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Recently, I took advantage of a free pair of movie tickets to see “The Lone Ranger,” a movie I really have no desire to see. But the tickets were free! And they were limited, so without giving it much thought, I nabbed them. I needed them; they were free.
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But morally, this was kind of a crappy thing for me to do. Because maybe a hard-working mom saw the ‘Free Lone Ranger Ticket!’ link. And maybe she got excited because her daughter wanted to see it — but oops! Someone who doesn’t even appreciate the movie already got the last one because, “*shrug* It’s free.”
Part of being frugal, at least the moral part of it, is not taking more than what you need — not just because you can’t afford it, but because you want to leave more for everyone else. In this way, I think there is morality in thrift. What I did wasn’t frugal. It was cheap.
To me, the ongoing cheap vs. frugal debate proves that there’s morality in frugality. When does your frugality negatively affect others? Just because it’s a practical, sound financial decision for your budget doesn’t mean it’s a good decision overall. There are ethical questions to consider, which makes it seem like there is indeed morality in personal finance.
Money-related issues go beyond a cost-benefit analysis. We have to ask ourselves, is this hurting anyone?
Thanks for your common "cents", Kristin.
621 sediments (sic) from readers:
«Oldest ‹Older 1 – 200 of 621 Newer› Newest»Here is a golden opportunity for TFW (that effin' wife) to do something nice for someone that cannot afford food.
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I was thinking about this. If I could easily afford to take some of my kids out to eat a few times a week and I had a gift card, I'd take a look around the restaurant to see if there was a family there who might really need to use the card. Or, I'd wait outside the restaurant for a few minutes, watch for a family to go in, give them the card, tell them to enjoy their meal, and then leave. No fanfare. I certainly wouldn't tweet that I had a gift card. Who does that? Unless, of course the card came from the restaurant in return for promoting them.
Well this will fly right through the space between TFW's ears. One has to wonder where in her childhood she got the words 'tithe' and 'grift' confused.
I do like the sediments (sic) presented here. I think we've all been guilty of accepting a free sample here and there that we don't really need, or taking shampoo etc from a hotel.But this woman has expressed the lack of morality in this as it deprives a worthy person in need/want of something we don't really require. Same goes in taking those 'free' hotel goods- the hotel has to pay for them. We don't need them, so why do this ??
I recall TFW being so thrilled with the goodies in various hotels and snapping them up and we have read her "requirements" sent to hotels in preparation for her visits .And her grifting addiction.
Good thought-provoking post, Admin.
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Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 115
Another fact they leave out is Kate's refusal to work on the marriage. Sylvia LaFaire herself talks about how she TRIED to give Kate therapy and Kate was very resistant. Kate cut off the conversation when Sylvia tried to get her talking about her childhood, an important, essential component of therapy. I get that a childhood may be painful, but countless other people with much more painful childhoods have been willing to talk about them in therapy as long as it meant they could get better.
Jon also talked about how he desperately wanted Kate to give couple's counseling a real try and she refused other than with Dr. Phil to make a buck off it. I understand trying to save a marriage may not work, but don't you at least want to be able to tell your children you did everything you could to save it? That Mom and Dad gave this 100% effort before giving up?
When you are cut out of Kate's life that's it, there is no room to try to fix anything in her mind.
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Yes, funny how the fanz didn't thoroughly dissect that tidbit from "sterling" Kate where she said in the email to Hailey she would make it clear that she & Jon were seperated for a year before Jon started dating Hailey. That's hard for the fanz to dispute when this roughly fits the separation timeline others have given. Allegedly, by the Hawaii vow renewal trip TFW had already checked out and an "agreement" allowing Jon to date others was in the works.
Leading up to that, TFW was already totally estranged from her family and finally had enough FU money to ditch Jon. Achieving her ultimate goal of having no icky, annoying intrapersonal relationships which require compromise, respect, kindness, compassion and a filter. TFW used to cackle that R show was "the realest reality show on tv." When in reality she & Jon were separated and doing a very crappy job pretending to be happily married.
The fans know this. Their anger towards him stems from his refusal to play nice and carry on the charade. The show became popular because of TFW being a witch and long suffering Jon making his snarky under the breath comments. Alone, TFW has the appeal and talent of a pile of dog poo. If only Jon had stayed on with the fake reality show, their qween wouldn't be the unemployable lump she is now.
Great Topic. Someone said, can't remember who, that "Debt is the modern form of slavery"
I firmly believe that. I also firmly believe in taking what you need, and leaving the rest for others.
I am not financially rich, but I am financially free. Besides, the only thing we take with us are our memories, our true legacy we leave behind is how people remember us.
Money can't buy that.
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The hotel things is a good example. They are supposed to be for if you forget your shampoo or mouthwash, not because they want you to have a nice gift basket of free stuff courtesy of them. Of course there is no rule or law that says you can't take them even if you don't need them, but then doesn't that drive hotel prices up for everyone else over time? I think there is also a difference between taking a token gift (for instance, they were passing out free hand sanitizer on the beach last week) versus taking something like a movie ticket or restaurant gift card that could make a family really happy. Hand sanitizer is not going to crush any dreams but a movie ticket or gift card to a good restaurant could really make a less fortunate family's day.
I know someone worth millions who had an entire 10 gallon tupperware bin FULL of these little samples. It was positively unreal! Most people who saw that thought number one it was creepy and number too that it was really wrong. They of all people don't need all that and what if everyone took that much? If they had instagram when I saw that I would have taken a picture.
I think it's ok to take the little shampoo & lotion bottles from hotel rooms. They're put there for me to use, and I consider their expense to be a part of my bill. It's not like the hotel is refilling them for the next guest. At least I hope not! Lol. The hotel always has my credit card number in case they have to charge me for "incidentals." I've never been charged for taking the soaps & lotions. If I took a towel, I'd expect to be charged. Now, if I was an overnight guest in someone's home and they had toiletries in their bathroom for me to use, I wouldn't consider those mine for the taking.
I recall TFW being so thrilled with the goodies in various hotels and snapping them up and we have read her "requirements" sent to hotels in preparation for her visits .And her grifting addiction.
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Was the rider for her speaking engagements posted online?
Sandie @SandieBellz 4m
Lmfao at the hypocrisy of the nonfan comments. If you talk the talk you need to walk the walk. @Kateplusmy8
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And the fans don't think that they are ever guilty of being hypocrites...of not walking the walk? You can't make this stuff up. We could write an entire thesis on the hypocrisy of the fans.
Just Down The Road said... 6
I recall TFW being so thrilled with the goodies in various hotels and snapping them up and we have read her "requirements" sent to hotels in preparation for her visits .And her grifting addiction.
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Was the rider for her speaking engagements posted online?
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I think the letters that were leaked by the churches were the closest thing to a rider. Top notch all the way! I'm sure God spoke to her and told her that in order to do His work, she needed to ride in the first class section of the plane to get there :(
I use my own toiletries when I travel so I have no use for those provided by hotels. I do however take them with me when I check out and include them with my donations to our local women's shelter. I too consider the cost of these incidentals as included in my hotel charges.
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BM what a great idea.
The fans know this. Their anger towards him stems from his refusal to play nice and carry on the charade. The show became popular because of TFW being a witch and long suffering Jon making his snarky under the breath comments. Alone, TFW has the appeal and talent of a pile of dog poo. If only Jon had stayed on with the fake reality show, their qween wouldn't be the unemployable lump she is now.
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This is so true. But they just don't get it. The fans are saying that the best thing she ever did was to dump her "ex from hell." How do they explain, then, that getting rid of him was good when it actually caused her demise? It was proven that she couldn't fly solo on a show. Such a dichotomy!
But morally, this was kind of a crappy thing for me to do. Because maybe a hard-working mom saw the ‘Free Lone Ranger Ticket!’ link. And maybe she got excited because her daughter wanted to see it — but oops! Someone who doesn’t even appreciate the movie already got the last one because, “*shrug* It’s free.”
Part of being frugal, at least the moral part of it, is not taking more than what you need — not just because you can’t afford it, but because you want to leave more for everyone else. In this way, I think there is morality in thrift. What I did wasn’t frugal. It was cheap.
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Anyone else remember TFW blogging or tweeting about getting 19 boxes of some marked down item at the grocery store, cereal perhaps?
Yes I remember that vividly and I remember us saying TFW should leave some leftover for everyone else who actually NEEDS that discount to make it this month! People like her are the reasons some stores have to actually implement the common courtesy rule of "two per family" or "five per family" or whatever.
Morality right there.
We also take the complimentary toiletries when we stay at hotels. Our church collects them for the shelters they provide too. The cost of them 'is' included in the price for your stay, as are the 'free' breakfasts you get. LOL when I pay the amount of money they charge for a night's stay, I don't feel guilty for taking them!
I classify many extreme couponers 'hoarders' in this as well. Yes, some give to the needy, but many don't and hoard the goods they purchase, regardless of whether the goods will go bad or not. Hey, but they got it for free or for .01, .05., .10, so why not! Instead of getting 10 or 20, no, they clear a whole shelf of goods, because they can, not for need, it's greed plain and simple. Who needs 100 mouthwashes, no one's breath is that bad =)
I have absolutely no issue with someone trying to save money and provide for their family for less, food & toiletries are expensive and many are hurting financially. However, many stores have changed the way specials and coupons work together, simply because of the extreme couponers. Coupons are to get people to try products, get them at a reduced rate, etc. Not take 100 for free because you found a way to circumvent the intent of the offer. LOL can you tell this is one of my pet peeves.
Thanks to everyone for the info on Chipotle gift cards. I'll check that out next time I'm there, but I've never noticed them in the one I usually go to.
Re the hotel soaps/toiletries. I always take them. I keep a few to keep in my travel bag or purse (especially the hand lotion). The rest I put in a bag and periodically take them to our local toiletries/household goods pantry (works like a food pantry but distributes things like toothpaste, shampoo, laundry detergent, etc.) or to the local shelter.
TFW is like the dog in the manger. She'll take any freebie that comes her way, whether she can use it or not, but be damned if she's going to pass anything on to anyone else. It's hers, all hers.
Another comment. I remember a few years ago there was series on Quiverful families. One family of about 10, had their kids go to Sam's Club at dinner time and eat the samples- pizza, sausage rolls, juice, cookies etc until they were full.They also helped themselves to non-edible samples. I found this offensive.I think they did this at various bulk stores once or twice a week even if they weren't shopping there.They also said they relied strictly on donations to clothe the kids -what will happen when tuition, phones, computers, cars, and other expenses come up?
Wow, Franky, what a great post! You really made me think - I am mulling over your last sentence. That really sums up life, doesn't it? Thank you!
I too take the toiletries. Hubby travels a lot for business and he does too. We donate them to a place that serves homeless kids. They get showers there, and they have to have a new bar of soap each time, among other things. Hygiene laws and all that. They love getting that stuff and it keeps their costs down. The hotel factors that into the price of the room, but it can really help other organizations operating on a shoestring budget.
I take the soaps, lotions, shampoo, etc. and give them to an organization that sends them to the troops and gives them to veterans hospitals and homes.
I too remember TFW crowing about how she scored all of that discounted cereal and we opined that she should have taken a couple and left some for others. It's just like last year at the convention where "the word on the street" was that she had to have at least 8 of everything.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 14
Yes I remember that vividly and I remember us saying TFW should leave some leftover for everyone else who actually NEEDS that discount to make it this month! People like her are the reasons some stores have to actually implement the common courtesy rule of "two per family" or "five per family" or whatever.
Morality right there.
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That was such a disgusting display of greed. Because she has 8 kids she figures the community will have to go without the good deals while she grabs them all up.
A beautifully written article.
Thank you for sharing it with us, Administrator.
I wonder if TFW ever feels remorseful for glomming freebees/gifts?
Uhhhhhhh... Looks like she doesn't.
I bought a gross of toothbrushes from my dentist. They were for a mission. He donated a LOT of tubes of toothpaste, which would not have shipped very well. So, the toothbrushes were shipped out and the toothpaste was taken to the local health dept. where they would be given to children and adults free of charge. Everybody won.
I use the hotel freebies so I don't have to drag along shampoo, soap, etc. I have taken the soaps occasionally when I knew there was a need with the family next door. They were
in need more than they were not in need and they were thankful for every little thing. A half-eaten cake, a used mattress, an old keyboard were all trash to me and filled a need for them.
I haven't posted in forever, but had to come out of lurking to applaud admin for this topic. Kudos. There are so many examples of TFW testing morality, or just common courtesy, in her grifting. When reading the new post I immediately thought of her accepting gifts, large and small, from fans, and I cannot recall her even once saying, "No thank you, but please donate instead." Just as she could and should make a Twitter statement asking her fans not to comment on her ex on her twitter feed, she could and should also make a statement letting her fans know she does not accept gifts for herself or for her kids, and they will be passed along to people who need the help. Done and done. It is so wrong that she doesn't, and she'd come off as such a good person if she did.
But then, this is a women who re-sells items donated to her instead of passing them along to another who needs them.
The Jon interview was in one of the local papers today.
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I look at TFW as a big, empty void. She's trying to fill that void in her life with stuff. Lots and lots of stuff. Other people have 2 or 3 kids, she has to have more (I also think she never wanted to have to work so she planned a huge family because, well, how can she be expected to work when she has so many kids to take care of?). A 4,000 sq ft house is big enough for them, but she has to have 7,000. A couple acres is plenty, so she has to have 24. One or two cars is all she needs, so she has to have 3. There is something so desperate about her gimme-gimme-gimme attitude. It goes beyond her obvious trashiness. She doesn't seem to ever think she has enough, so she is constantly looking for more, no matter what it is or where it comes from.
Sadly, she became known for being demanding and greedy, and it's part of what ruined her career. Now she sits, her money dwindling away, wondering why she's not on TV. She can't help but grift, but she also lacks the insight to see what her reputation as a grifter is costing her. It's costing her what she wants most, which is a media career. That's a pretty high price for some toilet paper and gift cards.
I'm laughing at the hotel toiletries conversation. I was in Jamaica for a week and saved all the lotions and toiletries. My hair is very fine and I only use certain shampoos and conditioners. My daughter in law is an occupational therapist and she takes them into nursing homes and gives them to the elderly residents. They just love getting them. I saved so many of them that my luggage was over the weight limit. It killed me to have throw them all away not to mention I looked ridiculous. Getting rid of them though put me back under 50lbs. LOL
Just Down The Road said... 9
Sandie @SandieBellz 4m
Lmfao at the hypocrisy of the nonfan comments. If you talk the talk you need to walk the walk. @Kateplusmy8
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And the fans don't think that they are ever guilty of being hypocrites...of not walking the walk? You can't make this stuff up. We could write an entire thesis on the hypocrisy of the fans.
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Yes, starting with them fully admitting that if Jon put the kids on "Dad Swap" and left them with a stranger for a week, or, if Jon was photographed letting a kid crawl under his car, they would so not approve. TFW did those things = effusive praise and adulation, what a great mom! If Jon did those things = Arrest him! An angry mob would desend on his house in the woods with flaming torches.
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Great Topic. Someone said, can't remember who, that "Debt is the modern form of slavery"
I firmly believe that. I also firmly believe in taking what you need, and leaving the rest for others.
I am not financially rich, but I am financially free. Besides, the only thing we take with us are our memories, our true legacy we leave behind is how people remember us. Money can't buy that.
franky
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Franky - I think this is one of your best, if not the best, posts here. I agree with your sediments (sic) 100%.
Someone mentioned the little shampoos and lotions that hotels provide to guests. I do collect those whenever I stay overnight away from home, but I donate them to a local church group that runs a shelter for battered women and their children. They in turn place them into "gift bags" for newcomers.
Another thought-provoking article Admin and thank you. It made me realize why I don't like the coupon-clipping shows very much - because I feel that the extreme couponers are actually exhibiting greed in a way, scooping up numerous quantities of an item and thereby leaving less for others (especially if their shelves are already plenty full). It makes me feel uncomfortable, and this article helped me to see why it does.
Oops, I posted before reading all the comments, so I see that I basically repeated what others said about donating the small shampoos, soaps and lotions to a worthy cause.
I don't ever remember the Duggars grifting or being selfish in any way. They give a lot back to the community and do a lot of work for charity. I may not believe in their religion, but they still do great things for others.
The Roloffs never grifted either. They also give back to charities and their community. A portion of the profits from Amy's cookbook went to charity as well.
And look who TLC has kept on TV. The specials on the Roloffs and the Duggars usual show.
Another group of sickening grifters are the Sister Wives and King Krody. They may be able to out grift TFW in time, and if not at least be nose to nose.
Layla said... Couldn't have said it better myself! You hit the nail on the head and described TFW perfectly!
Milo and her cohorts have been so busy bashing Jon and Liz on twitter, that she has completely forgotten about promoting TFW's book. I don't think anyone has tweeted the link to pre-order it since last Sunday, when Barb Gilmer did that.
Novelrank shows 278 books sold-last one sold at Amazon.com was 2 days ago. The book's current rank on Amazon is #231,394. I don't think the book's rank ever went over 200,000 before.
TFW must be very unhappy that most of her "closest" tweeties are talking about Jon and not her nor her cookbook.
Great Topic. Someone said, can't remember who, that "Debt is the modern form of slavery"
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In the article that Admin referenced for this post, the author has a quote from Benjamin Franklin in which he says:
“Think what you do when you run in debt; you give to another power over your liberty.”
OrangeCrusher1 said... 2
Well this will fly right through the space between TFW's ears. One has to wonder where in her childhood she got the words 'tithe' and 'grift' confused.
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I think she may also have confused "pray" and "prey".
The Jon interview was in one of the local papers today.
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Oh sheesh. That will set them off again.
What a good point about forgetting all about her book. They let Jon "take away" the focus on Kate and her project and they have nothing to blame but themselves.
I think debt is one of the BIGGEST problems we are facing today. Culturally it's become acceptable and this is a very bad thing. People have also been priced out of things like homes and education such that they have no choice.
We are just SLOWLY starting to recognize it's a bad thing but it came far too late for many people. It's a problem that IMO should be front page news next to all the disasters and violence and royal spawn.
I am not financially rich, but I am financially free. Besides, the only thing we take with us are our memories, our true legacy we leave behind is how people remember us.
Money can't buy that.
franky
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Beautifully said.
I love the tone of what Kristin said.
I think what was most telling about the sudden leaking of Kate's "Asian, slant eyes" photo wasn't so much that she was unapologetic about a racial gesture, although I believe it was done without malice and innocently, was that it represents the the life of excess they were living.
They had money and goodies pouring in constantly and Kate had the nerve to say who is she to turn away gifts from fans?
I'll tell you who you are, Kate. You're a woman who had and has more than all of your needs met. Your children too. You do not need any gift or freebies from here on out. You haven't for a long, long, long time.
Yet, you take without any remorse or pang of conscience. You twist it into some sort of sick Christian ethos, that God chose you to receive wealth and the good life.
Maybe, just maybe, God keeps these gifts coming your way as a way of testing you, to see if you might begin to pay if forward and use your power to help others. When the cameras are not rolling. That does not count at all.
The list of celebs refusing gifts or asking people not to send gifts are endless. Even William and Kate were very clear they were asking people NOT to send gifts.
She could have been one of those celebs. Not everyone in her shoes does it too. Plenty of people do not grab up everything that comes their way like they are in a money wind machine.
TFW is like the dog in the manger
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Thank you! Have always thought that.
Yes, the Essex House is a great example of her greed. I was STUNNED when she wanted Kobe beef for everyone. Now, I doubt Kate understands that it's probably not Kobe, but American kobe, or Wagu beef, but that's not the point. The point is that it's not enough that she's getting her family fed for free, it's how she asks for the most expensive beef in the entire world!
I hope her kids don't grow up with her sense of entitlement and say one day, "don't you know who I am? I'm a Gosselin!"
Coming out of lurking for a moment.
Not sure if this had been mentioned earlier, but for the longest time on our local paper (Reading Eagle) website, if you hovered over 'Arts/Entertainment' it used to say a couple of things including "Taylor Swift" and "Kate Gosselin". Now it just says "Taylor Swift".
Ha...sign of Karma!
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Yet, you take without any remorse or pang of conscience. You twist it into some sort of sick Christian ethos, that God chose you to receive
wealth and the good life
Maybe, just maybe, God keeps these gifts coming your way as a way of testing you, to see if you might begin to pay if forward and use your
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Wow Tucker's Mom - nicely stated. This made me think of her journal:
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/cartoonists/asked-you-in-nicest-way.jpg
But then, this is a women who re-sells items donated to her instead of passing them along to another who needs them.
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It was marginally amoral to keep on accepting gifts when she became a millionaire, but it is immoral to sell them vs. donating them.
There is a difference between going after a freebee(in terms of entitlement) and having one given to you, because you happen to be at the right place at the right time. I had a guy offering to pay for my breakfast at Dunky Donuts, I assured him I can pay for it, and he insisted, and wanted nothing in return. After a few seconds I gave in. So I was in Menards and they were having their 15% off stuff the paperbag, and I had 2 bags, but when I got up to check out they said one bag to a customer, so I looked at the guy in back of me, he had no bag, so I gave him the bag. If there are freebees at the food store, I might take one or not take one.
As for the reality shows, that is what these people signed on for, getting paid to put their life on TV, sell their privacy for trips, remodeling, new furniture, clothes, cars etc. never earning a damn thing, almost a cheat/easy way to have what takes most average/normal/mediocre people half their lives to earn, working a job or up to 3 jobs to have those things. And some of these reality people have no conscious, no shame, or even want to give back, they think they are entitled, it is their right, and in their twisted minds they earned it, cause they exist and everybody has to love them/worship them, provide for them and not criticize them, cause they are always right and you are wrong.
This is how I see it.
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Oops, I posted before reading all the comments, so I see that I basically repeated what others said about donating the small shampoos, soaps and lotions to a worthy cause.
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It can't be said enough!
I do take the hotel shampoos and soaps from time to time and put it out for guests. I take my own toiletries, so I don't need the hotels' stuff, but if I'm running low at home, I'll take the given freebies because I do believe they are part of the cost of staying.
I think guests like having a little bit of a "getaway" feel when they can pick through a goodies box and even wear a nice white terry robe I provide ;-)
Also, Kate tweeting about a gift card was to either rub it in, see, people love me, so they give me things, like gift cards. Or Kate is using the pity I'm poor mom with no money, so a friend gave me a gift card so I can take some of my kids out to eat. After all I have 8 count them 8 kids, and it it such a chore & expensive to raise them. But I can find money to go to the Kentucky Derby(plane, limo, hotel, event tickets, and new clothes and hat, and bodyguard). That poor dear!
In the Christian tradition our model prayer says "Give us this day our daily bread" which asks God to assure we have what we need, no more and no less.
God tells the crop growers of Israel to not harvest the outer rows of produce but to leave them for the hungry to harvest for themselves.
The concept of having only the amount you need and providing the poor with the rest is deeply rooted in the Judeochristian tradition.
I'll read the 39 comments after I post.
I would never call Kate Gosselin moral or frugal.
Morally, she's lived off her kids for most of her life and never come close to giving back even half of what's been given to her.
Frugally, much of that money has been spent on things that were not necessities. A family with ONE licensed driver doesn't need 3 cars sheeple. Do the math.
Other people have 2 or 3 kids, she has to have more (I also think she never wanted to have to work so she planned a huge family because, well, how can she be expected to work when she has so many kids to take care of?). A 4,000 sq ft house is big enough for them, but she has to have 7,000. A couple acres is plenty, so she has to have 24. One or two cars is all she needs, so she has to have 3. There is something so desperate about her gimme-gimme-gimme attitude.
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And...seriously...does she really need 5 freezers?
KyPastor, nice to see you! God also said that the Israelites should not take more manna than they required daily, to trust in Him to provide each day's needs. And sure enough, if they did take more than a day's worth, it got stinky and rotten. Imagine smelling that in the heat of a desert day!
I didn't expect this post to prompt such an in depth discussion. You all still have it! :)
I've always thought that people who constantly lust after stuff and things and the tangibles in life may just be trying to make up for something missing in the intangible part of their life. What's missing, TFW?
This is from a sermon given this morning. It was shared by a friend.
-Evil is the lack of awareness of others
-Evil people delude themselves that they are perfect and all others are WRONG
-Conscience is our connection with God
-Evil ones must constantly justify their actions to prove that they are right and perfect
-As we mature we become more other-centred and less self-centered
-Evil has no power in itself, it is only the absence of Good.
God also said that the Israelites should not take more manna than they required daily, to trust in Him to provide each day's needs. And sure enough, if they did take more than a day's worth, it got stinky and rotten.
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Whether you're religious or not, isn't that a great metaphor? What IS the point of all this stuff we don't really need? It will just get stinky and rotten.
Clearing the shelves of sale items by extreme couponers/shoppers drives me crazy too. Someone in my town is doing this and when I find out who... I'll probably do nothing. Never fails though, great deal on tuna, pasta or sauce, other canned or dried goods and I can count on the store selling out in the first few days. Now I live in a small town, so I doubt there's a run on albacore. Some where in my town is a cheap food hoarder with tuna breath; I'll sniff 'em out.
KyPastor said... 46
In the Christian tradition our model prayer says "Give us this day our daily bread" which asks God to assure we have what we need, no more and no less.
God tells the crop growers of Israel to not harvest the outer rows of produce but to leave them for the hungry to harvest for themselves.
The concept of having only the amount you need and providing the poor with the rest is deeply rooted in the Judeochristian tradition.
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Amen. Never said better. God Bless KyPastor.
Extreme couponing is impressive but can be very selfish if there isn't enough for everyone. Those big packages of one-person sized chips goes on sale pretty rarely but when they do it's impossible to get one. I can just see people stocking up with a dozen of those for lunches. It's frustrating and unfair.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 50
I've always thought that people who constantly lust after stuff and things and the tangibles in life may just be trying to make up for something missing in the intangible part of their life. What's missing, TFW?
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A sense of self and a sense of self-worth.
LeeLee said... 53
I'll sniff 'em out.
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LOL! I don't envy you on that task! :) You go girl!
I've always thought that people who constantly lust after stuff and things and the tangibles in life may just be trying to make up for something missing in the intangible part of their life. What's missing, TFW?
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TFW's "bucket list" is exhausting. I get that people want to live life to the fullest, but to me, that's not taking lavish trips all over the earth.
It should be about personal achievements, not checking off the next destination you visit, the next restaurant you eat at or whatever material thing you gain.
TFW should have furthering her education on her list, as well as reaching out to her community and paying back what was given to her.
I can tell you that exploring TFW's selfish ways makes me check myself, and I think others here do the same. I know I could never be so selfish, self-involved and inwardly focused, but I've got work to do and in a weird way, I thank TFW for showing me where greed can lead any of us.
It is a cautionary tale. Perhaps Kate was never a devout Christian as she proclaimed to be (nor Jon, really), but if she was, she has strayed far from the path of righteousness.
LeeLee said... 53
Clearing the shelves of sale items by extreme couponers/shoppers drives me crazy too. Someone in my town is doing this and when I find out who... I'll probably do nothing
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"Well I oughta...."
Where I live, there's plenty of huge food markets but I'd imagine in a smaller town, it would drive me nuts!
LOL @ LeeLee, that cracked me up! Might not be the nicest of jobs, but, shouldn't be too difficult to sniff out the tuna hoarder.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 55
Extreme couponing is impressive but can be very selfish if there isn't enough for everyone
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It's like saying "here's your SNAP money, now go buy some beer". That's not what it's meant for!
It's abuse. Coupons are to help you, not feed you for free.
Same for these extreme couponers. It's a polite way to say hoarders and thieves. At least it was before coupon scan codes changed and these hoarders would plan and plot to get as much free loot as possible.
I'm all for lowering your grocery bill with coupons. I use them and take advantage of sales and store brands (mostly save money with store brands; coupons primarily are for highly processed food). But, they should not be abused or used to hoard the store's entire stock of items because you can, and leave nothing for anyone else.
The whole concept has always repulsed me.
In the end, when you pay 10% for your goods' full worth, guess who pays more?
Me, so screw you.
You might as well be a shoplifter.
I would like to clarify that I understand most
religions share the same moral and ethics code as Judaism and Christianity. Atheists and agnostics usually have a strong moral code as well. I do not intend to suggest Jews and Christians have cornered the market in that area. Forgive me if I have offended any here.
In the spirit of KyPastor's words, I'll share a story of a funeral I attended last month. This woman was very very poor, lived in govt assisted housing and struggled with debilitating schizophrenia. Her daughter told me that whenever she and her mother were out and they saw a coin on the ground her mother would tell her never to pick it up. She would say that there's always someone who needs it more than we do. I'm so grateful to the daughter for sharing that story and that her mother, poor as she was, taught me a new way to be generous.
Layla said...26
She can't help but grift, but she also lacks the insight to see what her reputation as a grifter is costing her. It's costing her what she wants most, which is a media career. That's a pretty high price for some toilet paper and gift cards.
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Yes, bravo, well said. Toilet paper and gift cards indeed. How petty has she become.
This is a wonderful topic of discussion. Thanks Admin.
Franky, one of your most insightful posts. TY
Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moths and vermin destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moths and vermin do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal.
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Another of my favorite passages that applies whether you are religious or not. Basically store up the intangible treasures, love and so on, don't hoard "stuff."
TFW stored up lots of things on Earth and what does she have to show for it? She needs a giant gated property and body guards to protect it all. What's the point if you have to worry about yourself and all your stuff all so much?
Those people who OD on extreme couponing, are greedy. What is the point of using coupons for stuff you do not use. The thrill of the hunt/hoard? My favorite one is the woman who bought cat food, treats, litter and they did not even have a cat. Her reason: it was free! I would not have anything against a person who was doing that for an animal shelter, a womens shelter, homeless shelter or soup kitchen, but to do it to display it in a room in your house to look like a store, not storage room is just greed/hoarder.
Just like taking the stuff from the hotel, when most hotels clean the rooms, they toss all that stuff, so if you take it, donate, you paid for it. Same with the rolls, at restaurants, if you don't take them, they get tossed. Better to take them then waste food. I see this at a lot of places, dig up plants, they don't move them or save them, they toss them, perfectly good plants. We are a very wasteful society.
handinhand (63) - What a beautiful story. Thank you for sharing it.
KyPastor - I don't think you could ever offend anyone. Bless you for sharing your thoughts. I'm so glad to see you are still here.
Admin - Thank you so much for this thought-provoking post.
The American mindset is very interesting to me in regards to possessions. Here, we have the thought that bigger is better. Therefore we "need" bigger cars, bigger houses and lots space for ourselves and our things (most of which we could do without!). In other countries, many families live quite happily in houses/spaces just a fraction of the size!
I admire people who work with charities to donate free/cheap things but those who take freebies and/or go crazy with coupons just to stash them at their house? I don't get it. I saw an episode of extreme couponing with a single lady who was stock piling diapers for her future children. Um, if I was dating her and saw all those diapers I would run for the hills!!
America IS quite interesting in terms of the big mac lifestyle. Maybe it's because our very roots started with just this massive country with so much land they gave it away for free at times. Europe makes you feel like a giant in a little person's house which is part of the culture shock. Everything is smaller. Even a really nice hotel several hundred American dollars a night is no bigger than a cheap hotel room. Portion sizes are smaller, bathrooms and closets are smaller, cars are smaller. It's interesting how you can adjust so rapidly to the big lifestyle and then when you try to do something else all of a sudden, it's a shock.
Does anyone remember quite awhile ago, a poster here telling us he/she would take 'extra' napkins from restaurants and use them in her car?
There was quite a discussion here about how that kind of thing isn't quite right.
Just because it's available, doesn't mean it should be taken.
. Europe makes you feel like a giant in a little person's house which is part of the culture shock. Everything is smaller. Even a really nice hotel several hundred American dollars a night is no bigger than a cheap hotel room
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Ha! Was just talking about this yesterday. You really need to understand that we are so spoiled here in America with hotels. Even the "value" brands such as Hampton Inn and Fairfield are palatial compared to the higher end hotels in Europe.
We get queen and king beds, a sitting area, nice bathroom with amenities, usually nice quality linens and free breakfast.
Europe? Not so much!
I was just watching a 60 minutes rerun on Bill Gates and his work in Africa. Talk about giving back... I admire that man so much!
And guess what? Bill Gates was able to buy Leonardo da Vinci's notebook for a gazillion dollars and I'm not even "jellus" of his wealth and lifestyle. First, he worked hard for what he has, secondly he is genuinely grateful for what life gave him and last lastly he gives back. In a BIG way!
TFW never worked hard in her life, -not even raising her own kids-, she never was grateful ( The curt "yes please" she wrote back to compagnies offering her freebies was one of the thing in RH's book that I found really offensive..) and she definitely is not giving back. Not even a Chipotle gift card.
How can one be 'jellus" of a life with so little real accomplishments?
jbranck1980 said... 68
The American mindset is very interesting to me in regards to possessions. Here, we have the thought that bigger is better. Therefore we "need" bigger cars, bigger houses and lots space for ourselves and our things (most of which we could do without!). In other countries, many families live quite happily in houses/spaces just a fraction of the size!
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One program I used to watch quite regularly before I got rid of TV was HGTV House Hunters International. It was really interesting to see how small family homes often were in many other countries. I felt embarrassed that in America we have to not only have BIG but NEW. It annoyed me to see young couples looking to buy their first home and turning up their noses if there were no granite counter tops and stainless appliances.
TFW baked her usual 8,888 cookies, and a fan asked:
Lisa @hermionejuliet 8m
@Kateplusmy8 what are they for?
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You gotta love those sheeple! Well, duh, you freeze them and then use them to plug the leaks in the dishwasher, don't you know?
How long before they absolutely need that recipe, and instructions on how to freeze cookies? :)
Some of her fans eat up her amazing baking project. If you divide by her two ovens, four trays a-piece it comes to about 2 hours of baking. Plus, don't any of her fans value humility? The bragging just turns me off.
White Organza said... 72
I was just watching a 60 minutes rerun on Bill Gates and his work in Africa. Talk about giving back... I admire that man so much!
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Just watched it too. Bill Gates is amazing and so is his wife? Does she look like a Barbie doll? No! She dresses classy, looks like herself, not some plasticized version of her former self.
She made it very clear that raising their 3 kids is her priority right now and nothing comes before it. Oh sure, she could have a nanny brigade, but she sounds very hands on.
saaammmmanntha @slowspine416 2m
@Kateplusmy8 can you please write a book on how to pack lunches? My second is starting school and I'm freaking out what to pack every day!!
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RealZiggyFlo @RealZiggyFlo 43s
@Kateplusmy8 Just read in my paper a day spa just opened less than a mile from me. Oh, this mom WILL be getting pedi's & massages, oh yes!
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Where do these people live? The moon?
Lots of people share on the interwebs what they are baking or whatnot and it's not usually irritating. But with Kate it's always framed with usually a blatant, look how amazing I am my kids told me how amazing look what I did. Followed by her fans saying you are amazing #1 mom you baked something omg! I agree, it's grating. Just say what you are up to and leave it at that. More humble, less brag.
It annoyed me to see young couples looking to buy their first home and turning up their noses if there were no granite counter tops and stainless appliances.
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Oh, gosh, Tweet. I used to watch that, too, and it drove me nuts. The whining, "I really wanted granite and stainless," or, "The bathroom needs to be totally gutted with above counter bowls and the floor tile doesn't match the tile in the shower" when there was absolutely nothing wrong with it the way it was.
Same thing with Yes To The Dress...those spoiled brides who had to have the most expensive gowns because they always got what they wanted, and even though Mom and Grandma were sitting there in tears because they couldn't afford it, they always gave in and figured out a way to buy the $12,000 gown to wear for six hours. The brides had absolutely no feelings whatsoever for them, even though they knew before they went to the salon that there was a budget.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 79
Lots of people share on the interwebs what they are baking or whatnot and it's not usually irritating. But with Kate it's always framed with usually a blatant, look how amazing I am my kids told me how amazing look what I did. Followed by her fans saying you are amazing #1 mom you baked something omg! I agree, it's grating. Just say what you are up to and leave it at that. More humble, less brag.
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Like this:
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 24 Jul
LOVE when I start out trying 2 fit 8 Rita's Ice in freezer...&end up cleaning/organizing entire thing while kids eat lunch! #accomplished
saaammmmanntha @slowspine416 2m
@Kateplusmy8 can you please write a book on how to pack lunches? My second is starting school and I'm freaking out what to pack every day!!
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lol, Tweet! Aren't they something? It's amazing that they manage to raise their kids without Kate's awesome school lunches. I'm surprised that the new moms don't ask her to write a book on how to change a diaper and what to do with the dirty ones! When you freak every day over what to put in a child's lunch, there's something very wrong!
saaammmmanntha @slowspine416 2m
@Kateplusmy8 can you please write a book on how to pack lunches? My second is starting school and I'm freaking out what to pack every day!!
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Then along comes Nikki and tells this person what Kate puts in her lunches:
Nikki @Nikki_C_Wilson 3m
@slowspine416 @Kateplusmy8: sandwich, veggie, something crunchy (pretzel/pcorn) cheese stick or yougurt, treat and drink (juice and water)
Nikki @Nikki_C_Wilson 2m
@slowspine416 @Kateplusmy8: I think that's what she says she puts in them. (From the b bag campaign she did) :)
There's something very odd about her baked goods photos. Yes, I looked. I'm always curious about her cooking.
If she baked all of that to put in her own freezer to dole out to the kids, why all the notes? She wrote 4 or more freezer tapes' worth of instructions on each bag. Bizarre. I understand writing the contents and date but why instructions on how to serve cookies? Maybe Katherine delivered them. Or maybe they're instructions to the kids: ONE cookie each. No more!
I always thought the little hotel bottles of shampoo, etc were tossed when you check out. Even if you hadn't used any.
But upon googlong it, it seems that most hotels only toss opened bottles, and leave the unopened bottles for the next guest.
My company has many, many people who travel a lot. Most people open one bottle, and bring home an unopened bottle, which they put in a bin we have here at work for such things. Once a month the bin contents are donated to a shelter. They do the same with the toothpaste and toothbrushes that you get from dentist at a cleaning.
A whole bunch of nice guys, eh? Not a 'gimme' guy in the whole bunch.
Marybeth Santos @MB244888 2m
@Kateplusmy8 this is probably a dumb ? But do you freeze them? Or will they get used right up?
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Shoot me, too!
No, she doesn't freeze them. Eight kids eat 700 cookies in less than a week. They have a real sugar rush going there.
Nikki @Nikki_C_Wilson 15m
@slowspine416 @Kateplusmy8: sandwich, veggie, something crunchy (pretzel/pcorn) cheese stick or yougurt, treat and drink (juice and water)
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Now Nikki is butting in and answering for Kate. I thought that was Milo's job as Chief Ewe. Uh, oh...Milo is not going to be happy.
Blowing In The Wind said... 80
Oh, gosh, Tweet. I used to watch that, too, and it drove me nuts. The whining, "I really wanted granite and stainless," or, "The bathroom needs to be totally gutted with above counter bowls and the floor tile doesn't match the tile in the shower" when there was absolutely nothing wrong with it the way it was.
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The bathrooms they wanted!! Egads. 15 shower heads and room for 12. LOL It's a shower, take one then get out and dry off. I wonder how much water is wasted using those deluxe showers? And to think people go into huge debt to get this stuff.
Maybe it's just me, but I would have waited until closer to the start of school to have baked all that. The longer baked goods sit in a freezer, the more tasteless/freezer burned they become.
Lisa @hermionejuliet 8m
@Kateplusmy8 what are they for?
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Are they really that dumb, or do they just want them to tweet them with an answer...anything to get her to notice them?
saaammmmanntha @slowspine416 2m
@Kateplusmy8 can you please write a book on how to pack lunches? My second is starting school and I'm freaking out what to pack every day!!
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this is equal parts ridiculous and sad. Did this person never go to school herself, and have packed lunches? Honestly - it's actually quite simple.
First - know your own child's likes and dislikes. If your child is like my son, he won't want a banana in his lunch, but would like a small container of strawberries or grapes. A sandwich of some kind, or perhaps a bagel with cream cheese. Or perhaps a simple wrap made from flour tortilla, sliced meat, lettuce and cheese. A bottle of water, a few cookies, and a baggie of pretzels, chips or crackers.
I don't understand why any parent would freak out over packing their child a lunch. Pick items your child would like to eat, that are also healthy mixed with a little something sweet for a dessert.
No one should need an entire book devoted to school lunches.
Bonnie Rivera Salas @SalasBonnie 8m
@Kateplusmy8 what do you use them for? Snacks? Recipes pls???
Pretty Bird @Pretty_Bird_0 5m
@SalasBonnie @Kateplusmy8 She uses them for pavers on the patio, darling.
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I'm sorry but bwaaaahaaaahaaaa.
Pretty Bird @Pretty_Bird_0 5m
@SalasBonnie @Kateplusmy8 She uses them for pavers on the patio, darling.
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I'm sorry but bwaaaahaaaahaaaa.
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Good gawd...that's the second one who asked what they are for! What the heck?
Anonymous said... 5
Great Topic. Someone said, can't remember who, that "Debt is the modern form of slavery"
I firmly believe that. I also firmly believe in taking what you need, and leaving the rest for others.
I am not financially rich, but I am financially free. Besides, the only thing we take with us are our memories, our true legacy we leave behind is how people remember us. Money can't buy that.
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This whole topic is on point for me.
My daughter's old car died and she found another one with 100K miles--which was 100K miles less than the last one had on it!
Her grandmother offered to pay for the new car, but my daughter felt she should pay her own way. She did borrow the cash (in the form of a cashier's check) from her grandma and will make payments to her grandmother's account.
Here's the kicker. We took the cashier's check for $8,000 to the dealer.
Guess who is looked at as a potential terrorist or drug lord? Guess who is considered suspicious? NOT THE ONES BORROWING.
My daughter and I had to give our social security numbers and all kinds of personal information so the Federal government could confirm we were "honest" because we did not borrow. The salesman gave each of us forms and told us we would have to fill them out completely so the government could check on WHY we had cash.
Debt the new slavery? It must be. The bookkeeper actually floundered in figuring out our paperwork because "no one ever pays cash." This completely floored me, I have to say.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 15m
@Kateplusmy8 @iAmTheWiseOne No matter where life takes you, always pack a positive attitude. :)
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To borrow from Tweet --
I'm sorry but bwaaaahaaaahaaaa.
Milo's been on a daily tweet loaded with negativity about Jon, and she has the balls to send out this platitude? And Sandie was laughing at the hypocrisy of the haters?
Cathy schwenk @Ceschwenk 13m
@Kateplusmy8 what's a wh pie??
Whoopi, as in Goldberg!!
Admin said:
I think debt is one of the BIGGEST problems we are facing today. Culturally it's become acceptable and this is a very bad thing. People have also been priced out of things like homes and education such that they have no choice.
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I came to this realization a few years ago Admin, and decided I would get rid of all credit cards. It was a very painful difficult process, and I even took money out of my retirement fund to pay some of them off. Then living on just what I earned, and learning to save for bigger items was tough too. I had become accustomed to putting stuff on credit if I couldn't pay for it at the moment.
The first hard lesson I learned and relearned was that I had been living beyond my means for years.
One time, my hairdryer broke and I didn't have money in that two-week budget to buy a new one. Thankfully, it was winter so I would wash my hair and then lean over the heater vent to air dry it. Then I was able to put $20 into the next bi-monthly budget for a new hair dryer and cut back on the grocery budget a bit.
My only debt is my mortgage, but that will be paid off in 4 years. Although it's not easy to have to wait for certain things (right now I'm saving for a new bed), I enjoy searching out deals or buying an item that has been gently used for much less than the same item would cost brand new. Plus, I cannot overstate how good it feels not to receive credit card bills in the mail anymore. Just the regular bills for phone, electricity, garbage, etc.
SeeSaw said... 84
If she baked all of that to put in her own freezer to dole out to the kids, why all the notes? She wrote 4 or more freezer tapes' worth of instructions on each bag. Bizarre. I understand writing the contents and date but why instructions on how to serve cookies? Maybe Katherine delivered them. Or maybe they're instructions to the kids: ONE cookie each. No more!
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I don't get all the notes either. I see some note about open the bag with scissors along the line...she surely isn't writing the notes for herself.
saaammmmanntha @slowspine416 2m
@Kateplusmy8 can you please write a book on how to pack lunches? My second is starting school and I'm freaking out what to pack every day!!
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Way did you pack for your first? I assume that he/she didn't starve because TFW didn't tell you what to pack. If all else fails (and if you really are that clueless) get your child(ren) enrolled in the hot lunch program.
At least Kate managed to get a plug in for her cookbook. She hasn't tweeted about that for over a week.
One thing I noticed-there are no dates on any of the bags or containers. Will she remember when she baked them?
Oh wait...she doesn't need to date them, she can just check her twitter to see what date she tweeted the picture.
You seriously need to write directions to cut open the package? Thank goodness she wrote that or some poor inept nanny might be trying to tear into the airtight packaging with her teeth just to get the poor kids their cookies.
Those instructions are probably for the kids. Aren't they the ones who pack the lunches?
School doesn't start for a month, and she's done her back-to-school baking already? Why the rush? They'll be freezer burned by the time school starts. Do we dare hope that she's getting all this done early so she can take the kids on vacation? That would be nice. I just can't see preparing food that's not going to be used for an entire month unless there's not going to be time to do it later. Still, even if she takes them to the beach for a week, there are plenty of days left for baking. She makes no sense at all.
I think the reason that TFW values her possessions so much is because she seeks afirmation and validation from her 'things' rather than from other people.
The only person I ever saw her seek validation from was Steve. She frequently sought affirmation for how 'cute/funny' she was from someone off camera...I always thought it was the production crew, but maybe that, too, was Steve.
Written instructions to cut on the dotted line? Sounds like something commercially packaged, not home processed.
I can't think of any storage bags that have pre-printed dotted lines.
Virginia Pen Mom said... 94
I don't understand why the dealer had you fill out all that paper work because you gave him a cashier's check. The only transaction that I can think of that would require that is if you purchased the car with actual cash(not a check) and the amount was over $10,000. That type of transaction would require them to fill out a Currency Transaction Report to be filed with the IRS.
But for an $8000 check? It doesn't make any sense to me. I used to work in a bank, and I don't know of any government rule that would require that for a check. Did you ask the dealer why it was necessary?
Millicent said... 96
My only debt is my mortgage, but that will be paid off in 4 years. Although it's not easy to have to wait for certain things (right now I'm saving for a new bed), I enjoy searching out deals or buying an item that has been gently used for much less than the same item would cost brand new. Plus, I cannot overstate how good it feels not to receive credit card bills in the mail anymore. Just the regular bills for phone, electricity, garbage, etc.
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Same here Millicent. I don't use credit cards. I have an emergency fund that is used ONLY for emergencies (which I had to dip in to for a new radiator for my car on Wed.) My home is paid off, and I have one loan with very low interest that I'm paying off now. I hang my laundry on a clothesline to dry, use an oscillating fan instead of turning on the a/c, stopped with the highlighting and let my hair go natural, got rid of TV of course, etc. Property taxes are my most costly expenditure which I have to save for throughout the year.
@Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) In regards too the millionaire with the bin full of samples...Do you know how many people that would make happy at a local food bank? Those could have been put in baggies and handed to people that can't afford soap, shampoo, toothpaste, toothbrushes and mouthwash. I know that when I finally went into menopause and had boxes of unused sanitary products, I shyly asked a small food bank if they could use them.
They were thrilled to get them. They said "You don't know how many women ask if we have any and
we have to say NO." Think before you throw out those unopened packages, a few phone calls and I am sure you will find someone or somewhere that can use it!
Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said... 95
''I don't get all the notes either. I see some note about open the bag with scissors along the line...she surely isn't writing the notes for herself.''
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Well now, isn't that interesting? Do you think that Kathleen baked the cookies and the notes are for TFW, or do you think TFW baked them and the notes are for the not a Nannies? My choice is that TFW did NOT bake the cookies because there is not a single photo of baking in progress...something TFW has always done!
I also cut up my credit cards about four years back and never looked back. I hear this more and more these days. I have never missed them, what a load off my shoulders.
Virginia that is just scary that all cash is looked at like something must be up. Horrible. How about impressed that you saved the money up and had the patience to wait until you had it?
Watching 60 Minutes now here. Once in awhile a commercial is very moving and I thought the Chevy commercial featuring various dads with their sons doing things like baseball or taking them out to a beautiful canyon was a really sweet tribute to fatherhood. Nice to see that special relationship honored.
Virginia Pen Mom-I thought what that dealer did sounded fishy. Here are the IRS guidelines when buying a car with a cashiers check. It applies to transactions over $10,000 which of course, yours was not. But even if it was over $10,000 no report would have to be filed:
"The purchase of a vehicle with a cashier's check, bank draft, traveler's check or money order with a face amount of more than $10,000 is not treated as cash and a business does not have to file Form 8300 when it receives them."
http://www.irs.gov/Businesses/Small-Businesses-&-Self-Employed/Report-of-Cash-Payments-Over-$10,000-Received-in-a-Trade-or-Business---Motor-Vehicle-Dealership-Q&As
But--I did find another article which may explain why they asked you for that info and it had nothing to do with the government. Apparently, some dealers ask all that info so that they can run a credit report on you, even if you're not financing with them. Interesting article:
http://www.edmunds.com/car-buying/car-dealership-credit-report-scams-and-the-patriot-act.html
The dealer had no right to ask you for that information.
Reminds me of the time I started to become friendly with a disabled woman. Then I heard her bragging to a group about the 5 free wheelchairs she had gotten, and I already knew she was selling one of her 2 current electric wheelchairs on Craigslist. It really bothered me and I had to step away from the friendship. I believe it was immoral of her to sell for cash what she had been given. Perhaps some deserving person did not get an electric wheelchair because the organization that gave it to her only had one to give away that year. And to work the system to get more than you need, then sell it for cash...it just threw me for a loop. I would never even consider doing such a thing.
What's funny is we really should be more suspicious of people buying expensive cars with NO money down. If you can't even bring in a few thousand to the table you probably shouldn't be financing.
Instead we're suspicious of all cash deals.
Oh my word-this is from someone who says she's a mother of 3. Questions like this from teens I can understand, but from grownups?
Emily Carson @Emcarson121 24m
@Kateplusmy8 do you freeze it all and take it out as you need it? How long will that batch last?
Isn't that what a freezer is mainly used for? To preserve food until the time comes when you need it? What else would you use a freezer for?
Very interesting topic, admin. KY pastor, the sermon at our church this am was about prayer and asking for what you need, and then bringing up the prosperity preachers who imply that if you don't get all the monetary things you want them you must not be praying enough. The point of the sermon was that you may not get what you want, but you will get what you need, if you ask God. (Our minister is a big Rolling Stones fan).
He also quoted from a recent book, I cannot remember the female authors name, but it was a book about prayer. And that all prayers can be put into three broad categories: thanks, help, or WOW! It was an interesting and new way to think about prayer for me.
Emily Carson @Emcarson121 24m
@Kateplusmy8 do you freeze it all and take it out as you need it? How long will that batch last?
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I don't think I've ever seen so many dumb questions in one day.
I drove a lot this weekend, going to beach and visiting family and running errands. I listened to an interview an Entertainment Weekly editor did with one of the producers of Pawn Stars on the History Channel. He was on a trip to Las Vegas with a friend, passed a pawn shop, and started talking about how interesting it could be to see what came in and hear stories about things. He said ”I told my production assistant to find the pawn shop with the most fun people.” He said they got really lucky finding the shop featured on the show, since there are three generations working there and each with their own personality and interests.
Note, he did not say they were looking for the greediest or best looking or most obnoxious or demanding people. The most FUN people.
also he said they purposely do not deal with the personal lives of the stars except in a very superficial way. And none of the stuff is planted, they just film what comes inn. They do a lot of work in editing, because they match items that seem to go together, and not necessarily in chronological order. They have well over 200 episodes and expect to go to 350.
WalktheTalk, yes! I work at a food bank and we package those hotel toiletries into packets because we serve quite a few homeless clients. Those 'on the go' packets of soap, shampoo/conditioner, lotion, wipes, chapstick, hand sanitizer, etc., really help them. A new client told me that the jail calls them indigent packages. That made me gulp and I had to reassure him we don't see him that way at all but he just kept laughing and saying that's what he got in jail. As Phil from Duck Dynasty would say, "Heeee!"
Also, we get half-used boxes of feminine products, diapers, Depends, etc., and we repackage them into quantities to give away, i.e., 8 diapers, 10 maxi pads, etc. People are so relieved when they're available.
Thanks for pointing out another resource that people can easily contribute towards, even if it's things they took from a hotel or a few items picked up at the drugstore or dollar store. Toothpaste and deodorant are also very popular and readily available for $1.
We recently went to the drugstore for toothpaste and I asked the clerk, "Am I seeing that right? 50 cents?" Sure enough. It was 'special' toothpaste that got discontinued (we can see why, who pays $8.49 for toothpaste?) and they were offloading it all. My husband wanted to take it ALL. We needed a couple tubes and he wanted to donate the rest. We had a big argument in the aisle (you know, when you whisper-yell through clenched teeth, LOL) and I said we needed to leave some for others who NEED that bargain. So we took 18 and there was still a lot left for others, probably about 40. I thought of Kate cleaning out those shelves previously and I just hate that mentality. Now if someone who is struggling took every tube because they know it'll last a long time, that's different. But when someone is just enjoying the bargain and can afford to do whatever they want, it's selfish. I felt weird taking 18 but it's all gone already.
Those hoarders - I can't watch those extreme couponing shows. I see the rack systems they build in their basements or whatever and just want to cry. All those toiletries and detergents, paper products, and cleaning products just sitting there. THOSE are the things people often go without. Don't even get me started on their 400 cans of soup or whatever. They really should donate it. Keep doing what they do and then give it away. I saw one guy who did just that but most of them hang on to it like millions of little trophies. It's sad.
I don't think I've ever seen so many dumb questions in one day.
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It's always seem to be the frozen cookies that brings out the dumb in them. Do you really think that these people are serious, or just snarking? I remember some time ago where posters here were chastised for calling the sheeple "stupid" or "dumb."
You know, if the shoe fits. I don't know how else you'd describe them, except extremely slow on the uptake!
NJGal, I love your avatar pic!
Virginia Pen Mom-I thought what that dealer did sounded fishy. Here are the IRS guidelines when buying a car with a cashiers check. It applies to transactions over $10,000 which of course, yours was not. But even if it was over $10,000 no report would have to be filed:
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I bought a new car with cash (cashier's check) for much, much more than $10,000 and the only information they wrote down was the info on my driver's license, phone number and insurance information...not a SS number or anything else. If they had, I would have been very suspicious and refused to give it. There's no reason they would have needed it. They didn't even call the bank to verify the validity of the check.
@MsPamme: @Kateplusmy8 long time no tweet. Just pre ordered ur book, are you donating some profits to a charity? Happy baking :).
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I'm going to take a wild guess and say that Kate will not be answering this question.
Joy said
The point of the sermon was that you may not get what you want, but you will get what you need, if you ask God. (Our minister is a big Rolling Stones fan).
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That made me smile. :)
TFW aka KK has no shame she loves to grift and she loves the word free.
This is the same woman that grifts toilet paper and gift bags why should she stop at gift cards?
It's all about me with TFW aka kk and no one else matters no even the kids or family.
KarenShireman @KarenShireman 57m
@Kateplusmy8 Just stocking up? What is your filling for the oatmeal creme sandwiches?
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Lemon meringue. Doesn't everyone fill their oatmeal cookies with lemon meringue?
Sleepless In Seattle said... 117
I don't think I've ever seen so many dumb questions in one day.
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It's always seem to be the frozen cookies that brings out the dumb in them. Do you really think that these people are serious, or just snarking?
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The frozen cookies and the salads really seem to throw them for a loop. Not sure if they're serious or just want a tweet or they're...well, not too bright.
Why thank you Joy! We both seem to be beach girls.
I don't understand why TFW can't or won't bake fresh cooikes wkly.
It's not like she has a job she could bake fresh cookies and breads w/her free nine hours.
The frozen cookies and the salads really seem to throw them for a loop. Not sure if they're serious or just want a tweet or they're...well, not too bright.
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I still remember the one who asked Kate what to do with the first egg her chicken laid. She wanted to know if it was safe to eat. Kate never answered, so I wonder what ever happened with that egg.
There was also someone asking Kate how to protect their chickens from predators. Her chickens were being attacked by hawks.
Why do these think Kate is an expert, just because she has chickens? Didn't Kate once say that Shoka killed some of their chickens? She's the last person to ask a question like that.
Those hoarders - I can't watch those extreme couponing shows. I see the rack systems they build in their basements or whatever and just want to cry. All those toiletries and detergents, paper products, and cleaning products just sitting there
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I always thought they were happier with the way they had it all perfectly stacked, in perfect rows, than they were in the actual products. Who can get excited about 43 bottles of mustard?
But having those yellow bottles lined up with the little red tops looks artistic in an Andy Worhol kind of way.
RE: TFW's cookie picture. The cookies look too perfectly round to be her work. She is a glom and drop kind of baker, all speed and no finesse.
But the labels look to be all hers - the cookie bags are to be cut evenly with scissors. Who else would include the word "evenly"? Even getting a cookie requires micromanaging.
Funny we're discussing freebies. A big ad popped up here for free laundry detergent. Think "they" read our posts? ;)
The frozen cookies and the salads really seem to throw them for a loop. Not sure if they're serious or just want a tweet or they're...well, not too bright.
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I'm waiting for one of them to ask if Kate freezes her salads.
I also cut up my credit cards about four years back and never looked back. I hear this more and more these days. I have never missed them, what a load off my shoulders.
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I did the same thing and don't miss them. I use my debit card for hotel reservations, theater tickets, etc., but no credit cards. I bought a Christmas gift with cash (about $100) and the gal at the register just looked at me. Seems like she never saw cash before, and had a problem counting it.
TFW sucks all the fun out of cookies. You can't even eat a damn snickerdoodle without reading the magna carta first.
RE: TFW's cookie picture. The cookies look too perfectly round to be her work. She is a glom and drop kind of baker, all speed and no finesse.
But the labels look to be all hers - the cookie bags are to be cut evenly with scissors. Who else would include the word "evenly"? Even getting a cookie requires micromanaging.
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"Glom and drip." Too funny. I missed the word "evenly." Good grief. The poor person who has do do the cutting and opening will be a nervous wreck.
Didn't Kate tweet a couple of times she was getting less controlling? I don't theeenk so.
Why does Kate always tweet the number of cookies and other stuff she bakes. This time it was 673-I wonder who gets the extra one. The last time it was 432.
I guess the ones asking the dumb questions never read her blog at the Stir. She had a whole post about baking cookies, and how she freezes them.
I meant "glom and drop."
You can get that perfectly round look if you use the slice and bake store bought dough. Hmmmm
vtweedie @LStoremski 8m
@Kateplusmy8 WOW!!!how long did that take to bake. How long will it last?
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Most likely until they are all eaten.
PW had a pretty good weekend with cookbook orders, around 2,000 sold. Kate, you ask? 0 It's been two days and 4 hours since she sold a book.
Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said... 133
''You can get that perfectly round look if you use the slice and bake store bought dough. Hmmmm''
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BINGO! I do believe you have answered the question about why no photos of the baking in progress, with flour and pots and pans all over the place. There is no flour and bowls of cookie mix involved when you're slicing tubes of store bought dough!
I still remember the one who asked Kate what to do with the first egg her chicken laid. She wanted to know if it was safe to eat. Kate never answered, so I wonder what ever happened with that egg.
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It's probably propped up on the window sill, waiting for Kate's answer. I guess, though, Kate just didn't know how to help her.
Maybe she took a photo of it, being the first egg and all. Kind of like the kids' first poops.
Just went to read TFW's twitter TL and saw this response to the baking tweet:
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@Kateplusmy8 Miam Miam nothing like mom's threats in the linch box!!
LOL What perfect typos!
Zoe said... 143
Just went to read TFW's twitter TL and saw this response to the baking tweet:
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@Kateplusmy8 Miam Miam nothing like mom's threats in the linch box!!
LOL What perfect typos!
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Where else can we find more laughs than on TFW's Twitter? Of course everyone here adds their own quips. It's great entertainment. Thank you all :)
Tweet-I do have to commend Kate's tweeties on one thing. There were a lot of "Wow"'s but not one of them said "Woah".
So despite her tweeting a picture of her baking results, not one person order her cookbook. Guess that promo plan didn't work out for her.
I thought that she was supposed to be sharing some recipes that were not in the book. That's what the PR release about the book said.
All she's been doing is posting old pictures of the kids, and tweeting a picture of her baked goods.
TFW baked all those cookies today because she needed to take the pictures of the product for her cook book.
And I think she tweeted about the gift card, because some fan sent it to her, she couldnt remember who, but wanted to let them know that someone had given it...remember, everyome is a "friend" if she is getting something from you that she wants. The more you give, the better he "friend" you are...
Oh My.. Threats in the linch box.....
I am so glad I did not have any of my drink in my mouth as I think it might have come out my nose!!!!!
..oops, I almost had my own very embarrassing typo in the above sentence.. you figure it out ... ha ha how embarrassing THAT would have been :)
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@Kateplusmy8 Miam Miam nothing like mom's threats in the linch box!!
LOL!!! I get the threats in the linch box, but what is Miam Miam?
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@Kateplusmy8 my kids have summer hw that is sent home by the teacher
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Dang! That's a new one. I thought summer homework was sent home by the cafeteria employees!
Joy in Virginia said..
thanks, help, or WOW!
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That is the title of Anne Lamott's most recent book about prayer. Hope your pastor gave her credit! She is a terrific writer. She is a recovering addict that writes in a stream of consciousness style, about her personal experiences and struggles with faith. She is very funny and irreverent about religion. That book is a very quick read and she narrates the Audible version.
Admin, great post!
I don't generally watch the extreme couponing shows because I find it kind of like rubbernecking on the highway after an accident has happened. And frankly, the coupons are usually for products that I don't buy anyway, so unless I want to try it out, I feel it's wasting my money to buy something I don't need/wouldn't use. I also tend to buy generic/store brand and I find that's often times cheaper then the name brands even with the coupon. The trick is to look at the per unit price on the price tag and compare that to similar products. That tells you if you're really saving or not.
What I did find admirable about the Extreme Couponing shows were those people who did know how to coupon but who turned around and kept only what they needed and donated the rest to their local food pantry/food bank. That, to me, is someone who understands how to use coupons for the greater good.
These tweets have GOT to be pulling TFW's leg.
Seriously. I don't buy that they are legit.
Somebody's having a good time with it.
See, I can do it too.
@TFWplusherkids, how do u freeze ur rice krispie treats? for how long?
@TFWplusherkids, do u store ur paper towels standing up or lying down? what abt ur bath tissue?
@TFWplusherkids, do you have a good recipe for mesquite charcoal briquettes?
PJ's Mom> those extreme couponers> forget, that all products have an expiration date, chemicals break down, so all this having 50 jars of say ketchup or even bleach, they breakdown after a time. Buying a 3-5 year supply, I do hope they are reading the expiration dates, cause bleach breaks down and is no longer a strong cleaning stuff, the longer it sits. Other stuff like food loses its flavor.
To the person who donated the pads, thanks, I now know where to donate, adult diapers.
As for TFW, baking cookies, make the dough and freeze it, or gee, TFW, you have all day to bake, kids gone about 9 hours during school time. Or as someone here sugested, she is getting ready to go on a trip, didn't she do something like that last year, baked, and then went on trip?
Makes one wonder what TFW puts on her taxes for business expenses> let's see> looking for job, travel for job looking, clothing for job, hair/tan/nails(she will find a way to put on taxes) for job interviews. Surfing web for jobs. ETC?
Oh, is it me or does TFW newer fans, seem stupid or totally clueless, about simple, common things. They certainly ask very stupid, DUH questions. They are laughable.
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Here is a golden opportunity for TFW (that effin' wife) to do something nice for someone that cannot afford food.
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I was thinking about this. If I could easily afford to take some of my kids out to eat a few times a week and I had a gift card, I'd take a look around the restaurant to see if there was a family there who might really need to use the card. Or, I'd wait outside the restaurant for a few minutes, watch for a family to go in, give them the card, tell them to enjoy their meal, and then leave. No fanfare. I certainly wouldn't tweet that I had a gift card. Who does that? Unless, of course the card came from the restaurant in return for promoting them.
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How would you decide which family "really needed" the card? I'm sorry, but I would be offended if a stranger did that to me, not grateful. It's incredibly patronizing. "Oh, you look too poor to afford the meal. Allow me to buy it for you because I am so noble."
Like many here...I donate the soaps,lotion,shampoo and conditioner I get from my hotel to my local food pantry. I paid dearly to stay there...I don't feel bad for taking them.
TFW feels that she is owed this.Just showing up entitles her to everything. We should be so blessed she was there. The normal person gets 1 shampoo,conditioner,soap, and lotion a day. But I'm sure TFW asks for them times 8. She is a pig...a greedy pig.
As for summer hw...its not demanded. I do make my kids read 4 books over the summer...but thats it. Summer vacation is just that...a Vacation. if my kids had learning issues I would do more...but they don't...so summer vacation is just that.
I do believe TFW is full of shit...like thats anything new.
I don't know if TFW baked those cookies or not, and I can understand labeling them with the date, but instructions how to cut open the bag???? I believe this is for the benefit of the kids when they pack their lunches. If you cut open the bag unevenly, you may not be able to reseal it completely. No adult would need instruction. I don't believe she packs their lunches....just like her buzzillion egg breakfasts she supposedly cooks every morning. The kids probably fix cereal every morning.
These fans actually think this lawsuit is going forward and even seem to think the "defendants" have been notified of the suit or something:
DWTS Daddy! @EmeraldCityJazz 8h
@msgoody2shoes21 @ashymama2 Goody, how would I know what their lawsuit is about? They're your friends. lol
MsGoody2Shoes21 @msgoody2shoes21 8h
@EmeraldCityJazz @ashymama2 Aren't you being sued?
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DWTS Daddy! @EmeraldCityJazz 7h
@msgoody2shoes21 @ashymama2 No. For what? lol
MsGoody2Shoes21 @msgoody2shoes21 7h
@EmeraldCityJazz @ashymama2 I thought you are a defendant
From August 2012 "Culture Wars Reporters" article referring to TLC as THAT LOUSY CHANNEL:
So let’s review what we have here. A channel whose programming is centered almost exclusively on whites, with a majority of its programs centered on “abnormal” families and individuals, presented not for any educational or instructive value, but for your entertainment, demonstrating TLC’s complete and utter contempt for both the “stars” of its shows and for you as an audience. And the rotten, mildewed cherry on top of this bilge-pie is that the entirety of TLC’s programs are presented with this veneer of tolerance and understanding, so they can pass off their twisted side-show as somehow healthy and admirable. At least when the circuses advertised a chance to see the wolf-boy or bearded woman, they were up-front about it.
PJ's Mama-I got breast cancer and went into menopause, right after buying a jumbo pack of tampons. (This was the least of my worries, seriously...) But since it was opened, I wasn't sure what to do with them. It seemed wasteful to throw them away. Now I know! Thanks! (Those things get expensive when you don't have two dimes to rub together.)
I do so hope those dumb Twitter questions are mocking Kate. I kind of think that has to be it.
In our local paper...
http://www.pottsmerc.com/article/20130728/LIFE01/130729397/jon-gosselin-talks-about-life-since-jon-and-kate-plus-8
The kids' school doesn't start until August 28 but Kate makes it sound like it begins next week. I bet she is counting the hours until the kids are out of the house, lol.
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Heh...heh...heh...
Will TFW donate some of her book profits to a charity?
Don't hold your breath.
Ha ha, this is a good one. A fan of Kate tweeted this to her:
colleen campbell @callerbabe 12h
@Kateplusmy8 On Friday Ashley & I were @ K-days all day{11hrs}-my feet are still sore tonight!Your baking is yummy too,Kate!
I really hope this sheeple was not being serious, and only tweeted this to poke the haters:
Stash @stashcache 26m
@callerbabe @Kateplusmy8 Great news! A witness who can verify Kate's cookie baking skills and an Ashley visit, too! Haters will go nuts!
The K-days that the first tweeter mentioned is a fair in Edmonton, Canada. Ashley is her daughter. Did the sheeple really think this person was at Kate's house, and Ashley is Kate's Ashley?
At least Kate's timeline can be good for a laugh or two.
Ex nurse, yes my pastor did name the author but I could not remember. It sounds good, I will put it on my reading list. I should edit my post to say my pastor is a big fan of Ann Lamott and the Rolling Stones!
If I find I have an extra big coupon in a store and it will expire before I need it, I always offer it to the person behind me if they have a heavy load. No one has ever been offended. I think everyone likes to save a few dollars. Would give it to a person really in need but on the spur of the moment, I know most of us can use those big $10 off coupons at check-out.
@callerbabe: @Kateplusmy8 On Friday Ashley & I were @ K-days all day{11hrs}-my feet are still sore tonight!Your baking is yummy too,Kate!
@stashcache: @callerbabe @Kateplusmy8 Great news! A witness who can verify Kate's cookie baking skills and an Ashley visit, too! Haters will go nuts!
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OK Stash, I really don't think that this is a credible witness. The Ashley she's talking about is not the former babysitter judging by her other tweets. I think it's her child. K-Days is some event that they were going to (not Kate's house) and she also tweeted the President, Jack Osburn, The Talk, Dr Phil, Amy Roloff, Amy Dugger, etc. to tell them about it and the water spray park they went to. I'm sure she meant to tell Kate that her baking "looks" yummy
Nice try with your "witness", but I'm laughing up my sleeve right now!
Twit - Great minds think alike. I just posted basically the same thing and then your post popped up. Unfortunately I think this particular sheeple is serious as she's always vying for attention from TFW.
NJGal51-Even if she was serious, it made me laugh out loud. And the sheeple say WE have have problems with reading comprehension.
In the meantime, Goody is sharpening her math skills, figuring out the number of cookies per a kid that Kate baked.
You really can't make this stuff up.
Formerly Duped, I do the same and offer coupons to those in line if I don't need them.
Back to Kate, I think she spends her days "masterminding" how to stop Robert's book and stop Jon from splitting up the kids. If she were to lose some to Jon, then she'd have no bragging rights to being supermom of 8. Jon's interview sounded credible to me. His kids are definitely old enough to articulate which parent they want to live with. I hope he does get a good job to have the means to raise some of them and afford a decent attorney.
Isn't it interesting that TLC footed her attorney bills for the divorce and now she has aligned herself with BV's porn attorney? Gotta wonder what kind of deal she got.
@callerbabe: @Kateplusmy8 On Friday Ashley & I were @ K-days all day{11hrs}-my feet are still sore tonight!Your baking is yummy too,Kate!
@stashcache: @callerbabe @Kateplusmy8 Great news! A witness who can verify Kate's cookie baking skills and an Ashley visit, too! Haters will go nuts!
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They're starting up again, so early? LOL I don't think the majority of questions to TFW are a joke. I think her fans are just not, um, deep thinkers!!
I do have to say though, that tweet from the fan whose chicken produced its first egg and the fan wondered what she should do with it, I do hope that was a joke, otherwise that's scary stupid.
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From August 2012 "Culture Wars Reporters" article referring to TLC as THAT LOUSY CHANNEL:
"And the rotten, mildewed cherry on top of this bilge-pie...."
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Some people just have a way with words. LOL That's TLC alright, a big stinking bilge-pie.
School starts in a month, a month. Unless you plan to be away the last few weeks, oh maybe at your beach house, the weekend of school shopping and cookie baking is just nutso. Unless you want to give that impression you'll be away. TFW - it's all about the faux. Or she is just hoping school will open early, in her head.
In a house of 7 growing up we did not have written instructions on how to get a cookie. I fear with TFW there will be at least one incident of accessing the cookies incorrectly, turning what should have been a loving and nurturing act(baking treats) into an episode of control and guilt.
I never counted cookies, and I don't believe my Mother did either. If she did it was in her head and not announced. TFW way of baking/cooking seems to be all about, "Look what I did, are you impressed? I have counted my doses of love and they come to exactly 673." I don't think most Parents think that way, I honestly don't. I think a more appropriate title to her book would be "Control is in The Mix."
"what is Miam Miam?" (148)
"Miam miam" is french equivalent to "yum-yum"... Funny how onomatopee can differ so much from one language to another. An english dog goes bow-wow, a french dog goes ouah-ouah; an english rooster goes cock-a-doodle-doo and a french one goes cocorico. And Kate Gosselin in any langage is nutso mother from hell... (I know: it's not an onomatopea. It just made me feel good writing it.)
@stashcache: @callerbabe @Kateplusmy8 Great news! A witness who can verify Kate's cookie baking skills and an Ashley visit, too! Haters will go nuts!
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A witness? One who was at the house watching the cookie frenzy? One who didn't sign a C/A? Deanna? Milo? Irish Creeper?
The dumb cooking baking questions have resumed...
Hannah Frederiksen @HannahMaree27
@Kateplusmy8 how do you keep all the food fresh?
I thought Goody goes for months without mentioning Jon. She's at it again already today, with the child support nonsense,
An interesting thought about credibility.
Jon & TFW both sounded credible enough in the beginning. Then the lies started, and something just felt 'off'. Credible, not so much. That went on for a while.
Then Jon decided he couldn't say the lies anymore, and that's when we saw him fading away, melting into chair, saying nothing.
Then he had his months of craziness, and TFW's lies got even more outrageous.
Then TFW got her own show and there wasn't *any* effort put into credibility. Authenticity and credibility on her part were gone, never to return, if they were ever even there to start with.
Jon, on the other hand, after his months of craziness, has the ring of truth. Something TFW has never heard of.
MsGoody2Shoes21 @msgoody2shoes21 19s
@Pretty_Bird_0 @Kateplusmy8 Humor? I don't think do. I'm not a vulgar person nor do I use sexual innuendo when tweeting about Kate.
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But she does with Jon.
No one here is doing any school shopping yet, everyone is waiting to do our shopping on during the tax free weekend. Guess PA doesn't do that? School supplies and clothes all tax free. And I haven't even thought about school lunches. Too busy enjoying summer and having my kids and kids friends around. That's the saddest thing. Kate could be out with her kids, enjoying a picnic in the park, a summer festival, the fair, the pool, summer camp, etc. Instead she is inside allegedly "baking" a ton of cookies she doesn't need and counting down the days til she is free of her kids. Sad.
In the meantime, Goody is sharpening her math skills, figuring out the number of cookies per a kid that Kate baked.
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She can do long division?
MsGoody2Shoes21 @msgoody2shoes21
@Pretty_Bird_0 @RealZiggyFlo @Kateplusmy8 You mean my tweets about Jon Gosselin being xxxx xxxx x xxxxxxx? I still can't stop laughing. LOL
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She's nuts.
I don't think I've ever seen so many dumb questions in one day.
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Grace McCarthy @gracem1290 4h
@Kateplusmy8 Do you just freeze them all and defrost each night before school?
No she makes her kids eat frozen cookies.
Sandie @SandieBellz 5h
@RealZiggyFlo BTW, the cookies most likely don't even last long. Probably need to bring snacks when visiting TFH. @Kateplusmy8
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Looks like the sheep are mad that Jon called KK his FW and now.
They are calling him TFH guess they can't be original.
Regarding stashcache's tweet about the haters going nuts...yes, I am going nuts. Nuts with laughter at how she is wearing egg on her face by not knowing what exactly she was responding to!
"Miam miam" is french equivalent to "yum-yum"... Funny how onomatopee can differ so much from one language to another. An english dog goes bow-wow, a french dog goes ouah-ouah; an english rooster goes cock-a-doodle-doo and a french one goes cocorico. And Kate Gosselin in any langage is nutso mother from hell... (I know: it's not an onomatopea. It just made me feel good writing it.)
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But an onomatopoeia is an imitation of a sound in a word, such as BOOM or BUZZ or HISS! How does yum, yum, replicate a sound made?
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No one here is doing any school shopping yet, everyone is waiting to do our shopping on during the tax free weekend. Guess PA doesn't do that?
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Never heard of that. My idea of tax-free shopping is going to Delaware.
That's the saddest thing. Kate could be out with her kids, enjoying a picnic in the park, a summer festival, the fair, the pool, summer camp, etc. Instead she is inside allegedly "baking" a ton of cookies she doesn't need and counting down the days til she is free of her kids. Sad.
This is exactly what I think. Non-working mom, home all summer with the kids, and can barely get in the car on a weekend to go shopping and to Chipotle, of course with only half of them in tow. A summer in the house, or at the pool, probably with only your sibs around, is some form of arrested development, missed opportunities. We know she has help, and still cannot take them, n any number, anywhere. Museums, art classes, movies, day camps - we know it's not the money no matter how much she implies it is. Simply bad parenting from a very selfish woman.
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@callerbabe @Kateplusmy8 Great news! A witness who can verify Kate's cookie baking skills and an Ashley visit, too! Haters will go nuts!
I've noticed that this person often presents as being a few fries short of a Happy Meal, so it's not surprising that she would tweet this...and believe that the "witness" was actually at Kate's house!
Ah, I get it now. One of the fans thinks that Jon has supplied the non fans with some kind of court documents because Jon is our "source." Anyone here read any sealed court documents?
Now back to chopping weeds. :(
The fans seem to be very shallow thinkers. They say the haters are making a fuss about cookies. No, it's about TFW's need for ego stroking, her exaggeration, and her lying.
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Stash @stashcache 6m
@Pretty_Bird_0 @callerbabe @Kateplusmy8 Honest mistake. No doubt someone would correct me!
Now she's saying it was an honest mistake. I would call it jumping to conclusions and grasping at straws.
Calling Jon the former husband isn't the same joke at all. They don't get it.
Calling Jon the former husband isn't the same joke at all. They don't get it.
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Also not funny when you're just copying something you saw elsewhere. #boring
Scarlett Parker @parker_scarlett 5h
@RealZiggyFlo @IMPerel LMAO. All their fuss (as usual) helps 2keep @Kateplusmy8 even more in the spotlight &will help promote her cook book!
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But her cookbook isn't selling soooo???
Meanwhile, back on reality shows that are actually on TV currently...
The Bachelorette is promoting ” the most shocking Bachelorette Episode EVER” for tonight. Don't they have a most shocking episode ever every season on this show?
Big Brother is more fun than ever to watch! The twists and turns and eleventy-dozen alliances among the hamsters are fascinating!
Other countries have had a celebrity Big Brother, if the USA edition had one maybe TFW could go on it. Everyone might get a one to three month vacation from TFW, she would get on TV, win win all around!
Sheeple brains, no use in trying to figure them out. Milo sees herself as sweet and well mannered, Goody says she never uses foul language. And they think calling Jon TFH is what, a reverse joke? Toss in the bizarre q's they ask Kate about freezers and child rearing, and off we go.
Tiffany @MissWiggs 3m
@Kateplusmy8 my 7y/o just found ur book #8littlefaces which she reads daily!!
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Why? A seven-year-old should be reading books like "The Snow Leopard: The True Story of an Amazing Rescue," ways to help endangered species, or "Little House In The Big Woods" (Wilder)... NOT a Kate Gosselin picture book!
@callerbabe: @Kateplusmy8 On Friday Ashley & I were @ K-days all day{11hrs}-my feet are still sore tonight!Your baking is yummy too,Kate
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I think that if you are looking for a credible source to confirm that someone actually baked cookies, you might have a credibility problem! Especially if the person is a cookbook author.
Also, if Chipotle gifted the card, isn't she now required to disclose it in the tweet?
"No one here is doing any school shopping yet, everyone is waiting to do our shopping on during the tax free weekend. Guess PA doesn't do that?"
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Clothing is not taxed in PA, with some exceptions, like formal wear or swimsuits. Not yet. Give it time.
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