Kate with swap places with Kendra Wilkinson, tonight at 8 EST on ABC. Also this morning, Kate will be a guest on The View.
Tuesday, February 26, 2013
Discussion Thread: Celebrity Wife Swap
Kate with swap places with Kendra Wilkinson, tonight at 8 EST on ABC. Also this morning, Kate will be a guest on The View.
1256 sediments (sic) from readers:
«Oldest ‹Older 401 – 600 of 1256 Newer› Newest»Jolee, so in your opinion, unless you SEE the child abuse with your own eyes, it couldn't have happened? What if a parent confesses to it like Kate does in her journals? That's not enough?
I think by that logic, about 95% of kids who are rightly in foster care wouldn't be there, by those I'll believe it when I see it standards. The other 5% were caught on security cameras or by eyewitnesses.
Oh geez, I wish Kendra would swing by so we could educate her on just how much Kate has left these kids behind. And often to do pampering. Teeth whitening, Mexican photoshoots, surgeries. Gimme a break.
Anyway what's the point of being home with the kids anyway if all they are doing is being your slave? Hardly quality time.
Kendra? Don't change. Seriously.
And I find it so sad that "the littles" get a whopping 1/2 per day of play time "if they don't have homework". What a life!
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Oops! Typo. Obviously meant 1/2 hour per day. Those kids haven't seen 1/2 a day of playtime ever.
After reading that manual, I must say I despise Kate Gosselin. I can't think of one reality TV figure who I dislike more. That says a lot considering I actually watched VH1's The Surreal Life the season Omarosa and Janice Dickinson were on.
Again, if her fans truly want her to get back on TV, they need to start giving her some constructive criticism instead of blowing sunshine up her butt. Tell her to lose the "ums" when interviewed. Tell her to dress for an AM talk show, not like she's going clubbing at 10:00 a.m. Tell her to pick a lie and stick with it. They are part of her problem, not the solution.
I just hate to think how the future will play out for the Gosselin kids. Thankfully, hours of footage they can show their future therapists. Print that manual Jon so your kids can use it at future therapy appointments.
I see Deanna's twitter account is still public. Now that she's a "stah" like her bestie, she probably expects people to start following her in droves, and doesn't want to be bothered having to approve them.
I briefly watched some of the round table discussion, and Deanna had no input at all-just had a dumb look on her face and just nodded her head, almost like a robot.
When Kendra went out to lunch, she went out with Kendra's friend, Julie and Deanna. Doesn't say much for how many friends Kate's has, when Deanna is the only friend they could muster up.
'Celebrity Wife Swap' gets biggest ratings ever with Kate Gosselin
"The second season premiere of ABC’s Celebrity Wife Swap saddled Playboy pinup Wilkinson with Gosselin’s famed mega-litter. The show was seen by 7 million viewers and had a 2.4 rating among adults 18-49. That’s up 4 percent from the series premiere of the celebrity version of Wife Swap last year and represents an all-time high for the show among both viewers and the demo.
http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/02/27/celebrity-wife-swap-ratings/
Too bad they left Kendra off the headline.
"By you focusing so much for caring for Kendra's every need and desire, I almost feel like you're enabling and allowing her to focus mostly on herself as well,"
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Substitute "Kate" for "Kendra" in this sentence. and you have a perfect description of the sheeple-especially Milo.
Ampersmom said... 21
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8
Rest assured.. This is edited to be short so it comes across a little different then what was meant. Agree @deannatweeting ?
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Blizzard here and power restored only last night, but just in time to see this ridiculous episode of Wife Swap.
First, I want to comment on the above tweet: "a little different THEN what..."...that would be THAN, NOT "THEN," Kate. Once again, you have made it obvious that you do not do your own writing. You are, in fact, INCAPABLE of doing so.
Kate looked so harsh to me last night. Even though I can't stand her, I've always found her pretty (mostly BEFORE all her plastic surgery). She looked positively haggard and drawn to me--her face doesn't even remotely resemble her former appearance. She should have left well enough alone.
Deanna was there as her counterpart...REALLY? Deanna looks like a child, and her appearance alongside Kate on the show was downright comical--comical and disturbing at the same time.
I so agree with all who have said that Cara and the boys look heartbreakingly sad and devoid of joy. Those little boys were not happy to see Kate return...they did what was expected, turned around, and walked back in the house. No joy there.
My final comment is regarding Kate's bitchy face during the face-to-face meeting with Kendra. Kendra accepted her criticism with grace. Kate doesn't know the meaning of the word grace. The contempt on her face when Kendra was speaking was spine chilling.
Kate is a twit said... 2
When Kendra went out to lunch, she went out with Kendra's friend, Julie and Deanna. Doesn't say much for how many friends Kate's has, when Deanna is the only friend they could muster up.
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They should have checked the curb. There's a bunch of Kate's ex-bffs laying there.
Weird how she mentioned twice on her rules NOT to go to the twins room- sounds fishy like something to hide? I'm all for privacy but wouldn't the girls maybe want their mom to come into their bedroom- I know mine still does to chat or show me something, whatever?
Still don't get why the twins couldn't enter the kitchen - was it only 6:02?? and that's BS about the full breakfast- they had oatmeal and half a banana on the show plus she said she packs a bus snack as they aren't hungry at breakfast.And what about all the stale cereal she has?
The show had almost 7 millions viewers, and was #3 in network primetime ratings, behind NCIS(over 20 million) and NCIS:LA(over 16 million).
But is that due to Kate, with her 140,000 followers or Kendra with her over 2 million followers? Of course, the sheeple will be ecstatic and say it was ALL because of Kate.
http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/02/27/celebrity-wife-swap-ratings/
Deanna was introduced as Kate's best friend. Did they realize she is Kate's ONLY friend. All of her other two best friends no longer claim that roll, apparently.
Poor Kate Hank didn't even want to touch her..lol
He didn't want to touch her while teaching her to play golf.
Most men like getting close while teaching golf.
This is a place that I (yes, as a fan of Kate's) come to get all the scoop. I'm kind of grateful that people who have a "mission to change laws and protect innocent children" are so willing to invest so much daily effort into a blog about someone they don't particularly like.
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Are you aware of the fact that the blogs and people on the blogs are what got the momentum going to change the PA child labor laws that were so antiquated they were used during the Civil War (well, almost!)? Legislators had never bothered to change them; had no idea what was going on even though reality television was filmed right here in the state. No effort was ever made to write new laws that made sense, and so the status quo was maintained for decades and decades.
It was through the phone calls, e-mails, and awareness made by the blogs that caused them (and Paul Petersen) to sit up and do something about protecting the kids in the entertainment industry. People here who watched the show and blogged are the ones who got the ball rolling and we now have laws in place to protect the rights of the child.
At least I'm not scared to post under my name on both blogs than some who post here and than run over and 'tattle-tale' posting under different names. I call it as I see it. Deck/Titanic's post was judgemental and self-righteous. Why is my opinion less just because I post on a different blog. I have no alliance to this blog or any other blog. If a poster is being an ass, I'm going to call you an ass.
So I guess any parent that walks around naked in their bedroom or bathroom is considered a 'bad parent'. Different countries and cultures all have different parenting standards. Since it's not up to your standard here, those parents are sluts and whores too.
When Kendra went out to lunch, she went out with Kendra's friend, Julie and Deanna.
How come Kate's running "girls" didn't do it?
Starz22 said:
Kendra at 18 had sex with her bf and they taped it.It was to be between them two. Many couples do this. 5 years later ...after Hef and GND, the old ex-boyfriend trying to cash in on Kendra's fame....tried to sell the tape. Vviidd (sp) let Kendra know it was coming out one way or the other...they offered her a deal and she took it.Yes she made money off it.WHY NOT? This was not intended to make her money when they made the tape....she was backed into a corner and did what was best for her at the time. Kendra was/is not a porn star.She does NOT have sex with men intending to make money.
I'm kinda pissed I have to defend her.
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Thank you for recapping the history of Kendra's sex tape. She didn't want to have it be made public, but when she realized it was going to happen anyway - she dealt with it and said, if anyone is going to make money, it better be me. I'm sorry to see the enjoyment some people have with calling Kendra a whore, in all caps no less, as often as they can. It's disturbing in a way.
Let's be straight here - many women, especially young, attractive women, may hook up with men who are quite a bit older than they are, because these men are established, financially well off and can provide many of the finer things in life to these women. Heck, many older and less attractive women do the same thing. Many consider this "selecting the mate that can best provide for you." In our society, women typically have a lower earning power than men. If you are a young woman who hasn't had much in the way of advantages - lower income background, no real education or extensive job skills, then you have to rely on your wits to get by. If that means you catch the eye of a man who is willing to offer you security in exchange for you sleeping with him occasionally, many women will consider that a fair exchange. It's not prostitution, at least not in the legal sense.
Sorry to beat this topic yet again. I am so strongly against the concept of denigrating women for making certain choices in life. Most of us are women here -- seems like we should realize that life is hard for us all, one way or another, and for some women it's even tougher with less options. The way I see it, Kendra took the lemons life had given her and turned them into lemonade. No one got hurt in the process. In the Gosselin saga - eight little children got hurt and continue to be hurt by their mother's behavior and cruelty.
I want to thank everyone who has shared their opinion of the show last night, as I did not watch it myself. It was very interesting to hear the different perspectives.
Whatever any of us think of Kendra, it sounds pretty clear that her husband loves her deeply and does so much for her because of that love and affection. I wish those two a very long and happy life together, even though the odds may be stacked against them. They have a sweet little boy that they both love.
Kate might have once inspired love in Jon, but she's gone too far down the rabbit hole to ever find that again. She gets people to do things for her by 1) paying them to do so; or 2) berating them into doing so. Nothing is done out of love and affection.
I'm so glad Jon has those children at least half the time. He really is their saving grace, and hopefully as the children get older, the family law judge will allow the children a greater leeway in selecting which parent they wish to live with. If they want to be with their dad fulltime, they should be allowed that.
"DAILY ROUTINE - AFTERNOON
Once dinner is in the oven at 3:30 p.m., I head to the bus stop to pick up the kids by 4 p.m."
So, Kate leaves the oven on when she goes to the bus stop??
While this would not surprise me one bit, I suspect she's able to leave it on because the "not-full-time-help" is at the house. Better watch out, Kate -- your lies are starting to trip over one another.
Don't you love Kate's misleading descriptions of her "help"? She says repeatedly that she doesn't have full-time help (the implication being she has *no* help) -- when the truth is more likely that she has LOTS of part-time helpers. The lady doth protest too much....
And who puts dinner in the oven at 3:30pm?
Saddest comment so far... because it rang so true to my ears:
Starz 22 (120) "The boys are shit. They clean up shit....the bathrooms...the chicken coop..the dog poop in the yard."
Snarkier comment so far... ditto.
Mel (117) "And that was some pretty flirty body language when she asked him about the wine. It was like, yeah, I was obnoxious before...here you wanna look down my shirt?"
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack
@Kateplusmy8 @Mydmaxx Well, U know this is my last tweet! :(
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I thought Milo would be madly cheering Kate on this morning but when I checked her tweets I saw the above. Her last tweet ever? Could we be so lucky?
The ratings are in. Seven million viewers. Milo will be hammering ABC to get Kate a show, come hell or high water.
I didn't see the show except the meeting at the end. Why was Kate dressed like she was going to a wedding and Kendra looked so normal - jeans, sweater, hair in ponytail?
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Because Kate has zero instinct for appropriate dress.
The meeting at the end really highlighted Kate's misery living in the world that she created. She was on the edge of tears for the entire final meeting, and, I really did feel a little sorry for her.
She has staked her entire well-being on this imaginary persona that she has been peddling since the tups were born, and her fear of criticism was obvious in her scowls, eye rolls and defensive posture. I think that Kendra and Hank were exceedingly kind to her because she was clearly on the verge of complete collapse at the possibility that her house of cards that she has built her life on was about to be exposed.
When Deanna chimed in that she hoped that Kate would learn to relax for thirty minutes, guilt-free, it gave everyone an out, and they all grabbed it. Enabling--oh, yeah--I see why Kate likes her around. When she heard that, Kate's face transformed into one of relief--this was a message that works with her over-worked persona. Not that her children need to relax--SHE does. And, loved the stills at end showing her laid out in her best Red Cross blanket pose.
She certainly tried to rewrite history in giving Hank a painting project. Won't work--we all saw her freak-outs when carving pumpkins, at the Crayola factory, ice cream, etc.
And, when Kate was in a reality show it was a career, but, when someone else does it, she is doing "nothing"?
She is just so socially awkward--she brings nothing to the table in the way of fun or conversation. Her continued questions about whether Hank had a clone or twin were over-the-top and fake--since, she spent most of her time criticizing him and trying to change him.
I have to say that Kendra certainly has charisma and an easy manner about her. Despite her Barbie look, she comes across as kind, easy-going, natural and authentic. I can see that the camera loves her--if she has a bad side, I didn't see it.
If Kate thought that she could use this to launch a new reality show, ala Supernanny, she is truly delusional. The show simply confirmed that her kids, who have worked to provide for the family for years, have less privileges than Alcatraz prisoners and that she stops out the fire in everyone who has the misfortune to come into her sphere.
All-in-all, Kate proved that she is as she appears--controlling, self-invoved, blaming, rationalizing, unloving, rigid, miserable, lonely, awkward and, just an epic fail on all fronts. If she is wondering why she is where she is right now, viewing this episode should answer her questions.
Also: Kate doesn't take any time for herself and feels guilty when she does? I guess those mani/pedis and fake tan maintain themselves? She also writes in her manual that her needs come last. HA! That's why we saw her in the RV episode dragging the kids to a jewelry store because she saw something she liked while they were waiting for their laundry to get done. What a load of bullshit. Hell, anyone doing as much manual labor as she claims to do herself wouldn't have such a manicure to start with.
If it was edited as Kate claimed, then what part was she rolling her eyes at?
The Entertainment Weekly article about the ratings has the title-- "'Celebrity Wife Swap' gets biggest ratings ever with Kate Gosselin", inferring that is was because of Kate that it got such good ratings. However, I went back and took a look at last year's season premiere and compared the numbers between that show and this one.
Premiered Jan.3, 2012-this was the first show where they changed it to celebrities. Tracey Gold and Carnie Wilson were the wives that swapped. The show aired at 10pm on a Tuesday.
18-49 Rating - 2.3
18-49 Share - 6
Viewers Live+SD (million)- 6.250
Ratings for last night's show which aired at 8pm.
18-49 Rating - 2.4
18-49 Share - 7
Viewers Live+SD (million)- 7.00
Yes, it did get higher ratings that the previous 10 shows, but when you compare the 2 premiere episodes, there's really not that big of a difference.
People may have turned in for Kendra or for Kate--OR they may have just turned in because it was the premiere show of the season.
I have first hand issues with Kate's over controlling ways. For example, where to sit.
I grew up having to sit in the same place at the table every day, eating off the pink plate.
Everyone had his/her own color of dishes and his/her own place to eat from them. If I had decided to sit in my sister's spot or eaten off her yellow plate, my mother would have squawked. I could not rearrange my bedroom without her getting upset and wondering why. "The furniture was bought to fit in the room the way I had it", she would tell me. I've already shared about food control and having our meals plated in the kitchen, no seconds allowed. That's just 3 things. There are more.
The upshot is that I STILL, at the age of 60, have a very hard time making decisions. I grew up with decisions not even being an option - they were always made for me.
Wnen something comes up that I need to decide, I really struggle. I bet 99% of the people on this blog would say "no big deal, just do option A, it's a no-brainer, fidosmommy!", but I really have to think and mull and fret over it and even then I second guess my decision. It is almost debilitating. Thank goodness in my job, although I'm "the buck stops here" lady,
I have an excellent board I can talk to and let them help makae the best decisions for all involved. They like being part of that process and I'm glad to have them.
The Gosselin children don't have a good future in decision making if they are robbed of their
ability to even try with the small things. A child their age should be given much more freedom to think for himself/herself. "I would like to sit by Joel on the bus today" does not sound like an unreasonable request. What is unreasonable is a mom who won't pay attention
to the needs of the child to break away from the restraints.
I feel their frustrations because I have felt their frustrations in my own past.
The show did well enough in the ratings. I guess she earned her all expense paid trip. What little I watched was boring, predictable and very scripted. I'm assuming Kendra pulled in the ratings, but unfortunately Kart will no doubt benefit from this and will continue to put those poor kids on display for television every opportunity she gets. It's a shame for these kids, but she knows how to recycle, regurgitate and reinvent her phony image enough to continue her quest to stay in the entertainment business. Unfortunately, the kids will be subjected to her narcissistic needs to stay relevant for years to come. As other have stated, she kept her 6 in highchairs until they were eight, wearing bibs, using sippy cups and she she still uses plastic plates. Her kids were unable to wipe themselves or bathe without help and she had the nerve to criticize Kendra's 3 year old child. Kart limited her children from attending preschool for filming purposes, although the 6 desperately needed preschool for socialization and speaking skills. She is a lying piece of garbage but I do believe she'll have no real relationships, outside of her paid friend(s) and will never find a companion to tolerate her in real life because she's impossible to live with and will be truly alone in later years. I just hope Jon will get primary custody of the boys at some point before they permanently become unfeeling, nonthinking robots. They do appear very disconnected and are just going through the motions in her house. I think all the kids are brainwashed by her to a certain degree and will only come into their own when they are finally living out of the house and away from her. Considering her divorce has been final for three years and she's still talking about dating (aside from whatever her relationship was or wasn't with Steve) she needs to stop milking the three year old divorce and move on now. It's not healthy. I don't believe any real celebrity would be interested in her and she should just accept that her options for dating are limited to local everyday men. She'd be lucky if any man would date her, not because of her kids, but because she's a delusional uptight greedy, fame seeking witch. I did catch the end sit down with Deanna (Kart's surrogate husband) and Kendra and Hank. I saw the dark evil eye pass over Kart's face when they were speaking to her. You can't hide evil.
I bet Kendra would have had a blast with Jamie instead of zombie Deanna. (but Jamie probably wouldn't have kept her mouth shut about the real things that happen there so she wouldn't be a good choice)
Kate has to put on a super friendly kind face around Deanna to keep her coming around for free babysitting and makeup.
The only reason Kate hasn't taken much time for herself is because she hasn't been jetting all over the country as much as she used to. She was gone plenty before.
Saw this link on twitter. too. Not what I wanted to see.
ABC's 'Celebrity Wife Swap' Opens at Series Highs
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2013/02/27/abcs-celebrity-wife-swap-opens-at-series-highs/171132/
Doesn't it seem that Kate has that evening schedule hind-a$$ backwards? Shouldn't they get their homework done FIRST and out of the way, when they get home from school, and then do the chores before dinner? That way they would have the rest of the evening to play or relax after they eat.
A Pink Straight Jacket For Kate said... 160
Seriously. The "littles" have to tunnel out of that compound.
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Pink, when I read that I immediately thought of the scene in The Shawshank Redemption where Tim Robbins tunnels his way to freedom through the foul sewer lines. I hope those poor
children can be rescued.
Kendra has a friend living in Central PA? That's nice they could get together.
Seems like the only person that had fun was Kate.
I don't think the kids or Kendra or Hank or lil hank had fun but Kate did.
That sounds about right.
To URL (#14): Loved your comments! You have that witch Khate'$ number. As you point out, it is those evil eyes -- the windows to her cold, dark soul -- that are truly chilling!
I was reading Twazzup last night and couldn't believe this tweet from Kate:
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8
@Will6786 he's an amazing SMART precious little guy. I truly have never met a little boy like him..
What about HER OWN little boys?
I just watched the first 2 minutes at Hulu.com. and noticed a few things Kate says in the introduction which maybe should have been edited, because they makes Kate look even dumber than she is:
1. Kate says that she wrote 3 books, all of which made the "New York best sellers list"
should that be NY "TIMES"?
2. "Somewhere around 2011 the world watched Jon and I go through a divorce"
Around 2011? She doesn't even remember what year she and Jon got divorced? No wonder she can't get past it.
When they show Kate and the kids standing outside while Kate is introducing the kids, why is Leah barefoot?
Remember Pizzagate? Well, Kate is shown putting pancakes on one of the boy's plate, and she is picking them up and placing them there using HER BARE HANDS!!! What's even worse is she's holding a fork in the same hand she picked up the pancakes with-what was the fork for?
Admin-you must recap this show, it deserves your excellent use of snark.
I thought Milo would be madly cheering Kate on this morning but when I checked her tweets I saw the above. Her last tweet ever? Could we be so lucky?
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Nobody could be that lucky. That was sent last night right before 11 p.m. Lights Out Man was on his way...
The Gosselin kids look so beat down and sad. Like they were begging for help with their eyes. Kate has absolutely destroyed their little spirits. You could see fear in some of them at just the mere thought of doing something outside of Kate's rules. I bet they thought for sure they would be severely punished when she got back. How that woman has even one supporter is beyond my comprehension.
I thank God I was not born a Gosselin child. It's the saddest thing I've ever seen. They may have nice clothes and a nice house. But they have an evil mother.
As other have stated, she kept her 6 in highchairs until they were eight, wearing bibs, using sippy cups and she she still uses plastic plates.
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According to media stories (and photos) the kids were out of high chairs right after they turned seven. I'm not sure about the bibs, though. Did they ever give them up?
I'm glad to see the ratings were OK. Lots of people saw Kate (again) for what she is. Maybe some of them tuned in to Kendra and didn't know much about Kate. Now they know about Kate!
Also, I didn't see the Tracey Gold/Carnie Wilson episode last year, but food would probably have been a big topic there. Carnie, of course, has gone through gastric bypass and
Tracey about killed herself with her anorexia.
Complete and total opposites in that one area.
So, perhaps Kate and Kendra were selected as complete and total opposites too. One very nice, one not so nice. One free and open, one
bound up like glue. One honest and forthright,
one not able to keep her stories straight.
Kart limited her children from attending preschool for filming purposes, although the 6 desperately needed preschool for socialization and speaking skills.
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The kids went to church pre-school, followed by Junior Kindergarten and then Kindergarten at the school they now attend.
2. "Somewhere around 2011 the world watched Jon and I go through a divorce"
Around 2011? She doesn't even remember what year she and Jon got divorced? No wonder she can't get past it.
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If that's what Miss Perfect Spelling and Grammar said, it should have been, "...the world watched Jon and ME go through a divorce."
I agree that the Gosselin kids will not have a chance at decision making when they are older cos they aren't allowed to make any decisions now and learn from their mistakes. Kate says that her kids are well behaved. Yeah,well behaved when their day is micro-managed down to the minute. When those rules are relaxed and they can act on their own, chaos erupts. I.E. the tacos. I thought Kate said that she did the lunches everyday. Another lie? Also,so much for the chore jar. I hope the Stir sees that she is full of herself just like CC did. I also think it would be a HUGE liability for any station to let Kate go into any home and turn any home into a boot camp like hers. Maybe she should have a show called How to take the Joy out of the life of your kids. And who locks a tree house???? Have a great day all.
Blowing In The Wind said... 36
I thought Milo would be madly cheering Kate on this morning but when I checked her tweets I saw the above. Her last tweet ever? Could we be so lucky?
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Nobody could be that lucky. That was sent last night right before 11 p.m. Lights Out Man was on his way...
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Yep, she's been tweeting the last few minutes. I thought with the sad face and just the strangeness of the tweet and a DM earlier, she was done. Silly me!
Kate is a twit said... 35
I saw the same I was like um Kate your last book didn't sell.
Plus you and Jon have been divorced for all most four years.
But maybe all the boxto has went to her newly shaped face.lol
It was obvious to me that the kids were NOT happy to see Kate return..The boys hardly would even look at her..She had to prompt them to even come to her..and I only saw one go...And did you see how freaked out they got about lettuce from the tacos getting on the rug? Kids were terrified about doing that...Must be one hell of a house to grow up in...8 kids worried to death about making a mess...And wonder why the tree house was locked? Does that make sense? I never knew ANYONE growing up whose parents kept the key to THEIR tree house...lol..It was a happy place to go play whenever you DID want to play there...Bet they haven't even seen the inside of it for years...
Watching Deanna and Kate interact, I wonder if they are having a relationship. Deanna's eyes really, really LIT up when she met up with Kate after the swap was over.
To Midnight Madness (#34): It is because she unconsciously HATES her three boys. They are just money makers and sh#t cleaners to her. As someone posted upthread, they clean up the chicken sh#t, they clean up the smelly bathrooms, and they clean up Shoka's doo doo. Those boys are nothing but sh#t cleaners to her.
Millicent said... (16)
"Thank you for recapping the history of Kendra's sex tape. She didn't want to have it be made public, but when she realized it was going to happen anyway - she dealt with it and said, if anyone is going to make money, it better be me."
I was unaware of this fact so I will recant my earlier statement that "it is still prostitution" and apologize.
If Kendra's boyfriend was the one who leaked the tape and her only option was to own it and at least get a cut then I say good on her.
Of course, it is a cautionary tale about filming yourself having sex at all. No matter how much you trust your partner there is no guarantee things will work out and something like that can certainly come back to haunt you.
What I really don't get is why anyone would tape themselves having sex in the first place. Really? Sex faces have to be some of the stupidest expressions in existence. :D
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Auntie Ann said...
"It certainly did nothing for her career - unless there's a casting call for Real Nutjobs of Berks County."
Bahahahaha, too funny Auntie. Love your snark, glad to see you back.
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I didn't watch CWS, I scrolled through the guide but didn't see it listed. Besides it conflicted with NCIS and well, enough said.
I did skim through Kate's manual though and quickly got fed up with her usual self-serving drivel.
I agree with everyone who has said that her "limiting small choices" parenting will one day backfire. Maybe not on her because she will just claim that the kids 'didn't know how to help her be a good mom', but it most certainly will for those kids.
How on earth are they going to handle big choices and decisions if they never practice with small ones?
Is it really "all that drama" to let the kids decide for themselves where they want to sit at the dinner table? How about a first come first serve basis; you're early to the table, you get first pick, you're slow to the table, sorry...you snooze you lose.
And if it really is all that drama, how about letting the kids decide BEFOREHAND what veggies they want with their meals? Make Sunday afternoon a brain storming session for the week where everyone gets a say and work out a freaking plan.
I mean really Kate, aren't you the Mastermind Mommy, the great "overseer" of all?
Ridiculous. She sets herself up to be some kind of single mommy of 8 martyr when nothing could be further from the truth.
She's just a control freak with delusions of grandeur with an out of control ego fed by 6 even more delusional people who think it's ever so cool that she exploits her children to maintain a lifestyle she could never have had without them in the first place.
Mark my words, more than one of those kids is going to run, run like the wind, first chance they get.
"Why is my opinion less just because I post on a different blog. I have no alliance to this blog or any other blog. If a poster is being an ass, I'm going to call you an ass."
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Possibly, but it's not going to get posted. Rule #4. You don't like being called an ass. You don't call someone else an ass. One can disagree without trashing and name-calling. It's the mature way to voice opinions.
You may post wherever you want -- here or there or everywhere but if a blog has rules, it's respectful to follow them. When you post on one blog, and then copy and paste responses from that blog to another blog for the purpose of mocking and dissecting, that speaks volumes about the poster, and not in a good way.
How embarrassing Kate kept the younger children infantilized for so long. Amazing that it will be nearly only two years since they graduated to regular chairs. The bibs were thrown away sometimes between age 6-7, I believe. They were still using them way long past Kindergarten. I don’t understand why she treats them so differently from the older girls. She wanted more children, but she treats them like slaves! Collin and Joel looked so checked out, the blank looks at the kitchen table at breakfast. They look like they have given up and are just going through the motions. It breaks my heart.
The show never explained how Kate filled the gap of 9 hours everyday…she has FIVE days a week and she cannot be doing the same thing every day as some things like doctor appointments, school meetings/events will come up so no way she is doing the same single thing everyday. I think they removed her ‘part-time’ help to make for fake reality; trick the viewers to make it look like Kate does it all herself. I hated that she put down Kendra’ saying she is not being a mother and saying that she is less of a mother of her lifestyle and not doing housework. WHAT?!? She is a hypocrite because she has had help for the past 8 years. It makes no difference whether you have 1 or 8 children; everyone has different needs. If Kendra wants a nanny and a housekeeper, I wouldn’t care because that is her house and money to spend, not mine. Kendra never put down Hank Sr, Hank Jr or any of the Gosselin children. I could see that she has genuine feelings and concerns for other people. She was not worried about not getting her ‘me’ time or try to make it all about her. HUGE difference between Kate and Kendra.
Why was Deanna at the meeting? That was bizarre. What is her role, really? The hand-holder? It was obvious Kate was crying but at over what is what I’m wondering. Is she so jealous of Kendra that she has to throw her under the bus from the beginning of the show? She had nothing good to say about her unlike what she was saying on twitter.
I’m also puzzled at her obsession of doing the housework 50/50, structure, scheduled lifestyle and doing the family togetherness thing. The equal housework and family time was never her priority. She totally threw that out of nowhere…she LIVES for the time away from home and dumps everything else on other people to do and freaked when the family did projects—all she could do was think of the mess. I think she only picked on Hank because she was JEALOUS of Kendra having it easy and wanted to make it harder for Hank for some reason. I could see that she actually enjoyed it. She mentioned luxury so I knew right away she wanted that lifestyle but did not have the money to do so. What else could she do about it? Pick on Hank and Kendra! Notice she turns her face toward the camera when she laughs? I wanted to tell her to stop looking at the camera!
According to media stories (and photos) the kids were out of high chairs right after they turned seven. I'm not sure about the bibs, though. Did they ever give them up?
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I don't know about the bibs, but I do remember when they were still very young they were given these "spork" things to eat with - a spoon with short tines. Collin was trying desperately to
learn how to use it, and he was trying to eat his meal with it. The spoon was too big for his mouth and the tines didn't really stab anything. Poor child finally had to just pick up his food with his fingers.
I thought right then he had been set up for failure. My heart broke a little that day.
I don't know when they graduated to real forks and spoons. Do they get knives yet? For a long time they did not, IIRC.
I have to comment about the kids sitting in the same seats. Are people talking about seats on the BBB or sitting at the dinnter table? I come from a family of four kids. When we were growing up, we all sat in the same seats when we ate. I don't recall my mom telling us where to sit, but we all sat in the same seats at every meal. My kids were the same way. I didn't tell them where they had to sit but they sat in the same seats when they ate. My husband and I as well. We have an island in our kitchen that seats three and when my husband and I eat, we sit in the same seats we always sit in. My grandson's booster seat was in one of the seats and when we took it off he just automatically climbed into that seat. Even now when he wants something to eat he always climbs into the same chair. Even if he is the only one eating. He even climbs into that seat if he wants to play with playdoh or do an art project. It's just force of habit. It's the same way with my vehicle. I didn't watch the show or read the manual so I'm assuming (I know, one should never assume) that Kate demanded they sit in the same seat. She's still an ass.
As far as the tups being in high chairs, my grandson was never in one. As soon as he was eating food, we got a booster seat that had a removable tray and we strapped it to the chair and he ate with us. Once he started using utensils, we took the tray off and slid him right up to the table or the island. Was it messier, sure. But how else will he learn. As for the tups in the high chairs, how in the world did they fit into them up until the age of seven. There's not alot of room to get your legs through. Those chairs were made for toddlers. She's still a tool.
Anonymous said... 46
Hahaha maybe that's why she doesn't have a man.
I bet she can wear the pants in the "relationship" with Deanna.
warmth,49...
You may post wherever you want -- here or there or everywhere but if a blog has rules, it's respectful to follow them. When you post on one blog, and then copy and paste responses from that blog to another blog for the purpose of mocking and dissecting, that speaks volumes about the poster, and not in a good way.
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Amen, and very well said!
Sheri said... 48
I was unaware of this fact so I will recant my earlier statement that "it is still prostitution" and apologize.
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thanks Sheri for keeping an open mind on the subject. I also agree with you about the whole "don't even make a sex tape" concept. Apparently filming yourself having sex with your partner is a much more common occurrence these days than it ever was when I was young and single. (I did have a boyfriend who suggested doing such a thing, to which I firmly responded "never in a million years." I also have a friend who met a guy online a couple of years back, began a romance and eventually met up with him for a week-end which resulted in them sleeping together. It was only later that she learned he had rigged up the room ahead of time with not one, but two video cameras and taped their entire encounter! Apparently this scum got his jollies by secretly taping sex with women and then uploading the videos to sex sites.)
In this "everything makes it way to the internet" world we live in, people should be cautious about allowing themselves to be filmed or photographed doing anything they don't want the entire world to possible see.
sheri, 48...How on earth are they going to handle big choices and decisions if they never practice with small ones?
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What concerns me is that in school the kids must make choices and decisions, no matter how small those choices may be. It's all a part of growing up and socialization, and with each grade level, those become more difficult but they are encouraged to take part in the decision-making process. Hopefully they are learning this at school. However, what a mixed message they get on the homefront when they are not allowed to make choices and are under the supervision of a control freak. Those kids are going to be so messed up that it's going to result in emotional and psychological problems in the not too distant future.
Admin 199 said: "You can give a kid choices without REALLY giving them a choice, do WONDERS for helping a kid feel respected and learn to make decisions."
I have no kids, never wanted kids, don't naturally understand/relate to kids, but I've been working with the 2-3 yos at church every week for about 16 months now. I've discovered it's really like dog training (something I innately DO understand). You control behavior by controlling the environment, so the puppy can mostly make good choices on their own. You set them up for success. As they have success and gain competency, you then expand the environment. They also need to know what TO do rather than what NOT to do. The example of choices is excellent - great technique. I had huge improvement with one of my rambunctious kids when I stopped telling him "no, don't do that" and instead started giving him parameters of what he could do. It took a lot of thinking on my part on how to rephrase it sometimes, but it really had a positive effect. So I turned "don't stand on the table" into "I see you're standing on the table because you want to see the chart on the wall. You can't stand on the table because you may fall and hurt yourself, and I care about you so don't want that to happen. Would you like picked up so you can reach the chart? Can you ask me to do that?" I understand that at 3 they don't really get the whole picture, but I just keep repeating it and reinforcing the desired behaviors because over time it will sink in.
The other dog training technique is don't try to smother behavior - redirect it in an appropriate manner. If you have a beagle, rather than telling it not to dig, give it it's own corner of the yard or a sandbox, and let them focus their natural instincts where it won't do harm. So going back to my rambunctious kid above, I took his desire to throw everything and asked him to help me pick up toys by "throwing" them in the toy bucket.
What I thought was the weirdest about Kate's parenting advice is some of it was actually sound (turn the chore into fun game - which is what I did to redirect the kid above. But it doesn't jive with anything she's actually shown herself, in words (bogging & twitter) or in action (on TV).
The more I see of her the sorrier I feel for her. And the sorrier I am for her kids.
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"Watching Deanna and Kate interact, I wonder if they are having a relationship. Deanna's eyes really, really LIT up when she met up with Kate after the swap was over."
Now, to me, in my personal opinion, this is the kind of speculation that people find childish and unnecessary.
Especially when it's from Anonymous and no one is owning it.
Who really cares what Kate's sexual orientation is because it's certainly not relevant to the discussion of Kate exploiting her children.
Again, just my opinion.
To Midnight Madness (#34): It is because she unconsciously HATES her three boys. They are just money makers and sh#t cleaners to her. As someone posted upthread, they clean up the chicken sh#t, they clean up the smelly bathrooms, and they clean up Shoka's doo doo. Those boys are nothing but sh#t cleaners to her.
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I think you mean subconsciously! I wouldn't say that she HATES them. Hate is a very strong word. She seems to favor the girls over the boys, but hates them? Kate is the way she is, but to come out and say she hates her sons really is over the top.
And if it really is all that drama, how about letting the kids decide BEFOREHAND what veggies they want with their meals? Make Sunday afternoon a brain storming session for the week where everyone gets a say and work out a freaking plan.
I mean really Kate, aren't you the Mastermind Mommy, the great "overseer" of all?
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But, you see, your idea requires creativity, a trait Kate does not possess.
I just read Kate's manual so disregard my above post. She's talking about a seating arrangement on the school bus. WTF! Are you kidding me. I hope the kids move to different seats once she's out of sight.
A couple of thoughts on her manual.
Cooking and Eating Habits: She says, "I don't have the option to simply run to the store for a carton of milk." She has said she didn't buy milk unless it was on sale so she wouldn't be running to the store to buy it anyway.
Daily Routine - Late Morning: She says she's always at the grocery store. She has said on several occasions that she is a very organized person. Well, if she was that organzied she wouldn't always be at the grocery store.
Daily Routine - Evening: She says one child has to wipe the stainless steel. These kids start doing chores as soon as they walk in the door. When the hell do they get the stainless steel dirty and why do they have to clean it. Also, one child has to clean the basement family room. Again, when do they have time to get it dirty. Holy cow. She also said that around 7:30/8:00 when "the littles" are in bed, Cara and Mady may be watching TV. I thought they didn't watch much TV. This woman can't keep her shit straight. What a PSYCHO! This has nothing to do with keeping the kids on a schedule and everything to do with Kate being in control. I'm surprised Kate didn't put in the manual what time the kids could go to the bathroom.
Aussie@57
I really like your techniques.
In a nutshell, Kendra is living the life that Kate has always dreamed of - a supportive,stay-at-home husband, her own tv show, freedom to pursue her career,a home in L.A. and full-time help.
Kate could have had it too but she squandered every opportunity she was given.
Sadly, her children are paying the price.
Unfortunately, the fact that there were decent ratings (although not the highest for the time slot) only confirms that it's always been the kids who've drawn the attention, not Kate. Anything she's done on her own has flopped. So she will be pushing for more, more, more. Sad for them.
Respomding to LB and to Capecodmama,
1) Kate had nothing to yell about with the Baskett family. Nothing. If anything, it was a dream world for her. But she had to come up with something negative to say. That's part of the show. So, she picked at nothing, making it a big ol' sore spot. She was grasping at straws, trying to make both the Basketts look like they just did not measure up to HER standards of HER fantasized superiority. After all, she's perfect, remember? Nobody can do anything better than Kate, even if she has to
dig in the barrel to find the issues to compare.
2) The tups were not in standard high chairs with the tray. They were elevated seats, much like you see in restaurants. But they were clearly past the need for them a long time ago. They were hovering over their food because they were so high up.
I believe the ratings were up because people wanted to see what the kids looked like and acted today. It also gave the audience a chance to see inside the massive home and how the household was run. No, it wasn't Kate; it was the kids who brought in the ratings.
As for the tups in the high chairs, how in the world did they fit into them up until the age of seven. There's not alot of room to get your legs through. Those chairs were made for toddlers. She's still a tool.
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They weren't the high chairs with trays made for toddlers. They were wooden chairs that were high that slid right up to the table so the kids ate from the table. In other words, high chairs.
Has Kate mentioned Jamie at all or posted pictures since the RV fiasco? I thought Jamie was her BFF. Has Deanna taken over the role of her best friend?
Mel said... 95
Wouldn't it be ironic if it was Kendra who was able to effect a change for those kids. If it was Kendra & Hank who called CPS on Kate. Or gave Jon the money to fight Kate for custody.
Ya know what Mel, it may have already happened.
What a great thought for the rescue of the tormented captives.
Once again playing catch-up! Before I forget, I was shocked to see how ?lumpy? KK looked at the couple table discussion at the end of the wife swap. Was it because she cried a lot at the table, which was edited out? Or was it botox moving around on her face? If she saw the rough cut of that meeting, it could be the reason she had more surgery, which was so obvious when she was on The View.
I thought it was interesting that KK was so harsh about how much Hank did for Kendra, when Jon did that much (x 8) for her. It seemed to me that subconsciously, she was seeing JON when she looked at Hank, and her comments reflected that.
I've only half way caught up w/the comments, so I'm sure someone else has already said all of this!
I believe the ratings were up because people wanted to see what the kids looked like and acted today. It also gave the audience a chance to see inside the massive home and how the household was run. No, it wasn't Kate; it was the kids who brought in the ratings.
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It also could have been the ratings were up because of Kendra. She has a heck of a lot more twitter followers than Kate.
The one thing I really disliked about the show was how Kate kept on whining how she didn't have time for "me time". This from a woman who left her children to go run races in Chicago, SD, NY, and LV, plus that one local run.
Then when asked when "how long has it been since you've been in a club", she replies "maybe one time in my life". How quickly she forgets(on purpose). She went to a club in the NYC birthday episode, and less than a year ago she flew to LV with Steve to see Brad Garrett.
Then she also say "I can't really tell the last time I had dinner with a guy". What about all the times she was away with Steve, just this past year, and her Fig & Olive dinners with Jason?
So much of what she says in that episode is just plain BS, trying to make people sorry for her. Of course, the general public who don't really know her would believe her, but you'd think her devoted followers would think "Huh-that's not true"
They're all excited now because of the ratings believing now that it's a lock that Kate will get a show because of it. They believe that Kate was the reason for the ratings, not anyone else. What they don't realize is that one show with good ratings doesn't mean a thing in the long run. I sort of feel sorry for them, because I don't think any of their dreams will come true.
Kate has alienated all her "best friends" or "close friends of the family." Deanna looks like a kid. Those 8 kids have had a revolving door of people in and out of their lives. Tons of loss there. We don't know half of what they have been through. Lots of drama caused by their mothers' instability. Money just hasn't been enough, never enough for Kate. There is no doubt she envies Kendra's life, no doubt whatsoever.
Read this review from today.com, which really puts Kate in a bad light. An excerpt:
"At the end, Kendra admitted that she had "grown up so much" from the experience. "I took some advice from her, and I am taking that in," Kendra told us. The show also revealed that she's spending even more time with her little son now.
As for Kate? Her parting words at the table weren't about what she learned from the experience, but that she hoped Kendra took a few lessons with her.
Every show needs a good guy and bad guy, right?"
http://theclicker.today.com/_news/2013/02/27/17119604-kate-gosselin-slams-kendra-wilkinson-on-wife-swap
Ex Nurse @ 22 - spot on every point in your post. Especially where Deanna told Kate to enjoy 30 minutes of guilt-free self-indulgence. Kate Gosselin the High Priestess of Narcissism. The Spa Queen. Good lord. Kate just nodded in agreement. She makes me ill.
Did you notice how she knocked back that shot when she was out with Kendra's friends? She's no stranger to a night on the town and drinking. I still say this show will not further her chances of returning to tv in any way, shape or form. (haha thanks Sheri and Upstater). No one likes a bully and she is a bully to her own children.
LaLaLandNoMore said... 73
Kate has alienated all her "best friends" or "close friends of the family." Deanna looks like a kid. Those 8 kids have had a revolving door of people in and out of their lives. Tons of loss there. We don't know half of what they have been through. Lots of drama caused by their mothers' instability.
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I wonder if this will cause them to have attachment problems as adults.
For those who did not watch, and asked about Shoka. He was actually shown 3 times during the episode. He was shown laying in the field during the introduction and he was also shown twice laying in the driveway when they did an outside shot of the house. However, there was no interaction shown with him at all.
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I believe the ratings were up because people wanted to see what the kids looked like and acted today. It also gave the audience a chance to see inside the massive home and how the household was run. No, it wasn't Kate; it was the kids who brought in the ratings.
Unfortunately, the fact that there were decent ratings (although not the highest for the time slot) only confirms that it's always been the kids who've drawn the attention, not Kate. Anything she's done on her own has flopped. So she will be pushing for more, more, more. Sad for them.
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I will say that I did tune in to see Both the Hanks & the Gosselin 8. And now that my curiosity is piqued, I can say I didn't see anything worthy of more filming or a new show. Mady is morphing into Kate Jr, Cara is into her sports as always, and the other 6 were doing typical 8 year old stuff. I will say, clearly Hank is who Kate wanted Jon to be, and possibly could have been if she had just waited and enjoyed she & Jon being young newlyweds instead of fast forwarding to her white lawn chair throne lifestyle so fast.
AuntieAnn said... 75
Ex Nurse @ 22 - spot on every point in your post. Especially where Deanna told Kate to enjoy 30 minutes of guilt-free self-indulgence. Kate Gosselin the High Priestess of Narcissism. The Spa Queen. Good lord. Kate just nodded in agreement. She makes me ill.
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I can't be the only mom who would consider laying in a tanning bed, getting mani/pedis, having the time to run 10 miles me time, am I?
I didn't watch the show but am enjoying what everyone here is saying. I'm listening to The Donald on Howard Stern and I would love to see Kate on The Apprentice. She'd have to do it on her own and she would be eaten alive becasue she's all smoke and mirrors. She'd love the idea of being on the show but would soon realize that she's out of her league. She'd be one of the few that can't hack it at all and has to crawl to The Donald and ask to leave due to a "family emergency".
If I missed someone mentioning this, apologies:
When Kendra and Deanna went to lunch with the friend (Julie?) did anyone else notice beneath her photo it said "Kendra's Friend".
Not Kate's. Not Deanna's. KENDRA'S.
Which means Kate couldn't even scrounge up one more friend of her own. Kendra had two friends take Kate out, plus, looked like there were several other friends at the Baskett house that evening.
Which once again means, Kate is a cold, friendless shrew.
Just Down The Road said... 13
This is a place that I (yes, as a fan of Kate's) come to get all the scoop. I'm kind of grateful that people who have a "mission to change laws and protect innocent children" are so willing to invest so much daily effort into a blog about someone they don't particularly like.
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Are you aware of the fact that the blogs and people on the blogs are what got the momentum going to change the PA child labor laws that were so antiquated they were used during the Civil War (well, almost!)? Legislators had never bothered to change them; had no idea what was going on even though reality television was filmed right here in the state. No effort was ever made to write new laws that made sense, and so the status quo was maintained for decades and decades.
It was through the phone calls, e-mails, and awareness made by the blogs that caused them (and Paul Petersen) to sit up and do something about protecting the kids in the entertainment industry. People here who watched the show and blogged are the ones who got the ball rolling and we now have laws in place to protect the rights of the child.
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I know that you and your fellow posters like to take credit for getting the PA law changed, but that's not Rep. Murt's version of events.
"Legislation to reform Pennsylvania laws regulating children in the entertainment industry is waiting for Gov. Tom Corbett’s signature, and it all started when state Rep. Tom Murt watched a TV show. The program was about former child actors from the 1960s and ‘70s, including Paul Petersen, who played son Jeff Stone on “The Donna Reed Show.” Petersen is president and founder of A Minor Consideration, Kid Actors Past and Present, formed to give guidance to young performers.
Murt, R-152, took an interest in the horror stories and contacted Petersen. He asked him to look at Pennsylvania’s child labor code. Petersen told him “it’s not the worst in the country, but there’s a lot of room for improvement.”
Petersen put him in touch with Kevin and Jodi Kreider. Kevin Kreider is the brother of Kate Gosselin, star of “Jon & Kate Plus 8,” the then-reality TV show about a Pennsylvania couple and their eight children."
http://www.phillyburbs.com/news/local/the_intelligencer_news/murt-s-child-labor-bill-comes-of-age/article_a65c984b-b566-5758-90e1-abe66ab678e1.html
AussieGoldenLuv = really liked your comments about how to kindly control and re-direct children into the behaviors you want, and help them make good choices.
Absolutely agree -- set them up to succeed! Help them to make good choices and it will become a habit :) I remember reading a parenting book years ago that also said to tell your child what to do, rather than what not to do.
Unfortunately, Kate will never do this kind of parenting. For her, it's all about control, micro-managing, and looking for faults. I don't know that she hates her boys, but she does not really like them and has always considered them "yucky" and less appealing than her girl children. I don't know if she just dislikes males on some very basic level, but the boys always got the worse of it. Remember that birthday episode where they went to a cupcake place and made their own cupcakes. They took them home and then at dinner, because they didn't eat to Kate's requirements, were told they would not be allowed to have their birthday cupcakes. However, the girls were allowed to eat theirs - in front of the boys!
That was downright cruel. It showed me that Kate took pleasure in causing them pain. It was twisted. What mother takes away her child's birthday treat, that they made themselves, just because they didn't eat everything on their plate? Answer: A truly vile one - aka Kate Krieder. (No matter what you think of Kendra - can you imagine her doing something like that to Hank, Jr.?)
I saw an article on MSNBC on CWS and it didn't paint Kate in the best of lights. There's a survey with the article. Whose team were/are you on (something like that) and the choices are Kate, Kendra, Neither. Kendra is leading Kate 69% to 11% with 19% on niether's team. I guess maybe Kate wasn't the big draw after all.
AuntieAnn said... 75
Did you notice how she knocked back that shot when she was out with Kendra's friends? She's no stranger to a night on the town and drinking. I still say this show will not further her chances of returning to tv in any way, shape or form. (haha thanks Sheri and Upstater). No one likes a bully and she is a bully to her own children.
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I did notice that - it looked like tequila and, whatever it was, she new exactly what to do with it. Didn't even grimace after it went down and was then shown drinking what looked like wine.
@Terri, Well said. Jon did so much for Kate, just like Hank was doing. I do believe Kate has a little bit of the green jealousy monster coming out. Poor Katie, she realizes how much Jon helped her, and he even asked her constantly "How can I help you" like she trained him to do and now she does it all by herself with her hired help. POOR KATIE. Wah, Wah. But it turns out she really does want a husband, but now it's too late.
Perhaps this has been addressed, but the more I reflect on the CWS show last night, the more convinced I am Kate may net a show out of this. Rating mean profits, and ABC got the ratings last night. Why did people tune in? I think there is curiosity about Kate and how she has further morphed herself from a mother of 8 to a Hollywood wannabe, and I really don't think she is fooling too many people. She wants fame so badly it is palatable, she is desperate to get it all back.
The network may have used the dinner with Hank to test the waters for a dating show for Kate. It fed right in to Kate's storyline of wanting
to find someone, for the sake of her kids of course!
If Kate didn't know who she was switching with and what she would be doing, then why did she have the perfect dress to wear and go bar hopping in and the perfect golf outfit of a polo shirt and the longer style Bermuda shorts(not Kate's normal summer wardrobe). She also had a bikini packed.
The only reason Kate is a "hands on" "stay at home mom" is because she can't afford her help anymore, she has no job and no place to go to. No one wants to give her any gigs, so therefore she is stuck at home in her mansion with her robot children.
KK said on twitter....
''Today, @bullyville Shoka has decided 2 join me in my stand against bullies.We 'stick' 2gether....''
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Then she shows a photo of the treat....
''The treat in question is known as a “bully stick” or “pizzle stick,” and is made from the raw, dried penis of a bull.''
The raw dried penis of a bull? Cripes! It's not enough that KK emasculated Jon, but is now feeding the dog the results of an emasculated bull?
Somewhere In Time said... 68
Has Kate mentioned Jamie at all or posted pictures since the RV fiasco? I thought Jamie was her BFF. Has Deanna taken over the role of her best friend?
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Jamie is still in the picture. She drives down from Michigan when Kate needs deep cleaning done at the house. Kate posted a picture of
Jamie S-T-R-E-T-C-H-I-N-G to get the grease and dirt off Kate's stove hood. I don't know how to link to it for you. Someone does.
I bet Kendra would have had a blast with Jamie instead of zombie Deanna. (but Jamie probably wouldn't have kept her mouth shut about
the real things that happen there so she wouldn't be a good choice)
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I was thinking the exact same thing about Ashley. Plus, the kids know and love Ashley and probably would have relaxed at least a bit.
She's just a control freak with delusions of grandeur with an out of control ego fed by 6 even more delusional people who think it's ever
so cool that she exploits her children to maintain a lifestyle she could never have had without them in the first place. 48
AMEN. Great description of killjoy katie.
I did not watch - I find the entire concept of swapping spouses disgusting, never mind what it may do to the children involved, Additionally, I cannot stand kk. I did see a picture of the shirt she wore on The View. That was more than enough.
Kendra owns her past and Hank must be aware of it. I'm glad that she and Hank have a strong marriage and an adorable and clearly loved son.
After reading the descriptions and comments here my heart is breaking or the G children. As much as kk clearly hates it, I am so glad they have their father in their lives.
Jamie is still in the picture. She drives down from Michigan when Kate needs deep cleaning done at the house. Kate posted a picture of
Jamie S-T-R-E-T-C-H-I-N-G to get the grease and dirt off Kate's stove hood. I don't know how to link to it for you. Someone does.
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You're right. Thanks. I forgot about that one. Is that the last time Jamie was mentioned? I wonder who she'll take along on her birthday bash this year.
"I know that you and your fellow posters like to take credit for getting the PA law changed, but that's not Rep. Murt's version of events."
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And I know him very well and I do know that it was because of the persistence of many who were concerned about the child labor laws and how PA kids were affected, particularly the Gosselins, that this is what kicked everything into motion.
westcoastie said... 81
''If I missed someone mentioning this, apologies:
When Kendra and Deanna went to lunch with the friend (Julie?) did anyone else notice beneath her photo it said "Kendra's Friend". Not Kate's. Not Deanna's. KENDRA'S.''
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I missed that. Good catch, westcoastie! I do remember wondering who this ''Julie'' was because KK had never mentioned a Julie. Kendra's friend makes a lot more sense, and once again makes it clear that KK has no friends.
Here's Kate and her frig.
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And Kate getting her makeup done.
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Did anyone else think it was out of place for Kate to tell Kendra that Hank Jr needs to have chores? She had no right to do that when her own children did not have chores at that age. Mady stated they started when the tups were 5 years old. At 2-3 years old, I was not that concerned about getying chores assigned or drilled it into someone's head that it had to happen right at that age. I was more focused on meeting my family's needs than making sure someone was 'pulling his share' around the house. I think that should have benn left up to Hank and Kendra to make these decisons.
Also it was lame of Kate to call KendrA irresponible. Kendra, herself, said the Gosselin children had too much responsiblity, too many chores asdigned to them and she was crying about them working like slaves because she wanted them to be kids, not running the house by themselves. If it's too much for Jate, then all by means, hire a housekeeper to take the load off the kids.
Lots of people contacted both Murt and Paul Peterson. It's a little disappointing he didn't mention that but that's okay I don't think the point was to seek recognition for most people. I would note that in a radio interview Jodi did after the hearings they specifically mentioned this blog and quoted a post I wrote discussing how PA has a conflict of interest in protecting minors and if I remember this correctly the radio announcer's quote was "boy did they nail it." It was a good moment and it was clear they were following us.
The raw dried penis of a bull? Cripes! It's not enough that KK emasculated Jon, but is now feeding the dog the results of an emasculated bull?
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They are also used to make canes. That must be one heck of a bull. ;)
Remona bully sticks are actually an excellent dog chew. You don't have the same choking hazards and digestion problems as you do with raw hide or greenies.
My computer froze when I hit publish, so I hope this isn't a duplicate.....
westcoastie said... 81
''If I missed someone mentioning this, apologies:
When Kendra and Deanna went to lunch with the friend (Julie?) did anyone else notice beneath her photo it said "Kendra's Friend". Not Kate's. Not Deanna's. KENDRA'S.''
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I missed that. Good catch, westcoastie! I do remember wondering who this ''Julie'' was because KK had never mentioned a Julie. Kendra's friend makes a lot more sense, and once again makes it clear that KK has no friends.
Lisa King, Washington Times, wrote a good article about the swap. Excerpt:
"I understand that Gosselin has to make a living, but treating her children like a commodity is inexcusable. Any semblance of normalcy for the children was surrendered long ago. This latest stunt is sure to lead all of them to the therapist’s couch at some point in their over-exposed young lives."
http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/tv-den/2013/feb/26/tv-tonight-kate-gosselin-and-kendra-wilkinson-cele/#ixzz2M98l7833
I just watched the episode. I feel like the reason Deanna is now Kate's BFF is because Deanna is definitely a Type B personality. Very bland. Probably agrees with everything Kate says.
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I think those who are commenting that she will get a show out of this are right. I've never seen anything like it. Just when you think she's gone, she resurrects herself. I keep remembering the lines from "Halloween":
Tommy: Was it the boogeyman?
Lindsey: I'm scared!
Laurie: There's nothing to be scared of, now get changed.
Tommy: Are you sure? How?
Laurie: I killed him...
Tommy: You can't kill the boogeyman!
Did anyone else notice that none of the tups were asked about sports or any other after school activities? Kate does not let them do any kind of school outings nor do they do any kind of outdoor sports. I feel so sorry for what these children are missing.
I forgot to add to my previous comment.
The show was really boring and I felt badly about Kate's children. They seemed so depressed. I can't imagine children this old acting like this. It's like the life has been sucked out of them. Especially Cara.
Marie
Lots of people contacted both Murt and Paul Peterson. It's a little disappointing he didn't mention that but that's okay I don't think the point was to seek recognition for most people.
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Of course they did. At the time there were so many people who e-mailed Representative Murt or called him, and who were so impressed that he took the time to respond to each one of them. He listened and got the job done.
Did you notice how she knocked back that shot when she was out with Kendra's friends?
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I did notice that - it looked like tequila and, whatever it was, she new exactly what to do with it
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I guess lemon and salt wold have been TOO obvious, Or TOO unladylike, ha, ha.
@ 84 deserves repeating:
"I saw an article on MSNBC on CWS and it didn't paint Kate in the best of lights. There's a survey with the article. Whose team were/are you
on (something like that) and the choices are Kate, Kendra, Neither. Kendra is leading Kate 69% to 11% with 19% on neither's team. I guess maybe Kate wasn't the big draw after all."
Too bad, so sad. NOT.
revisionist, 82 said...
I know that you and your fellow posters like to take credit for getting the PA law changed, but that's not Rep. Murt's version of events.
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I never took credit for anything. I didn't say THIS blog. I said blogs. Plural. And there were quite a few. Nice try, but I happen to know for a fact that the posters on various blogs (PLURAL) in addition to threads aimed at the need for changes in PA child labor laws, did, in fact, play a part in getting the ball rolling on the need for rewriting the antiquated laws.
I even remember people posting here so encouraged that Murt had personally wrote then or even called them. Any worries he might just be doing this for publicity were eased when we saw how sincere he was. If anything the idea that he noticed something wrong with what he saw on TV on his own gives him even more credibility because that suggests this is something he sincerely believed to be a problem and not something he just got behind to appease some vocal constituents. He believed there was a problem first himself and that speaks volumes. We weren't crazy. Murt saw what we saw.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 98
Lots of people contacted both Murt and Paul Peterson. It's a little disappointing he didn't mention that but that's okay I don't think the point was to seek recognition for most people. I would note that in a radio interview Jodi did after the hearings they specifically mentioned this blog and quoted a post I wrote discussing how PA has a conflict of interest in protecting minors and if I remember this correctly the radio announcer's quote was "boy did they nail it." It was a good moment and it was clear they were following us.
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Of course people contacted Murt...after he got the ball rolling and they knew he was interested in the issue. My point is that the impetus for Murt's involvement was not this blog or other blogs as has been claimed multiple times here.
If it wasn't about recognition then why was the mention of your post a "good moment?"
Moon Over Miami said... 104
I think those who are commenting that she will get a show out of this are right. I've never seen anything like it. Just when you think she's gone, she resurrects herself.
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ha! ABC can have her and then make her trade places with Octomom Nadya. I'd pay good money to see her carried out in a strait jacket after spending a couple of weeks trying to reform that brood.
It was a good moment because we were all finally getting on the same page. It was a good moment because many more people found this blog and read our documentation of the abuse. It was a good moment because changes were happening thanks to people banding together. Hard to believe but not everyone is focused on how they can get famous.
Is there a reason my comment wasn't posted?
Hank senior does have a job. He works and when he comes home he takes care of little Hank and the house. He's not just a stay at home dad.
At the end of the show when they were at the table talking Kendra and Hank both smiled and nodded and agreed with Kate about Kendra being more involved in doing more things around the house. They didn't look at her funny and they didn't act like they hated her.
If as you say Jon has 50/50 custody there is no way that Kate would have been able to keep those kids for more than a week and keep Jon from knowing what they were doing.
You can't have it both ways either he has 50/50 custody and he knows what's going on or he doesn't
I personally don't think she will get a show out of this. Even though the ratings were good, the show wasn't all about her and the kids. Plus the ratings were about the same as the premiere of the show last season, just slightly better. I could be wrong, but I don't think she'd get a show based on the ratings of one show only.
Let Kate and her sheeple bask in the glory-they got their update show. Only time will tell if anything will come out of it, but I think they will be disappointed.
The segment of the show posted on here that I was able to stomach before I gave up was the most boring stuff of any kate has done in her "career in the business". And someone should explain to Mady that when there is an adult in charge, 'she' is not the mother and does not need to be the one telling the tups what to do or not do, and also when to shut her smart mouth. The comments she made to Kendra, more often than not, were inappropriate coming from a 12 yr old to an adult who was in charge. This show was NOT funny OR entertaining on either end and the eye rolling looks from all the adults involved were ridiculous. Still don't understand how kate qualified for a show entitled 'Celebrity Wife Swap' in any way.
I don't give my bully the bully sticks any more because they STINK when being chewed! We give him deer and/or elk antlers. They satisfy his need to chew and are quite safe. IMO Greenies should be banned.
As far as Kate getting her own show, I don't really think it will happen. Ideas can be pitched from now until the kids are out of the house but they've got to be able to get sponsors and the show would have to get great reviews from focus groups. One night of decent ratings does not a career make.
Alrighty then said... 115
''If as you say Jon has 50/50 custody there is no way that Kate would have been able to keep those kids for more than a week and keep Jon from knowing what they were doing.
You can't have it both ways either he has 50/50 custody and he knows what's going on or he doesn't ''
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No way? What a strange thing to say! The way KK lies, there are a jillion ways she could have the kids for a solid week, and Jon have them the next week. We DO know that she forced the children to keep their mouths shut, and say nothing to anyone, including their father. I can think of four or five ways she could pull it off, without even trying, and I have no doubt that KK, the lying liar who lies, could think of double that in the blink of an eye!!
there is no way that Kate would have been able to keep those kids for more than a week and keep Jon from knowing what they were doing.
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Well that's silly. Plenty of parents with joint custody don't even speak to each other much less tell the other parent anything that is going on. It also can be arranged in a multitude of different ways and it's also quite common for one parent to say hey I have this going on could I keep the kids for an extra day this week and we'll make it up later? As in happens every day.
Was it really more than a week? I got the impression from the tweets it was more like 5 days of filming, which is the standard time frame for most one hour episodes. They make it seem like it's often much longer than it really is.
I give my dog a bully stick maybe once or twice a year as a special treat. He loves them and they are safe. He doesn't get any other food chews, too dangerous. But I don't tell people what they are, and they DO smell nasty. Frankly, they smell like what they are. They make his breath smell like elephant poop.
ha! ABC can have her and then make her trade places with Octomom Nadya. I'd pay good money to see her carried out in a strait jacket after spending a couple of weeks trying to reform that brood.
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What I really would like to see is for her live in an Amish home for a week...not necessarily trade places with an Amish woman, but just to be there and see what a parent goes through with eight kids, all different ages at home, with no electricity, no washing machines, dryers, meat slicers, bread machines, French yogurt makers, pink iPhones, three cars, and so on. I'd like to see her hang clothes on the washlines that extend from the house to the barn, get up at 4 a.m. to help milk the cows, do the daily baking, and canning, putting up jellies, have breakfast on the table for nine people, and NOT go back to bed. She then would have to stop the daily work at noon to cook a hot dinner (dinner is at noon) for her husband, and then go back to housework, making sure that supper is on the table when he comes in.
No television, no tweeting, just kids crawling around in cloth diapers. Rugs dirty? No vacuum cleaner -- she'd take the rugs outside to beat them, and she'd take her bath by heating water over the coal stove, and then bathing right there in the kitchen. Can't you see her, in the middle of the night in zero degree temperature, going to the outhouse, or using the chamber pot under the bed (and then having to empty all of them in the morning)?
Yes, that's one show I would watch, although she'd never make it through the first day.
I also don't think much will come of this. Look at the Network lineups. Remember those awful days of writer's strikes and cheap executives where every night was some different god awful reality show? Now when it comes to reality we mostly see competitions shows and scant small offers like this one. There really aren't much slots available. Most of the reality shows that hold those slots have been around for years and Kate isn't elligibel for--Biggest loser, the music shows, Survivor, celeb apprentice which I doubt she'll ever be on, etc.
You can find reality more her style buried on cable somewhere but they really are losing their novelty too. Even most of that is now competition shows like all these model/decorating things. Thank god, it's all about scripted TV now. Networks are looking for the next big addictive melodrama to fill their slots, not reality. This doesn't bode well for Kate. As someone else said, too bad so sad. NOT! I think, finally, reality is on the way out. It is only going to get worse for her. A few of the major really good reality shows will probably stick around for awhile, like Amazing Race, but everything else is going away. Finally!
This writer wrote a great recap of the show-she certainly does have Kate's number.
http://www.crushable.com/2013/02/27/entertainment/kate-gosselin-kendra-wilkinson-celebrity-wife-swap/
Best excerpt:
"When people finally tired of her act, she disappeared from our lives. And things were good. Then she re-emerged last night on the show and reminded us just how qualified she is at leading her very own pity parade."
Decisions Decisions
Children First said... 56
sheri, 48...How on earth are they going to handle big choices and decisions if they never practice with small ones?
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What concerns me is that in school the kids must make choices and decisions, no matter how small those choices may be. It's all a part of growing up and socialization, and with each grade level, those become more difficult but they are encouraged to take part in the decision-making process. Hopefully they are learning this at school. However, what a mixed message they get on the homefront when they are not allowed to make choices and are under the supervision of a control freak. Those kids are going to be so messed up that it's going to result in emotional and psychological problems in the not too distant future.
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Not learning how to make decisions could also lead to an inability to make decisions, which for some people can be debilitating.
If it wasn't about recognition then why was the mention of your post a "good moment?"
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Well, heck. Good moments can come out of the blue. I was pleased as punch this blog got a mention, but certainly did not expect it. Sometimes unexpected acknowledgements just feel good. Nothing wrong with that.
Just wanted to make one point about Kate swapping with Kendra. On all other episodes of Swapping Wives, the children are left with their father. So although they are left to deal with a strange mother, at least they have one parent to help them deal with it.
In Kate's situation, they had nobody! I'm not counting Deanna. It's sad they had to deal with this situation without their Dad to help them.
That's why I think this was especially cruel to Kate's children.
NJGal51 said (118) Where do you get antlers?
barbee said... 117
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I agree with you about Mady but also the other girls. They were bit rude or sarcastic to Kendra on her first day, and one said ' you seem confused.'Another was rude about the spilled tacos. Also the expression on their faces was unpleasnat and smirking...kinda like their mom's....the boys not much expression & little to say at all.
If as you say Jon has 50/50 custody there is no way that Kate would have been able to keep those kids for more than a week and keep Jon from knowing what they were doing.
You can't have it both ways either he has 50/50 custody and he knows what's going on or he doesn't
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A few days ago one of the posters here checked out timelines about when Kate was leaving and when she returned to PA. I think it was discovered she was gone less than a week, IIRC.
Can somebody recall those dates? The reason we were concerned was that many of us thought she would be filming for 2 weeks, a long time for her children to be with a stranger and ditto
for Hank Jr.
Frankly, they smell like what they are.
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I can't remember the last time I smelled a bull's dried up penis. It's been so long. Refresh my memory. Exactly what DO they smell like? ;-)
NCIS got 20.9 million viewers and CWS got just a little over 7 million viewers. I would not call that a ratings success because NCIS totally blew CWS away!
barbee #117, I agree that Mady needed to put her mouth in check, but how else was she going to get face time? She's little Kate and knows how to work it.
One night of decent ratings does not a career make.
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Tell that to Milo. She's in her usual orgasmic ecstasy:
miloandjack
@Kateplusmy8 I KNEW this would happen! "Celebrity Wife Swap' gets biggest ratings ever w/Kate Gosselin"..Over 7million watched..beats NCIS!
She's also going nuts again over Kate finding a man...a BIG man:
miloandjack
@Kateplusmy8 So I gathered fr a tweet last nite that Hank, Sr. & lil Hank met ur kids? What did ur kids think of his SIZE? #BigGuy :)
miloandjack
@msgoody2shoes21 @Kateplusmy8 Kate said she told kids she was goin 2start dating a 6foot something state trooper! LOL
I have to laugh reading Milo's tweets. I think she has some problem with mathematics.
miloandjack
@Kateplusmy8 I KNEW this would happen! "Celebrity Wife Swap' gets biggest ratings ever w/Kate Gosselin"..Over 7million watched..beats NCIS!
NCIS had over 20 million viewers. How does that mean that CWS beat it?
And she really should be careful what she tweets, this one made me giggle:
miloandjack
@Kateplusmy8 So I gathered fr a tweet last nite that Hank, Sr. & lil Hank met ur kids? What did ur kids think of his SIZE?
I've been thinking about the way KK doesn't allow the children to make the slightest decision about anything, and the harm it does to the children...not only now, but how it could harm them in the future. I agree that her ironclad control of the children down to every minute of the day is a bad thing for the children. However, they aren't under her control 24/7 any more. The children go to school, where they treated as 'normal' children. They have their time with Jon, where they ARE allowed to be kids...something that has been seen by a poster on this blog. I loved Kendra for crying that the children had so much work to do and no time to be kids.
I believe the children have those blank faces, and robotic behavior ONLY when they are with their mother. They've learned the only way to get through their time with her is to just turn off feelings and be the little slaves she has forced them to be. Abused children learn to adapt in order to survive. It breaks your heart that they have to behave that way when with their mother, but they DO know that they can behave as 'normal' children when they're not with the abuser!
Not only that but like we said, Kendra works. Kendra supports the family.
Yes, Kendra works, but Hank does also. He's co-owner/partner of a new, large fitness center used by many pro-athletes and celebs in the LA area. They probably contribute pretty equally to the family income especially when you consider their show, Kendra on Top features both of them.
Kate is a twit said... 123
''This writer wrote a great recap of the show-she certainly does have Kate's number.''
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She may have KK's number, but I sure don't agree with her jabs at Jon. When she said: ''If she comes off as anal-retentive and unloving it’s only because she’s has to be to maintain order in that house. It’s not like Jon Gosselin ever made her life easier. The show made that much clear.'', my jaw dropped. What show was she watching? The show made it clear that JON was the one that did all the work, and KK did to Jon exactly what CWS made clear that KK is doing to their children.
MJ yes I see that the point being it's not like Kendra is sitting around tanning and getting her nails done and all Hank does is pamper her. She pulls her weight when it comes to supporting the family. If anything it's more compelling that Hank works because she COULD just sit around and let him support them, but she steps up to do her part too. And how does Kate know Hank isn't similarly pampered by Kendra? It goes both ways.
She's jealous it's so obvious.
The same thing happened giving Kate credit for the ratings on DWTS.
It was all because of Kate and not because of Erin with her large sports following, Aiden with his large soap opera following and/or Pam with whatever you want to call her following. All those people draw huge ratings.
I don't doubt people tuned in for Kate but I also think a lot of people tuned in to see many others. It wasn't a throw away season, they had some decent talent that year and people tuned in. But of course for some reason Kate happily takes the credit.
Children learn what they observe. There is an entire wall hanging about it available somewhere. Parents can TELL their kids A, B and C, but if the parents actually DO R, S and T instead, guess which one the kids will pick up? Kate is rude and as much as she tells her kids publicly to be nice, they have picked up her rude manner. She may tell them not to roll their eyes, but every time she rolls her own eyes, she's saying that it is acceptable.
I'm sure the school has taught them much better, and I'm willing to bet that at school these kids are polite to their teachers. In their own home to guests, they may need some work. Or maybe it was just because the cameras were there that they decided to rude it up a little. Who knows?
All I know is that if I ever spoke rudely to any adult, my mother would have been quickly happying me up.
http://www.crushable.com/2013/02/27/entertainment/kate-gosselin-kendra-wilkinson-celebrity-wife-swap/
Yep, even tho she clearly spends little time in Kateworld, she did watch the whole crapfest last night and has Kate's number. It is truly amazing that KG could criticize Kendra and Hank's parenting, what an imbecile. Kid should not be in school, hers were gone as soon as she could get them on a bus. The depth of her hypocrisy continues to amaze.
So now what? A whole lot of nothing is penciled on her agenda.
It’s not like Jon Gosselin ever made her life easier. The show made that much clear.'', my jaw dropped. What show was she watching?
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Certainly not the one I was watching, in which all Jon did was try to clean up that sociopath's messes. It was a full time job. Even AFTER the show he was cleaning up after her. Remember the Em Tanner fiasco and Em said Jon called her to try to smooth things over? He didn't announce that and I doubt he knew Em would share that.
I've noticed that's part of a B-type personality, forever cleaning up.
Just a small point about Hank Jr: Kate made a lot of criticisms about the fact that he goes to preschool, but he's an only child. It's good for him to have a little time with other kids his age.
Also, did anyone notice in her manual that the kids have chores to do right when they get home AND after dinner? That's ridiculous.
Why can't they have a small snack and do their homework, then get washed up for dinner, eat, do some age appropriate chores, then have some down time before the MARCH TO THE SHOWERS AND THEN BED AT 7:30 THANK GOODNESS.
If Jon had been at home with the kids, I think he and Kendra would have had a blast together. I think Jon would get along with Kendra and Hank and I could see them hanging out.
Just a small point about Hank Jr: Kate made a lot of criticisms about the fact that he goes to preschool, but he's an only child. It's good for him to have a little time with other kids his age.
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Why does she care? I doubt she thought that her putting the kids through the pre-kindergarten program essentially holding them back was anyone's business. Would she want someone telling her she can't do that? People are welcome to state their opinion about education that happens all the time and we SHOULD discuss education, but it's quite another matter to tell an individual parent what they should do with their child's education. Buzz off.
I just recently heard a report that bully sticks are contaminated with E. coli. I forget the percentage but they tested sticks in the US and Canada. I also read that they're higher on calories than most owners realize.
I am doing Joy's happy dance. The new season of Psych starts tonight. It's also the season Daniel of Top Chef so we get to see who wins AND there's a new episode of Criminal Minds on. Thank God for TiVo because they're all on at the same time here! Watch one, tape two...now I've just got to decide which one to watch.
KW, and that probably would have gotten blockbuster ratings, because people would tune in to see Kate and Jon back on TV again.
Had she kept things amicable with Jon I bet he might have considered it, if only to be the parent there with the kids as opposed to some hanger on sheeple these kids clearly barely know. In the process of trying to cut off everyone who ever stood in her way, she screwed herself over.
My dog doesn't have a weight problem so I'm not worried about two bully sticks a year but e.coli??? Oh God! It seems there's nothing you can give your pet. For awhile I was hearing about pets dying left and right from Greenies.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 139
MJ yes I see that the point being it's not like Kendra is sitting around tanning and getting her nails done and all Hank does is pamper her. She pulls her weight when it comes to supporting the family. If anything it's more compelling that Hank works because she COULD just sit around and let him support them, but she steps up to do her part too. And how does Kate know Hank isn't similarly pampered by Kendra? It goes both ways.
She's jealous it's so obvious.
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Did you read Kendra's household manual? She pretty much describes herself as a pampered princess who spends most of her time playing while Hank and the housekeeper shoulder most of the responsibility for the household. That's not Kate's misguided perception based on jealousy, it's Kendra's own description of herself. For example:
"My role is to be a princess and enjoy life. Our nanny, Rosa, takes care of everything else. She cooks, cleans, does the grocery shopping and takes care of Little Hank...My only daily responsibility is to take Little Hank to and from preschool, but sometimes Rosa or Hank will take care of it for me. Outside of those tasks, I spend most of my time doing physical activities and hanging out with my friends."
"I'm not much of a morning person, but my husband Hank is. He gets up every day at 6am to go to work and will be there until about 2:30pm. Our nanny, Rosa, meets Hank at the door and he hands off the baby monitor, then Rosa waits for Little Hank to wake up. She takes over as soon as Hank leaves.
I'll slowly wake up at 7:30am (or later, depending on how late I've been out the night before)."
Did you read Kendra's household manual? She pretty much describes herself as a pampered princess who spends most of her time playing while Hank and the housekeeper shoulder most of the responsibility for the household. That's not Kate's misguided perception based on jealousy, it's Kendra's own description of herself.
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Interesting, since from all the projects she has done, including her current project, we know for a fact she works and works hard and works a lot.
I'm glad she perceives her life as very relaxed and carefree. I think everyone who works should feel that way. I'm guessing that just means you're happy with your job if that's how you view things. Or that you're basically an optimistic person. Or that you don't spend your time obsessing over how much work you're actually doing. With Kate you would think she's a first year associate trying to bill 4,000 hours the way she talks when she works. The drama.
I don't know why Greenies haven't been banned! Can you imagine if a baby toy did that? When you start personally knowing people whose pets have died it's an issue.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 149
Did you read Kendra's household manual? She pretty much describes herself as a pampered princess who spends most of her time playing while Hank and the housekeeper shoulder most of the responsibility for the household. That's not Kate's misguided perception based on jealousy, it's Kendra's own description of herself.
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Interesting, since from all the projects she has done, including her current project, we know for a fact she works and works hard and works a lot.
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Right, your perception of her life as a complete stranger to it is more accurate than her own description of it. Got it.
Their spirits have been broken. They look bone tired and weary. What a sad lot they were with the deadbolt on their tree house and the key behind another deadbolt.
Tweet-le - deer antlers are becoming more popular and a lot of pet stores are starting to carry them. Our local feed store carries them in a variety of sizes from tiny to extra large. They're not cheap but they last a really long time and I've got a strong chewer. The good thing with them is there are never any sharp edges or big chinks to swallow. As they chew the antler crumbles and since it's calcium it's good for them. You can also get them on Amazon.
Right, your perception of her life as a complete stranger to it is more accurate than her own description of it. Got it.
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It's not a perception. It's just a fact. Go look at IMDB. She's done no less than 49 public appearances in the relative short time since she's been famous. She's been an actor in six different projects. She has played herself in her reality show for countless more episodes, as well as three other reality shows including DWTS. She even has production credits including producer and executive producer.
How did all those credits get on there? Magic? She must have worked at some point!
I loathe this "woman" and "her" entire brand! said... 128
NCIS got 20.9 million viewers and CWS got just a little over 7 million viewers. I would not call that a ratings success because NCIS totally blew CWS away!
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Good point! But do you think the sheeple will agree? I have visions of Milo starting an email/twitter/write-in campaign for Katie Irene to get her own show. Interesting that Kendra did not lobby for Katie to be on the new diving show.
On another note, there are no "gaps" in Kendra's resume either, like Kate has a year and a half gap.
fidosmommy 130--from both Kate's and Kendra's tweets at the time, it looked liked they filmed from Oct.16-20. On the 16th Kate tweeted she was working on a fun project, and Kendra tweeted that she arrived at her hotel in Philly. On the 20th, Kate tweeted that she was home-Kendra tweeted that she was home on the 21st.
They must have done the round table filming on the 20th.
So tops, it was 5 days of filming.
I have to laugh reading Milo's tweets. I think she has some problem with mathematics.
miloandjack
@Kateplusmy8 I KNEW this would happen! "Celebrity Wife Swap' gets biggest ratings ever w/Kate Gosselin"..Over 7million watched..beats NCIS!
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Lol, I saw that, too. S/he also just claimed those ratings were the best of the night. Definitely a math comprehension problem ;)
I don't see how you can get the budget for a 44 minute episode that requires a production schedule longer than five days. Look it up, five days is as standard as apple pie when it comes to one hour episodes. Half hour episodes also get five days with filming live on Friday nights. You're told get it done in five days or you can't do it. If it's not Jon's time it seems pretty easy to me to hide just five measly from him. Plus, the kids weren't part of the round table were they, so they could have gone to Jon's then him none the wiser, making it only four days.
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Right, your perception of her life as a complete stranger to it is more accurate than her own description of it. Got it.
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It's not a perception. It's just a fact. Go look at IMDB. She's done no less than 49 public appearances in the relative short time since she's been famous. She's been an actor in six different projects. She has played herself in her reality show for countless more episodes, as well as three other reality shows including DWTS. She even has production credits including producer and executive producer.
How did all those credits get on there? Magic? She must have worked at some point!
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Many of those credits are not recent, so you can't use those to say she's the one supporting her husband and therefore deserves to be a self-described pampered princess. While she was filming some of those, her husband was getting slammed around on a football field, so it's not as if he were slacking for years while she worked her ass off.
I have nothing against Kendra. She seems like a sweet person, but by her own admission is not a very involved parent, not because she is busy working because she is busy playing. As often happens around here, she is being idealized because she is viewed as the polar opposite of Kate, and that gets her a free pass.
Many of those credits are not recent, so you can't use those to say she's the one supporting her husband and therefore deserves to be a self-described pampered princess. While she was filming some of those, her husband was getting slammed around on a football field, so it's not as if he were slacking for years while she worked her ass off.
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I never said she deserves to be pampered. I think it's a little silly. I just said it's not as if she's contributed NOTHING to this marriage and sits around doing nothing all day. With all those credits to her name, including a CURRENT T.V. series, she is hardly not contributing.
In any case, I think this couple should do what works for THEM. No that's not how I'd want a relationship to go for me personally, but heck if I care if that's what another couple wants. If that means Hank wants to pamper her why should Kate get to say he can't? He's a grown man. If he doesn't want to pamper her he doesn't have to. None of Kate's business. The point being it was very judgmental and rude for Kate to question it, although in fairness, I'm sure she was encouraged to speak her mind. Kendra and Hank were kind and polite letting her criticize them and taking it to heart. She didn't deserve such patience. She deserved a big "you don't know what you're talking about, butt OUT and F-U."
Kate's now trying to do damage control with Milo's help. Hmm, was this pre-arranged?
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack
@Kateplusmy8 Im sure Kate had good reasons4havin tree house locked. Unsupervised kids N there could get hurt! #Fall Not a control issue!
Kateplusmy8
@MiloandJack not to mention it's big enough for someone2go in and live in--creepy! They know where key is but didn't feel like running2house
Wouldn't falling off the stairs be a problem too? What does keeping the door locked have to do with falling, and what does the size of it have to do with anything?
Yes, Milo, it IS a control issue.
Jon knew. Kate was tweeting about doing something at the time. Dropping hints. Cara and Mady are probably in regular communication with their father. They are 12 years old and have phones. It's unrealistic to think that Jon didn't know.
One good thing about this show, maybe the grandparents got to see their grandchildren, if only on film. Sad looking lot that they are.
Marie
Wouldn't falling off the stairs be a problem too? What does keeping the door locked have to do with falling, and what does the size of it have to do with anything?
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LOL. What??? I'm with you, what does keeping a key have to do with falling?? You could still fall once you have the key. Hahaha!!! It's not like they are five years old and shouldn't go there.
And really Kate, so full of yourself. Like some bum is going to come along and decide to live in your tree house. This isn't L.A.
NJGal51 said (155)
Thanks a bunch for the info. My dog loves to chew but I can't find anything that doesn't worry me, either what's in them or choking. This sounds like the answer!!
And even assuming he said Kate was doing something (could you share those tweets you claim exist?) that doesn't mean he knew his kids were involved. Kate could have told him she was going out of town for a project and that Deanna was staying with the kids. She could have easily left out the part about the children filming.
I see nothing unrealistic about Kate telling the kids don't tell your dad under penalty of severeness. We've seen it before. This is just how she is.
Plus, these kids have a long history of being told to be secretive about their projects. They know how.
I don't know if anyone published it yet. I'm sure someone has. Just in case the ratings from E online are over 7 million. Looks like she might be coming back. EWWWW!
Good grief.
What do you think Kate took from the CWS experience? Not that she needs to loosen up or that she should try to reduce the controls on the kids a bit and let them be kids, but that her life is soooo busy! How introspective.
@05Sherry_1D
@Kateplusmy8 what was the most eye opening experience for you while on wife swap? #myfriendswilldieifyoureply
@Kateplusmy8
@05Sherry_1D just how busy my life is (finally had X to think about it lol)&how I would love adult companionship! :) hi to your friends2:)
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Many of those credits are not recent, so you can't use those to say she's the one supporting her husband and therefore deserves to be a self-described pampered princess. While she was filming some of those, her husband was getting slammed around on a football field, so it's not as if he were slacking for years while she worked her ass off.
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I never said she deserves to be pampered. I think it's a little silly. I just said it's not as if she's contributed NOTHING to this marriage and sits around doing nothing all day. With all those credits to her name, including a CURRENT T.V. series, she is hardly not contributing.
In any case, I think this couple should do what works for THEM. No that's not how I'd want a relationship to go for me personally, but heck if I care if that's what another couple wants. If that means Hank wants to pamper her why should Kate get to say he can't? He's a grown man. If he doesn't want to pamper her he doesn't have to. None of Kate's business. The point being it was very judgmental and rude for Kate to question it, although in fairness, I'm sure she was encouraged to speak her mind. Kendra and Hank were kind and polite letting her criticize them and taking it to heart. She didn't deserve such patience. She deserved a big "you don't know what you're talking about, butt OUT and F-U."
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I totally agree that if it works for them, that's all that matters. And I'm sure you're right that Kate was encouraged to speak her mind. She's not a diplomatic person and doesn't know how to couch things in the most appropriate manner. Kendra was equally opinionated about Kate's over-regimented household, but her tone was more palatable. Plus, you don't want her to butt out because you agree with her!
Since the whole show revolves around people butting into each others' lives, once you sign on to do that you kind of lose the right to tell people to butt out.
Jon closed his twitter account sometime in the beginning of August, after the story came out about him not paying child support.
Does anyone know if there was a PB sighting in all of this? Haven't heard a word about him in a long while.
Why doesn't Kendra get any credit for the ratings. She has well over 2 million twitter followers. She is going to be on Splash and Kendra on Top has been renewed. I can't wait to watch Splash but I haven't heard who else is going to be on there.
I think Milo took a 5 hr energy shot, lol. S/he's blowing up her own twitter feed.
Or else s/he's getting paid a bonus!
Yes. Many people have been on these shows and talked about other's faults or perceived faults in a way that is respectful and not antagonistic and they've even done it without the eye rolling. And many people have done it Kate's way. I don't like it Kate's way, I don't get entertainment value out of it, and it is a big reason I hate most reality shows. I don't find jerks interesting. Moreover, we've seen that this is how she is on her own reality show and twitter too, just basically a nasty person and not enjoyable. The whole thing is sad. She has no friends because of her own behavior, not because she has eight kids.
kateplusmy8
@cboso @Emeril tfal breadmaker. Can get online at bed bath &beyond! It's the best and the 1 you saw on my ep of #CelebrityWifeSwap last pm:)
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MY ep. Not THE ep, or OUR ep, but MY. It has to be about HER.
And yes, Kate, locking a tree house is going to keep all of the Wernersville vagrants away. If someone wanted to live in your tree house, don't you think that they'd be able to pick or break the lock?
You've always said you have a super-duper security system, and a crack security team, so why worry?
The cast of Splash:
Kareem Abdul Jabbar, Louis Anderson, Kendra, Drake Bell, Chuy Bravo, rory Bushfield, Nicole Eggert, Keisha Knight-Pulliam, Ndamukong Suh football player, Katherine Webb Miss Alabama.
http://beta.abc.go.com/shows/splash/blogs/news/meet-the-cast
Where have we seen it before that the kids deliberately kept something like this from their dad? I can't recall. Were the kids much younger ?
Marie
someone on twitter ask Kate "what's next TV or movies?" Kate's answer "all in good time my dear. would love to try movies!" Wonder if the week away with family/friends will be a tv special update???????
My son was in nursery school 3 mornings a week starting at age 3. This helped to build his social skills, sharing, playing with kids his own age, etc. All the children were so excited about learning new songs, the Easter Bunny visiting, Santa Clause visiting, birthday cupcakes you name it. They would visit a nursing home across the parking lot and sing for the residents. I thoroughly believe in pre-school for small children. The tups are nearly nine and in second grade. So how can Kate say something nasty about little Hank's education.
Pity Party-This is the cast of Splash which premieres Mar.19 at 8pm on ABC.
Ndamukong Suh
Katherine Webb
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
Nicole Eggert
Kendra Wilkinson
Louie Anderson
Drake Bell
E! personality Chuy
Keshia Knight Pulliam
Rory Bushfield
You can read more about it here:
http://beta.abc.go.com/shows/splash/blogs/news/meet-the-cast
If anything most of us here thought Kate was doing a dating show in L.A. without the kids and the fact that she was spotted in a club, no kids. We thought it was some kind of dating pilot.
The Kendra thing kind of threw us off since that's not the logical path the tweets were leading us. We were like whoa wait all this was when the kids were back at home? If you look at the comments many of us even regulars were saying they simply did not believe the Wife Swap story.
If we were shocked and in disbelief why wouldn't Jon be? Where is the evidence the kids DO tell him anything? We don't have evidence either way because he's been so quiet lately.
Movies??? Like films? Like she actually thinks she can just show up on a set and start acting? Her ego is out of control. She really thinks this is leading to something. It would be hysterical if it weren't so sad.
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''Jon knew. Kate was tweeting about doing something at the time. Dropping hints. Cara and Mady are probably in regular communication with their father. They are 12 years old and have phones. It's unrealistic to think that Jon didn't know.''
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Anonymous Marie, I think it is unrealistic to believe that Jon knew. I remember the tweet hints that KK dropped. Never once did she even vaguely hint that the children were involved. It is unrealistic to think that all the kids, and especially Cara and Mady haven't learned to keep their mouths shut about what is going on. They had that drummed into their heads for YEARS when the show was on. Don't think for one second that those children haven't been keeping secrets for years...ESPECIALLY when KK orders them to say nothing!
Shaking my head that Kate is still supporting this:
@Bullyblast
It is unbelievable who quickly we work together as a team to get these horrific accounts shut down. You guys are amazing. #respect #semperfi
Retweeted by Kate Gosselin
1 question. Did they ever permanently shut down any accounts for Kate?
Interesting to note that the kids didn't appear to interact with Deanna particularly. Not like how you would expect them to interact if it was a person that they knew.
They used to hang all over Jamie.
It appeared that Deanna was pretty much an unknown to them. Someone they'd heard of, but not done much with.
Deanna was young. Clearly someone Kate could bully into submission. And had.
Argh, caught a bit of Access Hollywood so saw a clip from last night. I will say that Kendra at least looked like a mom, with ponytail and leggings/hoody. Ms Kate looked styled and way overdressed, she really is clueless.
miloandjack
@Truth_Teller201 @Kateplusmy8 So much4all their vindictive callin Kate a "has been"! She is IN THE PRESENT a CELEBRITY w/@ABC & FUTURE STAR!
This man, woman, thing, or whatever, is insane. Absolutely nuts. Isn't it soon time for Lights Out Man?
Sleepless In Seattle said... 187
miloandjack
@Truth_Teller201 @Kateplusmy8 So much4all their vindictive callin Kate a "has been"! She is IN THE PRESENT a CELEBRITY w/@ABC & FUTURE STAR!
This man, woman, thing, or whatever, is insane. Absolutely nuts. Isn't it soon time for Lights Out Man?
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Don't you know she/he/it is just:
♫♫ Wishin' and hopin' and thinkin' and prayin'
Plannin' and dreamin' ♫♫
All I can say to Milo is...they're coming to take you away, ha ha; they're coming to take you away ho ho, hee hee, ha ha to the funny farm where life is beautiful all the time.....
Milo really has gone off the deep end.
All I can say to Milo is...they're coming to take you away, ha ha; they're coming to take you away ho ho, hee hee, ha ha to the funny farm where life is beautiful all the time.....
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As long as her dear Kate is there with her, she won't care. Life is always beautiful with Kate.
Just my thoughts but I think she keeps the tree house locked so the kids don't have a place to run away too. I also think Kate will get a show from this, perhaps this was a kind of a test run. The show seemed to scripted/edited in Kate's favor, the best Mom, the best adviser, she needs a man kind of way. I think they must have paid Kendra a lot to go along with this.
And just where is Robert? Anyone think that the little article about his book coming back was a plant by Kate's PR team? Any news is good news to Kate!
Kate's not a has been come on guys.
She needs to have a come back in order to be a has been.
Sleepless In Seattle said... 178
kateplusmy8
@cboso @Emeril tfal breadmaker. Can get online at bed bath &beyond! It's the best and the 1 you saw on my ep of #CelebrityWifeSwap last pm:)
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I watched a little bit of a clip from the View yesterday and Katie Irene made a comment about the "6 seasons of our show" making it sound as if the show was still on the air. Delusional--she and Milo are the perfect pair.
OT I caught a hilarious show on E! Tonight, a half hour parody series of the bachelor called Burning Love. Ben Stiller is producer and he had a bit part on it, I recognized several actresses on it. So funny, the bachelor character is a fireman, and he gave the women he wanted to stay a statute of a firehose. ”Titi, will you accept this hose?” Ken Jeong, the actor from The Hangover and Community, played one of the female contestants, he was really funny.
Yes,.the parody of a done to death reality show is much more entertaining than the actual reality show.
Anyone seem the promos for Amazing Race? It shows the father son team with the dad on crutches, looks like he did tear his Achilles tendon. We have never seem a contestant being pushed in a wheelchair thru the airport before, this will be interesting.
Did Tina Yothers get a show? Carnie Wilson? Tracey? Why does anybody think 7m means she's getting her own show on Abc?
Anita said -- "And just where is Robert? Anyone think that the little article about his book coming back was a plant by Kate's PR team? Any news is good news to Kate!"
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Robert was quoted in the Huff Post article/Naughty But Nice. I doubt if he was interviewed by Kate's PR team, or that they fabricated quotes attributed to him. He's probably just getting all of his ducks in order...
Just some thoughts after watching the show on my computer tonight.
Kate didn't say that she didn't have help, she said she didn't have full time help.
She didn't say she did all the household work, she said she oversees it.
Why didn't Deanna introduce the kids? Do you think she knows which is which?
Wonder why all the little girls were in such a small bedroom?
What does Kate mean she can't remember the last time she had dinner with a man? What about Steve? Also, does she mean she never went out to a club every time she was away from the kids doing runs?
They kept showing the same little segments over and over again,considering they filmed for a week, there was very little to see. They must have edited out a lot!
Do you really think it was Kendra's idea to eat tacos on the floor with flimsy paper plates or to call an ice-cream truck or lets go to the the Fun Center because we will be the only ones there? This was so not real!!! I can't picture Kendra going through the phone book and setting these things up herself.
Where is Robert?
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