Friday, November 22, 2013
Judge signs off on Kate's agreement to dismiss the lawsuit in full against Jon with prejudice
It's official. The judge signed the dismissal order on Wednesday. All other parties named in the lawsuit are exempt from this dismissal.
799 sediments (sic) from readers:
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I am so happy for Jon.
Thank you to Jon's attorneys Shawn Tuma and Richard Orwig.
You know whatever inane thing TFW brought home (more organic designer kale?) it can't be near as nice as what Jon has now.
"Signed, sealed and delivered." Whoo hooo Thanks, reader, for finding that for us.
Look at that Kate! The dismissal order has the judge's autograph at the bottom!
Someone should frame that thing and send it to TFW. It would make a lovely Xmas gift. She could hang it over her bed.
You're welcome Tweet-le. I must admit it was a pleasure to see it.
Admin and your staff, thank you for having this discussion and being so fast on the draw.
FlimsyFlamsy said... 135
Sorry, TFW, I ain't takin' the bait about your super-secret holiday surprise. I think you're just lacing up your grifting boots for Christmas,
as well as deflecting from the fiasco you yourself started with that lawsuit.
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Bait, it is.
"Attention! Attention my overseas fans and State-side fans alike! You're officially on notice that Christmas present grifting season is formally open".
Admin, so true that Kate makes a mess and just walks away leaving everyone else to pick up the pieces.
I can't imagine the psychological and emotional damage and undue strain that Kate has inflicted on her own children with this frivolous lawsuit.
The only guarantee of the children's future and safety is for Kate to get professional psychiatric treatment.
She's very, very far from normal. One thing comes to mind lately, after seeing yet another interview on H&F, that really could be put side by side with interviews from 1,2, even 3 years ago, and nothing has changed. Nothing.
Me? I'd be embarrassed to sit there and say, 4 YEARS LATER, that I did not communicate with my ex, let alone co-parent. I'd make it my life's mission to bury the hatchet and successfully be a united front for 8 children before I would give ONE more interview.
Now that would be a terrific example and lesson for the children to witness, not waving goodbye to her as she flits off to Vegas for a 5-hour event, only to return 9 DAYS LATER...
She's so full of shit that if there weren't 8 children caught in her web of craziness and deceit, it would truly be funny.
Thank you, reader. Our community is so generous and helpful.
Congratulations to Jon. May this bring you some peace of mind and allow you to truly look to your future without strings attached, or albatrosses around your neck.
Congratulations, Shawn Tuma. You are a Godsend to the Gosselin children and their father. For the former, I hope you know what you've done for them. Bless you for using you talent for the good.
Our gifts truly should be shared.
To Robert, I hope we can be having the same discussion about you and your part of this case very soon.
I believe your heart is and always was with the Gosselin children, one in particular.
Reader-- thank you for not playing "I've got a secret, nanny nanny boo boo!"
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Shawn Tuma took that complaint and tore it into a million little pieces, Kate's response was to ask for it all to go away. Jon said sure, I'll let you off the hook this time and I won't sue your ass for malicious prosecution but don't you ever bother me again with this nonsense. The sheeple spin that as a win for Kate. I guess they're a little right. Kate got out of the lawsuit before Shawn had her begging for mercy under oath. Win win. They sure scrape the bottom of the barrel looking for an ounce of sunshine.
New post at GosselinBook...DWTS...hee hee.
Yea Jon! It's nice too see competant attorneys prevail. Now we know why she was farting rainbows last night. Guess what we got! Guess what we got! Deflect, deflect, deflect.
I wonder if TFW's attorneys have told her that the remaining portion of her lawsuit has no legs. With Jon out of the picture with whom did Robert conspire? I have to agree with Goody's tweet.
@msgoody2shoes21: IMO @Kateplusmy8's lawsuit against creeper Robert Hoffman should be lesson for celebs & regular folks to SHRED personal info BEFORE TRASHING
Carry on Robert!
INJGal51 said... 11
I wonder if TFW's attorneys have told her that the remaining portion of her lawsuit has no legs. With Jon out of the picture with whom did Robert conspire? I have to agree with Goody's tweet.
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Everyone please remain seated. After a brief intermission we will be viewing Part II of The Rainman Conspiracy.
Who says Kate doesn't entertain us with her antics?
Ten minutes to Wapner.
you know, if she did buy a horse, i guess we can all literally say that she officially IS a dog and pony show...
It just occorred to me that she must have been very worried that Jon might sue her for filing false claims against him. Otherwise, why would she have even thought to have him give up the right to sue her for it? That means she KNEW her lawsuit was nothing but lies, and that she could get in a lot of trouble for filing it. She didn't care at the time of filing, of course, because she never thought Jon could fight back. Now that he did, she knew she needed to cover herself for what she did. How despicable is it to knowingly lie in a lawsuit just to bully another person? We also know that Jon is aware that she knowingly lied. No way in heck is he going to help her go after Hoffman after what she did to him. The sheeple are delusional to even think that.
willowmom said... 10
New post at GosselinBook...DWTS...hee hee.
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My favorite part, where Kate jumps in the cage and they raise it up and leave her there. Thanks, Robert.
What a load she was, telling Tony she wanted the routine to be harder then whined when it was.
Anna Lowe (13) said...
you know, if she did buy a horse, i guess we can all literally say that she officially IS a dog and pony show...
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Good one!
Kate's made plenty of mistakes and it's good that they'll live on here. Where other blogs have folded, this one remains, woohoo! I think her biggest mistake was aligning herself with BV and the "fans". It's pretty clear all the defective ones fed both of them wrong and misleading information. You'd think they'd learn but it continues.
I also wonder if she was told what would be in the deposition and that did her in. Do any of the legal folks here know if questions are just sprung on a plaintiff or defendant the day of the deposition or do they see some of them in advance?
Good one Robert!
Reader, question for you. Can you search for lawsuits by a person's name only? Curious because the BV bully was telling ROL he had 3 lawsuits he was filing personally. One personal one, one class action and one other I can't remember and don't feel like searching for at the moment.
I had to bring this over from the previous thread because it speaks to the sheeple mindset and the comment was right on target.
Astounding ignorance said... 124
RealZiggyFlo @RealZiggyFlo 10h
@XXXXX IMO Kate was fully prepared 2 go forward in her suit against Jon.Jon didn't believe she would. When he realized he caved.
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She does realize it was Kate's lawsuit right? That Jon couldn't drop it or 'cave' ??? Only Kate could 'cave' ???
The ignorance astounds me.
Jon was just gracious enough to let her 'cave' and agree not to counter-sue on this issue now or in the future. How hard is that to figure out?
I think Tuma and Jon must have threatened to sue Kate.
OMG. She looks like a stick figure dancing (walking). And her pitiful 'I just don't understand' comment when Tony quit. There really is only one word that defines her -- B. I. T. C. H.
you know, if she did buy a horse, i guess we can all literally say that she officially IS a dog and pony show...
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Oh snap. And yes, with her na-na-na tweet last night, she has officially opened the Gosselin Grifting Season. My suspicion is that Jon will have the Thanksgiving holiday, so with no friends and family with whom to celebrate, she will either go on twitter silence and/or move straight to farting faux Xmas holiday joy. She makes me so grateful for my mediocre life.
Bring It On, Robert!
I can only stand to watch because my favorite DWTS pro, Saint Tony Dovolani of the Ballroom, is highlighted. Watching this, TFMJG lack of awareness and insight is so clear. The DWTS audience did not like you because YOU WERE MEAN TO TONY AND YOU DID NOT WORK HARD ENOUGH TO LEARN THE STEPS!!!!!!!! Plus notice how the editing juxtaposed her conflicting statements that Tony then verbalized. You can't SAY to make it harder, and then refuse to do the harder steps. And on top of that, she has about a much rhythm as poor Kim Kardashian. when she was on DWTS she just had no rhythm at all.
it is so obvious that it is almost like a huge spotlight shining on the court house, with neon blinking lights: TFMJG signed off on this dismissal and agreed to never sure Jon again because her suit was frivolous and baseless and just a huge intimidation tactic. she got off easy!
dear TFMJG, it is not bullying when people express their negative opinions about you. like you threw away a golden opportunity to rehab your image by NOT working hard like Tony told you. I am amazed that his choreography made you look like a halfway decent dancer.
ANNA LOWE said... 13
you know, if she did buy a horse, i guess we can all literally say that she officially IS a dog and pony show...
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Post of the day!
(I want to chime in with "trotting" out the same song and dance...)
In May, 2010 the younger kids were still in highchairs. I cannot imagine kids that old still being treated like toddlers. I think this went on until they were nearly 7 years old.
I also wonder if she was told what would be in the deposition and that did her in. Do any of the legal folks here know if questions are just sprung on a plaintiff or defendant the day of the deposition or do they see some of them in advance?
The questions are never revealed before the deposition. Her own attorney would prepare her by going over questions he thinks the other side may ask her. Of course, her attorney can't possibly think of every single question that may be asked
I never watched DWTS so the footage on Mr. Hoffman's blog was an eye opener.
About two minutes into the second video when Tony says "I quit", takes off his mic and walks away, Kate starts to tear up and says, "I don't get it."
It's clear she really doesn't get it and that's her biggest issue.
She berated him, blamed him and insulted him. He's a professional dancer who teaches teachers and instead of owning her own ineptitude and lack of effort she says it's his fault for not understanding how she learns.
Really? It just one more example of Kate's sense of entitlement. No appreciation at all for the opportunity, no awareness of how much actual work people put in to hone their crafts and no sense at all about how difficult she was being.
Why on earth would anyone sign up for DWTS if they weren't willing to put in 100% to learn how to dance?
Oh right...the big fat paycheck for doing nothing but be a pain in the ass.
Oh and I loved how she was so confident in the first video about how "Twist of Kate" was coming out that fall.
She stepped on so many people on her way up the "celebrity" ladder, it's no wonder there's so few people around to keep her from sliding right back down.
The only thing keeping me from laughing my ass off is the sadness I feel for those kids. They didn't ask for any of this and they deserve so much better.
And I totally agree that Jon did the right thing allowing this whole mess to be put to rest by agreeing to the terms of the dismissal.
Kate's fans can put any spin on it they want but Kate filed and Kate lost. The end.
getofftwitter said, "This little guessing game that Kate created will last till Christmas"
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I'm not sure that the fans will be that patient.
@msgoody2shoes21: IMO @Kateplusmy8's lawsuit against creeper Robert Hoffman should be lesson for celebs & regular folks to SHRED personal info BEFORE TRASHING
Wait a minute. Is Goody saying that those actually WERE Kate's journals and therefore, those were her words?
I have had one or 2 dreams about kate. barely can remember them. Thank Goodness! But, never had a dream about Jon until last night. I walked up to him, introduced myself, he was really nice. Then I got his black hoodie and was laying in the parking lot with it neatly laid on me and he came and grabbed it and was mad. He went and got in his truck and I got up and was telling him, I'm so sorry, forgive me and he looked at me with dark sunglasses on and he cranked up and left.
Oh, my.
Thank you Layla and Franky for your post about your dogs. They were heartfelt and Kleenex worthy.
Someone posted that Shawn tweeted Victory. Around that same time, I had just seen a video of a young man who was waiting in the CCU waiting room to see his grandmother. He broke out acapella with the Gospel song, Victory in Jesus. I sent that video to Shawn and he loved it and thanked me and sent it on.
Shawn E. Tuma @shawnetuma 18h
Wow, listen to this beautiful song - and don't miss the real message bc of silly shallow stuff! http://youtu.be/ycNfB7FXzEo thx @lukebandit
TxxxTxxx@TxxxTxxx18h
@shawnetuma @lukebandit Thank you..I remember my Grandma singing &
Then he tweeted Amen brother to me and another guy. I told him that I was a sister in Christ and signed my real first name. And he answered,
Shawn E. Tuma @shawnetuma 13h
@lukebandit well now the name does make more sense! LOL You're welcome Teresa!
He is just a gem! He loved that video! The young man's name in the video singing is Bo Steele.
Who says Kate doesn't entertain us with her antics?
Ten minutes to Wapner.
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Do I have time to run over to KMart to grab a few pair of boxers?
ORDERED ADJUDGED and DECREED!! In big bold letters sheep,TWO TIMES, in case you missed it.
Did you see her stir the s%$#t with Tony? Trying to pull that crap on him? HE stands up to her and then cue the tears. Weren't counting on that were you b%$#*? Deja vue with the crap she pulled with Jon.
And the bouncing??!! wth? At least she had some more meat on her bones then, and the elevens were very noticeable. GOD, I forgot what a real B^%$#H she is!
God's speed Robert!!
Remember when Jon and kate bought the big house that part of the stipulation in the agreement to buy the house was that the horses were to STAY there on the property. As soon as the ink was dry on the closing, she got rid of them. If I was that dr. he should of sued her for not honoring her contract. I don't know for how long they were suppose to stay. Then she publically and viciously makes accusations that the house had mice droppings and the refrigerator was never cleaned and filthy.
She is sooo stupid. She could of the last several years got a organic garden growing on that back lot that goes unused. This would of more than paid for the kids on their activities and extras after everything was deducted. She had plenty of money, could of had a vegetable stand and hired someone to take everything there and sell them.
She could of went with the kids ever so often and they would of had a blast. Reminds me of my dad. He and my mother sacrificed for years and saved and bought 40 acres of good land and he would only rent it out for soy beans for 900 dollars a year. I begged him in the beginning to plant Black Walnut trees about 30 years ago. The price of black walnuts are unreal. Even organic baby arugula. There were 2 farmers that were in the paper in an article and they said the going price and this was years ago that OBA was going for 50 dollars a pound. They would take it 65 miles to the big 4 star restaurants and sell it. My dad didn't believe it. They used it for a salad and garnish. He would of been much better off financially for his retirement if he would of done it. Some people won't listen, like someone we all know.
When I read Roberts post Garbage Man, I know this is silly, but I thought about Rose on the Golden Girls when she was trying to get Dorothys boyfriend to admit that he had made a pass at Blanche. Remember when she says, my leg, and he says what is wrong with your leg? And she says, you can fix it, Doctor Man! I thought about Garbage Man like Doctor Man! hahahaha
Hope she has not bought a living creature. This is the LAST THING ON EARTH she needs to dole out her frustration on. Another chore for the boys to do, since they are vet tech interns in her vicious animal care system.
you know, if she did buy a horse, i guess we can all literally say that she officially IS a dog and pony show...
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Post of the day!
(I want to chime in with "trotting" out the same song and dance...)
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Well she's got the horse teeth and hooves...so....
Plus notice how the editing juxtaposed her conflicting statements that Tony then verbalized. You can't SAY to make it harder, and then refuse to do the harder steps
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Exactly Joy! He had her figured out right away. Textbook-contradicts herself in the same sentence pretty much. aaarrghh!! Just watching her again has got me all riled up lol-It's flashbacks of jk8. Her fake persona she tries to get out there on twitter and these talk shows??? THAT WAS THE REAL HER!! All of America saw it! Don't blame the book you fool!
Serendipity, I think you are right! I am very surprised that there is a twit with some good advice from one of the usual twidiots.
Wait a minute. Is Goody saying that those actually WERE Kate's journals and therefore, those were her words?
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Have any of the die hard haters tweeted that on her timeline? (don't use twitter, only see what's posted here)
Wow, those videos that Hoffman posted of TFW's time on DWTS brought back painful memories. She really has absolutely no dance skills whatsoever. Even trying to move gracefully seems beyond her ability! What a clunker.
And I predict TFW will avoid talking about her lawsuit and pretend the whole thing never happened.
I soooo hope Tuma, team Jon and Jon have gone out to celebrate!
Of course you all realize that this lawsuit against Jon, albeit unsuccessful, was just a figment of our imagination. Rest assured in a month she'll be saying Lawsuit? What lawsuit? She'll never say another word about it even if she's allowed to.
Her battle with RH might be a different story.
Maybe ZiggyFlo lives in Bizarro World, where everything is the opposite of reality:
RealZiggyFlo @RealZiggyFlo 10h
@XXXXX IMO Kate was fully prepared 2 go forward in her suit against Jon.Jon didn't believe she would. When he realized he caved.
Or, in the real world, where the rest of us reside:
"Jon was fully prepared to go forward in defending against Kate's suit against Jon, and possibly counter sue. Kate didn't believe he would do either one. When she realized that he would not back down, she caved."
Of course you all realize that this lawsuit against Jon, albeit unsuccessful, was just a figment of our imagination. Rest assured in a month she'll be saying Lawsuit? What lawsuit? She'll never say another word about it even if she's allowed to.
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Oh you got that right Auntie Ann. Narcs rewrite history like it's their job.
If only she could get paid. Oh wait, she DID (read that tfw? DID as in PAST TENSE!)
I can't help but think that somewhere Pam Anderson is laughing and saying CHECK!
Beach shahs . . . Robert, you have a great sense of humor! Those DWTS performances were hilarious. Two observations: the stick is so far up TWFs butt, as evidenced by her stiff like dancing, that it will never see the light of day again; and now I can see why she has no boyfriend. She has no sex appeal at all.
lukebandit said... 33
Remember when Jon and kate bought the big house that part of the stipulation in the agreement to buy the house was that the horses were to STAY there on the property
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I don't recall that. I thought that at some point prior, there were horses on the property.
I can't imagine having the horses remain would be a contingency for buying the house.
A horse owner wouldn't just "hand over the keys" to such an animal.
Maybe I don't recall correctly?
I agree that the mouse droppings and "filthy" refrigerator were egregious, but in the case of the latter, it was all done and said to "organically" make a new built-in refrigerator appear.
She just wanted a new one and moved the old one downstairs.
She got a veritable truckload of new appliances when they moved in.
Well she's got the horse teeth and hooves...so....
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Cloven hooves.
Vanessa: kate is already showing/saying it. She tweeted today, that she did some exciting Xmas shopping and add something or item to the household. This is Kate's way of avoiding the subject. Now she has everyone wondering what she bough or added to the household. GOD! I hope it is not another dog or pet, she does not treat the ones she has, right. That dog she has, spend about 90% outside. My dogs are house dogs, they spend 90% inside. Their job is to protect the home when I'm not there and protect my when I'm there. Outside, does not need protecting. I always knew Kate was ass backwards.
I agree that the mouse droppings and "filthy" refrigerator were egregious, but in the case of the latter, it was all done and said to "organically" make a new built-in refrigerator appear.
She just wanted a new one and moved the old one downstairs.
She got a veritable truckload of new appliances when they moved in.
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It was also to have a storyline. IIRC I read somewhere that they had the whole house professionally cleaned but asked that they leave the fridge and freezer so they could have an episode of her doing her FAVE thing---CLEAN! YAY!
So SHE can lie and deceive?
Cloven hooves.
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Bazinga!
Some news items touch me deeply. A Virginia state senator Creigh Deeds, was stabbed on Tuesday morning by his son. Senator Deeds survived, his son committed suicide by shooting himself. Its traffic because the father had tried to get help for his son the evening before. By all accounts the family had tried to help the son for years. Senator Deeds was released from the hospital today, and sent out a tweet : ” I am alive so I must live. Some wounds won't heal.”
Then I think how TFMJG has never appreciated the miracle of having healthy children, and it just makes me angry. Let alone the abuse and neglect documented in Robert s book.
Its tragic, not traffic! Auto correct aaarrrgggg!
” I am alive so I must live. Some wounds won't heal.”
Joy, how chilling and tragic. I know of a similar situation with my neighbors, son tried to kill the dad and self, both lived, son in mental health facility
That dog she has, spend about 90% outside. My dogs are house dogs, they spend 90% inside. Their job is to protect the home when I'm not there and protect my when I'm there. Outside, does not need protecting. I always knew Kate was ass backwards.
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Absolutely right. A guard dog waaaay out in the back of the property? Chained up? The breeder shouldn't have let her have Shoka back again. She HATES dogs/animals. Think back to the OCC guys episode? Think back to when they were pups? Just like a kid, she was all gaga over the puppies, HAD to be the one to pick them out, pick their names and then she was DONE (as she loves to say) off to the next new shiny thing.
By all accounts the family had tried to help the son for years. Senator Deeds was released from the hospital today, and sent out a tweet : ” I am alive so I must live. Some wounds won't heal.”
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He was initially reported to be in "critical" and "grievous" condition and I thought he might not make it.
When I heard that he was able to walk out of the house and flag down a car that his cousin was driving, I felt a little better.
I'm shocked that he's released so quickly.
The emotional scars will last forever.
So sad.
There were no horses on the property when the house was first revealed on the show. The only living creature in that horse barn was a barn cat which Kate probably allowed to starve to death.
For you TFW "Those who stir the sh%$t pot should have to lick the spoon"
The "filthy" house and the fridge was just a storyline. She probably had the appliances already ordered, in fact, the kitchen renovation was probably already in the works. I didn't blame the doc's wife being furious about Kate wailing about unclean the house was. TLC paid her off but the damage was done to her reputation. I thought the house looked pretty darn good. And, if you live in the country, you are going to have mice unless you have a cat (or a child who can sweep and Kate has 8 of those).
"Oops... Did I say addition"? #hardtokeepitquiet She is such a complete and utter moron. Who gives a shit! Whatever it is.. I already feel sorry for it. Talk about being a BALL BUSTER...
bsolutely right. A guard dog waaaay out in the back of the property? Chained up? The breeder shouldn't have let her have Shoka back again
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I get so angry every time I think about how that breeder gave her Shoka (or a replacement Shoka), after they initially returned the two dogs. That tells me the breeder is not quite reputable, because the most important thing should be the animal's well being, not whether some plastic screeching harpy wants to have a dog or not.
I know a couple who have had several Australian Shepherds over the years. They are absolutely marvelous dogs. Each time they adopt one, they have to jump through hoops with the breeder. The breeder wants to be 100% sure that the dog will go to a good home, with a responsible owner who understands the breed and will take good care of the dog. I'm sorry Kate found a breeder who put money before responsibility.
Vanessa said... 56
For you TFW "Those who stir the sh%$t pot should have to lick the spoon"
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Ha Vanessa! How does one say eww! and lol! at the same time? ewwlol?
I think Kate also needs be told that 'she who thinks only of number one should remember this number is next to nothing'.
I didn't watch DWTS and only watched he first couple of the J&K episodes. I knew something was wrong with her immediately. Most of what I know about the show is from recaps and discussions. So, I decided to take a look at the vids on Robert's site. Wow.Jusf.Wow. Poor Tony. After a couple of videos it led me to this one made by JJ. Perfect!
http://youtu.be/SKa8FPKMrlQ
JoyinVirginia said... 50
Its tragic because the father had tried to get help for his son the evening before. By all accounts the family had tried to help the son for years.
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It is a tragedy. Mental health care is such a double edged sword. I understand the reasons for de-institutionalization in the 1960's but now so many people who need help don't get it. We are protecting civil liberties, yes, but at the expense of health and safety.
I don't know what the right answer would be but I do know something needs to change.
OMG I had never seen the show where she flew up to the camera!! That was surreal.
You know, looking at those clips of her on DWTS, I just have to say I'd really like to see Jon on DWTS because while I don't know if he'd be any good, I'm fairly confident he'd be better than Kate.
In the video on DWTS, kate and Tony are practicing, kate was in front of him and she turned around and slung her arm and bashed him in the face hard? He quickly turned around and walked off. I know it hurt. She had a smile on her face the whole time and acted like it was all in fun. I believe that she did it on purpose. She gets the littlest stress and she has to strike out.
I felt so bad for Tony when he is sitting there with his arms on his knees and swaying back and forth mumbling about the quitting situation. I know the way it was edited, it looked like Tony was gone for a short time. They said it was hours. The producers must of had a hard time convincing him to continue. And you know it was not for more money. He couldn't take her insanity. I hope they generously compensated him for the horrendous behavior of twisted kate.
She looked fat in those dance videos 3 years ago compared to today. She has lost a tremendous amount of weight. You can tell it in the H & F picture with Mark and Christina.
I am going to try to go back and watch the segments again and really pay attention to the responses of the hosts. I remember that Christina said about fighting and kate ignored her and kept talking.
After a couple of videos it led me to this one made by JJ. Perfect!
http://youtu.be/SKa8FPKMrlQ
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It used to bug the sh*t out of me, how Kate complained about the cost of milk. Unlimited Juicy Juice? Sure! It's FREE!
But nourishing milk? Sorry kids, I have to ration you like Oliver Twist.
MORE? YOU WANT MORE?
Ugh.
I LOVED milk as a kid and grew up on 4% whole milk. I used to get a glass with my meals and would quaff it down so fast sometimes that I'd fill myself up and could barely eat dinner.
Did my mom, my MEDIOCRE mom every complain and how much milk was costing her? Never.
And this was a woman who clicked every dollar, nickel and penny of every item she put in her shopping basket to stay on budget.
Does anyone else remember those little clickey money counters?!
Maybe ZiggyFlo lives in Bizarro World, where everything is the opposite of reality:
RealZiggyFlo @RealZiggyFlo 10h
@XXXXX IMO Kate was fully prepared 2 go forward in her suit against Jon.Jon didn't believe she would. When he realized he caved.
She's not really serious, is she? I mean if you are this darn stupid, you don't tweet something like this and show your ignorance. Sure, Jon caved. He caved so much that he dismissed the lawsuit that was filed against him. He had the legal right to do this, don't you know?
Any defendant in a lawsuit just says, "Hey, I don't like this suit, so I'm just dismissing it. See ya later."
Good gawd.
lukebandit said... 65
In the video on DWTS, kate and Tony are practicing, kate was in front of him and she turned around and slung her arm and bashed him in the face hard? He quickly turned around and walked off. I know it hurt. She had a smile on her face the whole time and acted like it was all in fun.
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Wow, I hadn't noticed that before but I agree that Kate whacked him on purpose.
If you strike someone, especially in the face, you stop, gasp and say "OMG, are you ok? I'm so sorry" and then hope the other person is ok and in a forgiving mood.
What Kate did was what a silly teen would do. She laughed hysterically as soon as she struck his face, and that's not a normal reaction to hitting someone by accident.
Listening to poor, poor Kate, decrying that no matter what she did, her performance would get picked apart, even if she danced like a Pussycat Doll.
How delusional.
Look at Bill Engval. That man is not a stellar dancer, although he's improved, yet he's in the finals!
Could it be he's obviously working really hard and having a good time? Could it be that he's relating to the audience and has a wonderful fan base? Could it be that his phenomenal success has come as a result of his own hard work, and his alone, with no children involved? Could it be that he doesn't act entitled?
Could be, Kate, could be.
But, nah, let's just all feel sorry for you and while we're at it, Katie, dear, why don't you just throw in the towel because no one will praise your shitty clomping anyways.
Check.
She does realize it was Kate's lawsuit right? That Jon couldn't drop it or 'cave' ??? Only Kate could 'cave' ???
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Nope. She doesn't understand that. Zig is the one who said that Jon released Kate with prejudice. What's hysterical is that her sheeple buddy (the one who gives the hugs) said:
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#Kateplusmy8 ALL you bullies could combine ALL your brains together and you still wouldn't be half as smart,with common sense as Ziggy:)
Speaks volumes, doesn't it?
Inspired by the legal documents we've gotten to see (a/k/a "Sometimes No Really Means No"), I feel compelled for accuracy's sake to point out that TFW's age has been incorrectly stated here a few times as 37, and even 36. But let the record show (thank you, Clair Huxtable!) that she was born in March of 1975, which makes her 38 2/3. So attention gift card shoppers: she's only 16 months away from her 40th birthday. You're welcome, TFW!
The funny thing to me about that DWTS clip is that she probably hasn't been touched by a man since that time. The only men who touch her are paid. Any other male would have to use a 10 foot pole in one hand while protecting his family jewels with the other.
FRP
Tucker's Mom
I remember the little clickers! I also remember S&H Greenstamps. My Mom had little books of them.
I had a very hard time listening to TFW's voice in those clips and her looks, hoo boy, so nasty. You can really see how everyone else is carrying her through the conversations and well, Tony, literally carrying her through the dance. The part where one of the judges said she just "walked" not danced. It was so true. Ha! I had to laugh when she went up on the lift and one of the hosts said something about"...sing Don't Cry For Me Argentina - not that she'd know the reference. What a hot mess.
BWAHAHAHA FRP 67
franky
Layla said... 14
It just occorred to me that she must have been very worried that Jon might sue her for filing false claims against him. Otherwise, why would she have even thought to have him give up the right to sue her for it?
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I just posted a great response ... but got a frowny face when I hit the post button! ... so if this is a double response, I'll just hit my high points :-)
Kate didn't think of that ... her lawyers did. She's not smart enough to realize they could all be counter-sued for such an outlandish claim with absolutely no proof.
If I can't have Katie deposed ... I at least want her and her 'lawyers' called to the carpet by this judge! I can only hope he's waiting for them to ask that the suit against Robert Hoffman be dismissed before he calls them all out ...
This whole dropping the suit against Jon debacle has made me realize just how invested Kate's sheep are in her ... whatever ... life/stardom/existence??? I can still see some comedy in it, but I now mostly just feel sad for people like that.
I hope Shawn Tuma has passed Jon's name along to some really good family lawyers. I'm sure he's seen enough to realize that Kate isn't well and those kids need a new environment until she is ...
Lukebandit, I thought the same thing about Kate's weight in the DWTS clips. She was quite bottom heavy. It would seem to me that she probably thought the same thing after watching it and made a decision to get skinny. But now she has taken it way too far.
JoyinVirginia said... 50
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I saw that too JoyinVa. Very touching and such a sad event. I wish both sides would quit using his grief and pain for their own political agendas, but I guess that was yesteryear ....
Tucker's Mom, I loved those little clickers! And I remember doing the greenstamps books with my Grandmother. I loved going through the book and looking at all the prizes.
silimom said... 63
OMG I had never seen the show where she flew up to the camera!! That was surreal.
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That's when everyone was comparing her to the donkey on Shrek.
Loved watching the DWTS videos, I had forgotten how bad she was! TFW does not have a feminine or graceful bone in her body. Len tells her not to go down like a WIMP, but that is exactly how she went down this week, down from her lawsuit exactly like a WHIMP!!
Tess 68
At one point Bruno compared her to a shopping cart.
I stopped watching DWTS after I saw the practice footage. Just watched her grand finale.
I'm speechless.
Milo's still off pouting somewhere? That must be some kind of a record!
I think that out of all the strange people on Kate's TL, this one, with his/her fixation on Alexis, is the creepiest:
CHINA EL ZODIVULKAN @Vector64China
@Kateplusmy8 Alexis oh Alexis, I got my onion for the frost: I'm going to put my onion to the car windows like it's compared to something.
CHINA EL ZODIVULKAN @Vector64China
@Kateplusmy8 Alexis baby, Moonglow and prayers to follow:
The look on Tony's face when they were being judged after the jive was one of anguish, helplessness, hopelessness and embarrassment. Poor guy.
prairiemary said... 79
Loved watching the DWTS videos, I had forgotten how bad she was!
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You and me, both! Think of all the other contestants who don't dance--at least they always improve somewhat, but not Kate!! Absolutely horrible. And with all her mini-tantrums and attitude, she just never came across as likeable at all.
Looking at the blowup between Tony and Kate, she continually wipes away non tears from her face. As soon as she gets upset, she feigns crying and her hands to right to her face to wipe away tears from her dry face.
On twitter, Kate is still teasing and losing her mind:
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8
There's a chore completion discrepancy & I just heard myself say 'Do not scream at Inspector Gadget!' #thingsmomssay #thenlaughatthemselves
you have got to be kidding me? WoS tweeting that there was a chore discrepancy OMG it is Friday night and she is bitching on twitter that her kids are not doing chores right? She has been home all week doing nothing but sitting on her ugly ass and she is bitching some kid didn't do something right? GOD I hate her
Pam
I am alone tonight, just me and the dogs hanging out on my bed(inside, TFW)and am having a blast watching the judges after each dance, I LOVE watching kate when she gives them her big stink eye, at least she does that well! I just can't stop laughing, must be over-tired or something!
The chore chart tweet is just another deflection. She knows that will get everyone stirred up and talking about it instead of the lawsuit and DWTS.
How many gallons of milk could this bitch buy with the money she's spent on her hair and lipo alone? Ugh she's a troll
...or she's drunk.
Sitting around on a Friday night eating m&ms and candycorn and reading all the cards from thoughtful fans--AND playing with gifts!
Those poor kids.
Deflect, deflect deflect...I'm so loved people send me cards and gifts...what lawsuit?
TFW is binge tweeting tonight. #nothingwrongherei'mtweetingmyusualnonsense
@Kateplusmy8: Eating m&ms &candycorn, reading cards filled w love &a tablet full of silly rhymes,playing w thoughtful gifts.
#thanks2dearthoughtfulfriends
Sounds More like she's drinking glass after glass of wine...
'Do not scream at Inspector Gadget!
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In this is exactly what we were saying. This dysfunctional parenting technique is creating tension and discord among the siblings. They're screaming at each other. How awful that their relationships are being sabotaged by this witch. Chores should be collaborative, not something where you're constantly competing against each other and getting all worked up and stressed out.
Oh and by the way, if the children are stuck choring on a Friday night after a long week of school, then Kate needs to chore too. It's unfair for her to get to do all the fun stuff, Christmas shopping and eating candy and reading accolades, while the kids slave away.
A final point, true friends would not be building her up right now. True friends would say honey we need to talk, and be having a heart to heart with her over lunch or longer over what exactly she's doing with herself.
Sounds More like she's drinking glass after glass of wine...
I agree....she's smashed.
It's been said before over and over but needs to be said again... This woman is insane and needs professional help!!!
playing with thoughtful gifts...thanks2dearthoughtfulfriends
Sheeple! This is your call to action! Time to break out those credit cards and spend on the Gs! Kate has declared Gosselin Christmas gift-getting season open, and you are expected to shower her and the kids with presents. She isn't about to spend her own money on the kids (she needs that for her lawyer. And botox), so she's giving you an early warning so you can get started. Cash and gift cards only, please! In fact, don't even include a Christmas card. She doesn't want to have to go to the trouble of throwing them in the trash. Just put the loot in an envelope and get it in the mail, pronto! Do not put your return address on the envelope. She doesn't care who you are, and she's not going to send you anything. And don't expect any acknowledgement, either. She will send out one thank-you tweet, and that's going to have to suffice for all of you. Remember, you get what you get and you don't get upset. Now, shut up and spend.
Feeling a little defeated tonight, Kate?
https://twitter.com/Quotelmages/status/404070600400179202/photo/1
#thingsmomssay #thenlaughatthemselves
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Thing YOU say you idiot. Don't include real moms in your insane alternate universe.
Ziggy thinks that Jon "caved" and agreed to give up the goods on Robert in exchange for TFW dropping the charges against him. Ziggy is either really, really dumb or just delusional. She comes up with these wild stories, insults anyone who doesn't follow her moronic ramblings, and then drops it all and pretends it's all the work of haters when her speculations don't come true.
Rest assured, Ziggy, Jon will not be testifying against Robert. You heard it from me, and I promise that if it does happen, I will lick the soles of my shoes. Which is disgusting, but I'm that sure that Jon will not testify. Never in a million years. TFW is on her own, and she won't have any say in what questions she has to answer on the witness stand. I definitely think Robert's lawyer will go point-by-point through every page of the book, make her admit to everything (or come up with actual proof that it's not true), and every admission will be all over the news. Once she's in the witness stand, she is not the one in control.
"Feeling a little defeated tonight, Kate?
https://twitter.com/Quotelmages/status/404070600400179202/photo/1"
This should send the sheeple in a frenzy. What is wrong with her? Drunk, deflecting, or nervous breakdown?
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 2h
There's a chore completion discrepancy & I just heard myself say 'Do not scream at Inspector Gadget!' #thingsmomssay #thenlaughatthemselves
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Hey, Kate:
Most well-mannered kids don't scream after about age 4, tops.
Why are your kids so tense on a Friday evening that they're screaming at each other?
Why are they working so hard?
Why aren't YOU doing the essential chores and letting the kids watch a fun kids' movie with popcorn (and sprawled all over the family room and not sitting on a line?)
What the heck are you doing while they do all this work? Tweeting? Drinking the box o' wine?
#thingsmomssaytoKate
#poorkids
#onprisonworkdetail
#canibakeyouacake #withafileinit?
Ziggy is either really, really dumb or just delusional.
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Is it possible that she's both?
You something, my husband (who thinks I devote too much time to all things Gosselin) I can't help it I love this blog! Opps I mean !!!!!!!!!!!!! Occasionally asks me to play the original DWTS paparazzi video on our smart TV (not 3D) While sitting on our bonded leather couch.It cracks him up!
Why are your kids so tense on a Friday evening that they're screaming at each other?
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I don't know about anyone else but Friday nights, tonight, is usually one of the best times of the week. Everyone is in a good mood looking forward to the weekend fun. You feel good after another long week. It's fun to just let out your breath from the week and look forward to two days of rest/fun/no work/church/catching up/ things other than work and school.
I just feel so bad for them that even a nice Friday night is so TENSE. How awful. You know what, they have a right to a Friday night free of such tension and stress. A right. Kate finds their screaming funny and cute. I find it tragic.
When we were kids we had chores that rotated weekly . We negotiate. Week off so every 5 weeks each had a week with no chore. Everyone needs some time off especially kiss
Tucker's Mom said... 85
Looking at the blowup between Tony and Kate, she continually wipes away non tears from her face. As soon as she gets upset, she feigns crying and her hands to right to her face to wipe away tears from her dry face.
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Hey! Just like Casey Anthony!
There is something very wrong with her retweets tonight.
Kate, get help. Now.
Like some others, I'd forgotten what a b&tch she is.
And graceful she is not. No sense of body movement, sensuality.
The bazoombas were not overflowing the tops of her outfits yet. Must have been before the 2nd or 3rd good bra.
Kinda funny about the make up and costumes. Not enough weird that she could gripe about them, but they surely did her no favors.
AuntieAnn said... 101
#thingsmomssay #thenlaughatthemselves
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Thing YOU say you idiot. Don't include real moms in your insane alternate universe.
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I don't know why, but the idea of Kate living in her own alternate universe has me giggling. It reminds me of a magnet I have on my fridge--a dog wearing virtual reality goggles with the caption, "I know I'm in my own world - it's okay. They know me here."
There is something very wrong with her retweets tonight.
She's one tweet short of a nervous breakdown. I hope she gets professional help soon.
Mel, that was my thought during the season TFMJG was on DWTS. My speculation was that she wad ride to the hair, make up, and costuming folks so they did an ok job, but not great. Another speculation from another poster was that TFMJG was just not available in a timely manner for fittings or to discuss her look with hair and make up folks. Another thought is that rat claws was acting as personal style consultant. That would explain a lot. Anyway, every single outfit she had was... Ok...but something just wasn't put together as well as it could have been.
I remember seeing some tabloid report, maybe TMZ? That after the live show most of the cast would go out to dinner together. It was noted that TFMJG did not participate in that ritual, and also that she did not speak directly to the backstage folks, they had to talk to the booby guard to communicate with her. Like I said, tabloid reporting. But knowing what we do from reports on set, her behavior on her show, I can definitely see her doing this.
The vast majority of celebs who dance ALWAYS thank the crew, the band, the singers, the backstage folks at some point. Leah Remini, when she got voted off last week, gave a special thank you to the crew. Many of the celebs say it is the BEST crew they have ever worked with.
It would be just like TFMJG to completely disrespect and ignore three highly trained and experienced professionals who work behind the scenes. Who do you think gave her such awful lighting and camera angles on that finale dance? And Tom and Tony were probably not in on the joke, I will bet it was a surprise to them, they were laughing so hard.
(Leslie)
Remember how Kate had to bash Jon for saying the things about the kids on OWN recently.
Well, Kate said on tape the following: "Mady is very controlling, manipulative, has trouble telling the truth, bossy, and trouble minding authority. Mady has gotten away with a lot of serious offenses and called it an accident. And after an interview with Mady, Jon said "I was pretty sure they were going to tell me that Mady needed some major intervention."
And she has the gall to write a blog coming against Jon for saying the things he said about the kids. Appalling that a mother could talk about her own child like that on national TV.
I went to youtube to watch Kate on DWTS and saw this clip.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ik8pVv4CuTo
(Leslie)
Oh one more gem, "Mady has jealously urges and can't seem to control them." What more ugly things could a person possibly say about any child. Kate seems to have cover all of the. And thank God, Mady has done a complete turn around.
(Leslie)
Jon said "I was pretty sure they were going to tell me that Mady needed some major intervention."
That should have read Kate said not Jon.
And thank God, Mady has done a complete turn around.
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I'm not sure that she has turned around.
Bossy behavior works for her because TFW isn't the mom in that house, Mady is. TFW is too busy tweeting or not there at all. Somebody has to be the leader.
Somebody has to parent TFW; Steve when he's there or else Mady.
I don't really want to discuss the kids too specifically, but in a lot of ways I feel for Mady the most. She's totally had her childhood stolen from her. Partly due to her personality, partly due to her having to fill the leadership void.
(Leslie)
I also found an Inside Edition clip from May 2012, where the interviewer asks her, "But he is paying child support?" Kate answers, " Everything has been worked out behind the scenes. So I think it is a good change. It is a good move and it is good." Does this sound like Kate is in the least upset about Jon not paying child support. Of course not. She sounds very please indeed.
Also she was on the Today show that morning (along with other interviews) and Ann said that there has been a new development where there is now peace with Jon. And in this interview Kate stated within seconds of the interview starting how the kids want to film again and really stressed the point.
I think Kate made the rounds that May 2012, because she probably heard (or maybe she felt) from some producers that perhaps Jon would be against filming again. And perhaps that was one of the reasons a producer would not take her and the 8 on. Kate purposely said in all her interviews that day that she and Jon were now at peace, the kids were doing great in school, and all the kids were very eager to film again. Too bad Kate, that no producer took you on.
I know legally they cannot do a trade off but I think it was an agreement between them that she would stop the child support if he didn't stop the filming of the kids if the chance arose.
In May 2012, she was at peace with Jon and then she filed a lawsuit not to long after that. Wow, what a bitch.
She was insanely tweeting last night because she has no real friends or family to talk to on a Friday night. Steve was probably out with his wife. She needs help. She has an is due with connecting with people and having normal relationships. I really think that when she says "my kids really miss the crew" that she is really talking about herself. They were like her friends and family, but obviously the feeling was not mutual because they didn't stay in touch after the show. This is also why after she meets a new celebrity on a talk show that she immediately becomes their BFF on Twitter. I really think she struggles with this.
lukebandit said... 33
Remember when Jon and kate bought the big house that part of the stipulation in the agreement to buy the house was that the horses were to STAY there on the property. As soon as the ink was dry on the closing, she got rid of them. If I was that dr. he should of sued her for not honoring her contract. I don't know for how long they were suppose to stay. Then she publically and viciously makes accusations that the house had mice droppings and the refrigerator was never cleaned and filthy.
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In this economy -- especially if it is a foreclosure or short sale -- it is not unusual for people who are selling their horse property to request (desperately HOPE) that the new buyers will allow the sellers to leave their livestock (especially if it is older livestock). This is because the sellers can't afford to keep them anymore and/or can't find a them a new home, and the thought to just sell them at auction where they might wind up as dog food just breaks their heart.
Now in the Gosselin case, I can't imagine that the doctor did not have the funds to board out these horses if Jon & Kate did not want them after escrow. Also, I don't think the doctor would have left horses that were high strung and/or not safe to be around small children.
What I have always wondered after hearing that horses were left behind by the sellers -- did Jon and Kate just sell them at an auction and pocket the money with no thought or guilt as to where the horses might end up?
I know legally they cannot do a trade off but I think it was an agreement between them that she would stop the child support if he didn't stop the filming of the kids if the chance arose.
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I've said this as well. I think that is what happened. They can go to a modification conference and agree on any amount down to zero. However, unlike what her attorney said, it's not "forever". She could take him back at any time and force a child support amount.
Marie said... 121
I really think that when she says "my kids really miss the crew" that she is really talking about herself.
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When said this you got me thinking Marie.
We never ever hear or rarely hear Kate say that "She misses the crew" it's all ways the kids missing the crew.
You maybe on to something also Kate said people all ways end up leaving in the end her during the RV trip. Kate does seem to have issues in making lasting connects with real people.
And you want to feel sorry for her on one hand but one the other who's going to stick around and be bullied and used by her?
OK, I have new respect for Rushdie:
Sare @Sarelya23 13h
The hags are pissed that we tweet to @JRushie . Hey, he's just as much a victim of Kate as anyone. Poor guy.
Jordan Rushie @JRushie 2h
@Sarelya23 I don't mind you guys Tweeting me. I'm on Twitter. You're entitled to your opinions, and I respect that.
@msgoody2shoes21: @nancivs @Kateplusmy8 Don't be confused. I don't think RH "found" Kate's stuff. And every1 should shred personal information before trashing
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@Chablis4u: @msgoody2shoes21 @nancivs @Kateplusmy8 What matters is IF the info is true. Doesn't matter how it came into his hands.
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@msgoody2shoes21: @Chablis4u @nancivs @Kateplusmy8 Don't care if true or not true. If true, it was 7.5 years ago. If not true, RH is creepy maniacal stalker.
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And here you have the sheeple mindset. If TFW did physically abuse her kids it was "7.5" years ago so who cares! Who cares if any of it is true! Let's get Robert and Jon is a deadbeat dad. That is their mantra.
The result of TFW's lawsuit against Jon is a given for Jon. That doesn't mean she is anymore on line with co parenting with him at this time. My guess is after the lawsuit, this is probably worse. That's life and what Jon has to deal with for many years to come. As the years go on, TFW will continue to remind the kids about how their father destroyed their career reality tv and how she could have put their father in jail but how she didn't want that for him because he is their father. Pass the puke bucket. Those poor kids will have to endure hearing her versions of the divorce and her hatred of Jon for years to come. It is so sad for these children.
Hmmmm
http://gosselinbook.blogspot.com/2013/11/a-question-that-several-media-outlets.html
@nicolergould: @Kateplusmy8 hi Kate! Have you been able to start reading? :) when u do could I pls get a testimonial? :) can't wait 4 u to read my book! :)
Nicole, it's time to face facts. Kate isn't going to read your book. Kate isn't going to give you a testimonial. Kate told you that you book was on her nightstand in line to be read when in reality your book was dumped before she left Canada and is now residing in a landfill. Kate's eyes glaze over every time you tweet and she doesn't even read your tweets any more. Get on with your life and find another "celebrity" to give you a testimonial on your book.
Am I making a correct guess here that "Inspector Gadget" is most likely Mady?
I did realize the horses were left. I am sure they were sold and Jon and Kate pocketed the money. The doc should have sold them when he put the house on the market. I've known people just to have horses as show pets, in other words, it looks cool to have horses grazing on your property. I had a neighbor who did this. They never rode their two horses but had a nice barn.
Wow, a new post this morning at http://gosselinbook.blogspot.com/
Robert means business.
A few excerpts.:
"A question that several media outlets have asked us recently:
Is the journal Kate Gosselin’s or not?
This seems to be the only thing about the book that news people are interested in"
"Regarding the violent acts against toddlers in diapers found in ‘The’ journal. We don’t believe that this is the worst thing that Kate Gosselin has ever done to her children as some might speculate".
When the book first came out Goody said if it were true she was done with Kate in those words. I guess she was counting on it not being true and she now knows it is
Wow, a new post at Gosselin book blog. I can't imagine there being worse stuff in that journal. Those poor children.............
Jordan Rushie @JRushie 2h
@Sarelya23 I don't mind you guys Tweeting me. I'm on Twitter. You're entitled to your opinions, and I respect that.
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Yet on the same side is an anti-bully group who DOESN'T seem to respect that.
Holy buckets. Sounds like Gosselinbook ain't gonna be settling any time soon. He *wants* discovery to happen.
If, if...if those things she wrote are true (I'm going with the idea that they are her journals), I would be shakin' in my boots 'bout now.
I still can't get past the idea of doing hideous things to my children, and then writing it all down. #doublehideous
And if you didn't do those things, and this was an exaggeration or figment, why, why why? #equallyhideous
Kate's eyes glaze over every time you tweet and she doesn't even read your tweets any more. Get on with your life and find another "celebrity" to give you a testimonial on your book.
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Nobody will tell her that, and she keeps plugging away. She has another girl crush -- on Sarah Mclachlan. Time to change her profile picture.
I wouldn't blame Kate if she didn't respond to her. Obnoxious, pestering tweets don't get you anywhere.
It doesn't look like Robert is going to back down any time soon. Looks like TFW is going to be in for a bumpy ride. After Robert's newest post I'm guessing that she's going to be in a twitter frenzy again. Deflect, deflect, deflect. TFW brought this on herself so let the chips fall where they may.
TLC stinks said... 130
Am I making a correct guess here that "Inspector Gadget" is most likely Mady?
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When Kate was on Hallmark she explained that each child had a turn to be Inspector Gadget. I'm assuming it's a different IG every day or maybe they change once a week? I don't remember her saying how often they changed.
But it doesn't sound like it's creating any harmony in the household if Kate feels the need to scream when there's a "chore completion descrepancy."
I can't imagine there being worse stuff in that journal. Those poor children.............
I know we've talked about this before, but on some levels I still feel that even though it's probably healthy validation for the kids to see (perhaps later) that others thought it was terrible what they had to go through, and that some people *did* try to help them, that yet...on some levels it's an invasion of their privacy.
Some of the kids might feel validated, others might be beyond humiliated. Especially as the kids that they are right now. Later they might see it as validation, but for now....
What else is weird about this is that the twins are old enough to remember that stuff. But the sextuplets aren't. Why bring it to the forefront for them? Rub their noses in it, so to speak.
On the other hand, I don't think the behavior has gone away, it's just evolved to not as physical. But meaner. And not mean across the board, either. Which makes it even worse.
I really struggle with what is the right approach. Robert knows the family, and has probably struggled a lot with what to do, as any *normal* human being would. Guess we'll have to trust his judgment on this one.
Those poor kids....that's what this blog is all about. Those poor kids.
chore completion discrepancy
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Good God, TFW! It's just the floor that didn't get swept to your standards.
They didn't murder somebody.
Judging from the manic tweeting last night, I would hazard a guess that Mommy Dearest may well have been home alone in her house. Could be a long, cold weekend ahead for her. I would also hazard a guess that there is a big fat zero on her 'media schedule' for the rest of the year. Into the abyss once again. Nothing to promote, no interviewers knocking on her door. Once again, reality looms large.
http://gosselinbook.blogspot.com/2013/11/a-question-that-several-media-outlets.html
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Oh gosh, for sure FOR SURE there is worse!
He's right, if she felt that what she wrote down was ok? That it demonstrated "good mothering"? I'll only say this, those of us who have been raised by a true abuser, will not be shocked.
Question for Admin:
During court cases can one side make the kind of public commentary against the other party such as Robert is doing with his recent blog entries? Don't get me wrong--I'm fully a Robert supporter, but I'm becoming concerned that this isn't proper on his part and I would hate to see this do any damage to his defense.
Your expert opinion, please?
Who inspects inspector gadget? Maybe they will let things slide (not be perfectly perfect) so as not to be screamed at by a sibling. Will they get screamed at by TFW ? Remember when she inspected the work of the first (free) housekeeper and fired her after one da?
TLC stinks said... 131
I did realize the horses were left. I am sure they were sold and Jon and Kate pocketed the money. The doc should have sold them when he put the house on the market. I've known people just to have horses as show pets, in other words, it looks cool to have horses grazing on your property. I had a neighbor who did this. They never rode their two horses but had a nice barn.
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I don't remember horses being part of the sale. Just in general though, the Lancaster, PA area is notorius for it's horse auctions where most of the horses are sold for slaughter. There was a case last year of a young PA woman buying horses from people who could no longer keep them and promising they were going to be pets or therapy animals. She was actually taking them to the horse auction.
Please read this heartwarming story from last Christmas which tells about one of these beautiful creatures getting a second chance at life, totally by odds breaking circumstances. Get yer tissues ready!
http://www.ydr.com/local/ci_22409615/scribbles-horse-bound-slaughter-gets-second-chance-and
"Chore completion descrepancy" ... now, if I just had a nickel for every time I said that while raising my son.
Not trying to be rude at all, but I'm wondering how many times Admin has to say Kate cannot relieve Jon's CS. Only a judge can do that. Not one or either parent. It just doesn't work that way.
Mel said... 141
chore completion discrepancy
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Good God, TFW! It's just the floor that didn't get swept to your standards.
They didn't murder somebody.
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I know, can you believe she'd say that? Talk about a freaking drill sergeant or worse.
Vanessa.....143
NO I am not shocked.
The pain of the beatings goes away but there is much more that will stay with you forever.
My heart breaks for those kids.
Oh, my, Goody actually admitted what we have thought for a very long time--she does not care whether the kids were abused. We have suspected all along that the sheeple really don't care about the well-being of the kids. The kids are just an extension of TFW to the sheeple, the kids are nothing more than TFW's property, and her fans are okay with whatever TFW does to them. If TFW wants to beat them, it's okay with them. If TFW wants to verbally and mentally abuse them, it's okay. All that matters is TFW. It's just shocking to actually see one of them put it into words--"I don't care". TFW's fans are vicious, spiteful people who condone anything that makes TFW happy. Including the beating of small children. That is just tragic.
I think that the physical abuse has evolved to more emotional. We've seen it. In NY she to,d one of them that she'd leave her with strangers. In Alaska she told them if they chose to stay they wouldn't be Gosselins any more. I'm sure that they also hear "Go live with your dad if you want to but don't expect to come crawling back to me when your brothers and sisters have nice things and you don't". That is the way she works. I'm sure she's already working her magic with the twins because at that age girls (and boys) can be very materialistic. They want what their friends have. TFW can give it to them and Jon can't. She's raised those kids to feel very entitled because for her it's all about having it bigger and better than everyone else. The thing that is really killing her is the fact that she's not a media darling any more. She craves the fame but fame is fleeting. The kids aren't cute toddlers any more and no one wants to watch kids heir age screaming and hitting each other. A least I don't.
NJGal51 said... 138
It doesn't look like Robert is going to back down any time soon. Looks like TFW is going to be in for a bumpy ride. After Robert's newest post I'm guessing that she's going to be in a twitter frenzy again. Deflect, deflect, deflect. TFW brought this on herself so let the chips fall where they may.
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It appears that Kate is planning to go full speed ahead with her suit against Robert, and he is trying to give her very fair warning about what will be coming out through discovery. He has the goods and they are legit, we know this. He says he has much, much worse on her and I fully believe that, too.
IMO, what he is trying to say to her is ok, let's get it on but I will not hold back and I will be leaking to ROL, just like they are in the Tom Cruise case. Kate has met her match. She could drop this suit and still stagger on in her limited z- list status. Instead, she's choosing to gamble everything for the sake of getting revenge on Robert. These are not the actions of a mother who puts her kids first. A mother who puts her kids first will actually put them first. Not make her own deluded, narcissistic, stubborn pride and thirst for revenge paramount.
To correct my previous post, I was unaware the doc left his horses as part of the sale.
I did not watch her Hallmark interview, so it's news to me about her Inspector Gadget tattle tale idea. Nothing like stirring up fights, eh Kate?
I bet there she wrote about those babies made to stay in their cribs for hours with dirty diapers. Pretty obvious that was going on since Jon left for work very early and she slept late. Then the babies were forced to take long afternoon naps.
"Chore completion discrepancy"
Seriously, who talks like that, to kids or adults? Her very odd use of the English language never fails to bemuse me. And of course this whole Inspector Gadget thing only serves to illustrate how she fixates on the wrong parts of raising children. Nothing about nurturing, only about organizing the work. For a woman who stays home alone for a full week of work hours, and has help, those kids sure have a lot of chores.
Robert included some TFW fans' tweets in the book, and I hope that when it is re-released, he includes the new one from Ms Goody. There it is, in black and white, from one of TFW's most rabid supporters--"I DON"T CARE if it's true" the kids were abused. If anyone wonders what the fan/non-fan wars are about, if anyone doesn't understand where the sheeple are coming from, there is now a direct admission. The sheeple do not care if the kids were abused.
Kylie said... 147
Not trying to be rude at all, but I'm wondering how many times Admin has to say Kate cannot relieve Jon's CS. Only a judge can do that. Not one or either parent. It just doesn't work that way.
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It is a greyish area. Kate kept spouting that she relieved Jon of child support. You are right, in PA she can't just arbitrarily do this.
What it *appears* to have happened is that Kate agreed to formally and legally allow Jon to have more custody time. Before that... it looks like while Jon's custody time on paper was every other weekend- and he paid child support to reflect this- he was having the kids more than that. Like when Kate traveled. It was enough custody time to cause problems with him keeping a 9-5 job.
Speculating here... it looks like Kate and Jon or Kate and Jon's lawyers worked out a deal to legally adjust Jon's custody time to the amount of time he was actually having them anyway, thus making it unecessary for him to pay monthly support. In exchange for this, some think Jon may have then agreed to some limiting filming of the kids i.e. CWS. This was possibly the behind the scenes deal. The only part the judge needed to know to follow the law, was to see that both parties agreed to an increased custody time adjustment for Jon, and that Jon's new percentage of time now relived him of a monthly support obligation. Again, just specualtion.
I think the custody time and child support change is debated as much as the misunderstanding about the TAP funds the Lt. Gov opened for the kids back in 2005! (The funds were just opened- not funded!)
Kylie said... 147
Not trying to be rude at all, but I'm wondering how many times Admin has to say Kate cannot relieve Jon's CS. Only a judge can do that. Not one or either parent. It just doesn't work that way.
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How many times do I have to say that I have child support in PA and I have been through the system for 15 years? Yes, a judge orders child support. It can then be modified as situations change, from a new job, more children, less daycare, etc. You submit a petition for modification and it goes to a conference. The officer plugs in the numbers and out comes the amount to be paid. HOWEVER as our officer told us when my ex was unemployed, we can agree to any amount we wanted as long as we both agreed, down to ZERO. I agreed to less than the number indicated. If we don't agree, and one time we didn't, the number stands but the grieved party can appeal (mine did). It then goes to a hearing and a Master decides. (I won). I know what I am talking about.
TFW could very well have said if you agree to let them film, I will agree at a conference to zero child support or very little.
And really, Jon paying when he has the kids is not equal. Even if you take away the luxuries TFW pays for. I get child support but it doesn't begin to cover the soccer fees, swim lessons, school supplies, field trips, birthday presents for friends, etc etc I have paid over the years. Some ex's will willingly split those costs. Mine said "that's what I pay you child support for."
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I also found an Inside Edition clip from May 2012, where the interviewer asks her, "But he is paying child support?" Kate answers, " Everything has been worked out behind the scenes. So I think it is a good change. It is a good move and it is good."
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How can the sheeple call Jon a deadbeat Dad when Kate said the above. It doesn't sound like she thinks he is a deadbeat Dad. Kate said three times that what they worked out behind the scenes was "good". Kate seemed very pleased with it all. And don't forget that part of Jon's divorce settlement was put aside to where he did not have access to it so he could pay $22,000 a month. I wonder in total how many of those payments of $22,000 did Jon make. That is probably one of the reasons he is broke today. The other reasons are he stupidly spent his money on an expensive New York apt. and fancy cars.
Dmasy said... 146
"Chore completion descrepancy" ... now, if I just had a nickel for every time I said that while raising my son
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Or every time we've said "don't scream at inspector gadget" (She said #thingsmomssay...what other mom ever said that?)
Could someone please explain to me TFMJG's retweet of the weird manx and the creepy quote, "We are all going to die...etc." I do not understand it. TFMJG is so whacked in the head, it is not funny.
Could someone please explain to me TFMJG's retweet of the weird manx and the creepy quote, "We are all going to die...etc." I do not understand it. TFMJG is so whacked in the head, it is not funny.
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In some states that is more than enough to have her kids pulled from her asap by DEFACS, if she tweeted that.
Worried
I remember one episode when Jon and the kids explored the new property, he said the horse barn, one of the 'out buildings' had no horses, to the disappointment of a couple of the children. I'm sure they were sold - lucky for them. Kate did say she would like an
'addition' to the laundry room, though lol.
I agree Inspector Gadget is one of the twins.Or a girl, at any rate.
TFW's fans are vicious, spiteful people who condone anything that makes TFW happy. Including the beating of small children. That is just tragic.
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What is equally tragic are those teens (like Paige and Emily) and young adults out there who think that she is God's gift to Motherhood. She is their role model, their inspiration, Mother Earth, a saint among parents and they want to be just like her. Not only tragic, but frightening. Let's hope that as these young women mature that they wake up and their value system becomes much more than just trying to emulate the Kate Gosselin who is still stuck in her early teen years. Who knows what will happen? The answer, my friend, is....
I debated whether to write this post. I am going to be as generic as possible to protect children. Robert stated in his book that all of that information was only about 5% of the information he has. He said the rest will never see the light of day, unless he is pushed and forced to defend himself, as in a court of law. Now, here are some puzzle pieces that I put together and something that I believed true from when I first watched the show in 2008!
The school expulsion. Robert stated that in 2012, he obtained information regarding the expulsion that was far worse than he could put into words. A certain child was removed from school due to interaction or "lack of interaction" with adults. Kate stated in 2011, on the Today show, that they were dealing with "very real medical issues", when asked about how the kids were faring post expulsion.
Robert made it clear in his book that he could not say why the child/ren were expelled, because he gave his word he would not say anything. That could only be a promise to Jon. Robert dedicated his book specifically to one child only. My personal opinion is a diagnosis on the spectrum of autism. Again, only an opinion, no facts, just guesses from all facts I've studied. If there is any truth to that, there may be some reasons as to why Robert is so desperate to out Kate's truths for the betterment and emotional well being off ALL children and for treatment for Kate as well.
OrangeCrusher1 said... 154
"Chore completion discrepancy"
Seriously, who talks like that, to kids or adults?
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Gosh, the first thing that comes to my mind is the Schutzstaffel. "You vill do as ve say of you vill be severely punished. Do you verstehen?".
This inspector thing reminds of the episode where she was looking for a housekeeper then after the girl was finished, she went around behind her and bitched about the places she missed. Well if it was so dirty that means Kate wasn't much of a housekeeper herself.
Now she's got the kids doing the white glove inspection? She's sick in the head. If her plan is to pit them against each other it sounds like it's working. That way they won't all turn against her at once.
And just what has she got left to do in that house as far as work is concerned? Cook? Big deal. She has a cleaning staff of eight and two dishwashers.
She's a lazy assed dictator not a mother.
Sometimes her odd phrasing and word choices like Chore completion discrepancy remind me of Aspergers.
What's funny too is inspector gadget wasn't really a police officer or hall monitor. He was an investigator. He solved mysteries. What's mysterious about leaving a crumb on the floor? And he was sort of inept if I recall. His niece Penny ended up solving everything but he took credit, it was a running gag.
Ally (163),
I understand what you are saying in your post above. When we adopted one of our sons, he was diagnosed with certain traits (I think you know what kind of traits I'm talking about). And yes, I have noticed similar traits in someone else, dating back many years. That someone needs very dedicated guidance and help, and I hope with all my heart that that person is getting it.
Ally, I agree with you in my thought son this. The behavior of one of the children made think perhaps he was on the autistic spectrum and/ or had ADHD, neither of which TFW would be pleased about.Perhaps that is why she took her wrath out on the 'imperfect' child. Again, JMO.
What gets me is that according to her brother, Kate skipped out on her chores all the time when they were growing up. She'd find someone else to do her work for her while she disappeared. She could get away with it but her kids aren't supposed to.
New Gosselinbook post.
Before we go off on any tangent speculating about possible diagnoses, remember that these children have been abused (yes, I believe that) and trauma has been shown to affect neurological development.
Addionally, even IF there were a diagnosis for one or more child, there is nothing shameful about that.
The shame would lie in not getting said child help.
Ally -- I agree with you. I've worked with kids on the autism spectrum and seen behaviors in one of the children that raised a few red flags to me. It also wouldn't surprise me if at least one of the kids is ADHD.
Admin -- yes, her word usage is strange. If I didn't know better, I'd say that English isn't her first language, or even her second.
Wow good for Rushie. That's the hallmark of a mature adult. If you have a problem with me that's ok that's your right to say it. I won't be a baby about it or bully you to stop. Now if only he could find the right courthouse and he might make it in this law business.
Armchair diagnoses of these children makes me even more uncomfortable than criticism of their physical attributes. Isn't objection to this kind of speculation one of the very reasons we were all opposed to their exploitation in the first place?
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That's why people are careful not to use names and reinforce it's just an opinion. People are ' diagnosing 'Kate here all the time as well as mentioning possible outcomes for the children.. It's just discussion. I know you are speaking in the best interest of the kids and I can't disagree with that.
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 18h
My kids candy fueled comedy act: listening 2 'spa' music on my phone &attempting2meditate They look mostly like discombobulated spiders!
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Amanda from Iowa says:..................discombobulated ...uh what ??? Who talks/ tweets like that?
Isn't there a grandparent event coming up at their school? I wonder if any grandparents will come?
chore completion discrepancy
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Maybe while Kate was tweeting she was flipping through a dictionary and playing "use these words in a sentence".
Or maybe one of the kids have a spelling test and she was using whatever words they were spelling. Her tweets last night were full of ramblings and strange word connections.
Amanda from Iowa says:..................discombobulated ...uh what ??? Who talks/ tweets like that?
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Sadly, we do here. In fact, I am almost ashamed to admit it, but when I went to the store, got to the register and couldn't find my bonus card, i told the clerk that I was totally discombobulated today.
Kate, however, used it in the wrong context. It means confused. She used the word in referring to a spider. I think she probably meant mutated or not put together well.
"Isn't there a grandparent event coming up at their school? I wonder if any grandparents will come?"
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Yes, but not all kids have grandparents, and if they do, not all live close enough to attend. In that case, there are grandparent subs who are with the kids. No student is alone or has no one. It certainly would be nice, though, if the children had bonded with their "real" grandparents so that a substitute wouldn't be necessary.
Jon should be very concerned about the tweet that kate retweeted about We are all going to die. Either she is drunk and super depressed about Steve or depressed about not having anything coming down the tube for her. Except the lawsuit.
If I saw Robert's post and I was kate, I would drop that suit in a heartbeat. But she won't and the depositions are going to crush her.
Bud Cooper @userback 4m
All Kate Gosselin has to do is say she is sorry to me for attacking me and I will forgive her and follow her again
I hate to tell you this, Bud, but I seriously doubt if you are Kate's first thought in the morning when she wakes up, wondering whether or not you will forgive her. She's got bigger things on her plate right now, and your "following her" really isn't one of them.
Any news yet on what this super big Christmas surprise "addition" is, or was that just another one of her teasing games to get the sheeple to bite?
Don't care if true or not true. If true, it was 7.5 years ago. If not true, RH is creepy maniacal stalker.
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tweet from one of WOS's biggest fans.
So she only has accusations for Robert? REALLY??
she sounds like she knows first hand the cycle of abuse...
And where is Milo?
I hope Robert publishes whatever he thinks the public show know concerning WOS.
It might be so bad only the authorities need to know...
Yesterday at a tag sale I picked up her book (the one about writing each kid a letter).
I was able to read the book jacket, and seems like 'she' stated how much she relied on God to provide for her family in the beginning...
but (and this is my opinion)like lots of other folks, when the going got good, she pushed God to the side and started depending on herself..
Also, the book jacket said something like she is sharing in the book letters she wrote her kids in her journal. I wonder if 'these letters' are the same ones she printed in the book....or are they 're-written', like Beth omitted the abusive parts of the journal from the first book?
After the holiday break, I am going to read (try to, ahem) the book and then compare it to Robert's.
*I paid .50 cents for the book. Think I paid too much? LOL
fade2black -- We aren't diagnosing the kids. We're just expressing concern that we see traits that could indicate problems. Many of us here have experience in the area, as teachers, parents or medical professionals. If someone said "________ is autistic" or "_______ is schizophrenic" or whatever, then I would agree with you. But we aren't. No kids were named and we only spoke in generalities.
So many concerns for those poor kids, on so many levels.
One of my grandchildren has issues, now being dealt with, but the extent of which was missed by all of us. My daughter and sil are very attentive, caring parents, and I'm a very involved nana, and we had no idea of the depth of the problem.
I can only imagine what doesn't get noticed since TFW is either not there or is tweeting. Or screaming. She doesn't strike me as the kind of person who notices much of anything about her children.
Bitchy Pants..
Thank you for your support of my opinion. It was very hard to write. I really want the best for those children.
If anyone has questions on developmental pediatrics I would be more than happy to share my professional opinions and answer any questions. I enjoy all your thoughts and I particular the different areas of expertise we can bring to the table. Thanks for the thoughtful remarks...I must say I was very nervous about sharing that thought...but it has been eating at me and I think all children and animals are precious...and deserve loving, nurturing homes. I get choked up when I think about my puppy treated the way shoka and nala have been...his 3rd birthday is December 4th and I just love him to pieces and he gives me lots of wet kisses!!
If anyone has questions on developmental pediatrics I would be more than happy to share my professional opinions and answer any questions.
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Are you a pediatric physician, Ally, or a child psychologist?
Kate Gosselin@Kateplusmy81m
Kids laughing and wrestling excessively..
Leah: mommy, I think I have the disease of 'laugh-a-citis'
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Deflect, deflect, deflect.
And where is Milo?
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Enroute to Pennsylvania? Word is that she will be preparing Kate's Thanksgiving turkey this year, and she wanted to settle in first...get to know the household...and REALLY get to know Kate! :-)
Over the river and through the woods
And straight through the Gosselin's gate.
It seems that we go so dreadfully slow;
It is so hard to wait.
Over the river and through the woods,
Now Kate's daisy dukes I spy.
Hurrah for fun; the homemade pizza's done;
Hurrah for the Yucky pie.
I wanted to make one other comment about a tweet someone posted here about advice Kate to a young mother with a 19 month old having temper tantrums and advice. Kate told her to ignore her and leave her on the floor and ignore her.
This is yet again the WRONG advice to give a young mother. If the child was 3,4 or 5 years old, that may be correct. Older children are more likely throwing that tantrum because they want something they can't have and think that by throwing the tantrum, mom will give in to their wants and desires, in sheer desperation to end the tantrum. This solves nothing and the child has learned that by throwing a tantrum, they get what they want, when they want it. Ignoring the behavior, because the child is looking to get attention and " a rise" out of mom or dad is appropriate, when the child is in a safe place.
However, the key here is the fact that this child is ONLY 19 months old. 19 month old don't have the mental capacity to intentionally annoy mom, although Kate thinks they do if you read her journals. How she graduated nursing school astounds me. In this case, developmentally a 19 month old doesn't have the verbal ability to express their emotions. Their vocabulary is not advanced enough. So they get easily frustrated. Thus, the tantrums...??terrible twos?? Ignoring this child is not going to help settle the child. Calmly speaking to the child using age apprpriate words in order to understand the frustration.
I cringe when Kate gives parenting, developmental or medical advice. She is usually 100% wrong. In this this, her actions would do more harm than good. Nice Kate..
She's baaack.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 4m
@Kateplusmy8 Just like her Mom..."Kate speak"...she makes up a word 2say what she means! As in "silly-i-tis"! :)
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It's baaaacccckkkk!! Sigh...
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 6m
@Kateplusmy8 Remember last time we did this surprise...guessing thing...I ended up w/a new puppy! LOL How many guesses do I get?
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How could anyone forget? You kept on and on and on about it. Kate didn't give a rat's patooty about the new dog. She was just concerned that you'd show up at her door.
http://gosselinbook.blogspot.com/2013/11/kate-gosselins-boozer-worse-national.html
More from Robert.
Throw in the towel, Kate.
Ahhh...the self-imposed exile has ended, I see. I knew the "nanny, nanny boo-boo" tease would draw her out!
Ahhh...the self-imposed exile has ended, I see. I knew the "nanny, nanny boo-boo" tease would draw her out!
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But so far Kate hasn't said, "Where have you been, sweetheart? I was so worried..."
Now, now, Fleecing...we don't know what's been going on behind the scenes, what with all the other ways they are a-communicatin'!!
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