Terminal cancer. Kind celebrities who reached out with love and support. A song sung as a dying wish. Nightline's year-long investigation about a sophisticated scam that preyed mostly on celebrities' emotions, not dollars, turned up none other than Kate Gosselin as a victim. Brad Paisley, John Henson, Natalie Grant, and others were also contacted by the scammer, who sometimes pretended a woman was ill and sometimes pretended a little girl was ill.
Kate spoke with Nightline via e-mail, and says she was reaching out in 2008 to a woman named Hope who said she was a cancer patient. She spoke to the woman on the phone for several months, and when she found out Hope had "died" she dedicated an episode of Jon and Kate to her (the episode 'Gosselins Go Skiing and the dedication to Hope at the end can be viewed on Youtube). Kate had no idea she was scammed until Nightline told her recently.
The savvier Natalie Grant, however, suspected something was off right away, but then felt guilty for questioning it. "I actually was mad at myself for even having those thoughts because I thought, 'Natalie, how could you be thinking this? This is a little girl who's on her deathbed, taking her final breaths, how could you even be questioning this?'" Other celebs also suspected something was wrong as the scam was going on, after talking to "Hope" on the phone or asking for details about her treatment.
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parents exploited the Dionne quintuplets
Who knows how their other children were treated?
TLC and their parents exploited the Gosselin children - all of them.
One parent is now trying to minimize the damage and warn others.
One parent continues to use the children in her quest to fame and fortune.
Several sets of multiples have been born in recent months. Haven't heard about them since the birth announcement.
P.s. God help C S & D M's twins.
Well, I think it is perfectly obvious how information is leaking. Shoka is in cahoots with the NSA. That, and the bug they have on that pink iPhone.
The non-fans jump on it, and the war is on. The fans assure each other that they are "LMAO" or "ROFL", call the non-fans haters, talk about how sad and pathetic haters are....it's ridiculous, it's petty,
It's beyond ridiculous. I really wish the 'twitter wars' weren't brought to this blog. smh LOL
Going on national television to once again thrust them into the spotlight is just more failing to protect them. IMO, of course. And, if this is some kind of strategy for the lawsuit, then, once again, the kids are being exploited. IMO--I don't expect many of you to agree with me.
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I agree with you Ex Nurse! There are a few of us here. By the way where is winsomeone? She had good insight too.
And Dmasy? You used to post here every day but you've gone away. Come back!
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IMO--I don't expect many of you to agree with me.
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As for me, that would be correct. But because I've already responded to similar posts, I'm not going to repeat myself, repeating my reasons once more. I'm sure you know where I stand.
It is the job of parent's to protect their kids, not corporations and networks. But parents signed a second contract, knowing full well what filming was like.
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As to the first contract - I would have to disagree. At that point in time, reality tv shows featuring families were relatively new-ish, and I don't see how either J or K could have known what filming would be like, and how intrusive the cameras/lights would be, nor how much control they would lose as parents or else risk a lawsuit for breach of contract.
What is clear to me is that for Kate, it was never any problem, and she still doesn't see any negatives to the filming. As to Jon, it appears that as time went on, he did become uncomfortable and concerned about the filming, but as we all saw, TLC had the upper hand and vast amounts of money and media control. David v. Goliath, except that this time, Goliath won out.
We should indeed hold corporations liable for forcing a family, via a contract, to do things that are harmful to the family unit and to the individuals within the family. After all, I believe the Supreme Court has determined that corporations qualify as people. So they ought to be just as liable as a human being when they cause suffering all in the name of greed.
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Well, that Krow is on a whiny sympathy rant right now anyway, because her anti-bully hero is re-focusing on TFW's haters again.
http://tonyortega.org/2013/11/08/the-tom-cruise-smear-machine-accusations-from-his-depositin-you-havent-heard/
I'm finding this fascinating. I hope this lawsuit goes through just so I can read Kate's deposition. It'll be a barn burner if it's anything like this one of Tom Cruise's. The entitlement with celebrities is incredible.
And Tom is a reasonably educated man who's dealt with the press for many more years than Kate. The crap that's come out of his mouth with just this deposition alone is mind bloggling. Can you only imagine what gems Katie Irene will give us?
Susie in Cinn: The others being the ones that support her poor struggling mom, I do it for my kids crap and bash Jon. To Kate those are the only truther mags and interviews that really count, but Kate does love the publicity, good or bad said so herself, many times. LOL
Apparently the other Dionne children were treated better than the five girls, living off the riches of Quintland. When they returned to their parents, they felt out of place whereas their siblings were already 'home." They never bonded with their siblings and remained a closely knit support group of an 'outcast' five until Emilie joined a convent (where she died during a seizure)
I accidently hit send.
But what else I was going to say, I saw a recipe that I think is amazing. You take a can of sweetened condensed milk, place it in your crockpot, submerge with water and put on low for 8 hours. Take can out and let sit and get to room temperature, and Whoa! CARAMEL! The recipe is on the internet and can be easily found. It would be neat to have a cookbook on recipes like this, crazy ways to cook things in a crockpot.
Could call it, You're Making What with That in a Crockpot???
Saw a picture of Jen Law with the kate do, boy she could play kate in the movie.
When is THE BOOK coming out?
Robert has a new post up.
gosselinbook.blogspot.ca
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If you want to be fair, just take a looky here at the wonderful Mother on her couch, with huge pay, makeup, new nails, blow dry, all done professionally of couse. She is very comfortably describing her OWN childrens vomit FESTIVAL! A vomit fest? Do you have any idea what it feels like to be sick at sea? She did not care. She continued to flaunt the brand new titties, half naked in her brandie new "hookers R us fishing slut clothes and my kids be damned if they are lying down and pukeing I am gonna fish and shreik for the camera guys". What a gal..........What a Mom. She makes me want to puke. Take a look, all she did was shriek for someone else to come and comfort her own children. After all viewing public, the show must go and my very sick children be damned. Yes, have a lookie. This woman makes me so mad I could spit nails. Can she not be so grateful, on her knees to God that she has eight healthy living children???/ No, she NEVER came to their rescue once on that boat. Where was her beating heart. Her children were sick. They came from her own body! She has no natural affection for her own children. An alley cat has more feeling than that creature.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mYyUp4oFR4
As Wheezer said in Steel Magnolias, "She's the pig from hell".
Cristina Rich @Sienna_Star 6m
@Kateplusmy8 A brand new American Girl store is opening here in the San Francisco area. I'm going in Dec. For my bday.
I'm sure Kate cares. I thought this fan was a married adult and not a tween or teen. It does get confusing keeping them straight! ;-)
OT Tuesday will be special because the date will be sequential numbers: 11/12/13. That will only happen once more this century, next year on 12/13/14. Virtual party coming up on Tuesday with some mathematically minded virtual guests of honor. Wear your formal muumuus and fancy crocs and glitter anything. Thanks for the glitter crown, Auntie Ann!
Susie in Cinn: The others being the ones that support her poor struggling mom, I do it for my kids crap and bash Jon.
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I understood the tweet. You posted that Kate said People was the ONLY magazine that told the truth. If you carefully read the tweet, she said that there were "others" as well.
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What is clear to me is that for Kate, it was never any problem, and she still doesn't see any negatives to the filming.
We should indeed hold corporations liable for forcing a family, via a contract, to do things that are harmful to the family unit and to the individuals within the family.
Just a big big wow for you. You just said it all and right.......Wow again.
Fencer, why....thank you. I have been reading faithfully. I am here. I couldn't possibly stay away.
Life has just been a bit busy for us of late. Some really good things...and some very sad things.
Fencer, no offense, but Tom Cruise didn't attend college. For some insight into his extreme narcissism, a good book is Going Clear, about Scientology. He is featured quite a lot and has spoken a lot about his religion. He was indoctrinated at a very young age, as his career exploded, and has led a very insulated life. I really don't think he relates to the average person because nearly his entire adult life has been lived under the umbrella of fame and Scientology.
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Of course she loves People. She tells them whatever propaganda she feels like telling them and they print it. Other magazines talk to other people in the know who say things she doesn't "approve," but that doesn't in and of itself make what those people tell them untrue. However People was also the magazine that says TLC doesn't want her unless Jon signs on too, and that Kate therefore refuses to work with TLC if it has to be with Jon. Since she says People is true, I will choose to believe that little tidbit, which only makes her look even more vindictive, spiteful, nasty and pathetic, IMO. She hates Jon SOOO much she's willing to turn down a chance at getting back on T.V.?? For Kate, that's huge.
If you want to be fair, just take a looky here at the wonderful Mother on her couch, with huge pay, makeup, new nails, blow dry, all done professionally of couse.
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What does any of this have to do with my post that Kate never said she KNEW that the blighted ovum was a female? I simply pointed out that Kate said that the children decided it was a girl. Kate never said it was a girl.
Oh, and I do know what it's like to be sick at sea. You want to die, and you're mad that you don't! What she did to those kids on that fishing trip was horrible...and to think that she allowed it to be filmed. I think that was the last show I watched. I got too angry seeing those children in such agony, and all for the sake of a television show.
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Yes, the twitter wars are insanely ridiculous, but the good part is that the one who's paying a price for all the nastiness is TFW. The twitter situation makes her look ridiculous, because it's her timeline and she has allowed it to become such a cesspool. Anyone who is interested in working with her can take a look and see the mess and controversy that surrounds her, and will know to steer clear. The fans baffle me, though. They seem to think they are involved in a competition with the non-fans, but what is their goal? If the non-fan's goal is to make TFW look completely undesirable, well, it's working. But the fans--what are they trying to accomplish? They are ruining TFW, although they claim they are defending her. one thing is clear--their absurd lies just make her look pathetic and ridiculous, which hurts her marketability. They seem to live and breathe their twitter war. Remember, one of them took it upon herself to "vet" everyone who was interested in the cruise, and scared people off. It contributed to the failure of the cruise, for certain. And this is a fan! The lies, the absurd tweets to anyone who ever speaks or prints anything about the G family, is costing TFW her dream career in the media. The non-fans should thank the fans. They are destroying TFW and her marketability faster than the non-fans alone ever could. The fun part is that TFW needs all the drama swirling around her, she feeds on it, and at the same time it is destroying her dream.
@Kateplusmy8: @Urdirtysecret crap lies as usual. Ignore them&buy REAL news like @peoplemag or others who do actual interviews & tend to write the truth.
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TFW's tweet shows how to win friends and influence people...NOT. Tweets like this are just going to cause more negative articles by this magazine. TFW can praise People all she wants but her glory days are over and I don't think that she's going to continue to get covers to tell her side of the story. Whatever way the wind blows is the way the magazines will go and even People won't continue to fart rainbows for TFW.
She should be careful what she wishes for. Maybe all the other "crap" magazines should stop talking about her. Then all she'd have left is Kate Coyne fawning over her. I think deep down she loves any and all buzz.
It seems like a lot of narcissists don't have a lot of higher education. I don't know if that is something documented but I wonder if it's because that kind of star of the show personality doesn't go over well in college and they can't get away with as many of their tricks. For instance a narcissist that played the pity card and got away with it in high school (extra time to do homework, a bump in a grade that wasn't deserved) would be met by a glare and a F by a college professor. Hence, they avoid college all together or drop out when they realize it's no joke.
Millicent said...
As to the first contract - I would have to disagree. At that point in time, reality tv shows featuring families were relatively new-ish, and I don't see how either J or K could have known what filming would be like, and how intrusive the cameras/lights would be, nor how much control they would lose as parents or else risk a lawsuit for breach of contract.
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I agree....I specifically said that they both signed a SECOND contract. I remember when TLC announced that J&K signed for 40 episodes in the upcoming season. I don't remember which season that was, but I think that was the contract that went through February of either 2011 or 2012. Kate obviously signed a new contract for TOK and K+8. That is my recollection, but I could be wrong. Seems like a 5 year contract for an unknown family would be a pretty long term for a first contract. Maybe Robert's book has a record of the contract signings.
FRP, not exactly true. Tom's not heavily involved with Scientology. He weaves in and out but talks like he's a fanatic. He goes to their events but he's not involved that much in the day to day aspect. He's basically just a spokesperson who's been heralded as some kind of hero.
Dmasy, I'm dying to know your opinion on Jon's latest comments to the world regarding his kids. You seem to always have a balanced view.
I do agree he leads an insular life but that's is only due to fame. He needs to check himself. The ego is out of control.
Tom Cruise is very dyslexic and has spoken about barely making it through school. Definitely not college material. He was also abused by what he calls his bully of a father. He left homeat 18 for New York.
Interesting that many narcissists don't further their education. And then there are actors like Jodie Foster and Brooke Shields, who graduated from Ivy League schools. James Franco is still in college because he loves it. And Jessica Chastain and others land on the big screen years after classical training at Julliard.
FRP
the one who's paying a price for all the nastiness is TFW.
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How about all the people who's business is all over the internet? I think they're paying a price, too, and if they don't realize it now, they will in the future at some point. I'm happy i'm not involved.
Fencer, that is interesting. Bac in the day, TC was involved in auditing other people. And he has most definitely benefitted financially as Scientology provided MUCH free labor and security at his many homes and customized cars. It is creepy and weird. I do believe his latest wife had to escape covertly because of Scientology.
He is an egomaniac extraordinaire! Did you see where he said making movies is as hard as fighting in a war??
FRP
@msgoody2shoes21: @MY_3BCOLLIES @Kateplusmy8 It's horrible the way haters bring up fans' family members in the Jon & Kate drama. Ignore the bullies.
What?! I think both sides are equally guilty.
Seems like a 5 year contract for an unknown family would be a pretty long term for a first contract.
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Not at all. That's as standard as apple pie. Many contracts for shows start at 5 years. But they alway have a clause that if the network wants to cancel the show at any time after 1 episode or 200, they may do so and you're out of luck. The intent is to lock people down in case the series is a hit and to prevent constant negotiations if it's a hit (you can get into a blackmail situation if you don't). For instance, Breaking Bad was a hit right away. If they didn't lock everyone into 5 years, or whatever term they did, they could try to use their new celebrity status and go make tons more money on the big screen, or they could go back to the negotiation table and demand tons more money or they walk. Five years keeps everyone honest. You agree to what everything is going to be upfront and the network still honors it even if the show stinks, and you still honor it if the show is a hit. It's considered fair since shows are always a gamble. It protects both sides. Five years is normal and even big time celebs will sign off on five years without a second thought.
I also think these networks have preyed on unsophisticated people. They may not have understood the commitment they were making. Surely they didn't understand most of the nuances, who could be a entertainment contract attorney or other expert?
I think independent legal representation in these reality contracts should be the law.
That said, I think it's absurd to have any child sign a 5 year contract. Even if a 10 year old is happy acting and loving it then, who knows how they will feel at 14, 15. They could be a totally different person then with different desires.
We should indeed hold corporations liable for forcing a family, via a contract, to do things that are harmful to the family unit and to the individuals within the family.
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Basically we're talking about ethics. Agree, I don't think you get to check good ethics at the door just because a family is willing to sign whatever and that was their decision. That does not give you a free pass to disregard ethics and the moral code. If someone wants to do something that could be terribly bad for them it's not always okay for you to do it because they consented. There has not been nearly enough discussion of this in the public when it comes to these contracts with "laymen" types.
Many contracts for shows start at 5 years. But they alway have a clause that if the network wants to cancel the show at any time after 1 episode or 200, they may do so and you're out of luck.
But that doesn't take away from Ex Nurse's point in that a young family signing a 5 YEAR contract is a bit daft in the head.
Breaking Bad was not a reality show. Isn't it much different with these reality shows?
FRP, I've read Kitty Kelly's book on tom Cruise. It was a yawnfest, actually.
But that does't take away from Ex Nurse's point in that a young family signing a 5 YEAR contract is a bit daft in the head.
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Well depends how you look at it. If everyone they asked said well but Jon and Kate, EVERYONE signs a 5 year contract like that when signing onto a show, how is that daft? If anything they would of said oh okay I see so they're giving us a standard contract, no funny business. A one or two year contract should have been raising red flags for them, even though that sounds counterintuitive, as that's not "normal".
I don't know if daft is the word. Insane, maybe. I think it's a bad idea to do a reality show any which way you slice it, but the length of the contract itself was never anything out of the ordinary and no one would be "daft" to sign on to something that normal. What would be daft is saying FIVE YEARS what??? They would have looked at you like, yessss that's what we give everyone. They needed lawyers to help them with this sort of thing, because as we can see here someone thought five years was odd when it's not. That proves the point that people not in the business probably don't know how these things work and can be taken advantage of easier.
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My guess would be Kate was only to happy to sign a contract without giving much thought into the consequences. She had dollar signs in those eyes and nothing was stopping her. Wasn't it reported that she sent out tapes to different networks? I seem to recall an episode that showed a clip of her sitting on the floor with the babies and at the end of the video she makes the statement " this is a day in the Gosselin's house or thank you for coming to our house". It just seemed odd to me that if she was video taping for memories only, one typically doesn't make a remark like that. I think it might have been a Q and A episode.
Remember Ashton Kutcher's speech at the Teen Choice Awards? There was a post here about it.
http://www.realitytvkids.com/2013/09/ive-never-had-job-in-my-life-that-i-was.html
Ashton was on Ellen this past week, and Ellen discussed that speech with him. One of the things he said was:
"“It’s funny — I mean — I talk to some of my friends and they don’t want to get a job at Starbucks or they don’t want to get a job at wherever because they feel like it’s below them. And I think the only thing that could be below you is to not have a job! Go work until you can get the job you want to have."
Here are 2 articles about his Ellen appearance:
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/gossip/la-et-mg-ashton-kutcher-fame-ellen-degeneres-20131106,0,6762460.story#axzz2kDf1oojv
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/sarahjeanseman/2013/11/08/ashton-kutcher-on-ellen-show-only-thing-below-you-is-to-not-have-a-job-n1743217
You can see his interview with Ellen here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sykEOFu0aYQ
It's nice to know that someone in the entertainment industry gets it.
@msgoody2shoes21: @MY_3BCOLLIES @Kateplusmy8 It's horrible the way haters bring up fans' family members in the Jon & Kate drama. Ignore the bullies.
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The HECK??? Kate fully supported the charge with BV. All her tweets saying she supported it plus all the retweeting during that. She and her camp blackmailed the site into an apology. How was that "ignoring" anyone? You can't with a straight face say she's ignored anything. If anyone owes an apology it's her for getting down in the mud like that. Shame on her.
According to the chapter of RH's book, "in reading all the contracts between the Gosselin family and TLC, we were way off base on how much money was changing hands"..."here's an excerpt from the season 4 and five contract negotiation before Julie May was hired."..."I have the season five contract and amendment".
So, clearly, there were multiple contracts. And, of course, they both insisted that they could stop filming at any time--which appears to be true because filming did shut down, just 16 episodes into the 5th season. According to emails, there was to be a minimum of 35 episodes to 50 episodes (hour long shows counted as 2).
As a matter of fact, according to one email:" I recognize that the final negotiation process has been laborious, but the Gosselin's will need to review their options. The family is rapidly approaching the the conclusion of the third season and we still have not concluded the Addendum". So, they were free to pursue other opportunities after the third season.
By season four, I don't think that a case can be made that Jon was naive . That is just plain insulting to him-- I have a higher opinion of him then that.
It's not question of being "naive" it's a question of not having the expertise. You could be the smartest guy in the room and still haven't the foggiest idea what an entertainment contract really means in front of you. I don't mean not understand the words and terms, I mean having the vast knowledge of entertainment contracts that comes with specializing in it in law school or other comparable education and years of experience in the industry to know what it means for you and your future and the strategy of your career when you agree to certain terms. I'm sure they are well capable of understanding we do X and get paid X amount but as far as the nuances and what all the fine print really means big picture wise, no I don't believe a layman is equipped for that and may never be. There is a reason that attorneys specialize in entertainment law and that law schools in L.A. offer entertainment law programs. I took a few classes to gauge my interest and the classes were about contracts, period. That's the bulk of the practice. If reality t.v. stars and actors could figure out contracts themselves after being around the block a few times, there would be no need for entertainment attorneys. And yet the business is swamped with them. Even if there were a contract on the table today I still don't think either one of them has any business with it, not without expert help.
Case in point, Kate and Jon never got royalties or any money from products. Rookie mistake that few laymen would ever think of. Not their fault, who would think of that unless you've read a textbook on entertainment law. It's not being naive it's simply not knowing the ins and outs of contracts. I wouldn't expect them to.
If they were negotiating all the time like that, it effectively is rendering any 5 year provision meaningless. Frankly, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. Why bother with a 5 year provision if you're allowed to renegotiate. Without being a fly on a wall for all their negotiations we're batting half blind here, we're just guessing, and I don't find that all that productive. It requires massive amount of assumptions that are too much to resolve anything concrete. Just like the hacking. We're just missing way too much information to be able to say anything concrete other than it sounds ridiculous to me.
I have to say I'd be rather surprised if TLC took them back to the drawing board as frequently as implied, or that much was REALLY open to debate. That's not really that smart of them. If they were smart they would lock them in to as many terms as possible for as long as possible, which is what I suspect happened even if a dog and pony show was put on about "re-negotiations." It would be interesting to see what would have happened had Kate and Jon said something drastic like that's it we're done show's over.
Oh wait we know what would have happened, they sued the ever living pants off Jon for leaving and made his name mud and it took him over three years to finally get his redemption for that smear campaign.
I suspect these renegotiations were quite a bit more for show than anything else. I think they knew full well that at least then no one was going anywhere.
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It's not question of being "naive" it's a question of not having the expertise. You could be the smartest guy in the room and still haven't the foggiest idea what an entertainment contract really means in front of you.
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This is reall completely beside the point, which is that they were never under a 5 year contract. At most, it was a 3 year contract, at which point, they had representation of Julie May Carson, who certainly knew her way around a contract.
Where did the 5 year contract idea come from? I don't see anything about that in RH's book. And, he didn't imply multiple contracts--he said he was in possession of the 4th and 5th season. There is a very detailed email from Paul Datte, an attorney in Pottsville PA, detailing all of the amendments to TLC's contract. They had legal representation and an industry insider, JMC, representing them in contract negotiations.
Admin : came across this in TFW local newspaper :
Letter: Stop beating Gosselin horse
11/9/2013
Editor:
Your story "Winfrey to air interview with Jon Gosselin Sunday" (Reading Eagle, Nov. 2) made me cringe. The interview was to tell how Kate Gosselin and he differ in parenting styles and he would like to resume a regular life with the kids.
Here's a thought: Stop doing useless interviews. The Gosselins should have realized that their 15 minutes of fame is long gone. I don't care about tell-all books or if one of them is doing an interview.
Please stop beating this dead horse. People who have interacted with the Gosselins have heard enough to make their ears bleed. Especially those of us who have experienced one of Kate Gosselin's famous venomous tirades.
Berks County has plenty of famous actors, actresses, musicians, artists, writers and professional athletes who grew up here or live here. Many of them are gracious enough to work with local charities to give back to Berks County.
It would better serve our community if this paper concentrated more on these celebrities who can be role models for our children than two people who make headlines for bashing each other.
It is a sad reflection on this paper when you hit the news category on the online edition and find the name Gosselin listed.
Ann Wolf
Robeson Township
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Where did the 5 year contract idea come from? I don't see anything about that in RH's book. And, he didn't imply multiple contracts--he said he was in possession of the 4th and 5th season. There is a very detailed email from Paul Datte, an attorney in Pottsville PA, detailing all of the amendments to TLC's contract. They had legal representation and an industry insider, JMC, representing them in contract negotiations.
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I wondered the same thing so I did a search of all the pages of this thread and the first time it shows up it here:
Ex Nurse said... 27 I agree....I specifically said that they both signed a SECOND contract. I remember when TLC announced that J&K signed for 40 episodes in the upcoming season. I don't remember which season that was, but I think that was the contract that went through February of either 2011 or 2012. Kate obviously signed a new contract for TOK and K+8. That is my recollection, but I could be wrong. Seems like a 5 year contract for an unknown family would be a pretty long term for a first contract. Maybe Robert's book has a record of the contract signings.
Ex Nurse, I appreciate your willingness to assert your opinions, whether or not they're commonly held views. More so, that you take the time to back them up with evidence (i.e. quotes from RH's book, video footage, etc.). Even when I don't agree with your position I value your input. Same with others here, whether you swim with or against the tide.
Honest debate is healthy. It doesn't derail the discussion...people can choose their own reactions...but it does keep us from becoming sycophants. And allowing for those differences of opinion is important, in that it encourage us to dig for facts to support our own points of view, rather than merely speculating.
Yikes, Alexis' doll's lunch is almost as big as her own!
Ex-Nurse...oops...Really, you seem to get some perverse delight in trying so hard to make Jon the bad guy in 2013. It's been 4 years and he is still trying to protect his children against the monster, the monster with the money, their Mother. That you give him no credit for this says a lot about you.
Alexis's lunch looks pretty normal to me; a decent sized sandwich on wheat bread, chips, and a fruit roll-up. I don't remember giving my kids lunches bigger than that.
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Tom Cruise is very dyslexic and has spoken about barely making it through school. Definitely not college material.
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People with learning disabilities aren't "college material?" Many a dyslexic has succeeded in college. What an incredibly ignorant statement.
@Kateplusmy8: Even American Girls get hungry....and Alexis made sure to shares her lunch with her girl... pic.twitter.com/BtMXdp7qR0
First of all it looks like she's the only one at the table. How sad that Kate has to set up pictures like this. Secondly if she's going to continue to do this (and we know she is) she needs to learn to compose a picture. That water glass looks HUGE because of the angle of the camera.
Hit publish too soon. Third...won't her friends make fun of her for feeding her dolly lunch. At 9 I'm guessing the know that the doll can't really eat so why put a plate of food in front of it.
Ok first of all she had the kids last weekend so it's Jon's weekend.
Second it's only 930 AM on the East Coast. Shouldn't they be at church, or if she's dropped the Christian thing, eating breakfast? Why is Alexis eating lunch at 930 in the morning?
I'm betting this is an old pic conveniently tweeted to make it look like she has the kids this weekend. Sigh.
At close to 10, she should be at the very, very end of wanting to play tea party with her baby. She's pushing the outer limits here.
Actually correction it was 930 AM yesterday, but again, the kids should have been with Jon then. She loves to imply she has the kids but if ever caught would say oh well I never said that was a pic from TODAY!
It seems like a lot of narcissists don't have a lot of higher education. I don't know if that is something documented but I wonder if it's because that kind of star of the show personality doesn't go over well in college and they can't get away with as many of their tricks. For instance a narcissist that played the pity card and got away with it in high school (extra time to do homework, a bump in a grade that wasn't deserved) would be met by a glare and a F by a college professor. Hence, they avoid college all together or drop out when they realize it's no joke.
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I think that you are making an assumption without an basis in fact.
Kate Gosselin is a registered nurse. She is not uneducated and to imply that a nursing school would let a student get away with "tricks" is insulting. What "trick" did she use to pass the state boards and obtain her license?
she needs to learn to compose a picture
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At this point I think she's hopeless. There are so many issues with the photo I don't know where to begin. She doesn't need to take a university level photography course but spending 10 minutes online reading about how to use your iPhone camera would help.
For starters, her phone gave priority focus to the doll's face and Alexis' face is slightly blurry. This is simple to fix by simply holding your finger on Alexis's face when you are composing to make sure that's the one in focus. But then that would take work to actually figure out how to use your camera. You know given that you have a blog and everything.
PW is not the best photographer, but she studied and read and LEARNED and practiced. She knew if she wanted a blog that was to be successful, the photos needed to be good. They need not be Annie Leibowitz, but it's not hard to make a blog worthy photo. Now she's learned so much she will sometimes post tutorials, and she is a good teacher.
The photo was shot 22 hrs ago, Eastern time, which made it at approx 1 pm yesterday afternoon, Eastern time. I often don't get the petty stuff being discussed.
With all due respect Ex-Nurse (and I'm only posting this because you divulged this about yourself) you seem to constantly try to reinforce your position that Jon, as a father, did not do enough for his kids. IIRC you just recently split from your alcoholic husband, am I right? Was it a 30 yr relationship? I apologize if I have the wrong amount of years, but it was a longtime marriage, correct?Did your children grow up with an alcoholic father? What steps did he (or both of you) take to "put the children first"? I'd say you must have forgiven, gotten over, or at least let some things go in that time? Both of you as parents, in hindsight, would have done things differently? There are a multitude of issues that adults who were raised by an alcoholic parents have to deal with. Probably a lot of the same issues the G8 will no doubt have to face as well.
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Ok first of all she had the kids last weekend so it's Jon's weekend.
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But remember, there was a "change of plans" last weekend. Jon went to L.A. and she had the whole weekend for superfunpumpkincarving.
I assumed he forfeited his weekend and this weekend was her regular weekend. Right?
With all due respect Ex-Nurse (and I'm only posting this because you divulged this about yourself) you seem to constantly try to reinforce your position that Jon, as a father, did not do enough for his kids.
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And that's the problem when dissecting a situation from afar. We weren't there. We don't know what he did or he didn't do for his kids. Sure you can look at it and say, hey, why didn't he do this, why didn't he do that? There must have been so much going down during that time that to say he didn't do enough for his kids is speculation. One may believe what one wants to believe, but unless one was personally involved in this whole mess, nothing is certain. It's like trying to figure out the contracts that they signed. You just don't know. Speculation and assumptions aren't productive because there is so much unknown. What I do remember about that, as indicated in TLC's lawsuit that was posted, that there was no mention of an attorney being present when they first signed. Subsequent contracts show an attorney of record present.
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I guess it is petty, but TFW makes such a deal about her lunches including all those items she made the kids recite- sandwich, crunchy thing, cheese stick/yogurt a 'vege', fruit, dessert, an extra. Looks like more Apple juice for Alexis.Remember her lunches are the talk and envy of the school. This does seem like a mediocre (ordinary) lunch for a kid.She has a section about her famous original lunches in her cookbook.
Speaking of #superfunpumpkincarving where are the promised pictures of that and Shoka's party?
Tweet my apologies I thought I was seeing her local time not pacific time. My mistake. I'm not trying to be petty, sheesh.
The five year thing came from YOU ex nurse. You were asking if it was normal, remember?
Ex nurse - I don't think you need to answer perspective on your personal life. Although I don't always agree with your opinion, it's your opinion and I respect it. Don't get caught in the vortex of those who either won't use their normal screen name or are just here to stir things up.
Now, I think enough time has passed so that we can talk about MC Jr. I was pleased that Alexander won. I tried not to pick favorites but there was just something about him that drew me in. Those kids inspired me to do a little gourmet cooking this weekend and I'm making cream of wild mushroom soup. I'm making the mushroom stock now with onion, carrot, thyme and all the stems and trimmings from the mushrooms that I'm using. It's a long process but the final product is worth it in the end. If you're interested it's Ina Garten's recipe. The only variation I make is to use Harveys Bristol Cream sherry because I like the flavor better.
Kate however falsely tells us over and over how important education and grammar is to her, and that she “despises” misspelled words. Having studied Kate’s journal and Twitter feed, and watched her on television for several years analyzing her every word, I can say one thing for certain. Kate Gosselin is ignorant and doesn’t appear to be educated past the eighth grade. She puts other people down to hide the fact that she’s shallow and uneducated.
Hoffman, Robert (2012-09-27). KATE GOSSELIN: HOW SHE FOOLED THE WORLD (Kindle Locations 33805-33810). . Kindle Edition.
jems890 @Kateplusmy8 Rain here on the sunshine coast near Australia Zoo too!! @jems890 I find ‘rain on the sunshine coast’ to be an Oxy moron? Is it just me?? Lol! 2.25.12 It is just you Kate. The rest of us know that oxymoron is one word. You also didn’t need to cap the O either. Moron. You actually added a corner to your corner cutting. @SmithJeffreym you can’t see good when it’s raining outside? Don’t let surroundings determine your attitude! :) have a good rainy am! :) (You can’t see WELL when it’s raining either.)
Hoffman, Robert (2012-09-27). KATE GOSSELIN: HOW SHE FOOLED THE WORLD (Kindle Locations 33922-33929). . Kindle Edition.
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Kate does not have a college degree. She graduated from the Reading Hospital and Medical Center School of Nursing. It is a diploma program - they do not bestow BA or BS degrees. Kate is an RN with a diploma.
At close to 10, she should be at the very, very end of wanting to play tea party with her baby. She's pushing the outer limits here.
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You'd think so, but the America Girl doll is recommended for ages 8 and up. My niece is almost 11, and she's asked for Saige for Christmas. They do make baby dolls for ages 3 and up, but Alexis has the doll for older kids.
http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/bestoftv/2013/11/06/celebrities-reveal-catfishing-turner-newday.cnn.html
Barely a mention of TFW.
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Honest debate is healthy. It doesn't derail the discussion...people can choose their own reactions...but it does keep us from becoming sycophants. And allowing for those differences of opinion is important, in that it encourage us to dig for facts to support our own points of view, rather than merely speculating.
I agree with that, but when one keeps harping over and over again that Jon didn't do enough to help his kids, it gets old after awhile. It's been discussed until the cows come home and to say that he did nothing (or not enough) IS merely speculation, but the poster refuses to move on.
As far as contracts go, I am confused about TFW's contract term for K+8 (and, presumably, TofK). She said a couple months ago that she was dealing with the very, very end of her TLC contract. That was Sept. 2013. So, when did this contract begin? If 5 year contracts are standard, then she would have signed it in 2008, when she and Jon were still together and probably under their first TLC contract. I think filming for K+8 started in May of 2010, so she would have signed before that. But wouldn't that be concurrent with the original TLC contract, which had still not expired? Too confusing.
The odd thing is that she was trying to sell a dating show before K+8 was canceled. If she was under a years-long exclusivity contract, and her show was not (according to her) in danger of cancellation, then why bother trying to line up a dating show? Apparently TLC didn't want to do it, since they didn't bite.
It seems to me that her latest TLC contract was over long before she claims. When she was hinting at a dating show in 2011, it seemed like she was fishing for some network to make her an offer. When TLC canceled K+8, she was begging right away for a new show, which would not have been possible if she was still under contract with TLC. We know she lies as often as she blinks, so I'm thinking TLC cut her off completely when K+8 ended, or shortly afterward, and she's just throwing the "very, very end" comment out there to remind everyone in the business that she and the kids are still available, plus saving face by offering a possible explanation of why she hasn't gotten another show. I guess we'll find out soon enough if the "interest is HUGE" comment is true. That would mean that she should have a new show right away, with all that interest, right? And yet it's been 2 months since that comment, and...crickets. What will her next excuse be?
Fleece agree with both your posts. Debate is healthy. Wearing people down is not.
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Do girls that age still play with dolls and sit them at the table with a plate of food in front of them? I can see them actually playing with dolls with their friends (or sibs) but sitting the doll at the table with an actual plate of food in front of it just seems rather babyish to me. This is an honest question because I've only got boys and was a tomboy growing up so didnt play with dolls much.
I just read the new gosselinbook post and the article attached, and I'm really shocked at how little attention TFW pays to her kids. People have pointed out her walking through gates/doors and never stopping to see if the kids got trough. She ignored them so she could fish, and she ignored them on the Palin camping trip so she could stand alone and b$tch. Now we hear that she stands alone, hands on hips, while the crew plays with the kids at the beach. She walks off back to the house, not even noticing that her 5-year-old is still hanging back, gazing longingly at the ocean. The kids go play in the water with crew members and a babysitter, not their mother. The lack of interest in the kids and their well-being is mind-boggling. Now that she is without a crew and staff, she still needs "help" to get through the day with them. She has always said she doesn't see other people. That seems to include her kids.
The article does give us a clearer picture of Steve;s role in her life. He has to be there to prop her up, keep her in line, and make her more human to her fans. He is the one who deals with her tantrums, he is the one who keeps fans away, makes onlookers delete pictures, leads her through airports, assures her that she looks good, and coaxes her to interact with fans. She simply cannot cope without him, and any network who might be interested in her will find out right away that Steve has to be part of the package, just so she can function. What happens when her money runs out and she has to live close to other people, has to work with others, interact with others, and lead herself? How about when she has to deal with her kids on her own, without help? I don't think she allows herself to think about it. Just keeps dreaming of that second chance on TV, which is sure to come along and save her. No planning or preparation for the possibility that this second chance might not come along.
As I said in my post, I don't always agree with various opinions on different things. We've got some posters who will never see any good in Jon and some who think he walks on water. There is no happy medium with some posters. I've got my opinion as to who they are and generally just scroll by their posts so I don't get drawn into the vortex.
Now for my guilty pleasure...RHOBH is back on!
I had thought American Girl Dolls were for younger kids, too, but it seems to be the later elementary age girls that are taken with them.
IMO they are very over priced. The doll itself is good quality but the clothes are cheap fabric and poorly made, imo.
I was astounded at the prices...$110 for the doll, and $45 for one outfit (which included one or two small accessories).
I'm young enough to have had an American girl as did most of my girlfriends. I read the books and I had Felicity. I got her at about 9 and by 10 I was mostly just dressing her in the outfits and putting her on display. By 11 it was embarrassing to have her out. It was our little sisters who would "play" with them. I still think pushing 10 is outgrowing those dolls.
Agree, they're overpriced. I feel guilty now about it. I swear every girl I knew had one and few of our parents could really afford them. Plus all the outfits and accessories added up. It's crazy how all our parents found a way to make it happen, they probably shouldn't have.
American Girl Doll outfits can be found cheaply at craft stores and flea markets. My daughter played with hers till about age 9, having received her at age 6 after a year of really wanting one. Molly :) She had a tea party once where all the girls brought their AG dolls and we served toy food for them, and party food for the real girls! Another time she did a video book report with a script she wrote using the dolls as actors of a WW2 scene. Very educational.
I was just thinking the same thing, Njgal51, keep scrolling.
Target and Amazon sell Our Generation dolls, which is the less-expensive knock-off of the American Girl. They're $19.99 (sale right now) and really are cute...not bad at all, and a much more affordable alternative to the AG dolls. They also come with lots of accessories, table high chairs, jeeps, tents, horses, beds, etc., that cost much less than the AG versions.
I was in Target recently, and a little girl was in the doll aisle, looking at these dolls. She pulled one of the shelf, took it to her mother and asked, "Isn't this the most beautiful doll you've ever seen?" It was so cute. Mom said to put it on her list for Santa.
OT something super cute:
Timesdispatch.com/cheetah-cam
On topic: whatever did happen to Twist of Kate? That is footage I would watch. One would think that if TLC had even six episodes, they would have broadcast that much. What was so horrendously horrendous to make it never see the light of day? Speculation, anyone?
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FRP, not exactly true. Tom's not heavily involved with Scientology. He weaves in and out but talks like he's a fanatic. He goes to their events but he's not involved that much in the day to day aspect. He's basically just a spokesperson who's been heralded as some kind of hero.
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I am almost 100% positive that you are incorrect. I do believe Tom Cruise is heavily involved in Scientology, and he's one of their favorite public faces. He is Scientology royalty, so he doesn't have to deal with a lot of what the "underlings" might deal with - but he is indeed very proud of being a Scientologist, is openly one, and I think that's why Katie Holmes had to sort of plan a "jail break" in order to divorce him.
If you search online, you can easily find a number of videos where Tom talks about his Scientology beliefs. One time, he was on the Today Show and I think claimed that post partum depression was bunk. He was being dismissive of Brooke Shields at the time, who had shared about her own PPD. (Negative backlash, and his publicist probably told him to shut up about it)
He did a video for Scientology that you can find on youtube, along with some hilarious spoofs.
Anyway, he's firmly entrenched in that cult. Because it is a cult, I won't go see any films with Tom Cruise. Will Smith is also a Scientologist (so sad, as he was such a promising young actor), and of course, crazy Kirstie Alley.
Sue said... 63
Speaking of #superfunpumpkincarving where are the promised pictures of that and Shoka's party?
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Stored away with the pictures of the 1000's of easter eggs SHE filled and the beautiful easter baskets SHE did.
I was/am quite willing to buy one for my granddaughter. Her mother who is much like TFW, says no way. Not on principle about anything, but because the little girl wants one so bad.
She reminds me so much of TFW, it gives her pleasure to deprive the little girl of happiness. Depriving me of the pleasure of giving it to her is a bonus.
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Yep. There is no forgiveness and there never will be, no matter what good deeds are done, and no matter how many years pass with him clearly doing his best for the children. There will be no forgiveness from a certain corner. Yet, strangely enough, there is compassion for TFW from the same corner.
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But that doesn't take away from Ex Nurse's point in that a young family signing a 5 YEAR contract is a bit daft in the head.
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While I wish they had not signed that second contract, I can see why they did. They got used to the income, the perks, the easy life. What was the term of the first contract? Certainly not five years, perhaps it was one year? So at that point, even though filming is intrusive, the kids are far from school years, and both parents think - let's make more money, and when the kids start school, we'll be done with filming. (Or perhaps only one parent thinks this!)
If they are told, "5 year contracts are standard" and "It's this or nothing at all", then there's the catch. I agree it was very, very foolish to enter into this contract with good legal representation. There is no excuse for that lapse in judgment. But I can also believe Kate pushing Jon if he tried to take time to get an attorney, by insisting that it wasn't necessary and emphasizing they would be in the poor house if they lost this opportunity.
I would say that merely signing a five year contract does not make anyone daft, young family or old farts.
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I had thought American Girl Dolls were for younger kids, too, but it seems to be the later elementary age girls that are taken with them.
IMO they are very over priced. The doll itself is good quality but the clothes are cheap fabric and poorly made, imo.
I was astounded at the prices...$110 for the doll, and $45 for one outfit (which included one or two small accessories).
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If I had had a daughter, I would have been thrilled. But at times, I think "thank goodness I had a boy." At least I was spared the American Doll expenses!
My sisters and I did have various dolls given to us as we were growing up, but we grew up out in the country. Most of our time was spent playing out doors, not with our dolls. I'm afraid our dolls were not cared for and kept in perfect condition. I remember spending the night at a friend's house once who had a lot of Barbie dolls, the Barbie dream house, and all sorts of other Barbie extras. I wanted to play but I remember my friend's mother reminding us both to be very careful and not mess up anything. I did have a longing for all the goodies my friend had, and I told my mother about them in the car ride home. My mom listened and oohed and aahed, But by the time my birthday or Christmas came around, I had long forgotten and I did not get any expensive Barbie stuff.
I got interested in Barbie dolls in the 5th grade, after other girls my age had put them away. I had been into tomboy activities up to that point. The outfits would have run up quite a bill, but my dear mother could sew.
Fairly often I would come home from school to find Barbie, Midge, Skipper or Ken had a brand new outfit. I don't have the dolls anymore, but I still have the clothes. Great memories.
I can understand the interest Alexis has in her doll - but I agree that feeding the doll lunch seems like something a much younger child would
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Layla said... 74
I just read the new gosselinbook post and the article attached, and I'm really shocked at how little attention TFW pays to her kids.
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I just did a search of Robert's book and found a few excerpts.
The kids are driven or flown long hours to a location where they’re marched around and told what to say and what to do and how to act so they can be filmed like little actors and actresses. They’re never allowed to do what THEY want to do. It’s very frustrating for them.
On a recent ‘adventure’ to the beach, on Bald Head Island in North Carolina, TLC was filming as the kids saw the ocean for the first time that trip. They were so excited to run down to the water from their beach house and play and splash around like normal kids when they hit the beach. The ‘adventure’ the Gosselin kids got to experience that day was three minutes of being filmed as they ran down to the water’s edge. Then they were immediately told to return to the house because they had more filming to do elsewhere. They were shuttled like cattle down to the water for a few minutes of filming and then marched right back to the house and taken somewhere else. Can you imagine their disappointment and frustration when they weren’t allowed to play on the beach, after a ten-hour car ride?
Hoffman, Robert (2012-09-27).
The kids are told where to go, how to act, what to say, what to do to fit each episode’s pre-planned and ‘scripted’ storyline. They’re tricked, lied to, bribed with lollypops and candy, threatened with violence by Kate and/ or deprived of food and drink if they don’t perform to Kate’s satisfaction. Kate tells the world that the kids love filming and their world would collapse if the filming stopped. She says that they’re getting to go on all of these “adventures” and get to have all of these wonderful new experiences. That’s all BS and the public eats it up. How much will a three or four-year-old remember from a trip to New Zealand at that age? The problem I see is that all of these ‘family adventures’ are actually the worst kind of torture you could put a small child through. The kids are driven or flown long hours to a location where they’re marched around and told what to say and what to do and how to act so they can be filmed like little actors and actresses. They’re never allowed to do what THEY want to do. It’s very frustrating for them.
Hoffman, Robert (2012-09-27).
How about sitting around your house as kids on Thanksgiving day, not celebrating Thanksgiving like everyone else because your mommy is too tired to wake up and watch the staff cook the Thanksgiving meal, because she got in too late the night before from filming in California? Then you celebrate Thanksgiving the next day, on Black Friday by being dressed up in Indian costumes and paraded out on the front lawn for the paparazzi to photograph you having a great time? That’s how the Gosselin children spent their Thanksgiving in 2010. Did you see the photos of poor Collin standing there in his little Indian dress? I’ll bet his classmates did..
Hoffman, Robert (2012-09-27).
On another recent trip, this time to Alaska, Mady couldn’t take it anymore and called Jon the night before, begging for him to come and get her and take her back to his apartment. She absolutely did not want to go away for more filming, especially as far away as Alaska. I know this because I went to Kate’s house that night with Jon to pick up Mady and I heard the discussion between Jon and Kate – through the intercom at the gate. Kate completely disregarded Jon’s concerns about Mady and blew it off by saying that Mady was just tired and she didn’t mean what she said. She of course managed to insult Jon several times during the exchange. This was at night, in the dark, with no paparazzi watching; just a father coming to get his unhappy daughter who had called him for help. Jon told Kate that he would be back in the morning to get Mady and Kate told him that she would have the police at the house to arrest him if he tried. Well what I found most interesting about the Alaska trip was the family photo that TLC released to the media to promote the episode. Google it and look at it closely for yourself. You’ll see a very smiley Kate with the kids. But if you look at Mady, on the far right, you’ll see how sad and miserable she is. She’s crying in the publicity photo. Yes, Mady has assumed most of Kate’s diva-like tendencies and she’s a bit dramatic, but that’s all the proof I needed to see that she didn’t want to be there. TLC couldn’t come up with one single publicity still where Mady even appeared a little bit happy? Not one
Re dolls: when oldest daughter was almost twelve, one day she told me that it was too bad she would have to put her Barbie dolls away. Because everyone knew when you were twelve you couldn't play with dolls anymore. She still LIKED playing with dolls, but she said her friends would tease her so she had to stop. I told her not to do that, to play with what she wanted to, and to blame me. I told her to say that her mean old mom made her play Barbies with her baby sister sometimes.
Now she still plays The Sims 3, which is essentially a doll house on the computer screen. You can redecorate any time you want! And my son in law still likes Lego Star Wars projects, thank goodness, I know what to get him for Christmas.
Millicent agree. And another point, when talent signs a 5 year contract there could have been other things negotiated for it. If you got double the pay and a rider and a bigger traitor and better craft services and an assistant and stylist thrown in, signing onto that might be the wisest choice you ever made. As opposed to none of those things if you demand only year to year. It all depends on the negotiation whether signing on is smart or not.
Think she grifted the American Girl dolls? Or got her fans to send them?
I can't see her walking into the store and paying for expensive dolls and clothes to go with.
OTH, she has no problem purchasing spendy Legos, so maybe the doll thing was ok.
In either case, it doesn't sound like a single mom a-piecin' N patchin'.
I don't see the point of Kate even tweeting that picture anyway. BUT, she does not randomly do anything so I guess it was to imply she had the kids and not Jon.
Maybe it's just me, but it always bothered me that they did not believe in Santa Claus. What's the harm? What wonderful memories those days can be. Is it just because Kate had to let those children know that she is the toy provider? Even good ol' St. Nick didn't get a chance in that household. I just love Xmas time when the little kids are true believers in something so magical.
Robert claims he has all the contracts for J & K + 8, including the rough draft of the original contract dated October 4, 2006. (Kindle location around 5190)
I can't find anywhere where it says it's a five-year contract, but these are just excerpts. The entire contract was 17 pages long which I don't think is included in the book. My attention span is about five minutes. I'd make a lousy lawyer.
When I was 9 I was playing with dolls. My best friend and I had the same kind of doll and we'd lay a blankets out on the front lawn and feed them and dress them and trade outfits.
Back in the day I had a Barbie with the horrible pony tail and the very pointy nose. I decided that her nose was too pointy so I pressed her face against a hot light bulb to give her a nose job. My parents were not happy with me and poor Barbie looked like she'd been in a very disfiguring accident. We kids thought it was great fun. I guess I was never really in to dolls because growing up down the shore we spent most of our days on the beach, swimming in the summer and riding bikes on the boardwalk in the winter. I never did get another Barbie but did perform secret operations on other dolls.
Just had to comment on the upthread observation that Kate was not educated being a diploma nurse. I say a very respectful PFTTT to you. I am a diploma educated nurse and that included classes from a local university in anatomy,physiology, chemistry, microbiology, and English. I didn't know they existed any longer, but were common and gave a good education. Most nurses continued on a degree path as I did, completeing my masters the year after my second child graduated college.
http://radaronline.com/2013/11/kate-gosselin-cookbook-bombs-slammed-by-readers/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
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I bet ROL is one of those "trashy" gossip sites now. lol
ROL has a new post on TFW and her bombing cookbook. There are some comments posted from Amazon on what a waste of money the book was. I especially like the dig by ROL that some of the positive comments on the book may have been posted by the Gosselin kids, lol.
http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2013/11/kate-gosselin-cookbook-bombs-slammed-by-readers/
Must be a slow news day.
http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2013/11/kate-gosselin-cookbook-bombs-slammed-by-readers/
I thought ROL supported Kate. Or is ROL one of those that put out crap?
The twins filmed an episode at American Girl in NYC and got to see the show, have lunch and received new dolls and outfits. Wouldn't be surprised if the company gave the tup girls dolls. Didn't Kate say the twins gave their old AG clothes to the tups as a birthday gift?
How is Kate's coupon site doing- she hasn't mentioned it lately.
Mel: Didn't one of the twins last year, give her American Girl doll to one of the tup girls, Kate posted picks and /or blogged about it?
As for the In Touch article. The cover words, sound more nasty, then the article itself. But, the article does not glamerize, support Kate by any means. They point out the highs of her popularity compare to the recent. They have a pic of her in a bathing suit, talking about botox(Milo will be drooling over) and plastic surgery, that Kate denies. And to put a nail in the coffin, a smiling pic of Jon and a pic of him waiting tables, and how happy he is, unlike Kate, who look like lolliypop on a stick. The pic on the cover makes her look very old.
Formerly Duped said... 105
How is Kate's coupon site doing- she hasn't mentioned it lately.
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Milo seems to be the only who cares about it these days. lol
getofftwitter, I was just going to comment on the In Touch article as well. They got some facts wrong in the section describing her life "From The High Life..To The Simple Life". Basically, they had her on DWTS in 2012 and named her new book "Love Is in the Air" (even though they had the correct name above it in the article).
OT - TFW is too boring…
Here's a very inspirational video for women "of a certain age." Love the women & their zest for life! They don't give a @#$% what anyone thinks, they just do their own thing!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4znrNtLKDE4&feature=youtu.be
Haven't read all the comments yet, so if this has been addressed, I apologize, but I'm going to throw this out anyway. Does anyone think that maybe, just maybe, TFMJG held the kids hostage to ensure Jon's cooperation when they were still together? I don't mean that she kept them tied up in the basement, but I think it's a distinct possibility that she used the kids as leverage with him to make him toe the line. It would certainly be her style and I don't think she'd have any compunctions about it.
The thing that struck me about the TLC contract that Robert published in his book, was the part about TLC being able to void the contract if the family had 7 days total "incapacity". I was never clear on if that was 7 days over the life of the contract or 7 days per filming season, but that is not much time. A bad bout with the flu could last more than 7 days with a family of that size. It certainly explains why the kids were always being filmed sick.
I suspect that what TFMJG is referring to as her contract just now ending with TLC is a "non-compete" agreement, rather than an actual filming contract. Many contracts, especially in the entertainment industry, don't allow a "star" to sign with another network or company for a certain period of time after the end of their contract.
Oh, yeah, you're right. There was something about the twins going to the American Girl doll store on TLC's dime. I forgot about that. Suppose TLC paid for the dolls, etc.?
Excerpt from the rol article. Hysterial.
The customer reviews on Amazon are about as devastatingly bad as they come, and as far as we can tell, ex-husband Jon Gosselin didn’t pen any of them.
jJ 109 That was great. Thanks.
Has anyone been getting the ads to meet and chat with the "pretty Tai" girls? I've gotten so many invitations to chat with gals in Taiwan. They're not bad looking, but dang, I miss Stephanie. She was my very best favorite!
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Formerly Duped said... 105
How is Kate's coupon site doing- she hasn't mentioned it lately.
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Milo seems to be the only who cares about it these days. lol
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Why would anyone fool around with that mess when they can go directly to the manufacturer's or store's site and get the same deals there?
OT - any other trekkies here?
http://news.yahoo.com/captain-kirk-navy-destroyer-135551630.html
http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2013/11/kate-gosselin-cookbook-bombs-slammed-by-readers/
I thought ROL supported Kate. Or is ROL one of those that put out crap?
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Those comments are so funny (and dead-on)! While I was reading them I kept thinking about Gladys and how she insists that everyone the world over loves and adores Kate. She's the role model for young girls and moms everywhere! She could have fooled me!
I liked how supportive the contestants were of each other on Master Chef. Alexander stopped what he was doing to help Dara when she felt faint. He also gave her some flour when she couldn't find hers. It was a rare treat to see a friendly competition on reality t.v. Who knew it would be from kids?
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I think Twist of Kate crashed and burned. K+8 was bad enough, even with the kids to make it cute and interesting. But TFW without the kids? Frightening. She's boring, only talks about herself, b$tchy, narcissistic, entitled. I bet it was impossible to get her to do anything. I remember hearing that she was filming in a restaurant, apparently working there, and they had to draw the blinds so nobody could see her from the outside. Can't you just hear her? "They're congregating in the parking lot! People are taking unauthorized pictures! I'm a photo op!" And after the Alaska episode of K+8, we know that she is hell on wheels when she's denied her life of luxury. It would have been a huge battle to get her to do anything. And then she'd just complain about how things weren't sanitary enough. TLC, I'm sure, figured out that TFW by herself was never going to work. She'd demand a huge salary and make filming a nightmare. Best to just let it go.
Why would anyone fool around with that mess when they can go directly to the manufacturer's or store's site and get the same deals there?
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There are also a couple sites that are well established like retailmenot and another site that looks very similar that already has all the coupons out there, not to mention feedback from users about whether they work. I have used that hundreds of times and saved many times.
Unless you've got something new and unique to offer and are an expert at building such sites, you have NO business trying to start such a site. I have no idea what that was other than maybe a content farm.
"Love Is in the Air" (even though they had the correct name above it in the article).
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LOL. A cookbook called Love is in the Air? That's a bit odd. Sounds like a soft core porn movie that maybe takes place in an airplane.
Excerpt from the rol article. Hysterial.
The customer reviews on Amazon are about as devastatingly bad as they come, and as far as we can tell, ex-husband Jon Gosselin didn’t pen any of them.
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Baw hahahah. Have they been reading here?? Yes, Jon is behind everything. It's a conspiracy!
No Kate, they're just bad reviews. Bad ones. Lots of them. And they're funny.
Blowiing In The Wind said... 117
Those comments are so funny (and dead-on)! While I was reading them I kept thinking about Gladys and how she insists that everyone the world over loves and adores Kate.
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I know. FUFK must be horribly upset that ROL wrote how TFW's LIITM is DOA.
Hey Gladys. Care for a nice tall glass of I-told-ya-so to wash down that big bowl of crow?
LOL. A cookbook called Love is in the Air? That's a bit odd. Sounds like a soft core porn movie that maybe takes place in an airplane.
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That would be "Cooking With Milo In The Mile High Club."
Ewww!!
So no one thought that was an odd name for a cookbook when they typed this? And how did they get love is in the "air" out of love is in the "mix"??
Maybe it was a freudian slip, the cookbook is full of hot air!
And to put a nail in the coffin, a smiling pic of Jon and a pic of him waiting tables, and how happy he is, unlike Kate, who look like lolliypop on a stick. The pic on the cover makes her look very old.
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You know your attempts to look sexy have failed when a magazine refers to a source saying: "She was extremely skinny. She looked like a lollipop - a big head on a very thin body."
The article has a picture of her lying on her back (in Mexico?) in a bikini. I believe we've seen it before. Her chest from that angle literally looks like mouseketeer ears. Purple balloons. No exaggeration.
That would be "Cooking With Milo In The Mile High Club."
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That's where the angels decided to create dream come true... so they sprinkled moon-dust....
As I explained, anonymous, the older girls got the American girl dolls to put them on display after dressing them. It was taken quite seriously. We didn't "play dolls" at that age, we were long past that. Maybe it was because kids are growing up faster lately. The little kids, like I'm talking our 6-7 year old siblings, were the ones to "play" tea and baby and whatnot with the dolls. The older girls treated them like something to put out and show off after you chose their outfit and props.
This is just a fact from my own experience. We valued the dolls and understood they were expensive. We had our regular toys and then there was the American girl. They were showpieces, not play things. Maybe that is not how kids play with them today. Maybe kids these days don't understand how expensive they are. In fact I remember many parents saying little Sally or whoever is not "old enough yet" for an American girl. That's how it started anyhow, this was in the company's infancy.
That would be "Cooking With Milo In The Mile High Club."
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That's where the angels decided to create dream come true... so they sprinkled moon-dust....
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Laughing so hard here. I can her singing in the clouds. If nothing else, sheeple are great for good chuckles every now and then!
Didn't a fan say she wanted to get the girls American Girl dolls? I seem to recall someone tweeting to TFW & asking questions. Maybe this year or last year?
Suzy
OT again. I highly recommend tonight's 60 Minutes segment on GoPro Cameras.
I think it is the first segment.
Amazing.
Speaking if barbies and toys, I had a troll doll. You know, the ones with the colorful hair that stands straight up. One day, I decided to give him a buzz cut.
This is what I thought of when I heard they used "Love is in the Air" in that article.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNC0kIzM1Fo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4znrNtLKDE4&feature=youtu.be
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jJ 109 That was great. Thanks.
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The documentary is great isn't it? And one of the women even wears Crocs!
Kate's TL, like the cookbook, is DOA. Milo is still tweeting pictures of baby animals. She's fuming because Barb is still the winner of the contest. She's not going to let this go until she tops Barb. Amusing!
By comparison, fellow reality TV mom Tori Spelling‘s Spelling It Like It Is is winning raves from customers and is number 41 on Amazon’s list.
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LOL. I love that they rub it in that other ex-reality stars don't seem to have any trouble selling THEIR books.
Rhymes with witch, we watched sixty minutes tonight and saw the Go Pro segment. I always wondered about amazing photography in the extreme sport films, now we know how they do it!
NJGal, when dd was about for we went to the beach and took a couple of Barbies and one Ken doll. I was reading a book, dd was playing in the sand, I looked up and asked where Ken was. The Barbies buried him! No reason, they thought it would be fun. We never did find Ken, he got buried so well.
Tori was an actress long before she was an ex-reality TV star! And she appears to really enjoy her kids, too.
FRP
Somewhere In Time said... 135
Kate's TL, like the cookbook, is DOA. Milo is still tweeting pictures of baby animals. She's fuming because Barb is still the winner of the contest. She's not going to let this go until she tops Barb. Amusing!
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I noticed that her TL is dead but the haters are still tweetin geach other. I think they are boycotting her feed. Remember they did that before to show they aer the ones keeping her TL alive...
I'm so confused! The article on Robert's site about Bald Head is from 2010. But they went to Bald Head Island in 2009 to "escape" the free kitchen renovation.
Did they go to Bald Head twice? I don't see another episode listed for Bald Head?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Kate_Plus_8_episodes
local -- They went to BHI several times. The trip referred to in the article is the one where TFMJG made the kids go to pirate school, the twins took surfing lessons (and the surfing instructor made TFMJG try it and told her to stop shrieking). The second half of the hour was the infamous deep sea fishing episode.
Somewhere In Time said... 135
Kate's TL, like the cookbook, is DOA. Milo is still tweeting pictures of baby animals. She's fuming because Barb is still the winner of the contest. She's not going to let this go until she tops Barb. Amusing!
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LOL, yes, it is! Milo's now desperate to feel #1 in Kate's heart again and #1 in amusing and entertaining the kids. Milo's always saying, "Show the kids this! This will make Alexis laugh! This is for the twins!" I'm not sure Kate has ever acknowledged that she showed the kids any of it? But Kate sure did acknowledge some of the baby animals that others sent.
Also, Kate has tweeted a lot of her fans recently, but it's been a week for Milo. If TFW doesn't respond soon, Milo's due for a 3-day sulk.
Loved the ROL article. Yes, the "book is bombing" story has been told already, but some stories just never get old...
I wonder how Milo feels about the Great Cookbook Failure of 2013 (not to be confused with the Great Cruise Failure of 2012, the Great Blogging Failure of 2012, or the Epic Reality TV Failure of 2011). Remember when she tweeted that ALL TFW's fans would buy it, and ALL the haters would buy it, too, just so they could pick it apart. She convinced herself that this was going to be a huge success for TFW. Hahahahaha.
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OT again. I highly recommend tonight's 60 Minutes segment on GoPro Cameras.
I think it is the first segment.
Amazing.
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Hi Rhymes. I saw that segment, too. The footage is breathtaking (almost as breathtakingly beautiful as TFW). What a brilliant idea for that young man, now a billionaire, to have come up with. It is even more brilliant that the world at large has become the best marketing tool for the GoPro.
If nothing else, sheeple are great for good chuckles every now and then!
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Yep. "If nothing else" is right. Maybe TFW's camp hired them solely for entertainment purposes?
Camp. How many is that? Two? lol!
I have to wonder if TFW is busily working on her next Best Seller? It only entails browsing through photos of her children, right?
TFWs ego comes out again when fans start using her mediocre chocolate cake recipe and start making it their own family tradition. I could have found the same recipe on the back of a Betty Crocker box. It's hard to keep up with all these fake Gosselin traditions. Maybe admin needs to compile a list.
I'm so confused! The article on Robert's site about Bald Head is from 2010. But they went to Bald Head Island in 2009 to "escape" the free kitchen renovation.
Did they go to Bald Head twice? I don't see another episode listed for Bald Head?
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yes, I believe they did. I watched Robert's link the other day (or as much as I could stand) and WOS says something in there (or another link, like the ask WOS questions), and she said it was a 'tradition' that they go to BHI each summer....
I don't think they've been since the TLC turned off the lights..
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I think the stupid cow 'honestly' thought the show would go on forever.
Hailey Glassman back in the "news".
http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2013/11/jon-kate-gosselin-lawsuit-seeking-subpoena-hailey-glassman/
PJ
Radar says Kate threatening to subpoena Hailey Glasssman. I smell desperation.
I do believe Kate was at Bald Head Island more than once.
In 10 years Kate will be nearing 50 years old, the kids will all be of legal age and most likely out of the house. Is she still going to be suing Jon? Maybe her life long job is to get revenge on him and any one else she feels wronged her. What a way to live.
There were 3 times that the Gosselins went to BHI. The first time was with Jon and Kate in 2008-they made 3 episodes out of it.
"Heading South","Wild Horses" and "Beach Trip" which aired in Aug. 2008.
Then Kate and the kids went in 2009, with 3 episodes filmed, "Renovations & Vacations", "Beach and Kitchen Reveal ", and "Battleships & Barbers" which aired in Aug. 2009.
The last time they went was in 2010 with 2 episodes, "Pirates, Kites, and Turtles. Oh My!" and "A Rough Ride" which aired in Sept. 2010. This was the time that the article posted on Robert's blog was written about.
Admin's recap of those 2 episodes can be read here;
http://www.realitytvkids.com/2010/09/recap-pirates-kites-and-turtles-9610.html
http://www.realitytvkids.com/2010/09/recap-rough-ride-91310-while-we-watch.html
"and both Jon and Kate’s respective attorneys have been hounding her to participate in the legal battle."
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First off, who leaked this little tid bit? Secondly BOTH legal teams want her to testify. This tells me that the texts were FAKE or she sent them herself. I don't know how you do it, but a student at my daughter's school sent fake "bullying" texts (like why don't you kill yourself!) to herself from "another girl's" cell phone. Police were called in etc...so it can be done.
@TLC you're right, desperation and being a bull headed narcissist.
http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2013/11/kate-gosselin-cookbook-bombs-slammed-by-readers/
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Baha! That one just seems like "yeah, let's just write something nasty about her". It's like it came from nowhere. Someone just wanted to do it. No leaks, no insider info-just "this cookbook sucks"
Somehow I can't see Tuma running to ROL with his of his plans for the lawsuit...Just my opinion, however. And as has been pointed out numerous times, those texts were so long ago, nothing could be proved about them now.
Thanks guys now I see those episodes listed in the episode list..still don't know why they thought people would want to watch an entitled family go on lavish vacations?
Somehow I can't see Tuma running to ROL with his of his plans for the lawsuit...
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I wasn't inferring that it was Tuma, I'm thinking it's someone closer to tfw that's leaking stuff. You know, someone "other" than JON JON JON :)
Isn't tomorrow the deadline for TFW's response to the MTD?
First off, who leaked this little tid bit? Secondly BOTH legal teams want her to testify. This tells me that the texts were FAKE or she sent them herself.
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My thoughts exactly. If Jon's side wants her it's because they know from Jon the texts are fake. I'm pretty convinced they are fake based on Hailey's behavior. I think she was just being a shit stirrer and sent some fake texts to Kate to rile the pot. Remember how Hailey said you can't show these to anyone, and then when Kate wanted to use the texts Hailey freaked and sent some long email about how her family wanted her to stop getting involved in the Gosselins? And then HAILEY gave some interview where she trashed Kate? WTH? That is very strange behavior. That is the behavior of someone who realizes their little stunt just got out of hand. That is not the behavior of someone who is simply passing on some authentic texts that might be helpful to someone else. It was HINKY behavior. The behavior of someone backpedaling. Jon would know whether those texts were fake, and if he told Tuma the God's honest trust is she made those up, I can see how Tuma would want to put Hailey on the stand to show that Kate's whole suit is delusional.
There's a program that allows you to send a text from your computer. I don't know how it works or if it verifies the " from" phone number. IF Haley sent texts while she was still with or shortly after she broke up with Jon she could have used this because she would have had access to all his phone information.
Found it:
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Order and stipulation that plaintiff shall have through November 12, 2013 to file a response to the defendants’ motions to dismiss.
Signed November 5th by judge and entered today, November 6th
Did Hailey actually show Kate her PHONE? I doubt it, since it kind of looks like this conversation happened all over email. If Hailey simply showed Kate printouts, it would be as easy as pie to send some texts to herself from someone else then when printing them out simply change the phone number they came from by typing in Jon's. Like I said, when Hailey was actually pressed by Kate to use those texts to get Jon, Hailey high tailed it out of there. She backed out of that mess fast. Like I said, I think she was playing games and stirring the pot and then when she realized oh crap Kate actually wants to USE these texts in the court of law??? Yowser, I'm outta here! Robert has already denied the authenticities of those texts, he said something about the timing being way off and he and Jon weren't even friends then or something, I can't remember but it made the texts out to be one big whopper of a lie.
I came across this great article about kids when you think they may have an ungodly stronghold a hold against them. I know kate couldn't care less, but I wish Jon was able to read it.
Here's the link: http://www.charismamag.com/spirit/spiritual-warfare/13290-stormie-omartian-warning-signs-you-need-to-break-ungodly-strongholds-in-your-children
And on another note - happy Veteran's Day. A day to remember those who served and honor those who continue to serve.
I skimmed the Bald Head recaps and I think it lays out some of the manners and morals/values issues that Jon is concerned about. They were starting even then. Especially the twins, who were ungrateful about the free beach house and very rude to their surf instructors. Kate can say all she wants everything is fine, but there is film to prove Jon's concerns about the kids' attitudes and behaviors. This is not the children's fault. The issue is the adults in their lives. Likely many kids would act like this without proper curtailing from adults. I think most kids are inherently selfish and at times often rude. I believe it is an evolutionary defense mechanism to survive that has become no longer necessary, like wisdom teeth. You have to teach and guide them to stop following their selfish instincts and start seeing the world differently and less selfishly, every day. There has clearly been a big lapse in this area for these kids for a long time now, and that is a real shame. Good for Jon for putting his foot down about it.
“She hasn’t responded and doesn’t plan to. Since breaking up with Jon she’s left the Gosselin’s behind her, and that’s exactly where she wants to keep them.”
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She really stepped into it. It's not gonna work that way. If either or both sides want Hailey there, she's going to have to be there. She sounds like an entitled snob, thinking well if I decide I'm not going to get involved in this mess, even though *I* stirred the pot, then I don't have to, so there! Not returning phone calls from attorneys, is she NUTS?
I've seen bench warrants issued for witnesses who decided, ehhh I'd rather not be involved. What's this little subpoena, a piece of paper? Puh-shaw! Court of law don't work that way, Hailey. It will be interesting to see how this shakes out.
Today, I am thankful for all the men and women who have fought to preserve freedom.
It is a day of reflection and gratitude.
I remember the stories of my father. He was a WWII veteran and so proud of his service record.
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Order and stipulation that plaintiff shall have through November 12, 2013 to file a response to the defendants’ motions to dismiss.
Signed November 5th by judge and entered today, November 6th
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I thought there was an extension until Nov 22nd?
Oh maybe...i thought what I posted was the stipulation.
We had a discussion here when the "texts" were first released. You can find that discussion here. Scroll down to the comments dated April 8:
http://www.realitytvkids.com/2013/04/the-people-vs-larry-flynt-was-falwell.html
This is part of what Robert said regarding the texts:
"In October of 2009, where the fake texts say that Jon got me the ‘hard drive,’ I was working for US weekly and Jon didn’t trust me as far as he could throw me. He and I were nowhere near close enough on October 14, 2009 that he would trust me with something like that. Not even close. The last thing he would have done is give me access to Kate’s ‘hard drive’ which was also his ‘hard drive.’ They shared a computer back then. He trusted nobody, especially somebody working for US Weekly, the tabloid that started this whole mess."
To refresh everyone's memory, these are the alleged texts:
http://amradaronline.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/sms.jpg
Also, these are the email exchanges between Kate and Hailey, which at one time ROL had removed, but they are now back up:
http://radaronline.com/photos/email-exchanges-between-kate-gosselin-hailey-glassman-proof-kate-took-jons-incriminating-correspondence-2/photo/513612/
I said then and I'll say now that I believe those texts are fake.
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Just to let everyone know. Kate's lawyer just filed a stipulation. The lawyers all agreed that Kate's lawyer be allowed extra time, until November 12, to respond to the Motions to Dismiss. It should be interesting to read Kate's lawyer's response.
In the court of public opinion Kate's batting 0 - oblivious to her surroundings and what is reality. Bullyville and cookbook were both smoke screens to access Jon and Robert. Take the " Hoffman book" out of the dynamic, she is still mean , selfish, abusive, and a lier. So what is exactly her point? Claims of being bullied ? Laughable. Claims of no job opportunities ? Laughable
Much has been documented for years and years of Kate's infractions. I have never witnessed more negativity toward one person for this duration of time. I also believe it has spiked tremendously in recent months. If I have said it once I have said it a thousand times. Kate brings nothing and I mean nothing to the table. If you read back years and years ago she was the same as today. There is a defect with her. She will not change / has not changed and completely and utterly believes she is unfairly labeled. How do you help that kind of a person who just doesn't get " it"? When 99.9 % of the public does not like you how do you move forward? It's that 1% she lives for / tweets to / blogs for and writes sorry ass responses for. Sloppy cookbooks/ unmaintained websites/ incomplete blog stories/ ? This woman is more inept than you think.she is a mess. And I feel for 1 night a week and every other weekend those kids are away from a hellish life. Having a big house does not exclude you from being abuse/ exploited you just have more room to hide.
Kate can say all she wants everything is fine, but there is film to prove Jon's concerns about the kids' attitudes and behaviors. This is not the children's fault. The issue is the adults in their lives.
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This goes back to a point I've made before that just like there are adults we just do not like, there are children that are just "unlikeable" to their peers. The parents are to blame. Stuff goes on at school, the kid is called out and then the parents back that child up NO MATTER WHAT. We don't live in a Kumbaya world, sorry.
"In October of 2009, where the fake texts say that Jon got me the ‘hard drive,’ I was working for US weekly and Jon didn’t trust me as far as he could throw me.
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Can anyone remember when exactly did Hailey enter the picture?
And on another note - happy Veteran's Day. A day to remember those who served and honor those who continue to serve.
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Yes, a day to honor and remember those who have fallen, fought and continue to fight. And bless the peacekeepers.
I have never witnessed more negativity toward one person for this duration of time.
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So true. Why is that? For me I know why, but there are new people just becoming aware.
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Can anyone remember when exactly did Hailey enter the picture?
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July, 2009
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/jon-gosselin-shows-new-girlfriend-hailey-glassman-st-tropez-article-1.427278
PJ
Thanks PJ.
Darn it! Was hoping they hadn't "hooked" up yet lol
The ROL article with regard to Hailey's texts said, according to a source, Jon's attorney has been emailing Hailey since the lawsuit began and Jon is desperate. You just gotta love these articles and the so called sources they use. Umm, Jon has a damn good lawyer so why would he be desperate. I can see TFW running around screaming in desperation but not Jon. The comments were all negative towards Kate. People really, really don't like her.
Hmm-I wonder whatever happened to the lawyers from Woodcock Washburn LLP that Kate(according to the emails) wanted Hailey to speak to? Guess they didn't think Kate had a case either.
Dmasy amen, and thank you for your nice avatar.
Thank you to all the men and women who have served, are serving or will serve our country. And thank you to their families as well. I hope that every one of them currently in harm's way will return home safely.
Please, if you see a Vet or active service member today, or any day really, extend a hand to say "thank you."
Dmasy, I'm glad you have stories about your father, and that he was proud of his service record. I am grateful to him and everyone who has sacrificed to protect us. Thank you for sharing that.
The thing that struck me about the TLC contract that Robert published in his book, was the part about TLC being able to void the contract if the family had 7 days total "incapacity". I was never clear on if that was 7 days over the life of the contract or 7 days per filming season, but that is not much time. A bad bout with the flu could last more than 7 days with a family of that size. It certainly explains why the kids were always being filmed sick.
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That struck me like a bolt of lightening when I first read it. It goes a LONG way in understanding why the kids were filmed sick and injured-- why 6/7 kids are puking their guts up into stinking, vile chum buckets and TFW refused to call it a day and turn that g-d boat around, even though they were the only passengers.
Kate signed those kids' lives away.
If Hailey is forced to appear in court, can she be considered to be a hostile witness? She indicated to TFW months ago that she and her family wanted nothing to do with this case. Her email texts don't prove anything and considering she doesn't even want to be involved in this case, would they be thrown out?
I believe a Hailey Glassman is a spoiled rich girl living off mommy and daddy. I think Jon got wise and dumped her. She enjoyed the paps following like she was a celebrity but got pissed when a Jon dumped her. Those texts are fake, no doubt about it. She probably threatened Jon and said she'd do something like that. She probably got the idea because Jon vented to her about Kate. Even IF proven authentic, it still does not prove that Jon and a Robert collaborated on that book. And why would Jon need to steal a hard drive when he already had a copy? It makes no sense. Jon made a backup copy just like anyone who knows a hard drive will eventually fail and he was not officially divorced at the time so that was his right to use the marital computer. Hailey's excuses that her mother suffers from anxiety so she does not want to get involved is BS. Dr. Glassman needs to hire an attorney for his daughter.
I don't know who Kate used for that ROL leak, but I suspect it definitely came from her inner circle. The other ROL article about the cookbook was just a compilation of public reviews and the fact that the book is not selling well. No one needed to leak that information. Duh!
I wonder whatever happened to Hailey's lawsuit against Kate?
http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2013/04/im-suing-kate-gosselin-for-releasing-my-texts-that-proved-jon-gave-computer-to-author-says-hailey-glassman/
And in the above article is this little tidbit:
“But once I dropped out Kate bullied my mom on the phone with her manipulation tactics. I called Kate to explain why we weren’t doing it and she cut me off and said, ‘Hailey this is good for you. It will clear your reputation and I will state what a good person you are and how you didn’t come into the picture dating Jon until a year after we broke up.’
I may be wrong about this but I think phone texts are not kept indefinitely by the cell phone company? Other than her printouts, which could be manipulated, how could you prove the texts came from Jon's phone? And why would Hailey have printed out texts and kept them for all these years if she wanted to put the Gosselins behind her? Did she attempt to blackmail Jon with fake texts?
I can see it now ... Kate finds out Hailey's texts are fake and she goes on the 'save face' tour, dropping all charges - saying those texts are the only reason she would have ever filed suit ... she's not mean and vindictive ... .... blah blah blah.
Hailey could actually give Kate an 'out' in this whole mess.
Dmasy has the best avatars.
I had my own private minutes of silence & reflection at 11:11 for Veterans Day/Remembrance Day. So sad there are no longer any living soldiers from Armistice Day 1918.
If Hailey wants to stay out of this, she should stop RTing the pot shots Kate's fans tweet.
And if ANYTHING in my life depended on the honesty and/or integrity of Hailey Glassman ... I'd just go ahead and cash in my chips of life now!
I'm not a big fan of Hailey G. and to be fair, I'm not a detractor either. Her parents seem to be very good people, so because of that, I'm sickened by Kate dragging Hailey into her sh#t storm.
The Dr. father did an amazing tummy tuck on Kate FOR FREE because his lovely wife was sympathetic and wanted just to help Kate out. And this is how she repays them.
There are no word for Kate's lack of shame.
Here's a new article about the cookbook on Dlisted. Caution: offensive language.
http://dlisted.com/2013/11/11/someone-needs-to-tell-kate-gosselin-to-stop/#comments
I wonder if Al Walentis will be subpoenaed too because he recounts in his book that Robert (anonymous) and Jon had a pap relationship to cut out any middlemen in Sept. 2009. He identifies in a blog the anonymous pap was Robert and that a Robert was his source. Of course, there is bad blood between those two, so who knows. He said Hailey also verified that Robert was Jon's personal pap; but in my mind this is no different than Kate using Chris Watts. Regardless, that alleged text from Jon to Hailey on Oct. 14 about him "grabbing" the hard drive makes no sense. You don't steal a hard drive, you make a copy. Jon was still living on the property in Oct. 2009 because there are pap photos of him picking up the kids at the bus stop.
Not sure of current policies but found this on Cnet:
Wireless providers' current SMS retention policies vary. An internal Justice Department document (PDF) that the ACLU obtained through the Freedom of Information Act shows that, as of 2010, AT&T, T-Mobile, and Sprint did not store the contents of text messages. Verizon did for up to five days, a change from its earlier no-logs-at-all position, and Virgin Mobile kept them for 90 days. The carriers generally kept metadata such as the phone numbers associated with the text for 90 days to 18 months; AT&T was an outlier, keeping it for as long as seven years.
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There were 3 times that the Gosselins went to BHI. The first time was with Jon and Kate in 2008-they made 3 episodes out of it.
"Heading South","Wild Horses" and "Beach Trip" which aired in Aug. 2008.
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Wait, I thought they went to OBX, NC during J+K+8. I believe they were in Corolla or Corolla Light.
Happy Veterans Day everyone! Good Morning America had lots of service members in the audience, including the Coast Guard member of the year. With some help from the GMA crew he proposed to his girlfriend and she said yes, it was very sweet.
Also re GMA, reporter Amy Robach had a mammogram on live TV last month for breast cancer awareness, she is forty and it wad her first one ever. She announced today she was diagnosed with breast cancer because of that, and thanked her coworkers for encouraging her to have her first mammogram ever. Ladies, if you are thirty five or over, get your mamms grammed!
I did some reading online. Text messages are admissable in court but up to the judge. Text messages must be proven "authentic" and there must be collaborating evidence.
http://dlisted.com/2013/11/11/someone-needs-to-tell-kate-gosselin-to-stop/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
Someone Needs To Tell Kate Gosselin To Stop
"Recipes include “Stewed Jon Balls”, “Slow Cooked Children’s Spirit Smothered In Crushed Dreams” and “Sugar Cookies Everyone In Group Therapy Is Going To Love”. Fine, that’s a fat lie but I wish."
The comments are priceless
The Glassmans, IMO, did not have the purest of reasons for the free tummy tuck. He got national advertising for his practice, did he not? I think the wife was appalled by the hanging skin on Kate's belly, but it was a grifting gimmick, probably a Kate idea to do a show and tell, don't you think?
Wait, I thought they went to OBX, NC during J+K+8. I believe they were in Corolla or Corolla Light.
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Tucker's Mom-you are correct, they went to the Outer Banks on J&Kplus8. I read the description of the episode as their going to NC and assumed it was also BHI. Sorry for the confusion.
The other ROL article about the cookbook was just a compilation of public reviews and the fact that the book is not selling well. No one needed to leak that information. Duh!
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And then we have these two delusional nitwits. I wonder what it's like to be on a constant diet of KoolAid, living in a fantasy world of sunshine, lollipops and roses.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 40m
@Kateplusmy8 Here they are >> Many good reviews....people see thru all the stupid #Gator posts! http://www.amazon.com/Kate-Gosselins-Love-Mix-Family-Friendly/product-reviews/0757317642/ref=cm_cr_pr_hist_5?ie=UTF8&filterBy=addFiveStar&showViewpoints=0&sortBy=bySubmissionDateDescending … …
Lauren @ljohnson2006 42m
The @amazon reviews of #LoveIsInTheMix by @Kateplusmy8 are very positive. If only people on her twitter TL knew what that word meant.
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