My family will be gathering at my elderly parents' home this year, with each family member/group bringing something for the meal. My contributions this year will be the yams, and pumpkin pie. I will confess that I am buying ready made yams from Trader Joe's - but they are so delicious and better than I could make anyway! However, I am making the pumpkin pie myself lol.
That slow cooker cheesecake sounds interesting. I'm off to google some recipes!
Why does everyone think it's a horse?? Kate is to stingy to buy and maintain a horse. Besides I think the kids ( boys) are on overload with chores. It has to be a very small dog or cat, though I lean more towards dog because of damage control with the lawsuit.
Formerly Duped, I've had UTI' s before and have always had meds for them. I think water, juice, yogurt (???) might be good for prevention but once you have the infection I don't know. Hope you feel better!!
For the first time I'm not making a whole turkey. I ordered a breast with bone from Whole Foods and will see how that works out. I'm also going to make something in the slow cooker, maybe a roast? Knowing me I'll probably still be thinking about it on Friday . LOL
Sherry Baby said... 181 Ouch! What about cranberry yogurt? Wouldn't that offer double protection? ;-) Or Oikos Greek? You'd have Stamos appearing in your bathroom and you'd forget about the infection. ***************************8 OMG!!!! You just made me snort coffee! roflmbo ....... I'm sorry, the image is making me giggle all over again.
John Stamos is a "breathtakingly beautiful" man. I'm sure he has many faults, but oh boy, is he easy on the eyes.
If TFW got an animal, it has to be a low maintenance one. I'm guessing kitten based on ease of care. Just feed, water, and scoop out the cat litter. A hamster/gerbil requires a lot of cleaning up after. And there's now way TFW would buy a horse, as it's a money pit.
I think the Milo speculation is very interesting. The concept that it could be a hired company with a team working on the account would explain a lot. Then when Milo goes on twitter silence, we can assume it's because TFMJG had not paid the bill for services rendered!
Millicent said... 4 Sherry Baby said... 181 Ouch! What about cranberry yogurt? Wouldn't that offer double protection? ;-) Or Oikos Greek? You'd have Stamos appearing in your bathroom and you'd forget about the infection. ***************************8 OMG!!!! You just made me snort coffee! roflmbo ....... I'm sorry, the image is making me giggle all over again.
John Stamos is a "breathtakingly beautiful" man. I'm sure he has many faults, but oh boy, is he easy on the eyes.
Lol lol lol, but yeah, seeing John Stamos will cure anything!!! BTW whenever I was pregnant I was advised by my midwives to use natural yoghurt dipped tampons against yeast infections, feels weird but works like a charm! Tip: warm up the yoghurt when fresh out of fridge before use!
Kate is stingy if there's nothing in it for her. I wonder how many thousands of dollars she has and will continue to throw away with this lawsuit, which I believe was to score her more interviews for her cookbook. Why else would Kate have timed it so late in the game, years after the fact? If there's another incarnation in the cards for Katie, she'll do it.
Lol lol lol, but yeah, seeing John Stamos will cure anything!!! BTW whenever I was pregnant I was advised by my midwives to use natural yoghurt dipped tampons against yeast infections, feels weird but works like a charm! Tip: warm up the yoghurt when fresh out of fridge before use! ------------------
I didn't use tampons dipped in yogurt and I didn't have any yeast infections during my pregnancies. Maybe you wouldn't have had any yeast infections even if you didn't use yogurt dipped tampons.
Sorry but only the bottom part is my reaction, I forgot to----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Lol lol lol, but yeah, seeing John Stamos will cure anything!!! BTW whenever I was pregnant I was advised by my midwives to use natural yoghurt dipped tampons against yeast infections, feels weird but works like a charm! Tip: warm up the yoghurt when fresh out of fridge before use!
I remember reading somewhere that Mark Steines left his wife and I went to wiki to see if anything was there.
He married former Entertainment Tonight correspondent and Miss America 1993 Leanza Cornett on the island of Kauai on July 22, 1995. They have two sons, Kai Harper and Avery James ("AJ"). In January 2013 Steines and Cornett officially announced that they will seek a divorce after 17 years of marriage.
He also went to college on a football scholarship and graduated with a B.A. in radio and television.
See kate, if you didn't want to go back into nursing, why didn't you enroll into college and get your Associates or Bachelors in Radio and Television and take voice and acting classes. You had the money to hire good people to take care of things while you were gone. They could of been taken to sports, gymnastics, library, friends, scouts. My middle son, made all-stars in baseball when he was 10 and I drove him for a week and stayed there and waited till it was over with for 2 hours at least. I took books, newspapers. I added over 400 miles on the odometer that week. Well worth it.
But, you decided to take the lazy road and exploit your ATM's.
lukebandit, Mark went to college with me! We were both in the Public Relations/Communications program at the University of Northern Iowa. A little trivia: a few years after we both graduated, the Julia Roberts film "Sleeping With the Enemy" was filmed in part on our campus. Mark worked for a local TV station then as a cameraman, and we were able to use some of their equipment on a project we did together his senior year. He also filled in as a sportscaster and I think also as a weatherman when needed. He was a hard worker, an all-around great guy, and he's far too good for the likes of TFW. You could tell even back then that he was going places, and he was never afraid to put in the hard work to get there. Please, dear God, don't let TFW get her claws into him. He is way too nice for the likes of her. She does not deserve him.
Thanks, gals! You're real pals! I don't have a UTI now but am prone to them. Yes, my dr used to give me an a/b to use if I felt symptoms as I've had so many and know what it is. Or some drs give you a low dose to take before and after sex. Now they aren't doing that I guess b/c of the resistance as someone mentioned. I was just wondering if anyone else who was prone to them had a sure-fire method of prevention. I'm not giving up - - - lol TMI ,I know! It is a factor for many women. Thanks for the many suggestions.
Or some drs give you a low dose to take before and after sex. Now they aren't doing that I guess b/c of the resistance as someone mentioned. I was just wondering if anyone else who was prone to them had a sure-fire method of prevention. I'm not giving up - - - lol TMI ,I know! It is a factor for many women. Thanks for the many suggestions. ****** Pee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! after sex. Never, ever don't pee after sex. Cotton undies. Some meds leave you prone, too.
TFW is doing way too much deflecting with this "new addition". She's trying to distract the sheep from something. Let's see, her reply to Robert's MTD is coming up in a couple days (Wednesday, wasn't it?). I suspect she's going to drop the charges against him that day. Who wants to bet she reveals her new addition that day and posts loads of pictures of whatever it is snuggling with the kids. Keep the sheep focused on her new puppy or kitten or whatever and not the fact that her lawsuit failed.
I don't watch a lot of the Food Network these days, but have it on today while doing Thanksgiving prep. Watching a rerun of the Pioneer Woman do her Thanksgiving dinner on the ranch. I can take her in small doses, but I am struck by how authentic she is. Sorry TFW, if this is a real person on tv looks like, you have miles and and miles to go - you and your toxic personality could never pull off a cooking show.
Layla said... 15 lukebandit, Mark went to college with me! We were both in the Public Relations/Communications program at the University of Northern Iowa. ******** Very cool! This is exactly what Kate could have done. She's got the money and the time and could have been on her way to a life-long earnings potential degree in the field she proclaims to love. The difference is, she loves yakyakyaking about Kate and has no academic bone in her body. She thinks she so endlessly interesting that everyone is going to want to hear the latest minutiae about her and her average kids forever. Not so. Plus, what do they do when not filming? Totally average stuff. No sports, no all-stars games, no nothing. Legos? puleez. Stuffed animals and dolls? Yawn.
I'm of course hoping that if the "addition" is an animal, it's totally low maintenance, like a turtle. I'm hoping it's not a small dog or cat. Shoka's prey instinct is off the charts and the compound is not an appropriate home as long as Shoka is there.
For Thanksgiving I'm doing turkey, stuffing (Pepperidge Farm), butternut squash, green bean casserole (this will be my first time trying it. I found a recipe from Paula Dean that sounds good), sauteed brussel sprouts with garlic, shallots, and either pancetta or roasted proscuito sprinkled on top, mashed potatoes, homemade gravy, cranberry sauce (Ocean Spray in the can 'cause that's what everyone likes) and rolls. Younger daughter is bringing an apple, a pumpkin and a pecan pie. I'll be making homemade whipped cream to go on top. I just made myself hungry.
Tuckers Mom (18) ABSOLUTELY. It sounds crass, but it works. I've never had a UTI and I've been married for nearly 20 years. (just make sure you are in the bathroom when you do.) ;-)
capecodmama said... 23 ****** You menu sounds wonderful. For the brussel sprouts, if you're using proscuitto, try roasting it in the oven to crisp it up. This can be done a day or more ahead of time, and stored in an air-tight container. Place parchment or foil on a baking sheet. Preheat oven to 425 and place single-layered proscuitto on pan. Roast for 5-6 minutes until crispy. Allow to cool and crumble. The salt compliments the sprouts to nicely!
It sounds crass, but it works. I've never had a UTI and I've been married for nearly 20 years. (just make sure you are in the bathroom when you do.) ;-)
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Anyone want some interesting Gosselin news...check out 2190 Andrews Avenue, Elizabethtown, PA on Zillow! The house just sold again on 9/13/13...tons of news pics...see what the new owners did to the house!
Ally: Kate's old home is very nice and appears to have had lots of room. There were more than enough bedrooms for all 8 kids. The kitchen is big. I really don't know why Kate moved. Besides having what looks like a nice neighborhood, and probably lots of kids to play with, a very normal house. OH! what am I saying! Kate does not accept or like or love normal/mediocre/mundane/regular anything. It has to be bigger, isolated, not near any neighbors, or shopping. Who knows what goes on in that house. Jon was right. The kids go to expensive school and they are isolated from the outside world. The kids get entitled etc and they don't have hardly any friends. Cause, most live too far away and Kate being anal, Kate picks the friends, for the kids. And uses the excuse of they live too far away, for kids time, kid activities and visiting anyone. Very sad. Hope Jon is filling the void.
OT: anyone here ever tried ironing a vinyl tablecloth? It's really wrinkly! I am going to try iron on low setting with a dishcloth as pressing cloth to protect the vinyl. Any other ideas, would love to hear them.
Just looked up Kate's faker score on Status People. She has 24% of her followers as fake, 51% inactive and 25% good. As opposed to my scores which have 1% fake followers, 36% inactive and 63 % of my followers are good. I've been on Twitter since 2007 so my inactive numbers don't surprise me. A lot of people sign up for Twitter and don't keep it up.
I'm watching last night's episode of The Good Wife and it resonates with Kate's drama re: defamation and using social bots. Had to explain to DH the concept of bots and how they're used to increase followers and social media presence online. Funny that Robert posted about the same thing.
You can google anything! If anyone ever needs to know, you can get wrinkles out of a vinyl tablecloth by putting the tablecloth and a damp towel in the dryer for five to ten minutes on high setting, then take out as soon as time is up, put warm tablecloth on table and it will lay flat. It works! Now on to cleaning off kitchen counters, and putting out items to get ready for Thursday.
Ally said... 28 Anyone want some interesting Gosselin news...check out 2190 Andrews Avenue, Elizabethtown, PA on Zillow! The house just sold again on 9/13/13...tons of news pics...see what the new owners did to the house! _________________
I don't see anything interesting. Could you just tell us what it is instead so I don't feel like I'm playing a guessing game with Kate. ;)
I'm sorry but if you are constantly tweeting about how busy busy busy you are with never-ending to-do lists, Inspector gadget being screamed at over chores, 8! kids, a dog, and fish, why in the hell would you bring something else into the mix. She has no right to complain anymore about how busy she is.
JoyinVirginia said... 37 You can google anything! If anyone ever needs to know, you can get wrinkles out of a vinyl tablecloth by putting the tablecloth and a damp towel in the dryer for five to ten minutes on high setting, then take out as soon as time is up, put warm tablecloth on table and it will lay flat. It works!
I still don't understand why they ever left that house on Andrews. It was plenty big enough. The bigger, bigger, bigger motto that Kate has is biting her right square in the ass.
They left the Andrews house because she needed more privacy for the constant filming. The neighbors in the old 'hood were getting increasingly less happy with the night shoots, the klieg lights and the disregard for THEIR comfort. She wanted to turn the house into a set, so she moved her family away from view. It was always about filming.
I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to learn that TFW's 'surprise' was a new freezer, or dishwasher. They have legs, right? Otherwise, I join the others who are hoping against hope that IF the surprise is a living thing, it is another fish.
Anyone want some interesting Gosselin news...check out 2190 Andrews Avenue, Elizabethtown, PA on Zillow! The house just sold again on 9/13/13...tons of news pics...see what the new owners did to the house! _________________
I don't see anything interesting. Could you just tell us what it is instead so I don't feel like I'm playing a guessing game with Kate. ;)
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I didn't see anything new other than that the walls were painted different colors and it looked very nice.
The kids go to expensive school and they are isolated from the outside world. The kids get entitled etc and they don't have hardly any friends.
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The kids are in school five days a week, seven hours a day. How is that being isolated from the outside world, and unless one is there, how can it be said that they have hardly any friends?
I didn't see anything new other than that the walls were painted different colors and it looked very nice. ***** The peninsula cabinets were taken out in the kitchen and that makes a big difference. It would drive me nuts to have to peer underneath them all the time. I would have replaced them with glass fronted, shorter cabinets. I think the Etown has was too small for them. It had enough bedrooms, but the first floor layout was gawdawful. That small living area in front was useless for such a big family and the kitchen didn't have enough counter space or room for the appliances needed. I think they could have added on, but I too would say "screw that" and move if possible. I don't think Kate needed that compound, but a bigger, more open house with room to spread out? Sure.
I stumbled upon the house pics and thought the house seemed much homier than when Kate lived there. They ripped out some of the kitchen cabinets to open up the kitchen and the children's bedrooms looked inviting for young children. Plus they painted the front and I thought the black shutters made a great contrast on the brick. All I meant was there was a nice homey feel and a well cared for home. I thought it looked beautiful. I thought people might be interested in seeing the new pictures. That's all. I resent that you tell me I am playing childish guessing games like Kate. I specifically told you there were new pics of the house to see. They did some minor remodeling and I thought the home looked really great. That's all.
Ally said... 48 ***** The house looks FAR better than when kate and Jon owned it. It's warm and homey with color! Other than the TLC sanctioned studio photos on drab walls, the house was practically sterile. The compound is sterile to me. Just blah. No warmth or personality.
Ally, thanks for sharing! That house is a lot bigger than I thought - 3,446 square feet, 5 bedrooms. It's very spacious.
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There is no way that the house is that many square feet, unless they are counting attic bedrooms and a finished basement, which, in this area is not counted when placing a home on the market for sale. The only areas included in square footage is the main floor and the second floor.
I resent that you tell me I am playing childish guessing games like Kate. I specifically told you there were new pics of the house to see. They did some minor remodeling and I thought the home looked really great. That's all. _______________
I apologize for what sounded like a flippant remark. My only excuse is between doing some multitasking (cleaning my oven changing bed linen) and reading off and on, I thought I saw something you said that you didn't say at all. Again, I apologize.
I have had a rough few days here and am going to take a break. I have more than my own share of stress and difficulties at the moment and some posts have gotten a little too intense for me. My intentions have only ever been pure and with the best of interests. I don't know if it was a sheeple drive by, but questioning my profession and my ability to formulate my own opinions was pretty nasty. I would never diagnose anyone via television and tabloids, it was a thought...that's all. I tend to be overly sensitive and I know this. So I will take a break for a while and hope everyone has a nice holiday season and hope to come back refreshed in the new year.
Kate got a conure. She has absolutely no clue how to care for a parrot. Conures are wonderful, but they are also among the noisiest of parrots. They don't shriek with pleasure or glee. They scream whenever they feel like it. This is not going to sit well with her. Unless she got one of the very few vocal conures, she's not going to have that bird more than a few months. If she wanted a bird, an African Grey, a Jardine, a Goffin, or a little parrotlet would have been a much better choice.
Wait until the first time it bites her, and Kate, don't put that bird on your bare neck. You don't know the bird, and they are unpredictable.
Well well the family Christmas gift; a parrot named Zorro. How to save $$$$$ at Christmas buy one parrot as a family gift?!?!. Notice the pic with bird on Kate's shoulder, no kids, but forehead really shiny. Guess the other gift was Botox for Kate.
Ally, thanks for sharing! That house is a lot bigger than I thought - 3,446 square feet, 5 bedrooms. It's very spacious.
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There is no way that the house is that many square feet, unless they are counting attic bedrooms and a finished basement, which, in this area is not counted when placing a home on the market for sale. The only areas included in square footage is the main floor and the second floor.
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You're right, PA Dutch. Looks like Zillow had a typo to the tune of 2,000 square feet! Trulia lists it as 1,494 square feet. I was wondering where they hid all that space in that house!
I sure hope Shoka doesn't get a hold of that little bird. I too have thought about getting a bird like that, but with a Lab that has a strong prey instinct, there's no way I'd ever chance it.
A Mom said... 55 Well well the family Christmas gift; a parrot named Zorro. How to save $$$$$ at Christmas buy one parrot as a family gift?!?!. Notice the pic with bird on Kate's shoulder, no kids, but forehead really shiny. Guess the other gift was Botox for Kate.
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All I noticed was the big teeth. Again.
Anyway, now the fans can go superfuncrazy over the fact she bought...a bird. See kids...daddy doesn't have one of these!!!
Oh dear God, I am so upset to hear she has brought another living creature into that home. I pray I am wrong, but I just imagine a tortured existence for that dear bird. Plus as an animal lover I abhor the very idea of keeping a parrot inside a house. This actually makes me ill. All of the yelling and screaming, the competition between the children....oh this is not good.
My mom emailed our whole family yesterday giving birthday wishes to our childhood pet, an African Grey, who turned 37. He currently is living with my sister and he is a talker! Birds are messy though; poor kids one more chore to do.
Kate is a liar who lies. It's such a tiny thing, but maybe indicative of her thinking. Or maybe just petty. She feeds the bird organic Cheerios. There is no such thing. Cheerios are absolutely not organic. Does she just throw " organic" in front of every food she writes that they eat? There are o -shaped cereals that are organic, but they are different brands. It's insulting that she just makes up her truth. Also, she needs Mady to edit her. New York Times best selling author twice neglected to use apostrophes for possession.
Ally, you have been taking some beatings here and it has never been deserved. I have always enjoyed your posts. Have yourself wonderful holidays and I do hope you come back. I would miss you.
@Tucker's Mom, that's right, the dog that kills and eats groundhogs too. Omg, that poor bird. There are so many parrot rescue groups now in this country, for neglected, abused and abandoned parrots. Mark my words if this poor bird survives that mad house, it won't be staying long. She is insane.
I just read the blog. Kate, whatever you do, don't let the kids walk around with the bird on their shoulder. Please. The bird doesn't know you or the kids, and if something spooks him, he will bite. At one time in my past life (a long time ago), I trained parrots. My hands and arms have the scars to prove it. A couple bites resulted in stitches.
Conures are not good talkers. If you wanted a bird with a vocabulary, a Grey would have been so much better. You can actually have conversations with them, and the kids would have so much fun teaching the bird to sing and talk. I've actually had arguments with mine and I think, "why am I having a discussion with a bird?" Last night he told me that the "turkey wasn't cooked." I have no idea where that came from. He also scolded me this morning because I forgot to turn off the light in his room last night.
And Kate, no scented candles or Febreeze anywhere in the house, and cooking with teflon can be toxic. Geez, I hope she doesn't do anything stupid with that bird.
I've actually had arguments with mine and I think, "why am I having a discussion with a bird?" Last night he told me that the "turkey wasn't cooked." I have no idea where that came from. He also scolded me this morning because I forgot to turn off the light in his room last night. ***** How delightful! That is so cool! Now with dogs you actually have to make a goofy voice and speak for them, so essentially, you're on both sides of the conversation.
Oh great, another job, or two, on the chore chart. Birds are messy, cages are not fun to clean. Wonder if she asked the kids, or just thought this one up on her own. Hope she, the parrot, and Skoka enjoy T-day together. First time it nips her there will be shrieking all around. Idiot.
Birds are messy though; poor kids one more chore to do.
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Birds are very messy. Wait until she sees how much seed and veggies land on the floor. I hope the housekeeper doesn't mind cleaning it up. Seed catchers do not do the job. I thought she was piecing and patching. A conure might run around $500 from a petshop, and a good cage can cost about $600 - $800, and with toys and accessories, she has well over a thousand dollars spent there.
There are so many parrot rescue groups now in this country, for neglected, abused and abandoned parrots. Mark my words if this poor bird survives that mad house, it won't be staying long. She is insane.
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You're right, reader. I have a few rescues right now waiting to be adopted. I don't have good feelings about that bird. Conures scream. She's not going to put up with that.
Kate, in the saga of Zorro, first says that she noticed him perched on the shoulder of a store employee. Then this employee turns into the store manager.
Then to top it off, she just now learns that the store manager has Shoka's brother!! I didn't even know Shoka had a brother. And now they are planning a play date so that he can have a reunion with his long-lost brother.
Haven't they been going to this pet store for awhile? Is this the same store that they filmed an episode in when they first got Shoka back? And just now she finds out that the store manager has Shoka's brother? Yeah right.
Sleepless In Seattle said... 67 ''........Geez, I hope she doesn't do anything stupid with that bird.'' ~~~~~~~~~~ Too late. She's already done the most stupid thing by buying it and bringing it home! My mind refuses to allow me to think of all the things that can go wrong with yet another stupid thing that WOS has done!
Ally, I'm sorry I didn't say something before but don't feel bad about comments that sometimes are just downright nasty. I read your comments and I agree with many things that you said.
Also Kate's fans come here to be mean and disruptive because really this is one of the last blogs that call out Kate's bullshit! They would love to get rid of all of us here.
When you feel better I hope you return and I wish you and your love ones a Happy Thanksgiving.
I just don't see TFW as being a bird person as friends who have birds say that they can be quite messy. I hope she proves me wrong. Are birds a new status symbol and isn't it a coincidence that the pet store employee happens to have Shoka's brother. Yeah, I believe that TFW is going to set up a play date.
Did any of you see the Nature program that was on PBS last week called Parrot Confidential? It was a documentary about the thousands of parrots in need of rescue and about how they really do not make a good pet for a lot of people.
Cleaning out the bird cage?...sigh...just another chore to add to the kids list of plenty after dinner.
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The kids can rip out pages of her unsold cookbooks and line the bottom of the cage with them. There's a 30-year supply right there.
The novelty, like everything else she brings into that home, will soon wear off. That poor bird will end up be nothing but an annoyance to her for its screeching and the kids fighting over it. Shoka will instinctively see it as prey, so he'll be constantly scolded and punished. It's all so very, very wrong.
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Kate is a twit said... 77 - And just now she finds out that the store manager has Shoka's brother? Yeah right.
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Exactly what I thought. And if true, I can't believe the store manager would allow her to take that bird home. Once again, something stinks with her story and it ain't Zorro.
Ugh. I apologize to those with birds but I hate the idea of a bird in a cage. Why is she taking on the responsibility of yet another living thing? She has gone on and on about how hard it is to manage all this, how does it make any sense to just make the job all the HARDER and take on even more?
Ally said... 53 please don't go. a lot of us don't feel welcomed here sometimes.
Dang, half my posts never come through. But, I like reading the other topics on here about people and their lives, recipes, animals, their jobs and so on...
I like your post and ex nurse too. I really believe it was KG arguing with you. Covering up the truth. No one else would have that deep interest in trying to discourage you. Stay A..Happy Holidays
Kate, me oh my..take the bird back., Please..return the bird asap.
Mistake, huge big mistake. My neighbor has one and it demands constant attention that YOU can't give when your kids are at school or with their father. These birds do not tolerate being alone. They are loud.
Huge mistake Kate, huge. You will lose patience fast. And it will bite the kids and you. Just a matter of time, and it hurts. Do not hurt the bird. It can not take a stressful environment.
Who talked you into this?
Your kids can get sick if the cage is not cleaned the right way. You are a nurse? I can't believe it. I watch my neighbor spend hours washing that cage and the mess with a garden hose he has to use is too much!
This a quick video from an exotic bird specialist. A few quick highlights:
I am going to tell you which parrots are the most popular with people. But first, and more importantly, I am going to discuss with you which people parrots like the best.
The first thing is: parrots like people that are calm, and sedate, and talk softly. They like that a lot. If you are a quick mover, if you are fast, if you are loud, then generally, you are not going to be a good bird owner. The second thing that I have noticed is that people that have really good relationships with their birds are basically over average intelligence, a little eccentric, very compassionate, and passionate about their hobbies; birds being one of them. So if you possess those traits, the chances are that parrots are going to like you.
Why is she taking on the responsibility of yet another living thing? ***********************************************************
There are always strings attached when a narc seemingly does something nice. It's another way to keep the kids on their toes, get them excited and then pull the rug out from under them. It'll be used, as you all said, as another responsibility to add to their never ending (on going) list of chores. It's also ammunition against their father but she can also use it as bragging rights. "See all that I buy/do for you" And also to belittle the kids for the way THEY will care for it. AND she'll make it that it was THEM who wanted it, THEY have to care for it. Wonder how many of those kids will grow up hating pets???
Ok, something BIG must be coming out with the book about some REAL animal abuse. The whole convoluted story about how she got the parrot? Play date? When a narc lies and the story is just a wee bit too long and strange? She's covering something. But you can bet this new version of the "truth" has already wiped out the REAL truth from her pea brain.
She is feeding the bird cheerios? **************************************************************** Well for sure!! She got a s%$#&load on sale with her cue-pons!! She laments and goes on and on about having to feed sooooo many kids, and then, sure enough, brings in another "mouth" to feed. You will never understand the mind of a narcissist. NEVER
All of the yelling and screaming, the competition between the children....oh this is not good. *************************************************************** You got it reader! And that's what narcs LIVE for. They create the chaos and then will freak out about it. They can't help themselves. On to the next shiny bobble. And again, it's EIGHT kids that she's effing up, a dog and now a parrot. It's like a game, how many victims can I leave in my wake. She's run out of human beings to do this to, so that leaves animals.
Ally, I took your post exactly how you intended. I also took a break for a short time for the same reasons. Hope you have a great Thansksgiving and look forward to reading your posts again:)
Thanks for the heads up on the house. I thought it looked very homey and warm, too. Much better than the way it used to look. I checked out the price history and noticed that when the G's tried to sell it they listed, took it off and raised the price by $100,000! Needless to say it ended up selling for much less.
Auntie Ann...No Kate, you abusive witch. Mommy Doeslittle is more like it. Love this, thanks for the morning laugh!!
If TFW actually let Shoka in the house at times, I see that coming to an end with the new bird. Poor Shoka. I can’t imagine that TFW is going to put up with the mess and the noise the bird makes. She returned the dogs so I predict this bird will go back to the pet store within 6 months.
Admin, I share your sentiments about seeing birds in cages. Sigh... If you stop and think about it, TFW's kids are caged birds, too.
Something about the story of how this bird came to be...it doesn't quite add up. Many of you have already pointed to some discrepancies and oddities, and I have to say that this seems to me another example of how she backfills reality with fantastical flourishes. Like the story of the tow truck, the sidelined Audi...more stories than I can count. I just don't see how a self-confessed OCD -- someone who attempts to control her environment in ways most of us have never seen-- would choose a bird like that. Self-imposed havoc. It's a disaster in the making.
This woman is an idiot. From People Magazine, this past August, just over 3 months ago, "I'm living very carefully these days," and that she is making ends meet "piecing and patching together."
So when you have 8 children, some with behavioral problems, a heavy mortgage, 3 luxury cars to maintain, and so on and so on (we know the list) no employment prospects, and you'r piecing and patching money to get by, what do you do? File a federal lawsuit and buy a parrot.
Why why why in the hell would someone already going on and on about all she has to do take on one more thing. That is just stupid. My friend's exotic bird bit my hand once. Holy pain and bruising that was!
So when you have 8 children, some with behavioral problems, a heavy mortgage, 3 luxury cars to maintain, and so on and so on (we know the list) no employment prospects, and you'r piecing and patching money to get by, what do you do? File a federal lawsuit and buy a parrot.
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EXACTLY. Let's assume for argument's sake she IS piecing and patching. Well then I have no sympathy for her. If you are piecing and patching you have no business buying a living thing that requires a great deal of time and work and most of all money. You need to focus on pinching every penny. If anything, people who are piecing and patching need to take a serious look at whether they can even keep the animals they have let alone take on new ones. What an idiot. If she really WERE piecing and patching I think these poor kids might starve, she's that stupid.
Wow. Now don't tell me the people who work at the pet store don't KNOW who she is. They didn't try to talk her into something more compatible with her household? Irresponsible just like the dog breeder. And obviously she didn't do HER homework and research (pfft! yeah, I know!) I'm telling you, this is a pre-emptive strike. Robert???
Kate is a twit said... 74 While looking at the picture of the bird on Kate's shoulder, my first thought was "wouldn't it be funny if the bird pooped"!!
Oh, it will. My friend wears an old shirt when she takes her bird out. My friend is single, no kids, and a bird-lover though. And quiet and calm.
If you are piecing and patching you have no business buying a living thing that requires a great deal of time and work and most of all money. You need to focus on pinching every penny. ********************************************************************************
Ok, this may ruffle a few feathers (pun intended) but I feel the same way about people on welfare. Some, and I repeat "some" people on social assistance living in social housing seem to have the cutest pure bred EXPENSIVE dogs, all "tricked out" with outfits and such. Also, 'SOME' seem to have a lot of tattoos $$$(sleeves and whole back/body) WHO pays for all this???
The puppies and their accidents. She brought the male dog back for ratings after she and Jon split.
Sick kids sleep on the cold laundry room floor (while the machines are running) During baking, the kids are not allowed to spill one grain of sugar. "Yelling orders" at breakfast. She got in an argument on twitter about that one. Gum in Collin's bear. And one of the best, a child handing pizza to her boyfriend with her bare hands.
And now a complicated, pet who is not domesticated. God help that bird.
This stinks of a bribe. It's not Christmas yet. Far from it. You don't get a present just because. I'm betting one or more of the kids really wanted one. And to keep the kids all buttered up and wanting to live with her she ran out and got it for them.
Well, kids want stupid things all the time. That's when you have to explain we can't afford it, it's not practical, we're too busy for a bird, maybe we'll reconsider next year. Be a freaking adult. Stop being such an immature fool.
Yes, I am upset, really upset at how incredible selfish this woman can be. She is truly without any question in my mind a Narcissist.
Attached is a good easy read concerning parrots. God I wish someone would convince her now, before it is too late to take that bird back. She is a supreme idiot. Have some coffee TFW.
Does anyone else get the odd feeling she is intentionally setting herself up to whine and complain and be a victim?
It's almost like she's making life as hard and chaotic as possible so she can, I don't now, do the talk show circuit or sympathetic friend circuit or whine to Jon via text or whoever about how TOUGH she has it and how BUSY she is and how TIGHT money is and how she is the busiest mommy ever.
I just don't understand this decision otherwise. It's so absurd.
I'm betting one or more of the kids really wanted one. And to keep the kids all buttered up and wanting to live with her she ran out and got it for them. *******************************************************************88
But then you see, the kids will PAY for it! Narcs NEVER EVER do anything for anyone else for the pure and simple reason that it gives them pleasure. You're right, a bribe, but also something to hold over their heads. She can get rid of it just as easily as she got it. The pleasure she gets is to torture their little hearts, it's leverage for her. Another way to show them how she IS absolutely in control of them.
Yes see what Jon had to live with and see what Jodi and Ashley had to put up with and everyone else.
You know had she never gone on twitter I don't think I would have been nearly as sympathetic to her long line of victims as I am. It's a real frightening look inside that head. I feel sorry for anyone who has ever had to deal with her. It must be like having teenagers all over again. You can't reason with her. She makes such dumb impulsive decisions. She's a wackadoodle.
This stinks of a bribe. It's not Christmas yet. Far from it.
*************************************************************************** It stinks alright! I was wondering what this was about, just another caffeine fueled knee jerk parenting move or is there some ulterior motive. If I was not afraid for the parrot's safety I would hope it bites her and then poops in her "yummy stuff."
The Empress Has New Clothes said... 79 So she's going to have that bird until she's around 70 years old or so? Fascinating. I hope it knows how to help her. ********* That was one of my first thoughts. The kids will be up and out of the house and does she expect to take care of that bird when she's an empty nester? No way. I really like birds. They fascinate me, but I have great trepidation about owning one. The longevity alone should give anyone pause. These creatures are not an impulse buy, rather, I view them as a lifestyle choice. I had a parakeet as a child and it was a chore to take care of on a daily basis. Birds are messy and you can not get behind the 8 ball in keeping up with the cleaning. If Kate can't stand a "granule" on the floor, how will she tolerate the mess that will inevitably surround the bird? Feathers, feces, food will all be happening. I say this as I watch a handful of wild birds attack food on our new window feeder! Some of them are so messy and just fling the food around! We've been feeding wild birds for years, and that will have to do. It's called restraint and knowing what's best for an animal, not what's best for you.
(ps.. not for nothin' and I hope I'm not going to upset anyone, but getting any pet, well, besides a fish, for a child, for Christmas or Hunnukah is just a bad idea. Pick another time when it's not a present, because you don't unwrap it, play while ensorcelled, then lose interest. A coworker of DH's is picking up a Cavachon puppy for his son for Hannukah and to make matters worse, DH is pretty sure it's from a puppy mill, which I view the same as a pet store)
I've seen a documentary on parrots and they suffer tremendous emotional distress when neglected. I was profoundly affected watching their depression and self-mutilation. These birds are incredibly sentient creatures and if Kate can not relate to a dog, when they are so expressive, warm and lovely, how will she love a bird unconditionally? I say this having been profoundly disturbed by Robert's FIRST HAND reports of the conditions Shoka (and Nala) have lived in, and Kate's complete and utter disregard for the safety and well being of those dogs.
Teaching the kids to criticize one another's work, children including the 13 year old girls standing in line for food, boys cleaning up after 3800 chickens, corporal punishment, a dog that roams the grounds and kills. And all extended family is alienated. Its like a blend of "Mommy Dearest" and "Lord of the Flies" in that house.
We've seen this over and over with her. Do the job in the hardest possible way and complain to *everyone* how hard she has it. She sets it up for failure every time.
Remember when Shoka vomited up a partially digested small animal and all Kate could do was bitch about the rug?! My rugs have seen vomit, poop, diarrhea and even blood, but that's what the Bissell is for, for Pete's sake. My first concern is the dog and whether we need to get them to the vet/Emergency Hospital.
Lifespan of a Conure is 20 to 40 years. TFW's gonna bring that average down.
"All Conure species require daily interaction and training. The Conure parrot species are active, fun, clownish birds that need EXPERIENCED BIRD owners and lots of affection."
Attention and affection. Again I get to use a tweet that I think sums up TFW's ability to parent, or in this case provide attention and affection.
Krystal @KrystalRansom 5 Apr @Kateplusmy8 what do I do when my 19 month old has a screaming tantrum when she doesn't get her own way?
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 5 Apr @KrystalRansom ignore her. Walk over her (If on floor, throwing fit). She is looking for a reaction :) don't give her one:) GL.
Virginia Pen Mom said... 44 Ally, thanks for sharing! That house is a lot bigger than I thought - 3,446 square feet, 5 bedrooms. It's very spacious.
http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/2190-Andrew-Ave-Elizabethtown-PA-17022/9775798_zpid/ --------------------------------------------- Even though a lot of square footage, not a lot of practical square footage. A lot of the space is in the upstairs bedrooms and the basement. There's not a lot of space on the first floor. Which probably worked out wonderfully for TFW as her kids were never around her, but not that great if you want to be WITH your kids.
It's not a bad house, and it was fine for TFW and her family, but I'm surprised it sold for as high as it did with the weird layout. When I was looking for homes in the area, I found much more practical homes in the same price range.
Vanessa said... 92 There are always strings attached when a narc seemingly does something nice. It's another way to keep the kids on their toes, get them excited and then pull the rug out from under them. It'll be used, as you all said, as another responsibility to add to their never ending (on going) list of chores. It's also ammunition against their father but she can also use it as bragging rights. "See all that I buy/do for you" And also to belittle the kids for the way THEY will care for it. AND she'll make it that it was THEM who wanted it, THEY have to care for it. Wonder how many of those kids will grow up hating pets??? --------------------------------------- Vanessa, as always, spot on. I doubt any of those kids will grow up to have kids or pets of their own. I have friends who were raised in big families and they don't want kids because they feel like they've raised their siblings. I doubt it will be any different for the G kids.
Thanks for the heads up on the house. I thought it looked very homey and warm, too. Much better than the way it used to look. I checked out the price history and noticed that when the G's tried to sell it they listed, took it off and raised the price by $100,000! Needless to say it ended up selling for much less. ----------------------------------------------- That was the stupidest thing ever, and the height of arrogance. Having just purchased a home in this area, I know that home prices here are pretty consistent, and there are not many homes over $300k, and the ones that are, are GORGEOUS. There was no way the Andrews Ave house was going to sell for over $300k.
I'm pretty sure my comment didn't go through...I was just saying Mother 'Do-Little' is an appropriate moniker for TFW!
She is trying to deflect from the animal abuse rumors.
Also, Ally, I am sorry you feel you need a break. I will also miss your posts and feel you were unfairly treated when giving an opinion on a discussion board! Please come back, and Happy Holidays if you continue to read here ;)
That was the stupidest thing ever, and the height of arrogance. Having just purchased a home in this area, I know that home prices here are pretty consistent, and there are not many homes over $300k, and the ones that are, are GORGEOUS. There was no way the Andrews Ave house was going to sell for over $300k. ****** Congratulations! Kate (and maybe Jon) thought that the "Jon and Kate + 8" house would be such a huge draw that people would be willing to pay way over market price. Wow, where to start. If I were forced to buy that house because it was the only one on the market in a 20-miles radius, I'd do so reluctantly and immediately arrange for a priest to come and sprinkle copious amounts of holy water all around. OK, I'm kidding, but just barely. When DH and I were looking at houses where we currently live, the homes are mostly previously owned and some 30-40 years old. Not much in the way of virgin farmland to build new homes like where Kate lives in PA. Anyway, I could tell within seconds if the house "felt" hinky, and that Andrews Ave. home would give me the willies!
(ps.. not for nothin' and I hope I'm not going to upset anyone, but getting any pet, well, besides a fish, for a child, for Christmas or Hunnukah is just a bad idea. Pick another time when it's not a present, because you don't unwrap it, play while ensorcelled, then lose interest. A coworker of DH's is picking up a Cavachon puppy for his son for Hannukah and to make matters worse, DH is pretty sure it's from a puppy mill, which I view the same as a pet store) ******************************* I volunteer with a cat rescue and we "sell out" of kittens every holiday season. I couldn't disagree more that getting a pet for a child for Christmas or Hanukkah is inherently a bad idea. We have never had a kitten returned because the thrill of the gift wore off nor has there every been any evidence that kittens adopted as holiday gifts for children are any less loved and cared for than our other adopted pets. It's about whether the family has planned for the pet, is ready for the long term commitment, etc., not about whether the pet is a "gift" to a child. (We do not adopt out kittens as surprise gifts for adults.)
It's not a bad house, and it was fine for TFW and her family, but I'm surprised it sold for as high as it did with the weird layout. When I was looking for homes in the area, I found much more practical homes in the same price range. ****** I wrote the same thing yesterday, in support of the Gosselins moving into a bigger home. The Andrews Ave home looks better on paper than in person. The first floor design was horrendously horrendous!
Sooooo predictable! CAGED animal. Check. Blog about the animal. Check. Picture of herself with insane eyes and shiney plastic forehead. Check. Bribe for kids. Check. New chore for kids. Check. New nickname for herself. Check. Poor bird.
BTW, how much does a parrot like that cost? I thought she was piecing and patching.
How do we really know she purchased this bird? She post a picture of the bird on her shoulder that she could have taken in the pet store. Why not post pictures of the kids looking at the bird or holding the bird? I think this is her attempt at deflection. This is her typical M.O.
TLC stinks...yes CAGED animal. What is her self pity cry? "Everyone eventually leaves me." Cage this bird for 20 or so years and it will never leave her. We only cage humans for that long when they've murdered someone.
I'm getting to upset, I don't like people putting animals of any kind in cages for their own personal entertainment. Add to that in this particular case it is this control freak narcissist and I am livid. I need to back away for a bit.
Tomorrow is the 27th and I fully expect another motion for extension of time.
Crazy Cat Lady said... 135 ***** Great to hear. I still think a puppy is a really bad idea at the holidays. Cats simply are not as labor intensive. I've owned both.
Since TFW announced the parrot about 12 hours ago there really hasn't been much response on twitter. Not like it used to be. And no media rag has mentioned it either.
There are new owners with no children, last owners after Gosselins had 6. New owners have completely renovated again, tearing out all the carpets and such....doesn't even remotely look like the way it was, it is just beautiful. Owners before the Gosselins were a retired couple who were immaculate in their care of their home. He died of cancer, she unexpectedly died in an auto accident. Kate's brother's family lived in the neighborhood...that is how they got here. We have come full circle now.
Come back soon, reader! So, what's the general gestalt about keeping birds in cages? Is it something that you do when you step out of the house, or at night for bedtime? Can a cage be like a crate for a dog, in that dogs can be trained to relax in a crate like it's a den? FTR, I crate trained my dogs, but they don't stay or live in the crate. The do however, choose to go in and out at will to chill out and have some quiet time.
Tucker's Mom said... 134 Congratulations! Kate (and maybe Jon) thought that the "Jon and Kate + 8" house would be such a huge draw that people would be willing to pay way over market price. Wow, where to start. If I were forced to buy that house because it was the only one on the market in a 20-miles radius, I'd do so reluctantly and immediately arrange for a priest to come and sprinkle copious amounts of holy water all around. ------------------------------------------------
Thanks!
And the reality was no local wanted to touch that house with a ten foot pole. It only sold after the price dropped and the hoopla surrounding the house died down.
LOL at the holy water reference! It's actually a really nice neighborhood. Anyone would be lucky to live there! I just would never spend that much money on that particular house when for the same price you could buy a house that has a much better layout.
Her lawsuit with RH really comes down to can she prove he illegally stole or acquired documents. Trash can documents Kate put at the curb?
For the kid's sake, am hoping KG will withdraw her complaint. RH has clearly published docs on his web site, but most importantly, maybe these kids deserve a right to privacy at this juncture.
IMO. JH should request attorney fees paid by KG and let it go. It is up to Jon to make sure these kids have proper parenting, and for Jon to notify the Court of any problems. None of this should be discussed publicly for the kid's sake unless the Court rulings are not fair to the kids.
The house on Andrews was big enough in regards to square footage. It also was big enough, because it was what they could AFFORD. just because you have a large family doesn't entitle you to bigger and better, and expect others to help you pay for it (in her case, the kids).
as far as the bird purchase, I can't imagine an OCD person buying a bird. Birds are expensive, their cages, etc, are EXPENSIVE. Besides a piecing and patching and bills in my purse I can't pay, a truly OCD person wouldn't buy a bird just because of the MESS. I've had parakeets before, and man, the MESS,,,bird seed and feathers, and those seed catcher things don't always work....if she flips out about crumbs on the floor, she is going to go ballistic about the bird seed scattered EVERYWHERE. and where to place the bird in the house? I thought she was a germaphobe, so how in the heck could she allow a bird anywhere near her kitchen? if it's placed in the basement, the poor thing will die of boredom. Birds need lots of daily interaction. How long before the mess sends the bird back to the pet store?
Westbrooke said... 141 There are new owners with no children, last owners after Gosselins had 6. New owners have completely renovated again, tearing out all the carpets and such.. ******* So, it looks different than the Zillow listing pictures? I hope the house is being taken care of with welcoming decor and mainly, no studio lighting!
I've seen a documentary on parrots and they suffer tremendous emotional distress when neglected.
So do children. :-(
She post a picture of the bird on her shoulder that she could have taken in the pet store. Why not post pictures of the kids looking at the bird or holding the bird?
Because it's all about her, and nothing to do with those pesky kids?
I hope she doesn't move it down to the basement to be alone all day. ******************************************************************* ding ding ding! That's exactly what will happen. The dog, the kids, the bird...EVEN JON was banished to the basement at one point! Cripes, the twins couldn't even come down to THEIR kitchen that morning on CWS! Effing bitch, that's THEIR HOUSE and if you stupidly continue to fill it up with people, pets (husbands) that you don't want, be prepared for the consequences. PLUS if you don't want anyone friggen "judging" you, that anything you say/do will be critiqued DON'T PLASTER IT ALL OVER TWITTER. famewhore
Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said... 131 Kate's going to have fits when the bird starts molting. It's a mess. I hope she doesn't move it down to the basement to be alone all day. ____________________________________________________
I live in a development where the backyards butt up against the backyards of the people who live on the street behind you. The family who lives behind me have a conure. They put his cage outside on their deck sometimes, when the weather conditions are ideal. Oh. My. God. He just screeches and screeches and screeches. It is unbelievably annoying.
ITA with what everyone said about an african grey, I think that would have been a bit more ideal for a family bird. MY BIL had one for 27 years and he was a hoot! He talked up a storm and even learned how to perfectly mimic the dogs barking. He chirped quite a bit, but it wasn't overly loud or annoying. He was messy, always flinging stuff out of his cage. It drove my SIL nuts and she was always on my BIL to keep the bird's area clean. While I'm grateful Kate didn't get a horse or new puppy, this isn't much better. It's just a 53rd chore for the kids.
Judging by the posted picture of TFW she was either wearing a wig or had clip on extensions during her H&F appearance. Granted her hair is pulled back, but there is no way that it is as long, full and luxurious as it was on that TV appearance.
Also, Ally, I am sorry you feel you need a break. I will also miss your posts and feel you were unfairly treated when giving an opinion on a discussion board!
Agree. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and their choice of what to discuss. If Admin thinks something should be an off-limits topic she would say so. It seemed to me that Ally was coming from a place of concern, as most of us are.
Those who didn't like the choice of topic could have said so respectfully, and some did say so respectfully, but some did not.
Besides, there's always the choice to scroll on past and not call attention to posts you don't like.
Like many have said, this bird will be, by it's nature, messy, smelly and loud. What was she thinking? Oh probably just that SHE needed a treat, probably wanted one as a kid and was denied, one more pet, in the singular, for 8 kids to fight over. It is all ridiculous, but what else is new in Kateworld?
TFW's smile is always so fake. I don't think I've ever seen a pic of her in the last couple of years where she doesn't have a forced smile. Can't she just relax a little and really enjoy herself when taking a photo.........She thinks she's always on display.
Angie said... 147 The house on Andrews was big enough in regards to square footage. It also was big enough, because it was what they could AFFORD. just because you have a large family doesn't entitle you to bigger and better, and expect others to help you pay for it (in her case, the kids).
LOL at the holy water reference! It's actually a really nice neighborhood. Anyone would be lucky to live there! ******* And it seems as though the neighbors welcomed the Gosselins with open arms and they were turned away by Kate. The one neighbor with a blog summed it up; the neighborhood wanted to help, but their efforts were rebuffed. Jon was a social guy and Kate was a shrew (paraphrasing).
I think that the bird was for her. She's probably fighting extreme depression over everything that has happened to her lately and has the need to have something new and shiny to make her feel all better. She's thrashing to grab onto anything right now as the drain is pulling more and more. And her twitter fans don't seem to care anymore.
Did anyone notice kate's neck in the picture with the poor bird? Did you see that bone protruding out on the right with a very thin layer of fat on it? The thin layer of fat on her face? She has lost a tremendous amount of weight for her size. She is skinny. Really.
I can't believe she did this. The bog she wrote was nauseating. The store employee turned into the store manager. Shoka's brother was there. REALLY? Shoka stays there as a pet of the store owner? No one would adopt/purchase Shoka's brother? Then he has been there a long time or was with homes and they sent him back.
I remember years ago seeing a bird cage and the floor had newspapers all around to catch the mess. I couldn't believe how messy it was. My grandmother decided years and years ago to get us a bird for Christmas. My mother didn't need it because we were too young and my mother was piecing and patching working full time, us in daycare and school, and all the while being very sick with cystitis. My poor mother would be in such pain laying on the couch crying, sobbing and I remember getting cold washcloths for her face. It was very upsetting to see this. My dad flipped and screamed and cursed that she was not getting that bird for us. I couldn't imagine my mother having that added responsibility.
Recently an ad on tv has a Fake Bird that has a motion sensor and will twirp and sing when it senses movement. This is what TFWMDL should of got, instead of spending the kids money for a bird set up that could of cost over a Grand! How many classes could that of paid for the kids? That poor animal. He will not make it six months. 30 tops.
Anyone that comes in now into a pet store with cash can buy any animal they want with no problem. They should of not sold her that BIRD! She did her research? Did she find out that they mutilate their self and pluck their feathers out under stress? She is so sadistic, the cage, the self mutilation, she thrives on getting pleasure seeing humans and animals suffer.
Kate and a bird. OMG what a laugh. What is she going to do when it poops on her kitchen counter? I predict some new recipes from her. Zoro Stew, Zoro on a stick, Zoro chili, Zoro soup, Stuffed Zoro.Turchickzoro for xmas dinner with a side of sloppy depressed kids. (Sorry can't help myself)
Just what they needed...another screeching thing in that household. With a little bit of luck that bird will copy everything that comes out of Kate's mouth! I can see the bird being returned sooner or later because one of the kids developed "an allergy" humhummm.
JoyinVirginia said... 32 OT: anyone here ever tried ironing a vinyl tablecloth? It's really wrinkly! I am going to try iron on low setting with a dishcloth as pressing cloth to protect the vinyl. Any other ideas, would love to hear them. ____________________________________
Put it in the dryer and take it out while it is still hot. Then put it on the table and the wrinkles should have fallen out.
Ally, hope you're still reading here...sorry you feel badly. I've always enjoyed your posts, and was intrigued by the former G house. I went to the site, but couldn't remember the street name, so gave up. But thanks for the info. The former house, indeed the present house, has zero personality, perfect reflection of TFW. IF she obtains another extension (legal, not hair) I'll feel like kicking the island...
I think Kate is confused about Thanksgiving traditions. Usually, and in most homes, you roast a turkey for a family dinner this week. Apparently KG thinks you buy a pet bird.
I also think she bought this for herself, recent events making her 'need' something new and pretty. Guess a new car is out of her budget this time, and perhaps Skeeve is too busy to accompany her on a trip, or also not in the current budget. Twit.
What a coincidence! What are the chances of running into someone in your good-sized town with the litter mate to your dog, whose litter was in a town some miles away? Completely not happening?
The parrot thing reminds me of how overly emoting she was with the koala.
I went to TFW's website to check out the parrot. She said the parrot is almost six months old. Is this a parrot that will get significantly bigger or will it stay small?
I don't go to her website so I thought I'd check it out. Under her Fashion & Beauty and her Fitness posts, she hasn't written anything since November 2011. So I guess people aren't flocking to her for fashion, beauty and fitness advice. But I did get a laugh when I went to her Inspiration section. There is a picture of TFW, the kids and Taylor Swift and underneath was an ad for birth control info. At the bottom of her post about Zorro was an ad for Bat & Bird removal here on the Cape. Maybe I should direct them to Wernersville, PA
High Sodium Content - I know you're joking about the recipes, but the same thought crossed my mind too. It won't be hide the bunny anymore, it'll be hide the parrot. From what I've read here and elsewhere, conures do not like to be ignored and will screech loudly if they are. Light a candle for poor Zorro.
As a African Grey parrot owner, I have to say that WOS would not have done better to get a Grey. Grey's can be very sensitive and are like having a 3 year old in the house all the time. Conures aren't quite as verbal as Greys are, but conures have the most piercing screech of all parrots.
I give WOS a week before she tires of this new pet. She will tire of its screeching and of its throwing of food and shredding toys. A good parrot owner knows that is what parrots do, but we all know WOS is not a good parrot owner. And the first time that little conure grabs her skin with his sharp little beak.... we'll all hear it!
And I sure hope the pet store owner told her to feed the poor bird pellets and fresh veggies and fruit.
Well, there we go! Kate just blew the poor me has no money, piece mealing the finances to hell. Nobody will now believe the dog & pony show now. That bird sells for at Petsmart: for: $499.99 on sale right now, from $549.99. That does not include the cage and all the stuff that goes with it. That is another at least $400. So Kate has to be a show-off/I'm better than everyone else, and not thinking about what a hypocrite she really is, when crying poor. Your regular birds are not good enough, too common/regular/mediocre/mundane, to own. God, help that poor bird.
To Kates lachey slave fans:just for the record, before you call me jellus, I have 4 birds. They are 2 parakeets, one is 8 years old the other is 6. My other 2 birds are cocktiels and both are 6.
Yes, birds can be messy, yes, you have to feed them every 2-3 days, clean them at the least once a week. Perhaps the girls did not want to take care of the chickens, so Kate got them a bird instead.
I meant to say the bird wouldn't last 6 months under her watch. 30 DAYS, TOPS!
IF, and that is a big IF, kate wanted to throw away a Grand at something to make her feel better, why didn't she get Jon a gift card at the grocery store he shops and put that Grand on it to help him feed the kids when they visit him. That would of been a wonderful way to show that she cares about her kids and seeing that they are taken care off.
Oh, Hades to the NO!
Also, the other day, Matlock was coming on and I was fixing to turn it and the episode was called, The Cookie Monster. Find out that a lady named Katie, owned a cookie company. It is amazing the similarities that this Katie had with TFWMDL! So funny, the narcissism, the hatefulness. At the end, after she shouted she was going to crush her competitors in a hostile takeover, she stomped out and the camera kinda zoomed in on one man and he said , WITCH! HAHAHAHA
All this drama happened in the first 5 or 6 minutes. I have been trying to find it online on you tube for a link. But it is Matlock Season 4 Episode 24. The baker man who called her a witch had her number! hahaha
Lukebandit and everyone else: to keep birds from messing up the floor: I take out the wire, grate, and put all the birds cups on the floor, and put a seed guard around the cage. Parakeets are known to fling seeds. I line my cage floor with cheap paper towels(the ones I buy a case at Menards 2/$1 which is 30/$15). I buy seed in bulk at Pet Supplies Plus.
Greylady said... 165 As a African Grey parrot owner, I have to say that WOS would not have done better to get a Grey. Grey's can be very sensitive and are like having a 3 year old in the house all the time. Conures aren't quite as verbal as Greys are, but conures have the most piercing screech of all parrots. ****** Love your screen name! I wonder, too, if parrots are sensitive to changing people/caregivers in the home. Kate skeedattles out of town a whole lot, and from what we know from Robert's book, the "help" turns over quite a bit. I wonder if this upsets birds. I haven't approached many parrots, but when I do, it's with great caution, because I don't know what they're thinking or feeling! Another question-- can you "board" a bird? Are there many places that do this? Or, do you get in-home care or trust them to a family member or neighbor? Thanks!
I think she bought the bird to punish the kids. When TFW is feeling down, her go-to is punishing someone else. She gets enjoyment out of others' suffering.
The lawsuit isn't going her way, and her name is mud. So what does she do to cope? She gets a shrieking bird that no doubt lives near the kids bedrooms, or in their play area in the basement. They have to clean up after it and deal with it's noisiness. No doubt she did her research, research into what could harm her kids the most. TFW is sick, and I would not put it past her to buy this animal specifically to torture her kids.
ok, so those of us here who don't know anything about birds managed to get pretty alarming information in what? minutes? Either she didn't do the research, or she didn't listen to the people at the store. Or she did do the research and went ahead and bought it anyways. Just like "trying for one more"
Sara MRN (538) has a Vertu good point, as do all of you posters who have pointed put the story is just too complicated and coincidental. How do we know it isn't all just a fantasy like her fantasizing she could dance? And with that coincidental segue, the finale of Dancin With Them Thar Stars is tonight! I'm going to talk about Monday nights show, so scroll on past if you recorded the show and were waiting until Thanksgiving to watch out with your nearest and dearest. the bored couple had only been on Jimmy Kimmel, Good Morning America, commercials, etc. The dh and I watched Monday might. And he really watched, and was amazed at how good Bill Engvall.did. I told him that is what happens when you really work at it and practice! And the judges appreciated how far he had come and how hard he has worked. And the judges REALLY complimented the first season pro paired with Bill, Emma Slater. Bill thanked her too, said he feels like he has another daughter. And he thanked his wife for putting up with the craziness. Now, on to the free style dances. all very entertaining. But after jack Osborne and Cheryl did their dance, and taking to Tom and the judges, Cheryl was more emotional than i've ever seen her. I think there is something very special about jack as a person. It was really touching to see his wife, mother, sister embracing Cheryl too like one more in the family. with jack and Bill both, I feel like I am seeing more of their authentic personalities. And THAT is why I love this show, you get to see something real and true when people are really working to learn this new thing. Amber and Corbin are both so talented, it just doesn't seem as much of a struggle. Ok if you are reading from bottom up, i'm talking about Monday nights DWTS so skip if you don't want to hear about it!
Please do not go to her website and add to her visitor counts. That is the reason she posts news and photos like this there rather than twitter. The more popular her site is (visits) the more sponsors take notice.
The picture of the parrot and the narcissist will show up soon enough on the internet.
Anyone that comes in now into a pet store with cash can buy any animal they want with no problem. ****** It's all about turn around and profit. They don't give 2 hoots (sorry, can't help myself today) what happens to the pet once it's gone.
Vanessa said... 93 Ok, something BIG must be coming out with the book about some REAL animal abuse. The whole convoluted story about how she got the parrot? Play date? When a narc lies and the story is just a wee bit too long and strange? She's covering something. But you can bet this new version of the "truth" has already wiped out the REAL truth from her pea brain. ---------------------------------- I'm starting to think she went to the pet store and said "what animal makes the most annoying noise?" or "what animal makes the most mess?" and bought this particular bird to hold over and emotionally torture her kids.
Amanda, Iowa said... 164 Just what they needed...another screeching thing in that household. With a little bit of luck that bird will copy everything that comes out of Kate's mouth! ***** That bird had better "parrot back" the CORRECT order of eating its meal, or he will be in for a shreiking! "nuts, fruit, cereal, seeds...." QUIET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My opinion, she is giving up Shoka and the meeting with his "brother" is to see if they get along. She is getting a parrot to cover the guilt. All too much of a coincidence.
Parrots are not meant to be caged. They need to be socialized. That means "out" time for several hours during the day. Kate is not going to do that. When they are caged, they become bored, and a bored parrot can become a plucker. Google pictures of a plucker. She's never going to want to deal with that.
Who is going to trim its beak, clip its wings (for safely...you can't have a bird flying all over the house), and trim its nails? Is Kate going to clean the messy cage? If it's not done regularly, she'll get those nasty little flies that are similar to gnats, and they are buggers to get rid of. She absolutely has no idea what she's gotten herself into. If she wanted another pet for Christmas, why not a hamster?
She didn't think this thing through. That bird will end up in a foster home in no time. She has an active household, screaming, yelling, and that bird will pick up on that noise and try to keep up by vocalizing. The first time the bird screams when the sun rises, she'll throw a blanket over the cage where it probably will stay permanently. I hope she has coupons for bird food. She's going to have the shock of her life when she finds out how much good quality food costs.
And to think that she's piecing and patching. I guess it's just good that it's not a horse or pony.
_________________ I'm glad TWF posted a picture of only her and the bird. Leave the children out of the pictures with the bird. There is no need to contiune thrusting them in the spotlight just to post with the bird to please the public viewers. They need a break. Thanks.
Firey Topaz @FireyTopaz1 3h @Sassccha @Kateplusmy8 Yep, and her "piecing&patcing" sob story was 1 more lie. Bird+cage, etc., would easily cost around $450.
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lol! Let's triple that. She wishes it would only be $450.00. She bought the bird at a pet store. Huge mark-up. She couldn't even get the bird for that price. Cages are extremely expensive, and I would bet that she ordered a top of the line, not a mediocre cage...they can cost more than five hundred dollars. The bird will need toys (anywhere from fifteen to twenty dollars) and they can chew through them in a few days. She's shelled out some big bucks for that purchase. Piecing and patching...yeah, right.
That sounds about right, this is a set up to give up Shoka, and the reasoning will be something contrived like, "Seeing Shoka so happy with his brother....:" or maybe it will be, "having the parrot and Shoka were just too much so...." I am willing to be this is absolutely it. You happen to run into the pet store where the employee/owner, WHO yo SPEAK with just happens to own a dog from the same litter your dog came from....and you just happen to buy a parrot. Yep I'll bet the "meeting" is the start of the transfer. If this is the case I would say I am happy, no doubt Shoka will be better off and have companionship and love, but still I am so sorry today for that parrot. Breaks my heart.
i am pretty sure the first phrases she will teach the bird will run along the line of "you're beautiful" you're the best mommy ever" "jon is an ass".....etc
I'm sorry that I have to say this but everything anyone has posted about the parrot is completely wrong. TFW has purchased the only parrot on the face of the earth that will sit quietly in it's cage, never make a mess, speak only when spoken to AND only screech with delight when he see TFW coming near with a shinny new toy or his food.
This poor parrot may be pining for the fjords in no time flat!
Joy, I enjoy watching Jack, too. Almost inexplicably, I was really into watching The Osbournes. I don't know if there is a more dysfunctional family on tv! But their dysfunction had nothing to do with disrespect or not loving one another dearly, as we saw with Kate's shows. The O's desperately love each other and while Jack and Kelly showed major signs of drug and entitlement problems, somehow, they've turned into exceptional adults who are clearly talented. I remember watching a special that Jack did shortly after their reality tv show ended. Jack had become an addict, was fat, out of shape and headed for trouble when he got his act together. Jack's show was about him taking on extremely difficult physical challenges around the globe, and ended with him climbing El Capitan, so he's no stranger to taking on challenges. Anyway, there's something endearing about this addiction-addled family and then there's Jon and Kate, who burst onto the scene as rather milquetoast Christians and guess who I like a whole lot more? Yes, give me Ozzie and his brood any day.
Parrots are sensitive to people coming in and out of their lives. Our 2nd grey was purchased form another family. I am the one that went and picked her up and brought her home. She wouldn't have anything to do with me for a year! My husband is her very favorite person, even though I do all the husbandry for the parrots. He chit chats with her and gets all her adoration.
Its very hard to find someone to care for the birds when you want to go away. We are lucky that our son lives close enough that he can come over and visit with them, clean cages, feed then, etc if we are only gone for a long weekend. If we are gone for a longer period of time, or if he is gone as well, we do have to board them. We are lucky to have a quality boarding place fairly close to us. There are not many. And you can't just ask a neighbor to come in and feed them while you are gone like you can a cat.
Parrots are a big commitment.I'm not sure I would choose the same path if I were to do it again. Even though I have loved the past 12 years with my Grey girlies.
WOS has no clue what she is getting in to. Conure beaks are sharp and they hurt! I'd rather be bit by my Greys than a conure and their beaks are huge in comparison.
I guarantee if the bird doesn't work out, she'll never say a thing about it. I also believe it's being kept in the basement family room area; I can't see her having the mess on the immaculate main level or allowing it anywhere near the kitchen. (But since she's basically lost her marbles, who knows.)
Again I say it's another ploy to pull her kids away from Jon.
Yes, I agree. Her hair looks super thin. I believe she does not eat enough protein to keep it more in a healthier state. I believe that about the kids. The meatloaf for example. She makes a meatloaf with 2 pounds of meat and has half of it left over which would leave the kids with 2 oz. of meat. For growing kids? For growing boys, working like mules taking care of the chickens? I am praying she goes forward to deposition. She deserves it.
Instead of spending $500 on a bird, plus another $400-$600 on a cage & stuff for this poor bird, Kate could have made a donation to help those people who were/are in the recent disasters. Infact today a lot of the TV stations across the US are having a fund raiser. This Kate would have looked real good for you, to donate the cost of the bird $1000(cage , stuff, bird) to the disaster relief. It would show that even a person who is on a tight budget can give a little. This would have fit in Kates: I've changed book. But no, Kate has to bring another poor unfortunate creature into that household, and not a parakeet, which would have been $18, cage & stuff another $40, but an expensive bird, just to show off.
I find it interesting and amusing that the sheeple also follow the LeAnn Rimes/Eddie Cibrian/Brandi Glanville drama. Brandi is no angel but LeAnn Rimes is guilty as sin for cruelly using her stepsons to hurt and taunt Brandi. LeAnn, like TFW, thinks everyone should stop being mean to her and calls herself an anti-bullying advocate, but does not practice what she preaches. I just came across this article from August. Sheesh, who does she remind you of? http://www.fishwrapper.com/post/2013/08/12/leann-rimes-bully-t-shirt-aaron-f-brandi-glanville-concert/
I still snicker when I think about how LeAnn tried to SLAPP the two fans who released her nasty voicemail. She had NO case and dropped that thing like a lead weight. Our justice system isn't perfect, but I greatly appreciate the fact that the judges in this country have consistently shown zero tolerance for people who force themselves into the public eye, then try to stifle free speech.
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And digging through the neighbor's trash, chasing cars down the road, and eating possums!
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Thanksgiving cooking plan:
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MMMM, your dinner sounds delicious :)
My family will be gathering at my elderly parents' home this year, with each family member/group bringing something for the meal. My contributions this year will be the yams, and pumpkin pie. I will confess that I am buying ready made yams from Trader Joe's - but they are so delicious and better than I could make anyway! However, I am making the pumpkin pie myself lol.
That slow cooker cheesecake sounds interesting. I'm off to google some recipes!
Why does everyone think it's a horse?? Kate is to stingy to buy and maintain a horse. Besides I think the kids ( boys) are on overload with chores. It has to be a very small dog or cat, though I lean more towards dog because of damage control with the lawsuit.
Formerly Duped, I've had UTI' s before and have always had meds for them. I think water, juice, yogurt (???) might be good for prevention but once you have the infection I don't know. Hope you feel better!!
For the first time I'm not making a whole turkey. I ordered a breast with bone from Whole Foods and will see how that works out. I'm also going to make something in the slow cooker, maybe a roast? Knowing me I'll probably still be thinking about it on Friday . LOL
Sherry Baby said... 181
Ouch! What about cranberry yogurt? Wouldn't that offer double protection? ;-) Or Oikos Greek? You'd have Stamos appearing in your bathroom and you'd forget about the infection.
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OMG!!!! You just made me snort coffee! roflmbo ....... I'm sorry, the image is making me giggle all over again.
John Stamos is a "breathtakingly beautiful" man. I'm sure he has many faults, but oh boy, is he easy on the eyes.
If TFW got an animal, it has to be a low maintenance one. I'm guessing kitten based on ease of care. Just feed, water, and scoop out the cat litter. A hamster/gerbil requires a lot of cleaning up after. And there's now way TFW would buy a horse, as it's a money pit.
Either that or a fish / hermit crab. Something small and low maintenance.
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@Kateplusmy8 You have to check out GoPro video cams. It could record all that personality that goes on in your house
Which one of Kate's multiple personalities would she want to record?
I think the Milo speculation is very interesting. The concept that it could be a hired company with a team working on the account would explain a lot. Then when Milo goes on twitter silence, we can assume it's because TFMJG had not paid the bill for services rendered!
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Sherry Baby said... 181
Ouch! What about cranberry yogurt? Wouldn't that offer double protection? ;-) Or Oikos Greek? You'd have Stamos appearing in your bathroom and you'd forget about the infection.
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OMG!!!! You just made me snort coffee! roflmbo ....... I'm sorry, the image is making me giggle all over again.
John Stamos is a "breathtakingly beautiful" man. I'm sure he has many faults, but oh boy, is he easy on the eyes.
Lol lol lol, but yeah, seeing John Stamos will cure anything!!!
BTW whenever I was pregnant I was advised by my midwives to use natural yoghurt dipped tampons against yeast infections, feels weird but works like a charm! Tip: warm up the yoghurt when fresh out of fridge before use!
Kate is stingy if there's nothing in it for her. I wonder how many thousands of dollars she has and will continue to throw away with this lawsuit, which I believe was to score her more interviews for her cookbook.
Why else would Kate have timed it so late in the game, years after the fact?
If there's another incarnation in the cards for Katie, she'll do it.
I love all the Thanksgiving recipes and suggestions.
As to the new addition my guess is a turtle. Low maintenance and fairly inexpensive I think.
Lol lol lol, but yeah, seeing John Stamos will cure anything!!!
BTW whenever I was pregnant I was advised by my midwives to use natural yoghurt dipped tampons against yeast infections, feels weird but works like a charm! Tip: warm up the yoghurt when fresh out of fridge before use!
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I didn't use tampons dipped in yogurt and I didn't have any yeast infections during my pregnancies. Maybe you wouldn't have had any yeast infections even if you didn't use yogurt dipped tampons.
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BTW whenever I was pregnant I was advised by my midwives to use natural yoghurt dipped tampons against yeast infections, feels weird but works like a charm! Tip: warm up the yoghurt when fresh out of fridge before use!
I remember reading somewhere that Mark Steines left his wife and I went to wiki to see if anything was there.
He married former Entertainment Tonight correspondent and Miss America 1993 Leanza Cornett on the island of Kauai on July 22, 1995. They have two sons, Kai Harper and Avery James ("AJ"). In January 2013 Steines and Cornett officially announced that they will seek a divorce after 17 years of marriage.
He also went to college on a football scholarship and graduated with a B.A. in radio and television.
See kate, if you didn't want to go back into nursing, why didn't you enroll into college and get your Associates or Bachelors in Radio and Television and take voice and acting classes. You had the money to hire good people to take care of things while you were gone. They could of been taken to sports, gymnastics, library, friends, scouts. My middle son, made all-stars in baseball when he was 10 and I drove him for a week and stayed there and waited till it was over with for 2 hours at least. I took books, newspapers. I added over 400 miles on the odometer that week. Well worth it.
But, you decided to take the lazy road and exploit your ATM's.
lukebandit,
Mark went to college with me! We were both in the Public Relations/Communications program at the University of Northern Iowa. A little trivia: a few years after we both graduated, the Julia Roberts film "Sleeping With the Enemy" was filmed in part on our campus. Mark worked for a local TV station then as a cameraman, and we were able to use some of their equipment on a project we did together his senior year. He also filled in as a sportscaster and I think also as a weatherman when needed. He was a hard worker, an all-around great guy, and he's far too good for the likes of TFW. You could tell even back then that he was going places, and he was never afraid to put in the hard work to get there.
Please, dear God, don't let TFW get her claws into him. He is way too nice for the likes of her. She does not deserve him.
Thanks, gals! You're real pals! I don't have a UTI now but am prone to them. Yes, my dr used to give me an a/b to use if I felt symptoms as I've had so many and know what it is. Or some drs give you a low dose to take before and after sex. Now they aren't doing that I guess b/c of the resistance as someone mentioned. I was just wondering if anyone else who was prone to them had a sure-fire method of prevention. I'm not giving up - - - lol TMI ,I know! It is a factor for many women. Thanks for the many suggestions.
I just got this in email. It's a Youtube video, the rescue of a young humpback whale and how happy it was to be free. It's very uplifting:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6pKX3whms8
Or some drs give you a low dose to take before and after sex. Now they aren't doing that I guess b/c of the resistance as someone mentioned. I was just wondering if anyone else who was prone to them had a sure-fire method of prevention. I'm not giving up - - - lol TMI ,I know! It is a factor for many women. Thanks for the many suggestions.
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Pee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! after sex. Never, ever don't pee after sex.
Cotton undies.
Some meds leave you prone, too.
TFW is doing way too much deflecting with this "new addition". She's trying to distract the sheep from something. Let's see, her reply to Robert's MTD is coming up in a couple days (Wednesday, wasn't it?). I suspect she's going to drop the charges against him that day. Who wants to bet she reveals her new addition that day and posts loads of pictures of whatever it is snuggling with the kids. Keep the sheep focused on her new puppy or kitten or whatever and not the fact that her lawsuit failed.
I don't watch a lot of the Food Network these days, but have it on today while doing Thanksgiving prep. Watching a rerun of the Pioneer Woman do her Thanksgiving dinner on the ranch. I can take her in small doses, but I am struck by how authentic she is. Sorry TFW, if this is a real person on tv looks like, you have miles and and miles to go - you and your toxic personality could never pull off a cooking show.
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lukebandit,
Mark went to college with me! We were both in the Public Relations/Communications program at the University of Northern Iowa.
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Very cool!
This is exactly what Kate could have done. She's got the money and the time and could have been on her way to a life-long earnings potential degree in the field she proclaims to love.
The difference is, she loves yakyakyaking about Kate and has no academic bone in her body. She thinks she so endlessly interesting that everyone is going to want to hear the latest minutiae about her and her average kids forever.
Not so.
Plus, what do they do when not filming? Totally average stuff. No sports, no all-stars games, no nothing.
Legos? puleez.
Stuffed animals and dolls? Yawn.
I'm of course hoping that if the "addition" is an animal, it's totally low maintenance, like a turtle. I'm hoping it's not a small dog or cat. Shoka's prey instinct is off the charts and the compound is not an appropriate home as long as Shoka is there.
For Thanksgiving I'm doing turkey, stuffing (Pepperidge Farm), butternut squash, green bean casserole (this will be my first time trying it. I found a recipe from Paula Dean that sounds good), sauteed brussel sprouts with garlic, shallots, and either pancetta or roasted proscuito sprinkled on top, mashed potatoes, homemade gravy, cranberry sauce (Ocean Spray in the can 'cause that's what everyone likes) and rolls. Younger daughter is bringing an apple, a pumpkin and a pecan pie. I'll be making homemade whipped cream to go on top. I just made myself hungry.
Tuckers Mom (18)
ABSOLUTELY.
It sounds crass, but it works. I've never had a UTI and I've been married for nearly 20 years. (just make sure you are in the bathroom when you do.) ;-)
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You menu sounds wonderful. For the brussel sprouts, if you're using proscuitto, try roasting it in the oven to crisp it up. This can be done a day or more ahead of time, and stored in an air-tight container.
Place parchment or foil on a baking sheet.
Preheat oven to 425 and place single-layered proscuitto on pan. Roast for 5-6 minutes until crispy.
Allow to cool and crumble.
The salt compliments the sprouts to nicely!
Yes, definitely- drink a glass of water too! lol Berks.
It sounds crass, but it works. I've never had a UTI and I've been married for nearly 20 years. (just make sure you are in the bathroom when you do.) ;-)
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When you pee, or when you have sex? I'm confused...
Anyone want some interesting Gosselin news...check out 2190 Andrews Avenue, Elizabethtown, PA on Zillow! The house just sold again on 9/13/13...tons of news pics...see what the new owners did to the house!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2511646/Kim-Kardashian-eBays-old-clothes-help-Philippines-typhoon-victims--donates-just-10-proceeds-charity.html
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Just as much of a famewhore as our sweet tfw.
Anyone want some interesting Gosselin news...check out 2190 Andrews Avenue, Elizabethtown, PA on Zillow!
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Try searching Andrew Avenue. It might not come up as Andrews.
Ally: Kate's old home is very nice and appears to have had lots of room. There were more than enough bedrooms for all 8 kids. The kitchen is big. I really don't know why Kate moved. Besides having what looks like a nice neighborhood, and probably lots of kids to play with, a very normal house. OH! what am I saying! Kate does not accept or like or love normal/mediocre/mundane/regular anything. It has to be bigger, isolated, not near any neighbors, or shopping. Who knows what goes on in that house. Jon was right. The kids go to expensive school and they are isolated from the outside world. The kids get entitled etc and they don't have hardly any friends. Cause, most live too far away and Kate being anal, Kate picks the friends, for the kids. And uses the excuse of they live too far away, for kids time, kid activities and visiting anyone. Very sad. Hope Jon is filling the void.
OT: anyone here ever tried ironing a vinyl tablecloth? It's really wrinkly! I am going to try iron on low setting with a dishcloth as pressing cloth to protect the vinyl. Any other ideas, would love to hear them.
Just looked up Kate's faker score on Status People. She has 24% of her followers as fake, 51% inactive and 25% good. As opposed to my scores which have 1% fake followers, 36% inactive and 63 % of my followers are good. I've been on Twitter since 2007 so my inactive numbers don't surprise me. A lot of people sign up for Twitter and don't keep it up.
Nomination for worst appetizer ever: yogurt dipped tampons! It might be an interesting name for an alt rock band, however.
The Thanksgiving food talk interlaced with the *manual* yogurt tampons (shudder) is giving me the gags. Gross.
I'm watching last night's episode of The Good Wife and it resonates with Kate's drama re: defamation and using social bots.
Had to explain to DH the concept of bots and how they're used to increase followers and social media presence online.
Funny that Robert posted about the same thing.
You can google anything! If anyone ever needs to know, you can get wrinkles out of a vinyl tablecloth by putting the tablecloth and a damp towel in the dryer for five to ten minutes on high setting, then take out as soon as time is up, put warm tablecloth on table and it will lay flat. It works!
Now on to cleaning off kitchen counters, and putting out items to get ready for Thursday.
Ally said... 28
Anyone want some interesting Gosselin news...check out 2190 Andrews Avenue, Elizabethtown, PA on Zillow! The house just sold again on 9/13/13...tons of news pics...see what the new owners did to the house!
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I don't see anything interesting. Could you just tell us what it is instead so I don't feel like I'm playing a guessing game with Kate. ;)
I'm sorry but if you are constantly tweeting about how busy busy busy you are with never-ending to-do lists, Inspector gadget being screamed at over chores, 8! kids, a dog, and fish, why in the hell would you bring something else into the mix. She has no right to complain anymore about how busy she is.
JoyinVirginia said... 37
You can google anything! If anyone ever needs to know, you can get wrinkles out of a vinyl tablecloth by putting the tablecloth and a damp towel in the dryer for five to ten minutes on high setting, then take out as soon as time is up, put warm tablecloth on table and it will lay flat. It works!
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Oooh that is good to know! Thanks!
I still don't understand why they ever left that house on Andrews. It was plenty big enough. The bigger, bigger, bigger motto that Kate has is biting her right square in the ass.
They left the Andrews house because she needed more privacy for the constant filming. The neighbors in the old 'hood were getting increasingly less happy with the night shoots, the klieg lights and the disregard for THEIR comfort. She wanted to turn the house into a set, so she moved her family away from view. It was always about filming.
I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to learn that TFW's 'surprise' was a new freezer, or dishwasher. They have legs, right? Otherwise, I join the others who are hoping against hope that IF the surprise is a living thing, it is another fish.
Ally, thanks for sharing! That house is a lot bigger than I thought - 3,446 square feet, 5 bedrooms. It's very spacious.
http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/2190-Andrew-Ave-Elizabethtown-PA-17022/9775798_zpid/
Anyone want some interesting Gosselin news...check out 2190 Andrews Avenue, Elizabethtown, PA on Zillow! The house just sold again on 9/13/13...tons of news pics...see what the new owners did to the house!
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I don't see anything interesting. Could you just tell us what it is instead so I don't feel like I'm playing a guessing game with Kate. ;)
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I didn't see anything new other than that the walls were painted different colors and it looked very nice.
The kids go to expensive school and they are isolated from the outside world. The kids get entitled etc and they don't have hardly any friends.
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The kids are in school five days a week, seven hours a day. How is that being isolated from the outside world, and unless one is there, how can it be said that they have hardly any friends?
I didn't see anything new other than that the walls were painted different colors and it looked very nice.
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The peninsula cabinets were taken out in the kitchen and that makes a big difference. It would drive me nuts to have to peer underneath them all the time.
I would have replaced them with glass fronted, shorter cabinets.
I think the Etown has was too small for them. It had enough bedrooms, but the first floor layout was gawdawful.
That small living area in front was useless for such a big family and the kitchen didn't have enough counter space or room for the appliances needed.
I think they could have added on, but I too would say "screw that" and move if possible.
I don't think Kate needed that compound, but a bigger, more open house with room to spread out? Sure.
I stumbled upon the house pics and thought the house seemed much homier than when Kate lived there. They ripped out some of the kitchen cabinets to open up the kitchen and the children's bedrooms looked inviting for young children. Plus they painted the front and I thought the black shutters made a great contrast on the brick. All I meant was there was a nice homey feel and a well cared for home. I thought it looked beautiful. I thought people might be interested in seeing the new pictures. That's all. I resent that you tell me I am playing childish guessing games like Kate. I specifically told you there were new pics of the house to see. They did some minor remodeling and I thought the home looked really great. That's all.
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The house looks FAR better than when kate and Jon owned it.
It's warm and homey with color!
Other than the TLC sanctioned studio photos on drab walls, the house was practically sterile.
The compound is sterile to me. Just blah. No warmth or personality.
Two things I noticed in the old house were, the piano is still in the living room and the island is missing from the kitchen,
Ally, thanks for sharing! That house is a lot bigger than I thought - 3,446 square feet, 5 bedrooms. It's very spacious.
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There is no way that the house is that many square feet, unless they are counting attic bedrooms and a finished basement, which, in this area is not counted when placing a home on the market for sale. The only areas included in square footage is the main floor and the second floor.
I resent that you tell me I am playing childish guessing games like Kate. I specifically told you there were new pics of the house to see. They did some minor remodeling and I thought the home looked really great. That's all.
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I apologize for what sounded like a flippant remark. My only excuse is between doing some multitasking (cleaning my oven changing bed linen) and reading off and on, I thought I saw something you said that you didn't say at all. Again, I apologize.
I have had a rough few days here and am going to take a break. I have more than my own share of stress and difficulties at the moment and some posts have gotten a little too intense for me. My intentions have only ever been pure and with the best of interests. I don't know if it was a sheeple drive by, but questioning my profession and my ability to formulate my own opinions was pretty nasty. I would never diagnose anyone via television and tabloids, it was a thought...that's all. I tend to be overly sensitive and I know this. So I will take a break for a while and hope everyone has a nice holiday season and hope to come back refreshed in the new year.
Kate got a conure. She has absolutely no clue how to care for a parrot. Conures are wonderful, but they are also among the noisiest of parrots. They don't shriek with pleasure or glee. They scream whenever they feel like it. This is not going to sit well with her. Unless she got one of the very few vocal conures, she's not going to have that bird more than a few months. If she wanted a bird, an African Grey, a Jardine, a Goffin, or a little parrotlet would have been a much better choice.
Wait until the first time it bites her, and Kate, don't put that bird on your bare neck. You don't know the bird, and they are unpredictable.
Well well the family Christmas gift; a parrot named Zorro. How to save $$$$$ at Christmas buy one parrot as a family gift?!?!. Notice the pic with bird on Kate's shoulder, no kids, but forehead really shiny. Guess the other gift was Botox for Kate.
Virginia Pen Mom said...
Ally, thanks for sharing! That house is a lot bigger than I thought - 3,446 square feet, 5 bedrooms. It's very spacious.
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There is no way that the house is that many square feet, unless they are counting attic bedrooms and a finished basement, which, in this area is not counted when placing a home on the market for sale. The only areas included in square footage is the main floor and the second floor.
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You're right, PA Dutch. Looks like Zillow had a typo to the tune of 2,000 square feet! Trulia lists it as 1,494 square feet. I was wondering where they hid all that space in that house!
Kate tweets and here comes the pesky author!! She just doesn't give up, does she? lol!!
Nicole Gould @nicolergould 6m
@Kateplusmy8 have you been able to start reading Kate? :)
"They all kissed him goodbye as we placed him into his little travel case we bought for him."
LOL, I think she means "cage." Kate's so non-maternal, I picture her packing him up in a suitcase.
I sure hope Shoka doesn't get a hold of that little bird.
I too have thought about getting a bird like that, but with a Lab that has a strong prey instinct, there's no way I'd ever chance it.
A Mom said... 55
Well well the family Christmas gift; a parrot named Zorro. How to save $$$$$ at Christmas buy one parrot as a family gift?!?!. Notice the pic with bird on Kate's shoulder, no kids, but forehead really shiny. Guess the other gift was Botox for Kate.
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All I noticed was the big teeth. Again.
Anyway, now the fans can go superfuncrazy over the fact she bought...a bird. See kids...daddy doesn't have one of these!!!
Oh dear God, I am so upset to hear she has brought another living creature into that home. I pray I am wrong, but I just imagine a tortured existence for that dear bird. Plus as an animal lover I abhor the very idea of keeping a parrot inside a house. This actually makes me ill.
All of the yelling and screaming, the competition between the children....oh this is not good.
My mom emailed our whole family yesterday giving birthday wishes to our childhood pet, an African Grey, who turned 37. He currently is living with my sister and he is a talker!
Birds are messy though; poor kids one more chore to do.
A parrot? Does she ever do any research?
Ok stupid question. What a mess.
Poor parrot.
She better hope that Shoka and the bird don't bond. No, I'm not joking.
Kate is a liar who lies. It's such a tiny thing, but maybe indicative of her thinking. Or maybe just petty. She feeds the bird organic Cheerios. There is no such thing. Cheerios are absolutely not organic. Does she just throw " organic" in front of every food she writes that they eat? There are o -shaped cereals that are organic, but they are different brands. It's insulting that she just makes up her truth.
Also, she needs Mady to edit her. New York Times best selling author twice neglected to use apostrophes for possession.
Ally, you have been taking some beatings here and it has never been deserved. I have always enjoyed your posts. Have yourself wonderful holidays and I do hope you come back. I would miss you.
@Tucker's Mom, that's right, the dog that kills and eats groundhogs too. Omg, that poor bird. There are so many parrot rescue groups now in this country, for neglected, abused and abandoned parrots. Mark my words if this poor bird survives that mad house, it won't be staying long.
She is insane.
I just read the blog. Kate, whatever you do, don't let the kids walk around with the bird on their shoulder. Please. The bird doesn't know you or the kids, and if something spooks him, he will bite. At one time in my past life (a long time ago), I trained parrots. My hands and arms have the scars to prove it. A couple bites resulted in stitches.
Conures are not good talkers. If you wanted a bird with a vocabulary, a Grey would have been so much better. You can actually have conversations with them, and the kids would have so much fun teaching the bird to sing and talk. I've actually had arguments with mine and I think, "why am I having a discussion with a bird?" Last night he told me that the "turkey wasn't cooked." I have no idea where that came from. He also scolded me this morning because I forgot to turn off the light in his room last night.
And Kate, no scented candles or Febreeze anywhere in the house, and cooking with teflon can be toxic. Geez, I hope she doesn't do anything stupid with that bird.
She is feeding the bird cheerios? Did she buy him any seed or fruit? God she is an idiot. She should not be allowed around animals.
I've actually had arguments with mine and I think, "why am I having a discussion with a bird?" Last night he told me that the "turkey wasn't cooked." I have no idea where that came from. He also scolded me this morning because I forgot to turn off the light in his room last night.
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How delightful! That is so cool!
Now with dogs you actually have to make a goofy voice and speak for them, so essentially, you're on both sides of the conversation.
She thought 2 dogs was high maintenance? LOL, what a maroon!
Tucker's Mom...Thanks for the info re: proscuitto.
Ally...Hope you come back after your break. I enjoy your posts.
I can't imagine a bird in TFW's house. Birds are messy.
Oh great, another job, or two, on the chore chart. Birds are messy, cages are not fun to clean. Wonder if she asked the kids, or just thought this one up on her own. Hope she, the parrot, and Skoka enjoy T-day together. First time it nips her there will be shrieking all around. Idiot.
Birds are messy though; poor kids one more chore to do.
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Birds are very messy. Wait until she sees how much seed and veggies land on the floor. I hope the housekeeper doesn't mind cleaning it up. Seed catchers do not do the job. I thought she was piecing and patching. A conure might run around $500 from a petshop, and a good cage can cost about $600 - $800, and with toys and accessories, she has well over a thousand dollars spent there.
While looking at the picture of the bird on Kate's shoulder, my first thought was "wouldn't it be funny if the bird pooped"!!
I really hoped she did her research about the care of a bird. I wonder which one of the boys will be charged with bird cage duty.
So now she has a new title "Mommy Doolittle"? I like what someone tweeted on twitter:
Charlotte Brown @mycharlotte5244 28m
@Kateplusmy8 Oh Kate, we have been calling you Mama DO LITTLE for a long time now. Get a job.
Concerns for the bird are real, and may deflect us, but won't change anything in court.
There are so many parrot rescue groups now in this country, for neglected, abused and abandoned parrots. Mark my words if this poor bird survives that mad house, it won't be staying long.
She is insane.
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You're right, reader. I have a few rescues right now waiting to be adopted. I don't have good feelings about that bird. Conures scream. She's not going to put up with that.
Kate, in the saga of Zorro, first says that she noticed him perched on the shoulder of a store employee. Then this employee turns into the store manager.
Then to top it off, she just now learns that the store manager has Shoka's brother!! I didn't even know Shoka had a brother. And now they are planning a play date so that he can have a reunion with his long-lost brother.
Haven't they been going to this pet store for awhile? Is this the same store that they filmed an episode in when they first got Shoka back? And just now she finds out that the store manager has Shoka's brother? Yeah right.
Oh what fun! With 1 dog, almost 50 chickens, 2 fish and now a parrot, named Zorro…. Go ahead and call me “Mommy Doolittle!!!!”
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No Kate, you abusive witch. Mommy Doeslittle is more like it.
Poor animals, all of them.
So she's going to have that bird until she's around 70 years old or so? Fascinating. I hope it knows how to help her.
Sleepless In Seattle said... 67
''........Geez, I hope she doesn't do anything stupid with that bird.''
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Too late. She's already done the most stupid thing by buying it and bringing it home! My mind refuses to allow me to think of all the things that can go wrong with yet another stupid thing that WOS has done!
OMG, A PARROT! Poor bird.
Ally, I'm sorry I didn't say something before but don't feel bad about comments that sometimes are just downright nasty. I read your comments and I agree with many things that you said.
Also Kate's fans come here to be mean and disruptive because really this is one of the last blogs that call out Kate's bullshit! They would love to get rid of all of us here.
When you feel better I hope you return and I wish you and your love ones a Happy Thanksgiving.
Lalalalala said... 65
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Ditto.
Cleaning out the bird cage?...sigh...just another chore to add to the kids list of plenty after dinner.
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I just don't see TFW as being a bird person as friends who have birds say that they can be quite messy. I hope she proves me wrong. Are birds a new status symbol and isn't it a coincidence that the pet store employee happens to have Shoka's brother. Yeah, I believe that TFW is going to set up a play date.
Did any of you see the Nature program that was on PBS last week called Parrot Confidential? It was a documentary about the thousands of parrots in need of rescue and about how they really do not make a good pet for a lot of people.
http://www.pbs.org/wnet/nature/episodes/parrot-confidential/parrot-confidential/8496/
It was a very good program but very sad.
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Cleaning out the bird cage?...sigh...just another chore to add to the kids list of plenty after dinner.
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The kids can rip out pages of her unsold cookbooks and line the bottom of the cage with them. There's a 30-year supply right there.
The novelty, like everything else she brings into that home, will soon wear off. That poor bird will end up be nothing but an annoyance to her for its screeching and the kids fighting over it. Shoka will instinctively see it as prey, so he'll be constantly scolded and punished. It's all so very, very wrong.
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Kate is a twit said... 77 - And just now she finds out that the store manager has Shoka's brother? Yeah right.
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Exactly what I thought. And if true, I can't believe the store manager would allow her to take that bird home. Once again, something stinks with her story and it ain't Zorro.
Ugh. I apologize to those with birds but I hate the idea of a bird in a cage. Why is she taking on the responsibility of yet another living thing? She has gone on and on about how hard it is to manage all this, how does it make any sense to just make the job all the HARDER and take on even more?
Ally said... 53
please don't go. a lot of us don't feel welcomed here sometimes.
Dang, half my posts never come through. But, I like reading the other topics on here about people and their lives, recipes, animals, their jobs and so on...
I like your post and ex nurse too. I really believe it was KG arguing with you. Covering up the truth. No one else would have that deep interest in trying to discourage you. Stay A..Happy Holidays
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Kate, me oh my..take the bird back., Please..return the bird asap.
Mistake, huge big mistake. My neighbor has one and it demands constant attention that YOU can't give when your kids are at school or with their father. These birds do not tolerate being alone. They are loud.
Huge mistake Kate, huge. You will lose patience fast. And it will bite the kids and you. Just a matter of time, and it hurts. Do not hurt the bird. It can not take a stressful environment.
Who talked you into this?
Your kids can get sick if the cage is not cleaned the right way. You are a nurse? I can't believe it. I watch my neighbor spend hours washing that cage and the mess with a garden hose he has to use is too much!
What on earth have you done?
A Friend
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zf-33LDTuAA
This a quick video from an exotic bird specialist. A few quick highlights:
I am going to tell you which parrots are the most popular with people. But first, and more importantly, I am going to discuss with you which people parrots like the best.
The first thing is: parrots like people that are calm, and sedate, and talk softly. They like that a lot. If you are a quick mover, if you are fast, if you are loud, then generally, you are not going to be a good bird owner. The second thing that I have noticed is that people that have really good relationships with their birds are basically over average intelligence, a little eccentric, very compassionate, and passionate about their hobbies; birds being one of them. So if you possess those traits, the chances are that parrots are going to like you.
The first time that poor bird screeches when she's trying to sleep late in the morning there will be hell to pay.
Why is she taking on the responsibility of yet another living thing?
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There are always strings attached when a narc seemingly does something nice. It's another way to keep the kids on their toes, get them excited and then pull the rug out from under them. It'll be used, as you all said, as another responsibility to add to their never ending (on going) list of chores. It's also ammunition against their father but she can also use it as bragging rights. "See all that I buy/do for you" And also to belittle the kids for the way THEY will care for it. AND she'll make it that it was THEM who wanted it, THEY have to care for it. Wonder how many of those kids will grow up hating pets???
Ok, something BIG must be coming out with the book about some REAL animal abuse. The whole convoluted story about how she got the parrot? Play date? When a narc lies and the story is just a wee bit too long and strange? She's covering something. But you can bet this new version of the "truth" has already wiped out the REAL truth from her pea brain.
She is feeding the bird cheerios?
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Well for sure!! She got a s%$#&load on sale with her cue-pons!!
She laments and goes on and on about having to feed sooooo many kids, and then, sure enough, brings in another "mouth" to feed. You will never understand the mind of a narcissist. NEVER
All of the yelling and screaming, the competition between the children....oh this is not good.
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You got it reader! And that's what narcs LIVE for. They create the chaos and then will freak out about it. They can't help themselves.
On to the next shiny bobble.
And again, it's EIGHT kids that she's effing up, a dog and now a parrot. It's like a game, how many victims can I leave in my wake. She's run out of human beings to do this to, so that leaves animals.
and effing pizza again!!!
Ally,
I took your post exactly how you intended. I also took a break for a short time for the same reasons. Hope you have a great Thansksgiving and look forward to reading your posts again:)
Ally,
Thanks for the heads up on the house. I thought it looked very homey and warm, too. Much better than the way it used to look. I checked out the price history and noticed that when the G's tried to sell it they listed, took it off and raised the price by $100,000! Needless to say it ended up selling for much less.
Auntie Ann...No Kate, you abusive witch. Mommy Doeslittle is more like it. Love this, thanks for the morning laugh!!
If TFW actually let Shoka in the house at times, I see that coming to an end with the new bird. Poor Shoka. I can’t imagine that TFW is going to put up with the mess and the noise the bird makes. She returned the dogs so I predict this bird will go back to the pet store within 6 months.
Admin, I share your sentiments about seeing birds in cages. Sigh... If you stop and think about it, TFW's kids are caged birds, too.
Something about the story of how this bird came to be...it doesn't quite add up. Many of you have already pointed to some discrepancies and oddities, and I have to say that this seems to me another example of how she backfills reality with fantastical flourishes. Like the story of the tow truck, the sidelined Audi...more stories than I can count. I just don't see how a self-confessed OCD -- someone who attempts to control her environment in ways most of us have never seen-- would choose a bird like that. Self-imposed havoc. It's a disaster in the making.
This woman is an idiot. From People Magazine, this past August, just over 3 months ago, "I'm living very carefully these days," and that she is making ends meet "piecing and patching together."
So when you have 8 children, some with behavioral problems, a heavy mortgage, 3 luxury cars to maintain, and so on and so on (we know the list) no employment prospects, and you'r piecing and patching money to get by, what do you do? File a federal lawsuit and buy a parrot.
I can't understand wanting a bird. Robert's about to sing like a canary. Isn't that enough?
PJ
Why why why in the hell would someone already going on and on about all she has to do take on one more thing. That is just stupid. My friend's exotic bird bit my hand once. Holy pain and bruising that was!
So when you have 8 children, some with behavioral problems, a heavy mortgage, 3 luxury cars to maintain, and so on and so on (we know the list) no employment prospects, and you'r piecing and patching money to get by, what do you do? File a federal lawsuit and buy a parrot.
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EXACTLY. Let's assume for argument's sake she IS piecing and patching. Well then I have no sympathy for her. If you are piecing and patching you have no business buying a living thing that requires a great deal of time and work and most of all money. You need to focus on pinching every penny. If anything, people who are piecing and patching need to take a serious look at whether they can even keep the animals they have let alone take on new ones. What an idiot. If she really WERE piecing and patching I think these poor kids might starve, she's that stupid.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zf-33LDTuAA
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Wow.
Now don't tell me the people who work at the pet store don't KNOW who she is. They didn't try to talk her into something more compatible with her household? Irresponsible just like the dog breeder.
And obviously she didn't do HER homework and research (pfft! yeah, I know!) I'm telling you, this is a pre-emptive strike. Robert???
Kate is a twit said... 74
While looking at the picture of the bird on Kate's shoulder, my first thought was "wouldn't it be funny if the bird pooped"!!
Oh, it will. My friend wears an old shirt when she takes her bird out. My friend is single, no kids, and a bird-lover though. And quiet and calm.
If you are piecing and patching you have no business buying a living thing that requires a great deal of time and work and most of all money. You need to focus on pinching every penny.
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Ok, this may ruffle a few feathers (pun intended) but I feel the same way about people on welfare. Some, and I repeat "some" people on social assistance living in social housing seem to have the cutest pure bred EXPENSIVE dogs, all "tricked out" with outfits and such. Also, 'SOME' seem to have a lot of tattoos $$$(sleeves and whole back/body) WHO pays for all this???
The woman has no patience with any living thing.
The puppies and their accidents. She brought the male dog back for ratings after she and Jon split.
Sick kids sleep on the cold laundry room floor (while the machines are running)
During baking, the kids are not allowed to spill one grain of sugar.
"Yelling orders" at breakfast. She got in an argument on twitter about that one.
Gum in Collin's bear.
And one of the best, a child handing pizza to her boyfriend with her bare hands.
And now a complicated, pet who is not domesticated.
God help that bird.
This stinks of a bribe. It's not Christmas yet. Far from it. You don't get a present just because. I'm betting one or more of the kids really wanted one. And to keep the kids all buttered up and wanting to live with her she ran out and got it for them.
Well, kids want stupid things all the time. That's when you have to explain we can't afford it, it's not practical, we're too busy for a bird, maybe we'll reconsider next year. Be a freaking adult. Stop being such an immature fool.
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Amen to that!
Yes, I am upset, really upset at how incredible selfish this woman can be. She is truly without any question in my mind a Narcissist.
Attached is a good easy read concerning parrots.
God I wish someone would convince her now, before it is too late to take that bird back. She is a supreme idiot.
Have some coffee TFW.
http://www.avianwelfare.org/issues/articles/truenature.htm
Does anyone else get the odd feeling she is intentionally setting herself up to whine and complain and be a victim?
It's almost like she's making life as hard and chaotic as possible so she can, I don't now, do the talk show circuit or sympathetic friend circuit or whine to Jon via text or whoever about how TOUGH she has it and how BUSY she is and how TIGHT money is and how she is the busiest mommy ever.
I just don't understand this decision otherwise. It's so absurd.
I'm betting one or more of the kids really wanted one. And to keep the kids all buttered up and wanting to live with her she ran out and got it for them.
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But then you see, the kids will PAY for it! Narcs NEVER EVER do anything for anyone else for the pure and simple reason that it gives them pleasure. You're right, a bribe, but also something to hold over their heads. She can get rid of it just as easily as she got it. The pleasure she gets is to torture their little hearts, it's leverage for her. Another way to show them how she IS absolutely in control of them.
I just don't understand this decision otherwise. It's so absurd
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When have we ever understood her? See what Jon had to live with?See what the kids live with?
Yes see what Jon had to live with and see what Jodi and Ashley had to put up with and everyone else.
You know had she never gone on twitter I don't think I would have been nearly as sympathetic to her long line of victims as I am. It's a real frightening look inside that head. I feel sorry for anyone who has ever had to deal with her. It must be like having teenagers all over again. You can't reason with her. She makes such dumb impulsive decisions. She's a wackadoodle.
This stinks of a bribe. It's not Christmas yet. Far from it.
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It stinks alright! I was wondering what this was about, just another caffeine fueled knee jerk parenting move or is there some ulterior motive. If I was not afraid for the parrot's safety I would hope it bites her and then poops in her "yummy stuff."
If I was not afraid for the parrot's safety I would hope it bites her and then poops in her "yummy stuff."
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Yeah really wouldn't want the poor bird to catch rabies.
The Empress Has New Clothes said... 79
So she's going to have that bird until she's around 70 years old or so? Fascinating. I hope it knows how to help her.
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That was one of my first thoughts. The kids will be up and out of the house and does she expect to take care of that bird when she's an empty nester?
No way.
I really like birds. They fascinate me, but I have great trepidation about owning one. The longevity alone should give anyone pause.
These creatures are not an impulse buy, rather, I view them as a lifestyle choice.
I had a parakeet as a child and it was a chore to take care of on a daily basis. Birds are messy and you can not get behind the 8 ball in keeping up with the cleaning.
If Kate can't stand a "granule" on the floor, how will she tolerate the mess that will inevitably surround the bird?
Feathers, feces, food will all be happening.
I say this as I watch a handful of wild birds attack food on our new window feeder! Some of them are so messy and just fling the food around!
We've been feeding wild birds for years, and that will have to do.
It's called restraint and knowing what's best for an animal, not what's best for you.
(ps.. not for nothin' and I hope I'm not going to upset anyone, but getting any pet, well, besides a fish, for a child, for Christmas or Hunnukah is just a bad idea. Pick another time when it's not a present, because you don't unwrap it, play while ensorcelled, then lose interest.
A coworker of DH's is picking up a Cavachon puppy for his son for Hannukah and to make matters worse, DH is pretty sure it's from a puppy mill, which I view the same as a pet store)
Horrible! Another living thing for her to neglect and mistreat. It just doesn't end. Poor bird, poor dog, poor kids :(
I've seen a documentary on parrots and they suffer tremendous emotional distress when neglected. I was profoundly affected watching their depression and self-mutilation.
These birds are incredibly sentient creatures and if Kate can not relate to a dog, when they are so expressive, warm and lovely, how will she love a bird unconditionally?
I say this having been profoundly disturbed by Robert's FIRST HAND reports of the conditions Shoka (and Nala) have lived in, and Kate's complete and utter disregard for the safety and well being of those dogs.
LOL! Mommy Do Little!
Teaching the kids to criticize one another's work, children including the 13 year old girls standing in line for food, boys cleaning up after 3800 chickens, corporal punishment, a dog that roams the grounds and kills. And all extended family is alienated.
Its like a blend of "Mommy Dearest" and "Lord of the Flies" in that house.
We've seen this over and over with her. Do the job in the hardest possible way and complain to *everyone* how hard she has it. She sets it up for failure every time.
Why, why does she do that?
Remember when Shoka vomited up a partially digested small animal and all Kate could do was bitch about the rug?!
My rugs have seen vomit, poop, diarrhea and even blood, but that's what the Bissell is for, for Pete's sake.
My first concern is the dog and whether we need to get them to the vet/Emergency Hospital.
Lifespan of a Conure is 20 to 40 years.
TFW's gonna bring that average down.
"All Conure species require daily interaction and training. The Conure parrot species are active, fun, clownish birds that need EXPERIENCED BIRD owners and lots of affection."
Attention and affection. Again I get to use a tweet that I think sums up TFW's ability to parent, or in this case provide attention and affection.
Krystal @KrystalRansom 5 Apr
@Kateplusmy8 what do I do when my 19 month old has a screaming tantrum when she doesn't get her own way?
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 5 Apr
@KrystalRansom ignore her. Walk over her (If on floor, throwing fit). She is looking for a reaction :) don't give her one:) GL.
Have some more coffee.
I think I might change my moniker to "have some more coffee."
Virginia Pen Mom said... 44
Ally, thanks for sharing! That house is a lot bigger than I thought - 3,446 square feet, 5 bedrooms. It's very spacious.
http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/2190-Andrew-Ave-Elizabethtown-PA-17022/9775798_zpid/
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Even though a lot of square footage, not a lot of practical square footage. A lot of the space is in the upstairs bedrooms and the basement. There's not a lot of space on the first floor. Which probably worked out wonderfully for TFW as her kids were never around her, but not that great if you want to be WITH your kids.
It's not a bad house, and it was fine for TFW and her family, but I'm surprised it sold for as high as it did with the weird layout. When I was looking for homes in the area, I found much more practical homes in the same price range.
Vanessa said... 92
There are always strings attached when a narc seemingly does something nice. It's another way to keep the kids on their toes, get them excited and then pull the rug out from under them. It'll be used, as you all said, as another responsibility to add to their never ending (on going) list of chores. It's also ammunition against their father but she can also use it as bragging rights. "See all that I buy/do for you" And also to belittle the kids for the way THEY will care for it. AND she'll make it that it was THEM who wanted it, THEY have to care for it. Wonder how many of those kids will grow up hating pets???
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Vanessa, as always, spot on. I doubt any of those kids will grow up to have kids or pets of their own. I have friends who were raised in big families and they don't want kids because they feel like they've raised their siblings. I doubt it will be any different for the G kids.
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Ally,
Thanks for the heads up on the house. I thought it looked very homey and warm, too. Much better than the way it used to look. I checked out the price history and noticed that when the G's tried to sell it they listed, took it off and raised the price by $100,000! Needless to say it ended up selling for much less.
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That was the stupidest thing ever, and the height of arrogance. Having just purchased a home in this area, I know that home prices here are pretty consistent, and there are not many homes over $300k, and the ones that are, are GORGEOUS. There was no way the Andrews Ave house was going to sell for over $300k.
I'm pretty sure my comment didn't go through...I was just saying Mother 'Do-Little' is an appropriate moniker for TFW!
She is trying to deflect from the animal abuse rumors.
Also, Ally, I am sorry you feel you need a break. I will also miss your posts and feel you were unfairly treated when giving an opinion on a discussion board! Please come back, and Happy Holidays if you continue to read here ;)
Kate's going to have fits when the bird starts molting. It's a mess. I hope she doesn't move it down to the basement to be alone all day.
I am so with you reader said... 122.
And It kind of piss me off that Kate said she teaches the kids how judging their sibling while pointing out short comings.
Even if it's doing chores what kind of mother would teach this to her children?
And she doesn't want to be judged?
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Lifespan of a Conure is 20 to 40 years.
TFW's gonna bring that average down.
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Nah the bird will leave her eventually every one does.
That was the stupidest thing ever, and the height of arrogance. Having just purchased a home in this area, I know that home prices here are pretty consistent, and there are not many homes over $300k, and the ones that are, are GORGEOUS. There was no way the Andrews Ave house was going to sell for over $300k.
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Congratulations!
Kate (and maybe Jon) thought that the "Jon and Kate + 8" house would be such a huge draw that people would be willing to pay way over market price.
Wow, where to start. If I were forced to buy that house because it was the only one on the market in a 20-miles radius, I'd do so reluctantly and immediately arrange for a priest to come and sprinkle copious amounts of holy water all around.
OK, I'm kidding, but just barely. When DH and I were looking at houses where we currently live, the homes are mostly previously owned and some 30-40 years old. Not much in the way of virgin farmland to build new homes like where Kate lives in PA.
Anyway, I could tell within seconds if the house "felt" hinky, and that Andrews Ave. home would give me the willies!
(ps.. not for nothin' and I hope I'm not going to upset anyone, but getting any pet, well, besides a fish, for a child, for Christmas or Hunnukah is just a bad idea. Pick another time when it's not a present, because you don't unwrap it, play while ensorcelled, then lose interest.
A coworker of DH's is picking up a Cavachon puppy for his son for Hannukah and to make matters worse, DH is pretty sure it's from a puppy mill, which I view the same as a pet store)
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I volunteer with a cat rescue and we "sell out" of kittens every holiday season. I couldn't disagree more that getting a pet for a child for Christmas or Hanukkah is inherently a bad idea. We have never had a kitten returned because the thrill of the gift wore off nor has there every been any evidence that kittens adopted as holiday gifts for children are any less loved and cared for than our other adopted pets. It's about whether the family has planned for the pet, is ready for the long term commitment, etc., not about whether the pet is a "gift" to a child. (We do not adopt out kittens as surprise gifts for adults.)
It's not a bad house, and it was fine for TFW and her family, but I'm surprised it sold for as high as it did with the weird layout. When I was looking for homes in the area, I found much more practical homes in the same price range.
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I wrote the same thing yesterday, in support of the Gosselins moving into a bigger home.
The Andrews Ave home looks better on paper than in person. The first floor design was horrendously horrendous!
Sooooo predictable! CAGED animal. Check. Blog about the animal. Check. Picture of herself with insane eyes and shiney plastic forehead. Check. Bribe for kids. Check. New chore for kids. Check. New nickname for herself. Check. Poor bird.
BTW, how much does a parrot like that cost? I thought she was piecing and patching.
How do we really know she purchased this bird? She post a picture of the bird on her shoulder that she could have taken in the pet store. Why not post pictures of the kids looking at the bird or holding the bird? I think this is her attempt at deflection. This is her typical M.O.
TLC stinks...yes CAGED animal. What is her self pity cry? "Everyone eventually leaves me." Cage this bird for 20 or so years and it will never leave her.
We only cage humans for that long when they've murdered someone.
I'm getting to upset, I don't like people putting animals of any kind in cages for their own personal entertainment.
Add to that in this particular case it is this control freak narcissist and I am livid.
I need to back away for a bit.
Tomorrow is the 27th and I fully expect another motion for extension of time.
Crazy Cat Lady said... 135
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Great to hear.
I still think a puppy is a really bad idea at the holidays. Cats simply are not as labor intensive.
I've owned both.
Since TFW announced the parrot about 12 hours ago there really hasn't been much response on twitter. Not like it used to be. And no media rag has mentioned it either.
There are new owners with no children, last owners after Gosselins had 6. New owners have completely renovated again, tearing out all the carpets and such....doesn't even remotely look like the way it was, it is just beautiful. Owners before the Gosselins were a retired couple who were immaculate in their care of their home. He died of cancer, she unexpectedly died in an auto accident. Kate's brother's family lived in the neighborhood...that is how they got here. We have come full circle now.
Come back soon, reader!
So, what's the general gestalt about keeping birds in cages? Is it something that you do when you step out of the house, or at night for bedtime?
Can a cage be like a crate for a dog, in that dogs can be trained to relax in a crate like it's a den?
FTR, I crate trained my dogs, but they don't stay or live in the crate. The do however, choose to go in and out at will to chill out and have some quiet time.
Tucker's Mom said... 134
Congratulations!
Kate (and maybe Jon) thought that the "Jon and Kate + 8" house would be such a huge draw that people would be willing to pay way over market price.
Wow, where to start. If I were forced to buy that house because it was the only one on the market in a 20-miles radius, I'd do so reluctantly and immediately arrange for a priest to come and sprinkle copious amounts of holy water all around.
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And the reality was no local wanted to touch that house with a ten foot pole. It only sold after the price dropped and the hoopla surrounding the house died down.
LOL at the holy water reference! It's actually a really nice neighborhood. Anyone would be lucky to live there! I just would never spend that much money on that particular house when for the same price you could buy a house that has a much better layout.
Her lawsuit with RH really comes down to can she prove he illegally stole or acquired documents. Trash can documents Kate put at the curb?
For the kid's sake, am hoping KG will withdraw her complaint. RH has clearly published docs on his web site, but most importantly, maybe these kids deserve a right to privacy at this juncture.
IMO. JH should request attorney fees paid by KG and let it go. It is up to Jon to make sure these kids have proper parenting, and for Jon to notify the Court of any problems. None of this should be discussed publicly for the kid's sake unless the Court rulings are not fair to the kids.
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The house on Andrews was big enough in regards to square footage. It also was big enough, because it was what they could AFFORD. just because you have a large family doesn't entitle you to bigger and better, and expect others to help you pay for it (in her case, the kids).
as far as the bird purchase, I can't imagine an OCD person buying a bird. Birds are expensive, their cages, etc, are EXPENSIVE. Besides a piecing and patching and bills in my purse I can't pay, a truly OCD person wouldn't buy a bird just because of the MESS. I've had parakeets before, and man, the MESS,,,bird seed and feathers, and those seed catcher things don't always work....if she flips out about crumbs on the floor, she is going to go ballistic about the bird seed scattered EVERYWHERE.
and where to place the bird in the house?
I thought she was a germaphobe, so how in the heck could she allow a bird anywhere near her kitchen? if it's placed in the basement, the poor thing will die of boredom. Birds need lots of daily interaction.
How long before the mess sends the bird back to the pet store?
Westbrooke said... 141
There are new owners with no children, last owners after Gosselins had 6. New owners have completely renovated again, tearing out all the carpets and such..
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So, it looks different than the Zillow listing pictures?
I hope the house is being taken care of with welcoming decor and mainly, no studio lighting!
Two words.....bird brain.
I've seen a documentary on parrots and they suffer tremendous emotional distress when neglected.
So do children. :-(
She post a picture of the bird on her shoulder that she could have taken in the pet store. Why not post pictures of the kids looking at the bird or holding the bird?
Because it's all about her, and nothing to do with those pesky kids?
I hope she doesn't move it down to the basement to be alone all day.
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ding ding ding! That's exactly what will happen. The dog, the kids, the bird...EVEN JON was banished to the basement at one point!
Cripes, the twins couldn't even come down to THEIR kitchen that morning on CWS! Effing bitch, that's THEIR HOUSE and if you stupidly continue to fill it up with people, pets (husbands) that you don't want, be prepared for the consequences. PLUS if you don't want anyone friggen "judging" you, that anything you say/do will be critiqued DON'T PLASTER IT ALL OVER TWITTER. famewhore
Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said... 131
Kate's going to have fits when the bird starts molting. It's a mess. I hope she doesn't move it down to the basement to be alone all day.
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I live in a development where the backyards butt up against the backyards of the people who live on the street behind you. The family who lives behind me have a conure. They put his cage outside on their deck sometimes, when the weather conditions are ideal. Oh. My. God. He just screeches and screeches and screeches. It is unbelievably annoying.
ITA with what everyone said about an african grey, I think that would have been a bit more ideal for a family bird. MY BIL had one for 27 years and he was a hoot! He talked up a storm and even learned how to perfectly mimic the dogs barking. He chirped quite a bit, but it wasn't overly loud or annoying. He was messy, always flinging stuff out of his cage. It drove my SIL nuts and she was always on my BIL to keep the bird's area clean. While I'm grateful Kate didn't get a horse or new puppy, this isn't much better. It's just a 53rd chore for the kids.
Judging by the posted picture of TFW she was either wearing a wig or had clip on extensions during her H&F appearance. Granted her hair is pulled back, but there is no way that it is as long, full and luxurious as it was on that TV appearance.
Also, Ally, I am sorry you feel you need a break. I will also miss your posts and feel you were unfairly treated when giving an opinion on a discussion board!
Agree. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and their choice of what to discuss. If Admin thinks something should be an off-limits topic she would say so. It seemed to me that Ally was coming from a place of concern, as most of us are.
Those who didn't like the choice of topic could have said so respectfully, and some did say so respectfully, but some did not.
Besides, there's always the choice to scroll on past and not call attention to posts you don't like.
Like many have said, this bird will be, by it's nature, messy, smelly and loud. What was she thinking? Oh probably just that SHE needed a treat, probably wanted one as a kid and was denied, one more pet, in the singular, for 8 kids to fight over. It is all ridiculous, but what else is new in Kateworld?
TFW's smile is always so fake. I don't think I've ever seen a pic of her in the last couple of years where she doesn't have a forced smile. Can't she just relax a little and really enjoy herself when taking a photo.........She thinks she's always on display.
Two words.....bird brain
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LOL at the holy water reference!
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Angie said... 147
The house on Andrews was big enough in regards to square footage. It also was big enough, because it was what they could AFFORD. just because you have a large family doesn't entitle you to bigger and better, and expect others to help you pay for it (in her case, the kids).
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yes, exactly!
But if you "pray" hard enough YOU TOO can be blessed with a bigger shiner house and all your bills will magically be paid!!
LOL at the holy water reference! It's actually a really nice neighborhood. Anyone would be lucky to live there!
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And it seems as though the neighbors welcomed the Gosselins with open arms and they were turned away by Kate.
The one neighbor with a blog summed it up; the neighborhood wanted to help, but their efforts were rebuffed. Jon was a social guy and Kate was a shrew (paraphrasing).
I think that the bird was for her. She's probably fighting extreme depression over everything that has happened to her lately and has the need to have something new and shiny to make her feel all better. She's thrashing to grab onto anything right now as the drain is pulling more and more. And her twitter fans don't seem to care anymore.
Did anyone notice kate's neck in the picture with the poor bird? Did you see that bone protruding out on the right with a very thin layer of fat on it? The thin layer of fat on her face? She has lost a tremendous amount of weight for her size. She is skinny. Really.
I can't believe she did this. The bog she wrote was nauseating. The store employee turned into the store manager. Shoka's brother was there. REALLY? Shoka stays there as a pet of the store owner? No one would adopt/purchase Shoka's brother? Then he has been there a long time or was with homes and they sent him back.
I remember years ago seeing a bird cage and the floor had newspapers all around to catch the mess. I couldn't believe how messy it was. My grandmother decided years and years ago to get us a bird for Christmas. My mother didn't need it because we were too young and my mother was piecing and patching working full time, us in daycare and school, and all the while being very sick with cystitis. My poor mother would be in such pain laying on the couch crying, sobbing and I remember getting cold washcloths for her face. It was very upsetting to see this. My dad flipped and screamed and cursed that she was not getting that bird for us. I couldn't imagine my mother having that added responsibility.
Recently an ad on tv has a Fake Bird that has a motion sensor and will twirp and sing when it senses movement. This is what TFWMDL should of got, instead of spending the kids money for a bird set up that could of cost over a Grand! How many classes could that of paid for the kids? That poor animal. He will not make it six months. 30 tops.
Anyone that comes in now into a pet store with cash can buy any animal they want with no problem. They should of not sold her that BIRD! She did her research? Did she find out that they mutilate their self and pluck their feathers out under stress? She is so sadistic, the cage, the self mutilation, she thrives on getting pleasure seeing humans and animals suffer.
Kate and a bird. OMG what a laugh. What is she going to do when it poops on her kitchen counter? I predict some new recipes from her. Zoro Stew, Zoro on a stick, Zoro chili, Zoro soup, Stuffed Zoro.Turchickzoro for xmas dinner with a side of sloppy depressed kids. (Sorry can't help myself)
Happy Thanksgiving everyone.
Just what they needed...another screeching thing in that household. With a little bit of luck that bird will copy everything that comes out of Kate's mouth!
I can see the bird being returned sooner or later because one of the kids developed "an allergy" humhummm.
JoyinVirginia said... 32
OT: anyone here ever tried ironing a vinyl tablecloth? It's really wrinkly! I am going to try iron on low setting with a dishcloth as pressing cloth to protect the vinyl. Any other ideas, would love to hear them.
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Put it in the dryer and take it out while it is still hot. Then put it on the table and the wrinkles should have fallen out.
omg kids first
That was going to be my next post. Sad part is she will hate that bird sooner than later. Like everyone and everything.
Ally, hope you're still reading here...sorry you feel badly. I've always enjoyed your posts, and was intrigued by the former G house. I went to the site, but couldn't remember the street name, so gave up. But thanks for the info. The former house, indeed the present house, has zero personality, perfect reflection of TFW.
IF she obtains another extension (legal, not hair) I'll feel like kicking the island...
I think Kate is confused about Thanksgiving traditions. Usually, and in most homes, you roast a turkey for a family dinner this week. Apparently KG thinks you buy a pet bird.
I also think she bought this for herself, recent events making her 'need' something new and pretty. Guess a new car is out of her budget this time, and perhaps Skeeve is too busy to accompany her on a trip, or also not in the current budget. Twit.
What a coincidence!
What are the chances of running into someone in your good-sized town with the litter mate to your dog, whose litter was in a town some miles away? Completely not happening?
The parrot thing reminds me of how overly emoting she was with the koala.
So, it looks different than the Zillow listing pictures?
I hope the house is being taken care of with welcoming decor and mainly, no studio lighting!
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Those aren't "new pictures." Those were taken when the people who bought it from Kate had it listed. You can see kids' rooms and the nursery.
I went to TFW's website to check out the parrot. She said the parrot is almost six months old. Is this a parrot that will get significantly bigger or will it stay small?
I don't go to her website so I thought I'd check it out. Under her Fashion & Beauty and her Fitness posts, she hasn't written anything since November 2011. So I guess people aren't flocking to her for fashion, beauty and fitness advice. But I did get a laugh when I went to her Inspiration section. There is a picture of TFW, the kids and Taylor Swift and underneath was an ad for birth control info. At the bottom of her post about Zorro was an ad for Bat & Bird removal here on the Cape. Maybe I should direct them to Wernersville, PA
High Sodium Content - I know you're joking about the recipes, but the same thought crossed my mind too. It won't be hide the bunny anymore, it'll be hide the parrot. From what I've read here and elsewhere, conures do not like to be ignored and will screech loudly if they are.
Light a candle for poor Zorro.
As a African Grey parrot owner, I have to say that WOS would not have done better to get a Grey. Grey's can be very sensitive and are like having a 3 year old in the house all the time. Conures aren't quite as verbal as Greys are, but conures have the most piercing screech of all parrots.
I give WOS a week before she tires of this new pet. She will tire of its screeching and of its throwing of food and shredding toys. A good parrot owner knows that is what parrots do, but we all know WOS is not a good parrot owner. And the first time that little conure grabs her skin with his sharp little beak.... we'll all hear it!
And I sure hope the pet store owner told her to feed the poor bird pellets and fresh veggies and fruit.
Nothing good will come of this.
Well, there we go! Kate just blew the poor me has no money, piece mealing the finances to hell. Nobody will now believe the dog & pony show now.
That bird sells for at Petsmart: for: $499.99 on sale right now, from $549.99. That does not include the cage and all the stuff that goes with it. That is another at least $400. So Kate has to be a show-off/I'm better than everyone else, and not thinking about what a hypocrite she really is, when crying poor. Your regular birds are not good enough, too common/regular/mediocre/mundane, to own. God, help that poor bird.
To Kates lachey slave fans:just for the record, before you call me jellus, I have 4 birds. They are 2 parakeets, one is 8 years old the other is 6. My other 2 birds are cocktiels and both are 6.
Yes, birds can be messy, yes, you have to feed them every 2-3 days, clean them at the least once a week. Perhaps the girls did not want to take care of the chickens, so Kate got them a bird instead.
I meant to say the bird wouldn't last 6 months under her watch. 30 DAYS, TOPS!
IF, and that is a big IF, kate wanted to throw away a Grand at something to make her feel better, why didn't she get Jon a gift card at the grocery store he shops and put that Grand on it to help him feed the kids when they visit him. That would of been a wonderful way to show that she cares about her kids and seeing that they are taken care off.
Oh, Hades to the NO!
Also, the other day, Matlock was coming on and I was fixing to turn it and the episode was called, The Cookie Monster. Find out that a lady named Katie, owned a cookie company. It is amazing the similarities that this Katie had with TFWMDL! So funny, the narcissism, the hatefulness. At the end, after she shouted she was going to crush her competitors in a hostile takeover, she stomped out and the camera kinda zoomed in on one man and he said , WITCH! HAHAHAHA
All this drama happened in the first 5 or 6 minutes. I have been trying to find it online on you tube for a link. But it is Matlock Season 4 Episode 24. The baker man who called her a witch had her number! hahaha
Lukebandit and everyone else: to keep birds from messing up the floor: I take out the wire, grate, and put all the birds cups on the floor, and put a seed guard around the cage. Parakeets are known to fling seeds. I line my cage floor with cheap paper towels(the ones I buy a case at Menards 2/$1 which is 30/$15). I buy seed in bulk at Pet Supplies Plus.
Greylady said... 165
As a African Grey parrot owner, I have to say that WOS would not have done better to get a Grey. Grey's can be very sensitive and are like having a 3 year old in the house all the time. Conures aren't quite as verbal as Greys are, but conures have the most piercing screech of all parrots.
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Love your screen name!
I wonder, too, if parrots are sensitive to changing people/caregivers in the home.
Kate skeedattles out of town a whole lot, and from what we know from Robert's book, the "help" turns over quite a bit.
I wonder if this upsets birds.
I haven't approached many parrots, but when I do, it's with great caution, because I don't know what they're thinking or feeling!
Another question-- can you "board" a bird? Are there many places that do this? Or, do you get in-home care or trust them to a family member or neighbor?
Thanks!
I think she bought the bird to punish the kids. When TFW is feeling down, her go-to is punishing someone else. She gets enjoyment out of others' suffering.
The lawsuit isn't going her way, and her name is mud. So what does she do to cope? She gets a shrieking bird that no doubt lives near the kids bedrooms, or in their play area in the basement. They have to clean up after it and deal with it's noisiness. No doubt she did her research, research into what could harm her kids the most. TFW is sick, and I would not put it past her to buy this animal specifically to torture her kids.
ok, so those of us here who don't know anything about birds managed to get pretty alarming information in what? minutes? Either she didn't do the research, or she didn't listen to the people at the store. Or she did do the research and went ahead and bought it anyways. Just like "trying for one more"
Sara MRN (538) has a Vertu good point, as do all of you posters who have pointed put the story is just too complicated and coincidental. How do we know it isn't all just a fantasy like her fantasizing she could dance?
And with that coincidental segue, the finale of Dancin With Them Thar Stars is tonight!
I'm going to talk about Monday nights show, so scroll on past if you recorded the show and were waiting until Thanksgiving to watch out with your nearest and dearest. the bored couple had only been on Jimmy Kimmel, Good Morning America, commercials, etc.
The dh and I watched Monday might. And he really watched, and was amazed at how good Bill Engvall.did. I told him that is what happens when you really work at it and practice! And the judges appreciated how far he had come and how hard he has worked. And the judges REALLY complimented the first season pro paired with Bill, Emma Slater. Bill thanked her too, said he feels like he has another daughter. And he thanked his wife for putting up with the craziness.
Now, on to the free style dances. all very entertaining. But after jack Osborne and Cheryl did their dance, and taking to Tom and the judges, Cheryl was more emotional than i've ever seen her. I think there is something very special about jack as a person. It was really touching to see his wife, mother, sister embracing Cheryl too like one more in the family. with jack and Bill both, I feel like I am seeing more of their authentic personalities. And THAT is why I love this show, you get to see something real and true when people are really working to learn this new thing. Amber and Corbin are both so talented, it just doesn't seem as much of a struggle.
Ok if you are reading from bottom up, i'm talking about Monday nights DWTS so skip if you don't want to hear about it!
Please do not go to her website and add to her visitor counts. That is the reason she posts news and photos like this there rather than twitter.
The more popular her site is (visits) the more sponsors take notice.
The picture of the parrot and the narcissist will show up soon enough on the internet.
Zorro won't get much bigger, if any. Conures are fairly small parrots.
Anyone that comes in now into a pet store with cash can buy any animal they want with no problem.
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It's all about turn around and profit. They don't give 2 hoots (sorry, can't help myself today) what happens to the pet once it's gone.
Vanessa said... 93
Ok, something BIG must be coming out with the book about some REAL animal abuse. The whole convoluted story about how she got the parrot? Play date? When a narc lies and the story is just a wee bit too long and strange? She's covering something. But you can bet this new version of the "truth" has already wiped out the REAL truth from her pea brain.
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I'm starting to think she went to the pet store and said "what animal makes the most annoying noise?" or "what animal makes the most mess?" and bought this particular bird to hold over and emotionally torture her kids.
Amanda, Iowa said... 164
Just what they needed...another screeching thing in that household. With a little bit of luck that bird will copy everything that comes out of Kate's mouth!
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That bird had better "parrot back" the CORRECT order of eating its meal, or he will be in for a shreiking!
"nuts, fruit, cereal, seeds...."
QUIET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My opinion, she is giving up Shoka and the meeting with his "brother" is to see if they get along. She is getting a parrot to cover the guilt. All too much of a coincidence.
Parrots are not meant to be caged. They need to be socialized. That means "out" time for several hours during the day. Kate is not going to do that. When they are caged, they become bored, and a bored parrot can become a plucker. Google pictures of a plucker. She's never going to want to deal with that.
Who is going to trim its beak, clip its wings (for safely...you can't have a bird flying all over the house), and trim its nails? Is Kate going to clean the messy cage? If it's not done regularly, she'll get those nasty little flies that are similar to gnats, and they are buggers to get rid of.
She absolutely has no idea what she's gotten herself into. If she wanted another pet for Christmas, why not a hamster?
She didn't think this thing through. That bird will end up in a foster home in no time. She has an active household, screaming, yelling, and that bird will pick up on that noise and try to keep up by vocalizing. The first time the bird screams when the sun rises, she'll throw a blanket over the cage where it probably will stay permanently. I hope she has coupons for bird food. She's going to have the shock of her life when she finds out how much good quality food costs.
And to think that she's piecing and patching. I guess it's just good that it's not a horse or pony.
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I'm glad TWF posted a picture of only her and the bird. Leave the children out of the pictures with the bird. There is no need to contiune thrusting them in the spotlight just to post with the bird to please the public viewers. They need a break. Thanks.
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@Sassccha @Kateplusmy8 Yep, and her "piecing&patcing" sob story was 1 more lie. Bird+cage, etc., would easily cost around $450.
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lol! Let's triple that. She wishes it would only be $450.00. She bought the bird at a pet store. Huge mark-up. She couldn't even get the bird for that price. Cages are extremely expensive, and I would bet that she ordered a top of the line, not a mediocre cage...they can cost more than five hundred dollars. The bird will need toys (anywhere from fifteen to twenty dollars) and they can chew through them in a few days. She's shelled out some big bucks for that purchase. Piecing and patching...yeah, right.
That sounds about right, this is a set up to give up Shoka, and the reasoning will be something contrived like, "Seeing Shoka so happy with his brother....:" or maybe it will be, "having the parrot and Shoka were just too much so...."
I am willing to be this is absolutely it.
You happen to run into the pet store where the employee/owner, WHO yo SPEAK with just happens to own a dog from the same litter your dog came from....and you just happen to buy a parrot.
Yep I'll bet the "meeting" is the start of the transfer.
If this is the case I would say I am happy, no doubt Shoka will be better off and have companionship and love, but still I am so sorry today for that parrot. Breaks my heart.
i am pretty sure the first phrases she will teach the bird will run along the line of
"you're beautiful"
you're the best mommy ever"
"jon is an ass".....etc
Vanessa said... 180
"ok, so those of us here who don't know anything about birds managed to get pretty alarming information in what? minutes?
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You are spot on.
I'm sorry that I have to say this but everything anyone has posted about the parrot is completely wrong. TFW has purchased the only parrot on the face of the earth that will sit quietly in it's cage, never make a mess, speak only when spoken to AND only screech with delight when he see TFW coming near with a shinny new toy or his food.
This poor parrot may be pining for the fjords in no time flat!
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=npjOSLCR2hE&desktop_uri=/watch?v=npjOSLCR2hE.
Joy, I enjoy watching Jack, too.
Almost inexplicably, I was really into watching The Osbournes.
I don't know if there is a more dysfunctional family on tv! But their dysfunction had nothing to do with disrespect or not loving one another dearly, as we saw with Kate's shows.
The O's desperately love each other and while Jack and Kelly showed major signs of drug and entitlement problems, somehow, they've turned into exceptional adults who are clearly talented.
I remember watching a special that Jack did shortly after their reality tv show ended. Jack had become an addict, was fat, out of shape and headed for trouble when he got his act together.
Jack's show was about him taking on extremely difficult physical challenges around the globe, and ended with him climbing El Capitan, so he's no stranger to taking on challenges.
Anyway, there's something endearing about this addiction-addled family and then there's Jon and Kate, who burst onto the scene as rather milquetoast Christians and guess who I like a whole lot more?
Yes, give me Ozzie and his brood any day.
Parrots are sensitive to people coming in and out of their lives. Our 2nd grey was purchased form another family. I am the one that went and picked her up and brought her home. She wouldn't have anything to do with me for a year! My husband is her very favorite person, even though I do all the husbandry for the parrots. He chit chats with her and gets all her adoration.
Its very hard to find someone to care for the birds when you want to go away. We are lucky that our son lives close enough that he can come over and visit with them, clean cages, feed then, etc if we are only gone for a long weekend. If we are gone for a longer period of time, or if he is gone as well, we do have to board them. We are lucky to have a quality boarding place fairly close to us. There are not many. And you can't just ask a neighbor to come in and feed them while you are gone like you can a cat.
Parrots are a big commitment.I'm not sure I would choose the same path if I were to do it again. Even though I have loved the past 12 years with my Grey girlies.
WOS has no clue what she is getting in to. Conure beaks are sharp and they hurt! I'd rather be bit by my Greys than a conure and their beaks are huge in comparison.
I guarantee if the bird doesn't work out, she'll never say a thing about it. I also believe it's being kept in the basement family room area; I can't see her having the mess on the immaculate main level or allowing it anywhere near the kitchen. (But since she's basically lost her marbles, who knows.)
Again I say it's another ploy to pull her kids away from Jon.
Yes, I agree. Her hair looks super thin. I believe she does not eat enough protein to keep it more in a healthier state. I believe that about the kids. The meatloaf for example. She makes a meatloaf with 2 pounds of meat and has half of it left over which would leave the kids with 2 oz. of meat. For growing kids? For growing boys, working like mules taking care of the chickens? I am praying she goes forward to deposition. She deserves it.
How dumb is Kate?
Instead of spending $500 on a bird, plus another $400-$600 on a cage & stuff for this poor bird, Kate could have made a donation to help those people who were/are in the recent disasters. Infact today a lot of the TV stations across the US are having a fund raiser. This Kate would have looked real good for you, to donate the cost of the bird $1000(cage , stuff, bird) to the disaster relief. It would show that even a person who is on a tight budget can give a little. This would have fit in Kates: I've changed book. But no, Kate has to bring another poor unfortunate creature into that household, and not a parakeet, which would have been $18, cage & stuff another $40, but an expensive bird, just to show off.
lukebandit said:
Oh, Hades to the NO!
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Got a chuckle from your wording lukebandit :)
I find it interesting and amusing that the sheeple also follow the LeAnn Rimes/Eddie Cibrian/Brandi Glanville drama. Brandi is no angel but LeAnn Rimes is guilty as sin for cruelly using her stepsons to hurt and taunt Brandi. LeAnn, like TFW, thinks everyone should stop being mean to her and calls herself an anti-bullying advocate, but does not practice what she preaches. I just came across this article from August. Sheesh, who does she remind you of?
http://www.fishwrapper.com/post/2013/08/12/leann-rimes-bully-t-shirt-aaron-f-brandi-glanville-concert/
I still snicker when I think about how LeAnn tried to SLAPP the two fans who released her nasty voicemail. She had NO case and dropped that thing like a lead weight. Our justice system isn't perfect, but I greatly appreciate the fact that the judges in this country have consistently shown zero tolerance for people who force themselves into the public eye, then try to stifle free speech.
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