Wednesday, November 27, 2013

Breaking news: Kate drops lawsuit against Robert

IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT

FOR THE EASTERN DISTRICT OF PENNSYLVANIA

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Docket No. 13:4989

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NOTICE OF VOLUNTARY DISMISSAL

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! Pursuant to Fed. R. Civ. P. 41(a)(1)(A)(i), the plaintiff, Kate Gosselin, hereby voluntarily

dismisses the above matter, without prejudice, as the opposing parties have not served an answer

or a motion for summary judgment.

Respectfully Submitted,

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Mulvihill & Rushie, LLC

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Date: November 27, 2013 A. Jordan Rushie

 2424 East York Street, Suite 316

 Philadelphia, PA 19125

 Tel: (215) 385-5291

 E-mail: Jordan@FishtownLaw.com

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Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

What's the Streisand effect?

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Trying to stop something in the name of your privacy often ends up calling even more attention to it. So it defeats the purpose of what you were trying to do in the first place, which is block something so it can remain private. Sort of a "don't pay any attention to that man behind the curtain" effect. As soon as you say that everyone wants to go look! That is exactly what happened here, no question. Should have just ignored it, never mentioned the curtain in the first place.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Zondervan might actually own the copyrights (as her publisher).

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That's a good point. Just like I don't think she has any standing whatsoever to complain about all her contracts being published. That would be up to the various companies like TLC or Lane to pursue.

jolie Jacquelyn said...

OT

I'd like a really good turkey soup recipe.

I've tried making it, & it always seem to be missing a certain something. I use the carcass & add in noodles & leftover turkey, but still not a lot of flavour. Any hints?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

We don't blindly make up fantastical stories or explanations as why this or that was done, refusing to acknowlege the error of their ways. So, the fact that Robert may have copyright issues is something that has been acknowleged and discussed already.

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Quite true. I see the copyright issues in the book, most glaringly with the contracts and the journal. I don't really see it with her book excerpts. What Kate needs to understand though is that revenge is not always the best course. Sometimes a wise man walks away and tries to just move on.

KitK said...

Admin said: Well, that's just what they're saying. It doesn't make it the law.
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Thank you for this clarification - it will be interesting to see how this plays out. This doesn't even take into account that if anyone has a beef about copyright issues in TFW's books, it might be Zondervan. Imagine - TFW bringing yet another loser case.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


The fact that Robert was dismissed without prejudice from the prior lawsuit indicated to me she had something else up her sleeve for him.

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I don't know. Not necessarily. I think Rule 41 was a cheap out for her. If she tried to negotiate with Robert I doubt she'd ever be happy with the terms and the next thing you know she'd actually be going through with the suit and we know she didn't ever want that unless it was just an open and shut order granting it.

Rule 41 was a way for her to make a clean break without much consequence. It was the safest bet. A get out quick loophole, abort the mission because it all went to sh&t, if you will.

LisaNH said...

Well, whatever happens in the future, if Robert releases a paper copy of it, I will read it. I'm a cranky ole traditionalist who doesn't read books on Kindles or Nooks or what ever this fangled technology is. I want a book with pages that I can turn LOL.

Layla said...

It boggles the mind to think that, despite the negativity surrounding TFW (which is all her own doing),she still claims to be dreaming of her second chance to be a star. Does she think she can somehow make everyone forget that the book existed? That she can claim copyright (thereby admitting to beating her kids) and somehow still become a media darling?

She claimed back in Sept. that her TLC contract was at its very, very end and interest in signing her and the kids was "huge". It is now December. She doesn't seem to realize that, in time, her claims will end up being disproved. If she claims there is huge interest in signing her, then all anyone has to do is wait and see if that happens. Remember when she kept hinting and wink-winking about a new show? Two years later, no new show. She lied, and the passage of time proved that.

The sheep are the same. When TFW dropped the charges against Jon, the sheep swore that she did it in exchange for Jon testifying against Robert. Then she ended up dropping the charges against Robert.
All those wild claims TFW and the sheep make, but the passage of time shows them to be lying every time. When will they ever learn?

Tucker's Mom said...

I don't know if this 'chatter' about Kate suing Robert is true or not, but I get why she might be shitting bricks. The chasm between TV Kate/blogging Kate/Tweeting Kate and journaling-real-life-Kate is as big as, well, that waste of space called the Grand Canyon.
To wit, Kate's account of beating a little boy for having a bowel movement accident after 5, count 'em, 5 days of potty training stands in stark contrast to this missive excerpt that she penned for The Stir, about potty training:
"At this point, you may be wondering why on earth I wouldn't choose to use modern day pull-up trainers? Well, to be very honest, it really helps to connect the dots if the child can feel wet. They won't like the feeling and will be more apt to stop playing and get to the potty -- fast!...Lastly, I always tried to stay calm and not get upset when accidents happened, no matter where. It's very important that potty training is a GOOD and positive experience, no matter what..."

This kind of revelation will be like finding out that Martha Stewart really puts canned cranberry sauce on her Thanksgiving table, like Tony Robbins wears lifts and is really 5'2", like the Pope is secretly married, like Liberace was a raging heterosexual.

The initial lying about being so poor and rifling through couch cushions pales in comparison to what's in Robert's book, and Kate KNOWS it.
By they way, according to Kate's journal excerpts in Robert's book, Kate did not look favorably upon mothers who used Pull Ups (lazy mothering, I think she called it?), until she began to use them herself.
Then, she thought they were the greatest thing on Earth...

Rhymes with Witch said...

All those wild claims TFW and the sheep make, but the passage of time
shows them to be lying every time. When will they ever learn? 8

IMO, some (not all) of that was speculating and wishfull thinking,
which we also engage in.

DisgustedwithKate said...

I do not understand why Robert is having such a difficult time releasing his book on Kate. IMHO, Kate is a "nobody"/reality "star". The author Kitty Kelly has written several books about real celebrities/stars (Nancy Reagan, Elizabeth Taylor and OPRAH WINFREY. All of those books saw the light of day. Also, Vanity Fair is allegedly planning an expose on actress Gwyneth Paltrow. And yet Robert's book about a D-list "celebrity" was only released for 2 days? I know (hope) I 'm wrong but are we sure Robert, Kate and Jon are not in cahoots to extend the Gosselin's long since expired 15 mins. of fame?

Tucker's Mom said...

jolie Jacquelyn said... 3
OT

I'd like a really good turkey soup recipe.

I've tried making it, & it always seem to be missing a certain something. I use the carcass & add in noodles & leftover turkey, but still not a lot of flavour. Any hints?
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Start with a mirepoix of chopped onions, celery and carrots and saute in olive oil, and even a bit of butter if you'd like, for about 6-8 minutes.
Season with salt and pepper (hold back a little, you'll be doing this again later).
Add herbs. Dried thyme works nicely. I used dried tarragon today, just because it struck my fancy. I then added fresh lemon juice (brightness!), a knob of fresh ginger and a good bay leaf.
I ended with adding chopped turkey, turkey stock and cooked rice.
Simmer low 30 minutes.
Season to taste.

This is your basic approach to building flavors in a soup; it's a layering effect.

getofftwitter said...

Jolie Jacq: try putting in chicken soup base, seasonings, any old spices, like Kate does any crap that is laying around, put in there(if you are following the Kate way of soup & cooking). PS: caution: don't try this at home! Just kidding! LOLOLOL!

Seriously, put in veggies, a veggie soup cube, like 1-2, or some salt a teaspoon or 2. Or a can or half a carton of turkey broth or veggie broth, then skip the salt. You can even use season salt, some garlic(if you like garlic). This is all to taste, not to go overboard with, especially if you have to watch your salt intake. Cilantro, or parsley, parsnip, carrots, celery, onions, will give it more flavor. Then your noodles. Good luck.

lukebandit said...

She has lost her mind. Filing ANOTHER lawsuit? Wow. She loves to spend the kids money. If she files for copyright infringement, that means that the things written in her journals are TRUE. Why would she go to the trouble of copyrighting LIES?

Did she not hear about the horrors of discovery when they were trying to get her to drop the suit? She will have to go through discovery in this lawsuit. There is no way around it. Is she just filing to be filing then get things in a frenzy and then drop? Why is she spending her children's money.

The only way the kids can get any money is sue the heck out of TLC for taking their childhoods and allowing their parents to sign their childhoods away for money, mega millions. They deserve to be compensated for that at least. Also drive the point across that the shooting schedule took them out of school, no time for after school activities for all the children.

Even the Andy Griffith show scheduled their filming schedule around or film a show that he was not in, so that Opie could play baseball, sports, games and be a normal kid. Those days are gone. It is all about the money.

This reminds me of OJ's IF I DID IT.

kate must want the journals so she can write a book called:

Kate Gosselin: IF I DID IT, THIS IS HOW I WOULD DO IT
Abuse of The Children and The Animals
IF I DID IT, UM UHH NOT SAYING I DID
by kate Gosselin
Forwards by Joan Crawford and Michael Pearl

Disclaimer: If I did it, this is how I would do it, does not mean it actually happened. Please do not look at the Man behind the Curtain.

Just heard this as I wrote this post. From Franklin Jentzen and Bobby Burnett, Love a Child. Jesus said, Your enemy will dig a ditch for you, but HE will fall into it.

This fits TFW perfectly.

Localyocul said...

Seems to me the copyrite stuff was TLCs. How can she sue about her diary? Did she copywrite them?

Localyocul said...

That's what I get for posting before refreshing. So it's about her books? Meh

prairiemary said...

I have a feeling that Robert's new book will never get published, and TFW, who seems to be teflon, will get away with every nasty and mean thing she has ever done to those 8 kids, and to other people. Sometimes bad people continue going thru life without any consequences, never having to answer to anything, never paying the price for the wrong things they have done. I just hope she remembers who she will have to answer to some day. As for the twins staying close to her side, being her little cheerleaders in all she does, well that may change fairly quickly. When my 3 daughters were around the age of 12-14, each became "Daddy's girl", their Dad could do no wrong! I know they still loved me, but it was just natural that they turned to their Dad. Lol-I was still the parent who did all of the work for them, while all he had to do was spend time with him! I think most daughters got thru this stage, and I bet Jon's daughters will be the same with him. Then lookout, TFW will be blowing gaskets!

Vanessa said...

The author Kitty Kelly has written several books about real celebrities/stars (Nancy Reagan, Elizabeth Taylor and OPRAH WINFREY.
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I think it's because those people aren't as bat$#%$ crazy and listened to sound advice. Look at what's going on with Tom Cruise right now.

Kylie said...

I used to agree with you prairie but now I think Kate is getting all the crap she has deserved for so long. Not too much has been going her way lately.

Is there any proof that Kate will be suing Robert or is it just based on something some dumb sheeple spouted? I just can't believe she would admit to the child abuse. But she is the definition of stupid!

Midnight Madness said...

Well, whatever happens in the future, if Robert releases a paper copy of it, I will read it. I'm a cranky ole traditionalist who doesn't read books on Kindles or Nooks or what ever this fangled technology is. I want a book with pages that I can turn LOL.

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LOL, too! My kids asked me what I want for Christmas. They were saying how nice a Kindle would be, that I could download books, so handy. I said no thank you, nice suggestion, but I want books, the kind you can hold in your hand and turn the actual pages. I am so behind on tech stuff!

Marie said...

That leaves her journals to sue under copyright, but then she'd be admitting they are true.
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Is it possible that she might admit to her journals being true in order to stop the book because there is even WORSE stuff that may be revealed by Robert? Would this stop Robert from publishing anything in the future re: TFW?

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

I'm not sure that there is a lawsuit, and if there is I haven't seen anyone of the fans or bullying minions mention it's a lawsuit filed by Kate. The first tweet I saw mentioning it was this one:

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@XXXXXXXX You mean the copyright filing against Hoffman that's coming in a few days?

Rhymes with Witch said...

Is there any proof that Kate will be suing Robert or is it just based
on something some dumb sheeple spouted? 19

From the previous page:

Nwabcan @Nwabcan 8m
@AlWalentis Now we hear #kateplusmy8 may sue 4copyright
infringement.Guess RH didn't call her a baby beater after all. K8
admits it herself!
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This tweet appears to be the origination of this. This person was a poster at RWA.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Rhymes with Witch said... 23
Is there any proof that Kate will be suing Robert or is it just based
on something some dumb sheeple spouted? 19

From the previous page:

Nwabcan @Nwabcan 8m
@AlWalentis Now we hear #kateplusmy8 may sue 4copyright
infringement.Guess RH didn't call her a baby beater after all. K8
admits it herself!
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This tweet appears to be the origination of this. This person was a poster at RWA.
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That isn't the first tweet. That one is from this morning. Last night one of the minion tweeted what I posted above yours.

Call Me Crazy said...

CS said... 168

I seriously doubt the Kate has copyrighted her work, (journal).
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An original work is considered to be copyrighted automatically upon its creation. However, it is difficult to sue for copyright infringement if no notice of copyright appears on the work (e.g., Copyright © 2009 by Kate Gosselin), and especially if the work has not been officially registered with the US Copyright Office.

Also, a certain percentage of copyrighted material is allowed to be used with attribution without it being considered infringement. You can find more information about copyright at http://www.copyright.gov/


i use a kindle said...

Midnight Madness said... 20
Well, whatever happens in the future, if Robert releases a paper copy of it, I will read it. I'm a cranky ole traditionalist who doesn't read books on Kindles or Nooks or what ever this fangled technology is. I want a book with pages that I can turn LOL.

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LOL, too! My kids asked me what I want for Christmas. They were saying how nice a Kindle would be, that I could download books, so handy. I said no thank you, nice suggestion, but I want books, the kind you can hold in your hand and turn the actual pages. I am so behind on tech stuff!
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If you ever get the chance, try to read on one. Just to see what it is like.The screens do look like pages from a book and are not hard on the eyes. You can increase the size of the letters and this is a big plus for me. I like that when I'm out in public the world cannot tell what I'm reading. I like that I can carry several books with me where ever I go.
I go to amazon.com and can preview a book and read almost an entire chapter without paying any money.What I like best is that I can buy a book anytime, anywhere and start reading immediately, even at 2 am in the morning!

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Marie said... 21
''Is it possible that she might admit to her journals being true in order to stop the book because there is even WORSE stuff that may be revealed by Robert?''
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Marie, that is exactly what I was thinking. Robert has said that he only used 10% of the information he found, and he had MUCH more (including photos). In my opinion, TFMJG knows what he has, and is desperate to keep that information from being released!

That hateful AW person is sticking his nose out again, linking to his page and his failed 'book'...he is just beside himself that Robert is still being discussed and he is NOT. Too bad, too sad.

lukebandit said...

Now she is going to possibly file another lawsuit.

Robert, publish the book now, Everything you have, even the Worst of the Worst. The time has come. GO FOR IT!

Even if it stays on Amazon for a week, who cares? At least copies of it will be out there, release the hounds and let the sheeple manure fly!

PA Dutch Mom said...

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 1h
@Kateplusmy8 & do remind ur "smart teens' its ALL because of U that they go 2an excellent school& ur training has made them A+ students! :)

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 2h
@Kateplusmy8 Well, good going MOM! Nice 2see U hold ur OWN against the smarties! Of course, they need 2remember they have ur genes! :)

Oh, Milo, Milo, Milo. Jon played no part whatsoever IF these kids inherited an intelligence gene? It was all Kate because she's so smart? (we won't get into that -- the person who had no idea who was on Mt. Rushmore and thought a generator could be used inside a house). Kate was saying for years that the kids were A+ students when, in fact, letter grades aren't given in lower school. So, Milo, your A+ student thing holds no water.

Let's ask Kate about the Benghazi coverup. She'd probably say that you can buy one at Kohls.

Rhymes with Witch said...

Thanks tweet @ 24. I stand corrected.

@28. That's easy to say, by RH has a family and I imagine a bunch of legal bills already.

PA Law said...

Layla said.....

The sheep are the same. When TFW dropped the charges against Jon, the sheep swore that she did it in exchange for Jon testifying against Robert. Then she ended up dropping the charges against Robert.
All those wild claims TFW and the sheep make, but the passage of time shows them to be lying every time. When will they ever learn?
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Let's not forget that when TFW first filed the suit, they claimed the 20 Does were haterz from PA. One sheeple wanted to know if the DA was notified of the suit. It was made clear over and over again that in a CIVIL suit there are only money damages. No police, no criminal charges, no DA. When TFW dropped the suit against Jon, they said that Mr. Tuma was a good lawyer because he kept Jon out of jail :>O

Thank goodness Pacer is our friend!

Midnight Madness said...

If you ever get the chance, try to read on one. Just to see what it is like

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I did, and I didn't like it. I guess I'm an old dog (well, not THAT old) who can't be taught new tricks. I like the feel of a hard-cover book, the smell of the book, going through the pages, etc. and when I'm finished, it joins the collection on the book shelf.
Of course, I still have my pre-historic cell phone, too.

Lalalalala said...

Let's ask Kate about the Benghazi coverup. She'd probably say that you can buy one at Kohls.

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OMG...I laughed so hard at that one!!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Is there any proof that Kate will be suing Robert or is it just based on something some dumb sheeple spouted?

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Just something a sheeple said. They fancy themselves her personal PR agents. Lord knows why. I think like any good PR person they now and again put out "feelers". This may be just that, a feeler. To use our reactions and thoughts and opinions about this idea for a new suit. That way they get to see where the flaws are, where the weaknesses are, how the public reacts. If it's a no go (i.e. we rip it to shreds with how flawed it is) they won't push it on Kate. If it comes through the test period okay, they may contact Kate and push the idea on her. Sad.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Thank goodness Pacer is our friend!

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And a brain!

Layla said...

If this rumored copyright filing is true, then TFW just got herself into a very, very bad situation. She will have to not only prove that this is copyright infringement, but she will also have to admit that the journal entries about beating the kids and abusing the dogs are true. She will also have to admit that she lied about Robert's book being untrue in her previous lawsuit (opening herself up to be sued by Robert and also impeaching herself in the process). If she loses, the book will come back out. If she loses, she will have had to admit to the world that she is a child beater and a liar, and it will be known that she is so vindictive that she will file false charges against someone just for revenge. It's a lose-lose situation for her, no matter what the final ruling is. This is so typical of TFW. Another of her knee-jerk reactions without any thought to the possible outcome.

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 1m
@SamanthaKaren18 @Kateplusmy8 HaHa...good 4U! Self control is a virtue! I know Kate appreciates quiet dinnertime!

Does every single thing in Milo's life revolve around Kate? Good gosh. Even in her response to someone else she has to bring Kate into it. I wonder if those around her don't get sick of it and if they ever tell her to shut the heck up.

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admin said..."To use our reactions and thoughts and opinions about this idea for a new suit. That way they get to see where the flaws are, where the weaknesses are, how the public reacts. If it's a no go (i.e. we rip it to shreds with how flawed it is) they won't push it on Kate. If it comes through the test period okay, they may contact Kate and push the idea on her. Sad."

True. It's ironic, though, how to have to test the waters with the non-fans considering that they think that we are so incredibly stupid! They couldn't possibly discuss any of that on their own. They couldn't even figure out that Jon didn't cave on the lawsuit, and they still think that , one could receive a prison sentence if found "guilty" in a civil court proceeding.

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 8m
@SamanthaKaren18 @Kateplusmy8 That was a very kind/considerate thing 2do! She is appreciative of supporters but everyone wants 2eat N peace!

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But does she appreciate Gladys butting into her business on a regular basis? I mean, come on...

Robert, if you know who or what this person (paid pr?) is, spill!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Is it possible that she might admit to her journals being true in order to stop the book because there is even WORSE stuff that may be revealed by Robert? Would this stop Robert from publishing anything in the future re: TFW?

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Maybe, but she's got such a huge fair use problem here. She chose to be a celebrity. As such she's fair game to criticize, and copyright law allows some pretty generous leeway with criticism. Once again, she did this to herself.

Rhymes with Witch said...

Once again, she did this to herself. 39

But twf and the sheeple swear it's all Jon's fault!

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

According to one of the bully boys, the lawsuit has already been filed and should be on PACER in the next couple of days. So there's no PR work going on to get a feel for how another lawsuit would go over.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


According to one of the bully boys, the lawsuit has already been filed and should be on PACER in the next couple of days. So there's no PR work going on to get a feel for how another lawsuit would go over.

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Not necessarily at all. They could have just said that to make this idea seem very legit, otherwise it might just be brushed off as nonsense. Who knows.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Another thing is how do they know when it will show up on PACER? PACER thus far has been very unpredictable. Some things show up right away, others are quite late.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

She is appreciative of supporters but everyone wants 2eat N peace!

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Oh yeah poor Kate she can't even eat a bite without being swarmed.

Absurd. This is not the case for her or the vast majority of celebs.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

I'm merely going by what I've read on Twitter. It was said that it was filed Friday, but PA doesn't have e-filing. Personally, I'm not sure this is anything but deflection.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Were the courts even open Friday to file something?? Ours were dark (closed).

And the judge hasn't even signed off on the lawsuit dismissal pursuant to Rule 41. I would think you want to be sure the judge has signed on the dotted line before you plunge into your next suit, especially with Rule 41 being questionable here. If the judge says no to this dismissal they'll have to deal with that one first.

Sadie said...

The bully boy and his fangurls who are talking about the new lawsuit for copyright infringement are the same ones who warned something big was coming August 26th, which turned out to be the first lawsuit. That's why people are giving them a little more credibility than usual.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Yeah, I was wondering whether the judge had signed off on the other lawsuit.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

t is still her intellectual property that he published without her permission. That is the bottom line.

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Actually the bottom line is a woman who has spent the last seven years selling herself as a perfect parent and mother was exposed as a child abuser. Because she has decided to "sell" good motherhood, that is a matter of public concern, whether you are interested in her diaries or it is private or not. And, if she threw them out in the garbage, it is not private no matter how much Kate thinks it is. It's fair game. You strip away privacy the second you throw anything in the trash in PA. Don't like it, shred your documents.

Substantial portions of the Penn State scandal were all "private" including substantial written documents. That was not the bottom line. The bottom line was a public figure was a child abuser, and that needed to be exposed, copyright or not. You would get nowhere trying to cry copyright in that mess.

Crying copyright and anything else is going to be a tough sell in court under these circumstances. We saw that very thing happen this time around, she got nowhere. She is not a sympathetic figure and matters of public concern weigh very heavily against copyright. I still think the contracts are a bigger problem since those were not "necessary" to know, not most clauses anyway. With the exception of a few clauses that talked about the kids and their hours and payment, the rest was not relevant to the public concern and that would weigh more in favor of copyright protections. But since Lane and TLC have most likely decided it's just time to move on, I doubt that will ever be a lawsuit.

Insert Creative Username Here said...

It looks like either Jon doesn't have the kids for the weekend, or at least Mady decided to stay with TFW:

Samantha Lutz ‏@SamanthaKaren18 3h
Kate Gosselin just smiled at me and I talked to Mady about a little boy in chipotle. Trying not to freak out #BestDayEver #fangirl

TFW must get gift cards from Chipotle. She's always taking the kids there!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Sadie, yes I remember that. Although this time around it doesn't make as much sense since this first lawsuit isn't even squared away yet. How do these folks know this? Is Kate leaking this info to some fans then letting them drop hints like this? She sure is cowardly. If you are going to file a lawsuit, why not put your big girl pants on and say so?

Barbara M. said...

prairiemary said "TFW, who seems to be teflon, will get away with every nasty and mean thing she has ever done".

I disagree. What is the one thing Kate desperately wants more than anything, something she wakes up dreaming about every morning (according to her interview with the Toronto Star)? Another shot at TV stardom - another reality show, or a talk show, or even a cooking show. Well, her nastiness and meanness are so well-known that nobody wants to watch her on TV. She is helpless to stop her slide into obscurity. She reminds me of someone who is falling down a cliff - now and then she can grab something to slow her slide, but then she loses her grasp and keeps on falling.

Sadie said...

Bullyville was feeding them information about the original lawsuit. It doesn't make as much sense that BV would be involved in this lawsuit, only because I imagine Kate & BV having a falling out because well, it's those two and because Razzy is nowhere to be seen. Who knows. I guess we'll just see.

PA Law said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 49
t is still her intellectual property that he published without her permission. That is the bottom line.

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Actually the bottom line is a woman who has spent the last seven years selling herself as a perfect parent and mother was exposed as a child abuser. Because she has decided to "sell" good motherhood, that is a matter of public concern, whether you are interested in her diaries or it is private or not. And, if she threw them out in the garbage, it is not private no matter how much Kate thinks it is. It's fair game. You strip away privacy the second you throw anything in the trash in PA. Don't like it, shred your documents.
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Admin and legal eagles, can you provide some insight to the "Unclean Hands Doctrine." The way I understand it is someone, say... the sheeple for example, can't sue the non-fans for harrassment because their hands are unclean as well. Would Robert have any relief under this doctrine?

Millicent said...

Midnight Madness said... 20

Well, whatever happens in the future, if Robert releases a paper copy of it, I will read it. I'm a cranky ole traditionalist who doesn't read books on Kindles or Nooks or what ever this fangled technology is. I want a book with pages that I can turn LOL.

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LOL, too! My kids asked me what I want for Christmas. They were saying how nice a Kindle would be, that I could download books, so handy. I said no thank you, nice suggestion, but I want books, the kind you can hold in your hand and turn the actual pages. I am so behind on tech stuff!
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I prefer actual paper books as well. I can wander through my local thrift stores and find books I want to read for $1 or maybe even less. I can go to my local library and get the latest books for free. I'm cheap! I don't want to pay for Kindle books. One thing I do like about Kindle is that you can make the font larger, so if you are needing cheaters (like I do), that's certainly helpful.

Millicent said...

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said... 41

According to one of the bully boys, the lawsuit has already been filed and should be on PACER in the next couple of days. So there's no PR work going on to get a feel for how another lawsuit would go over.
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The same was said about the supposed class action suit "filed" by BV against the "haterz" -- which turned out to be non-existent. I will only believe a new lawsuit has been filed, when I see actual proof that one has been filed. A tweet is just a tweet.

Sleepless In Seattle said...

I will only believe a new lawsuit has been filed, when I see actual proof that one has been filed. A tweet is just a tweet.

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...a sigh is just a sigh. The fundamental things apply, as tweets go by...

Unknown said...

Millicent said... 56
''.... I will only believe a new lawsuit has been filed, when I see actual proof that one has been filed. A tweet is just a tweet.''
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I agree. First, the dismissal against Robert must be approved by the Judge, THEN when we see actual proof, we will know the truth. I think that they're just tweeting to hear their heads rattle and trying to get others in an uproar!

I own a kindle said...

I prefer actual paper books as well. I can wander through my local thrift stores and find books I want to read for $1 or maybe even less. I can go to my local library and get the latest books for free. I'm cheap! I don't want to pay for Kindle books. One thing I do like about Kindle is that you can make the font larger, so if you are needing cheaters (like I do), that's certainly helpful.
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I have a kindle but still visit the used book store and regular book store. Just so you know, there are hundreds of free books on amazon.com (or .01 books) that be put on the kindle- all the classics are free- Little Women, Heidi, Jayne Eyre, Pride and P etc, Alice in Wonderland etc. Popular authors may also have one or two of their books available at an extra low cost, lower than the stores= maybe 99 cents to 2 dollars. I get those.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

You can also get kindle books through many libraries. New ones, there's just usually a short wait. I have Gone Girl, Rush to Glory, and Waiting to be Heard on my kindle app right now all free. I'm in a short line for the Book Thief. I heard about this from this blog!

prairiemary said...

When TFW is finally hanging her head in shame, and has stopped twitter and other communications with her sheeple, only then will I feel like she has lost. Because so far she acts like nothing can fase her. Happy Happy, JOY JOY bullcrap. JMO.

Dmasy said...

Re: Learning things on this blog. I am watching "We Need To Talk About Kevin" on Encore right now.

Wouldn't know about the book or the movie if not for the ladies here.

Tiny review -- I think the movie would be very hard to understand if you had not read the book first.

OrangeCrusher1 said...

It looks like either Jon doesn't have the kids for the weekend, or at least Mady decided to stay with TFW:

Samantha Lutz ‏@SamanthaKaren18 3h
Kate Gosselin just smiled at me and I talked to Mady about a little boy in chipotle. Trying not to freak out #BestDayEver #fangirl

No, it looks more like they came home at the end of a holiday weekend with their dad, and mommy dearest treated them to yet another dinner at Chipotle. Nothing says loving like something from a grifted gift card.

NJGal51 said...

#ilovemykindle!

I subscribe to bookbub.com. I put my preferences in and get a daily email with books I might be interested in for free or very low prices. I've gotten many great deals through bookbub. I've got a cover on the kindle so it's like holding a book. And the best thing of all? If I fall asleep while reading in bed I'm not going to get a bloody nose and black eye if it hits me in the face like I did while reading The Dome.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 60
You can also get kindle books through many libraries. New ones, there's just usually a short wait. I have Gone Girl, Rush to Glory, and Waiting to be Heard on my kindle app right now all free. I'm in a short line for the Book Thief. I heard about this from this blog!
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I'm reading The Book Thief now, almost finished. It is beautifully written. I might have to buy it just to have it to read again. What a writer! Wow.

Bitchy Pants said...

I love books. I love the feel of them, the smell of them, the look of them. I go to thrift stores and buy books, I stop at yard sales to look at books, I bring bags of books home from the Friends of the Library Sale, and I borrow books from the library. My car knows the location of each and every book store in the area and heads there automatically ;>) . I also own 2 Kindles -- an early second gen. with WiFi only and a 3rd gen. Kindle Keyboard with free 3G plus WiFi. I recently acquired a Kindle Fire. I wasn't sure about getting an ereader at first, but now you will have to pry my Kindle from my cold dead hands. It's wonderful to be able to travel and have a number of books at my finger tips without having a suitcase full of books to drag along. If the weather is bad or I'm sick and can't get out, I can go online and find something to read. As others have said, there are any number of free books available plus many inexpensive ones. Books that have been out of print for years are now being released on Kindle.

NJGal -- bookbub has some good listings, but the site I've found most helpful and comprehensive is www.freereadfeed.com. They're updated regularly, list hundreds of free books, and can be sorted by genre. They don't have a daily news letter sent to your email, you have to go online to their site, but they are the best. I know of at least 10 different places that list free books -- many of them with daily email notices. If Admin says it's okay, I'll post all the links here.

Dmasy said...

I have the earliest (least expensive) version of Kindle. It has served me well for years and has actually come to feel like a "real" book. The recent changes in airline rules that allow me to read during take off and landing make me travel happy.

NJ Gal, The Dome was the reason why I got a Kindle!

My son just gifted me a book that would lose charm on a Kindle. It is colorful and artistic.

Hyperbole and a Half by Allie Brosch. She has a blog site that morphed into a real book. Her art is primitively charming and her words dance with humor and insight.





reader said...

I believe the "talk" about threatening another lawsuit, this time on copyright infringement, began with TFW.
I cannot fathom an attorney putting themselves that close to defending her journal, defending her "right" to own those words. And certainly not in a civil matter. What attorney would risk such a case?

How do you separate the abusive behavior from the right to keep it secret? And again she did not do anything to protect her words that day (out for the trash) or in the many years since.

Certainly in my mind does not keep within the spirit of copyright protection.

Again this is so convoluted, (which makes me believe she wants to do it) that you would use copyright law to protect something written how long ago? And something that you left unprotected, in fact you gave it away to the trash man without destroying it.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I just came across this in the Sarah Palin recap when I was looking for something else. Remember that scene where Sarah Palin takes Kate to a shooting range? Kate then turns to the camera and says she understands people having guns and that she would do anything to protect her children INCLUDING using a GUN.

Baw-hhahaha. What a hypocrite. She and her sheeple implied they wanted Jon's parental rights stripped when he used his gun when someone entered his private property and he had warned them to leave. Someone should remind her of her previous thoughts on gun control.

JoyinVirginia said...

OT weekend movie reviews.
We saw Dallas Buyers Club with Matthew mcConahey, Jennifer Garner, and Jared Leto. Wonderful movie, terrific acting, but very raw and gritty. based on true story of a redneck with AIDS in the mid eighties and his search for ways to survive. Very surprising, I dragged dh and he enjoyed it. there will be Oscar nominations for the acting in this film.
Dd saw Catching Fire, hunger games sequel, and loved it. That is on my list but I have some live performances on the list this week

Insert Creative Username Here said...

OrangeCrusher1 said... 63
No, it looks more like they came home at the end of a holiday weekend with their dad, and mommy dearest treated them to yet another dinner at Chipotle. Nothing says loving like something from a grifted gift card.

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Ohhhh good point! With Thursday and Friday off, my days are all mixed up. I must have thought last night was Saturday night. :) I stand corrected.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Kate tweeted Milo last night that she so loves the quote "Winners are not those who never fail but those who never quit."

And there we go again with the stupid and stubborn and juvenile never quit mentality.

Some things you SHOULD quit. For instance, you should quit going after your ex four years after you split, rather you should try to move on. There's also no shame in quitting something that turns out to be a bad fit for you, such as a job, hobby, or sport. Sometimes things come up with your family in your personal life that require you to quit something, and that's okay too if it means your family will be better off. For instance maybe you signed up for three church committees and now you realize you're exhausted and never home. No shame in quitting one or two of them and reprioritizing. Folks will understand.

Or, you may need to quit a hobby like running because you don't know enough about it yet or you're hurting your health.

I just don't get this never quit thing. I think it puts unnecessary guilt on people who are at a crossroads where quitting is a good choice for them. Rather, I would like a quote that says there is no shame in quitting if that decision is right for you and your family, your health and happiness. Quit with your head held high.

TLC stinks said...

I believe Kate will fight Robert tooth and French nail to stop his book being published. She will never walk away from this. I agree if she were to sue him for copyright infringement, then she'd have to admit the journal is true. I think Robert probably reached some agreement with TLC and any other corporations not to print actual contracts, but he surely can publish what they contain as long as they are not published word for word.

I believe she was totally alone for Thanksgiving. Steve has probably shifted his sights on other endeavors, but as long as she continues to pay his fees, he will be there for her.

I think that picture of the bird on top of her head was taken when she first got the bird. Cagily she posted it like one of the kids took the picture over Thanksgiving break. Wow, nothing like a bird, not house trained, sitting on top your head with sharp beak and claws.

I noticed on her Twitter that the Twitter bots are exclaiming joy over purchasing her cookbook. Funny. She should be embarrassed about how poorly it has sold. Not her, not ever.

Mel said...

Will she be able to toy with Robert the rest of his life? Just to torment him?
By filing lawsuit after lawsuit and then withdrawing them without prejudice at the last minute so that she can keep on filing something, anything?
Anybody know?

Anonymous said...

She quit nursing.

Midnight Madness said...

Ohhhh good point! With Thursday and Friday off, my days are all mixed up. I must have thought last night was Saturday night. :) I stand corrected.

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lol~~ I did the same thing. I thought Saturday was Monday! I was totally screwed up. I was looking for something in the television listings and couldn't figure out why it wasn't there!

wowser said...

my ipad never lets me post...stuck on google acct...OY!

saw the Book Thief yesterday -wonderful movie!! bring tissues

TFW hates people that chew with their mouth open - does she NOT watch her own videos?? what a tool

Bird is TOTAL deflection - and I feel bad for the bird.

Robert will NOT go down without a fight - I believe his book will be out soon. TFW only has 1 more nail to drag down the wall to hold on.

Being a grandmother is the most awesome thing ever!!!

chefsummer #Leh said...

Flight of the Kiwi said... 75
She quit nursing.
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She quite being a good wife-(not that she was 1 to began with).
She quite being a good sister/daughter/family member.
She failed a having a TV show not once but three times-(lol's)
She Failed to win her BS lawsuits.

Mel said...

She quit her marriage. Didn't even try to work on it.

She quit camping with Sarah Palin. And bitched the whole time she *was* there.

She quit running marathons.

TLC stinks said...

Mel, she is not stable and I believe she will toy with Robert and Jon as long as she lives. She can't cut Jon out of the kids' lives like she did with the other relatives and I agree that Robert has reached the point of no return with her. Very ugly for those kids.

And if Steve walks out of her life, it will be a replay of a Lifetime movie for him and his family.

Tucker's Mom said...

TLC stinks said... 80
Mel, she is not stable and I believe she will toy with Robert and Jon as long as she lives.
*****
At some point, doesn't that become harassment? To put someone through frivolous litigation and constant threats has to have some sort of recourse, I'd think?

Not a Robert Fan said...

Mel said... 74
Will she be able to toy with Robert the rest of his life? Just to torment him?
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He began toying with her and tormenting her with his creepy blog warnings long before any lawsuits were involved.

chefsummer #Leh said...

She failed at getting another show on her own.

chefsummer #Leh said...

prairiemary said "TFW, who seems to be teflon, will get away with every nasty and mean thing she has ever done".
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Maybe she can re-wear her aluminum foil dress to her future lawsuit.

JoyinVirginia said...

Quote from Steve Jobs biography by Walter Isaacson: ” One of Jobs great strengths was knowing how to focus. 'Deciding what NOT to do is as important as deciding what to do. That's true for companies and its true for products.'”
And its true for people. Do what you are good at, don't do what you have no talent for or are not prepared to work hard to achieve.
Don't spend time and money on things that are negative or hateful or vengeful. Spend time doing something positive for yourself or your community.

Mel said...

she is not stable and I believe she will toy with Robert and Jon as long as she lives.
*****
At some point, doesn't that become harassment?


That's what I was thinking....

Flo said...

Kate not only chomps on gum and food with her mouth open, she also talks with food in her mouth. Every one of "the nine" eats hunched over their food with their elbows on the table, stabbing away. Who's she trying to kid? I don't blame the kids; manners are only reinforced when they're with Jon.

Millicent said...

Sleepless In Seattle said... 57

I will only believe a new lawsuit has been filed, when I see actual proof that one has been filed. A tweet is just a tweet.

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...a sigh is just a sigh. The fundamental things apply, as tweets go by...
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LOL - but I hate to add that touch of class to anything associated with TFW :)

I love that movie classic. Do you think Humphrey Bogart could ever be as successful a movie star in today's society? They guy looked like he would weigh in at 130, soaking wet!

Millicent said...

Thank you "I Own a Kindle," for the info on free/low cost Kindle books :)

Millicent said...

"Winners are not those who never fail but those who never quit."
*****
To the former Mrs. Gosselin:

Before you can applaud yourself for not quitting, you need to actually be working hard to accomplish something.

Tweeting away the day; or continually begging for another shot at a tv show, does not meet that criteria.

Millicent said...

Mel said... 74

Will she be able to toy with Robert the rest of his life? Just to torment him?
By filing lawsuit after lawsuit and then withdrawing them without prejudice at the last minute so that she can keep on filing something, anything?
Anybody know?
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Mel, there are indeed some people who do such a thing, called vexatious litigation.

Per Wikipedia:
Vexatious litigation is legal action which is brought, regardless of its merits, solely to harass or subdue an adversary. It may take the form of a primary frivolous lawsuit or may be the repetitive, burdensome, and unwarranted filing of meritless motions in a matter which is otherwise a meritorious cause of action. Filing vexatious litigation is considered an abuse of the judicial process and may result in sanctions against the offender.

A single action, even a frivolous one, is usually not enough to raise a litigant to the level of being declared vexatious. Repeated and severe instances by a single lawyer or firm can result in eventual disbarment.
Some jurisdictions have a list of vexatious litigants: people who have repeatedly abused the legal system. Because lawyers could be disbarred for participating in the abuse, vexatious litigants are often unable to retain legal counsel, and such litigants therefore represent themselves in court. Those on the list are usually either forbidden from any further legal action or are required to obtain prior permission from a senior judge before taking any legal action.

Hope that info is helpful :)

Vanessa said...

@ Not a Robert Fan
How do we know that his taunting didn't come from her threatening to sue? She knew about the journal being in his hands for years. I don't believe the lawsuit was the first time she "tried" to take him down-he just didn't buckle. His "taunts" were a "right back at you!"

Vanessa said...

She quit eating

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Mel, there are indeed some people who do such a thing, called vexatious litigation.

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I think SLAPP statutes are basically a way to make this very thing illegal.

Connie said...

Flight of the Kiwi said... 75
She quit nursing.
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She quite being a good wife-(not that she was 1 to began with).
She quite being a good sister/daughter/family member.
She failed a having a TV show not once but three times-(lol's)
She Failed to win her BS lawsuits.
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She also quit a website or two, her little coupon thing, her former self, when she was almost human back then, she quit being a wife, she quit running, she quit being a barefoot and tee-shirt mom, she quits lots of things. What the heck?

SallyFromCali said...

If anyone is interested in purchasing The Book Thief for their Kindle it's only $2.49 at Amazon. You can't beat that!! I just purchased it and am really looking forward to reading it. I plan on seeing the movie too!!

Formerly Duped said...

SallyFromCali said... 96

That looks good but I saw it on Amazon and thought it was a kids' book? If not, I will order it!

JoyinVirginia said...

OT: something to brighten your day
Http://news.vcu.edu/A-special-brand-of-medicine

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

She also quit a website or two, her little coupon thing, her former self, when she was almost human back then, she quit being a wife, she quit running,

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She still has the coming events up from two years ago -- never updated those, and the "inspiration" still says "Coming Soon." Even with all of those insane platitudes tweeted to her, I guess nothing inspired her.

Amy2 said...

I was thinking about what she *didn't* quit.
--She didn't quit using her children for her own goals (photos, tweets)
--She didn't quit buying new a shiny toy for herself (bird, car)
--She didn't quit bashing Jon
--She didn't quit grifting for (fill in the blank)

Math Girl said...

JoyinVirginia ...98

The link in your post didn't work for me, but I found the article at:
http://news.vcu.edu/article/A_special_brand_of_medicine

sparkle said...

Kate needs to worry less about lawsuits, tweeting and blabbering about not being a quitter and worry more about her children.

I had forgotten about this poem Robert found, written by one of the twins. He wrote that he keeps the paper it was written on in his office, as a constant reminder for why he does this.

I've been hoping for a black Christmas, just like the ones I never knew. Where the bush bottoms glisten, and A-dults ignore, to hear sleigh bells in the rain. I've been hoping for a black Christmas, with every Christmas card I receive. May your days be sa-ad and dark. And may all your Christmases be black.

high sodium content said...

Anyone have the feeling Robert Hoffman was just playing everyone? He'll not re-release the book, he's not going to out any Kate "fans". He's been toying with Kate. He's got nothing new to say. He's most likely done with her?

I wonder what the next "stunt" will be that she'll pull to get some attention. Nothing seems to work, don't think she even hit the 1,200 mark on book sales. All goes back to how lazy she really is. She's just looking for an easy way to make a few thousand bucks.

Rhymes with Witch said...

@ 103
I don't know about the rest, but Robert never said anything about outing fans, to the best of my knowledge.

getofftwitter said...

Flo: Poor kids, they eat that way, cause, probably afraid, Kate will take food from them and/or other kids will take their food. Since, Kate likes to control how much they eat. I don't buy they BS that Kate has left overs, Kate make just enough, so there is no left overs or second helpings. If there is, it's probably something the kids don't like, that Kate concocted, in the pot, with anything she can grab and toss in the pot. Reminds me of Cher's character in Mermaids. That is why they have bad manners.

Those kids probably fight over the food, we actually saw a little bit of that on CWS, with the tacos, the kids were fighting over who had more, and how messy they got. Geez, they are 9 & 13, should be past making that much mess and watch where they step, and not cry about it. Jon does have his work cut out for him, thanks to Kate.

chefsummer #Leh said...

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 5h
@Kateplusmy8 Happy Monday...glad we R now outta school day! We R sharing a laugh w/U Alexis!! What U say? >>
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She & the kids are out of school??

Layla said...

Okay, I need some clarification from all of you who know more about the law than I do (that would be pretty much everyone). I was reading up on copyright, and intellectual property was listed under copyright. What is the difference? If something isn't specific copyrighted, it can still be protected under copyright as intellectual property. TFW has already tried the intellectual property thing, and now it looks like she might be trying to file the same thing under a different name. Is she (perhaps) just cleaning up the old lawsuit and re-filing it, only changing the name of the charge? Because it looks about the same with regards to TFW's journals. That is, if she is re-filing.

I pulled up the book on my Kindle, and noticed that there was a long passage from MB at the beginning (I only re-read the beginning so far). It was from MB, I believe. Maybe she is claiming copyright for that? But she didn't write that book, Beth did. Those would be Beth's words (Beth's intellectual property), not TFW's, so how can TFW claim that the way someone else expressed ideas is TFW's intellectual property? You can't copyright words, only the specific way they are expressed. They were expressed in that book in Beth's words. And Beth and Jon are both listed as co-authors, so wouldn't they have to cooperate if she wants to sue for copyright for passages used from MB? I'm confused.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Is she talking to Alexis? Huh? Creepy. What is with the fans and Alexis. She draws out the creepiest. Remember the fan who had tattooed Alexis Faith on her arm? Id be running for the hills in Kate's shoes.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Intellectual property is the tangible thing at issue like your book. Copyright is the abstract idea that there is an invisible protection around it that means no one can copy it.

chefsummer #Leh said...

I hope Milo knows that she's not a actual member of the Gosselin family.

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

Is she talking to Alexis? Huh? Creepy. What is with the fans and Alexis. She draws out the creepiest. Remember the fan who had tattooed Alexis Faith on her arm? Id be running for the hills in Kate's shoes.

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That creepy China Vector guy/girl is obsessed with Hannah. Tweets included hot, hot, hot Hannah.

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 5h
@Kateplusmy8 Happy Monday...glad we R now outta school day! We R sharing a laugh w/U Alexis!! What U say? >>

"We" is Milo's way of inserting herself/himself into Kate's family. She's worse than Gladys ever was. I remember the one who was nuts about Alexis and kept saying that she wanted to meet her, she was her favorite, etc. etc. Can't remember her Twitter name, though.

PatK said...

Nicole Gould‏@nicolergould3h
@Kateplusmy8 @Theresacaputo I turn 21 today! Can I get a RT please? :) xo


Kate Gosselin‏@Kateplusmy810m
@nicolergould @Theresacaputo HB to you! SO accomplished in ur young life...ur book is still next2my bed..next chance I get2read,I'm on it!:)

Nicole Gould‏@nicolergould9m
@Kateplusmy8 thank you so much! You will think that even more after u read my book! U mean the world the me! Thx again! Xo

Fired Up 4 Kate‏@MiloandJack7m
@Kateplusmy8 @nicolergould @Theresacaputo Very nice of U Kate...folks have been harassing her...she has stayed on here 2support YOU! :)


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Gladys Kravitz just couldn't keep her nose out of it.

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

And here comes the "author." Apparently Theresa, Snooki and Sarah also mean the world to her! She doesn't only have love for Kate. lol!

Nicole Gould ‏@nicolergould
@Kateplusmy8 when you do read would i be able to get a testimonial from u? Would be amazing!! Would be a great bday present! ;)

Nicole Gould ‏@nicolergould
@Kateplusmy8 thank you so much! You will think that even more after u read my book! U mean the world the me! Thx again! Xo

Nicole Gould ‏@nicolergould
@snooki I turned 21 today! Could I get a RT please?! Would make my day!! :)

Nicole Gould ‏@nicolergould
@SarahMcLachlan was wondering if you would be interested in a copy of my book? I could give it to C to give to you!

Nicole Gould ‏@nicolergould
@Kateplusmy8 @Theresacaputo I turn 21 today! Can I get a RT please? :) xo

Unknown said...

high sodium content said... 103
''Anyone have the feeling Robert Hoffman was just playing everyone? He'll not re-release the book, he's not going to out any Kate "fans". He's been toying with Kate. He's got nothing new to say. He's most likely done with her?.....''
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No, I do not think that Robert is playing everyone. I think he will re-release the book. Robert has a LOT new to say, and I hope he says it.

I really DO think that Robert is toying with TFW, and I love him poking at her and her fans. I hope he pokes and pokes and pokes. I can't think of another person I would enjoy watching him poke than TFW and her nutty fans! Robert won't be done with her till HE says he is done with her, and I sure haven't seen him say any such thing. GO ROBERT! GO ROBERT!

lukebandit said...

How horrible that a "fan" tattooed A.F. on their arm! I would be beside myself if that were my child! kate should be too! No wonder Jon did what he did to protect his children, self and his home against the "pap". Who could blame him!

kate's spew about using a gun to protect her children would not be to protect her children, a gun would be used only to protect her little "ATM's".



Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Luke I think any normal mother would be horrified. Oh what have I done should come to mind.

Susie Cincinnati said...

Nicole Gould ‏@nicolergould
@SarahMcLachlan was wondering if you would be interested in a copy of my book? I could give it to C to give to you!

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Sarah, for the love of all that's holy, thank her, but politely decline. Otherwise, she will be pestering you from here to Kingdom Come for a testimonial!

Amanda, Iowa said...

That Steve Pratt dude that keeps on tweeting to Kate and hitting on her is one creepy & needy kinda guy....gives me the goosebumps. His whole twitter account is hittng up people with weird requests and proposals!

Susie Cincinnati said...

Gladys Kravitz just couldn't keep her nose out of it.

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What would it be like to live with someone like that? Do you just ignore it, or let it build up until one day it all explodes and you really let loose?

Susie Cincinnati said...

xxxxxxxxx
@Kateplusmy8 Do you want Steve Pratt as a boyfriend he said he wants you as a girlfriend

Isn't he that really weird guy? I get them mixed up!

lukebandit said...

Does kate drive one of her luxury vehicles to Chipotle to take herself and the kids or a couple of kids to eat, while eating with those grifted Chipotle gift cards? Does she not have a conscience? No.

I don't have a problem with the kids going, it's just that kate can afford to pay her way for the kids, not grift on twitter for free things like they can't afford nothing. They can't help the way kate is. It is not their fault.

I read that poem and it just saddened me. What a bleak outlook in life about Christmas. Written in that poem is sadness, hopelessness and despair. Even kids that are really poor that have a parent, either single mom or dad have a brighter outlook than this. Some write letters to Santa at the North Pole which they don't know actually winds up at the local Post Office dead letter office which hopefully they will be adopted by Secret Santa's to fulfill the child's wishes.

Every Post Office in the U.S. has them. The kids rarely ask for anything for themselves! They ask for things for their parent, and or their siblings. So unselfish and beautiful! Sacrificing something from themselves to hoping Santa would bring something for their loved ones.

This would be a great project for a church youth group to be involved in.

chefsummer #Leh said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 116
Luke I think any normal mother would be horrified. Oh what have I done should come to mind.
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KK not a normal mother and she doesn't care what her actions do to her children.

PatK said...

Just want to say "ditto" to Remona's comment (114).

Sadie said...

Remona, I love your enthusiasm and unwavering support for Robert. I feel the exact same way. Poke away!

Dwindle said...

chefsummer said... 110
I hope Milo knows that she's not a actual member of the Gosselin family.

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No, I dont think she does. Even during her mental commercial breaks, she is filming adverts with all the G kids on her lap with Star Kate nuggling up to her. With all 10 of them Showing Their Happy Teeth for the cameras.

Shudder. (Or as Kate says *Shutter*).

NJGal51 said...

When I read that "Black Christams" poem all that I see is a kid writing an "opposite". Maybe even a school assignment. Maybe it's just me but I don't see anything more than that.

Dwindle said...

She didnt quit beating her infants.
She didnt (and cant) quit spending their money.
She doesnt quit feeling entitled.
She doesnt quit ACTING superior and entitled.
She doesnt quit being driven by rage and hate.
She doesnt quit deliberately ignoring the FACT that she *faithfully requires* serious mental health treatment and medical care.

lukebandit said...

Admin, I believe she condones and justifies the crazy fan behavior because in her mentally ill mind it is just fine because look at ALL the money, fame, trips, luxuries, help, Steve, teevee time she has received since the conception of her master plan to get the world to pay for her birthin' HOM's!

What a high price to pay for fame! Those children need our prayers for a hedge of protection beyond comprehension.

I would be scared to death about the tattoo and the one fan obsessed about H.

Remona, ITA about Robert. I think the things that he has poked her with on GBB have been nothing but brilliant. You just got served. I have watched it a couple of times and lol everytime. Remember, kate started this whole mess. Robert had all the stuff and didn't intend for it to see the light of day, but kate kept poking and poking and poking until Robert didn't have a choice. But he only printed about 10 percent of what he had. He also warned the POKER that if he was called a liar or taken to court and sued he would release the whole shebang, including pictures. It is her own fault and her fault only. Not Jon's, hers.

I believe he will print The Book as soon as the judge signs the papers and the lawsuit is over, should be very soon. She is just filing this new one as a stall tactic, and I can't believe she got the same lawyer or a new one to take the case.

I watched an episode of Gunsmoke today and there was a guy with 3 other guys they robbed a bank and got away with 10K. The guy holding the money was able to hide it from the other guys and he got caught and went to prison for eight years. For the first couple of years, he would think about what he was going to do with the money, buy and things. Then about the end of his sentence, he started thinking about getting a piece of land, planting seed and working a farm, having something and a woman in the kitchen, humming. Humming, you say? Yes, he said that a woman humming in the kitchen was happy, cooking, cleaning raising the kids and truly happy being a wife and he wanted that. He said it was NOT WORTH the money to spend 8 years in prison, to live in prison when he could of been married, having children and living a decent, upstanding life.

Wish kate would get that through her thick skull, get help, good mental health help and let the kids be kids in the last few years of their childhood instead of slave manual labor robots.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Admin, I believe she condones and justifies the crazy fan behavior because in her mentally ill mind it is just fine because look at ALL the money, fame, trips, luxuries, help, Steve, teevee time she has received since the conception of her master plan to get the world to pay for her birthin' HOM's!

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I think she also views a lot of this creepy behavior as cute, funny, amusing, interesting. Instead of creepy and in some cases horrifying.

Unknown said...

lukebandit said... 128
''......I believe he will print The Book as soon as the judge signs the papers and the lawsuit is over, should be very soon. She is just filing this new one as a stall tactic, and I can't believe she got the same lawyer or a new one to take the case.....''
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Wait a minute, lukebandit. Her 'fans' say she has filed a new lawsuit, but we've not seen the Judge ok her dismissal of the one she continued against Robert when the Judge approved the one she dismissed against Jon (with prejudice). I think I'll wait till we see her dismissal of the one against Robert approved by the Judge before I'll start worrying about a new one someone or the other says she has filed! I don't think she has filed a new one, if you ask me. But that is just me.....being contrary and a Robert Hoffman lover! I'll say it again...Poke at her again Robert....GO ROBERT! GO ROBERT! GO ROBERT, GO!!

AuntieAnn said...

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8 3h
Learning meaning of being 'zookeepers':bAfter feeding my 8 kids,we all go in2 dog,parrot,fish,frogs &chicken feeding mode. #lotsofmouthshere

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Aw you poor thing. You're probably exhausted after making a longer chore list for your kids.

#lotsofbullshithere

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Frogs? Since when do they have frogs now too? My-lanta.

This is totally a set up. Make things as wild and crazy as possible then cry that you have to piece and patch and that you can't raise eight kids without a ton of freebies it's too much just for you.

Lots of kids have to deal with only be allowed one pet or none at all during this recession. If she really is piecing and patching then everything has to go but Shoka and maybe some of the chickens IF it's breaking even at minimum, otherwise gone.

Dr. Katelittle angling for a new show perhaps? I can just imagine how many email pitches she sends out.

Andrea said...

Can TFW drop one lawsuit because its not going to end in her favor and then start another one in hopes that Robert wont have the money for the legal processes? If she did file another one, then wont the judge see through this BS?

How long would it normally take for a judge to sign off on a simple dismissal? I am not saying that this is a simple dismissal, I would just like to know an actual time frame from those in the legal field.

Meh said...

NJGal51 said... 126
When I read that "Black Christams" poem all that I see is a kid writing an "opposite". Maybe even a school assignment. Maybe it's just me but I don't see anything more than that.
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I thought the same things too. I thought it was a kid being funny/creative and trying to use opposite words. That's all.

fidosmommy said...

I agree that the Christmas poem is nothing more than a creative exercise.

Layla said...

GO ROBERT!!!
Add me to the list of Robert-lovin' ladies. TFW deserves everything she gets from him, and he is one person who is in a position to dish a little attitude back at her. And he's the one person who has never backed down and never allowed her to bully him into submission. I'm sure she's saying, "I just don't get it!!!" when she contemplates her failure to shut him up. Good.

Adm,in, I also think that she's using the excessive number of pets to angle for a enw show. An excessive number of kids got her a show before, so why not a plethora of pets? Anything to get some attention. I'm betting she is jsut furious at all the articles about the lawsuit dismissal, and nothing about her new bird. Jus tlike Milo said, the world is supposed to be marveling over the Gs getting a bird, not over the lawsuit. In her mind, the filing was supposed to be the big news, and her dropping the charges was supposed to be overlooked. She thought she could re-direct attention onto Zorro, and it didn't work.

As far as piecing and patching, it's obious that she has piles of money stashed away. She just doesn't want to use it. So, she's piecing and patching whatever she can earn or grift so that she doesn't have to touch her stash. She's still loaded.

Vanessa said...

Adm,in, I also think that she's using the excessive number of pets to angle for a enw show.
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Could be, but I don't know...I'm leaning towards some really horrible stuff coming out about the dogs. Robert seemed to have first hand accounts of extreme neglect.

TLC stinks said...

Pets are also being used to blackmail the kids, IMO. She doesn't take care of the animals; the kids do. If the kids aren't around (at Jon's), they know mom won't take care of the animals. I believe she is that messed up.

TLC stinks said...

Yes indeed, Kate socked away plenty of money. Just think of the extra money earned with those product placement contracts. And I am sure she invested plenty of it too ( check out where Gina Neild works). Just do a Google search.

Anyway, she is living high for now, but she is relatively young and with kids in college down the road (none of them appear to be geniuses), she is depleting her cash reserve with no job.

I think Robert will publish but I would guess his attorney wants to clear any hurdles. Because of her ego, she just could not step back and let the whole book mess die down. Now she has allowed Robert to proceed with a much better product and even could snag a movie deal. If Steve has been advising her, he has done a lousy job.

chefsummer #Leh said...

She's still loaded.
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Of course she is we know this and so do her sheep-(rather they admit it or not they have 2 know).

She's still living in that huge house with three cars 50 chickens 1 dog and 1 bird with 8 kids.

She's still taking trips to NY getting her weave fried she still paying Steve and traveling with him.

She's still living the same life style as she did when she was one tv the only difference now is she has no j-o-b & doesn't plan on getting one.-(Unless it's TV of course)

Mel said...

I'm leaning towards some really horrible stuff coming out about the dogs.

That's kind of my thought, too.
Whatever he has, whether kids or dogs, it's ugly and he has proof.

LisaNH said...

TLC stinks said... 139
Because of her ego, she just could not step back and let the whole book mess die down. Now she has allowed Robert to proceed with a much better product and even could snag a movie deal. If Steve has been advising her, he has done a lousy job.
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I think this has been Kate's problem for years, she's been allowing Steve to act as manager and taking his advice on certain endeavors and look where it has gotten her? No where.

I suspect between Steve's bad management and advice and Kate's personality, she's toast when it comes to a career in show biz.

Mel said...

Kate news is dying down....I wonder what she'll do this week to garner some interest.

TLC stinks said...

She was incredibly cruel to Nala and Shoka. People who are cruel to animals are also cruel to people. ITA this whole Mrs Dolittle routine is a preemptive strike because Robert has the goods on her.

She can dress up Shoka with his bandana and snap pictures, but that dog is mostly banished to the outside. Jon knows the truth too. I think he got some undeserved criticism when he returned Shoka snd Nala to the breeder. He did what was best for the animals and to keep the peace with Kate. The thing I did not care for was for Jon to have a pap there to photograph the dogs being taken away. Not understanding what his motivation was unless he was really angry at her.

TLC stinks said...

Right, Lisa. Steve thinks he knows show business just like Kate claims to be a writer. She even claimed to be a producer on her show just because she ordered certain things filmed. I think she was so difficult to deal with that at the end Figure 8 just let her bring herself down. I bet they knew TLC was not going to renew her show.

chickens in the trees said...

TLC stinks said... 138
Pets are also being used to blackmail the kids, IMO. She doesn't take care of the animals; the kids do. If the kids aren't around (at Jon's), they know mom won't take care of the animals. I believe she is that messed up.
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Who takes care of the chickens when the kids are away for the weekend with their dad?

chefsummer #Leh said...

If Steve has been advising her, he has done a lousy job.
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Looks like he's doing a bang up job to me 6yrs later he's still around traveling with her and getting paid to do nothing.

chefsummer #Leh said...

she's toast when it comes to a career in show biz.
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I'm sorry her only go-to was "Look I have 8 kids" beyond this she has/had no talent on her own.

She sucks at all most everything she does. So her go-to is using her children once again.

LisaNH said...

chefsummer said... 147
If Steve has been advising her, he has done a lousy job.
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Looks like he's doing a bang up job to me 6yrs later he's still around traveling with her and getting paid to do nothing.

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Yup, the Queen Grifter getting grifted by Stevo. It's ironic, isn't it? That must be his idea of being her manager, take her money and stand between Kate and her fans to make sure they bother the Diva. Of course that would be all 3 fans that she has so you're right, Chefs, he does do nothing.

wowser said...

i totally agree with Vanessa.....Kate cannot stand animals OR people for that matter who do not tow the line for her exactly as she wants them to. All the animals are a pre-emptive strike because she KNOWS what Robert has on her and she is quickly trying to clean up her tarnished reputation. I think she knows what's coming. We need to look at everything she does through that lens.

This is the first time I have seen this blog on a 6 day run with ONLY 500 or so entries.....TWF is staring to finally sink!!

PatK said...

chickens in the trees said... 146

Who takes care of the chickens when the kids are away for the weekend with their dad?

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I imagine that job falls upon the those children who choose NOT to spend the visitation time with their dad.

OrangeCrusher1 said...

"This is the first time I have seen this blog on a 6 day run with ONLY 500 or so entries.....TWF is staring to finally sink!!"

Agree. Nice to wake up to casual, and infrequent, idle speculation. What, no Thanksgiving feast pictures? Oh right, they really were with their father, and all she could come up with was dinner at Chipotle when they returned. Taking care of the bird all weekend must have been exhausting.

Dmasy said...

I don't need Kate news to enjoy reading posts here. You ladies are great.

She has faded before and then come back with some new silly or stupid move.

Who has already decorated their tree? What is your favorite Christmas classic movie?

What charity do you support during the holiday season?

Who ever captured a frog and made it a pet? My son found a small toad once. He made a habitat in his sandbox and called it "The Toad Abode". I think the toad escaped in quick time!

Rhymes with Witch said...

Maybe it's time for a new topic?

Vanessa said...

Looks like he's doing a BANG up job
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badumbum! :P

TLC stinks said...

I think Steve does do something: he eats his meals with her, carries her purse, makes sure there is a limo to pick them up at the airport, gives fans the stink eye if they try to take a picture (only paps allowed to take pics), and maybe some other duties??? Oh, and makes sure her ta ta's have not deflated.

I cannot imagine Kate setting foot anywhere near those chickens. She probably picked the number 50 because maybe that's how many she needs to claim her property is a farm (?) for tax purposes? You would think she would tweet about taking care of the hens once in a while, right? I wonder if she just totally ignores them when the boys are gone to their dad's. She did just that with the dogs by leaving them in cages in their feces. I don't think she has one shred of empathy for animals.

JoyinVirginia said...

Hey Wowser, yes things have been kinda quiet here. I did enjoy hearing about everyone s Thanksgiving plans, and recipes, and movies people saw. That's what is most interesting and fun about this blog!
TFMJG is oh so predictable and oh so boring and so lacking in insight and family/ friends and work ethic, I could almost feel sorry for her.
Ok, I waited thirty seconds, that feeling passed!

Formerly Duped said...

Dmasy: I so agree with you!

My favorite classic is A Christmas Carol with Alastair Sim... found it frightening as a child but love it.

Plan to get tree tomorrow, prepare today by cleaning, getting the stand and boxes of decorations down from the attic. Always wonderful to see the ornaments- old friends.

Support St Jude's, and various other organizations, and a couple of animal ones too. Donations to women's shelter, food pantry and Give-a-Gift.Also Salvation Army and the like collecting outside stores.

No frog pet- too elusive! I didn't know the G's had frogs?

How about you?

jolie Jacquelyn said...

Dmasy said... 153
I don't need Kate news to enjoy reading posts here. You ladies are great.
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I agree! Also thanks to the ladies for the turkey soup advice. I'll keep the hints in mind after our Christmas bird is finished.

Our tree is in the living room & the decorations are beside it - just need to step away from the computer & get the job done!

localyocul said...

My daughter caught a frog and wanted to make it a pet but then she found out we would have to feed it insects so we set it free down by the creek behind our house. His name is (was? how long do frogs live?) croaker. Hopefully he never came across Jiminy, the cricket she caught to keep as a pet but also set free.

TLC stinks said...

BTW, one thing I really enjoy on the blog are the recipes and book suggestions. I like the straying away from all things Kate.

silimom said...

Regarding the "Black Christmas" poem - I have to agree, I think it was just one of the twins writing the opposite of the traditional song:

I'm dreaming of a white Christmas
I've been hoping for a black Christmas

Just like the ones I knew before
Just like the ones I never knew

Where the tree tops glisten
Where the bush bottoms glisten

And children listen
And A-dults ignore

To hear sleigh bells in the snow
To hear sleigh bells in the rain

I'm dreaming of a white Christmas
I've been hoping for a black Christmas

With every Christmas card I write
With every Christmas card I receive

May your days be better merry and bright
May your days be sa-ad and dark

And may all your Christmases be white
And may all your Christmases be black

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

chefsummer #Leh said...

TLC stinks said... 156

Don't forget he stay in the closet with her when she doesn't want to be bothered.

chefsummer #Leh said...

Cristina Rich ‏@Sienna_Star 3h
@Kateplusmy8 Do u think you would ever get a cat? I'm a cat lover.
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LOL why can I see her getting a cat and then the cat scratching the crap out of her?

Layla said...

Quiet morning spent sitting in a dr's waiting room. I brought my Kindle, and have been reading parts of Robert's book. Some things that stood out (from Chapter 8 -Show Me The Money). First, there are email exchanges between TFW and Jim Ford at Discovery, discussing the contract for the show. In Sept 2006, Jim tells her that the contract is a 5-year contract, which can be renewed if the ratings are good. She signed in Sept 2006 and the show was cancelled in Sept 2011, which is exactly 5 years--the term of the contract. So, it looks like TLC/Discovery decided not to start a new contract with her after the first 5 years ended. That would mean that TFW's claim in Sept 2013 that they are at the very end of their contract is a lie. She was just trying to save face.

Also, there is mention of Aunt Jodi's sister writing in a blog about how the Gs were claiming to be financially destitute and grifting like crazy, but they have a large sum of money (she said it was more than she'd make for a year's work just out of nursing school). That's when J&K said that they shouldn't have to spend their money to suport their family, and said said it's society's obligation to support them ("We have 8 kids"). TFW is still living that way. We know she has loads of cash stashed away, but she's still trying to get society to support them so she doesn't have to spend HER money.

One more thing, if anyone reads over that chapter, take note of the emails between TFW and Kirk Streb. He's apparently a Southerner, writes a lot like Milo does (lots of ... and --), seems to think TFW is wonderful. I'm wondering if he is Milo? Anyone else who has the book, let me know what you think.

LisaNH said...

Dmasy, well, one thing I do every year is making Christmas stockings for the troops overseas. My mother and I made 150 this year but over 2,800 were made in total from the folks at a local organization. We also donate care package items for the troops all year long.

We've already received some photos of the troops who received the stockings. Nothing thrills me more than to see pictures of our troops with big smiles on their faces holding up stockings that were donated from our local organization.

A few years back we received pictures from some kids that were stationed on a remote FOB along on the Pakistan border. The Christmas stockings they received were the only items they were able to get at that remote location before Christmas. I tear up when I look at the pictures. They were so thrilled with their gifts and had such big smiles!! 2 of the stockings I made (that I know of) made it to that base.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 4h
You can only smile when the losers of the world try so hard to put down successful people. Just remember, they all want to be YOU!

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8 1m
@realDonaldTrump I can hear you saying this..and I'm smiling and LOL! :) so true! :)
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Yes, we all want to be Kate in her mind.

Formerly Duped said...

I like the book suggestions, recipes, funny stories, sharing of life experiences, advice re; ailments, family news, support given to posters facing troubles, the witty/satirical comments, the camaraderie... well, lots of things! Wishing you all a great holiday season.

The truth hurts said...

Hmm, was Kate trying to tell her followers something? She retweeted the following from QuoteImages:

pic.twitter.com/jg2JXRRAwm

It says:

"Definition of stupid--Knowing the truth, seeing the truth, but still believing the lies."

fade2black said...

My favorite Christmas movie is A Christmas Story. It's such a real picture of the holidays when I was growing up, except we didn't have the fragile lamp. :)

My kids had small aquatic frogs that lived in the aquarium, I'm assuming that's what TWF means. I hope so, I can't imagine the shrieks and squeals if she had to touch a land frog.

Millicent said...

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 4h
You can only smile when the losers of the world try so hard to put down successful people. Just remember, they all want to be YOU!
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Donald Trump - another one who is so full of himself. Please Donald - never, in my wildest dreams, do I want to be you. And even with all your money, you can't do a thing about your hair.

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8 1m

Tucker's Mom said...

What charity do you support during the holiday season?
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Fisher House is our big one.

Millicent said...

@ Remona Blue said... 114
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Agree :) I have never gotten the impression that Hoffman is just "fooling around." He does want to publish his book. Whether he can get a good editor and a good publisher behind him is something that remains to be seen. However, I certainly hope that after all his time and effort, he can get it edited, streamlined, and published.

NJGal51 said...

The show that I really want to see TFW on is Clebrety Apprentice. She would be eaten alive. Keep tweeting with The Donald FW and maybe it will happen.

NJGal51 said...

@Quotelmages: pic.twitter.com/jg2JXRRAwm
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TFW retweeted the above and it does sum up her sheeple to a tee!

PatK said...

Gotta love how TFW jumps on The Donald's tweets from time to time, still grasping for that Apprentice gig.

foxy said...

Kirk Streb is a producer for Sister Wives, Kate plus 8 and a few other shows. He works for Figure 8 films.

Ingrid said...

Thank you for mentioning A Christmas Carol with Alistair Sim!! I watched it every year when I was little and just the other day I mentioned to family how I would like to see it again. I took a look on Youtube and found the full movie! I don't even bother watching newer Christmas Carol movies because this one was the best!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XNKe1cGucY

Millicent said...

LisaNH said... 142

I think this has been Kate's problem for years, she's been allowing Steve to act as manager and taking his advice on certain endeavors and look where it has gotten her? No where.

I suspect between Steve's bad management and advice and Kate's personality, she's toast when it comes to a career in show biz.
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If Steve is advising Kate on money management and investments, and his own wife is handling those funds/investments -- what you have there would be a prime opportunity for financial mismanagement.

(Note: I have no knowledge of who handles Kate's financial issues. This is complete speculation.)

I think Bill Cosby once said that he or his wife had to sign every check that went out of any of his accounts; and that he paid close attention to every financial detail. Comedian Bernie Mac once said that his wife handled their business affairs, because he trusted her to do the right thing.

Other celebrities have not had such positive outcomes. I think Kevin Bacon and his wife had invested a lot with Bernie Madoff -- and poof!, that money was gone, never to be seen again.

I do not think Steve is a trustworthy character. It would not surprise me to learn that he's been skimming money off the top for years.

AuntieAnn said...

fade2black said... 170

My favorite Christmas movie is A Christmas Story. It's such a real picture of the holidays when I was growing up, except we didn't have the fragile lamp. :)

My kids had small aquatic frogs that lived in the aquarium, I'm assuming that's what TWF means. I hope so, I can't imagine the shrieks and squeals if she had to touch a land frog.

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Maybe she should kiss it and see if it turns back into Steve.

A Christmas Story is my favorite movie of this season, too. It doesn't feel like Christmas until I've watched it. The "must be Italian" lamp is so funny.

Insert Creative Username Here said...

Silimom, that's a good line by line comparison! It really is a lesson in opposites! I was wondering how a kid came up with a poem like that!

Insert Creative Username Here said...

Layla said... 165
Quiet morning spent sitting in a dr's waiting room. I brought my Kindle, and have been reading parts of Robert's book. Some things that stood out (from Chapter 8 -Show Me The Money). First, there are email exchanges between TFW and Jim Ford at Discovery, discussing the contract for the show. In Sept 2006, Jim tells her that the contract is a 5-year contract, which can be renewed if the ratings are good. She signed in Sept 2006 and the show was cancelled in Sept 2011, which is exactly 5 years--the term of the contract. So, it looks like TLC/Discovery decided not to start a new contract with her after the first 5 years ended. That would mean that TFW's claim in Sept 2013 that they are at the very end of their contract is a lie. She was just trying to save face.

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TFW might not have been lying (for once in her life). Although I had missed the part about the 5 year contract (thanks for pointing that out!). That's actually very interesting. TFW couldn't keep the public interested for more than 5 years! I'm surprised she signed something like that. That really pigeon holds her $$. But, it might have been written in a lucrative way. First year, $ and episode, Second $$ and episode, Third year $$$ and episode, etc...which might explain the $250k number we heard about in her 5th year. TLC probably thought she wouldn't have lasted that long so never expected to pay that much.

But back to the contract. If her contract ended in 2011, most contracts have a non-compete clause tagged onto it. So in other words the contract may have expired in 2011, and not renewed, but then TFW might not have been able to get a new series until 2013, when the non-compete clause ran out.

JR said...

Nobody wants to be you Kate...I don't know one person who would sell their kids like they were commodities. Shame on you...you totally disgust me. You greedy entitled pig!!

Aunt Connie said...

I read an article about Katherine Higel who has ruined her own career by being demanding, entitled and difficult to work with. She was getting something like $30 million for a movie and now she has stooped to making a Nyquil commercial. People are avoiding her. She did it to herself. People don't like to work with nasty people. Sound familiar? Can't imagine Kate could resurrect her "tv career" if someone as beautiful and talented as Katherine Higel can't get hers going again.

Insert Creative Username Here said...

Aunt Connie, I think that's just tabloid stuff. I think she's said she's been taking a break while raising her kids and she's been in at least one movie a year for the past several years. In Hollywood that's nothing to sneeze at.

I found her interviews refreshing. Same with the other hated one, Megan Fox. Their problem is that they don't try to be generic, don't try to bend to the PR mold that all celebrities get into. I like them for that. However, that is not the way to get paying gigs. The least controversial, and more relatable (i.e. generic) celebs like a Natalie Portman or George Clooney, tend to get the roles. I don't know a thing about them other than they can act and are pretty, and that's what keeps them going.

For instance, there's some authors I won't buy books from, because I found out they advocate for certain causes I don't agree with. As soon as I heard that they were involved with those organizations, I stopped buying their books. If you want to make a ton of money as a celeb, be relatable but boring, just interesting enough to catch people's attentions but not enough to make waves. Call it the Oprah affect.

That's why I think Reality TV has always been doomed to a flash in the pan. It's cheap to produce, but once the audience gets to know the people, they don't like them. The more you know about them, the more they won't fit your mold of how you think people should be, and the more likely you are to be turned off.

Amy2 said...

Aunt Connie,
Katherine Higel also did lots of plastic surgery on her face.

As for not working with nasty people, if the person is nasty and can make money in movies or TV, they'll have a job. Once nasty person does not make money for the higher ups, they won't have a job. It's all about money which is why Kate is having trouble finding work now. The draw has always been the cute kids. They're not adorable toddlers anymore. They are 9 and 13 year old. Ho Hum.

The household isn't doing anything odd or unusual (a la Honey Boo Boo, Duck Dynasty). Kate has nothing to sell to the studios or TV.

JoyinVirginia said...

Fade 2 black, Auntie Ann, I am another fan of A Christmas Story. My older dd gave me a desk lamp sized version of the infamous Leg Lamp several Christmases ago, it sits proudly in the living room.
” you used up all the glue on purpose!”
” its a Major Award!”

Formerly Duped said...

Idk, if my child wrote that poem I would be a little concerned. It may just be an attempt at witty verse, but I would check in with the writer to see if everything was ok. Most kids are so excited and happy for Xmas that dark thoughts don't enter their minds; however, all kids are different and she may just be creative in an original way

Bitchy Pants said...

I think one reason the blog has been relatively quiet the past week is because of the holiday. People are just now getting settled back into their daily routines. I suspect the timing of TFMJG's dropping the suit against Robert was deliberate, to avoid a lot of publicity (for once in her life). I did notice though that there was little publicity over her dropping the suit against Jon, although a number of "news" outlets (cough-tabloids-cough) were quick to jump on the filing of the suit.

My favorite Christmas movie(s) are not full-length movies, but the Charlie Brown Christmas and How the Grinch Stole Christmas (the animated special, not the Jim Carrey movie). I like several Christmas movies, including "It's a Wonderful Life" and "A Christmas Carol" (the Alastair Sim version). My Christmas charities are the food pantries and my church's outreach, and I always adopt a couple of children from the Salvation Army Angel Tree. I make Barbie clothes, so I always try to get at least one girl who is Barbie age and has a Barbie on her wish list. I have a ball shopping for clothes and toys for them.

When I was a kid, I brought home a bunch of tadpoles from the lake, My mom put them outside in the fish pond (a very small hand-dug one that was home to 3 or 4 goldfish in the summer) when they began to sprout legs. We had frog song all summer and the next year too.

AuntieAnn said...

My older dd gave me a desk lamp sized version of the infamous Leg Lamp several Christmases ago, it sits proudly in the living room.

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Joy, oh you lucky gal! I'm totally 'jellus' :0)

GKids said...

Insertive Creative User Name- But back to the contract. If her contract ended in 2011, most contracts have a non-compete clause tagged onto it. So in other words the contract may have expired in 2011, and not renewed, but then TFW might not have been able to get a new series until 2013, when the non-compete clause ran out.
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I totally agree, she could not do anything without TLC's permission during non-compete phase, unless she had their permission.

TLC stinks said...

Yes, definitely, there is almost always a non-compete clause so that is what she must have been referring to. Usual play on words.

Millicent, I guess you must have Googled where Steve's wife works. Interesting, isn't it?

localyocul said...

Who's googling? Someone's googling? I'm not the only creep stalker?

lukebandit said...


LisaNH....said
2 of the stockings I made (that I know of) made it to that base.

How wonderful! I feel the same way about the Operation Christmas Child shoe boxes! What I would give to see a child open the box that someone packed and the child pick up the lid and turn it and look at the folk artwork on it and smile???

I would be beside myself.


Layla said...

Insert Creative Name Here (182)
You have a point about a non-compete clause. TFW likes to play with words, so she might have been twisting the words. However, there are passages where Julie C May comes on the scene and is arguing with TLC over $ and says that J&K may have to explore their options elsewhere (it's where they are negotiating for the 4th and 5th season salaries). So if there were a non-compete clause in that 5-year contract, they would not be able to explore their options with another network--it would be breach of contract. Of course, they would also be breaching their contract by stopping the show, so its hard to be sure. I just thought it was interesting that the show stopped exactly 5 years after they signed a 5-year contract. It shouldn't have been a surprise at all, then, that the show was cancelled/not renewed. She would have known that the contract was coming to the end. Perhaps TFW was asking for too much money for a new contract and TLC said no.

It's interesting to read again after awhile. I am seeing things I didn't pick up on before. One more thing was the wording in those emails about salaries for 30-minute episodes vs. hour-long episodes. They considered each hour-long episode to be two 30-minute episodes. I counted the episodes of K+8, and came up with 22 hour-long ones (or 44 episodes, as they were counting them) and 6 30-minute ones. Total 50 episodes. (Correct me if I counted wrong!!). But exactly 50 episodes--what a nice, round number. Exactly 5 years in the contract, exactly 50 episodes of K+8. I think that 50 episodes was exactly what K+8 was supposed to be, and TLC ended the required # of episodes at the the exact end of the 5 years. Then walked away.

Greedy Gosselins said...

If you have/had kids, you know when they turn 13 - 18, attitudes fly. Sulking, acting sullen, railing at the world, feeling sorry for oneself is par for the course with them. It's simply a stage of life. Nothing to worry about, usually.

lukebandit said...

Whoa. What you can find out if you just google it. I had a feeling for a long time that Steve may have an substantial life, disability, long term care insurance policy on TFW. Maybe now. This is IMO.

This reminds me when you get hired at a bank and take a position, they present you a life insurance policy to sign, they pay the payments, they reap the benefit when you die. They do this to be reimbursed for hiring, training and how many pennies they shelled out for you.

I think this is horrible and should be illegal. I just believe kate would never pay for a life insurance policy for herself and name Jon the sole beneficiary. If kate was a good and kind person she would have her self one if something happened to Jon and pay for Jon a policy incase something happened to her. Oh, well.

I wonder if kate took pictures of the dogs in the crates in their vomit and feces and Robert found them on the CD's. If it is true, that would cause outrage for the animal lovers out there for sure. If she would have her picture made with the sumo wrestler cap and making her eyes slant and keep it, she will allow or take a picture of anything.

fade2black said...

You have an honest to goodness leg lamp, Joy? Put me on the jellus train with Auntie Ann.

Rhymes with Witch said...

When I was a kid, I brought home a bunch of tadpoles from the lake, ,
My mom put them outside in the fish pond (a very small hand-dug one
that was home to 3 or 4 goldfish in the summer) when they began to
sprout legs. We had frog song all summer and the next year too.189

How cool was that? I did catch and release on tree frogs. Thought
they were so cute.
Watched a turtle laying eggs on our lake front property a few years
ago. Took a discrete picture.

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PatK said... 151
''...I imagine that job falls upon the those children who choose NOT to spend the visitation time with their dad.''
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Oh that reminds me of I thought I've had for a while, and keep forgetting to mention. I've noticed that often when the other children are with Jon, the twins and Colin are with her. I've wondered if he was being punished for some infraction or the other and not allowed to go with his father with the others. The added bonus for TFW would be that he is there to take care of the chickens and clean the bathrooms!

I'm hoping that thought is wrong.

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