Parrots are tropical birds. She will kill it the first time she flings all the windows open in winter to punish the kids for getting sick.
I wonder how it will work out for her the first time she slaps the poor thing with a wooden spoon for getting seeds on her floor or screeching at an inopportune time. We KNOW it wont end well for this poor bird.
Another question-- can you "board" a bird? Are there many places that do this? Or, do you get in-home care or trust them to a family member or neighbor? Thanks!
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Yes, there are some vets who will board a bird. Depending on the bird, though, it's not a good idea. Birds are territorial and like to stay in their own environment. Even then, depending on the bird's personality, any separation from the family can cause anxiety. A friend of mine had a Moluccan cockatoo (a screamer)...a large bird, who was very family-oriented, and a sensitive bird. The family went on vacation for two weeks and someone came in and cared for her while they were gone. The bird missed the family so much that by the time they got home, she had plucked nearly all of her feathers and looked like a bald pink chicken.
Joy -- Bill is scheduled at the local performing arts center here in April. I had never heard of him before DWTS, but he seems like such a nice guy. I'm going to the show to see what kind of a performance he puts on.
Lauren @ljohnson2006 21m @BHappyLoveLaugh so sorry that the trolls are causing so much grief. no respect for others. If @Kateplusmy8 signed the site, she cares. 💜
She's all gaga for the new pet now, give it time... Remember she RACED the kids to the dog pen and SHE picked the puppies first. SHE named them? And what? That EVENING she's already bitching about them peeing on the carpet and that the kids weren't doing their job. At dinner, the kids, in unison (gag) thank her. She barks "YOUR NOT WELCOME". It's just like her having the tups. She liked when they were her little dolls. When it came down to the real DIRTY part of raising children, she pawned it off to someone else, she smacked the crap out of them, verbally and emotionally still abuses them, basically left them, days, weeks on end and STILL HAD THE GALL TO COMPLAIN. Lather rinse repeat.
My opinion, she is giving up Shoka and the meeting with his "brother" is to see if they get along. She is getting a parrot to cover the guilt. All too much of a coincidence.
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Yes Tucker's mom those are from last family, they had to move, very sweet family....new owners have been renovating for over a month now....all re-landscaped as well. I think they have taken out all effects of 14 children over the last ten years. This new Reno is extensive
Crazy Cat Lady -- I agree that it isn't an inherently bad idea to gift a puppy or a kitten for Christmas or any other holiday. I used to breed cats. When parents would get in touch with me about getting a kitten for their child for a holiday gift, I'd urge them to come see the kittens I had available. If they decided that they wanted one of my kittens, I'd fix up a little gift basket with a kitty bed, a few toys, a picture of the available kittens (and a copy of my sales contract for the parents) and have them gift the basket, then come back with the child after the holidays to pick out the kitten. I wanted to see the child interact with them before I let one of my babies go to a forever home. Not all kittens/pups are compatible with a particular child. You need to fit the kid's personality with the pet. The biggest knock on giving a pet as a gift is that the holidays are so chaotic in some homes that it's a terrible way to introduce a new animal and help them make the adjustment to a new home.
TFMJG does not need another living creature in that house of hers (I refuse to call it a home. There's nothing homelike about it). Especially a parrot that will require a lot of care, attention, and interaction. She can't take proper care of the animals she already has (or her children, for that matter).
reader and other legal eagles here... is it typical to wait until the 11th hour to ask for an extension, or an extension on an extension? It seems like these motions, and the decision to drop the suit against Jon, were brought to light at the last moment, as if to prolong the drama or keep the opposition sweating. Thoughts?
Vanessa said... 107 Ok, this may ruffle a few feathers (pun intended) but I feel the same way about people on welfare. Some, and I repeat "some" people on social assistance living in social housing seem to have the cutest pure bred EXPENSIVE dogs, all "tricked out" with outfits and such. Also, 'SOME' seem to have a lot of tattoos $$$(sleeves and whole back/body) WHO pays for all this??? *********** Because I value this blog so much as just about the only place online where people can have reasonable discussions about the Gosselin saga, I purposely stay away from discussions involving politics, social viewpoints, and other hot button topics. There are so many other places online where I can share my views and know that the conversations will get heated, am prepared for name-calling and foul language, etc.
If this were another blog or website, I might respond to your comment with a different point of view. My remarks might then stir up further remarks from others, and it could turn unpleasant.
Not telling you or anyone else what to say or where to say it -- only that I'm well aware that posters here come from all sorts of political and sociological backgrounds, with a whole variety of strongly held opinions, and those conversations can often get quite heated. Do we really want to go there, over a discussion on how we view people who access the social safety net?
"We all enjoy praise and admiration on occasion, but narcissists don’t enjoy occasional admiration- they crave admiration all the time (as can be had through status, power and money) almost like an addiction. To obtain the status that they seek, they will exaggerate or misrepresent their talents and accomplishments. They may even lie and cheat in order to get promotions, win races, or seduce people.
Narcissists are preoccupied with self-aggrandizement to sharpen public opinion of their image. They fantasize about, and seek out, power, fame, status and money; they are envious of others who have plenty of these resources.To him, money is the ultimate love substitute. Secondly, his grandiose thinking leads him to believe that he should have, or does have, more money than he actually possesses. This leads to reckless spending, to pathological gambling, to substance abuse, or to compulsive shopping.
Narcissists engage in magical thinking which leads to irresponsible, shortsighted behavior for which they believe they are immune from the results of that behavior. They descend into debt, commit financial crimes, and hassle people- including their closest relatives. Furthermore, their fantasies lead them to believe in their fabricated financial “facts” which are not commensurate with their talents, qualifications, jobs, and resources. They pretend to be richer than they are or pretend to be capable of becoming rich if they so desire. They are greedy but have an ambivalent, love-hate relationship with money. They can be mean, stingy, and calculating with their own money yet an eager spendthrift with other people’s money. They live lavishly and often well above their means. It is not uncommon for narcissists to go bankrupt and ruin their businesses.
Lastly, reality is distorted and does not match their grandiose fantasies. Nowhere is the grandiosity gap more evident than where money is involved.
We all have desires that we may obsess about: expensive clothes, sex, gourmet food, or exquisite jewelry. Many narcissists are obsessed with money. They think about how much money they have, how to get more of it, how to keep it away from others, and whom to manipulate to get more- including how to take family members money/inheritance. Money is their substitution for love, warmth, and affection. Having as much money as possible, even stealing it away from family members, is the narcissist’s unwavering goal. Thoughts about obtaining more money are always on the narcissist’s mind. Having an abundance of money makes them feel more entitled and superior to others.
Moneyed narcissists are always looking down on the working class. They don’t seek knowledge, wisdom, inner peace or insight. They seek to achieve their greatest goal-being able to have whatever they desire as well as attracting other people whom they can easily exploit to satisfy their money cravings. A too common situation is for a narcissistic sibling, male or female, to ingratiate the mother or father who is holding the wealth- to become their confidante, their favored and trusted one. This is done over many years and is a well planned scheme. Narcissists use money to help them feel special and superior to others. Status items such as designer clothes, luxury cars, upscale homes, dinners and trips are essential ways through which a narcissist can enhance his ego. Spending money when you have it, is one thing; spending money when you don’t have it, is quite another. A narcissist believes that he is entitled to the best, even if he does not have the money to afford it. He easily fools himself into believing that the money will be there in the future, even if it’s not there right now."
"That bird sells for at Petsmart: for: $499.99 on sale right now, from $549.99. That does not include the cage and all the stuff that goes with it. That is another at least $400."
I had no idea. Piecing and patching my sweet a#*. And from a private pet store. She is a work of art.
Well that disproves anyone who says that TFW "absolved" Jon of child support payments. Not willingly, not for a trade for filming, nothing. I would think she would see those payments as punishment for him leaving her and ending their tv run together. He would have to take her to court and PROVE he saw the kids more often than the court order, and PROVE that he deserves a court order for more custody time. I don't think there's anyway she would give up either the kids or potential income willingly. She sees the kids as her money makers.
Parrots are tropical birds. She will kill it the first time she flings all the windows open in winter to punish the kids for getting sick.
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We keep our house fairly cool in the winter to save energy and on the heating bills (and I can't live in a hot house), but our bird has his own little space heater that keeps him toasty at night. He's happy. When he's out of his cage during the day he doesn't seem to mind it if the room temperature isn't hot. Parrots can adapt, to a cooler environment even though they are tropical birds. But you can't throw a window open in the dead of winter and expect the bird not to feel the effects from a blast of cold air. Kate has no idea what she has gotten herself into. That bird will be gone by Easter.
PA Dutch Mom, I have never seen Bill in person. He has done many ” Blue Collar Comedy Tour” shows and specials on CMT and Comedy Central. He and ” Larry the Cable Guy and Jeff Foxworthy did that tour, very funny! Bill is the original ” here's your sign” guy. He says that stupid people should wear a sign, that way you wouldn't bother them with questions or rely on them for anything. like this one: Bill pulls into gas station with flat tire. Attendant: your tire go flat? Bill: noor, I was driving asking and three other the just swelled up! Attendant: well, the heat will do that. Bill: here's your sign. His delivery is what is so funny!
PA Dutch Mom said... 5 What site has Kate allegedly signed? ----------------------------' I think they are talking about the memorial page thing for Bhappy's husband who passed away a while ago.
Correcting 23 because I actually can spell (curse you auto correct!) Bill: nope, I was driving along and the other three just swelled up! Here's your sign!
PA Dutch Mom, if she really has a bird, I doubt it will last until January 1.
Joy, I enjoy watching Jack, too. Almost inexplicably, I was really into watching The Osbournes. ****** Agreed with your comment! I rolled my eyes when I first saw the commercials for this show years ago, then I happened to watch one episode and got hooked. Although their family life does not resemble mine in most ways, the truth that shined through was that there was love in that household, love and acceptance. And that no matter what, they were there for each other. Sharon is the rock of that family and I don't think her children or her husband have ever doubted that she loves them fiercely, protectively and unconditionally.
I think Sharon was on The Ellen Show a few years back, and for some reason Ellen was showing her pictures of various celebrities for her to comment on. Kate's picture was shown and Sharon made a face and I believe tossed the picture aside. LOL.
Tucker's Mom said... 10 reader and other legal eagles here... is it typical to wait until the 11th hour to ask for an extension, or an extension on an extension? ****** I'd say there's no hard and fast rule, because it really depends on the law firms/attorneys involved. Just like the general population, you have some attorneys who procrastinate on everything. Everything is always done on a last minute basis.
Other attorneys like to be prepared, have things taken care of on time.
Other attorneys have good support staff to make sure things are calendared properly and taken care off before it becomes a last minute problem.
In this case, I can't tell if TFW's attorneys are procrastinators. The timing is part of the problem - it's Thanksgiving week. One or both of the attorneys could be on vacation, or perhaps they have staff on vacation this week. They could also still be trying to settle things behind the scenes. So many factors, that it's hard to tell the exact reason for waiting til the last minute to do something. Thoughts?
Millicent said... I think Sharon was on The Ellen Show a few years back, and for some reason Ellen was showing her pictures of various celebrities for her to comment on. Kate's picture was shown and Sharon made a face and I believe tossed the picture aside. LOL.
I agree with the posters who give the bird a month. We owned a Quaker parrot for many years, but he only bonded w/ me, and constantly tried to bite my husband and son, who was a laid back kid. TFW knows her kids' personalities and has put them and the bird in a situation where they will fail.
PA Dutch Mom said... 5 What site has Kate allegedly signed? ----------------------------' I think they are talking about the memorial page thing for Bhappy's husband who passed away a while ago.
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Just from what I saw a Twitter (I was never involved in all this obviously), this fan accused the haters of harassing her into taking her late husband's memorial page down when it actually had just expired (no pun intended). Plus there is an entry that says "Take care, Kate G." the haters have been pointing out that it was dated way before this fan "met" TFW on twitter, and she's known for telling tall tales.
Millicent, it could be possible that TFMJG attorneys are trying to talk some sense into her. And she can't hear them over the new bird. ” what did you say? I can't hear you, the bird is screeching?” If things proceed, I hope they ask for payment in advance. Because you know TFMJG won't want to pay their bill if they don't know how to help her!
WOS has no clue what she is getting in to. Conure beaks are sharp and they hurt! I'd rather be bit by my Greys than a conure and their beaks are huge in comparison.
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I've been bitten by so many species of parrots, and you're right, a conure bite is nasty. Conures are unpredictable. They can be loving and affectionate one minute, and turn on you the next. Kate doesn't know that bird and the bird doesn't know them. That's why I am so concerned that Kate and the kids are letting that bird ride around on their shoulders. Amazons, too, can do some serious damage, but the worst bite I ever got was from a Greenwing Macaw (the pirate's parrot). He got me in the arm, and I spurted blood, dripping a nice long trail until I could get pieced and patched.
Why in the heck did she get a bird? She just doesn't seem like a bird person considering that birds require a lot of care, affection, socialization...not to mention the mess they make.
Millicent said... 15 ''....If this were another blog or website, I might respond to your comment with a different point of view. My remarks might then stir up further remarks from others, and it could turn unpleasant.
Not telling you or anyone else what to say or where to say it -- only that I'm well aware that posters here come from all sorts of political and sociological backgrounds, with a whole variety of strongly held opinions, and those conversations can often get quite heated. Do we really want to go there, over a discussion on how we view people who access the social safety net?'' ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ AMEN! Admin asked us to leave politics off this blog, and I think that was a very wise decision. I totally agree with your comment about doing the same with ''politics, social viewpoints, and other hot button topics.''
OrangeCrusher1 said... 19 "That bird sells for at Petsmart: for: $499.99 on sale right now, from $549.99. That does not include the cage and all the stuff that goes with it. That is another at least $400." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ That's crazy, she just spend around a $1000 for a pet???? I mean, if you have the money, patience and obsession for birds, okay go for it, but she doesn't have any of those 3! And seriously, if you are looking for a pet for your 8! kids I don't think a bird is the most logical fit in a busy, loud & crazy household. Get a freaking cat where you can cuddle with, small dog or even a bunny. Those kids will loose attention for that bird real fast, it sits on your shoulder but you cant cuddle or hug it. And if Kate ever cries "poor me" again.........
She won't get rid of Shoka. He's a guard dog. I think she is nuts to get that bird. She acts like she looooves the bird so much, but it's a lie. Just a lame attempt to get some internet buzz.
Reading from bottom, just wanted to wish those in the U.S a Happy Thanksgiving this Thursday, and hope the weather doesn't ruin many of you who are travelling. We had ours last month, we traveled to Regina to be with our daughters and grandkids, a trip just over 2 hours. We got back home, and just as we were parking in the driveway, a tire fell off the jeep! Someone up there is keeping an eye on us, if it had happened on the highway, we could have killed someone, or injured ourselves badly. Always check the lug nuts before you leave your house! My husband married me when I was 19 and he was 31, and had our honeymoon driving across the U.S, until we got to Seattle. I bought a beautiful calendar at a store beside the ocean, near our hotel, called the Edgewater, right on the water. Then when Fall came along, after we were nearly finished harvest that first year of marriage, people began talking about Thanksgiving. I thought it was a little early for Thanksgiving planning because MY CALENDER said it was next month, in November! Boy, was my face ever red, for a very long time!!!
Mel said... 150 ________________ I'm glad TWF posted a picture of only her and the bird. Leave the children out of the pictures with the bird. There is no need to contiune thrusting them in the spotlight just to post with the bird to please the public viewers. They need a break. Thanks.
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Suzy, I think you must have mis-read/misunderstood my post. I was responding to someone who said: She post a picture of the bird on her shoulder that she could have taken in the pet store. Why not post pictures of the kids looking at the bird or holding the bird?
I meant in my response that she posted a pic of herself with the bird (and not a pic of the kids with the bird) was because this is all about her.
I did NOT mean that she *should* have posted a pic of the kids with the bird. And I don't think the original poster meant that a pic of the kids should have been posted either. Personally I wish she would stop posting pics of anything to do with her family and let them retreat to a private life.
IMO, the OP's point was that TFW posted a pic of herself, because we all know that everyone was just a-waitin' to see a pic of TFW with the new purchase. And I was agreeing with him/her.
I am in total agreement that those poor kids deserve their privacy, and have always deserved their privacy; that has been my stance from day one.
Just from what I saw a Twitter (I was never involved in all this obviously), this fan accused the haters of harassing her into taking her late husband's memorial page down when it actually had just expired (no pun intended). Plus there is an entry that says "Take care, Kate G." the haters have been pointing out that it was dated way before this fan "met" TFW on twitter, and she's known for telling tall tales.
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So why doesn't this fan ask Kate to confirm that she actually signed that page? Wouldn't that put an end to the accusations that this fan was the one who signed Kate's name?
Always check the lug nuts before you leave your house!
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I was reading very fast, and I thought this said, "always check your nuts before you leave the house."
It's been a long day of online shopping, getting fantastic deals (many things free after rebates and codes were applied) and I didn't even have to use Kate's coupon site! I wonder how that thing is working out for her. We know Milo loves it, but nobody else seems to comment on it.
Today, Hannah spent a sick day at home(not contagious)&Zorro spent the day on her lap &shoulder, watching tv&keeping her company
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If there are any fans who read here, or anyone on Twitter who isn't blocked, could they please tell Kate NOT to let that bird sit on shoulders? I know she is reluctant to take advice, but I have seen the damage that can be done to necks and shoulders from bird bites. I've had quite a few years of experience with parrots, and I hate to see anything happen to those kids.
Here's a thought. Maybe she's hoping to spark speculation that, since she's piecin and patchin, the only way she could have afforded the parrot is if Jon had to pay her to settle the lawsuit.
"Today, Hannah spent a sick day at home(not contagious)&Zorro spent the day on her lap &shoulder, watching tv&keeping her company"
Oh look, another 'not-a-nanny' for the kids. She'll do anything to not interact with her children. And how does Nurse TFW know a sick child is not contagious, but sick enough to be home, nice putting the new bird in the zone all day. But then again, who believes anything she says?
Any surprise that one child, one particular child, got to spend the day at home with the new bird? Divide and conquer all the way. She is just so... odd.
Oh hmmm, yawn, another boring story from Kate. Look at me I have a new (fill in the blank). So what. Who cares.
What's bad this time is that involves another living being. She'll play with it for a while until she's done...on to the next thing. In the meantime someone has to take care of the bird. Calling the Nanny or one of the children to do it because Kate won't do it, she can't be bothered..
Kate has the attention span of a nat. Whatever pops into her head or catches her eye or someone else has, she wants. Doesn't matter if should have it or needs it. She plays with it for a short period then on to the next thing.
As a responsible pet owner this just makes me angry. Don't adopt or buy any pet unless you understand the pet's traits or think long term how an addition to the family structure will work. Stop and think before getting a pet.
It should be Shoka keeping H company while she's sick. He should be curled up on the couch with her, keeping her warm and comforting her. I am sure he is freezing his butt off outside or alone in the basement. Poor dog.
https://companionparrotonline.com/shoulder.html ***** Wow, I had no idea! A new pet always needs to be acclimated slowly and misunderstandings and inability to communicate effectively is to be expected.
Well, it seems Milo rushed to do some readin' up on this bird of Kate's. She must have missed the part about possibly biting, because she didn't mention it!
Free Shoka said... 53 It should be Shoka keeping H company while she's sick. He should be curled up on the couch with her, keeping her warm and comforting her. I am sure he is freezing his butt off outside or alone in the basement. Poor dog.
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Yep. I got a virus (probably noro but at that time in the 70s called the stomach flu) in 7th grade. I got to lay in my parents' bed because the bathroom was right there. I would get the chills and my dog would cuddle next to me. Then I would get up to get sick and get really hot and the dog would move to the floor. I would get the chills and he would come back up. All. Day. Long. He was an Irish Setter. #DogsRule
Localyocul: Oh, that one is not too young for cramps. Though if that were the case, my mother would have given me something and to school I go.
Tuckersmom: the kids have a 5 day weekend, they are off tomorrow. I'm sure Kate will be working them too. So, maybe this bird was for that special favorite?
Is H the one with migraines? That's not contagious. However when I was a freshman one of my dormmates had severe migraines. She got a single room because of it. When she got an attack, she had to stain in her room with the shades down and earplugs in.
Several have posted making Stove Top Stuffing for T-day. I checked my email earlier and I receive Top Secret Recipes from Todd Wilburn who clones our favorite recipes so we can make them at home. Today it was Stove Top Stuffing. Here is the link, will be available through Dec. 2nd.
Where it says to sit the cut up celery out under direct light to dry, I would put cheesecloth or maybe a paper towel because of flies or one of those screened domes.
getofftwitter said... 58 Localyocul: Oh, that one is not too young for cramps. Though if that were the case, my mother would have given me something and to school I go
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Me too. Had to have a fever, intractable coughing or such. And if you were too sick to go to school you were too sick to watch tv. She never threw us on the laundry room floor though. She made up the couch and we got ginger ale and ice chips and special TLC. Since we were really sick if we were actually staying home.
I don't like retail pet outlets, but I do hope that pet shop has a return policy for all the critters if things don't work out at their new home. Even the traumatized animals.
If Zorro is six months old he was probably very used to his surroundings by now and all the sounds of the other animals. I can't stand the thought of what the future holds for that poor bird if that idiot keeps him.
Sleepless @46 - Wow! I never realized that parrots had to be trained. I'll stick to bulldogs.
When I was going through chemo (13 years ago) my previous bully would get up on the couch next to me with his head in my lap. I can't even begin to tell you how comforting that was. After the chemo was over and I was fine he never did it again. He instinctively knew what I needed and he was there for me. I could hug him and just cry into his fur when I needed to. I didn't have to be "strong" for him. I can't feature doing the same thing with a bird. You're right localyocul #dogsdorule
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Shoka kill some chickens at one time? He hunts, kills, and eats small animals. If this bird is ever out of its cage, then TFW better make sure Shoka isn't in the house at the same time. If he is, then bye bye birdie.
I saw a story today about a tiger at Steve Irwin's zoo biting a trainer in the neck. The trainer was airlifted out with puncture wounds to his neck from the tiger's teeth. It is appalling that Terri puts her kids out there, has them interacting with dangerous creatures at the zoo, to entertain the masses. What if that had been Bindi or Robert? These fame-obsessed mothers have no regard for their children's well-being, no protective instinct, when it comes to getting attention and money from the public. Sickening.
Layla said... 67 ***** Yes, Shoka has killed chickens. I feel strongly that Kate should never get a bird, or a small dog, or a cat while Shoka is on the property. Shoka is probably a lovely dog, and so was Nala, according to Robert, but some dogs hunt prey and kill, and that's just that. I too also saw the article about the Irwin's zoo tiger attacking his trainer. I found the photos of Kate posing with a tiger at the zoo very disturbing, as well as the photos of all the kids with an elephant. Wild animals are just that, and it's not a matter of if someone will be attacked, but when.
I feel strongly that Kate should never get a bird, or a small dog, or a cat while Shoka is on the property. Shoka is probably a lovely dog, and so was Nala, according to Robert, but some dogs hunt prey and kill, and that's just that.
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My dogs have never bothered with the bird, but of course they are small lap dogs and are not aggressive and have never killed anything or anyone! They are actually kind of afraid of the bird, although they do come running when the bird asks if they want to go outside.
Kate doesn't know this, but birds are pretty darn smart and can open their cage door and the doors to their food dishes. They can pick locks. I hope she doesn't come home one day to find the bird has done just that, and Shoka is in the house. That will be the end (literally) of the bird.
https://companionparrotonline.com/shoulder.html ***** Wow, I had no idea! A new pet always needs to be acclimated slowly and misunderstandings and inability to communicate effectively is to be expected.
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Obviously, neither does Kate. Looks like her research was the hit and miss kind.
They are actually kind of afraid of the bird, although they do come running when the bird asks if they want to go outside. ****** Oh, that's so funny. When I talk with DH on the phone, he's on speaker and my dogs just don't get the whole disembodied voice thing. No reaction at all!
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 11m @Kateplusmy8 Do U have 2cover Zorro's cage w/towel or small blanket at nite? I heard they will chirp all nite if U don't?
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Milo, conures don't chirp. This isn't a sparrow. Conures yell, they squawk, and they are extremely loud. I've had some that freaked with a cover over the cage, and some that wouldn't sleep without a cover. Depends on the bird.
Localyocul: Same here, my mom: unless you have a fever, threw up, or broke something or had dental work done, off to school. School was very important to my parents.
PA Dutch mom: lucky kids!
Rhymes with witch: I was not being sarcastic, just stating a fact, that a lot of 9 year girls, become young ladies, and since that tup is 9, it is possible that is why she was home, I was answering someone else's post. And I never refered to any 6 year as a bitch, where are you getting this from? Where did I say that? Show me?
Sleepless in Seattle: My birds do the same. When it's about 9 pm-10pm, they make a rukus in their cages, and that is a sign to me they want to go to bed and be covered and the light out.
And I never refered to any 6 year as a bitch, where you getting this from? Where did I say that? Show me?
I apologize for not being clearer. There was at least one blog 7 years ago calling one child a bitch. That was not in any way a reference to you. Old timers would remember. I sometimes forget that not always everyone is. Apologies.
As for your other point, we have no knowledge about these children (and we shouldn't) except the bs that Kate puts out there and speculation about them really disturbs me. They deserve as much privacy as possible.
Oh great, something else for Milo to ask questions about, special. So anything about Thanksgiving coming out of TFW's twitter world? Or is this bird purchase a smokescreen for another non-holiday. Maybe she's turning the pumpkins that were never carved into pies. Nah, that's a project for next week. Why rush into anything.
I know this is totally off topic, but I'm thinking of signing up for an account with mint.com. Right now, I download my transactions directly from my bank and credit card accounts. But I'm wondering if it might be easier to use mint.com
I appreciate your opinion on the site.
Again, I apologize for going off topic. But honestly, the topic of Kate's bird is so boring. Is this really what she's about now? It's pitiful.
IMO, the OP's point was that TFW posted a pic of herself, because we all know that everyone was just a-waitin' to see a pic of TFW with the new purchase. And I was agreeing with him/her. ****************************************************************************** Mel and Suzy, I am the original poster. I am sorry I didn't make myself clear in my post. I did not mean that Kate should post pictures of the children with the bird. My point was that in the past to "prove" she had gotten something (expensive meat slicer) or spent time doing something (baking millions of cookies) she has always posted a picture in her home or with the children involved. The pictures were obviously in her home so they were easily verified that yes, she did this or bought that. My point in my post was that I think Kate had that picture taken at the pet store and made a post about it. I do not think she bought the bird. Her usual smoke and screen. Does that clarify things? I especially do not need to see pictures of those precious children. As a side not, having had infertility issues and then blessed twice with children I cannot wrap my mind around the way she treats the children. I would die (as I am sure everyone with children that post here) for my children.
WOS flits from interest to interest faster than some people change their unnerwears.. 'she' created her website, either some of the tabs were never started(seems one of those was faith,lol), or not updated; 'she' wrote a cookbook but wouldn't publicize her promotional tour; 'she' started a coupon blog, and hasn't mentioned it in ages; what happened to menu mondays or throwback thursdays? what happened to running, the yogurt maker, break maker, meat slicer? I'd love to see her go on a morning show now, and answer questions regarding dropping the lawsuit and the current one with an author wanting to out her journal. WOS is at the end of the road. And everyone called it, she would hang herself. And she did that 'dark and stormy night' by throwing her journal in a trash heap.
On another subject, wonder who has the kiddos for the holiday? If it's WOS, there will be no other family there, no aunts, uncles, cousins. That's really sad. If they are with their father,maybe it will be different..maybe WOS purchased the bird so she'd have someone to talk to. LOL
I apologize for not being clearer. There was at least one blog 7 years ago calling one child a bitch. That was not in any way a reference to you. Old timers would remember. I sometimes forget that not always everyone is. Apologies. ******** Well, let me tell you, little whippersnappers...! I'm not sure that it was one blog in particular that targeted Mady when she was very young, rather, what I noted YEARS ago was that you could Google Mady Gosselin and it would autofill with 'b*tch' and 'brat'. Awful. I place the blame squarely on Jon+Kate for that. TLC production makes story arcs for each episode. The 'cast' of reality tv shows are characters and there are good guys and bad guys, protagonists and antagonists and most of all conflict and resolution. From reading Robert's book, it appears Kate (and Jon?) were able to view the episodes before airing (and give feedback/request a change), so how Mady was portrayed was given the stamp of approval by her mother, at least. When changes were requested, according to emails in the book, Jen took the concerns to Julie, and they capitulated.
And there it is again, rewriting history. Did she LOOK like she enjoys birds, animals...LIFE in general?? She was annoyed as hell (when isn't she?) What a stupid stupid decision. And if they get rid of the bird, no biggie for her. That's her ammo. It's the kids who keep having things taken away, constantly!
Do we know if Kate and Jon owned a copy of the book To Train Up a Child? I saw a story on it on Anderson Cooper 360 and they mention a wooden spoon in the story.
Re: Hoffman's latest post The red spanker? Wooden spoon in van? Papert towel cardboard? Wasn't it "Blair" from Facts of Life who also followed this "method"?
I think she'd have a little more credibility if she at least had mentioned a few times how much she adores birds and wants a bird for a pet. Otherwise it sounds like an impulsive buy, and you should never, ever buy any living thing on impulse.
I know this is totally off topic, but I'm thinking of signing up for an account with mint.com. Right now, I download my transactions directly from my bank and credit card accounts. But I'm wondering if it might be easier to use mint.com
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Mint is good IF all your accounts will upload to it. Some of mine don't because some sites have such security that they won't go on it. Therefore to me it's useless unless I can see everything.
I usually am all for helpful programs like that but for finances I prefer a simple excel spreadsheet and keep track of it manually. It's more reliable. I'm not Bill Gates so there's not much to keep up with!
Barb In Nebraska said... 91 Do we know if Kate and Jon owned a copy of the book To Train Up a Child? I saw a story on it on Anderson Cooper 360 and they mention a wooden spoon in the story.
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I've thought for some time that she followed their teachings. She was constantly using the word "obey" to her kids which I found odd.
The book "To Train Up a Child" has been embraced by many fundamentalist Christian parents. It advocates raising children to obey without question, through spankings that begin when they are babies.
She was constantly using the word "obey" to her kids which I found odd.
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YES! I'm not sure i ever once mentioned this, but I always found the way she constantly ordered the kids to "obey" was such a cold and dicatatorship-like way to talk to them. They are three year olds, not soldiers in Hitler's youth. There are so many other nicer ways to say the same thing. Things like, Please listen to Mommy. Please do what Mommy asks you to do. Please behave yourself. Mind your p's and q's.
OBEY is just so firm and cold. Her relation to these children has always rung very odd.
I remember reading Kate's 'cure' for H's migraine. Give her Tylenol which she would promptly throw up ( ? how would it work then?) and send her to bed for more sleep. Makes no sense. Hopefully if she still has them, she is on an effective medication.
I tend to agree with the ' favored' child syndrome keeping H home though.If it were cramps surely Kate would announce that for all to know!
From Roberts latest post "A little fasting is good training. If you get a child who is particularly finicky and only eats a limited diet, then feed him mainly what he doesn’t like until he likes it."
Didnt TFW say that if they don't like something she gives them more of it to eat?
My guess is she bought the bird because the kids will be with Jon for thanksgiving and with the shinny ne "toy" at home they'll be clam morning to get back to it. Just another way to ruin the holiday for Jon.
Rhymes with witch: Apology accepted. Another post & I and several others, were tryin to figure out why any parent would keep a kid home, when they are going to be off for 4 days of school. And what are parents did with us. We all know Kate would pull her kids out of school in a minute to do any TV or filming. She could care less if they get educated. Cause if she did, knowing the kids were born early, and as we all know, children born too early are behind, Kate could have hired, people or put the kids in a program, to get them caught up. Kate didn't cause, being on TV was more important, that is why the kids are 9 and in 3rd grade, instead of being 9 in 4th grade. I do agree that they do need their privacy, and Kate then needs to shut up about them period. As to the one that is home, any child can say I don't feel good and stay home. They might not want to go to school, because, of a test, or other kids teasing them. And with kates 8, I would not be surprised if that were the case. Every time Kate does some goofy thing,or says something odd, the kids pay for it at school. They get teased. The school can stand on it's head, make new rules,and it will still happen. That is what Jon said, is going on.
As for being isolated, they are. They live far from their friends. And what we know of Kate, Kate probably picks their friends. Look how many kids came to their birthday parties, over the years. Was the whole class invited? No, just a few kids. At their school, the max number of kids per class is 13-15, per teacher. These are small classes. When I went to school we had 30-40 kids per teacher. Big difference. Kate is a control freak, just short of being a helicopter parent. Plus, I would not be surprise if anyone that comes into that house, be it child or adult, has to sign a discloser paper, or whatever it is called, after all can't tell anyone what went on in that house. Also, yes the kids are at school, it's probably the best place for them, but, when Kate thinks it's a good idea to spy on, critize and tattle on one another, don't you think that carries over to school. I would not want to hang around with the class tattle-tale. The fighting did. I would not be surprised if Kate gets called once a month to school for one of the kids fighting.
Well, I have to get off, do some shopping, before it becomes a zoo, out there.
EVERYONE: HAVE A NICE & SAFE & HAPPY THANKSGIVING!
To Raise up A Child has been discussed here before. This is just one more example of people using God's name to justify, sanitize and cover up a crime. This book has been discussed here before, due to the many similarities between it's message and Kate's discipline methods.
Lisa Whelchel's (Blair from Facts of Life) book focuses on humiliation punishment, like blindfolding a child for an hour if she rolls her eyes or making kids eat dinner with boxing gloves on. Books like this should just be called "How to Reserve a Lifetime Therapy Appointment for Your Child." Sick, sick, sick, sick.
Tucker's Mom said... 195 Joy, I enjoy watching Jack, too. Almost inexplicably, I was really into watching The Osbournes. I don't know if there is a more dysfunctional family on tv! But their dysfunction had nothing to do with disrespect or not loving one another dearly, as we saw with Kate's shows. The O's desperately love each other and while Jack and Kelly showed major signs of drug and entitlement problems, somehow, they've turned into exceptional adults who are clearly talented. I remember watching a special that Jack did shortly after their reality tv show ended. Jack had become an addict, was fat, out of shape and headed for trouble when he got his act together. Jack's show was about him taking on extremely difficult physical challenges around the globe, and ended with him climbing El Capitan, so he's no stranger to taking on challenges. Anyway, there's something endearing about this addiction-addled family and then there's Jon and Kate, who burst onto the scene as rather milquetoast Christians and guess who I like a whole lot more? Yes, give me Ozzie and his brood any day.
________________________ I recall an episode where ozzy's birthday was to be celebrated in a hotel restaurant. The kids and the mom are upstairs in a room and have asked for a large sheet of tin foil to be sent up so jack could gift wrap a stack of cds for a his dad. They are running late and it seems even the camera guy is trying to walk ahead and leave the room in an effort to hurry them out of the room.
When a hotel worker brings the large sheet of tin foil to the door, Kelly, Jack and Sharon are all ignoring the cameras and are all thanking the hotel worker. They are practically speaking at the same time when then thank him.
It says a lot about the way you treat employees, service employees, waiters, doormen, hotel employees, tour guides, housekeepers.
Formerly Duped said... 98 I remember reading Kate's 'cure' for H's migraine. Give her Tylenol which she would promptly throw up ( ? how would it work then?) and send her to bed for more sleep. Makes no sense. Hopefully if she still has them, she is on an effective medication. ******* I don't remember Kate discussion that "cure", but wow if true! When I suffered from migraines, the headache would 'crescendo' with me vomiting, and relief and utter exhaustion sleep would ensue. But, to give Tylenol because you know it's going to make the child puke is bizarre. There are far better meds nowadays!
"My guess is she bought the bird because the kids will be with Jon for thanksgiving and with the shinny ne "toy" at home they'll be clam morning to get back to it. Just another way to ruin the holiday for Jon."
This is exactly what I think. The timing is suspect, as is the lack of twitting about turkey day 'memories'. She is transparent.
Wishing everyone south of the Canadian border a wonderful Thanksgiving.
I find the Pearls and their logic nauseating and frightening. And for the record, I'm a Christian and a homeschool mom.
Here's a snippet from the No Greater Joy Facebook page, posted by a "fan." Swatting a baby who pulls hair? This woman even says she knows the baby doesn't do it intentionally. And her own daughter "learned to associate the STICK with the stairs." Ugh. The self-righteousness is appalling. I, too, thought of Kate when I read about the Pearls and the wooden spoon.
My kids were well behaved because (I think) they respected us. They have never feared my husband and me. FEAR isn't love or respect.
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"Do you like it when someone pulls your hair? No you don't. It is the same when a baby does it and the child can be taught not to. No, the baby does not do it intentionally but when they continue to do so they must be redirected and a little smack teaches them not to do so. They learn that the training swat goes hand in hand with the fact that they touched that wirey stuff on a persons face or head, the hair. It feels very different from skin and they learn that difference and learn to associate that difference with a stinging from the little swat, hence they learn not to touch the hair. The same goes for little ***. She learned to associate the stick with the stairs and a slight stinging sensation."
I'm not much of a bird person. I should say, I'm not crazy about having a bird as a pet. I guess what grosses me out about birds is their bathroom habits. They will go anywhere, anyhow, no matter where they are (indoors or outdoors), whether they are sitting on someone's shoulder or sitting on a tree branch.
For me, give me a big fluffy dog or a kitty. I just never had any affection for birds as pets. However, I do love to watch birds in the wild, especially hummingbirds and cardinals (we put up feeders every spring for the little guys).
But this is what I find surprsing about "Neat Freak Kate", that she would have a bird, outside of it's cage considering that they are rarely litterbox trained.
I usually am all for helpful programs like that but for finances I prefer a simple excel spreadsheet and keep track of it manually. It's more reliable. I'm not Bill Gates so there's not much to keep up with!
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Thanks for the advice Admin. I'm like you, I download everything to an Excel spreadsheet and keep track of everything that way. I created an account in Mint and tested it using one of my bank accounts, and I like the way it downloads everything so quickly. But I'm leery of having all my passwords in one place. There's a lot of good review of Mint, but I'll probably stick with excel spreadsheet.
Sometimes it's hard for me to embrace new technology. :)
Our family follows the Christian faith, but we have always viewed "How to Train Up Your Child" as a manual for child abuse. I would encourage all parents, instead, to read "Easy To Love, Difficult to Discipline", "Managing Emotional Mayhem" and "Becoming the Parent You Want To Be."
"My guess is she bought the bird because the kids will be with Jon for thanksgiving and with the shinny ne "toy" at home they'll be clam morning to get back to it. Just another way to ruin the holiday for Jon."
This is exactly what I think. The timing is suspect, as is the lack of twitting about turkey day 'memories'. She is transparent.
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I have no idea what her motives are here, but I can guess. And this would be CLASSIC obsessed parental alienator behavior. The other parent is never allowed to have their visitation time free of manipulation and influence. They are never allowed to just have a great visit with Mom's blessing and see you when it's over. The parental alienator always must do SOMETHING to try to interfere with that, and it can be simple as buying something fun and exciting to draw the kids back home early. Again it's not Christmas yet, it's not Thanksgiving. Why get this NOW? Just in time for Jon's Thanksgiving visit? Hmm.
I think the migraine treatment was discussed in I Just Want You to Know. She said this was the reason Hannah had her own bedroom at first, and why Alexis was banished to the basement.
reader and other legal eagles here... is it typical to wait until the 11th hour to ask for an extension, or an extension on an extension?
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I can only speak for state court but it really depends. Sometimes if you know you'll need an extension and ask for it early, you will have the judge say well who knows where you will be at on the 27th let's wait until then before I decide to grant this and you let me know where you stand then. So some just want to see where you're at on the due date. Others appreciate more warning especially other counsel. I imagine it's similar in federal court, it's important to know your judge's preferences and whether you want to be kind to other counsel and be strategic.
Almost inexplicably, I was really into watching The Osbournes. I don't know if there is a more dysfunctional family on tv! But their dysfunction had nothing to do with disrespect or not loving one another dearly, as we saw with Kate's shows.
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The Osbornes were better parents than I thought. They may be different but they listened to their children and supported them and treated them with respect. Their kids clearly adore them in return. And they respected Amy's decision not to go on T.V.
It says a lot about the way you treat employees, service employees, waiters, doormen, hotel employees, tour guides, housekeepers.
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Jack was only 13 or so when the show started and he still had a nanny. She was really cool and nice, very comfortable with them, and they were very nice to her in return. She was like another sister, not the hired help or pool girl.
How does she know it's not contagious and why is that important to this tweet? Huh? She is an odd bird who now has a bird. Two birds!
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If it were a migraine, or a sinus infection or tummy ache from eating something she shouldn't have, then Kate would probably know it's not contagious. Why is it important to the tweet? Who knows how her mind works.
I feel kinda sorry for Mr. Rushie that he's left holding the hag. It looks like Razzy has left the building, since his name was not on Kate's dismissal of Jon's suit. Kate has so much to lose and to be revealed if she persists with this suit against Robert. Risking all this in the name of blind revenge doesn't seem very "protective" of her children.
Formerly Duped said... 103 I think "Blair" and possibly "DJ" from Full House and her brother Kirk Cameron from Growing Pains, as well. ------------------------------------------
I did a google search because I couldn't remember Candace Cameron ever talking about that book, and here's what I found:
She co-authored a book called "Shepherding a Child's Heart", which does recommend spanking in certain situations. It is not the same book as To Train Up a Child. This is not to say she didn't recommend the book, but I don't think she did.
As a side note, I do not mean to get into a debate of spanking vs. not spanking. I'm just saying there's spanking which is a hot button debatable issue, and there's clear child abuse. Candace Cameron has never advocated child abuse.
Do we know if Kate and Jon owned a copy of the book To Train Up a Child? I saw a story on it on Anderson Cooper 360 and they mention a wooden spoon in the story. ****** I have never heard that Kate was a follower of the Pearls, or this book. I have heard that the Duggars do use some of the methods suggested in this book, and do know the Pearls and consider them, if not friends, at least people who share similar beliefs.
From what I've read, that book and the Pearls are vile. There have been deaths of children attributed to the methods outlined in that book. It's basically a "how to" book for cruel and unusual punishment of children.
I find Kate reprehensible in so many ways, but the Pearls actually are worse.
you have some attorneys who procrastinate on everything. Everything is always done on a last minute basis.
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Yes agree some are undoubtedly procrastinating but often extensions are for very good strategic reason. For instance a client might want time to make decisions or find evidence or talk things over, or they might be trying to drag things out to wear the other party down.
So in the case of asking for say a 7 day extension if you ask for it on the last day you would get 7 days from then. But if you ask for it a few days before they might start counting the 7 days from then. So in that sense it's a good idea to wait until 4:15 on the last day of filing to ask for an extension.
The Osbornes were better parents than I thought. They may be different but they listened to their children and supported them and treated them with respect. Their kids clearly adore them in return. And they respected Amy's decision not to go on T.V. ******** I didn't even know they had a sister, Amy, until either the end of the show or sometime after the show. I can not remember her even being mentioned. Another big difference between Kate and Sharon/Ozzie. Kate has always maintained that in ANYONE did not want to film, they wouldn't. But I've seen the contract and I've read what Kate obligated those children to in the contract, and it's nothing short of child labor. By Kate's own account, on the Wendy Williams show, the children all wondered if they could still live in their home and go to their school if they didn't film. How the hell are 7 year olds even aware of the finances? Because Kate's told them that the show is their life and their life is the show. I've always found that mantra rather disturbing, but Kate seemed to wear it as a badge of honor.
with the bird not garnering that much press attention, i guess the next pet she buys will be an elephant.....maybe soon she will have a menagerie to rival michael jacksons zoo, with a zebra, tiger, bubbles the monkey, etc....
Kate, by saying Hannah had nothing contagious, was letting us know two things: She was telling us that: 1.) she is a responsible pet owner by determining that what Hannah has is not "catchable" by the bird, and 2.) that she is an ignorant pet owner because only very, very few human illnesses are transmittable to a bird--colds and flu not being among them.
And did anyone else have a "What the hay" moment last night on Dancing With The Stars when the cameras panned across Kendra in the audience? I even had to do that instant rewind to make sure it wasn't Kate. Kate has definitely achieved genericity (genericness?? a state of looking way too much like a bunch of other people anyway!)
It is funny to me to read the debate about the word "obey". I use it with my children. Although, I have explained to them what it means. I didn't grow up with parents who used that word though so I have no idea why I started :)
I guess most words can be harsh when not taught with kind, gentle words in a loving environment such as mine (not to brag but I am NOTHING like TFW!)
sparkle said: I feel kinda sorry for Mr. Rushie that he's left holding the hag. ***** LOL! I think you meant "left holding the bag," but the end result is much more appropriate (and hilarious).
I remember the episode of TFW and when they brought home the two dogs. And she made the biggest deal when one of the pups peed on their basement rug. She was ready to send them back. I can only imagine how she would act if the bird pooped. And it will happen!
Perhaps this was already metioned. When I read the article about how to 'train up' a child, it instantly reminded me of when Kate told Jon to 'happy up' Mady. I always felt like that meant to smack her into submission.
Things that happen on Fridays or just before a long weekend tend to not get much press coverage. Mondays are the best days to make announcements if you want your story all over the news. Filing this lawsuit on a Monday was no accident. It didn't work because the mainstream press doesn't care, but it was no accident.
maybe soon she will have a menagerie to rival michael jacksons zoo, with a zebra, tiger, bubbles the monkey, etc.... ******************************************************************* Well she won't be too long catching up with his plastic surgeries.
I didn't know they had a sister either until Amy showed up on 20 20 talking about how respectful her parents were of her being off tv. I believe she talked about her desire to make it on her own without a show like that. Her parents gave her her space to do that.
reader said... 143 Nothing yet on the docket today. Is everyone making pies?! :) ****** Turkey Day prep today: Made sourdough boule- it's going to be the stuffing after cubed and toasted Slow Cooker Cheesecake with Raspberry Swirl Cranberry Orange Compote Prepped the brussel sprouts for oven roasting Also, making chicken stock from the carcass from a Costco rotisserie chicken... ugh...
Well there blows the Jon agreed to testify against Robert theory out of the water.
We called it, she was just working on the dismissal terms probably didn't want to give up with prejudice to Robert too but probably finally has to resign herself to giving in.
Bottom line she thought she would huff and puff and blow their house down because at the end of the day the biggest bully is her. And when Robert and Jon finally said enough is enough and blew back with hurricane force winds, she ran away crying like a little girl. Because at the end of the day most bullies are cowards.
Voluntary Dismissal? Is this for sure? I wonder how that Ziggy sheep is going to spin this. She insisted that Jon got TFW to drop the charges by agreeing to roll over on Hoffman. But if TFW dismisses the charges against Hoffman...hmmm, maybe she'll claim that Robert agreed to roll over on the unnamed Does? No wonder TFW is being so chipper on Twitter. Buying this bird was another of her classic deflection techniques. Pay no attention to that pesky lawsuit! Look at my pretty new bird instead! She'll be spewing cute kids sayings and bird stories until this lawsuit story blows over. How long until Robert re-publishes?
Does too, without prejudice (which means she could sue again for some other reason).
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The does being without prejudice makes perfect sense. Robert and Jon don't care if she wants to keep that option, it doesn't affect them. How will the sheeple spin this? They can't say anyone did it in exchange for testimony, they can't say this was for the kids because Robert is not their father and if she were concerned about the kids she never would have filed in the first place.
I can't wait to hear this. I hope they're not busy making pies too. I just did a Sam's Club run and now I'm available to hear this, spin away!
Kate? What a massive, massive mistake and waste of money. But for the sake of your precious children, thank God it's over. So who put you up to this and are you upset at them? Perhaps you should direct your anger toward them.
Btw, my response (currently 150) to Ellie is a phone fluke. All that was supposed to post were the last 2 sentences. This is worse than autocorrect! Sorry. :(
Were the charges against Robert dropped with prejudice or without? All I saw mentioned was that the charges against the Does were dismissed without prejudice, but what about Robert?
Hahaha, someone posted a link to this blog on TFW's twitter, and mentioned the lawsuit. Then someone else mentioned the dismissal. You know the sheep are all flocking here to see what's going on. Sad that they have to get their information from someone here because their queen won't tell them what's going on. And they're not smart enough to figure out where to get the information themselves.
What a great way to start the holiday weekend. Now, to finish up at work, pick up wine & go home to make corn pudding & cranberry salsa for dinner tomorrow. Then I'm cooking the whole dinner on Friday for different side of the family.
Happy Thanksgiving, Robert! And the news is all about Thanksgiving travel so this item will be buried. TFMJG won't be making a ” why I dropped the lawsuit that was made up in my head” tour.
All I can say is...what a freakin waste of money....she could have gotten more plastic surgery with that money. Or another animal to fill up her empty life.
Millicent said... 136 sparkle said: I feel kinda sorry for Mr. Rushie that he's left holding the hag. ***** LOL! I think you meant "left holding the bag," but the end result is much more appropriate (and hilarious). ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Oh no, I totally meant to write hag! I gained a tremendous amount of respect for Mr. Rushie for his comments about personal opinion. He seems like a nice guy, I suspect he's taken a raft of crap from TFW over all of this.
Super news about the dismissal! As everyone said, the sheeple spin from the last dismissal was priceless- what could they possibly say about this!!!! I'm on the edge of my seat with anticipation!
Wednesday night before Thanksgiving. Four days off before the real news get back in full swing. An absolute dumping ground for bad news. That is classic Kate, trying to trick people with gimmicks and snack oil like dumping bad news on the quietest news day of the year. Well Kate, we're onto your games this time. This won't be dumped, not here at least.
You know for fun sometime we should do a talk like you're typing on a too small keyboard day like Franky. I think our Franky would have a good sense of humor about that. :) And she could interpret!
You know what's interesting is Kate never backs down. What happened? Who talked some sense into her? It would have had to be someone she really respects like Steve. Either that or she got a big bill and they actually demanded payment. I imagine all these games aren't as fun when they cost you tens of thousands of dollars.
MAYDAY MAYDAY.... MAN YOUR STATIONS.... STAY ALERT FOR OFFICIAL INSTRUCTIONS FROM OUR LEADER... REPEAT.. THIS IS NOT A DRILL.. AS OUTLINED IN THE MANUAL- DENY, DENY, DENY UNTIL FURTHER INSTRUCTIONS ARE GIVEN... FABRICATE IF YOU MUST, DO NOT VALIDATE THE OFFICIAL COURT DOCKET OR ADMIT DEFEAT... MAYDAY, MAYDAY!!!!!!!!
Thanks, Willowmom! I wonder whether TFW tried to get Robert to agree to drop any possible counterclaims against her with prejudice, and in return she would drop the charges against him with prejudice. No way would Robert play her little games. TFW better hope Robert doesn't sue her for this ridiculous little stunt she pulled.
MAYDAY MAYDAY.... MAN YOUR STATIONS.... STAY ALERT FOR OFFICIAL INSTRUCTIONS FROM OUR LEADER... REPEAT.. THIS IS NOT A DRILL.. AS OUTLINED IN THE MANUAL- DENY, DENY, DENY UNTIL FURTHER INSTRUCTIONS ARE GIVEN... FABRICATE IF YOU MUST, DO NOT VALIDATE THE OFFICIAL COURT DOCKET OR ADMIT DEFEAT... MAYDAY, MAYDAY!!!!!!!!
Why did she back down? I think she finally ran into the trifecta of no substance, too much money and attorneys who were not interested in either losing or not getting paid. Perhaps they sensed her lack of interest in paying them. LOL
So thus the bird - the perfect (not) cover for things not going her way. And in her warped little mind, cheaper than a new car. So sure spend 1K on a parrot, just in time to make the children feel sad about going to Dad's for the holiday. Interesting that she has nothing to say about all the friends coming to join them for turkey and pie.
Pretty ready here, after a few weeks of shopping and prepping, and cooking the past few days. Last project is DH and his pumpkin pies tonight. Going to join family at the beach for dinner tomorrow, actually not unhappy to not be hosting this year. New traditions, which is the blessing of having extended family and friends. But it is also the reward of cultivating these relationships over a lifetime, this is what Kate fails to understand and the gift she is NOT giving her children. There is no easy fix, no easy out, no easy $$$.
I am exploring a bookstore on vacation and not one copy of Love is in the Mix. However, they have several copies of Cooking with Coolio, the Ghetto Gourmet! Hahahahahaha! It's cute and funny too!
Congrats to Robert. You beat the bully. Not many have been able to say/do that.
I have mixed feelings about what happens next bc of the kids, but I 100% agree that Kate brought it all on herself. I am also sure she will learn nothing form it.
I agree, Cheri! Especially several children have died due to the trainings. Michael Pearl is a demon from HADES!!! Anyone who would promote the hitting of a infant on their skin with plastic tubing or a wooden spoon is hideously insane.
This is not normal. We all know that! When we read what kate did to Joel, pulling him up by the hair of his 2 year old head into his crib and beaten with the wooden spoon into the crib. You don't treat your babies and children like animals. That book should be banned. Isn't the publisher afraid of repercussions of the recent deaths this teaching has caused?
I read some of what Robert put up and I was getting sick. I couldn't read anymore.
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I wonder how it will work out for her the first time she slaps the poor thing with a wooden spoon for getting seeds on her floor or screeching at an inopportune time. We KNOW it wont end well for this poor bird.
I guess it's just good that it's not a horse or pony.
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The bird may be loud and messy but what about that big elephant in the room. Wait till he drops one. Tomorrow is D-day.
Nice try Kate.
Another question-- can you "board" a bird? Are there many places that do this? Or, do you get in-home care or trust them to a family member or neighbor?
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Yes, there are some vets who will board a bird. Depending on the bird, though, it's not a good idea. Birds are territorial and like to stay in their own environment. Even then, depending on the bird's personality, any separation from the family can cause anxiety. A friend of mine had a Moluccan cockatoo (a screamer)...a large bird, who was very family-oriented, and a sensitive bird. The family went on vacation for two weeks and someone came in and cared for her while they were gone. The bird missed the family so much that by the time they got home, she had plucked nearly all of her feathers and looked like a bald pink chicken.
Joy -- Bill is scheduled at the local performing arts center here in April. I had never heard of him before DWTS, but he seems like such a nice guy. I'm going to the show to see what kind of a performance he puts on.
Lauren @ljohnson2006 21m
@BHappyLoveLaugh so sorry that the trolls are causing so much grief. no respect for others. If @Kateplusmy8 signed the site, she cares. 💜
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What site has Kate allegedly signed?
She's all gaga for the new pet now, give it time...
Remember she RACED the kids to the dog pen and SHE picked the puppies first. SHE named them? And what? That EVENING she's already bitching about them peeing on the carpet and that the kids weren't doing their job. At dinner, the kids, in unison (gag) thank her. She barks "YOUR NOT WELCOME". It's just like her having the tups. She liked when they were her little dolls. When it came down to the real DIRTY part of raising children, she pawned it off to someone else, she smacked the crap out of them, verbally and emotionally still abuses them, basically left them, days, weeks on end and STILL HAD THE GALL TO COMPLAIN. Lather rinse repeat.
My opinion, she is giving up Shoka and the meeting with his "brother" is to see if they get along. She is getting a parrot to cover the guilt. All too much of a coincidence.
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Oh you may have something there!
Yes Tucker's mom those are from last family, they had to move, very sweet family....new owners have been renovating for over a month now....all re-landscaped as well. I think they have taken out all effects of 14 children over the last ten years. This new Reno is extensive
Crazy Cat Lady -- I agree that it isn't an inherently bad idea to gift a puppy or a kitten for Christmas or any other holiday. I used to breed cats. When parents would get in touch with me about getting a kitten for their child for a holiday gift, I'd urge them to come see the kittens I had available. If they decided that they wanted one of my kittens, I'd fix up a little gift basket with a kitty bed, a few toys, a picture of the available kittens (and a copy of my sales contract for the parents) and have them gift the basket, then come back with the child after the holidays to pick out the kitten. I wanted to see the child interact with them before I let one of my babies go to a forever home. Not all kittens/pups are compatible with a particular child. You need to fit the kid's personality with the pet. The biggest knock on giving a pet as a gift is that the holidays are so chaotic in some homes that it's a terrible way to introduce a new animal and help them make the adjustment to a new home.
TFMJG does not need another living creature in that house of hers (I refuse to call it a home. There's nothing homelike about it). Especially a parrot that will require a lot of care, attention, and interaction. She can't take proper care of the animals she already has (or her children, for that matter).
reader and other legal eagles here... is it typical to wait until the 11th hour to ask for an extension, or an extension on an extension?
It seems like these motions, and the decision to drop the suit against Jon, were brought to light at the last moment, as if to prolong the drama or keep the opposition sweating.
Thoughts?
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=npjOSLCR2hE&desktop_uri=/watch?v=npjOSLCR2hE.
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lol! Classic, only it'll be tfw saying "It's just resting" and someone from the Humane Society telling her it's dead.
bad joke I know:(
Only because it is so timely, and a little levity never hurts. Here, the illustrated story of Grumpy, the Undead Parrot.
http://theoatmeal.com/comics/grump
Tucker's Mom said... 195
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I agree with your sediments, Tucker's Mom! LOVE the Osbournes!
They had pizza again after collecting Zorro. I looked at the photos and saw TFWs collar bone mentioned- gaunt, horrific.
Poor bird. I hate caged pets.
Vanessa said... 107
Ok, this may ruffle a few feathers (pun intended) but I feel the same way about people on welfare. Some, and I repeat "some" people on social assistance living in social housing seem to have the cutest pure bred EXPENSIVE dogs, all "tricked out" with outfits and such. Also, 'SOME' seem to have a lot of tattoos $$$(sleeves and whole back/body) WHO pays for all this???
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Because I value this blog so much as just about the only place online where people can have reasonable discussions about the Gosselin saga, I purposely stay away from discussions involving politics, social viewpoints, and other hot button topics. There are so many other places online where I can share my views and know that the conversations will get heated, am prepared for name-calling and foul language, etc.
If this were another blog or website, I might respond to your comment with a different point of view. My remarks might then stir up further remarks from others, and it could turn unpleasant.
Not telling you or anyone else what to say or where to say it -- only that I'm well aware that posters here come from all sorts of political and sociological backgrounds, with a whole variety of strongly held opinions, and those conversations can often get quite heated. Do we really want to go there, over a discussion on how we view people who access the social safety net?
"We all enjoy praise and admiration on occasion, but narcissists don’t enjoy occasional admiration- they crave admiration all the time (as can be had through status, power and money) almost like an addiction. To obtain the status that they seek, they will exaggerate or misrepresent their talents and accomplishments. They may even lie and cheat in order to get promotions, win races, or seduce people.
Narcissists are preoccupied with self-aggrandizement to sharpen public opinion of their image. They fantasize about, and seek out, power, fame, status and money; they are envious of others who have plenty of these resources.To him, money is the ultimate love substitute.
Secondly, his grandiose thinking leads him to believe that he should have, or does have, more money than he actually possesses. This leads to reckless spending, to pathological gambling, to substance abuse, or to compulsive shopping.
Narcissists engage in magical thinking which leads to irresponsible, shortsighted behavior for which they believe they are immune from the results of that behavior. They descend into debt, commit financial crimes, and hassle people- including their closest relatives.
Furthermore, their fantasies lead them to believe in their fabricated financial “facts” which are not commensurate with their talents, qualifications, jobs, and resources. They pretend to be richer than they are or pretend to be capable of becoming rich if they so desire. They are greedy but have an ambivalent, love-hate relationship with money. They can be mean, stingy, and calculating with their own money yet an eager spendthrift with other people’s money. They live lavishly and often well above their means. It is not uncommon for narcissists to go bankrupt and ruin their businesses.
Lastly, reality is distorted and does not match their grandiose fantasies. Nowhere is the grandiosity gap more evident than where money is involved.
We all have desires that we may obsess about: expensive clothes, sex, gourmet food, or exquisite jewelry. Many narcissists are obsessed with money. They think about how much money they have, how to get more of it, how to keep it away from others, and whom to manipulate to get more- including how to take family members money/inheritance. Money is their substitution for love, warmth, and affection. Having as much money as possible, even stealing it away from family members, is the narcissist’s unwavering goal. Thoughts about obtaining more money are always on the narcissist’s mind. Having an abundance of money makes them feel more entitled and superior to others.
Moneyed narcissists are always looking down on the working class. They don’t seek knowledge, wisdom, inner peace or insight. They seek to achieve their greatest goal-being able to have whatever they desire as well as attracting other people whom they can easily exploit to satisfy their money cravings. A too common situation is for a narcissistic sibling, male or female, to ingratiate the mother or father who is holding the wealth- to become their confidante, their favored and trusted one. This is done over many years and is a well planned scheme.
Narcissists use money to help them feel special and superior to others. Status items such as designer clothes, luxury cars, upscale homes, dinners and trips are essential ways through which a narcissist can enhance his ego. Spending money when you have it, is one thing; spending money when you don’t have it, is quite another. A narcissist believes that he is entitled to the best, even if he does not have the money to afford it. He easily fools himself into believing that the money will be there in the future, even if it’s not there right now."
Thank you, Millicent (at 15). Well said, and amen.
http://theoatmeal.com/comics/grump
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Hilarious!! HAHAHA!
"because Grumpy was possibly the world's first and only DIABETIC CANNIBAL"
"That bird sells for at Petsmart: for: $499.99 on sale right now, from $549.99. That does not include the cage and all the stuff that goes with it. That is another at least $400."
I had no idea. Piecing and patching my sweet a#*. And from a private pet store. She is a work of art.
Millicent
You're right. I should have learnt the last time I posted something a little controversial. I take the post back. On to tfw.
Vanessa @116,
Well that disproves anyone who says that TFW "absolved" Jon of child support payments. Not willingly, not for a trade for filming, nothing. I would think she would see those payments as punishment for him leaving her and ending their tv run together. He would have to take her to court and PROVE he saw the kids more often than the court order, and PROVE that he deserves a court order for more custody time. I don't think there's anyway she would give up either the kids or potential income willingly. She sees the kids as her money makers.
Parrots are tropical birds. She will kill it the first time she flings all the windows open in winter to punish the kids for getting sick.
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We keep our house fairly cool in the winter to save energy and on the heating bills (and I can't live in a hot house), but our bird has his own little space heater that keeps him toasty at night. He's happy. When he's out of his cage during the day he doesn't seem to mind it if the room temperature isn't hot. Parrots can adapt, to a cooler environment even though they are tropical birds. But you can't throw a window open in the dead of winter and expect the bird not to feel the effects from a blast of cold air.
Kate has no idea what she has gotten herself into. That bird will be gone by Easter.
PA Dutch Mom, I have never seen Bill in person. He has done many ” Blue Collar Comedy Tour” shows and specials on CMT and Comedy Central. He and ” Larry the Cable Guy and Jeff Foxworthy did that tour, very funny!
Bill is the original ” here's your sign” guy.
He says that stupid people should wear a sign, that way you wouldn't bother them with questions or rely on them for anything. like this one: Bill pulls into gas station with flat tire.
Attendant: your tire go flat?
Bill: noor, I was driving asking and three other the just swelled up!
Attendant: well, the heat will do that.
Bill: here's your sign.
His delivery is what is so funny!
PA Dutch Mom said... 5
What site has Kate allegedly signed?
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I think they are talking about the memorial page thing for Bhappy's husband who passed away a while ago.
Correcting 23 because I actually can spell (curse you auto correct!)
Bill: nope, I was driving along and the other three just swelled up!
Here's your sign!
PA Dutch Mom, if she really has a bird, I doubt it will last until January 1.
Tucker's Mom said... 195
Joy, I enjoy watching Jack, too.
Almost inexplicably, I was really into watching The Osbournes.
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Agreed with your comment! I rolled my eyes when I first saw the commercials for this show years ago, then I happened to watch one episode and got hooked. Although their family life does not resemble mine in most ways, the truth that shined through was that there was love in that household, love and acceptance. And that no matter what, they were there for each other. Sharon is the rock of that family and I don't think her children or her husband have ever doubted that she loves them fiercely, protectively and unconditionally.
I think Sharon was on The Ellen Show a few years back, and for some reason Ellen was showing her pictures of various celebrities for her to comment on. Kate's picture was shown and Sharon made a face and I believe tossed the picture aside. LOL.
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reader and other legal eagles here... is it typical to wait until the 11th hour to ask for an extension, or an extension on an extension?
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I'd say there's no hard and fast rule, because it really depends on the law firms/attorneys involved. Just like the general population, you have some attorneys who procrastinate on everything. Everything is always done on a last minute basis.
Other attorneys like to be prepared, have things taken care of on time.
Other attorneys have good support staff to make sure things are calendared properly and taken care off before it becomes a last minute problem.
In this case, I can't tell if TFW's attorneys are procrastinators. The timing is part of the problem - it's Thanksgiving week. One or both of the attorneys could be on vacation, or perhaps they have staff on vacation this week. They could also still be trying to settle things behind the scenes. So many factors, that it's hard to tell the exact reason for waiting til the last minute to do something.
Thoughts?
Millicent said...
I think Sharon was on The Ellen Show a few years back, and for some reason Ellen was showing her pictures of various celebrities for her to comment on. Kate's picture was shown and Sharon made a face and I believe tossed the picture aside. LOL.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncPXL9dmOKI
PJ
I agree with the posters who give the bird a month. We owned a Quaker parrot for many years, but he only bonded w/ me, and constantly tried to bite my husband and son, who was a laid back kid. TFW knows her kids' personalities and has put them and the bird in a situation where they will fail.
Ingrid said... 24
PA Dutch Mom said... 5
What site has Kate allegedly signed?
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I think they are talking about the memorial page thing for Bhappy's husband who passed away a while ago.
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Just from what I saw a Twitter (I was never involved in all this obviously), this fan accused the haters of harassing her into taking her late husband's memorial page down when it actually had just expired (no pun intended). Plus there is an entry that says "Take care, Kate G." the haters have been pointing out that it was dated way before this fan "met" TFW on twitter, and she's known for telling tall tales.
So I guess they have til the end of the day tomorrow to file their response or stipulation?
Millicent, it could be possible that TFMJG attorneys are trying to talk some sense into her. And she can't hear them over the new bird. ” what did you say? I can't hear you, the bird is screeching?”
If things proceed, I hope they ask for payment in advance. Because you know TFMJG won't want to pay their bill if they don't know how to help her!
I loved the Osbournes too! I didn't realize Jack was in the finale...
WOS has no clue what she is getting in to. Conure beaks are sharp and they hurt! I'd rather be bit by my Greys than a conure and their beaks are huge in comparison.
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I've been bitten by so many species of parrots, and you're right, a conure bite is nasty. Conures are unpredictable. They can be loving and affectionate one minute, and turn on you the next. Kate doesn't know that bird and the bird doesn't know them. That's why I am so concerned that Kate and the kids are letting that bird ride around on their shoulders. Amazons, too, can do some serious damage, but the worst bite I ever got was from a Greenwing Macaw (the pirate's parrot). He got me in the arm, and I spurted blood, dripping a nice long trail until I could get pieced and patched.
Why in the heck did she get a bird? She just doesn't seem like a bird person considering that birds require a lot of care, affection, socialization...not to mention the mess they make.
Millicent said... 15
''....If this were another blog or website, I might respond to your comment with a different point of view. My remarks might then stir up further remarks from others, and it could turn unpleasant.
Not telling you or anyone else what to say or where to say it -- only that I'm well aware that posters here come from all sorts of political and sociological backgrounds, with a whole variety of strongly held opinions, and those conversations can often get quite heated. Do we really want to go there, over a discussion on how we view people who access the social safety net?''
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AMEN! Admin asked us to leave politics off this blog, and I think that was a very wise decision. I totally agree with your comment about doing the same with ''politics, social viewpoints, and other hot button topics.''
OrangeCrusher1 said... 19
"That bird sells for at Petsmart: for: $499.99 on sale right now, from $549.99. That does not include the cage and all the stuff that goes with it. That is another at least $400."
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That's crazy, she just spend around a $1000 for a pet????
I mean, if you have the money, patience and obsession for birds, okay go for it, but she doesn't have any of those 3! And seriously, if you are looking for a pet for your 8! kids I don't think a bird is the most logical fit in a busy, loud & crazy household. Get a freaking cat where you can cuddle with, small dog or even a bunny. Those kids will loose attention for that bird real fast, it sits on your shoulder but you cant cuddle or hug it. And if Kate ever cries "poor me" again.........
She won't get rid of Shoka. He's a guard dog. I think she is nuts to get that bird. She acts like she looooves the bird so much, but it's a lie. Just a lame attempt to get some internet buzz.
Reading from bottom, just wanted to wish those in the U.S a Happy Thanksgiving this Thursday, and hope the weather doesn't ruin many of you who are travelling. We had ours last month, we traveled to Regina to be with our daughters and grandkids, a trip just over 2 hours. We got back home, and just as we were parking in the driveway, a tire fell off the jeep! Someone up there is keeping an eye on us, if it had happened on the highway, we could have killed someone, or injured ourselves badly. Always check the lug nuts before you leave your house!
My husband married me when I was 19 and he was 31, and had our honeymoon driving across the U.S, until we got to Seattle. I bought a beautiful calendar at a store beside the ocean, near our hotel, called the Edgewater, right on the water. Then when Fall came along, after we were nearly finished harvest that first year of marriage, people began talking about Thanksgiving. I thought it was a little early for Thanksgiving planning because MY CALENDER said it was next month, in November! Boy, was my face ever red, for a very long time!!!
Oh, good grief. Now we're going to hear about every time one of the kids is home sick, sitting around all day with the bird on their lap/shoulder.
Shoot me now.
Mel said... 150
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I'm glad TWF posted a picture of only her and the bird. Leave the children out of the pictures with the bird. There is no need to contiune thrusting them in the spotlight just to post with the bird to please the public viewers. They need a break. Thanks.
Suzy
Suzy, I think you must have mis-read/misunderstood my post.
I was responding to someone who said:
She post a picture of the bird on her shoulder that she could have taken in the pet store. Why not post pictures of the kids looking at the bird or holding the bird?
I meant in my response that she posted a pic of herself with the bird (and not a pic of the kids with the bird) was because this is all about her.
I did NOT mean that she *should* have posted a pic of the kids with the bird. And I don't think the original poster meant that a pic of the kids should have been posted either.
Personally I wish she would stop posting pics of anything to do with her family and let them retreat to a private life.
IMO, the OP's point was that TFW posted a pic of herself, because we all know that everyone was just a-waitin' to see a pic of TFW with the new purchase. And I was agreeing with him/her.
I am in total agreement that those poor kids deserve their privacy, and have always deserved their privacy; that has been my stance from day one.
Thanks,
Mel
Just from what I saw a Twitter (I was never involved in all this obviously), this fan accused the haters of harassing her into taking her late husband's memorial page down when it actually had just expired (no pun intended). Plus there is an entry that says "Take care, Kate G." the haters have been pointing out that it was dated way before this fan "met" TFW on twitter, and she's known for telling tall tales.
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So why doesn't this fan ask Kate to confirm that she actually signed that page? Wouldn't that put an end to the accusations that this fan was the one who signed Kate's name?
Always check the lug nuts before you leave your house!
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I was reading very fast, and I thought this said, "always check your nuts before you leave the house."
It's been a long day of online shopping, getting fantastic deals (many things free after rebates and codes were applied) and I didn't even have to use Kate's coupon site! I wonder how that thing is working out for her. We know Milo loves it, but nobody else seems to comment on it.
That's crazy, she just spend around a $1000 for a pet????
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Minimum, Amanda, and it's going to cost even more just keeping the bird in food, toys, perches. She has no idea.
prairiemary said... 38
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Thank you and wow! an Angel must have been holding onto your lug nuts!
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 33m
Today, Hannah spent a sick day at home(not contagious)&Zorro spent the day on her lap &shoulder, watching tv&keeping her company
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If there are any fans who read here, or anyone on Twitter who isn't blocked, could they please tell Kate NOT to let that bird sit on shoulders? I know she is reluctant to take advice, but I have seen the damage that can be done to necks and shoulders from bird bites. I've had quite a few years of experience with parrots, and I hate to see anything happen to those kids.
Someone needs to send this link to Kate. I thought she had done "research," but apparently not.
https://companionparrotonline.com/shoulder.html
Here's a thought. Maybe she's hoping to spark speculation that, since she's piecin and patchin, the only way she could have afforded the parrot is if Jon had to pay her to settle the lawsuit.
"Today, Hannah spent a sick day at home(not contagious)&Zorro spent the day on her lap &shoulder, watching tv&keeping her company"
Oh look, another 'not-a-nanny' for the kids. She'll do anything to not interact with her children. And how does Nurse TFW know a sick child is not contagious, but sick enough to be home, nice putting the new bird in the zone all day. But then again, who believes anything she says?
Haha. Sometimes the truth shows up unintended. Ms. DOO LITTLE
We all know she does as little as possible.
Pam
Any surprise that one child, one particular child, got to spend the day at home with the new bird?
Divide and conquer all the way.
She is just so... odd.
Oh hmmm, yawn, another boring story from Kate. Look at me I have a new (fill in the blank). So what. Who cares.
What's bad this time is that involves another living being. She'll play with it for a while until she's done...on to the next thing. In the meantime someone has to take care of the bird. Calling the Nanny or one of the children to do it because Kate won't do it, she can't be bothered..
Kate has the attention span of a nat. Whatever pops into her head or catches her eye or someone else has, she wants. Doesn't matter if should have it or needs it. She plays with it for a short period then on to the next thing.
As a responsible pet owner this just makes me angry. Don't adopt or buy any pet unless you understand the pet's traits or think long term how an addition to the family structure will work. Stop and think before getting a pet.
What the heck could a kid be sick enough with that's not contagious to stay home? Not old enough for cramps....
It should be Shoka keeping H company while she's sick. He should be curled up on the couch with her, keeping her warm and comforting her. I am sure he is freezing his butt off outside or alone in the basement. Poor dog.
https://companionparrotonline.com/shoulder.html
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Wow, I had no idea!
A new pet always needs to be acclimated slowly and misunderstandings and inability to communicate effectively is to be expected.
Ditto, Orange Crusher!
Well, it seems Milo rushed to do some readin' up on this bird of Kate's. She must have missed the part about possibly biting, because she didn't mention it!
Free Shoka said... 53
It should be Shoka keeping H company while she's sick. He should be curled up on the couch with her, keeping her warm and comforting her. I am sure he is freezing his butt off outside or alone in the basement. Poor dog.
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Yep. I got a virus (probably noro but at that time in the 70s called the stomach flu) in 7th grade. I got to lay in my parents' bed because the bathroom was right there. I would get the chills and my dog would cuddle next to me. Then I would get up to get sick and get really hot and the dog would move to the floor. I would get the chills and he would come back up. All. Day. Long. He was an Irish Setter. #DogsRule
Localyocul: Oh, that one is not too young for cramps. Though if that were the case, my mother would have given me something and to school I go.
Tuckersmom: the kids have a 5 day weekend, they are off tomorrow. I'm sure Kate will be working them too. So, maybe this bird was for that special favorite?
Is H the one with migraines? That's not contagious. However when I was a freshman one of my dormmates had severe migraines. She got a single room because of it. When she got an attack, she had to stain in her room with the shades down and earplugs in.
Several have posted making Stove Top Stuffing for T-day. I checked my email earlier and I receive Top Secret Recipes from Todd Wilburn who clones our favorite recipes so we can make them at home. Today it was Stove Top Stuffing. Here is the link, will be available through Dec. 2nd.
http://www.topsecretrecipes.com/Kraft-Stove-Top-Stuffing-Recipe.html
Where it says to sit the cut up celery out under direct light to dry, I would put cheesecloth or maybe a paper towel because of flies or one of those screened domes.
If a man lives with TFW, he should check his nuts as well!
getofftwitter said... 58
Localyocul: Oh, that one is not too young for cramps. Though if that were the case, my mother would have given me something and to school I go
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Me too. Had to have a fever, intractable coughing or such. And if you were too sick to go to school you were too sick to watch tv. She never threw us on the laundry room floor though. She made up the couch and we got ginger ale and ice chips and special TLC. Since we were really sick if we were actually staying home.
prairiemary said... 61
If a man lives with TFW, he should check his nuts as well!
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Jon did. And he finally got tired of finding them missing.
I don't like retail pet outlets, but I do hope that pet shop has a return policy for all the critters if things don't work out at their new home. Even the traumatized animals.
If Zorro is six months old he was probably very used to his surroundings by now and all the sounds of the other animals. I can't stand the thought of what the future holds for that poor bird if that idiot keeps him.
Sleepless @46 - Wow! I never realized that parrots had to be trained. I'll stick to bulldogs.
When I was going through chemo (13 years ago) my previous bully would get up on the couch next to me with his head in my lap. I can't even begin to tell you how comforting that was. After the chemo was over and I was fine he never did it again. He instinctively knew what I needed and he was there for me. I could hug him and just cry into his fur when I needed to. I didn't have to be "strong" for him. I can't feature doing the same thing with a bird. You're right localyocul #dogsdorule
PatK, yeah, he finally got them back, and they are now bigger!
No woman will ever be able to take them from him again.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Shoka kill some chickens at one time? He hunts, kills, and eats small animals. If this bird is ever out of its cage, then TFW better make sure Shoka isn't in the house at the same time. If he is, then bye bye birdie.
I saw a story today about a tiger at Steve Irwin's zoo biting a trainer in the neck. The trainer was airlifted out with puncture wounds to his neck from the tiger's teeth. It is appalling that Terri puts her kids out there, has them interacting with dangerous creatures at the zoo, to entertain the masses. What if that had been Bindi or Robert? These fame-obsessed mothers have no regard for their children's well-being, no protective instinct, when it comes to getting attention and money from the public. Sickening.
#dogsdorule
I remember I once got really sick was sofa ridden and my two little Lhasa Apsos refused to me away for the side of the sofa I wasn't on.
And they would follow me all over the house once I got well they went back to lying in their beds.
Layla said... 67
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Yes, Shoka has killed chickens.
I feel strongly that Kate should never get a bird, or a small dog, or a cat while Shoka is on the property.
Shoka is probably a lovely dog, and so was Nala, according to Robert, but some dogs hunt prey and kill, and that's just that.
I too also saw the article about the Irwin's zoo tiger attacking his trainer. I found the photos of Kate posing with a tiger at the zoo very disturbing, as well as the photos of all the kids with an elephant.
Wild animals are just that, and it's not a matter of if someone will be attacked, but when.
Oh,that one is not too young for cramps. 58
You are referring to a 9 year old.
How is this statement different from a 6 year old being referred to as a bitch?
I hate what has been/is being done to these children, but blaming them or snarking on them is beyond the pale.
Their parents are fair game. The children are not.
(I am not prepared to debate early adolescence. We have NO data).
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if you were being sarcastic, you need to be clear about that. These are children, not adults.
I feel strongly that Kate should never get a bird, or a small dog, or a cat while Shoka is on the property.
Shoka is probably a lovely dog, and so was Nala, according to Robert, but some dogs hunt prey and kill, and that's just that.
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My dogs have never bothered with the bird, but of course they are small lap dogs and are not aggressive and have never killed anything or anyone! They are actually kind of afraid of the bird, although they do come running when the bird asks if they want to go outside.
Kate doesn't know this, but birds are pretty darn smart and can open their cage door and the doors to their food dishes. They can pick locks. I hope she doesn't come home one day to find the bird has done just that, and Shoka is in the house. That will be the end (literally) of the bird.
https://companionparrotonline.com/shoulder.html
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Wow, I had no idea!
A new pet always needs to be acclimated slowly and misunderstandings and inability to communicate effectively is to be expected.
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Obviously, neither does Kate. Looks like her research was the hit and miss kind.
They are actually kind of afraid of the bird, although they do come running when the bird asks if they want to go outside.
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Oh, that's so funny.
When I talk with DH on the phone, he's on speaker and my dogs just don't get the whole disembodied voice thing.
No reaction at all!
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 11m
@Kateplusmy8 Do U have 2cover Zorro's cage w/towel or small blanket at nite? I heard they will chirp all nite if U don't?
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Milo, conures don't chirp. This isn't a sparrow. Conures yell, they squawk, and they are extremely loud. I've had some that freaked with a cover over the cage, and some that wouldn't sleep without a cover. Depends on the bird.
Localyocul: Same here, my mom: unless you have a fever, threw up, or broke something or had dental work done, off to school. School was very important to my parents.
PA Dutch mom: lucky kids!
Rhymes with witch: I was not being sarcastic, just stating a fact, that a lot of 9 year girls, become young ladies, and since that tup is 9, it is possible that is why she was home, I was answering someone else's post. And I never refered to any 6 year as a bitch, where are you getting this from? Where did I say that? Show me?
Yeah this was not a good thing.
Clip of TFW with birds.....
http://www.usmagazine.com/entertainment/news/bikini-clad-kate-gosselin-attacked-by-birds-201076
getofftwitter said...Oh,that one is not too young for cramps
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Who isn't too young for cramps?
Sleepless in Seattle: My birds do the same. When it's about 9 pm-10pm, they make a rukus in their cages, and that is a sign to me they want to go to bed and be covered and the light out.
Is Kate's TL down? I don't have Twitter. I read the realtime thing, but I keep getting an error message. Has Milo now become an expert on birds?
How's about simply not referring to them as 'tups'? That one always chaps my hide. They must hate it.
They are actually kind of afraid of the bird, although they do come running when the bird asks if they want to go outside. 72
I realize that you may not see the humor in this, but I found it amusing.
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And I never refered to any 6 year as a bitch, where you getting this from? Where did I say that? Show me?
I apologize for not being clearer. There was at least one blog 7 years ago calling one child a bitch. That was not in any way a reference to you. Old timers would remember. I sometimes forget that not always everyone is. Apologies.
As for your other point, we have no knowledge about these children (and we shouldn't) except the bs that Kate puts out there and speculation about them really disturbs me. They deserve as much privacy as possible.
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Oh great, something else for Milo to ask questions about, special. So anything about Thanksgiving coming out of TFW's twitter world? Or is this bird purchase a smokescreen for another non-holiday. Maybe she's turning the pumpkins that were never carved into pies. Nah, that's a project for next week. Why rush into anything.
I know this is totally off topic, but I'm thinking of signing up for an account with mint.com. Right now, I download my transactions directly from my bank and credit card accounts. But I'm wondering if it might be easier to use mint.com
I appreciate your opinion on the site.
Again, I apologize for going off topic. But honestly, the topic of Kate's bird is so boring. Is this really what she's about now? It's pitiful.
Mel said... 40
IMO, the OP's point was that TFW posted a pic of herself, because we all know that everyone was just a-waitin' to see a pic of TFW with the new purchase. And I was agreeing with him/her.
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Mel and Suzy,
I am the original poster. I am sorry I didn't make myself clear in my post. I did not mean that Kate should post pictures of the children with the bird. My point was that in the past to "prove" she had gotten something (expensive meat slicer) or spent time doing something (baking millions of cookies) she has always posted a picture in her home or with the children involved. The pictures were obviously in her home so they were easily verified that yes, she did this or bought that. My point in my post was that I think Kate had that picture taken at the pet store and made a post about it. I do not think she bought the bird. Her usual smoke and screen. Does that clarify things? I especially do not need to see pictures of those precious children.
As a side not, having had infertility issues and then blessed twice with children I cannot wrap my mind around the way she treats the children. I would die (as I am sure everyone with children that post here) for my children.
WOS flits from interest to interest faster than some people change their unnerwears.. 'she' created her website, either some of the tabs were never started(seems one of those was faith,lol), or not updated; 'she' wrote a cookbook but wouldn't publicize her promotional tour; 'she' started a coupon blog, and hasn't mentioned it in ages; what happened to menu mondays or throwback thursdays? what happened to running, the yogurt maker, break maker, meat slicer?
I'd love to see her go on a morning show now, and answer questions regarding dropping the lawsuit and the current one with an author wanting to out her journal.
WOS is at the end of the road. And everyone called it, she would hang herself. And she did that 'dark and stormy night' by throwing her journal in a trash heap.
On another subject, wonder who has the kiddos for the holiday? If it's WOS, there will be no other family there, no aunts, uncles, cousins. That's really sad. If they are with their father,maybe it will be different..maybe WOS purchased the bird so she'd have someone to talk to. LOL
I apologize for not being clearer. There was at least one blog 7 years ago calling one child a bitch. That was not in any way a reference to you. Old timers would remember. I sometimes forget that not always everyone is. Apologies.
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Well, let me tell you, little whippersnappers...!
I'm not sure that it was one blog in particular that targeted Mady when she was very young, rather, what I noted YEARS ago was that you could Google Mady Gosselin and it would autofill with 'b*tch' and 'brat'.
Awful.
I place the blame squarely on Jon+Kate for that. TLC production makes story arcs for each episode. The 'cast' of reality tv shows are characters and there are good guys and bad guys, protagonists and antagonists and most of all conflict and resolution.
From reading Robert's book, it appears Kate (and Jon?) were able to view the episodes before airing (and give feedback/request a change), so how Mady was portrayed was given the stamp of approval by her mother, at least.
When changes were requested, according to emails in the book, Jen took the concerns to Julie, and they capitulated.
http://www.usmagazine.com/entertainment/news/bikini-clad-kate-gosselin-attacked-by-birds-201076
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And there it is again, rewriting history. Did she LOOK like she enjoys birds, animals...LIFE in general?? She was annoyed as hell (when isn't she?) What a stupid stupid decision. And if they get rid of the bird, no biggie for her. That's her ammo. It's the kids who keep having things taken away, constantly!
New post up by Hoffman!
Do we know if Kate and Jon owned a copy of the book To Train Up a Child? I saw a story on it on Anderson Cooper 360 and they mention a wooden spoon in the story.
http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2013/11/25/controversial-parenting-book-linked-to-the-deaths-of-several-children/?hpt=ac_mid
Re: Hoffman's latest post
The red spanker? Wooden spoon in van? Papert towel cardboard?
Wasn't it "Blair" from Facts of Life who also followed this "method"?
I think she'd have a little more credibility if she at least had mentioned a few times how much she adores birds and wants a bird for a pet. Otherwise it sounds like an impulsive buy, and you should never, ever buy any living thing on impulse.
Happy 27th everyone or should I say day of reckoning for Robert's suit. :)
Any word from PACER?
I know this is totally off topic, but I'm thinking of signing up for an account with mint.com. Right now, I download my transactions directly from my bank and credit card accounts. But I'm wondering if it might be easier to use mint.com
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Mint is good IF all your accounts will upload to it. Some of mine don't because some sites have such security that they won't go on it. Therefore to me it's useless unless I can see everything.
I usually am all for helpful programs like that but for finances I prefer a simple excel spreadsheet and keep track of it manually. It's more reliable. I'm not Bill Gates so there's not much to keep up with!
Barb In Nebraska said... 91
Do we know if Kate and Jon owned a copy of the book To Train Up a Child? I saw a story on it on Anderson Cooper 360 and they mention a wooden spoon in the story.
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I've thought for some time that she followed their teachings. She was constantly using the word "obey" to her kids which I found odd.
The book "To Train Up a Child" has been embraced by many fundamentalist Christian parents. It advocates raising children to obey without question, through spankings that begin when they are babies.
She was constantly using the word "obey" to her kids which I found odd.
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YES! I'm not sure i ever once mentioned this, but I always found the way she constantly ordered the kids to "obey" was such a cold and dicatatorship-like way to talk to them. They are three year olds, not soldiers in Hitler's youth. There are so many other nicer ways to say the same thing. Things like, Please listen to Mommy. Please do what Mommy asks you to do. Please behave yourself. Mind your p's and q's.
OBEY is just so firm and cold. Her relation to these children has always rung very odd.
I remember reading Kate's 'cure' for H's migraine. Give her Tylenol which she would promptly throw up ( ? how would it work then?) and send her to bed for more sleep. Makes no sense. Hopefully if she still has them, she is on an effective medication.
I tend to agree with the ' favored' child syndrome keeping H home though.If it were cramps surely Kate would announce that for all to know!
That obey thing always bothered me, too. IMO, a child under 2 has no concept of obey.
Besides, shouldn't she have been obeying her husband, then?
From Roberts latest post "A little fasting is good training. If you get a child who is particularly finicky and only eats a limited diet, then feed him mainly what he doesn’t like until he likes it."
Didnt TFW say that if they don't like something she gives them more of it to eat?
My guess is she bought the bird because the kids will be with Jon for thanksgiving and with the shinny ne "toy" at home they'll be clam morning to get back to it. Just another way to ruin the holiday for Jon.
Rhymes with witch: Apology accepted. Another post & I and several others, were tryin to figure out why any parent would keep a kid home, when they are going to be off for 4 days of school. And what are parents did with us. We all know Kate would pull her kids out of school in a minute to do any TV or filming. She could care less if they get educated. Cause if she did, knowing the kids were born early, and as we all know, children born too early are behind, Kate could have hired, people or put the kids in a program, to get them caught up. Kate didn't cause, being on TV was more important, that is why the kids are 9 and in 3rd grade, instead of being 9 in 4th grade. I do agree that they do need their privacy, and Kate then needs to shut up about them period. As to the one that is home, any child can say I don't feel good and stay home. They might not want to go to school, because, of a test, or other kids teasing them. And with kates 8, I would not be surprised if that were the case. Every time Kate does some goofy thing,or says something odd, the kids pay for it at school. They get teased. The school can stand on it's head, make new rules,and it will still happen. That is what Jon said, is going on.
As for being isolated, they are. They live far from their friends. And what we know of Kate, Kate probably picks their friends. Look how many kids came to their birthday parties, over the years. Was the whole class invited? No, just a few kids. At their school, the max number of kids per class is 13-15, per teacher. These are small classes. When I went to school we had 30-40 kids per teacher. Big difference. Kate is a control freak, just short of being a helicopter parent. Plus, I would not be surprise if anyone that comes into that house, be it child or adult, has to sign a discloser paper, or whatever it is called, after all can't tell anyone what went on in that house. Also, yes the kids are at school, it's probably the best place for them, but, when Kate thinks it's a good idea to spy on, critize and tattle on one another, don't you think that carries over to school. I would not want to hang around with the class tattle-tale. The fighting did. I would not be surprised if Kate gets called once a month to school for one of the kids fighting.
Well, I have to get off, do some shopping, before it becomes a zoo, out there.
EVERYONE: HAVE A NICE & SAFE & HAPPY
THANKSGIVING!
To Raise up A Child has been discussed here before. This is just one more example of people using God's name to justify, sanitize and cover up a crime. This book has been discussed here before, due to the many similarities between it's message and Kate's discipline methods.
Lisa Whelchel's (Blair from Facts of Life) book focuses on humiliation punishment, like blindfolding a child for an hour if she rolls her eyes or making kids eat dinner with boxing gloves on. Books like this should just be called "How to Reserve a Lifetime Therapy Appointment for Your Child." Sick, sick, sick, sick.
Oh, one more thing, the word OBEY, reminds me of the Daleks.
YOU WILL OBEY! OBEY! OBEY! OBEY! Kate must be a Dalek! LOL
Vanessa said... 92
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I think "Blair" and possibly "DJ" from Full House and her brother Kirk Cameron from Growing Pains, as well.
My phone is doing odd things to my comments before they post.
Where's franky? She'll understand. :)
Besides, shouldn't she have been obeying her husband, then? 99
Oh but the rules apply to everyone but Kate.
Tucker's Mom said... 195
Joy, I enjoy watching Jack, too.
Almost inexplicably, I was really into watching The Osbournes.
I don't know if there is a more dysfunctional family on tv! But their dysfunction had nothing to do with disrespect or not loving one another dearly, as we saw with Kate's shows.
The O's desperately love each other and while Jack and Kelly showed major signs of drug and entitlement problems, somehow, they've turned into exceptional adults who are clearly talented.
I remember watching a special that Jack did shortly after their reality tv show ended. Jack had become an addict, was fat, out of shape and headed for trouble when he got his act together.
Jack's show was about him taking on extremely difficult physical challenges around the globe, and ended with him climbing El Capitan, so he's no stranger to taking on challenges.
Anyway, there's something endearing about this addiction-addled family and then there's Jon and Kate, who burst onto the scene as rather milquetoast Christians and guess who I like a whole lot more?
Yes, give me Ozzie and his brood any day.
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I recall an episode where ozzy's birthday was to be celebrated in a hotel restaurant. The kids and the mom are upstairs in a room and have asked for a large sheet of tin foil to be sent up so jack could gift wrap a stack of cds for a his dad. They are running late and it seems even the camera guy is trying to walk ahead and leave the room in an effort to hurry them out of the room.
When a hotel worker brings the large sheet of tin foil to the door, Kelly, Jack and Sharon are all ignoring the cameras and are all thanking the hotel worker. They are practically speaking at the same time when then thank him.
It says a lot about the way you treat employees, service employees, waiters, doormen, hotel employees, tour guides, housekeepers.
Formerly Duped said... 98
I remember reading Kate's 'cure' for H's migraine. Give her Tylenol which she would promptly throw up ( ? how would it work then?) and send her to bed for more sleep. Makes no sense. Hopefully if she still has them, she is on an effective medication.
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I don't remember Kate discussion that "cure", but wow if true!
When I suffered from migraines, the headache would 'crescendo' with me vomiting, and relief and utter exhaustion sleep would ensue.
But, to give Tylenol because you know it's going to make the child puke is bizarre.
There are far better meds nowadays!
That book is disgusting and promotes child abuse. Did TFW adhere to it or make her own practices up?
Why doe RH have two sites- I find it confusing!
"clam morning " above should be "clamoring". Boy, auto correct can be creative at times!
"My guess is she bought the bird because the kids will be with Jon for thanksgiving and with the shinny ne "toy" at home they'll be clam morning to get back to it. Just another way to ruin the holiday for Jon."
This is exactly what I think. The timing is suspect, as is the lack of twitting about turkey day 'memories'. She is transparent.
Wishing everyone south of the Canadian border a wonderful Thanksgiving.
I find the Pearls and their logic nauseating and frightening. And for the record, I'm a Christian and a homeschool mom.
Here's a snippet from the No Greater Joy Facebook page, posted by a "fan." Swatting a baby who pulls hair? This woman even says she knows the baby doesn't do it intentionally. And her own daughter "learned to associate the STICK with the stairs." Ugh. The self-righteousness is appalling. I, too, thought of Kate when I read about the Pearls and the wooden spoon.
My kids were well behaved because (I think) they respected us. They have never feared my husband and me. FEAR isn't love or respect.
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"Do you like it when someone pulls your hair? No you don't. It is the same when a baby does it and the child can be taught not to. No, the baby does not do it intentionally but when they continue to do so they must be redirected and a little smack teaches them not to do so. They learn that the training swat goes hand in hand with the fact that they touched that wirey stuff on a persons face or head, the hair. It feels very different from skin and they learn that difference and learn to associate that difference with a stinging from the little swat, hence they learn not to touch the hair. The same goes for little ***. She learned to associate the stick with the stairs and a slight stinging sensation."
I'm not much of a bird person. I should say, I'm not crazy about having a bird as a pet. I guess what grosses me out about birds is their bathroom habits. They will go anywhere, anyhow, no matter where they are (indoors or outdoors), whether they are sitting on someone's shoulder or sitting on a tree branch.
For me, give me a big fluffy dog or a kitty. I just never had any affection for birds as pets. However, I do love to watch birds in the wild, especially hummingbirds and cardinals (we put up feeders every spring for the little guys).
But this is what I find surprsing about "Neat Freak Kate", that she would have a bird, outside of it's cage considering that they are rarely litterbox trained.
I usually am all for helpful programs like that but for finances I prefer a simple excel spreadsheet and keep track of it manually. It's more reliable. I'm not Bill Gates so there's not much to keep up with!
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Thanks for the advice Admin. I'm like you, I download everything to an Excel spreadsheet and keep track of everything that way. I created an account in Mint and tested it using one of my bank accounts, and I like the way it downloads everything so quickly. But I'm leery of having all my passwords in one place. There's a lot of good review of Mint, but I'll probably stick with excel spreadsheet.
Sometimes it's hard for me to embrace new technology. :)
Our family follows the Christian faith, but we have always viewed "How to Train Up Your Child" as a manual for child abuse. I would encourage all parents, instead, to read "Easy To Love, Difficult to Discipline", "Managing Emotional Mayhem" and "Becoming the Parent You Want To Be."
"My guess is she bought the bird because the kids will be with Jon for thanksgiving and with the shinny ne "toy" at home they'll be clam morning to get back to it. Just another way to ruin the holiday for Jon."
This is exactly what I think. The timing is suspect, as is the lack of twitting about turkey day 'memories'. She is transparent.
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I have no idea what her motives are here, but I can guess. And this would be CLASSIC obsessed parental alienator behavior. The other parent is never allowed to have their visitation time free of manipulation and influence. They are never allowed to just have a great visit with Mom's blessing and see you when it's over. The parental alienator always must do SOMETHING to try to interfere with that, and it can be simple as buying something fun and exciting to draw the kids back home early. Again it's not Christmas yet, it's not Thanksgiving. Why get this NOW? Just in time for Jon's Thanksgiving visit? Hmm.
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I think the migraine treatment was discussed in I Just Want You to Know.
She said this was the reason Hannah had her own bedroom at first, and why Alexis was banished to the basement.
"Today, Hannah spent a sick day at home(not contagious
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How does she know it's not contagious and why is that important to this tweet? Huh? She is an odd bird who now has a bird. Two birds!
Re: the picture with the bird on the shoulder.
Donkey is back!
reader and other legal eagles here... is it typical to wait until the 11th hour to ask for an extension, or an extension on an extension?
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I can only speak for state court but it really depends. Sometimes if you know you'll need an extension and ask for it early, you will have the judge say well who knows where you will be at on the 27th let's wait until then before I decide to grant this and you let me know where you stand then. So some just want to see where you're at on the due date. Others appreciate more warning especially other counsel. I imagine it's similar in federal court, it's important to know your judge's preferences and whether you want to be kind to other counsel and be strategic.
Almost inexplicably, I was really into watching The Osbournes.
I don't know if there is a more dysfunctional family on tv! But their dysfunction had nothing to do with disrespect or not loving one another dearly, as we saw with Kate's shows.
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The Osbornes were better parents than I thought. They may be different but they listened to their children and supported them and treated them with respect. Their kids clearly adore them in return. And they respected Amy's decision not to go on T.V.
It says a lot about the way you treat employees, service employees, waiters, doormen, hotel employees, tour guides, housekeepers.
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Jack was only 13 or so when the show started and he still had a nanny. She was really cool and nice, very comfortable with them, and they were very nice to her in return. She was like another sister, not the hired help or pool girl.
Now that Kate has a bird is she officially a "Bird Brain" now? Hey, I couldn't resist.
How does she know it's not contagious and why is that important to this tweet? Huh? She is an odd bird who now has a bird. Two birds!
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If it were a migraine, or a sinus infection or tummy ache from eating something she shouldn't have, then Kate would probably know it's not contagious. Why is it important to the tweet? Who knows how her mind works.
I feel kinda sorry for Mr. Rushie that he's left holding the hag. It looks like Razzy has left the building, since his name was not on Kate's dismissal of Jon's suit. Kate has so much to lose and to be revealed if she persists with this suit against Robert. Risking all this in the name of blind revenge doesn't seem very "protective" of her children.
Formerly Duped said... 103
I think "Blair" and possibly "DJ" from Full House and her brother Kirk Cameron from Growing Pains, as well.
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I did a google search because I couldn't remember Candace Cameron ever talking about that book, and here's what I found:
http://christianwomenonline.net/2008/11/26/disciplining-you-child/
She co-authored a book called "Shepherding a Child's Heart", which does recommend spanking in certain situations. It is not the same book as To Train Up a Child. This is not to say she didn't recommend the book, but I don't think she did.
As a side note, I do not mean to get into a debate of spanking vs. not spanking. I'm just saying there's spanking which is a hot button debatable issue, and there's clear child abuse. Candace Cameron has never advocated child abuse.
Rymes...told you it was my stoopid phone =)
franky
Barb In Nebraska said... 91
Do we know if Kate and Jon owned a copy of the book To Train Up a Child? I saw a story on it on Anderson Cooper 360 and they mention a wooden spoon in the story.
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I have never heard that Kate was a follower of the Pearls, or this book. I have heard that the Duggars do use some of the methods suggested in this book, and do know the Pearls and consider them, if not friends, at least people who share similar beliefs.
From what I've read, that book and the Pearls are vile. There have been deaths of children attributed to the methods outlined in that book. It's basically a "how to" book for cruel and unusual punishment of children.
I find Kate reprehensible in so many ways, but the Pearls actually are worse.
Get off twitter, you are right! TFMJG must be a DALEK!
That's Why all the eggs!
EGGSTERMINATE!!!!!!!! EGGSTERMINATE!!!!!!!!
you have some attorneys who procrastinate on everything. Everything is always done on a last minute basis.
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Yes agree some are undoubtedly procrastinating but often extensions are for very good strategic reason. For instance a client might want time to make decisions or find evidence or talk things over, or they might be trying to drag things out to wear the other party down.
So in the case of asking for say a 7 day extension if you ask for it on the last day you would get 7 days from then. But if you ask for it a few days before they might start counting the 7 days from then. So in that sense it's a good idea to wait until 4:15 on the last day of filing to ask for an extension.
The Osbornes were better parents than I thought. They may be different but they listened to their children and supported them and treated them with respect. Their kids clearly adore them in return. And they respected Amy's decision not to go on T.V.
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I didn't even know they had a sister, Amy, until either the end of the show or sometime after the show.
I can not remember her even being mentioned.
Another big difference between Kate and Sharon/Ozzie.
Kate has always maintained that in ANYONE did not want to film, they wouldn't. But I've seen the contract and I've read what Kate obligated those children to in the contract, and it's nothing short of child labor.
By Kate's own account, on the Wendy Williams show, the children all wondered if they could still live in their home and go to their school if they didn't film.
How the hell are 7 year olds even aware of the finances?
Because Kate's told them that the show is their life and their life is the show.
I've always found that mantra rather disturbing, but Kate seemed to wear it as a badge of honor.
with the bird not garnering that much press attention, i guess the next pet she buys will be an elephant.....maybe soon she will have a menagerie to rival michael jacksons zoo, with a zebra, tiger, bubbles the monkey, etc....
Kate, by saying Hannah had nothing contagious, was letting us know two things: She was telling us that: 1.) she is a responsible pet owner by determining that what Hannah has is not "catchable" by the bird, and 2.) that she is an ignorant pet owner because only very, very few human illnesses are transmittable to a bird--colds and flu not being among them.
And did anyone else have a "What the hay" moment last night on Dancing With The Stars when the cameras panned across Kendra in the audience? I even had to do that instant rewind to make sure it wasn't Kate. Kate has definitely achieved genericity (genericness?? a state of looking way too much like a bunch of other people anyway!)
Silence on the Hoffman petition to dismiss. Guessing that Kate dragged this out, but my guess is that the attorneys filed to dismiss. Time shall tell.
JMG
It is funny to me to read the debate about the word "obey". I use it with my children. Although, I have explained to them what it means. I didn't grow up with parents who used that word though so I have no idea why I started :)
I guess most words can be harsh when not taught with kind, gentle words in a loving environment such as mine (not to brag but I am NOTHING like TFW!)
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I wonder if he means the stink-eye? The evil eye? Maybe H WAS contagious after all
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I feel kinda sorry for Mr. Rushie that he's left holding the hag.
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LOL! I think you meant "left holding the bag," but the end result is much more appropriate (and hilarious).
I remember the episode of TFW and when they brought home the two dogs. And she made the biggest deal when one of the pups peed on their basement rug. She was ready to send them back. I can only imagine how she would act if the bird pooped. And it will happen!
sparkle said:
I feel kinda sorry for Mr. Rushie that he's left holding the hag.
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Millicent said... 136
LOL! I think you meant "left holding the bag," but the end result is much more appropriate (and hilarious).
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Missed this first time through - now it's making me LOL!
Perhaps this was already metioned. When I read the article about how to 'train up' a child, it instantly reminded me of when Kate told Jon to 'happy up' Mady. I always felt like that meant to smack her into submission.
Things that happen on Fridays or just before a long weekend tend to not get much press coverage. Mondays are the best days to make announcements if you want your story all over the news. Filing this lawsuit on a Monday was no accident. It didn't work because the mainstream press doesn't care, but it was no accident.
PJ
maybe soon she will have a menagerie to rival michael jacksons zoo, with a zebra, tiger, bubbles the monkey, etc....
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Well she won't be too long catching up with his plastic surgeries.
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Dibs on when she acquires the remains of the Elephant Man.
Nothing yet on the docket today. Is everyone making pies?! :)
Though response is due today, I am guessing we won't SEE anything until Friday.
Maybe she's a bird person, but I just don't see it. I wonder which kid is going to have to clean out the cage.
I really wish she'd not get animals. She doesn't like them and it's not fair to the animals.
I didn't know they had a sister either until Amy showed up on 20 20 talking about how respectful her parents were of her being off tv. I believe she talked about her desire to make it on her own without a show like that. Her parents gave her her space to do that.
reader said... 143
Nothing yet on the docket today. Is everyone making pies?! :)
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Turkey Day prep today:
Made sourdough boule- it's going to be the stuffing after cubed and toasted
Slow Cooker Cheesecake with Raspberry Swirl
Cranberry Orange Compote
Prepped the brussel sprouts for oven roasting
Also, making chicken stock from the carcass from a Costco rotisserie chicken...
ugh...
Oh look, tfw's parrot made the news - NOT!
On the other hand, TMZ is rerunning the story about Hef rejecting her for Playboy.
Notice of Voluntary DIsmissal now on the docket!
always felt like that meant to smack her into submission.
Novemberalways felt like that meant to smack her into submission.
Novemberalways felt like that meant to smack her into submission.
Novemberalways felt like that meant to smack her into submission.
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I always felt like that meant to smack her into submission. 139
I think so too.
Notice of Voluntary DIsmissal now on the docket!
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hahaha! Dang it I have to go to work and will miss the sheep heads exploding! Bu but what about the does?
Willowmom 149
details please!
Tucker's 147
cheesecake recipe please
TIA
Well there blows the Jon agreed to testify against Robert theory out of the water.
We called it, she was just working on the dismissal terms probably didn't want to give up with prejudice to Robert too but probably finally has to resign herself to giving in.
Bottom line she thought she would huff and puff and blow their house down because at the end of the day the biggest bully is her. And when Robert and Jon finally said enough is enough and blew back with hurricane force winds, she ran away crying like a little girl. Because at the end of the day most bullies are cowards.
Congrats Robert and Jon as well.
Rhymes....Entire lawsuit has been dismissed, Does too, without prejudice (which means she could sue again for some other reason).
Voluntary Dismissal? Is this for sure? I wonder how that Ziggy sheep is going to spin this. She insisted that Jon got TFW to drop the charges by agreeing to roll over on Hoffman. But if TFW dismisses the charges against Hoffman...hmmm, maybe she'll claim that Robert agreed to roll over on the unnamed Does?
No wonder TFW is being so chipper on Twitter. Buying this bird was another of her classic deflection techniques. Pay no attention to that pesky lawsuit! Look at my pretty new bird instead! She'll be spewing cute kids sayings and bird stories until this lawsuit story blows over.
How long until Robert re-publishes?
And right before a long-weekend. Called it.
PJ
Does too, without prejudice (which means she could sue again for some other reason).
$$$$
The does being without prejudice makes perfect sense. Robert and Jon don't care if she wants to keep that option, it doesn't affect them. How will the sheeple spin this? They can't say anyone did it in exchange for testimony, they can't say this was for the kids because Robert is not their father and if she were concerned about the kids she never would have filed in the first place.
I can't wait to hear this. I hope they're not busy making pies too. I just did a Sam's Club run and now I'm available to hear this, spin away!
Kate? What a massive, massive mistake and waste of money. But for the sake of your precious children, thank God it's over. So who put you up to this and are you upset at them? Perhaps you should direct your anger toward them.
Willowmom thanks.
Btw, my response (currently 150) to Ellie is a phone fluke. All that was supposed to post were the last 2 sentences.
This is worse than autocorrect! Sorry. :(
Were the charges against Robert dropped with prejudice or without? All I saw mentioned was that the charges against the Does were dismissed without prejudice, but what about Robert?
Can someone please post the live feed website for TFW's Twitter account?
Hahaha, someone posted a link to this blog on TFW's twitter, and mentioned the lawsuit. Then someone else mentioned the dismissal. You know the sheep are all flocking here to see what's going on. Sad that they have to get their information from someone here because their queen won't tell them what's going on. And they're not smart enough to figure out where to get the information themselves.
Congratulations, Robert! Now get that book out there!
I hope Kate feels like a fool now. And good luck to her attorney(s) on collecting their fee from her. Hope she paid a whopper of an upfront retainer.
jolie Jacquelyn said... 159
Can someone please post the live feed website for TFW's Twitter account?
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https://twitter.com/search?q=kateplusmy8&src=typd&f=realtime
What a great way to start the holiday weekend.
Now, to finish up at work, pick up wine & go home to make corn pudding & cranberry salsa for dinner tomorrow. Then I'm cooking the whole dinner on Friday for different side of the family.
Wishing everyone a wonderful Thanksgiving!
Happy Thanksgiving, Robert!
And the news is all about Thanksgiving travel so this item will be buried. TFMJG won't be making a ” why I dropped the lawsuit that was made up in my head” tour.
All I can say is...what a freakin waste of money....she could have gotten more plastic surgery with that money. Or another animal to fill up her empty life.
Well Katie, there's your answer:
You can sue
BUT
"you can't always get what you want."
Will someone at ROL have the kahonas to report that her lawsuit is totally dismissed now, or will it be swept under the rug?
Is it a joint motion orbdidnshe just give up and withdraw??
Happy Hanukka to all our Jewish friends.
Happy Thanksgiving to those celebrating it.
Happy day to all, including Robert and Jon
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sparkle said:
I feel kinda sorry for Mr. Rushie that he's left holding the hag.
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LOL! I think you meant "left holding the bag," but the end result is much more appropriate (and hilarious).
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Oh no, I totally meant to write hag! I gained a tremendous amount of respect for Mr. Rushie for his comments about personal opinion. He seems like a nice guy, I suspect he's taken a raft of crap from TFW over all of this.
Super news about the dismissal! As everyone said, the sheeple spin from the last dismissal was priceless- what could they possibly say about this!!!! I'm on the edge of my seat with anticipation!
I wonder if the sheeple will follow Chief Ewe over that cliff.
I hear a lot of popping! Is that popcorn or sheeple heads. Either way, ready for an entertaining evening, got my rumspringa and crocs
GO ROBERT, all I want for Christmas is a new book})
BATTLESTATIONS, RED ALERT, Lmao
franky
Wednesday night before Thanksgiving. Four days off before the real news get back in full swing. An absolute dumping ground for bad news. That is classic Kate, trying to trick people with gimmicks and snack oil like dumping bad news on the quietest news day of the year. Well Kate, we're onto your games this time. This won't be dumped, not here at least.
Thank you PatK.
Happy Thanksgiving to everyone below the border. Hope you & your loved ones travel safely.
Layla (159), the way I read the Dismissal the entire thing is dismissed without prejudice.
You know for fun sometime we should do a talk like you're typing on a too small keyboard day like Franky. I think our Franky would have a good sense of humor about that. :) And she could interpret!
You know what's interesting is Kate never backs down. What happened? Who talked some sense into her? It would have had to be someone she really respects like Steve. Either that or she got a big bill and they actually demanded payment. I imagine all these games aren't as fun when they cost you tens of thousands of dollars.
omg, omg, omg, omg....Admin mail coming!
GO ROBERT, all I want for Christmas is a new book}) 172
Me too!
Or could be someone told her exactly how discovery would work....
Snake oil. Although snack oil sounds interesting.
Sheeple crisis alert
MAYDAY MAYDAY.... MAN YOUR STATIONS.... STAY ALERT FOR OFFICIAL INSTRUCTIONS FROM OUR LEADER... REPEAT.. THIS IS NOT A DRILL.. AS OUTLINED IN THE MANUAL- DENY, DENY, DENY UNTIL FURTHER INSTRUCTIONS ARE GIVEN... FABRICATE IF YOU MUST, DO NOT VALIDATE THE OFFICIAL COURT DOCKET OR ADMIT DEFEAT... MAYDAY, MAYDAY!!!!!!!!
Thanks, Willowmom!
I wonder whether TFW tried to get Robert to agree to drop any possible counterclaims against her with prejudice, and in return she would drop the charges against him with prejudice. No way would Robert play her little games. TFW better hope Robert doesn't sue her for this ridiculous little stunt she pulled.
Umm, snack oil. 178
Extra virgin olive oil, some herbs and a bit of crushed red pepper for dipping good bread. I'm down with that.
Lol Admin, sounds good, I am fluent in Android Stoopidity!!!
=P
franky
OT but if thoughts translated into calories, this blog would put me in serious jeopardy!
Especially the past few days. :)
sunny said... 182
Sheeple crisis alert
MAYDAY MAYDAY.... MAN YOUR STATIONS.... STAY ALERT FOR OFFICIAL INSTRUCTIONS FROM OUR LEADER... REPEAT.. THIS IS NOT A DRILL.. AS OUTLINED IN THE MANUAL- DENY, DENY, DENY UNTIL FURTHER INSTRUCTIONS ARE GIVEN... FABRICATE IF YOU MUST, DO NOT VALIDATE THE OFFICIAL COURT DOCKET OR ADMIT DEFEAT... MAYDAY, MAYDAY!!!!!!!!
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OMG. LMAO!!!!
Why did she back down? I think she finally ran into the trifecta of no substance, too much money and attorneys who were not interested in either losing or not getting paid. Perhaps they sensed her lack of interest in paying them. LOL
So thus the bird - the perfect (not) cover for things not going her way. And in her warped little mind, cheaper than a new car. So sure spend 1K on a parrot, just in time to make the children feel sad about going to Dad's for the holiday. Interesting that she has nothing to say about all the friends coming to join them for turkey and pie.
Pretty ready here, after a few weeks of shopping and prepping, and cooking the past few days. Last project is DH and his pumpkin pies tonight. Going to join family at the beach for dinner tomorrow, actually not unhappy to not be hosting this year. New traditions, which is the blessing of having extended family and friends. But it is also the reward of cultivating these relationships over a lifetime, this is what Kate fails to understand and the gift she is NOT giving her children. There is no easy fix, no easy out, no easy $$$.
Lol sunny 182
Happy Thanksgiving Robert.
I wonder if Robert has filed suit. The clip on his page sure seems to point in that direction.
PJ
I am exploring a bookstore on vacation and not one copy of Love is in the Mix. However, they have several copies of Cooking with Coolio, the Ghetto Gourmet! Hahahahahaha! It's cute and funny too!
FRP
I do believe the sheeple are trying to keep the head explosions on the down-low via DMs with each other. Bwahahaha.
Well, well, well, that's why she bought the bird. To deflect from the lawsuit. Yay for Robert and Jon. I'll bet she's beyond angry.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=j7leQB_Oe_k
You Can't Always Get What You Want....KATE!
Congrats to Robert. You beat the bully. Not many have been able to say/do that.
I have mixed feelings about what happens next bc of the kids, but I 100% agree that Kate brought it all on herself. I am also sure she will learn nothing form it.
Enjoy the Holiday everyone.
New post on Gosslinbook. Funny!
Why is Amazon still selling this awful sick Pearl book? I'm horrified.
I agree, Cheri! Especially several children have died due to the trainings. Michael Pearl is a demon from HADES!!! Anyone who would promote the hitting of a infant on their skin with plastic tubing or a wooden spoon is hideously insane.
This is not normal. We all know that! When we read what kate did to Joel, pulling him up by the hair of his 2 year old head into his crib and beaten with the wooden spoon into the crib. You don't treat your babies and children like animals. That book should be banned. Isn't the publisher afraid of repercussions of the recent deaths this teaching has caused?
I read some of what Robert put up and I was getting sick. I couldn't read anymore.
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