Morty, 91, and Lee Kaufman, 90, are not actors reading a script. They are a real couple from New York. Their daughter knew a casting agent for Swiffer and recommended them for a series of commercials. The couple was cast right away and a film crew was sent over to their home for a two-day shoot. The footage that followed was so adorable and funny they became an overnight sensation. From Morty's "be careful, babe" as Lee steps on a stool to clean with their old mop (aww), to his deadpan "I don't do any cleaning; I make dirt," to their impromptu dances together in the kitchen, to their mutual amazement at how much dirt their new Swiffer mop picks up, this couple has stolen America's hearts.
Lee is a retired teacher and Morty is a retired pharmacist. The Kaufman's love story is just as sweet as it looks. Both widowed young in their early 40's. They met and fell in love when Morty's son Scott was in Lee's summer reading class. They married on Valentine's Day, and they say their respective total of six children blended together well. Morty said the secret to their long marriage is compromise and giving in. "No difference of opinion is that important as to interfere with your love for each other," Morty said.
As for what they think of all this publicity? Morty says people stop them for autographs. "We're having so much fun," he said. Lee said, "It's all very exciting."
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I can't imagine at 13 having someone's mom crashing the sleepover. And I liked all my friends' moms. She needs to let the girls be the teens they are and allow them their own friends without being a third wheel. Even if the twins are fine with it or even want her there, she still needs to give them their own space. The old cliche, she is their parent not their friend.
Whatever happened to "no gifts please, your presence is your gift"? Or has that fallen out of fashion?
where is admin? She hasn't been on for a few days.
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I'm here. :) I've been traveling and the internet options were surprisingly limited. Never had that severe of a problem before. I pulled a Kate on you and went Twitter silent tee-hee. Nonetheless it was nice to go unplugged for a few days. I'll be in Philly in about 8 hours. Leave a rumspringa for me at the gate!
Ingrid said:
TFW wants to be in control of that party. No spilling of family secrets or snooping around the house.
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My first thought is exactly what Ingrid said. She has to be in control of what is being said. I’m sure all those girls had phones so she had to control the internet access. If you can’t get confidentiality agreements signed, you make sure you’re present to control the conversation. At 13 years old, I did NOT want my mom participating. It just gets sadder and sadder watching her try so hard to be the “cool mom”. Of course, this is just my opinion
Let's throw tomatoes... Can I commiserate with you? The Red Sox struck out 17 times and lost 1-0. Grrrrr, is right.
Welcome back Admin. I did wonder where you were. Have a great time in PA.
Welcome back, Admin.
I hope someone greets you with a rumspringa!
Sorry, don't believe for one second there was a sleepover party for the twins. This is not how Kate works. She allows no one, but Steve, into her secret world. This is just another one of Kate's "tv shows" she plays out in her head and on twitter.
Re: birthday bog. The usual, screams of delight, amazing kids, traditional cakes ( I guess TFW did make them , YUM), Chipotle dinner ( girls' request of course), how much Kate loves them, that she is a cool mom etc. Oh- is Mady wearing GAP- is that not a 'brand?" It looks like a low-key celebration; I don't believe the sleepover part either or she would have HAD to post pictures. If there was any friend over, why Kate had to join in till the end is beyond me.
TFW said, "....My babies whose beauty and wonder brought me joy in volumes I didn’t know possible from the very first second I laid eyes on them — at 6 weeks gestation on a fuzzy ultrasound screen when they were mere circles with little beating hearts! They were THE two most beautiful things I had ever seen in my life. And right then and there, they gave me my favorite title, “Mommy.”
ALL...all seen through the filter of herself.
What they gave her.
Sometimes, we do get clear glimpse of how she thinks.
Hey! I found a video of the sleepover!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZP2NpFC5P48
I am surprised the girls had friends that wanted to participate in a sleepover with mom hovering over them the whole evening. You guys are right. Total control freak.
Sure, they’ve got the occasional — and very normal — bursts of attitude that goes along with being teenagers, but fortunately for me, I’m a young enough mom (cough, cough) that I myself remember turning 13 and all the difficult hormone induced years of confusion that followed.
When these difficult moments arise, I am striving to love them and be patient with them as they grow and work through this timeframe. “They can’t help it” comes to mind often and when I need extra reminders, I glance at the gummy toothless (and drooly) smiles in the baby photos I have nearby to remind me of the who is inside of that somewhat “unloveable” person displayed in front of me.
OOOHHKKKAAYY.
And what is the big box from Chipotle that says Happy Birthday? Did they give them a present or is that a take-out box and they didn't even eat out?
Here's the thing. Yes, it is normal to have attitude at 13. (she definately reads here..she addressed the Chiptotle for birthday issue and the attidtude shown on the Katy clip)...but you have to make it clear that it is unacceptable. If you are just "patient" with it they will get worse and worse and think it is OK. Sure some eye rolling and door slamming can be ignored but more intense attitude needs consequences. Spoken from experience.
OT--Suzee thanks for the idea of tomato cages for my sunflowers. Good idea for me to try next year.
I'd been trying to figure out how to deadhead my sunflowers because I thought the plant would grow new flowers if I did so, like zinnias or cosmos.
I have since discoverd that sunflowers are a determinate annual, and thus will not generate additional flowers after deadheading. Saves me standing on a ladder with loppers trying to deadhead them. Not one of my better ideas.
Ms. Goodie is still at it. She must spend her days searching out everything Gosselin. As was previously mentioned, the kids could have secret accounts. Just because Kate says they don't doesn't make it so. If they're normal teens they'll want to be connected with their friends.
@Kateplusmy8 The very personal info on Cara & Mady's Facebook was deleted. I want you to be aware. I'm not trying to cause trouble but just because Cara & Mady didn't create their Facebook, Pinterest or Instagram accts doesn't mean somebody that has accesss to your children didn't do it.
@EmeraldCityJazz kateplusmy8 I don't know, but the pics of Cara & Mady looked like they were taken this year before Jon & Liz split. Also, FB had pics of G kids w/ pit bulls that I've never seen. I could be wrong but I don't think so.
Sorry, don't believe for one second there was a sleepover party for the twins. This is not how Kate works. She allows no one, but Steve, into her secret world. This is just another one of Kate's "tv shows" she plays out in her head and on twitter.
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They've had sleepovers before, along with birthday parties, pool parties. There are have photos, so yes, she has allowed friends over. If the tups had parties for their birthdays, why wouldn't she allow the twins to have friends over for their birthdays? I believe that there was a party and that she was there with them, making it all about her.
When these difficult moments arise, I am striving to love them and be patient with them as they grow and work through this timeframe. “They can’t help it” comes to mind often
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It's a pity that she didnt have this "patient" mindset when she had to use the spanker to "happy up" one of the twins!
"Then we opened the myriad of presents that awaited my 13 year olds."
Oh we did, did we? What's with we, you got worms Kate? (I don't know where that saying came from or what it means but somehow it fits for TFW)
Did she insist they buy HER a gift to open because...well it was HER day too you know.
Doh Ra Me Me Me Me Me Me Me Me...
Hi Admin! Have fun in Philly!
Dmasy said... 194
At least she didn't tell us what she was wearing for the sleepover.
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Victoria's Secret?
Fleecing the Sheeple said... 21
Dmasy said... 194
At least she didn't tell us what she was wearing for the sleepover.
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Victoria's Secret?
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Bet you a hundred bucks she sleeps in one of Jon's old T-shirts.
@EmeraldCityJazz kateplusmy8 I don't know, but the pics of Cara & Mady looked like they were taken this year before Jon & Liz split. Also, FB had pics of G kids w/ pit bulls that I've never seen. I could be wrong but I don't think so.
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Was it announced that Jon and Liz split?
They've had sleepovers before, along with birthday parties, pool parties. There are have photos, so yes, she has allowed friends over
Interesting,..I don't recall seeing photos with friends....
lol Localyocal, very apt.
Did the tups have a party this past birthday- if so I forget what it was. I don't remember any sleepovers they had, just the one the twins attended Kate had marked on a calendar.
The Chipotle box looks like take-out- the tups must have been home as there were small party hats out with the cakes.But then how would they go to a movie? Maybe they had a not-a-nanny. What fun, going to a movie with Mommy then take-out and crooked cakes , followed by a mass opening of gifts??.
But then how would they go to a movie?
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Maybe TFW had the girls pose in front of the poster and that was the end of it. I wouldn't put it past that woman. Plus, I thought movies were too expensive?
Interesting,..I don't recall seeing photos with friends....
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There were photos with friends around the pool, as well as outside the garage apartment. I remember that there was discussion about whether they had to sign a non-disclosure agreement.
The Chipotle box looks like take-out- the tups must have been home as there were small party hats out with the cakes.But then how would they go to a movie? Maybe they had a not-a-nanny. What fun, going to a movie with Mommy then take-out and crooked cakes , followed by a mass opening of gifts??.
What's wrong with going to a movie with their mom? Their birthday was on a school night so early movie, take-out (if that was the meal of their choice) and cake at home with presents sounds OK. I can't fault her on this. Sorry. I know she's always over the top with everything but this sounds like a pretty normal MEDIOCRE birthday celebration to me.
IDK if Jon and Liz broke up because he keeps his private life private.
Mass opening of gifts? She must have had them overnighted because she only ordered them a couple of days before their b'day by her own admission.
I'll be in Philly in about 8 hours. Leave a rumspringa for me at the gate!
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Do you want me to make it a double? I was thinking about you this week. I knew you were headed here and I hoped you weren't here for three days of rain. After two weeks of gorgeous fall weather, I was thinking that gosh, admin, is here for the monsoon!
Localyokul..
Perfect!
I would hope we would not see ANY pictures of friends because that would be a huge invasion of their privacy. As for TFW, hard to tell where the need to be loved and the need to control the conversation lines cross, but inserting yourself into a teen slumber party is so not cool, or done, ever.
Hi Admin, figured you were traveling. Hope you enjoy the rumspringa and see some beautiful fall colors.
Sounds like a typical, mediocre birthday for the twins.
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I bet they enjoyed a typical mediocre party more than a lavish, expensive gala event with a multitude of people/camera crew filming every minute. There's nothing wrong with an "ordinary" teen sleepover. It beats the heck out of a parent throwing a party to end all parties, just to out-do another friend's party.
My 16 y/o h'as a Twitter. Sometimes I look through the tweets of the people who she follows and ones who they follow and kids I know are trouble. It's a great way to find out what's really going on in your kid's circle. Anyway, one day a big retweet was something like "If my parents found my Twitter I'd be screwed" or something like that. And yes, these kids tweet about being drunk, or high, or sneaking out, or speeding.
Paula said... 24
They've had sleepovers before, along with birthday parties, pool parties. There are have photos, so yes, she has allowed friends over
Interesting,..I don't recall seeing photos with friends...
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There was one of a pool party where it seemed like she hid in a bush and sneaked a pic. It was dark and you couldn't really see the features of the kids thank goodness.
Why can't TFW give a compliment without countering it with a complaint? She talks about how great the twins are then makes a point to talk about their attitude. As if people don't know teenagers get attitudes. Of course, she makes sure to mention how well she handles them. Also, I'm sure the twins LOVE that she writes how much they still need their "mommy" for all their friends to see.
Jbranck1980
Was it announced that Jon and Liz split?
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No--that is a rumor that the sheeple are putting out there. Jon had another call-in interview with The Gossip Table and the sheeple spun it that Jon and Liz broke up because he said that his girlfriend was younger than him. They seem to neglect the fact that he also said he had been dating her for over a year.
The sheeple complain that the "haters" spread rumors and don't deal in facts when it comes to Kate, but they're just as guilty when it comes to Jon. You can listen to Jon's call to the Gossip Table here:
http://www.vh1.com/video/misc/960888/jon-gosselin-calls-into-the-gossip-table.jhtml#id=1714846
Paula said... 36
There were photos with friends around the pool, as well as outside the garage apartment
Thanks for the info for those of us who don't stalk Kate's twitter or website.
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Stalk a website?
Definition of stalk:
pursue or approach stealthily.
LOL
Anon:
That birthday would be fine if TFW didn't embellish it with tales of a sleepover etc. For a 13th birthday I think something with friends would have been nice. Maybe they did have a party, who knows. The 'myriad' of gifts she admitted to ordering late...maybe sheeple gifts plus grifts as well? I doubt the party because how would she plan it, being away at 'work' if she could hardly get the gifts ordered on time?
Thanks for the info for those of us who don't stalk Kate's twitter or website.
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If you're going to make comments like that, don't expect anyone to respond to your posts. You made a comment, a reply was given (nicely) that there were photos taken, and you implied that those posters were stalkers. Not very nice!
Kara_lovesKateX8 @CrazyforKate 1h
@Kateplusmy8 It's thanksgiving over here in Canada, and I'm thankful for...1:Meeting you! 2:speaking to you! 3: hugging you! Love you, Kate
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I really hope that this child has someone or something in her life other than Kate for which she can be thankful. Her obsession with Kate is over the top. Why is it that 99 percent of Kate's fans are pre-teens or teens? Kate herself hangs out with teens at her kids' party. There's something that is really "off" there.
I really hope that this child has someone or something in her life other than Kate for which she can be thankful. Her obsession with Kate is over the top. Why is it that 99 percent of Kate's fans are pre-teens or teens? Kate herself hangs out with teens at her kids' party. There's something that is really "off" there.
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It seems fitting to me. Kate's emotional maturity is that of a 13 year old.
I wonder if a few of the adult die-hard sheeple really are that crazy over Kate, or if they just enjoy sparring with the haters. It seems that each side baits the other, and while the sheeple don't always play with a full deck, could they actually be as dumb as they come across as being? I just have the feeling that as far as being Kate supporters goes, they really aren't into her that much -- they just like getting a rise out of the haters and so they gush all over her. Of course, Milo is the exception.
I'm betting the sleepover was another fantastic tale..lie.
If there was a sleepover, did the parents have the sign CA's for children?
Marie Mcallister @bitemeaholes 4h
@kateplusmy8 tried reading the little packets to microwave it, just wasn't sure w/o consulting ur know-it-all attitude. Have a nice day
Marie Mcallister @bitemeaholes 4h
@kateplusmy8 um Kate when I make ur brown sugar oatmeal, do I put n 1/2 water & extra brown sugar to make it my own. Ty, not sure how 2.
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Her sheep are help less.
I think the sheeple sent gifts for the girls birthday along and she waited to see what they were going to get. Realizing it was not enough, she sweetened the pot and ordered in a panic more gifts and overnighted them so they would be there for the party. She might even have been waiting for certain gifts and they didn't come in.
If it is true that she was at the sleepover from beginning to end, that is deplorable. Even on the Brady Bunch, the girls had the big living room to have their sleepover, while Carol, Mike and Alice stayed in the kitchen. The boys were upstairs in their rooms, or in the tv room next to the kitchen.
I wished that Mike who is an architect, could of fixed the upstairs and made 2 rooms out of the attic so Marsha and Greg could of each had their own room. lol
If kate would keep herself out of Steve's lap on these trips and rendezvous and be more of a mother to her children, the kids might have a chance.
http://www.thefrisky.com/2013-10-12/kate-gosselins-new-cookbook-fail/#disqus_thread
Chef, that's one of the Twitter haters making fun of the fans. Check out her tweets.
I think there was a sleepover. Part of Kate's MO is to outdo whatever Jon can do and a sleepover with 9 girls is probably something his small house wouldn't accommodate very well. It's just one more way Kate can show she's a much better parent and sooooo coooooool. <<<>>
she is disgusting and I can NOT wait for the day the Karma Train backs up all over her. I am so sick of her.
Pam
Nine girls at the party; Cara, Mady, Hannah, Leah, Alexis, cool mom KATE, Deanna (?) or nanny, Fizzy Fish and the ghost of Felicity Fish.
They can't help it is a bit of a scary attitude. Actually there's quite a bit kids can help, even teens. That's what parents are for, to teach them to help it.
Good print interview with Jon.
http://www.pennlive.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2013/10/jon_gosselin_black_dog_intervi.html
I don't think very many of the sheeple are actually TFW fans. They just like fighting with the the non-fans. It seems like they are competing with the non-fans, too. If TFW gets a TV spot or an interview, her fans think she is "winning", and they, by extension, are winning, too. And of course, they can take out their hatred of men on Jon. Nobody can convince me that Ms Goody, who admits she has never even seen an episode of TFW's show, is not just in it for a fight and to be able to bash a man. The whole lot of them, the uber fans and the extreme non-fans, just want to have someone to bicker with. And the uber fans get to bully others and then claim that the ones they are bullying are actually the bullies. They love being able to bully and also being able to cry victim. It's a win-win for them.
If I ever decide to open a Twitter account, please stop me. Please.
TFW posted a pic of Mady with the sign Kendra made for them for CWS. Wow, that was a year ago! And it was 13 months from the time the K+8 was cancelled until the CWS episode filmed. Remember when K+8 was cancelled and Jon said that she should move on--that reality TV was not a career? That was probably the best advice TFW was ever given. Of course, she dismissed him by calling him mediocre, but the fact is, it's been more than 2 years and her reality TV career since then has consisted of a single, shared episode of CWS. Some career.
I''m beginning to think that Milo is off pouting somewhere. All the teen fans are getting too much attention, and it hurts her feelings. And Paige got to be on TV with TFW! That leaves Milo's single shout-out in the dust. Now Paige is the favored fan, along with the newbie (Kara). Poor Milo. She just can't compete.
Formerly Duped (50)
Perhaps the 9 were TFW, her 5 girls, Jamie, and her two girls. TFW tolerates Jamie and her kids in her house.
Nice interview with Jon in the Hbg. Patriot News.
http://www.pennlive.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2013/10/jon_gosselin_black_dog_intervi.html
Kate said she would work at McDonald's if she had to to support her kids. She talks the talk, Jon is walking the walk. He has accepted his lot in life and is moving on. For right now, being a waiter is the perfect flexible job for him as he co-parents 8 children.
Who seems like the more stable parent? The bitter one who refuses to move on, who pines for the past and will not consider working in any other field but television? Or the one who has been steadily working at whatever he can find to earn a living and find his niche in life? He may not have been successful in all his past endevors, but at least he TRIED. Which is more than TFW can say.
Dang it! My name didn't take! Trying again.
My two personal theories of the week:
1. Milo sent presents and didn't get a Thank You, so he/she is pouting
2. Admin IS Milo, since they disappeared around the same time
oh good god now they are pestering ABC to do a new wife-swap with KK and KW. As if the first one wasn't bad enough
and who names a recipe yummy stuff?
Pam
Is she implying that older moms are too old to remember 13 or not as good at handling teen angst as younger moms?? Huh? I find that completely illogical not to mention offensive. And 37 is not THAT young to have your first round of 13.
I didn't know Jon worked at restaurants when Kate was pregnant to make ends meet. Good for him. That says a lot about him. That even then he was the one looking to make their way the old fashioned way and not count on tv or other unreliable ventures.
Hoosier lol! That would be the greatest catfish ever. Hey what'd I miss? I have over 1000 comments to catch up on. Milo is off pouting? Anything else important happen? Round of applause for the blog girls who kept the place afloat.
Hoosier Girl said... 53
Dang it! My name didn't take! Trying again.
My two personal theories of the week:
1. Milo sent presents and didn't get a Thank You, so he/she is pouting
2. Admin IS Milo, since they disappeared around the same time
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Bwahahahaha!! Thanks for the laugh!
Jbranck1980
Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said... 47
Oh Okay loo you can't really tell now-a days.
In case you missed it here's another interview from KK.
http://telly.com/1B2QGCP
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 7 Oct
@Kateplusmy8 Lites Out Man..Aka "Boot Man" thought U would be thrilled he offered 2share his >> http://twitpic.com/d7dk4u No response fr U? :)
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Seems this lack of response from her bestie might be the reason for Milo's silence.
She say's
1 95% of what's written by her is all lies.
2. She supporting the kids all by herself.
3. Does she regret doing reality TV?-(Nope & the kids don't either)
- The kids of course miss TV.
Same Q&A and same um's.
She is SO Regina George's mom! :) hahaha!!!
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Why can't TFW give a compliment without countering it with a complaint?
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From what I understand, Kate did the same thing in her book, IJWYTK. She points out each child's bothersome behavior.
Seriously?
She can't just speak lovingly without giving them an insult and the "cough cough" "young" mom? Sure, Kate, I'll give you that. You wrangled Jon into marriage then started fertility treatments before the ink on your wedding papers were dry.
a usersname...54 Thanks for the link. Nice article and nice picture. Jon has a nice big smile on his face. As opposed to TFW who always looks so angry. Can't imagine walking around all day with an angry puss on my face.
2. Admin IS Milo, since they disappeared around the same time
Well now. There's a thought! :-)
In that article it quoted Jon as saying that he waited tables during *both* pregnancies. #hardworker
Layla: I thought of Jamie too, but she would have posted their pictures as she did when they went on a hayride and Jamie cleaned the oven hood.Plus would she invite her if she wasn't home until the last minute? Maybe, maybe..
That's right, CWS was a year ago! I remember something trivial when I saw part of it...Does anyone find it weird that TFW has a lot of houseplants ? Watering them is not on the Chore Chart? They were present ( with the same old fall decorations) when Katie Couric visited.Kate claimed to be growing organic garden plants indoors but the garden as far as we know never happened. When Kate cleaned her fridge the produce had stickers, as those bought at a store.
I also think it's funny Mady was allowed to keep Kendra's sign.
Thanks for the links to Jon's recent interviews. It sounds like this restaurant thing might be long term for him. I wish him luck with it. He's definitely infinitely more personable than Kate, so it seems to be a good fit.
I'm very sorry to hear that he doesn't see the twins that much. I hope that changes.
Jon's saying that it would be nice to co-parent with Kate says it all. It's absolutely nuts that Jon and Kate don't speak. It's hurting the children and I can't imagine how painful it must be to know your parents hate on another.
What a horrible, horrible example to be setting.
Nice to see you back, Admin! Enjoy Philly and maybe have a cheesesteak for me!
I'll be getting back to Philly over the holidays and am scheming already of what I'll be eating there.
Tucker I agree, it's sad. The thing is, the children are going to have break ups in their lives. Girlfriends, boyfriends, perhaps some of them will even eventually face divorce. Although no one wants that, it does happen. In life you have to deal with the end of a relationship. And life is a heck of a lot more pleasant if you have the skills to at least try to deal with it in a healthy manner. I can't imagine how damaging being the child of a painful, lengthy and bitter divorce can be. This kind of thing could have life-long consequences. Life long scars.
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Anything else important happen?
Yeah, one of our commenters, boo, went to PACER and discovered that several of the charges, complaints (whatever they're called) have been dropped from Kate's lawsuit.
Boo's comments are somewhere on the thread before this one, I think. Lots of discussion followed.
Another article (related to the one posted above) about Jon on a local central PA website, this one contains a lot of info about the restaurant and their food. After reading it and looking at the photos, I'm starving. lol
http://www.pennlive.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2013/10/my_dinner_with_jon_gosselin_at.html
WOW thanks for that info from boo. Very very interesting that they've already dropped a number of charges. Does this mean Kate's side voluntarily dropped them (can and does happen frequently), or the judge granted portions of the motion to dismiss (also happens)?
I'd love to be a fly on the wall for how that came about, and so soon in the lawsuit. In any case, thank goodness for Jon's legal team and here's to whoever got reasonable and dropped them.
@Kateplusmy8: Hey @KendraWilkinson we are cleaning up the basement and look what Mady found!!! Hahaha! Fun memories of last year.. pic.twitter.com/qQlEajxRvW
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Time for the twitterbots to come out of hiding and key in on wife swap reunion for Kendra and TFW. TFW is so transparent.
She talked about how a nurses salary and a IT salary would not be enough money to support her family.
Well, if that's the case I guess she didn't ever plan for her and Jon to support their family themselves, did she? And, how in the world does she plan to support them until they're 18? Win the lottery?
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I know we've talked about this at length but it still chaps my hide.
First of all, a nurse's salary and IT salary is plenty money to give even a large family an adequate lifestyle. Not VIP, but adequate. Especially if you're willing to work double shifts. If that lifestyle is not to your liking, you have two choices. You can choose to either not have kids or have less kids, or you can seek other more lucrative careers. She is 37 years old. She's had almost 20 years to get some other degree or training or pursue some other career path. She chose not to. Same goes for Jon, if what he did between IT and restaurants wasn't good enough for her she could choose not to marry him or discuss with him other options to pursue that would bring in more money. But, you don't get to go into this situation knowing upfront exactly the reality of it then complain LATER that suddenly this situation is a problem. And complain to the public about it and ask us for help as if we're obligated to make up the difference. We are not. WRONG time to complain about this, once again, in light of the shutdown.
Just listened to the radio interview. Kate: Please stop saying the words "I love being on TV". That is what sinks you each and every time. The words are like finger nails on a chalk board. That is why people call you a fame whore. Especially given the fact you are so terrible at it, being on TV that is. Think before you speak. Moron.
I love being on T.V. also seems kinda redundant. I assume anyone constantly pursuing this lifestyle and interviews and the like loves it or why would they be here?
KK keeps on saying that she didn't make what people think she made from her what 7yrs on TV?
And yet she's still living a rich person's life style without any real media job or real job.
So if she didn't make what people think she made how is she still living the rich & famous life style 2+yrs after being fired?
I mean come on Kate who do you think you are fooling here? Robert book title was spot on.
Seems this lack of response from her bestie might be the reason for Milo's silence.
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Milo also asked Kate how she broke her foot and there was no reply; then tweeted twice that LOM offered his cast. No reply to either of those. Would that be enough to send someone into pouting mode? Not a normal person, perhaps, but Milo...
I'm not making fun of Kendra, I actually really like her and what she did for the kids, but it's interesting to me that she misspelled lets on the sign for the kids. It should be let's. I don't necessarily consider that a difficult one to master the difference. I was under the impression she actually did quite well in school down in I think the San Diego area, and I don't think she's really all that stupid--she was pretty impressively insightful about the kids in just a few hours' time. Anyway point being people who are quite bright can still stumble over simple grammar.
Milo also asked Kate how she broke her foot and there was no reply
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The thing is if Milo were listening it was explained how Kate broke her foot--I believe she caught it on a kitchen island or something. I can see how constant questions about it when you already explained it to the public and then moved on can be very irritating. Milo really doesn't get it and she's clueless that she's a pest.
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Kate's vocabulary is somewhat limited to Yum, Yay, Awesome, and Amazing. As long as she has those four words and throws in some exclamation marks, and she's good to go.
Admin: I would like Kate to explain how the Hayes(Table for 12) manage on a cops salary. The mom does not work outside the home, they have 2 more kids, than Kate and one of the tups has cerebral palsy(that is a big medical expense, even with insurance) and dad works a dangerous job. And they manage and their kids are in all sorts of activities, as individuals. What about the other multi families, their kids are in all kinds of activities. Kate is full of it!
What I find distrubing of Kate's pics of the twins birthday, is the hats, whose birthday is it, the twins or all 8. It seems Kate can never just celebrate the twins birthday as their own. The tups think that any birthday celebrated in that house is theirs too. That is so wrong.
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Tying up lose ends here....it's been a #PerfectStorm kind of week. I'm still #UnderConstruction :(
Milo is back; admin is back. Did Jack and Katie Irene miss you? lol!!
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"Can't be a coincidence." What movie is that from?? It's in my head.
I too think Milo is pouting. I feel she thought Khate would be forever grateful for a used stinky shoe/boot and thought her idol would just gush her thankfulness over and over. It didn't happen so now Milo is off in a corner somewhere crying about how she is the #1 fan
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I can't remember the exact statistics but there is a fair percentage of American families with six or more children. Two percent, three percent? There are also a good number with eight or more. It's rare, but they're out there. The thing is, I'm trying to imagine how I would feel if my family had eight kids and I was working a normal job to support them and then I heard someone like Kate constantly telling me that you can't raise eight kids on a mediocre job and you're not really giving them what they deserve on a "golden" platter with just a mediocre job and mediocre lifestyle.
I think that would really hurt. Does she ever think about how others might take what she says? Does she ever consider she might really be hurting other moms' feelings with such sentiments?
Didn't Kate just sit there during an interview where the host said Kate made 7-figures? Kate can try to be slippery and say that reality tv didn't pay huge bucks, but she made far more money from endorsements and freebies.
In the DC area, people are really suffering from the shutdown and it's only been 2 weeks! Kate's not had a steady job in 2 whole years, so yeah, she's sitting on millions.
"oh good god now they are pestering ABC to do a new wife-swap with KK and KW. As if the first one wasn't bad enough"
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Let me guess who put this bug in ABC's ear. It was either Goody or the Uggs lady, who was trying before to get her to take Joy's place on The View. She thinks she's besties with quite a few celebrities and has a personal thing going with Lara Spencer and Theresa Caputo.
I think it would be nice of Jon saw the twins more too, but when he talks about them he describes very normal and active teens who are doing what teens should do.
The thing is even custodial parents really don't usually see much of their 13 year olds. This is a time when they are really spreading their wings and finding their own lives. I like that Jon puts his teen girls and their needs before his own. He may love to have them but if they have school, activities and plans with friends that comes first. And there's the difference. Jon may love to hang out at their sleepover all night long, but he wouldn't, because that's not what is best for a 13 year old girl's social and emotional development. Kate thinks she has the upper hand but eventually her being so pushy into their lives will backfire. And I'm guessing right about then they're going to turn to the parent who did not make them feel so violated and invaded and was not pushy and overbearing and inserting themselves into their lives.
We KNOW the kind of money she was making. We saw the Lane contract in Robert's book. They made tens of thousands for just one weekend's work. Of course the money was rolling in like crazy, who is she kidding?
Color me surprised she is still able to keep up this lifestyle--the money was far more than I ever imagined.
I thought Kendra's sign looked a bit like a child wrote it. But I don't care, as her intentions were to please the kids.Kendra never claims to be great at things, like cooking. She's actually pretty humble. It was sweet how she cared so much about the children and their regimented life and tried so hard.
Kate came in all snooty and superior, criticizing from the start that the kitchen was clutter-ish and a bit of trail mix was on the floor. She thought her parenting skills should not be questioned. Kendra tried to learn about the kids, make it work, and have some fun..And Kate brags about her gift-o-gab. Kendra merely said she enjoyed sports and asked the kids questions about themselves.
Formely I agree completely. Kate's approach was how can I make sure by the end of this they're doing things my way. A hold your breath stomp your feet approach.
Kendra's approach was how can I learn as much as I possibly can about these sweet children as PEOPLE, just because I want to connect from one person to another because that's just what life is about. And only then maybe I could help out here and there if I can, if at all. The difference in approaches was so vast it was really quite shocking.
Tucker's Mom said... 91
Didn't Kate just sit there during an interview where the host said Kate made 7-figures?
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This was in the article in the following link:
Kate says life after reality TV is rough for her too. She misses the seven-figure salary she used to rake in, and all the attention she got on Dancing with the Stars.
http://www.insideedition.com/entertainment/7049-kate-gosselin-speaks-out-about-her-life-and-her-ex-husband
Exactly , Admin! And while I am not condoning Kendra's choice to be a Playboy Bunny etc, who would I rather have watch my children, Kendra or Kate? An overwhelming vote for Kendra! She seems like a nice person
And TBH the G kids did not make it easy for her.They do have some of their mother's superior attitude, as I saw it anyway.It didn't take them long, though, to be won over by affection, fun, and a treat in their dull dismal lives.
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Lalalala, hope your Mackinac trip is better than mine last weekend--- wind and rain and cold. Have a Pink Pony Martini for me!
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HEY BOO!
Mackinac Island weather was perfect! Very cool, light breeze, sunshine..couldn't get any better. There were a lot of weddings going on at The Grand Hotel this weekend which was fun. Took our dog, Annie, so we met so many nice dogs and humans because we had her along. People are always suckers for a cute dog.
We stayed in the condos off the beaten path of downtown which had some challenges but it was fun and we'll probably go that way again. Watched a huge storm come in off the Straights of Mackinaw Saturday night which is something I'd never seen before. Awesome! Are you a Michigander like me?
PS...I was looking forward to a Pink Pony Martini but it didn't happen this time. Damn!!
Holly Upton @daisygirl2650 3h
@Kateplusmy8 Would you be allowed to call my cell phone sometime
Not so sure about this one. Appears to be an adult, but, well. Would Kate need permission to call someone?
I'm glad to read in that article that Jon doesn't call the sextuplet's "The Littles" like their lousy mom, but refers to them as "The Six". Like I mentioned previously, I'm a triplet and our family would refer to us as "The Trips" if they were speaking about all of us at the same time, which we didn't mind at all as they still called us by our name if they were speaking to us individually.
I also love how Jon acknowledges that all of the kids have different personalities, with some being the leader and some being the followers, rather then Kate lumping them together.
What I find distrubing of Kate's pics of the twins birthday, is the hats, whose birthday is it, the twins or all 8.
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I didn't find that unusual. Perhaps they had a family dinner celebration at home with all of the kids. The six got small hats (party favors) and the twins got the bigger hats. Kind of sweet, actually. Made them feel part of the celebration.
@ashymama2 @sammiemyami @Kateplusmy8 you would be shocked how many celebs are rude.
Really. I would say the opposite. You'd be shocked how many celebs are actually very kind, sweet, generous people grateful for where they are and would never dream of behaving anyway else.
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Thanks for that link. It sounds like Jon is doing well and moving in
a positive direction. Good for him.
just what the frik did she do to get the mrs. organize queen label? Last time I checked sitting on your azz barking orders does not an organize queen make.
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Does she ever think about how others might take what she says? Does she ever consider she might really be hurting other moms' feelings with such sentiments? 90
Do you think she would care? It's ALL about HER. This is the woman
who was grateful (putting it mildly) when another woman miscarried her
muliples.
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Please give Milo (the cat) some credit. Cats miss their people too.
They just show it differently than dogs do. :)
Another URL posted a comment yesterday regarding the Jr. Master Chef show. That wasn't my post because this is one of the few reality shows including children that I watch and enjoy. The kids are such incredible cooks and the judges are not as severe with them and they include fun times for these kids (i.e., dumping whipped topping on the judges heads). I also don't see the children being shown with their everyday family activities or if and how they were potty trained, etc. They are in the set studio cooking and that's about it. Kids have been competing in shows for years, so I don't see any resemblance to this show versus J&KPlus8 or Kate'sPlus8 shows and their contracts which required 40 episodes per season exploiting their kids in very personal home situations with continuous filming. I also am not familiar with the location of the Jr. Master Chef's taping. If it is LA, then these kids have protections in place for filming limitations and monetary requirements.
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Anything else important happen?
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Last week on one of the dinky radio shows TFW did to promote the crookbook, Kate crowed that she "developed" the Gosselin chocolate cake. A quick check by the sleuths here at 15 min revealed that it is from the Allrecipes website. It is identical, except Kate made 3 minor changes.
Please give Milo (the cat) some credit. Cats miss their people too.
They just show it differently than dogs do. :)
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Oh, shoot. You're right. So sorry Cat Milo! She rarely talks about Milo, only about Jack and the new puppy. I, of all people, should know about cats missing their human family! Mine show it exactly like dogs do. Such babies! Gotta love them!
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Sounds like a typical, mediocre birthday for the twins.
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I bet they enjoyed a typical mediocre party more than a lavish, expensive gala event with a multitude of people/camera crew filming every minute. There's nothing wrong with an "ordinary" teen sleepover. It beats the heck out of a parent throwing a party to end all parties, just to out-do another friend's party.
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I agree--sorry if I wasn't clear. In TFWspeak, what we call "normal" She considers to be "mediocre". Other than tFW hovering over their every move, I am delighted that the twins got to have a normal birthday.
Wow, the Pioneer Woman has sold thousands and thousands of books and it's not even released yet! Her latest book is ranked 28 and Kate's is 4700 or so.
And all of those appearances in Canada have made her a little over 100 sales.
You know what I was thinking about Jon not seeing the twins very much? If Kate would actually allow him to visit them in the mansion, it would be a win for everyone.
So all this yapping about fostering a relationship is a bunch of bullshit. She's doing the exact opposite. I'm going to go on a hunch and say that the older twins really feel a sense of loyalty to Kate and are taking her side. I mean, their parents are pitted against each other and I don't know how any of the kids can feel equanimity with the lives of their parents thrown into utter chaos with a lawsuit.
I just can not wrap my head around it.
TFW does not appear to be hurting even a little bit as far as her finances are concerned. Of course, the kids don't get trips or activities or clothes that fit,but TFW denies herself nothing. She never did want to give the kids life on a golden platter. She wanted that golden platter for herself.
It irks the heck out of me when she claims that it's not possible to support a large family on one salary. As I have mentioned before, I have a friend with 13 children. She stays home, and her husband works as an engineer. Somehow, they manage in this high-cost-of-living area. Unlike TFW, the actually DO do it all themselves.Cooking, baking, cleaning, gardening, lawn care, child car, pet grooming, car washing. No "help", and no 52-point chore lists. TFW steams me up when she makes such a big deal about how hard her life is. Seriously, I can't imagine my mom-friend ever even considering going to the spa or getting a mani-pedi or lying around on a tanning bed. And yet she is happy and content with her lot in life. Two things TFW will never be.
I also think it's pretty normal for a 13 year old girl to tend to prefer her mom at this stage in her life. That could change. Jon himself said look I was a kid of divorce and at some point I preferred mom at another it was dad. I just am glad that he seems to have such respect for them and what their preferences are no matter how those preferences may have been influenced. His patience is going to pay off in droves someday and I hope he knows that.
Kate twittered; The best surprise ever "our" Ashley and "our" Andrea at our front door fun day we had together.
Hopefully the kids got to talk to Ashley without Kate hanging around them.
I'm not sure, but I think the twins have only had mediocre birthdays, which is fine. More than fine, it's normal and that's great. It was always the sextuplets that got the big blowout bashes. Remember the episode where Mady was upset about all the parties they had? And she was right - she and her twin sister were not treated as equals when it came to their birthdays. The younger kids had major parties with custom cakes, experiences, etc.
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Tucker's Mom said...
I'm going to go on a hunch and say that the older twins really feel a sense of loyalty to Kate and are taking her side. I mean, their parents are pitted against each other and I don't know how any of the kids can feel equanimity with the lives of their parents thrown into utter chaos with a lawsuit.
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I agree, TM. The kids will inevitably be divided, and, one or more of them may actually align with TFW.
A couple of years ago Kate took the twins to a fancy resort in Wyoming on their birthday. And they also got new bicycles. That was a pretty big birthday.
just what the frik did she do to get the mrs. organize queen label? Last time I checked sitting on your azz barking orders does not an organize queen make.
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She always seems to be "organizing" something in her house. Her basement, the food storage area etc. I don't understand why it has to be reorganized over and over. If it is organized it should be easy to clean or stock shelves with new stuff. I think she just throws that word organize out for her phony image (in case it helps her get a show) but she really isn't.
Just saw the season finale of Last Tango in Halifax. Good stuff. Season two started filming this past summer. Yeah!
Off to watch the Red Sox. Patriots pulled off a win against the undefeated Saints. Here's hoping the Red Sox win.
Aren't the twins by law supposed to see their father? I always gloss over the legal stuff as it's not my forte. I thought a set custody schedule had to be followed.
I thought it was sad Jon said he doesn't see Mady and Cara much. This is not a normal divorce ~ I hope this is about the reasons he stated and not Kate's machinations.
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@Shannononair @Kateplusmy8 Super quick moving...lots of gr8 ??s & Kate answers! U are a good interviewer...& Kate handled herself w/poise!
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Kate handles herself? I thought Steve is her handler.
Here we go with the Kate Lovefest again. Gladys just isn't going away. Sigh...
LOL wasn't my Regina George's mom spot-on? I love the part where the dog is chewing on her fake boob haha
For some reason, a fan thinks that a non-fan is Jon! You can't make this stuff up. I think of all the fans, this one ranks right up there as as being one of the strangest. I remember that she asked Roseanne to tell Kate to unblock her; she told Kate to ask Jon to unblock her; she kept asking about the twins' cell phone; she repeatedly asked about the kids' school, where they go, their vacation schedules; she wanted to know when and where she could meet Kate; she tweeted that Kate needed to unblock her because she wanted to talk to her. Some sheeple are funny, while others are very creepy.
Holly Upton @daisygirl2650
@EmeraldCityJazz Are you Jon Gosselin
Holly Upton @daisygirl2650
@EmeraldCityJazz Jon did you and your girlfriend break up? My aunt said she thinks you guys broke up
Holly Upton @daisygirl2650
@Kateplusmy8 I want you to follow me on twitter at least but you don't have to have facebook
Holly Upton @daisygirl2650
@Kateplusmy8 When will you allow Mady and Cara to have a facebook page, twitter, or instagram and why don't they
Off to watch the Red Sox. Patriots pulled off a win against the undefeated Saints. Here's hoping the Red Sox win.
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I was a Sox fan until Dempster deliberately hit A-Rod. I'm no Alex fan at all, but what Dempster did was horrible...bad sportsmanship and showed how low he'd go in his contempt for allowing A-Rod to play under suspension. Dempster should have been punished more than he was. Balls can paralyze or kill if you're hit in the wrong place. Intentionally throwing to hit, not once, but three times, did it for me with that team. And to think that the fans cheered him on! I couldn't believe what I was seeing. They've had a great team this year, and it's too bad that one pitcher took it upon himself to vent his anger. You just don't throw at a player.
That said, I hope everyone's team wins! ;-)
There's nothing wrong with kids competing in things. There is something wrong with it being televised for others to *watch*. Sure, you can watch baseball games or soccer games all the time. But PEDOPHILES are restricted from these areas. Or they're supposed to be. There's at least an attempt at a filter.
Anyone can watch tv. Even criminals in jail. Ick.
There is no good reason for youngsters to be on tv. None. Unless it's for someone's entertainment. And that's just plain wrong.
Nora I'm not sure i understand what you're talking about here. I'm sure pedophiles don't wear a sign around their neck proclaiming the fact that they are pedophiles so I don't know how they can be restricted from watching kids' sporting events. I agree with URL above in that I don't really see this particular compitition show as a reality show showing every aspect of the kids' lives. They're only shown cooking. Not the same thing at all.
If you like documentaries, try to catch HBO's Miss You Can Do It. A beauty queen with cerebral palso created a pageant for girls with disabilities. I am not a fan of pageants, much less child pageants, but this. Is more a celebration of'not what is wrong but what is right.' Every girl is pampered and fussed over and loved on and gets a prize. The spirit of these girls and their parents' devotion to them is incredible. You will be smiling through your tears the entire time. I watch lots of documentaries and this is one of the best I have ever been privileged to see.
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I watched Mrs. Doubtfire today while I messed around in the kitchen making Thanksgiving dinner. When Robin Williams (Daniel/ Mrs. D) spoke to the judge about how much he loved his kids I got a little melancholy. It was such a moving articulation.
"...ever since my children were born, the moment I looked at them, I was crazy about them. Once I held them, I was hooked. I`m addicted to my children... I love them with all my heart. And the idea of someone telling me I can`t be with them, I can`t see them every day... It`s like someone saying I can`t have air. I can`t live without air, and I can`t live without them. Listen, I would do anything. I just want to be with them. I need that,sir."
I do feel so sorry for Jon and those kids. They've all been used by TFW to fulfill that grandiose dream of hers to be rich and famous and to have the world at her feet. She got it, she HAD it and she still wasn't satisfied. Anyone who isn't useful to her anymore gets kicked to the curb and the day will come when the same will go for the G8. This story will not end when they're grown and making their own decisions either. There's always going to be an inner struggle because of HER choices. She IS their mother and moms have a such a huge influence on their children.
She doesn't have a clue what kind of future she has laid out for them. She's been so busy making HER wishes come true. She thinks by saying their college funds are looked after that makes it alright. Like that justifies everything. pffft.
And now to be cruel she's doing her best to ruin the relationship Jon has with them because he put a glitch in her dream. He's their lifeline to normality and she knows it. It's frightening to think the lengths she'll go to, to crimp that lifeline.
You guys know we'll still be discussing this ten years from now. It's going to get worse, not better, as much we all want it to be.
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What is Kate going to say in a few years or even 6 or 7 years from now when she is living the exact same lifestyle and she had no high paying tv job (or such) over those years? Her house was not paid off by any means when TLC cancelled her show. It will prove beyond any doubt what a huge liar she is. No job in the past 5, 6, 7 or 12 years or more and yet she has continually to live in a huge, beautiful home on 23 acres, super expensive school for 8 kids, 3 cars or more by than, braces for all,etc. And her expenses will grow as the kids will continue to grow.
It will prove she made $250,000 an episode for Kate Plus 8 and how she continually lied about this through the years on many tv shows, magazine interviews and radio shows.
And because her children where part of her tv shows and such, I think they will be legally privy to THEIR actual income for Kate Plus 8 and J&K Plus 8. They will know what a huge liar their mother is as far as that point she continually made through the years.
She actually uses the word “unloveable” in a blog about her daughters. Not amusing. Just plain sad.
Capecodmama, what a game! I thought the Sox were done for the night but they pulled it off. Exciting finish even though I felt bad for Tori Hunter, the fall looked scarey.happy for you!
Millicent I'm going to drop the Kate and Steve relationship and let people think whatever they want.
I think you're reading to much into my usage of !!!!! I have always used them even outside this blog. I try not to use them here to much because people here seem to get annoyed by them.
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There's nothing wrong with kids competing in things. There is something wrong with it being televised for others to *watch*. Sure, you can watch baseball games or soccer games all the time. But PEDOPHILES are restricted from these areas. Or they're supposed to be. There's at least an attempt at a filter.
Anyone can watch tv. Even criminals in jail. Ick.
There is no good reason for youngsters to be on tv. None. Unless it's for someone's entertainment. And that's just plain wrong.
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I have been watching Junior Master Chef and some of these kids are really gifted. I don't feel any guilt watching just because they are children as I don't feel they are really being exploited any more than other people on a competition show.
Would you consider kids on the National Spelling Bee to be exploited? They are televised and in competition too.
I think there is a difference between what TFW has done to her children and the kids on JMC.
In kind defense of Kendra, Einstein couldn't count change or do simple algebra. When I posted about Mike designing two rooms out of one on the Brady Bunch, it was fun wishful thinking.
They had to keep it at one because they would not of had a plot for that episode, fussing over the room! lol
The birthday hats. I thought it was hurtful that for the twins that one hat said Happy Birthday and the other one said Happy Birthday Princess in the singular. Not plural. Or, the other twin should of had one like it, or did they go with TFW to the store and that is what they got and kate told them, you get what you get and you don't get upset.
OT: From the Duggars: Michelle and JimBob are trying again for another baby, full steam ahead. Rumors are that she already is. Michelle is almost 48, almost died having Josie, she had health problems then got pregnant again with Jubilee and she died.
I wonder if M and JB made that decision because Josh and Anna moved to DC and if Ma Duggar is still having babies, the older girls will have to take care of them. I couldn't imagine being in my mid 20's staying home and taking care of my mother's babies and not having a life of my own.
Would you consider kids on the National Spelling Bee to be exploited? They are televised and in competition too.
I think there is a difference between what TFW has done to her children and the kids on JMC.
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I haven't seen Master Chef so it's hard to comment, but there are indeed lots of children's competitions that are televised. There are many minors in the Olympics, especially in gymnastics. Little League is often televised, and many communities televise local high school sports.
I think one of the key differences is that you are only viewing one aspect of them--the sports and competition. You are not viewing the child in their home environment or revealing personal information about them. I can read all about the local high school quarterback's games, but I don't know that maybe his parents are divorced, that money is so tight mom is working three jobs so he can still play sports, or that he cheated on his girlfriend. Personal info is never revealed. It's about his stats.
I don't think televising a competition has to be exploitation and I am not against all minors on TV under any circumstances. I think under the right circumstances it doesn't have to be a bad thing. Sometimes there are bigger problems with the sport or competition itself (for instance, a kid doing gymnastics so much they're neglecting their schoolwork) than there is with the televised aspect of it. I.e., unlike other reality t.v. with kids, television did not make them miss school-- they would be doing their sport and missing school regardless. A gymnastics champ goes to their meet and performs whether the local access channel decides to film or not.
The competition I had a lot bigger problem with was the children on Biggest Loser. I thought that was so invasive and exploitive. It got so personal, and for those children we really did know everything about them, right down to the fact that one boy's family had to live in his uncle's basement because of the tough economy. I just can't imagine how mortifying that could be to a 12 year old child.
And yet when I saw it, those three children seemed to feel that Biggest Loser had absolutely changed their lives. I felt torn on that, since all three of them seemed to view it as some kind of life saver. I felt bad with the idea of taking that away from them in the name of exploitation. The debate rages on I suppose.
It will prove she made $250,000 an episode for Kate Plus 8 and how she continually lied about this through the years on many tv shows, magazine interviews and radio shows.
And because her children where part of her tv shows and such, I think they will be legally privy to THEIR actual income for Kate Plus 8 and J&K Plus 8. They will know what a huge liar their mother is as far as that point she continually made through the years.
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I highly recommend reading Missy Francis's book. She goes into quite a bit of detail about her money. She did have a trust but her mom controlled it and dipped into it. It was really fascinating to watch as she developed from a young girl starting to get a vague idea that there was money for her out there, to a bright teenager who had lots of questions about her money, eventually was not satisfied with its lack of protections, and finally as an almost adult taking the grave step of "stealing" her own money and hiding it from her mother. She literally took her royalties checks right out of the mailbox before her mom ever saw them. Missy was involved in some projects that churned out very consistent royalties, so those checks came quite often for her.
Interestingly enough, she has devoted her career to financial journalism.
I watched Mrs. Doubtfire today
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Even though it's just a comedy, although a brilliant one, Mrs. Doubtfire I think actually is one of the few movies to do a truly excellent job of showing parental alienation.
You really understood all sides. You got where the mom was coming from and understood why she felt dad was a deadbeat that she needed to turn her kids against, but you understood dad's perspective too.
The only unbelievable part of it was that in the end she realized the errors of her ways and stopped alienating him. Sigh. Parental alienators rarely ever stop, even if the tables turn and you take their kids, they don't stop. It was even being considered as being officially named a mental illness, that's how serious it is.
Also IMO, RWA was targeted because of the rumor that Robert's wife was a long time poster there. Kate seemed to think that because of this, Jon and Robert posted there too.
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This is exactly what I think happened. I think in her head Kate dreamed up a wild scenario where Robert and Jon were conspiring with her non-fans. While they've certainly offered comments and info to the non-fans that they wanted to put out there, it's no different than the comments and info Kate offers to HER fans and no crime. I think she really expected to find their IPs all over the blogs, socks of Robert and Jon everywhere. Instead she just found a couple haters changing their name as they went along, which was what that blog did post to post ANYWAY. That whole thing blew up in her face and in fact neither of them were found to be anywhere near that blog. It was a rabbit hole she chased for years convinced she had found the conspiracy. She truly can't fathom that Jon works double shifts and spends time with his kids and doesn't even have consistent internet to dream up all these schemes she thinks he's dreaming up. She can't fathom a world in which he is not just as obsessed with her and she is him. Jon's briefs provided a much more logical, rational, and grounded explanation of what happened that was so far from the conspiratorial and irrational version of events Kate presented, it was almost laughable.
I think when she discovered there was no conspiracy that's when she started to get really irrational. Even when faced with the facts that no such thing existed, she pushed forward with a frivolous lawsuit much of which has already been dropped. How many hours did those attorneys bill for every count she wanted to pursue that not two months later has already been axed? Sad.
I'm watching the Derrico's on the Today Show and what a beautiful family. Evonne, the mom, gave birth to quints, NATURALLY.
They have 4 already, including twins. Multiples run in the family, and they did want just ONE more, as evidenced by no fertility treatments that would increase the chances of multiples exponentially.
Notes on differences from Kate:
Evonne looks amazing. Her figure is unbelievable, given she carried 5 babies just several weeks ago. Wow.
She looked pulled together and nonplussed. No hysteria about how they're going to do it, they're just doing it (with 3 of the 5 babies at home already, the last 2 to be home within weeks).
Evonne feels positive about being able to interact with each of the kids and doesn't seem to have the same, fatalistic viewpoint that Kate did. Kate seemed to throw the towel in and resign herself to the fact that there's just never going to be enough of her, so be it.
The family isn't in crisis! Yes, they were gobsmacked to find that they were having 5 babies, but they look SO much more together. Look, Evonne's a mom already. Ain't her first rodeo. She's got this! Even saying they're ALL sleeping and on a schedule.
No whining, rifling through sofa cushions for loose change.
No begging or grifting or hinting at all. No pouting either.
The home was amazingly calm and the Derrico's looked happy, blessed and content, not put upon, no "they're just too many of us!!".
This is what I would expect joy and gratitude to look like. So, looking back, I can now see just how self-centered Kate was in the way that she acted like www.itsallaboutkate.com, even way back during their first specials.
It will be interesting to follow the Derrico's to see how they're all thriving. I hope they never consider doing reality tv and having cameras and studio lighting as perma-fixtures in their home. I hope they can manage to share their blessings and lessons with the world, but protect their children's privacy and dignity.
unlike other reality t.v. with kids, television did not make them miss school-- they would be doing their sport and missing school regardless. A gymnastics champ goes to their meet and performs whether the local access channel decides to film or not.
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This is an excellent distinction. As I've alluded to before, you have to wonder sometimes, if they G kids are just floating, dormant in space until filming commences once again, and Kate winds them up like a toy.
The difference in the kids' lives was night and day. The kids did activities and traveled BECAUSE of filming, not IN SPITE of filming.
Sure, traveling is fun, but it's not reality. This isn't a view into the real lives of 8 multiples, rather, it's a manipulated, highly-produced dramatization that actually must be really confusing.
Think about it. The kids have 2 vastly different lives. One with cameras and one without. I don't know how a child reconciles that. But then again, Kate de-ages and on the other end of the spectrum, the kids have the wisdom of Solomon at like what? age 4?
Must be pixie dust.
From her blog...
"When these difficult moments arise, I am striving to love them and be patient with them as they grow and work through this timeframe. “They can’t help it” comes to mind often and when I need extra reminders, I glance at the gummy toothless (and drooly) smiles in the baby photos I have nearby to remind me of the who is inside of that somewhat “unloveable” person displayed in front of me."
What does this have to do with celebrating the twins turning 13?! Seriously, she goes off on a tangent on how perfectly she deals with their teenage attitude...so weird! And I'm not a parent, but I have NEVER heard ANY parent call their kids "unlovable" at any point!!! Difficult, yes. Unlovable?! That's so mean!!!
"To celebrate this momentous occasion, we had a wonderful weekend sleepover that included 9 girls total. We made pizzas and had our Gosselin Birthday Cake. We ate too much candy and stayed up wayyyy too late. To be honest, I had as much fun as they did! My girls have a wonderful group of friends with whom I share many laughs and truly enjoy having around."
I'm voting that they never had a sleepover, or if they did, she wasn't around for it. There's nothing in that paragraph that is any way specific. She could be writing about anyone's sleepover, it's so generic. I don't think she takes part in any of their sleepovers, otherwise she'd know that parents are persons non grata; that's part of why they are so much fun for kids!
"On the big day (Tuesday) we ate dinner at our local Chipotle (as requested by the birthday girls) and then came home and celebrated with individual cakes — one for each — and ice cream. Then we opened the myriad of presents that awaited my 13 year olds. The smiles and screams of joy said it all…. It was the best birthday ever! Of course. Each one seems to be their favorite somehow! "
Anddddd THIS is another reason why I think she's making up the sleepover, they had two birthday cakes? She mentions the Gosselin cake in the sleepover paragraph, then mentions they had birthday cake in their actual birthday-day paragraph. It's not believable to me that the kids would have two separate cakes on two separate days. And she's much more specific in the birthday-day paragraph (they each got their own one), which makes me believe that that actually happened.
Moreover, she posted pics on twitter for their actual birthday. She wants credit and attention whenever she does do something, so I think if she did throw a sleepover for the girls, she'd be posting pics and mentioning it in real time on twitter so that she could get credit. She only tweeted after-the-fact (not like her).
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It's always great to see you post! I hope you're doing well.
The Duggars, ugh, Michelle seems to be on board with the program, but I can't stand Jim Bob. I think it's selfish as heck to intentionally get a 48-year old woman pregnant. I'm not being agist. Michelle's body has a very slim chance of pulling this off again. She's given physically each and every pregnancy, there's only so much a woman's body can give and can take with so many pregnancies.
The chances of birth defect is very high, so why risk it? Why wouldn't you want to give your child every possible chance of being born healthy?
Again, I think it comes down to Jim Bob, who Michelle obeys as his wife. If he didn't need to spread his seed constantly, she wouldn't be in danger. Come on, practice the rhythm method at least!
Love and respect your wife's life, first and foremost, and put your needs on the back burner, after impregnating your wife for almost 25 straight years.
I honest to goodness thought Abercrombie made clothes for kids and teens. I stopped going there after about the age of 20 around about when I realized the blaring music and intense cologne was going to ruin my hearing and sense of smell if I kept this up. Do they really have adult clothes for 37 year olds?
Interesting google trends stats for Jon & TFW from 2007-Now. Pretty much a time line of their 15 min of fame.
http://www.google.com/trends/explore?q=kate+gosselin#q=kate%20gosselin%2C%20jon%20gosselin&cmpt=q
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 136
I think one of the key differences is that you are only viewing one aspect of them--the sports and competition.
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Agree. Spelling Bee is very different. They have a taped interview with the contestant where they can share what they want, and that's only if they make it far enough. It's different.
I'm on the fence about MasterChef. They are treating the kids a lot nicer than they treat the adults, which is what I was originally worried about. And the kids are crazy talented too.
I think I would be less on the fence if they didn't do in-the-moments (those camera spots where they were obviously recorded at a different time, the one-on-one after-the-fact sound clips). Those, I think, lend the kids to be opened to ridicule. I think those in-the-moments are set up for story line arcs (the producer often asks questions to prompt recorded responses), so it's easy for the show producers to exploit the kids. If they didn't have that, then it would be fine. They're just cooking, and not really saying a whole lot other than cooking.
The Rachael Ray & Guy Fieri one on the other hand...I find extremely exploitive. It's less cooking and more in-the-moments, and the kids talk more about how worried they are about losing, etc... then they do actual cooking. Part of it is because they're looking for a cooking show star, rather than a chef, so the kids have to be good at more than just cooking; they have to be able to act and have presence in front of a camera, which is creepy to me.
It's funny because I would have thought the opposite would have happened. I was anticipating Rachael's show to be less exploitive than Gordon's based on their tv personas.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 141
I honest to goodness thought Abercrombie made clothes for kids and teens. I stopped going there after about the age of 20 around about when I realized the blaring music and intense cologne was going to ruin my hearing and sense of smell if I kept this up. Do they really have adult clothes for 37 year olds?
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LOL! I never even went as a teen. I think I went in their once and found out their jeans were $50 (which, back in the 90s, was way more money than it is today), and said "uh no way!" I stuck to American Eagle, Aeropostale and JCP, where you could the same style of clothing, but for much less money. I learned quickly that my $50 could go much further if I stuck to sales at other stores. Sure the "cool" kids had on A&F, but I thought they were dumb for wasting their money on it. In fact, I thought the "cool" kids were dumb for a lot of reasons and never aspired to be them. Neither did any of my friends.
I think teens are smarter than A&F give them credit for. Do teens want to fit in? Yes. But fitting in and being "cool" are different.
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She actually uses the word “unloveable” in a blog about her daughters. Not amusing. Just plain sad.
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I can't imagine a mother "striving" to love their child, even during the teen years, let alone tell it to the world.
I know as a teen I could be a handful, but I never, ever thought my mother's love wavered.
I am wondering whether HCI actually printed 50,000 copies of TFW's cookbook. Does anyone know if there is a place we can look to see if that actually happened? It would seem like they would have adjusted that number down (way down) after seeing how poor the pre-order numbers were. Apparently B&N took (not sold) 7,000 copies. Amazon has sold maybe 1,000. Those numbers do not justify a first printing of 50,000. No way will even 10% of that number actually sell. B&N will, no doubt, be unloading plenty of theirs into the bins of the Dollar Store. What about the rest? Someone either wised up and slashed the number of books printed, or that person/company is taking a massive loss.
I can't imagine a mother "striving" to love their child, even during the teen years, let alone tell it to the world.
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Such an odd thing to say. They are described as objects she has to work to love. Why is love ever even an issue? They are kids so they are trying as kids tend to be. That has nothing to do with the love part, which should be unwavering. Even mothers of axe murderers love them.
Who is Andrea?
Part of it is because they're looking for a cooking show star, rather than a chef, so the kids have to be good at more than just cooking; they have to be able to act and have presence in front of a camera, which is creepy to me.
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Wait. They're looking for a cooking show star? Like a kid to host their own cooking show? That's nuts. It's one thing to be a child actor but a cooking show??? Just read PW's posts about what it takes to make her cooking show. There is no way in the world any child could be mentally and emotionally stable enough to handle the pressure of being the star of such a thing. It's hard enough on grown adults. That is word's apart from asking a child actor to memorize some lines and hit their mark and the adults take care of everything else.
I am pretty sure Kate uses a thesaurus to substitute words to sound more intelligent. Not working for her, LOL.
I am pretty sure Kate uses a thesaurus to substitute words to sound more intelligent. Not working for her, LOL.
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That's EXACTLY what it sounds like. Like a 15 year old's padded essay. With words like expeditiously and punctual instead of fast. Thanks thesaurus.com!
Who is Andrea?
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Kate's possession?
No idea who Andrea is, but I'm so glad Ashley saw the twins for their bday. It was so obvious that they love her. She was so loving, physically holding them. It was sweet.
Although it all ended in tears during the RV trip, it's good for the kids to see how a mature young woman handles personal conflict-- actually putting the superfluous crap behind her to get along with Kate and be in the kids' lives, as she's been for years and years.
Why can't the same happen with Jon?
I don't know if there's any way this will happen as a result of getting the courts involved once again, but I wish a judge would ORDER Jon and Kate into mediation and make them at least put real effort into moving past their past and actually, really co-parent.
Jon has said this many times now in interviews, the latest I saw with Rob Shuter. Jon wishes their communication and relationship would improve and "it would be great to actually co-parent". When has Kate ever said this?
She just shrugs, frowns and expects sympathy.
If she could call Jon during filming and let the kids talk to him after (Alaska trip, I believe), she could call him now. Oh, that's right...
Ha,ha. I guess Andrea is a former nanny like Ashley. They must have dropped in to see the twins for their b-day.
Cheesy of Kate to write on that empty Chipolte box Happy Birthday. Nothing like continuing those comped meals by a Twitter advertising. So obvious.
@Chipotle is the new @Starbucks, @Coffeemate, @BellaBar, @nauseum, @infinitum.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 148
Wait. They're looking for a cooking show star? Like a kid to host their own cooking show? That's nuts. It's one thing to be a child actor but a cooking show??? Just read PW's posts about what it takes to make her cooking show. There is no way in the world any child could be mentally and emotionally stable enough to handle the pressure of being the star of such a thing. It's hard enough on grown adults. That is word's apart from asking a child actor to memorize some lines and hit their mark and the adults take care of everything else.
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I think so? Now I'm second guessing myself...I only saw one episode and stopped watching. The kids, as part of the competition, had to go in front of a camera 1-on-1 to say what their food was about. They were judged on how poised, animated, and captivating they were in front of the camera. I assumed that meant the competition was for some sort of cooking show, otherwise why judge them on that?
G kids are just floating, dormant in space until filming commences once again, and Kate winds them up like a toy.
The difference in the kids' lives was night and day. The kids did activities and traveled BECAUSE of filming, not IN SPITE of filming.
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Precisely.
Just like those stupid activities they did with Katie Couric.
I felt so sorry for them, especially the older girls. It's not like they hang around and do tug of war and egg in a spoon contests on their own. It was only done for filming purposes. How humiliating.
They couldn't have come up with something more interesting?
The kids must hate it. Here kids, let's go to the gymnastics center! You guys have fun while I film it! We'll show it to everyone! Go on! Act like you're having fun!
The part that's off-kilter about it all....TFW is getting PAID to do whatever stupid thing they come up with and look happy doing it.
(Except that she didn't get the memo on that and can't wipe the scowl off her face.)
The kids are not paid. They're forced volunteers. What if they don't feel like going to the gym center and having fun that day?
Too bad for them. They're gonna do it anyway cuz momma needs a New York hair salon appointment and some time with Steve.
So TFW is tweeting about 'our 13th Birthday"-- can't she let even a birthday belong to the kids?
About the hats: I bet the "littles" hats were recycled and maybe Cara did not want a princess one, being more tomboyish? Idk. I just hope they were happy.
Lukebandit: Fellow Brady Bunch fan here. I loved the sleepover episode! I think there is nothing more exciting for girls that age.
I doubt the twins had a sleepover party. I would love to be wrong, though. I hope at least they are allowed to attend other kids' slumber parties, if they are invited. sometimes I wonder if they have many friends. The G kids all do have a superior attitude a la Mommy, but less so; they seem like good kids at heart. Kendra broke down the walls with the kids, so it can be done. at first Mady looked a little snooty when Kendra mentioned she ate out rather than cooked at home; the tup girls looked rude and skeptical, and there were a few sarcastic remarks made.
Since some part of the claim withstood the motion to dismiss, there is obviously something there as a basis for the lawsuit.
There's been no ruling from the judge/courts whether any part of the claim has held up to a motion to dismiss - just that TFW's attorneys dropped some things from the suit. We don't know whether those points were dropped due to SOL or some other reason.
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Agree with Suzee's comments on this. I said before that most likely after one party files a motion to dismiss the other will get an opportunity to amend their complaint. Looks like that's exactly what happened. Apparently, Kate's attorneys on their own dropped some things. No ruling has been made on the merits. And usually when the judge denies a motion to dismiss it just means that IF true as pled there would be a cause of action here. It does not in any way shape or form mean the judge is saying he believes one side over the other. If you can't even survive a simple motion to dismiss there is something very wrong with your lawsuit and its fundamental core.
Here's a simple example. I file a lawsuit saying we had a contract to paint my house and you painted only half my house. That would easily survive a motion to dismiss because I've pled a clear breach of contract lawsuit. But what if the true facts were the other party actually painted ALL the house and that my claim is bogus? A motion to dismiss would still fail because the way I've pleaded the facts IF true I would have a cause of action. The MERITS of the case come later, the motion to dismiss is about whether someone even has a cause of action in the first place. Scott laid out pretty well why legally there's no cause of action even if what they said was true (most notably the SOL) .... he went a BIT into the merits but it was I think just a good tactic to start to frame the case as frivolous and absurd.
I agree, there has been absolutely no ruling from the judge himself, or herself, saying anything about the merits. Motions to dismiss can churn back and forth for months and months. I've seen courts give parties three or four opportunities to amend before really dismissing (with leave to amend, is what the docket will usually say). I'm actually quite surprised they gave in so quickly. That suggests to me they realized there were some major defects. That suggests to me the defects were so huge they weren't even willing to put it in front of the judge to decide. Very telling.
Did she really say she spends 80% of her time in the kitchen? Good grief. We talked about this before. It's wonderful if you can cook everything homemade for your family but at what cost to time WITH your family. If you're spending 80% of your home life slaved over the stove, does that not leave only 20% for everything else, including your children? How about, I spent 80% of my time at home with my FAMILY?
Happy Thanksgiving to all of the Canadian posters here. I hope you have a great day with family and friends!
I was also stuck when reading the article about Jon when he said he didn't see the twins much. I think there may be a number of factors at play here. Because of their age, they may not like the idea of their dad having a steady girlfriend, especially when TFW likely grills them about the minute they walk through the door, putting them in the middle. At 12-13 years of age you tend to stick with your mother, or the more damaged parent to offer support. They may also choose to stay at home just to get a break from their 6 younger siblings and have a weekend to themselves, not necessarily to spend all that time with their mother.
Whatever the reasons may be, Jon accepts their choices because he loves and respects them. He is secure in his love for them and knows they love him too.
Did she really say she spends 80% of her time in the kitchen? Good grief.
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Admin....we decided that what she really meant was that of the very limited time that she spends doing *anything* at home, 80% of it is in the kitchen. Lol.
Kate said there was a total of "9 girls" at the sleepover. I believe this number includes the twins and Kate, so I am guessing there were 6 friends there. I do believe there was a slumber party. Too bad Kate injected herself into it. Thirteen year old girls do not want mommy there although poor Cara and Mady must feel pressure to keep mommy happy.
I believe Kate exaggerated that she spends 80% of her time in the kitchen. Virtually impossible since she has " helpers".
I did not listen to her radio interview but there is something terribly wrong with someone who makes repeated wishes publicly for a TV show like she's got a fairy godmother cable network. She thinks manipulation will work again like it did snagging Discovery. She is totally unable to accept that she cannot revive the past. She marketed those babies and the stars aligned. It's over. And she will live off of that money until every penny has been sucked dry and the kids will get nothing from her. Was glad to hear Jon at least put money aside and the kids will get a college education and make something of their lives by not following their mother's example of greed and laziness.
(125)...For some reason, a fan thinks that a non-fan is Jon! You can't make this stuff up. I think of all the fans, this one ranks right up there as as being one of the strangest.
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Does Kate ever respond to her questions about the girls' school, Facebook, calling her on her cell phone, etc.?
On Guy V Rachel they were looking for a kid to have a pod cast cooking show. On Master Chef Jr they are not going to get a show, just the title Master Chef Jr.
I had a post on the sleepover, but I guess it was eaten by blogger.
1. She said her kids have "unlovable" moments. What the heck?! What parent would ever say that?! Difficult moments, sure. But unlovable?! That says to me she equates love with good behavior. Bad behavior means taking away love. You should always love your kid, even in the difficult moments of parenthood!
2. I don't believe she ever had a sleepover. The paragraph on the sleepover was so generic, with absolutely no specifics. And does anyone believe the twins would LET her be part of it? When I was a kid, it was just expected my mom wouldn't be there for the sleepover, and if she was, I would pulled a "Mo-om! You can go now!"
She also had a second paragraph (with pictures no less) on the twins birthday-day celebration. It was much more specific.
She said that they had Gosselin birthday cake at the sleepover, and then a second set of birthday cake on the twins birthday. Who does that? If I had a birthday party on a weekend and the birthday during the week, I wouldn't have two separate sets of birthday cakes.
We all know TFW doesn't do anything without wanting attention for it. There's no way she would go through all of the "effort" of a sleepover party without tweeting it while it was happening, and without pictures to prove how great of a mom she was. But she does have pictures and did live tweet about the twins celebration on their actual day. I believe she didn't have a sleepover but actually did do a birthday party on their actual birthday, with just the family.
We all know TFW is given to hyperbole and thesaurus usage, so 80% of her time in the kitchen is just her normal exaggeration. We have seen her meals, she forgets that, and no one spends that much time slaving over them. Plus, with the 20 hours of 'no help', the kids' chore chart and her use of paper plates, 80% is beyond exaggeration. Just another silly Kateism.
So the Great 2013 self-promotion tour has ended. What is next on the calendar for our mom of 8? Is that a very large yawn I see. And blank calendar pages. No wonder she's in her sweats at bus p/u. Reality is a bitch.
To be fair, Kate says she spends 80% of her time in the kitchen, not cooking, correct?
First of all, she exaggerates all. the. time.
Second, her kitchen is huge and open to the family area, so she could readily use it as "central command", where she can "mastermind" everyone's lives.
I know I spend a lot of time in my kitchen, not just cooking. It's my central area, open to the rest of the floor, with tv, got stereo, got a view out front, out back.
Finally, see "First of all". Kate's selling Homemaker Barbie now.
I agree with Formerly Duped and think that many, if not all, of the kids have a superior attitude. How can they help it with TFW always telling them how special they are and how they deserve everything on a golden platter. One thing that always stuck with me from the show was when there was a pool party. One of the boys said to another child "if you want to know how to do something right just ask the Gosselins". It might not be the exact quote but it's close enough. The other thing that struck me was that he referred to himself as "the Gosselins". Not "ask me" or "ask us" but rather "ask the Gosselins". TFW has it ingrained in them that they are a unit and they are more special than anyone else. I do feel sorry for Jon if TFW has turned the twins against him with her "you either stand with me or you stand against me" attitude. I wonder how many times they've had to listen to her "no one loves me" rant as she curls in a crying heap as she did after the tower jump or her or her rant about them being Palin's and not Gosselin's if they wanted to stay at the camp out. The twins comfort her with " we love you mommy" and stay by her side to placate her. All speculation of course but my guess is its not far from the truth judging by what we've seen.
Wow. Wow. Wow.
Check out the post at Blind Gossip today. It's about the Jonas family, their lies, and putting money before people.
http://blindgossip.com/?dfd538a0
So, it's Columbus Day here in the States, which is known for its sales. Kate hasn't promoted it in any way. At all.
Kate, next month we'll have Black Friday, so you might want to put that on your "Kate Calendar", and update your coupon site's "blog" section with something newer than July 11, the one and only time you posted anything.
#epicfail
I think we called it once again, ladies. I think Kate is just lending her name to a website as an endorsement. There's no way she's got anything invested in this crappy website.
In the spirit of saving on Columbus Day and any day, check out these websites that I found out about today:
www.getinvisiblehand.com
www.poachit.com
www.couponshelper.com
BTW, happy Thanksgiving to our Canadian friends!
Hi Kate! Read here much? We've been talking about how the twins couldn't even have a birthday without it being "we" and "our" and low and behold she put quotation marks around 'our' in her tweet.
@Kateplusmy8: Awww we got the BEST surprise ever this afternoon....'Our' Ashley and 'our' Andrea appeared at our door! What a fun day we had together! #❤
Yes, I agree that 13 year old girls are probably more comfortable at home with mom and they can get a break from the tups. Eventually, though, mothers and daughters will go through a phase of not liking each other much and they will turn more to Jon. I just hope she isn't bashing Jon much these days and turning the girls against him. I think they are brighter than that, although Mady appears to be mom's favorite now.
Ex Nurse said...
Since some part of the claim withstood the motion to dismiss, there is obviously something there as a basis for the lawsuit.
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The MERITS of the case come later, the motion to dismiss is about whether someone even has a cause of action in the first place.
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I wrote the original post that was quoted. Just to clarify,
1) I wrote that the motion to dismiss was denied because another poster said this:
Tucker's Mom said... 46 (Previous thread)
Another thing--Kate's claiming over and over that the case is "in litigation". There's a motion to dismiss and a denial, but that's it. It's not in court, so what's up with that?
October 5, 2013 at 11:05 AM
I was reading on and off around then, and thought that someone must have posted that the motion was denied, and I missed it. Still not sure what the status is, or if it is unknown. I don't think boo, or anyone else has said definitively.
2) I never said the case had merit or that there is absolute proof--Millicent added that in responding to that same quote. I said basis, which, to me, is the same thing as cause of action--meaning, it wasn't dismissed because there was no basis for the claim, due to SOL, lack of standing (see, I'm learning) or other issues. Not an Ex Attorney y'all ;-D
I appreciate the additional info and correction of terminology. I just don't want more to be read into what I said than was intended.
3) I think that this lawsuit is a mistake on every level. I want to see this very sad period of time, during which a family imploded, be put to rest , once and for all. Whatever wrong TFW thinks she is somehow correcting with this stupid lawsuit, is insignificant compared to the damage she is doing to her kids. And, she has committed career suicide. JMHO
Laugh for the day...
Someone tweeted TFW ..."My husband actually ate tuna thanks to @Kateplusmy8 Mac & cheese, tuna and peas recipe!! YUM-O"
Then someone tweeted in response... "Thank Kraft. It's their recipe
Then Kraft tweeted... "@FireyTopaz1 @Sarahsmithstorm @Kateplusmy8 Thanks for the Feedback! We love to hear our recipes our enjoyed!
I guess I am assuming that the statute of limitations begins when someone has knowledge of the alleged offense--not the date it actually occurred. Is that incorrect?
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It really depends on what the particular law and case law specifies. It can be any of the following and more, and I don't know enough about the SOL for each of those counts to know what it is for each individual count: 1. SOL begins to run when you first find out about the offense 2. begins to run when the offense happens whether you knew or not 3. begins to run when you reasonable SHOULD have known (i.e. you can't turn a blind eye to something then suddenly say oh I just found out!) 4. begins to run when in the case of something involving a minor they turn 18. 5. never runs at all.
"@Kateplusmy8: Awww we got the BEST surprise ever this afternoon....'Our' Ashley and 'our' Andrea appeared at our door! What a fun day we had together! #❤"
How did they get past the front gate..would think she would change the code after she fires people? If they had to call to be let in, they couldn't have appeared at her front door.
3) I think that this lawsuit is a mistake on every level. I want to see this very sad period of time, during which a family imploded, be put to rest , once and for all. Whatever wrong TFW thinks she is somehow correcting with this stupid lawsuit, is insignificant compared to the damage she is doing to her kids. And, she has committed career suicide. JMHO
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I agree and think many of us do. I get the sense that Kate feels she"ll get vindication of some sort. "See, I'm really not like what you've all seen for years and years. It was all smoke and mirrors, and editing!".
I can't say whether Jon conspired with anyone or if he did anything illegal, but the mere fact that Kate has so much to hide-- that her reputation will be ruined if she doesn't destroy Jon and quash the book, well, that says a whole lot to me.
I have my suspicions about what could really bring Kate down for good, and it goes well beyond church grifting. If true, Kate's got a lot of 'splaining to do.
Someone tweeted TFW ..."My husband actually ate tuna thanks to @Kateplusmy8 Mac & cheese, tuna and peas recipe!! YUM-O"
Then someone tweeted in response... "Thank Kraft. It's their recipe
Then Kraft tweeted... "@FireyTopaz1 @Sarahsmithstorm @Kateplusmy8 Thanks for the Feedback! We love to hear our recipes our enjoyed!
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OMG Kraft lol I HEART YOU.
I get a kick of the head sheeple and the minor sheeple who set themselves up to act as Kate's personal assistants/pr reps:
MARIE @MY_3BCOLLIES 2m
@ThePowerFrame @Kateplusmy8 You can email to ask her:) Put BUSINESS DEAL ASK KATE in the subject line of your email. (kate@kateplusmy8.com)
I'm sure Kate wants to plug a plug-in! LOL!! This person has spammed every celebrity under the sun, including Dick Van Dyke, Bill Cosby, Geraldo, Florence Henderson, The Science Guy, Bill O'Reilly, and Regis!
And Milo, bless her heart, jumped on the Bring Kate Back (CWS) bandwagon!
I love that Kraft bogarted Kate's kudos! Seriously, Kraft's recipe is better and actually respectable given that it's doctored up with some fresh stuff and flavors.
So yes, the real thanks should go to AllRecipes.com, Kraft, Pillsbury, Betty Crocker, and all boxes and cans with recipes on the back.
There's LOTS of inspiration to be found there. Why is that so shameful that you have to deny it? Seriously, go into your cupboards and fridges and look up the manufacturers website and you will find amazing recipe.
Kraft Recipes is a treasure trove of easy, inspirational recipes because they've got a lot of brands and foods in their stable.
@ThePowerFrame: @Kateplusmy8 I'm looking for a spokesperson/partner to help get my product off the ground. It's perfect 4 modern homes & helps many people
@MY_3BCOLLIES: @ThePowerFrame @Kateplusmy8 You can email to ask her:)
Put BUSINESS DEAL ASK KATE in the subject line of your email. (kate@kateplusmy8.com)
This sheeple needs to read his timeline. He's sending the exact same message to many celebrities hoping that someone will bite. TFW is nothing special, just one of many. He needs investors. Nothing more, nothing less.
@MiloandJack: @thismelissasher LOL I guess InTouch magazine is "Out of Touch" w/fact that mothers..especially @Kateplusmy8 don't have time 2b glam 24/7!
Milo admitting that TFW doesn't have natural beauty? What a world!
And here comes Milo, who can't be outdone by minor sheeple, tweeting to the power plug person:
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 12m
@ThePowerFrame @Kateplusmy8 Kate just stated on interview she is OPEN 2all opportunities..she's a positive thinker..looks like U are too! :)
The exchange with Kraft is hysterical. They included Kate in that tweet! Do they know that she took that recipe and put it into "her" book?
Then Kraft tweeted... "@FireyTopaz1 @Sarahsmithstorm @Kateplusmy8 Thanks for the Feedback! We love to hear our recipes our enjoyed!
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I suppose Kate expects a pallet of KD delivered to her front door now.
Milo is so desperate she thinks an obscure radio talk host can get Kate on another Celebrity Wife Swap. Why try and involve someone like that?
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 37m
@Shannononair @KendraWilkinson Ask her if she would be "game" 2do a rewind of #CelebrityWifeSwap w/ @Kateplusmy8. Show had highest ratings!
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 1m
@MY_3BCOLLIES @Kateplusmy8 @amazonbooks I wish @HCI_Books would contact them abt these obvious attempts 2sabotage Kate's bk sales!
MARIE @MY_3BCOLLIES 4m
@MiloandJack @Kateplusmy8 @amazonbooks @HCI_Books I do too. It's ridiculous they can get away with trying to destroy Kate's book sales:(
I thought it was all Jon's fault that the book tanked, but it's the bullies' fault on Amazon. Sabotage, I tell you, sabotage. An organized effort (they meet monthly at various locations for conference calls) just to prevent sales of Kate's books. Bullies have so much power!
It's sad, though, that these sheeple just can't see that the only person Kate has to blame is Kate herself. What a world, indeed, when you're so blind that the obsession with a celebrity becomes cult-like. They want Amazon to take down the negative reviews.The celebrity can do no wrong. The rest of the world is to blame.
Shouldn't they be asking the question..."If Kate has 170,000 followers, why aren't they buying the book?" Where are these supporters now? Let me guess -- the bullies got to them.
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Happy Thanksgiving to all of the Canadian posters here. I hope you have a great day with family and friends!
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Thanks Kiat! Back at you, if you're Cdn! We had ours yesterday. I always enjoy the leftover meal the day after even more. Hot turkey sandwiches and all that.
We have much to be thankful for!
@MiloandJack: @mscatie @MY_3BCOLLIES @Kateplusmy8 @amazonbooks The bk was HOT & moving up well...damage is done now. But I will promote it anyway I can!!
I don't recall the "book" ever being HOT & moving up. Poor deluded Milo. As far as the other tweets on this subject, don't they realize that many of the favorable comments are also by unverified reviewers and Amazon would have to take them down also? Taking down negative reviews will not help the sales of this "book". Milo, part of the damage that was done was by TFW herself when she failed to promote the "book" on the "book" tour. All she did was promote herself and plead for another job on TV, bash Jon and she only mentioned the "book" as an afterthought.
So it's not a possibility at all to the sheeple how amateur the book was was the reason no one wanted it? You could read 70 pages of it for free on amazon, that's plenty for most people to get a good sense why they want to fork over their hard earned money.
Speaking of money, when Kate asks people to spend THEIR money on her crap, those buyers have every right to seek out whatever information they want about her or the book first. If they don't like what they see that is their RIGHT not to buy. No one owes her a book buy or should feel bad about choosing not to buy.
The sheeple can be so amusing at times. If anyone says anything negative about Kate, right away they're a "bully". But they can say whatever they want about Jon and they don't consider that bullying.
There are 42 reviews of the book on Amazon, 13 of which gave the book 1 star. There are 25 reviews that gave it 5 stars, of which only 16 were verified purchasers. So I guess the other 9 good reviews, according to their logic, should also be taken down.
Why aren't all the fans who did buy the book rushing over to Amazon to praise the book? I'm sure there are more than 16 of them.
The sheeple actually think that 13 negative reviews are going to influence people not to buy the book? Yep, just blame it all on those 13 bullies that the book isn't setting record sales figures.
So it's not a possibility at all to the sheeple how amateur the book
was was the reason no one wanted it? 193
Admin, you poor delusional thing (kidding). The sheeple think this
book is the cat's pajamas, to wit: "This is a cookbook you want to
keep handy. It would make a great gift and a must have for those who
collect cookbooks."
And so on, and so on and so on.
I found this to be interesting from allrecipes's website regarding the useage of their recipes. Kate is publishing the cake recipe for her own profit, yes? She changed 2 ingredients to make it her own but no way she 'developed' it. She would have had to know the amounts & what was needed to make the cake rise & bake.
This is under the legal notice on allrecipe
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Suzy
When I see things that Milo posts, I wonder what TFW has to do in order for her to see how she is. Does she have to admit the journals are real and she abused her kids? Does she had to admit that Jon had nothing to do with the internet bullies? What will it take?
Jbranck1980
No one owes her a book buy or should feel bad about choosing not to buy. 193
Aren't you forgetting that the world OWES TFW life on a golden platter? Her kids my aunt sally. When she says "my kids" she means "me."
170K "followers" and <1000 actual sales says it all, doesn't it? Sure, Kate's non fans are posting more negatively and her fans are gushing with 5-star reviews. What's good for the goose, eh?
Plus, what else is new? Kate's a polarizing public figure who has THANKED her haters for keeping her relevant. Remember, when she was on DWTS and K+8 and the big bucks were rolling in and she was on tabloid covers everywhere?
Yeah, Kate was loving her haters for keeping her a commodity and now that the offers are drying up, now, NOW they're hurting her?
Oh, honey, you can't have it both ways.
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