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Wednesday, February 13, 2013
ABC officially announces Kate on 'Wife Swap'
After months of rumors, it's official. Kate will swap places with Kendra Wilkinson on the premiere of Celebrity Wife Swap, February 26th. The poor Gosselin kids. And poor Hank Jr.!
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«Oldest ‹Older 1 – 200 of 1020 Newer› Newest»Still don't get it. Kate's not currently a wife.
Anyway, it's not like she'll get her own show out of this one time thing. Meh.
Maaaayyyyybbeeeee! Oh ye gads. Another reason not to watch TV. I won't be tuning in. And who is Kendra Wilkinson again? Somebody even remotely famous for doing something useful?
So maybe this show shines a negative light on Kate. And that's what all the 'see what a great mom I am' tweets and bogs are about.
She sold her kids out again...for a D listed show and a Playboy bunny. I'd like to know the role, if any, Jon played in this. Did he give approval?
This is also why when people say Kate is cooked leave this site behind, I say, I don't know don't be so sure I have this funny feeling it's not over yet and we still need a place like this. And there ya go.
I want to hear the sheeple spin on this, I want to hear Kate's spin on it, and I want to hear how you can justify this for a TODDLER who has no idea who Kate is and why his mommy has left him for a WEEK. At least with the Gosselin kids you can explain it to them in a rational way.
Admin where did you see the sheeple say that she didn't do wife swap? There are no sheeple blogs left and I never saw any sheeple talk about it on twitter.
Looks like Robert wasn't right about it being a show that Kate financed herself?
How long before ABC starts getting the blistering tweets and letters from unhappy people? How long before sponsors start hearing about this? It's probably already started.
You know it.
Wondering said... 5
Admin where did you see the sheeple say that she didn't do wife swap? There are no sheeple blogs left and I never saw any sheeple talk about it on twitter.
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That is totally my recollection. Now you are making me second guess if I'm mis-remembering that.
I could have sworn that when we first talked about this months ago when the rumor first started, most of them denied Kate would ever do that. Am I wrong?
Will editing be Kate's friend?
I watched the original Wife Swap shows but never cared to watch the Celebrity swaps, so I don't know if they tend to show one or both of the celebs in a good light or not. Although, it being ABC and not TLC, maybe they are kinder.
I suppose there will be a round of the ABC talk shows to promote this premiere?
So far no direct yeas or nays for Kate. Only mentions are of Kendra and they are like "Who?" Most are more concerned about the featured show being cancelled. But it's early and Milo probably hasn't seen the announcement.
Lynn W.
Lynn, I believe Milo was already past "lights out" when the original tweet appeared. Boy, will she have a busy day tomorrow!
So far there's more concern for the show being cancelled. No mention of Kate directly, more like "Kendra who?" Just wait until Milo sees the announcement and she'll be all over everywhere she can go to praise her BFF Kate.
Lynn W.
Pretty sure the sheep did swear that Kate would never do a show with someone "like" Kendra. I happen to think Kate is way worse, but whatever.
What is ABC thinking except maybe people will tune in to see the kids. Hopefully after 1 hour Kate is gone and TV producers will know for sure Kate doesn't deserve a show with or without the kids. Kate's paycheck will most likely keep her afloat for a year and Kate gets her vacation from the kids she says she loves even though Kate loves the kids most when they're working!
I think sometimes what happens here is people say "I bet the sheeple will say Kate will never do a show like that" then it becomes fact. Sheeple are dumb enough without us putting words in their mouths.
I just realized, I can do a recap.
I'm sorta waving a tiny little flag of celebration. Ra-ra, yea.
Wondering could be. Until we actually go back to Robert's original announcement and look at what tweets we were posting here, we won't be able to settle whose memory is the bestest. :)
Hey remember Scott saying "recent events" caused him to fire Kate. It was RIGHT when the Wife Swap filming tweets were going on i.e. Kendra tweeting about being in PA and Kate spotted in an LA nightclub.
Maaaayyyyybbeeeee! Oh ye gads. Another reason not to watch TV. I won't be tuning in. And who is Kendra Wilkinson again? Somebody even remotely famous for doing something useful?
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I think she's famous for her boobs. I'm not sure how useful they are, except to Mr. Kendra, and her child.
I would think that, since Milo and Kate are so intimately involved,. this won't be any big news for Milo.
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Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said... 10
Midnight Madness said... 8
When was this filmed? The kids didn't have school on October 12 or 15.
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Here's Kate tweet from Oct. 16:
Good afternoon!I'm alive!I've been super busy working away!I'm having lots of fun and can't wait to share!No worries..we will chat soon! XO
lol "working."
http://www.realitytvkids.com/2012/11/pit-bulls-and-parolees-says-kate-knows.html?commentPage=3
That still doesn't confirm that Sheep said she wouldn't do a show like that. I remember some saying they were happy she was working.
Robert also said Kate financed the show. Sure doesn't look like it now.
Well, back in November Deanna tweeted this about the incident:
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Deanna Bell @deannatweeting
@MiloandJack @kateplusmy8 I look forward2reading bullies' backpedaling tweets when real story comes out. The positivity mightB2 much4them!
Real story? The real story was exactly what we said in November, Kate swapped places with Kendra and we still don't like it. What "real" story??
I stand corrected, this one supported the idea;
@MyBorderCollie
@mylilabbster @Kateplusmy8 @KendraWilkinson From what I've seen Kendra is a sweetie & I've watched her show. Both Kate & Kendra good people.
And yet another blamed the outing all on the kids for in their fantasy telling Jon who MUST have told Robert. She actually told Kate she needs to shut those kids up. Yeah because kids shouldn't be free to tell their father WHATEVER they darn well please. Ugh. And despite the fact that dozens and often hundreds of people are usually involved in a major network production like this and any one of them could have spilled the beans, not to mention anyone else who happened to have seen the filming.
This should be a fun ride.
Kate is not a wife...just will pretend to be one?? OMG
Or will she drag poor Steve along.
Beware puny mortals! Kate Gosselin is but one of my minions. She will never vanish from this teevee you have. It is to prepare the way for the ancient ones to once again rule the earth.
From the description of the show in the link Admin posted:
"They’re given the chance to see how another celebrity raises their children and deals with life in the spotlight, while allowing both couples the opportunity to re-discover why they love each other and why they decided to get together in the first place
So who is the other half of Kate's couple? Shoka?
By the way, Robert never said that Kate was funding a pilot when he posted about this show. That came up in an article that Rob Shuter wrote for the Huff Post. This is what Robert posted on his blog:
According to sources, Kate Gosselin left her eight children alone with Kendra Wilkinson, who formed a company to market her own sex tape, as well as a strange camera crew and a college-age babysitter (Ashley), for a week while she went off with her own personal babysitter to film an episode of a new reality show tentatively titled ‘Mom Swap.’
The Gosselin children were scared and very confused, having no idea who their new mom-for-a-week was, or why they were left alone with her to be filmed by strangers. All they were told by their loving mother about Kendra was that she was on Dancing With The Stars. They were instructed not to speak a word about it to anyone at school or anywhere else.
I’m not sure how much more psychological damage Kate can do to these poor children but she sure looks like she’s willing to sink to new depths to get her face back on television.
The exploitation of the Gosselin children for Kate’s own personal fame continues.
I just threw up.
She talks about bullies then puts the kids on national T.V. on a show that frankly is a joke. Yeah that won't expose the kids to bullying for anyone at school who sees it!
Oh and the kids had to work their Columbus Day vacation instead of enjoying their time off from school. Poor kids. And before the new laws went into effect.
Just HOW are the Go$$elin kids going to live it down at school when the kids tease them at their school for being raised by a PORN QUEEN for a week???!!! There are NO words for the evil that is Khate Gro$$elin.
Part of the "entertainment" on Wife Swap is the interaction with the spouses. I guess Kendra will interact with the hired help.
For those who don't know, Kendra was 18 or 19 years old when she became one (of three) of Hugh Hefner's girlfriends. She did it for fame and actually came out and said sex with the old geezer was gross. Then she made a sex tape and marketed it herself (not with her husband.). She actually has (what seems) like a nice personality but how could she leave her little boy with Kate?
He must have been so confused.
What could Kendra teach the Gosselin girls? How to be sexy and @)?# an old fart?
At least she'll probably be decent to the boys. That will be new to them.
What if jon did a dad swap show with Ron Jeremy? Sheep would be demanding he lose custody.
Kendra isn't a terrible person. I'd rather have her with my kids than kate any day, porn tape or not.
One likely scenerio is that perhaps someone like Ashley told a friend, who told Robert hey Kendra Wilkinson and Kate are filming this "swap" thing. Friend didn't get all the gritty details (like it was ABC and an established show, not a new pilot) and so just assumed oh it's a new pilot. Perhaps Kate had talked of pilots before, of even funding them, and there starts that rumor that Kate "funded" her own pilot.
This is how sources work in anything. You hope to get most of it, but your source themselves might have gotten a little mixed up or doesn't have all the info. The point is they got the main gist of it, that Kendra and Kate swapped and that the kids were part of it. That part was correct.
Penny, that kills me about Hank. How old is he two, three? You cannot explain to a three year old I'm going away for a week this nice lady will be coming in you will also see some strange film crew in the house but don't worry I'm coming back! All a kid thinks is MOMMMY WHERE ARE YOU MOMMY!!!!!
It is reprehensible to me a mother of a toddler would leave her child alone with Kate Gosselin and a film crew for a week. Just astounding. What is a three year old to think? He might think his mom died if he understands that, or got eaten by monsters. He is not going to understand, don't worry she'll be back.
Celebrity Wife Swap has a listing on IMDB.com if you want to know who was involved in the past.
I remember one where Dee Snider and Flavor Flav switched. Tina Yothers of Family Ties and Niecy Nash switched. Tina's family liked to do outdoor stuff so city girl Niecy struggled with that.
An interesting thing about the IMDB description is "They agree to follow a manual written by the departing mother that sets out the rules of their new household - how they parent, manage their social life, do house work, unwind and more."
The unwinding explains why Kate was in the bar. Kendra likes to party.
I'm sure Kate has a manual. I hope it doesn't mention wooden spoons.
Kendra is now doing a celebrity diving show called Splash.
I won't be watching. I'll just read about it here. Kate will be in her glory. Her bogs must've been so mediocre for her.
I wonder what Jon's role was. Can you film if the children are on your custody time? Did he figure it was a one time thing that wasn't going to lead to anything?
I'm not so worried that Kendra will be a problem to the kids. I'm sure she was fine with them and did't do anything inappropriate. She might actually be a breath of fresh air. I don't like that it's being filmed though. They might actually enjoy someone not so crazy. I will never understand leaving your kids with someone you barely know but worse things have happened. Filming it is the issue for me.
Kate is a Twit (#24): You stated that maybe $hoka would be Khate's spouse. Could be. How about $keeve... or the Handyman... anyone else have any ideas?
Kate is not a wife, and she is not part of a couple.
It's a shame that she is still trying to sell off her children for entertainment.
She has no business being on that show.
All the same, I will pass on that giant turkey.
So know we know why Kate so readily answered "Yep" when someone on twitter asked if they would be seeing Kate on TV again.
Again, I just want to say that Robert did not say that Kate was filming a pilot. Huff Post said that in this article:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/13/kate-gosselin-show-reality-tv-pilot_n_2123189.html
That article said:
"Robert Hoffman, author of “Kate Gosselin: How She Fooled The World,” says Kate even reached out to another reality star mom, Kendra Wilkinson, to tape a potential new show about moms swapping kids."
That info most likely came from Robert's blog post about the show, which I posted in my previous comment.
Say what you will about Kendra and her past sexploits, at least she didn't leave her child alone with a stranger like Kate did. The child's father was there the entire time, but those poor Gosselin kids were literally abandoned and left without a parent present AGAIN!
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Did Jon have to agree to this filming?
How much would a program like this pay Kate?
I have seen a few episodes of regular "Wife Swap". The format thrived on controversy and discord. Is the celebrity versions similar? That would not be good for the children.
Admin, I am counting on your re-cap being the best part of this episode.
It frustrates me that Kate will be all smug and "famous" again.
Somebody asked about Kate promoting this on ABC shows. I don't remember the previous celebrities promoting it. Of course, Kate is special.
I've watched Kendra and her family's show. Kendra is the blonde bimbo who likes the attention, but she seems like a good wife and mom. Her husband is really nice. I was impressed with him.
I don't like the Playboy lifestyle, but they didn't have big fights and seemed to have a good marriage. Kendra's close to her mom and Grandma, and Hank is close to his parents unlike Kate who has alienated her familly.
I would hope Hank Sr. Was on hand to actually care for the kid. Hank Jr has long, curly hair. Perfect for grabbing and whipping him into a crib. What if she's not potty trained!!!?!!
Did Kate think part of the job was to seduce Hank Sr.?
I'm disgusted.
I suppose there is a chance Kendra might call Kate out. Like wait it's a long weekend why aren't we at Grandma's??? Why are you guys always in the damp dark basement why don't you come upstairs? How come I'm now allowed to eat with you? Why are we eating on PRISON TRAYS? How come Shoka isn't inside with US?
This actually has potential to expose some of her bizarre behavior as just that, bizarre.
I think it's hysterical that the comments on the article linked above are not even talking about Kate or Kendra. It's like the announcement wasn't even made. I'm lovin it.
Robert also said Kate financed the show. Sure doesn't look like it now.
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I am so confused. I don't remember Robert saying that. I thought it was Naughty Nice who said that she was financing a show.
Robert's post said that Ashley was also there with Kendra. If true, at least they had a familiar face around. Ashley probably did it for the kids, and not for Kate.
Looks like Kate still has people at ABC who like her. The View, DWTS, Skating with the Stars--all ABC shows. I guess they will take her on in small doses.
Admin-will definitely be looking forward to a recap.
Then there was the info in Robert's books about
S&K (something like that) that looked like it might be a film company. Lots of thoughts jumped off from there. Who knows, this might be
2 bits of information that were created into a
whole picture. Personally, I don't care who funded it, I'm just hoping it does not make Kate want to drag her kids in front of the camera over and over again for these type things.
Don't you wonder -- will there be yellow sticky notes all over the house for Kendra to read and obey?
Yes if it were Ashley I can't blame her for that. She probably figures it's going to happen whether I am here or not, I'd rather be the one who is here protecting them the best I can rather than some new nanny who hasn't been down this road before. I really like her.
I don't remember the sheeple saying much of anything about this show. First, most of them don't believe Robert anyway, and second, his post came out a few days after Liz posted the pictures of the kids with her dog, and they were too busy putting her down, and standing up for Kate to give it much notice.
I do remember when rumors of Kate doing a dating show came out, that some of sheeple were saying that it would be okay if it were done tastefully (ha ha), but some didn't think it was the right venue for Kate.
I wonder if Ashley wasn't the stand-in for Kate's husband. Makes sense. Kendra's hubby was with Kate, Kate's not-a-hubby was with Kendra. Maybe the kids loved having Ashley there.
fidosmommy- The info about SK8,Inc. didn't come from Robert's book. I believe that came from Preesi's blog.
I just wish Robert's book would be re-released before this show airs. I think it would give some people pause why Kate was allowed to take care of a 2 yr old toddler.
I don't think this is going to "expose" anything about Kate. It's going to be an hour of Oh my god how does she do this all alone every day. I bet it's going to show how every minute of the kid's lives are perfectly scheduled,with a great balance of structured time and play time.Kate is going to come out looking like a loving,devoted mother who gives her all for the kids. How she sacrifices everything for the kids.
I wonder if Kendra is going to get all the help that Kate has every week.Kate is going to gush over how easy it is just having one child...she's gonna have so much quiet and free time,she won't know what to do with herself. How going out to party is ok...but she would rather be at home with her kid's who she misses sooooooo much.
Kendra got her fame from moving into the playboy mansion and screwing an 80 year old man at the tender age of 18.Kendra was willing to do the nasty with Hef, to reap the rewards that came with it.Living in the lap of luxury!
I'm not a Kendra fan...But unlike Kate,Kendra is true to herself and OWNS what she is and what she has done.
I bet Kate is hoping that some network will see this and give her another show about being a single mother of 8 kids who's just trying to get by.
I won't watch this puke fest.I refuse to give her any ratings for anything.I will however send an e-mail directing them to Roberts book.Letting them know that putting a Child and Animal Abuser on tv is never a good move.
Wow.Kate is Retweeting at 1:20 am. Checking out the reaction to her being on that show? Or having trouble sleeping?
I had a horrible thought when I was thinking about how she isn't a wife so shouldn't be qualified for a "wife" swap. What if there is someone in her life and it is her way of announcing it? ugh puke gag.....
Hmm, Kate just retweeted one of Milo's tweets about the Shoka post. It's 1:25am ET. I wonder if she is out in San Diego for that Coronado Valentine's Run that some were tweeting her about? Why else would she be tweeting now?
It is reprehensible to me a mother of a toddler would leave her child alone with Kate Gosselin and a film crew for a week. Just astounding. What is a three year old to think? He might think his mom died if he understands that, or got eaten by monsters. He is not going to understand, don't worry she'll be back.
I'm sure Hank Sr. was there with Kate and Hank Jr. the whole time and Kate only interacted with him when the cameras were rolling - otherwise he was cared for by his dad.
I think anyone who has ever watched any of the Wife Swap shows can predict the story line. It'll be about Kate's rigid, militaristic running of the household and Kendra coming in and struggling with schedules and the # of kids. But, when it's time for Kendra to take charge the atmosphere is relaxed, they have fun like when Ashley was in charge and let the kids run wild for a few days when Kate was out of town.
And for Kate in LA, just reverse the actions and roles. I'll even bet at the end of the show Kate will say she learned from the experience to be more flexible and will try to have more fun with her kids.
I still don't get the whole idea of Kate being a part of this though. She's not a wife, there's no marital relationship for the spouses to better appreciate; in fact, I can't see any reason at all for her to do the show other than she has 8 kids and it's a big contrast with a younger mom who has only 1.
I have no problem Kate going to do a show (on her own) and earning an income, but she put the kids, once again, front and center and exploited them big time! She didn't just do this show - the kids did! They WORKED on their school break - AGAIN! If we're to believe Robert's source about the kids being apprehensive about her leaving them to be cared for by a stranger then -- SHAME ON YOU, KATE!
I'm disgusted that she's done this to the kids - AGAIN. Go and earn your living Kate, but leave the kids out of it. But, she can't can she? She's nothing without them. It makes me ill knowing that they'll never be free of her exploitation.
Well, it looks like Kate is now condoning what the hackers did, she just retweeted:
kateplusmy8
RT @MadBritishGuy: . @Kateplusmy8 Now has me and @Anonym0usNL protecting her. If you send her a nasty Tweet, get ready for the full force.
Is she really that stupid? This could really come back to haunt her big time.
I wonder if Kendra is going to get all the help that Kate has every week.
Starz22, no way! How could Kate look like the overworked, supermom if they show the help she really has. (snark)
I can picture them showing Kendra's disbelief when she reads Kate's rule book about the schedules and mountains of laundry she does and the volume of meals Kate prepares and the enormous house she cleans each week. HA. IMO, the show will be totally complimentary to Kate and will show her to be everything she's been telling people she is in her blogs - the overworked, over scheduled, super cook, mastermind, super mom.
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Well, it looks like Kate is now condoning what the hackers did, she just retweeted:
kateplusmy8
RT @MadBritishGuy: . @Kateplusmy8 Now has me and @Anonym0usNL protecting her. If you send her a nasty Tweet, get ready for the full force.
Is she really that stupid? This could really come back to haunt her big time.
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I saw that, Twit. Why is she awake at this time? Did she stay up, reading all of this garbage? Not only isn't she going to address it or tell both sides to back off, but she's retweeting it! She's nuts!
Where exactly is these children's father? Everyone says how unhealthy and wrong it is (and I agree) but why did their father allow this to happen in the first place?
Hmm, Kate just retweeted one of Milo's tweets about the Shoka post. It's 1:25am ET. I wonder if she is out in San Diego for that Coronado Valentine's Run that some were tweeting her about? Why else would she be tweeting now?
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Could be. The kids don't have school Friday or Monday...either she left them with the sitter or with Jon, or she took them with her. Maybe that's why there isn't any mention of her famous Valentine's Day breakfast.
Insomnia tonight. I need an all-night diner.
Is she really that stupid?
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In a word. Yes.
As for Kate's Anonymous cyber protectors/outers that are supposedly 'on the job' - they've exposed nothing yet that hasn't been known to the rabid sheeple for a long time. IMO they probably got their info from the people who did the initial outings. For Kate to support anything to do with this is stupid and she deserves the fallout that will most certainly come from supporting this.
I wonder if Kate has lost her manager because I can't see anyone advising her that endorsing this is wise. She alone has ruined every opportunity she's ever had, lost every media job through her own actions, and I guess she's following the same path to destroy even more of her reputation by promoting this bullying mess.
Well, it looks like Kate is now condoning what the hackers did, she just retweeted:
kateplusmy8
RT @MadBritishGuy: . @Kateplusmy8 Now has me and @Anonym0usNL protecting her. If you send her a nasty Tweet, get ready for the full force.
Is she really that stupid? This could really come back to haunt her big time.
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If Kate supports someone trying to out someone's driver's license and bank account, this woman is too far gone to ever have hope for her. She really has the IQ and emotional maturity of a 12 year old and serious mental health issues. She has no business being a celebrity or doing anything that would cause others to "look up to" her.
Robert posted that the swap thing with Kendra was happening. Milo and the sheeple tweeted never to believe ANYTHING that comes out of his mouth...that everything is a lie. What say you now, Milo?
I wonder if Kate has lost her manager because I can't see anyone advising her that endorsing this is wise. She alone has ruined every opportunity she's ever had, lost every media job through her own actions, and I guess she's following the same path to destroy even more of her reputation by promoting this bullying mess.
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I wonder how CM is going to feel about this swap.
We're talking about a woman who belched her sister's home-grown domestic violence all over the net without even the least regard for what she was saying and to whom she was saying it. She ain't exactly the model of decorum when it comes to ON LINE privacy,
LOL Reminds me of someone else too!
Where exactly is these children's father? Everyone says how unhealthy and wrong it is (and I agree) but why did their father allow this to happen in the first place?
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Because no one knows if he allowed it is the problem. They're divorced and last I heard share legal custody of the children (the important decisions, like education, religion, and binding them to contracts). If Kate wants to film, Jon has to take her to court to stop it if he doesn't agree. He's been overruled in the past and spent a lot of money to get overruled. Australia. Moreover, he may just be trying to keep the peace and not cause a war over one 45 minute episode that everyone knows is an absolute dead end to nowhere. I'm curious to hear a statement from him about this, though something tells me we're not getting that. Maybe he feels it's none of our business where he stands on this or what happened.
. IMO, the show will be totally complimentary to Kate and will show her to be everything she's been telling people she is in her blogs - the overworked, over scheduled, super cook, mastermind, super mom.
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Or....it could put to rest any doubt that Kate is overbearing, aloof, uninterested in raising children with or without a spouse, and very much involved with herself. Yet lacking in self awareness (thank you Carrie Ann!)
ABC might not love her TOO much. She's a
continuation of the DWTS joke. Here's the
uptight dancer spending time in a playboy bunny's real mansion with one child. See, she can't do that well either.
As we've said here many times, you cannot edit in what isn't there. Kste is not loving, kind
and interested in children. She is interested in Kate. That is what the viewer will see - Kate talking to this little boy about Kate.
Trashy concept and two trashy women. This is the media lfe she wants so badly? Kate Gosselin is a very stupid woman.
And I am so embarrassed for her children that a) they were forced to participate in this crapfest and b) must go back to school the Monday after this crapfest is aired. As if the kids, teachers and parents will not be talking behind their backs. So sad for them.
And yes, it rankles that someone occasionally pays her the bucks for her F list appearance. Hopefully the ratings will be minimal.
Trashy concept and two trashy women. This is the media lfe she wants so badly?
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Exactly. I wish she would really think about this and have some integrity. This is what she wants? To prance around doing reality show crap that no one watches or if they are only watch to make fun at her expense?
This is the life that she wants as opposed to a respectable, decent job as a nurse helping people, going to work every day with your head held high, being respected by real people and not fans who just want something from you, helping patients, providing comfort and sound medical care as people heal or maybe don't heal and die with you by their side comforting them. Being the face they see and the hand they hold at their worst moments. Doing a job that you can be PROUD of. Earning a paycheck with your own hard work to support your family. No one outside work, family and friends knows your name, but at least no one says your name with distain.
No, she wants to wife swap on ABC. This is what she wants instead of nursing folks.
Kate not only retweeted their tweet, now she is following them. Both their accounts were opened last year, one in Feb. and one in Aug. Today, they opened a joint twitter account @MBG_MrNL and the sheeple are now following that one. Kate probably doesn't realize that they also have a new account, because I'm sure she'd follow that one too.
I wonder if having Kate do this show was ABC's consolation gift to Kate for not having her on DWTS all-stars? Maybe that's why she wasn't upset that she wasn't asked.
I feel so sorry for the kids. How humiliating for them.
I feel like I've entered some kind of bizarre
theater where nothing makes any sense but it happens anyway. The actors just keep getting crazier and loonier and my head is exploding.
He's been overruled in the past and spent a lot of money to get overruled. Australia. Moreover, he may just be trying to keep the peace and not cause a war
I've never seen absolute proof of legal documents that Jon was 'overruled'. Besides, assuming he WAS, that was filming to cover a TLC contract.
This show is an entire different beast.
It would not be more important to me to 'keep the peace' and allow my children to be filmed with a porn star. No flipping way.
See no judge is going to stop a parent from filming a mainstream, ABC, TV-G/PG rated Wife Swap show for ONE episode. It's not going to happen. There are no examples of this ever happening. Judges don't stop things that they think are not important to stop. This isn't in that category of important. It was one weekend, no one would even miss their visitation or if they did it could easily be made up. One sex tape does not make her a porn star and this project is not porn.
I'm not saying I agree with the kids being filmed, I certainly don't. I'm saying I doubt there's really anyhing that could have been done to stop it no matter how much anyone might, or perhaps might not (who knows?) want to. It is hard to get judges excited about something that at face value, objectively is really pretty benign. Remember they really don't have an understanding of what these kids have been through over the years. They don't have our "expert" perspective. They haven't been following this like we have. And it's been nearly a year and half since they were last filmed, they have gotten a really long break, to the outside observer.
Honestly, if I were the judge, I doubt I would feel compelled to get involved in something like this. That's not a judge's job to interfere that much with a parent's affairs. We wouldn't want that, most people anyway. Until the law says otherwise and compels judges to get more involved, I'd let it pass. I wouldn't like it, but I wouldn't be able to base a ruling on stopping it on anything in the law, which is a judge's job.
A weekly series with a much bigger commitment, now that's something that if a parent REALLY wanted to stop it, they might, MIGHT have a shot in the dark at maybe stopping or at least restricting. MAYBE. So you can waste money on trying to stop this, money that really might be better served buying sports equipment for the kids or summer camp, or you can accept the law is what it is and some things sadly are out of your hands.
Admin said...
I'm curious to hear a statement from him about this, though something tells me we're not getting that. Maybe he feels it's none of our business where he stands on this or what happened.
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He already gave a statement in his People magazine interview in June 2012:
"Jon, who once took Kate to court over having their children on TV, has since had a change of mind.
“They miss it. Now it’s different. They’re older. I want the best for them.” "
http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2012/06/jon-gosselin-says-kate-gosselin-great-mother/
There are no examples of this ever happening.
And you know this for a fact, do you?
I guess if a judge doesn't think it's important enough or damaging enough to the children, then why the huge outcry?
Pearl clutching, anyone?
shame on Jon too said... 70
''......It would not be more important to me to 'keep the peace' and allow my children to be filmed with a porn star. No flipping way.''
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I know that this has been discussed on this blog before, because I remember commenting on this very point. I believe I said that since Robert said that the children were told to not say a word to Jon about what was going on, that he may have been unaware what was happening. If it was KK's time with the kids, it would be no effort to shut that gate and Jon be none the wiser till it was over...or too late to stop it.
You have to read the actual quote and not the narrative spin on it. He never said I want the kids back on TV. He said they miss it (which is probably true, I'm sure Kate tells them how much they miss it all the time) and they're older (true) and it's different, whatever that means. Sounds like careful choice of words to me. Why not just say yes I have no objections to the kids being on T.V. in fact I'd love to see them back on the tube? Why not just be clear? We talked about that quote at length when he said it. Jon has made it quite clear in private to many sources he never wants these kids back on TV ever again. Crystal clear. I never saw the value in causing a war in People magazine by shouting from the rooftops that Kate is never going to get her way again. There is a lot of value in placating Kate and saying yeah sure sure Kate if TLC comes knocking again I'd consider it. Was Wife Swap planned all the way back in June?? It seemed more like a spur of the moment midseason thing.
That said maybe he fully supports filming and more exploitation and isn't saying that just to keep Kate calm, in which case that would be pathetic. But if that's how you feel you might as well just own it instead of beating around the bush with cryptic quotes like it's "different" now. Jon was never one to be cryptic unless absolutely necessary.
And you know this for a fact, do you?
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Can you find an example? I can't.
I'm just stating the cold hard facts. You can't get judges to stop one 45 minute episode just because you don't like it.
I would love to hear Jon took this all the way to the Supreme Court trying to stop it, that he burned every last cent trying to prevent it. I doubt that's the case though.
I wonder if anyone has told Kate's new protectors/bullies/Anonys about her journals and about the child and animal abuse.
If they're such a stand-up group and so supportive of the innocent people who are bullied I'm sure they would never support a woman who, in her own words, flung her toddler into his crib by grabbing the hair on his head or who caged her 2 dogs so long that they had to bend the bars to escape. right? Their actions answer that question.
Actually that's what one of the sheeple was saying when this happened Remona. She was convinced that the kids squealed to Jon, that Jon then, outraged, leaked this news. It was all the kids' fault for "tattling." You can hardly squeal to your own father if he were in on it the whole time. It could be true, if it were Kate's custodial time and she had control of the legal decisions he may not have had to breathe a word about what she was up to to anyone, even their father. Ditto for him on his time.
Look at the # of Twitter followers of Kate's hackers and their # of tweets. I think Kate and her sheep have been had. LOL IMO they've aligned themselves with a group along the lines of the rabid sheeple who have outed some 'haters' and they have access to no more info than you or I can find, which isn't much and most of what they've posted so far is wrong. Check out the # of followers of the REAL Anonymous group and the people and activities they're interested in (international, political, etc - not a reality tv has-been). No comparison.
The real group: https://twitter.com/YourAnonNews
Please don't answer my posts without actually posting them. *sigh*
Charlie Sheen successfully stopped one of his ex wives from putting her kids on her reality show.
Dean's (of Tori and Dean) exwife was able to keep her kid off their reality show.
Eddie Cibrian was able to keep Brandi G's kids off her reality show.
I thought you were a lawyer in LA. Wouldn't you have been aware of this?
Charlie Sheen successfully stopped one of his ex wives from putting her kids on her reality show.
Dean's (of Tori and Dean) exwife was able to keep her kid off their reality show.
Eddie Cibrian was able to keep Brandi G's kids off her reality show.
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All of those examples you cited I've heard of, and all are series. Huge commitments. We are talking about one 45 minute episode. I said there were no examples of stopping kids from ONE episode of a reality show. I specifically said that maybe they could be stopped if this were a series they were going to be on all the time.
Wife Swap is not a series for these kids. They are going to be on one episode and their commitment is over with.
Maybe you missed this part of my post: "A weekly series with a much bigger commitment, now that's something that if a parent REALLY wanted to stop it, they might, MIGHT have a shot in the dark at maybe stopping or at least restricting."
We're also talking about NY/LA judges who tend to be far more aware of the dangers of exposing kids on reality T.V. than apparently Jon and Kate's judge is.
Shame I did post all of your posts. No need to get upset. Please don't accuse me of not posting them until you refresh.
It might be only one episode, but a big factor is the age of the kids. If the kids were apprehensive about this, Jon would have a better case.
Don't forget how one of them cried when Kate was going to NY for her birthday weekend with Jaime and leaving the kids with Ashley. This would be for a whole week, Kate leaving them while she's out in CA, and even though Ashley's there, so is a film crew of strangers invading their house.
Add to that the fact that the twins might be worried about being made public personalities again and teased at school just when all the hoopla has finally died down.
Kate has sunk to an all time low. She is obviously putting her CHILDREN to work so she doesn't have to get a REAL job herself! Despite my disgust with Kate, I could maybe see it if she did a yearly special (summertime--no school) so the kids could have a vacation/learning experience. Instead she stuck them with a no talent bimbo Kendra (this is why Kate tweeted don't judge a book by it's cover). WHY will Kate simply not get off her a** and get a job? Jon did it and Kate can too.
kk tweets again her support for the 'hackers' this a.m. And has added the two main ones as following:
Kate Gosselin@Kateplusmy8
@MadBritishGuy @Anonym0usNL @MelaniRomero25 @bullyville you are my heroes!!!! You swooped in to defend ME? I'm in total love!THX&keep it up!
Is she 'cracked up'?
Does she realize that these hackers, if they are that, are committing crimes and she condones it? I have this sense that they're kids being fed info from cj and her ilk. She really is stuck at age 12.
kateplusmy8
@Anonym0usNL don't worry, you're on my 'speed dial'... Oh I mean 'speed tweet' list lol. Thanks for cleaning house:)
Robert was right, AGAIN. And this totally explains CC firing Kate. I wonder how The Stir is going to like this? And the other moms?
The good news...Kate is on for only that one episode. The bad news...if the ratings are good, she will have the chops to squeeze her way back on TV. She was so quiet during Xmas, makes me think she was prepping (i.e., plastic surgery for making the rounds of the TV shows to promote this TRASH. Poor kids. How embarrassing!
@MadBritishGuy @Anonym0usNL @MelaniRomero25 @bullyville you are my heroes!!!! You swooped in to defend ME? I'm in total love!THX&keep it up!
I can't believe it. Well, I can since she's clearly dumb as a box of hair, but...she really doesn't realize she's endorsing illegal behavior, does she? Listen, I tend to side with Anonymous on most things, but what they do, activism or not, is illegal and members have gotten in serious trouble with the FBI and other agencies in the past. And it wouldn't be too hard to act- not that I would suggest it be done, but it would probably take the FBI (or even Anonymous themselves) like 45 minutes to find out who "Anonym0usNL" is. For every black hat, there's a white one close behind.
If I was her lawyer, I'd be freaking the f*ck out right now.
It's not that she won't 'get off her ass' and get a job, this is the job that she wants - media 110%. Her pathetic narcissistic juvenile mind believes a 'career' in Hollywood is coming her way; and here we have it, 45 minutes of network trash. I am sure she thinks her own series will follow.
here is the answer to how much people make on wife swap. Very All prior clearance for medical, psychological tests and exhaustive federal, national & local background checks are paid for by ABC TV. Then all approved contestants' expenses to include meals, snacks & drinks for entire family including pets provision for 2 weeks, airfare, hotel, car rentals, gasoline, personal wardrobe & props, linens, towels, & toiletries, etc. necessary for the shoot, plus an hour of fame on national television are also paid for by the network. There is a minimum payment ceiling of $20,000 for a couple and the maximum depends on the last year's joint tax returns filed with IRS. A premiere/special of a season also gets a hefty bonus (like an all expense paid trip for the family to Tokyo, Paris, etc.) from the network after the show airs and the rating meets the top 5 of the best watched show of the season. All rights belong to ABC including re-runs of shows with Lifetime.
Jane and Zelda Zee--Kate just keep digging that hole:
kateplusmy8
RT @MadBritishGuy: Although we hack, our hearts are in the right place seeming as we're doing it to protect someone. | See you all later.
So they state that they hack, and she still condones it. Does she even know what hacking is? She really has lost it--big time!
Isn't the whole point of the "swap" shows to show the families in the worst possible light for half the time so that the other mom can take over and run the house her way? Maybe they'll portray Kate as the rigid, drill sergeant and with Kendra the kids will be allowed to let loose because Kendra will be the fun-loving loosey-goosey mom. OR, maybe Kate will be the frazzled mom with 8 wild kids running around. Didn't Robert say something about the kids not being shown in the best of lights? Eh, who knows. This is what she's come to now. I don't think that her new hook-up with those folks on twitter are going to help her image. By condoning what they do she's proved that she is the bully. She'd really better watch her step with this one because, depending on what they do, it could lead to lawsuits and she's tweeted her support so that could cause trouble for her. After all, they're her heroes! Kate may have stepped in it big time now. She should have kept quite or told them that she doesn't condone "outing" people or gather personal informaton on them.
These kids may be teens, but they have threatened folks on her twit line, overstepped the boundries. kk's support is crazy and will hopefully cause her many woes. Sometimes ya just can't come up smelling of roses shaded in the rainbow farts and unicorns.
Even Milo tweeted the links to the info gathered on the 2 non-fans. I call these people, all of them, Sorry Sacks of S!&t.
I emailed Cafemom and voiced my concern over who will be next, the non-fans who comment on kk's blog.
Drop that shovel, kk.
This is really disgusting. So harmful to all the children involved. I used to think Kendra was a good mother despite her questionable past but to allow her little boy to stay with a child abuser? Yes, I guess Hank Sr were there, and it was all scripted, but I'm sure a little boy that young would be scared.He would miss his mommy.I thought she had said they wanted to shade Hank Jr from the spotlight.
And Kate! The kids would be ok with Ashley there- where was Jon? Kate always maintains she's a single mom, so why now a 'wife?' Imagine the ridicule the G kids will face, jokes about Hef etc.This will give the teachers something to talk about! I bet Kendra did show them a good time- that's fine, but I would not allow my kids to have spent time with someone with her past-yes, I'm being judgmental and Kendra seems to have some good qualities, but this is wrong.Kate really did pimp the kids out this time.
Speculation re ” Celebrity” Wife Swap: Ms Kreiders main entertainment value is to be the object of ridicule, the annoying irritating person that viewers can watch and say ”Can you BELIEVE she did that/said that/ acted so rude/mean/ungrateful/etc.” Then if the plotline of the show allows, she will learn a Life Lesson, or get her comeuppance, or both. If they can find enough footage to support any plot line like that.
Kendra has more positive PR than Ms Kreider, plus Kendra actually has a, oh what's the word, a... HUSBAND! Which means the show will get a mention from critics pointing out this glaring error in the title. How can you call it wife swap when one participant isn't married?
I must admit admin, I will be looking forward to your recap. And, guilty pleasure admission, when it gets rerun on Lifetime, if it's on when I am working in the kitchen, I would probably watch it then. Just last week I watched Wife Swap episode where Horoscope Mom had to swap with Western Horseback Ridin Mom. Horoscope Kid liked learning to ride horses, and Western Kids thought Horoscope Mom was weirdest thing they ever encountered.
Good morning all. I'll be back later to read through the comments, but I just saw this new post and have to say thank you Robert. To those who doubt and question you? Now can you say he's a liar?
You called it, and we believed it.
What. A. Fame. Whore.
I'm sure Kendra is lovely, but this woman is the antithesis to who Kate proclaimed to be while the getting was good with Christians.
Wow, can someone contact that pastor who blasted the people who couldn't believe he had Kate speak at his church? Can someone ask him what he thinks of Kendra "mothering" Kate's kids? A woman who's posed nude, done porn and shacked up with an 80 year old man, having threesomes and more?
Ugh.
oops. I went back and read Robert's post and he did name Ashley. Wonder if she was his source. In that case, bravo.
I deleted my previous comment questioning whether Ashley was the babysitter while Kendra was there. I presume Kendra only showed up for the filming while Ashley was there at the house full time. BUT, I am very disappointed that she was even involved. Confirms the RV episode was scripted. I hoped Ashley had seen the light, but it's all about fame, isn't it? The only way she could redemn herself is that she was Robert's source and was distressed about the kids, but now that I think about it, I doubt it.
Well, well, it looks like the circumstantial evidence garnered by KG and KW's tweets was correct after all. The Pinellas jury could have learned a thing or two about putting two and two together from us.
My, my, my... Looks like we are witnessing the implosion of Kate's Twitter. I give it another 2 weeks tops, before it's shut down.
Poor, poor Kate. She has Farina in her skull.
Scratch that! Poor, poor Gosselin kids. They have years and years of shame ahead of them, because of their fame-ho momster.
Oh well.
Happy Valentine's Day all :o)
Well, well, it looks like the circumstantial evidence garnered by KG and KW's tweets was correct after all. The Pinellas jury could have learned a thing or two about putting two and two together from us.
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LOL. Gut instincts, the ability to put two and two together and common sense triumph again.
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Pretty sure the sheep did swear that Kate would never do a show with someone "like" Kendra. I happen to think Kate is way worse, but whatever
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Absolutely they did. And they called RH a liar when he blogged about it.
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8
It's all about LOVE here today, (&everyday now) thanks to @MadBritishGuy and @Anonym0usNL !! Bring on the love, everyone! I'm feeling it:)
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She's actually thanking these guys making threats and outing people! And equating it with "love"????
She really is certifiable. Where's Pink? We need her straight jacket!
We all know this show will be heavily edited and Khate will fake all the lessons "she" learned and then "she" will talk about yearning for a great husband like Hank. If this show gets good ratings and I mean IF, how can they distinguish between the Kendra and Khate fans? There's really no way! Let's hope NCIS and Off Their Rockers gets the best ratings ever! Oh- and I hope ABC totally throws Khate under the bus. The bottom line still is- Khate is NOT a wife!
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 107
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8
It's all about LOVE here today, (&everyday now) thanks to @MadBritishGuy and @Anonym0usNL !! Bring on the love, everyone! I'm feeling it:)
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She's actually thanking these guys making threats and outing people! And equating it with "love"????
She really is certifiable. Where's Pink? We need her straight jacket!
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I'm afraid it's too late for a straight jacket.
Kate committed twittercide.
Yes, "bring on the love, everyone...I need to be adored!!"
She is so puke-inducing.
According to Robert, the Gosselin kids had no idea what was going on. It sounds like they came home to a stranger and that their mother had left for a week without saying goodbye.
BUT, I am very disappointed that she was even involved. Confirms the RV episode was scripted. I hoped Ashley had seen the light, but it's all about fame, isn't it? The only way she could redemn herself is that she was Robert's source and was distressed about the kids, but now that I think about it, I doubt it.
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I totally disagree with that. Ashley knows these kids will be filmed whether she is there or not. I think she also believes that few people understand them and the situation like she does and that she is one person the children can really trust when they are going through something like intensive filming. Of course she would want to be the one there for them. It doesn't mean she supports it. Just like visiting someone in prison doesn't mean you support what they did.
Are my eyes deceiving me or is ABC.com not promoting Celebrity Wife Swap on the website?
It's only 12 days away...decisions, decisions.
Hmmmm...we all know that Kate does *nothing* without a hidden agenda.
We were speculating that the recent blog posts/tweets were to fend off Robert's book coming out.
Now I'm wondering if her recent blog posts/tweets aren't to fend off how she behaved (or her kids behaved) on the Wife Swap thing. She might be a little worried about how she's going to be portrayed?
As in, you can't edit in what isn't there. And maybe she's worried that they didn't edit *out* enough.
Just a thought.
I loathe this "woman" and "her" entire brand--NCIS ratings have been getting better and better each week. The last two shows were their top 2 highest rated shows in all of their 10 seasons-over 22 million viewers! I love that show, so I definitely will not being watching Kate make a fool of herself again.
I took a brief look at some of the CWS videos on youtube. There was an interview with Tracey Gold and Carnie Wilson from GMA, about their appearance on the show. So Kate and Kendra may be doing an interview about the show.
Feb. 26 is also the day that GMA announces the new DWTS cast, so what better tie-in than to have two former contestants on discussing the premiere of CWS? Although Tracey's and Carnie's appeared the day after their episode aired.
If Ashley is on the show, for now I'll try to give her the benefit of the doubt that she's doing it because of the kids. Kate needed someone to be the "husband", and I doubt that they would have Kendra take on all 8 kids by herself. Most likely, Ashley was approached because she is one person who knows the kids and the kids would be most comfortable with her being around. Also, she didn't have to spend time with Kate--another incentive for her to do it.
If anyone is interested, you can see the GMA interview with Carnie and Tracey here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pArkTyURW8
I feel like that almost deserves a separate post. Kate Gosselin supports illegal activities of HACKERS. WTF?!
I can see my top 10 worst moments list won't be hard this year either.
Was it Fido who said she feels like she's living in some alternate universe? No kidding. Where up is down and down is up, no one has any common sense or treats people with basic respect, no one is freaking NORMAL!!!
You know I have to say, good for Scott deciding that "recent events"--obviously, the filming of this, wasn't what was right for his company or his philanthropy. He took a stand on this and it meant he had to fire Kate. It takes a strong person to stand up for themselves so steadfastly that they are willing to let the axe fall like that.
Kate got CHOPPED!
I'm surprised someone as dumb as her didn't hear that hackers are bad.
Usually dumb immature people believe whatever society tells them, and the prevailing opinion in society is undoubtedly "Hackers are bad." Did Kate not get this memo? Um, Hackers are BAD, Kate. All this proves to me is she doesn't watch the news or pay attention to ANYTHING.
It might be only one episode, but a big factor is the age of the kids. If the kids were apprehensive about this, Jon would have a better case.
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It certainly helps to have screaming crying "I don't wanna" kids. I really don't know if that was the case though. I think Kate has these kids so brainwashed into thinking they LOVE filming and being famous. These kids have also proven over and over they will say anything to appease Kate, and you can't blame them for that. It's to their benefit she is calm, happy, and doing stuff to stay famous because that makes their lives more peaceful. If anything, I'm willing to bet these kids would tell a judge they wanted to do this. Sigh.
One pill makes you larger
And one pill makes you small
And the ones that mother gives you
Don't do anything at all
Go ask Kate
When she's ten feet tall
And if you go chasing rabbits
And you know you're going to fall
Tell 'em a hookah smoking caterpillar
Has given you the call to
Call Kate
When she was just small
When the men on the chessboard
Get up and tell you where to go
And you've just had some kind of mushroom
And your mind is moving
low
Go ask Kate
I think she'll know
When logic and proportion
Have fallen sloppy dead
And the White Knight is talking backwards
And the Red Queen's "off with her head!"
Remember what the doormouse said;
"Feed YOUR HEAD...
Feed your head"
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jefferson Airplane retake on White Rabbit
One fan doesn't seem too thrilled about the show:
Sandie @SandieBellz
@ajcradiotv @KendraWilkinson @Kateplusmy8 Huh? Wife Swap? Not what I expected.
Those kids don't have power....YET.
Maybe, they can pout or be sluggish in response. Maybe, the twins can get in a sly dig or two.
The day will come when they understand and take control. It probably won't be pretty.
Does it ever occur to Kate and her tweeties, that if these hackers can get info on the "bullies", they can also get info on them?
They're all falling over each other praising them, but not one of them seems to be worried that it could happen to them. Do they believe that their undying love for Kate is going to protect them?
In my opinion, there is no way that Jon didn't know about this ahead of time. He was probably fully informed and fully aware. And frankly, if he doesn't care, why should anyone else? They are his kids after all.
Marie
Kate is a twit exactly!! Astounding.
If they support hacking others than they should have no problem if they themselves are hacked. This is a prime example of well just not thinking.
I don't support hacking because its wrong and I wouldn't want it done to me. Even if its someone I don't like I don't support it. They can't separate it. All is fair if you don't like the other person.
Kevin in We Need to Talk about Kevin was a hacker. Just saying!!
I see kk meets Skeevie in Mexico, 45 yrs from now....
www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNn52GMD_Tw
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If you don't like to watch parody from MadTv, this is not for you. I know all about strokes having taken care of my Mom following her devastating CVA and in no way want or wish to offend anyone here.
I said way back that this was a pre-emptive strike - I think it's TWO....one for wife swap and how much will be shown of her diva behavior. I think Ashley spends time with the kids when Kate is not there, and she will say things during this episode to continue what happened on the RV episodes. I think Kate is extremely nervous of how she is going to be perceived about doing this show and she is nervous about the re-release of the book. Kate never thinks!! she responds in the moment!! "oh good, a tv show!! I get ONE kid for a whole week AND I get to hob-knob with rich people in CA. Won't that be fun" and then AFTER the fact, she freaks out because she can't help...well, being KATE! so then she tries to backpeddle. It's her pattern guys. Nothing is changing. The whole bully thing is about both the tv show AND the book! She already knows she is going to get backlash. LOOKS LIKE ROBERT WAS RIGHT! THE CALM BEFORE THE STORM! lOL
'Bladerunner' Pistorius from the Olympics charged with the murder of his model girlfriend, shot her 4 times, had history of domestic violence. May she R.I.P.
I don't support hacking because its wrong and I wouldn't want it done to me. Even if its someone I don't like I don't support it. They can't separate it. All is fair if you don't like the other person.
Kevin in We Need to Talk about Kevin was a hacker. Just saying!!
I would caution against portraying all hackers as disturbed individuals and potential school shooters. Not because "they'll get you!!11!!1" but because, like ALL aspects of life, there are "good" hackers and "bad" hackers (or "white hat"/"black hat").
Black hats are the ones that go after private citizens, steal bank account numbers, and do other nefarious deeds. White hats, while their methods are still illegal, have good intentions– to expose flaws in computer security, stop pedophilia, uncover corruption. Hell, most major technological and telecommunications firms have hackers working for them, to figure out what could be hacked into and exploited. Banks hire hackers to prevent peoples identity and financial information from being stolen.
I don't hack but being a computer person, I run in the same circles as people who have or do so (it's not exactly something I ask). Is it still illegal? Hell yes, which is why Kate is being VERY stupid about this. But, most hackers aren't troubled loners the way that most people who read "Catcher in the Rye" aren't potential murderers.
And with that, I end my computer nerd defense ;)
These are clearly not good hackers though if there is any way to parse out the good ones. I don't support such illegal activity even for good. There are many other legal ways to prove their point. That's called a slippery slope!
Kate and Kendra look alike, eerie.Why would Kendra agree to this- she's had about 3 shows already and married to Hank who is wealthy- why???
Is she duped by Kate or out for her own 'career?'
Zelda, I do agree with you. Someone in my family who is very computer savy hacked into an online gaming developer as a teen and made 'adaptations' to suit him. He was tracked via ISP by the co. His parents received an official letter. He was of course told to never come to their site, ever. If he did and made changes they would file charges.
Also, in the future they would like to interview him for a job. Gamers.....
Admin, if Ashley is on the show, then I disagree with you. Why on earth would Ashley have that breakdown in the RV episode anyway? I don't know where you are coming from defending Ashley. She got paid, didn't she?
There are many other legal ways to prove their point.
What about cases where companies hire hackers with the intent to find the exploitable weaknesses in their infrastructure? It's still illegal, but the public benefits from it. (Forbes article about the topic: http://www.forbes.com/sites/firewall/2010/04/27/inside-the-brains-of-a-professional-bank-hacking-team/ )
You can support hacking or not, but if you use email, have a bank account, a cell phone or have ever purchased anything online, trust me, you've benefited from a hacker going there first and making sure the average customer would be safe from online identity theft and other nastiness.
(FWIW, I don't support what's going on on Twitter, and honestly I doubt Anonym0ousNL is even a hacker– it's not something anyone with any sense would come right out and proclaim, considering it's illegal as Hell and it would take no time at all to find out who is behind the account.)
Formerly Duped-Kendra must have signed some kind of deal with ABC. She is also going to be a contestant on their new show "Splash" which premieres on Mar. 19. "Splash" is a celebrity reality competition which involves diving. Kendra is one of the 10 contestants. You can read about it here:
http://abc.go.com/shows/splash
Kate must be disappointed that she wasn't asked for that show either. She could have showed off her amazingish bikini bod.
Why would it be illegal for a company to hire security experts to test their infrastructure for vulnerabilities? Its their infrastructure. I don't take issue with that. I don't see how a controlled internal test is illegal. Sounds rather responsible.
Kate is a Twit: Thanks for the update. Why are these non-celebrities continuously being promoted? What did Kendra do except live with Hef?
I guess there was an audience for the Playboy mansion shows, but why is her life interesting or her diving abilities- oh right, her fake bod. Yes, I can see how Kate must feel overlooked- she has celebrity boobs after all.
I saw a refreshing bit on Ellen with Keira Knightly. Keira was angry that her breasts are always photoshopped to make her appear to have a larger bust when she has a great slim build and small in proportion chest.Women come in all shapes and sizes and she did not want to be thrown into the expected Hollywood mold of being bigger busted than she is.
They're all falling over each other praising them, but not one of them seems to be worried that it could happen to them. Do they believe that their undying love for Kate is going to protect them?
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Not to mention that it is an illegal activity. If a sheeple provides information for a hacker, it's a conspiracy. The two who were outed have been outed for sometime, and I think that most know exactly where that information came from. Problem is, they mixed up the identities! I don't understand that these people (both sheeple and hackers) are so stupid as to think that they are above the law. If someone who is hacked pursues it hard enough, these people, Kate's biggest supporters, will be arrested. I have no doubt that it's going to come down to that. They just don't get it. The sick part is that Kate CONDONES it and thanks them for it, not only the sheeple, but the hackers themselves. These two hackers admitted on their timelines that they hack, and one even stated that he is making a threat.
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8
It's all about LOVE here today, (&everyday now) thanks to @MadBritishGuy and @Anonym0usNL !! Bring on the love, everyone! I'm feeling it:)
Oh, my gosh. She really tweeted that? I was reading Twitter last night and checked those two guys' timeliines. Unbelievable. Wouldn't you think that SHE would have read their tweets and figured out that these are NOT the kind of people she needs to be associated with? She's really more delusional and mentally ill than we thought. To say that she's "off" is an understatement.
Someone mentioned the pastor of the Roswell church who sent a poster here the snotty e-mail. I thought about this, too...wonder what his thoughts are now. It's no surprise that Kate doesn't go to church anymore. How could she face the parishioners?
ZeldaZee, thanks for the info on white hats and black hats. Never thought about hacking that way.
Admin, a new post about cafe mom bogger promoting harassment and illegal hacking sounds just dandy! I bet these hacker guys are bored middle school students anyway.
That Sandie fan is the same one that asked K8 not to do things like WWHL again, that it is not what her fan base wants. Meanwhile K8 was filming CWS she was seen at that raunchy nightclub
miloandjack
@Kateplusmy8 "celebrity families w/different values ...trade lifestyles, kids& homes (but not bedrooms)," LOL Kendra got #GrowABoyFriend :)
She's still stuck on the GrowABoyFriend...one track mind. For heaven's sakes, Milo, get thyself to PA and you and Kate get a room. That's all that seems to be on your mind. Get it over and done.
miloandjack
@Kateplusmy8 @annoldenburg Well....its abt time this news got out!! Girl can't wait 2see this! LOL We just need U swapped out weekly! :)
But. Milo...you are Kate's best friend. You have each other on speed dial. You know EVERYTHING that goes on in Kate's life because she tells you. Certainly you knew about this when it happened. Wait a minute...Robert said that this was taking place and you said not to believe anything he said -- it was all lies. Hmmmm...
Why would it be illegal for a company to hire security experts to test their infrastructure for vulnerabilities? Its their infrastructure. I don't take issue with that. I don't see how a controlled internal test is illegal. Sounds rather responsible.
My point, if I have one, is that it's still considered hacking. So to imply that all hackers are bad or like the antagonist in "Kevin" is pretty far off the mark. Just being "a hacker" doesn't automatically make a person bad.
I don't condone outing someone's bank account information or anything of the sort in any way shape or form. That's just plain wrong. Testing the infrastructure of a bank? Perfectly fine. Discovering someone has a cache of child pornography and alerting the authorities? Illegal, but personally I see it as the morally right thing to do. I'm not saying "rah-rah, hackers!" because there is that element that will use their knowledge to do bad. Just for me personally, it's a lot more of a grey area than black and white.
Oh! Zelda my definition of hacking includes illegal. Anything else is computer activity. Maybe my definition is wrong.
I am laughing so hard here. Milo is so stupid that she thinks these hackers know their stuff. She doesn't realize that they got the two non-fans identities mixed up! What a complete doofus!
miloandjack
@strawberrypsu @MadBritishGuy @Kateplusmy8 @Anonym0usNL Whatever...he knows his stuff. Were U surprised 2see Walt is really a woman? :)
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A legal question for admin...
Since this is taking place on Twitter and Kate has knowledge of it and is condoning it (actually thanking these people), if someone is hacked (bank accounts, etc) or death threats are made and charges are brought, can Kate be held responsible because it is her Twitter page? Is she exempt from all of this, or is she an accessory in a conspiracy?
Oh! Zelda my definition of hacking includes illegal. Anything else is computer activity. Maybe my definition is wrong.
"Hacking" by definition is ANY kind of "infiltration/penetration" through unauthorized means– not "unauthorized" as in, the bank (for example) didn't give permission for the Systems Admin to do it, but that the Admin accessed files that they were not "given" the proper route/codes to do so...with.
Wow, that made no sense. Let's say as an example, you wanted me to check the online security/integrity of 15 Minutes. You give me permission to do so, but you don't give me any of your administrative passwords or files– my job is to figure out how to access those and if other people can access them as well, just by starting blind on the homepage. You may have allowed me to do it, but I'm still hacking.
Does any of that make sense? It's really more semantics than anything.
I'm a techie and have white hat friends who work in security. Their activities are not illegal as they have "permission" to hack their employers systems.
The part of this that made me laugh is the part about being "famous hackers." Hacking depends on anonymity. If you become famous, your usefulness as a hacker is done. There are famous hacker groups, but they do all they can to hide their names.
From Kate's latest "bog" post at The Stir...
"In my oversleep-induced insanity, I noticed that the kids seemed to be moving quickly (for once!) and even seamlessly — almost as if they were pre-programmed sleeping mummies, set on overdrive! At some point, I observed their fast streamlined movements for an extra brief nanosecond (that's all I had to devote to observations on this given morning!), decided it was quite impressive, and voiced my approval to my little robots!"
Well, how flattering for those kids.
Does she really believe this makes her sound like a good mother? The yelling, the barking, the "nanosecond" of observation. Approval because they were responding like robots, is she for real?
She's trying to martyr herself at the expense of those poor kids.
Disgusting.
I won't even go into what I think about CWS...you've all pretty much covered it.
Hello? Isn't hacking bullying to the extreme? And Kate doesn't care that it's happening on her twitter? Hypocrite
She'd better watch out because someone could turn her and her two little hacker buddies in to the FBI. If someone makes a formal complaint they have to investigate. Kate can have all kinds of shit raining down on her in the near future and an umbrella may not help. She could have a lot of 'splainin to do.
The part of this that made me laugh is the part about being "famous hackers." Hacking depends on anonymity. If you become famous, your usefulness as a hacker is done. There are famous hacker groups, but they do all they can to hide their names.
This made me laugh, too. Yes, there are famous hackers...in prison. Or in hiding. Or in countries without a US extradition treaty. It's not something you really go around bragging about!
miloandjack
@KendraWilkinson @Kateplusmy8 Hey there Kendra..we R lookin 4ward 2this! Do U have new appreciation 4what Kate does? #CrazyLifeEveryDay :)
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Oh, for Pete's sake. It didn't take long for Milo to latch on to Kendra, did it? First Deanna, now Kendra. You know, I used to feel a tad bit sorry for Milo. I thought maybe she was just a harmless, over-zealous fan who was lonely and wanted acknowledgement from others who would pay some attention to her.
Now I realize that she is just plain nuts.
Kate is neither a celebrity or a wife. I just don't get it.
I just have to shake my head over kk's suberuber fan twits and articles re: Celebrity Wife Swap, speaking as if the show will be Live.
I guess a nanosecond must seem like a lifetime to them
Monday night TV also includes Jerseylicious and Real Housewives of Beverly Hills (don't judge, these are my two guilty pleasures). I guess I won't be watching CWS!
Kate sure found time to aim and click her camera to take that pic of the kids though.
Terri said... 154
Kate is neither a celebrity or a wife. I just don't get it.
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Most of us here don't, which is why we can't help her in her quest to remain famous by exploiting her underage children in any form of media.
#SnarkingonKatenotyouTerri.
CWS is scheduled for Tuesday night not Monday. Anyway, I thought this was interesting:
Kendra has 2,118,730 Twitter followers and has sent 6,287 tweets with 455 following
Khate has 128,723 Twitter "followers" and has sent 18,134 with 52 following
Seems like Kendra has less time to tweet-lol!
Just to show you how eclectic my viewing is, I also watch Bunheads (with Sutton Foster) on Monday nights. Sorry Kate, my Monday night viewing is booked solid.
I call BS on her story about being late. She writes
"Meanwhile, I made haste to the kitchen where I packaged six bags of Honey Nut Cheerios to be eaten on the way to the bus stop (Cara and Mady would grab their own quick version of breakfast as usual because they like to choose for themselves"
which implies that all 8 were involved in this mad rush to get to the bus on time. However, 2 hours after she tweeted about being late, she tweeted this:
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8
@AmyB3312 my nap is done and now in attacking the day! I do have one sick child at home so not going anywhere fast lol
So when did this child get sick? And if the child was sick, he/she was still able to rush around and get ready for school in 9, count em' 9 minutes?
Then she says they overslept because her phone was dead, so the alarm never rang(she doesn't have an alarm clock in her room, other than the phone?) and that although the kids have alarms clocks "for some odd reason, in the deep dark coldness of winter, they must have crawled deeper under their fluffy blankets and ignored the annoying beeps ... And I also happen to know that they were all hoping for a huge snow storm that would have let them sleep in, so their mental alarm clocks weren't even set!"
As we said when she tweeted it-out of 8 kids, not one of them responded to their alarm?
I think Kate is now planting ideas on twitter, to see how her tweeties respond and if she gets a good response, then she'll make up a story about it.
My opinion of Kendra Wilkerson is that she will do just about anything to keep her D-list celebrity status. Of the three "girls next door", I believe she's the only who made the biggest success out of being on that show. That's not really saying much, as Holly Madison's biggest career opportunity after that show ended was being on a TV commercial for Ultra Slim (or some other diet product). As to Bridget (who actually seemed the nicest and most normal of the three women), haven't heard from or seen anything of her since the Girls Next Door was canceled.
I do believe Kendra loves her son Hank Jr. very much. But I also believe she is consumed with earning money via celebrity. She seems unable to come up with another way to generate an income - probably because she doesn't have much education or other skills that would help her do so. In her mind, she's got to keep doing whatever it takes - sex tape, DWTS (her biggest break, but it didn't really lead to anything), this ridiculous Wife Swap show with Kate Gosselin of all people, and now the diving show. It reeks of desperation. Next, she'll go ten rounds with Tanya Harding in a mud pit or something equally humiliating. Although I think Kendra has good qualities, she is severely lacking in class and grace - which is why she hasn't been able to successfully cross over from sex bunny to mainstream likeability.
I'm disappointed if Jon signed off on this wife swap show. I hope this is the last time that Kate can use her children to muscle her way back onto tv. I hope the ratings on this Wife Swap show crash and burn.
Just stopping by to say Happy Valentine's Day to Admin and to all the good posters here! Hope you each have a wonderful day.
Hi, everyone. I haven't been here for awhile so I wanted to just come over and wish everyone a very happy and sweet Valentine's Day! God bless.
I don't think the "hackers" that are protecting Kate and doing her bullying for her are "THE" Anonymous hackers. I think they're a couple of teens who bully people and use the threat of hacking to scare their targets. The info this particular duo, along with Bullyville.com, have about haters (which they've gotten wrong so far) is what they've been fed by Kate's sheeple.
It figures Kate would align herself with people of this caliber. The REAL Anonymous group focuses on politics, corruption, real crimes, not z-list reality tv has beens who think they've been wronged.
Dwindle!!! Hello. Happy Valentine's Day to you, too.
Two new topics for Sue Buddy...Kendra and hackers!
And Sue thought she was going into "retirement" unless Kate did something of interest!
Once again, Kate didn't disappoint!
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In my opinion, there is no way that Jon didn't know about this ahead of time. He was probably fully informed and fully aware. And frankly, if he doesn't care, why should anyone else? They are his kids after all.
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As you said, this is your opinion. But we have no way of knowing for sure what Jon knew about this filming, or when he knew it. So I won't judge him and say he doesn't care.
In fact, I will go so far as to say that he does care, very much, about his children. That is something I've seen with my own two eyes, while the show was aired. I also saw how Kate treated her own children, and used them as props. She continues to use them, to get her ugly mug on tv.
I believe Admin is probably right - if Jon did know ahead of time about the filming, even if he did file some sort of motion with the court that oversees their child custody orders, that doesn't mean the court would grant his request that the children not be filmed.
After all, the judge overseeing their case already overruled Jon once before, when he didn't want them to fly to Australia and be filmed. The judge ruled against him. What makes any of us think that same judge would now rule for him, if the filming project didn't even involve the children leaving their home, and was only for several days?
Why would Kendra agree to this- she's had about 3 shows already and married to Hank who is wealthy- why???
Is she duped by Kate or out for her own 'career?'?
Hank is far from wealthy. He had a football career that lasted only a few seasons and he didn't earn that much each season anyway. She's the major breadwinner in the family. They've had a couple reality tv seasons about their family, but under the name of Kendra. She's definitely in this to make or further her own career, such that it is.
"Hello? Isn't hacking bullying to the extreme? And Kate doesn't care that it's happening on her twitter? Hypocrite "
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Of all the dumb things Kate has done, and there have been plenty, I think that this latest stunt (siding with the hackers) has to rank right up there with the most stupid. What in the world is she thinking?
Although I think Kendra has good qualities, she is severely lacking in class and grace - which is why she hasn't been able to successfully cross over from sex bunny to mainstream likeability.
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Is Kendra's porn tape still available online, or has it been removed? Not that I'm going to be looking at it, but I was wondering if now that she's a mother if she's deleted "those" things from her past?
Happy Valentine's Day to LMG and Dwindle!! Miss your stories and humor very much. Happy Valentine's to you Dmasy and all posters here+ Admin
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I appreciated your explanations re hacking - and why it can be a grey area at times. I agree that hacking is illegal, but that sometimes people hack with good motives and do turn up activity that should be exposed and brought to light. I also agree that believing all hackers must also be mentally unbalanced is not an accurate portrayal of hackers. No group can be so simply colored one way or another -- as all groups of people are comprised of individuals, who will run the gamut of all personality types.
This is the kind of person that Kate considers one of her "cyber bodyguards" that she loves so much.
Mad British Guy @MadBritishGuy 13 Feb
I got my gilfriend 4 Valentines Day presents.... I am definitely getting a blow job tomorrow. #EpicWIN!
Then when a non-fan pointed this tweet out to Milo, Milo replies:
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack
@strawberrypsu @MadBritishGuy @Kateplusmy8 Im not interested N his sex life. Just glad he is rounding up bullies. It needs 2stop.
And a little bit more of the conversation:
strawberrypsu
@MiloandJack @MadBritishGuy @Kateplusmy8 @Anonym0usNL U do know he's a teenage boy tweeting about blowjobs?
To which the guy replies:
MadBritishGuy
@strawberrypsu @miloandjack @kateplusmy8 @anonym0usnl Yes, I am adolescent and yes, I do get blow jobs. SUE ME.
What more can I say? Nice company you're keeping, Kate.
@MiloandJack @MadBritishGuy @Kateplusmy8 @Anonym0usNL U do know he's a teenage boy tweeting about blowjobs?
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@strawberrypsu @miloandjack @kateplusmy8 @anonym0usnl Yes, I am adolescent and yes, I do get blow jobs. SUE ME.
Hi Dwindle and LMGS - Happy Valentine's Day to you both.
What more can I say? Nice company you're keeping, Kate.
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Maybe Milo has her eye on him as a potential "suitor" for Kate, so Kate can give her Growaboyfriend to Milo! :)
They're all crazy.
Kate doesn't think. She never has. She never checks into these people. All she had to do was go on his timeline and see what kind of a person he is. She doesn't care, and that to me, is really bizarre.
Dwindle, LoveMyGrandsons ---
Hello and Happy Valentine's Day to you both, too. It's good to see your names here again. I hope you're doing well and I'm keeping my fingers crossed you'll stop in more often. You're both missed.
Holly Madison's biggest career opportunity after that show ended was being on a TV commercial for Ultra Slim (or some other diet product).
After the 3 girlfriends 'E' reality show ended Holly created a very lucrative career for herself in Las Vegas doing some kind of "Peep Show" (or something like that).
Sorry my last post came out a bit messy-I should really preview before I post. Anyway, I don't think anyone posted this tweet from Kate:
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8
@MadBritishGuy @Anonym0usNL @MelaniRomero25 @Bullyville you are my heroes!!!! You swooped in to defend ME? I'm in total love!THX&keep it up!
She's in "total love" with 2 adolescent hackers, and is encouraging them in their quest. Isn't that called "contributing to the delinquency of a minor"?
Dwindle and LMG-So happy to see you here. Happy Valentine's Day to both of you and to everyone else on this blog.
truth_teller201
@Anonym0usNL @kateplusmy8 @madbritishguy It's about time someone exposes these evil haters! Thank you, you ROCK!
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Lord up above, these sheeple are stupid. How was anyone "exposed?" The identities of the two who were supposedly "outed" by adolescent hackers have been known for quite some time. Two "outed," and even then they couldn't get it right.
ROL posted an article about Kate and Kendra, titled "Kate Gosselin’s Kids Traumatized By Wife Swap With Kendra Wilkinson – We Told You First!"
They have several quotes from Robert's blog post about the filming. At least they're keeping Robert's name out there and also showing that he wasn't lying when he made that post.
I only wish they would now have an article titled "Kate Gosselin gives full support to cyber-hackers".
http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2013/02/kate-gosslin-wife-swap-kendra-wilkinson/
So if Kate's episode of CWS is in the top 5 she gets a free trip? So this is the way for her to get to London? I will not contribute to that wicked witch getting any free. For those who must watch...there are other ways of watching without giving her the ratings.
As for these hacker people....What are they exposing? How did they out that Walt guy? Also,isn't it against the law? I would think that Kate would be responsible for any wrong doing or have a part in any damage being done.She knows what these people are doing.She has accepted their help, thier "protection". Kate has thanked them. Wouldn't that be along the lines of ....say a teacher is complaining about her husband to some of her students...saying how mean and nasty he is and how she wishes something would/could be done to him. The students tell the teacher,we have you'r back,we got this...teacher says thank you so much I feel the love. The next day the husbands house is tp'd and his tires are slashed...the students are busted. Couldn't the teacher be charged along with the students?
You really can't make this stuff up.
pamelauribe5
@katiecouric KNOW you hate bullying. Can you please check out Kate Gosselin's timeline and see the tweets she endures. #CyberBully Tell ppl
pamelauribe5
@Kateplusmy8 everyone: please tweet everyone you follow--Oprah, Ellen, Katie, allllllll of them. Just ask them to LOOK at Kate's timeline--
Yes, let them ALL check out Kate's timeline, so that they can see how she condones hacking.
With friends like them, who needs enemies?
*waves to Dwindle and LMG
Happy Valentines Day to you and all my "coffee klatch" ladies!
Oh, and thanks for the advice on my foot. Wound up going to the Dr about it yesterday. Had to do something when the pain kept me from walking to Pottery Barn.8( It's Achilles Tendinitis. Ouchie!
Dwindle and LMG, thanks for stopping by! I miss both of you.
Milo is absolutely beside herself today, as I predicted. lol Can't wait to hear all about her spa day with Kate, Deanna and Kendra. Geesh, what a loon.
So after this show airs and the handful of fans calm down, what next Kate? Back to mediocre blogging and taking care of a mansion and eight, count 'em eight, kids? Don't get too excited about her future, fans. Heh.
As for these adolescent, foul-mouthed hackers, geez-oh-man. Whomever brought them into the fold on this should be ashamed of what she/he has done to further drive any respectability Kate had left right off the cliff. Idiot.
Shaking my head, but laughing.
Happy Valentine's Day to everyone.
ROL is not praising Kate now. Very unflattering article.
I hope Robert's book is close to ready. This new press for Kate could work for him.
Yahoo also has the story, which they picked up from US Weekly. The majority of the comments are negative to Kate, not Kendra. I did like this one comment:
"the kids will never know the difference, two stupid blondes with fake boobs"
http://tv.yahoo.com/news/kate-gosselin-kendra-wilkinson-trade-lives-celebrity-wife-160000323-us-weekly.html
As for these hacker people....What are they exposing? How did they out that Walt guy? Also,isn't it against the law?
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The Walt guy was outed some time ago, allegedly by the master detective sheeple and/or her minions. There was no outing as such, and the hackers also "outed" another non-fan who also had been "outed" previously. Trouble is, they got the two of their identities confused. Adolescents can be so, well, adolescent.
Hi, all, this is OT, so skip if you want. I know nothing about ships, and this may be a dumb question, but how come another big Cruise ship couldn't get to the stalled Cruise ship, and bring all of the passengers onto it? I just don't understand!
I'm trying to catch up today but busy. So many comments on both hot topics. It's' crazy.
Am I understanding that there are some here who work closely with computers and understand the business of hacking and perhaps know some hackers? Can those of you who do find out the IDs of that anonymous guy in the Netherlands and the Mad British Guy?
HELLO LMG & Dwindle. Glad to see you even if it's just for a brief hello. I miss you guys and all the others who have left. Happy Valentine's Day to all. We've been given 59 minutes and today is my early day so I'm off for a nice 4 day weekend! YEA ME!
Happy Valentines Day to Dwindle and LMG!
I imagine the 8 Gosselin children will be encouaged to be overly busy and demanding of Kendra, thus putting Kate right back in to that super-mom category. I bet they will show poor Kendra not coping well.
Kate will likely lap up the opportunity to be cast as the mother of just one child, a real breeze! I can see her playing that up to the hilt. I can almost hear Kate saying, "is this what it's like?, I always had at least TWO kids to care for!"
Lost again are all the children, used strictly as props to further the careers of two B listers at best. I do wonder how Mady and Cara will react to this latest exposure, they will be the ones to show if they do indeed miss the spotlight.
571 comments from the US/yahoo article and I don't think I saw even 1 that was positive.
Prairiemary -- because it would be too dangerous to try to get 4,000 passengers, especially the disabled and elderly off the ship. Moreover, what ship would they use? They're not going to disrupt someone else's vacation on a cruise ship to pick up an additional 4,000 people.Where would they put everyone? It's not like there are "vacant" cruise ships in the vicinity just waiting to be called on to rescue passengers.
They must have a mess on that ship...literally. I can't imagine being stranded at sea with very little food, raw sewage leaking into cabins, having to poop in bags and setting the bags outside the cabins, or peeing in the showers, only to have no water to wash it down. I've never been on Carnival, nor will I ever book a vacation with them.
prairiemary,
Your question about the cruise passengers not being moved to another ship is being asked by passengers on that ship and people everywhere. It makes no sense to me either. Some are accusing Celebrity Cruise Lines of trying to save money. I don't know the reason they kept everyone on the ship, but I know I'll never sail with them after the way they've treated the passengers in this situation.
pamelauribe5
@Kateplusmy8 everyone: please tweet everyone you follow--Oprah, Ellen, Katie, allllllll of them. Just ask them to LOOK at Kate's timeline--
Yes, let them ALL check out Kate's timeline, so that they can see how she condones hacking.
With friends like them, who needs enemies?
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If brains were dynamite, they couldn't even blow their noses.
Am I understanding that there are some here who work closely with computers and understand the business of hacking and perhaps know some hackers? Can those of you who do find out the IDs of that anonymous guy in the Netherlands and the Mad British Guy?
Could I? Yeah, probably. Would I? NO. No, no, no.
If Anonym0ousNL and Mad British Guy haven't put up information about themselves a simple Google search would reveal (aka, "Hi, I'm James, my Twitter handle is Mad British Guy!"), there is absolutely no ethical or moral standpoint to investigate further. Even given my stance that it's not morally wrong to hack if you suspect a crime is being committed- there is no evidence a crime is being committed. It's not illegal to be an @sshole.
Even if one takes the threats of "clearing out bank accounts" seriously, the easiest thing to do is contact the proper authorities. These people have documented their threats on Twitter. Having the authorities investigate them would be a cinch. The evidence is all right there!
Finally, IMHO, the people behind the accounts aren't even hackers. Not even close. They think it sounds cool and threatening, but their language and actions aren't like anything a real hacker would ever use. Hacking is about stealth and anonymity, not bragging about all the things you're going to do.
Reading these fans' idiotic tweets and gushing over Kate being back on television is more entertaining than television! This one tweeted:
mamabear313
OMG @Kateplusmy8 and @KendraWilkinson swapping places for celeb wife swap...my 2 fav women...should be hysterically funny watching cant wait
Two favorite women? Kendra is someone's favorite woman? WHY????
Prairiemary, The winds have been high (35mph) and the weather on the Gulf is very unpredictable. The life boats are being saved as a last resort. There is a huge danger in bringing two ships together for passenger transfer.
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