Thursday, June 27, 2013

Humility, contrition, personal responsibility, apology


Michael Levine has been in the PR business since 1983 (his firm is called the "Oscar" of PR and has represented Bill Clinton, Michael Jackson, and Cameron Diaz). This expert has weighed in on how a celebrity should handle a crisis (or f-up, if you will) as big as Paula Deen's. His four tips are interesting, and pretty spot on. Here we go:
1) Respond quickly to problems: Though Deen cancelled her originally-scheduled "Today" interview, opting to record her own videos — which were much maligned for being obviously edited — Levine says she can make up for it during her Wednesday appearance. "I don’t think it was wise [to cancel], but America is basically a forgiving nation, so I think if she goes on the ‘Today’ show and confronts it, this will be a good thing for her."

2) Respond with humility: "We've already started seeing her make her apology," says Levine of the self-recorded videos in which Deen apologized “to everybody for the wrong that I’ve done,” saying she's made mistakes and calling her language "inappropriate and hurtful." But Levine says she will need to continue to appear remorseful when speaking to Lauer. "She's begun the healing process, but it's a process and you have to keep doing it again and again until you get it behind you."

3) Respond with contrition: "If you make clear that this is not who you are today, and you show some degree of sincerity about it, over time you should be fine," Levine opines, though adding changing the public's new perception of her will not happen "in an hour, day or week." Though he does believeAmerica could see Deen back on its airwaves in the course of a year or two if she appears sincerely sorry.

4) Respond with personal responsibility: Levine says one of the biggest goals of her "Today" appearance should be to own up to her actions without making excuses. "She can't belittle and blame others," he says, citing O.J. Simpson as an example of how not to address a crisis. “He responded arrogantly, slowly, and belittled and blamed others and did not do well with the public." Instead, Levine recommends Deen follow Hugh Grant's lead back in 1995, when he appeared on "The Tonight Show With Jay Leno" to publicly apologize for having an affair with a prostitute, famously saying, "I did a bad thing." The actor went on to have continued success.

"If you do those four things — if you go fast, humble, personally responsible with contrition, and apology, you're going to basically be OK," says Levine.

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Lalalalala said...

Hello said... 197

Moon did sue.

Mel said...

How long do "work" emails take, anyway?

Most people who are important (hint: not you, Kate) check them constantly, so there isn't a backlog. Even a day's worth of emails should take maybe a half hour to an hour to clean up, I would think.

I can't imagine how many "work" emails she might have anyway. 99% of them are probably "Uh, no, Kate, have nothing for ya right now."

She could just have a standard response she pastes in..."If it's on TV, I'll take it! A trip away from the kids? Even better!"

Millicent said...

The twins could have remained with Kate for other reasons than the perhaps implied (by Kate) reason of not wanting to be with their dad. Maybe Kate and Jon agreed that he would have the six youngest for that week-end, while the twins stayed with Kate. Maybe the twins had some activity going on that made it easier for them to stay home with Kate instead of going to Jon's.

There does not have to be any negative connotation to the twins not being with Jon this past week-end, but I imagine Milo and Kate's other negative nellies would like to paint it in a negative light.

Millicent said...

Starrz - unfortunately, there are always a few twisted people who seek attention by posting outrageous comments about any tragedy. The best you can do is ignore people like that - they are mentally unwell and incapable of rational thought or compassionate feelings.

I am so saddened by the loss of lives in that Arizona fire. Firefighters know they put their lives at risk every time they respond to a fire, but it's such a tragedy whenever it actually happens. This is going to be a very bad fire year in many states. I pray we all get through it intact. My heart goes out to the families who lost a loved one in that AZ fire - it's so very sad.

Tucker's Mom said...

I can't imagine the twins don't want to stay over their dad's house. Especially Cara, who always seemed to adore Jon.

Millicent said...

One of the (many) reasons I post here and don't Tweet or otherwise get directly involved with Kate or her fans, is that no one can find out my real identity. I'm "Millicent" and I follow the rules of the blog and I share little tidbits about myself, but I'm very careful to keep it fairly vague and non-specific. I think all it takes is one crazy or just plain mean-spirited person to cause a lot of trouble for someone if they were so inclined.

On to a generic subject - who is experiencing a truly unpleasant heat wave? *waves hand* I am! I am! we're expecting low triple digits for the next few days - and this makes me very unhappy.

PatK said...

Oh, goody! Kate is now doing a "Memory Monday" and posting old photos of the kids (gotta keep 'em young, ya know!) to gain website hits.

D.E.S.P.E.R.A.T.I.O.N.

Silimom said...

Kate's work emails do take most of her day. She probably spends about an hour total writing and responding to emails and then it's another 7 hours waiting and checking the computer for replies and new mail to come in.

That's hard work, people! C'mon, give the woman a break! Why don't YOU try sitting in front of your computer for hours on end, waiting for email. Walk a mile in her shoes, why don't you?

::wink, wink::

Hello said...

I still have an email from her that said she did not with the reasons why.

Lather, Rinse, Repeat said...

I just read Heckman's blog post, and wouldn't you know it that one of the head ewes is making lengthy "here is MY story" commentary and pestering him just like was done to BV.

Blowing In The Wind said...

Lest we forget how in love Milo is with Kate, the tweets below were retweeted this morning by one of the non-fans. Milo originally tweeted them when the cruise was still a go.

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Those tweets do not sound like they came from a woman who was just a casual fan of Kate. It sounds like a guy who was worried about what Kate might thought of him had they met in person. Really creepy.

Is there a fan on Twitter whose kids want to have a playdate with the Gosselins? Something about going to Henry's farm and wanting to visit the same farm the Gosselins go to? She thinks it's fine because Kate opened up her house to the world?

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Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 4h
@SchmeckyGirl2 @Kateplusmy8 I am an #Oddball...admit it freely. I like 2b a positive influence 4Kate. Some times I guess I irritate! :)

Sometimes?

NJGal51 said...

@Kateplusmy8: Got lotsa sleep!Now I'm wading thru work emails&tasks.My kids 'sleep in' now so I can 2!
Hang on, moms of babies, you'll sleep again2!:)
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Reworded that one sentence actually says "I'm working on wading through emails...." Which is probably closer to the truth. I wonder if she send Milo directly to junk mail.

Blowing In The Wind said...

I just read Heckman's blog post, and wouldn't you know it that one of the head ewes is making lengthy "here is MY story" commentary and pestering him just like was done to BV.

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And what is Heckman supposed to do about it?

I just don't understand these sheep. They align themselves with the most controversial people...for what reason?

Anonymous said...

Millicent - do I need to say any more about the heat other than we're currently in AZ? I looked at the thermometer this morning and it said stinkin' hot!

Blowing In The Wind said...


Hello said... 9

I still have an email from her that said she did not with the reasons why.

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Say what?

"Oh, goody! Kate is now doing a "Memory Monday" and posting old photos of the kids (gotta keep 'em young, ya know!) to gain website hits."

What happened to Menu Mondays? I guess the sheep will continue doing take-out on Mondays.

Melissa NV said...

anonymous said..."Millicent - do I need to say any more about the heat other than we're currently in AZ? I looked at the thermometer this morning and it said stinkin' hot!"

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When it's 114 degrees at midnight, you know that somebody is punishing you for something!!

Parent In Lancaster County said...

MiloandJack
@BarbGilmer @Kateplusmy8 Also Kate is the ONLY breadwinner there...she has 2keep working, besides cooking, cleaning & running her household!

Milo might want to check with her "reliable sources" about that one. She's still putting this stuff out there as fact. Didn't she say she would apologize about that restraining order tweet? Did she ever retract her statement?

Parent In Lancaster County said...

On to a generic subject - who is experiencing a truly unpleasant heat wave? *waves hand* I am! I am! we're expecting low triple digits for the next few days - and this makes me very unhappy.

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Not too bad here. It's 77 degrees, but really humid. We had a 100 percent chance of heavy rain all day, with a flood watch. Nothing. Zero. Not even a drop. You just have to wonder about all of this super hi-tech computer equipment they have. I'll believe it when it actually happens.

Summer Daze said...

@Kateplusmy8: Got lotsa sleep!Now I'm wading thru work emails&tasks.My kids 'sleep in' now so I can 2!
Hang on, moms of babies, you'll sleep again2!:)

No more blog, which was kind of her "work." What work e-mails is she going through? Exactly what work does she do now?

localyocul said...

I find Milo's new alliance with Goody odd. Milo goes on and on about how all Kate wants is for people to be respectful (read: agree with every word she says and worship her) yet she cheers on Goody, the most disrespectful fan around these days. Goody was not like this recently until BV came around IIRC

NJGal51 said...

Amen Melissa, Amen! Waiting for the monsoons to start to cool it down a bit.

foxy said...

Msgoody was always off the wall and bitter. She is as spiteful and hateful as they come. She is a lot like that person in Texas that had some kind of a blog.....the one that screened the potential cruise passengers.

Melissa NV said...

NJGal51 said... 21

Amen Melissa, Amen! Waiting for the monsoons to start to cool it down a bit.

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120 today; 116 tomorrow. No relief in sight.

Layla said...

My take on the "work emails" tweet is that her publisher just added up the total number of sales (end of June) and emailed Kate to ask her why she's not promoting the book. As bad as the pre-sales are, you'd think Kate would be mentioning it more often, but she's not. She's just directing people to her website, and that's obviously not working. You know the publisher is telling her to get off her a** and start spreading the word about this cookbook before they both end up looking like fools.

OrangeCrusher1 said...

Another clueless insult to moms who actually work, both outside the home and those who work at home. She's busy with work e-mails, what a crock of pea soup. Work e-mails should equal work paychecks. And crowing about being able to sleep in, OMG. Who wants to bet the older girls are now in charge of breakfast for all, including a tray for Mommy Dearest. #summerfun

readerlady said...

Millicent 3 -- Another possibility is that, now that the twins are older, the kids split up their visits, with the 6 going one weekend and the twins the next instead of all 8 at once.

It's fairly comfortable here, too, with temps in the high 60's, but the humidity is 87%. Everything feels damp. I'm just thankful it isn't 100 here, too. Hope those of you in the hot zone are okay.

I have a friend who lives near Prescott, AZ, and she says that the whole town is just stunned by the tragic loss of the 19 firefighters. Nearly everyone in the area has a connection to at least one of the victims. May God be with their families.

Somewhere In Time said...

I guess it's just me, but I don't understand this Twitter war between the haters and sheeple. It's not going to end. Yes, the sheeple are dumb as hair, but likewise, the haters don't have too much going for them either in the brain department. Sheeple bait haters; haters bait sheeple. Milo has set herself up to be the protector and guardian of Kate's heart.

What I can't comprehend is why the haters continue this. If they drop off Twitter, what's left? Sheeple arguing with sheeple? That's not going to last very long. Milo will fade into oblivion -- how long can she continue her very important position of "getting Kate's back" if there's nobody there to attack Kate? She would be talking to herself and Kate. No more Milo, the Martyr. No more Goody's violent tirades against the haters. It would soon get very boring for all of them.

So why then do the haters continue this nonsense? I would have hoped they would have some smarts that they could figure this out, but I guess not. The only thing I can see is that they are as addicted to doing battle with the sheeple as the sheeple are at baiting the haters. This could go on forever if Kate doesn't pull the plug on Twitter.

Somewhere In Time said...

And this, from the person who went on a violent rage last night against the "haters," the person who wants Jon and Robert nailed upside down on a cross. Some of these sheep have more than just a few screws loose. They're missing most of the tools in the box.

MsGoody2Shoes21 ‏@msgoody2shoes21 18s
@CarleneMarie_1 @Kateplusmy8 I don't get their belligerent & harassing behavior. They act like they're only one suppose to have opinions.

Somewhere In Time said...

Then Carlene (who reminds me of Brownie) responds to goody:

CarleneMarie ‏@CarleneMarie_1 56s
@msgoody2shoes21 @Kateplusmy8 True. And if it was just a difference of opinion, that would be one thing...but it's vicious and vile hate.

What in the world does she call those rants that Goody puts out on Twitter? Sweet, loving, kind and gentle? Such hypocrisy!

I need a drink...

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Somewhere, I've put out some lemonade on the porch for us south westerners baking in the heat. I'll make a rumspringa for you though!

Somewhere In Time said...

Somewhere, I've put out some lemonade on the porch for us south westerners baking in the heat. I'll make a rumspringa for you though!

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Thanks, admin. Could you please make it a triple with some good beer and gouda pretzels on the side?? Oh, and some honey mustard dipping sauce? Bless you!

Somewhere In Time said...

Non fans have so often been accused of being jealous of Kate. Carlene now asserts that non-fans are jealous of Milo. Good lord what next?

CarleneMarie ‏@CarleneMarie_1 14m
@MiloandJack @Kateplusmy8 You have the best one-liners. That's why they attack U...they're jealous!

Somewhere In Time said...

Where's Auntie Ann?? Anyone hear from her? I hope she's okay!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

That tweet has to be a joke. She's making fun of her, has to be.

localyocul said...

Somewhere In Time said... 31
Non fans have so often been accused of being jealous of Kate. Carlene now asserts that non-fans are jealous of Milo. Good lord what next?

CarleneMarie ‏@CarleneMarie_1 14m
@MiloandJack @Kateplusmy8 You have the best one-liners. That's why they attack U...they're jealous!

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The three amigos (Carlene surprises me too tonight she is usually mild) are really trying to bait the nonfans. I hope the nonfans don't take the bait.

I Remember It ALL said...

Heckman is referring to Gosselinbook's author Bob Hoffman when he is talking about the Reading Eagle. He is offering to provide evidence AGAINST Bob if Kate sues. ROFLMAO! He was in a dust up with Bohemian Moon and then turned on the two haters who fed him bad information on Moon's son. What does any of that have to do with Bob Hoffman? NOTHING!!! Anything he has on Bob is coming from his imagination.

FYI said...

Perhaps if Kate publicized her book more, she wouldn't be getting tweets like this:

Leanna McGovern ‏@mcgovern_leanna 16m
@Kateplusmy8 ...Kate! I hear you have a cookbook out, or in process? Can I possibly let me know how I can purchase? I want those pancakes!

Of course, Milo jumped right in and saved the day by tweeting the link to Kate's website.

Now Milo thinks Netflix should pay Kate for airing episodes of her show:

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 43m
@Kateplusmy8 All these folks watching U guys on #Netflix..sure wish #Netflix would share the money they make w/U & ur family! It ur life! :)

She really comes up with some crazy ones, doesn't she?

Somewhere In Time said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 34

That tweet has to be a joke. She's making fun of her, has to be.

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I don't think so. She doesn't make fun of Milo. Pathetic, isn't it?

FYI said...

It tweets like these that make Milo look creepier and creepier.

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 43m
@Kateplusmy8 Yeah...where is our lil Sassyfrass Alexis! The one that truly looks like U Kate! LOL U can't leave her out..more pics please!

"Our"? Why do she and the other sheeple act as if those kids belong to them? If I were Kate, that would totally creep me out.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

A bit of realitytvkids history, back in the wee early days when there were only a few people hanging out here, Moon saw a couple posts that caught her eye and posted fondly about us and linked to us. It was a turning point for this blog, commentors shot up in the dozens overnight from that link, and the rest was history, as they say. I thank her for that and wish her well.

I have to plead ignorance as to what that is all about. I'm afraid I don't quite understand the purpose of that post today, other than the clear message he doesn't want to be involved. That's what I took from it anyhow. If I knew anything about it, I've forgotten. I do remember not following it all that carefully in the first place and feeling like something was "off". I found it quite confusing, and still do.

I did want to say something about The Reading Eagle publishing witness names, as that is a journalistic ethical issue that greatly interests me. I don't understand how it's all tied in, but it does interest me. Unfortunately I have found virtually nothing else on the internet talking about this, which greatly surprised me and was actually making me start to wonder if this was even true. I finally fond one other blurb corroborating this, an archive of the victim's own mother. But she said it was his name and age that was published (not his address). Obviously though, you could find him with just that. Publishing witness names and otherwise compromising an investigation is a pretty big ethical no-no in the journalism world and I'd be surprised if they published this as a matter of course without some other good reason to violate pretty hard and fast ethical rules. I definitely want to hear all of this story, including their side of it.

However, it should be noted that The Reading Eagle has also done a lot of good for crime. Some time ago they decided to do sort of a "cold case" series on unsolved crimes and their series resulted in a lot of those crimes being solved. So I don't like the notion that they are just this one big unethical regime out to get people. I know this paper pretty well and there has been a lot of talent there over the years, they have won numerous awards, and I think for the size of their readership they are superb. You simply cannot get that quality of a newspaper in similar small towns. But with that caliber of journalism, the desire to go beyond the simple obituaries or pancake breakfasts of other small papers, comes some choices not everyone will agree with. I'd be curious if the locals here know more about the witness names issue or if they have thoughts about the Reading Eagle's caliber too.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I swear we must be on different planets than the sheeple. Of all the kids, Alexis looks like Jon the most! She's all Jon!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I'm not sure I really get what they are trying to say here anyway. Everyone keeps saying oh this all has to do with some big feud between the Reading Eagle and the Gosselins. That's right, it does. I don't think anyone is disputing that, are they? What is their POINT? What does it matter how it all started. It's irrelevant.

The way I see it is a journalist got a bee in her bonnet that something smelled like rotten fish over at the Gosselins and started going after them. Some people loved what the paper was doing (taxpayers like myself in particular!), some didn't, but it got ratings and the bad behavior didn't stop, so it kept going until finally it all got so contentious the newspaper sort of backed away from it and let it go, as most normal people do eventually when something has become so toxic it is no longer worth your energy.

Eventually the family befriended one of the players as has happened to many other journalists and their subjects before them, not a big freaking deal. Years later, with probably still some bad blood in the air and nothing ever really resolved or made peace among the parties, a family member of the journalist decided to write a tell all.

So what if it has to do with some old unresolved bad blood? It doesn't prove or disprove anything, and since no one is denying this goes back years or trying to cover up what started this all, I fail to see their point.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Perhaps if Kate publicized her book more, she wouldn't be getting tweets like this:

Leanna McGovern @mcgovern_leanna 16m
@Kateplusmy8 ...Kate! I hear you have a cookbook out, or in process? Can I possibly let me know how I can purchase? I want those pancakes!

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Your are slammed with three count them three separate blog posts hawking her book when you get to her web site, before you ever get to the post she "links" to she claims she really wants you to see. How did this poor sheeple miss all that?

As for posting pics of the kids, of course she is. She will sell them for every last penny and when that's through recycle and sell again. Classic Kate. Hey isn't 12 about the age a teenager is MORTIFIED by baby pictures?

localyocul said...

Darn it, they took the bait. Sheeesh

Tucker's Mom said...

I Remember It ALL said... 36
Heckman is referring to Gosselinbook's author Bob Hoffman when he is talking about the Reading Eagle. He is offering to provide evidence AGAINST Bob if Kate sues. ROFLMAO! He was in a dust up with Bohemian Moon and then turned on the two haters who fed him bad information on Moon's son. What does any of that have to do with Bob Hoffman? NOTHING!!! Anything he has on Bob is coming from his imagination.
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What case? There is no case.

Somewhere In Time said...


localyocul said... 44

Darn it, they took the bait. Sheeesh

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If this would be a daytime soap, you'd never believe the plot. Sheeple bait haters, haters take the bait, then one of the three sheeple amigos goes off on an out-of-control rant about how bad the haters are, when that person is the one who baited them to begin with!

localyocul said...

Of course it was of Alexis that Kate didn't put a picture. She's the "forgotten" daughter. The other two are banana phone BFFs. Three is a bad number when it comes to girls...one is always left out and I feel bad for Alexis. She's my favorite..the free spirit

Virginia Pen Mom said...

Somewhere In Time said... 33
Where's Auntie Ann?? Anyone hear from her? I hope she's okay!

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I've been wondering, too. It's Auntie Ann, not Milo, who has the best one-liners!

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

local (44) said,

"Darn it, they took the bait. Sheeesh"

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This back and forth baiting, hurling insults, and just general tormenting is something you would expect to see among middle-schoolers, or even kids in grade school...not from adults. Such immaturity on both sides.

Jane said...

I remember Moon's site and some of what happened. Not sure it's worth rehashing, there was a lot of anger on both sides as well as threats, outing people....pretty much what you see now! Some of the original people are still around. I came to it all kind of late and never really caught up which is probably a good thing. Some of the websites from the 'old days' are still around - I took a look earlier and see Goody and others posting back then. Some of the cast has changed but the back and forth between the fans and non-fans hasn't changed a smidgen!

A good author could make a bundle off this mess!

localyocul said...

Somewhere In Time said... 46


then one of the three sheeple amigos goes off on an out-of-control rant about how bad the haters are, when that person is the one who baited them to begin with!

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Gee which one would go on a rant LOL. And they are sooo hypocritical! They contradict themselves from one tweet to the next! This one is nutty too:

hater hater ‏@BuzzedBunny
@Kateplusmy8 Hey hugegrannie whats "bug the crap our of TLC" DUH English much?

hater hater ‏@BuzzedBunny
@Kateplusmy8 Positive, kind, supportive people have much better lives than the nasty vile & hateful.

Those two tweets were a minute apart! They make no sense!!!!

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

"Our"? Why do she and the other sheeple act as if those kids belong to them? If I were Kate, that would totally creep me out.

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Because she believes that these kids really do belong to her. Kate put them out there. Milo and the sheeple adopted them. The fans support Kate, and because they have pledged their undying love for Kate, she, along with the kids, belong to them. They are all one big happy family. And, of course, we are all jealous of Milo. Gag.

OrangeCrusher1 said...

Hate to ask, but when she is walking down memory lane with baby pictures, does she remember she also has sons?

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 26m
@BuzzedBunny @Kateplusmy8 Let me add my voice 2this! Head Hunchos @TLC...what part don't U get abt the love 4 #KatePlusEight ??

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 26m
Hey U folks @TLC...come read @Kateplusmy8's timeline...folks loved loved the show! U canceled prematurely! We want this show back! :)

Oh, geez...now she's going to be pestering TLC.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Jane I think you're right it's not worth rehashing. I don't normally like the expression "it is what it is" but in this case it just fits.

Sleepless In Seattle said...

Milo tweeted:

@BuzzedBunny @Kateplusmy8 Let me add my voice 2this! Head Hunchos @TLC...what part don't U get abt the love 4 #KatePlusEight ??

Head "hunchos" -- a bell ringer at Notre Dame? LOL! I think Milo means honcho!

Layla said...

The sheeple definitely have certain topics that they know to push. Tonight there are loads of them gushing about missing the show, watching it obsessively on Netflix, etc. Then, right on cue, Milo jumps in to tweet TLC and remind them how many people looove Kate. I don't think TLC is that dumb. There are plenty of ways to manipulate Twitter. What Kate couldn't manipulate were the poor ratings of her show. That's why it was cancelled. Or the poor sales of her cruise. Which is why that, too, was cancelled. Or the lack of popularity of her blogs, which is why she has now been fired from two of them. Or the abysmal sales of her books (IJWYTK and the cookbook). Kate couldn't buy viewers of cruisers or readers, so those are the real numbers to look at. Not purchased followers or faulty counters. The real numbers show that she is not well liked at all.

Virginia Pen Mom said...

Sleepless In Seattle said... 56
Milo tweeted:

@BuzzedBunny @Kateplusmy8 Let me add my voice 2this! Head Hunchos @TLC...what part don't U get abt the love 4 #KatePlusEight ??

Head "hunchos" -- a bell ringer at Notre Dame? LOL! I think Milo means honcho!

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LOL, Sleepless! I get it. Milo means the executive at TLC whose heads are hunched over scripts and pilots, hehehe.

chefsummer #Leh said...

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 26m
@BuzzedBunny @Kateplusmy8 Let me add my voice 2this! Head Hunchos @TLC...what part don't U get abt the love 4 #KatePlusEight ??
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Milo it's like Tina Turner said "What love got to do with it"?

Virginia Pen Mom said...

SSA_JJ ‏@SSA_JJ 9h
@Kateplusmy8 may I have an early birthday tweet?

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8 6h
@SSA_JJ happy early birthday to you!! Another year, more chances to make a positive difference in the world-- use it wisely! XO :)


Kate's trying to reinvent herself again--the dog whisperer, the one who knew just the right wisdom to impart to an 18 year old... She's wise, she's motivational and inspirational, and she reeks--reeks, I tell you--of "positivity." (They've ruined that word for me.)

I just bet someone would be willing to pay Kate Gosselin $100,000 to speak at their motivational conference. Someone? Anyone? No takers?? Even with all this POSITIVITY? Oh, well. Good try though, Kate.

Maybe she should try reinventing herself as a nurse.

chefsummer #Leh said...

How do you have work e-mails if you don't have a job??

Am I missing something here or did KK re-define work e-mail?

Somewhere In Time said...

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 3m
@RealZiggyFlo @Kateplusmy8 Clearly over& over again we see fans talking abt watching marathons of Kate & kids..@TLC needs 2make this happen!

Time for bed, Milo. TLC is not going to listen to you. What the sheeple don't get is that Kate can't carry a show on her own, and her kids, while cute children, are growing up and are not marketable anymore. The sheeple are living in the past. These kids are not babies or toddlers, there are no more cute sayings that come out of their mouths, and Jon isn't around to torment. The show would never fly.

Sleepless In Seattle said...

MiloandJack
@RealZiggyFlo @Kateplusmy8 @TLC Ha...don't get me started on that! The whole trip was a #SetUp 2create the perfect storm 4Kate! Was cruel!

What in the world, Milo? You're begging TLC to bring back the show, and then you tweet that they set up the whole RV episode to make Kate look bad. You say it was cruel, but in the same breath, they'd be good enough to put Kate on their network again. What's wrong with you?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

So what? People watch reruns of Twin Peaks, The West Wing, Damages, to name a few, over and over. It doesn't mean they're coming back. It's over. The show ran its course. There's no place for it anymore. The kids would probably be way too busy with school and other activities anyway for production to film anything meaningful. At most they can hope for a follow up special, something TLC promised they would try to do but it never happened. If they can't even make due on a follow up special how on earth are they going to spring for a new series? They need to get a grip.

Sleepless In Seattle said...

Oh, my word. Kate retweeted this. Is she going to buy a shirt? Still supporting BV, I see.

Bullyville ‏@BullyVille 8h
We have started a campaign to raise money for @StJude by selling BV shirts. If you'd like to help, please click here: http://teespring.com/bullyville
Retweeted by Kate Gosselin

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Dear Kate, please stop insulting women who have actual jobs with "work e-mails." Love, The Real Working America

chefsummer #Leh said...

What don't her fans get TLC fired Kate.



chefsummer #Leh said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 66
Dear Kate, please stop insulting women who have actual jobs with "work e-mails." Love, The Real Working America
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I just want one fan to ask her what is this so called work e-mail.

chefsummer #Leh said...

OMG their a How much do you know about Kate Gosselin Test.

http://web.buddytv.com/user-quizzes/take-user-quiz.aspx?qid=600000508

PatK said...

Time to bombard TLC with that sheeple logic!!! Geesh. lol

Sleepless In Seattle said...

Dear Kate, please stop insulting women who have actual jobs with "work e-mails." Love, The Real Working America

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And rubbing it in how she gets to sleep late when real working American women are off to work at 7 a.m.

Sleepless In Seattle said...

They need to get a grip.

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Milo, getting a grip? Surely you jest! I think Milo's days of gripping ended when she descended into this Gosselin worship!

PatK said...

Am I the only one here who silently cheers each night when Milo proclaims it's "lights out time"?

fidosmommy said...

Didn't Kate mention about a year ago that she had "associations" with several companies, and that was part of her "workload"? It seems to me it was about the time she sent a package off sealed with a kiss, but I could have that wrong.

Over In Kate's County said...

Maybe she should try reinventing herself as a nurse.

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Oh, sheesh, Virginia. Don't wish that on any patients in this area!! :)

Over In Kate's County said...

Admin, you're interested in the Civil War. Why aren't you over here for the 150th anniversary of the battle? So much going on, so many reenactments, opening of a new museum, walking tours, lectures...

Of course, it's a bit on the warm side and the humidity is nasty.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Over that sounds great. I wish I could!

chefsummer #Leh said...

Over In Kate's County said... 74
Maybe she should try reinventing herself as a nurse.

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Oh, sheesh, Virginia. Don't wish that on any patients in this area!! :)
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No need to worry Kate isn't going back to nursing any time soon.

Over In Kate's County said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 77

Over that sounds great. I wish I could!

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I wish you could be, too. I attended a living history lecture on the field hospital -- how medicine was made, surgical techniques, the disposal of limbs, brain surgery, and it was incredible. You just can't imagine the horrors that the wounded soldiers endured. Limbs were just thrown into a pile, collected once a day in wagons, and taken to a field where they were either burned or buried. Surgeons' knives were wiped off on their shirts, and they went on to the next patient. It also included a presentation on what was done with the bodies, including those of the horses. They said that the smell of the dead horses hung over the town for weeks. A little known fact is that many women of the town were out in the fields digging graves and burying limbs. It was an excellent presentation.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Over, that's fascinating. A character in my novel is a Civil War surgeon (i.e. medic in modern terms) so I read quite a bit about that. I've always been interested in the home front as well as the jobs that weren't directly on the battle field like the medics. Two areas not talked about as much.

There's a few things going on out here the past couple years for the 150th of the war in general, more than I would expect for the west coast. There's actually quite a big group of folks out here who are very interested in this area. The Moorpark Rotary Club does a huge event in November every year, I highly recommend it. But nothing like back East. There were so many Civil War reenactors back home I knew several of them personally! I did get to go to Vicksburg in January, which was great. It was a weekday so no one was there.

Over In Kate's County said...

If you believe in the paranormal, this is one time I would have loved to have been one of these women and experienced the Civil War "hospital" up close and personal!

"Mark Nesbitt, one of the foremost authorities and authors on the ghosts of Gettysburg, relates one of the area’s most gruesome experiences. Pennsylvania Hall at Gettysburg College has been the site of many Civil War era ghost encounters, but perhaps none can compare to what two college administrators saw one night.

One hundred years previous, the building had been used as a field hospital for many of the fierce battle’s wounded. But on this night, as the two administrators were taking the elevator from the fourth floor down to the first, the long-ago nightmare wasn’t even on their minds.

Inexplicably, the elevator passed the first floor and continued on to the basement. The basement storage room had vanished and in its place was the blood-splattered operating room of 1863. Wounded men were lying prone on the floor and administering to them were doctors and orderlies in bloody clothing. The entire scene was completely silent, although it was obvious that it was one of chaos.

Stunned and horrified, the administrators repeatedly pushed at the elevator button. Just before the doors closed though, one of the spectral orderlies was said to have looked up, directly at the two administrators, as though asking them for help."

Over In Kate's County said...

Am I the only one here who silently cheers each night when Milo proclaims it's "lights out time"?

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I'm right there with you, Pat, although I can't imagine what it must be like to have someone tell you that you need to hit the sack. That wouldn't happen here. What does he do if she refuses?

PatK said...

Over In Kate's County said... 82
Am I the only one here who silently cheers each night when Milo proclaims it's "lights out time"?

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I'm right there with you, Pat, although I can't imagine what it must be like to have someone tell you that you need to hit the sack. That wouldn't happen here. What does he do if she refuses?


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Make her drop and give him twenty?

Loves to Read said...

Layla said... 164
The cookbook has sold 61 copies in June ( 55 in the US, 5 in the UK, and 1 in Canada). That's a total of 226 books pre-ordered in Amazon, and probably no more than 400 pre-ordered, total. Her numbers are going down each month. I wonder what her July sales will look like. My guess is around 50. We'll just have to wait and see...

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Here's the breakdown so far:

MARCH: 12 (11 US, 0 UK, 1 CA)
APRIL: 84 (77 US, 3 UK, 4 CA)
MAY: 69 (59 US, 7 UK, 3 CA)
JUNE: 61 (55 US, 5 UK, 1 CA)
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TOTAL: 226 Books


Total Sales by Country:

US: 202
UK: 15
CA: 9
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226


226 books in 94 days (average: 2.40/day)
April average: 2.8/day
May average: 2.23/day
June average: 2.03 /day

Kristine said...

Cruise Director extraordinaire, Cindy Cardella's Twitter feed- from the cancelled Kate vacation. Thanks for the laughs & links, RH! I was reading some of the tweets from back then, and this made me chuckle. (Just came back from the Caribbean/Lauderdale with family myself for sister's wedding.) Kate's bucket-list dream #101... ended. Cindy announced the Cruise was cancelled, days later. Talk about false advertising.
________________________________________________

Cindy Cardella ‏@CindyCardella 24 Apr 12
@Fxxxx @kateplusmy8 I also have some higher categories available. I can check it out tomorrow. Let me know if you are interested

Cindy Cardella ‏@CindyCardella 24 Apr 12
@Fxxxx @kateplusmy8 Yes I think I have one more D4 Balcony.There are some more available on the ship but I have group space @ a lower rate

Cindy Cardella ‏@CindyCardella 24 Apr 12
@Kateplusmy8 Cruise w/ Kate on #Royal Caribbean this Aug on the #Allure of the Seas! Go to http://Kategosselincruise.com & Join us B4 it is sold out

Cindy Cardella ‏@CindyCardella 23 Apr 12
@gxxxx @mxxxx @kateplusmy8 You got the last 2 rooms in your category.

fidosmommy said...

Is anyone familiar with Alexa? It seems to be a website version of Novel rank.

http://www.alexa.com/search?q=kate+gosselin+the+stir&p=gkey&r=site_screener

Kristine said...

In regard to the Cookboo(B)k numbers... Oh good Lord, I have distributed more copies of my mother's secret Lemon Lush recipe in a year.

226 books in 94 days (average: 2.40/day)
April average: 2.8/day
May average: 2.23/day
June average: 2.03 /day

localyocul said...

Sleepless In Seattle said... 63
MiloandJack
@RealZiggyFlo @Kateplusmy8 @TLC Ha...don't get me started on that! The whole trip was a #SetUp 2create the perfect storm 4Kate! Was cruel!

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But it wasn't cruel when Kate screamed at Jon in Toys R Us? Or she threatened to throw away a beloved stuffed animal because of gum? Not to mention, if everything Milo says about Kate were true..strong, positive, can-do-anything, there would BE no "perfect storm". Kate would have been able to handle her all-paid-for trip in luxury campers to places people dream of going and would have been able to withstand the terrible tragedy of someone eating Steve's pizza.

localyocul said...

Oh, and I clicked on @TLC. A big picture of Honey Boo Boo is on their page LOLOL

JoyinVirginia said...

Kristine, did you say RECIPE?
I am not sure what Lemon Lush is, it sure does sound delicious! Could you share with us please? I'm looking for some new recipes to try on Thur or the weekend.

Dmasy said...

Kristine, I googled Lemon Lush. There is a simple recipe with cream cheese. Does that sound like your mother's famous bars.

I am looking for a lemon dessert for guest this weekend. Thanks for giving me a lead.

Your mom would be proud that you have been sharing her secret recipe.

Tucker's Mom said...

Kate set up on her show? To look bad?
Let's see what Kate had to say about that subject, shall we?

Quote:
"In an interview with Huffington Post, Gosselin spoke about having the ability to produce her show.
“I’m really good at producing our show because I know our lives. I know how to convey us for real,” Gosselin told the Post. “I know when things translate into TV and what’s not quite as accurate as you want it to be. I’m good at it 'cause I live this life.”

Read more at http://newyork.christianpost.com/news/kate-gosselin-wants-to-become-a-producer-53585/#GTEUM8dUEOPB74I5.99

"“I have always been very true to who we are,” Gosselin said to the Post. “In that regard I have always helped produce. Now in recent seasons it’s easier because I can see it from my life as well as seeing how episodes come together from their [producers] perspective.”

Read more at http://newyork.christianpost.com/news/kate-gosselin-wants-to-become-a-producer-53585/#GTEUM8dUEOPB74I5.99 "

Article:
http://www.christianpost.com/news/kate-gosselin-wants-to-become-a-producer-53585/

If TLC turned on Kate, Kate returned the favor by going from "the kids just run in and out of frame, it's the realest reality show on TV, THE SHOW IS NOT SCRIPTED!", to, "TLC edits the show for drama, pfft"

I think TLC pulled back the curtain a bit and I think we saw the tip of the iceberg in later episode of K+8. Sure, putting Kate in a RV was a set up for drama and Kate complied by being a controlling kill joy who annoyed everyone she came in contact with.

Tucker's Mom said...

Kristine said... 87
In regard to the Cookboo(B)k numbers... Oh good Lord, I have distributed more copies of my mother's secret Lemon Lush recipe in a year.
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Care to share here?!
Seriously, one of my favorite desserts ever. I knew it as Lemon Fluff growing up but could never replicate my Aunt's recipe. I just Googled it and found more results for Lemon Lush vs. Fluff.
Will definitely make sometime soon.

Knows Quality said...

chefsummer said... 68
I just want one fan to ask her what is this so called work e-mail.
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But...surely we all know Kate well enough by now to know EXACTLY what her "work e-mail" is....

It's grifting.

She is sending emails out by the hundreds to companies, TV execs, producers, casting agents, media representatives, etc - desperately trying to:

1. Get back into the business
2. Get ANYTHING for free

This is basically all she knows how to do - as she's been perfecting it for years and years, since before the tups were born. In her twisted mind, it's considered "work" because there's a payoff in the end - if she gets her free product.

Bleh.

I can only hope the Freebie Gravy Train has slowed down - or stopped completely.

FYI said...

Milo apparently thinks that attacking TLC will incite them to put Kate back on the air. I don't think an accusation like this is going to endear Kate and her fans to TLC.

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 10h
@RealZiggyFlo @Kateplusmy8 thru Neflix & reruns world wide...@TLC continues 2make money off Kate&kids..not right! #CompensateThem #NewShow

So it's not right for TLC to make money off of Kate, but it's okay for Kate to make money off of her kids.

I like how Sandie questioned her tweet:

Sandie ‏@SandieBelllz 2h
@MiloandJack I'm sure an attorney reviewed the contract and explained its terms. How do you know there is no payment?

Why do they think tweeting and harassing TLC is going to change TLC's mind about Kate's show. It didn't work 2 years ago, it's not going to work now. Remember the online petitions they set up? They didn't work either.

They complain about people harassing Kate, but aren't they doing the same to TLC? I wouldn't be surprised if TLC has them all blocked.

Kate should be so embarrassed.


Tucker's Mom said...

Knows Quality said... 94
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Agree. Kate was very aggressive about contacting companies to "help them market" their products and wasn't shy in asking for freebies.
I just can't fathom who she would be working with or representing at this point. P&G fell through, as did Healthtex.
I think she's relegated to email to do this nowadays because you have to disclose any freebies or relationship with companies when you get freebies. Note how all of the @Target, @CoffeeMate, @Keurig etc. has stopped...

chefsummer #Leh said...

PatK said... 83
Over In Kate's County said... 82
Am I the only one here who silently cheers each night when Milo proclaims it's "lights out time"?

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I'm right there with you, Pat, although I can't imagine what it must be like to have someone tell you that you need to hit the sack. That wouldn't happen here. What does he do if she refuses?


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Make her drop and give him twenty?
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Me to I saw her say this and laughed.

chefsummer #Leh said...

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 10h
@RealZiggyFlo @Kateplusmy8 thru Neflix & reruns world wide...@TLC continues 2make money off Kate&kids..not right! #CompensateThem #NewShow

So it's not right for TLC to make money off of Kate, but it's okay for Kate to make money off of her kids.
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Yes it is wrong cause only Kate is allowed to make monies from the kids-(duh).-)

And it's Kate fault that she was to stupid not to get paid.

For re-run or get a percentage of merchandise that TLC was selling.

Tucker's Mom said...

Interesting short article in the Boston Globe that looks at both sides of the Paula Deen debacle:
"Read the depositions, and one thing becomes clear: This lawsuit is about Bubba. Deen’s name is on it because she owns a stake in his restaurant — and because she is the one with all the money.


STEPHEN MORTON/ASSOCIATED PRESS

Bubba Hiers, who is Paula Deen’s brother and subject of a lawsuit, grills oysters at his restaurant in Savannah, Ga., in 2006.

Article:
http://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/columns/2013/07/01/paula-deen-bubba-problem/K1XaiboF3jtKhthkUt7KKM/story.html

Also, Dr. Lillian Glass weighed in on Paula's apology (ish):
http://drlillianglassbodylanguageblog.wordpress.com/2013/06/28/paula-deens-body-language-fake-tears-insincere-apology-and-racist-punchline-tuned-off-fans-and-sponsors-and/

As Dr. Phil says "no matter how flat you make a pancake, there's always 2 sides. I think there are 2 problems going on here. First and foremost is Paula's f*ck up little brother who she's probably been protecting and taking care of all of her life. Maybe goes back to their childhood.
Second is the incredibly poor PR response from Paula and her camp. She's either surrounded by idiots, or refuses to take good advice.
If you get beyond the use of the N-word, offensive and destructive as it can be, then you're left with the meat of the matter, which is a female employee who worked for Bubba, not Paula, Bubba.
But, Paula is the one with the deepest pockets here. Apparently if not for Paula, Bubba wouldn't have a pot to piss in.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Tucker, I've been wondering where Bubba is in all this. Why doesn't HE come forward and stand with his sister and apologize. Although she was the one who let the bad behavior happen, he was doing most of the bad behavior.

A real MAN wouldn't let his sister take the fall for this. But then it's clear from everything I've read he's no man.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

TLC continues 2make money off Kate&kids

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Wait, they don't know this. Although many reality T.V. contracts do not include royalties, once they hit it big and Kate got savvy enough to negotiate a huge salary, how do they know Kate didn't negotiate royalties too forever and ever? For all they know every time TLC reruns an episode or sells a DVD Kate gets a cut. I don't recall anyone ever saying the family DOESN'T get royalties now, at least for the later years of Kate Plus 8.

Or are they saying their queen is....stupid???

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I don't think I've seen this posted here. Someone has a photo of Kate with her kid in Wegmans on April 4. I know there are a few Wegmans in PA but I thought there wasn't one anywhere near her. Wasn't there one near Steve? Locals?

She actually looks normal, happy, and appropriately dressed.

http://statigr.am/p/426985358450505817_176233853

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Ha and then there's this one:

http://statigr.am/p/417434277436551523_215987907

FYI said...

ealitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 101
TLC continues 2make money off Kate&kids
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Wait, they don't know this
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Don't forget--Milo has inside "sources", so if she says it, it must be true.


Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

You know this is just a perfect example of how Kate and the sheeple see the world. I.e. NO responsibility falls on Kate, it's all everyone else's fault. I cannot stand this world view.

I know not everyone gives them a pass, but I give them a pass when they first signed up. They would not be the first naive inexperienced reality stars to be taken with an unfair contract. ***BUT** since then there have been at least once contract re-negotiation. At that point, she should have been smart enough to get a good entertainment law lawyer or contract attorney and negotiate the heck out of it, making sure the family was getting royalties and fair cuts of everything sold even after the show was over.

If she's not getting her fair cut of what TLC is still making off her (which at this point can't be that much, they only replay the episodes occasionally and I suppose they have their netflix contract, but that's about it), then that's HER fault at this point. I can't stand this belly aching about how TLC makes money of them. Excuse me, they are a network, that's what they're supposed to do, and if Kate isn't getting what's hers that's her problem for being so dumb.

chefsummer #Leh said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 103
Ha and then there's this one:

http://statigr.am/p/417434277436551523_215987907
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They're free and still no one wants them..HA

Tucker's Mom said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 100
Tucker, I've been wondering where Bubba is in all this. Why doesn't HE come forward and stand with his sister and apologize. Although she was the one who let the bad behavior happen, he was doing most of the bad behavior.
*******
I know that one of Paula's son's, I believe Bobby, has spoken out on his mom's behalf and has gone after Ms. Schaffer (sp?) and her character.

As for Milo getting pissy with TLC, talk about biting the hand that feeds/fed you! TLC and the G's benefited greatly from the juggernaut that was J+K+8. Whether J+K see any residuals, I don't know. How Milo knows is beyond me.
And tell me this, oh critical thinker, if Kate gets NO money from any rerun or dvd sold, why is she constantly retweeting anyone and everyone that says they're watching them?

Tucker's Mom said...

To the royalties point, Kate's fans have to recognize that certainly Jon deserves to get royalties too, doesn't he?
He headlined the TV series. He came up with the name!
They just want him cut off from everything.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Wait, hopefully this is not still Deanna belly aching to Milo about how TLC made SOOO much money off the family and Kate got jack. She's the real puppet here!

I have a suggestion for Deanna. Go tell it to a fencepost.

chefsummer #Leh said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 105

You know this is just a perfect example of how Kate and the sheeple see the world. I.e. NO responsibility falls on Kate, it's all everyone else's fault. I cannot stand this world view.
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Exactly it's all ways some on else to blame beside herself.

Tucker's Mom said...

Admin, the other attitude that Milo perpetuates is that somehow, TLC is responsible for taking care of Kate for the rest of her life.
When you leave a job, you move on and get another one, and another salary. Although I believe I helped build, maintain and enrich entities in which I've practices, and left intellectual property behind, it is theirs.
Bummer, but it is.
How many times have we read about HUGE stars from the '70' & '80's who are living hand to mouth now because they make pennies off of reruns, action figures and lunch boxes?
They lived in a bubble and never prepared for life outside the spotlight where no one would be throwing money at them.
Reality tv, tv series/shows, they all end. You have to have a plan. A reality tv show is not like passing the bar or getting your license to practice medicine, where you can have it for LIFE if you so choose. You are at the mercy of the invisible hand that puts talanted actors and boobs alike on TV and the big screen.

FYI said...

Milo responded to Sandie:

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 2m
@SandieBelllz I asked...& she told me..."no residuals"...with a (: following her answer! Its a shame...would be nice supplemental income.

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 1m
@SandieBelllz Never ever meant 2imply Kate's not on top of her game! Kate is very smart..but I think its the nature of RealityTV back then.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Tucker, amen. I don't really like this attitude for most jobs you have, and certainly not a job you only did for five years. Pensions are a hot topic in CA because pensions are contributing to the massive debt. A lot of people are starting to say wait a minute, I don't have a pension and I work just as darn hard as the next guy and I save my OWN pension. The bottom line is a pension is a perk, not a right, and everyone I know who has them is very grateful and understands not everyone gets that perk. TLC is not responsible for Kate's personal pension. Every person is responsible for a plan should their job ever end. It is not fair that a hard working American has busted their butt to sock away every last dollar they could into their retirement plans and other accounts so they can survive someday, but Milo thinks Kate should just get an income stream just because. I did not like griftors before Kate, during Kate, or after Kate. I did not like people who pass the buck either. Or people who expect something from nothing. In any case Kate seems to be doing just fine financially so why is Milo so worried.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

No Milo. You did imply Kate is not on top of her game.

She is an outright IDIOT for not negotiating residuals. An idiot and that's HER PROBLEM. Thanks for confirming that. You're good for something!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

On another note it probably would not have been "nice supplemental income." They rarely show these episodes. Kate would be lucky to get a check for a couple bucks in the mail every month. Residuals are no money train unless they're showing your episodes constantly.

Ex Nurse said...

Kate is a twit said...


I like how Sandie questioned her tweet:

Sandie ‏@SandieBelllz 2h
@MiloandJack I'm sure an attorney reviewed the contract and explained its terms. How do you know there is no payment?

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Great point...maybe she gets residuals. as admin said, there was a 2n contract. Hard to believe that she doesn't get anything. Maybe that is the mysterious income stream. If she has it, then maybe the kids and Jon have it. Maybe Jon gave that to the kids in lieu of child support--that would explain why his child support dropped.

She obviously has an income stream that supports her lifestyle. I don't think it is from the dollar stores where the publishers dumped her New York best-sellers.

Kelly H. said...

Admin:

Not from Kate's area but I am in Wegmans country in Upstate NY. I know that Wegmans has been expanding throughout PA lately.

Ex Nurse said...

I read the Matt Heckman blog post and the lengthy exchange with Ziggy. He sounds much saner than in the past, and said that he regrets his participation in the feeding frenzy around the Gosselins.

He said that Kate was his wife's nurse for labor and delivery, and that she was funny and professional.

In the comments exchange, he speculated that the lawsuit against Jon and Hoffman may be as a felony offense for the criminal use of communications ( I am summarizing), which has a penalty up to $15000 and/or prison sentence up to 7 years (law reference: 18 PA Cons. Stat 7512). He is currently doing website development, and is familiar with technology related statutes in PA. Ziggy also gives a thorough dissertation on various garbage laws and how they may be interpreted (fascinating stuff).

Anyway, thought Admin might be interested in looking at statute and commenting on her opinion. It seemed to only apply when the use of communication is for another felony, but I could be wrong. But, it is a reasonable theory for the basis a lawsuit or getting criminal charges brought.

His blog: mattheckman.net

LB said...

Milo believes when Kate said 'no residuals' that it applied to everything. If I recall correctly, it was only about the DVDs TLC produced after each season was filmed. I think it was for the first and/or second seasons? I'm sure by then J&K learned they could get royalities from that market, they included it in their renewal contract.

rainbowsandunicorns said...

Or people who expect something from nothing. In any case Kate seems to be doing just fine financially so why is Milo so worried.

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Maybe she thinks that when the two of them finally move in together, Milo will have to support Kate.

Tucker's Mom said...

Ex Nurse said... 118
I read the Matt Heckman blog post and the lengthy exchange with Ziggy.
*****
I read it too, but, what lawsuit exactly? And I didn't glean why exactly he felt the need to comment "one more time".
It just wasn't clear to me.
Is there any evidence of a suit against Jon?

Tucker's Mom said...

I'm sure by then J&K learned they could get royalities from that market, they included it in their renewal contract.
******
You would thinks so because once they got savvy, they got just about everything they wanted.
They had a lot of pull at TLC, being the show that really put them on the map.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I was lucky to grow up 5 minutes from Wegmans. Nothing has ever compared since!

Tucker's Mom said...

We're getting a Weggies nearby and it's taking forever to build! I can't wait. I'm lucky to have a wide array of markets, from bargain places, mainstream chains, ethnic places (amazing Asian) to Whole Paycheck to Trader Joes to ...
farmers markets and Costco.

seven said...

Tucker's Mom said... 111
Admin, the other attitude that Milo perpetuates is that somehow, TLC is responsible for taking care of Kate for the rest of her life.
_______________________________________

Yes! And that's not an exaggeration either. From reading the emails between Kate and TLC in Robert's book, even when the show was a very new hit Kate was difficult, obstinate and demanding. It really appeared that she never even entertained the fact that they would ever cancel the show.

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 2m
@SandieBelllz I asked...& she told me..."no residuals"...with a (: following her answer! Its a shame...would be nice supplemental income.

Where to begin.

During the last season of K+8, she received $250,000 an episode. Episodes which mostly consisted of Kate and the kids being filmed going on all expenses paid vacations and improvements to Kate's home. A lot of established TV actors don't get 250k an episode. Kate can boo hoo all she wants that she gets "no residuals :(" but it is very plausible that she waived the rights to residuals in order to get her huge per episode salary. Milo has no idea what Kate's dealings with TLC were. For several years, TLC treated Kate very generously and compensated her well. Does Milo actually think that TLC called all the shots, purposely ripped Kate off and denied Kate the assistance of an attorney? Really? This is classic Kate playing a victim and classic Milo probably knowing better, but stroking Kate's massive ego anyway in an attempt to get back to being the chosen one.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Or maybe she traded residuals for a higher salary or this or that perk as part of the negotiation. She is no innocent in this. She absolutely should have known residuals were an issue and fought for them. Never thought I'd say this but stop libeling TLC, Milo.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Ex nurse felonies are taken up by the prosecutor. Not between parties. So a lengthy dissertation on such things is a moot point since I'm sure the statute of limitations is long past. I don't care to research further because well, I don't care. But it does fascinate me how very difficult it seems to be for the sheeple to understand the difference between a criminal action, prosecuted by the authorities, and a civil matter.

Zoe said...

PatK said... 73
Am I the only one here who silently cheers each night when Milo proclaims it's "lights out time"?
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I bet she revels in the attention she gets on this blog. If it wasn't for the talk about her here, I wouldn't even be aware she was still around.

Tucker's Mom said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 127
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Thanks for addressing this. I get so confused when the subject of a lawsuit against Jon comes up as fact. Criminal, Civil, I don't know.
It's just bandied about as fact, which is why Matt Heckman spoke up, why again?
Yeah, makes my head hurt!

FYI said...

Maybe when TLC renegotiated the contract for Kate plus 8, they said they would pay residuals for DVD sales only and Kate hastily agreed thinking she'd be set.

It's very telling that TLC hasn't released Kate plus 8 on DVD, but instead has provided the show for online streaming, rather than DVD's.

TLC does what any business does-protect their interests first. Kate never thought the show would end, and apparently she and her attorney didn't have the foresight to think about the future after the show ended.

seven said...

Tucker's Mom said... 108
To the royalties point, Kate's fans have to recognize that certainly Jon deserves to get royalties too, doesn't he?
He headlined the TV series. He came up with the name!
They just want him cut off from everything.

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Also, it's amusing how when their Qween's very own horrible, damning words are exposed, they turn into mini-Columbos... armed with lengthy dissertations of the legalities of material obtained from curbside garbage. If Jon had a damning journal pulled from his garbage, they wouldn't give a hoot about how it was obtained. And they know it.

Millicent said...

readerlady said... 26

Millicent 3 -- Another possibility is that, now that the twins are older, the kids split up their visits, with the 6 going one weekend and the twins the next instead of all 8 at once.
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That thought crossed my mind too - but then I dismissed it because it's too rational and reasonable! Maybe every once in awhile, reason prevails even in Kate's brain.

I feel a little silly complaining about dealing with 100 degree temps, when I read about 114 at midnight elsewhere. For all of you who are truly sweltering, take care and I hope you can stay indoors out of the heat!

Has anyone here used a Chillow? If so, do they really work? I know someone going through chemo and I thought that might be a good gift to keep them comfortable at night.

PA Dutch Mom said...

I bet she revels in the attention she gets on this blog. If it wasn't for the talk about her here, I wouldn't even be aware she was still around.

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She says she doesn't read this cesspool of hate, so if that's true and unless someone tells her, she doesn't know.

One of these days she is going to really going to verschnupp herself. It's a good PA Dutch word that means letting something slip that wasn't meant to be said because it's gossip but you present it as the truth. The poop will really hit fan then. It will happen.

PA Dutch Mom said...

I haven't been following this Heckman-Sheeple exchange. Why is he involved in this?

PA Dutch Mom said...

Local checking in about Wegman. I never heard of it...no stores around here that I know of!

Millicent said...

Tucker's Mom said... 111
Admin, the other attitude that Milo perpetuates is that somehow, TLC is responsible for taking care of Kate for the rest of her life.
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If Milo was then being rational about that opinion, she should feel that all employers should retain all their employees for life. Or perhaps Milo would limit that to "single" moms who have lots of children. Guess what Milo - that's not how it works.

People are hired to do a job. If they do it well, usually (but not always) their employer keeps them on, gives them promotions and raises. Or that person decides to move on to another job, with greater benefits or opportunities for advancement. Or in today's marketplace, most of us are just glad to still have a job. I certainly don't believe my employer owes it to me to keep providing me with an income, no matter what.

I am not familiar with how reality tv stars are paid, but I didn't think they got residuals. I'm sure their agent could try to put that on the table as an option, but I imagine the response is "no, we don't pay residuals to any reality tv personality. It's a flat rate per episode."

Millicent said...

Ex Nurse said:
In the comments exchange, he speculated that the lawsuit against Jon and Hoffman may be as a felony offense for the criminal use of communications ( I am summarizing), which has a penalty up to $15000 and/or prison sentence up to 7 years (law reference: 18 PA Cons. Stat 7512).
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What happened there is Matt Heckman proved that he doesn't know what he's talking about. How embarrassing for him. As Admin pointed out, private individuals do not file lawsuits to prosecute for a criminal act. That is the job of the District Attorney, or a federal prosecutor.

Oh man, if I were Heckman, I'd try to delete that convo - lol!

Zoe said...

Tucker's Mom said... 124
We're getting a Weggies nearby and it's taking forever to build! I can't wait. I'm lucky to have a wide array of markets, from bargain places, mainstream chains, ethnic places (amazing Asian) to Whole Paycheck to Trader Joes to ...
farmers markets and Costco.
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"Whole Paycheck" -- LOL First I heard that one. That's perfect!

chefsummer #Leh said...

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 2m
@SandieBelllz I asked...& she told me..."no residuals"...with a (: following her answer! Its a shame...would be nice supplemental income.
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And yet she signed the contract any ways.

chefsummer #Leh said...

Here's how Kate can supplemental income.

Get a J-O-B.

rainbowsandunicorns said...

Sarah ‏@sarah2america 23m
I feel like a life goal of mine is to spend a day with @Kateplusmy8 and the 8 kids.
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The mindset of a sheeple. Lofty ambitions, setting such high goals in life. You just have to shake your head and hope that there aren't many like this.

chefsummer #Leh said...

Sandie ‏@SandieBelllz 7h
@MiloandJack Kate's a smart business woman and I don't think much gets by her.
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IS she really???

Sure doesn't seem like it.

Jane said...

Millicent said...


Has anyone here used a Chillow? If so, do they really work? I know someone going through chemo and I thought that might be a good gift to keep them comfortable at night.

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A friend of mine used a Chillow when recovering from a hysterectomy for ovarian cancer and then during chemo. Another friend is using one for menopause hot flashes. Both raved about it!

Jane said...

Re Wegmans. I used to visit one in Bethlehem, PA which isn't too far from Kate. There may be one closer, though.

By far, it's the best supermarket EVER! Oh, to have one in my area. Food shopping is low on my "things I love to do" list but I tell you ... if a Wegmans were here, I'd be shopping lots more.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Jane, our Wegmans was like the town gathering place. You could spend hours in there. People go for lunch, see their kids' teacher, the pastor, an old friend, some new ones. Do a little shopping. Pick up the dry cleaning, rent a movie. Coffee. Grab a magazine. Then get their Chinese for dinner to bring home. Teens hang out there and you know theyre safe. Wegmans is an experience, not grocery shopping.

Tucker's Mom said...

I know I'm being the article quote Queen today, but this one is apropos too. In yet another take on Deen's situation, ie: the N-word vs. a hostile work environment, rumors are already floating that Paula might be asked to be on DWTS.

"There are rumors that the producers of Dancing With The Stars might approach Deen to be on the show, which would make near-perfect sense for the program. Dancing With The Stars depends significantly on the existence of two classes of celebrities, one so minor and marginal that any increase in their profile, no matter how goofy, is worth it for the improvement in their name recognition, and the resulting chance of leveraging a competition show into more substantive work in entertainment."

This is where Kate blew a big chance that I'll bet many D-listers are begging for.

Article:
http://thinkprogress.org/alyssa/2013/07/02/2247381/why-people-care-more-about-paula-deens-language-than-how-she-treats-her-employees/?mobile=nc

Kelly H. said...

Admin said...

I was lucky to grow up 5 minutes from Wegmans. Nothing has ever compared since!
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I live one mile from mine. I refuse to move anywhere there is no Wegmans!

FYI said...

On one of her Menu Monday posts, Kate did mention Wegmans, when she gave a recipe for "personal pizzas". This was posted in October 2011. I guess she didn't invent her homemade pizza dough recipe yet.

Personal Pizzas

This is the best night of my kids’ lives when we have personal pizzas! I found thin flat breads called “Flatouts” at my local Wegmans and ever since, pizza night is a snap!

I use pizza screens (exactly that – round screens for baking pizzas) and 8 “Flatouts” fit nicely on them. You can use any type of pizza pan though, preferably one with the vent holes in the bottom though.


Jane said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 145
Jane, our Wegmans was like the town gathering place. You could spend hours in there. People go for lunch, see their kids' teacher, the pastor, an old friend, some new ones. Do a little shopping. Pick up the dry cleaning, rent a movie. Coffee. Grab a magazine. Then get their Chinese for dinner to bring home. Teens hang out there and you know theyre safe. Wegmans is an experience, not grocery shopping.
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Exactly! I had Chinese food there that rivaled anything I'd had in NYC's Chinatown. And the best chicken salad and cucumber on pumpernickel bread. I don't know what they put in that chicken salad but it rocked. Holiday items, books, fresh fish, an outstanding bakery, flowers and plants and, best of all, the workers were so very nice. Yes, it's an experience!

Kokomo, Cocktails And Dreams said...

Also, it's amusing how when their Qween's very own horrible, damning words are exposed, they turn into mini-Columbos... armed with lengthy dissertations of the legalities of material obtained from curbside garbage.

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What is really funny is that these are sheeple, who don't know their head from hole in the ground, and still have problems with you're, loose, and say "I seen." These are the ones who think that civil cases are criminal cases, and would have no idea how to read a deposition if their lives depended on it. Their reading comprehension skills are non-existent, but suddenly they think they are candidates for law school. Heck, the one sheep even has a PhD without the D. Imagine that!

Kelly H. said...

Wegmans' cold penne salad with chucks of fresh mozerella and grape tomatoes. Mmmmmm

Kokomo, Cocktails And Dreams said...

Kate must see the nastiness on her timeline the past couple of days. How could she NOT know what's going on? Yet, she does nothing about it. She doesn't tell both sides to stop, nor will she go private with Twitter. If I were Kate, I'd be embarrassed to be associated with anything like that. Why she won't put an end to all of it is the jackpot question. Maybe she just doesn't care anymore, and that speaks volumes about her.

Dmasy said...

I am in central Illinois. I regret to say that I had never heard of Wegman's until today, on this blog. I did google it.

Ingrid said...

Dmasy said... 153
I am in central Illinois. I regret to say that I had never heard of Wegman's until today, on this blog. I did google it.
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hi neighbor I am in Wis. I was disappointed . I thought for sure one of the bigger cities around here might have one but they are only out east.

Kelly H. said...

Wegmans is currently running a price freeze on their most popular items. I have been paying $1.99 for a lb. of grapes for about 9 months. Milk is also only $1.99/gallon. They rock.

PA Dutch Mom said...

Exactly! I had Chinese food there that rivaled anything I'd had in NYC's Chinatown. And the best chicken salad and cucumber on pumpernickel bread. I don't know what they put in that chicken salad but it rocked. Holiday items, books, fresh fish, an outstanding bakery, flowers and plants and, best of all, the workers were so very nice. Yes, it's an experience!

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It sounds much like the Stauffers of Kissel Hill that we have here. Their deli and homemade goods are to die for, and of course, the bakery is the first thing you see when you enter the store. I always stock up. The thing to remember is that you never go into the store on an empty stomach, or you'll kill your food budget in just one trip. They have a garden center with everything imaginable, and an "Under the Tent" event with take-out items, such as pulled pork sandwiches, oyster sandwiches and lobster feasts.

Gosh, I'm hungry. Time to get the grill going! Kum Esse!

seven said...

Kokomo, Cocktails And Dreams said... 150
Also, it's amusing how when their Qween's very own horrible, damning words are exposed, they turn into mini-Columbos... armed with lengthy dissertations of the legalities of material obtained from curbside garbage.

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What is really funny is that these are sheeple, who don't know their head from hole in the ground, and still have problems with you're, loose, and say "I seen." These are the ones who think that civil cases are criminal cases, and would have no idea how to read a deposition if their lives depended on it. Their reading comprehension skills are non-existent, but suddenly they think they are candidates for law school. Heck, the one sheep even has a PhD without the D. Imagine that!
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Ah yes.... the poor dears seem quite confused by the difference between civil suits and criminal charges. They seem to think that BV and his lawyers have the ability to get Jon and Robert thrown in the pokey.

Anything is certainly still possible, but I have to think that Robert and Jon would have been long charged by now if any evidence of an actual crime existed. And to take it a bit further, I don't think Kate really wants the unpleasantness of a civil suit. I'm not sure that what she wants to gain will equal the amount she stands to lose. I think at this point she's making the threat because she's desperately desperate to shut Robert up AND down.

Jane said...

Kelly H. said... 151
Wegmans' cold penne salad with chucks of fresh mozerella and grape tomatoes. Mmmmmm

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LOL we could go on and on about all the goodies at Wegmans!

Jane said...

PA Dutch Mom said... 156
Exactly! I had Chinese food there that rivaled anything I'd had in NYC's Chinatown. And the best chicken salad and cucumber on pumpernickel bread. I don't know what they put in that chicken salad but it rocked. Holiday items, books, fresh fish, an outstanding bakery, flowers and plants and, best of all, the workers were so very nice. Yes, it's an experience!

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It sounds much like the Stauffers of Kissel Hill that we have here. Their deli and homemade goods are to die for, and of course, the bakery is the first thing you see when you enter the store. I always stock up. The thing to remember is that you never go into the store on an empty stomach, or you'll kill your food budget in just one trip. They have a garden center with everything imaginable, and an "Under the Tent" event with take-out items, such as pulled pork sandwiches, oyster sandwiches and lobster feasts.

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So glad you shared this. I visit your area once or twice a year and will add this to my list of places to visit. Thanks!

NJGal51 said...

I don't want to hear any more from Kate and her minions about how hard it is to be a "single mom".

http://t.today.com/news/ariz-firefighters-widow-our-kids-will-remember-them-heroes-6C10512259

PA Dutch Mom said...

So glad you shared this. I visit your area once or twice a year and will add this to my list of places to visit. Thanks!

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There are a few in the area. You'll want to go to the one at 301 Rohrerstown Road in Lancaster. It's the newest one in Lancaster and the best.

PA Dutch Mom said...

And to take it a bit further, I don't think Kate really wants the unpleasantness of a civil suit.

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Didn't Glassman threaten to sue Kate? How is that suit progressing?

Layla said...

I recall reading in Hoffman's book--Kate said something like, "When I'm 80 years old (and probably still filming!)". Kate thought the show would last forever, so there would be no reason in her mind to worry about residuals. She thought she'd always have a current show. Kate does not plan for the future. She only cares about the present. She had the 8 to get rich and famous, but she never planned what she would do when fame and fortune passed her by and left her with 8 kids to support Same thing with divorcing Jon. She thought she'd always have lots of money and help, so what did she need him for?
I'm starting to wonder...a couple weeks ago someone tweeted her about her first and second mortgages. We know she borrowed $662,000 against the house in December 2011. We assumed she refinanced it, but what if she didn't? There was nothing printed about the original mortgage being paid off. Perhaps she took out the $662K out as a second mortgage, and that's what she's living off of. Maybe she really was broke, like she claimed. Maybe she didn't make as much as reported for the show (even Hoffman wrote that he didn't think she made that much). She could have borrowed the money thinking that it would tide them over until they got a new show. That would explain the estimated net worth of only $200K that has been reported, plus explain why she claims poverty while she still has the money to keep up her lifestyle. Just speculation, of course....

Friendly Warning said...

It distresses me to see many going to Heckman's website. I wouldn't go there, even with a proxy.

Ex Nurse said...

Maybe I have too much time on my hands...anyway, I was remembering the ROL headlines about Kate wanting to put Jon in jail. Many here pointed out that civil suits don't lead to prison sentences. I thought maybe she is trying to have charges brought against Jon using that statute--I think that was MH's point. The use of the word lawsuit confused the issue because that is a civil suit, but I don't remember if he said it or I mistakenly said it. Anyway, admin, if you don't want to bother, I will move on from this, too.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Again, the DA brings charges. Not Kate, not BV, not anyone else.

You can go down to the DA's office and talk until you're blue in the face about how you want charges filed, but if they think the case is crap they're not going to touch it with a 10 foot pole.

I checked, the statute of limitations in PA for criminal theft is 5 years. Aren't we almost at 5 years now? I thought this was 2009 or so. They've got a few months left to file and then it's over with. The statute of limitations for almost ALL civil actions is two years. It's too late. It's YEARS too late for Kate to do anything. She had ample opportunity to do something when it first happened. I don't have much sympathy for her dragging this all up now. She should have taken care of it THEN in 2009. It is beyond comprehension why all of a sudden this is all a major issue for her. I don't understand it. She needs to move on.

When I read the vast majority of all this blah blahing about "lawsuits", I often say what I think Mel said. These people have absolutely no idea what they're talking about. This is not meant as an "I dare you to file"--it's just a simple fact, 90% of what they say makes no sense to someone who has even a rudimentary understanding of our legal system. I don't want to say it's all talk, but I think most of it is.

KatesKrap said...

Admin you say the DA brings charges but I heard some fans got hater charged and I think it's true because they are evil enough to do that.

Layla said...

Kate will have a hard time proving criminal theft. The texts from Jon to Hailey said he wanted the hard drive. There were none saying he actually got it. After so many detailed texts, he would have texted her and said, "I got it"! Also, Kate would have noticed it missing. Is there a police report for a missing hard drive? Why not, if it was supposedly stolen? Hoffman said there is a police report from the night he and Jon moved things out of the house. Proves their side of the story--that he was supposed to be removing things that day. And still no report of a missing hard drive, even then. Besides, Jon and Kate were still married. Even if she had reported it missing and alleged he took it (she didn't), it was marital property. She is using threats of a lawsuit to bully and intimidate Jon and Hoffman. It doesn't look like it's working. What's she going to do, drag him to court and say, "He wanted the hard drive! He didn't take it, but he wanted it!" Not going to work.
There's no crime in wanting a hard drive. And no evidence that he ever actually took it.

Shelby said...

I bet she revels in the attention she gets on t his blog. If it wasn't for the talk about her here, I wouldn't even be aware she was still around.


I agree. Since this person and her tweets seem to bother everyone here, why post them? Why give her a forum for attention?

Melissa NV said...

I checked, the statute of limitations in PA for criminal theft is 5 years. Aren't we almost at 5 years now? I thought this was 2009 or so. They've got a few months left to file and then it's over with.

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I thought he moved out in June of 2009. When did this alleged "theft" happen? Spring/summer of 2009? If so, they would have another year to bring charges. Civil suit SOL is over, so how is Kate suing Jon and Robert? I'm really confused. ROL reported in April:

"It’s been four years since Kate Gosselin and Jon Gosselin filed for divorce but the real drama is just beginning.

Kate will file a lawsuit against her ex husband and Robert Hoffman, author of a self-published e-book that is largely based on material from her computer, RadarOnline.com is reporting exclusively.

And Kate confirmed her lawsuit, releasing this statement that was made available to Radar: “This lawsuit is absolutely moving forward.”

But if the SOL is two years, then how can she sue now? The article says "will file a lawsuit," meaning that it hadn't been filed (if you believe ROL). But only a DA can bring charges in a criminal case, so why would ROL report that Kate is filing the lawsuit?

Polly said...

I think a lot of people have a problem understanding this point:

"You can go down to the DA's office and talk until you're blue in the face about how you want charges filed, but if they think the case is crap they're not going to touch it with a 10 foot pole."

Thank you for posting that.

Melissa NV said...


I agree. Since this person and her tweets seem to bother everyone here, why post them? Why give her a forum for attention?

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I doubt that she reads here. She's too busy DMing her "sources" about restraining orders.

Melissa NV said...

Is Kate ever at fault for anything? It was the hater's fault that she was fired from CC; TLC's fault that she was fired from her show; the network's fault that the Paula pilot never saw the light of day; TLC's fault that Twist of Kate never happened; Tony's fault because he didn't know how to teach her on DWTS. Not sure who the sheeple blame for the first cookbook being abandoned, but it was probably Walmart's fault for dumping the kids' clothing line. And here we go again. I've never seen anything like this.

MeLyn ‏@BluMyst 5m
@Truth_Teller201 @MY_3BCOLLIES @Kateplusmy8 Ty. just more BS from haters. They actually thk getting sgl mom fired is ok #Unbelievable

Shelby said...

Bubba is being accused of saying to a Pest Control worker that he had a bunch of 'coons in the kitchen and he'd pay the worker $10/head to remove them. 

That's just one of the things Lisa Jackson is accusing him of.

I think this important stuff is being totally disregarded by the public. Paula is guilty of promoting (as in not acknowledging) this kind of behaviour.

Whether Lisa Jackson is telling the truth or not, well, we'll soon see.



ontinue.



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Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Shelby, it's like none of that even happened, all people seem to care about is Paula said the N word. While that's an important detail, that's really not the root of the problem here.

However, I see what Jimmy Carter is saying when he said she's been punished enough. At this point her lawsuit needs to play out and Paula is entitled to her day in court just like everyone else is.

Sleepless In Seattle said...

Is Kate ever at fault for anything? It was the hater's fault that she was fired from CC; TLC's fault that she was fired from her show; the network's fault that the Paula pilot never saw the light of day; TLC's fault that Twist of Kate never happened; Tony's fault because he didn't know how to teach her on DWTS. Not sure who the sheeple blame for the first cookbook being abandoned, but it was probably Walmart's fault for dumping the kids' clothing line. And here we go again. I've never seen anything like this.

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Whose fault was the ill-fated cruise?

fidosmommy said...

I thought statute of limitations begins when the situation is DISCOVERED, not when it is COMMITTED.

Again, has anyone heard of Alexa, the ranking site for web pages and blogs? I looked up Kate at the Stir and my interpretation is that Kate didn't bring much to the table, so to speak.

Sleepless In Seattle said...

MARIE ‏@MY_3BCOLLIES 1m

@BluMyst @Truth_Teller201 @Kateplusmy8 They're not saving kids in fact they're hurting kids. Just feeding their disgusting,hateful jealousy.

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I guess she missed msgoody's hateful rant the other night, huh?

I thought the non-fans were jealous of Milo. Now we're back to being jealous of Kate?

Unknown said...

Melissa NV said... 170
''...But if the SOL is two years, then how can she sue now? The article says "will file a lawsuit," meaning that it hadn't been filed (if you believe ROL). But only a DA can bring charges in a criminal case, so why would ROL report that Kate is filing the lawsuit?''
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I think that the answer is probably that ROL either doesn't care if their article is correct, or they are as confused as the sheeple and Matt Heckmann and KK about lawsuits. In other words, Admin has hit the nail on the head when she said:

''But it does fascinate me how very difficult it seems to be for the sheeple to understand the difference between a criminal action, prosecuted by the authorities, and a civil matter.''

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


I thought statute of limitations begins when the situation is DISCOVERED, not when it is COMMITTED.

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It depends. Sometimes it's reasonable discovery. That's really getting knee deep into the specific facts and PA caselaw which would require a research attorney to figure out. Any attorney worth their salt would want a $10,000 retainer upfront for something like this. The children's money well spent?

Another big problem she has is harm. So some discs that were hers were obtained, legally or not, and a book was published that was yanked a short time later. What is her harm? She is the one who goes on and on about how much work she has and how she wasn't fired from the Stir, she seems to be doing just fine. She has not set herself up for a successful lawsuit and I imagine that's exactly what her lawyers are telling her. This subject has been rehashed so many times it's getting a bit mind numbing. Call me when the lawsuit is actually filed.

Fungirl said...

Kate isn't paying for the lawsuit. Bully Guy is. Isn't that the point? I doubt Kate would sue if the bill were hers. Kate will file a civil suit. Bully Guy will pay the bill.

fidosmommy said...

Thanks, Admin. I didn't mean to add lidocaine to your head. ;-)

PatK said...

Sleepless In Seattle said... 176

Whose fault was the ill-fated cruise?

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And wasn't it funny how darn fast that was swept under the rug by the fans?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I wonder if people got nervous about all the vetting that was going on for the cruise.....wild guess why it fizzled out.....

Sometimes people just want to sign up for a vacation and not have their entire private lives probed and spied on government-style.

Nah, that can't have had anything to do with it.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I wanted to say something else about Wegmans. You can google online to read about why they are an excellent store and have been on the Forbes best companies to work for top 20 for over 15 years. But here's the thing with Wegmans. Unlike any other grocery store I've been to where they try to "trick" you by putting the staples you need at the back of the store so you have to walk by a lot of goodies and impulse buy, the Wegmans I've been in has sort of a staples nook in the front of the store. There you can get milk, juice, eggs and butter only walking in a couple yards and head straight to the checkout. They also usually invest in a lot of real estate so the aisles aren't crowded. The layout in general is different than any other store I've been in. Within inches of the door you are hitting all the great fruits and veggies, followed by the bread aisle, all at the very front of the store. The freezer aisle is also at the front of the store and very easy to get to. The junk and other things is buried toward the back. They also have candy-free check out aisles so if you have your toddler you don't have to battle them over chocolate while trying to check out.

Basically, they don't try to trick you into buying things. The layout just makes sense and doesn't insult the customer. There are reasons behind where everything is.

In short they rely on a customer trusting them they are there for the customer, and not on cheap tricks. They are a billion dollar company which apparently is very unusual for food service. They've earned it.

Millicent said...

Jane - thank you for the input about the Chillow - I am ordering one now for my friend.

Someone posted that they think the owner of BV might be paying an attorney to file some sort of civil suit on Kate's behalf. I doubt that - but if he wants to pay a $5,000 or $10,000 retainer to an attorney, then I say he should throw his money away if he wants to.

At this point, it's more like the story of the girl who cried wolf/lawsuit than anything else. I've heard lots about how a lawsuit is going to be filed, has been filed, charges are pending, subpoenas are flying .... but have seen nothing to prove this. No link to any court website showing the filing of any such lawsuit. I think it's all a bunch of hooey.

My guess is Kate did talk to an attorney or a few about filing a civil suit against Jon and/or Hoffman and was told it would be expensive, time-consuming, and the outcome was unpredictable. She was probably also told she'd have to pay a hefty retainer, pay all costs of suit up front, etc. She then probably thought BV would front the money and hire an attorney for her. Since they haven't done that, I presume the answer was "no."

I did get a chuckle out of Admin's description of someone going down to their D.A.'s office and pushing them to file criminal charges for something that happened in 2009. The financial crunch has hit everybody hard and that includes our court system and the D.A.'s office too. They need to focus on real cases that need prosecuting, not some domestic dispute over discs thrown into the garbage.

In short, Kate and her supporters are idiots.

PatK said...

Fungirl said... 181

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Why on earth would he be paying for her lawsuit against Jon? What does he have to gain from it?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

It has become boy who cried wolf. It's getting tiring. So when the wolf is actually here I'll start paying attention again! Until then I'm afraid the whole town could get eaten wolf has been cried so often!

I think people would be shocked at how often criminal charges are not filed, or are dropped. If you commit a crime unless there is a good witness or other hard evidence, even if it's obvious who did it, chances are you won't be prosecuted. Court systems are clogged and there is only time for cases that are important.

The bottom line is the DA wants to win cases. If a case is too weak charges won't be filed. And cases that look far more like private disputes and divorce squabbles aren't going to be touched. You here all the time about this or that person who was let out early or charges were dropped and then they commit a crime. On paper that sounds awful, but if the DA tried to put away and give serious time to every last single person who committed a crime, there would be a backlog of thousands of cases. They are very picky and chances are unless it's a three strikes cases or something very serious like murder, you'll only do a couple years max if you even get prosecuted in the first place.

This is a classic case of he said she said. One person says I found the info fair and square by the side of the road, another says it was stolen. He said she said cases simply don't get picked up by the DA. They don't. It's a coin toss how the jury will come out, no one is really in DANGER, if for the sake of argument they DID steal from Kate, they're not interested in stealing from anyone else, no one has a criminal history here. The DA wants to win cases and this is not a case they can count on winning. The DA likes hardened criminals or serious offenses they can convince a jury to put away and can tell the public they are tough on crime. Going after someone like Jon and Robert does nothing to further the agenda whatsoever.

Practically the only person who ever put her money where her mouth was and sued Kate was Sylvia LaFair. And I noticed she didn't make a big fanfare of it. She just quietly sued her. The only reason it became a public issue was because someone noticed the public record of it. People who really file lawsuits? Usually just DO IT without calling a press conference or threatening or all this drama.

maggie said...

They also have candy-free check out aisles so if you have your toddler you don't have to battle them over chocolate while trying to check out.


You shouldn't have to 'battle' with your kids over candy. I never did. Besides, that's a good teachable moment. Avoiding the problem only prolongs it. IMO, of course.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Kids are so bombarded with candy and other junk there are plenty of teachable moments to go around! This just cuts out one more distraction when you're trying to get in and out. Some kids whine for candy more than others. We've all seen it. You shouldn't have to battle kids over candy, but you also shouldn't have to have it thrown in their faces constantly all the time either.

Starz22 said...

Paula Deen made her rounds and SO many people believed in her and everything she said.What ever she cooked...20+ thousand went along with it. People insisted Paula knew best. No one gave a shit if she was right or wrong. This is were we should say Walk Not blindly into the light.

Vanessa said...

I recall reading in Hoffman's book--Kate said something like, "When I'm 80 years old (and probably still filming!)".
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And there you have it, the delusions of grandeur so imbedded in a narcissists brain.

Darn I wish I had downloaded that book before it was pulled!

fidosmommy said...

Admin, it's been a long time since I have thanked you for this fine blog. So, many thanks to you and your staff. Every time I come here I feel like I'm in someone's den listening to interesting people chat.

willowmom said...

I would like to echo fidosmommy's thanks. I don't post much, but am a Faithful Reader. I truly enjoy coming here, during a break from my workday and seeing what is going on. Thanks Admin, and everyone else!

TLC stinks said...

How strange that Matt Heckman should now pop up. First it was BV and Kate who mutually used ROL for publicity, then BV's publicity-hungry attorney is retained but is an odd choice to go after Jon and Robert, and now Heckman slithers out. Coincidence? I think not. Kate doesn't keep very nice company.

Dmasy said...

fideo and willow, count me in, too. I don't when I stopped coming here especially for Kate news and stayed because I enjoy the conversations of the ladies who meet here.

I have learned a great deal. Most recently that there is an amazing store named Wegman's.

A good day to everyone!

TLC stinks said...

BTW, I wonder if the point of the RWA subpoena was to find out if Dana Hoffman was one of the posters because that is what Matt Hoffman claims. All I can say is that for a small area such as Reading and surrounding towns, there is certainly been a bunch of bashing going on there for ages and the common thread are the Gosselins.

I also want to second that this is a great blog and I enjoy it very much. Happy July 4th to everyone.

Kokomo, Cocktails And Dreams said...

Kate isn't paying for the lawsuit. Bully Guy is. Isn't that the point? I doubt Kate would sue if the bill were hers. Kate will file a civil suit. Bully Guy will pay the bill.

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With what? Isn't this the guy whose house was allegedly foreclosed on twice? Why on earth would he pay attorney's fees to file a suit for a woman he doesn't even know? Is there any proof of this?

Fungirl said...

Admin you are right. Criminals go free all the time. When someone goes before a judge the prosecution thinks they are criminals. That won't happen with Robert Hoffman and Jon. The DA isn't going to file charges because Kate didn't report the crime! No report - no investigation - no charges - The End. They only need to worry about a civil suit. I think it might happen. Bully Guy shut RWA down. She got a subpoena so there is a lawsuit. IMO that's evidence Kate has Bully Guy footing her bills.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

"When I'm 80 years old (and probably still filming!)"

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I remember this now!

This says it all doesn't it?

A normal person would think well this will be a fun ride, this will be a special moment in time we will look back on fondly. But it's not going to last forever of course or even for very long at all. I mean does Kate WATCH T.V.? Does she see how SHORT most shows run? She was lucky to get five years out of it. Lucky. Most shows come and go after a few seasons.

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