A&E's season premiere of Duck Dynasty last week garnered 11.8 million viewers. The big ratings beat out the previous record holder for reality T.V., Jon and Kate Plus 8, whose episode announcing the couple's split that aired in June 2009 hit 10.8 viewers. That goose is cooked. The successful show about a family who makes duck callers and other equipment for duck hunters has also earned its stars a raise, at more than $200,000 an episode for the family according to most reports.
A&E tonight will repeat the Duck episode that now reigns supreme, as well as a new episode. Check local listings. The episode can also be seen online for free on A&E's web site.
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«Oldest ‹Older 1 – 200 of 875 Newer› Newest»Based on Duck's salaries for similar ratings maybe Jon and Kate's 250,000 an episode figure WAS accurate after all. Hmmm.
I saw part of one episode of DD. It struck me as highly staged. Very different format from J+K+8.
Meh, not for me, but I do get that the show is crazy popular, along with all the cast, so I "redneckognize" them for that.
I also respect that DD is pulling in viewers not looking for a train wreck. But TFW can be oh so proud of her one time only 10 million viewers who watched her family self destruct.
The $200,000 is for the whole family. I've doubted for a long time that Kate alone made $250,000 and I never read that Jon and Kate made that sum when they were filming together. I thought it was said she made that amount after the divorce.
Hahahaha, love the photo and headline! Look, Kate, no manis or pedis, no bleached blonde hair and they're STAHS.
The Robertsons are a great family. Willie grates on my nerves a little as he seems materialistic, but he's still likable as they all are, young and old. Jase is absolutely adorable. The season premiere wedding brought me to tears. It was so tender. My husband does like it as much as I do, but I fast forwarded to the wedding at the end and he got teary-eyed too. They are already rich; they don't need the money. It's just nice to see a family get along like they do.
Honey Boo Boo and Duck Dynasty. All I can say is "Thank you, Netflix!" My opinion only, but I do wonder about what passes for entertainment these days.
I found that $200,000+ figure possible, considering TFW had quite the comeback planned for 2010. January started with the People cover/make-over, then DWTS and book release, and a formal announcement by TLC that Kate Plus 8 and Twist of Kate were coming later that summer. Didn't she also guest host a talk show for a week that year, too? It sure looked like TLC/Discovery were expecting all the viewers to gobble up everything she did in 2010, and may have agreed to pay her quite a bit more. Obviously, this is only my guess, but that 2010 contract was the first opportunity to renegotiate all terms since the split/divorce scandal hit and the show's popularity sky-rocketed. TFW's team should have been able to take 2009's unbelievable ratings to the table for 2010's figures.
Too bad for them that TFW had reached her maximum saturation point by then.
I also thought that it was this very big, pricey contract that was her nail in the coffin. When KP8 was cancelled, her ratings were not that bad for a reality show, but if she was getting paid that much more than other reality stars, than the profits she drew in for the network would have been that much less. Add in her crappy attitude, and you have the perfect recipe for cancellation. JMHO.
Never seen an episode of DD, and don't really care to. lol
As for the Gosselins, it's a shame school starts next week and it seems the kids never got an actual vacation this summer away from home. Well, except the chosen few who accompanied Kate to Jamie's house.
Another thought on the $200,000+ rumored figure for TFW (thanks to Tweet-le for mentioning the whole family comment for DD). 2010's contract would have also been the first wherin the kids monies would have been figured in from the start. That being said, that rumored amount may have been for TFW and the kids shares, too. Thus, and in classic TFW fashion, she is not lying when she says that amount is way off. After subtracting the kids' shares, her portion would be less than that number.
Passing on this article about Duck Dynasty.
http://www.today.com/entertainment/duck-nation-has-spoken-duck-dynasty-poised-be-biggest-cable-6C10963174
Sorry, don't know how to make it clickable.
I adore the Honey Boo Boo family and feel very protective of them when I hear or read people bad mouth them. They are honest and loving with each other, despite their lack of decorum and polish. That being said, watching their show makes me uncomfortable because it is just so obvious that the show is all about highlighting their flaws. The only point of the show seems to be to poke fun at people who are making the most with what they've got. Mama June had her first three daughters while she was still a teen, is legally blind for cataracts that were untreated in childhood, and suffers from an untreated foot injury. And yet, her girls are loved, cared for and are happy. Reportedly, she is banking the lionshare of the family's TLC earnings for the kids' futures. I also recently read she came down hard on one of her girls when some cyberbullying was exposed. They are not perfect, and their lack of manners disgusts me at times, but I can't justify judging too harshly. Considering where they've come from, and where their priorities lie, these are clearly good people.
Wow, three posts in one day. Record for me. Caffeinated and feeling chatty. :-)
The only point of the show seems to be to poke fun at people who are making the most with what they've got.
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Well, this is 2013, not 2010 and Duck Dynasty is A&E not TLC, so you really can't compare. I think she did get a big pay hike from TLC, but I still can't imagine the $250K figure just for her.
Very telling comments from uber fans in the article. They like the family because they're hard working, built their business from the ground up, have stuck to their Christian values, are not materialistic, and are down to earth. Maybe they really helped to fill a hole in reality tv that the greedy families taking advantage of every VIP opportunity just wasn't touching. I didn't really get into it when I saw it myself, but I get the appeal.
I watched this show several times before reaching my fill of Duck Dynasty. However, I never once felt that any of the people on the show were cruel to their children or to their spouses. So that right there, brings them miles above TFW and her horribleness.
It seems to me that everyone on the show is in on the joke. As in, "We' making fun of ourselves, spoofing ourselves, but in a good-natured way." I mean, buying a winery and acting like total rubes? On the other hand, I did get a kick of out Sy sitting down at a sewing machine and whipping out an apron that would fit Miss Kay and not look like a tent. And I personally am glad to see any Vietnam Vet doing well and having a happy life.
Although the religious aspect is a bit much for me, I would watch endless reruns of Duck Dynasty before I'd ever watch a repeat of any J&K+8 episode. So congratulations to the Duck Dynasty crew for beating the old reality tv record!
DD is definitely an improvement over the Real Housewives shows.
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@abbie79 @Kateplusmy8 good idea, I admire her organisational skills, and as a teacher, I love how she values and develops each child.
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Huh?? People see things that just aren't there sometimes.
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Maybe they really helped to fill a hole in reality tv that the greedy families taking advantage of every VIP opportunity just wasn't touching. I didn't really get into it when I saw it myself, but I get the appeal.
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There is no doubt that Duck Dynasty has many very ardent fans. I've been on other sights, such as Huffington Post or elsewhere, where some aspect or another might be discussed, such as talk about Phil (the original founder) leaving the show after next season. Many of their fans seem to really appreciate the religious aspect, the fact that there is no swearing, emphasis on family and doing good, etc.
Unfortunately, as usually happens, they seem to take the show literally, and don't understand that many of the events are staged.
I love that they are all college educated, worked from nothing to make something for themselves and give back to others. Terry Bradshaw was Phil Robertson's BACKUP in college. I like that the children are seldom seen, and that the teenagers have a say in whether they want to be on the show. And I love that this family LOVES their country. Simple values proving that you don't need sex, violence or terrible language to be entertaining.
Simple values proving that you don't need sex, violence or terrible language to be entertaining.
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here here! applause!
It's corny fun, that's all
Lee lee, I love your giant leeches avatar!
I don't watch Honey Boo Boo, but I do admire June for directly stating that the money from the show goes into accounts for the children.
I have also read articles about Uncle Poodle being open about testing HIV positive, and that may help others decide to get tested.
Katykat, that's what I like too. They place a high value on education and all earned degrees. Phil has a Master's in Education and Jep once mentioned he was working on his Master's degree too. They were successful long before they agreed to do a show. I guess in a sense you could say they are successful in spite of the show, instead of because of it. They all have relationships of decades, so they all came up together, from struggling poor to rich - those pretty wives did not marry for money for sure. They were all poor when they first married.
I haven't watched Duck Dynasty and have no plans to do so. All I know is that my religious conservative friends think it's the best thing since Charles Stanley (TV preacher) and cell phone apps for Bible reading. They can't say enough good things and one family was ecstatic when one of the DD guys showed up at a concert they were attending. Whoopee, I say.
But yeah, move over TFW. You have been deemed
yesterday's headlines. Your name has been taken down from the records roster. You don't hold anything except contempt for the world.
I haven't watched Duck Dynasty and have no plans to do so. All I know is that my religious conservative friends think it's the best thing since Charles Stanley (TV preacher) and cell phone apps for Bible reading. They can't say enough good things and one family was ecstatic when one of the DD guys showed up at a concert they were attending. Whoopee, I say.
But yeah, move over TFW. You have been deemed
yesterday's headlines. Your name has been taken down from the records roster. You don't hold anything except contempt for the world.
And I believe it's Martin who is currently earning his Ph.D. They are proof that the American Dream is still attainable, if you're willing to work for it.
They were successful long before they agreed to do a show. I guess in a sense you could say they are successful in spite of the show, instead of because of it.
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I guess that's right. They don't need the show. A&E offered them the chance to just have a good time in front of the TV audience. Why not? No pretense, no desperation, no
worry. Beef curry.
Another anecdote about the Duck Dynasty crew, they told on Live with Kelly and Michael. Jase was in lobby of swanky Trump Tower hotel where the network put them up for the pr tour. Jase said he was mistaken for a homeless person by am employee and was escorted to the door! He was laughing about it, saying how nice the hotel employee was and how he might have done same thing himself if situation reversed. Jase jokes he was ”a victim of facial profiling”. Trump Hotel not used to guests with long beards and camouflage pants!
Imagine the response if anything similar happened to TFMJG! I do not think it would be met with good humor!
I, too, think that $250/episode for the TFW was possibly true around the time of the divorce.
1-High ratings at the time (TLC/TFW too stupid to realize that those wouldn't continue),
2-TFW had quite a few upcoming opportunities booked (how was TLC to know that she'd blow them ALL)
3-The $250k/episode was probably for her AND the kids, and the payoff to Jon to buy out his contract.
The problem was that the high ratings didn't continue for lots of reason.....
1-People got sick of seeing TFW treating herself to lavish trips, one after the other
2-It wasn't as interesting without Jon
3-TLC finally starting showing the TFW for the witch that the was, starting with the Palin episodes
4-Ratings started dropping precipitously, and TLC couldn't justify the sky high compensation for mediocre ratings. And trips which must have cost a fortune.
5-The only trip left to send her on was Europe. And then where?
Not like she's going to go to Africa or India or Eastern Europe or South America.
Well, she could have, but it would have been the Palin episodes all over again.
6-Since she blew all the opportunities, what else was there to do with her? There was nothing left for them to do to expand her brand. She blew everything they tried.
"I (...) veel very protective of them when I hear or read people bad mouth them. They are honest and loving with each other, despite their lack of decorum and polish. That being said, watching their show makes me uncomfortable because it is just so obvious that the show is all about highlighting their flaws." (11)
I feel exactly the same way, Leelee. I can't really watch that family for much more than five minutes. After that, I feel the urge to take a long bubble bath. And eat a big green salad. Go figure.
But I must say that Mama June is a real force of nature. And I do respect her for all the inconditional love and caring she gives her family.
When her daughter gave birth to a little girl with three thumbs, Mama June just shrugged it off. "Having opposal thumbs is the developmental evolution that made us humans. My grand-daughter has three thumbs. Therefore she must be a highly evolved being."
No "woe is me", no hand ringing, no dramatics. No "She's ruined!" Just "We just love her to pieces, her and her three thumbs. So there!"
Anyone watch the latest TLC show about the man with the 132 lb scrotum?
I thought their shows couldn't go any lower than they already have, but apparently they can.
PJ's momma said... 22
Katykat, that's what I like too. They place a high value on education and all earned degrees. Phil has a Master's in Education and Jep once mentioned he was working on his Master's degree too. They were successful long before they agreed to do a show. I guess in a sense you could say they are successful in spite of the show, instead of because of it. They all have relationships of decades, so they all came up together, from struggling poor to rich - those pretty wives did not marry for money for sure. They were all poor when they first married.
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Another thing I enjoy about the show is it's simplicity. It's staged and scripted, for sure. But their antics are everyday things... like shopping for a new recliner to replace an old smelly one. Or a donut eating contest. Or real, annual hunting trips (real traditions, not ones created for R show). Or Uncle Si picking out a new hunting dog ( a poodle!) Or Willie taking his daughter's new boyfriend hunting and reading him the riot act. Or Jase fighting his homeowner's association because they won't let him clean and dress a deer in his front yard. At the end of every show the entire family sits down to dinner around an enormous table, takes each others hands, and praises God for their blessings.
It doesn't matter what side of the Gosselin debate you are on, I defy anyone to say that they could relate when TFW & kids left for the Outer Banks for two weeks to a $10,000/wk beach house to "get away from the stress" of her $100,000 kitchen renovation. It has nothing to do with jellusy. It has everything to do with not being relatable even one tiny bit with the rest of America, which at that time was smack in the middle of a terrible recession. TV is an escape and guilty pleasure. There's nothing pleasurable about watching TFW gripe and whine about trivial problems when regular folks were truly in dire straights.
K+8 proceeded in the same manner- freebies, trips and grifting. She made a choice to squeeze every trip & perk she could get out of TLC, rather than have a longer running show which actually depicted some reality. That choice resulted in cancellation. In one breath she admits she was a diva- in the next breath she says she doesn't regret it- in the NEXT breath she says she hates every minute of not having a steady income. But the lack of steady income is/was a result of being a diva. Sigh.
Jolie, that sounds like a lovely family friendly evening entertainment! I wish this was made up, but I saw the TV listing. I feel really sorry for the unfortunate subject of the program. I am sure there are some folks interested in medical oddities that will be absolutely fascinated with this. Not me!
News flash: men, if your scrotum is enlarging, go see a doctor, don't shop it around for a reality special!
Next up: the newest reality shows: I didn't know I had a kidney stone! And When Gallstones Attack!
Another thing I enjoy about the show is it's simplicity. It's staged and scripted, for sure. But their antics are everyday things... like shopping for a new recliner to replace an old smelly one. Or a donut eating contest. Or real, annual hunting trips (real traditions, not ones created for R show). Or Uncle Si picking out a new hunting dog ( a poodle!) Or Willie taking his daughter's new boyfriend hunting and reading him the riot act. Or Jase fighting his homeowner's association because they won't let him clean and dress a deer in his front yard. At the end of every show the entire family sits down to dinner around an enormous table, takes each others hands, and praises God for their blessings.
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None of what you described is an every day thing in my world. I have never watched Duck Dynasty and never will, but based on your description I would find them as unrelatable as you find Kate Gosselin.
" Anyone watch the latest TLC show about the man with the 132 lb scrotum? I thought their shows couldn't go any lower than they already have, but apparently they can." (Jolie)
Well, it's official: I have the mind of a 13 year old boy. That statement can make me think of an endless number of tasteless jokes. (I blame the second hot, long sticky summer day in a row, up here...)
jolie Jacquelyn said... 30
Anyone watch the latest TLC show about the man with the 132 lb scrotum?
I thought their shows couldn't go any lower than they already have, but apparently they can.
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I surfed past it, but got a glimpse of the poor man wearing a hoodie as pants or something. You can't unsee it, that's for sure. Yep, that's Kate's station, "The Learning Channel." She must be so proud!
Not only were people tired of seeing Kate go on the trips, they were tired of seeing her act so ungrateful about being there.
The DD Family mentioned that, yes, much of it is scripted after events that have really already happened in their lives and that they ad-lib the whole thing. They also give away a lot of $$ to their community and beyond. I know this because one of my friends is from the area. They truly believe "That to whom much is given, much is expected." From what I heard, they were tired of seeing trash on TV and just wanted to bring back Family Values.
The only thing I hope when these unfortunate people with severe afflictions are put on television is that they will be helped by modern medicine. Such was my hope with 'Tree Man' (Dede) who had branch -like growths all over his body, actually a virus. Apparently he was being treated by a US team of doctors as a result of the show, but his Indonesian government put a stop to it fearing exploitation! Dede is once again covered by the growths and cannot care for himself independently.He said he would do anything for a cure so he could work.
Really? It seems like buying new furniture, getting a dog, and welcoming a new significant other into family traditions are pretty common experiences. I think when people say it's relatable they mean broadly. Broadly, it sounds like their family values and emphasis on hard work are very relatable for most people. Obviously few people know much about duck callers but that doesn't seem to stop viewers. The show didn't draw me in but now I think ill give it another try.
Discussion about a swollen scrotum reminds me of "We're the Millers". If you've seen ot you know what I mean. ;)
Anyone watch the latest TLC show about the man with the 132 lb scrotum?
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Yes. I was flipping channels and landed on it. My friend called while I was sitting there with my mouth hanging open. She asked what I was doing. I told her I was looking at a 132 pound scrotum. Dead silence on the other end. She's a physician. She didn't believe me. I moved on to the next channel very quickly.
That poor man, and shameful for TLC to even think about airing something that like. They will do anything for ratings. Anything.
Unseated? Oh well. TFW will get over it.
Different Strokes said... 33
None of what you described is an every day thing in my world. I have never watched Duck Dynasty and never will, but based on your description I would find them as unrelatable as you find Kate Gosselin.
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Yeah, I'm not sure what's wrong with me. When my kids were preschoolers I waited for them to arrange for a bus to take us to Duff's Charm City Bakery for my birthday. It never happened :( I then waited for Emeril to show up one day and start cooking for me. It wouldn't have hit him, either! That never happened :( Then there was the time I got a couple high electric bills, so I clicked my heels together and wished for men to descend on my house and install solar panels. As you can imagine, that didn't happen.
Those are things that never EVER happen to regular people. Regular people hunt every day, people shop for furniture, people search for a new pet and so on. Talk about splitting hairs............
You know, I was off & on looking at Kate's twitter(I don't have a twitter account nor do I want one, too much BS and fighting and gossip), the one where you can read all tweets, and I think everyone there needs to take a vacation, chill pill. All this threats, counter threats and crap, people stop already, It's one thing to dislike Kate, it's another to attack & threaten someone, over a celeb, who does not know you from squat! They are so obsessed with Kate, they will defend her to the end, argue with anyone who dislikes Kate and report them to BV. And what is the funny thing about this> Kate doesn't care, Kate does not care what they do, or say. If Kate were a stand up celeb, she would tell her fans not to make any comments about the kids father, cause one day soon those kids will be reading Kates twitter and ask. why, mom do you let these people talk down about our dad. A lot sooner than Kate thinks. Kids have ways of getting access. I would truely hate to be Kate in the next couple of years, when the kids really start questioning everything, they read on the net. just sayin
I didn't see the scrotum guy special on TLC but I did hear him on Howard Stern. It was actually a pretty interesting interview. Howard also talked to the doc that performed the operation to reduce the size.
I've never seen DD, it's just not something that's grabbed my attention.
Those are things that never EVER happen to regular people
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When we redid our kitchen, we actually had to PAY the man. Sheesh! The nerve!
To add insult to injury, we had to live amongst the construction crumbs and use our laundry room as our kitchen and GASP! washed dishes in the utility sink.
No one gave us an oceanfront manse for a couple weeks. I still don't know how this didn't happen!
Getofftwitter I think you're preaching to the choir and I agree.
Pretty Bird @Pretty_Bird_0 59m
So with the public releasing of all this info there's no lawsuit?
Pretty Bird @Pretty_Bird_0 52m
@Kateplusmy8 I mean is it normal for all the evidence to be released to the public before the case is heard?
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I haven't seen anyone address this. Good point, unless I don't understand how lawsuits are handled.
Of course it's never addressed. I'm not being sarcastic, I think it really kind of sounds like what someone might do after they go to their lawyer with their mountains and mountains of "smoking fun" evidence that really in fact is neither here nor there. Then the lawyer has to tell them I'm sorry you have no case it's unethical to take on civil cases which have no merits or in which my client doesn't even have standing. So they have nothing left to do but start their own site and post their own documents and so on in this rather delusional hope that everyone else will see what they see.
I don't know if that was a Freudian slip or just a typo but I meant smoking gun, not smoking fun! lol
Oh by the way for those who are interested I just heard Hannah Anderson is doing an interview tomorrow on Today.
That's what I'm thinking, too, Admin. It's been almost 5 months since the announcements of lawsuits and now all this releasing of information. Of course, the fans haven't thought of that, I guess. They don't seem to have an ounce of curiosity between them.
"Mountains of smoking fun." Sounds like something maybe the DD guys could get into. And by smoking I don't mean cigs or dope, for anyone who might think that's what I was saying.
What is this lawsuit? Another much ado about nothing with BV or Kate or?
Admin> smoking Gun & smoking fun, in their case means same thing. LOLOLOLOL
This off topic and from the last post, but I wanted to comment on it.
Silimom said: I have cervical vertebrae that are narrowing along with bone spurs and my nerve is being pinched and I just couldn't get comfy.
I have this problem as well and we (my pain dr. and I) are trying to keep me from my 3rd spinal surgery for as long as humanly possible.
When I started having symptoms due to the above problems, where I have normally been asymptomatic, he told me to go get one of the soft cervical collars. You can get them from CVS or Walmart and I'm sure many other places as well.
He had me wear it at night and as much as I could tolerate during the day until the symptoms went away, to help open up the limited area that was left and give the nerves that are being pinched time to heal.
I ended up wearing it 24/7 for about 2 weeks and then at night for about another 3-4 weeks and it has made such a huge difference for me. If I start feeling a bit off or getting headaches a lot, I just start sleeping in the soft collar again for a few nights and it fixes me right up.
It was a bit annoying at first, but the thought of another surgery was a great motivator in toughing it out. After the first couple days it didn't bother me much at all.
Usually when you're knee deep in a complex lawsuit your attorneys will advise you not to speak publicly about it. The last thing you want is for opposing counsel to print out some tweet you made that can be used against you. Even the most innocent things can be twisted around. Second, usually when you're knee deep in a complex lawsuit you simply don't have the time or energy to be stirring the pot on twitter about it. You've got enough to do just with meeting with lawyers and staying up to speed on what's needed of you to be messing around on twitter.
You know another thing about the Duck family, even though this show never really drew me in, I really do like that they are so self made. Things almost always feel better when you know you worked hard for it. You appreciate them more because you can be proud you earned it through hard work, and you know exactly how much you worked for it. Anyone can finagle a freebie at some point, but it takes real smarts and dedication to actually do the work for it.
Actually that's what I once read about what you should do before you make a purchase. Figure out how many hours you will have to work to pay for it.
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@abbie79 next week (sob sob sob) I'm gonna miss them! And I'm not ready for homework, cold weather, and a tight schedule!
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Didn't she just say not one week into the summer vacation back in May she was essentially going a bit nuts?
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This all sounds light hearted but I tend to worry about fans who are so demanding like this, and I also think it's a bad, bad idea to play favorites, like TFW clearly does with people like Emily. She breeds jealousy among the fans, and if anyone is unstable, that's a bad thing to do.
I saw this same thing happen with a celeb I follow on instagram. Lots of people have been posting old rare photos of celeb from 30, 40 years ago and she has been re-instagraming several of them. Except she is mostly just doing it to this one account. Now, the other ten accounts are starting to get jealous demanding why she won't repost their photos which they feel are just as good. It's a bit scary to watch things break down like that. Disorder among the masses! So far celeb is doing the right thing and completely ignoring the grumbling.
So funny we were talking about being able to relate to the Duck family. Meanwhile TLC just keeps putting on their glorified freak shows. Moose Mania said this in 2011:
Moose Mania said...Huh? How many people can relate to a guy who has multiple wives; or Toddlers & Tiaras; or My Strange Addiction?
And Auntie Ann said this:
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TLC has no moral integrity whatsoever. Whatever they might have had they lost when they hired Eileen O'Neill. Since she started they're making millions off people's anomalies. I realize that money is what it's about in the business but I refuse to watch that channel anymore because of their blatant exploitation of children. And apparently now Say Yes to the Dress is featuring morbidly obese brides. Goodlord. How 'bout I just Say NO to the Show, any show on TLC.
55 posts and 10% are from the owner. huh. After seeing all the lies and MULTIPLE, MULTIPLE user names other people posted, I wonder how many are socks here, Admin??
I wonder how many are socks here, Admin??
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I have no way of knowing. I guess we should ask them?
#56: Avid reader, infrequent poster, but not a sock.
I'm wearing my Wonder Woman socks today! The dh with the help of the dds gave them to me last Christmas. He's so sweet!
I might wear my Power Puff Girls socks tomorrow. Blossom is on them.
I'm wearing my Wonder Woman socks today! The dh with the help of the dds gave them to me last Christmas. He's so sweet!
I might wear my Power Puff Girls socks tomorrow. Blossom is on them.
Did the twitter cesspool get so repetitive that the twidiots found their way over here?
I'm wearing my Wonder Woman socks today! The dh with the help of the dds gave them to me last Christmas. He's so sweet!
I might wear my Power Puff Girls socks tomorrow. Blossom is on them.
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When do you wear your white knee socks with your muumuu and pink crocs? :)
That reminds me. Sandal season will be over before we know it and I need to get myself to the store for a new supply of socks. Think there are any coupons on Kate's site?
I have 8 socks.
One of them has a hole in the toe, so I guess I really only have 7.
I have 8 socks.
One of them has a hole in the toe, so I guess I really only have 7.
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Well, darn it!
Sleepless, I have GREEN crocs. You know, green like an alligator! I wear them with my shamrock socks when i'm gardening.
I have pink flip flops that I wear at the beach, to places that have signs saying ” No shirt, no shoes, NO PROBLEM! ”
Sleepless,.sorry to disappoint everyone, but I have a confession to make.
I don't own a muumuu!
I know, its a disgrace.
Admin, can I still post here, pleeeeease?
I do have a ” life is better in flip flops” t shirt, that I wear over my bathing suit, with my pink flip flops when at the outer banks. Does that count?
I can't decide if I will be argyle socks or plain white knee socks today. Maybe I will be one of each.
Not a sock and too hot to wear socks. I am wearing my crocks if that counts. They're decorated with little bulldog head buttons and METS buttons. Rather cute if I do say so myself.
MY crocks are green. Must hit Target for a muumu.
The dryer has eaten several of my white socks and a few of my husband's black ones
I don't have a twitter account to grift new ones.
Anyone? Bueller?
Will there be a prize awarded for the most creative socks?
Sleepless should get the prize for the funniest sock joke!
Its midnight on the right coast, otherwise I would stay up and think of more funny things to say about socks, and crocs. I look forward to reading tomorrow!
NJ @66
Did you say Mets? :-)
Sleepless, I have GREEN crocs. You know, green like an alligator! I wear them with my shamrock socks when i'm gardening.
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Sorry, Joy. I forgot yours are green. Who has the pink crocs? I remember someone at the last party was wearing those with her pink and green muumuu. Or maybe those Pink Squirrel drinks made me see everything as pink.
Rhymes With - I love my METS! Win or lose I'm a die hard fan.
<======Check out the socks I found. They have capes!
I can't decide if I will be argyle socks or plain white knee socks today. Maybe I will be one of each.
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Do you wear them with madras Bermuda shorts?
NJGal, none of my socks have CAPES!!! I am so jellus!
I'm really going to bed now. I'm posting in my sleep. I'm dreaming about socks.
Sleepless In Seattle said... 71
I can't decide if I will be argyle socks or plain white knee socks today. Maybe I will be one of each.
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Do you wear them with madras Bermuda shorts?
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Ha! Those shorts are just a little too fashionable for me. I think I will pair my socks with a flowered cotton housedress and some fuzzy slippers.
(And I am still laughing at your "Well, darn it!")
Nope no socks from this gal at least during the summer months, which where I live lasts about 3-4 months, then the snow comes, so I kind of have to wear socks, because bare feet in dress shoes...well hurts, and they get stinky...but the minute I walk in my house...off those socks come.
I dont need to hide my tootsies behind no socks, nor do I have to hide my opinions behind any socks.
and for that reason I have no fancy socks, but if I was to buy some, I want some of those socks with capes! Those socks are cool-e-o :) NJGAL!!!
Go Mets!
Wicked cool socks, NJ.
Can we all use them to post here?
I could never profess to love or even like the Honey Boo Boo show. Yes, they are simple. Yes, they probably do love each other. Yes, the show does everything they can to make them look like hicks.
I am disturbed by the fact that the mother has had four daughters, probably by four different fathers, has never been married, and now she is a grandmother and the mother of that baby is not married. Am I wrong to find this pathetic?
I doubt this will get posted but I need to say something.
Now that everyone has been pretty much outed, maybe it's time to give this Kate Gosselin BS a rest.
I'm no fan, but honestly, the stuff that BV posted is beyond humiliating.
Don't try and tell me that 'none of those extreme haterz post here'. That's laughable.
Fans, haters and, yes, even the people who post here are completely out of line.
It's time to draw a line in the sand and end all this. Really. End it.
Anonymous said... 56
55 posts and 10% are from the owner. huh. After seeing all the lies and MULTIPLE, MULTIPLE user names other people posted, I wonder how many are socks here, Admin??
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...asks the coward hiding behind "anonymous".
Haha you guys are too much. No socks here, barefoot.
I can't find what Elaine said now about Honey Boo Boo but I remember being disgusted. I think it was about how people love to laugh at them or something. I remember thinking, she's a CHILD.
Done with, you make a fair point but I think we have to be realistic. Celebrity snarking is never going away. Look at all the comments on the People article. You can't stop this train. Sometimes, people go overboard, that's just sort of part of it. Just as much as people think TFW's "haters" go overboard I can point to plenty of examples of fans going overboard--what's the difference? I would suggest the opposite, maybe people who are getting so upset that some people don't like certain hated celebrities, from TFW to the Kardashians, to Gwynth Paltrow, to anyone else in the category, should give it up. Who cares? How is it hurting them? It doesn't hurt me if TFW or any of those D-listers have fans, who cares? It's just silly snark or celeb fandom, it's really never should have been such a war in the first place. I think the cute sock comments tonight show so much of this is just all in good fun. Some people like celebrity snark, some people hang out at political sites, some people watch soap operas, some people closely follow famous court cases, whatever floats your boat. To each his own, but it is being taken FAR too seriously. The more serious stuff was really mostly a long time ago, like when the show was still on, and when Murt was fighting so hard to change things. Those things are long over with and we're mostly just left with the snark, and a group of people I really like and think are funny. Negativity and taking it too seriously though makes it not as fun and gets to be too much.
I forgot the name of the brand, but there was a feminine product brand in England that got some really nasty hater comments some time back. I suppose they could have started a war with that person. Instead, they laughed it off and made a video responding to it in a completely snarky manner. Why can't we all just smile and snark like that when we don't like something? It was a good lesson in not taking life too seriously IMO, much less your haters. And from a tampon company of all things lol! Anyway I hope that makes sense and would love to hear more from you on this if you want.
I want to add too, isn't it really TFW's choice whether she wants this to continue? Whether she wants to continue to put up with, for example, a People article with thousands of negative comments on it?
If she doesn't like all of the things that come with celebrity, she has a normal life waiting for her whenever she wants. I don't think even she would argue with that. Jon picked a quieter life, and although there is no denying there are still some nasty things said about him, it's usually when he says something publicly, which was his choice, and it's not nearly anything close to what's said about TFW, who is much more public. But that's really up to her and I think she's been pretty clear privacy is not her desire. I will be the first in line to demand we respect it if she ever says she wants privacy.
I think the cute sock comments tonight show so much of this is just all in good fun.
Wouldn't be surprised to know most of the 'cute' comments made are by the very people who are extreme haters.
PatK, you're just as anonymous as I am.
I don't know how anyone can take anyone else here or elsewhere at face value.
I get what you're saying, but doesn't that cut both ways? No one knows who anyone is. They could be extreme haters, whatever is meant by that. They also could be very kind, generous, warm people, too, couldn't they? That's just the beauty of the internet, you never know. You always have to accept who you're dealing with might not be who they seem. Whoever anyone really is, I like who they are here. I don't really care who people are elsewhere but some people seem so fixated on that it's just creepy.
I don't really care who people are elsewhere but some people seem so fixated on that it's just creepy.
Really? I find your statement to be even creepier. You don't care who people are?? So pedophiles could post here and, hey, who cares? Wow. So it really is all about making a buck then, isn't it?
Dear Done With the Gosselin Crap:
If you want to have nothing further to do with the Gosselin "BS," then the quickest and easiest method to accomplish that is to stop visiting this blog or any other blog or site that discusses the Gosselins. Erase them from your computer history, and from your favorites. Don't worry about what anyone else is doing. Once you do that, you can then forget about this whole saga and move on.
If you feel you are out of line for posting here, then be strict with yourself and stop posting here. Stop reading here. You can do it if you really want to!
As to myself, I don't find myself out of line for posting comments here. So I've decided that I will not change my internet habit in this particular regard.
Best of wishes to you in moving on.
I am disturbed by the fact that the mother has had four daughters, probably by four different fathers, has never been married, and now she is a grandmother and the mother of that baby is not married. Am I wrong to find this pathetic?
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I don't watch the show, so I don't know the answer to this question. Does it appear that the daughters are working toward an education of some kind, to enable them to go out in the workforce and earn a good living? Obviously, Honey Boo Boo is too young, but what seems to be the general trend in the family? A premium placed on education - or gaining a good skill of one kind or another? Or just a lot of eating, farting, and preening?
Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said... 16
DD is definitely an improvement over the Real Housewives shows.
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I hereby nominate this comment for understatement of the year :)
done with the Gosselin crap said... 80
''...Now that everyone has been pretty much outed, maybe it's time to give this Kate Gosselin BS a rest.
I'm no fan, but honestly, the stuff that BV posted is beyond humiliating.
It's time to draw a line in the sand and end all this. Really. End it.''
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All that stuff is on TFW's timeline. Why are you over here? I'm not in the least bit ''humiliated'', since I posted none of the stuff, and IF you are not a part of it, why are you so upset with this blog? bv/TFW's fan isn't posting here. You're barking up the wrong tree as far as I'm concerned.
Since you believe it is time to draw a line in the sand and end this, then I suggest you do exactly that! Go to TFW's site and get on twitter and beg TFW to stop everyone from posting all the ''beyond humiliating BS''.
I don't know what else to suggest, pobrecito!
TFW revels in the war. It's all about HER, so that's a good thing in her mind.. If it really bothered her she would not keep plugging the spotlight back in after TCL turned off the electricity.
My dad had a drawer full of socks, but none of them could type. I guess they don't matter much then.
Mom knit Dad new socks at least twice a year. He loved them. Mom stuck with the solid colors but my aunt liked knitting argyles to keep the Scottish theme going in our family. Dad was well socked!
She breeds jealousy among the fans, and if anyone is unstable, that's a bad thing to do.
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Just like with her kids. She plays favourites and plays them against each other, either subtly or blatantly.
Admin, in 82, 83, 85 - well said!
Celeb snark is fun! And real celebs are laughing all the way to the bank. When people are arguing about Kim and Kanye naming their baby North West, they are talking about Kim and Kanye. That helps their celebrity and their market value because they are still active topics of conversation.
I don't know who everyone else is here. I do know the interwebs are a BIG place with lots of people able to read about and comment on things that interest them. There are a lot of different posters who comment here, on lots of different things.
If you really want to read extreme ”haterz” comments, try a political site. Especially in Virginia right now, our state is lucky enough to have an odd year election cycle for our governors race. Apparently the two candidates are, according to the opposing party, spawn of satan, worst liars ever, thieves, unethical, immoral, and they regularly shoot Bambi's mother and serve her at political fund raisers. I love gubernatorial election years, the politics obsessed neighbors spew more outlandish statements than usual. Even the comments section of the Washington Post on Carolyn Hax advice column devolves into political name calling about Governor Hairdo, lieutenant governor Coochy Choo, and McBusiness.
Done with crap, I always recommend a walk in the park, or do something to get you outside, unplugged, away from the interwebs to recharge and revitalize.
I like the fun here! We have plenty of good discussion not including anything about TFMJG. she is same old, same old and I sincerely hope she can get outside and recharge, revitalize, and find something that makes her truly happy.
Meanwhile, check out the vicious snark on aaryn or Gina Marie on any Big Brother fan site. Some of it is really funny, some is just vicious. But they signed the contract to be stuck in a house for three months with strangers watching!
We have socks? Of course we have socks! I'm a Thorlo girl myself ;-)
The cutest socks I purchased recently were for gifts.
Yellow. Tube socks. Paula Deen logo. (75% discount on price because Paula's restaurants have been removed from Harrah's casinos.)
They were marked with measurements and looked exactly like a stick of butter.
I have posted here under two names. One before I got a blogger account and one after.
I "own" my remarks.
I, too, own my remarks. Only post under one name.
I do have neon orange crocs which I wear everywhere, without socks, but do not yet own a mumu.
It's so annoying when TFW starts whining about school- how she will miss the kids, hate getting up early , and cold weather. School has not started yet- enjoy summer to the end. And we aren't expecting snow anytime soon- we are in a heatwave atm.
Really? I find your statement to be even creepier. You don't care who people are?? So pedophiles could post here and, hey, who cares? Wow. So it really is all about making a buck then, isn't it?
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Goodness. Hyperbole!
No socks here. Not until at at least the first snowstorm and I have to pull out my boots. Even then I only wear my little athletic socks. Even in winter, if I wear shoes, I don't wear socks.
Done with the Gosselin crap...I've never liked the word hate. Didn't allow my girls to say it when they were young. I don't hate TFW. However, I've seen enough of her actions to her ex, her children and the people around her to know I intensely dislike her. And how have I come to that conclusion when I don't personally know her? Because she always spouted the line that hers was the "realist reality show" out there. So I came to the conclusion a long time ago that TFW SUCKS big time. And although I don't know any of the posters on this blog, I come here because they have a sense of humor; we go on great virtual trips; things are discussed that have nothing to do with TFW etc. I understand if you are done with the Gosselin crap and feel it is time to move on. But because TFW insists on staying in the public eye and putting her kids out there instead of giving them their privacy, the snark will continue. When an article comes out about TFW, read the comments. They aren't pretty. TFW and TFW alone can stop all the crap but she refuses to do so. So until she does, bring on the snark.
"I'm no fan, but honestly." - Dead giveaway.
"Don't try and tell me that 'none of those extreme haterz post here'. That's laughable." - Well if the "extreme haters" are posting here they're not doing it with the vitriol that is used in TFW's timeline.
"Fans, haters and, yes, even the people who post here are completely out of line." - I didn't know that it was out of line to have and state an opinion.
Why do I picture some fans sitting at their computer screaming "You're out of order! You're out of order! This whole hating on Kate Gosselin is out of order!"
lol NJ. Oh the humanity!
It's Kate Gosselin, folks. Not Bradley Manning.
I've been thinking about the logic here. So, if the idea is we don't really know who anyone is here--a pedophile, an extreme hater, whatever, then by that logic I either have to put everyone through a four point background check, or just not allow comments at all. How does that make any sense? (they'd love that wouldn't they)
So far, you don't need a background check to post a comment on the internet. It would be a logistical nightmare. Some people might get through who are clearly unstable or angry or off somehow, but that's what moderation is for. The interwebs were supposed to be for everyone, and we have many other systems in place for tracking down criminals and pedophiles before they get to take the internet by storm.
Oddly usually I have to use moderation for people who make it clear they support TFW but whose comment is often over the top inappropriate, uses the C word (that one pops in almost every night, hi!), attacks posters here in an over the top and frightening manner, threatens to out people, or sounds over the top angry and/or unstable. I've posted many pro Kate comments, so it's not that I never post them. It's just the unstable lot seems to come from that side more often than not, it is what it is.
Life is just easier using the same sock(s) all the time.
I have lots and lots of socks. All gray crew length bought in pack of 10 at a time.
Had to tell you about my friend. She loves socks with designs on them. Holidays, cartoons etc. Crazier the better. She had over 300 pair at one time. From the first time she set up an email acct. her name was Queenofsocks . LOL
Really? I find your statement to be even creepier. You don't care who people are?? So pedophiles could post here and, hey, who cares? Wow. So it really is all about making a buck then, isn't it?
Who knows who you are either. How will you prove who YOU really are? Are your initials TFW???
Why don't you pick a name and stick with it, anyway? Stop hiding behind Anonymous.
And by posting here, aren't you contributing to the so-called "making a buck"?
Fido, agree.
A wise person once said never care more about this than the person you are helping does. (RIP)
TFW doesn't seem to care about this site. As far as I know she has never even mentioned us that I remember. I have no proof she has even been here. Years and years ago I was contacted by TLC about a couple video clips and a COPYRIGHT issue, which they quickly dropped. They never asked us to shut down or anything like that. But boy do her fans care soooo much more than she has ever has about us. It's sad actually.
It's Kate Gosselin, folks. Not Bradley Manning.
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Listening to the teasers about his lawyer's appearance on the Today Show this morning, I just had a feeling the "news" would be related to gender identity. Go figure! What timing!
The thing is, I don't get that "catfish" vibe from any of the regulars here. The regulars don't bait and switch, or pile on love or hate, or try to "groom" anyone.
The posts that do smell like 3-day old fish are the phishing posts from Anonymous.
TFW is boring. No show. Not much grist for their mills. There will be a predictable blip with the release of the cookbook, who cares?
After that dies down, expect more baiting comments here.
Oddly usually I have to use moderation for people who make it clear they support TFW but whose comment is often over the top inappropriate, uses the C word (that one pops in almost every night, hi!), attacks posters here in an over the top and frightening manner, threatens to out people, or sounds over the top angry and/or unstable. I've posted many pro Kate comments, so it's not that I never post them. It's just the unstable lot seems to come from that side more often than not, it is what it is.
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I really am sorry you have to deal with this type of unwanted crap. The interwebs are huge and there's a lid for every pot, a sandbox that you can find to play in. Coming here is just intentional hatred, baiting and shit stirring.
Tucker, yes, it's just common sense and the ability to spot the red flags. When people notice red flags here, they aren't shy to say so. We could be completely wrong, sure. Everyone here could be leading some sort of terrible double life. But it's really not that much different than real life. Your own neighbor could be a pedophile so what's your point?
Isn't that just sort of life? You make the best judgments of people you can and go on with life. If something is off, you should say something. But if nothing looks off why be so paranoid? Some people actually ARE nice people--most people I daresay. So what if you were wrong? You were probably right the other 99% of the time. The safer alternative is to never talk to anyone at all, but that would make for a very dull life. And a dull blog!
If I were doing this for the money, I wouldn't be here. There are a lot of easier ways to make money where I wouldn't have to put up with the trolls.
I came here years ago for some information on Kate Gosselin.
I have stayed because of humorous, intelligent, interesting ladies --none identified as Kate Gosselin.
Tucker it's ok. Some of it does hurt my feelings, especially the C word. I don't think any woman would enjoy being called a C word. They might think about how that makes a woman feel before throwing it around like a dagger. I am a person. But it's worth the abuse for you people and how funny and fun you are.
Whoops, meant to say Chelsea Manning, not Bradley.
Oy Vey.
Dmasy said... 115
I came here years ago for some information on Kate Gosselin.
I have stayed because of humorous, intelligent, interesting ladies --none identified as Kate Gosselin.
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ME TOO!!
I love socks too, but I usually end up losing one. Don't we all? What I want to know is where ARE all those missing socks? I used to be very organized and would put all the socks in a nylon mesh bag when I washed them. Now I'm too lazy, I guess, and I have a drawer full of single socks. Maybe I should unravel them all and then crochet a huge afghan? Nah.
I think it's Jerry Seinfeld who has a hilarious bit about socks. About how when they all get to the dryer they team up on making their great escape. It's so true, where do they all go???!
Ok youtube has everything!!! Here it is, the sock bit!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5OoR0Qjrlo
Ok youtube has everything!!! Here it is, the sock bit!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5OoR0Qjrlo
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Thanks for the morning laugh.
So socks aside, if she's posting about school starting next week, and hypocrit that she is, crying crocodile tears about missing her kids, do we assume there is no grifted beach vacation this summer? Mummy got a new car, kids stayed home all summer. Sounds about right in Kateworld.
I made a decision over a year ago to remove any and all Real Housewives from my DVR recordings. It wasn't long after Russell Armstrong committed suicide.
It wasn't just because of that. It was because the format was getting silly. Every episode is about the girls either out to dinner/lunch, at a party, or on vacation together. Someone feels they just HAVE to call someone else out for something petty that happened the other person often doesn't even remember. They invariably end up in a massive fight. Other people start calling other people out or taking sides and next thing you know the whole group hates each other. Ok this was fun for a couple episodes but now they do it....every...single....episode! This can't be a real representation of a group of girlfriends.
I'm glad I edited that from the DVR. There are better offerings out there, better guilty pleasures even, and better reality t.v. even.
I wonder if Kate will ever put a link to her coupon site on her Twitter profile? I would take her maybe 30 seconds.
Oddly usually I have to use moderation for people who make it clear they support TFW but whose comment is often over the top inappropriate, uses the C word (that one pops in almost every night, hi!), attacks posters here in an over the top and frightening manner, threatens to out people, or sounds over the top angry and/or unstable. I've posted many pro Kate comments, so it's not that I never post them. It's just the unstable lot seems to come from that side more often than not, it is what it is.
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Mental illness manifests itself in a variety of ways. Some people have a bad heart, kidneys, lungs...what have you...the brain is an organ as well. If only we could transplant them!
Mummy dearest got a new sports car and is also getting a nice little string of mini vacations to NYC, Baltimore and Canada in a few weeks. How does this make kids feel I wonder?
Mummy also got a few trips of her own. Remember the tweets from HCI about her difficult lunch meeting, and another tweet spotting TFW in the airport down there?
Dmasy, there are socks that LOOK LIKE A STICK OF BUTTER?!?!
I want some!!!
I am really JELLUS of you!
I am JELLUS of everyone with cool socks! I want sticks of butter socks AND socks with Capes!
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 116
Tucker it's ok. Some of it does hurt my feelings, especially the C word.
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It's a hateful word and not even Kate has ever deserved it.
No one deserves it. I've never called her or anyone names. I can always respect a reasonable and rational explanation of what your issue is, even if I find it absurd, versus name calling.
done with the Gosselin crap....85
I have never sensed that "haters" post here, frankly, I don't think Administrator would permit that kind of poison. My sense of this blog has always been that the posters here are both fascinated and curious about TFW behaviour. You can certainly be perplexed by someone's behaviour without hating them.
The only person who can take the spotlight off Kate is Kate herself. But, her desire to stay relevant will always outweigh any and all negative comments about her, because she ignores them. Kate's children could be free of all of this, if Kate just accepted fame is fleeting. She cannot, and will not give up on getting it all back.
Her cookbook has brought her another round of talk show appearances, and book signings, so don't worry about Kate, she's doing just fine. This blog's concern has always been about where the children fit in to her priorities.
Personally, if I knew there were thousands of negative comments being printed and said about me, I would want to protect my children from seeing that perception of me. I would rethink my desire to be a famous mother over being an ordinary, everyday mom to my kids. But TFW needs fame far more than she needs anything resembling mediocre, she said so herself.
So, I imagine TFW gives little thought to anything said here, we are all just jealous of her, end of story.
Since you believe it is time to draw a line in the sand and end this, then I suggest you do exactly that! Go to TFW's site and get on twitter and beg TFW to stop everyone from posting all the ''beyond humiliating BS''.
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I have no idea who the fan is who keeps linking the outings, but wow, she/he seems to really delight in doing it. Sad thing is that Kate must see that stuff, knows exactly that the fan is doing some work for BV by posting those links, and does absolutely nothing about it. She just lets it go...exactly the same as she does with the hateful tweets about Jon.
My question is why -- why does she allow this to go on without saying, "STOP, this is my timeline and it needs to end now." I just don't understand it. The hatred on both sides just needs to end. Both sides are stubborn, the old Hatfields and McCoys. That feud lasted, what, three decades? If that pattern continues with the fans and non-fans, TFW will be eligible for senior citizens discounts at hotels and local restaurants by the time it ends.
I just read an article about Farrah Abraham(Teen Mom-porn star) where she set up a Wish List on Amazon.com and tweeted it to her fans.
Farrah Abraham @F1abraham
I love my #GIFTS http://t.co/2d3EGUSilc: Farrah Abraham: Wish List http://t.co/Is2Nw40RgU via @amazon Thank you Fans xo
http://www.realitytea.com/2013/08/21/farrah-abraham-tweets-amazon-wish-list-asks-fans-to-buy-her-gifts/
Poor TFW-all this time she's been using the wrong approach to grifting on twitter.
Anonymous, I find her fans fascinating from a sociological perspective and I think TFW takes advantage of many of them who are clearly not very bright and easily manipulated. Let's face it, it's rare to find a physicist on TFW's timeline and in general rare to find professionals at all there, although there are a scant few.
You are free to think that is "superior" or whatever you want about that but I don't look down on anyone like this. On the contrary I don't like how TFW seems to attract and subsequently take advantage of such people and I have said so dozens upon dozens of times. She lures these people in and accepts countless freebies and makes countless empty promises to them and I think that's wrong and I am going to say so.
You will notice I rarely discuss the teen fans because I never thought most of them were intellectually challenged or easily manipulated. This Emily girl seems nice enough and I bet she will find a nice boyfriend in college in two seconds flat and forget all about TFW. I think fandom is a normal part of development for many teens and they will outgrow it and be normal. Proof the interest is in the manipulation and abnormal fandom, not some normal teenage phase.
Oh Farrah posting your wish list??? UGH! Well at least she's upfront about her grifting, I can almost respect that lol. I thought the wish list was supposed to be an easy way to remember things you are thinking about and considering. Not a wedding registry! Plus you can make it private so it's just between you and Mr. Amazon.
Another note about Emily, TFW dangled a carrot of a sleepover to her this summer. I'm sure it has slowly registered with her it was just a broken promise. Little stuff like this is going to start to register with Emily and make her question this, she seems like a bright girl with a promising future, and I'm willing to bet in 12 months time she will barely remember her obsession with TFW. But those other fans are not going away like I'm certain she will.
Still no mentions from the fans about all the money they're saving using Kate's coupons. They're much more interested in the haters.
Ah yes, the dangled carrot sheeple sleepover. Kinda makes you wonder what she dangles in front of her kids. This certainly was a long, boring summer for them. Even the "excitement" of the People magazine shoot probably happened way back in the spring.
She's moved on, to her own getaways this fall. One wonders if Skeeve drops everything to be her paid person when her calendar suddenly has a date, or is his life so not busy either. If TLC has him traveling for another security gig, what will TFW do?
I love socks too, but I usually end up losing one. Don't we all?
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I lose forks just like the dryer eats the socks. I don't know where they go! We had a flatware set for twelve. I had one salad fork left, and five dinner forks when I gave up looking for the missing members and replaced them. Knives and spoons, and cocktail forks and ice tea spoons are all present and accounted for.
Thank goodness it's an open stock pattern.
Perfect example Tweet the coupon site. I have yet to hear a fan explain how that site has really saved them any money or gotten them a good deal they can't get anywhere else. I can't make heads or tails of it, it screams content farm. Yet they're spending hours on it instead of on a real cost saving site or doing other things that would really save money. She just wants their clicks, she is not seriously interested in helping people really save money.
That's just your opinion, anonymous. And you've said it over and over and over. It's not getting through to those who enjoy posting here so please move on now.
I think you're obsessed with me and it's creepy and that's MY opinion. See, cuts both ways doesn't it?
OrangeCrusher1 said... 137
Ah yes, the dangled carrot sheeple sleepover. Kinda makes you wonder what she dangles in front of her kids. This certainly was a long, boring summer for them. Even the "excitement" of the People magazine shoot probably happened way back in the spring.
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I'm wondering what the kids are told to make them zip their lips about a People spread...
Over and over, they've been conditioned to lie and conceal. Keep the family secrets.
Until I read the above comments, I did not realize BV was outing people, I assume from what he got from LisaK. What's the purpose? If hardcore sheeple harrass these people, then they are opening themselves up for some legal trouble. Kate always gets somebody else to do her work, dirty or not. She keeps clean hands while watching BV bully. She must have been a nightmare in high school. Gee, I hope the kids don't imitate her.
I have no doubt Steve will be at Kate's side for her travels near and far.
She took him for protection at a local Zoomba (or whatever) fundraiser, for Pete's sake!
Oh, I bet everything she's hired Steve to escort her on those book tours. He must have some deal with TLC to allow him to work away from his show assignments or is working for her on his days off.why does he put up with continually being her purse boy? Money? A little somethin' on the side? She is so obsessed with him.
I'm wondering what the kids are told to make them zip their lips about a People spread...
Over and over, they've been conditioned to lie and conceal. Keep the family secrets.
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That's what the spanker is for
She probably doesn't feel the same sense of urgency to take the kids on vacation because she's got her own VIP tour coming up. I'm sure she wrote rat claws into the contract, he would be part of the deal. Meanwhile the kids??
If we've said it a hundred times it's that this entire thing was NEVER about the kids. It was always about TFW and her getting the celebrity lifestyle she lusted after. Does something feel a little unbalanced about a book that is full of photos of the kids yet the only one getting the perks of the trips and VIP treatment is TFW??
I do own socks but hardly wear them because they always seem to trigger a hotflash...not what I need :-)
last week frontpage "news" will be replaced with another face! Woohoo!!!
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@Kateplusmy8 so you vacuum pack your own baked goods? How long do they stay like that?!? Love it!
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I think it's probably like the cookies. They stay frozen until you unfreeze them. Baked good stay vacuumed until you unvacuum them!
Yikes! Just saw a rumor that Abby Lee Miller (Dance Moms) may be on DWTS!
I think you're obsessed with me and it's creepy and that's MY opinion. See, cuts both ways doesn't it?
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I don't think that they are obsessed with you, admin. They're just jellus of your Dora the Explorer crocs.
I wanted to see if anyone else here has checked out Kate's coupon site for ease of use and utility?
I don't surf the coupon code sites. What I do is when I want to buy something online (outside of Amazon), I Google the store+coupon code and usually, retailmenot is at the top of the results list. And I generally get useful, timely discounts.
When I look at Kate's site, it's not intuitive or inviting. It's nowhere near the top of a results list when coupon codes are Googled.
She's also failing to keep it updated, once again breaking promises.
Kate's coupon site says she'll be updating coupon deals on Twitter and her websites, but she hasn't.
Her initial post promising this was from July 11, and yet no update whatsoever.
You're only as good as your reputation. It's the most important thing you can have going for you. Yet, Kate's sites are woefully not kept current with sporadic if any posts in (way too many) categories.
I just think she'll get bored with this coupon site, just like her blog.
The coupon site will never reach what CC is and you know what else? There's a glut of coupon sites already out there. What you'd have to do to compete or even beat the well established and experienced competition, I don't know.
Whatever it is, it's not going to come from Kate.
Fleecing The Sheeple said... 147
Alice Mae @AliceMaeW
@Kateplusmy8 so you vacuum pack your own baked goods? How long do they stay like that?!? Love it!
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Some of Kate's fans act like they just came out of a very long coma. Vacuum pack you own baked goods? OMG!! How clever!! Never heard of such a thing!! Love it!! Love, love, love it!! You're awesomely amazing!! You should write a book!!
Orange Crusher said:
She's moved on, to her own getaways this fall. One wonders if Skeeve drops everything to be her paid person when her calendar suddenly has a date, or is his life so not busy either. If TLC has him traveling for another security gig, what will TFW do?
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I am guessing that Skeeve's first allegiance is to TLC. He knows which side butters his bread. So if there is any conflict, he will choose the TLC gig over ferrying around Ms. Krieder to her no-doubt sparsely attended book signings and what have you.
I used to mock McSkeevy for this nonsense gigs, but have come to realize that TFW is unable to handle even the simplest interactions with people who are not under her direct control. Thus, Steve (or some other buffer) is needed to prevent TFW from having a melt down when exposed to public airspace.
I'm sure that we will see Steve pop up some where on TFW lame cookbook tour.
Someone will take a photo of him wearing the same shirt while "protecting" his paycheck I mean TFW.
NJGal51 said:
Why do I picture some fans sitting at their computer screaming "You're out of order! You're out of order! This whole hating on Kate Gosselin is out of order!"
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With a regularity that would make Sheldon Cooper proud, "anonymous" comes along from time to time to tell us all to "move along, nothing more to see here," and otherwise admonish us to stop pointing out TFW's many, many flaws. One more than one occasion, at some milestone or another, another anonymous or never-before-heard-from poster will say "Well I guess this blog will shut down now."
Those that want to believe a fairy tale shouldn't come visit this particular site, as we tell it like it is.
I wonder how much Steve will be paid by HCI or TFW to accompany her.
If TFW is paying his normal $4k rate why can't/won't. Take the kids on vacation with that money?
I guess it just goes to show who more important and who she rather spend money on.
I think fundamentally what the Kate Gosselin saga has always been about is Kate getting attention. Kate having twins and parading them around the neighborhood on 4th of July as "The Gosselin Twins!", Kate trying for "just one more" when she knew she didn't need fertility drugs to conceive naturally and having "6 more". Kate soliciting donations and freebies. Kate soliciting the local newspaper to do articles on them (until the articles became less favorable). Kate soliciting for a tv special.
I think at first it was just about getting things for free and getting attention. Fundamentally, I think it's still about that but now you add in the celebrity lifestyle.
Good site to look for coupons:
Top 15 Most Popular Coupon Websites | August 2013
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These sites get millions of visitors a month. Kate's so small potatoes it kinda makes me cringe with embarrassment for her.
Off topic:
"Google is celebrating the 151st anniversary of the birth of French composer Achille-Claude Debussy with an animated doodle set to one of his best-known pieces, Clair de lune (Moonlight)."
Check it out
The coupon site is just plain weird, and not because it's Kate's. I clicked on the featured stores. Target is one of them. Sorry, no active coupons found. Sorry, no unreliable coupons found. I clicked on Gap. No active coupons, but two unreliable. If these are featured stores, shouldn't there be active coupons there? I click on Kohl's and get this message..."
Coupons by Kate
Page Not Found
Sorry, but you are looking for something that isn't here.
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The story of my life, I guess.
Millicent said... 92
Dear Done With the Gosselin Crap:
....If you want to have nothing further to do with the Gosselin "BS," then the quickest and easiest method to accomplish that is to stop visiting this blog or any other blog or site that discusses the Gosselins.
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Millicent, your words were spot on. I do believe the fans are feeling flush with faux victory over the demise of the other blog. I think they feel that if they could just scrub the net of all negative mentions of TFW, she will finally get that new show and her book will be a bestseller.
I really wish they would focus their anger and vitriol on the real person responsible for ruining Kate Gosselin's career- Kate Gosselin. She had plum opportunities in the entertainment community most people could only dream of. She was a demanding diva. She single-handedly squandered all of it.
Amanda, Iowa said... 148
I do own socks but hardly wear them because they always seem to trigger a hotflash...not what I need :-)
last week frontpage "news" will be replaced with another face! Woohoo!!!
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I meant to say: New People magazine is about to hit the racks..... last week frontpage "news" will be replaced with another face! Woohoo!!!
Admin said...
But that's really up to her and I think she's been pretty clear privacy is not her desire. I will be the first in line to demand we respect it if she ever says she wants privacy.
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Wait--I thought Kate said that she didn't sign up for the negative parts of fame--just for the freebies, attention and flattering portrayals.
Anyway, in my morning search on Google for any results in the past 24 hours, there was zip--except for this blog. There are the usual misdated entries, but that is it, In news, there was a single mention in a Kendra article--a side note, not the focus of the article.
So, in less than a week of a People cover, she is completely off the radar. Her own website doesn't even come up, nor do any fan sites.
As far as the haterz posting here, I suppose they do. But, if they do, they manage to be respectful, even if there is disagreement. For those who can't be civil, I don't think it would be very satisfying to engage in civil conversation and debate--they seem to enjoy the hit-and-run type of comments and Tweets.
Abby Miller on DWTS---please, let it be true! They will have huge ratings, and she is so entertaining--and talented. She has worked hard to be successful in the dance world, and it has paid off. She was not manufactured for a reality show--she is the real deal. It is nice to see hard work and dedication pay off. I am sick of these instant stars, who have been branded their private life for public consumption.
One more than one occasion, at some milestone or another, another anonymous or never-before-heard-from poster will say "Well I guess this blog will shut down now."
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Remember when someone jumped on here and swore up and down on a stack of Bibles that they knew for a fact that the divorce was all staged for publicity, and that it was never going to happen and they'd be back together again?
There was another person who claimed to be an insider, knew everything that went on in the household because she/he was involved there personally, and all kinds of things would be revealed in a few weeks. Never happened...
OrangeCrusher1 said... 137
Ah yes, the dangled carrot sheeple sleepover.
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I dub this a sheepover.
I dub this a sheepover.
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lol, Virginia. Good one! And a sheepless sheepover at that because it never happened!
I would love to see Abby Miller on DWTS.
I dub this a sheepover
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Dang, we're a clever bunch. Guess that's why we still hang out here, 'cuz it's certainly not because of TFW's fascinating life. Looks like the new coupon venture is a bust already. No surprise.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 4h
@Kateplusmy8 I made a visit 2 http://couponsbykate.com today! Learning 2navigate my way around...finding the deals & savings! :)
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Well good ol' Milo is doing her job.
One thing I was will that's positive about the people magazine is that the kids do look adorable.
The comment about having "socks" on this website or on Twitter is really ludicrous. Unless you are posting under your REAL name, you are using a SOCK. So pretty much all of the people who support TFW or who are HATERS on TFW's Twitter are using "socks." I didn't read all the way back to who started the whole "socks" comment, but unless that person posted using their real name so that they could be identified, then they themselves are using a "sock". So STFU.
Marie
done with the Gosselin crap said...(85)
"I'm no fan, but honestly, the stuff that BV posted is beyond humiliating.
Don't try and tell me that 'none of those extreme haterz post here'. That's laughable.
Fans, haters and, yes, even the people who post here are completely out of line."
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You can say it's out of line, that's your opinion.
It is my right to criticize and comment on a public figure who blatantly exploits her children for her own personal gain.
I think it's wrong and I say so...exactly how is that out of line?
I've said this before, just because there's no law against it yet doesn't make it right.
Racism was still racism even when it was legal.
Spousal abuse was still abuse even when the "rule of thumb" was created to supposedly protect women.
If it weren't for people voicing their opinions and standing up for what they believe in, a great many things that are now illegal would still be allowed.
I have no pity for Kate Gosselin and will never see her as a victim. She's been the orchestrator of all of this since day one.
She's the only one who has the control to stop exploiting her children. And judging by the most recent (THIS WEEK) example of said exploitation in form of the People article, she has no intentions to stop.
BTW, what the heck does BV outing people have to do with this site?
Tucker's Mom said "It's a hateful word and not even Kate has ever deserved it."
And yet, there were (probably still are) websites out there devoted to calling Mady that, WHEN SHE WAS ONLY 6 YEARS OLD! AND -- it wasn't the "haterz" doing it, it was TFMJGs FANZ.
I second (3rd?4th?) what Dmasy said. I'm so over TFMJG. Half the time, I just skip over posts that are primarily about her. I stay here for the funny, wise and, occasionally, heartbreaking posts from the regulars, old and new.
I've solved the missing sock problem. I buy socks that all look alike. That way, if one disappears, I don't miss it. I did have a sock bandit for a while. One of my kittens had a sock fetish. She'd steal them out of the laundry basket, figured out how to open the dresser drawer and take them from there, and steal them off my bed when I laid fresh ones out in the morning. For a good 6 months after she went to her forever home, I was finding stray socks in the oddest places.
formerly Readerlady
itchy Pants said... 174
Tucker's Mom said "It's a hateful word and not even Kate has ever deserved it."
And yet, there were (probably still are) websites out there devoted to calling Mady that, WHEN SHE WAS ONLY 6 YEARS OLD! AND -- it wasn't the "haterz" doing it, it was TFMJGs FANZ.
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whoaaaa!
I remember seeing M being called the "b" word, which was a filthy thing to do, but never the "c" word. I thought back then that as a mother, Kate should have taken her kids off tv. This was YEARS ago.
The twins were still quite young and yeah, had a bad day here and there, but TLC went ahead and assigned one of the twins to the "brat" character.
I tend to lose socks in the winter, when I may sleep with them on. They wind up stuffed in the sheets at the bottom of the bed, then when the sheets get washed, they might show up in the washer or dryer, all by their lonesome, or sometimes migrate under the bed.
Of course, they tend to accumulate with the dust bunnies behind the washer too.
Hi Bitchy Pants, former Readerlady, just wanted to ask you if you've read "Life After Life" by Kate Atkinson. I just finished it and wondered what your take on it was if you've read it or what anyone out there thought who has read it thought.
BTW, what the heck does BV outing people have to do with this site?
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Sheri -- there were some on here very concerned that this would be the next target. That was one of the reasons for discussion; the other was because Kate sees it happening on her timeline and does nothing to stop it.
Tucker's Mom -- I checked out TFMJG's web site and had the same impression as you. Not at all user friendly. It's cluttered and uninviting and the few c/o's I checked out were either already expired or expire in the next few days. WASTE OF TIME! I use retailmenot, too, as well as store web sites and, oh the humanity! the paper c/o's we get in the Sunday papers.
formerly Readerlady
I am guessing that Skeeve's first allegiance is to TLC. He knows which side butters his bread.
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I read this as "which side butters his head." Well, who knows what he and Katie do in private? lol.
I'm still looking for coupons (back to school shopping) and I went to Retailmenot. Clicked on Target, and it brought up active coupons. What I don't understand is why, on Kate's site, it shows no coupons for Target. Either something is screwed up with her site, or she's not "scouring" hard enough!
What do you mean Kate has to work to have a coupons site? Isn't that what her friends are for, to do the actual day to day WORK? Kate's job is to mention she has a coupon site a few times in her tweets and other people are supposed to find the coupons, load up the site,
do whatever needs doing while Kate files her nails. That's what she signed up for. Oh, and any revenue that comes in, because dontchaknow that she's the only one who's going to make any money off HER site.
What do you mean Kate has to work to have a coupons site? Isn't that what her friends are for, to do the actual day to day WORK? Kate's job is to mention she has a coupon site a few times in her tweets and other people are supposed to find the coupons, load up the site,
do whatever needs doing while Kate files her nails. That's what she signed up for. Oh, and any revenue that comes in, because dontchaknow that she's the only one who's going to make any money off HER site.
Tweet -- No, I haven't read "Life After Life", but it sounds absolutely wonderful. I went over to my library's web site and put a hold on it. Thanks for the suggestion!
Speaking of books, has anyone here read "The Cuckoo's Calling" by Robert Galbraith? I'd put a hold on it before it was revealed that Galbraith is actually J. K. Rowling. My name finally came up on the list and I've nearly finished it. It's very good. Some adult language, but nothing too bad. You'd probably hear worse standing on the steps of your local Junior High, or even the Elementary school. It's not a particulary twisty mystery, but the characters are intriguing and it's well-written. If you like thrillers/hardboiled detectives, check it out. It's supposed to be the first of a planned series, and I'd read the next one willingly.
formerly Readerlady
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 34m
Wanna know what Cara and Mady's current FAVORITE coupon is at http://couponsbykate.com/ ? TOMS save $5 on a $25 purchase(&free shipping too!)!
roxana @LuceroroxLucero 13m
@Kateplusmy8 how do I look up that coupon for Toms
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Maybe Milo could help?
I love Toms but predictably, the code doesn't work.
I went to toms.com like they said, put a 48 dollar pair in my shopping cart and entered coupon code tomsfalls. Got this message: promo code tomsfalls is not valid.
I tried tomsfall just in case. No dice. I tried another suggestion from Kate's site, tomssummers. Nope.
Then I went to my trusted site retailmenot which suggested the code rmnsummertoms. You guessed it, worked on the first try! 5 bucks off, done.
This is just one reason people don't like this woman. So you get it now anonymous? She is full of empty promises and scams.
Oh by the way free shipping is standard on toms.com. You don't need a coupon for something they already offer lol!
Although I'd like to see Abby Miller on DWTS, wouldn't it be cheating in a way? She is a dance teacher with her own studio so I assume that she'd know her way around the ballroom floor. I guess it's possible that she doesn't do ballroom though. Hmmmmmm.
NJGal51 said... 187
Although I'd like to see Abby Miller on DWTS, wouldn't it be cheating in a way? She is a dance teacher with her own studio so I assume that she'd know her way around the ballroom floor. I guess it's possible that she doesn't do ballroom though. Hmmmmmm.
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I had the opposite reaction.
Wouldn't it be embarrassing if she couldn't master the moves?
Delicately speaking, of course, she's more Aretha Franklin than Shakira.
I don't watch the show, but there seems to be much enthusiasm, and for me, it's more about the attitude than the aptitude.
There has been precedent on DWTS, of stars having a HUGE advantages, like Olympic athletes and Pussy Cat Dolls.
Somehow, people manage to advance no matter their physicality.
OT, so fly by if you want.
I watched "The Little Couple" this week, and shed a few happy tears. They are so very kind to each other, their love is easy to see. And now with little Will in their family, there is even more love shown. It is such a treat to watch something so positive on TLC, as they certainly have more than their share of awful stories. I look forward to watching them every week, they make my heart happy, and it will be so interesting as time goes on, whether they will stay this way, or go down the undesirable path. Their love for little Will is such a joy to watch, how freely they give hugs and kisses, and say words of love to each other, all of the time. Such a huge difference from other t.v families! When I watch The Little Couple, I see lots of reality. Sure, some things are likely scripted, but you just can't bury the amount of reality that IS shown weekly. I wonder if they have already decided, before hand, just how long do they want to be on T.V, to have their show run for. I hope T.V does not ruin their marriage, like those who went before them. But I have the feeling that if their marriage was starting to crack, because of their show, that they would be smart enough, and hopefully love each other enough, to stop the show, and get back to the beginning, when they first fell in love, without cameras in their faces. I so want this family to succeed, and even though I love this show, I would not want them to still have their show if they were miserable, and were doing it just for the money, like those who have gone before them. I would not consider that THEIR KIDS were MY KIDS, and that I felt like I was part of their family, and could not live without seeing them on my T.V screen every week. Thank goodness they would have no money issues without the show, as they both have great careers without their show. I am excited for when they bring their little daughter home, to join their family! But unlike some of you-know-who's fans, I would not die if they were all of a sudden stopping the show. I just can't wrap my brain around some of the comments those fans make, how intrusive they are, who act like they can't live without the Gosselin kids in their lives, who need to know every detail about them. I guess my brain just isn't wired that way. Thank goodness.
Then I went to my trusted site retailmenot which suggested the code rmnsummertoms. You guessed it, worked on the first try! 5 bucks off, done.
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My favorite, too, admin. Easy to navigate, I find what I want, and I've never had a problem. Kate's...not so much.
I believe you can set up automatic tweets, so I doubt she tweets anything about the coupon site in actual time. It explains why random out of context tweets pop up from her.
Anyone know how many copies of People sold with her mug? Do they release those figures?
How long before Kate fires herself from her pathetic coupon site?
Good question Ingrid. I wonder if Kate will make public her pink slip letter explaining that Kate just didn't fit the authenticity of the brand Kate and that Kate unfortunately now part ways with Kate and Kate's staff. Sincerely, Kate.
I read this as "which side butters his head." Well, who knows what he and Katie do in private? lol.
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LOL, Virginia Pen! I wonder who is butterer and who is butteree!
Alice Mae @AliceMaeW 35m
@Kateplusmy8 for this reason I am going to go ahead and #preorder your new book! So many benis to making your own food #heathy #cheap #love
I read this as "so many penis..."
I blame it on the heat.
I hope Kate has a CA signed from Kate and Kate's staff.
Fleecing The Sheeple said...(177)
"Sheri -- there were some on here very concerned that this would be the next target. That was one of the reasons for discussion; the other was because Kate sees it happening on her timeline and does nothing to stop it."
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Ah, okay. I could only skim through comments and didn't make the connection. It just seemed so left field.
And I agree the fact that Kate doesn't do more to monitor her twitter feed is sad. Especially when it comes to the bashing of her children's father.
Sherry Baby said...(184)
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 34m
Wanna know what Cara and Mady's current FAVORITE coupon is at http://couponsbykate.com/ ? TOMS save $5 on a $25 purchase(&free shipping too!)!
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Wanna see my kids' poop? Wanna watch them throw up? Wanna see them cry and ask their Daddy why he isn't coming home?
Wanna see my kids? Wanna know what THEY use coupons for?
It'll only cost you hits to MY website, following ME on Twitter, buying MY cookbook, getting ME on the cover of People...
I swear the woman knows no shame.
Six months, maybe nine. That's how long Kate's coupon site will last. Especially with all the invalid coupons. Can't say that I really care, though...I use Retailmenot or Coupon Cabin, and won't give her site the hits.
Golly gee, I hope some anonymous poster doesn't accuse me of taking food out of Kate's kids' mouths. I might lose sleep over that.
Why would a 12 year old be clipping coupons anyway? Shouldn't that be something only adults are concerned with? I don't think a child should be burdened with trying to save money on essentials like shoes.
I think she's taking food out of Tom's workers mouths since she's providing bogus coupons and now people won't buy.
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