I am very familiar with the Betty Broderick case. I have letters from her. She STILL blames Dan for her circumstances. She is the victim and he deserved to die -- her stance.
One of her letters is so full of anger that the punctuation on fierce sentences actually pierces the lined paper.
I think there are parallels in the Kate/Betty story.
This might be a stupid question or already answered, but why would TFW sue Jon civiilly and not criminally for the ID theft and hacking charges?
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Because private citizens can't sue criminally. Prosecutors decide that. You can alert them and ask them to sue, but the decision to go after someone criminally is up to the prosecutor's office, not Kate. I guess no meant no to them. Her only option if she is not happy with the prosecutor's decision is to then sue him herself in civil court.
The easiest way to understand this is the OJ case. The state of CA went after him criminally. But Nicole's family went after him civilly.
So, it's possible that TFW won't even be happy once she accomplishes what she sets out to do, terminate parental rights.
In seriousness, I wonder if it's exhausting and uncomfortable to be entrapped in such wild and irrational emotions. Or if it's just their normal and they feel just fine.
How sad that the kids have to deal with this on their first day of school. The twins must be absolutely mortified. I'm glad to see the humor here--but, mostly I am just very sad.
Yes. I've always felt that way...the snark is fun, but at the end all I feel is sad for the children.
It is indeed very sad, heartbreaking really, she had to do this just when they are back to school, and the great publicity stunt that backfired on her means that now the kids are probably hearing just as much hazing about their mother as their father who is the target of this in the first place.
On the flip side, maybe they need to hear this. They just might come home and shake some sense into Kate. They are plenty old enough to understand she is being made a fool of, and to be terribly upset about that and plead with her to stop. I doubt she would listen, but you never know. It's worth a shot.
The first day of school should be all about them. Now, it's going to be all about their parents. So f-ed up.
I like how GMA showed all the worst clips of TFW being a total shrew, and made sure to emphasize that this is all over accusations of CHILD ABUSE.
I cannot imagine how many tens of thousands of people are now suddenly hearing this and getting curious about it. Child abuse? Exactly what did she do and how can I find out more?
Good job, Kate. Just, really good job here. The child abuse was FORGOTTEN. Forgotten!! Now it's front and center. What a fool she is. An utter fool.
"She pushed it one too many times and the public turned on her. Wouldn't this be mortifying for a normal person?"
If you look at her documented behavior, it's clear that she cares very deeply about what others (even strangers) think of her. Didn't Robert say that she used to keep a file on her PC with a list of the "bad blogs"? What other "celebrity" would go to such lengths to silence random Joe critics? Even her stupid cookbook makes it clear that she reads every single thing someone says about her, because it's full of sentence after sentence that addresses specific things people have said about her (I could list examples here, but then I'd have to go back and read the sample again). So if negative press bothered her before, you can bet it bothers her now, only now she doesn't have the might of TLC behind her to spin the stories in her favor.
When you think about it, it's actually quite sad and pity-inducing that she is so deeply insecure, isn't it?
Did you see the part where he said they claim they got the info from the trash and we look forward to exploring that in discovery?
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What a mess. This isn't a small town in New Hampshire where it is illegal to go through trash left at the curb. So either Robert got it in the trash or he didn't. Sounds like they really aren't sure about anything.
I can't imagine what Razzmatazz thinks he'll learn in discovery that he doesn't already know. Kate says Jon stole a hard drive, Robert says he found the discs in the trash. He has a detailed diary of his exploits picking her trash and he took pictures. Unless there's security camera video showing Jon removing the hard drive and handing it to Robert, it's still a he said, she said case. And Robert said the discs have a sort of digital footprint on them that shows they weren't tampered with or updated. To top it off, there's even a police report (thanks to Kate) which can document his story that she wanted Jon out and vowed to throw away anything he left behind. If he has the discs and quoted her journal verbatim, they can't claim he defamed her. She defamed herself.
With all this negative publicity, what would be the chances of HCI cancelling her cookbook? Especially with sales numbers so low? Even if she is paying for all the costs up front, it can't be good for HCI to be associated with her?
Shouldn't this attorney put a gag order on himself? Why is he talking about this?
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I have no idea. He should have said no comment or at the most said Robert says he got it from the trash, my client adamantly denies that and we are confident we will prove otherwise.
This whole, oh we'll have to explore whether this trash thing mighta happened, is bizarre and just cracked open a huge weakness in their case. It's clear they don't know whatsoever. Sounds like they're just going by whatever convoluted story Kate told them and based a lawsuit around her paranoid fantasy of what MIGHT have happened. They don't seem to have the slightest proof that the original explanation of getting it from the trash isn't absolutely 100% true. They seem to just be hoping something will come out in discovery that supports their other bizarre contention.
As Dot said, it is a he said she said. It will simply come down to a credibility call. And you never want to base your whole case on a judge or jury making a simple credibility call. That's a crap shoot to try to avoid at all costs. You want PROOF.
I wonder if TLC or it's head honcho has said "RELEASE THE HOUNDS!" FINALLY true reporting from mainstream news outlets. YES it's about the abuse. It's always been about the abuse. Abuse of power, authority, funds, contracts, bosses, sponsors, charities, donors,viewers, family, neighbors, volunteers, husbands, CHILDREN, PETS
I agree with what so many others have said here in that Kate thoroughly hates Jon. And the parallel with Kate and Betty Brodrick is scary.
The other thing I keep thinking about is Kate has only gone after Jon. She didn't sue CC when she was fired, or The Stir, or TLC. No, she goes after the person who was weak and without financial means to fight her. Only this time she miscalculated. Jon may not have the money to fight her but there are more people on his side than ever before. Jon is no longer weak (IMO) because she utterly and feciously destroyed him. He's ready for the fight. The other thing she miscaluated was the public's opinion of her. She thought she was all that and more, and could do not wrong. Ha! Based on what I've read, especially the comments, people are seeing through her lies and want her to disappear from public.
When this comes to trial, Kate will not be in the same position she was when she went through the divorce. People are done with her and Jon is ready for her. Dare I say Kate has met her Waterloo.
She misjudged this by a MILE! I mean this is the misjudgment of the century. She has the entire GMA laughing at her, calling her a child abuser, and making sure to emphasize she is FORMER everything. I wonder if she is reflecting on any of this or still just farting away rainbows.
You are right, TLC must be getting a little pissed right now. I wonder if they will intervene. Indirectly, this comes back to them, because they had a child abuser on their payroll. If this gets out of control, at a certain point they may fear this is reflecting poorly on them. I wonder if they'll try to do anything.
It's strange how Hailey Glassman gave TFMJG those texts messages from Jon's phone then had a major meltdown when Kate talked about using them in a lawsuit. It seemed really odd that she'd threaten to sue TFMJG over using them in court when she's the one who gave them to her.
I've always thought the texts sounded fake, like Hailey took Jon's phone and sent them to her phone. They're too wordy and too incriminating. I bet a lawyer warned her that those had better be legit or she's in deep trouble and that caused her to freak out. Nothing else explains her reaction. Maybe it could be proven that Hailey's phone was in the same room as Jon's phone at the time they were sent. Stranger things have happened in this psychodrama.
Thanks, Berks, from all of us here in Canada, for the clickable link to GMA. That was really refreshing to watch. Finally, a real news organization seem to have her number! And, -maybe my memory is playing tricks on me again-, but wasn't TFW booked for an appearance at GMA in September? Or was it still "pending", lol?
Robert called Kate a child abuser and the suit said he defamed her. I'd so love to see TLC hand over the unedited Kate tapes. You know, all the stuff they couldn't show. I'd have to go to PA to witness that.
Thank you GMA for putting the correct spin on this sordid mess. In a headline spin sans celebrity: Unemployed mother of 8 takes childrens' savings to file lawsuit against their father accusing him of stealing from her trash.
Yes, she has seriously misjudged this one. Her mental illness has pushed her deep, deep in a hole, fueled by whom, close crazy internet friends? It is really obvious that there is no one in her life to keep her from doing ridiculous things. I would hope HCI will reconsider publishing this toxic mess.
I'll tell you what made no sense to me about the Hailey Glassman thing. She said her mother was upset and couldn't sleep, etc., and didn't want any more Gosselin drama in their lives. That was the reason Hailey gave for not cooperating with Kate, however within days she was telling Radar SHE was going to sue Kate. Isn't that bringing Gosselin drama into their lives? Why would her mother be okay with that? Something is definitely fishy.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 14 She misjudged this by a MILE! I mean this is the misjudgment of the century. She has the entire GMA laughing at her, calling her a child abuser, and making sure to emphasize she is FORMER everything. I wonder if she is reflecting on any of this or still just farting away rainbows. ***** I believe Kate thought the professionals on GMS and the Today Show and ET and AH etc, etc.. were her contemporaries, her equals and that what they did, she could do too. Just like that. She's never been on equal footing. What she has been is a ratings draw to be used, then discarded like yesterday's newspaper. She thought her fame didn't have an expiration date.
It's strange how Hailey Glassman gave TFMJG those texts messages from Jon's phone then had a major meltdown when Kate talked about using them in a lawsuit. It seemed really odd that she'd threaten to sue TFMJG over using them in court when she's the one who gave them to her.
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It IS curious why she'd flip out when TFW said she wanted to use the texts in the lawsuit. I read about text "spoofing". Is it possible Hailey might have done this and why BV said he can "verify" that it is indeed Jon's number? Would she have known how to do that, or been shown by a techie how to do it?
"SMS Spoofing occurs when a sender manipulates address information. Often it is done in order to impersonate a user that has roamed onto a foreign network and is submitting messages to the home network."
I cannot imagine how many tens of thousands of people are now suddenly hearing this and getting curious about it. Child abuse? Exactly what did she do and how can I find out more?
________________ And here's where one gets into the psychological/sociological aspect of it. She's become a laughingstock. People are fed up with her, as evidenced by the negative comments both after she was on the magazine cover last week, and now in the wake of the lawsuit. And still, there are some die-hard fans who either aren't aware of the backlash she's receiving, or they do know, and they still proclaim her the most awesome mom on the planet. To them, she walks on water. They want to be just like her. Why? Young and gullible, maybe, and immaturity goes along with it, but what about the adults? Are they still stuck at a place where they think like teens?
What is it in their brains that just won't allow them to take a critical look at her and her actions? I do believe, though, that after this, fans will be dropping like flies. Moreover, there is a sub group of fans who, although they may have started out in their defense of Kate, moved on to this fight with the haters, and the fascination with Kate took a back seat...the whole RWA thing, who did what to whom, who outed whom, who stole passwords to blog sites, the general infighting. For them, Kate and the kids are secondary...it's this online battle, tearing one another apart that preoccupies them.
Then you have yet another sub group -- the BV gang and the fans who have aligned themselves with him and salute his outings and tactics. I don't think this really has anything to do with Kate per se, but rather they think that because they've become members of his select group, they're tough...in the in-crowd (especially the one fan who couldn't make up her mind which side she was on). Tough talk, obscenities, the more the better, and they're happy campers.
It's fascinating the way this thing is unfolding. What's tragic is that the children are helpless victims in all of it, pawns in this whole horrible game that her actions are responsible for setting into motion.
You are right, TLC must be getting a little pissed right now. I wonder if they will intervene. Indirectly, this comes back to them, because they had a child abuser on their payroll ****** This is a tinderbox with a poised match. I never believed TLC, the crew and the entire editing team didn't see abuse. Too long hours, repeating scenes, staging scenes, and probably seeing corporal punishment. Not only did they have a child abuser on their payroll, but they had a pedophile too. Here's a scoop-- did TLC have a pedophile employed (or Figure 8 Productions, which edited the footage), who had access to any and all footage of the kids, while he was under investigation by the FBI?
I imagine this very sad event, my husband, the father of our children, after having gone through so much together, he is leaving for good, he is carrying his belongings down from over the garage in trash bags and boxes, it is raining. He has one friend helping him. So what do I do? With the children in the house, rain, night, end of a marriage, belongings in trash bags, I would be on my bed in tears, or have left the house. The thing I would never do is escalate the misery by calling the police because his lone friend helping him through this task at one of the lowest points in his life is a reporter. Makes my blood run cold. With that kind of vengeance I have to believe she demanded action from her attorneys back in 2009 when she discovered the alleged "hacking" and they said no. It seems she won't be happy until he is destroyed. This is all a result of her actions.
I spoke too soon. TFMJG will be back on the news when shows need a punchline or a good laugh. TFMJG will be back on The Soup and maybe even late night talk shows so they can show old footage of her behaving horribly to Jon, Tony, Ashley, everyone! Maybe Tony will even go back on Anderson and tell us how he REALLY feels about her!
TFW has made a tactical mistake by filing this SLAPP suit. Now she is being tried in the court of public opinion and it's not a pretty sight. The entertainment industry has gone from looking at her as a joke to realizing she is extremely litigious. She has way too much baggage to ever get a show of her own and if she has plans for Mady I don't think that will work out. Agents and Producers will be very aware that Mady's mother is sue happy and they'll simply move on to the next candidate. The Industry is rather insular and people talk, she's given them plenty to talk about now. TFW you overplayed your hand. You did this to yourself and no good will ever come from it.
TFW uses a lot of victim words and it seems now not only her critics, but the media and social media aren't buying it. "Bullied," "haters," single-mom," "survivor," and alleging her then husband "hacked" her computer in 2009. Knowing they were headed for divorce, and the computer was part of the personal property within their home, and the content of the information within the computer, I think most adults will identify with Jon. With the knowledge that some very expensive, very powerful attorneys are being paid for by the media outlet and suing you for $500k, who in their right mind would leave without taking such information? I think this suit is an enormous mistake.
Admin said: As Dot said, it is a he said she said. It will simply come down to a credibility call. And you never want to base your whole case on a judge or jury making a simple credibility call. That's a crap shoot to try to avoid at all costs. You want PROOF. ******* If this case were to go to trial, I would suggest that Jon demand a trial by jury. Kate is immensely unlikeable. Jon is almost the opposite, as most people find him likeable or at least pleasant and cordial. Years ago, an attorney I worked for had a case where the plaintiffs were very sympathetic but had a weak case. However, one of the defense witnesses made a terrible impression on the jury. She was an attractive woman in her 40's, and she came across as snotty, full of herself, cold and uncaring. The jury found in favor for the plaintiff and awarded a huge amount in damages. I believe this was in no small part to really, really disliking this defense witness.
Let the jury hear testimony from both Kate and Jon, and let's see which one they would rather believe: the cold, calculating, full of herself Kate; or the soft-spoken, friendly and sympathetic Jon.
I Googled Betty Broderick parole to see when she was last denied parole. It was late 2011 and this is what they said in denying her parole:
"Your heart is still bitter, and you are still angry, said Board of Prison Terms Commissioner Robert Doyle. He continued, "You show no significant progress in evolving. You are still back 20 years ago in that same mode. You've got to move on."
Can you imagine still carrying that kind of anger 22 years after the death of the person you feel caused that anger?
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Looks like someone sold a video to this site, who is now selling it?
Another question. Why did Kate choose to sue Jon but not Robert? Suing Jon would not stop the release of Robert's book would it? I guess I don't understand why she is suing Jon for the stuff that Robert is putting in his book but not also suing Robert.
Is Kate still going on her crookbook tour? I wonder how she can show her face after this bogus law suit. Those poor kids. They must really be teased even behind their backs at school. The other parents must speak of this and their kids could hear all of this and repeat it. Nobody can think they are all that like she does.
"She misjudged this by a MILE! I mean this is the misjudgment of the century."
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I agree. I think she really thought that people would be sympathetic to her plight as a "single mom" of 8 just trying "piece and patch" together an income to provide for her family.
She totally underestimated the public's bullshit tolerance level. You can only cry wolf so many times before the villagers start ignoring you.
And really, how many people knew about Mr. Hoffman's book before she filed the lawsuit?
I wonder what atty Razzmatazz thinks of all the negative publicity. Is he having second thoughts about being the public face for TFW and her lunatic ravings? I hope the blowback lands at least partly on him, for taking on such a ridiculous case.
I wish Jon could get 100% custody of the children. I do worry so much for them and their safety when they are with their mother. She is going deeper and deeper into mental illness. She has no one left who can control her, like "head of security" Skeeve.
Mental illness, left untreated, only gets worse and worse. Maybe the filing of this lawsuit, the subsequent publishing of Hoffman's reconfigured book, and other evidence of instability would encourage the family law judge to agree to give Jon full custody, if he asked for it.
I thought Hailey freaked out because her parents were upset and did not want her involved, maybe even threatened to cut her off. Seems like I read that somewhere, maybe here, :0
Other gripes involved the new bread, which students don’t want to eat because it’s brown wheat bread, and the new milk, which is skim or one percent fat, not two percent or whole. The cafeteria’s chocolate- and strawberry-flavored milk offerings are now nonfat. ****** Wheat bread is definitely better than white bread and contains more nutrients. I'd have to actually see the bread provided, because many wheat breads are quite delicious. As to the milk choices, I'm not sure. My child is approaching age 16. He's always been skinny. His metabolism burns at a high rate. So he gets whole milk, because he needs those calories.
I still pack a lunch for my son because he doesn't like cafeteria food. If I were a parent on the lunch program, I think I might pack some extra choices for my child, to supplement the lunch program. Some pretzels, a bagel w/cream cheese, half a sandwich, whatever.
I know childhood obesity is a problem in this country, but I think it's more than just simple eating habits. Kids are more sedentary, what with the advent of video games, 100's of channels on TV, etc. Not to mention, eating lots more fast food and having soda, chips, etc.
When I was a child, having a meal from McDonald's or A&W was an occasional, special thing. I doubt we were treated to McDonald's more than once a month, if that. Soda was also an occasional special beverage, saved for a birthday party or something similar. Otherwise, we had milk or water, and orange juice (small glass) for breakfast. The first time I saw a family sit down to dinner and pour soda into their glasses, I was shocked. I had never seen such a thing!
Rain said... 25 I imagine this very sad event, my husband, the father of our children, after having gone through so much together, he is leaving for good, he is carrying his belongings down from over the garage in trash bags and boxes, it is raining. He has one friend helping him. So what do I do? With the children in the house, rain, night, end of a marriage, belongings in trash bags, I would be on my bed in tears, or have left the house. The thing I would never do is escalate the misery by calling the police because his lone friend helping him through this task at one of the lowest points in his life is a reporter. Makes my blood run cold. ==== Wow. I didn't know about him having to leave at night and in the rain. Or that Herr Kate Von Bitch had called the police. Good grief. She is unrelentingly cruel. She wouldn't have cried I'm sure, but I'll bet Jon did.
So, it seems Kate's Twittersode of the kids' last day of vacation and return to school has resulted in some paps at the bus stop this morning. That one was just too easy to call. But wait, there's more! Tune in to K8+my8.com and see their smiling faces going to school!! Oh, and buy my cookbook.
What a confusing life the kids must have. Maybe Kate has turned off all tv's and computers and cell phones so that they haven't gotten wind of the lawsuit, because according to Kate, everything is just HAPPY, HAPPY, HAPPY in Gosselinland.
Can Robert Hoffman release his book before this "trial" or "discovery" happens? How about Jon's book; can he release his book on September 24? Jon has said "I may flip-out soon". Maybe when Jon wins he'll ask court to take away Gosselin from Kate. If anyone is being hurt it's Jon's name.
I think Mrs. Glassman must truly regret the day that she contacted Kate Gosselin to offer up the free tummy tuck. BTW, did Dr. Glassman get paid by TLC for his appearance? Did TLC cover any of his expense for the procedure? Does Hailey still live at home? What does she do for a living?
Okay, thanks for the responses. Another probably dumb question. Can Robert still release his book as this is going on or has she gotten an injunction against the book?
Robert called Kate a child abuser and the suit said he defamed her. I'd so love to see TLC hand over the unedited Kate tapes. You know, all the stuff they couldn't show. I'd have to go to PA to witness that. -----------------------------------
You can see it even edited if you pay close attention:
In this clip, at 15:11 you can hear them tell Leah not to put her hand in her mouth and when she does it again, there is a sudden cut and next thing you know, Leah is crying, holding her arm, while Kate's hand is withdrawing.She clearly smacked her: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2I_4OVy7JaA In the same episode, a similar incident involving mady occurs, starting at around 19:20.You can see Mady holding her chest/arm and hear her say to Kate while sobbing: "You're mean! Daddy!"
In this one, at 5:37 Jon sends Collin to the corner, you can see Collin is quiet at the corner then the camera cuts and again, in the next shot Jon brings a shrieking Collin back at the table: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfuP3S2b1Zc
In this one, at 2:04 Alexis cringes like she expects to be hit with the stick: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RKrcalX8eE
Here at 10:02 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRV1zsKy-6c , here at 4:24 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-LFbuVDt7U you can see simial objects in Kate's hand whilte sending the misbehaving kids in time out and in both cases there is a cut during which the sticks(or whatever they are) could have been used especially since both boys are sobbing by the time they reach the corner.
Sadly, the examples could continue.So yeah, imagine what went on with the cameras off :(
Does anyone remember that full of crap episode called Discipline where they spend an hour talking about how they only use time outs as punishment? Yeah...
"The kids happily unloaded from my bus, onto the school bus….I guess they are “all growed up” (haha terrible grammar; sorry, just had to! It drives Mady and Cara CRAZY when I purposely use incorrect english–> wait, “growed” isn’t even a word at all, period. Oh well! My blog post. I’ll write what I want!:) because they didn’t want me to get out and walk them to the bus — even on the first day!!! They said “we’re big now, mom!'”
You know the more I think of it I believe Kate is trying to convince herself more so than her handful of fans that everything is happy happy joy joy in her house. It really is satrting to verge on desperation.
Does Hailey still live at home? What does she do for a living? *** I think I read that Hailey was cast in a reality tv show about young women trying to make it in NYC, a la "Girls". I think that Lena Dunham is involved, too. Here it is: http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2013/02/lena-dunham-girls-reality-tv-show-hailey-glassman/
Marie, my guess is that Robert has worked with attorneys to make sure this time his book passes muster. People write unauthorized biographies all the time. What killed Robert, IMO, were his personal comments instead of just stating the facts and letting the reader draw their own conclusions.
I would think Jon could write his own autobiography or memoir as he sees fit. It's his life and his recollections and his opinions. However, an attorney would probably discourage him with a lawsuit hanging over his head to release anything at present. It's a delay tactic on Kate's part to file a lawsuit and I suspect she has applied pressure on him to never write about their life.
Symptoms By Mayo Clinic staff Narcissistic personality disorder is characterized by dramatic, emotional behavior, which is in the same category as antisocial and borderline personality disorders.
Narcissistic personality disorder symptoms may include:
Believing that you're better than others Fantasizing about power, success and attractiveness Exaggerating your achievements or talents Expecting constant praise and admiration Believing that you're special and acting accordingly Failing to recognize other people's emotions and feelings Expecting others to go along with your ideas and plans Taking advantage of others Expressing disdain for those you feel are inferior Being jealous of others Believing that others are jealous of you Trouble keeping healthy relationships Setting unrealistic goals Being easily hurt and rejected Having a fragile self-esteem Appearing as tough-minded or unemotional Although some features of narcissistic personality disorder may seem like having confidence or strong self-esteem, it's not the same. Narcissistic personality disorder crosses the border of healthy confidence and self-esteem into thinking so highly of yourself that you put yourself on a pedestal. In contrast, people who have healthy confidence and self-esteem don't value themselves more than they value others.
When you have narcissistic personality disorder, you may come across as conceited, boastful or pretentious. You often monopolize conversations. You may belittle or look down on people you perceive as inferior. You may have a sense of entitlement. And when you don't receive the special treatment to which you feel entitled, you may become very impatient or angry. You may insist on having "the best" of everything — the best car, athletic club, medical care or social circles, for instance.
But underneath all this behavior often lies a fragile self-esteem. You have trouble handling anything that may be perceived as criticism. You may have a sense of secret shame and humiliation. And in order to make yourself feel better, you may react with rage or contempt and efforts to belittle the other person to make yourself appear better.
When to see a doctor When you have narcissistic personality disorder, you may not want to think that anything could be wrong — doing so wouldn't fit with your self-image of power and perfection. But by definition, a narcissistic personality disorder causes problems in many areas of your life, such as relationships, work, school or your financial affairs. You may be generally unhappy and confused by a mix of seemingly contradictory emotions. Others may not enjoy being around you, and you may find your relationships unfulfilling.
If you notice any of these problems in your life, consider reaching out to a trusted doctor or mental health provider. Getting the right treatment can help make your life more rewarding and enjoyable.
Millicent> the reason, that I can see why one school district is pulling out of the National school food program, is cause they did not test market first. Get the kids opinion, of what they want to serve. It would have been easier to test it first(then all the food that was tossed out), then work with what the kids want and what the program wants them to eat and then compromise. I saw in I think it was an ABC report on how much food ended up in the garbage, uneaten. It was a lot. These programs have to understand that a lot of those kids, never had a lot of the food they are tryin get them to eat. It's one thing to have them try a sample, it's another to get them to actually eat a plate full. I've worked with kids around 7-10 years old and a lot of them never had fresh veggies, at home food came from cans or they never eat fresh veggies at home, a lot of them eat rice, beans, tomato sauce, ground beef, fast foods that is it. Serving kids, who may never have eaten anything else, puts the program up for failure. If they never had these veggies or wheat bread, they will not eat it. The compromise is to introduce the healthier food a little at a time. Like a sample. Shroving healthy food all at once does not work.
I can't help but wonder if the children were still smiling when they got off of the bus this afternoon? Oh wait! Mommy probably bought some candy to hand out to all of the children!
"I cannot believe I have two 7th graders and six 3rd graders! I worked late into the night last night, finishing my labeling school stuff, packing eight extra special lunches in their new adorable lunch boxes, painting nails and giving relaxing “spa like” baths (complete with spa music) to my three little girls." Everyone woke excessively early this morning — AND — all in good moods and in happy spirits! We had our special “MomDonalds” breakfast sandwiches for breakfast and after our traditional front porch pics, we were off to the bus stop! ______________
Nah, Kate's not manic, not at all.
The kids woke up "excessively" early. She's such a wordsmith. LOL
"The reality is I don't think she's happy at all. Happy people wouldn't do what she did."
I think she's only happy when surrounded by free/grifted crap, and even then it's only a superficial kind of happiness. That's why she keeps needing more and more of it. I've never, ever want to be her. What a sad life.
I wonder if the poor kids woke up so early due to anxiety about facing all their peers and worry about taunting and teasing over this mess. Naw, couldn't be that.
"The kids happily unloaded from my bus, onto the school bus….I guess they are “all growed up” (haha terrible grammar; sorry, just had to! It drives Mady and Cara CRAZY when I purposely use incorrect english–> wait, “growed” isn’t even a word at all, period.
growed [grohd] Show IPA
verb Nonstandard. a simple past tense and past participle of grow.
Six of the kids have bright white shirts on..the two in the middle of the picture have old yellow looking shirts. Couldn't she have gotten everyone a new shirt for the first day?
How long before there are hearings for the law suit I wonder? Will that be public record too?
I did not know that unloaded is a verb, or that people cold unload themselves from one vehicle to another.
She is beyond disgusting. Probably told the kids the paps were there because of her crapbook, not because she filed a lawsuit against daddy. I am sure they happily unloaded; school means friends, adventures and an escape from the long, boring mommy summer. Paps. They do not deserve that.
They didn't want mommy clinbing on the bus and telling them where to sit like she does every other first day? I'm shocked! I wonder if she went over the seating chart and if the kids are brave enoug not to follow it.
Jon has said "I may flip-out soon". Maybe when Jon wins he'll ask court to take away Gosselin from Kate.
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Win or lose, it will have no effect on custody or taking the kids away from Kate. Custody is an entirely separate issue.
"The first time I saw a family sit down to dinner and pour soda into their glasses, I was shocked. I had never seen such a thing!:
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Same here. We had milk with our meals, and water when we were thirsty, and Coke with our Saturday night pizza. That's about it. The kids still don't drink soda with their meals, not even when we're eating out.
Just when I think it's almost over for TFW, there she goes again.
Kate, with what you are doing you are proving without a doubt that you are A BAD MOM.
If I had the resources that you supposedly have, I would enjoy every minute with my kids. I would be volunteering at the school, taking them to sports events, enrolling them in activities they enjoy. Time with your kids goes so fast so just spend as much time as you can with them.
Go back to school and take courses that will benefit you in the future so that you will have a solid occupation when the kids are grown.
Spending time trying to take down the father of your children is so pointless and unnecessarily malicious not to mention you are drowning in spite and stress which does no good for anyone.
Focus on those kids and not on perceived slights or your own desperate agenda.
"The kids happily unloaded from my bus, onto the school bus….I guess they are “all growed up” (haha terrible grammar; sorry, just had to! It drives Mady and Cara CRAZY when I purposely use incorrect english–> wait, “growed” isn’t even a word at all, period. Oh well! My blog post. I’ll write what I want!:) because they didn’t want me to get out and walk them to the bus — even on the first day!!! They said “we’re big now, mom!'”
Have any details been provided about Kate's tour to promote her "cookbook"? If she is planning a stop anywhere near where I live, I would like to drop by and take photographs, in the hopes that Skeever tries to take my phone/camera away from me.
Tip to Skeeve: I would advise you not put your hands anywhere on me or my possessions.
My question for Kate: How often do you use the Spanker? When will you return to real employment, now that your children are in school full time?
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 11 Shouldn't this attorney put a gag order on himself? Why is he talking about this?
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I have no idea. He should have said no comment or at the most said Robert says he got it from the trash, my client adamantly denies that and we are confident we will prove otherwise.
This whole, oh we'll have to explore whether this trash thing mighta happened, is bizarre and just cracked open a huge weakness in their case. It's clear they don't know whatsoever. Sounds like they're just going by whatever convoluted story Kate told them and based a lawsuit around her paranoid fantasy of what MIGHT have happened. They don't seem to have the slightest proof that the original explanation of getting it from the trash isn't absolutely 100% true. They seem to just be hoping something will come out in discovery that supports their other bizarre contention. ***************************************** What confuses the heck out of me is that most of the material in Robert's book is contracts, emails and a journal that was written when TFW was The Current Wife. It's stuff Jon legally had access to because it was joint marital property. And because of this, this is probably why TFW could get no criminal charges filed against Robert or Jon. They got her. They got her. To help qwell her seething rage from being gotten, it makes her feel better to file a SLAPP suit and go along with some invented texts. Seriously? If this coffin nailing information was obtained in October 2009, why would Robert/Jon wait until September of 2012 to release it?
I appreciate the opportunity to read all the interesting comments on the latest distressing event in the lives of the Gosselin children.
The most glaring thing to me is that the lawsuit confirms the material in Robert's book is accurate because she is not contesting the legitimacy of the material, only that as she sees it, it was obtained illegally.
Considering that she did pretty much nothing with her kids all summer, I'm surprised she was labeling late into the night yesterday. Such a great example of time managment, that one.
I think we all took pictures of our kids on the first day of school, difference being we did not race to Twitter to pimp the kids to teens and crazy ladies. OK, I had no internet then, but still.
Yes, and again, it just shows how much attention she pays to everything people say about her; she just *has* to set the record straight that every grammar mistake she makes is on purpose and she can say whatever she wants and nyah nyah nyah. A person who is comfortable in her own skin and has a normal sense of self-esteem wouldn't feel the need to engage in this kind of behavior.
Jon has said nothing and I hope he continues to do so. The longer he remains silent, the more people see her true colors. If he made a statement, people would jump all over it. But his silence causes them to analyze and jump all over her. He certainly can't be accused of going along with this for more publicity for himself, as he's been accused of in the past.
How can anyone handle that kind of hate being flung their way? Most of us would crumple into a fetal position, unable to cope with such public vitriol. Instead, she posts more happy/joy/kid pics on her blog, as if nothing has penetrated. I don't get it.
Then you have yet another sub group -- the BV gang and the fans who have aligned themselves with him and salute his outings and tactics. I don't think this really has anything to do with Kate per se, but rather they think that because they've become members of his select group, they're tough...in the in-crowd (especially the one fan who couldn't make up her mind which side she was on). Tough talk, obscenities, the more the better, and they're happy campers. ******* Some great insight and comments.
Just watched the Fox video and the GMA video. It's officially official. TFMJG is a laughingstock. I loved when the reporter at GMA ended his segment by saying TFMJG claims Jon ruined her reputation and Elizabeth Vargas says, "Just now from the book," and all the cohosts laugh. Yeah TFMJG, Jon ruined your reputation and you had absolutely nothing to do with it. And you need to remember TFMJG, that discovery goes both ways. When your Atty. Ratmatazz explores whether Robert Hoffmann legally got your disks out of the trash, you will be subjected to discovery as well. Have fun with that. Will someone please pass the popcorn as well as the oreos.
Just saw that Kris Jenner's talk show was axed. Six week trial run was enough for Fox to say, thank you but no thank you. Is anybody surprised by that?
"Considering that she did pretty much nothing with her kids all summer, I'm surprised she was labeling late into the night yesterday."
That's assuming that she's telling the truth, which IMO is a huge assumption to make. What percentage of what she tells the public is true, do we think? 20%? 10%? Less?
The most glaring thing to me is that the lawsuit confirms the material in Robert's book is accurate because she is not contesting the legitimacy of the material, only that as she sees it, it was obtained illegally.
bm *********** Maybe Robert can seek protection via Whistle Blower laws! Seriously, it's what it is. Kate has been exposed. It doesn't appear to be a matter of *if* the information is true, but how it was obtained. Kate's facade has been pulled back.
The Great and Powerful Oz is exposed. It's all just smoke, ropes and levers, folks.
Jon's silence is working quite well IMO. It prevents this from turning into a tit for tat they're all nuts scenerio. The media right now is framing this as just a whole lot of titting and no tatting and are blaming it all rightly so on TFW. The second anyone tats that will be over.
Frankly it is a very huge victory that the media spun this the way they did. Huge. Jon needs to just ride that wave and stay silent.
This is sort of like you broke into someone's house and discovered a murder but all the murderer can say is but you broke into my house you're a house breaker!!!
Why yes I did because it smelled very odd.
No one is buying her crying. The punishment does not fit the crime and everyone sees what the real issue is, the abuse. Finally! Thank you, the media! Lol
My sister-in-law's mother was from Hardin Co. Kentucky, a very lovely rural part of the state. The people were wonderfully warm and friendly to me, and I assume they are to everyone. And they enjoy their food! You know the Drive-Ins, Diners and Dives that Guy Fieri visits? They love those kinds of places. Meatloaf, gravy, potatoes, gravy, green beans, rolls, fried chicken, cornbread, beans and cornbread, kale, collard greens, and pie. Down home comfort food. They don't have any more cases of obesity than city dwellers who eat fancier foods. I can understand the kids don't want to give up their shepherd's pie in favor of pita sandwiches with spinach. They don't know what to make of some of the "fancy food", and if they can't pronounce it, they're sure not going to eat it! (Baguette, focaccia, quinoa, whatever.) They like meat, taters, gravy and pie. No complaints, they promise.
They're not going to change because somebody thinks they ought to. They like what they like and what they're used to. It's part of who they are. There will be war if somebody tries to take away their sausage and biscuits!
Frankly it is a very huge victory that the media spun this the way they did. Huge. Jon needs to just ride that wave and stay silent. August 28, 2013 at 1:39 PM ****** Could not agree more. I've wanted to say that I wish Jon strength in this marathon that is surviving TFW's abuse, losing himself, finding and centering himself again and striving all the while to shield his children from all of it, as much as humanly possible. I hope for Jon that he keeps himself surrounded by family and trusted friends, and that he might find support through his faith once again.
It must be very hard to not fight back, but it takes the bigger person to show restraint instead of giving in to the release of lashing out.
Yeah, Kate is looking pretty bad right now, and she needs no help in painting herself in a unkind light.
Until and unless Kate gets therapy-- real, professional help-- she will lead with her anger, which is really to say, pain.
I'm not a mommy. Is it usual for 9 year olds to be bathed by their mother?
I thought TFW was bragging how independent her kids were. Yet she has to stay up half the night organizing school items for 8 children, 2 of whom are in Middle School (or whatever it's called there.)
capecodmama said... 87 Just saw that Kris Jenner's talk show was axed. Six week trial run was enough for Fox to say, thank you but no thank you. Is anybody surprised by that? ***** Not surprised. There's only so much the public can take. Kris hasn't the great mind for business she likes to think she has. She has a Kate mentality, "strike while the iron is hot", vs. leave a little to the imagination and keep them wanting more. After we've seen your daughter's labia majora, I can safely say we've seen enough.
fidosmommy said... 95 I'm not a mommy. Is it usual for 9 year olds to be bathed by their mother? ****** To my memory, that would have been very, very strange. I assumed she gave them some bubble bath and told them to squirt it in. She never bathed the kids to begin with. The whole thing was so over the top.
Spending time trying to take down the father of your children is so pointless and unnecessarily malicious not to mention you are drowning in spite and stress which does no good for anyone. _________ Amen to that.
She may sue, speak badly about, and try to turn her children against their father. He's still their father. As much as Katie doesn't want to admit it, those kids are growing up. If she thinks a bunch of those kids aren't going to see her for who and what she really is ... she's sadly mistaken.
It would be rich if when the kids' book about mommy comes out ... they use Robert's queen and pawns cover!
I'm WAY behind in reading the comments, but I've just got to say that Razzmatazz and his ''discovery'' of what was in the trash is something I'm really looking forward to! In his book, Robert said that what he used to write the book was just a tiny portion of what he discovered. Razzmatazz is about to ''discover'' much more than he can imagine!
I can only speak for my own mothering experience. By age 9, my son was taking his own baths. I would run the water and get it ready for him, then leave him to it. However, I did still check to be sure he got all the shampoo out of his hair.
As to staying up late into the night supposedly preparing all the kids' school materials - yet another example of what a crappy organizer Kate is. She doesn't work, she doesn't volunteer her time anywhere, she has no friends to go and visit -- so she's basically got all the time in the world to prepare the kids for back to school. Does she do it in an orderly fashion, over the two weeks preceding the first of school? Noooooooo, for some reason she puts it all off until the very night before school.
Why would I be impressed with that? I am far from being a Wonder Woman, but in the two weeks prior to school starting up again, I buy any necessary supplies. I used to organize my son's backpack, but now I just hand him the supplies and he puts everything in order.
Not that I believe Kate actually sat there and organized 8 backpacks. She probably created a 52-point chore chart for the kids, on how to organize their backpacks. If they missed any of the 52 points,she charged them a dollar. Soon, she'll be charging them for their food, laundry costs, their portion of the PG&E bill, etc.
Fidomommy> Exactly. I went to a Veggie fest here and expecting to get veggie recipes, and taste veggie food, well, I was shocked, they had several booths, that had powdered stuff you mix and drink. WTH, is that? Some of the veggie samples of their food was terrible tasting, way too spicy, and some looked like what Kate makes. I would not taste test it. I like to taste it before I buy it. If I can.
To my memory, that would have been very, very strange. I assumed she gave them some bubble bath and told them to squirt it in. She never bathed the kids to begin with. The whole thing was so over the top.
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I'm voting for private bath time for each of them.
Millicent> If Kate is a so-called good organizer, as she claim/as her fans claim, then why wait to the last minute. If I had kids, they would be ready, for school at the least 3 days before, the most a week before. I do that when I travel, I'm ready to go, 3-4 days before trip. All packed, check list checked. Kate is tryin to convince everyone she is soooo busy, cause she is working so hard at nothing. I really think that song> Taking Care of Business by BTO is her theme song.
Mia Savino @miasavin0 3h My dad bumped into Kate Gosselin today and she gave him a dirty look.
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 2h @The5antos @miasavin0 Ha! I gave ZERO dirty looks today.. Was I deep in thought, concentrating and happened to look his way? Most likely! ______
Spa music and MomDonald's breakfast? Unless it was a guilt thing after a good tongue-lashing or severe penalty punishment, I doubt she pampered them like that. If the truth be known it was probably a chaotic screamfest.She wrote that to quell the media storm she created with that lawsuit. Now she wants people to think her home has turned into a tranquil haven of serenity. She's so transparent.
She gave zero dirty looks "today"? Why is this something she frequently does on other days? Lol. How about I'm sorry I was probably deep in thought (plotting how to wipe my children's father off the face of the earth, it takes concentration!) and I promise to try to smile next time.
If I just filed a lawsuit against ANYONE, I'd have to change my underwear about 3 times a day! I'd be more nervous than a long-tailed cat in a room full of rocking chairs! So, Kate's either full of crap, pretending everything is sunshine, or she really is getting off on this. The tone of her tweets is simply not normal, and if they kids don't have access to her Twitter feed, then who is this crazed behavior for? Jon? maybe Robert? maybe
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Kate Gosselin@Kateplusmy828m @The5antos @miasavin0 Ha! I gave ZERO dirty looks today.. Was I deep in thought, concentrating and happened to look his way? Most likely!
Mia Savino@miasavin011m @The5antos @Kateplusmy8 Yeah Ms. Gosselin.
In 10 - 15 years, I can see her kids confronting her, sadly and angrily recalling the chaos in that household. And TFW will pull out her carefully copied and organized tweets and tell them, "No, children, you have very poor memories. See? I kept very careful records of how lovely and happy our days were. Where did you ever get the idea that it was ever anything different?"
In 10 - 15 years, I can see her kids confronting her, sadly and angrily recalling the chaos in that household. And TFW will pull out her carefully copied and organized tweets and tell them, "No, children, you have very poor memories. See? I kept very careful records of how lovely and happy our days were. Where did you ever get the idea that it was ever anything different?"
I'm not a mommy. Is it usual for 9 year olds to be bathed by their mother?
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I disagree as a parent of a boy and girl. By nine they could certainly bathe alone, maybe help with my daughter's long hair. They were taught how and given privacy & independence.
Nurse TFW, bubble baths are bad for girls; they make them prone to urinary tract infections.
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Bubble baths! I grew up with bubble baths and never had a UTI. My girls have always had bubble baths, and no UTIs. Knock on wood...now watch it happen!
"Parents are often cautioned not to use bubble bath because it can contribute to urinary tract infections (UTIs). But no studies have proven a link between bubble bath and UTIs, says Ranjiv Mathews, associate professor of pediatric urology at Johns Hopkins Children's Center in Baltimore."
I think the jury is still out on that one. From what I've read, if the child is prone to infections, it's probably best to avoid bubble baths, especially if the child is under three. If kids are going to take them, you need to make sure that all of the soap is thoroughly washed off when they're finished because soap is an irritant. But just because a child "might" get a UTI really isn't any reason not to let them have an occasional bubble bath.
Heck, they can get a UTI just being in a wet swim suit at the pool. What's a parent to do? Bring dry swim suits along to the pool and have them change every hour on the hour? You just need to use good old-fashioned common sense.
As to staying up late into the night supposedly preparing all the kids' school materials - yet another example of what a crappy organizer Kate is. She doesn't work, she doesn't volunteer her time anywhere, she has no friends to go and visit -- so she's basically got all the time in the world to prepare the kids for back to school. Does she do it in an orderly fashion, over the two weeks preceding the first of school? Noooooooo, for some reason she puts it all off until the very night before school.
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Her time has been spent having conference calls with attorneys. She finally took some time away from the lawsuit to get the kids ready for their first day.
Not surprised. There's only so much the public can take. Kris hasn't the great mind for business she likes to think she has.
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I wonder how long Kendra's show is going to last. I am by no means a prude, but I've seen commercials for it, and if the show is as raunchy as what's suggested in the ads, I'd be surprised if it makes it off the ground. I guess the network is hoping that sex will sell it to the viewers and that ratings will skyrocket.
She baked 700+ cookies a month ago and stuck them in the freezer, but stayed up late the night before labeling? I'm confused! Wouldn't it make more sense to label everything a month before school starts, and bake fresh cookies the night before? Why does she do everything bass ackwards?
This is totally and utterly imploding. Imploding. Beyond our wildest imaginations (dreams?). I feel like the People interview was the set up and then this latest stunt just exploded on the backs of that. What a total and compete disaster.
But yeah keep on labeling TFW, nothing to see here. She thought people would be impressed she stayed up all night when really it just makes her look disorganized. She doesn't work and had all summer to be ready and could have gotten a good night's sleep last night instead of playing label martyr.
Poor kids. I bet they were so happy to go back to school--their safe haven far away from manic Mommy and imprisonment on the compound--only to hear from their peers that Mommy is suing Daddy and Mommy wants Daddy to go to jail. I looked at some of the videos from J&K+8 listed above, and all I can think is that there is no way that nasty, mean, abusive mother suddenly transformed into a joyous, cheerful, adoring mother who spends every waking moment doing wonderful things for her kids. Those kids have never come first with her. Her hatred, jealousy, and thirst for vengeance has always come first.
The tweeter isn't buying it either :) Kate's fooling noone anymore -----------------------------------------------
Kate Gosselin@Kateplusmy828m @The5antos @miasavin0 Ha! I gave ZERO dirty looks today.. Was I deep in thought, concentrating and happened to look his way? Most likely!
Mia Savino@miasavin011m @The5antos @Kateplusmy8 Yeah Ms. Gosselin.
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Hehehehe...
Someone "bumped" into that meek, dainty, sweet, little flower- causing her to interrupt her deep thoughts, and SHE did not flash him a dirty look?
Yesterday I saw that banana person asking ''Anyone know if Robert Hoffman turned over the discs to the Prosecution?'' Prosecution? I find myself wondering if questions like that are stirring the pot, because it is difficult to believe that they are so unaware of what is actually happening. Are they being deliberately obtuse, or are they really that dense?
Keep quiet, Jon. TFMJG and her fans are doing themselves in, and your silence speaks volumes. Stay the course, and don't say a word, please!
Here's an interesting thought.... since the media is now calling Kate out for what she is, how is this crookbook promo tour going to go? It seems that before, there was always the understanding that Ms. Gosselin would only answer a pre-submitted set of questions which portrayed her in only the brightest light. For some reason, I don't think she has the clout to make such a demand anymore.
Speaking of the crookbook, I sort of made the herbie chicken for dinner. I had boneless chicken tenders and I gave them a light dusting of seasoned flour before sauteeing. I like chicken to have a light crust when it's going to be simmered in a liquid, I think it holds the juices in. I doubled the recipe because I wanted to have enough for leftovers. I didn't have shallots so I sliced a large onion very thinly. I ignored most of her herb suggestions and amounts and used a lighter hand with seasonings we enjoy, like majoram. I served it with smashed baby red potatoes and fresh green beans. My family devoured it and there are no leftovers. It was quite tasty. I know I doubled the recipe but it made a ton of sauce which was delicious over the potatoes. She says the let the broth and wine reduce down to a 1/2 cup. Why? I let it reduce some, not until the pan was almost dry. As with most of her recipes, this one is an exact combination of 2 currently on AllRecipes.
Mia Savino @miasavin0 2h @Kateplusmy8 @The5antos you just wanted to get into the USPS store before him I guess. __________________
LOL! Of course she did, and she probably was parked in the fire lane too, and gave this girl's dad the stink eye. She was probably in a hurry to pick up more reams of legal mumbo jumbo from Mr. Razzamatazz.
Somewhere, CC's Scott and Zondervan's CEO are kicking back on a beach, drinking something from a pineapple. Something blissfully boozy and paper umbrella festooned. Just....... laughing.
sarah @gypsi001 3m Gd eve @Kateplusmy8 .. Just made quinoa for 1st time. It's kinda strange. How do u make it so that the kids like it? ______________
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Get used to it, gypsi. I'm sure you've ordered her cookbook, right?
Two days ago she was everywhere in the news. Today, zip as far as any pap photos. They were there this morning, right? Her photos are not paying off? I thought for sure there would be a photo of her and the kids at the bus stop, you know the kind where she is giving them BIG hugs.
Somewhere, CC's Scott and Zondervan's CEO are kicking back on a beach, drinking something from a pineapple. Something blissfully boozy and paper umbrella festooned.
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lol!! ...and breathing heavy sighs of relief as they chow down on non-organic, fatty, greasy ribs, knowing that TFW would never approve.
sarah @gypsi001 3m Gd eve @Kateplusmy8 .. Just made quinoa for 1st time. It's kinda strange. How do u make it so that the kids like it? ______________
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I don't recall TFW making quinoa. I feel like I would have noticed that since I love it. Maybe I vaguely remember some dumped on a sad little salad?
Why don't they just look at some of the good vegetarian blogs out there? There are hundreds of recipes and surely some are kid friendly. Kids might like it with a Mexican twist, or maybe with chicken. I don't know, it's not the most popular thing for kids and not necessary to make them eat it. Making kids eat something like that is a surefire way to turn kids off from all healthy food in general.
Which reminds me, I find this transition to healthier school lunches so interesting and I've always followed it. In some communities it will be smoother than others. It is a very, very difficult thing to change the diets of kids used to certain things and as someone else mentioned, it's set up to fail and then the big junk food companies can say see we told you, kids won't eat it. I almost wonder if there's got to be some tough love here. I know you don't like it, but you'll get used to it. Offer them a wide variety of choices that are well prepared, but make it clear this is how it's gonna be and it will be fine. It's like switching to skim milk. It tastes like water at first and you want to forget that change. But if you stick with it, it tastes fine eventually and then the milk you used to drink tastes gross.
Somewhere, CC's Scott and Zondervan's CEO are kicking back on a beach, drinking something from a pineapple. Something blissfully boozy and paper umbrella festooned.
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lol!! ...and breathing heavy sighs of relief as they chow down on non-organic, fatty, greasy ribs, knowing that TFW would never approve.
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LOL I picture them in their bermuda shorts toasting their drinks: To sound business decisions! To cleaning house! To karma!
I think that was from Kim way back when. She seems to be someone dealing with a difficult client as she posts little passive aggressive remarks about it lol.
Maybe that lunch meeting was about how Kim would recommend that Kate pay X amount of dollars for a publicist/damage control package, but TFW wanted a 99% off coupon. They never agreed to terms, so TFW never signed up. Oops!
Yesterday I saw that banana person asking ''Anyone know if Robert Hoffman turned over the discs to the Prosecution?''
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Discs? I thought the complaint alleges hard drive, even though Robert says it was the discs. Are the sheeple now acknowledging that it might be discs and not the hard drive?
Following their way of thinking is difficult. Who is the "prosecutor" in this case, and do they still believe that these are criminal charges? Oy.
I noticed two things on twitter. Kate used the word "sentiments" correctly. The girl who tweeted about her father bumping into Kate said they were at the USPS store. Nobody gets between Kate and her freebies.
The story of TFMJG suing her ex was trending #3 out of the 20 top stories on my homepage yesterday morning. Yesterday afternoon, the story was trending at #19. By last night, it wasn't trending. That didn't last long.
The story of TFMJG suing her ex was trending #3 out of the 20 top stories on my homepage yesterday morning. Yesterday afternoon, the story was trending at #19. By last night, it wasn't trending. That didn't last long.
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Explosions usually happen fast. Then the wind blows the smoke away and it's over and all you're left with is some bad quiona recipes and TFW manically, and happily, labeling things.
PJ's Momma, yes, that is the tweet I was thinking of. What are the odds that the two tweets are related and are referering to TFW? Could it be possible that Kim Weiss has another client more difficult than TFW? Naaahhh.. It is fun to speculate on what she was referring to today.
Melissa NV said... 136 ''...Following their way of thinking is difficult. Who is the "prosecutor" in this case, and do they still believe that these are criminal charges? Oy.'' ~~~~~~~~ You're not kidding about trying to follow their way of thinking. From the ''prosecutor'' comment, it seems to me that they DO think these are criminal charges. Not only criminal, but FEDERAL criminal charges. That is why I keep shaking my head and wondering how it is possible to be so uninformed, especially since they are such fans of TFMJG.
They STILL can't get off this criminal thing?? "Prosecutor" shouldn't even enter into the equation. If a prosecutor was ever involved, they have long since passed on pressing any chargers. These people are as stubborn as potty training a new puppy. No matter how many times you beg them to for the love of God just go potty, they don't get it.
Somehow I don't think the authors of "Attached at the Heart: Eight Proven Parenting Principles for Raising Connected and Compassionate Children" and "For the Love of God: True Stories of Faith, Fellowship, and Divine Intervention" are the ones giving poor Kim Weiss heartburn.
Maybe we should send her some Coronas to wash down that Mexican food.
What's interesting about Kim is that she tweets and facebooks a lot about books being released, events, authors, etc. Her twitter feed and facebook page are really full of very interesting stuff. She hasn't said a word about Kate's book yet. Maybe she waits until they're nearing release or something.
One other thing...I went to TFW's blog for the first time the other day. Now I'm no web designer but I do know that if you right-click when over the web page then select View Source, you can see the html for the page. If you do that then go to the very bottom, the hit counter looks weird. It almost appears that there are several on there. If someone out there that is more web-savvy could take a look and comment, maybe we could clear up that issue. The counter definitly does go up in multiples of hits each time you refresh the page. And it seems to go up in a random amount so as not to appear rigged.
PJ I actually really believe in all seriousness Kate did NOT buy HCI's promotion package. I think she has separate people running the PR aspect of this, people she's known before who helped her. Perhaps that was part of her negotiation of the package. I think HCI would have said a lot more by now. Even though this book isn't much, it's really better than most everything else they've got to offer.
Is this the Australia fan that Gladys was pestering and couldn't find? If so, guess she found her...she set up a new Twitter ID!
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 2h @undercovermumma Well...seems I have found where me awesome gal went! Undercover LITERALLY....did U wish 2b found? :) I followed.
These people are as stubborn as potty training a new puppy. No matter how many times you beg them to for the love of God just go potty, they don't get it.
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lol!! Don't you just want to say to some of those fans, "Poop or get off the pot!" There's something in their brain wiring that, no matter how many times you try to explain something (even in the most simple terms) they can't get it. Wouldn't you think, though, that they at least could google criminal charges vs.civil suits and why there isn't any prosecutor involved in this particular action? Then again, it could be that the term "prosecutor" is confusing and they think that any attorney for a plaintiff is a prosecutor.
Sleepless In Seattle said... 151 Is this the Australia fan that Gladys was pestering and couldn't find? If so, guess she found her...she set up a new Twitter ID!
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 2h @undercovermumma Well...seems I have found where me awesome gal went! Undercover LITERALLY....did U wish 2b found? :) I followed. ________
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 13m IN MY BOOK!:) http://www.kateplusmy8.com/ RT @gypsi001: @Kateplusmy8 ..made quinoa for 1st time. It's..strange.How do u make it so kids like it?
Admin said... "So, it's possible that TFW won't even be happy once she accomplishes what she sets out to do, terminate parental rights.
In seriousness, I wonder if it's exhausting and uncomfortable to be entrapped in such wild and irrational emotions. Or if it's just their normal and they feel just fine."
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No, it's not possible. My sister has had NPD, Bipolar Disorder, ADHD since birth. The characteristic of a borderline personality is extreme highs and lows. Everyone suffers around them, when they are miserable. TFW is likely up late in the night, crying her eyes out in a manic state. The obvious cure is having emotional support. TFW has cut everyone off. Imagine becoming a new lover or even worse... her BFF. Ugh- SWF comes to mind.
Hoffman won't post or talk, until he absolutely has to-- I think. He wants TFMJG to wait it out. I love his style.
TLC stinks says…………… She mentions drinking tons of coffee this a.m. I swear, I think the woman is addicted to caffeine. No wonder her post was manic. And..... Admin says…… Whoa that post WAS manic. No paragraphs, run on tangents that are hard to follow, excessive punctuation, and I counted three happies.
And someone posted earlier, I can't find it now, something to the effect that if she had just filed a lawsuit she would be having the runs.
Not TFW! Super fun lawsuit. Her behavior is so off the charts. her over the top glee as she enters into a lawsuit. Of course none of us understand it. I think its a power trip for TFW. The melt downs and manic highs and lots of caffeine, who could stand it?
I have been reading here for awhile, but only recently have been commenting. I love the posts, interesting, funny without getting ugly. I wish I had saved the recent Charlie Babbit comment, lol. I can't find it now but applaud the comparison.
In one of the counts, Kate is seeking damages based on a Pennsylvania Statute.
Sorry Kate, but a Federal District court has NO JURISDICTION whatsoever with state laws.
A Federal District Court cannot grant compensation based on state statute. It's a violation of the 10th Amendment plus other Constitutional case laws.
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Whoa, you're right. UNLESS there is no particular federal statute that covers that cause of action. Then I think they can use state law. Basically I believe it's federal law applies first unless no federal law exists, then you can stop down to state law.
Speaking in that same vein, I'm pretty sure they have to follow whatever the federal SOL is for the fed provisions they are citing. It would be irrelevant what PA's SOL is.
He opens the page now with links that quote Razzamatazz, TFW's attorney, about how the book "damaged Kate's reputation."
He then has the gazillion links from all over the media that have slammed Kate over the years...
...and at the bottom of the site, he quotes again, "It's damaged her reputation."
In other words, TFW - your reputation was ALREADY DAMAGED before the book...and as Hoffman points out on his website, his book was out for a whole TWO days before it was pulled...
I have never met Robert Hoffman, but I would bow down in his presence if I were to meet him!
"SLAPP suits are all-too common and are a scourge on our legal landscape. Personally, they have been good for me, as I earn a significant income by defending these kinds of suits, but as much as I love money, I love free speech more (and I'm sure that I could sell that time elsewhere). A SLAPP suit is a "Strategic Lawsuit Against Public Participation." In other words, it is a lawsuit that some hosebag files against a critic -- not because he hopes to win anything, but because the mere filing of the suit is punishment enough for the critic. Lawsuits are expensive, and when a rich douchebag has plenty of money to spend on attorneys's fees, he can afford to sue a couple of critics, thus scaring the bejesus out of anyone else who might criticize him."
Mark J Randazza, March 4, 2010 blog entry ("Could A National Anti-SLAPP Law Be On the Horizon)
That's another thing. What are her "damages" in this suit, really. You can't break a plate that's already broken. She may have a heck of a time proving damages beyond anything but the fair market value of the electronics, and even then there's a fair argument Jon had every right to take those, both because it was martial property and because it was by the side of the road.
@Kateplusmy8 @XKimmieCX What brand are the kids shoes I want a pair if they have them in adult sizes?
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Oh my.
You wonder why some of the fans have a difficult time with understanding a civil suit. Making a salad with tomatoes, onion and cucumbers needs to be mastered first.
Someone asked in this last set about how soon there would be a court hearing. Jon and Robert proably have 30 days from personal service of the summons and complaint to file their answers and their respective attorneys may file paperwork to dismiss the case for various reasons, Statute of Limitations for one. Otherwise there isn't likely to be a court hearing until after all the discovery, interrogatories, depositions and the like have been completed. I've been out of the field for 15 years so possibly my view is outdated. And Federal court may work differently than state. So much is electronically done these days ...
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 181 Poor sheep indeed, chef. By the time they finally get their recipe for cucumber salad, they won't feel like it anymore. ________________
Maybe by then she'll have a craving for "excessive" LEMON hummus.
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 2h @The5antos @miasavin0 Ha! I gave ZERO dirty looks today.. Was I deep in thought, concentrating and happened to look his way? Most likely! ______________________________________
As opposed to the 15-20 dirty looks she usually gives to the mediocre masses on every other day.
The dirty looks tally! Little hash marks lined up by date. I have a little notebook in my back pocket where I can keep track of mine in case anyone ever accuses me of such a terrible thing.
Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said... 185 Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 181 Poor sheep indeed, chef. By the time they finally get their recipe for cucumber salad, they won't feel like it anymore. ________________
Maybe by then she'll have a craving for "excessive" LEMON hummus. ______
You're giving the sheep to much credit lol they can't make salad.
I'm pretty sure they need KK's help in knowing how to juice a lemon for the hummus. lol
that razzamatazz lawyerish guy ( to use Kate speak) apparantly loves getting rich off of douchebags with lots of money who can afford to lay SLAPP suits without a hope to win, because they are just hosebags who want revenge...
He does like it, but hey its moola!!!
So... did he just say TFW has a lot of money... and is a douchebag and a a hosebag...oooo...
TFW you best be careful or your BVish guy might end up going after your lawyerish guy.
Pardon my grammer...but I's think ya lost it girlie! May Jon get full custody of those kids.
I have seen those cardboard things. They are what fabric rolls are on. They are thick and have a sting to them when they are smacked against you...and they do not break easily. we have had to use a saw to cut them up.
What is that thing? It's not a spoon. Unless it's an empty paper towel core it would leave some nasty bruises.
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It's a cardboard cylinder of a plastic stretch wrap roll like Saran Wrap. They are more dense and much harder than a paper towel roll cylinder and probably have the same spanker effect as the wooden spoon if you were wacked with it. Ouch.
I believe the judge will either hear this lawsuit minus the PA law or send it to PA court minus the Federal law. She can't have it both ways. (Dear sheeple, they call this double jeopardy.)
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I thought that double jeopardy means that, after an acquittal or conviction, the defendant can't be charged again for the same crime.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 188 The dirty looks tally! Little hash marks lined up by date. I have a little notebook in my back pocket where I can keep track of mine in case anyone ever accuses me of such a terrible thing.
****** I put pebbles in my shoe. If I can walk when I get home I know I was charming today.
It's a cardboard cylinder of a plastic stretch wrap roll like Saran Wrap. They are more dense and much harder than a paper towel roll cylinder and probably have the same spanker effect as the wooden spoon if you were wacked with it. Ouch. ________________
That could be difficult to explain if it was "discovered" doncha think? I mean I'm a mom and I didn't carry one of those around with me, keep it by my side when I was sitting in my lounge chair. Whatever could be the reason? Hmmmmm.
Chefsummer, very funny! So many things to laugh at here today! Dmasy, I meant to mention this before, but I love the multiple socks in your new avatar! I was just reading some info from federal court website, basic stuff about what happens in a case before it even makes it to trial. It could be months before the defendants respond, usually its 30 days but the court website said more time can be requested. If it got dismissed even that might take several months. If.it ever went to trial, which seems doubtful thanks to info all the informed posters here have noted, all the kids could be teenagers by then! Theses things can drag on for years and years! TFMJG probably assumed that as soon as things were filed, she would get immediate satisfaction. Looking at the Paula Deen case, it was fully over one year from the date of filing when discovery was still going on. That Paula Deen lawyers baked at. That caused Lisa Jackson lawyers to carry out actions they warned about before the case was even filed. Those actions were to TELL THE TRUTH. and to make sure Paula Deen s own words from her own deposition were circulated far and wide. Oh my goodness. TFMJG will have to sit for a deposition too. Her own words will deliver the final blow to her ” career”. I loved the clips GMA picked to show today. Even anyone who had never seen her before would think that she was the most annoying woman on earth after seeing those clips. When the new DWTS cat is announce, you just know someone on GMA is going to ask Tony how he ever put up with her. And of he refrains from answering, someone will joke that he is afraid of TFMJG suing him too! Oh my, TFMJG has no idea of what she has done.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 188 The dirty looks tally! Little hash marks lined up by date. I have a little notebook in my back pocket where I can keep track of mine in case anyone ever accuses me of such a terrible thing. -------- Is there an app for that?
That could be difficult to explain if it was "discovered" doncha think? I mean I'm a mom and I didn't carry one of those around with me, keep it by my side when I was sitting in my lounge chair. Whatever could be the reason? Hmmmmm.
976 sediments (sic) from readers:
«Oldest ‹Older 601 – 800 of 976 Newer› Newest»I am very familiar with the Betty Broderick case. I have letters from her. She STILL blames Dan for her circumstances. She is the victim and he deserved to die -- her stance.
One of her letters is so full of anger that the punctuation on fierce sentences actually pierces the lined paper.
I think there are parallels in the Kate/Betty story.
This might be a stupid question or already answered, but why would TFW sue Jon civiilly and not criminally for the ID theft and hacking charges?
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Because private citizens can't sue criminally. Prosecutors decide that. You can alert them and ask them to sue, but the decision to go after someone criminally is up to the prosecutor's office, not Kate. I guess no meant no to them. Her only option if she is not happy with the prosecutor's decision is to then sue him herself in civil court.
The easiest way to understand this is the OJ case. The state of CA went after him criminally. But Nicole's family went after him civilly.
So, it's possible that TFW won't even be happy once she accomplishes what she sets out to do, terminate parental rights.
In seriousness, I wonder if it's exhausting and uncomfortable to be entrapped in such wild and irrational emotions. Or if it's just their normal and they feel just fine.
How sad that the kids have to deal with this on their first day of school. The twins must be absolutely mortified. I'm glad to see the humor here--but, mostly I am just very sad.
Yes. I've always felt that way...the snark is fun, but at the end all I feel is sad for the children.
Re-posting this link. I don't think it went through the first time. This is GMA talking about the lawsuit.
http://gma.yahoo.com/video/kate-gosselin-sues-ex-alleged-122529356.html
It is indeed very sad, heartbreaking really, she had to do this just when they are back to school, and the great publicity stunt that backfired on her means that now the kids are probably hearing just as much hazing about their mother as their father who is the target of this in the first place.
On the flip side, maybe they need to hear this. They just might come home and shake some sense into Kate. They are plenty old enough to understand she is being made a fool of, and to be terribly upset about that and plead with her to stop. I doubt she would listen, but you never know. It's worth a shot.
The first day of school should be all about them. Now, it's going to be all about their parents. So f-ed up.
I like how GMA showed all the worst clips of TFW being a total shrew, and made sure to emphasize that this is all over accusations of CHILD ABUSE.
I cannot imagine how many tens of thousands of people are now suddenly hearing this and getting curious about it. Child abuse? Exactly what did she do and how can I find out more?
Good job, Kate. Just, really good job here. The child abuse was FORGOTTEN. Forgotten!! Now it's front and center. What a fool she is. An utter fool.
"She pushed it one too many times and the public turned on her. Wouldn't this be mortifying for a normal person?"
If you look at her documented behavior, it's clear that she cares very deeply about what others (even strangers) think of her. Didn't Robert say that she used to keep a file on her PC with a list of the "bad blogs"? What other "celebrity" would go to such lengths to silence random Joe critics? Even her stupid cookbook makes it clear that she reads every single thing someone says about her, because it's full of sentence after sentence that addresses specific things people have said about her (I could list examples here, but then I'd have to go back and read the sample again). So if negative press bothered her before, you can bet it bothers her now, only now she doesn't have the might of TLC behind her to spin the stories in her favor.
When you think about it, it's actually quite sad and pity-inducing that she is so deeply insecure, isn't it?
Did you see the part where he said they claim they got the info from the trash and we look forward to exploring that in discovery?
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What a mess. This isn't a small town in New Hampshire where it is illegal to go through trash left at the curb. So either Robert got it in the trash or he didn't. Sounds like they really aren't sure about anything.
Did you see the part where he said they claim they got the info from the trash and we look forward to exploring that in discovery?
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Shouldn't this attorney put a gag order on himself? Why is he talking about this?
I can't imagine what Razzmatazz thinks he'll learn in discovery that he doesn't already know. Kate says Jon stole a hard drive, Robert says he found the discs in the trash. He has a detailed diary of his exploits picking her trash and he took pictures. Unless there's security camera video showing Jon removing the hard drive and handing it to Robert, it's still a he said, she said case. And Robert said the discs have a sort of digital footprint on them that shows they weren't tampered with or updated. To top it off, there's even a police report (thanks to Kate) which can document his story that she wanted Jon out and vowed to throw away anything he left behind. If he has the discs and quoted her journal verbatim, they can't claim he defamed her. She defamed herself.
With all this negative publicity, what would be the chances of HCI cancelling her cookbook? Especially with sales numbers so low? Even if she is paying for all the costs up front, it can't be good for HCI to be associated with her?
Shouldn't this attorney put a gag order on himself? Why is he talking about this?
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I have no idea. He should have said no comment or at the most said Robert says he got it from the trash, my client adamantly denies that and we are confident we will prove otherwise.
This whole, oh we'll have to explore whether this trash thing mighta happened, is bizarre and just cracked open a huge weakness in their case. It's clear they don't know whatsoever. Sounds like they're just going by whatever convoluted story Kate told them and based a lawsuit around her paranoid fantasy of what MIGHT have happened. They don't seem to have the slightest proof that the original explanation of getting it from the trash isn't absolutely 100% true. They seem to just be hoping something will come out in discovery that supports their other bizarre contention.
As Dot said, it is a he said she said. It will simply come down to a credibility call. And you never want to base your whole case on a judge or jury making a simple credibility call. That's a crap shoot to try to avoid at all costs. You want PROOF.
I wonder if TLC or it's head honcho has said "RELEASE THE HOUNDS!"
FINALLY true reporting from mainstream news outlets. YES it's about the abuse. It's always been about the abuse. Abuse of power, authority, funds, contracts, bosses, sponsors, charities, donors,viewers, family, neighbors,
volunteers, husbands, CHILDREN, PETS
I agree with what so many others have said here in that Kate thoroughly hates Jon. And the parallel with Kate and Betty Brodrick is scary.
The other thing I keep thinking about is Kate has only gone after Jon. She didn't sue CC when she was fired, or The Stir, or TLC. No, she goes after the person who was weak and without financial means to fight her. Only this time she miscalculated. Jon may not have the money to fight her but there are more people on his side than ever before. Jon is no longer weak (IMO) because she utterly and feciously destroyed him. He's ready for the fight. The other thing she miscaluated was the public's opinion of her. She thought she was all that and more, and could do not wrong. Ha! Based on what I've read, especially the comments, people are seeing through her lies and want her to disappear from public.
When this comes to trial, Kate will not be in the same position she was when she went through the divorce. People are done with her and Jon is ready for her. Dare I say Kate has met her Waterloo.
She misjudged this by a MILE! I mean this is the misjudgment of the century. She has the entire GMA laughing at her, calling her a child abuser, and making sure to emphasize she is FORMER everything. I wonder if she is reflecting on any of this or still just farting away rainbows.
You are right, TLC must be getting a little pissed right now. I wonder if they will intervene. Indirectly, this comes back to them, because they had a child abuser on their payroll. If this gets out of control, at a certain point they may fear this is reflecting poorly on them. I wonder if they'll try to do anything.
The plot thickens!
It's strange how Hailey Glassman gave TFMJG those texts messages from Jon's phone then had a major meltdown when Kate talked about using them in a lawsuit. It seemed really odd that she'd threaten to sue TFMJG over using them in court when she's the one who gave them to her.
I've always thought the texts sounded fake, like Hailey took Jon's phone and sent them to her phone. They're too wordy and too incriminating. I bet a lawyer warned her that those had better be legit or she's in deep trouble and that caused her to freak out. Nothing else explains her reaction. Maybe it could be proven that Hailey's phone was in the same room as Jon's phone at the time they were sent. Stranger things have happened in this psychodrama.
Thanks, Berks, from all of us here in Canada, for the clickable link to GMA. That was really refreshing to watch. Finally, a real news organization seem to have her number!
And, -maybe my memory is playing tricks on me again-, but wasn't TFW booked for an appearance at GMA in September? Or was it still "pending", lol?
Robert called Kate a child abuser and the suit said he defamed her. I'd so love to see TLC hand over the unedited Kate tapes. You know, all the stuff they couldn't show. I'd have to go to PA to witness that.
Thank you GMA for putting the correct spin on this sordid mess. In a headline spin sans celebrity: Unemployed mother of 8 takes childrens' savings to file lawsuit against their father accusing him of stealing from her trash.
Yes, she has seriously misjudged this one. Her mental illness has pushed her deep, deep in a hole, fueled by whom, close crazy internet friends? It is really obvious that there is no one in her life to keep her from doing ridiculous things. I would hope HCI will reconsider publishing this toxic mess.
I'll tell you what made no sense to me about the Hailey Glassman thing. She said her mother was upset and couldn't sleep, etc., and didn't want any more Gosselin drama in their lives. That was the reason Hailey gave for not cooperating with Kate, however within days she was telling Radar SHE was going to sue Kate. Isn't that bringing Gosselin drama into their lives? Why would her mother be okay with that? Something is definitely fishy.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 14
She misjudged this by a MILE! I mean this is the misjudgment of the century. She has the entire GMA laughing at her, calling her a child abuser, and making sure to emphasize she is FORMER everything. I wonder if she is reflecting on any of this or still just farting away rainbows.
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I believe Kate thought the professionals on GMS and the Today Show and ET and AH etc, etc.. were her contemporaries, her equals and that what they did, she could do too. Just like that.
She's never been on equal footing. What she has been is a ratings draw to be used, then discarded like yesterday's newspaper.
She thought her fame didn't have an expiration date.
Kate is Vile said... 15
It's strange how Hailey Glassman gave TFMJG those texts messages from Jon's phone then had a major meltdown when Kate talked about using them in a lawsuit. It seemed really odd that she'd threaten to sue TFMJG over using them in court when she's the one who gave them to her.
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It IS curious why she'd flip out when TFW said she wanted to use the texts in the lawsuit. I read about text "spoofing". Is it possible Hailey might have done this and why BV said he can "verify" that it is indeed Jon's number? Would she have known how to do that, or been shown by a techie how to do it?
"SMS Spoofing occurs when a sender manipulates address information. Often it is done in order to impersonate a user that has roamed onto a foreign network and is submitting messages to the home network."
The whole article:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMS_spoofing
I cannot imagine how many tens of thousands of people are now suddenly hearing this and getting curious about it. Child abuse? Exactly what did she do and how can I find out more?
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And here's where one gets into the psychological/sociological aspect of it. She's become a laughingstock. People are fed up with her, as evidenced by the negative comments both after she was on the magazine cover last week, and now in the wake of the lawsuit. And still, there are some die-hard fans who either aren't aware of the backlash she's receiving, or they do know, and they still proclaim her the most awesome mom on the planet. To them, she walks on water. They want to be just like her. Why? Young and gullible, maybe, and immaturity goes along with it, but what about the adults? Are they still stuck at a place where they think like teens?
What is it in their brains that just won't allow them to take a critical look at her and her actions? I do believe, though, that after this, fans will be dropping like flies. Moreover, there is a sub group of fans who, although they may have started out in their defense of Kate, moved on to this fight with the haters, and the fascination with Kate took a back seat...the whole RWA thing, who did what to whom, who outed whom, who stole passwords to blog sites, the general infighting. For them, Kate and the kids are secondary...it's this online battle, tearing one another apart that preoccupies them.
Then you have yet another sub group -- the BV gang and the fans who have aligned themselves with him and salute his outings and tactics. I don't think this really has anything to do with Kate per se, but rather they think that because they've become members of his select group, they're tough...in the in-crowd (especially the one fan who couldn't make up her mind which side she was on). Tough talk, obscenities, the more the better, and they're happy campers.
It's fascinating the way this thing is unfolding. What's tragic is that the children are helpless victims in all of it, pawns in this whole horrible game that her actions are responsible for setting into motion.
You are right, TLC must be getting a little pissed right now. I wonder if they will intervene. Indirectly, this comes back to them, because they had a child abuser on their payroll
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This is a tinderbox with a poised match.
I never believed TLC, the crew and the entire editing team didn't see abuse. Too long hours, repeating scenes, staging scenes, and probably seeing corporal punishment.
Not only did they have a child abuser on their payroll, but they had a pedophile too.
Here's a scoop-- did TLC have a pedophile employed (or Figure 8 Productions, which edited the footage), who had access to any and all footage of the kids, while he was under investigation by the FBI?
Yes, it's unfortunate that TLC is no longer pulling the media strings to protect Kate. Let the fun continue...
I imagine this very sad event, my husband, the father of our children, after having gone through so much together, he is leaving for good, he is carrying his belongings down from over the garage in trash bags and boxes, it is raining. He has one friend helping him. So what do I do? With the children in the house, rain, night, end of a marriage, belongings in trash bags, I would be on my bed in tears, or have left the house. The thing I would never do is escalate the misery by calling the police because his lone friend helping him through this task at one of the lowest points in his life is a reporter. Makes my blood run cold.
With that kind of vengeance I have to believe she demanded action from her attorneys back in 2009 when she discovered the alleged "hacking" and they said no.
It seems she won't be happy until he is destroyed.
This is all a result of her actions.
I spoke too soon. TFMJG will be back on the news when shows need a punchline or a good laugh. TFMJG will be back on The Soup and maybe even late night talk shows so they can show old footage of her behaving horribly to Jon, Tony, Ashley, everyone! Maybe Tony will even go back on Anderson and tell us how he REALLY feels about her!
TFW has made a tactical mistake by filing this SLAPP suit. Now she is being tried in the court of public opinion and it's not a pretty sight. The entertainment industry has gone from looking at her as a joke to realizing she is extremely litigious. She has way too much baggage to ever get a show of her own and if she has plans for Mady I don't think that will work out. Agents and Producers will be very aware that Mady's mother is sue happy and they'll simply move on to the next candidate. The Industry is rather insular and people talk, she's given them plenty to talk about now. TFW you overplayed your hand. You did this to yourself and no good will ever come from it.
TFW uses a lot of victim words and it seems now not only her critics, but the media and social media aren't buying it. "Bullied," "haters," single-mom," "survivor," and alleging her then husband "hacked" her computer in 2009.
Knowing they were headed for divorce, and the computer was part of the personal property within their home, and the content of the information within the computer, I think most adults will identify with Jon. With the knowledge that some very expensive, very powerful attorneys are being paid for by the media outlet and suing you for $500k, who in their right mind would leave without taking such information?
I think this suit is an enormous mistake.
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As Dot said, it is a he said she said. It will simply come down to a credibility call. And you never want to base your whole case on a judge or jury making a simple credibility call. That's a crap shoot to try to avoid at all costs. You want PROOF.
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If this case were to go to trial, I would suggest that Jon demand a trial by jury. Kate is immensely unlikeable. Jon is almost the opposite, as most people find him likeable or at least pleasant and cordial. Years ago, an attorney I worked for had a case where the plaintiffs were very sympathetic but had a weak case. However, one of the defense witnesses made a terrible impression on the jury. She was an attractive woman in her 40's, and she came across as snotty, full of herself, cold and uncaring. The jury found in favor for the plaintiff and awarded a huge amount in damages. I believe this was in no small part to really, really disliking this defense witness.
Let the jury hear testimony from both Kate and Jon, and let's see which one they would rather believe: the cold, calculating, full of herself Kate; or the soft-spoken, friendly and sympathetic Jon.
I Googled Betty Broderick parole to see when she was last denied parole. It was late 2011 and this is what they said in denying her parole:
"Your heart is still bitter, and you are still angry, said Board of Prison Terms Commissioner Robert Doyle. He continued, "You show no significant progress in evolving. You are still back 20 years ago in that same mode. You've got to move on."
Can you imagine still carrying that kind of anger 22 years after the death of the person you feel caused that anger?
Anyone know what this is?
Newspusher Celebrity @NP_Celebrities 9m
EXCLUSIVE: Kate Gosselin is asked if everything will be ok with her lawsuit against Jon Gosselin while dropping... http://dlvr.it/3sxvkB
http://tinyurl.com/pjp7wl7
Looks like someone sold a video to this site, who is now selling it?
Hmmm
http://ijnet.org/stories/newspusher-seeks-video-submissions-freelancers
Another question. Why did Kate choose to sue Jon but not Robert? Suing Jon would not stop the release of Robert's book would it? I guess I don't understand why she is suing Jon for the stuff that Robert is putting in his book but not also suing Robert.
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Is Kate still going on her crookbook tour? I wonder how she can show her face after this bogus law suit.
Those poor kids. They must really be teased even behind their backs at school. The other parents must speak of this and their kids could hear all of this and repeat it.
Nobody can think they are all that like she does.
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"She misjudged this by a MILE! I mean this is the misjudgment of the century."
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I agree. I think she really thought that people would be sympathetic to her plight as a "single mom" of 8 just trying "piece and patch" together an income to provide for her family.
She totally underestimated the public's bullshit tolerance level. You can only cry wolf so many times before the villagers start ignoring you.
And really, how many people knew about Mr. Hoffman's book before she filed the lawsuit?
And how many know about it now?
SMH
I wonder what atty Razzmatazz thinks of all the negative publicity. Is he having second thoughts about being the public face for TFW and her lunatic ravings? I hope the blowback lands at least partly on him, for taking on such a ridiculous case.
I wish Jon could get 100% custody of the children. I do worry so much for them and their safety when they are with their mother. She is going deeper and deeper into mental illness. She has no one left who can control her, like "head of security" Skeeve.
Mental illness, left untreated, only gets worse and worse. Maybe the filing of this lawsuit, the subsequent publishing of Hoffman's reconfigured book, and other evidence of instability would encourage the family law judge to agree to give Jon full custody, if he asked for it.
I thought Hailey freaked out because her parents were upset and did not want her involved, maybe even threatened to cut her off. Seems like I read that somewhere, maybe here, :0
School photo up! Boys have tie shoes at least.
"It drives Mady and Cara CRAZY when I purposely use incorrect english "states TFW
Other gripes involved the new bread, which students don’t want to eat because it’s brown wheat bread, and the new milk, which is skim or one percent fat, not two percent or whole. The cafeteria’s chocolate- and strawberry-flavored milk offerings are now nonfat.
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Wheat bread is definitely better than white bread and contains more nutrients. I'd have to actually see the bread provided, because many wheat breads are quite delicious. As to the milk choices, I'm not sure. My child is approaching age 16. He's always been skinny. His metabolism burns at a high rate. So he gets whole milk, because he needs those calories.
I still pack a lunch for my son because he doesn't like cafeteria food. If I were a parent on the lunch program, I think I might pack some extra choices for my child, to supplement the lunch program. Some pretzels, a bagel w/cream cheese, half a sandwich, whatever.
I know childhood obesity is a problem in this country, but I think it's more than just simple eating habits. Kids are more sedentary, what with the advent of video games, 100's of channels on TV, etc. Not to mention, eating lots more fast food and having soda, chips, etc.
When I was a child, having a meal from McDonald's or A&W was an occasional, special thing. I doubt we were treated to McDonald's more than once a month, if that. Soda was also an occasional special beverage, saved for a birthday party or something similar. Otherwise, we had milk or water, and orange juice (small glass) for breakfast. The first time I saw a family sit down to dinner and pour soda into their glasses, I was shocked. I had never seen such a thing!
Rain said... 25
I imagine this very sad event, my husband, the father of our children, after having gone through so much together, he is leaving for good, he is carrying his belongings down from over the garage in trash bags and boxes, it is raining. He has one friend helping him. So what do I do? With the children in the house, rain, night, end of a marriage, belongings in trash bags, I would be on my bed in tears, or have left the house. The thing I would never do is escalate the misery by calling the police because his lone friend helping him through this task at one of the lowest points in his life is a reporter. Makes my blood run cold.
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Wow. I didn't know about him having to leave at night and in the rain. Or that Herr Kate Von Bitch had called the police. Good grief. She is unrelentingly cruel.
She wouldn't have cried I'm sure, but I'll bet Jon did.
foxy said... 34
Is Kate still going on her crookbook tour? I wonder how she can show her face after this bogus law suit.
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Of course she is still going so she can be away with Steve and get the star treatment.
So KK called to police on Jon & Robert in 2009?
So what not then bring up them stealing her property while the police were at the house?
If she did that the police could have searched Jon or Roberts possessions.
So, it seems Kate's Twittersode of the kids' last day of vacation and return to school has resulted in some paps at the bus stop this morning.
That one was just too easy to call.
But wait, there's more! Tune in to K8+my8.com and see their smiling faces going to school!!
Oh, and buy my cookbook.
What a confusing life the kids must have. Maybe Kate has turned off all tv's and computers and cell phones so that they haven't gotten wind of the lawsuit, because according to Kate, everything is just HAPPY, HAPPY, HAPPY in Gosselinland.
Wow, Kate's "kids first day back at school" post is manic.
Penelope's baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack!
Can Robert Hoffman release his book before this "trial" or "discovery" happens? How about Jon's book; can he release his book on September 24? Jon has said "I may flip-out soon". Maybe when Jon wins he'll ask court to take away Gosselin from Kate. If anyone is being hurt it's Jon's name.
"Another question. Why did Kate choose to sue Jon but not Robert?"
The legal filing clearly states that she is suing both of them.
Marie, she is suing Robert also. She accuses him of being Jon's business partner and co-conspirator.
EXCLUSIVE: Kate Gosselin is asked if everything will be ok with her lawsuit against Jon Gosselin while dropping off her children to 1st day of school
Those poor kids. No wonder Milo said that TFW had prepared them. TFW sure was angling for the paps to be there this morning.
What? The paps? How did they know it was the first day of school? What? From my tweet saying it was?
Oh my! I didn't know they read those! Oh me, oh my! I had no idea!
I thought that nasty Jon sent them!
I think Mrs. Glassman must truly regret the day that she contacted Kate Gosselin to offer up the free tummy tuck. BTW, did Dr. Glassman get paid by TLC for his appearance? Did TLC cover any of his expense for the procedure? Does Hailey still live at home? What does she do for a living?
Okay, thanks for the responses. Another probably dumb question. Can Robert still release his book as this is going on or has she gotten an injunction against the book?
Marie
Cutting Room Floor said... 17
Robert called Kate a child abuser and the suit said he defamed her. I'd so love to see TLC hand over the unedited Kate tapes. You know, all the stuff they couldn't show. I'd have to go to PA to witness that.
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You can see it even edited if you pay close attention:
In this clip, at 15:11 you can hear them tell Leah not to put her hand in her mouth and when she does it again, there is a sudden cut and next thing you know, Leah is crying, holding her arm, while Kate's hand is withdrawing.She clearly smacked her:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2I_4OVy7JaA
In the same episode, a similar incident involving mady occurs, starting at around 19:20.You can see Mady holding her chest/arm and hear her say to Kate while sobbing: "You're mean! Daddy!"
In this one, at 5:37 Jon sends Collin to the corner, you can see Collin is quiet at the corner then the camera cuts and again, in the next shot Jon brings a shrieking Collin back at the table:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfuP3S2b1Zc
In this one, at 2:04 Alexis cringes like she expects to be hit with the stick:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RKrcalX8eE
Here at 10:02 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRV1zsKy-6c , here at 4:24 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-LFbuVDt7U you can see simial objects in Kate's hand whilte sending the misbehaving kids in time out and in both cases there is a cut during which the sticks(or whatever they are) could have been used especially since both boys are sobbing by the time they reach the corner.
Sadly, the examples could continue.So yeah, imagine what went on with the cameras off :(
Does anyone remember that full of crap episode called Discipline where they spend an hour talking about how they only use time outs as punishment? Yeah...
"The kids happily unloaded from my bus, onto the school bus….I guess they are “all growed up” (haha terrible grammar; sorry, just had to! It drives Mady and Cara CRAZY when I purposely use incorrect english–> wait, “growed” isn’t even a word at all, period. Oh well! My blog post. I’ll write what I want!:) because they didn’t want me to get out and walk them to the bus — even on the first day!!! They said “we’re big now, mom!'”
Happy, happy, joy, joy in Kate Gosselin's world.
You know the more I think of it I believe Kate is trying to convince herself more so than her handful of fans that everything is happy happy joy joy in her house. It really is satrting to verge on desperation.
Does Hailey still live at home? What does she do for a living?
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I think I read that Hailey was cast in a reality tv show about young women trying to make it in NYC, a la "Girls". I think that Lena Dunham is involved, too.
Here it is:
http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2013/02/lena-dunham-girls-reality-tv-show-hailey-glassman/
Marie, my guess is that Robert has worked with attorneys to make sure this time his book passes muster. People write unauthorized biographies all the time. What killed Robert, IMO, were his personal comments instead of just stating the facts and letting the reader draw their own conclusions.
I would think Jon could write his own autobiography or memoir as he sees fit. It's his life and his recollections and his opinions. However, an attorney would probably discourage him with a lawsuit hanging over his head to release anything at present. It's a delay tactic on Kate's part to file a lawsuit and I suspect she has applied pressure on him to never write about their life.
Whoa that post WAS manic. No paragraphs, run on tangents that are hard to follow, excessive punctuation, and I counted three happies.
The reality is I don't think she's happy at all. Happy people wouldn't do what she did.
Symptoms
By Mayo Clinic staff
Narcissistic personality disorder is characterized by dramatic, emotional behavior, which is in the same category as antisocial and borderline personality disorders.
Narcissistic personality disorder symptoms may include:
Believing that you're better than others
Fantasizing about power, success and attractiveness
Exaggerating your achievements or talents
Expecting constant praise and admiration
Believing that you're special and acting accordingly
Failing to recognize other people's emotions and feelings
Expecting others to go along with your ideas and plans
Taking advantage of others
Expressing disdain for those you feel are inferior
Being jealous of others
Believing that others are jealous of you
Trouble keeping healthy relationships
Setting unrealistic goals
Being easily hurt and rejected
Having a fragile self-esteem
Appearing as tough-minded or unemotional
Although some features of narcissistic personality disorder may seem like having confidence or strong self-esteem, it's not the same. Narcissistic personality disorder crosses the border of healthy confidence and self-esteem into thinking so highly of yourself that you put yourself on a pedestal. In contrast, people who have healthy confidence and self-esteem don't value themselves more than they value others.
When you have narcissistic personality disorder, you may come across as conceited, boastful or pretentious. You often monopolize conversations. You may belittle or look down on people you perceive as inferior. You may have a sense of entitlement. And when you don't receive the special treatment to which you feel entitled, you may become very impatient or angry. You may insist on having "the best" of everything — the best car, athletic club, medical care or social circles, for instance.
But underneath all this behavior often lies a fragile self-esteem. You have trouble handling anything that may be perceived as criticism. You may have a sense of secret shame and humiliation. And in order to make yourself feel better, you may react with rage or contempt and efforts to belittle the other person to make yourself appear better.
When to see a doctor
When you have narcissistic personality disorder, you may not want to think that anything could be wrong — doing so wouldn't fit with your self-image of power and perfection. But by definition, a narcissistic personality disorder causes problems in many areas of your life, such as relationships, work, school or your financial affairs. You may be generally unhappy and confused by a mix of seemingly contradictory emotions. Others may not enjoy being around you, and you may find your relationships unfulfilling.
If you notice any of these problems in your life, consider reaching out to a trusted doctor or mental health provider. Getting the right treatment can help make your life more rewarding and enjoyable.
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/narcissistic-personality-disorder/DS00652/DSECTION=symptoms
She mentions drinking tons of coffee this a.m. I swear, I think the woman is addicted to caffeine. No wonder her post was manic.
First time I have ever been to TFW's blog. It's pretty mediocre. Not at all interesting. She is just not very creative.
Marie
Millicent> the reason, that I can see why one school district is pulling out of the National school food program, is cause they did not test market first. Get the kids opinion, of what they want to serve. It would have been easier to test it first(then all the food that was tossed out), then work with what the kids want and what the program wants them to eat and then compromise. I saw in I think it was an ABC report on how much food ended up in the garbage, uneaten. It was a lot. These programs have to understand that a lot of those kids, never had a lot of the food they are tryin get them to eat. It's one thing to have them try a sample, it's another to get them to actually eat a plate full. I've worked with kids around 7-10 years old and a lot of them never had fresh veggies, at home food came from cans or they never eat fresh veggies at home, a lot of them eat rice, beans, tomato sauce, ground beef, fast foods that is it. Serving kids, who may never have eaten anything else, puts the program up for failure. If they never had these veggies or wheat bread, they will not eat it. The compromise is to introduce the healthier food a little at a time. Like a sample. Shroving healthy food all at once does not work.
Nothing about the kids were silent while the paps yelled questions at TFW, and filmed their sad, pathetic walk from her bus to their bus.
I can't help but wonder if the children were still smiling when they got off of the bus this afternoon?
Oh wait! Mommy probably bought some candy to hand out to all of the children!
Jon, go get your children!
"I cannot believe I have two 7th graders and six 3rd graders! I worked late into the night last night, finishing my labeling school stuff, packing eight extra special lunches in their new adorable lunch boxes, painting nails and giving relaxing “spa like” baths (complete with spa music) to my three little girls."
Everyone woke excessively early this morning — AND — all in good moods and in happy spirits! We had our special “MomDonalds” breakfast sandwiches for breakfast and after our traditional front porch pics, we were off to the bus stop!
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Nah, Kate's not manic, not at all.
The kids woke up "excessively" early. She's such a wordsmith. LOL
"The reality is I don't think she's happy at all. Happy people wouldn't do what she did."
I think she's only happy when surrounded by free/grifted crap, and even then it's only a superficial kind of happiness. That's why she keeps needing more and more of it. I've never, ever want to be her. What a sad life.
I wonder if the poor kids woke up so early due to anxiety about facing all their peers and worry about taunting and teasing over this mess. Naw, couldn't be that.
TFW is probably reveling in all the attention.
Never mind that she's humiliated and embarrassed her children beyond belief. Again.
The only important thing in her mind is that she's in the media again.
"The kids happily unloaded from my bus, onto the school bus….I guess they are “all growed up” (haha terrible grammar; sorry, just had to! It drives Mady and Cara CRAZY when I purposely use incorrect english–> wait, “growed” isn’t even a word at all, period.
growed
[grohd] Show IPA
verb Nonstandard.
a simple past tense and past participle of grow.
Six of the kids have bright white shirts on..the two in the middle of the picture have old yellow looking shirts. Couldn't she have gotten everyone a new shirt for the first day?
How long before there are hearings for the law suit I wonder? Will that be public record too?
I did not know that unloaded is a verb, or that people cold unload themselves from one vehicle to another.
She is beyond disgusting. Probably told the kids the paps were there because of her crapbook, not because she filed a lawsuit against daddy. I am sure they happily unloaded; school means friends, adventures and an escape from the long, boring mommy summer. Paps. They do not deserve that.
They didn't want mommy clinbing on the bus and telling them where to sit like she does every other first day? I'm shocked! I wonder if she went over the seating chart and if the kids are brave enoug not to follow it.
Jon has said "I may flip-out soon". Maybe when Jon wins he'll ask court to take away Gosselin from Kate.
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Win or lose, it will have no effect on custody or taking the kids away from Kate. Custody is an entirely separate issue.
"The first time I saw a family sit down to dinner and pour soda into their glasses, I was shocked. I had never seen such a thing!:
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Same here. We had milk with our meals, and water when we were thirsty, and Coke with our Saturday night pizza. That's about it. The kids still don't drink soda with their meals, not even when we're eating out.
Just when I think it's almost over for TFW, there she goes again.
Kate, with what you are doing you are proving without a doubt that you are A BAD MOM.
If I had the resources that you supposedly have, I would enjoy every minute with my kids. I would be volunteering at the school, taking them to sports events, enrolling them in activities they enjoy. Time with your kids goes so fast so just spend as much time as you can with them.
Go back to school and take courses that will benefit you in the future so that you will have a solid occupation when the kids are grown.
Spending time trying to take down the father of your children is so pointless and unnecessarily malicious not to mention you are drowning in spite and stress which does no good for anyone.
Focus on those kids and not on perceived slights or your own desperate agenda.
TLC stinks said... 52
"The kids happily unloaded from my bus, onto the school bus….I guess they are “all growed up” (haha terrible grammar; sorry, just had to! It drives Mady and Cara CRAZY when I purposely use incorrect english–> wait, “growed” isn’t even a word at all, period. Oh well! My blog post. I’ll write what I want!:) because they didn’t want me to get out and walk them to the bus — even on the first day!!! They said “we’re big now, mom!'”
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WTH?
Looks like her happy pills kicked in.
Have any details been provided about Kate's tour to promote her "cookbook"? If she is planning a stop anywhere near where I live, I would like to drop by and take photographs, in the hopes that Skeever tries to take my phone/camera away from me.
Tip to Skeeve: I would advise you not put your hands anywhere on me or my possessions.
My question for Kate: How often do you use the Spanker? When will you return to real employment, now that your children are in school full time?
vanda isabel rodrigu @vanda_isabel 3m
@Kateplusmy8 so adorable. all the best for all the kids and for you kate.where can i buy your book in Portugal?
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Wait until they're dumped overseas because they're not selling here?
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 11
Shouldn't this attorney put a gag order on himself? Why is he talking about this?
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I have no idea. He should have said no comment or at the most said Robert says he got it from the trash, my client adamantly denies that and we are confident we will prove otherwise.
This whole, oh we'll have to explore whether this trash thing mighta happened, is bizarre and just cracked open a huge weakness in their case. It's clear they don't know whatsoever. Sounds like they're just going by whatever convoluted story Kate told them and based a lawsuit around her paranoid fantasy of what MIGHT have happened. They don't seem to have the slightest proof that the original explanation of getting it from the trash isn't absolutely 100% true. They seem to just be hoping something will come out in discovery that supports their other bizarre contention.
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What confuses the heck out of me is that most of the material in Robert's book is contracts, emails and a journal that was written when TFW was The Current Wife. It's stuff Jon legally had access to because it was joint marital property. And because of this, this is probably why TFW could get no criminal charges filed against Robert or Jon. They got her. They got her. To help qwell her seething rage from being gotten, it makes her feel better to file a SLAPP suit and go along with some invented texts. Seriously? If this coffin nailing information was obtained in October 2009, why would Robert/Jon wait until September of 2012 to release it?
DrinkDrinkDrink @AlfredoCocozza 2h
Selected Entity Name: AFFILIADS LLC Entity Name: K8, INC. DOS ID #:3871296 1M? 2M ? $200,000? @Kateplusmy8 Piecing & patching eh? #Hoffman
I appreciate the opportunity to read all the interesting comments on the latest distressing event in the lives of the Gosselin children.
The most glaring thing to me is that the lawsuit confirms the material in Robert's book is accurate because she is not contesting the legitimacy of the material, only that as she sees it, it was obtained illegally.
bm
Considering that she did pretty much nothing with her kids all summer, I'm surprised she was labeling late into the night yesterday. Such a great example of time managment, that one.
I think we all took pictures of our kids on the first day of school, difference being we did not race to Twitter to pimp the kids to teens and crazy ladies. OK, I had no internet then, but still.
"Looks like her happy pills kicked in."
Yes, and again, it just shows how much attention she pays to everything people say about her; she just *has* to set the record straight that every grammar mistake she makes is on purpose and she can say whatever she wants and nyah nyah nyah. A person who is comfortable in her own skin and has a normal sense of self-esteem wouldn't feel the need to engage in this kind of behavior.
Jon has said nothing and I hope he continues to do so. The longer he remains silent, the more people see her true colors. If he made a statement, people would jump all over it. But his silence causes them to analyze and jump all over her. He certainly can't be accused of going along with this for more publicity for himself, as he's been accused of in the past.
How can anyone handle that kind of hate being flung their way? Most of us would crumple into a fetal position, unable to cope with such public vitriol. Instead, she posts more happy/joy/kid pics on her blog, as if nothing has penetrated. I don't get it.
Then you have yet another sub group -- the BV gang and the fans who have aligned themselves with him and salute his outings and tactics. I don't think this really has anything to do with Kate per se, but rather they think that because they've become members of his select group, they're tough...in the in-crowd (especially the one fan who couldn't make up her mind which side she was on). Tough talk, obscenities, the more the better, and they're happy campers.
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Some great insight and comments.
Don't the kids wake up at 5:15 am?
How much earlier did she make them get up for goodness sake.
Just watched the Fox video and the GMA video. It's officially official. TFMJG is a laughingstock. I loved when the reporter at GMA ended his segment by saying TFMJG claims Jon ruined her reputation and Elizabeth Vargas says, "Just now from the book," and all the cohosts laugh. Yeah TFMJG, Jon ruined your reputation and you had absolutely nothing to do with it. And you need to remember TFMJG, that discovery goes both ways. When your Atty. Ratmatazz explores whether Robert Hoffmann legally got your disks out of the trash, you will be subjected to discovery as well. Have fun with that. Will someone please pass the popcorn as well as the oreos.
Mia Savino @miasavin0 2h
My dad bumped into Kate Gosselin today and she gave him a dirty look.
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I wonder if this is true?
Just saw that Kris Jenner's talk show was axed. Six week trial run was enough for Fox to say, thank you but no thank you. Is anybody surprised by that?
"Considering that she did pretty much nothing with her kids all summer, I'm surprised she was labeling late into the night yesterday."
That's assuming that she's telling the truth, which IMO is a huge assumption to make. What percentage of what she tells the public is true, do we think? 20%? 10%? Less?
The most glaring thing to me is that the lawsuit confirms the material in Robert's book is accurate because she is not contesting the legitimacy of the material, only that as she sees it, it was obtained illegally.
bm
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Maybe Robert can seek protection via Whistle Blower laws!
Seriously, it's what it is. Kate has been exposed. It doesn't appear to be a matter of *if* the information is true, but how it was obtained.
Kate's facade has been pulled back.
The Great and Powerful Oz is exposed.
It's all just smoke, ropes and levers, folks.
Jon's silence is working quite well IMO. It prevents this from turning into a tit for tat they're all nuts scenerio. The media right now is framing this as just a whole lot of titting and no tatting and are blaming it all rightly so on TFW. The second anyone tats that will be over.
Frankly it is a very huge victory that the media spun this the way they did. Huge. Jon needs to just ride that wave and stay silent.
Mia Savino @miasavin0 6m
@MomsObservation she used to go to my church and she always looked miserable.
Mia Savino @miasavin0 11m
My dad bumped into Kate Gosselin today and she gave him a dirty look.
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Hope BV doesn't forward this to Mr. Razzamatazz. He'll become one of those conspiring John Does 1-20.
This is sort of like you broke into someone's house and discovered a murder but all the murderer can say is but you broke into my house you're a house breaker!!!
Why yes I did because it smelled very odd.
No one is buying her crying. The punishment does not fit the crime and everyone sees what the real issue is, the abuse. Finally! Thank you, the media! Lol
My sister-in-law's mother was from Hardin Co. Kentucky, a very lovely rural part of the state.
The people were wonderfully warm and friendly to me, and I assume they are to everyone. And they enjoy their food! You know the Drive-Ins,
Diners and Dives that Guy Fieri visits? They love those kinds of places. Meatloaf, gravy,
potatoes, gravy, green beans, rolls, fried chicken, cornbread, beans and cornbread, kale,
collard greens, and pie. Down home comfort food. They don't have any more cases of obesity than city dwellers who eat fancier foods. I can understand the kids don't want to give up their shepherd's pie in favor of pita sandwiches with spinach. They don't know what to make of some of the "fancy food", and if they can't pronounce it, they're sure not going to eat it! (Baguette, focaccia, quinoa, whatever.) They like meat, taters, gravy and
pie. No complaints, they promise.
They're not going to change because somebody thinks they ought to. They like what they like and what they're used to. It's part of who they are. There will be war if somebody tries to take away their sausage and biscuits!
Frankly it is a very huge victory that the media spun this the way they did. Huge. Jon needs to just ride that wave and stay silent.
August 28, 2013 at 1:39 PM
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Could not agree more.
I've wanted to say that I wish Jon strength in this marathon that is surviving TFW's abuse, losing himself, finding and centering himself again and striving all the while to shield his children from all of it, as much as humanly possible.
I hope for Jon that he keeps himself surrounded by family and trusted friends, and that he might find support through his faith once again.
It must be very hard to not fight back, but it takes the bigger person to show restraint instead of giving in to the release of lashing out.
Yeah, Kate is looking pretty bad right now, and she needs no help in painting herself in a unkind light.
Until and unless Kate gets therapy-- real, professional help-- she will lead with her anger, which is really to say, pain.
I'm not a mommy. Is it usual for 9 year olds to be bathed by their mother?
I thought TFW was bragging how independent her kids were. Yet she has to stay up half the night organizing school items for 8 children, 2 of whom are in Middle School (or whatever it's called there.)
capecodmama said... 87
Just saw that Kris Jenner's talk show was axed. Six week trial run was enough for Fox to say, thank you but no thank you. Is anybody surprised by that?
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Not surprised. There's only so much the public can take. Kris hasn't the great mind for business she likes to think she has.
She has a Kate mentality, "strike while the iron is hot", vs. leave a little to the imagination and keep them wanting more.
After we've seen your daughter's labia majora, I can safely say we've seen enough.
fidosmommy said... 95
I'm not a mommy. Is it usual for 9 year olds to be bathed by their mother?
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To my memory, that would have been very, very strange.
I assumed she gave them some bubble bath and told them to squirt it in.
She never bathed the kids to begin with.
The whole thing was so over the top.
SwingsandRoundabouts said... 73
Spending time trying to take down the father of your children is so pointless and unnecessarily malicious not to mention you are drowning in spite and stress which does no good for anyone.
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Amen to that.
She may sue, speak badly about, and try to turn her children against their father. He's still their father. As much as Katie doesn't want to admit it, those kids are growing up. If she thinks a bunch of those kids aren't going to see her for who and what she really is ... she's sadly mistaken.
It would be rich if when the kids' book about mommy comes out ... they use Robert's queen and pawns cover!
I'm WAY behind in reading the comments, but I've just got to say that Razzmatazz and his ''discovery'' of what was in the trash is something I'm really looking forward to! In his book, Robert said that what he used to write the book was just a tiny portion of what he discovered. Razzmatazz is about to ''discover'' much more than he can imagine!
Fidosmommy:
I can only speak for my own mothering experience. By age 9, my son was taking his own baths. I would run the water and get it ready for him, then leave him to it. However, I did still check to be sure he got all the shampoo out of his hair.
As to staying up late into the night supposedly preparing all the kids' school materials - yet another example of what a crappy organizer Kate is. She doesn't work, she doesn't volunteer her time anywhere, she has no friends to go and visit -- so she's basically got all the time in the world to prepare the kids for back to school. Does she do it in an orderly fashion, over the two weeks preceding the first of school? Noooooooo, for some reason she puts it all off until the very night before school.
Why would I be impressed with that? I am far from being a Wonder Woman, but in the two weeks prior to school starting up again, I buy any necessary supplies. I used to organize my son's backpack, but now I just hand him the supplies and he puts everything in order.
Not that I believe Kate actually sat there and organized 8 backpacks. She probably created a 52-point chore chart for the kids, on how to organize their backpacks. If they missed any of the 52 points,she charged them a dollar. Soon, she'll be charging them for their food, laundry costs, their portion of the PG&E bill, etc.
Fidomommy> Exactly. I went to a Veggie fest here and expecting to get veggie recipes, and taste veggie food, well, I was shocked, they had several booths, that had powdered stuff you mix and drink. WTH, is that? Some of the veggie samples of their food was terrible tasting, way too spicy, and some looked like what Kate makes. I would not taste test it. I like to taste it before I buy it. If I can.
To my memory, that would have been very, very strange.
I assumed she gave them some bubble bath and told them to squirt it in.
She never bathed the kids to begin with.
The whole thing was so over the top.
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I'm voting for private bath time for each of them.
Nurse TFW, bubble baths are bad for girls; they make them prone to urinary tract infections.
I should think M and C or even the 'littles' would not want 'Mommy' to walk them to the bus at age 13! Isn't it two feet from where the parking is?
I'm not a mommy. Is it usual for 9 year olds to be bathed by their mother?
No.
Who believes that the TFW actually did any labeling? Nobody?
Who thinks the hired help did it?
Who thinks she did spa baths for the younger girls? Nobody??
And why not the older girls? I thought they were her bff's.
I suppose the icky boys had to take cold showers out in the hen house lest they contaminate the mansion.
Millicent> If Kate is a so-called good organizer, as she claim/as her fans claim, then why wait to the last minute. If I had kids, they would be ready, for school at the least 3 days before, the most a week before. I do that when I travel, I'm ready to go, 3-4 days before trip. All packed, check list checked.
Kate is tryin to convince everyone she is soooo busy, cause she is working so hard at nothing. I really think that song> Taking Care of Business by BTO is her theme song.
Mia Savino @miasavin0 3h
My dad bumped into Kate Gosselin today and she gave him a dirty look.
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 2h
@The5antos @miasavin0
Ha! I gave ZERO dirty looks today.. Was I deep in thought, concentrating and happened to look his way? Most likely!
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Hmmmm right.
fidosmommy said... 95
I'm not a mommy.
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That's okay, neither is Kate.
Spa music and MomDonald's breakfast? Unless it was a guilt thing after a good tongue-lashing or severe penalty punishment, I doubt she pampered them like that. If the truth be known it was probably a chaotic screamfest.She wrote that to quell the media storm she created with that lawsuit. Now she wants people to think her home has turned into a tranquil haven of serenity. She's so transparent.
She gave zero dirty looks "today"? Why is this something she frequently does on other days? Lol. How about I'm sorry I was probably deep in thought (plotting how to wipe my children's father off the face of the earth, it takes concentration!) and I promise to try to smile next time.
If I just filed a lawsuit against ANYONE, I'd have to change my underwear about 3 times a day! I'd be more nervous than a long-tailed cat in a room full of rocking chairs!
So, Kate's either full of crap, pretending everything is sunshine, or she really is getting off on this.
The tone of her tweets is simply not normal, and if they kids don't have access to her Twitter feed, then who is this crazed behavior for?
Jon? maybe
Robert? maybe
She's either got to grow up or get help, or both.
The tweeter isn't buying it either :)
Kate's fooling noone anymore
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Kate Gosselin@Kateplusmy828m
@The5antos @miasavin0
Ha! I gave ZERO dirty looks today.. Was I deep in thought, concentrating and happened to look his way? Most likely!
Mia Savino@miasavin011m
@The5antos @Kateplusmy8 Yeah Ms. Gosselin.
In 10 - 15 years, I can see her kids confronting her, sadly and angrily recalling the chaos in that household. And TFW will pull out her carefully copied and organized tweets and tell them, "No, children, you have very poor memories. See? I kept very careful records of how lovely and happy our days were. Where did you ever get the idea that it was ever anything different?"
In 10 - 15 years, I can see her kids confronting her, sadly and angrily recalling the chaos in that household. And TFW will pull out her carefully copied and organized tweets and tell them, "No, children, you have very poor memories. See? I kept very careful records of how lovely and happy our days were. Where did you ever get the idea that it was ever anything different?"
Mel said... 104
I'm not a mommy. Is it usual for 9 year olds to be bathed by their mother?
No.
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I disagree as a parent of a boy and girl. By nine they could certainly bathe alone, maybe help with my daughter's long hair. They were taught how and given privacy & independence.
A blog that pretty much hits the nail on the head about child celebrities:
http://www.air1.com/blog/brant/post/2013/08/26/miley-cyrus-MTV-culture-and-the-need-for-adults.aspx
~TooSadToWatch (can't make it change my name in the new format--sorry!)
Nurse TFW, bubble baths are bad for girls; they make them prone to urinary tract infections.
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Bubble baths! I grew up with bubble baths and never had a UTI. My girls have always had bubble baths, and no UTIs. Knock on wood...now watch it happen!
"Parents are often cautioned not to use bubble bath because it can contribute to urinary tract infections (UTIs). But no studies have proven a link between bubble bath and UTIs, says Ranjiv Mathews, associate professor of pediatric urology at Johns Hopkins Children's Center in Baltimore."
I think the jury is still out on that one. From what I've read, if the child is prone to infections, it's probably best to avoid bubble baths, especially if the child is under three. If kids are going to take them, you need to make sure that all of the soap is thoroughly washed off when they're finished because soap is an irritant. But just because a child "might" get a UTI really isn't any reason not to let them have an occasional bubble bath.
Heck, they can get a UTI just being in a wet swim suit at the pool. What's a parent to do? Bring dry swim suits along to the pool and have them change every hour on the hour? You just need to use good old-fashioned common sense.
As to staying up late into the night supposedly preparing all the kids' school materials - yet another example of what a crappy organizer Kate is. She doesn't work, she doesn't volunteer her time anywhere, she has no friends to go and visit -- so she's basically got all the time in the world to prepare the kids for back to school. Does she do it in an orderly fashion, over the two weeks preceding the first of school? Noooooooo, for some reason she puts it all off until the very night before school.
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Her time has been spent having conference calls with attorneys. She finally took some time away from the lawsuit to get the kids ready for their first day.
Not surprised. There's only so much the public can take. Kris hasn't the great mind for business she likes to think she has.
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I wonder how long Kendra's show is going to last. I am by no means a prude, but I've seen commercials for it, and if the show is as raunchy as what's suggested in the ads, I'd be surprised if it makes it off the ground. I guess the network is hoping that sex will sell it to the viewers and that ratings will skyrocket.
Kim Weiss @kimmerieweiss 6h
Oh, the things I could say today....sighed the zen publicist....:-)
She baked 700+ cookies a month ago and stuck them in the freezer, but stayed up late the night before labeling? I'm confused! Wouldn't it make more sense to label everything a month before school starts, and bake fresh cookies the night before? Why does she do everything bass ackwards?
Omg Kim Weiss from HCI?? Baw hahahha Kim!
This is totally and utterly imploding. Imploding. Beyond our wildest imaginations (dreams?). I feel like the People interview was the set up and then this latest stunt just exploded on the backs of that. What a total and compete disaster.
But yeah keep on labeling TFW, nothing to see here. She thought people would be impressed she stayed up all night when really it just makes her look disorganized. She doesn't work and had all summer to be ready and could have gotten a good night's sleep last night instead of playing label martyr.
Poor kids. I bet they were so happy to go back to school--their safe haven far away from manic Mommy and imprisonment on the compound--only to hear from their peers that Mommy is suing Daddy and Mommy wants Daddy to go to jail.
I looked at some of the videos from J&K+8 listed above, and all I can think is that there is no way that nasty, mean, abusive mother suddenly transformed into a joyous, cheerful, adoring mother who spends every waking moment doing wonderful things for her kids. Those kids have never come first with her. Her hatred, jealousy, and thirst for vengeance has always come first.
Actually why isn't Kim saying something? Maybe Kate didn't pay for "if I really f up" insurance when she signed on to HCI?
AMD said... 111
The tweeter isn't buying it either :)
Kate's fooling noone anymore
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Kate Gosselin@Kateplusmy828m
@The5antos @miasavin0
Ha! I gave ZERO dirty looks today.. Was I deep in thought, concentrating and happened to look his way? Most likely!
Mia Savino@miasavin011m
@The5antos @Kateplusmy8 Yeah Ms. Gosselin.
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Hehehehe...
Someone "bumped" into that meek, dainty, sweet, little flower- causing her to interrupt her deep thoughts, and SHE did not flash him a dirty look?
I find that hard to believe.
What is HCI?
Anonymous said... 119
Kim Weiss @kimmerieweiss 6h
Oh, the things I could say today....sighed the zen publicist....:-)
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What is she referring to?
Yesterday I saw that banana person asking ''Anyone know if Robert Hoffman turned over the discs to the Prosecution?'' Prosecution? I find myself wondering if questions like that are stirring the pot, because it is difficult to believe that they are so unaware of what is actually happening. Are they being deliberately obtuse, or are they really that dense?
Keep quiet, Jon. TFMJG and her fans are doing themselves in, and your silence speaks volumes. Stay the course, and don't say a word, please!
Here's an interesting thought.... since the media is now calling Kate out for what she is, how is this crookbook promo tour going to go? It seems that before, there was always the understanding that Ms. Gosselin would only answer a pre-submitted set of questions which portrayed her in only the brightest light. For some reason, I don't think she has the clout to make such a demand anymore.
Speaking of the crookbook, I sort of made the herbie chicken for dinner. I had boneless chicken tenders and I gave them a light dusting of seasoned flour before sauteeing. I like chicken to have a light crust when it's going to be simmered in a liquid, I think it holds the juices in. I doubled the recipe because I wanted to have enough for leftovers. I didn't have shallots so I sliced a large onion very thinly. I ignored most of her herb suggestions and amounts and used a lighter hand with seasonings we enjoy, like majoram. I served it with smashed baby red potatoes and fresh green beans. My family devoured it and there are no leftovers. It was quite tasty. I know I doubled the recipe but it made a ton of sauce which was delicious over the potatoes. She says the let the broth and wine reduce down to a 1/2 cup. Why? I let it reduce some, not until the pan was almost dry. As with most of her recipes, this one is an exact combination of 2 currently on AllRecipes.
Mia Savino @miasavin0 2h
@Kateplusmy8 @The5antos you just wanted to get into the USPS store before him I guess.
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LOL! Of course she did, and she probably was parked in the fire lane too, and gave this girl's dad the stink eye. She was probably in a hurry to pick up more reams of legal mumbo jumbo from Mr. Razzamatazz.
Tate said... 124
What is HCI?
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TFW's publisher
Somewhere, CC's Scott and Zondervan's CEO are kicking back on a beach, drinking something from a pineapple. Something blissfully boozy and paper umbrella festooned.
Just....... laughing.
sarah @gypsi001 3m
Gd eve @Kateplusmy8 .. Just made quinoa for 1st time. It's kinda strange. How do u make it so that the kids like it?
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LOL
Get used to it, gypsi. I'm sure you've ordered her cookbook, right?
Two days ago she was everywhere in the news. Today, zip as far as any pap photos. They were there this morning, right? Her photos are not paying off? I thought for sure there would be a photo of her and the kids at the bus stop, you know the kind where she is giving them BIG hugs.
What did Kim say, where, and to whom? Twitter?
Was Kim Weiss the person that tweeted several weeks ago about having a lunch meeting with a client from hell or something like that?
Somewhere, CC's Scott and Zondervan's CEO are kicking back on a beach, drinking something from a pineapple. Something blissfully boozy and paper umbrella festooned.
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lol!! ...and breathing heavy sighs of relief as they chow down on non-organic, fatty, greasy ribs, knowing that TFW would never approve.
sarah @gypsi001 3m
Gd eve @Kateplusmy8 .. Just made quinoa for 1st time. It's kinda strange. How do u make it so that the kids like it?
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I don't recall TFW making quinoa. I feel like I would have noticed that since I love it. Maybe I vaguely remember some dumped on a sad little salad?
Why don't they just look at some of the good vegetarian blogs out there? There are hundreds of recipes and surely some are kid friendly. Kids might like it with a Mexican twist, or maybe with chicken. I don't know, it's not the most popular thing for kids and not necessary to make them eat it. Making kids eat something like that is a surefire way to turn kids off from all healthy food in general.
Which reminds me, I find this transition to healthier school lunches so interesting and I've always followed it. In some communities it will be smoother than others. It is a very, very difficult thing to change the diets of kids used to certain things and as someone else mentioned, it's set up to fail and then the big junk food companies can say see we told you, kids won't eat it. I almost wonder if there's got to be some tough love here. I know you don't like it, but you'll get used to it. Offer them a wide variety of choices that are well prepared, but make it clear this is how it's gonna be and it will be fine. It's like switching to skim milk. It tastes like water at first and you want to forget that change. But if you stick with it, it tastes fine eventually and then the milk you used to drink tastes gross.
Somewhere, CC's Scott and Zondervan's CEO are kicking back on a beach, drinking something from a pineapple. Something blissfully boozy and paper umbrella festooned.
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lol!! ...and breathing heavy sighs of relief as they chow down on non-organic, fatty, greasy ribs, knowing that TFW would never approve.
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LOL I picture them in their bermuda shorts toasting their drinks: To sound business decisions! To cleaning house! To karma!
I think that was from Kim way back when. She seems to be someone dealing with a difficult client as she posts little passive aggressive remarks about it lol.
Maybe that lunch meeting was about how Kim would recommend that Kate pay X amount of dollars for a publicist/damage control package, but TFW wanted a 99% off coupon. They never agreed to terms, so TFW never signed up. Oops!
Tee-hee.
Yesterday I saw that banana person asking ''Anyone know if Robert Hoffman turned over the discs to the Prosecution?''
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Discs? I thought the complaint alleges hard drive, even though Robert says it was the discs. Are the sheeple now acknowledging that it might be discs and not the hard drive?
Following their way of thinking is difficult. Who is the "prosecutor" in this case, and do they still believe that these are criminal charges? Oy.
I noticed two things on twitter. Kate used the word "sentiments" correctly. The girl who tweeted about her father bumping into Kate said they were at the USPS store. Nobody gets between Kate and her freebies.
The story of TFMJG suing her ex was trending #3 out of the 20 top stories on my homepage yesterday morning. Yesterday afternoon, the story was trending at #19. By last night, it wasn't trending. That didn't last long.
Is this the tweet you were thinking of?
Kim Weiss @kimmerieweiss 24 Jun
Note to self: no more mexican lunches while working with high stress authors.
The story of TFMJG suing her ex was trending #3 out of the 20 top stories on my homepage yesterday morning. Yesterday afternoon, the story was trending at #19. By last night, it wasn't trending. That didn't last long.
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Explosions usually happen fast. Then the wind blows the smoke away and it's over and all you're left with is some bad quiona recipes and TFW manically, and happily, labeling things.
PJ's Momma, yes, that is the tweet I was thinking of. What are the odds that the two tweets are related and are referering to TFW? Could it be possible that Kim Weiss has another client more difficult than TFW? Naaahhh.. It is fun to speculate on what she was referring to today.
Melissa NV said... 136
''...Following their way of thinking is difficult. Who is the "prosecutor" in this case, and do they still believe that these are criminal charges? Oy.''
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You're not kidding about trying to follow their way of thinking. From the ''prosecutor'' comment, it seems to me that they DO think these are criminal charges. Not only criminal, but FEDERAL criminal charges. That is why I keep shaking my head and wondering how it is possible to be so uninformed, especially since they are such fans of TFMJG.
They STILL can't get off this criminal thing?? "Prosecutor" shouldn't even enter into the equation. If a prosecutor was ever involved, they have long since passed on pressing any chargers. These people are as stubborn as potty training a new puppy. No matter how many times you beg them to for the love of God just go potty, they don't get it.
Somehow I don't think the authors of "Attached at the Heart: Eight Proven Parenting Principles for Raising Connected and Compassionate Children" and "For the Love of God: True Stories of Faith, Fellowship, and Divine Intervention" are the ones giving poor Kim Weiss heartburn.
Maybe we should send her some Coronas to wash down that Mexican food.
What's interesting about Kim is that she tweets and facebooks a lot about books being released, events, authors, etc. Her twitter feed and facebook page are really full of very interesting stuff. She hasn't said a word about Kate's book yet. Maybe she waits until they're nearing release or something.
One other thing...I went to TFW's blog for the first time the other day. Now I'm no web designer but I do know that if you right-click when over the web page then select View Source, you can see the html for the page. If you do that then go to the very bottom, the hit counter looks weird. It almost appears that there are several on there. If someone out there that is more web-savvy could take a look and comment, maybe we could clear up that issue. The counter definitly does go up in multiples of hits each time you refresh the page. And it seems to go up in a random amount so as not to appear rigged.
PJ I actually really believe in all seriousness Kate did NOT buy HCI's promotion package. I think she has separate people running the PR aspect of this, people she's known before who helped her. Perhaps that was part of her negotiation of the package. I think HCI would have said a lot more by now. Even though this book isn't much, it's really better than most everything else they've got to offer.
getofftwitter said...
It's one thing to have them try a sample, it's another to get them to actually eat a plate full.
And THEN said:
The compromise is to introduce the healthier food a little at a time. Like a sample.
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Am I the only one confused?
Is this the Australia fan that Gladys was pestering and couldn't find? If so, guess she found her...she set up a new Twitter ID!
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 2h
@undercovermumma Well...seems I have found where me awesome gal went! Undercover LITERALLY....did U wish 2b found? :) I followed.
Watching the anchors on ABC laugh about the idea that TFW feels her reputation has been damaged by the book....it made me smile.
And Hoffman could not ask for better publicity than this for his book. Hope the lawsuit is thrown out quickly.
Is this the Australia fan that Gladys was pestering and couldn't find? If so, guess she found her...she set up a new Twitter ID!
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Hahahaha . . . Oh. My. Stage III clinger.
Marie
KarenSokoll @karenkpsok 1m
@Kateplusmy8 do you still have your recipe for that tomato & onion or cucumber salad you made awhile ago?
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Hey, why not cut up some tomato, cucumber and onion and toss it? Add the dressing of your choice.
And THEN said:
The compromise is to introduce the healthier food a little at a time. Like a sample.
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Am I the only one confused?
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Could be. ;-)
Kim can't be talking about TFW cause remember once you meet TFW you love her.
It just has to be another Kate is maybe talking about but TFW no way/
These people are as stubborn as potty training a new puppy. No matter how many times you beg them to for the love of God just go potty, they don't get it.
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lol!! Don't you just want to say to some of those fans, "Poop or get off the pot!" There's something in their brain wiring that, no matter how many times you try to explain something (even in the most simple terms) they can't get it. Wouldn't you think, though, that they at least could google criminal charges vs.civil suits and why there isn't any prosecutor involved in this particular action? Then again, it could be that the term "prosecutor" is confusing and they think that any attorney for a plaintiff is a prosecutor.
Sleepless In Seattle said... 151
Is this the Australia fan that Gladys was pestering and couldn't find? If so, guess she found her...she set up a new Twitter ID!
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 2h
@undercovermumma Well...seems I have found where me awesome gal went! Undercover LITERALLY....did U wish 2b found? :) I followed.
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So in other words Milo you're a stalker??
karenkpsok
@Kateplusmy8 do you still have your recipe for that tomato & onion or cucumber salad you made awhile ago?
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Oh. My. Word.
KarenSokoll @karenkpsok 1m
@Kateplusmy8 do you still have your recipe for that tomato & onion or cucumber salad you made awhile ago?
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Wow I hope she isn't being serious.
Ouch. Gypsi asked a question and got this answer!
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 13m
IN MY BOOK!:) http://www.kateplusmy8.com/ RT @gypsi001: @Kateplusmy8 ..made quinoa for 1st time. It's..strange.How do u make it so kids like it?
Admin said... "So, it's possible that TFW won't even be happy once she accomplishes what she sets out to do, terminate parental rights.
In seriousness, I wonder if it's exhausting and uncomfortable to be entrapped in such wild and irrational emotions. Or if it's just their normal and they feel just fine."
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No, it's not possible. My sister has had NPD, Bipolar Disorder, ADHD since birth. The characteristic of a borderline personality is extreme highs and lows. Everyone suffers around them, when they are miserable. TFW is likely up late in the night, crying her eyes out in a manic state. The obvious cure is having emotional support. TFW has cut everyone off. Imagine becoming a new lover or even worse... her BFF. Ugh- SWF comes to mind.
Hoffman won't post or talk, until he absolutely has to-- I think. He wants TFMJG to wait it out. I love his style.
TLC stinks says……………
She mentions drinking tons of coffee this a.m. I swear, I think the woman is addicted to caffeine. No wonder her post was manic.
And.....
Admin says……
Whoa that post WAS manic. No paragraphs, run on tangents that are hard to follow, excessive punctuation, and I counted three happies.
And someone posted earlier, I can't find it now, something to the effect that if she had just filed a lawsuit she would be having the runs.
Not TFW! Super fun lawsuit.
Her behavior is so off the charts. her over the top glee as she enters into a lawsuit. Of course none of us understand it. I think its a power trip for TFW.
The melt downs and manic highs and lots of caffeine, who could stand it?
"Kim Weiss @kimmerieweiss 24 Jun
Note to self: no more mexican lunches while working with high stress authors."
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Interesting. Does that mean TFW was not on her best behavior? I don't do Twitter.
I have been reading here for awhile, but only recently have been commenting. I love the posts, interesting, funny without getting ugly. I wish I had saved the recent Charlie Babbit comment, lol.
I can't find it now but applaud the comparison.
In one of the counts, Kate is seeking damages based on a Pennsylvania Statute.
Sorry Kate, but a Federal District court has NO JURISDICTION whatsoever with state laws.
A Federal District Court cannot grant compensation based on state statute. It's a violation of the 10th Amendment plus other Constitutional case laws.
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Whoa, you're right. UNLESS there is no particular federal statute that covers that cause of action. Then I think they can use state law. Basically I believe it's federal law applies first unless no federal law exists, then you can stop down to state law.
Speaking in that same vein, I'm pretty sure they have to follow whatever the federal SOL is for the fed provisions they are citing. It would be irrelevant what PA's SOL is.
Interesting exchange...
LukeCymbal
Re watching Kate Plus Ei8ht and I am realizing how similar my mom is to @Kateplusmy8. Washing the floor 3 times a day? Yup, my mom!
Kateplusmy8
@LukeCymbal and you love her tons, don't ya?;)
LukeCymbal
Re watching Kate Plus Ei8ht and I am realizing how similar my mom is to @Kateplusmy8. Washing the floor 3 times a day? Yup, my mom!
Kateplusmy8
@LukeCymbal and you love her tons, don't ya?;)
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Wow she's totally lost it. Completely unhinged. This should be funny but it's mostly just sad.
She needs an intervention. Seriously.
Hoffman has posted some new links to his page along with photos of TFW and her spoon.
OMG...Hoffman's site is PRICELESS! What a SLAM!!!
He opens the page now with links that quote Razzamatazz, TFW's attorney, about how the book "damaged Kate's reputation."
He then has the gazillion links from all over the media that have slammed Kate over the years...
...and at the bottom of the site, he quotes again, "It's damaged her reputation."
In other words, TFW - your reputation was ALREADY DAMAGED before the book...and as Hoffman points out on his website, his book was out for a whole TWO days before it was pulled...
I have never met Robert Hoffman, but I would bow down in his presence if I were to meet him!
Well, Robert certainly isn't being "silent", is he? lol
"SLAPP suits are all-too common and are a scourge on our legal landscape. Personally, they have been good for me, as I earn a significant income by defending these kinds of suits, but as much as I love money, I love free speech more (and I'm sure that I could sell that time elsewhere). A SLAPP suit is a "Strategic Lawsuit Against Public Participation." In other words, it is a lawsuit that some hosebag files against a critic -- not because he hopes to win anything, but because the mere filing of the suit is punishment enough for the critic. Lawsuits are expensive, and when a rich douchebag has plenty of money to spend on attorneys's fees, he can afford to sue a couple of critics, thus scaring the bejesus out of anyone else who might criticize him."
Mark J Randazza, March 4, 2010 blog entry ("Could A National Anti-SLAPP Law Be On the Horizon)
http://www.dmlp.org/blog/marc-j-randazza
KarenSokoll @karenkpsok 1m
@Kateplusmy8 do you still have your recipe for that tomato & onion or cucumber salad you made awhile ago?
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Wow I hope she isn't being serious.
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Kate told her to buy her cookbook! LOL!!
Sarah said... 168
Hoffman has posted some new links to his page along with photos of TFW and her spoon.
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What is that thing? It's not a spoon. Unless it's an empty paper towel core it would leave some nasty bruises.
That's another thing. What are her "damages" in this suit, really. You can't break a plate that's already broken. She may have a heck of a time proving damages beyond anything but the fair market value of the electronics, and even then there's a fair argument Jon had every right to take those, both because it was martial property and because it was by the side of the road.
Over And Out said... 171
KarenSokoll @karenkpsok 1m
@Kateplusmy8 do you still have your recipe for that tomato & onion or cucumber salad you made awhile ago?
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Wow I hope she isn't being serious.
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Kate told her to buy her cookbook! LOL!!
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Of course she did now the poor sheep has to wait weeks till she can make salad lol.
Cristina Rich @Sienna_Star 40m
@Kateplusmy8 @XKimmieCX What brand are the kids shoes I want a pair if they have them in adult sizes?
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Oh my.
You wonder why some of the fans have a difficult time with understanding a civil suit. Making a salad with tomatoes, onion and cucumbers needs to be mastered first.
chefsummer said... 175
Of course she did now the poor sheep has to wait weeks till she can make salad lol.
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That is just too funny!! :)
There have been so many amusing comments here lately. Wish I'd saved them all.
Someone asked in this last set about how soon there would be a court hearing. Jon and Robert proably have 30 days from personal service of the summons and complaint to file their answers and their respective attorneys may file paperwork to dismiss the case for various reasons, Statute of Limitations for one. Otherwise there isn't likely to be a court hearing until after all the discovery, interrogatories, depositions and the like have been completed. I've been out of the field for 15 years so possibly my view is outdated. And Federal court may work differently than state. So much is electronically done these days ...
Lynn W.
Poor sheep indeed, chef. By the time they finally get their recipe for cucumber salad, they won't feel like it anymore.
There have been so many amusing comments here lately. Wish I'd saved them all.
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Wasn't Sue Buddy keeping a list of Dumb Things Sheeple Say?
Kate told her to buy her cookbook! LOL!!
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To which chefsummer BRILLIANTLY replied:
"Of course she did now the poor sheep has to wait weeks till she can make a salad."
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I'm going to laugh myself to sleep tonight over that one. That was great, chefsummer!
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 181
Poor sheep indeed, chef. By the time they finally get their recipe for cucumber salad, they won't feel like it anymore.
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Maybe by then she'll have a craving for "excessive" LEMON hummus.
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 2h
@The5antos @miasavin0
Ha! I gave ZERO dirty looks today.. Was I deep in thought, concentrating and happened to look his way? Most likely!
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As opposed to the 15-20 dirty looks she usually gives to the mediocre masses on every other day.
LOL welcome I think I'm going to get TFW cookbook and try to cook her food.
I'm try my best not to change her ridiculous measurements.
The dirty looks tally! Little hash marks lined up by date. I have a little notebook in my back pocket where I can keep track of mine in case anyone ever accuses me of such a terrible thing.
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Poor sheep indeed, chef. By the time they finally get their recipe for cucumber salad, they won't feel like it anymore.
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Maybe by then she'll have a craving for "excessive" LEMON hummus.
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You're giving the sheep to much credit lol they can't make salad.
I'm pretty sure they need KK's help in knowing how to juice a lemon for the hummus. lol
BWWWAHHHHAAAAA
that razzamatazz lawyerish guy ( to use Kate speak) apparantly loves getting rich off of douchebags with lots of money who can afford to lay SLAPP suits without a hope to win, because they are just hosebags who want revenge...
He does like it, but hey its moola!!!
So... did he just say TFW has a lot of money... and is a douchebag and a a hosebag...oooo...
TFW you best be careful or your BVish guy might end up going after your lawyerish guy.
Pardon my grammer...but I's think ya lost it girlie! May Jon get full custody of those kids.
I have seen those cardboard things. They are what fabric rolls are on. They are thick and have a sting to them when they are smacked against you...and they do not break easily. we have had to use a saw to cut them up.
What is that thing? It's not a spoon. Unless it's an empty paper towel core it would leave some nasty bruises.
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It's a cardboard cylinder of a plastic stretch wrap roll like Saran Wrap. They are more dense and much harder than a paper towel roll cylinder and probably have the same spanker effect as the wooden spoon if you were wacked with it. Ouch.
I believe the judge will either hear this lawsuit minus the PA law or send it to PA court minus the Federal law. She can't have it both ways. (Dear sheeple, they call this double jeopardy.)
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I thought that double jeopardy means that, after an acquittal or conviction, the defendant can't be charged again for the same crime.
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The dirty looks tally! Little hash marks lined up by date. I have a little notebook in my back pocket where I can keep track of mine in case anyone ever accuses me of such a terrible thing.
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I put pebbles in my shoe. If I can walk when I get home I know I was charming today.
Poor sheep indeed, chef. By the time they finally get their recipe for cucumber salad, they won't feel like it anymore.
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I thought I saw that recipe posted somewhere online. When did Kate post her meatloaf recipe...around the same time, I believe.
It's a cardboard cylinder of a plastic stretch wrap roll like Saran Wrap. They are more dense and much harder than a paper towel roll cylinder and probably have the same spanker effect as the wooden spoon if you were wacked with it. Ouch.
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That could be difficult to explain if it was "discovered" doncha think? I mean I'm a mom and I didn't carry one of those around with me, keep it by my side when I was sitting in my lounge chair. Whatever could be the reason? Hmmmmm.
Chefsummer, very funny! So many things to laugh at here today!
Dmasy, I meant to mention this before, but I love the multiple socks in your new avatar!
I was just reading some info from federal court website, basic stuff about what happens in a case before it even makes it to trial. It could be months before the defendants respond, usually its 30 days but the court website said more time can be requested. If it got dismissed even that might take several months. If.it ever went to trial, which seems doubtful thanks to info all the informed posters here have noted, all the kids could be teenagers by then! Theses things can drag on for years and years! TFMJG probably assumed that as soon as things were filed, she would get immediate satisfaction.
Looking at the Paula Deen case, it was fully over one year from the date of filing when discovery was still going on. That Paula Deen lawyers baked at. That caused Lisa Jackson lawyers to carry out actions they warned about before the case was even filed. Those actions were to TELL THE TRUTH. and to make sure Paula Deen s own words from her own deposition were circulated far and wide.
Oh my goodness. TFMJG will have to sit for a deposition too. Her own words will deliver the final blow to her ” career”.
I loved the clips GMA picked to show today. Even anyone who had never seen her before would think that she was the most annoying woman on earth after seeing those clips.
When the new DWTS cat is announce, you just know someone on GMA is going to ask Tony how he ever put up with her. And of he refrains from answering, someone will joke that he is afraid of TFMJG suing him too! Oh my, TFMJG has no idea of what she has done.
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The dirty looks tally! Little hash marks lined up by date. I have a little notebook in my back pocket where I can keep track of mine in case anyone ever accuses me of such a terrible thing.
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Is there an app for that?
That could be difficult to explain if it was "discovered" doncha think? I mean I'm a mom and I didn't carry one of those around with me, keep it by my side when I was sitting in my lounge chair. Whatever could be the reason? Hmmmmm.
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It's a holder for her remote?
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