Mona said... 199 What is triggering the spike in sales this month? ---------------------------- TFW's contract appearances where she includes book sales into the contract. (i.e. I will show up to the Katie Show, but you have to purchase books for the audience.)
Mona said... 199 What is triggering the spike in sales this month? ------------------- Katie Couric show buying enough copies to provide one to every audience member. Bethanny's show probably doing the same. Same at Canadian show. That would be my guess.
I watched the Inside Edition interview with Kate. She seemed annoyed one minute and then angry the next. Her eyes rarely looked at the interviewer. She was looking off to the side constantly. What's up with that? It's like she wants to be on TV but interviewed. Could she have possibly been high on something.
I really don't get Kate. She gets on Twitter for a few minutes at a time and when she shows up, people jump on and ask about times and places of her signings and she disappears.
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 21m ��RT @YBarto13: @Kateplusmy8 tried the D8 Oatmeal Cookie recipe today!My dad loves them! Great recipe! #LoveIsInTheMix pic.twitter.com/CC2VKATt9G
ANGChick8-14-2013 @YBarto13 18m That moment when @Kateplusmy8 RT's your pic! Any book signings happening in the Granite State? Aka New Hampshire? Would Love to go! #603
Kristine kaplan @kristine_kaplan 17m @Kateplusmy8 Where can we find a list of your upcoming book signings- I live 30 minutes from you in Pottsville - lunch? I'll buy... Lol
I guess I just can't quite fathom how she can be so constantly rude to her fans. She's on a book tour and won't answer fans questions about it. Damn, she's frustrating.
Does anything supersede a confidentiality agreement? I am of the opinion there are a lot of witnesses who seem unfairly bound by the nondisclosure agreements they signed. How far reaching is the agreement to keep sensitive information confidential? What if the restraints of the agreement become a burden on ones moral and religious beliefs? What if they feel there was abuse of any kind? Are they still bound?
Depending on the promotion of a book signing of a specific author, some books may be ordered based on the speculation of a publisher that many books will be sold. Often that is not the case, though the returns don't seem to ever be reflected as a negative in the sale amount.
When my husband does a book signing, either he (via copies he has ordered at reduced cost) arrives at a the bookstore signing with copies of the book and keeps the "profit" or the store orders a certain number of books available to be bought, which unsold can be returned. Believe me, when he tells the local book stores that unsold copies can be returned they are euphoric and very interested in him conducting signings. Additionally after a signing, he always leaves behind one signed copy of his book (at his cost) that the bookstore can sell as a signed copy. Good will goes a long way!
In the back of my mind, I had Joe as being part of the murder after the priest turned over Tommy's smashed computer to DCI Hardy and informed Hardy he contacted both sets of parents a few months earlier about a fight he had to break up between Tommy and Danny. But when Hardy asked DC Miller if the priest contacted her about the fight she said no. I thought, okay why didn't your husband tell you. So I got suspicious of her husband but I still wasn't sure. It was a great series.
I went to our local B&N today and there were six copies of TFW's cookbook on the shelf. When I went there last week there were five. Either they found one floating around the stockroom and stuck it up there or there was a return (gasp!).
Well, this is a new one. This person has tweeted over 300 celebrities asking for donations, from jewelry, clothing, shoes (specified her size). I wonder how many of them bite.
Peggy @clevelandmomof1 3h @Kateplusmy8 Just checking around to see if you had any clothes/items you don't use to donate? Let me know..:-)
Floyd M haynes @haynesfloydm 4h Kate Gosselin - Kate Gosselin Photo (21228273) - Fanpop fanclubs http://shar.es/KcUrC via @sharethis Kate sure has some gogious legs
I have been trying to catch up on my reading, but I just can't get ahead of the onslaught!
Forgive me if this has already been mentioned, but I'm here to weigh in about the book signing as a former B&N employee:
Locations hosting the signings order waaaayyy more books than they expect to sell that night. It always looks nice to have huge stacks of the book on display during and leading up to the signing. There would probably be a table prominently displayed with a large poster advertising the signing and 50-100 copies of the new book, as well as copies of previous books. Since TFW's new book is from a completely different publisher than the first three, I'm not sure this would be the case this time. There would be a huge poster with a photo of the book at the front of the store, with more copies nearby. Finally, several carts in the back room would be loaded with more books ready to be wheeled out if anything appeared to be running low. Book stores do NOT want to run out of product at a signing! At the end of the event, the author would probably sign extra copies (about 10 or so) for the hosting store to put on display to sell with a cute little sticker announcing that it is an exclusive autographed copy.
Extra copies of the book get shipped back to the publisher, usually the next day as stores don't have storage space for extra books. The "back room" everyone talks about is the manager's office, a break room/cloak room for the employees, and basically a loading dock where shipments are received, sorted onto shelving carts, or processed for returns. Hence TFW's hiding-in-the-janitor-closet episode. Sorry, no warehouse full of books hiding back there! TFW, and by extension, Steve, should know this as they have done MULTIPLE B&N book signings in the past. The posters advertising the signings are taken down by the end of the day, and usually the employees have dibs or a drawing or something to take certain ones home, maybe even signed by the author after the event. I guess an author could take the posters home, but I personally never saw one do it. Maybe none of the employees even wanted it?
As for "settling up with the cashier," I have no idea what this means. I have never witnessed this at other events, unless she bought something?
Also, I have never been told to check to see if the customers in line at a singing specifically have a B&N receipt, let alone one for that exact day!! I always bought books for signings at least several days in advance to be sure I had what I wanted and didn't need to scramble the day of an event to get it, especially if I was working at said event and knew I wouldn't have time.
I would be interested to hear from the booksellers on duty if she was nice to them, even if they are only mediocre retail workers.
I'm 500 comments behind and I may just have to call it futile and start fresh on the next post.
Thanks Admin for googling that Sunset Boulevard. I had done the same thing but could only find snippets. I watched enough tho to get the jist. If its a fictional movie, someone was foreshadowing a certain former wife, we all know :)
So Jon made it onto the view?!?!? Will have to go watch that Clip.
As someone said up thread, this certainly was not a Book Tour, was it? Even that Kim Weiss said it might not seem like the tv clip was about the book considering the title, but she comments the book does get talked about a few minutes in.
With TFW's tweet about going anywhere happily that HCI arranges for her, kind of sounds like they foot the bill?!??! Its gets more and more bizarre.
Gosselinbook is hitting the media people about not taking responsibility for the welfare of the kids, if they knew they were being abused, and links to cases of people being charged for spanking with a spoon.!
Jon's been off the show now for what, 3 or so years? Why couldn't he get an IT job in this period of time. THe law suit was only filed last month.
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I believe he was doing IT work for a bit, wasn't that what he was doing for Game Center or whatever it was, in addition to promotion and other contract work? All of that involves IT skills.
Also Kate has been peddling this hacking nonsense for over two years. A month ago was not the first time it was brought up. It's been going on and on, there was that whole thing with Hailey and her texts about it, this is not our first rodeo. That's what the whole Statute of Limitations was about because she had been talking about this for years, thus Tuma was saying she blew the SOL by waiting so long to file.
Even so I think even if that's a bit of hyperbole, I almost think he was making fun of her. In other words, it goes both ways. If you're going to say whatever I did prevents you from jobs then I can say what you're doing prevents me from jobs. I almost thought he might have just been making fun of how ridiculous she sounds when she says that.
I believe he was doing IT work for a bit, wasn't that what he was doing for Game Center or whatever it was, in addition to promotion and other contract work? All of that involves IT skills.
**So why did he say that he couldn't find work then? Odd.
I almost think he was making fun of her. In other words, it goes both ways. If you're going to say whatever I did prevents you from jobs then I can say what you're doing prevents me from jobs.
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Very much so. It's War of the Roses, like I said. It's kind of funny though, and it is nice to see TFW finally get a taste of her own medicine. She does just fine when she controls the war. When someone actually fights back she's a mess. It's low-brow entertainment guilty pleasure popcorn style stuff this is. I'd expect nothing less from reality stars. Still, I wouldn't expect anyone no matter how mature to put up with her as long as he has before finally saying screw it two can play at this game. And boy is he ever playing her, this is a chess match.
Weren't the kids in school today? Jon could have been back home in a matter of hours, well in time for the bus stop pickup. NYC actually isn't that far from them.
I believe Game Center was well before TFW really ramped up the "Jon is a hacker" nonsense. That was on full speed ahead about six months ago and never stopped from there.
Oh not sure if this was mentioned but I also noticed he mentioned he worked 16 hour days. I think what he's doing to get back on his feet is something a lot of people can relate to right now. Lots of people are doing the two job thing (localyocal included, right?), lots of people have had to work very very hard at jobs that are very demanding like in restaurants. What he's doing right now is really brilliant in terms of winning people to his side. Like we talked about a few days ago TFW represents the old way, how we used to live. Lavish, lazy, on credit. The way Jon's living is very much more in line with how we live now, and thus that easily translates into "team Jon" viewers.
Are you saying you think Jon drove them to the bus stop this morning and was home by dinner time? Man, I sure hope so.
While these two dummies are busy playing tit for tat, there's 8 children to attend to.
I personally hope Jon stops this interview business after today. He did well, got all the info out that he needed to and now needs to step away from the cameras.
Let Kate continue putting her foot in her mouth. I think Jon looks the better parent if he quietly goes home and takes care of the kids while Kate continues on her 'Believe ME' ridiculousness.
Oh, I don't think Jon was just saying that at all. I think he meant every word of it, and I believe he's speaking the truth,
Let's say that I had a background in banking. A rumor was swirling around that I had committed bank fraud, but no charges had yet been filed. I go looking for a job in the banking industry. Will anyone hire me? Probably not, because my record has now been tainted. The bank does not want to walk into problems with its eyes half opened.
It's not like racial or gender discrimination. You can't not hire a person solely for their religion, sex or race. But you sure can not hire a person about whom there is some question of honesty and/or reliability in your field of business.
No company would want a man accused of wiretapping and hacking working as an IT person. The CUSTOMERS would raise the roof in protest.
I think Jon was spot on. And he's still a guy I'd love to go have a glass of iced tea with. I said that years ago.
AuntieAnn, do you have a special book with sayings that make me nearly p my p's?!! You are always so very funny! Maryland, who cares if Jon is getting bald? Bald men are very sexy! Jon can refill this cougars water glass anytime:)
Remona Blue said... ... there is no way on God's green earth that TFMJG would allow Jon to give his children 80% while SHE got 10%.
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Good point, Remona! Darn that Jon; he clarified many things today, but left us scratching our heads about this. Oh well, we'll be able to speculate about and discuss this for years though. lol
Totally agree that it's time for Barbara to retire. She cannot keep up and is extremely rude!!
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In all seriousness, Barbara really couldn't seem to understand what was going on. Even after it was explained there are twins and sextuplets she still seemed confused. How old is she now?
Sarah said... Does anything supersede a confidentiality agreement?
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We've talked about that here in the past. CAs are void in court, so any of the people who worked for TLC and J&K and signed one could not be held to the agreement if they're called to give a deposition and/or testify in court. Thinking of the nannies, babysitters, camera crews, producers, etc., I wonder if TFW's attorneys have discussed this pesky little detail with her yet. lol
I'm blanking on the term from contract law but basically you can't make a contract that violates basic human decency or law. For instance, you can't make a confidentiality contract that says that if your boss commits murder you're not allowed to say anything or be sued for breaking confidentiality. Same for child abuse. It's on the tip of my tongue and will prob come to me in the middle of the night.
Maryland's girl You call Jon childish and ridiculous in one post and bust on him being bald in the next. That's when I stop taking anything you say seriously. I hate hypocrites.
Summer Days And Nights said... 27 http://www.showbizspy.com/article/262118/kate-gosselin-angry-with-jon-gosselin-over-use-of-gun.html#mZ44XHYi2Mt7qPTO.99
“She is saying she’s dumbfounded that Jon didn’t just call 911 to report the trespasser."
Dumfounded? No, she's just plain dumb. Call 911? Oh, sure. He had no idea who this person was, he warned her, she persisted, he pulled out his gun, she still persisted. What was he supposed to say, "Could you hold on a minute while I call 911? Cops will be here in about 15 minutes. In the meantime, want to come in for a cup of coffee and a doughnut?"
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Well, according to Jon, he did give his unknown trespasser a WRITTEN warning before firing his gun. I would love for someone to explain how THAT went down. Did he walk up to his unknown potential assailant and hand her a note, then decide that she was an imminent threat and fire his warning shot?
Come on, people. If Kate went on national television and claimed that she gave someone trespassing on her property a written warning before firing a gun, you would be having a field day with it and rightly so. However, since Jon said something so utterly ridiculous, you're just letting it slide.
Genuine, that's all I can say about Jon's interview.
I find it strange that the View's message boar doesn't have one post about Jon? I've scrolled down pretty far, am I missing it? Every time tfw was on, there were tons.
Yes BaBa WaWa is getting up there in years. She has had a very long and successful career. Especially in a field dominated by men. However her attitude is off-putting. She comes off as the ultimate authority and is very snobbish. I've heard that she plans on retiring next year.
Weren't the kids in school today? Jon could have been back home in a matter of hours, well in time for the bus stop pickup. NYC actually isn't that far from them. __________________________
Kate must have gone home yesterday after taping because she tweeted this last night:
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 11h Playing an odd but fun game w my 6 using mini pool balls,called 'bubble gum in a dish' They made it up&play it dramatic/game show style #hm
"The most unexpected and disappointing thing is who was at the center of it," Kate told Today's Savannah Guthrie.
As for the suit against Jon, Kate said, "It has to be done for the safety and the future of my kids." ************************************************************************************
I am convinced she is behind the pap pursuing Jon. I think she realized that even if Jon is guilty of hacking, wiretapping etc, it's ludicrous to say that it jeopardizes their safety. (eye roll) She had to up the ante, she had to make it APPEAR that their safety is in question when they're "visiting" with him. With the book coming out she's trying to make his behavior outdo her beatings. "see? at least I never pulled out a gun!"
I wouldn't put it past TFW to have her 'people' contact Jon's jobs with her nasty insinuations, thus making sure that he can't hold a job, making him look like a deadbeat dad, her top priority in life.
You know, the same way the pap gets contacted to meet her at the grocery store. Carrier pidgeon, I think.
After thinking about it, I believe Jon was lying when he said 80% of the money earned while he was still filming was saved for the kids. That was when they bought the million dollar house..how did they do that, and live as large as they were, on just 20% of what they earned? Also, when Murr changed PA laws to better protect the Gosselin kids, didn't they say that work permits had never been gotten for all of those years of filming, and that not one penny had been saved in the kids' name? And after that law, they then began, or were forced to, save 15% for the kids? Steve was made the guardian of that money, so if anyone thinks Kate had no control over it, they better think again. I bet there is next to nothing left in those accounts.
Does anyone know where to find the ratings for a show? I was curious to see how Bethenny's ratings were as her show is on at the same time as The Today Show (with Hoda and Kathie Lee) and The View.
"I believe he was doing IT work for a bit, wasn't that what he was doing for Game Center or whatever it was, in addition to promotion and other contract work? All of that involves IT skills." Earlier this year, Jon stated that if his work hours didn't mesh with his visitation with the kids, then he would merely quit that job, as the kids were more important, and that there were always jobs out there. So maybe he went though a lot of the local companies, and has a reputation for quitting , and that is why he can no longer find IT work?
Any one notice the hollowness of WOS’s cheeks in the Inside Edition interview? They filmed her from her right side so it was more obvious, I guess. When she talked, you could see her cheeks seem to sink in when she talked. You don’t see it unless she is talking. You don’t really see a woman’s cheeks move that much or give that appearance except my mom, who is in her 70’s.
PDMan said... 52 Speaking as someone that has worked in the IT field, it's a 24-hour-a-day gig. Even when you're not in the office, you're on call. Even if it's 3am.
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Agree. Been there done that. I'm sure TFW gave him no slack when it was time for his custody and he had to work late.......
If you watch the tail end of the video of The View (on the ABC website) you will see that as the credits roll, Jon is clearly engaging in conversation with both Whoopie and Jenny. I also watched the part in question where Jenny may have dissed Jon. I'm of the opinion that Jenny said "Thanks for being a great dad, or I'll have to kick your butt.'. It sounded weird but I definately heard "Thanks for..." as she looked at him.
One thing I noticed about Jon, when he spoke, he made eye contact. Kate rarely does this, she's always looking off to the side, as if it find approval. Jon doesn't roll his eyes, huff, twitch or fidget like Kate does. The only thing is that you could tell he was either a bit nervous or wanted to get as much information out there in the short amount of time that he had, because he spoke rather quickly. But he was succinct and articulate, and gave actually answers instead of alluding to things in an incoherent way.
Earlier this year, Jon stated that if his work hours didn't mesh with his visitation with the kids, then he would merely quit that job, as the kids were more important, and that there were always jobs out there. So maybe he went though a lot of the local companies, and has a reputation for quitting , and that is why he can no longer find IT work? ******************************************************************************* From Round Table: I imagine in your situation, people would say, Jon can’t hold a job?
"Yeah, they would say that because our mentality is job first then family instead of family first then job. That’s the advantage I had on reality television. I could spend time with my kids. It’s hard to get out of that mentality now because I have to go to work but what’s more important? There were times I left work from New Jersey, drove 5 hours to the school to pick up my sick kid, and kept them all day because my former wife was out of town and I was the emergency contact. To me it’s more important to be there for your children. You have to be there, always. Your job, if they don’t understand, then they don’t really care about you as an employee. Some people are, ‘Well, you know…’ there is no ‘well’ in my life. It’s family first, career, then the rest. I have had enough courage to say I’m leaving. I don’t even think about. ****************************************************************************
Is this what you're referring to Winsesome? Doesn't sound like he said he merely quit his jobs and that there were tons of other ones out there.
I think Jon said he put 80% of his part of the divorce settlement into a trust for the kids and this is why he is broke and implying that is why Kate is NOT broke. I could be wrong but that was my impression.
Earlier this year, Jon stated that if his work hours didn't mesh with his visitation with the kids, then he would merely quit that job, as the kids were more important, and that there were always jobs out there.
I remember him saying that, too, and thinking at the time...true, but having a job so you can support yourself, and thus them, is the most important thing.
Although, like the poster above, I can see TFW not cutting him any slack if he had to work on his custodial time and then telling the kids, 'See! Daddy doesn't care about you! He only cares about himself!'
I do have to say that the attitude of 'I'll just quit if it doesn't meet my needs this exact minute' seems a little...I don't know....lacadaisical? irresponsible? not good for your reputation?
"Is this what you're referring to Winsesome? Doesn't sound like he said he merely quit his jobs and that there were tons of other ones out there."
No, that is not the interview where he said there were always jobs out there. At the time I was thinking maybe there are lots of jobs in your area, but not where I live. Also, he said the work place had to accommodate his schedule with the kids, or he would just quit. At the time, people here said that sounded good, to put your kids first, but that most kids like to eat, and if you don't have a job, then it becomes hard to feed them.
Vanessa at 41 ~Re comments about Jon's segment on The View's FB page: Look to your right, under "Recent Posts By Others on The View." Scroll down...there are several entries, all posted within the last 24 hours.
jen said... 56 Not all IT jobs are the on-call variety.
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I believe Jon has stated he's a Microsoft Certified System Engineer. I would assume MCSEs support business systems. If his company is supporting a client's systems and their critical server goes down at 3:00am and they pay for 24 hour support, you need to go in at 3:00am.
Jon's interview is posted on The View website in recent appearance (top row) and it's about 5 minutes.I thought he presented himself well and made a few good points about his time spent with the kids and clearing up the fact that he does 'support' them They did not allow him to finish the gun story about the safety and legality of having a firearm which I think would have helped his 'case' with the public.
and clearing up the fact that he does 'support' them
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It was kind of refreshing that he didn't understand what Barbara meant when she asked does he support them. Because "support" is more than just dollars, as TFW would have us believe. And that's the difference between TFW and him. She can only think in terms of dollars and points. His thinking goes beyond that.
Jon spoke pretty fast, he had a lot to say in a very short time, but you look into his eyes and they are alive. They smile, they show emotion, they make eye contact. His former wife has bitter, dead, shark eyes to go with her bitter, dead soul. He wins by a landslide.
Also, when Murr changed PA laws to better protect the Gosselin kids, didn't they say that work permits had never been gotten for all of those years of filming, and that not one penny had been saved in the kids' name?
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No, he never said that. He said not one penny had ever been paid directly to the children at that point. That doesn't mean Kate and/or Jon couldn't have put aside their payments for the children. TLC said in fact that was the intention, that it is up to the parents to decide that from the lump sums given to the parents.
We have never gotten a clear answer how much or little was saved for the children. It's been a mystery forever.
Also, when Murr changed PA laws to better protect the Gosselin kids, didn't they say that work permits had never been gotten for all of those years of filming, and that not one penny had been saved in the kids' name? And after that law, they then began, or were forced to, save 15% for the kids? Steve was made the guardian of that money, so if anyone thinks Kate had no control over it, they better think again. I bet there is next to nothing left in those accounts.
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I don't remember that being the case. During the hearings it was noted that there had been money set aside for the kids all along, but the new laws made it mandatory, with the specific amount required, according to Rep Murt and the DOL. Where was it reported that Steve was made the guardian of the money? Are you talking about before or after the new laws, because after the new law went into effect Steve had nothing to do with that fund.
Come on, people. If Kate went on national television and claimed that she gave someone trespassing on her property a written warning before firing a gun, you would be having a field day with it and rightly so. However, since Jon said something so utterly ridiculous, you're just letting it slide.
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The written was obviously a no trespass sign which in my neck of the woods are big and red and you can't miss them.
I would fully support TFW's right to use a firearm against any paparazzi who hunted her down all the way to her front door. Someone provided a link to a list of celebrities who have firearms and Angelina Jolie said yup I have one too and I won't hesitate to use it if anyone comes after my family and children. There would be no field day. Support it 100%. Maybe it's my upbringing, maybe it's living in a rural area and understanding the cops can't get there quickly, maybe it's understanding how many celebs have died at the hands of crazed stalkers, but I support a man or woman's right to pull their gun on anyone who comes after them onto their own property, period.
That restaurant said Kate's attorneys had contacted them. They have no reason to lie about that. I can't think of a single good reason on planet earth they would have to do that, especially when attorneys are not permitted to talk to another attorney's client. Calling their workplace is flirting with direct contact. What if he picked up the phone himself?
I think Rep Murt's point all along is that it's all well and good to pay the parents but they cannot be trusted to save and even if they are saving who is to say they won't dip into it later? It's happened many times. This is what happened to Missy Francis. Her mom was actually pretty militant about putting her money aside. For awhile. Then times got tough and Mom dipped in a little here a little there and before she knew it that trust account was falling so fast Missy didn't know what hit her. Missy had to steal her checks right out of the mailbox so her mother wouldn't touch it.
Murt's push was to pay the children directly and have a portion of it go into an irrevocable trust that couldn't be touched by the parents. That is the safest way to protect their money.
He never accused Jon and Kate of not saving for their kids. I'm not sure how he would know that without asking them to disclose their financial statements, which he has no power to do. He simply said it's very scary that they are not FORCED to save for them and that all parents should be forced/mandated to save because you can't trust them. I hope to God at least one of them has saved their money because that's a heck of a lot of money over the years and with interest could be even more.
That's another thing I never understood from a PR standpoint. I think TFW should not have stuck TLC's lobby on this to stop the bill. I think TFW's best play would have been to support it.
She could have easily spun it like, WE save for our kids and we protect OUR kids and OUR set is completely safe, and I fully support any law that makes the protections WE have already put into place the law for EVERYONE who may not do what we do.
" I don't remember that being the case. During the hearings it was noted that there had been money set aside for the kids all along, but the new laws made it mandatory, with the specific amount required, according to Rep Murt and the DOL. Where was it reported that Steve was made the guardian of the money? Are you talking about before or after the new laws, because after the new law went into effect Steve had nothing to do with that fund."
I don't remember when it was said that Steve was the kids' guardian, or the keeper of their funds, but I do remember at the time, how everyone here thought that was really strange, and wondered why Jon went along with this.
Most wonder how Kate's 6 fans can love her like they do, and think she can do no wrong, and also feel she is just beautiful. After reading here the past few days, are some people doing the same thing with Jon? Thinking he can do no wrong, and is handsome, etc?, because they like him? Now I am better able to understand Kate's fans thinking I guess..if you like someone, they can do little wrong, and are prefect in most ways. I hope that reasoning about Jon doesn't become too prevalent, or we will be no better than Kate's fans. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder for sure.
The written was obviously a no trespass sign which in my neck of the woods are big and red and you can't miss them.
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Of course. I seriously doubt that he pulled out a pencil and paper and wrote out "You are trespassing, please leave." Who would think to do that at a time when he felt threatened? He most likely called her attention to the posted signs.
Jon's wrongs have been pointed out here ad nauseum.
There's a difference between thinking someone can do no wrong, and moving on from things that occurred years and years ago and giving someone who has proven themselves the benefit of the doubt. I don't think there is a single person here who thinks Jon isn't a very flawed human being, like all of us. If Kate would stop her nonsense and work to prove herself like Jon did, I always said I would change my tune.
"I think Jon said he put 80% of his part of the divorce settlement into a trust for the kids and this is why he is broke and implying that is why Kate is NOT broke. I could be wrong but that was my impression."
Thanks for the... "memory", Exterior Designer. That's what I thought I remembered reading about too. I think it was discussed here, -or maybe on GOP, I'm not sure-, and it had something to do with Jon finding a way to secure the money away from TFW's greedy little hands. People did speculate that the money you put away in an account for your children is not your money anymore, so it can't be used as CS, aka financing your ex-spouse's lifestyle of unnecessary personal luxury and crass lazyness.
And in fairness to Kate, you know what? That was money earned in the marriage and belonged to both of them equally even if his name was on the paycheck. She would have had every right to stop him if she had a problem with him socking away 80% of his money or their money. As far as I know that never happened. It would be nice if she would disclose what she did to protect them and what she supports (she always seems to spin it that there is no money or little money, except for that time she spun it like oh we have tons of it, so who knows), but we do know that it would have been very easy for her to stop him from doing that.
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 3m Dear @MiloandJack &my other southern Twitter friends, is Baltimore 2 far of a road trip 4 you? #Iwanttomeetmyfriendsdownsouth #andothers2
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Careful what you wish for, Kate! And no way will Milo come--not even with a personalized public invitation from the WOS herself!
Kate must be desperate to make sure she has some interest in Baltimore.
People did speculate that the money you put away in an account for your children is not your money anymore, so it can't be used as CS, aka financing your ex-spouse's lifestyle of unnecessary personal luxury and crass lazyness.
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You know from a financial standpoint this actually makes a heck of a lot of sense.
There is no accounting for child support in PA. If she wants to spend it on manicures she can. So if he socks it all away into an irrevocable trust all of a sudden there's no money for child support for Kate to spend on herself and he just let himself fall into arrears. Too bad so sad. It almost sounds like Kate finally just gave up on trying to get it out of him when the child support thing was dropped. He's not going to give her a dime more than what the children need for themselves and she finally gave up on it. I would rather the children's money be given to them that way then given directly to Kate where she'll probably blow it all. THIS explains why she's so, so, so bitter about money. Jon found a legal way to sock the money away from her and still get it to the kids and she's ticked.
Wendy Williams and a gal who writes a celeb blog were just discussing Jon Gosselin. I am home and putting off a chore I need to do and that is why I turned on the tv....oh who cares, so I watched Wendy Williams...lol Her guest, (Chloe?) explained how Jon cannot work in IT with these wire-tapping, identity theft, and computer hacking charges levied against him. It is quite obvious Wendy and her guest were pro Jon. Audience applause..... :) Jon is likable, genuine, sincere. Pointed out as well he is working at 2 restaurants. The day of the gun incident he was headed home from work to change and then pick up is kids from school. The paparazzi would not leave after he asked her to and there are warning signs posted on the property.
But, of course, if Milo DOES show, her unveiling will be just as momentous as when Willy Wonka emerged from the cloistered Chocolate Factory. Maybe Milo will even throw down her cane and do a somersault like Gene Wilder did, hehehe.
No, he never said that. He said not one penny had ever been paid directly to the children at that point. That doesn't mean Kate and/or Jon couldn't have put aside their payments for the children. TLC said in fact that was the intention, that it is up to the parents to decide that from the lump sums given to the parents. _____________
When the divorce papers were filed ROL immediately put the divorce papers on their site. I remember that clearly. They put them up so quickly that they didn't blank out certain things such as Jon's phone number. Also at the very bottom of the document there was an email included for some reason. It was an email from someone at Kate's bank saying that per Kate's request the transfers for the eleven accounts had been done.
There was an account for Jon, one for Kate, and a household account which both Jon and Kate could access and it was to be used for paying bills. That left 8 accounts which I assumed were the accounts for the kids. Of course, there is no way of knowing how much was in any of the accounts. I was always curious what kind of transferring of money was going on by Kate right at the time she filed those divorce papers. I'm sure we'll never know.
I understand what you're trying to say but I don't blindly follow and promise to support people 'no matter what'. I like Jon. I think he's a great dad and is trying to to the right thing for his kids. Believe me, if he ever does anything to to make me think differently then that's it. He won't get my support. There have been many people I've been a fan of but when their behavior crosses the line then that's it for me. Some examples....Mel Gibson, Bethanny Frankel, Barbara Walters, Arnold S. ...etc.
Well, according to Jon, he did give his unknown trespasser a WRITTEN warning before firing his gun. I would love for someone to explain how THAT went down. _______ I'd say it probably went down like this.
As she drove onto the property where Jon resides, there was a sign (usually rather large print so people notice them) that said NO TRESPASSING. Some even have VIOLATORS WILL BE PROSECUTED under the NO TRESPASSING part.
I would guess Kate probably has these same signs (written warnings) outside her property. If not, she should.
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 15m Dear @MiloandJack &my other southern Twitter friends, is Baltimore 2 far of a road trip 4 you? #Iwanttomeetmyfriendsdownsouth #andothers2 ________________
Can you believe this tweet?? A road trip. Yeah, I'd guess that would be a little difficult to organize and get to by tonight or tomorrow. She is such a phony b*tch.
Believe me, if he ever does anything to to make me think differently then that's it. He won't get my support.
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Exactly. I still don't fully trust him, all due respect. He's still on the banner. I always cringe when I hear he's doing an interview. I cringe when he says things like he's open to the children filming, even if I think he probably said that to try to calm Kate down. I think the job thing is an ongoing problem and that he's been far too picky about it and moved around too much, though I don't know the whole story. But these are nitpicks that I don't see as that significant in the grand scheme of things. I think he is the kids' only hope of a normal childhood. But it's a "hope". I'm not assured it's a promise yet. I'll support anyone who I think is really trying, overall, to do the right thing by these children, and if they ever stop trying to do the right thing I won't support them anymore. I don't agree with each and every single choice nor do I think you're required to agree with every single choice to like someone overall. I don't think we'd have any friends at all if we're required to support each and every single thing our friends ever did.
If her fans could be assured she'll stay longer than 25 minutes, spend time with them, and not rush off to a utility closet 20 minutes in, they might be more willing to fork over their hard earned dollars to make such a trip.
Lauren @ljohnson2006 12m @Kateplusmy8 Will you post your book tour schedule on your website? #LoveIsInTheMIx
Um, Lauren, honestly, I think the tour is almost over! If she didn't publish it before Staten Island and Paramus, and with onlyToronto and Baltimore left, I doubt if she's going to do it now! Sheeple are funny!
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 18m Dear @MiloandJack &my other southern Twitter friends, is Baltimore 2 far of a road trip 4 you? #Iwanttomeetmyfriendsdownsouth #andothers2
Let's hear how Gladys answers this one!
Fans are still asking her when she's coming to cities near them. I have never seen a book tour NOT promoted like this one has been. What in the heck was she thinking?
Berks Neighbour said....57 But he was succinct and articulate, and gave actually answers instead of alluding to things in an incoherent way. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Yes, given a chance to speak without being mocked by TWF, Jon is proving to be the articulate one. TWF's responses are getting harder to understand. She seldom completes a thought...expects everyone to know and understand her situation and fill in the blanks. It's not working.
I seem to remember that after the divorce Jon put money in a fund for the kids that neither of them can touch. When he talks about putting 80% away for them I believe this is what he's talking about...money HE put aside for HIS kids' futures. The 15% that TFW was forced to set aside is in an account that she can tap in to for health, education, etc. Two different accounts.
As far as the whole writing warning thing, when there are "no trespassing" and/or "no trespassing violators will be prosecuted" signes posted, it is considered to be written warning. Wat Jon needs to say is that the pap was given written warning by virtue of the fact that there are no trespassing signs posted.
TFW when she speaks mostly teases, speaks in innuendos and hints, and says things that could have multiple meanings.
I think she doesn't understand that speaking in a clear manner and saying exactly what you mean is not only much easier to listen to, but infinitely less annoying.
So funny, Jon has the gift of gab far more than she does.
capecodmomma said: But when Hardy asked DC Miller if the priest contacted her about the fight she said no. I thought, okay why didn't your husband tell you. So I got suspicious of her husband but I still wasn't sure. It was a great series. ****** Yes, that raised a red flag with me. Your son gets in a fight with his best friend, the priest tells you about it, but you don't tell your wife when you are each sharing about your day? That's something that parents would normally discuss with each other - a fight at school.
Although they had me suspecting Nige for quite a while! Or perhaps his biological mother. Great series!
Thanks for the answers concerning my question on confidentiality agreements. I am new here so if this was discussed previously I was not aware of it, sorry. :) Last I will ask about it. I understand an illegal contract, as in asking an employee to turn their head the other day when a crime is committed would not hold up in court. If the restriction of "non disclosure" was too much for her conscience because she witnessed things (after signing) she felt were morally wrong, and she broke her silence can she be sued? Maybe with extenuating circumstances the monetary reward in a suit to the holder of the contract would be very small.
Thank you Turtle Logic and other book industry insiders for sharing info on how book signings usually work.
Re the comments on how Kate appeared during several interviews - I wondered if she was on a prescribed drug of some kind. In at least two of the clips I watched (she's wearing that orangy dress), she has what I call sleepy eyes. Perhaps its some type of anti-anxiety medication? That would make sense.
If the restriction of "non disclosure" was too much for her conscience because she witnessed things (after signing) she felt were morally wrong, and she broke her silence can she be sued? Maybe with extenuating circumstances the monetary reward in a suit to the holder of the contract would be very small.
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She could sue, but there's not a judge in the land that is going to stick their neck out and say you can't disclose child abuse and other misdeeds per your confidentiality contract.
Confidentiality contracts are supposed to keep people from blabbing juicy details about divorce and finances and whereabouts and house layouts and baby fathers and egg donors and other private tidbits that violate a celeb's right to privacy. They were not designed to help the celeb cover up bad behavior.
Sorry for repeating what you said. I was reading from the top and didn't see your response.
I don't know about anywhere else, but in IN landowners usually don't bother with a verbal warning. They figure if you're dumb enough to enter posted property, you aren't going to listen when they kindly ask you to leave.
It's funny how a firing a few shots in the air helps people read better. Who needs phonics? :-)
Too funny. If you type in TFW's name into google, the second auto-fill search that comes up is "Kate Gosselin How She Fooled The World". Go Robert! :)
Oh and I was trying to Google her inside edition interview. I don't watch her interviews, but after everyone mentioning how she seemed like she was drunk, I figured I have to watch a little bit of it!
Well, according to Jon, he did give his unknown trespasser a WRITTEN warning before firing his gun. I would love for someone to explain how THAT went down. Did he walk up to his unknown potential assailant and hand her a note, then decide that she was an imminent threat and fire his warning shot? ***** I believe the written warning is signs Jon has on his property such as "No Trespassing" and the like. He may also have a sign saying "Trespassers May be Shot" (I've seen such signs on country properties before). That would constitute the written warning portion.
I don't know about anywhere else, but in IN landowners usually don't bother with a verbal warning. They figure if you're dumb enough to enter posted property, you aren't going to listen when they kindly ask you to leave.
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Same here.
It was not unheard of for someone to shoot at a trespasser even without a warning. The ole shoot them a few feet from their boots trick.
When I was growing up I remember my parents explaining about posted and no trespassing signs and how serious it was. You were taught from an early age a healthy respect for those signs and to turn your little hiney around right away if you ever see them. I guess that's partly why I find this incident so shocking that someone would disrespect a clear sign like that. The law of the land in rural areas is you do NOT ignore such signs.
There is also a fear, and those who are in rural areas know this, of walking onto a wooded property like that and being mistaken for a deer and shot. Quite frankly that was a bigger concern than anything. There are also other dangers. People snowmobiling and not seeing you, off-road vehicles, heavy farm machinery. All kinds of dangers. You don't mess around on private property, period.
Is this what you're referring to Winsesome? Doesn't sound like he said he merely quit his jobs and that there were tons of other ones out there. ******* Thanks for the quote. People read what they want to read, hear what they want to hear. I guess for some, that quote translated into "I quit jobs whenever I feel like it."
"I believe Jon has stated he's a Microsoft Certified System Engineer. I would assume MCSEs support business systems. If his company is supporting a client's systems and their critical server goes down at 3:00am and they pay for 24 hour support, you need to go in at 3:00am."
That's assuming he's responsible for server maintenance. I work in IT (as a systems engineer) and I am not on call 24/7. Most of my coworkers are not either. If a server goes down that affects a large number of users, then of course there are those who would have to be available to take action (this does not happen very often). But it's simply not accurate to say everyone who works in IT (MCSE or not) has to be on call all the time.
Really Winsomeone - you think we are just "as bad" as Kate's 6 fans. That we refuse to see reality? That we believe Jon can do no wrong?
Then you and I will just have to agree to disagree. You don't like or trust Jon. Fine and good. But don't start comparing posters here to Kate's sheeple just because we don't happen to agree with your viewpoint. Thank you.
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Winsome - Regarding Steve on the account/guardian:
At the time of the divorce, Hailey released notes that Jon had allegedly written down (for the record, I think they were legit) and one note was discussing finances and custody. On it, Jon wrote that there was $900,000 in a trust and the note next to it was "Steve trustee witness".
Here's the link: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/09/01/jon-gosselin-to-kate-give_n_701780.html
You've got to love how nothing ever dies on the internet.
Anyway, my impression at the time was not that Steve was a guardian but that Steve was a witness when they signed the trust paperwork. That may not be the case, and at this point I think it's a moot point.
As others have said, Jon is human, just like the rest of us. But as of late, he has walked his talk much more consistently then Kate. He gets the benefit of my doubt for that reason.
Insert Creative Username Here said... 107 Too funny. If you type in TFW's name into google, the second auto-fill search that comes up is "Kate Gosselin How She Fooled The World". Go Robert! :) ++++++
Thinking again about Jenny McCarthy's remark to Jon "You had better be a good Dad, or I'll kick your butt". I think it was just an off-the-cuff remark, nothing more.
I've been following this saga for many, many (too) years and even I get a bit lost in all the doings over the years. Jenny probably got a 5 minute brief about the Gosselins before the show and didn't know the ends and outs of the whole train wreck. So those who have been staying informed about all of this, the remark seemed insensitive and quite rude. To an "outsider" it may have just another comment to garnish some laughs. For me, I'll give Jenny a pass on this one.
Thank you Admin! and thank you for the answer too. Civilized blog you have here. Its logical to think that if subpoenaed in a criminal action, any testimony would supersede the nda, but yes (and you answered my question) what if it was outside of that venue and done because she just had to relieve her conscience. I have to think that if the alleged journal is authentic, there must be witnesses. But they know her litigious wrath. In my mind I put that together with the fact that EARLY ON it was disclosed there at least 40 employees who quit or were fired. Why did so many leave? This is not normally a field characterized by high turnover. Wonder what the total has been over the last 9 years.
If TFW wants to do a TV show she should go on Catfish to meet Milo. Oh and I just realizedthat when she says there is huge interest in her and kids doing a show she meant her sheep that tweet her toncome back on TV, not the Tnetworks
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Yes, child abuse! Kate can have anyone and everyone she wants sign confidentiality agreements forbidding them from ever talking about anything that they ever see, but if anyone witnesses child abuse they can report to CPS/DCFS or the police without any fear of repercussion. Kate knows this. She is a nurse. She bullies and instills fear into everyone else who don't know that, so they won't tell for fear of lawsuit. And we know she sues! Teachers, doctors, nurses are all mandated reporters of abuse. Thus, if I were in Kate's presence and witnessed abuse I would be obligated by law to report it. I wonder if she abused the children in front of Angie Krall, the nurse she had for the babies that was paid for by the state. If so, she was a mandated reporter too. You can get in trouble for not reporting suspected abuse if you are a mandated state reporter. The laws protect us and the children. Not Kate! Her ridiculously overworked and double digit length CA is irrelevant for any and all actions of abuse. Those people that witnessed it should/need to come forward. I have always been upset that they witnessed such horrible acts and did nothing! Disgusting and no excuse for it.
White Organza...79 Jon said 80% of gross income for three years. He wasn't specific on whose gross income it was.
Millicent...100 I agree. Because of the story lines, anyone of them could've done it for one reason or another. I briefly suspected the medium at one point.
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To AnnieD (#109): Wow! Thanks so much for the X-factor link. Victoria Carriger -- single Mom of 8 -- is very talented!! Here is a thought: Why don't we make an effort here to showcase Moms who are mom to lots of kids to show TFW that she isn't as "special" as she thinks. Of course, it would be Moms who willingly go public with their stories, like the Mom (and Dad) on the Today show who was interviewed after recently giving birth to her ELEVENTH (or something like that) BOY! TFMJG sure is a legend in her own mind!
Sounds like TFW is worried about Baltimore Book Fair. She wants her few fans to drive in for warm bodies and support. Her book signings must have been a disaster!
The best part of her tour were her television appearances! She probably regrets signing on to the book fair. Maybe she's afraid her non- fans will show up!
Does anyone have an idea how many books she has sold ?? I'm thinking with a little help from the TV audiences about 1,500 to 2,000.
Jon Gosselin was a topic of conversation on Wendy Williams today. Wendy and her guest from some gossip site had nothing but goos things to say about Jon. Wendy who really calls it as she sees it says she doesn't understand why everyone is ragging on him for waiting tables because at least he's working to provide for his kids. Her guest said she spoke with Jon last night and that he really is a nice guy. Lots of applause from the audience.
Admin, I too learned early on to have as you call it a "healthy respect" for No Trespassing signs. Keep Out meant keep out. When I was a child I thought of it as selfish. The realization though is living in rural country especially when surrounded by woods, residents are bothered by hunters, ATVSs, dirt bikes and teens wanting a place to drink and make a campfire. Add to that list for Jon - paparazzi and stalkers. I think his actions were respectful and I admire him for it. It is his and his children's home and she was dutifully warned but refused.
I watched Inside Edition. I didn't think she seemed drunk, just a bit slow and fumbling for words as usual. But I did notice a mark on her nose- is this a scratch or could she have had nose surgery?
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 71 That restaurant said Kate's attorneys had contacted them. They have no reason to lie about that. I can't think of a single good reason on planet earth they would have to do that, especially when attorneys are not permitted to talk to another attorney's client. Calling their workplace is flirting with direct contact. What if he picked up the phone himself?
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If you look at the twitter account that tweeted that, it's from a Black Dog Cafe in St. Paul, MN. Those idiots called the wrong restaurant!
Speaking about Jon and money and the kids I remembered a passage from RH's book that I had to write up because it is truly hypocritical, demeaning, and just absolutely nasty. It also shows Kate's control of the finances.
June 6, 2007 When Jon got home he had the nerve to lie to me about buying lunch in Philly that day! I knew he was lying, his eyes were as big as saucers!!! But he insisted that he 'didn't have lunch' when really he had put it on the credit card!!!! That was the absolute end to the most horrible day in history!!!! Why am I so unloved that he has to continually lie to me? Am I that stupid? Is he that character less? Evidently he cares more about his OWN fear or whatever that lying is okay! Does he really think that I would never EVER find out? Just be honest weak boy!!!!! Some life lesson he is teaching his kids! Great we will have a house full of lying kids...that makes me completely sick!!!!!!
Okay...where to begin...this is in response to whether or not Jon dared have the nerve to buy himself lunch that day. Mind you, he was the only one working, she was at home and she ordered him around about how any money was spent. She has real problems if this makes for the worst day in history. Those who live in glass houses...lying, Kate?? Really, Kate? The act of purchasing lunch also shows just how unloved Kate is?? Weak boy?!? How nice. Did she ever love him? This was in June of 2007. The show had barely started. She wasn't famous yet. That ego was clearly there before TLC and only made worse over the years.
Based on that reaction, no way Kate was saving money for her children. She was in charge of all money, including anything Jon did as well. These are the words of a truly very sick woman!
I think any interviewer should be forewarned that TFW speaks in code. If they aren't given the keys to her cryptic codes prior to her interviews, then they will just be confused by the interviews. TFW definitely looked out of it during her inside edition interview. I thought these interviews were to promote her cookbook and her ability to showcase her love of cooking with her children. This media tour is very similar to the CC interviews when she didn't even mention them. The interviewer had to pull any mention of CC out of her. TFW's interviews always revolve around her problems with Jon and the kids miss filming. In this latest round, what happened to her love of cooking and trying to promote her new book? All she needed to tell interviewers is that she is here to promote her book and she doesn't want to talk about Jon or the lawsuit. She completely blanks out about why she is on these shows, which is to promote her cookbook.
And begging Milo to come to her Baltimore book fair shows how desperate she is for any fans to show up.
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 3m Dear @MiloandJack &my other southern Twitter friends, is Baltimore 2 far of a road trip 4 you? #Iwanttomeetmyfriendsdownsouth #andothers2 *************************************************** Of course she's inviting her Twitter friends to Baltimore. She needs love, and that's the only way she is going to get some. Imagine how she will feel when she is in the company of REAL authors who actually have fans...and there sits Kart all alone hugging her cookbook. Please, Milo, go save her from the heartbreak of being alone, and the humiliation of being IGNORED!!
Echoing those comments about caution of going on private property in rural area. Especially during hunting season. Hunt clubs are out in areas they either own or lease or have permission to be on. Wear red or orange, or you might get mistaken for a deer. I would love to go to Baltimore, one of my favorite authors Lois McMasterBujold well be there. however I had commitments for Fri and sat already. The Neptune Festival inn Virginia Beach is this weekend also. I do hope someone can give a report from Baltimore, sounds like it's a wonderful event with a wide variety of authors. Layla, we are counting on you and your athlete bodyguards!
Admin -- You can watch the first episode of "Broadchurch" for free on TV.com. The entire series is available for purchase on Amazon instant video. It's very good. I haven't had time to watch the last 2 episodes, so I appreciate that everyone refrained from posting spoilers.
I recall Jon saying around the time of the divorce that he had set up irrevocable trusts for the kids and put most of his money into them, and that neither he nor TFMJG could touch it. Maybe that's what he means by the 80%?
I agree that Jon's "written warning" was most likely No Trespassing signs or something similar.
Did anyone ever report on the NJ book signing? I don't recall seeing anything about the numbers of people there.
Millicent 103, yes!! Kate had sleepy eyes in the inside edition video. Her lids look heavy and she blinks in slow motion. Plus she is slurring a little. It's subtle unless you're looking for it. But once you suspect it and watch it again..yow.
I think that the idea that Steve is the executor of kids' accounts came from notes that (allegedly) came from Jon. Either the name Steve, or maybe his initials, were written on the paper, which started speculation. If any of this is wrong, feel free to correct me.
Admin, I googled Broadchurch episodes, and a number of links came up for supposedly free viewing of full episodes. Here is one of them: http://www.tv.com/shows/broadchurch/
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 99 TFW when she speaks mostly teases, speaks in innuendos and hints, and says things that could have multiple meanings.
I think she doesn't understand that speaking in a clear manner and saying exactly what you mean is not only much easier to listen to, but infinitely less annoying.
So funny, Jon has the gift of gab far more than she does.
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TFW thinks The Gift Of Gab means she uses lots of words before she finally shuts up. She thinks 'um' 'honestly' 'like' and more 'um's count as words so she wins.
BTW, now that it is the day after Jon's appearance on the view, is Jon prancing across parking lots waxing poetically about the chairs of his dreams? His new besties? Are the sheeple complimenting him for doing it all for his kids and sacrificing himself to do whatever it takes to provide for his children?
No? Not yet?
Maybe he needs to dress like a Chippendale and trot around outside a Target store or two. That always seems to instill love and devotion in the sheeple.
So Kate is inviting fanz to the Baltimore book show? Has hell frozen over? Is it possible that the poor showing at her signings is finally breaking down her delusions?
I think that the reason she never gets hard questions in interviews is because people get that she is delusional, and, her mental health is fragile. If entertainment shows went the way of 'news' shows, with frequent gotcha moments, no one would appear on their shows.
Larry King was masterful at conducting seemingly soft interviews, and then letting the person snarl themselves up. He let the viewers judge for himself. In the end, if someone was lying, it was pretty obvious to the viewers.
By the way, I didn't realize this, but there will be a Season 2 of Broadchurch. Also, Fox picked up the rights to do a remake of Broadchurch ! I was reading an interview with the creator who said that there are alternate endings and the Fox production may end differently. Wow.]
So I viewed the ET, Inside Edition and Extra interviews. I did not see where she was "drugged" up, just nervous and trying to remember her talking points. This was not about the cookbook because all you'd hear out of her mouth was "safety concern". That sounds to me like she is going after him for having a gun. Jon can't even wipe his butt without her looking for some way to get full custody.
I cannot believe looking at her face that she is the same person from the original show. I can't put my finger on it, but she does seem even more remote (if that's possible), nervous (hand flapping) and if you watch, her eyes dart around all the time (sign of lying). She has no ability to think on her feet and stuck with her talking points. Pretty sure all questions had to be submitted prior to any interview because her "keeper", Steve, is aware she cannot go off point.
If you look at the twitter account that tweeted that, it's from a Black Dog Cafe in St. Paul, MN. Those idiots called the wrong restaurant! --------------------------
I have my doubts about them getting calls from TMZ or Kate's lawyers. I think that tweet was a hoax.
If anyone called them, they would first have to look up their phone number, whether through google or their website which is posted on their twitter ID. Both queries would show that they are located in MN, not PA. Their twitter name and twitter bio also says that they are in St. Paul.
Anyone would have to be an idiot to think they were calling the place where Jon works. I doubt lawyers and the people at TMZ would really be that stupid.
With all the stories about Jon and that he worked at a restaurant that has the same name, I think they just did it as a joke or they were punked.
OT I was listening to NPR at lunchtime and they did a segment on a newly coined psychiatric manifestation called "The Truman Delusion" where people believe they are living in a reality show. It was fascinating. They referenced this article
Come On said... 42 ''....Well, according to Jon, he did give his unknown trespasser a WRITTEN warning before firing his gun. I would love for someone to explain how THAT went down. Did he walk up to his unknown potential assailant and hand her a note, then decide that she was an imminent threat and fire his warning shot?
Come on, people. If Kate went on national television and claimed that she gave someone trespassing on her property a written warning before firing a gun, you would be having a field day with it and rightly so. However, since Jon said something so utterly ridiculous, you're just letting it slide. .'' ~~~~~~~~ The written warning has been explained. The posted no trespassing signs are ''written warning'', which the stalker ignored...just as she ignored his verbal warnings, and even Jon pulling his gun didn't stop her. The stalker only listened when Jon fired his weapon.
So, come on, Come on...just admit that no matter what Jon said, you'd consider it ridiculous, and never ever let anything slide, just because it is Jon.
I don't agree regarding TFW being asked about these hard questions about Jon since these interviews were supposed to be about her new cookbook. Her keeper (Steve) or her PR firm should have indicated prior to these interviews that this should be a showcase for her cookbook, and even possibly a demo of one or more of her recipes in this book. Instead the interviews turned into the typical questions regarding her lawsuit against Jon and her dating problems because she has 8 kids. She spoke nothing about her recipes. Is she going to at least have a demonstration of one of the book recipes at this fair in Maryland? Maybe Steve will make her pizza recipe. She can at least have him look like he's necessary for her book tour if he's helping her prepare Uncle Steve's pizza, as opposed to hiding with her in back rooms.
Ally: I see people don't agree with Manhattan on Amazon. I wrote a comment myself, and I did think your review was excellent and truthful. I hope customers are not duped (lol) into buying this book based on what it promises- I think your review will be very helpful to cookbook readers.
If TFW is such a bestselling author, would she be begging fans aka Milo who she apparently never even met, to have to travel far and spend money for gas and other expenses (including a room, depending how far she lives) to get a signed book from her? This book tour is far beyond a normal book tour. People who go to these book signings aren't required to travel hundreds of miles to get a lousy book signed.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 104 ''.....She could sue, but there's not a judge in the land that is going to stick their neck out and say you can't disclose child abuse and other misdeeds per your confidentiality contract.'' ''.....They were not designed to help the celeb cover up bad behavior'' ~~~~~~~ I believe that TFW did use the CA to help cover her bad behavior. Now that she is no longer backed by TLC and/or Laverne and Shirley, I believe that the fear of violating the CA has lessened greatly! I suspect that there are MANY people that have been silenced by the signed CAs are ready and willing to spill their guts in discovery demands!
I just watched the inside edition interview. TWF didn't seem drunk to me. Her eyes seem shifty, as in they can't stay in one spot for long. I thought it was funny in one of the interviews she said that she talks while she cooks. And (supposedly) one of the twins told her that she needed a cooking show. BBhahahaha! TWF is so transparent. But just listening to her voice, I literally get a headache. I don't understand how these shows can keep having her on.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 110 ''....When I was growing up I remember my parents explaining about posted and no trespassing signs and how serious it was. You were taught from an early age a healthy respect for those signs and to turn your little hiney around right away if you ever see them. I guess that's partly why I find this incident so shocking that someone would disrespect a clear sign like that. The law of the land in rural areas is you do NOT ignore such signs.'' ~~~~~~ I think that anyone that grows up in the country are taught from a very early age to respect other people's property. The Texas author John Henry Faulk was once asked to describe Texans in one sentence, and he said, ''Get off my property!''
Like you, I was shocked that someone would actually be on Jon's private property, and not leave until he fired his weapon. No wonder Jon was so upset...followed onto dirt roads all the way to his house, ignoring the posted ''written warnings'', and then leaving her car to take photos.
Jon has had years and years of being bad mouthed and harassed by TFMJG's FEMALE fans, so I'm thinking that the very fact that it was a woman added to his stress level.
So Kate is inviting fanz to the Baltimore book show? Has hell frozen over? Is it possible that the poor showing at her signings is finally breaking down her delusions?
I can see the head sheeple blow the trumpet like they're going to battle. The 6 sheep drop what they're doing, pack an overnight bag and hop on the highway. Nah, I'm sure Milo will find another excuse why he, I mean she can't go up there. It reminds me of an old show from the 80s, The Newheart Show. The maid of the hotel, was from a wealthy family but she wanted to make her own way in life. Her name was Stephanie. She was VERY vain and self absorbed. Her boyfriend Michael, who was a pushover and very devoted to her, was wrapped around her finger. Well, in one episode, Stephanie and Michael were at this public event. Stephanie felt that she wasn't getting enough attention from the "mediocre" locals. Stephanie demanded that Michael help get everyone's attention on her. Michael stood away from her, acting like he didnt know her. He would start saying "Wow, isn't that (insert actress name)! "She is so beautiful, look at her hair, her dress, amazing!" Michael, the boyfriend remind me of the head sheep and Stephanie reminds me of TWF.
In the response from Robert's attorney that admin posted, there was a second attorney for Jon listed, a Richard Orwig. A quick google indicates he is a will, estate, trust kind of attorney. Perhaps he is the one that handles the children's trust account.
It looks like TFW is on some panel tonight with the author of the Nanny Diaries! You know the expose about nannying for rich cold bitches? Oh the irony! LOLOL
Exterior Designer said... 60 I think Jon said he put 80% of his part of the divorce settlement into a trust for the kids and this is why he is broke and implying that is why Kate is NOT broke. I could be wrong but that was my impression. ***************************************** His exact words were "I put 80% of the gross income of the show for three years in a trust for them." He would not have had the power to do that single-handedly. If, in fact, 80% of the gross income of the show was set aside for the children, it was done by Jon AND Kate, not solely by Jon.
I don't understand why any of these shows would want her on. If they neither discuss her crook book nor ask pertinent questions, just what is the point? Why cater to her? I doubt this will post, as usual, but giving it nor more try.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 5h @Kateplusmy8 HaHa...I'm way down yonder as U know...:) U'd have 2 "Air -O-Plane" me in 4that long a distance! Have fun N Baltimore!
If Milo really wanted to meet Saint Kate, she would hop on that plane. It's a two-hour flight right into BWI. There's a reason she hedges every time. If she figures she'll wait until Kate does a book tour (or speaking engagement) in the Deep South, she's going to be waiting a very long time. Kate has been within reasonable driving distance many times. Something is just not right there.
I see the inviting of Milo and other fans at the 11th hour as throwing a bone to her few fans. "I'll let them think I care, but I know damn well they won't be able to make it here."
So Kate is inviting fanz to the Baltimore book show? Has hell frozen over? Is it possible that the poor showing at her signings is finally breaking down her delusions?
I can see the head sheeple blow the trumpet like they're going to battle. The 6 sheep drop what they're doing, pack an overnight bag and hop on the highway.
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What's really funny is many of the southern sheeple asking about the tour are in Texas. Of course they'll drop everything and drive 22 hours to Baltimore...just for a 10 second signing.
It just dawned on me every time Kate says some like...the kids want me to date, the kids said I should write a cook book, the kids said I should have a cooking show. In the real world its generally friends and/or family members who encourage someone to do X. In Kate's world is always the kids. Yes, the very people who don't speak to the press thus Kate can say anything she wants. If it was a friend (does she still have any of those?) they could set the record straight by talking to the media.
Also, Kate never talks about her family unless its to say my grandmother (who passed away) encouraged me to cook or some other family member who has passed. Once again, a person to can't speak and tell the truth.
I have just seen that pompous, arrogant, irritatingly grandiose eleventh hour tweet to all her fans to come to come to Baltimore to see her.
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Looking at the tweets from fans, it seems they haven't been able to find the schedule, or they think that she will be adding dates. Maybe they're in denial to think that this whole thing is over and this grandiose tour included only Staten Island, New Jersey, the Book Fair and one at a mall in Canada. Shouldn't someone on Twitter tell these folks that this is the end of the tour? Kate obviously isn't going to do it!
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 4h @HCI_Books @Kateplusmy8 Not just fluff flattery! #LoveIsInTheMix is truly a well made/colorful neatly organized high quality piece of work!
Either old Gladys doesn't get out much; she wouldn't know a quality cookbook if it hit her in the face; or that wool over her eyes needs a serious shearing. Maybe all of those things.
What I find most hilarious about that excerpt ... The kids are going to learn lying from Jon and Jon alone.
I've seen the sheeple tweeting that Jon was lying about this or that in his appearance on The View. He may have been, but he's spoken so little lately that it's hard to find proof of a lie he has told.
WOS lies about everything. She lies about crap no one even cares about. Every blog, tweet, interview is a complete contradiction to something she's blogged, tweeted or said in an interview previously.
Yep, if those kids grow up lying, it's all Jon's fault.
Fortunately or unfortunately, I am going to Baltimore tomorrow morning. My family and I are Red Sox fans and we planned to take my dad to a ball game for his 65th birthday, last year. Well, that turned into my brother making the plans for tomorrow last week. I didn't even realize I was going to be there at the same time until a couple days ago. We are taking in an evening game and spending the night in Baltimore. Anyone know where in Baltimore the book festival is? Is it near inner harbor? If I get the opportunity I will take photos or investigate and report back. Don't know if I will. I am certainly not going to ruin my day searching for her. Her Paramus book signing also happened to be in the same town my mom and aunt grew up in. My aunt and family still live there. Very much know where that B&N is. I'm starting to feel like I'm sharing to much with Kate. Couldn't she do her book signings somewhere else, like UCONN territory in Canada. Maybe she'd get so lost she couldn't find her way back. Anyway...anyone know where the fair is?
There were only two, and we haven't heard anything about the one in Paramus, NJ. Have there been any tweets claiming it was jam-packed, people waited in line for hours, and that Kate was the most amazing,, warm and friendly person they ever met?
Does anything supersede a confidentiality agreement? ***************
"Yes, child abuse! Kate can have anyone and everyone she wants sign confidentiality agreements forbidding them from ever talking about anything that they ever see, but if anyone witnesses child abuse they can report to CPS/DCFS or the police without any fear of repercussion."
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Then, for the love of God, why hasn't anyone come forward? I don't get it.
Or is it that they DID come forward and Child Services investigated and found that her actions were 'within the law'?
Makes me want to puke but it seems to me there are probably more people out there than just Mr. Hoffman who tried to speak out but still nothing was done because Kate's abuse was deemed 'within the law'.
That's when you need to examine the laws themselves. If the law itself allows parents to get away with that kind of abuse, they NEED to be changed/updated.
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Ally said...(130)
"Speaking about Jon and money and the kids I remembered a passage from RH's book that I had to write up because it is truly hypocritical, demeaning, and just absolutely nasty. It also shows Kate's control of the finances."
June 6, 2007 When Jon got home he had the nerve to lie to me about buying lunch in Philly that day! I knew he was lying, his eyes were as big as saucers!!! But he insisted that he 'didn't have lunch' when really he had put it on the credit card!!!! That was the absolute end to the most horrible day in history!!!! Why am I so unloved that he has to continually lie to me? Am I that stupid? Is he that character less? Evidently he cares more about his OWN fear or whatever that lying is okay! Does he really think that I would never EVER find out? Just be honest weak boy!!!!!"
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This passage speaks volumes about Kate, her temper and her need for ultimate control. It's frightening that she would even document this tirade.
From this we can garner that she is not at all measured or reasoned and that when she gets angry she feels fully entitled to go off like a pressure cooker.
If this is how she deals with a bit of marital indiscretion (he bought lunch for heaven's sake, he didn't spend the afternoon at a hotel with heroin and hookers) then what was she like with the kids?
Oh wait, we know, it's documented and published on episodes of their show and IN HER OWN WORDS in Mr. Hoffman's book.
The woman is a ticking time bomb and I'm sick to death of the media giving this woman a pass while treating Jon with skepticism and disdain.
I'm happy to see the tables are finally turning in Jon's favour and that he's getting the respect he deserves for doing everything he can to set things to right for his kids.
He can never undo the fact that Kate is their mother but at the very least he should be given credit for trying to provide for them a balance to her crazy.
I did sort of reluctantly watch the Katie Couric video online that was about 5 minutes. My first thought was, all those kids except for Hannah and Leah, looked miserable, especially the twins. Kate did not smile or look like she was enjoying any part of that home segment. Could t be because Katie and her team of "icky" boys beat her?! Ha! She sits around pretending like there is such horrible chaos and she just tunes it all out..."what noise??". Additionally, the segment about chore duty and how they only have 2 chores was staged and rehearsed and of course by Leah. Anyone notice that when Kate stages the kids for things she usually uses Hannah and Leah? I'm thinking about the book reading photo from twitter. Those two are also always given the task of repeating the line of information Kate wants everyone to hear. I think those two are her favorites and it shows very obviously, which is sad for the other children. Did you also notice the messy countertop to make the pizza? That was set up too. Again, another reason to be pissy. She is trying to convince the world that messes don't matter anymore and "fun" is most important. Yeah right. I'll bet normally that counter is lined in plastic. The in studio portion wasn't any better. She had no animation, no relaxed smile, wasn't chatty and looked like she would have rather been anywhere else but sitting in that studio. That's not typical Kate when it comes to TV appearances. Something was clearly on her mind when that was filmed. Remember, DWTS when she said, "if I'm thinking about what I'm cooking for dinner, that's what you are going to see on my face." Translation: I have no acting ability whatsoever.
Thanks to the blogger yesterday (Wendy?), who gave detailed instructions to post a comment. I have succeeded, and am most grateful. I was somehow bogged down by the /URL. Thus inspired, I have just tapped out emails to the upcoming Marilyn Denis, Steven&Chris shows here in Canada. I beseeched them to do some research on TFW, although I was unable to refer to her as such...too bad. I mentioned the shows she has appeared on thus far I the U.S., and appealed to their better natures. I don't suppose my letters will amount to anything, but I have to try. Have been reading here for ages...better than my morning coffee.
I had forgotten about that story with Jon and lying about buying lunch. Just her comments about it show what a mental case she is. She doesn't understand that people who live with a verbal abuser will start to lie about even the smallest things because they don't want to face the wrath of that person.
She was worrying about the kids lying and you can bet they already are because they also have learned what sets Mommy off. You can tell they have learned the best way to keep Mommy happy is to praise her in any way they can. How many times has she mentioned something wonderful one of them had said about her and we have commented that they were not things a child that age would normally say.
Jon, the kids, relatives, those she has dealt with in public, interviewers, etc.---- all these years and no one has ever confronted her about her behavior because everyone is afraid of her.
Oh, come on, Milo. You can do better than this. Kate love? What about those fantastic long, lean legs, rockin hot body, fabulous physique? All of Baltimore isn't enamored with those things? Did you jump out of bed this morning singin, "Good Morning, Baltimore" (Hairspray)...Kate's here for you all to love?
MiloandJack @alikins417 @Kateplusmy8 Wow...U both look so nice! What a memory made..Baltimore feeling the #KateLove 4 sure!
HCI, if she paid for their promotional package, must be wondering what is going on with her in these interviews. It's as if there is no cookbook, just an opportunity to bad mouth Jon. She is totally off the rails.
Someone upthread mentioned that in one of those interviews where she was filmed from the right side, they noticed "a mark" beside her nose. I saw that too and I think it looks like a deep scar from her nose job. You can tell she's had one if you compare her nose shape from the early days and now. I also think her hair is nothing but extensions to fill it out. It has got to be incredibly damaged at this point.
AH yes Milo and Jack, Kate's book is a piece of work. Well I guess you proved my granny right when she always said=it takes one to know one. You, milo dear, are a piece of work too! LOL
On another note, has anyone looked at the amazon ratings. Talk about polarizing. Last night TFW's book has all one stars and 5 stars, not a single 2, 3, or 4. I read their reviews a lot and have NEVER seen that before.
Milo got it right: the cookbook is "a piece of work". Interesting that Milo, the #1 fan, did not make it a vacation to see her hero in Baltimore. Further proof to me Milo is not what she claims.
Does anyone else think that Steve is still in the picture because of the TLC contract still being in effect. Could it be that as long as Kate was bound by the contract Steve is part of said contract.
I thought it was funny in one of the interviews she said that she talks while she cooks. And (supposedly) one of the twins told her that she needed a cooking show.
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Back on one of the early episodes, TFW and the twins were in the kitchen playing "cooking show", while the sextuplets were having their daily 4-hour afternoon nap. These were her words - "We like to play cooking show". So she's had that idea rattling around in her head for a long time. It could be that one of the twins might have said it to her to win her favor when they were five-years-old but good grief, pay a narcissist a compliment and they won't let it go.
Now should pigs grow wings and fly and she DID land a cooking show, which not doubt would be another epic fail, she will have someone to blame it on, namely the twin who suggested it. It is NEVER Kate's fault.
What ta do..what ta do. Kate is getting wrapped, very tightly, around her own lies. Her contract with TLC is about finished, Jon is looking like the good guy he is, Kate is looking more and more like the bitch that she is, Robert's book is coming out again (with added chapters I hope), public opinion has turned on her, Bullyville, apparently, has left the building, her crookbook is a bomb and she has no family or friends to speak of. What's next on your agenda, Katie Irene?? As Dr. Phil would say, "How's that workin' for ya"?
Admin (72) Do you remember when Hailey released notes that were hand-written by Jon during the divorce? I remember reading them, and apparently they were jotted down during pone conversations with TFW. He had written down exactly what was in the kids' trust. He had written $900,000, and also wrote that the house and the BBB were in their names. He had other things, one I remember was $99,000 salary for Steve. He was listing things that he was not going to pay for after the divorce. He also listed hair, nails, tanning, etc as things he would not agree to paying. I think TFW added all that in when estimating child support, and he said no way, I am not paying for your hair and your nails and tanning and your married "bodyguard". And he also wrote about money he needed immediately for his lawyer. Does anyone else remember seeing that? It was a long time ago, but I clearly remember it.
I didn't get to go to the Baltimore Book Festival today. TFW was supposed to sign books at 5, and I was busy picking kids up from clubs/practices, and we are leaving soon for our linebacker's game. Tomorrow works for me--she will be appearing at 4:30, and right after her comes Brian Boitano! I really want to get a signed copy of his cookbook. A couple of my sons even want to go see him. They love the Brian Boitano song. Well, the older ones do. The littler ones are, as far as I know, blissfully unaware of South Park. I will share BBF details when I get home tomorrow.
Someone was wondering whether TFW would stay at Steve's house in MD overnight or go home. He is from the North Potomac/Gaithersburg area, which is 45 minutes to an hour from Baltimore, depending on traffic. TFW's house would be about an hour and a half from there. His place would be a shorter drive, but not too much shorter.
Milo got it right: the cookbook is "a piece of work". Interesting that Milo, the #1 fan, did not make it a vacation to see her hero in Baltimore. Further proof to me Milo is not what she claims.
LOL and that looks like Jon! Someone tweeted a pic with her..if you put your finger over her boobs you can see how stick thin she really is. The fake boobs are the only thing of substance on her.
Couple tweets about meeting her and how "sweet" and "down to earth" she is. Remember she said it's her mission to leave that impression. Must suck to have to work that hard to pretend you're nice.
Totally off the subject but guess which road manager has a child that is into lacrosse and another one into school theater? How much of a coincidence is that?
Well, Katie Couric just set her viewers straight at the end of her show today. I just caught the last few minutes when she wraps up the week's guest appearances. She said that prior to TFW's appearance she had a lot of negative tweets, but after having her on, she received positive comments, then flashed up a tweet from a viewer stating what a great mom the TFW is.
Katie said she really enjoyed her time with TFW and asked people to "just leave her alone, she's doing the best she can!" Now there is some in-depth research and reporting. Geez.
As the dinner hour commences and moves across the US I picture Kate's tweeties filling the plates of their hungry families with steaming portions of slimy pasta and doggie vomit. Oh YUM!
Michelle and Insert Creative User Name, thanks for the answer to my question about the upturn in book sales. It makes sense. Shows must buy their books at Amazon, the cheaper alternative, even cheaper than getting them directly from the publisher.
Does anyone else think that Steve is still in the picture because of the TLC contract still being in effect. Could it be that as long as Kate was bound by the contract Steve is part of said contract. 180
That occurred to me when TFW recently stated that her TLC contract is at it's VERY end. It"s quite possible.
Maryland's girl You call Jon childish and ridiculous in one post and bust on him being bald in the next. That's when I stop taking anything you say seriously. I hate hypocrites.
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You're right Cheryl. I guess I was just posting like everyone else was.
There is no accounting for child support in PA. If she wants to spend it on manicures she can. So if he socks it all away into an irrevocable trust all of a sudden there's no money for child support for Kate to spend on herself and he just let himself fall into arrears.
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Could this explain the $22,000 a month child support he was supposedly paying? Putting, say, $16,000 a month ($2,000 for each child) into these trusts and the rest to TFW for Child Support? Just a thought.
There HAS to be more behind the story of Kate and Steve's relationship. Just look at his "resume". No way is he working for Kate for a few hundred dollars a trip? And now his primary job is carrying cases of books? Makes absolutely no sense. http://www.zoominfo.com/p/Steve-Neild/385035627 I am glad to see Kate does not bring any of the children to the book signings and a "draw". But it is sort of sad, what a great opportunity it would be for one of the twins (at a time) to spend some alone time with mom, go to dinner, walk around the book fair and meet other authors. Pioneer Woman often travels with one of her daughters, she had no need for a body guard. She uses the opportunity as part of their school work. (What I learned about xxxx when we visited that I never knew.) Kate has used the kids so much that she can't turn something into a simply nice thing to do. She just has no real relationship with her kids, which is sad for all of them.
Ex Nurse said... 141 ''.....I think that the reason she never gets hard questions in interviews is because people get that she is delusional, and, her mental health is fragile'' ~~~~~~~ I'm happy to be able to finally agree with you! I believe that when people are face to face with TFMJG, they realize that she really IS mentally fragile, and that is why they don't challenge her, or follow up her responses with more questions.
Jumping in: what do you expect from a Talk show Katie Couric, her talk show is tanking. I don't watch her show, her show is like so many others(I don't watch them either, they are boring. Wendy Williams is ok, Much better than The View. The View has lost something, it's zing?, it's boring, has no spark anymore. Perhaps it's been on too long. The rest of the talk shows are pretty much the same, you watch one, you seen them all.
So Katie Couric is a defender of TFW? I used to like her.
This was in a review at Amazon: "the photography was "wonderful"? Okay, explain what that green thing is growing out of that one child's head on the cover? What horrible photography." Did one of you write this? LOL
TFW will change the title of The Nanny Diaries to The Part Time Helper Diaries.
Katie said she really enjoyed her time with TFW and asked people to "just leave her alone, she's doing the best she can!" Now there is some in-depth research and reporting. Geez.
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I guess that proves she really does want her show cancelled. She must be another "get a life" Meredith Vieira. Buh bye Katie.
Milo, the successful independent woman, can't take a weekend trip to Baltimore with her "daughter". Pretty close to DC could be a fun weekend. Guess LOM won't allow it. She doesn't even eat her vanilla ice cream anymore. Milo 6.0?
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 400 of 492 Newer› Newest»Mona said... 199
What is triggering the spike in sales this month?
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TFW's contract appearances where she includes book sales into the contract. (i.e. I will show up to the Katie Show, but you have to purchase books for the audience.)
Mona said... 199
What is triggering the spike in sales this month?
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Katie Couric show buying enough copies to provide one to every audience member. Bethanny's show probably doing the same. Same at Canadian show. That would be my guess.
Ouch! Read the latest post at gosselinbook.
He's calling the media out on their support of TFW.
For people who thought that KK was on something during her interviews add me to the list.
Mel, you beat me to it. Robert is not backing down one smidgen, which makes me think TFW must be peeing her panties right about now.
I watched the Inside Edition interview with Kate. She seemed annoyed one minute and then angry the next. Her eyes rarely looked at the interviewer. She was looking off to the side constantly. What's up with that? It's like she wants to be on TV but interviewed. Could she have possibly been high on something.
I really don't get Kate. She gets on Twitter for a few minutes at a time and when she shows up, people jump on and ask about times and places of her signings and she disappears.
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��RT @YBarto13: @Kateplusmy8 tried the D8 Oatmeal Cookie recipe today!My dad loves them! Great recipe! #LoveIsInTheMix pic.twitter.com/CC2VKATt9G
ANGChick8-14-2013 @YBarto13 18m
That moment when @Kateplusmy8 RT's your pic! Any book signings happening in the Granite State? Aka New Hampshire? Would Love to go! #603
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@Kateplusmy8 Where can we find a list of your upcoming book signings- I live 30 minutes from you in Pottsville - lunch? I'll buy... Lol
I guess I just can't quite fathom how she can be so constantly rude to her fans. She's on a book tour and won't answer fans questions about it. Damn, she's frustrating.
Does anything supersede a confidentiality agreement? I am of the opinion there are a lot of witnesses who seem unfairly bound by the nondisclosure agreements they signed. How far reaching is the agreement to keep sensitive information confidential? What if the restraints of the agreement become a burden on ones moral and religious beliefs? What if they feel there was abuse of any kind? Are they still bound?
Depending on the promotion of a book signing of a specific author, some books may be ordered based on the speculation of a publisher that many books will be sold. Often that is not the case, though the returns don't seem to ever be reflected as a negative in the sale amount.
When my husband does a book signing, either he (via copies he has ordered at reduced cost) arrives at a the bookstore signing with copies of the book and keeps the "profit" or the store orders a certain number of books available to be bought, which unsold can be returned. Believe me, when he tells the local book stores that unsold copies can be returned they are euphoric and very interested in him conducting signings. Additionally after a signing, he always leaves behind one signed copy of his book (at his cost) that the bookstore can sell as a signed copy. Good will goes a long way!
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In the back of my mind, I had Joe as being part of the murder after the priest turned over Tommy's smashed computer to DCI Hardy and informed Hardy he contacted both sets of parents a few months earlier about a fight he had to break up between Tommy and Danny. But when Hardy asked DC Miller if the priest contacted her about the fight she said no. I thought, okay why didn't your husband tell you. So I got suspicious of her husband but I still wasn't sure. It was a great series.
I went to our local B&N today and there were six copies of TFW's cookbook on the shelf. When I went there last week there were five. Either they found one floating around the stockroom and stuck it up there or there was a return (gasp!).
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Could she have possibly been high on something.
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It sure wasn't Sharpie fumes.
Well, this is a new one. This person has tweeted over 300 celebrities asking for donations, from jewelry, clothing, shoes (specified her size). I wonder how many of them bite.
Peggy @clevelandmomof1 3h
@Kateplusmy8 Just checking around to see if you had any clothes/items you don't use to donate? Let me know..:-)
Robert. Please. Hurry. The anticipation is killing me........!!
Anything on the crowd that turned out last night in New Jersey? Pics? Words of praise and adulation?
Gladys, is that you?
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Kate Gosselin - Kate Gosselin Photo (21228273) - Fanpop fanclubs http://shar.es/KcUrC via @sharethis Kate sure has some gogious legs
Holy crazy former wives, Bat Man!
I have been trying to catch up on my reading, but I just can't get ahead of the onslaught!
Forgive me if this has already been mentioned, but I'm here to weigh in about the book signing as a former B&N employee:
Locations hosting the signings order waaaayyy more books than they expect to sell that night. It always looks nice to have huge stacks of the book on display during and leading up to the signing. There would probably be a table prominently displayed with a large poster advertising the signing and 50-100 copies of the new book, as well as copies of previous books. Since TFW's new book is from a completely different publisher than the first three, I'm not sure this would be the case this time. There would be a huge poster with a photo of the book at the front of the store, with more copies nearby. Finally, several carts in the back room would be loaded with more books ready to be wheeled out if anything appeared to be running low. Book stores do NOT want to run out of product at a signing! At the end of the event, the author would probably sign extra copies (about 10 or so) for the hosting store to put on display to sell with a cute little sticker announcing that it is an exclusive autographed copy.
Extra copies of the book get shipped back to the publisher, usually the next day as stores don't have storage space for extra books. The "back room" everyone talks about is the manager's office, a break room/cloak room for the employees, and basically a loading dock where shipments are received, sorted onto shelving carts, or processed for returns. Hence TFW's hiding-in-the-janitor-closet episode. Sorry, no warehouse full of books hiding back there! TFW, and by extension, Steve, should know this as they have done MULTIPLE B&N book signings in the past. The posters advertising the signings are taken down by the end of the day, and usually the employees have dibs or a drawing or something to take certain ones home, maybe even signed by the author after the event. I guess an author could take the posters home, but I personally never saw one do it. Maybe none of the employees even wanted it?
As for "settling up with the cashier," I have no idea what this means. I have never witnessed this at other events, unless she bought something?
Also, I have never been told to check to see if the customers in line at a singing specifically have a B&N receipt, let alone one for that exact day!! I always bought books for signings at least several days in advance to be sure I had what I wanted and didn't need to scramble the day of an event to get it, especially if I was working at said event and knew I wouldn't have time.
I would be interested to hear from the booksellers on duty if she was nice to them, even if they are only mediocre retail workers.
I'm 500 comments behind and I may just have to call it futile and start fresh on the next post.
Your local B&N industry insider,
Turtle Logic
Wow, I am late to this par-tay!!!!!
Thanks Admin for googling that Sunset Boulevard. I had done the same thing but could only find snippets. I watched enough tho to get the jist. If its a fictional movie, someone was foreshadowing a certain former wife, we all know :)
So Jon made it onto the view?!?!? Will have to go watch that Clip.
As someone said up thread, this certainly was not a Book Tour, was it? Even that Kim Weiss said it might not seem like the tv clip was about the book considering the title, but she comments the book does get talked about a few minutes in.
With TFW's tweet about going anywhere happily that HCI arranges for her, kind of sounds like they foot the bill?!??! Its gets more and more bizarre.
Gosselinbook is hitting the media people about not taking responsibility for the welfare of the kids, if they knew they were being abused, and links to cases of people being charged for spanking with a spoon.!
Go RH!! Go Jon!!!
BTW, to TFW fan who sent the link to Robert about TFW's book photographer and her nice comments...
You are welcome for the link. I posted that!
I agree with Robert, people paid by TFW dont really count, but if thats all ya got.....
With these two dumdums busy on teevee trying to 'win' a public opinion battle, WHO is LOOKING AFTER the CHILDREN?
Take it to court you two and leave it there. For the sake of 8 little kids.
Jon's been off the show now for what, 3 or so years? Why couldn't he get an IT job in this period of time. THe law suit was only filed last month.
Also, Jon sure is bald. I would be too if I had to deal with all the stress from Katie Irene, too. LOL
Jon's been off the show now for what, 3 or so years? Why couldn't he get an IT job in this period of time. THe law suit was only filed last month.
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I believe he was doing IT work for a bit, wasn't that what he was doing for Game Center or whatever it was, in addition to promotion and other contract work? All of that involves IT skills.
Also Kate has been peddling this hacking nonsense for over two years. A month ago was not the first time it was brought up. It's been going on and on, there was that whole thing with Hailey and her texts about it, this is not our first rodeo. That's what the whole Statute of Limitations was about because she had been talking about this for years, thus Tuma was saying she blew the SOL by waiting so long to file.
Even so I think even if that's a bit of hyperbole, I almost think he was making fun of her. In other words, it goes both ways. If you're going to say whatever I did prevents you from jobs then I can say what you're doing prevents me from jobs. I almost thought he might have just been making fun of how ridiculous she sounds when she says that.
Auntie Ann....12
Sharpie fumes.....too funny!
I believe he was doing IT work for a bit, wasn't that what he was doing for Game Center or whatever it was, in addition to promotion and other contract work? All of that involves IT skills.
**So why did he say that he couldn't find work then? Odd.
I almost think he was making fun of her. In other words, it goes both ways. If you're going to say whatever I did prevents you from jobs then I can say what you're doing prevents me from jobs.
** It's all so childish and ridiculous. Meanwhile, who the heck is looking after those kids?? I would have thought Jon had first right of refusal. I hope he didn't turn down time with his kids for an interview where he's asked if he supports them. What a mess for those poor children.
** It's all so childish and ridiculous.
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Very much so. It's War of the Roses, like I said. It's kind of funny though, and it is nice to see TFW finally get a taste of her own medicine. She does just fine when she controls the war. When someone actually fights back she's a mess. It's low-brow entertainment guilty pleasure popcorn style stuff this is. I'd expect nothing less from reality stars. Still, I wouldn't expect anyone no matter how mature to put up with her as long as he has before finally saying screw it two can play at this game. And boy is he ever playing her, this is a chess match.
Weren't the kids in school today? Jon could have been back home in a matter of hours, well in time for the bus stop pickup. NYC actually isn't that far from them.
I believe Game Center was well before TFW really ramped up the "Jon is a hacker" nonsense. That was on full speed ahead about six months ago and never stopped from there.
Oh not sure if this was mentioned but I also noticed he mentioned he worked 16 hour days. I think what he's doing to get back on his feet is something a lot of people can relate to right now. Lots of people are doing the two job thing (localyocal included, right?), lots of people have had to work very very hard at jobs that are very demanding like in restaurants. What he's doing right now is really brilliant in terms of winning people to his side. Like we talked about a few days ago TFW represents the old way, how we used to live. Lavish, lazy, on credit. The way Jon's living is very much more in line with how we live now, and thus that easily translates into "team Jon" viewers.
Are you saying you think Jon drove them to the bus stop this morning and was home by dinner time? Man, I sure hope so.
While these two dummies are busy playing tit for tat, there's 8 children to attend to.
I personally hope Jon stops this interview business after today. He did well, got all the info out that he needed to and now needs to step away from the cameras.
Let Kate continue putting her foot in her mouth. I think Jon looks the better parent if he quietly goes home and takes care of the kids while Kate continues on her 'Believe ME' ridiculousness.
Because the kids always come first, right??
Oh, I don't think Jon was just saying that at all. I think he meant every word of it, and I believe he's speaking the truth,
Let's say that I had a background in banking. A rumor was swirling around that I had committed bank fraud, but no charges had yet been filed. I go looking for a job in the banking industry. Will anyone hire me? Probably not, because my record has now been tainted. The
bank does not want to walk into problems with its eyes half opened.
It's not like racial or gender discrimination. You can't not hire a person solely for their religion, sex or race. But you sure can not hire a person about whom there is some question of honesty and/or reliability in your field of business.
No company would want a man accused of wiretapping and hacking
working as an IT person. The CUSTOMERS would raise the roof in protest.
I think Jon was spot on. And he's still a guy I'd love to go have a glass of iced tea with. I said that years ago.
I was so impressed with Jon today. He was so nice and well spoken. I'm so glad he got to tell his side, or at least some of it.
Totally agree that it's time for Barbara to retire. She cannot keep up and is extremely rude!!
AuntieAnn, do you have a special book with sayings that make me nearly p my p's?!! You are always so very funny!
Maryland, who cares if Jon is getting bald?
Bald men are very sexy!
Jon can refill this cougars water glass anytime:)
Remona Blue said...
... there is no way on God's green earth that TFMJG would allow Jon to give his children 80% while SHE got 10%.
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Good point, Remona! Darn that Jon; he clarified many things today, but left us scratching our heads about this. Oh well, we'll be able to speculate about and discuss this for years though. lol
Totally agree that it's time for Barbara to retire. She cannot keep up and is extremely rude!!
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In all seriousness, Barbara really couldn't seem to understand what was going on. Even after it was explained there are twins and sextuplets she still seemed confused. How old is she now?
I just looked her up....yikes, 84!
Goodness. What is she doing at such demanding work? Why not just slow down a bit?
BW is 83 or 84. She gets confused a lot. As we will also some day.
Maryland, who cares if Jon is getting bald?
Bald men are very sexy!
I don't CARE, per say, I just noticed it.
Just like we notice Kate's imperfections. No different to me.
Sarah said...
Does anything supersede a confidentiality agreement?
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We've talked about that here in the past. CAs are void in court, so any of the people who worked for TLC and J&K and signed one could not be held to the agreement if they're called to give a deposition and/or testify in court. Thinking of the nannies, babysitters, camera crews, producers, etc., I wonder if TFW's attorneys have discussed this pesky little detail with her yet. lol
It's always hard to see someone once so sharp lose their edge. Makes me think of my own mortality.
There's something sort of uncomfortable about a world without Barbara Waa Waa fawning over B listers and the occasional A lister.
I'm blanking on the term from contract law but basically you can't make a contract that violates basic human decency or law. For instance, you can't make a confidentiality contract that says that if your boss commits murder you're not allowed to say anything or be sued for breaking confidentiality. Same for child abuse. It's on the tip of my tongue and will prob come to me in the middle of the night.
Maryland's girl
You call Jon childish and ridiculous in one post and bust on him being bald in the next. That's when I stop taking anything you say seriously.
I hate hypocrites.
Cheryl
Summer Days And Nights said... 27
http://www.showbizspy.com/article/262118/kate-gosselin-angry-with-jon-gosselin-over-use-of-gun.html#mZ44XHYi2Mt7qPTO.99
“She is saying she’s dumbfounded that Jon didn’t just call 911 to report the trespasser."
Dumfounded? No, she's just plain dumb. Call 911? Oh, sure. He had no idea who this person was, he warned her, she persisted, he pulled out his gun, she still persisted. What was he supposed to say, "Could you hold on a minute while I call 911? Cops will be here in about 15 minutes. In the meantime, want to come in for a cup of coffee and a doughnut?"
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Well, according to Jon, he did give his unknown trespasser a WRITTEN warning before firing his gun. I would love for someone to explain how THAT went down. Did he walk up to his unknown potential assailant and hand her a note, then decide that she was an imminent threat and fire his warning shot?
Come on, people. If Kate went on national television and claimed that she gave someone trespassing on her property a written warning before firing a gun, you would be having a field day with it and rightly so. However, since Jon said something so utterly ridiculous, you're just letting it slide.
Genuine, that's all I can say about Jon's interview.
I find it strange that the View's message boar doesn't have one post about Jon? I've scrolled down pretty far, am I missing it? Every time tfw was on, there were tons.
Yes BaBa WaWa is getting up there in years. She has had a very long and successful career. Especially in a field dominated by men. However her attitude is off-putting. She comes off as the ultimate authority and is very snobbish. I've heard that she plans on retiring next year.
Weren't the kids in school today? Jon could have been back home in a matter of hours, well in time for the bus stop pickup. NYC actually isn't that far from them.
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Kate must have gone home yesterday after taping because she tweeted this last night:
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 11h
Playing an odd but fun game w my 6 using mini pool balls,called 'bubble gum in a dish' They made it up&play it dramatic/game show style #hm
Bald men are very sexy!
I think bald men are sexy when they own it and cut their hair very short.
"The most unexpected and disappointing thing is who was at the center of it," Kate told Today's Savannah Guthrie.
As for the suit against Jon, Kate said, "It has to be done for the safety and the future of my kids."
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I am convinced she is behind the pap pursuing Jon. I think she realized that even if Jon is guilty of hacking, wiretapping etc, it's ludicrous to say that it jeopardizes their safety. (eye roll) She had to up the ante, she had to make it APPEAR that their safety is in question when they're "visiting" with him. With the book coming out she's trying to make his behavior outdo her beatings. "see? at least I never pulled out a gun!"
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 24
Lots of people are doing the two job thing (localyocal included, right?
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That's correct! Sunday I will have my first day off since Labor Day for..wait for it...my EX mother in law's 83rd birthday. Yes, you read that right.
Someone remind me which boy TFW wrote the post about that is on Gosselinbook? Was it Aaden?
I wouldn't put it past TFW to have her 'people' contact Jon's jobs with her nasty insinuations, thus making sure that he can't hold a job, making him look like a deadbeat dad, her top priority in life.
You know, the same way the pap gets contacted to meet her at the grocery store. Carrier pidgeon, I think.
After thinking about it, I believe Jon was lying when he said 80% of the money earned while he was still filming was saved for the kids. That was when they bought the million dollar house..how did they do that, and live as large as they were, on just 20% of what they earned? Also, when Murr changed PA laws to better protect the Gosselin kids, didn't they say that work permits had never been gotten for all of those years of filming, and that not one penny had been saved in the kids' name? And after that law, they then began, or were forced to, save 15% for the kids? Steve was made the guardian of that money, so if anyone thinks Kate had no control over it, they better think again. I bet there is next to nothing left in those accounts.
Does anyone know where to find the ratings for a show? I was curious to see how Bethenny's ratings were as her show is on at the same time as The Today Show (with Hoda and Kathie Lee) and The View.
"I believe he was doing IT work for a bit, wasn't that what he was doing for Game Center or whatever it was, in addition to promotion and other contract work? All of that involves IT skills."
Earlier this year, Jon stated that if his work hours didn't mesh with his visitation with the kids, then he would merely quit that job, as the kids were more important, and that there were always jobs out there. So maybe he went though a lot of the local companies, and has a reputation for quitting , and that is why he can no longer find IT work?
Speaking as someone that has worked in the IT field, it's a 24-hour-a-day gig. Even when you're not in the office, you're on call. Even if it's 3am.
Any one notice the hollowness of WOS’s cheeks in the Inside Edition interview? They filmed her from her right side so it was more obvious, I guess. When she talked, you could see her cheeks seem to sink in when she talked. You don’t see it unless she is talking. You don’t really see a woman’s cheeks move that much or give that appearance except my mom, who is in her 70’s.
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Speaking as someone that has worked in the IT field, it's a 24-hour-a-day gig. Even when you're not in the office, you're on call. Even if it's 3am.
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Agree. Been there done that. I'm sure TFW gave him no slack when it was time for his custody and he had to work late.......
If you watch the tail end of the video of The View (on the ABC website) you will see that as the credits roll, Jon is clearly engaging in conversation with both Whoopie and Jenny. I also watched the part in question where Jenny may have dissed Jon. I'm of the opinion that Jenny said "Thanks for being a great dad, or I'll have to kick your butt.'. It sounded weird but I definately heard "Thanks for..." as she looked at him.
One thing I noticed about Jon, when he spoke, he made eye contact. Kate rarely does this, she's always looking off to the side, as if it find approval. Jon doesn't roll his eyes, huff, twitch or fidget like Kate does. The only thing is that you could tell he was either a bit nervous or wanted to get as much information out there in the short amount of time that he had, because he spoke rather quickly.
But he was succinct and articulate, and gave actually answers instead of alluding to things in an incoherent way.
Great interview Jon. You did well.
Not all IT jobs are the on-call variety.
Earlier this year, Jon stated that if his work hours didn't mesh with his visitation with the kids, then he would merely quit that job, as the kids were more important, and that there were always jobs out there. So maybe he went though a lot of the local companies, and has a reputation for quitting , and that is why he can no longer find IT work?
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From Round Table:
I imagine in your situation, people would say, Jon can’t hold a job?
"Yeah, they would say that because our mentality is job first then family instead of family first then job. That’s the advantage I had on reality television. I could spend time with my kids. It’s hard to get out of that mentality now because I have to go to work but what’s more important? There were times I left work from New Jersey, drove 5 hours to the school to pick up my sick kid, and kept them all day because my former wife was out of town and I was the emergency contact. To me it’s more important to be there for your children. You have to be there, always. Your job, if they don’t understand, then they don’t really care about you as an employee. Some people are, ‘Well, you know…’ there is no ‘well’ in my life. It’s family first, career, then the rest. I have had enough courage to say I’m leaving. I don’t even think about.
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Is this what you're referring to Winsesome?
Doesn't sound like he said he merely quit his jobs and that there were tons of other ones out there.
I think Jon said he put 80% of his part of the divorce settlement into a trust for the kids and this is why he is broke and implying that is why Kate is NOT broke. I could be wrong but that was my impression.
Earlier this year, Jon stated that if his work hours didn't mesh with his visitation with the kids, then he would merely quit that job, as the kids were more important, and that there were always jobs out there.
I remember him saying that, too, and thinking at the time...true, but having a job so you can support yourself, and thus them, is the most important thing.
Although, like the poster above, I can see TFW not cutting him any slack if he had to work on his custodial time and then telling the kids, 'See! Daddy doesn't care about you! He only cares about himself!'
I do have to say that the attitude of 'I'll just quit if it doesn't meet my needs this exact minute' seems a little...I don't know....lacadaisical? irresponsible? not good for your reputation?
"Is this what you're referring to Winsesome?
Doesn't sound like he said he merely quit his jobs and that there were tons of other ones out there."
No, that is not the interview where he said there were always jobs out there. At the time I was thinking maybe there are lots of jobs in your area, but not where I live. Also, he said the work place had to accommodate his schedule with the kids, or he would just quit. At the time, people here said that sounded good, to put your kids first, but that most kids like to eat, and if you don't have a job, then it becomes hard to feed them.
Vanessa at 41 ~Re comments about Jon's segment on The View's FB page: Look to your right, under "Recent Posts By Others on The View." Scroll down...there are several entries, all posted within the last 24 hours.
jen said... 56
Not all IT jobs are the on-call variety.
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I believe Jon has stated he's a Microsoft Certified System Engineer. I would assume MCSEs support business systems. If his company is supporting a client's systems and their critical server goes down at 3:00am and they pay for 24 hour support, you need to go in at 3:00am.
Jon's interview is posted on The View website in recent appearance (top row) and it's about 5 minutes.I thought he presented himself well and made a few good points about his time spent with the kids and clearing up the fact that he does 'support' them They did not allow him to finish the gun story about the safety and legality of having a firearm which I think would have helped his 'case' with the public.
and clearing up the fact that he does 'support' them
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It was kind of refreshing that he didn't understand what Barbara meant when she asked does he support them. Because "support" is more than just dollars, as TFW would have us believe. And that's the difference between TFW and him. She can only think in terms of dollars and points. His thinking goes beyond that.
Jon spoke pretty fast, he had a lot to say in a very short time, but you look into his eyes and they are alive. They smile, they show emotion, they make eye contact. His former wife has bitter, dead, shark eyes to go with her bitter, dead soul. He wins by a landslide.
Also, when Murr changed PA laws to better protect the Gosselin kids, didn't they say that work permits had never been gotten for all of those years of filming, and that not one penny had been saved in the kids' name?
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No, he never said that. He said not one penny had ever been paid directly to the children at that point. That doesn't mean Kate and/or Jon couldn't have put aside their payments for the children. TLC said in fact that was the intention, that it is up to the parents to decide that from the lump sums given to the parents.
We have never gotten a clear answer how much or little was saved for the children. It's been a mystery forever.
Also, when Murr changed PA laws to better protect the Gosselin kids, didn't they say that work permits had never been gotten for all of those years of filming, and that not one penny had been saved in the kids' name? And after that law, they then began, or were forced to, save 15% for the kids? Steve was made the guardian of that money, so if anyone thinks Kate had no control over it, they better think again. I bet there is next to nothing left in those accounts.
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I don't remember that being the case. During the hearings it was noted that there had been money set aside for the kids all along, but the new laws made it mandatory, with the specific amount required, according to Rep Murt and the DOL. Where was it reported that Steve was made the guardian of the money? Are you talking about before or after the new laws, because after the new law went into effect Steve had nothing to do with that fund.
Come on, people. If Kate went on national television and claimed that she gave someone trespassing on her property a written warning before firing a gun, you would be having a field day with it and rightly so. However, since Jon said something so utterly ridiculous, you're just letting it slide.
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The written was obviously a no trespass sign which in my neck of the woods are big and red and you can't miss them.
I would fully support TFW's right to use a firearm against any paparazzi who hunted her down all the way to her front door. Someone provided a link to a list of celebrities who have firearms and Angelina Jolie said yup I have one too and I won't hesitate to use it if anyone comes after my family and children. There would be no field day. Support it 100%. Maybe it's my upbringing, maybe it's living in a rural area and understanding the cops can't get there quickly, maybe it's understanding how many celebs have died at the hands of crazed stalkers, but I support a man or woman's right to pull their gun on anyone who comes after them onto their own property, period.
That restaurant said Kate's attorneys had contacted them. They have no reason to lie about that. I can't think of a single good reason on planet earth they would have to do that, especially when attorneys are not permitted to talk to another attorney's client. Calling their workplace is flirting with direct contact. What if he picked up the phone himself?
I think Rep Murt's point all along is that it's all well and good to pay the parents but they cannot be trusted to save and even if they are saving who is to say they won't dip into it later? It's happened many times. This is what happened to Missy Francis. Her mom was actually pretty militant about putting her money aside. For awhile. Then times got tough and Mom dipped in a little here a little there and before she knew it that trust account was falling so fast Missy didn't know what hit her. Missy had to steal her checks right out of the mailbox so her mother wouldn't touch it.
Murt's push was to pay the children directly and have a portion of it go into an irrevocable trust that couldn't be touched by the parents. That is the safest way to protect their money.
He never accused Jon and Kate of not saving for their kids. I'm not sure how he would know that without asking them to disclose their financial statements, which he has no power to do. He simply said it's very scary that they are not FORCED to save for them and that all parents should be forced/mandated to save because you can't trust them. I hope to God at least one of them has saved their money because that's a heck of a lot of money over the years and with interest could be even more.
That's another thing I never understood from a PR standpoint. I think TFW should not have stuck TLC's lobby on this to stop the bill. I think TFW's best play would have been to support it.
She could have easily spun it like, WE save for our kids and we protect OUR kids and OUR set is completely safe, and I fully support any law that makes the protections WE have already put into place the law for EVERYONE who may not do what we do.
She would have been the hero.
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I don't remember that being the case. During the hearings it was noted that there had been money set aside for the kids all along, but the new laws made it mandatory, with the specific amount required, according to Rep Murt and the DOL. Where was it reported that Steve was made the guardian of the money? Are you talking about before or after the new laws, because after the new law went into effect Steve had nothing to do with that fund."
I don't remember when it was said that Steve was the kids' guardian, or the keeper of their funds, but I do remember at the time, how everyone here thought that was really strange, and wondered why Jon went along with this.
Most wonder how Kate's 6 fans can love her like they do, and think she can do no wrong, and also feel she is just beautiful. After reading here the past few days, are some people doing the same thing with Jon? Thinking he can do no wrong, and is handsome, etc?, because they like him? Now I am better able to understand Kate's fans thinking I guess..if you like someone, they can do little wrong, and are prefect in most ways. I hope that reasoning about Jon doesn't become too prevalent, or we will be no better than Kate's fans. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder for sure.
Thanks Improbable Dreams
The written was obviously a no trespass sign which in my neck of the woods are big and red and you can't miss them.
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Of course. I seriously doubt that he pulled out a pencil and paper and wrote out "You are trespassing, please leave." Who would think to do that at a time when he felt threatened? He most likely called her attention to the posted signs.
Jon's wrongs have been pointed out here ad nauseum.
There's a difference between thinking someone can do no wrong, and moving on from things that occurred years and years ago and giving someone who has proven themselves the benefit of the doubt. I don't think there is a single person here who thinks Jon isn't a very flawed human being, like all of us. If Kate would stop her nonsense and work to prove herself like Jon did, I always said I would change my tune.
Exactly. Do you see the big red sign? It says no trespass! Please leave my property!
That's how I imagine it went down.
"I think Jon said he put 80% of his part of the divorce settlement into a trust for the kids and this is why he is broke and implying that is why Kate is NOT broke. I could be wrong but that was my impression."
Thanks for the... "memory", Exterior Designer. That's what I thought I remembered reading about too. I think it was discussed here, -or maybe on GOP, I'm not sure-, and it had something to do with Jon finding a way to secure the money away from TFW's greedy little hands. People did speculate that the money you put away in an account for your children is not your money anymore, so it can't be used as CS, aka financing your ex-spouse's lifestyle of unnecessary personal luxury and crass lazyness.
Thanks Improbable Dreams
And in fairness to Kate, you know what? That was money earned in the marriage and belonged to both of them equally even if his name was on the paycheck. She would have had every right to stop him if she had a problem with him socking away 80% of his money or their money. As far as I know that never happened. It would be nice if she would disclose what she did to protect them and what she supports (she always seems to spin it that there is no money or little money, except for that time she spun it like oh we have tons of it, so who knows), but we do know that it would have been very easy for her to stop him from doing that.
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 3m
Dear @MiloandJack &my other southern Twitter friends, is Baltimore 2 far of a road trip 4 you?
#Iwanttomeetmyfriendsdownsouth
#andothers2
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Careful what you wish for, Kate! And no way will Milo come--not even with a personalized public invitation from the WOS herself!
Kate must be desperate to make sure she has some interest in Baltimore.
People did speculate that the money you put away in an account for your children is not your money anymore, so it can't be used as CS, aka financing your ex-spouse's lifestyle of unnecessary personal luxury and crass lazyness.
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You know from a financial standpoint this actually makes a heck of a lot of sense.
There is no accounting for child support in PA. If she wants to spend it on manicures she can. So if he socks it all away into an irrevocable trust all of a sudden there's no money for child support for Kate to spend on herself and he just let himself fall into arrears. Too bad so sad. It almost sounds like Kate finally just gave up on trying to get it out of him when the child support thing was dropped. He's not going to give her a dime more than what the children need for themselves and she finally gave up on it. I would rather the children's money be given to them that way then given directly to Kate where she'll probably blow it all. THIS explains why she's so, so, so bitter about money. Jon found a legal way to sock the money away from her and still get it to the kids and she's ticked.
Wendy Williams and a gal who writes a celeb blog were just discussing Jon Gosselin. I am home and putting off a chore I need to do and that is why I turned on the tv....oh who cares, so I watched Wendy Williams...lol
Her guest, (Chloe?) explained how Jon cannot work in IT with these wire-tapping, identity theft, and computer hacking charges levied against him.
It is quite obvious Wendy and her guest were pro Jon. Audience applause..... :)
Jon is likable, genuine, sincere. Pointed out as well he is working at 2 restaurants. The day of the gun incident he was headed home from work to change and then pick up is kids from school.
The paparazzi would not leave after he asked her to and there are warning signs posted on the property.
But, of course, if Milo DOES show, her unveiling will be just as momentous as when Willy Wonka emerged from the cloistered Chocolate Factory. Maybe Milo will even throw down her cane and do a somersault like Gene Wilder did, hehehe.
Baltimore is near D.C. Milo's in the Deep South. It's a two day trip, Kate.
However VERY interesting that she's reaching out directly to Milo to meet her! I think she's just as curious as us! Please Milo, take her up on it.
Will Milo say no to a direct invitation? Kate's never done that that I know of.
No, he never said that. He said not one penny had ever been paid directly to the children at that point. That doesn't mean Kate and/or Jon couldn't have put aside their payments for the children. TLC said in fact that was the intention, that it is up to the parents to decide that from the lump sums given to the parents.
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When the divorce papers were filed ROL immediately put the divorce papers on their site. I remember that clearly. They put them up so quickly that they didn't blank out certain things such as Jon's phone number. Also at the very bottom of the document there was an email included for some reason. It was an email from someone at Kate's bank saying that per Kate's request the transfers for the eleven accounts had been done.
There was an account for Jon, one for Kate, and a household account which both Jon and Kate could access and it was to be used for paying bills. That left 8 accounts which I assumed were the accounts for the kids. Of course, there is no way of knowing how much was in any of the accounts. I was always curious what kind of transferring of money was going on by Kate right at the time she filed those divorce papers. I'm sure we'll never know.
Winsomeone said... 74
I understand what you're trying to say but I don't blindly follow and promise to support people 'no matter what'. I like Jon. I think he's a great dad and is trying to to the right thing for his kids. Believe me, if he ever does anything to to make me think differently then that's it. He won't get my support. There have been many people I've been a fan of but when their behavior crosses the line then that's it for me. Some examples....Mel Gibson, Bethanny Frankel, Barbara Walters, Arnold S. ...etc.
Kate must have gone home yesterday after taping because she tweeted this last night:
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Then she maintained her normal custodial day and there would be no point to Jon rushing home if it's her day.
Come On said... 42
Well, according to Jon, he did give his unknown trespasser a WRITTEN warning before firing his gun. I would love for someone to explain how THAT went down.
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I'd say it probably went down like this.
As she drove onto the property where Jon resides, there was a sign (usually rather large print so people notice them) that said NO TRESPASSING. Some even have VIOLATORS WILL BE PROSECUTED under the NO TRESPASSING part.
I would guess Kate probably has these same signs (written warnings) outside her property. If not, she should.
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 15m
Dear @MiloandJack &my other southern Twitter friends, is Baltimore 2 far of a road trip 4 you?
#Iwanttomeetmyfriendsdownsouth
#andothers2
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Can you believe this tweet?? A road trip. Yeah, I'd guess that would be a little difficult to organize and get to by tonight or tomorrow. She is such a phony b*tch.
Believe me, if he ever does anything to to make me think differently then that's it. He won't get my support.
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Exactly. I still don't fully trust him, all due respect. He's still on the banner. I always cringe when I hear he's doing an interview. I cringe when he says things like he's open to the children filming, even if I think he probably said that to try to calm Kate down. I think the job thing is an ongoing problem and that he's been far too picky about it and moved around too much, though I don't know the whole story. But these are nitpicks that I don't see as that significant in the grand scheme of things. I think he is the kids' only hope of a normal childhood. But it's a "hope". I'm not assured it's a promise yet. I'll support anyone who I think is really trying, overall, to do the right thing by these children, and if they ever stop trying to do the right thing I won't support them anymore. I don't agree with each and every single choice nor do I think you're required to agree with every single choice to like someone overall. I don't think we'd have any friends at all if we're required to support each and every single thing our friends ever did.
If her fans could be assured she'll stay longer than 25 minutes, spend time with them, and not rush off to a utility closet 20 minutes in, they might be more willing to fork over their hard earned dollars to make such a trip.
Lauren @ljohnson2006 12m
@Kateplusmy8 Will you post your book tour schedule on your website? #LoveIsInTheMIx
Um, Lauren, honestly, I think the tour is almost over! If she didn't publish it before Staten Island and Paramus, and with onlyToronto and Baltimore left, I doubt if she's going to do it now! Sheeple are funny!
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 18m
Dear @MiloandJack &my other southern Twitter friends, is Baltimore 2 far of a road trip 4 you? #Iwanttomeetmyfriendsdownsouth #andothers2
Let's hear how Gladys answers this one!
Fans are still asking her when she's coming to cities near them. I have never seen a book tour NOT promoted like this one has been. What in the heck was she thinking?
What was the turn-out in New Jersey?
The thing is too it's almost 11 o'clock on the east coast I think, right?
She knows full well they can't make it in time this late in the day.
I wonder if she also realizes at 11 oclock their time most people are long at work by then.
Berks Neighbour said....57
But he was succinct and articulate, and gave actually answers instead of alluding to things in an incoherent way.
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Yes, given a chance to speak without being mocked by TWF, Jon is proving to be the articulate one. TWF's responses are getting harder to understand. She seldom completes a thought...expects everyone to know and understand her situation and fill in the blanks. It's not working.
I seem to remember that after the divorce Jon put money in a fund for the kids that neither of them can touch. When he talks about putting 80% away for them I believe this is what he's talking about...money HE put aside for HIS kids' futures. The 15% that TFW was forced to set aside is in an account that she can tap in to for health, education, etc. Two different accounts.
As far as the whole writing warning thing, when there are "no trespassing" and/or "no trespassing violators will be prosecuted" signes posted, it is considered to be written warning. Wat Jon needs to say is that the pap was given written warning by virtue of the fact that there are no trespassing signs posted.
TFW when she speaks mostly teases, speaks in innuendos and hints, and says things that could have multiple meanings.
I think she doesn't understand that speaking in a clear manner and saying exactly what you mean is not only much easier to listen to, but infinitely less annoying.
So funny, Jon has the gift of gab far more than she does.
capecodmomma said:
But when Hardy asked DC Miller if the priest contacted her about the fight she said no. I thought, okay why didn't your husband tell you. So I got suspicious of her husband but I still wasn't sure. It was a great series.
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Yes, that raised a red flag with me. Your son gets in a fight with his best friend, the priest tells you about it, but you don't tell your wife when you are each sharing about your day? That's something that parents would normally discuss with each other - a fight at school.
Although they had me suspecting Nige for quite a while! Or perhaps his biological mother. Great series!
Where can I see Broadchurch? I get BBC but they don't seem to be reairing it, and I don't have it on demand. Waa! :)
Thanks for the answers concerning my question on confidentiality agreements. I am new here so if this was discussed previously I was not aware of it, sorry. :) Last I will ask about it.
I understand an illegal contract, as in asking an employee to turn their head the other day when a crime is committed would not hold up in court.
If the restriction of "non disclosure" was too much for her conscience because she witnessed things (after signing) she felt were morally wrong, and she broke her silence can she be sued?
Maybe with extenuating circumstances the monetary reward in a suit to the holder of the contract would be very small.
Thank you Turtle Logic and other book industry insiders for sharing info on how book signings usually work.
Re the comments on how Kate appeared during several interviews - I wondered if she was on a prescribed drug of some kind. In at least two of the clips I watched (she's wearing that orangy dress), she has what I call sleepy eyes. Perhaps its some type of anti-anxiety medication? That would make sense.
If the restriction of "non disclosure" was too much for her conscience because she witnessed things (after signing) she felt were morally wrong, and she broke her silence can she be sued?
Maybe with extenuating circumstances the monetary reward in a suit to the holder of the contract would be very small.
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She could sue, but there's not a judge in the land that is going to stick their neck out and say you can't disclose child abuse and other misdeeds per your confidentiality contract.
Confidentiality contracts are supposed to keep people from blabbing juicy details about divorce and finances and whereabouts and house layouts and baby fathers and egg donors and other private tidbits that violate a celeb's right to privacy. They were not designed to help the celeb cover up bad behavior.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 70
Sorry for repeating what you said. I was reading from the top and didn't see your response.
I don't know about anywhere else, but in IN landowners usually don't bother with a verbal warning. They figure if you're dumb enough to enter posted property, you aren't going to listen when they kindly ask you to leave.
It's funny how a firing a few shots in the air helps people read better. Who needs phonics? :-)
Welcome Sarah by the way. I am STLL amazed that we still get new people popping in now and again.
Too funny. If you type in TFW's name into google, the second auto-fill search that comes up is "Kate Gosselin How She Fooled The World". Go Robert! :)
Oh and I was trying to Google her inside edition interview. I don't watch her interviews, but after everyone mentioning how she seemed like she was drunk, I figured I have to watch a little bit of it!
Come on said:
Well, according to Jon, he did give his unknown trespasser a WRITTEN warning before firing his gun. I would love for someone to explain how THAT went down. Did he walk up to his unknown potential assailant and hand her a note, then decide that she was an imminent threat and fire his warning shot?
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I believe the written warning is signs Jon has on his property such as "No Trespassing" and the like. He may also have a sign saying "Trespassers May be Shot" (I've seen such signs on country properties before). That would constitute the written warning portion.
Mom of 8 (count 'em 8) makes top 40 on X-Factor!
Victoria Carriger has 8 kids ages 4 - 20. Amazing voice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0mZTvsx2yc
I don't know about anywhere else, but in IN landowners usually don't bother with a verbal warning. They figure if you're dumb enough to enter posted property, you aren't going to listen when they kindly ask you to leave.
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Same here.
It was not unheard of for someone to shoot at a trespasser even without a warning. The ole shoot them a few feet from their boots trick.
When I was growing up I remember my parents explaining about posted and no trespassing signs and how serious it was. You were taught from an early age a healthy respect for those signs and to turn your little hiney around right away if you ever see them. I guess that's partly why I find this incident so shocking that someone would disrespect a clear sign like that. The law of the land in rural areas is you do NOT ignore such signs.
There is also a fear, and those who are in rural areas know this, of walking onto a wooded property like that and being mistaken for a deer and shot. Quite frankly that was a bigger concern than anything. There are also other dangers. People snowmobiling and not seeing you, off-road vehicles, heavy farm machinery. All kinds of dangers. You don't mess around on private property, period.
Vanessa said:
Is this what you're referring to Winsesome?
Doesn't sound like he said he merely quit his jobs and that there were tons of other ones out there.
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Thanks for the quote. People read what they want to read, hear what they want to hear. I guess for some, that quote translated into "I quit jobs whenever I feel like it."
What, no tweets about her coupon site this week?
"I believe Jon has stated he's a Microsoft Certified System Engineer. I would assume MCSEs support business systems. If his company is supporting a client's systems and their critical server goes down at 3:00am and they pay for 24 hour support, you need to go in at 3:00am."
That's assuming he's responsible for server maintenance. I work in IT (as a systems engineer) and I am not on call 24/7. Most of my coworkers are not either. If a server goes down that affects a large number of users, then of course there are those who would have to be available to take action (this does not happen very often). But it's simply not accurate to say everyone who works in IT (MCSE or not) has to be on call all the time.
Really Winsomeone - you think we are just "as bad" as Kate's 6 fans. That we refuse to see reality? That we believe Jon can do no wrong?
Then you and I will just have to agree to disagree. You don't like or trust Jon. Fine and good. But don't start comparing posters here to Kate's sheeple just because we don't happen to agree with your viewpoint. Thank you.
Anyone besides me see the irony in this?
Baltimore Book Fest @BmoreBookFest now
Ladies get ready! Tonight we have the @NannyDiaries, @AndreaSyrtash & @jeffwilser, @TheRealAliL, w/ an appearance by @Kateplusmy8!
Winsome - Regarding Steve on the account/guardian:
At the time of the divorce, Hailey
released notes that Jon had allegedly written down (for the record, I think they were legit) and one note was discussing finances and custody. On it, Jon wrote that there was $900,000 in a trust and the note next to it was "Steve trustee witness".
Here's the link: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/09/01/jon-gosselin-to-kate-give_n_701780.html
You've got to love how nothing ever dies on the internet.
Anyway, my impression at the time was not that Steve was a guardian but that Steve was a witness when they signed the trust paperwork. That may not be the case, and at this point I think it's a moot point.
As others have said, Jon is human, just like the rest of us. But as of late, he has walked his talk much more consistently then Kate. He gets the benefit of my doubt for that reason.
What don't her fans get?
She's not posting her tour schedule for a reason she doesn't even tell them when she's gong to be on TV.
She doesn't want to meet them she doesn't want to sign books for them her action and laziness shows this.
What don't they get?
Insert Creative Username Here said... 107
Too funny. If you type in TFW's name into google, the second auto-fill search that comes up is "Kate Gosselin How She Fooled The World". Go Robert! :)
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Or plastic surgery.
Thinking again about Jenny McCarthy's remark to Jon "You had better be a good Dad, or I'll kick your butt". I think it was just an off-the-cuff remark, nothing more.
I've been following this saga for many, many (too) years and even I get a bit lost in all the doings over the years. Jenny probably got a 5 minute brief about the Gosselins before the show and didn't know the ends and outs of the whole train wreck. So those who have been staying informed about all of this, the remark seemed insensitive and quite rude. To an "outsider" it may have just another comment to garnish some laughs. For me, I'll give Jenny a pass on this one.
Thank you Admin! and thank you for the answer too. Civilized blog you have here.
Its logical to think that if subpoenaed in a criminal action, any testimony would supersede the nda, but yes (and you answered my question) what if it was outside of that venue and done because she just had to relieve her conscience.
I have to think that if the alleged journal is authentic, there must be witnesses. But they know her litigious wrath. In my mind I put that together with the fact that EARLY ON it was disclosed there at least 40 employees who quit or were fired.
Why did so many leave? This is not normally a field characterized by high turnover.
Wonder what the total has been over the last 9 years.
If TFW wants to do a TV show she should go on Catfish to meet Milo. Oh and I just realizedthat when she says there is huge interest in her and kids doing a show she meant her sheep that tweet her toncome back on TV, not the Tnetworks
Does anything supersede a confidentiality agreement?
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Yes, child abuse! Kate can have anyone and everyone she wants sign confidentiality agreements forbidding them from ever talking about anything that they ever see, but if anyone witnesses child abuse they can report to CPS/DCFS or the police without any fear of repercussion. Kate knows this. She is a nurse. She bullies and instills fear into everyone else who don't know that, so they won't tell for fear of lawsuit. And we know she sues! Teachers, doctors, nurses are all mandated reporters of abuse. Thus, if I were in Kate's presence and witnessed abuse I would be obligated by law to report it. I wonder if she abused the children in front of Angie Krall, the nurse she had for the babies that was paid for by the state. If so, she was a mandated reporter too. You can get in trouble for not reporting suspected abuse if you are a mandated state reporter. The laws protect us and the children. Not Kate! Her ridiculously overworked and double digit length CA is irrelevant for any and all actions of abuse. Those people that witnessed it should/need to come forward. I have always been upset that they witnessed such horrible acts and did nothing! Disgusting and no excuse for it.
White Organza...79 Jon said 80% of gross income for three years. He wasn't specific on whose gross income it was.
Millicent...100 I agree. Because of the story lines, anyone of them could've done it for one reason or another. I briefly suspected the medium at one point.
To AnnieD (#109): Wow! Thanks so much for the X-factor link. Victoria Carriger -- single Mom of 8 -- is very talented!! Here is a thought: Why don't we make an effort here to showcase Moms who are mom to lots of kids to show TFW that she isn't as "special" as she thinks. Of course, it would be Moms who willingly go public with their stories, like the Mom (and Dad) on the Today show who was interviewed after recently giving birth to her ELEVENTH (or something like that) BOY! TFMJG sure is a legend in her own mind!
Sounds like TFW is worried about Baltimore Book Fair. She wants her few fans to drive in for warm bodies and support. Her book signings must have been a disaster!
The best part of her tour were her television appearances! She probably regrets signing on to the book fair. Maybe she's afraid her non- fans will show up!
Does anyone have an idea how many books she has sold ?? I'm thinking with a little help from the TV audiences about 1,500 to 2,000.
She better do well this weekend!
Jon Gosselin was a topic of conversation on Wendy Williams today. Wendy and her guest from some gossip site had nothing but goos things to say about Jon. Wendy who really calls it as she sees it says she doesn't understand why everyone is ragging on him for waiting tables because at least he's working to provide for his kids. Her guest said she spoke with Jon last night and that he really is a nice guy. Lots of applause from the audience.
Admin, I too learned early on to have as you call it a "healthy respect" for No Trespassing signs. Keep Out meant keep out. When I was a child I thought of it as selfish.
The realization though is living in rural country especially when surrounded by woods, residents are bothered by hunters, ATVSs, dirt bikes and teens wanting a place to drink and make a campfire. Add to that list for Jon - paparazzi and stalkers.
I think his actions were respectful and I admire him for it. It is his and his children's home and she was dutifully warned but refused.
I watched Inside Edition. I didn't think she seemed drunk, just a bit slow and fumbling for words as usual. But I did notice a mark on her nose- is this a scratch or could she have had nose surgery?
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 71
That restaurant said Kate's attorneys had contacted them. They have no reason to lie about that. I can't think of a single good reason on planet earth they would have to do that, especially when attorneys are not permitted to talk to another attorney's client. Calling their workplace is flirting with direct contact. What if he picked up the phone himself?
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If you look at the twitter account that tweeted that, it's from a Black Dog Cafe in St. Paul, MN. Those idiots called the wrong restaurant!
Speaking about Jon and money and the kids I remembered a passage from RH's book that I had to write up because it is truly hypocritical, demeaning, and just absolutely nasty. It also shows Kate's control of the finances.
June 6, 2007
When Jon got home he had the nerve to lie to me about buying lunch in Philly that day! I knew he was lying, his eyes were as big as saucers!!! But he insisted that he 'didn't have lunch' when really he had put it on the credit card!!!! That was the absolute end to the most horrible day in history!!!! Why am I so unloved that he has to continually lie to me? Am I that stupid? Is he that character less? Evidently he cares more about his OWN fear or whatever that lying is okay! Does he really think that I would never EVER find out? Just be honest weak boy!!!!! Some life lesson he is teaching his kids! Great we will have a house full of lying kids...that makes me completely sick!!!!!!
Okay...where to begin...this is in response to whether or not Jon dared have the nerve to buy himself lunch that day. Mind you, he was the only one working, she was at home and she ordered him around about how any money was spent. She has real problems if this makes for the worst day in history. Those who live in glass houses...lying, Kate?? Really, Kate? The act of purchasing lunch also shows just how unloved Kate is?? Weak boy?!? How nice. Did she ever love him? This was in June of 2007. The show had barely started. She wasn't famous yet. That ego was clearly there before TLC and only made worse over the years.
Based on that reaction, no way Kate was saving money for her children. She was in charge of all money, including anything Jon did as well. These are the words of a truly very sick woman!
I'm sure that Jon's lawyers know the name of the pap, who was with her (my guess is that there was a driver) and who, if anyone, sent her. Although this could have been just a random happening, it smells of set up. What makes it smell even more is TFW's initial blasé attitude about the whole thing when she was initially contacted about it in the parking lot by her old friend Chris.
I think any interviewer should be forewarned that TFW speaks in code. If they aren't given the keys to her cryptic codes prior to her interviews, then they will just be confused by the interviews. TFW definitely looked out of it during her inside edition interview. I thought these interviews were to promote her cookbook and her ability to showcase her love of cooking with her children. This media tour is very similar to the CC interviews when she didn't even mention them. The interviewer had to pull any mention of CC out of her. TFW's interviews always revolve around her problems with Jon and the kids miss filming. In this latest round, what happened to her love of cooking and trying to promote her new book? All she needed to tell interviewers is that she is here to promote her book and she doesn't want to talk about Jon or the lawsuit. She completely blanks out about why she is on these shows, which is to promote her cookbook.
And begging Milo to come to her Baltimore book fair shows how desperate she is for any fans to show up.
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 3m
Dear @MiloandJack &my other southern Twitter friends, is Baltimore 2 far of a road trip 4 you?
#Iwanttomeetmyfriendsdownsouth
#andothers2
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Of course she's inviting her Twitter friends to Baltimore. She needs love, and that's the only way she is going to get some. Imagine how she will feel when she is in the company of REAL authors who actually have fans...and there sits Kart all alone hugging her cookbook. Please, Milo, go save her from the heartbreak of being alone, and the humiliation of being IGNORED!!
Echoing those comments about caution of going on private property in rural area. Especially during hunting season. Hunt clubs are out in areas they either own or lease or have permission to be on. Wear red or orange, or you might get mistaken for a deer.
I would love to go to Baltimore, one of my favorite authors Lois McMasterBujold well be there. however I had commitments for Fri and sat already. The Neptune Festival inn Virginia Beach is this weekend also. I do hope someone can give a report from Baltimore, sounds like it's a wonderful event with a wide variety of authors.
Layla, we are counting on you and your athlete bodyguards!
Admin 96...
School, not work! ;
Admin -- You can watch the first episode of "Broadchurch" for free on TV.com. The entire series is available for purchase on Amazon instant video. It's very good. I haven't had time to watch the last 2 episodes, so I appreciate that everyone refrained from posting spoilers.
I recall Jon saying around the time of the divorce that he had set up irrevocable trusts for the kids and put most of his money into them, and that neither he nor TFMJG could touch it. Maybe that's what he means by the 80%?
I agree that Jon's "written warning" was most likely No Trespassing signs or something similar.
Did anyone ever report on the NJ book signing? I don't recall seeing
anything about the numbers of people there.
Millicent 103, yes!! Kate had sleepy eyes in the inside edition video. Her lids look heavy and she blinks in slow motion. Plus she is slurring a little. It's subtle unless you're looking for it. But once you suspect it and watch it again..yow.
I think that the idea that Steve is the executor of kids' accounts came from notes that (allegedly) came from Jon. Either the name Steve, or maybe his initials, were written on the paper, which started speculation. If any of this is wrong, feel free to correct me.
Admin, I googled Broadchurch episodes, and a number of links came up for supposedly free viewing of full episodes. Here is one of them:
http://www.tv.com/shows/broadchurch/
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 99
TFW when she speaks mostly teases, speaks in innuendos and hints, and says things that could have multiple meanings.
I think she doesn't understand that speaking in a clear manner and saying exactly what you mean is not only much easier to listen to, but infinitely less annoying.
So funny, Jon has the gift of gab far more than she does.
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TFW thinks The Gift Of Gab means she uses lots of words before she finally shuts up. She thinks 'um' 'honestly' 'like' and more 'um's count as words so she wins.
BTW, now that it is the day after Jon's appearance on the view, is Jon prancing across parking lots waxing poetically about the chairs of his dreams? His new besties? Are the sheeple complimenting him for doing it all for his kids and sacrificing himself to do whatever it takes to provide for his children?
No? Not yet?
Maybe he needs to dress like a Chippendale and trot around outside a Target store or two. That always seems to instill love and devotion in the sheeple.
So Kate is inviting fanz to the Baltimore book show? Has hell frozen over? Is it possible that the poor showing at her signings is finally breaking down her delusions?
I think that the reason she never gets hard questions in interviews is because people get that she is delusional, and, her mental health is fragile. If entertainment shows went the way of 'news' shows, with frequent gotcha moments, no one would appear on their shows.
Larry King was masterful at conducting seemingly soft interviews, and then letting the person snarl themselves up. He let the viewers judge for himself. In the end, if someone was lying, it was pretty obvious to the viewers.
By the way, I didn't realize this, but there will be a Season 2 of Broadchurch. Also, Fox picked up the rights to do a remake of Broadchurch ! I was reading an interview with the creator who said that there are alternate endings and the Fox production may end differently. Wow.]
Okay, enough about Broadchurch LOL
So I viewed the ET, Inside Edition and Extra interviews. I did not see where she was "drugged" up, just nervous and trying to remember her talking points. This was not about the cookbook because all you'd hear out of her mouth was "safety concern". That sounds to me like she is going after him for having a gun. Jon can't even wipe his butt without her looking for some way to get full custody.
I cannot believe looking at her face that she is the same person from the original show. I can't put my finger on it, but she does seem even more remote (if that's possible), nervous (hand flapping) and if you watch, her eyes dart around all the time (sign of lying). She has no ability to think on her feet and stuck with her talking points. Pretty sure all questions had to be submitted prior to any interview because her "keeper", Steve, is aware she cannot go off point.
She is so humorless and cold.
If you look at the twitter account that tweeted that, it's from a Black Dog Cafe in St. Paul, MN. Those idiots called the wrong restaurant!
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I have my doubts about them getting calls from TMZ or Kate's lawyers. I think that tweet was a hoax.
If anyone called them, they would first have to look up their phone number, whether through google or their website which is posted on their twitter ID. Both queries would show that they are located in MN, not PA. Their twitter name and twitter bio also says that they are in St. Paul.
Anyone would have to be an idiot to think they were calling the place where Jon works. I doubt lawyers and the people at TMZ would really be that stupid.
With all the stories about Jon and that he worked at a restaurant that has the same name, I think they just did it as a joke or they were punked.
Seems TFW is finally getting her cruise. Unfortunately for her the boat is sinking.
#sofuntitanic
OT I was listening to NPR at lunchtime and they did a segment on a
newly coined psychiatric manifestation called "The Truman Delusion"
where people believe they are living in a reality show. It was
fascinating. They referenced this article
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2013/09/16/130916fa_fact_marantz
Come On said... 42
''....Well, according to Jon, he did give his unknown trespasser a WRITTEN warning before firing his gun. I would love for someone to explain how THAT went down. Did he walk up to his unknown potential assailant and hand her a note, then decide that she was an imminent threat and fire his warning shot?
Come on, people. If Kate went on national television and claimed that she gave someone trespassing on her property a written warning before firing a gun, you would be having a field day with it and rightly so. However, since Jon said something so utterly ridiculous, you're just letting it slide. .''
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The written warning has been explained. The posted no trespassing signs are ''written warning'', which the stalker ignored...just as she ignored his verbal warnings, and even Jon pulling his gun didn't stop her. The stalker only listened when Jon fired his weapon.
So, come on, Come on...just admit that no matter what Jon said, you'd consider it ridiculous, and never ever let anything slide, just because it is Jon.
I don't agree regarding TFW being asked about these hard questions about Jon since these interviews were supposed to be about her new cookbook. Her keeper (Steve) or her PR firm should have indicated prior to these interviews that this should be a showcase for her cookbook, and even possibly a demo of one or more of her recipes in this book. Instead the interviews turned into the typical questions regarding her lawsuit against Jon and her dating problems because she has 8 kids. She spoke nothing about her recipes. Is she going to at least have a demonstration of one of the book recipes at this fair in Maryland? Maybe Steve will make her pizza recipe. She can at least have him look like he's necessary for her book tour if he's helping her prepare Uncle Steve's pizza, as opposed to hiding with her in back rooms.
The way this booktour is going, perhaps her book should be renamed to "Kate's Cooked" Book.
Ally: I see people don't agree with Manhattan on Amazon. I wrote a comment myself, and I did think your review was excellent and truthful.
I hope customers are not duped (lol) into buying this book based on what it promises- I think your review will be very helpful to cookbook readers.
So it's in the Parenting section, not cookbooks??
If TFW is such a bestselling author, would she be begging fans aka Milo who she apparently never even met, to have to travel far and spend money for gas and other expenses (including a room, depending how far she lives) to get a signed book from her? This book tour is far beyond a normal book tour. People who go to these book signings aren't required to travel hundreds of miles to get a lousy book signed.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 104
''.....She could sue, but there's not a judge in the land that is going to stick their neck out and say you can't disclose child abuse and other misdeeds per your confidentiality contract.''
''.....They were not designed to help the celeb cover up bad behavior''
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I believe that TFW did use the CA to help cover her bad behavior. Now that she is no longer backed by TLC and/or Laverne and Shirley, I believe that the fear of violating the CA has lessened greatly! I suspect that there are MANY people that have been silenced by the signed CAs are ready and willing to spill their guts in discovery demands!
I just watched the inside edition interview. TWF didn't seem drunk to me. Her eyes seem shifty, as in they can't stay in one spot for long.
I thought it was funny in one of the interviews she said that she talks while she cooks. And (supposedly) one of the twins told her that she needed a cooking show. BBhahahaha! TWF is so transparent. But just listening to her voice, I literally get a headache. I don't understand how these shows can keep having her on.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 110
''....When I was growing up I remember my parents explaining about posted and no trespassing signs and how serious it was. You were taught from an early age a healthy respect for those signs and to turn your little hiney around right away if you ever see them. I guess that's partly why I find this incident so shocking that someone would disrespect a clear sign like that. The law of the land in rural areas is you do NOT ignore such signs.''
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I think that anyone that grows up in the country are taught from a very early age to respect other people's property. The Texas author John Henry Faulk was once asked to describe Texans in one sentence, and he said, ''Get off my property!''
Like you, I was shocked that someone would actually be on Jon's private property, and not leave until he fired his weapon. No wonder Jon was so upset...followed onto dirt roads all the way to his house, ignoring the posted ''written warnings'', and then leaving her car to take photos.
Jon has had years and years of being bad mouthed and harassed by TFMJG's FEMALE fans, so I'm thinking that the very fact that it was a woman added to his stress level.
So Kate is inviting fanz to the Baltimore book show? Has hell frozen over? Is it possible that the poor showing at her signings is finally breaking down her delusions?
I can see the head sheeple blow the trumpet like they're going to battle. The 6 sheep drop what they're doing, pack an overnight bag and hop on the highway.
Nah, I'm sure Milo will find another excuse why he, I mean she can't go up there.
It reminds me of an old show from the 80s, The Newheart Show. The maid of the hotel, was from a wealthy family but she wanted to make her own way in life. Her name was Stephanie. She was VERY vain and self absorbed. Her boyfriend Michael, who was a pushover and very devoted to her, was wrapped around her finger. Well, in one episode, Stephanie and Michael were at this public event. Stephanie felt that she wasn't getting enough attention from the "mediocre" locals. Stephanie demanded that Michael help get everyone's attention on her. Michael stood away from her, acting like he didnt know her. He would start saying "Wow, isn't that (insert actress name)! "She is so beautiful, look at her hair, her dress, amazing!"
Michael, the boyfriend remind me of the head sheep and Stephanie reminds me of TWF.
Does TFW realize Baltimore is barely over the Mason-Dixon Line?
In the response from Robert's attorney that admin posted, there was a second attorney for Jon listed, a Richard Orwig. A quick google indicates he is a will, estate, trust kind of attorney. Perhaps he is the one that handles the children's trust account.
It looks like TFW is on some panel tonight with the author of the Nanny Diaries! You know the expose about nannying for rich cold bitches? Oh the irony! LOLOL
Exterior Designer said... 60
I think Jon said he put 80% of his part of the divorce settlement into a trust for the kids and this is why he is broke and implying that is why Kate is NOT broke. I could be wrong but that was my impression.
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His exact words were "I put 80% of the gross income of the show for three years in a trust for them." He would not have had the power to do that single-handedly. If, in fact, 80% of the gross income of the show was set aside for the children, it was done by Jon AND Kate, not solely by Jon.
I have just seen that pompous, arrogant, irritatingly grandiose eleventh hour tweet to all her fans to come to come to Baltimore to see her.
Honestly, words fail me.
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I don't understand why any of these shows would want her on. If they neither discuss her crook book nor ask pertinent questions, just what is the point? Why cater to her?
I doubt this will post, as usual, but giving it nor more try.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 5h
@Kateplusmy8 HaHa...I'm way down yonder as U know...:) U'd have 2 "Air -O-Plane" me in 4that long a distance! Have fun N Baltimore!
If Milo really wanted to meet Saint Kate, she would hop on that plane. It's a two-hour flight right into BWI. There's a reason she hedges every time. If she figures she'll wait until Kate does a book tour (or speaking engagement) in the Deep South, she's going to be waiting a very long time. Kate has been within reasonable driving distance many times. Something is just not right there.
I see the inviting of Milo and other fans at the 11th hour as throwing a bone to her few fans. "I'll let them think I care, but I know damn well they won't be able to make it here."
Ally, I thought your review was excellent, too.
So Kate is inviting fanz to the Baltimore book show? Has hell frozen over? Is it possible that the poor showing at her signings is finally breaking down her delusions?
I can see the head sheeple blow the trumpet like they're going to battle. The 6 sheep drop what they're doing, pack an overnight bag and hop on the highway.
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What's really funny is many of the southern sheeple asking about the tour are in Texas. Of course they'll drop everything and drive 22 hours to Baltimore...just for a 10 second signing.
There is a Barnes and Noble store located in the same strip mall as Kate's Target. Wonder why she isn't having a book signing there??? Hmmmmmm....
It just dawned on me every time Kate says some like...the kids want me to date, the kids said I should write a cook book, the kids said I should have a cooking show. In the real world its generally friends and/or family members who encourage someone to do X. In Kate's world is always the kids. Yes, the very people who don't speak to the press thus Kate can say anything she wants. If it was a friend (does she still have any of those?) they could set the record straight by talking to the media.
Also, Kate never talks about her family unless its to say my grandmother (who passed away) encouraged me to cook or some other family member who has passed. Once again, a person to can't speak and tell the truth.
I have just seen that pompous, arrogant, irritatingly grandiose eleventh hour tweet to all her fans to come to come to Baltimore to see her.
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Looking at the tweets from fans, it seems they haven't been able to find the schedule, or they think that she will be adding dates. Maybe they're in denial to think that this whole thing is over and this grandiose tour included only Staten Island, New Jersey, the Book Fair and one at a mall in Canada. Shouldn't someone on Twitter tell these folks that this is the end of the tour? Kate obviously isn't going to do it!
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 4h
@HCI_Books @Kateplusmy8 Not just fluff flattery! #LoveIsInTheMix is truly a well made/colorful neatly organized high quality piece of work!
Either old Gladys doesn't get out much; she wouldn't know a quality cookbook if it hit her in the face; or that wool over her eyes needs a serious shearing. Maybe all of those things.
Ally said... 130
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What I find most hilarious about that excerpt ... The kids are going to learn lying from Jon and Jon alone.
I've seen the sheeple tweeting that Jon was lying about this or that in his appearance on The View. He may have been, but he's spoken so little lately that it's hard to find proof of a lie he has told.
WOS lies about everything. She lies about crap no one even cares about. Every blog, tweet, interview is a complete contradiction to something she's blogged, tweeted or said in an interview previously.
Yep, if those kids grow up lying, it's all Jon's fault.
Fortunately or unfortunately, I am going to Baltimore tomorrow morning. My family and I are Red Sox fans and we planned to take my dad to a ball game for his 65th birthday, last year. Well, that turned into my brother making the plans for tomorrow last week. I didn't even realize I was going to be there at the same time until a couple days ago. We are taking in an evening game and spending the night in Baltimore. Anyone know where in Baltimore the book festival is? Is it near inner harbor? If I get the opportunity I will take photos or investigate and report back. Don't know if I will. I am certainly not going to ruin my day searching for her. Her Paramus book signing also happened to be in the same town my mom and aunt grew up in. My aunt and family still live there. Very much know where that B&N is. I'm starting to feel like I'm sharing to much with Kate. Couldn't she do her book signings somewhere else, like UCONN territory in Canada. Maybe she'd get so lost she couldn't find her way back. Anyway...anyone know where the fair is?
AnnieD said... 149
The way this booktour is going, perhaps her book should be renamed to "Kate's Cooked" Book.
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Love that!
Her book signings must have been a disaster!
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There were only two, and we haven't heard anything about the one in Paramus, NJ. Have there been any tweets claiming it was jam-packed, people waited in line for hours, and that Kate was the most amazing,, warm and friendly person they ever met?
Ally said...(122)
Does anything supersede a confidentiality agreement?
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"Yes, child abuse! Kate can have anyone and everyone she wants sign confidentiality agreements forbidding them from ever talking about anything that they ever see, but if anyone witnesses child abuse they can report to CPS/DCFS or the police without any fear of repercussion."
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Then, for the love of God, why hasn't anyone come forward? I don't get it.
Or is it that they DID come forward and Child Services investigated and found that her actions were 'within the law'?
Makes me want to puke but it seems to me there are probably more people out there than just Mr. Hoffman who tried to speak out but still nothing was done because Kate's abuse was deemed 'within the law'.
That's when you need to examine the laws themselves. If the law itself allows parents to get away with that kind of abuse, they NEED to be changed/updated.
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Ally said...(130)
"Speaking about Jon and money and the kids I remembered a passage from RH's book that I had to write up because it is truly hypocritical, demeaning, and just absolutely nasty. It also shows Kate's control of the finances."
June 6, 2007
When Jon got home he had the nerve to lie to me about buying lunch in Philly that day! I knew he was lying, his eyes were as big as saucers!!! But he insisted that he 'didn't have lunch' when really he had put it on the credit card!!!! That was the absolute end to the most horrible day in history!!!! Why am I so unloved that he has to continually lie to me? Am I that stupid? Is he that character less? Evidently he cares more about his OWN fear or whatever that lying is okay! Does he really think that I would never EVER find out? Just be honest weak boy!!!!!"
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This passage speaks volumes about Kate, her temper and her need for ultimate control. It's frightening that she would even document this tirade.
From this we can garner that she is not at all measured or reasoned and that when she gets angry she feels fully entitled to go off like a pressure cooker.
If this is how she deals with a bit of marital indiscretion (he bought lunch for heaven's sake, he didn't spend the afternoon at a hotel with heroin and hookers) then what was she like with the kids?
Oh wait, we know, it's documented and published on episodes of their show and IN HER OWN WORDS in Mr. Hoffman's book.
The woman is a ticking time bomb and I'm sick to death of the media giving this woman a pass while treating Jon with skepticism and disdain.
I'm happy to see the tables are finally turning in Jon's favour and that he's getting the respect he deserves for doing everything he can to set things to right for his kids.
He can never undo the fact that Kate is their mother but at the very least he should be given credit for trying to provide for them a balance to her crazy.
I did sort of reluctantly watch the Katie Couric video online that was about 5 minutes. My first thought was, all those kids except for Hannah and Leah, looked miserable, especially the twins. Kate did not smile or look like she was enjoying any part of that home segment. Could t be because Katie and her team of "icky" boys beat her?! Ha! She sits around pretending like there is such horrible chaos and she just tunes it all out..."what noise??". Additionally, the segment about chore duty and how they only have 2 chores was staged and rehearsed and of course by Leah. Anyone notice that when Kate stages the kids for things she usually uses Hannah and Leah? I'm thinking about the book reading photo from twitter. Those two are also always given the task of repeating the line of information Kate wants everyone to hear. I think those two are her favorites and it shows very obviously, which is sad for the other children. Did you also notice the messy countertop to make the pizza? That was set up too. Again, another reason to be pissy. She is trying to convince the world that messes don't matter anymore and "fun" is most important. Yeah right. I'll bet normally that counter is lined in plastic. The in studio portion wasn't any better. She had no animation, no relaxed smile, wasn't chatty and looked like she would have rather been anywhere else but sitting in that studio. That's not typical Kate when it comes to TV appearances. Something was clearly on her mind when that was filmed. Remember, DWTS when she said, "if I'm thinking about what I'm cooking for dinner, that's what you are going to see on my face." Translation: I have no acting ability whatsoever.
Thanks to the blogger yesterday (Wendy?), who gave detailed instructions to post a comment. I have succeeded, and am most grateful. I was somehow bogged down by the /URL. Thus inspired, I have just tapped out emails to the upcoming Marilyn Denis, Steven&Chris shows here in Canada. I beseeched them to do some research on TFW, although I was unable to refer to her as such...too bad. I mentioned the shows she has appeared on thus far I the U.S., and appealed to their better natures.
I don't suppose my letters will amount to anything, but I have to try.
Have been reading here for ages...better than my morning coffee.
Ally 130
I had forgotten about that story with Jon and lying about buying lunch. Just her comments about it show what a mental case she is. She doesn't understand that people who live with a verbal abuser will start to lie about even the smallest things because they don't want to face the wrath of that person.
She was worrying about the kids lying and you can bet they already are because they also have learned what sets Mommy off. You can tell they have learned the best way to keep Mommy happy is to praise her in any way they can. How many times has she mentioned something wonderful one of them had said about her and we have commented that they were not things a child that age would normally say.
Jon, the kids, relatives, those she has dealt with in public, interviewers, etc.---- all these years and no one has ever confronted her about her behavior because everyone is afraid of her.
Oh, come on, Milo. You can do better than this. Kate love? What about those fantastic long, lean legs, rockin hot body, fabulous physique? All of Baltimore isn't enamored with those things? Did you jump out of bed this morning singin, "Good Morning, Baltimore" (Hairspray)...Kate's here for you all to love?
MiloandJack
@alikins417 @Kateplusmy8 Wow...U both look so nice! What a memory made..Baltimore feeling the #KateLove 4 sure!
HCI, if she paid for their promotional package, must be wondering what is going on with her in these interviews. It's as if there is no cookbook, just an opportunity to bad mouth Jon. She is totally off the rails.
Someone upthread mentioned that in one of those interviews where she was filmed from the right side, they noticed "a mark" beside her nose. I saw that too and I think it looks like a deep scar from her nose job. You can tell she's had one if you compare her nose shape from the early days and now. I also think her hair is nothing but extensions to fill it out. It has got to be incredibly damaged at this point.
AH yes Milo and Jack, Kate's book is a piece of work. Well I guess you proved my granny right when she always said=it takes one to know one. You, milo dear, are a piece of work too! LOL
On another note, has anyone looked at the amazon ratings. Talk about polarizing. Last night TFW's book has all one stars and 5 stars, not a single 2, 3, or 4. I read their reviews a lot and have NEVER seen that before.
~Little Miss Smarty Pants
Kate swamped by her adoring fans:
https://twitter.com/cassiusclaydave/status/383713482018783233/photo/1
Milo got it right: the cookbook is "a piece of work". Interesting that Milo, the #1 fan, did not make it a vacation to see her hero in Baltimore. Further proof to me Milo is not what she claims.
Does anyone else think that Steve is still in the picture because of the TLC contract still being in effect. Could it be that as long as Kate was bound by the contract Steve is part of said contract.
Gigi B said... 153
I thought it was funny in one of the interviews she said that she talks while she cooks. And (supposedly) one of the twins told her that she needed a cooking show.
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Back on one of the early episodes, TFW and the twins were in the kitchen playing "cooking show", while the sextuplets were having their daily 4-hour afternoon nap. These were her words - "We like to play cooking show". So she's had that idea rattling around in her head for a long time. It could be that one of the twins might have said it to her to win her favor when they were five-years-old but good grief, pay a narcissist a compliment and they won't let it go.
Now should pigs grow wings and fly and she DID land a cooking show, which not doubt would be another epic fail, she will have someone to blame it on, namely the twin who suggested it. It is NEVER Kate's fault.
What ta do..what ta do. Kate is getting wrapped, very tightly, around her own lies. Her contract with TLC is about finished, Jon is looking like the good guy he is, Kate is looking more and more like the bitch that she is, Robert's book is coming out again (with added chapters I hope), public opinion has turned on her, Bullyville, apparently, has left the building, her crookbook is a bomb and she has no family or friends to speak of. What's next on your agenda, Katie Irene?? As Dr. Phil would say, "How's that workin' for ya"?
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Do you remember when Hailey released notes that were hand-written by Jon during the divorce? I remember reading them, and apparently they were jotted down during pone conversations with TFW. He had written down exactly what was in the kids' trust. He had written $900,000, and also wrote that the house and the BBB were in their names. He had other things, one I remember was $99,000 salary for Steve. He was listing things that he was not going to pay for after the divorce. He also listed hair, nails, tanning, etc as things he would not agree to paying. I think TFW added all that in when estimating child support, and he said no way, I am not paying for your hair and your nails and tanning and your married "bodyguard". And he also wrote about money he needed immediately for his lawyer. Does anyone else remember seeing that? It was a long time ago, but I clearly remember it.
I didn't get to go to the Baltimore Book Festival today. TFW was supposed to sign books at 5, and I was busy picking kids up from clubs/practices, and we are leaving soon for our linebacker's game. Tomorrow works for me--she will be appearing at 4:30, and right after her comes Brian Boitano! I really want to get a signed copy of his cookbook. A couple of my sons even want to go see him. They love the Brian Boitano song. Well, the older ones do. The littler ones are, as far as I know, blissfully unaware of South Park. I will share BBF details when I get home tomorrow.
Someone was wondering whether TFW would stay at Steve's house in MD overnight or go home. He is from the North Potomac/Gaithersburg area, which is 45 minutes to an hour from Baltimore, depending on traffic. TFW's house would be about an hour and a half from there. His place would be a shorter drive, but not too much shorter.
TLC stinks said... 179
Milo got it right: the cookbook is "a piece of work". Interesting that Milo, the #1 fan, did not make it a vacation to see her hero in Baltimore. Further proof to me Milo is not what she claims.
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Milo is a Catfish. I'm 100% sure about that.
Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said... 178
Kate swamped by her adoring fans:
https://twitter.com/cassiusclaydave/status/383713482018783233/photo/1
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LOL and that looks like Jon! Someone tweeted a pic with her..if you put your finger over her boobs you can see how stick thin she really is. The fake boobs are the only thing of substance on her.
https://twitter.com/alikins417/status/383722369392472064
Couple tweets about meeting her and how "sweet" and "down to earth" she is. Remember she said it's her mission to leave that impression. Must suck to have to work that hard to pretend you're nice.
Totally off the subject but guess which road manager has a child that is into lacrosse and another one into school theater? How much of a coincidence is that?
See Saw, big hug and kiss from me! ( you know why)
Well, Katie Couric just set her viewers straight at the end of her show today. I just caught the last few minutes when she wraps up the week's guest appearances. She said that prior to TFW's appearance she had a lot of negative tweets, but after having her on, she received positive comments, then flashed up a tweet from a viewer stating what a great mom the TFW is.
Katie said she really enjoyed her time with TFW and asked people to "just leave her alone, she's doing the best she can!" Now there is some in-depth research and reporting. Geez.
As the dinner hour commences and moves across the US I picture Kate's tweeties filling the plates of their hungry families with steaming portions of slimy pasta and doggie vomit. Oh YUM!
Michelle and Insert Creative User Name, thanks for the answer to my question about the upturn in book sales. It makes sense. Shows must buy their books at Amazon, the cheaper alternative, even cheaper than getting them directly from the publisher.
Does anyone else think that Steve is still in the picture because of
the TLC contract still being in effect. Could it be that as long as
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That occurred to me when TFW recently stated that her TLC contract is at it's VERY end. It"s quite possible.
Katie said she really enjoyed her time with TFW and asked people to "just leave her alone, she's doing the best she can!"
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Yes she is. Katie. She's doing the best she can to try and make sure Jon doesn't have a pot to piss in...ever!
Maryland's girl
You call Jon childish and ridiculous in one post and bust on him being bald in the next. That's when I stop taking anything you say seriously.
I hate hypocrites.
Cheryl
You're right Cheryl. I guess I was just posting like everyone else was.
There is no accounting for child support in PA. If she wants to spend it on manicures she can. So if he socks it all away into an irrevocable trust all of a sudden there's no money for child support for Kate to spend on herself and he just let himself fall into arrears.
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Could this explain the $22,000 a month child support he was supposedly paying? Putting, say, $16,000 a month ($2,000 for each child) into these trusts and the rest to TFW for Child Support? Just a thought.
There HAS to be more behind the story of Kate and Steve's relationship. Just look at his "resume". No way is he working for Kate for a few hundred dollars a trip? And now his primary job is carrying cases of books? Makes absolutely no sense. http://www.zoominfo.com/p/Steve-Neild/385035627 I am glad to see Kate does not bring any of the children to the book signings and a "draw". But it is sort of sad, what a great opportunity it would be for one of the twins (at a time) to spend some alone time with mom, go to dinner, walk around the book fair and meet other authors. Pioneer Woman often travels with one of her daughters, she had no need for a body guard. She uses the opportunity as part of their school work. (What I learned about xxxx when we visited that I never knew.) Kate has used the kids so much that she can't turn something into a simply nice thing to do. She just has no real relationship with her kids, which is sad for all of them.
Ex Nurse said... 141
''.....I think that the reason she never gets hard questions in interviews is because people get that she is delusional, and, her mental health is fragile''
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I'm happy to be able to finally agree with you! I believe that when people are face to face with TFMJG, they realize that she really IS mentally fragile, and that is why they don't challenge her, or follow up her responses with more questions.
Jumping in: what do you expect from a Talk show Katie Couric, her talk show is tanking. I don't watch her show, her show is like so many others(I don't watch them either, they are boring. Wendy Williams is ok, Much better than The View. The View has lost something, it's zing?, it's boring, has no spark anymore. Perhaps it's been on too long. The rest of the talk shows are pretty much the same, you watch one, you seen them all.
So Katie Couric is a defender of TFW? I used to like her.
This was in a review at Amazon: "the photography was "wonderful"? Okay, explain what that green thing is growing out of that one child's head on the cover? What horrible photography."
Did one of you write this? LOL
TFW will change the title of The Nanny Diaries to The Part Time Helper Diaries.
Jumping In said... 189
Katie said she really enjoyed her time with TFW and asked people to "just leave her alone, she's doing the best she can!" Now there is some in-depth research and reporting. Geez.
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I guess that proves she really does want her show cancelled. She must be another "get a life" Meredith Vieira. Buh bye Katie.
Milo, the successful independent woman, can't take a weekend trip to Baltimore with her "daughter". Pretty close to DC could be a fun weekend. Guess LOM won't allow it. She doesn't even eat her vanilla ice cream anymore. Milo 6.0?
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