Independence Day is a day to honor and celebrate the birth of America, and the American spirit. One such couple that exemplifies just that were Philadelphians Gilbert and Eleanor Kraus.
In 1939, Gilbert, a lawyer, and Eleanor, who stayed home with their two small children, were very concerned about the impending war in Europe. The Krauses, Jewish themselves, traveled to Nazi occupied Germany. There, they orchestrated the rescue of 50 Jewish children back to the United States. Many of the children are still here and alive today.
The Kraus' bravery has been called a "quiet act of decency and humanity on the eve of one of modern history’s darkest chapters." On this special day, we remember the Krauses as just but one example of the American spirit. 50 Children is a short documentary which tells their remarkable story. Now that's a Pennsylvania couple whose reality is worth watching.
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No one from Canada has ordered a Kate Can't Cookbook for 8 that's eight as in EIGHT KIDS days.
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Have you heard of the 10,000 hours theory from the book Outliers? I'm guessing that's the rule this person is referring to. Provides a good scientific basis behind it. Basically it explains the research that says to learn something really well you must devote at least 10,000 hours to the subject. Thus, if you don't start when you are young, it's hard to really find the time to learn something well as you get more and more busy. There is also a ton of research way beyond my scope about a child's brain at that age and in layman's terms, how open it is to learning music, language, sports, and the like. Much more than trying to teach say a 30 year old something new or even a 12 year old. They even say kids who are taught languages early don't have an accent, that's how receptive they are to the very finer points of learning something well. If a little kid can learn something so precise without so much as an accent imagine what else they are capable of. It's not pie in the sky stuff. The guy that wrote Outliners is just a journalist but he's based his theories on extensive and respected social science and psychological research. Of course there is plenty of naturally strong feelings the other way too, but the point being it's not like people who have put a lot of thought into enrolling their kids in things early are sitting around saying well I think kids should start early well just BECAUSE! It's based on science. However, the other argument is just let them be kids don't push them no matter how amazing their brain is for a brief moment, which is a fair point.
Stephanie sorry I accidentally deleted your comment but you said no child should be pushed.
If I had a nickel for every time I heard some of my music friends tell me I'm so glad my parents "pushed" me to stick with my instrument, I'd be rich. If I also had a nickel for every time I heard someone say I wish my parents hadn't let me quit FILL IN THE BLANK I'd be rich too!
If you never pushed kids, no kid would ever even do homework much less all the other things kids do they sometimes don't want to do but should do and are glad for it as they mature.
I'm not talking about tyranny. I'm talking about a kid who says mom I want to quit piano and a mom who says....no, honey, we're gonna stick this out for now.
Um, children have been studied by sociologists and psychologists since the beginning of the profession. So have adults. The methods used today are much less invasive and respectful, obviously. Language development can be studied very easily just by observing, without disrupting anything about the child's life. The whole history of studies is quite fascinating. A psychologist once put his baby in a glass box for quite awhile, can't remember the details, I saw it in the Museum of Psychology in LA. And if you know that museum, that's a whole other story.....lol. 20/20 often shows short little child psychology experiments, they're never invasive and it's important information for anyone raising a child. Things like ok you can have one cupcake now, or wait 5 minutes and have two.
Kate doesn't enroll her kids, apparently, in activities simply because it was not part of her own childhood experience. By her own admission (on tape) she never learned to swim, skate, cycle, ski, dance, camp or any of the things we all learned as kids. I think her own childhood was sadly lacking.
The one thing she did as a youngster was take care of chickens so that is what her kids also do.
She just won't invest time or money in those kids even though she has plenty of both.
She still sits there wearing her tarnished tiara slightly askew waiting for Hollywood to call, keeping her date book free just in case. She didn't invest in transforming her whole appearance to no avail. She will be a star, come hell or high water.
Sorry Admin...Kate Gosselin nor her kid's could ever be placed in the same headline of the Kraus's.This couple fought for the lives of children that NO one gave a shit about.No one cared if these kids lived or died. The Gosselin kid's lived and still live a life without wants. They have a bat shit crazy mother,who lives in a Mcmansion...but the kids are fed and clothed and go to school.They don't have the ideal life....their mom is a pos...but they are alive. The children the Kraus's fought for are lucky to even have survived. It wasn't fame that saved them...or tv appearances...or people making donations ...it was only do to a couple who had stopped at nothing to save them.
Their social skills are IMHO stunted since other than school, they only play with siblings or watch tv, often videos of themselves.
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I don't think Kendra Wilkinson's tears on CWS were fake. SHE saw first hand what those kids' lives are like, there is not time for "other" activities or socializing because they're lives at home is one big TO DO list. For God's sake, they can't even go play in their tree house, it was LOCKED!
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Uggh, thanks for that visual. LOL
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It kind of funny how Kate said it's would be to expansive for the six kids to do out side activities.
But she can fly first class to her activities when she feels like it.
She can get her hair and nails and feet done fly off to a town for a few day with Steve.
But she won't sign her young kids up for a fun activities?
IIRC --KK's major complaint about the field trip, aside from being bored, was that they had to wade through poison ivy. SURE they did! Absolutely the teachers deliberately led a pack of kindergartners through a large patch of poison ivy. They probably planned it in advance, so they could deal with itchy, squirmy, uncomfortable kids in the classroom for the next week or so. (snark) She probably saw one small PI plant off the path somewhere and decided she was hip deep in it.
Bird Dog 199 -- I think the most logical explanation to your question is that KK doesn't understand or recognize healthy human emotions.
It must be the mind of a narcissist. My parents grew up without the summer activities, and frankly any kids' activities, in the Great Depression. Raising kids in the 50's, we did all that they had not, and not on any expensive level either. I grew up thinking that that is what parents did for their children, we certainly did for ours. So if Kate was deprived (or had, according to Milo, great adversity), her children can also do without? Unless TLC or someone else is paying? She probably had great plans for Jon's father and his professional income, sad to say.
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IIRC --KK's major complaint about the field trip, aside from being bored, was that they had to wade through poison ivy. SURE they did!
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There may have been French-tipped hand flapping at the sight of anything poison ivyish (which is to say, green) because remember back then, Kate wore those fuggly Gladiator sandals all the time.
To the reason why it's good to start kids early in their physical and intellectual interests/hobbies/sports is that their brains are still mapping and developing synaptic connections, and while our brains are neuroplastic throughout life, it's more so as the brain is developing.
Harder to make those synaptic connections later when it comes to motor skills involved in sports, and in other areas of the brain, such as those involved in language development.
Again, with preemies, I'd be pushing to maximize the learning as much as possible.
Seriously Kate! There comes a time when you have to tell your fans that enough is enough.
@msgoody2shoes21: Looks like 2 members of Kate's panty sniffin' brigade are out on their morning troll @Kateplusmy8 @LameHag
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@bioghawg @stashcache @Kateplusmy8 @LameHag They're fake a** child advocates.
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And what are you?
I just read on ROL that E. Hasslebeck is leaving the View for a job with Fox News. Well here's another chance for Kate to join The View. Wonder if she has a chance?
Kate doesn't enroll her kids, apparently, in activities simply because it was not part of her own childhood experience. By her own admission (on tape) she never learned to swim, skate, cycle, ski, dance, camp or any of the things we all learned as kids. I think her own childhood was sadly lacking.
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But would that really hold true? If she didn't have those things growing up, you would think that those were the things that she wants her kids to have...just to show everyone how she rose above her own childhood deprivations. She said she wanted her kids to travel because she never had that experience as a child. If she never had those things as a child, it would seem that she would cram as many activities into their lives as possible.
#13 Gosh. Some people surely are crude, aren't they. Wonder if the crude language is a mask for lack of intelligent reasoning abilities. Or something....
Seriously Kate! There comes a time when you have to tell your fans that enough is enough.
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She's let it go on much too long. mcgoody is sending these tweets to Kate. Any decent person would be so disgusted with this language and accusations that she'd tell both sides to stop. What's wrong with Kate?
#DWTS_Participan #Pretty_Bird_0 @LameHag @Kateplusmy8 Naw witches. You do a good job at that. #PantySniffingBrigade #SecretPedoSociety
#13 Gosh. Some people surely are crude, aren't they. Wonder if the crude language is a mask for lack of intelligent reasoning abilities. Or something....
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I wonder if they are like that in "real life." Do they use such vile language if they have a problem with a bill? If they don't like something they ordered in a restaurant, do they go off on an abusive tirade, throwing accusations at the server? Or is this what they do when they can hide behind the internet...just really let loose and not care?
They don't have to mask their lack of intelligent reasoning ability. I think that's pretty evident even without the crude language.
MsGoody2Shoes21 @msgoody2shoes21 2h
#Bluehawaii46 @Kateplusmy8 Bite me
Apparently the narcissist has trouble recognizing the difference between positive and negative attention, all is fine as long as they are talking about ME ! Unless secrets are revealed and then we lawyer up or pretend we are being bullied.
Bird Dog said: But why doesn't she get that she can get things out of faking feelings?
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Bird Dog, you make an excellent point! The only explanation I can think of is that she's unable to fake feelings if she's never felt them genuinely. I don't know.
My mother-in-law is similar to Kate, but she's not as bad. But her excuse for saying what she's thinking regardless of how offensive it is is that she just can't be fake. She must be honest! Well, you can imagine how that approach doesn't win her many friends. One example: Four years ago we showed her around our new house that was being built. She walked through with her arms folded across her chest the entire time, and her comment at the end was "Sure is one big house." (It's about 2400 sqf, just like our last house.) Compare that to when MY mom took the tour - she was all "I'm so happy for you! It's lovely! How are you going to decorate?" Etc. And my MIL wonders why we're not close. Eye roll!
Kate doesn't enroll the tups in activities because there is only one activity she wants them dto do--filming. SHe's waiting for the call from Hollywood, and wants to make sure that they have plenty of free time for work. She lets the twins do extracurricular activities, but it's not the twins who are noteworthy. The tups are the unusual ones, by virtue of their HOM birth, and Kate is going to milk that for every cent she can get. Too bad nobody seems interested any longer. The kids have to sit at home with their mother, waiting for that phone call, instead of enjoying their childhoods. I feel sorry for them. They didn't ask to be engneered as a six-pack.
Kate didn't have fame & fortune growing up, so she really wants her kids to have that. Forget summer camp & sleepovers! She's chasing a much higher dream.
20/20 often shows short little child psychology experiments, they're never invasive and it's important information for anyone raising a child. Things like ok you can have one cupcake now, or wait 5 minutes and have two.
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The news program that followed the Dilley sextuplets nearly every year for the first few years did an experiment like that with them. They used m&ms, the Dilley's were 3 years-old and every child, to the shock of the doctors and even their parents, had to self control and EQ/IQ to wait the 2 minutes and get double the candy.
Sleepless: I agree with what you are saying, but we also had friends, who we hung out with(back in those days). My best friend lived down the block, we did everything from riding bikes to hiking to the local park pool and all kinds of other stuff. Admin, even posted that. Kate has those kids isolated, friends are far away, they only have their brothers & sisters to play with. Kate has taken the concept of your sibs are your best friends and playmates. After all, there are 8, count them 8 of you. I don't know about anyone else, but I would be sick of my sibs after a while. And yes, there are people who if they, were not in doings as kids, a lot would put their kids in all kinds of activities, but some who never were in anything, when they grew up still did not put there kids in anything either. Why? who knows: lazy, not interested, no money(but funny how theses parent can cough up money to get a tans, nails, hair, spa, new phones, clothes, go on vacations, go out partying with their friends, but when it comes to their kids, buy a pool or watch TV, computer games. Kates, kids live far from the kids in school, they go to another town for school, there is no kids down the block. For Kate it is a chore to take them anywhere. Those kids will get bored and start fighting with each other. Kate did 2 blogs and twitter, twitter and one blog, on how happy the kids will be out of school and sunshine and lazy summer days by the pool, then next blog, god I need a vacation away from my kids, I need me time! After only a week, the kids were out of school. Bored much Kate. It's sad.
Re: cookbook. When stores such as Waldenbooks, Target, Hastings, Book fair, etc. order books for their shelves, they won't be ordering through Amazon or Barnes and Noble. They will order directly from the publisher, right? So while we are seeing the preorder of a couple hundred books, the publisher may be seeing a whole lot more. Not that the bookstores will actually sell the ones they preorder, of course.
I bet why Kate is so quiet, lately, she is eyeing(probably bugging the heck out of ABC-TV network or the View and I'm sure her luny fans have been bomb-barting them as well), that co-host jobs at the View, now that Elizabeth has left, Joy is leaving and Barbra is also leaving. 3 co-hosting jobs, available. Up for grabs. Funny, how the View has not had her on, but Brook Shields has been on a lot. The Talk has been having Marie Osmond on a lot. just sayin.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 3m
@SandieBelllz @Kateplusmy8 Exactly! They throw these #WildUntruthful allegations out there & just hope it sticks! So disrespectful 2Kate!
LOL!! Wasn't it Milo who said that there was a restraining order against Jon and then backpedaled when asked for proof? Doesn't she say that the twins don't want anything to do with Jon? Doesn't she say that the journals were altered? Talk about wild allegations!
Isn't her buddy Goody the one who trashes Jon every chance she gets, accusing him of being a thief and that Robert hit on Kate and was rejected?
Such hypocrisy!
Such hypocrisy!
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Hypocrisy indeed. It's quite amusing, especially the following tweet, considering that Milo always claims she KNOWS Kate, knows what she's thinking, how she would react, etc. etc. ad nauseam.
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@SandieBelllz @MiloandJack @Kateplusmy8 Great minds, Sandie! They think they have magic telescopes into Kate's mind, house & checkbook.
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Kate doesn't enroll the tups in activities because there is only one activity she wants them dto do--filming
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Right.
I bet she someone said let's film the kids doing baseball gymnastics, scouts and kid fun activities,
She would enroll them faster then she could blink.
This is hysterically funny! These sheep are a few fries short of a Happy Meal:
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@Kateplusmy8 So #Gators...just because U say it...think it N ur negative minds doesn't make it so! Kate's not obligated 2tell U anything!
Milo constantly pesters Kate for information about everything in her life...where she is, what's for dinner, what time the kids went to bed...hence the name Gladys Kravitz! If Kate's not obligated to tell anything, then why does she bombard her with tweets expecting her to answer? Too funny! Or maybe she thinks that she, as the Head Sheeple, is the only one who has the right to know.
The book Outliers also talked about the results of a study done on members of national sports team. There was a definitive percentage of professional athletes that we're born in the fall months. The conclusions of the study was that being the oldest on a team has a huge advantage during the early years, because there is a significant developmental difference in jus a few months. This is a missed opportunity for the kids to shine, learn to collaborate And develop self-esteem by individual achievement.
The tups are not 4, 5 or 6--they are 9! As admin pointed out, social groups are formed around activities in the modern world. They will miss out on so many other social activities because of Kate's selfishness and laziness. Sports are not the only activities, but it is the truth that, especially for boys, it is a defining activity. Again, they will be left out of other social activities because they are so isolated. I have never heard about any neighborhood children that they play with--even when they lived in a development with fairly close neighbors.
As I said before, naturally talented kids will always be able to walk on a team and take a major position. But, MOST kids on varsity high school teams played for many year and participated in club teams, which is a huge advantage. My daughters played the equivalent of a half-season of Little League or school season in a single weekend, almost every weekend of the summer, for 7 years before starting high school. And, who did they play against on varsity? The same kids they competed against for years. They knew the strengths and weaknesses of their opponents--a huge advantage. I didn't have sports available to me growing up in Chicago--I did the usual ballet, tap and toe dancing. I enjoyed supporting my daughters for all those years, and they have grown into confident, assertive young women. In addition to the athletic benefits, the incidence of alcohol and drug abuse, as well as teenage pregnancy is significantly lower for girls who play team sports.
This is hysterically funny! These sheep are a few fries short of a Happy Meal:
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@Kateplusmy8 So #Gators...just because U say it...think it N ur negative minds doesn't make it so! Kate's not obligated 2tell U anything!
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Carrie Ann said that Kate has no self-awareness. It's apparent that Milo doesn't either. What's really scary is that she can't see that what she accuses the "haters" of doing fits her own profile. Everything she has been tweeting about the non-fans is exactly what she does. She just can't see it.
Kate would have a hard time controlling things if all the kids were in multiple different activities. She would insist on CA's on many many more people. She would not always be there to stop someone from taking pictures that could be sold and she wouldn't get the money. Some would be asking the kids questions that are too personal. Even if they were at camp there is a chance that a 'tent mate' would ask something innocently and then tell their parent later who could spread it around.
I think it is all about control and somewhat privacy of the kids but I think she is more concerned about her own life/privacy so no one knows what really goes on behind the gate.
The tups are not 4, 5 or 6--they are 9! As admin pointed out, social groups are formed around activities in the modern world. They will miss out on so many other social activities because of Kate's selfishness and laziness. Sports are not the only activities, but it is the truth that, especially for boys, it is a defining activity. Again, they will be left out of other social activities because they are so isolated. I have never heard about any neighborhood children that they play with--even when they lived in a development with fairly close neighbors.
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How can you say that they are isolated when they are with their peers nine months out of the year, eight hours a day and five days a week? Just because they may not play with neighborhood kids does not mean that those children never see another child from June through August. It's quite possible that they do, in fact, have other kids over to swim, go to birthday parties, or to friends' houses. I just don't know where this total isolation concept is coming from...just because Kate doesn't tweet that the kids go to friends' homes in the summer?
When they are in school they interact with other kids, other parents, teachers. It just irks me to read some of the comments implying that these children are social outcasts and socially stunted because they never developed relationships. Their friendships at school with other kids and how much time is spent with them isn't known to the public, nor should it be.
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Kate Gosselin chooses to be as public as possible. When she isolates her children from society of course it concerns caring people
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Isolates them from society? How can these non-fans type this with a straight face? Do they think that all eight children sit in one room in school with a computer as a teacher, eat their lunches only with each other, never join other kids on the playground, and then are picked up after class by a hired driver who is under orders not to say a word or interact with them?
My daughters played the equivalent of a half-season of Little League or school season in a single weekend, almost every weekend of the summer, for 7 years before starting high school.
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To each her own. I would rather my children be more well-rounded than to focus exclusively on a single sport to such a degree that they are playing the equivalent of a school season every weekend all summer for 7 years before high school. I am not a fan of the overly structured childhoods that suburbia seems to thrive on these days.
Just wondering why you would have "heard of" neighborhood children that the Gosselins played with. Do you truly believe you know every aspect of their lives because they appeared on a scripted reality show for a few years?
The Gosselin children probably do have friends they see during the summer. But if their friends come over for the day, they will make "messes", and in some way irritate Kate. Also, parents will have to drive the kids to the Gosselin house, which means Kate has to entertain adult guests, which I'm not sure she is comfortable with. Having more kids underfoot PLUS parents might just spell over-stress for Kate. Far better to drop the kids off at friends' homes, go get a manicure and shop at Target and then swing back to pick them all up. Less stress, more "me time", more accomplished in her busy, busy day.
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@Kateplusmy8 (cont)....half Asian (Samoan), tall, loves kids & has plenty money. He would be perfect for you Kate.
Oh! DID I SAY FINE? LOL
I have a different perspective on the sports issue I guess. I coached girls basketball and volleyball in a small school, grades 5th through 9th. Being a small school, 5th grade is the grade in which the children started particpating in sports. It is a poor area so the parents really cannot afford to put their kids in any community programs that would cost money. Based on my experience, kids starting sports at the 5th grade level is just fine. They are not being left behind. And you have to remember that all kids develop at different rates. You might have someone who really excels at their sport in 5th grade and then have kids play all thru to the 9th grade and then excel and pass those children who excelled earlier. There is still hope for the Gosselin children to get into organized sports and do just fine. I think the whole sports thing is being blown out of proportion. And remember, it doesn't have to be sports. It can be any social group. Not every child is athletic. They can join chess club, math clubs, they can excel in music. There are endless possibilities.
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Just down the road said...
It just irks me to read some of the comments implying that these children are social outcasts and socially stunted because they never developed relationships.
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Since this response was to my post, I want to point out that I didn't say they were stunted or outcasts or that they never developed relationships. Especially since their early years were spent with all those great crew daddies. The school draws from large distances, including a rural are, so, yes--they are isolated. And, we have seen with our own eyes how the kids spend their free time. Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't Kate write her house manual for CWS? Days off from school are spent doing additional chores--there was a list of them hanging next to the chore list. They spend several hours just to commute to school (10 minutes from home to bus, plus additional 45 minutes ride--X2), and then come home to Alcatraz and work like they are a depression era family who have to earn a living for their family's survival. Oh, wait--they already did that. I think that I, like many others here, think it would be nice for those kids to do some normal activities.
So, yes--they are isolated and missing out on learning skills and the opportunity to meet other kids who live nearby. This is, of course, all speculation, and my opinion.
@MiloandJack: @Kateplusmy8 Ur family has clearly wanted 2remain private & activities, contact with relatives is ur private business. #WeNeedToRespectThat
Says the woman who wants to know every move Kate makes, heat she's cooking for dinner, etc. Yes Milo, #weneedtorespectthat
I thought Sandie was halfway sensible (for a Kate fan) but she thinks if anyone sees Kate out and about and tweets about it they're stalking her:
Sandie @SandieBelllz 59m
@stashcache @MiloandJack @Kateplusmy8 And the argument that "people" see her around town is BS. If so, that's stalking. Period.
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OMG, Sandie. It's "stalking" to see your neighbors around town? WTH?? What boat did you arrive on?? @kateplusmy8
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@Allisstair @Kateplusmy8 and they just so happen to be on Twitter. BS
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Good Lord Sandie. Twitter is NOT the only mode of communication. Neighbors TALK to ppl who DO happen to be on twitter. Ye gods. @kateplusmy8
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@Allisstair @Kateplusmy8 Highly unlikely. IMO
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Sandie don't u know that many on twitter actually live in K8's neighborhood? People KNOW what their neighbors r doing. Period. @kateplusmy8
Sandie @SandieBelllz 8m
@Allisstair Really? You know for sure how? Because they say so? Lol I have a bridge to sell. :)
The kids' school has various summer camps going on right now. There's a movie producing class (which Mady would love), and a Lego camp coming up (which the boys would love). Are the kids enrolled? I have no idea (and I wouldn't say if I did) but they very well could be. Kate isn't tweeting much, and if she doesn't want to make this public, then we can't assume that they are or they aren't involved in any kind of summer activities.
I seriously doubt, though, since she's been saying that she's sleeping late, that she would get up early for a 45-minute drive for a three-hour summer camp every day for two weeks...but who knows? Maybe she has someone else driving them, or the girls are going with friends.
Just, I think the issue is that Kate seems to have no problem sharing about the twins' social lives and friendships and activities. Yet when it comes to the sextuplets all anyone hears is the sound of crickets chirping.
I agree that we really shouldn't know what any of the kids are doing. I also agree that they do see other kids and adults during the school year, so they are not socially isolated in that sense.
But I can tell you, from experience, that kids need to be able to interact with peers their age, not just at school. I have a friend whose step children were raised primarily by their grandparents (mom, btw, is a narcissist as well though not to the degree Kate is). Grandma picked them up at school and they went home, did homework and watched tv until they were picked up around 6/6:30 pm. My friend was amazed that these kids didn't have any friends. They had school friends that would come to parties etc. but they did not have any close friends. Now, playing with other kids is great but when you reach 9-10-11 years old, you need more than a momentary physical playmate. These are the ages when you start to discover more about interpersonal relationships. You learn about being more other centered and helping your friends grow and succeed as well.
My friend had to teach her step kids how to make and keep friends. They didn't have their first best friend over for a play date until 5th grade.
Again, I'm not saying the sextuplets don't have friends. But the way Kate makes it appear, it seems like they don't outside of the school day, or at least not much - I think she has tweeted before that the littles are at a playdate but I can count the times on one hand.
What I see happening is that Kate seems stuck in her glory days at TLC and promotes the sextuplets as being younger than they are for myriad reasons.
The three survivors from Cleveland were on inside edition yesterday and today.
They are beautiful well spoken strong woman. My god bless them and heal them.
I hate auto correct. How does what become heat?
I thought Sandie was halfway sensible (for a Kate fan) but she thinks if anyone sees Kate out and about and tweets about it they're stalking her:
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LOL, Tweet! I was just about to say the very same thing! I read that tweet twice just to make sure I didn't misunderstand it!
Oh, wait--they already did that. I think that I, like many others here, think it would be nice for those kids to do some normal activities.
So, yes--they are isolated and missing out on learning skills and the opportunity to meet other kids who live nearby. This is, of course, all speculation, and my opinion.
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How does anyone here know if the kids aren't involved in after-school activities with their classmates, taking the late bus home, or car-pooling with other parents? They may be isolated geographically (as in a rural area) but that doesn't mean that they live in a vacuum. Why are they missing out if they don't know neighbors...as long as they have friends at school and possibly from church? How is not having a neighbor kid to play with hurting their socializing and learning experiences?
When I was Mady and Cara's age, I spent much of the summer at the beach house. There were no neighborhood kids and there were no scheduled activities. I didn't feel socially isolated -- there were days on the beach, the boardwalk, riding bikes with my siblings, rainy days spent reading at the library. I don't consider myself having been deprived of social experiences because there were no neighborhood kids to hang out with.
I think what told me truth the most about the Gosselin kids' current lives, was what the poster above said about Kendra's tears.
Those were real tears. She was heart-broken for those kids.
Maybe what life was like then was just for the show, just for Kate to show what an "organized" mom she is, and their lives really aren't like that.
But based on Kendra's reaction, it didnt seem like it. It seemed like it was all too real.
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To each her own. I would rather my children be more well-rounded than to focus exclusively on a single sport to such a degree that they are playing the equivalent of a school season every weekend all summer for 7 years before high school. I am not a fan of the overly structured childhoods that suburbia seems to thrive on these days.
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I guess I didn't clarify that my daughters' only sport was softball, which was seasonal. They played Little League games in the spring and the club team was their summer activity--Hardly 'over scheduled'. They also participated in scouts and attended Hebrew/Sunday school and had many neighborhood friends. All of their activities were their choice, and there was no pressure on them at all. Their father was their coach, so it was a bond he had with them. And, it was social for me as well, because all of the parents attended to support their kids.
Parent, Kate's own manuel and lists. That's how.
Vanessa said... 7
Their social skills are IMHO stunted since other than school, they only play with siblings or watch tv, often videos of themselves.
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I don't think Kendra Wilkinson's tears on CWS were fake. SHE saw first hand what those kids' lives are like, there is not time for "other" activities or socializing because they're lives at home is one big TO DO list. For God's sake, they can't even go play in their tree house, it was LOCKED!
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The boys have probably by now given up on trying to convince Mommy to give them the keys. Out of the 6 there must be 1 child brave enough to try and circumvent the rules and locks. Unless Kate keeps them inside or within sight at all times.
Who can't see Kate refusing to let 1 of the boys play in a game or attend an important scout meeting as punishment for something? I can also see her buying the cheapest equipment and badly fitting uniform. Cleats too big to run properly in. Demanding they throw out any trophy or medal because it is junk that clutters things up.
MsGoody2Shoes21 MsGoody2Shoes21 @msgoody2shoes21 40m
@ANONY_MOUSECAT @my_3bcollies @stashcache @lamehag @kateplusmy8 Honestly, calling Kate haters panty sniffers and haters belonging (cont)
MsGoody2Shoes21 @msgoody2shoes21 38m
@ANONY_MOUSECAT @my_3bcollies @stashcache @lamehag @kateplusmy8 (cont)... belonging to a secret paedophile ring is not that disgusting to me
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I guess that tweet says just about everything one needs to know about that sheeple.
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MsGoody2Shoes21 MsGoody2Shoes21 @msgoody2shoes21 40m
@ANONY_MOUSECAT @my_3bcollies @stashcache @lamehag @kateplusmy8 Honestly, calling Kate haters panty sniffers and haters belonging (cont)
MsGoody2Shoes21 @msgoody2shoes21 38m
@ANONY_MOUSECAT @my_3bcollies @stashcache @lamehag @kateplusmy8 (cont)... belonging to a secret paedophile ring is not that disgusting to me
I guess that tweet says just about everything one needs to know about that sheeple.
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Apparently Kate doesn't find those remarks disgusting, either, because she allows it to continue.
I remember the poor attendance at the tups' birthday parties a year ago- wasn't it one guest for the three boys and maybe three, for all three girls? Kate is always saying they are each other's best friends, same with the twins.( plus her)
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 49
Parent, Kate's own manuel and lists. That's how.
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That was for one week and it was for filming purposes. You (the generic you) don't know what they do the rest of the school year. You don't know that they don't take the late bus home. You don't know if they have planned events after school. I think it's good that this isn't put out there for the public to dissect, criticize, applaud, or whatever.
I guess I'm in the minority when I say that more may go on with their activities than is publicized, so I'll just mute it now! ;)
What's Milo been up to? LOL!!
Parent, but people can only base it on what we do know. I don't think anyone disagrees with you that we can't know for sure. It's sort of one of those IF this is true, then this is what I think. The tweets, the Manuel, the blogs all point to kids with limited interactions. Maybe it's all a lie who knows.
The Manuel is pretty clear IMO this is a "typical" day for the family. Not just, this one special week we do things like this. Those kids were like clockwork, as if they have been operating on this sad schedule for years. Pretty impressive acting if we are to believe your scenario that it was all just for the cameras and in fact they have a wonderfully full life outside of school and choring. Kendra's tears, I also believe, were real.
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Apparently Kate doesn't find those remarks disgusting, either, because she allows it to continue
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Not only does she allow it to continue, she tweets with both Goody and Ziggy. Kate's very much aware of what's being said on her twitter timeline and obviously condones it.
She's mentioned Cara and Mady being around when she's tweeting. 12 year olds are very aware of twitter, many kids that age send tweets to Kate and I think it's safe to assume that C & M know how to access her timeline. Imagine what they must feel when they read these horrible tweets about both parents.
Didn't even Liz make some reference to the kids being able to finally let their hair down at her place? I can't remember the exact words. It struck me as heartbreaking she would observe that, and very telling. Wish I could remember what I'm thinking of. I can't find the manual online anymore but it was so sad to read it and it definitely was written as if this is how the family always is.
This is old news but what a pig Nigella's husband is for saying she should have made a public comment on the incident and told the world he is not abusive. I'm sorry, wasn't she the one getting choked? Why should she defend him??? He is an absolute pig.
Formerly Duped said... 57
I remember the poor attendance at the tups' birthday parties a year ago- wasn't it one guest for the three boys and maybe three, for all three girls? Kate is always saying they are each other's best friends, same with the twins.( plus her)
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I remember their birthday party under the shelter - tubs and tubs of ice cream, singing HB to each child individually, etc. I was so sad to see so few guests there. Unless they did not want to be on camera and stood out of range, it didn't look well attended at all.
Growing up I had neighborhood friends, school friends who were friends, not just classmates, swim team friends, Sunday School friends, Girl Scout friends, you get the picture. Few of them were overlapping, e.g. the Girl Scout friends didn't necessarily go to my school and were not on my swim team. I had an almost unique group of friends whatever I was doing. And then there were family members I saw every day, too.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 61
This is like with Kate's fans.
They say Jon should stand up for Kate and tell her bullies and haters to stop and leave her alone.
But they can say anything about Jon and expect Kate to say nothing and do nothing.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 62
This is old news but what a pig Nigella's husband is for saying she should have made a public comment on the incident and told the world he is not abusive. I'm sorry, wasn't she the one getting choked? Why should she defend him??? He is an absolute pig.
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He's a classic abuser, and a cretinous pig from hell.
She can do SO, SO, SO much better- and when she's good and ready, she will.
They say Jon should stand up for Kate and tell her bullies and haters to stop and leave her alone.
But they can say anything about Jon and expect Kate to say nothing and do nothing.
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They are fascinating studies of personality disorders and the proverbial case of the pot meeting the kettle, especially this one from a person who trashes Jon with hatred and wants Kate to put a nail in his coffin:
msgoody2shoes21
Haters! Please don't include me in your hateful tweets. Especially when you're trying to destroy another person w/ your lunacy.
Is Kate disabled?
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 1m
@Kateplusmy8 The struggles ur N 2day R strengthening U 4tomorrow. Don't ever give up! Handle stress like walking...one step at a time! :)
Who can't see Kate refusing to let 1 of the boys play in a game or attend an important scout meeting as punishment for something?
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Uh, Kate threatened her children that she would without their food if they dare get her wet on their rafting trip.
I was a little shit at times, but I can not fathom my mother sending me to bed hungry because I pissed her off.
Sick.
And yeah, I think Kate was dead serious.
I would love to meet Milo and sit down with her for an interview. It would be interesting to study her from the sociological conflict theory approach...how the elite influences the weak and insecure in society.
Her "sociological imagination" is fascinating -- how certain social forces (and people) have shaped her personal life and the way in which it has affected others around her (LOM, her children, extended family and friends), and how it has provided the framework for her life. She's classic textbook material.
No, I have no interest in stalking her or the fans, but I do find the sheeple to be wonderful subjects for sociological study.
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Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 61
This is like with Kate's fans.
They say Jon should stand up for Kate and tell her bullies and haters to stop and leave her alone.
But they can say anything about Jon and expect Kate to say nothing and do nothing.
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Oh, I'm 100% in support of this! 1000% even.
This is what Jon should do--first don very heavy eyeliner, then, get under a sheet and shine a flashlight in his face. When he's good and worked up, he should scream (fists waving, mouth drawn back like the Joker's rictus):
**SHE'S A HUMAN!!!!!!!** LEAVER HER ALONE!!!!!!**PLEASE!!!!**RIGHT NOW!!!**ANYONE WHO HAS A PROBLEM WITH HER, YOU DEAL WITH ME!!!**
{sob effeminately and ersatz uncontrollably, yet somehow, not be able to find the tears he keeps trying to wipe away}
Then, after he's expressed every bit of estrogen his body can muster, he whimpers,
**leave her alone**
Hey, it worked for Britney...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHmvkRoEowc
Sherry Baby said... 66
Goody is the kettle lol she goes on and on about Jon in such a nasty ways.
But God forbid someone tweets about negative about Kate she'll call hater or bully or something nasty.
Tucker's Mom said... 70
LOL here's a leave Kate Gosselin alone vid.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJQcKvJtV2Q
They say Jon should stand up for Kate and tell her bullies and haters to stop and leave her alone.
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How they come up with this stuff just makes you wonder about what goes through their heads. I'd love to study them, but this one appears to be too strange, even for me!
MsGoody2Shoes21 @msgoody2shoes21 37m
"Words can be very powerful. Why not use them to lift someone up today rather than knock them down."
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Haters! Please don't include me in your hateful tweets. Especially when you're trying to destroy another person w/ your lunacy.
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THIS from the person who recently declared that hater's should have their lives DISMANTLED for not supporting Kate?
Wow.
I think they don't realize they make Kate look weak to not be able to withstand negative feedback. Gweneth Paltrow has lots of hate and powers right through it. She doesn't spend a moment worrying about it or asking her fans to defend her. This results in her looking strong and resilient. She comes out on top.
As far as Nigella goes I think it would be fine for her to say I'd appreciate privacy during this time and I'd appreciate if my children's father and stepfather is not trashed in the media, they love him.
HOWEVER, he's not asking Nigella to ask people not to trash him or to leave the family be. He is asking her to make a statement that he is NOT an abuser. That is a whole other matter. And ludicrous to boot, since we all have eyes and saw what he did to her.
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"Words can be very powerful. Why not use them to lift someone up today rather than knock them down." via Marie @BHappyLoveLaugh @Kateplusmy8
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She's the one to talk.
Ah, the needy sheeple are out tonight!
Pun @KarmanPun
@Kateplusmy8 Kate any advice on how to keep children cool in the summer? My 6 mnth daughter sweats constantly!
Jamie McKnight @jamie_mcwise
@Kateplusmy8 Any advice on how to get a 2 year old back on a regular sleep schedule? Late sunset has turned him into a night owl!
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Rick V. @TherealDragonV
@Kateplusmy8 I moved to Schuylkill county this week :-/
And Kate cares because...???
suzanne bodell @zanne68
@Kateplusmy8 Oh you know the usual healing from a fractured hip in the breast infection LOL
A fractured hip in the breast infection really has to have physicians scratching their heads!
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 2h
@Kateplusmy8 The struggles ur N 2day R strengthening U 4tomorrow. Don't ever give up! Handle stress like walking...one step at a time! :)
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@Kateplusmy8 U must have had a hard day! "Good evening friends"..LOL Usually its.."hey guys..what
's up?" #SparkyKate :)
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I'm beginning to wonder if Milo wants Kate's life to be full of hard days and stress.
Milo, Milo, Milo -- remember your tweet today. If Kate wants you to know something, she will tell you. You don't have to ask her! lol!!
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack
@Kateplusmy8 BTW Kate...U never got back w/us...how was Alexis' shopping experience w/the fake credit card? :)
Kate Gosselin is really not the reason behind the sheeple on Twitter. They would be like anyway, even if they were tweeting about cheese. Kate no doubt thinks she's the sun in their universe, but she's not. She's just a small ball of gas who is interchangable with hundreds of others. Look at girls tweeting that Aaron Hernandez must be innocent because they think he's cute.
It's the haters and sheeple who keep Kate's twitter feed going. Not Kate. Not Jon. Not the 8 or 6 or 2 kids.
Yeah, my breasts look pretty hippy, too.
Milo's tweet about Kate (handling stress like walking) sounds to me like Kate has some NEW stress on her plate. Oh my, what could it be?
Kids spilled sugar on the floor? Washing machine leaked? Found a bug in the pool? Need a vacation? Cookbook not selling well? No phone call from The View? Got crazy people on Twitter? Even crazier fans?
Parent, I know the kids don't take the late bus from Kate's own tweets that have been shared here and her blogs. She's mentioned quite a few times having to make two trips to the bus stop - one to pick up the younger kids and then later to pick up Mady and Cara. We've even discussed that at length in the past, so if you feel like combing through old posts, have at thee.
Parent, I agree that we don't need to know everything the kids do. And I also agree that playing by yourself isn't a bad thing as long as you have opportunities to do other things and socialize with other kids as well. A summer at the family
My kids get plenty of downtime during the summer mixed in between one to two week camps, swimming lessons and playdates with friends. I wish the same for Kate and Jon's kids. You're going to be an adult a lot longer then you will ever be a kid - they deserve a chance to do the same things their peers do. Isn't this why they worked all those years, after all? So that they'd be comfortable and secure and have the resources to do those things?
Parent, I know the kids don't take the late bus from Kate's own tweets that have been shared here and her blogs. She's mentioned quite a few times having to make two trips to the bus stop - one to pick up the younger kids and then later to pick up Mady and Cara. We've even discussed that at length in the past, so if you feel like combing through old posts, have at thee.
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That's not always the case, but that's all I'm going to say about it!
callerbabe
@Kateplusmy8 Tomorrow it's laundry day-thank god I can take it easy before my church meeting tomorrow night!Maybe?
Kate really needs to know this. Of course, this one tweeted to Amy Roloff that she took a shower tonight, so...
Fans are so entertaining!
She's mentioned quite a few times having to make two trips to the bus stop - one to pick up the younger kids and then later to pick up Mady and Cara.
When has Kate ever told the truth?
I see the BV war has taken to Kate's twitter. Kate must be so proud to be a part of this since BV is her hero.
She's just a small ball of gas who is interchangable with hundreds of others...
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Well, that's understandable with all of those beans and cheese casserole concoctions she comes up with!
As for, Kate , telling the truth, we all know she lies about everything: all, the time.
I have a little story about MEEEEE. Okay, it's about Katie G. too. Anyway, I spent the last few minutes I had yesterday, reading the comments at The Stir- from last April. Many of the posts, were predicting Kate's "career" ending/demise. They started rolling on in, after the "Pets" blog. I never actually read the article (I just can't-- swear on it), but I read it had lots of "s" in it. Tons of "quotation marks!! !!!!!!"
So I guess the posters there were seers, so to speak.
(I also took my test today, for L.A. County Social Services, Worker II. I'm scared I may have picked up some of Kate's bad "bog" habits. Hogs to you all :)
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Interesting...in the one photo she has boobs, in the other, nothing. How do the sheeple explain this?
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Wait, this fan tweeted to Amy Roloff...
I took a shower tonight. (?)
I don't use Twitter anymore, but that's something else.
Parent - I think the lady doth protest to much. You are obviously hinting that the kids are involved in after school activities.
I respect that you are trying to maintain the kids privacy but I feel that if that is your goal then you need to simply not comment on these types of discussions. Sometimes it's okay for someone on the Internet to be wrong.
I understand that it must be difficult for you and other locals to not comment on what you hear or see on a regular basis.
But this whole debate could have been handled with a simple "they are involved in after school activities." You're not saying what they're doing or how often. You're not compromising their privacy in what I feel is any significant way.
I guess I am reacting to the exclamation point at the end of your last comment. It reads to me as if you are irritated and frustrated. I guess I am too a bit in that I spent a part of my afternoon discussing a topic that was, based on your insinuation, a moot point.
I'm glad they are involved in sports or other activities at their school and I give Kate a thumbs up for enrolling them, if that is the case.
Sherry Baby said... 69
I would love to meet Milo and sit down with her for an interview. It would be interesting to study her from the sociological conflict theory approach...how the elite influences the weak and insecure in society.
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I think there are just some people who have different levels of mental illness and/or disorders. How do you explain people like the woman trying to get Joran van der Loot a new trial? People marry murderers, serial killers, child abusers..."celebrity worshipers". People ARE serial killers, murderers, abusers... I mostly blame nurture vs nature for most of these outcomes, but sometimes people are just born with malignant brains. It's an organ just like the heart, lungs, kidneys...if they can "stop working" or become damaged, why can't the brain?
I hope the kids are involved in summer activities. I guess we speculate because on this subject, Kate is mostly silent (unusual for someone who tweets her every bowel movement). We also speculate because she consistently treats the tups as a pack, so it is hard to envision her allowing them to scatter to different interests. And Kate is lazy and I just don't see her acting as chauffeur all day long. Oh, one more thing, the bitching about money also makes me think she doesn't want to spend any money on them (so grifting). But I have hope that she has someone driving the kids to activities because I think she prefers not having them around the house all the time. Rather than admit she has help, she just doesn't share what the kids are doing outside of the home.
Even if the kids are stuck home all summer with just each other, I would think that wonderful property, pool, and all their toys would be a great way to spend the summer. And if Kate has a part time nanny, so much the better. The only two that would be bored, IMO, would be tweens Cara and Mady. I am sure they would prefer the company of their friends.
Either way, not a bad summer for the kids as long as they don't make mommy mad.
Starting to get slow, not much Kate stuff to talk about.
It never fails: About this time she usually does something incredibly stupid to generate conversation.
Mel said... 95
Starting to get slow, not much Kate stuff to talk about.
It never fails: About this time she usually does something incredibly stupid to generate conversation.
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Ha! I was just thinking the same thing. I predict a grifted trip.
Her Twitter timeline is trashed, sheesh, what a mess! I also noticed that she popped on last night and
said "Good evening, friends... Checking in to say hello....what's new?" and then didn't respond or RT anyone. She did the same thing about a week (?) ago and I remember thinking that it didn't sound like her. Almost as if someone else were tweeting for her.
Silimom said, "I respect that you are trying to maintain the kids privacy but I feel that if that is your goal then you need to simply not comment on these types of discussions. Sometimes it's okay for someone on the Internet to be wrong."
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Just my opinion, but it might be difficult for someone who reads a statement of fact, "the kids do not take the late bus" NOT to offer some kind of a comment when they probably know that it's not true.
"I guess I am reacting to the exclamation point at the end of your last comment. It reads to me as if you are irritated and frustrated."
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I guess, then, that Kate must have more than just irritated and frustrated when she wrote her bogs!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)
melandi muller @melandimuller 6h
@Kateplusmy8. Hi kate I was just tinking of you. Really want to meat you. I'm in SA
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LOL!! Well, she has a new deli slicer.
Probably equally frustrating when folks can point to A, B, C, D, E and F (i.e. the tweets, the blogs, the manual, etc etc etc etc) to back up their points, then to constantly be chided by a local that you just don't know what you are talking about how dare you!!! As if their observations came from out of nowhere or aren't based on anything solid, when they certainly are. Oh well.
..how the elite influences the weak and insecure in society.
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Yes. What I find very fascinating about this is that not only were children exploited in this whole saga, but quite frankly, fans were too. It's pretty clear at this point Kate has sought out certain types of fans. As you say, the weak and insecure. Weak intellectually, emotionally. Unstable people. These are the kind of people she surrounds herself with to boost her ego and bye whatever she is shilling, from the cruise to her cookbook to bella bars to that makeup kit thing. It's not unlike the old snake oil salesman who would seek the same people out.
I think it's wrong to exploit children but I think adults who don't know better or aren't emotionally or mentally all there can be exploited too, which is also wrong. And in fairness, I don' think Kate is the first celebrity to do so. I think a lot of celebrities are dependent on sort of "scamming" fans. I mean look at Paula Deen, or Lance Armstrong. They depended for years on fans who don't ask questions or think critically about what they see. They are but a few examples.
bye=buy!!
Hey Kate! What did you get in the make-up box this month? Wanna tweet a pic of it???
Now that I think about it, you haven't tweeted a pic of your personal make-up box purchase ever, have you....hmmmm...I wonder if you really ever bought one....
How a 'bout a tweet pic of those boxes of Bella Bars that you say you buy?
And not a fake pic either. I want one of YOU, standing with the boxes of bars, and one of YOU with the make-up box.
Admin@99 said:
"Probably equally frustrating when folks can point to A, B, C, D, E and F (i.e. the tweets, the blogs, the manual, etc etc etc etc) to back up their points, then to constantly be chided by a local that you just don't know what you are talking about how dare you!!!"
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I think you're directing this to me. You're right, admin. I wasn't aware that I was constantly chiding.. I was only trying to point out that there is so much speculation and assumptions made when nobody really knows if these kids have summer activities, or are involved in other things at school with their peers. There are so many accusations that the children are totally isolated from society. If they are in school then that really isn't the case, and just because Kate doesn't post their every move during the school year or summer doesn't mean that they are lacking in social skills generally acquired during this formative time in childhood.
Someone commented that the kids never take the late bus from school. This is known as a fact because Kate herself says she makes multiple trips to the bus stop. This is known because it is written in the manual. Is it possible that Kate says this because she wants fans to know what an exhausting job she has as a mother of EIGHT kids...having to make two or more trips to the bus stop? The old sympathy card. Would she ever say that the kids all get home late from school activities and she only makes one trip there, and that it's an hour or so less time she has them at home during the school day? Would it have been so dramatic a Wife Swap if it was made public that the kids don't get home at 6 or 7 p.m., eat and do some quick chores?
However, NEVER ONCE did I say anything close to "you don't know what you are talking about." In fact, I have avoided discussing anything that would even approach invading the kids' privacy in regards to their schedules, activities, their academics, their friends, etc.
I'm sorry. It seems that comments from locals sometimes really aren't well received. I've noticed this in the past (other locals who commented here) and rather than set a negative tone here, I'll just refrain from commenting. Thanks for providing such an excellent (and fun!) forum for discussing Kate (and her over-the-top fans)...and of course, Milo!
I was only trying to point out that there is so much speculation and assumptions made when nobody really knows if these kids have summer activities
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But I think most people have made it abundantly clear that they are only basing their speculations on what we do know. I don't recall a single person saying I know how this is for a fact. I think people have said over and over we can't know for sure, BUT based on what we do know, this is what I think. I know I've more or less said that dozens of times. I don't think it's necessary to start every post with, Now we are only basing this on what we do know and this is only my opinion and speculation on what I DO know! Obviously, that is what is going on and has been for years here.
Even I find it a bit irritating to be told well I can't say why, but you're wrong. If you have something to say by all means, say it. Otherwise it's just hinting, hemming and hawing, and that's what I think isn't well received by many posters, has nothing to do with the "local" thing. If that makes sense. No one likes a tease, local or not.
Let me just say that we have no way of knowing if someone who posts here as a local is actually a local. If someone knows we have misrepresented a fact, then email Admin, identify yourself, and let her post your comment under your anonymous name. I don't have a problem with being set straight, but anonymous posts that basically tease saying I know the truth but I'm not telling are not worth taking seriously.
you're wrong and just have to trust my anonymous insider, I can't say anything more..."
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Nice try, but that was not my response whatsoever. You can go back and look yourself. My response was you can believe it or not, that's up to you. And that is still my response. I couldn't care less what you want to believe.
Lancaster said...
There are so many accusations that the children are totally isolated from society. If they are in school then that really isn't the case, and just because Kate doesn't post their every move during the school year or summer doesn't mean that they are lacking in social skills generally acquired during this formative time in childhood.
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I didn't hear anyone saying that the kids are "totally isolated from society" or "lacking in social skills". It irritates me when someone takes comments, twists them into absolutes that go far beyond what was said, and then attacks the commenter. Many of us here have raised our children, and have seen the outcome of our own parenting styles, and, through our children, have seen many other families, some who have had some very sad outcomes. Many of us have shared personal stories because something resonated in us.
In addition to Kate's military manual, many of us were shocked to see the flat affect in some of the kids, and their Roomba-like performance of chores. We saw sad children's bedrooms, devoid of personality, and an older sister too wise for her age.
Those children are not living the normal lives that their classmates enjoy, they will be forever known and defined by that stupid show. They have had their childhoods stolen from them by the people that are entrusted with their well-being.
So, hooray, if the kids are in some activities. This is summer--does she get an award for that? In addition to their chores, they spend 10 hours a week sitting on a freaking bus. On their days off, they get to special chores on top of regular chores. It is just so very sad.
Parent In Lancaster County said... 103
I've always appreciated your quiet comments regarding the kids and have chosen to believe what you share. After so much time spent on a blog, one gets a sense of who's in the know and who's not. While none of us want to know the everyday schedule and personal details of the kids' lives, it does help to be turned in the right direction as to their activities for the simple reason that we can then refrain from rehashing suppositions over and over. And I do also appreciate learning that they spend quality time with their dad - don't need to know details, just that it does happen.
Hope you'll continue to share.
If someone knows we have misrepresented a fact, then email Admin, identify yourself, and let her post your comment under your anonymous name.
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But unless admin does some vetting on her own, anyone could say that she knows something to be a fact because her kids are in the same class, or go to the same church, or her husband is one of the "mowing boys." What good would e-mailing admin do simply because they identified themselves as an insider? I think admin has enough to do without vetting inside sources. I don't even know how she would go about finding out if someone is really as she/he claims to be. She certainly isn't going to call the landscaping company to find out if they have someone by a certain name who mows Kate's yard. Just an example (and probably a bad one).
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Parent In Lancaster County said... 103
I've always appreciated your quiet comments regarding the kids and have chosen to believe what you share. ...
Hope you'll continue to share.
Me, too.
Parent in lancasetr County:
Just wanted to say I have always enjoyed your posts and also admire your restraint in not giving out details that you may well know about the G's as you live nearby.
Would she ever say that the kids all get home late from school activities and she only makes one trip there, and that it's an hour or so less time she has them at home during the school day? Would it have been so dramatic a Wife Swap if it was made public that the kids don't get home at 6 or 7 p.m., eat and do some quick chores?
Once again, the lying liar who lies. Once again, inauthentic.
Her whole MO is confusion. Confuse, lie, deceit.
That way no one really knows the truth.
The TV show says one thing, the locals see another thing....probably a kernel of truth in each thing, eh?
Lancaster Mom, you're speculating yourself that Khate was lying in her wife swap manual. You can't know that for sure. You're doing exactly what you accuse others of doing Haha! You can't have it both ways. Either speculation is allowed or not but you don't get to do it yourself then get all strung out when others do it.
But I think most people have made it abundantly clear that they are only basing their speculations on what we do know. I don't recall a single person saying I know how this is for a fact.
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True, but Silimom (82) commented, "Parent, I know the kids don't take the late bus from Kate's own tweets that have been shared here and her blogs." To some that may sound like a fact. But on what is it based? On Kate's tweets and blogs? So many have pointed out Kate's lies and exaggerations, but in this case she's to be believed?
I am so confused.
Anonymous,
Is there a reason why you had to be anon for that comment? I didn't think that Lancaster Mom was strung out at all.
I enjoy her posts and thought she was just expressing her opinion.
(113)...I thought admin said that she was no longer posting comments from Anonymous (es) because they can't follow one simple rule, Rule #1.
Jane said... 108
Parent In Lancaster County said... 103
I've always appreciated your quiet comments regarding the kids and have chosen to believe what you share. After so much time spent on a blog, one gets a sense of who's in the know and who's not. While none of us want to know the everyday schedule and personal details of the kids' lives, it does help to be turned in the right direction as to their activities for the simple reason that we can then refrain from rehashing suppositions over and over. And I do also appreciate learning that they spend quality time with their dad - don't need to know details, just that it does happen.
Hope you'll continue to share.
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Same here.
I didn't hear anyone saying that the kids are "totally isolated from society" or "lacking in social skills"
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I believe that was tweeted by one of the "haters" and brought over here, and yes, there have been comments that suggested that the kids were lacking in social skills.
"In addition to their chores, they spend 10 hours a week sitting on a freaking bus."
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But they are away from her. I guess they can be grateful for small favors. Of course she could have chosen to send her kids to a school that is closer, but would that really have solved the "freaking bus" problem? I know that here, even within the public school district, there are children who ride the bus 40 minutes to and from school because the buses make multiple stops at nearly every intersection, rural road, etc., and it takes them that long to get to the public school which is but a few miles away.
They will never live a normal life and it's very sad. But they don't know what is "normal" because for them, this is their "normal." That's even sadder.
Lancaster said...
There are so many accusations that the children are totally isolated from society. If they are in school then that really isn't the case, and just because Kate doesn't post their every move during the school year or summer doesn't mean that they are lacking in social skills generally acquired during this formative time in childhood.
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I didn't hear anyone saying that the kids are "totally isolated from society" or "lacking in social skills". It irritates me when someone takes comments, twists them into absolutes that go far beyond what was said, and then attacks the commenter. Many of us here have raised our children, and have seen the outcome of our own parenting styles, and, through our children, have seen many other families, some who have had some very sad outcomes. Many of us have shared personal stories because something resonated in us.
In addition to Kate's military manual, many of us were shocked to see the flat affect in some of the kids, and their Roomba-like performance of chores. We saw sad children's bedrooms, devoid of personality, and an older sister too wise for her age.
Those children are not living the normal lives that their classmates enjoy, they will be forever known and defined by that stupid show. They have had their childhoods stolen from them by the people that are entrusted with their well-being.
So, hooray, if the kids are in some activities. This is summer--does she get an award for that? In addition to their chores, they spend 10 hours a week sitting on a freaking bus. On their days off, they get to do special chores on top of regular chores. It is just so very sad. And, if, as you say, Kate did that for show---even sadder. Proves that her fame means more than her children's lives.
Anonymous commented..."Lancaster Mom, you're speculating yourself that Khate was lying in her wife swap manual."
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I haven't seen any posts from "Lancaster Mom" in quite some time. What happened to her? Oh, and pick a name.
Katelyn Miksiewicz @kmiksiewicz 7m
Haha just saw Kate Gosselin at On the Border drinking a martini out of one of those huge fish bowls 🍹💁
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There's one on Woodland in Wyomissing. I wonder who is the designated driver. A martini would be so good right now. Even a rumspringa would work.
Ex Nurse said... 107
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Thank you for summarizing correctly the balance of what's been said here.
Parent, you've been a great commenter here, so I hope you don't leave, but if you can't tell us exactly why you obviously have a dog in this hunt, please tone down the "but you're all wrong!" and escalating the argument with hyperbole attributed to the posters who never said such things.
By and large, we've said "we don't know for sure" and "I hope they're in activities" and have listed numerous reasons why they should be, based on our collective knowledge and experiences, which I hope we continue to share.
I hope the kids are spending time with friends, with FAMILY and in activities outside of the compound.
MY_3BCOLLIES
#kateplusmy8 @RealZiggyFlo #anonymousecat Anyone that sends out those kinds of tweets is the lowest form of humanity & could face a judge.
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I think this is from a fan. Is she talking about MsGoody's vile tweets?
It looks like even the "haterz" don't know the difference between slander and libel. Why is that so confusing to many people?
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We vote for Daddy @Allisstair 2m
Marie, you're thinking of malicious slander, not vicious libel. Libel is spoken. OMG I don't have the heart to laugh. @kateplusmy8
many of us were shocked to see the flat affect in some of the kids, and their Roomba-like performance of chores.
Yeah. That was really weird.
You can't tell if that's how they are these days, or if they were uncomfortable with the camera now, or what the deal was.
Kendra's tears said that it was probably more than just they were uncomfortable with the camera.
Although part of the problem might have been that Kendra herself is authentic...and didn't understand that the manual was a lie, the schedule was only for that week, along with all the chores. That what she was told about the household was all lies.
OTH, she did seem to pick up that the kids are hyper vigilant towards the mood of the adults around them, and were afraid to let their real selves be seen. Only one reason for hyper vigilancy in a kid...sadly.
I agree, Midnight, but anyone who contacts Admin with their real name has got to know that all their personal information is easily obtained on the internet. Having said that, I cannot speak as to what Admin does to vet people. As she states, you can either believe what is posted or not, but to me just the fact that they took the time to email makes me lean toward them telling the truth. Considering what happened to LisaK's blog and her knowledge of some of her posters, it takes guts when you got somebody like Bullyville on your butt protecting Kate plus Kate's propensity to sue.
I appreciate the little bits of information that certain locals have shared here. As with all things I read on any anonymous forum, I am always mindful that while someone may seem genuine, they could be phonies as well. No offense intended toward anyone who posts here!
That being said, I hope it is true that the Gosselin children have some opportunities to interact with other children, beyond the school realm. I hope they participate in sports or other activities, that are just plain fun for them.
I think their lives when at Kate's house are extremely regimented and fairly joyless. That's why I am glad that Jon has them 50% of the time, so that they can lead a more normal life when with him. I simply do not believe that Kate ever does anything for those children, unless it specifically benefits her to do so.
Wanted to add: It may feel frustrating to be a person that has some greater knowledge about the Gosselins, either because you have some sort of contact with them (fellow parent at the same school, neighbor who lives nearby, etc.), because you cannot divulge too much without revealing your identity. Because there are so many scammers and phonies online who pretend to be something or someone they are not, you have to be prepared for some skepticism and not take it personally.
Further, most posters here do try to base their assumptions and theories based on the facts that are publicly available. I think that is the wisest course. The information available through interviews, the tv series, and other public appearances by Kate, is the most reliable information to use when reaching a conclusion. No offense is intended when we do not give the same weight to "insider information."
After all, there have been a number of posters who claimed to have inside info, which were later proven to be phony. I still recall one poster who insisted Kate and Jon's divorce was a publicity stunt, and they would remarry in order to achieve higher ratings.
Yet another poster referred to herself as the "new sheriff in town" and warned that anti-Kate posters would have some sort of come uppance. (That never came to pass either.)
I think the two posters here who are neighbors of Kate's are probably the real thing, but I have no proof, and therefore I take those bits of information carefully.
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8
Super excited about my cookbook LOVE IS IN THE MIX! Adding final precious/beautiful touches! Can't wait! Preorder: http://www.kateplusmy8.com
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I hope she erased the green rabbit ears from her daughter's head and cropped the bottom of the cover photo. Every time that photo shows up on Kate's Twitter page, I have to shake my head and laugh.
This is totally off topic and has nothing to do with anything except the cuteness factor for all of the animal lovers on this blog. Watch and enjoy!
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?feature=player_embedded&v=VRgQaOOZRo4
Kate tweets, "adding final precious/beautiful touches" to her cookbook. Is she lowering price, is she redoing cover, is she adding more pics or is she adding more time under the pre-order static? What has HCI told her to do to get more orders?!!??
@Kateplusmy8: Super excited about my cookbook LOVE IS IN THE MIX! Adding final precious/beautiful touches! Can't wait!
Preorder: http://www.kateplusmy8.com/
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So she's adding "final precious/beautiful touches". Does this mean that the publisher is waiting to see how many pre orders she gets before sending it to the printer? Does this mean that if she doesn't get enough pre orders that the book may be cancelled? Does this mean that the brick and mortar stores don't want to commit to ordering the book if the pre sales are so dismal? Inquiring minds want to know.
BarbGilmer
@kateplusmy8 I did back in march, I CAN'T WAIT!!
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WHY? What could possibly so inspiring and earth-shattering in that book that you just CAN'T WAIT?
Over In Kate's County said... 121
Katelyn Miksiewicz @kmiksiewicz 7m
Haha just saw Kate Gosselin at On the Border drinking a martini out of one of those huge fish bowls ����
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There's one on Woodland in Wyomissing. I wonder who is the designated driver. A martini would be so good right now. Even a rumspringa would work.
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I hope she meant margarita, because a martini that big would fell an elephant.
Either way, not a bad summer for the kids as long as they don't make mommy mad.
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Those kids make Mommy mad by breathing. Just like their Daddy did.
Over In Kate's County said... 121
Katelyn Miksiewicz @kmiksiewicz 7m
Haha just saw Kate Gosselin at On the Border drinking a martini out of one of those huge fish bowls ����
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There's one on Woodland in Wyomissing. I wonder who is the designated driver. A martini would be so good right now. Even a rumspringa would work.
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Sory if this is a stoopid question but I've been to a few bars and stuff but don't know what a rumspringa is. Is it rum and water?
Kate Gosselin@Kateplusmy82h
Super excited about my cookbook LOVE IS IN THE MIX! Adding final precious/beautiful touches! Can't wait!
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Ahh...more pictures. lol
Thanks Over in Kate's County for sending over that tweet. That's the kind of thing I believe. Must be happy hour time all the time for ol' Katie. Wonder who she was sharing that martini with and who is watching the kids? These kind of tweets always bite her in the butt (like when she was spotted clubbing and filming in LA for Wife Slut) or someone spotting Steve following her in a golf cart during the Las Vegas Marathon.
Over In Kate's County said... 121
Katelyn Miksiewicz @kmiksiewicz 7m
Haha just saw Kate Gosselin at On the Border drinking a martini out of one of those huge fish bowls 🍹💁
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A business lunch regarding the "final touches"? (And a martini?? Thought she said she only likes wine?)
Well, the editors probably corrected those errors we found, and that will be interesting to see because then it's even more proof she reads here.
Regarding Kate's Twitter timeline, which I hadn't seen in a few days:
I just had a conversation about social media with my kid the other day. It kind of went like this:
It's the first place prospective employers, prospective dates and law enforcement go these days. If you put it out there, expect it to be there forever.
I see these 'adults' posting this stuff on both sides and my jaw drops!
I see Kate Gosselin allowing this on her time line (in her name) and my jaw drops!
Fans and haters may not need jobs, but Kate sure does. Does she think this Twitter account is going to help her attain employment?
And for Godsake! her kids are going to see ALL of this someday.
Okay, my rant is over and I feel somewhat better :-) Thanks for listening my 15-min friends! :-)
"Verdicts" on Kate Gosselin are arrived at by preponderance of the evidence; beyond a reasonable doubt is not required.
'Precious/beautiful touches?' What does that mean? I can't imagine a publisher or editor directing an 'author' to add those! I agree it's either more photos or 'cute' anecdotes or even her 'famous' bible verses for when they pray before dinner- a tradition, you know.
Maybe the editors actually tested some of the recipes in the book and after tasting them told her that she had to fix them.
The twitterbots are already out and about telling Kate how often threw watch the show on Netflicks so I guess it's time to buy some more that will tweet that they can't wait for the book and/or book tour and they've already pre ordered 8 (yes 8) copies of the book.
Precious touches is odd to describe a cookbook. Sounds more like Pat the Bunny or Goodnight Moon. The children are pushing 13 and 9 and a half.
Remember when Kate left the Stir and Milo tweeted this and Kate responded?
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 2h
@Kateplusmy8 Nice tenure @The_Stir...now time 2move ahead. Would love 2see U submit a new blog every wk on ur http://kateplusmy8.com site!
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 27 Jun
@MiloandJack @The_Stir
Consider your wish granted! :)
Here's what another fan tweeted and Kate's response:
Julie Timmons @juliectimmons 27 Jun
@Kateplusmy8 can we look for a weekly blog post on your website now?
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 27 Jun
@juliectimmons great idea! Sure thing!!! I'll keep you posted!
Since her last bog at the Stir, Kate has posted old pictures of the kids, and July 4 pictures.
I don't think those were the type of posts that they were begging for. Is Kate again forgetting that she basically promised that she would be writing weekly posts on her website?
When I saw the tweet about her having lunch at On the Border, my first thought was what happened to all that Chipotle love that she was showing? I guess Chipotle doesn't serve alcoholic drinks.
NJGal51 said... 144
Maybe the editors actually tested some of the recipes in the book and after tasting them told her that she had to fix them
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I think you're right. Before cookbooks are put out on the market the recipes are usually put through "test kitchens" to ensure the
ingredients, directions, oven temp, etc. are correct and that the final outcome is the intended outcome - good, tasty food. Nobody is going to go by the Gosselin Kid ratings in the real world. Kate's book may or may not have passed muster.
Wow, drinking out of a glass as big as a bowl? What I would give to just walk by her table when she has her head turned and slip in a couple of goldfish. haha
Oh, I forgot, Steve's head will have to be turned too!
Hopefully, the children are with Jon.
Parent in Lancaster, please stay and post.
Sory if this is a stoopid question but I've been to a few bars and stuff but don't know what a rumspringa is. Is it rum and water?
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LOL, not really. Among the Amish, Rumspringa is the time when young adults are free to go out and experience life among the "English" and then decide if they want to return to the Amish way of life and if so, then they are baptized. During Rumspringa they are free to go and be "worldly" and cast off their Amish traditions.
There was a discussion on the Amish, and someone thought that it would be a good name for a drink. It was discovered that there really is a Rumspringa brewing company in Lancaster, but it's not a mixed drink..it's beer. It's a way of sowing your wild oats (like the traditional Amish Rumspringa kids do). Here, you can check it out:
http://www.padutchcountry.com/members/rumspringa_brewing_company.asp
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 2h
@Kateplusmy8 Excitedly awaiting this 4yrs! Wishes/dreams abt 2become REALITY! Happy 2support Kate's hard work >> http://www.kateplusmy8.com/pre-order-love-is-in-the-mix/ … … :)
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 2h
@Kateplusmy8 After all these yrs..all this hard work..I know U are breathing a sigh of relief..but also much satisfaction 4 a job well done!
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Ah good ol Milo is right on time.
I still recall one poster who insisted Kate and Jon's divorce was a publicity stunt, and they would remarry in order to achieve higher ratings.
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I remember that! Was it the same person who was posting "inside" information about something "big" that was going to be revealed in the next few weeks? Nothing ever came of it. The person was piecing together bits and pieces of internet gossip and putting it out there as something only a person close to the Gosselins would know.
Was the sheriff on this blog? I thought he/she was on GWOP. That person was so pathetic that it was funny, claiming to get credit card information, background information on posters who posted anything negative about Kate, and that the Gosselin boys would whoop some a$$es!
PatK said... 139
''....A business lunch regarding the "final touches"? (And a martini?? Thought she said she only likes wine?)''
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Wasn't there something in Robert's book about KK telling someone she was sorry for drinking too many chocolate martini's, and promising to be on her best behavior during some future meeting/event?
Parent, you've been a great commenter here, so I hope you don't leave, but if you can't tell us exactly why you obviously have a dog in this hunt, please tone down the "but you're all wrong!" and escalating the argument with hyperbole attributed to the posters who never said such things.
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I don't recall any local person (myself included) saying that "but you're all wrong," let alone escalating any argument with hyperbole. Of course, when the Rumspringa flows, I may have missed such things.
It cracks me up when milo unwittingly insults Kate. Lol way to rub it in it took her 4 years to finally get a rudementary cookbook off the ground.
So are alcohol laden "business" lunches, perhaps on her employer's tab, part of the hard work she is always complaining about?
As Auntie Anne would say, poor thing!
I believe she wrote an email to Steve's wife promising that she wouldn't get drunk as a skunk at the Christmas gathering this time, would be on her best behavior....
Something like that, I think.
And of course she was drinking even before the limo left the driveway when she went to NYC with Jamie, and woke up hung over the next day. While her babies were home shocked and crying that she was so suddenly abandoning them.
I would never buy a cookbook without first knowing what type of recipes are in it. Unless the sheeple are buying it just for the photos. Again, she can't do anything without her kids.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 151
It cracks me up when milo unwittingly insults Kate. Lol way to rub it in it took her 4 years to finally get a rudementary cookbook off the ground.
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To bad it's not selling like it would have four years ago.
Sorry for the double post--thought it went through, then saw it was still in comment box. I added a couple of lines and resent. Anyway, what I added was that, if as was hypothesized, Kate amped up her prisoner manual for her image, that would be the saddest thing of all. Of course, as Kate has said, her kids are extensions of her. I guess that means that she can use them any way she wants. The idea that the Roomba performance may have been choreographed and rehearsed is sickening.
As long as I am, as Milo would say, speculatin', I think that the presious touches are go her poor exploited kids grinnin' it up for the cameras and acting there little hearts out because Mommy needs to be famous.
kids first said... 154
I would never buy a cookbook without first knowing what type of recipes are in it. Unless the sheeple are buying it just for the photos. Again, she can't do anything without her kids.
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Right.
Kate can't even tweet or blog without using the number 8.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 1h
@Kateplusmy8 After all these yrs..all this hard work..I know U are breathing a sigh of relief..but also much satisfaction 4 a job well done!
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Milo, are you forgetting the first one was dumped, or it would have been out sooner?
Gladys is such a tool.
I doubt any publisher would drive to PA to meet over drinks for a book that has sold a hundred or two so far. It is not like she is some famous author. She was probably having more "me time" and tweeted about the book while drinking.
I don't know, I think they could be meeting as part of her contract. It may be some kind of package deal with X amount of necessary business meetings included.
Just a couple weeks ago Kate was spotted in some airport down south, she tweeted about some book meeting or something, and on that very same day someone from the publishing company posted on FB what a rough meeting they had that day lol.
Hysterical, and classic.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 1h
@Kateplusmy8 Excitedly awaiting this 4yrs! Wishes/dreams abt 2become REALITY! Happy 2support Kate's hard work >>
Those wishes/dreams won't become reality unless the book is actually published. The publication date is still over 2 months away. Anything can happen in the meantime.
Zondervan also had her cookbook on pre-order.
We all know how that turned out.
And while I am on a posting roll...I was thinking, say she makes $10 per book sold (I have no idea if that is reasonable for a book that is $17 on Amazon). Say she sells 1,000 books then she makes 10,000 dollars. Wow. Two months' mortgage, part of one year's tuition, you get my point. She and the sheeple act like this book is the Second Coming when ib reality, will it really help her financially? And then what? What will she do next?
I don't know, I think they could be meeting as part of her contract. It may be some kind of package deal with X amount of necessary business meetings included.
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Did someone confirm that it was a business meeting?
An article I enjoyed.
http://justcooknyc.com/2012/05/05/so-you-want-to-publish-a-cookbook/
irishfan @irishfan47 3m
@Kateplusmy8 just wondering when I order the book do I get a private cooking lesson:)
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Yes. Your balls will be on the chopping block.
Sorry. This guy is so annoying.
Did someone confirm that it was a business meeting?
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Nope. Just some light hearted, fun speculation based on Kate's tweet of the same day today saying she's working on putting some finishing "precious" touches on the book. It's what we do--put two and two together. As Fido said, and it made me giggle--preponderance of the evidence! A lower standard than beyond a reasonable doubt.
Drinking on the job is just so "precious" isn't it? Tee-hee.
Rachel @rachelkeeler 2m
I'M LIKE 3 MILES FROM KATE GOSSELIN'S HOUSE RIGHT NOW AND LEGIT FREAKING THE FUCK OUT
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Why are the majority of Kate's fans drive-by teenyboppers?
Any date set yet for that Slumber party with Austin and Emily?
Fleecing The Sheeple said... 165
irishfan @irishfan47 3m
@Kateplusmy8 just wondering when I order the book do I get a private cooking lesson:)
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Yes. Your balls will be on the chopping block.
Sorry. This guy is so annoying.
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Ugh Irshfan is a creep and Kate needs to ignore him as well.
Parent 103:
I too enjoy your comments and hope you keep posting. As I said, I'm sure it is difficult to be a local and have information you want to share but feel you can't. But as someone else said, and as I pointed out, I think if there is speculation and you know for a fact that it is wrong, then simply say what you know as plainly as you can with all due respect to the kids' privacy. It saves a lot of back and forth that goes on and the conversation can move on to something more productive.
Regarding Kate's cookbook - Can't wait to read the recaps!
Someone on twitter went to a Honey Boo Boo book signing today. She put up a short video and guess who was there? Steve!! I guess he has a contract with TLC. Didn't he also go with the Little People when they went to get their son?
Here's what she tweeted:
Rachel Avery @r_avery23 20m
The best part was when @BroWorl asked their security guard if he used to be Kate Gosselin security (aka the one who she had an affair with)
Here the tweet with a link to the video. You can see Steve at the end. Does he only own blue shirts?
Rachel Avery @r_avery23 3h
HONEY BOO BOO https://vine.co/v/h7Lpt5rP3YE
To the person posting as Preesi....I have Preesi's email, took it upon myself to email her, and asked her if she posted that. She has not.
Please don't hijack other people's names.
Milo is so amusing. She was on a rant yesterday and said that Kate isn't obligated to tell anyone anything, and off she goes. I wonder if she realizes how hypocritical she is, or with Gladys Kravitz Syndrome, I guess you just can't help yourself.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 14m
@Kateplusmy8 Did U get 2meet w/publishers 2day? We are getting close 2launch time >>> http://kateplusmy8.com/pre-order-love-is-in-the-mix/ … … :)
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 16m
@Kateplusmy8 So as our 14yr old says..."What's poppin 2night Kate?" :)
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 15m
@Kateplusmy8 What would it take 2get U 2tell us what some of those "final precious/beautiful touches" 2the book are? #HintHint :)
Parent, you have been a part of this blog for a very long time, and I hope I've already told you how much I have appreciated your input. I think I've called you a "favorite" of mine, and I meant it.
From the start you laid out your own rules about being a local. You would NOT just happen to drive by to see whose car or whose kids were outside the house. You would divulge no info about the school that would in any way point toward the Gosselin kids. You mentioned early on that you would tell us when you knew the assumptions made did not match what you had firsthand knowledge about - when those assumptions painted the Gosselin children in an unfavorable light, because they didn't deserve that.
Personally, I think you have been fair, even handed, kind and also helpful for getting a little better understanding of Life as a Gosselin. Thank you for your contributions and I hope you keep them coming. I appreciate you.
There is something I still don't get about twitter. When people(mostly the sheeple) are having personal conversations between each other that have absolutely nothing to do with Kate, why do they include her name in their convos?
People talk about their dogs, their vacations, the weather, etc. and they just carry on with each other on Kate's timeline. Can't they converse with each other about this stuff without including Kate? Or do they really think that Kate would really be that interested in the day to day routine of their lives?
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 15m
@Kateplusmy8 What would it take 2get U 2tell us what some of those "final precious/beautiful touches" 2the book are? #HintHint :)
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I know that Kate and Milo's theme song is "Close To You," but this tweet reminded me of another one that would be appropriate:
..."well you cant have a dream
and cut it to fit
but when I saw you, I knew
we go together, like a wink and a smile
We go together like a wink and a smile
Now my heart is music
such a simple song
singing again, the notes never end
this is where I belong
Just the sound of your voice
the light in your eyes
You're so far away from yesterday
Together, with a wink and a smile
We go together, like a wink and a smile."
kids first said... 165
And while I am on a posting roll...I was thinking, say she makes $10 per book sold (I have no idea if that is reasonable for a book that is $17 on Amazon). Say she sells 1,000 books then she makes 10,000 dollars. Wow. Two months' mortgage, part of one year's tuition, you get my point. She and the sheeple act like this book is the Second Coming when ib reality, will it really help her financially? And then what? What will she do next?
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She won't even make 1/5 of $10 per book.
If HCI is truly acting as her publisher and not printing the books for her, then Kate will make about $1.70 on a $17 book (anywhere it's sold). Most contracts give the author about 10% of the sales price. So she'll make about $1,700 on 1,000 books. And she'll have to claim it as income and pay taxes on it, too!
Milo responded to irishfan's tweet:
irishfan @irishfan47 1h
@Kateplusmy8 just wondering when I order the book do I get a private cooking lesson:)
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 47m
@irishfan47 @Kateplusmy8 Ha...doubt it! But the book will have pics of Kate working it N the kitchen 2inspire U! :)
Another example of how she does exactly what she complains about others doing. She butts in when it doesn't concern her.
I know irishfan is sort of creepy, but exactly what does Milo mean by "working it"? That sounds even creepier.
kids first said... 154
I would never buy a cookbook without first knowing what type of recipes are in it. Unless the sheeple are buying it just for the photos. Again, she can't do anything without her kids.
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chefsummer said... 160
Right.
Kate can't even tweet or blog without using the number 8.
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This just made me laugh picturing the recipes.
"Kate's Turkey Chili
8 lbs. of ground turkey
8 oz. tomato sauce
8 more oz. of tomator sauce
8 tsp. of cumin
8 tbsp. of chili powder
8 onions, chopped
8 pinches of salt
Bring to a boil then simmer for 8 minutes.
Enjoy! My chili is so AWESOME."
Parent in Lancaster County, don't leave. I think all the locals who post here have used a lot of restraint. It would be hard to keep not saying things when you know that we here (who speculate) are on the wrong track. You've always been respectful both of the posters here and of the kids' privacy--a tough balancing act!
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 6m
@kaymsheffer40 @Kateplusmy8 Spread the word! We want this 2b a HUGE success 4Kate! Took lots of hard wrk 2do this while raising 8kids! :)
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But it took her four years to write the book and they kids are being co-raised soooo.
I know irishfan is sort of creepy, but exactly what does Milo mean by "working it"? That sounds even creepier.
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LOL, Twit! I was just about to post the same thing. Exactly what is it that Milo wants Kate to "work?" We know that Milo thinks that Kate rocks a bikini, but is she going to rock it in the kitchen, and is the Irish Creeper going to be there to report to Milo?
8 lbs. of ground turkey
8 oz. tomato sauce
8 more oz. of tomator sauce
8 tsp. of cumin
8 tbsp. of chili powder
8 onions, chopped
8 pinches of salt
Bring to a boil then simmer for 8 minutes.
Enjoy! My chili is so AWESOME."
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Don't forget 8 cups of lemon juice, and let the chili cool for 8 minutes, take 8 minutes to eat it, and 8 minutes to wash the pot.
Virginia Pen Mom, thanks for the information. The moral of the story is that novice authors should not consider writing their sole source of income. I hope Kate is reading here.
All that time and energy (possibly at the expense of her kids) may have been definitely not worth it. No telling the financial cost.
Virginia Pen Mom said... 181
LOL you forgot to say it has 8 servings.
Why does this cookbook fiasco feel like deja vu? Haven't we been through her gushing/fake excitement before -- with the cruise, with the show that was never going to end (all the rumors about the cancellation were false, and then we had that insane contest to keep it going), and with Twist of Kate ("it's still in the works").
Did anyone see Two American families on Frontline? Never heard of it before, it was fantastic. In the same vein as The Farmer's Wife only for city families. It didn't quite have the balance of The Farmer's Wife with hope always shining through hardship--that was a perfect documentary. But it featured very strong men and women and resilient children, and a strong family bond through hard times.
It followed two Milwaukee families over the course of 25 years. Most of the adults were making less than 10 bucks an hour over that whole time with no benefits. But one family put their kids through college and the other had the kids in scouts. In the 2012 segment one of the sons, now 35, said what has stuck with him is his father's work ethic. These things really do stick with kids.
Anyone unaware of how Americans have been living should watch this.
Why does this cookbook fiasco feel like deja vu? Haven't we been through her gushing/fake excitement before -- with the cruise, with the show that was never going to end (all the rumors about the cancellation were false, and then we had that insane contest to keep it going), and with Twist of Kate ("it's still in the works").
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Exactly. It's the same song and dance every single time. Lots and lots of build-up and dramatic excitement and false promises only for it to end suddenly and pathetically like a deflating balloon. And for Kate to act like none of this ever even happened lol. As soon as the cookbook sinks along with the cruise, she'll never mention it again.
It's become the boy who called wolf!
Poor Milo. Maybe she should fire LOM. Less than 20 minutes after she bid her goodnight, Kate not only retweets it, but she also replied not once, but twice to Milo.
Kate started following ImageQuotes about a week ago. I think she only retweeted one of their tweets.
But Milo has been tweeting them quite often recently and she doesn't even follow them. I guess she figured if Kate follows them, then she'll start quoting from them. So I can just see Milo scanning their twitter timeline just to come up with the perfect quote for Kate.
So Kate's "final precious/beautiful touches" to the book were the acknowledgements?
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 30m
@MiloandJack I wrote the acknowledgments page today.. Was SO much fun to thank everyone who had a part! I LOVE this book! #LOVEISINTHEMIX
I wonder if she thanked them by their names and not just their initials, like she did in IJWYTK.
OT: re Paula Deen, news today is that she hired a new legal team for the employment lawsuit that lead to the now infamous deposition. I read the entire deposition, and toward the end of the testimony it us clear from lawyer comments that Paula a legal counsel was not forthcoming with some documentation the plaintiff lawyers thought they were entitled to via discovery process. Paula a team thought they could play hardball with the other lawyers, obviously they had no idea what hardball really means.
Paula fired her agent last week.
At last someone with sense us advising Paula now, and they are not letting her do any more media or YouTube appearances
Kate tweeted she wrote the acknowledgements for her crookbook today.
I'll lay down a $50 bet right now that Milo is expecting to be a part of that.
Why does this cookbook fiasco feel like deja vu?
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Reminds me of Yogi Berra saying, "It's deja vu all over again."
OT: I am absolutely loving Big Brother. Helen is a super fan and she won Hoh tonight. It was on the live show, so its not a spoiler. If you want spoilers go to jokers updates and read play by play of live feeds.
I am surprised at how personally some players are taking things, its a game, and Gina Marie you knew nick for what, fourteen days? And you are sobbing that he is gone? Honey, get your head in the game!
Funniest comment I read somewhere about Big Brother, something like if they don't get some miss Clairol in the house, there won't be any blondes by the end of the season.
Poor Milo. Maybe she should fire LOM.
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I wonder how many times LOM has tried to fire himself, but she just won't him go!
One more OT: US weekly online had an article ” Tom Cruise- Katie Holmes divorce one year later: Who Won?” A family law attorney is quoted as saying the big winners are the children ” because they are all largely pity of the press right now. Whatever agreement the parents reached, it was clearly good for the children because there isn't any squabbling going on in the media”.
The children are OUT of the press right now. Doggone autocorrect. Referring to Auto, and Tom s two older children
I came home from my shift a little after 11:30 tonight and put my dinner in the oven. After checking emails and my favorite websites, I was planning to eat and watch the shows I had taped. Katie Couric and Big Brother were my shows for tonight.
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