Thanks to one young woman's random encounter with Jon Gosselin, we now are privileged to know the story of this inspiring Berks County resident as she battles cancer. Megan, age 24, was diagnosed with lymphoma over a year ago and has been in treatments ever since. Her empowering music video homemade at the hospital, with Kelly Clarkson belting out lyrics like "You didn't think that I'd come back, I'd come back swinging," in the background, is a Youtube sensation.
Megan's treatments have caused a great deal of pain, and stomach symptoms. She couldn't eat a thing over the holidays this year. But her appetite has been better recently, and on Saturday when she felt well enough to grab some fast food, she bumped into Jon Gosselin at a Chick-fil-A. Jon posed for not just one photo but two, and Megan proudly posted them on her Facebook account. The photos generated over 1,800 likes and 233 comments, mostly from friends happy to see her smiling again.
The Reading Eagle has been documenting her story, which can be found here. Megan speaks frankly about her situation to the publication, from being devastated at not having enough time to harvest her eggs should treatments make her infertile, to her fears at not being able to beat her disease. "I'm not embarrassed," Megan said. "I want people to know the truth about what's going on."
Wishing you good health, Megan.
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 400 of 1209 Newer› Newest»Anon, I beg to differ.
Jon doesn't have the best record in the truth telling department. He and Kate were well suited in that.
As to pictures telling the truth? It's easy-peezy to take and post pictures that fit your agenda. Don't you think the Gosselin kids have been trained from birth to act for the camera?
The pictures I find offensive are the ones of Liz and Jon partying, drinking and her smoking. She presents herself as a hard woman with easy morals. There's a cheapness about her and very little polish, imo.
There were a couple of photos posted on Twitter of Jon and Liz with all the kids at a yogurt shop. The younger kids were all sitting in a booth together hanging out. They all looked so cute together and looked like they were having fun. The older girls were sitting at a table with Jon and Liz. Looked normal and comfortable together. It was nice to see. Except that we really shouldn't be seeing those pics... But it was nice to know Jon takes them out and they live normal lives when they are with him.
Once the kids do start searching the internet can you image what they are going to think?
They are going to find out how much their mother is hated and how much of a lair she is.
They are going to find about things about Jon as well.
I feel bad for those 8 kids they never had a chance.
chefsummer, those kids are going to find some crazy and unfair and extremely hurtful things said about THEM, especially Mady!
Kids are pretty self centered. I doubt they care enough to google their parents at this point.
I think the problems will come later, and they'll learn a lot about the shameful exploits of both parents.
June,
While I personally can't stab cigarette smoking Liz is an adult. As long as he isn't smoking near the children why pick on that? As for "partying" what is that supposed to mean? Adults can't go to a party? Can't drink alcohol? How do you know they didn't have one drink? Or drank responsibly? I don't understand judging a woman because she had a drink in her hand when she posed for a picture.
For some reason, I can't get to the TMZ website. It's not pulling up. Is this a Federal tax lien, or a lien due to nonpayment of state taxes?
Harvey is an attorney. You'd think he'd know better than to have his group publish a SS number.
June,
I am a US citizen and a permanent resident (green card holder) in Canada. I have experienced both sides of the coin.
What you are saying is horribly offensive. Please take it elsewhere.
Chefsummer, I can't remember what the interview was but if I recall correctly, Kate made a comment once about how she doesn't allow the kids to search the internet because of all the stuff out there about Jon.
Fair enough, there is stuff about him. But, as you said, there is ALSO stuff about. Probably worse stuff about her. Is she not concerned about her kids finding that, or does she just pretend that everyone thinks she is perfect and that the negativity out there about her doesn't exist?
RE what Jon said about his kids getting along with Liz's, there is no way for any of us to know for sure. I sure hope it's true that they do get along and that everyone is as happy with the situation as possible.
I don't know Liz personally but "a hard woman with easy morals"? Sounds like a stretch.
Wow. What a judgmental thing to say. An asset to what or whom? Sleazy? How so? Do you know Liz, her background, her personality, how she parents, her friends, her social life? Does anyone here have insight into her private life that would qualify them to form such an opinion?
Winter, Liz's actions, choices, photos etc. paint an ugly portrait of a desperate fame ho.
She chose to do the tv thing with Jon. She posted pictures that make her look like a partying drunk. She used the Gosselin children's pictures to garner attention to herself. She acts with the maturity of a middle schooler on twitter. How much more does one need to form an opinion? One can surmise a lot from what's she's shown us.
Sorry. "Stab" should have read "stand" cigarette smoking.
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TxBR549 said... 131
I went back to the certified copy of the document re: lien. When first posted, it showed a SNN, now that has been redacted.
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I saw the now redacted social security number posted as well.
I shudder to think what could happen if that was indeed Jon's ssn.
Be afraid, Jon.
Be very afraid.
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The h post @169 was me, handinhand.
TMZ posted that story at 12:30 am pst and I read it 7:20 am est so it was up for several hours. I was alerted to the ssn when a commenter mentioned it on the first page of that TMZ story. Many of us have read the stories of what Kate's sycophants have done to 'the haters' and that coupled with just the general dangers of that information available for public consumption would have me very worried if I were Jon.
handinhand#stillreelingfromNDshellacking
My apologies, ladies, for posting about a topic that we were asked to drop. I was playing catch up here on my break and posted before I saw that request. Sorry.
I agree that the 8-year-old tups are probably too young to be interested in searching for themselves or their parents on Google.
But Cara and Mady are almost teenagers. When I was that age, I would have been fascinated by the very fact that my name and my parents names were so out there.
From what I remember about being that age, it is very common to care a lot what others think about you. Although I hope they do not, I would not be surprised by the idea of Mady and Cara searching for themselves or their parents to see what people have said.
There are several Youtube videos that have horrible comments posted by viewers about Mady and her behavior. And the comments are in the present tense, like "Mady IS ...", not even "Mady WAS..." I'm not even going to finish that kind of comment, as I always thought she was a bright, wonderful girl.
It's heartbreaking to think about how finding that kind of stuff would affect a girl that age. And how she would feel knowing that that is how some people still see her, even though she was 6 and 7 years old at the time.
June said... 1
Anon, I beg to differ.
As to pictures telling the truth? It's easy-peezy to take and post pictures that fit your agenda. Don't you think the Gosselin kids have been trained from birth to act for the camera?
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In that case.
Why do the kids all most all ways look nervous /scared/unhappy not smiling while with Kate?
I mean come on now..
Would the same smiles be with Kate as they are with Jon?
@June, sorry honey, but I think you just "outed" yourself with those last comments about Liz - those are standard sheeple comments with regards to Liz. Why muddy this wonderful post with your droppings?
I think we can move on from the Jon/Liz conversation. How 'bout it?
June said... 5
Okay say it's one of the mean or jealous kids at school with an Iphone.
With if they point "well at least my mom doesn't do this or say this about me or my dad"
Anything is possible.
SchmeckyGirl, it's not that an adult can't have a drink.
It's the way you choose to present yourself to the world via social media.
Liz thought the photos were fine which makes you wonder if that's her best self.
We can agree to disagree :)
You might have friends like that, but I wouldn't allow someone like her to ever be around my children.
The kids will find out about their parents.
It's just a matter of when and how they will find out.
Parent In Lancaster County said... 7
For some reason, I can't get to the TMZ website. It's not pulling up. Is this a Federal tax lien, or a lien due to nonpayment of state taxes?
Harvey is an attorney. You'd think he'd know better than to have his group publish a SS number.
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It is a State of Pa. document and like you, I cannot get over the fact that TMZ posted his SSN. I am not a lawyer, but I think this could cause a world of hurt for TMZ. Not to forget more improtantly the harm that can be done to Jon.
TMZ can redact all they want to, but the original pic is out there. I have a screen shot of it.
I hope that TMZ pays dearly for their 'oversight' and that the source of the document is outed!!!!
If Theumpiestpath is right in saying that Milo sounds confused and tired, maybe s/he's realized something deeply disappointing about Kate. Related to the abortion conversation, maybe?
So, what did everyone think about the Academy Award nominations this morning? Apparently Lincoln and Les Miz ruled! I haven't seen both, but can't wait. I saw "The Hobbit" this past weekend. I loved the LOTR Triology and didn't think anything could top it, but I have to say I did enjoy The Hobbit.
Paula, so excited for the Oscars this year@
LEO GOT SNUBBED. Like always :-(
He was so amazing in Djano.
I think it's a damn shame that a lovely lady, struggling with cancer has a good day, posts a picture on FB of her and Jon and all hell breaks loose on blogs and twitter with ugly name calling and all the usual unfounded speculation and worst of all Jon's SSN being posted on a piece of sh*t gossip rag. Damn!!!!
June said... 189
''That's assuming he isn't using these women as unpaid babysitters.''
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Oh June......you were doing so well, but just couldn't resists sliding that knife into the back, could you?
June said... 19
How about a grown man taking food for a child?
June,
You are completely within your right to have a different opinion on Liz.
None of us know her personally to say what she is like for sure. We are only going to form opinions based on how we interpret what we see of her.
All I'm concerned about is whether or not she treats Jon's kids like they deserve to be treated. Aside from that, she can live her personal life as she chooses as long as she is not putting anyone in danger.
IDModo good luck with your treatments and I pray that everything will work as it should.
To all of our Canadian friends, I think that Anonymous has finally picked a name (for the healthcare discussion at least) and that name is June.
I don't know much about Liz but I admire her moxy for standing up to Kate when they had that little scuffle on twitter. It probably wasn't their first or last one either. Kate doesn't get along with anyone unless there's something in it for her. Apparently Liz has nothing to offer. Besides I think Kate resents any woman who's with her ex.
Maybe Liz is someone who refuses to take crap from her. That's brownie points in my book.
Ha. June said "You might have friends like that, but I wouldn't allow someone like her to ever be around my children.
And with that you just proved to me you are a sheeple and just here to stir the pot. Sheeple always end their comments to me with a jab.
Yes. I have friends that drink socially, even have a photo taken of them with a drink in their hand, and I would trust them with my life and with my children.
Auntie Ann,
Agreed.
Goodness, people.
One doesn't have to be a sheeple to have problems with Jon or think his girfriend is low brow.
I do agree that this thread has gotten off track, and that's a shame.
Trained from birth to act for the camera? I guess we were watching different shows and have seen different photos. Was Mady trained to cry in that one pic taken in Alaska? Just one example. I'm done. I refuse to engage a sheeple.
June said... 19
You might have friends like that, but I wouldn't allow someone like her to ever be around my children.
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You're joking, right? There's no one in your family or among your friends who has a drink socially, maybe had photos taken at a party, wedding, social event, smokes? These days many people post these pics on Twitter and Facebook to share w/ family and friends. There are several people in my family who both have a drink now and then and smoke and sometimes share party photos and I would, in a heartbeat, leave my children with them.
Go back to the pen.
AuntieAnn said... 30
I don't know much about Liz but I admire her moxy for standing up to Kate when they had that little scuffle on twitter. It probably wasn't their first or last one either. Kate doesn't get along with anyone unless there's something in it for her. Apparently Liz has nothing to offer. Besides I think Kate resents any woman who's with her ex.
Maybe Liz is someone who refuses to take crap from her. That's brownie points in my book.
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Anyone who has the guts to stand up to Kate publicly has my vote.
Wait. Is "June" new here?
Seems I'm not the only one wary of her. If she's new why did she call me SchmeckyGirl? I only posted as SG and haven't posted here in quite some time.
Are we pilgrims now? Give us a break, June. You wouldn't allow social drinkers around your kids? Are you aware that almost three quarters of Americans are social drinkers? You aren't going to allow three quarters of people around your kids? Ha! Are you also aware that the more educated you are and the more money you make the more likely you are to be a social drinker? I think you just insulted many people here.
SG said... 37
''Wait. Is "June" new here?''
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Yes. ''June'' is new to this blog....well, new as far as her name goes. ''June'' and her nasty comments about Jon and Liz have been here many times, under other names...or as ''anonymous''
Yep, I'm beginning to think that "June" may possibly be one of the usual trolls, now trying a new tactic.
They can never help but give themselves away at some point.
Maybe June fed that story to TMZ after it bugged her a sweet young woman was happy to take a photo with Jon. June, why are a private citizen's finances any of your business?
My sheepdar went up on "June's" first post. "June" hurled an insult which is the standard m.o. for the sheeple.
What I don't get is why TMZ would think that anyone would care, other than the 6 or so nutcases that follow Kate, that Jon has a tax lien? Seriously...so not interesting.
Are there ANY clever sheeple out there?
HAHA So obvious SG, isn't it?
Me thinks I smell some droppings...
Not trying to control what we discuss at all, but this is a truly lovely post, lets not fight and accuse. June has a different opinion on Liz and Jon, that's all we know :-)
And it's okay for opinions to differ as long as it is respectful.
So, Paula earlier asked about the Oscars, what are everyone's thoughts??? Predictions?
I still can't believe Leonardo DiCaprio didn't get nomincated for Best Supporting Actor.
I have several co-workers that saw Django Unchained and they raved about Leo's performance.
"One doesn't have to be a sheeple to have problems with Jon or think his girfriend is low brow."
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I have a problem with posters who s##t-stir by calling people names when they have absolutely no knowledge of that person, who she is, what she does, and has remained relatively private. Those are sheeple tactics, and regardless if that person is a sheeple, they share the same MO.
"I do agree that this thread has gotten off track, and that's a shame."
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If it's gotten off track, you can pat yourself on the back for doing so.
Paula he was wonderful. Just wonderful. Christopher Waltz was good was well but he played a very similar role in Inglorious Basterds (by the way, just saw that movie....amazing!) For Leo, this was something new and different. And he was brilliant.
Working Woman,
It's lovely what you are trying to do. Much appreciated. But June is a sheeple.
Well.....I hope that Megan is enjoying a good day!
Wild party? Hardly. June if you take issue with grown adults sitting around at some publicity event you must lead a sheltered life. Have you ever been to the big city? We do more than play bingo here, not that that's not fun too.
Kate trying her grifting power on LOWES. Since shes been there 4-days in a roll. Kate even says which one; Sinking Springs. Wonder if Lowes will "bite"....................LOL
Wonder if Kate helps Jon again? Kate says she gave Jon the old BBB, stopped his child support payments and allowing more visitations with HIS kids?????
Maybe she is hoping to get a pap to wait at Lowes for her.
Looks like Kate is back to 125,000 followers.
Guess she been buying followers again-(allegedly).
Paula said... 46
I have several co-workers that saw Django Unchained and they raved about Leo's performance.
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Was thinking of seeing it this weekend - toss-up between that and Les Miserables!
If it's a State of Pennsylvania lien (PA Dept of Revenue) then why is TMZ reporting it as a Federal Tax lien (IRS...Uncle Sam)?
lowbrow - a person who is uninterested, uninvolved, or uneducated in intellectual activities or pursuits.
If anyone fits the definition of a lowbrow, it would be Kate.
Moving on now...
All This Is That said... 56
If it's a State of Pennsylvania lien (PA Dept of Revenue) then why is TMZ reporting it as a Federal Tax lien (IRS...Uncle Sam)?
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Because the folks at TMZ are idiots.
Sorry didn't finish that. Shirlene was the one I thought said she was a CPA. Roll call is she still around?
It is a State of Pa. document and like you, I cannot get over the fact that TMZ posted his SSN. I am not a lawyer, but I think this could cause a world of hurt for TMZ. Not to forget more improtantly the harm that can be done to Jon.
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Thanks, Tx. I was able to access the document. That's not from the feds. From what I can tell, it's a lien placed by the state for delinquent state taxes. So not only did TMZ publish his social security number, but apparently has reported that Jon's in trouble with the IRS when it's actually a state lien.
I think they're going to have some 'splaining to do.
June, guess you don't want Kate around your kids, then. She's been seen on national TV having a drink, drunk, and getting her foot licked by a stranger in a bar. That makes her "low brow" too. Hi Auntie Ann ;-) .
I have no desire to see "Django Unchained" and I'm not a DiCaprio fan, so it doesn't bother me to see him passed over for an Oscar nomination. I'm so happy to see that little girl from "Beasts of the Southern Wild" get a nomination. I'm not even going to attempt to spell her name, but she was amazing. If you haven't seen that movie look for it. Superb. Someone wondered on here a few weeks ago whatever happened to Joaquin Phoenix. Well, he was nominated for an Oscar, that's what's happened to him. Also a BAFTA (Brit. Academy Award). And no, not a fan. It'll be interesting to see how the awards shake out. Some excellent films this past year.
Border Collie -- I think we need your herding skills to head the sheeple back to her pen.
First, I want to tell you IDModo how sorry I am that I was so selfish and did not wish you well in your battle with cancer! That is much more important than an animal. I guess my 'cold kateness' was showing. Thanks to all who have said the nicest things to me about the tiny Yorkie who died last night, you all have such huge hearts, and are just the kindest, sweetest people. It has really helped to read all of your well wishes:)
About Canada and health care here, I have tons of experience, and have always been given the best of care. When my daughter had cancer, she spent 19 months in hospitals in Saskatoon, fighting it.She did not win that fight, but she got the best care possible, I never had a bad thing to say about them. When I was in the hospitals in Saskatoon, for 15 long weeks, I also got nothing but great care, from all medical stafff. Our family was very lucky.
You go IDModo! I will keep you in my prayers.
I don't quite understand how Jon apparently has no money but yet Kate obviously has a substantial amount of money to be able to live this lavish lifestyle with an expensive house, private school tuition, hired help? Time will tell how long she can sustain it especially with no job or means of support. Of course we don't know what has gone on but it seems like the financial split wasn't very equitable. I feel bad for Jon. I think he seems like a good guy who got caught up with the celebrity lifestyle and made some stupid decisions. I think it's sad what has happened to him.
Readerlady 61 said..
guess you don't want Kate around your kids, then. She's been seen on national TV having a drink, drunk, and getting her foot licked by a stranger in a bar. That makes her "low brow" too. Hi Auntie Ann ;-) .
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I am STILL laughing.
*snort*
thanks for the laugh!!!
readerlady said... 61
June, guess you don't want Kate around your kids, then. She's been seen on national TV having a drink, drunk, and getting her foot licked by a stranger in a bar. That makes her "low brow" too. Hi Auntie Ann ;-) .
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There ya' go, June!
Maybe Jon isn't willing to dip into the kids' money to pay bills. Kate is probably.
Dog Lover -- One thing that Yorkie's owner did right was finding a loving and caring person to care for it during its final illness. Whether the original person did a selfish thing or an unselfish thing, I won't judge. There may have been other circumstances that prevented him/her from providing the care needed. Bless you for being there to take up the slack and provide caring and comfort and love as that little doggy crossed the Bridge.
IDModo -- I've neglected to welcome you back and I apologize for that. I'm glad you are back and posting and that you are doing so well now. Blessings and prayers for your continued recovery.
Jon was sued by TLC for breech of contract. That's how he lost all of his money. He nearly went bankrupt. TLC sucked the life and his finances out of him. They are nothing more than modern day robber barons and side show promoters.
Question to TMZ would be: Did you actually write and print this story which is wrong and shows an individual's SSN? Or did TMZ receive the story and posted it without reviewing?
Either way it's wrong and something a sleazy gossip site would do.
Anonymous 68 was me. I was too lazy to log in and wanted to post right away.
I can't get over posting someone's social security number and then accusing them of having an IRS issue when they don't. If this was someone like Brad and Angelina it would be an international scandal but because it's just dopey old Jon apparently we are the only ones with enough sense to be outraged.
I am going to ask something stupid. How did TMZ get a copy of his statement?
He and whats-her-name were married for most of 2009, but there were probably business/corporation income tax returns, etc,--perhaps they filed married but separately?
Or, did whats-her-name pay her back taxes?
I'd like to know why they'd publish a document like that. It's one thing to say so-and-so got a tatt or a nose ring, it's another thing to publish someone's financials like that.
TMZ has hit an all-time low. I guess it is possible to be worse than the national enquirer.
emschick -- I suspect Jon was either persuaded or forced to relinquish most of the money "for the children" (translation: so KK can maintain the lifestyle she's become enamored of).
I personally hope Jon sues the pants off TMZ and makes buckets of money from them. They are trash and he deserves to have some money after what that thing did to him while married and since.
Dang, I hope Jon spouts whats-her-name's favorite words, concerning posting his ss#.
CAN WE SUE?
He needs to sue TMZ! I would.
I hope he gets 10 times, 50 times what he needs to pay off this bill, if he hasn't already.
Tam, who posts at Preesi's, posted the following. (Tam, I hope you don't mind I brought it over here, but I have no way of contacting you to ask permission. Just hoping a fellow Northeast Ohioan wouldn't mind.)
"Just got off the phone with a woman in the lien department of the Berk's County Prothonotary.
'I KNEW THIS WOULD COME BACK TO HAUNT US', she said.
I informed her that Jon's SS# was all over the internet.
WONDER WHO IN BERK'S COUNTY PROTHONOTARY'S OFFICE FAXED THE LIEN ON JAN. 9, 2013 at 12:44PM TO TMZ?"
PatK said... 76
WONDER WHO IN BERK'S COUNTY PROTHONOTARY'S OFFICE FAXED THE LIEN ON JAN. 9, 2013 at 12:44PM TO TMZ?"
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I thought this info was public record? It might not have been someone in the prothonotary's office. If so, anyone (including sheeple who've done so before) can find it and send it on to TMZ, Radar, any of the rags who'd have an interest. Or Kate could have it and tell one of her fans or 'friends' to do so.
On the other hand, it could be someone in that office out to make a quick buck.
Oy. The plot thickens.
OK on duty looking for the sheeple, and this time I get to bite. It's a last resort, but allowed.
emschick1128 said... 63
I don't quite understand how Jon apparently has no money but yet Kate obviously has a substantial amount of money to be able to live this lavish lifestyle with an expensive house, private school tuition, hired help? Time will tell how long she can sustain it especially with no job or means of support.
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None of it makes sense. Kate keeps saying she didn't make nearly as much as was reported ($5 million or whatever the amount was). So, taking into account that she could be lying (who? Kate? naaaa) I don't see how she'll be able to survive on that no matter what her "good investments" are. Money runs through her fingers like shit through a goose. It can't last forever. If she CAN keep living the way she does, I wish she'd share WHERE she invested all the money. ha!
Auntie Ann 80 said
Money runs through her fingers like shit through a goose.
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I have never heard that phrase.
OMG, I am laughing so hard.
hahhahhaaahhaha
ReaderLady had a good one earlier today,too.
You ladies are hilarious.
But come on, I'm sure she's smart with her money. Remember all of those savvy saving tips she shared on Coupon Cabin?
.........................(crickets)
If she CAN keep living the way she does, I wish she'd share WHERE she invested all the money. ha!
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Or at least give us the name of her financial consultant!
Border Collie said... 79
OK on duty looking for the sheeple, and this time I get to bite. It's a last resort, but allowed.
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Are you up to date on all of your shots in case one of them bites back?
Fleecing, perhaps Liar, Abuser, Grifter & Asses
IDModo, best wishes and positive thoughts going your way. Have you tried meditation while dealing with your health issues? Many years ago I did and found it tremendously helpful.
Dog lover, I was so touched by your post about that little dog and how lucky she was to have you step up to the plate.
What kind of person publicizes someone's personal financial information? I do hope Jon's attorney takes care of this.
Fleecing The Sheeple said... 83
Or at least give us the name of her financial consultant!
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Yep. Someone must have given her good advice. I don't think she'd manage to find out on her own.
aggiemom - kind of nasty, I know. But so is Kate, lol!
Oh Aggiesmom......81: you beat me to it! Shit through a goose!!
Bahahahahahahahahaha!!!
The visual in my head is priceless!
Thanks for the laugh, Auntie!!
Remember Jon spent at least $60,000 on rent in New York and bought several cars during 2009 before they were divorced. He also took Haley to France on a trip. The point is Jon spent big time during that year.
Also Kate made $250,000 per episode of Kate Plus 8 that Jon did not make. That was multi-millions Kate made that Jon did not. I believe this figure because TV guide reported it and it makes sense. TLC made hundreds of millions off of them for many years yet their pay per season were not much at all. In fact for their last 2 seasons of Jon and Kate Plus 8 they only earned $22,000 per episode. That was peanuts. So I bet Kate rightfully hit them hard with the $250,000 salary per episode and TLC agreed. And remember that Kate Plus 8 was originally only suppose to be a few times a year specials. That is not the way it turned out.
Also Kate made $500,000 for DWTS that Jon did not.
And Kate had income for 3 books. Yes, Jon should have gotten half of the royalties from Multiply Blessings but we heard Jon ask Kate on national tv where was the million from that book that she was hiding. But Kate also received monies from 2 other books that Jon did not. Remember her advance was $100,000 for Multiply Blessings so we can only guess her advances for her other books were great too even though they didn't sell well.
Also, Kate received $20,000 per month in child support that was mandated and put away so Jon could not touch it in the divorce settlement. We don't know how long he paid the $20,000 per month but I am sure it sucked him dry and padded Kate's wallet big time.
Also Jon was sued by TLC and paid big time for divore lawyers, TLC lawsuit lawyers, and child issues lawyers.
Finally Kate was 100% in control of all the money up until their divorce. I bet she stashed some away without Jon even knowing about it. But if so, then it was his fault. He should have been just as involved with the money as she was. It was afterall both of theirs.
So, that is how Kate is a multi-millionaire today and Jon is probably in the poorhouse.
Autie Anne, I agree! I wish she would share her tips! I actually have to work for a living and watch my money to support my kids. I must be doing something wrong
Anonymous said... 89
''Finally Kate was 100% in control of all the money up until their divorce. I bet she stashed some away without Jon even knowing about it. But if so, then it was his fault. ''
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So, your bottom line is that it is ALL JON'S FAULT. Thanks for giving your two cents worth, KK's sheeple!!
Anonymous, 89...I kinda' hope you are Robert and you are still around.
Until today, when work finally slowed down, I haven't been around much but it seems like 'Kate is a Twit' hasn't been here. Hope she's okay and will check-in soon.
Kate has a Havard graduate (Julie May) on her side and has been (or was) her manager for probably 5 or so years. So yes, Kate has been getting excellent sound advice and guidance.
ALso, Kate was paid big time for all those People covers and photos rights that went with those magazines. And I wonder how much (besides People) Kate made for all the other magazine covers and photo rights through the years. We know she probably still sells photos for cash to this date.
Kate is and has been financially smart through the years. She has sucked every penny from every opportunity with her Havard manager looking through all her contracts before she commits to something.
One other thing, Kate had a contract with Coupon Cabin. Maybe she was paid very big bucks for it. She wasn't paid just to write a stupid blog. She was paid to promote them on national tv programs. And Kate did go on a lot tv shows and mentioned them.
ALso, she probably had a contract with Rock and Roll marathon to promote. Yes, she did a poor job but was probably paid a nice sum for it.
Anonymous ( Kate. Is that you???)......89:
Behind every single example you give of 'Kate's $' are 8 small children who are SOLEY responsible for earning it. Every. Single. Dime. from the exploitation of THEIR childhood. Kreider earned nothing on her own....except her horrible reputation.
Anonymous, I do not believe she had a contract with RnR. Those events fill up with very little advertising. Most who run those particular races seek them out and do them multiple times. I get emails and see print ads in running magazines and that's it. They are very successful without Kate.
Remona, if you read my post I listed all the ways Kate made money when Jon was not offered those opportunities. Jon had zero blame there so you read wrong there.
Yes, during their marriage Kate handled all their finances. And even though 2009 she handled the finances when they were seperated and angry with each other. We know this because Jon said so. He said he didn't even have access to their accounts. And yes, a husband is responsible to look after his half during a bad seperation. Especially when he knew how Kate was and millions were flying all around them.
Should Jon not have been involved with his own finances during their seperation in 2009? Of course he should have.
I am not a sheeple. I hate Kate and think Jon is a better person than she is.
Lbelle said... 96
Anonymous ( Kate. Is that you???)......89:
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Lbelle, tsk, tsk!
That can't be K8t's post...there wasn't one -ish word, or a @.
Kate may have a lot of money stashed if she had excellent financial advice, as admin has always alluded to.
But, the money tree doesn't last forever. Eventually that tree is going to quit producing.
She can't live on what she has forever. It won't last that long.
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I am sure Jon received an appropriate amount of cash from the divorce settlement. Unfortunately for him, he blew a lot of it on NYC rent, child support of 22,500 a month (tax free to Kate, btw), and then whatever he had left he spent fighting TLC.
jmo.
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Yes, Kate earned every freaking penny off of her kids and shame on her. I despise her and her ways.
I simply wrote my posts because several people were asking or implying why was Kate so rich and Jon wasn't. I was simply explaining why.
Again, Kate is horrible for using her kids. And without her kids we would not even know who she is. She is simply mean and a user. And Kate is going to have to answer to her children one day when they figure all this out.
Again, I was simply answering mostly fact the reasons Kate has money today and Jon doesn't.
Anonymous said... 98
''I am not a sheeple. I hate Kate and think Jon is a better person than she is.''
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Of course you ''hate Kate'', and are ''not a sheeple''. That is why you continue to post as anonymous. And the very fact that you choose anonymous causes me to doubt every word you say!!
Dog Lover 62- I don't think that my illness is more important than an animal's, and I DON'T think you were selfish or thoughtless. To me my precious dog companion is every bit as important as I am or anyone else in my family,and I suspect you feel the same way about your dogs. They are our joy and our heart's delight, and we are so lucky that they share their lives with us.
Thanks again for your care and concern.
Modo♥
Remona, reread my post. Most of it is fact and has been dicussed a lot on this blog. So don't believe it. Wow, the hostility is bad around here.
aggiemom09121416 said... 81
Auntie Ann 80 said
Money runs through her fingers like shit through a goose.
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I have never heard that phrase.
OMG, I am laughing so hard.
hahhahhaaahhaha
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To funny.
Anonymous, I thought I got your point. You were stating facts. I might not like how it shook out, but your probably explained the inequity in the financial situation very well. I didn't think you were bragging or even respectful of Kate's financial status.
I wonder if Harvey Levin is going to have a case of insomnia tonight.
Anonymous said... 104
Remona, reread my post. Most of it is fact and has been dicussed a lot on this blog. So don't believe it. Wow, the hostility is bad around here
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If you truly want less hostility pick a name and own your words.
Anonymous said... 104
''Remona, reread my post. Most of it is fact and has been dicussed a lot on this blog. So don't believe it. Wow, the hostility is bad around here.''
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Well, since what you've posted is ''mostly'' fact, why continue to use Anonymous? MY ''hostility'' is due to your pointed refusal to choose a freaking name, and then use the chosen name each time you post!!
Anonymous said... 104
I agree with your money post about Kate.
She a money hungry woman who grifts her way through life.
So I would not be surprised if she never went broke.
One thing you forgot to add is that Kate hardly paid for anything-(I believe) in the past 6 years.
All the gifts trips times she and 8 got would probably cost her a lots of money.
IF she paid for them but we know other people paid the tab so.
Thank you Dmasy, I appreciate it. No need to pick a name.
Audible Click said... 108
''If you truly want less hostility pick a name and own your words.;;
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GMTA, Audible Click!
I don't think the Anonymous that just posted that information about the money is a sheeple. I think that particular "Anonymous" made sense. There are a number of reasons why Kate is so rich and Jon isn't. I thought it made sense.
PatK said... 76
Tam, who posts at Preesi's, posted the following. (Tam, I hope you don't mind I brought it over here, but I have no way of contacting you to ask permission. Just hoping a fellow Northeast Ohioan wouldn't mind.)
"Just got off the phone with a woman in the lien department of the Berk's County Prothonotary.
'I KNEW THIS WOULD COME BACK TO HAUNT US', she said.
I informed her that Jon's SS# was all over the internet.
WONDER WHO IN BERK'S COUNTY PROTHONOTARY'S OFFICE FAXED THE LIEN ON JAN. 9, 2013 at 12:44PM TO TMZ?"
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Is the Prothonotary's office next to @Lowes?
Anonymous said... 95
One other thing, Kate had a contract with Coupon Cabin. Maybe she was paid very big bucks for it. She wasn't paid just to write a stupid blog. She was paid to promote them on national tv programs. And Kate did go on a lot tv shows and mentioned them.
ALso, she probably had a contract with Rock and Roll marathon to promote. Yes, she did a poor job but was probably paid a nice sum for it.
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Anonymous..Kate has had very little opportunities in the media this past year and when she was supposed to be promoting Coupon Cabin she did it with very little talk about it and a lot of embarrassment. Watch What Happens Live was her last TV appearance, I believe, and that was a dismal failure. Coupon Cabin fired her days after that appearance.
I can't believe Kate has made much money in the past year and a half. It's only going to get worse for her.
One more thing....pick a freakin' name!
Having said I think the Anonymous post was credible, I also wish he/she would pick a name. Just makes it easier for the rest of us.
Think about this.
If Kate paid for
Steve salary out of pocket.
Her other security.
Paid for all vacations
-Plane tickets, Hotel Food & Transportation
She paid for all of her vacations
-Plane tickets, Hotel Food & Transportation
She paid for her kids gifts-(not grit them)
She would be paying thousand of dollars.
I just don't understand why it is so difficult for an anonymous to pick a name, or if they want to use anonymous, at least identify themselves by using the same name before they start commenting, such as "Molly Brown Here" or at the end of the post.
If you go to the "Comment as: Select Profile" drop-down, directly above the anonymous option is the Name/URL option. Pick that one. The box will come up "Edit Profile," then "Name." You type in a name. It could be ANYTHING, such as Rumspringa. You do NOT need to add a URL. Then you hit CONTINUE, and then Publish, or Preview.
The problem with the anonymous is that when several posters use it, it is very difficult to know who is who and it gets confusing.
Fleecing, yes, it's much easier to follow when there are different names. I usually don't even read any post that says Anonymous, so it was unusual for me to read those posts.
Kate must have had some very good financial advice. A few people, including locals, had figured out that with all of her expenses, including mortgage, nanny/sitter, tuition, maintenance and taxes, food and clothing (for the kids) she needs a minimum of $350,000 a year to make ends meet. Those are basic expenses, excluding all of the extra perks she spends on herself.
I'm only about halfway through all of the comments, but wanted to thank admin for posting Megan's video and story. What a courageous and inspiring young woman! Loved the pic with Jon. Yes, it was a genuine smile, unlike Kates. The only time I've ever seen a genuine smile on Kate has been when she is sans her children.
@Pink Thank you for your note on the other thread. I think there are many beautiful hearts here on this blog, including you!
@dog lover God Bless you, sweetheart. What a heartwrenching ordeal for you. That sweet little dog was blessed to have you, if only for a short time. (hugs)
@Idmodo Happy to hear you are doing better.Will pray for continued good health.
I think Milo is either sulking in a corner, or has finally seen the light.
There have been tweets from really dumb, needy and/or naive sheeple, but this one has to win the grand prize for being the most stupid:
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@msgoody2shoes21 @parker_scarlett @kateplusmy8 Yikes! TMZ was wrong to publish his SSN but I bet his credit score is awful so no problem
handinhand said: "Is the Prothonotary's office next to @Lowes?"
lol!! good one, handinhand! :D
Anonymous.....101:
Okay. Got it. Initially I thought you were making a case FOR Kreider. Thanks!
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Since it's been so long, would anybody mind, not that you have to, be willing to explain to me because I apparently lack memory of what and why a reality show needs contracts and why or how JOn broke his contract with TLC?
The thing of it is, is if Kate has all these years said, "Cameras just come to film us," I mean if that were true...why would you need contract for that? If it's the "realest-of-reality-shows," although I have always had a har time trying to figure out how if it's real life, why call it a show? A show is something to me that is planned, scripted and acted. Reality is something where you should just switch on your camera and film.
Why has it always been that Jon broke his contract? What, did he need TLC's permission to do everything before he did it? Call me crazy but...that sort of doesn't sound right.
And yet Kate and all her screw ups she's made, her attitude by far yet she's always seem to skate by on things with TLC mostly, still able to talk about pretty much whatever she's wanted to. The only one who evver put her in her place a bit, sort of was her coupon cabin gig.
But come on, from the start it was lame. Her writing is nothing short of self-centered narcassistic fan-fare. I think she sort of obviously must get some enjoyment out of watching people thing she's the greatest gift since sliced bread. Which she demonstrated when she sounded like she invented how to make homemade breadcrumbs.
Whether or not her finances are something she had help with, which, come on, if you need help hanging a picture frame, you clearly might need help making financial decisions..since you know, Kate, you nearbly bawled your eyes out through an airport, "Lead us Jon," your helpless clueless blonde bobble headed chick phase? Yeah, that went out of style a LONG time ago.
At some point her money is going to either dwindle drastically or force her to face the inevidable prospect of oh I don't know..filling out a part-time application somewhere. Her kids are in school full time now. Not that I don't have respect for stay at home mothers, I do, but when you're a divorced woman with no chid support (she might still, I dont know?) chances are you might actually have to get off your duff and find some work. I'm sorry your 1920's aspect of putting your kids to work isn't going to pull in the cash anymore.
But hey, Kate, seriously if you're looking for a job you could always stand outside a Panda Express with a sign the same color and your skin advertising their orange chicken. I've heard standing on corners with signs pays well. Or if working with teenagers is more your speed I'm sure your local Starbucks is hiring and who knows maybe if your learn to pour that blondie roast coffee you raved about a few months ago really well, you just might be luck enough to get promoted to bakery-detail!
Finally Kate was 100% in control of all the money up until their divorce. I bet she stashed some away without Jon even knowing about it. But if so, then it was his fault. He should have been just as involved with the money as she was. It was afterall both of theirs.
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This is the only thing that doesn't make sense to me. Once papers are filed, attys get involved with the money issues, and both parties have to have money to support themselves.
There is also something in divorce called 'full disclosure'.
If Jon's attys didn't go through every acct, look under every nook and cranny (even look under that lovely leather couch!), TWICE, they did him a gross disservice.
Every earned penny from previous tax returns, every account, every asset, should have been scrutinized until everything had a severe sunburn.
I bet Jon received a fair and equitable distribution of income,but I think he spent most of it on fighting TLC.
Also, 22,500 a month in child support is a very large amount of money!
I *think* its been said that PA is not a community property state. That further limits what he was entitled to. I bet Kate, once she started earning 'her' money, started untangling her legal and financial responsibilities to Jon. It just sounds like something she would do.
It's all mine, as far as I can see.
Yep, she screwed him over. What a gal.
June, you sound a little jealous....
I guess the point is, even if Kate does have all kinds of money and investments, does she have enough of the stuff to last forever? She's unemployed.
Hey wait. Maybe she was yelling at her investment broker yesterday.
I'm wondering if the person who faxed the document at the Prothonotary's office will be taking Kate down when she/he is fired. Could get interesting...
Jon's trip to France was business.
Lather, rinse, repeat
Jane, Kate is a Twit is having computer issues but will be back soon. I'll tell her you asked about her.
wow....catching up on comments...milo, MIA?
Didn't she/he get their check last month???
Nice smile from Jon...authentic. Unlike Krazy.
Dog Lover, I'm so sorry about the loss of that sweet doggie. How wonderful that you stepped in to show her love and caring for what was left of her life. God bless.
IDModo, so glad to hear you are doing better and I will keep praying for your continued recovery. Hogs to you, hon.
I agree, Auntie Ann. Regardless of how much money Kate had or has, it's not going to last forever with her expensive lifestyle and being unemployed for over a year. Even though she worked for Coupon Cabin, I don't really think she made a lot of money from that gig. I also do not believe she makes money from the marathons she has attended. Therefore, to my way of thinking, she has been unemployed for over a year, refuses to get a real job, but has money flying out the door because of her expensive lifestyle: the big house, the kids private school, the 3 vehicles, her "personal" upkeep, etc.
There have been tweets from really dumb, needy and/or naive sheeple, but this one has to win the grand prize for being the most stupid:
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First Runner-up for dumbest sheeple tweet:
ljohnson2006
Jon gosselin wants publicity so he sold a story to tmz. Stop blaming @Kateplusmy8 and let her live her life with her kids! Hate some1 else!
Sure, Jon sold the story to TMZ. He wants publicity. He wanted his SS number out there. He wants the media and the public to know that he's delinquent in taxes.
Sheesh -- what is the IQ of these people?
Lmg said
but has money flying out the door because of her expensive lifestyle: the big house, the kids private school, the 3 vehicles, her "personal" upkeep, etc.
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tsk, tsk, LMG!!
you said it wrong!!!!
This is how Auntie Ann said it earlier today:
Auntie Ann 80 said
Money runs through her fingers like shit through a goose.
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LOL
I doubt Jon paid anything for France, he would have negotiated the trip as part of the contract since he was working there. I also think many of the things he did were just paid by others.
For all Kate spends I almost wonder if her money may nearly even out compared to Jon. At the end of the day if you are a millionaire with only 2,000 in the bank you're not much better off than someone poor.
It's also possible she's putting this all on credit cards and robbing Peter to pay Paul and that it will all crash miserably someday soon.
Penny said... 131
Jon's trip to France was business.
Lather, rinse, repeat
Jane, Kate is a Twit is having computer issues but will be back soon. I'll tell her you asked about her.
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Thanks, Penny : )
aggiemom, you're right! Auntie Ann worded it so much better than I did. Lol!! What a visual.
By the way, my visual is of Kate running through the golden goose!
LMG...
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aggiemom, I either had to visualize Kate as the goose or the poop. Needless to say, the latter fit her better.
Another difference between Americans & Canadians...
One of my husbands favourite expressions when the Visa bill arrives is "money goes out of this like shit through a goose!"
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 136
You might be right Kate could be using credit cards.
Maybe that's why she soooo desperate to get a new show any show.
I never thought the all might Kate would work for CC or. Run marathons or do lame radio appearances.
I hope she got paid since no one's really calling now.
omg, I laughed so hard the dog woke up.
LOLOL
Good one, LMG!
Many posters wonder why Kate seems to have ended up with most of the marital assets in the divorce. It seems to me that Jon was not well represented in the divorce proceedings. Wasn't there something about him showing up with his NY attorney who was then not allowed to represent him in PA? Maybe I'm all wrong here, just seems to be something I recall from back then. Does anyone else remember something about that?
ljohnson2006
Jon gosselin wants publicity so he sold a story to tmz. Stop blaming @Kateplusmy8 and let her live her life with her kids! Hate some1 else!
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Interesting. So then how come Jon didn't sell the story of him making Megan Kowalewski's day by casually running into her and taking a picture with her? Megan put the picture on her facebook, that's the only reason anyone knows about it.
Seems if he were so very desperate for publicity that he would sell a story about himself, it would at least be one that showed him in a positive light, not one that reveals unpaid taxes.
The man had his most personal piece of identifying information shown to thousands and has been publically humiliated, and all the sheeple can do is throw him under the bus to defend Kate??
Unbelievable.
Kate's going to poop 8 golden eggs while running her 12 miles.
And then you going to sell them to the rag mag off her twitter.
Post 142..
of course I meant "goes out of this HOUSE..."
Zoe said... 145
Many posters wonder why Kate seems to have ended up with most of the marital assets in the divorce. It seems to me that Jon was not well represented in the divorce proceedings. Wasn't there something about him showing up with his NY attorney who was then not allowed to represent him in PA? Maybe I'm all wrong here, just seems to be something I recall from back then. Does anyone else remember something about that?
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Yes, I do remember this. And remember thinking at the time that Kate had a smart, on-the-ball attorney and Jon's seemed to be more of a publicity seeker, not sharp on divorce matters.
I think the more delicate version of the expression is 'like grease through a goose' but it's not nearly as fitting when we're discussing Kate.
I've noticed the sheeple will get behind anything and everything as long as they say something bad about someone they hate. That includes TMZ doing the reprehensible and posting this private info.
If Charles Manson were to write an essay about why he hates Jon, or this blog, or me, they would get behind it. Without ever bothering to GOOGLE who Charles Manson is and what he's done in his past, what else he has written, who else he has sued, how he has no credibility with anyone but himself. They're honestly this stupid.
I didn't see the article about Jon, and only know what I'm reading here. The only thing I can say is my gosh, why don't they leave him alone already?? Why do they keep trying to dig up stuff about him and make it public? He is not trying to stay in the public eye, he is trying to live a normal life. Why do certain people insist on making his personal information/issues public? It is so wrong.
Jane said... 149
Ah yes Mark Heller who is now currently Lindsay lawyers.
Oh, and another thing I've always thought possible. Perhaps Jon didn't want to have a big contentious divorce proceeding. Maybe he just decided to let Kate have what she wanted and assumed he would earn similar money of his own after the divorce. But then, as we all know, TLC squashed any possibilities of that after the divorce.
Working Woman said... 146
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Jon gosselin wants publicity so he sold a story to tmz. Stop blaming @Kateplusmy8 and let her live her life with her kids! Hate some1 else!
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Interesting. So then how come Jon didn't sell the story of him making Megan Kowalewski's day by casually running into her and taking a picture with her? Megan put the picture on her facebook, that's the only reason anyone knows about it.
Seems if he were so very desperate for publicity that he would sell a story about himself, it would at least be one that showed him in a positive light, not one that reveals unpaid taxes.
The man had his most personal piece of identifying information shown to thousands and has been publically humiliated, and all the sheeple can do is throw him under the bus to defend Kate??
Unbelievable.
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That logic train just sped past the station going 800 mph...
Sheeple never cease to amaze me.
Kate must be so proud.
Jon's NY atty would know if he could represent a client in Pa.
I think it might have something to do with Pa not being a community property state. When Jon was still doing the show, I don't think they were pulling in the big bucks on the show, right?
Jon, on his own, really didn't make a lot of money.
Kate, on the other hand, was doing appearances, the last two books were hers, then she did her short-lived show with the kids, and that supposedly pulled in major bucks.
Kate probably got the house and control of the kid's money.
She was also raking in some serious child support.
If PA was a community property state, his financial settlement would have been greater. If he had pursued 50/50 custody, he would have kept the monthly 22,500.
Hoffman listed Kate's investment accounts as of 2011 in the book. He didn't go into dollar amounts. I don't know much about finances, but the list looked impressive.
You know, I'm not even sure a public figure should have their tax issues exposed. And I certainly don't think a private figure should. It's not like there aren't entities to take care of this.
I guess there is an argument that tax issues are a matter of public concern because we all pay them and all get cheated when someone doesn't pay, but I think that's only true if they don't comply with whatever orders were made to help them correct the problem. For instance we probably should be made aware that Richard Hatch went to jail for tax evasion. But up until that point I don't see his issues with the tax man as any of our business until it gets to the point of no return. The tax code is thousands of pages long. Every year thousands of people make mistakes. Think if you got confused and made a mistake. Would you want that plastered everywhere? Of course not. And there would be no reason for that either.
I was thinking if the shoe were on the other foot and it were Kate? You know what I'm not sure that's appropriate. And she's made her finances a lot more public, too. I think it would make me uncomfortable. I would be interested only to the extent I'd worry the kids would be expected to pay it out of their trust.
The divorced settled quicker than scat. I believe very strongly that Jon just wanted it over and done with and took an unfair deal thinking he would have no problem continuing to earn his millions on his own. There's no way a divorce that complicated ever moves that fast otherwise, I was stunned.
It's all awfully hypocritical.
First of all, there is no way for anyone to prove that Kate sold the story. She could have absolutely nothing to do with it.
But the sheeple feel that she is being unfairly accused by some and they dont like it.
So, they argue it how? ....By unfairly blaming Jon.
How is that any different??? How is there more evidence that Jon sold the story than there is against Kate?
Makes no sense, none.
Working Woman, please stop trying to use logi to figure out how the sheeple think. You'll give yourself a migraine, darlin'.
Anonymous said... 111
Thank you Dmasy, I appreciate it. No need to pick a name
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This is one of the rudest comments that I have ever read here
(NO reflection on Dmasy,who I think is wonderful)..
I don't agree with disclosing it, but Robert lists a dozen investment firms that manage Kate's money. Kate is not usually one to listen to anyone. It must have been one of the few people she really trusts just taking control of the money and she let them. I'm guessing Steve or her manager.
It typically doesn't make sense for a narcissists to save money like that because they live so much in the moment and don't think about tomorrow, but some are hoarders like that and penny pinchers. Kate has a bit of that neuroticism, she will pinch pennies on the kids while blowing on herself. She would have to have the discipline to let those firms handle her money and leave it alone. I bet they gave her a monthly allowance and that's what she blows and that's why she penny pinches on the kids so she can have more of the allowance for herself.
My narcissist would freak over buying the bagged spinach instead of the slightly cheaper fresh (that someone already busy doing other things for her would have to take time, energy and water to clean all up), while on the same day out getting some $2500 dress to wear once to some stupid event. Makes no sense and was very frustrating to deal with, but it's how it rolled.
Thank you Dmasy, I appreciate it. No need to pick a name
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Well, there is a need to pick a name because I asked you to a pick a name. People will be a lot less hostile to you if you respect the blog, the rules, me and others, and if you don't act like the rules don't apply to you. No one likes someone who acs like the rules don't apply to them. Coming in as anonymous makes people immediately question your motives--to avoid that just pick a name.
Rhymes With Witch, thank you very much.
Check out my post at #92. Could be that we just got a "wink and a nod". A possibility. What do you think?
Dmasy said... 164
''Check out my post at #92. Could be that we just got a "wink and a nod". A possibility. What do you think?''
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I think that there is the possibility that Anonymous wanted you to THINK you got a ''wink and a nod''.
Admin 163, of course I agree that every Anonymous should pick a name. Your rules!
I just thought -- maybe -- instead of a rude comment, we might be getting a message comment.
But, then I really don't know.
LoveMyGrandsons said... 160
Working Woman, please stop trying to use logi to figure out how the sheeple think. You'll give yourself a migraine, darlin'.
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LOL LMG!
LMG, LOL I was wondering about this painful pounding I've been feeling right above my eyes! No more dissecting sheeple logic for me...
Dmasy no worries. You are forever sweet and patient. I am more, my blog my rules, gut reaction! LOL.
Dmasy said... 164
Rhymes With Witch, thank you very much.
Check out my post at #92. Could be that we just got a "wink and a nod". A possibility. What do you think?
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yeah, that was my first thought.
Admin, I agree your blog, your rules. You have asked over and over again that posters not use Anonymous, yet it happens continuously; I believe intentionally. You have been more than patient with this big rule breaker.
June we don't "out" other bloggers here even those we don't like. Please do not invite people to visit blog posts that do. For that reason I have to delete your post. Otherwise it was fine.
Deanna has photos of her at some event. I don't think she is a drunk. I don't think she is some wild partier. I think she is just a young woman hamming it up for pictures. Some women just do that.
I am not one to post pictures of me doing anything because I am usually behind the lens taking the photos, and I just don't think to TAKE pics doing various things nor am I one to ham it up. But, I have several friends and family who will ham it up for facebook at things. A "wild party" where someone is drinking, smoking,and hanging on some guy is often just game night, or movie night. Just mediocre stuff! Uncle Tom looking drunk at a BBQ was just a plain ole family reunion where the worst thing that happened was someone nearly choked on the cheese and crackers.
Just my take on things. Boring as I am I've never been to anything wild, but photos often make things look a lot more fun and crazy than they were and people exaggerate for cameras.
Boy, Admin, do I agree with your last comment! If you guys saw pictures of me in my younger days, you would most likely think negatively. There was a picture or 2 of me in the middle of a group of young, nice looking guys. It was at an outdoor wedding, we all had a drink in our hands and our arms around each other. What you wouldn't know from looking at that picture is a couple of the guys were my cousins, and the rest were neighbors and we grew up together for 15 years! Pictures can be deceiving!
Why is it that when someone decides someone has done nothing so egregious that would cause them to take issue with them, they are patronized and accused of viewing that person as a "saint."
St. Liz? Really??? I don't have the foggiest notion if Liz is a saint. I expect she is no saint, rather just as flawed as anyone else. Makes the same mistakes, says things she shouldn't, and so on. I don't have an ISSUE with people who are just normal, flawed people or I would be a hypocrite being just such a person myself. I DO take issue with people who decide they are going to go beyond just a few flaws and venture into the truly unforgivable, for instance exploiting your children and never seeing a single thing wrong with it.
There is a difference between calling someone a saint, and deciding that someone's behavior has not ventured anywhere close to the kind of behavior that warrants getting upset over.
I understand you deleting my post.
My point about Liz seems to fall on deaf ears here. No BFD, I appreciate being able to post here. The sheeple blogs are Nazi. Anything that doesn't put Kate on a pedestal is deleted. Atleasr here we can banter back and forth.
I appreciate Working's posts earlier today. I think she and I are in agreement about Jon introducing his kids to yet another girlfriend if he's not serious. It's heartwrenching for them to get close to another mother figure, only to lose her. Again.
Anyone who follows this sags knows the players.
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Who sags...besides Kate and her good bra?
And even if Liz does like to have fun and drink and go to parties, that doesn't prove what she's like as a person. She's in her twenties, it's very common to gravitate toward those types of social events at that age. She could be the kindest woman in the world for all we know, why is it important what she enjoys doing in her free time (as long as it is nothing dangerous or illegal)?
As long as she is a good mother to her children and a good girlfriend to Jon, that's what matters.
My point about Liz seems to fall on deaf ears here.
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Just because someone disagrees with you or doesn't want to change their mind after hearing your take on things doesn't mean anything has fallen on "deaf ears". We hear you, there are a variety of opinions on this issue that have all been said, no one is deaf. This is like Heather, who thinks if you don't agree with her you must somehow not be informed or don't read the right things.
Listen, disagreement is just that, disagreement. It's not all these other things people think it is like you are deaf or aren't reading the right things. Reasonable people can be educated, informed, and listening to each other, and still disagree, lol.
I have some old St. Patrick's Day pics from D.C. that sure make it look like we had some time. Not really, we just dressed funny and shouted and kicked for the pictures.
It really wasn't like that. We had one Guinness and then went home and watched a movie. We were political nerds with 11 p.m. bedtimes to make sure we were up early to read all the news before work.
June, I did indeed say that it is probably best to wait until the relationship is stable before introducing your children to a new girlfriend or boyfriend, just so they are not constantly forming attachments and then saying goodbye.
But I wasn't saying that Jon and Liz weren't at that stage before the kids met her, I have no way of knowing that. I hope that Liz is a great, warm presence in their lives.
Didn't Kate get tipsy in front of the kids on k+8 or am I mistaken.
As a matter of fact, Kate and Jamie happily mixed drinks in the kitchen for the trip to NYC as Cara was bawling, begging Kate to please not go and several other kids were upset. Jamie said she was trashed when they got to NYC some few hours later.
I knew TLC really hated her then or at least didn't care if we did.
And we all know how much Kate loves her glass of wine.
I wonder if the kids are around when she's drinking wine or is she alone?
Admin, 178 -- your logical post made me scratch my memory for an equation. Got it! What you said...
Baye's Theorem -- it is more complicated that I care to understand.
Evidence should alter beliefs. Beliefs are altered by evidence. There can be more than one interpretation, both upheld by the facts.
I THINK that is what it means!
but photos often make things look a lot more fun and crazy than they were and people exaggerate for cameras.
Logic would then say that photos of the G kids looking 'relaxed and happy' are exaggerated as well.
I personally don't think those kids are 'ever relaxed and happy'.
chefsummer said... 183
''And we all know how much Kate loves her glass of wine.
I wonder if the kids are around when she's drinking wine or is she alone?''
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I think that with hindsight after reading Robert's book, we can explain a lot of the children's behavior. I wondered why Cara was so upset about KK leaving, but in hindsight, I think that she had seen KK's behavior when drinking, and that was what had Cara so upset.
Colin was impacted. In hindsight, we know that KK beat the toddlers for toilet training accidents...so his defense was to not go at all.
Robert said that Colin got into trouble w/KK for waving and smiling at the paparazzi, in hindsight, I think that is why we saw so many photos of Colin covering his eyes. If he can't see anyone, he won't get into trouble for being friendly.
Just something I've been thinking about.
Hamming it up at a party for the cameras is different than discreetly catching someone in a relaxed, happy moment just hanging out with their beloved dog.
I'd much prefer to just catch someone experiencing such a moment by surprise with a photo rather than have some wild and crazy photo of everyone lined up at a party being silly.
I hope the kids have many times they are relaxed and happy now that filming has stopped. We've seen many amateur photos of them out and about in which no one even seemed to know the cameras were there where they look just that.
Remona Blue said... 186
Oh wow I was only able to get through half of the book.
So I must have missed those parts such a shame though.
And the photos Kate posts of the kids are so incredibly posed. The kids are always all looking at the camera, positioned and/or lined up, and grinning widely. It's not even necessarily that they look unhappy, it just looks so unnatural. You can tell Kate actually stopped their fun or whatever they were doing just to take the picture.
The few pictures Liz posted of the children with her pit bull were different. They were candid, natural, in the moment. And they came across as much more genuine and heartwarming, in my opinion.
Hamming it up at a party for the cameras is different than discreetly catching someone in a relaxed, happy moment just hanging out with their beloved dog.
Honestly, you have no way of knowing whether that was staged or not. I don't believe it was but as a photographer, are you saying that it never happens?
Jon needs to concentrate on being a father. Not a boyfriend, a father.
Someone here posted a pic that said you sacrifice for your kids. I have only 2 children and work full time. I feel pulled in every direction, never mind having EIGHT children. Each child needs quality time and I don't think he has the time for it, frankly, if he's working AND dating.
I'd do ANYthing for my kids including not having a social life for a few (very short) years. They grow up way too fast and I don't want to miss a thing.
Plus, Jon doesn't even have those kids every day. Priorities is all I'm saying. They'll be grown up and you can do what you want in a few short years.
It is absolutely important for Jon to be a good, present father to his children.
That said, I don't see anything wrong with him having a healthy relationship with a woman he cares about.
The two do not have to be mutually exclusive.
In my next life I want to be a photograph and am loving exploring my SLR. People and animals are my favorite subjects and I RARELY, especially with kids, tell them what to do. Or if I do it's very minimal direction. Usually I look for what PEOPLE are doing and capture it, I don't try to manipulate people into situations. Those photos had the feel of very little manipulation. One of those, oh wow look how sweet, where is my iPhone, type moments that I encounter often.
One of the few times I gave any direction was for my friend's daughter's, who wanted pics taken but were kind of just awkwardly standing there. I knew they needed to loosen up a bit for a better photo so I just told them, give each other a silly hug! The older one, age 8, grabbed the little one from behind and held her tight, made a funny face, and the little one burst into a fit of giggles. I clicked, and the photo I got I ADORE, a beautiful sister moment I hope they treasure. I couldn't have posed that if I tried. It was just a once in a lifetime moment Im grateful I was able to get. Beyond that, don't pose your photos, just take them. The moments will pose themselves.
Remona blue, I think you are spot on. Cara was so upset, and like you I think she knew that Kate was tipsy, if not more than that. And as for Collin most likely that's what went down.
Anonymous, please take a name and stay with it. I have read the latest posts you made but I usually hop over anything that's titled Anonymous. I really would like to see all Anonymous posts deleted immediately.
Does anyone remember the person who posted here around Labor Day? She was going away with her family but announced that she would be back after the holiday. I thought it was lenti or lentl or something like that...same writing style, same word usage, same thoughts on Jon and Liz as the "new" person who has been posting today.
Speaking of photos, those pictures of Kate and Jamie all over each other on the bench really weren't the photos that you'd want to show your grandma!
Twidiot I totally admire you and the choices that are right for your family. That is right for your situation.
I don't agree that no parent with children should ever date though. You have to strike that balance. I think some parents make it work being alone. For others, they can't make that work. For some, isn't it better that they feel happy and supported. Doesn't that actually make some parents BETTER parents? Plus I think, at the risk of sounding a bit biased, it may be easier for dads to have another woman around to help them with the kids, there is something about that woman's touch that really helps dads feel secure. I don't think a divorced parent should ever feel guilty about trying to create happiness and stability, however they do that--either by themselves or with a partner.
Although Kate hasn't had a boyfriend, even she too admits she has gone on dates and does want one and I don't begrudge her that. She has never said she is against having someone else around no more than Jon has.
Of course I can't say for SURE the photos weren't staged, lol I wasn't there! But I can say for sure they certainly LOOK like candid photos that were not staged, I'd bet the farm on it. Only someone very talented at photography could stage something as well as they were. Liz is just using an iphone, and while she has an eye that's above average, I don't think she is a professional.
Why can't people get over the fact that Jon is in a relationship?
He's not a monk or a priest I mean come one what;s the big deal?
Why is it that everyone who makes mean and outlandish comments about Jon&Liz turns out is going through their own deadbeat divorce? If that is your situation don't say so. You make yourself sound like a sheeple man eater. Get therapy instead, honestly. Don't take your issues out on some reality guy. Projection much?
chefsummer, do you have children?
Thank you for the compliment, Admin, I just try to do my best. I really like my kids and being around them as they flit to a friend's house, swimming lessons or a movie. I can't believe the difference in one year at this age! I feel like they're never home. *sigh* They grow up way too quickly, IMO.
But I wouldn't have it any other way.
I, for one, will forever be suspicous of Jon. When people show you who they are, believe them. While I also think Jon has a 'nice guy' inside of him, I think he's got a dim-witted side too. JMO. Don't flame me, please.
Twidiot, you seem like a very devoted parent. That's wonderful and I admire that :-)
No flaming at all, that is your opinion and you express it very respectfully.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 179
I have some old St. Patrick's Day pics from D.C. that sure make it look like we had some time. Not really, we just dressed funny and shouted and kicked for the pictures.
It really wasn't like that. We had one Guinness and then went home and watched a movie. We were political nerds with 11 p.m. bedtimes to make sure we were up early to read all the news before work.
Thank you for helping me make my point. You most likely did not CHOOSE to post your goofy photos in social media when you were aware that the man you were dating would be judged by your demeanor. Right?
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