At first blush FOX's Masterchef Junior, a cooking competition for eight to 13-year-olds that's pulling in good ratings for FOX, should raise red flags. Kids participate in an intense competition with tough judges in front of millions of viewers where every week someone gets the axe. Isn't
this child exploitation?
Masterchef Junior airs Fridays on Fox. The first four episodes can be viewed online for free on Fox's web site or Hulu:
Episode One, Here Come the Kids
Episode Two, School's Out
Episode Three, Whip It
Episode Four, Bad Food
Australia had their own version of the show in 2010, and viewers were concerned even then. “All but one [of these kids] will ultimately fail,” said Dr. Guy Redden, of the department of gender and cultural studies at the University of Sydney. “Adults living in a capitalist society are familiar with high-stakes, winner-takes-all competition and are better placed to deal it,” he says. “I’d question whether most adults would feel comfortable watching kids on such an emotional roller-coaster.” However columnist and mom Angela Mollard says failure isn't such a bad thing for kids. We coddle kids too much, she claims, and don't let them learn that sometimes in life you won't get a trophy. She saw nothing exploitive about a friendly cooking competition. Rather, she said it was character building.
Australian producers said they were very concerned with making sure the contestants were not exploited: “Once the kids are selected to go into the Top 50 they undergo a series of psychological evaluations. It deals with IQ, communication skills, self-awareness, and resiliency," explained Executive Producer Nick Colquhoun. “They need to be able to communicate a passion for food in order for the process to be enjoyable and they need a level of confidence. If there are signs they wouldn’t cope because they don’t have the self-confidence and it might affect them if they don’t win a challenge, then based on that advice we might not put them into the competition. By the time they arrive we’re confident they’re going to have the capacity to enjoy the process. People enjoy it because there is a sense of positivity to it.” Visitors to the set noted the children were carefree and playful, and got along well with each other.
Arguably, any time minors appear on television it's exploitation, but it's clear the American version of Masterchef Junior is also taking great pains to treat the children with "kid gloves." There is no yelling and screaming or anger. Their dishes are praised for all their good points, and any sour notes are explained in a gentle way with advice on how to improve next time. We see a different side to Gordon Ramsay, the crass British host with a notorious temper. He tells Jack, one of the most talented pint-sized chefs, that he reminds him of his son. His son's name is also Jack and he loves to cook. (We're betting some viewers didn't even know the tough ole bird had kids--we didn't.) Ramsay shows he can be a good sport too, allowing the kids to dump
under-whipped cream on his head (It wasn't just a food fight. It was a lesson in stiff peaks.). When the kids are making cakes, one of the girls makes a grave mistake halfway through the recipe and starts crying. Ramsay tells her to take a deep breath and wipe her tears, then jumps in and helps her start over, calmly reminding her she still has plenty of time. Ultimately she was sent home, but not before the judges emphasized how incredible a chef she is.
The show is shot exclusively in the studio. It doesn't peek into the children's homes, schools, or private lives. The information revealed about the children only relates to cooking--what they are good at now and what they want to do in the future with their talents. Thus far, anything else has remained strictly off limits. We don't even know where many of the children are from. The cash prize was not mentioned to the children until the competition was well underway. They were only told about the trophy at first.
The kids themselves are wildly talented, with most of them able to pull off a perfect beef Wellington, grilling and frying, various difficult desserts, seafood and dishes with exotic ingredients.
Surprisingly, Masterchef Junior has turned out to be a show that suggests reality T.V.'s true potential: less trash and fighting and more raw talent; respect for fellow competitors, and fun. Said one commentor on Entertainment Weekly: "Everyone should be watching Masterchef Junior. These kids are much more mature than many of their adult counterparts on the regular show. They all feel badly for those not moving on and want to win on their own merit."
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«Oldest ‹Older 401 – 566 of 566 Newer› Newest»And here's a super easy pork chop recipe that will put TFW to shame. It is essentially a Marcella Hazan dish, but the link does not/should give her credit.
http://www.cooks.com/recipe/2157h12f/braised-pork-chops-with-sage-and-tomatoes.html
Over in TWF' s County, your pork "recipe" sounds delicious, and I am a VERY picky eater. What you did is exactly what great cooks are able to do - take what's on hand and turn into a tasty, memorable dish. If I had a chef's toque to doff, I would doff it.
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Thanks, Fidos! They were probably the best chops we've had in a long time! This is the way my grandmother cooked, and my mom, and I picked it up from them. We very seldom use recipes. We just dump. One problem with that, though, is that I'd really like to make it again, but I don't know everything I used, or how much! I was so busy going through the cabinets and refrigerator and just dumping, that I didn't write anything down. I'm thinking it would also make a wonderful glaze for baked ham.
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Ok, what's a Wawa?
Re Mr. Tuma - I am presuming he flew into Philly and the courthouse
was in Reading.
Rhymes (3)
Wawa is a convenience store. I think they're named after a Canadian goose.
Shawn E. Tuma (@shawnetuma)
10/22/13, 3:19 PM
Federal courthouse in Reading, PA (@ Madison Building) 4sq.com/Hg8xJA
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This is his tweet and it's been posted here several times. What is the discussion about? LOL
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8.26.13 Original Complaint Filed (TFW's atty)
9.18.13 Motion to dismiss (Jon's Atty)
9.19.13 Answer to complaint (Robert's Atty)
10.02.13 Amended complaint (TFW's atty)
10.22.13 Motion to dismiss (Jon's Atty) ~ "First Motion to Dismiss for failure to state a claim in Plaintiff's Amended Complaint"
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Thank you for the clarification.
I saw this tweet on Shawn's timeline. It must be from his wife.
stacy tuma☀ @stacytuma 1h
@shawnetuma is showing philly what a Texas attorney can do! #jonandkate #texasbest
Kate is a twit said... 7
I saw this tweet on Shawn's timeline. It must be from his wife.
stacy tuma☀ @stacytuma 1h
@shawnetuma is showing philly what a Texas attorney can do! #jonandkate #texasbest
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Officially and unabashedly getting my hopes up now ;-)
stacy tuma☀ @stacytuma 1h
@shawnetuma is showing philly what a Texas attorney can do! #jonandkate #texasbest
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Oooo. Interesting. Wouldn't it be a hoot if Mrs. Tuma was a non-fan of TWF. Even more fun if she was ...dare I dream... one of us? ha!
Tweedle (5)I said something about the courthouse in Reading, and someone corrected me and said the courthouse was in Philly. I answered that I looked at Tuma's account and it said Reading...blah, blah, blah Not important. The important thing is, what happened? I am itching to find out. From Mrs. Tuma's tweet above, it looks like it went well for Tuma/Jon.
Shawn Tuma's wife is Rachel, check out his "Who am I" section on his webpage.
http://shawnetuma.com/who-am-i/
Just a clarification on the location app, Four Square. When you check into a location, you also are listed with the other people that have checked in. When the lawyer checked into the airport, it listed him as checking in with 3 other people. That does not necessarily mean he brought 3 people to Philly with him. It just means that 3 people checked into the airport.
Oooo. Interesting. Wouldn't it be a hoot if Mrs. Tuma was a non-fan of TWF. Even more fun if she was ...dare I dream... one of us? ha!
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What sane wife and mother could be a fan of Kate's actions here? I'd send Mr. Tuma off to PA like a knight in shining armor.
Save those kids from this insanity!
Kate is a twit said... 7
I saw this tweet on Shawn's timeline. It must be from his wife.
stacy tuma☀ @stacytuma 1h
@shawnetuma is showing philly what a Texas attorney can do! #jonandkate #texasbest
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Whoo hoo!!!
reader said... 11
Shawn Tuma's wife is Rachel, check out his "Who am I" section on his webpage.
http://shawnetuma.com/who-am-i/
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Compare that to BV. I think I know who I'd want in my corner and who aligns with my values.
Stacy Tuma doesn't say she is Shawn Tuma's wife. Could be another relative. Her twitter account looks legit.
Barb In Nebraska said... 12
Just a clarification on the location app, Four Square. When you check into a location, you also are listed with the other people that have checked in.
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Thanks for the explanation. I'm really not familiar with that app.
Layla said... 16
Stacy Tuma doesn't say she is Shawn Tuma's wife. Could be another relative. Her twitter account looks legit.
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Hmm... the plot thickens. Has to be about this though?
This is his tweet and it's been posted here several times. What is the discussion about? LOL
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Tweet -- no clue. I read his tweets saying he was in Reading at the Madison Building. There IS a Madison Building on Washington Street in Reading, so I assumed he knew where he was. As far as I know, there is no Madison Building at the courthouse in Philly.
Stacy Tuma doesn't say she is Shawn Tuma's wife. Could be another relative. Her twitter account looks legit.
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According to a people finder online, they are related, she lives in the same city and is 40 years old. Sister or sister-in-law (had another surname before Tuma)?
Layla said... 16
Stacy Tuma doesn't say she is Shawn Tuma's wife. Could be another relative. Her twitter account looks legit.
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On her blog, "Cure for Clara," she says Clara Tuma is her daughter, and on Shawn's "Who am I?" page he states he has a daughter named Clara. I think Stacy is Shawn's wife.
What in the heck does this mean? She's nuts! Kate would cut off her broken toe (er, foot) to live the lifestyle of the rich and famous and continue to be in the limelight. Problem is, nobody wants her.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 17m
@Kateplusmy8 I so admire& respect U 4making ur kids ur priority N Life and that U have chosen NOT 2live the #FriendsWithBenefits lifestyle!
(Leslie)
Kate said on one of the talk shows recently that there is HUGE interest in her getting back on TV (or something like that). Does anyone remember what show it was? This statement severely contradicts her court claim that Jon/Robert damaged her reputation badly therefore hurting her ability to earn a living. And it was interesting she only said it once on her book tour. I wonder if someone told her never to say that again!
What is that website where you can look at all of Kate's tweets including all the ones that are not posted on her site?. Thanks.
I think Stacy is a sister or in-law. This link is from her twitter...she has an ill child...
cureforeclara.org
That looks like Shawn on the right. Bless them!
@ Blowing In the Wind, I am not sure now, I just went by his statement on his webpage, "I am very lucky to be married to Rachel Nicole Tuma and forever blessed ..."
Maybe there were 2 Mrs Shawn Tumas?
Why on EARTH would that Milo thing tweet this to Kate? She is passive-aggressive as all get out!!! I don't know if someone made an accusation about Steve on Twitter or what, but wow, she certainly throws some doozies at TFW. I cannot believe she has not been blocked. So many times, when negative things are being said, Milo makes sure she knows!
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Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 24m
@Kateplusmy8 I so admire& respect U 4making ur kids ur priority N Life and that U have chosen NOT 2live the #FriendsWithBenefits lifestyle!
FRP
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JoyinVirginia said... 190
Hoosier Girl, don't you think razzle dazzle will show up with eight, count'em, eight showgirls?
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Oh my, you're right! ... or maybe just 7. He'll have Kate there in her hooker heels and a bustier to round out the 8 :-)
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Wouldn't it be the 8 hookers and Kate is the madam
On her blog, "Cure for Clara," she says Clara Tuma is her daughter, and on Shawn's "Who am I?" page he states he has a daughter named Clara. I think Stacy is Shawn's wife.
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He says he is married to Rachel:
"My name is Shawn Edward Tuma. I am very lucky to be married to Rachel Nicole Tuma and forever blessed to be the father of the absolute most amazing children in the world: Katherine, Clara, Christopher, Andrew, and Seth. We live in The Colony, Texas, a suburb of Dallas, Texas."
localyocul said... 24
I think Stacy is a sister or in-law. This link is from her twitter...she has an ill child...
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From Shawn's Who Am I Profile:
My name is Shawn Edward Tuma. I am very lucky to be married to Rachel Nicole Tuma and forever blessed to be the father of the absolute most amazing children in the world: Katherine, Clara, Christopher, Andrew, and Seth. We live in The Colony, Texas, a suburb of Dallas, Texas.
I guess they each have a child named Clara?
Leslie (23)
I think that was on Katie Couric's show in September. TFW said that she was dealing with the very, very end of her TLC contract and then she and the kids will be free to sign for anything they want. Then she said that "interest is huge". Of course, that is Kate-speak, could mean the networks' interest in her and the kids is huge, or it could mean that her interest in another show is huge. I'm guessing it's her, not the networks, who has the huge interest. She's tricky with her wording.
Does this make sense?
Shawn is married to Rachel, according to his Who Am I. Shawn has a daughter, Clara (according to his Who Am I). Stacy is his sister-in-law who has the Cure for Clara on her website because it's her niece. Stacy is the director of Cure For Clara (according to her website), but she doesn't mention that it's her daughter.
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@ Blowing In the Wind, I am not sure now, I just went by his statement on his webpage, "I am very lucky to be married to Rachel Nicole Tuma and forever blessed ..."
Maybe there were 2 Mrs Shawn Tumas?
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That makes sense.
Shawn is married to Rachel, according to his Who Am I. Shawn has a daughter, Clara (according to his Who Am I). Stacy is his sister-in-law who has the Cure for Clara on her website because it's her niece. Stacy is the director of Cure For Clara (according to her website), but she doesn't mention that it's her daughter
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From the "Cure for Clara" blog:
http://www.cureforeclara.org/
Learn About Clara
Clara is my 7 year old daughter, who was diagnosed with this rare and life-threatening disease. Since she was diagnosed she has undergone very aggressive treatment to try to put her in remission. She has had MRI's, muscle biopsies, swallow tests, weekly 3-day IV's of high dose steroids, weekly injections of chemotherapy medicine, and numerous daily medications.
Is it possible Stacy is the ex-wife?
Who still roots for her ex-husband?
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@ Blowing In the Wind, I am not sure now, I just went by his statement on his webpage, "I am very lucky to be married to Rachel Nicole Tuma and forever blessed ..."
Maybe there were 2 Mrs Shawn Tumas?
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That makes sense.
lol! That makes sense, too. The first Mrs. Shawn is the mother of Clara. Second wife is Rachel.
I wonder what happened today...
Is it possible Stacy is the ex-wife?
Who still roots for her ex-husband?
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I know an ex-wife like this. She is still good friends with her ex. They sit together at events for the kids, do Sunday dinners together with the kids and new spouses, and have even traveled together. When I first met them I found it a little odd and borderline dysfunctional, but I see now how good it has been for the two kids they had together. It's a yours mine and ours situation, even the ex's new children. And it's all sincere. Not for everyone but it's sure better than hating your ex and what that does to kids.
By the way I adore the names he and his wife chose for their five kids. I think every single one is in my top 10.
and that U have chosen NOT 2live the #FriendsWithBenefits lifestyle!
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How does SHE know Kate doesn't have one or more friends with benefits? Is she in her bedroom every night? And moreover, way to be judgmental. TFW is a grown woman. If she wants to have a friends with benefits, she can do so without Milo's approval.
Yay, Admin is here!
Is it possible Stacy is the ex-wife?
Who still roots for her ex-husband?
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That did not come out the way I wanted. I am thinking Stacy must be the former wife, but if that is the case and I do not know, but how great that she believes in her ex and publicly and cheers him on. Another good sign, again if this is in fact the case.
Tweet -- who was the fan who kept asking Kate the same question over and over again, several times a day...something about Kate's favorite songs, her favorite drink, something about Scooby Doo, Collin dancing...
I can't remember her Twitter name and it's bothering me. Did she totally disappear?
I'd like to officially welcome a new staff member on board with us who started this week! I think what with the lawsuit and the reality of this blog staying on moderation indefinitely, it was warranted. My helpers are all volunteers, they are a small crew but are wonderful, they have basically run this blog all on their own for many weeks over the years when I've been very busy or out of town, and during the weekdays it's usually all on them to handle. They've allowed me to keep this place running without neglecting my own life. I really think I would have had to say thanks for the memories but we're closing our doors but for their help. I am so grateful. So please give a warm welcome to our new pool girl!!
Ok here is the update I got, unfortunately not much can be said about what happened but it looks promising. Especially about the judge who seemed to be taking Kate to task for what exactly she expects to get out of this (what does she anyway? We've asked that many times. Just to feel like she "won"? The court system doesn't have time for such pettiness.). And I love how Razamatazz got the wrong courthouse. I picture him showing up with his showgirls putting on his dog and pony show to an audience of confused faces at the wrong place. Jazz hands fail!
"Shawn Tuma is brilliant. His newest motion to dismiss is a great read. It was a pleasure meeting him today. So full of energy. Kate, Jon and Robert were not permitted in the meeting. It was just for the judge and lawyers. Unfortunately but amusingly, Kate's lawyer went to the Philadelphia court house instead of Reading and missed the proceedings. Oops. The report I got was that the judge is having a difficult time in understanding what Kate could possibly gain by this lawsuit except to give further publicity to the book. Now we wait some more."
Welcome new pool girl. You behave your self with those pool boys!
Admin, thank you for all you do.
This is a great blog. I would miss it if the doors closed. I have learned and laughed and come to admire some terrific ladies.
Does Boo or anyone with access to the docket see the new motion to dismiss up there yet from today? If so could you email it to me? I much appreciate your help with keeping us updated with the briefs!
The report I got was that the judge is having a difficult time in understanding what Kate could possibly gain by this lawsuit except to give further publicity to the book. Now we wait some more."
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Oh, this is going to get good :)
Oh I also picture Kate seething that she wasn't allowed to talk to the judge or attend the conference. Aww, so sad. What, I can't be there?? But I'm THEE Kate Gosselin!!
Welcome new staffer! I imagine with things getting interesting you will be busy!
Admin, Did you then read the motion to dismiss filed this morning?
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''Is it possible Stacy is the ex-wife? Who still roots for her ex-husband?''
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I think this is the answer. Who wouldn't root for anyone that takes on TFMJG and her bullying attempt to crush Jon?
My entire family refuse to cut out ex-husbands and/or their current wives/SO. They all remain a part of our family, because they are the fathers of our beloved children. Ex-husbands and their current wives stay w/ex-wives when in town. No one blinks an eye. We've been told we're ''evolved'', but it just seems normal to us!
Oh I wanted to mention there is another person who says they are an insider who told me something would be filed this morning from Jon's camp. I didn't mention it here but I wanted to say that when in fact Tuma did file his motion this morning, that pretty much sealed the deal for me that that insider also knows what they are talking about. Thank you to the moles for being brave enough to talk and let us know what's happening.
Welcome pool girl!!! This blog has become so much more a Gosselin discussion, but a place where women of all ages, geographical locations, differing opinions can "talk". Thanks, admin!
Oh, this is getting good. I wonder if Kate will have a manic tweeting day tomorrow?
Yay for the new staff member!! And another big thanks to ALL the "blog girls" for your time and help around these here parts!
Blowing In The Wind said... 40
Tweet -- who was the fan who kept asking Kate the same question over and over again, several times a day...something about Kate's favorite songs, her favorite drink, something about Scooby Doo, Collin dancing...
I can't remember her Twitter name and it's bothering me. Did she totally disappear?
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I can't remember that person's name either but know who you mean. He showed up the other day with a new name and another weird question but haven't seen him again. Guess he got bored.
I like Shawn's profile, too. He sounds so passionate about what he does. We need more advocates like him. He had two quotes, but they weren't platitudes or a trite retweet. He explained why he believes in them and how he has tried to live his life by them. He just sounds like a good guy and I'm glad that he has gone to the trouble of taking up for Jon in all this against what amounts to bullying and parental alienation. He is on the right side here and I have faith this is all going to work out.
Speaking of bullying, heard on the radio some parents have filed a bullying action in Texas because a high school team keeps winning games by 8 touchdowns. They are being laughed at around the country. This is where people have completely misunderstood bullying and completely distorted it to mean, you have a right to never, ever hear anything negative or have anything sad happen to you. It's just infuriating. The team is GOOD. We should be teaching our kids the solution to dealing with a good team is to figure out what you're doing that can be improved and work harder. And if that still doesn't beat them, to accept the loss with dignity. Period. Not to whine, complain and accuse them of BULLYING. I feel sorry for that team who is winning. Instead of being praised for it they are being treated like aggressors. Unbelievable.
Throwing another wrench in the "Clara" name discussion - they could possibly both have daughters named Clara.
I am one of 4 in my family (first cousins) with the same first name - named after my paternal grandmother. And one of 3 with same first and last names (before I was married). And we all live in the same city.
And the crappy thing, was because I was the first one, I was always referred to as "Big ________" when we spoke of each other - and still do! LOL!
Welcome new staff member! Thank you all for keeping this blog going. :)
Oh this is even crazier about this ex wife I know. So she gained a stepdaughter when she married her ex husband back in the day. Eventually they split but she decided to stay close with her ex-stepdaughter. Stepdaughter's bio mother remarried and had two more girls. Ex wife felt that those were her "daughter's" new siblings and should be welcomed just like any bio child. So now she is close to THEM too. She traveled with them out of the country, got one of them a job where she works, and they call her mom. Nuts. Works for them though.
Seems Shawn and Rachel haven't been married too long so Stacy is an ex I would guess. http://registry.theknot.com/rachel-bates-shawn-tuma-june-2011-tx/579198
Welcome to admin's new helper. Thanks to all of you for taking care of this blog so well.
I normally don't care for moles (real) but Admin's moles are A-ok !!
Firey Topaz @FireyTopaz1 13m
Update on what happened @ court today http://www.realitytvkids.com/2013/10/masterchef-junior.html?commentPage=3 … (comment #40) & Kate's lawyer went2 wrong courthouse! LOL @Kateplusmy8
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Welcome New Staffer! Thank you in advance for helping run this blog. We sometimes get a little frisky, but are pretty tame in general ;-)
So, Jon, Kate, Robert... they wouldn't know that they weren't allowed into the proceedings until the judge decides it on the spot?
I just wonder if they were told this was not open to them beforehand.
Razz not showing up at the right place is quite embarrassing. Mr. Tuma showing up there on time, from TX, reflects a professional who RESPECTS the court.
If the judge is asking "why" questions, well that's encouraging. That IS the question. It can 't be for money and I hope it can't be to see Jon in jail, so why?
Staying in the spotlight, prolonging the drama and keeping the pity train going seem likely.
Kate's manipulated the media SO successfully in the past. Remember RingGate? Poor, poor cheated upon Kate, wearing that ring for the sake of the children. THE CHILDREN!!
The tearless crying while the cameras were rolling, and the "Nobu, Nobu, I want Nobu" when they weren't...
The media knows that Kate's drama brings ratings. I think it's why she's given a pass by them time and time again. But I don't think judges will suffer fools on the tax payers dime, of which, about $.01102 is left after paying for the care of the tups for a year when they were born.
Enough is enough.
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And I love how Razamatazz got the wrong courthouse. I picture him showing up with his showgirls putting on his dog and pony show to an audience of confused faces at the wrong place. Jazz hands fail
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Here is some footage of Razzle Dazzle in court:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YW3MIixEps4&feature=youtube_gdata_player
If the judge is asking "why" questions, well that's encouraging. That IS the question. It can 't be for money and I hope it can't be to see Jon in jail, so why?
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I really like the fact that the judge was pressing about the why. What is the purpose of this suit. A good judge should always get the parties to ask why they are here and if this is worth it. They could save people thousands of dollars and a lot of time and stress. A good judge takes the moving party to task, if only to get them thinking. I've seen it done and I've seen a judge's guidance and input change a whole case. Our court system is overburdened, overworked and in many areas underpaid. Thrusting a lawsuit on all those good people that doesn't really have much of a purpose is a waste of everyone's time.
Lawsuits need to accomplish something. Moral victories are not something courts have traditionally encouraged. Perhaps T.V. has distorted what the legal system is for. It's really not here just to say na-na I won you lose yea for me moral victory! It is here to resolve real disputes that have real consequences and involve real issues and real dollars. It is hard to take this seriously when all of this apparently happened ages ago and only now, when her book comes out, does she suddenly take issue with it. I like what's happening here, what little I've heard.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YW3MIixEps4&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Now that was impressive. If only he did that at the right courthouse!
Welcome new pool girl. You behave your self with those pool boys!
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Ditto! Welcome! You have to watch out for those mowing boys, too! I hear they can get pretty darn frisky when they retire their mowers for the winter.
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@Kateplusmy8 would I be able to get a picture of u holding my book? :) would be so special! Email is in my book if u want!!! :)
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Oh, good gosh, Kate. Take a picture of you with this darn book and put this person out of her misery!
Give them the old flim-flam-flummox
Fool and fracture them
How can they hear the truth above the roar
(Roar, roar, roar!)
Throw them a fiction off a magel
They'll never know you're just a bagel
Razzle dazzle them, and they'll beg ya for more
Give 'em the old double-whammy
Daze and dizzy 'em
Back since the days of ol' Methusala
Everyone loves the big bamboozala
Give 'em the old three-ring-circus
Stun and stagger them
When your in trouble go into your dance
Though you are stiffer than a girder
They'll let you get away with murder
Razzle dazzle them and ya got a romance!!!
Admin (42)
Your synopsis was great, but it's just a teaser. I can't wait to find out more! Most importantly, what happens with the motion to dismiss. I'm guessing the judge wants to take some time to go through it, point-by-point before making a ruling. Is that how it works? And the fact that the judge is already having a hard time understanding what TFW hopes to get out of this seems to indicate that he (she?) realizes this may just be a frivolous attempt to "get" Jon. Lawsuits are not a means of revenge. Please, whoever the insider is, keep us posted!
I'm reading Shawn's brief now. It's even better than his first. He is so smart. I will post it in a moment.
He cites Ashcroft. I studied that case in law school. Go Shawn.
I'm guessing the judge wants to take some time to go through it, point-by-point before making a ruling. Is that how it works?
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It sounds to me like they are still in the briefing stage of a motion to dismiss. Shawn filed his motion to dismiss, Razzy amended his complaint (but as Shawn points out in his brief, did not "respond" to any of his points, an amendment is not a response), and now Shawn has filed a second motion to dismiss. Razzy will probably get another opportunity to respond to his second motion, and/or amend.
I think realistically this motion to dismiss is going to drag on for several more weeks and maybe even longer. I think Millicent said she saw a motion to dismiss drag out six months or more. Ditto.
"I really like the fact that the judge was pressing about the why. What is the purpose of this suit. A good judge should always get the parties to ask why they are here and if this is worth it. They could save people thousands of dollars and a lot of time and stress. A good judge takes the moving party to task, if only to get them thinking."
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Do we know the name of the judge?
Welcome new staffer and many thanks to all for keeping the conversation going peaceably.
I'm smiling like a cat in the window thinking about Razzamatazz showing up at the wrong courthouse in the wrong city. To boot, he wasn't there to explain his amended complaint to the judge and damages being sought. Maybe he got the location wrong "accidentally on purpose" so he didn't have to explain that mess.
Now that was impressive. If only he did that at the right courthouse!
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I can just see him tap dancing up the wrong courthouse steps. Too funny.
It amazes me the interest thiis saga brings. I think what blows my mind is how ANYONE thinks TFW is a good mom? She stands for all what we believe is what a mom should NOT be. People have been against her ways for years. Doesn't she get it? I do hope she gets stopped in her tracks and feels the humility and shame she thrust on her children.
Why would soooo many people invest their time and energy to bring her wrongs to light? This ship needs to be rightened. And with the smarts / wits/ and hearts of the THRUTHERS it will.
Welcome to the new pool girl! And many thanks to the current pool girls she'll be assisting. And to any moles for their anonymous sleuthing. Oh, and to Admin, for making this such an interesting watering hole!
A word has been used here a couple of times, and it's the word I think best describes what I'm "waiting for" in this whole shebang: "comeuppance." Something that will take TFW down a peg, or two, or twelve. To say that she's "teflon" doesn't begin to encompass the way she's gotten out of one sticky mess after another. We've all waited and watched for years, and here we all still are...scratching our heads.
I think that's what's charging the blog today -- will today be the day TFW gets her comeuppance? I'm not interested in seeing her out on the street, or in any physical pain, and I'd hate for those poor children
to suffer any more than they already have. But, boy howdy, how many "Get Out Of Jail Free" cards can one woman be holding? Maybe she's been hiding them in the good bra.
TFW yes we did know the judge, I can't remember the name now but it was in another thread. I remember seeing that this judge had I believe been a public defender, which is really good. Shows he understands all sides. I had a good feeling about him when I saw that, but that is just based on past experience. Other than that, there wasn't much out there about him.
I'm smiling like a cat in the window thinking about Razzamatazz showing up at the wrong courthouse in the wrong city.
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How could he have gone to the wrong courthouse? My word! If this is true, I bet TFW is hopping mad.
I can just see him tap dancing up the wrong courthouse steps. Too funny.
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I know, I crack myself up. I picture him doing the entire Richard Gere number with all the girls and the feathers and then at the end the judge bangs his gavel and says counselor, I'm afraid you've got the wrong courthouse. You're looking for that little building over yonder in Reading, down that road.
How could he have gone to the wrong courthouse? My word!
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I know. I can honestly say I've never heard of this happening. How hard is it to look at your paperwork and read it? The courthouse will be right there at the top, along with the room number and judge, usually to the right in that box or just below. Not rocket science. Amazing he managed to pass the Bar. How did he even find the right room to sit for the test? Surprised he didn't show up at some other convention center and just started writing away about torts and corporations not worried that no one else was there.
Welcome to the new staff person! You'll have your work cut out for you, but you can get into mischief with the pool boys too, so enjoy yourself!
Interesting stories about blended, extended families. I can add another. A young friend of mine recently remarried. She was a widow with a 5 year old daughter and married a widower with 2 children. His late wife's parents have pretty much adopted her. They refer to her daughter as their grandchild and introduce her as their DIL. They refer to him as their son. When she asked about it, they told her that love doesn't stop when someone dies and that if hearts aren't big enough to welcome new family, then they aren't worth having. Her parents are dead and her former inlaws are pills, so she's really loving the family and togetherness and acceptance.
Curious-- IF Razzle went to the wrong courthouse how was the judge even able to question him? Or did he make it in time for their appearance?
I bet Kate was screeching and stomping her feet over that too.
Does the judge now have to take some time to figure out whether to dismiss or move the case on to trial?
TFW is now farting rainbows on twitter. Classic deflection technique.
I know, I crack myself up. I picture him doing the entire Richard Gere number with all the girls and the feathers and then at the end the judge bangs his gavel and says counselor, I'm afraid you've got the wrong courthouse. You're looking for that little building over yonder in Reading, down that road.
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Hahahahahaha. We didn't know how absolutely perfect that was for him until today.
Someone should tell the Holly person not to publish her e-mail address on Twitter. I know they basically ignore her, but I don't think she realizes that this isn't the best thing to do.
BTW, unless he came back for this, Mr. Randazza is not even in the country. He is in Italy (and has been since before this case was filed) taking some sort of law course in Torino, and he is scheduled to be there into December. Thus, everything happening on the ground here, despite the inclusion of Randazza's name (and, no doubt, his "expertise") on every filing, has been shepherded by the rookie local zoning guy, Rushie. As far as I can see on the docket to date, Randazza hasn't even filed a pro hac vice yet, let alone been approved.
I very much doubt it was Randazza who got lost on the way to court today. I'd say the joke is on Kate here, and it couldn't happen to a more deserving party. I just hope it hasn't cost the kids too much.
And the fact that the judge is already having a hard time understanding what TFW hopes to get out of this seems to indicate that he (she?) realizes this may just be a frivolous attempt to "get" Jon.
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I can hear the Judge saying, "WTF, TFW?"
Tweet-le -- that is a good one!
Torino.....? Omg I was just there. I could have asked him to join me for a drink! Haha. Going anonymous this time.
BTW, unless he came back for this, Mr. Randazza is not even in the country. He is in Italy (and has been since before this case was filed) taking some sort of law course in Torino, and he is scheduled to be there into December.
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So it was Kate's PA zoning attorney who went to the wrong courthouse? For some reason I find that even funnier.
I wonder if Kate knew that her lawyer was going to be out of the country for an extended period of time and would not appear in person for the court date.
Seems odd.
Gosselin fodderdrama has turned into some TV and rag site time for the lawyers in the past.
A word has been used here a couple of times, and it's the word I think best describes what I'm "waiting for" in this whole shebang: "comeuppance." Something that will take TFW down a peg, or two, or twelve.
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EIGHT pegs, don't you know? Eight!
I would also like to welcome the new staffer. Thanks to Admin and her wonderful staff who keep this blog running. I'll buy the first round of Rumspringas for all!!
So, Kate's lawyer is out of town for her court date. Is that normal admin? Wouldn't they try to get a delay? So the Rushdie guy who is begging for clients was the one who went to the wrong courthouse? Wow...
So how much is Kate paying her attorney (which one was it?) to go to the wrong location of the courthouse? Did he, in fact, show up at all?
Will TFW fire her lawyers because they 'don't know how to help her'?
I wonder if TFW is shocked at how much work has to go into lawsuits. For years, her standard response to anyone who annoyed her was to ask TLC's legal, "Can we sue?" To her, it was an easy way to put people in their place. Now she realized that suing someone doesn't mean you write out your grievances and then show up in front of Judge Judy (just like on TV!) and tell the judge that the other person is mean, and within 30 minutes everything is wrapped up and you win. No, there are hearings and responses and discovery and motions and briefs. This is not easy like she thought. This is not effortless revenge like she thought. She doesn't automatically win just because she sued (like she thought). The judge is already questioning he motives and half of her claims have already been tossed. She will, most likely, fail--just the latest in a long string of failures. I think this is a good lesson for her. Maybe now she will learn to work though her problems instead of instantly thinking, "I'll just sue!" Coping mechanisms are a good thing, TFW.
I thought I had heard Razzmatazz was out of the country for an extended period, so I wondered earlier if this was the local attorney who went to the wrong courthouse. Which is almost even sadder. smh and lol
So it was Kate's PA zoning attorney who went to the wrong courthouse? For some reason I find that even funnier.
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Hilarious if it's true. He got the wrong zone!
Can we expect TFW to sue Randazza' s office now?
Maybe Kate needs to grift for a new lawyer. One who can actually find the courthouse.
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Will TFW fire her lawyers because they 'don't know how to help her'?
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Will TFW fire her lawyers because they "don't know WHERE to help her"?
Welcome to the new staffer. Admin., much thanks for running such a great blog. Also, thanks to the insightful and smart ladies who comment here. I find myself constantly learning new things from all of you.
TFW still sucks.
World Series starts tomorrow. Woo Hoo. GO RED SOX!
I can hear the Judge saying, "WTF, TFW?"
You guys are hysterical!
Welcome to the new pool girl!!
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Ingrid said... 93
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As to whoever above said she is learning how much work goes into this I bet she is leaving it all to the lawyers since she is good at leaving any other work to her employers and/or fans to do for her. We have seen how she doesn't even work hard at promoting herself. ( cuz she is cooking 80% of the time)
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Ingrid said... 93
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LOL! Brilliant.
Me too! I want to welcome the new pool girl. Also many thanks to Admin & her staff for running such a great site.
One part of me wants TFW to hurry up & get what's coming to her, but then I wonder what will happen to 15 Minutes if that day ever arrives. I'd miss all the funny & informative posters here if it was to fade out.
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Ingrid said... 93
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LOL! Brilliant.
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Best comment of the week so far!
Hello to the new pool girl!
May you have the serenity to delete sheeple you cannot change, the courage to change the sheeple you can and the wisdom to know the difference :o)
So it was Kate's PA zoning attorney who went to the wrong courthouse? For some reason I find that even funnier.
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Me too. He sent the obligatory inept sidekick.
Not to be outdone, Razmatazz will show up with Bullyville, 3 Strippers, and a Showgirl :-)
ROFLMAO! LOL
I think this is a good lesson for her.
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I've had the same thought. On the one hand I wish it could just go away so Jon and the kids could go on with their lives. On the other hand, it might be best for her to go through a very long and drawn out lawsuit. Watch the bills pile up, watch the stress get worse with each hearing, watch basic things like motions to dismiss take ages upon ages to even get an answer, go through DISCOVERY. Make her go through what a real lawsuit really is. She started it. Now she has to see it through. I really don't think she will ever learn to stop pulling this crap unless she learns the hard way.
I completely understand why LaFair decided to back away from her lawsuit and would never begrudge her that choice. But I'm afraid all it did was reenforce to Kate as you said, she can just sign some paperwork go to court and win and it's done. She got cocky and invincible. Well, it's not going to work that way this time. In fact she could be a real smack down for this and it would be about time it came.
In which courthouse did Kate's attorney show up? Philadelphia?
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 107
So it was Kate's PA zoning attorney who went to the wrong courthouse? For some reason I find that even funnier.
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Me too. He sent the obligatory inept sidekick.
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Hm, I picture a sidekick who is only allowed to keep his one bullet in his pocket.
Me too. He sent the obligatory inept sidekick.
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I'm picturing Jerry Lewis in "The Bellboy."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XK_jXwP8M_s
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 74
TFW yes we did know the judge, I can't remember the name now but it was in another thread.
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I went back and checked the old threads, and found this comment:
Pennsylvania Eastern District Court
Case No. 5:2013cv04989
Presiding Judge Jefrey L Schmehl
Cause: 18:1030 The Computer Fraud and Abuse Act
And according to the directory on the court website, he is located in Reading:
JEFFREY L. SCHMEHL The Madison Building, Suite 401 400 Washington Street Reading, PA 19601
https://www.paed.uscourts.gov/us14001.asp
The bumbling sidekick. LOL. I can't imagine that phone call to Italy when it's morning in Europe in a few hours is going to go that well. So how did it go how did it go??
WHAT? Why, I oughta!!
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 109
''...On the other hand, it might be best for her to go through a very long and drawn out lawsuit. Watch the bills pile up, watch the stress get worse with each hearing, watch basic things like motions to dismiss take ages upon ages to even get an answer, go through DISCOVERY. Make her go through what a real lawsuit really is.''
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Yes. Let TFW get just a tiny glimmer of what Jon endured at her hands! The only problem is that she'll use every penny of Jon's children's money she can get her hands on. Unlike Jon, who was willing to walk away from everything, get on with his life, and be happy with his cabin in the woods and the love of his children, TFW will eat herself inside out with hatred and unhappiness. But, as you said...she started it!
If this should end up going to trial, wouldn't the book be brought in as evidence, and if a jury trial, wouldn't the jury have to be provided with copies of the book?
Kate may just end promoting Robert's book more than she did her own.
Oh, the irony!!
And the fact that the judge is already having a hard time understanding what TFW hopes to get out of this seems to indicate that he (she?) realizes this may just be a frivolous attempt to "get" Jon.
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I can hear the Judge saying, "WTF, TFW?"
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I'm so glad to learn that even a JUDGE can't figure out what the heck Confused Barbie wants! I read and re-read her blog where she tries to explain her motives and every single time, all I get is a headache. It. Doesn't. Mean. Anything. Pure genuine mind fart. Like this poor girl:
http://youtu.be/lj3iNxZ8Dww
Oh, and a big warm welcome to the new Pool Girl!
And according to the directory on the court website, he is located in Reading:
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That mighta been your first clue what court house to go to.
Yes my memory was correct, Jefrey L Schmehl has been a public defender. As well as a DA. I'm telling you these are the best judges. To have argued a case from all sides of the coin and understand where people and attorneys are coming from on all sides is invaluable as a judge. He's on the younger side for a judge, too. Only 57. He's not halfway out the door to retirement and phoning it in as some older judges can get.
Hm, I picture a sidekick who is only allowed to keep his one bullet in his pocket.
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Barney Rushie. That might be my new name for him. Kinda bumbling'
but with lots of good intentions.
Exactly. And this is what we mean by alternate realities. Her reality is not normal. Her reality is not rational or reasonable. It is not how most people see the world. How she sees this situation is not how it really is. In this respect I almost feel sorry for her. I'm not convinced she can help how she perceives the world. If in her head this is her world, can she really help it if that's not how everyone else sees things?
What she sees as a "dangerous" man who has ruined her and is hacking her as skilled as the best CIA agent is not what most people see. Most people see an affable slightly pudgy 30-something who loves his kids and his job and runs his mouth too much. She is asking us to see a demon--and for most people, including apparently this judge, it's just not rational. It's very important to her that she prove her version of events from four years ago is right and sanctioned by a judge, when for most people they have long moved on from anything that happened so long ago. I like the judge's head scratching. Scratch away, that's how lawsuits get dismissed.
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Hm, I picture a sidekick who is only allowed to keep his one bullet in his pocket.
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Barney Rushie. That might be my new name for him. Kinda bumbling'
but with lots of good intentions.
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Good one! LOL
I'm so glad to learn that even a JUDGE can't figure out what the heck Confused Barbie wants! I read and re-read her blog where she tries to explain her motives and every single time, all I get is a headache. It. Doesn't. Mean. Anything. Pure genuine mind fart. Like this poor girl:
http://youtu.be/lj3iNxZ8Dww
Oh, and a big warm welcome to the new Pool Girl!
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That video is painful to watch. LOL
Nicole Gould @nicolergould 3h
@Kateplusmy8 would I be able to get a picture of u holding my book? :) would be so special! Email is in my book if u want!!! :)
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No response from Kate. I'm with Kate on this one. Apparently this fan can't figure this out. Kate hasn't read the book. Why would she take a picture of herself holding up the book? She knows nothing about the contents. A well-known person does not want himself or herself associated with a book that he or she hasn't read. Even if Kate has read the book, you just don't let someone use you for publicity. Who knows to what sites this person would e-mail the photo?
Welcome new pool girl, and thank you for diving in! And thanks to the other pool persons and admin for keeping this blog afloat!
Everything good always happens when I am gone!
Congrats to the new pool girl, and also a thanks to Admin. for this awesome place we can come to, go OT, talk about whatever we want to, so many interesting women here. Wow, so much to laugh at tonight! Hope TFW gets all that she deserves! Love her Bumbling Barney Lawyer, who doesn't know where to help her! HaHaHa:)
Ha, ha, ha! I keep picturing Kate's lawyers as Cruella De Vil's bumbling sidekicks, Horace and Jasper, from 101 Dalmations, and this classic exchange:
Cruella De Vil: Congratulations. You three have just won the Gold, Silver and Bronze in the Morons Olympics!
Horace: Who...who won the gold?
One part of me wants TFW to hurry up & get what's coming to her, but then I wonder what will happen to 15 Minutes if that day ever arrives. I'd miss all the funny & informative posters here if it was to fade out.
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Oh, we would probably be sitting around in our muumuus and crocs, discussing hemorrhoids and smoking cigars, rumspringas freely flowing, running to the bathroom every five minutes, and wondering why we are talking to ourselves.
alas, and it was said years and years ago on this very blog..you just can not make this stuff up.
You know admin and others, I was thinking about JG while reading this blog tonight, and about this amazing, truly amazing attorney he has, and how I have no doubt that tfw will LOSE this frivolous lawsuit, regardless of how or when.
Kate, you really need to think about what you are doing. Do you really want to continue with this suit? From the looks of things, you are off to a really bad start with your own attorney not attending on your behalf. No offense, but 2nd best won't do with a high profile case like this one, with one of the top leading attorneys in the country on the other side.
Judge will either throw it out, or it will be cut short if it goes to court, or if a jury is drawn, it will be not guilty on on all counts. It's just not going to happen for TFW this time.
And I am wondering if his Mom (JG) did not cash in her very last CD's to pay for this mess. And if his family had to chip in too. And if she did have to give up her retirement, then just g-d bless her.
I just think she deserves better than what she had received since her husband passed away.
Mr. Tuma, thank you for coming to PA, personally today. And not sending a Barney Fite in your place. You said yes to this case, and it was the best yes ever. You did good. I will never forget how I threw up my hands and came out of my chair when it was announced you were JG attorney. I don't know JG or any of these people, but I know right from wrong! You were the perfect attorney for this case.
Welcome To Admin's Assistant: Pool Girl. Remember to stay in the shallow end and don't let the sharks intimidate you when they swim by the blog..
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So, when are they back in the court room?
Maybe he got the location wrong "accidentally on purpose" so he didn't have to explain that mess.
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No way an attorney would miss a meeting with a Judge, unless they wanted to lose. IMHO.
Everyone at 15minutes Central Control gets a high-5 from fidosmommy!
Do you ever go under the Cone of Silence there at Control?
Do you think this could be her wake-up call?
She needs to understand that those people in her life whom she thinks she has control of will eventually see what she does to them. They WILL get out from under that powerful narcissistic spell she has over them IF they can detach themselves from her like Jon did.
Her kids will do the same if she's not careful and she'll have absolutely no one left in her life. Steve will move on too. She needs to do some really deep introspective examining here and find out if that's what she really wants. Or is she selfish enough not to give a damn about anything except 'winning'?
After this mess is over, J&K need to take a long, very long sabbatical from each other on any contact, stay off TV, and out of any interviews, and figure something else out on the custody arrangements.
Maybe have the nanny to met John and the kids to drop/pick up at the police station, which many, many couples do these days, to avoid any contact with each other at all. There needs to be a Guardian for the children, just to do the communication between the parents.
Otherwise, she will never stop. She just won't. She will break the Gosselin Family, kids too, down to their underwear if the nonsense is not stopped.
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That video is painful to watch. LOL
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I'll say. LOL is right! What the hell is she talki...South Africa?
Who put something in my drink? What's she saying? I...
How many paps were there admin? Did you sit next to Harvey, with TMZ, or Katie C, tfw BFF, or did you see Nancy Grace? Was court tv there?
Did you have to fight your way into the courthouse? Wow, it must have been a mad house since tfw is the so famous mother of 8, count em, 8 kids form Pa.
Waste of time money for the courts, and the taxpayers, to JG, herself, and most of all, for her kids!
#stupidlawsuits
I wish I were wrong in my feelings with TFW. But when you prove day in and day out all my and other people perceptions NOT misconceptions, well ... What do you have? A blog where people come together with the same mind-set to decipher your daily doings and maybe just maybe today will be the day you change and accept your wrongs. Well another day has gone by... See everyone tomorrow.
Well, Miss So. Carolina got a chance to redeem herself on national tv. Here she is on the Today Show answering the exact same question
www.youtube.com/watch?v=iojhIL5bxWE
AuntieAnn said... 131
''Do you think this could be her wake-up call?
She needs to understand that those people in her life whom she thinks she has control of will eventually see what she does to them.''
''.......She needs to do some really deep introspective examining here and find out if that's what she really wants. Or is she selfish enough not to give a damn about anything except 'winning'?''
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I don't think that TFW will ever understand that Jon is not the only one in her life that will see what she has done to them. I don't think that she actually believes that she STILL can't control Jon. She told Jon's children that ''I'm in control and that is never going to change.'' She really believes that!
I don't think she is intellectually capable of any sort of deep introspective thinking to figure out what she wants. She wants what she wants because she is narcissistic and believes that she should get what she wants because she wants it. I really think it is as simple (and sad) as that.
I filed (and won) a lawsuit that didn't win me a lot of bucks, but at the end of it the judge said this lawsuit was a wake-up call for him that probate court needed to do its job better and not allow executors to go without ANY kind of accounting for 3 years. This executor had robbed my sister's estate blind and even though the law calls for scheduled reviews before a judge, it was never done. Had the court done its job, this would have never happened. So, some schmuck down the road might benefit and demand periodic formal accounting. If so, that's good. Maybe some good higher than money and greed can come out of TFW' s lawsuit too.
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Excellent post!!
Even if she doesn't learn a thing from this at least it can be said every opportunity was made to try to get through to her. There will be no wondering how things might have been better had someone stood up to her. Thanks Shawn and Martin.
"Shawn Tuma is brilliant. His newest motion to dismiss is a great read. It was a pleasure meeting him today. So full of energy. Kate, Jon and Robert were not permitted in the meeting. It was just for the judge and lawyers. Unfortunately but amusingly, Kate's lawyer went to the Philadelphia court house instead of Reading and missed the proceedings. Oops. The report I got was that the judge is having a difficult time in understanding what Kate could possibly gain by this lawsuit except to give further publicity to the book. Now we wait some more."
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I read some on here commenting that TFW was using this book to bring attention to HER book. I read this as "Lady, Mr. Hoffman's book is going to be the New York (sic) Most Talked About Book if you proceed. You are simply creating interest for a widening audience to discover what's in there that you don't want anyone to know about."
I'm going back to another topic here: In regards to TFW having 50 people over for the holidays...I think she was talking about when the kids are grown and married and have kids of their own, there may be close to 50 people there. She did mention "the future" not this year. Yeah, if she thinks they'll all come back willingly with their happy spouses and perfect children, she really does live in dreamland.
Mary P.
All the excitement happens after my bedtime!
So the lawyer from PA couldn't make it to the correct courthouse, but the lawyer from TX could? IMO, that (and the poorly written court documents) speaks volumes about how seriously her lawyers are taking this suit. I still believe they jumped aboard thinking they'd get some great publicity. Oops.
I do kind of feel for the guy though. I bet he caught an earful of WOS screeching yesterday!
Welcome new pool girl! Many thanks admin to you and the pool girls and cabana boys, for maintaining such a lovely relaxing and interesting oasis on the interwebs! TFMJG is essentially boring, but all the posters here are interesting! I hang around for all the discussion of recipes, TV shows, grandchildren, documentaries, gardening, pets, and health issues too! When TFMJG is no longer getting covers on any magazines, I will still be coming by to share stories of gallstones and mammy grams and broken toes, feet, elbows, and other parts of the anatomy.
They WILL get out from under that powerful narcissistic spell she has over them IF they can detach themselves from her like Jon did.
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Some will, some wont't. Some will hate her, some will love her and BECOME her. Jon detached himself, but he's even more fortunate than those kids, he wasn't raised by a monster.
I really don't think she will ever learn to stop pulling this crap unless she learns the hard way.
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Exactly Admin. You HAVE to put a narcissist in their place in order for the bullying, extortion, life sucking to stop. It's escalated to this level because of her "uniqueness" (barf) She won't "learn" any lesson like we all would. She will be too scared to ever again try something so outlandish. I forsee her becoming more of a recluse than she already is. More paranoia will set in, but she won't act on any revenge "in public".I see more of a mental breakdown behind closed doors and I REALLY fear for those poor kids. The small grasp she has left on "reality" will disappear after all this is done.
The platitudes runeth amok already this morning, and we know what that means. Love this diddy:
Great Minds Quotes @GreatestQuotes 1h
"A ship is safe in harbour, but that's not what ships are for." - William Shedd
Retweeted by Kate Gosselin
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So..... Pearl HARBOR? USS Cole?
Ships in harbors are sitting ducks, so there's that.
Here's a thought, while we're thinking nautical thoughts- I can't wait until this lawsuit's ship has sailed and Kate's battleship is sunk.
Retweet away!
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Looks like Milo, like her Kate, puts herself first, even if it's grammatically incorrect:
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I'm really far behind and will probably never catch up reading, but I had to comment on this. I've noticed Milo doing the "me and" thing too. Young people have to learn not to do this, but by Milo's age, she should be able to put herself second. It's one time good grammar is also just polite.
I have a joke with my kids to help them remember. When they say something like, "Me and Kyle are leaving." I say, "Mean Kyle? I didn't know Kyle was mean!"
So if Milo says, "Me and Kate..." heh heh.
I come here a lot but don't post that much. I just love reading all of the clever comments. It is a diversion to say the least.
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I have a joke with my kids to help them remember. When they say something like, "Me and Kyle are leaving." I say, "Mean Kyle? I didn't know Kyle was mean!"
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That's a good exercise for learning it's not Me and X, it's X and I.
I still separate the subjects in my head and then proceed with the sentence, in my head, to see if it agrees.
TFW tweets it is hard to keep track of "who is where anymore." If I had twitter I would respond....."Like your attorney?!"
I think Milo's #friendswithbenefits tweet is really rubbing salt in Kate's lonely wounds. Kate would love nothing more than to have a partner. Well, that AND fast forwarding those new teens of hers past the "unlovable" years.
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Brilliant! :)
So then, that "ducks in a row" picture was not accurate?
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TFW tweets it is hard to keep track of "who is where anymore." If I had twitter I would respond....."Like your attorney?!"
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handinhand said... 153
I think Milo's #friendswithbenefits tweet is really rubbing salt in Kate's lonely wounds.
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Milo picks the stupidest things to praise TFW about. How long until she'll be writing, "I so admire you, Kate, for choosing NOT to become a serial killer/arsonist/bank robber? I am certain that some day, years from now, when TFW has faded completely into obscurity, Milo will be tweeting that she admires her for puting the kids first and choosing not to re-enter show biz. (As if there is anything in the world TFW wants more than to be in show business). Or when the kids come of age and it is publicly disclosed that there's no money left for them to go to college because TFW spent it all , Milo will praise her for making the kids learn financial responsibility by paying for their own college. Wait for it, it's coming.
TFW hyperbole, its like having a rash reading TFW tweets.
Do parents use the word "logistics" to explain driving children to activities?
From freedictionary.com
Logistics - "The aspect of military operations that deals with the procurement, distribution, maintenance, and replacement of materiel and personnel."
I've heard freight carriers use the term, not parents.
Is there then a "manifest" for the BBB?
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 14h
@Kateplusmy8 I so admire& respect U 4making ur kids ur priority N Life and that U have chosen NOT 2live the #FriendsWithBenefits lifestyle!
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Just when I think Milo can't astound me.
Is Milo referring to Skeeve? Is Milo dreaming about being that friend with benefits? Is Milo fishing? Is Milo heading off something that is going to come out about WOS? Is Milo taking yet another dig at Jon?Oh the questions.
Who in their right mind .... oh, forget it.
I want to hear the fat lady sing, before I get happy about this trial. We have been fooled before, when we thought TFW was down and out.
Do parents use the word "logistics" to explain driving children to activities?
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Guess I'm odd, but yes, I do. Other parents and I have discussed the "logistics" of chauffeuring kids around to activities. It is not exclusive to military operations, but also applies to the things that are necessary to execute an event or activity. The word often comes up when commiserating with parents about how everything is going to be accomplished while maintaining whatever sanity we have left.
I think Milo's #friendswithbenefits tweet is really rubbing salt in Kate's lonely wounds.
Exactly. It's like a slap in the face, telling her that she's a stay-at-home mom rather than going for the celebrity lifestyle. Any normal mom wouldn't mind hearing that, but for Kate, it's just a reminder that she's no longer the "star" she once was. That is something that Kate does not want to hear.
Sandi sent this picture to kate and kate twitted it, YESTERDAY.
Kate GosselinVerified account@Kateplusmy8
GM! I had 2 show u this photo! (Thx @SandieBellz) It's my LIFE and I love it! Got all my ducks(Gosselins) in a row! pic.twitter.com/BCAcz1fIx1
That does says it all. This is going to bite her pretty bad.
For a while, I was able to tweet to kate, then she blocked me. Now all of a sudden, I have been able to send tweets to her. But when I really wanted her to see a tweet from me, I would send it to Milo and put kates twitter on it. hahaha
TFW has such an odd following on twitter. That Sandiebelz lady is a wacko in my opinion and I can't understand why TFW would retweet something from her. And that whole "ducks in a row" thing is so lame.
Marie
TFW tweets it is hard to keep track of "who is where anymore." If I had twitter I would respond....."Like your attorney?!"
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Has it been confirmed that he went to the wrong courthouse, or is it a rumor? First someone assumed it was Razzy, then no, Razzy is doing his dance somewhere in Europe. Then it was said it was sidekick Barny Rush who got lost. Who first reported this, and how is it known? Where did he go -- to Philly, and did he ever make it to the correct location?
Has it been confirmed that he went to the wrong courthouse, or is it a rumor?
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A person who was actually sitting right there told me this yesterday. They never said Razzy was the one who didn't show. Just Kate's "attorney." I think we were mostly just joking about the image of Jazz Hands dancing on the wrong courthouse steps. It's clear he's in Italy. You are free to call it a rumor. This person has always told me the truth, however. They are not anonymous to me.
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