Tuesday, November 19, 2013

Breaking news: Kate drops lawsuit against Jon

Kate stipulates it will be dropped with prejudice. The portion of the suit against Robert Hoffman and the John and Jane Does remains.

Thank you Shawn Tuma and congratulations.

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IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT FOR THE

EASTERN DISTRICT OF PENNSYLVANIA

KATE GOSSELIN,

 Plaintiff,

JONATHAN K. GOSSELIN, ROBERT

HOFFMAN, and JOHN AND JANE DOES

 Defendants.

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 CIVIL ACTION

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 NO.: 13:4989

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JOINT MOTION TO DISMISS WITH PREJUDICE

Plaintiff Kate Gosselin, by and through her attorney, A. Jordan Rushie, and Defendant

Jonathan K. Gosselin, by and through his attorneys, BrittonTuma and Orwig Law Offices, files

this Joint Motion to Dismiss with Prejudice pursuant to Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 41(a)

and (c) and in support thereof, state as follows:

Plaintiff Kate Gosselin agrees to dismiss with prejudice all claims and potential claims

that she has or may have against Defendant Jonathan K. Gosselin that were or could have been

asserted in this case.

By this motion, Plaintiff Kate Gosselin is not dismissing her claims against any

Defendant other than Defendant Jonathan K. Gosselin.

Defendant Jonathan K. Gosselin agrees to dismiss with prejudice all counterclaims or

potential counterclaims that he has or may have against Plaintiff Kate Gosselin that were or

could have been asserted in this case.

Dismissal with prejudice of the claims and/or counterclaims between Plaintiff Kate

Gosselin and Defendant Jonathan K. Gosselin is appropriate pursuant to Federal Rule of Civil

Procedure 41(a) and (c).

JOINT MOTIONTODISMISSWITHPREJUDICE PAGE 1

Case 5:13-cv-04989-JLS Document 18 Filed 11/19/13 Page 2 of 2

WHEREFORE, Plaintiff Kate Gosselin and Defendant Jonathan K. Gosselin agree that

an order dismissing the asserted and potential claims and counterclaims between them with

prejudice is appropriate and respectfully request that the Court enter such order.

 Respectfully submitted,



Dated: November 19, 2013

 2424 E York Street, Suite 316





 Shawn E. Tuma



/s/ A. Jordan Rushie

Philadelphia, PA 19125

p. 215.385.5291

Attorney for Kate Gosselin





/s/ Shawn E. Tuma

BrittonTuma

7161 Bishop Road, Suite 220

Plano, Texas 75024

d. 469.635.1335

f. 972.767.3181

e. stuma@brittontuma.com



 Richard L. Orwig (Associate Counsel)

Orwig Law Offices

2213 Quarry Dr., Suite B001

West Lawn, PA 19609

p. 610.898.9880

f. 610.898.1323

e. rlorwig@orwiglaw.com

 Attorneys for Jonathan K. Gosselin

 CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE



The undersigned hereby certifies that a true and correct copy of the foregoing has been served

via ECF upon all counsel of record in the above-styled civil action on November 19, 2013.

 /s/ Shawn E. Tuma

 Shawn E. Tuma

JOINT MOTIONTODISMISSWITHPREJUDICE PAGE 2

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Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 1

I can't even imagine the drama her attorneys went through urging her to drop that. I wonder what changed her mind. Someone else here had it right that dropping this really was her only play. It's not the best outcome because now it just looks like she was just hitting below the belt without any merits and hoping he would cave, but it's better to get out now rather than later. What a mess BV got her into. She's out how many dollars now with this nonsense suit that is now tossed out with her blessing? She must be fuming.

PoorHoffman said... 2

I think Jon gave Kate some evidence on Hoffman.

I loathe this "woman" and "her" entire brand! said... 3

I'm sure Khate is fuming and that's why the suit is still against Robert Hoffman and the Jane and John Does- SOMEONE HAS TO PAY!

Over And Out said... 4

The "with prejudice" is really going to throw the sheeple. I can just imagine what they'll come up with trying to figure out what it means! I think they are still trying to figure out if Kate's lawsuit against Jon and Robert and the Does is the class action lawsuit that they are filing against the haters,

Will Milo find her way out of the pouting mode?

PatK said... 5

As I posted in the other thread, I hope Robert's attorney can come through for him now.

Kate looks like the fool now and so do her most outspoken twitter fans. Now I guess they'll just have to continue bashing Jon for having a girlfriend. Oh, the horror!

PatK said... 6

PoorHoffman said... 2
I think Jon gave Kate some evidence on Hoffman.

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I doubt there was any to give.

Angie said... 7

ok, what does 'with prejudice' mean?
the sheep will spin it that WOS decided it was in the best interest of the kids....
blech.

Mel said... 8

PoorHoffman said... 2
I think Jon gave Kate some evidence on Hoffman.


I'm concerned about that, too....that somehow a deal was made to absolve Jon in exchange for a way to beat up someone else.

Kinda like how the TLC deal was made. There was something weird about that, too.

localyocul said... 9

But but what happened to Sadly, this is where the investigation led me. I will not change course because it led to Jon, it must be done for the safety of the children."

So what does this lead to for Robert? If the claim was they conspired and she dropped claims against Jon, what does that lead to that she thinks Robert did? Stole the harddrives himself ? (Not from the trash because that's not stealing). She still doesn't allege libel does she?

FYI said... 10

If she dropped all the complaints against Jon, what is left for her to go after Robert and the Does for? The only thing I can think of is Invasion of Privacy. The Civil Conspiracy and Concerted Tortious Action would have to involve finding out and naming who the Does are, wouldn't it? Especially, since Jon would no longer be part of that. You can't have a conspiracy with only one person (Robert) involved, and how would they go about proving it?

Sad but true said... 11

What does she have against Hoffman without Jon? If there was a "conspiracy" that they both benefited from financially (according to her), JON was the one who had access, not Hoffman. At the end of the day, it's clear to me this was all a big publicity stunt to publicize her stupid cookbook and delay Hoffman's book for as long as possible. That's it.

She's so done now, it's not even funny. Who would ever hire her again after this stunt?

kids first said... 12

I just hope that there is not more to this than we know yet. For instance, did John agree to something if she drops the suit?

Angie said... 13

Robert is the last person standing in WOS's way. I hope hope hope (!) that Robert was telling the TRUTH about finding her journal in the trash.

I also hope he has a good atty.

localyocul said... 14

And the scrambling has begun..TFW's bullyville wannabe fans DMing bullyvilles thugs

Dream lover ‏@luvinglife1979 4m
@9riest DM

localyocul said... 15

PoorHoffman said... 2
I think Jon gave Kate some evidence on Hoffman

(((((((((((

Evidence of what, though? He says he took it from the trash? Unless Jon can show Robert altered it somehow, but did TFW allege that?

FYI said... 16

I wonder how ROL is going to spin this news to Kate's advantage. Is she going to be giving them a statement that she did it for her children's sake? You know she will try to spin it to make herself look good. I can hear it now-----"After much consideration, I have decided that the lawsuit I filed against Jon was detrimental to the well-being of my children, blah, blah, blah".

Anyone want to take bets?

reader said... 17

I am predicting the entire case will be dismissed, and probably not too long after this joint motion is granted. The case has no legs.

Tucker's Mom said... 18

I hope the "safety and future" of the kids is not in jeopardy, what now with Kate dropping the lawsuit.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 19

For once I wish she would just be honest. Look I filed this to try to bully and intimidate Jon in the hopes that he would eventually cave in lose everything and at some point hopefully sign away his parental rights. I did not expect the royal ass kicking that IT IS NOT A TUMA gave me and as a result I ran away like a sobbing little girl who lost her teddy because at the end of the day most bullies are COWARDS. Just own it.

Somewhere In Time said... 20

This is really going to pi$$ off the person who wants Kate to put a nail in the coffin of her ex from hell. Majorly.

localyocul said... 21

When will all these motions be heard? Since Hoffman's attny piggybacked onto the first MTD I wonder if this will make it more likely the judge will just throw it out?

Unknown said... 22

PoorHoffman said... 2
''I think Jon gave Kate some evidence on Hoffman.''
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I think that Robert has more than enough evidence against TFMJG without any ''evidence'' from Jon. I think that maybe someone is hoping that somehow WOS will skate through this mess. I think that her biggest mistake is to continue with the lawsuit against Robert, when he has CLEARLY said that he used a tiny bit of the information about her.

I'm actually happy that she refused to drop the lawsuit against Robert. She is once again proving without a doubt how stupid she really is! She will get exactly what she deserves...exposed to everyone!

Somewhere In Time said... 23

So what are the complaints that remain against Robert? That he conspired with whom? That he stole her journals from the garbage? If the claim remains that he ruined her reputation, will she have to prove that the words published in his book (as taken from the journals) weren't altered in any way? I can't imagine that she would want to go through deposition for that.

localyocul said... 24

Christine Carter ‏@CarterRcarter7 46s
@MissAmiaSays @Kateplusmy8 @realitytvkids @ashymama2 Is this true? Not seeing it reported. Last article I c was subpoena 4 Hailey Glassman
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Yes, let's trust an ROL article but not an official filing. LOL I guess she couldn't get Hailey to cooperate. Maybe Hailey admitted her texts were fake HAHA

Angie said... 25

I bet Jon goes for more 'visitation', as WOS likes to call it. *snort*

Me-Lisa said... 26

Is this the case that BV takes credit for?

Oh, wanted to mention,
BV told radaronline that attorneys got supeanos for RAW. now he is publishing commenter's IP's on his time line. How is this legal?

Me-Lisa said... 27

How did Kate get what she wanted?
Was one of the stipulations that the law suit get dropped that Jon do something?

swimgirl said... 28

Angie said... 7

ok, what does 'with prejudice' mean?
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It means she can not refile the charges against Jon EVER!

How so said... 29

PoorHoffman, if Jon gave Kate anything it was the raspberry. I don't think Hoffman entered into it at all. Not sure I follow your intellectual leap there.

SCgal said... 30

Anonymous said... 12
From what I have heard, Kate's attorneys played this beautifully. They got exactly what they wanted.

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Yes, they were trying to make themselves look like idiots.

swimgirl said... 31

OT, but there is a funny article on Gather about the bagels, it's titled
"Kate Gosselin Makes Unappetizing Bagels Without A Hole, But She's Still Proud!"

http://celebs.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474981964620

CarolJB said... 32

I just wanted to point out that the case could have been settled between Kate and Jon. The settlement would not show up in the docket report. There would just be a stipulation to dismiss with prejudice. I have settled many cases and just filed a stipulation to dismiss. However, I did receive compensation with the settlement and the terms are almost always confidential in my cases. There is no way with the docket to know if Kate voluntarily withdrew her case or just settled it and what the terms are.

localyocul said... 33

reader said... 18
I am predicting the entire case will be dismissed, and probably not too long after this joint motion is granted. The case has no legs.

(((((

I think so too

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 34

Any decision reached pre trial is a "settlement" but it doesn't mean either one had to give up anything. It could have been as simple as Kate realizing no one is backing down here like she planned. So her attorneys phone his attorneys and drop it. If it were a formal settlement usually those terms are spelled out and I don't see any terms here. It's just an agreement among all parties to drop it. Again you often don't have to give up a darn thing to get the other side to drop it especially when it's this weak of a suit. It's really their money to spend and that's often all the motivation they need to let it go. Her suit against Robert is going to be even harder. She's a public figure and he is, like it or not, a journalist. So few of those suits ever make it past the front door. The burden is all on her. It's just a money pit now.

Somewhere In Time said... 35

Question...

The Daisygirl fan -- is this person really a fan, or a plant to make the sheeple look really dumb? I can't figure it out. Is she developmentally delayed, or a non-fan tweeting to make it appear that the fans aren't all that bright? I notice that she tweets to Kate that she loves her, asks if it's okay if she calls Kate on her home phone, says some of the strangest things (all professing how much she admires Kate), but I don't think that Kate has ever once acknowledged her or responded to her.

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@MissAmiaSays @Kateplusmy8 @realitytvkids What does that mean that Kate dropped the law suit against Jon

It just seem weird that if Kate has such a die-hard admiring fan, that she totally ignores her. Both the fans and the non-fans seem to ignore her, too.

Tucker's Mom said... 36

Count me out for the conspiracy theory that Jon sold Robert out. Tuma's case was strong and he's apparently a sharp shooter who doesn't need under the table deals.
I believe Tuma just out lawyered Kate. FINALLY!
If Tuma's case was weak, or if he appeared to be a hack, and then suddenly, inexplicably, the case is dropped with prejudice, then I'd smell a rat.
This scenario doesn't ring true to me at this point, after what we've learned.

Put me in the pool that Kate will declare that dropping the lawsuit against Jon is an act of selfless, motherly love, and for the childrens' sakes and theirs alone, she is dropping the suit.
Cue frowny face and shoulder shrug.

PatK said... 37

Anonymous said... 12
From what I have heard, Kate's attorneys played this beautifully. They got exactly what they wanted.

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What? Extra media attention for a dying-out D-List celebrity wannabe?

reader said... 38

Plaintiff had through today the 19th to give her response to defendants' motion to dismiss. Instead we see this Joint Motion to dismiss charges against defendant Jon Gosselin.
I am willing to bet plaintiff will not be filing an answer.
The case should be dismissed.

CarolJB said... 39

Admin:

If the settlement terms were confidential the settlement is never filed with the Court- just the stipulation of dismissal. Looking at all my cases on the docket people would think that all of my cases were dropped by my clients. The truth is every single case was settled with compensation for my client. I'm not saying this is true in Kate's case, though. There's no way of knowing if there was a settlement if it is confidential.

Call Me Crazy said... 40

Anonymous said... 12

From what I have heard, Kate's attorneys played this beautifully. They got exactly what they wanted.
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Hahahahahahaha. More like Kate's attorneys played HER beautifully. I'm sure they did get exactly what they wanted - a boatload of the children's hard-earned cash.

Her attorneys had no other choice but to cut and run after Tuma eviscerated them. They are probably just very relieved that Jon is not
a vindictive ogre and agreed to dismiss any potential counterclaims.

Unknown said... 41

Anonymous said... 12
''From what I have heard, Kate's attorneys played this beautifully. They got exactly what they wanted.''
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Oh YEA. Another anonymous 'insider' with another inane, unsubstantiated comment! Carry on, this is really amusing!

Tucker's Mom said... 42

Another reason that I don't buy any conspiracy that Jon bartered who knows what to get Kate to drop the suit is because of Tuma's strategy.
Tuma took a risk with what I've come to think of as a "low percentage play", thanks to what I've gleaned here.
Why do that if you're not confident?
I think Tuma's MTD were more than Hail Mary passes.

Somewhere In Time said... 43

After much consideration, I have decided that the lawsuit I filed against Jon was detrimental to the well-being of my children, blah, blah, blah".

Anyone want to take bets?

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I agree. However, she posted that little declaration on her bog that the lawsuit was for the safety of her kids, and then she says that she dropped it for the well-being of her kids? She can't have it both ways.

Tess said... 44

Wow - very happy to see this! Forgive me for being slow, just needing to understand. The judge didn't throw out the suit. K & J agreed to drop the suit and any countersuits. Either way, the result is the same. It is wonderful that she can't file this nonsense again.
Also, I don't believe for one second that Jon threw Robert under the bus.
Best to Jon & GO Robert!

reader said... 45

The point of this case (not in any legal document) is to stop that book from being published. TFW is not going to join in a "motion to dismiss with prejudice" with Hoffman.
She wants her options open to keep dragging him into court and continue the delay of the publishing.
But as I imagine no answer from plaintiff was filed (due through today) the case is going to be dismissed.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 46

Agree Tucker. Tuma didn't need to settle. He was in the driver's seat. If anything Kate's side was trying to find a way out of this gracefully. I realllly don't think Kate got everything she wanted out of this, nice try though. This went so inexplicably off the script Kate expected that it's laughable.

localyocul said... 47

Jersey1Girl ‏@nancivs 1m
@Kateplusmy8 ATTENTION all fans of Kate. She's going to need a zoo of cute animal pictures STAT! Maybe pithy platitudes also.

(((((((((((((

LOL

PatK said... 48

localyocul said... 25

I guess she couldn't get Hailey to cooperate. Maybe Hailey admitted her texts were fake HAHA

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Oooh...I wonder if they were really counting on Hailey being their ace-in-the-hole? Although, I guess it doesn't really matter since Tuma wiped the floor with them on the technicalities?



localyocul said... 49

Some sheep (probably the same one that wandered here) is saying J must have given a statement that he gave the disks to Hoffman. First, if he admitted that, no way would TFW drop the suit. 2nd, that would just show that what Robert wrote were TFW's words, and what would that do? unless J admitted they were somehow altered...I think they are reaching.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said... 50

Anonymous said... 12
From what I have heard, Kate's attorneys played this beautifully. They got exactly what they wanted.
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Who did you hear it from? Have they got a contract with the Comedy Club yet?

Somewhere In Time said... 51

Admin:

If the settlement terms were confidential the settlement is never filed with the Court- just the stipulation of dismissal. Looking at all my cases on the docket people would think that all of my cases were dropped by my clients. The truth is every single case was settled with compensation for my client. I'm not saying this is true in Kate's case, though. There's no way of knowing if there was a settlement if it is confidential.

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In a settlement, there are sometimes "gag orders" included with the terms of the settlement, which means that no details of the settlement may be disclosed to anyone, and sometimes these orders are imposed for life.

Call Me Crazy said... 52

reader said... 39

Plaintiff had through today the 19th to give her response to defendants' motion to dismiss. Instead we see this Joint Motion to dismiss charges against defendant Jon Gosselin.
I am willing to bet plaintiff will not be filing an answer.
The case should be dismissed.
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reader - Does this mean that if Kate (through her attorneys) does not give a response by today to defendants' motion to dismiss the case will automatically be dismissed?

PatK said... 53

Remember Kate, you get what you get and you don't get upset!

Tess said... 54

CarolJB

Thanks for that explanation (always learning something here). I hope it was not settled. It seems highly unlikely, but I guess we will never know for sure.

Tucker's Mom said... 55

I agree. However, she posted that little declaration on her bog that the lawsuit was for the safety of her kids, and then she says that she dropped it for the well-being of her kids? She can't have it both ways.
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If history is any indicator, as long as Kate invokes the children, she can say or do or get away with most anything.

Anonymous said... 56

(Leslie)
Admin. can Tuma speak out about what lead to this decision? If so, do you think he will so?

localyocul said... 57

reader said... 46
The point of this case (not in any legal document) is to stop that book from being published. TFW is not going to join in a "motion to dismiss with prejudice" with Hoffman.
She wants her options open to keep dragging him into court and continue the delay of the publishing.
But as I imagine no answer from plaintiff was filed (due through today) the case is going to be dismissed.

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Oh, good point, the MTD was for the whole lawsuit, not just claims against Jon, correct? So since TFW did NOT file an answer, the suit may be dropped and TFW would have to refile against RH and the Does. Do I have that right?

reader said... 58

If I am correct, and what is now an absolutely threadbare case is dismissed, will TFW's counsel find a way to file other charges against Hoffman? Or will they stop taking her calls?

CarolJB said... 59

There is another stipulation. Kate's attorney now has until the 27th to file a response to the motion to dismiss for Robert's case.

PatK said... 60

localyocul said... 50
Some sheep (probably the same one that wandered here) is saying J must have given a statement that he gave the disks to Hoffman. First, if he admitted that, no way would TFW drop the suit. 2nd, that would just show that what Robert wrote were TFW's words, and what would that do? unless J admitted they were somehow altered...I think they are reaching.

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Can't fool the sheep.

LOL

Millicent said... 61

reader said... 18

I am predicting the entire case will be dismissed, and probably not too long after this joint motion is granted. The case has no legs.
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I join you in that bet. I believe it was only Jon, through his attorney, who filed a motion to dismiss. Hoffman may or may not have joined in that motion. Now, what Hoffman's attorney may be considering is filing his own motion to dismiss. And how nice for him to have a template to use - the very well written motion by Jon's attorney.

I do not believe Jon offered Kate anything - information, money, etc., in return for this dismissal. What is more likely is that her attorneys knew this was a loser, and convinced Kate that it would be a costly loss to her. I am sure they are charging her by the hour. It is possible that each side agreed to pay their own legal fees and costs and simply walk away.

Shawn Tuma and his firm are formidable opponents. I believe Hoffman does have a good law firm working for him, but perhaps not quite as aggressively. Still, I am optimistic that Kate will not prevail against Hoffman either.

A fool and her kids' money are soon parted.

CarolJB said... 62

One way to tell if there was a settlement is if you don't hear a word from Kate or Jon. They are allowed to say the case is dismissed or settled, but that is it.

If the case was voluntarily dismissed by Kate then both parties are free to speak about the case.

Math Girl said... 63

Wasn't the heart of the suit the allegation that Jon hacked, gave data to Hoffman, who wrote the book (invaded her privacy). And they conspired together. If Jon didn't do anything wrong, then what's left? Hoffman conspired with himself? Hoffman hacked?

If all charges against Jon are dismissed with prejudice, won't K's attorneys have to rewrite complaint to leave out Jon, allege what Hoffman did? Or does Hoffman's lawyer have to rewrite/reinterpret it to leave out Jon before he can refute it? That seems ridiculously unfair.

It does seem without Jon, allegations against Hoffman are extremely weak. Unless allegations formerly made against Jon are now being made against Hoffman?

Layla said... 64

Kate assumed that Jon and Robert wouldn't have the resources to fight back, and she would win by default. She must have been stunned when Jon lined up Tuma and Tuma proceeded to rip her claims to shreds. It's possible that she decided to cut her losses and run, if Jon would agree not to sue her for filing false charges against him. She won't drop the charges against Robert, though, because that's the only tactic she has left to stall the publication of the book. She knows he is ready to republish at a moment's notice, and she knows that he has an offer to make a TV movie. That would destroy her. She has to hang on and try to figure out a way to stop him, or at least delay the inevitable.
What charges does she have against Robert now that Jon is out of the picture and there was no "conspiracy"? Is she left with that "It's all true but it invades my privacy" claim? HA!
I can't wait to see how the sheeple try to spin this.

localyocul said... 65

CarolJB said... 60
There is another stipulation. Kate's attorney now has until the 27th to file a response to the motion to dismiss for Robert's case.

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Oh good grief LOL

Tucker's Mom said... 66

PatK said... 54
Remember Kate, you get what you get and you don't get upset!
November 19, 2013 at 3:00 PM
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I don't know that Kate every truly believe this case would come to fruition. The short play was file the suit and get on many more and bigger shows for the ersatz cookbook tour (that applies to both the cookbook and tour, btw).
Mission accomplished, n'est-ce pas?
The long play may not have been Jon at all. He may have been the red herring or even collateral damage. The long term goal was- is - to stop the re-release of a book that no doubt will damage her reputation profoundly.
Irretrievably even.

CarolJB said... 67

There would be an incentive for both parties to settle. Jon because he doesn't want the case to drag on even if he would prevail. Kate because it's a way for her to save face. She can claim the case is settled and everyone will think that Kate prevailed. I've seen plaintiffs settle for absurdly low amounts when their cases fell apart just so they could feel that they "won". If Kate states she dismissed the case then I'm inclined to believe there was no settlement. One way or another her lawyers must have had a terrible night convincing her to drop this suit against Jon.

CarolJB said... 68

I almost forgot. I've had cases where the settlement was that the Plaintiff could say absolutely nothing about the case- including the fact that the Plaintiff even sued the Defendant. If I was Jon this is what I would want included in my settlement agreement.

Layla said... 69

I wonder if Kate delayed dropping the charges until after her H&F taping. Perhaps she didn't want to have to show her face after having to own up to the fact that her lawsuit was all a lie. So, knowing that she would be dropping the lawsuit, she filed for an extension, went on the show to pretend to be the world's most amazing mother (cough, cough), then filed the inevitable paperwork when she got back.

Is it possible that, as part of the agreement to drop the charges, Jon got her to pay all of his legal fees? She drops everything, and he agrees not to sue her when she agrees to pay his lawyer and never file those false charges again. I hope that's what happened. There's no reason he should be made to pay when he didn't do anything wrong.

Tucker's Mom said... 70

Somewhere in PA, Sylvia LaFair is quietly chuckling.

localyocul said... 71

CarolJB said... 68

One way or another her lawyers must have had a terrible night convincing her to drop this suit against Jon.

((((((((

Well,,,


Jordan Rushie ‏@JRushie 22h
Rough night at the office. pic.twitter.com/BkJprjGn95

Over And Out said... 72

✨MissAmiaSays✨ ‏@MissAmiaSays 32m
@FireyTopaz1 @CarterRcarter7 @Kateplusmy8 @realitytvkids @ashymama2 I guess since Radar ERR Wrong didn't post, no one believes it.

Firey Topaz ‏@FireyTopaz1 35m
@CarterRcarter7 @MissAmiaSays @Kateplusmy8 @realitytvkids @ashymama2 Yes it's real. The motion is posted here: http://www.realitytvkids.com/2013/11/breaking-news-kate-drops-lawsuit.html#comment-form …

I guess the skeptical sheep believe that admin posted a fake document, and that admin drew up that ridiculous inept complaint filed by Razzie just to make Kate's team look bad! Unless Radar posts it, it must be false!

localyocul said... 73

CarolJB said... 60
There is another stipulation. Kate's attorney now has until the 27th to file a response to the motion to dismiss for Robert's case.

(((((((

If, as the sheep are already claiming, this means that Jon is rolling over (I don't see what he would have to roll over though...) would that information be part of the plaintiff's next response?

Over And Out said... 74

Hoffman conspired with himself?

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That's exactly what I was wondering. Maybe he conspired with the 20 or so John Does who have no names and no addresses. Will they be issued subpoenas?

CarolJB said... 75

Is it possible that, as part of the agreement to drop the charges, Jon got her to pay all of his legal fees?

Yes- he could also have a gag order so Kate couldn't tell anyone anything about the case. Settlement isn't necessarily a bad thing for Jon. This would be a good way to stop Kate once and for all. I've seen cases where the attorneys argue for sanctions against the other party for filing frivolous suits that they couldn't prove. They also request attorney fees. A settlement would end the motion for sanctions.

Call Me Crazy said... 76

CarolJB said... 60

There is another stipulation. Kate's attorney now has until the 27th to file a response to the motion to dismiss for Robert's case.
__________________

Oh, brother. It's like Groundhog Day. How long will this stall tactic be allowed to continue? At some point I would think that a judge would say, sorry fellas, no more extensions.

CarolJB said... 77

CarolJB said... 68

One way or another her lawyers must have had a terrible night convincing her to drop this suit against Jon.

((((((((

Well,,,


Jordan Rushie ‏@JRushie 22h
Rough night at the office. pic.twitter.com/BkJprjGn95

Now we know why!!

localyocul said... 78

OT Kendall Jenner is trending on Twitter. I thought now what did SHE do? Oh, she posted an Instagram of herself showing her breasts through a sheer shirt. Well, look at her role models and what her mother values.

Luke's Mom said... 79

Wonderful news! But not surprising since we all knew she had no case against Jon. She was just betting on him not having legal representation and folding to her demands.

I hope both Jon and Shawn Tuma read here so they will know that I am congratulating them both! What a great job using the LAW to show Kate Gosselin she has to STOP trying to bully Jon now that she can no longer control him and make him do what she wants.

And to Kate (since we know you read our posts too): You continue to prove, over and over again, how you are a hateful, vengeful, and ugly person. And by filing a meritless lawsuit against Jon, who your children love so much, you just added to the long list that demonstrates just how evil and spiteful you are as a mother.

Though I am so happy for Jon tonight, I am so sad for his kids if they are with Kate now.

Amanda, Iowa said... 80

The sheeps will prob spin this as Khate being the bigger person and dropping the charges against the Father of her children just because of her children's sake. Always looking out for her kids that poor woman, the highroad and the such....but then with barf-bags :-)

PatK said... 81

Jon said on the OWN interview that this he couldn't get a job in the IT field because of this lawsuit. Now that he's been dismissed, I assume that won't be the case?

Layla said... 82

Poor sheep, they were so sure that Jon would be going to jail....

localyocul said... 83

McCaughey Septs coming up on ABC News

Angie said... 84

he sheeps will prob spin this as Khate being the bigger person and dropping the charges against the Father of her children just because of her children's sake. Always looking out for her kids that poor woman, the highroad and the such....but then with barf-bags :-)
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but but but....she can't! as the earlier poster said, she SAID she filed the lawsuit for 'the safety of her children'.

how's she going to spin this? LOL

I watched the cooking ep on the hallmark channel this morning...she said "I spend (hesitates and catches herself ) ....a lot of time in the kitchen'....she was going to throw out that 80% again, but caught herself.
LOL

Angie said... 85

Though I am so happy for Jon tonight, I am so sad for his kids if they are with Kate now.
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doesn't Jon get the kids every Tuesday?

Unknown said... 86

CarolJB said... 75
''Is it possible that, as part of the agreement to drop the charges, Jon got her to pay all of his legal fees?''
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''Yes- he could also have a gag order so Kate couldn't tell anyone anything about the case. Settlement isn't necessarily a bad thing for Jon. This would be a good way to stop Kate once and for all.''
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Since is has been made very clear that Tuma is an excellent attorney, I suspect Tuma would protect his client, making sure that TFMJG paid the legal fees Jon has accumulated. I don't know if we will ever know the details, but I trust that Tuma got every concession he wanted from TFW and her attorneys!

Over And Out said... 87

Oh YEA. Another anonymous 'insider' with another inane, unsubstantiated comment! Carry on, this is really amusing!

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lol!! They were supposed to report to their Central Command Station and got lost. You'd think by now that they would have a reliable GPS. I hear some of the stores have some really good ones on Black Friday sales.

reader said... 88

Yes now there is another stipulation filed (not signed by judge) to give plaintiff through Nov 27th to respond to defendants' motion to dismiss.

In my mind they know this case is done and are attempting to work out something with Hoffman's attorneys.
Guessing there is no response to the previously filed motion to dismiss, my guess is they are attempting to bargain.
Its down to brass tacks, they want the book stopped. But how, and what do they have to offer Hoffman? In that case, with this case stripped bare, what do they have period?

Rhymes with Witch said... 89

Somewhere in PA, Sylvia LaFair is quietly chuckling. 70

Oh, I hope her laughter is not quiet at all.

Tucker's Mom said... 90

I watched the cooking ep on the hallmark channel this morning...she said "I spend (hesitates and catches herself ) ....a lot of time in the kitchen'....she was going to throw out that 80% again, but caught herself.
LOL
*******
Good catch.
80% or anywhere near 80% is way too much time spent in the kitchen, but I think the kitchen is Kate's refuge in a house full of children. I don't get the sense she cooks with her children, teaching them patiently.
That's her space, not a place for interacting or nurturing.

getofftwitter said... 91

Well, is anyone shocked? I'm not! Kate made a fool of herself, and gave more ammo to the other kids at school to further tease her kids. Kate will be quiet for a while. I too think the rest of the law suite will be dropped. Hollywood won't even touch you with a ten foot pole.

AuntieAnn said... 92

The kids are going to have to 'encourage' Kate to quit hating Jon.

spin, spin, spin, spin said... 93

Plaintiff TFW agreeing to dismiss "with prejudice" so early on...
does this go under that "refusing to fail" she talked about on the Home and Family couch?

Susantoyota said... 94

So happy for Jon. Hope TFMJG/WOS will dismiss the suit against Robert. Although it would be fun to see her try and win in court.

It's very appropriate that this dismissal comes on the McCaughey septuplet's 16th birthday. Makes me hopeful for the Gosselin kids' that their 16th birthdays will be joyous and free of the stress caused by the WOS.

Hopefully, Jon will press his advantage and get more custody time or full custody.

Tess said... 95

Remona Blue - 86

You know, I bet you are right that Tuma got everything he could for Jon. It makes sense.
It will be interesting to see what happens with Robert's case now. Sounds like whatever happen she will continue to look like a hateful fool.

getofftwitter said... 96

Patk: For Jon it will take a long time for Jon to prove himself to the IT world, that he is an honest trust worthy person again. He probably will have to almost start over again, and work twice as hard, to build up a reputation, as a IT person. No thanks to Kate, for almost ruining that. It's too bad he can't sue her for ruining his reputation.

reader said... 97

Anyway you spin it the case is going to be dismissed, I am convinced this week at a time extension to file, now against the skeletal remains of what was a bootleg case to begin with, is merely to work out a deal with Hoffman. There is no great legal response being drawn up.

localyocul said... 98

Well, Milo may figure out that the "haters" are more compassionate than some of the fans. One of the fans that called her out (rightly so) was Ziggy who is IMO vicious.

Jersey1Girl ‏@nancivs 16 Nov
@MiloandJack @Kateplusmy8 this picture is degrading to animals and females. Borderline abusive and exploitive of dogs. Disturbing. Sick.

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 16 Nov
@nancivs I was tired last nite & was attempting 2lighten the mood...saw it as just a silly animal dress up. I was wrong. thank U.

Jersey1Girl ‏@nancivs 16 Nov
@MiloandJack it's very big of you to acknowledge and tweet your regrets. Kudos for that

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 24h
@nancivs I tweeted apology 2several...ur the only one who acknowledged it. I know you hate me...so 4U 2do that means alot. Thanks..:)

Jersey1Girl ‏@nancivs 24h
@MiloandJack PLEASE do not go another second thinking I hate u.I truly do not,I don't know u, I have no reason to dislike you,let alone hate

Jersey1Girl ‏@nancivs 24h
@MiloandJack I do think you are horribly misguided in your adoration of KG. No stranger should get that unconditional support, and her

Jersey1Girl ‏@nancivs 24h
@MiloandJack her treatment of her children as well as her twitter follows is inexcusable. You deserve an equal twitter support from her.

reader said... 99

I guess Steve's computer forensics were of no service in this wire tapping, identify theft, computer hacking case.

Layla said... 100

I'm a little surprised that Kate agreed to dismiss WITH prejudice. That means she can't hold the threat of suing him again over his head. We all know that she can't stand to give up control, so it would have taken a lot to get her to agree to that. I wonder what it was? Did her lawyers tell her that the judge would dismiss and Jon could then sue her? Maybe it was an "I won't sue your lying a$$ if you agree that you'll never pull this stunt again" situation? We know Kate doesn't have the kids' best interests in mind, but Jon does, and wanted to put an end to this mess for them.

How hard would it be for Kate's lawyers to talk her into this? She would have fought it tooth and nail. Having to back down to Jon? Having to admit that sometime "no" actually means "no" for her. Having to admit that she's NOT in charge. Her poor lawyer. He deserved it, though, by getting involved in this mess.

Tucker's Mom said... 101

Its down to brass tacks, they want the book stopped. But how, and what do they have to offer Hoffman? In that case, with this case stripped bare, what do they have period?
*******
At this point, can Kate offer Robert lots of money to close this thing down? Is that extortion?
Signed
-getting very confused!

Amanda, Iowa said... 102

Angie said... 84 as reaction on me...Amanda Iowa,...

But we know that the working braincells are on our side :-)
So the Sheep will Blaaht, blaaht, blaaht ;-)

localyocul said... 103

Tucker's Mom said... 90
I watched the cooking ep on the hallmark channel this morning...she said "I spend (hesitates and catches herself ) ....a lot of time in the kitchen'....she was going to throw out that 80% again, but caught herself.
LOL
*******
Good catch.
80% or anywhere near 80% is way too much time spent in the kitchen, but I think the kitchen is Kate's refuge in a house full of children. I don't get the sense she cooks with her children, teaching them patiently.
That's her space, not a place for interacting or nurturing.

((((

Exactly. Remember on CWS she ordered the twins not to come in when they came down too early.

localyocul said... 104

reader said... 97
Anyway you spin it the case is going to be dismissed, I am convinced this week at a time extension to file, now against the skeletal remains of what was a bootleg case to begin with, is merely to work out a deal with Hoffman. There is no great legal response being drawn up.

&&&&&&&&&&&&

I hope so! Can you say, are you an attorney or paralegal? Obviously you have access to the docket...you don't have to say but just curious.

Craziness said... 105

It looks like both Christmas and Thanksigiving has arrived early, YES.

I'm waiting with popcorn for the usual sheep to freak out. Has Milo started yet?

reader said... 106

Tuma won this hands down.

Dmasy said... 107

The very simple way that I see this -- Mr. Tuma is a very important Inspector Gadget. He made Kate aware of her crumbs on the floor.

Tucker's Mom said... 108

getofftwitter said... 96
Patk: For Jon it will take a long time for Jon to prove himself to the IT world, that he is an honest trust worthy person again. He probably will have to almost start over again, and work twice as hard, to build up a reputation, as a IT person. No thanks to Kate, for almost ruining that. It's too bad he can't sue her for ruining his reputation.
****
I don't think Jon foraying back into the world of Reality TV bodes well for any IT employer to have confidence that he'll be a company guy.
What happens when the next "gig" comes his way?

localyocul said... 109

Dmasy said... 107
The very simple way that I see this -- Mr. Tuma is a very important InspectoR Gadget. He made Kate aware of her crumbs on the floor.

))

lol BAZINGA

LancasterCountyMom said... 110

Tucker's Mom said... 101
Its down to brass tacks, they want the book stopped. But how, and what do they have to offer Hoffman? In that case, with this case stripped bare, what do they have period?
*******
At this point, can Kate offer Robert lots of money to close this thing down? Is that extortion?
Signed
-getting very confused!
..............
I hope that Robert doesn't let her get away with a single thing!!!!

Amanda, Iowa said... 111

And all that time in the kitchen cookin.....I cook every night........yep, every night cooking from scratch for 5+! kids. I work at a hospice-organization, partime, not fulltime....sorry, but I love cooking.... I cook like a good Jewish mom so I always! = always!!!! have way to much, but it does not....DOES NOT.... take that much time to put a good healthy meal on the table in about 30 minutes. I do get out of my kitchen. Oh I don't use paper plates and we only have 1 dish-washer. I always tell the kids..whatever doesn't fit in the dishwasher gets washed by hand....magical words :-)

Amy2 said... 112

I have my credit card out and ready waiting for Robert's book. With the dismissal of Jon's lawsuit today, I feel that Robert's dismissal is right around the corner. And once that happens, Robert should be able to the (re-)release the book with updates.

Lalalalala said... 113

There are hundreds of reasons I could mention about why Kate is such a loser as a human being but Twitter has been her biggest spiral downward. If she had never opened a Twitter account, I truly believe things would be different for her.

gabby2 said... 114

I can't wait till Gosselin children say..."can we sue???"

Exwife continues to p**** away their money.

Tucker's Mom said... 115

How's Kate's Twitter timeline? Going nuclear yet?
btw... can anyone link to it? I keep on forgetting how to access it to see what's going on.
Miss the poo flinging ;-)

AuntieAnn said... 116

Kate’s going to have a lot more than Ten worst moments this year. There are still six weeks left. I wonder what her next faux pas will be.

Marie said... 117

I believe that Kate dropped this lawsuit because she is a changes person and realizes that because Jon is the father of her children, she must do what is best for the children and never talk bad or disparage their father. She realizes that she must set a good example for her children and if they CHOOSE to VISIT him, she must support that, no matter what questionable "choices" that their father may make. She will continue to do what she must "for the kids" and that includes protecting their privacy. All she does is for the children and she will continue to work hard to polish the gold and silver platters that she alone has provided for her children, because they do DESERVE them as they were born into a family of multiple multiples.

Marie

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said... 118

Tucker's Mom here ya go: https://twitter.com/search?q=kateplusmy8&src=typd&f=realtime

Sad but true said... 119

localyocul said... 103
...
Exactly. Remember on CWS she ordered the twins not to come in when they came down too early.

Funny, I just assumed she didn't want them horning in on HER camera time.

reader said... 120

At this point, there are no Jane and John Does, if discovery has brought plaintiffs counsel to their own motion to dismiss against their main defendant, then discovery did not bring about the Does either.

I highly doubt any attorneys are willing to begin a New case against Hoffman and the Does.
I really think the ball is in Hoffman's court and all that remains are phone calls back and forth between the 2 camps.

I wonder if Tuma is advising. I hope so.

reader said... 121

Tucker's Mom said .........."poo flinging"...love it.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 122

I think that's exactly what is going on with Robert, the extension is to work out the terms of their dismissal for his potion as well.

I imagine the with prejudice was a real sticking point. It could have been as simple as fighting over attorneys fees and whether that portion of the suit will be dismissed with prejudice. I have a feeling Robert wouldn't be as likely as Jon would be to roll over on attorneys fees. Robert and Jon are in the position to call the shots here and if Robert says fine don't wanna pay my fees than you'll just have to go forward with this, Kate could be stuck. What a mess she got herself into. Karma sure is painful sometimes.

Unknown said... 123

Tucker's Mom said... 101
''At this point, can Kate offer Robert lots of money to close this thing down? Is that extortion?
Signed
-getting very confused!''
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Robert 'wrote' the book for the children, has MUCH more information, has refused to back down, and I will NEVER believe that Robert will ever ever ever back down from TFMJG.

Robert is holding all the cards, has nothing to fear from her, and is itching to re-release his book. (Not to mention possible movie rights) I think that Robert would just love to make public any offer from TFMJG to pay him off!!

Anonymous said... 124

How can we look up the docket?

Andrea

Marie said... 125

I don't think Robert will back down either. He has come too far to do that now.

Lalalalala said... 126

http://gosselinbook.blogspot.com/

New post by Robert. I guess it ain't over 'cause Marvin is still singing.

Fleecing The Sheeple said... 127

How's Kate's Twitter timeline? Going nuclear yet?
btw... can anyone link to it? I keep on forgetting how to access it to see what's going on.
Miss the poo flinging ;-)

=========

One anon sheep has already wandered over here. That emergency meeting really happened fast! I didn't know they could move that quickly! They are claiming that Kate's attorneys played this beautifully. I guess that's the best they can come up with on such short notice! Sheep will buy it, but on here, not so much! :)

Tucker's Mom said... 128

Marie said... 124
I don't think Robert will back down either. He has come too far to do that now.
November 19, 2013 at 5:36 PM
*******
Robert says, "let's get it on".
http://gosselinbook.blogspot.com/

Fleecing The Sheeple said... 129

I think that's exactly what is going on with Robert, the extension is to work out the terms of their dismissal for his potion as well.

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Would that be Love Potion Number Nine? Oops...make that EIGHT. Kate's special number.

swimgirl said... 130

New post up...http://gosselinbook.blogspot.com/

The Empress Has New Clothes said... 131

Don't you know how sweet and wonderful, life can be
I'm askin you baby, to get it on with me
I aint gonna worry, I aint gonna push
So come on, come on, come on, come on baby
Stop beatin round the bush....

Let's get it on
Let's get it on
Let's get it on
Let's get it on...

Marie said... 132

Well, now I believe Robert May not WANT to dismiss this lawsuit.

Tucker's Mom said... 133

I take it Robert is confident. I hope this chapter will be over soon for him, and everyone can have peaceful Holidays.

The Empress Has New Clothes said... 134

LOL, Walt just reappeared on TFW's timeline. Coincidence?

Anonymous said... 135

Radar online - kate abandons suit!

Millicent said... 136

CarolJB said:
The truth is every single case was settled with compensation for my client.
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Carol, I agree that we cannot know the terms of any settlement worked out between Jon and Kate in this lawsuit. However, I have seen more than one case come through our office where after discovery was conducted that showed plaintiff had an extremely weak case, that settlement was simply an agreement to dismiss the case as long as the defendant did not seek costs of suit. So it does happen, and it could have happened here. The reason I think it's more than 40% likely, is because we've read the complaint, Tuma's motion to dismiss, and the amended complaint, and further motion to dismiss.

Plaintiff's side did sloppy work, had weak arguments, and a poorly crafted complaint. Defendant's side had an extremely strong response, point by point refuting the allegations of the complaint. If the motion had been heard, I'm fairly confident it would have been granted in large part.

So plaintiff is coming from a defensive position, not a position of strength. Defense has the upper hand, from what is publicly available. I could quite easily see Tuma saying, "If your client will agree to dismiss my client with prejudice, I can probably talk him into agreeing to drop his counter suit and further, not seeking his costs of suit."

But again, you are correct in that this is not put on the record, is usually confidential, and so we'll never know for sure. But Tuma is a bulldog and I can see this scenario play out.

JR said... 137

RAdar has picked up the story...

localyocul said... 138

http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2013/11/kate-gosselin-jon-gosselin-drops-lawsuit/

Kate Gosselin Abandons Multi-Million Dollar Hacking & Wiretapping Lawsuit Against Ex-Husband

Tucker's Mom said... 139

The Empress Has New Clothes said... 133
LOL, Walt just reappeared on TFW's timeline. Coincidence?
November 19, 2013 at 6:00 PM
******
Who is he again?

Millicent said... 140

PatK said... 81

Jon said on the OWN interview that this he couldn't get a job in the IT field because of this lawsuit. Now that he's been dismissed, I assume that won't be the case?
*****
I don't work in the IT field, so I couldn't hazard a reliable opinion. Hope he can once again pursue a job in his field, but is the damage already done/

JR said... 141

What does Walt have to say ....can't get her twitter feed on my ipad

localyocul said... 142

Well, TFW's timeline is now full of news of her "abandoning" lawsuit against Jon. Hahaha

Fleecing The Sheeple said... 143

ROL has the story. Now we can all rest easy, knowing it must be true!

"Kate Gosselin has dropped her lawsuit against ex-husband Jon Gosselin, RadarOnline.com has confirmed.

In a sensational move on Tuesday, the former reality television mother dismissed the suit with prejudice against her husband of 10 years, barring her from bringing an action on the same claim.

Dismissal with prejudice is considered a final judgment.

But Kate, 38, did not release another defendant, Robert Hoffman, the author of Kate Gosselin: How She Fooled The World, from the lawsuit.

He is alleged to have illegally tapped and accessed Kate’s computer without her authorization."

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Robert was accused of tapping and accessing Kate's computer?

And here come all of the tabloids/bots with the story. That didn't take very long!

localyocul said... 144

JR said... 141
What does Walt have to say ....can't get her twitter feed on my ipad

***********

He's on private...you can just see the replies.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 145

However, I have seen more than one case come through our office where after discovery was conducted that showed plaintiff had an extremely weak case, that settlement was simply an agreement to dismiss the case as long as the defendant did not seek costs of suit. So it does happen, and it could have happened here.

&&&

I agree, it happens all the time. People can agree to just drop things without any money changing hands. You don't get to file a lawsuit and then just get bought off every time. Plus at least in my experience a judge has to approve all settlements and if something smells fishy they will say nope not doing that. Making JON pay in this whole mess seems borderline blackmail. Any good judge reading these briefs would be suspicious of a payout and rightly so. Why should Jon pay KATE when his briefs demolished hers? As in I'll make your life miserable and sue you into the ground until you pay up. I would be careful about going there if I were her. A judge could get suspicious especially given how baseless this suit is.

Like I said, she made the only play she had left. The only play any attorney would advise her to take. She had no choice here. She had to get out of this ASAP. And I think the same will happen for Robert, as that's her only play in that situation too. I think the only fight here is over attorney fees. Besides I doubt neither Jon nor Robert has much money even if she did demand a payout. And based on how we were just discussing that her Home and Family interview was one of her most VICIOUS yet against Jon, I think we know exactly how she feels about this situation. She's not happy.

The Empress Has New Clothes said... 146

Shawn Tuma = Inspector Gadget.

(Easy pickings, and this is a whip-smart group, so I'd be surprised if no one else mentioned the irony already.)

JR said... 147

Milo must be devastated....it's been a bad week for milo....aaaawwwwwwwww..BTW...where's Goody?

OrangeCrusher1 said... 148

Karma chameleon, oh I am quite sure she is one unhappy camper. She really was playing in the wrong sandbox this time around. No matter how hard she tries, no way to spin it to make her look good, so twitter silence would be a blessing. You too, Milo, take a loong break.

The Empress Has New Clothes said... 149

Shawn E. Tuma ‏@shawnetuma 4h
We all fall short and make mistakes but must keep trying > song on my mind > Lifesong - Casting Crowns http://ow.ly/qZl2u

capecodmama said... 150

Woo Hoo! Yeah Jon. TFW continues to show that she truly is, as Joy in VA so eloquently describes her, a tool.

Off to finish reading the comments on the McCaughey septuplets and RH's blog.

Katykat said... 151

This is OT and I don't know if this is what discipline TFW used, but doesn't it sound familiar?
http://www.examiner.com/article/another-couple-found-guilty-of-murder-for-parenting-by-to-train-up-a-child

The Empress Has New Clothes said... 152

Per Shawn Tuma's Tweet

"Lifesong"

Empty hands held high
Such small sacrifice
If not joined with my life
I sing in vain tonight

May the words I say
And the things I do
Make my lifesong sing
Bring a smile to You

Let my lifesong sing to You
Let my lifesong sing to You
I want to sign Your name to the end of this day
Knowing that my heart was true
Let my lifesong sing to You

Lord I give my life
A living sacrifice
To reach a world in need
To be Your hands and feet

So may the words I say
And the things I do
Make my lifesong sing
Bring a smile to You

Hallelujah
Hallelujah
Let my lifesong sing to You

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 153

Didn't Kate tweet some platitude yesterday or the day before that sounded sort of defeated? They all run together for me so I forgot what it was.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 154

He's deeply religious and I think he's just giving God credit for his victory. I've seen lots of religious people do this in victory. They always make sure to remember this is really all about God not mere mortals.

I like that song. Congrats Shawn but you're right, there but for the grace of God.

The Empress Has New Clothes said... 155

Admin at 152 You mean this?
Quote Images ‏@Quotelmages 16 Nov
pic.twitter.com/2WHc7fTUAn
Retweeted by Kate Gosselin

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 156

They are claiming that Kate's attorneys played this beautifully.

&&&

Hm, interesting strategy there. Can't say as I've ever seen an attorney TRY to lose then claim that was a victory lol.

Basically what they are saying is if Kate played this "beautifully" but the lawsuit ends up flushed down the drain, that Kate was just being manipulative and playing games. Being manipulative and playing games, especially as a 37 year old MOTHER, is really not something to admire, sheeple. Good grief, grow up.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 157

That's the one. Bad things won't last forever.

No they won't TFW but they sure are ironic when they are all caused by you.

SCgal said... 158

The Empress Has New Clothes said... 133
LOL, Walt just reappeared on TFW's timeline. Coincidence?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Just curious - what did Walt have to say?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 159

Thank you again Carol and Millicent and others for your help and insight. Invaluable.

The Empress Has New Clothes said... 160

SC Gal, his account is protected, so you can't see Walt's tweets--only the responses from his followers.

CarolJB said... 161

CarolJB said:
The truth is every single case was settled with compensation for my client.
****
Carol, I agree that we cannot know the terms of any settlement worked out between Jon and Kate in this lawsuit. However, I have seen more than one case come through our office where after discovery was conducted that showed plaintiff had an extremely weak case, that settlement was simply an agreement to dismiss the case as long as the defendant did not seek costs of suit.long as the defendant did not seek costs of suit. So it does happen, and it could have happened here.

I agree. Thank you for clarifying. I just meant to say that looking at my cases you would think my clients all dismissed their cases and that wasn't the case. I didn't mean that Kate was compensated for any settlement. In fact, Kate could have very well have ended up with nothing.

The only reason I think there was a settlement possibility is that Kate dismissed the case with prejudice. I have dismissed cases for my clients for various reasons, but would be reluctant to dismiss a case with prejudice without a settlement agreement. The reason is what if a reluctant witness suddenly came forth next week or new evidence was discovered? Kate would be fuming that her attorneys suggested she file the dismissal with prejudice.

Again, as pointed out by Millicent said it doesn't mean that Kate received any type of compensation even if she had a settlement agreement.

Luke's Mom said... 162

To Robert Hoffman: Good luck with your Motion to Dismiss. I look forward to reading about your victory soon too!

Rhymes with Witch said... 163

ROL has the story. The sheeple can breathe again.

And spin it of course.
In 9 days we'll all find out what she decided about RH's mtd. Meanwhile, glad for Jon and the children.

Thank you Mr. Tuma.

Jumping In said... 164

Gather all you sad and weary sheep, Kate wants you to know she'll soon tell the world she dropped the suit against Jon for the sake of "peace" for her children. You can sleep well tonight knowing her bed of lies has been fluffed up (again) for your comfort.

Tucker's Mom said... 165

Being manipulative and playing games, especially as a 37 year old MOTHER, is really not something to admire, sheeple. Good grief, grow up.
November 19, 2013 at 6:31 PM
*******
The rainbow fart Kate just Tweeted can be smelled along the entire Eastern sea board.
Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8 8m
All my babies tucked safely in2 bed,including 1 furry baby (who agreed2 a rare car ride 2day).Now it's my turn&I couldn't b more excited!GN!

And 'round and 'round we go...

localyocul said... 166

Katykat said... 151
This is OT and I don't know if this is what discipline TFW used, but doesn't it sound familiar?
http://www.examiner.com/article/another-couple-found-guilty-of-murder-for-parenting-by-to-train-up-a-child

(((((((

Yes. To Train up a Child sounds just like her. They talk about using wooden spoons.

The Empress Has New Clothes said... 167

Wait, she has the "babies" on Tuesday night? Isn't that Jon's custody evening?

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8 15m
All my babies tucked safely in2 bed,including 1 furry baby (who agreed2 a rare car ride 2day).Now it's my turn&I couldn't b more excited!GN!

CarolJB said... 168

I also think that Kate's attorneys probably tried to get her to dismiss her case against Robert, but she refused to budge. She knows that Robert will publish his book the second the lawsuit is over. Kate's attorneys probably asked for the extension of time to try to talk some sense into Kate and work out the details of attorney fees as admin said. What's really ironic is that no one would have noticed the re-release of the book if she hadn't brought so much attention to it through the lawsuit.

localyocul said... 169

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8 18m
All my babies tucked safely in2 bed,including 1 furry baby (who agreed2 a rare car ride 2day).Now it's my turn&I couldn't b more excited!GN!

))))))))))))))

"Safely into bed"? How can they be safe if you have dismissed the lawsuit you filed for the safety of your children?

PS I never saw a dog that didn't LOVE a car ride.

Rhymes with Witch said... 170

Now that ROL has the story it's official!
In 9 days we'll all find out what's happening with RH.
I' m a patient soul......
Meanwhile, the sheeple spin should be amusing, and to be fair, none of our opinions will change the outcome.

Katie Irene - what goes around comes around. Prepare yourself.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said... 171

Kate "couldn't be more excited" to go to bed??

Tess said... 172

So basically, she will agree to dismiss her suit vs RH, and he will publish the book, or she won't and everything will come out in discovery/trial and after the ruling, he will publish his book. Pick your poison, WOS!

Rhymes with Witch said... 173

The rainbow fart Kate just Tweeted can be smelled along the entire Eastern sea board.
Kate. 165

Oh Tucker's, is that what stinks?

Anonymous said... 174

I guess an appearance or two on the Today show or the View will be in order to get her side of the story out there. Ugh.

SCgal said... 175

The Empress Has New Clothes said... 160
SC Gal, his account is protected, so you can't see Walt's tweets--only the responses from his followers.

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Empress - thanks.

Rhymes with Witch said... 176

Thought my first comment went into the ozone.......

The Empress Has New Clothes said... 177

SC Gal ~ You're welcome! Oh, and interestingly enough, Walt just opened up his account, so his timeline is now accessible. He's tweeting lots of stuff to TFW about her (and Jon's) parenting skills. Seriously scolding her. Nothing new to those of us who've been watching her unravel for a long while now, but the timing of his reappearance is very interesting.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 178

I don't think Tuma would have been willing to let her slip away without a "with prejudice" dismissal and I bet he wouldn't pay her a dime to get it either.

I bet it was either all or nothing for them, no compromise, and NO payout. Either dismiss this whole thing and never file it ever again, or we'll see you in court. It's nice to see the other side seems to finally be calling the shots. I hope Tuma knows he's one of the first to ever tell Kate no means no.

Unknown said... 179

Tess said... 172
''So basically, she will agree to dismiss her suit vs RH, and he will publish the book, or she won't and everything will come out in discovery/trial and after the ruling, he will publish his book. Pick your poison, WOS!''
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You get what you get and you don't get upset, WOS!!

Storm said... 174
''I guess an appearance or two on the Today show or the View will be in order to get her side of the story out there. Ugh.''
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Well, FIRST, the WOS has to be invited to appear on television, and I don't think there is much interest in her at this point. On the other hand, interviewing JON might gather more interest.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 178
''I don't think Tuma would have been willing to let her slip away without a "with prejudice" dismissal and I bet he wouldn't pay her a dime to get it either.

I bet it was either all or nothing for them, no compromise, and NO payout. Either dismiss this whole thing and never file it ever again, or we'll see you in court.''
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I agree. Jon and Robert are holding all the cards, and all TFMJG has is attorneys charging her by the hour (I suspect after a hefty retainer) and her stubborn stupidity.

Rhymes with Witch said... 180

I guess an appearance or two on the Today show or the View will be in order to get her side of the story out there. Ugh.
174
I'm not so sure.....

Over In TFW's County said... 181

The rainbow fart Kate just Tweeted can be smelled along the entire Eastern sea board.
Kate. 165

Oh Tucker's, is that what stinks?

+++++++++++++++++

I thought that was our dog. She finished up the Chinese take-out tonight.

chefsummer #Leh said... 182

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8 18m
All my babies tucked safely in2 bed,including 1 furry baby (who agreed2 a rare car ride 2day).Now it's my turn&I couldn't b more excited!GN!
__________

What is she excited about??

chefsummer #Leh said... 183

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 19
For once I wish she would just be honest.
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Sorry Administrator but KK and the word honest don't go together.

Over In TFW's County said... 184


Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said... 171

Kate "couldn't be more excited" to go to bed??

+++++++++++++

That was a very odd tweet...unless Grow A Boyfriend really, really grew!

chefsummer #Leh said... 185

Rhymes with Witch said... 180
I guess an appearance or two on the Today show or the View will be in order to get her side of the story out there. Ugh.
174
I'm not so sure.....
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I so hope you are wrong lol I don't want to see her saying um or like or honestly or lying how she did it for the kids.

PatK said... 186

I can see Walt's tweets to Kate's TL here:
https://twitter.com/search?q=kateplusmy8&src=typd&f=realtime


He's basically tweeting about how screwed up BOTH Kate and Jon are. (He's always made it known he doesn't care for either of them.)

reader said... 187

Admin I think you're right, it was all or nothing for Tuma. And partly because this was truly a frivolous lawsuit.The initial complaint was vague and pieced together.
As someone said awhile back, it read like Rainman's notebook; "Charlie Babbit squeezed and pulled and hurt my neck in 1988."
So true.

Virginia Pen Mom said... 188

RubyJenJenWalt ‏@Sarelya23 1h
You know the case is a stinker when Kate's best hour so far was when her lawyer went to the wrong courthouse. #Kateplusmy8

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hahahaha!

reader said... 189

Yes, "no means no." Not now and not ever again. Can you imagine TFW's response upon hearing that concept explained to her by her attorney?

Goodnight. Early day tomorrow.

Math Girl said... 190

For anyone interested, I can see walt's tweets (and just wal't tweets) at
https://twitter.com/Underwalt

I do not have a twitter account. It might not work for people who are signed in to their twitter accounts.

Math Girl said... 191

Oops. I refreshed screen on walt's tweets and I can't see them any more. He must have just gone private.

chefsummer #Leh said... 192

reader said... 189
Yes, "no means no." Not now and not ever again. Can you imagine TFW's response upon hearing that concept explained to her by her attorney?
_____________

I can it would be something like " I just don't get it why can't we sue my ex husband? and the of course she go hides in the closet while Steve tries to get her out.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said... 193

From one of BV's minions:

This  http://imgur.com/RGvuwg0  is why it’s generally not a good idea to jump to conclusions. The case was NOT dismissed with prejudice. Kate dropped the portion of her case against Jon. What is unknown at this time is whether Jon has agreed to testify against Robert in exchange for Kate dropping the case against him . . . or not. It would seem a logical move and while I “suspect” that is what has happened I do not know and that is unconfirmed at this time. At this point anything and I mean ANYTHING about the reasons she dropped her case against Jon is nothing more than pure speculation by anyone, myself included. She does not automatically owe Jon for his attorney fees, he must sue to recover them but that will depend on what kind of agreement the two have struck. However, I see the #nutterbutters have (as predicted) decided to ignore the old adage “best to keep your mouth shut rather than open it and remove all doubt.” And, as per usual, they prove that basic legal knowledge and fact checking is beyond their mediocre and extremely limited intellectual capacity.

Meagler said... 194

Whoot whoot! Awwww...too bad Katie Irene.

Had to pop on tonight to see if you had any update with the lawsuit today, and Admin, you didnt disappoint.

Wowza to the ones who knew how to look up the lawsuit, and break the story here on "realitytvkids"!!!

I'll be back on the 29th to see what outcomes Robert will have. Like someone up thread, I think RH wants this to go to discovery.....

getofftwitter said... 195

Tuckersmom: Jon was freelancing, running his own business in IT work. He did contract work. That is where the sheeple get confused, in why Jon had so many jobs over the last 4 years, they were contract work, which for people who don't understand what that is: he works for a predetermine time period, anywhere from a month to a couple of years. When contract is over, he finds new clients. Jon said he was running his own business.

I see Goody is at it defending Kate.

Underwalt just deleted all his posts on tweeter. If he didn't then I'm not seeing them. He has been hiding cause of BV & law suit.

Sleepless In Seattle said... 196

The case was NOT dismissed with prejudice.

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So then this is a lie?

"Dismissal with prejudice of the claims and/or counterclaims between Plaintiff Kate

Gosselin and Defendant Jonathan K. Gosselin is appropriate pursuant to Federal Rule of Civil

Procedure 41(a) and (c)."

Now who do we believe?

getofftwitter said... 197

Mathgirl: it says page not found. Underwalt is gone.

PatK said... 198

Why would Walt tweet and then delete? Why bother at all then? smh

Sleepless In Seattle said... 199

He has been hiding cause of BV & law suit.

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What lawsuit?

He disappeared when he was outed by a fan who allegedly accessed his personal information illegally and he had to cancel his credit cards/bank account etc., and has been silent, saying it's in the hands of proper authorities. I doubt if it had anything to do with BV and the class action suit.

JoyinVirginia said... 200

Woo Hoo! New post and WHAT a post! No way in the world do I believe any money went to TFMJG. More likely she was finally convinced by attorneys of futility of her complaint. And by the way, razzle dazzle does not appear anywhere on the motion, correct? Just the local guy who didn't know which court house to go to.
Meanwhile, this morning on Good Morning America, Melissa Rycroft dove a car they were giving away to the home of the deserving winner. See what can happen if you are perky, positive, and get Tony Dovolani as a partner on DWTS and then actually do what he says. Oh, and appreciate your opportunities, and be gracious to others on the show.

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