Last week's Kitchen Nightmare's featured some of the most-hated instant villains in reality T.V. history. Amy and Samy Bouzaglo of Scottsdale, Arizona, stole their staffs' tips, fired people on the spot for minor transgressions, and refused to consider any of Gordon Ramsey's suggestions to improve. The pair was so insufferable, Ramsey finally walked out and stopped production, the first time he's ever done so. And the drama didn't stop there. A few days later, a string of nasty Facebook posts, reportedly from the restaurant (they claim they were "hacked"), set off a social media firestorm.
The couple have been bellyaching for years about their "bullies" and "haters," to little sympathy from the rest of the world. Many bloggers and entertainment writers out there have summed this couple up quite nicely, but perhaps ABC's Alex Alvarez did it best. Wrote Alvarez this week: "The reality is that most people do not know or care enough about you to hate you. The internet will always be populated with trolls, but those people are entirely distinct from people who disagree with or criticize you. People are able to not enjoy your service, product, or performance while having no opinion of you as a person. People are capable of not enjoying a pizza dish while also not actively plotting to bring on your demise and that of your restaurant. And those are the people worth listening to. They can potentially make you and what you do better."
This whole saga set off an interesting discussion of what haters and bullies really are and what role social media plays in one's interactions with their clientele, fans, and non-fans. It highlighted the simple fact that many times, "hate" is just constructive criticism that the recipient just could not handle.
Tuesday, Amy's Baking Company will re-open for dinner service. With boobyguards in place and a sold out house, this ridiculous saga is probably not over yet. The drama has already started, with Kitchen Nightmares reportedly sending what sounds like some kind of cease and desist to the couple, which caused them to cancel a planned press conference tomorrow. Darn, that press conference could have been good!
You can watch the Kitchen Nightmare's episode in full on Youtube.
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@Kateplusmy8 Of course, I figured U were probably doin this just 2harass me...keep me N suspense as U normally do! #InTheDarkMilo :
I bet Milo really has a temper if things don't go her way. It just seems that she could get pretty darn nasty.
Half pint's been posting photos of her delicious looking food for months. She gets like 70-100 comments on them. She is able to see what readers like and want.
Occasionally she posts pics of the kids, one was her youngest proudly getting his braces off but he's like 16 years old for heaven sake. Her other children are adults. She has all boys, I believe, and adores them. Oh and she is always kissing and cuddling her pets. A photo of a pet is not a pet by himself with a rubber chicken. It's her planting a big kiss on his cheek. She is also divorced and a "single mom" but never talks badly about him.
I wonder if the "Smiths" will be coming over for Memorial Day like they did last year. Maybe Kate hasn't been on twitter so much (until today) because she's been making a list of chores for them to do. Remember they fixed the garage door and tractor last year.
I guess Mr. Smith won't be making pizza this year, since they already had that Friday night.
Oh and her youngest wanted to go to Paris, so SHE TOOK HIM. She didn't wait for someone to pay her way. Her instagram is INTERESTING.
This is kind of a funny blog on celebritybitchy: "After Melissa appeared on Dancing With The Stars last year looking noticeably altered (and after her somewhat juicy tell-all memoir) she started attracting tabloid attention, Melissa’s life was interesting! It’s just that it was Melissa Gilbert, so the stories didn’t get much mileage."
It's true, she's an interesting celeb lol. Her romances are like four months long then she's engaged and married. It's just no one cares!
To C word (just lovely), please stop attacking people here, you will never be published. There is no rule about pool water and there is no request not to talk about it. How you possibly got that out of this is beyond me.
Is this typical of a narcissist? I've never known one (thank goodness) but is it always about them?
A fan said:
t0getherwefloat
@Kateplusmy8 my exams are almost over kate! i think the good luck you gave me a month or so back really made me do well. thanks again xx
Kate responded:
kateplusmy8
@t0getherwefloat yay! You're welcome!!!
It would seem a "normal" person would respond with something like, "I'm glad you did well, but I can't take credit. It's due to your hard work and diligence" (or something to that effect).
I tried the fruit fly capture mixture this afternoon, and son of a gun, there are fruit flies in the glass this evening. Thank you for the tip!
Melissa Gilbert and Timothy Busfield of Thirtysomething were married Apr. 25, 2013.
Melissa wore a crimson red strapless dress and Tim wore a navy blue suit with a white shirt open a little and no tie.
Boy, that was a big OUCH that kate gave irishfan. Do you think kate is reading here and actually taking our advice about not answering Milo's and irishfans tweets because their tweets are scary?
So I have a question about Kate's appearance on Celebrity Wife Swap...
There was some talk about there being a prize available to the pair that attracted the highest viewership this season. A trip to Paris, if I'm remembering correctly. With that in mind (sketchy details and all), does anyone know the rankings of this season's shows? Do you think Kate and Kendra's episode drew the biggest audience?
Improbable Dreams said
There was some talk about there being a prize available to the pair that attracted the highest viewership this season. A trip to Paris, if I'm remembering correctly. With that in mind (sketchy details and all), does anyone know the rankings of this season's shows? Do you think Kate and Kendra's episode drew the biggest audience?
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UGH! Kate clomping around in Paris. Talk about the ugly American. I can see her dropping off one of her autographed (!!!!) cookbooks at Le Cordon Bleu, talking to an imaginary camera about how everyone in America like so, so, so like loves her "Kate Salad" and how she's allowing the chefs to teach how to make it if they have organic vegetables in France.
I think Kate and Kendra's episode might have drawn a larger audience than subsequent CWS shows since they were on the first commercial and the show was been hyped with their names. I didn't even notice who was on the next episodes. But after watching some of K and K I wouldn't be surprised if the show fizzled. Most sane 'celebrities' would not participate.
Regarding Kate's cold pool, she said last year that it is a heated pool, and she heats it at first, when it's cold. Why not do that this year? And she said it was "tradition" to open the pool for the tups' birthday. Why did she wait this year, rather than follow tradition? Perhaps she didn't want to pay to heat it? Is she really so cheap that she'd let the kids freeze rather than spend a few bucks to heat it so they could enjoy themselves? She also said last year that she requires them to stay in for 20 minutes. Why torture them by forcing them to stay in cold water for so long? She's sadistic!
As, Kate must be unhappy right now because Poineer Woman was on Paula Deen's show this morning. I sometimes watch Paula so that caught my eye. The show was interesting because PW was in as a GUEST, so she was making Paula's food really. She wasn't hawking her recipes. The only thing I remember she mentioned as her own recipe was the coffee drink. She was so gracious, her boys well behaved (no hitting, no hogging for camera time) and her husband is humble. When Paula asked him how many acres, he just simply said it's good sized & left at that. Neither did PW. They dint come off as the type of people to rub it in other people's faces, by not saying, it's 5,000 acres! Unlike Kate who continues to do it, 'My three cars, my 2 dishwashers'. PW is getting more national exposure and Kate must be unhappy! No one has asked Kate to come on as a guest to demo recipes from her cookbook. Boo-hoo!
I hope PW will get more guest spots like that so people will get a chance to see her ouside if her own show & see that this is how she really is. This is how I saw it because she definitely did not try to upstage Paula.
LOL, Tweet-le Dee at 10!
Re: an expenses-paid vacation to the pair with the highest ratings. Am I remembering that contest right?
Kate's CWS episode did have higher ratings than the subsequent 2 episodes, but that could be due to the fact that it was the first episode, not because of Kate.
These are the ratings for those shows:
Episode 02-03: Tuesday, 03/12/13-Gilbert Gottfried/Alan Thicke
1.6 in the demo (+7% change) with 5.02 million (+21% change).
Season averages: 1.83 in the demo with 5.40 million.
Episode 02-02: Tuesday, 03/05/13-Coolio/Mark McGrath
1.5 in the demo (-38% change) with 4.14 million (-41% change).
Season averages: 1.95 in the demo with 5.59 million.
Episode 02-01: Tuesday, 02/22/13-Kate/Kendra
2.4 rating in the 18-49 demographic with 7.05 million total viewers.
Season averages: 2.40 in the demo with 7.05 million.
http://tvseriesfinale.com/tv-show/celebrity-wife-swap-season-two-ratings-27109/
ABC will be airing 6 new episodes over the summer,starting June 23, but no celebrities have been announced yet.
http://tvseriesfinale.com/tv-show/celebrity-wife-swap-abc-episodes-27344/
I don't think any prizes are awarded for the Celebrity version. I'm not sure if any are even offered for the regular version, which had been airing on ABC the last month or so.
I think it's creepy the way Milo was helping Kate invite the public to view pictures of the children. She has turned jt in a full freak circus show and she is the co-grand master (what do you call the guy who shouts into the bull horn?) Ironic she has no problem helping someone else shove these pictures in our faces but she will not post pictures of her own children, her husband and herself. She is a major hypocrite if you ask me
Aww. Kate's tweets to Milo yesterday have caused her to break out into poetry. She must be on cloud 9:
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 1h
@Kateplusmy8 GM Kate...how are things inside the Gosselin gate? Cock-a-doodle-doo...are you guys awake? :)
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 1h
@Kateplusmy8 There is absolutely nothing in the world that has the power to ruin your day. Don't give your power away! In positivity stay!
And she's back to speaking "Yoda."
miloandjack
@Kateplusmy8 GM Kate...how are things inside the Gosselin gate? Cock-a-doodle-doo...are you guys awake? :)
If you were Kate, wouldn't this drive you absolutely nuts if someone was "following" you like this? Milo is so incredibly nosy that she has the nerve to ask if Kate and the kids are awake. Good grief -- that woman (or man) needs help and serious intervention. Who does this?
I don't think the Irish fan is going to get the hint from Kate's last tweet. He'll just keep going with those stupid numbers trivia things and jokes. Kate doesn't give a darn but he's not smart enough to see it. She really does know how to attract them, doesn't she?
Last year on Memorial Day, I remember us discussing the movie "Taking Chance". I have always wanted to see it.
For those of you who have Verizon Fios, you can watch the movie for free without having an HBO subscription. Verizon is having a free OnDemand marathon weekend through tomorrow, where you can watch shows from channels that you don't subscribe to.
For those of you interested, you can also watch "Behind the Candelabra" the HBO movie about Liberace, starring Michael Douglas and Matt Damon, without an HBO subscription.
Actually Milo did tweet a pic of her husband once standing with his newly acquired motorcycle. The "haters" roundly made fun of him.
Kate actually remembers what Memorial Day is about:
kateplusmy8
A fun family day to remember those who selflessly sacrifice(d) themselves for our freedom&safety...đŸ‡ºđŸ‡¸ #respect #thankyou #GodblesstheUSA
Color me surprised, but I'll give her credit for mentioning it.
If I recall, with her appearance on CWS, there wasn't anything else on tv that night, plus Kendra Wilkinson is "current" and people know of her. With the other two CWS shows, there was major tv competition, I can't remember what, start of American idol? Basketball playoffs? So much of tv ratings depends on other things - what else is on, the weather, if there's a big news story, not so much about who is on anymore.
Back when CWS first aired I pulled the ratings from some of Kendra's recent episodes of her reality shows. If I recall they were all getting the same or more than CWS. Based on that, I would tend to give Kendra a good deal of the credit for the ratings. Of course her sheeple don't consider the Kendra factor just like they didn't consider the other celebs when Kate was on DWTS.
Improbable Dreams said... 14
LOL, Tweet-le Dee at 10!
Re: an expenses-paid vacation to the pair with the highest ratings. Am I remembering that contest right?
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I do vaguely recall something about a trip to Paris but can't remember any of the details. :(
I just remember Kate's fans giving Kate the credit for the show having "high" ratings ignoring the fact that Kendra has about 1,850,000 more fans than Kate has.
LB said... 16
I think it's creepy the way Milo was helping Kate invite the public to view pictures of the children. She has turned jt in a full freak circus show and she is the co-grand master (what do you call the guy who shouts into the bull horn?) Ironic she has no problem helping someone else shove these pictures in our faces but she will not post pictures of her own children, her husband and herself. She is a major hypocrite if you ask me
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The circus person with the bullhorn is known as a barker. Milo fits that description perfectly.
From Wikipedia:
"A barker is a person who attempts to attract patrons to entertainment events, such as a circus or funfair, by exhorting passing public, describing attractions of show and emphasizing variety, novelty, beauty, or some other feature believed to incite listeners to attend entertainment"
In the last 24 hours, Milo tweeted the link to the pictures of the kids FIVE times!! She only tweeted about the book TWICE.
I would definitely say her "bark" is worse than her bite. Does she email Kate and tell that she doesn't have to worry about promoting the book, her site, etc? Wouldn't be surprised if she signed the emails with "Milo and Jack has got your back".
Kendra is the only "current" star I have ever seen on CWS. Her shows get high ratings. Even men will watch a wife swap show just to get a look at her. Kendra was the big draw there, not Kate. The proof is in the numbers. Kendra's shows get several million viewers per episode. Kate's dropped to 680,000 before it was cancelled. Kate's cruise was cancelled due to lack of interest. I bet Kendra could sell out a celeb cruise. She does seem like she'd be a lot of fun. Kate's new cookbook has sold a couple hundred copies in the first two months. Her last topped out at 11,000--a huge flop--and this one looks like it's going to be far worse. Kate's fans brag about how many copies they've ordered to give as gifts, so how many individual people have actually ordered it? I swear, if someone gives me that piece of garbage as a gift, I am going to be pretty ticked off, no matter what Milo says.
Kate just does not have the numbers. Her fans don't see that, but the TV execs do. That's what matters. Sorry, Milo. America does not love Kate.
I do vaguely recall something about a trip to Paris but can't remember any of the details. :(
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Tweet-le--There was a question on wiki answers about how much Wife Swap contestants get paid, which mention trips. I don't believe it applies to the celebrity version. I also think that answer was posted several years ago.
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_much_do_contestants_of_wife_swap_get_paid
She has turned jt in a full freak circus show and she is the co-grand master (what do you call the guy who shouts into the bull horn?) Ironic she has no problem helping someone else shove these pictures in our faces but she will not post pictures of her own children, her husband and herself.
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She reminds me of the pitchmen who would set up their booths on the Jersey shore boardwalk, hawking knives, giving away coupons for discounts on buffet dinners, or trying to get you to join a travel club.They'd yell to get your attention, and a small crowd would gather. Even those guys didn't tell you that you rocked a bikini, or have the nerve to ask you what you had for dinner, if your kids had showers, or what time you got up in the morning. Kate should have put an end to this a long time ago. She has done nothing (that we know of) to discourage her. In fact, Kate's enabling drove Milo to another level when she called out to her on national television. You never do that to an obsessive fan. It just pushes them even farther into delusion, thinking that they she/he is the chosen one, the favorite.
I think Milo enjoys being a circus freak show -- anything to be a martyr for Kate. She clearly needs help, but she's not getting it. Where this is all going to end is anyone's guess. What I don't understand is that her family doesn't intervene. Perhaps they know that there is nothing they can do...they've lived with her for so long, and Kate withdrawal would only send her over the edge.
I have to wonder if any of Kate's group of six die-hard fans are embarrassed yet because NOTHING has come of any BV lawsuit?
All that time sending in screen shots and poor, pitiful me stories...wasted.
I'm almost embarrassed FOR them. Almost.
Oh, a barker! I read her tweets this morning. Man, saying the children & looking at the pictures are 'our reasons to get up happy'. WHAT!?! Does she get off looking at Kate's pictures of the children? After all, she does have a picture of Kate in a swim top with boobs pushed up that I think she tweeted to Kate. What is seriously wrong with Mlo? It is getting too close to child porn, frankly. Look at the pictures and you will be happy! Happy about what, exactly?
Just dropping by to wish all of you a happy Memorial Day :o)
Thank you to all the brave men, and women that are serving, or have served in our military. Your sacrifices, and bravery will always be remembered , with deep gratitude.
Love,
Pink
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 3h
@Kateplusmy8 Just checked my #SweetMeter this mornin & this group was at the top .>>> http://kateplusmy8.com/kates-kids/ Ur reasons 2get up happy! :)
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What Milo is saying is YOUR reasons to get up. Ur=your. More hawking of the website. Maybe Milo likes hopeless cases?? Hmmmm.
http://www.realitytvkids.com/2012/11/veterans-day.html
Here's the post we did on Taking Chance. Everyone have a good day.
Kate is a twit said... 27 Thanks for the link. It said:
"A premiere/special of a season also gets a hefty bonus (like an all expense paid trip for the family to Tokyo, Paris, etc.) from the network after the show airs and the rating meets the top 5 of the best watched show of the season."
Was the Kate/Kendra considered a premiere/special?
Wishing everyone observing Memorial Day has a wonderful day!
I have to wonder if any of Kate's group of six die-hard fans are embarrassed yet because NOTHING has come of any BV lawsuit?
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What happened to Glassman's lawsuit against Kate?
What I don't understand is that her family doesn't intervene. Perhaps they know that there is nothing they can do...they've lived with her for so long, and Kate withdrawal would only send her over the edge.
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Kate seems to be her reason for living, and that's really sad.
alicia_nicole91
celebrating my Memorial Day by watching old episodes of "Jon and Kate Plus 8." :) @Kateplusmy8
You've got to be kidding!
tcenchanted
@Kateplusmy8 Hi Kate, was actually taught by a man to grab those towels 4 windshield cleaning to grab hold of dirty pump. Hope it helps. :)
Brilliant! Absolute genius! Geez...
This so far is my laugh of the day. Goody sends this tweet to Kate, the cookbook author:
msgoody2shoes21
@Kateplusmy8 RT @LisaGrimmer1: Pulled Pork Recipe http://t.co/ZfHL3Oijtp(preview) These are delicious recipes that work well for any summer party!
I guess she doesn't know that one of the recipes included in Kate's cookbook is " Cara and Mady's Crock Pot Pulled Pork".
Oops!
Taking Chance is also airing on HBO several times today, and is also available OnDemand and at HBOGo.com, for those of you that subscribe to HBO.
Admin-thanks for the link to the discussion. I will have to reread it, after I watch the movie.
Just Down The Road said... 28
She has turned jt in a full freak circus show and she is the co-grand master (what do you call the guy who shouts into the bull horn?) Ironic she has no problem helping someone else shove these pictures in our faces but she will not post pictures of her own children, her husband and herself.
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She reminds me of the pitchmen who would set up their booths on the Jersey shore boardwalk
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She's a Carnival Barker.
Happy Memorial Day everyone!
taryncadore
@Kateplusmy8 I'm reading Letters to my Kids and I'm in tears.....such a sweet book. You are one hell of a mommy:))))
Or a mommy from hell, depending on how you look at it.
Regarding Milo. I don't believe she has a husband or kids. I'm not even sure she has dogs.
Why would you have to race home before Kate's birthday was over, before taking a pic of a puppy with a piece of paper with "Katie Irene" written on it? Couldn't you do that when you pick the pup up? In the car on the way home? Really odd.
I think two or three of Kate's fans are really very lonely people who have created interesting lives for themselves on the internet.
Their lives are perfect for a while, then go belly up. Perfect again, then belly up. Seems to be a pattern dependent on Kate Gosselin paying attention to them. When giving Kate PR gets a tweet, everyone does it. When being ill gets a tweet, everyone does it.
It also seems they can buy into their pretend life completely for a period of time, and then you can see through their tweets that they had a glimpse of their real life again and kind of freak out for a bit.
Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...
Kate is a twit said... 27 Thanks for the link. It said:
"A premiere/special of a season also gets a hefty bonus (like an all expense paid trip for the family to Tokyo, Paris, etc.) from the network after the show airs and the rating meets the top 5 of the best watched show of the season."
Was the Kate/Kendra considered a premiere/special?
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1. Kate/Kendra's CWS show was not part of a regular 'season'. It was one of 3 celeb specials. The quote from the wiki page in the link refers to regular families - not the celeb specials.
2. The Celeb Swap shows were not included in the competition for ratings, nor eligible for trips or prizes for the top episode.
I believe that wiki page info is from a couple of years ago when ABC was airing new episodes every season. They haven't done that in a few years now.
3. Don't believe everything you read on wiki. Anyone can contribute the info and it's quite often very far from accurate.
I think two or three of Kate's fans are really very lonely people who have created interesting lives for themselves on the internet.
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Why don't the non-fans on any of the blogs know Milo's identity? They know everything about all of the other die-hard sheeple. How could Milo have been so successful in keeping her ID such a secret? Heck, it's not even known if it's male or female.
Shelby said... 44
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I'm kinda glad Kate's not in the running for yet another free trip. Enough already.
Tweetle,
Re my comment #44 this page. I went back to the CWS wiki page you referenced and looked more carefully and finally clicked where it says 'answer history' and it shows the answers were first posted in '09 with followup questions in '10.
Fired Up 4 Kate Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 1m
@Kateplusmy8 So how was ur day? Stress free/carefree/lazy & just kickin back w/nothin 2do? Oh wait...I 4got you have 8 there! LOL
Fired Up 4 Kate Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 7m
@Kateplusmy8 Fun day grilling...bet we would find those recipes N ur new book? Pre-ordering #LoveIsIntheMix at http://kateplusmy8.com/pre-order-love-is-in-the-mix/
Does Milo know that she has eight kids there and they are not spending the day with Jon?
Gosh, but she's annoying. Worse than that fly that lives in your car and you just can't get rid of. You don't even have to toss it any crumbs. It's always there.
She's a Carnival Barker.
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And she won't stop barking. She keeps sending links to the kids' pajama pictures on Kate's blog There is something seriously wrong with that woman (or man or it).
miloandjack
@Kateplusmy8 Checked my #SweetMeter again! Sugar & spice and everything nice! >>> http://t.co/Hz4CKJ1Shx(preview) Its what Mom's live for! :)
I saw these 2 tweets on Kate's timeline and the last name sounded familiar:
JDizz @jackdems 23h
@Kateplusmy8 hi Kate! It's Jackie Demsko. How is everyone doing? School is almost done!
JDizz @jackdems 3h
@Kateplusmy8 hey kate it's Jackie Demsko
Turns out a Jim Demsko had also tweeted Kate on Saturday.
JimDemsko @JimmieTaco 25 May
@Kateplusmy8 Had great hummus in DC with jackie and thought of you guys.
pic.twitter.com/WQxosOTKsI
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 25 May
@JimmieTaco oh yum! I was thinking of Jackie the other day... We need another cooking afternoon I think...:)
So two days ago, when Jim Demsko tweeted Kate, Kate says that she had been thinking of Jackie. Yet, Jackie tweeted her twice in the last 24 hours, and Kate has not replied to her at all.
If she had been "just thinking about her", you would think she would jump at the chance to respond to her.
By the way, remember Officer Jim the guy who gave Kate a ride to that radio show last year to promote that local 5K she was doing? That's who Jim Demsko is, and apparently Jackie is his daughter.
From Kate's tweet to Jim, it looks like she has spent sometime with Jackie. I know she has mentioned the "teenage daughter of a friend"--that could possibly be who Jackie is. So I guess Kate does have some local "friends". Maybe Jim is Mr. Smith.
Who exactly does Milo think will see any of these PR tweets? She direct tweets K8, she doesn't follow anyone, no one is going to be searching twitter for the book or website. I'm not a twitter person so don't get everything, but isn't she just preaching to the tiny 6-person choir?
Not only does Milo post the links to G8 kids' pics and K8's cookbook pre-order, but those same links keep getting pasted here in this blog. Kind of sad...
Not only does Milo post the links to G8 kids' pics and K8's cookbook pre-order, but those same links keep getting pasted here in this blog. Kind of sad...
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But that doesn't mean that anyone here is going to her blog...I would think that those here are astute enough to realize that Milo is linking her blog to direct traffic to pre-order the cookbook. It's been discussed several times in the past few days how often Milo is pushing Kate's book for her by sending links to the photos of Kate's kids.
Zoe said... 51
Not only does Milo post the links to G8 kids' pics and K8's cookbook pre-order, but those same links keep getting pasted here in this blog. Kind of sad...
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Do you think anyone here clicks on anything that Milo links in her suck up tweets about Kate's book or blog? I surely don't.
For that matter, Kate's Twitter feed is DOA, so I don't think Milo gets hardly anyone to click through to Kate's blog, so that's no sad, it's great.
Kate posted new pictures of the kids on her website. These are of the tups swimming today. I've noticed that she isn't posting any pictures of Cara or Mady. I wonder if they've told her they don't want their pictures posted.
So now there's another thing that Milo will be tweeting about.
galindafied247
@Kateplusmy8 didn't know u had a webpage just spent an hr on it! LOVE IT! Lost 30 lbs and a lot of ur stuff was helpful especially fitness!
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I haven't been to Kate's webpage lately. Is there anything new under fitness? All I remember was her 2011 marathon prep and a list of songs (or artists) she listens to while running. Has she updated it with "helpful" info about fitness?
"Do you think anyone here clicks on anything that Milo links in her suck up tweets about Kate's book or blog? I surely don't.
For that matter, Kate's Twitter feed is DOA, so I don't think Milo gets hardly anyone to click through to Kate's blog, so that's no sad, it's great."
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Everything that Milo has been tweeting lately is a link to her blog. Nobody here is gullible enough to click on those links. She's making a fool of herself.
@LaurenHess I wondered how they swam in cold water too... #lifeofakid
But wait -- yesterday Kate said it was a day of this and that, and bikinis. If Kate didn't swim, then who wore the bikinis?
What I find amusing is that Kate said GN an hour ago, but hangs around for another hour just to RT the praises sent her way and to repeat the link to the swim photos! She is desperate to get people to that blog!
The episode of Cake Boss tonight was filmed right after Super Storm Sandy. every time I hear SSS I think of how very sick Kate is. Makes my stomach turn upside down.
I lost my house in Katrina and that still hurts. Kate's remark last year made me want to puke.
Anyway, Happy Memorial Day everyone and especially to the men and women that keep us safe to enjoy life in the land of the free. Thank you!
Kate posted new pictures of the kids on her website. These are of the tups swimming today.
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I don't think that was from today. The sky is too blue in those photos. This afternoon was overcast and cloudy. The pics must have been from Saturday or Sunday's polar bear plunge.
She's really desperate in posting these photos to get her cookbook sold. What will she come up with next? What's left? Menu Mondays, Tuesdays, Wednesday, Thursdays...?
Kate totally re-wrote a tweet and added a link to her webpage when she retweeted!
Original tweet...
galindafied247
@Kateplusmy8 didn't know u had a webpage just spent an hr on it! LOVE IT! Lost 30 lbs and a lot of ur stuff was helpful especially fitness!
Kate's RT...
kateplusmy8
RT @galindafied247 @Kateplusmy8 ur webpage.. spent an hr on it! LOVE IT!Lost 30 lbs & alot was helpful esp fitness! http://t.co/lLIAaeYBWJ(preview)
Her only marketing plan for her book appears to be get people to go to her web site. Someone else says it's a bait and switch tactic and it's so true! She never links to the actual post she's talking about, she takes you to the main site where the first thing you see is a book ad. Then if you want to you can muddle around and try to find whatever pics or blog post she was talking about. A normal employer would put her on probation or fire her for such tactics. At the end of the day some may be fine with it, but most readers will appreciate honesty a lot more.
At the end of the day some may be fine with it, but most readers will appreciate honesty a lot more.
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Yes, and the thing is that most people can see right through this tactic and it makes her look even more desperate. She's fooling nobody.
I think people these days are much less gullible, more skeptical, and much more savvy when it comes to salesmanship. That just comes from the experiences of those before us who taught us. In the old days some snake oil salesman or traveling healer might scam people of thousands. This just doesn't usually happen as much anymore. It happens, yes, but not nearly as much. There are also a lot more regulations. Most people sniff out an obvious rat when it comes to tactics Kate uses. Kate is peddling something that worked in 1890. This crap doesn't work anymore, lady.
There are also a lot more regulations. Most people sniff out an obvious rat when it comes to tactics Kate uses. Kate is peddling something that worked in 1890. This crap doesn't work anymore, lady.
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Judging from her cookbook pre-orders, I think she'll find that out pretty darn soon, all by herself, even though Milo will tweet positivity and act as her cheerleader and #1 PR person. In the end, Kate's poor marketing skills will be her downfall. Very few people are buying what she's trying to sell because, as you said, the days of snake oil salesmen going door to door are long past.
Very few people are buying what she's trying to sell because, as you said, the days of snake oil salesmen going door to door are long past.
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And yet, Theresa Caputo is still raking in the big bucks. TLC is shameless.
Susie Cincinnati said... 58
Kate totally re-wrote a tweet and added a link to her webpage when she retweeted!
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Shameless (great SHOtime series, btw!) when you RT and actually alter the original so that you can fit your website link into it to drive people there. The original tweeter DID NOT do that! How can you RT and make it look like the tweeter linked to your website when they didn't?
She's falsifying tweets!
I'm sure it's not particularly illegal, as in actionable, but sheesh, how low can Kate stoop, now that she's changing tweets to sell her book?
Is she *that* desperate?
She's really desperate in posting these photos to get her cookbook sold. What will she come up with next? What's left? Menu Mondays, Tuesdays, Wednesday, Thursdays...?
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Anyone with a lick of savvy knows darn well that Kate could post a link directly to the post she tweets about, and not to her website's home page where her book advertisement takes up prime real estate.
But wait -- yesterday Kate said it was a day of this and that, and bikinis. If Kate didn't swim, then who wore the bikinis?
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Kate has let the little girls wear bikinis for years now, so it could be them.
I think mediums are the one last popular thing of yesteryear that people are willing to go along with even if it smells fishy. People desperately want to communicate with loved ones. I think it's just worth the risk that it could be a scam on the small chance maybe it's not and maybe they will hear from someone special to them. Can't blame them. Does anyone think the mother of one of the rescued kidnapped girls died of a broken heart? Didn't a medium tell her her child was gone?
I thought people were just snarking when they post what Milo is posting. I seriously doubt most people are saying oh Milo posted a link let me click! What is there to see at this point? I rarely go to her site, I did look at the bedroom pics out of concern but hadn't been to her site in awhile before then. I haven't seen the pool pics. Kate's bait and switch plan to work requires that people actually buy the book. It does no good to bait and switch if people don't follow through.
Judging by the orders, I think we can safely say most people are not falling for it. If she were SMART, she would make the book some kind of permanent sidebar above the fold. Then she could link to the actual posts she is talking about without it seeming so darn obvious she's just peddling the kids to try to get orders, and without being dishonest and baiting and switching.
Oh, how lovely. Going from nightgowns to swimsuits and she does not blink an eye! Who cares if we missed the freaking pictures?!?!
I see that Milo was reading here yesterday. She deleted that tweet telling the world that the kids was everyone's reason to get up happy! Um no. They are not my reason for getting up nor do I need them to 'feel happy'.
Does anyone think the mother of one of the rescued kidnapped girls died of a broken heart? Didn't a medium tell her her child was gone?
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Sylvia Brown told her Amanda was gone. Brown's response to Amanda being alive all these years later is that she was glad Amanda was alive and focused on that, not that her mother went to her grave thinking her daughter met a tragic ending.
Brown has been gifted alright... with a forked, silver tongue and cloven hooves.
I remember Brown on a radio show when the Chilean (I think it was Chili) miners were trapped in a collapsed mine, saying "live", that they were dead. Very shortly after, it was discovered that they were alive, and she had a lot of back peddling to do.
Someone said it would be bad if Kate posted private pics of the kids in bathing suits ( she has done so before) Well, she did it again- to deflect from criticism of the PJ ones, or in your face, haterz? Plus why do they have to swim when it's cold; there will be plenty of time. We in the NorthEast are expecting a heatwave later this week.If I had a POOL , I would swim in it then!
So today Kate is back to her 'work grind stone' -sic.
Ugh LB. I just don't understand it. They are STRANGERS. You should not use a stranger's kids as your reason to be happy and get out of bed. It's just not normal. Nor is such a freakish interest in their pics and what they are up to and constantly demanding info on them normal. A normal person should think, someone else's kids I don't even know, who cares? What about her own alleged kids (I am in the camp that doesn't believe that either). They're not her reason to be happy?
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I’m very worried about the love affair her fans and whoever else are having with the pictures. I have not visited her website or seen the pictures. Kate hasn’t imposed boundaries with the younger children because she knows they are the draw but what will happen as they get older and start to resist like Cara and Mady has? Why the CONSTANT hawking of pictures to get people to click on her website? Either she is trying to market the children again since no one is asking her to come on a tv or food show for a recipe demo or she needs the money from the ads from her website.
I have a gut feeling that Kate has not told the younger children the truth behind the reason for having them pose and take pictures for ‘memories’ and explain what she is doing with these pictures. I believe they do not understand what/how her blog deals with and that the pictures will be seen by EVERYONE who visits her website. I don’t know if they understand what ‘everyone’ means to them. Hopefully someone will get to them soon to explain to them in a way they can grasp that concept so they will have the power & ability to decline having a picture taken.
Agree- think Milo is a catfish sort of person. Call Neev!
The toy truck in the yard was a real red flag for me. Sure, it COULD happen, it could still be kicking around all these years, but I think most 17 year old boys are having friends in and out. Even a lazy teenager would pick up a baby toy like that and throw it in the basement or the garbage lest his buddies see it. Plus, that's a toy for the 10 and under crowd. It's been sitting there SEVEN plus years in the baking Southern sun and looks as good as it does? No one moved it to garden, to trim, to rake? Suspicious at best.
I see that Milo was reading here yesterday. She deleted that tweet telling the world that the kids was everyone's reason to get up happy! Um no. They are not my reason for getting up nor do I need them to 'feel happy'.
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Milo didn't tweet that the kids were "everyone's reasons" to be happy. As I commented yesterday:
Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said... 32
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 3h
@Kateplusmy8 Just checked my #SweetMeter this mornin & this group was at the top .>>> http://kateplusmy8.com/kates-kids/ Ur reasons 2get up happy! :)
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What Milo is saying is YOUR reasons to get up. Ur=your. More hawking of the website. Maybe Milo likes hopeless cases?? Hmmmm.
Oh see when she said "your" I thought she was talking to everyone in general. But maybe that's not what she meant. Still creepy in any case. I think that's an uncomfortable thing to say. A well rounded life often includes children but should include many other things like work, volunteering, church if that's your thing, hobbies, exercise, travel, perhaps a significant other, friends and family. I think it's dangerous when you become so obsessed with your kids they're your only reason to get out of bed. And, it does not make you superior just because your entire life revolves 100% around your kids. Lots of people are good parents and do other things too besides parent.
Ur reasons 2get up happy! :)
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If I recall correctly, when the kids were babies and toddlers, they were no reason for Kate to get up AT ALL. She got out of bed when she felt like getting out of bed. Meanwhile, Jon and other people took care of the children.
No, she was definitely telling the public these kids were their reason to get up happy. Why else include the link? That was an attempt on doing PR for Kate.
I read that tweet as her telling US that the kids were YOUR reason for getting up happy. But then again, her way of talking can be read a few different ways.
If she wanted to tell Kate that these children were her reason for getting up happy then that is a very depressing thing to do to another mother. To tell me that? Getting too close to personal for someone who has never met Kate.
I think people these days are much less gullible, more skeptical, and much more savvy when it comes to salesmanship. That just comes from the experiences of those before us who taught us. In the old days some snake oil salesman or traveling healer might scam people of thousands. This just doesn't usually happen as much anymore. It happens, yes, but not nearly as much. There are also a lot more regulations.
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Hi Admin,
I understand your point, but I must disagree. I think technology has allowed the previous small-scale snake-oil sales tactics to explode to astronomical proportions on a global scale.
You would hope that people would not be as gullible as they once were, but human nature is still human nature, and millions of folks are ready to believe in bogus products for weight loss, and health and fitness, and sexual performance, and hair growth, and memory loss, and home improvement, and insurance, and even cures for cancer and serious illnesses such as diabetes, heart disease and Alzheimers.
Ponzi schemes still exist because people, even supposedly well-educated people, are willing to believe what others tell them despite the signs that point to trouble.
There will always be unscrupulous and evil people ready and willing to take advantage of others and, despite regulations and knowledge and even experience, there is no limit to the number of people who are available to be taken in by these scams.
The scams of today just happen to be perpetrated by people using more sophisticated methods.
So while we no longer have Bayer aspirin with Heroin in it, we still have innumerable products and devices being hawked and purchased despite there being no scientific evidence that they perform as advertised.
Most definitely still creepy. I'm not sure about Milo making up a family, etc. yet. I did go and look at the picture of the truck she posted. And I agree, if it's been out in the baking sun and heavy rains I'm not sure there would still be dirt clinging to the sides of the bed of the truck.
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lol, agree! Kate said she HAD to sleep until eight, have her coffee mixture made by Jon- milk, cream, coffee-mate, coffee measured precisely acc to recipe posted- then and only then she got the kids up who were clambering at the baby-gate with weighty diapers.Then the twins entertained them until she made breakfast which was dry cereal and Juicy Juice, then they got dressed, played, early grape & cracker lunch, 4 hour nap with J&K video on. Maybe Nana Janet or Ashley/Carla or Joan to help. Wait for Jon to return and 'take over'
What a stimulating life for toddlers.
The reason for those kids swimming in cold weather is twofold: 1) she needs fodder for her mediocre blog and 2) she cannot think of anything besides that, cleaning the basement and watching reruns of the 'show' to do with them on a holiday. No friends, no family no trips to a museum, park, anything like that. Official line - we have a pool (see world) and you will swim in it so mommy can continue to pimp you out. Today she is probably exhaustedish.
Her Twitter feed is, from what I read here, DOA - she has Milo the one person book publicity person, Ms. Goody with her profanity and anger issues and irishfan, who comes across as a really creepy perve. Oh and a few others who need her advice on how to pour cereal and spend their weekends watching reruns. School will soon be over and the G8 will be spending another long, long summer with only each other for company. They are too old for this isolated life with a crazy mother. And I doubt even Deanna is still around for another madcap summer beach vacay, again they only spend time with each other. It really is pathetic.
Tucker good point. There are a lot of weight loss and get rich scams out there people fall for. Let me put it this way, scams today do need to be a lot more sophisticated than take Doc Cather's elixir and you'll experience a miracle cure! It doesn't cut it to just say oh come see a pic of my kids in bed.......oops there's an ad for my book, GOTCHA!!! It's gonna take a little more than that.
librarylady said... 51
Who exactly does Milo think will see any of these PR tweets? She direct tweets K8, she doesn't follow anyone, no one is going to be searching twitter for the book or website. I'm not a twitter person so don't get everything, but isn't she just preaching to the tiny 6-person choir?
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Those who follow Milo will see her tweets. So she's pretty much hawking Kate's website to the same people over and over. However, when Kate retweets Milo's tweet, Kate's followers see it. Milo is doing Kate's work for her.
It doesn't cut it to just say oh come see a pic of my kids in bed.......oops there's an ad for my book, GOTCHA!!! It's gonna take a little more than that.
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Absolutely! KG's biggest problem is that she is the victim of her greatest success, which was showing the world how unlikable and lazy and untalented and inauthentic she is. At this point, only a handful of her most devoted worshippers will fall for her tricks.
Formerly duped, I agree! Let's call Nev! Another example of how fun this blog is, I never would have watched Catfish the movie or the TV show without the discussion here. And I enjoyed both very much.
Joy, same here. And oops, misspelled Nev's name.
btw I notice you watch The Amazing Race! We love it. I was so glad Max and Katie did not win although was hoping the You-tubers would be in the final. Jet and Cord fans.Found out recently an Amazing Racer started Toms shoes for the benefit of third world kids with no shoes.
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Tucker good point. There are a lot of weight loss and get rich scams out there people fall for.
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To wit: people are still out there supporting Nigerian princesses! It's Nigeria's cottage industry with a keyboard and internet connection.
It doesn't cut it to just say oh come see a pic of my kids in bed.......oops there's an ad for my book, GOTCHA!!! It's gonna take a little more than that.
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It is so much vaster and deeper with Kate-- distrust and doubt goes back YEARS. No one believes her schtick anymore. We know the Juicy Juice is free, the Gymboree (insert how many other brands here) clothing was free, we know all the trips, vacations and parks were paid for by TLC or donated, we know that chefs were feeding her children most ofthe time, we know. WE KNOW.
The jig is up.
I want to add, that as I've mentioned before, I had a food blog for a couple years and I think once, ONCE, I named a recipe eponymously, and I had a good deal of originals. Maybe twice I named titularly, for Grandma or MIL.
It's a cheap hook.
I don't
The toy truck in the yard was a real red flag for me. Sure, it COULD happen, it could still be kicking around all these years, but I think most 17 year old boys are having friends in and out.
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That clearly looked like a staged photo. Who leaves a toy truck in the yard for ten years without moving it? It's metal -- it would have rusted, it would at least show signs of the elements throughout those years. That one looked fairly new, like it might have been a boy's truck in another yard.
I see that Milo was reading here yesterday. She deleted that tweet telling the world that the kids was everyone's reason to get up happy!
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She does that quite often, even though she claims that she doesn't read this "cesspool of hate." I've gone on her timeline, looking for specific tweets that were discussed here, and lo and behold, those are the very ones that were deleted -- tweets before and after are still there, but the controversial ones are gone.
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 6h
Good Tuesday Morning. Back2the school&work grind stone... But not for long! Summer is just around the corner&even MOM can't wait! #excited
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Why does Kate just rub working moms' noses in it at every turn? Does she think summer break means a break for most moms? It's "grindstone" 12 months a year for them. No sleeping in, plus the burden of how to arrange care for their kids while mom is at work.
Sleeping in and swimming in your very own concrete pond all summer long is not what most moms do.
But, do spend your hard-earned money on Kate's cookbook!!!!!!!!!!!
She's got to maintain a lifestyle of summer leisure, Manhattan stylists and travel, dontcha know?
Does anyone know if GWOP is still open for business? There's only been one post since the end of April.
Now other members of the fold are following Milo's lead and tweeting links to the photos of the kids. Monkey see, Monkey do!
nicole29997801
@Kateplusmy8 wow! Your kids are growing up so fast! Even Hanna has braces now haha:) can you post a recent pic of cara and Mady too?
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NO! NO! NO! Does it ever occur to these people that maybe, just maybe, the older girls do not want to have their photos published?
galindafied247
@Kateplusmy8 will ur cookbook have ingredients accessible to ppl who dont have health food stores?
LOL!
Noticed this am that TLC's Summer Sizzles season is kicking off, and darn, they forgot that K8 was more than available. I do wonder what year the sheeple will finally understand that this is not an accident.
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Now other members of the fold are following Milo's lead and tweeting links to the photos of the kids. Monkey see, Monkey do!
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They're manic tweeting links to her website over there! They look like idiots, but they are too dumb to know it (or care). Milo is binge tweeting. It's quite funny to watch, actually!
They're manic tweeting links to her website over there! They look like idiots, but they are too dumb to know it (or care). Milo is binge tweeting. It's quite funny to watch, actually!
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I'm not seeing what you're seeing. Milo has tweeted 4 times in 3 hours. Are you looking at twazzup that repeats the last tweet continually until a new tweet shows up?
formerly duped I also love Amazing Race and I was very happy with who won this year. I liked the YouTubers also and that's who my daughter was rooting for.
Re scams: especially in rural counties in my area, the sheriff's department and social services get together to do safety fairs for senior citizens. they discuss identity theft, investment fraud, common scams that may especially target the elderly, and the not-so-elderly. There are still many people who will fall for any variety of scams. often these crimes are not reported because the victims are so embarrassed they fell for it, they don't reveal any problems to family or friends. These are the folks who continue to send money for fees when they are told they have won the Canadian lottery or some other prize. That they never get after sending thousands for taxes and fees.
Another good one from her #1 adult fanatic:
@Kateplusmy8 If producers/networks R draggin their feet on recognizing ur talents...do it urself! Start small YouTube...then K8Productions!
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Kate has talents? What talents?
MiloandJack
@Kateplusmy8 If producers/networks R draggin their feet on recognizing ur talents...do it urself! Start small YouTube...then K8Productions!
MiloandJack
@Kateplusmy8 Only thing U lack is TIME...U have the talents, the drive, the work ethic! U can do it! I believe in YOU Kate! :)
Milo, you read here. Use common sense. Try some logical thinking. Producers aren't draggin their feet on recognizing her talents. She has none. Her kids were (and I use the past tense) her ticket to fame. They are not cute toddlers anymore. With the exception of a few people who want them on television for their own amusement, nobody would watch. She had a show. Producers were wise enough to pull the plus when ratings were down. It's all about the Benjamins for them. They don't care that a few obsessed fans want to see Kate in a bikini. Without Jon in the episodes, she was nothing. It was the dynamics of the family that sparked interest -- NOT Kate's talent (or lack of it).
You Tube? Are you serious? Who, other than a few sheeple, would even watch videos on there? This family should not be used for the amusement of others, no matter how much it would satisfy your Kate fetish. Get this through your head, Milo. She has TIME. What she doesn't have is talent or any other attribute that would make a Kate show attractive to any network. She doesn't have drive and she doesn't have work ethic. She wants everything done for her, and given to her. She uses you and the sheeple to send traffic to her blog. Producers and networks are far wiser than sheeple when it comes to knowing what will sell.
Heck, she can't even sell her cookbook. Just because Milo believes in her isn't going to get a network to sit up and take notice. Milo, in the whole scheme of things, you and the sheeple are NOTHING. You can believe in her until the cows come home, you can tweet positivity until your fingers are permanently locked and they have to be pried open, but it doesn't mean a thing. Put away those rose-colored glasses and see things as they really are.
What work grindstone does she have her nose to, rhetorically speaking of course? By the standards of real working moms (and dads), she is just an insufferable biotch whenever she dares to imply she works.
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Another good one from her #1 adult fanatic:
@Kateplusmy8 If producers/networks R draggin their feet on recognizing ur talents...do it urself! Start small YouTube...then K8Productions!
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Kate has talents? What talents?
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I have no idea of what talents she is talking about other than exploiting her kids by photos and blog non-stop. Is that a talent? Don't think so.
The cookbook is clearly not doing well, so she is sinking to all other measures, by relying on her kids. Sad but true.
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nicole29997801
@Kateplusmy8 wow! Your kids are growing up so fast! Even Hanna has braces now haha:) can you post a recent pic of cara and Mady too?
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NO! NO! NO! Does it ever occur to these people that maybe, just maybe, the older girls do not want to have their photos published?
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Taking it a step further and guessing NONE of the kids want to have their photos published. The tups are probably still afraid to tell her NO while clearly Mady and Cara have indicated such, as they are more mature and savvy. And probably get a break with all of the "chores" they do for Kate. Showers, lunches, watching them, helping with homework. As Mady said, all they have ever know is work.
The picture taking reeks of desperation, and is sad at best. Post pictures of yourself Kate and leave the kids out of it. Privacy- they did not sign up for this- you did!
I was just wondering, did anyone notice when Deanna was hugging Kate at the end meet of CWS, how stiff Kate got. I even felt awkward for Deanna. You could tell Kate didn't like it at all. Heck, she didn't like it when Jon hugged her. The crew mentioned the lack of lovey dovey between the two on a couple of the episodes.
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Sherry Baby, everything you said is right on! And "Satisfying Milo's Kate fetish"--I love it!
You know, I think Kate doesn't really care how well her krookbook sells as long as the pre-sales are enough for publishing and she gets her tv media/book signing/travel with Steve gigs for it in the Fall.
She's not a talented writer by any means and, based on her crappy Stir articles, I don't foresee her being able to write interesting books on any subject that doesn't include her kids (which is what all her books have been about so far.)
I wonder how much longer it will take for her to realize she is a talentless hack?
What exactly did the kids do the be attached to the cook book, other than live and eat her cooking? What other choice did they have and why must Kate post photos of them constantly?
Insane to do this to her kids constantly, never mind the context. Why is this a good idea, IF she is such a BIG celebrity on her own?
OrangeCrusher1 said... 105
What work grindstone does she have her nose to, rhetorically speaking of course? By the standards of real working moms (and dads), she is just an insufferable biotch whenever she dares to imply she works.
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Kate must be referring to the "work" she does to get the kids to the bus in the morning and then the "work" to pick them up in the afternoon. That must be so hard for her.
And when the kids are in school, if she wants coffee or anything done around the house, she can't yell at them to do it for her. That must be so hard for her.
Such is the hard hard life that Kate lives when her kids are in school all day.
Sherry Baby, everything you said is right on! And "Satisfying Milo's Kate fetish"--I love it!
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Thanks. Milo's off-the-wall a$$ kissing is really starting to tick me off, and I'm usually a very laid-back, very calm person, so it takes quite a bit to make me come unglued! :-) I wish she'd come out and admit that she has more than a girl crush on Kate and get it over with. Or, if it's a male catfisher, then come clean. This lust for Kate is just so bizarre, and she (or he) won't stop. I just can't believe that nobody can call out this person for who it really is. For what it's worth, I don't think it's Kate. Even she isn't that crazy.
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MiloandJack
@Kateplusmy8 Only thing U lack is TIME...U have the talents, the drive, the work ethic! U can do it! I believe in YOU Kate! :)
Milo, you read here. Use common sense. Try some logical thinking. Producers aren't draggin their feet on recognizing her talents. She has none. Her kids were (and I use the past tense) her ticket to fame. .... Get this through your head, Milo. She has TIME. What she doesn't have is talent or any other attribute that would make a Kate show attractive to any network. She doesn't have drive and she doesn't have work ethic. She wants everything done for her, and given to her. ... Heck, she can't even sell her cookbook.
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It is just crazy that Milo and the other few fans keep insisting that Kate is so so busy every day.
She has NO job (a weekly 3 paragrah blog is NOT a real job). She hires help to cook, clean, etc and even care for the kids. And Jon has the kids at least every other weekend.
What does Kate do everyday ???
Even by Kate's own tweets, everyone can see she can not fill up a day.
And I ask every working mother out there. When does the summer mean that the "work...grind stone" is over, as Kate tweeted this morning???
Kate Gosselin@Kateplusmy8
Good Tuesday Morning. Back2the school&work grind stone... But not for long! Summer is just around the corner&even MOM can't wait! #excited
Not me. I now have to coordinate and plan summer care, camps, schedules, car pooling, and all the other activities for my kids while I still have to go to work every day.
Kate can't wait for school to be over because the kids will be home to take care of her while she sleeps in every morning.
Every episode showed how lazy Kate was on her realist reality show. I feel sorry for the kids when they don't have school and have to stay home with her all summer.
Here's a reason the "haters" reacted as they did when Kate tweeted the picture of Mady in Kate's stilettos:
Mara Wilson On Why Child Stars Go Crazy: Former Child Actor Offers An Insider's Perspective
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/28/mara-wilson-child-stars-crazy_n_3347953.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000003
excerpt:
"When I was 12 years old, I made the mistake of looking myself up on the Internet ... One of the things I found was a foot fetish website dedicated to child actresses. Now, at the time, I thought this was hilarious ... Then, two or three years ago, I was talking to a friend and casually mentioned the foot fetish thing. Her eyes went wide. 'So, basically, you were on a child porn site?'"
Noticed this am that TLC's Summer Sizzles season is kicking off, and darn, they forgot that K8 was more than available. 99
I wonder if Kate has tried this?
http://www.tlc.com/tv-shows/casting-call.htm
Mara Wilson is another child star whom seems to have her head on straight.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/28/mara-wilson-child-stars-crazy_n_3347953.html?utm_hp_ref=celebrity
This is an excerpt, which could also describe the Gosselin kids:
"Adults know that infatuation is fleeting, but kids don't understand this. A year in a kid's life seems like an eternity, and they think anything happening now will happen forever. Years of adulation and money and things quickly become normal, and then, just as they get used to it all, they hit puberty -- which is a serious job hazard when your job is being cute," she writes.
This is a longer article written by Mara Wilson on child stars. Very interesting reading.
http://www.cracked.com/blog/7-reasons-child-stars-go-crazy-an-insiders-perspective/
Didn't Admin do a whole post on Mara? I think so!
She's not a talented writer by any means and, based on her crappy Stir articles, I don't foresee her being able to write interesting books on any subject that doesn't include her kids (which is what all her books have been about so far.)
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You know that she can't write. I know that she can't write, anyone with experience in writing knows that her blogs are a disaster, but the fans don't know that because they have no writing ability and very poor reading comprehension. This is not to be nasty, but it's a fact.
They think she's a talented writer because in their eyes it's great, and if they are enamored by her blogs and believe her to be a best-selling author, then that's what she is. They don't see her blogs as an embarrassment, but rather as the work of a gifted writer. Mediocre writing is all that they know and can understand.
Mara, your are brilliant. Freaking brilliant. And have more common sense in your little finger..
She will be our next post as soon as I get a second!
Yes, Admin did a post on Mara in April 2012. But the current article says a lot more than she did before.
http://www.realitytvkids.com/2012/04/child-actor-mara-wilson-film-acting-is.html
Admin and others--Make sure you read the full article at Cracked.com. The Huff Post article just has excerpts from it. I also love her use of pictures. She shows she has a good head on her shoulders, plus a sense of humor.
Here again is the link to the cracked.com article.
http://www.cracked.com/blog/7-reasons-child-stars-go-crazy-an-insiders-perspective_p2/
She did..it's right on the sidebar.
http://www.realitytvkids.com/2012/04/child-actor-mara-wilson-film-acting-is.html
Fired Up 4 Kate@MiloandJack5h
@msgoody2shoes21 @CJWhodunit @Kateplusmy8 Kate is a #Goldmine of wisdom/advice/rolemodel/example 2others N life/parenting/health/cooking! :)
Amanda Iowa says: Somebody else thinks that Milo has a life-size statue in her house with an altar in front of it??? Sjeesh Milo, get a life, Kate is a normal mom......not a Saint.
Love Mara. Wonder if the same is true for Broadway kids or in other entertainment jobs? The kids may not be as recognizable but the same situations may exist backstage and at home.
I read the whole thing. Anyone who thinks they want to put their kid on T.V. should be required to meet with Mara first.
And I find her even more valuable since her experience was overall positive. She's not a bitter child star out to get her parents or others. Her parents actually discouraged her from acting. Even when nothing was wrong with what she went through, it was STILL wrong, as she explains so well. What she is trying to tell people is I don't care what laws or protections you have in place (and protections are good of course) the bottom line is you simply cannot mitigate against the things she is talking about. For instance, we cannot make a law that will protect an adorable child star from becoming a not-so-cute teen with braces, glasses and zits. That just HAPPENS and it's so rough on kids.
For reasons like that, kids do not belong in this world. Not for long anyway.
I honestly don't think another former child star has been able to articulate as well as she has what is wrong with this business.
TWEET exactly!!!
Yes, any child's imagine no matter how innocent could be used by some freak. But all the more dangerous when you're a child star attracting a lot of attention to begin with (Mara explained that was a site for CELEB kids. See?), and all the more dangerous when the pictures involve things like bedrooms, bathing suits, and young girls in high heels. The simplest solution to prevent strangers from misusing your kids' pictures is to never give them access in the first place. And if your child is a celebrity, I think you need to be even more careful. For all we know maybe the Gosselin kids ARE on sites like that. But normal people haven't looked for it to know that for sure.
Luke, spot on. This woman is so insulting. And yeah of course the summer is a joy for her when she has her slave labor finally home all day to wait on her. Many people who run very good blogs, web sites and/or write cookbooks have other different full time jobs. They manage somehow. Few people actually make a full time living at it and even then they put far and away ten times more work into it than the pathetic limited offering from Kate.
For someone who doesn't really work, her outdated, coming soon web site with all its links problems and so on is just pathetic. I would expect that from someone who actually works. Not someone whose site IS their job.
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@Kateplusmy8 Sometimes the jewels of this world remain unnoticed/hidden 4 a while! But U lady R coming of age! U have so much 2give! :)
The anguish of unrequited love. Perhaps this is why she announces it to all who will listen:
“To burn with desire and keep quiet about it is the greatest punishment we can bring on ourselves.”
Amanda Iowa says: Somebody else thinks that Milo has a life-size statue in her house with an altar in front of it??? Sjeesh Milo, get a life, Kate is a normal mom......not a Saint.
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Milo, take a cold shower. Your lust is showing, and it's not a pretty sight.
The simplest solution to prevent strangers from misusing your kids' pictures is to never give them access in the first place.
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Exactly, and that's what is so darn frustrating. Kate isn't stupid, but I don't understand why she just doesn't get it. She has to know that tweeting photos of a pre-teen in heels, while innocent to many people, in the wrong hands becomes a foot fetish. You THINK before you post this, and ask yourself, "Is this really necessary or is this bad judgment here?" Something in her brain wiring just doesn't allow her to do this, and I don't think her narcissism is the sole culprit.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 126
I read the whole thing. Anyone who thinks they want to put their kid on T.V. should be required to meet with Mara first....I honestly don't think another former child star has been able to articulate as well as she has what is wrong with this business.
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Admin - I am looking forward to your new post on Mara. She stated her truth and how she lived it. And no one can dispute it.
Kate is showing desperation by directing her few fans to her website in hopes that they will pre-order her cookbook. And, sadly for the kids, Kate, without any thought to how they will used, is selfishly using photos of them (that should be private) in order to get anyone to pay attention to her.
Her website is an embarrassment. I have friends with websites that make her "coming soon" (after almost 2 years) website look LESS THAN "mediocre".
Why would someone want to buy a book from her when they see her website?
What Kate really wants is to be the "star" and "media darling" that she once was when she had the TLC machine behind her. She wants to be catered to and have her every wish granted. I'm sorry Kate but that ship has sailed and, like the Royal Caribbean, it probably caught fire on the way out of port.
Every episode showed how lazy Kate was on her realist reality show. I feel sorry for the kids when they don't have school and have to stay home with her all summer.
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Especially on K+8.
The chicken coop episode? Watch and see how many times Kate disappears to go back into the house while the kids are tended to and filmed by the coop people and film crew. Kate pops into the picture from time to time, but otherwise leave all of her children out of sight. Kate excuses herself by saying that she has to go back inside to take care of "lunchly duties". Gotta love that BS, because the set was always catered when filming. Kate made nothing. She oversaw craft services putting the food together, then served the kids their lunch as if she'd made it herself.
Remember the RV episode where Kate takes off with Steve for HOURS, while Jamie and Ashley watch, feed and take care of the kids AND the filming.
Where the hell was Kate while the crew was filming KATE +8???????
How about Sarah Palin's Alaska, where Kate signs up the family to do an episode with the Palins. Kate did nothing but stand under a tent and collect a paycheck, while the Palins took care of all of her kids.
She did nothing but bitch from the moment she got off the plane, which btw, she told to stay exactly where it was because she wasn't going to be staying long.
She knew it from the get go that she was going to ditch so she and Steve could get back to their comfy lodging.
I also read that Kate left the kids with the sitters and another bodyguard while she and Steve took off to destinations unknown while in Alaska.
NJGal51 said... 129
What Kate really wants is to be the "star" and "media darling" that she once was when she had the TLC machine behind her. She wants to be catered to and have her every wish granted. I'm sorry Kate but that ship has sailed and, like the Royal Caribbean, it probably caught fire on the way out of port.
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And SUNK, years ago. And no one wants to do a salvage dive to see what happened to it - no matter how many times Milo tweets begging or Kate posts inappropriate private pictures of the kids.
Amanda Iowa says: Somebody else thinks that Milo has a life-size statue in her house with an altar in front of it???
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If not a life-size statue, then maybe just a silicone bust of her?
miloandjack
@Kateplusmy8 Sometimes the jewels of this world remain unnoticed/hidden 4 a while! But U lady R coming of age! U have so much 2give! :)
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"coming of age!" ... or just aging?
I just read online that another set of Quintuplets has been born in Utah. The parents do have medical insurance, but there is already a group taking donations online on their behalf.
They used fertility treatments; but they have a one-year-old at home. Hmmmm....
Blowing In The Wind said... 120
She's not a talented writer by any means and, based on her crappy Stir articles, I don't foresee her being able to write interesting books on any subject that doesn't include her kids (which is what all her books have been about so far.)
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You know that she can't write. I know that she can't write, anyone with experience in writing knows that her blogs are a disaster, but the fans don't know that because they have no writing ability and very poor reading comprehension. This is not to be nasty, but it's a fact.
They think she's a talented writer because in their eyes it's great, and if they are enamored by her blogs and believe her to be a best-selling author, then that's what she is. They don't see her blogs as an embarrassment, but rather as the work of a gifted writer. Mediocre writing is all that they know and can understand.
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She writes on a middle school level. In fact, I've worked with middle schoolers who are far superior writers.
I can't remember if commented on this or just thought about it. A few weeks ago, Milo told us all we should read Kate because "she's a splended talented writer." (Missing comma just as Milo wrote it.)
My thought... best not to take book recommendations from someone who can't spell "splendid"! So yesterday, Kate was a splended writer. Today she's a splend writer? Right, Milo? LOL.
Milo seems thrilled that pool days are coming. Besides the alter, I think she's collecting bikini photos of her idol. In Milo's collection of pictures on Twitter is that one of a buxom Kate at the Derby(?). Milo's creep and ick factor just keeps growing....
I just read online that another set of Quintuplets has been born in Utah. The parents do have medical insurance, but there is already a group taking donations online on their behalf.
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I just read that, too. Let's hope that TLC doesn't find them.
It's official. I now hate the Little Couple. For them to put the VERY FIRST TIME meeting their son on a reality show is just evil.
What are they thinking?! Poor kid. He'll never live up to the expectations society will put on him, being the son of a dr.
I hope he sues when he's of age. Sues both parents, TLC AND the people of China for allowing this to happen.
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I've been busy...& quiet! Ohh the end of the school year is doing me in! I'll be back in full force soon, okay? GN!
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Exactly what is doing her in? The younger kids had their ERBs. She had nothing to do with that. The twins have a study day and finals. She has nothing to do with that. Lacrosse is over. WHAT is doing her in?
I don't watch that show, too bad they filmed it as that is a special moment. Maybe it will do some good and encourage people to adopt children with special needs.
I don't understand the comment about doctor's kids. Isn't he just a baby? Does he have intellectual difficulties? If not maybe he will be a doctor, who knows. Besides lots of doctor kids don't follow in their footsteps. It shouldn't be that big of a deal anymore.
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@Kateplusmy8 So the countdown is on I imagine....can't wait til this becomes an every day summer event>>>> http://t.co/Z24mVYh4yG(preview) :)
Milo is linking the swimming photos. What can't she wait for? Is she going swimming with them, or does she want to see more photos of the kids in their swimsuits? Why is Milo excited about the kids swimming?
She can't wait until somebody ELSE'S family swimming time becomes an "every day" event??? I don't understand that whatsoever. It's some other family's swimming pool! Who cares? This is just beyond nuts.
She can't wait until somebody ELSE'S family swimming time becomes an "every day" event??? I don't understand that whatsoever. It's some other family's swimming pool! Who cares? This is just beyond nuts.
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I honestly (Kate word) think that Milo really does believe she's part of that family. This is what is so scary. This goes beyond your garden variety celebrity worship. Something's gotta give.
famewhores as far as the eye can see said... 140
It's official. I now hate the Little Couple. For them to put the VERY FIRST TIME meeting their son on a reality show is just evil.
What are they thinking?! Poor kid. He'll never live up to the expectations society will put on him, being the son of a dr.
I hope he sues when he's of age. Sues both parents, TLC AND the people of China for allowing this to happen.
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I hope he grows into a happy, well-adjusted adult with no desire to sue his parents or his country of birth. Would you rather he stayed in China as an orphan without having his medical needs attended to?
I don't understand the "son of a doctor" comment either. Are you against doctors bearing or adopting children?
I hope most professionals these days are raising kids to not feel like they are obligated to follow in their footsteps. From what little (not making a pun!) I've seen of this couple they don't seem the type to say you HAVE to do this or that. Sometimes it's nothing you do or say though I think it's natural for kids to feel like they have to measure up to their parents. Not much we can do to stop those sometimes stressful feelings, just something most kids have to go through.
There was a comment from someone about Kate's Twitter dying a slow death. There are still four or so non-fans keeping it alive. Why do they do this? It's just too bad that they can't understand that this is exactly what the fans want. Why give in to them? Is taking the sheeple bait an addiction? They just can't seem to stop...or maybe they don't want to.
From her insipid web page:
My kids would like to display their talents for you... So please enjoy their artwork, poetry, and writings here on our K8's Kids page!
Translation: having no talent of my own, I will continue to pimp out my children in the hopes of making a buck or two. Of course they require no privacy, so look at them in bed, in swimsuits and anyplace I can possibly show them, their art, writing, whatever it takes to keep ME relevant.
Would you rather he stayed in China as an orphan without having his medical needs attended to?
Hmmm...life given over for public consumption vs. poor health care. Ok, you're right. They're BOTH evil but lack of healthcare is moreso.
How do you KNOW his medical needs weren't attended to though? He looked healthy to me.
They filmed not just a few minutes of their FIRST MEETING EVER but the entire day right up to when he went to bed.
TLC is a circus sideshow.
Someone asked Kate if Cara still skis. It was a legitimate question. A non fan replied:
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@strawberywalrus @Kateplusmy8 You didn't. Asking questions doesn't invade privacy. K8 would never take her kids anywhere esp. outdoor sports
How in the world would this non fan know if Cara is a member of the school's ski club? She very well could be. Kate doesn't have to take the kids to an outdoor sports event...there are other ways in which they could participate, and they do have a father.
The younger kids cannot possibly understand what it means to share artwork with these strangers. They're still just far too young to grasp such implications.
All day? Oh gosh poor baby. He was probably scared and confused enough as it was not to have an entire production crew in his face too. That's sad. :( I never watched that show really that couple doesn't interest me.
famewhores said... 149
Would you rather he stayed in China as an orphan without having his medical needs attended to?
Hmmm...life given over for public consumption vs. poor health care. Ok, you're right. They're BOTH evil but lack of healthcare is moreso.
How do you KNOW his medical needs weren't attended to though? He looked healthy to me.
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You're able to determine a child's health status by watching him on television? I don't "know" the child nor am I medical professional; therefore I can't KNOW for certain. However, I have heard the parents discuss the medical care associated with his dwarfism that he will receive in the US. If you want to assume that the same level of care would be available to an orphan child with dwarfism in Mongolia, be my guest.
Re The Little Couple,.I have friends who have adopted from China. It is EXPENSIVE and time consuming with the legalities. So I can see TLC helping to finance this, and if it helps them get a child in need adopted, that's great. One couple I know adopted a boy with a physical disability, and they told me boys in China are not put up for adoption unless something is wrong with them. the Chinese would not adopt him. So my friends were able to adopt him and then get him therapies he would never have had access to in the orphanage. Americans are so much more respectful and understanding of disability compared to China.
This is one case where tlc may be helping with increasing awareness of a problem. And if it inspires one family to find that child that needs them, it's a good thing.
I have heard the parents discuss the medical care associated with his dwarfism that he will receive in the US. If you want to assume that the same level of care would be available to an orphan child with dwarfism in Mongolia, be my guest.
I had such a great response for you but then realized you're an anonymous. Therefore I don't care to read what you say. Thanks for playing!
Wasn't it the Fooses who adopted one, maybe even two children with dwarfism from Russia? I think one was even autistic too. I've always remembered this one part where she was cooking with her daughter and just speaking to her like she was just any other child, put the rice in here, bring to a boil. I just thought wow how lucky that child is to be in this family and have a nice life--I don't mean material things just a nice, comfortable, normal life where she will be treated with respect despite her issues. I think that was an example of a way to show special needs adoptions without exploiting the kids. It was a one time thing and educational.
I think though you do have to be careful not to glorify it. It is a huge decision to take on such a thing and not for the faint of heart. It's not something anyone should do just because, oh I saw it on TLC and it looked so feel-good.
And if it inspires one family to find that child that needs them, it's a good thing.
I see your point but have a couple other observations. Why does THIS child need to be used to advertise Chinese adoption? Sacrifice one for the greater good? Hmmm...
Also, I highly doubt the audience watching TLC is interested in something like adopting a needy child from another country. The average TLC viewer is looking for a side show to watch. And TLC provides that need.
Famewhore usually I write most of TLC off as just a modern day circus freak show. IF educational moments happen, it's not because that Eileen person running the show gives two sh&ts about actually educating people. That would just be random chance. I do think there are good people in there, I think many of their subjects are genuinely good people, and I think they have a lot of various crew who work with them who are truly interested in just telling a great story with dignity. But Eileen wouldn't be one of them. Before she came on board, TLC was worth watching. They bought a lot of excellent foreign documentaries, mostly Canadian and British, and they seemed to respect their subjects so much more, probably because small, independent production crews specializing in documentaries was doing most of the work. There is something so much more pure about that. Most people who truly just want to make a great documentary aren't in this line of work for the money. Even David Sutherland I've heard is no millionaire, he's alleged to have mortgaged everything but his own mother to pay for the films he deep down in his heart wants to make.
They really jumped the shark when they moved to a series formula in which they sought to simply churn out as many episodes as possible cheaply with little regard for substance. I can count on one hand all the episodes of Jon and Kate and Kate Plus 8 that could even remotely be considered educational. The kids were a freak show to stare at in the privacy of your own home and have always been.
Kinda like when you move from the corner cobbler to mass production in the factory. The original charm is gone.
I think that was an example of a way to show special needs adoptions without exploiting the kids. It was a one time thing and educational.
I think though you do have to be careful not to glorify it
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I think RTV "stars" get it into their heads that what they're doing is a public service, that the greater good is for them to become famous and rich, while sacrificing their privacy and that of their minor children, who have no choice in the matter.
Kate, Bethenny Frankel and even The Little Couple are all examples of this. "My fans want me to share this" is something I can get on board with if the subject is just you, not your kids(s). Either way, it's a justification for perpetuating their 15 minutes and a salve for that scab formed to cover up what they know is selling their lives for money.
With the Little Couple, not only will their child stand out for his dwarfism, and probably for being a child of caucasian parents, but he'll be "hey! aren't you the dwarf kid adopted from China? I saw you!".
This is one case where tlc may be helping with increasing awareness of a problem. And if it inspires one family to find that child that needs them, it's a good thing.
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I would argue that a couple wanting a child, who can not have one of their own, will not need TLC to make them aware of Chinese or Mongolian children as an option. In this day and age, that information, and so much more is out there. TLC isn't doing any public service. At best, they tell an inspirational story, but this information isn't ground breaking or even arcane. It's at anyone's fingertips.
It's TLC making money and the LC getting big fat bank accounts and it makes me sick to think that this little boy they adopted will provide years of fodder for their show.
I hope he grows into a happy, well-adjusted adult with no desire to sue his parents or his country of birth. Would you rather he stayed in China as an orphan without having his medical needs attended to?
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Jeez, let's burn down this straw man argument.
Would I rather his medical needs not get attended to? Of course not but here's the error in your "logic". I don't have to be against the child getting the care he needs in order to support his getting adopted by parents with means (financial, country of citizenship etc) that will get what needs to be done done WITHOUT subjecting the child to loss of privacy.
Thousands of foreign children are adopted by Americans each year, without publicity, filming and TV appearances and they have not only wonderful care and life opportunities, but PRIVACY as well.
That is the optimal way to adopt without sensationalism and with respect for the life you are now charge of. First and foremost, when you become a parent, your #1 job is to protect your child from the world, not offer it up to it.
If you can not adopt without selling out your child's childhood, privacy and dignity, don't adopt.
famewhores as far as the eye can see said... 141
It's official. I now hate the Little Couple. For them to put the VERY FIRST TIME meeting their son on a reality show is just evil.
What are they thinking?! Poor kid. He'll never live up to the expectations society will put on him, being the son of a dr.
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It makes me wonder that if TLC, or another production company offered to film this in order to just inspire viewers, and not pay one cent for any expenses, travel, adoption feed etc, etc... I wonder if the Little Couple would have opted to keep the initial meeting private.
Money changes everything and I think, as we witnessed with J+K+8 and K+8, that getting that paycheck certainly influenced what they were will to have have filmed.
I get what you're saying about being a Dr.'s child because often times, expectations are high, and those expectations are certain to be amplified by being on television and becoming as well known/ a household name like The Little Couple and Kate Gosselin.
It's just too many people all up in your business, like Mara wrote in her excellent missive. It's bad enough to let people in your close circle down, but you increase that by orders of magnitude when you're growing up famous.
Kate is such a BS'er. She would indeed be incredibly busy running the household if she did not have help to clean, launder, cook, mow, babysit and take care of the overpopulated chicken coop. Does "Milo" truly believe Kate is so busy all the time? Isn't it ironic how the show revealed how lazy Kate is? This person has got to be Kate's toady because nobody can be that ignorant. Surely this person is a part of a deception by Kate.
As far as Little People, I think I only watched it once or twice. Glad they adopted but hate that they continue with the filming. TLC only cares about ratings, not helping an orphaned child for a childless couple. Don't kid yourself about them. The bottom line is revenue. I am sure they were doing cartwheels with the implosion of Jon and Kate's marriage. Love it that TLC got the shaft in the end dealing with a solo Kate.
The bottom line is revenue. I am sure they were doing cartwheels with the implosion of Jon and Kate's marriage. Love it that TLC got the shaft in the end dealing with a solo Kate.
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What's even more repugnant is Kate and other "Christians" boasting that J+K+8 garnered as many as 10 million viewers, which we all know, was to watch the train wreck implosion of their marriage.
Sick.
Even MORE repugnant was Kate's strategically filing for divorce the very day that said show aired, so that it could be revealed at the end of the show.
Even MOOOOOOOOORE repugnant (how low can we go?) was Kate's phrasing, implying Jon had done something so horrible, so dramatic, so (insert whatever scurrilous behavior of Jon's here) that she had no choice but to act.
For the kids, of course.
Tucker I don't think the Foos got rich and famous off a one time documentary special. I haven't seen them on t.v. in seven years. I doubt most people would recognize them anymore. I do think that family had all good intentions and put their money where their mouth was. This was before the little people show and was one of the first real attempts to show a family of dwarfs with a normal life. But I do think others go in justifying it with "good intentions" only to be raking in money on the side and I agree, I don't buy it. Kate certainly did that a lot. Oh we want to share our lives with the public, oh we want to make memories. Gimme a break, you wanted to make an "easy" paycheck. Own it.
Re: The Little Couple. I don't watch their show much now, but I read they adopted 3 year old Will who has dwarfism, thus would not be adoptable in China. Then they are looking to adopt a toddler age girl with dwarfism from India/ This all cam after a home study which revealed their home would not be safe for an average sized child as the stove and sharps and cupboards are low, and they have open an balcony & long stairways ,locks within easy reach of a small child etc.They just modified their house for little people. Not sure if they are continuing to try pregnancy again with the surrogate who is willing. IMO those two kids would be very lucky, and the parents too.I wish them well, although I don't really care for Bill as 'portrayed ' on TV.
TLC stinks said... 165
The bottom line is revenue.
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You got that right. At the end of the day TLC is nothing more than the pimp who recruits prostitutes who are a little down on their luck. "Come work for me. I'll take care of you. All you have to do is...."
Auntie, 169..if that wasn't so sad, it would be my first big laugh of the day.
Hate to think it or say it, but the Little People couple adopting a toddler from China totally smells of TLC. Someone in casting loves to bring in foreign kids. If Jon and Kate had managed to keep the charade up, they would have adopted a South Korean baby (remember, that's why they got those passports). It was part of a plan by TLC.
And the logic behind the Little People couple only getting another little people child because of the way their home is set up doesn't hold water. What if the surrogate gave birth to a normal baby?
And the logic behind the Little People couple only getting another little people child because of the way their home is set up doesn't hold water.
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This part I actually believe. There are a million and a half regulations for adoption agencies and some will reject you because you left a fork out on the counter. There's so much liability these days. I can easily see them saying oh well these cabinets are not regulation height, rejected! There's no regulations for your own bio kids but what if a toddler reached up and touched the low oven burner? I think such homes can be perfectly safe for kids as long as you're careful but an adoption agency might not trust them to be careful.
I do agree though the whole thing in terms of filming it all smells fishy. Actually, it smells like Eileen. And I hate her smell.
So why not adopt an American baby with dwarfism if there are so many adoption regulations regarding the home environment? Why do the trip to China? I can answer that...ratings.
I am not in favor of filming the Little Couple's kids, but I do think the two babies will have a better life than in orphanages in India and China. Jen obviously loves kids, being a neonatologist. The question if the surrogate had an average size baby wouldn't be different than if Jen gave birth to this baby, as it is from their own egg and sperm? Not sure of the legalities. I'm sure they would hire a nanny as both work, so agree vigilance over safety issues could be implemented. Having an adopted child is much harder than your own in terms of home safety, for better or worse, it seems. Maybe it will raise awareness, idk. Maybe they will stop filming, although i doubt it- I think they have been on talk shows with the new boy from China already. He has developmental issues but may be from being in an orphanage and understimulated.
The regulations in America are strict too. You have to pass ASFA which people can fail just because they don't have the right number of bedrooms or one smoke detector out of 12 didn't have a good battery. Plus in America we have a tradition of keeping our kids even if they are dwarfs, are there that many dwarf babies available? I don't know. It's pretty much strict everywhere, I have no problem with them adopting from China, filming it is the issue for me.
Does anyone know if Examiner.com and CelebrityDirtyLaundry, etc. are being paid to follow and comment on Kate's Twitter feed? Every time there's a story, like now, about Kate excited about summer vacation. There's got to be a connection. Maybe "The Stir" is paying for it as some type of promotion to get hits to Kate's blog?
The question if the surrogate had an average size baby wouldn't be different than if Jen gave birth to this baby, as it is from their own egg and sperm? Not sure of the legalities.
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Right, that would be her "bio" child for all intents and purposes, so she wouldn't have to pass adoption regulations. Lots of people use egg or sperm donors or both and in most states there is no "adoption", that's just your child no questions asked. Your name goes on the birth certificate, there may be some legal paperwork so the surrogate terminates parental rights, and it's done.
It's kinda funny, as long as you have the child yourself, either with your own body or surrogate, no one comes knocking. But try to adopt and suddenly you've got an encyclopedia of regulations to pass. Sometimes I wonder if we should make bio parents pass some regulations too!
There's a new post on Mara's latest blog by the way! Movin' on over....
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 172
And the logic behind the Little People couple only getting another little people child because of the way their home is set up doesn't hold water.
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This part I actually believe. There are a million and a half regulations for adoption agencies and some will reject you because you left a fork out on the counter. There's so much liability these days. I can easily see them saying oh well these cabinets are not regulation height, rejected! There's no regulations for your own bio kids but what if a toddler reached up and touched the low oven burner? I think such homes can be perfectly safe for kids as long as you're careful but an adoption agency might not trust them to be careful.
I do agree though the whole thing in terms of filming it all smells fishy. Actually, it smells like Eileen. And I hate her smell.
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If TLC had something to do with influencing the adoption in any way, I wonder if that means they can & will continue to film the sh*t out of this family.
Hopefully, the Little Couple are smarter than allowing that.
Their little son is so precious. May he live a long, happy, healthy, and productive life AWAY from TLC cameras.
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I hope he grows into a happy, well-adjusted adult with no desire to sue his parents or his country of birth. Would you rather he stayed in China as an orphan without having his medical needs attended to?
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Jeez, let's burn down this straw man argument.
Would I rather his medical needs not get attended to? Of course not but here's the error in your "logic". I don't have to be against the child getting the care he needs in order to support his getting adopted by parents with means (financial, country of citizenship etc) that will get what needs to be done done WITHOUT subjecting the child to loss of privacy.
Thousands of foreign children are adopted by Americans each year, without publicity, filming and TV appearances and they have not only wonderful care and life opportunities, but PRIVACY as well.
That is the optimal way to adopt without sensationalism and with respect for the life you are now charge of. First and foremost, when you become a parent, your #1 job is to protect your child from the world, not offer it up to it.
If you can not adopt without selling out your child's childhood, privacy and dignity, don't adopt.
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The child is three. Nobody was burning down the door to adopt him until this couple came along. Apparently you think it would have been better for him to remain an orphan in Mongolia with unattended health care needs while waiting for some hypothetical other family to come knocking in a year, five years, ten years or never. I wholeheartedly disagree, television show or no television show. The Little Couple seem to be lovely people and will give this child a great life, IMO.
I sadly nod in agreement with Famewhores. I can't see Jen expecting that adorable little boy to follow in her footsteps, but I can see Bill and Jen's Mom expecting big things. I quit watching their show last year, but I think Bill is having a negative effect on Jen.
It's only a matter of time before Milo turns on the kids. Her idolization of Kate is beyond scary. Soon it will be the kids' (along with Jon's) fault that she's not staring her own #1 rated reality show. The squick factor is really starting to get to me. Scary, but of course KK won't put a stop to it. She's too lazy to fight her own battles, plus I think she gets some perverted amusement watching Milo stand up for her from the sidelines.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 167
Tucker I don't think the Foos got rich and famous off a one time documentary special. I haven't seen them on t.v. in seven years. I doubt most people would recognize them anymore. I do think that family had all good intentions and put their money where their mouth was. This was before the little people show and was one of the first real attempts to show a family of dwarfs with a normal life
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That's the way to do it. Do a TV educational special, do some speaking, raise awareness and money, write a book, but as you said, don't turn it into your lucrative career at the expense of your children's privacy and dignity.
I come back to The Farmer's Wife. What an amazing story that yes, did show their beautiful girls, but I wouldn't recognize them now. Juanita, probably, but Daryl, no.
TFW told a moving story and wasn't a produced series of vignettes, all planned in advance. It was REAL life, and truly real reality.
Formerly Duped said... 174
I am not in favor of filming the Little Couple's kids, but I do think the two babies will have a better life than in orphanages in India and China. Jen obviously loves kids, being a neonatologist
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I have no doubt Jen loves Will (I don't know why, but he looks like a Will!) and his life, as well as his potential will be so much more fulfilled with them in the USA.
I don't know or care why they went overseas for a dwarf child, doesn't matter to me.
I just hope Will has privacy and dignity, going through his childhood, therapies and surgeries, because they are all ratings gold for TLC and the temptation to film for money will be great.
Apparently you think it would have been better for him to remain an orphan in Mongolia with unattended health care needs while waiting for some hypothetical other family to come knocking in a year, five years, ten years or never. I wholeheartedly disagree,
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You're disagreeing with something I never said, nor implied. Do you get how this works?
Your line of argument is specious at best, but more to the point, fatally flawed.
Tucker, I agree. The couple is already quite wealthy! Hope they drop the show soon.
Tucker's Mom said... 184
Apparently you think it would have been better for him to remain an orphan in Mongolia with unattended health care needs while waiting for some hypothetical other family to come knocking in a year, five years, ten years or never. I wholeheartedly disagree,
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You're disagreeing with something I never said, nor implied. Do you get how this works?
Your line of argument is specious at best, but more to the point, fatally flawed.
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Your condescension is unnecessary. My argument is neither specious nor fatally flawed simply because you disagree with it.
You absolutely implied exactly what I stated. Here are your words: "I don't have to be against the child getting the care he needs in order to support his getting adopted by parents with means (financial, country of citizenship etc) that will get what needs to be done done WITHOUT subjecting the child to loss of privacy." The obvious implication of this statement is that you would rather the child not have been adopted by these parents despite the fact that there are no known alternatives available. Hence, my accurate response that you would rather the adoption agency have waited for an "ideal" (in your eyes) family to materialize out of the ether, which might NEVER have happened.
You believe that putting the child on a reality show should have been an adoption dealbreaker. I do not. It's that simple.
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