Kate with swap places with Kendra Wilkinson, tonight at 8 EST on ABC. Also this morning, Kate will be a guest on The View.
Tuesday, February 26, 2013
Discussion Thread: Celebrity Wife Swap
Kate with swap places with Kendra Wilkinson, tonight at 8 EST on ABC. Also this morning, Kate will be a guest on The View.
1256 sediments (sic) from readers:
«Oldest ‹Older 1001 – 1200 of 1256 Newer› Newest»It is plain to see how Kate has disfigured herself. She even looks hard. Ever hug a hard person? Nothing like hugging a soft, fluffy granny!
Someone else who has ruined her looks, to my way of thinking, is Marie Osmond. She looks absolutely awful. She used to be reasonably pretty, but those huge, disgusting lips and arched eye brows look terrible.
Winter Wonderland said...181
JudyK mentioned that she thought Kate has a live-in.
I was being sarcastic when I said that about someone hiding in the house....LOL.
My point was that some people seem to think she has a relationship going with someone and is bs'ing about being single. The assumption seems to be that it is Steve. But no one has ever seen her with a guy around town so I doubt that theory....
They call her Mommy because it sounds better when you say Mommy Dearest instead of Mom Dearest.
Lol, love it!
It's interesting (to me, since I'm a huge linguistics nerd) to hear what people called their family members. It has so much to do with race, culture, time, region, etc– same language, so many different variables!
I'm trying to remember what my older brothers and I call/called our parents...I did "Mommy and Daddy" until I was about 5, and then it was "Mom and Dad". My middle-older brother seems to switch between "Mom/Ma" and "Dad/Pops" and the oldest almost exclusively uses "Ma" and "Pops".
Our parents are from the South and I know my father called his parents by their first names, as I, my brothers and our cousins did. Never once called them "Grandma and Grandpa"– but did quite often call them "Sir" and "Ma'am"!
Had something exciting happen yesterday to me! I was at dialysis and on my computer and came across an article about Tony and Wynonna being partners on DWTS. I already knew that they were, but there was a picture of them and they were both so excited and smiling. I believe Wynonna will give her all to win. Well, I sent her a tweet and I thought, if she answers that would be great, if she don't that is fine. Well, SHE DID! I was so excited! We got a conversation going on a little bit. She tweeted me 3 times! The last one said, Keep the faith dear! Made my day!
If you would like to see a morph of kates face in full demon mode, look on youtube at the 100th episode when Emeril Lagasse came to cook for them! Emeril caught on really quick what a evil witch she was when Jon told Emeril that it was their 100th episode and Emeril said, I don't see how you made it! Then check out when kate got the big red spatula out and hit Emerils forearm hard, and then did it again and then he started rubbing his arm (you know it was stinging bad) and he turned and looked at her like WTHeck? And then the DEMON DEATH STARE! I promise you, you can see that DEMON in full force! Her face went triangle! I believe she is eat up with demons. When Emeril looked back at her rubbing his arm, I believe she thought it was one of the boys because who would do Emeril Lagasse that way when he was so nice and accomodating and flying across the country to cook that witch something to eat. I think it made Emeril sick to see the kids eating off the prison issue trays.
I think the children when they get of legal age need to sue the following people to recoup their loss of their childhood:
Their mother, kate kreider
Steve Neild (who clearly took advantage of the situation)
TLC,INC
CPS of the county they live in (for not doing enough to protect them, IF they were contacted.
Circle 8 productions
All the people who worked there over the years knowing abuse that was going on and said nothing, even though a NDC would be void reporting child abuse. This proves that kate threatened them verbally that if they told she had the NDC. I can't stand her.
I hope they recieve a billion dollars in punitive and compensatory damages.
I believe Steve Neild has made several million dollars on his job of boobyguard, purse carrier, and breast implant advisor!
VCU just beat Butler 84 to 52! Yes, Butler lost by 32 points!
Compared to NCAA basketball, all reality TV is pathetically boring. Especially when the home team wins in a spectacular fashion.
Kelly, so sorry about your dog.
Njay, thanks for sharing all your experiences. It gives a different perspective on the Kreider Kompound.
Ms Kreider is still boring.
Now I have to go watch some more basketball!
And Kelly- such condolences. I've had to escort many a pet over the so-called "Rainbow Bridge" and although it's never easy, they each live on in my heart. Maybe this will help in a way...
When my parents had to put our 15-year-old mini schnauzer down, my mother was devastated. He was like another child to her. She went into a deep depression and nothing my father or I could do could make up for losing "her boy".
Several months later, on a whim, my parents went to a seance at a spiritualist church halfway across the country from where they lived. They'd never been there before and knew absolutely no one there. In the middle of the service, one of the psychics came up to my mother and told her, "There is a little grey dog sitting next to you right now. He's been with you for awhile, and he's going to stay right next to you as long as you want him to. He's happy, and he loves you very much."
Winston may not be with you in body, but he'll always be with you in spirit as long as you want him there.
Do you think the kids' friends have to sign confidentiality agreements? I'm serious.
The only man that has been consistently in Kate's life since even before she divorced Jon was Steve. I think her grand plan was to steal him from his wife with the planting of an affair in the mags and treat him like a member of the family. No mention of him recently, so I wonder if he had enough. For sure he can't make a living as her road manager/bodyguard since there's nothing to manage anymore.
Berks- your story was so funny! thanks for posting. It was great they way you posted it, we don't need the info on the kids, and someone who would of gotten in trouble, just on kate, kate is fair game! lol
So funny them talking about her procedures and idiotic quest for fame.
Fame!
I want to be on tee vee FOREVER
I want to learn (but no knows how to teach me) how to fly high
My face is coming together
People will see me and cry
Fame!
I'm gonna live forever
Sheeple remember my name!
Remember! Remember! Remember!
Oh Kelly,so sad you lost your boy, Winston. It sounds like he had a very loving and secure life with you and your family. Remember to check out the Rainbow Bridge, when the rescue Yorkie died in my arms in January, many posters here told me about it, hope you visit it, a wonderful place to grieve, and tell the best stories about Winston. Lots of dog lovers post here.
Kate dropped the Disney named again today. She's probably getting antsy because her kids don't have their own show yet.
She is such a liar. Anyone who eats organic foods wouldnt' be shilling Coffeemate chemical products for years the way she has.
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I have never drank so I'm not sure about my question. I have seen tv documentaries on alcoholism that alcoholic's poor alcohol into their coffee as a way to disguise them drinking it in public. I have often wondered if that is why Kate talks about needing so much and you rarely see her without a cup, no matter where she is.
I think I would watch a dating show. I would love to see Kate have to kiss a stranger on the lips. Her manic, fake OCD would make it great to watch. Goodness, she squirmed when Jon tried to show her a little affection. I also remember one of the crew mentioned they rarely kiss and she just laughed all giddishly and said "don't we? Yes we do. Really? nooo".
Berks Neighbor said... 129
I would absolutely hate to be the laughing stock of my community, but Kate puts herself and the kids out there time and time again.
One of these women KNOW the kids' ___(I decided not to put the title of this person's job out there as I don't want this person to get into trouble)_____ and I will leave what they said about the kids out of it, but I can tell you that Kate is a fricken' liar about nearly everything (like we didn't know it).
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That's another thing about Kate that shows what a self-centered witch she is. It doesn't matter to her that people talk about her (or so she says) but what about her kids? They HAVE to associate with their schoolmates. It has to be embarrassing for them to know that people talk about their mother so derogatively.
Those kids probably get more than their share of pointing and whispering from other kids at school. If what Kate said about being bullied in middle school is true (" I was definitely bullied back then and the cruel comments and mean displays are memories that have left deep scars that remain with me til this day.") then why does she subject her children to such a public life? Wouldn't she want to protect them from being treated like she was knowing firsthand how awful it feels?
njay said... 12
oops, brain fart. Pour not poor. I knew it looked wrong. hehe (red faced.)
Kelly, my deep sympathies on the loss of your dear friend, Winston. There are no words that can comfort during this grief, I know. Hope your memories are filled with joy and smiles.
This is Dwindle, really truly. Google wont let me in today.
The whole CWS episode is currently on YouTube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0UyDIaEalM
Some observations:
Mady said that she watched Kendra's show when she "was younger". So she must have watched "Girls Next Door" because Kendra's current show didn't start until June/12. Hmmm....
Those poor boys are like fragile shells. She's broken their spirit completely. Normal boys should be rambunctious and full of zest. It's not normal for all three to be so quiet and sad-looking.
In the final meeting, Kate had the nerve to say to Kendra "...you don't care". The nerve! She also told Kendra that she "has the ability to have it all". Well, Kendra does have it all. Her husband is a sweetie who clearly adores her and their son. Kate disparages their current lifestyle on the basis that Hank does too much. She clearly doesn't remember how she badgered Jon for not doing enough. You can't win with Kate.
She comes across as a bitter, angry, judgemental person who is resentful that other people have achieved the lifestyle she so craves. Unfortunately it all shows in her facial expressions and it's very unattractive.
I think Kate realizes that her reality does not match her persona and that she will soon lose her iron-clad grip on the very beings that made her current life possible, her kids. The road ahead is going to be very rough.
Ooops...Kendra did have another show called "Kendra" which started in 2009. That's the one Mady may have been referring too.
Actually, What the Kids Want, we've discussed here many times how the kids might feel about this blog and other blogs that have been calling Kate out and exposing the child exploitation against them. Some people have been very worried it could upset them. Others who have experienced abuse said it would more than likely make them feel validated. The jury is out, but it's simply not true we aren't concerned about it or haven't discussed it. I wonder about it often.
FOREVER the enablers have said, "Let Kate raise her kids as SHE SEES FIT." Now Kate has the nerve to tell a happy family how to raise THEIR kid?
Where's the backlash from the fans?
Beuller?
Also, I do agree that Kendra should spend more time with Little Hank but that's HER call, not someone who has left her kids for weeks at a time and says she prefers to only be home every other week?
The hypocrasy is BLINDING.
I have never drank so I'm not sure about my question. I have seen tv documentaries on alcoholism that alcoholic's poor alcohol into their coffee as a way to disguise them drinking it in public. I have often wondered if that is why Kate talks about needing so much and you rarely see her without a cup, no matter where she is.
I doubt that's the case. Having known/been brought up around my fair share of alcoholics, the ones that bother to "disguise" their drinking don't call any attention to it- thus the secrecy.
As an example, a big "secret/public drinking" thing is filling a plastic water bottle with vodka (vodka doesn't tend to have an odor, unlike, say, tequila). Or, whiskey in an apple juice bottle (sadly, a "go to" choice for alcoholic mothers of young children). KK has tweeted pictures of wine and is open to being filmed downing shots– secrecy is not her concern. Shilling, on the other hand? Oh, hell yes.
Kelly, I'm sorry to hear about your doggy Winston. Be comforted in knowing how much love you and your family gave him and that he had a happy life with you.
My wish is that all dogs could be lucky enough to be so deeply loved. Hugs.
I'm not exactly seeing signs that Kate is an alcoholic. What I do see is she is a little immature or out of touch about her liquor, just like most everything else. For instance not even bothering to wait until she hits the road for her foot licking trip to NYC, but pre-gaming blending them right here in the kitchen in front of the kid . Hitting the liquor when her kids are crying still shocked that she is going to be abandoning them for the weekend.
AMD said... 17
The whole CWS episode is currently on YouTube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0UyDIaEalM
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Thanks AMD.
At the round table, when they discuss the exchange, Deanna reminds of a faithful dog just waiting for Kate to throw a milkbone at her. Good dog Deanna. Good puppy.
I ALMOST feel sorry for her knowing what's going to happen when Kate is through with her.
I watched CWS on YouTube and the boys did look disengaged, except for when they were running around like crazy at the game place. Looked fun. The girls were far more lively, but Cara is certainly the sensitive one.
But, my gosh, what's with everyone thinking Kate, poor, poor Kate, never takes any time for herself? It's like I'm living in an alternate universe when Kate spoils herself with pampering, vacations, trips....
Also, the hypocrisy of saying that Kendra needs to spend more time with Kate when in her ideal world, she be away from her kids every other week.
Does no one remember this?
Kelly, so sorry about Winston. It has to be so painful but I hope you feel him around you.
I don't think Kate's an alcoholic, but who knows. She certainly took to swilling down wine and shots like a duck to water.
Tucker I'm beginning to think we're the only ones with an accurate memory of what kate has said and done. It's like they don't even try to resolve the inconsistencies anymore they just pretend it never happened. Bizarre!
If CWS gets decent ratings next week will that be due to Kate being on the week before?
I actually like the show (sometimes) but didn't watch last week.
For a 40 min show minus commercials, you heard and saw 3 boys running, laughing and speaking very loudy when questions were asked and very vocal about not wanting to eat downstairs on the floor. The girls other than Mady were quieter but laughing and smiling. You will never see boys laugh and smile like a girl does. Obviously you don't have sons and daughters and don't understand that boys are not giggly like an 8 yr old girl is. Kendra was right, Mady is smarter than she is by miles. The constant traveling those children did opened worlds to them that other children may not experience until they are much older and travel after leaving home. All of those children have great manners.
In fact checking something for the recap I stumbled upon some pics of Brooke Shields with light makeup. If she has had work it's subtle. She looks normal. She looks fresh faced and well-rested. She's exactly 10 years older than Kate but only looks a few years older. I hope she accepts the odd wrinkle and doesn't mess with what she has, because she looks fine.
That's what I don't understand is I've never seen someone look bad who didn't have any work AND doesn't smoke/uses sunscreen/doesn't abuse drugs, is healthy. People age just fine as long as you take care of the things you can control.
Oh brother, I looked at the pics on Getty. She sure "worked" it out of C^llin and Al&xis. They look forlorn. Those shirts that she makes the boys wear (white with hearts) look like girl shirts to me and I have never seen another single person in the whole wide world wear those shirts. I know they are expensive but they look cheap. Imagine trying to keep those from getting visibly dirty, so they can be worn again and again before they are washed. I guess they are trendy, but I wouldn't know.
I should add they were paparazzi photos on the street so I doubt anyone bothered in photoshop to help her out.
At least Al^xis was smiling in one of them but the boys, so sad for then,
Obviously you don't have sons and daughters and don't understand that boys are not giggly like an 8 yr old girl is.
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I don't expect a boy to be giggly. I do expect a boy to not be a zombie.
Also inside information must be verified. It will not be published otherwise. Strict rule.
The constant traveling those children did opened worlds to them that other children may not experience until they are much older and travel after leaving home.
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How can the Tups even possibly remember the vast majority of the traveling they did? For most children most things before kindergarten is a big blur with only main events like a birth or death or illness making a few foggy marks.
The boys seem to be so over the whole line up and smile thing, and one seems to separate himself from the rest. I saw lots of pics of Shoka, some inside the house, which is good.
What have those kids "learned" from Traveling?
"Stand here"
"Smile"
"I don't want to camp, Let's leave"
"Grand Canyon is wasted space."
"Who's on Mt. Rushmore and this is boring, let's go"
"SMILE"
"Stand here"
"SMILE, SO WHAT IF I JUST PULLED YOUR ARM OUT OF THE SOCKET?
Polite kids with manners don't step on people's food or call people "servants."
You are delusional.
Notice that the Admin of this site brings up alcoholism, you are one sad person to do that.
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First of all, I didn't bring this issue up. Someone else did. Second of all, I also didn't say she was an alcoholic. I said in fact I did NOT think she was. Kate has put her drinking out there, numerous times, including doing it in front of the kids. It is fair game. But like I said, I don't see most of the classic signs.
I don't believe any real educator of these kids would reveal personal information about them. I believe they would respect their privacy. If you are their educator, have you gotten permission from Kate to post here?
Well, I just listened to a radio interview Kendra did on the The BigJ Show for CWS promotion. It was on youtube and it was called Kendra Wilkinson Interview.
She said and verified what we all thought. She said that when she met the kids & told them she was going to be their play mommy for a week (we saw this on the show) that all the kids "looked at her like she was the devil". And 3 to 4 times she said that she really had to work hard on winning them over emotionally. She said the kids were very by the book. It was like they had little alarm clocks in their heads. Example: 5:35 toothbrushing, 5:50 go upstairs, 6:00 read a book (I am making up the times and activities) but she gave similar to illustrate how they are literally programmed like robots to do such and such at such and such time.
Kate wants the world to think the kids were happily on board. Really? They looked at her like she was the devil and Kendra said at least three times how she had to work hard at winning them over emotionally. It sounds like Robert was correct.
Not to mention, what's wrong with holding off on major traveling until you are older, at least the teen years and heck even into adulthood? Most of the big trips I have taken in my life started when I was 16. My parents usually took us to places within a day's drive. I never once had a thought gosh I wish I could have done that when I was 5, or 6, or 7. In fact I have the opposite reaction. I said several times thank goodness I went here now that I'm old enough to actually appreciate it!
The odd trip to Disneyworld or Six Flags, sure whatever. But big trips with kids this age like to Australia are usually long, tiring and stressful. You have to work very hard to help them appreciate it and get anything out of it. Most kids just want to be at home and hang out with their friends.
Kate wanted the trips for HER not for these kids and I can't be convinced otherwise. If she really cared about the kids getting trips she would have found a way to take them to Australia a second time when she went for the benefit.
Also to add to what others have said these were not normal family vacations these were working traveling sets with filming locations and events to schedule and get to, interviews to do, production crew swarming around you, and so on. Trying to compare this situation to a normal family vacation is simply apples and oranges.
AuntieAnn said... 14
'' If what Kate said about being bullied in middle school is true (" I was definitely bullied back then and the cruel comments and mean displays are memories that have left deep scars that remain with me til this day.") then why does she subject her children to such a public life? Wouldn't she want to protect them from being treated like she was knowing firsthand how awful it feels?''
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AuntieAnn, that is an interesting question. IF KK was bullied in school, you would logically think that she'd want to do whatever she could to prevent her children from suffering the same fate. You would also think that abused children would, as parents, never abuse their children because they know how horrid it is to be abused. However, we know it is much more likely for abused children to abuse their own children. It takes steely determination to break the circle of abuse, and those who break that circle of abuse are sadly the exception, not the rule.
In KK's case, I suspect it never enters her mind that anything that SHE does would cause her children to be teased or bullied. She is so convinced that everything she does is right, that anything pointing to the contrary becomes (in her mind) proof that they are ''jealous'' or ''haters''.
Actually, I believe the harsh truth is, that KK simply does. not. care. about her children's feelings. All KK cares about is maintaining robotic slaves as children, and everything else is about MMMEEEE.
Robots. Great parenting.
Sad kids looking like zombies. Yes, they are so happy.
Wow Kendra isn't holding back. She makes these kids sound like something like Stockholm syndrome.
The only traveling I remember as a very young child is swimming meets. Well, not individual swimming meets so much, but going to a whole lot of them. They all sort of blur together in my memory banks. Once I got to be a little older I could differentiate and could remember the ones in Missouri and the ones in Indiana and the ones in Kentucky and the ones in Ohio.
Up until then, nope. The travel was wasted on me. I just dove in the water and swam in whichever pool we ended up being in.
Trips to Canada were few and far between, but they happened becsuse we had family there. I don't recall one thing about any of them pre-K
except everyone being sad because somebody had died. Later, I remember the trips themselves as well as what we did when we got there.
Point: trips for young children might not be
such wonderful, life enriching experiences. They will have to see it on film or in pictures to remember what they did, because I'm willing to bet it's not in their memory banks.
Remember in People magazine she gave an interview around the kids' birthday and Mother's Day and Kate admitted that she was gone over 20+ days in May (2009)that year. That was when Jon was a stay at home Dad and he even said on film during their TV show that Kate would just come home and repack and live again. This is when she was promoting her books with Steve. I would love for this to be in the recap. Preesi probably has the old People magazine for reference. In fact, I think Kate said that they were calling her the nanny's name.
You will never see boys laugh and smile like a girl does. Obviously you don't have sons and daughters and don't understand that boys are not giggly like an 8 yr old girl is.
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Gosh, I guess I better tell my boys to stop giggling and smiling so much because they aren't girls (and yes, I have both...several of each!)...
I do remember a trip we took to St. Louis when I was in first grade. My mom always made sure the hotels we stayed in had pools so we could swim. I remember my grandparents joining us.
I got an ear infection from all the swimming. I had to go to a doctor I didn't know and my grandma stayed with me in the hotel when I wasn't feeling well. This is what I remember about this trip. And also that we went to Laura Ingalls house. I couldn't tell you about the house but we went!
You know what, I would LOVE to go back to St. Louis. Because I feel like I've never even been there. I've "BEEN THERE," but I was only 7 for gosh sakes. I hadn't the first clue what that city was about, the history, the architecture, seeing a city through an adult's eyes. It was not a wasted trip because we had good family time especially grandparent time, but I did not get out of it what an adult would. That's the biggest trip we ever took until high school.
I also remember, when I wrote up a little essay for school that I had been to Laura Ingalls house, it must have been maybe 2 or 3 sentences, my first grade teacher thought I was lying and called my mom. LOL! My mom schooled her. My daughter doesn't lie!
Some boys giggle but it's usually at different things than girls do, like farts!
Berks Neighbor said... 129
Posted ... but it's in Netherland apparently :-)
Next time, could you ask this person why they don't speak up? Why NO ONE speaks up?
Robert Hoffman has put his neck out, and people like this, who know what a liar she is apparently, just let him sit out there on his own?
What's up with that? People in PA just don't want to get involved? don't have a back bone?
I see Kate, thinks she will be busy tonight: as in locking self in room drinking WINE! While her girls have sleepover.
Penny said... 38
What have those kids "learned" from Traveling?
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Um, that Kiwis, um, have no um, arms, and that FDR, um, is on Rushmore, and um, that the um, Grand Canyon is wasted um, space, and that um, you don't touch pizza without foil under penalty of severness, and that pine cones, um, can be picked up if nobody um, sees you?
An Educator said... 29
''You will never see boys laugh and smile like a girl does. Obviously you don't have sons and daughters and don't understand that boys are not giggly like an 8 yr old girl is''
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Educator...you forgot ::eyerolls::
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8
@MiloandJack it was not scary because it was straight from my heart--->place of love/concern/care. I appreciate advice 2 & wanted 2 help!
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She sounds so full of herself. Her arrogant, she wanted to help. Like she has SO much more wisdom than Hank and Kendra. What's sad is she doesn't realize that Hank and Kendra really don't need her help at all.
She could at least say, "for what it's worth" I offered up some advice. Geez.
What's up with that? People in PA just don't want to get involved? don't have a back bone?
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People in PA spoke up all the time during the Sandusky scandal. People went to the cops and educators and many others in positions of authority more times than can be counted. They were shot down.
It's not that they had no backbone. It's that no one would listen.
We were stationed in Germany when my son was young and we lived there for 3 years. We travelled all over Europe with him. He remembers bits and pieces of it but it did not open worlds to him. He was too young. He remembers things like going to Burger King in Paris or a German woman giving him Coke at a Fest.
localyocul said... 198
Some thoughts:
What RH said is true. Those kids looked very confused when Kendra showed up.
Cara looks very very sad.
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Did you notice that some of the kids still chewing on a small stuffed animal like they did when they were toddlers and had chewie toys? How sad and telling.
How funny, just as I went to hit publish, mom yelled to change my channel. It is Mommy Dearest. Too funny.
The maternal side of my family -- Grandmother, Aunts, Uncles and dozens of cousins -- all lived in New York. We traveled there once a year when I was a child.
I remember eating in Howard Johnson restaurants along the PA turnpike and playing travel games with my siblings.
I remember playing inside my Grandmother's home. She could have lived anywhere in the USA.
I didn't retain any history or flavor of the city of New York. In my opinion, travel does not "educate" most young children.
An Educator said...29 "you will never see boys laugh and smile like a girl does." Um, Educator, I beg to differ with you. My four year old grandson does nothing but laugh and smile. Why? Because that's what he has grown up with. We are a happy family and we show it. We love to laugh and just seeing my grandson puts a big smile on my face which in turn puts a big smile on his. Kids emulate what they see.
And Admin., I agree with boys and their farts. My grandson gets a big laugh out of his.
I noticed the girls using their stuffed toys for comfort. They all looked a bit confused but it did seem Kendra won them over for the most part. Kendra also was very honest about the kids finding it a bit scary and that they must miss their mom who just left for a week. It was also touching that she cried just thinking about those kids and how regimented everything is.
Definitely not Kate's "so excited, thumbs up". Not at all.
I think you have unreasonable expectations of your kids if you want them to get out of traveling what an adult would. It's fine to throw in a lesson or two here and there but to expect a kid to come back as if he just had a once in a lifetime experience that has enriched his life just isn't reality.
What I do think traveling IS good for is family time. Mom and dad aren't working, other friends and relatives sometimes come along, it's good to learn how to get along on the road and have fun and work together, and it's not bad for kids to learn to adapt to different circumstances, a different bed, different food, etc., without incident. But you need not travel 15 hours on an airplane to accomplish this. A trip to grandma's will do.
This is yet another case of Kate and her cronies imposing what they as adults want on innocent children.
People went to the cops and educators and many others in positions of authority more times than can be counted.
You can't count very high, can you?
People went to the cops and educators and many others in positions of authority more times than can be counted.
You can't count very high, can you?
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Read the reports. It's disgusting the number of people who were blown off.
Remona Blue said...
Actually, I believe the harsh truth is, that KK simply does. not. care. about her children's feelings. All KK cares about is maintaining robotic slaves as children, and everything else is about MMMEEEE.
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I agree Remona. If only she cared about her kids as much as she cares about herself. So sad.
I don't remember a lot of my vacation to DC and Philadelphia when I was 13. I was preoccupied with other things, sadly. I would LOVE to go back as an adult...I have been to downtown Philadelphia last summer, but would love to go to DC. Hopefully, this summer.
An Educator said... 29
You will never see boys laugh and smile like a girl does. Obviously you don't have sons and daughters and don't understand that boys are not giggly like an 8 yr old girl is.
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Oh geez. Thanks for dropping by Kate. Always a real thrill to hear from you. From watching your reality show and trying to decipher your stupid bogs, it's pretty obvious YOU don't understand a thing about raising happy, well-adjusted children.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 39
Notice that the Admin of this site brings up alcoholism, you are one sad person to do that.
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Admin, sorry you had to take my flack. I haven't read the original comment yet but to whoever wrote it, I NEVER accused Kate of being an alcoholic. I mentioned I saw tv shows on alcoholism and how alcoholics disguise their drinking. I wondered if maybe she did because in Roberts book, posts from her journal talks about alcohol and enjoying it more than she lets on. Also, to say she has been in a club only once to Kendra's friends is just a out and out lie from Hell. She went to a club with Jamie, a comedy club with Steve, and tweeted about about going to some with other hi class.. cough.. debutantes in New York.
I will digress about basing some of my suspicions from Roberts book, sense it can't be verified yet, but the other evidence stands strong about her lie about the clubs.
Oh, and the trip with Jaime? They started drinking way before they left, were drunk when they got there and still drank at the club.
Oh, and look on Robert's blog and see the monster drink in front of him and tell me he was at home.
Enough rant. I guess you have all now seen the upset side of me. I don't like others being blamed for what I may or may have not done. I have a pretty bad mouth don't I, or should I say fingers. hehe. Snark.
Njay don't apologize. Less than a week ago Kate was tossing back shots like a pro. Kate's drinking is fair game. And I did notice that you never accused her of anything, just asked a question. If Kate wishes us not to discuss her drinking, she can stop filming herself doing it.
I understand it's hard for her fans to feel this betrayed but it's not like we didn't ignore you. Especially for the Christian base, what a spit in the face.
Im not sure how warn got change to ignore lol.
But ignore should say WARN! :-)
Wasn't there also something we read about Kate promising Gina that she wouldn't drink so much this time if Kate threw an anniversary party for Gina's parents?
Just adding to your list of examples.
I have only one comment on the Getty Images pictures. It is absolutely tragic these kids, especially the boys, go to school in such horribly fitting clothes. They swim in those pants. No excuse for this, the world knows Ms Organic has enough money for clothes that fit, and I mean for the kids. She is just awful.
The one positive thing that came out of CWS filming is that we (the audience) got to see for ourselves that Kate has broken the boys spirit. It is obvious that the boys are second citizens in their own home.
Im not sure how warn got change to ignore lol.
But ignore should say WARN! :-)
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Are you imbibing tonight, admin? lol!! Just kidding...just kidding!!
I don't understand Kate criticizing little Hank's eating skills, when lo and behold, there's a picture of her cutting up pancakes for her almost 9 year olds. That's ridiculous.
Those kids should be sitting at the table and passing the food around themselves.
I can't get what reason Kate doles the food out and they have to come up and get it like it's a cafeteria.
@emmanews96
@MiloandJack @kateplusmy8 just sad if kids can't learn from that - all I'm saying. Kate's way (rigid schedule) is all they know : (
@Kateplusmy8
@emmanews96 @MiloandJack but they prefer it. Kids like to know what comes next and it's not rigid at all, just a schedule flow. Happy kids!
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Most people think her schedule is rigid. Kendra commented on it with tears in her eyes. Kate sees nothing "rigid" at all. They're "happy" because they don't know how to function without someone telling them minute to minute what to do, where, and how. The more she says about this, the clearer the picture becomes of their inflexible and controlled lifestyle.
She's tweeting that 2 more kids are getting braces.
@Kateplusmy8
Hope no1 at this 'braces on pizza sleepover' plans on sleeping! Wait,did I say some1(or 2?) r getting braces? #Oops! http://img.ly/t6F3
ZeldaZee said... 21
Thank you for explaining that for me. It does make sense.
@Kateplusmy8
@emmanews96 @MiloandJack but they prefer it. Kids like to know what comes next and it's not rigid at all, just a schedule flow. Happy kids!
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Again there is nothing wrong with SCHEDULING kids. But she takes it over the top. 6-0-3 they come down the stairs. 6:03!
Come on, she's nuts. When you are making another mother CRY with how strict you are, something is wrong.
@MiloandJack
@Kateplusmy8 @emmanews96 When Kendra was crying abt kids doin chores I had 2chuckle..said2myself..that girl sure didn't grow up on the farm!
@Kateplusmy8
@MiloandJack @emmanews96 kids didn't know y either! But that's the point of WS,2learn others ways!Kids r proud of capability/responsibility
@MiloandJack
@Kateplusmy8 And proud they should be! If U get sick...ur kids can run that house at least 4 a bit! Can get by til U get a lil rest! :)
@emmanews96
@Kateplusmy8 @miloandjack don't think it was just over chores. Was sad at lack of kid-time, flexibility, fun. That's what it seemed like.
No words for this. Milo - the kids should not have to run the household if something happens to Kate - that's not the point.
IDK who emmanews96 is, but at least she gets it. Impressed she's broached this and hasn't gotten the "blocked" kiss off by Kate yet.
What's up with that? People in PA just don't want to get involved? don't have a back bone?
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Hey! Watch it! I have a backbone, although painful at times. You might be interested in knowing that PA is in the process of passing a package of child protection bills, some of which have passed the House. If you're interested, you can read about it below.
PA has been taking steps to protect the child, both in terms of child labor laws and child abuse laws. Finally.
http://www.ronmarsico.com/NewsItem.aspx?NewsID=16475
Tucker's Mom said... 75
''I can't get what reason Kate doles the food out and they have to come up and get it like it's a cafeteria.''
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I suspect that KK would use the excuse that doling out the food is her way of being ''organized'', instead of being controlling. Abuse is all about control. As CWS proved, KK controls every minute of the children's life. It is very confusing to 'normal' people why KK must control every bite of food or drink that those children eat/drink, because that behavior is NOT normal. In my opinion, controlling the children's food is yet another method of KK's abuse of her children.
I think a lot of states would have acted exactly the same way as those in authority in PA acted. This tragedy just happened to not have happened there. They got lucky. A lot of it does go back to culture. Others have described PA as "have all your kids in compliance like ducks in a row", dating back to Amish, German and other conservative influences. But, much of the East is like this, much of the East traces their roots to conservative religious founders that has continued even today. I think it could have happened many other places with the same or god forbid even worse results.
It's a shame PA has become the poster child for inaction, but someone had to take the brunt of it. Now they can be the poster child for reform.
@juliectimmons
@MiloandJack @kateplusmy8 @abc with the high ratings CWS got I hope they consider it.
@Kateplusmy8
@juliectimmons @MiloandJack @abc can't wait to do more tv.I didn't realize until filming CWS just how much I missed it!Feel 'at home' in it!
@HaileyGracesDad
@Kateplusmy8 you seemed really more at ease/relaxed on wifeswap.it was nice seeing a new side.
@Kateplusmy8
@HaileyGracesDad I felt so 'in my skin' in that shoot. Was so comfortable and at ease. I'm in a better place in life now so that helps 2!
Excuse me - I need to barf.
I just watched the CWS and I am so pissed. The whole thing was Kate had no time to herself and she needed to relax. This is a huge lie and hugh deception she is putting out to the general public.
I wish someone would write a professional detailed article detailing all the "me" time Kate has had to herself in the past 8 years. All the trips (like Austrilia, Cancun (People cover shot), DWTS ( use the calendar for days away from kids), all the marathron runs and the many days she takes, all the NY trips for her hair and fancy luncheon. All the NY trips for the numerous promotion entertainment shows she had done in New York and California(probably over 50 easily). She stays at The Essex for days at a time. All the Southern Woman Shows that she was by herself for days at a time, The Kentucky Derby, again, days by herself, california trips with Maddie for days, book tours where she was gone for over 20 days in May 2009 and all the other time away for her book signings. All the manicures, pedicures, tanning. All the shopping (remember a lady in Fla. closed her shop for her, in fact for the orange strapless dress she wore in CWS). Also the many days holed up in a hotel writing her 3 books with Zonverdan. And for her cookbook that was finished (2009) Jon said she went away for a long time because all the receipes had to be tested.
Not to mention the kids are gone from 7am to 4 pm. She had no job. And the kids are gone every other weekend. And the kids are in their beds by
8pm every week night. Even the twins are in bed by 9pm or so. (Refer to her manual for exact times).
Don't forgot the many weekends Jon and Kate went to different cities for church talks without the kids. Even the time away without the kids for her stomach surgery and hair plugs when the kids were all sick. And she even told Jon in 2007/08 that the money that people sent her she used for massages. All the trips that are documented in their 150 tv episodes where Kate is away by herself. For instance, for Jon's 30th birthday they went to Florida without the kids for days at a time.
And all the help that Kate has had in the past 8 years in unreal. Kate has admitted in twitter and on tv that she just got rid of her p/t maid. She had admitted she has a p/t laundry person, pool guy, lawn guy, snow blower guy, p/t babysitters and full-time sitters galore. How about the hours and hours tweeting away. And the p/t homework helper she has.
The first thing Deanna said to Kendra is that Kate does everything herself. And at the meeting Deanna said that she agreed with Hank that Kate needs to not feel guilty taking 30 minutes to herself. WTF!!!!!!!!
And did you notice that when Kendra took the kids to the Family Fun Center that she was in charge of all 8 with no helper. Kate never takes the kids out without a helper or even 2.
The general public needs to be aware of this and this is the time for it. Does anyone have any ideas how we can do this? This program makes the timing perfect.
I am sure all of you can add numerous other times that Kate has taken for herself.
And, not giving them a choice has nothing to do with helping them with a schedule, and everything to do with control. There is absolutely no reason children this age can't pick their own seats or have input on the family menus, within reason. There is also no reason they can't cut their own food.
If fighting ensues, they go to their rooms or lose other privileges like cell phones. They need to learn how to make simple decisions without a battle. A few times in their rooms and they'll stop, done.
I want Kate to explain what any of those examples has to do with "scheduling." If anything, it would SAVE time if she just let them sort out their problems among them and stop wasting her breath interfering.
@HaileyGracesDad I felt so 'in my skin' in that shoot. Was so comfortable and at ease.
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There you have it. Kate was comfortable and at ease being a vile person. She was in her skin.
No excuses for her behavior, she is owning it.
Kendra seemed upset when she left the Gosselin house (I can't bring myself to call that place a home). She said she had made a connection to those kids. I think it she had that feeling you get when you leave an animal shelter. You know the animals are being fed and watered, but they all have that 'take me with you' look on their faces.
Kate, on the other hand only cried when SHE was told she needed to relax and take more time for herself. Waa waaa. Always about her.
Oh, remember when Jon and Kate separated in 2009, Kate had to leave the house for days at at time while Jon had custody. That was days away without any kids.
Oh sure, another privacy boundary breached - smile snd show Mommy's twitter friends those braces, kids. And that is what they did on spring break, Gosselin style.
When the "littles" were toddlers, their way of settling issues was to clobber each other. Kate didn't seem to be interested in helping out then very often. Once or twice, yes, but she seemed to have the idea they could settle it on their own. I'm surprised there weren't trips to the ER from their "settling" things.
Kate needed to learn long ago the line between
benign neglect and total control/interference.
Somewhere in there is the proper way to raise a
group of children.
Remember when she was on camera in the basement and the children were literally screaming? There were other noises, too. Kate paused for a second - a second - and kept on talking. That might have been a time to go upstairs and be a parent. Unless, of course, the never seen/never dicusswed babysitter was supposed to take care of it.
Kate knows nothing about raising children. The morning that Kate and Little Hank were at the breakfast table, Kate was making very noticeable, skink eye at him and she was saying that she was going to be in charge today not him. That is not the way to handle that at all. She was making it confrontational and drawing a line in the sand with a 2/12 yr. old telling him that she was in charge. Go back and watch it. She was in essence bullying him into submission with her faces and eyes. It was terrible.
Leslie
And I loved the way Hank caught her making faces at him and he called her out on it.
Any man that is really interested in dating Kate needs to really watch this show closely. And Kate said aloud that Hank knew she was right. HA! Hank handled himself beautifully but Kate was being a bitch to him. And her jealously was so obvious.
Kate tweeted recently that she was not paying for any of her kids wedding unless they waited until they were 30. I think Kate knows she blew it by having 8 kids on purpose in her 20's. She missed out on a lot of fun and dating in her 20's and this CWS and Hank brought all this to focus for her.
And, not giving them a choice has nothing to do with helping them with a schedule, and everything to do with control. There is absolutely no reason children this age can't pick their own seats or have input on the family menus, within reason. There is also no reason they can't cut their own food.
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She's raising little Stepford girls and Stepford boys. They are being programmed in all aspects of their lives. Make no mistake about it -- when they grow up, they will have some kind of OCD, whether it takes the form of not being able to do anything unless it's under the direction of someone in authority, not being able to make decisions on their own, or being very inflexible in daily routines. Emotionally, these kids are going to have problems, whether it's in their social interaction with others, or in the privacy of their own homes. Kids may like knowing what comes next, but they certainly don't like their lives orchestrated by another person to the point that they watch the clock to stay on a routine.
Regarding the sleepover. Kate reads blogs and Twitter criticisms. The only reason she's mentioning the sleepover is to prove that she allows the kids to have friends in their home.
Of course, being Milo, she just had to ask this question:
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack
@Kateplusmy8 Ha..Kate did it surprise U that Mady already knew who Kendra was fr having watched her show? LOL #CuriousPreTeen :)
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8
@MiloandJack I had NO idea she had seen her show! I knew she'd know her from DWTS but we had to talk after seeing THAT comment! :/
I can just imagine how that talk went.
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8
@MiloandJack I had NO idea she had seen her show!
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For all her "control" the kids don't seem to respect it. They rebel and break her stupid rules behind her back and she hasn't the first clue. Next time it won't be just a little t.v. show.
I think some kids will end up with OCD but I think some kids will have the complete opposite reaction and be total slobs, feeling like they did their time for 18 long years and never want to clean again.
And did you notice that when Kendra took the kids to the Family Fun Center that she was in charge of all 8 with no helper. Kate never takes the kids out without a helper or even 2.
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...and I'm assuming that no chaos ensued, as Kate claims happens if she takes the kids to movies! I didn't watch CWS and have no intention of doing so. Could it be that there was a helper there (Deanna?) and she just wasn't filmed? Regardless, the fact is that it's been reported that the kids went out and enjoyed themselves without crowds swarming them or interrupting their fun.
I took a look at the picture that Kate tweeted for the braces on party (thanks MJ @76) and that doesn't seem like much to me for 11 kids to split. Kate seems to be very proud of it though as she opines on how the kids won't sleep. I guess she figures that they'll be all sugared up. Also, she's been tweeting non stop tonight so she must really have a bunch of kids at the house. She did say in one tweet that she's got some show ideas. I'm guessing that she's got nothing concrete in the works and is still pitching to anyone who will listen.
I had NO idea she had seen her show! I knew she'd know her from DWTS but we had to talk after seeing THAT comment! :/
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Hmm... what would be so alarming about Mady sneaking down and watching Kendra's show? Subject matter too mature?
can't wait to do more tv.I didn't realize until filming CWS just how much I missed it!Feel 'at home' in it!
Ohhhhh....please take me out of my misery.......
She feels 'at home' because she gets paid big bucks to doing nothing. Nothing. No lines to rehearse. No director breathing down her throat to get the scene just right. No practicing her role and living in character for months like real actors do.
She. Makes. Me. Sick.
T @linjeark @Kateplusmy8 Are you filming a new season of Kateplusmy8? I really miss that show! WOULDNT THAT B GR8 IF I SAID YES??!
@Kateplusmy8 @linjeark Oh...now what a tease that comment was??? Yes, it would be gr8...@ABC folks want a new Kate Plus 8! How abt it?
@MiloandJack @linjeark @ABC lol. A new Kate? Yes! Kids occasionally? Hm. Maybe. But I have some show ideas..you want to see them?:)
@Kateplusmy8 @linjeark @ABC Okay...we are waiting...ur dangling some TV Candy in front of us...now give us at least one sweet treat?? :)
@MiloandJack @linjeark @ABC ok. One sweet treat: I just popped a piece of double bubble in as my night time snack! That work?;)
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Kate is tweeting ABC that she has some tv show ideas. Milo has been copying ABC for the hour or so. Unreal. Kate just told Milo she loves her.
Leslie
rainbowsandunicorns said... 87
''Kids may like knowing what comes next, but they certainly don't like their lives orchestrated by another person to the point that they watch the clock to stay on a routine.''
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When they were doing CWS, they were all very aware that the cameras were there, filming everything they did....and that KK would see every thing that happened. When they were upset w/changes Kendra made, I believe that it was because they knew that KK would see it, and be all over them. The followed the to the minute routine, because that is they have to be when at their mother's.
I'm convinced that the Gosselin children are aware that they are only controlled every minute at their mother's house. They are allowed to be 'normal' at school and with Jon. Since we've had some evidence that they all are relaxed with Jon, I continue to have hope that the children are able to compartmentalize their behavior when with their mother, and behave differently when away from KK.
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8
@MiloandJack I had NO idea she had seen her show!
And now that you know that "scheduling" or not, even your kids will find a way to experience their world as they see fit, if I were you, Kate, I would also have a talk about the Internet where, according to you, they never go... because you told them not to. Yeah. Riiiight.
"Kate is tweeting ABC that she has some tv show ideas. Milo has been copying ABC for the hour or so. Unreal. Kate just told Milo she loves her."
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Are they consummating this relationship from afar?
I am still not convinced that Milo is a woman. There's something really, really "off" there.
No chaos ensued at the Family Fun Center because I am almost certain that it was closed to the public while they were filming. I didn't see anyone there except the help beyond the counter.
But the point was Kendra exclaimed after taking 8 kids there that she didn't know how Kate does it. Kate doesn't do it alone like Kendra did. That is why this tv show has me so pissed. She is duping America that is is 100% at home 24/7 for her kids without any time to herself.
It is right out fraud. Period.
Leslie
Does Khate even realize that ABC did not win the night and that NCIS on CBS totally blew CWS away?! 20.9 million to 7 million? Also, network shows are not nearly as forgiving as cable shows. If they do not like the ratings, they will cancel a show- sometimes after one showing! No producer or TV exec wants to work with someone who pesters them to death either! Geesh! I haven't seen Kendra or her fans tweet ad nauseum about CWS either. In fact, Kendra barely tweets at all!
Part of raising children is interacting with other parents. Especially when your child has done something wrong to another child. I wonder how Kate handles these situations. Does she just ignore the problem or simply stick her nose in the air and pretend she doesn't hear?
Kate should get a show on ABC because Kate wants a show. Never mind that people study for years and hone their craft, Kate wants a show so damnit ABC had better give her a show or they'll have Milo to answer to. Kate wants a show and I wand a million dollars...well want in one hand and shit in the other and see which gets full first!
I just love how they are all including @ABC in their tweets talking about Kate being on TV. @ABC is the twitter name for ABC News, whose twitter profile says in part "See the whole picture here with the latest from ABC News, then get live breaking updates @ABCNewsLive."
If they really wanted to get ABC's attention, they should be tweeting @ABCNetwork, whose twitter profile is "The Official Twitter for ABC Television Network".
Maybe ABC News will do a story on Kate and her manic tweeties. They've given them plenty to work with the tweets they've been sending to the news department.
well want in one hand and shit in the other and see which gets full first!
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LOL!
"Kate just told Milo she loves her."
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On a public forum? Has she no sense of privacy? "The first time ever I tweeted with you, I thought the sun rose in your eyes
and the moon and the stars were gifts you gave to the dark and the endless skiesi"
I bet Milo has sweet dreams tonight. I hope she has waterproof pillow protectors on her bed in the facility because she's going to be a-droolin all over herself.
Formerly Duped 159 - Thanks, but I found that one okay. I had a file with links to a lot of sites I use, but for some reason, forgot to link the gratitude site. My email program is web-based, so I didn't lose anything I had saved in it, Thank Heavens. It's been a pain collecting everything again. The worst thing is I had downloaded a number of free books onto my computer and lost all of those. Some I can get again, but others I can't. Of course, the ones I can't are ones I haven't had the time to read yet. Rats!
@NJGgal51- EXACTLY! Both of my kids study acting in college and they went to a performing arts high school. They work hard and study their craft and it's history. Khate says the kids don't work because they are just being filmed playing. So- where's the talent in that? Same for Khate- I don't consider getting paid a six-figure income to do nothing but to preen for the camera is work at all! My son had to memorize 90 minutes of dialog for a play, attend school full time, and have rehearsals after school and on the weekends. He graduated salutatorian of his hs class. Khate just feels like "she" is entitled once again because "her" family is unique. It's manufactured though! There's nothing special at all about them and I did not find Mady engaging or charming at all. It's obvious that she was given the spokesperson title because she wants to act. She just doesn't have that IT factor! I'm speaking objectively here! Did I happen to mention that I LOATHE Khate!
Poor Milo she has competition:
@Kateplusmy8
@JeanneKaye @BarbGilmer (hush you two.Love u both. GN)
I wonder if Kate and Milo really believe that ABC will sit up and take notice because the TWO of them are tweeting each other and including @ABC. I think it's going to take more than TWO twits tweeting to make anyone take notice. It's TWO people tweeting, not 7 million! Just what are your show ideas Kate? Inquiring minds want to know.
Good luck to your kids Loathe! I studied at the Neighborhood Playhouse School of Theatre and the American Academy of Dramatic Arts (both in NYC). I had to audition to get into both. They didn't just throw open the doors for me because I wanted to study with them. Kate's feelings of entitlement never cease to amaze me. BTW Kate, the first thing we were told in our speech classes was to get rid of the regional accents.
Cripes they sound like the Waltons over on Kate's twitter. Gnite Kate, gnite jeannekay, gnite barb, gnite blahblah, luv U, luv U2....
Oy.
Milo also has competition for Kate's affections. Milo has been tweeting this guy and has now set herself up as Kate's protector. This is pathetic. No snark here -- Kate really has to watch out for this Milo person. Something just isn't right there.
irishfan47
@MiloandJack I am here to get to know Kate. Being from PA its great to chat with her, lots of fans in her backyard.
miloandjack
@irishfan47 Well,whatever..just know I always have Kate's back as do a number of other really nice ladies here! Good2keep that in mind!
miloandjack
@irishfan47 Fine...treat her right! :)
irishfan47
@MiloandJack that's the plan..
miloandjack
@irishfan47 U say U have nothin 2hide...but U ARE dodging the ? Have a good nite. :)
No chaos ensued at the Family Fun Center because I am almost certain that it was closed to the public while they were filming.
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No chaos would have ensued even if the public were there, especially with locals who are long over them.
As soon as Kate tweets anything Milo is right there to jump in and tweet with her. She gets so excited the moment Kate appears, she's probably singing this:
So glad you made it
So glad you made it
You gotta
Gimme some lovin'
Gimme some lovin'
Gimme some lovin' everyday.
Yes, educator--it is true that boys don't smile o laugh like girls. They smile and laugh by boys. That is, unless they are being raised to belive that boys are inferior to girls. Or, when their mother incarcerates in them in their room for hours on end, or whips them by their hair or gives them the icky choes or doesn't allow them to express any individuality whatsoever. Those boys looked fearful and withdrawn. It was downright creepy to watch them go into automatic mode--like little Roombas. Of all the reasons I dislike Kate, this is the top one. She has stomped out their little light.
NJGal- Thanks! I know of both of the places were you trained. My son is at NYU Tisch and my daughter is studying at NIU near Chicago- although she changed her major and is minoring in theatre. Still, both had to audition to get into their programs and it's extremely competitive. I teased her about having a bunch of kids and getting a reality show. She said she wants to be famous for her talent- not INFAMOUS!
I really don't want to see anything bad happen to Kate. There have been quite a few cases where obsessive fans went berzerk. If there is anyone on Twitter who hasn't been blocked by Kate, perhaps she should be notified about just how far Milo has taken her delusions that she is part of Kate's life. She's got some major issues going on there, and she now is tweeting to fans without including Kate in the tweet. Meddling Milo has taken her obsession to a level where Kate should be informed, if she hasn't been already.
I just have bad feelings about this.
Who the eff pops a double bubble in their mouth as their their dessert, their little guilty pleasure, their "night time snack"? I'll tell you who. A calorie obsessed weirdo named Kate Gosselin. Wow. A whole piece of double bubble. Naughty little you Kate. Hope it was sugar free. Don't forget to jump on the scale in the morning. Her food restrictions and militant dieting regime is definitely concerning to say the least....
When I compare the relaxed, peaceful little boy snuggling with a pit bull, it's hard to imagine this same little boy is the one with the blank stares and flat affect in CWS. I should find this comforting he can be himself elsewhere, but in a way it makes it worse because clearly what we saw on CWS is not the little boy he really is and it is so sad he can't be who he is. I get Kendra's tears.
Kendra is by no means perfect. I think it was okay that Kate recommended that a 3 year old doesn't need to be in day care all day when he has an at-home dad. (I believe Kendra works) That said, weren't Mady and Cara in day care all day at 3? Both parents were working and then Jon was working for some time while she was hospitalized with the tups. Also, Kendra doesn't need to go get drunk, especially if she is still on anti-depressants.
This doesn't make Kate a great mom or anything. I think Kendra handled the Gosselin kids well and she did bond with them. I think she bonded with the twins more because they were older, but she probably had affection for the boys since she has a son herself.
Hank wasn't in daycare he was in school. There are many programs for kids this age in Calabasas. Plus Hank is an only child and isn't getting the social interaction if he had siblings. He can benefit from something.
I also don't recall them saying he goes every single day. It seems like most programs are more like a two or three day a week thing at this age. Or at least mornings. Hank said he was with Rosa while they were golfing, and it was still high noon out, so I assume his program is just a little half day thing.
Nope, Kendra's not perfect. She's just a flawed mommy like most everybody else. We'd be here until the end of time if we wanted to rip apart every flawed mommy out there. When your flaws become abuse, I take notice.
I do worry about Kate's kids as they get older, but apparently the two are back in school and doing well. I do hope that they are able to continue to do well there, as it is likely the only stability they have.
I am aware that wealthier parents put their kids in "school". There is a streaming Netflix documentary called "Nursery University" about the craziness of the competition in NYC nursery schools. I just found it odd that Kate was so vehemently against it when her twins were provided for by outside providers. Plus, she had LOTS of help with the tups, including an LPN for the first year (documented).
I think Kate is a crappy, abusive mother. And NONE of us were perfect parents. There is no such thing. She has PLENTY of time off from her kids...all day when they are at school, her vacations, trips to NYC, etc. So other than switching out the kids' chores, she didn't learn anything.
When they were upset w/changes Kendra made, I believe that it was because they knew that KK would see it, and be all over them. The followed the to the minute routine, because that is they have to be when at their mother's.
But that doesn't explain Mady admitting to sneaking down to the basement to watch Kendra's show. She knew her mother would see that and yet still said it.
When your flaws become abuse, I take notice.
You don't notice that Kendra is exploiting her own child with a reality show? She's no better than Kate. Both are needy famewhores, IMO.
Just because Kendra appears a bit more likeable is no excuse to give her a pass. Dont you say the same thing about the Duggars? That you think people give them a pass because they're 'nice' on camera?
Have you read my comments before? I have always said I don't like that Kendra put Hank on a reality show.
So Mady shouldn't watch Kendras reality show but it's fine for Kendra to play mommy to Mady for a week. Got it.
Excuse me? I seriously don't understand your rebuttal.
My point was that if the chidlren are so afraid of 'going off script' while they're mother was gone, why did Mady not seem to hesitate that she 'snuck' downstais to watch something?
She couldn't have been too afraid of the backlash from her mother, as the OP opined.
Ramona Black said... 126
''But that doesn't explain Mady admitting to sneaking down to the basement to watch Kendra's show. She knew her mother would see that and yet still said it.''
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Aren't you just too clever by half? The twins weren't being the robotic slaves the others were. KK warned Kendra more than once to stay away from the twins space. Mady also said that she was having the most fun she's had in two weeks. I think it's pretty clear that KK hasn't broken the older two the way she has the younger six...especially the three boys.
ok, just finished watching it and wow, just wow.
Does anyone recall when she first started mentioning making bread? It just kind of came out of the blue. This show was being negotiated and THE SCRIPT WAS BEING DISCUSSED long before they taped in Oct. The premise is exactly like the non-celebrity version so they were told to UP the ante, they probably give a synopsis of their lives and it's written into a script. The bread making was part of the script, she JUST started doing that not too long ago, along with the yogurt making.
How DARE she tell Kendra she's missing out on her son!! She was gone far more than present when her LITTLES were his age!! Cripes, the lectures she was giving out were probably ones that have been given to her from all the people she's banished from her life! How DARE she say even subtly suggest that having a "nanny" is wrong! You dumb b@tch, you've had a revolving door of "not-a-nannies"! What gall! Remember when she plopped home for a half hour while doing DWTS, just to leave again? The kids balling? She just walked off with that COLD DEAD LOOK of hers, not a single ounce of motherly concern for them, like "geez! Do I really have to even GO home?" What about when she proudly told the world that she didn't even want Jon or the kids to call her when she was on her book tours "working"? ugh!
And you HAD a damn Hank clone Khate! You had Jon! You can bet your flat ASS he would have treated you like a princess had you given him a smidgen of the gratitude and love Kendra gives to her husband!
Those boys :( Yes, Zombies. That poor look Colin gave the camera while in the van? My God!
Chores chores chores! Just like it's always been,everyone and anyone but the damn queen herself breaking a sweat. The story Robert told about her yelling at them while pulling the weeds? Yeah, sure that was a total fabrication, NOT!
Any OTHER "single" mom of 8, ANYONE but HER, who had her looks (you can't say isn't visually appealing to men, she most definitely turns heads)would have had men sniffing around the MINUTE they heard she was single. She doesn't have any suitors because she's it's HER, that is the ONLY reason. NOT THE KIDS!!
It is the thing to put kids in school at age 2. My nieces were started in music class as soon as they could sit up. They learn how to thrive in a structured environment and the music is soothing to them and it trains their brain to listen. Then they go to a pre-kindergarten class to prepare them for kindergarten. Makes them smarter and learn at an early age how to socialize which is half the problem in school. It is only for a few hours and is not all day. The days of a child scooting around in a walker all day are over.
I think there is no concern that Kate will get more shows...I think ABC played a one trick pony with CWS and the ONLY reason there were 7 million viewers was because it has been sooooo long since the 8 have been seen on tv that there was a kind of a "circus" curiosity. Kate has NO draw whatsoever except for 6 creepy fans and a bunch of teenage girls. The interest was in the changes of the kids and not to be rude but NONE of the 8 are gorgeous little actors/actresses that draw viewers....they are all in that geeky/braces/zitty stage and most of them looked depressed and blah. I think Kate has a snowball's chance in hell of getting anything else....her "mom" image has even disappeared into a fake plastic transvestite Barbie doll look. She's toast....but let her and Milo dream together.
Oh, and I wonder if the filming crew had background checks? Who leaves their children with an unknown crew, an unknown new mommy and a barely 20 something makeup artist for a week? The stress she puts on those kids is disgusting and heartbreaking. Speaks volumes that the only person who she could sucker into staying was her "best friend", the barely out of highschool doormat. She used to have a huge pool of people she depend on...that's what I can't understand about the fans. She comes from a large family, she had a pool of genuine help and now she's got NOBODY! hmmm, do ya think SHE'S the problem?
A couple more observations
Kendra asks "how am I supposed to cut this up for all of you?"-the HALF avacado. Mady pipes up "with a knife" (smug). Kendra answers "oh"
instead of saying what she REALLY wanted to say "how is half an avacado enough for EIGHT of you?" But see, she was diplomatic, she probably thought it would come off as a criticism to their mother.
And loved how she gets out of bed all hair and makeup done. Loved how she never refused a glass of wine from Hank, loved that she downed that shooter, loved that she was in a club with stipper poles, loved how she got to flaunt her store bought boobs in a bikini...she makes me sick!
Sorry, one more thing lol
The way her face lit up when Deanna tells her she just has to learn to relax "guilt free" was reminiscent of when Beth took her to the spa I
Did anyone catch it when Kate was supposedly making dinner at Kendra's house, and she was standing in the doorway of the kitchen(I guess), and gives Hank Sr. a come hither look and says, "Would you like a glass of wine?".
She almost looked like she had been sipping a few when she said that. Was that her attempt at playing a sex kitten? She sure didn't act like a mother of eight in that scene.
At the round table at the end, it was astounding to see how fast the look on Kate's face went from somewhat benign to death look when there was even a hint of criticism directed towards her.
It was instantaneous. Intended to be intimidating.
Can you imagine being a lowly teacher and being the recipient of that? Or a little kid? Or an icky boy?
Did anyone catch it when Kate was supposedly making dinner at Kendra's house, and she was standing in the doorway of the kitchen(I guess), and gives Hank Sr. a come hither look and says, "Would you like a glass of wine?". She almost looked like she had been sipping a few when she said that. Was that her attempt at playing a sex kitten? She sure didn't act like a mother of eight in that scene.
That was the scene where it looked like she was saying...hey, to make up for me being obnoxious earlier, I'll let you look down my shirt...you wanna?
What a tease.
All nice Christian ladies offer that to other women's husbands, don't they?
Seemed real mom-like to me. Not.
I think Mady is like Kate in so many ways, down to her left-handedness. Mady, like Kate, seems to be very happy when the camera is on her and I think she bragged a bit about her sneaking around watching Kendra's show. Eh, she's 12 and wants to act older.
I know I was 12 and going on 19 back then!
I agree Kate acted flirty with Hank at times, but to me, it seems to be a swing and a miss. Kate come across as more grade school tentative and even unsure of herself.
Now Pam Anderson? She owns it and can seduce with an arch of an eyebrow.
First let me begin by saying I have never contributed to this blog but have, admittedly, lurked over the past here and then when her show was on TV.
Secondly I will say I am not a fan of Kate's as people on this blog appear to be, not in a positive way, but fans indeed.
Thirdly I will say my parents brought me up with the motto "If you can't say something nice about a person, don't say anything at all".
To me this appears to be group cyber bullying. Really, is Kate's business any of ours? No it isn't. I don't understand all the hatred towards her. I do understand the concern for the children but really, all this gossip about their mother? She is their mother and I have no doubt they love her and to me this blog, which they will no doubt read, will hurt those children. Children don't want to hear anything bad about their mother or father regardless of how one thinks those children are being treated.
Shame on all of you.
Lillian, are you aware that most definitions of cyber bullying require that the victim be a child, pre-teen, or teen? Kate is a 38 year old woman. With the exception of a few fringe people who actually do harass Kate directly on twitter, if you actually look at common ways to cyber bully, we never do any such thing.
Commenting on a celebrity and public figure who just had a national T.V. show five days ago and put everything we are saying out there is not "cyber bullying." If Kate has a problem with it, she can put her big girl pants on and get off our televisions, it's as simple as that. You do a disservice to a child who really is cyber bullied who can't get away from it like that.
Here are some common ways that nasty kids cyber bully. None of them we've ever done:
Repeated e-mails or IMs
Building fake profiles, Web sites or posing as your child’s e-mail or IM
Signing your child up for porn sites and e-mailing lists and junk e-mail and IM
Breaking in to their accounts online
Stealing or otherwise accessing their passwords
Posting real or doctored sexual images of the child online
Sharing personal information about the child
Sharing intimate information about the child (sexual, special problems, etc.)
Sharing contact information about the child coupled with a sexual solicitation (“for a good time call …” or “I am interested in [fill in the blank] sex…”)
Reporting the child for real or provoked terms of service violations (“notify wars” or “warning wars”)
Encouraging that others share their top ten “hit lists,” or ugly lists, or slut lists online and including your child on that list
Hacking your child’s computer and sending your child malicious codes
Sending threats to others (like the President of the United States) or attacking others while posing as your child
Copying others on your child’s private e-mail and IM communications
Posting bad reviews or feedback on your child without cause
Posting rude or provocative comments while posing as your child (such as insulting racial minorities at a Web site devoted to that racial minority)
Sending spam or malware to others while posing as your child
Breaking the rules of a Web site or service while posing as your child
Setting up a vote for site (like “hot or not?”) designed to embarrass or humiliate your child
Masquerading as your child for any purpose
Posting your child’s text-messaging address or cell phone number online to encourage abuse and increase your child’s text-messaging or cell phone charges
Launching a denial of service attack on your child’s Web site
Sending “jokes” about your child to others or mailing lists
No, shame on you for comparing a person who is really being cyberbullied to Kate's charmed life.
Another CWS observation:
When Deanna arrives at the house (around the 1:26 mark) she says:"There are so many of you". A somewhat strange comment from a "close" friend of the family. Was it her first time there with all the kids?
Deanna acted more like an employee than a "best friend".
Great secure environment that Kate left her kids in!
I appear to have hit a sore spot Administrator. Bullying is bullying, no matter the gender or age. Perhaps cyber bullying isn't the appropriate term, my mistake. To me trash talking somebody, even a public figure, is wrong. I will leave now, thank you and goodbye.
Lillian MacD said, "Thirdly I will say my parents brought me up with the motto "If you can't say something nice about a person, don't say anything at all".
Thank you. I will say this nicely. I am NOT a Kate fan.
I am not ashamed of my opinions.
Lillian, it's not a sore spot. I just hate when people try to compare Kate to real kids going through rule bullying, it's not fair to those kids. I stand by my comment, this woman is not bullied. This woman is a celebrity and public figure who has decided to make a career off selling "motherhood" of eight kids. The public is free to comment and criticize, and that's pretty much all there is to it. She is a big girl and I trust she can handle it if she would like this to stop. Jon did.
Now I don't think she should be trashed talked, I agree with you there. Standing around going off her looks and clothes ad nauseum isn't necessary. Well, unless she's spending the kids' money for those looks and clothes, then it becomes a bit more relevant, doesn't it? But I have no problem talking about how she treats other people, how she treats her kids, the lies she tells, and so on. I do not consider this trash talking. I consider it truth telling.
I made bread yesterday! I poured all the ingredients into the container (which took about 8 minutes) and I let the machine do all the work. I'm such a great mom!
You know I never understood the if you can't say anything nice don't say anything at all when it comes to matters of public concern, like child exploitation. That comment was meant for the school playground when there is no reason to make some nasty comment at Suzy because her parents can't afford new shoes. That's what that motto is about. That motto is not about public figures or matters of public concern, or celebrities who have decided to make a buck off selling you some fake idea of motherhood.
By that logic there would never be any societal progression at all. Because no one ever would have said anything bad about slavery, politicians, wars, education, CHILD LABOR LAWS, and on and on.
Kate didn't want Kendra to have the easy life....she wanted her to work as hard as if she had 8 kids, not 1. I think Kate resented Kendra's lifestyle and the help she has. Why else was she browbeating that into Hank and Kendra that Kendra HAD to be like Kate. Excuse me! Saying she didn't care? Woooo. If she didn't care then the house would be sloppy and have an unhappy kid & husband, yes? Thats why she has nanny and housekeeper. So what if she doesn't want to do the housework herself? That's what a housekeeper is for! Duh.
Children don't want to hear anything bad about their mother or father regardless of how one thinks those children are being treated.
True. But then why go on national tv and behave the way Kate does?
If the above is important to Kate (which it's clearly not), she does have the choice to abstain from said behavior, or at least to abstain frlm doing it publicly.
One other thought is Kate resents the responsiblity that comes with raising 8 children. How many times have we hear her saying they are a burden on her? Stop blaming the kids for her lifestyle and dissing Kendra because she doesn't have to live.
Lillian MacD said...(143)
"Thirdly I will say my parents brought me up with the motto "If you can't say something nice about a person, don't say anything at all".
Shame on all of you."
Hmmm, appears you didn't learn the lesson well.
Kate can choose not to read here. Kate can choose to make her twitter private. Kate can choose not to make her life public.
That's not bullying, cyber or otherwise. It's called criticism and Kate has always said she can handle it. For her to go crying about it in public now is a matter of convenience and rest assured, merely a strategy to keep her in the spotlight, nothing more.
The woman exploits and abuses her children, I will not stand quietly by and saying nothing. Personally, my opinion is, it's the people who enable her, film her and pay her to do it are the ones who should be ashamed of themselves.
But thank you for your thoughts.
To add to the bullying is bullying no matter what your age, actually, many experts believe there is no such thing as bullying once you are an adult. An important element of bullying is the imbalance of power. A popular child versus a child with no friends. Only adults who have some kind of imbalance of power going on, like an employer to his employee, or perhaps a mentally or physically disabled adult, can truly experience bullying.
If you're talking about harassment, please cite examples where we have harassed Kate. If it's harassment, she can get her lawyers to send us a cease and desist. Oh wait they tried that and failed miserably. She could also get a restraining order. Kate can handle her own problems. Calling it bullying is a slap in the face to bullied children. Do you go after sites like PerezHilton that spend all day trash talking celebs and even implying they do coke? If I were a celeb, I simply wouldn't visit that site. Problem solved. I'm afraid this is America, and you're allowed to talk about public figures.
Adults can deal with their problems productively. Bullied children are powerless.
True. But then why go on national tv and behave the way Kate does?
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That's the thing, we wouldn't be discussing any of this in the first place if she didn't go on Wife Swap! You don't get to go on a national T.V. then get to cry when people don't like it. Boo hoo. We were talking about the Oscars, movies, pets, and exchanging recipes before this all happened. We were even talking about changing the banner. We probably still would be if not for this show interrupting things.
If Deanna Bell, her make-up "artist" has been in the business for 15 years, wouldn't that make her at least 35 or 37 years old? I don't think she looks 20 something. For a make-up artist she is rather plain looking and does not seem to have much of a personality. It is just a matter of time before she is the next one to be dismissed from Kate's life. When the free services end so will the so-called friendship. I have always said Mady is Kate Jr. From the beginning of the show where she would have temper tantrums when she could not get her own way to kicking the crap out of her younger siblings for going in her room or touching her toys. Kate is really in for it in another year or two with her.
I thought Deanna looked about 28. She's been in the business for 15 years? Is she counting high school plays?
At first I thought, like the poster above, that Kate didn't want Kendra to have the easy life. It was painfully obvious how jealous Kate was of Kendra's life.
But Kate didn't realize that she's jealous of not only the nanny, the housekeeper, the nice little kid, the nice husband, Kendra has more money.
She's insanely jealous of Kendra's happiness.
Kate just could not stand it, that this was a happy little family. That Kendra has a happy life. Not just an easy life.
It was the happiness, the contendness, that was sending Kate over the edge.
Kate was truly being a 'mean girl'. Saying whatever she could think of to bring Kendra down.
Every time I try to find something nice to say about Kate, I'm at a loss for words.
Adults can deal with their problems productively. Bullied children are powerless.
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Until there is a groundswell of concern from the public who contact public officials and urge that they enact laws to protect children from exploitation. There is no shame in that.
Stand by and be silent when you see injustice and let the rest of us have the courage of our convictions to stand up and say something when parents are profiting from selling their children's lives.
Shame is a mother who is not deterred by the FACT that a convicted sex offender edited and had unfettered access to raw footage of her children, but dismisses is like it's 2-day old bread and seeks to further film her children for public consumption.
Not shameful is a certain PA representative who saw that his state was selling tourism at the risk of endangering and using children, all the while watching their parents become multi-millionaires who kept their hands out accepting love offerings that they did not need in order to support their sprawling mansion and Hollywood lifestyles, and spoke up about it.
Bravo Rep. Murt and all who helped enact a new law that protects any filmed child in PA from being overexposed, overworked and used for their parents or anybody else's profit.
Kate could have gone on wife swap, behaved normally, and then there wouldn't have been any criticism.
Although that's not true, I guess. I would have criticized that she can apparently control her behavior for someone else's family, so why not her own.
Much like I criticize her for behaving nicely to a random radio disc jockey, or sucking up to the ladies on The View, but she can't manage to be nice to her own kids, whom she says she loves.
Kate was truly being a 'mean girl'. Saying whatever she could think of to bring Kendra down.
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Hmm, wouldn't that also be considered bullying? Telling someone that she doesn't care about her family and only cares about herself.
Kate's fans would call that "constructive criticism", but when anyone says the same thing about Kate-automatically, it's called bullying. Double standard as usual.
Deanna looks about 10 years Kate's jr. and seems to genuinely care about the kids. But, she's just another in a long line of interlopers in their lives, which is sad.
It seems that being Kate's friend is a one-way street, where ultimately, Kate's new BFF becomes hired help. I found it stunning the way Kate treated Jamie on the RV trip, because they were friends for quite a few years prior, which to me, being the same age and both moms of multiples, would have had them solidly on a level playing field. But, that was just not the case, as Jamie was just another hired hand.
I agree with everything that Wowser said @135.
Why to people like Lillian always come here and say "let me begin by saying I'm not a fan of Kate's" (or words to that extent) when clearly their post indicates that they are?
You know, it is truly astounding to me that people seem to have such blinders on when it comes to Kate.
I have to wonder why. The say those who criticize her are bullying her but never do they mention the bullying that she has done to her own children, her ex, her family, her "staff", perfect strangers.
Did these people never actually watch the show and are just jumping on some kind of anti-bullying bandwagon and have decided that Kate is their poster child?
How she fooled the world, indeed.
And for the record, I'm in the camp that what is said here about their mother will actually validate their experiences and let them know that there were people (lots of people) who spoke out on their behalf.
Half the battle of overcoming childhood abuse comes from having people believe you and support you. Too many adult survivors struggle with dealing with parents and family members refusing to admit it ever happened in the first place.
A while back, in response to Mady's saying all she has ever known is work, I responded that I thought she was a little diva, and that she certainly didn't clean the whole mansion on her own. I was jumped on good for my opinion at that time. After watching CWS, I even more so think I was right..it's the tups who do the chores, and Mady looked to be the over see-er, like her mother is. Now others are voicing the opinion that Mady is a diva..glad to see others agree with me.
Last night someone asked Kate if she and Jon were friends and this was her answer. "@Kateplusmy8: @XXXXXXX lol friends, no.do my best to keep peace4kids&thanks for kind words. I don't own a cape tho so cant b superwoman".
Is it cyber bullying for me to say that I think she's an ass? Her fans are so afraid that the kids will read our words but everything that comes out of Kate is more damning than anything we could say LOL. I added the LOL because apparently if you add that you can say anything you want (seems to work for Kate). Kate, is throwing Jon under the bus at every opportunity really keeping the peace for the sake of the kids?
Funny Jon paints a picture like they get along well now. Interesting how your perspective can be totally different than the other person.
I don't think she has to be friends with her ex. It would be nice but not always possible. But she does need to tell her sheeple that Jon, their divorce, and what goes on among the 10 of them is none of their damn business. She does need to do that.
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That is so sad, isn't it?
Perhaps Kate would help to keep the peace by consulting their father about putting the kids on tv again, having a stranger mother them for a week while filming with a new crew.
How is this hard?
There are times I selfishly want Jon to speak out and "set the record straight", but I know the better part of valor, right now, is to just let it go and let Kate have her jollies by throwing him under the bus.
The only opinion that matters are the kids and they will always know the truth.
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Hank wasn't in daycare he was in school. There are many programs for kids this age in Calabasas. Plus Hank is an only child and isn't getting the social interaction if he had siblings. He can benefit from something.
I also don't recall them saying he goes every single day. It seems like most programs are more like a two or three day a week thing at this age. Or at least mornings. Hank said he was with Rosa while they were golfing, and it was still high noon out, so I assume his program is just a little half day thing.
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Your assumption is incorrect. Per Kendra's household manual, the daily routine is that little Hank is taken to pre-school at 8am and picked up at 3:30pm. It is not a "little half day thing."
Perhaps Kate would help to keep the peace by consulting their father about putting the kids on tv again, having a stranger mother them for a week while filming with a new crew.
How is this hard?
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Exactly, she needs to take responsibility for why they are not friends. You can't possibly be friends with your ex wife if she refuses to even let you have some input in the family's decisions. For heaven sake she doesn't have to do what he wants, but she could at least take the time to LISTEN to what he wants. I hate how Kate says it's just the 9 of us now in CWS. No, Kate, only in your head. It's still 10 of you, you are still a family, he is still their father. You may not live together anymore but you're always going to be a family. Cutting him off from CWS does nothing to promote any kind of civil relationship.
Sorry Assume I didn't read Kendra's manual. I'm glad you did!
You need not be so condescending. You're right, it's an all day thing. I still don't have a problem with it.
Yes they never mention the "bullying" Kate did toward Aunt Jodi and Kevin when they spoke out at congressional hearings. Kate ripped them a new one even implied they left their kids to go do this. The fans got on board and started digging up all kinds of dirt on them. Why can't Jodi and Kevin say what they think without being bullied? Huh? By their definition, explain how what Kate said about the Krieders is any different than the "bullying" they claim non-fans do to Kate. Crickets.
Dear loathe, I can put the ingredients in my bread machine in FIVE minutes! That includes heating up the liquid and giving the yeast a head start! So there! that must mean I am a better mom than you. Anyone wanna go for a faster time? Let's race!
Winsome did you see the chore chart on the fridge and listen to Mady explain it? There was a list of chores and their names written in beside each chore. Apparently Mady and Cara were on dishwasher duty that week, Cara loads and Mady empties. The tup girls were actually getting the easier less time consuming chores like rinsing off toothbrushes and sink and wiping off the table. It looks like they rotate the rest of the chores. Except for the boys, the rest of the family each had an even distribution of chores. The only thing that was really unfair about it was the boys getting all the dirty work. But Mady and Cara were on that chart just like the rest of the girls, and they were getting the bigger, longer chores.
I do agree that the chores are not evenly divided though, the boys get the crappiest of the chores, literally. But the girls aren't sitting around, they were shown working too. And Kendra never said I feel so bad for the boys they have so many chores. She said all the kids work hard and have chores. And I absolutely do not think by saying that, that Mady was trying to imply she was the ONLY kid doing work or that her siblings don't do work too. She never said that. In fact she says the opposite when she explains the chore chart, she points out all the work and who does what.
If I say I work hard keeping my lawn up, I don't see how that means I'm implying that many other people don't work hard at their lawns. I'm just talking about what I do at the moment.
@Kateplusmy8: So, I'm walking away from the schedule to bake 432 cookies (amount needed for rest of school year!) and will look at schedule again later!:)
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Well super mom of 8 is preparing to bake 36 DOZEN cookies! What a gal. I guess she's going to start slicing up those Tollhouse rolls that we saw in her fridge.
I watched the entire fiasco on you tube. The dead giveaway for Kart not having any idea who she was swapping with was her outfits. She packed outfits as if she was going to a vacation resort, not someone's private home. How did she know she needed to pack a new golf outfit to play golf? And the nightclub outfit doesn't ring true to a stay at home mother of eight living in PA, who claimed she never went to night clubs (who can forget Butter with her hairdresser Ted Gibson) or many dinners out with men (Steve and other paid help). Cry her a river and send her down it on a piece of plywood with a box of wine, an eighth of an avocado and no oars for all her lies. She's such a phony mess. She tried to act like she was auditioning for a future television role during the entire episode. And it was bad acting at that. The only reason I think she had tears during the table sit down with her surrogate husband Deanna (how weird was that), and Kendra and Hank was because she knew she had to return home to her children and real life in PA (which she hates). I also think she's a hoarder and that is why she needs so many chickens and eggs. It's just like her need for four freezers and cases of products stockpiled in the basement or garage. I doubt she'll get her own show, but she may appear on some garbage cable network show or some other reality show like Wipeout or a one episode dating show like the Choice (another really bad show). I looked at that picture of her pita wrap and her other unappealing meals. She won't be appearing on her own cooking show, unless it's PA's worst cooks (i.e., how to make burned pizza and fatty non-organic casseroles, and stove top uncooked turkey sausage slop). She should stick to kitchen cleaning tips using q-tips for ovens, refrigerators, other appliances, cleaning the grime underneath toilet bowl rims and around toilet floor bolts and caps. One quick dunk in bleach and the q-tips can be reused to clean out Kart's ears.
"Apparently Mady and Cara were on dishwasher duty that week, Cara loads and Mady empties." And just what do they load into those dish washers..paper plates? It takes two of them to take care of almost non existent dishes..compare that to chicken coop duty.
Again, given the details/exposure of that chore chart, and the knowledge of her several 'helpers', WTF does she do all day that is so exhaustingish? The older girls are on dishwasher duty, the boys are cleaning bathrooms, younger girls are wiping appliances. The laundry lists are not written by Kate for Kate. She has no job, no volunteer work, no gym classes, no 'ladies who lunch' friends. Grocery shopping, Target, anything else. And her kids spend time with their father. Yes, she really is overworked.
Her so obvious jealousy at Kendra's happy marriage, and the juvenile way it was exhibited in her trademark sneers and body language is also an obvious reason why no media producer wants to be involved with her 'brand'. Wake up and smell the coffee, Kate.
"Thirdly I will say my parents brought me up with the motto "If you can't say something nice about a person, don't say anything at all".To me this appears to be group cyber bullying...Shame on all of you."
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So, let me get this right. You were taught that if you can't say something nice, then you don't say it at all. However, you haven't said one "nice" thing in your post about the blog, so why are you saying anything at all? I don't understand, especially the 'shame on all of you' part. That certainly is condescending, and not "nice." What happened to what your parents taught you? You're doing exactly what you are criticizing bloggers for doing.
She's baking cookies for the rest of the school year?? Yuck, most cookies don't freeze well. They are a rock hard mess by May.
Not to mention, that's only about four cookies a week per child.
And she complains about how much she runs the dishwasher like some martyr, and yet CWS exposed she doesn't have to lift a finger. The twins do it all.
Well, you need pots and pans and silverware and they have those trays, those all go in the dishwasher. Surely they are running it at least once a day like most families with kids. They use a lot of Styrofoam but not exclusively.
I don't know that tending to the chickens is better or worse, it depends on your personal preference. Personally I HATE the dishwasher chore. You have to arrange them in a certain way for best results, you always have to check each dish when unloading to be sure it's clean, I hate the smell of dirty dishes and I hate how I feel like I have to wash my hands after loading.
The point is not really which chores are better or worse since that's an opinion, the point is to make it the most fair they should rotate them evenly.
I agree it's not fair the boys are always on bathroom and chicken duty. I simply do not agree Mady is a "diva" as a result. Harsh name for a child who has worked her ever loving butt off since she was a kindergartener. I think she's just the most vocal of the children and expresses herself the best, so she was the one explaining everything. For some reason vocal people get labeled as hams and divas. Sad.
I have enough footage from this and the show to demonstrate this child pulls her weight and then some.
Hey y'all. I haven't been on this site for a looooooong time. Hope everybody has been well over the winter.
I stopped posting here back when the show was just Kate's (hers, all hers). After watching an agonizing hour of CWS I wondered if this site was still active, yippee it is. I got me some catching up to do.
Katie Boo Boo hasn't changed one bit from what I watched on CWS. Well she has, actually, she's even worse than I remembered. How deep will she sink into her narcissim (sp?) until she completely derails?
That woman is like the phoenix but I just don't understand how or why. I also don't understand why the show was called Celebrity Wife Swap. Seems like it should be D-lister Wife Swap to me.
So what goes into the dw from bk?
They had cardboard bowls, plastic cutlery, paper cups. Lunch is at school.
Supper is the 8 prison trays, cooking pot (one pot, 8 cans of crap stirred into it), stirring spoon, one salad plate. Doe Kate get to use real silverware? Ok. One fork. Does Kate get a glass glass? Ok. Add one glass. Oh yeah. And 8 sippy cups.
And all that takes *two* dishwashers?
I agree as well the kids are quite rude. Having said that look at their role model. Those little boys look 100% defeated and poor Cara looks so depressed.
kateplusmy8
So, I'm walking away from the schedule to bake 432 cookies (amount needed for rest of school year!) and will look at schedule again later!:)
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Is she a bit "sensitive" about having a schedule...now trying to make herself look less like a control freak? She always seems to jump in with damage control when she's criticized for something.
Weird, weird fixation on numbers, exact # of cookies she plans to bake today, not dozens or just planning to bake a whole lot, but wierd exact number. And off schedule? What is the Sunday 'schedule', and on spring break, too? Maybe she has the kids pulling weeds today and she has the kitchen to herself. Freakin' control obsession.
Hey Bluenoser! Blast from the past.
I do agree the kids can be rude at times. I also agree that's on Kate. Not their fault. They also have moments where they are quite sweet like when Cara slowly opened up to Kendra as she discovered their mutual passion for sports.
Bluenoser in NS -- hello.
Lillian MacD said... 143
''To me this appears to be group cyber bullying. Really, is Kate's business any of ours? No it isn't. I don't understand all the hatred towards her. I do understand the concern for the children but really, all this gossip about their mother? She is their mother and I have no doubt they love her and to me this blog, which they will no doubt read, will hurt those children. Children don't want to hear anything bad about their mother or father regardless of how one thinks those children are being treated.
Shame on all of you''
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To comment or criticize KK's behavior that SHE puts on television is not bullying. To disagree with the way she treats her children is not bullying. KK's abuse of her children happened, and all eight of her children lived it.
As an abused child, I would have given anything for someone....ANYONE to object to the way I was treated. In my opinion, the Gosselin children will be relieved that untold numbers of people were upset by the way their mother treated them, and that a LOT of people spoke up.
Shame on you for taking up for a woman who has mistreated her dogs, and IN HER OWN WORDS brutally beat her toddlers to the point SHE was worried she had gone too far! Shame on YOU!
So if the kids are cleaning the sink, the basement, the family room, the bathrooms, sweeping the floor, clearing the table, loading and unloading the dishwasher, Windexing the stainless steel, straightening the shoes, the book bags, feeding Shoka and the chickens, and Mady and Cara are fixing their own lunch and breakfast, just what the hell DOES Kate do besides, laundry, cooking, and shopping? And why is her bedroom such a pigsty?
Hi Dmasy. Thanks for the welcome.
Yes, Admin, you're right the kids can be quite sweet, especially when they aren't with their mother. I have never seen children so afraid to do anything children should do as those poor little ones.
I have a great career choice for them when they're older. Join the military. Boot camp will be like a summer vacation for them after having a drill sargeant for a mother.
BTW WHAT THE HECK has Kate done to herself. At first glance I couldn't tell her from Kendra. Of course when she opened her mouth to speak it was painfully obvious.
Really, is Kate's business any of ours? No it isn't.
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Yes it is. You don't get to tweet things on a public account and go on national T.V. and cry none of your business. Even Kate doesn't do that. Simple, close twitter and get off T.V. and suddenly you do get to cry it's none of our business.
I have finally seen CWS. Edited -- certainly. Scripted -- absolutely. But, it is alarmingly easy to fill in the blanks. That is one joyless household without affection.
Watch the scene where one boy approaches the counter with an "Oliver Twist" request for some breakfast. Kate tosses two pancakes on his plate. Not a word, smile, or gesture of kindness. She does not even make eye contact with the child -- she just stares over his head at the table.
Kate is clenched with jealousy for Kendra. She wants what Kendra has with every red blood cell in her body.
Really, Kate is a nobody in this world (to quote Yolanda from my guilty please tv show). Kate knows she is a nobody and it is eating at her like a cancer.
I'm sure when Kendra was with them the children saw what a normal mother is like.
At the round table when Kate gave advice I nearly snorted coffee through my nose. She is the last person on this earth who should give parental advice.
Loved little Hank's comeback to Kate telling her she isn't in charge of him. Smart little man.
Yesterday on twitter, someone brought up that Kendra had suffered from post partum depression. So Milo jumps in and tweets:
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack
@msgoody2shoes21 @Kateplusmy8 Good thing Kate didn't get #PostPartumDepression Imagine how the Gs would have suffered w/out her!
Of course, she conveniently forgets that Jon was there, and all the volunteers and help Kate had.
Then Kate-the nurse, no less, tweets:
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8
@MiloandJack @msgoody2shoes21 I had zero time to think about myself and how I was feeling.aware I could slip into it easily and refused!:)
She "refused" to get post partum depression? I'm sure all the thousands of women who suffered from PPD would be thrilled to know that they could have simply just "refused" to get PPD. She makes it sound as if it's a
woman's fault if they suffer PPD. I'm sure Brooke Shields(who suffered from severe PPD) would be happy to hear that.
Kate is a twit said... 139
Did anyone catch it when Kate was supposedly making dinner at Kendra's house, and she was standing in the doorway of the kitchen(I guess), and gives Hank Sr. a come hither look and says, "Would you like a glass of wine?".
She almost looked like she had been sipping a few when she said that. Was that her attempt at playing a sex kitten? She sure didn't act like a mother of eight in that scene.
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Oh, yeah, definitely picked up on that immediately and thought she was really crossing a line w/ Hank, but flirting with a married man seems to be second nature to Kate. Was she just trying to make Steve jealous or is she moving on to her second married man?
Okay, that's a bit over the top...MAYBE, but, uh, probably not.
I was actually embarrassed for Kate when she tried to flirt with Hank. The woman has zero ability to flirt but doesn't seem to realize it. She seems even stiffer than she was when their show was on.
Bet Hank appreciates Kendra all the more now.
Kate is an idiot but I think that face has been established long ago.
Lillian MacD said... 146
I appear to have hit a sore spot Administrator. Bullying is bullying, no matter the gender or age. Perhaps cyber bullying isn't the appropriate term, my mistake. To me trash talking somebody, even a public figure, is wrong. I will leave now, thank you and goodbye.
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Buh-bye!!!!!!!!
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