Ex Nurse said... 199 Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 188 The dirty looks tally! Little hash marks lined up by date. I have a little notebook in my back pocket where I can keep track of mine in case anyone ever accuses me of such a terrible thing. -------- Is there an app for that? ====================
Well, I went to bed to read a very interesting book about the beginning of the Revolutionary War, but got up for a drink of water and found yet another funny comment! Everyone is in great form. Good night now, for real.
So according to here...TFW is losing. She put herself and the kids on the cover of a slack ass magazine..To try to get her name out there.
TFW got the cover ....but...no one cares. TFW was hoping to get people to take her side. Get attention while she sues her X. Jon has been gone for a long time. The kid's love being with Jon....no pressure...nothing.
TFW beats the kids into submission....Tell them how you miss filming.That you would be nothing without it. Really TFW...we all know the kids hate to be with you. I beat the kids b/c....fill in the blank.... The kids giggle and laugh at?
Kate Gosselin....You ARE a child and animal abuser!!!! PLS BV call me out. kate gosselin is a Child and Animal Abuser!
Boyson, a federal court can exercise jurisdiction over state law claims if there are also federal claims in the complaint. You don't have to file your state and federal claims in separate courts.
So TFW get's a spot in a magazine. She's hoping it will force people to remember who she is. She is the wrangler of 8 count them 8!! Kids, Now OMG!!!! After 4 years her ex Jon made her fail in reality tv. TFW is trying to sue b/c she has nothing...no income...nothing! She thought if she got her name out there again to remind everyone of who she is....the public would take her side on this newest lawsuit.
Well sorry honey...the public hates YOU but will be there to protect the kids you haven't thought twice about. All this newest lawsuit has brought about? RH's book which proves you are a Child and Animal abuser. You don't deny what he is saying.You are whining b/c someone outed you with you'r own words.
I dont care who and how someone OUTS a Child abuser. The truth is out there now..keep going TFW....you are digging ur own grave.
Ha! I gave ZERO dirty looks today.. Was I deep in thought, concentrating and happened to look his way? Most likely! *********************************************
Kim Weiss 51 minutes ago near Ocean Ridge, FL · @Kimmerieweiss This week's theme: herding cats. I meant that literally and figuratively (she said as kittens intermittently swatted then swirled around her ankles). You figure out the "figuratively."
Haha . . . Saw that Gosselinbook has pictures of Kate with her "spanker". Have a suggestion for all of the sheeple who like to watch TFW on Netflix, playing "Find the Spanker" while watching will make the show much more interesting. Kind of like playing "What does not belong in these pictures."
I remember seeing the footage of Kate carrying around that roll in her hand. The editing elves either didn't catch that one or thought no one would pick up on it. It's a hard roll being carried around why? Please, sheep, come up with one plausible explanation of why a hard roll is wielded in Kate's hand in a scene where the kids are acting up and being disciplined? And why does anyone store a large spoon in the car door? Maps? sure. Big a big mixing spoon? Unless Kate has an emergency supply of Kool Aid she just has to stir while in the car, there is no reason other than to happy up the children, which is to say, strike them with the object. Kate's own words tell of her penchant for corporal punishment AND her not ONE, but her SUPPLY of spare "spankers" she keeps handy to enforce discipline. Jon might not have money, but he has so much less to hide. His exploits have been made public. Sex, possibly drugs, alcohol, rubbing elbows with scumbags, moving to NYC etc... A scathing book about him has been here and gone. No one sued over it. It's not even a blip on the radar. Yet, despite the tabloids and book, Jon has managed to slowly repair his image simply by retreating from the public eye and focusing on his kids. Kate, on the other hand, is hoping that strong arm tactics will silence her critics and evidence that will reveal the fraud she perpetrated on her fans and the general public for years. She's got a lot more to lose and I think, from his most recent interview, that Jon knows this.
Seriously, Kate won't give out her tomato salad recipe to a tweetie and told her to buy the book? The recipe is out there already, dear sheeple, and here it is:
Tomato-Onion Salad Recipe 1/4 cup extra virgin olive oil 1 1/2 tablespoons balsamic vinegar 1/2 teaspoon salt 1/4 teaspoon sugar 1/4 teaspoon pepper 4 large tomatoes, thinly sliced 1 medium-size sweet onion, thinly sliced 1/4 cup chopped fresh basil Put together the first 5 ingredients in a large bowl. Arrange tomato and onions slices in rows in a serving dish. Sprinkle with chopped basil, and drizzle evenly with marinade. Cover it and let it stand at room temperature for at least 2 hours.
The vinaigrette proportions are way off and you'll probably want to whisk the salad dressing before you dress the veggies, oh and you might want to toss the veggies with the dressing... (sorry, the incomplete instructions drive me nuts)
Omg, those photos make me sick. What sort of COLD-HEARTED BITCH walks around w/ a weapon by her side in anticipation of beating her small children? WHAT A MONSTER!
A good mother would teach conflict resolution skills, but of course she would be incapable of that seeing as she has none, herself.
One of the more vocal, blogging sheeple made the comments below this morning. While I doubt it's realistic to expect Twitter to turn over this information, or to think that Razzmatazz would spend time and $$ going after it, don't the sheeple realize that Jon's attorneys could do the same? I remember quite a few death threats against Jon and some of the non-fans. They're all on record.
realziggyflo @parker_scarlett @Kateplusmy8 It's reasonable to expect that IP's from twitter will be subpoenaed. From there ISP's will likely be 1/2
realziggyflo @parker_scarlett @Kateplusmy8 2/2 subpoenaed for real names. From there likely all IP's assigned to to specific real ID's will be obtained.
It's a hard roll being carried around why? Please, sheep, come up with one plausible explanation of why a hard roll is wielded in Kate's hand in a scene where the kids are acting up and being disciplined?
A good mother would teach conflict resolution skills, but of course she would be incapable of that seeing as she has none, herself. ****** Someone linked to the Dutch Wonderland episode yesterday, so I watched the segment and Jon really impressed me. The kids were melting down.. a couple in particular. Jon seemed very aware of his surroundings and addressed the misbehavior with each child by pulling them to the side, getting *down to their level* and talking to them to calm them down and restore order. He seemed to address them as individuals and with love, even though it must have been incredibly trying day. A logistical nightmare! And Jon carrying each of the tups all the way up those darn stairs of the slide ride was really sweet and touching.
Where are the photos of TFW with the Spanker & updates? I have http://gosselinbook.blogspot.com/ bookmarked but nothing new is on it. Is there another link?
It's reasonable to expect that IP's from twitter will be subpoenaed. From there ISP's will likely be 1/2
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Why? Do they understand this lawsuit has absolutely nothing to do with Twitter, the haters, the fans, or anything but some petty little incident where Jon may or may not have gathered personal property that very likely he had every right to?
The lawsuit defending the FANS' rights that was promised is completely nonexistent at this point.
Where are the photos of TFW with the Spanker & updates? I have http://gosselinbook.blogspot.com/ bookmarked but nothing new is on it. Is there another link?
Did Kate never learn that if you keep poking a stick at a rattlesnake sooner or later that snake is going to bite. Robert warned her with very loud hisses that if she kept poking he would strike. That's exactly what he is doing now.
Omg, those photos make me sick. What sort of COLD-HEARTED BITCH walks around w/ a weapon by her side in anticipation of beating her small children? WHAT A MONSTER!
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Even the most heinous of child abusers have to go retrieve their weapon to beat the children when they want to. She all but made herself a holder on her belt for the thing. So sad.
Can you imagine as a little child walking around the playroom or kitchen just trying to do normal things and every time you look at your mother you see that weapon by her side ready to beat you again should you step out of line? Like a prison guard and his club.
Why? Do they understand this lawsuit has absolutely nothing to do with Twitter, the haters, the fans, or anything but some petty little incident where Jon may or may not have gathered personal property that very likely he had every right to? _________________
This all has more to do with how much more the fans hate the "haters" than they love Kate. They're hoping for something drastic to be leveled on those who don't like Kate and her abusive ways.
Did Kate never learn that if you keep poking a stick at a rattlesnake sooner or later that snake is going to bite.
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Exactly. I for one never, ever, ever notice that WEAPON she is carrying around. Thanks to Robert now I know. More proof she BEAT HER BABIES. Thank you Robert.
Marie said... 16 Haha . . . Saw that Gosselinbook has pictures of Kate with her "spanker". Have a suggestion for all of the sheeple who like to watch TFW on Netflix, playing "Find the Spanker" while watching will make the show much more interesting. _______________________
Ha, Marie! Good suggestion. It's kind of like finding hidden Mickeys in Disney World!
I almost think at this point she needs to own up to it. Make a public statement that yes a long time ago she did use physical discipline on her children, although she denies ever doing anything illegal. There is no excuse for it and she deeply regrets it. She has since taken steps to learn better non-physical techniques to parent her child, including therapy and intensive parenting classes, and would urge all parents who are feeling frustrated and helpless to do the same.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 29 LOL I love how passive aggressive Kim Weiss is. ******* Oh, Kim, it's like trying to explain gravity to a chicken.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 12h Well, I had something kind of surprising that happened yesterday 2share.... Expand Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 1h @MiloandJack yes?
Katie, dear, you're just going to have to wait for the book to come out!!!
Tweet I agree. It's about the fight between the fans and nonfans for some of them. How silly. And OLD. Kate's not going to help them with that, she's made that much clear. She is laser focused on Jon. This whole complaint mostly talks about Jon. I kept wondering how exactly Robert fit into it, other than slapping his name on the header. Wasn't he the one to write the book? LOL. Don't you have a stronger case for a "stranger" taking your things as opposed to your own husband? Instead the complaint blabs on and on about everything JON did. Where's Robert??
It just solidified my opinion she is absolutely 100% obsessed with bringing down Jon. Anyone else is an afterthought. Robert, non-fans, whatever, it's all about Jon.
If you look in the middle photo that Robert posted it looks like one of the kids is facing the wall and she is walking away with whatever she is holding in her hand
Ha! I gave ZERO dirty looks today.. Was I deep in thought, concentrating and happened to look his way? Most likely! ______________
What's so funny about that is Kate doesn't have the brain power to be in "deep thought" about anything. However, she could have been ruminating over all the hate she feels for Jon. That's something more believable. Guess she couldn't tweet that though.
Off the subject- I watched an old favorite on DVD the other day. It was The Mask with Jim Carey. The part where Mr Carey holds up a trophy and says They love me, they really love me" . I could picture TFW in the privacy of her home in front of the mirror, holding a fake trophy. And with the same overly white veneered teeth reciting the same lines! Or she would say " You will love me or I will sue". HA With her obession with celebrity life, I wouldn't put it past her.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 37 I almost think at this point she needs to own up to it. Make a public statement that yes a long time ago she did use physical discipline on her children, _______
She would've to admit that Jon did nothing wrong if she did.
She would've to admit that what she did to her children was wrong and apologize.
She'd have to admit she's not the great mother her fans thinks she is.
I don't see none of these happening. Cause to her she's all ways right and can do no wrong in her mind.
The vinaigrette proportions are way off and you'll probably want to whisk the salad dressing before you dress the veggies,
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Yes, she never says to whisk or stir. Am I correct then that it's not really a vinaigrette at all? I thought a vinaigrette had, at its very basic level, vinegar, to which as you whisk or briskly stir, you add olive oil. That's when you get that wonderfully frothy light colored "vinaigrette" that thickens the more you stir. Seal with lemon juice.
If you don't do that to make this unique mixture, all you would have is olive oil with little unslightly black vinegar spots floating in it.
It is chemistry, I thought.
And if you're not going to even so much as give it a little stir, what was the point of putting the liquids into a separate dish? Why not just dump them one at a time directly onto the tomatoes and save yourself dirtying a dish.
I can't see it happening either Chef, however from a PR standpoint it may be her only option if she ever wants to truly recover.
She needs to put herself in a position of being remorseful and contrite. Once she has locked herself into that position, if she continues to be attacked it will start looking like a piling on and the mood will change just like it did with Paula Deen, from we've got to get her and show her, to, okay enough already.
But because she keeps staring Robert down stubbornly just daring him to do it, she hasn't been able to get any sympathy and no one has even breathed mention that this is a piling on. She has got to rearrange the cards here so that can happen. She won't, but it's what she should do if she had good PR.
According to the lawsuit, John and Jane Doe 1-20 cheered on Jon and Robert and assisted in wiretapping and ID theft. Not only doesn't this involve Twitter haters, like Admin said, it doesn't even involve Robert. Maybe the sheep will understand that after they understand the difference between a lawsuit and criminal prosecution. But don't hold your breath.
I can definitely see her having an ebay account with a random name you can't identify as her where she throws all their mountains of old freebies on there and watches them sell.
Robert needs a link at the top of his blog to his website. When you google Gosselin Book ypu get the blog link first. It is a bit harder to find the website which is what he wants everyone to see!
It must be very painful for Kate that no one seems to be interested in her bus stop pictures/video. I'm sure she woke up early, shined up her jugs, put on her new pumps with her daisy dukes with the built in spander holder -- and NO ONE published the photos? HELLO!!! PAY ATTENTION!!! Else, I shall pull out my Spanker!!
If I'm not mistaken, Kate wasn't even ON twitter when all this went down.
I thought she joined twitter in 2011, correct?
No one even had the foggiest idea this was even happening to cheer anything on. How absurd. No one even knew Robert had ANY significance to this whatsoever except that guy that drove Jon home after he dropped off his screaming and crying children begging him, Daddy don't go! We were all confused when this guy came out of nowhere with this book, no one had a clue.
Can the sheeple file a class action suit against Jon for damages because they have been deprived of seeing and knowing every detail of his children's lives? And reducing them to stupid interactions on Twitter when they could have been watching TFW on their teevees?
Yes, she never says to whisk or stir. Am I correct then that it's not really a vinaigrette at all? I thought a vinaigrette had, at its very basic level, vinegar, to which as you whisk or briskly stir, you add olive oil. ****** Correctomundo! That's the correct method and this will be an oil slick. You can make a vinaigrette with just oil and acid, but it will separate. That's OK, just expect to keep whisking or stirring it. Vinaigrettes are stabilized by emulsifiers, generally mustard or egg yolk. Other stabilizers are added in commercial preparations.
I don't think she should say she's changed, no one believes that for sure. I think she should say she is getting HELP. That's a difference. It's hard to be mad at someone who is trying to get help, especially when you can probably easily verify that they are in fact getting help.
Right Admin, no one knew a thing about Robert until he started sending his cryptic tweets about the book. We didn't learn his name until just before the book was released. And obviously no one knew the story of Jon hacking Kate's emails until after the story broke, 18 months before Kate had Twitter. To suggest this has anything to do with Twitter is idiotic. #SheepleLogic
And as I recall, a lot of us, myself included, really blasted Robert when he first came on the scene. We thought he was teasing and taunting too much and a number of us didn't even really believe he had much of anything important to say in that book or he would have released it already.
I remember when Robert sent me a copy of the book a few days before it was released to review for the blog, he said I had been very hard on him. Though he seemed to understand it and didn't seem upset.
No takers on the bus stop. It may be because the interest is not there, but I wonder if it's actually because a normal person feels a little uncomfortable plastering the kids everywhere on a story like this. I think almost everyone recognizes how bad this is for the kids. This isn't the usual Kate pumps gas story. This is serious. I don't think any news organization wants to be accused of dragging the kids into it. Hence, not touching those pics/video with a 10 foot pole.
I am so happy that TFW's attorneys are demanding a jury trial. As someone who lives in a county near TFW, I can tell you that no one feels sorry for her and her fake crocodile tears are not going to play well for a jury. I think she would be better off with just a judge. Can you image a jury with working mothers listening to her poor me routine? I would love to be on that jury.
A lot of people thought @gosselinbook on Twitter was Walt. He wasn't taken seriously because he didn't give indication that he had the goods at the time and we've been lead down the primrose path before on Twitter.
I watched an old favorite on DVD the other day. It was The Mask with Jim Carey. The part where Mr Carey holds up a trophy and says They love me, they really love me" . I could picture TFW in the privacy of her home in front of the mirror, holding a fake trophy.
Sorry, here's the link to the vid http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3TKK6d3-h2U&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D3TKK6d3-h2U
Adrienne Evers @adrienneevers 30m @Kateplusmy8 Hi Kate would LOVE to see some photos of the mini Gosselin's school lunches! Keep up the supermom work! x ____________
What is she shipping and receiving all the time?? Is she running some sort of side business behind everyone's back?
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She probably shops online for kids clothing, shoes, school supplies, etc., and for course her Bella Bars, Wantables, etc., would all be delivered that way.
Swimgirl, TFW demanding a jury trial surprised me, too, especially in eastern PA. I would have thought that would be Jon's response. Where I live, you have to pay extra to demand a jury trial. She should have let that be Jon's burden, but I'm glad she didn't.
Online shopping can all be run straight out of your front door. What's the deal with not having packages come to the door? Can't the UPS guy just be let in?
It's a huge waste of gas all the time, if we're going to talk about saving money. And defeats the purpose of online shopping where the whole point is to do it from your home.
Others have said asking for a jury trial is standard language. In some jurisdictions you may have to ask for it upfront or you've waived the right to ask. That said, it kind of shows the level of delusion here. She really thinks, if I can just get 12 people (or nine, or whatever it will be) down and explain things, they will understand and vote for me.
@Kateplusmy8 Hi Kate would LOVE to see some photos of the mini Gosselin's school lunches! Keep up the supermom work! x
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It's bad enough that the fans want pictures showing all aspects of the kids' lives. Now they want to exploit those poor lunches, too! Doesn't a sandwich, a crunchy thing and a frozen cookie deserve some privacy?
It's a huge waste of gas all the time, if we're going to talk about saving money. And defeats the purpose of online shopping where the whole point is to do it from your home.
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Maybe she doesn't want to go to the stores...you know, so darn many paps, creating a media frenzy, whatever. In her mind, she's still relevant.
What was the point of BV outing those comments? I can barely read or make sense of them and overall they prove nothing. The sheeple are in a frenzy. Is he just playing to them? Why would he do that?
msgoody2shoes21 @Kateplusmy8 @RebeccaPearson5 Have you thought about high schools for the twins yet?. I know you have 2 years to go but time flies.
What does this mean? Does she think that Kate is going to take them out of their current school and put them into a public high school? Has that even been discussed?
http://ow.ly/onz3b Interesting article at the link. The kids look really happy in the picture. ------
The photo they used in this article is eerily like the book cover that Robert Hoffman is now using...a "queen" surrounded by her "pawns"....I couldn't help but notice the similarities....
What's the deal with not having packages come to the door? Can't the UPS guy just be let in?
It's a huge waste of gas all the time, if we're going to talk about saving money. And defeats the purpose of online shopping where the whole point is to do it from your home.
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I'm not sure if anyone commented about this, but a new company was featured on yesterday's GMA. It was started by 2 moms that are selling a lunchable type of product, using preservative free and low salt ingredients. Personally, I think that the packaging is xcessive and wasteful, but, it has been picked up by major national stores and is sold next to lunch able. Another missed opportunity for TFW.
The women who started it were just mediocre folks, who invested in their idea.
If you look at that first picture, she has one kid by the arm and whatever that is in the other hand. I feel sorry for those kids. My mom was mentally, verbally and physically abusive and it changes you inside. I hope she gets help, for her own sake as much as the kids' sake.
I didn't post #6 regarding Auntie Ann and Meagler being trolls at 12:52 a.m.. I have no idea what this nut case was trying to prove, but I will address this person and to tell them to get lost or find another name other than url, you shit stirrer. You are messing with the wrong person, you POS.
I think she would be better off with just a judge. Can you image a jury with working mothers listening to her poor me routine? I would love to be on that jury.
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I'm not so sure a bench trial would be the way to go. Judges in that district are no nonsense. Might serve her better for a jury trial, in hopes that she gets jury members who are moms and sympathize with her plight of being a struggling single parent of eight kids with that old "ex from hell" hounding her.
"If you look in the middle photo that Robert posted it looks like one of the kids is facing the wall and she is walking away with whatever she is holding in her hand
This woman is despicable :("
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I saw that too Nancy and it made me want to vomit and cry at the same time. The first photo where she has the toddler gripped by the arm and the "spanker" in the other hand is equally disturbing.
They were just babies...BABIES!
I don't know Admin, I get what you're saying about Kate needing to be apologetic and contrite. She needs to own her actions and cop to her behaviour instead of farting rainbows and sunshine.
I doubt though that it would do any good as far as her public image goes. She's cooked.
That being said, getting help and putting in a real effort to live a more authentic and genuine life with her kids as her real priority would go a long way to healing 8 little hearts.
I just don't believe Kate has it in her. She's got stars in her eyes and sees nothing else but her own need for fame and adulation.
In the pictures with the "spanker" she is holding a child's arm with her right hand and the spanker is in her left hand. It appears that she is spanking the child. In the middle picture it appears as though a small boy is facing the wall standing up and she is walking away, then in the last picture she is sitting with the weapon of choice right next to her. I wonder who took these blurry pictures. hmmmm
Complete speculation here: I am getting the feeling that Razzle dazzle, Bv best bud, has never seen an episode of a program with TFMJG in it. has never read any of her books. Has never read Roberts book. Has farmed out actual work on preparing the complaint to an assistant of some kind. Has taken TFMJG statements as the entire truth, and not just as the truth as she sees it. Also has not consulted with Laverne and Shirley to find out exactly how TFMJG is as a client. Completely fell for the pr that TFMJG was a huge draw on cable, when the ten million viewer figure so often mentioned was for the divorce announcement train wreck episode! It would be interesting to be a fly on the wall of the Razzle Dazzle office now and in the coming months, when the realization that this situation is not what was presented to him before signing on.
I thought TFW had a UPS box or whatever to handle all the 'fan' parcels they used to get and they would periodically pick them up. I remember one episode where Aaden accompanied Jon on errands and he has so much cardboard from packages to recycle.I figured TFW continues to use the box for all her grifts as well as items she ordered. She probably still gets a lot of stuff from sheeple.Also a pap opportunity for her- then.
Admin 137 said: It's like switching to skim milk. It tastes like water at first and you want to forget that change. But if you stick with it, it tastes fine eventually and then the milk you used to drink tastes gross. ****** good point. When I switched, it went down one grade at a time. From whole milk to 2%, then 1% and then to skim. It made the transition easier. And now whole milk is just too rich to drink, although I do like 1% or 2% with my cereal.
No takers on the bus stop. It may be because the interest is not there, but I wonder if it's actually because a normal person feels a little uncomfortable plastering the kids everywhere on a story like this. I think almost everyone recognizes how bad this is for the kids. This isn't the usual Kate pumps gas story. This is serious. I don't think any news organization wants to be accused of dragging the kids into it. Hence, not touching those pics/video with a 10 foot pole.
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Good theory Admin, but I'm not buying it. They're not looking out for the kids, they're looking out for themselves. Although I'm thrilled mainstream media has finally FINALLY not given her a free pass, using the words ABUSE, SPANKER, WOODEN SPOON... laughing AT her, they are just following orders from the powers that be. Just like they demonized Jon, only to make sure their Queen kept the $ rolling or to protect their assets, now they want to be as disassociated with her as possible. The pap pic at the bus stop would be out there if "they" (not sure who they are lol, but I think Oprah's behind it)wanted it to be. They all of a sudden have morals and recognize how bad this is for the kids?? nah, not buying it. There are other reasons why it didn't make it to the tabloids and it has nothing to do with protecting the kids. They're hanging her out to dry, the same way they did to Jon.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 2h @undercovermumma Well...seems I have found where me awesome gal went! Undercover LITERALLY....did U wish 2b found? :) I followed. ****** Man, that is out and out creepy. "she" basically admits to stalking this person, finding out their new user name somehow. "I followed." Yikes.
If a friend of mine, someone I followed on Twitter, changed their twitter user name and didn't tell me -- I would respect their wishes and leave them the heck alone!
Rainbow - why not have them delivered directly to the house?
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The gate. What if she's away on the day (days) those things are expected for delivery? I seriously doubt that she's going to sit home waiting all day for UPS to show up, and she's not going to give them free access to the gate to drop the packages off on her porch.
Admin said: She may have a heck of a time proving damages beyond anything but the fair market value of the electronics, and even then there's a fair argument Jon had every right to take those, both because it was martial property and because it was by the side of the road. ***** And even if she was awarded damages for the value of the computer, seems like that should be divided in half, since they were still married and that computer was "theirs," not "mine all mine." So one used computer, let's say it was only one year old, purchased for $1,500. Estimated value at time of loss = $900, less 50% that belonged to Jon anyway = $450. Would be hilarious if the the final ruling was for defendant to reimburse plaintiff $450 for the computer valuation.
PA Dutch Mom said... 89 msgoody2shoes21 @Kateplusmy8 @RebeccaPearson5 Have you thought about high schools for the twins yet?. I know you have 2 years to go but time flies.
What does this mean? Does she think that Kate is going to take them out of their current school and put them into a public high school? Has that even been discussed?
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Since she's so obsessed with Jon, I doubt she's aware their private school goes through Grade 12.
localyocul said... 92 What's the deal with not having packages come to the door? Can't the UPS guy just be let in?
It's a huge waste of gas all the time, if we're going to talk about saving money. And defeats the purpose of online shopping where the whole point is to do it from your home.
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IIRC, she didn't have a mailbox because it would have been located on the street, outside the gate and she also didn't want to have to open the gate because it might be one of the smelly sheep, rather than the ups person. And so she got a pobox at the local ups store.
When I saw the picture of Kate and her whacking rod all I could think of was the Pearls. they wrote a controversial book, to train up a child. It encourages use of a plumbing rod or like object and the use of wooden spoons on small children, in fact the book encourages spanking, and hitting with the rod almost from birth. The Duggars have endorsed this book (and Michelle has never straight forward answered, do you spank the kids, she gives a roundabout answers about more praise then punishment, or about lifelong training of a child). The Pearls seem to have their following from certain Christian groups so I didn't know if back then when Kate was on the love offerings stage of her life, she might have gotten a copy of the book or had even known about it from her father being a Pastor.
I have follow Kate on and off over the years and I'm glad your site is here and that she is off the air, well the weekly show. As much as I think Kate is a monster at least her kids will get some choices in life someday. At 18 an see Kate booting them out the door if they are not making her money or cleaning her house. The Duggar kids will never fully get their freedom and the abuse IMO is worse because it is physical and emotional. What bothers me more is that the Duggars still air and thee are many people who watch the show that want to be like the Duggars so much they are buying books like the Pearls and implementing physical abuse with a plumbing rod on a baby because the Duggars approved. I think Kate is vile, but I doubt too many people who see her wooden spoon or rod will run out and copy her actions (most are upset seeing it).
PJ - I am so sorry to hear about the way your mother treated you. Mere words cannot express how much I wish it were otherwise, for every single person. Our parents are supposed to love and protect us.
It's bad enough that the fans want pictures showing all aspects of the kids' lives. Now they want to exploit those poor lunches, too! Doesn't a sandwich, a crunchy thing and a frozen cookie deserve some privacy?
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Literally laughed out loud! Perhaps we should start a new blog about how the rights of Gosselin food need to be respected!
If you look at that first picture, she has one kid by the arm and whatever that is in the other hand.
Judging from the muscle tenseness in her arms, it looks like she's pushing back on the little boy to avoid him crushing the girl who's in front of him.
Can't have one of those icky boys touching the girl, or her.
Millicent said... 39 Other gripes involved the new bread, which students don’t want to eat because it’s brown wheat bread, and the new milk, which is skim or one percent fat, not two percent or whole. The cafeteria’s chocolate- and strawberry-flavored milk offerings are now nonfat. ****** Wheat bread is definitely better than white bread and contains more nutrients. I'd have to actually see the bread provided, because many wheat breads are quite delicious. As to the milk choices, I'm not sure. My child is approaching age 16. He's always been skinny. His metabolism burns at a high rate. So he gets whole milk, because he needs those calories.
I still pack a lunch for my son because he doesn't like cafeteria food. If I were a parent on the lunch program, I think I might pack some extra choices for my child, to supplement the lunch program. Some pretzels, a bagel w/cream cheese, half a sandwich, whatever. &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& The federal school lunch program is for families who meet the poverty threshold. Packing extra choices often is not an option, which is why the child is receiving the free meal to begin with.
I'm glad that they have changed the food served. If the food tastes like crap, then they need to teach people how to cook it properly. Healthy and unappetizing are not synonymous.
BS said... You can see it even edited if you pay close attention: -------- Thanks for posting that, BS. The future therapists for the kids will have plenty of evidence, for sure.
One of the other things that is disturbing is that whenever a kid (including Jon!) fails to follow along, Kate starts narrating for the camera, instead of dealing with the problem. It is military rule, no dissent allowed, ever. No individual preferences, ever. No choices, ever. ANd except when jOn took the time to take the "offender" AWAY from the camera, Their we're unbelievably close up shots of their sad or angry little faces.
Also, Jon and TFW were, although stressed, affectionate and obviously very close. How sad that their kids will have a chronicle of the implosion of what, while certainly imperfect, was a loving relationship.
"Maybe the reason she won't say she has beaten her children is because she hasn't stopped?? That would open a whole can of worms!"
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Actually Tomatoes, I didn't have the stomach to think about that but you make an excellent point.
The reality is most abusers, unless they get help, don't generally stop of their own volition. Physical abuse is in and of itself a coping mechanism and usually the go to response when the abuser is stressed.
We saw for years on the show that Kate doesn't have any coping skills when she's stressed out. She yells, she lashes out, she's irrational and she's terribly inconsistent.
The thing is, if she was willing to do that to her babies in front of a houseful of volunteers and production crew, she obviously doesn't really see anything wrong with it.
The only reason she likely cared at all about it not getting out that this is her discipline of choice is because the public (you know, us mediocre yahoos) would have been up in arms and stopped watching the show much sooner.
She got what, 5 years?, of being the Queen of Reality TV...she wasn't about to compromise the paychecks and freebies by admitting that that's how she chooses to discipline her children. (I use the term discipline very loosely here folks, in my mind it's abuse plain and simple.)
What I want to know is how many bloody CA's are out there, exactly what the terms were/are and how the people who witnessed this abuse of babies and were more concerned about their jobs than the welfare of these kids sleep at night?
That is why I respect Mr. Hoffman's effort to ensure this info sees the light of day.
As far as I'm concerned, TLC had a huge hand in helping Kate get away with the abuse. That's even more reprehensible than I have words for.
Millicent -- yes, very creepy to go hunting for a person like she did. I wonder if she ever thought that maybe that person wanted to stay hidden for a reason.
"If you look in the middle photo that Robert posted it looks like one of the kids is facing the wall and she is walking away with whatever she is holding in her hand:
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Too bad one of the television news shows (TMZ, Extra, Entertainment, Access) doesn't plaster that picture on the big screen. One picture is worth a thousand words.
The new pics on Robert's site are breaking my heart, especially the center one with one of the toddlers cowering in the corner as his very own mother proudly stomps away with her beating instrument in hand.
One of my questions is this:
WHAT DID THE FILM CREW KNOW AND WHEN DID THEY KNOW IT?
These pics are stills from an episode which means TLC and Figure 8 and all the other endlessly named production people witnessed all this.
Love the Good Morning America clip where the 5 or 6 folks laugh hysterically that Robert's book damaged her pristine reputation. Love it! ("Oh the BOOK did that, eh? BWAHAHAHAHA!")
I plan on buying a truck load of popcorn and a big box o wine for this, coz JGFW's arrogance is taking her down the rest of the way now.
I admittedly know little about legalish things and wonder if Jon and Robert can subpoena (if that's the correct word) former TLC employees to testify as to what they saw while filming?
Maybe the pending lawsuit agai st RH and Jon, that Bullyville talked about had something to do with her firing. Hard to believe that this post from one stir blogger against another would have been allowed when she was still under contract.
"I admittedly know little about legalish things and wonder if Jon and Robert can subpoena (if that's the correct word) former TLC employees to testify as to what they saw while filming?
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Jane, I don't know much about the legal system either, maybe someone who does can clarify.
Isn't "discovery" a two way street?
Are CA's still valid when it comes to trying to prove abuse against minor children?
To use Tomatoes expression, "A can of worms" indeed.
"Maybe the reason she won't say she has beaten her children is because she hasn't stopped?? That would open a whole can of worms!"
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I seriously doubt it. At this point, they are older, they are in school, and given that the past allegations have surfaced, she'd be a fool to continue this. The kids would tell...there are too many of them. Someone would find out. That's the last thing she'd want out there for public and media consumption.
Anonymous said: The federal school lunch program is for families who meet the poverty threshold. Packing extra choices often is not an option, which is why the child is receiving the free meal to begin with. ****** I spoke/wrote without thinking it through. Of course, if they are on this program, this may be the only one (or two, if breakfast is included) full meals of the day for that child. Sometimes, new things taste funny because they are new. Hopefully, the healthier choices will soon become familiar and more tasty to the children eating them.
I'm still scratching my head over these 20 or so cheerleaders. So if someone authors a blog, saying "Go Robert Go" (urging him to release the book), is that cheering him on? Or are the cheerleaders ones who personally encouraged him to go after the trash and put this book together?
I totally get what you're saying, but I find TFW is 100x worse, because she HIDES the abuse, has her KIDS hide it and is using every ounce of her being to stop the world from reading her own words! Entries that said she was afraid she'd REALLY hurt those kids one day. Those other freaks preach it, write about it, lecture about it and truly believe their own bull*hit. Oh I don't know... :( they're all mentally ill!!
Kate will never apologize, nor seek help for her problems, because there is something permanently non-functionable in her brain that does not allow her to think as most of us do. The wiring is crossed. Right and wrong do not hold the same meaning in her brain as they do for most of us. Compassion? Missing. Concern for the well-being of others, even her own children? Nope. Is there a genetic component in our DNA for love, empathy, compassion, conscience? If so, I'd say that strand is missing from Kate's DNA.
Anyway, she will never admit all the things she did wrong. She will never seek therapy or medication for her illnesses. She will only go further and further into that black hole where her heart should be.
When she was a younger woman, she was able to better mask her true nature, behind a pretty facade. That facade is already breaking down. She'll keep having cosmetic procedures in a futile attempt to remain young and fresh looking. She better hope she doesn't have a horrible experience like Priscilla Presley. Priscilla had a facelift that has left her permanently unnatural in appearance. Before the lift, she was a beautiful woman. It's so sad.
I am looking forward to the release of Robert's revised book. I hope he had a good editor help him with it.
What law do you prosecute cheerleaders under anyway? I've seen The Accused where they got them under solicitation, but that was very serious, in regards to a gang rape, and the prosecutor's office was very reluctant because they thought the actions really didn't qualify (true story). Not a simple taking possession of a couple discs. Notably their brief cites nothing, no statute or case law, in regards to how all these doe a deers did anything illegal.
I seriously doubt it. At this point, they are older, they are in school, and given that the past allegations have surfaced, she'd be a fool to continue this. The kids would tell...there are too many of them. Someone would find out. That's the last thing she'd want out there for public and media consumption. *********************************** I wouldn't be too sure. There are adult victims still don't tell. When you're a hostage of dysfunction, very hard for you to tell. And children still want to protect the abusing parent
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So true, she was stunning. I thought I heard she had cheek implants or fillers put in by some quack and he used motor oil or something? He's in jail now. What I don't get is she's richer than God, and she goes to a quack??
"The book, which hit stores in 2012, was written by Jon's friend, Robert Hoffman, and has since been pulled from Amazon because the material for it was pulled illegally."
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When did it hit the stores? I must have missed that one! Gosh, you blink and that shelf is empty!
I'm not so sure the reason it was pulled from Amazon because it was obtained illegally. That was never proven at that point (still isn't)...the question was ownership of the content, wasn't it?
The Stir is pretty much the only outlet attacking Jon.
It also assumes Jon was trying to write a tell all when it's been crystal clear from day one Jon was merely trying to gather ammunition to fight Kate in court since she and TLC were going to bury him otherwise. It was Robert who then wrote the book and said, very clearly, Jon had absolutely nothing to do with the book. Nothing.
They also say Amazon pulled the book because it was obtained illegally, a flat out lie. Amazon does not play judge and jury. Amazon pulled the book because they got notice of a dispute and it is their policy to pull books until disputes are resolved no matter how true or untrue. When the dispute is resolved they are happy to repost the book.
Ex Nurse, I read that tripe on The Stir. it was poorly written and puts equal blame on Jon and Kate for this lawsuit, for the tell all book, etc. Infuriating.
Jon was moving (or trying to move) his stuff out, in the rain at night. Hoffman comes to help him. Kate calls the police to make them leave and says she'll throw away whatever stuff he leaves behind. Hoffman returns the next day before the garbage pick up and takes stuff from the garbage can. (I don't know if he told Jon he would do this, but he states he did it on his own.)
Three years go by, and Hoffman publishes a poorly edited tell all book. Any minor profits would go solely to him.
TLC gets it pulled because of copyright violations.
In August 2013, Kate files a federal lawsuit against Jon and Hoffman, making all sorts of allegations.
How is this Jon's fault? This is what gripes me about so much of the commentary. Jon has been minding his own business for years, living a private mediocre life. Yet because his crazy ex files a federal lawsuit, somehow he's at fault for Hoffman's tell all book?
The guy cannot win for losing. Either he's being castigated for not obtaining full custody, for not exposing Kate's child abuse; or he's being castigated for allegedly participating in Hoffman's tell all book and sharing the "dirty laundry." Seriously, no matter what this man does, there are those who willy-nilly will say he's equally at fault, that he's the one instigating it, that he should do the opposite.
Vanessa said... 130 Priscilla had a facelift that has left her permanently unnatural in appearance. Before the lift, she was a beautiful woman. It's so sad. ****************************************
So true, she was stunning. I thought I heard she had cheek implants or fillers put in by some quack and he used motor oil or something? He's in jail now. What I don't get is she's richer than God, and she goes to a quack?? ______________
The "in crowd" was going to botox home parties and this quack would inject them there. It was some kind of low grade silicone that was used in South America to lube cars. Many of the people who got botoxed there ended up with disfigurements.
Jon has been minding his own business for years, living a private mediocre life.
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It was only six years ago that Jon and Kate sat on that couch together and said they wanted the best for their kids. Kate was lying. It's incredible how far off the rails this has gone.
I'm surprised that TFW hasn't had what in the past was called a nervous breakdown. It's possible she's on meds for something (depression, bipolar, whatever) in dealing with any mental issues she has going on. It's no laughing matter, and I'm not going to be shocked to read that somewhere in the near future she's been admitted to Hershey Med. If that's what it takes to help her, then that's what she needs to do.
1. The Stir has a dog in the fight. She may be a real dog, but she was their dog for a while. 2. Kate fans and BV hangers-on really have comprehension problems. Civil vs Criminal? This is their long awaited BV civil suit against the Kate-hater tweeters? The 20 or so Doe people from PA named in the lawsuit are Kate-hater tweeters? 3. Razzledazzle is depending on Kate's story/honesty much like BV depended on the story/honesty of Kate fans?
If it weren't so sad for those 8 kids, I'd say you can't pay for this much entertainment.
Sadly, there are 8 kids who are going to end up horribly confused, ultimately very unhappy, and at least some, probably somewhat dysfunctional in their ability to have good relationships in the future.
My hope and prayers are for Jon to weather yet another storm. He needs to be there at the end game, when those kids are going to need him the most.
My most ardent hope and prayers are for those kids. That they can overcome the obstacles their parents created for them.
Sorry folks...I skimmed the article and the negative remarks about Kate jumped out...honestly! Thought it was noteworthy because it was on the stir. Jon is having to pay a very heavy price for what appears to be about 6 months of bad, very public misbehavior. He continued to show shockingly poor judgement when he was literally being followed by the paps. And, the fact that the kids were ever on TV at all was because of their joint decision to sign 2 contracts that signed away their rights.
Time will tell if Jon planned this info leak to RH, and is, in fact, his business partner. If he was, I just can't see how this is in the best interest of his children. If so, it will mean that Jon was trying to profit from the abuse of his children.
I don't understand why it is right to participate in revealing shocking abuse to the public about a mother, but not OK to hold the father responsible for his intentional behavior, which, if done by anyone else, would be illegal. If his snooping was about assets, that is one thing. If he is involved in selling her journals to the public, for the purposes of profit and revenge, then any goodwill he has managed to accrue by lying low, will vanish. Kate's abuse, including her portable car spanked, has been documented and commented on for years. The details might be new, but that is all that was unknown. BringIng any of this to light, including the book, is IMO, not in the best interest of the kids.
Nancy...48 The picture of TFW with the spanker and the child cowering behind her that you referenced looked to me like TFW probably had spanked him and he was in time out. If you recall, at their old house, the kids spent time out in the corner where the front door and closet door were.
My opinion on the spanker is that it is the hard cardboard roll that your plastic wrap or aluminum foil come on. I took out my plastic wrap and as there is not much left on the roll, tapped myself with it to see how it felt. We saw the picture of TFW hitting (I think it was Leah) in the driveway with her open hand and she wound up before she belted her. Imagine her doing that with the spanker. That would hurt like hell.
I went to the lab today to have blood drawn and while I was waiting I noticed People magazine with TFW on the cover was there. So I decided to read it. A couple of comments. I'm glad the writer put in that a source said that while they were filming, TFW was difficult and made diva like demands. (TFW will spin it that it was Jon's fault she was a demanding diva.) I also chuckled when she said a show like The Talk would be ideal. Is she crazy? She had that opportunity back in the summer of '09 when she read for a talk show with Paula Deen. All while she was at the height of her fame and with TLC's backing and she still couldn't get a talk show. She needs to get it through her bleached out head that everyone who is anyone in the business knows that she is available and wants to be in the media. IT AIN'T HAPPENING TFW. Get over it.
Millicent...I agree with you about Jon. In TFW's eyes, Jon will never win. How sad is it that four years after your divorce when you claim to be happy and your house is peaceful, you still can't move on with regard to your ex. Deep down she is just plain miserable.
url said... 95 I didn't post #6 regarding Auntie Ann and Meagler being trolls at 12:52 a.m.. I have no idea what this nut case was trying to prove, but I will address this person and to tell them to get lost or find another name other than url, you shit stirrer. You are messing with the wrong person, you POS.
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Meh, don't lose any sleep over their comment. It was probably a sheep.
I very often troll with my log-in name. (eye roll)
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Mel and Roundabouts, and from a few days ago, Raindbowsandunicorns, FormerlyDuped, Rhymes, Tomatoes, SeeSaw and Sheri, (and again I hope I haven't missed anyone)... thank you so much for those comments. I'm glad to report DH is slowly on the mend. I read your well-wishes to him. He thanks you, too. Tucker's Mom - sorry, I meant to respond to your question the other day. We are pretty much on our own but I do take him to the hospital twice a week for physio. He calls them physio-terrorists. haha! Hopefully he will be walking again before the snow flies.
Here is a good reason(a Kate reason) for why she does not have anything delivered to the house, besides what has been mentioned> cause Kate wants people to see she is doing something and that she is busy(cause all of us, wonder what she does all day, especially when kids are in school, and she does not work) that she is important and popular and to get the paps to take pics, if around. To Kate it is a form of bragging. Oh, look what someone sent me in the mail, oh, look at how many boxes I got etc.
We all know Kate buys online, so she does not have to deal with store clerks(they are wise to her). And you all know if it does not fit or look right, you send it back. I think Kate even said in one of her blogs or interview or tweeter, she loves shopping online, cause she does not have to leave the house, except to pick up the order at UPS or Fedx. It's more of a bragging thing.
"I seriously doubt it. At this point, they are older, they are in school, and given that the past allegations have surfaced, she'd be a fool to continue this. The kids would tell...there are too many of them. Someone would find out. That's the last thing she'd want out there for public and media consumption."
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Vanessa said...(129)
"I wouldn't be too sure. There are adult victims still don't tell. When you're a hostage of dysfunction, very hard for you to tell. And children still want to protect the abusing parent"
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I agree with Vanessa in that I'm not so sure. As much as I hate to think about it, it is quite possible that it's still going on.
Why would the children think twice about it if it's been a part of their daily lives?
If she was beating them in FRONT OF PEOPLE who did absolutely nothing to stop it, why would the children think it was something they could talk about?
Weren't the twins in school while the toddlers were being filmed (and apparently beaten off camera)? Why didn't they go to their teachers and say, "Mommy hits the littles with a stick?"
We have no idea how all of this has affected the Gosselin children other than Kate's "their happy, happy squeals of delight, their YUMs! and the endless Thank You Mommys" twitter and blog updates.
There is really no telling how long it will take for the whole truth to come out. It may never.
All I can say is that IF, and I make no accusations or assumptions that it is, the abuse is still going on I pray that this whole ordeal ends with the privacy, healing and thriving of the Gosselin children.
They never asked, they didn't deserve.
Their mother should be ashamed. The fact that she's not and continues to exacerbate the situation with a lawsuit against their father while pimping them out on her twitter and website...well, that speaks volumes.
Oh, why Kate is complaining about the homework the kids have to do, cause, if the kids have lots of homework, they can't do the 52 chores, and Kate will have to do them. Poor Kate boohoo! I read a review of the kids school, and this person said that the kids school gives a lot more homework than the public school gives, and according to this person the public school give a lot.
I am thinking that those 20 cheerleaders would be Robert's inside sources. Once TFW identifies them she can sue the pants off them for violating CAs. Perhaps this is a new income stream she is hoping for. That is something that would align with her warped nature, don't you think?
What gets me is people who haven't followed the saga are reporting misinformation. Yes, Jon go wild for a while; and there were reasons for him to cut loose. He since has lead a quiet life out of the public and taking care of his children. Kate on the other hand stayed in the public and did the poor me tour followed by the bash Jon at every turn tour(s).
The general public doesn't know the background on why these two are where they are today. They only know or remember what was reported in the media. Jon is forever labeled as the bad boy who wore Ed Hardy shirts. Kate is the struggling Mom raising her 8 children by herself. Its all so wrong. Once, just once, I would like a reporter to actually do some research (remember when journalist actually fact checked) before they publish.
I think the roll TFW spanked with looked harder than the inside roll of Saran wrap etc. It looked very hard, almost like wood.It could cause a lot of damage to tender young children.
If TFW is complaining about homework now, why send them to this school? She brags it's an academic place, so what would you expect? wait until high school. Besides, the twins should be doing theirs on their own, and the 'littles' with minimal supervision. Where is the Homework Helper?
Millicent--I read your response. The problem I have is that I just don't think I, or anyone here, has enough facts to logically conclude that all parts of the story are actually true. Maybe we will find out what really happened on that I'll-fated, dark and stormy night. Or, maybe the lawsuit will go Pouf!-- just like Kate's career.
Not sure if I already said this, but I wonder if this is TFW's Hail Mary pass at separating Jon from any inheritance, retirements funds, etc. Meaning, it has finally sunk in that there is no future for her behind a microphone or in any chair on any stage. Everyone had to be telling her that this is career suicide.
AuntieAnn said... 136 Jon has been minding his own business for years, living a private mediocre life.
Yes, Jon has been minding his own business, just trying to be the best Dad he can in spite of the witch he was married to. Here is Roberts explanation of how it all went down on one rainy night. Scroll down to APRIL 8 update.
PYM> since the law suite of these John & Jane Does are said to all reside in PA, I wonder if these are ex-nannies, hired help, locals that were hire by TLC, cleaning people, anyone who worked at the house and knew what went on and anyone who signed a CA, and later talked. Talked to Robert or Jon, to confirm/witness, what is in Robert book, did happen. So, it depends on how long any of the CA, were written for> a life time or a year or 5 years, I wonder which one Kate had drawn up?
Even if Jon did participate in a tell all it's no worse than Kate trashing him so publically and letting TLC paint him as a deadbeat and cheater when she knew they had long been separated. The fact is, it was a messy divorce. But the way to hash through differences is to get some conjoint therapy or perhaps coparenting or conflict resolution guidance. Bringing all these old sores up now all the years later when you had plenty of time to address it and are just as guilty of your own poor decisions seems petty and vindictive. Which is exactly how the public reacted. People get it this time. This is what Kate doesn't get. What happened here is her vindictiveness was far worse than any alleged slight.
"I wouldn't be too sure. There are adult victims still don't tell. When you're a hostage of dysfunction, very hard for you to tell. And children still want to protect the abusing parent"
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This is something I have never talked about except to my husband or very, very close friends. I grew up in a household with 8 (count them 8) siblings. I spent my childhood being slapped, spanked and beaten with a belt on a regular basis by my mother. I had to stand in front of a mirror and recite "I am a brat, I am a brat" for at least an hour while my mother watched and smiled. The verbal abuse I endured lasts me to this day. I never spoke of what was happening in my house because I was ashamed. I'm ashamed right now just writing these words. In my adulthood, I tried to make my mother happy. I wanted her approval. I needed her approval. It took a long time for me to surrender those feelings and just live my life the way I saw was the right thing to do. When I had children, I did the opposite of what my mother did. I have two grown adult children who have made their way in this world. They are wonderful but it was a struggle for me to always think before I acted about anything where they were concerned. This shit lives with you forever and you are always ashamed. That's why children don't speak out.
Sorry for all of this, but I just had to get it off my chest. I pray for the Gosselin children. I pray that they have strength to endure what they're going through. They will not come out of this without many, many scars.
@Kateplusmy8 @The5antos @miasavin0 Ha! I gave ZERO dirty looks today.. Was I deep in thought, concentrating and happened to look his way? Most likely!
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@miasavin0 @The5antos @ashymama2 @Kateplusmy8 there was no literal bumping They made eye contact& he held the door open for her. Sorry for the confusion.
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Whatever lame excuse she gave for her rudeness -- how danged difficult is it to smile and thank someone who holds the door open for you? Apparently it's too much for TFW!
I don't think I've ever, in my life, watched a stranger open the door for someone and not heard a thank you or at least a smile and nod in their direction.
Like we've been saying, deep down she is very unhappy and swirling around in a hurricane of vindictiveness and unhappiness. It is not making her life better if she can't even so much as thank a stranger for an act of kindness.
Had she not engaged with that tweeter and gotten so defensive, and just ignored that or apologized, it likely never would have come out that this situation was even WORSE than it originally sounded. The way it was first presented, I just assumed she honestly must not have noticed the guy. It happens.
Now, because she pushed that tweeter's buttons, we now know she actually didn't even acknowledge someone doing something nice for her.
This may be just a small thing, but it's actually a perfect example of how TFW digs her own holes and falls in all by herself.
Ex Nurse said... 139 ''........Time will tell if Jon planned this info leak to RH, and is, in fact, his business partner. If he was, I just can't see how this is in the best interest of his children. If so, it will mean that Jon was trying to profit from the abuse of his children.
I don't understand why it is right to participate in revealing shocking abuse to the public about a mother, but not OK to hold the father responsible for his intentional behavior, which, if done by anyone else, would be illegal. If his snooping was about assets, that is one thing. If he is involved in selling her journals to the public, for the purposes of profit and revenge, then any goodwill he has managed to accrue by lying low, will vanish. Kate's abuse, including her portable car spanked, has been documented and commented on for years. The details might be new, but that is all that was unknown. BringIng any of this to light, including the book, is IMO, not in the best interest of the kids'' ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I was with you when you were saying ''if'' Jon was guilty of this or that, but then you went up the down staircase and suddenly started blaming Jon for actually doing what TFMJG is accusing him of doing!
I think that you and I have had the discussion before about exposing the abuse of the children not being in the best interest of the kids. Those children KNOW about the abuse...they are the ones being abused. The more the exposure of their abuse the better, in my opinion. I don't understand the concept of not exposing child abuse because it might hurt the child being abused. That makes zero sense to me.
Lalalalala at 159 I don't know how long you've been reading this blog, but MANY of us were abused children, and have spoken of the effort made as adults to deal with our childhood. Many of us have spoken of the determination to never ever treat our children the way we were treated. Like you, I had no idea what was a 'normal' way to raise my children, so in every case I would just think how my parents treated me in the situation, and I would do the opposite.
Talking about it now really does help. I was never ashamed of being abused, but was filled with confusion and resentment about why those that DID know did absolutely nothing. How could my Aunts and Uncles and teachers see the black eye, or the bruises on my arms and legs from the belt, or coat hanger or whatever they found to hit me with do nothing? Thank goodness times have changed, and people do report suspicions of abuse.
As strange as it may sound, I'm proud of the Mother/Grandmother and GreatGrandmother I now am, due to my memory of abuse and my determination to not abuse as I was.
Thank you for having the courage to tell your story of childhood abuse. You're right; abuse lives with you forever, it effects your whole life and it's why many never speak out even in adulthood.
I know it was a struggle but you're to be commended for surviving your abuse, for being a strong woman breaking the cycle of abuse, and for raising 2 children in a loving, healthy household. Be proud of yourself! You deserve it. {{{{HUGS}}}}
I don't think I've ever, in my life, watched a stranger open the door for someone and not heard a thank you or at least a smile and nod in their direction.
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I saw it today. A woman opened a door for a middle-age man, nicely dressed gentleman...looked like a business professional. He just walked right right into the store, didn't acknowledge her. She said to him, "You're welcome." We both laughed.
White Organza, I am so JELLUS of you! No dirty looks! Did you get any thank you'd? I will be extra jellus if you got thank yous! August 29, 2013 at 5:37 PM
Yes, Joy. Not to rub it in, but I did have people literally dancing on tiptoes around me, singing my praises and giving me tens! #superhappygraythursdayafternoonatwork
I wouldn't be too sure. There are adult victims still don't tell. When you're a hostage of dysfunction, very hard for you to tell. And children still want to protect the abusing parent
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They may still want to protect them, but with eight kids, it would be truly amazing if it didn't slip out somewhere, sometime, either at school with teachers, or at a sleepover with friends. A child tells another child in secret; that child tells his parents, and it's out.
Thank you to all of you who have been willing to share your hurtful stories with us here. It shows a level of trust in a community.
Re: the dirty look to the gentleman holding the door. Clearly he did not bow as she passed through. He did not fully appreciate her "regalishness". Bad on him.
I wanted to make a comment about the untrue stories. Although they did throw that wording in there, I don't see them making any claim for libel or defamation or slander. Their claims are limited to the wiretapping and so on. So unless they're going to go the defamation route, I'm not sure how relevant it is going to be to prove that the information is true. Unless perhaps you are making some kind of First Amendment freedom of information argument, which is possible but not probable.
In terms of wiretapping and theft and so on, it's neither here nor there whether the abuse and whatnot is true, TO THIS PARTICULAR allegations. (For defamation, it's 100% relevant) I don't see that as an element to prove any of those allegations ALLEGED.In fact by admitting something was stolen that seems to sort of imply it's true in the first place. If the stories were all false, why bother stealing anything. Just make it up!
976 sediments (sic) from readers:
«Oldest ‹Older 801 – 976 of 976 Newer› Newest»Well it looks like we can now email Robert encouragement! And thank him for exposing a child and animal abuser.
No its a holder for her witchy wand....
...lol... no its the holder for when she pulls the stick out...ha ha ha...
...lol... no its the holder for when she pulls the stick out...ha ha ha...
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She's gonna need a bigger holder.
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Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 188
The dirty looks tally! Little hash marks lined up by date. I have a little notebook in my back pocket where I can keep track of mine in case anyone ever accuses me of such a terrible thing.
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Is there an app for that?
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Well, I went to bed to read a very interesting book about the beginning of the Revolutionary War, but got up for a drink of water and found yet another funny comment! Everyone is in great form. Good night now, for real.
Looks like Meagler or Auntie Anne could be the 'nighttime troll'! LOL Just kidding. ;)
So according to here...TFW is losing. She put herself and the kids on the cover of a slack ass magazine..To try to get her name out there.
TFW got the cover ....but...no one cares. TFW was hoping to get people to take her side. Get attention while she sues her X. Jon has been gone for a long time. The kid's love being with Jon....no pressure...nothing.
TFW beats the kids into submission....Tell them how you miss filming.That you would be nothing without it.
Really TFW...we all know the kids hate to be with you.
I beat the kids b/c....fill in the blank....
The kids giggle and laugh at?
Kate Gosselin....You ARE a child and animal abuser!!!!
PLS BV call me out. kate gosselin is a Child and Animal Abuser!
Boyson, a federal court can exercise jurisdiction over state law claims if there are also federal claims in the complaint. You don't have to file your state and federal claims in separate courts.
So TFW get's a spot in a magazine. She's hoping it will force people to remember who she is. She is the wrangler of 8 count them 8!! Kids,
Now OMG!!!! After 4 years her ex Jon made her fail in reality tv. TFW is trying to sue b/c she has nothing...no income...nothing! She thought if she got her name out there again to remind everyone of who she is....the public would take her side on this newest lawsuit.
Well sorry honey...the public hates YOU but will be there to protect the kids you haven't thought twice about.
All this newest lawsuit has brought about? RH's book which proves you are a Child and Animal abuser. You don't deny what he is saying.You are whining b/c someone outed you with you'r own words.
I dont care who and how someone OUTS a Child abuser. The truth is out there now..keep going TFW....you are digging ur own grave.
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I put pebbles in my shoe. If I can walk when I get home I know I was charming today.
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So funny. Thanks for the laugh.
Also count me in as glad that Auntie Anne is back. I have missed your comments and sense of humor. I hope your husband's recovery is progressing well.
AuntieAnn... sorry I spelled your name wrong earlier.
Ha! I gave ZERO dirty looks today.. Was I deep in thought, concentrating and happened to look his way? Most likely!
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What in the world? Always with an excuse. ALWAYS
Soooooooooo noone bought the bus stop video?
Kim Weiss
51 minutes ago near Ocean Ridge, FL ·
@Kimmerieweiss This week's theme: herding cats. I meant that literally and figuratively (she said as kittens intermittently swatted then swirled around her ankles). You figure out the "figuratively."
Is there an app for that?
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Bwahahaha . . .
Marie
Haha . . . Saw that Gosselinbook has pictures of Kate with her "spanker". Have a suggestion for all of the sheeple who like to watch TFW on Netflix, playing "Find the Spanker" while watching will make the show much more interesting. Kind of like playing "What does not belong in these pictures."
Marie
I remember seeing the footage of Kate carrying around that roll in her hand. The editing elves either didn't catch that one or thought no one would pick up on it.
It's a hard roll being carried around why? Please, sheep, come up with one plausible explanation of why a hard roll is wielded in Kate's hand in a scene where the kids are acting up and being disciplined?
And why does anyone store a large spoon in the car door? Maps? sure. Big a big mixing spoon? Unless Kate has an emergency supply of Kool Aid she just has to stir while in the car, there is no reason other than to happy up the children, which is to say, strike them with the object.
Kate's own words tell of her penchant for corporal punishment AND her not ONE, but her SUPPLY of spare "spankers" she keeps handy to enforce discipline.
Jon might not have money, but he has so much less to hide. His exploits have been made public. Sex, possibly drugs, alcohol, rubbing elbows with scumbags, moving to NYC etc...
A scathing book about him has been here and gone. No one sued over it. It's not even a blip on the radar. Yet, despite the tabloids and book, Jon has managed to slowly repair his image simply by retreating from the public eye and focusing on his kids.
Kate, on the other hand, is hoping that strong arm tactics will silence her critics and evidence that will reveal the fraud she perpetrated on her fans and the general public for years.
She's got a lot more to lose and I think, from his most recent interview, that Jon knows this.
Seriously, Kate won't give out her tomato salad recipe to a tweetie and told her to buy the book?
The recipe is out there already, dear sheeple, and here it is:
Tomato-Onion Salad Recipe
1/4 cup extra virgin olive oil
1 1/2 tablespoons balsamic vinegar
1/2 teaspoon salt
1/4 teaspoon sugar
1/4 teaspoon pepper
4 large tomatoes, thinly sliced
1 medium-size sweet onion, thinly sliced
1/4 cup chopped fresh basil
Put together the first 5 ingredients in a large bowl. Arrange tomato and onions slices in rows in a serving dish. Sprinkle with chopped basil, and drizzle evenly with marinade. Cover it and let it stand at room temperature for at least 2 hours.
The vinaigrette proportions are way off and you'll probably want to whisk the salad dressing before you dress the veggies, oh and you might want to toss the veggies with the dressing...
(sorry, the incomplete instructions drive me nuts)
Tweet-le said
"There have been so many amusing comments here lately. Wish I'd saved them all. "
Like this one?
Rebecca Bottoms @jesusbarbie91 1h
@Kateplusmy8 Do u add sugar to your coffee?
And this is important...why?
Omg, those photos make me sick. What sort of COLD-HEARTED BITCH walks around w/ a weapon by her side in anticipation of beating her small children? WHAT A MONSTER!
A good mother would teach conflict resolution skills, but of course she would be incapable of that seeing as she has none, herself.
One of the more vocal, blogging sheeple made the comments below this morning. While I doubt it's realistic to expect Twitter to turn over this information, or to think that Razzmatazz would spend time and $$ going after it, don't the sheeple realize that Jon's attorneys could do the same? I remember quite a few death threats against Jon and some of the non-fans. They're all on record.
realziggyflo
@parker_scarlett @Kateplusmy8 It's reasonable to expect that IP's from twitter will be subpoenaed. From there ISP's will likely be 1/2
realziggyflo
@parker_scarlett @Kateplusmy8 2/2 subpoenaed for real names. From there likely all IP's assigned to to specific real ID's will be obtained.
It's a hard roll being carried around why? Please, sheep, come up with one plausible explanation of why a hard roll is wielded in Kate's hand in a scene where the kids are acting up and being disciplined?
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To keep Jon in line?
Soooooooooo noone bought the bus stop video?
Why would Peter want a bus stop video? ;)
Isn't it no one?
A good mother would teach conflict resolution skills, but of course she would be incapable of that seeing as she has none, herself.
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Someone linked to the Dutch Wonderland episode yesterday, so I watched the segment and Jon really impressed me.
The kids were melting down.. a couple in particular. Jon seemed very aware of his surroundings and addressed the misbehavior with each child by pulling them to the side, getting *down to their level* and talking to them to calm them down and restore order.
He seemed to address them as individuals and with love, even though it must have been incredibly trying day. A logistical nightmare!
And Jon carrying each of the tups all the way up those darn stairs of the slide ride was really sweet and touching.
I'm sorry, I have no idea why my comment put a link to the word photos.
Where are the photos of TFW with the Spanker & updates? I have
http://gosselinbook.blogspot.com/ bookmarked but nothing new is on it. Is there another link?
Thanks!
Tucker's Mom said... 18
Bad tucker mom's now you give the sheep the recipe for salad.
The sheep no longer has to wait in anticipating for her lame cook/photo book to come out.
Well at least the sheep can have her salad -)
It's reasonable to expect that IP's from twitter will be subpoenaed. From there ISP's will likely be 1/2
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Why? Do they understand this lawsuit has absolutely nothing to do with Twitter, the haters, the fans, or anything but some petty little incident where Jon may or may not have gathered personal property that very likely he had every right to?
The lawsuit defending the FANS' rights that was promised is completely nonexistent at this point.
LOL I love how passive aggressive Kim Weiss is.
Where are the photos of TFW with the Spanker & updates? I have
http://gosselinbook.blogspot.com/ bookmarked but nothing new is on it. Is there another link?
Thanks!
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It's on his other website:
http://gosselinbook.com/
Did Kate never learn that if you keep poking a stick at a rattlesnake sooner or later that snake is going to bite. Robert warned her with very loud hisses that if she kept poking he would strike. That's exactly what he is doing now.
Omg, those photos make me sick. What sort of COLD-HEARTED BITCH walks around w/ a weapon by her side in anticipation of beating her small children? WHAT A MONSTER!
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Even the most heinous of child abusers have to go retrieve their weapon to beat the children when they want to. She all but made herself a holder on her belt for the thing. So sad.
Can you imagine as a little child walking around the playroom or kitchen just trying to do normal things and every time you look at your mother you see that weapon by her side ready to beat you again should you step out of line? Like a prison guard and his club.
Why? Do they understand this lawsuit has absolutely nothing to do with Twitter, the haters, the fans, or anything but some petty little incident where Jon may or may not have gathered personal property that very likely he had every right to?
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This all has more to do with how much more the fans hate the "haters" than they love Kate. They're hoping for something drastic to be leveled on those who don't like Kate and her abusive ways.
Did Kate never learn that if you keep poking a stick at a rattlesnake sooner or later that snake is going to bite.
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Exactly. I for one never, ever, ever notice that WEAPON she is carrying around. Thanks to Robert now I know. More proof she BEAT HER BABIES. Thank you Robert.
What in the world? Always with an excuse. ALWAYS
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Marie said... 16
Haha . . . Saw that Gosselinbook has pictures of Kate with her "spanker". Have a suggestion for all of the sheeple who like to watch TFW on Netflix, playing "Find the Spanker" while watching will make the show much more interesting.
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Ha, Marie! Good suggestion. It's kind of like finding hidden Mickeys in Disney World!
I almost think at this point she needs to own up to it. Make a public statement that yes a long time ago she did use physical discipline on her children, although she denies ever doing anything illegal. There is no excuse for it and she deeply regrets it. She has since taken steps to learn better non-physical techniques to parent her child, including therapy and intensive parenting classes, and would urge all parents who are feeling frustrated and helpless to do the same.
@sandykjohnson: Who protects child actors like the kids in @Kateplusmy8? Not the feds. #Stateline #LaborDay
http://ow.ly/onz3b
Interesting article at the link. The kids look really happy in the picture.
Tweet-le:
Thanks! I remember seeing that roll on the show and wondered what it was for...briefly thought, no, can't be to spank them?? How duped I was !
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 29
LOL I love how passive aggressive Kim Weiss is.
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Oh, Kim, it's like trying to explain gravity to a chicken.
Ha! Mili is pulling a Kate... on Kate!
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 12h
Well, I had something kind of surprising that happened yesterday 2share....
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Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 1h
@MiloandJack yes?
Katie, dear, you're just going to have to wait for the book to come out!!!
Pay no attention to that sheeple talking about IPs. She is Twitter's resident Rainman.
"Uh oh, fifteen minutes to Judge Wapner. Wapner at 4:00"
Ha! I gave ZERO dirty looks today.. Was I deep in thought, concentrating and happened to look his way? Most likely!
I know! She was deep in thought creating her newest masterpiece recipe. You know, which 5 cans should she throw together this time.
Marie - love your idea! We should have a contest to see who has the most findings.
AuntieAnn - I can't tell you how much you have been missed. I soooo love your sense of humor.
Glad to have you back! Hope your spouse is doing better. (You, too!)
From Rainman, Raymond is on institution time:
Raymond: Definitely watch TV but you have to be in bed at eleven. Lights out at eleven.
Charlie: Forget it.
Raymond: Uh oh, nineteen minutes to eleven
Tweet I agree. It's about the fight between the fans and nonfans for some of them. How silly. And OLD. Kate's not going to help them with that, she's made that much clear. She is laser focused on Jon. This whole complaint mostly talks about Jon. I kept wondering how exactly Robert fit into it, other than slapping his name on the header. Wasn't he the one to write the book? LOL. Don't you have a stronger case for a "stranger" taking your things as opposed to your own husband? Instead the complaint blabs on and on about everything JON did. Where's Robert??
It just solidified my opinion she is absolutely 100% obsessed with bringing down Jon. Anyone else is an afterthought. Robert, non-fans, whatever, it's all about Jon.
If you look in the middle photo that Robert posted it looks like one of the kids is facing the wall and she is walking away with whatever she is holding in her hand
This woman is despicable :(
Ha! I gave ZERO dirty looks today.. Was I deep in thought, concentrating and happened to look his way? Most likely!
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What's so funny about that is Kate doesn't have the brain power to be in "deep thought" about anything. However, she could have been ruminating over all the hate she feels for Jon. That's something more believable. Guess she couldn't tweet that though.
I have never known anyone who didn't own some kind of at home Etsy shop or something who spends so much time at the UPS store.
What is she shipping and receiving all the time?? Is she running some sort of side business behind everyone's back?
Off the subject-
I watched an old favorite on DVD the other day. It was The Mask with Jim Carey. The part where Mr Carey holds up a trophy and says They love me, they really love me" . I could picture TFW in the privacy of her home in front of the mirror, holding a fake trophy. And with the same overly white veneered teeth reciting the same lines!
Or she would say " You will love me or I will sue". HA
With her obession with celebrity life, I wouldn't put it past her.
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I almost think at this point she needs to own up to it. Make a public statement that yes a long time ago she did use physical discipline on her children,
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She would've to admit that Jon did nothing wrong if she did.
She would've to admit that what she did to her children was wrong and apologize.
She'd have to admit she's not the great mother her fans thinks she is.
I don't see none of these happening. Cause to her she's all ways right and can do no wrong in her mind.
The vinaigrette proportions are way off and you'll probably want to whisk the salad dressing before you dress the veggies,
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Yes, she never says to whisk or stir. Am I correct then that it's not really a vinaigrette at all? I thought a vinaigrette had, at its very basic level, vinegar, to which as you whisk or briskly stir, you add olive oil. That's when you get that wonderfully frothy light colored "vinaigrette" that thickens the more you stir. Seal with lemon juice.
If you don't do that to make this unique mixture, all you would have is olive oil with little unslightly black vinegar spots floating in it.
It is chemistry, I thought.
And if you're not going to even so much as give it a little stir, what was the point of putting the liquids into a separate dish? Why not just dump them one at a time directly onto the tomatoes and save yourself dirtying a dish.
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Why? Do they understand this lawsuit has absolutely nothing to do with Twitter, the haters,
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Cause they probably believe that KK is hated cause of Jon and if.
She sue Jon then she suing the haters as well.
I wouldn't try to figure of the sheep you might get a headache if you try.
What is she shipping and receiving all the time?? Is she running some sort of side business behind everyone's back?
Maybe she sells her freebies or all that free lute from TLC on eBay?
I can't see it happening either Chef, however from a PR standpoint it may be her only option if she ever wants to truly recover.
She needs to put herself in a position of being remorseful and contrite. Once she has locked herself into that position, if she continues to be attacked it will start looking like a piling on and the mood will change just like it did with Paula Deen, from we've got to get her and show her, to, okay enough already.
But because she keeps staring Robert down stubbornly just daring him to do it, she hasn't been able to get any sympathy and no one has even breathed mention that this is a piling on. She has got to rearrange the cards here so that can happen. She won't, but it's what she should do if she had good PR.
According to the lawsuit, John and Jane Doe 1-20 cheered on Jon and Robert and assisted in wiretapping and ID theft. Not only doesn't this involve Twitter haters, like Admin said, it doesn't even involve Robert. Maybe the sheep will understand that after they understand the difference between a lawsuit and criminal prosecution. But don't hold your breath.
I can definitely see her having an ebay account with a random name you can't identify as her where she throws all their mountains of old freebies on there and watches them sell.
That may be part of the "work" she does all day.
From Rainman, Raymond is on institution time:
Raymond: Definitely watch TV but you have to be in bed at eleven. Lights out at eleven.
Charlie: Forget it.
Raymond: Uh oh, nineteen minutes to eleven
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OMG! Brilliant!
Robert needs a link at the top of his blog to his website. When you google Gosselin Book ypu get the blog link first. It is a bit harder to find the website which is what he wants everyone to see!
It must be very painful for Kate that no one seems to be interested in her bus stop pictures/video. I'm sure she woke up early, shined up her jugs, put on her new pumps with her daisy dukes with the built in spander holder -- and NO ONE published the photos? HELLO!!! PAY ATTENTION!!! Else, I shall pull out my Spanker!!
Marie
If I'm not mistaken, Kate wasn't even ON twitter when all this went down.
I thought she joined twitter in 2011, correct?
No one even had the foggiest idea this was even happening to cheer anything on. How absurd. No one even knew Robert had ANY significance to this whatsoever except that guy that drove Jon home after he dropped off his screaming and crying children begging him, Daddy don't go! We were all confused when this guy came out of nowhere with this book, no one had a clue.
Can the sheeple file a class action suit against Jon for damages because they have been deprived of seeing and knowing every detail of his children's lives? And reducing them to stupid interactions on Twitter when they could have been watching TFW on their teevees?
Maybe her scathingly brilliant plan all along is to get this lawsuit on Judge Wapner!
Yes, she never says to whisk or stir. Am I correct then that it's not really a vinaigrette at all? I thought a vinaigrette had, at its very basic level, vinegar, to which as you whisk or briskly stir, you add olive oil.
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Correctomundo!
That's the correct method and this will be an oil slick.
You can make a vinaigrette with just oil and acid, but it will separate. That's OK, just expect to keep whisking or stirring it.
Vinaigrettes are stabilized by emulsifiers, generally mustard or egg yolk. Other stabilizers are added in commercial preparations.
So she wrote a cookbook but doesn't even know what a vinaigrette is.
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I can't see it happening either Chef, however from a PR standpoint it may be her only option if she ever wants to truly recover.
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She could try at least but here's the problem people are tired of her being fake and lying.
I mean she just came out with people saying how she changed for. And then a week later she's suing Jon of tons of $$.
And now she's back on twitter with "I'm so happy" BS.
And once again a twitter person say on mean she was to her father.
And KK's response was well maybe but it's not my fault.
It's hard to forgive someone who's trying to out smart you.
I don't think she should say she's changed, no one believes that for sure. I think she should say she is getting HELP. That's a difference. It's hard to be mad at someone who is trying to get help, especially when you can probably easily verify that they are in fact getting help.
Right Admin, no one knew a thing about Robert until he started sending his cryptic tweets about the book. We didn't learn his name until just before the book was released. And obviously no one knew the story of Jon hacking Kate's emails until after the story broke, 18 months before Kate had Twitter. To suggest this has anything to do with Twitter is idiotic. #SheepleLogic
You would think the word VINAIGRETTE is hint enough that there's VINEGAR in it
And as I recall, a lot of us, myself included, really blasted Robert when he first came on the scene. We thought he was teasing and taunting too much and a number of us didn't even really believe he had much of anything important to say in that book or he would have released it already.
I remember when Robert sent me a copy of the book a few days before it was released to review for the blog, he said I had been very hard on him. Though he seemed to understand it and didn't seem upset.
No takers on the bus stop. It may be because the interest is not there, but I wonder if it's actually because a normal person feels a little uncomfortable plastering the kids everywhere on a story like this. I think almost everyone recognizes how bad this is for the kids. This isn't the usual Kate pumps gas story. This is serious. I don't think any news organization wants to be accused of dragging the kids into it. Hence, not touching those pics/video with a 10 foot pole.
Someone made a video of Kate and kids at the bus stop? Who? I missed that conversation.
I am so happy that TFW's attorneys are demanding a jury trial. As someone who lives in a county near TFW, I can tell you that no one feels sorry for her and her fake crocodile tears are not going to play well for a jury. I think she would be better off with just a judge. Can you image a jury with working mothers listening to her poor me routine? I would love to be on that jury.
Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said... 73
Someone made a video of Kate and kids at the bus stop? Who? I missed that conversation.
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I want to know to.
A lot of people thought @gosselinbook on Twitter was Walt. He wasn't taken seriously because he didn't give indication that he had the goods at the time and we've been lead down the primrose path before on Twitter.
I watched an old favorite on DVD the other day. It was The Mask with Jim Carey. The part where Mr Carey holds up a trophy and says They love me, they really love me" . I could picture TFW in the privacy of her home in front of the mirror, holding a fake trophy.
Sorry, here's the link to the vid
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3TKK6d3-h2U&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D3TKK6d3-h2U
Adrienne Evers @adrienneevers 30m
@Kateplusmy8 Hi Kate would LOVE to see some photos of the mini Gosselin's school lunches! Keep up the supermom work! x
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The fans often leave me speechless.
What is she shipping and receiving all the time?? Is she running some sort of side business behind everyone's back?
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She probably shops online for kids clothing, shoes, school supplies, etc., and for course her Bella Bars, Wantables, etc., would all be delivered that way.
Swimgirl, TFW demanding a jury trial surprised me, too, especially in eastern PA. I would have thought that would be Jon's response. Where I live, you have to pay extra to demand a jury trial. She should have let that be Jon's burden, but I'm glad she didn't.
Pay no attention to that sheeple talking about IPs. She is Twitter's resident Rainman.
"Uh oh, fifteen minutes to Judge Wapner. Wapner at 4:00"
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Does she buy her boxers at KMart?
Online shopping can all be run straight out of your front door. What's the deal with not having packages come to the door? Can't the UPS guy just be let in?
It's a huge waste of gas all the time, if we're going to talk about saving money. And defeats the purpose of online shopping where the whole point is to do it from your home.
Others have said asking for a jury trial is standard language. In some jurisdictions you may have to ask for it upfront or you've waived the right to ask. That said, it kind of shows the level of delusion here. She really thinks, if I can just get 12 people (or nine, or whatever it will be) down and explain things, they will understand and vote for me.
Adrienne Evers @adrienneevers 40m
@Kateplusmy8 Hi Kate would LOVE to see some photos of the mini Gosselin's school lunches! Keep up the supermom work! x
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It's bad enough that the fans want pictures showing all aspects of the kids' lives. Now they want to exploit those poor lunches, too! Doesn't a sandwich, a crunchy thing and a frozen cookie deserve some privacy?
Rainbow - why not have them delivered directly to the house?
It's a huge waste of gas all the time, if we're going to talk about saving money. And defeats the purpose of online shopping where the whole point is to do it from your home.
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Maybe she doesn't want to go to the stores...you know, so darn many paps, creating a media frenzy, whatever. In her mind, she's still relevant.
You really think she'd let a UPS man in her gate?
What was the point of BV outing those comments? I can barely read or make sense of them and overall they prove nothing. The sheeple are in a frenzy. Is he just playing to them? Why would he do that?
Pay no attention to that sheeple talking about IPs. She is Twitter's resident Rainman.
"Uh oh, fifteen minutes to Judge Wapner. Wapner at 4:00"
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Somehow that wouldn't surprise me.
msgoody2shoes21
@Kateplusmy8 @RebeccaPearson5 Have you thought about high schools for the twins yet?. I know you have 2 years to go but time flies.
What does this mean? Does she think that Kate is going to take them out of their current school and put them into a public high school? Has that even been discussed?
Why would her vinaigrette recipe specify a LARGE bowl for 1/4 cup oil and a couple spoonfuls of vinegar?
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http://ow.ly/onz3b
Interesting article at the link. The kids look really happy in the picture.
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The photo they used in this article is eerily like the book cover that Robert Hoffman is now using...a "queen" surrounded by her "pawns"....I couldn't help but notice the similarities....
What's the deal with not having packages come to the door? Can't the UPS guy just be let in?
It's a huge waste of gas all the time, if we're going to talk about saving money. And defeats the purpose of online shopping where the whole point is to do it from your home.
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This is what I don't get. Is it to keep her address from getting out? Is it because she has a gate? It's weird.
I'm not sure if anyone commented about this, but a new company was featured on yesterday's GMA. It was started by 2 moms that are selling a lunchable type of product, using preservative free and low salt ingredients. Personally, I think that the packaging is xcessive and wasteful, but, it has been picked up by major national stores and is sold next to lunch able. Another missed opportunity for TFW.
The women who started it were just mediocre folks, who invested in their idea.
If you look at that first picture, she has one kid by the arm and whatever that is in the other hand.
I feel sorry for those kids. My mom was mentally, verbally and physically abusive and it changes you inside. I hope she gets help, for her own sake as much as the kids' sake.
I didn't post #6 regarding Auntie Ann and Meagler being trolls at 12:52 a.m.. I have no idea what this nut case was trying to prove, but I will address this person and to tell them to get lost or find another name other than url, you shit stirrer. You are messing with the wrong person, you POS.
I think she would be better off with just a judge. Can you image a jury with working mothers listening to her poor me routine? I would love to be on that jury.
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I'm not so sure a bench trial would be the way to go. Judges in that district are no nonsense. Might serve her better for a jury trial, in hopes that she gets jury members who are moms and sympathize with her plight of being a struggling single parent of eight kids with that old "ex from hell" hounding her.
Nancy said...(48)
"If you look in the middle photo that Robert posted it looks like one of the kids is facing the wall and she is walking away with whatever she is holding in her hand
This woman is despicable :("
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I saw that too Nancy and it made me want to vomit and cry at the same time. The first photo where she has the toddler gripped by the arm and the "spanker" in the other hand is equally disturbing.
They were just babies...BABIES!
I don't know Admin, I get what you're saying about Kate needing to be apologetic and contrite. She needs to own her actions and cop to her behaviour instead of farting rainbows and sunshine.
I doubt though that it would do any good as far as her public image goes. She's cooked.
That being said, getting help and putting in a real effort to live a more authentic and genuine life with her kids as her real priority would go a long way to healing 8 little hearts.
I just don't believe Kate has it in her. She's got stars in her eyes and sees nothing else but her own need for fame and adulation.
Those poor kids.
In the pictures with the "spanker" she is holding a child's arm with her right hand and the spanker is in her left hand. It appears that she is spanking the child. In the middle picture it appears as though a small boy is facing the wall standing up and she is walking away, then in the last picture she is sitting with the weapon of choice right next to her. I wonder who took these blurry pictures. hmmmm
Complete speculation here: I am getting the feeling that Razzle dazzle, Bv best bud, has never seen an episode of a program with TFMJG in it. has never read any of her books. Has never read Roberts book. Has farmed out actual work on preparing the complaint to an assistant of some kind. Has taken TFMJG statements as the entire truth, and not just as the truth as she sees it. Also has not consulted with Laverne and Shirley to find out exactly how TFMJG is as a client.
Completely fell for the pr that TFMJG was a huge draw on cable, when the ten million viewer figure so often mentioned was for the divorce announcement train wreck episode!
It would be interesting to be a fly on the wall of the Razzle Dazzle office now and in the coming months, when the realization that this situation is not what was presented to him before signing on.
Maybe the reason she won't say she has beaten her children is because she hasn't stopped?? That would open a whole can of worms!
I thought TFW had a UPS box or whatever to handle all the 'fan' parcels they used to get and they would periodically pick them up. I remember one episode where Aaden accompanied Jon on errands and he has so much cardboard from packages to recycle.I figured TFW continues to use the box for all her grifts as well as items she ordered. She probably still gets a lot of stuff from sheeple.Also a pap opportunity for her- then.
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It's like switching to skim milk. It tastes like water at first and you want to forget that change. But if you stick with it, it tastes fine eventually and then the milk you used to drink tastes gross.
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good point. When I switched, it went down one grade at a time. From whole milk to 2%, then 1% and then to skim. It made the transition easier. And now whole milk is just too rich to drink, although I do like 1% or 2% with my cereal.
No takers on the bus stop. It may be because the interest is not there, but I wonder if it's actually because a normal person feels a little uncomfortable plastering the kids everywhere on a story like this. I think almost everyone recognizes how bad this is for the kids. This isn't the usual Kate pumps gas story. This is serious. I don't think any news organization wants to be accused of dragging the kids into it. Hence, not touching those pics/video with a 10 foot pole.
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Good theory Admin, but I'm not buying it. They're not looking out for the kids, they're looking out for themselves. Although I'm thrilled mainstream media has finally FINALLY not given her a free pass, using the words ABUSE, SPANKER, WOODEN SPOON... laughing AT her, they are just following orders from the powers that be. Just like they demonized Jon, only to make sure their Queen kept the $ rolling or to protect their assets, now they want to be as disassociated with her as possible. The pap pic at the bus stop would be out there if "they" (not sure who they are lol, but I think Oprah's behind it)wanted it to be. They all of a sudden have morals and recognize how bad this is for the kids?? nah, not buying it. There are other reasons why it didn't make it to the tabloids and it has nothing to do with protecting the kids. They're hanging her out to dry, the same way they did to Jon.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 2h
@undercovermumma Well...seems I have found where me awesome gal went! Undercover LITERALLY....did U wish 2b found? :) I followed.
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Man, that is out and out creepy. "she" basically admits to stalking this person, finding out their new user name somehow. "I followed." Yikes.
If a friend of mine, someone I followed on Twitter, changed their twitter user name and didn't tell me -- I would respect their wishes and leave them the heck alone!
Rainbow - why not have them delivered directly to the house?
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The gate. What if she's away on the day (days) those things are expected for delivery? I seriously doubt that she's going to sit home waiting all day for UPS to show up, and she's not going to give them free access to the gate to drop the packages off on her porch.
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She may have a heck of a time proving damages beyond anything but the fair market value of the electronics, and even then there's a fair argument Jon had every right to take those, both because it was martial property and because it was by the side of the road.
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And even if she was awarded damages for the value of the computer, seems like that should be divided in half, since they were still married and that computer was "theirs," not "mine all mine." So one used computer, let's say it was only one year old, purchased for $1,500. Estimated value at time of loss = $900, less 50% that belonged to Jon anyway = $450. Would be hilarious if the the final ruling was for defendant to reimburse plaintiff $450 for the computer valuation.
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msgoody2shoes21
@Kateplusmy8 @RebeccaPearson5 Have you thought about high schools for the twins yet?. I know you have 2 years to go but time flies.
What does this mean? Does she think that Kate is going to take them out of their current school and put them into a public high school? Has that even been discussed?
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Since she's so obsessed with Jon, I doubt she's aware their private school goes through Grade 12.
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What's the deal with not having packages come to the door? Can't the UPS guy just be let in?
It's a huge waste of gas all the time, if we're going to talk about saving money. And defeats the purpose of online shopping where the whole point is to do it from your home.
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This is what I don't get. Is it to keep her address from getting out? Is it because she has a gate? It's weird.
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IIRC, she didn't have a mailbox because it would have been located on the street, outside the gate and she also didn't want to have to open the gate because it might be one of the smelly sheep, rather than the ups person. And so she got a pobox at the local ups store.
When I saw the picture of Kate and her whacking rod all I could think of was the Pearls. they wrote a controversial book, to train up a child. It encourages use of a plumbing rod or like object and the use of wooden spoons on small children, in fact the book encourages spanking, and hitting with the rod almost from birth. The Duggars have endorsed this book (and Michelle has never straight forward answered, do you spank the kids, she gives a roundabout answers about more praise then punishment, or about lifelong training of a child).
The Pearls seem to have their following from certain Christian groups so I didn't know if back then when Kate was on the love offerings stage of her life, she might have gotten a copy of the book or had even known about it from her father being a Pastor.
I have follow Kate on and off over the years and I'm glad your site is here and that she is off the air, well the weekly show. As much as I think Kate is a monster at least her kids will get some choices in life someday. At 18 an see Kate booting them out the door if they are not making her money or cleaning her house. The Duggar kids will never fully get their freedom and the abuse IMO is worse because it is physical and emotional. What bothers me more is that the Duggars still air and thee are many people who watch the show that want to be like the Duggars so much they are buying books like the Pearls and implementing physical abuse with a plumbing rod on a baby because the Duggars approved. I think Kate is vile, but I doubt too many people who see her wooden spoon or rod will run out and copy her actions (most are upset seeing it).
PJ - I am so sorry to hear about the way your mother treated you. Mere words cannot express how much I wish it were otherwise, for every single person. Our parents are supposed to love and protect us.
It's bad enough that the fans want pictures showing all aspects of the kids' lives. Now they want to exploit those poor lunches, too! Doesn't a sandwich, a crunchy thing and a frozen cookie deserve some privacy?
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Literally laughed out loud! Perhaps we should start a new blog about how the rights of Gosselin food need to be respected!
If you look at that first picture, she has one kid by the arm and whatever that is in the other hand.
Judging from the muscle tenseness in her arms, it looks like she's pushing back on the little boy to avoid him crushing the girl who's in front of him.
Can't have one of those icky boys touching the girl, or her.
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Other gripes involved the new bread, which students don’t want to eat because it’s brown wheat bread, and the new milk, which is skim or one percent fat, not two percent or whole. The cafeteria’s chocolate- and strawberry-flavored milk offerings are now nonfat.
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Wheat bread is definitely better than white bread and contains more nutrients. I'd have to actually see the bread provided, because many wheat breads are quite delicious. As to the milk choices, I'm not sure. My child is approaching age 16. He's always been skinny. His metabolism burns at a high rate. So he gets whole milk, because he needs those calories.
I still pack a lunch for my son because he doesn't like cafeteria food. If I were a parent on the lunch program, I think I might pack some extra choices for my child, to supplement the lunch program. Some pretzels, a bagel w/cream cheese, half a sandwich, whatever.
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The federal school lunch program is for families who meet the poverty threshold. Packing extra choices often is not an option, which is why the child is receiving the free meal to begin with.
I'm glad that they have changed the food served. If the food tastes like crap, then they need to teach people how to cook it properly. Healthy and unappetizing are not synonymous.
To whoever asked about the TFW video of paps at the bus stop yesterday....
http://tinyurl.com/pjp7wl7
Here's an explanation of that news service. Sounds like they take videos/stories from freelancers. If the story is posted, the freelancer gets paid.
http://ijnet.org/stories/newspusher-seeks-video-submissions-freelancers
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You can see it even edited if you pay close attention:
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Thanks for posting that, BS. The future therapists for the kids will have plenty of evidence, for sure.
One of the other things that is disturbing is that whenever a kid (including Jon!) fails to follow along, Kate starts narrating for the camera, instead of dealing with the problem. It is military rule, no dissent allowed, ever. No individual preferences, ever. No choices, ever. ANd except when jOn took the time to take the "offender" AWAY from the camera, Their we're unbelievably close up shots of their sad or angry little faces.
Also, Jon and TFW were, although stressed, affectionate and obviously very close. How sad that their kids will have a chronicle of the implosion of what, while certainly imperfect, was a loving relationship.
Let's throw tomatoes said...(100)
"Maybe the reason she won't say she has beaten her children is because she hasn't stopped?? That would open a whole can of worms!"
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Actually Tomatoes, I didn't have the stomach to think about that but you make an excellent point.
The reality is most abusers, unless they get help, don't generally stop of their own volition. Physical abuse is in and of itself a coping mechanism and usually the go to response when the abuser is stressed.
We saw for years on the show that Kate doesn't have any coping skills when she's stressed out. She yells, she lashes out, she's irrational and she's terribly inconsistent.
The thing is, if she was willing to do that to her babies in front of a houseful of volunteers and production crew, she obviously doesn't really see anything wrong with it.
The only reason she likely cared at all about it not getting out that this is her discipline of choice is because the public (you know, us mediocre yahoos) would have been up in arms and stopped watching the show much sooner.
She got what, 5 years?, of being the Queen of Reality TV...she wasn't about to compromise the paychecks and freebies by admitting that that's how she chooses to discipline her children. (I use the term discipline very loosely here folks, in my mind it's abuse plain and simple.)
What I want to know is how many bloody CA's are out there, exactly what the terms were/are and how the people who witnessed this abuse of babies and were more concerned about their jobs than the welfare of these kids sleep at night?
That is why I respect Mr. Hoffman's effort to ensure this info sees the light of day.
As far as I'm concerned, TLC had a huge hand in helping Kate get away with the abuse. That's even more reprehensible than I have words for.
Feb 28th @FollowMe_Twitch 7m
@Kateplusmy8 how do you make homemade doughnuts
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LOL!! These sheeple continue to crack me up!
Millicent -- yes, very creepy to go hunting for a person like she did. I wonder if she ever thought that maybe that person wanted to stay hidden for a reason.
"If you look in the middle photo that Robert posted it looks like one of the kids is facing the wall and she is walking away with whatever she is holding in her hand:
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Too bad one of the television news shows (TMZ, Extra, Entertainment, Access) doesn't plaster that picture on the big screen. One picture is worth a thousand words.
The new pics on Robert's site are breaking my heart, especially the center one with one of the toddlers cowering in the corner as his very own mother proudly stomps away with her beating instrument in hand.
One of my questions is this:
WHAT DID THE FILM CREW KNOW AND WHEN DID THEY KNOW IT?
These pics are stills from an episode which means TLC and Figure 8 and all the other endlessly named production people witnessed all this.
Love the Good Morning America clip where the 5 or 6 folks laugh hysterically that Robert's book damaged her pristine reputation. Love it! ("Oh the BOOK did that, eh? BWAHAHAHAHA!")
I plan on buying a truck load of popcorn and a big box o wine for this, coz JGFW's arrogance is taking her down the rest of the way now.
Stand tall, 15 Minutes!
I admittedly know little about legalish things and wonder if Jon and Robert can subpoena (if that's the correct word) former TLC employees to testify as to what they saw while filming?
Jane
If someone already posted this, sorry. TFW's ex-employer has a very negative article:
http://thestir.cafemom.com/entertainment/160305/kate_gosselin_sues_exhusband_jon
Maybe the pending lawsuit agai st RH and Jon, that Bullyville talked about had something to do with her firing. Hard to believe that this post from one stir blogger against another would have been allowed when she was still under contract.
Anonymous said...(118)
"I admittedly know little about legalish things and wonder if Jon and Robert can subpoena (if that's the correct word) former TLC employees to testify as to what they saw while filming?
Jane"
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Jane, I don't know much about the legal system either, maybe someone who does can clarify.
Isn't "discovery" a two way street?
Are CA's still valid when it comes to trying to prove abuse against minor children?
To use Tomatoes expression, "A can of worms" indeed.
"Maybe the reason she won't say she has beaten her children is because she hasn't stopped?? That would open a whole can of worms!"
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I seriously doubt it. At this point, they are older, they are in school, and given that the past allegations have surfaced, she'd be a fool to continue this. The kids would tell...there are too many of them. Someone would find out. That's the last thing she'd want out there for public and media consumption.
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The federal school lunch program is for families who meet the poverty threshold. Packing extra choices often is not an option, which is why the child is receiving the free meal to begin with.
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I spoke/wrote without thinking it through. Of course, if they are on this program, this may be the only one (or two, if breakfast is included) full meals of the day for that child. Sometimes, new things taste funny because they are new. Hopefully, the healthier choices will soon become familiar and more tasty to the children eating them.
I'm still scratching my head over these 20 or so cheerleaders. So if someone authors a blog, saying "Go Robert Go" (urging him to release the book), is that cheering him on? Or are the cheerleaders ones who personally encouraged him to go after the trash and put this book together?
@Cammie,
I totally get what you're saying, but I find TFW is 100x worse, because she HIDES the abuse, has her KIDS hide it and is using every ounce of her being to stop the world from reading her own words! Entries that said she was afraid she'd REALLY hurt those kids one day. Those other freaks preach it, write about it, lecture about it and truly believe their own bull*hit. Oh I don't know... :(
they're all mentally ill!!
When ya google Kate Gosselin's name
Google suggestions
1. Kate Gosselin How She Fooled The World
2. kate gosselin racist
3. kate gosselin kids
Kate will never apologize, nor seek help for her problems, because there is something permanently non-functionable in her brain that does not allow her to think as most of us do. The wiring is crossed. Right and wrong do not hold the same meaning in her brain as they do for most of us. Compassion? Missing. Concern for the well-being of others, even her own children? Nope. Is there a genetic component in our DNA for love, empathy, compassion, conscience? If so, I'd say that strand is missing from Kate's DNA.
Anyway, she will never admit all the things she did wrong. She will never seek therapy or medication for her illnesses. She will only go further and further into that black hole where her heart should be.
When she was a younger woman, she was able to better mask her true nature, behind a pretty facade. That facade is already breaking down. She'll keep having cosmetic procedures in a futile attempt to remain young and fresh looking. She better hope she doesn't have a horrible experience like Priscilla Presley. Priscilla had a facelift that has left her permanently unnatural in appearance. Before the lift, she was a beautiful woman. It's so sad.
I am looking forward to the release of Robert's revised book. I hope he had a good editor help him with it.
What law do you prosecute cheerleaders under anyway? I've seen The Accused where they got them under solicitation, but that was very serious, in regards to a gang rape, and the prosecutor's office was very reluctant because they thought the actions really didn't qualify (true story). Not a simple taking possession of a couple discs. Notably their brief cites nothing, no statute or case law, in regards to how all these doe a deers did anything illegal.
I seriously doubt it. At this point, they are older, they are in school, and given that the past allegations have surfaced, she'd be a fool to continue this. The kids would tell...there are too many of them. Someone would find out. That's the last thing she'd want out there for public and media consumption.
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I wouldn't be too sure. There are adult victims still don't tell. When you're a hostage of dysfunction, very hard for you to tell. And children still want to protect the abusing parent
Priscilla had a facelift that has left her permanently unnatural in appearance. Before the lift, she was a beautiful woman. It's so sad.
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So true, she was stunning. I thought I heard she had cheek implants or fillers put in by some quack and he used motor oil or something?
He's in jail now. What I don't get is she's richer than God, and she goes to a quack??
If someone already posted this, sorry. TFW's ex-employer has a very negative article:
http://thestir.cafemom.com/entertainment/160305/kate_gosselin_sues_exhusband_jon
"The book, which hit stores in 2012, was written by Jon's friend, Robert Hoffman, and has since been pulled from Amazon because the material for it was pulled illegally."
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When did it hit the stores? I must have missed that one! Gosh, you blink and that shelf is empty!
I'm not so sure the reason it was pulled from Amazon because it was obtained illegally. That was never proven at that point (still isn't)...the question was ownership of the content, wasn't it?
Don't writers check facts anymore? Guess not...
http://thestir.cafemom.com/entertainment/160305/kate_gosselin_sues_exhusband_jon
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That reads more like a Jon bashing to me.
The Stir is pretty much the only outlet attacking Jon.
It also assumes Jon was trying to write a tell all when it's been crystal clear from day one Jon was merely trying to gather ammunition to fight Kate in court since she and TLC were going to bury him otherwise. It was Robert who then wrote the book and said, very clearly, Jon had absolutely nothing to do with the book. Nothing.
They also say Amazon pulled the book because it was obtained illegally, a flat out lie. Amazon does not play judge and jury. Amazon pulled the book because they got notice of a dispute and it is their policy to pull books until disputes are resolved no matter how true or untrue. When the dispute is resolved they are happy to repost the book.
Ex Nurse,
I read that tripe on The Stir. it was poorly written and puts equal blame on Jon and Kate for this lawsuit, for the tell all book, etc. Infuriating.
Jon was moving (or trying to move) his stuff out, in the rain at night. Hoffman comes to help him. Kate calls the police to make them leave and says she'll throw away whatever stuff he leaves behind. Hoffman returns the next day before the garbage pick up and takes stuff from the garbage can. (I don't know if he told Jon he would do this, but he states he did it on his own.)
Three years go by, and Hoffman publishes a poorly edited tell all book. Any minor profits would go solely to him.
TLC gets it pulled because of copyright violations.
In August 2013, Kate files a federal lawsuit against Jon and Hoffman, making all sorts of allegations.
How is this Jon's fault? This is what gripes me about so much of the commentary. Jon has been minding his own business for years, living a private mediocre life. Yet because his crazy ex files a federal lawsuit, somehow he's at fault for Hoffman's tell all book?
The guy cannot win for losing. Either he's being castigated for not obtaining full custody, for not exposing Kate's child abuse; or he's being castigated for allegedly participating in Hoffman's tell all book and sharing the "dirty laundry." Seriously, no matter what this man does, there are those who willy-nilly will say he's equally at fault, that he's the one instigating it, that he should do the opposite.
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Priscilla had a facelift that has left her permanently unnatural in appearance. Before the lift, she was a beautiful woman. It's so sad.
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So true, she was stunning. I thought I heard she had cheek implants or fillers put in by some quack and he used motor oil or something?
He's in jail now. What I don't get is she's richer than God, and she goes to a quack??
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The "in crowd" was going to botox home parties and this quack would inject them there. It was some kind of low grade silicone that was used in South America to lube cars. Many of the people who got botoxed there ended up with disfigurements.
Jon has been minding his own business for years, living a private mediocre life.
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It was only six years ago that Jon and Kate sat on that couch together and said they wanted the best for their kids. Kate was lying. It's incredible how far off the rails this has gone.
I'm surprised that TFW hasn't had what in the past was called a nervous breakdown. It's possible she's on meds for something (depression, bipolar, whatever) in dealing with any mental issues she has going on. It's no laughing matter, and I'm not going to be shocked to read that somewhere in the near future she's been admitted to Hershey Med.
If that's what it takes to help her, then that's what she needs to do.
Finally got caught up I think.
1. The Stir has a dog in the fight. She may be a real dog, but she was their dog for a while.
2. Kate fans and BV hangers-on really have comprehension problems. Civil vs Criminal? This is their long awaited BV civil suit against the Kate-hater tweeters? The 20 or so Doe people from PA named in the lawsuit are Kate-hater tweeters?
3. Razzledazzle is depending on Kate's story/honesty much like BV depended on the story/honesty of Kate fans?
If it weren't so sad for those 8 kids, I'd say you can't pay for this much entertainment.
Sadly, there are 8 kids who are going to end up horribly confused, ultimately very unhappy, and at least some, probably somewhat dysfunctional in their ability to have good relationships in the future.
My hope and prayers are for Jon to weather yet another storm. He needs to be there at the end game, when those kids are going to need him the most.
My most ardent hope and prayers are for those kids. That they can overcome the obstacles their parents created for them.
Sorry folks...I skimmed the article and the negative remarks about Kate jumped out...honestly! Thought it was noteworthy because it was on the stir. Jon is having to pay a very heavy price for what appears to be about 6 months of bad, very public misbehavior. He continued to show shockingly poor judgement when he was literally being followed by the paps. And, the fact that the kids were ever on TV at all was because of their joint decision to sign 2 contracts that signed away their rights.
Time will tell if Jon planned this info leak to RH, and is, in fact, his business partner. If he was, I just can't see how this is in the best interest of his children. If so, it will mean that Jon was trying to profit from the abuse of his children.
I don't understand why it is right to participate in revealing shocking abuse to the public about a mother, but not OK to hold the father responsible for his intentional behavior, which, if done by anyone else, would be illegal. If his snooping was about assets, that is one thing. If he is involved in selling her journals to the public, for the purposes of profit and revenge, then any goodwill he has managed to accrue by lying low, will vanish. Kate's abuse, including her portable car spanked, has been documented and commented on for years. The details might be new, but that is all that was unknown. BringIng any of this to light, including the book, is IMO, not in the best interest of the kids.
Nancy...48 The picture of TFW with the spanker and the child cowering behind her that you referenced looked to me like TFW probably had spanked him and he was in time out. If you recall, at their old house, the kids spent time out in the corner where the front door and closet door were.
My opinion on the spanker is that it is the hard cardboard roll that your plastic wrap or aluminum foil come on. I took out my plastic wrap and as there is not much left on the roll, tapped myself with it to see how it felt. We saw the picture of TFW hitting (I think it was Leah) in the driveway with her open hand and she wound up before she belted her. Imagine her doing that with the spanker. That would hurt like hell.
I went to the lab today to have blood drawn and while I was waiting I noticed People magazine with TFW on the cover was there. So I decided to read it. A couple of comments. I'm glad the writer put in that a source said that while they were filming, TFW was difficult and made diva like demands. (TFW will spin it that it was Jon's fault she was a demanding diva.) I also chuckled when she said a show like The Talk would be ideal. Is she crazy? She had that opportunity back in the summer of '09 when she read for a talk show with Paula Deen. All while she was at the height of her fame and with TLC's backing and she still couldn't get a talk show. She needs to get it through her bleached out head that everyone who is anyone in the business knows that she is available and wants to be in the media. IT AIN'T HAPPENING TFW. Get over it.
Millicent...I agree with you about Jon. In TFW's eyes, Jon will never win. How sad is it that four years after your divorce when you claim to be happy and your house is peaceful, you still can't move on with regard to your ex. Deep down she is just plain miserable.
Hi Dwindle! Good to hear from you.
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I didn't post #6 regarding Auntie Ann and Meagler being trolls at 12:52 a.m.. I have no idea what this nut case was trying to prove, but I will address this person and to tell them to get lost or find another name other than url, you shit stirrer. You are messing with the wrong person, you POS.
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Meh, don't lose any sleep over their comment. It was probably a sheep.
I very often troll with my log-in name. (eye roll)
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Mel and Roundabouts, and from a few days ago, Raindbowsandunicorns, FormerlyDuped, Rhymes, Tomatoes, SeeSaw and Sheri, (and again I hope I haven't missed anyone)... thank you so much for those comments. I'm glad to report DH is slowly on the mend. I read your well-wishes to him. He thanks you, too.
Tucker's Mom - sorry, I meant to respond to your question the other day. We are pretty much on our own but I do take him to the hospital twice a week for physio. He calls them physio-terrorists. haha! Hopefully he will be walking again before the snow flies.
Here is a good reason(a Kate reason) for why she does not have anything delivered to the house, besides what has been mentioned> cause Kate wants people to see she is doing something and that she is busy(cause all of us, wonder what she does all day, especially when kids are in school, and she does not work) that she is important and popular and to get the paps to take pics, if around. To Kate it is a form of bragging. Oh, look what someone sent me in the mail, oh, look at how many boxes I got etc.
We all know Kate buys online, so she does not have to deal with store clerks(they are wise to her). And you all know if it does not fit or look right, you send it back. I think Kate even said in one of her blogs or interview or tweeter, she loves shopping online, cause she does not have to leave the house, except to pick up the order at UPS or Fedx. It's more of a bragging thing.
@Millicent
GREAT POST!!
Fleecing the Sheeple said...(122)
"I seriously doubt it. At this point, they are older, they are in school, and given that the past allegations have surfaced, she'd be a fool to continue this. The kids would tell...there are too many of them. Someone would find out. That's the last thing she'd want out there for public and media consumption."
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Vanessa said...(129)
"I wouldn't be too sure. There are adult victims still don't tell. When you're a hostage of dysfunction, very hard for you to tell. And children still want to protect the abusing parent"
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I agree with Vanessa in that I'm not so sure. As much as I hate to think about it, it is quite possible that it's still going on.
Why would the children think twice about it if it's been a part of their daily lives?
If she was beating them in FRONT OF PEOPLE who did absolutely nothing to stop it, why would the children think it was something they could talk about?
Weren't the twins in school while the toddlers were being filmed (and apparently beaten off camera)? Why didn't they go to their teachers and say, "Mommy hits the littles with a stick?"
We have no idea how all of this has affected the Gosselin children other than Kate's "their happy, happy squeals of delight, their YUMs! and the endless Thank You Mommys" twitter and blog updates.
There is really no telling how long it will take for the whole truth to come out. It may never.
All I can say is that IF, and I make no accusations or assumptions that it is, the abuse is still going on I pray that this whole ordeal ends with the privacy, healing and thriving of the Gosselin children.
They never asked, they didn't deserve.
Their mother should be ashamed. The fact that she's not and continues to exacerbate the situation with a lawsuit against their father while pimping them out on her twitter and website...well, that speaks volumes.
No pity, no way, no how.
Oh, why Kate is complaining about the homework the kids have to do, cause, if the kids have lots of homework, they can't do the 52 chores, and Kate will have to do them. Poor Kate boohoo! I read a review of the kids school, and this person said that the kids school gives a lot more homework than the public school gives, and according to this person the public school give a lot.
Oh, and ...
Did anything in that court document say the allegations contained in RH's book were false?
I didn't see that anywhere, but maybe I missed it.
I am thinking that those 20 cheerleaders would be Robert's inside sources. Once TFW identifies them she can sue the pants off them for violating CAs. Perhaps this is a new income stream she is hoping for. That is something that would align with her warped nature, don't you think?
What gets me is people who haven't followed the saga are reporting misinformation. Yes, Jon go wild for a while; and there were reasons for him to cut loose. He since has lead a quiet life out of the public and taking care of his children. Kate on the other hand stayed in the public and did the poor me tour followed by the bash Jon at every turn tour(s).
The general public doesn't know the background on why these two are where they are today. They only know or remember what was reported in the media. Jon is forever labeled as the bad boy who wore Ed Hardy shirts. Kate is the struggling Mom raising her 8 children by herself. Its all so wrong. Once, just once, I would like a reporter to actually do some research (remember when journalist actually fact checked) before they publish.
So what has changed? TFW is still the same ruiner and taker. She gives nothing back to society, she just keeps using.
Kate Plus 8: Add to the list of why Kate Gosselin disgusts me
June 21st, 2011 http://blog.imperfectparent.com/2011/06/21/kate-plus-8-add-to-the-list-of-why-kate-gosselin-disgusts-me/
I think the roll TFW spanked with looked harder than the inside roll of Saran wrap etc. It looked very hard, almost like wood.It could cause a lot of damage to tender young children.
Ex Nurse, I'm with you. I truly hope Jon didn't have anything to do with all this but if he did, shame on hias well as hs FW
Completely OT. (And humblebragging alert!) I've just finished my workday and guess what: I gave ZERO dirty look today! So proud of myself...
If TFW is complaining about homework now, why send them to this school? She brags it's an academic place, so what would you expect? wait until high school. Besides, the twins should be doing theirs on their own, and the 'littles' with minimal supervision. Where is the Homework Helper?
For some reason I can only get the video and not the audio on the GMA segment. I have a new computer so I know it isn't the problem. Odd.
Millicent--I read your response. The problem I have is that I just don't think I, or anyone here, has enough facts to logically conclude that all parts of the story are actually true. Maybe we will find out what really happened on that I'll-fated, dark and stormy night. Or, maybe the lawsuit will go Pouf!-- just like Kate's career.
Not sure if I already said this, but I wonder if this is TFW's Hail Mary pass at separating Jon from any inheritance, retirements funds, etc. Meaning, it has finally sunk in that there is no future for her behind a microphone or in any chair on any stage. Everyone had to be telling her that this is career suicide.
AuntieAnn said... 136
Jon has been minding his own business for years, living a private mediocre life.
Yes, Jon has been minding his own business, just trying to be the best Dad he can in spite of the witch he was married to. Here is Roberts explanation of how it all went down on one rainy night. Scroll down to APRIL 8 update.
http://gosselinbook.blogspot.com/
PYM> since the law suite of these John & Jane Does are said to all reside in PA, I wonder if these are ex-nannies, hired help, locals that were hire by TLC, cleaning people, anyone who worked at the house and knew what went on and anyone who signed a CA, and later talked. Talked to Robert or Jon, to confirm/witness, what is in Robert book, did happen. So, it depends on how long any of the CA, were written for> a life time or a year or 5 years, I wonder which one Kate had drawn up?
Even if Jon did participate in a tell all it's no worse than Kate trashing him so publically and letting TLC paint him as a deadbeat and cheater when she knew they had long been separated. The fact is, it was a messy divorce. But the way to hash through differences is to get some conjoint therapy or perhaps coparenting or conflict resolution guidance. Bringing all these old sores up now all the years later when you had plenty of time to address it and are just as guilty of your own poor decisions seems petty and vindictive. Which is exactly how the public reacted. People get it this time. This is what Kate doesn't get. What happened here is her vindictiveness was far worse than any alleged slight.
Vanessa said...(129)
"I wouldn't be too sure. There are adult victims still don't tell. When you're a hostage of dysfunction, very hard for you to tell. And children still want to protect the abusing parent"
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This is something I have never talked about except to my husband or very, very close friends. I grew up in a household with 8 (count them 8) siblings. I spent my childhood being slapped, spanked and beaten with a belt on a regular basis by my mother. I had to stand in front of a mirror and recite "I am a brat, I am a brat" for at least an hour while my mother watched and smiled. The verbal abuse I endured lasts me to this day. I never spoke of what was happening in my house because I was ashamed. I'm ashamed right now just writing these words. In my adulthood, I tried to make my mother happy. I wanted her approval. I needed her approval. It took a long time for me to surrender those feelings and just live my life the way I saw was the right thing to do. When I had children, I did the opposite of what my mother did. I have two grown adult children who have made their way in this world. They are wonderful but it was a struggle for me to always think before I acted about anything where they were concerned. This shit lives with you forever and you are always ashamed. That's why children don't speak out.
Sorry for all of this, but I just had to get it off my chest. I pray for the Gosselin children. I pray that they have strength to endure what they're going through. They will not come out of this without many, many scars.
@Kateplusmy8
@The5antos @miasavin0 Ha! I gave ZERO dirty looks today.. Was I deep in thought, concentrating and happened to look his way? Most likely!
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@The5antos @ashymama2 @Kateplusmy8 there was no literal bumping They made eye contact& he held the door open for her. Sorry for the confusion.
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Whatever lame excuse she gave for her rudeness -- how danged difficult is it to smile and thank someone who holds the door open for you?
Apparently it's too much for TFW!
I don't think I've ever, in my life, watched a stranger open the door for someone and not heard a thank you or at least a smile and nod in their direction.
Like we've been saying, deep down she is very unhappy and swirling around in a hurricane of vindictiveness and unhappiness. It is not making her life better if she can't even so much as thank a stranger for an act of kindness.
The guy held the door open for Kate and she gave him a dirty look? Why am I not surprised? I think she's a man hater among other things.
Not only didn't she thank him, nod, acknowledge him for holding the door open for her, she shot him a dirty look.
But if we knew her in real life we would love her. Right?
Had she not engaged with that tweeter and gotten so defensive, and just ignored that or apologized, it likely never would have come out that this situation was even WORSE than it originally sounded. The way it was first presented, I just assumed she honestly must not have noticed the guy. It happens.
Now, because she pushed that tweeter's buttons, we now know she actually didn't even acknowledge someone doing something nice for her.
This may be just a small thing, but it's actually a perfect example of how TFW digs her own holes and falls in all by herself.
Ex Nurse said... 139
''........Time will tell if Jon planned this info leak to RH, and is, in fact, his business partner. If he was, I just can't see how this is in the best interest of his children. If so, it will mean that Jon was trying to profit from the abuse of his children.
I don't understand why it is right to participate in revealing shocking abuse to the public about a mother, but not OK to hold the father responsible for his intentional behavior, which, if done by anyone else, would be illegal. If his snooping was about assets, that is one thing. If he is involved in selling her journals to the public, for the purposes of profit and revenge, then any goodwill he has managed to accrue by lying low, will vanish. Kate's abuse, including her portable car spanked, has been documented and commented on for years. The details might be new, but that is all that was unknown. BringIng any of this to light, including the book, is IMO, not in the best interest of the kids''
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I was with you when you were saying ''if'' Jon was guilty of this or that, but then you went up the down staircase and suddenly started blaming Jon for actually doing what TFMJG is accusing him of doing!
I think that you and I have had the discussion before about exposing the abuse of the children not being in the best interest of the kids. Those children KNOW about the abuse...they are the ones being abused. The more the exposure of their abuse the better, in my opinion. I don't understand the concept of not exposing child abuse because it might hurt the child being abused. That makes zero sense to me.
What's she walking around scowling for anyway? She got her lawsuit. Isn't that what she wanted?
White Organza, I am so JELLUS of you! No dirty looks! Did you get any thank you'd? I will be extra jellus if you got thank yous!
Lalalalala said....This is something I have never talked about except to my husband or very, very close friends.....
It must have been very hard for you to share your experience with us.
I wish you all the best my dear.
Jacquelyn
Lalalalala at 159
I don't know how long you've been reading this blog, but MANY of us were abused children, and have spoken of the effort made as adults to deal with our childhood. Many of us have spoken of the determination to never ever treat our children the way we were treated. Like you, I had no idea what was a 'normal' way to raise my children, so in every case I would just think how my parents treated me in the situation, and I would do the opposite.
Talking about it now really does help. I was never ashamed of being abused, but was filled with confusion and resentment about why those that DID know did absolutely nothing. How could my Aunts and Uncles and teachers see the black eye, or the bruises on my arms and legs from the belt, or coat hanger or whatever they found to hit me with do nothing? Thank goodness times have changed, and people do report suspicions of abuse.
As strange as it may sound, I'm proud of the Mother/Grandmother and GreatGrandmother I now am, due to my memory of abuse and my determination to not abuse as I was.
Lalalalala,
Thank you for having the courage to tell your story of childhood abuse. You're right; abuse lives with you forever, it effects your whole life and it's why many never speak out even in adulthood.
I know it was a struggle but you're to be commended for surviving your abuse, for being a strong woman breaking the cycle of abuse, and for raising 2 children in a loving, healthy household. Be proud of yourself! You deserve it. {{{{HUGS}}}}
I don't think I've ever, in my life, watched a stranger open the door for someone and not heard a thank you or at least a smile and nod in their direction.
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I saw it today. A woman opened a door for a middle-age man, nicely dressed gentleman...looked like a business professional. He just walked right right into the store, didn't acknowledge her. She said to him, "You're welcome." We both laughed.
White Organza, I am so JELLUS of you! No dirty looks! Did you get any thank you'd? I will be extra jellus if you got thank yous!
August 29, 2013 at 5:37 PM
Yes, Joy. Not to rub it in, but I did have people literally dancing on tiptoes around me, singing my praises and giving me tens! #superhappygraythursdayafternoonatwork
Did anything in that court document say the allegations contained in RH's book were false?
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Yes. "Untrue Stories." #35.
I wouldn't be too sure. There are adult victims still don't tell. When you're a hostage of dysfunction, very hard for you to tell. And children still want to protect the abusing parent
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They may still want to protect them, but with eight kids, it would be truly amazing if it didn't slip out somewhere, sometime, either at school with teachers, or at a sleepover with friends. A child tells another child in secret; that child tells his parents, and it's out.
Thank you to all of you who have been willing to share your hurtful stories with us here. It shows a level of trust in a community.
Re: the dirty look to the gentleman holding the door. Clearly he did not bow as she passed through. He did not fully appreciate her "regalishness". Bad on him.
I wanted to make a comment about the untrue stories. Although they did throw that wording in there, I don't see them making any claim for libel or defamation or slander. Their claims are limited to the wiretapping and so on. So unless they're going to go the defamation route, I'm not sure how relevant it is going to be to prove that the information is true. Unless perhaps you are making some kind of First Amendment freedom of information argument, which is possible but not probable.
In terms of wiretapping and theft and so on, it's neither here nor there whether the abuse and whatnot is true, TO THIS PARTICULAR allegations. (For defamation, it's 100% relevant) I don't see that as an element to prove any of those allegations ALLEGED.In fact by admitting something was stolen that seems to sort of imply it's true in the first place. If the stories were all false, why bother stealing anything. Just make it up!
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