Sunday, April 7, 2013

'The People vs. Larry Flynt': Was Falwell bullied and deserved damages for emotional distress, or was it just free speech about a public figure?

'Free speech,' said the Supreme Court in 1988.

What if you said a very famous celebrity likes to sleep with goats? What if you said that celebrity loves hard liquor and is always intoxicated in public? What if you said his first sexual experience was with his own mother?



In 1983, Larry Flynt said all that and more about Jerry Falwell in his magazine Hustler. Falwell sued him for 50 million dollars. What followed was one of the greatest victories for free speech, specifically parodies and criticism involving public figures, ever to come down from the Supreme Court. The decision was unanimous. Said the court, in part:
"Justice Frankfurter put it succinctly in Baumgartner v. United States, 322 U. S. 665, 673-674 (1944), when he said that "[o]ne of the prerogatives of American citizenship is the right to criticize public men and measures." Such criticism, inevitably, will not always be reasoned or moderate; public figures as well as public officials will be subject to "vehement, caustic, and sometimes unpleasantly sharp attacks," New York Times, supra, at 270. " . . .

. . .In the world of debate about public affairs, many things done with motives that are less than admirable are protected by the First Amendment. In Garrison v. Louisiana, 379 U. S. 64 (1964), we held that even when a speaker or writer is motivated by hatred or ill will his expression was protected by the First Amendment: Thus while such a bad motive may be deemed controlling for purposes of tort liability in other areas of the law, we think the First Amendment prohibits such a result in the area of public debate about public figures.
"Debate on public issues will not be uninhibited if the speaker must run the risk that it will be proved in court that he spoke out of hatred; even if he did speak out of hatred, utterances honestly believed contribute to the free interchange of ideas and the ascertainment of truth." Id., at 73."

Falwell and Flynt later became good friends, visiting each other frequently, going on speaking engagements together, and exchanging Christmas cards. In 1998, Flynt apologized for the ad. Falwell leaped to his feet and shook Flynt's hand.

This Oscar-nominated film from 1996 details Falwell's early life through the famous court case and his near assassination. It can be viewed for free and legally from Crackle.com on Youtube.

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Jennifer said...

"She'll only continue to believe in them if they send coupons and/or gift cards."

Don't forget--these shout-outs aren't just an opportunity to grift free stuff; they open the door to potential endorsement deals (at least in Kate's mind).

Vanessa said...

This is from another blog I follow...
"There is that word "projection" again. When we come to understand narcissism we find that narcissists are masters at projection. They take the dark qualities within themselves and project them onto those who love them. But we don't often think about our own projections. We just as easily project our goodness upon the narcissist in our lives and then we fall in love with the good qualities in ourselves projected upon the other. We see the narcissist (scorpion) as someone who is empathetic, caring, loving, concerned, compassionate and honest, because this is who we are. The narcissist gladly owns our projections and gives us his dirt. We get accused of being the very thing we eventually come to see in him.
I remember being accused of being selfish, greedy, uncommitted, angry, bi-polar and a host of other things that left me questioning whether or not this was really true. The most difficult thing was that he really seemed to believe it. He believed he was the pure one and I was the one poisoning his reality with my impurities. But once the veil was lifted and I could see through the narcissistic Web of Illusion I could see that who he accused me of being was never the truth about me."
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Replace "she" for "he", what do you get?
Why is she so damn adamant about trying to keep Jon away from his kid, his own flesh and blood? Hmmm

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Only if they were discarded (then no longer Kate's property) would they belong to Robert.


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Ehh, I don't think so. Just because I find a book in the garbage doesn't mean I then have the right to copy that book word for word and print it on this blog because it's "mine" now, I found it. Copyright is still copyright wherever the book is and whoever owns it. Remember that Bradley Cooper movie The Words? He finds a book and publishes it as his own--not okay.

Robert owns the discs, of that part I agree. Just like I would own that book if I found it. But ownership of property versus copyright is two different things.

I think this was a wild goose chase her lawyers let her do because it wasn't worth arguing with her about how irrelevant it all was. This is more common than you think, clients running down irrelevant rabbit holes.

A Pink Straight Jacket For Kate said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 185


I think it interesting that Kate's plan in the emails to Hailey is that after they get this stuff about Jon out there, they will come off as strong women fighting a wrong.

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Me too and I think it speaks to her level of delusion. Other than a few sheeple who support anything she does, most people saw that whole scheme as petty, vindictive, and just plain nasty. They were a joke, those two. People shook their heads and compared it to a bad soap opera. People told her to go get a job at 10:30 on a Wednesday not call digging up old girlfriends to get back at Jon "work."

And yet she thought it was going to be some grand vindication as trumpets play and angels sing. In her twisted mind, it was.

She just can't grasp that no matter how right she may be, it doesn't make it any less petty, vindictive and nasty.

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All Kate needs- is a cape, leotard and tights.
I'll leave it to you to decide with letter should go on her chest.

Marie said...

I just can't get over her chutzpah. If I had done the things Kate has done, I wouldn't show my face in public or on any social media. I would be ashamed. She has no shame. She goes right back on Twitter and asks like SHE is the victim in all this. Like she didn't cause any of it, it just happened TO her. It just amazes me.

Marie

Vanessa said...

My opinion is Hailey made them up like she did the notes she provided Radar Online. Hailey didn't expect to have to testify under oath about it and perjure herself and she panicked and backed out.
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I'm going with that theory. I'm thinking her parents FLIPPED when they got wind of this (better late than never, I'm thinking she's a very induldged little girl) and money talks.

A Pink Straight Jacket For Kate said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 183
She always foreshadows.


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Yes. What she is, is calculated.

I'm not sure she grasps how obnoxious she is. It is hard to take anything she says seriously because it always seems so calculated. She was trying to ease us into her newest midlife crisis poor me I deserve it purchase by making up some convoluted story about how her sports car died. The bulk of what she says on Twitter is in some vague response to some other criticism, or trying to discredit Jon, or her haters, or someone. It's weird and annoying. Can't she just speak like a normal person and not always have an ulterior motive?

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[excerpt]
Can't she just speak like a normal person and not always have an ulterior motive?

Apparently, no.

Vanessa said...

"which may lead her (probably already has) to isolate the kids and cut them off from the world because they are not putting out the picture she wants them to. Sick."
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Exactly! Classis abuser tactics, isolate the victim/victims. Just like she did with Jon.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Hailey is 26 years old and still being supported by Mommy and Daddy. She can get a job obviously, she got a gig on Girls. Maybe it was good this happened so Mommy and Daddy finally had a good reason to cut her off. The trophy kids generation scares me.

Anonymous said...

Of course she believes in Chipotle - beans and cheese, beans and cheese, YAY beans and cheese.

Snickdog said...

Yes but Bradley Cooper published that book as his own writing.

Robert is being kind enough to give Kate full credit for her writings.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

LOL how kind of Robert. Full credit doesn't matter. I can't publish a book on this blog and say but here I said that Steven King wrote it I gave credit! Not allowed.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

All Robert would have had to do was post relevant small excerpts of things to make a point. Then he probably would have slid in very nicely under Fair Use. There's a lot of leeway when you're using the material as part of criticizing but you still can't publish entire documents word for word.

For instance the Lane contract, why not just publish the part about how much money they made for how little work and how it was around the exact same time they were grifting for churches? The rest was irrelevant. That was the main point of that.

rainbowsandunicorns said...

Hailey is 26 years old and still being supported by Mommy and Daddy.

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Just a question. How is this known? Was there something in her e-mails that revealed that her parents are still supporting her financially?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Rainbows, yes Hailey said if she does this her parents were going to cut her off financially I believe.

Vanessa said...

Of course she believes in Chipotle - beans and cheese, beans and cheese, YAY beans and cheese.
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HAHA,good one, YAY!

Anonymous said...

Admin., I meant that Robert owns the disc (he found them discarded) but because he credited Kate as the author it was legal for him to publish them in his book?

In your example, the book is yours because you found it but it would only be legal to copy the book to this blog ONLY if you gave the name of the author of the book? Am I understanding you correctly?

If the answer is yes, then do you agree that the reason Kate is going to an intellectual property attorney is because she is claiming with fake text messages that Jon and Robert stole her "intellectual properties" (journals and emails) and therefore Robert had no legal right to publish it because it was stolen goods.

Leslie

westcoastie said...

why the hell would Kate say to Hailey's mom:

"my kids... I need to get my kids away from Jon".
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Adding my .02:

IF this was an actual exchange between cuntessa and Hailey's mom...I wonder if it has to do with the kid's behavior, either before or after the visits?

Think about it: Mom's house=prison
Dad's house=home

Especially the twins. We saw them trying to walk into the kitchen on CWS, alas, it was not "scheduled" so they were banished, quite succinctly. As much as I am certain those girls love their mother, they are old enough to know the two homes are like night and day.

If kate can't control those kids, what's she left with?

Upstater said...

KK is so grifting for Chipotle. Abby Wambach, the Womens soccer star, has tweeted a picture of her Chipotle's 'gold card' which gives her free burritos for life. Obviously someone of Abby's stature deserves it. KK is probably after that card....

Oh, and, Hailey was never on Girls. It was reported she signed up for a reality show based on the HBO series. I believe Lena Dunham, creator of Girls, has stated that she has no affiliation with the reality show.

Ingrid said...

TLC stinks said... 167

According to RWA, Kate bought a car from a dealer in Garnet Valley, PA. This person must have figured that out from the tweet by the girl excited her dad sold Kate a car. NOT AUTHENTIC....get it, The Stir?
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I did some sleuthing last night before RWA posted where they thought the car was bought. I think the car was bought at a Garnet VW--W. Chester PA or Garnet Ford--Chadds Ford, PA dealer due to the last name of the girl who tweeted and there are two men with same last name who own/manage those dealerships. Her name had a little uniqueness to the spelling. Plus those 2 dealers are closer to Kate than Garnet Valley.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Admin., I meant that Robert owns the disc (he found them discarded) but because he credited Kate as the author it was legal for him to publish them in his book?
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No it's not legal to publish someone else's work whether you stole it or found it in the trash or Jon gave it to you. How you got it is not the issue. Copyrighted work is copyrighted work.

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In your example, the book is yours because you found it but it would only be legal to copy the book to this blog ONLY if you gave the name of the author of the book? Am I understanding you correctly?
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No, it would not be okay even if I credited the author. Copyright is copyright.
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do you agree that the reason Kate is going to an intellectual property attorney is because she is claiming with fake text messages that Jon and Robert stole her "intellectual properties" (journals and emails) and therefore Robert had no legal right to publish it because it was stolen goods.
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I agree she is going to an IP attorney because of the copyright issue, however whether it was stolen or not has nothing to do with whether it was her IP. That's why I'm saying this thing about who stole what is a rabbit hole her attorneys are letting her go down that bears very little consequences to the greater point which is that this was her IP published without her permission. It is irrelevant HOW it got to be published, the only relevant point is whether she gave permission. And she can easily go on the stand and say no I did not give my permission, DONE, and I doubt anyone would in good faith dispute that contention.

Stealing is a completely separate issue, that's a criminal matter that she should have called the police over. However Kate doesn't get that apparently.

JoyinVirginia said...

Heather,
I never trusted that Colonel Mustard!
That Miss Scarlett is very suspicious too!
And what EXACTLY is Professor Plum a professor OF???

Hey, this is more fun than following boring and convoluted Ms Kreider.

Ingrid said...

A Pink Straight Jacket For Kate said... 176
This is really rubbing me the wrong way-
why the hell would Kate say to Hailey's mom:
"my kids... I need to get my kids away from Jon".
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In order to be able to move out of PA? But she is making it out that he is a bad dad to get the help.

A Pink Straight Jacket For Kate said...

Not a sound from Kate today.

Could she be working on Act II of
defamating Jon & Robert?

Next up: Lohan's baby momma,
Kate whatshername...

Mel said...

I feel sorry for the girl who tweeted about Kate buying a car from her dad.
She (and probably the dad either) had NO idea of the sh*t storm that one little tweet is going to buy them.

rainbowsandunicorns said...

This "I believe in Chipotle" thing. Why not just sent them a private e-mail or call the manager and tell them how much you enjoy the restaurant?

Why put it out there on Twitter? Obvious. So she can get a possible endorsement gig, PLUS the kids' birthdays are coming up. Gift cards. If she thanked them in private, nobody would know that "grift" cards would be welcomed.

She's so transparent.

Snickdog said...

Admin, I'm sorry if this has been asked and answered, but I have a question...

The contracts and the emails that Robert put in his book--those are under copyright and therefore he should not have published them, correct? Or at the very least, he should have only published small bits (and only once--his book seems to duplicate tons of things)

But her journals--are those under copyright law?

Vanessa said...

I feel sorry for the girl who tweeted about Kate buying a car from her dad.
She (and probably the dad either) had NO idea of the sh*t storm that one little tweet is going to buy them.
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I bet you're right Mel. I'm guessing she's fielding some nasty tweets from the vulgar haters as we speak. Khate just better NOT have been given a better deal than someone just walking in off the street.

Just Down The Road said...

I think the car was bought at a Garnet VW--W. Chester PA or Garnet Ford--Chadds Ford, PA dealer due to the last name of the girl who tweeted and there are two men with same last name who own/manage those dealerships.

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What kind of car is this, and why would she drive an hour to West Chester or Chadds Ford to buy a car when there is a plethora of car dealerships in Reading?

Then again, why does she do anything that she does?

gabby2 said...

Worth repeating:

mamaK said... 22


The problem is we DO know what went on in that home. Kate made sure of that with two years of television. Kate WANTED people to come into their home and see how they were managing with those kids because people would stare at them while they were out. (At least that is what she said).
Even if you just take her behavior from the show alone, and set aside the journals and the believed abuse, it still is pretty bad. Kate's behavior seen on the show shows a detatched mom, someone with an anger management problem, a lack of self awareness, and seriously flawed judgement. Kate on the show often showed no respect, no thoughtfulness, no consideration for other people or for their feelings. She showed us all that she is not a nurturer or grateful for the opportunities and experiences that she has had. And then you mix in the lies and falsehoods and I anyway am left with a bad taste in my mouth. (Thus, why we need the chocolate!)
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Exactly.

And frankly, I can't wait for the real CatfishMilo and Stevie Bodyguard story to come out....and it will eventually.

chefsummer #Leh said...

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 2h
@Kateplusmy8 At age12 girls acquire a poise/ability2handle difficult situations which a man, if he is lucky, manages 2achieve N his 70's! :)

AuntieAnn said...

A Pink Straight Jacket For Kate said... 175
I wish that Kate would use her intelligence (albeit evil intelligence) towards good.
The schemes she cooked/cooks up in her head always backfire.
It doesn't matter that she dreams the impossible dream. Any venture will fail because of her twisted mind.
Let's face it, she's her own worst enemy.

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She needs to face it too. If she wants to be successful at anything, she's going to have to take a scrutinizing evaluation of herself. She needs to stop thinking she's all that and a bag of chips. The trouble is her narcissism won't allow it.

Even if she backed away from this neverending quest for fame and invested her time and money in a spa (shutup it's hypothetical) in Reading, because it's something she really likes and might know something about, who could work for her? She can't keep a steady nanny in her own home because she's too miserable. Her reputation precedes her now wherever she goes. She's the Leona Helmsley of Berks County.

Dmasy said...

Rattling around in Kate's head:

"Give me...give me...give me."

"Don't judge me."

"Dosen't my long, golden hair look beautiful blowing in the wind when I put the top down on my new sports car?"

chefsummer #Leh said...

So I'm guessing that KK is only going to eat off Chipotle organic menu (snark).

AuntieAnn said...

Dmasy said... 34

Rattling around in Kate's head:

"Give me...give me...give me."

"Don't judge me."

"Dosen't my long, golden hair look beautiful blowing in the wind when I put the top down on my new sports car?"
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Nope. It looks exactly the same as it did when you were flying on your broom, Kate.

Mel said...

Someone who tweeted Kate last night, further back on their timeline was something about being "addicted to Chipotle."
And some of *that* person's followers further back were saying the same phrase, addicted to Chipotle's.

Hmmmm...are we seeing a pattern here? Someone must have told her to use that phrase for better grifting opportunities.

Is this similar to how the Gosselin family is "addicted to giving back?" (As in, never to be heard of again?)

Silimom said...

How funny - the Garnet VW dealership has a used Audi for sale though it's not a TT. But the TT seems really similar exterior wise to the A5.

Could Kate be trading in her current Audi to buy a Fiat? A new fiat runs $19,000 up to $27,000.

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Lynne In RI said...

Regarding copyright...

Naughty Rob posted an article about Robert receiving death threats from Kate's fans, but there is no mention that the information in this article comes directly from Robert's blog, and a part of it is used word for word (in quotes). He writes:

"Many, many Kate Gosselin supporters have emailed and Tweeted me death threats as well as calling me pedophile, stalker, child molester and every other vile name in the book,” Hoffman tells Naughty But Nice Rob.

This is a direct quote from Robert's blog, as well as the long paragraph that follows. It sounds here like Robert gave an interview to Naughty, when, in fact, it's just a reprint of what was on Robert's blog.

Shouldn't he have given credit to Robert's blog for this information?

http://naughtybutnicerob.com/kate-gosselin-fans-accused-of-making-death-threats/

Ingrid said...

Just Down The Road said... 30
What kind of car is this, and why would she drive an hour to West Chester or Chadds Ford to buy a car when there is a plethora of car dealerships in Reading?
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Maybe it was near where her car was towed to and they started working on getting her business when they told her what was wrong? IF anything was wrong with the Audi. Or to try and keep it hush hush. Just guessing.

Call Me Crazy said...

why the hell would Kate say to Hailey's mom:

"my kids... I need to get my kids away from Jon".

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I don't think Kate saying this had anything at all to do with her believing she has a grand mission to "protect" her children. I think it was merely a devious ploy to get Hailey's mom to THINK the kids are somehow in danger from Jon so she would agree to help Kate.

Millicent said...

chefsummer said... 187
My mom told me once that a mother can be jealous of their children.
And that a father could be jealous of their children.
I think KK is extremely jealous of her children love for Jon.
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Chef - I believe this too, in the sense that Kate wants all focus to be on her, and that includes her children's focus. You know how she is always twittering about how they ask her how her day was, beg her to date and remarry, screech with excitement when she serves them glop, and so forth. In Kate's world, those children have no other concern except fascination with "mom" and what makes "mom" happy.

To see them going off to see their father, the barely hidden excitement in their eyes, and then probably the glumness when they return - must drive her crazier than she already is.

foxy said...

Speaking of Where's Waldo, has anyone heard from Ted Gibson, Jason, Steve, Deanna, Kendra, or anyone of her BFF's?

Ex Nurse said...

Admin--
If Jon can maintain his silence for another week, I think that you should have a halo above his head on the masthead. Seriously....

Re some of the other things being discussed:
Hailey is actually the one who stands to benefit the most from being in the news. Talk about art imitating life: The reality show is based on "Girls", in that it is about 4 twenty somethings trying to make it in NY. The main character is always lying and trying to insert herself into the surrounding drama--she would have faked those emails and then tried to back-pedal all over the place without ever admitting she lied. Also, the first few episodes had hilarious scenes of her parents trying to push her to stand on her feet and threatened to cut of her support. Glassman was the first person cast, and I guess we can all see why. That girl loves her some drama. I have a lot of empathy for the Glassmans--I guess that no good deed goes unpunished.

Once again, Kate proves that she has buckets of money laying around the mansion. Even sadder that her 8 little Roombas are forced to work like they were living in the great Depression.



If any kind of legal action actually happens regarding the texts, they will be verified by forensics. Also, someone earlier said that it looked like there was an SD card--so, if the texts were saved there, it doesn't matter what the carrier's policy is. Phone numbers are completely portable, so it doesn't prove anything if they are now with a seperate carrier.

mamaK said...

Well, tomorrow's blog post will be tons of fun!!! Maybe Kate is hard at work baking 5000 cookies!!!!! Or maybe Kate is super busy managing the pool openers for their bday swim!!!!!!! Oh, and don't forget that she has to go to @ToysRUs for 8! Count them 8! Bday gifts!!!!!!!!! Sooooooooo busy! She will only have time to send 100 tweets a day!
(btw--please send bday gifts to her po box, and any messages through her website, NOT twitter, otherwise she doesn't get to count your visit 10 times.)

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Flip flop huh? I said from day one I thought Haileys emails were authentic but the texts themselves didn't ring true. Besides we have hundreds of ther examples of parental alienation, the shoe sure fits though here. If you disagree fine but stop attacking me personally.

chefsummer #Leh said...

Millicent said... 42

It's just sad that KK can't be glad that the kids love her and Jon.

Ur right it's all bout me me me with KK.

She loves spending time with her kids so much she's on twitter talking about it all the time.

Or

She needs to be filmed (something isn't right bout that)

Lynne In RI said...

Has Kate put anything out on Twitter about buying a new car? I know that Milo was pestering her to find out what was wrong with the Audi...did Kate ever answer her?

Lynne In RI said...

sueb1109 ‏@subeb1109 1m

@MiloandJack @Kateplusmy8 @ChipotleTweets gotta love how people always love to twist everything Kate does...it's just ridiculous.

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I think that Kate does a pretty good job of that all by herself.

Lynne In RI said...

colleen campbell ‏@callerbabe 19m
@Kateplusmy8 @my2kittens Could you please give me the names of your books so I can purchase them,Kate?

Can't these people search the internet? Do they know that the books can be found on Amazon? How needy are these fans?

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 1h
@Kateplusmy8 U have a magnificent day...seize the moments 4success & happiness! Step around/over or thru anything that tries 2deter U! :)

Hasn't she been doing that all along? What a dumb thing for Milo to say, knowing that Kate has a reputation for stepping on anyone who gets in her way.

Fired Up 4 Kate Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 1h
@Kateplusmy8 At age12 girls acquire a poise/ability2handle difficult situations which a man, if he is lucky, manages 2achieve N his 70's! :)

Milo joins Goody in the man-hating, man-bashing arena! There goes the theory that Milo is a guy!

chefsummer #Leh said...

colleen campbell ‏@callerbabe 19m
@Kateplusmy8 @my2kittens Could you please give me the names of your books so I can purchase them,Kate?
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Aw such as loving fan.

A Pink Straight Jacket For Kate said...

xxxxxxxxxx15 hours agovia Twitter for
iPhoneTwitter.
@Kateplusmy8 You should start a clothing and accessory line for multiples. You'd be awesome, no one knows better than you!.

Kateplusmy8
I agree! That would be super fun!

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A clothing/ accessory line for multiples?

I did not know that there was a special need for that.




Snickdog said...

Well, I have twins, and there were so many times I'd wished I could dress them alike, but I had no idea how! Everywhere I went, the outfits were only for sale seperately, not in groups of 2.

I eventually gave up. Why couldn't Kate have blessed us sooner??

lukebandit said...

Been busy as a bee tweeting Chipotle at @ChipotleTweets about kate begging on twitter for Chipotle gift cards. I told them she was a grafter with new car & MILLIONAIRE. I have sent them quite a few.

I also put kates twitter addy on there so she would get a copy of it hopefully. She has me blocked for some reason. hahaha

I also told them that a fan w/no $ wants to send her 6 kids something for their birthday and she asked kate for a good idea. kate said
ITUNE CARDS! The fan said for 6, that she would have to think about it.

How sad. She won't even thank her for it, just like she did Paige. Hopefully, she will change her mind.

Dmasy said...

Snickdog, you poor mom of twins. Whatever will you do without Kate's help.

Lukebandit, you are a real rabble-rouser!

There are some great ladies here.

Anonymous said...

Ha Ha Snickdog. I was thinking the same thing. Maybe she will number her clothes. That way she can just yell a number. She can number them from most favored to least.

I have b/g twins and have never dressed them alike.

Kelly H.

Susantoyota said...

lukebandit said... 54
Been busy as a bee tweeting Chipotle at @ChipotleTweets about kate begging on twitter for Chipotle gift cards. I told them she was a grafter with new car & MILLIONAIRE. I have sent them quite a few.

I also put kates twitter addy on there so she would get a copy of it hopefully. She has me blocked for some reason. hahaha

I also told them that a fan w/no $ wants to send her 6 kids something for their birthday and she asked kate for a good idea. kate said
ITUNE CARDS! The fan said for 6, that she would have to think about it.

How sad. She won't even thank her for it, just like she did Paige. Hopefully, she will change her mind
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Lukebandit, I like how you think!! Althogh you are taking food out of the mouths of Katie's 8!! children.

Any response from Chipotle?

White Organza said...

"@Kateplusmy8 You should start a clothing and accessory line for multiples. You'd be awesome, no one knows better than you!"


Well, well... Color me flabbergasted!!! Great idea! You would have the choice between two options:

a.) The exact same outfit pre-packaged in practical boxes of 2, 3, 4, 5 or 6!!!!!!!!
b.) Different outfits pre-packaged in practical boxes of 2, 3, 4, 5 or 6!!!!!!!!

Considering the sheeple's average IQ, it just might work. Ahhhh.... Marketing!

chefsummer #Leh said...

Bullyville ‏@BullyVille 2h
A skilled bully is usually an expert at manipulation. An effective manipulator must also be a master of deception.
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Wow this sound JUST like KK.

chefsummer #Leh said...

And this...

Bullyville ‏@BullyVille 7h
There are few things in this world more hypocritical than watching a bully cry victim when someone bullies them back.

Could they be talking about KK?

Somewhere In Time said...

I also told them that a fan w/no $ wants to send her 6 kids something for their birthday and she asked kate for a good idea. kate said
ITUNE CARDS! The fan said for 6, that she would have to think about it.

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I was looking back over those Tweets and I don't think that's what happened. Someone asked her what the TWINS want for their birthdays:

Sienna_Star
@Kateplusmy8 @Mydmaxx What do M & C want for they're 13th bday?

Kateplusmy8
@Sienna_Star @Mydmaxx um... iTunes gift cards I'm sure! Lol!
17 hours ago - Twitterrific

I'm sure she would love it if fans sent her iTune cards for any of the kids, but she didn't tell this fan that the six of them want cards.

Call Me Crazy said...

White Organza said... 58

Well, well... Color me flabbergasted!!! Great idea! You would have the choice between two options:

a.) The exact same outfit pre-packaged in practical boxes of 2, 3, 4, 5 or 6!!!!!!!!

b.) Different outfits pre-packaged in practical boxes of 2, 3, 4, 5 or 6!!!!!!!!
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WOW! You may be onto a real money-maker here! I think there would be an ENORMOUS worldwide demand for those outfits pre-packaged in practical boxes of 6!!!!!!!! You would have, like, 180 or so customers! You could make, like, hundreds of dollars!!! ☺

Sheri said...

Kateplusmy8
@Sienna_Star @Mydmaxx um... iTunes gift cards I'm sure! Lol!
17 hours ago - Twitterrific

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It's obvious that Kate learned one thing, and learned it well, how to grift.

Kate never intended to support those kids herself. It was always the plan that they would be famous and be able to get public financial support.

Starting with "love offerings" from churches to book signings to TLC contracts and then to endorsement deals.

IMO, Kate's plan all along was that she would have multiples and the world would support them all.

The very sad truth of it all is that if Kate had merely an ounce of warm kindheartedness, had a modicum of gracious personality, came across as at least humble and appreciative, she really could have made huge bank.

The fact that Kate behaved entitled, rude, elitist and superior she in fact buried herself and all hope of any financially lucrative prospects.

She can try to spin it all she wants but in the end she is her own worst enemy. It's just too bad that 8 kids have to pay for her crimes of ego.

readerlady said...

I agree completely with the posters who think KK's jealous of the kids' love for Jon. I think she is, or was, jealous of his love for the children, too. When they were married and his attention was on the children -- caring for them, loving on them, playing with them -- she would always do something to create drama and bring the attention back to her. She loved the idea of the kids, for the attention they brought to her. When it got down to the nitty gritty of raising them and caring for them, the focus was no longer on her, and that caused problems. Sure, Jon was "helping" her by doing the work of caring for the kids, but he wasn't dancing attendance on her. That just couldn't be allowed. She's too selfish/stupid/narcissistic to grasp that the needs of those babies came before her own.

Didn't KK already have a deal for a clothing line for kids? With Health Tex and Wal Mart? Wasn't it a bust? Her "fan" needs to do some homework.

AuntieAnn said...

Bullyville ‏@BullyVille

There are few things in this world more hypocritical than watching a bully cry victim when someone bullies them back.

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I don't understand this guy's reasoning. He's all big talk about how terrible bullying is, but it's okay to be the bigger bully. That's the definition of a hypocrit.

Ingrid said...

AuntieAnn said... 62
I don't understand this guy's reasoning. He's all big talk about how terrible bullying is, but it's okay to be the bigger bully. That's the definition of a hypocrit.
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So true. I saw below tweet and then read your comment. We aren't the only ones. Others see it too.

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@BullyVille cannot be against bullying on one hand but then bully others with the other hand. And they don't answer questions. WEAK

Warmth Of The Sun said...

I sometimes wonder when the non-fans contact the companies from whom Kate continues to grift if it has the reverse effect. Do they get tired of this and think that these are obsessive haters who continue to get into her business and persist in this?

It would seem that this would generate sympathy for Kate if these places say, "Whoa, I can see why Kate is crying bullying. They just won't leave her alone." Moreover, they can see that Kate still generates interest (even though it's negative), so why not take a chance on her putting a good word out about their company?

Warmth Of The Sun said...

Auntie Ann said..."I don't understand this guy's reasoning."

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There is no reasoning. He is trying to justify his actions, but it's not working. Everyone can see that this is so hypocritical that it's laughable. Why HE can't see it, I have no idea.

Warmth Of The Sun said...


Didn't KK already have a deal for a clothing line for kids? With Health Tex and Wal Mart? Wasn't it a bust? Her "fan" needs to do some homework.

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Yes, but I don't think it was for multiples. I guess the fan (bless her heart) can't figure out that if you have twins or triplets and you want to dress them alike, you just buy two or three of the same kind. If you have a boy and a girl, you coordinate the outfits or buy the same outfits (shorts, slacks) that are unisex.

JoyinVirginia said...

Just read on tmz and Washington Post online site, Buckwild had been canceled by MTV. Shain Gandee the breakout personality died last week from accidental carbon monoxide poisoning.
The mayor is very happy. The production company not so happy. And of course MTV is running an all day marathon of Buckwild this weekend concluding with a special tribute featuring Shain.

A Pink Straight Jacket For Kate said...

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@Kateplusmy8 @xxxxxxxx @xxxxxxxx @xxxxxxxxxxx Ur transparency&honesty was well received&appreciated&ur being rewarded cuz of it!Urock!

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Whaaat???

Could it be possible that there are two Kates in this world?

One is honest, wonderful, charming, sweet, generous, kind, fair, and loving.

While the other one, is the one we are familiar with.

Anonymous said...

You're being rewarded? Sounds like something Jesus would say. Amen.

AMD said...

White Organza said... 58
Well, well... Color me flabbergasted!!! Great idea! You would have the choice between two options:
a.) The exact same outfit pre-packaged in practical boxes of 2, 3, 4, 5 or 6!!!!!!!!
b.) Different outfits pre-packaged in practical boxes of 2, 3, 4, 5 or 6!!!!!!!!
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LOL....and would the business model be based on the multiples all being the same size and same sex?? :) What happens if they're not? (Odds are pretty high)...perhaps it should be for identical multiples only!

njay said...

How funny, as I'm reading the movie Admin. used for the hitler parody is on in the background. Too funny.

NJGal51 said...

Did the free K Cups from Keurig dry up? It looks like she's got another fish on the line.

@icoffee: Don't mess with Kate's coffee! Got it? RT @Kateplusmy8 @icoffee ha ha you know it! I can't function without coffee!:)

I guess she'd better remember the #ad or #grift to keep herself out of trouble!

Terri said...

You know Kate's pretty much finished when after almost a week of this nonsense about bullying, lawsuits being threatened by Hailey Glassman, the back and forth between Bullyville and Robert Hoffman that the only one picking up this story is ROL. Any other web-sites are just regurgitating ROL's articles. Kate must be seething with anger that she isn't the talk of the tabloids after going through so much trouble (or as she likes to call it work) to stir up all this crap. If she doesn't see after all this that she is washed up, nothing will.

RonnieandMaggie said...

When you look at the past 6-7 months it really is a fascinating time line.
Book is published and then pulled by Amazon
KK goes to CA to shoot CWS. While there, as another poster pointed out, decided she deserves the CA celebrity lifestyle. Perhaps met w/someone from a network who told her filming in PA is not cost effective even if they were interested. Plants the seed in her head that if she moves out there she would have a career and perhaps thinks that moving out there would give a network interest in filming at least one season (think Masche's moving to FL storyline).
Gets fired from CC but is not really bothered because she is now obsessed w/moving.
Disappears at the end of the year for her nip & tuck she will need if she is going to be a stah again.
She is now firm in her belief she wants the heck out of PA (no friends or family to speak of). Heck, she didn't even have a friend Kendra could have lunch with. Begins repairs that she has neglected in anticipation of putting the house for sale (what every home owner does before getting the realtor in to appraise or had an appraisal and was told what needed to be fixed).
Launches war against Robert to prevent re-release of book and Jon in order to get him to give up or lose custody. These are the two obstacles that are preventing her from living her CA dream.
Calls on BV when this campaign does not seem to be working.

Blowing In The Wind said...

LOL....and would the business model be based on the multiples all being the same size and same sex?? :) What happens if they're not? (Odds are pretty high)...perhaps it should be for identical multiples only!

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And only if they are the same sex. Otherwise, it could get very confusing. Kate, you better get right on this. Walmart is waiting with baited breath!

Laine said...

Terri said... 76
You know Kate's pretty much finished when after almost a week of this nonsense about bullying, lawsuits being threatened by Hailey Glassman, the back and forth between Bullyville and Robert Hoffman that the only one picking up this story is ROL. Any other web-sites are just regurgitating ROL's articles.

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I was just thinking the same thing....

It doesn't seem to be helping increase the sales of her cookbook on Amazon or B & N either. Her sales rank continues to fall. So unless there are large sales through her web site, this episode didn't help.

I notice they have increased the sale price to $12.83. I am not sure why they think it will sell better at a higher price, but I know nothing about marketing strategy.

Blowing In The Wind said...

Cristina Rich ‏@Sienna_Star 1h
@Kateplusmy8 I should be able to do itunes gift cards since I have my new job at Weight Watchers. I'm a receptionist & a lifetime member.

This poor soul still wants to send the kids gift cards. She's going to spend her money on the children of a millionaire.

WHY? I just can't figure out what is lacking in their reasoning ability to see that these kids will get birthday gifts from their parents...you just want to bang your head on the wall trying to figure out what is wrong with these fans that they can't comprehend this.

Kate, of course, reads the tweets and is not telling her, "Thanks for thinking of my children, but please help out some needy children in your area." I'm trying to think of a word to describe Kate right now, but nothing is coming to me.

White Organza said...

"Would the business model be based on the multiples all being the same size and same sex?? :) What happens if they're not? "

Gr8 question, AMD!!!!!!!! So you'll be glad to know that the Kate Gosselin's special clothing line for multiples just added a pratical box of ONE outfit to its collection. A gr8 idea if your "littles" are not all the same size and you still want to dress them alike!!!!!!!! All you have to do is to match one of our special outfit for multiples in one size to the exact identical special outfitfor multiples... wait, this is exciting... in ANOTHER size!!!!!!! An gr8 concept masterminded by an gr8 organizer mom!!!!!!!

bee said...

Does anyone know how many pre-ordered books have been purchased? Have not seen a count for a while and was wondering how sales were going.

westcoastie said...

Robert has a hilarious new post up on his site.

Just Down The Road said...

Hollybm78
@EmCr68 @kateplusmy8 @jman6466 You're right, although she'd be beautiful in anything, I like our Katie just the way she is :)

OUR Katie? Good grief.

kknoelle
@Kateplusmy8 hi kate you r my role model like really I cant go a single day without Kate plus 8 or Jon and Kate plus 8! Please respond!

You just have to wonder if these fans have absolutely nobody in their lives to whom they can look as a role model. Why Kate, of all people? I'd love to write a book on this...a critical sociological analysis.

njay said...

xxxxxxxxxx
@Kateplusmy8 @xxxxxxxx @xxxxxxxx @xxxxxxxxxxx Ur transparency&honesty was well received&appreciated&ur being rewarded cuz of it!Urock!
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her
6 And the devil said to Him, "I will give You all this domain and its glory; for it has been handed over to me, and I give it to whomever I wish. 7 "Therefore if You worship before me, it shall all be Yours." Luke 4:6-7

Virginia Pen Mom said...

miloandjack
RT @BluMyst: @MiloandJack @kateplusmy8 I ordered 9. 1for me 8 for gifts. Will do more if I can. #teamKate ;)

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The sheeple really think they can make Kate's book a bestseller with six of them ordering extras as gifts??

Kate's sold 44 on Amazon so far: 11 for March and 23 for April. I'm thinking her totals overall can't be more than four times that or about 200 books. Amazon is a pretty good barometer of overall sales in my experience.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


The sheeple really think they can make Kate's book a bestseller with six of them ordering extras as gifts??

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This would embarrass me. I wouldn't want sales artificially inflated just because friends and family felt sorry for me. I would want my book to do well because people legitimately wanted to buy it.

Virginia Pen Mom said...

Wait, did I say 11 + 23 equals 44? Erg. Long day. Okay, 34 books which has since gone up to 36 Amazon sales. 200 book sales from all distribution channels is probably generous. It should be interesting to watch her Amazon sales over the next months.

Marie said...

Bwahahahahaha!!!!! (those extra exclamation marks are for you Kate) Gosselin Book Blog's new post is hilarious!

Marie

Just Down The Road said...

Not a spoiler, but if anyone is watching American Idol, the only guy left, Lazaro, is singing Milo's song..."Close to You" and although it's a beautiful song, I just had to laugh and think of admin (who came up with that as Kate and Milo's theme song).

Heidi Ho Heidi Hi said...

Kate's crook book down 44% now selling at $12.83 hahhahahahahah...

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I think she offered it up MUCH too early. She should have taken preorders a couple weeks before while doing a media tour to drum up interest. At this rate people are going to get bored way too soon and forget about it.

I understand some people have reported that some cooks have very long release dates, however they cited very famous cooks or authors much more famous than Kate, like JK Rowling or Pioneer Woman. I think they can afford the long wait time.

I'm not sure I understand what the long wait is for anyway, they did the photoshoot in February and she's had all these recipes for ages, it shouldn't take that long to put it all together and slap it on amazon.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Ooo! Why do birds suddenly appear! I like that song not only for the fact that it fits perfectly, but also because it's a Karen Carpenter song and may the poor soul rest in peace but her thoughts on exercise and nutrition have always struck me as eerily similar to Kate's. She died in a jogging suit.

I think the reason Kate probably drove all the way to that dealer was she wanted a specific car in mind and they had it (Fiatt perhaps??). I did that with my last car. I was just getting a regular big brand car nothing special, however it was popular at the time with lots of shortages, and no dealer near me had the color I wanted. I didn't want to compromise on the color so I drove all the way out to Ontario (California, not Canada) to get it. And I got a better deal anyway.

A Pink Straight Jacket For Kate said...

xxxxxxxxl2 hours agovia Twitter for AndroidTwitter.

@Kateplusmy8 So. . . You still inspire me.

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It's absolutely baffling.

Kate is not inspirational.

Michael J. Fox is inspirational.

Children fighting with life threatening diseases are inspirational.

A family that is struggling to make ends meet, but still volunteers their time, clothing, and food for people with less than they have- they are inspirational.

Soldiers (and their families) who are willing to sacrifice their lives for their country- they are inspirational.

People that go to third world countries to help build schools, or provide medical care to improverished people- they are inspirational.

I can go on and on.

What the hell do these people find so inspirational in a middle aged woman who has done nothing but take, bully, intimidate, and manipulate everyone around her?

Virginia Pen Mom said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 78

The sheeple really think they can make Kate's book a bestseller with six of them ordering extras as gifts??

&&&

This would embarrass me. I wouldn't want sales artificially inflated just because friends and family felt sorry for me. I would want my book to do well because people legitimately wanted to buy it.

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It would embarrass me as well, Admin. Her reactions are so odd. I mean, these are pity sales.

Somewhere In Time said...

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 12m
@DaveGuinup @Kateplusmy8 @jman6466 A gr8 body, beautiful hair ...her million dollar smile...yep...Kate looks good in just abt anything! :)

I was sure Milo was a woman, but with her latest tweets, now I'm back to thinking it's a man. What women makes a remark about another woman's great body? She (or he) is desperately in love with Kate -- physically. These are not remarks from just an obsessed fan.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Someone said they felt sorry for the girl who tweeted about Kate buying a car because she is entering a shitstorm. Just to quash any rumors, I only see three tweets back to her and they are all respectful. There is no storm. A lot of people actually "liked" her comment.

It's simply not true that anyone who tweets about Kate gets harassed. This girl didn't get one single negative comment. One person politely asked if it were a Fiat, the other two politely asked what kind of car and if she met Kate. She didn't reply to any of those questions and no one got impatient.

If people want to comment passionately, but not DIRECTLY to this person, about getting a FOURTH car, I think that's a totally different issue. They have every right to do that. But that's not bullying or harassment.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Pink, beautiful post.

The person inspiring me this week is 25 year old Anne Smedinghoff, who found her calling in Afghanistan, and died delivering books to children.

And check out this: The embassy was in mourning Monday. During a memorial ceremony, one colleague said that if Smedinghoff could be summed up in a single word, it would be "authentic."

http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/04/08/3330383/state-departments-anne-smedinghoff.html#storylink=cpy

Virginia Pen Mom said...


Virginia Penn Mom - Mr. McNipples owns Karmaville too. lol! His (cough) motto is "As She Has Planted So Does She Harvest. Such is the Field of Karma".

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Auntie Ann, stop it. "Mr. McNipples," hahahahaha! This just makes me laugh every time I think of it--that tough guy, Mr. McNipples! Ooh, I'm scared. Mr. McNipples is coming for me!

[My husband thinks I'm giggling at a joke he's making.]

So let me get this straight. Kate's Field of Karma--"If you grift it, they will come..."

"Is this...hell?"

"No. It's Wernersville."

Take that, Mr. McNipples!

Marie said...

Love the posters on here

Marie

A Pink Straight Jacket For Kate said...

Somewhere In Time said... 87

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 12m
@DaveGuinup @Kateplusmy8 @jman6466 A gr8 body, beautiful hair ...her million dollar smile...yep...Kate looks good in just abt anything! :)

I was sure Milo was a woman, but with her latest tweets, now I'm back to thinking it's a man. What women makes a remark about another woman's great body? She (or he) is desperately in love with Kate -- physically. These are not remarks from just an obsessed fan.

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Hmmmm... Milo forgot to add that Kate has a great set of knockers.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Yes McNipples. You know what I find laughable? McNipples wants everyone else to apologize for transgressions some occurring more than two years ago. Many apologies have been issued on this side. Robert apologized today for mixing up his emails and not seeing an email from Radar asking for comment. Honest mistake.

But will McNipples ever apologize for taking up for Kate? Has anyone on that side of the fence apologized? It does not surprise me everyone all too happy to do that has been on this side of the fence.

Totally off topic question, does anyone remember that small picturesque town that Kate and production was spotted at on the RV trip with the kids but it never made the cut? I thought it was near Yellowstone somewhere but I'm completely blanking.

Somewhere In Time said...

The Irish fan who has been slobbering over Kate's beauty and wants to date her, tweeted her and asked what kind of shampoo she bought for the boys:

irishfan ‏@irishfan47 17m
@Kateplusmy8 what shampoo did u get them?

Why would he want to know that? So he can purchase the same thing and imagine that Kate is sniffing him and enjoying how he smells?

chefsummer #Leh said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 78

Um KK not embarrassed she still got her sheep to buy the lame cookbook.

chefsummer #Leh said...

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 2h
@DaveGuinup @Kateplusmy8 @jman6466 A gr8 body, beautiful hair ...her million dollar smile...yep...Kate looks good in just abt anything! :)
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Creepy much???

Aw Milo is going to be KK single white female.

Somewhere In Time said...

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 51
@Kateplusmy8 @jman6466 Seriously, U can rock some cute golf attire! Loved those shorts/shirt&wore on #WifeSwap! U made a #GreenStatement :)

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 44m
@Kateplusmy8 I bet U still go thu a ton of shampoo & conditioner w/all U long-haired women there! Do U take a # 2see who gets 2shower 1st?

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 57m
@Kateplusmy8 Do they wash their own hair now? Are they into blow-dryin yet? Mine spends more time on his hair than I do!!!

I can't imagine that Kate isn't creeped out when she gets tweets like this. Something is way, way off with Milo, and she just keeps it up. Why would Milo have to know who takes their showers first or if they wash their own hair? If a nine-year-old needs Mommy to wash hair, then there's something wrong.

Deanna and Milo were tweeting and sure enough, Gladys Kravitz stuck her nose in where it doesn't belong. She just can't stay out of anything that involves Kate.

Nothing yet about knockers, but I wouldn't put anything past her. Maybe she just wants to keep those for herself and not have the Twitter guys comment on them.

Pym said...

About Jon -- I'm with Ex Nurse that he deserves a halo on the top of the page. Somewhere along to way he developed the reserve of a Zen master. Three years ago he couldn't possibly have resisted the urge to respond to the flack he was getting. Kate just keeps on charging down the same path looking neither right nor left or even straight ahead to the yawning chasm waiting for her. Jon, however, who I believe was totally unfamiliar with introspection, has managed to learn from his past. He has at least learned that trying to settle the score with a public statement only makes things worse. I can only imagine how hard that must be. He seemed to be someone who just let life happen to him. In my day when a young person 'bummed' around Europe it was to 'find yourself' ie get your legs under you as a newly minted adult and figure out a direction for yourself. When they divorced he said he had missed out his twenties which he felt were mainly for partying. He didn't seem to have a clue that most people devote their twenties to personal growth and that a robust social life is only one part of it. Since he has been so quiet of late we have no idea how he came so far in so short a time. If I were to hazard a guess, I think part of it is not linking up with women like Kate and Hailey and Kate 2.0. I do hope he has grown in all sorts of ways in addition to the will to keep silent in trying times. Jon, I wish you peace.

White Organza said...

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 12m
@DaveGuinup @Kateplusmy8 @jman6466 A gr8 body, beautiful hair ...her million dollar smile...yep...Kate looks good in just abt anything! :)

(90) "I was sure Milo was a woman, but with her latest tweets, now I'm back to thinking it's a man. What women makes a remark about another woman's great body?"

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A brothel's "Madame", maybe? "Yes, this week, we have Désirée-Rose visiting us from Baton Rouge... Skin white as snow. Ruby lips. Knockers to make a grown man weeps..."

Marie said...

These people on twitter are freaking weird. how can Kate not be creeped out by them?

Marie

Lynne In RI said...

Maybe someone should remind this fan about the pecking episode.

lulzxxxx
@Kateplusmy8 off topic but u should do blog post on ur chickens! We r getting some & I'm doing lots of research but u r probably a pro!!

Somewhere In Time said...

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 3m
@Kateplusmy8 LOL...U better be alone or we will have a stampede 2ROL 4 an exclusive story! #GrowABoyfriendIsOkay :)

Huh?

chefsummer #Leh said...

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 2h
@Kateplusmy8 HaHa...good job Mom! Start feeding that male ego and they will soar w/confidence! Nothing like Mom's kisses & approval! :)
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Watch out Kate Milo loves ya. (gross)

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

My guess is that Jon was with a good therapist who recognized Kate for the narcissist and parental alienator she is and was smart enough to realize that the ONLY way to deal with such people is to advise him to ignore. And he actually took the advice.

Marie said...

Fired Up 4 Kate‏@MiloandJack3m
@Kateplusmy8 All bedrooms upstairs right? So logistically, the kids are ALL very close by U in case anyone gets scared & needs #Mommy :)
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WTF . . . stalker alert!

Marie

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

The questions about the children's showers are not only completely inappropriate, but they are huge red flags of deviant interest in them. It may be perfectly innocent questions but they have absolutely no right to ask them. Put yourself in the child's shoes, of course you wouldn't want a stranger asking such things.

Marie said...

So is Milo trying to find out the layout of the house, when the kids take showers, when Kate goes to bed?

All very inappropriate questions. Why does Kate engage her?

Marie

Somewhere In Time said...

irishfan ‏@irishfan47 8m
@Kateplusmy8 Well if u get scared I would be more than happy to come to your rescue :)

Oh. My. Word.

The sheeple, led by Milo, are getting much too personal tonight.

chefsummer #Leh said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 109

And Kate is soooo worried about the haters stalking her.

She needs to be more worried about her fans esp Milo.

Lynne In RI said...

MiloandJack
@Kateplusmy8 All bedrooms upstairs right? So logistically, the kids are ALL very close by U in case anyone gets scared & needs #Mommy :)

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Why in the heck does she want to know that? It is totally inappropriate. She wants Kate to reveal the locations of the bedrooms. Milo knows darn well where Kate's bedroom is. She knows everything about Kate.

A MOM said...

Not to interrupt, but AMAZON.com lowers price on Kate's cookbook to $10.14. By the time it comes to the release date, if ever, the book will be $5.00.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Hey remember Kimmie the sheeple who used to post so incessantly here? I had to ban her she was so pervasive.

I hate to say it but I'm kinda curious what she thinks NOW.

fidosmommy said...

When do the box bookstores (Walden Books, Walmart, K-Mart, Target, etc.) buy their copies of a book to sell? Do they order pre-release? Would those be reflected on the NovelRank sales, or are they recorded somewhere else? I know nothing about this, obviously.

Lynne In RI said...

Allisstair
@kateplusmy8 Price of cookbook down to $10.14 & not even out yet!! Wait'll the reviews come in & they're all sent back for refunds.

Where has it been marked down to $10.14? I just checked Amazon and it's still at $12.83 (save $10.12).

PatK said...

Someone tweeted Kate asking if she could release the cookbook earlier. Kate replied she wished she could, but that there was still too much work to do.

So does that mean it's not even finished? Or perhaps that it needs editing to include more stories/pics centered around the kids based on her fans' wishes?

Sleepless In Seattle said...

Andrea lee johnson ‏@JohnsonAndra
@Kateplusmy8 My grandson Brayden is 10 years old He uses nothing but axes

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Lizzie Borden?

Terri said...

I find it so funny that ever since Hailey said she was suing Kate all the tweeting about bullies have all but stopped. Kate is just moving right along as if that entire shit storm never happened. There is something seriously wrong with that woman.

Sleepless In Seattle said...

Sometimes reading the sheeples' tweets is so much more entertaining than what is on television!

The Zieglers. ♡ ‏@AdmireDanceMoms 21m

@Kateplusmy8 episode & I've watched your Celebrity Wife Swap episode at least 10 times. :)

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WHY? Comprehension issues? It took her ten times to grasp what the show was all about?

Sleepless In Seattle said...

Hey remember Kimmie the sheeple who used to post so incessantly here? I had to ban her she was so pervasive.

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lol, admin! Kimmie, who kept posting and posting and didn't know what "banned" meant? The one who had no upper case on her keyboard and who looked at the world through rose-colored glasses?

Whatever happened to her? She'd post under various names and then deny it was her, when the writing style was so distinctly Kimmie!

Over In Kate's County said...

A MOM said...Not to interrupt, but AMAZON.com lowers price on Kate's cookbook to $10.14. By the time it comes to the release date, if ever, the book will be $5.00.

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Where? This is from Amazon:
Kate Gosselin's Love Is in the Mix: Making Meals into Memories with 108+ Family-Friendly Recipes, Tips, and Traditions [Hardcover]
Kate Gosselin (Author)
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White Organza said... 102
Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 12m
@DaveGuinup @Kateplusmy8 @jman6466 A gr8 body, beautiful hair ...her million dollar smile...yep...Kate looks good in just abt anything! :)

(90) "I was sure Milo was a woman, but with her latest tweets, now I'm back to thinking it's a man. What women makes a remark about another woman's great body?"

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A brothel's "Madame", maybe? "Yes, this week, we have Désirée-Rose visiting us from Baton Rouge... Skin white as snow. Ruby lips. Knockers to make a grown man weeps..."
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Coming on this thread very late, and reading backwards, but does Milo realize the body,face teeth, and hair have all been sculptured.

Seriously, is she praising hair extentions,veneers, breast implants (X 2),liposuction, eyebrow lift, nose change, botox, etc...

I have no problem with women making "some changes," but can Milo see or understand that Kate is NOT sending healthy images to her fans by getting so many procedures done by age 37? I did say by 37. Seriously, how can the fans admire this?

My guess is people will see what they want to see. But all of this will have an impact on her 5 girls to some degree as they have seen the results of her constant physical changes, by choice, and question their looks.

Very sad example at age 37.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Good ole Kimmie. I'll always remember Kimmie saying we were on a quest to assign horrible actions to Kate.

No Kimmie, Kate did that all by her lonesome. Look at Bullyville. Seriously we don't need to assign anything to Kate, she orchestrates all this herself.

Virginia Pen Mom said...

Admin said...

Totally off topic question, does anyone remember that small picturesque town that Kate and production was spotted at on the RV trip with the kids but it never made the cut? I thought it was near Yellowstone somewhere but I'm completely blanking.

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Jackson Hole, Wyoming, maybe? I thought they stopped there.

Virginia Pen Mom said...

But will McNipples ever apologize for taking up for Kate? Has anyone on that side of the fence apologized? It does not surprise me everyone all too happy to do that has been on this side of the fence.

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A true bully never apologizes, and McNipples and Good Bra are the biggest bullies around! They really do belong together, hee hee.

Anonymous said...

Marie said... 108
Fired Up 4 Kate‏@MiloandJack3m
@Kateplusmy8 All bedrooms upstairs right? So logistically, the kids are ALL very close by U in case anyone gets scared & needs #Mommy :)
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WTF . . . stalker alert!

Marie

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Find this odd as Milo clearly knows Kate is on the first floor and the kids on second floor.
There is something very odd about "Milo's tweets," at best. Confirming Kate's words and passively/agressively challenging Kate's words constantly. Very interesting.

OrangeCrusher1 said...

Milo has definitely crossed yet another boundary with her creepily inappropriate tweets tonight. But the real question, asked above is WHY does Kate engage her? She needs a timeout in real time. Or how about blocking her? Nope, too much ego stroking for KG, and she can pretend the creepy tweets don't exist.

And I agree that cookbook was pre-released way too soon. Fall, with the holiday gift market ahead, would have been way better. But who am I kidding, with her real audience revealed, that would have been another 50 copies.

Silimom said...

To be fair to Milo, I believe the fact that Kate's room is on the first floor and the kids are upstairs was covered in a few of the Jon & Kate and Kate + 8 episodes.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I don't care if there bedrooms have been mentioned and even seen on the show, it's so inappropriate and creepy to be asking questions about bedrooms and showers too. Or really, about the kids at all. Can you imagine if a real celebrity was interviewed and they started talking about bedroom arrangements and showers? It would be the creepiest thing in the world.

Thank you Virginia that was it! Darn, way too far from Sheridan where I'm going to a wedding this summer. That place seemed so nice. Someday maybe.

Silimom said...

A MOM said... 114

No the price is $12.83. You save $10.12 (44%).

Silimom said...

Admin 86 said: I'm not sure I understand what the long wait is for anyway, they did the photoshoot in February and she's had all these recipes for ages, it shouldn't take that long to put it all together and slap it on amazon.

I think it's because, like the cruise, they're waiting to see what the demand is for the book before they commit to printing a large quantity. Her last book didn't do all that well. I think it's prudent on the part of the publisher she's working with to gauge demand first. But that's just my opinion.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Sillimom true maybe because of the nature of self publishing or at least using something that pretty much is a self publisher they want to amass as many orders as they possibly can.

It probably is cheaper to order a batch of 2,000 if they can as opposed to ordering batches of 20-30 at a time.

I wish Kate would just admit that though and stop pretending it takes five years to make a simple cookbook.

Meagler said...

Kate bought a car?????

Oh me oh my..ha ha, I knew there was a lot of kate speak in that article!! ha ha, wonder what fluff and flowers kate will fart out tomorrow!! Cant wait to decipher tomorrows kate speak!!

Also, I cant get the latest blog from Robert to open. It appears it is a youtube video. Could some post the url so I can copy and go straight to youtube to watch/ muchly appreciatted-ish..loll


also...bullyville sure is quiet....

Meagler said...

Notice how Kate always seems to have expereicned the exact same thing someone tweets or, or like her most recent tweet...I usually break out the gummy bears when I'm all along, and kate says ' Yep, I broke out the gummy fish".. She's allways all that...

And she's always a marytr.. I would love to do THAT but too busy, too broke,too difficult

Virginia Pen Mom said...

fidosmommy said... 116
When do the box bookstores (Walden Books, Walmart, K-Mart, Target, etc.) buy their copies of a book to sell? Do they order pre-release? Would those be reflected on the NovelRank sales, or are they recorded somewhere else? I know nothing about this, obviously.

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Fido, the only sales reflected on NovelRank are from Amazon (sales to individuals or possibly libraries, etc.)--purchases at "full" retail price. At least, full retail price as Amazon offers it, which is strangely VERY knocked down. And remember Kate's royalties on those rock bottom prices are still a percentage of sales price, so her earnings are whizzing downward with that low price.

My guess is HCI has authorized the low price as a way to move books. They want to go to various media outlets or issue press releases saying what FABULOUS sales they have on Amazon. Desperation. It tells me initial sales were not what they (or Kate--whoever is paying) had hoped.

Target and other stores will get the books at about 40% of cover price and will sell them for (roughly) full cover price. They'll purchase from HCI itself or a distributor like Ingram, but not from Amazon. Now, how does a Target buy it at 40% off and attempt to sell it at 100% cover price when Amazon has it nearly half that? None of this looks good to me.

I imagine the big box stores will try to get a handle on how the book is selling to determine IF they will sell it and will order it much closer to its actual release. So you see how the early pre-order could actually hurt sales. Target sits back and says, "Hm, nobody buying online. Why waste shelf space with it?" They might offer it in their online stores only--if that. How much clout does HCI have? I'm thinking not much. That will impact it too.

And the big box stores will order IF and only if there is returnability--meaning whatever they don't sell they can return to HCI for a refund.

The long pre-order date is bizarre at best, at least in my limited knowledge. People get bored. The only reason I can imagine is gauging interest before actual copies of the book are printed--hedging HCI's or Kate's risk (depending on who is footing the printing bill).

One other thing--on Amazon when you type in Kate Gosselin, the first pop-up choice is "How She Fooled the World" and the cookbook is below that. That means more people have searched for Robert's book than Kate's cookbook under Kate's name, lol. Oh, Katie.

Meagler said...

Characteristics of a narcissist Mother

http://parrishmiller.com/narcissists.html

Check out #17, but most of htem apply!

fidosmommy said...

I wish Kate would just admit that though and stop pretending it takes five years to make a simple cookbook

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I thought she was waiting for Crispix cereal to post another recipe on its label so she can finish up her chapter on snack foods.

rainbowsandunicorns said...


Find this odd as Milo clearly knows Kate is on the first floor and the kids on second floor.

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Of course she knows where Kate's bedroom is located. I think this was a preemptive strike to deflect haters who say that Kate's bedroom is on the first floor and that she's so far away from the kids if one of them gets scared. Milo figured she'd put it out there that all of them are relatively close on the same floor, even if she knows it's not true.

Meagler said...

Where's my posts :( darn glitches!! someone needs to sweep them under the carpet...lol..

Kate already took the pictures of her recipes, so what there else to write? Unless she realized she was adding way too much lemon juice and had to do a re-write...

A Mom said...

Silimom said; Kate's book is $12.83. She is correct sorry for mis typing. Was looking at $$$$$ saved! HAHA Still believe it goes down like Kate's cruise.

AuntieAnn said...

Virginia Pen Mom said... 121

But will McNipples ever apologize for taking up for Kate? Has anyone on that side of the fence apologized? It does not surprise me everyone all too happy to do that has been on this side of the fence.
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A true bully never apologizes, and McNipples and Good Bra are the biggest bullies around! They really do belong together, hee hee.

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I am curious what McNipples would do if he was forced into an apology. I doubt if it would be sincere.


If you've ever seen the movie "Uncle Buck", there's a scene in it where his niece's boyfriend "Bug" has cheated on her...Uncle Buck wants him to apologize to her which he does after he's forced into it, but it's not genuine. That's the kind of apology Kate and McNipples would offer.

2 and a half minute clip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeZ6e3nhHQk

AuntieAnn said...

fidosmommy said... 133

I wish Kate would just admit that though and stop pretending it takes five years to make a simple cookbook

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I thought she was waiting for Crispix cereal to post another recipe on its label so she can finish up her chapter on snack foods.

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lol!! So that's what took so long.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Plus that's a silly criticism anyway so why is Milo worried? Lots of houses are laid out with the master bedroom on the first level and the kids' bedrooms upstairs. There isn't room to do it any other way. You use baby monitors and eventually they get old enough to walk themselves down the stairs and get you.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

This one's for you Carlos. Change your name and email now! Oh shoot that's your real name, well I'm sorry IF you were upset BUT I'm a Mama bear!


20. She is never wrong about anything. No matter what she's done, she won't ever genuinely apologize for anything. Instead, any time she feels she is being made to apologize she will sulk and pout, issue an insulting apology or negate the apology she has just made with justifications, qualifications or self pity: "I'm sorry you felt that I humiliated you" "I'm sorry if I made you feel bad" "If I did that it was wrong" "I'm sorry, but I there's nothing I can do about it" "I'm sorry I made you feel clumsy, stupid and disgusting" "I'm sorry but it was just a joke. You're so over-sensitive" "I'm sorry that my own child feels she has to upset me and make me feel bad." The last insulting apology is also an example of projection.

Melissa NV said...

Kate already took the pictures of her recipes, so what there else to write? Unless she realized she was adding way too much lemon juice and had to do a re-write...

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Hopefully they've removed the green rabbit ears from the cover photo!

Meagler said...

I see them posts, they seem to load up last to first. My first one still not showing...but it was me going...

Oh me oh my....Kate bought a car...I knew that was what her kate speak in last weeks bog was saying.

Cant wait to dicipher (SP?) tomorrows bog! ha ha

Over And Out said...

A MOM said...
"Silimom said; Kate's book is $12.83. She is correct sorry for mis typing. Was looking at $$$$$ saved! HAHA Still believe it goes down like Kate's cruise."

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A non-fan on Twitter posted the same thing. You both looked at the price and came up with the same incorrect amount saved ($10.14)? Correct savings is $10.12:

Allisstair
@kateplusmy8 Price of cookbook down to $10.14 & not even out yet!! Wait'll the reviews come in & they're all sent back for refunds

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I'm really looking forward to the bog tomorrow too. I think it's going to be epic. The snark factor really is fun sometimes.

I wonder if it will be about how to make friends and influence people.

Meagler said...

Bog guesstimates:

I dont know what the story line will be, but my guess the message will be about "how people can change and the world needs to move on and not let a persons past influence how you feel about them, nor should it mar their future"

..and hidden in there may be "her" answer to the fate of the Audi...

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I know some people are sensitive to the comparison but bear with me or scroll by, so much of Kate's behavior is so similar to a DV perpetrator.

Someone else had a great post about how Jon is a DV victim and I 100% agree, it's a shame DV is mostly treated as a woman's issue and that men in legitimate DV relationships are brushed off as being weak or pushovers or somehow deserving of it because they didn't have to be a doormat, or passive aggressive, or whatever. Reverse sexism. It's not okay to abuse a woman but it is okay to abuse a man because for some reason people think a man is a wimp if he finds himself being abused by a woman, and therefore, deserves what he gets.

Anyway, Kate's behavior is so classic perpetrator. She was running around like crazy "attacking" people with Bullyville as her henchman. The second it all went a little too far (the analogy of the cops coming out) suddenly it's like it never happened and she's all kissy kissy again. It literally is like it never happened. If anyone brings it up she'll either ignore you or downplay it all.

It's crazy. Meanwhile we're all sitting here gobsmacked like, you saw what I saw this week, RIGHT? (Ya'll did right? :-))

Rhonda said...

Doesn't this just get so boring to everyone? Who did what, said what, went where? No one pays attention to this Hoffman character,he won't sell many books. No one is interested in the G family and no one is interested in Jon/he made his own bed long before the show ended/he sat on that sofa so not speaking/not there/he was in love with that Hailey gal and he wanted out. He blew his money, he believed people like M. Lohan, traveled to Europe made films high as a kite,he was a waste and a joke and he did that himself, he looked like a fool, it is yesterday,now he is broke, maybe he stole the hard drive, maybe it was doctored and maybe no one cares except the people here. The kids were or weren't abused, they seem normal kids and no one knows if anyone was writing a screenplay about abuse or not. Why hasn't anyone come forward who worked for Kate and spilled the beans if she was physically abusive to her children. There were too many people in that house round the clock working for Kate and they could have helped her, saw her every action. It is hard to believe Jon didn't phony up that hard drive and when it began who knows. Jon is or was an IT guy, he could have had Kate's hard drive hooked up to a network and monitored every entry and also changed things. Why would call out lies to hoffman, better to ignore him and he will go away. The way the media news is everyday has something different to discuss and no one is interested in the G family anymore not really. Something appears and then nothing. Neither parent has any real publicity but I do think Jon let his small brain ruin his thinking of the big brain when he thought all those women wanted him. As he said many time "I have always been a Dad all my life, my entire 20s were married life and children" and that was his reason for wanting "some freedom"all bull crap from all 3 of them: hoffman, Kate and Jon and no one is gonna buy that new book if there is one.

fidosmommy said...

Virginia Pen Mom, thanks so much for the detailed reply. I appreciate it. For some reason I cannot get onto NovelRank - the browser tells me it can't connect to that website, even though I have been on it in previous years. I had forgotten what all NR
tracked. You've cleared that up for me. :-)

Alicia said...

For a long time we have needed limits on this internet and I do mean bullying and threatening someone's life on an e mail. How horrific this internet has turned into. No one,not even a Larry Flynt deserves a hate mail filled with threats of death. People say we don't need controls on the Net? It has gone too far when you think you can make up an e mail address from hot mail or yahoo or goole, etc. and send someone threatening e mail. Terrible to have to receive that. Stalking at one time was the worse thing, now the computer is the stalker and life threatening? I hnad it to Mcginty (sp?)of BV to follow thru with this as it doesn't just pertain to Kate but others also. Was the internet constructed to scare families, teenagers? I don't think so, but the sick people who threatened Kate that is deplorable.

Silimom said...

Admin - I was just responding to this comment Find this odd as Milo clearly knows Kate is on the first floor and the kids on second floor. when I made my reply about Milo and that it had been already mentioned in the shows where the bedrooms were located. I misunderstood it as the poster couldn't understand why Milo might know this information.

I agree Milo's questions were inappropriate and I hope they were ignored. And I feel it's just plain wrong that anyone outside of their immediate circle knows anything about their sleeping arrangements.

Silimom said...

So reflecting on this past week, I wonder what would have happened if everyone had just said "Meh." Would Kate and BV have stopped their shenanigans sooner? I know, probably not.

I'm just reminded of a situation in my daughter's class. There is a boy who constantly tells her he's going to hack one of her online animal game accounts (a kids website - she's in upper elementary school). Mind you, this boy is in her Special Ed class and he's much lower on the autism spectrum than she and trust me, he couldn't do it even if he really wanted to. He tells her this because she gets mad and he likes to see the reaction. It's a "Ooooo. What does THIS button do?" type of thing and not done maliciously.

Still, it really upsets her and it's hard for her to see reason. We're trying to work with her on always responding with a "That's nice." rather than getting mad which is hard because she takes it all very, very seriously.

I think the same thing happens here, to some degree. We all knew, if we really thought about it, that all of BV's threats to sue, that Kate's fanning the flames, and Hailey's threats to sue Kate were idle threats made to generate publicity for a website run by a bully, a woman who knows her 15 minutes are up and fears being irrelevant and a twenty something who was auditioning for reality tv before she dated Jon and who is trying to generate publicity for her new show.

In the meantime, several people, both those guilty of poor judgment and taking their vitriol too far and innocent bystanders, were publicly outed (that to me is a lawsuit right there because those actions were done on the part of BV with malice aforethought with the intent to harm the reputations of these "haters") and their private, identifying information shared against thir will. 8 children were once again forced to watch their mother attempt to smear their father in the court of public opinion. And several posters here and likely other sites wasted precious emotional energy and time that cannot be replaced.

I think we need to learn to stop, take a breath when these scenarios come up, step back and say "That's nice, Kate." and then go about our business.

But that is just my opinion. Take it for what you will.

Let's throw tomatoes said...

Admin. Kate's goal was to taint Roberts book, incriminate Jon, scare of her critics, come across that she is the one bullied, she wants to stop bulling and did it all with the help from Bullyville! And she did it in one week!

Now she's back to tweeting and scamming for freebies! All is good with the world in Kate's mind!

BTW, I disagree that the media is done with her. They have never reported the negatitive stories about her in the past! But the radio and TV interviews come as soon as she gets a new job,modeling, running marathons, CWS or just any crap she writes on her lying toy!

The media likes her and they will keep her around. Kate Gosselin is like a very bad rash that never goes away! And with that uncheerful note I will go to sleep!

Night!

Anonymous said...

Observation:
In 3 1/2 years Kate went from being one of Barbara Walters' 10 most fascinating people of 2009 to a washed up D'list reality personality who gets her adulation from a handful of backside kissing twitter folk.

It would be so sad if it wasn't so funny.

Tucker's Mom said...

It's crazy. Meanwhile we're all sitting here gobsmacked like, you saw what I saw this week, RIGHT? (Ya'll did right? :-))
April 10, 2013 at 10:21 PM
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The firing heard 'round the world? Never happened!
Bullyville who?
Book about me?? What book??
My kids were expelled from school for misbehavior? Nah! Never happened! They had "medical issues".
(ps.... Kate's PR team took a bit too long to come up with that narrative re-writing history)

Anonymous said...

Sillimom true maybe because of the nature of self publishing or at least using something that pretty much is a self publisher they want to amass as many orders as they possibly can.

It probably is cheaper to order a batch of 2,000 if they can as opposed to ordering batches of 20-30 at a time.

I wish Kate would just admit that though and stop pretending it takes five years to make a simple cookbook.
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From Anonymous who posted about HCI:

HCI is a shoe string operation. The editor assigned to Kate's book most likely has a number of other projects to work on and depending on scheduling for release, Kate's might not be the priority. Photo heavy books also take a lot of time in production because of design issues. Not that I know it is photo heavy, I'm just guessing it is because it is a cookbook.

The lack of a "quick" release" doesn't really indicate much except that the book issn't ready yet OR they are trying to time it with some event to garner more publicity.

I also wonder if Kate had someone else write the cookbook for her.




Jennifer said...

"The long pre-order date is bizarre at best, at least in my limited knowledge."

When I worked at the book publisher, I could remember announcing pub dates for books well in advance, but not offering them for preorder via outlets like Amazon. But if you look around Amazon, you'll find a number of books (particularly cookbooks) that are pubbing in late summer/fall but are available for preorder now. (These are books pubbed by conventional publishers like Random House and written by established authors.) And every one of them is discounted off the regular price.

A Pink Straight Jacket For Kate said...

Let's throw tomatoes said... 162

Admin. Kate's goal was to taint Roberts book, incriminate Jon, scare of her critics, come across that she is the one bullied, she wants to stop bulling and did it all with the help from Bullyville! And she did it in one week!

Now she's back to tweeting and scamming for freebies! All is good with the world in Kate's mind!

BTW, I disagree that the media is done with her. They have never reported the negatitive stories about her in the past! But the radio and TV interviews come as soon as she gets a new job,modeling, running marathons, CWS or just any crap she writes on her lying toy!

The media likes her and they will keep her around. Kate Gosselin is like a very bad rash that never goes away! And with that uncheerful note I will go to sleep!

Night!

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I respectfully disagree, Let's Throw Tomatoes.

Kate's basically done.

After swooping into show business like a vulture, she has only left one mark.

She is unmarketable.



Unlikeable as well...





White Organza said...

"We all knew, if we really thought about it, that all of BV's threats to sue, that Kate's fanning the flames, and Hailey's threats to sue Kate were idle threats made to generate publicity for a website run by a bully, a woman who knows her 15 minutes are up and fears being irrelevant and a twenty something who was auditioning for reality tv before she dated Jon and who is trying to generate publicity for her new show."
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Sillimom, that's an absolutely brilliant recapitulation of the past week's shananigans in Katesville! I swear at times I had the impression I was watching old Keystone Kops movies: everybody running around in circles, bumping in each other, tripping on this and that, falling left and right, huffing and puffing, but generally not accomplishing much.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Alicia, what's wrong with calling the police and filing for a restraining order if you are being legitimately harrassed?

That gal from Real Housewives did just that when she believed a blogger was harassing her. She lost, but that doesn't change the fact that she had legal mechanisms to deal with it.

The only thing that needs to change is one, sites like Twitter needs to police such things better and ban people, and two, that it needs to be easier to identify someone through a subpoena if you are legitimately being harassed, so that you can take them to a court of law and deal with it as if it were any other harassment. But I don't buy the argument we need BV, we HAVE a court of law that is perfectly capable of dealing with harassment issues, we just have to make sure these cases get there where they are supposed to be.

I'm not understanding how bullying back by BV accomplishes anything when you are truly in danger. If anything that just makes the person madder. What if they tick someone off enough to snap?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Why hasn't anyone come forward who worked for Kate and spilled the beans if she was physically abusive to her children.

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They have, but the media didn't listen. This was the saint Kate years when no one would attack her. In approximately November 2009 a former employee came forward and said that Kate beats her children. They also said Kate drinks too much. This story was ignored as stories of abuse often are. Perhaps if she showed her name and face it would have helped it gain traction, but she was probably too petrified to do that.

http://www.realitytvkids.com/2009/11/former-nanny-accuses-kate-of-drinking.html

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

2009:

"By the end of the day after the kids were settled, Kate would drink a bottle of wine by herself. This happened several nights a week," said the source, who worked with the Gosselins for six months and quit at the end of summer 2008.

"Jon didn't usually drink with her, and he didn't seem pleased with it. He'd roll his eyes and tell Kate to put the wine down. She'd answer, 'Screw you. I'll do what I want.' Her frustration with the kids seemed to be taking a toll, and drinking was her outlet."

Kate was "short-fused and demanding," according to the source, and while off-camera, she often disciplined the children in a very harsh, sometimes even violent, manner.

"When one of the boys closed a door on another one once, Kate got in their faces and yelled, 'You tell me the truth about what happened!'" the source recalled.

"The children just stood there, terrified. Then she dragged one of the boys into the bathroom and spanked him five or six times with a large plastic mixing spoon.

"You could hear Kate forcefully whacking the child and the child screaming at the top of his lungs. People told me it happened more than once, but it was off-camera because Kate didn't want it in the show."

The source also witnessed the growing closeness between Kate and her bodyguard, New Zealand native Steve Neild.

In a surprisingly intimate gesture, "Steve often put his hands on her hips to guide her. He didn't have to touch her, but he always did, and Kate certainly didn't object to it," the source revealed.

Tink said...

New article on Radar.

Tink said...

The Glassman family must rue the day they offered to help Kate. Little did the know...

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I thought Hailey's family told her to shut up.

FYI said...

ROL has another interview with Hailey, who claims that Robert was the "main" photographer responsible for the pictures of her and Jon kissing back in Sept. 2009.

http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2013/04/jon-gosselin-anti-kate-book-author-split-money-on-photo-ops-he-was-our-main-photo-guy-says-hailey-glassman/

There is no photo credit given to these pictures, except for being a radaronline exclusive. If Robert (or Rob, as Hailey calls him)took these pictures, why would he sell them to ROL and not US Weekly, for whom he worked?

Does Hailey even know what Robert looks like? Perhaps she is confusing him with Chris Watts, who seemed to be the main pap who took photos of the Gosselins at the time.

Susie Cincinnati said...


BTW, I disagree that the media is done with her. They have never reported the negatitive stories about her in the past

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What? Of course they've reported negative stories about her. They ran rampant...online as well as the tabloids. There wouldn't be space to list all of the negative stories that have been printed about her. She is NOT a media darling and hasn't been for quite some time, nor will she be.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

If you notice this important detail, Hailey also said the pap (Robert, or perhaps Kate is a Twit's theory Chris), pretty much told them I'm taking the photographs whether you like it or not. So, given that, they might as well work with him so the pictures are flattering and everyone is benefiting financially.

Hailey is describing most relationships with the paps when people are on every cover. I scratch your back you scratch mine, that way the pictures look good and everyone benefits financially. The other option is the pics may not look good and only the pap benefits. But either way, the pics are happening. I'm not sure how that proves that Robert and Jon were close. Was Brad Pitt close to the paps who took the cover spread of his twins just because he invited them in? Her story is anecdotal at best.

I bet Robert will respond. Another popcorn worthy day!

Susie Cincinnati said...

I think the same thing happens here, to some degree. We all knew, if we really thought about it, that all of BV's threats to sue, that Kate's fanning the flames, and Hailey's threats to sue Kate were idle threats made to generate publicity for a website run by a bully,

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This just hasn't happened in the past week. It's been going on for some time. I'm suing you, you're suing me, cease and desist have been sent out, was the process server at your house, police reports have been filed, see you in court, all screengrabs have been saved, get ready for the sheriff, attorney has all information, etc, etc, etc.

This happens on both sides of the fence. Nobody takes anything seriously. Is Hailey really suing Kate? Is there a class-action lawsuit against the worst offenders? Are there countersuits being filed? Who knows? If we see proof, then we can believe it. It's kind of like the right hand not knowing what the left hand is doing. Keystone Kops is right.

PatK said...

Hailey won't keep her yapper shut as long as she can glean a little more publicity for her supposed upcoming reality stint.

I'd like to see them ALL have to answer to a court and let the chips fall where they may. Time to get this thing moving toward an end.

OrangeCrusher1 said...

Well darn and here we are heading out the door for a road trip to NoCal - guess I will have some fun reading at the other end. Save me some popcorn.

Tink said...

I've been thinking about the whole bullying thing.

Posting negative comments on this blog is in no way bullying, we're all here by choice.

Tweeting negative comments to Kate and her Sheeple is bullying, or at a minimum classless and wrong.

I've yet to see anyone's mind changed through the nastiness, sometimes you have to agree to disagree.

I'm glad we have this blog. Most of us strongly dislike Kate (and many of her fans) but keeping it here doesn't hurt others.

FYI said...

From Robert's book, where he is talking about the kids and the paparazzi:

The problem is that Kate herself tells the children lies about the paparazzi and intentionally tries to scare them. Jon’s approach was completely different from Kate’s. He knew these guys were just doing their jobs and were going to take pictures regardless of what he or Kate said, so why not be civil to them? In addition to being working paparazzi, one or two of the guys became friends with Jon and in turn, got up close and personal with the kids.

Hoffman, Robert (2012-09-27). KATE GOSSELIN: HOW SHE FOOLED THE WORLD (Kindle Locations 15143-15147). . Kindle Edition.

So it looks like Hailey is blaming "Rob", when it could have been any one of the paps who were there at the time.

Also, wasn't Robert a reporter, not a pap?

What happened to her claim that she didn't want to get re-involved in the "Gosselin mess". Seems she's changing her tune again--maybe, her new reality show didn't work out.

Anonymous said...

Email Exchanges Between Kate Gosselin & Hailey Glassman: Proof Kate Took Jon’s Incriminating Correspondence

This above statement was at the bottom of e-mail exchange on each page in the ROL article today. What does this mean? Is this an error?
leslie

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

I don't get what's going on with Hailey and ROL. Didn't she say in emails to Kate that her mother was not well and couldn't take any more Gosselin drama and that she would cut of Hailey's money if it continued?

Yet Hailey's in the headlines right in the middle of Gosselin drama.

Anonymous said...

Tweeting negative comments is not bullying. Look up the definition of the word.
Leslie

Unknown said...

Pym said... 107
''About Jon -- I'm with Ex Nurse that he deserves a halo on the top of the page''
~~~~~~~~~
I agree that Jon should get some kind of acknowledgement for his heroic silence. As outraged as we are for the things KK has done, I can't even imagine how difficult it must be for him to not comment on the despicable behavior of KK.

The more outrageous KK is, the more thankful I am that Liz posted the photos of the relaxed little boy with the pit bull. It was tangible evidence that time with Jon was totally unlike the blank faced robotic children we see with KK.

I see Jon's silence as a flashing neon sign over his head that he is in a very good place, and that causes me to believe that Jon is still what he has always been...a loving and safe place for his children. It would be nice to see him rewarded somehow on this blog heading.

Children First said...

I'm missing something here. In the text messages, Jon says something to Hailey about the guy she saw in the diner who she thought was gay. If Jon and Robert were so close and he was the main photo guy, wouldn't Hailey have known who he was and Jon wouldn't have to identify him as being Rob the guy from the diner? It didn't sound like Hailey knew who he was...why didn't Jon just say Robert, or Rob?

FYI said...

Hailey is just rehashing a story she already told when she appeared on "My Life is a Lifetime Movie", where she said that Jon sold her out to the paparazzi. The only difference now is that she is naming "Rob" as the pap.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/15/hailey-glassman-jon-gosselin-lifetime-video_n_2135590.html

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I've come to believe in following this saga that some people really are addicted to the spotlight and it's not that different than drugs. Since I believe most people don't want to be famous and don't like this sort of negative attention, I think this is a concept that has been difficult for most of us to understand or accept. And yet I believe it to be true.

Hailey's got threats of lawsuits flying around, a family telling her that her involvement in this is tearing them apart and that if it continues they will have to cut her off, and what does she do? Goes out and "shoots up" again by giving yet another tabloid trash story. It really is fascinating to watch the interplay between addict and events.

Tink said...

Jon has showed remarkable restraint in not commenting on, well anything, lately.

I think he's grown up a lot in the past few years.

Anonymous said...

My take on the online bullying angle.

When you put yourself out there on the internet (in the form of an image/picture, a comment, blog post, video, etc) it is comparable to walking into a room filled with over 100 people and shouting at the top of your lungs.
Some will avoid you, some will comment, some will yell back and yes you may be heckled and laughed at and called a fool.

Online bullying is when a private person puts an image, comment, journal entry on a private webpage (password protected) or private facebook or twitter account, or sends a private image via phone or otherwise and that image, comment, etc. gets out on the internet for EVERYONE to see, via hackers, a disgruntled friend, or as blackmail, and then that private person is bullied, harassed, maligned, etc. <-- that my friends in my humble opinion is BULLYING.

While nothing can protect a person from exposure on the internet, when you do your best to stay as private as you can and put all the available options out there, then bullying someone who tried to protect themselves is wrong and it warrants action.

A person who's sole reason for living is to expose themselves and their family for profit should expect the worst. When you want to live your life out on the internet for thousands of unknown people to 'watch/read' then you will be heckled, jeered, sometimes praised, but mostly criticized.

In the end, one must remember, if you can't stand the heat and want to cry foul every time someone doesn't like you and criticizes you, then be my guest and go private or get off the internet.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I was going to say that, I thought Robert had sold himself as a "reporter" to US Weekly. They already had their guys who were taking great pap photos, but they needed someone who was getting along with the family and had a number of sources to feed them the actual stories to pair with the photos.

I don't recall photos of Robert getting credited. It was always Chris. I do recall ARTICLES being credited to Robert.

Silimom said...

Robert, it's time. Whatever this explosive evidence you have that will prove to the world beyond any question of a doubt that Kate is a liar and an abuser, post it. This has gone on long enough. If you're willing to share your information for free to media sources then just share it to the world. As you said, the only news group interested is Radar. You're book is already out there. I own a copy. So do several others. The only profit to be had now is to expose Kate for who she truly is and to just shut down these arguments between her fans and non fans. If your evidence is as irrefutable as you claim, it may be the one thing that might finally force Kate to face reality and get help. It's a big if, I know, but it could allow her family and friends to stage an intervention.

If you don't publish it, I understand. But you can't keep threatening. It doesn't reign her in and it just ends up making you one of the pot stirrers. It's time to show your hand or fold, I think.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Berks I agree 100%.

It has to be a PRIVATE person, just minding their own business. There needs to be an element of being "chased down" on the internet, not flashing your private info in everyone's faces so publicly than crying when someone doesn't like it.

Kate is not private and is not just minding her own business. She is a public figure and is shoving her business down our throats.

There's actually a much stronger argument for JON being bullied if they REALLY want to go there. He is private and is minding his own business and is harassed daily.

Susie Cincinnati said...

irishfan47
@Kateplusmy8 Morning Beautiful! Do u live close 2 Harrisburg?Have buss meeting today & was wondering if u would be up for ur BDay dessert?

This guy is not going to give up. He knows she lives near Reading. He knows where Harrisburg is. Why would he ask her if she lives close to Harrisburg?
That one really scares me.

A Pink Straight Jacket For Kate said...

Hailey Glassman Says Jon Gosselin Told Paparazzi Where To Find Her On 'My Life Is A Lifetime Movie'

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/15/hailey-glassman-jon-gosselin-lifetime-video_n_2135590.html

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Yeah, well guess what? Jon was calling the paps, and so was Kate.

We all know that publicity & making lots of money, was a driving force for those two.

Old news.

Big deal.

Anonymous said...

Email Exchanges Between Kate Gosselin & Hailey Glassman: Proof Kate Took Jon’s Incriminating Correspondence

What does this coment mean? It was posted at the bottom of every e-mail in the ROL article today.
Leslie

A Pink Straight Jacket For Kate said...

P.S. I do not condone either Jon or Kate's unsavory behavior during that time.

They were BOTH behaving like animals.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Children, you just busted Hailey.

This is a case of not being able to keep lies straight.

In this latest story Robert and Jon were thick as thieves, why she even goes into an elaborate story about how they had an elaborate plan with Robert about cropping Hailey from the waist up, posing for pictures and splitting the profits. But if you look at the dates of those kissing pics, they were from SEPTEMBER 2009. A full month before the alleged text conversation.

Then, allegedly, in October 2009 in the texts which I'm now certain are fake, Jon has to remind Hailey that "Rob" is the one she thought was gay at the diner? Why not say you know Robert Hoffman our main man pap who crops your photos and we share money with?? HELLO????

Why would she even have to ask who he was if that were the case?

BUSTED. Hailey is an amateur!

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