Jon should be a role model. Eight pairs of eyes watch him. Instead, he tells the kids reality tv is bad, then goes On a reality tv show. He's modelling poor 'boyfriend' material to his girls and showing his boys that women are replaceable.
Look, no one is perfect but sheesh. Shut up and be a dad Mr. Gosselin. You know, like the rest of us!
No, no pass for this from me. If dignity and morality mean selling out your sex life, Jon fails my 'dad' test. ANd there's only 2 things on it: a sense of dignity of oneself and others and moral behaviour.
I think we've evolved more into a society where if you don't want to watch you don't have to, YOU decide what you think is appropriate for you to see or not. Every show on TV has a little rating in the corner. If you see something TV14 or MA don't watch. Couples Therapy is TV14 with descriptive language, so it's fair warning. I prefer this as opposed to a society where government or censorship boards or what have you decide what we can and can't see.
Instead, he tells the kids reality tv is bad, then goes On a reality tv show.
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He never told his kids that. He told the kids that as your dad I've decided reality T.V. is bad for YOU. He even said himself I never said I would never do reality T.V. myself. Lots of things that are bad for kids, adults do freely. Like sex, drinking, smoking, and even going on reality T.V.
It's apples and oranges to compare a consenting adult going on reality T.V. with a child. I don't like most reality T.V. but I'd never dream of telling any consenting adult they don't have a right to go on it. That's the whole point is consent, and my whole issue with children is they are too young to make informed consent. Their brains are not yet developed enough to understand the consequences.
As for her BIL being a story on ROL, I agree that it smacks of Kate BUT if Kate has nothing to do with her family and she herself initiated the split, Kate may not even be aware of what is happening with any of her family,
______________ Kate's nosy. I have no doubt that she knows what goes on in her family. That doesn't mean that she was involved in putting the story out there, but I certainly believe that she's aware of family happenings.
"So if it was not Kate, my best guess as to who would go fishing for negative info online, anything to squash Kendra's comments, would be a certain sheeple that has been known to discredit people - including calling employers to try to get them fired - if they dare to take off their rose colored glasses and see Kate as the person she truly is."
__________________ That wouldn't surprise me at all. I still think, though, that the head ewe was involved somehow. It's no coincidence that she recently wanted to spill some beans to a ghost writer.
I am watching this show because Jon and Liz are on but I cannot help but notice what is going on with the other couples.
Specifically Ghost and Kelsey. Ghost tells Dr Jen that he wants both of his girlfriends to meet because it would help him make up his mind and choose one over the other, but the doctor points out how hurtful that would be to Kelsey since she does not even know about the other GF that he has been seeing for the past 2 years.
BUT YET if you watched what is happening next week, Ghost is going to have both girlfriends on and the three of them will be talking to Dr. Jen.
Best therapeutic move by the doctor? Or just something the show's producers decided to do for ratings?
OK I have a question. Where did we get that the ghost writer writes for ROL? I thought as a celebrity ghost writer she writes books that they sign their name to. Cough...TCFW perhaps?
Seinfeld also had a masturbation episode that was hysterical too. This was early 90's. We've been talking about it for awhile now.
In the episode George's MOTHER catches him masturbating and is horrified. "Too bad you can't do THAT for a living, you'd be very successful at it!" Hysterical:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBxhAa5zy-4
There is also another episode which is considered by many to be in the top five greatest Seinfeld episodes ever, in which the four friends make a bet about how can hold out from masturbating the longest. They feel like it's not fair Elaine the only woman joins the bet, but then she ends up first out because she keeps fantasizing about John Kennedy Jr., who is in her gym class! lol
Masturbation has been freely discussed on T.V. for at least two decades. The pearl clutching is a bit much especially about someone who never claimed to be tight-laced or righteous, like Kate does.
Eh, the show is trashy, no question. But I see from most of the participants that they all want to be there and work on themselves, and that is far and away better than refusing to even admit there is a problem in the first place.
Why does it matter who we would want around our kids? That's not really the issue here. Probably most people on TV you wouldn't want around YOUR kids, it doesn't necessarily make them unfit to parent their own kids.
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Just a friendly request. There are a LOT of name changes recently, anonymous this time people and various names that fit the situation and so on.
Please don't do that. It makes the blog seem way too drive by and lessens accountability. It's only a step above posting anonymous. It also makes it harder to get to know each other, which is part of the fun of this blog. Part of the very first rule is to stick to the same name. Please follow it. Pick one and stay with it.
He's modelling poor 'boyfriend' material to his girls and showing his boys that women are replaceable.
_______________ By dating he's showing his sons that women are replaceable? I guess then that there are quite a few single fathers out there who are teaching their boys the same thing.
Admin - I think the Seinfeld episodes that you're talking about are one in the same. They have "the contest" because George tells them about his mother catching him masturbating, yada, yada, yada.
I'm wondering if some of these Jon haters are the same person? There's a "tell" I've noticed in several of the posts. It's fine to have a different opinion from most of the other posters, but trying to appear like a crowd won't help the cause. And if you hate the things most of the other posters say, maybe there are other blogs where you'd feel more comfortable and less frustrated? Just my opinion, of course!
Admin - I think the Seinfeld episodes that you're talking about are one in the same. They have "the contest" because George tells them about his mother catching him masturbating, yada, yada, yada.
Admin - I think the Seinfeld episodes that you're talking about are one in the same. They have "the contest" because George tells them about his mother catching him masturbating, yada, yada, yada. ***** "I'm out!"
FlimsyFlamsy said... 14 And if you hate the things most of the other posters say, maybe there are other blogs where you'd feel more comfortable and less frustrated?
Eh, the show is trashy, no question. But I see from most of the participants that they all want to be there and work on themselves, and that is far and away better than refusing to even admit there is a problem in the first place.
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I disagree that the show is completely trashy. In fact I actually can see how it could help people who watch this show, how they might see some parallels in these couples and their own relationship and if it helps people make a positive difference in their lives, I'm all for it.
Also in addition to these couples admitting they have their problems, because these couples are celebs they not only get "free" therapy but they are paid for their appearance on the show, not to mention the vacation they get too.
Re Ghost and cheating ~ I was told a long time ago that once a cheater they are always a cheater, and if you cheated with the person to get them from their previous spouse/significant other, at some point in time someone else will come along and the same will happen to you. Also, if you are involved with someone who cheats then they eventually are going to cheat, and it does not matter if you put a fence around them that is horse high, pig tight and bull tough -- if they want to cheat they are going to find a way out to do it. However one needs to remember at all times that YOU are NOT the reason that the cheater is cheating -- no matter how much blame they try to lay on you -- noooo that is all on the cheater as to why they cheat.
No, FlimsyFlamsy. No conspiracy here. There's just more than one of us who obviously thinks Jon is a doofus.
I'm no more frustrated as when we are railing about Kate. I just happen to feel the same way about Jon. It's the kids that keep me here as i'm sure keep many here.
Thelma said: No, no pass for this from me. If dignity and morality mean selling out your sex life, Jon fails my 'dad' test. ANd there's only 2 things on it: a sense of dignity of oneself and others and moral behaviour. ***************** Not even "unconditional love for your children"? More important to look dignified to the outside world than love your children so much you might be willing to be embarrassed on TV in order to earn a big paycheck?
LOL - another Seinfeld phrase "master of my domain." I remember that episode and it is hilarious. Yes, the topic of masturbation has been around as long as humanity, because it's a natural part of sexuality.
Just a friendly request. There are a LOT of name changes recently, anonymous this time people and various names that fit the situation and so on.
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I can understand those who sometimes post as "anonymous this time" might be regulars who want to share something but are reluctant to reveal the IDs under which they usually post. However, the ones who have been commenting under names that fit the content of their posts more often than not are sheeple. You can smell them a barnyard away.
Masterbation might be 'normal' but it's NOT normal to talk about on television! What has society come to??
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I'm not sure I agree with such a broad statement about masturbation. Why can't we discuss something normal, natural and harmless? &&&&&&&&&& But he didn't just discuss it. He engaged in it with cameras present. Sex is perfectly normal but that doesn't mean you should have sex on your front lawn with your neighbors watching. Children need to be taught boundaries. Jon modeled completely inappropriate behavior for his children.
I'm no more frustrated as when we are railing about Kate. I just happen to feel the same way about Jon. It's the kids that keep me here as i'm sure keep many here.
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Keep you here? Thelma, are you a regular poster here? I don't recall seeing your posts here, but then again, I don't read every post.
Millicent said... 26 LOL - another Seinfeld phrase "master of my domain." I remember that episode and it is hilarious. Yes, the topic of masturbation has been around as long as humanity, because it's a natural part of sexuality.
Wendy has her Hot Topics Video up! TFW is around 9:15 (and it's a goodie) :) I love how Wendy calls it like it is, even if a couple of the facts (like living in the same neighborhood) are a little off.
Actually from what I saw Jon did not masturbate. He said he was planning to but then Liz walked in. Nothing was ever shown of him or anyone else doing that.
It's irrelevant what he was going to do. For all we know he meant I was going to go to the bathroom or shower and do it. We have no idea what woulda coulda shoulda happened since it never did.
In any case, I wasn't responding to what Jon did or didn't do or making a judgment about that. I was responding to the broad statement about what was society come to merely for DISCUSSING masturbation.
Wendy has her Hot Topics Video up! TFW is around 9:15 (and it's a goodie) :) I love how Wendy calls it like it is, even if a couple of the facts (like living in the same neighborhood) are a little off.
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Wouldn't you think by now that the producers would have told Wendy that Kate's last name isn't Gosling?
Time and Place said... 28 But he didn't just discuss it. He engaged in it with cameras present. Sex is perfectly normal but that doesn't mean you should have sex on your front lawn with your neighbors watching. Children need to be taught boundaries. Jon modeled completely inappropriate behavior for his children.
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Didn't admin, in #12 just ask that posters not use names that fit the situation/post?
Jon engaged in masturbating and the cameras were present while he did it? How did I miss that?
Is this the same poster who has been commenting under various names for the past few days?
Time & Place, did Jon make a porno video? I didn't see him "engage" in anything with cameras present (other than talking about it). Did you actually watch the show or are you going by comments you've read?
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Here are the pathetic tweets:
Lauren @ljohnson2006 12h #FF @Kateplusmy8 and some of her amazing fans @MiloandJack @msgoody2shoes21 @Paige_Kate8fan @CrazyforKate @Truth_Teller201. Constant support
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 2h @ljohnson2006 @Kateplusmy8 @msgoody2shoes21 @Paige_Kate8fan @CrazyforKate @Truth_Teller201 Back at ya! It's what women should do 4ea other! ------------------------------------------
Blech! I am so glad my women friends don't need "constant support." I can't imagine having to email and phone them daily platitudes about how to enjoy the day, how fabulous they are, how strong they are........
A friend of mine was in the hospital a while back. We friends supported her with visits, taking her things she needed, phone calls, help when she returned home. She's all better now and doesn't appear to need "constant support.
Maybe my friends are just more self assured. If these fans thank women need constant support they, themselves, must need it. Don't paint everyone with the same irritating, needy brush.
Why would such a strong woman as the fans think Kate is need constant support anyway? They make we want to hurl.
Ok...done with the spew. Back to masturbation conversation.
Blech! I am so glad my women friends don't need "constant support." I can't imagine having to email and phone them daily platitudes about how to enjoy the day, how fabulous they are, how strong they are........ $$$
Time and Place said... 28 But he didn't just discuss it. He engaged in it with cameras present.
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No he did not!
If you were to take the time and watch the episode, all you would see is Liz walking into a bedroom where Jon was completely covered by the comforter from head to toe.
Further, if Liz had not said a word we viewers would all be clueless and just assumed Jon was either just waking up or about to take a nap.
Methinks it's time for a sheep to find another pasture. The same person posting here is getting to be rather tiresome, especially when it's clear that he/she never watched the show and makes assertions that just aren't true. Stirring the pot gets to be so boring.
This idea that women have to support someone just because they have a vagina is abhorrent to me. I side with the person who is right, not the one with the right parts.
I had a friend who'd gone through an abusive marriage and was in the midst of a messy divorce. (I now think she's a borderline personality who was married to first one narcissist and then another.) I testified at her divorce--I had kept track of the beatings and photographed her bruises.
For a time, she expected me to email her each morning--I was a writer working from home and also homeschooling. She was at work. I'd email, she'd respond. She craved (nearly demanded) that "constant support."
I recently found a daily to do list from that time--and I had actually put emailing her onto my daily list! I shake my head. I would never do that now.
First, it was exhausting as you all have said.
Second, it was a burden on me. (I had my own life and plenty to fill it.)
Third, she was rarely there for me when I had a real need.
Fourth, when she met narcissistic husband #2, she dropped our friendship like a hot potato. I sometimes see her now in the grocery store, and she sticks her nose in the air or ducks down an aisle. She does not speak.
I was used--and would be angry, except I did help her escape that marriage along with her three children who were being physically and emotionally hurt by their father. He was very dangerous.
So would I help her to escape again? Yes. Would I be "constant support"? A big N-O. Live and learn!
These fans are being used the same way. Maybe one day they, too, will get it.
(A side note: her narcissistic husband #1 recently had three more children, each a year apart, with a new very young wife--his fourth wife. Their oldest child is 4. They separated/divorced and then she "died unexpectedly." Suddenly, he was the grieving husband. No one I know knows what happened. And I'm suspicious...)
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Kramer was sitting beside Elaine and he had a drink cup in his hand with a straw that was bouncing around because he was laughing with his mouth open trying to get the straw! To me, that was the funniest part seeing Kramer doing that. So funny.
LOL - another Seinfeld phrase "master of my domain." I remember that episode and it is hilarious. Yes, the topic of masturbation has been around as long as humanity, because it's a natural part of sexuality.
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There wasn't a subject on Seinfeld that a person couldn't relate to. The guy covered it all, even nose picking. I've been watching 'Comedians in cars getting coffee' episodes on what else, but comediansincarsgettingcoffee.com.
OT what everyone wants to see this week is the super super bowl! I an waiting for the CT recap from admin. This week there are just too many really exciting basketball games on TV, then all the super bowl lead up, then the olympics begin next Friday. then the run up to the NCAA basketball championship! Lots of fun stuff going on! As for Ghostface Killah having two girlfriends, i'm not shocked. The man is part of a legendary and influential music group, and arguably the member with the most successful solo career as a rapper. of course he had more than one girlfriend. What would you expect from someone in a group with Ol' Dirty Bastard? Wu Tang history and achievements of the members are so interesting. RZA is a record producer and wrote part of the score for Kill Bill. Method Man is actor, singer. Inspectah Deck is very successful producer. The group changed recording business practices to encourage financial and creative independence for the artists associated with it. They were a big group, but every member could go and do solo projects, and on those projects often other band members helped. They have nurtured young talent. There are some cautionary parts of the group story. Ol' Dirty Bastard died of a drug overdose in the recording studio. A couple of members spent time incarcerated. The history of the group, and their influence on hip hop, rap, and even the business model are fascinating. Teen Duck Lips can learn a lot about being an entrepreneur from Ghostface Killah. Note: the Wu tang names were inspired by kung fu movie Shaolin and the Wu Tang.
I'm confused (nothing new there). Are you saying that if these kids were med students they wouldn't understand the concept of masturbation? [[[[[[[[[[[ No, what I meant is that if they had a high enough IQ and were attending college and studying medicine, they may know the text book explanation of the word and motions but would not understand the full maturity of the word at the age of 10. Their brain can't understand the full ramifications until it is fully developed.
I hope that explains it better. If not, we can drop it. I'm not sure where to go from here. One thing I do know, I'm not a genius. It's only my thoughts and understanding. I could be wrong.
My family and I went to see Jerry Seinfeld at Caesar's Palace in Las Vegas over the holidays. It was such a good show. It was all new material to me and I laughed nonstop for almost 90 minutes. Normally I wouldn't go see a stand up comedian, but Jerry is truly a master of comedy. He has such high energy and his routines are so well crafted and all without (to me) annoying expletives. He has a real grasp of both verbal and body language and connects so easily with the audience. If any one has the chance to go see him I would highly recommend it.
OT - I found Coconut Oil this morning at.... KROGER! Yep, I thought, what the heck, I'll look for it as long as I'm at the grocery store anyway and low and behold, there it was! They had a lot to choose from, cold packed, regular pressed, organic, regular, different brands, etc.
Thank you to everyone who suggested it and the tips on where to find it.
SwingsandRoundabouts said... 50 My family and I went to see Jerry Seinfeld at Caesar's Palace in Las Vegas over the holidays. It was such a good show. It was all new material to me and I laughed nonstop for almost 90 minutes. Normally I wouldn't go see a stand up comedian, but Jerry is truly a master of comedy. He has such high energy and his routines are so well crafted and all without (to me) annoying expletives. He has a real grasp of both verbal and body language and connects so easily with the audience. If any one has the chance to go see him I would highly recommend it.
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My friend went to see him in Atlantic City and said he was awesome. He really is funny
I woke up this morning to read what I missed and cracked up at JoyInVirginia's encyclopedic knowledge of the rap world (#48)! Dancin' With Them Thar Stars fan, college sports lover, virtual tour guide extraordinaire, and hip-hop aficionado...you're a well-rounded girl, Joy! So many interesting and swell folks on this blog.
I noticed the kumbaya email about the women who support Kate left out Em -- hope she didn't get her feelings hurt. Although her choice in a heroine is questionable to me, she seems like a kind girl at heart.
Sam McGrath @sammc243 1h Hey @Kateplusmy8 just checking in seeing how my friend is doing. Any update on #BeKindGetSigned . Did you read about Steven the Snowman?
@Kateplusmy8: Finally home from last kid pick up of night! Whew, was a marathon 4mom just staying awake long enough til pick up X #9safe&asleep #blessed ======== As always deflect, deflect, deflect. Ignore that article bout my sister's husband because I picked up my kids from activities and I stayed awake to do it. My question were they really out so late that you'd be so tired? You don't work a 9-5. You seemingly sit home all day while the kids are in school. She's trying to make us think that all 8 were in different places hence the marathon pick up. Not buying it at all.
My son and I saw Jerry doing his stand up and he was spectacular! I just read there is a Seinfeld reunion in the works. YEA!
Here's a link to the book that the above blogger wrote: Divorcing A Narcissist: One Mom's Battle. She details her harrowing experience with the court system. She's a woman and the mom, so I can't imagine the uphill battle Jon has been fighting! &&&&&&
Wow, wow and wow. That woman's ex is a male version of Kate.
She has what she calls a "narc decoder" where she translates the narcissist's words into what the narc really is saying. Her take on Christmas for the narcissist really struck me.
"For some reason, the holidays seem to bring out the “best” in the narcissist. It seems like they escalate like the Grinch on steroids. Court filings seem to increase along with the dreaded emails which call for the Narc Decoder. Most holiday emails, when processed through my Narc Decoder will read something like this:" “I envy that you can feel joy. I hate when people feel joy because it is a feeling that I will never know. Because the theme of the season is ‘Peace and Joy,’ I am going to strike hard and ensure that you feel as cold, dark and empty as I feel. You are not allowed to experience happiness unless I have approved it and we all know that will never happen.“
Or, there's this email Tina decoded for one of her readers:
Narcissist: “I wish I had a mirror to have you see how you come across in your presentation. Maybe there would be a slim possibility you could see how angry, inflexible, demanding a person that you are. Why would anybody want to work anything out with you! You do not know the first thing about being accomodating, understanding, or professional for any matters. So you run to your attorney to find solutions. Besides, the selfishness that is your true self. All you know to do is fight, fight, fight. How very sad because one day it will have an effect on your existence if you keep it up. Find a better way to channel your anger that life is not fair for you or you may face the consequences. Soon there will be no need to consider “the Family Wizard” for communication because I will rarely have any contact with you except to discuss logistics. So it is totally off the table. Period. I, too, have plans for myself and our daughter, so you are not privileged in setting what weekend day we do the exchange. In fact, as I said before, I gave you 18 months of many episodes of flexibility and that will not be easy to get anymore. You cannot make Sundays a unilateral condition for hours that were decided by my employer, speaking of being unilateral. Life does not care what you think! I will not waste anymore of my valuable time today with your expressions of whining and discontent.”
Email after being decoded: I wish I had a mirror right now so that I could see myself. I could spend hours staring into my own eyes. Have I told you lately how angry I am at the loss of power since our marriage ended? Yes, I’m angry, inflexible and demanding and all of those feelings have escalated tremendously since I can no longer control you. Damn you. I refuse to compromise or work anything out with you- it’s my way or the highway. Didn’t you read the fine print on the pre-nup? I do not know the first thing about being accommodating, understanding or professional but instead of taking ownership for my own shortcomings; I am going to project my faults on to you. Heck, it’s always worked in the past. I hate that you have an attorney to turn to for advice- why can’t you just let me continue to control and manipulate you?! It’s quite infuriating. I love to fight, fight, fight. This constant drama feeds me because I know that it affects you. I LOVE to affect you. Speaking of love, did you know that I am actually incapable of that? Thank God I am so manipulative because I am able to fool women just like I fooled you. Have you seen my mirror lately? Aren’t you supposed to keep track of my things?
I think that tweeter ljohnson (Lauren) is sending out these tweets to all Kate's die hard fans because she wants to be one of them. She sends out tweets praising them for supporting Kate, knowing they will send tweets back to all the others and include her. Then she feels like she's one of them. She desperately wants to be included, although I don't get the feeling that she is really a big Kate supporter. She isn't in it to praise Kate, she/s in it to fight with non-fans. Everything she tweets seems designed to get a rise out of the non-fans so they will fight with her.
One she sent a couple days ago, when Kate broke her twitter silence, said something about how we have Kate back on twitter, now we just need her and the kids back on TV once a week. She knew that would get a rise out of non-fans, who do not want the kids to be exploited on TV again, and who also realize that after 2 1/2 years, no network wants Kate. Lauren apparently also apparently hate-tweets other celebs. She just wants attention and wants to fight. She seems like a very sad and very angry person.
Kate likes to make sure her fans know what a super mom she is for staying up late and making those pickup runs to gather her children!! If she was picking up twins, I hope she took all the others with her and didn't leave them alone that late.
Will she tweet when she has to run and rescue one of them from an unpleasant situation? Yeah, doubt it.
Thanks flimsy flamsy, I read a lot. Those academic research journals Rolling Stone and People especially! Plus you can learn a lot from family members and friends. The nephews who are big sports fans, the brother in laws who are football fanatics. The son in law who is the gaming expert. The husband and children who keep up on what is new and classic in music. The neighbor who is active in local Theatre and arts scene. the cousin who is interested in history and genealogy. It goes on and on. You can learn so much by just talking to people! All you have to do is express interest and listen, and people will share their interests with you! Of course, first you have to want to learn. Something TFMJG does not have any interest in doing. Too sad for her.
She just wants attention and wants to fight. She seems like a very sad and very angry person.
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I think she's a young person, but doesn't seem to have a job other than tweeting hate to various celebrities and praise to the HLN anchors. Not sure what her story is, but yes, she is a master baiter. For awhile every one of tweets showed her obsession with bullying, hating and trolling.
She desperately wants to be one of them, Kate's inner circle, but she's also comes up with some of the dumbest stuff that just makes you shake your head.
PatK(58) Kate tweets about picking up the kids so she gets the word out that they were somewhere other than locked up at home. The kids rarely get to leave the house, and everyone knows that. She think she's setting people straight--"See! My kids were somewhere in public! With other people!" but it just underscores how rarely the kids get to leave. And of course it was just the twins. The tups don't get to go anywhere.
Layla agree with you about that particular tweeter. I think she's a school bus driver. Between runs she seems to watch a lot of court TV, send hate tweets to celebs she doesn't like and tweet-fight with non fans of K8. I also agree that she wants to be a part of the inner circle of fans. She also seems to be obsessed with CT and tweets them constantly but hasn't mentioned or slammed Jon yet.
Joy, I agree about TFW not listening to people. Someone recently brought up the train conductor, who enthusiastically shared something about "Hello Dolly," and TFW was pretty much mocking him. To me, if someone is "jazzed" about what they're talking about, right away I want to hear more -- even if it's not something I ordinarily would be interested in.
I thought the train guy was endearing, and probably loved his job. How sad (and embarrassing) for him to have watched TFW's response when the episode aired. Has she no intellectual curiosity?
Kate tweets about picking up the kids so she gets the word out that they were somewhere other than locked up at home. The kids rarely get to leave the house, and everyone knows that. She think she's setting people straight--"See! My kids were somewhere in public! With other people!" but it just underscores how rarely the kids get to leave. And of course it was just the twins. The tups don't get to go anywhere.
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The twins (or one of them) probably went to Roundtop (ski) after school and didn't get back until midnight or so. Other parents had to pick up their kids. Kate makes it seem like she's the only one who had to stay awake -- such an awesome mom.
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I guess its part of Kate's mental issues, but I've never seen a mother want kudos for doing those things that Mom's do every single second of every single day.
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 35m Gosselin kid Lego designers and builders are at it again... Guesses as to who built this unique one? pic.twitter.com/7OLPx58Iwv
Unique? It's a truck! Hurry...enroll the kid in engineering/construction school. What does she do? Looks at one of their projects and thinks, "Quick, grab a picture for my tweeties. This should get a response from them, lots of praise, so adorable!"
It does beg the question for this poor single mom, if she has to go out and pick up a teen late at night, does she leave everyone else alone in the house asleep? Scary. Too bad she has zero friends with whom she can carpool in a situation like this. Or god forbid, now that her ex is living closer, she could have a friendly arrangement for this kind of thing.
Unique? It's a truck! Hurry...enroll the kid in engineering/construction school. What does she do? Looks at one of their projects and thinks, "Quick, grab a picture for my tweeties. This should get a response from them, lots of praise, so adorable!"
_______________________ That brought in at least 50 guesses. Gotta breathe some life into that dead timeline somehow!
"I think she's a young person, but doesn't seem to have a job other than tweeting hate to various celebrities and praise to the HLN anchors. Not sure what her story is, but yes, she is a master baiter. For awhile every one of tweets showed her obsession with bullying, hating and trolling."
_____________________ Yup! Back to the "bullying" thing again!
Lauren @ljohnson2006 2m What do @Kateplusmy8 bullies put for their occupation? Professional bully? Wonder how that flies...
Unique? It's a square truck. The Lego sets come with directions to build things. Kids are almost 10. Now if my 3 yr old grandson, who cannot read yet, build that . . . .woman is an utter fool.
Lauren apparently also apparently hate-tweets other celebs. She just wants attention and wants to fight. She seems like a very sad and very angry person.
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Agree. She's been sending very nasty tweets to Farrah, and then turns around and tries to get Kate's non-fans to fight with her, while popping out rainbows about how everyone should be positive and love the world.
Lauren @ljohnson2006 Jan 31 Have a positive day. No one has time for negativity.
There's just something not right there. The non-fans just need to switch her off and ignore.
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 275 of 275 Newer› Newest»Jon should be a role model. Eight pairs of eyes watch him. Instead, he tells the kids reality tv is bad, then goes On a reality tv show. He's modelling poor 'boyfriend' material to his girls and showing his boys that women are replaceable.
Look, no one is perfect but sheesh. Shut up and be a dad Mr. Gosselin. You know, like the rest of us!
No, no pass for this from me. If dignity and morality mean selling out your sex life, Jon fails my 'dad' test. ANd there's only 2 things on it: a sense of dignity of oneself and others and moral behaviour.
I think we've evolved more into a society where if you don't want to watch you don't have to, YOU decide what you think is appropriate for you to see or not. Every show on TV has a little rating in the corner. If you see something TV14 or MA don't watch. Couples Therapy is TV14 with descriptive language, so it's fair warning. I prefer this as opposed to a society where government or censorship boards or what have you decide what we can and can't see.
Instead, he tells the kids reality tv is bad, then goes On a reality tv show.
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He never told his kids that. He told the kids that as your dad I've decided reality T.V. is bad for YOU. He even said himself I never said I would never do reality T.V. myself. Lots of things that are bad for kids, adults do freely. Like sex, drinking, smoking, and even going on reality T.V.
It's apples and oranges to compare a consenting adult going on reality T.V. with a child. I don't like most reality T.V. but I'd never dream of telling any consenting adult they don't have a right to go on it. That's the whole point is consent, and my whole issue with children is they are too young to make informed consent. Their brains are not yet developed enough to understand the consequences.
As for her BIL being a story on ROL, I agree that it smacks of Kate BUT if Kate has nothing to do with her family and she herself initiated the split, Kate may not even be aware of what is happening with any of her family,
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Kate's nosy. I have no doubt that she knows what goes on in her family. That doesn't mean that she was involved in putting the story out there, but I certainly believe that she's aware of family happenings.
"So if it was not Kate, my best guess as to who would go fishing for negative info online, anything to squash Kendra's comments, would be a certain sheeple that has been known to discredit people - including calling employers to try to get them fired - if they dare to take off their rose colored glasses and see Kate as the person she truly is."
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That wouldn't surprise me at all. I still think, though, that the head ewe was involved somehow. It's no coincidence that she recently wanted to spill some beans to a ghost writer.
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I am watching this show because Jon and Liz are on but I cannot help but notice what is going on with the other couples.
Specifically Ghost and Kelsey. Ghost tells Dr Jen that he wants both of his girlfriends to meet because it would help him make up his mind and choose one over the other, but the doctor points out how hurtful that would be to Kelsey since she does not even know about the other GF that he has been seeing for the past 2 years.
BUT YET if you watched what is happening next week, Ghost is going to have both girlfriends on and the three of them will be talking to Dr. Jen.
Best therapeutic move by the doctor? Or just something the show's producers decided to do for ratings?
OK I have a question. Where did we get that the ghost writer writes for ROL? I thought as a celebrity ghost writer she writes books that they sign their name to. Cough...TCFW perhaps?
Thelma (187)
Both Jon and Kate can kiss my freezing cold butt.
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I seriously doubt that the above-mentioned activity is on the top of their to-do list or chore chart.
Seinfeld also had a masturbation episode that was hysterical too. This was early 90's. We've been talking about it for awhile now.
In the episode George's MOTHER catches him masturbating and is horrified. "Too bad you can't do THAT for a living, you'd be very successful at it!" Hysterical:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBxhAa5zy-4
There is also another episode which is considered by many to be in the top five greatest Seinfeld episodes ever, in which the four friends make a bet about how can hold out from masturbating the longest. They feel like it's not fair Elaine the only woman joins the bet, but then she ends up first out because she keeps fantasizing about John Kennedy Jr., who is in her gym class! lol
Masturbation has been freely discussed on T.V. for at least two decades. The pearl clutching is a bit much especially about someone who never claimed to be tight-laced or righteous, like Kate does.
Eh, the show is trashy, no question. But I see from most of the participants that they all want to be there and work on themselves, and that is far and away better than refusing to even admit there is a problem in the first place.
I wouldn't want either of them around my kids.
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Why does it matter who we would want around our kids? That's not really the issue here. Probably most people on TV you wouldn't want around YOUR kids, it doesn't necessarily make them unfit to parent their own kids.
Is there something like a Canadian dissing as opposed to a US dissing? Do they diss differently in Canada? Auntie Ann would know! :)
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It's the same diss but with an "eh" at the end?
Hehe but seriously it is very annoying about videos like youtube and netflix and other countries. I feel for you!
Milo tweeted:
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 48m
@ljohnson2006 @Kateplusmy8 @msgoody2shoes21 @Paige_Kate8fan @CrazyforKate @Truth_Teller201 Back at ya! It's what women should do 4ea other!
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I'm almost afraid to ask what Milo wants women to do for each other!
Just a friendly request. There are a LOT of name changes recently, anonymous this time people and various names that fit the situation and so on.
Please don't do that. It makes the blog seem way too drive by and lessens accountability. It's only a step above posting anonymous. It also makes it harder to get to know each other, which is part of the fun of this blog. Part of the very first rule is to stick to the same name. Please follow it. Pick one and stay with it.
Thelma, this is 2014!
Jon says masturbation is normal.
Kate probably shames them to hell. And beats the crap out of them,
Which is healthier??
He's modelling poor 'boyfriend' material to his girls and showing his boys that women are replaceable.
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By dating he's showing his sons that women are replaceable? I guess then that there are quite a few single fathers out there who are teaching their boys the same thing.
gabby2, neither. It's not a contest with a winner. These kids need a parent. A STABLE parent. Neither Jon or Kate are good role models as parents.
Robert has a new post up.
Admin - I think the Seinfeld episodes that you're talking about are one in the same. They have "the contest" because George tells them about his mother catching him masturbating, yada, yada, yada.
I'm wondering if some of these Jon haters are the same person?
There's a "tell" I've noticed in several of the posts. It's fine to have
a different opinion from most of the other posters, but trying to appear like a crowd won't help the cause. And if you hate the things most of the other posters say, maybe there are other blogs where you'd feel more comfortable and less frustrated? Just my opinion, of course!
NJGal51 said... 13
Robert has a new post up.
Admin - I think the Seinfeld episodes that you're talking about are one in the same. They have "the contest" because George tells them about his mother catching him masturbating, yada, yada, yada.
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Admin - I think the Seinfeld episodes that you're talking about are one in the same. They have "the contest" because George tells them about his mother catching him masturbating, yada, yada, yada.
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FlimsyFlamsy said... 14
And if you hate the things most of the other posters say, maybe there are other blogs where you'd feel more comfortable and less frustrated?
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But then how can they stir the sh*t?
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Eh, the show is trashy, no question. But I see from most of the participants that they all want to be there and work on themselves, and that is far and away better than refusing to even admit there is a problem in the first place.
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I disagree that the show is completely trashy. In fact I actually can see how it could help people who watch this show, how they might see some parallels in these couples and their own relationship and if it helps people make a positive difference in their lives, I'm all for it.
Also in addition to these couples admitting they have their problems, because these couples are celebs they not only get "free" therapy but they are paid for their appearance on the show, not to mention the vacation they get too.
Re Ghost and cheating ~ I was told a long time ago that once a cheater they are always a cheater, and if you cheated with the person to get them from their previous spouse/significant other, at some point in time someone else will come along and the same will happen to you. Also, if you are involved with someone who cheats then they eventually are going to cheat, and it does not matter if you put a fence around them that is horse high, pig tight and bull tough -- if they want to cheat they are going to find a way out to do it. However one needs to remember at all times that YOU are NOT the reason that the cheater is cheating -- no matter how much blame they try to lay on you -- noooo that is all on the cheater as to why they cheat.
Well said gabby2 @11. I agree 100%.
No, FlimsyFlamsy. No conspiracy here. There's just more than one of us who obviously thinks Jon is a doofus.
I'm no more frustrated as when we are railing about Kate. I just happen to feel the same way about Jon. It's the kids that keep me here as i'm sure keep many here.
Thelma said:
No, no pass for this from me. If dignity and morality mean selling out your sex life, Jon fails my 'dad' test. ANd there's only 2 things on it: a sense of dignity of oneself and others and moral behaviour.
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Not even "unconditional love for your children"? More important to look dignified to the outside world than love your children so much you might be willing to be embarrassed on TV in order to earn a big paycheck?
Well, okay then.
"Jon Gosselin reveals he got a vasectomy on The Wendy Williams Show"
Talk about misplaced modifiers! lol! Did Wendy watch or participate in the procedure?
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Ha! Is this available on YouTube?
Perhaps "misplaced modifier" should be explained to the sheeple who read here because they're not going to get it.
LOL - another Seinfeld phrase "master of my domain." I remember that episode and it is hilarious. Yes, the topic of masturbation has been around as long as humanity, because it's a natural part of sexuality.
Just a friendly request. There are a LOT of name changes recently, anonymous this time people and various names that fit the situation and so on.
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I can understand those who sometimes post as "anonymous this time" might be regulars who want to share something but are reluctant to reveal the IDs under which they usually post. However, the ones who have been commenting under names that fit the content of their posts more often than not are sheeple. You can smell them a barnyard away.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 196
Masterbation might be 'normal' but it's NOT normal to talk about on television! What has society come to??
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I'm not sure I agree with such a broad statement about masturbation. Why can't we discuss something normal, natural and harmless?
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But he didn't just discuss it. He engaged in it with cameras present. Sex is perfectly normal but that doesn't mean you should have sex on your front lawn with your neighbors watching. Children need to be taught boundaries. Jon modeled completely inappropriate behavior for his children.
I'm no more frustrated as when we are railing about Kate. I just happen to feel the same way about Jon. It's the kids that keep me here as i'm sure keep many here.
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Keep you here? Thelma, are you a regular poster here? I don't recall seeing your posts here, but then again, I don't read every post.
Millicent said... 26
LOL - another Seinfeld phrase "master of my domain." I remember that episode and it is hilarious. Yes, the topic of masturbation has been around as long as humanity, because it's a natural part of sexuality.
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Haha that's right! LMAL
Wendy has her Hot Topics Video up! TFW is around 9:15 (and it's a goodie) :) I love how Wendy calls it like it is, even if a couple of the facts (like living in the same neighborhood) are a little off.
Actually from what I saw Jon did not masturbate. He said he was planning to but then Liz walked in. Nothing was ever shown of him or anyone else doing that.
It's irrelevant what he was going to do. For all we know he meant I was going to go to the bathroom or shower and do it. We have no idea what woulda coulda shoulda happened since it never did.
In any case, I wasn't responding to what Jon did or didn't do or making a judgment about that. I was responding to the broad statement about what was society come to merely for DISCUSSING masturbation.
Wendy has her Hot Topics Video up! TFW is around 9:15 (and it's a goodie) :) I love how Wendy calls it like it is, even if a couple of the facts (like living in the same neighborhood) are a little off.
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Wouldn't you think by now that the producers would have told Wendy that Kate's last name isn't Gosling?
Time and Place said... 28
But he didn't just discuss it. He engaged in it with cameras present. Sex is perfectly normal but that doesn't mean you should have sex on your front lawn with your neighbors watching. Children need to be taught boundaries. Jon modeled completely inappropriate behavior for his children.
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Didn't admin, in #12 just ask that posters not use names that fit the situation/post?
Jon engaged in masturbating and the cameras were present while he did it? How did I miss that?
Is this the same poster who has been commenting under various names for the past few days?
Time & Place, did Jon make a porno video? I didn't see him "engage" in anything with cameras present (other than talking about it). Did you actually watch the show or are you going by comments you've read?
I'm out!
Sherry Baby said... 11
Milo tweeted:
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 48m
@ljohnson2006 @Kateplusmy8 @msgoody2shoes21 @Paige_Kate8fan @CrazyforKate @Truth_Teller201 Back at ya! It's what women should do 4ea other!
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I'm almost afraid to ask what Milo wants women to do for each other!
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Here are the pathetic tweets:
Lauren @ljohnson2006 12h
#FF @Kateplusmy8 and some of her amazing fans @MiloandJack @msgoody2shoes21 @Paige_Kate8fan @CrazyforKate @Truth_Teller201. Constant support
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 2h
@ljohnson2006 @Kateplusmy8 @msgoody2shoes21 @Paige_Kate8fan @CrazyforKate @Truth_Teller201 Back at ya! It's what women should do 4ea other!
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Blech! I am so glad my women friends don't need "constant support." I can't imagine having to email and phone them daily platitudes about how to enjoy the day, how fabulous they are, how strong they are........
A friend of mine was in the hospital a while back. We friends supported her with visits, taking her things she needed, phone calls, help when she returned home. She's all better now and doesn't appear to need "constant support.
Maybe my friends are just more self assured. If these fans thank women need constant support they, themselves, must need it. Don't paint everyone with the same irritating, needy brush.
Why would such a strong woman as the fans think Kate is need constant support anyway? They make we want to hurl.
Ok...done with the spew. Back to masturbation conversation.
Blech! I am so glad my women friends don't need "constant support." I can't imagine having to email and phone them daily platitudes about how to enjoy the day, how fabulous they are, how strong they are........
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Ugh I know. I'm your friend not your assistant.
Time and Place said... 28
But he didn't just discuss it. He engaged in it with cameras present.
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No he did not!
If you were to take the time and watch the episode, all you would see is Liz walking into a bedroom where Jon was completely covered by the comforter from head to toe.
Further, if Liz had not said a word we viewers would all be clueless and just assumed Jon was either just waking up or about to take a nap.
Ugh I know. I'm your friend not your assistant.
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Or therapist.
Methinks it's time for a sheep to find another pasture. The same person posting here is getting to be rather tiresome, especially when it's clear that he/she never watched the show and makes assertions that just aren't true. Stirring the pot gets to be so boring.
This idea that women have to support someone just because they have a vagina is abhorrent to me. I side with the person who is right, not the one with the right parts.
PJ
I had a friend who'd gone through an abusive marriage and was in the midst of a messy divorce. (I now think she's a borderline personality who was married to first one narcissist and then another.) I testified at her divorce--I had kept track of the beatings and photographed her bruises.
For a time, she expected me to email her each morning--I was a writer working from home and also homeschooling. She was at work. I'd email, she'd respond. She craved (nearly demanded) that "constant support."
I recently found a daily to do list from that time--and I had actually put emailing her onto my daily list! I shake my head. I would never do that now.
First, it was exhausting as you all have said.
Second, it was a burden on me. (I had my own life and plenty to fill it.)
Third, she was rarely there for me when I had a real need.
Fourth, when she met narcissistic husband #2, she dropped our friendship like a hot potato. I sometimes see her now in the grocery store, and she sticks her nose in the air or ducks down an aisle. She does not speak.
I was used--and would be angry, except I did help her escape that marriage along with her three children who were being physically and emotionally hurt by their father. He was very dangerous.
So would I help her to escape again? Yes. Would I be "constant support"? A big N-O. Live and learn!
These fans are being used the same way. Maybe one day they, too, will get it.
(A side note: her narcissistic husband #1 recently had three more children, each a year apart, with a new very young wife--his fourth wife. Their oldest child is 4. They separated/divorced and then she "died unexpectedly." Suddenly, he was the grieving husband. No one I know knows what happened. And I'm suspicious...)
I loved the comment from Wendy on Hot topics. Five simple words "...and now nobody wants you!" LOL
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 48m
@ljohnson2006 @Kateplusmy8 @msgoody2shoes21 @Paige_Kate8fan @CrazyforKate @Truth_Teller201 Back at ya! It's what women should do 4ea other!
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Strap-on???
....oh, sorry sorry.....I am going to hell!
Kramer was sitting beside Elaine and he had a drink cup in his hand with a straw that was bouncing around because he was laughing with his mouth open trying to get the straw! To me, that was the funniest part seeing Kramer doing that. So funny.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 12
Just a friendly request. There are a LOT of name changes recently, anonymous this time people and various names that fit the situation and so on.
Please don't do that. It makes the blog seem way too drive by and lessens accountability.
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Thank you Admin. 'Anonymous this time' always seems dubious to me. Geez if you can't own it, don't post it.
And adding the 'g' to your words is a thin disguise, MILO.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 10
Is there something like a Canadian dissing as opposed to a US dissing? Do they diss differently in Canada? Auntie Ann would know! :)
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It's the same diss but with an "eh" at the end?
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Actually, this is very true. Americans say 'Eh, what a loser'. Canadians say, 'What a loser, eh?' like we need clarification.
Millicent said... 26
LOL - another Seinfeld phrase "master of my domain." I remember that episode and it is hilarious. Yes, the topic of masturbation has been around as long as humanity, because it's a natural part of sexuality.
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There wasn't a subject on Seinfeld that a person couldn't relate to. The guy covered it all, even nose picking. I've been watching 'Comedians in cars getting coffee' episodes on what else, but comediansincarsgettingcoffee.com.
He's alive and well and still Jerry.
OT what everyone wants to see this week is the super super bowl! I an waiting for the CT recap from admin. This week there are just too many really exciting basketball games on TV, then all the super bowl lead up, then the olympics begin next Friday. then the run up to the NCAA basketball championship! Lots of fun stuff going on!
As for Ghostface Killah having two girlfriends, i'm not shocked. The man is part of a legendary and influential music group, and arguably the member with the most successful solo career as a rapper. of course he had more than one girlfriend. What would you expect from someone in a group with Ol' Dirty Bastard?
Wu Tang history and achievements of the members are so interesting. RZA is a record producer and wrote part of the score for Kill Bill. Method Man is actor, singer. Inspectah Deck is very successful producer. The group changed recording business practices to encourage financial and creative independence for the artists associated with it. They were a big group, but every member could go and do solo projects, and on those projects often other band members helped. They have nurtured young talent.
There are some cautionary parts of the group story. Ol' Dirty Bastard died of a drug overdose in the recording studio. A couple of members spent time incarcerated.
The history of the group, and their influence on hip hop, rap, and even the business model are fascinating. Teen Duck Lips can learn a lot about being an entrepreneur from Ghostface Killah.
Note: the Wu tang names were inspired by kung fu movie Shaolin and the Wu Tang.
I'm confused (nothing new there). Are you saying that if these kids were med students they wouldn't understand the concept of masturbation?
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No, what I meant is that if they had a high enough IQ and were attending college and studying medicine, they may know the text book explanation of the word and motions but would not understand the full maturity of the word at the age of 10. Their brain can't understand the full ramifications until it is fully developed.
I hope that explains it better. If not, we can drop it. I'm not sure where to go from here. One thing I do know, I'm not a genius. It's only my thoughts and understanding. I could be wrong.
My family and I went to see Jerry Seinfeld at Caesar's Palace in Las Vegas over the holidays. It was such a good show. It was all new material to me and I laughed nonstop for almost 90 minutes. Normally I wouldn't go see a stand up comedian, but Jerry is truly a master of comedy. He has such high energy and his routines are so well crafted and all without (to me) annoying expletives. He has a real grasp of both verbal and body language and connects so easily with the audience. If any one has the chance to go see him I would highly recommend it.
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I found Coconut Oil this morning at.... KROGER! Yep, I thought, what the heck, I'll look for it as long as I'm at the grocery store anyway and low and behold, there it was! They had a lot to choose from, cold packed, regular pressed, organic, regular, different brands, etc.
Thank you to everyone who suggested it and the tips on where to find it.
SwingsandRoundabouts said... 50
My family and I went to see Jerry Seinfeld at Caesar's Palace in Las Vegas over the holidays. It was such a good show. It was all new material to me and I laughed nonstop for almost 90 minutes. Normally I wouldn't go see a stand up comedian, but Jerry is truly a master of comedy. He has such high energy and his routines are so well crafted and all without (to me) annoying expletives. He has a real grasp of both verbal and body language and connects so easily with the audience. If any one has the chance to go see him I would highly recommend it.
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My friend went to see him in Atlantic City and said he was awesome. He really is funny
I woke up this morning to read what I missed and cracked up at
JoyInVirginia's encyclopedic knowledge of the rap world (#48)!
Dancin' With Them Thar Stars fan, college sports lover, virtual
tour guide extraordinaire, and hip-hop aficionado...you're a
well-rounded girl, Joy! So many interesting and swell folks on
this blog.
I noticed the kumbaya email about the women who support Kate left out Em -- hope she didn't get her feelings hurt. Although her choice in a heroine is questionable to me, she seems like a kind girl at heart.
Sam McGrath @sammc243 1h
Hey @Kateplusmy8 just checking in seeing how my friend is doing. Any update on #BeKindGetSigned . Did you read about Steven the Snowman?
@Kateplusmy8: Finally home from last kid pick up of night! Whew, was a marathon 4mom just staying awake long enough til pick up X #9safe&asleep #blessed
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As always deflect, deflect, deflect. Ignore that article bout my sister's husband because I picked up my kids from activities and I stayed awake to do it. My question were they really out so late that you'd be so tired? You don't work a 9-5. You seemingly sit home all day while the kids are in school. She's trying to make us think that all 8 were in different places hence the marathon pick up. Not buying it at all.
My son and I saw Jerry doing his stand up and he was spectacular! I just read there is a Seinfeld reunion in the works. YEA!
Tucker's Mom said... 200
http://www.amazon.com/Divorcing-Narcissist-One-Moms-Battle/dp/0615720552/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
Here's a link to the book that the above blogger wrote: Divorcing A Narcissist: One Mom's Battle.
She details her harrowing experience with the court system. She's a woman and the mom, so I can't imagine the uphill battle Jon has been fighting!
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Wow, wow and wow. That woman's ex is a male version of Kate.
She has what she calls a "narc decoder" where she translates the narcissist's words into what the narc really is saying. Her take on Christmas for the narcissist really struck me.
"For some reason, the holidays seem to bring out the “best” in the narcissist. It seems like they escalate like the Grinch on steroids. Court filings seem to increase along with the dreaded emails which call for the Narc Decoder. Most holiday emails, when processed through my Narc Decoder will read something like this:"
“I envy that you can feel joy. I hate when people feel joy because it is a feeling that I will never know. Because the theme of the season is ‘Peace and Joy,’ I am going to strike hard and ensure that you feel as cold, dark and empty as I feel. You are not allowed to experience happiness unless I have approved it and we all know that will never happen.“
Or, there's this email Tina decoded for one of her readers:
Narcissist: “I wish I had a mirror to have you see how you come across in your presentation. Maybe there would be a slim possibility you could see how angry, inflexible, demanding a person that you are. Why would anybody want to work anything out with you! You do not know the first thing about being accomodating, understanding, or professional for any matters. So you run to your attorney to find solutions. Besides, the selfishness that is your true self. All you know to do is fight, fight, fight. How very sad because one day it will have an effect on your existence if you keep it up. Find a better way to channel your anger that life is not fair for you or you may face the consequences. Soon there will be no need to consider “the Family Wizard” for communication because I will rarely have any contact with you except to discuss logistics. So it is totally off the table. Period. I, too, have plans for myself and our daughter, so you are not privileged in setting what weekend day we do the exchange. In fact, as I said before, I gave you 18 months of many episodes of flexibility and that will not be easy to get anymore. You cannot make Sundays a unilateral condition for hours that were decided by my employer, speaking of being unilateral. Life does not care what you think! I will not waste anymore of my valuable time today with your expressions of whining and discontent.”
Email after being decoded:
I wish I had a mirror right now so that I could see myself. I could spend hours staring into my own eyes. Have I told you lately how angry I am at the loss of power since our marriage ended? Yes, I’m angry, inflexible and demanding and all of those feelings have escalated tremendously since I can no longer control you. Damn you. I refuse to compromise or work anything out with you- it’s my way or the highway. Didn’t you read the fine print on the pre-nup? I do not know the first thing about being accommodating, understanding or professional but instead of taking ownership for my own shortcomings; I am going to project my faults on to you. Heck, it’s always worked in the past. I hate that you have an attorney to turn to for advice- why can’t you just let me continue to control and manipulate you?! It’s quite infuriating. I love to fight, fight, fight. This constant drama feeds me because I know that it affects you. I LOVE to affect you. Speaking of love, did you know that I am actually incapable of that? Thank God I am so manipulative because I am able to fool women just like I fooled you. Have you seen my mirror lately? Aren’t you supposed to keep track of my things?
Tweetle-de Tweetle DUMB (36),
I think that tweeter ljohnson (Lauren) is sending out these tweets to all Kate's die hard fans because she wants to be one of them. She sends out tweets praising them for supporting Kate, knowing they will send tweets back to all the others and include her. Then she feels like she's one of them. She desperately wants to be included, although I don't get the feeling that she is really a big Kate supporter. She isn't in it to praise Kate, she/s in it to fight with non-fans. Everything she tweets seems designed to get a rise out of the non-fans so they will fight with her.
One she sent a couple days ago, when Kate broke her twitter silence, said something about how we have Kate back on twitter, now we just need her and the kids back on TV once a week. She knew that would get a rise out of non-fans, who do not want the kids to be exploited on TV again, and who also realize that after 2 1/2 years, no network wants Kate. Lauren apparently also apparently hate-tweets other celebs. She just wants attention and wants to fight. She seems like a very sad and very angry person.
Kate likes to make sure her fans know what a super mom she is for staying up late and making those pickup runs to gather her children!! If she was picking up twins, I hope she took all the others with her and didn't leave them alone that late.
Will she tweet when she has to run and rescue one of them from an unpleasant situation? Yeah, doubt it.
Thanks flimsy flamsy, I read a lot. Those academic research journals Rolling Stone and People especially!
Plus you can learn a lot from family members and friends. The nephews who are big sports fans, the brother in laws who are football fanatics. The son in law who is the gaming expert. The husband and children who keep up on what is new and classic in music. The neighbor who is active in local Theatre and arts scene. the cousin who is interested in history and genealogy. It goes on and on.
You can learn so much by just talking to people! All you have to do is express interest and listen, and people will share their interests with you!
Of course, first you have to want to learn. Something TFMJG does not have any interest in doing. Too sad for her.
She just wants attention and wants to fight. She seems like a very sad and very angry person.
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I think she's a young person, but doesn't seem to have a job other than tweeting hate to various celebrities and praise to the HLN anchors. Not sure what her story is, but yes, she is a master baiter. For awhile every one of tweets showed her obsession with bullying, hating and trolling.
She desperately wants to be one of them, Kate's inner circle, but she's also comes up with some of the dumbest stuff that just makes you shake your head.
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Kate tweets about picking up the kids so she gets the word out that they were somewhere other than locked up at home. The kids rarely get to leave the house, and everyone knows that. She think she's setting people straight--"See! My kids were somewhere in public! With other people!" but it just underscores how rarely the kids get to leave.
And of course it was just the twins. The tups don't get to go anywhere.
Layla agree with you about that particular tweeter. I think she's a school bus driver. Between runs she seems to watch a lot of court TV, send hate tweets to celebs she doesn't like and tweet-fight with non fans of K8. I also agree that she wants to be a part of the inner circle of fans. She also seems to be obsessed with CT and tweets them constantly but hasn't mentioned or slammed Jon yet.
Joy, I agree about TFW not listening to people. Someone recently brought up the train conductor, who enthusiastically shared something about "Hello Dolly," and TFW was pretty much mocking him. To me,
if someone is "jazzed" about what they're talking about, right away I want to hear more -- even if it's not something I ordinarily would be interested in.
I thought the train guy was endearing, and probably loved his job.
How sad (and embarrassing) for him to have watched TFW's response
when the episode aired. Has she no intellectual curiosity?
Kate tweets about picking up the kids so she gets the word out that they were somewhere other than locked up at home. The kids rarely get to leave the house, and everyone knows that. She think she's setting people straight--"See! My kids were somewhere in public! With other people!" but it just underscores how rarely the kids get to leave.
And of course it was just the twins. The tups don't get to go anywhere.
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The twins (or one of them) probably went to Roundtop (ski) after school and didn't get back until midnight or so. Other parents had to pick up their kids. Kate makes it seem like she's the only one who had to stay awake -- such an awesome mom.
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I guess its part of Kate's mental issues, but I've never seen a mother want kudos for doing those things that Mom's do every single second of every single day.
Yay! She's tweeting more Lego creation pictures! My kids are sooo darn smart!! We need a new tv show to showcase their creative talents!!
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 35m
Gosselin kid Lego designers and builders are at it again... Guesses as to who built this unique one? pic.twitter.com/7OLPx58Iwv
Unique? It's a truck! Hurry...enroll the kid in engineering/construction school. What does she do? Looks at one of their projects and thinks, "Quick, grab a picture for my tweeties. This should get a response from them, lots of praise, so adorable!"
At least the bird isn't in the truck. Not yet.
You just have to shake your head...
It does beg the question for this poor single mom, if she has to go out and pick up a teen late at night, does she leave everyone else alone in the house asleep? Scary. Too bad she has zero friends with whom she can carpool in a situation like this. Or god forbid, now that her ex is living closer, she could have a friendly arrangement for this kind of thing.
Maybe she meant "U neak up" on them to catch them doing something wrong.
Seriously? They built a box. They're almost 10 years old.
PJ
Since we have been commenting on how she treats her boys, "icky boys"....she will be tweeting pics of boys. Her MO. Transparent.
WHY is Collin not allowed to see his father???
Unique? It's a truck! Hurry...enroll the kid in engineering/construction school. What does she do? Looks at one of their projects and thinks, "Quick, grab a picture for my tweeties. This should get a response from them, lots of praise, so adorable!"
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That brought in at least 50 guesses. Gotta breathe some life into that dead timeline somehow!
"I think she's a young person, but doesn't seem to have a job other than tweeting hate to various celebrities and praise to the HLN anchors. Not sure what her story is, but yes, she is a master baiter. For awhile every one of tweets showed her obsession with bullying, hating and trolling."
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Yup! Back to the "bullying" thing again!
Lauren @ljohnson2006 2m
What do @Kateplusmy8 bullies put for their occupation? Professional bully? Wonder how that flies...
The recap is up!
pic.twitter.com/7OLPx58Iwv
Unique? It's a square truck. The Lego sets come with directions to build things. Kids are almost 10. Now if my 3 yr old grandson, who cannot read yet, build that . . . .woman is an utter fool.
Lauren apparently also apparently hate-tweets other celebs. She just wants attention and wants to fight. She seems like a very sad and very angry person.
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Agree. She's been sending very nasty tweets to Farrah, and then turns around and tries to get Kate's non-fans to fight with her, while popping out rainbows about how everyone should be positive and love the world.
Lauren @ljohnson2006 Jan 31
Have a positive day. No one has time for negativity.
There's just something not right there. The non-fans just need to switch her off and ignore.
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