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Wednesday, February 13, 2013
ABC officially announces Kate on 'Wife Swap'
After months of rumors, it's official. Kate will swap places with Kendra Wilkinson on the premiere of Celebrity Wife Swap, February 26th. The poor Gosselin kids. And poor Hank Jr.!
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1020 sediments (sic) from readers:
«Oldest ‹Older 801 – 1000 of 1020 Newer› Newest»Admin a quick question if you put "i think" "In my opinion" or even "allegedly" in front of a sentence accusing someone of committing a crime does it absolve you from all civil and criminal prosecution?
Will Kate write a bog now explaining why it is not a good idea to hire hackers to harass and probe for private info on those who you think are bullying you?
Marie
Quick Question that question is not quick at all. :) I suggest you google it there are many sites that explain it well.
Kate is used to using children to get what she wants. First, her kids for money and now the child hackers for revenge.
Marie
Kate is a twit said... 194
What happened to Kate taking the "high road"? She's acting like a giddy child who can't wait to tattle on someone.
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Kate is as defiant as the day is long. A cut off your nose to spite your own face level of defiance. Does anyone remember that couch interview she did during the divorce drama where she was asked about her questionable relationship with Steve and she said he was a friend and protection for the family and then she defiantly said, 'I'll be darned if they're going to take me down with that.' That woman digs in her heels so hard her better judgement doesn't stand a chance. She must have been one heck of a child to raise.
IMO, it sounds like a very good idea to say, "in my opinion" or "allegedly".
It's best to be safe than sorry.
I wonder if anyone at The Stir will blog about this. You know they want to :)
Marie
Catching up once again. I am really impressed w/RWA and their persistence/street smart way of dealing with the latest mess!! Not only screen grab everything, but put it on their blog! Good for them!!
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 173
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It does beg the question though what was Kate going to do with such information when and if she got it?''
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I don't think that KK was interested in using the information at all. The two that were ''outed'' had been outed long ago...and I'm positive that KK had the info sent to her before. Probably around the time the cruise was being 'vetted' to be sure the people signing up for the cruise were not ''haters''.
If I had to speculate about her involvement in the entire thing, I'd guess that she was approached to do the I Was Bullied thing, and without another thought, jumped right straight into the fire from the frying pan. Her inability to actually THINK, and her narcissistic ego is revealed once again.
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PatK said... 184
''Wow. Kate IS still trying to save her ass by retweeting this bullyville tweet:
kateplusmy8
RT @Bullyblast: Trolls FLIP OUT when they get trolled. Fun Fact: it's 100% legal to post someone's real & verified first/last name on OUR WEBSITE. Tick tock''
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Good Grief!! That RT is yet more proof that KK has severe mental problems, in my opinion. Her profound stupidity is stunning!!!
Actually Admin there was a case not too long ago where a Michigan man was accused of hacking his wife's email. It was headed to court until they found the wife was actually hacking HIS email too.
Moral of the story is if you are going to accuse someone of a crime better make sure you are not doing the same thing.
Saying "Allegedly" and "In My Opinion" isn't a blanket protection.
Don't fool yourselves.
Also keep in mind these were kids and probably a lot more easily influenced by a celebrity adult soliciting help
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What in the heck does she need help with? She's a big girl. She has Laverne and Shirley on speed dial. She's Kan-Do Kate. Why would she need the help of a bully site and adolescents?
Kate's next bog article will more than likely be about cute things almost 9-year-olds say; such as: "why are freezers cold?", or how mathematically smart one child out of a pack of six can be.
Or maybe she'll backslide into something about ME, ME, ME--I have it soooo hard but I remain positive. Love me. Just looooove me. (You know she's dying to bring each article back to her superwoman self.)
A little OT, but how many of you think Katie Irene will organize a twitter party during the airing of Celebrity Wife Swap, a la as she did during the death throes of Kate+8?
PatK said..."Good Grief!! That RT is yet more proof that KK has severe mental problems, in my opinion. Her profound stupidity is stunning!!!"
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You'd think that someone would have grabbed her and muzzled her by now. What is wrong with that woman? She could hunt for gold in that deep mine she's digging. You just can't make this stuff up.
I almost feel sorry for her. Almost.
Sherry Baby said...
You'd think that someone would have grabbed her and muzzled her by now. What is wrong with that woman? She could hunt for gold in that deep mine she's digging. You just can't make this stuff up.
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In my experience with my narcissist boss, they always BELIEVE they are right. It does not matter if 100 people are telling them they are wrong, or if they are presented with irrefutable proof - they "honestly" (snark!) think everyone else is wrong, because they are smarter, better, more moral, and always above reproach (in their minds). They really do live in an alternate universe, and I am not saying that lightly. I witnessed it first hand with my boss, and it is truly an unbelievable site to witness.
Also, if these narcissists have a handful of people that agree with them, they only focus on the opinions and words of them. Believe me, I sat in countless meetings with my narcissist, and she ALWAYS focused on the one person who backed her opinion EVERY TIME. There were 5 other experienced and educated people that surrounded her, but we did not matter.
I am just as flabbergasted as everyone else that she would tweet that from Bullyville today....but surprised? Not one bit.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 156
Yes despite our differences I do have to say there are some people out there following this who do a really good job spotting when the sh&t is about to hit the fan and then start doing their archive of screen captures to record it all. Does come in handy sometimes.
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There is virtually no daylight in our collective views on Ms Gosselin. There appears to be some invisible code of honor that we violate on a regular basis that compel them to belittle and disparage this blog admin and specific posters. No issue is too small or insignificant to nitpick and magnify to fit their own opinions. Given that we agree with virtually all of their stances on the issues, can't figure out why they are so threatened by our nice, civil blog.
Oh, the drama...No, I don't respect them--the ends don't justify the means, IMO. Kate has gotten away with child abuse and stolen thousands from honest fans and church members. Really, do people think that this will bring her down? She is laughing all the way to the bank, and that is a fact.
I think before the clock strikes midnight, we're going to see a whole lot more of this story. Just a funny feeling I have...
Uh-oh. The following appears to be a DM from Kate to MBG, courtesy of comerightin's tweet:
comerightin
"MBG, I need you to release some information on a few people. Me and @Bullyville will provide the info" Comments? @Kateplusmy8
Poor kids.
Stuck at home with her and whatever mood this has her in on their day off.
I am NOT a fan of Kate. Actually a long time hater so to speak. But before everyone gets all excited. I was watching the Twitter crap as it was happening and Kate didn't start following those two hackers until after they released any info on Walt and ECJ.
Everyone is playing games.
But even if everyone is playing games with everyone else why doesn't Kate just stay out of it??
I love the one on RWA that has a screen shot of just enough of a DM between KK and MBG to PROVE that she was in direct DM contact w/the underage 'hacker'.
We ALL knew KK was awful, and narcissistic and dumber than a box of hair, but it still makes me gasp to see that she was so stupid?? arrogant?? to actually put things in 'writing'. It is simply unbelievable to me that she is ACTUALLY doing this.
Even today, she keeps on digging that hole deeper and deeper. It is SO obvious that there is not one soul out there that cares enough about her to physically go to her house and tell her to SHUT UP....and then stand over her to make sure that she does!!
If I were doing this, a whole host of friends and relatives would be all over me like white on rice....and they would have done it as soon as they saw the first I Was Bullied post!!
According to the Examiner article, this was posted directly on the RWA blog:
"We shall now delete our Tweets with the personal information of those involved IF we are excused of our actions, granted a full pardon from those who were harassing us and Tweets taken down from the attackers' side too. If this does not happen, we shall continue stronger than ever. The choice is yours."
Sounds like they are threatening the RWA bloggers, unless RWA grants a pardon. It isn't clear that the hackers did anything, since the 2 names outed had already been out there for a while.
If this is a game, it sure ain't chess--more like Ping Pong
Uh-oh. The following appears to be a DM from Kate to MBG, courtesy of comerightin's tweet:
"MBG, I need you to release some information on a few people. Me and @Bullyville will provide the info" Comments? @Kateplusmy8
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I know Kate's grammar and spelling are bad, but does she use "Me" as the subject of a sentence? Reading past tweets from MBG, I know that he does.
"I wonder how Kate treated Kendra's dogs?"
I had forgotten about the dogs. Kendra did really treat them well, and they were on the Playboy show and Kendra's show with Hank. Wonder if the dogs will be on CWS?
This hacking stuff is getting unreal. I know Kate has mental issues, but I didn't think she was stupid enough to be involved. Now she's tweeting cute kids stories. The woman is nuts.
I have just read a mere 25 posts or so. All I can say is "We KNEW she was stuck at Thirteen. Years. Old." Her childish level of immaturity is pathological. She must be mentally bored beyond belief to even CARE, let alone get this deep in this middle school foolishness.
Kate, get off twitter, eat a sandwich, and go find a life. You have at least 8 fine options right under your childish nose.
This kind of nonsense will have employers just lining up to trust her integrity with their brand, right?
Mark my words. The haters are getting PUNKED just like the sheeple did.
Kate followed that MDG after the info about the two "haters" was doxed.
If MBG is indeed 13 years old. Haters shouldn't be conversing with him either. They are the ones telling him to give up evidence or they will go to the FBI. Haters need to make police reports and leave the rest to to police if we want this to go anywhere.
Everyone (including KATE IRENE) is stupid for getting involved with this mess.
Mark my words. The haters are getting PUNKED just like the sheeple did.
Kate followed that MDG after the info about the two "haters" was doxed.
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I don't get what you mean. I'm not getting punked. I can see what she said and retweeted myself. There is nothing "punked" about that.
Obviously I take what they say about what on behind the scenes with a grain of salt. It's irrelevant to the greater point anyway.
Winter Wonderland said... 24
Uh-oh. The following appears to be a DM from Kate to MBG, courtesy of comerightin's tweet:
"MBG, I need you to release some information on a few people. Me and @Bullyville will provide the info" Comments? @Kateplusmy8
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I know Kate's grammar and spelling are bad, but does she use "Me" as the subject of a sentence? Reading past tweets from MBG, I know that he does.
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Yes. I remember yelling at the TV at her when she'd "correct" Jon and she'd be wrong.
The haters who are talking to the "kid" are getting punked.
That's what I mean.
This kind of crap, playing games hurts the greater good
Dwindle said... 27
This kind of nonsense will have employers just lining up to trust her integrity with their brand, right?
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Dwindle!!
I'm surprised The Stir hasn't fired her yet. It's hard to imagine anyone employing her now. Although I continue to wonder if those who don't follow this saga as closely as we do have a clue about what's going on.
DontgetTooExcited. said... 20
I am NOT a fan of Kate. Actually a long time hater so to speak. But before everyone gets all excited. I was watching the Twitter crap as it was happening and Kate didn't start following those two hackers until after they released any info on Walt and ECJ.
Everyone is playing games.
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Now would probably be a good time to use your regular ID used when you post here, if you post here. That might give you credibility.
Is there any verifiable information on how Kate came to be connected with these hacker kids? I see lots of innuendo and suppositions...
Admin, there are lots of threats flying around about non-fans going to the police, FBI, attorneys. Does anyone have a case against Kate, the 'hackers', the super sleuth?
Winter Wonderland said... 25
Uh-oh. The following appears to be a DM from Kate to MBG, courtesy of comerightin's tweet:
"MBG, I need you to release some information on a few people. Me and @Bullyville will provide the info" Comments? @Kateplusmy8
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I know Kate's grammar and spelling are bad, but does she use "Me" as the subject of a sentence? Reading past tweets from MBG, I know that he does.
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As long as she's putting "me" first, she's always happy.
Yes. I remember yelling at the TV at her when she'd "correct" Jon and she'd be wrong.
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I did the same thing, but I was referring to her tweets. Does she ever use, "Me and..." Possibly, but I just don't remember seeing her doing it. I read MBS's tweets and it seems that he doesn't know that it's not correct.
After what has gone on I am never using the same name again.
I don't get what you mean. I'm not getting punked. I can see what she said and retweeted myself. There is nothing "punked" about that.
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The poster is talking about the DMs, not the tweets. I think the poster means that Kate didn't follow the MBG until after the outing was done. If that's true, then she didn't send him DMs if she didn't follow him. Are there time stamps on those DMs? It would be easy to figure out. Of course, there could have been e-mails back and forth between them before the outing took place, in which case nobody would be the wiser when or how it all went down.
Milo FINALLY speaketh the truth!
MiloandJack
@Kateplusmy8 Wind me up& set me b4the kids2day..let me have my constant say..by nitefall U'll be sayin NoWaY & minds will be N disarray! :)
MiloandJack
@Kateplusmy8 HaHa...I can drive U nuts! U'll be lookin 4the duct-tape...muzzle that gal! LOL
Winter Wonderland said... 25
Uh-oh. The following appears to be a DM from Kate to MBG, courtesy of comerightin's tweet:
"MBG, I need you to release some information on a few people. Me and @Bullyville will provide the info" Comments? @Kateplusmy8
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Is there proof that this tweet from Kate to MBG is legit?
Jane said,
"I'm surprised The Stir hasn't fired her yet. It's hard to imagine anyone employing her now. Although I continue to wonder if those who don't follow this saga as closely as we do have a clue about what's going on."
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Maybe she has a clause in her contract that says they can't fire her if she does something stupid. Historically, her track record isn't all that great.
Y'know what I find funny? Back when I was a preteen and actually doing, ahem, some less-than-straight things with the wondrous and much-less-regulated Internet, even I had enough sense not to go blathering to everyone I met that I was a 'haxx0r'. And hacking was considered cool back then!
Seriously, if I knew it was best to keep a low profile in the mid-'90s, the "kids today" have no excuse.
Jane said... 41
Winter Wonderland said... 25
Uh-oh. The following appears to be a DM from Kate to MBG, courtesy of comerightin's tweet:
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I didn't post that. It came from Pink @15. I was quoting Pink. It gets confusing...:)
There has to be something negative that Kate does that will "stick" to her. She has escaped so many horrible repercussions so far.
Ms. De-Aging might not be able to deflect this time.
I don't think any of this is going to stick to Kate. She'll be off and running on her next
grift'n'grab before we know it. At her last
keratin coating, they must have tefloned her entire body.
I'm thinking this is much ado that will lead to nothing.
Winter Wonderland said... 44
Jane said... 41
Winter Wonderland said... 25
Uh-oh. The following appears to be a DM from Kate to MBG, courtesy of comerightin's tweet:
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I didn't post that. It came from Pink @15. I was quoting Pink. It gets confusing...:)
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I'll say!
Hi Khate, we all know you read here. There i$ a difference between famous and infamou$. You're infamous.
Can someone translate that wind me up tweet. Sounds like or something, I have no idea what she is talking about.
Puhlease...
this is all orchestrated to generate "buzz" for her z-list reality show.
Franky, I'm not sure this is exactly the kind of buzz she wanted to create for the show.
Pity Party, it makes as much sense to me as it does to you.
It reminds me of the old song from the 20's (?)
maresydoatsndozydotesnliddlelamseytivy. It's nonsense until you "get it". Except only Milo "gets" her little ditty.
@franky #50- YOU NAILED IT! Funny how Kendra didn't need to generate buzz!
Let me see if I can get this straight. Certain haterz, not content with allowing Kate to go down in flames on her own inserted themselves into this stupid story by relentlessly attacking Kate's fans on twitter. Not to mention those unfortunates that wandered over, naively thinking that they could drop a few words of encouragement and then be on their merry way.
This pissed off Kate's "inner circle", who then dug their heels in and managed to identify at least one of the haters. Not through any super sleuthing, but because of his own carelessness (an ex-police officer according to him) in exposing his own personal information. Oh, and BTW, said ex-cop, not content with just verbal attacks, further tried to put himself in the center of the story by allegedly ordering Chinese food to be delivered to Kate's hotel room. Seriously--he said it himself.
Then, some of the haterz manage to out some of the fans. Same haterz are now calling foul because Kate has allegedly put a cyber-hit on them.
But wait--the time stamps say differently. Or, do they? Just who has punked whom? And, who has been punked but doesn't know it? And who thinks that they are punking others when it is really themselves who have been punked? Am I being punked, or, am I the one doing the punking?
Stay tuned for more scathingly brilliant twists and turns...
Okay, stepping away from my computer now....
Hummm. All this who is punking who reminds me of the old song, ''Who's making love to your old lady, while you are out making love?'' It also reminds me why I was so very wise to never get on facebook or twitter.
Being a lurker to all this whoop-to-do is interesting and entertaining...better than any Soap Opera...until I remember those poor Gosselin children and their father. Then I realize how really awful it would be to be in the position of being collateral damage to the life KK has dragged them into!!
It is too bad that Jon did not have the "cojones" to stop the continued exploitation and mental/emotional damage TO HIS OWN CHILDREN by allowing their filming on Celebrity Wife $wap. It seems to me that the only time Jon's cojones worked was when he gave to "$tuff" to make the Go$$elin 8. Personally, I think Khate is a loser, but I think Jon is a loser too.
Are you happy now? Your fantasy child and animal abusing, narcissistic personality disordered girlfriend will be on TV for one show.
I hope you don't pee your underwear in anticipation and ectasy.
how about we do like main-stream media..Kendra is the star..no twitter-wars there.
How about admin recap the show we will not watch, but from Kendra and little Hank.jr's point of view.
No doubt Hank Sr. had a thang or 2to say, but he is an apoarent genyleman.
how about rrality tv..seen from Hank Jr.s eyes?
no mention of gosselin childten?
Anonymous...57, Milo's not here.
Re: Mindy McCready...Was watching some news show today and it was said that McCready is the fifth person who has been on Dr. Drew Celebrity Rehab who has committed suicide. I would say his rehab is not working. And if a person seriously wanted help, why do it on TV.
This twitter mess is confusing. When knew what when, who outed who when, who hates who when. I'm going to bed.
Anonymous said... 57
''Are you happy now? Your fantasy child and animal abusing, narcissistic personality disordered girlfriend will be on TV for one show.
I hope you don't pee your underwear in anticipation and ectasy.''
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Which person are you asking if they're happy?
PatK said... 51
Franky, I'm not sure this is exactly the kind of buzz she wanted to create for the show.
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I agree. Perhaps the bullyville "pity me" thing was done to create a buzz for the show, although I'm not even sure about that. I think it was damage control before the book is released again...and I certainly don't think that the backlash that has ensued was created for the show. You'd have to be an idiot to think that something like that would generate interest in the show. Not this time...nope. She never could have anticipated the outcome of her love affair with the adolescents.
ts a fantasy that Kate abused her kids?
Also, if "we" are being punked, its at Kate's expense. Either way, she looks like an idiot.
Re: Mindy McCready...Was watching some news show today and it was said that McCready is the fifth person who has been on Dr. Drew Celebrity Rehab who has committed suicide. I would say his rehab is not working. And if a person seriously wanted help, why do it on TV.
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What??? The FIFTH? Holy crap. Dr. Drew needs to reevaluate.
After what has gone on I am never using the same name again.
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I don't care if you want to change your name but please once you do stick to the change. Thanks!
I still think that somewhere along the line in this bullying fiasco that money changed hands, or something else was promised. Just hard to tell where.
I certainly hope if the hacker really is a kid that he gets his parents involved, and that they get the best attorney they can afford.
This is too serious for a kid (or an adult) to try to go it alone without a lawyer.
seriously Admin.. consider re-capping from whar 2yrld Hank Jr. wohlg have felt
The first words out of Hank Jr's little mouth would probably be "Are you my mommy?" Unless
he is used to Kendra having friends with long blonde hair and busty chests, or unless Kate shows up with brown hair, he could be confused for a minute or two. Kate looks like a bad replica of Kendra.
As soon as Kate opens her mouth, however, all confusion will be gone.
Okay I will consider doing the recap differently this time thanks Franky.
Wow! I take a few weeks off to deal with life stuff and finish up a project I've been working on and all HE double hockey sticks breaks out. KK claims to be the victim of adult bullying, although anyone who's watched the show knows who the real bully is. KK DID do a mom swap with Kendra Wilkinson, despite all the sheeple claiming she would never. KK gets involved in another Twitter contretemps and endorses hacking if it's done to defend her "precious" hide, and there are tons of posts to catch up on. I've skimmed the last 50 or so, so forgive me if I touch on something someone else has already covered.
Capecodmama -- Mindy McCready is not the FIFTH person from Celebrity Rehab to commit suicide. She's the 5th participant to die, but the first suicide. Two died of ODs (Joey Kovar and Mike Starr), one (Jeff Conaway) died of pneumonia and septicemia, and Rodney King drowned. I think drugs and alcohol were found in his system, but I think his death was ruled accidental.
Ex Nurse -- Good to see you back. We don't know the state of Jon's cojones, or even if he has any left after KK got done with him. We don't know if he tried to stop the mom-swap, if he gave consent, or if he even knew about it until after the fact.
I certainly won't be watching the show. I watched about 5 minutes of one of the regular mom-swap shows a few years ago and thought it was stupid, silly and potentially dangerous for the kids involved.
I hope Robert's book comes out again before the show airs.
Did anyone catch "Castle" last week? In the show, the crime was the murder of a participant in a Real Housewives type show. The whole theme of the show was "reality shows aren't real". Ironic, since "Castle" is an ABC show.
Can't wait to read Admin's recap. I think the idea of writing it from little Hank's POV is interesting, but I think it will be difficult to do a comprehensive recap without mentioning the G8.
Readerlady welcome back I really missed your take on the educational documentaries! Scroll back a few posts. Unless I missed it I think you were gone for that.
I watched a few minutes of a Catfish episode tonight and it was a double Catfish, the guy and the girl were catfishing each other!! Baw-Haha I so love Nev he was so excited about that one.
Reader lady said...
Ex Nurse -- Good to see you back. We don't know the state of Jon's cojones, or even if he has any left after KK got done with him. We don't know if he tried to stop the mom-swap, if he gave consent, or if he even knew about it until after the fact.
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Jon's cojones were from Rearranging the Deck Chairs on the Titanic said... 56. Not that there is anything wrong with it.
I'm still recovering from Tucker's Mom remark about Kendra tea bagging an old man's shriveled raisins.
Now, turn your head and cough...
Glad your back, too readerlady.
A Pink Straight Jacket For Kate said... 154
Jessisca Carlson wrote The Examiner article,
and Jessica King wrote the Imperfect Parent article...
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And since the articles are word for word, exactly the same that can only mean one of two things: either Jessica Carlson and Jessica King are the same person or one plagiarized the other.
As far as "buzz" being generated, look how far she has fallen. After all of her Mom of the Year BS, and, despite her best efforts, she is best known for being a high-maintenance, emasculating witch.
And, for what? Not for her coveted seat on the View, a Beverly Hills address, a children's clothing line, a voiceover gig, her own show, a cosmetic spokesperson contract, limos, town cars, book deals, an Entertainment Tonight interviewer job....well the list is pretty endless of the things that she wants and isn't getting. And, those are just the ones that were made public.
How sad would it be to know that you had blown all of those opportunities, and, when all is said and done, your fame was at the expense of your children's childhoods? And still, she is so obsessed with fame that she embarrasses herself on a daily basis. When every act is met with criticism and derision, just maybe it is time to try something else.
Well, I think it is safe to say that all of her 'staff' have jumped ship.
I know I'm a little behind on reading but Ramona Blue 23's comment about no one caring about Kate to even go over there and tell her to STFU got me thinking.
Like everyone else, early, when I started questioning about the parents, grandparents never being mentioned or in the picture, I took to the internet and the rest is history. 5 years later, I still have the same question. What did KKG do to her parents and siblings and what hold does she have over them that they won't even come out with something about her childhood, teen years etc.
A couple of people have come on different blogs and said a few things but come on, there are childhood friends, distant family, neighbors, school buddies, co workers and still, no answers. What happened to this woman that made her into the evil bitch that she is today and why are they choosing to remain silent while she continues to become more unstable every day. It's only going to get worse. I just hope something bad does not happen before she gets to try on that straight jacket. White's her favorite color, don't ya know!
There is virtually no daylight in our collective views on Ms Gosselin. There appears to be some invisible code of honor that we violate on a regular basis that compel them to belittle and disparage this blog admin and specific posters. No issue is too small or insignificant to nitpick and magnify to fit their own opinions. Given that we agree with virtually all of their stances on the issues, can't figure out why they are so threatened by our nice, civil blog.
Oh, the drama...No, I don't respect them--the ends don't justify the means.
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WOW, I am shaking my head at this comment. RWA is full of honest people are not afraid to voice their opinions and also defend themselves when threatened. Not too long ago THIS blog lost some posters due to being outed even though this probably doesn't have the numbers that the twitter accounts did. It is easy to monday morning quarterback when you are not involved. I can't believe the inference that since this is a nice civil blog that you are above being outed. Please. It happened here not too long ago. These people are crazy that do this type of stuff. No one is immune to it. And no one deserves it.
Disgusted
Hey, everyone! I am getting out tomorrow, yes, tomorrow afternoon! And it is one of my sons birthday today. Doing much better. I've been here 18 days.
Fidosmommy: I had to chuckle at your post. My gramma used to sing me that little song when I was little "mares eat oats and kids eat oats and little lambs eat ivy" but I loved how you put it as all one word!! Lol. I giggled and it brought back happy memories
Oops...it's "mares eat oats and Does eat oats and little lambs eat ivy". What can I say...I'm getting old and it's 5:30 am. Lol
Ok Fidosmom: now I can't get the whole song out of my head so this is for you, I am singing " mares eat oats and does eat oats and little lambs eat ivy, a kid'll eat ivy too, wouldn't you?". Lol
Readerlady 71...Thanks. I was coming on to correct my post at 60 because in my local paper it said she was the fifth person to die not the fifth to commit suicide. McCready may have been the first suicide but whether it was suicide, accidental or other, they all had addiction problems that Dr. Drew's show didn't help them with. If you are a celebrity, have an addiction problem and seriously want to get well, Dr. Drew is not the way to go.
So, I was just looking at Kreiders Twitter page...the part that lists who she follows, who follows her, etc.....to see what some people were talking about in regards to her buying followers.
Anyways...I clicked on her 'favorites' (she has 9) and one of them is for a website. I bet she's a very frequent visitor.
www.regainyourname.com
Bahahahahahahahahaha!!
You have got to check out this website.
Oh, again.....bahahahahahahahahaha!
Wow! I found this while visiting RWA.
This is a SCATHING blog entry by Terri Brunson.
"Kate Gosselin Teen Hacker Allegedly Turns On Her; Accuses Kate Of Conspiracy"
http://inspirationalwomensocialclub.blogspot.com/2013/02/kate-gosselin-teen-hacker-allegedly.html?spref=tw
Unheard of for Kate to lie (lay as she would say) in bed??? Don't make me laugh...lololol Who would take to her bed for sneezing?
Looks like Sphinx Kat at celebritydirtylaundry has had a change of heart about Kate:
http://www.celebdirtylaundry.com/2013/kate-gosselin-supports-bullying-tells-twitter-followers-haters-0219/
I was looking around on Kendra's website and came across her talking about disciplining Little Hank on TV.
Taken from her website:
If you haven’t heard already, “Kendra on Top” will be back for another season! I’m super excited, but the one thing that can be a challenge when we’re taping is making sure Lil Hank still has a normal life. Family first!
You guys know I always keep it real but it can be hard at times when I’m dealing with family things. For example, when Lil Hank is acting up, and Hank and I have to handle a situation with him, the one thing you’ll never see us do is discipline Lil Hank when cameras are around. Here’s why:
Then she shows a little video of herself explaining why the public will NEVER see her or her husband disciplining Little Hank on TV. Basically she said it is not because they spank him but because it is very one on one and personal. No cameras are allowed; she was very adamant about this. She does say of course the public is given a taste of how they discipline him.
I really respect this about her and of course it is in direct opposite of how Kate handled it on her TV show.
Leslie
This article was in 2011 on Celedirtylaundry:
Kendra Wilkinson and her friend Taryn Ryan made an explicit lesbian sex tape and are shopping it around – Vivid Entertainment wants to own it!
Steve Hirsch, the boss at Vivid says “After our great success with Kendra Wilkinson Exposed, of course we’re interested in distributing another Kendra sex tape,” adding “We look forward to speaking to the owner of the tape and making a deal ASAP.”
According to sources the footage includes Wilkinson fooling around, kissing and giggling with her co-star Taryn Ryan, at the encouragement of boyfriend Justin Frye – who was the co-star of Wilkinson’s inaugural sex tape.
‘Kendra Wilkinson Exposed’ was Vivid’s second most popular celebrity sex tape ever, trailing only behind Tommy Lee and Pamela Anderson’s infamous ‘Pamela Anderson & Tommy Lee: Hardcore & Uncensored.’
Kendra made a ton of money on the last tape she reportedly received $680,000 and the business-savy babe is set to rake in even more with this one.
Also in written in her book (yes, she has a book out) she talks about her drug use (meth) and stripping before she met Hef.
Leslie
I see Kate is following Kendra Wilkinson now.
I know I'm a little behind on reading but Ramona Blue 23's comment about no one caring about Kate to even go over there and tell her to STFU got me thinking.
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I wonder if it's anyone who DOES care to go over and tell her to STFU has been estranged. I think she did have plenty of people trying to help and guide her but one by one they were cut off, all the way to including Jon.
That's the thing with having close family and friends, good ones are a check on you, they are feedback. Good ones WILL speak up when something very wrong is going on with you. We've seen it over and over when family and friends stage interventions because they love that person. It's just another reason to keep family and friends around, we all sort of keep each other in line. When you don't have that "check", things like this hacking fiasco can happen without any help to get your course corrected. Very sad.
I wish every little boy could be as adored as they two little boys are by their mommy:
http://thepioneerwoman.com/blog/2013/02/little-men/
lukebandit said... 77
Hey, everyone! I am getting out tomorrow, yes, tomorrow afternoon! And it is one of my sons birthday today. Doing much better. I've been here 18 days.
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Woohoo!!! Great news!!
Deanna remains silent on Twitter. Her last tweet was 3 days ago and had nothing to do with Kate, CWS, hackers.
lukebandit-I'm happy to hear that you are going home. What great news! Happy Birthday to your son!
lukebandit,
Tomorrow is definitely a day to celebrate your hospital discharge and your son's Bday. Wishing you steady progress on regaining your health!
Luke bandit, great news! Enjoy your freedom and get some rest! Folks don't realize a hospital is one of the worst places to try and get rest.
How you enjoy a big birthday celebration for your son!
Admin:
The Pioneer Woman adores all her children. It is very obvious and refreshing.
Kate is a twit,
That's quite interesting about Celebdirtylaundry changing their stance on Kate! VBG That writer been supporting her since the 1st of the year, but she's definitely opened her eyes and seen the light. Will others follow suit or keep their hands over their eyes and pretend they didn't see anything.
http://www.celebdirtylaundry.com/2013/kate-gosselin-supports-bullying-tells-twitter-followers-haters-0219/
Lbelle...
That site www.regainyourname, is telling. If I'm reading it correctly, it looks like do-it-yourself PR.
Things That Make You Go Hmmmmm...
Lukebandit, that's great news about getting out of the hospital!
Lukebandit -- have a wonderful day out of the hospital. I hope it is sunny in Alabama -- just for you!
Wowser and ExNurse -- congratulations on your grandbaby news.
Wonderful news, Lukebandit! Hope you're up to celebrating a bit with your son, even if it's the day after his BD.
Ex Nurse -- the comment about Jon's cojones wasn't aimed at you, I just forgot to start a new paragraph. Sorry!
Admin -- I haven't had a chance to look at the thread on the education documentaries yet, but that sounds interesting. Hopefully I'll have time to check it out in a day or two. I still think you should do a thread on "Farmageddon" or "Restrepo" or both. They're both available on Netflix streaming. "Restrepo" was nominated for the best documentary Academy Award a couple of years ago.
Dmasy said... 100
Lukebandit -- have a wonderful day out of the hospital. I hope it is sunny in Alabama -- just for you!
Wowser and ExNurse -- congratulations on your grandbaby news.
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My sediments exactly- woot!
Leslie: a very disturbing article! Odd choices for Kendra- what do these husbands think of all this? And Kate should be truly ashamed of having Kendra in her home with her impressionable children..
Kendra was a meth user?? Good lord Kate come on.
lukebandit said... 77
Hey, everyone! I am getting out tomorrow, yes, tomorrow afternoon! And it is one of my sons birthday today. Doing much better. I've been here 18 days.
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Yay! I am so happy for you!
MJ said... 97
Kate is a twit,
That's quite interesting about Celebdirtylaundry changing their stance on Kate! VBG That writer been supporting her since the 1st of the year, but she's definitely opened her eyes and seen the light. Will others follow suit or keep their hands over their eyes and pretend they didn't see anything.
http://www.celebdirtylaundry.com/2013/kate-gosselin-supports-bullying-tells-twitter-followers-haters-0219/
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Kate has only herself to blame.
lukebandit said... 77
Hey, everyone! I am getting out tomorrow, yes, tomorrow afternoon! And it is one of my sons birthday today. Doing much better. I've been here 18 days.
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Congratulations :o)
AWESOME news lukebandit!!
Love,
Pink
I see Kate is following Kendra Wilkinson now.
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Well you know they must be best friends now after the swap!! hahaha Kate will be keeping an eye on her to see if there is any way Kendra could help Kate get work.. (like how she used to twitter to Roma Downey or friends from the View etc..) She is hoping it is a stepping stone into more than just the one show.
Jane since Deanna has her twitter on private, something the tweeting haters want Kate to do, do you feel that it's fair to report what her twitter account is doing here?
Or when you followed her did you make it clear you were going to report her actions back to an ANTI Kate site?
So...Jon can't leave the kids with a girl in a bathing suit in the middle of summer...for an hour, but Kate can leave her 8 with a former Meth Head? WOW. I'll like to see what the "judge" says about that...
FairReport said... 108
Jane since Deanna has her twitter on private, something the tweeting haters want Kate to do, do you feel that it's fair to report what her twitter account is doing here?
Or when you followed her did you make it clear you were going to report her actions back to an ANTI Kate site?
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Deanna approved me as a follower and her account was private when she did so. But as we all know, especially with what's gone on over the last few days, nothing's private on the Internet.
You know what I find odd with all this hacker stuff? Kate writes for The Stir, and apparently The Stir moderates comments on her bogs.
Yet The Stir is publishing comments referring to the hacker story, and they also publish very negative comments about Kate.
I think Kate is under the assumption that The Stir has her back,(just like she thought CC had her back) when it seems the complete opposite is true. If they cared that much about Kate, why would they let those comments through?
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 103
Kendra was a meth user?? Good lord Kate come on.
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Kendra had a troubled adolescence and wound up doing meth and stripping before she headed to the Playboy mansion.
She's obviously changed and deserves redemption, but I would not mire my kids in this exactly because of her past. An adult can make the decision that Kendra is now responsible, and have any sort of relationship with her. But, I wouldn't nominated her Girl Scout leader.
One day, to her children, Kate will have to answer why she chose to leave them with Kendra.
Kelly H. said... 96
Admin:
The Pioneer Woman adores all her children. It is very obvious and refreshing.
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PW's kids love her cooking, and of course, that's what she does for her show. But PW NEVER asks for THANK YOU MOMMY!!!!!!!!!!!. Not even when she threw a "chopped salad" party for her daughter and some friends, and spend all day making everything DD loved.
PW's DD loved it and the girls looked like they were having a blast, but PW's role was in the background, facilitating the party and enjoyment, not being the center of attention asking for gratitude.
PW's kids are a joy to watch and the boys are quite advanced in every way compared to the tups. They don't work for the camera, rather, the camera catches them working the ranch.
Kate is a twit said...
Yet The Stir is publishing comments referring to the hacker story, and they also publish very negative comments about Kate.
They may be allowing negative comments on Kate's blog (I've heard that many aren't making it through moderation, though), but there is a noticeable absence of blogs from other writers about Kate's antics. In the past a number of not so flattering articles were written there about her, yet since she's been on the "staff" the other writers have been silent. I think someone (plural) has been told to stay away from their keyboard/s.
http://thepioneerwoman.com/blog/2013/02/little-men/
When you look at the (PW's) boys' eyes, how they are engaged, the depth they show and the smile that creeps up to their corners when the boys smile, it's a far cry from any photo, spontaneous or posed, of any of Kate's kids.
The closest "real" photos of the G kids were the warm, relaxed, slightly out of focus, sepia-toned captures that Liz took.
Real.
From Celebrity Laundry...
"Should Kate loose her kids before they turn out like the Kardashians?"
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I'm not so sure she should "loose" her kids, but she might try turning them "loose," right in Jon's direction.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 104
Kendra was a meth user?? Good lord Kate come on.
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Okay. I broke down. I admit it. I went to the tape to see if it was really hard-core porn and what all the fuss was about it. I watched two seconds. I would never, ever leave my kids with someone who engaged in such an activity and then put it on the internet. I'm not a prude. I do not live a sheltered life, but that goes beyond disgusting. And Kate is this born-again Christian who went around to churches speaking about God's will? Good grief, Kate. What do the members of your church think now?
I know I'm a little behind on reading but Ramona Blue 23's comment about no one caring about Kate to even go over there and tell her to STFU got me thinking.
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Even if they did go over there and tell her to zip it. would she listen? Doubtful. Maybe there are people who do care, but because it is Kate, they realize they'd be talking to a brick wall and it's not worth the effort.
If you look at Kendra's twitter timeline as compared to Kate's, you'll see that Kendra is really not going out of her way to promote the CWS episode. Yes, she's retweeted several tweets about it, but not in the manic way Kate has been doing.
Kate has been retweeting, tweeting, reminding everyone,etc. when this show is going to air. Over and over again.
She's comes across as so desperate with these tweets, hoping that this ONE appearance will jumpstart her TV "career".
Too bad that Kate never put this much effort into promoting her charity runs for Breast Cancer Awareness and the Special Olympics. Kate only promotes Kate.
My only real concern about Kendra being with the G kids, is that I hope she held her tongue in regards to her language. She drops several f and s bombs on her twitter and I hope she was able to restrain herself around the kids.
If you go to Kendra's website, she has a post about doing fun things with kids-I've never seen Kate do that.
http://kendrawilkinson.com/blog/post/play-date-ideas-for-kids-2013
If this show gets any ratings at all, I think it will be more because of Kendra, than because of Kate.
Someone should keep a list of the dumb things that sheeple say.
lindsay__robin
“Wife swap with @KendraWilkinson and @Kateplusmy8 next week? My life is complete.” Which network? My 6week old and I will be watching!
It would be fun to look over it...just for a giggle or two!
A new article written about Kate, the hackers, and bullying the 'bullies':
"Kate Gosselin accused of bullying those she calls bullies"
http://www.imperfectparent.com/topics/2013/02/19/kate-gosselin-accused-of-bullying-those-she-calls-bullies/
That is what I love about PW! She feeds her kids on the real china and real silverware, and Glass GLASSES! Instead of PA State issued prison trays w/"silverware". The difference in kate and PW is night and day. PW is a breath of fresh air morning sunlight. kate is the dark, demented souless demon filled soul that only looks out for herself.
I can't believe that kate dropped to a NEW LOW! How much lower can you go? She let a former METH HEAD, STRIPPING, PORN STAR, yes! I said it Porn Star. She made 1 tape with her BF. She knew it was coming out, so she set up a company to get it or something along the lines. Then now there is a 2nd tape with her best friend, who is a girl, and it is being shopped around. Her bf insisted that she do the second one. One you get a pass as a porn star, but TWO? NO WAY!
She allowed a Meth Head, Stripper, 2 tape Porn Star, Hef Humping Heithern to come and stay with her kids for a freaking week!!! Playing the role of their MOM!
I really wonder if Jon knew. I would be filing a Cease and Desist order in court, even though I didn't have an attorney. He could gotten a judge to make it happen!
Where is JMCarson? Has she dumped kate? You would think so because kate is going to PR DIY websites! hahahahaha
I wonder if Laverne and Shirley have told kate: "Sclemeel, schlemazel, hasenfeffer incorporated, SHUT YOUR TWITTER DOWN, NOW!
hahaha just waiting on the ambulance.
It's been said that Kate and Kendra didn't know who they were swapping with. I think that's the thing that bothers me the most. How can you agree to have someone take care of your kids, if you don't know who is going to do so?
They may pretend they didn't know--but really, would you agree to let anyone be with your kids without knowing who they were?
I think that's the way ABC wants to play it, but I'm sure both Kendra and Kate knew exactly who they were "swapping" with--if they didn't, then that really shows that they arent't that concerned about their kids at all.
lukebandit, have a wonderful day. Eat a juicy cheeseburger and sit in the sunshine! Aren't you the Cracker Barrel (turned into another restaurant) story?
Have a great day!
Blowing In The Wind said... 119
I know I'm a little behind on reading but Ramona Blue 23's comment about no one caring about Kate to even go over there and tell her to STFU got me thinking.
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''Even if they did go over there and tell her to zip it. would she listen? Doubtful. Maybe there are people who do care, but because it is Kate, they realize they'd be talking to a brick wall and it's not worth the effort.''
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Blowing In The Wind, your comment gave me a smile, because in MY family/friends, there is no such thing as ''a brick wall''! I really mean it. They would not stop, no matter what, until they were successful. When you care for someone and see them being self-destructive, you will do whatever it takes to END the self-destructive behavior. Period. For us, THAT is what love and caring is all about.
Kate is a twit said... 124
It's been said that Kate and Kendra didn't know who they were swapping with. I think that's the thing that bothers me the most. How can you agree to have someone take care of your kids, if you don't know who is going to do so?
They may pretend they didn't know--but really, would you agree to let anyone be with your kids without knowing who they were?
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Perhaps it's like the secret ingredient on Iron Chef. The chefs are told "it's either A or B". They don't know exactly what the ingredient is until taping, but they've got game plans.
Let's assume for sh*ts and grins that Kate didn't know that Kendra was going to mother her children. OK. Well, if it were me, I'd Google Kendra's ass as soon as I entered her home in L.A.
Now, if you don't know that she shacked up with Heff and a couple other bunnies at the Playboy mansion already, you'd find that out within seconds. Further, you'd find her stripping, drug use and porn films without a problem whatsoever.
So, what's the excuse here? Kate has to know that a couple of taps on any computer can bring up a naked Kendra performing explicit sex acts.
Well, perhaps the boy tups will have some major bragging rights when they hit middle school.
What could make a Christian mom prouder?
[excerpt from lukebandit said 123...]
I wonder if Laverne and Shirley have told kate: "Sclemeel, schlemazel, hasenfeffer incorporated, SHUT YOUR TWITTER DOWN, NOW!
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Hehehe! Probably Kate's lawyers are just as stupified by her behavior as the rest of us.
I wonder if they are avoiding her calls?
On the flip-side, what the heck happened to her
PR people/handlers/wranglers? Aren't they supposed to protect Kate from herself?
In her infamous words: "In the end, everyone leaves me."
We know why. She's a dysfunctional, and very destructive runaway train.
Sad. Really.
Her little family needs healing, protective prayers.
Kate, needs a doctor- and I mean that sincerely.
Let's assume for sh*ts and grins that Kate didn't know that Kendra was going to mother her children. OK. Well, if it were me, I'd Google Kendra's ass as soon as I entered her home in L.A.
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Bingo! Exactly! I'd do the same thing, and then say very politely say no thanks...spend a few days gallivanting around LA and head home. The friends of the twins certainly will google Kendra and tease the living heck out of them..."You mean THAT person was your mom for a week? Wowsers..."
"Blowing In The Wind, your comment gave me a smile, because in MY family/friends, there is no such thing as ''a brick wall''! I really mean it. "
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Then again, Kate is not your typical friend or relative. Now many people have a Kate Gosselin in their lives. She's unique unto herself. :-) It appears to be HER way or the highway.
Kate can look in the mirror and see clearly who ruined her name. This will not happen, but that is one of the first things she must be able to do to get herself on the right track. It is difficult to understand why Jon allowed the kids to participate in the Celebrity Wife Swap program, but many things about the Gosselins are a puzzle. I'm counting down to Admin's recap. Thank you.
miloandjack
@msgoody2shoes21 I thought the threats abt bank accts...I did see one..was just a #EmptyThreat 2worry them & make them back down!
miloandjack
@msgoody2shoes21 Kate quickly said she would never condone that..&neither would I! Revealing the IDs was what I felt might help X-out hate!
I think this sums up the exact mentality of Kate's tweeties. It's okay for people to "out" the haterz in the name of Kate. It's okay for them to be threatened by Kate and her tweeties, basically using blackmail and/or extortion to get them to back down. i.e., if you don't support Kate, you will be "outed". In other words, "YOU WILL PAY!".
And if you notice, nothing has changed. The "haterz" have not gone away-if anything, they are coming out in full force.
Milo, if you actually care about Kate as you say you do, you would have never condoned any of this. Time to wake up and see how Kate is manipulating all of you.
The more of an ass that Kate makes of herself the more the lawyers stand to make. They probably read her twitter feed and rub their hands together gleefully!
Unfortunately her 8 little ones don't have the ability to escape her wrath.
Someone brought up the question if the new child labor laws were in effect for filming. Nope...she got that in under the gun. However, work permits would have been needed for this filming. The work permits is a separate issue from the new child labor laws. In fact, during the April hearings, it was brought to the attention of the PA DOL that the proper work permits were not obtained when the Kate and kids episodes were filmed. For some reason, they got off with just a slap on the hands, but were warned that if anymore filming was done without obtaining proper permits, they would be a penalty imposed:
April 14, 2010, CNN:
CNN) -- "Jon & Kate Plus 8" violated Pennsylvania's child labor law by not getting work permits for the Gosselins' eight children, but state officials said they will not file charges against the reality TV show as long as it doesn't happen again.
An investigation launched last year found no evidence that the children were mistreated but it concluded that their participation required work permits, according to a resolution agreement from the state's Bureau of Labor Law Compliance.
The talent agency representing the family signed the agreement with the state last month.
The Gosselins and show producers have insisted that the children -- a set of 9-year-old twins and 5-year-old sextuplets -- did not need permits.
The state said their participation added up to work.
"The activity being filmed was spontaneous," it said. "However, children introduced episodes of the television show and transitions. DVDs and other merchandise were sold involving the children's appearance. Lighting was placed in the home for the show and there was product placement in some episodes."
If Kate Gosselin wants her kids to be in her new TLC show, "A Twist of Kate," she must get state work permits. Otherwise, the state could re-open the case and file charges for past offenses, the letter said."
Did they get the required work permits for the filming of CWS? I have no idea, but it wouldn't be difficult to find out.
I don't think Kate or Kendra knew who they were swapping with. I've seen the other CWS shows and they were always surprized.
But, does it matter? Kate would rather leave her kids with teenaged babysitters than their own father.
Kate doesn't care if crewmen get background checks and she left Ashley and her 8 kids with STRANGE men.
She left Mady to be filmed in the basement. We only saw what aired, imagine what was on the cutting room floor, or Blankenship's private website.
She doesn't care. She wants fame and the kids are pawns.
I must say that I'd leave my kids with an ex-drugged, Hefner teabagging, nude dancing, sex recording person before I'd ever leave them with someone like Kate.
Kate may not do drugs, pose nude or sleep with corpses but she DOES beat the crap out of babies for potty accidents.
Kendra over kate ANYDAY.
Re: It's been said that Kate and Kendra didn't know who they were swapping with.
Maybe they didn't know, but that is why it is called "wife" swap, the other parent would be there with the children. Kate is not a wife, she's an ex-wife, so there is no other parent present in the house. Sorry, a babysitter just does not cut it in my book.
[excerpt from Kate's bullying story at BullyVILE]
I am so grateful to the many corporations, family and friends who have chosen to see me for who I really am and know the truth and goodness that defines me.
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The last part of that paragraph gets to me-
"the truth and goodness that defines me."
Kate will NEVER understand that she is wrong in every way. She doesn't get it- she never will.
Penny said... 135
''...I must say that I'd leave my kids with an ex-drugged, Hefner teabagging, nude dancing, sex recording person before I'd ever leave them with someone like Kate.
Kate may not do drugs, pose nude or sleep with corpses but she DOES beat the crap out of babies for potty accidents.
Kendra over kate ANYDAY. ''
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AMEN!! It is the abuse of the toddlers over potty training that trumps everything.
Jon should sue Kate for defaming the Gosselin name.
Poor Grandpa Gosselin (may he rest in peace) must be turning in his grave.
Even when I hear Ryan Gosling's name, I react viscerally, with a shudder.
Jon, sue Kate for your family name.
just a mom and grandma said... 136
Re: It's been said that Kate and Kendra didn't know who they were swapping with.
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To tell the truth-IF they didn't know who they were swapping with, it just makes it look worse. It just shows that "I don't care about my kids" as long as I get an opportunity to be on TV!! And in my opinion, that says it all.
As a mother, you're first priority should be your kids, not appearing on a TV show to exploit them. Kate says "it was fun", but the true question is, was it fun for her kids?
Kate always puts herself ahead of her kids, no matter how much she tries to state otherwise. Bottom line in Kate's world-"I" come first, and my kids have to understand that.
miloandjack
@msgoody2shoes21 I thought the threats abt bank accts...I did see one..was just a #EmptyThreat 2worry them & make them back down!
Oh, so threats are fine. Nothing to worry about. Those exposed knew exactly that the hackers were bluffing. Got it. That's why one of them closed down all of his accounts because there was nothing to worry about, an empty threat.
I swear...Milo has the intelligence and critical thinking ability of a bale of hay.
miloandjack
@msgoody2shoes21 Kate quickly said she would never condone that..&neither would I! Revealing the IDs was what I felt might help X-out hate!
How, Milo? Exactly how would revealing the IDS help get rid of the hate? Milo says she is so protective of her family and kids because they were stalked, and yet she condones revealing the IDs of others. I guess if someone would reveal her identity and personal information she would be okay with that. Gosh almighty this woman is stupid. Yes, STUPID. No, wait...BEYOND stupid.
Is it just me, or does anyone else find it odd to describe oneself as "truth and goodness"? Such an odd description, don't you think? Kate, always trying too hard, always. She needs to read and re-read the letter from the Coupon Cabin executive. Might just learn something about herself. Due to the fact that she was filming or about to film CWS when the exec wrote the open letter, Kate probably just "blew it off." Most of us "normal" people would still be hanging our heads in shame over that letter. It appears to have no effect on Kate whatsoever. I still think there is teflon somehow involved with her. Odd duck, really odd.
LaLaLand said, " Most of us "normal" people would still be hanging our heads in shame over that letter."
I agree! Kate has done so many things that have become public information -- things that I would hanging my head, banging my head on a hard surface, or hiding in a dark closet over.
She has no sense of shame or remorse or introspection. She isn't embarrassed. She doesn't learn from mistakes. She doesn't listen to advice.
She is dense!
Kate is a twit said... 140
''.... Kate says "it was fun", but the true question is, was it fun for her kids?
Kate always puts herself ahead of her kids, no matter how much she tries to state otherwise. Bottom line in Kate's world-"I" come first, and my kids have to understand that.''
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You are so right...the bottom line is that it was ''fun'' for KK, and in the world of KK, that is ALL that matters. However, I don't think it even enters KK's mind that her kids should understand, because in KK's world SHE is all that matters.
"the truth and goodness that defines me."
Sounds like a quote from the "Superman" series--"truth, justice and the American way".
Kate defines herself as "Supermom"--However, she is also her own version of "kryptonite"--she will eventually be the cause of her own downfall.
Kate is a Twit, that's just it! Her fans are completely glossing over the fact that SuperProtectiveMom was willing to leave her kids with a stranger and strange camera crew. Her head cheerleader isn't even grasping that fact. They really don't care as long as they get to see Kate and her kids on tv again. It could have been Jack the Ripper for all they care--but by God, Kate's back on tv!
I do have to wonder if what will be shown is Kate keeping it real and being her well-known shrieking, controlling, ME, ME, ME self, or if she put on a completely different fraudulent persona in hopes of turning her image around for more gigs?
@141...
Oh, so threats are fine. Nothing to worry about. Those exposed knew exactly that the hackers were bluffing. Got it. That's why one of them closed down all of his accounts because there was nothing to worry about, an empty threat.
I swear...Milo has the intelligence and critical thinking ability of a bale of hay.
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Just when I think Milo couldn't get any more idiotic than she already is, she comes out with something like that. I shouldn't be surprised at her moronic statements, but somehow she seems to come up with some real zingers that top her previous ones.
kate is a twit said...
They may pretend they didn't know--but really, would you agree to let anyone be with your kids without knowing who they were?
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Hasn't there always been a parent with the kids before? Anyone know if this is the first time the kids were left with a babysitter?
My kids would have been freaked out to the nth degree!
At least another parent would provide some consistency in their lives. Just curious--would people here feel the same if Jon was on the show at home with the kids? I have a feeling that more of us would be tempted to watch than may watch with just Kate--I know I would. But I would fight that impulse and just rely on Admin's recap. But, I wouldn't judge anyone else if they would watch.
I am very sad that the kids are back on TV...it is tragic that these poor kids aren't allowed the privacy that every kid needs. Who knows--maybe we will all see what a great mom she is and how she has been so terribly misunderstood...
Not holding out any hope, though.
Oh katie, you and your eight are such old news.
Based on what this couple is saying, they'll have at least 6 before they're done. Numbers aside, they've got you beat.
http://news.sky.com/story/1054148/double-identical-twins-born-on-same-day
Here's hoping that they live a wonderful and private .life.
"the truth and goodness that defines me" I have never read a more completely false statement in all my days (and they are considerable).
Kate's "brand" is her children, but she does nothing to be beneficial to her children unless it benefits HER. Do any of the moms on this blog, or any other blog, consider leaving their children (I don't care how many children you have) to a porn star with no morals to take care of them for a WEEK?
Come on people. This one is for the record books. Katie Kreider is the worst "mother" on tv or any other media outlet that chooses to portray her as a mom doing it all. Nothing could be further from the truth. I only raised four sons, but I did it on my own, without help from a tv network, took them on wonderful trips that created many memories without cameras in their faces and they turned out to make me proud of them for all eternity.
"truth and goodness that define me."
Is she kidding? Who says that about herself?
What a delusional braggart she is showing herself to be.
Lbelle--great catch on the www.regainyourname.com website. Wouldn't you just know it that there is a Bullying event coming up in Australia (or NZ-can't remember which). She is probably gritting for a paid speaker slot with all expenses paid. That is probably what this has been about all along. she was trying to Wag the Dog that she is currently being bullied.
Another epic fail. Oh lord, is that the sound of sheep's hooves clacking out their endorsement of Kate as a spokesperson?
lukebandit, so happy to hear you are going home!! Now you take it easy and rest, don't try to do too much at once. God bless, hon.
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Some of the scuttlebutt I've read online indicates that she and Hank Sr. did not get along.
I'm just catching up with this whole "bully-twitter-gate" saga. Did Kate really tell these kids who to target? What real celebrity does that?
You know, I don't like saying this about someone but Kate Gosselin is just plain clueless and I'll even go so far as saying stupid. Stupid is as stupid does, after all. I don't think I've ever met anyone THAT self absorbed. Really.
You are so right...the bottom line is that it was ''fun'' for KK, and in the world of KK, that is ALL that matters. 144
Remona, it doesn't even matter if KK had fun. She was being filmed and by God she will say and do anything to keep that going. I think
she really believes that the world "owes" her a "fun" life, hence, anything involving filming was fun and the world owes her more of it.
Just when I think Milo couldn't get any more idiotic than she already is, she comes out with something like that 147
Actually, I think she topped that when she said she wished that kate on CWS was a weekly occurrence
Actually, I think she topped that when she said she wished that kate on CWS was a weekly occurrence
Actually, wasn't that one of the scenarios for Twist of Kate? That she would go into other people's homes, live their lives for a few days and then offer helpful advice on how to make it better? If memory serves, TLC passed.
Again, ABC is simply doing this for ratings. They don't care if she's a nice person or not. Just as long as she brings in the ratings.
I just have to ask-which is worse?
Kate knowing that she was swapping with Kendra, or as ABC plays it, not knowing who is going to be taking care of your kids for a week?
If it's true that Kate didn't know who she was swapping with, IMO, that makes it worse. She agreed to let her kids be filmed not knowing who was going to be in charge of them. Even if Ashley was there, what does it say about her parenting?
"I do everything for my kids"--I think not--it's more like "I let my kids do everything for ME."
She basically sold her kids to ABC--no questions asked. All so that she could be back on TV again.
I hope she left Kendra that long, convoluted diatribe about the laundry that she blogged about clearly indicating she had no idea how the laundry was done and that Kendra breaks it all down and finds an easier way to do all the things that KT tries to make look so difficult.
That she would go into other people's homes, live their lives for a few days and then offer helpful advice on how to make it better? If memory serves, TLC passed.
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I thought TLC filmed a few episodes. It seems she was seen flipping pancakes somewhere. Wasn't that for Twist of Kate?
Quick Question said... 2
Admin a quick question if you put "i think" "In my opinion" or even "allegedly" in front of a sentence accusing someone of committing a crime does it absolve you from all civil and criminal prosecution?
February 18, 2013 at 12:47 PM
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 4
Quick Question that question is not quick at all. :) I suggest you google it there are many sites that explain it well.
February 18, 2013 at 12:53 PM
Admin, since you are allegedly a "lawyer," I think Quick Question deserved a better response than telling her to go Google. The reason you told her that is because you have NO idea about the answer or anything else of a legal nature. You may have a law degree and somehow passed the bar, but you are no lawyer. You have shown your lack of legal acumen on this blog for years. Her question is a basic one and any lawyer could have at least attempted to answer it in a couple of sentences. Your blatant lack of knowledge of the law and no experience working in a real law firm has become obvious. Stop trying to pass yourself off as a real lawyer just because you got a law degree. Doesn't mean a damn thing in your case.
Silimom said...You know, I don't like saying this about someone but Kate Gosselin is just plain clueless
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Isn't that the exact word she used for one of her dear sons? I do remember which one, but I don't want to write it here.
It seems to me Kate suggesting they see the truth and goodness in her (lol!) suggests a naive lack of understanding of the business I wouldn't expect from someone in it for over five years. Unless these companies are issuing some statement about how much they love and support Kate, I really highly doubt anything of it has to do with them taking a moral stand and putting themselves on the line to stay in her corner. Please. It's a dollars in dollars out analysis. They are well aware of the controversy. They have to weigh the benefits and drawbacks of that controversy. Benefits, it might bring in business. Drawbacks, you might lose some. If the intellectuals crunching the numbers determine that keeping Kate on board will still keep them in the green and won't result in a significant loss of good will, she stays. If the numbers start going into the red, she's gone, it's as simple as that. Coupon Cabin was crunching numbers and eventually Kate turned up in the red. As soon as that happened it was inevitable they would let her go. Had nothing to do with supporting her or not supporting her. When she put them in the red she was gone. Right now the Stir is doing that same numbers crunch and I doubt she's on a green trend right now.
All that said if you even have to talk about how companies have stood by you through thick and thin you might want to examine what it is you are doing that would even cause an issue of whether companies would stand by you. Why do companies typically need to stand by you in the first place if you weren't causing trouble?
If it's true that Kate didn't know who she was swapping with, IMO, that makes it worse. She agreed to let her kids be filmed not knowing who was going to be in charge of them. Even if Ashley was there, what does it say about her parenting?
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I totally agree. It doesn't matter if the kids were left with Pioneer Woman, the very fact that you would put your kids up there like lambs to the slaughter not knowing if their new mommy was PW or Diane Downs is just insane. Plus how does SHE know the kids really had fun? Was she there? This goes for Kendra too, though her role is just slightly mitigated by the fact that at least her husband was there to protect them.
I just hit on who they really should have swapped Kate with. Pioneer Woman. Now that I would want to watch.
Oh anonymous I can't win. Respond with a long post and I'm a know at all. Don't respond and I'm not a real lawyer. You could write a thesis on opinions when it comes to libel law. The court cases are numerous. It would be irresponsible to try to explain such a complicated subject, arguably the most complicated in libel law, in a few sentences (and possibly make someone think I was giving them the go ahead, which I don't want to b responsible for), which is why I suggested other sites because they do do a much better job, because it's true, they do. Besides I've decided to more or less stop answering legal questions here, and haven't said much for a long time. Most questions go unanswered and that's why. Here's a tip though, if a lawyer is trying to explain something as complicated as libel law in two sentences, don't trust them.
Admin, since you are allegedly a "lawyer," I think Quick Question deserved a better response than telling her to go Google.
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Not at all. This isn't a law blog. It is not admin's responsibility to give legal advice. I'm sure there are business women on this blog. They don't give advice on how to run a company. Nurses here don't give medical advice. Does that mean they aren't nurses or business women, simply because they don't answer questions in their professional fields?
"You have shown your lack of legal acumen on this blog for years. Her question is a basic one and any lawyer could have at least attempted to answer it in a couple of sentences."
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A lawyer could have attempted to answer, but why would he/she do so when there are many sites which could explain it much better than in a couple of sentences? From what I understand, the issue of libel is very complicated and can't be answered in a couple of sentences. Moreover, defamation law varies from state to state...an attorney just can't make a blanket statement and say that the law applies to everyone everywhere.
Moreover, defamation law varies from state to state...an attorney just can't make a blanket statement and say that the law applies to everyone everywhere.
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Appreciate that SIT. I said a few posts later "it depends." LOL. That's the blanket statement here. :)
Not only does it vary state to state but it's a constantly evolving thing. I don't have the foggiest idea where that poster lives or where the case law stands today in 2013.
Another thing to Google is law school. Lawyers aren't taught every single law every single place. That's not how law school works. Lawyers are taught a general overview, a little libel law here, a little property there, it's a lot when you add it all up and you do have to know a TON for the bar, BUT given all the volumes upon volumes of law out there, it's really probably only .5% of what's out there. Rather, lawyers are taught how to look up the law, understand the law, and apply it to your situation to get a result. In Los Angeles alone on any given day dozens upon dozens of new cases come out. You'd have to be a maniac if you wanted to keep up with all of it. You are rarely asked in an interview about a case or a law. Rather, I was given hypothetical situations and hypothetical laws, and asked to demonstrate how I would apply those laws to those situations. Heck even if you did know all the law, thanks to people like Murt and others it wouldn't be the same six months later. Makes it sound more like a cunning game of chess, which is what I like about it. It is not like on TV.
. Her question is a basic one
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Forgive me for one more post. No, anonymous, her question was not a basic one AT ALL. As if it could be that easy. A basic question is can I kill someone? No obviously. Well, wait, even that depends. Is it self-defense? Was it done in the heat of passion? Were you in wartime or were you acting in the line of duty as a police officer? Nothing is "basic" in the law and it's irresponsible to suggest otherwise.
Silimom said... 156
''Actually, wasn't that one of the scenarios for Twist of Kate? That she would go into other people's homes, live their lives for a few days and then offer helpful advice on how to make it better? If memory serves, TLC passed.''
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Maybe TLC passed on Twist of Kate because it was KK, and not the children? I wouldn't object if KK managed to get Twist of Kate on television even now. As long as the children are NOT on anything that KK does on television, I'm fine with it...and I suspect most of us would be.
Not only does it vary state to state but it's a constantly evolving thing. I don't have the foggiest idea where that poster lives or where the case law stands today in 2013.
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Not only that, but there are practice areas in law. I wouldn't go to a real estate or tax attorney if I needed a personal injury attorney. Not all attorneys can answer questions on every aspect of the law, particularly if that isn't their area of expertise.
You also wouldn't go to a pediatrist if you were having headaches. Doesn't mean the pediatrist is a bad doctor and deserves ridicule just because the only thing he knows about headaches is a broad overview of the cranium from med school.
Actually a lot of my lawyer friends complain about this, saying they hate stuff like when their buddy calls them when they have a ticket or is having problems with their landlord. Especially if they are like, a bankruptcy attorney. As if they know anything more about such a thing than anyone else. It has not annoyed me yet, but I can see how it might.
Quick Question said... 2
Admin a quick question if you put "i think" "In my opinion" or even "allegedly" in front of a sentence accusing someone of committing a crime does it absolve you from all civil and criminal prosecution?
February 18, 2013 at 12:47 PM
Quick Question, My husband is a lawyer and I asked him your question. He said that it depends on the circumstances of the case. However, if the criminal charges have been dropped and the person you accused can prove that you made these accusations in bad faith despite the fact you prefaced your accusation with “allegedly,” or “in my opinion,” etc., they can sue you for slander.
I wonder if Kate gets a viewing of CWS before it airs? Does she have to wait with everyone else to see if she is the "good" Kate or the "manic" Kate?
Naturally this leads me down the rabbit hole trying to remember the famous case that we all read about opinion, I vividly remembered it was about a sports columnist. Quickly found it thanks to google. Milkovich v. Lorain Journal Co. (no wonder I couldn't remember it). It's actually a really interesting case about a sports columnist who was spouting off about a wrestling coach who got in trouble, and it's interesting how some of the lower courts were basically saying well it's a column of course you exaggerate of course you're spouting off and it may not all be accurate, doesn't mean you are libeling anyone. SC didn't buy it. The LA Times has a good article from the archives about it when it came out that's an interesting read, if you're interested. People were concerned by this decision. The answer remains, it depends. Even the SC judges weren't unanimous:
http://articles.latimes.com/1990-06-22/news/mn-80_1_supreme-court
Wikipedia says this case just "confused" the issue all the more, all the more reason I said you really should read on google about this.
Dmasy, good question. You can bet yourself if it were my eight kids going on national T.V. I would absolutely insist on being able to view and veto the final product before anything sees the light of day. You can write it into your contract. No indication from Kate she's seen the episode, only that it was fun fun fun!
Admin, since you are allegedly a "lawyer," I think Quick Question deserved a better response than telling her to go Google. The reason you told her that is because you have NO idea about the answer or anything else of a legal nature.
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Really, Anonymous? REALLY? While you have every right to believe whatever you want, this
is just incredulous. As much as you think Admin is a pretend lawyer, I believe her to be
smart enough not to get hooked into the business of legalopinionsRUS.
More dumb things that sheeple say...
jasrjs1228
@Kateplusmy8 K8 Srsly wht do u do whn u get sick of coffee? I can only have a cup or 2 thn get jittrs& stmch will hurt!
Patient: Doctor, my arm hurts when I twist it around my back.
Doctor: Then don't twist it around your back!
If coffee doesn't agree with you, don't drink it! She needs Kate to tell her that? Geez...
Admin-I know people ask you legal questions because you are a lawyer--but I respect when you honestly admit that you don't know the answer. Some legal questions cannot be answered in a simple sentence.
Just like when people on twitter ask Kate medical questions. They expect her to be the authority on all things medical even though she has only been a nurse.
I think you're answer was the right one. To say I don't know, and to suggest further research about the question at hand is a lot better than having a nurse who hasn't practiced in years give you medical advice, not knowing the whole case scenario.
Fido exactly. That question had the air of, if *I* did this would it be okay??? Red flags all over that one. That's legal advice which I have never given here. If it were just a general discussion hey what do you think of this, that's different. In fact I remember a discussion awhile back about natural remedies and some of us were getting uncomfortable that some people might take it as medical advice because some people actually in the profession were weighing in, even though it wasn't meant that way and was certainly meant as nothing but helpful and caring. But you have to be careful when you are licensed in certain fields with things like that and not assume everyone thinks you are off the clock.
Or you could try decaf like me, it was life changing! (Coffee literally gives me panic attacks and heart palpitations, it's insane). Good Lord the helplessness.
Note, this is not medical or legal advice.
For Argo fans, I just got the book thanks to Kindle. Number one, I never would have known about Kindle library without this blog. I've never seen mention of it anywhere else but here. Number two, I have been reading a lot more now thanks to Kindle. I often find myself in long lines or waiting for something or other and it's so easy to just whip it out and read a page or two. I maybe read one or two books a year, now I'm reading one a month or so, which is great. I can't WAIT for this one.
Arrggghhh, are the trolls out to play in our neck of the internet again. Yes, please go to the podiatrist for an operation on that brain tumor you have. Just like Katie Irene is a nurse because she passed her boards, Admin passed her bar and is a lawyer, period. I can see why ab attorney that practices family law would be interested in the Katie Irene exploits her kids saga, like Katie wanting fame from having a passel of kids at once would get into ob/gyn nursing practice. Thankfully, unlike Katie our admin doesn't pretend to be super lawyer and spout of like a know it all. Gawd, remembering the idiot advice Katie's given out on twitter rather then the sage advice of admin telling them to call their dr. go to the ER etc, dangerous and I do wonder why her BON would allow her to act as a nurse over the internet. I've a relative that works in at 24/7 "ask a nurse" hotline and they can't give advice to people that are not in one of their "compact" (think that's the word she used) states. As a lawyer, admin, may also have stipulation about acting as a lawyer to someone out of areas that she has a license to practice. My relative also is telling me that once she starts communicating with the person they have established a nurse patient relationship. She was telling me about how the neighbors get huffy when they come over or call asking for advice and she declines to do more then refer them to their dr. or ER. While,they may get huffy like anon she not unlike the admin. would like to keep her license. Why is she expected to give out free advice to anyone. Gawd, what a lazy bunch of entitled people live in this world. Working in admissions I get a lot of entitled people who think they should not have to pay their bills so not such a huge surprise to me but boy it's irritating to deal with such snots. And I hate it for admin sake, like I do for my cousin.
Sorry for the rant.
And Katie Irene, just keeps getting more stupid and irritating a heck. Right, Katie, name one company that is standing behind you right now due to your truth and goodness. Oh, right, none. Just because someone is using you in hopes of getting a payback doesn't mean they think as highly of you as you do. Those poor kids, I hope none of them end up like her.
Yes Ladybug, I'm actually only insured for what I do in the context of the workplace so for that reason alone I don't touch anything. You should never go near the law without insurance. Trust me when crazies like Chris Dorner decide they are upset, you want to be insured. Someone like that can cost you thousands.
Anonymous said...
Stop trying to pass yourself off as a real lawyer just because you got a law degree. Doesn't mean a damn thing in your case.
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Really-a law degree does not a lawyer make? Then what does--a degree in chemistry? Do you have proof that Admin hasn't passed the bar exam? BTW, CA has one of the toughest bar exams in the US.
Can't we all just get along?
51% of people fail the bar in CA. I'm very proud of passing it on the first try. However just because you failed doesnt mean you won't make an excellent lawyer. Some people are bad test takers but great lawyers. Just took them two or three tests to get there, whatever. Im with you Ex nurse how about we just get along?
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Wife swap with @KendraWilkinson and @Kateplusmy8 next week? My life is complete.
It is good to know that so many sheeple will be walking around with their lives complete. Makes you wonder how unfulfilled they would be if they had to go through the next several decades without watching Kate on CWS. What kind of depression would set in? How unproductive would their lives be? Would they become outcasts of society?
I find it interesting that "anonymous" wants free legal advice from admin, then gets bent out of shape when told to do her own legal research.
Additionally, if it was such a "basic question," then why didn't anonymous figure out the "basic" answer on her own?
People always looking for freebies I guess, then getting all cranky when told to do some work on their own. Just because someone is an attorney does not require them to dispense free legal advice to anonymous posters on a blog. Geez.
Come to think of it it does get rather irritating when someone I know is always asking me and others about his taxes. He works abroad a lot and it gets complicated. I don't know what to tell him other than you better make sure your ducks are in a row. Dude, you make money, go hire a CPA. It does sometimes come across as cheap. My aunt is a nurse but I always assume she doesn't want to hear about my aches and pains when we see each other. I don't want her feeling like I'm too cheap to pay the co-pay.
Well, just damn. I thought I could get a law degree and make millions of dollars just by participating on a blog about reality TV. You mean I can't?
On to my next career choice.
A good friend of mine is a physician. He came to hate cocktail parties dinner events because invariable he was asked medical advice. He learned fast how to tell the person that he was accepting new patients, or what kind of a doctor they should see about that. Turns out most of them were just making conversation they thought he would be interested in, but there were a few who really wanted a diagnosis on the spot. And probably a prescription for good measure.
Additionally, if it was such a "basic question," then why didn't anonymous figure out the "basic" answer on her own?
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Or visit a "basic" libel law website -- "Defamation for Dummies."
Fido I can totally understand that. I actually usually don't tell people what I do and neither do my friends. Not only does it invite , but also the lawyer jokes or stories that get old. Also some say it intimidates some people, while at the same time having the opposite effect on others as if it's some kind of weird free pass to bully you. It's a strange thing. Also people feel it's totally appropriate to demand how lawyers could possibly work with a criminal in good conscience. I don't mind people wondering that and google is yet again a good place to read about why lawyers feel called to do what they do, but personally I think this is very rude to ask of someone you barely know. You never got this reaction in high school when I said I washed dishes. Without lying, there are many other ways to describe what you do without saying you are a lawyer. Makes things easier.
Somehow that got caught off. Should be "not only does it invite solicitations of free legal advice"...
To Anon with the lawyer husband.
I asked my lawyer husband and he said if a person was charged it's not libelous to say they were charged. Doesn't matter the outcome they were charged. A lot of first time offenders get off because they were first time offenders but still doesn't mean they weren't charged.
LOL see disagreement on this issue even among the lawyer husbands. Not a "basic question" at all. I agree with Tammy though, if you are charged you're charged and it's fine to say so.
Speaking of being charged, I find Blade Runner's story about how he shot his girlfriend a little bit out there. Just me?
Perhaps I'm paranoid but I kind of wondered if that original question about opinion was a troll question trying to get some kind of response from me so they could say that I was encouraging libel or something. I didn't take the bait and obviously that frustrated somebody. I am all for a truce myself. enough already, Ex nurse said it well, we seem to all agree on the same basic things and we can both play on our playgrounds peacefully, there is a space and role for all and need for all, that was seen especially when some people did such a great job making screen captures this week. I love the biblical analogy of different parts of the body all performing different functions. Every part is different but they're all working for the same thing. An ear does not troll and get angry at a toe because it's different. :) I believe this anyway.
I saw the first ABC ad for Celebrity Wife Swap tonight. Wow. Kate's kids look so different. Unrecognizable.
I saw the first ABC ad for Celebrity Wife Swap tonight. Wow. Kate's kids look so different. Unrecognizable.
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This makes my stomach drop. They had a CHANCE at having a private life and being unrecognizable because they were changing so much. No more. Not for awhile anyway. Now they have to start over from square one.
I asked the original question about libel. Sorry to cause such trouble. Another blog was saying it was fine to say anything you like as long as you say allegedly or in my opinion in front of it.
I know that to be wrong and I just wanted to let them know in a way that was not direct as to not step on anyone's toes.
Bladerunners story is way off. If you wake up and hear someone in a tiny bathroom, wouldn't your first thought be
"my lover is in the bathroom".
Who on earth would wake up hear someone in the bathroom and think,
"there must be a criminal in my bathroom I need to shoot it"
QuestionASker thanks so much for clarifying that. I totally disagree with a blanket statement that it's always okay to say that. I don't and never meant it in a flippant way at all to say google it, because it really is true, there are some really great sites devoted to the complex and in my opinion interesting world of libel that do a good job explaining the whole "my opinion" thing.
In the case I cited, a sports columnist was NOT able to get away with just saying "my opinion" when he spread misinformation about a coach. That should be enough for people to realize that no, my opinion may not always cover you.
You didn't cause trouble, you caused an interesting discussion for nerds interested in this. :)
Exactly Tammy. Here is where his story doesn't add up for me. He said he assumed his girlfriend was sleeping beside him. Um, wouldn't the FIRST thing you do if you hear someone in the bathroom is check to be sure she wasn't sleeping beside him? And isn't activity in the bathroom a very normal thing to hear in the middle of the night, why would you assume intruder?? How can you not "look" or even notice if someone is not in the bed with you? Even a huge bed? That makes no sense. It was a nice effort and I've heard worse, but I don't buy it. It really doesn't help that they have a history of conflict.
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