Kate with swap places with Kendra Wilkinson, tonight at 8 EST on ABC. Also this morning, Kate will be a guest on The View.
Tuesday, February 26, 2013
Discussion Thread: Celebrity Wife Swap
Kate with swap places with Kendra Wilkinson, tonight at 8 EST on ABC. Also this morning, Kate will be a guest on The View.
1256 sediments (sic) from readers:
«Oldest ‹Older 601 – 800 of 1256 Newer› Newest»Penny you got me. I think she is just a quick buck for abc. I really don't think they have the least bit of interest in investing in anything beyond that.
Penny, I agree with Admin. I don't think Kate being on this show will lead to anything. It was a very cheap mid-season filler for ABC before their big shows start in a few weeks.
Jolee said...
I don't get the purpose of bashing every move she makes because I don't like seeing negative everything about any one person. That's just me. However, you all make some valid points in your lengthy and intricate posts. All I can say is keep up the positive posts
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Your post was well-written and you seem like an intelligent young woman. I welcome your opinion and your point is well taken. If you have something positive to say about Kate, let's hear it! Saying that you don't like seeing negative everything is not equivalent to describing examples of Kate's positive behavior or attributes. By all means, please enlighten me.
I can't promise I will agree, and, I speak only for myself. In response to your remark about hair-pulling, Kate has never denied the allegations and it is pretty clear that the source was her personal files which included contracts and her journal. Lane Furniture confirmed the legitimacy of the source when it took legal action against the author. The author also showed proof to some of the online tabloids. So, yeah, there is that.
Joy, I'm asking this nicely. Could you please, pretty please? stop with the spoilers from other television shows.
Even TWoP doesn't allow previews to be discussed.
Yeah, WTH with that tiny prison-like bedroom for the girls?? Odd for a house that size.
Kate looked SO old in this show! Old, greasy and dirty.
I've never seen sadder kids than those poor little boys. :(
Milo is too invested in Kate to be healthy. How's that for stating the obvious. Even if they were sisters or best friends, this type of nearly ferocious insistence that Kate is the once and future STAR! and most bestest mom ever! is bizarre.
I am sure Kate is desperately hoping that her stint on CWS will lead to another tv show, but I truly doubt it. Someone said Carnie Wilson was on CWS last season. She's had several trips on the reality tv show ride. I watched a little bit of one show (that pre-dated her stint on CWS), that was on a cable network. They followed Carnie around in her daily life. The first episode or two were all right, but I actually ended up feeling sorry for her and how she seldom seems truly happy or content. It's always with her weight, her food issues, her constant need for affirmation. She also was host for perhaps one season on The Dating Game (?).
Anyway, my point that is taking me too long to reach is -- Carnie Wilson is actually a talented artist. She has a lovely singing voice, was successful as part of a girl band, has worked on television in this show and that - but even so, she wasn't able to turn being on CWS into another tv gig. Kate is nothing special and she was darn lucky to get this job. I don't see any future work coming her way because of it though.
Meanwhile, Kendra has been in the midst of filming for Splash (or Dive, or whatever it's called), yet another reality tv show.
For the persons who think that ABC may give Kate her own show or series, what kind of show would it be?
She can't go on another Celebrity Wife Swap again. She isn't a professional organizer so she can't go to other people's homes and organize it for them. She can't give out child raising techniques (other than common sense ones that everyone already knows). The Bachelor producer (ABC) already said a few years ago that he doesn't want her for that show. She can't act, sing, dance, or have the gift of gab for her own talk show.
I don't think her kids are cute looking in the least (looks like everyone else's kids). They are no longer the adorable, little tots/kids that America fell in love with in 2006/2010. I don't recall one cute thing said out of the eight of them. In fact, most of them looked void of outgoing personalities. Most appeared to be shy. Of course we only saw a brief part of what was filmed but I highly doubt they were different on the footage that wasn't shown.
And Kate didn't have any personality either. She kept saying over and over to Hank that she wanted to clone him. Hank didn't take to her and she had no special connection in the least to Hank, Lil Hank or Rosa.
And if ABC did consider filming her family again like TLC did, they would have to consider Jon in the long run. And of course, they know that 2 of the kids had severe behavioral problems 2 1/2 years ago. I think ABC knows that the Gosselin kids have been filmed their whole lives and probably don't want to do that to them again. And they know Kate is not easy to get along with. So I doubt ABC wants to make a reality series for the Gosselin family.
SO again, what kind of TV show would ABC consider Kate for?
Leslie
Well, I see, Kate thinks she going to be back on tv. lolol No way, noone will put her mug back on a show!
CWS has never re-launched a career and I have no idea why the 6 fans would think ABC (or any network) would want to work with her. The kids seem sad to watch (I didn't, just by what I hear) and Kate is NOT A NICE PERSON.
They used her for one episode and now they are done.
Also, does Milo know that NCIS had 20million viewers? I believe 20 is higher than 7.
Those little boys' faces broke my heart.
It's me T.
Where are all her friends? Childhood, high school chums, fellow nursing students, co-workers, or fellow parents? She has introduced us to 3 different "best friends(Beth, Jamie, & Deanna), and what they all had in common is that they provided some service for Kate, received compensation for it in return, & then disappeared. Somewhere in there was Carla and her daughters, who were called both friends and helpers, but never bestowed with the title "best". Lucky them. Plus, why do most of her "best" friends need to be imported from another state? Kendra only lived in PA for a brief time and yet she was still able find one to have lunch with. Kate? Not so much.
Kate and Kendra both have pasts that some people might disagree with or find distasteful, yet the public seems more willing to overlook Kendra's past choices, than Kate's. I think the reason is that Kendra owns who she is, does not try to rewrite past, or pretend to be someone else. She appears very genuine and comfortable in her skin, and does not seem interested in forcing us to perceive her differently. Kate on the other hand, seems to be trying way to hard to convince us to believe whatever her current "story line" or agenda is. Reality shrew, or reality victim, the message constantly changes because she is far more interested in SHOWING us her life, instead of just LIVING it. It's not that she lacks self awareness, it's that she has NO INTEREST in it. She is almost like an adolescent trying on different personas to finds the one that she thinks people will like, instead of liking and becoming comfortable with the person that she is. All that unexamined angst is very self defeating, and all the external morphing that she puts her energies into would have a more beautiful outcome if she spent some of it on internal modifications instead.
I don't think she grasps that it is not necessarily what she is lying about that upsets us, but rather that she insults our intelligence by being so bad at it. She also seems to be under the presumption that if she believes her own lies, so should we. Honestly Kate, we don't care if you got breast implants, Botox, or fill in the blank, we DO care however that you think we are simpletons and will fall for whatever line you cast our way. If you insist on being a lying liar that lies, you're going to have to improve your efforts.
Lastly, I don't think people are jealous of her, I think that the interest is related to our own feelings regret and remorse. When we see her hateful behavior and sense of entitlement, we think "hey even on my worst day, I am not as bad as her right?", and since most of us aren't, we feel better about ourselves in comparison. Every time we see her over dramatize a situation, freak out about something trivial, fail her children, be bitchy, mean, or rude to someone, we see a small part of ourselves in her, and take comfort in knowing that our sins or transgressions are not as bad as hers. However, we all also somehow root for her redemption as well, because we know that if she can improve, so can we. We honestly don't want her to fail, we truly do want her to improve and grow as a person. Even though every time that she gets up bat & hits a foul ball we are disappointed, each time we hope, that somehow, this time, a gust of wind will give it the push and change in altitude needed to finally make the crossover into fair territory...
If Kate is just so darn special why did it take a year and a half to get this gig. I certainly don't think there will be much after this. Most people probably tuned in for two reasons. 1.To see Kendra 2.To see the kids. Now that their curiosity has been satisfied I really don't see much in the way of a new show of any kind for Kate. Even if by some miracle she is able to snag a show of some sort I think it will be very short lived as the majority of people can't stomach too much of Kate.
Anita (from previous page)...I also think Kate will get a show from this, perhaps this was a kind of a test run. The show seemed to scripted/edited in Kate's favor, the best Mom, the best adviser, she needs a man kind of way. I think they must have paid Kendra a lot to go along with this.
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I haven't seen the show but from what I've read here and comments on other sites Kate was not shown as the best anything. She seemed to have been shown as the controlling bitch that she is. As others have said, I think CWS is just a filler show for ABC until their "real" shows come on (that's why there are only 3 episodes) and it is probably very low budget. If ABC were really interested in this show they'd put it on during sweeps week.
Sheri said... 58
Anonymous said... (46)
"Watching Deanna and Kate interact, I wonder if they are having a relationship. Deanna's eyes really, really LIT up when she met up with Kate after the swap was over."
Now, to me, in my personal opinion, this is the kind of speculation that people find childish and unnecessary.
Especially when it's from Anonymous and no one is owning it.
Who really cares what Kate's sexual orientation is because it's certainly not relevant to the discussion of Kate exploiting her children.
Again, just my opinion.
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My comment had nothing to do with sexual orientation. It had everything to do with why Deanna was there in the first place, which makes no sense. I don;t care who Kate sleeps with/doesn't sleep with. But the premise of the show is Wife Swap, so the topic, as far as I am concerned, is definitely open to discussion.
And everything on this blog is speculation.
heather
Blowing In The Wind said... 41
2. "Somewhere around 2011 the world watched Jon and I go through a divorce"
Around 2011? She doesn't even remember what year she and Jon got divorced? No wonder she can't get past it.
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If that's what Miss Perfect Spelling and Grammar said, it should have been, "...the world watched Jon and ME go through a divorce."
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Blowing in the Wind, thanks for posting this. It is one of my pet peeves...would one say, "the world watched 'I' go through a divorce"--it drives me UP THE WALL.
Kate is neither a writer nor a speaker.
So after reading the comments here, I thought I'd try to watch again online. Still couldn't get past 5 minutes of watching. I got as far as Kendra and Kate entering the other one's home. Kate was so "I,I,I, me, me, me" And her comment about things being "clutterish". Nope, couldn't go any further.
Kate is just a nasty, hateful person. She needs to feel good about herself by putting other people down. Some day she will find out what it was like for others around her when he own children treat her the same way, if they allow her to be part of their lives.
T. (Anonymous 11)
That was such a beautiful, beautilful post... It really helped make my peace with why on earth I still follow on what Kate Gosselin is up to. What you wrote is exactly what and how I feel about this whole mess.
"However, we all also somehow root for her redemption as well, because we know that if she can improve, so can we. We honestly don't want her to fail, we truly do want her to improve and grow as a person. Even though every time that she gets up bat & hits a foul ball we are disappointed, each time we hope, that somehow, this time, a gust of wind will give it the push and change in altitude needed to finally make the crossover into fair territory..."
Baby Mama @AskBabyMama
@Kateplusmy8 Gotten several e-mails to the site asking abt Chore Guide you used on CelebrityWifeSwap @KendraWilkinson where can we get one?
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The world is full of idiots isn't it? :( Not sure how much longer I can stand to read Kate's Twitter.
Lastly, I don't think people are jealous of her, I think that the interest is related to our own feelings regret and remorse. When we see her hateful behavior and sense of entitlement, we think "hey even on my worst day, I am not as bad as her right?", and since most of us aren't, we feel better about ourselves in comparison.
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I can't speak for everyone, but this is not why I'm interested in her whatsoever. The exploitation of children caught my eye, then the vile parenting and now the child abuse. Finally it was the psychology of it all, the obsession of her fans, the outlandish things she says on TV and Twitter, her severe mental illness, all being played out like a movie.
If I wanted to find someone to help me feel better about myself there are plenty of other offerings. Let's start with politicians, or the Kardashians. But they aren't interesting. I don't see the same kind of exploitation and mental illness going on from those people. Snooze. For someone with a lifelong interesting in psychology and sociology, though I never received anything in terms of formal education beyond an AP Psychology class in it, I find this saga fascinating.
We honestly don't want her to fail, we truly do want her to improve and grow as a person. Even though every time that she gets up bat & hits a foul ball we are disappointed, each time we hope, that somehow, this time, a gust of wind will give it the push and change in altitude needed to finally make the crossover into fair territory...
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This part I agree with. I would love nothing more than for Kate to get treatment and be a better parent to those checked out kids. That would be the greatest gift she can give them. Forget a reality show, she would help them best by getting psychological help. Which is why so many of us have said on this blog, literally thousands of times, Kate get help, Kate get therapy.
Lane Furniture confirmed the legitimacy of the source when it took legal action against the author.
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Yes remember they were saying he stole trade secrets by publishing the contracts? Now you can't exactly steal trade secrets if you made it all up. That was pretty compelling verification in my book.
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Baby Mama @AskBabyMama
@Kateplusmy8 Gotten several e-mails to the site asking abt Chore Guide you used on CelebrityWifeSwap @KendraWilkinson where can we get one?
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The world is full of idiots isn't it? :( Not sure how much longer I can stand to read Kate's Twitter.
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Painful, isn't it? I find myself taking breaks from it periodically, just to maintain some sanity.
"However, we all also somehow root for her redemption as well,
True. Mostly because the looks on those kids faces are just heart breaking.
Speaking of clutterish...uh, Kate? Did you SEE your counters when it was showing you & Deanna in the kitchen at the beginning?
And what was with all the plastic bags Kendra had the groceries in? Uh, Kate? Where were all of your re-cycle bags for her to use?
And speaking of "green"....why is Kate using paper towels to clean the frig? There are "green" re-usable products out there for that.
Same with the Windex. There are way better "green" products to use.
Oh wait. The "green" thing was just for an episode. Not something you really bought into.
Just like you're so "addicted to giving back". Which fell by the wayside after the episode. And you weren't even donating your own stuff/money, it was TLC's money. You actually got PAID to stand there and say that, so in my book you didn't give back *anything*, you took something.
If you were truly addicted to giving back, how come you didn't donate that episode's salary to the cause?
If they only eat off paper plates and use plastic cutlery, and paper bowls in the morning, what is there to wash in two dishwashers?
The prison trays are only for supper. So 8 trays and 9 glasses to go in the dishwasher. Hardly even a full load for one dishwasher.
Even if they have prison trays for breakfast, that's still only 16 trays to go in the dishwasher. Still only one load.
I liked how Kendra gave credit to her nanny, Rosa. The woman was not only introduced by name, she was allowed to be filmed taking care of the kid.
Unlike Kate, who tries to pretend that her staff doesn't exist. Much like she does to Jon.
Nice way to make your staff feel valued, Kate.
I finally saw that cleaning the refrigerator picture, and while refrain from commenting about the food on the floor, because that is just really gross. I was bemused by the many containers holding dozens of eggs. At least they appear to be marked with dates, BUT no way can this family eat that many eggs. And I doubt she brings them to a food bank. Loved the many, many jars of non-organic salad dressings and other food items on the fridge door. And yet, what does her Gosselin Famiy Manual start with? This is an organic household. Puh-leeze, the hypocrisy is glaring is it not?
Well, the one-off show is over. There is nothing on her calendar. Spring break is coming, so another week of basement cleaning, playing school, etc. I wonder if that treehouse is ever unlocked? And the Skeevester appears to finally be MIA. Perhaps Chef Kate will be working on self-publishing her new cookbook. Yawn.
I promise no spoilers!
It is not a spoiler to write about what is shown in a nationally televised commercial or next week preview for an upcoming show. Amazing Race commercials are running in heavy rotation on CBS and contestants and their activities are clearly visible and Phil is taking about what country they are in. CBS wants people taking about the commercial, so they will tune in to watch the episode. I don't know who will get philiminated and wouldn't post if I did.
I think ABC knows the 7 million was do to several reasons:
1) Heavy preview ads on ABC prior to CWS airing for over a week.
2) Kate going on the View and other entertainment shows to advertise CWS
3) Radio shows by both Kate and Kendra for advertising CWS
4) The public has not seen the 8 kids in a year and a half. They turned in to see the kids and how they look today.
5) Kendra has a huge following too. She has over 2 million facebook followers. So it certainly wasn't just the Gosselins the public was turning in for.
6) And the idea of the show was interesting. Two known families swapping.
ABC knows that if they gave Kate a regular show ALL of the above would not happen again. Therefore we know Kate could never maintain 7 million followers or even half of that. She had her own TLC show and her numbers went down to 600,000 one week. Generally speaking every week her show averaged around only 1 or 1.5 million.
However Kate will always be lurking around and will appear periodically on our tv screens until her kids are through college. The public will want to see her kids grow up through the years. They will want to know what happens to them. I just don't think she will have her own TV show ever again.
And I bet Kate will show up on the next Apprentice show with The Donald. She isn't following him for nothing.
Leslie
I don't think the "Skeevester" is MIA at all. She filmed Celebrity Wife Swap after her less-than-stellar appearance on "Watch What Happens Live" with Andy Cohen, and Steve was with her then.
Who do you think is taking the glowing pic of that HUGE smile while cleaning out her frig? I'd be willing to bet it's her own live-in lover, the Skeeve.
philiminated ???????
I think if they were truly interested in seeing if they could make a go with Kate they would have done a two or three episode test run. It's one thing to get 7 million your first episode, quite another to maintain it, and they know this.
And again, I don't know how you can really say for sure how many of those 7 million were because of Kate and how many because of Kendra. I looked up ratings for Kendra's show, which was buried on the E! network and I think WE too at some point. She was consistently getting over 2 million viewers an episode. As I recall, most of Kate Plus 8's episodes were averaging more in the 1.2-1.5 ballpark and at least three episodes fell below below one million, promptly speculation she was done.
http://www.realitytvkids.com/2011/06/giving-back-ratings-fall-to-0938.html Kate did sometimes hit 2 million but not often.
If you're going by the ratings, arguably Kendra is the bigger draw. Maybe they'll give KENDRA a show. Oh wait, they did. Oh, snap!
Kendra has a genuine warmth about her...that's why she has a show.
Uh, don't try it, Kate...it would look contrived on you, because it would be.
Kate has tried to insult our intelligence for years. That never bodes well for the long run. The hypocrisy is overwhelming and at times just makes my blood boil. She is not a person I would choose as a friend or as is said, "not a friendship to cultivate."
Kendra has personality and depth. It may not be depth in all things people approve of but it's still depth.
The problem with Kate is she is a one trick pony. Her trick is that she is a vile person. Now, people will watch the one trick pony once in awhile because the trick is good and outlandish and people like to be horrified. But, it won't be long before we want to see a different trick. You can only stand there mouth agape in horror for so long before it's boring.
Kendra's IMDB has her working consistently since 2004. Show after show, including acting and reality, clog her resume. She has no gaps. That's because for every one trick Kate has, Kendra has 50.
She is not a person I would choose as a friend or as is said, "not a friendship to cultivate."
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Apparently you are not alone. She has very few friends. Let's look at the recent big four: Carla, Ashley, Jamie and Deanna. I think Beth and Jodi were more normal friendships and were naturally, estranged ages ago so I won't talk about them.
I do find something odd about her friendship with Deanna and the other three to some extent too, Jamie and Carla and Ashley. I do not however think it's sexual. In each of those friendships she appeared to be preying on type B doormat type personalities, like Jon, who will put up with a lot and not squeal. For at least three of them, she appeared to hang their love for the kids over their head. Even Jamie said on the RV trip whatever I'm just still here for the kids. In each relationship, she appeared to me to be highly manipulative. She would butter them up and give them lots of things they may want (mention their name, include them on the show in filming, pay them well) and then when she's lured them in often burn them badly.
In at least two of the cases there was a significant age gap. That's not to say a young woman can't have a perfectly normal and healthy friendship with an older woman, but in some cases, the older more "powerful" person is exerting undue influence on you. Especially when they are a celeb Teflon and with claws.
The bottom line is that this kind of odd power imbalance and manipulation is no "friendship." Not anything I would be proud to call a friendship anyway.
And I don't mean this in an insulting way but none of the four strike me as very sharp. I don't mean they can't do algebra, but some people just don't have the street smarts and common sense to see through the fact that they are being grossly manipulated. I think the four of them just looked at the situation very simply, "I like Kate and her kids and those awful haters just hate" never letting themselves delve deeper into the situation and ask themselves why people take issue with her and ask themselves is this REALLY what a REAL friendship is??
I think Ashley in particular just didn't have a clue. As she matured and went to college she woke up.
If the reason the treehouse is locked is for safety concerns...be it person or animal...shouldn't that also be a concern for the hen house?
Yes, they seemed to have walkie talkies when they were at the hen house, but couldn't they have the walkie talkies while at the tree house then?
some people just don't have the street smarts and common sense to see through the fact that they are being grossly manipulated.
True for Deanna for sure. And Ashley because she was so young.
Carla, hard to say what her story was.
Jamie...I think she had street smarts. She seemed hard to me. I think at first she was in it for the kids, and later not so much for the kids, maybe more for the perceived fame later.
Interesting thing to note. Jamie looked very similar to Kate for quite a while there; they even wore the same outfits. And now Kendra looks very similar to Kate.
What's that about?
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philiminated ???????
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lol--Penny, that's the slang for being elminated at the end of each episode by Phil, the host.
I forgot that Carla is a devout Christian. I think she may have been under the mistaken believe that a "good Christian" would not judge Kate.
I wonder if Kendra has to sign confidentiality agreement in order to film with Kate and the kids?
Didn't Kate also have another "friend"(don't remember name), that appeared on the DC cupcake episode with her two girls? Whatever happened to her? Or was she just another "friend" that was needed to film the show?
I think the biggest problem that Kate has in creating a media career is that she makes herself so unrelatable. She thinks that what she has to offer is her uniqueness, which comes out in her constant one upmanship about how much more ( fill in the blank) blah blah blah because she is a single mom of 8. She doesn't have friends because she always focuses on their differences --not their similarities.
How on earth can her advice be useful to anyone unless they have the luxury of not working and can devote endless hours to supervising, masterminding and overseeing other people? So, what would be the point of any show? It must be horrible to have been so close to her dreams, only to watch them disintegrate. Well, she sure hoisted herself on her own petard (sp)--didn't she?
My question is, does Kate have ANY friends that do not do tasks for her?
Kate will never, ever be truly happy unless she has 100% control of everything & everybody- and everyone sees things her way. It's very important to Kate that everyone agrees that her way is the only way.
After a while, every living/breathing soul has to get the hell away from that.
Ahhhhhh, wtf. I really don't care anymore.
All I can say is, thank God I'm not her.
T, (anonymous) 11--great post. And, I always love a baseball analogy.
Anger issues--good to see you back and commenting.
To Mel #37: The reason the Treehouse is locked is because that is a fun place for the kids and Kate does not invite fun for them. There is an entire history of that on full display for 6 seasons for the show. Kate appears to be a deeply disturbed individual who unfortunately is raising a lot of children. Their saving grace will be Jon's influence on them.
I'm thinking about "users" vs. "takers." We know who has been the taker. Also, kindness can be mistaken for weakness. Once a person figures it out, they run for the hills away from the taker. It doesn't feel good to be "taken." Experience has been a great teacher for me. Thanks, Admin, for using my little quote and for all the work you do on this blog.
I don't know that I believe Kate and Steve are sexually intimate. I frankly don't think Kate is a very sexual person. I think she is sexual if it's going to get her something, I think she likes to dress sexually because she craves attention but honestly she doesn't strike me as a person who really likes sex. It's a means to an end, like so many other things in her life.
I've known people who are (or at least claim to have been) promiscuous. That doesn't mean they like sex. I know that statement seems incongruous but sex is such a complicated thing with so many underlying factors that go into it other than just the physical act itself.
I think Steve is her surrogate father. I think Kate has major daddy issues and I think she puts Steve in that role because she craves/needs that relationship in her life and she can't have it with her own father. Think about the role he plays in her life. Isn't very father-like? I don't know, maybe I'm wrong, that's just how I see it. I think Steve is emotionally safe for her. I think she can flirt with him, she can have him around her as arm candy, she can submit to his authority and still respect him precisely because she's not sleeping with him.
Didn't Ashley have more of an employee/employer relationship than a friendship? I can't see her there just to "hang out".
One certainly has to wonder what was Mady thinking to even bring up the tree house? Surely it wasn't part of the script, a tree house that is kept locked, and the key not available to anyone but Kate. Also at the time it was built, she pointed out that she is afraid of heights, like her mother, and wasn't all that eager to climb up that ladder.
Interesting thing to note. Jamie looked very similar to Kate for quite a while there; they even wore the same outfits. And now Kendra looks very similar to Kate.
What's that about?
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Did you ever see Single White Female with Jennifer Jason Leigh?
Haven't been around for a while because it's Girl Scout cookie season, but am enjoying reading the comments about the show. I haven't watched it yet and I'm not sure if I will or not, more just because it would take up time and that's a precious commodity these days. If I'm going to sit down and do something for an hour, I think I'd rather WoW or plan my spring garden than watch her try to convince everyone what a great person and mom she is. She is the most desperately insecure person I think I've ever seen.
I was really enjoying her not being on tv, frankly. I wish nothing but the best to both her and Jon and especially the kids, as I think they have a hard row to hoe. But frankly, she has nothing new it sounds like to offer other than her tired old "I'm a great mom because I'm super organized and have 8 kids and a hen house full of chickens and look at how stressed I am but I keep doing it all for my kids". That smacks of self martyrdom and I really hate that behavior. We all make choices everyday and we all live with the choices we make. That doesn't make us extra special. It makes us human.
I guess I just don't understand this need to put your life out there for public consumption. I could never do what she does. I like my life and I cherish my privacy. I like being able to share with the world whatever I want to share and keep private the things that are for myself and my family only. It's one of the things I don't like about Facebook as well. My life is pretty boring. People don't need to know what I just ate for breakfast and that I'm sitting here commenting on a blog, for example. Not earth shattering news in any way shape or form.
It's like every little thing we do now has to be news. It means every little thing we do is just as important as the other things we do that really are important.
Don't get me wrong, I think social media can be a good thing when used in the right ways. But I also think that it has trivialized our lives to a certain degree. If everything becomes noteworthy, then nothing ever truly is and people have to keep raising the bar to make themselves seem worthy and to feel validated by external measures rather than internal ones.
Just popping in to say our fears have been realized.
Kate has just blogged about potential teenage HORMONE problems with her older girls.
I'm so sad for those kids.
did anyone see the tweet from Kate on the night CWS aired....where she said that she and the kids were so excited to see "r show" and to see "us" on tv....wtf? wasn't Kendra and Hank a huge part of this as well. She really does sit there and wish to rewind time and have it be Kate Plus 8 FOREVER!!!
Those kids work like mules. Do they start as soon as they come in the door? Does she make them do all the chores done before homework? then they MIGHT have a 1/2 hour of playtime?
What a EVIL YOU KNOW!
What got me is 2 of the boys carrying I think chicken feed bucket, looked like a propane tank to me, they could barely pick it up. They had a long plank of wood thru the handle and was hauling it to the chicken house. THEY ARE ONLY SEVEN! This should be done by an older kid, 13 or 14. kate could hire a young man to do these jobs, but she is too stingy to do it. She forces these children to work like this so she doesn't have to hire full time. That is why she has part time. Kids work part time, help works part time, kate works NO TIME!
I emailed Paul Peterson and told him about the manual how bad it was and that she was working them like mules. I went to the PA child labor website and you have to have a permit to work at 14 a job. Well, IMO, kate is working those kids illegaly and she should be called out for it, even arrested. Kendra, Kevin and Jodi, Jon, everyone else could testify against her. But, that is me dreaming. When is her day coming?
Hurry, Robert, HURRY
Anonymous (heather) said...(14)
"My comment had nothing to do with sexual orientation. It had everything to do with why Deanna was there in the first place, which makes no sense. I don;t care who Kate sleeps with/doesn't sleep with. But the premise of the show is Wife Swap, so the topic, as far as I am concerned, is definitely open to discussion."
Sorry heather, but you did not sign your original post like you usually do so I attributed your comment to the shit stirrers who post anonymously with inane comments meant only to get a rise.
Had I known it was a regular poster I would not have been so quick to judge the context.
Personally I don't understand why Deanna was there either, isn't she Kate's make-up artist?
She left her kids for a week in the care of a stranger and her make-up artist. Wow, mom of the year there.
Berks Neighbor said... 48
Just popping in to say our fears have been realized.
Kate has just blogged about potential teenage HORMONE problems with her older girls.
I'm so sad for those kids.
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Oh no she didn't :( I'm not sure I want to read it. How mortifying for those poor girls.
What got me is 2 of the boys carrying I think chicken feed bucket, looked like a propane tank to me, they could barely pick it up. They had a long plank of wood thru the handle and was hauling it to the chicken house. THEY ARE ONLY SEVEN!
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Time goes fast -- they will be nine in two months! Still, they shouldn't be used as manual labor!
From Kate's latest blog post...
"Welcoming in the year of 2013 and all of its promise (and perhaps a bit of dread and trepidation for mom?) also brings with it a birthday that in one fell swoop will take ME into the realm of parenting teenagers ... times TWO. Basically what I'm saying is ... I need advice and I need it NOW!! Can you read my panic, here? Help me!!!"
Oh lordie bee...the twins' birthday is what...October? 8 months away and she needs advice "NOW!!"
Here's some advice, STFU and stop making everything that happens in your kids' lives about YOU, YOU, YOU!!!!!
All those girls are going to hear for the next 8 months is their pathetic mother moaning and groaning about how hard it is on HER that they're going to be teenagers this year.
If I were them I know darn well what my reaction this article would be. "Yep, 13 down and only 5 more to go."
Well, IMO, kate is working those kids illegaly and she should be called out for it, even arrested. Kendra, Kevin and Jodi, Jon, everyone else could testify against her. But, that is me dreaming. When is her day coming?
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As passionate as one may be about the amount of chores they have, the DOL has no jurisdiction over the amount of chores kids do at home. No work permits are required, and she can't be arrested for having her children do chores.
"Even if they have prison trays for breakfast, that's still only 16 trays to go in the dishwasher. Still only one load."
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Pots and pans, mixing bowls, etc.,utensils, from preparing the food?
Kate's bog is all about how the twins becoming teenagers will affect her, and her alone. She makes it appear as if she is going into a war and must draw up the battle plan 8 months early.
What we saw on the show surely disputes this little gem she wrote:
"Some of the very best advice I've ever received has come from close friends who observe the workings of my household and offer their opinions on how to handle different situations. I deeply appreciate their willingness to impart their seasoned advice to me, and quite honestly, I lap it up!"
And as I said, as usual, it's all about her.
Welcoming in the year of 2013 and all of its promise (and perhaps a bit of dread and trepidation for mom?) also brings with it a birthday that in one fell swoop will take ME into the realm of parenting teenagers ... times TWO. Basically what I'm saying is ... I need advice and I need it NOW!! Can you read my panic, here? Help me!!!
By the way, the "ME" is the way she wrote it--I didn't change it at all. She's asking for advice. Ha ha-that's a good one. Since when would she follow anyone's advice if it were given to her?
silimom said... 52
Haven't been around for a while because it's Girl Scout cookie season, but am enjoying reading the comments about the show.
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I'll take 5 thin mints please! Ours sell in the Fall and last year's are long gone from our house!
- former cookie mom
Anything you want to say about kate's appearance, dresses, vocabulary, fine. But, the fact that the kids have a schedule, get good rest, eat well, look healthy and happy as hell says a lot. Take them out of that schedule and they had fun on a school night, but they were tired and they were so overly ready for sleep that I'll bet the next day was hard for them in school. Putting their things away, making it easy to get to them in the morning is great and I did that with my 4 boys. They made their own lunches, put their things together the night before because the mornings were a mad house otherwise. The older kids are the more organized while attending school. When they go to college and live in dorms, they can be slobs, it is their life, but my own sons have families now and their children do well in school also because the schedule they live by is organized. They get their Friday nights to have fun, pop corn watch movies, Saturdays is half chores and the rest their time. Sundays is half and half because Sunday night is hard on adults to, trying to get ready for the week and get to sleep after a day or two of not bothering with an alarm clock.
Got to give it to Kate, she has great kids who enjoy their organized lives and enjoy school. It is where it should be at that age, happy.
Who said 8 yr old are boring, they are fun loving, but they like routine and they need discipline because the teenage years and puberty come in like an alien arrives at your house sometimes.
Kendra is a Barbie doll who has money and a hubby who has money and they have the Beverly Hills life........but that little boy will either have a childhood and discipline and learning or be another Hollywood deadbeat kid trying to get an acting job. But knowing his father's family and how educated and wonderful they are it will never happen. He is a good father.
We don't see everyone's life on those shows, but I think gosselin family is bankable once again, whether they end up back on TV or not is another thing. remember they are 8 kids with 8 different personalities, not 6 with one mind. nor twins with one brain. Kate is doing a good job and they do love their mother.
Jon? Did he really want to work as hard as Kate does? Even a p/t anything plus doesn't raise a family of 8 children, we do have to get real here. Don't like her or anything about her but her family is doing really well, some credit is due. No one raised those kids, if she had help, she had help with cleaning, laundry but look at how organized those kids are.
Try listening to a couple of kids wanting to talk to you and tell you about their day each day, it does make you tired as you try not to let them worry about anything but their own lives, their farm, they are healthy.
Doesn't Milo supposedly have teenagers? Kate saying that she needs advice and needs it NOW, is just what Milo needs to hear.
She just tweeted a link to the bog and has already started. Milo will be tweeting her advice every day for the next 7 months!
miloandjack
2013: The Year of the Teenagers (PHOTO) http://t.co/5FCMGFet6j(preview) via @The_Stir @Kateplusmy8 LOL Step up 2the challenge! U can do it Kate!
miloandjack
Teenagers (PHOTO) http://t.co/5FCMGFet6j(preview) @The_Stir @Kateplusmy8 One tip,when they have problems..don't over-react no matter how bad! :)
"Kate has just blogged about potential teenage HORMONE problems with her older girls."
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Any word about new bras or feminine products? Hold on...that's coming.
Milo is telling Kate not to over react? That is Kate's specialty. I guess Milo knows that or she wouldn't be mentioning it, but Kate is still the #BestMomInTheUniverseAndBeyond
Wow, just wow. I finally got through CWS. At the final segment when they are discussing their experiences I couldn't keep my eyes off Kate. She had the plastic smile that we have all seen and then the next minute she doesn't smile and is shooting Kendra the evil eye. Kate does not take criticism at all. As far as Kate is concerned SHE does everything right and Kendra is just a spoiled wife and mother.
Kendra on the other hand was kind and gracious. The exact opposite of Kate. In the end the only thing that Kate admitted that should be changed is SHE needs to relax more. What? That's all she does.
Amy said... 63
Try listening to a couple of kids wanting to talk to you and tell you about their day each day, it does make you tired as you try not to let them worry about anything but their own lives, their farm, they are healthy.
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Amy-I don’t understand what you’re trying to say here. Do you mean it’s “tiresome” having to listen to kids speak about themselves? To me, that’s the best part of the day. To hear what your child has been doing, has been feeling and has been thinking. It’s called communicating with your child, and I would never find that “tiring”.
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Amy said... 63
We don't see everyone's life on those shows, but I think gosselin family is bankable once again, whether they end up back on TV or not is another thing. remember they are 8 kids with 8 different personalities, not 6 with one mind. nor twins with one brain.
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The last thing those children should be thought of as, is “bankable”. They’re children. They’re not supposed to be supporting themselves and their mother. That’s their parents’ job, not theirs.
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Amy said... 63
Got to give it to Kate, she has great kids who enjoy their organized lives and enjoy school. It is where it should be at that age, happy.
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Going by what I saw on CWS, those kids looked anything but happy. Yes, organization is good-but over the top controlling is not. Did you read Kate’s manual? To me, that’s not organization-that downright control regulating every minute of those kids lives.
And how, may I ask, do you know that they enjoy that or that they enjoy school?
Welcoming in the year of 2013 and all of its promise (and perhaps a bit of dread and trepidation for mom?) also brings with it a birthday that in one fell swoop will take ME into the realm of parenting teenagers ... times TWO. Basically what I'm saying is ... I need advice and I need it NOW!! Can you read my panic, here? Help me!!!
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She makes me so angry! Try raising four teens at the same time, different ages, when you're a widow with nobody to help and no advice from anyone and those kids are desperately missing their father because they can't understand why he was take away from them. It's not easy, but you do what you got to do to make sure that your kids know that they are loved and appreciated, even if it's just Mom caring for them. You've got to be both Mom and Dad for them and you learn more about sports than you ever thought you would, and it means going to all school activities by yourself and supporting them in everything they do. You find yourself running in all directions at once, but you do it and you get through it. In the end you say, "Well, that wasn't so bad!"
Why is she in a panic over the girls turning 13? Their birthdays are nearly a year away. She has siblings herself so she has seen it with her own eyes. What a tool. The moods, personality changes, whatnot, are not going to happen overnight. Everyone is going to react differenly as they go through puberty so why is she expecting the worst? Does she expect them to come out of their bedroom looking like monsters on the day they turn 13?
Spring Break for Kate Gosselin and her 8 starts tomorrow. Wonder if it crept up on her (again) or she has plans; filming? or beach trip? or nothing at all? The kids will most likely be Kate's "helpers" for duties around the house or playing school in the basement.
If only Jon could take his boys for a "get-away".
Kate is a twit said... 61
Kate's bog is all about how the twins becoming teenagers will affect her, and her alone. She makes it appear as if she is going into a war and must draw up the battle plan 8 months early.
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Oh dear. I foresee scheduled weekly urinalysis in the their future. Those poor kids.
If Kate is so organized and has the children on such a tight schedule, why do they not belong to any sport teams or after school activities. We only hear of the twins activities but never is anything said about the tups.
Oh Geesh! I have a boy and a girl and when they were 13, I didn't have a problem with them. They were both focused on school, friends, outside activities, and preparing for the Bar/Bat Mitzvahs. Raising my kids was fun to me- not begrudging! I also kept their privacy! Get a grip!
Anonymous (it's me T) said:
... However, we all also somehow root for her redemption as well, because we know that if she can improve, so can we. We honestly don't want her to fail, we truly do want her to improve and grow as a person.
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I enjoyed your comment. However, I have long since stopped expecting or hoping that Kate will redeem herself, improve as a person, or do better by her children. I think she is incapable. Something vital is missing in her genetic make-up. She cannot empathize with others, she doesn't care about others, and the only thing that matters to Kate is getting what she wants in this world.
I can't root for something I don't really believe is possible. However, I do hope and pray those children can endure until they are old enough to get away from her grasp and control. I hope that the time they spend out of her presence offers them comfort and some measure of happiness. I am glad they have their father that they live with half the time. They just need to endure awhile longer, until they can break free.
Kate's whole bog could have been written using 4 sentences.
"MY" twins are going to be teenagers and "I" don't think "I" can handle it. "I" don't know what "I'LL" do. Help "ME"! It's all about "ME"!
Even Paige in her own way, told her to calm down:
paige_kate8fan
@Kateplusmy8 Not all teens are horrible! Lol you'll be fine!
Wonder if Khate will put a lock on Mady's door now that Mady admits she sneaks downstairs to watch television? Bet she also sneaks on the computer too!
Anonymous said:
And I bet Kate will show up on the next Apprentice show with The Donald. She isn't following him for nothing.
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I actually might watch Celebrity Apprentice if Trump included Krieder in the mix. (I've been boycotting that show for at least the past two seasons because Trump is such a (insert bad word here).)
However, one thing that's important to remember at Celebrity Apprentice is that the competitions are always about raising money. Each celeb is supposed to pull his or her own weight in bringing out big dollar donors. Stop for a minute and think about who Kate could reach out to, for a big donation. Her current bestie - the make up artist? Her purse wrangler? Her agent? Those are actually the three top choices I could come up with.
Sports figures usually call up one or more of their old teammates, who usually have $10K or more to donate to the cause. Joan Rivers had a bevy of people who she tapped into for donations. Holly Peete Robinson had her husband's contacts as well as those she had formed because of her charitable organization.
So why would Trump include Kate Krieder, a little podunk has been with no rich contacts, in his show? Only for the drama factor. He's got a whole pile of D-list celebs who are more familiar to the public and eager to be on the show. Why would he pick Kate? Much more likely he would seek out Kendra, for the chance/hope that she could get Hugh Hefner to appear on the show and donate some money.
Amy@63. There's organized and then there's boot camp! I know that you claim not to like Kate or anything about her but your post says just the oppisite. You bashed Kendra, Jon and even Kendra's kid! If you think those kids look happy than you watched an entirely different show than I watchd. I guess the kids could get on another TV show if they wanted and that would be Living Dead becasue those kids were walking around like little zombies!
Oh, geez...now some of the uber-haters want Kendra and Hank to contact CPS. Why? For having the kids do chores? For Kate's strict schedule and her controlling ways? CPS can't regulate how Kate raises her children. For them to investigate, there needs to be a reason to do so, and abuse that can be proven. Making the boys clean out the chicken coop does not, under the law, constitute abuse.
Kate's never going to give up control, strict scheduling or running the house like a dictator. It's her way or the highway, and she made that quite clear, and there's nothing CPS can do about it.
silimom said... 52
''I like my life and I cherish my privacy. I like being able to share with the world whatever I want to share and keep private the things that are for myself and my family only.''
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I agree with you, and that is why I'm not on facebook. It is also why I like this blog. I can say some things about my life/the past, and keep the rest private...including my name and the posting name I use everywhere except on this blog, the only place I'm Remona, Blue or not!
Amy...
Take them out of that schedule and they had fun on a school night, but they were tired and they were so overly ready for sleep that I'll bet the next day was hard for them in school.
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Kate is a twit--I think you did a great job addressing all of the points of the OP.
Kendra did not behave as a mother--she is like the cool aunt that swoops into town, disrupting the schedule, feeding them junk foods and doing overly stimulating activities on a school night. Then, she blows out before she has to see the consequences. I don't hear anyone here advocating for this. Kate and Kendra are extremes, and extremes do not work with children--balance does. Kate leaves zero space for the kids to stretch and get experience the natural consequences that give them critical thinking skills that will make them successful as adults.
And, yes--what Kate took away from all of that was that she needs to relax guilt-free. Not that her kids were overly regimented. She appears to have no capacity for growth. But, I do appreciate the posters that are taking the time to articulate their support for Kate. Reasonable, respectful debate is healthy.
Jon? Did he really want to work as hard as Kate does? Even a p/t anything plus doesn't raise a family of 8 children, we do have to get real here. Don't like her or anything about her but her family is doing really well, some credit is due. No one raised those kids, if she had help, she had help with cleaning, laundry but look at how organized those kids are.
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I guess we were watching the show with very different sets of eyes. I recall Jon doing so very, very, very much. When the show was in its first season or two, Jon was working full time out of the house. He would rise early (he had a somewhat long commute), follow a variety of post-it note instructions, make coffee for Kate, and quietly leave for his long day at work.
After returning home after his long work day, he was immediately put to work by Kate. She turned the children over to him, dramatically claiming she was done! for the day. So he played with them, helped with dinner, gave them their nightly baths, washed their hair, brushed their teeth, put them into pajamas, tucked them in bed, the whole works.
When it was a Saturday, Kate put him to work. Cleaning out the garage, putting together beds for the children, helping to build a room upstairs for the two older girls. He worked like a horse, and took her verbal and literal jabs to boot.
Kate spent more time on her butt in a white plastic chair than any other mom I've seen. I don't call yelling orders at your husband and children "working hard." I call that lousy parenting and lousy partnering.
Oh, one other comment I wanted to address from Amy's post about how Kate is financially supporting the kids. I will give her a bit of credit for not blowing all of her money, as so many celebrities do--she did seem to have saved up for a rainy day. I have always believed that she is set for life, based on the caliber of her attorney's. I think they had sound financial advice. However, that money was earned on the backs of her children. Not only did they lose their privacy and had to work to support their families, their mother refuses to acknowledge this inconvenient truth. There is no reason on earth that children who began working at age 2 should be used as farm hands and a cleaning crew. Kids need to learn to take care of their own stuff and contribute to the daily routine stuff like setting the table, etc.
What got me is 2 of the boys carrying I think chicken feed bucket, looked like a propane tank to me, they could barely pick it up. They had a long plank of wood thru the handle and was hauling it to the chicken house. THEY ARE ONLY SEVEN!
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Time goes fast -- they will be nine in two months! Still, they shouldn't be used as manual labor!
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I don't see anything wrong with this, it is a necessary job when you have animals in your care. Anyone growing up on a farm would've hauled many 5 gallon buckets of feed and water lovingly for their animals, even at the age of 7. The rewards far outweigh the bucket...
Amy said... 63
''Got to give it to Kate, she has great kids who enjoy their organized lives and enjoy school. It is where it should be at that age, happy.''
''Kate is doing a good job and they do love their mother.''
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I have no doubt that the children enjoy school....but enjoying their organized lives? NO WAY. Did you hear Mady say that all she's ever known is work? Do you see ''happy'' faces on any of those children when they are with their mother? Have you ever heard anyone, other than KK or a paid employee of KK, say the children are happy when they are with her? I agree that the children love their mother...even abused children love the parent who abused them. KK doing a ''good job''...the only thing that KK is ''good'' at is turning her children into robotic slaves when they are with her!!
I agree with many posters here that the boys look like they are serving a life sentence with no chance of parole. That family has always had a clear hierarchy, and the boys are always at the lowest rung. Sadly, it now looks like they are fully aware of their lowly position.
Milo's still defending Kate's "parenting" skills:
miloandjack
@gypsi001 @Kateplusmy8 IMO..kids 2day R not getting ENOUGH training. 2much free time 4games/videos, etc.G kids not spoiled/appreciate funXs!
miloandjack
@MY_3BCOLLIES @Kateplusmy8 When the Gs grow up,they will be equipped 2handle life's responsibilities/marriage/work..credit 2Kate's training!
I've never heard anyone speaking of raising kids as "training". You train animals-not kids. You teach kids, you educate kids you nourish kids.
Well, I guess it is true in Kate's case, because she displays her kids like they were a circus act, and her life is definitely a "train" wreck.
And Kate, watch out for a flurry of DM's and emails:
miloandjack
@Kateplusmy8 I assure U I have some real life advice2offer on this subj, No one set way 2do .but some things 2avoid/some 2pursue! #Teens :)
The Donald once said in an interview with Howard Stern that he doesn't go looking for celebs to appear on the show because they contact him and beg to be on the show.
Millicent said... 78
Anonymous said: And I bet Kate will show up on the next Apprentice show with The Donald. She isn't following him for nothing.
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I actually might watch Celebrity Apprentice if Trump included Krieder in the mix. (I've been boycotting that show for at least the past two seasons because Trump is such a (insert bad word here).
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I totally agree. I would to watch Kate get ripped apart and have to take it. I don't think anyone on her team would let her be involved because she don't have anything to offer than meanness. She is clueless about how to accomplish anything and thinks it is something special when she when she adds what little she knows. Goodness yes I would watch.
If Kate is not using the kids to film and it is just her I have no problem or business saying what she does. She does need to work. What ever career she chooses, as long as the kids have a private life, I say go Kate. Besides, even if she has to leave the kids I call it a blessing for them. What better way to have your mom but not have to live with her wrath. Sounds like the answer to me. Maybe then Jon can get full custody of them.
Millicent said... 78
''I actually might watch Celebrity Apprentice if Trump included Krieder in the mix.''
'' Why would he pick Kate? Much more likely he would seek out Kendra, for the chance/hope that she could get Hugh Hefner to appear on the show and donate some money.''
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Oh Millicent! Your speculation that Trump would more likely choose Kendra than KK caused me to laugh so hard that I had a coughing fit! You are SO right! I'm smirking as I think about KK's reaction when she learned Kendra would be on Celebrity Apprentice!
I don't care what job Khate gets as long as it's not in the entertainment industry. "She" does not deserve that high pay and has ZERO talent- ZERO! It's Khate's fault that the family is blowing through the money. "She" could have just used their show money to put away the income and should have lived more frugally- like all the other families of multiples have done! I don't believe in rewarding poor behavior and don't believe your fame should come from having children. We, the public, do not owe Khate anything! Geesh!
wildrose said... 85
''Anyone growing up on a farm would've hauled many 5 gallon buckets of feed and water lovingly for their animals, even at the age of 7. The rewards far outweigh the bucket...''
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As one that grew up on a farm, whose parents used every one of us as substitutes for hired hands, I assure you that slopping the hogs, gathering eggs by the five gallon bucket full, working the one acre garden, taking care of 1500 turkeys being raised for Thanksgiving market, then cleaning the house and having the responsibility for caring for my younger siblings....there was not one single chore done ''lovingly''! The ''rewards'' were doing enough of the work to avoid being beaten...KK's version of being ''happied up''. Trust me, those Gosselin children see ZERO ''rewards'' for what their mother forces them to do!!
I think The Stir should have hired her for monthly blog entries only. She's going to run out of topics sooner than we think.
I agree with Remona farm work is no romance novel. I heard horror stories from several friends growing up in a rural dairy farming area. 4 am call times, school all day, chores all night. Rinse and repeat. It did not seem that rewarding. There's a reason none of these kids stayed in the family business. Not to mention farming is not their income so why all this work??? Like everything she does what is arguably a good idea, a garden and a few chickens, and morphes it into some giant unrealistic operation amounting to space labor. For what? A fridge full of pretty brown eggs that will spoil before anyone eats them. And why is it that Kate and the girls don't help with the chickens, why is it all left to the boys?
The way Kate has things set up she is fostering resentment, not rewards.
Ha funny autocorrect. Space labor is slave labor. Even apple hates the idea.
Amy said... 63
Try listening to a couple of kids wanting to talk to you and tell you about their day each day, it does make you tired as you try not to let them worry about anything but their own lives, their farm, they are healthy.
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Kind of sounds like how they take care of the chickens. As long as they have a roof over their heads and food in their belly they will work and produce for you. So what ya got then? children who cluck, pick, run all over and lay eggs. Hummm, kind of sounds more like Kate. No wonder that's all she can teach the kids.
ex-nurse
petard is correct, both in spelling and both meanings..lol
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lol, je pense tu va comprendre, le traducteur G..non
ex-nurse
petard is correct, both in spelling and both meanings..lol
l'oiseau..j d aoi a t jaser..si ca tente..en bo qb ois..lol pmoe si tu veut
lol, je pense tu va comprendre, le traducteur G..non
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 95
''I agree with Remona farm work is no romance novel. I heard horror stories from several friends growing up in a rural dairy farming area. 4 am call times, school all day, chores all night.....''
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Seeing ''4am call times'' reminded me of the smartest thing I ever did growing up as slave labor. Milking the cows was yet another ''chore'', and they were milked very early in the morning. As the oldest, that was to be one of my chores, and I quickly learned to be 'unable' to milk the cows properly. I endured being slung around by my hair, backhanded across the face, and screaming right in my face in order to finally be banished from that ''chore'. My survivor instincts enabled me to not only avoid the chore, but to feel little sympathy for the next in line sibling who was 'promoted' to be the one to rise early to milk the cows!
That sibling got even with me by being 'unable' to drive the tractor, which became my ''chore'', in spite of being really allergic to the dirt stirred up.
We were 5 and 4 when this happened. Obviously, watching those poor Gosselin children has stirred up my bad memories of my childhood. Sorry!
My take is if you don't enjoy the wonderful experience of a child who just wants you to know how great or in some cases not so great their day was, because you being a part of their lives, feelings and what makes them tick means the world to them, then don't have kids. There's no shame in it. Just don't have them.
And why is it that Kate and the girls don't help with the chickens, why is it all left to the boys?
Because Kate had to do it when she was a kid. She stated that in one of her Coupon Cabin "teaching the kids responsibility" posts.
And the reason it's only the boys? Because outdoor work is man's work after all.
I have a proposition for Kate. I will swap households with you. Seriously. You can film it. It's "Celebrity Wife Swap" but instead of two celebs switching places, it's a celebrity who switches with an everyday regular family. You don't even have to have Deanna fill in as your SO, unless of course she is.
You always claim that your non-fans (Sorry, I don't hate you so I don't consider myself a hater) have no idea what you really go through and if we did we'd change our tune. Okay. Challenge accepted. Let me (or any one of us) walk a week in your shoes.
Kate could do CA. She's no more narcissistic then some of the people they've had on and she's proven herself to be a good ratings draw. She'd be gone by the third episode, so it'd be a win win. She'd get the publicity and a mini vacation from her kids and Trump/Burnett would get a boost in ratings.
People love to watch someone who thinks they're all that and a bag of chips implode. It's cathartic. The viewer is living vicariously through that situation.
And why is it that Kate and the girls don't help with the chickens
Because they're princesses.
Oh wait. Isn't that what Kate was bashing Kendra for being?
Deanna slept over the garage, so we are to assume that Kendra was the only adult supervisor on the house, correct???
Kate mentioned that she "met" Kendra on DWTS.
Case in point: we can conclude that Kate does not KNOW Kendra. Mady tells us that she knows who Kendra is from sneaking down to the basement and seeing her on her reality show!!!
Where the heck is the children's body guard???!
Hypocrite doesn't even begin to do justice to Kate pretending to be a mother.
I am sickened.. A complete stranger watching her children day and NIGHT for maybe up to a week. What if a child had a nightmare, what if....oh my word.
Elizabeth -
Oh RemonaBlue - I am so horrified by the stories of your childhood, and thankful you survived and I hope have thrived overall.
I recently re-watched Frontier House and one of the things they discuss is how children, even very young ones, had to be put to work so that families could scrape out an existence on the frontier. They talked about the loss of childhood for those trying to make it in the West in those days. You would think that those days were long gone for many decades, until someone like you shares their own personal story.
You are a survivor and I hope you are happy in the present.
I find it quite ironic that there's another article posted today at the Stir called "3 Easy Ways to Build Self-Esteem in Teens".
Maybe Kate she read the blogs at the site she writes for. She might actually learn something.
Franky, je ne sais pas comment te rejoindre, pmoe veut dire quoi?
One of my very best friends grew up on a farm and had to help raise her siblings. She is always saying that she did not have a childhood nor did she do any of the things that other teens did because she always had to be on hand to clean the barns, feed and take care of horses, pigs, chickens, etc. She's 60 today and still resents having lost her youth.
Amy said... 63
They made their own lunches, put their things together the night before because the mornings were a mad house otherwise.
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Amy, I don't think it is the kids getting ready for the next school day that bugs people so much. It is Kate saying SHE DOES IT that bothers people. It's the lies and the look at what a good mother I am. Remember the other day when Kate tweeted it took nine minutes to get off to school? The kids do it while she stays in bed. THAT'S THE PROBLEM. Where is the mother getting them up. Where is the love in the breakfast. You say the kids know what to do. Why then did Kate have to bark at them to sit down and put the napkin on their lap. All she does is bark orders, even when the kids know what to do. Good moms don't constantly yell, they teach and praise. They make you feel good that you know how and give them self worth. If Kate has taught them so well why did I hear some of the kids say "what do we do" when Kendra told them to help themselves.
They OBEY Kate, not respect her. Goodness, you can tell that Kate has not taught them that. Look at the fiasco that took place during the picnic, NO RESPECT THERE! Look at the panic when food got spilled and some got on one of the girls sock. Did she know she only had to take off her sock and put it in the laundry herself? No. she had a panic attack. So please tell me, how is that good parenting. How is that teaching your children what to know. IT ISN'T. What work ethic has she taught them? Your adult job is punishment? You don't do anything unless you get paid for it? You ask anyone you can for freebies? You live off the state if you have many children and save what you have so you'll be rich when your older and then you can pay for child care, housekeeping, yard work while you oversee what they do. How is any of that good parenting.
Oh, and the golden rule, yeah Kate taught them that. I saw the results during the picnic also. Good parenting? My mom was a drug addict all my life yet she still taught me do unto others. For that I am truly grateful. It can get you far when you have to figure out adulthood by yourself. My heart hurts for the G8!
I think the reason parents look up to Kate is because they lack the logic and reason, or maybe the laziness to figure it out for themselves.
Goodness, I have to stop. Not only is this too long, my heart is feeling too much anger and I don't want it to turn into hate instead of sadness. Please tell me you are not a mother like Kate. I would love to hope you taught your children their tools with love, praise and kindness.
My take is if you don't enjoy the wonderful experience of a child who just wants you to know how great or in some cases not so great their day was, because you being a part of their lives, feelings and what makes them tick means the world to them, then don't have kids. There's no shame in it. Just don't have them.
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The best part of my day is picking my kids up at school, having them run to me and I swing them around while the teachers are watching and laughing. I listen to the kids chatter about their day, as they show me what they made. Sometimes we stop for ice cream or frozen yogurt on the way home. I taken in every minute of it, knowing that the day is going to come when I won't be able to lift them up and swing them around. Such a silly thing, I know, but it's beautiful. I tell myself that as they grow, new chapters of their lives will begin, but I'll never forget the look in their eyes when, as little children, they see me and run to me.
Kate is a twit said... 88
Milo's still defending Kate's "parenting" skills:
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Unless you want your kids to turn out like Milo with Celebrity Worship Syndrome and Gladys Kravitz Malady, I hope Kate knows not take Milo's advice about anything.
So spring break for the G8 is starting tomorrow. Can't wait to see what fun Mama Gosselin has planned for her brood for all of next week. Hope their father can take some time off, and while there will not be an expensive vacation, there might be some days of normal fun, minus chicken duty and scrubbing bathrooms. One can only dream.
For Remona: So sorry to hear about your experiences on a farm. No child should have to endure that. As to the Gosselin children, unfortunately they are at the "mercy" of their mother. She has no idea how to raise children and never has other than a "military" kind of upbringing. I hope that when they are with Jon they can relax for awhile. Until Katie Irene Kreider learns to get psychological help, which she obviously desparately needs, those poor children are like whipping posts. Their expressions say it all.
And why is it that Kate and the girls don't help with the chickens
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I have NEVER seen anyone with such RIGID gender stereotypes.
silimom said... 103
Kate could do CA. She's no more narcissistic then some of the people they've had on and she's proven herself to be a good ratings draw. She'd be gone by the third episode, so it'd be a win win. She'd get the publicity and a mini vacation from her kids and Trump/Burnett would get a boost in ratings.
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Haha.. Lisa Lampanelli ripping Kate a new one would be worth its weight in ratings. Kate couldn't even fight back because Lisa won't let anyone get a word in edgewise.
Millicent said... 106
''Oh RemonaBlue - I am so horrified by the stories of your childhood, and thankful you survived and I hope have thrived overall.''
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Millicent, my siblings and I all survived AND have thrived. We all also had children and ALL of us broke the circle of abuse that so many abused children pass on to their children. We banded together as children and support each other as adults. All of us were available to each other to come 'help' at the drop of a hat when one was feeling overwhelmed. All of us raising children used the method of 'doing the opposite of what our parents did', and all have wonderful children and now grandchildren.
We are SO grateful for each other and the support we gave each other.......and that is why I have such hope for the Gosselin children. They are living in times that have bruises reported to CPS. When we went to school with black eyes or broken noses, or bruises, it was considered none of anyone's business. All they have to do is be silent slaves when at their mother's house, and as CWS made clear, they are able to do that!! Most of all, the Gosselin children have their loving, laid-back father, who allow them to be kids, and has no problem with giving them hugs and kisses.
I think I remember one time when the girls wanted to help with the chickens. They helped carry feed out to them. Maybe that was just a one-time thing, for camera purposes? It may have been when the chickens first came to the GosselinFarmVille.
Njay you write so well. I agree with everything you waid. Kate doess not know how to parent her children.
Blowing in the wind, I drive and pick up my grandson at the daycare everyday, and it also brings joy to my heart when I see his face light up when I pick him up. I have NEVER seen Kate really hug, close her eyes and feel the love children so willingly give.
Orangecrusher, Kate has gotten so much attention from her twitterers lately that I think the thought of the children's spring break has not even crossed her mind. Right now she's all about ME, ME, ME. I only hope that Jon has planned something for them.
I haven't seen the CWS episode yet. The comments here have been sad and interesting.
I am one who believes (and hopes) that Jon has the children with him 50% of the time.
That would include some school days and some weekends.
What happens to the rigid chore chart when the children are away?
Crumbs on the floor and laundry could wait until their return.
However, the chickens couldn't. If the hens are the sole responsibility of the Gosselin boys, who tends to the water and food needs when the boys are visiting with Jon? Who collects the eggs?
There are so many holes/flaws in a Kate story.
I don't see anything wrong with this, it is a necessary job when you have animals in your care. Anyone growing up on a farm would've hauled many 5 gallon buckets of feed and water lovingly for their animals, even at the age of 7. The rewards far outweigh the bucket...
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I disagree. The family doesn't live on a farm. It's one thing when kids grow up on a farm and that's the family's main source of income. Kids can do chores. Kate doesn't need chickens. She got them for a show and to maintain the home's status as a farmette for tax credit. The kids didn't ask for those chickens to be placed in their care. The chickens are not pets. They are egg-producers and I can't imagine the kids have grown so fond of them that they need to lovingly care for them.
Let the kids have other chores to teach them responsibilities. Right now they are being used as manual labor when they should be enjoying school, having extra-curricular activities, and just being kids -- not dragging buckets around that are too heavy for them to carry. If Kate insists on having chickens, then let HER and the girls help the boys with them. The job shouldn't rest on three eight-year-olds.
Ah, c'mon people! Kate's just trying to get the boys' arms toned! SHE does it by hauling in 50 pound sacks of organic wheat flour. She just wants them to look good in their muscle shirts by hauling chicken feed.
"they will be equipped 2handle life's responsibilities/marriage/work."
Yes, Milo, the children will learn about marriage and work from Kate. Berate your spouse until he runs away screaming, and get rich off a reality show.
> If Kate insists on having chickens, then let HER and the girls help the boys with them. The job shouldn't rest on three eight-year-olds.<
Oh exactly. The chickens are a vanity item, and unless she is giving some of those eggs away, she is probably throwing some percentage out. But the whole family should be caring for them. Kate does have some very rigid gender issues in addiion to her narcissistic belief that everything should be done FOR her, and nothing BY her.
And yes, between the twiitering and anticipation of CWS that spring break is not on her radar. And tomorrow the calendar age turns to Kate's birthday month, so what spring break?
I haven't posted in a long time. Then again, Kate hasn't done much in a long time. I watched to see the kids and to see if she'd have some sort of meltdown. She didn't, so it was boring. The kids have grown a lot. All children are beautiful, of course, but they don't have the adorableness of babies or the perfect looks of child stars.
Kate's way of running the household isn't a bad way for a teacher to run a classroom. A lot of kids the same age engage in a lot of stupid, petty bickering over nothing and it sounds like that describes her household. Kids need love at home, though, and it sounds like she's running her house like a dorm or institution. This is a good argument against purposely creating multiples. Nobody's home should be like a boarding school.
Here is Kate's problem: her fame is from being what my mother calls a 'pity pet." People felt sorry for her. Now she's had multiple plastic surgeries, looks like a Barbie doll with too many facelifts, clearly has money--so why does anyone feel sorry for her? But without the sympathy, she has no source of fame.
Here's her second problem: Her next "brand" was of someone who was mentally ill. How many shows were based on her having a meltdown? But that wasn't a good idea, either, since she does have the 8 kids. So now it's back to the pity party. Nobody who follows her believes that she has had no time for herself, works herself to the bone or whatever. She looks like a tacky reality star and tacky reality stars don't inspire sympathy.
The best thing for her is to make up with her husband. Seriously. The single mom thing is growing old, and that would be a story of redemption for both of them.
I think arguably some overworked farming children are not much better off than exploited child actors. They may not be famous but they work hard long hours for little or no pay and sacrifice normal kids things. There is tremendous criticism of this. We should have long moved past the antiquated notion that children are born to help support the family. A child can and should do chores and help out but when it comes at the expense of school, activities and a reasonable amount of time with friends there is an issue. Conversely I know there are farm families who do a good job balancing and in fact a family that runs a prominent farm specific to a specialty food that has been friends with my family since my grandparents were kids I always observed to strike a good balance. The children including their daughter helped out with chores but also had plenty of time for friends, sports and they all went far away to college. Two of the boys have decided to take over the farm after their father died. They hire many farm hands. I understand many can't afford that luxury but that's no excuse to use your kids as slave labor.
And the argument is even weaker when you aren't even living off your farm but just doing it so you can brag on twitter. That's nuts. Get four chickens and a couple rows in a garden and call it a day.
Worst case scenarios with overly regimented children are that they will either be unable to make decisions (like me) or will become equally
regimental adults both at home and in the work place (like some acquaintances of mine.) I would like to see something different for the Gosselin children. Therapy would make a world of difference for them.
Didn't Kate say they were getting therapy? I wonder if it was just the two who had trouble at school.
I hope they have someone they can dump all this on. If it's Jon, then he's between a rock and a hard place because I hope he knows better than to criticize his ex wife in front of her children. That is never a good idea. They need someone who will give them feedback without doing that, and he's not in a good position for that. Far better for there to be a trained professional for them to talk to.
"However, the chickens couldn't. If the hens are the sole responsibility of the Gosselin boys, who tends to the water and food needs when the boys are visiting with Jon? Who collects the eggs?"
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The chickens schedule their egg-laying to coincide with Jon's custody days? They hold them in?
Who takes care of them when the family goes on vacation? My bet is that she has a full-time chicken keeper who makes sure they are well taken care of. She and the boys wouldn't know a sick chicken from a healthy one, or how to properly care for that many birds.
The next celebrity apprentice Kate could do is 2014 and it has not been renewed thru 2014 yet. The next season starts this week and has finished taping. They only air the show once a year now. The very few reality tv stars that Trump has picked have had either big connections or big personalities (Kate has neither), Like Gene Simmons, Tersea Guidiuce(who was quite boring when taken out of her RHONJ setting, so I think Trump might take note, because he wanted her there for drama and she did not produce any), Khloe Kardashian, and Victoria Gotti(another one that didnt produce the drama Trump thought). As much as I might like to see Kate make a fool of herself on CA, it isn't going to happen.
The whole wife swap episode screamed I need a man. Give me a dating show!
Kate keeps mentioning her toned arms.Insecure much? I did think she's looking older ( and odder)
but surely she should 'embrace' that and have FUN?
I thought the teenager ( in Oct) blog was crazy- why psych yourself out as if on their birthday months from now they will turn into something nasty?
I also thought it was too personal, taking about hormones etc- pre-teens are sensitive.
Just home: Long day of work&then a $500 grocery shop/lug/put away! Good news is we get 2sleep in in am! Me thinks I need the rest! GN!
10 mins ago - Twitterrific
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Was it necessary for Kate to let everyone know how much she spent on groceries?
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Just home: Long day of work&then a $500 grocery shop/lug/put away! Good news is we get 2sleep in in am! Me thinks I need the rest! GN!
Why does Kate feel it necessary to tweet how much she spent on groceries? Was that with or without coupons? Is being a supermom based on how much you spend on feeding your children?
I'm sure the lugging and put away was done by the kids, but of course, she's the one who needs the rest.
fidosmommy said... 126
''Worst case scenarios with overly regimented children are that they will either be unable to make decisions (like me) or will become equally
regimental adults both at home and in the work place (like some acquaintances of mine.)''
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OR all make the deliberate decision to break the circle, as my siblings and I did. As far as Jon goes, I think he has made it clear with his public apologies that he knows where he went wrong in the past, and I trust that his love for his children will guide him to make the correct choices now. Jon has always been openly loving with his children, and I believe they know he is their 'safe place'.
I think that KK would fight therapy for her children to her last breath. She would be terrified of what they might reveal about her behavior and her treatment of her children. KK wouldn't care at all if therapy was helpful or needed....all she would think about is what would they say about MMMMEEEE!! !!!!!!
Good heavens. The type of abusive farm labor that is "good for children" has been carefully regulated for years. In fact, the Feds recently tried to outlaw almost ALL farm labor by children under 18. Thankfully, that intrusion by the Feds was held off, because it elimanated part time jobs as well as even simple chores done to participate in 4-H projects! Of course, there is nothing wrong with a few chores along with going to school and playing sports/plays/band, etc. But forced chores beyond their years by 8 year old really is a NO-NO is real farm country.
Let's face it, Khart is a horrible parent who is also so stupid she allowed her boys to look like they were part of a chapter from Oliver Twist.
"And the argument is even weaker when you aren't even living off your farm but just doing it so you can brag on twitter. That's nuts. Get four chickens and a couple rows in a garden and call it a day."
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Exactly. I know nothing at all about chickens except that they lay eggs. How many eggs do they produce in a week? Can Kate use all of the eggs that they lay? Would 20 chickens lay a dozen eggs a day? Kate wants 50 chickens. Can she use 160 plus eggs per week? Even with eight kids, that sounds like a heck of a lot of eggs.
I so like how Kate uses the kids to find a man yuck.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_7Nyt1GGiE
Watch it if you dare.
Anonymous said... 11
We honestly don't want her to fail, we truly do want her to improve and grow as a person.
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I would like to be excluded from that objective. I'd like to see her in jail for screwing innocent people out of their money.
Kate looks so different her face isn't even the same shape.
She really needs to cut it out or she's going to look manly.
(Not being mean just being real)
"Work"???
Does Kate consider grocery shopping work???
Cause last time I checked she didn't have a job.
Chefsummer @ 138 - to me, she looks exactly like KathyLee Gifford now.
Admin-I just knew you would pick up on that. Kate doing anything is work to her. Baking bread, cooking, laundry, etc, etc. She couldn't get that all in using 140 characters, so she just shortened it to "work".
But of course, her tweeties will think that she now has a new "project" going on because of her outstanding performance on CWS.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 139
"Work"???
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I was just about to say the same thing! WORK? Does anyone remember Maynard G. Krebs (Bob Denver) on Dobie Gillis, and his involuntary shrieking when someone mentioned WORK? They sometimes show re-runs on the classic tv channel. I can just imagine Kate saying WORK! when someone asks her if she found a job.
Remona Blue, I was talking about the worst that could happen. What you and your siblings did is the BEST case scenario. My hat is off to all of you. The bond will be there between you forever. Blessings.
In looking at the picture of Mady and Cara that is on Kate's bog, I was wondering where it was taken. It doesn't look like any part of their house.
I wonder if one of the twins were somewhere with friends, and they had a friend take it for them. Also, it looks like the logo on their shirts was blurred out. Isn't it Mady that uses some kind of photo-shopping program?
Interesting that Kendra had no idea what celebrity "wife" lived in Pa. She must have never bothered to watch her dwts pal's show.
-Elizabeth
Remona Blue said... 93
wildrose said... 85
''Anyone growing up on a farm would've hauled many 5 gallon buckets of feed and water lovingly for their animals, even at the age of 7. The rewards far outweigh the bucket...''
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As one that grew up on a farm, whose parents used every one of us as substitutes for hired hands, I assure you that slopping the hogs, gathering eggs by the five gallon bucket full, working the one acre garden, taking care of 1500 turkeys being raised for Thanksgiving market, then cleaning the house and having the responsibility for caring for my younger siblings....there was not one single chore done ''lovingly''! The ''rewards'' were doing enough of the work to avoid being beaten...KK's version of being ''happied up''. Trust me, those Gosselin children see ZERO ''rewards'' for what their mother forces them to do!!
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Sad but true. The G boys are and have been pretty much catonic, not daring to say a word that would upset their mother.
I am sorry that you had to go through what you did, and I think this what draws many of us to this site. We understand the tremendous harm that can be done to kids who are used as a tool, who have gone through a lot of trauma, and are used as a means to an end, with the parent having no concern for their well-being. The impact is tremendously devastating.
"Long day of work?" WTF? What a insult to the real working moms, who after a long day of work, go to the grocery store, spend their hard-earned money, lug it all home and put it away. Then start dinner and the evening routine. That woman has real balls.
And she so deserves to sleep in tomorrow behind her locked door. Fr the life of me, cannot figure out why. What brass.
Hey, I would classify writing a check for $500
worth of groceries "work", wouldn't you? And then to get juuuusst enough energy back to tweet about it.
Who does that? Hey, 15 minute-ers, yesterday my friend and I went to the store. Well, I stayed in the car and she shopped for both of us. Anyway, she spent $87.53. Aren't you glad you know? Wasn't it important for me to tell you that? Would you like to know how many pounds of meat and coffee she picked up? Be sure to write back if you do!
Good grief, Kate. Just....good grief.
They made their own lunches, put their things together the night before because the mornings were a mad house otherwise.
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Amy, I don't think it is the kids getting ready for the next school day that bugs people so much. It is Kate saying SHE DOES IT that bothers people.
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Exactly. I haven't seen anyone say kids shouldn't be organized! Kids should just run wild! Kids should just show up to school whenever, they'll get there when they get there!
There's nothing wrong with a little advanced planning. There is something wrong when you take it to such an extreme degree that nine and 12 year olds can't even make simple decisions on their own. And the rules are DUMB, I'm sorry they are. There is no reason for many of the rules she has, not a good one anyway.
I would like to be excluded from that objective. I'd like to see her in jail for screwing innocent people out of their money.
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Same goes for me. I'd like her to return the money to the state of PA for the nursing care it provided to take care of her infants. Once she got back on her feet and collected a few million from the show, she could have reimbursed the state.
Of course, she did screw those innocent people out of their "love offering" money. It would be nice to give back to all of those churches where she spoke, especially she was settling on a million dollar house at the same time she was hitting the church circuit.
I don't require jailtime but I do want the best for her after she pays me and everyone else back for the nurse we paid for (I was living in a PA when the kids were born), pays back all the nice church goers she scammed while signing a Lane contract within weeks of taking their money, and then works to sock away the equivalent of every last cent the children made for her, plus interest, to be available when they are adults.
Sheeple -- bless their hearts. Sometimes you just gotta love 'em
jeschippel
@Kateplusmy8 Kate what a day. I know u work at home but do u have a 2nd job outside the home.
krystaroo
@Kateplusmy8 are you back to working as a nurse again?
deadfan1973
@Kateplusmy8 Are you working on another new project??!! Are we gonna see more of you on TV again soon! Hope so!!
I want to be there the moment someone in authority tells Kate Gosselin that she must repay the state for the nurse. I would hire my own camera and production crew for that little
special moment. So sad it will never happen.
Pennsylvania government has moved on, I'm sure.
chefsummer said... 137
Kate looks so different her face isn't even the same shape.
She had so much botox in her forehead I thought she looked like Herman Munster. lol
LOL. A nurse! Maybe they missed it the first 100 times Kate said I don't want to be a nurse and help people and support my family and be proud of what I do with my head held high, screw that I want to be FAMOUS.
I think she's doing a lot of chemical peels and other unnatural things to her skin too. I knew someone who did that a lot and her skin became this shiny beacon of light that Kate is getting. It was gross. Hence Kate saying I haven't had "surgeries" I bet she's had everything but.
If it took 10 years to get PA to care about some silly little sexual abuse allegations, it will probably take 100 to get them to do anything about someone stealing a nurse.
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@Kateplusmy8 I don't know how you do it. You are one amazing woman! You deserve a break!
...today, so get up and get away to McDonalds (and start flipping burgers)!
See, even the sheeple assume that when Katie refers to working all day, she must have a job outside the house. Silly sheeple. They, of course, are the ones working 9-5, and then doing everything else.
Brass balls.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 152
She does look shiny. lol
gotyournumberKate said... 150
I was more thinking drag queen lol but that would be to mean.
Orange, that's the sad thing. They look up so much to Kate and yet many of them are the REAL working moms. The real heroes who are working 40, 50, 60 hours a week to make ends meet and then still do everything Kate does afterward when genuinely tired, not just tired as in I'd love a little nap after my manicure and massage. If they want someone to admire, they should start with themselves.
That's great that they can just sleep in tomorrow after an oh so hard day. Are the sheeple buying this??
Half day or day off or whatever, I don't care and don't need to know. But, here's the thing. Most moms still have to work on Friday. It's a workday. So, despite being tired from their long day today and long week, they can't just sleep in, they have to get up at their usual early hour, take care of the kids, and off to work. And now, in addition to all that, if the kids have a half or full day off, now these same working moms have to figure out whether to take the day off themselves, or try to scrounge up a sitter, or find another house they can go spend the day at, put them in daycare, take them to the office, or otherwise grapple to figure out what to do. And then as luck tends to have it someone will wake up sick tomorrow and all your plans are blown.
These are the struggles of the real working moms, especially the real single moms.
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@Kateplusmy8 but tomorrow is Fri don't the kids have school on Fri
Is Kate going to explain why the kids don't have school tomorrow? Or is she going to stay off twitter for the whole week, and give her tweeties more hope that she has something in the works.
chefsummer-I looked at that video. Not one muscle on Kate's face moved. I also notice that new, big sparkling ring on her left hand. Another thing bought with the kids money? I've never seen her wear that one before.
What I noticed about the lunch bags (can't think of a better word) was that they were all the same. Any no individuality allowed.
If they want someone to admire, they should start with themselves.
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Or each other. They could learn so much from each other if they would start their own blog of parenting tips, recipes, organization, budgets with kids, etc. Just open a subject and let them ask, answer and support each other.
Of course Kate could chime in if she wanted, but she would be one voice among many.
They might be amazed at how much they already know and could share, rather than spend all their spare energy drooling over Kate's TV shows and twitter.
Kate is a twit said... 164
I didn't notice her face didn't more lol.
She had the ring for some time now over two years I think.
Fido, good idea. Kind of like here. A rather large group of women, many mothers, and occasionally a few men, collaborating, bouncing off ideas, sharing tips. There's no celebrity or idol who is the focus, it's a collaborative endeavor. When people slip up, they are called out, usually in a kind manner. When people do well, they are praised. Blogs are the modern day campfire. Far more helpful in my opinion than staking everything on some D list celeb.
chefsummer said... 167
I know that she's had the ring on her right hand for over 2 years now. I'm talking about the one on her left hand. The one that looks like it has a pearl on it. She was flapping her hands so much, it really stood out.
Let's all promise to meet back here and do a book club after the first tell all is written by one of the kids.
That woman is nuttier than my Grandma's fruitcake.
Kate is a twit said... 169
''I'm talking about the one on her left hand. The one that looks like it has a pearl on it. She was flapping her hands so much, it really stood out.''
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I'm trying to remember KK talking about wanting a ring circled with 8 diamonds...didn't she say ''mother of pearl''? I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if she got a pearl surrounded w/8 diamonds as a 'present from her children' on some or the other occasion. Christmas? No...I think they bought her a Dyson for Christmas. An early birthday present? Or.......oh wait...I know! The children bought her that ring as an early Mother's Day present!! That woman is one piece of work.
Kate is a twit said... 169
Maybe it's her mother of pearl ring.
Or Steve popped the question or grown a boyfriend popped the question.
Thanks, Admin. Now, do you want to tweet the idea to Milo? She's probably got the time to run a blog. Snark
Maybe it's their birthday present to Mommy Dearest.
She has no clue whatever what real working moms do with school holidays, does she? In Kateworld they just somehow get to sleep in. Working all day, my a#*.
fidosmommy said... 153
I want to be there the moment someone in authority tells Kate Gosselin that she must repay the state for the nurse. I would hire my own camera and production crew for that little
special moment. So sad it will never happen.
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I know. We won't see her get her due and we won't see her get treatment for her mental disorders either. I guess we'll have to face the fact that she gets away with anything she wants, including parking in the fire lane. That's what is so infuriating.
Is it just me or did anyone else notice this: when Kate interacted with Hank Jr., she appeared stilted, cold and unattached. I just didn't feel any love like I did when Kendra interacted with Kate's kids. Kate doesn't have that warm, maternal characteristic. She seems almost uncomfortable with kids. It doesn't come naturally to her. When she was blabbing to the camera about spending the day with Hank Jr. instead of him being in pre-school, I found it hard to believe that she would spend a whole day with him playing with blocks and toys. They showed her doing that and it seemed contrived and weird. Again, no warmth or love was shown. She always looks like she rather be somewhere else than sitting with kids. It takes a lot of nerve to tell Kendra to quit being so selfish when she herself is the master at it. But we have known that about her for years. Do as I say, not as I do.
Being the insecure, low self-esteem, inferior person that she is, it must have been difficult to hang out with Hank Sr. and his friends during the BBQ. All she was thinking was, "oh, I wish I had all these friends, Kendra is so lucky, why can't I have this...." She is her own worst enemy.
And Deanna. Wow. Deanna is one of those people who should get a part time gig as a social worker. She appears to be a gentle soul who wants to fix people. Perfect match for Kate. I guess Kate got tired of friends like Jamie who told her she was no Angelina Jolie. Deanna tells Kate she can be the next Marilyn Monroe if she really puts her mind to it.
I finally have my computer back, I innocently clicked on the wrong box, and ended up being locked out by a trojen, and was it ever awful,just sickening. I just got it back from the shop today, glad to have it back, just to read this blog! I did watch kate on CWS. She will always be fake, no changing that. The thing that has been really bugging me is that I have seen Deanna somewhere on T.V before, not on kate's old show, as it was over by then, but somewhere else. It is driving me nuts! Anyone feel the same way? I see I sure have lots to read before I catch up to everyone.
OT-I went to bring home a little Maltese dog today, she has been abused, so it will take work, but I love her already! After losing the Yorkie in January,I am more commited than ever to help these lonely little 'throw-away' dogs, give them a proper secure,safe and loving home. My other dogs love her already,but it will take a few days for her to trust us all. I will let you other dog lovers know how it is going.
I feel sorry for the kids, yes. But at least they have each other, and their dad, and people at school. Shoka has nobody. Ever. He seems to be living a sad, lonely life devoid of affection and companionship. And I'll bet he is the object of rage, and suffers from blows. He has been trained to be submissive, so I doubt he'll strike back. That poor beautiful creature. I REALLY want to pluck him out of there. At least when Nala was there he had some interaction and comfort. Shoka probably bothers me most of all. Which seems odd since he is a dog and the others are children, but there it is.
It's me T.
To clarify: When I say that I hope that she learns and grows as a person, it does NOT mean that I do not think that Kate shouldn't be held accountable for her words and actions. On the contrary, I think that accountability is essential to that growth, and it should be done with just as much personal zeal and public pomp and circumstance as the original actions committed. I am weary of the many public individuals who continue to exploit the blurry line of fame for their own benefit rather than embracing the many opportunity to shine the spotlight
where it can benefit the many. In short, of course I want Kate called out for her lies and misdeeds. In fact, if she is struggling to find incentive for self introspection on her own, perhaps there is someone who works for the justice department who will be able "to help her" find a more conducive space for reflection?
Ps. Does anyone know why I am having trouble making a name using iPad?
Did Robert report that CPS was called on Kate? If not, where is this person getting this from? I thought all CPS investigations are sealed:
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@JudyTru @kateplusmy8 Was reported twice to CS. 0 charges laid coz "house clean & neat", thanks to cleaning lady. Child abuse hard to prove.
Oh, Hook'em Horns, that makes me feel so sad! If I lived near there, I would just drive over and steal him,yes, steal him, bring him home, INSIDE my house, give him a huge soft dog bed, let him chew on bones inside, all day if he wants, and just give him all of the love he has been missing all these years.He would never have to live outside ever again! kate is heartless. Totally.
Robert in fact did report it to CPS. Kate also has a journal entry where she said she heard they were being reported to CPS, I can't remember about what episode but I think she meant she heard non-fans were, which I have heard also happened.
What we don't know is the results of those investigations because that's confidential. For all we know they've had social workers heavily involved. Although I doubt it, since it's hard to keep that kind of thing quiet.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 182
''Robert in fact did report it to CPS.''
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If I remember correctly, when Robert reported the abuse to CPS, he included KK's own journal entries about how she abused the toddlers. Am I correct?
Paper Plates Forever! Yay! said... 176
Is it just me or did anyone else notice this: when Kate interacted with Hank Jr., she appeared stilted, cold and unattached.
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No it wasn't just you. If Kendra was like the cool aunt that blew in and out of the Gosselin house, Kate was Nanny 911 at Kendra's or at least that's what she pretended to be but she failed. Just because she has eight kids doesn't mean she knows anything about parenting. In real life she would have packed her spanker and used it on Lil' Hank. That's the only parenting tool she can relate to.
I have never understood people who fear the teenage years of girls. Any teenager, regardless of gender, can be tough to deal with at times. My husband and I raised two daughters who are less than two years apart. Were our girls farting unicorns during that time? Of course not. But they didn't turn into Carrie either. If you listen to them, set boundaries, let them know there are consequences for negative actions (and follow through), have patience, compassion, understanding and respect (and expect respect in return), it will be fine. But most of all, talk WITH them, not AT them. Of course, we all know Kate doesn't possess any of those traits. I've overheard women in stores saying they are so glad they have boys and not girls because girls are so hard to deal with. Hormonal teenage girls are no worse than hormonal teenage boys. Teenagers, whether girls or boys, can get through their teenage years pretty well if the parents are interested in and actively involved in their lives. Again, something that Kate is not. Everything reverses to me, me, me. If Kate runs into problems with her teenagers, it will be because of her and not them.
chefsummer...172 My guess is the grow a boyfriend.
Thank, admin and Remona. So if the results of investigations aren't known, then where is it coming from that nothing ever happened because the house was clean and neat? Did Robert say anything about that?
Obviously it's just another fringe hater misstating the facts like they often do. I continue to be amazed that many people here continue to give this any attention.
It's me T.
Some random thoughts:
Deanna isn't as dumb as she looks. How many other make-up artists of TV personalities names do you know?
If Kate doesn't have very much "help", the why are there labels and instructions EVERYWHERE? Just how many people are doing laundry that they just cant seem to remember the "uniform policy" or whether to leave the washer door open or closed? Why are there detailed documents all over the kitchen? It appears to list lunch and dinner "feeding" instructions. Are the "helper(S)" or BFF of the moment struggling to remember which kids likes mayo and who likes mustard, perhaps they need explicit directions to find the proper shelf for the peanut butter? Whether her help is PT, FT, or imaginary, the turnover rate appears to be high.
30 mins total for 6 showers??? Does that include dressing and undressing? Are there "detailed instructions " for that too? 1 min each to un/re-dress, 1 min per rinse, 1 min soap and lather, 1 min post rinse? Hmmmm....pretty precise, and yet shoes with laces elude them....
Why the need to bake so much bread. They showed 4 sandwiches (8 slices of bread total) and the showed the lunch boxes with a half sandwich in each. So again??? Don't even get me started on splitting 1/2 an avocado 8 ways.
Of course the kids didn't seem excited to welcome her home, and she didn't seem exactly thrilled to see them either. She couldn't even bother to 2 hand hug them, individually hug them, or even put her bag down.
For someone so eager to chastise Kendra for not having more "family" time, I can't find it listed anywhere on her schedule either. No family yoga/exercise, no time scheduled to give help with homework, no bedtime stories.....I guess she won't be helping them get ready for that spelling bee since she can't seem to spell some keywords like: hypocrite, individual, options, gratitude, or JOY!
She has no true expression of happiness. Even when "playing" with hank jr, she basically just pointed and corrected him. Where's the affection?
I wonder if Kendra was less upset about the kids having to do chores, more upset about the rigid control that she was encouraged to enforce. Either way, those tears looked real. Dare I hope that they were due to her recognizing her own complicity in enacting this farce?
Kate is very near the end of her rope. What was she crying about exactly? Kendra validating kate's concerns brought her to tears? Really??? It certainly doesn't take more than an arm chair psychiatrist to realize that the cracks in her veneer are going to take more than Botox to hide this time...
Frankly I can't moderate comments in a language I don't speak! Sorry!
It's me T.
Paper Plates Forever! Yay! said... 176
Nope it's not you. I agree she is stilted & cold. Excellent post!
I continue to be amazed that many people here continue to give this any attention.
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I'm sorry. I asked the question because I didn't know if Robert had reported it. I thought that if he did call CPS, then maybe he had some insider info about the results. I didn't think that someone just pulled the "house was clean and neat" out of their head, but I guess they did. There was so much of the book that I skipped (particularly the animal abuse) because I just couldn't stand to read it.
Understood warmth. I guess I've noticed others seem to post ridiculous tweets and then ask rhetorically if its true knowing full well of course not. Giving these people attention is getting old.
T, I haven't watched the video, but I sure do appreciate your mentioning the PostIt notes everywhere. Kate is known for those.
I would guess they are for Kendra. Here's where the flour is kept, here's where the prison plates are kept, the chicken cacciatore
is in the garage freezer....
That way Kendra wouldn't have to put her hands on Kate's cupboard handles unnecessarily and require Kate to scrub them all with Qtips when she got home. Just the ones Kendra touched.
You may be right, though. She may have maids from a cleaning service come in, and they are not always the same people each time. They may need the "how to do it right" notes.
For someone who doesn't like "clutterish", she sure does like to clutter up the place with her notes.
Anonymous "T", I don't know why there's a problem trying to sign with a name on iPad. I just tried to do it using the Name/Url option and the keyboard won't come up. I haven't had to sign in that way for so long, that I don't remember if it ever did work! lol
I forgot to mention I thought it was hysterical Kate worked into her blog post her birthday is coming up even though the blog had absolutely nothing to do with HER birthday. Heck, I'm lucky if I can even remember my birthday let alone think to mention it. I've never seen someone older than 12 work so hard to work their birthday into the conversation. LOL!!
I get this odd sense from her blog this is some kind of pre-emptive strike so that when the kids do act out she can say, see, I told you so, those darn kids and their hormones! I've been warning of this for years! Convenient way to dismiss anything of merit they might say about her.
I just read some of the comments at TheStir. One person asked if anyone had seen this topic from Kate before. Has she already talked about her kids turning 13 this year? In other words, is she rehashing material? Does anyone remember?
When they showed the package of kate and the kids for CWS, kate was feeding the kids pancakes. One of the boys was there waiting for his portion and kate grabbed 2 pancakes and TOSSED THEM onto his plate with her bare hands. She has the big brass set, I tell you. Why doesn't she just make a big platter full and take it to the table and let the kids get what they want! Any leftovers can be frozen.
She could also, instead of tweeting, make a big batch of pancakes and freeze them and put them in a pan and heat them up in the oven with butter on them. YUM! Quick time saver.
It makes me sick that she is earning even more money off the backs of the boys for being the chicken coop caregivers! She is getting a nice tax credit for her "farm". There is no way she is giving away the eggs. To me they were boxed up ready to go to where ever she sells them.
She had a wire basket in the fridge photo with it filled with eggs in the back.
Also, about the lunch bags all the same. UGH! Remember when they bought school supplies and backpacks and Alexis? wanted a lizard? aguina backpack because she loves animals and kate refused.
She is such a...you know.
Thought about Kendra. She likes to go out with her friends and party and get drunk. And I don't want this to happen at all, but what if one night she is out, gets really bad drunk and her driver comes and gets her out of the club because he got a call that Hankjr. was taken to the hospital to the ER and she is in no shape to make a medical decisions for him. Hank SR. has to do it. All she can do when she gets there is she is passed out in the waiting room. That is something to think about Kendra.
Robert please hurry!!!
Kate is a twit said... 144
I wonder if one of the twins were somewhere with friends, and they had a friend take it for them. Also, it looks like the logo on their shirts was blurred out. Isn't it Mady that uses some kind of photo-shopping program?
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That sweatshirt thing is kind of odd isn't it? It may be a school logo so makes sense to blur it out.
If I had to guess though, I would say that it's just some clothing brand logo and Kate went to the company asking for money to have their logo appear in a picture on her blog. When they were like "lolno" she blurred them out.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 195
''I get this odd sense from her blog this is some kind of pre-emptive strike...''
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I agree that KK is gearing up for something, but I'm not sure it is something the girls have done. Remember all the platitudes?.......
''Always remember: you're braver than you believe, stronger than you seem, and smarter than you think.
Anytime you suffer a setback or disappointment, put your head down and plow ahead.
You're a winner. The tests of life are not meant to break you, but to make you.
Don't lower your standards for any friendship, job, relationship, or opportunity. If
What looks like a loss may be the event which is responsible for helping to produce the major achievement of your life.''
I'm wondering if the CWS w/o Jon's knowledge caused some changes in custody. I'm convinced it is either that or she was informed that Robert's book can no longer be stopped. In my 'perfect' world, it would be both!!
fidosmommy said... 153
I want to be there the moment someone in authority tells Kate Gosselin that she must repay the state for the nurse. I would hire my own camera and production crew for that little
special moment. So sad it will never happen.
Pennsylvania government has moved on, I'm sure.
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Do you expect every individual who ever received a government benefit to pay back the state/feds if they become financially secure? Or does the rule only apply to Kate Gosselin?
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