Monday afternoon, June 3. Check local listings.
Monday, June 3, 2013
Former child stars on Katie Couric
Katie will interview those who have been there before about Amanda Bynes and the hardships of growing up in the spotlight. Guests include Mara Wilson (Mrs. Doubtfire and Matilda), Candace Cameron (Full House), and Jaleel White (Urkel!).
Monday afternoon, June 3. Check local listings.
Monday afternoon, June 3. Check local listings.
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Chef summer 165...
Did Kate actually invite twitter fans to her house this summer?
If she did, that has to be the dumbest idea ever. SMH.
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It is very dumb indeed and yes she did she invited her twitter buddy EM over to the house.
Admin, since I am doing my semi-annual posting let me just add:
Of course they are coming after you. Don't you even remember the PROOF posted by Mr. BV linking you to Robert Hoffman. BVguy posted a picture of Mr. Hoffman on a stage. He did. How can you deny that connection? The assumption is that stage is on a college campus and that campus is the same one where you attended classes so that you probably, might have been maybe on that very same campus at some point in time very close maybe to the exact same time that Robert Hoffman was there. And if you can argue against that you are a very clever lawyer indeed. I would not waste a second dusting off that Anti-SLAPP motion.
LOL oh yeah forgot about that! The smoking gun! Did BV go to college? Wouldn't he know that colleges put on thousands of productions a year? I have no idea whether Robert has ever been to my college, I've never met the man. I do hope if he attended a production at my college though he enjoyed it! I wouldn't know how those go as I was too busy studying and working to have time for that. I didn't even know who Robert WAS when he said he was writing a book. I have exchanged all of three emails with the man, and they were simply to ask him for a copy of the book when it came out, which he provided. That kind of thing gives them no credibility.
I am seriously over ROL of late. They seem to be a one-trick pony. More and more, their own stories seem to contradict each other.
Wasn't it ROL that verified the journal entries back when and now they're saying the journal entries haven't been verified? Which is it? Plus, forcing you to watch the same commercial repeatedly in order to read a story is most annoying.
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I don't think that ROL ever said that the journals were verified, but they did say that other content in the book was.
In an article written by Amber Goodhand on Oct. 3, 2012, it states:
"Rob’s book, Kate Gosselin: How She Fooled The World, is filled with what appear to be emails from Kate, the Discovery network, contracts and personal documents, many of which Rob reproduced in their entirety. (Radar has independently verified that much of the material is genuine.)
The book also contains allegations that Kate has been violent with her children and allegations that cannot be repeated by Radar because they have not been sufficiently backed up"
http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2012/10/kate-gosselin-tell-all-book-jon-gave-hard-drive-writer-pal-says-source/
That article states that they cannot repeat the allegations because they had not been backed up, but in a previous article they printed the allegations about the beatings.
http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2012/09/kate-gosselin-discipline-babies-wooden-spoons-claims-reporter-robert-hoffman/
ROL now says that the journals have not been verified as genuine, but apparently they did verify that other contents of the book were. Of course, they neglect to mention that part in any of there more recent stories.
So yes, ROL does contradict their own stories. Right now, Kate and BV have earned their favor--yet back when the book came out, Robert was their pet.
Whatever is more sensational is the way ROL rolls.
Admin, don't you remember a thread a while back that named Kate's attorney and how he is involved in SLAPP's. Could you please find that for us and explain what a SLAPP is. Because that is what this IS about. Thanks, Leslie
None of the Kate-BV stuff was picked up by mainstream media. The online stuff, most people other then fans and non fans dont even read that stuff. Her typical resources ( View, Anderson, Lenno, etc) have not said a word about the BV -Kate connection.
Kate's a former reality star who , for whatever reason, did not follow the path she could have to continue to be earning an honest dollar!
This is another foot stomping temper tantrumming attempt to get everyone to "look at meeeeeeee!".
I feel sorry for Jon and the kids.
Sadly, the world does know about her narssistic personality and no one else has come forward to be her sidekick.
The Jodi's, the Beth's, the Ashley's and the Jamie's have long left, even Deanna seems to have long run away, that Now Kate has no one else to blame for her long and painful spiral out of the public eye, that she has to refocus on Jon.
That and bully ville is out to make a name for himself, that Kate's cause was a perfect scenario for the 2 of them.
They may win, but what will they lose in the process?
According to Wikepeka: A strategic lawsuit against public participation (SLAPP) is a lawsuit that is intended to censor, intimidate, and silence critics by burdening them with the cost of a legal defense until they abandon their criticism or opposition.[1]
The typical SLAPP plaintiff does not normally expect to win the lawsuit. The plaintiff's goals are accomplished if the defendant succumbs to fear, intimidation, mounting legal costs or simple exhaustion and abandons the criticism. A SLAPP may also intimidate others from participating in the debate. A SLAPP is often preceded by a legal threat. The difficulty is that plaintiffs do not present themselves to the Court admitting that their intent is to censor, intimidate or silence their critics. Hence, the difficulty in drafting SLAPP legislation, and in applying it, is to craft an approach which affords an early termination to invalid abusive suits, without denying a legitimate day in court to valid good faith claims.
SLAPPs take various forms but the most common is a civil suit for defamation, which in the English common law tradition is a tort. The common law of libel dates to the early 17th century and (unusual in English law) is reverse onus, meaning, once someone alleges a statement is libelous, the burden is on the defendant to prove that it is not. Various abusive uses of this law including political libel (criticism of the political actions or views of others) have ceased to exist in most places, but persist in some jurisdictions (notably British Columbia and Ontario) where political views can be held as defamatory. A common feature of SLAPP suits is forum shopping, wherein plaintiffs find courts that are more favourable towards the claims to be brought than the court in which the defendant (or sometimes plaintiffs) live.
Other widely mentioned elements of a SLAPP are the actual effectiveness at silencing critics, the timing of the suit, inclusion of extra or spurious defendants (such as relatives or hosts of legitimate defendants), inclusion of plaintiffs with no real claim (such as corporations that are affiliated with legitimate plaintiffs), making claims that are very difficult to disprove or rely on no written record, ambiguous or deliberately mangled wording that lets plaintiffs make spurious allegations without fear of perjury, refusal to consider any settlement (or none other than cash), characterization of all offers to settle as insincere, extensive and unnecessary demands for discovery, attempts to identify anonymous or pseudonymous critics, appeals on minor points of law, demands for broad rulings when appeal is accepted on such minor points of law, and attempts to run up defendants' costs even if this clearly costs more to the plaintiffs. Leslie
First Amendment and Anti-SLAPP Legal Resources
http://www.casp.net/california-anti-slapp-first-amendment-law-resources/
Leslie
By the way, just getting back to Kate's bog for a minute. The app she said that she uses to find gas stations was iWant.(with that name, no wonder she likes it). On her CC blog about her favorite apps, she writes:
"5) iWant. So, if I’m taking my kids out for an adventure, with this app I can easily find somewhere to eat, a diesel gas station (need this for my BBB and they can be hard to find!) or pick out an ice cream place if my kids need a treat. It also has restaurant reviews that help us decide where to stop! This app is definitely a timesaver and is my secret to always “having a travel plan.” With just a few taps, I have an address to program into my GPS to start our next adventure."
http://web.archive.org/web/20121023063759/http://www.couponcabin.com/blog/2012/08/06/kates-favorite-mobile-apps/
I was able to find her old CC posts using the wayback machine(archive.org). Here's the page that includes her rant about AC and Tony D. Just scroll down to find it. Maybe they should sue Kate for bullying them.
http://web.archive.org/web/20120523182113/http://www.couponcabin.com/blog/kate-gosselin/
Using the arrows on the top of the page(where the date is) you can find most, if not all, of her posts. If you open a post, use the back button to return to the list of articles.
Marc Randazza is Bullyville's attorney that won him the $250,000 judgement. But Bullyville ONLY won because the guy being sued never responded. Therefore Bullyville (James NcNibblets) won by default. I think this guy is helping Kate not with the Hoffman/Jon suit but with her other one. Leslie
But Bullvillle had standing in that case. They don't have standing in Kate's. At most they could help her but they can't file anything.
Chapter one in any Civil Procedure casebook is Standing.
Anyone here remember the princess boards? Well, they're still up and running, and still discussing Jon and Kate. This is a comment regarding the ROL article. Admin, I hope it's okay if I post it. If not-I understand.
"I think there is more than meets the eye with this article because what meets the eye is awfully blurry. It makes about as much sense as Kate's latest blog post. Bullyville is shady and his lawyer is shady (I posted about the lawyer a few pages back). The lawyer specializes in SLAPP suits.
Unless this blog that voluntarily shut down was posting nonstop death threats that the admin didn't delete (which would be pretty stupid), I doubt this has anything to do with the blog itself. There were probably things said or done on twitter or offline. And if this is a SLAPP suit, silencing Kate's enemies (the blog, Jon, and Robert Hoffman) will be considered a win and that will be the end of it. I mean, where would the money come from? None of these defendants sound like they could cover Kate's legal fees, let alone provide her a payday. I think she went into desperation mode when Robert Hoffman's book came out and reached out to people who have subsequently taken her for a ride. The fact that this story is only being covered by Radar -- AGAIN! -- and that article is based on statements from Bullyville -- AGAIN! -- is an indication that something is hinky.
Yep, I bet anything this is the attorney as far the "tweeters" in trouble go.Attorney Marc Randazza has his own Wikpedia page:
"He also represents media businesses such as BME and bloggers in SLAPP suits.[12][13]"
Leslie
Kate's parents must he so upset with all this bullshit by Bullyville lawsuit. And her parents and family must be mortified by Kate bringing a lawsuit against Jon.
And I bet all of Kate's old discarded friends are not surprised by all these lawsuits in the least. They know Kate best and what she is capable of. They are must be thrilled to have no contact with her anymore. Leslie
Blog owners who interact, edit, delete, and encourage people to "post anything they like" are very foolish if they think they have any protection under the communications act.
Bullyville was attacked, libeled and harassed on RWA so does this mean he has standing with his own case?
Well yes that's one thing but that's not what they're talking about that I can see. They're talking about Kate, Robert and Jon, mostly anyway. RWA seems to be a side issue, oh and by the way we got them shut down.
None of this makes much sense. Either people aren't explaining things properly, which is entirely possible I suppose, or things are not really as they are being told.
As far a Bullyville and Kate's tweeters I really don't think James or Kate thinks that this is going to end up in a courtroom. I think they both just want to scare the hell out of the vile tweeters into silence. And it has happened for the most part. Kate doesn't want money from those twitters. Yes, she is greedy but she doesn't want their families destroyed.
But Jon on the other hand is a different matter. I think Kate's motive in this lawsuit is to prove the book is all lies. Kate is rightfully is terrified of this book and its re-release. Even if Kate wins this lawsuit it still won't prove that her journals weren't fake or real. But Kate will be able to say that she sued over the book and won and the majority of the vast public would therefore just think the book was just trash. By Kate trashing the book in a court she can say the book is all trash. Therefore the book will have a horrible reputation and not be viewed as credible in the public.
But I think she is wrong and it will backfire. Kate is only bringing attention to what she wants silenced. If there is truly a police report as Robert claims stating he was there the night in the rain as Kate was throwing stuff out of the apt., then that one fact will lend tons of credibility to him. I hope it is true. Leslie
I think you are right Admin. Not all is being told here. But then again it's not smart to show all the cards in the media or on twitter when it comes to legal action.
No, but what you do say should make sense!
Not making sense keeps everyone guessing? IDK
LOL good old comment, timely:
Knows Quality has left a new comment on your post "Discussion Thread: Treehouse & Chicks 8/22/11":
Dear Reality Stars: There are about 300,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 stars in the universe. You are no big deal. That's reality.
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A lesson too late for some.
I think that the ''subpoena'' Lisa at RWA got was fishing for information for the so called 'class action'' suit that bv has talked about, which is different from the law suit that KK has said she was filing against Jon (and Robert)
As I understand it, the anti-SLAPP would be effective in dealing with information bv is trying to get from RWA.
As many times as it has been said, I'll say it again...KK hates Jon much more than she loves their children.
On the other hand, KK's lawsuit against Jon is her effort to prove that Jon gave the information to Robert, and they conspired to lie and say Robert found it in the garbage. KK's intention is to prove that Jon STOLE the information, and in her delusional mind, she believes if she can prove that, Jon will lose custody of the children. I think she believes that if she wins the lawsuit, she can strip Jon of all parental rights to the children. Even that isn't enough for KK. She not only wants to take away his parental rights to the children, but believes that winning the lawsuit (that he stole the stuff) will end up with Jon in jail.
Am I off base in my thinking?
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 20
No, but what you do say should make sense!
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I agree. Hard as I try I can't figure out why the admin of RWA has been subpoenaed to be questioned in regard to Kate's lawsuit against Jon and Robert.
Remona Blue said... 23
I think that the ''subpoena'' Lisa at RWA got was fishing for information for the so called 'class action'' suit that bv has talked about, which is different from the law suit that KK has said she was filing against Jon (and Robert)
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That makes more sense but Lisa said in her notification that she was closing the site:
"I was served with a subpoena today. They are gathering information for the lawsuit that Kate has against Jon and Robert."
Am I off base in my thinking?
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Agree. Kate will have to give sworn testimony, including the veracity of the journal, which I believe to be Kate's own words. What she writes about, and worse, much worse, as RH has said, will damage her far more than Jon.
A judge will read about the beatings and may decide she needs therapy and anger management. Also, the legal system might start to put 2&2 together and realize just how many millions they had when they were grifting money while pretending "to be normal in a 2 million dollar home"
It's going to open up a huge can of worms.
As I've said, I hope RH comes forward with the information he has now that people are being threatened with lawsuits and Jon continues to be alienated and sued.
I really think it's the right thing to do.
I was under the impression that BV believes Jon was paying the haters and that's why RWA was a target.
They also believe Jon pays this blog and all of the posters here. That's where all the money goes. TO US, not the kids or Jon's legal fees.
Whats this about somebody carting around a carful of cereal for Kate? I googled it but could'nt find anything, if anybody has the time could you please give me the scoop? Also, what is Kates BBB? Is that just a big suv?
Sorry for all the questions! I have been reading here for a couple of months and love it here but sometimes I have a hard time keeping up.
I'm going to post as "Margie" if thats okay, I have'nt seen anybody else with that name. If not I can always change it!
Admin, I love your blog, it's great!
Admin wrote...
"Narcissists can't hold down jobs for long which is why the entertainment business is so well suited for them since they can flutter from job to job and it's normal."
I don't know about most narcissists, but for mine, this is definitely not the case. She worked at the same job (as an office manager to a highly respected lawyer) for over 20 years.
The interesting thing is that this is what made it easier for her to discredit my claims of abuse. Who was going to believe me, a disgruntled teenager, over a woman who worked in the legal field and had proven herself an asset to her employer for nearly 2 decades?
I didn't stand a chance and it's one of the biggest reasons why I opted to just leave home and try to get on with my life.
And for the record, I wholeheartedly agree with your statement about lawsuits and how those who file them hoping for closure are often left disappointed...not to mention, financially worse off.
I've opted to lean toward the adage that 'the best revenge is a life well lived'.
I can never really undo the damage that was done to me but it doesn't mean I have to let it define me.
But I think she is wrong and it will backfire. Kate is only bringing attention to what she wants silenced. If there is truly a police report as Robert claims stating he was there the night in the rain as Kate was throwing stuff out of the apt., then that one fact will lend tons of credibility to him. I hope it is true. Leslie
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All of this may come back to bite her in the behind. I hope she had good advisers who looked at this from every angle, and if the outcome may have severe consequences.
What's next? BV has the Stir blog terminated because of the nasty comments on there? Will there be a subpoena sent to the Stir to obtain the IPs of its commenters? After all, if she is canned there, will it be a result of the negative comments? What about CC and its comments? Did she get fired there because readers just didn't like her blogs and called her out on some of the things she posted? Will they attempt to prove that she lost her job there because of the "haters?" Stay tuned...
Tweet-le--I can't figure that one out either. What would a non-fan blog have to do with a lawsuit against Jon or Robert? Yet ROL specifically stated:
"A popular blog that featured threats against Kate Gosselin has been shut down after receiving a subpoena for the reality star’s upcoming lawsuit against her ex husband, RadarOnline is reporting exclusively."
and
"The subpoena for information from Reality Without Apologies will help Kate gather information for her upcoming lawsuit."
Do they think that Jon or Robert were posters on the blog?
As other people have stated-it makes absolutely no sense.
I think she believes that if she wins the lawsuit, she can strip Jon of all parental rights to the children. Even that isn't enough for KK. She not only wants to take away his parental rights to the children, but believes that winning the lawsuit (that he stole the stuff) will end up with Jon in jail.
Am I off base in my thinking? 23
Not as far as I'm concerned. I have thought she's wanted Jon completely out of their lives since he wanted to stop the filming.
Bullyville was attacked, libeled and harassed on RWA so does this mean he has standing with his own case?
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I did read there occasionally, and from some of the things I saw regardiing BV and the lawsuit, they taunted him about there not being one, not being served, etc., and made a joke about it. You don't do this with someone like him, someone who is out to make a name for himself, be seen as a hero, someone with a huge ego. It's only going to tick him off even more and he WILL do something just to prove that he wasn't bluffing. I'm surprised that they didn't see that and keep quiet about it.
Wishing health and privacy for these babies.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ohio-woman-delivers-sets-twins-article-1.1366880
Goody is back to bashing Jon on twitter, still hoping Jon's visits with the kids will be now be supervised, and then Milo adds her 2 cents:
miloandjack
@msgoody2shoes21 @Kateplusmy8 A horrible, immature spiteful & hateful legacy he has left his kids in the treatment of their mother! #Sad
Milo, what about Kate suing Jon and her treatment of him? Is that the kind of legacy she should leave the children? Don't you think it's immature and spiteful to sue the father of your children who they love?
To me, this lawsuit shows Kate has no respect for her children's feelings at all. It's all about her, and always has been. Even if she feels that she has grounds for a lawsuit, it should be handled privately. Not by going to BV or ROL, and especially by publicly thanking and giving kudos to BV.
MsGoody2Shoes21 @msgoody2shoes21 1h
I read article that stated @Kateplusmy8 journals haven't been proven to be genuine. I figured as much since Jon, the ex frm hell, stole them
MsGoody2Shoes21 @msgoody2shoes21 49m
@LanaLanaBobanna @BHappyLoveLaugh @Kateplusmy8 Because of Jon's nefarious deeds against Kate I wonder if he'll get supervised visitation.
miloandjack
@msgoody2shoes21 @Kateplusmy8 A horrible, immature spiteful & hateful legacy he has left his kids in the treatment of their mother! #Sad
I hope Jon is paying close attention to what is being said about him on Twitter. I would think that with threats of lawsuits being thrown around, Milo, Goody and the rest of the flock wouldn't be dissing Jon so liberally with their tweets. They just don't know when to zip it.
I read article that stated @Kateplusmy8 journals haven't been proven to be genuine. I figured as much since Jon, the ex frm hell, stole them
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I love the logic. How does how journals were obtained prove or disprove whether they are genuine? LOL. They could have been altered, but the fact that they may have been taken doesn't make it so.
Supervised visitation? Oh yeah that will be real good for the kids with somebody looking over their shoulder when they are trying to just relax and hang out with their dad. I can promise this poor sheeple that nothing like this is ever going to be enough to justify monitored visits. Monitored visits are reserved for parents who are a danger to their kids, not two parents who are in some silly fight over journals from half a decade ago.
I am wondering what Kate think she'll get from Lisa at RWA. Would Lisa even know who all her posters are? Or does she just have IP addresses? If she supplies IP addresses, then how can anyone tell who was the person posting if there are multiple people using a single computer?
If, say, admin here were issued a subpoena, could she be forced to give the names/IP addresses of everyone who posts here? Could Kate drag us, one-by-one, to court because she does"t like what we have to say? What are the limits?
It would be interesting to see what would happen if someone refused to back down. If someone had the money to fight back, how far could it go? I'd love to see someone counter-sue. I'm wondering what her reaction would be. I don't think she'd back down, even if it cost her everything she has. She can't stand to lose.
Random thought: I would't put it past Kate to try to sue TLC, claiming they destroyed her when they cancelled the show. It HAS to be illegal to fire a mother of 8 (but not a mother of 6 or 9 or 10). Right?
Hi Margie!
The BBB is the big black (formerly blue) bus and a fan of Kate's bought a boat load of organic cereal for her, at a discount store. I don't think Kate ever took the cereal off her hands and she was really begging Kate to.
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I was under the impression that BV believes Jon was paying the haters and that's why RWA was a target.
They also believe Jon pays this blog and all of the posters here. That's where all the money goes. TO US, not the kids or Jon's legal fees.
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Wait! Whaaaa? I didn't get the memo. I shall send Jon my PayPal info asap! He owes me big time!
The sheeple are quick to mention death threats against them and Kate. But what about death threats made to Jon or Robert? Robert stated the following on his blog:
"If anyone receives a legal notice regarding a class action law suit, contact me to see if any of the plaintiffs are among the many, many Kate Gosselin supporters who emailed and Tweeted me death threats as well as calling me pedophile, stalker, child molester and every other vile name in the book.
Wouldn’t it be ironic if some of those same fans were part of the class action suit?"
I'm sure Robert has those emails and tweets saved. Somehow the sheeple conveniently forget that are guilty of the same thing they accuse others of.
What's next? BV has the Stir blog terminated because of the nasty comments on there? Will there be a subpoena sent to the Stir to obtain the IPs of its commenters? After all, if she is canned there, will it be a result of the negative comments? What about CC and its comments? Did she get fired there because readers just didn't like her blogs and called her out on some of the things she posted? Will they attempt to prove that she lost her job there because of the "haters?" Stay tuned...
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Can't you see it? And then Bruno and the other DTWS judges will be sued for calling Kate a dancing shopping cart!
Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said... 25
''I was served with a subpoena today. They are gathering information for the lawsuit that Kate has against Jon and Robert.''
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BUT, I think that she was repeating what they SAID they were gathering information for...that doesn't mean that is correct.
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Stupid is said... 27
''I was under the impression that BV believes Jon was paying the haters and that's why RWA was a target.
They also believe Jon pays this blog and all of the posters here. That's where all the money goes. TO US, not the kids or Jon's legal fees.''
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That wasn't my understanding (though I could be wrong) I thought that bv believes the anti-KK sites existed in order for the blog owners to make money from the hits to the site.
I guess the bottom line is that NONE of this makes a lick of sense to people who are logical thinkers and outside observers to KK and all her messes! I still think that KK has punked bv into doing her dirty work, and he still doesn't realize it.
Just Down The Road said... 36
MsGoody2Shoes21 @msgoody2shoes21 1h
I read article that stated @Kateplusmy8 journals haven't been proven to be genuine. I figured as much since Jon, the ex frm hell, stole them
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Here's where these dummies show virtually no logic skills. If the journals are not real, and made up by Jon and Robert, then how did Jon steal something that never existed?
Hmmm?
It's like they are unable to grasp that it looks pretty clear that Jon has long moved on from all this drama. They really think Jon sits around plotting to "get" Kate. The ONLY thing they can point to is some alleged incident from YEARS ago, like when he was dating Hailey time frame. HOW long ago was that again?? Geez Lousie. Heck he was even saying nice things about Kate last time he spoke to the press nine months ago or so. He's in a serious relationship, he has eight kids plus the girlfriend and his kids, apparently he works, I don't see how he would have the time or energy to plot against Kate. They seem incapable of understanding that most people, including Jon, probably have long moved on by now. The only time anyone else talks about it is when THEY bring it up.
Didn't McGiblets or whatever his name is tweet about a "money trail"? Actually, I think it may have been in reference to Admin..somehow he thinks Jon is in cahoots with "haters" and they have some sort of business arrangement. LOLOLOLOL
Monitored visits are reserved for parents who are a danger to their kids, not two parents who are in some silly fight over journals from half a decade ago.
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If anyone is getting supervision it's Kate. She BEAT her babies! Kate describes very dangerous, un babyproofed conditions in her house that she never remediated.
Nothing tied down or to walls, no visual supervision of 8 children when they were left alone...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4FLMprAwRk
Half way thru this video, Anderson interviews the "hero."
BabyMama has a tweet apparently trying to say we've been "attacking" her for years.
I would like to remind BabyMama that I have said over and over I LIKE her and that she is nothing like the rest of the fans. And I still have no issue with her. So whatever, BM.
OT, but discussed here from time to time. Language is fascinating.
http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/heat-maps-linguistic-trends-nation-article-1.1366388
They also believe Jon pays this blog and all of the posters here. That's where all the money goes. TO US, not the kids or Jon's legal fees.
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We're supposed to be getting PAID?!?!?
Great news! I could really use the extra cash right now. Where do I send Jon my bill?
Wait! Whaaaa? I didn't get the memo. I shall send Jon my PayPal info asap! He owes me big time!
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Is there a gofundme account somewhere that we don't all know about? Is that where it was deposited? All posters here deserve their share.
"Not by going to BV or ROL, and especially by publicly thanking and giving kudos to BV. "
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Exactly. That tweet was insane. IF she has someone advising her, either they are as inept as she is, or she just isn't listening. Publicly thanking him, praising him, etc., never should have taken place.
Margie said... 28
Whats this about somebody carting around a carful of cereal for Kate? I googled it but could'nt find anything, if anybody has the time could you please give me the scoop?
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The scoop of cereal? lol. This is from memory, so I might not have it exactly right.
One of Kate's tweeties, named Michele Brownlow, kept pestering Kate about a deal on nearly-expired cereal locally. (We began calling her Brownie.) Brownie tweeted Kate relentlessly about this old cereal until finally Kate told her to go ahead and pick her up some. Brownie loaded up on it and then resumed badgering Kate about meeting to get it. (It had seemed like a ploy all along to get to meet Kate.) This is where Jennie, Brownie's friend, tweeted Brownie, "If you go, I'm going with you!"
I don't think Kate ever responded to the cereal thing at all once Brownie had it.
Then there was something about Brownie's husband (I think?) getting in trouble, and non-fans began to point out that Brownie led some type of teenage girl group--it didn't seem like he should be around them. The whole cereal thing blew up on her. So a few months later, around December 2011, Brownie shut her Twitter down. Still with cereal in her trunk... : ) Kate never even asked about her once she was gone, even though Jennie would tweet Kate about Brownie occasionally.
They are also apparently unable to grasp that sometimes on the internet people with common interests gather together in one place, and, gasp, there is no money involved. None. Some people like to discuss mutual likes and dislikes for free!!
It doesn't surprise me someone so hyper focused on money wouldn't understand this.
BM is hardly even discussed here and her blog is on life support. One of the best rules here is no blog on blog, which I think became the heart of what RWA was, and it ticked people off.
We don't care about BM. Perhaps she's just trying to drive people to her blog so she's not talking to herself all the time.
Admin, you've stayed pretty positive about other bloggers who have bashed you over and over, so kudos for that.
BM, RWA's owner, any of Kate's supporters should not be hurt in any of this. Really, I enjoy chatting with all of you, but we're not curing cancer here.
Kate is vindictive and she doesn't care if she hurts anyone or takes away their money and livelihoods. If she can try to destroy the father of her kids, anyone is fair game.
BabyMama has a tweet apparently trying to say we've been "attacking" her for years.
I would like to remind BabyMama that I have said over and over I LIKE her and that she is nothing like the rest of the fans. And I still have no issue with her. So whatever, BM.
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She needs to get real. I have been reading here for quite some time and I can't remember any attacks on her. In fact, she never even comes up in posts, and admin, I also remember you saying quite a few times that you have no disagreement with her and that you like her. She's also saying over and over that justice has been served. Again, whatever.
Also, to my knowledge, Admin has never divulged who BM is, or any photos of her and her family, but there she is, exposing all sorts of personal information and photos in the guise of "poor me, these are the people who picked on me'.
There's no reason to expose anyone unless your aim is to hurt them.
Shameful.
The one time she was discussed in a negative light was when she put herself on Dr. Oz, advertised she was doing so, and had such a basic question for Dr. Oz about sleep (I think the simple solution was to just GET MORE OF IT), it practically invited snark. We're not allowed to talk about someone who goes on a national T.V. show?
But as I recall a lot of people said we should just leave her alone. We quickly moved on and it was rarely or never mentioned again. She's not a topic of discussion here. She is NOT Milo or any of those people, far from it. She is what I consider a rather normal fan, harmless. If all the fans were like her this mess never would have even happened. She's RATIONAL. I don't appreciate her slam.
And, for that matter, I'm asking BabyMama to take down any personal information she may have about me. WAY out of line BM. I NEVER did anything like that to you. I never did ANYTHING to you as a matter of fact.
Just Down The Road, I don't think MsGoody really cares. She hates Jon even more than Kate does. I do hope Jon goes after MsGoody someday, she's the one who hopes Jon would get hit by a bus.
allies_thoughts
@Kateplusmy8 I might just take your cookbook with me to college next year
Twitter does offer some comic relief from time to time!
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Tweet-le--I can't figure that one out either. What would a non-fan blog have to do with a lawsuit against Jon or Robert? Yet ROL specifically stated:
"A popular blog that featured threats against Kate Gosselin has been shut down after receiving a subpoena for the reality star’s upcoming lawsuit against her ex husband, RadarOnline is reporting exclusively."
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"The subpoena for information from Reality Without Apologies will help Kate gather information for her upcoming lawsuit."
Do they think that Jon or Robert were posters on the blog?
As other people have stated-it makes absolutely no sense.
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It only makes sense to me if ROL's only source was what they read which was Lisa's statement when she closed her site. She specifically said she'd received a subpoena and they are gathering information for Kate's lawsuit against Jon and Robert. So did ROL just go with that without any other source?
So did ROL just go with that without any other source?
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Their source is Kate.
I still can not wrap my head around Kate suing Jon. I just don't get that level of hate and spite.
I'd love a judge to order her into anger management and throw the case out on its ear.
Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said... 25
''I was served with a subpoena today. They are gathering information for the lawsuit that Kate has against Jon and Robert.''
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BUT, I think that she was repeating what they SAID they were gathering information for...that doesn't mean that is correct.
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Stupid is said... 27
''I was under the impression that BV believes Jon was paying the haters and that's why RWA was a target.
They also believe Jon pays this blog and all of the posters here. That's where all the money goes. TO US, not the kids or Jon's legal fees.''
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That wasn't my understanding (though I could be wrong) I thought that bv believes the anti-KK sites existed in order for the blog owners to make money from the hits to the site.
I guess the bottom line is that NONE of this makes a lick of sense to people who are logical thinkers and outside observers to KK and all her messes! I still think that KK has punked bv into doing her dirty work, and he still doesn't realize it.
Admin, I hope you slap BM with a C+D for libel. She's making some pretty outrageous claims about you.
Tucker's Mom said... 63
So did ROL just go with that without any other source?
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Their source is Kate.
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David Perel with ROL follows the tweeters on Kate's site very closely and tweets to fans and haters from time to time.
IMO -If non fans were just normal rational non fans non of this stuff with BV would have happened (and I am a Non fan.)
I still can not wrap my head around Kate suing Jon. I just don't get that level of hate and spite.
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I guess I should say that I don't understand on what grounds Kate is suing Jon. What is the offense or crime? Is this civil, legal, Federal?
It seems like it doesn't have legs to begin with.
That's absolutely true, Nonfans. It was the fringe haters and fans who caused this. The real nuts.
People like Babymama and the more restrained "haters" didn't do any of this.
I still can not wrap my head around Kate suing Jon. I just don't get that level of hate and spite.
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He refused to go along with the filming. For her, the show was her life, her ticket to fame, money, free trips and all the perks that went with it. She knew she couldn't make it without him, and when HER show was cancelled, I think this just angered her to the point where she had to get back at him through whatever means possible. She can't let it go. Her ego won't allow it. "Vengeance is mine, saith the Lord," but in this case, vengeance is Kate's. It's all very sad. The question is, if Robert had not come out with the book, would she still find a reason to retaliate? Bet she would. Spite knows no bounds.
Whatever, let her say what she wants to say. You don't always get the same respect that you give. That's life.
FWIW after all this time on this wonderful blog, I have NO idea who this BabyMama person is
What? I just read this on Baby Momma's site:
''...Realitytvkids wasn't as vile and took the more subtle approach. By letting her readers do all the dirty work for her, she was able to create what we thought was a HUGE fan base. Turns out, it was the same people posting over and over with different screen names.''
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We are the same people posting over and over with different screen names? Who knew? Why on earth would anyone think such a thing? The longer this mess goes on, the less grasp on reality some seem to have!
Remona Blue said... 72
What? I just read this on Baby Momma's site:
''...Realitytvkids wasn't as vile and took the more subtle approach. By letting her readers do all the dirty work for her, she was able to create what we thought was a HUGE fan base. Turns out, it was the same people posting over and over with different screen names.''
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Actually that's what RWA posters did.
I guess I should say that I don't understand on what grounds Kate is suing Jon. What is the offense or crime?
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From what I understand, she is claiming that Jon stole her computer discs, conspired with Robert to defame Kate, and was in it for the money. I guess the "crime" is theft and conspiracy. I suppose she is suing Robert for the same reason, although I haven't heard anything about a libel suit threatened or filed against Robert.
What "dirty work" did you all do for me? I must have missed it! Good lord what drama. It's so conspiratorial lol.
Look sheep it's very simple. A group of people have a common interest in following this saga. We all hung out in the same place. That's all there is too it. There's no conspiracy, they're no money, they're no agenda, it's just like any other celebrity site, ok?
I hope this doesn't suddenly show up multiple times...when I posted it, my computer froze and I had to reboot.
Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said... 25
''I was served with a subpoena today. They are gathering information for the lawsuit that Kate has against Jon and Robert.''
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BUT, I think that she was repeating what they SAID they were gathering information for...that doesn't mean that is correct.
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Stupid is said... 27
''I was under the impression that BV believes Jon was paying the haters and that's why RWA was a target.
They also believe Jon pays this blog and all of the posters here. That's where all the money goes. TO US, not the kids or Jon's legal fees.''
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That wasn't my understanding (though I could be wrong) I thought that bv believes the anti-KK sites existed in order for the blog owners to make money from the hits to the site.
I guess the bottom line is that NONE of this makes a lick of sense to people who are logical thinkers and outside observers to KK and all her messes! I still think that KK has punked bv into doing her dirty work, and he still doesn't realize it.
I think BM is just trying to get people over to her blog. Her site's probably been dead for awhile, haha.
There just jellus they were not invited to any of the rumspringa parties :)
"Turns out, it was the same people posting over and over with different screen names.''
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Hey, Tweet-le! I'm you. We were at the market this afternoon buying strawberries for supper tonight. Shortcake is coming out of the oven. Doesn't it smell great? ;0)
"Admin, I hope you slap BM with a C+D for libel. She's making some pretty outrageous claims about you."
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Would it really be worth it? Who is she in the whole scheme of things? We've seen her on television. Enough said. Sometimes you just have to bite the bullet and take the high road.
I said this once before.
If we are posting under different names, I want to be Auntie Ann and Dwindle and Tucker's Mom and VA Pen Mom...and oh so many other clever, smart ladies.
Hey, Tweet-le! I'm you. We were at the market this afternoon buying strawberries for supper tonight. Shortcake is coming out of the oven. Doesn't it smell great? ;0)
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Heck yes, smells wonderful and since I'm you and you're me I think that means I get two servings, right?
I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all together.....
I think I want to be Dmasy for a bit because her lawn looks much better than mine right now!
BTW Admin, I want a cut of the money you've been paid by Jon. I'm getting ready to go on furlough Friday's and every little bit counts.
msgoody2shoes21
@Allisstair @kateplusmy8 @MiloandJack Evidently Jon was too stubby to be "wall to wall/ceiling to floor". LOL
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Keeping it classy, Goody. Keeping it classy.
You guys never told me you were getting money from Jon to post here. Why were some privy to that and not the rest of us?
Thanks for the heads up, BabyMama!
Everyone gets all worked up about someone getting your IP address. The only thing that shows is the Internet service provider.
Bullyville would have to subpoena the Internet providers to get information about who has that IP address. Being mean to Kate on a blog isn't exactly grounds for a big company to give out personal customer information.
I want to be Admin...I want to live in CA!! Pleeeaasseee?
Here is my comment regarding a subpoena supposedly served on the owner of RWA. I see quotes stating that subpoena was seeking records that Kate would use in her "upcoming lawsuit" against Jon and possibly others. "Upcoming lawsuit," as in, not filed yet? If so, where is the legal standing to issue a subpoena? Law enforcement agencies can subpoena people and records, but your average citizen preparing to file a lawsuit cannot.
I hope the owner of that blog that closed down has a reputable attorney who can give her good advice. I wouldn't respond to any subpoena that was issued before a lawsuit was even on file. Even then, I would not mindlessly hand over what they sought - not without seeking good legal advice.
Unfortunately, if you have limited or no experience with the legal field, it can be very intimidating to be served with something that looks official. All I can tell you is that in California, you cannot serve a subpoena unless a case has been filed. Second, you cannot seek consumer records without also notifying the consumers whose records you are seeking. They have to be given a certain period of time to legally object to the scope of the subpoena, make a motion to quash, etc.
I have not read all the comments. Perhaps I missed the information that confirmed Kate Gosselin has indeed actually filed a lawsuit. if so, I would appreciate someone letting me know what court it has been filed it, who the named defendants are, etc. This would be public information and many courts provide information online about civil lawsuits, at no charge. Filed in a PA state court? Filed in some Federal court? Where is this lawsuit, who filed it, who is named as a defendant, etc.?
Again, the owner of that blog hopefully turns the subpoena over to a competent attorney, who will deal with it appropriately. If no suit has been filed, the attorney ought to tell the issuer of the subpoena to go pound sand. You file the lawsuit, you serve the parties named in the suit, the defendants then file an answer (appear in the case) AND THEN YOU INITIATE DISCOVERY, including the issuance of subpoenas for pertinent records. That's the process.
I am going to pick up some fresh strawberries later this afternoon, along with a pizza - too hot to cook! Sweet fresh berries along with a slice of pizza for dinner - yeah, that's what I'm talking about!
I am actually embarrassed for Kate that she has a fan who is as foulmouthed and nasty as that Goody person. What a man-hater she is, and why is the question? Wait, I do not want to know.
Bullyville would have to subpoena the Internet providers to get information about who has that IP address. Being mean to Kate on a blog isn't exactly grounds for a big company to give out personal customer information.
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No, but if a suit is filed and a subpoena is issued to the service provider, and all documents are valid and court sanctioned, then I would think that they have to abide by the law regardless if they consider it frivolous or not.
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@Allisstair @kateplusmy8 @MiloandJack Evidently Jon was too stubby to be "wall to wall/ceiling to floor". LOL
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Keeping it classy, Goody. Keeping it classy.
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And she includes Kate in this tweet. Way to go.
Millicent, from Radar:
And Radar has learned exclusively that BullyVille has sent out other subpoenas and received IP addresses connected to numerous sites that will play a role in the upcoming federal lawsuit by Kate.
We're eating some strawberry bars and had Bang Bang Shrimp for dinner. Totally lazy day here.
Heck yes, smells wonderful and since I'm you and you're me I think that means I get two servings, right?
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You can have as much as you want. There's some leftover shortcake that you didn't eat. Tomorrow we are having Schnitz und Knepp. Is that okay, or do we want something else? Oh, and by the way, we're in charge of the church nursery in the morning. That means diaper duty for the infants.
What "dirty work" did you all do for me? I must have missed it! Good lord what drama. It's so conspiratorial lol.
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Wasn't there a conspiracy theory expert here a bit ago? I forget who it was, but this does sound very conspiratorial! Wish we had some input from one who specializes in putting everything together into a neat little package! It would be so much easier to understand.
I am actually embarrassed for Kate that she has a fan who is as foulmouthed and nasty as that Goody person.
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But the thing is, Orange, Kate doesn't tell her to knock it off. She sees the tweets and she just lets them slide. I would have nipped that in the bud a long long time ago.
I read article that stated @Kateplusmy8 journals haven't been proven to be genuine. I figured as much since Jon, the ex frm hell, stole them
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And 3, 2, 1... Whenever the sheeple get a perceived "win" they start rewriting history to their liking.
From Robert's blog "The Journal has a digital footprint as well, which has been viewed and verified by several computer experts. It was last modified on July 23, 2007. Two years before I began working for US Weekly and two years before I met Jon Gosselin."
What they seem to want to conveniently forget is that Robert's book got past Marty Singer & Co. and was able to be released. It was shut down by TLC because it revealed their intellectual property, not because of any illegal gathering of info. I think BV and Kate like to lead the sheeple down the path that the info was stolen, helping to keep the frenzy of hate for Jon going. It looks to me that the only grounds Kate might have is a claim that the book has prevented her from getting jobs- a civil type suit.
Classic NPD. Her career in show business appears to be at it's twilight, but she won't own that she had a major part in that happening. In her mind, she thinks that she would be ultra famous and sought after, if only there hadn't been those bully blogs and Robert's book.
"Turns out, it was the same people posting over and over with different screen names.''
Hey, wait a minute, there. Baby Mama! I'm the one and only White Organza. I'm unique. And fabulous. Don't need any other aliases. So there.
But... If I were anybody else, I might chose to be NJ Gal because I think I'm in love with her dog. But, then again, it only happens on days when my cantankerous cat is especially obnoxious.
miloandjack
@Kateplusmy8 @The_Stir Quiet day again....hope ur not stranded & out of gas somewhere? HaHa...not very likely huh?
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Oh, Gladys. You will never give it up, will you? Even if Kate ignores you, you just keep hammering away with questions expecting that one of these times she will answer. Pathetic.
No, but if a suit is filed and a subpoena is issued to the service provider, and all documents are valid and court sanctioned, then I would think that they have to abide by the law regardless if they consider it frivolous or not.
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Only if they've been given a chance to respond though. If you got a subpoena in the mail, you have every right to file a motion to quash, as Millicent explained. Then the judge decides whether that subpoena will be upheld or not. You have to give the person involved a chance to respond or you violate due process. This is not a country where you can ask for and get whatever you darn well please without the other party being able to say wait a minute you have no right to that.
I've filed a couple motions to quash, usually because they ask for every Tom Dick or Harry information they have no right to ask for. No, you do not get to know the name of every hospital my client has ever been at and see all the records, nor every address they've ever been at, nor every therapist they may have ever talked to, nor see their juvenile records, and so on. There is a literal treasure trove of caselaw about responding to subpoenas.
I thought I read that Google's policy actually was not to comply with subpoenas or other requests for information about a site they host (Google hosts blogger). They simply forward them to the person who is involved and it's up to them how to handle it.
Another thing that can happen, and this starts to really get complicated, is that a judge can do what's called an "in camera" review of the documents that the party wants to have and decide what they should have and not have. For instance a judge might permit a party to collect a bunch of information about a web site, but the judge would then go into their chambers and go through it all and pick out what they think is relevant to the case, the rest will be sealed. That might be no documents, one document, or all of them, it depends.
I think the bottom line what I and others are trying to explain is it's not so simple as handing someone a piece of paper and they are required by law to disclose whatever you asked. It's a red flag IMO that the process is being described in such a simple way by those claiming they are filing.
Kate also doesn't to tell Milo to knock off when she makes disparaging tweets against Jon. Kate follows Milo, so she has to see them.
Speaking of conspiracies, are Goody and Milo planning their next PR blitz or just more tweets against Jon:
miloandjack
@msgoody2shoes21 Goody...U have time 4 a few DMs? :)
Classic NPD. Her career in show business appears to be at it's twilight, but she won't own that she had a major part in that happening. In her mind, she thinks that she would be ultra famous and sought after, if only there hadn't been those bully blogs and Robert's book.
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I agree. And a couple points. How does she know the so-called "haters" actually haven't HELPED her career? LOL. I mean she has been successfully labeled as polarizing and I think that played a major role in landing DWTS and CWS. If everyone just let her be the happy-go-lucky perfect mom of eight viewers would die of boredom. Viewers liked the conflict between her and Jon, she has eventually failed at everything else ever since. The only small spark that has kept her alive is that people like to see what nasty thing she'll do next. Heck arguably if not for people who know she is mean and like watching train wrecks, she might be even MORE irrelevant. There's just no way she can ever prove this had anything to do with the state of her pathetic career. It's all on her. There's no smoking gun where anyone has said well because of this person saying libelous things you're fired. If an employer said well a lot of people hate you because you're a nasty person and we're not going to hire you, then that's just simply a fact. That's not the fault of the general public for having an opinion you're nasty. You can't blame people for not getting hired because they watched you on T.V. and decided you're nasty.
The second point, is that her own bad behavior has prompted so much criticism. It is NOT just from us, it is from the media in general. I could point them to a hundred negative articles about her that were not written by anyone all that invested in this saga. So to say oh the haters brought me down, when she CAUSED the hate, is just ridiculous. Don't be so controversial and you won't have so much "hate." That's such circular logic.
Speaking of conspiracies, are Goody and Milo planning their next PR blitz or just more tweets against Jon:
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More tweets against Jon:
msgoody2shoes21
Think we'll see Jon in PhotoOp soon 2 let world know he has a new girlfriend he wants to kiss, smooch & hug for everyone to see
miloandjack
@msgoody2shoes21 @Kateplusmy8 Oh my...is Liz now gone...who is the new squeeze?
They're baiting. Part of the master plan. Hope nobody nibbles.
AND the PR blitz!
miloandjack
@Kateplusmy8 How does the Mom of 8 get those kids 2clean their plate? The secrets R here > http://t.co/bDjZJw7rC8(preview) Glad Kate decided 2share!
It's a 2-fer deal -- bashing Jon and selling Kate's book!
Baby Mama made a mistake... its not Admin who has her fans doing her dirty work for her, its...
Kate who has her fans doing her dirty work for her...
And this msgoody2shoes is suppose to be a nice Christian woman??? Hmmm, wonder if she would say these things in front of her own church group?
They're baiting. Part of the master plan. Hope nobody nibbles 101
Baiting is right! But really, the only response that would matter would have to come from Jon and he hasn't taken any bait for quite
some time, God bless him.
You can have as much as you want. There's some leftover shortcake that you didn't eat. Tomorrow we are having Schnitz und Knepp. Is that okay, or do we want something else? Oh, and by the way, we're in charge of the church nursery in the morning. That means diaper duty for the infants.
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We are -- Schnitz und Knepp and diaper duty? I thought we were doing an early morning walk through the Village with the dog and pork roast for dinner.
How did Sybil manage???
schnitz and knepp, love it! Sounds delicious really. The PA Dutch sure do love their pork products.
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@FireyTopaz1 @Allisstair @Kateplusmy8 @MiloandJack I don't have fixation on tiny things except babies. Jon tiny. I can't help it world knows
She tweets this garbage to Kate. Why in the name of all that's holy doesn't Kate put an end to this?
Hi, everyone. Since RWA closed down, I feel more comfortable posting here again.
Just to add my 2 cents, I'm not a lawyer or even in the legal profession, however I think this supposed lawsuit by Kate is just a ploy for public attention.
I could be wrong, but I don't see that she has a leg to stand on with this case. She just wants to hurt Jon, and get attention for herself. As far as she is concerned, damn the kids, they are not important. The only imporant things to her are her need to destroy Jon, and to get attention for herself so she feels like she is still important. What an idiot.
Ha Ha--Here's an opportunity for Kate. Do you think she'll respond?
hhbliss
@Kateplusmy8 we are interested in featuring you on http://t.co/ZEGj8r6m3E(preview) for celebrity curated section of adult toys. How contact you?
It's a site for sex toys. Maybe Milo will encourage her to answer them. After all, Kate seems to love playing with the kids and their toys, why not promote toys for adults?
Thanks Tuckers Mom and Virginia Pen Mom! It amazes me that somebody would want to meet Kate that bad.
My god I wish someone would shut ms goody up. This is truly getting out of hand.
Laugh of the night. Goody is still going on about Jon's, um, manhood, and then this person tweets...
vidortwitt
@Kateplusmy8 It's the little things that make the best memories! I'm a big fan! Follow me plz!!
Craziness said... 112
''My god I wish someone would shut ms goody up. This is truly getting out of hand.''
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You're right that she is getting out of hand (again) but reading her nonsense just exposes how out of hand she is! She and Milo and KK can't keep their mouths shut, and don't seem to have a clue that they are their own worst enemies.
Good to see you back, LoveMyGrandsons...how are those boys?
Welcome back LMG!
Milo keeps trying to get Kate to respond to her. Wouldn't you think by now she would wonder why Kate is ignoring her?
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@Kateplusmy8 Last year on a Sunday at Litchfield Rd Race, you & Rod Dixon were climbing Gallows Hill....remember? No mtn. 2high 4U!
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Laugh of the night. Goody is still going on about Jon's, um, manhood, and then this person tweets...
vidortwitt
@Kateplusmy8 It's the little things that make the best memories! I'm a big fan! Follow me plz!!
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I saw that and it made me laugh out loud. Especially because the tweet right before it was this one by Goody:
msgoody2shoes21
Done talking about tiny stubs. @Kateplusmy8
The timing was perfect!!
Sleepless--I guess we can add "Ain't No Mountain High Enough" to Milo's musical repertoire:
If you need me, call me
No matter where you are
No matter how far
Just call my name
I'll be there in a hurry
You don't have to worry
'Cause baby,
There ain't no mountain high enough
Ain't no valley low enough
Ain't no river wide enough
To keep me from getting to you
It's a site for sex toys. Maybe Milo will encourage her to answer them. After all, Kate seems to love playing with the kids and their toys, why not promote toys for adults?
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He (or she) also asked Kendra and Nicki Minaj the same question!
Sleepless--I guess we can add "Ain't No Mountain High Enough" to Milo's musical repertoire:
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lol! I'm not so sure how high Milo could climb. I think her range is pretty much limited to walking by the pond, hand in hand with Kate into the sunset!
Hi, everyone. Since RWA closed down, I feel more comfortable posting here again.
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Hi, LMG!! Good to see you, and looking forward to your posts! Hope you and those boys are doing great! I'm not sure what happened with you and RWA, but it really doesn't matter. Just glad you feel comfortable posting again!
LMG-Welcome back. Hope you and your family are well. How are your grandsons doing?
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Here w Mady listening 2 crickets outside, Me:'I wish it could be summer all the X' &instantly she said 'SAME!' (That's my new saying!) LOL
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And once again, she brings it around to being all about me, me, me.
I think that perhaps the fans might have been a bit premature in rejoicing the shutting down of the other blog. I have a feeling that some of them, with no place to go, might move over to Kate's Twitter. The sheep aren't going to be very thrilled about that.
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I have a feeling that some of them, with no place to go, might move over to Kate's Twitter.
Oh, I really hope not. It just feeds the high school drama that is already prevalent there.
It's one thing to discuss things that happen in Kate's life - things she posts on her blog, news items, things she herself tweets - but quite another to just go spew vitriol at best or at worst go on there to work through your own experiences with a narcissist by projecting onto Kate. I don't think that the vitriol will serve to enlighten anyone over there and as for the unresolved issues, your time is better spent in therapy, imo.
You know what Kate and Bullyville are ignoring? That the "anti-Kate tweeters" that harassed Kate have many ugly and vile tweets themselves. Wait until the public and the courts find out the very ugly tweets that Kate has received about Jon from Goody and many others and has said or done nothing about them. Oh, they have all the tweets captured. It doesn't matter who deleted what.
And I remember reading...never posting... at RWA and they all much wrote that all a lot of Kate's pro tweeters have written menacing threats themselves. No, I can't specifically remember any off the top of my head. But I distinctly remember thinking the pro Kate tweeters are just as guilty as the con Kate tweeters.
All of this is going to make Kate look horrible in the press and to her kids when they are grown. Oh, brainwashes the 8 now but they will grow up and read the hundreds of articles written by different professional in different fields that speak badly about their mother. And these articles expand for years and years. Yes, their father went through a bad stage for about 1 or 2 yrs. dating women then that was it.
What happens when the tups hears rumors or reads Robert's book and they demand from Kate to see her medical records. And then talks to specialists about Kate injecting herself with meds to have more kids for fame and fortune. And remember Robert has the receipt where Kate ordered the meds. That is all on Kate, not Jon on how and why they were bought into this world. They will realize without a doubt she lied about their conception of just wanting one playmate for the twins. No, she wanted them for fame and fortune.
And the kids one day will realize that Kate divorced Jon because he wanted to stop filming the kids because it was wrong. The kids will thank him and will realize it was very brave of him to do so. It may take another decade or even two but that day will come. And when the kids are all married and raising their own families without TV salaries, they will realize that Kate didn't have to film the hell out of them for the family to have a nice life. And wait until the kids hear where Kate said that she planned on filming them until they were 18 years old. And because the kids made the money and receive a portion of it, they will be able to figure out to the penney that Kate literally made lots of millions off of them. And then cried poor on the Today about bills in her purse and claiming she needed another TV job fast to pay the bills when fired from TLC. It will all click for them. And it will only have to click for one of the 8 to have that kid explain and research it all for the other 7. Leslie
That was NOT, me in that post ! Im getting sick, and tired of other peoples posting what I post on another blog: RO! Sickos need lots of HELP!!
Hi Love My Grandsons!
Hello to lukebandit, hope you are doing better and out of hospital soon.
I was busy all day Saturday doing dirty work! Gardening, weeding,.trimming bushes, planting some flowers I found at Lowes. Who on here gets the marked down flowers in bad shape? I found lots of flowers marked down and they just needed a little water and pruning.
Admin, I agree with you, Ms Kreider does not realize the draw for the show was the conflict, not because she was entertaining. She had a chance to turn things around when she was on DWTS, instead she began a ”free Tony” movement because she was so mean to him. By herself, she is boring.
The last time Kate wanted some attention..a few short months ago..she also ran to ROL and claimed to be suing Jon. Her main problem though, is that all she ever gets from Jon in return, is total silence. Kind of hard to fight with yourself and have it sustain any interest.
Sleepless In Seattle said... 124
I have a feeling that some of them, with no place to go, might move over to Kate's Twitter
And if getting rid of the "haterz" was really Kate's goal, she would block them right? She won't though.
Joy, I have peppers and cherry tomatoes in pots, the first ones of which are now finally turning red! I love this time of year.
Thank you all for the warm welcome back; I appreciate it.
Still having problems with my daughter, but my boys are doing great. The older one "graduated" from kindergarten 2 weeks ago. The younger one, my growling soccer boy, will be starting kindergarten in the fall and is looking forward to riding the "big yellow bus" with his brother.
Because they are in the country, the bus pulls into their driveway and picks them up, and the little guy has always wanted to get on that bus with his brother!
OT: Hoo boy! I like to read Carolyn Hax who is columnist for the Washington Post, and her column is syndicated also. Todays column letter is from a man with a very unpleasant mother. He wonders, when the time comes, what on earth he will be able to Say about her in a eulogy. What is very interesting is the reader comments.
PatK said... 124 kateplusmy8 Here w Mady listening 2 crickets outside, Me:'I wish it could be summer all the X' &instantly she said 'SAME!' (That's my new saying!) LOL
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Kate has slipped and said words to this effect several times recently. "Wish it was summer all the time", do you Kate? As in CALIFORNIA, for example? Could this so-called lawsuit be the latest big stick she's trying to manipulate her ex-husband with in order to move his children to be closer to her 'contemporaries'? Perhaps she believes her consistent failure is due to her location in rural PA? Just a theory.
Since the topic of this thread is former child actors, imagine the end result for the Gosselin children if she were to pack them up and land on California's doorstep with nothing to offer the world of entertainment? We already know that many beloved and legitimate child ACTORS, not reality performers, have been heartlessly taken advantage of and kicked to the curb when they are no longer 'cute'.
And if getting rid of the "haterz" was really Kate's goal, she would block them right? She won't though.
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I have a question about blocking, since I am really Twiitter ignorant. If Kate has a "hater" blocked, but that "hater" not only includes @Kate in her tweets, but also includes a fan who is NOT blocked, does Kate see the tweet?
If the purpose of issuing a subpoena is to gather information and IP addresses, why is this necessary? BV has claimed great success at "outing," and if he's so good at it and gets info from various sources, then why doesn't he just do it on his own? Why does someone else have to provide him with IP addresses?
Milo keeps trying to get Kate to respond to her. Wouldn't you think by now she would wonder why Kate is ignoring her?
miloandjack
@Kateplusmy8 Last year on a Sunday at Litchfield Rd Race, you & Rod Dixon were climbing Gallows Hill....remember? No mtn. 2high 4U!
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@Kateplusmy8 Remember last year...Litchfield Road Race....Gallows Hill? One of the toughest in the US...U did it! Symbolic of life 4U! :)
Well, Kate didn't answer her last night, so she's trying the same question this morning! You'd think she'd at least try a different comment/question!
Canuck said... 133
PatK said... 124 kateplusmy8 Here w Mady listening 2 crickets outside, Me:'I wish it could be summer all the X' &instantly she said 'SAME!' (That's my new saying!) LOL
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Kate has slipped and said words to this effect several times recently. "Wish it was summer all the time", do you Kate? As in CALIFORNIA, for example?
How has she "slipped" by saying this? Because you happen to think it is code for some secret plan? Maybe she just likes warmer weather and there's no grand conspiracy behind the words.
FYI... it isn't summer year round in California either. We have seasons also, just not with the same extremes as other climates.
One tends to long for "summer all the time" when shovelling snow, or on a cold, rainy fall day leading in to the long, cold winter. Longing for summer when summer is here is a bit odd. Kate wants California more than anything I would imagine. She loves the lifestyle way more than the weather. If the stars all lived in Siberia she would be wishing for the frigid weather. The fact that Kate's Jon holds that card ultimately gives the kids some much-needed stability. I suggest Kate live her life where she is and stop wishing for things that aren't going to happen.
Okay, playing devil's advocate here but perhaps Kate was just referring to enjoying the less structured routine of summer - no needing to get up at the crack of dawn to get kids off to school, no homework, etc.
At the beginning of the summer, I relish the change in routine. I love the more laid back atmosphere at home. I love just doing swim lessons and summer camps, having sleepovers and napping in the afternoon on a hot day (but not so hot you can justify running the air conditioner, which is why you are napping).
Don't get me wrong - I think Kate would love to live in California so she could further both her and the kids' careers. I think she'd be an idiot if she did it. A million dollars in LA isn't going to get you half of what she currently has in PA and you're going to have neighbors, which we know Kate loathes. To get what she has now, there's a place in Agoura HIlls for $3,300,000. And that was the only listing Trulia had in a search of Malibu, Newport Beach and Beverly Hills.
Admin could speak better about the real estate market in southern California than I can, but again, I think she'd be a fool to waste her money moving to California when she has no job.
Southern CA Girl said... 138 Because you happen to think it is code for some secret plan? Maybe she just likes warmer weather and there's no grand conspiracy behind the words.
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My sincere apologies. I had no intention to offend or anger anyone with my thoughts.
It's June gloom right now so it's only abot 63 or so. This will last well into July. Pennsylvania weather is probably a lot nicer this month overall than LA! Lol.
In fairness I think a lot of people think the southwest is always sunny and perfect. I remember Kate going on about how she was looking forward to running a warm race in Vegas. I laughed because Vegas can get very cold in winter and sure enough that race was bitter cold. I definitely use my winter wardrobe for several months here just like in the northeast. It's cold just not bone chilling cold and it doesn't rain as much as I'm used to. But when it rains it will rain for like seven or eight days in a row. It's weird. The leaves change but not until December. I'm still not used to it but I like it overall. I read once that la gets too much rain to truly be considered a warm desert climate. I do think though the media has successfully painted an always sunny picture.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 102
Classic NPD. Her career in show business appears to be at it's twilight, but she won't own that she had a major part in that happening. In her mind, she thinks that she would be ultra famous and sought after, if only there hadn't been those bully blogs and Robert's book.
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I agree. ….. You can't blame people for not getting hired because they watched you on T.V. and decided you're nasty.
The second point, is that her own bad behavior has prompted so much criticism. It is NOT just from us, it is from the media in general. I could point them to a hundred negative articles about her that were not written by anyone all that invested in this saga. So to say oh the haters brought me down, when she CAUSED the hate, is just ridiculous. …
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I agree with Admin's post (102) above. Kate's failure in everything she attempted or was offered was all due to her own behavior.
Is Kate suing Anderson Cooper for puttin her on the "Ridiculist" when she went crazy over one piece of pizza and ranted and raged?
Is Kate suing Jimmy Kimmel for making that hilarious bit on his show called "Escape From Gosselin Island" about Kate wanting a dating show because he and his millions of viewers knew she would be the date from hell?
Is Kate suing DWTS judges and Tony Dovalani for telling the truth about how she did not practice or really try to learn to dance and pointing out that she was lazy and difficult?
Is Kate suing Coupon Cabin for firing her and posting the reasons and stating that Kate did "not align with the authenticity" of their business?
Is Kate suing TLC because they never produced "Twist of Kate" even after promoting it every chance Kate was interviewed? (actuatlly this one is my favorite Kate Failure!!)
Is Kate suing TLC because they finally showed more than the usual REAL footage of her own bad unlikable behavior on the RV episodes?
Is Kate suing her once best friend Jamie for saying her truthful thoughts about Kate that were not so nice or friendlike on the RV episodes?
Is Kate suing Ashley for very clearly stating on the RV episodes how she had enough of Kate and how badly Kate treated her etc..?
Is Kate suing Whoopie Goldberg on the View for arguing with Kate and telling her that "You could have gone to jail, you realize that?" when discussing Kate's behavior with Jon during the divorce?
Is Kate suing Whoopie Goldberg when she said on the View that Kate was an "Angry Bitch" when Kate was on DWTS for all the millions of viewers to laugh and agree with?
Is Kate suing all the writers, news reporters, and TV shows such as SNL, The Soup, etc.. who wrote articles, performed skits, talked about her on their show etc about Kate not being nice, passing off mothering and household duties to others, belittling Jon, yelling, ranting and raging etc....?
I could go on and on as all of us could. Kate is a FAILURE because of herself. We see it. The world sees it (except for her few remaining fans).
And no amount of suing of anyone will ever change what Kate herself put out there for the world to see.
And most sadly, for her own kids to see how their own mother behaved, talked, reacted, ranted, and raged against them, their dad, their family, friends, crew members, and strangers that is on film forever.
If anyone sues anyone - it should be the Gkids suing Kate. And that is one lawsuit I and, I am sure, the media would support and take notice of.
Kate appears to want to be anywhere that she's not. I think she would have picked her kids up and moved to LA if not for Jon. Conspiracy? Sure. I'll own it.
She puts down where she lives all the time, and it's beautiful there. "How many farms can you look at?" when they were on their RV trip. She becomes nostalgic and romanticizes these places because the grind of everyday life does not happen there.
When her kids are grown and out, she can leave PA and go anywhere she wants. But for now, unless she's got a slam dunk career somewhere else, she should stay put and let the children have stability, their father and whatever family they can.
More thoughts on my previous post:
Is Kate suing Katie Couric for her spoof called “Kate plus 80” and making fun of Kate for millions of viewers to laugh at Kate and her lack of mothering skills?
Is Kate suing Kathy Griffin for her spoof called “Kate is Enough” and making fun of Kate for millions of viewers to laugh at Kate and her lack of mothering skills?
Is Kate suing Carrie Ann Inaba when she called her dancing "odd" and "very hard to watch." Or Bruno Tonioli because he said "You had the look of a super bitch from hell!”?
Is Kate suing Jimmy Fallon for his skit making fun of Kate and her dance to "Paparazzi” for millions of viewers to laugh at Kate and her failure on DWTS?
Is Kate suing all the people/companies who made all the video spoofs that millions can watch on YouTube that depict Kate as mean, nasty, a bad mother, not datable, a liar, a fake, etc..?
Can’t we all just keep adding to this list?
Kate is hated in the media and world for YEARS now because of her own behavior.
Kate is not hated just recently because of what an Ebook, blog or some tweeters say on obscure blog sites and twitter feeds.
Everyone knows it has already been said before, shown all over TV for millions to see and laugh at her, or written about in the media again and again years before Kate’s sad pathetic attempt this year to sue anyone who does not like her.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 143
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My first visit to CA, I was in the San Fran area and froze my ass off! I had a touristy SF sweatshirt (and a big "L" on my forehead!).
I love the seasons. I think I get a touch of SAD during winter, but I do love snow and I like rainy days once in a while. Hunkering down inside, comfy yoga pants and slow cooking is a happy day for us and the dogs.
Another comment on Kate suing Jon, bloggers, and tweeters...
I find it very interesting and revealing about Kate that she is ONLY suing those who do not have more money than her.
Kate has very strategically chosen to go after only those with limited financial means to defend themselves.
Kate is not suing anyone who has more money than she does (even though the money she has is really the Gkids money).
Her lawsuits (if real) are just a continuation of Kate's BULLYING behavior of raging against anyone around her that she sees having less power than her (her kids, Jon, TLC crew, Jody, Jamie, Ashley, Tony Dovalani, ...).
SF is usually gloomy! Ca is very diverse. I went to Death Valley in February and it was 80s and 90s. In the summer it's supposed to reach 120. LA never gets that hot.
Luke's mom (144)
I am awfully curious about that dating show. Last summer is was reported that she had signed on for a dating show. Not just that she wanted one, but that she had actually signed on. It was made to sound like it was a definite thing, and then...nothing. It's been about a year. What happened? Just like Twist of Kate, it went from being a definite thing to being nothing.
FYI... it isn't summer year round in California either. We have seasons also, just not with the same extremes as other climates.
But do you have to shovel 30 inches of snow in a week, or look forward to icy roads/black ice at least once every two weeks from December through March...or hunker down during ice storms when you're afraid the pellets are going to bring down your power lines or cause trees to fall through your windows? Worst of all, worry about your loved ones at work, praying that they are going to make it home on slippery roads when there are accidents all over the place. You listen to sirens and you're sitting there watching for headlights to pull into your driveway, finally knowing that your family is safe.
IF, and that's a big if, Jon is behind RH's book, I think Kate is entirely correct in suing him. As much as I dislike her, I'd stand beside her 100% on this one.
But other than gossip, there's no proof Jon had anything to do with this. Correct?
I've fallen behind, but last I heard it was only a guess that Jon ever did anything to undermine the mother of his children.
ONLY one reason crazy wants control of children:
it's about the MONEY.
She wants 100% control. Wasn't she the one that said they would not get a cent till they were in their 30's.
She will spend it ALL!!
Canuck said... 141
Southern CA Girl said... 138 Because you happen to think it is code for some secret plan? Maybe she just likes warmer weather and there's no grand conspiracy behind the words.
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Canuck, I happen to think Kate is desperate to get to CA as well.
She wanted to get out of E-Town ASAP when bits and pieces were coming out about the endless filming, her nastiness to neighbors and the many helpers, such as laundry and chef service. Didn't fit with her insistence that "we're poor as dirt and do it all by ourselves. Filming the show is no more than taking a home video." So she ran to a secluded mansion and thought she could spin her tales undetected. But even that didn't work out so well. Her complete exaggeration of the surprise snow storm of 10/2011 is an example. According to her, there was a foot of snow outside her door and all her bradford pear trees were broken. A few locals drove by and there was maybe 5 inches of melting snow and 1 or 2 trees broken. The following spring, she held her 6 tweeties rapt with her week long tale of stuffing 20,000 eggs and personally hiding them. Robert completely blew the cover off those lies. Kate hired a company to stuff & hide the eggs and she possibly tipped off Chris to take pictures to sell, after complaining that paps showed up. The pictures seemed to be taken in an area in full view from the fence. The hunt could have been in other areas of the yard which were more secluded.
She seems to think that she's being bullied when her lies are exposed. It just doesn't occur to her not to lie in the first place. Instead of fixing the problem, she seems to want to run again. Add to that, CA is the place to be to get the kids into acting and singing.
Yes Just. During wildfire season and during mudslides! It was pretty similar to what I experienced growing up in the snowmelt. Just not as cold.
Furthermore, I'd love for Jon to spill the beans on Krazy in a court of law.
HE knows her darkest secrets.
Kate's slammed pa many times. I'm sure it's offensive to locals. I even found it offensive since I consider pa my old home. I would go back in a heartbeat if there were a good opportunity. It's a wonderful place to grow up.
Luke's Mom, all your examples are spot on. Obviously, blogs, Jon and Robert are not the sole reason for her downfall. I always found it so interesting that Kate cries that she's being bullied, when in reality, she is the biggest bully of all. By attacking blogs, Jon and Robert, she's doing just what bullies do. Picking on the weakest and the LEAST ABLE TO DEFEND THEMSELVES. Sad.
Just Down The Road said... 150
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Snow and ice storms.... raging, deadly wildfires and earthquakes. Pick your poison!
Is Kate suing the person who put a fisheye lens on her in the cherry picker on DWTS. That was awesome.
Look, honey, it's the donkey from Shrek!
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 157
Kate's slammed pa many times. I'm sure it's offensive to locals. I even found it offensive since I consider pa my old home. I would go back in a heartbeat if there were a good opportunity. It's a wonderful place to grow up.
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Also, I think it's hard for her to achieve total alienation when the kids see Daddy weekly. How can she sway their thinking of him when what she says about him and how Daddy acts are completely different? If she can get them across the country and limit visits to 2-3 times a year, she'd have a better chance to turn them against him.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 157
Kate's slammed pa many times. I'm sure it's offensive to locals. I even found it offensive since I consider pa my old home. I would go back in a heartbeat if there were a good opportunity. It's a wonderful place to grow up.
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You should see what she writes about the locals in her journals. She deems them a bunch of dumb hicks, especially when those pesky quack doctors want to do a physical examination on her sick children before prescribing meds! Typical Wyomissing ignorance!
How dare they not capitulate!!
Also, Jon can subpoena all the people that have worked for Kate (rip up non-disclosures), and they can tell their tales. Maybe one of them leaked stories, too.
I would guess Kate has A LOT to hide.
Tink said... 152
IF, and that's a big if, Jon is behind RH's book, I think Kate is entirely correct in suing him. As much as I dislike her, I'd stand beside her 100% on this one.
But other than gossip, there's no proof Jon had anything to do with this. Correct?
I've fallen behind, but last I heard it was only a guess that Jon ever did anything to undermine the mother of his children.
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When BV started saying last spring that he was going to prove Jon gave Robert the hard drive, Robert responded to the accusation on his blog.
I never used the words ‘hard drive’ when describing where I got the information. I found computer disks. Hard drive is what happened when the story got whispered down the alley on the blogs for a year. So much of what people comment on is so far from the truth and distorted that it’s laughable.
Here’s the exact wording I used in the book: Kate’s journal was found by me while combing through documents and computer discs and files that she threw in the trash, the day after she threw Jon out of the apartment above the garage for good.
Interestingly enough, there’s a police report on file documenting the fact that Kate called the police on me because I was at the house at night in the rain on April 28, 2010 helping Jon move his belongings out of the apartment above the garage because Kate told him that anything that was left would be thrown in the trash the following day. She was so spiteful and mean-spirited that she called the police on someone helping Jon move things out of the garage, in the rain. The report also states that she knew I was a reporter, and yet she still threw his things to the street.
Of course I was back at the house before the next trash pickup and picked up what was left on the street for the trash men. Completely legal.
gabby2 said... 162
Also, Jon can subpoena all the people that have worked for Kate (rip up non-disclosures), and they can tell their tales. Maybe one of them leaked stories, too.
I would guess Kate has A LOT to hide.
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That is exactly what I would like to see happen!
Kate does have a lot to hide. And all the CAs prove how scared she is of anyone knowing what really happened and is still happening in her house.
I am not a legal expert but wouldn't her lawsuits cause the CAs to be null/void thus all her secrets, that she is so desperate to hide, become topics in court and revealed.
Layla said... 150
Luke's mom (144)
I am awfully curious about that dating show. Last summer is was reported that she had signed on for a dating show. Not just that she wanted one, but that she had actually signed on. It was made to sound like it was a definite thing, and then...nothing. It's been about a year. What happened? Just like Twist of Kate, it went from being a definite thing to being nothing.
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I don't think Kate's Dating Show was ever signed by any network. It was all just her wanting one and trying to generate interest. I don't remember reading anything about any signing or network taking any notice. IMO, all PR was likely only generated by Kate and Steve to see if there were any takers.
She should sue Jimmy Kimmel for his spoof that he did last July 2012 called "Escape From Gosselin Island" which made it very clear to the millions of his viewers and all the networks that Kate on a dating show would never happen.
Jimmy's spoof made it very clear that no sane man would ever want to date Kate Gosselin. And his opinion of her was not a result of the RWA blog or twitter. His opinion of Kate and his spoof were a direct result of Kate's own behavior seen over and over on TV.
"Also, Jon can subpoena all the people that have worked for Kate (rip up non-disclosures), and they can tell their tales. Maybe one of them leaked stories, too."
If Kate really does sue, I think Jon will let her win by default, as he doesn't have the money to fight her. So in the end, nothing will come out, and Kate will win yet again.
Winsomeone said... 166
If Kate really does sue, I think Jon will let her win by default, as he doesn't have the money to fight her. So in the end, nothing will come out, and Kate will win yet again.
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You know, that makes me think that Kate won't sue anyone she thinks she might lose against. Can you just imagine her taking the chance of LOSING?
Winsomeone said... 166
If Kate really does sue, I think Jon will let her win by default, as he doesn't have the money to fight her. So in the end, nothing will come out, and Kate will win yet again.
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Which is why Kate has chosen to sue ONLY the people she knows do not have the financial means to fight back. Which is typical BULLY behavior: to pick on those who can not defend themselves. Kate=BULLY
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 21m
Kate...e-mail sent! :)
She doesn't care, Milo. Your world revolves around Kate, but hers doesn't revolve around you.
I think Milo might be embarrassed that Kate's ignoring her. What need to tell someone you sent them an email like it's a super-secret-important message? Kate's email address is on her website. Milo just wants to look like she has that imaginary "in" with her idol.
LMG - glad to see you back. Good to hear the boys are well and I hope things work out with your daughter.
Luke's Mom - Great post.
Has it been confirmed anywhere that Kate or BV have actually filed a lawsuit against anyone or are they just throwing crap out there to see where it lands? It seems to me this is typical Kate. Let something get out there and sit back and let everyone else spout their mouths off, whether it's true or not. She doesn't care. But if she is suing she better realize that the sh!t her fans tweet her and she retweets; or the sh!t fans like Goody tweet about Jon and she doesn't tell her to knock it off can be used against her as well. She is such a tool. I can't imagine what Jon goes through dealing with her.
I am afraid the copy of the email Hailey gave to Kate could put the nail in the coffin. Unless Jon could prove that he said it, but never got a chance to get the harddrive. (or if email could be proved as tampered like Kate's fans think the journals were.)
Winsomeone said... 166
''If Kate really does sue, I think Jon will let her win by default, as he doesn't have the money to fight her. So in the end, nothing will come out, and Kate will win yet again.''
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I don't understand what you mean when you say ''nothing will come out.'' My understanding of the suit she wants to file against him, is that she wants to 'prove' that Jon gave Robert the things in the trash. In other words, that he stole them from her, and gave them to Robert in order for Robert to write the book they would both profit from. In the emails exchanged with Hailey, she clearly said that her intention was to get full custody of the children, and have Jon in jail for theft.
If she won the suit by default, wouldn't that mean that he was essentially saying that he DID steal the things in order to help Robert write the book?
What am I missing here?
Also, I really doubt that lazy Kate threw Jon's stuff out herself. You know she had either the baby sitter, or the housekeeper bag that stuff up. If Jon could get the name of that person, that would be the end of any suing I think. Of course Kate has everyone sign a CA, so no one is going to want to talk. She really must be something, as everyone is sure scared of her. No matter what she did/does, everyone's lips are sealed forever. Guess they were/are afraid of TLC too though.Seems like the ACLU could be used in a case like this?
I would love to see Kate faced with actual footage of her attempts to be on the air. For example, her ET interview. Awful. And the pilot for Paula Deen/Rene Sayers show. And her
visits to the View, that show she shared with Morgan Fairchild (can't ever remember the name of that show). To have to see herself looking so awkward and out of place would have to give her an idea of why she's not getting more tv
opportunities.
If there were a video of, say, me diving off a
3 meter board, I would know immediately that diving is not my forte no matter how much I liked the idea of being a diver. There are just some dreams you cannot fulfill.
California Dreamin' said...163
When BV started saying last spring that he was going to prove Jon gave Robert the hard drive, Robert responded to the accusation on his blog.
I never used the words ‘hard drive’ when describing where I got the information. I found computer disks. Hard drive is what happened when the story got whispered down the alley on the blogs for a year. So much of what people comment on is so far from the truth and distorted that it’s laughable.
Here’s the exact wording I used in the book: Kate’s journal was found by me while combing through documents and computer discs and files that she threw in the trash, the day after she threw Jon out of the apartment above the garage for good.
Interestingly enough, there’s a police report on file documenting the fact that Kate called the police on me because I was at the house at night in the rain on April 28, 2010 helping Jon move his belongings out of the apartment above the garage because Kate told him that anything that was left would be thrown in the trash the following day. She was so spiteful and mean-spirited that she called the police on someone helping Jon move things out of the garage, in the rain. The report also states that she knew I was a reporter, and yet she still threw his things to the street.
Of course I was back at the house before the next trash pickup and picked up what was left on the street for the trash men. Completely legal.
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It looks like BV was getting his information from one of Kate's fans who has a blog:
Bullyville @BullyVille 15 Apr
You know why Robert Hoffman isn't coming forward with "proof?" Because there is none & he's a PROVEN LIAR! http://t.co/DGuS8Toj9i
That URL goes to the fan's blog where she stated:
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Ms.G - Hoffman stated he found the disc drive in the trash, NOT the whole computer. Kate wouldn't have a clue about how to remmove a hard disk drive.
and...
He claims he got the hard drive out of the garbage the very night Kate threw Jon out. Not a hard drive from Kate's computer, but from Jon's computer! (in the voice of Church Lady - Well isn't that special!)
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Not a hard drive from Kate's computer but from Jon's computer? Where did the fan come up with that?
I wonder who else was a "source" for BV's information. He used Kate's fans for sources more than once.
PatK said... 167
Winsomeone said... 166
If Kate really does sue, I think Jon will let her win by default, as he doesn't have the money to fight her. So in the end, nothing will come out, and Kate will win yet again.
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You know, that makes me think that Kate won't sue anyone she thinks she might lose against. Can you just imagine her taking the chance of LOSING?
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I'm one of the few, I guess, who wishes Sylvia LaFair hadn't withdrawn her complaint (which she was awarded) against Kate. While we can say she took the high road, she gave Kate more of a feeling that she is invincible and can sue whenever the mood hits her. If she loses she can just appeal. Lawyer fees don't seem to be an issue.
If there were a video of, say, me diving off a
3 meter board, I would know immediately that diving is not my forte no matter how much I liked the idea of being a diver. There are just some dreams you cannot fulfill.
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LOL amen to that. I don't subscribe to this whole you can achieve anything if you just believe! mentality. No, you really need to have some self awareness of what you're good at, and focus on that, and forget what you're not good at.
Ingrid I'm not really sure that's much of a nail. If it's a nail, there sure are a lot of holes in the story. All it shows is that he was considering trying to obtain some documents. He could have changed his mind. It also doesn't prove for what purpose he needed them. This was the EXACT same time they were having a very nasty dispute over finances, you can check the tabloids for details of that, why aren't those text messages really about Kate's assets? I.e. I'm going to bury her when I am able to prove he financial situation is actually this, not that. And if this were all the case why wasn't the book released right then if he were trying to "bury" her? What happened?
If it were some text messages AFTER saying lookie here I stole them! That would be different. But even then ew have to remember we're talking about a civil suit here, not criminal. Criminal charges for theft are filed by the DA and they have chosen not to. So in civil what damages can you prove? Remember you always have to prove DAMAGES when you sue in civil court. Getting your feelings hurt is not going to be enough. Somebody wrote a book about you? Wasn't that book out for about 4 days? Hasn't she gotten several jobs since then? Didn't Robert have several other sources that corroborated the journals? He could have gone ahead and said similar things without them. Her suit fails because she cannot prove she has been harmed by any of this. And I think it's pretty painfully obvious she has nothing when it comes to trying to sue for libel.
I also found those text messages a little TOO perfect. Outlined everything a bit too perfectly, right down to Hailey playing the level headed voice of reason as she courageously tries to talk him out of it (please.) I think Hailey might have made them up and panicked when Kate actually wanted to use them and that's when she took them back. Why give them to her in the first place if you were going to freak out if she actually used them?
Has it been confirmed anywhere that Kate or BV have actually filed a lawsuit against anyone or are they just throwing crap out there to see where it lands?
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Sillimom says she looked for it and can't find it. I'd like to see the case number on the subpoena if those involved are willing to share.
I am still on yesterdays posts, have lots to catch up one, but am curious about this-If there were lawsuits involving posters, would the non-fans from the U.S be lumped in with the ones from other countries, like from Canada and Australia? Or would other countries need to be in separate lawsuits?
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''...I also found those text messages a little TOO perfect. Outlined everything a bit too perfectly, right down to Hailey playing the level headed voice of reason as she courageously tries to talk him out of it (please.) I think Hailey might have made them up and panicked when Kate actually wanted to use them and that's when she took them back. Why give them to her in the first place if you were going to freak out if she actually used them?''
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I agree with you about Hailey's text messages. I remember much discussion on this blog about this very thing. I think Hailey made them up, and then panicked when she realized that KK intended to use them in a law suit. Isn't that when Hailey threatened to sue KK if KK used them?
Good points and info admin. I don't know much at all about law criminal vs civil etc. It might not pass as any sort of proof of anything but I think if it is proven to be legit it is more damning than people just saying they think Jon and Robert were in cahoots and stole the HDD.
My heart sunk when I saw it.
Oh and I think Hailey only wanted them back when her mother got on her about it. Her mom didn't want their family associated with Kate again.
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''If Kate really does sue, I think Jon will let her win by default, as he doesn't have the money to fight her. So in the end, nothing will come out, and Kate will win yet again.''
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I don't understand what you mean when you say ''nothing will come out.'' My understanding of the suit she wants to file against him, is that she wants to 'prove' that Jon gave Robert the things in the trash. In other words, that he stole them from her, and gave them to Robert in order for Robert to write the book they would both profit from. In the emails exchanged with Hailey, she clearly said that her intention was to get full custody of the children, and have Jon in jail for theft.
If she won the suit by default, wouldn't that mean that he was essentially saying that he DID steal the things in order to help Robert write the book?
What am I missing here?
I'm one of the few, I guess, who wishes Sylvia LaFair hadn't withdrawn her complaint (which she was awarded) against Kate. While we can say she took the high road, she gave Kate more of a feeling that she is invincible and can sue whenever the mood hits her. If she loses she can just appeal. Lawyer fees don't seem to be an issue.
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LaFair won the case she brought against Kate. She. Won. There comes a time, when you're not made of money and free time, that trying to recover your damages THAT THE JUDGE AWARDED YOU becomes to expensive, too tedious and too much of a media circus for most normal people to want to experience.
I give LaFair all the credit in the world. She won; Kate has more money.
There ain't no changing the facts, m'am, and them's the facts!
I got one! Is Ms Kreider suing Andy Cohen for naming her his ”jackhole.of the week” not once but TWICE?
Is Ms Kreider sung ” The Soup” on E! For showing clips from shows she was on and making humorous sarcastic comments?
Seriously, her kids are seeing how you can live on a budget by her taking all the joint resources from Jon. They are staying with their dad, and seeing it is very possible to live just fine without the mansion, the acreage, and the pool. Later in life when either they find there is very little left, or if Ms Kreider denies them access to it, the kids will be able to say they can live just fine without lots of money or housekeepers or chefs or pool boys and gardening guys. Maybe not all of the kids, but you know some of them will. Because they are not a pack or a unit, but eight individuals with their own opinions.
I have been interested in the posts about parental alienation. With one or two children involves, I imagine the alienation would be easier to accomplish. With eight individuals that Ms Kreider seems to consider a uniform pack, the varying opinions as they grow up may surprise us. esp if Jon has 50/50 custody, Ms Kreider may have lost lots of influence with them already, and not even know it.
I am familiar with a vaguely similar situation, where a self centered mother assumed she knew her child s opinions and was 100% wrong. The child just learned what she could and could not say to mom to get along, until she was able to get away from mom completely, well before she was eighteen btw.
OT since I have gotten good advice here before. Little dog, about fifteen pounds, and fifteen years old, started with seizures December. She has been on seizure meds with the occasional one. Yesterday she had several seizures and now does not seem to be able to see. The dh and I were really in nags head doing house maintenance, so just back today. I have a friend with blind dog, as long as he has good quality of life she will keep him as pampered as possible. My feeling about my dog is similar. Any advice or experiences anyone wants to share will be appreciated.
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What "dirty work" did you all do for me? I must have missed it! Good lord what drama. It's so conspiratorial lol.
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How soon they forget. We ALL trucked out to Bev-errr-ly, Hills that is, in the Beverly Hillbilly Auto-mobile, accompanied by a tricked out stretch limo, in order to help you in court! Remember? We objected to EVERYTHING, filed motions every 2.3 seconds, filed every pair of briefs we could find, bought off a few juries, flirted with the judge, made bakery for the bailiffs and brought gallons of rumspringa for the court clerks. You were oh so grateful for our incredible help, that you very quickly found time to do a recap of something for us.
If we are swapping identities, can I be LMG? Coz she has, like, GRANDCHILDREN and I, like, don't. And also, maybe I can use some of that Jon payoff money to bribe Milo to let me be him/her for a day? I would just like to spend one day being that blissfully clueless as to how I humiliate myself with my groveling.
DWINDLE not in blue or fuchsia.
Nice to hear from you Dwindle. I've missed your humor.
Thinking back to my post a little upthread, there is a new show on the Food Network where several people are competing to be The Next Food Network Star with their own show. Some of the tapes they are making are horrid, and Giada
and Bobby Flay (?) are trying to give them some tips on how to be interesting, charming and
informative. Some are improving, some are not.
But this is the sort of thing Kate could use if
she were to pursue a TV gig, IMO. Watch yourself, get pointers, listen and learn. Could you do that, Kate? Oh, maybe not.
I think Next Food Network Star is the single best piece of television in terms of explaining how very difficult it is to be in any kind of hosting position on T.V. For some people there is a steep learning curve, for others they will never get it.
It doesn't matter how smart you are, how good a cook you are, how good you are at what you do. Going on T.V. is hard. There's no shame in admitting you're just not good at it, and getting out.
I'm a bit confused about Kate's lawsuits against Jon, Robert and the "haters". If Kate is suing Jon for "stealing" her journals (disks?/hard drive?) isn't she basically admitting that the content of the journals is TRUE. Also, how is it Robert can be sued? Since Kate is a "celebrity" isn't she "fair game" so to speak. Meaning that there are many (real) celebrities who have unauthorized books written about themselves. As for suing the "haters" how can Kate sue people for simply not liking her? I really believe Kate has not thought this lawsuit out carefully. For example, there were rumors that TLC had damaging footage of Kate (abuse?). And what about her alleged affair with Steve? Wouldn't all of this come out in the lawsuit?
DWINDLE not in blue or fuchsia.
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definitely en fuego!
Dmasy said... 81
I said this once before.
If we are posting under different names, I want to be Auntie Ann and Dwindle and Tucker's Mom and VA Pen Mom...and oh so many other clever, smart ladies.
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You're so sweet, Dmasy! But you are us! We have multiple personality disorder. We're writing this right now.... :)
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I think Next Food Network Star is the single best piece of television in terms of explaining how very difficult it is to be in any kind of hosting position on T.V.
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A couple seasons ago, a local chef was a NFNS contestant. He has a big personality and is talented and good looking. He was on Bobby Flay's Throwdown (I think he won) and had great presence. His demo tape was not only watchable, but promising.
He sucked.
He sucked eggs.
Early departure and I don't think he tried another foray into TV, but he's a damn good chef and has restaurants(s) that are neighborhood faves.
That's what he's good at.
I'd be surprised if Kate's people haven't tried to hook her up with Food Network. We know she did a pilot with Paula Deen that apparently didn't go well.
One host co star had not so nice things to say about Kate on her blog.
For example, there were rumors that TLC had damaging footage of Kate (abuse?). And what about her alleged affair with Steve? Wouldn't all of this come out in the lawsuit?
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Not if the lawsuit is about theft and conspiracy. It's not a libel suit, as far as I know. Her relationship with Steve and footage of abuse wouldn't be admissible because it wouldn't be relevant.
Admin?
filed every pair of briefs we could find,
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I thought we bought boxers at KMart because Ray (Rain Man) always got his shorts there.
And also, maybe I can use some of that Jon payoff money to bribe Milo to let me be him/her for a day? I would just like to spend one day being that blissfully clueless as to how I humiliate myself with my groveling.
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But Dwindle, then you'd have someone in the facility turning off your lights at 11 p.m. instead of turning you on.
TWO visits from dear Dwindle this weekend? I want more!!
Also, Jon can subpoena all the people that have worked for Kate (rip up non-disclosures), and they can tell their tales. Maybe one of them leaked stories, too.
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Now I'm really confused. Why would he do that if it's not relevant to the case? If the lawsuit is filed because of alleged theft and conspiracy, why would any tales employees could tell be allowed to be entered as evidence? Evidence for what....unless they were there the day the discs were "stolen?" It's not a case of her being a beotch to work for, or any alleged abuse as a parent.
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