Morty, 91, and Lee Kaufman, 90, are not actors reading a script. They are a real couple from New York. Their daughter knew a casting agent for Swiffer and recommended them for a series of commercials. The couple was cast right away and a film crew was sent over to their home for a two-day shoot. The footage that followed was so adorable and funny they became an overnight sensation. From Morty's "be careful, babe" as Lee steps on a stool to clean with their old mop (aww), to his deadpan "I don't do any cleaning; I make dirt," to their impromptu dances together in the kitchen, to their mutual amazement at how much dirt their new Swiffer mop picks up, this couple has stolen America's hearts.
Lee is a retired teacher and Morty is a retired pharmacist. The Kaufman's love story is just as sweet as it looks. Both widowed young in their early 40's. They met and fell in love when Morty's son Scott was in Lee's summer reading class. They married on Valentine's Day, and they say their respective total of six children blended together well. Morty said the secret to their long marriage is compromise and giving in. "No difference of opinion is that important as to interfere with your love for each other," Morty said.
As for what they think of all this publicity? Morty says people stop them for autographs. "We're having so much fun," he said. Lee said, "It's all very exciting."
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http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/10/09/20885992-court-mom-who-spanked-daughter-with-wooden-spoon-should-not-have-been-labeled-child-abuser?lite
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I read that article, and this is an excerpt:
"Gonzalez reprimanded her 12-year-old daughter in 2010 for lying, refusing to complete homework assignments and for her growing interest in joining a gang, according to court documents.
Gonzalez had warned her daughter that she would receive one spanking for each act of defiance since grounding proved ineffective."
Here is another article about it that goes into more detail.
http://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/Court-Spanking-improperly-labeled-child-abuse-4879392.php
This is an excerpt from that article:
"In Tuesday's ruling, the appeals court said the chid abuse law does not apply to parents who act out of genuine disciplinary motives, have a "reasonable occasion for discipline" and use only reasonable force. The court said Gonzalez had intended to discipline her daughter, but not to bruise her, and that the girl's conduct was reasonable cause for discipline.
I wonder how the court would have ruled if the child had been a 2 year toddler, instead of a 12 year old girl with disciplinary problems.
Thanks boo. I hope they haven't watered it down so much that Jon's lawyer will lose interest. He did say he was hoping to make some law and now that there is not all that much left to the suit that he specializes in he might not want to spend more valuable time on a smaller case. That still leaves Robert's big gun though. Not that I lack faith in the local lawyers but it is great to see the legal superstars on board. I hope they stay.
boo said... 182
In case anyone is still interested, I had a chance to compare the newly filed amended complaint to the original. Kate has dropped her claims under the Electronic Communications Protection Act, the Stored Communications Act, the wiretapping count, and the ID theft count. All that is left now is the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act claim, invasion of privacy, and couple of other related state law claims. No defamation, slander, or libel counts. It seems that Jon's motion was extremely effective in waking Kate's team up to the fatal flaws in a lot of their claims.
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Well, how interesting! Also not at all surprising that she has withdrawn so much of the complaints.
I googled the SoL on the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act and the second link was to Mr Tuma, Jon's attorney. I guess he is an expert in this area!
http://shawnetuma.com/2013/01/04/two-year-statute-of-limitations-of-computer-fraud-and-abuse-act-accrued-when-plaintiff-suspected-wrongdoing/
So R. Hoffman says he acquired, found, unearthed from the trash computer related discs, drives, or whatever in April/May 2009. Kate started complaining about being "hacked" by Jon in 2011, if memory serves.
Can anyone remember the exact date of the first time she mentioned computer-related malfeasance? This claim all hinges on when she first became aware of the problem because she only had 2 years to file after that date.
I think why some of us think Kate 's kids sound like they are developmentally delayed, is how she interpreters, what they say. Kate makes her, kids sound like they are 3-5 years old, instead of being 9 & 13. Kate is stuck in a time warp. At 3-5(the tups), is when the family was at their popularity peak. Kate has never gotten over that, or accepted, that the kids have grown, and are not 3-5 any more. What Kate said about one of the boys is the same way she talks about the other tups, "mommy, Jesus painted the sky". This to me sounds like a child of 3-5 , not a 9 year old. If, Kate had said: one of my sons, said to me or commented to me, mom, look at the sky, I guess Jesus was painting again. This sounds like a older child, not a 3-5. But, Kate always thinks, by making her kids sound younger, they will stay younger, and can be exploited, sound cute & better
able to sell to the public. I don't think the kids, really talk that way, but Kate interpreters it that way.
Boo said...
Kate has dropped her claims under the Electronic Communications Protection Act, the Stored Communications Act, the wiretapping count, and the ID theft count. All that is left now is the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act claim, invasion of privacy, and couple of other related state law claims.
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Thanks for posting that, boo. Sounds like the hacking, accessing bank and email accounts claims were outside the statute of limitations, given the public record that she knew about this in 2009.
I think that it is possible that she didn't know about the hard drive copies that RH had until more recently. So, Hailey's texts may very well come into play. Since she has publicly acknowledged the contents of the texts, is she required to respond to a subpoena?
I agree that the texts did not sound like other texts from Jon. However, they came from the same phone that was used by Hailey when she was accused of vandalizing his apartment. The texts seemed to have been verified to be authentic, since she was not charged. I don't know if it was verified with forensics--just that she had texts telling her to take her belongings out because otherwise they would be seized.
Since some part of the claim withstood the motion to dismiss, there is obviously something there as a basis for the lawsuit. I agree with those from the earlier thread that said that it shouldn't be assumed that Jon will prevail, or that there is no proof. None of us know the whole story of everything that happened in that period of time. But, it is clear that Jon had an enormous amount of pressure, and did a lot of foolish things.
One way or another, this will be over one day, and Jon can put this period of his life behind him. This is at least one positive outcome for the kids--that their father can finally move on from this mess. I doubt that TFW will ever move on. For the sake of her children, I hope she will. But, not holding my breath!
Bo said...I don't know if the CFAA claim is still likely to survive. If it doesn't, there are now no other federal claims, so if she loses on that one, it's likely the whole suit would get dismissed and she would have to start over in state court.
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Boo, what is the CFAA claim? (I'm legally challenged.)
getofftwitter said... 7
Kate is stuck in a time warp. At 3-5(the tups), is when the family was at their popularity peak. Kate has never gotten over that, or accepted, that the kids have grown, and are not 3-5 any more.
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That and Kate doesn't spend any real time with the kids to know anything about them. I think the last time she gave them her true attention was around the first couple of seasons of the show, so around the 3-5 age. So when she mentions things that the kids "say", she is thinking back to the last time she really paid any attention to them.
Kate is a twit said... 183
Kate did another radio interview this morning.....
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She sounds manic..
If the primary purpose of her lawsuit was to draw attention to her cookbook, seems logical she would start backing off from it now that the media blitz is over.
Upstater said... 11
Kate is a twit said... 183
Kate did another radio interview this morning.....
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Is there a direct link because I can't find it from the main page. Thanks.
(I really want to hear what context one of the guys called her a bitch)
getofftwitter said... 7
This sounds like a older child, not a 3-5. But, Kate always thinks, by making her kids sound younger, they will stay younger, and can be exploited, sound cute & better able to sell to the public. I don't think the kids, really talk that way, but Kate interpreters it that way.
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I totally agree with you. She's a legend in her own mind. She wants people to believe the kids think she is the reason the sun comes up in the morning. I cringe everytime she mimics their unwavering adoration for her in that nails-on-chalkboard voice of hers... "like ltierally every day my kids actually gather around and say 'Mommy's cooking show!' "... Suuure they do. Maybe one of them said it ONCE, so Kate sprinkled her usual fertilizer on it and the lie grew from there.
getofftwitter said... 7
. This sounds like a older child, not a 3-5. But, Kate always thinks, by making her kids sound younger, they will stay younger, and can be exploited, sound cute & better
able to sell to the public. I don't think the kids, really talk that way, but Kate interpreters it that way.
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getofftwitter, I agree with you completely. When my son was 9 he was already a bit of an artist and since then has had several pieces shown. But at 9, he got his first glance of our area's new sports complex, not even completed yet. We were driving, and when we went over a rise in the road, there it was, surrounded by autumn trees on the horizon, colors in the sky etc. And he said to me "Wow, Mom. Like it was sketched by Angels."
I still tear up and shiver regarding the awe and maturity in his voice and in his artist's mind. I didn't post it in baby language for all the world to see, I didn't shriek and cackle and treat him like an amusement. Because I didn't see my child as an object of entertainment for the masses. TheGKids'GestationalCarrier makes everything sound like a ridicule, unless it is about herself of course.
Fascinated said...
Can anyone remember the exact date of the first time she mentioned computer-related malfeasance? This claim all hinges on when she first became aware of the problem because she only had 2 years to file after that date.
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This is my opinion, based on what I have read. There are separate timelines for 2 different actions.
The charges of hacking, identity theft, etc., which have now been dropped from the suit, was publicly documented in 2009. So, she is outside the statute of limitations on those charged.
The second timeline is the theft of the contents of her hard drive, which also occured around the same time. However, I think that it depends on when she became aware of the alleged theft. RH's book came out around a year ago, so, if she was unaware of the existence of those backup disks until a date within the statute of limitations, those charges, and the invasion of privacy claim stemming from the theft, would still qualify.
There is a third factor in the other claims regarding the unnamed Does. It seems that the identity of those people were confirmed in the last 6 months by Bullyville. So, that would certainly be within the statute of limitations, even if it occured years ago, because was recently revealed and confirmed.
All speculation on my part. Obviously, anyone can disagree with my interpretation. We are all filling in the blanks, because, none of us know the whole story.
boo said... 194
The John Does are still there. Sorry, I don't have a link, because I accessed it on PACER, and you have to have an account to view it. If Admin wants it, maybe I could email it to her and she could post it.
Yes boo,
Please copy it into an e-mail and send it to Admin. She can then post it like she did the others if she sees fit. And, thank you!
What Kate said about one of the boys is the same way she talks about the other tups, "mommy, Jesus painted the sky". This to me sounds like a child of 3-5 , not a 9 year old. If, Kate had said: one of my sons, said to me or commented to me, mom, look at the sky, I guess Jesus was painting again.
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I don't see the difference. Jesus painted the sky (3-5 years old); I guess Jesus was painting again (older child). Either way, the child is commenting on the sky. What if he said, "Jesus got out his paintbrush?" Is that a toddler saying that, or an older child?
The reason she sounds manic is because she must be in a deep depression now that she is home and back to her kids. The last two weeks of traveling, being on television and radio, being pampered in dressing rooms, eating out, staying in hotels and being with Steve are what Kate wants in life!
Poor Kate how dare those kids stand in her way! :)
Also maybe she's desperate to get a TV deal before the book comes out!
CFAA=Computer Fraud and Abuse Act.
Also, to clarify, the Judge has not ruled on Jon's motion challenging the CFAA and state law claims. Any of those could still get dismissed on statute of limitations or other grounds. Kate's team had a set period of time (I think 21 days but not sure) from the filing of Jon's motion to file an amended complaint. They still have to respond to the motion as it relates to the claims that are still in play. I didn't compare the complaint and amended complaint closely enough to see if any of the allegations changed on the claims that are still at issue.
Upstater said... 11
Kate is a twit said... 183
Kate did another radio interview this morning.....
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She sounds manic..
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She did. Talk about verbal diarrhea! Would...not...stop...talking.
I love that this lawsuit has already been decimated before a judge even had to decide anything. The CFAA claim should be thrown out because of the two-year Statute of Limitations and the invasion of privacy claim should be tossed because she's a celebrity and doesn't have the same protections as a private citizen. It's hard to whine about privacy when she sold her soul to the public years ago. This whole lawsuit was built on sand from the beginning. Tuma and Garbus should have an easy time dismantling the rest of it.
Kate said on the radio show today that despite what people believe, reality TV is not a moneymaker. I guess the million dollar house, three luxury vehicles and exclusive private schools would have been attainable on a nurse's salary. If so, she should go back to it.
Interesting how media was all over the original lawsuit, but don't say a word about most of it having been dropped.
I just listened to that radio talk show. She is an idiot. I can not believe how nasty and a liar she is. She said last night she was under the dishwasher fixing it. How long ago did we see that picture. She through Jon under the bus a million times. She talked about how a nurses salary and a IT salary would not be enough money to support her family. I call BS on this. We had 13 kids in our family and my mom stayed home. We lived on my dad's salary and did just fine.
Of course she has no regrets. She still is running but of course can't run because she broke her foot and loves to sleep.
The best part was after they hung up with her. The one guy talked about how hot she was and would hit it. One of the guys said you need to remember how she treated her husband on the show. She was a b****. They really tore her apart from there.
Since some part of the claim withstood the motion to dismiss, there is obviously something there as a basis for the lawsuit.
There's been no ruling from the judge/courts whether any part of the claim has held up to a motion to dismiss - just that TFW's attorneys dropped some things from the suit. We don't know whether those points were dropped due to SOL or some other reason.
So, Hailey's texts may very well come into play. Since she has publicly acknowledged the contents of the texts, is she required to respond to a subpoena?
If you're subpoenaed you must respond or risk being in contempt of court.
As Admin said in comment #123 Oct. 7:
Haileys texts can be subpoenaed but I don't see that they are much value. They don't prove that Jon obtained the items he sought, rather he was merely talking about wanting them. I can talk about wanting a big screen tv but that's no proof I committed a crime to get one. They also don't prove that if he ever did obtain certain items, he didn't do so perfectly legally, just as described in Tuma's brief. The texts IMO are irrelevant. Anecdotal evidence at best.
Tucker's Mom--Try this link:
http://www.roverradio.com/listen/watch-live
Go to about 6:38. If you get a screen that says "We'll be right back" just wait. It'll start to play in about a minute. Before Kate's interview begins, the host takes a phone call from a listener on a different subject, and then Kate's interview begins.
When Kate is speed yakking away, the host looks like he is totally bored and would rather be elsewhere.
So when she mentions things that the kids "say", she is thinking back to the last time she really paid any attention to them.
I agree - she also thinks of them and calls them the 'littles' and in the media she tries to keep the public focused on them as they were on the show since that's when they held the appeal to viewers.
Mel said... 23
Interesting how media was all over the original lawsuit, but don't say a word about most of it having been dropped.
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I don't think the media gives two hoots about TFW. I think they picked up the original lawsuit because TFW's publicist/lawyers/TFW herself planted it. They're not going to go to the media with the amended lawsuit, now are they? TFW throwing out most of the lawsuit provides even more evidence to Jon and his lawyers that TFW filed the lawsuit more for publicity for her book than anything else.
I don't see the difference. Jesus painted the sky (3-5 years old); I guess Jesus was painting again (older child). Either way, the child is commenting on the sky. What if he said, "Jesus got out his paintbrush?" Is that a toddler saying that, or an older child?
In my opinion, it's the word sequencing in the phrase that makes it sound so small child-ish.
"Mommy, xxxx xxxx xxxx" sounds like a small child.
"Hey Mom! xxx xxxx xxxx!" sounds more like a 9 year old.
We've talked about this before.
'Mommy' seems to be more a small child thing to say. By 9 years old they're usually saying 'Hey, Mom!'.
None of the Twitter people Bullyville outed can be the Jane Does unless they conspired with Jon and Robert during the time the ALLEGED theft of the ALLEGED hard drive took place. Bullyville found no evidence of a personal, conspiratorial relationship between people on Twitter, which started up in April 2011, and Robert and Jon back in 2009.
The reason she sounds manic is because she must be in a deep depression now that she is home and back to her kids. The last two weeks of traveling, being on television and radio, being pampered in dressing rooms, eating out, staying in hotels and being with Steve are what Kate wants in life!
If she's depressed she's not manic. Mania is the opposite of being depressed. If she sounded manic she most likely was excited, happy, feeling positive and still on her high from the book tour (cough, cough!) and her little vacay away from the kids w/Steevo.
I missed something in the whole chocolate cake discussion and didn't see the pictures being talked about. So I googled Gosselin chocolate cake. In the first few pictures were some of Kate and that really tall bodyguard, the one she called Mr Chocolate. It is so sad that her disrespectful name will always be attached to him.
Doesn't seem like there's a rush to try to win a signed copy of the cook book.
ET Canada @ETCanada 3h
Want a #signed copy of @Kateplusmy8's new book #LoveIsInTheMix? Answer to win: how many books has she authored? pic.twitter.com/2j9LdzgM1K
This tweet was sent out over 3 hours ago, and so far there have been only 6 responses.
On that radio interview, keep in mind that you are going to HOUR 6, 38 minutes, not minute 6, 38 seconds. It would have been nice if they'd pulled up a much harsher example of her treatment of Jon than they did, because there are MANY. If they were going for the couch video segments, they could have used the one where she made fun of his breathing. Even the guy who was panting over her transformation couldn't have denied how nasty that was, nor Jon's defeated and hurt reaction.
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Listening to the radio show. It's interesting how everything that happens in TFW's life happens just how she thought it would happen. That's amazing.
Also interesting that the scariest result of being on tv was the divorce. Not the whole, I need to hire a bodyguard because strange people put my kids on their laps thing.
She talked about how a nurses salary and a IT salary would not be enough money to support her family.
Well, if that's the case I guess she didn't ever plan for her and Jon to support their family themselves, did she? And, how in the world does she plan to support them until they're 18? Win the lottery?
It sounds like she just proved how delusional she really is in that she has absolutely no plans (or intentions) of supporting her kids other than working in the entertainment industry. She really does believe the call will come offering to make her a star, doesn't she? SMH How else is she planning for the bills to be paid? Is grifting that lucrative that she can support 9 people living an expensive lifestyle?
She isn't connected to reality. She'd rather sit on her butt all day not earning a cent, masterminding new ways to exploit her kids, than working a job and actually earning money that WOULD pay the bills.
http://www.roverradio.com/listen/watch-live
Was this a sex show? The first part was about multiple sex partners (or lack of); and the host clearly has the hots for Kate, which really must have pumped up her ego.
HA, WOS has more than 50% of the votes for 'most hated' on this article. It's all Jon's fault! http://www.celebdirtylaundry.com/2013/kate-gosselin-amanda-zuckerman-top-five-reality-tv-show-contestants-notorious-poll/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+celebritydirtylaundry-Celeb+Dirty+Laundry
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Sorry, Twitter didn't start in April 2011. Kate's Twitter drama started in April 2011.
Thank you to Boo for comparing the original complaint to the 1st amended complaint. For those wondering about the Doe defendants – those will usually remain on the case until a settlement is reached, or the case goes to trial. Before trial starts, the court will often require a dismissal of the Doe defendants.
Martha - I don’t believe we are keeping TFW relevant. Our numbers (compared to the general population) are really low. Most people have never heard about 15 Minutes Gosselin Style. (No offense to Admin!)
Finally, it always bugs me when TFW talks about how she could not afford to raise 8 children on a nurse's salary. Yes, she could. She would have to be very frugal, but she certainly could do so. And if Jon has them 50% of the time, that means her grocery bills are 50% less, and that various costs are shared about equally (new clothes, dentist visits, etc.) What she really means is that she doesn't want to have to work a full time job, and live on "mediocre" wages. Since that's what I do, I have no sympathy for her.
From Celebrity Dirty Laundry:
From Kate Gosselin to Amanda Zuckerman: Top Five Most Notorious and Least Popular Reality TV Show Contestants - POLL
Three is Kate Gosselin and many people must think she is busy woman with her eight children, but the former Jon & Kate Plus 8 star is more busy getting pedicures and a tan than taking care of her children. Kate is so repulsive that she even Tweeted herself in a “slant eye” pic wearing a giesha headpiece and pulled back her eyes into slits. Kate is not only nasty, but she is a true “reality TV whore” that would sell her kids out just to get herself a new reality TV show. Kate’s former husband, Jon Gosselin even came out and said “reality television is not a career. Get back to normal life, simple life, provide for your family, and go from there.”
OUCH!
Where is Milo? Off sulking somewhere because Kate didn't respond to LOM's offer to send her his used cast?
If this lawsuit against Jon will be dropped, then will TFW continue to go after Robert because her real goal is to not have Robert's book republished? It doesn't seem like she has much of a case against them.
When the lawsuit was filed Bullyville contacted ROL. When half of it was dropped, he was strangely silent. lol
Kate is a twit said... 26
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Thanks for the help with the link.
The up-talk at the end of the sentences is really increased????? Like, are you making a statement???? Or asking a question???
Apparently, running has the side benefit of changing your looks completely. Makes your boobs bigger, tans your skin, bleaches your hair, veneers your teeth, smooths facial lines and wrinkles, tightens your face....
The DJ was hammering, I mean HAMMERING away on her looks and said to the other guy, 'you'd hit it, right?"
(doing the 'told ya so' dance about now)
Part of me thinks he just can't believe, and sort of doesn't believe her transformation.
Look, lots of guys go for the Barbie look. They KNOW plastic surgery when they see and feel it, and it seems this guy just couldn't justify the drastic change in Kate's appearance with her story of "it's all running".
Doesn't add up and he couldn't reconcile it, obviously.
So, wow! The 3 guys in the studio were having the EXACT exchange that some of us had the other day, when Kate said (again) she wasn't looking for a husband and we said, "well yeah, they'd bang you but they wouldn't marry you or even be in a real relationship with you, because you didn't change on the inside"
And guys are loathe to get involved with emasculating woman who treats them like a child.
"Well, I put a ball gag in her mouth, so..."
Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!
Over And Out said... 37
http://www.roverradio.com/listen/watch-live
Was this a sex show? The first part was about multiple sex partners (or lack of); and the host clearly has the hots for Kate, which really must have pumped up her ego.
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After seeing that interview, I thought "why the hell is she on this show?".
The DJ interviewing her was evidently getting some, ahem, increased blood flow to his pudenda. I'll have to go back and see if both of his hands were on the sound board at all times...
Yeah, it was that bad ;-)
KK also said she wish she could do an interview where they wouldn't ask about Jon and I was like.
HA that's what you get I hope they never stop asking.
The radio guys say they would hit it but..she'd have to be gagged first.-(HA)
I noticed on CWS Cara referred to TFW as Mommy.( one example of infantilizing) I think Kate insists on them using baby terms/baby talk for the reasons mentioned above by others.
On the radio show Kate insists she was just having the kids play but she refers to it as her 'work." I recall mention of retakes, inappropriate clothes for weather to shoot a scene, listening to the crew,not really play at all.
If the primary purpose of her lawsuit was to draw attention to her
cookbook, seems logical she would start backing off from it now that
the media blitz is over. 12
I think the primary purpose of her lawsuit was part of her crusade to
get Jon out of his children's lives. Secondary purpose is to stop the
re release of Robert's book.
The alleged cookbook (I'll admit it is actually a book) was, as
someone said, an exercize in vanity to get her back on tv and in the
public eye.
I am glad she came through for Paige, but really that young woman
needs to move on.
Millicent said... 40
For those wondering about the Doe defendants – those will usually remain on the case until a settlement is reached, or the case goes to trial. Before trial starts, the court will often require a dismissal of the Doe defendants.
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I don't understand the DOE thing at all. So if they're often dismissed by the courts, do they still have to go through get attorneys, go through discovery, etc?
Flo said... 30
None of the Twitter people Bullyville outed can be the Jane Does unless they conspired with Jon and Robert during the time the ALLEGED theft of the ALLEGED hard drive took place. Bullyville found no evidence of a personal, conspiratorial relationship between people on Twitter, which started up in April 2011, and Robert and Jon back in 2009.
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Good point. I wonder if the victims of his bullying are able to sue him. Wouldn't that be a funny turnabout.
On the radio show, the film clip shown was lame. Just Kate telling Jon to exercise. The two guys at the mikes obviously had not seen much of the show. But the two guys behind the glass were very familiar with Kate's treatment of Jon on the show and I don't think they could do her, even with a ball gag.
Someone help me! I just switched from Droid to Iphone and can't figure out how to post. The only option is Google Account. Do I have to have a Google Account to post from an iphone?
PS I had an egg mcmuffin for breakfast. Shhh
Over And Out said... 37
http://www.roverradio.com/listen/watch-live
Was this a sex show? The first part was about multiple sex partners (or lack of); and the host clearly has the hots for Kate, which really must have pumped up her ego.
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I can't stand morning talk shows. Not because I'm a prude...the only one I ever liked was Howard Stern. I mostly listened for the news segment though because I loved their take on current events. And they were FUNNY. I find morning shows boring as hell and unimaginative. Especially compared to the quick wit of Howard and Robin.
Yep, Martyr Milo is sulking yet again. She's been quiet for 3 days now. She'll pop back on eventually saying something about how much grief she has to suffer because she has to defend Kate all the time.
Listening to the show now..didn't she tweet not that long ago that she doesn't have a publicist? That's the first thing they say..her publicist gave her the wrong phone number LOL
Is she doing these radio interviews because she wants a voice over gig? Also, I love the way she makes it seem that bedrest is hard work. It's laying around!!
The radio host looked bored out of his mind and he made it clear he didn't care about her story. He also said three times that someone named Rob booked her. He wanted to make sure people knew he wasn't into the interview. Also, at the beginning of the show they mentioned her name and they all laughed. She's a joke.
"It was, um, it was a marriage, um, ya know,.."She claimed it was doomed from the start but doesn't explain the Hawaiian vow renewal a few weeks before she told Jon it was over.
They should have shown coupon gate, plastic chair gate, or toysrus gate.
I don't think Kate or her publicist had any idea what kind of show this was, especially what topics they discuss. Sex seems to be a major topic and their FB profile picture is a picture of an almost naked woman. Far from being a wholesome radio show.
I remember several of her tweeties weren't happy when she appeared on WWHL with Andy Cohen. I wonder what they would think about Kate doing an interview for this show.
I would say that the type of audience that listens to or watches that show aren't going to be running out to buy her cook book.
localyocul - I'm a Howard and Robin fan also. I listen faithfully every morning. I agree with you on Robin's take on the news.
She's been quiet for 3 days now. She'll pop back on eventually saying something about how much grief she has to suffer because she has to defend Kate all the time.
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Maybe someone else up and left her in the middle of the night with no forwarding address or phone number.
She must have communicated birthday wishes in another way.
PS I had an egg mcmuffin for breakfast. Shhh
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lol!! Shhhh...I'm having a McDonalds chicken club and fries for supper! Sometimes you just gotta give in to cravings. Maybe a side salad will make me feel less guilty.
A Sonic chocolate shake and onion rings doesn't sound bad either!
I would say that the type of audience that listens to or watches that show aren't going to be running out to buy her cook book.
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Speaking of which:
http://wochit.com/explore/video/21923182
Is she making any money at all from this book? Virginia Pen?
Here is an article about the cookbook certainly won't help up the sales. Too bad it's not a major media outlet.
http://www.hollywoodtake.com/kate-gosselin-awful-book-sales-reviews-controversial-mom-desperate-love-mix-help-tv-show-chances
I like this excerpt:
She recently released a cookbook called Kate Gosselin’s Love Is In The Mix, but her fans aren’t showing that love back. Current sales leave it at a dismal No. 3,105 on Amazon’s Best Seller list, and it has received plenty of scathing reviews on both the Amazon and Barnes & Noble websites.
I don't understand the DOE thing at all. So if they're often dismissed by the courts, do they still have to go through get attorneys, go through discovery, etc?
As the case goes along and IF the Does are finally named, they'd either have to hire attorneys or represent themselves. It remains to be seen whether the case will go that far though.
Ugh! So everyone lets her play the, poor me I need sooooo much money to raise allll these children card. No one ever says, well, you own a 1.3 million dollar house and are not currently working so your finances must not be that tight!
Suzee said... 67 As the case goes along and IF the Does are finally named, they'd either have to hire attorneys or represent themselves. It remains to be seen whether the case will go that far though.
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So they don't have to go through discovery before the case goes before judge or trial?
We are a Middle and High school of about 65 students who are expelled from their regular school for some reason or another. I was not asking Chipotle to feed our entire population, I was asking for a couple of 5 $ gift cards to use in our weekly drawings for good behavior for the week. That they refused me but grift that bitch a lot is what irks my behind. I will NEVER ever eat at a chipotle every again. We got gift cards from a LOT of places, even hockey tickets from a local team but chipotle couldn't even bother. Hell, if I were a manage, I would have just given a $5.00 card out of my own pocket ( I often supplement our incentive program just because I want the kids to do well)
Pam
She recently released a cookbook called Kate Gosselin’s Love Is In The Mix, but her fans aren’t showing that love back. Current sales leave it at a dismal No. 3,105 on Amazon’s Best Seller 66
I would argue that the numbers are indicative of her number of fans,
most of whom bought multiple copies.
Pam, I wish there was a way to know your school, because I would go buy and send you gift cards of all kinds for those kids. Rewards like that mean a lot to kids living in chaos, especially since a lot of time their troubles are not their fault. Thank you for caring for them. I agree with you about Chipotle, even if they hadn't been grifted by Kreider. Each store is independently owned by a franchise owner and so each store would make its own decision on whether or not to support. They can't kick in ten bucks and give two kids a burrito?
Former Regular Poster
Tweet--I think the naming of the Does in the original and amended complaint is because they believe that other people than Jon or Robert are relevant to the case, but they can't identify them yet. Part of discovery is trying to find out if any other people were involved.
This article kind of explains it:
http://www.statejournal.com/story/22942114/john-doe-sits-in-when-defendant-is-unknown-protected
Admin, would you consider doing another post where you discuss the difference in the amended lawsuit?
Pam, love the good work you're doing!
As the case goes along and IF the Does are finally named, they'd either have to hire attorneys or represent themselves. It remains to be seen whether the case will go that far though.
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So they don't have to go through discovery before the case goes before judge or trial?
Millicent and/or Admin can answer this much more accurately than I.
Yes, both sides will investigate and do discovery before the case goes to trial.
I believe TFW has to show there is enough cause or reason for the Does' identities to be discovered; ie: asking internet or phone providers to disclose identities, before it goes farther (but don't quote me on this, please.). I've never seen what info BV says they have and I've no idea whether it's accurate or obtained legally, etc. IDK who TFW thinks conspired with Jon and Robert to commit these acts against her or since the amended complaint, how or even, if the Does play into the suit now.
Here is another article about Does or "fictitious defendants".
http://dictionary.law.com/Default.aspx?selected=743
fictitious defendants
n. when a party suing (plaintiff) is not sure if he/she knows if there are unknown persons involved in the incident or the business being sued, there are named fictitious persons, usually designated Doe I, Doe II, and so forth, or "Green and Red Company," with an allegation in the complaint that if and when the true names are discovered they will be inserted in the complaint by amendment. Naming fictitious defendants stops the statute of limitations (the time in which a party has to file a lawsuit) from running out even though the true name is not yet known. Sometimes during the investigation or discovery (taking depositions or asking written questions under oath) new information about a potential defendant is found and the real name substituted. Then that person is served with a summons and complaint. If no substitution of a real name for a Doe has been made by the time of trial, usually the fictitious defendants are then dismissed from the case since they never existed in the first place, and the case continues against the named defendants. Fictitious defendants are not permitted in federal cases.
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I found the last sentence to very interesting. Can anyone with experience in the law clarify that? Isn't this a Federal suit?
No one ever says, well, you own a 1.3 million dollar house and are not currently working so your finances must not be that tight!
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What happened to the money from the speaking engagements and love offerings? I bet that wasn't any small sum. Ten grand (or more) plus cash in the church basket just to talk for an hour and a half or so? Not a bad income! When you think about it, there were so many freebies and all-expense paid trips that didn't come out of her pocket. She was way ahead of the game.
Pam,
I'm with you on being disappointed! I hope that you've found Chipotle to be the exception to the rule and that the majority of businesses in your area are happy to help. You're right; you weren't asking for them to feed the entire class for a year, just to donate a few coupons. They could have promoted a lot of good will and gained new customers, but they missed it big time. Don't waste any energy on them - move on to better businesses who really appreciate and support what you're doing!
Flo said... 30
None of the Twitter people Bullyville outed can be the Jane Does unless they conspired with Jon and Robert during the time the ALLEGED theft of the ALLEGED hard drive took place. Bullyville found no evidence of a personal, conspiratorial relationship between people on Twitter, which started up in April 2011, and Robert and Jon back in 2009.
$$$$$$$$
Correct. The main focus of the lawsuit is Robert's book and what Jon may have had to do with it. IMO the Does are the unnamed sources and family members Robert claimed to have received information from.
Also IMO, RWA was targeted because of the rumor that Robert's wife was a long time poster there. Kate seemed to think that because of this, Jon and Robert posted there too.
At one time, Preesi, RWA, 15 mins, Werny Gal and GWOP were similtaneously in full swing while Kate was TLCs darling. If crimes were being committed by speaking negatively about Kate, the TLC legal department would have swiftly dealt with all of them. They didn't go there, save for a few worthless C&Ds. With ALL that's been said about this suit, that fact says the most.
chefsummer said... 1
Kate also says that she didn't make a boat load of money and yet she has a $1.3 mansion and three cars sitters a bodyguard.
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I don't think what she (really the kids) have made or will make, will ever satisfy WOS's 'NEED.' She's looking for the 'celebrity.' To be treated like she's special.
I grew up dirt poor. Eight kids and dad was a sharecropper. ONE I tell you - ONE BATHROOM - EIGHT kids - TWO parents!! Thank God for the double seater outhouse ... even in the winter!
We are all as successful as we strive to be.
I've worked myself to a mid/upper income status in IN and have more than one sibling who has worked their way into the upper/way-upper income status no matter where they'd live.
We are all thankful for what we've earned and remember where we came from.
Unfortunately, I don't think WOS will never be able to do either of those things. Why would she? She's never had to WORK for anything.
You will never be able to be satisfied with or appreciate things you didn't work for. (Thanks for those words of wisdom Dad!)
HCI posted Kate's radio appearances for tomorrow on their FB page.
9:10amET - Live
WBEB
Philadelphia
Jenn and Michael
9:20amET - Live
WBZA
Rochester
Kim and Beck
9:30amET - Live
KSON
San Diego
John and Tammy Wynette
I don't know where they got "Tammy Wynette" from-the show is called the "John and Tammy Show".
This person tweeted Monday that she would be interviewing Kate tomorrow.
Shannon Holly @Shannononair 7 Oct
Interviewing @Kateplusmy8 Gosselin Friday morning...what do you want me to ask her?
Her show is on KS95 in Minneapolis, yet HCI doesn't have her interview listed.
Seems like one hand doesn't know what the other is doing.
What happened to the money from the speaking engagements and love offerings? I bet that wasn't any small sum. Ten grand (or more) plus cash in the church basket just to talk for an hour and a half or so?
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Saved this from somewhere.It was posted after K & J hired Julie Carson May. Makes me think TFW has $$$$$$$$ squirreled away. Remember that during the show, TLC of sponsors paid for everything.
"Appearances cost $25,000, 1st class air-fair, and accommodations just to get them to a church/function."
And as you mentioned, dont' forget about the love offerings.
Rhymes with Witch said... 49
''I think the primary purpose of her lawsuit was part of her crusade to
get Jon out of his children's lives. Secondary purpose is to stop the
re release of Robert's book.''
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I agree. Somehow in her mind, TFW convinced herself that the lawsuit would strip Jon of his parental rights, giving her total control of his children. In my opinion, the REAL motive was that once she got total control of the children, she would also have total control of all the money earned by the children (and Jon)
Jon is no fool, and made sure that a chunk of the money generated by the reality show was in a trust for the children, that she can't touch.
In that same twisted thinking, she convinced herself that she could stop Robert's book being re-released.
I think she will not be successful with anything she believed the lawsuit would accomplish!
Pam, does your school have a tax ID# that can be used for tax deductible
donations? I think it would prompt more charity that way.
Not that your cause isn't worthy!
Insert Creative Username Here said... 28
TFW throwing out most of the lawsuit provides even more evidence to Jon and his lawyers that TFW filed the lawsuit more for publicity for her book than anything else.
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Question for the legal people.
If this ends up a big puddle of mud 'frivolous' lawsuit where everything gets dismissed ... Even if Tuma is working for Jon pro bono ... Can Tuma ask that WOS pay for his time spent working on this?
Anonymous said... 72
Pam, I wish there was a way to know your school, because I would go buy and send you gift cards of all kinds for those kids. Rewards like that mean a lot to kids living in chaos, especially since a lot of time their troubles are not their fault. Thank you for caring for them. I agree with you about Chipotle, even if they hadn't been grifted by Kreider. Each store is independently owned by a franchise owner and so each store would make its own decision on whether or not to support. They can't kick in ten bucks and give two kids a burrito?
Former Regular Poster
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I second what Former Regular said.
yes, we have a tax #. We are part of a district. I have gotten many things from different business ventures. I just could not believe Chipotle (just a couple blocks away) said no. Yet they tweet the grafter and you know she is getting free food. Even Walmart gave us 100 $ in 5.00 gift cards. The guys like those so they can buy starch for their jeans.
Pam
Legal Eagles! With the amended lawsuit, is discovery now out the window?
Kate is a twit said... 66
Here is an article about the cookbook certainly won't help up the sales. Too bad it's not a major media outlet.
http://www.hollywoodtake.com/kate-gosselin-awful-book-sales-reviews-controversial-mom-desperate-love-mix-help-tv-show-chances
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Oh, dear. It seems everyone has your number, Katie Irene. I would feel sorry for you but you haven't learned one damn thing in your pitiful life. What you had, and I will repeat, HAD, was a total fluke. Get over it. The only person that hasn't gotten over it is you.
I listened to her radio interview that was posted earlier. Manic was the right word to use. Is she on something? The most interesting part of the whole segment was after Kate was off and they were calling her a bitch. I wonder if she heard that.
Her reputation is ruined. There's no looking back. She needs to get over it and move on.
Suzee said... 25
Since some part of the claim withstood the motion to dismiss, there is obviously something there as a basis for the lawsuit.
Suzee said...
There's been no ruling from the judge/courts whether any part of the claim has held up to a motion to dismiss - just that TFW's attorneys dropped some things from the suit. We don't know whether those points were dropped due to SOL or some other reason.
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Thanks Suzee. I thought someone on a previous post said that the motion to dismiss was denied??? If not, then...."never mind"
I guess I am assuming that the statute of limitations begins when someone has knowledge of the alleged offense--not the date it actually occurred. Is that incorrect? That's why I said that i thought that there was a different timeline for the hacking claim than for the theft claim.
Hoosier Girl said... 86
Insert Creative Username Here said... 28
TFW throwing out most of the lawsuit provides even more evidence to Jon and his lawyers that TFW filed the lawsuit more for publicity for her book than anything else.
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Question for the legal people.
If this ends up a big puddle of mud 'frivolous' lawsuit where everything gets dismissed ... Even if Tuma is working for Jon pro bono ... Can Tuma ask that WOS pay for his time spent working on this?
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This is a verrry interesting question, I hope someone can answer it.
When BV responded last week to his tweet about adult "bully victims," saying he wasn't referring to Kate, did he say Kate and her fans or just Kate? I don't remember. I would imagine he's just about had his fill of that lot of loons by now.
Jane said... 89
Legal Eagles! With the amended lawsuit, is discovery now out the window?
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Nope. Amending a lawsuit has nothing to do with discovery. Every lawsuit involves discovery. Interrogatories and depositions will definitely be coming if this keeps moving forward.
HCI Books @HCI_Books 2h
@kateplusmy8 is going on a radio tour tomorrow to talk about her new #cookbook! Check out our Facebook page for info
https://www.facebook.com/HCIBooksPublisher
Kate fans: Depending on where you're located, some of you can listen to Kate Gosselin on the radio LIVE on Friday, 10/11 on the following stations and times (ENJOY!):
9:10amET - Live
WBEB
Philadelphia
Jenn and Michael
9:20amET - Live
WBZA
Rochester
Kim and Beck
9:30amET - Live
KSON
San Diego
John and Tammy Wynette
OK, I've never ever ever heard of WBEB
Oops never mind just looked it up and realized it's B101 which I do listen to sometimes for the music. Glad I got a heads up not to tomorrow.
Jane said... 89
Legal Eagles! With the amended lawsuit, is discovery now out the window?
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I'm not a lawyer but I would say no. Each side would still get to depose the other.
I was not asking Chipotle to feed our entire population, I was asking for a couple of 5 $ gift cards to use in our weekly drawings for good behavior for the week. That they refused me but grift that bitch a lot is what irks my behind.
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It would irk me, too, if they are grifting her. But do we really know that they are doing that, or is each tweet that she sends them profusely thanking them for wonderful food and great service just her usual begging for freebies? Do we know that they are comping her? Could be they hear her, but haven't taken the bait.
If she does get discounts there, or eats for free and they refused a few five dollar gift cards for your kids, I'd never eat there either.
Wish I could donate for your kids' incentive program! It's a great idea for those students.
Poster @ 46
ha ha good one.. add this to it..
when asked about Jon in interviews, Sorry TFW but..
" You get what you get and you dont get upset!"
How is Kate's coupon site going? I haven't heard a word about it in ages.
Was this just another random, sparkly thing that floated by and caught her attention for 5 seconds?
I'm headed off very early in the morning for Mackinac Island for a long weekend of walks, watching the leaves turn, wine on the deck, white fish dinners, bicycling and eating lots of fudge! You guys mind your manners til I get back :)
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 2m
Did bus p/u in hand-me down Abercrombie sweats,pull over hoodie &fake uggs,aka pjs. Mady:Love ur outfit! Its 1 of ur best looks! #ahhhteens
Watch someone send her some "real" Uggs. Where's the Uggs Charity Lady when you need her?
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 6m
Did bus p/u in hand-me down Abercrombie sweats,pull over hoodie &fake uggs,aka pjs.
Mady:Love ur outfit! Its 1 of ur best looks! #ahhhteens
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Trying a little too hard to reiterate our "we don't wear top brands" are we?
TFW tweets: "Did bus p/u in hand-me down Abercrombie sweats,pull over hoodie &fake uggs,aka pjs. Mady:Love ur outfit! Its 1 of ur best looks!"
Is this a grifting for Abercrombie and Uggs for herself and kids??
Rhymes with Witch says:
And as you mentioned, don't forget about the love offerings.
ALSO, remember, the selling of the Gosselin Picture for $20.00!!!
Cash ONLY.
I believe that with the $25,000.00 appearance fee, the picture, the accommodations, the love offering, because the church thought those babies were not going to be able to go to college! I believe those Mega Churches, they cleared way over 50 to 75K EACH! Cash and benefits. And they did at least 20 or 30 or more?
Church with benefits was her motto!
Did they reimburse the small churches that scraped up the money for the fee it was a lot less before JMCarson hit the fan because JMC booked MEGA CHURCHES at the same time some of the small churches were booked. They told the small churches that they were going back home to be with the kids. BALD FACE LIE! They immediately went on the road to the Mega Churches for the money.
Then God convicted Jon's heart and Jon didn't want to do it anymore. kate's heart is a jagged piece of concrete and God will have to work on her for a long time.
Pam, it made me so mad that your Chipolte turned you down a few cards. I send several really good tweets to Chipolte and gave them a piece of my mind. It is not that I don't want the G8 to benefit from it, they are innocent! But it is their Mother! kate open an ebay acct. and sell just 10 prs. of your shoes and pay for their activities and going out and shopping.
And quit taking advantage of the kindness of strangers!
Kate Gosselin@Kateplusmy89m
Did bus p/u in hand-me down Abercrombie sweats,pull over hoodie &fake uggs,aka pjs.
Mady:Love ur outfit! Its 1 of ur best looks! #ahhhteens
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What? She picked up the kids from school in her pj's? (And is she grifting for "real" Uggs?)
smh
I hope Jon was able to take Mady and Cara out to dinner, by themselves! Very nice restaurant, candlelight, music! Jon and the girls dressed to the nines! Presents, cakes and Daddy-Daughter Dancing!
They would of been thrilled!
From what I'm reading the Chipotle stores are individually owned and it seems that TFW may have a close relationship with her local store owner or manager. I don't know if she's getting gift cards or anything monetary from the store, but it seems like she's certainly trying. It's unfortunate, but each store will decide to do what they want regarding gift cards for organizations, etc. Maybe this particular store owner or manager has the hots for TFW or has bought into her sob stories of having eight kids and practically being destitute
At least TFW took the girls out to eat for their birthday and they didn't have to eat one of her cheesy casseroles with the undrained and unrinsed cans of beans or some other concoction that required 50 eggs.
I'm actually more interested in what is happening with the lawsuits.
Fan has a change of heart?
Kristine kaplan @kristine_kaplan
@Kateplusmy8 -- Kate to bad ur fans don't nohow to find ur schedule to get their bk signed -I've asked U so many times-sending my bk back😂
She's asked Kate about 10 times. Maybe Kate got spooked by the "lunch" thing. No excuse, though...Kate couldn't even publish the schedule on her site. How bad is that?
Kristine kaplan @kristine_kaplan 4 Oct
@Kateplusmy8Where can we find a list of your upcoming book signings- I live 30 minutes from you in Pottsville - lunch? I'll buy... Lol Plz
Kristine kaplan @kristine_kaplan 28 Sep
@nancivs @Kateplusmy8 still no answer - I honestly feel like returning the book to amazon - where's common courtesy😪
Wieteke @Wieteke_ 2m
@Kateplusmy8 btw...will you come sign your book in europe? Ahhhhh plsssss do a europe tour :))
LOL. Sure she will. She'll be right over there. Any country in particular, or will you just plan to meet up wherever...Paris, perhaps?
Wait, Kate picked up the kids from the bus in her jammies?
Why does she always rub her leisurely days in?
And, hand me down sweats from whom?
I only watched the end of the radio program after TFW hung up. I cannot listen to her voice -- I get sort of an allergic reaction when I hear it. I break out in hives and my left eye starts to twitch.
She's come so far down from that pure white pedestal she used to sit on, that men are talking MILF talk about her on a sex show? Is she proud of herself, I wonder?
Anya Tennyson @AnyaIW 2m
@Kateplusmy8 rock it, Kate. Not everyone can pull it off. Be sure to include a (messy) top knot next time! ;-)
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I guess this is Milo's fill-in until she stops pouting.
Does Kate keep her appearances on the QT because she's concerned about her rabid fans?
Sure seems that way.
Team Derber @houghingit 37m
@Kateplusmy8 still watching your show :) made me want to cut some pancakes with a pizza cutter ;)
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Hopefully for kids are 4 and under, not 9.
Ugh.
And, hand me down sweats from whom?
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Steve (or Moses)...
AuntieAnn said... 110
I only watched the end of the radio program after TFW hung up. I cannot listen to her voice -- I get sort of an allergic reaction when I hear it. I break out in hives and my left eye starts to twitch.
She's come so far down from that pure white pedestal she used to sit on, that men are talking MILF talk about her on a sex show? Is she proud of herself, I wonder?
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Good point. What happened to that Christian mom?
I still don't know how to post from an Iphone. Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?
Tucker's Mom said... 109
Wait, Kate picked up the kids from the bus in her jammies?
Why does she always rub her leisurely days in?
And, hand me down sweats from whom?
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I'm thinking Cara. TFW is so tiny and Cara is athletic. My DD stopped growing at 14 so Cara may tower over her soon.
AuntieAnn said... 110
I only watched the end of the radio program after TFW hung up. I cannot listen to her voice -- I get sort of an allergic reaction when I hear it. I break out in hives and my left eye starts to twitch.
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Sort of like Herbert Lom in the Inspector Clouseau movies?
She's come so far down from that pure white pedestal she used to sit on, that men are talking MILF talk about her on a sex show? Is she proud of herself, I wonder?
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This is exactly what she's brought on herself with the way she dressed. Now, she's a bit more conservative, but there was a time that she didn't leave the house without hair and make up, Daisy Dukes, plunging tops, no bra and hooker shoes.
Once the DJ steered the conversation in a sexual direction, Kate could not or would not rein it in to get on point. She just kept going on and on and on about running, trying to deflect, deflect, deflect the questions and comments about how her looks have changes so drastically since J+K+8.
Like I said, dudes can spot a boob job at 500 paces. It just wasn't adding up for that DJ and it was really kind of funny watching him trying to reconcile Christian Mommy Kate with Wernersville Barbie Kate.
Mr. DJ, it's not you-- you've been Katelighted! Katewinked! Kateboozled! Katenundrumed! Katefused! InsaniKated! Katipulated!
To all of you who provided information and links about the Does, thank you. It's clearer to me now.
I went to the local Chipotle they said no and directed me to their benevolent office and they said no too.
screw them
Pam
PatK said... 104
Kate Gosselin@Kateplusmy89m
Did bus p/u in hand-me down Abercrombie sweats,pull over hoodie &fake uggs,aka pjs.
Mady:Love ur outfit! Its 1 of ur best looks! #ahhhteens
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What? She picked up the kids from school in her pj's? (And is she grifting for "real" Uggs?)
smh
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She has real Uggs. Well Ugg flip flops. From that fan that had her at the benefit for the poor kids that were killed.
localyocul said... 101
Oh ya. Damage control in full force. What a predictable doofus. She does read here!!! LOL.
lukebandit said... 103
Rhymes with Witch says:
And as you mentioned, don't forget about the love offerings.
ALSO, remember, the selling of the Gosselin Picture for $20.00!!!
Cash ONLY
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So funny. Long before I visited these blogs my friend dragged me to one of her talks and yes they passed the plate. I stopped my poor hard working friend from donating and yes they charged $$ for an autograph. We passed.
Sort of like Herbert Lom in the Inspector Clouseau movies?
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lol! Exactly like Clouseau. Same symptoms.
TFW tweets: "Did bus p/u in hand-me down Abercrombie sweats,pull over hoodie &fake uggs,aka pjs. Mady:Love ur outfit! Its 1 of ur best looks!"
Well, that was my thought, who does she know who would give her hand me down sweats? Yes, maybe they're Cara's. Stupid biotch, it's one thiing to crawl into pj's at the end of the day but to imply you have so much free time that you are not yet dressed at bus pick up is just stupid. Worst image manager. Hope the fan returns her book.
She really blew past the turning teen birthday didn't she? Right, not about her is it.
She really blew past the turning teen birthday didn't she? Right, not about her is it.
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Didn't Kate tweet that she'd put up pics of the twins party on her website?
How's that coupon site going? Helloooooooooooooooo? Anyone there?
Crickets
Sorry Tweetle, meant to say Clouseau's boss.
I loved those Pink Panther movies. Peter Sellers was hilarious.
Have you ever seen "The Party"? We still call bird seed 'birdie num-nums' to this day.
Lalalala, hope your Mackinac trip is better than mine last weekend--- wind and rain and cold. Have a Pink Pony Martini for me!
She's so transparent. Two-timing in one tweet...wears second hand and knock offs! Lie after lie after lie
AuntieAnn said... 128
Have you ever seen "The Party"? We still call bird seed 'birdie num-nums' to this day.
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Yes! Loved that movie, and believe it or not (honestly and seriously) just yesterday "birdie num nums" popped into my head for no reason at all. We laughed over that for years.
Tucker's Mom said... 119
It just wasn't adding up for that DJ and it was really kind of funny watching him trying to reconcile Christian Mommy Kate with Wernersville Barbie Kate.
Mr. DJ, it's not you-- you've been Katelighted! Katewinked! Kateboozled! Katenundrumed! Katefused! InsaniKated! Katipulated!
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Katipulated. That's perfect.
Yes, she did dress more conservatively for some talkshows but she changed outfits to sit Sharon Stone-style (Basic Instinct) for Bethenny's show. I don't think she knows how she wants to be identified by the public anymore. She just wants to be seen so she's trying every angle.
Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said... 131
Yes! Loved that movie, and believe it or not (honestly and seriously) just yesterday "birdie num nums" popped into my head for no reason at all. We laughed over that for years.
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You're psychic Tweetle. What am I thinking right now? lol! TLC will give you your own show....oh wait...
Martha said... 130
She's so transparent. Two-timing in one tweet...wears second hand and knock offs! Lie after lie after lie
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That's why it takes a village of bloggers here to keep track of them :o) She has lied so much I don't think she knows how to stop anymore. Fake Uggs. Please. She has the real things. She was grifted them in a swag bag. There is photo of her holding them up ... somewhere on the internet.
You're psychic Tweetle. What am I thinking right now? lol! TLC will give you your own show....oh wait...
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Right now you're thinking.... that Kate is a grifting, phony, nasty piece of work!
Actually that "birdie num num" thing is weird because when it popped into my head I couldn't remember what it was from. It wasn't until you mentioned it from "The Party" that I remembered. That's truly strange.
That's why it takes a village of bloggers here to keep track of them :o) She has lied so much I don't think she knows how to stop anymore. Fake Uggs. Please. She has the real things. She was grifted them in a swag bag. There is photo of her holding them up ... somewhere on the internet.
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Why in heaven's name would she throw out Abercrombie and Uggs? Who cares? If she's going to tweet, why not just say that she picked up the kids in sweats?
ORIGINAL COMPLAINT:
COUNT I - VIOLATION OF 18 U.S.C. §1030(g)
COUNT II - VIOLATION OF 18 U.S.C. §2511
COUNT III - VIOLATION OF 18 U.S.C. §2701
COUNT IV - VIOLATIONS OF PENNSYLVANIA WIRETAPPING AND ELECTRONIC SURVEILLANCE ACT (18 PA. C.S.A. §5101, ET. SEQ.)
COUNT V - IDENTITY THEFT UNDER 18 Pa.C.S. §4120
COUNT VII - CIVIL CONSPIRACY
COUNT VII - CONCERTED TORTIOUS ACTION
COUNT VIII - INVASION OF PRIVACY
AMENDED COMPLAINT:
COUNT I - VIOLATION OF 18 U.S.C. §1030(g)
COUNT II - INVASION OF PRIVACY - PUBLICITY GIVEN TO PRIVATE LIFE
COUNT III - CIVIL CONSPIRACY
COUNT IV - CONCERTED TORTIOUS ACTION
There's only one Federal claim left - that first count is the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act (CFAA). They got rid of the other federal claims, as well as the PA wiretapping and identity theft claims.
Yes, she did dress more conservatively for some talkshows but she changed outfits to sit Sharon Stone-style (Basic Instinct)
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But then she'd have to say, "Why would I need an attorney?" ...and it's pretty obvious that she has a whole slew of them!
How's that coupon site going? Helloooooooooooooooo? Anyone there?
Crickets
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Milo's keepin that thing going. She's lookin for a new dryer.
Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said... 135
Right now you're thinking.... that Kate is a grifting, phony, nasty piece of work!
Actually that "birdie num num" thing is weird because when it popped into my head I couldn't remember what it was from. It wasn't until you mentioned it from "The Party" that I remembered. That's truly strange.
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LOL! That's exactly what I'm thinking.
We have talked about tuning in to other's thoughts here so maybe when we say we're on the same wavelength we might have to take it more seriously. hmmm. There have been many times I am about to type something and someone will say almost the identical thing before I hit submit.
But yeah the birdie num-nums thing is kind of unusual. My dear dad always picked up thoughts from other people. Maybe I've inherited it?
Sleepless In Seattle said... 136
Why in heaven's name would she throw out Abercrombie and Uggs? Who cares? If she's going to tweet, why not just say that she picked up the kids in sweats?
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She can't. She can't just admit she's mediocre and she can't stop lying. She can't say yes I got breast implants, yes I get botoxed, no I don't really run marathons, no I'm not really broke, yes I have nannies, no I'm not a real cook...
She can't help herself, leave alone anyone else trying to help her.
She's really painted herself into a corner with her double talk and lies. It's her undoing. We're watching it happen in front of us.
I listened to the radio interview and wondered how someone can make a CAREER out of saying the same things over and over again. She is not even mildly interesting, offers nothing original, and is completely transparent. Yet, somehow she still manages to fly under the radar, never challenged, never called out on her inconsistencies. The media gives her a free ride, and for the life of me I will never understand why.
The only person who has the courage to out her is being sued, but with any luck the truth will prevail, one can only hope. Go Robert.
Anonymous said... 70
We are a Middle and High school of about 65 students who are expelled from their regular school for some reason or another. I was not asking Chipotle to feed our entire population, I was asking for a couple of 5 $ gift cards to use in our weekly drawings for good behavior for the week. That they refused me but grift that bitch a lot is what irks my behind. I will NEVER ever eat at a chipotle every again.
First, how do you know that Kate is being comped there? Second, if she is that is a MARKETING thing. Marketing and charitable giving are two different things. Over and over, I have seen people comment about how it's unfair that Kate gets free things when those who are disadvantaged do not. It may not be fair, but it's how the world of celebrity works. It's not unique to Kate. Companies give celebrities free crap in exchange for free publicity. It's not altruism and has nothing to do with whether or not the company is philanthropic.
I personally wouldnt be putting it out there that I wear Abercrombie whether hand me down or not.... but then again TFW and Mike Jeffries may have more in common then realized...
http://www.businessinsider.com/abercrombie-and-fitch-worst-controversies-2013-8?op=1
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Tucker's Mom said... 119
It just wasn't adding up for that DJ and it was really kind of funny watching him trying to reconcile Christian Mommy Kate with Wernersville Barbie Kate.
Mr. DJ, it's not you-- you've been Katelighted! Katewinked! Kateboozled! Katenundrumed! Katefused! InsaniKated! Katipulated!
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Katipulated. That's perfect.
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Katipulated. Is that anything like Katestipated? Coz I don't think she ever DID take that stick out.
And she is suing Jon for making her private life public?? REALLY? Isnt this the same woman who announced to the world certain details of her husband's - er - 'shortcomings'? Or maybe that is what she is suing Robert for? Yes I can see why lifting infants by their hair and "whipping them severely" would be 'private life'.
From the Chipotle website FAQ:
"Can I start a franchise or be involved in owning a restaurant in any way?
Nope. We're not into franchising. But if you have a recommendation for a location, hit up the Development section of the site."
http://www.chipotle.com/en-us/talk_to_us/talk_to_us.aspx
Lawsuits 'R Us,
Thank you for TFW's amended complaint info!
Marketing and charitable giving are two different things. Over and over, I have seen people comment about how it's unfair that Kate gets free things when those who are disadvantaged do not. It may not be fair, but it's how the world of celebrity works
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I made the same point yesterday, but I understand it hurts because Kate's not in need of free meals at Chipotle, but people in the local community are.
That said, the Chipotle owner has the right to use his or her discretion regarding charitable contributions, and may give to others, but just can't give to all, even if Pam just wanted a couple $5 GC's.
How can Paris Hilton (or insert more current celebutant) get paid 10K to hold a bottle of FIJI water on a red carpet while destitute children in the world do not have potable water and die of water-borne diseases?
Because they're "celebs" and impact sales vis a vis endorsing products.
Mornin' all! I'm wearing my Nautica top and bottoms and Minnetonka mocs, aka PJs!! After I shower, I'm going to wear some hand me down Calvin Klein jeans, a hoodie and Merrel mules.
Then, I'm going to have some Kashi cereal with Lucerne milk and Tropicana O.J.
#haveagreatnamedroppingday
The reason there was so much inuendo and such coming from those guys is because she has that look. Seeing those bazongas up close and personal must be a 'rare treat' indeed.
I have my Kohl's outfit on paired with hand-me-down Sperry's from my daughter! #shenowhasbiggerfeetthanido
I guess it is time to move on from TFW's Chipotle tweets. Even if she is receiving anything from that particular store, it's not going to add to her millions and considering it was for her girls birthday celebration, it doesn't really matter to me. Any gift cards or special treatment is crumbs to what she's received over the past few years. If her girls enjoyed eating there for their birthday, then that's all that matters to me. Regardless of who made their cakes, I hope the girls has a good 13th birthday. I also hope they will celebrate this time with Jon also.
Also, if TFW is wearing a sweat suit or even PJ's to get her kids to the bus on time, does that even matter? She's probably going back to bed when she gets home. Is Steve still at the house? She may still be recovering from her grueling book tour and her broken foot..
I guess Kate wanted her tweeties to know that she is a harried mom wearing pj's in the car. What's odder than that? Giving brand names. And then she lies that the outfit is hand-me-down and knockoffs. Why does she do this? What a sickness she has.
I was thinking about the issue of her neck getting red blotches on TV, a definite sign of being flustered, anxious and nervous. And this woman wants a tv show? Cannot wait until an attorney gets ahold of her. I bet she'll be drugged up for that interview.
Speaking of medications, I was also comparing how her skin has changed from a freshness to pimples. That has got to be due to diet, makeup and/or medication. Any guy who thinks she is hot is just staring at her boobs, not her face.
I would bet the farm Kate wants nothing more than to settle her lawsuits rather than have to face Jon and Robert's attorneys. Not likely because I get the feeling Robert and Jon have had enough of her harrassment and are willing to go for it. I don't think she thought it would come this far. Obviously her hired gun from BV threw everything he could hoping something would stick. Fine. It's showdown time.
Anonymous 143:
I cry BS on your comment. Marketing and Altruism can and often do go hand in hand it's not ONE against the other. The wise company will market themselves as generous and out for the betterment of society - (think: the Invisible Hand - Adam Smith).
Have you heard of Toms: Buy one pair and they give a pair away.
Who's better liked, a grifting, lying, pumped up wanna be, Bleached blonde Barbie who markets her children for her own adulation, and pushes for a career in the 'industry', or a well-known billionaire who generously gives to charities and schools in an effort to improve society.
Kate vs. Gates
Marketing my flat backside...Altruistic behavior, to those who truly deserve it, wins out more than giving gift cards to self-serving, childhood sacrificing, inauthentic, "wanna-be's".
TFW said bus p/u- did she mean after school?/ If so why was she in pjs already ( or still) Wouldn't you call it drop-off if she meant the AM? I think she put that in to reinforce her comment on the radio that she doesn't wear name brands. The hand- me -downs I guess embellish the story so if one spots her in a 'brand' it will be second hand. Poor poor Kate. Hope Ugg and Abercrombie don't rise to the bait.
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 2m
Did bus p/u in hand-me down Abercrombie sweats,pull over hoodie &fake uggs,aka pjs. Mady:Love ur outfit! Its 1 of ur best looks! #ahhhteens
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Odd. Why even mention the label? I don't tell people "I went out in my a.n.a. top with my old navy jeans, and my factory outlet new balances?! I say I went out in my sweats. What a weirdo.
No libel included. That's sick. I don't really want to believe that someone can feel the way she felt about their babies.
Her sheeple won't realize this, but she is suing because her private life became public and that is such garbage. A clear indicator that their "realest reality" tv show was not at all real and that there are bits and pieces of their life that TFW wants hidden. Just not their children's privacy, of course. I was watching the second special yesterday and there is full frontal nudity of the girls. It's sick that the parents did not protect them.
I'm writing this in my Gillian OMally pj pants and tank, my old college sweatshirt, and my Great Value fuzzy slippers. #aren'tIawesome #yousowishyouwereme.
Tucker's Mom said... 149
Mornin' all! I'm wearing my Nautica top and bottoms and Minnetonka mocs, aka PJs!! After I shower, I'm going to wear some hand me down Calvin Klein jeans, a hoodie and Merrel mules.
Then, I'm going to have some Kashi cereal with Lucerne milk and Tropicana O.J.
#haveagreatnamedroppingday
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Oh Tucker's Mom, that brought a tear to my eye! We used to have a little mom and pop store downtown that sold random used junk AND oddly enough Minnetonka mocs. I lived in those mocs from about 18 - 30. They went out of business and left me Minnetonka-less :-(
I hadn't thought about those comfy little critters in a long time. I see a little on-line shopping in my future.
Rain rain go away. Two days of you in a row is one day too many..unless,of course,I've got time to sleep all day (which I definitely don't)!
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She soooo reads here. Hi, Kate!
oops, I meant on the Bethenny Show, when TFW mentioned no name brands . So I don't think they could be Cara's hand-me-down sweats if we are to believe her, lol.Not Jamie's as she is shorter...hmm.
Lalalalala said... 99
I'm headed off very early in the morning for Mackinac Island for a long weekend of walks, watching the leaves turn, wine on the deck, white fish dinners, bicycling and eating lots of fudge!
Amanda Iowa says:
That sounds heavenly.........have fun!
TLC stinks said... 158
Rain rain go away. Two days of you in a row is one day too many..unless,of course,I've got time to sleep all day (which I definitely don't)!
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She soooo reads here. Hi, Kate!
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Well she's clueless. This is the THIRD day in the row of rain. It's been raining since Wednesday. Which begs the question, was she even home on Wednesday to know if it was raining or not?
I thought this was supposed to be the 'year of the teenagers'. You'd think you might make it more special, if that's really how you feel about it.
Guess the "Give me a tv show" tour had priority.
Literally and...um...honestly and...um... typically.
Sorry girls. Mommy is way too busy being on teevee to do anything for your birthday. Like happens every year. Oh well.
Besides, it's not about you two anyway. It's the sextuplets who count. Remember how every year I'm too busy to do anything for *your* birthday, but I can manage to do 8 birthday blow-out parties for your siblings? Sucks to be you.
I think Robert will fight her because he wants the book published and also wants the truth to come out. I don't know what she is trying to accomplish with Jon's suit, other than to slander him, brainwash and keep his children from seeing him. It appears that she takes pleasure in trying to keep as many of their children out of Jon's life as possible, contrary to what she says in her phony interviews. As far as a settlement, what is she hoping to accomplish? Neither parties has money to settle. Other than stopping the book from being published, what does she expect to gain? She hasn't even denied what was written in Robert's original book to be untrue.
Maybe TFW is wearing her PJ's because she can't sleep from the guilt of being away from her kids to basically have an extended vacation with Steve. She's catching up on her sleep after she drops the kids off to school. Or this is the beginning of her breakdown.
Oh Tucker's Mom, that brought a tear to my eye! We used to have a little mom and pop store downtown that sold random used junk AND oddly enough Minnetonka mocs. I lived in those mocs from about 18 - 30. They went out of business and left me Minnetonka-less :-(Oh Tucker's Mom, that brought a tear to my eye! We used to have a little mom and pop store downtown that sold random used junk AND oddly enough Minnetonka mocs. I lived in those mocs from about 18 - 30. They went out of business and left me Minnetonka-less :-(
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They still make Minnetonkas. I just bought some on vacation. They also have an onliine store, Moccasins.com. Sales right now with free shipping. The moccasins are the same style as they were decades ago!
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 2m
Did bus p/u in hand-me down Abercrombie sweats,pull over hoodie &fake uggs,aka pjs. Mady:Love ur outfit! Its 1 of ur best looks! #ahhhteens
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what a tool, LOL..
Well, I can see that the kids would prefer their mom to be COVERED UP, instead of in her high heels and short shorts...and her boobs hanging out.
I wonder what the twins think about her lying about having a sleepover? can't post pics my a%^.
Glad to read you all have similar exquisite sleepwear. I type this wearing faded Lands End athletic shorts, Capri length, and a faded sleep t from Hilo Hattie in Kauai. Oh, and Target slippers. I feel so much better name dropping like that. Would I wear this to the bus p/u? No. Guess TFW knows her pap only shows up when invited these days.
HA HA...GUILT!! Good one. Theres not a guilty bone in her body. Its important to have some guilt or we would be capable of terrible things. And shes a perfect example of that.
How would they have divide those two small cakes among eight kids- I assume TFW did not partake...I hope they also had a cake with Jon and/or at their 'party." Now that TFW can tweet pics again, where are the b-day ones? Not that I feel she should tweet them, it's just so obvious there are NOT any, maybe by the girls' choice, hurray.
Blowiing In The Wind said... 164
They still make Minnetonkas. I just bought some on vacation. They also have an onliine store, Moccasins.com. Sales right now with free shipping. The moccasins are the same style as they were decades ago!
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Thanks for that info Blowing!
... But are you sure? Free shipping without visiting Katie's Kuewpon site?! Maybe I'll just double check with Milo ...
Bwahaha! Just kidding :-)
I'm off to shop! I love this blog!
I have tons of things to do before tonight's baseball game but I have to address the freebies. Kate only has 170,000 followers while other celebrities have millions. Why is she a good marketing tool?? Many people are struggling to put food on their tables and I know Chipolte can't put food on everyone's table but stop giving free food to a millionaire.
Chipolte your marketing practice is failing with Kate. Next time my hubby wants to go to Chipolte, I'm going to say no let's go to Wahoos instead!
Now on to the Disc Jockeys. Kate has become a gross joke on radio. Have these men seen her picture on US Magazine with the title "From Mom To Monster" that's what the real Kate looks like or the new and improved Kate on the recent cover of In Touch?
If I was a man I wouldn't " hit that " even if they paid me! Well I guess I would " hit that " but only with a wooden spoon LOL!
Odd. Why even mention the label? I don't tell people "I went out in my a.n.a. top with my old navy jeans, and my factory outlet new balances?! I say I went out in my sweats. What a weirdo.
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I think she's trying in her very feeble (minded) way to say yes, she wears name brands, but they're hand-me downs and fakes. It's her way of "piecing and patching" and to explain her remark about no name brands for them, which she said in one of her recent interviews.
hater hater @BuzzedBunny 27m
@MKSandAssocInc @ashymama2 @Allisstair @Kateplusmy8 I feel Jon really needs my help as the haters haven't done much for him lately.
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Who in the heck is this person who keeps pestering MKSandAssocinc, and for what reason? There sure are some strange people on there.
Altruistic behavior, to those who truly deserve it, wins out more than giving gift cards to self-serving, childhood sacrificing, inauthentic, "wanna-be's".
Amen, Berks Neighbor. And, I know which ones I remember and support by giving them my business.
You can get Minnetonka at Marshalls and TJ Maxx too!
Former Regular Poster
she is so shallow ..."ABERCROMBIE sweats"? that stuff is crap...so cheaply made. why not just say "sweats"...gah she is unbearably annoying. I would never ever buy A&F stuff ever again, thankfully my teens hate that store .haha..not to mention the douchenozzle of a CEO they have.
Let's throw tomstoes...100% right on!
Minnetonka at DSW.
She is scraping the bottom of the PR battle by calling in to these morning shows. I agree she is a joke for these DJ's. All she does is spout off the same lines. She is not too bright.
jillygee said... 175
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Is A & F a bad store now? I don't shop there, although my kids had a short spell of liking it. No more, though. It's so dark and over-powering perfumes assails you! But it's so old., I thought it was considered a good brand.
You can also get it at TJ Maxx and Marshall's LOL.
The reason she specifically said "Abercrombie" is to let everyone know that she's small enough to fit into their clothes. I will not have anything to do with that company because they only make close to fit "the popular kids". The CEO is a complete douche! Fake Uggs? The only thing fake on TFW are her teeth, boobs, hair, etc.
BTW, I threw on my NYDJ jeans, my Wonded Warrior tee and my Dansko clogs to take the bully to day camp this morning.
Well the Lower Susquehanna Valley is under flood warning. Does anyone think TFW will give her sympathies? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?
Formerly Duped - Here's an article on A&F for you to read.
http://articles.latimes.com/2013/may/14/local/la-me-0514-abcarian-abercrombie-20130514
Well, I'm off to buy food for our weekend camp out in my 2003 Honda Odyssey wearing my Women Within elastic waist stretch jeans, my faded Girl Scout t-shirt, my WigWam Prolite socks and my year old New Balance shoes with the Superfeet green insoles
Meagler 144
I had similar thoughts about Abercrombie.
I love Morty and Lee! They're so darn cute and seem genuine. I love the part when Lee is talking and they show Morty with his head tilted back on the couch, sleeping.
For all you McDonalds fans, I eat healthy but a Big Mac meal has been known to pass my lips every now and again. Yum. Also every now and again, a diet Coke with a Hershey bar. Cravings once in a while will not kill you.
jillygee...175 My daughters shopped at A&F when it first opened here on the Cape but they learned very quickly that their merchandise was crap. Their hard earned money was soon spent elsewhere.
... But are you sure? Free shipping without visiting Katie's Kuewpon site?! Maybe I'll just double check with Milo ...
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I don't think I'd wait for Milo. She/he is still off pouting somewhere.
Since some part of the claim withstood the motion to dismiss, there is obviously something there as a basis for the lawsuit. I agree with those from the earlier thread that said that it shouldn't be assumed that Jon will prevail, or that there is no proof. None of us know the whole story of everything that happened in that period of time. But, it is clear that Jon had an enormous amount of pressure, and did a lot of foolish things.
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I would say that the fact that some parts of the complaint meet statutory guidelines does not mean that the allegations contained in those parts can be proven, or have any merit. It simply means that those causes of action that remain were properly pled. That's where the discovery phase comes in - through depositions, the service of requests for production of documents or interrogatories (written questions), that each side can bolster their case. That's where the plaintiff must go beyond making allegations and into providing whatever proof she may have for those allegations. Discovery is not filed with the court, so the general public will not usually have access to any of that, which is appropriate as the responses will often contain private info about one party or the other.
Formerly Duped said... 179
Is A & F a bad store now? I don't shop there, although my kids had a short spell of liking it. No more, though. It's so dark and over-powering perfumes assails you! But it's so old., I thought it was considered a good brand.
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Abercrombie & Fitch has been in the news frequently for all kinds of discrimination. The CEO, Mike Jeffries, has gone on record stating,
"We go after the attractive all-American kid with a great attitude and a lot of friends. A lot of people don’t belong [in our clothes], and they can’t belong. Are we exclusionary? Absolutely.”
Robin Lewis, who co-wrote the book, The New Rules of Retail, told the website Business Insider (BI) that the reason the company doesn't carry plus-size clothing is because Jeffries "doesn't want larger people shopping in his store, he wants thin and beautiful people. He doesn't want his core customers to see people who aren't as hot as them wearing his clothing. People who wear his clothing should feel like they're one of the 'cool kids.' "
Sounds like he and Kate would make perfect bedfellows. If you Google Abercrombie & Fitch bias, you will find all kinds of stories.
I went to Robert's blog to watch the mean tweets videos. That was my laugh of the day. I especially liked the NBA edition.
Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said... 50
I don't understand the DOE thing at all. So if they're often dismissed by the courts, do they still have to go through get attorneys, go through discovery, etc?
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This is a really good question. The reason that there are Doe defendants is because when a party files a lawsuit, they may discover later on that other parties are also responsible (at least partly) for their injuries or damages. An example might be: You buy a gas barbeque from Home Depot, manufactured by XYZ BBQ Makers. When using the BBQ, there is an explosion and you are badly injured. Lawsuit is filed, and you name Home Depot (the seller), XYZ BBQ Makers (the manufacturer) as defendants, plus Doe defendants.
During the discovery phase, your attorney learns that a different firm manufactured the gas cannisters that were attached to your BBQ, and yet another firm was responsible for installing those cannisters onto each BBQ. That is two more defendants to be added to the case. So each one takes the place of one of the Doe defendants.
If a lawsuit was filed without including Doe defendants, that would mean no further defendants could be added later on. It's like a place marker for an unknown entity. Does another defendant exist? Maybe. So be prepared and include Doe defendants, to protect yourself for that possibility.
So when we speculate that BV obtained names of people who were posting on blogs, and those are going to be the Doe defendants -- it seems unlikely to me, because those names are supposedly already known. If he provided that info to Kate, then she should have given that info to her attorney, and he would have named them already. There is no benefit to waiting to name them later, if you already have that info.
I do not believe any blog posters will be involved whatsoever in this lawsuit. I also think it's likely that no other defendants will be named, but time will tell on that one.
Pam @ 70 said:
I was not asking Chipotle to feed our entire population, I was asking for a couple of 5 $ gift cards to use in our weekly drawings for good behavior for the week.
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When my son was in middle school, the big annual fundraiser was selling raffle tickets to a big school party. Parents had to contact local businesses and seek donations. I hated doing that - although most were businesses that donated each year. But in tough times, with many businesses just scraping by, it was hard work.
Still, most were willing to give to a good cause. I'm sorry your local Chipotles was not - have you considered writing to their corporate office to express your disappointment? It might make a difference.
For the students in your school, sounds like simple rewards would mean a lot. I hope other local businesses respond more favorably.
Now, if I had a broken foot, or even just a couple of broken toes, and I was going to get in the car and drive to school, (or in her case, the bus stop), to pick my kids up would I choose my Uggs (or "fake Uggs")? Would I decide to cram my broken foot or toes into Uggs, OR would I select some other footwear for the drive?
I wrote to corporate and they said sorry we are not able to help at this time. Many business and franchise owners did see the value in what we are offering. Simple rewards mean the very most to our students. We teachers even rotate and bake an entire cake or brownies and they love it. Next month I am making Puppy Chow ( khate would know it as monkey munch) and my students are already saving their tickets for the chance to win the whole bag.
We have a local hockey team and just this morning I picked up 4 tickets to a November game. They have promised 4 tickets to 3 more future games. They were happy to help.
The Ice rink gives us 4 tickets every month. Doesn't cost them a thing but sure promotes a LOT Of good will. I bet they benefit because kids bring other kids and also buy snacks and things while they are there.
One local pumpkin patch sent 25 passes.
Most businesses see the value in such a simple act.
Pam
The dressiest/fanciest thing I'm wearing today is a Judith Ripka sterling silver ring, that I bought on eBay. Not sure the brand on my pants - they are basic black pull on dressy pants - comfortable but look nice for work. Inc. blouse, and Aertrex sandals. Nothing fancy here.
On my mind today: What to make for Saturday night dinner. We had pot roast last Saturday. Maybe pork ribs. I like to make a big Saturday night meal, and then we have left overs on Sunday and watch football much of the day.
Pam, I am really sorry you had such a bad experience with your local Chipotle, especially since they seem like the sort of place that would be more eager to put their name out there in helping the local community. And they have a office whose mission is benevolence? Perhaps you might wait several months, then contact them again via mail, explain your program and mention some of the other community support that you get. Worth a try. I only say this because we recently had an experience with a local business that had always supported a fundraiser but was extremely negative about the upcoming one. Turns out he was having a bad day when the volunteer called. It can be delicate.
The Ice rink gives us 4 tickets every month. Doesn't cost them a thing but sure promotes a LOT Of good will. I bet they benefit because kids bring other kids and also buy snacks and things while they are there.
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Of course! It benefits both. It's free advertising and good business, fostering community relations. Guess Chipotle doesn't have the smarts to recognize that.
But we really don't know if Chipotle is giving Kate freebies or discount coupons, or if she's just kissing up to them and begging.
Would I decide to cram my broken foot or toes into Uggs, OR would I select some other footwear for the drive?
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I'd wear a pair of flip flops, but that's just me. Maybe they are fake Uggs slippers...the slip-on mules kind. She didn't say if they were boots.
well, it doesn't matter. Chipotle turned us down last year too. I thought maybe it was just the time of year and maybe they had already reached their limit so this time I asked early August.
when I see that grifting heffer thanking them for the food I don't care if they gave it to her or not, she makes it seem like it and it just burns me up
Pam
Is A & F a bad store now? I don't shop there, although my kids had a short spell of liking it. No more, though. It's so dark and over-powering perfumes assails you! But it's so old., I thought it was considered a good brand.
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I am not allergic to anything. Nothing at all. Not sensitive to fabrics, detergents nor any kind of perfume. I cannot, however, go into that store. Just walking past it in the mall makes me tear up. I cannot imagine working in that store all day and getting all of that stuff in my lungs.
I actually wore a shoe almost all the time when I broke my baby toe. It was taped to the next toe and the shoe gave it support too. I gritted my teeth as I put it on but it felt better with that support. I definitely didn't send it down the shaft of a boot though. Too much possibility of it getting hit and you'd also have to negotiate the turn into the shoe part. Ouch. It also did not look like hers did - it was BLACK (and then various shades of blue) for a long time and swollen so badly it looked straight instead of with the normal curl a baby toe has! And there was a lot of limping/gimping. I'm dubious...unless it's a very minor break.
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capecodmama said... 189
I went to Robert's blog to watch the mean tweets videos. That was my laugh of the day. I especially liked the NBA edition.
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The Jessica Biel horse face, Rajon Rondo and Franklin the Turtle, and Deandra Jordan can't read were my favorites! Absolutely hysterical!
This is from Robert's book. I compiled a timeline why Steve is banging Kate:
2007 - Steve hired by Discovery as bodyguard for Gosselin kids
2008 - Steve is Kate "personal" bodyguard
Discovery only paid for Steve during show filming. Kate started paying him personally for book signings, speaking engagements, TV interviews
Kate had it written into her contracts that companies would pay all expenses for her one travelling companion
Summer 2008 - Kate took personal photos of Steve, none of Jon on family trip to Outer Banks
Dec. 2008 - Kate and Steve alone in Charleston, SC working on her third book, "I Just Want a You to Know"
Jan. 2009 - when Jon takes Cara to Utah, she only communicates with Steve
March 2009 - Kate, Steve and Mady vacation in San Diego. She leaves Mady alone with a babysitter every night while she and Steve go out
Summer 2009 - Kate transfers money from accounts and sets up Steve as trustee to a trust fund that Jon cannot access
Besides this, a nanny said Kate and Steve acted like a married couple but still on their honeymoon.
July 2010 - Kate and Steve went out every night in Alaska while the kids were watched by another bodyguard at their hotel
Aug 2010 - Kate and Steve went out alone every night for walks on the beach. Another bodyguard watched over them.
His observation of what he had seen of the interactions between Steve and Gina is that they appear "distant".
No hard evidence. If not a physical affair, then at the very least " an emotional affair".
My conclusion: Steve sticks around because of $$$. He is or was in a stale marriage and found an emotionally sick woman who worships him.
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