Kate with swap places with Kendra Wilkinson, tonight at 8 EST on ABC. Also this morning, Kate will be a guest on The View.
Tuesday, February 26, 2013
Discussion Thread: Celebrity Wife Swap
Kate with swap places with Kendra Wilkinson, tonight at 8 EST on ABC. Also this morning, Kate will be a guest on The View.
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I was like that's Deanna really???
lukebandit said... 180
''... Also, did you see the picture they used of Jon talking to the press and they BLURRED OUT HIS FACE! How dare her have that done! Of course she did!''
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I did see that they'd blurred out Jon's face, but I had a different reaction than you. I thought that the blurring of Jon's face was yet more confirmation that Jon REALLY objected to KK doing CWS. He was so disapproving that he wouldn't allow his face to be shown on the episode. I did a ''KK smirk'' and thought good for you, Jon...make it too obvious to miss!!
Yeah, she made a big stink about Hank Jr. not using a fork at 2 1/2 years old, but she had her kids in high chairs and drinking from sippy cups until 6 or 7!!!
AND she still has them eating on divided plates. And she doesn't allow them to serve themselves.
She needs to take her own advice. She is joyless, personality-less, and a complete cold fish. Her eyes are like dead shark eyes. I forgot how much they give me the chills.
Of course she did! I hope Jon has some recourse about the show. Cant he sue ABC for using his kids without his permission? He does have joint custody!
I don't want to burst your love bubble, but I don't think Jon cares. It appears you care more than he does. And that's just sad.
So Kate's only friend, Deanna, was the one who played the "significant other" part. Gee, she looks like she's pretty young and seems quite enamored with Kate. I wonder how long before she wises up to how Kate really is--and gets thrown to the curb?
but it had nothing to do with the ordering of words. I don't see how awkward wording has a thing to do with dialect. I don't know, kinda makes PA people seem stupid and that was not the case I noticed whatsoever.
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admin, in Lancaster and Berks counties it has a lot to do with word order because of the German language, in which subjects/ verbs are placed differently than in the English language. When sentences are spoken in English, often the placement of words follows the German, such as "throw the cow over the fence some hay," or "turn out the light" becomes "make the light out" which is "schalten das Licht aus" in German.
Deanna is a celebrity hanger-on, and Kate is the closest she can get to a real celebrity.
Cara and the boys all seem very sad.
Interesting that what Kate got out of this is that she needs more time on herself. I got that Kate needs to spend more time with the kids having some fun.
I think Jon made a deal with the devil and gave up any say in his kids lives in exchange for being released from child support.
You know what ticks me off is that Kendra WORKS for a living. Her job is on TV - even if it is the reality type.
Kate made it look like all Kendra does is lay around the house and have Hank spoon feed her.
Kate has NO kids at home from 7am until 4pm. She doesn't have any job outside the home. Plenty of time to clean, do laundry, etc.
WHAT A B#TCH!
And those poor little boys. They look so haunted and sad. When Kate came home they went up to her and then turned around and walked away back into the house. I've met those little guys and when they are with Jon they are in a completely different frame of mind, just being free and happy with him. I sincerely pray that Jon can get full-time custody of them. They need him.
Kate has screwed those sweet boys up for a long time.
And...yes, we were right, those little boys take care of the chickens and the girls didn't until Kendra changed the rules.
Ugggghhhh...the show was nauseating! Kate kept ranting about how hard it is for her to take time for herself...wtf?!?! When did you get those nails done? Or have time to bake yourself orange? Or shop for those hooker heels and slutty dresses? Or get your hair fried? Paleese! She was soooo insulting to Kendra. I thought kendra was great with the kids. It was probably the first time they had a whole week of no one screaming at them! Cara looks like walking depression....Mady is a Kate mini-me....the boys looks like numb little auto-trons with NO expression...lifeless. Because Deanna was in the show is a clear indication to me that kate has driven everyone out of her life. I don't think this is going to look good for Kate. I do think it helped Kendra. All Kate proved was that she is a narcissist who thinks she is the voice of authority on all things in mothering. Sad
I was blown away one evening when I babysat for a family of 2 young children. The girl was about 6, the boy about 3. In their living room,
front and center over their fireplace, was a huge original painting of Mrs. Mommy in the nude, standing "demurely", but with everything showing. My ears popped and I couldn't believe what I was seeing. Nobody in the family seemed to mind, but I was shocked. Not what I expected to see, I'll tell you.
You know what ticks me off is that Kendra WORKS for a living. Her job is on TV - even if it is the reality type.
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Exactly, she does work. I may not approve of many of the jobs she does but even as we speak she has a WEEKLY T.V. series she probably has to spend at MINIMUM eight hours a day on. I don't understand how Kate got out of this Kendra is lazy. I may not like what she does but she is NOT LAZY. I bet many porn stars are workaholics.
Um, maybe Hank takes care of her because she is doing her fair part to take care of the family! Isn't that what Kate demanded of Jon? Hypocritical.
Haven't sen it yet but I agree with the comments, for all Kate claiming we are jealous, it's crystal clear who has the jealous personality here.
I'm trying to play catch up again on here but I gotta say I agree with you 100% Rearranging The Chairs. If it quacks like a duck, walks like a duck,looks like a duck - it's a duck (or in this case prostitute).
I just read the bit about Jon not being involved in the decision to televise his children and am sickened. I can't believe this is legal. I'm dumbfounded that she continuously gets away with this.
My prediction for future career projects for KIG are "Anorexia Cookbook For Dummies" and then consultant for the Lifetime movie that's bound to be made about her life and crimes. I hope someone has notified The Tanning Mom of her upcoming role, and she's begun drama classes for her portrayal of Kate. Enunciation of "umms" will be of particular importance.
I think Jon made a deal with the devil and gave up any say in his kids lives in exchange for being released from child support.
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Under PA law that's illegal. Child support is about best interests of the children not back door deals.
If he made such a deal why would Kate keep him so uninvolved with the process? The whole thing stinks of a coverup. You wouldn't cover it up if you had some kind of up and up deal.
I just looked at Kate's twitter to see what she was tweeting during the show. When someone told her she came across as harsh when Kate was speaking to Kendra and Hank, Kate tweets:
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8
@brendabee081581 editing shortened it. Was a love fest round table meeting! Promise!
There she goes again, blaming it on the editing.
I saw one tweet where someone was saying how cute Hank, Jr. was and I can't believe she actually tweeted:
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8
@Will6786 he's an amazing SMART precious little guy. I truly have never met a little boy like him..
All I can say is WOW! She has 3 sons and she says that! I have no words to describe how I feel right now. What a despicable bitch is the best I can do.
I don't know how Kate could get away with doing a show without Jon's consent unless they have some sort of agreement. I don't think she would just let him stop paying child support without getting something in return. She never does anything for nothing.
It looks like Steve may have gone on to other endeavors. Deanna looks like such a butt kisser and sat there not saying a word, just kept shaking her head agreeing with Kate. This too shall be short lived. The boys seem so sad and down trodden. Cara seems sad also. She has a nerve trying to tell the Basketts how to live their lives when they seem perfectly happy and their son also seems happy and well adjusted. Hank Jr sat at the table on a chair at age 2 1/2. The "littles" were still in high chairs at nearly 8 years old.
So much for the new chore jar...back in October, she had a mile long chore list posted on the refrigerator, that they supposedly always follow daily.
Did anyone else catch that the treehouse for the kids was LOCKED and Mady said that Kate keeps the key in her room (which is also locked)?
What a witch.
My daughter was yelling "It's THEIR treehouse! Let them play in it!"
The shower thing - I don't really see the big deal about it. I showered occasionally with both of my boys until they were 3.
It stopped when they asked why I didn't have a pee-pee ;0)
Admin @169 said...Really? I definitely heard a "philly accent" when I lived in PA, it sounded VERY STRONG to me as strong as a Jersey accent
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Not for nuttin' Admin but I don't have an accent! The rest of the country does. I will agree about the PA accent though. I'm from the "down the shore" and we could always tell by the accent when someone from PA was down for the weekend.
Not sure how to paste the comment I am commenting about within my post, could someone let me know. It won't let me just cut and paste.
192 Admin. I don't think it is an up and up deal, I'm sure Kate had a confidentiality agreement attached. I think Jon was out of options. The amount he was ordered to pay was way too much for his income now.
I did not watch the show but did read here and peeked at her twitter account and of course per Kate's twitter, it was editing Don't know what she was tweeting about, but for her to say this means her true colors where shown once again and she is explaining it away with her normal standby
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8
Rest assured.. This is edited to be short so it comes across a little different then what was meant. Agree @deannatweeting ?
I don't know how Kate could get away with doing a show without Jon's consent unless they have some sort of agreement.
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You certainly can get away with it if the judge has allowed you to make legal decisions. He may have decided neither one of these parents
I don't think we should get into this all again since we discussed it to death, but you can't "relieve" someone of child support out of the goodness of your heart not once it's in place in PA, you can't make back door deals, child support can be modified if it is too much, and the most logical and common reason there would be a reduction is due to more custodial time.
We've even seen both pics and tweets of the kids with Jon during the week. Liz tweeted several days he had custody. It all adds up.
littleangels5
@Kateplusmy8 Now that u have done the show, have u been taking more time 4 urself?
I think that the sheeple believe that the kids will always be toddlers at home and Kate is run ragged caring for all of them. They can't seem to get it through their thick skulls that these kids are almost nine years old and are gone for nine hours a day and with Jon on his custodial days. She has time for herself -- ALL DAY, every day, five days a week...not to mention the help that she has, even though she may deny it.
I thought it was funny that she would bash Kendra.
If I remember correctly (and I do)Kate was the lazy one while she and Jon were married.
Jon did everything while she sat on her butt.
kateplusmy8
@my2kittens they loved it and LOVED watching it! So fun to see 'our show' (us) again on tv
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Oh, barf.
I get editing out but how do you edit IN such nastiness??? Puppets, voiceovers?? LOL what a piece of work.
I'll be interested to see the ratings on this. There isn't nearly as much twittering over a prime time show on a major network as one would expect. Granted, it hasn't been shown on the west coast yet but still not what usually happens.
Sounds like Kate found a new one to boss around in Deanna?
Formerly Duped said... 109
Plastic surgeon no no.
Kate is de-again don't ya know she all natural...lol
For those of you who saw this latest debacle, did anyone notice how almost clinically depressed the Gosselin 8 looked? There were so few shots of the boys actually talking. Aiden looked like he wanted to cry half the time, as did Cara. Previously energetic and adorable Collin looked like a zombie. When Kendra gave them the surprise of a picnic downstairs (or "wherever you want to eat"), did anyone notice the look of abject horror on the kids' faces? I believe I even heard some child comment about "but we'll make a mess." There was fear in that voice, to me. The ONLY time I saw smiles on those children's faces was when Kendra took them to that play park. When Kendra had to leave, look closely at those kids' faces. I do believe Cara was crying - none of them look thrilled to see her go. And when their own mother came home, the reaction was completely underwhelming - made me think there was a director or somebody in the background telling them to "go hug your mother." I do believe that Kendra learned a great deal from this - Kate, not so much. I will bet my last dime (the one Obama hasn't taken) that shortly after the "followup notes" saying that Kate now has a "picnic night" and "allowed" the boys and girls to switch chores, she went right back to things as usual. She complained that Kendra did nothing - well, we all know that Kate does nothing as well. As this show proved, the kids are the ones who do most of the work both in the house and out of it. How terribly sad. This show was edited to the max and that infuriates me. As long as there is money anywhere, we all know that Kate has nannies and drivers and Steve (whatever he is) and cooks. At least Kendra was "honest" about it - and I do believe that this experience changed her to being a far better mom (and wife) than Kate will EVER be!
Here are some things I noted that I dont think have yet been said....
besides the fact that the show was VERY bboorriinngg!!!!!!!
Kate says Hank jr is 2.5 yrs old and should be using the fork himself. Please note that Hank jr was at the table with a real plate, no bib, and no booster seat. Kate fails to mention that her kids are still eating off of plastic divided plates and drinking out of adult version sippy cups, and she still dishes up their meals for them.
Which is why the taco scene was a disaster because they dont get to dish up themselves.
If kate has no one helping her with laundry, why does she have the label " washing machine door must be left open when not in use", and a tattered sign that outlines " School Uniform policy". That was not put there just for this show.
Why would Kate have the tree house locked with the key in her room? Because that would give them some control over going somewhere to " get away from it all".
Kate's ah ha moment should have been to realize that she doesnt need to be all controlling. She has created little robots who do exactly what she tells them to do. Once they get out from under her watchful eye/THUMB they will not know how to cope, and have a very good chance of going WILD in some way or other.
Of course it was edited to look like kate knows best how to parent kids. Even Deanna was scared when it was mentioned no rules. She has been brainwashed. Yep another "paid" friend! I bet because of kate not being a wife, ABC said... who do you have that can come.... kate only had Deanna, because she's the " sucker " right now. It wont be long.. Deanna will come to realize just like everyone else.
lukebandit said... 180
''... Also, did you see the picture they used of Jon talking to the press and they BLURRED OUT HIS FACE! How dare her have that done! Of course she did!''
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I did see that they'd blurred out Jon's face, but I had a different reaction than you. I thought that the blurring of Jon's face was yet more confirmation that Jon REALLY objected to KK doing CWS. He was so disapproving that he wouldn't allow his face to be shown on the episode. I did a ''KK smirk'' and thought good for you, Jon...make it too obvious to miss!!
School uniform "policy"?? Good lord, they warrant a POLICY? I thought you take them off and discard in the hamper! Silly me!
This woman has more rules and regulations than the Nazis.
MaggieL said... 6
I agree the kids freaked out when they spilled some food on the floor.
The kids seem like robots to me with all they do.
Chores
Homework
Bedtime
Scared to make a mess
I mean come one they are 12 and 8 where is the fun?
Where is the joy and laughter and happiness?
I sure didn't see any.
Alberta I don't care about the showering much since that's not supposed to be sexual in nature. Let's face it sometimes it's much easier to just hop in with the baby yourself. It should stop soon though as he is getting older, and I think you are right, the child will know when he wants to stop and so will you. I think a sexually explicit provocative photo that your child discovers is much worse.
That said I really don't think Kendra should discuss showering with her kids, it's a little odd to discuss such a thing if it's truly not that big of a deal. Her boundaries are questionable. What she's really thinking inside there is suspect.
We are Many~~~
Rearranging the Deck Chairs on the Titanic said... 116
To 31, 35 and 94: Kendra got $$$ MONEY $$$ for having $ex with Hugh Heffner and for nationally televising the show Girl$ Next Door. Sex for $$$ money $$$. SHE IS A WHORE. Khate is a fame whore. Don't blame me. It is THEIR behavior. If they did not behave in such a fa$hion, they would NOT be called WHORE$.
I found it interesting that at the beginning of the show, Kate was introducing herself and talking about her life. She said the usual:
I was on Dancing with the Stars
I'm a Mom of 8
I had 3 books on the "New York" bestseller list
I'm best known for my TLC series Jon & Kate plus 8
In 2010 we went through a very public divorce...
There are 2 brief shots of photos of Jon.
In both his face is blurred.
Don't think he gave permission or approved of this!
KW said... 195
''I don't know how Kate could get away with doing a show without Jon's consent unless they have some sort of agreement.''
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I believe Robert, and he said, ''All they were told by their loving mother about Kendra was that she was on Dancing With The Stars. They were instructed not to speak a word about it to anyone at school or anywhere else.'' She forced the kids to say nothing to Jon. Once they're behind that gate on her custody time, Jon doesn't have a clue what is happening unless his children tell him. By forcing them to keep secrets from Jon, he would have not known what was going on until it was too late.
As far as the child support payments go...when the custody is 50/50, neither parent pays child support.
I did see that they'd blurred out Jon's face, but I had a different reaction than you. I thought that the blurring of Jon's face was yet more confirmation that Jon REALLY objected to KK doing CWS.
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Exactly, they would have had to get his permission to show that or he might have sued them to get paid for it. Clearly he gave no such permission.
That really says a lot right there. A lot. Between that and Kate's crystal clear statement she did not involve him in this, I am relieved my gut feeling was correct.
I tried posting this earlier, but it seems to not have gone through. Some fans were saying what a cute little boy Hank Jr. was and Kate responded to one of them by saying this:
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8
@Will6786 he's an amazing SMART precious little guy. I truly have never met a little boy like him..
Did she just forget that she has 3 sons!? What a despicable thing for her to say. I have no words to describe the anger I felt when I saw that tweet.
Remona, to add to that, even if she was "required" to get Jon's permission, that doesn't mean she didn't just disregard that stipulation and do it anyway. She could have played dumb afterward well I didn't know that applied to just one episode I though that meant signing on for a series, crap like that. It wouldn't be the first time she id whatever she wanted. No never means no, remember?
And for something like this, the worst the judge would probably do is slap her on the wrist and tell her not to do it again. It's very hard to get judges excited about anything but the most egregious of behaviors. And, it would take a lot of time, effort and most of all money to try to get her held in contempt for it.
This witch has the father over a barrel. She really does. She knows full well for him to try to stop her will bankrupt him. It's really disgusting watching this parental alienation play out over the years. And this environment sure doesn't seem to be fostering happy happy joy joy kids like Kate so badly wants us to believe on twitter. We have eyes and ears and we weren't born yesterday.
If people say the kids where rude I didn't see it but how can you blame them?
Think about it.
Their mom leaves when she feels like it.
-and for how long she feels like leaving.
Their mom puts them on TV when ever she can.
Their mom put them on TV with a stranger.
Who know's how many takes the 8 had to go through and how many hours they worked.
Kate was gone for a week and they were with strangers.
I bet they didn't get to see Jon.
I feel sad for them
It looks like Kendra threw a few things into a suitcase and showed up. On the other hand, it looks like kate purchased a whole new wardrobe. It's funny how she has a perfect outfit for every occasion. Either she grifted a clothing allowance or she spent hundreds of dollars of the kids money on new clothes.
KW
My screen froze, so not sure if my comment went through....
This is will satisfy her ego for a couple of weeks - she'll be very chatty on twitter (that's her M.O.).
This will not do anything for her career wise. Does anyone think this will catapult Coolio's career when he's on CWS next?
Yeah, not so much...
I have never, in all my years of tree houses, heard of anyone thinking to LOCK THEM UP.
The.....HELL???
Again, the....hell?????!!!!!
Aww sheesh, Kendra was in tears trying to be mean? Geez, even a "slut" and "whore" feels deep in her heart this is just not right.
Kate, IMO, has always shown more affection to kids not her own. I remember one show with a little boy she carried the whole time, and with jamie's son, she got down right dirty in the mud with him, whille her children watched in horror.
IMO, I believe Kate sees other peoples kids as kids, but her own, not so. She disengaged from them for whatever reason, and they became the 6 little money makers. The older 2 may have seen this affection until the sextuplets came along.
Kate must believe that if she loses control, her kids will be out of control. She herself has said how hard they are on items, how out of control they are, yet, we all saw tonight that she has 3 little boys, and one older daughter who are emotionaless zombies, who Kate is currently bragging about on twitter as being kids who just " go along with the flow".. Isnt that great, arent I lucky?
Those 4 kids, sadly, have been broken. Their spirits are broken :(
So now she's going to pester ABC? Geez...that woman (or man) needs to get a grip!
miloandjack
@Kateplusmy8 Ha..tweeties, lets petition @ABC 2get 2work on new show 4Kate! 2nites show #CelebrityWifeSwap was a HUGE success! :)
Just Down the Road that makes sense when you say it that way, but most languages are like that, English is actually the odd order, and mixing it up doesn't happen when English is your first language. My family is second generation Italian and no one does that. Not even the grandparent generation speaking it as their second language.
I had many friends from Lancaster and of Germany ancestry. I'm just saying I never heard anyone doing that. It's hard to believe after 38 years Kate hasn't fixed this issue.
Nevermind, I see my posts. Sorry admin!
You know, the more I hear about judges and what they do and don't want to be bothered with, the happier I am that I live where I do. This is a small county with a judge who WILL listen. He has stood up for what is right instead of what is convenient or demanded. He is VERY family oriented, with a special heart for children. Jon would have a very good chance in this place. The court calendar is not overly busy so there is more time for a hearing before the judge. Make this reason #1,394 I'm glad I moved here.
I didn't watch the show, so I'm just reading what others are saying about it.
The tree house is locked? Who the hell locks a tree house? So if the kids want to go play in the tree house they have to ask her for the key first? That's insane. Talk about controlling.
Watching Kate is like watching the movie "Groundhog". It's the same thing over and over. She really needs a new act. The single mom, it's all about the kids, poor me crap is DONE.
She locks the tree houses???
Really???
God forbid any child has privacy AWAY from their 7 other siblings (and their mom)!
ALL kids need privacy. If your property is so big, invest in a walkie talkie system for the kids. My neighbours and I use them all the time in the summer.
Jesus Christ woman! Let them be!
Hey Kate - You don't have permission to use that little tidbit in your next blog
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 27
I have never, in all my years of tree houses, heard of anyone thinking to LOCK THEM UP.
The.....HELL???
Again, the....hell?????!!!!!
February 26, 2013 at 7:29 PM
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My husband happened to catch that part, and he's as unbiased as they come. He said, "Who the hell locks up a tree house and locks away the key? Is she Mommy Dearest?"
My reply, "Why yes. Yes she is."
Glad I didn't waste my time on that drivel. Kate is Kate and she will never learn or change. From what the posters here have said with regard to CWS, I feel bad for the kids. At least they have Jon and hopefully he's doing the best that he can.
OT...On a happier note, my younger daughter had her ultrasound today and my grandson is getting a baby sister. WooHoo! He said he would still share his toys with her even though he wanted a brother. My daughter said she started giggling and couldn't stop. We're all thrilled.
Kate...You still suck big time as a mother. Now I'm off to HollywoodLife.com to see how bad you really look. Looking forward to your recap Admin. Good night all.
Fido, to me it's a double edged sword. On the one hand, I believe in limited government and it makes me nervous when judge starts to get really involved in a family's ins and outs and calling the shots and not just letting them sort it out among them. On the other hand, it's infuriating when a situation like this comes up and a judge is just like "whatever" as long as they are not turning up dead I'm good. It leaves people like Jon powerless to change what has become clear to me is a truly TERRIBLE course for these children. Will it kill them, nope, but I think they are growing up extremely unhappy. But, judges aren't supposed to get involved in crappy parenting. There is a very powerful recent case in L.A. about a MESSY divorce with parents fighting left and right, and the panel of judges goes off on how the law simply does not allow them to get involved in shoddy parenting (they actually used the word shoddy, it was great) and until it does, they're not touching this case.
There is another famous case here of a little boy Wyatt Garcia, in which a judge wouldn't get involved in what he thought were his mother's petty complaints about her ex (she had brought many complaints), and the father ended up killing the child. The judge was walking that fine line trying not to get too involved in something that looked like one big squabble versus trying to decide if the child was actually in danger. He made a call and it was the wrong one. But I get that he was trying not to play referee in one giant messy dispute.
You have to think of it from the perspective of a parent just trying to be a good mom, doing a decent job, and having the other parent trying to wreck havoc in the courts. You wouldn't want a judge to get involved, you would want them to get shot down and the judge to just leave you alone. It goes both ways.
I think the problem is, if we want to live in a society where government more or less stays out of your lives, we have to accept that most judges are not going to start playing referee to squabbles over things like filming unless they get out of control. I'm torn on the issue myself, since obviously, I really wish a judge would stop CWS and anything else.
Anyway, that's a very philosophical analysis of what's going on here, a sad one, but one I believe to be very true.
lukebandit said... 182
Oh my! They are having the meeting after the swap. kate is soooo jealous of Kendra having the Life of Riley!!! She threw Kendra under the bus, train and plane and basically told Kendra I do all that you did with 8 and you do nothing with 1! I thought Hank WAS GOING TO BLOW. He held back. She told Hankjr that she was going to take care of him and he told her you are not taking care of me! Way to go hank Jr!!! Did you see kate's demon face she had when Kendra told her that she wanted to go see the playhouse and she said yes, and they ran, and it was like freedom and kate was kinda smiling, but gave Kendra a demon stinky face look. kate is a cruel, demeaning stah wannbe! She is sooooo jealous of Kendra she couldn't stand it! Thought Ashley was there! She may have been but wasn't shown. That Deanna is just a joke. Deanna is an enabler of kate. Those kids work like mules, the boys looked disassociated. They look like they are so zombie and are just going through the motions. kate couldn't stand it that Hankjr went to preschool. Well kate, that is how they learn social skills and develop normally. She went over the line about her telling Kendra that she needed to do this and that. Kendra should of told her You work your children like mules! They are children! Not slaves! This would of been catastrophic for kate. Also, did you see the picture they used of Jon talking to the press and they BLURRED OUT HIS FACE! How dare her have that done! Of course she did! I hope Jon has some recourse about the show. Cant he sue ABC for using his kids without his permission? He does have joint custody!
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Good grief! What a horrible program.
And Kate was proud & eager to see THIS CRAP televised?
Stephen King can make a frightening novel using Kate and her kids as an example.
You know what the craziest part of that show was? How incredibly BORING it was. With Kendra and the kids, there wasn't any drama. With Kate, the closest thing was Hank Sr. prickling at her attitude. I have the feeling they cut out a lot of that! He did not like her. But then, who does?
Anyway, I found myself wandering off and not paying much attention.
Kate needs to think about this.
How can my kids have more fun with a stranger than they do with me?
English is actually the odd order, and mixing it up doesn't happen when English is your first language.
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It does here, where English is our first language. I think it may be that younger generations are so used to hearing English spoken by their parents and grandparents whose first language may have been Pennsylvania Dutch, and therefore the words and placement of words (in English) come out wrong. You should hang out at the farmer's market sometime! Even when English is the first language,the word orders often come out all ferhoodled! I often catch myself doing it, and I have to laugh.
We get too soon old, and too late smart, but it seems when it comes to communication skills, Kate isn't ever going to improve. One of the things that she could get rid of is that up-tone at the end of her sentences...making everything sound like it's a question.
How come I've never seen you type like that on the blog, Just down the road? Your English is perfect.
Even Kate types words awkwardly.
Kate's still blaming everything on editing:
DisneyKelsie
@Kateplusmy8 I have been a fan of yours since day one! Great show tonight, I just wish you hadn't rolled your eyes at Kendra. Missed you all
Kateplusmy8
@DisneyKelsie I can tell you that I did not in that spot.I promise! My faces were edited and placed at different spots! I love/support her!
Her faces were edited and just thrown in wherever? You just can't make this stuff up, can you?
She's glowing in all the praise, but one little criticism and the old editing excuse comes right up.
kateplusmy8
@JeanneKaye @deannatweeting heck to the yes! I would die without @deannatweeting !!! And she knows it :)
Exaggerate much, Kate?
Kateplusmy8
@DisneyKelsie I can tell you that I did not in that spot.I promise! My faces were edited and placed at different spots!
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Hahahahah! She sounds like a nut.
Look, this is what I mean about editing. She still rolled her eyes, didn't she? At SOMETHING. So, don't roll your eyes in the first place like a rude sixth grader and you'll never have to worry about someone edited your rolled eyes and placing it at different spots. Done.
On that note, if it's all terrible mean editing what good parent would subject their children to such a charade?
Well Kate had fun that's all the really matters to her.
She had drinks
She showed off her boobs
She went to a club.(didn't get her foot licked this time) But she had more drinks.
She played golf.
And she was in charge
And she got paid.
So all is well in Kate land.
Kate is a twit said... 51
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 53
Why does she have to lie so much?
I have never seen anyone lie so much in my 25 yrs of living.
God loves me.
My tv guide says CWS is supposed to be on right now but Anthony Bourdain *Nose to Tail* is on instead* LOL!! Divine intervention.
Deanna's no longer private on Twitter. This tweet's funny:
deannatweeting
@Kateplusmy8 @jeannekaye Aww I feel the same way! Kate is a very kind and living friend!
Walkie talkies.... they have them already. When the girls and kendra were out doing their switch with cleaning up the chicken coop, Mady asked if she could show Kendra her Tree House. Kendra at first appeared panicked that she was suppose to be keeping to the Schedule, that she was using a walkie talkie to radio someone she was sorry they were going to be late, but they were taking a little detour to the tree house.
I remember wondering who the heck she was radioing, but then remembered that Deanna was with the boys, and likely trying to keep kendra as close to schedule as she could while allowing the rules to be changed up.
I got the impression that Kendra only had so much leeway in changing up her rules. When they were at the games place, she again seemed panic that it was getting close to their bedtime.
Walkie talkies can provide younger kids some freedoms while ensuring their safety, however, I have a hard time believing that would be kate;s purpose for having those walkie talkies.
Tucker, I am interested in accents and have gotten pretty good pin pointing where you are from which is a fun talent. What I have noticed is that I have a hard time differentiating a eastern PA/Philly accent from a southern New Jersey accent. They sound the same to me. A western PA accent is totally different to me, sounds more like Ohio/Indiana/upstate NY. I am pretty good at the Northeast, can usually pin point what state and even what half. Take me down south and it all starts to sound the same. I haven't spent enough time there. And California accents sound "generic" to me even though I'm not from here. I have heard that's because so many people on TV are from CA and so our ear is trained to think that sounds "normal."
Oh also Tucker in edition to the long I's you notice I've also noticed she and Jon are very precise in their speaking, they pronounce every syllable very clearly. Nothing gets lost in the shuffle like it does where I am from. That is very much eastern PA. Sometimes, it comes across as pretentious, though certainly isn't meant to be. Now go to Boston and it's like what did you just mumble? :)
If you really want to read something heartbreaking, read her household manual. It is over on here:
http://abc.go.com/shows/celebrity-wife-swap
I didn't catch it that the Tree House was locked and kate kept the key in her bedroom. That is just sick. What a control freak! I think now the reason why kate gave her that look because Kendra found out that the TREE HOUSE WAS LOCKED and where the key was!
I wished that Kendra would of said, Why do you lock up their tree house? They are kids. Why would you do that?
Kendra, I think feels really bad for the kids. I wish she would speak up more for them!
I think it made kate mad that Hankjr. had a real plate, real fork, NO BIB at 3 and a half, when her kids were eating on prison issue plastic trays, can't serve theirselves from bowls from the table, and high chairs till they were 7 years old. Because it makes her look bad because she made the kids do it her way.
Did anyone see in the promo that kate had a glass of wine and she did a Cheers with it and Hankjr's sippy cup? It sure looked like it!
How come I've never seen you type like that on the blog, Just down the road? Your English is perfect.
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lol! Thanks...quite possibly because I have my degree in English, and I minored in journalism! However, when I speak, the PA Dutch influence does come in, and I have to laugh when I hear Kate's word placement because I know I'm guilty of doing the very same thing. Speaking and writing are two very different creatures.
We're having a thunderstorm! It's really making down wet out there!
I'm reading Kendra's Household Manual, and she names her two dogs, Rascall and Martini. I don't remember seeing the dogs while KK was there. Did I miss it?
It is all so predictable and incredibly sad. Ignoring Kate's stupidity in that throw Kendra under the bus routine (someone always MUST be thrown under a bus in Kateworld), and her twitter editing lies, what this show exposed is the absolutely horrible things that pass for life on he Kompound. A locked treehouse with the key in Mommy's locked bedroom? Depressed children, sad looks? Walky-talky scripting? The panic picnic and fear of messes? Could the KG lifestyle be exposed in a worse way. And this horrible excuse of a woman/mother will never, ever get it.
I read Kate's blog on abc and she acts like she's some super mom.
Please ever good mother does this stop complaining and looking for a pat on the back.
welcome to motherhood Kate.
This.
One of the ways I show my children love is by cooking for them. I love being in the kitchen and I'm actually finishing up my very own cookbook.
And this
With eight mouths to feed, I have to be very frugal. I'm always clipping coupons and try to be as cost effective as possible.
From her abc blog
(Huge eye roll from me)
SaraMRN2010 said... 71
If you really want to read something heartbreaking, read her household manual. It is over on here:
http://abc.go.com/shows/celebrity-wife-swap
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Thanks Sara. I printed it out and lined the birdcage with it.
For some reason, I can't get KK's household manual to open. Is anyone else having problems?
SaraMRN2010-Thanks for posting the link to the manual. A couple of excerpts:
"This is an all-organic household"
Well, the pic of her cleaning the fridge, definitely showed that to be a lie. Unless, it's changed since October.
"Please don't forget to flat iron all three of the little girls' hair each morning after breakfast! It's important that their hair is neat and presentable."
Flat iron their hair? I'm sure there is some other way to make their hair neat and presentable. How unruly could their hair be? Get it styled differently if that's a problem.
And she really puts down her kids a lot in that manual, saying how grumpy or unruly they can get.
And as usual, the manual reads like her bogs--how hard she has it.
That's not a manual for a household, that's a manual for an Army boot camp.
I watched Wife Swap tonight and two things stood out:
1. Kendra appears to be much more likeable than Kate;
2. The Gosselin kids looked absolutely unhappy and miserable - especially the boys.
This was another attempt at re-branding Kate Gosselin's image. Did anyone notice how Kate was so happy without her 8?
Kate will never pass up any chance to exploit the little Gosselin money makers.
leigh0615ann
@Kateplusmy8 You need to write a parenting book.
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Oh, brother! Maybe on what NOT to do as a parent.
Fleecing The Sheeple said... 76
leigh0615ann
@Kateplusmy8 You need to write a parenting book.
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Oh, brother! Maybe on what NOT to do as a parent.
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Or how to have 8 kids for your own personal gain.
I was reading Kendra's Household Manual, and she named her two dogs. I didn't see two dogs while KK was there. Did I miss it?
(I hope this isn't yet another repeat post!)
Just caught the tail end....every boy and several girls looked traumatized.
LOL there is a funny Netflix commercial where people are scrolling through movies on streaming trying to pick one and their friends will spoil it for them by saying "Oh that was a good one, they get off the island!" and other things to spoil the movie. The looks on the people's faces is priceless, so mad. Reminded me of the spoilers here and how upset people get. Funny how spoilers do that.
That sound you hear is the hammering of the last nail in Kate's 15 minutes, where to start? Firstly, this show brings new meaning to skimming the surface, but as the stone skipped across the surface of Kate's and Kendra's lives, Kendra still managed to look more real.
I was struck by the blank looks on all of Kate's kids faces, joyless, cold and without real emotion. Scheduled or not, they behaved like
automatons, just keeping their heads down to stay ahead of the next order. Sure, Kendra tried to break the routine, but it is too engrained in them to truly break out.
Kate looked gaunt, unhealthy and detached, nothing new there, just so with one child instead of eight. She did come across as less hard-edged, but her physical appearance is so strained, any attempt at softness is lost completely.
And, other than being Kate's cheerleader, what was the purpose of having Deanna there at all? Deanna didn't play any role whatsoever other than being the observer. If she was portrayed as a babysitter, she would have pitched in, right?
And, finally, Kate came off as judgemental, while Kendra was more interested in making observations. All in all, a crappy "reality" show that showed very little real moments. Oh, we did manage to learn that Mady wants to be an actress, perhaps a real moment, but an unlikely reality.
Remona Blue said... 77
For some reason, I can't get KK's household manual to open. Is anyone else having problems?
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Remona-rather than clicking on the title, click where it says "Go Now". It didn't open for me when I clicked on "Kate Gosselin's Household Manual", but it came up without any problems clicking on the "Go Now" link.
The scene that pissed me off the most was at the end when they were having their little meeting and Kendra was justifying her need to go out with her friends and she asked Kate, "didn't you go out with your friends in your 20's" and Kate started to cry like poor little me, I never ever got to do that. Well, bitch, the reason is because you were too busy engineering your master plan to get knocked up with all those kids so that you could get rich on their backs. She wanted them. And she got them. Ungrateful wretch. She makes me physically ill.
Thanks for all the comments from those who watched. Face off had some amazing werewolf alien makeups. As my favorite Face Off judge, Glenn Hetrick would say, sounds like cws ” punched you in the face with how bad it sucked.”
Funniest thing to me, when I got or of my meeting this evening, I had a text from older dd, who was a fanatical Ms Kreider fan when J&K first came on. She got bored with it as it became a travel show and Ms Kreider got meaner to Jon.
Anyway, dd texts ” Kate Gosselin is on celebrity wife swap!” I texted back ” she isn't a wife, why is she on that show”. Dd texted back ” because she's a fame whore”. I next asked her if the show was any good, and she said she only looked at five minutes, ” it was a train wreck”, she got bored and changed the channel. Ms Kreider is so 2009 and boring.
Whoever said that CWS would be Sarah Palin II certainly got that right!
Another tweet of Kate's tonight that I found disturbing. Someone tweet her that Hannah stepping on the taco was her favorite moment. Kate replied:
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8
@kaityinmon I died laughing when the foot came down on the taco! Too funny!
I didn't think there was anything funny about it, especially the way Hannah looked so pleased with herself for doing it. I'm sure if it was Kate's dinner that Hannah stepped on it would be a totally different story.
Say whatever you want about Kendra and who/how she is.
She teared up when talking about badly those poor kids are treated.
Says everything in my book!
Wouldn't it be ironic if it was Kendra who was able to effect a change for those kids. If it was Kendra & Hank who called CPS on Kate. Or gave Jon the money to fight Kate for custody.
Kate is a Twit that sure says a lot about her crappy parenting and absurd favoritism that she thinks it's just so darn hysterical that another child's meal is ruined and that she thinks it's the disrespectful, rude and uncouth child who is the funny one here.
After reading Kate's household manual, it's easy to understand why nannies and cleaning people keep bailing on her.
Say what? From Kate's E!online interview: "...You can talk, talk, talk and to walk in my door and actually try that on and wear it, gosh, that's going to have to be a brave person."
She really is inarticulate. She does not have the "gift of gab".
Auntie Anne, um, I swear I told my tivo to record CWS and I just went looking for it and it's not there. I think God loves me too!!!
Seriously, I screwed this up, I'm supposed to do a recap. Oops. I assume ABC or Hulu will have it tomorrow or there might not be a recap.
The scene that pissed me off the most was at the end when they were having their little meeting and Kendra was justifying her need to go out with her friends and she asked Kate, "didn't you go out with your friends in your 20's" and Kate started to cry like poor little me, I never ever got to do that. Well, bitch, the reason is because you were too busy engineering your master plan to get knocked up with all those kids so that you could get rich on their backs. She wanted them. And she got them. Ungrateful wretch. She makes me physically ill.
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Oh that ticks me off too.
It's not like she got knocked up because she was raped! Birth control. Use some. Then if you are not ready for kids yet you can enjoy your 20's. She WANTED to get pregnant! What did you THINK was going to happen to your 20's?
I'm sorry but I don't have a single ounce of sympathy for that. The year was 2000. She could choose between kids or her 20's. As Abby would say, save your tears for the pillow.
On another note, there are many ways to have a social life, within reason, while still having kids. Way to blame your kids for having no friends.
I found the fact that she mentioned in her manual "It's the boys' job to clean the bathrooms since they're the ones who usually mess them up." Didn't we hear this same thing from her on J&k+8?
Reminds@78 click where it says "go now"
Here is the direct link to Kate's Manual in case you are having problems opening it.
http://abc.go.com/shows/celebrity-wife-swap/kate-gosselin-manual
After reading it, I feel even more sorry for those kids.
Kate also says " I don't have any full-time help because people tend to get overwhelmed and stressed out" and "I have very little help around the house and with the kids and I try to do it all myself. I've lost track of how many babysitters can't handle the stress."
Does Kate ever think that SHE is the cause of all the stress? If that's her manual just for the show, I can imagine what she would give to a housekeeper or a babysitter. Just reading it is stressful.
I'm not up to date on all the comments, but want to comment on some of the responses to my post about the nude photo. My understanding is that it was a Playboy photo. I am far from a prude. In general, I think that it is up to parents about how they deal with nudity in the family--similar to discipline. I don't personally have a problem with Kendra showering with her 3 year old son. As Admin (I think) said, there is a difference between nudity and an erotic image of your mother. Those types of graphic images tend to stay with kids and can be quite traumatic. I think that it was careless of them to have in on display where Hank could see it. I like children to have childhoods--habituating a child to those types of images sexualizes the child and will carry into their future relationships in unforeseen ways. And, BTW, the publicizing of Hank's exposure is exploitation.
I've lost track of how many babysitters can't handle the stress."
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Bullsh&t. If you are kind, fair and to your nanny, your nanny stays. Stop blaming it on everything else but yourself.
I worked for a family who had been through two nannies. Two. I was their second nanny, their oldest was 12 at the time, and in 12 years, they had had the SAME WOMAN. And, she didn't even quit, they just needed someone to fill in the gaps for the hours she couldn't manage. She is still with them, to this day, wrapping things up with the baby who is no baby anymore :-(. I also worked for a family who had been through dozens and dozens, too many to count, so many the kids couldn't even name them all.
I know which family knew how to treat the hired help right. Hint, not the one who had been through dozens.
Ex Nurse exactly. I don't see anything wrong with nudity in and of itself. Not what I choose to do, but whatever floats your boat. But I do see something wrong with exposing young children to erotica. And in fact, you could find yourself arrested for it.
There is actually a case in L.A. that just came out this summer about a man who likes to walk around his house nude and they tried to get him for sex abuse. He has a teenage son. The court said nope, it's not sex abuse, and overturned the lower judge and dismissed it. But, they were very clear if he had done anything erotic or made any kind of inappropriate advances or gestures around his son that would be a totally different story. They said look, this is weird and not my cup of tea, but there's nothing wrong with it exactly. Makes perfect sense to me.
I'm really annoyed that I can't open the link to KK's Household Manual!! So...the boys have to take care of the 50 chickens? And the boys have to clean the bathrooms because they are the ones that usually mess them up? The boys have to do the 'dirty' jobs, the girls the other jobs, and KK's job is to intimidate them all while she barks orders the way she did to Jon? She has the gall to bad mouth those boys every chance she gets! She makes it so clear in so many ways that she doesn't like them, much less love them!! I don't know why I want to read that manual, since I know it will infuriate me!
Remona she admits they have FIVE bathrooms and that each bedroom has their own bathroom. How about this. How about the boys only use the boys bathroom off their room and the boys clean their OWN? And how about the girls clean THEIR bathroom? ANd Kate cleans hers. And they rotate whatever guest bathrooms they have.
So, because the boys are messy in their bathroom they have to clean them all??? B.S. How about do something FAIR for a change and everyone clean their own? Infuriating.
Remona-I posted the direct link to Kate's manual in my comment #99. You can also click on "Go Now" instead of the title.
I think the bathroom injustice is a perfect example of why its' a virtual certainty these kids are going to realize if they don't already, very soon, how f-ed up their lives are.
Most kids at this age or very shortly are going to say, wait a f-ing minute here. We each have our own bathrooms. Why don't we each clean OUR OWN? Why do I have to clean some other person's nasty bathroom I never even use? And they would be RIGHT. There's going to be rebelling and it's going to be bad.
She also goes on and on about how she can't give them any choices because it will be chaos. Yeah, not only is that selfish and awful since kids need to learn how to handle choices, but it's going to backfire so badly on her she won't know what hit her. It's going to be so bad. They are going to be so desperate to have some control in their lives God knows what could happen--sex and drugs though are sadly likely options.
I didn't watch the View...and I didn't watch CWS. We knew what this was going to be.And according to everyone here it was just that.Kendra losing her mind while Kate was like wtf? What do I do with all this free time?
Kate is the be all and end all while Kendra does nothing.I refused to give this bitch any attention.I don't know why so many here just had to watch. But each to their own I guess. I hate (yes hate) the woman and didn't have a problem not watching....anyway...
Titanic chair lady.... Yes Kendra got her fame for sexing Hef. Like many b4 her having sex with Hef opened doors for you.No...I don't approve.As for Kendra's "sex tape". Kendra at 18 had sex with her bf and they taped it.It was to be between them two. Many couples do this. 5 years later ...after Hef and GND, the old ex-boyfriend trying to cash in on Kendra's fame....tried to sell the tape. Vviidd (sp) let Kendra know it was coming out one way or the other...they offered her a deal and she took it.Yes she made money off it.WHY NOT? This was not intended to make her money when they made the tape....she was backed into a corner and did what was best for her at the time. Kendra was/is not a porn star.She does NOT have sex with men intending to make money.
I'm kinda pissed I have to defend her.
BUT!!! Kendra is true to who she is....she does not lie about what she has done. Kendra loves her son and husband.She does not involve Lil Hank in her "sexy" business . She does NOT rely on her child to get her work.She does NOT get work ONLY because of her son.
I really don't think I'd have an issue with leaving my kids while Kendra doing an CWS. I would have an issue leaving my kids with kate.Kate is the one who abuses children.Kate is the one only looking out for herself.I'm pretty sure Kendra was not showing the Gosselin 8 nude pictures of herself or making them watch re-runs of the GND. I'm sure the Gosselin 8 have seen more immoral and scantly dressed pictures featuring their mother. Like Kate says...they kids never surf the web...they had no idea who the hell Kendra was or what she has done.All they knew was that Kendra gave them some attention....Kendra gave a shit.
So No...I don't think Kendra is a role model...but she does love her husband and son...and she does/can separate that from her family life.
Kate on the other hand has nothing.She is nothing without the kids.Kate is a Child and animal abuser.I believe she has come full circle.When we can stop watching her twitter...her blog...her anything...she will go away once and for all.
Sorry so long....but I just don't understand why....other than her 6 fans watch her shit. Lies lies Lies and more Lies. Same shit different day.Stop giving her the attention she so craves.
Kate is a twit said... 99
Thank you for the direct link to the manual. As I thought, reading it made me furious. She really does treat those kids as slaves, doesn't she? Reading her manual explains the blank looks on the children's faces I saw during the CWS. I wonder how many beatings they had to take before she convinced them that keeping their mouths shut and doing their ''chores'' while with KK was the only way to survive.
I'm so grateful to hear from ?? (sorry I can't remember the name) of the woman that knows the children and has seen with her own two eyes that they are allowed to be 'normal' with Jon. Thank goodness they, especially the boys, spend a lot of time with Jon.
Wow.
That How I Run The Prison manual of khate's is something else.
She encourages their dreams but she allows them no choices, not even mundane things like where to sit or what to eat?
There is one word to describe her. It starts with a "C" and rhymes with punt. Which is what I'd like to do to her surgically enhanced ass.
Maybe Kendra can play Kate in a movie based on Hoffman's book. And, did Kate share her secret weapon, the big red wooden spoon? Isn't that the secret to getting the kids to "co-operate"?
And what is this BS, " Deanna, my best friend who knows how to do everything just like I do......."
Deanna, my flavor of the month best friend. The one I haven't run off yet.
The one with the same name as the young chick my husband was banging.............
Admin - I just found it on another channel. Here's a recap...Kate's gets a paid vacay and the kids keep working...what else is new?
Kate’s pissed that Kendra has the good life that Kate thinks is owed to *her*. Kendra was deeply disturbed that the kids aren’t being allowed to be kids, but are instead made to live in a prison camp.
Kendra seemed like a genuinely nice person….Kate, uh, not so much. 100% bitch actually.
All Kate did was bitch. Kendra tried hard to make it fun for the kids. All Kate cared about was that lil Hank knew who was in charge, and it wasn’t him or his dad. All she cared about was that everybody knew that *she* was in charge. I wonder why that was so important to her.
All Kate did was bitch about Kendra, lil Hank, big Hank, and roll her eyes about *everything*.
Kate said that she *likes* being the cook, the nanny, and the housekeeper. But those activities clearly give her no pleasure. So why does she want to do them?
Kendra cared about the kids. When she teared up when talking about how badly the kids are treated….that did it for me.
She can be as sl*tty as she wants, you can tell she has a good heart.
I bet Kendra never beat her kid, or was mean to the dog.
Kendra biggest concern was how she could show love to each individual child. That there wasn’t going to be enough of her to go around.
The kids actually seemed sad to see Kendra leave.
Why the heck was Kendra made to go grocery shopping and do laundry? Kate doesn’t do her own grocery shopping. Or the laundry.
Of course the kids wanted to film. Who wouldn’t say yes to filming if they were told, “We have to do this to earn money. If we don’t film this we’ll lose the house!”
The Gosselin kids looked traumatized…much like zombies. The only time you saw all of them smiling and laughing was when Kendra took them to the fun house. Funny….there was Kendra driving bumper cars along with the kids, and laughing with them.
Never saw Kate laugh or be happy the entire time she was at Kendra’s house. The only time she laughed was when she was out drinking with Kendra's friends.
All you saw Kate doing was badgering little Hank. She couldn’t just sit down and enjoy him. Everything he did was *wrong* and needed to be corrected and/or judged.
OMG! I can NOT believe that Kate is still using divided trays and doling out the food in portions.
After being obnoxious with Hank out on the patio, she then turns all flirty with him, asking him if he’d like some wine. She sure seemed to drink a lot. And that was some pretty flirty body language when she asked him about the wine. It was like, yeah, I was obnoxious before...here you wanna look down my shirt?
When the tacos got spilled, the one girl sextuplet looked like she might have a coronary. Sad.
Girls chores versus boys’ chores. Notice how any icky chores are defined as boy chores. Less icky chores = girl chores.
When it came time for the new rules, Kendra had 2 or 3. Kate had pages upon pages. Control freak much?
Why did the sextuplets carry around small stuffed animals when meeting Kendra, and later also. Looked like they were using them as comfort items. Kinda old for that, aren’t they?
I think Kate is jealous as hell that Hank does so much around the house. And why shouldn’t he, if Kendra is out working and he’s not. And she’s jealous as h*ll that Kendra has a house-keeper and nanny. All things Kate thinks she is owed.
What’s Kate mean that she gets no adult contact? What about Deanna, the running “girls”, the Target “girls”, Steve, the multitude of household help, the tanning salon, the hair salon, the lawn “boys”. Oh. Maybe it’s because she doesn’t see the adults in her life as other adults. She sees them as the lawn “boys”. Not worthy of respect.
I loved the round table meeting at the end. Hank and Kendra sat there gazing at Kate, knowing that they’re contented with their lives. And with the most WTF? looks on their faces. Their looks and body language said it all. They were thinking, “Loser”.
Kendra listened respectfully to Kate. Kate gave Hank the death look and rolled her eyes at Kendra.
Like Kate says...they kids never surf the web...they had no idea who the hell Kendra was or what she has done.
Not entirely true. While the kids might not know everything Kendra's done, on the episode, Mady said that she knew that Kendra had a show, and that Mady sometimes snuck down to the basement to watch it.
Kate is a twit said... 99
Thank you for the direct link to the manual. As I thought, reading it made me furious. She really does treat those kids as slaves, doesn't she? Reading her manual explains the blank looks on the children's faces I saw during the CWS. I wonder how many beatings they had to take before she convinced them that keeping their mouths shut and doing their ''chores'' while with KK was the only way to survive.
I'm so grateful to hear from ?? (sorry I can't remember the name) of the woman that knows the children and has seen with her own two eyes that they are allowed to be 'normal' with Jon. Thank goodness they, especially the boys, spend a lot of time with Jon.
I agree Admin...about the kids getting no choice.When the time comes...they are going to revolt 8 fold. They have never had a choice or a voice.They are non issues to Kate. They are governed by fear. Well the time for that is coming up.
The boys are shit. They clean up shit....the bathrooms...the chicken coop..the dog poop in the yard.
I can't give the kid's any choices says Kate...it would be chaos?
No Kate...once all the kid's figure this out...you will be done!
No kate...keep the kids begging for food and attention is the way to go.The kid's are starving for attention,in more ways than one.
They know this...and when given the opportunity....they will sell you'r ass faster than diharrea.You taught them well.
Way does matter where they sit???? I understand not wanting to run a short order restaurant but why can't they help with decisions in planning the meals like sitting down on a weekend and having some input on the menus for the week? I don't see anything chaotic about that.
Yes, another post. people here said Kate said she didn't need Jon's permission to make the kids work. This tell's me alot. As much as Jon does not want the kid's filmed,he has no say. For some reason Kate got everything...the house,the land, the right to make money off the kid's when she can sell them for work...ect ect.
As for Kate saying Hank does everything? Really? Isn't this what Kate had?Jon got up with the kids before work...dressed them and served Kate coffee in bed....she refused to get up b4 8am...Jon went to work...Kate put the kid's down at 11am and expected them to sleep til 3 or so? So kate had to deal with the kid's a whole 3 hours a day? Then Jon came home from work...he talked to and played with the kids while kate made dinner? Jon served the kids thier dinner on paper plates....while Kate hid behind the counter barking orders...Then Jon bathed the kids and put them to bed while kate washed the pan she cooked dinner in...
Yeah Kate...I wish I had your life. You want to say...welll you did say..I wish I had a Hank....You DID! You lost him b/c you suck!
Get over yourself!!! You are the one who has NO clue.
Credit:http://abc.go.com/shows/celebrity-wife-swap/kate-gosselin-manual
Mady and Cara. They don't spend a lot of time watching television and don't do video games.
Ummm!!!!! EXCUSE ME!!!! What about the games she always say they are playing with her. I'm sure they didn't learn to play them a new along with her. There is a lie there.
I'm not asking anyone to specifically do this but I think it would be fun to go through her home rule book and copy and counter copy the lies and that which we know is documented lies to prove it. Not that it needs proof. We all know it exists.
I would do it but my slight dyslexia makes it a long process to accomplish writing fast. No cop out, just truth. If no one wants to then it remains rhetorical. No loss. lol
localyocul said... 196
Deanna is a brainwashed dingbat.
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I think that is possible. She is young and not as experienced and street smart as Jamie. It took Ashley 5yrs to get sick of Kate. I guess being young gives you more patience. Humm..did I spell that right? Silly me. lol
Starz...117
Yeah Kate...I wish I had your life.
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Ah oh Starz, you left yourself open for the jealously accusation. lol Just kidding. For real.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 107
Remona she admits they have FIVE bathrooms and that each bedroom has their own bathroom. How about this. How about the boys only use the boys bathroom off their room and the boys clean their OWN? And how about the girls clean THEIR bathroom? ANd Kate cleans hers. And they rotate whatever guest bathrooms they have
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Because that would be a normal, healthy way to approach teaching responsibility. As kids we rotated chores by the week. They were things like set/clear table, wash (in a sink) the dishes, bathrooms, garbage duty, dog duty. There were three girls and two boys and we all rotated all of it. And we laughed and had fun at dinnertime. And we sat wherever we wanted to except the heads which were for mom and dad.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 99
Auntie Anne, um, I swear I told my tivo to record CWS and I just went looking for it and it's not there. I think God loves me too!!!
Seriously, I screwed this up, I'm supposed to do a recap. Oops. I assume ABC or Hulu will have it tomorrow or there might not be a recap
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Do you have On Demand? Comcast here has most shows the next day available On Demand
Remona Blue,
Yes, I saw one of Kendra's dogs walking out of the living room in one of the scenes. It looked like some kind of terrier (colored like a Jack Russell - I only saw it from the back).
Here's an excert from Kendra's manual regarding her parenting of Hank:
IMHO Kendra is a MUCH better parent.
OUR KIDS
"Little Hank needs a lot of attention, but not too much. Even though he's only two- and-a-half, we like to include him in all our decisions. If we want to go out on a date ,we ask his permission -- but he always says yes.
He is a great little human being. We try to teach him to be respectful, but he's still young. Every once in a while, he will throw a bit of a tantrum and can be shy from time to time -- but overall, he is an angel. "
"We've tried to raise Little Hank to be able to figure things out on his own. He can pick out his own clothes and is very self-sufficient. He knows what he wants and what he doesn't want. When he wants something, he'll ask -- in his own way. "
DISCIPLINE
"We don't really have any rules for Little Hank, for the most part he's well-behaved. Our only rule is that he cannot be a bully -- no matter what. "
From Kate's household manual:
I don't give my kids a lot of everyday choices, such as seating arrangements or individual meal choices because those types of choices cause fiascos and time consuming drama. However, it is important to me that each child get to develop their own individuality, passions and live their own dreams. For now though, it works best in our home to minimize little choices in order to avoid chaos.
For now though It's obvious that she's not giving the kids choices now -- they can't handle making decisions. They melt down when confronted with choices as simple as what to put on a taco or where to sit. Exactly when and where does Kate plan for them to get the opportunity to make choices and learn from mistakes? She controls everything about their lives, from teeth brushing times and places to meal choices and amounts, to seats on the school bus. Kate's running the household to suit herself, not to raise (especially the sextuplets) individuals.
Glaringly absent from the "Social Life" part of the manual was any mention of the kids. More proof that they don't have any.
The show itself was bad enough in pointing out the rigid and militaristic environment the kids are living in, but reading the manual is heartbreaking. It's no wonder Kendra cried while talking about the kids having no childhoods because they're always working.
I did see that they'd blurred out Jon's face, but I had a different reaction than you. I thought that the blurring of Jon's face was yet more confirmation that Jon REALLY objected to KK doing CWS. He was so disapproving that he wouldn't allow his face to be shown on the episode. I did a ''KK smirk'' and thought good for you, Jon...make it too obvious to miss!!
Remona Blue,
I agree with you! For Jon's face to be blurred out means he didn't give permission - for even his face to be shown. Complete disapproval, imo.
I would be embarrassed to be on Celebrity Wife Swap if I wasn't a wife, but Kate saw being on TV and a paid vacation and probably didn't care if they called it the "This Makes No Sense Show." She has no shame.
Her manual is AWFUL. It's exhausting just to read. The sheer amount of control she exerts over those kids is toxic and completely unnecessary. And I noticed the boys, too. Did they ever even utter a word? The boy who wears glasses looked so checked out, it worried me. Totally flat affect in all of them. In fact, most of the kids (except the one twin) seemed off. Kendra was a good sport, tried really hard, but Kate's way of living is something only a true narcissistic control freak with no regard for the kids can really pull off.
The fact that she doesn't let the kids have any choices whatsoever (to make HER life easier) is no surprise, but daaaaaaamn, she's going to watch that blow up in her face nuclear-style over the next ten years. Have fun with that, Kate. As soon as she senses she can no longer totally control them (I hope every boy is bigger than her eventually), she'll ship them off to Jon.
According to Kate's manual that house has 5 bedrooms with a bathroom attached to each. Why on god's green earth would the kids be brushing their teeth in the kitchen? I mean my god they can't even have the freedom to brush their teeth without the slave-master standing guard over that too.
I didn't watch last night but have read a few recaps. I find it totally disgusted that those poor kids have chores to do after dinner when they have already had such a long day and I'm sure homework to do. Not that there is anything wrong with chores but there lazy ass mother who has no job has probably done nothing all day. As I have posted before I am one of nine children so I understand the dynamics first hand of a large family. My parents didn't run our house like boot camp and she wasn't doing endless chores and errands all day and falling in to bed. Kate is such a liar and drama queen it amazes me that anyone believes all her crap. Oh and did you know she has 8 kids?
I loved Kendra serving them cereal for breakfast - in styrofoam bowls! Nothing wrong with cereal - or styrofoam, but I don't believe Kate's BS about running the dishwashers so many times a day when I'm sure she still uses paper and foam herself.
Just saw the last 5 minutes of the episode last night. So that was Deeanna with Kate at the end? Gosh, she does not look anything like I imagined. I expected a makeup artist to look more glamorous. I don't mean to be critical, but she is a pretty plain Jane. At least that is how she looked at the end of the show. Kate looked really rough too. Kate is probably clutching her phone waiting for the tv offers to come rolling in this morning.
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If you really want to read something heartbreaking, read her household manual. It is over on here:
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In the picture with this article, I noticed that Collin is now the shortest boy. Wasn't he always the tallest? He was pudgy for a while, and now is thin. Wonder if her cutting back on his calories also affected his growth? Also, for the life of me, I can not see Kate's legs or feet in this picture, no matter how much I enlarge it.
Why the hell is she flat ironing the girls' hair? They all have straight hair. The youngest girls are eight! If you want them to look presentable, pull their hair back in either a headband, barrette, braid or ponytail, or some up/some down. It's a hell of alot quicker than flat ironing five heads. And she wonders why she doesn't have enough time. Or she has the babysitter do that every morning. What a complete and utter asshole she truly is. From the sounds of things, this show made her look even worse than we know she already is. Those poor kids.
How do you find out what the numbers were for the viewers? Anybody know.
Starz22...117 Applause.
KK bitched because Hank Jr. doesn't use a fork at 2 1/2? IIRC, when KKs kids were 2 1/2, they were still mostly using their hands to eat with. Hypocrit much, KK?
If she won't allow the kids to make any choices, how does she expect them to learn how to make decisions for themselves? Recipe for MAJOR disaster there, KK. What's so chaotic and difficult about saying "Do you want to wear the red top or the blue top this morning?" or saying you can have corn flakes or cheerios for breakfast, or making 3 veggies instead of 2 for dinner and the kids pick which ones they want to eat? Leftovers? Put them in one of those 5 freezers and pull them out again in a few days. One of the things that impressed me when "Table For Twelve" was airing was the choice Betty Hayes gave her kids for lunch. There were 2 sandwich choices and each kid said which they wanted. No chaos, just orderly and controlled (or as controlled as 10 kids can be), and "please" and "thank you" from BOTH parents and kids.
So, those of you who watched the crapfest -- any cameo appearances by Shoka?
Admin, just wondering and don't know if you could share any insight or speculation - the fact that the children were filmed and their father was not asked for approval - could this be something the judge overseeing custody arrangements would look upon negatively? Or could the court take some action if asked to make sure a share of money earned from the filming goes into trust for the children?
Just wondering.
I didn't see the show except the meeting at the end. Why was Kate dressed like she was going to a wedding and Kendra looked so normal - jeans, sweater, hair in ponytail?
I read "Kate's Household Manual" and am very confused as to what Kate actually does during the nine hours the kids are gone all day. She made a huge deal about not missing the bus because it's a 45 minute drive. So basically it's okay for the kids to be on the road 90 minutes a day, but not Kate if they occasionally miss the bus.
On the clip I saw, Kate said she "supervises" grocery shopping, errands and laundry. In the manual, she says she spends her day with shopping, errands and laundry. Huh? "Supervising" takes all day!
In the manual, she says Deanna is her BFF. Guess Jamie has slid down a few notches on the Kate ladder. I'm sure Kate didn't appreciate Jamie's honest comments on the RV trip and post-trip interview. Jamie is still good enough to come clean the stovehood, but she will not warrant further TV time as BFF.
I HATE how she still calls the 8 year olds "the littles" in the manual. Seems degrading to me. Littles aren't doing the chores those kids do. Reading the manual, it's clear she won't let the boys live with Jon because they do all the nasty labor at Gosselin Manor. And I find it so sad that "the littles" get a whopping 1/2 per day of play time "if they don't have homework". What a life!
How in the world is she saving money on bread if she's on her third top of the line breadmaker?
How are they "all organic" with what the refrigerator picture revealed?
And again, what does Kate do all day besides cook breakfast and dinner? The kids do lunches, loading and unloading dishwashers, taking care of dog, cleaning bathrooms, cleaning tables and floors, etc.
Seriously, those kids are gone for nine hours per day. Imagine having 45 kid free hours per week and complaining about how hard you have it. SHE HAS NO JOB, other than checking emails per her manual. Gotta reel in those freebies!
Her lack of social life is solely due to the fact that she has no friends to do anything with, not because she has eight kids.
I'm at a loss just from reading the manual.
Talk about selective memory. Hank does too much for and is enabling Kendra, what the hell did she think Jon was doing all those years with her? E N A B L I N G! He did everything for the kids before he went to work and she got up in the am and from the minute he got home at night. And during her time alone with the tups she had them in bed for four hours. And Kendra doesn't spend enough time with little Hank? This from she who traveled how many days a month when her kids were little? Guess she let it slip HOW many times that her dynamic personality has drawn no takers of the male persuasion constantly asking if Hank could be cloned or had an identical twin brother. And how does she do it all herself, everything for the kids, cleaning, laundry, chickens, etc., when the girls make lunches, the boys do the chickens, the kids do pretty much of the cleaning, put their laundry in the PROPER sorting bins (oh, yeah, she has to lift them in and out of the washer/dryer). She has absolutely NO COMPREHENSION OF ANYTHING! UGH!!!
The idea of locking your kids' tree house is just crazy. What, they are not allowed up there unless their mother unlocks the door? Who does that to their kids? Of course, we know the answer. None other than the control-freak herself. Did anyone see the "crooked houses?" I can't believe Kate sprung the money to build a treehouse. It was probably a gift from somebody. I hope she is "circling the drain" just a little faster after CWS. The kids are her only claim to fame. I don't care how many times she writes "NY times best sellers." I really want to call her the B-word, so better quit now. Kendra is still more likeable.
Mady saying she sneaks down to the basement to watch Kendra's show is probably just the tip of the ice berg of what those kids will be sneaking around doing. When they are that oppressed, controlled, given no choices, etc., they really have no other option than to "sneak around." Mark my words, these kids are going to get "the hell out of Dodge" as soon as they can, and because they are not given the opportunity to make choices or to make mistakes and learn from them, some of these kids will go crazy w/ their new found freedom and will have some serious consequences. Kate will have no one to blame but herself because she is already teaching them to lie and sneak as evidenced by not telling their father about the filming.
I just tried to watch this online. I could not even get through the intro with blabbering about how she's a "NY Best Sellers" author. Actually, I got as far as her introducing Deanna and that was it. I couldn't take Kate's mouth, her attitude or her face. Ugh. If Admin does a recap I will read it but I can't sit through the show (online).
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 185
It's not about being naked. It's about a sexual pose. Even in Europe kids are not exposed to sexual things until they are old enough. In no first world country am I aware of three year olds being exposed to sexual things in a manner that is appropriate.
Even if you can argue it's not harmful, it's a societal norm and I question people who are so hellbent on defying societal norms, makes you wonder what other laws and rules they are willing to break. If she likes it so much she can move lol.
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You would not be practicing law today if others before you had not broken society norms. African Americans would still be drinking out of separate fountains, riding in the back of the bus, etc. if others hadn't broken societal norms (and laws), etc., etc.
Just because something is a "societal norm" doesn't make it right. Societies progress because people challenge norms and norms are redefined. Unless you are a white male born into $, you have benefited personally from those non-conformist trailblazers.
My DVR should have the show. I am out and busy. I thought I would watch, but after reading here, I am not sure. The reports of blank, robot children and checked out boys hurts my heart.
I really wish someone with authority could shake up her smug world.
I admit to watching 15 min. I was not surprised to see those dead eyes and smug way of dealing with people- triumphant she made lil Hank pick up his toys and sit at the table. Kendra was seen as a chicken with her head cut off, but kind and trying to please the kids. Mady was polite but I sensed the superior attitude in her except when she was sad about the locked treehouse. You can tell there's a child bursting to come forth but locked away just as much as Kate locks doors. The other kids seemed rude, floundering without their routine and yet craving love and attention. Cara looked definitely uncomfortable. They are all at an awkward age and although Mady says she wants to be an actress, the kids seem just as we feared, beaten down and robotized.
Little Hank is the most adorable child. He is young, and has two loving parents and nanny Rosa- Kendra does have a privileged life and I agree he should not be in school so much, but he is ok- still learning table manners etc and seems on par with many kids.Better than the shrieking howling G kids- not their fault- but without their rules they don't know how to behave at all.
Just because something is a "societal norm" doesn't make it right.
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True, but I don't see what is right about exposing a TWO YEAR OLD to sexually explicit photos. In fact study after study has shown sexualized children present with a whole host of psychological problems. Sometimes, things are a norm for a reason.
I never saw a study that said that if you make African Americans equal it gives them psychological problems.
The way Kate commented on Hank doing everything and Kendra doing nothing…that sounds like jealousy and unhappiness. She wants that but she got rid of Jon, didn’t she? I have no problem with Hank doing all if he is actually comfortable being the houseman vs. Kendra being the housewife. This is America, a free country we live in. Kate has no right to diss Kendra like that and telling her she should think and live like Kate. So what if Hank spoils Kendra. Is that wrong? No. Kate’s methods are way more worse and induce stress so who wants to live like that, really? Telling Kendra, ‘You do nothing, wah wah wah.’ What a baby.
The difference is the way Kendra and Hank treat each other. Kendra does not belittle, mock, or bark orders at Hank. Hank and Kendra actually RESPECT each other! No one is getting their feelings hurt in that household. They are genuinely happy. That is the big difference! Why doesn’t Kate get that? Jon did the exact thing and she kicked him out anyway. It was never enough for her and never will be. I think it will be like this for as long as the children are living with her.
I really think Kate thinks up of ways to make the housework 10 times harder than it really needs to be. Like that time TLC was putting up the blinds—they still had to clean up afterwards anyway so what was the point of putting that hose up to the drill? You still got to clean whatever the hose missed. That was so lame. She didn’t have to do it but she can because TLC gave her the means to do it. I wonder if she personally enjoys giving everyone a hard time?
I was pleased to hear that Kate is jealous of how well round Hank Jr is. Kendra has nurtured him very well and has him on the right track—putting him in preschool, eating off regular plates, expressing his feelings, etc. He knew who Mommy was and told Kate so. He UNDERSTOOD what it meant..he knew the words! That tells a lot. It also just proves that infanizing children through 6-7 years old is not successful. Hank Jr can verbalize for himself much much more than the tups could at that age. Kinda telling, isn’t it?
I am also sorry how upright and rigid the children has became in abiding by Kate’s rules. It was ridiculous hearing that Kate had every minute written down on paper; how exact she is with the schedule. No choices? How do you expect the children to learn how to adapt in a situation (I’m thinking the classroom where the teacher may give them problems/exercises to solve on their own)—do they have to wait for Kate to tell them what to do? I bet if someone asked them what their favorite color is; they wouldn’t be able to answer it because they do not know the answer themselves. It’s only Kate’s way or the highway. Kate chooses their clothes, food, ideas, seating selection, how to eat, EVERYTHING. They have no freedom. I feel sorry for them.
So what if Hank spoils Kendra. Is that wrong? No.
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Not only that but like we said, Kendra works. Kendra supports the family. She in fact has a FULL TIME SERIES as we speak and probably has to get up at 4am every day to make it there in time for hair and makeup. It's not like Kendra doesn't contribute to the family and is just sitting around being a princess. Hank may hold down the home front and pamper her but in return she brings in some steady income for the family. Give and take, fairness, mutuality.
Just as a stay at home mom might make sure their hard working husband has dinner and the newspaper ready when he gets home, what's the big freaking deal about Hank doing the same for his woman? Geez, I would call this a fair marriage myself. Is Hank still playing sports? Even if he is he's probably often in the off season and has more time to take care of things around the house, including his wife.
I just find it very very sad to hear that Kate makes such a big deal about what frankly, sounds like a healthy and fair relationship to me.
The fact that she doesn't let the kids have any choices whatsoever (to make HER life easier) is no surprise, but daaaaaaamn, she's going to watch that blow up in her face nuclear-style over the next ten years. Have fun with that, Kate. As soon as she senses she can no longer totally control them (I hope every boy is bigger than her eventually), she'll ship them off to Jon.
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My comment just went poof!
When they are teens the only way she would be able to discipline them is to withhold privileges. And they don't have any! Can't you hear it: "Make me". "Then no phone for a week." "So? I can't do anything with it." "You're grounded!" "So, we're not allowed to do anything."
It kills me that she treats the older and younger kids so differently. She has treated M and C like "big kids" since they were four. The younger kids do not get to do the same thing M and C did when M and C were their age it seems.
I do get a giggle about M admitting she snuck down to the basement to watch either Girls Next Door or Kendra on Top. And Kate thinks M isn't surfing the web on friends' phones? Ha!
Out of curiosity have any of the Sheeple Six defected like so many did after the Sarah Palin camping fiasco?
Kate has no self-awareness. The way she portrays herself is unknown to her. Kate lies to us, lies to herself, all to try to make herself look a certain way. She has done a terrible job. Kate appears to be always "trying too hard." Comes off fake/phony/plastic. She wanted that huge family, but wants her kids to foot the bill and allow herself to do as she pleases. Without the kids, she would never, never have achieved "d-list celebrity status."
Reading all your comments on KG's militant schedule made me think, does she schedule when
they are allowed to, you know, use the bathroom, too? What if one has to at 6:03 am when they are supposed to be marching down the stairs? or during supper? It sounds that controlling!
I felt bad for Kendra and the kids.
They were both scared s**tless of Kate and what she might do if they broke her rules.
And Deanna honey you a babysitter nothing more sorry.
(I thought Deanna was the nanny).
So if the kids rarely watch TV (Kate's words) then how do they know who Kendra is?
And they have to ask her permission to us her Ipad really Kate the girls are 12yr not 5.
Stop being a prison guard Kate be a mother.
can't believe Kate sprung the money to build a treehouse.
She didn't. It was an episode. Paid for by TLC.
And I find it so sad that "the littles" get a whopping 1/2 per day of play time "if they don't have homework". What a life!
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They are nine years old. They must have lots of homework by now if they are anything like most nine year olds. I noticed that the time breakdown after school left almost no time for homework. Per Kate, they get home, discard their uniforms and it's straight to the chicken coop and other chores. Then it's dinner time (chores take the rest of the afternoon???? Sheesh!), then more cleanup and chores after dinner (why can't Kate do this during the week??), then there is just a half an hour reserved for play or HOMEWORK before it's time for showers and bed.
Even a first grader these days needs more time than just a measly half an hour. It doesn't add up. And yes where was the time for play, relaxing, a little T.V., wind down from the day? I have no problem with a child doing a few chores but this is so excessive. They spend all afternoon doing chores. They are not slaves, they are children with obligations to school. How about at least rotate it so that only one or two kids has to do chores each weekday?? How much chores can their possibly be when you've got a chore jar full of crap to do on the weekends?
These poor kids. The teen years are going to be insane. Insane in the membrane. What a mistake to put that manual online. She needs psychological help.
SaraMRN2010 said... 71
If you really want to read something heartbreaking, read her household manual. It is over on here:
http://abc.go.com/shows/celebrity-wife-swap
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What an absolutely STIFLING existence.
The G-kids work, work, and work some more- and Kate bosses people around, shops, and jogs.
That explains the "beaten down" look on their faces.
Seriously. The "littles" have to tunnel out of that compound.
Maybe Kate can convert the mcmansion into a Bed & Breakfast...
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 147
Just because something is a "societal norm" doesn't make it right.
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True, but I don't see what is right about exposing a TWO YEAR OLD to sexually explicit photos. In fact study after study has shown sexualized children present with a whole host of psychological problems. Sometimes, things are a norm for a reason.
I never saw a study that said that if you make African Americans equal it gives them psychological problems.
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All well and good, but my post was in response to your blanket statement that you "question those who are hellbent on breaking societal norms." You didn't say "I question those who are hellbent on breaking societal norms in a manner that has the potential to cause psychological harm."
Do you remember LIz's brief stint on Twitter?
I can't remember the exact wording and maybe someone who is good at that can find it back in our comments, but she said something to the effect of, when the kids are over here at least they just get to be kids and relax.
I knew what she meant when she said that and it made me sad. But now I REALLY know what she meant and it breaks my heart. I'm not sure why Kate doesn't think this treatment isn't going to alienate them and have them running for the hills to Jon's the second they are old enough. Or, maybe that's what she wants. She figures by that time they'll be of no use to her anyway maybe.
And why is she getting 20 more chicken?
I just don't understand this they have 10-20 chickens now isn't that to much?
That just means more work for the boys and the twins.
Probably the only time those overworked, over-controlled kids get a break is when they're sick, which explains why they're sick so often.
Kate wasted no time telling Hank Jr. "who's in charge". I'll bet she was dying to yank that little guy up buy all those curls and hurl him into his bed.
Robert Hoffman could use that CWS episode as a visual aid companion to his book. What a miserable bitch that woman is.
I beg to differ on the subject of the kids becoming uncontrollable during their teen years. KT will maintain complete control of those kids as long as they live under her roof. She by her own admission is in total control of FOOD. That as far as I can tell is her only job. She controls every morsel of food that goes into their mouths. She knows the game and plays it well. It is classic, very effective and quite militaristic.
She is setting those kids up for sneaky rebellion as teens. Kind of like the pk's - preachers' kids - I knew throughout my life. Not all of them, but most of them.
Local we rotated too and it's really the most fair and logical way to do it.
If you have your own bedroom/bathroom, that's your responsibility. The rest of the house is rotated. No one could really argue there was anything unfair about it.
Forget all these silly little strips of paper, she just needs a chore chart and the NINE names (yes, you too Kate) on magnets and switch them around every week. Simple.
Kate's system is so fundamentally unjust I want to scream, with the boys saddled with all the dirty work including the 50 chickens and bathrooms they likely never even USE.
I remember the day Kate said she would never get a nanny....LOL.
I am sure she has plenty of help. She was in between nannies and housekeepers.
LIbrarylady, preacher's kids! Yes, you hit the nail on the head.
The harsh reality is there's going to be pot and sex in those treehouses and Kate is going to be the one shocked when someone turns up stoned, pregnant or both. Because it won't be any of us who are shocked.
Kendra was deeply disturbed about how the kids were treated. Says a lot.
Kate just rolled her eyes at everybody. Or gave them the death look.
That was just plain painful to watch.
I can't imagine why Kate thinks that that "performance" is going to garner her more jobs in teevee.
Oh. A NORMAL manual.
Hank is an "angel", a "great little human being." Aww. Hank gets age appropriate choices, like what he wears. Hank isn't allowed to bully, and Hank is consulted when his parents are leaving him for the night on a date. Hank doesn't usually misbehave otherwise (funny how that works out) so it's not an issue, if anything he is sometimes shy.
Kendra may be a slut and a whore but she's a good mom who knows her child on a deeper level than Kate ever will. And RESPECTS him.
Anonymous this time--
Remember how I've said in the past that it's been hard to watch my grandchild's life because my dil is so much like Kate.
Last night's episode is truly my grandchild's life, and there is not a thing I can do about it.
I cry every time I see the kid. My heart is truly broken for the child. And for me.
All I can do is be there for the child as much as I'm allowed.
Pity Party said... 166
The Gosselin kids are serving 18 years on the compound.
And Kate is the guard and the warden and the boss of the compound.
Hopefully the kids will make parole when they turn 18.
Why would CWS have Kate give Kendra pointers on how to have a happy marriage, when in fact Kendra does have a happy marriage, and Kate is long divorced and doesn't even have a boy friend in sight? Makes no sense at all.
I've only watched the first 15 minutes of the episode on Hulu and it's already apparent how full of shit Kate is. She herself says she "oversees" laundry, errands, grocery shopping. Who the hell is she "overseeing" if she in the next breath claims she does it all alone? And if she is doing everything herself, how does she manage to get into bed by 9:30 each night? It's sickening to watch. Does anyone really believe Kate does it all alone? Also, Deanna is clearly an idiot with the mental capacity of a teenager.
I don't understand how someone like Deanna who doesn't even live in the state knows them so, so well. Did the kids even seem that close to her? It seems like they would be more comfortable with Ashley.
What I also don't understand in the manual is how she is apparently spending all day doing errands and checking email. What is the point in buying in bulk if you're running around all day every day? Okay, I can understand with a big family having to at least run out and get fresh milk every few days, but every day is just ridiculous. She has the fridges, freezer and storage space for it, do a huge shopping trip every Friday and be done with it.
It just makes no sense. Plenty of parents who have big families somehow manage to hold down a full time job in the midst of everything else. By Kate's schedule I don't see where actual work to support these kids and not the other way around would ever fit in.
Ummm!!!!! EXCUSE ME!!!! What about the games she always say they are playing with her. I'm sure they didn't learn to play them a new along with her. There is a lie there.
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She also has said on Twitter that they watch American Idol, The Voice (that's three hours a week right there for each program), Dexter, Food Network including Iron Chef, not to mention all the movie nights, what am I missing? She has mentioned tons of shows they watch. When's that, while the boys are working?
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 179
She also has said on Twitter that they watch American Idol, The Voice (that's three hours a week right there for each program), Dexter, Food Network including Iron Chef, not to mention all the movie nights, what am I missing? She has mentioned tons of shows they watch. When's that, while the boys are working?
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But then she back tracks and says the kids rarely watch tv or go on the web.
So I think it's either (A) they watch what she wants. (B) they don't watch tv at all.
Or she lying about everything which is possible.
I would be embarrassed to be on Celebrity Wife Swap if I wasn't a wife,
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I think most people would be embarrassed to go on that show at all. Look at their lineup. They can't boast a single legitimate celebrity. It's all D-lister trash bottom of the barrel child abusers, people who make sex videos and people with criminal records.
And now it's the day after the Big Show, and that means what in Kateland? Nothing, a big fat nothing. Kendra is, of course, filming her new show, Deanna is working in NYC and Kate, umm, well, she's back to supervising her pathetic life. Except, now her damning household rules manual is out there for the reading, and her children have been shown on national tv to not be so happy for the cameras that their bitch mother claims they miss so much. So so sad.
I read the manual. When does she enjoy her kids and interact with them? They do chores, homework for a half hour, showers at 7 p.m., and she writes, "At 7:30 p.m. the six are in bed. Thank goodness. At 8:00 p.m. it's officially lights out for the little kids."
Thank goodness? Thank goodness for what? For having the kids in bed? It sounds like they are a nuisance...just something there in the house to do manual labor.
At least her own words have put the exaggerations to rest by some on Twitter who keep exaggerating their time away during the school day. Some say ten hours, some eleven hours, and posters here have said it's just not true, that they are in school seven hours, plus an hour and a half bus ride which equals nine hours tops that they are gone during the day, NOT ten or eleven.
ROL has a new post about Kate. What is striking though, is the picture showing most of the kids..not a happy face in the bunch. Collin is looking away from the camera like always.
They can't boast a single legitimate celebrity. It's all D-lister trash bottom of the barrel child abusers, people who make sex videos and people with criminal records.
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I saw that Mark McGrath is scheduled for next week. I always kind of liked him from his days on "Don't Forget The Lyrics." What skeletons does he have in his closet?
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Why would CWS have Kate give Kendra pointers on how to have a happy marriage, when in fact Kendra does have a happy marriage, and Kate is long divorced and doesn't even have a boy friend in sight? Makes no sense at all.
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It really was mind-boggling. The entire show was nothing but lies and contradictions. I think she royally screwed herself by doing CWS. It did nothing but magnify her distorted perception of reality and expose her as a liar and a hypocrite and a child abuser. It certainly did nothing for her career - unless there's a casting call for Real Nutjobs of Berks County.
Oh! Well, with the exception of Mark McGrath. I loved Sugarray. :)
Still, he should know better.
Also Kate didn't approve of Kendra having a nanny and house keeper.
B**h how many nannies and housekeepers lawn boys Mr. fixes do you have.
She's so two faced and she has the balls to say were jelly of her girl please.
Librarylady and Admin - Ummmm, I'm a PK and yeah my brothers and sisters and I raised some hell in our day and we weren't angels but we weren't sneaky and rebellious as teens and there are 7 of us. We had a good and open relationship with our parents. Librarylady I know that you qualified your statement with not all but admin what's up with "...preacher's kids! Yes, you hit the nail on the head". None of us turned up stoned and/or pregnant. We've all been married to our spouses for many, many years and have raised productive kids. Maybe the PKs you know are some very strict religion? My dad was an Episcopal priest (or basterdized Catholic as he liked to joke).
Mel-your post #117 was an excellent recap. Kudos to you.
@Anonymous... wow you kinda said it all right there. This is a place that I (yes, as a fan of Kate's) come to get all the scoop. I'm kind of grateful that people who have a "mission to change laws and protect innocent children" are so willing to invest so much daily effort into a blog about someone they don't particularly like. Unless the point and goal is to nitpick a person to shreds without any actual proof (like hello have you ever seen Kate pull a kid by its hair please correct me if I'm wrong) and get the personal satisfaction of having complete strangers agree with you, therefore boosting your ego.
Hell, that's a fantastic reason to run a blog. For attention! Although it's perfectly acceptable in this instance because they're not exploiting children or stealing kids money to fund their own personal lifestyle. I don't get the purpose of bashing every move she makes because I don't like seeing negative everything about any one person. That's just me. However, you all make some valid points in your lengthy and intricate posts. All I can say is keep up the positive posts and lessen the conversation about beating kids (which we've never seen evidence of!) A diary or supposed journal from a woman's trash is not evidence especially if you've not seen its actually Kate's handwriting!
Okay I'm rambling and starting to attack. So I will maturely leave before I'm pecked to death because I'm 23 and have less life experience. All I can hear is "Who cares the circumstances, get help now! Stop defending Kate the child abuser!"
MESSAGE RECEIVED: I get that Kate supporters are clearly not welcome. Otherwise my posts would be posted!
AuntieAnn said... 185
It certainly did nothing for her career - unless there's a casting call for Real Nutjobs of Berks County.
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LOL! Good one!
NJ, obviously neither of us meant ALL preacher's kids. I know a ton of preacher's kids from going to a Christian school and many of them have perfectly great parents and don't feel much need to rebel. I'm talking about the stereotypical repressed kids. It's just a good analogy IMO, to what happens when you do this to a kid. You could really substitute in any overbearing parent demanding perfection and rigidity, preacher or not.
And I don't believe for one second that 12yr and 8yrs sit around.
Thinking about mom's dating life and that mom should have a man.
And if they do it's something really wrong with that picture.
For the life of me, I truly cannot understand this "It's best in our home to minimize little choices (Or in other words, in Katespeak, to enforce total control on everything...) in order to avoid chaos". She always talks or writes about her kids in that way, like they were some kind of Huns perpetually on the brinks of rasing havoc that house. If 8 years old need to be that controlled all the time, I'm sorry, but to me that's not a sign that they are well-behaved. That's a sign they can't be trusted to act civilized. Not the same thing in my book.
Jolee, I don't recall not approving any of your posts. You've been somewhat overall respectful. Better than some anyway! You broke rule 4 and insulted us all by accusing us of just being here for attention, but since I could see you sincerely made an effort to try to follow the rules I let it slip. I'm glad you told us you are 23. I'm curious how you will feel about Kate in 5 years, 10 and more. You are welcome here just understand that your opinion is a minority one and obviously a lot of people are probably going to disagree.
Admin-if you still want to do a recap, you can watch the episode here.
http://www.hulu.com/watch/461131
White I totally agree and also I would argue that when a kid feels respected and feels like he has some input in the family, chaos should actually decrease. She is doing things that are actually creating the opposite of what she's trying to accomplish.
You can give a kid choices without REALLY giving them a choice, if your personality disorder really has to have things a certain way. Little things like asking them when it's raining if they want to wear their red boots or their black boots (i.e., not giving them the option of choosing sandals or sneakers) and whether they want raisins, apples, or cranberries in their oatmeal (they will have oatmeal and not cookies or chocolate they just get to choose the toppings) do WONDERS for helping a kid feel respected and learn to make decisions. And you still get to control thing. Kate needs to look for options within the no options scenario she imposes to help these kids.
And I still don't get why 9 and 12 year olds can't just sit whereever the heck they plant themselves. Who cares? That's the bigger problem here, why kids this age allegedly can't simply pick a seat and sit down in it. At this age they are still fighting over seats? REALLY Kate? If true, and I'm not saying it is, that's just pathetic. Pick a seat and sit down in it and don't fight about it or you go to your room, it's as simple as that.
Kendra Wilkinson Breaks Down on Celebrity Wife Swap, Husband Hank Baskett Battles With Kate Gosselin
http://tv.yahoo.com/news/kendra-wilkinson-breaks-down-celebrity-wife-swap-husband-154000893-us-weekly.html
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Gosselin's main criticism of Wilkinson: she supposedly didn't spend enough time with her son, Hank. "By you focusing so much for caring for Kendra's every need and desire, I almost feel like you're enabling and allowing her to focus mostly on herself as well," the mother of eight argued to Baskett.
(The difference between Kate & Kendra)
"We're complete polar opposites," the former Playboy model said. "She believes that pretty much one minute away from your kids is something you'll regret. I believe the opposite, that you sometimes have to spend time away from your kids to be happy."
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OH, MY EVER LOVING GOD.
God bless Kendra. It's obvious that she has no clue that Kate is a super huge HYPOCRITE with a conveniently lousy memory.
It too bad for Kate that many people still remember (very well) her shenanigans.
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