Monday afternoon, June 3. Check local listings.
Monday, June 3, 2013
Former child stars on Katie Couric
Katie will interview those who have been there before about Amanda Bynes and the hardships of growing up in the spotlight. Guests include Mara Wilson (Mrs. Doubtfire and Matilda), Candace Cameron (Full House), and Jaleel White (Urkel!).
Monday afternoon, June 3. Check local listings.
Monday afternoon, June 3. Check local listings.
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«Oldest ‹Older 601 – 800 of 1449 Newer› Newest»Here's a random thought. Did anyone notice the picture with the blog? A gas gauge on empty with the gas light on. Now I suppose one could google for such a picture to include. I assume the picture is to prove that in fact there was an almost empty tank. Here's my question though. If in fact this is a picture of Kate's dash, why on earth would you think to take a picture of your gas gauge in the midst of what she described just happened?
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I don't know what year her SUV is, but if I remember correctly, the fuel indicator light on the Sequoia is horizontal, not vertical, and didn't look anything like the one in the photo. I could be wrong. I often am, but I did have that car.
Kate actually did a bog for coupon cabin regarding the gas buddy app. She really needs to make like Dorothy from the Wizard of Oz.......and never click those heels together.
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I said out loud 'I need butter from basement freezer' &as if by sheer magic, Mady presented me a box!
And this is worthy of a tweet and high praise from the sheep...because?
I don't usually read her blog but this one sounded worse then normal and it was pretty bad. I can't believe she's paid to do that. Pretty sad.
Interestingly enough, there was a disparaging comment from Irishman on page 4 of the comments. I thought he wanted to hook up with her or something? Maybe it's a different guy.
PS: That Bombay drink sounds interesting!
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Very interesting! I'm going to have to google that one!
I am hoping next week I will be able to get out of here! More tests tomorrow and maybe I can be able to leave by midweek next week.
So funny about the Martini drink order with 3 olives!
Me and my ex and sons ran out of gas one time back in the early 90's. What was so amazing about it was we were on a flat stretch of the 4 lane highway and we were actually running on fumes! It was 5 o'clock traffic and my ex put the gear in neutral and we just glided. Up ahead was the big industrial park area getting off work and the intersection was coming up and it was a sea of cars. I started praying for the light to change to green. It was perfect.
He just eased on the brake to keep from hitting the car ahead of us, the light changed and we went gliding through the intersection and went another 500 ft. we turned in to the gas station, which was like a drop off and it gave us the extra push to just drive up to the pumps. We all were so happy and the kids were clapping and high fiving!
Good memories!
This is "get medicated" I post rarely but read often. I have 2 fairly embarrassing MOM stories. The first isn't mine but a friends. She sent her kids to breakfast with her husband then asked the small girls age 5 and 3 what they ate. The oldest said. "I know what dad had, double Jack coke back" outta the mouths if babes for sure.
Mine was my daughter, who was 5 was looking at the magazines near the checkout counter at our local grocery store and shouted out "Beavis and Butthead" I was mortified that she knew who they were at that age. She watched at her dads.
Again, get medicated........
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That was such a sad story. My dad was the same way, destroying my things to get back at my mother. Sad thing is, he ended up hurting me more than my Mom. Pathetic, really.
I'm late to the party, and just read her bog post and all the comments here. I don't have anything to add that hasn't already been said.
Well, wait...has anyone called her an idiot yet? Maybe I have that one. lol
RWA is closed down.This is from their website: After six long years I have decided to permanently shut down this blog. I have been very fortunate to meet some great people because of RWA and I will continue to keep in contact with those closest to me. I also want everyone to be aware that BullyVille was not bluffing after all. I was served with a subpoena today. They are gathering information for the lawsuit that Kate has against Jon and Robert. I have had the subpoena verified, it is a real legal document. For those of you who posted death threats, I’m certain those are being investigated. As long as this site is up and running it could cause serious legal issues, and I would never want those type of issues to be a burden on any of you. I have to agree that I don’t think that alleged death threats should ever be made against anyone. I hope everyone can move on with their lives. Leslie
I let that post through so everyone knows but I'm asking we not make it a topic of discussion. I don't want BV to get attention.
Interestingly enough, there was a disparaging comment from Irishman on page 4 of the comments. I thought he wanted to hook up with her or something? Maybe it's a different guy.
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Irishfan47 is the guy who wants to hook up, not Irishman! ;-)
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 13m
Thank you @BullyVille for doing such GOOD and noble things for me, my kids & SO many others! #heroes
http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2013/06/kate-gosselin-hate-blog-shut-down-subpoena-lawsuit-jon-gosselin/ …
As someone said, how hard would it have been for her to have texted the pool party mom and said "I just realized I'm running low on gas. I'll be a few minutes late." And then go to your local gas station and fill up after you stop and kiss your younger kids goodbye as they head over to their dad's for the weekend?
This was one of her more embarrassing moments because yet again she proves how much of an air head she is.
I thought the twins had been so helpful since the divorce....what's so special about this recent fetching of butter? I would expect any of the 8 to do this simple task without being specifically asked. My mediocre kids did (and still do.)
I've disliked Kate for a long time and for many reasons, but this latest (and I'm not referring to her bog) makes my blood boil. Think of the kids, jeez.
Sillimom I guess a blog post about how she was low on gas and called the party to let them know she'd be 5 minutes late would be even more inexplicably boring.
Let's talk about real "heros." How about the law enforcement in Santa Monica today?
If she didn't have her low on gas story to write about, whatever else did she have to write about? Ditto the butter thing. What else would she have to tweet about?
It's interesting life experiences that have a LOW light blinking.
Mady knows darn well Kate would have a shit fit if she had to go downstairs and get it herself. That's all
What does Kate expect to get from suing Jon and Robert? Neither has any money to speak of. As long as she lives she will never let go of the fact that Jon left HER and she did not get to kick him to the curb and totally out of the kids' lives. One of these days all this evil and venom is going to bite her in the butt. I hope those kids can survive all of this, especially the boys.
Maybe she could write about what it accomplishes to sue your children's father other than to "get him." You know what? Deep down she is a terribly unhappy woman.
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Maybe she could write about what it accomplishes to sue your children's father other than to "get him." You know what? Deep down she is a terribly unhappy woman.
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And how is that "good for her kids" like she stated on twitter. What? Oh, and the article on ROL has been up for 2 hours and has less than 20 comments. LOL
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Sillimom I guess a blog post about how she was low on gas and called the party to let them know she'd be 5 minutes late would be even more inexplicably boring.
Let's talk about real "heros." How about the law enforcement in Santa Monica today?
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Now they're saying SIX people were killed!
KK may have won this one but karma swings both ways unlucky for her.
Well, the timing sure is interesting. It seems to me that this lawsuit--if it moves forward--will bring with it the sort of notoriety that most people wouldn't want. It might well overshadow any potentially positive press about Kate's cookbook...
Kate's suing Jon she said nothing about suing Robert.
And I think that says a lot.
From ROL: "The journals have not been verified as genuine."
Nor have they been verified as fakes.
Is it noble to file a lawsuit against Jon? How is that a noble thing for the kids? ROL says that "They committed multiple federal crimes and the evidence that we now have will prove beyond a shadow of a doubt they destroyed this mother of 8 purely for financial gain."
Kate has been destroyed? When did this happen?
You all are cracking me up with the gas stories and car stories. LOL. Happy weekend everyone.
They committed multiple federal crimes
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Then why haven't the feds pressed charges? A crime is CRIMINAL. There is a CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM for crimes, get it? When YOU sue someone it's CIVIL in nature. Criminal is a separate system and charges are pressed by the prosecutor, not by some random person who doesn't like it, or don't they understand this.
I read the ROL article, and a rep from BV made the following statement. It totally makes no sense:
But a rep for BullyVille responded by issuing this statement to Radar:
“This has nothing to do with protecting someone’s right to free speech as these defendants’ would have you believe. They committed multiple federal crimes and the evidence that we now have will prove beyond a shadow of a doubt they destroyed this mother of 8 purely for financial gain.”
Kate's "destroyed"? She sure isn't acting like it. What sob story is she giving them? That she can't get back on TV or that her book sales are in the tank?
Which defendants are they talking about? The "bullies" or Robert and Jon? The whole statement makes no sense--but then it's coming from BV, so that's to be expected.
Kate has been destroyed? When did this happen?
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LOL I missed that too. So they ADMIT her career is in the tank? Funny. I thought the sheeple said she is wildly successful and in high demand.
Six, oh no. An hour ago it was one. There were a couple "separate" crimes that all occurred in Santa Monica today, I'm guessing they're now saying it was all connected? Santa Monica is such a lovely, peaceful, happy little beach town. Everyone knows everyone and it doesn't feel "Hollywood." What a tragedy.
Funny. I thought the sheeple said she is wildly successful and in high demand.
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The Head Ewe says that since the divorce, Kate has been successful in everything she does, is internationally loved with networks beating down her doors. I wonder how she will reconcile the ROL article that says Kate has been destroyed. Hmmmm....
But a rep for BullyVille responded by issuing this statement to Radar:
“This has nothing to do with protecting someone’s right to free speech as these defendants’ would have you believe. They committed multiple federal crimes and the evidence that we now have will prove beyond a shadow of a doubt they destroyed this mother of 8 purely for financial gain.”
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From radar article. Excuse me, but could someone explain how they destroyed Kate? Her career? I think she did a good enough job of that all by herself. And what financial gain? Admin, have you made oodles of money running this site? I didn't think so.
I'm sorry, I know you don't want to give Bullyville any platform but I just had to comment on that one. I'm done now.
It just figures Admin, that you would stop the discussion about RWA. I will never understand your mentality, except for youth, that thinks you have everything figured out. This is big news, whether you think so or not. For those of us who have followed this mess since the beginning this is something that we would like to talk about and discuss but of course, you shut it down.
Even though I don't like your perspective, I don't think you have one thing to fear from Bullyville. You have never made threats of any kind to anyone and you have actually given Kate the benefit of the doubt at times. The war between RWA and the few fans of Kate is between them but I do think we have a right to discuss it.
Oh well, I won't hold my breath.
They are just so irrational. If Kate was "destroyed" how come we just saw her on ABC not four months ago? She seems fine to me, she's got a book coming out, she has three cars, a Mcmansion, a blogging "job" where she can throw together whatever crapfest she wants once a week and be done with it. She obviously doesn't even need to work a real job apparently.
"Destroyed"? Really? No, if people don't want Kate it's because of things like she is obnoxious, vile, and has no talent and people are sick of her. Not a single solitary network or entity has EVER said they don't want her because of Robert's accusations. Besides one of the HARDEST things to prove is that you didn't get a job because of A, B, or C. For instance, let's say a network were considering putting Kate on T.V. and then backed out. How will you EVER prove it was because of the book? They would have had to outright say it at one point, and most networks are smart enough to come up with some excuse like they believe she's too polarizing or won't bring in ratings. Most of the time I doubt they even give her a reason, they don't owe her that. No one is going to say oh and we pulled her because of that book.
How long was Robert's book out before it was pulled? A few days?
Maybe she could write about what it accomplishes to sue your children's father other than to "get him." You know what? Deep down she is a terribly unhappy woman.
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I'd just like to know that if she wins a lawsuit, how is she going to collect on judgment? Take him for all he's worth? How is this going to benefit her financially? What in the world is she thinking? If she can't get any money out of him, what is she trying to prove? The only thing she'll succeed in doing is hurting her kids by this constant harassment of their father. What money does he have?
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Kate has been destroyed? When did this happen?
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LOL I missed that too. So they ADMIT her career is in the tank? Funny. I thought the sheeple said she is wildly successful and in high demand.
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So now that RWA is gone do the sheep think KK will be on TV again working and her book is going to sell?
Kylie, I appreciate your frustration since frankly I kinda want to talk about it too myself, but why should we give BV attention for "shutting down a blog"? What does that have to do with youth? I'm allowing discussion of the Radar article and Kate's tweet. Have at it. I can only make the best decisions I can, but a blog that just talks about other blogs has proven time and again to go nowhere fast. Plus I don't want to tread into anything in which something negative is said about them, there's too much temptation for rule 4 to be broken.
Another thing Kylie, is that big decision like that I almost always consult the "staff." They are significantly older than me.....no offense blog girls, you can still keep up with the pool boys with the best of them. :) We don't always agree but on this one we absolutely did.
You know if I were an outsider looking in with no background of what happened, and was observing who was living in a modest little house in the country working modest jobs and doesn't appear to have much money, versus who has the mansion, the cars, the easy-rider job, the book coming out, the recent appearance on T.V. Heck I might assume that guy over there in the little house was the one who got "destroyed'" in this family!
I'd just like to know that if she wins a lawsuit, how is she going to collect on judgment? Take him for all he's worth? How is this going to benefit her financially? What in the world is she thinking?
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Okay, call me crazy, but, she says she voluntarily stopped Jon's child support payments. Let's pretend we live in a fantasy world and that's true, even though that's not legally possible in PA once a support order is in place, but suspend disbelief for a second. Wouldn't it be a heck of a lot easier for her to simply keep on collecting money from him via a support order and "get him" that way?
Isn't a lawsuit the LONG way around? They are expensive, stressful, time consuming, soul-eating. Why not just milk him for all he is worth and collect his support each month and "get him" that way? That would be easier. Or does she really just want the satisfaction of a judge saying "guilty, Jon!" Seriously, Kate?
I have news for Kate. A lawsuit doesn't make anyone feel better. It really doesn't. There are no studies that show any correlation between "getting someone" in a suit and feeling better about yourself. Lawsuits make people feel worse, not better, and drain your bank accounts. Oh, folks sure think they will make a difference, but they rarely do. Unfortunately sometimes they are necessary, but I recommend you do everything you can to avoid them.
The war between RWA and the few fans of Kate is between them but I do think we have a right to discuss it.
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Why? If it's between the blog and the sheeple, what does that have to do with anyone here? Nobody here was/is at war with the sheep. From what I understand, that blog, while calling Kate out on some of the things she did, was mainly a "parody" about the fans, with posters poking fun at the sheep; sheep getting mad at the blog and posting on their own sites and Twitter about the posters on the blog.
Discussing the ROL article and Kate's alleged lawsuit (or lawsuits) is fair discussion; talking about another blog and its war against the sheep really has no place here.
Maybe she could write about what it accomplishes to sue your children's father other than to "get him." You know what? Deep down she is a terribly unhappy woman.
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I wonder if Kate pictures herself in court, on the stand, on HLN with cameras rolling, crying about how the non-fans ruined her "career". Is that how she sees this lawsuit? Calling Gordon Ramsey!!
..no offense blog girls, you can still keep up with the pool boys with the best of them. :) We don't always agree but on this one we absolutely did.
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Speaking of which, admin, are they still in the shed with the mowing boys? :-)
Silimom, it's okay. I think we kinda feel like we have to get it out of our system. If there has been any financial gain to the other parties, it's been marginal. No one else in this saga is living in a mansion. No one else has three cars. No one else drives an Audi. Please, don't insult our intelligence.
It all goes back to only Kate is allowed to make money off this situation, not anyone else. She cannot stand that even a PENNY was made off her or her kids that she didn't pocket herself. It's really a sick mentality. She can't even stand that their own father might have a lifestyle anything above living in a shack. It's so SAD.
Let's even take us for an example, hypothetically. How do you even prove those 10 cents were made off Kate and not the many other things we talked about? For instance two of our most popular articles are Larry Flynt and Mara Wilson. You can't prove that people didn't come in to see those. Welcome to the internet, where celebrity sites talk about other people and sometimes bring in some marginal revenue for it. No one else is crying.
LOL Jane we really do need Gordon Ramsey in here.
Okay, you were "bullied" uh-huh.....what I want to know is HOW IS YOUR FOOD.
For Kate he would say I want to know HOW ARE YOU IN FRONT OF THE CAMERAS ARE YOU ANY GOOD?
End of story.
There's other places to discuss it if people think there is a right to discuss it...twitter, I think the STir is putting through most comments. Where are the RWAers going? I'm sure they'll find somewhere. Maybe one of them will start a new place. I think it will be fine.
Not sure if this article has been mentioned: http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2013/06/07/real-housewives-new-jersey-brings-kids-into-family-drama/?intcmp=features
(sorry I don't know how to put the link in).
The article talks about reality TV and the effects it has/could have on children.
I have one other really embarrassing story that happened to my mom.
Years ago, my younger brother was about 3 and she was a stay at home at the time. One day she decided to take him to Burger King for lunch. It was a week day and there were lots of truckers there for lunch. Lots of men. While standing in line to order, my brother announces to my mother, "Mommy, my penis is getting hard!" She tried to ignore it. Hoping it would drop. Because there was no response, he again repeated, "But mommy, my penis is getting hard", much louder. She quietly told him to leave it alone and it will go away. This was in front of big, burly truckers. She was mortified. The more she tried to ignore and down play, the louder he got. How humiliating!
We all still laugh, 30 years later!
I don't think it can be pointed out here the real disconnect here.
Kate, for instance, once complained that the kids didn't even have beds at Jon's, they were sort of having a "sleepover" as she described it. Well, if you take this guy for everything he is worth (what else do you typically ask for in a standard lawsuit like this but money??) then won't the kids be the ones suffering? She really doesn't see the correlation between Jon being able to support himself free of harassment and lawsuits, and the kids own comfort.
I wonder if Kate pictures herself in court, on the stand, on HLN with cameras rolling, crying about how the non-fans ruined her "career". Is that how she sees this lawsuit? Calling Gordon Ramsey!!
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No...because then she'd have to admit that her "career" is over. Milo would be screaming "positivity" and Kate would be torn between crying about how she was destroyed, while at the same time trying to convince her fans that she still has all of her irons in the oven and there will be a new show coming. You can't have it both ways.
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@BullyVille @Kateplusmy8 Sir James...U & Kate drew the line N the sand...said "No More"...& U stuck 2ur cause & took bullies down! Thank U!
Maybe Milo will concentrate on drooling over BV and back off Kate a bit! On second thought -- too much to hope for.
Isn't a lawsuit the LONG way around? They are expensive, stressful, time consuming, soul-eating.
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The legal fees are going to kill her. Who is paying those? Her children? Can money be taken out of their trust because she could try to claim that it's in the best interest of her children to sue their father? She mentions them in her tweet to BV -- what he is doing is "noble" for her children.
I just don't know how you can explain to your children that you are suing their father whom they love. What good could possibly come of it?
How do you explain to your children when they are 18 and are asking why there is no more money, oh sorry I used it to sue your father? You can't justify it.
Correct, you can't have it both ways. Either your career is thriving, there is more, so much more around every corner, you have a gazillion twitter followers and life is perfect, or your life has been "destroyed." If this is the message, she sure didn't plan that out very carefully. Her whole twitter account shows that she is getting all kinds of work. She is always working, according to her own tweets. Good luck proving damages.
I'm a bit late to the party this evening, but I have an embarrassing Mom story -- I embarrassed the heck out of my mom and my dad when I was about 4. Adult church ran late one Sunday and our Sunday School teacher was looking for ways to keep us occupied until it let out. She asked if anyone had a song or a story they wanted to share. I popped up and sang a beer commercial I'd heard on the radio (our church considered alcohol to be a sin). My Mom was head of the Sunday School and Dad was Minister of Music, so everyone teased them about it. i didn't think I'd ever live it down. I was in my 30's and some of the older members of the church would bring it up!
admin--
Looks like you are the last bog standing--and deservedly so! Shows that running a clean blog that is mostly respectful and civil will withstand the test of time. BTW, when you said that there was only one millionaire, you meant besides yourself, right? ;-D
Well, now that half of the circuar firing squad has bitten the dust, what will the sheeple live for?
I must be really slow today. I can't figure out what suing Jon and Robert has to do with the haters destroying Kate. Does Kate have two lawsuits going, one suing Jon and Robert and one suing "haters?"
GWOP is still up if quiet though isn't it? No one shut them down.
The only lawsuit I really want to see is Hailey's. Now that one struck me as funny.
Wouldn't peace, and a "truce" be better for the kids? Wouldn't a lawsuit just SCARE kids? Little kids think a lawsuit means Daddy is going to jail, they don't understand this.
Wouldn't any good therapist advise mom and dad to just try to get along?
I'm confused, and it's not the Rumspringa. Well, not entirely the Rumspringa. ROL talks about a subpoena. What does a subpoena served on a blog owner have to do with Kate's lawsuit against Jon (and Robert)? Is this part of the class action lawsuit that is supposedly being served on some of the non-fans? And why even mention criminal charges? That's a totally separate issue -- those are crimes. It has nothing to do with Kate's lawsuit against Jon. How many suits are being filed, and against whom?
I wonder if this is why Kate's bog was delayed a day. She was too busy consulting with BV. It's probably also why she mentioned the kids going to Jon's in her bog.
She had to show what a wonderful mother she is because she just had to go to the bus stop to give them hugs before they left for the weekend.
However, I don't think that was the reason she had to go to the bus stop. If the kids went directly to Jon's from school, most likely she had to bring him their clothes and stuff for the weekend. They couldn't bring that to school with them, and you know she wouldn't let Jon come to the house to pick it up.
This is how divorced parents should act in front of their kids after a messy divorce. In this instance, the husband left a very successful wife almost bankrupt and then got $10,000/month in alimony plus other things. This is what class means!
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2001-04-15/news/0104150393_1_david-flynn-post-divorce-jane-seymour
Well, Admin, I'm guessing the hits here are going to increase drastically now, so be sure to remember us little people when you move into that mansion. ;)
I must be really slow today. I can't figure out what suing Jon and Robert has to do with the haters destroying Kate. Does Kate have two lawsuits going, one suing Jon and Robert and one suing "haters?"
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That must be two of us, Tweet, because I just posted the same thing.
Kate couldn't appreciate what a messy divorce really is if it slapped her in the face. She's got nothing on some of the big Hollywood divorces. Lots of women face messy divorces and nasty ex's. But the ones who love their kids more than they hate their ex's manage to put the kids first. And their kids are always better for it.
Pat our annual summer blog road trip hosted by Joy will be on me this year! Joy might even get a per diem if she agrees to only eat organic.
I think they suits are connected because some of the "haters" have "bullied" Kate just like Jon and Robert "bullied" Kate. And everyone else made millions off and Kate was destroyed. Yes. So it's all connected that way. Do you think the mentally ill really do see the world in a completely different way than normal people? Like what normal people see as ridiculous to them is very serious and righteous?
Yeah scratching my head too.
Wow. Kate is one selfish spiteful biotch (well, we already knew that) -- she is going to hurt those kids by trying to ruin their father. No matter what she thinks he did or didn't do, he is still their father. He hardly has a pot to pee in as it is, now she wants to take the pot...
Real adult-like Kate.
Embarrassing mom story? I've got one. I was in the bookstore with my then tween son and we were ready to check out. There's no delicate way to say this so I'll just say it, I had to fart and it was coming whether i wanted it to or not. I decided to do the old cough to cover the fart routine but all that did was force it out louder. My son was mortified and declared that we could never shop in that store again. Me? I was laughing so hard I was crying and I don't think that the cashier even knew what was going on other than he had a crazy laughing lady on his line. My son is now 30 and will sometimes say "If you're going to fart please do it before we're on line waiting to pay".
Let me put it this way, if you can be Charlie Sheen's ex and even take in his kids when he needs you to, then any grown woman can muster up the maturity to get through a divorce without behaving like a whiny little parental alienating monster.
From the ROL article:
"And Radar has learned exclusively that BullyVille has sent out other subpoenas and received IP addresses connected to numerous sites that will play a role in the upcoming federal lawsuit by Kate."
Federal lawsuit? Is that because this "lawsuit" is supposed to be a class-action suit against the bullies? Isn't that what one of the original articles back in April said?
I don't see how any suit against Jon and/or Robert would be a "federal" lawsuit.
Admin-any idea what that means?
I wonder in Kate's mind does she really think that the.
Kids will never see or hear about what she's doing?
And does she really think that they are going to be proud of her actions?
She lives in the now satisfaction and does think about the further consequence.
miloandjack
@msgoody2shoes21 @Kateplusmy8 @BullyVille Yeah...I've been sitting here grinning..feeling so happy 4Kate! This is a long time over due! :)
miloandjack
@BarbGilmer @Kateplusmy8 @BullyVille I KNOW Sir James McGibney sees us! Bunch of crazy happy women thanking U man! Appreciate him so much!
miloandjack
@BarbGilmer @grisel1018 @RealZiggyFlo @stashcache @Kateplusmy8 @BullyVille I sure hope Kate comes back & LOOKS 2see us all cheering 4her! :)
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Hey! MIlo found her "gs" -- will wonders never cease?
How long is she going to keep slobbering over this? Isn't it soon time for her to go to bed?
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Wouldn't any good therapist advise mom and dad to just try to get along?
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Yes but it takes to not to get along or so I thought.
And Jon is not doing anything to Kate that we know of.
I mean she slams him over and over runs him over with the bus time and time again.
And now she supposedly suing him. That's a whole lot of hate.
And then she claims everything in all-so with him then she slams him again.
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I must be really slow today. I can't figure out what suing Jon and Robert has to do with the haters destroying Kate. Does Kate have two lawsuits going, one suing Jon and Robert and one suing "haters?"
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That must be two of us, Tweet, because I just posted the same thing.
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Whew! Glad to know I'm not stumbling around in the dark by myself. :)
Federal lawsuit I assume that just means skipping the state courts and going straight to federal court. You can do it, but usually it's better to exhaust all your remedies at home first. Plus, they don't take a lot of kinds of cases, you can google federal court to see explanations of what cases they take. The ONLY one I see this remotely falls under is suing people in different states. It doesn't make you "special" or more serious to go to federal court it just means you have an issue better suited for federal court than state.
But the fact that they don't even understand the difference between a criminal lawsuit and a civil one makes me highly skeptical. There's a lot that sounds off about this but not having actually seen any documents it's hard I think for anyone to say what this means other than to say it sounds off. Anything is possible. I'll say this, this sounds like the same dog and pony show we heard last time, without any documents or case numbers ever produced. I guess we'll have to await those.
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@CarleneMarie_1 So true ..they lie N wait 2attack...I had one poor teacher quit twitter because they threatened 2write her school district!
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"I" had? Milo is either living in Kate's head, THINKS she is Kate, or IS Kate.
Another thing I'm having a hard time seeing here, and we've discussed this before, is standing. You have to be the party aggrieved in a lawsuit. You can't just file a suit against someone because you don't like what they did to someone else. Usually only the person wronged can file. Otherwise lawsuits would be out of control if you think about it. I can't witness my neighbor punch another neighbor then sue him for it. I wasn't punched. Same concept. I suppose I could go encourage my neighbor to file and even be his lawyer, but that's really all I can do. If I filed suit I'd be thrown out of court before I ever got in the door. No standing.
I suppose they could "help" a group of plaintiffs sue, but BV vs. Jon, Robert and the haters makes no sense to me.
If there really is a lawsuit, will info from both sides be a matter of public record, admin? Won't Kate have to lay her cards on the table, too?
"And Radar has learned exclusively that BullyVille has sent out other subpoenas and received IP addresses connected to numerous sites that will play a role in the upcoming federal lawsuit by Kate."
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Does that mean she's filing a civil lawsuit in federal court? I'm still confused! But ROL mentioned federal crimes. She can't file a lawsuit for a federal crime allegedly committed against her.
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@Kateplusmy8 I think we'll all sleep better 2nite knowing @Bullyville has been on ur side! He came thru 4U & all of us! :) #StopBullying
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That might be true for you, Milo, because we know what you value most, but here we are going to have a good night's sleep because we are all together and our children are tucked into their beds...safe, sound and healthy. We have been blessed on yet another day.
NJGal51, I loved your fart story. I could see myself doing the same thing!!!
Hey! MIlo found her "gs" -- will wonders never cease?
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This is what happens when you're a fake and you get so excited that you forget about all about the persona you've created and you become your "real" self! lol!
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@Kateplusmy8 The older ur kids get...they will look back on this & admire U Kate 4taking a stand against so many bullies! U were BRAVE! :)
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Milo, are they also going to admire Kate for trying to destroy their father? How was Kate brave? She convinced BV to do all the work for her.
I still think BV is using Kate, and Kate is too dumb or naïve to realize it.
What about death threats made to Jon--made by Sherri Shepard and Goody? I guess they don't count. I've seen threats from the fans made to the haters-I vividly recall one wishing that a house would fall on a hater when the haters' area was hit by tornadoes.
Funny how the sheeple forget that it went both ways.
If there really is a lawsuit, will info from both sides be a matter of public record, admin? Won't Kate have to lay her cards on the table, too?
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I would certainly think so. She'd also have to prove damages. It could get very interesting. Sometimes with a lawsuit like this, it's best to let sleeping dogs lie. Stirring up a hornet's nest really would not be in her best interests. Everything will come out in depositions.
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What does Kate expect to get from suing Jon and Robert? Neither has any money to speak of. As long as she lives she will never let go of the fact that Jon left HER and she did not get to kick him to the curb and totally out of the kids' lives. One of these days all this evil and venom is going to bite her in the butt. I hope those kids can survive all of this, especially the boys.
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Jon did not leave Kate. He did not want to do the show anymore and she kicked HIM to the curb and SHE filed for the divorce. That is common knowledge.
I don't know....I could be wrong, but this sounds like a bunch of huffing and puffing to me. Again. They don't appear to have the slightest idea the difference between state and federal court, civil and criminal lawsuits. Hopefully their lawyer knows. Who is their lawyer by the way? Bueller??
Speaking of Rumspringa, this man's man show Longmire I've been forced to watch had an episode about Mennonites on a rumspringa. Only they kept pronouncing it rumspringer. Is that correct?
Jon did not leave Kate. He did not want to do the show anymore and she kicked HIM to the curb and SHE filed for the divorce. That is common knowledge.
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Yes but I do agree she won't forgive him for that brief moment in time. In Kate's mind Jon did leave her because he "left" her agenda for this family even though he was still physically present.
Kate is a twit why can't they just call a truce? I've never seen such an incredible inability to let go of something. This was 2009. It's over. The sheeple seem to think Kate is on top of the world today in 2013. So, she "won" then didn't she? She already has won, what more does she WANT?? Talk about GREED.
Someone else had a good point, what exactly is Jon doing to her now? NOTHING that we can see. You better believe she would let us know if he were. All anyone ever talks about is what happened four years ago. Nothing new has ever come of anything. Why not just move on now?
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If there really is a lawsuit, will info from both sides be a matter of public record, admin? Won't Kate have to lay her cards on the table, too?
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Could it all end up being sealed so all we're left with is speculation on both sides?
Only they kept pronouncing it rumspringer. Is that correct?
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Not really. Rumspringa is pronounced Rum Schpringa, not "spring" as in the season. Depending upon how thick a PA Dutch accent the person has, it may come out as rumspringER. I wish we had audio on here. You'd get a good laugh at my pronunciation!
They don't appear to have the slightest idea the difference between state and federal court, civil and criminal lawsuits. Hopefully their lawyer knows. Who is their lawyer by the way? Bueller??
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Who is whose lawyer? Who is suing whom? Is BV suing the sheeple? Is Kate suing the sheeple? Who is named as the plaintiff? Who served the subpoenas? Kate's attorneys? BV's attorneys?
I guess my question is...Who's On First??
Isn't there a statute of limitations on this kind of silliness?
Mel said... 78
If there really is a lawsuit, will info from both sides be a matter of public record, admin? Won't Kate have to lay her cards on the table, too?
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Exactly what I thought! If Kate wants to sue someone then they have every right to subpeona her, bring her in for depositions, and question her on the stand as much as they want.
And if she lied then she would be in contempt. And since we all know she lies often and without thought, it would be easy to prove what a lying liar she is and have it recorded in court.
I know that if I was being sued by her, I would take joy in having my lawyer expose her and her lies. Anyone receiving (if they really are) a lawsuit from Kate, has every right to put Kate on the stand and question her all they want.
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miloandjack
@Kateplusmy8 The older ur kids get...they will look back on this & admire U Kate 4taking a stand against so many bullies! U were BRAVE! :)
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Milo is nuts so I expected this from her.
But oh yes the kids will be so proud that mom trashed dad over and over in the media,
They will be so proud that mom sued dad.
They will be so happy that mom made dad look like a deadbeat and a cheater and a thief.
They will be so proud that mom embossed them time and time again with twit pics.
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I betcha Robert Hoffman wished he never got involved with @Kateplusmy8's ex from hell to "nail her coffin". #DumbAndDumb
And here comes Goody with her Jon rants. She hates bullies, hates harassment, but she thinks there's nothing wrong with tweeting Kate about her "ex from hell."
Gosh, you just can't make this stuff up!
You know, if I were the fans, I don't think I'd be so quick to gloat. It could be thrown right back in their faces. Plus, gloating is highly over-rated!
Hi, 15 Min-ners. This is Dwindle, but not in Blue. Or Fuchsia. Just wanted to offer support for all to stand strong, especially Admin. There is a special place in eternity for a woman who would do this to her children and their beloved daddy.
Embarrassing mom stories? Back in the mid 1980's I had my toddler daughter in the seat of the shopping cart at the checkout of neighborhood grocery store. We were surrounded by elderly ladies and the week's magazines and ragmags. DD was pointing to the magazines exclaiming "Mama Mia! Mama Mia!" or sounds to that effect. I could NOT figure it out! Of course all the elderly ladies started talking to her in Italian, which we are not, trying to help her clarify herself. One dear lady even thought my child was calling for the Blessed Mother. We aren't Catholic either. But the kid kept pointing at the magazines and calling out "Mama Mia, Mama Mia!"
Finally it hit me. I almost died. She was pointing to a mag cover of Boy George, and "Mama Mia" was toddler speak for "Karma Chameleon". No way could I admit that to a small crowd of elderly ladies who were trying to translate for my baby. That was the end of MTV and VH1 in MY house, by the way.
I bet Kate won't take the stand she knows that she's a liar she'll plead the 5th.
How is shutting down a blog helping Kate in her lawsuit against Jon and Robert? I don't understand any of this!
BV is absolutely using Kate. The tweet below is from someone who works for http://lexiconpublicrelations.com/ and if you click around their web site you'll see a testimonial from BV's James McBV and under "our work" about halfway down you'll see a story about Kate.
@zackteperman: Check out what our client @BullyVille just did to help out @Kateplusmy8 (article via @radar_online)
You know, most celebs tend to ignore tell alls when they come out. They know that their fans won't care and the more attention they bring to it the more people are going to be curious to see why the star is so up in arms. Sort of a case of "I think the lady doth protest too much".
I suppose, in Kate's case, it doesn't really matter because only two outlets are carrying this story - Radar and Examiner. Most people could care less, frankly.
If she is suing, then it indicates to me that she is going the civil court route because no DA cares enough about her evidence to prosecute her haters. And honestly, she'd have to prove intent to cause harm and I think that would be difficult. Even in the Leann Rimes case, the DA hasn't decided to press charges, just the sheriff's dept./police dept. is recommending that based on their findings the teacher did violate California law by recording the conversation without permission and so the DA would have a case. Again, this was a very specific crime committed. Saying "I hope someone gets in a car crash and dies", etc. is very different from "If I see x person in public, I will beat them to a pulp."
There is a solution to both Kate's and Leann's problem - we adopt a zero tolerance policy and shut down the Internet. If some people can't be trusted to behave themselves, then we just need to ban it altogether. It's what they do in school districts, after all, when somebody does something stupid and the district lawyers and accountants and insurers decide they don't want to take the risk of it happening again. So let's shut down Twitter and Facebook and bulletin boards and YouTube, Wikipedia, Pinterest, the whole lot of it.
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I don't think Kate is looking for money, she knows neither Jon or Robert have any. Instead, I think she desperately wants total custody of the kids so she can take them to Cali. In the slim chance Jon might be looking at some actual legal trouble, this might be her big bargaining chip. Even if he did not one thing wrong, the cost of proving this could ruin him financially.
Whew! Glad to know I'm not stumbling around in the dark by myself. :)
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lol, Tweet, no you're not alone. I could offer you a few shots of Rumspringa and we could really stumble around together!
I think there's much more to this than we are hearing. If Kate ordered BV to "take down the haters," I wonder if she could be in hot water, especially if any of the fans assisted her (or BV) by outing the haters using allegedly illegal means.
It will all come out in the wash.
I think that could be what she is thinking in her noggin, but it makes very little sense. Family law court decides how much or how little you see your kids, not federal court, and you have to be pretty darn inappropriate to lose your kids. Family law court could care less if you want to sue the pants off the other parent, and they could care less if one or both are out to try to get the other or ruin them financially or who wrote what book about who. Their concern is what visitation is best for the children. Jon's been consistently part of their lives post-divorce for so long, unless he turns up a crack addict one day, it's probably not going to change. Hypothetically speaking it would be hard to fashion an order that one parent is not allowed to discuss aspects of their partner for a tell-all as long as they are not trashing them in front of the kids or discussing the custody issues. There is a case right now in PA where a dad had a blog about the mom and he was forbidden by the family law judge from blogging (he appealed it on free speech grounds) but I'm pretty sure he was discussing current circumstances and the current case.
But I do agree that could very well be what she is thinking. I'm guessing she's already tried for full custody, quite frankly, and of course it didn't work. So now she's on to plan B which is this. She probably does think if i can sue the pants off him then come to family law court with the judgment then they will understand what I see. They really are unlikely to care. The first thing I would be doing is objecting to any of that even coming in on relevance grounds.
This is a classic parental alienator. They think if only just this or just that, then everyone will see how terrible this person is for my kids. She's nuts. And textbook.
Silimom, on a side note, what do you think will happen in that Leann case? It's well known that the person who recorded that call isn't as innocent as she appears to be.
If anyone has a Pacer account, they could do a search to try and find the case filed by Kate and Bullyville. After all, my understanding is that if a subpoena has been issued then a case had to be filed first.
After all, my understanding is that if a subpoena has been issued then a case had to be filed first.
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......Yeeeah, I would think so. Am I missing something here? You need a judge to oversee subpoenas in case you have objections to them or don't comply. Without a judge and case, a subpoena is just a piece of paper no different than the kind you use to wipe. It has no authority without a court behind it. You could just ignore it, laugh at it, spit on it, without a judge enforcing it. You also need a judge so that you can file your motions objecting to said subpoenas, which often ask for far more than they are ever legally entitled to. I have successfully objected to subpoenas that were far too nosey asking for far too much irrelevant information. Just cause you have a case doesn't mean you have free reign to gather every last bit of information about the client you feel like. The first thing I would consider is an anti-SLAPP motion for this kind of thing.
Thank you @BullyVille for doing such GOOD and noble things for me, my kids & SO many others! #heroes http://t.co/nyIuMC8Agu
Kate never should have tweeted this. She should have been quiet about the whole thing, and certainly not tweeted a link to the ROL article. She just can't keep those tweeting fingers from moving.
Thank you @BullyVille for doing such GOOD and noble things for me, my kids & SO many others! #heroes http://t.co/nyIuMC8Agu
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I see Kate said thanks for doing it for my kids and not doing it for her.
I thought she was the one being bullied so how did BV help the kids again?
I see Kate said thanks for doing it for my kids and not doing it for her.
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She tweeted "FOR ME" first -- before mentioning her kids.
Thank you @BullyVille for doing such GOOD and noble things for me, my kids & SO many others! #heroes http://t.co/nyIuMC8Agu
So Admin, my husband, who follows lawsuit information because of his job in the tech industry and also because it just interests him did a search for all the filings with the name Hoffman in all PA federal court districts since 2012 and there are no obvious hits for any cases involving Robert Hoffman or Jon Gosselin using Justia.com. He also did a search in all federal courts and again, no hits. He looked specifically involving libel, slander or copyright infringement. He'd need to know which specific court it was filed in to try and find anything on the state level (unless you have any tips Admin).
I suppose it's possible that the case hasn't been filed yet or that it's going through the state courts.
I hope that the blog owner over at RWA has a good attorney because, barring more specific information, something smells a little off in Denmark.
Although this is just a yahoo question, it is simple and I believe accurate:
Do I need an active case in order to file a subpoena in a civil case?
I'm in Illinois.I am working on filing a lawsuit in a kane county case.I don't have the evidence I need to put it in my lawsuit complaint.What I want to do is file a subpoena in civil court.If I did it this way I can get the evidence and then build my lawsuit complaint from the evidence instead of filing an incomplete/incorrect lawsuit then asking for the evidence.What should I do?
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You can't subpoena someone to a court case when the court case doesn't technically exist. You don't need evidence right off the bat to file a case. You file the lawsuit first, then subpoena to get a hold of the evidence.
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So, where's the lawsuit if there is a "subpoena"?
Well, let's see if this post gets posted! What is Kate's most embarrassing moment, is writing a 10 min blog, of crap. For peoples info: Kate wrote on another blog not too long ago, about a gas station app, that she put on her phone. So why is she whining about not finding a gas station, and what nitwit, waits till the tank is nearly empty, to fill up. Filling up does not take long, 10 min tops. Course Kate has all day, all week to fill up not last minute! More, DRAMA QUEEN!
Good to see you anger issues. I forgot what her Gas Buddy post was about I'm guessing CC swiffered it so I can't refresh my memory, but that's the one part in her post that really is glaringly hard to believe, other than the dozen other little things that don't make sense. She didn't say the app wasn't working. She didn't say she couldn't get reception. That's plausible. What she said was that she looked at the app and there were no stations around. Okkkkay, so then you expand the map with two fingers and look further up or down the road. You can expand the map to show a 50 mile radius if you like, it's very versatile and fool proof which is why it's considered one of the best apps around. As long as you have reception, it works. If it's not working, more than likely it's user error. She never explained if she tried to look further up the map. What good is the best app in the world if you are this inept at using it. If this incident ever even happened, which I doubt it did.
I just looked at my Gas Buddy app just to see just how far of a radius it will show me gas stations. I'm in LA and it's showing me gas stations all the way out in Bakersfield, Fresno and even San Francisco if I want! These places are five, six, seven hour drives away. When I zoom in, I can quickly move all around LA, up and down roads, zoom way in close, move further up or down the freeway, all within a few seconds. It is a powerhouse app. Free too. It simply doesn't make sense that the app couldn't guide her to a station within seconds.
Catching up after a very busy week. Thanks for all the updates here. The twidiots don't realize that shutting down discussion of Ms Kreider will further decrease the tweets about the twit. Ms Kreider is boring and there are many, many real celebrities who are fodder for discussion, parody, debate, and joking.
Also, thanks for the hilarious mom stories! I agree with those who think the tits bog is a complete fabrication.
OT weather report from Outer Banks of NC! After driving here thru rain and wind bands of tropical storm Andrea, which wasn't bad at all compared to this past Winters nor'easters, today is going to be gorgeous! Last night was clear skies, nice temp, lots of stars, and windy. But this is the Outer Banks, the Wright brothers came here because it was so windy!
We are getting the beach house spruced up for the annual virtual beach party. Anyone want to virtually stop by today, come on over! Bring favorite snack, swim suit, walking shoes. We have sodas AND pop and juice and ingredients for Mimosas and sangria! Hot tub is bubbly and ready. We are heading down to Sam and Omies for breakfast, then to Ace hardware. If you get here before we get back just come on in. we will leave the door unlocked. Hot tub upstairs on the deck.
I don't think Kate is that interested in full custody. I think her primary motive is to ruin/hurt Jon. Such a mean, bitter, vindictive, spiteful person. How ugly.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 117
I just looked at my Gas Buddy app
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LOVE Gas Buddy! The "Around Me" app is cool, too.
This comment on the bog literally has my LOLing:
WOW WHAT A RIDE BUT WAIT A MINUTE, WAIT JUST A MINUTE!!! KATE!!! You forgot to tell us what color your nails were at the time of this EXCITING ADVENTURE!! And of course, did your shoes match?? WHEN YOU GOT INTO YOUR CAR, DID YOU STEP IN WITH YOUR RIGHT FOOT OR YOUR LEFT FOOT FIRST?? WHAT DID YOU NAME YOUR PASSENGER SEAT?? OH! AND WHAT DID YOU NAME YOUR IPHONE CASE??? I cannot believe you forgot to tell us these incredibly crucial details!! And oh my goodness, of course you were RIDICULOUSLY EMBARRASSED. You're still on CAMERA! You still have a TV SHOW! The entire world, 8 billion people and counting, were WATCHING with BATED BREATH to see if YOU WOULD GET GAS OR NOT! It was HISTORICAL. Thank GOD you filled your tank to the TIPPY TOP, not the middle piddle. We were all buzzing with speculation; most people voted that you would go with the TIPPY TOP. Some even ventured that you would settle for bumbly bottom! WHEW! And now I will And Kate, THANK YOU! THANK YOU AGAIN FOR RUNNING HOME AND TAKING TIME OUT OF YOUR BUSY BUSY BUSY BUSY BUSY schedule of responding to 2 emails and telling your assistants to scrub the house top to bottom and also buy groceries and also make dinner and then clean up and then mow the lawn. THANK YOU! THANK YOU for this post because we (AS IN THE ENTIRE WORLD, 8 BILLION PEOPLE AND COUNTING) were all waiting for this recap of your INCREDIBLY WILD RIDE!! SO THANKS AGAIN! LOVE, ONE OF YOUR BILLIONS OF FANS, L!
Do you think the mentally ill really do see the world in a completely different way than normal people? Like what normal people see as ridiculous to them is very serious and righteous?
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ABSOLUTELY! Her life is one big huge vendetta, chapter after chapter after chapter....
the fans and non-fans too.
RWA shut down. Whoa!
I am so, so, so sad for Jon's children having to once again read that their mother is trying to sue and jail their father. I can not begin to imagine their fear.
This is beyond cruel.
Tucker's Mom said... 123
RWA shut down. Whoa!
I am so, so, so sad for Jon's children having to once again read that their mother is trying to sue and jail their father. I can not begin to imagine their fear.
This is beyond cruel.
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As much as Kate tweets all the fake platitudes about positivity and nohate,etc she shows just how hateful she is with her tweet last night linking to the RO article with information about lawsuit against Jon. She showed no love or concern for her kids which are also Jon's kids.
Kate proves over and over again that she HATEs Jon more than she loves her kids.
Localyocal that comment almost caused MY most embarrassing moment.
This lawsuit business is crazy and confusing. If Kate thinks it will keep her relevant she's nuttier than I thought. She will go to any lengths to keep herself in the tabloids, kids be damned. If there is a lawsuit both sides will be heard and Kate and her crazy sheep are just as bad if not worse. I can't believe they're actually celebrating.
Why not say goodbye in the morning and leave them.
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For attention. Probably in front of all the other parents. Just like that old pap clip, out on their road? THAT'S where the "exchange" had to happen?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbfc0zc9gB
Please, Kate, grow up. Make wise maternal decisions. All publicity is not good attention.
You should be humiliated by the ROL article, not drawing attention to it.
Kate, think about how all this will affect your children.
Please.
You should be humiliated by the ROL article, not drawing attention to it.
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Shows the depths of her pathology. I'd be contacting ROL begging them to not print anything about their father. Begging.
I hope that Jon will try to take action and stop Kate from cavorting with the likes of ROL. Stop the sick relationship with BV, stop tweeting and writing about specific kids(do we really need to know that it was Cara that spilled popcorn?) and stop scarring the bejezus out of the children by threatening to sue their dad penniless and throw him in jail.
Sick, sick, sick.
I usually support Jon's silence, but this calls for action once and for all. He has to do something. I hope he is. The children need to be protected from this.
I don't think Kate is that interested in full custody. I think her primary motive is to ruin/hurt Jon. Such a mean, bitter, vindictive, spiteful person. How ugly.
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I think she's interested in full custody to the extent it will SPITE Jon. Not because she sincerely wants her children.
Local that was a hysterical comment on the bog!
She has the worst timing. THe last time there was buzz about BV was during the Boston bombings. Now she calls them heroes within hours of SIX PEOPLE being shot and killed in some sick rampage. Just, really nice awareness there Kate. Real nice.
ABSOLUTELY! Her life is one big huge vendetta, chapter after chapter after chapter....
the fans and non-fans too.
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You're right. They keep score and tally "points." Nothing is ever let go or forgiven. Nothing is ever moved on from. Some minor transgression from four years ago is held against you forever. One wrong move that never occurred ever again is NEVER forgiven. I cannot imagine how these people are in real life.
She's about to do what I feared most, alienating their father from them by any means possible. This lawsuit is only the beginning mark my word. I've stated before the devastating effects this is going to have on those kids and it makes me ill, really really ill. She has no intuitive or mothering skill at all. None. She will do whatever she needs to do to enact revenge on Jon (and Robert)and sink as low and spin any lies needed. Any - including the worst and most depraved you can think of all in order to get her way. Because getting her way is the only thing she cares about. She needs to be stopped and stopped now. I pray to God that an attorney specializing in father's rights will help Jon, pro bono if necessary. You will never redeem yourself to the public Kate. Everyone knows what you are and after slinging more mud at Jon then you already have, you'll be even more reviled, if that's even possible. And Robert, release that darn book - all of it - as soon as possible. Not only will it make you $$$, but perhaps save those kids from being taken out of Jon's custody. Give her all that you have and take her down. It's the only thing that might stop this moron.
Has anyone addressed this?
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I'm confused, and it's not the Rumspringa. Well, not entirely the Rumspringa. ROL talks about a subpoena. What does a subpoena served on a blog owner have to do with Kate's lawsuit against Jon (and Robert)? Is this part of the class action lawsuit that is supposedly being served on some of the non-fans? And why even mention criminal charges? That's a totally separate issue -- those are crimes. It has nothing to do with Kate's lawsuit against Jon. How many suits are being filed, and against whom?
Because I'm still confused.
Does anyone remember the emails that were released concerning Hailey's (possible) lawsuit against Kate? In one, Kate was begging Hailey to let her use the texts from Jon, and said she HAD to get her kids away from Jon. There was also a story at that time about Kate wanting to move to LA. Perhaps kate is thinking that living in the middle of nowhere is hurting her chances of being on TV, and thinks if she moves to LA, she'll be able to get a new show. After all, what is there to film in Wernersville? TLC already did that, and it flopped. Or if she wants to pimp out Mady, it would be easier if she were in LA. So, Kate may be trying to get the kids away from Jon to move. She may think she can cut off his parental rights and get out of PA, and become a major star in Hollywood. She's just delusional enough to believe that.
Is Kate trying to tie in the publication of GosselinBook with RWA's dislike of her? Because that blog has apparently been around for 6 years, long before the book was even started. What does that blog have to do with the book, Jon, or RH? Did anyone on Twitter or at RWA actually make death threats? If, for example, someone made a threat on RWA, then how is it Jon's fault?Kate's fans are constantly screaming about death threats, but I have never seen one anywhere. They even claim that the kids' lives have been threatened. Where? By whom? I think everyone has been very careful to NOT involve the kids in their dislike of Kate.
This lawsuit is about revenge. Kate wants to crush anyone who stands in her way. Jon, RH, dissenting tweeters, bloggers, etc. What next? Her career is over, and she is furious, and looking for someone to blame. She cannot comprehend that it's her own fault, because in her opinion, she has no faults. She thinks she is this beautiful, entertaining, fascinating person who belongs in front of a camera. She has been abandoned in an isolated farmhouse with 8 kids to take care of, her finances dwindling, and no cameras around to make her feel special. She is going to make someone pay.
Speaking of paying, is she paying for this? I know lawyers will take lawsuits and take part of the settlement as payment, but neither Jon nor Robert has any money. What are the actual damages anyway? Is a tell-all book grounds for a lawsuit? How did Kitty Kelley get away with hers then? Does Kate have to answer to all of her abuse in open court? Could she lose custody because of it?
This is all very confusing.
Just imagine a world without twitter. Nobody would know anything about KG anymore because the media world has left her in the dust. She's a SAHM with 8 chldren, a weekly web bog piece, and a long, long summer in front of her. No running trips, no book tour, nada, zilch. Refreshingly mediocre. I think this lawsuit is a whole lot of whoo-ha. Pass the popcorn.
Dmasy said... 127
Please, Kate, grow up. Make wise maternal decisions. All publicity is not good attention.
You should be humiliated by the ROL article, not drawing attention to it.
Kate, think about how all this will affect your children.
Please.
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Right! And what happened to ROL being lies, all lies? So they only print lies when they report Kate in what she perceives to be a negative light? Kate has so little self-awareness that she doesn't realize that this article, too, makes her look petty and vindictive. She thinks she's #winning when in fact she's a #badmom. (Hashtags for Milo.)
Regarding the RWA blog owner's subpeona, it appears that it was filed to gather information from her site, perhaps Internet addresses to track down those who made death threats. Since it was not a summons, looks like LisaK is not being sued. What I am confused about is how this ties in to Kate's supposed lawsuit against Robert and Jon. Possibly different lawsuits?
Here are some questions regarding internet death threats: Wouldn't a prudent person first obtain a restraining order if you are being threatened? Or aren't you supposed to go to your local police and report it? I know it's a felony so any folks on RWA or twitter who did that are in big trouble, but what if Kate did nothing about it for years?
As far as this claim that Kate has been hurt financially, she would have to prove damages. Well, she has not been damaged because she has taken in income from various jobs since TLC.
Death threats on a blog/Twitter have no relationship to a Jon/Robert conspiracy to financially ruin Kate. Oh well. I guess we won't be seeing Robert's book.
With regards to Kate's latest blog--the kids' bus stop is at a shopping mall. Plenty of gas stations nearby. More lies from Kate.
It's interesting that the lawsuit story is unfolding just as the kids finish the school year. She can keep them isolated for almost 3 months so they don"t hear about it at school. Let's hope that this means she realizes the negative effects her actions have on the kids' well-being. Not that it will stop her.
If this lawsuit does not go well, she could end up losing everything. That's a big risk to take with 8 kids. She has secrets that will be exposed. She will be even less desirable for a career in the media. Her name will be synonymous with controversy, vindictiveness, and parental alienation. The ugliness of it all will destroy her. Why can"t she see this? She just can't help herself, can she?
To the best of my ability to research, I find no vs. Hoffman, Gosselin in any Federal dockets nor any state dockets.
I'm not perfect and there may be a case somewhere pending on the state level that I missed (a court I didn't check) but I can tell you with reasonable certainty that there is no federal case filed yet against these two men.
My suspicion is that they will try and target those people who made threats online (and even then they'd have to prove intent and a reasonable ability to carry out the threat) and charge them with some sort of crime. This could be a criminal investigation into that matter.
But as to her lawsuit against Robert and Jon, I'm not too worried. I don't think she could prove a crime was committed and so at most she'd get a financial settlement in civil court that would be up to her to collect. It would be a Pyrrhic victory at best. She'd get a headline on Radar touting her "victory" and then she'd fade back into obscurity.
And how would that impact the court's ruling on custody? Unless she can prove that the children are in danger in Jon's presence, I don't think family court would strip him of any visitation/custody he has currently.
She's an idgit who is wasting her money to prove she's right. Money that cost her a marriage. Money that was earned off the backs of her kids because let's be frank, without her eight kids she never would have been on tv in the first place.
I wonder what the color is in Kate's world?
What do Ithink is going to happen in the Leann Rimes case?
I think the teacher will be prosecuted, will cut a plea deal for a misdemeanor and will have to do xxx amount of probation and pay a fine. She will have to notify the state dept. on teacher credentialing regarding her conviction and they will have to review her case to see if she keeps her credential. Once the terms of her probation are met, she may be able to file to have her record expunged. It will still show up for things like her credential but it at least shows that you worked to make amends and are no longer considered a threat to society.
Right! And what happened to ROL being lies, all lies?
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I guess Kate had to pay the rent, right? Isn't that why people get articles in ROL. Does BV have to pay rent, Kate?
Robert, your name is being called Mud again. I hope you release whatever it is that you have in order to halt this constant threatening of Jon and of you. Kate has to know that every bit of dirt is going to come out.
The kids need this to stop because you KNOW they see it. You KNEW their friends see it and talk about it. I can't imagine what stresses they're experiencing because Kate wants to destroy Jon.
Sillimom, agree with what you just said. I have the same head scratching questions about the things about this that smell funny and don't add up. Maybe RWA could provide a case number that was on their subpoena? Or the name of their attorneys? How can they enforce a subpoena without a case. This smells SO bad of a SLAPP case I could spit.
Family law court is NOT GOING TO CARE about this. They just won't. Does Kate know how many children in family law court have wealthy parents suing each other over various disagreements? It has no bearing on who gets the kids when. That's already been determined, and no amount of suing anyone will change that. She may have even been told that it's unlikely to make a difference, however a parental alienator does not think rationally and will ignore rational advice and ignore rational predictions of what will likely happen. Even if you tell her Kate, 99.9% this won't make a shred of difference, she will hang onto that .01% and be convinced that she will be the one person where it will.
I also agree with this statement: "This lawsuit is about revenge. Kate wants to crush anyone who stands in her way. Jon, RH, dissenting tweeters, bloggers, etc. What next? Her career is over, and she is furious, and looking for someone to blame. She cannot comprehend that it's her own fault, because in her opinion, she has no faults. She thinks she is this beautiful, entertaining, fascinating person who belongs in front of a camera."
Exactly, she is a blamer. She never looks to herself. There is always some other reason or some other person to blame. If she spent half as much time trying to improve her own faults, in therapy, with a life coach, with some kind of acting class or public speaking trainer to help her perform better on camera, as she does on trying to GET those she perceives as having "wronged" her, she might actually get somewhere.
Why can"t she see this? She just can't help herself, can she?
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She is the proverbial scorpion and Jon is the frog.
It's just in her nature.
Wow. So this opens Kate up to some hard questions and allows Robert to get whatever else he might have out there right?
Won't it also allow Jon and Robert to subpoena Twitter and pro-Kate blogs? I can't wait to find out who some of her most loyal fans really are!
Should make for good reading.
You know what I'm realizing? For as much as our good intentions have been to try to give them privacy and get them off T.V., these kids if they have issues as they get older, are going to be far more messed up because of the parental alienation, negativity and vileness of their crazy mentally ill vindictive delusional mother, than they ever will about some filming they did when they were toddlers that they probably barely even remember at this point. Sad.
Layla 137 said : If this lawsuit does not go well, she could end up losing everything. That's a big risk to take with 8 kids. She has secrets that will be exposed. She will be even less desirable for a career in the media. Her name will be synonymous with controversy, vindictiveness, and parental alienation. The ugliness of it all will destroy her. Why can"t she see this? She just can't help herself, can she?
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Her name already is synonymous with those things. It makes for good controversy on a show like CWS but not for a long term reality show.
And I don't think she cares if the kids know about this mess or not. It's ultimately about Kate needing her version of reality to be right.
Won't it also allow Jon and Robert to subpoena Twitter and pro-Kate blogs? I can't wait to find out who some of her most loyal fans really are!
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And MsGoody for wishing Jon be in an accident and in a coma. How sick is that?
Her twitter is laced with venom for the father of the Gosselin children. It is relentless and I'd love to Jon go after her to stop it.
Kelly, the book won't make Robert $$$. To be honest, only a very few people even care about who Kate is. I don't see it selling enough copies.
Here's a refresher course in obsessed parental alienators, the worst of the three categories of alienators that Dr. Douglass Darnall, a psychogist, has identified. He has worked on over NINE-HUNDRED child custody cases, he knows his stuff. This really helps explain the mentality of this sick woman and why she would do this:
The characteristics of an obsessed alienator are:
They are obsessed with destroying the children's relationship with the targeted parent.
They having succeeded in enmeshing the children's personalities and beliefs about the other parent with their own.
The children will parrot the obsessed alienator rather than express their own feelings from personal experience with the other parent.
The targeted parent and often the children cannot tell you the reasons for their feelings.
Their beliefs sometimes becoming delusional and irrational. No one, especially the court, can convince obsessed alienators that they are wrong. Anyone who tries is the enemy. (ding, ding, ding!)
They will often seek support from family members, quasi-political groups or friends that will share in their beliefs that they are victimized by the other parent and the system. The battle becomes "us against them." The obsessed alienator's supporters are often seen at the court hearings even though they haven't been subpoenaed. (her twit-fans)
They have an unquenchable anger because they believe that the targeted parent has victimized them and whatever they do to protect the children is justified.
They have a desire for the court to punish the other parent with court orders that would interfere or block the targeted parent from seeing the children. This confirms in the obsessed alienator's mind that he or she was right all the time.
The court's authority does not intimidate them.
The obsessed alienator believes in a higher cause, protecting the children at all cost.
The obsessed alienator will probably not want to read what is on these pages because the content just makes them angrier.
Admin is this possible. I know Kate loves to strong arm, bully and scare people into getting what she wants. Could the "subpoena" or other "legal documents" that have been sent out, not on the up and up? Meaning, she knows they won't hold up in a court of law but sends them out to scare people into submission. If they actually challenged it, she would be screwed. She tried with Robert last year and it didn't work, he didn't back down. She also tried with Kevin and Jodi in 2009, that also didn't work. She can't silence people speaking out about child welfare. The law protects people so they can feel safe in reporting child abuse and neglect without fear of law suit. Kate immediately wanted to know if she could sue Kevin and Jodi for there speak out. Obviously she was advised she could not, so she comes up with her own spin doctoring for the situation.
But is it possible all this legal talk is smoke and mirrors to scare people into submission, because they fear financial ruin if they don't? That is her MO in my view. I also applaud Jon for not uttering a single word since any of this started. She is desperately hoping he will react and speak out to the media. He is ignoring it. He's smart, she's pathetic.
Your lawsuits WON'T make you a star, Katie Irene. No amount of crocodile tears on the talk show circuit while promoting your crookbook will make it so, either.
You are a washed-up has-been and are only requested for a very few gigs because no one else will do it and some kind of a draw is needed. And even those are very, very far and few between, no? People are laughing AT you, not WITH you.
Say goodbye, Katie. Don't let the door hit ya.
Here are some questions regarding internet death threats: Wouldn't a prudent person first obtain a restraining order if you are being threatened? Or aren't you supposed to go to your local police and report it
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The only word for this is "duh." That would be my first question on cross examination. Ms. Gosselin, if you were so in fear for your life, where is your police report? Surely if you were so frightened, you would immediately have dialed 9-1-1, did you not? I've asked the exact same question before.
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As far as this claim that Kate has been hurt financially, she would have to prove damages. Well, she has not been damaged because she has taken in income from various jobs since TLC.
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Exactly, she has spent the past three years convincing us everything is just FINE in Gosselin land, OOPS!! She blabs on and on about all the work she has, how busy she is, how she has this and that project on the horizon, a book, CWS, blogging, marathons, busy busy bee. All her blabbing catches up. How can you prove a career was affected whatsoever with all this busy bee-ness you've bragged about? Shouldn't have blabbed so much about how well things are going if you want to sue about how your career has been negatively impacted. When's the last time she said whoa is me I'm bored I have nothing to do I don't work I've been destroyed? OOPS.
I would also subpoena Scott from CC who would explain that it was not the fans or some book that got her fired but her own bad behavior. She cannot blame anyone but herself for that fiasco and Scott laid it all out very clearly. He was very clear it was HER, not the fans, who got herself fired.
You know what.....this lawsuit is a road to nowhere.
And yes Ally I would not put it past them to use intimidation tactics that have no legal backing. Marty Singer who used to be her lawyer is famous for it and is fighting one of his bad behaviors right now in the appellate court. I have an email alert on that case for any new motions, I'm watching it.
Tucker's Mom said... 139
The kids need this to stop because you KNOW they see it. You KNEW their friends see it and talk about it. I can't imagine what stresses they're experiencing because Kate wants to destroy Jon.
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We all know that the Gkids do see it and read it and live it. No matter how many times Kate claims the kids do not go on the internet, etc., those Gkids hear and read about it. M&C are in Middle School where 99.9% of their peers have access to all this Gosselin news at any time to search or read on twitter, this blog, or any other internet search.
And as any parent knows, Middle School grades are the years when alot of the "drama" starts especially with girls. There is no way that M&C don't have girls in their school talking about what Kate is putting out there every day on twitter, etc. Just no way that I will ever believe her kids are that isolated from the internet and social media.
Kate's pursuit to sue, and destroy Jon demostrates that she has NO concern for who gets hurt even when it is her kids under her own roof.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 153
I would also subpoena Scott from CC who would explain that it was not the fans or some book that got her fired but her own bad behavior
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espn again!
I was just thinking "why doesn't she sue Scott for his public shit canning?"
Yes, the vast majority of CCs readers hated her, but CC actually stood by her and supported Kate.
Another point of confusion for me is the admin of RWA said she had the subpoena "verified" and it's real. So if there's no case how can that be?
Tucker's Mom said... 155
espn again!
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I think you're right. Some sort of play-by-play announcer will be needed when this lawsuit starts playing out. LOL
You know what.....this lawsuit is a road to nowhere.
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I wonder what was so threatening that RWA shut down. Were there really serious death threats? And come to think of it, where is Steve in all of this? If Kate is truly being threatened, why isn't he involved?
Steve has stated that she's gotten threats before, so why no restraining orders or lawsuits?
CC stood by her crappy blog posts FOREVER. They tried to make it work with her FOREVER. Due to the sudden drastic change in writing style the last few blog posts I think they even brought in a ghost writer or editor to try to help her. They finally had had it with her. A better man would have canned her ages before Scott ever did. I'm glad he didn't just let her contract run out, he made sure he put it out there why he was being fired and in the process made it clear it was NOT because they were bullied or intimidated by those who don't like Kate. It was Kate's behavior. How did anyone make Kate do whatever it is she did that ticked him off?
She was given every opportunity at that job and she blew it. Narcissists can't hold down jobs for long which is why the entertainment business is so well suited for them since they can flutter from job to job and it's normal.
Luke's Mom said... 154
We all know that the Gkids do see it and read it and live it. No matter how many times Kate claims the kids do not go on the internet, etc., those Gkids hear and read about it. M&C are in Middle School where 99.9% of their peers have access to all this Gosselin news at any time to search or read on twitter, this blog, or any other internet search.
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I've said this as well she may have control of the kids use of the internet via Iphone or Ipad or laptops.
But she can't control the other children's internet uses or how they use it.
So the kids may not see it at home but it doesn't mean they won't see it else where.
Tucker's Mom said... 157
Exactly isn't this Steve job to protect her and the kids from all threats?
What is he doing what is his purpose if he's not doing what he's getting paid to supposedly do.
If Kate and BV do sue Robert& Jon & The haters.
Then Kate needs to be exposed and so does Steve and her followers-(Milo Goody)It's only far.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 16m
" Friendship isn't about who you have known the longest. It's about who came and never left your side..." fr IamWise So true...#Loyalty
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And then there's Martyr Milo, standing bravely by the side of her noble heroine Kate. Even though Kate hasn't tweeted her since May 26--and that tweet was more directed to Paige. Milo had just "inserted herself" into the conversation.
Milo says she's hoping this gets national media attention. If it does, Kate's going to look like an a$$ on a broad scale. Careful what you wish for, Milo!
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 35m
@AskBabyMama @Kateplusmy8 @BullyVille I'm hoping what Kate & Mr.McGibney have done gets national media attn. They stood their ground! :)
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To heck with any embarrassment/insecurities the kids might experience, right Milo?
ITA, the subpeona for RWA is more for itimidation and to shut it down( I believe LisaK did this on the advice of her attorney). It's a hunting exhibition. I only read over there, never commented. Too much potty mouth, but I never saw any death threats. Jon could go after some of Kate's fans like MsGoody who makes vile threatening comments about him. This will open up a can if worms but Kate fails to see that. And I doubt Robert will back down. He knows way more than he has ever said publicly.
And then there's Martyr Milo, standing bravely by the side of her noble heroine Kate. Even though Kate hasn't tweeted her since May 26--and that tweet was more directed to Paige. Milo had just "inserted herself" into the conversation.
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Also this isn't the first time Kate ignored Milo for a long period of time.
They also never met in person Milo wasn't invited for the summer but Em and others were.
Milo was going through a rough time and Kate didn't tweet to her.
Kate brought this all on herself. If I were her, the moment I got anything that could be construed as a death threat to me or my children, I would have just STOPPED USING TWITTER!! That would have put an end to it, but she chose to engage with these people and now she's crying about it.
She should have worked on improving her website and maybe branched out from there.
By using Twitter in the manner she does, she's just inviting the crazies (fans and non-fans), and I believe she thrives on all the drama.
Unless there were some serious threats against her that we don't know about, I am also scratching my head at this lawsuit. What do Robert Hoffman and Jon have to do with the "haters"?
I would be mortified if I were her. But we all know she just wants the attention, the consequences and the effects on her children because of this nonsense be damned.
So Milo wants this to get national attention? She's probably already dreaming of Kate appearing on the View, Katie, ET and other shows.
Be careful what you wish for, Milo. This could literally explode in Kate's face, and bring even more detractors into the mix.
So far, the only "attention" this has gotten is from ROL and Mary Jane at the Examiner.
However, I, for one, would love to see Anderson Cooper's take on this story. That would be something I'd definitely watch.
Yes! If Steve were a "true" security guard, wouldn't he have notified the authorities about death threats years ago? He could have investigated who was making threats on the Internet too. #faker
Admin, I wouldn't have expected anything less from Kate. Of course her attorney is as corrupt as she is. I've met many good, professional lawyers and Marty Singer is exactly the type of lawyer that gives lawyers a bad rep. My ex husband had a slimy attorney who verbally bashed me and hit below the belt all the time. My attorney actually had to warn me before I read them, to not get upset. I wanted nothing more than to hit back. My attorney was better than that and told me not to engage in that game. It was hard. I bit my tongue. But in the end, we looked leaps and bounds better. When I asked around about my exes attorney, I found out she was not a reputable attorney. You really have to wonder about people that have to resort to mud slinging to get what you want rather than using a brain.
Shouldn't have blabbed so much about how well things are going if you want to sue about how your career has been negatively impacted
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Not only her career, but her lifestyle. I'd like to her a judge ask her how, if she has been destroyed, one single mother can afford to drive and maintain three luxury cars. If she's in financial distress, then you give up two of those cars and keep the one that all of the children can ride in. You fill in the swimming pool (pools are a huge expense), or you sell the property and downsize to something that is more manageable. Proving damages may indeed be difficult. Was her firing from CC a result of harassment on a blog or on Twitter? Is her cookbook not selling because of negative remarks about her, or directed at her on a blog or Twitter? How exactly is her career in the toilet because of the "haters?" It's all going to have to be linked together. Wouldn't a judge say, "Why didn't you just close down your Twitter?"
I'm not understanding this lawsuit. The ROL article quotes RWA as having received a subpoena. A subpoena is not the same as a summons for a lawsuit. So was RWA SUED, or just issued a subpoena, which usually means that documentation or testimony is required in a lawsuit?
How many lawsuits are going on here, and who is doing the suing?
Also, the sheeple are doing their happy dance because RWA shut down. They seem to think that BV made them shut down their site. The site isn't shut down, the old posts are still there. However, no new comments are allowed, and there will be no new posts.
I think the owner shut down the site to protect her posters, not because she had to. That's a concept, that Kate's enablers can't grasp.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 2h
@Kateplusmy8 "What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us.” ~ Thoreau
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You got that Milo.
Kate lied in the past she lies now and I bet she'll keep on lying.
And what lies with Kate is her lies.
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Admin - I didn't really know what a SLAPP case was so had to look it up. Here's an interesting article that I found. After doing some research you're right, this does sound like a SLAPP case.
http://www.dmlp.org/legal-guide/responding-strategic-lawsuits-against-public-participation-slapps
I am thinking that some of Kate's fans took screen shots of alleged death threats and sent them to Bullyville. BV's attorney could have used these for a case and then got a judge to order the subpoena to get an ID on those RWA commenters. I think rather than this getting fought in court, it will get settled and BV will claim victory.
Why BV would be involved in a suit against Jon and Robert, I don't understand that at all.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 35m
@AskBabyMama @Kateplusmy8 @BullyVille I'm hoping what Kate & Mr.McGibney have done gets national media attn. They stood their ground! :)
Milo, the NATION doesn't give a darn about Kate Gosselin's war with her ex-husband. Get that through your head and stop your idiotic idol worship of BV.
What Kate has done? What she has done is to demonstrate that she will stop at nothing to destroy the father of her children, possibly alienating them from him -- all because of revenge. THAT'S what Kate has done. Not something of which to be proud.
The RWA site said they got a subpoena and the lawsuit was Kate against Jon.
She also said she closed down her blog to protect the visitors there. She may realize that a lot of them may continue to comment and put themselves in jeopardy.
I think Kate will go after this blog next. She wants to stamp out any blogs that are against her.
Also, the ROL guy IMPerel on Twitter tweeted that there will be more follow up stories in the days and weeks to come.
That courtroom should be one interesting place. I personally don't see it reaching a courtroom.
I think the owner shut down the site to protect her posters, not because she had to. That's a concept, that Kate's enablers can't grasp.
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No of course not. They can't grasp that for some people throwing in the towel just means you don't want the aggravation anymore. They didn't "win" anything. Someone simply decided they don't want to play anymore. That's not the same as winning. This is how they spin everything. Jon, Sylvia, everyone who sort of said the heck with it and backed down from Kate, did so because YOU CAN NEVER WIN WITH A NARCISSIST. So why try? You're only going to hurt yourself. Normal, rational people know their own limitations and know when it's really not worth the aggravation anymore and so they get out like myself and so many other people here who have dealt with narcissists have done before. I think we all can describe that sort of lightbulb moment we all had where we realized, you know what, I am never getting anywhere with this narcissist. I cannot change her, I cannot "help" her, I cannot make her see, I cannot even do much for those around her. They are stuck with her, but I don't have to be stuck with her, I can get out. And so you take that brave breath and you leave.
Even as a lawyer, I feel very, very sorry for people like Milo who think some lawsuit will make it better. It won't. Lawsuits are a method of last resort and more often than not cause you more heartache. Although it's your right to sue if a legitimate wrong will occur, there is no guarantee it will fix anything. What is the end game here? To get money? She has money, apparently plenty of money to maintain this lifestyle. How much more does she need? Is the end game to get the kids? She talks like she has the kids all the time. She really has to have them even MORE? Is the end game to "ruin" Jon and "win" against Jon? Does she truly think that that will make her heart of stone feel better? It won't.
It IS a SLAPP suit. From the article: "Most SLAPPs ultimately would fail if litigated fully, but the SLAPP filer doesn't usually intend to do so. As previously mentioned, the point of a SLAPP is to intimidate and silence the target through the threat of an expensive lawsuit. Although the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution protects freedom of speech, the U.S. legal system generally gives the benefit of the doubt to a party bringing a lawsuit until the fact-finding stage, and a winning defendant is not usually entitled to recover attorneys' fees to cover the expense of legal defense (as in some other countries). This means that, even if the claim ultimately fails, the process of defending against a SLAPP through the legal system can be a daunting and expensive prospect for many individuals."
Kate, BV, and Perel at ROL are in bed with this story. Examiner and those other internet celeb sites will only regurgitate what is on ROL. No one cares about RWA enough to make it a major story.
Go after this blog for what exactly? Perhaps I should dust off my Anti-SLAPP motion and have it all ready to go. :)
What is her case number for Kate vs Jon? It would be public record, and celebrity journalists comb dockets every day looking for celebrity suits. This is how we hear about them. How come it hasn't come to light?
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Hi @Kateplusmy8, did you get your copy of @MK_Brownlow book #InTooDeep yet?! I just did at her book signing. Great summertime read poolside
So old Brownie is doing book signings! I doubt if Kate will read this book. It's about teens and college students and love affairs! I'm not sure Kate can relate! She sold four books on Amazon, and I doubt if Kate is one of those who bought it.
From ROL:
"The subpoena for information from Reality Without Apologies will help Kate gather information for her upcoming lawsuit."
What about the fan blogs? I would think that as a countermeasure they can also be subpoenaed for info on their posters and their comments. They seem to think that BV will protect them and that they are immune from any repercussions.
IMO, BV is using all of them, including Kate.
Bullyville can't be a plaintiff in any of these suits. Bullyville has not been wronged or threatened or harassed, allegedly. They are not attorneys from what I can tell. Only Kate can be the plaintiff. Why does everyone say Kate and Bullyville as if they are a team of plaintiffs? Does ROL not understand that concept? How is it the Kate ALWAYS gets someone else to do her dirty work for her? She has never, ever done anything for herself. What kind of power or spell does she have over people? I guess there are just that many people that are truly ignorant to common sense. That scares me.
Go after this blog for not liking her. It's a crime you know. ;)
Unless LisaK was assuming her subpoena was in relation to Kate's lawsuit against Jon and Robert, is it Kate's attorney's contention that the threats on the blog were directly related to and a result of Robert's book? How the heck could you prove such a thing when hate blogs against Kate have been around for many years? Does anyone know why Preesi shut down? Related?
I think the owner shut down the site to protect her posters, not because she had to. That's a concept, that Kate's enablers can't grasp
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Right. They are celebrating because they think that BV shut the blog down and are praising him because of it. They'll never be able to figure it out, so you just have to shake your head because it's all par for the course with the fans.
BV is based in Nevada. Would that have a bearing on where the case is filed if Kate and BV are in cahoots with a lawsuit?
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Did Kate actually invite twitter fans to her house this summer?
If she did, that has to be the dumbest idea ever. SMH.
Danielle B said... 166
Kate brought this all on herself. If I were her, the moment I got anything that could be construed as a death threat to me or my children, I would have just STOPPED USING TWITTER!
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And this shows what she really cares about.
Hey! MIlo found her "gs" -- will wonders never cease?
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Well, I guess that's one good thing to come out of this!
Wouldn't Brownie send Kate a free autographed copy of her book? I mean, this woman was carting a carload of stale cereal around for her after all.
Oops...maybe she's a bit upset she got blown off by Kate?
It makes sense to me. Lisa ran that blog as long as it wasn't a hassle for her. Now it's obviously become a hassle with lawsuits and subpoenas, etc and not worth her energy. Who wants to deal with that? Except maybe if you're an actual lawyer and can fight your own legal battle easily enough. ;)
Admin,
I didn't mean Kate would have a legal leg to stand on with your blog. I still think she will try to go after you thinking she can.
TLC stinks said... 176
Kate, BV, and Perel at ROL are in bed with this story. Examiner and those other internet celeb sites will only regurgitate what is on ROL. No one cares about RWA enough to make it a major story.
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I am seriously over ROL of late. They seem to be a one-trick pony. More and more, their own stories seem to contradict each other. Wasn't it ROL that verified the journal entries back when and now they're saying the journal entries haven't been verified? Which is it? Plus, forcing you to watch the same commercial repeatedly in order to read a story is most annoying.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 145
You know what I'm realizing? For as much as our good intentions have been to try to give them privacy and get them off T.V., these kids if they have issues as they get older, are going to be far more messed up because of the parental alienation, negativity and vileness of their crazy mentally ill vindictive delusional mother, than they ever will about some filming they did when they were toddlers that they probably barely even remember at this point. Sad.
Agreed. I think sometimes I feel like at this point all I'm doing is rubber necking. At one point do you look at something like this situation and just turn away? Commenting on Kate's antics isn't helping her kids any at this point, except perhaps for future reference. I mean, they may, at some point, decide to try and put this whole time in the life in perspective and it could be useful to read outside perspectives on what was going on.
The thing is, we probably don't even know the half of what goes on in that family. It may be better than we suppose, it may be worse.
The best thing Kate could do at this point, imo, would be to come out and make a statement that says while she is looking into suing Robert Hoffman, she is leaving Jon out of it for the sake of her kids.
BV has claimed before that he is not responsible for content posted at his sites, but he is merely a repository for the info. Which he claimed protected him under DMCA. So I'm not sure why he doesn't apply those same standards to Lisa. Isn't she just a repository also?
I'm going to put my conspiracy theorist cap on. IMO, I strongly suspect that Lisa may have received a letter (not a subpoena) stating that they have this, this and that against her, but if she immediately closes her blog, all legal action against her and her posters will be ended. Since she mentioned the death threats, I wonder if she was referring to the Kate on a bloody stick photo. Otherwise, what Lisa is saying and what the actual law is, just does't jibe. I don't think Kate gives a rat's ass about going after individual people and the time & cost associated with that. I think she just wanted RWA shut down. Looking around at other similar cases on the net, that's what most plaintiffs want. They just want the entity saying negative things about them to go away. Permanently.
And as far as the piece above about Kate trying to get custody, I agree that Family Court will not take away Jon's rights even if Kate wins some kind of action against him. But what about if Jon is looking at long legal bills and a drawn out lawsuit? If Kate told him he could make it go away if he lets her take the kids go to California and get in show business, couldn't they make their own private agreement?
Therein lies the difference, right? These people will not stop until they've drained everyone they hate of everything they have. You don't walk away from things. You don't throw in the towel. You never admit you've had enough. Because that's "losing."
Whereas people who are mature, normal, rational, and have the ability to reasonably assess what's important and what is not, know exactly when it is no longer worth it to fight a sociopath like Kate. It started with Sylvia walking away, she is a perfect example of someone who understands the concept. Sylvia did not "lose." Sylvia was not waving a white flag. Sylvia simply knew what was worth her time, effort, money and emotions and what wasn't. And Kate, decidedly, was NOT WORTH IT.
Here's a platitude for them from their BFF Donald Trump:
“Part of being a winner is knowing when enough is enough. Sometimes you have to give up the fight and walk away, and move on to something that's more productive.”
Just Down The Road said... 178
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Hi @Kateplusmy8, did you get your copy of @MK_Brownlow book #InTooDeep yet?! I just did at her book signing. Great summertime read poolside
So old Brownie is doing book signings! I doubt if Kate will read this book. It's about teens and college students and love affairs! I'm not sure Kate can relate! She sold four books on Amazon, and I doubt if Kate is one of those who bought it.
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If I remember right, Jennie and Brownie were friends in real life before Twitter. Jennie is probably helping Brownie out by letting Kate know about the book--since Brownie permanently ditched her Twitter account following the cereal fiasco. Kate won't give Brownie or Jennie the time of day, I betcha.
If I remember right, when Brownie tried to set up a get-together with Kate, Jennie jumped in and said she was coming too. They were both star struck together.
Here's a platitude for them from their BFF Donald Trump:
“Part of being a winner is knowing when enough is enough. Sometimes you have to give up the fight and walk away, and move on to something that's more productive.”
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It's not about winning, it's about being successful.
Oh, wait, my bad. I see Brownie does have her Twitter back! Because of the book, I guess.
Rob’s book, Kate Gosselin: How She Fooled The World, is filled with what appear to be emails from Kate, the Discovery network, contracts and personal documents, many of which Rob reproduced in their entirety. (Radar has independently verified that much of the material is genuine.)
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Radar, really? Really?
http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2012/10/kate-gosselin-tell-all-book-jon-gave-hard-drive-writer-pal-says-source/
Re: the In Too Deep. If you go to Amazon and look for that title what comes up is a soft-core porn (hardening, thrusting, the f word thrown around as in "He wanted to F### her", you get the drift). Written by Portia Da Costa. Brownlow's bio also lists her as a "Romance" writer so for a bit I was confused. Figured it out and had sort of a laugh. I always thought the title of the book was copyrighted right along with the contents. Guess I was wrong!
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