"You know, you guys might be surprised, but I am not Honey Boo Boo Child. No, I’m sorry, that’s just not me. It never was and it never will be. Please don’t cry because my reality show would be so boring. I would have to make out with Marion Cotillard or I’d have to spank Daniel Craig’s bottom just to stay on the air. It’s not bad work if you can get it, though. But seriously, if you had been a public figure from the time that you were a toddler, if you’d had to fight for a life that felt real and honest and normal against all odds, then maybe you too might value privacy above all else. Privacy. Someday, in the future, people will look back and remember how beautiful it once was. I have given everything up there from the time that I was 3-years-old. That’s reality-show enough, don’t you think?"Last August, Jodie Foster released some scathing comments about child stardom, calling it the "cruelty of a life lived as a moving target" and said you have to "submerge beneath the foul air and breathe through a straw." Previously, Foster had been fairly polite about being famous.
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I shudder at what your marriage must be if you think 2 adults that love eachother are deviant.
The majority of people are heterosexual. Those who aren't deviate from the norm. Hence the use of the word "deviant."
de·vi·ant/ˈdi vi ənt/ Show Spelled [dee-vee-uh nt] Show IPA
adjective
1. deviating or departing from the norm; characterized by deviation: deviant social behavior.
noun
2. a person or thing that deviates or departs markedly from the accepted norm.
Southern Belle said... 184
It used to be that homsexuals had to hide in the closet because they feared not being accepted.
Now, thoe of us who are opposed to their deviant lifestyle are in the same position.
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WTF??? That's kind of a random, out of the blue statement and please don't try and poke people here into an argument. Next subject, please.
**************************************************Hey, no fair to tell this poster what opinion she has to share. It goes hand in hand with other posts about Jodie feeling comfortable about speaking about her sexuality. Obviously, this poster, Sounthern Belle does not feel comfortable with it. Or has a different view than YOU.
I personally agree. Don't shove your sexuality down my face. As I don't shove my heterosexual life down your face.
What is the blog famous for saying, scroll on by.
My opinion
OT...
Berks Neighbor and Berks Resident -- did you hear about the stabbing at the Middle School? That's only about four miles from Wernersville. Geez, aren't our kids safe anywhere?
"Jo, I don't think my post was random. This thread is about Jodie Foster and her "coming out" has been discussed by almost everyone. I was adding my two cents."
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Your post wasn't random at all. The discussion was about Jodie mentioning her partner in her acceptance speech, and some felt that because she has pretty much been silent in the private aspects of her life, why would she bring this out at a public awards event. Your opinion is valid. It does seem that there is a growing pressure in society to accept gay partnerships, and if you take the conservative stance on this issue and feel that this kind of relationship goes against your beliefs, you either keep quiet about it or face criticism.
Southern Belle said... 196
Tucker's Mom, thank you for your reasonable reply.
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Many people agree with you but as always in conversation here and in the "real world' we need to treat each other with respect and compassion.
Hollywood is and has been a very strong force, an oligarchy of very rich and very influential people. But in much of our country, all those "Bible Belt" and "Fly Over" states if you will, those Red States, opinions differ and I bet most of them wouldn't be able to pick Kate Gosselin out of a lineup!
It is my opinion that homosexuals to practice deviant behavior. Men having anal sex to me is deviant. Woman wearing a strap on is deviant to me. I won't apologize or tow the politically correct line about it either.
My opinion
Southern Belle, please. I didn't just fall off the turnip truck, nor did the other people who post comments here.
Your dictionary definition totally begs the question of
1) what's "accepted"
2) what's "normal"
Your ideas?
Antiquated. See also: Intolerant.
and if you take the conservative stance on this issue and feel that this kind of relationship goes against your beliefs, you either keep quiet about it or face criticism
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Keep quiet or face criticism??? Really. Are we now ok to be critical of another posters viewpoint? We discuss various topics all the time and don't agree, but no one gets too much criticism for it. Agree to disagree? Scroll by. The gay community HAMMERS in their private life. Nothing private about most homosexual's lifestyle in Hollywood. They certainly bring up PLENTY of deviant behavior and that is THEIR choice. They get a rise out of making others uncomfortable. Why are other's uncomfortable? because their lifestyle is indeed deviant.
My opinion
Anon, your post was a little graphic for me. I don't like to think of what gays do alone in the privacy of their homes. That's not homophobic. I also think about what my straight friends in the privacy of theirs.
I like Jodie Foster. But I didn't like her speach. It was...off. It sounded both scripted and like she was totally unprepared. I'm not alone in thinking it was bad, their are many articles that share my opinion. And for someone who claimed she wanted privacy, it was an odd choice to draw so much attention to her personal life.
I enjoy different points of view. Tolerance is a good thing. I doubt any opinions will be changed but it's an interesting topic.
Hoo boy, that was fast. Can I just invoke Godwin's Law right now and hopefully we can get back to our regular programming?
The words deviant and deviate DO NOT have the same tone. Deviant implies perversion.
If you don't believe in homosexuality, then don't be one. You have no right to condemn or condone other people's choices in the matter of sexual orientation.
It's amusing to watch people go anonymous when expressing what they feel may be a controversial opinion. Afraid to step out of what they might consider "group think?" One has to wonder.
Anonymous said... 6
It is my opinion that homosexuals to practice deviant behavior. Men having anal sex to me is deviant. Woman wearing a strap on is deviant to me. I won't apologize or tow the politically correct line about it either.
My opinion
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So are str8 woman who have anal w/ their partner they're deviant as well?
How about staying out of peoples bedroom and mindind ur own business .
The intolerance people show for those with different opinions flies in the face of how they tell us to accept.
Homosexuals are perverts. Their sexual acts are acts of perversion.
I am not anon.
My opinion
Anonymous said... 15
So are most str8 people get over it.
Keep quiet or face criticism??? Really. Are we now ok to be critical of another posters viewpoint? We discuss various topics all the time and don't agree, but no one gets too much criticism for it.
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I was speaking about society in general, not commenting here on this blog.
Personally, I wish we would live in a society where the only time someone's sexuality was even relevant was if you wanted to sleep with them.
My heterosexuality is not my defining characteristic. It is only one part of who I am as a whole.
I'm not sure if Southern Belle's feelings stem from religious conviction or not. As a Christian and someone who now attends an evangelical church but who grew up in a more Christian Humanist household and church, I have struggled with this issue. However, I have concluded that Matthew 22:36-40 is truly the final word. ( “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?” Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”
In the end, it doesn't matter a hill of beans to me who someone wants to have sex with. What matters is being in relationship with my fellow humans.
For those of you who are interested, I recommend http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2012/julyweb-only/better-conversation-about-homosexuality.html
Amen, Silimom, amen.
It's amusing to watch people go anonymous when expressing what they feel may be a controversial opinion. Afraid to step out of what they might consider "group think?" One has to wonder.
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You can tell who the anonymous posters are because of certain tags, particularly one of them who had been banned.
If these people were true Christians they would not judge others based on their sexuality.
God is love and he accepts us.
Chefsummer - Yes, if the definition of deviant as posted earlier is to be applied, then yes, for someone who lives a sexually and socially conservative lifestyle those sexual acts you listed are deviant. They deviate from that person's worldview.
It seems the real question you're asking, at least to me, is "Are those types of sexual acts wrong?" and that comes down to personal ethics which are great to debate but which, in my experience, tend to turn into flame wars when debated on the internet. Personally, I agree that those decisions are best left in the bedroom between consenting adults and we should move on.
If you don't believe in homosexuality, then don't be one. You have no right to condemn or condone other people's choices in the matter of sexual orientation*********************************
Sure I do. Society does all the time. Just because a group is telling me I shouldn't doesn't make it accurate. See you are correct though, homosexuality is a choice.
My opinion
And Chef, for a person who lives a socially and sexually conservative lifestyle, those acts would be deviant whether engaged in by a homosexual or heterosexual couple.
OT, but I just looked at the best and worst dressed pics and noticed something remarkable. The "good bras" have gone the way of poodle skirts and bobby socks. There was not one shot with inflated boobs. In fact some looked as though they had chosen a dress that would in fact minimize them if they still had them. I think the Hollywood ladies (who are working) have deflated themselves. I was kind of suspecting that might happen when I read that producers were having a hard time casting people because the inflated boobs didn't fit the character. I think it was Johnny Dep that was looking high and low for a flat chested female to costar with him. I in my mind had recommended Kelly Rippa who is quite actually a very good actress. She was very good in Hope and Faith. I just wanted to share my monumental revelation. Good for the working girls of Hollywood.
silimom said... 22
I could see if people doing "It" in public but since their not.
To me it's on ones business what to adults do sexually.
silimom said... 24
Well I don't see anything wrong with gay people so maybe that's why I "don't get it".
OT about dogs. My Boston Terrier is still seizure free since starting on the phenobarb. And our most recent foster dog has found her forever home with a big brother lab and a sister cat. Her last try at a forever home didn't work out, the dog already in that home wanted to continue to be an only dog.
Anonymous said... 23
Sure I do. Society does all the time. Just because a group is telling me I shouldn't doesn't make it accurate. See you are correct though, homosexuality is a choice.
My opinion
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Hetero sexuality is a choice to then.
Whether discussing heterosexuals or homosexuals this is NOT about the act itself, but about attraction, love, caring for the other person. Good grief, no one wants to know what anyone else does in their bedroom. And, for pete's sake, relationships-truly healthy ones at least-aren't defined by sex! Gay people are asking to be given the same rights as straight people. Period. They want to make end of life decisions for their partner, have access to their partner's health insurance, and to be able to marry the person they love.
In some of these posts, if you substitute the word gay or homosexual with the word black, you can clearly see the eery similarities between biases of the civil rights movement and biases against gay rights. Sadly, this country may not have progressed as far as we'd like to believe. Maybe we just switched the target of the prejudice.
I did not choose to be heterosexual. I was born this way.
Did you make a choice or do you do what is natural for you?
I have a young family member who was brutally beaten for being gay. This is a man I love and admire for being who he is in spite of what other family members think. He did not choose to be gay. He was born that way.
Pity Party said... 25
OT, but I just looked at the best and worst dressed pics and noticed something remarkable. The "good bras" have gone the way of poodle skirts and bobby socks. There was not one shot with inflated boobs.
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I just caught up with seasons 1 and 2 of Downton Abbey and they didn't have good bras back in the day! Many of the actresses are absolute waifs.
I think there were a lot of great looks at the awards show. Some misses, but otherwise most women looked classy.
JoyinVirginia said... 28
OT about dogs. My Boston Terrier is still seizure free since starting on the phenobarb.
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Continued health to the BT. It gives peace of mind to know and hope that a medication is helping.
Well, in support of my wonderful brother, I have to say I never thought of him as perverted. He was gay and had a long time partner with whom he was very much in love. He and his friends were the best bunch of guys I've ever known. Kind, funny, hardworking, sensative...
Amazingly, I did not know he was gay until I was in my 30s. Looking back, I must have been pretty self-absorbed. He told me he was HIV positive and that he was gay in the same phone call. To say I was shocked would be an understatement. This was back in the mid-80s when AIDS fever was at its height and everyone in the world was terrified of getting the 'gay disease'.
It took me a few weeks to settle my mind about it, but when I realized that he wasn't some random, faceless person in a crowd, that he was MY BROTHER, it was easy to see him, not a gay guy with HIV. He came with a lifelong backstory, a history of brother-sister love and life that was more important than anything else.
I can't speak for others, but he was my brother for 43 years. To me, he was a brother who was gay, not a gay man who was my brother. BROTHER superceded all else. He was still the same funny, loving, smart, cool guy that he'd always been. I never once, not ever thought of what he did in the PRIVACY of his bedroom.
It's been my experience that if you get to know the person first, it's easy to love them with all their warts and idiosyncrasies.
And I have to add this for Southern Belle, I would bet money that you have gay friends in your personal and work circle and don't even know it. Many gay people are very adept at fitting in when they need to in situations where intolerance is rampant.
For you I wish peace and tolerance. I am not criticizing you, I am saying I'm sorry you've not had the pleasure of knowing people of all types, shapes, sizes and sexual preferences. You've lost out on some great times.
Just a comment. My next door neighbors are a married gay couple. They are the nicest people and take such good care of their property, are generous and are fun to interact with.Give us veg from their garden and also baking- best neighbors ever! I never have wondered what they do in private and they don't make put their 'personal' life out there any more than I do.
As a SoCal resident who lives in an area known for having plastic surgery centers on every block, I have to say...most women I know have long-since traded away their "good bras" for cuter clothes. Big boobs are so 2010 (and earlier)! And despite TLC's coming out with that ridiculous new show, "Double Divas," the overly-inflated, matronly look of a DD implant is definitely out.
The majority of people are heterosexual. Those who aren't deviate from the norm. Hence the use of the word "deviant."
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If the majority of people were gay, and you were a heterosexual, would you like to be called "deviant" or a "pervert(as someone else said)? Think about it.
I don't care if a person is straight, gay, black, white, etc. They have no control over that. What matters is who they are as a person and human being.
Permanent Name in Blue said... 34
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That was so touching and moving.
Permanent Name in Blue said... 34
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Thanks for sharing the story of your brother who sounds like a great guy. Lucky to have you for a sister.
Am I rightthat he is sadly no longer with you? I am so sorry.The world lost a good man.
silimom said... 18
Personally, I wish we would live in a society where the only time someone's sexuality was even relevant was if you wanted to sleep with them.
My heterosexuality is not my defining characteristic. It is only one part of who I am as a whole.
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Courtney said... 30
Whether discussing heterosexuals or homosexuals this is NOT about the act itself, but about attraction, love, caring for the other person. Good grief, no one wants to know what anyone else does in their bedroom. And, for pete's sake, relationships-truly healthy ones at least-aren't defined by sex!
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COURTNEY AND SILIMOM,
BRAVO for saying it so beautifully! Truly caring and loving points of view....
Formerly Duped,
He died in 1998 at the age of 43. For 15 years from his diagnosis, he lived a full, productive and happy life with family and friends.
He died in 1998. I miss him every day. His legacy is my overwhelming belief in tolerance for all.
I've always believed that those most threatened by gay people are probably (unconsciously) unsure about their own sexuality.
Good friend has been living with AIDS since 1985. God Bless your brother.
Anonymous said... 23
If you don't believe in homosexuality, then don't be one. You have no right to condemn or condone other people's choices in the matter of sexual orientation*********************************
Sure I do. Society does all the time. Just because a group is telling me I shouldn't doesn't make it accurate. See you are correct though, homosexuality is a choice.
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Once again, I'm pointing to Rule 1 on this blog. Do not post as anonymous. Pick a name and include it in your post if you can't manage to do anything else. You look cowardly hiding behind anonymous, maybe you didn't realize this?
Permanent:
My heartfelt condolences on the loss of your brother. He sounds like he was a wonderful man.
To read some of the intolerance shown here today saddens me. Just when I think our society has begun to move beyond judging others for things like their sexual orientation, it smacks me in the face so hard it hurts. I will never understand hating someone because of who they love.
Southern Belle said... 184
''It used to be that homsexuals had to hide in the closet because they feared not being accepted.
Now, thoe of us who are opposed to their deviant lifestyle are in the same position.''
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You SHOULD fear not being accepted as long as you continue to believe that homosexuals lead a ''deviant lifestyle''!!!
Mel said... 197
''I think the majority of people don't think what you think they think.
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I agree with you, Mel !!
The majority of people are heterosexual. Those who aren't deviate from the norm. Hence the use of the word "deviant."
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If the majority of people were gay, and you were a heterosexual, would you like to be called "deviant" or a "pervert(as someone else said)? Think about it.
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I understand your point. No, I'm sure I wouldn't like it. But that would not make the people saying it inaccurate.
I don't care if a person is straight, gay, black, white, etc. They have no control over that. What matters is who they are as a person and human being.
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A person has no control over skin color, this is true. It has yet to be determined the roots of homosexuality. Just because people say it's not a choice does not make it a fact.
Southern Belle said... 184
It used to be that homsexuals had to hide in the closet because they feared not being accepted.
Now, thoe of us who are opposed to their deviant lifestyle are in the same position.
The pendulam has swung too far to the left.
It's super that so many people accept them, I mean that sincerely. Yet it seems like we've been asked to not only tolerate but celebrate the gays.
I feel bad that I can't/don't/won't
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Wow. This is one of the most vicious and hurtful things I have read on this blog to date. I will be back when the thread changes.
If that had been posted using Catholics, Blacks, Jews, Infertile Women, Lawyers, Irish, Vietnam Veterans or any other groups of people who in the past got clumped together to be ridiculed and shunned, would it have been allowed to remain unswiffered?
Pity Party, I like to look at the dresses too. I hadn't really noticed the bra sizes, but you are right! I saw a promo for the double divas show, some people are just naturally larger and if they are obese it just adds to their natural assets. My sil was naturally very well endowed and had a breast reduction when she finished having kids. Her back hurt all the time, she had to do something.
Southern Belle said... 46
Answer me this then_(i bet u wont) did you chose to be str8?
Permanent Name in Blue said... 34
I was very moved by your post. He sounds like a wonderful man who had a wonderful life. I hope you can take comfort in that.
I don't understand the belief that homosexuality is something wrong. What can be wrong with two people in love? Gays and lesbians pay taxes, are expected to work and contribute to society just like everyone else so they deserve the same rights and freedoms.
I'm heterosexual because I was BORN that way. Homosexuality is NOT a choice. Hasn't there been enough scientific research on this subject to prove it?
Permanent--condolences on the loss of your brother. He seems like he was a wonderful man whose life ended too soon.
Penny said... 42
I've always believed that those most threatened by gay people are probably (unconsciously) unsure about their own sexuality.
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And I've always said that gays are confused about their sexuality.
You know what they say about opinions!
There's a difference in being threatened by something and not approving of it. Are you threatened by Kate Gosselin, or do you not approve of her actions? Big difference.
If that had been posted using Catholics, Blacks, Jews, Infertile Women, Lawyers, Irish, Vietnam Veterans or any other groups of people who in the past got clumped together to be ridiculed and shunned,
Or fat people. Another "group" that is still socially acceptable to mock.
Permanent....my condolences on the loss of your brother. There are no words. Hogs to you.
I am short. Not "little people" short, but shorter than just about anybody I know. In this I deviate from the norm. Although I have been teased a little about it I have never been shamed or shunned for being short. I have never had to worry about being physically assaulted for being short. I have never been accused of being wrong, or sick or repulsive for being short. I never felt I should commit suicide for being short.
As long as there are people being tortured for just being who they were born to be I think that it is fitting for successful people to show that life is worth living with whatever you have been given. I think that is what Jodie was trying to do.
Since homosexuality has been present in all cultures through all time, and even occurs in the animal kingdom, perhaps variant is a better term for it. Variety starts few fights.
My two cents.
Southern Belle said... 52
I think gay people know who they are maybe you don't know who you are.
And no ones't threatened by a greedy child/animal abuser.
Southern Belle said... 52
I bet if Kate ever came out as gay you would change your toon.
tian Humanist household and church, I have struggled with this issue. However, I have concluded that Matthew 22:36-40 is truly the final word. ( “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?” Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”
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One can go back and forth between scriptures until the cows come home, pointing to Sodom and Gomorrah, and the fact that God created male and female, not male and male, or female and female, or to Leviticus 18:22 as a point against gay relationships, or to your argument that in the end, it is all about the first commandment taking precedence above all else.
In the end, the debate will continue, and nobody is ever going to convince the "opposing" side, who has held firm to personal or religious beliefs, that he/she is wrong.
I think we need to move on from this conversation. Opinions aren't going to change and it could get even uglier than it already is. And I have a feeling this original poster on the topic of being gay did so to sh$t stir and move the conversation away from Kate, etc. These sheeple live to create dissention.
Jane
Great post, Py
Belle asked;
Are you threatened by Kate Gosselin, or do you not approve of her actions? Big difference.
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Was Kate born to grift and beat her kids?
SHE has a choice NOT to beat her kids.
Amazing, everything comes back to Kate with those that start crap here.
What if one of your children is gay?
Would you rather they live a lie and be unhappy or kill themselves because those are the only CHOICES you are giving.
Jane 58-I agree.
Speaking of Kate. I took a look at her twitter feed. Some of her long time fans are asking what "adorbs" means. Are they really that dense or do they just hope to get a response?
Another thing that makes me giggle are the tweets showing astonishment at the twins being 12. If these people were true fans, wouldn't they already know that?
Blowing In The Wind said... 57
In the end, the debate will continue, and nobody is ever going to convince the "opposing" side, who has held firm to personal or religious beliefs, that he/she is wrong.
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So true. It's that way in all things. That is the reason there are pro and anti Kate blogs and tweeters who have been fighting with each other for years. The only way it stops is for each person to move on when they decide the points each makes will not change minds.
I submit that we allow Southern Belle and Anonymous-(my opinion) to have their opinions. They are the product of their upbringing, their families, their churches.... there is nothing at all we can say to change their opinion. It will be a waste of our effort and good will to try, and the results with be no change.
Personally, I disagree with them vehemently. But they disagree with me, so... even-steven, cancel each other out, zero sum game... etc etc.
I'm not sure we'll ever come to any resolution about this topic. And I hate to see the blog have a days-long discussion 'is it right, is it wrong' when there is no right answer.
Just my humble opinion.
And thanks to those who offered condolences. The loss of any life is sad... and a reminder to make the best of life while we have it!
Kate is a twit said... 60
You can't blame her sheep now I mean look who they are following.
I mean who knew that Kate adorbs was short of adorable?
Remona said, "You SHOULD fear not being accepted as long as you continue to believe that homosexuals lead a ''deviant lifestyle''!!!"
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Ouch! Someone should live in fear because of their own opinions? I, too, am sad at the intolerance and nasty comments on BOTH sides of the issue.
Back when this all settles down...
Standing ovation, Dwindle
Wonderful post, Pym
I, too, will wait until the topic or thread changes before venturing back.
Here's a new topic - :-)
Has anyone ever used the clay masks from Mountain Herbs dot com? I saw an ad for them, got them today, just tried the green clay mask.... aaaiieeee - my face is ... something! Tingling, itchy, oooh, shaking my head here - I just washed it off and I sure can tell something happened....
LOL - now that is probably not a good recommendation, but I never used clay masks before. As it was drying it was pulling and itching. Can I assume that is normal?
Will I be beautiful now? ha ha DH just kept looking at me with a green face - he had some kind of unreadable expression on his face. Hmmm, this new experience is weird!!!
On the contrary, I think Kate might be gay. She has that off-putting trait about here that is quite unpleasant.
I would still love my child if one of them turned out to be gay. A mother's love can't be turned off and on like a switch. I would do everything in my power to help them get better and seek the help of our church to become normal again. If that didn't work I would accept, even though I don't approve.
My biggest concern would be if they decided to bring a child into the world. I can't codone those people raing children under any circumstances.
I'll try to check in later. I'm disappointed but not surprised by most of the comments.
Have a good afternoon.
Why is this discussion going on? I agree with Dwindle. This is hurtful on a number of levels. Permanent, I am so sorry for the loss of your beloved brother. I love my gay and lesbian friends. What is there to "tolerate"? Sad. Very sad.
Anon - Jane - 58,
Excellent suggestion! Everyone has had their say, it's time to bring out the IGNORE protocol.
If we all ignore it, it will either go away or get swiffered. win-win.
southern belle
gay people aren't sick they won't get better that is how they are.
my daughter is gay with a loving partner and 2 young children.
they are happy well adjusted 6 and three year olds.
i am proud of my daughter her partner and my beautiful grandchildren
It's been 45 minutes since I washed the mask off... I'm not beautiful yet.
How long will this take?
Dwindle, you're the expert on all things - how long before I turn into a tall thin blonde with perky girls and beautiful skin? Oh, and a smaller perkier nose?
I have high hopes for this clay mask!!! LOL
I think the Hollywood ladies (who are working) have deflated themselves. I was kind of suspecting that might happen when I read that producers were having a hard time casting people because the inflated boobs didn't fit the character.
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Hmmmmm. Could that be where Kate disappeared to at Christmastime? A de-boobing? So a producer would hire her for a role? Even Johnny Depp?
hahahahahahahahaha!
Another thing that makes me giggle are the tweets showing astonishment at the twins being 12. If these people were true fans, wouldn't they already know that?
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Twit@60: There must have been more than a dozen sheeple, who never tweeted Kate before, jump on Twitter last night at the same time, being surprised at the age of the twins. I don't know much about Twitter, but this seemed really suspicious to me!
Permanent Name in Blue said... 72
It's been 45 minutes since I washed the mask off... I'm not beautiful yet.
How long will this take?
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I had a strong reaction to a new mask I tried recently. I had high hopes for clear, even skin and small pores and wound up with a red, irritated face for a day.
Avoid soap, use Cetaphil and the like and i recommend vitamin C serums along with a good moisturizer.
No way will Kate give up those boobs. No way.
Sillimom good to see you pop in, as usual you said it so well, especially how I reconcile my Christian beliefs with my views on gays in much the same way you have. But perhaps we should move on now as I don't see this leading to anything but flames.
rainbowsandunicorns said... 74
Another thing that makes me giggle are the tweets showing astonishment at the twins being 12. If these people were true fans, wouldn't they already know that?
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Oh, Silly! Don't you know the kids DE age, not age!
The tups will be back in the womb soon.
"Off-putting trait, unpleasant"
"Get better and be normal"
"Those people"
Wow, just. Wow.
Fidosmommy,
"De-boobing" - ROFLMAO!
Excellent - love the new word.
I'm glad deflated boobs are back in and also most of Hollywood is back to pasty white instead of the silly yellow spray tans, which to me looks so much more natural and healthy. Baby steps.
But perhaps we should move on now as I don't see this leading to anything but flames.
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Yes, this has gotten as ugly as I can read, but indulge me this recommendation for anyone who hasn't seen-- the HBO documentary "All Aboard", Rosie O'Donnell's gay family cruise.
The stories and especially the children were beautiful.
http://www.amazon.com/All-Aboard-Rosies-Family-Cruise/dp/B000FL7CBO
Tucker's Mom,
Thanks for the advice. I'm not sure I'm 'redder' but I sort of itch... must be some kind of beauty trying to come out, ha ha...
I'll do the cetaphil and moisterizer... but what is Vit. C serum?
Can I get it at a drugstore?
Southern Belle . . . are you for real? Off putting traits? "Those" people? Really?
I find your statements to be boorish.
Marie
OK, as long as I'm here today, I want to rant about a problem I've been having for the past few months.
And I'm am deadly serious about this - it's not a joke!
I am having trouble peeling hard boiled eggs. Seriously... for all my life (I'm 61) I've boiled them, run cold water over them and peeled them. Now I am having the devil's own time getting them to peel without taking most of the white with the shell.
We boil a dozen at a time, and use them throughout the week in recipes. Here's the glitch: nothing has changed. I am doing it the same way I've always done it, using the same eggs I've always used....
And today, like the past few months, I find myself at the sink just cussing and swearing and finally squashing the damn things in my hands and peeling a lot of white off.
1. How can such a minor thing piss me off so much?
2. What am I doing wrong? It's been the same technique and eggs for years and years?
3. Is there a great GMO chicken conspiracy to make eggs harder to peel?
4. How can something so lifelong change?
5. Am I getting some kind of dementia or hand-eye coordination syndrome that prevents peeling eggs?
Really and truly friends, I cannot believe how frustrated I find myself with these damned eggs.
Interesting side note: during the same time period I am finding the whites don't separate as easily from yolks in raw eggs for baking, etc...
Have eggs changed? Have chickens changed? Am I going to have to give up hardboiled and go to scrambled?
Wahhh.... what's going on? It's like this is the little pebble in the shoe on a long walk. Life as we know it is going to hell in a handbaskit and I'm being undone by peeling eggs...
If any of you have found the same thing happening, or have any suggestions for a stress-free peeling technique, I'd love to hear it.
I don't want to get carted away in a white jacket because I flipped out peeling eggs. How sad would that be?
Me thinks Southern Belle is intentionally trying to divert. Notice that when the conversation started to go away from her topic she brought it right back with even more outrageous statements.
Permanent Name, did you put soothing cucumber slices on your eyes while you applied the mask. Everyone knows you must put cucumber slices on your eyes, right? It always works on TV! And if out doesn't work, you can eat the rest of the cucumber.
Tucker's Mom,
Thank you for the suggestions. We have a CVS just down the block, I'm heading out now for the Freemans and Lumene. It's always good to have a recommendation from someone who uses a product. There are so darn many of them it's hard to know what to choose. I usually like Burt's Bees stuff.
I need to step away from the sink before I throw egg peels through the window...
Permanent Name in Blue said... 86
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It is NOT just you, believe me. If you look up how to peel eggs, you'll find people swearing by dozens of different methods.
I know for a fact that a fresher egg is harder to peel because the air bubble inside is much smaller, so maybe we're getting fresher eggs in our cartons?
Supermarket eggs and farmers market eggs are equally as responsible for causing me meltdowns!
Sometimes by the time I'm done peeling the egg, it's practically destroyed.
The best result I get is rolling the egg to shatter the shell and peel either under a running faucet or in a bowl of very cold water.
Permanent Name in Blue said... 86
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Are you using organic eggs? Check this out:
Sometimes, I’m a little slow to pick up on cause and effect. Let me give you an example. My husband’s family loves deviled eggs, and for years, I’ve been making them by the dozens for different events. A few years ago, I noticed that I was having trouble peeling them. The shells were sticking to the insides, ripping the hard-boiled eggs apart and creating a not-so-attractive side dish for parties.
It never occurred to me that the problem was the type of eggs I was buying. The eggs I buy now are from free-range chickens, and they’re much fresher than the eggs I used to buy from the grocery store. It turns out, the fresher the egg, the more difficult it will be to peel when it’s hard-boiled.
More here on how to peel fresh h/b eggs:
http://www.mnn.com/food/healthy-eating/blogs/use-baking-soda-for-easy-to-peel-hard-boiled-eggs
Holy smokes,
Well, thank goodness it isn't JUST me! Tucker, we must be buying eggs from the same chickens. Some of the peeled ones I have are only good for egg salad or chopped on salads.
I can tell there is a membrane right inside the shell and usually I could peel 'under the membrane' and get the shell off in one piece.
OK, the lesson to take away from this is that it's not me, I'm not imagining things, I don't have a syndrome preventing effective peeling and there doesn't seem to be a nationwide chicken conspiracy... whew....
Tweedle, I'll read that article about baking soda... maybe that will be the magic bullet.
Thanks for taking my crisis seriously! DH said I was an idiot to post about it. Of course, he said 'idiot' in the nicest possible way. LOL
I love this blog. Such nice people, with good suggestions and advice. No 5150 hold for me tonight! ha ha
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 81
I'm glad deflated boobs are back in and also most of Hollywood is back to pasty white instead of the silly yellow spray tans, which to me looks so much more natural and healthy. Baby steps.
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But clearly Lea Michele didn't get the spray tan memo.
I have the best success w/peeling hard boiled eggs when I shatter them as Tucker's Mom does, and peeling them under running water over a colander to catch the shell pieces....while they're still warm. I've found that if I wait till the eggs are cool, they are a nightmare to peel.
Perm Name - if the eggs are really, really fresh they are the devil to peel - I actually use 1 week old eggs for hard boiling - do you roll the eggs on a flat surface to break up the shell? Also organic/farm fresh are difficult too - have you tried the 'as seen on tv ' - "eggies"?? They are really fun and actually work
Perm,
Agree with others, peel under cold water, maybe try boiling a little longer than usual.I tap it a little on the counter on one end to start the cracking process. Very strange indeed.
Permanent Name in Blue ~
My manicurist suggested a fail-safe method of removing the shells from hard-boiled eggs. The directions take longer to type/read than it takes to do this process:
Once the eggs have cooked, drain all the water out of the pan. Cool the eggs in a cold water bath. Once the eggs have cooled, replace the lid and shake the pan, very fast, for about a minute. When you remove the lid again, the eggs will be mostly peeled. Drain the water, and rinse off the shell remnants. Easy-peasy!
Re: peeling hard-boiled eggs. Another way to ease the peeling is, after they are cooked, drain and cool them. Keep them in the saucepan, put a cover on it and shake it vigorously so the shells shatter. The eggs should then peel effortlessly under running water. This trick has worked for me many times. I wish I could take credit for discovering it, but it is one of the handful of useful things I've learned from Rachael Ray.
My method, that used to work and now doesn't:
1 dozen eggs
1 pan cold water
Cover eggs with water about 1 inch over the top of eggs.
Place on gas range, on high.
Timer set for 18 minutes.
Takes about 8 minutes for full boil, then boil for 10 minutes.
Set pan in sink, run cold water into pan until full of cold water.
Tap eggs on each end to crack, then roll them to crack all over.
Start to peel from the fat top. I used to be able to get my finger under the shell membrane and peel almost in one big peel piece.
Now it's hard to get finger under membrane, it seems to want to stick to shell or not come off egg easily.
Must be fresher eggs - I'll try to use 1 week old next time plus the baking soda.
I've always used the 15-20 minute total time and never had problems with green yolks. I guess I should also try the boil 3 minutes then let sit for 20 in pan off heat.
When using that timing method, I assume the yolks get cooked... seems odd to me but I'm willing to try it. (Mama will be rolling in her urn, but I can live with that... LOL)
Anything to eliminate frustration over peeling eggs. There are way more bigger problems to get upset about than eggs. It always seems to be the little things that end up causing the most aggravation. Or maybe I have less tolerance for little things....
Wednesday is egg testing day. *smile*
Perm Name - you gotta get the "eggies" thingy - you crack the egg and then dump into their little dishes and then put their little tops on and boil away - it actually works - we lived on them last summer and no more peeling. You can get them at Wal*Mart - for cleaning I got a bag for nylon stockings and put all the pieces in and put in the dishwasher - then when done - everything is all ready for the next time - just pull out the bag (No, I am not in advertising - just fun when one of these silly gimmicks work.
Permanent:
Here's what works for me.
Put eggs in pan of cold water to cover with a tsp or 2 of baking soda (read that on the Internet). Bring to a boil. As soon as the water is boiling rapidly, cover the pan and take it off the heat. Let it sit for 15 minutes then drain and dump eggs into a bowl with water and ice. The peels usually come off pretty well but there's always a stubborn one in the batch.
Tweet-le
Sorry, I missed that you also posted the baking soda trick.
These come in packages of 10 in the warehouse stores, sometimes with a coupon too:
http://www.egglandsbest.com/egg-products/hard-cooked-peeled-eggs.aspx
Permanent Name,
You may be consistently buying eggs and boiling them soon after purchase. Fresh eggs are notorious for being more difficult to boil and peel. Try buying a dozen and letting them sit in the frig for at least 2-3 weeks and then boil them. I think you'll notice a difference between the older, but still totally safe to eat, eggs and the ones you just purchased.
"As a rule, the fresher the egg, the more difficult it is to peel cleanly. The albumen (white) of a just-laid egg contains a store of dissolved carbon dioxide, a weak acid. (CO2 is what makes very fresh raw egg whites appear cloudy.) Over time, the gas exits the egg through thousands of tiny pores in the shell. As this happens, the pH of the white gradually increases, making it less acidic.
Why does acidity matter? The inner membrane of an egg—that translucent skin that envelopes the albumen—is made partly from a protein called keratin (also found in hair and nails), which is tougher in an acidic environment. At the lower pH of a fresh egg, the proteins in the egg white bind tightly to the keratin in the membrane during the cooking process, which makes it nearly impossible to remove the shell without chunks of white attached. Up the alkalinity, and the keratin softens, leading to a looser bond between the white and the membrane—which means hassle-free peeling."
http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2012/09/20/peeling_hardboiled_eggs_why_are_some_eggs_easier_to_peel_than_others_blame_carbon_dioxide_.html
For what it's worth. I let the water and eggs come to a full boil, then cover and turn off the heat, letting it sit there for about 15 minutes or so. I always put vinegar in the water...I don't know if that helps with peeling or not, but I've never had any problem with peeling, regardless if the eggs are fresh, or have been in the refrigerator for several days.
CHANGING SUBJECT: does anyone think Kate Gosselin has a day job or kids said "no more twitting"? It feels like kids are calling more of the shots with their mother either on their own or they get info from their dad. Something says that Kate has finally given up on another chance getting back on television!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Parent In Lancaster County said... 105
''For what it's worth. I let the water and eggs come to a full boil, then cover and turn off the heat, letting it sit there for about 15 minutes or so. I always put vinegar in the water.''
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I cook my eggs the same way. Boil, turn off heat, let sit 15 minutes....but have never used vinegar. I'll try that next time.
I am finding the science behind why it can be easier or harder to peel a hard boiled egg really interesting. Who knew all these fun facts!
Seriously, I love learning stuff like this. NO LIE!
Permanent Name in Blue said... 86
I was so happy (and sorry for you at the same time) to see this post. I'd almost given up hard-boiling eggs because of the damn shells. I'm going to use the "shaking" method next time.
I would love to know from everyone what has worked and what hasn't.
Sheesh...I love this blog. We came out of a gay-lesbian debate into cooking eggs. Who woulda thunk??
Parent In Lancaster County said... 105
For what it's worth. I let the water and eggs come to a full boil, then cover and turn off the heat, letting it sit there for about 15 minutes or so. I always put vinegar in the water...I don't know if that helps with peeling or not, but I've never had any problem with peeling, regardless if the eggs are fresh, or have been in the refrigerator for several days.
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I do the exact same thing -- adding on the tip to cover and shake the pan to crack the shells. Never had a problem!
Jane
JOY 108,
Me too! Love these little factoids - makes life fun...
Thanks MJ 104 for taking the time to research this!
MOM 106, changing subject - oh wouldn't it be nice if it were true!!!! I'd love it if she would just fade away into mediocre obscurity... I have to wonder if she has any tips on peeling eggs, having that chicken coop and all........
TUCKER'S MOM, I got the Lumere night cream with Vit. C - smells wonderful... will be trying it tonight. CVS didn't have the Freeman mask...
TUCKER'S MOM, I got the Lumere night cream with Vit. C - smells wonderful... will be trying it tonight. CVS didn't have the Freeman mask...
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I think it's the cloudberry that makes the Lumere work. But really, I have NO idea what the heck cloudberry is, but I do love a good slather of the stuff with my Vit. C serum.
I'm prone to redness and all of these products work without irritation.
Freeman can be hard to find but I think I got my last tube at Rite Aid.
Putting a 1/2tsp. Of baking soda in the water with the eggs before boiling makes peeling a breeze!
Can we please move on from the homosexual topic? This is a nice group of people and I enjoy reading here but some topics can bring out the "ugly" in all if us so we should practice just being nice.
Wowser said... 113
I think we already have. Done and done :)
Just checking in to say hi to everyone :-)
Hope your week is going well!
Today I visited Philly to see a good friend from college who recently moved there from Maryland (which is where I went to college). Haven't caught up with her in a while. Isn't that the best feeling when you reunite with an old friend and it feels like you just saw the person yesterday?
Not to sound corny at all, but friendship is such a beautiful thing (except when it's forced with your 12-year-old daughters, of course :))
Just wanted to share something that made me smile. Hope everyone is doing well.
I have the flu. It's not horribly bad (yet), but it's not fun. For those of you here you have been down with it, is it "normal" to be hotter than hades one minute and freezing the next? I get so cold I snuggle under the down comforters, and seconds later I just want to tear off my clothing and go running around the back yard just to get some air. It's not menopause, but if that's what THAT is like, I want no part of it!
The fever breaks, but then it comes back again. I hate this.
Kokomo, Cocktails And Dreams said... 116
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I'm so sorry you've got the flu, but yes, the temperature going up and down throughout the day is normal. I haven't had the flu/fever in so many years but I seem to remember my fever diminishing towards the evening.
Are you taking anything for the symptoms? Theraflu or anti viral?
I do celebrate love between 2 consenting adults. There is nothing deviant in that but some people are not accepting or comfortable with gays or lesbians. However, it is more and more widely acceptable, so if you refer to gays as "deviant" be prepared for disapproval. Society is changing. You can let your viewpoints broaden to accept change or narrow to refuse it but change will still come and leave those who won't/can't change behind.
Kate is a classic example of someone with a fixed viewpoint. She seems stuck in time. It serves her poorly.
Lilly, I'm with you. That's how I do my eggs. However, I learned from sister-in-law, who has chickens, that the fresh eggs are a pain to peel. A few summers ago, she gave us about 3 dozen eggs. Knowing I love hard boiled eggs, devilled eggs, etc., she told me to wait about a month before hard boiling them because otherwise the whites would come off with the peel. I was amazed that she said wait a month and asked her about it. She enlightened my about fresh eggs. She has chickens at her farm so we received eggs that she gathered the day before. However, she said the store bought eggs are sent to warehouses, some brands are "dyed" to make them that beautiful white color, and they are a few months old before they are shipped to the stores. That's why the expiration date is usually just a few weeks in advance of the date you buy them. My SIL said that the fresh eggs gathered will last 3-4 months in the fridge; they are that fresh!
So I only make hardboiled eggs with the eggs I buy at the store. When I get them from my SIL, I use them for other things.
Just my 2 cents worth!
Kokomo, I hope you feel better soon, hon. I had the stomach flu a month ago and it was miserable. Take care of yourself.
I'm so sorry you've got the flu, but yes, the temperature going up and down throughout the day is normal. I haven't had the flu/fever in so many years but I seem to remember my fever diminishing towards the evening.
Are you taking anything for the symptoms? Theraflu or anti viral?
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Thanks. This just isn't the fever going up and down, this is being so hot one minute that it's unbearable, to being freezing cold the next. I'm not taking anything, although I was reading about an OTC with black elderberry (Samucol) that's supposed to be good. I'm also having cravings for seafood, specifically crab stuffed anything, and normally I don't like seafood. Oh, my gosh, maybe I'm pregnant, or just watching too much Chef Ramsey. I hope it's just the flu! :)
Kokomo, Cocktails And Dreams said... 116
Sorry you have the flu Kokomo. I hear it's nasty. My daughter and son-in-law just got over it. Feel better soon.
So.
love has 'restrictions"
I say Flamose to youse who beleive that.
Been reading here 3+ years..dont like the turn it has taken, may not be back
Flamose
So I only make hardboiled eggs with the eggs I buy at the store. When I get them from my SIL, I use them for other things.
Just my 2 cents worth!
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I do the same. The farmers market eggs might be used for hard boiled after several weeks, but when fresh, I eat them poached, scrambled etc. I look forward to May when my favorite PA farmers brings his eggs down to VA. The yolks are deep golds and orange and get very creamy when scrambled.
Kokomo-- a yearning for crab I can totally relate too, but not when sick! That's a bit of an odd symptom, but stay hydrated and rest, rest, rest.
I got the flu during the holidays and I was cold and hot, feverish. Two days later I had big blisters all over my mouth. I can tell you I wasn't too good looking when they started to heal, I didn't go far for the holidays. Hogs to you Kokomo, get well soon and have somebody spoil you with chicken soup and crackers.
Franky, comment ça va, ne quitte pas, don't go anywhere, I love your quirky posts.
franky, I read what was going on this afternoon and I will ask please don't leave. The blog hasn't taken a turn, it was the opinion of one person. We'd miss you if you left!
merci ma belle bluebird
chus plus capable de lire le niaseries ici..pm moe.on se parlera
Franky, I'm with Bluebird and LoveMyGrandsons! All signs point to your being an intrepid person. It's not like you to be run off a blog by someone else's opinion, is it? Please stay. Plant both feet here, like you own the place. Because really? You kinda do. (Same goes for everyone with an open mind & heart.)
franky said... 123
Franky, please don't leave. This person who posted derogatory things about gays and lesbians was the only one except for Anonymous who is always too cowardly to post a real name.
I would miss you, terribly.
TxBR549 said... 15
I just wanted to add that my daughter still calls me 'Mommy'. She's in her 20's, expecting her first child.... A Girl!!!!!!!!!!
Have a great day everyone!
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My daughter is 33 and still calls me "Mommykins." Wonder what Kate's kids will call her when they are that age.
Working Woman said... 115
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I love that too about old friendships, true friends despite passage of time.Glad to hear about your smile :)
Kokomo, feel better soon. Did you have a flu shot? I wonder too if menopause will be as awful as that hot/cold business... (Love Gordon, too !)
D'accord Franky, mais ne quitte pas pour toujours, j'attend ton retour. LMG, Franky can't stand the banter that went on this afternoon. I've read through it, but abstain from commenting. I really do enjoy reading about egg shells and sending get well cheers for those who do not feel well around here.
Hogs to all!
I'm so sorry for your brother's passing- even if it happened years ago. I'm sure that he was a kind, loving, decent human being.
May your dear brother rest in peace, Permanent.
With love,
Pink
Hogs to you Kokomo, get well soon and have somebody spoil you with chicken soup and crackers.
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Thanks, guys -- I'll survive! I haven't had the flu for such a long time I forget what it's like. I wish I could rest. It's not going to happen. Why is it that when Dads are sick, they become totally dependent babies and need to be waited on hand and foot, but Moms are never allowed to be sick, and life goes on as usual? I just want to escape to the bedroom, hide under the covers, and come out in about a week or so, but it's not to be!
If only the seafood restaurant here had take-out delivery service! :)
Bluebird and franky, it has been 41 years since I took French in school and this is what I remember. Not sure if the spelling is correct, but have a good laugh anyway...
Un, deux, trois, quatre, cinque, six, sept, huit, neuf, dix.
Exuse moi, il faut que je te parte.
Il s'appelle Guy.
Mi casa su case, ooops! That's from our good friends next door! Lol!!
Permanent Name, I read your touching post about your brother. I'm so sorry for the loss of him in your life. Brother/sister relationships can truly be very special. God bless, hon.
Kokomo, Cocktails And Dreams said... 135
Hogs to you Kokomo, get well soon and have somebody spoil you with chicken soup and crackers.
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Thanks, guys -- I'll survive! I haven't had the flu for such a long time I forget what it's like. I wish I could rest. It's not going to happen. Why is it that when Dads are sick, they become totally dependent babies and need to be waited on hand and foot, but Moms are never allowed to be sick, and life goes on as usual? I just want to escape to the bedroom, hide under the covers, and come out in about a week or so, but it's not to be!
If only the seafood restaurant here had take-out delivery service! :)
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Take care of yourself, Kokomo.
Drink plenty of hot liquids.
The house, laundry, cooking, husband, kids etc... will have to wait.
Best wishes,
Pink
Oh LMG, that's so funny. I'm laughing with you and not at you. My mother was Irish and I went to an English school. Although I was taught French vocabulary, I only started speaking it when I met my DH when I was 18. That was 51 years ago. It's a hard language to learn.
Drink plenty of fluids Kokomo, there's not much else you can do but let it ride.
Franky, please stay.
We would all miss you.
I don't think anybody likes what was said this afternoon; I could be wrong, but I don't see it as a direction the blog is heading. This has never been a place for bigots before and I don't think it is now.
Je suis 1/2 une Canadienne Francaise et 1/2 Irlandaise.J'espere que je said that right as my French is awful!Please don't go....Who would stand up for the Highway of Heroes if you left?
Drink plenty of hot liquids.
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Oooohhhh!!! There's an idea. Hot rumspringa when I'm cold, ice cold rumspringa when I'm hot. Works for me!
Thanks, Pink!
Bluebird, you can laugh at me, heck, I am!! Glad you could decipher it because I wasn't sure!
Oh, Franky, don't go. I enjoy your posts. I can't always figure them out, but it's fun trying. I mean that in a good way!
ok, franky from montreal here..not florida CJ
good try though
I am Canadian and proud of it.
J have msny married ciusins..2 of them female with 2kids.
of mu 6 uncles..2 are gay..who gi
I am franky, and I am Canadian
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a shit?
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I think it would be sad to leave just because you disagree with one poster. And one who seems to be long gone now. This is how many people feel, I personally find it sad, but I'm not about to let it drive me away from my regularly scheduled programming. All that hurts is myself.
Certain things I will never comment about. Degree vs diploma, plastic surgery (don't care), and other commonly brought-up subjects.
However, when somebody offends my senses as Belle did this morning, I cannot stay silent.
That type of bigotry does exist and it makes me sad. I agree with Remona, she should stay in the closet with those opinions. They are hurtful and should be hidden from the general public, IMO.
Children KILL THEMSELVES. Enough hate. Let people be who they are or STFU.
LMG and Pink,
Thank you for your kind thoughts! I like to think that his passing left me a beautiful legacy of tolerance.
Franky,
Hey, don't you leave! We'd miss you and your phone posts. The stink today was bad, but consider the source and ignore it. If you leave, we'd all be sad.
Kokomo,
Hogs to you and your flu! Hope it goes quickly. Hmmm, seafood and the flu? I'm thinking you might want to reconsider that one - LOL... that creamy seafood dish my just reappear during the night. Clear fluids, jello, popsicles, teas... oh, and the ever healing saltine crackers.... yeah, that's the ticket!
LMG - donde esta la biblioteca? Tiene usted dolore? Donde esta su delore? Estudio espanol en la esquela secondario....
That's about it.... ha ha. I'm really good at pointing and facial expressions, though.
That one poster isn't a regular and is obviously a Kate fan.
might, not my.....
sorry
Idmodo
touche
and zi will always stand for our fallen.
they gave their life for us
yoi are right.
I will continue to stand against child exploitation
and on overpasses
While I know there are a variety of opinions on the issue I am very suspicious it was just an attempt to discredit Jodie with homophobic rhetoric. They fail to understand even those who may not agree with her lifestyle still can find value in the important things she had to say about her experience as a child star. One has absolutely nothing to do with the other. Just because Jodie is gay and you don't like it doesn't mean anything she says about anything else is discredited. Attack her comments not the person. It's confusion of the issues otherwise. I have not seen a single person able to refute what she said about the importance of privacy. They were solid comments and have vast credibility since she's a first hand source. I've never been a child star so I don't know how it feels. She does.
Permanent Name, no comprende Espanol, except Hola, mi casa su casa, a couple dirty words a friend of mine taught me in high school.
Gotta share this with all of you because it's funny. When we went by our neighbors for New Year's Eve dinner (they are Spanish), they had their daughter-in-law's mother and sister over. They are not Spanish. Our male neighbor introduced me to them and then said she is the crazy white lady that lives next door. I laughed so hard about that and then my hubs agreed and said yeah, she is crazy and I oughta know because I live with her!
Don't know why, just felt like sharing that because I still giggle about it.
Yesterday I went to a ranch of a friend. When I was leaving, I took a wrong turn and ended up on a different ranch where two rottweilers were barking and greeting me. Then these two dogs lead me to the main road.
It was adorable.
LMG,
Let me translate:
Where is the library?
Do you have pain?
Where is your pain?
I studied Spanish in high school.
That's all I remember, oh of course, except mi casa is su casa....
Love your story! Your neighbors sound fun....
Thanks for the translation, Permanent. And yes, my neighbors are fun; they are the best!
LOL - another Kardashian has come out of the woodwork - some guy says he's Kim K 3rd cousin and he's shopping around ideas for a reality show.
Wait, I need to laugh here....... hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Oh, and the one sister says she'll let her kids nurse from her sister Kim's boobs.
Such an uplifting story. Having a sister is truly a wonderful gift.... so much sh*t to talk to the tabloids about for a nice fat check....
I'm waiting for the "real" kardashians to slam a court order on the 'so-called 3rd cousin' to prevent him from using the famous kardashian name. Oh, the drivel from hollyweird is good for a giggle now and then.
And what the heck is going on in CA justice system with Lindsay Lohan?????? That girl needs a couple of years in JAIL. How can judges be giving her so, so, so many 2nd chances? How many charges is she facing now? Lying to the cops, her probation has been revoked, her car accident, the jewelry heist, the assault arrest in NY.....the tax liens, the lawsuit by the designer show for their furniture and fees...
I'm surprised her lawyer is still helping her after being fired and being owed over $300K.
I'm off to bed feeling ever so virtuous compared to the likes of lohan and kartrashian. Will cream up my non-criminal face with Tucker's face cream and settle in with a good book, confident once again that I am better than hard-boiled eggs. It's not me, it's THEM! LOL
I've really enjoyed the chat today, with the exception of two posters. You guys rock - it's a nice crew here.
LMG, I giggled along with you.
Penny, I'm with you, there are a few things I don't comment on, but that doesn't mean I don't read and lurk here.
Idmodo, I'm like you half French Canadian (Quebec) and half Irish.
Franky, I love the Highway of Heroes. Saw a procession once and it made me cry.
Now I know I talk about the funny things my GS (4 years old) says. So today: Father: What do you want for breakfast? GS: Cereal. Father: Did you forget to say something with that? GS: Oh yeah, with milk. Loll, but he usually does say please. Love my grandchildren.
Perm (I just got a bad one), I think those 2 posters were really just one.
Crazy white person..aka..LMG
I love you..bluebird and Idmodo
tjust wanted to say that
franky, I'm not the crazy white person, I'm the crazy white "lady"! You forgot the compliment he gave. Ha! Lol!!
Is it safe to come back here yet?
Yowza! What a day it was on this blog. I was staying far away.
Kokomo.....sorry about your flu. Being sick sucks! : (
HOGS to you and feel better soon!
From twitter:
Anna Bucy, Ed.D. @PreventBullying@shortnsaszy @bcolliesrgreat I cannot solve your issues. Conflict isn't bullying. I suggest you leave each other alone.
Sheep complain of being bullied (for years and years) but still refuse to have private accounts.
I know I am late to the egg party, but had to chime in.
Permanent Name, thank you for your post on hard boiled eggs. What a great idea - I am going start boiling a dozen eggs every week.
And your brother sounds wonderful! I'm sure he's missed so much by those who loved him.
and everyone already gave you good advice on HB eggs!
Sorry, OT- but just a reminder that PBS is broadcasting "The Abolitionists Pt 2" tonight.
:o)
I have Xfinity and I cannot find The Abolitionists. What channel is it on?
Now this is a sad story.
It just goes to show that some people have to respect for the veterans of this country.
I think you should do a post on this Admi.
http://www.cafemom.com/articles/in_the_news/148246/airline_humiliated_doubleamputee_marine_to?utm_medium=sem2&utm_campaign=prism&utm_source=outbrain&utm_content=0
Thanks for the welcoming words...
I'm not thru all the comments yet, but want to add my two cents. The issue of acceptance of gay relationships is not about sex--it is about love and families. If anyone here thinks that a straight lifestyle excludes 'deviant' acts, well, allI can say is "get your head out of the clouds"! How would those who are opposed to gay relationships like the children in these families to be treated? That is why I said that this is a civil rights issue. I am proud to come from a state in which the majority said NO! To discrimination and classes of people.
BTW, I have a girl crush on Remona.
Anna Bucy, Ed.D. @PreventBullying@shortnsaszy @bcolliesrgreat I cannot solve your issues. Conflict isn't bullying. I suggest you leave each other alone.
Sheep complain of being bullied (for years and years) but still refuse to have private accounts.
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Who is Anna Bucy and why is she involved in a twitter dispute? Don't non-fans also complain of bullying?
@deannatweeting: @SRitt32 OMG I am so sorry. They harass me too, but I have them all blocked. They target Kate all day and I guess me too bc we're friends.
How does Deanna know she's being harassed if she has the non-fans blocked?
Jane
The bullying to the non-fans isn't on Twitter (as far as I know).
Someone calling employers, posting names here and other threats are bullying.
Conflict on Twitter? Not bullying.
That woman is a Bully expert, I guess.
I have to work a little late tomorrow so I'm making tomorrow's dinner tonight. I have a scalloped potatoes and ham casserole in the oven and I'm on here while I'm waiting for it to finish cooking and then cool. Translation: I'm in a talkative mood while I'm waiting for tomorrow's dinner to get done. Is there anyone out there?
I imagine Kate is not harassed all day long either, not with her trigger finger on that block button - haven't seen her signature block the bullies and join our fun lately either. On the trash heap perhaps with her blog, her runs and the meat slicer.
Everyone is quiet, LMG!
I liked your story about the eggs being too fresh. In my former life, I managed the kitchen of a trendy restaurant. We bought all our eggs form a local ree range farmer. he was a great guy and ran his chicken farm the way his family had always done - he just increased the amount of chickens. Something he told me was that eggs don't have to be refrigerated. I suppose because they are so fresh. He was an amazing guy, I had the biggest crush on him (always had a thing for farmers) even though he was older and very meek and shy. He was so passionate about his chickens, too cute!
Oh lord did we go through eggs in that place! I'd crack 2 cases each for Saturday and Sunday brunch! That's 1440 eggs! I still love eggs.
Sorry, I need to proofread. That should read "all our eggs from a local free range farmer".
OT.... I saw the movie The Impossible today with Naomi Watts and Ewen McGregor. This is the true story of a family who survives the tsunami in Thailand. This is a story of love, strength and miracles and a film really worth seeing.
Love is love. That is where I weigh in on relationships between people. Sexual orientation is such a moot point.
Bearswife, I'm an egg lover, too. Hard boiled, devilled, but my favorite is going out for breakfast and having an omelette. Specifically a ham and cheddar cheese omelette with a few onions and some crispy hash brown potatoes on the side. Breakfast always taste better when someone else makes it!
Abolitionists is on PBS although are we already up to episode 3? My stupid TiVo didn't record anything last week.
Jumping In, thank you for the recommmendation about the movie. My favorite movies and books are based on real life. This is another movie I will have to add to my list along with Lincoln and the movie about the rescue of the hostages in Iran (don't remember the name).
WoooHooooo, I just found The Abolitionists! Thanks all and good night!
LMG, for many years I cooked breakfast and brunch at various places. Watched those poor souls line up on Saturdays and Sundays and wait. And wait. And wait. Last place I worked at, it was not uncommon to have a two hour wait on a Sunday morning. It was so popular, especially for celebs or sports stars who came to town. It was a lot of fun.
are the sheep bleating about us silly old ninnies blathering on about EGGS, of all things?! i hope so ;)
Ex nurse, yes I agree. It's always seemed hypocritical to me that some people are so vocal about this issue and yet if they call that a sin where is the outrage for all the other things people do that are sins? Cheating on taxes, having affairs, pre-marital sex, worshiping money and things. All these people walk into church every day and are received with open arms. You never see these people making signs about that nice young couple second row in church who moved in together 6 months ago to try things out before marriage. It just seems if you're going to insert yourself into people's private lives it needs to be EVERYTHING not just picking and choosing what you want a say in. It's all or nothing.
Personally, I am far more horrified about some of the things described in 50 Shades of Gray and far more concerned about heteros, IF that's what we're really up to! LOL. Bottom line though, I have every right to be horrified about 50 Shades but NO right to tell people who chose to do those things that they can't. You can do it, and I can be horrified, and we can all be friends.
Jumping In thanks for the mini review, it is on my list! Those kind of movies can be hit and miss so glad to hear it.
Beasts of the Southern Wild was okay, though not my kind of movie. But it is worth it to see the little girl's performance, she is a real wonder at age 5.
I don't think I could be friends with someone who disliked gay people. I could be polite, I suppose, but never friends.
I fully admit that some of you are better people than I am.
Abolitionists is on PBS although are we already up to episode 3? My stupid TiVo didn't record anything last week.
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I missed Part I, but watched tonight. I am so glad I did. This was excellent. Way back when, I opted to do a senior seminar research paper on the authenticity of "Narrative of the Life of Frederick Douglass," and his relationship with William Lloyd Garrison. I was surprised at how much I remembered.
Thanks, Pink, for the reminder! I owe you! :)
Thanks, Admin, for letting me know it was on PBS.
Bearswife, when the hubs and I were first married years ago, we live in an apartment across from a little breakfast place. On the weekends, especially Sundays, we could see the line outside of the restaurant that stretched to the parking lot. They were known for their omelettes and I can tell you from experience, they were delicious! When we went there, it was at least a one hour wait until you were served breakfast. However, because my hubs always got up early (and he still does), he would call in an order when the place first opened, and then he would pick it up. We have breakfast together in our small little garden apartment with our daughter, who was only a few months old. Those were the first times she had omelettes. (I always took out the onions, but she loved the ham and cheese and still does to this day!)
I think you'd be surprised how many people hold opinions you would be horrified at. It's one thing to hold the opinions, it's quite another to act on them. I couldn't be friends with people who discriminate, but I can be friends with people who hold a variety of viewpoints, but keep it to themselves and don't insert their views into the equation or try to hurt others with them. To me there is a huge difference between believing that homosexuality is a sin, and doing something to act on that belief like making others feel bad or discriminating. No different than believing having an affair is a sin, but then trying to ostracize a family going through it. You can hold all the personal feelings you want, but don't interfere in people's lives to do so. Many people who believe it is a sin still support rights.
I guess we skipped an episode of the Abolitionists last week? That's good I guess, means I didn't miss anything!
Anyway I'll be ready to discuss as soon as it airs on this coast! I love this.
Admin #187, Amen.
I had the biggest crush on him (always had a thing for farmers) even though he was older and very meek and shy. He was so passionate about his chickens, too cute!
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But was he passionate about you? Was this before or after Bear? :)
LMG, what a cute story about your hubs and the take away omelettes.
Blowing in the Wind, pre-Bear by a number of years. My feelings were unreciprocated. Chicken farmer had a lovely wife and adorable children. sweet guy.
It's nice to see a professional explain that grown adults bickering over whether a grown reality star sucks or not is not "bullying".
but I can be friends with people who hold a variety of viewpoints, but keep it to themselves and don't insert their views into the equation
To me, having a friendship means not having to watch what you say to people.
I choose my friends pretty carefully. I could WORK with someone who has opposing viewpoints but then I wouldn't call them a friend. I'd call them a co-worker.
I guess we skipped an episode of the Abolitionists last week? That's good I guess, means I didn't miss anything!
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It's a three-part series. They're showing Part II again at 2 a.m. (eastern)...for those with insomnia. I'd really like to see the first part. I missed Death and the Civil War. I really would have liked to have seen that one, too. Darn.
Interesting. I'm not sure I've ever been able to find someone who thinks exactly like I do on every single thing, even every single important thing. I like having people who think differently than me. It sharpens me. What does youth have to do with this? You either prefer to be around people just like you or your prefer a bit of variety, it's not a "youth" thing.
Blowing In The Wind said... 169
''Who is Anna Bucy and why is she involved in a twitter dispute?
Don't non-fans also complain of bullying?''
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Google says Anna Bucy is: Anna Bucy, Ed.D. @PreventBullying. Bullying
expert, humanist, researcher, public speaker, community organizer, and
educator.
One of KK's most rabid fans involved Anna Bucy by twittering that she
(the KK fan) was being bullied. The person accused of being a bully
also followed Anna Bucy to explain that she didn't like KK. It didn't
take very long at all for Anna Bucy to figure out what was going on,
and she twittered : ''Anna Bucy, Ed.D. @PreventBullying@shortnsaszy
@bcolliesrgreat I cannot solve your issues. Conflict isn't bullying. I
suggest you leave each other alone.''
^^^^I have no idea why my comment is spaced that way!
miloandjack
@Kateplusmy8 Girl, I've known U 2b busy b4...but 2013 has been obscene! Ur running around w/way 2much 2do! Hoping this is a good sign! :)
miloandjack
@Kateplusmy8 Whatever the case...U just know that U are missed so very much! When ur here...this line thrives & comes alive! :)
Her song tonight:
Every time I think of you
I always catch my breath
And I'm still standing here and you're miles away
And I'm wondering why you left
And there's a storm that's raging
Through my frozen heart tonight
I hear your name in certain circles
And it always makes me smile
There's a message in the wire
And I'm sending you this signal tonight.
You don't know how desperate I've become
And it looks like I'm losing this fight.
In your world I have no meaning
Though I'm trying hard to understand
I spend my time thinking about you
And it's almost driving me wild
One of KK's most rabid fans involved Anna Bucy by twittering that she
(the KK fan) was being bullied. The person accused of being a bully
also followed Anna Bucy to explain that she didn't like KK. It didn't
take very long at all for Anna Bucy to figure out what was going on,
and she twittered : ''Anna Bucy, Ed.D. @PreventBullying@shortnsaszy
@bcolliesrgreat I cannot solve your issues. Conflict isn't bullying. I
suggest you leave each other alone.''
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I'm curious - did the Sheeple respond to that?
Heide said... 199
''I'm curious - did the Sheeple respond to that?''
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Her account is private. The accused person's twitter (not a Sheeple) is where I read it, since the comment was sent to both.
Twittering and Twattering ~ Those tweets from Milo seem to suggest she's less "in the know" than she likes to let on. Kate's not feeding her constant curiosity as to her whereabouts, and that seems to be frustrating Milo to the point of heightened anxiety. I'd be very nervous about the tone of those tweets, if I were Kate.
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