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«Oldest ‹Older 1001 – 1200 of 1459 Newer› Newest»You know, I used to think that Kate was crazy like a fox.
Now, I think she's as dumb as a box full of rocks.
Really, really, r-e-a-l-l-y, blindingly stupid.
MJ said... 184
Beware anyone using Kate's website, www.kateplusmy8.com. From what Native1111 from TheStir comments are saying, Kate has given Bullyville authority to intercept her e-mails and bully those contacting her (or else her e-mail account and/or site has been hacked). I know if I contacted her I certainly wouldn't want my contact info shared with anyone. It's WRONG, Kate. WRONG.
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Kate just retweeted a tweet from the same person who did that paste bin post outing.
kateplusmy8
RT @funnyb34r_: Also to be clear, ip tracking your own email to said bullies is legal, it's your own property, like a website, cc @kateplusmy8 @BullyVille
So apparently she endorses this? She's really sunk to a newer level. What does she hope to accomplish? Showing the world just how more loathsome she can be?
I hope someone on twitter makes her tweeties aware that Big Brother Kate is watching them.
Exactly, Pat. She is a mother. It's Saturday. Why is her focus on such childish hatefulness? And not even just casually observing it, which I wouldn't blame her for, heck I could even put her on popcorn duty--but getting involved. I guess maybe it's Jon's weekend, but shouldn't she have so much else to preoccupy her with this weekend anyway? This just really shouldn't be distracting her the way it is. At most she should be giving such shenanigans an eye roll and blocking it. She's obsessed with it and it's very concerning.
Um- I mean, I USED to think that Kate was as smart as a fox...
What does she hope to accomplish?
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The million dollar question here. What IS the end game here? What does she want to accomplish? Does she think all these threats and nastiness will make it stop? Examples of when this has worked? It really doesn't work usually. If that worked then there wouldn't be any REAL bullying in schools, since all those kids aren't anonymous.
I guess it never occurs to her that often playing nasty like that just makes the other person more resolute. She's such a hypocrite. She wants people to leave her alone and yet she won't leave them alone. She's guilty of exactly what she's protesting against. Heck even here, a good third of the posts on this very thread wouldn't even be here if she never started this bully thing. She is fully responsible for how much people are talking about her hatefulness. She has the power to stop it, and it's not by encouraging potentially illegal activity.
I swear I read more than 10+ people on Kate's tweet line saying they got her book.
So where are they since she only sold 3 book.?
I think they are playing her for a retweet.
Anon at 197 ~ I agree with you that the photography is poor quality, as is the cover design. The content doesn't seem all that fresh & desirable, either (understatement). We've talked about that here, at great length.
But while I've got no doubts that your colleague's experiences with HCI were/are frustrating --and at times insulting--they're pretty much in line with the rest of the publishing world these days, sad to say.
As for their average author advances, it's difficult to determine if that's an un/reasonable amount--taken at face value, anyway. Publisher pay whatever they think a book merits, based on sales projections and a host of other factors.
Most advances are based on projected sales in the first 6 - 12 months that follow the actual publication date. If a book doesn't earn back that advance during that time (as was probably the case with Kate's IJWYTK), a publisher will be less likely to buy your next book. Similarly, a new publisher will be very reluctant to give you a hefty advance.
Some of the other elements that come into play include: author (name = brand); genre; where (and whether) the book fits into the current marketplace; and the author's "platform" (i.e. potential audience outreach). Some authors are willing to forego an advance, in favor of higher royalties and the publisher's willingness to pay for a p.r. team, a book tour, and/or produce the book in several formats, for local and foreign markets. Subsidiary rights also come into play during these negotiations.
I'm not qualified to address the merits or drawbacks of HCI's business model, which is unknown to me; just pointing out that in regards to the aspects you've mentioned, they're not unique.
If an author gets pain an advance and book sales do not come close to covering that advance, what happens? Does the publishing company eat it or does the author have to pay it back? Hypothetically speaking of course. ;)
Maybe some of the ten bought the book from the publisher? The publisher still has the old amazon price shown and is still charging $18...see if that changes.
I'm a bit surprised HCI even has part-time copy editors. At the (big) publisher I worked at, we contracted freelancers for that type of work because it was cheaper. Also, a $10k advance is well above the norm (unless perhaps you are a huge celeb)--we typically paid $5k at most, divided in two payments, and many of our authors were business people with established reputations.
P.S. If you're on Twitter and are so inclined...
Kate might do well to consider this quotation from Ralph Waldo Emerson:
"Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted."
They eat it.
That's why getting a publisher as an unknown is so hard, no one can be sure people will bite at your novel.
To me that's the main difference between published and self published. You eat it if you self publish, they eat it if you publish.
chefsummer said... 10
I swear I read more than 10+ people on Kate's tweet line saying they got her book.
So where are they since she only sold 3 book.?
I think they are playing her for a retweet
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They are getting it from here:
http://www.hcibooks.com/p-4290-kate-gosselins-love-is-in-the-mix.aspx
She's now up to 5 (one in the last four hours). Oh, and one in Canada. Now who could that be>
I have a friend who writes Christian romance novels, which is a super niche area, but they do sell decent enough to that market, and her advance is only 1500 or so per book. She maybe writes one or two a year. I don't know how much she makes a year but it can't be that much. In learning a bit about this as I go along it's surprising at how little authors make except the really big time guys. I'm doing it purely for fun, not to make money, but some people are trying to make a living and that is difficult.
The Christian romance people, by the way, are like this whole other underground world.
No, authors don't typically have to pay back their advances-- unless, that is, the contract carries a provisional clause. I've never heard of same, but I suppose anything's possible. If sales fall short of expectations, however, that will most definitely impact publisher's mindset about entering into a contract for add'l books.
Five books this morning, four or five bucks max profit from those books. $25 bucks? Or, she could get a real job, pick up a Saturday shift, and take home 20, 25 bucks an hour. $200 bucks or so.
You do the math.
And bonus, she wouldn't be around to get herself involved in questionable "legal" activity.
If you have to pay it back then I don't think you should call it an advance I think you should call it a contingency loan or something.
I think most people probably spend their advances as soon as they get the check!
The advance is really an advance against royalties, and it's meant to cover your expenses in writing the book. You don't start earning royalties until the advance is charged off. If you don't make back the advance, obviously the publisher made a huge mistake in their sales estimates and the book (again, obviously) should never have been published. I don't think I have ever seen or heard of that happening.
Most authors I know tend to plow their advances back into the book itself, to help fund their publicity-related efforts. Marketing a book can get expensive, so they have to invest wisely!
NJGal51 said... 177
Kate Gosselin's Love Is in the Mix: Making Meals into Memories with 108+ Family-Friendly Recipes, Tips, and Traditions [Hardcover]
Kate Gosselin (Author)
List Price: $22.95
Price: $11.22
You Save: $11.73 (51%)
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Hmmmmmmmmmm, the book has only been on sale since Wednesday and the price has already been reduced from $22.95 to $11.22. This is the cut and paste from Amazon just now. I guess the price was a little high for Kate's demographic.
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What??? LOLOLOL Unbelievable!
Smells like Kate's crookbook venture will have the same outcome as her crazy cruise to nowhere.
Join the military, Kate. You can parlay your "talents" there.
*No offence to our decent soldiers*
On second thought, scratch that idea. Our soldiers don't deserve to be punished with the likes of Kate.
This is an old NYT article, given that so much has changed in the publishing world since 2009, but it's interesting, nonetheless. It breaks down the concept of advances into simple terms, and wow: 7 out of 10 books failed to earn back their advances against royalties!
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/12/books/review/Meyer-t.html?_r=0
Does that mean if you preordered it at full price you will get the discounted price?
How bad is it that less than a few days after it was announced there's such a huge price slash?
I was going to say what Improbable said, it seems to me lots of books flop and lots of publishing companies eat it. I guess they hope to make it up on big hits that do well. There are probably areas of publishing that at far more stable like maybe academics. In that case you've got a bunch of people required to buy the book. But being a publisher of novels or celebrity cookbooks or the like would be far more dicey.
It seems to me the only thing more of a gamble than writing a novel is being the publishing company that takes on that novel! Sounds like a very stressful world.
Amazon is offering free shipping on the book as well.
Can someone tell me where, exactly, I can see how many books have been sold. A link or where to look on the page? Thanks.
Robert never said this on his blog, he just mentioned that Kate was filming a show with Kendra Wilkinson.
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Exactly. It was other sites that jumped to that conclusion. And even if Robert did say that, does it matter that much? The point was he exposed the children were filming. Unfortunately when you are dealing with sources sometimes you don't get things 100%. In a perfect world 100% would be nice, but 90 to 95% correct is a pretty decent showing. The alternative is not to say anything at all, in which case we wouldn't have known about the kids filming at all until it was announced. I'm glad he said something so that this could be discussed early.
Here's love in the mix form 2009.
http://blogs.babycenter.com/celebrities/kate-gosselin-says-love-is-in-the-mix/
Admin said at 31 It was other sites that jumped to that conclusion.
In all fairness, I think there was lots of speculation about that here, as well.
Someone posted above about an author having to repay an advance, and it made we wonder about Kate's advance for "I Just Want You To Know". I read that she received several hundred thousand as her advance, yet the book only sold less than 11,000 copies. Doesn't that mean that she has to repay the unearned portion of her advance? After all it is an advance payment on sales, and those sales didn't happen. Zondervan is not such a large publisher that they can cut their losses on such a large amount.
I is funny that the cookbook's price was slashed by half after only a couple days. It makes me think that the novelrank numbers are correct, and either Kate or her so-called publisher (or both) panicked. After all the teasing and lead-up to the announcement, the fans should have been jumping to order. Yet, there were only 3. And probably a similar number on Kate's website. That would mean that about 6 books ordered. 6 books for 6 fans. I guess our estimate of the number of fans was correct. And one fan was tweeting that Kate could earn 1.7 million on this book. I think she'll
be lucky to make $1.70.
Admin said at 31 It was other sites that jumped to that conclusion.
In all fairness, I think there was lots of speculation about that here, as well.
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Oh absolutely when I say other sites I mean besides Robert's site, not besides ours--but it wasn't like we were pulling that info from out of nowhere, other tabs had reported it.
The point being, it wasn't Robert who said that. And even if he did say that it doesn't make him a "liar." More than likely it just means some information got crossed or a source got confused. Happens.
At first I was a little skeptical about Native1111's post. Although it sounded pretty sincere. And that person's posts haven't really been the typical nasty, ugly "hater" posts, either. They've been pretty factual, and that person's opinion, not ugly insults.
It's just always good to keep an open mind, that what you read isn't always the truth. (As opposed to what we all SAW Kate doing, on film, on the realest of real reality shows.)
But, today, in light of Kate's retweet about tracking ip's being legal, it sure sounds like the Native1111 thing is more likely to be true.
Hmmmm.....wouldn't her time be better spent taking a public speaking class? And maybe an etiquette class? Some photography and make-up classes would be good, too.
I would hate to be Kate and I would hate to be her kids. I don't think I have ever seen someone who can cause such hatred toward her. Looking back at my life, I had four kids who were a year and a half apart so I was a very busy mom. I would never had had time to post on something like Twitter all day. She is obviously denying her kids her time and attention. A lot of parents would give their right arm to have the resources that she has and to use those resources to have a more fulfilling life for their families. I really don't understand her.
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localyocul said... 17
She's now up to 5 (one in the last four hours). Oh, and one in Canada. Now who could that be>
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Not I. I'll buy three boxes of cereal with my money and get the recipes off the box.
I would imagine Paige would be the Canadian buyer. Too bad Kate can't just give her most faithful fans free copies of her book. It's only six books.
They've probably sent her hundreds of dollars worth of stuff over the last few years.
"I read that she received several hundred thousand as her advance, yet the book only sold less than 11,000 copies."
You'd have to be a HUGE, HUGE celebrity to merit that kind of advance. There's virtually no way Kate got so much money.
I am not a Kate fan, not at all, but reading that Amazon has slashed her book, a book not even in print for another 6 months, and it is now a whopping 50% off after two days on the market, well I am actually embarrassed for her. This is humiliating. But will she do anything mature, like back off twitter, nope. Here she is engaging with the nutjobs at Bulleyville, and reading crazy Milo's smarmy tweets about the b-day 'surprise' non-present, the dog named Katie Irene. Not a good week after all.
I had two grandchildren over yesterday, ages 9 and 7. There was NO way I had time to be on twitter, or even on my phone or the pc.
The only time that would have allowed for that was while they were eating lunch. But I wanted to sit at the table and converse with them, not be in the kitchen tweeting on my iphone.
I wanted time to interact with each of them, as well as the two of them together.
I can't imagine if there were 8. When do any of them get any one-on-one time with Mommy? I highly suspect that they don't.
If you pre order from Amazon and the price goes down, you pay the lower price. That have a low price guarantee. I'm sure if you're ordering directly from Kate's website the price is not going to go down. As far as getting bookstores interested, they're going to see how things are going on Amazon before jumping into the pool. Unless she foots the bill I don't think will be going on a book tour this time with five star hotels and first class flights...if there's a tour it will be Motel 6 and Grayhound Bus all the way!
Here's a fun thing that I did with the grandkids yesterday.
Even though it's still cold here, we put our winter hats/coats on, I put the convertible top down, and gave the kids each one of those large spinny sunflower type things that go in the garden.
If they hold them above the windows while I'm driving, they spin like crazy. I have never seen kids laugh so much and have so much fun.
They didn't look or sound at all like the beaten down robots we saw on CWS.
If you pre-order the book on Amazon, and the price goes down, you will be charged the lower price.
"Amazon.com's price for not-yet-released items sometimes changes between the time the item is listed for sale and the time it is released and shipped. Whenever you pre-order a book, CD, video, DVD, software, or video game, the price we charge when we ship it to you will be the lowest price offered by Amazon.com between the time you placed your order and the end of the day of the release date."
chefsummer-the free shipping applies only IF your total order is $25 or more. You can add additional items to your cart to bring the price of the order up to $25 or more, but usually all your items have to be sent in one shipment and to the same address. Therefore, you would have to wait to receive the other items until the book is shipped.
However, if you are an Amazon Prime member, you can get free shipping.
I have not had chance to read ask comments, apologies if this is duplicate. Checking out people mag today, April 8 is date on cover. Half page blurb in books section about Ms Kreider s crookbook, with by line Kate Coyne. Page 57 if anyone checks it out in the grocery store line. Title, photo of book superimposed over photo of Ms Kreider, three quick q&a. You could almost mistake it for a half page advertorial, except no ordering info, no publishing date, no website link. Wording is interesting, under title, ” nearly two years after her infamous reality show ended”. From a brief glance at the article, a casual reader might think book is out now and would go looking for it in stores.
On to more interesting topics, WAAAAAH! Florida Gulf Coast University Eagles basketball team lost to Florida Gators last night in third round NCAA game. It was a very good game, but I hate to see the Eagles go. They were truly having FUN being in the tournament!
On brighter side, head basketball coach Shaka Smart had signed contract that goes thru 2023! What he negotiated as part of his contract: higher salaries for his assistant coaches and other staff including the academic advisor for all athletic team members, better meal plan for athletes, commitment for new training facility, better training equipment, better video equipment, more charter flights for the team for away games. Things that improve the lives of all the staff and the student athletes, NOT just more money for him.
Last year a reporter asked Shaka Smart why he turned down the head coaching job at Illinois. He said some good advice he had received was ” DON'T RUN AWAY FROM HAPPY!” His wife likes Richmond, VCU and the city of Richmond appreciate him and support the team, and in his fourth year here he has been able to develop the program he wants. a great example of principle that when you reward people, you can get great results and develop great loyalty.
Interesting...maybe she did get a large advance, given that she had a 4-book contract with Zondervan (that is, she sold them the rights to four book concepts):
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_books_has_Kate_Gosselin_sold
OrangeCrusher1 said... 40
I am not a Kate fan, not at all, but reading that Amazon has slashed her book, a book not even in print for another 6 months, and it is now a whopping 50% off after two days on the market, well I am actually embarrassed for her.
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Someone has to be embarrassed, she sure won't be. She doesn't do embarrassment. She'd rather say she was bullied and blame the haterz for low sales. It would never occur to her that her book sucks. Someone else always has to take responsibity for her screw-ups.
But since you brought up the word, I have thought for a long time that that is the word her sheeple confuse with jellus. We are not jellus of her, we're imbarrussed FOR her when she does these things.
Interesting article on self-publishing and POD(Print on Demand) publishers, called "25 things you should know about self-publishing", included in the 25 things is this:
7. If you use an ISBN provided by a POD publisher, they will be the publisher on record not you or your company.
http://www.selfpublishinginstilettos.com/25-things-you-should-know-about-self-publishing/
So HCI's tweet that they are the "publisher" is basically correct, because Kate wouldn't be considered the publisher.
HCI Books @HCIBooks1 27 Mar
@SuzeW718 @NaughtyNiceRob @Kateplusmy8's book is being published by @HCIBooks1, not by HCI Printing & Publishing. Not a self-published book.
She got a good deal from Zondervan, IMO, because she had backing from TLC. She doesn't have that clout now. She is no better than ,say Robert ,when it comes to publishing.
Mel, sounds like you had a great time with grandkids. I agree how would anyone have time to spend with kids if you are twittering all day? Could you really be present mentally and emotionally as well as physically?
If you go back and read Robert's blog post, it was awkwardly worded about Mom Swap. What he said was that Kendra formed her own film production company to market her sex tape. There was discussion on this blog and another that maybe Kate and Steve had formed some LLC. He did not say Kate formed a film production company.
Don't be gleeful yet about the Amazon price. From what I read online, it is a pricing strategy of Amazon's to encourage sales, have people put it on their wish list, etc. so most likely the price will go back up. They do this all the time.
Here's the link to look up Kate's sale's rank at Amazon: http://www.novelrank.com/track.php
ISBN 0757317642
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The free shipping deal if you spend $25 with Amazon is nothing special for Kate's book. Their Super Saver Shipping is a very common special that they've got running on a huge number of items right now.
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There was discussion on this blog and another that maybe Kate and Steve had formed some LLC. He did not say Kate formed a film production company.
You're right, Robert didn't say that Steve and Kate had formed a production company but someone posted sometime last year that she had formed one. I think that was part of the confusion. I don't remember the specifics, but it is called something like or SK8. I'm sure someone here will remember the details, tho.
TLC stinks at 49:
Do you have a link for that? I'm curious to learn more. If true, it seems to me a deceptive practice. Small price variances in one direction or the other, I can easily understand, but not a 50% drop/markup!
Careful there, Kate. It may "legal" to view that IP but it's not necessarily legal to threaten or harass with such information. She's so dumb. Just because seeing an IP is legal doesn't mean every single thing you do with that information is legal.
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And then she wonders why she is so disliked. Tears were shed when she cried that everyone leaves her. She didn't get it. Well, heck, Kate, doing stuff like this is exactly why. Obtaining information, even if it's legal, is illegal depending on what you do with it. It isn't going to win friends and influence people for you! She'll come out of this looking more and more like the loathsome person she is.
She keeps digging that hole deeper and deeper and doesn't know when to stop. Had she been a decent, honest person from the beginning, she wouldn't have such hatred against her and her actions. It's all her own doing. She better be careful. She's going to "out" and harass the wrong person and all hell is going to break loose. She's just too dumb to see it.
I'm behind on reading the posts. Did bullyville, with her blessings, out another person, and where? I read the Stir comment from Native -- was anything done with the information this John person says he obtained?
TLC stinks said... 49
Don't be gleeful yet about the Amazon price. From what I read online, it is a pricing strategy of Amazon's to encourage sales, have people put it on their wish list, etc. so most likely the price will go back up. They do this all the time.
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I understand this strategy, BUT since the book is on pre-order, Amazon will charge your account the LOWEST price the book was listed during the pre-order period, even if the price later increases.
It may generate more sales, but the total revenue from books sold will be less. At the current price, twice as many books would have to be sold in order to get the same revenue as when the book was originally listed.
I also wonder if HCI Books made a mistake telling a tweeter that the book will be available as an ebook, but not until September. Some people will wait until then to purchase the book-although I don't know why anyone would want a cookbook in ebook format.
Even bobble-headed Deanna should know that getting involved with this BullyVille stuff and the hacker/outers isn't a good thing. Kate just RTed this:
Bobble-headed Deanna appears to know nothing much except how to create a smoky eye. I don't think she's been blessed with too much upstairs.
Birds of a feather...
Yes the price on Amazon may go back up but those who have ordered will get it at the lower price and those who have not ordered will think twice at the $23 price. I think that this is still a no win situation for Kate. She's not the star that she thinks she is and therefore will not sell thousands and thousands of copies of this book. The twitterbots are all set to tweet that they've already purchased their copy, but tweeting that you've bought a copy and actually buying one are two different things. As someone has already mentioned all those that are saying that they've bought the book have only been around for about 5 days, make the one tweet and then disappear again.
If you're on Kate's Christmas list you know what you'll be getting for Christmas this year!
Wait a minute. You seem to be saying that all you did was click on the tweeter's name and got all that information? How on earth is that possible with ''just ONE click'' on a name on twitter? I'd really like you to explain this.
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No. I didn't click on the Tweeter's name because I didn't have this. The person here said that she was tweeting. I went to Twitter, looked who was tweeting, found the person (took a few seconds), went to google and typed in the actual name, and with one click, found all of the information I posted last night, including current address (years lived at each location), and the other info I posted. That was just one site. I had no interest in knowing anything else, so I ended it there. It's possible more info was available, but I didn't bother looking because I really didn't care. I just wanted to see how easy it was to obtain the information. The site was not peoplefinder or intelius.
it's quite scary, actually, to see what info is out there, and it especially frightening if it gets into the hands of a sheeple or someone like bullyville and Kate's henchmen.
Yes the price on Amazon may go back up but those who have ordered will get it at the lower price and those who have not ordered will think twice at the $23 price. I think that this is still a no win situation for Kate.
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That's sorta true. The price for those who ordered will be whatever the price is at the time of release, so long as it's not more than the price listed at the time they ordered. Make sense?
If they ordered at $22.95, whatever the price is at the time of release will be what they pay. If Amazon raises it back up to $22.95 (or anything less) between now and then, that's the price. Anyone that pre-orders will pay no more than $22.95 if the price ends up higher (which isn't likely).
I agree how would anyone have time to spend with kids if you are twittering all day? Could you really be present mentally and emotionally as well as physically?
Exactly. I would have been present physically only. If I'd been spending time thinking about checking twitter, then checking it, then typing a response (Kate says she's quick, but so am I), that's time that I've missed the flow of the interaction with the kids.
I actually spent some time doing this one day, just to see how it felt. I was astounded at how disconnected I was from the kids. And I only did it over the space of 3 hours, not all day.
It was interesting....I'd expected to feel somewhat disconnected, at least during the time I was checking/typing. But I ended up feeling like I'd hadn't even spent time with the kids.
It felt like they were annoying interruptions to my twittering. I so often felt like, guys! Be quiet! Stop bothering me! Go away! Find something to do elsewhere, will ya?!
That twittering stuff is truly an addiction. I think it can get quite out of hand, if you let it. Much like video games.
I guess I should add to that that I'm talking about the early buyers that ordered it at full price. If anyone actually did order it after the price cut, they are locked in at the lower price.
Barnes & Noble now has the book listed on their site also. The price there is also $11.22, the as Amazon has listed.
So this seems more like it was the publisher who discounted the price-not Amazon.
http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/kate-gosselins-love-is-in-the-mix-kate-gosselin/1114955459?ean=9780757317644
At Amazon, if the price goes up, but never goes below $11.22, no matter what the price is on the release date, those who pre-ordered the book will only be charged the $11.22. I don't know if B&N has a similar guarantee.
http://www.digitalbookworld.com/2011/price-pulsing-the-benefits-of-dynamic-pricing-on-amazon/
Lower price, sell more, and make best seller list. Go back to higher price because the book is so popular. It's a marketing strategy.
MJ @ 183
Good advice -- if you tweet, don't use your real name, or any part of your real name as your Twitter name, including the one that you use on other blogs. It's kind of a no-brainer, but if you do that, it makes it so much easier for someone to uncover and publish your identity.
Bunny Trail said... 59
''No. I didn't click on the Tweeter's name because I didn't have this. The person here said that she was tweeting. I went to Twitter, looked who was tweeting, found the person (took a few seconds), went to google and typed in the actual name....''
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Thank you for your response. If I'm understanding you correctly, you were able to get all the information because the tweeter used her real name. As long as you know the real name, anyone can get all sorts of information on google w/one click.
The problem is not that a poster said she was tweeting. The problem is that the poster used her real name on twitter...and that is never good, anywhere on the internet!
Kate is a twit, Amazon would not do this if it did not boost sales. I read on a writer's blog that the royality is not affected by this strategy. She gets her royality based on books sold at the list price.
When Milo was on her birthday surprise frenzy the other night, I figured she was going for a dog. I have no idea what made me think that, and I was just about to post it when she tweeted the photo of Katie Irene II. I was only part right in my guess, however...I thought she had found Nala at a foster home and was going to bring her home and then announce the surprise to Kate that Nala was with her.
Barns and Noble price matches Amazon.. It's not the publisher's decision. Those who have published, can you clarify about royalties with discounted book?
TLC stinks said... 67
Thanks for that info. Yes, I understand that they are discounting to book to boost sales, but the book was only announced 2 days ago. That means that they aren't getting the response they expected and are trying to up the pre-orders.
The book isn't even being released until 5 months from now. To me, it seems a little early to be reducing the price in order to get more sales.
Royalties aren't typically based on list price. Rarely so, in fact.
These sorts of details are typically spelled out in the book contract. But think about it in practical terms: It'd do no good to place books in big-box stores like Costco and Walmart if the publisher had to turn around and pay the author a hefty percentage of a deeply discounted price. And to complicate that equation even further, some outlets buy books in bulk for far less.
Another example: high-profile pundits (like Sara Palin) benefit from what looks like a best-selling book, numbers-wise. But those numbers are typically inflated by virtue of the fact that they're bundled with other products (i.e., buy The Weekly Standard and we'll throw in a copy of ____'S latest NYT bestseller, ____.
Lots of back-door deals & sleight of hand when it comes to the publishing world...bestseller lists, especially. Not the only industry in which it happens, but it boggles the mind to think about the possibilities.
Thank you for your response. If I'm understanding you correctly, you were able to get all the information because the tweeter used her real name.
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You're welcome. The person said she was tweeting. Only PART of the name she used for blogging was used on Twitter. That info, plus the style of writing, led me to put it into google.
"The problem is not that a poster said she was tweeting."
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Partly. The problem was that the poster said she was tweeting. Otherwise I never would have put the two and two together to look on Twitter -- the blogging here and the tweets there tied the two together even though the name was not exactly the same.
I have to assume since the book's price has been slashed that Kate will get a much smaller cut. There is no way that book is going to sell well at any price. Every comment on Amazon is negative, negative, negative. People despise her. Interesting that it doesn't look like she has been on twitter much since the price reduction. Just a couple of lame retweets that she is known for.
Bunny Trail said... 72
"The problem is not that a poster said she was tweeting."
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''Partly. The problem was that the poster said she was tweeting. Otherwise I never would have put the two and two together to look on Twitter -- the blogging here and the tweets there tied the two together even though the name was not exactly the same.''
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Not exactly. The problem is that the poster used her real name on twitter. It was there for anyone that wanted to look on twitter, whether or not the poster said on 15 Minutes that she was tweeting there. YOU may not have looked for here till you read her comment on this blog, but the name was there for anyone to check out....even those who never read this blog.
Bottom line....the poster's use of her real name on twitter (or anywhere else on the internet) was the problem.
Thanks, Improbable Dreams. I know nothing about the contracts, just what was on the Internet.
I agree, it's odd that the price has been slashed so soon. Kate cannot be thrilled. The demand must be very poor. I guess we'll just see how it plays on Amazon. I never could understand how her first book ever got on the bestseller's list anyway. Have any of her tweeties commented to her about the price reduction? LOL
Thanks for that info. Yes, I understand that they are discounting to book to boost sales, but the book was only announced 2 days ago. That means that they aren't getting the response they expected and are trying to up the pre-orders.
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Shades of the ill-fated cruise. They were expecting hundreds to sign up, but within just a short amount of time, there was nothing even close to the number they had anticipated. And it didn't get any better as time went by.
Improbable Dreams said... 11
Anon at 197 ~ I agree with you that the photography is poor quality, as is the cover design. The content doesn't seem all that fresh & desirable, either (understatement). We've talked about that here, at great length.
But while I've got no doubts that your colleague's experiences with HCI were/are frustrating --and at times insulting--they're pretty much in line with the rest of the publishing world these days, sad to say.
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I've worked in publishing for almost 20 years, and I think I have a pretty good idea of what is professional and what isn't. In my opinion, and that is all it is, based on what my friend had told me: HCI doesn't have what I would consider a professional operation. They do publish magazines, I consider those to be more along the lines of professional, rather than the books they publish. The books?? Vanity, nothing more, nothing less.
And not for nothing, but a "celebrity author" can rake in a pretty good advance if they have an audience. Kate does not, which is why she ended up at a low-end operation. Who else would touch this project, yet alone green light it? Publishing is NOT about quality, it's about revenue. If anyone thought they could make money off Kate, they'd be lining up at the door.
They're not.
TLC stinks said... 64
http://www.digitalbookworld.com/2011/price-pulsing-the-benefits-of-dynamic-pricing-on-amazon/
Lower price, sell more, and make best seller list. Go back to higher price because the book is so popular. It's a marketing strategy.
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Based on that article it sounds like it is the author's decision to drop the price, promote it like crazy, then raise the price again. Is Kate doing that, promoting the book on twitter at 50% off?
MeLyn @BluMyst 16m
@Kateplusmy8 is Faithful to her God, friends and family
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It just makes you wonder if these people are drunk tweeting, incredibly stupid, or just yanking some chains because nobody, other than Milo, could possibly believe this.
I wonder if Kate is mad at her "tweeties" for not buying the book like they said they were.
@KnowsTheTruth Why do you suppose @Kateplusmy8 calls everyone and I mean EVERYONE a liar but me?..............Bueller?
So true, Robert.
Kate retweets platitudes, but does she ever think that they may actually apply to her?
kateplusmy8
RT @LifeTools: Every negative action has equally negative consequences. That's why it's so important to think before you act.
Does she ever think before she acts? Retweeting bullyville putting a bounty and hater's heads, and then later deleting the retweets, just like she did when she retweeted the "hackers".
Thinking before she acts is not one of Kate's qualities-not by a long shot. If she thought before she acted, Robert wouldn't have had her journals in order to put them in a book.
I just have to love how one of the writers at gather.com interprets Kate's tweets.
"According to a new tweet released on March 28, Kate Gosselin revealed to her followers that she never goes out for dinner on her birthday, since she is always taking care of her children. "For the 1st yr ever, we went out for dinner for my birthday and I BOUGHT myself a cake=no cooking, no baking, no clean up! #happybirthday2me," she revealed. Sure, she has been a stay-at-home mother for her eight children prior to getting a divorce from Jon Gosselin, but it sounds odd that Jon never took Kate out for dinner on her birthday."
I guess she doesn't know or doesn't remember that last year Kate was with Steve in Las Vegas on her birthday-without her children.
Tweet, I did not read the article's comments, so I guess it's possible, if it's price pulsing, that Kate or the publisher made the decision to temporary lower the price to boost sales. Proves the book is not that popular. Bottom line, whoever made that call on slashing the price even if just a result of Amazon playing the pricing game, the book is not selling. They are taking a chance in attempting to get her on the best seller's list, IMO. Won't work. She's yesterday's news.
Does anyone recall if the same thing was done with Beth's book?
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I'm truly sorry if you took my comments as an affront. I meant no disrespect, and I wasn't disagreeing with what you said. I was just commenting on the fact that. beyond the production quality of the cover shot, the examples you offered re HCI aren't out of line with what many authors & editors are dealing with right now, with respect to bigger-name publishers.
It's Admin's policy to trust and verify anonymous "insider" views, so I took your statements at face value. I didn't call into question the things you've left unsaid; you had your reasons for mentioning some things and omitting others. I respect your right to make that choice. But the examples you provided in your first post spoke to HCI's business operations, not their level of professionalism. I was left to wonder about what you meant by that, especially since the information on HCI's own website is p.r.-oriented and therefore somewhat opaque.
I hope I've not muddied the waters even further. We're all information-gatherers here, assembled for similar reasons. No one's looking down their noses at other posts/posters...not that I know of, anyway. :)
I'm all for the kids rights and never being filmed AGAIN but I don't see what calling someone a bobble head is accomplishing. It makes us as bad as when the sheep called Ellen big nose. It's petty and immature. IMO only.
First I want to say thanks again to all well wishers and advice. You are all so kind.
Second, the Milo naming the dog thing, Kate will not like that at all. Remember in Roberts book where Kate wanted to sue the person for having the nerve to name their boy Aiden? (sorry for the spelling) She was ANGRY.
Kate is a twit said... 83
I guess she doesn't know or doesn't remember that last year Kate was with Steve in Las Vegas on her birthday-without her children.
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And didn't TLC arrange for Jamie to take her to NYC for her "surprise" birthday weekend? Again, minus the kids.
At the height of Kate's career she had a narcisstic bubble around her where she was protected by a very large TV organization and her personal handler Steve. Who knows what idiotic things she said/did that we never even heard about?
Today, Kate does not have those people in her bubble, in fact, I believe her bubble has burst and we are seeing her very painful downfall.
Bully ville may be Kate's only resource to protect herself. Her previous experience with being somewhat above social morals seems to have her thinking she still roams in that galaxy.
Martha Stewart ended up being caught. How long before Kate is caught?
I couldnt find that tweet from Robert posted above, but the "sediment" is right.. Kate HAS told everyone they are liars, but not Robert!
Yay Robert! I never got to buy your last book, but am waiting for the next round!!
Good luck!!! Glad to hear you are still standing!
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RT @LifeTools: Every negative action has equally negative consequences. That's why it's so important to think before you act.
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She completely lost her mind.
Isee Kate's on twitter silence. Trying to ignore Milo's question about what mady was so upset in the Alaska picture?
I hope the kids are with Jon for Easter since Kate appeared to have them for Christmas.
Meagler said... 90
Isee Kate's on twitter silence. Trying to ignore Milo's question about what mady was so upset in the Alaska picture?
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Maybe Laverne and Shirley told her to stay off twitter after she stirred up more trouble for herself on it yesterday.
Amy Roloff donated all proceeds from the sales of the cookbook to her foundation. Her foundation website lists the many sponsors and contributors to her causes. Clearly, she has a the respect of her community and the ability to inspire others.
http://amyroloffcharityfoundation.org/mission-statement
MISSION STATEMENT OF THE AMY ROLOFF CHARITY FOUNDATION: The Amy Roloff Charity Foundation (ARCF) will advocate, inspire and add value to the lives of youth who face personal life challenges.
Makes me wonder what Kate's mission statement would be...
I'm pretty sure that it is customary for someone to purchase books to boost sales demand, generate buzz, etc.. The fact that hasn't been done is more proof that Kate no longer has a team. The People blurb someone described sounds like a press release that she sent directly to Coyne. That would explain why there were no details or actual information. Typical Kate crappy writing.
ExNurse: I believe Kate's mission stement would be this:
MISSION STATEMENT FOR KATE GOSSELIN: The Kate Gosselin Grifting Foundation (KGGF) will advocate, inspire and add value to the life of herself when faced with personal life challenges in paying for ANYTHING out of her own pocket.
I think she's scared that Robert;s bbaaccckkk!!!!
Meagler said... 89
''At the height of Kate's career she had a narcisstic bubble around her where she was protected by a very large TV organization and her personal handler Steve.''
''Bully ville may be Kate's only resource to protect herself. Her previous experience with being somewhat above social morals seems to have her thinking she still roams in that galaxy''
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Meagler, I really like your phrase ''narcisstic bubble''. That is a very good way to describe the reason KK has been able to avoid dealing with the consequences of her behavior.
I agree that KK has turned to Bullyville in an attempt to find the same sort of protection, but once again she has revealed the extent of her mental health problems and low IQ, with that choice. Anyone with a lick of common sense, or two working brain cells would realize that depending on something called ''Bullyville'' to rescue her from people who disagree with her is not going to end well.
I'm going to repeat another poster's quote by Ralph Waldo Emerson:
"Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted." KK is digging the hole deeper and deeper with her ''vulgar mistake''!!
Martha Stewart ended up being caught. How long before Kate is caught? 89
I think she's been caught. She's just not important enough to make news.
Waiting on Robert's book...........
I just hope she doesn't give this dog botox to erase that vertical line between her eyes, or heaven forbid, buy her a good bra. 151
I'm waiting for "katie pooped in katie's unnerwears."
Wowzer LOL!!
Is Kate on a crying jag?
@Kateplusmy8: RT @Jsquared_weak @Kateplusmy8 http://t.co/zHVO4aAI(preview) WOW! THIS SUMS ME UP TODAY:)! THANKYOU!
Wowzer! ha ha, Love it!!!
Remona Blue: Yep, Katie Irene's pedestal is crumblin, isnt it! btw.. just so no one attacks me for plagarism, I didnt coin the term narcissistic bubble. I have heard it before in the psychology pop culture.
Politicians and celebrities who were nobodies before their fame claim, often end up in narcissistic bubbles, then when their 15 minutes are up, they fall hard.
I can think of a few locals in my area suffering from this ...can you imagine when its even grander for a celebrity with more far reaching recognition?
Crying sums her up today?? She sounds unstable. She has a beautiful family, home, life (well, on paper) and is selling a book, what is there to cry about??? She insults those who have every right to cry.
She's crying cuz' as stated in her (faux) mission statement...her book is now at 1/2 price and HER "foundation" is losing money! Lol
Improbable Dreams said... 100
Is Kate on a crying jag?
@Kateplusmy8: RT @Jsquared_weak @Kateplusmy8 http://t.co/zHVO4aAI(preview) WOW! THIS SUMS ME UP TODAY:)! THANKYOU!
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ID- That retweet of Kate's is from March 15, 2012, over a year ago.
You can see the original date and retweet and date here:
https://twitter.com/Kateplusmy8/status/180285891523260416
I've seen that and other older retweets of Kate show up over and over again. It must be twitterbots who keep making those retweets.
Improbable Dreams said... 100
Is Kate on a crying jag?
@Kateplusmy8: RT @Jsquared_weak @Kateplusmy8 http://t.co/zHVO4aAI(preview) WOW! THIS SUMS ME UP TODAY:)! THANKYOU!
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That tweet looks like it's dated March 15.
One episode had the kids 'arrange' for the white bus to pick them all up and take Kate to a place where they made her birthday cakes ( or cupcakes?) which Kate said 'their own idea."
The second reason she might be crying is because she finally had something named after "her wonderful ness" and she now has a namesake that licks her own ass....well at least that's organic!!! Lol
I'm going to repeat another poster's quote by Ralph Waldo Emerson:
"Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted." KK is digging the hole deeper and deeper with her ''vulgar mistake''!!
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I was thinking about Milo, frantically e-mailing and tweeting everyone, media, celebrities, and what have you, making sure that Kate stays relevant and in demand. What I don't get is Milo and the sheeple still proclaiming that Kate is such a well-known media darling who is so popular and such a big draw. She doesn't understand that yes, Kate brings in viewers, but only to watch her behavior as she falls on her face. Milo is under the delusion that the world loves Kate...she can't get it through her thick head that no, Kate is not a beloved celebrity. Kate is a disliked celebrity and THAT is the reason she stays relevant.
Amy Roloff donated all proceeds from the sales of the cookbook to her foundation. Her foundation website lists the many sponsors and contributors to her causes. Clearly, she has a the respect of her community and the ability to inspire others.
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I said this a long time ago when Kate was going on and on about her book. The way to redeem herself (partly, at least it would be a start) would be for her to donate all proceeds of any book she writes to charity.
Not going to happen.
Meagler said... 92
Isee Kate's on twitter silence. Trying to ignore Milo's question about what mady was so upset in the Alaska picture?
I hope the kids are with Jon for Easter since Kate appeared to have them for Christmas
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Jon probably does have the kids for Easter. Not because of Christmas but because she had him for her billion-egg Easter last year. That's why she's twitter silent..she doesn't have the kids.
Love Kate's new Farrah Fawcett hair style. I know it's the in thing with all the blondes on tv, but does she have to follow every trend of all the tv bimbos. Have some originality Kate. How about not be pencil thin and not be a blonde? She is pitiful.
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Good luck!!! Glad to hear you are still standing!
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His theme song could be Elton John's "I'm Still Standing," the song Kate totally screwed up on DWTS jive.
"You could never know what it's like
Your blood like winter freezes just like ice
And there's a cold lonely light that shines from you
You'll wind up like the wreck you hide behind that mask you use
Don't you know I'm still standing better than I ever did
Looking like a true survivor, feeling like a little kid
I'm still standing yeah yeah yeah
I'm still standing yeah yeah yeah..."
Twitter silence = kids with dad for this holiday. She's probably lying down in a dark room with a bottle of wine. Or watching Sound of Music over and over again. No friends, no family, no Easter plans. It does not have to be this way, she chooses this life. And her priorities are twisted - kids are in her presence, she's on twitter non-stop, but when they're gone, twitter goes silent.
Somewhere In Time said... 108
''What I don't get is Milo and the sheeple still proclaiming that Kate is such a well-known media darling who is so popular and such a big draw. She doesn't understand that yes, Kate brings in viewers, but only to watch her behavior as she falls on her face. Milo is under the delusion that the world loves Kate...she can't get it through her thick head that no, Kate is not a beloved celebrity. Kate is a disliked celebrity and THAT is the reason she stays relevant''
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While I agree that Milo is thick-headed (as is KK)...but that is because she believes every. single. lie. that KK ever told.
Just think of that KK birthday trip that Milo made, in order to get a dog because she ''knows'' that KK loves animals....because KK said so. 99.999% of the people reading that Milo got a dog and named it after KK knew that KK was NOT going to be amused or flattered. KK says that ''thousands'' begged for a cookbook, so Milo believes her, and wants to alert the media that KK has written a cookbook, as ''thousands'' wanted.
I think that if you look back over Milo's comments they are supporting or defending something that KK said and/or did. I don't know if Milo is actually stupid, or if she is just a sad person who has decided to hero worship someone who does not deserve the adoration.
Thanks for the clarification regarding the retweeted message about Kate's crying jag.
Lots of Twitterbots on her timeline today, I've noticed, soothing her with affirming messages. Trying to little avail to staunch the flow of negativity, too, I see. #transparent #fruitless #wasteofmoney
I'm all for the kids rights and never being filmed AGAIN but I don't see what calling someone a bobble head is accomplishing. It makes us as bad as when the sheep called Ellen big nose. It's petty and immature. IMO only.
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That was calling Ellen out on a physical feature that she couldn't help. It's never right. It was cruel. I've always had a problem when Kate has been called wonky eye.
Bobble head describes Deanna's behavior on CWS. She did exactly that. She nodded her head up and down like someone programmed to do so. She looked ridiculous.
With Robert's appearance on twitter last night, I also hope that means the book will be out soon.
Wouldn't it be a hoot if it was re-released on Monday, April Fools' Day? Since that is also Jon's birthday, that would be a great present.
Hopefully, the kids are spending this weekend with Jon. Not only because of Easter, but also because of his birthday.
Jessica Craft @jessicacraft1 18m
And more importantly, has anyone heard from Kate Gosselin and her 8 children lately? Someone should check on them.
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How many Gladys Kravitz people are on Twitter? These people are strange...REALLY strange! :-)
From People:
"Most days I feel like my bedroom is a waste of square footage because I consider the kitchen 'my room' ".
And writer credited with this page - Kate Coyne
I wonder if Kate is starting to understand that she is done. Even her kids are done, media wise. They were cute little babies at one point in time...they are no longer fun to look at. And it has little to do with their looks. It's just so sad what we saw those kids endure on JK8 and K8. And the realization that they must still be suffering at their crazy, angry, hateful and hated mother's hands. They were always Kate's trump card and she ruined it. Actually, she was destined to fail from the beginning. Having children with the intention of gaining notoriety is quite a sick plan. Now what is she gonna do? Get a job or some such nonsense?
Book pre-orders = 7 US, 1 in Canada
With a week-long hype on the surprise, that's got to be humiliating. Even the reduction in price didn't bring in hundreds of pre-orders from her 150,000 followers. Geez...
It wouldn't surprise me if Milo would order a hundred or so, just to boost the sales and make her look like she's still in demand.
While I agree that Milo is thick-headed (as is KK)...but that is because she believes every. single. lie. that KK ever told.
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I think the word is gullible.
"I don't know if Milo is actually stupid, or if she is just a sad person who has decided to hero worship someone who does not deserve the adoration."
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Both.
If the kitchen is Kate's room, where do Mady and Cara give her the massages?
On second thought, never mind. Ugh.
What wouldn't surprise me is if some true haters preordered a bunch of copies and then cancelled close to publishing date. That would be meaner than mean, but I wouldn't put it past some of them.
To Children First (#121) or anyone else: I am not very computer savvy nor am book-publishing-ish savvy. Where did you get the info on Khate's dismal book pre-orders? Thanks.
PDMan 60 -- Not quite. If the book is pre-ordered at $22.95, but the price drops to $11.95 for a pre-order, then the person who ordered it at $22.95 gets it for $11.95, even if the price goes back up to $22.95 by the release date. However, if you pre-order it at $11.95 and the price goes back up to $22.95 by shipping, you still get it for whatever the price was when you pre-ordered it. In other words, you get it for the lowest price it was available for between the time you ordered it and the time it was released. Amazon won't raise your price after you pre-order, but they may lower it. Also, IIRC, if you order merchandise that is already available plus pre-order something to bring the total up to the $25 to qualify for free shipping (assuming you aren't a Prime member), then you don't have to wait for your existing merchandise. It ships right away and the pre-order ships when available. HOWEVER, it's been a while since I ordered existing and pre-order mdse. in the same order, so I may be remembering incorrectly. This only applies to Amazon. I've been ordering from Amazon for years, and there are certain authors I always pre-order. It's not unusual for the price to drop at some point between the beginning of the pre-order period and release date. However, I don't ever recall the price dropping to half the original list price. Usually the drop is a few dollars at best.
Kateplusmy8
Just finished our HUGE annual Easter Egg Hunt (today bc supposed to rain tomorrow) and now off to make home made pizza by request of kids!
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It has to be a HUGE annual egg hunt...it can't be just an egg hunt that kids all over the country have -- that would be too mediocre.
I wonder if she hired the same people who have hidden the eggs in the past.
Well Kate made certain to announce they did their HUGE easter Egg hunt today instead of tomorrow due to rain. Or more like they will be ith Jon.
For being such a Chef she sure makes pizza a lot. even if it is the kids request, doesnt mean you have to do it. What about a nice ham and scallopped potatoes, or even a turkey?
I fail to understand the custody arrangements, since Kate appears to have all the holidays on her turf lately. Unless she is making things up. Oh wait, it's Kate. Can't believe anything she says.
I can't imagine the twins being into hunting for Easter eggs at their age. Hopefully, the "littles" got to invite friends over for the hunt. They're always treated like a pack and so isolated!
DH and I went to a farmers market this morning and the parking lot was so crowded. I thought, "OK, lots of folks shopping for Easter", but we began to see lots of little kids with baskets, and realized the town was having its community Easter egg hunt (or whatever the call it), actually hunting for candy strewn about the park.
There were so many excited kids! Gosh, they were having a ball.
Sure is a shame Wernersville doesn't have one like that....
Kate mentions they are having pizza for dinner and out come the sheeple:
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@Kateplusmy8 what's your recipe for homemade pizza?
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@Kateplusmy8 Is your pizza crust recipe in your new cook bookK8, if not, wondering if ucould post on your website sometime!Tks. #happyeaster
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Kate says they had their egg hunt today because it's going to rain tomorrow, and then this one tweets...
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@Kateplusmy8 what a fun day! Do you put what's everywhere in te house?? Upstairs downstairs etc? Happy Easter !
OUTSIDE, genius. That's why she had the egg hunt today. Unless it rains inside her house, the egg hunt was OUTSIDE!
Are sheeple really this dumb, or do they just pretend to be so she will tweet them back?
There were so many excited kids! Gosh, they were having a ball.
Sure is a shame Wernersville doesn't have one like that....
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There is a community egg hunt in their neighborhood. It was held last week. There were also quite a few egg hunts today in nearby communities.
OrangeCrusher1 said... 129
''I fail to understand the custody arrangements, since Kate appears to have all the holidays on her turf lately. Unless she is making things up. Oh wait, it's Kate. Can't believe anything she says''
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Exactly what I was thinking! I don't think she has the kids...she's once again being the lying liar that lies. Wasn't it last year when she went on and on and on and on about stuffing all those jillion plastic eggs? Then suddenly, they are all found, emptied and dumped in the plastic bin. Robert busted her butt good on that, exposing that she hired someone to hide the eggs, and then didn't even stay outside to watch the kids. She is beneath contempt!
I notice that she hasn't produced photos of the ''HUGE'' egg hunt. It would be really funny if she did post some photos only to be exposed that they were last year's!!!
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Just finished our HUGE annual Easter Egg Hunt (today bc supposed to rain tomorrow) and now off to make home made pizza by request of kids!
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Oh good. She finally found the weather channel.
There is a community egg hunt in their neighborhood. It was held last week. There were also quite a few egg hunts today in nearby communities.
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I had a sneaky feeling that there would be plenty of community events to participate in ;-)
It's nice to have a little egg hunt on Easter morning, but I wish the kids could be off the compound and with friends, or gasp, family, cousins and grandparents who could get to see them run around with other kids their age.
You know, they could make friends with them instead of adults hired to be in their house.
Oh good. She finally found the weather channel.
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Hold on. Not necessarily. Milo could have DMed or called her and told her she better have the egg hunt today!!
Robert busted her butt good on that, exposing that she hired someone to hide the eggs, and then didn't even stay outside to watch the kids. She is beneath contempt!
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Maybe that's why she didn't say anything this year, whining about how many eggs she had to fill. She knew she was busted and didn't want to open that whole can of worms again.
The one thing we have not seen on Easter Sunday are the kids dressed up in cute outfits and go to church.
Well, I see that Milo will be buying the book for every person in her life.
From B.M.'s website:
I look at it this way...purchase her book...get a ton of healthy/delicious recipes/pictures and support Kate as a stay at home mom at the same time! I'm still stunned that the ex provides no CS for his kids. No financial help to Kate whatsoever...its all on her! So more than just saying we support her...we need to step up...purchase her book...purchase the book as gifts for others and otherwise promote this endeavor for her!
Hold on. Not necessarily. Milo could have DMed or called her and told her she better have the egg hunt today!!
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If she`s still talking to her after the doggy surprise thingy.
Dianne @MeInAtlanta 30s
My thoughts @Kateplusmy8 - Bullies & Haters weren't kind to Jesus either so consider yourself in good company! So proud U R a strong woman!
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Oh. My. Word. Sheeple are crazy. This one is moving up to take Milo's job as Chief Executive Ewe. I can see wool flying in the barnyard.
Do you think Kate actually believes what she writes? I mean, in her bizarre alternate version of reality, is this the way she really sees things or thinks she is? I just read her post on The Stir and couldn't believe she wrote: "Gone are the days of "stressed out mom" syndrome. Now I keep the stress inside and focus on plain old fun! Funny what some age and experience can do to a mom, huh?" WHAT?! The RV trip was less than two years ago and she's transformed into "fun mom" somehow in the less than two years since we saw bitch mom from hell. Is that really how she sees herself or does she know she's lying through her teeth.
Or the ridiculous platitudes she retweets. In her mind, does she really think she lives by their advice.
Now I see Bullyville is tweeting personal info of "haters" and Kate is retweeting it. How do you tweet platitudes and the like, but "out" haters the night before Easter.
She truly leaves me scratching my head. Again, I'd so watch an indepth psychological evaluation of her. Film it Kate! Do it and film it!
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 14m
@Kateplusmy8 Be courteous 2all...intimate w/a few...& make sure they are #TriedAndTrue My motto 4many years! :)
Apparently Milo's motto has failed quite a few times. She's bashed Jon, trashed Robert...hardly being courteous to all.
I'm still stunned that the ex provides no CS for his kids. No financial help to Kate whatsoever...its all on her! So more than just saying we support her...we need to step up
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This is just an absurd mentality. It is not OUR responsibility to support Kate and her family. That is Kate and Jon's responsibility. And since the sheeple believe whatever ridiculous story Kate dreams up, then they believe that Kate voluntarily relieved Jon of child support. Then that's Kate's problem, she didn't have to do that if she couldn't make it work financially. You don't get to say oh poor thing all on her own when Kate claims to have voluntarily put herself in this situation. By the way I guess Kate gives Jon and allowance to support the kids when he's with the kids? Unless she's doing that she can't claim to do it all on her own. I guess I just don't believe in helping or enabling people who are perfectly capable of making their own way without charity.
This is just everything I can't stand about this. No one owes Kate ANYTHING. Take care of your own family, and after that, perhaps some real charities that help people who are really in need.
I was thinking about Kate not responding to questions on twitter, instead telling people to email her the question. Seems like lately she's really been pushing the email/her web site thing.
Think she's doing that so that Bullyville can vet the person for her? Ala the cruise?
This is why there are so many accidents attributed to being on the phone or texting. You really aren't present with those around you when you are doing such things and Kate is not some kind of multi talented exception to the rule. It's just downright tragic eight kids have such a disconnected mother who is addicted to twitter.
@msgoody2shoes21: @MiloandJack @Kateplusmy8 Why the heck are haters saying Kate's cookbook has no sales when the book doesn't go on sale until Sept? #Dummies
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The above was tweeted by one of the main sheeple. I guess she doesn't quite understand the concept of pre sales and I guess she hasn't purchased her copy yet. Who is the #dummy here?
Mel said... 140
''Think she's doing that so that Bullyville can vet the person for her? Ala the cruise''
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You may be right, since she's re-tweeted Bullyville outing someone. I saw someone on twazzup say that the ''outed'' one is not who they think...that they've outed someone else, someone who isn't a part of all this. I'm still sitting here not believing my eyes....that she re-tweed the 'outing'. She just dug her hole halfway to China and stepped right off the cliff into it!
Oh good grief I can't believe they brought up Jesus!! LOL.
Jesus was a grown man who never claimed to be a victim of bullying or a victim at all, and was always willing to talk calmly and rationally with his "haters" about their differences. Gimme a break.
You know not a lot surprises me about Kate but I am pretty shocked she is stepping into the big bad world of "outings." Only the most fringe people participate in outings or get anything out of it. The vast majority of people think it's vile, nasty and stupid.
Oh. My. Word. Sheeple are crazy. This one is moving up to take Milo's job as Chief Executive Ewe. I can see wool flying in the barnyard.
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Dianne @MeInAtlanta
@MiloandJack @Kateplusmy8 Can we just put a bubble wrap around Kate and shield her forever? The root of bitterness in this 62 yr old - wow!
This one is as nuts as Milo. Oh my gosh. A clone? Are they mutating? Good idea, though...bubble wrap Kate so she can't dig that hole any deeper. Make sure to put extra wrap around her fingers so she stays off Twitter!
This is the one who offered Kate a free all-day spa anywhere she wanted to do. Might be kind of hard to get spa treatments when you're covered with bubble wrap!
I was thinking about Kate not responding to questions on twitter, instead telling people to email her the question. Seems like lately she's really been pushing the email/her web site thing.
Think she's doing that so that Bullyville can vet the person for her? Ala the cruise?
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No doubt about it. There's a method to her madness. She says her DM isn't working. Yeah, right.
I look at it this way...purchase her book...get a ton of healthy/delicious
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LOL, where do they get this stuff from? I guess they can't read. Nothing about the book is advertised as "healthy." If anything it seems to be catering more to comfort food. It's very heavy on starchy foods like spaghetti, meatloaf with a ton of bread crumbs in it, casseroles, bakes, cheese, breads, stuffed. It describes the desserts as "decadent."
There is only recipe in the long list that claims to be "healthy", the egg plant parmesan. If they were all healthy why single out the eggplant as such?
Kate dropped both the healthy and the organic schtick for this one.
This is just an absurd mentality. It is not OUR responsibility to support Kate and her family. That is Kate and Jon's responsibility. And since the sheeple believe whatever ridiculous story Kate dreams up, then they believe that Kate voluntarily relieved Jon of child support. Then that's Kate's problem, she didn't have to do that if she couldn't make it work financially.
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But, admin, she has 150,000 devoted followers and she just loves and adores them. She mentions them quite often. If each of them gave just one dollar to her, she'd have supplemental income. Where are they if they are so devoted and willing to help support Kate and her family?
Jesus was no victim. His suffering was a sacrifice, freely given. His tormenters had nothing on Him.
I apologize to those who do not share my beliefs but I could not let that comment go without rebuttal.
@BullyVille: Hey @xxxxxxxxxxx. aka Xxxxx xxxxxx from Xxxxxxxx, CA. You're a DESPICABLE 62 year old bully, enjoy your 15 minutes of INFAMY. #expectus
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Kate has really lost it. She just retweeted the above bullyville tweet outing someone.
Happy Easter KyPastor glad to see that you're still around.
By the way I want to officially thank everyone who knows about publishing and the book world for weighing in. Whether you know just a little or the whole business backwards and forwards, it's been great and I've learned a lot. I encourage everyone to keep sharing. I also notice that even though there have been a few differences of opinion here and there about how it works, everyone has been very respectful and open.
Amen, KyPastor. Amen.
@BullyVille: Hey @xxxxxxxxxxx. aka Xxxxx xxxxxx from Xxxxxxxx, CA. You're a DESPICABLE 62 year old bully, enjoy your 15 minutes of INFAMY. #expectus
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Kate has really lost it. She just retweeted the above bullyville tweet outing someone.
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I hope that someone is taking shots of those retweets in case she decides to delete it. #expectus is a threat.
NJGal51 said... 157
''Kate has really lost it. She just retweeted the above bullyville tweet outing someone''
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I'm actually hoping that KK is drunk, and that she's lied about having the children. If she's not drunk, and really does have the children, I am SO anxious about their physical safety! I know that sounds really melodramatic, but I'm serious!
Someone pointed out to me via email In the People article, it says INFAMOUS reality mom, not FAMOUS reality mom.
Jesus was no victim. His suffering was a sacrifice, freely given. His tormenters had nothing on Him.
I apologize to those who do not share my beliefs but I could not let that comment go without rebuttal.
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Greetings, KY! Nice to see you here, and wishes for a blessed holiday! The person who tweeted about Jesus also wants to bubble wrap Kate to protect her, so that kind of tells you right there that her thinking is more than just a little bit "off."
What website did #121 (upthread) get the dismal book pre-order stats from?
She also retweeted this:
Bullyville @BullyVille 1h
.@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [name of the person outed]. The infamy you're about to experience is your KARMA for being such a dispicable BULLY. CC:@YourAnonNews
Someone needs to sit her down and tell her what the consequences of this could be. If she refuses to listen, then so be it. At least she will have been told.
Kate has tweeted a total of 9 times today, 7 of which were retweets. She tweeted about the egg hunt, then responded to a tweet from Emily about her prom. She also retweeted about The Bible, and a person asking for a retweet for a friend who has cancer. She also retweeted 2 platitudes, the last of which was:
Notebook of Love @Notebook 3h
You shouldn't care about how others think of you. Stay the way you are, no matter how much others try bring you down.
She tweets about how you shouldn't care about what others things of you, but then her next 3 tweets were about the outing.
With those 3 retweets, she's acting like a giddy school girl.
AND she has not tweeted anything about the book since yesterday afternoon.
I wonder after Robert's appearance last night, she got on the phone with her lawyers and was told there's no way she can stop Robert's book, and she is now on the path to revenge.
As I said before-what does she hope to accomplish by these "outings"? That tweeter is still tweeting, so her goal of intimidation apparently is not working.
I really think she has lost it or is more stupid than anyone could have imagined her to be.
Rearranging the Deck Chairs on the Titanic said... 165
What website did #121 (upthread) get the dismal book pre-order stats from?
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This is the website. I'm not sure if it's totally accurate, but they base the number of sales on the changes in Amazon's rank of the book. It also only shows sales from yesterday forward, so there may have been sales from Thursday that aren't included.
http://www.novelrank.com/asin/0757317642
Kate is a twit said... 167
''I wonder after Robert's appearance last night, she got on the phone with her lawyers and was told there's no way she can stop Robert's book, and she is now on the path to revenge.
As I said before-what does she hope to accomplish by these "outings"? That tweeter is still tweeting, so her goal of intimidation apparently is not working.
I really think she has lost it or is more stupid than anyone could have imagined her to be.''
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It is obvious that she is on a rampage, but why is she re-tweeting the outings? Maybe the tweeter she thinks was outed isn't the person named in the outing, and that is why the tweeter is not intimidated? Or maybe once you're outed, there is no reason to go away...the 'worst' would already be done?
I don't know what on earth is going on in KK's mind....and I don't think that any 'normal' person would ever be able to figure out what she thinks she's doing! I really really hope that she's just stupid, and not the things that I'm concerned about!
I think we are witnessing the degeneration of Kate's mind - what's left of it anyway. We've shared thoughts in the past on what would happen as Kate finds more and more avenues closing to her in her efforts to stay a d-list celebrity. Because of her mental shortcomings, she really believes herself to be a star, and deserving of her own tv show. So when each new effort is met with disinterest, it probably doesn't compute. I envision fuses shorting out in her brain.
There is no way she can mentally accept that she will never have a television show again. The closest was that one episode of CWS - and that was really as a foil to Kendra Wilkerson. Her latest attempt is this pathetic cookbook. We can quibble over whether it is self-published or not - but basically it's a poorly done cookbook that has apparently garnered only 7 pre-orders. If only Kate hadn't driven away every single family member and past friend, maybe those pre-orders would have added up to an even dozen.
I see even her "head of security" has moved on - now Nield is working with the Roloff family? (Or another little people family?). Ouch.
Some believe Kate has great financial sense. But let's be realistic - she has shown us she has extremely poor judgment, can only think in circles, and is irrationally driven to get back on television. She will spend any amount if she thinks she can accomplish that goal. It's like a gambler who has run out of luck. They hit one big strike - it was a huge pay off. For awhile, they're living high on the hog. But that casino beckons - the next big pay off is right around the corner. Except they lose. Oh well, still plenty of money. Gamble again. Lose again. Until it's all gone. And that's what will happen to Kate Krieder. She will not live a mediocre life and make that money last. She will spend every last dime on plastic surgery, expensive clothes, cars, upkeep on that big home, and then she'll drain the children's trust accounts too, until all is gone.
If any of those children want to go to college, they will have to rely on scholarships and financial aid. Personally, I think those children will be lucky just to escape their crazy lunatic mother. I am rooting for them.
By Kate publicly joining in the outing of people's real identities on Twitter, she is making herself a pariah in the world of tv entertainment. TV personalities who want to continue on television work hard to present an approachable, likable public image. For whatever reason floating around in Kate's degenerating mind, she's going for the exact opposite. To make herself ever more unlikeable. I think Jon ought to demand that the kids get a percentage of every cookbook sale, since they are pictured and featured so heavily.
Remona-the thing is that Kate's just isn't thinking, and that scares me. What if the person named in the "outing" isn't who Bullyville says they are. What if they are naming some innocent person who has no idea who Kate or even bullyville are?
What proof does Kate has that the name is the correct identity of the tweeter? Because Bullyville says so? Did she even think for one second that she could be getting herself into a lot of trouble and setting herself up to be sued for libel. And in doing so, she's also bringing her diehard fans like Milo and others into the fray.
She is either totally and completely stupid, or she is more diabolical than we ever thought.
I've got a platitude for Kate:
“Choose your battles wisely. After all, life isn't measured by how many times you stood up to fight. It's not winning battles that makes you happy, but it's how many times you turned away and chose to look into a better direction. Life is too short to spend it on warring. Fight only the most, most, most important ones, let the rest go.” ― C. JoyBell C.
Kate is a twit said... 171
''......She is either totally and completely stupid, or she is more diabolical than we ever thought''
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I honestly don't think that she is smart enough to be diabolical. I fear we are witnessing her have some sort of mental breakdown. (In the 'olden days' what we called a nervous breakdown.) I'm still hoping for drunk or stupid.
Just dropping by to wish you all a very happy,
and blessed Easter.
Love,
Pink
This tweet is from one of the people who were attacking the haters last night. How do they know that bullyville is a family friend of Kate's. Because bullyville says so?
Wraith @wr4i7h_ 1h
@CassandraRules bullyville is a family friend of kate's. she came to him asking for help. i took notice once they started pestering #YAN.
This is another one who was defending Kate.
Ann Strode @IndianaAnny 1h
@CassandraRules @wr4i7h_ @theprie57 I think ppl take it to heart bcuz she's a single mom (hard job)of 8 & a personal friend of Bullyville.
It seems both Kate and Bullyville have pulled the wool over so many people's eyes that they'll believe anything.
I still don't see this ending well-especially after Kate's retweet tonight.
So what if Bullyville is a friend? Irrelevant. I grew up with a friend who is now a druggie and even served a little jail time. I feel sorry for him and his family is getting him help, but right now he's not in a place where it would be productive to be around him. If he asked me to do something that didn't feel right I wouldn't. This is normal adult behavior, assess the situation and use GOOD JUDGEMENT. Good Lord.
Here's the thing, as soon as this Bullyville thing got out of control she should have either quietly left, or if she must make a statement that she deeply regrets if anyone got the wrong idea when she said she didn't support bullying and she's sorry if it caused anyone to be hurt and that in the interest of a truce she is cutting ties with Bullyville. It's really sad to see someone with no more "handlers" around.
Wraith @wr4i7h_ 1h
@CassandraRules bullyville is a family friend of kate's. she came to him asking for help. i took notice once they started pestering #YAN.
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If bullyville were a family friend of mine, I certainly wouldn't admit it and would sever ties with that "family friend" immediately. Maybe he's the black sheep of the family! :)
Anderson isnt liking this whole cheaterville...bullyville stuff...
RonnieandMaggie said... 139
[Milo]
No financial help to Kate whatsoever...its all on her! So more than just saying we support her...we need to step up...purchase her book...purchase the book as gifts for others and otherwise promote this endeavor for her!
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Whaaaat? Eh?
Milo?
Three words: Kate is rich!
Three more words: Get a grip!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4FLMprAwRk
forgot the link to a clip from Anderson's show about cheaterville
I still am shaking my head over that comment. On what planet do you owe some kind of obligation to help out a filthy rich celebrity?
On paper, Kate has a "charmed" life. She made more money than most people will ever see in a lifetime. It's her problem if she really needs the sale from this book. No one owes her anything.
Moreover, you should buy a book because you like the book, not because the author needs to put food on the table. There is government assistance and charities for those struggling. I wouldn't want anyone buying any creative work of mine just because of me, unless they were genuinely interested in it.
Anderson has a brain, and good judgment. He's cool headed, logical, rational, and normal. Meanwhile he has a sense of humor. And this is why I have picked him to be my boyfriend.
Pink, admin, kypastor, everyone, have a Happy Easter! Of you don't celebrate that, then happy spring!
Millicent, your analysis strikes me as very accurate.
I'm beginning to wonder just how much Milo supports Kate, not just in words but also monetarily-wise. Maybe that's why Kate won't tell her to stop with her asinine tweets and over the top prattling.
I'm also beginning to believe more and more that it was Milo who supplied the beach house last year.
Don't make me come over there.
One very stupid sheep says "the haters even got Anderson Cooper to talk about Kate" and my response to that is that if I could "get" anderson Cooper to do anything, talking about Kate is way way WAY down on my list. I'd get him to let me move in with him. ;)
Wraith @wr4i7h_ 1h
@CassandraRules bullyville is a family friend of kate's. she came to him asking for help. i took notice once they started pestering #YAN.
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Pffft. What family might that be? No, the only reason Kate has aligned herself with bullyville is because water seeks its own level. If she is really the high-road taker she claims she is, she would not fallen in with bullyville in the first place.
Yeah Milo you can put Kate in a bubble with the broom stick and the little dog to. Ha
RonnieandMaggie said... 139
Well, I see that Milo will be buying the book for every person in her life.
From B.M.'s website:
I look at it this way...purchase her book...get a ton of healthy/delicious recipes/pictures and support Kate as a stay at home mom at the same time! I'm still stunned that the ex provides no CS for his kids. No financial help to Kate whatsoever...its all on her! So more than just saying we support her...we need to step up...purchase her book...purchase the book as gifts for others and otherwise promote this endeavor for her!
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OMG someone plz tell this person that it's not april fools day yet.
Here's a funny video:
The Ridiculist
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/anderson-cooper-kate-gosselin-video-231924
The vast majority of people think it's vile, nasty and stupid.
Where on earth do you get your info? Really? Do you have ANY idea how big Anonymous is and how QUICKLY they can organize a HUGE group of people to protest??
Are you an expert on EVERY little thing? Just stop.
. I think Jon ought to demand that the kids get a percentage of every cookbook sale, since they are pictured and featured so heavily.
Sadly, I don't think cares even half as much as some of us do. First the filming of the kids for that silly CWS show with seemingly no repercussion from Jon and now this picture book. Still...silence from Jon. If he was even trying in court, wouldn't someone have sniffed that out?
Anderson Cooper is HARDLY 'normal' admin. He's exceptional in every single way. Brains, beauty AND personality.
Where on earth do you get your info? Really? Do you have ANY idea how big Anonymous is and how QUICKLY they can organize a HUGE group of people to protest??
Are you an expert on EVERY little thing? Just stop.
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I wasn't talking about the GROUP Anonymous, I was talking about "outings" in Kate land. Most comments in "Kate land" have nothing to do with trying to do such things. If you're trying to say huge numbers who follows this saga are interested in such things, then we'll have to agree to disagree--that's not my experience. My experience is it's fringe groups, and while they may be very focal, I don't think most are participating, most people on both sides have said it's not warranted. The "you think you're an expert on everything" whining is getting really, really old and ridiculous. This has nothing to do with being an expert and was just my personal observations from following this saga for years. You are free to disagree and offer up some useful information but I don't whine that you think YOU'RE an expert because you know about Anonymous. Everyone is welcome to share their experiences here. Just look at our publishing discussion, it was very informative and no one was bellyaching about experts. Give it a rest.
Anderson Cooper is HARDLY 'normal' admin. He's exceptional in every single way. Brains, beauty AND personality.
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Normal as in mentally stable. :)
Exception yes--most of all the beauty!
A Pink Straight Jacket For Kate said... 172
Just dropping by to wish you all a very happy,
and blessed Easter.
Love,
Pink
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Happy Easter to you too and to all the other posters here.
" Easter is the one time that it is perfectly safe to put all your eggs in one basket."
The only thing that gets old here is you spouting off that you "know a gal who has this", have a relative "that has that" and personally have had so many 'experiences' that happen to coincide with ALL the things discussed here.
You even know a druggie. *slow hand clap* You're only impressing yourself.
I'm sorry. This seems to really have upset you. Most of the posters here share things like that all the time, I like that we share, it's just sort of the vibe that developed here and I don't think it's going to change anytime soon. Maybe there's other blogs you'd like better that are less sharing and more just straight facts.
See? You're an embarassment even to yourself.
Let's see, in the last, say 24 hours, you've told us of your house fire, your adopting of your own dog, you know a mentally unstable druggie, you've been to Egypt and the people there were (I can't remember because it was so stupid)...
shall I go on? People laugh at you because you really think you're something, don't you? Ask the Facebook group. You'd die if you knew what they really thought about you. LOL
O.b.n.o.x.i.o.u.s. (but quite entertaining so thanks for the giggles!)
It was NJ who had the house fire, I don't think I've mentioned Egypt in forever, I never said the young man I know who has a drug problem is "mentally unstable" and it was Milo who adopted a dog, I'm just fostering. :) Actually I know all about what goes on in the FB group I was told. Free speech, it's okay.
You're right I'm probably over sharing. In seriousness, you've made me think about it. Maybe it shouldn't be so anecdotal here it should be more factual. Thanks.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 197
You're right I'm probably over sharing. In seriousness, you've made me think about it. Maybe it shouldn't be so anecdotal here it should be more factual. Thanks.
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I like the anecdotes. From everyone. That's a big part of what makes this blog fun. For me anyway.
Admin - you have an amazing amount of patience with rude posters who come here with only one goal - to bash you and put you down. Kudos to you for allowing their posts through. Given the opportunity to do the same, I have a feeling these anonymous whiners would not do the same. Because they cannot defend Kate, they instead try to attack those who point out Kate's long list of short comings.
NJGal51 said... 177
Kate Gosselin's Love Is in the Mix: Making Meals into Memories with 108+ Family-Friendly Recipes, Tips, and Traditions [Hardcover]
Kate Gosselin (Author)
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Hmmmmmmmmmm, the book has only been on sale since Wednesday and the price has already been reduced from $22.95 to $11.22. This is the cut and paste from Amazon just now. I guess the price was a little high for Kate's demographic.
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Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said... 23
What??? LOLOLOL Unbelievable!
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Whether Kate is traditionally published or self-published (through HCI), her royalty per book drops to almost half on books sold at this price. Royalty is paid on sales price, not cover price.
AuntieAnn said... 184
Wraith @wr4i7h_ 1h
@CassandraRules bullyville is a family friend of kate's. she came to him asking for help. i took notice once they started pestering #YAN.
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Pffft. What family might that be? No, the only reason Kate has aligned herself with bullyville is because water seeks its own level. If she is really the high-road taker she claims she is, she would not fallen in with bullyville in the first place.
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Touché, AuntieAnn! Well said.
I know why Kate's unraveling - there's a full moon. It's a pretty common opinion among mental health professionals that there is a much higher incidence of irrational thinking and unacceptable behavior among the mentally and emotionally ill population during this part of the cycle. Kate seems to be fitting into this profile to a T.
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