On this special day, we honor veteran Lieutenant Colonel Michael Strobl, our military parents, siblings and friends, and all those who served.
Odds are you don't know the name Michael Strobl. But you may have heard of the essay he wrote, A Marine's Journey Home, which was subsequently turned into the moving film Taking Chance. Occasionally, there are "reality" stories that should be told. This was one of them.
Wrote Strobl: "I didn't know how to express my sympathy for their loss and my gratitude for their sacrifice. Now, however, they were repeatedly thanking me for bringing their son home and for my service. I was humbled beyond words. I told them that I had some of his things and asked if we could find a quiet place. The five of us ended up in what appeared to be a computer lab -- not what I had envisioned for this occasion.
After we had arranged five chairs around a small table, I told them about our trip. I told them how, at every step, Chance was treated with respect, dignity, and honor. I told them about the staff at Dover and all the folks at Northwest Airlines. I tried to convey how the entire nation -- from Dover to Philadelphia to Minneapolis to Billings and Riverton -- expressed grief and sympathy over their loss."
Taking Chance is available around the web including on Netflix, Amazon, and HBOgo.
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 400 of 1245 Newer› Newest»TLC stinks said... 192
I tend to agree with you that Kate didn't cook the meal or take the picture. If you look at the picture, the paper is folded up so perfectly to show the J/K. The picture looked so posed. The J/K may possibly be the logo of Katherine's business. To compare-look at this picture that Kate tweeted on Sept. 7, 2012. Big difference.
Kate Gosselin@Kateplusmy8
http://img.ly/n2D5 Look @deannatweeting I made my OWN 'fish in paper' and whatever I did (a little of this/that) it is A-MAZING! :)
Sept.7 picture--http://img.ly/n2D5
Nov.11 picture--http://img.ly/pD1N
I also noticed that none of her tweeties were clamoring for the recipe like they usually do, and nobody starting asking her about a cookbook again. Actually, not too many even commented on her picture.
My daughter is in public school in Chester County. she has never had off for Veteran's Day. I'm sure of it because it is her birthday and I always have off but she does not.
She makes me nauseous.
kateplusmy8
Nothing better than sending my kids off 2school w a heart full of love(from my hugs&kisses)& a lunch packed w their favorite homemade food!
capecodmama said... 196
Hey Aggiemom...Aggies jumped from #15 to #9 in the AP poll out today. 'Bama dropped to #4. Gotta say it: Go Aggies!
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Thanks for the shoutout! It was the talk at our breakfast table this morning.
WHOOP!!
:)
speaking of breakfast, I made pancakes from scratch this morning, and not one of my three kids at home told me I was wonderful. (maybe 'cuz the pancakes weren't organic?) ..well, I did give them syrup with splenda, that should count for something!
hmmph!
I've gone from nausea to hysteria!
kateplusmy8
RT @LifeTools: 5 Ways to Happiness : 1. Don't Hate 2. Don't Worry 3. Live Simply 4. Expect Less 5. Give More
Wowser said...
Admin...I saw the reflection in the plate. She definitely had someone there cooking.
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It's a reflection, but a reflection of what? I don't see any identifiable shapes, certainly nothing I could say positively is a person.
This Post is about Veterans. In your hatred of the Gosselins can you, for one day, talk about the Military. Those who have served, those who serve today and those who are trying to adjust to being back home, many with loss of limbs, loss of brain ability, unable to recognize their children, their husbands, wives.
Why can't you post a web site where you can all help with those home made cookies, the left over candy from Halloween that can be put in a box and sent to a soldier, us APO, San Francisco, CA or the Navy, Marines, use FPO, San Franciso, CA or a base name like Outpost Keating in Afganistan. Look it all up if you want to do something. There are lists of what is needed, can be used.
Just one day, or 12 hrs talk about the Military, the cadets at every Military college. Do something for someone in uniform, PLEASE, PLEASE.
A newspaper from your area, a magazine, paperback book, crossword puzzles, suduko. Occupy their minds when they are not standing guard for us.
PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE DO SOMETHING FOR THE MILITARY AND THE MILITARY FAMILIES, PLEASE.
Tweedle: it's a reflection of a woman with a white coat on and she looks African American...her shirt looked like a darker color like red. I expanded the picture on my ipad
To those who serve - thank you.
To those with Children who serve - thank you.
To those who have lost their lives - thank you.
To send care packages, cards, etc to currently serving troops here is a good start:
http://www.military.com/spouse/military-life/military-resources/how-to-support-our-troops.html
To Kate the idiot: ugh.
Veterans Day at 7 ~ Most of us celebrate(d) our veterans in meaningful, substantive ways, here and elsewhere. But I tend to agree that we'd honor the Veterans in talking about Kate, etc. on a wholly different entry.
Admin ~ Another post?
Poisson en Papillote... We've seen Kate's cooking. If she made it, it'd be Poison en Papillote, LOL.
Kate's sickening morning tweet is to prove again she is a wonderful loved mother (not that she loves them) to override the Kendra show & comments IMO.
She is so narcissistic. Yuk to all her Yums.
Jane said... 5
I've gone from nausea to hysteria!
kateplusmy8
RT @LifeTools: 5 Ways to Happiness : 1. Don't Hate 2. Don't Worry 3. Live Simply 4. Expect Less 5. Give More
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Here let me fix this for you:
RT @LifeTools: 5 Ways to Happiness : 1.Always Hate 2. Don't Worry about anyone but you 3. Live lavishly but lie about how you live Simply 4. Expect free stuff from any person or business 5. Give Nothing
kateplusmy8
RT @LifeTools: 5 Ways to Happiness : 1. Don't Hate 2. Don't Worry 3. Live Simply 4. Expect Less 5. Give More
Of course, Kate wasn't referring to herself by this retweet. When I first saw it, the first thing that came to mind was that it was a subtle dig at Liz and Jon.
Buttercup said... 13
Jane said... 5
I've gone from nausea to hysteria!
kateplusmy8
RT @LifeTools: 5 Ways to Happiness : 1. Don't Hate 2. Don't Worry 3. Live Simply 4. Expect Less 5. Give More
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Here let me fix this for you:
RT @LifeTools: 5 Ways to Happiness : 1.Always Hate 2. Don't Worry about anyone but you 3. Live lavishly but lie about how you live Simply 4. Expect free stuff from any person or business 5. Give Nothing
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Ahhhh, much better and certainly more truthful. Thanks, buttercup!
Kate tweeted dinner with friends and showed the picture of the full plate. Exactly one hour later she said everything was quiet and she was settling down with a book. Her friends surely did not stay long for their visit. I know when I have friends over we always sit at the table drinking wine, talking and laughing. Then end up with coffee and dessert, all this could easily take 2-3 hours. I think the children are not there, they're with Jon and the other person (her visitors) was Steve.
I don't think the initials on the paper is J/K I think it is KK (Katherine's Katering) Just picture one of the K's is backwards. So Êžk could be what we are really seeing......
Did anyone catch this on twitter? Non-fans believe Kate was using a fake account to bitch out a non-fan
KewlPug @SuzeW718
@Crayola1231 <----- is @kateplusmy8 Got caught tweeting to a hater to "stay out of her kids' business" @radar_online @perezhilton
If you want to see @Crayola1231's account:
www.twitiq.com/crayola1231
kateplusmy8
Nothing better than sending my kids off 2school w a heart full of love(from my hugs&kisses)& a lunch packed w their favorite homemade food!
We've seen pictures of their lunches. What does she consider "homemade" food? She slapped together a sandwich from a leftover meal? Slice up some veggies or fruit? Made her own crunchy thingies and squeezed her own juice? Ain't she just the SUPERMOM?
Now she's talking about food again--trying to pique interest in a cookbook again?
By the way, the retweet from LifeTools was made at 6:48am-wouldn't she be busy getting the kids off to school? Yet instead she has time to look for something appropriate to retweet?
Bluebird said... 16
Kate tweeted dinner with friends and showed the picture of the full plate. Exactly one hour later she said everything was quiet and she was settling down with a book.
More like almost two hours.
Dinner with friends... Kate's 'fish (and vegetables) in paper' and mahogany cranberry almond rice... Yum! 19:31
All is quiet here following a lovely dinner&visit... I'm doing a little reading then off to sleep- I'd say I earned a long nights rest!:)GN! 21:17
She likes to retweet @LifeTools, so here's one for her:
Life Tools@LifeTools
Live without pretending, love without depending, listen without defending, speak without offending.
Maybe the J/K signifies that it was a doggie bag from F&O and the prep was taking it out of the freezer. A lot of people still refer to her as J/K mainly because she can't make a public statement without including him and the 8. Why was she the only one to get a nice plate. The other plate is empty and appears to be plastic. The one on the other side just looks like a gob of paper wadded up on it. It is amazing that someone lies to such an extent and depth that one literally cannot believe a word that she says. I hate when she professes her love for her kids and pats herself on the back like that last tweet. From her journal that appears to be her MO when she has been particularly cruel to them. I can't imagine going through life having to publicly reassure one's self that she does indeed love her kids and that they force her to be mean to them by their actions and "homemade" food makes it all better. In my book anything made at home is in fact home made.
Why are they going to school on a national holiday? I bet Kate forgot its a holiday and just left them stranded in the parking lot.
As far as her tweet? Another wow.
1. She hares Jon
2. She worries about Liz's sweet do
3. She lives the opposite of simple
4. She expects EVERYTHING
5. Shyer gives NOTHING
Ok, in Robert's book Kate's personal chef is "Katherine", but I have not found a last name.
Veteran's Day said... 7
This Post is about Veterans. In your hatred of the Gosselins can you, for one day, talk about the Military. Those who have served, those who serve today and those who are trying to adjust to being back home, many with loss of limbs, loss of brain ability, unable to recognize their children, their husbands, wives.
Why can't you post a web site where you can all help with those home made cookies, the left over candy from Halloween that can be put in a box and sent to a soldier, us APO, San Francisco, CA or the Navy, Marines, use FPO, San Franciso, CA or a base name like Outpost Keating in Afganistan. Look it all up if you want to do something. There are lists of what is needed, can be used.
Just one day, or 12 hrs talk about the Military, the cadets at every Military college. Do something for someone in uniform, PLEASE, PLEASE.
A newspaper from your area, a magazine, paperback book, crossword puzzles, suduko. Occupy their minds when they are not standing guard for us.
PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE DO SOMETHING FOR THE MILITARY AND THE MILITARY FAMILIES, PLEASE.
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There was a lot of talk on this thread (and the previous one) about Veterans. A few of us even changed our avatars to pics of ourselves, or loved ones, in uniform, for the occasion. I think it was sweet of Admin to even have a thread just for the topic. It wasnt ignored. And like all topics here, it gets mixed up in all things Kate, plus OT posts. I found no harm in it. I am actually looking forward to the next thread- I just know a Turkey Day/Holiday thread must be coming.... it just has to be ;) Plus we have Diane Downs to discuss now (I really need to watch that 20/20 segment).
Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...20
I'm sorry, I did miscalculate, but still it seems to me a short time to have with friends sitting around a dinner table.
I don't think Kate reads as much as she tells us, she most likely is watching TV with the rest of her boxed wine.
I don't know about the initials, what they could mean, but why, if you're cooking a meal at home, would you put any initials on the paper in the first place?
Bluebird said... 26
Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...20
I'm sorry, I did miscalculate, but still it seems to me a short time to have with friends sitting around a dinner table.
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It's certainly a short time for me when having guests over or visiting others. But what would there be to talk about with Kate? She's certainly limited in what she talks about...ME, MY8, What I Do For MY8.
I'm beginning to think that the dinner guest(s) was Deanna and maybe a friend. Deanna picked up the fish in paper on her way.
There is a catering company called JK Beatrice Catering. I wonder if her "friends" either brought food with them or she had it catered.
Kate never mentioned reading a book. She just said she was doing a little reading. Could be catching up on twitter or perhaps here. Maybe just checking to see if she was mentioned anywhere today.
Nothing better than sending my kids off 2school w a heart full of love(from my hugs&kisses)& a lunch packed w their favorite homemade food!
Something that really bothers me about that tweet. Why isn't she the one that is feeling the heart full of love from the hugs and kisses her children gave her? Times 8 of course.
Just one day, or 12 hrs talk about the Military, the cadets at every Military college. Do something for someone in uniform, PLEASE, PLEASE.
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We've talked about the military tons and tons of people here have done a lot to help people in uniform. But this is a Gosselin blog not a military blog. That's not my niche but there are tons of resources out there where you ca talk about the military all day every day all year. Type in google and have at it. This isn't the one stop shop for EVERYTHING on the internet for heaven sake and I don't like the implication that because something isn't discussed all the time here, it's not being discussed elsewhere.
Maybe she's reading abut Diane Downs having seen it mentioned here!
Or maybe she still has not finished 50 Shades...
I wouldn't put it past Kate to put those initials on there herself, just to get everyone talking about it.
Tweetle--I also think that one of her guests was Deanna, and that she picked up dinner on the way to Kate's house. It's been awhile since Kate's been to NYC, and she probably was craving her fish in paper. Her tweet only said "Kate's fish", which means it was what she was eating, not that she made it. Kate's dinner prep was probably the side of rice.
Maybe Kate's dinner prep was setting the table. I find it hard to believe with all her many lists of things to do yesterday that she had time to prepare a meal. (snark)
Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said... 27
I don't know about the initials, what they could mean, but why, if you're cooking a meal at home, would you put any initials on the paper in the first place?
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Just a guess, but maybe each person had different veggie mix, so each fish in paper had to be marked. I know, it is a far stretch, but you never know. If I had a persona chef (I am laughing writing those words) then I also would have them tailor dishes to my guests liking...that they would choose, off a menu. ROFL!!! Yes, cuz that's how real people live :)
buttercup...13 My sediments exactly. You said what I was thinking. Kate hates on Jon everyday, she worries that her "stah" is fading, she lives in excess, expects more and definitely gives less.
kateplusmy8
Nothing better than sending my kids off 2school w a heart full of love(from my hugs&kisses)& a lunch packed w their favorite homemade food!
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She sounds like an idiot.
Also what about those moms who work and have to send their kids off to school with lunch money instead, or something quick like lunchables or a frozen burrito. There's this weird undertone with her that homemade means you love your kids "more" and yet I don't think she understands how it comes across whatsoever to the real working moms lobby.
Also I didn't realize throwing a yogurt and crunchy things and a sandwich into a lunchbox deserves the label homemade.
Can I ask what the big deal is with her and the fish in paper? What am I missing? This is nothing new, people have been doing that forever. It's no different than cooking anything else in parchment paper or aluminum foil. We've been doing that forever - I didn't realize we were so trendy out here is Amish world, lol.
Salute to all veterans out there. Although I'm off to work, I'm thankful that my veteran spouse gets the day off. Deserves it. I wish every veteran who is working had the day off. Always bothered me that the ones who are off are usually not the ones who earned it.
@ Greedy Gosselins
OMG, I just read the comment about your ex! I dont know what to say! what a mess.
GG, I am not trying to take anything away from your situation, but what you have shared helps me realize that lots of folks are divorced, even though Kate thinks she is the only one, and lots of folks have trouble getting along smoothly with their ex's. Kate's histrionics are always over the top and so attention seeking. We all have stories to tell, and non of us want headlines in the news about it or a media tour to dab a dry eye over it.
Good luck with it all, GG. (May I call you GG? If not, I apologize...)
GG, I am not trying to take anything away from your situation, but what you have shared helps me realize that lots of folks are divorced, even though Kate thinks she is the only one, and lots of folks have trouble getting along smoothly with their ex's.
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Yes, such a good point. Kate thinks she's special because she has issues with her ex. No one has it as bad as her. If only you were in her shoes you would understand why she rolled her window up on Liz.
It looks like Kate's personal chef's name is Katherine Shwartz
By the way, Katherine - that dinner you prepared for Kate and guests? looks delicious! ;)
This is an exchange between Kate and her personal chef. You know, the one that Kate says doesn’t exist.
Sent from my (formerly) PINK iphone
On Dec 30, 2008, at 9: 09 PM, katherine@ xxxxxxxx.com wrote:
I'll call you when I get near... see you tomorrow!
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Subject: Re: Tomorrow Delivery
From: Kate Gosselin < sixymomma@ comcast.net > Date: Tue, December 30, 2008 5: 08 pm
To: Katherine Shwartz < katherine@ xxxxxxxx.com > Ok. Please call when you are near. Please pull and load the fridge in the little room to the right as you walk on those double doors. Beware: two German shep puppies now live in our basement!!!! :) Shoka and Nala will greet you lovingly! I didn't mean to, but I so love them! Anyway, your dishes are in that room by the fridge you will be using... (the old subzero). Thanks and see you tomorrow!
Kate
Hoffman, Robert (2012-09-27). KATE GOSSELIN: HOW SHE FOOLED THE WORLD (Kindle Locations 19887-19911). . Kindle Edition.
Formerly Duped...33 Speaking of 50 Shades...There is a woman in Britain who is divorcing her husband because she read 50 Shades and he won't do any of the things in it. When I lived in Scotland you had to be separated for two years before you could file for divorce. Maybe one of them will change their minds in that time. What a stupid reason to divorce someone.
I asked my son if he went to school with a "heart full of love" when I hugged and/or kissed him at the bus stop and he replied "No, I went to school with a heart full of I hope none of the kids saw that!". He also preferred to buy his lunch because that's what most of his friends did. Most kids don't care if it's homemade and organic. They care about fitting in with their peers and they don't want to be embarrassed by PDAs from their mom at the bus stop.
I don't get along with my ex. In fact, we are sorta in hiding from him right now.
I SHOULD be a major man-haters but I'm not.
So Kate went from cooking this?
http://img.ly/mxdQ
And this.
http://img.ly/n2D5
To cooking this?
http://img.ly/pD1N
Yeah I don't think so I can't see that with my chef brain.
At 6:47am, Kate retweeted a tweet from LifeTools. At 7:07am, she retweeted a tweet from Runnersworld, then at 7:09am she tweeted about sending the kids off to school.
She always says how busy, busy, busy her mornings are getting the kids off to school. Yet, she has time to check her twitter feed looking for things to retweet, and then has time to retweet them.
If I was getting 8 kids off to school, looking at my twitter account so early in the morning would be the last of my priorities.
Tweeted by Deanna Sunday morning:
Deanna Bell @deannatweeting
The plus side of a 4am call time today? Ordering cheesecake last night to eat as breakfast because my wakeup was too early for room service.
Thanks 4 all the b-days wishes you guys.
LOL Chef great find especially the second one, Kate's REAL fish in paper. All haphazard, wrinkly, flakey and crumbly, thrown together with two left thumbs. I'm sure it tastes fine but it's not a professional chef.
Then the real chef in paper--beautiful, intact, smooth--labeled J/K so Katherine knew that batch went to Jon and Kate's house. Maybe it was raw in the paper with instructions to throw in the oven at 350 for 25 minutes.
Is three cars for ONE person part of "living simply"? Oh, color me surprised!
Why are they going to school on a national holiday? I bet Kate forgot its a holiday and just left them stranded in the parking lot.
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The holiday was yesterday. According to the calendar the school is in session. I think it's a shame schools aren't taking off a day for Veteran's Day but this isn't unusual. I even saw they have Wednesday off before Thanksgiving. Why not swap that day out and take Veteran's Day instead?
Parents are usually busy anyway with work and/or Thanksgiving prep on Wednesday and having young kids out of school can be more of a burden than a help.
Happy Veteran's Day from a widow, mother, mother-in-law, daughter and sister of veterans.
And on a side note, there are no cadets at the United States Naval Academy, they are midshipmen.
Here's a quote for Kate.
"Liars gonna lie, people dont change. You just get to know them better"
I also noticed that none of her tweeties were clamoring for the recipe like they usually do, and nobody starting asking her about a cookbook again. Actually, not too many even commented on her picture.
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That's kind of them. They don't want to paint her into a corner where she has to lie more. Better to just quietly ignore this one.
OR this...
"
I realized some people never change...Once a liar, always a liar..."
Dear Pathetic, pathetic Kate, that you think it's more important to try and convince a bunch of strangers that you really DO love your children (i.e. fake hugs and X's), then to actually SPEND time with them, really loving them, and making sure they become happy compassionate loving people, just WOW.
BUT, You can't FORCE compassion...it comes from the heart. So I guess, that's another thing Jon will have teach them.... (all you seem to be able to teach is how to be a neurotic demanding bimbo).
No one else to blame either. You have created yourself. You have created your life. So if you are now lonely, and miserable, guess who's fault that is?? HINT: NOOOOO, it's not Jon's fault. He is just another of your victims. You tried to make him as miserable as you always are but, he won. He got away. AND his kids LOVE him.
Quit playing the barbie doll, quit going after married men, sell the big house, get off of TV, get therapy before you completely destroy your boys...and maybe you can begin making amends.
I don't think the kids were home with her last night nor this a.m.
That spelling of Shwartz is odd. Can't find anything.
Penny lol glad to hear you are not a man-hater.
I think few women don't have some kind of breakup in their past life that didn't go well, be it a marriage, a fiancé or just a boyfriend. Why a few of us emerge as flesh eating man eaters is bizarre to me. I think most women can compartmentalize that there are bad apples in every bushel, but it doesn't mean the entire bushel should be tossed out.
Dear Kate, one more thing, quit with the platitudes. They are meaningless. You are so unoriginal.
Wiki:
A platitude is a trite, meaningless, biased, or prosaic statement, often presented as if it were significant and original. The word derives from plat, the French word for "flat." Whether any given statement is considered to have meaning is highly subjective, so platitude is often—but not always—used as a pejorative term to describe seemingly profound statements that a certain person views as unoriginal or shallow. Examples of statements which could be considered platitudes could be "The power of friendship", "Go with the flow", "Everything happens for a reason", "It is what it is!", "If it's meant to be, it's meant to be", and "We need to do what we can do."
NJGal 44, You brought back a funny memory. My DS was perfectly fine with giving a goodbye kiss when he was in PreSchool and then fast forward a couple of years and I would pull up to drop off, he would get out, come around to my window (which was rolled down), look around to see if anyone was around who could see and if not give me a peck on the cheek. If anyone was around he wouldn't do it, but rather would just say goodbye. I never let on that I noticed, but thought it was cute just the same.
Can I ask what the big deal is with her and the fish in paper? What am I missing? This is nothing new, people have been doing that forever. It's no different than cooking anything else in parchment paper or aluminum foil. We've been doing that forever - I didn't realize we were so trendy out here is Amish world, lol.
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It's new to Kate I guess? I've been doing the steam bags (though I usually use foil, less chance of a mess, more secure) since I first learned to cook. Jamie Oliver taught me--via TV that is!
I don't do them as much anymore but they are a good single girl or guy thing or when you are home alone for the evening. You can prepare them in advance and stick them in the fridge then just pop in the oven when you are ready to eat. This is good for leaving behind for hapless husbands to make sure they don't eat PB and J instead. I like how you can make each batch taste however you want--adding lemon, garlic, maybe some wine, or making it spicy, or adding a bunch of herbs. Whatever you fancy that night.
If Kate had actually made that plate of food herself she would have said so at least ten times. When has she ever passed up a chance to brag about anything she's done? Not only that but she never refers to herself in third person. Even Gladys Kravitz said it was a fig and olive type dinner, but didn't question if Kate had prepared it all by herself. She knows her Katie well enough to not question her on certain things or she'll get ignored.
f I was getting 8 kids off to school, looking at my twitter account so early in the morning would be the last of my priorities.
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Yea, but we mere minions are doing it on our own..sniff. Kate has HELP and lots of it. For all we know, the help rounds up the kids, does the hair. Kate's idea of breakfast (gee, haven't seen a supermomof8 breakfast pic lately!) is probably throwing 8 bowls and spoons on the table the night before. While the help gets the kids rounded up and into the van, Kate sits on her leather couch tweeting.
As far as everyone wanting her to downsize...that would not fly with Kate! She'd blame the kids for it, and the abuse would continue. She needs to stay away from those kids as much as possible. At least they are old enough they can hit back. They have been treated as a pack all their life, and hopefully that pack mentality will rear its ugly head and put Kate in check.
Her dinner last night? nah, she didn't make that. She only knows how to make slop. That's an idea! She could work for big brother and make slop!
Frankly that meal, while yes photographed a lot better than her usual, did not impress me. Steamed fish & veggies, glop of black rice - KG did not cook that, no way. We have seen how she folds paper. From the comments on her posting, no one else is impressed either.
As for homemade lunches, seriously? The world has seen her lunches - amazing for their heavy use of prepacked snacky things. Wait, she and her bff girls baked last week - the frozen cookie, that's homemade. Tool
She must not have had all eight this morning or she would have tweeted 'sending my 8 kids off 2school' or 'I packed lunches X8 and gave kisses and hugs X8'.
Regarding the separate posts issue, in thinking on this more, I remembered I have tried to do separate posts before, it was a long time ago I believe during the series when there would be an episode discussion thread but another thread for Kate doing something up to no good.
Too many people get confused, people don't follow directions, people don't use the posts for what they are supposed to be used for. I even have to tell people when there is a new post and bring you all on over together. I can't imagine trying to get people organized into more than two posts, the blog has just become too big at that. Sort of like trying to shout at a room of 300 people where to go without a mic, doesn't work! The problem is blogs in this format are not set up to make multiple posts something easy to navigate. I'm sure there is a way to put them side by side, however that would take up a lot of space.
If the majority of posters here showed they could toggle back and forth between multiple posts with ease, I would do it but that's not the case--even I myself prefer not to have to read more than one post. I'd rather just be in one, and if there are many different things being discussed I can scroll by the ones I'm not interested in. This is a blog, not a forum.
Is she on defense mode again? Sounds like rainbows and unicorn my life is so great tweets again.
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Sadly, I think in her twisted head she actually thinks she "won" her little twitter war with Liz, the one that she started all by her little self instead of picking up the phone and dealing with the issue like an adult.
I also think she is still on a high from her big break back into TV. She actually thinks this was a great stepping stone.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 52
Why are they going to school on a national holiday? I bet Kate forgot its a holiday and just left them stranded in the parking lot.
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The holiday was yesterday. According to the calendar the school is in session. I think it's a shame schools aren't taking off a day for Veteran's Day but this isn't unusual. I even saw they have Wednesday off before Thanksgiving. Why not swap that day out and take Veteran's Day instead?
Parents are usually busy anyway with work and/or Thanksgiving prep on Wednesday and having young kids out of school can be more of a burden than a help.
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You are not an educator. Many schools close the day before Thanksgiving because absenteeism is high as many families travel the day before the holiday.
I wonder about Kate needed her love for kids validated externally. My ex was somewhat similar w/his kid. He couldn't ever do anything with her alone, like go to the beach, or Disneyland, or bowling. He always- and I mean ALWAYS, had to have other people come along and - his words- 'enjoy her company'. Why couldn't he enjoy her company, alone- dad and daughter? Why can't Kate just love her kids w/o getting attention for it? What is with this external validation? I dont get it.
I thought the dinner looked good- I think the sheeple weren't asking for the recipe because it was too far from their regular fare of twinkies, tv dinners and take out fast food :)
You are not an educator. Many schools close the day before Thanksgiving because absenteeism is high as many families travel the day before the holiday.
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Whoa, why the condescending, You are not an educator?? So being an educator makes you an expert on what days off to select? LOL.
I guess it's a matter of picking a travel day off versus picking a day for children to understand and honor veterans. There is value in BOTH days. Some schools do it some day the others another. I'm not sure what being an educator has to do with it whatsoever.
My kids are off today and the entire week of Thanksgiving. Public school.
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I wouldn't put it past Kate to put those initials on there herself, just to get everyone talking about it.
Tweetle--I also think that one of her guests was Deanna, and that she picked up dinner on the way to Kate's house. It's been awhile since Kate's been to NYC, and she probably was craving her fish in paper. Her tweet only said "Kate's fish", which means it was what she was eating, not that she made it. Kate's dinner prep was probably the side of rice.
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On Friday she tweeted about 'car service' glogging up her driveway, which could mean she had hired a car and driver to take her to NYC to get her hair done. After the outrage over her HAPPYHAPPINESS that the salon was back open after the storm, she probably decided not to tweet that she was going for her hair Friday. She may have picked up the meal when she was there Friday.
Or Katherine put the initials on the paper to indicate it was specifically Kate's fish bundle, prepared to HER 'masterminding'. Maybe the "J" was a guest, who ordered her's the same as Kate's? If Kate made that herself, which she 100% did not, why would she be writing on the paper? She wouldnt, besides she has 13 year old little girly handwriting.
Her tweet about 'dinner prep' meant barking orders at someone, or taking a shower, or whatever. Not chopping vegetables and cleaning fresh fish.
admin said - Too many people get confused, people don't follow directions, people don't use the posts for what they are supposed to be used for. I even have to tell people when there is a new post and bring you all on over together.
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Exactly. I sometimes read over at the other blog, and that's the way it's organized there. Too much trouble to switch back and forth, rules state that anything that doesn't belong in that thread doesn't get posted, but nevertheless, it still does, and it's one big jumbled mess.
I wonder about Kate needed her love for kids validated externally. My ex was somewhat similar w/his kid
UGH- What I meant to type was "I wonder about Kate needing" sheesh I think my fingers have a mind of their own!
Non fans on Twitter are saying that is an old photo from the Jon and Kate days because of the J/K written on the paper and that Kate found and posted as a new one. I do find it interesting that with all our recent talk about cranberries the rice is "mahogany cranberry almond rice".
Rainbows yes good example. It also creates a lot of extra work for the mods and me trying to keep everyone organized.
I think this blog is in that awkward spot where it's way too big for separate posts (if it were a group of 50 you could get people organized), and yet, way too small for separate posts (if it were a group of 5,000 you would have to divide people up or it would get insane).
Butterfly,
I clicked on your link to see your avatar more closely and now I'm LOLing after reading your "About Me" info. Love it!
Auntie Ann said - Even Gladys Kravitz said it was a fig and olive type dinner, but didn't question if Kate had prepared it all by herself. She knows her Katie well enough to not question her on certain things or she'll get ignored.
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Gladys was too busy prying. She wanted to know who the dinner guests were, and why Deanna was so quiet. She figured since Deanna wasn't tweeting, she was sharing some best friends moments with Kate, and Gladys wanted confirmation.
Penny said...
I don't get along with my ex. In fact, we are sorta in hiding from him right now.
I SHOULD be a major man-haters but I'm not.
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I'm sorry. :-(
Mine still makes me shake in fear, just the sight of him or especially the sound of his voice. And we have been divorced 26 years. But for the most part, he doesnt even cross my mind for months at a time.
Yes kart, because you hug and kiss them they know you love them.
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Narcissists have a hard time understanding true love and affection, however, what they do see on the movies and TV is a lot of hugging and kissing. So monkey see monkey do, they imitate what they see and perceive "love" to be, and then call this "love."
I think the best description of love is actually from the Bible, the famous "love is patient, love is kind" verse: Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres. 8 Love never fails.
No where does it mention, love is hugs and kisses. Does Kate comprehend love on this level? I haven't really seen evidence of that at all.
Of course Kate didn't make that paper fish dish. If she'd own up to it, give credit to the chef who did make it and mention that it was a special occasion dinner, she'd score points with fans and non-fans alike. I keep thinking I can't like her any less than I do and yet the downward spiral continues!
NYC and suburban schools are closed today. We've also been told that because we were in a state of emergency, the missed days don't have to be made up. There are still over 125,000 without power and many schools remain closed.
Unless my internet is glitchy, Robert Hoffman deleted all the posts on his blog. I wonder what she did to him?
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No where does it mention, love is hugs and kisses. Does Kate comprehend love on this level? I haven't really seen evidence of that at all
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The hugs and kisses does sound like the way a Middle School or Jr. High girl would define it, but not a mature adult. I guess mature is the operative word.
Dwindle, we've been divorced over 9 years and I'm looking forward to the day he doesn't cross my mind. I even dream about him! Yes, his voice, his face, I even freak-out if a friend uses his name (also a noun) in WWF.
It's a great feeling knowing he won't be "stopping by" anymore.
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Unless my internet is glitchy, Robert Hoffman deleted all the posts on his blog. I wonder what she did to him?
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Wow! You're right, they are gone! Hmm, I wonder what is going on?
Catherine--I check Gosselin Book also, and all the posts are gone. They WERE there earlier this morning around 10am, because I checked the site then.
OT-
About sending items to troops-
this article lists the top 10 items requested by forward deployed troops- and to brag a little, the item that I have mentioned here to you ladies is on the list- Baby wipes!! LOL
http://takepart.msn.com/veterans/?section=gallery_3>1=34153#section=gallery_3
The group is Troops Direct if you want to google them. Also on the list is soap, toothpaste, socks, protein powder, gun lubricant (yep), eye protection (yep!) and GPS units (that seems odd).
Christmas is coming- I say load up on soap, socks, and baby wipes and send those care packages!! Maybe deodorant, too- guys are pretty stinky ;)
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How strange! I have not read the book but there must be something in it the husband might do!?!
RH's posts are gone?
Could that explain Kate's rainbow fart tweets? She must be on cloud 9 if she had a hand in that.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 71
You are not an educator. Many schools close the day before Thanksgiving because absenteeism is high as many families travel the day before the holiday.
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Whoa, why the condescending, You are not an educator?? So being an educator makes you an expert on what days off to select? LOL.
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Yes, actually, educators are experts in this area as they factor things into the equation that others don't consider. If you want decision-making authority over what days your children have off of school, you can home school them.
Someone mentioned Saving Private Ryan and I think that's one of the best films about war to ever be made.
I love how the men taking part in the mission for a lot of it had the attitude, this is B-S why are we doing this, saving just one man when we could be out there saving 100's??? But, they did it. Because their country asked them to save one of them, and even if it was B-S, they did what was asked of them.
Yep, Robert's blog is empty.
Closed for a Reason said... 91
Yes, actually, educators are experts in this area as they factor things into the equation that others don't consider. If you want decision-making authority over what days your children have off of school, you can home school them.
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Actually if I want to make the decision to keep my kid home on a certain day- and it's a school day- I do- ;)
No teacher permission required.
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Gladys was too busy prying. She wanted to know who the dinner guests were, and why Deanna was so quiet. She figured since Deanna wasn't tweeting, she was sharing some best friends moments with Kate, and Gladys wanted confirmation.
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Her tweets are so pathetic. She was still trying to eek out information last night after Kate had put the lights out.
*Whoops...I was jabberin here & U already did ur GN! :( Well, I think U ALWAYS earn & deserve a long nite's rest! :)*
Kate will never be able to shake her unless she blocks her, which I doubt she'll do anytime soon.
Closed, shouldn't Kate be homeschooling? She takes her kids out of school whenever she feels like it!?
Ah the little minx, so clever. Car service, as in my limo has arrived to take me to NYC for hair frying, maybe a little pickup from F&O to reheat on Sunday. Damn that car servce for cloggng the driveway while the minions arive to work.
She does think she's clever with words, dinner prep = heating up something someone else cooked. My guess is that the kids were not home for dinner last night.
And I agree that the biotch is riding high on what she THINKS are victories in her world - Liz shutting down twitter, her 'tv show', maybe even Robert's siffeing his blog. She is really crazee. I cannot fathom how she thinks this one-off, unsold tv pilot is going to pay off in the media world.
Closed for a Reason I have no idea why you are so angry and bitter or why you are picking a fight over something so silly. None.
Not sure where you live but it's lovely if a school wants to give lots of days off for Thanksgiving trips and it's lovely if families can take them, but that's not the reality for most people. Many families will be lucky to afford to travel two hours to Grandma's this year. Schools may be out of touch a bit there.
There are more than one opinion about what holidays are best to take off, there is no "right" answer, as evidenced by schools choosing to take Veteran's Day. What makes you anymore of an expert about what holidays are best to take off than the experts at a school that DID choose to take Veteran's day off? I'm confused. Not to mention, what is right for the demographic at your school may not be right at all for another, so.
I was an educator (K/1 teacher) before staying home with my kids and I can say that different schools, private or public, do it different ways. At the public level it seems to have more to do with the compromises between the teacher's union and the district and what the teachers want.
For example, in my sister's district, they always take the day after Halloween off instead of Veterans Day. In mine, we get Veteran's Day. Also, she works the day before Thanksgiving but in our district it's a half day.
There really is no rhyme or reason.
Or, maybe Roberts re-launch of the book is near???
Sillimom are you an expert? :) What a silly fight that Closed has picked. Since every school does it differently it's rather arrogant to suggest she knows best. Butterfly, I would think being the parent of your child makes you an "expert" on what days are best to take off, but who am I to say who is an expert.
I can't stand when some educators (thankfully, not most) have this arrogant "I know best for my school" attitude. I don't recall ever getting any surveys or formal polling about what I'm doing for Thanksgiving and whether the school should allow us days off and which ones. How the heck do they know who is going on vacation and how many are going? School vacation days are set usually YEARS in advance, sometimes five years or more, so I don't buy that it's really all about the current demographics because that is an evolving thing too. Decisions are just made and not everyone will be happy, that's how it goes. I appreciate teachers that are humble and open to an evolving process with lots of input from others.
Yes, actually, educators are experts in this area as they factor things into the equation that others don't consider. If you want decision-making authority over what days your children have off of school, you can home school them.
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In our school district, parents are asked for input in regard to the school schedule. We also have one of the top ten school districts in the state. Hmm...go figure.
I hope you aren't in my kid's school district. You sound bitter.
Have a gr8t day!
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Aggie the shackles of teacher unions can spark a lot of bitterness.
Oops did I say that out loud? Ignore me! :)
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Closed for a Reason said... 91
Yes, actually, educators are experts in this area as they factor things into the equation that others don't consider. If you want decision-making authority over what days your children have off of school, you can home school them.
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Actually if I want to make the decision to keep my kid home on a certain day- and it's a school day- I do- ;)
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Actually where I live if you make that decision too many times you'll be facing the School Attendance Review Board as we have compulsory education laws.
Kate for some reason seems to equate people just going away because they've HAD it with her as some kind of moral victory. It's weird. No, Kate, no victory. They've just had it with you.
Closed you sure are bitter. Wait a second, shouldn't you be at work? You said your school takes Thanksgiving not Veteran's Day didn't you? LOL! Get back to work!
Out here, we're still cozied up with breakfast in bed. We have it off.
Auntie Ann said - "Kate will never be able to shake her unless she blocks her, which I doubt she'll do anytime soon."
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If I were Kate, I'd be afraid to block her. Kate should never have given a shout-out to her on television. Gladys took this as a sign that she and Kate have a close relationship. "I will not be ignored" really applies here. The gates were opened, Gladys has escaped, and it's too late to muzzle her.
Closed said - "If you want decision-making authority over what days your children have off of school, you can home school them."
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Why would I have to home-school them? If I'm going on a trip that, because of travel arrangements, requires an extra day off, I contact the school and let them know, getting the homework assignment, if there is one.
I would think Kate would be sad for Robert's blog to be taken down - less attention for her. She cares not one whiff if the attention she receives is negative - it's all good for her.
If we are talking about schools, we are NOT discussing Kate, child abuse, animal neglect, exploiting children, lying all the time, spending g money frivolously, her hate for Jon and OBVIOUS jellusy of Liz, her mentally unbalanced fans or Robert's book of Kate's misdeeds IN HER OWN WORDS.
By being nasty, Closed knew we'd all respond and then, for a few minutes anyway, the queen of all things nasty won't be discussed.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 106
Closed you sure are bitter. Wait a second, shouldn't you be at work? You said your school takes Thanksgiving not Veteran's Day didn't you? LOL! Get back to work!
Out here, we're still cozied up with breakfast in bed. We have it off.
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I said nothing about "my" school. Perhaps you need to brush up on your reading comprehension on your day off. LOL!
So your school DOES have the day off? You didn't answer my question. So wait a minute, why are you an expert on day's off for Thanksgiving instead of Veteran's but your school is not an expert? So, you DO admit that all schools do it differently. Love it. The sheer arrogance.
Penny you are right we fell for it. Say something antagonistic steer the subject away from Kate's bad deeds. Kate still abuses little children. Kate still films and exploits little children. Kate lies.
Looked at dinner pic comparisons. Her fish dinner didn't look too bad and this one could have been made by her, IMO. Certainly that cranberry wild rice thing looks like something she'd make.
Since we're speculating, here are my thoughts:
1) The J/K could be KK with one K written backwards.
2) It could stand for Kate Kreider, although I don't think Kate would ever use her maiden name again. Not only is there no name recognition with it but I think she associates that name with a whole other person and life that she'd never want to go back to.
3) What looks like a crumpled piece of paper is another fish dish. You can see a veggie sticking up.
The other plate looks empty but could have food on it.
4) Why didn't the other guests get their plates inset into a larger silver plate? I guess that's only good enough for Kate?
5) Hey, maybe Kate should go on Worst Chefs in America with Ann Burrell as her teacher. I think Ann wouldn't put up with her cr*p.
Closed for a Reason said... 104
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Good luck on enforcing that. They tried with my mom and LOST. The school wants the money too badly from the child being enrolled. Thanks for playing.
Have a GR8 Day!!!
Admin,
You just reminded me of when I was 2nd grade and attending school in a LAUSD school, Culver city, and we had Jewish holidays off because so many kids in the school were that faith. I was so happy to have that many more days off!
Go Butterfly. Tee-hee. You know best for your kid and don't you let some expert educator try to tell you otherwise.
Happy Veterans Day. Thank you to all who served and serve still. I am the proud daughter of an Air Force veteran who later served as a Navy reservist during the late 50's and early 60's. My brother-in-law was also career Air Force and served in Desert Storm.
To all who have sacrificed - men, women, children, wives, husbands, and families - words cannot begin to ever express our gratitude.A military life is a difficult one, more than any civilian will ever realize.
Thank you.
Kate served the cranberry rice dish before- I think with a veggie patty when a 'friend' dropped by for an 'impormptu' lunch.I think it's from a package.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 111
So your school DOES have the day off? You didn't answer my question. So wait a minute, why are you an expert on day's off for Thanksgiving instead of Veteran's but your school is not an expert? So, you DO admit that all schools do it differently. Love it. The sheer arrogance.
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I am not obligated to answer your questions. I never stated that ALL schools take off the day before Thanksgiving. I never said that ALL schools SHOULD take off the day before Thanksgiving.
I don't know why you can't acknowledge that educators have a level of expertise when it comes to EDUCATION that you don't possess. Do you think a layperson knows the law as well as you do? Why such disrespect for educators?
I don't know why you can't acknowledge that educators have a level of expertise when it comes to EDUCATION that you don't possess. Do you think a layperson knows the law as well as you do? Why such disrespect for educators?
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I think educators have an expertise in EDUCATION. Last I checked, days off have to do with administration, not education, And no I don't think all educators have administrative expertise. Given that all schools do holidays differently, I am still not understanding why this arrogant expert attitude comes from, since this is not a matter of right and wrong, but of opinion.
I think parents know best if it's appropriate to take their children out. As for the dig about lawyers, I can advise my client what I think is best, but the decision is ultimately up to them. I can't do what they don't want me to do. In contrast, schools do what they damn well please even if parents object.
I don't know why you can't acknowledge that educators have a level of expertise when it comes to EDUCATION that you don't possess. Do you think a layperson knows the law as well as you do? Why such disrespect for educators?
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Closed, what a snotty attitude. I hope for the sake of students, you are NOT an educator! Yes, I know, I know. You never SAID you were an educator. You just went after admin because she isn't.
Narcissists have a hard time understanding true love and affection, however, what they do see on the movies and TV is a lot of hugging and kissing. So monkey see monkey do, they imitate what they see and perceive "love" to be, and then call this "love."
Flasback to the Mother's day episode when they're at brunch...remember the weird air kisses or whatever the hell that was, with her new boobs and talons/nails? Perfect example of trying to "imitate" what she thinks looks right. ALL WRONG, so awkward for the kids and for us watching.
Shit stirring Admin, walk away, just walk away LOL :)
Penny said...
Dwindle, we've been divorced over 9 years and I'm looking forward to the day he doesn't cross my mind. I even dream about him! Yes, his voice, his face, I even freak-out if a friend uses his name (also a noun) in WWF.
It's a great feeling knowing he won't be "stopping by" anymore.
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Aww, Penny, I STILL dream about mine too. Yuck. And it is never a good dream. You would think I would dream about my current HunnyBunny but nooooo - Dwindle dreams about the ex husband taking over her life again. Sigh.
I used to have horrid realistic nightmares that he was standing at the foot of my bed ready to hurt me and I would wake up terrified. I changed all the locks on the old house, put on chain locks, and got a new dog that didnt know him. And I slept better at night!
Here's praying you get there soon, hon. You are not alone - at all!
And thanks to Admin for allowing this kind of OT. Sometimes it's a godsend.
As a military family my son went to many different schools throughout the country (world) and I can't remember his ever having the day before Thanksgiving off. The day after, yes, but never the day before. Veteran's Day is a federal holiday and most schools he went to were closed. Since the actual holiday fell on a Sunday, Monday is the day observed by the FedGov.
LOL Blowing pass the tissue I got some snot on me!
I never said one darn thing about education. For Closed's information, most of my family is teachers, my mom taught special ed, my grandmother taught kindergarten, my aunt teaches English, my cousin teachers Spanish, my other cousin was teaching AP American History when he was 23 years old and directs the school musical every year (and is darn good at it), and on and on. I have the utmost respect for them and was actually hotly debating whether to get my teaching license as it seemed the most logical things to do but ultimately went another direction for various reasons, not the least of which was my mother's bad experiences with the teachers union. What days off are best for what school has nothing to do with education in math, science, English, music and the like. I don't think you need to be an educator to have an opinion on what days off are best for your child no more than you need to be a lawyer to have an opinion on the verdict of a case. When people are talking about the Diane Downs case I don't stomp around claiming you are not an expert in the law you cannot comment on your take on this! LOL, that's insane and ridiculous.
Thankfully, none of the educators in my family are as condensing as you. In fact, my grandmother was the most humble kindergarten teacher I ever met. You would be so lucky to have been in her class. Kindergarten students CAME TO HER RETIREMENT PARTY. They hadn't seen her in 20, 30, years, but they remembered what she did for them. This is the same grandmother, who, in the blizzard of 77, stayed with those four, five, and six year olds for days when they were snowed in at school. I didn't mention when I told that story how young the students were. It's commendable enough to stay with your students, but quite another thing when they are so little--they were scared, missed their moms and dads, but she got them through.
Venessa @121 - I remember those weird "air hugs" that she gave (or didn't give) the kids.
Vanessa oops I feel down the rabbit hole! Pull me up!!!
Sorry but I cannot stand someone implying I don't respect educators, since the people I love the most in the world are educators.
Jumping in here about the vacation days. The kids' school, as far back as I can remember, has not had a vacation day on Veteran's Day. The school is on a trimester system, with conferences held in October, and professional days usually in the middle of the month. There are days off then. There are also over-night class trips during October, which means some grades are not in school then.
With Veteran's Day at the beginning of the month, and Thanksgiving near the end, another day off just wouldn't fit into the schedule. The school, however, observes the day with events planned while it is in session. Students learn the importance of the day and celebrates it as such, honoring veterans however the teachers see appropriate to the learning experience. It's an in-school observance.
As far as Thanksgiving, the day before, and the Monday after has always been part of the vacation because many parents do go away for the holiday. It found that by having kids go back on the Monday following the holiday, because of travel plans, kids were taking off that Monday (especially if they returned late Sunday or Monday from the trip), it would work best to just allow an extra day off. All schools are different. This is the schedule that works best for that particular school.
With Veteran's Day at the beginning of the month, and Thanksgiving near the end, another day off just wouldn't fit into the schedule.
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Sorry Vets. You just didn't fit into the schedule. :(
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Lancaster you bring up a good point about, it's what works for the school. It's pretty well established who goes to that school, generally speaking (I'm sure you can come up with examples that don't fit the mold). I.e., families that can afford Thanksgivings out of town. Now for working class, blue collar families like much of America having all those days off can actually end up being a burden to parents to find childcare, since they can't afford some long Thanksgiving vacation and most workplaces only give Thursday and Friday off. So for those schools, Vets day when workplaces often do have it off makes more sense than some extended Thanksgiving vacation. Has nothing to do with being an "expert", just some simple common sense and an awareness of your demographic.
Perfect example of days off really are dependent for what works for the school and students at that time, and not everyone will always be happy. Someone will always be struggling to squeeze in a vacation, while someone else will always be struggling to find childcare, it's how it goes..
Admin - I betcha by golly wow that Closed for a Reason is off their meds again today or is a fake, trolling for a fight. Days off for school systems are negotiated as part of the contract with the teachers unions according to the needs of the demographics and also the members. Private schools often choose to be guided by the schedule of the main public system, but sometimes not. But we all know that.
I love teachers and I support the unions so this is not a slam.
Parent In Lancaster County @128 - I tend to forget that they go to a private school and private schools do run holiday schedules differently than the oh so mediocre public/DODSEUR schools that my son attended. Thanks for the reminder.
When she says homemade lunches, she means "NOT made at school" lunches. Remember she calls her Duncan Hines cakes "homemade" too. Bet the school lunches are more HOMEMADE then her 1/4 sandwhich, 2 carrot sticks and gallon of juice.
It's really so nauseating that every tweet is ABOUT HER! Who the hell could stand to be with someone like that for any period of time? I guess we have that answer.
Robert, if you still read here, what gives with deleting your blog posts? Did she win again?
Sorry Vets. You just didn't fit into the schedule. :(
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Quite the contrary. If kids have off for Veteran's Day, how many of them actually take the time to reflect on what it means? Certainly, some do. But if they are in school on that day, and observances are held there, teachers discuss what the day means, and so forth, I think they're getting much more out of it than many kids who stay at home playing video games or hanging out at the mall.
I see "Closed" didnt want us talking about Kate's Friday Car Service trip or the sluething to find Katherine. Those were the two things we were working on when "Closed" showed up and bullied the conversation into some kind of nonsense.
Carla, was that you?
So which was the bigger threat to Kate, the car service to take her out of state for a fresh bleach job, or us finding more about Katherine?
Taking time to throw in my 2 cents:
I dont think Kate took that picture because 1. It is not her usual style. This one is from the side vs over top of, and is nicely framed with the decoration to the back, and it is placed on twitter using " instagram" which Kate typically does not use.
I do not think the kids were with her at this meal anyways, and there are only 3 place setting.
The meal is very similar to this entre' from F&O:
LEMON SOLE PAPILLOTE 29
Lemon sole filet, zucchini, eggplant
fennel, tomato, thyme, scallion, saffron
Arbequina Olive Oil
As for the lettering... not sure exactly what it means, but I do not think it was done by kate. If Kate was labeling the parchment packages so she didnt get them mixed up she would put KG or just Kate as the lettering.
My hunch, this was a takeout from Friday from F&O when the car service took her to NYC, and prepared on Sunday at home.
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Venessa @121 - I remember those weird "air hugs" that she gave (or didn't give) the kids.
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I remember that too- it was awkward to watch, in a painful, cringing way. What the heck was Kate doing? Vanessa said she imitating what she thought looked right- sounds about right. Only problem is, Kate is getting her examples from the wrong places- I bet she is trying to act like some of her favorite reality tv shows, which,Kate.....aren't reality.
Oh snap Ladies- I must be slow- the troll is an educator- from TX I bet! I need more coffee
I was going to say that photo was instagramed. The photo also used the blurred background tool of instagrammed. I've never seen Kate use instagram let alone be advanced enough to know how to blur the background. You can't get that much of a blur without it. The iphone doesn't have that much aperture control.
meagler said... 138
I dont think Kate took that picture because 1. It is not her usual style. This one is from the side vs over top of, and is nicely framed with the decoration to the back, and it is placed on twitter using " instagram" which Kate typically does not use.
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If you scroll down to the bottom of that photo you'll see that there are 145 photos she's posted using img.ly, where the photo is stored. What is "instagram" vs img.ly?
There is a Kathryn's Katering in reading PA
Here is a you tube link....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3zqMITdWP8
By that logic we shouldn't let kids off of Thanksgiving or Christmas either because they can just learn about it at school. What do they need the day off for, they'll just lounge around anyway.
I think we walk a slippery slope when holidays that used to be a day where school and work were always closed suddenly becomes just another day again.
I think the take out from Fig and Olive when she was in NYC getting her hair fried sounds reasonable. She obviously did not cook that meal nor take that picture. And no way did she have the kids home last night. She probably packs their school lunches when they stay with Jon because she has to dictate even from afar what they eat.
Robert, please explain why your posts are gone. Are you finally coming out with the edited book?
Oh snap Ladies- I must be slow- the troll is an educator- from TX I bet! I need more coffee
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Oh snap back! lol
I have done it before, and I feel I must do it again.
"On behalf of the Great State of Texas, I humbly apologize that Kate's craziest fan hails from my proud state."
{please don't make us secede}....although we Ags SEC-eded...to the tune of 29-24 last Saturday night...Gig'Em
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I dont use instagram, but I see a lot of photos posted on FB and twitter that use it, and that last picture had similar qualities.
I believe the img.ly is a online service for posting/storing pictures.
Oh snap Ladies- I must be slow- the troll is an educator- from TX 140
You're probably right! You just left out the words "self proclaimed" and "alleged."
When you edit a photo in instagram, it immediately saves it on your phone to the folder that holds all the photos you took on your iPhone. You can then easily email or text that photo to anyone. At that point, all Kate has to do is check her email or text and from there upload it to twitter. Easy.
I hope the trip to NYC on friday, has nothing to do with Roberts blog having its posts swiffered.
Admin: Is there law that would allow for Kate's lawyers to state Robert has to stop posting private information about Kate, even when true? Any kind of privacy act??
I think strawman is a better name for our troll today. They have so much straw the made me sneeze. For instance, taking a simple discussion of days off and distorting it to a slam at "expert educators." HUH?
Someone pass the matches.
I'm lost when it comes to taking and posting photos. How can you tell she used instagram?
Admin, Sorry, but I think you are the one who escalated this discussion about days off. I didn't see Closed's statement as bitter or arrogant, merely stating a fact. An educator, by the nature of the job, is used to looking at things as it applies TO THE ENTIRE CLASSROOM, not to just one little face (or, in KK's case, 8 little faces). What works for a family unit doesn't always translate to the classroom unit. It's a teacher thing. BTW -- IMO, your attitude is one of the things wrong with today's educational system. Instead of seeing a teacher as a partner in caring for and TEACHING a child, too many make the teacher the enemy. More cooperation and less antagonism would go a long way to making our educational system better.
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I think strawman is a better name for our troll today. They have so much straw the made me sneeze. For instance, taking a simple discussion of days off and distorting it to a slam at "expert educators." HUH?
Someone pass the matches.
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miloandjack
@Kateplusmy8 @dowd24 Well...that's quite a variety/combo of protein! I guess its up in the air at this point? What will U choose? :)
Gladys has started her daily pestering to find out what's on the dinner menu. How many times will she tweet her until Kate finally gives in and spells out tonight's meal plan? I can't imagine living with such a busybody! Maybe she should just tweet Katherine directly!
I believe it is an App on a smart phone or iPhone that can change up your photos. Many people use a fuzzy blurred look, and that is what this picture looks like. Other then that, I dont know how else to explain it, as I too dont use it. Just seem to be able to tell when it has been used.
here is a link that will explain it better then I:
http://mashable.com/2012/05/29/instagram-for-beginners/
admin said - "I think strawman is a better name for our troll today. They have so much straw the made me sneeze. For instance, taking a simple discussion of days off and distorting it to a slam at "expert educators." HUH?"
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They usually show up on weekends, so I guess Strawman is home for the holiday. I hope she/he doesn't have too many days off over Thanksgiving.
Tweet the photo clearly has a filter on it. In other words, if you took a photo like that under normal conditions it would look more, well, blah? The colors are brighter and really pop, there is a slight artistic grain to it and overall yellow tones. It's hard to explain since there are so many filters you can choose from.
The best way is to show you before and after Instagram photos to try to give you a sense of how to recognize an Instagram photo:
http://blog.laptopmag.com/wpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/instagram-before-after-120411-02.jpg
http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/59600000/jpg/_59600269_montage-santorini-treated-a.jpg
Meagler, thanks for the link. :)
One other explanation, an iphone camera will try to take a picture of what you actually see. That is not what we actually see when we go through life. Life is not a bunch of trippy bright colors and yellow grainy tones. Instagram allows us to get artistic with what we really see to make interesting better photos.
The best way to spot an Instagram photo is to ask yourself if that's how it would really look in person.
Admin, I seem to always be a day late and a dollar short --lol -- but I just did a close up of your avatar and I am still ROFLMAO-- literally. That is BEYOND funny!
I remember the air kisses/hugs too...I thought she was just too lazy to get up and do it right. or was doing it for show..'the' show.
As for the mysterious dinner, her place has wine and the other two don't- maybe C and M were home and she shared the take-out or prepared by chef meal with them- the other plates seem different and can't really see the food . Probably she just gave them each a taste on their own plates and kept the original for herself.A 'rare treat' for them- probably squeals of delight! She does seem to be separating the twins from the tups more and more.
I understand all about filters, etc. However, I'm just confused how you know instagram was used with this particular photo and not others. I see it's an app for a camera. Maybe it was someone's else's camera? No biggie.
I agree that the photo definitely doesn't look like anything Kate has produced before.
ADMIN: Sorry to be a bug, but do you have any answer to my question about there being any type of law that Kate's lawyers could have used to have Robert close down, or swiffer away his blog posts?
Is there a Privacy law they could use to stop him from posting information about Kate and her 8, even if true?
Readerlady, Closed is a troll who right out of the gate started insulting and belittling. Further posts revealed exactly what she is. Sorry, I can't agree this time.
How you get this out of it I cannot fathom: "IMO, your attitude is one of the things wrong with today's educational system. Instead of seeing a teacher as a partner in caring for and TEACHING a child, too many make the teacher the enemy."
This is WAY out of line and not how i see teachers at all. I believe reasonable minds can disagree and that neither has to blindly follow imposition of the other.
Meagler that is a question that would take pages to answer. They can ask. Maybe he complied. Who knows.
Speaking of Mrs. Kravits, I think this is an odd request:
@MiloandJack
@Kateplusmy8 I've got a window of time 4nice walk..b4 more work. So that's where I'll be..just Jack & ME! Retweet Kate if U did ur run? :)
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Why, Milo...WHY??? Why do you need to know?
I understand all about filters, etc. However, I'm just confused how you know instagram was used with this particular photo and not others.
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By sight. By eye. Just like a mother can tell her twins apart, photo-minded people can tell these apart.
TWeet: there is nothing on the picture itself or a stamp that says instagram was used.. it is just a guesstimate ....esp since it looks so different... it actually looks like a good picture. Except the food in it, not so appetizing for me. Dont like fish bleckkkkkkkk
I didn't think it sounded like Readerlady.
I wonder if Robert's removal of the posts on his blog is a poke at the enablers. He'll let them jump up and down in glee, thinking that Kate won. Then his next post will be the re-release of the book.
The blog is still there(although empty) and the website is still there. I would think if he was ordered to remove the posts, he would also be ordered to delete the blog and website.
So it's just another wait and see what happens situation.
Whether the posts(just like the book) are pulled-it doesn't really matter. The info is already out there, thanks to this blog and ROL.
Instagram can make anything look good.
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TWeet: there is nothing on the picture itself or a stamp that says instagram was used.. it is just a guesstimate ....esp since it looks so different... it actually looks like a good picture. Except the food in it, not so appetizing for me. Dont like fish bleckkkkkkkk
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I get it now. Thanks. Sorry to be such a pest!!
Readerlady did you miss this part: "I can't stand when some educators (thankfully, not most) have this arrogant "I know best for my school" attitude."
I clearly said that MOST aren't a problem. How you got that I think "educators are the enemy" out of that is beyond me and frankly, hurts my feelings, especially since I went into a long explanation of my family's history in education and how very very proud I am of them.
There are bad apples in every group. I'm sorry, but is no different with educators. Or lawyers for that matter. That's life.
Aggiemom, on behalf of grateful posters, I accept your apology.
Also on Berks of myself, may I say how much I enjoyed a reality show I stumbled on channel surfing Sunday. American Hoggers on A&E. I had no ideas wild hoods could be such a problem to farmers or so destructive. I especially like how the patriarch, Jerry Campbell, has subtitles when he speaks. I kin unnerstand heem, but ispose some Yankees mightn have some trouble!
Makes me wish Squidbillies had subtitles. That Early Culyer, he has some accent on him too!
Thanks ADMIN! In Canada we have the Freedom of Information Act, and you could be held liable for posting information about a person even if factual. Not sure of all the ins and outs of that either.
The name of the ACT is a bit dubious, as it sounds like you are free to share information, but it means where it is personal and private, and you want to share it, you have to apply to the Act to get permission to share it. Typically anything about kids would be private and not sharable....
However, if you work for a Government Agency, they have the right to advertise your name and your wage for each year. Go figure :(
Meagler libel laws are complex with no clear answers. Google around.
Is it possible to take a web site down? Yes. Does it usually happen? Rarely.
It's far more likely for someone to voluntarily take something down, for whatever variety of reasons, including a long lawsuit to try to keep it up may not be financially worth it. I have no idea, that's just one possibility.
NJGal...When my kids were in middle school and I was driving them, we agreed we would do hugs and kisses before we left the house so they wouldn't be embarassed. For some reason, once they got into HS they didn't care who saw them hug and kiss me.
As far as school, today the public schools are closed. Our kids also go to school the day before Thanksgiving but it is a half day. They have the day after off. I believe the public school holidays are set by the state not the town.
Time will tell. I am certain we have not yet heard the end of Robert H.
PS: Couldnt resist... WE have today as a stat holiday in Honor of our Rememberance day. It is Observed as a National Holiday.
Sadly tho, some stores now open before 11:30 on the actual day, and I was told that some of the schools in my city DID NOT have a Remembrance Day Service in their public schools. Apparantly, some of our educators see it as being insensitive to some of the people attending our schools.
IMO: The schools may be public where any nationality or religion can attend, however, it is still a Canadian School! What country does not want to remember those people who served for their country at war??? Makes no sense...
And please, I am not open for discussion on this matter. It is my opinion, you can have yours, but I dont have to agree with it. Disagree nicely now....
Instagram does wonders- I posted a pic recently on FB (instagram is my new fav toy- ask my dog) and my kid says "wow mom- how did you take such a pretty picture?"
I am not kidding! I didnt know if I should feel insulted or not- but it goes to show- Instagram is awesome. And my dog now runs when she sees me w/the phone :D
Educators are just people. They make decisions everyone makes decisions & they are not better than parents or anyone else with an opinion on it. What is scary RL is when they think they know best and we should just trust them. What is this russia? They dont always know best or schools wouldnt be in such a mess these days.
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That's because it's Kate drunk tweeting and trying to stir up shit about everyone else but her.
As far as school, today the public schools are closed. Our kids also go to school the day before Thanksgiving but it is a half day. They have the day after off. I believe the public school holidays are set by the state not the town.
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Tx school schedules are determined by local control. Public school in Tx requires 180 days of in-class instruction. The state does have some say-so in regard to when the school term begins.
I've been without my computer for a couple weeks. trying to catch up on everything! WOW!
As for Veteran's Day, many thanks to all who serve or have served. You have all my respect. Dad was a B-17 pilot in WWII, shot down and a POW (now deceased), husband served in VietNam, son was in Army, SIL served in Bosnia and uncle was career Navy WWII and beyond.
The school board in our town approves the schedule of days off for our school district. The superintendent last year gave us the day before Thanksgiving off. That was the only time I ever remember having it off. This year we will not have it off. We always have Veteran's Day and the day after Thanksgiving off. The school year consists of 180 student days. Meaning days the students are scheduled to attend. That does not include staff development days. We have a week for Christmas, winter break and spring break that are also not included. I am a Para- Professional. I get paid for 10 holidays. They are Labor Day, Columbus Day, Veterans Day, 2 days for Thanksgiving, Martin Luther King, Presidents Day, Good Friday, Easter Monday,and Memorial Day. These are all submitted by the superintendent and approved by the school board. Anytime there is a change to the school calendar it has to be approved by the school board. I'm not sure if that helps answer the question of school days off. It is the way we handle it in our school district.
KathyB said...
I've been without my computer for a couple weeks. trying to catch up on everything! WOW!
As for Veteran's Day, many thanks to all who serve or have served. You have all my respect. Dad was a B-17 pilot in WWII, shot down and a POW (now deceased), husband served in VietNam, son was in Army, SIL served in Bosnia and uncle was career Navy WWII and beyond.
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What a wonderful service family!
In the state where I live, kids must attend 174 days of school. We have to build in a few days for snow days. Then there are the teacher work days/convention to schedule around, as well the traditional Christmas/Easter/Spring breaks.
School cannot start before Labor Day. So, in order to make sure the kids don't go to school until July, most Federal holidays are school days. From the time I was in school in the 1950s until today, Armistice/Veteran's Day has never been a school holiday.
Perhaps of some interest is the fact that having certain Federal Holidays on Monday is somewhat new, established in 1971, as the Uniform Monday Holiday Act.
not sure yet but got chicken breast, sausage, green beans and beef cubes from freezer..lol. I'll decide later...recipe please?;)
Who pulls out 3 different kinds of meat for dinner? That makes no sense to me. Are we having all meat for dinner with green beans thrown in on the side?
Sorry guys, I have to leave. I can't stand Kate Lying Gosselin.If she opens her mouth, or texts a tweet it's a lie. She is evil and always will be.
I hope Robert finds a publisher who has lots of attorneys to take on Her Hinneyness and he makes a fortune off that book. She probably threatened Blogger with a lawsuit.
She sure can't take back what's out there and we already know now,instead of suspecting, what a heinous creature she is.
John 8:32...Amercian Standard Version-
and ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
Someday it's all gonna come back, every spiteful mean thing she's ever done. If not here definitely in the next life. I will continue to pray for those children because she won't change. It would take years and years of counseling for her to change and she doesn't care because she is perfect!
Dear Lord protect those children.
gosselin book deleted all the posts on his site.
Sorry guys, I have to leave. I can't stand Kate Lying Gosselin. 189
Thank you for your respectful farewell.
Observant -- It was me, alright. Just got my buttons pushed. Doesn't happen that often, but sometimes the Irish in me comes out in unexpected ways.
Admin -- I'm sorry you got your feelings hurt. That was not my intent. However, I stand behind most of what I posted. After seeing more of "Closed"'s posts, I agree that the poster is most likely a troll. I got suckered in. Sorry. However, too many people blame the teachers for the failings of the school system. Yes, there are some bad ones out there -- too many, IMO. However, the prevailing attitude these days is to make the teacher the enemy instead of the partner. Most parents see their children as "special". That's a good thing, except when carried to extremes. Teachers have 20 or 30 or even more "special" children every year. The problem with today's schools isn't the fault of the teachers alone. It's the fault of the administrators, the law and the parents as well. Many parents no longer care about their child's behavior or their learning. Too many administrators have been out of the classroom too long to understand the challenges. Too much is expected of the teacher in addition to teaching. He or she is expected to be a social worker, nurse, counselor, psychologist and, in many cases, parent, in addition to actually educating the kids. The "No Child Left Behind" law leaves more kids behind every year. BTW -- the school I volunteer at (Parochial) had school today. There was a special Mass and program for the children and the classses had special lessons geared to teaching them about the importance of Veterans' Day. We are off the day before and the day after Thanksgiving. And before you ask, I worked half a day today. I come from a background of educators, too. My Grandfather taught. My Great Aunt, whom I idolized, was one of the very first special education teachers in the State of Ohio. My father was a teacher. He taught post-secondary, and, by nature of the school, a number of his students were veterans attending under the GI Bill, or were sent by Vocational Rehab because of handicaps. I can remember my father, who was not, by nature, a patient person, spending hours on the phone with a hopelessly confused student, patiently explaining the lesson. I still had absolutely NO concept of what it was like to be a teacher until I walked into my first classroom, saw that sea of little faces, realized that these little souls were mine for the next 7 or so hours, and understood that I was responsible for their safety and their welfare and their learning.
Sorry for the long post. I'll get off my soapbox now. As I said at the beginning, got my buttons pushed, big time! Again, I didn't intend to hurt your feelings Admin. Sorry.
I used to think all schools and colleges in us had Labor Day off. Until older dd went to Randolph-Macon College in Ashland VA. Cause it's 175 years old y'all, and a little thing like a federal holiday is absolutely NO reason to change TRADITION y'all! So RMC always starts classes ON Labor Day.
I never blamed teachers for failings of the system or even MENTIONED failings of the system or even teachers. I have no idea why in the world this is equated to, parents think their kids are special. Huh? Parents who want their children to observe and respect veterans day don't want their kids to be special, they just want their kids to grow up observing and respecting veterans day, it's as simple as that. I also never said teachers were the enemy or even remotely implied that. I just said it was a shame some schools dont' take off for Veterans Day. I never even assumed teachers were largely responsible for that decision in the first place. Probably depends on the school who has a say. My understanding is usually your average English or science teacher isn't going to have any say at all, other than what their union tells them is their position. My mother and grandmother were certainly never consulted about administrative policies. Those schools followed schedules that had been in place for decades.
"Everything that is wrong with the educational system" is WAY harsh and WAY out of line. SERIOUSLY??? Differing opinions on education are exactly what is RIGHT about our education system. I would expect teachers of all people to encourage debate and discussion. That's how we learn and evolve. I don't think someone who thinks they should go to school today is anti American or a bad mom or teacher, it's simply a different opinion on the best school schedule for kids. Nor is the other side a slam at teachers whatsoever.
Readerlady your buttons got pushed over something that was never even said, I'm afraid.
Our area lost internet for a few days-
I want to wish chefsummer a fabulous, belated birthday, and
say Happy Veteran's Day to all the brave soldiers, and their families. I am very, very
grateful to all of you.
Pink oh no what happened, did you not pay your bill? :)
Nothing better than sending my kids off 2school w a heart full of love(from my hugs&kisses)& a lunch packed w their favorite homemade food!
Nothing about this statement says this refers to this morning. It can apply to any school day. Maybe the children were with their Dad, she was in school morning mode and automatically did her obligatory Monday morning tweet.
And she did not prepare that table. Has she ever set a table with china, tabllelcoth, place mats, and crystal? Guess the plastic fork was cropped out. me-ow
I wonder if Robert's removal of the posts on his blog is a poke at the enablers. He'll let them jump up and down in glee, thinking that Kate won. Then his next post will be the re-release of the book.
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You mean like this one from Milo:
@RealZiggyFlo @Kateplusmy8 Oh shucks...did RobbieH have2back track? I think Kate just made a move2say #CHECK...waitin 4 her 2say #CheckMate
Milo, I wouldn't be so darn cocky just yet. You may have to eat those words.
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That's because it's Kate drunk tweeting and trying to stir up shit about everyone else but her.
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Remember Kate's prayer in Robert's book?
"Please help us to love each other and help me to keep my mouth shut especially when I am tired and I recognize that I am irritable!"
Maybe she should say the same one when she drinks.
"Please help me to love instead of using people and help me to keep my mouth shut especially when I am drunk and I recognize that I am despicable!"
And speaking of Robert, I do have to wonder what's up with his blog. In his book he said Kate kept a file she titled "Bad Blog" which was Dana's blog. Reading Eagle shut it down after Kate complained to Discovery about it. Then she got them to go after TWOP to take down the J&k+8 thread. She even went after "15 Minutes" but our beloved Admin isn't so easily intimidated. Boo Ya Kate.
It's ludicrous of her to continue to try to shut people up so the truth can't get out there. She doesn't understand there are only a few sheeple left who believe her lies. She's just wasting her kids money fighting off all these bad blogs and bad books.
Give it up why doncha Kate. The cat is out of the bag. You're a lying, coniving bully.
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