Ex-Nurse is so emotionally invested in insisting that Jon is harming the kids. However she/he has never commented on the fact that Kate was involved (emotionally – I won’t go as far as physically) with a man (Steve) who was not her husband and who was around her and the Gosselin children most of their lives. A man who is not their Father constantly hanging around their mother and accompanying them wherever they go – TO THIS DAY. Talk about confusing, harmful and inappropriate!!!
Kate has no friends, so she is bbf with Cara and Mady. That's why Kate talks like a teen herself with "like" in every sentence. I noticed in the People article that C and M were quoted using "like" often. No wonder the girls have been indoctrinated to think like mom and make sh*tty comments about their father. They have heard it straight from the horse's mouth every day. They may be mature, in Kate's mind, because they are helping to raise their siblings, but this has been forced upon them and I bet they are as ruthless as their mother when it comes to following rules. Does Kate allow the twins to punish the younger kids? My guess the answer is yes. I hope some of the tups have the sense to tell all to Jon.
Aw. poor Joel. Looks like an older photo. He seems to have hurt his knee and is crying. Hope he's not in time out for making a sound. Beats me why someone would photograph this.
I agree with this. I would never even entertain the notion of dating until my own son was old enough to understand what was going on. He's very protective of me, which is not always a good thing, but at his age (close to the twins' ages when they went thru their dad's women), he needs the security of knowing I'm not going anywhere. Until he feels secure, I wouldn't dream of dating. That would be cruel to him.
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Good for you! You're wise.
I had a close friend who went through a bitter divorce (from an abusive husband) and once out, she began dating, going away for the weekends, spending lots of time with men and leaving her children (ages 10-16) behind. Those kids had been through hell. I lost a lot of respect for her.
Another friend has a grown daughter and an adopted foster daughter. When my friend divorced, she met a man on a dating site and began spending every Friday night and Saturday with him, leaving the young daughter behind with the older daughter to sit for her. The younger adoptive daughter was only about 6 or 7 when this started, had come from an abusive environment. She really needed her mom (especially since adoptive dad didn't see her at all.)
You're doing right by your son, GG. More should follow that example.
Anonymous said... 181 I'm surprised that Jon and Kate haven't teamed up to do Jon and Kate co-parent 8. They both crave the spotlight and the easy money.
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I think KK would do anything to be on TV/spotlight again as we see in people mag.
However why would Jon punish himself again by working with her? And if he did do so I could see KK playing the victim again and living out her recent people article.
I'm surprised that Jon and Kate haven't teamed up to do Jon and Kate co-parent 8. They both crave the spotlight and the easy money.
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According to People's article from this summer TLC was happy to do an update special but only if Jon was involved, and Kate refused to do it if Jon was involved. She hates Jon even more than she hates buckets of money. That's hate. Since Kate says People always tells the truth, I'm going to assume this is the truth.
I'm not trying to be combative, I'm saying that just because in your experience there was a good outcome, doesn't mean that's the way it is for everyone else.
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Oh of course not, neither is every bad example proof that you can always expect a bad outcome. My belief is that good parents can get kids through almost anything relatively unscathed. And if there are bumps in the road, they could have happened over anything. Childhood is sometimes bumpy even if you provide kids a perfect life. The proof is in the pudding. Mady and Cara's reaction was normal and indifferent. They are just fine. Their reactions about other things, like the STUFF they demand of Kate, were not normal at all.
Anonymous said... 3 Kate says the kids are constantly asking her to date. Why then, would they complain about their father dating? This does not make sense to me. ****** I seem to recall Kate saying that the kids were banging on the kitchen table, insisting on a new Daddy or some such crap. There have been many reports of Kate and Steve being waaaaaaay too close for comfort, and this dalliance with a married man is worse than Jon dating single women? Hundred of photos of Steve on a family vacations, and none of Jon?? Normal?? The kids never noticed a thing? Never noticed Mommy flirting with a married man? C'mon!
Anonymous said... 3 Kate says the kids are constantly asking her to date. Why then, would they complain about their father dating? This does not make sense to me. ___
"Kate says the kids are constantly asking her to date. Why then, would they complain about their father dating? This does not make sense to me."
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Because Kate is a parental alienator and put the idea in the kids' heads that it is horrible that he dated.
I personally think Kate went out of her way to make the association that the feelings the girls' had about the divorce (remember that was Kate's doing) was actually about their father dating.
When first asked they were quoted as saying they didn't think much of it. Then Kate "helped" them through their emotions.
As a kid of div my mom all ways told me and my brother that she would never put a man be for us.
I sometimes was worried about my mom dating only because I didn't want her to be alone unlike Kate. My mom never complained about being alone or wanting a new husband.
Does anyone remember around about the Red Cross scandal and some sheeple wanted to send Kate a free tshirt? Kate made a big point of saying she wanted a small please. We all rolled our eyes. It just reminded me of the yoga pants story. As others pointed out the only reason to mention that irrelevant story is to make it known she and her 13 year old are the same size.
I agree with this. I would never even entertain the notion of dating until my own son was old enough to understand what was going on. He's very protective of me, which is not always a good thing, but at his age (close to the twins' ages when they went thru their dad's women), he needs the security of knowing I'm not going anywhere. Until he feels secure, I wouldn't dream of dating. That would be cruel to him.
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On the flip side, however, is the case of a relative whose husband passed away. The kids were very young. She dated a man, a wonderful person, a physician, and they talked of marriage. The kids were upset, she was confused, and in the end she walked away, not wanting to throw the family into turmoil because she was afraid that the kids would think that someone was replacing their father. They just weren't ready for a new man in their lives.
Many years later, the kids are grown with families of their own, and she is alone. Looking back, she said she would have handled things a bit differently. Yes, she was right putting the kids first, but she gave up the chance of happiness for herself.
Every situation is different, and it's very difficult to make a decision that will ultimately affect your own life.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 17 Does anyone remember around about the Red Cross scandal and some sheeple wanted to send Kate a free tshirt? Kate made a big point of saying she wanted a small please. We all rolled our eyes. It just reminded me of the yoga pants story. As others pointed out the only reason to mention that irrelevant story is to make it known she and her 13 year old are the same size.
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I think she may have even been implying that her pants would get stretched out. That's how evil she is.
chefsummer said... 16 As a kid of div my mom all ways told me and my brother that she would never put a man be for us.
I sometimes was worried about my mom dating only because I didn't want her to be alone unlike Kate. My mom never complained about being alone or wanting a new husband. ***** I remember thinking the same about my mom. She was widowed, and I was 17, so it wouldn't have been a big deal if she eventually dated. I did want her to find someone wonderful, but she was just never interested. She got the brass ring the first time around, and that was that. She also didn't want to take care of some widower that didn't know how to manage after his wife died. That, and some men were out to get a widow's money (mostly gained by her dead husband!).
But Jon was dating long before the divorce was final. I think that point is being missed.
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Jon had moved out. The marriage was over. As far as the kids knew, he wasn't coming back. Are children that young actually aware of the legal process and paperwork that needs to be done before their parents are divorced? I don't know...
I remember Morty and Lee from those sweet swiffer commercials. Although their previous spouses had died which is not the same as divorce, dating still presents the same question and potential anxieties for kids. Nonetheless, they chose to date each other. Their kids were little. In fact they met because of their kids, she was tutoring his son. They married, moved in together with they respective children and said the family blended just fine. Forty years later.
I guess I think what if Morty and Lee had said, well we should wait until the kids are grown before dating I don't know if the kids can handle it we have heard "studies" it's not good for kids. They would have missed out on a beautiful love and a new lease on life, and happiness, for them and their kids. It is the parents who have a large role in what outcome dating or not dating will have on their kids. I suspect with parents like Morty and Lee, it was never an issue for their kids.
GosselinbookStTeam.. @AlfredoCocozza 8h Another frivolous lawsuit coming up huh? How much more of the kids $ R U going 2 throw away? Will ANYTHING B left 4 the kids?
***** Kate's filling another complaint? Against whom? I can't keep up with this stuff. I give up.
But Jon was dating long before the divorce was final. I think that point is being missed.
Jon may have dated before the divorce was final but but how many were there, how many were introduced to the kids, and after being introduced how many spent time with them? Just because Jon dated doesn't mean the kids got to know the women. They were introduced to many people during that time. As Admin said, between the crew, security, paps, babysitters, nannies, housekeepers, caterers, and more, there were so many people in their lives then, I doubt they paid much attention to a few more. Even the twins said they didn't notice.
Rhythm that's sad. The other thing too is that sometimes adults have to think long term. Even if the child today is apprehensive about a new stepparent, sometimes loving that child means thinking of your own happiness too and you and your child's future 30 years from now. That child doesn't quite grasp yet that soon their parent won't the center of their universe. Soon they will have other interests, move out, and start their own lives. And their parent will be staring down 30 years or more of being alone.
I don't think it's selfish for a parent to think of their happiness in the long term, especially in the many decades they will be without their kids. Jon and Kate are relatively young adults who will still be relatively young when these children all hit 18 and move on. A happy and well adjusted kid will grow into an adult who is happy that their parent has someone when the kid is not there anymore. It takes some of the worry off the adult child when it comes to aging parents. It gives the parent other interests other than constantly checking in on the child. It gives them a life outside the kids that they will need because their kids will have their own lives. While sometimes children are upset over dating, I rarely hear an adult upset at their parent is dating UNLESS they have a specific issue with the person themselves--that's different. But the don't usually object to dating itself. My grandfather has been dating and I have not heard a single ill word from anyone in the family about it. We adored our grandmother and mom, but we're mature enough now to recognize this is good for him and he should date if it makes him happy. It is not about us anymore, we are all long gone now.
The process of normal child development starts with a very self centered and narcissistic outlook on life. This is normal and even helpful to little children. Then as childhood goes on you slowly start to have a more global view of your environment and start to think of others until hopefully as an adult, you are a selfless person who cares about others you love. And that includes seeing your parents as people with their own needs and desires, and eventually as your parent put you first so much for so many years, you in turn starting putting THEM first.
"It is the parents who have a large role in what outcome dating or not dating will have on their kids."
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Exactly. I think it's more about how it's handled than simply a do or don't situation. For some post divorce families dating isn't an option and for others it is and in either case it can be handled perfectly fine or very badly.
Like everything else in this life, we shouldn't blanket an issue with black or white...do or don't. There are varying shades of grey in between and every family's needs are different.
LOL, No. She used to have 'normal' lips. Farrah had her lips injected with idk what a few days before taping Bethanny's show, then started taping CT about a week later. Farrah was on the Monday, 10/28/13 episode of Bethanny which was filmed sometime around 10/24-25. Her lips were SO swollen the day of the Bethanny taping she was having trouble speaking.
This link shows her lips on Bethanny. There are also pics on this page showing her normal lips. LOL http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv-movies/farrah-abraham-slams-bethenny-frankel-spat-talk-show-audience-member-article-1.1499092
How does Kate know that some of the entries aren't coming from non-fans (okay, haters)? If she chooses one or more of them as winners, the sheeple will be pis$$ed and the haters will be rolling on the floor laughing. Is someone (like a sheeple detetective) vetting them to make sure that the not-a-contestants are indeed fans?
As a kid of div my mom all ways told me and my brother that she would never put a man be for us.
I sometimes was worried about my mom dating only because I didn't want her to be alone unlike Kate. My mom never complained about being alone or wanting a new husband. ******* As a single parent raising my son, he has always and will always come first. That's just how I feel about being his mom. I did try dating when he was younger, but I found that I didn't have enough time to develop a new relationship. I worked full time, and I chose to spend my free time with my child rather than a new guy. I have never regretted that decision.
However, some women are extremely uncomfortable being on their own and seem to feel they "need" a man to either complete them, or to help them. In that case, I think often the children do suffer and feel like they are placed a distant second to the new man in mom's life. (The same hold true for when dads do this.)
Jon did have a wild period when the marriage was breaking apart. During that time, he made some bad choices. That's a long time ago now. He's been in two monogamous, committed relationships since then, demonstrating to his children that he has the capability to love again and include the children as fully as he is allowed to into his current life.
Compared to all else that the Gosselin children have been through, I think the fact that their father dated several women in the time of the divorce is probably pretty low level in terms of causing distress. Jon did not cheat on TFW - he was told the marriage was over, to move into the apartment above the garage, and to pretend they were married for the show. His reaction was fairly predictable. More important to me was: how did you clean up your mess? Did you continue down the same path or have you straightened out your life?
Children of divorce, or parental death, do not obsess about the remaining parent's dating unless they are forced to by behavior of said parent. I was a teen when my father died; mom went on a few dates while I was still living at home, and frankly, that was weird. In the coming years, when my sister and I were out of the house, married, on our own, I really wished she would have embraced the idea of a new partner. Her being alone made intrusions into our lives that were not always healthy. That said, as teens, mom's social life was not our first, second or probably even third, thoughts. Kate is the grand manipulator, and probably will only talk the talk - she has nothing to bring to the dating table and she knows it. Jon, OTOH, appears to enjoy the company of relationships. Ad we all know who the more grounded parent is.
Rhythm Of Life said... 23 But Jon was dating long before the divorce was final. I think that point is being missed. ***** I dated when separated- quite a few months before my divorce was inked. The marriage is o-ve-r, and unless you have some religious reasons for not moving on, like waiting for an annulment, then it's every man for himself! Jon was well within his rights to date once the marriage was no longer a marriage, which is generally speaking, when you stop living in a marriage and separate. I can not believe this is still an issue with Jon.
But Jon was dating long before the divorce was final. I think that point is being missed.
I wish he would have waited to date until the divorce was at least filed for, and he wasn't living on the property any more. Or even better, waited til the divorce was final.
Living the life he'd lived, he had to know that every move he made would be put under a microscope and judged, so why incur all that. Just wait out the months it takes til the divorce is final.
That being said, I do object to people referring to it as 'a string' of women. There were some months of crazy, for sure, but even then it wasn't a string. 3 or 4 women over a period of months...some of whom were users of a very vulnerable abuse survivor.
Since then it's been two relatively stable, long-term relationships, with women who seem relatively normal (not shrieking banshees who abuse and exploit their children). Hardly a string.
Admin, so true about a child feeling comforted when their parent finds companionship, whatever that may look like. The parent has another focus and the child has the peace of mind knowing that their parent is happy and taken care of with someone there for them. When my mom's health failed, it all fell on me to tend to her every evolving needs. I'm not complaining, it's just what it was. I'm actually proud of myself for being selfish enough to move away from home, knowing that it would get harder as she aged.
I know lots of people who dated before waiting for the divorce to be official. A separation is emotional not a piece of paper. These days divorce can take two to four years and more to wrap up. Jon had no way of knowing his divorce would settle with lightning speed. That was unprecedented given the complexities and I suspect he gave up a lot just to get it over with. And for many people it was long over before ever dating regardless when they finally filed. Anyway because it's so hard to get a quickie divorce anymore (in CA there is a mandatory waiting period of six months) I don't see anything wrong with dating before then should you choose to.
Kate must be up to something. She has not twittered since the 11th. Did she go on a mini-vacation, or is she going to say she was sick? Or did she film something. After all Kate never tells, when or where she, is to be or appearing on any show till after the fact. Or was Kate filing a new lawsuit/on the phone all weekend with lawyer. Or maybe the half-ass excuse, I spent all weekend reading the not a contest stuff, she will have some lamo excuse. She really loves & cares for her fans, doesn't she. snark! LOL
Mel said... 36 But Jon was dating long before the divorce was final. I think that point is being missed.
I wish he would have waited to date until the divorce was at least filed for, and he wasn't living on the property any more. Or even better, waited til the divorce was final. ****** I find that a bit unfair to Jon. As someone who lived in a dead marriage for quite some time before the separation, filing and eventual divorce, it can be a whole lot longer than you think, that a person in a marriage has been living alone. For Jon, I think that was quite a long time and on top of that, once separated, there is a waiting period before you can file for divorce- at least it was in PA when I got divorced. So, the marriage, again, was o-v-e-r. I think Jon could have kept a lower profile, but you know, that might have been impossible given that he had a phalanx of paparazzi everywhere he went, armed with weapons-grade camera lenses, no less!
Living the life he'd lived, he had to know that every move he made would be put under a microscope and judged, so why incur all that. Just wait out the months it takes til the divorce is final. **************************************************************
I understand this point, but on the other hand, TLC had a huuuge part in the "perception" and "spin". The minute he decided her was no longer going be held in shackles, the smear campaign began, with that bitch of a wife going along with it. I'm sure she even was involved with the big wigs at TLC, "masterminding" his demise.
If I might generalize for a moment, here's my observation about men and being alone; by and large, they can't do it! I think men need companionship and to be taken care of, plus procreate more a whole lot more and sooner than women. I just think women are the stronger sex.
Haven't read everything written yet, but I haven't heard anyone say that a parent should never date. And, I think that we can agree that divorce can be preferable to a toxic one.
The difference in this situation, from all of the examples people are sharing, is that there was a public record being made--and, a very ugly one at that. If the kids didn't know about his "dating" at the time, they will have learned about it at some point. The trauma can also happen when they find out about it--not just while it is happening. THey are going to see that their parents marriage was over within months of their recommitment ceremony. They are going to put together dates and match them up with their own memories. And, they are not going to know what or who to believe. And, even if they manage to somehow escape the trauma, it will leak into their adult relationships years and decades later. How do you think Jon and TFW got the way they are? They are simply living out their family scripts because, without intervention, it is what we all do. People who come from dysfunctional families find others that somehow mirror themselves or another family member. I'm sure that TFW was charmed by Jon's laid-back attitude and willingness to carry out her bidding. And, he, who was kind of drifting through life, was probably attracted to her directing him. That's how it works in the beginning--the thing we love the most in someone is often the very thing we grow to hate later on.
I think that we also agree that there are right ways to handle a divorce, and wrong ways. So, what we have here are 2 people who handled their separation and divorce in the worst way possible. That is what I am seeing, and that is why I fear for the kids future mental state. They have a horrific role model and have done enormous damage to their children. We are seeing just some of that in the twins comments.
Sorry for the length of the post, and if my use of the word "we" implies that I am speaking for everyone. I mean it is a more general way, and, of course, there will always be exceptions.
Anonymous said... 38 "It's better to come from a broken home than to live in one." I don't know who said it first, but Ann Landers comes to mind.
Unfortunately, for these kids, they did and still do live in a broken home.
PJ ***** I don't disagree with that statement, but it's a false dichotomy. A divorced home is better than an acrimonious married home- unless the acrimony not only continues, but infests like a pernicious parasite. I think that the G kids just traded one caustic situation for another. The tension that they must live with because their parents hate one another puts MY stomach in knots.
I just want to say that I hate autocorrect! It would be better to just red underline the mistakes so that they can be seen instead of sticking words in that make no sense! Or, at least show us the words that were changed in a different color--that would be useful!
On the west coast... I worked on a psychiatric adolescent unit as a counselor, for which I took a one year master's program--I had a Bachelor's degree in Psychology. I worked there for 5 years, including while going to nursing school, and after, as an RN. I decided I wanted a break from psych, so I worked on a regional Burn Unit. I quit full-time nursing after my 3rd child was born within 4 years. I made a career change after that. So, sorry, no discrepancy here. But, my kids are now in early 30s, so it has been awhile.
TLC had a huuuge part in the "perception" and "spin". ... I'm sure she even was involved with the big wigs at TLC, "masterminding" his demise.
So true about the spin. He didn't stand a chance. You wonder how much she had to do with him being photographed with the teacher. That always had the smell of a set-up.
Just because she was more discreet in hanging out with Steve doesn't mean that she wasn't doing the same thing Jon was...finding companionship elsewhere.
It's really "amusing" that some believe Jon should not have dated until the divorce was final, but are so very silent on the fact that Kate was spending all of her time away from home with a man who was not her husband.
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I absolutely agree!!! I feel men have different needs than women do, nothing wrong with that, we are just different. I think their source of companionship comes from the significant woman in their lives, whereas women (me and most women I know) can get that fulfilment from girlfriends. Plus, I feel his needs, whether they were physical or not, were not being met for a veeeerrrryyy long time. I'm sure sex was one of the big things he was missing, but they need women for a whole lot more than just that, and we all witnessed what exactly he was getting from tfw.
Tucker's mom said... As someone who lived in a dead marriage for quite some time before the separation, filing and eventual divorce, it can be a whole lot longer than you think, that a person in a marriage has been living alone. ----------------- Yes, I agree that dead marriage is a very lonely place. I have no doubt that you handled your divorce with the same grace and wisdom that we see here. Unlike either of the Gosselins.
Since the kids watch the show, it is just a matter of time before they start piecing together a timeline. Remember when Jon was gone "helping his mother" ? And then he went to Utah to ski with disabled children? There were tabloid stories that he was seen with Deanna Hummel on that trip. Think about how disorienting that could be--that is the effects of having your own reality twisted and manipulated by someone else. It can be devastating and traumatizing. The trauma happens when the realization comes, which can be years later.
Maybe we have different definitions of what constitutes a string? Off the top of my head, there were at least 5 confirmed women, under the age of 25, in 2009 ( or early 2010). This does not include rumored one-night stands, public flirting or Ellen. To me, that is a string--others may not agree.
If I were Jon and had to stand by while Kate buggered off with the bodyguard every chance she got, I think I'd start getting a little suspicous of their activities too. And I'd REALLY be pissed if she came home one day and told me the marriage was over, but to keep up the facade for money's sake.
She wanted him to stick around so the show could go on but as far as sleeping with him - nope. What was he supposed to do? Watch her carry on with Steve? Of course he's going to go out with other women.
And you can bet just as soon as Jon was out the door and Kate realized he wasn't going to do the show anymore, she lay in a crumpled mass in her bed a la Skyjump style and cried like a baby, and not for the loss of her marriage either.
That's not to say any of it was 'right' or 'normal' but nothing about the whole Jon & Kate story has been from the beginning. Apparently neither one of them had very good moral hygiene or they wouldn't have allowed TLC in the door in the first place.
That the kids will be affected by their parents' divorce and their post-divorce behavior is a given, but that's just one part of the whole train wreck. I can't see how any of them will come out of this unscathed and in need of some sort of professional help to figure it all out.
I wish he would have waited to date until the divorce was at least filed for, and he wasn't living on the property any more. Or even better, waited til the divorce was final. ****** I find that a bit unfair to Jon. --------------------------------------
I'm with Mel on this one. Jon had a responsibility to make sure the kids had adapted a little more to the idea that their parents were divorcing before cavorting so soon with the likes of Deanna H., Stephanie, Kate M. and Hailey. Paparazzi and TLC hounding him so much during that time is another good reason he should have acted with more restraint, or at least discretion. I know we can debate the validity of the relationships I listed but we each have our own take on that. I know mine is in the minority here. That's okay. While Jon did come to have a couple of more settled, longer relationships, we really don't know the ins and outs of those. To hear his latest girlfriend tell it on the CT clip, when they broke up for a brief spell he dated a couple of women and moved one in for a while. Certainly he's allowed to lead his life as he sees fit, I just think it stinks for the kids. Kate in her own ways is still worse.
Rhythm that's sad. The other thing too is that sometimes adults have to think long term. Even if the child today is apprehensive about a new stepparent, sometimes loving that child means thinking of your own happiness too and you and your child's future 30 years from now. That child doesn't quite grasp yet that soon their parent won't the center of their universe. Soon they will have other interests, move out, and start their own lives. And their parent will be staring down 30 years or more of being alone.
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Yes, that's true. At the time, though, you don't think what it would be like down the road in 20 or 30 years. If you're recently widowed with young kids (or even divorced), you're so busy taking care of those kids and your household is active. Time goes so fast, though, and the children are gone before you know it.
What my relative said that she misses so much is having her husband come home for dinner, having kids at the dinner table, with all the chatter about the day's events, and then that quiet time when the kids are asleep and she's in bed, talking about normal everyday things with her husband. She finds herself not cooking because there's no point to prepare meals for just one person, but rather she goes for take-out or eats frozen dinners. There is no need for homework help, packing lunch boxes, getting ready for the next day...all of the things one does so routinely and seldom thinking, "what if I didn't have this to do?" The time may come when you won't have to do it.
Her friends have families of their own. I imagine it gets very lonely, especially after having a very busy household with a husband and children, and then poof...they're gone. I remember reading Erma Bombeck's "Wet Oatmeal Kisses, " and thinking how sad that would be. I guess we all need to appreciate what we have now before those special moments become just a memory.
That was unprecedented given the complexities and I suspect he gave up a lot just to get it over with. And for many people it was long over before ever dating regardless when they finally filed. Anyway because it's so hard to get a quickie divorce anymore
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I thought she filed no-fault, which usually takes about five months to be finalized. There is a 90-day "cooling off" period after the complaint is filed. If neither contests, they file the actual written declarations.
My outdoor cats are happy. It's 55 degrees and sunny and after the frigid weather, they probably think they're in the Caribbean. Cold snap coming again at the end of the week. They'll probably be house guests again.
Tucker's Mom said... 41 ''I find that a bit unfair to Jon. As someone who lived in a dead marriage for quite some time before the separation, filing and eventual divorce, it can be a whole lot longer than you think, that a person in a marriage has been living alone. For Jon, I think that was quite a long time and on top of that, once separated, there is a waiting period before you can file for divorce- at least it was in PA when I got divorced. So, the marriage, again, was o-v-e-r.'' ~~~~~~~~~~ Vanessa said... 42 ''I understand this point, but on the other hand, TLC had a huuuge part in the "perception" and "spin". The minute he decided her was no longer going be held in shackles, the smear campaign began, with that bitch of a wife going along with it. I'm sure she even was involved with the big wigs at TLC, "masterminding" his demise. '' ~~~~~~~~ I agree with both of you. Also, as Jon has pointed out, people aren't taking into consideration the time frame between what was filmed and real time. The viewers are watching episodes of 'the past', and the paps/tabloids are recording the present, which caused a false impression. There is an interview out there when he discusses the problem.
I've not had my coffee yet, so I'm not 'together' enough to find the interview. Actually, I think I'm not awake enough to make a lick of sense, but hope you know what I'm attempting to say!
Honestly, what business is it of anyone here when Jon dated, who he dates, what the timeframe of their marriage, end of marriage, divorce, is/was? Such a dead horse IMO, add it to the pile of moving on. If you're concern is the well being of the children, then focus on the here and now, and the future. I feel the same about Robert and his tease about books and journals. Honestly don't care anymore.
I went to the store today, checked out the People magazines, which were placed directly above the In Touch. I didn't see anyone even curious enough to flip through either of them. The woman ahead of me looked at me as I thumbed through the pile to see how many had been sold, and she said, "God, not again. What a wretched, wretched woman. Must be sleeping with someone at People."
Kate must be up to something. She has not twittered since the 11th. Did she go on a mini-vacation, or is she going to say she was sick? Or did she film something.
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Does anyone except Milo and the few remaining fans really care? :)
OrangeCrusher1 said... 64 ''Honestly, what business is it of anyone here when Jon dated, who he dates, what the timeframe of their marriage, end of marriage, divorce, is/was? Such a dead horse IMO, add it to the pile of moving on....'' ~~~~~~~~ AMEN! In my head I'm like the scene Admin posted: Shutup shutup shutup shutup shutup SHUT UP!!! In keeping with that thought, I am going to shut up!
Watching a divorced couple on Dr.Phil and the ex-wife sound just like Kate. ______-(secondly)- Sure Jon shouldn't have been seeing woman during their div/separation but then again .
Kate should have been traveling all over the US with her "friends" husband for days/weeks at a time.
Over In TFW's County said... 65 Forgot to mention...
I went to the store today, checked out the People magazines, which were placed directly above the In Touch. I didn't see anyone even curious enough to flip through either of them. The woman ahead of me looked at me as I thumbed through the pile to see how many had been sold, and she said, "God, not again. What a wretched, wretched woman. Must be sleeping with someone at People."
For once in my life, I kept my mouth shut. ****** Wow, that says a lot. I'm guessing that folks in your area are sooooo over Katie Kreider. Watching Katie C. last week, talking to Kate Coyne about Kate's and the twins' cover story, I was sitting next to my MIL and Kate didn't even register on her radar. No reaction. I think Kate doesn't make a blip on most people's radar! Who? What? Next!
Paula said... 53 It's really "amusing" that some believe Jon should not have dated until the divorce was final, but are so very silent on the fact that Kate was spending all of her time away from home with a man who was not her husband. ======== Agree with you 100%. But you need to add that some believe that he should not be dating now and should wait until the children are grown before even looking at a woman.
Remona Blue said... 67 OrangeCrusher1 said... 64 ''Honestly, what business is it of anyone here when Jon dated, who he dates, what the timeframe of their marriage, end of marriage, divorce, is/was? Such a dead horse IMO, add it to the pile of moving on....'' ~~~~~~~~ AMEN! In my head I'm like the scene Admin posted: Shutup shutup shutup shutup shutup SHUT UP!!! In keeping with that thought, I am going to shut up! ****** Must get the Skylar ringtone! Loved that "Jesse Pinkman" gave a "Yo, Bitch!" at the Golden Globes last night!
JR said... 72 She just got a check for 75,000 ....she's probably in the Bahamas! &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
It'd be funny if People witheld her check until after this week's unsold copies were returned and subtracted say $1.88 or a $ 1.53 (1+5+3=9--trying to use 8's or come up with combos of 9) for each unsold copy from that $75,000.
Maybe we have different definitions of what constitutes a string? Off the top of my head, there were at least 5 confirmed women, under the age of 25, in 2009 ( or early 2010). This does not include rumored one-night stands, public flirting or Ellen. To me, that is a string--others may not agree.
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Others may agree or not agree, but aren't getting into the conversation and have moved on. I guess I'm at a loss why this is even being brought up again. Good grief...this was years ago, and we don't know how many there were, what the time frame was, who he got into the sack with, ad nauseam. Why is this so important...and to whom? Why don't you ask him if he has notches in his belt, or if he keeps a detailed journal describing his encounters and how far he got with each of them? My gosh, let it go!
Her friends have families of their own. I imagine it gets very lonely, especially after having a very busy household with a husband and children, and then poof...they're gone. I remember reading Erma Bombeck's "Wet Oatmeal Kisses, " and thinking how sad that would be. I guess we all need to appreciate what we have now before those special moments become just a memory. ****** Girl, this is something that has been on my mind, as my only child will be 16 soon, and already our lives are beginning to diverge. I know the natural upshot of being a parent is waving goodbye as your young leave the nest. However, in my case, once he's off to college, I'll probably be caring for an adult disabled sibling and possibly an elderly parent. Still, I'm taking steps to create activities for myself once again, because I don't want to be sitting in my empty quiet house with only my memories of busier days!
What does it even matter he dated younger woman? He was barely 32 years old, not 70. Even so, two of the happiest most healthy couples I know the man is 10 years older and 28 years old respectively. The self righteousness is mind numbing. I'm with you Pat, let it go.
Madreof1 @Madreof1 35m I have the worst cough ever....and my lungs are clear. Then I am told it allergies.Does this sound right? @Kateplusmy8
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Unless this fan lives on a remote desert island, wouldn't you think that there would be physicians in the area who could correctly diagnosis this? Kate is the to-go person for a possible allergy problem?
"What does it even matter he dated younger woman? He was barely 32 years old, not 70."
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Isn't Kate older than Jon? And either way, so what? Oh geeze, breaking news, four years ago, a 30 something year old dated a couple of 20 something year olds after the separation from his wife.
It's all ridiculous and I'm done bringing it up too.
I'm pretty sure the Gosselin kids will have plenty of questions and concerns as they process their childhoods and experiences as they grow up.
But I'm guessing that way down on the list is going to be who Daddy dated in 2009. They were still being filmed and exposed to a myriad of people coming and going on a regular basis.
The current topic is episode two of Jon on Couples Therapy. It stands to reason that with a topic like that, his dating history and how that has impacted the kids and people's perceptions of him are valid discussions. I don't understand why this is such a hot button issue for this group. Often topics come up where posters respectfully agree to disagree. As a poster with a contrary view on this topic (and not just for contrary's sake), I would like to see the discussion develop like most other topics here do rather than calls for the opinions to be halted.
Virginia Pen Mom, thanks for the compliment but I'm not sure it's attributed to being wise. It's just instinct. My son comes first always and forever. :) He is literally the light of my life.
I keep reading on here that Kate received $75,000. from People Magazine. Where did that information came from? ---------------------------------------------------
I don't know but one of the recent commenters on the People site offered this:
Midwest Mom • a day ago People did not pay Kate to be on the cover or for pictures, etc. This cover was done to help the family get a new show and improve their PR. People doesn't need to pay people like Kate to be on the cover...... Kate NEEDS People.....People doesn't need Kate.
As a poster with a contrary view on this topic (and not just for contrary's sake), I would like to see the discussion develop like most other topics here do rather than calls for the opinions to be halted.
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Are you referring to Jon's dating habits, who he slept with, how many girlfriends he had and when he had them? If so, why would a discussion on this be relevant? It's over, it's done, and since only Jon and the women know exactly what happened, nothing would be proven or disputed. What is the purpose?
I don't think it's a "hot button." It just wears thin after awhile, and it seems to me to be pointless given that no conclusion can be found because speculation would be based on facts unknown.
It gives the parent other interests other than constantly checking in on the child
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Please don't misunderstand. I have plenty of interests. I'm certainly not dependent upon my son for entertainment.
He's only going to be 'little' for so long. I just choose to take advantage of this special time. They grow up soooo fast! And I don't want to miss a thing.
Another 10 or so years and I'll have the rest of my life to do what I want. It's not like it's a sacrifice or anything. I love being a mom.
I agree with Fleecing. Going around and around about someone's dating history has little value. It's not the same as discussing current child exploitation or what's going on currently. At this point it is derailing the blog and enough people are tired of it that I'm going to ask it to stop. Further comments that I judge to be going around in circles on it or derailing my blog a ill not be published unless it somehow becomes relevant again. It's not a hot button. It's more like an old and tired button who is asking for a break.
Admin: I agree with you and PatK. I do understand why Jon did what he did, it's not hard to see. Jon put up with a lot of crap from Kate, it's a wonder he lasted that long in that marriage, most other men would have divorced her long ago, or just went & hid in a man-cave somewhere or physically fought back. When Jon & Kate were together they actually were not together, physically there, emotionally not. Think about all the things Jon did after they separated, these are probably things he wanted to do with Kate, but Kates idea of what the perfect couple did were very different. Kate, put her/saw herself in a different social society, from where she came from(that's probably one reason why she got rid of her family, they were an embarassment). Nothing but the top of the line, best of everything, top school, first class etc. Where Jon, was & is comfy on going to the local pub and having a drink or two and mingling with the locals doing local things, getting dirty.. Kate looked down on the locals, regular, normal average people as servants, slaves, yes people, dirt, look at the way she treated service people(not military). Kate lives in her own world, and she is sucking those kids or trying to suck those kids into that warped world. That People article is pure Kate thinking, she even said so in the article. Her & the twins sat down an talked about what was going on with their dad, how what he was doing was wrong, leaving completely out what she has/is doing wrong, cause we all know Kate thinks she is 100% right and everyone else is wrong. Her way or the highway. Jon & Liz, is appearance on Wendy, will make Kate mad, cause , here is Kate with her new cookbook out and only a few had her on their show. Katie & Today, Hallmark the other shows were in Canada, and a few others I've never heard of. Kate also was hoping for Talk show coverage, cause of her new direction, using the twins. So far nothing. I was at the Jewel food store and they had plenty of People and a few covered up by other mags(not me), even the bookstore had plenty.
Jon should have/Jon shouldn't have? The real question for me is how many times has this been discussed with the twins and by whom? I think it's a safe bet that it wasn't their father. That's what bothers me the most. Remember, she tightly controls what they see/hear/read.
handinhand said... 85 The current topic is episode two of Jon on Couples Therapy ****** I thought Jon and Liz didn't make it to L.A. in time for the second episode? (haven't watched yet) From the teaser clip, it sounds like Jon dated around when he and Liz were broken up. I didn't even realize they broke up or when they got back together.
I don't think it's a "hot button." It just wears thin after awhile, and it seems to me to be pointless given that no conclusion can be found because speculation would be based on facts unknown. ***** If any of Jon's sex life is germane at all, it might be when we see his "counseling" session on CT. The teaser indicates that he's quite the horn dog when not in a relationship. I can only imagine that there are still plenty of stupid women out there who would sleep with him because he's famous.
If you ladies are history buffs looking for something interesting to watch, CSPAN is continuing their First Ladies series tonight @ 9:00. Tonight's episode is on Nancy Reagan. I have not seen them all, but the 3 I have watched have been very well done.
Solved blind item today over at Blind Gossip. Farrah's "people" called the Golden Globe ticket committee and tried to score a pair of tickets for her by wowing them with her "accomplishments" (now is a good time to swallow completely any beverage you might be enjoying) Farrah’s publicist pitched her to the ticket committee as “… a New York Times best selling author and the #1 Googled reality TV star of 2013. Farrah can currently be seen starring in the VH1 hit series Couples Therapy.”
Among other things, this is one of the most irksome and laughable qualities of a reality show participant. They think they are equals and that they belong among legendary actors and actresses. I always cringe when Kate tweets the talented and hardworking real celebrities who fought for their children's privacy from the paps. The actresses behind this law truly and legitimately want their children to have total privacy. Kate has already sold her children's privacy for millions of dollars. She just sold it again last week. What pisses Kate off about the paps is that she can't stand the thought of someone other than herself making a buck off her kids. Completely different concept. But there Kate is, making a fool of herself and tweeting away like she's old buds with those women. Embarrasing.
Over In TFW's County said... 104 Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 3m @EmCr68 @Kateplusmy8 @peoplemag LOL I have no doubt! We have 2support & protect our #ExtendedFamily! :) #MomKate _____
Sheeple Sheeple who need People Are the luckiest Sheeple who buy the twins cover all over the world Were children calling out dad and other children And yet, letting kate and her petty pride Hide the kids pain all inside Sheeple Sheeple who needs kG To sell all the covers that kG and KC Conspire and double team to do.... Sheeple People needs Sheeple Sheeple that buy People Are the luckiest Sheeple in the world That kG has fooled over and over all over the world!
Just a quick comment. I want to thank you all for your humor, recipes, book recommendations and snark!! :)
After a slow-coming realization that what I've been spending, to me, is an inordinate amount of time on a mediocre, going nowhere, reality TV personality, I need to move on for the sake of ME ME ME.
Netflix and my love of reading have been two saving graces that have allowed me to realize I need to move on and pursue my other interests. As coincidence does come around from time to time, I happened to check out a book at the library today and found a documentary on Netflix about a subject I'm most interested in; WWII and, specifically the Nazi atrocities of the concentration camps.
I'm not ancient...yet, but I realize I want to spend my time taking advantage of the internet and my local library (and a bit of cooking) and indulge myself in more of the worthwhile interests I've had for a long time...snarking for me is done.
@MiloandJack: @EmCr68 @Kateplusmy8 @peoplemag Would U believe I can't find it anywhere..went back 2day 2usual outlets..said they ran out & no new ones! :( ======== Where is poor Milo shopping for the magazine? Lets see, There are no copies to be had at all in Milo's town but Em was able to buy a copy for every room in her house. Maybe Em should send a copy to Milo. I was in Safeway today and there were many copies on the racks at checkout. She even included @people in her tweet! Look behind the copies on In Touch Milo. I know you want everyone to believe that it's flying off the shelves but unfortunately Tweeting it doesn't make it so Milo.
I've been watching Guy Vs. Rachel Celebrity Cook Off and Florence Henderson has been seated on stools a lot because she broke a bone in her foot. A much different scenario than when TFW supposedly broke her foot.
Welp, if we can't continue to discuss the disgusting behaviour of Jon Gosselin, maybe we could discuss this? The hell? Is SeaWorld lying?? I find this hard to believe.
Ree Drummond aka The Pioneer Woman, dominated the cookbook sales for the year of 2013 with both her new cookbook and previously released cookbooks. Despite not releasing her newest book, The Pioneer Woman Cooks: A Year of Holidays, until October 1st, the book was the top selling book of the year with 367,000 copies sold....
Wow! Just that one book has sold 367K since October 1st in 3 months!
I think there are blogs out there where discussion of Jon's "disgusting behaviour" (ad nauseum) is very much welcomed. I'm sure the owners of said blogs would love more input.
Why don't cooler heads prevail and all the talk about Jon and his dating habits wait until AFTER he has appeared on CT. Since a scene with him in it hasn't even been on an episode yet, nobody even knows what the hell he's going to say. After he's appeared, have at it and discuss the episode.
So the topic is Couples Therapy, and the twins have been quoted talking about their fathers dating in 2009, but it is not a relevant topic? Then what is? Cats? Rumspringa?
Hi tweet Le done! Real life is so much more interesting than mediocre boring oh-so-predictable TFMJG! Luke bandit, your song is great! #voteshaka.com #shameless begging #GoVCU!
Over In TFW's County said... 104 Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 3m @EmCr68 @Kateplusmy8 @peoplemag LOL I have no doubt! We have 2support & protect our #ExtendedFamily! :) #MomKate
Ex nurse I don't care what you want to discuss other than what you've been asked multiple times to move on from but as my mother would say this is not open to debate. Enough people have spoken up saying they want to move on, and I made the call. One person does not get to dictate what the conversation is if a lot of other people are sick of it. And, it's just rude to the people here to keep bringing it up when they've asked you nicely to put a sock in it for over a year now. Don't like it, go somewhere else. It's not a democracy.
Please don't misunderstand. I have plenty of interests. I'm certainly not dependent upon my son for entertainment.
He's only going to be 'little' for so long. I just choose to take advantage of this special time. They grow up soooo fast! And I don't want to miss a thing.
Another 10 or so years and I'll have the rest of my life to do what I want. It's not like it's a sacrifice or anything. I love being a mom. ***************** I completely understand where you are coming from and feel the same way. My son has added so much to my life and I love being a mom and having our own small family unit. And the years have indeed flown by, way too fast. I will be 54 when he is off to college, with many years ahead of me for 'my time." I'll enjoy having so much time to do as I choose but I will certainly miss the days of raising my son. I truly believe these have been the happiest years of my life.
In the comments section of one of the tabloids a post said tfw had a new dating show,and would be gone for 90 days. Kind of long for her worship to be away from her money-makers for, IF it is true.
URL basically what Seaworld did was slash prices dramatically and if I recall they even had several free days for kids, which helps gets people in the door so they can say don't look over here don't look at that attendance is up, see see? Unfortunately as well, a good number of people won't see or digest that documentary. I'm into that stuff and I even went so far as to read the pages and pages of police reports from the incident, but I am under no illusions that most people would go to the trouble of doing that (if they did, they'd be horrified.) Many people don't watch documentaries at all. Many more don't want to hear about sad things. While it is easier to look away, is that really what is right? I firmly believe that one day we will be horrified at what our "ancestors" did at Seaworld. We will look upon it with the same contempt as freak shows. They have a chance now to still be a player in marine biology and transform themselves into an educational theme park that does not enslave animals in bath tubs, but they refuse to take it.
I still don't know what exactly they intend to do when OSHA's sanctions hold up and they can't put on whale shows anymore the way they used to. They can't honestly be banking on winning their appeal.
In the comments section of one of the tabloids a post said tfw had a new dating show,and would be gone for 90 days. Kind of long for her worship to be away from her money-makers for, IF it is true.
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If that were true, wouldn't you think that Milo would know, and she'd be so giddy with the news that she couldn't contain her excitement? She'd have to spill...
Welp, if we can't continue to discuss the disgusting behaviour of Jon Gosselin
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That is not what was said at all. Don't twist my words. I am specifically asking ex Nurse to stop derailing the blog. She knows exactly what she is doing--and if she doesn't, I can't help her. I don't have an issue with anyone else here.
(Leslie) I read this on Wiki about Ree Drummond's blog success. I thought it was interesting especially since it was mentioned in People that Kate is partially living off of her blog money (bullshsit). The artiicle below states that Ree earns a million or more a year just off of her blog. Take that Kate Gosselin and shove it up your crapfest outdated blog!
"As of September 2009, Drummond's blog reportedly received 13 million page views per month. On May 9, 2011, the blog's popularity had risen to approximately 23.3 million page views per month and 4.4 million unique visitors. According to an article in The New Yorker, "This is roughly the same number of people who read The Daily Beast". An article in the Toronto Globe and Mail described it as "[s]lickly photographed with legions of fans . . . arguably the mother of all farm girl blogs."The blog has been referenced in the Los Angeles Times, The New York Times, and BusinessWeek. In 2009 TIME Magazine named Drummond's Confessions of a Pioneer Woman one of the "25 Best Blogs" in the world. Estimates for her site's income suggest she is making a million dollars or more per year from display (advertisement) income alone.
Drummond's blog is especially noted for its visually descriptive recipes and high-quality photography.
For what it's worth -- January 15 is Full Wolf Moon, whatever that means, so if anyone feels like howling a little bit more than usual, I guess you could blame it on that.
Yes Ree's blog is great and that's why it eventually started making her big bucks.
She does some major things that Kate and many other mommy bloggers who fail are missing. She is a very good writer, her writing is interesting and engaging and funny (for many readers, it's not for everyone.) Good writing is essential. She is a good photographer. Either you need to be good at that or hire someone who is. No, she's not the best and some of her sets I would have sent to the trash bin, but she is good enough to be publishing on a professional blog. She writes good tutorials that are clear and not condescending. When I first got back into photography some time ago, I read HER tutorials first to help refresh my memory about how aperture and shutter speed and all that worked together. It says a lot that I turned to a Mommy blogger to get me kick started over the many other good photography web sites out there.
She does GREAT giveaways for GREAT stuff like mixers and iPads. She is detail oriented. She provides links to things she is talking about, doesn't make a typo, makes sure when she mentions her cookbook it is easy to find and order--the reader is never frustrated. She allows comments (Kate doesn't) yet always moderates them so that there is civil discussion.
The biggest thing she does, though, is she always strives to get better. Whether it's cooking or photography or writing, she has a real passion for learning, trying things, working at it. And clearly she has a passion for her blog. This comes across in the blog, and gives it the magic it needed to hit it big. We all want to believe that if we just work at it we too can grow and get better especially with the help of someone like her.
She also, of course has a big staff now to keep a great blog going. Kate is just not willing to put in the kind of effort she has and for that reason Kate's blog will never even come close. She wants to phone it in, 20 minutes here 20 minutes there, and that will rarely work in most industries and certainly not in the mommy blogging world. Or for that matter, anything else Kate dabbles in.
Tweet do check back in from time to time if you want to! If you're still here, what documentary was that?
I watched Bridegroom this weekend and was very moved by it. Netflix truly is a treasure. I also owe a world of thank you to this blog for mentioning that you can get free kindle books through your library. My cup runneth over. I am currently reading The Wolf of Wall Street, The Outliers, and a Clark Howard nonfiction. They have so many new books and best sellers, the only catch is sometimes there is a bit of a wait but I don't care about that.
Speaking of blogs, I wondered how Kate's coupon thing was going since Milo isn't gushing about it as much. I checked it out. Of the 10 featured stores, four of them have pages not found, or no active coupons. Clicks on the other stores simply takes you to the store website with the sales listed there. She really just doesn't seem to care.
Oh, and Walgreens has coupons for Trojans and FertilAid For Men Natural Fertility Supplement. Not sure if it's Kate's Pick of the Week or not.
I took the 670K books and averaged 15 dollars per book, that is over 10 million dollars!! A million per year for her very nice blog. Wow!
If kate would of put more effort in her website. But kate wants it all, money making website, clothes sold at the consignment shop, sell books, interest off her investments, AND that is still not enough money to satisfy her. She still wants to put the kids on tv to make more money, even though she doesn't need it.
If it is true and TFW has a dating show, first of all her name on there should be Kate Kreider, not Kate Gosselin! She should not be allowed to use the Gosselin name.
If she is gone for 90 days, this needs to happen, but I know it will never happen. Jon needs to move into the compound and take care of the kids. It would save kate from having to pay someone to do it, unless she negotiates child care from the show. The kids would be so much better off. In their own beds at home, Jon taking them to school and he could work during the day and pick them up after school and take them to their activities, friends and family while kate plays coy, half drunk and letting the bachelors lick her foot!
This is astounding to me! NPR story on January 13: ”Is '16 and Pregnant ' an effective form of birth control?” Amazingly, some economics researchers, looking for causes of the more rapid drop in teen pregnancy rates seen in recent years, studied twitter and google data (!) And attribute about 6% of the drop to teens WATCHING THIS SHOW! I am just astounded! So go Farrah, your cray-cray antics have not glamorized teen pregnancy. In fact, tweets during viewing showed viewers commenting about how the show was a good form of birth control. The researchers has never watched 16 and Pregnant before the study. They did watch after gathering their data and found it to be quite depressing. Inn the eighteen month period the researchers looked out, they determined the reversion was responsible for half the drop in teen births, the show was responsible for one THIRD the drop, and the rest was a continuing downward tend in teen births. Reality TV has an impact on behavior in this case! Wow! Twitter is not just a cesspool for twidiots. it can be actually a valuable source of data! Who knew?
Kate is just not willing to put in the kind of effort she has and for that reason Kate's blog will never even come close. She wants to phone it in, 20 minutes here 20 minutes there, and that will rarely work in most industries and certainly not in the mommy blogging world. Or for that matter, anything else Kate dabbles in. *********** Kate "chums the waters" on her blog and Twitter. There is no established format that readers and followers can depend on and expect. It's so random that it's a joke. I'd be embarrassed and ashamed to put forth such half-ass efforts. Yet, Kate crows all the darn time about what a paragon of hard working virtue she is to her kids. If there's not a carrot dangling in front of Kate, she never follows through. BTW, when is her next marathon???
Anonymous said... 130 (Leslie) I read this on Wiki about Ree Drummond's blog success. I thought it was interesting especially since it was mentioned in People that Kate is partially living off of her blog money (bullshsit) ****** Total BS. No way. Making a little coin? Sure. Paying the bills? Uh uh. Making real money off of a blog takes a full-time job mentality, because it can take that much to keep it going if you are doing it alone. It also takes talent; writing, photography, graphics, contests maybe... Both of Kate's blogs are jokes. Again, I'd be humiliated to put my name on any of her endeavors, except Multiple Blessing, which, of course, she DID NOT WRITE. Beth Carson did, and that's why it stands apart from anything else Kate's rubber stamp has been put on.
Kate is a twit said... 126 tweet-le DONE---I've always enjoyed your posts and I will miss you--but you've got to do what you've got to do.
Have fun and enjoy!! January 13, 2014 at 9:15 PM ****** Me too. You have to do what feels right. I hope you check in from time to time. I know sometimes we get stuck in a rut, but the folks here still inspire me, make me laugh and even make me cry from time to time. I hope the blog leaves you with an overall positive, learning experience. Take care!!
I keep reading on here that Kate received $75,000. from People Magazine. Where did that information came from>
One of the posters here said they'd read somewhere that's what People pays for cover photos. People cover photo fees are negotiable, though. Depending on the 'power' of the celeb, they can negotiate for much higher fees (and there are probably fees lower than the $75K, too). TFW is definitely not in the same league as Brad and Angie's $14 million payday for selling photos of their newborn twins, but it just shows that there is no set photo licensing fee.
Sleepless - You got me curious about the Full Wolf Moon so here's the explanation of the names. Interesting and I learned something today. Thanks. http://tinyurl.com/llt7l2f
Best wishes! I'll miss reading your insightful, informative posts, but I totally get what you're saying. I sometimes feel as if we're on death watch here, with regards to TFW's dreams of returning to the spotlight. But then a reversal happens, and I realize that her dislike for Jon has no bounds, and that there's no end in sight for her exploitation of the G8.
Out of the quagmire, friendships grew. Our interests extend far and wide, beyond that of the Gosselin-related mishegas. But the infighting here is increasing, it seems, perhaps because we're suffocating under the weight of these realizations.
Real life beckons. Perhaps more of us need to stretch our legs and breathe some fresh air, to focus the lens beyond the seemingly endless stream of tabloid articles, TV appearances and tweets. I'm not suggesting a mass exit, so much as a step back-- or sideways. And only for those who feel its drag and pull.
capecodmama said... 117 Why don't cooler heads prevail and all the talk about Jon and his dating habits wait until AFTER he has appeared on CT. Since a scene with him in it hasn't even been on an episode yet, nobody even knows what the hell he's going to say. After he's appeared, have at it and discuss the episode. ****** Agree. I'll set my dvr for Wendy Williams today. Should be interesting. I'm looking forward to seeing Liz "in real life". I've seen photos and read quotes, but really don't have any gist of her. WW seems to be overall pro-Jon, so I want to see if they talk about he lawsuit and the People cover, if it was out at the time of taping and if Jon knew about it in the first place. Will give y'all the 411 in a bit!
Reality TV has an impact on behavior in this case! Wow! Twitter is not just a cesspool for twidiots. it can be actually a valuable source of data! Who knew? ***** Wow, Joy, this was very interesting. Maybe it sparks more conversations between parents and young girls. I'm glad to believe that Farrah A. is nobody's idol, even if young girls see her making bank by doing reality tv and porn and making surrogate genitalia. I hope that the youth that sees this dreck see what a sleazy, depraved and soulless world Farrah lives in. By choice.
There's been a shakeup at People magazine. I hope this means bubye to Kate Coyne.
"NEW YORK, NY – January 10, 2014 — Time Inc. has named Jess Cagle Editor of PEOPLE and Editorial Director of Entertainment Weekly. Cagle will also oversee the editorial team of PEOPLE.com. A new Editor of Entertainment Weekly, who will report directly to Cagle, will be named shortly. Larry Hackett, Editor of PEOPLE since 2006, will be leaving the company. The announcement was made today by David Geithner, Executive Vice President, Time Inc. and Norman Pearlstine, Executive Vice President and Chief Content Officer, Time Inc. Cagle will continue to report to Geithner, with a dotted line to Pearlstine."
According to others here who watch her Wendy Williams seems to sort of have a good read on the Gosselin situation. Her take on it seems to be as close to our take as any journalist except maybe my boyfriend's Anderson Cooper. I'm looking forward to this interview for the first time maybe ever in Gosselin history.
The article posted a few days ago suggested People was going to do a huge shakeup including staff. Good, I hope Kate Coyne is out of there. And yes it's been mentioned before she has twins. I think somewhere along the way Kate Coyne felt she understood what it was like to be a working mom frazzled with multiples to take care of, and she took the comments about Kate personally.
Kate Coyne? It was NOT personal. We weren't talking about YOU. Good grief.
People cover photo fees are negotiable, though. Depending on the 'power' of the celeb, they can negotiate for much higher fees
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Yes I assume they're negotiable too, and I bet Kate used her last cover as leverage. Even though no one can prove or disprove that the numbers didn't come directly from people who wanted to read about Paula Deen, but whatever. A good manager would use that to get a higher payout. I'm guessing it was more money than most of us make in a year. This for a woman piecing and patching. I wish she would be grateful that one six hour work day is enough to make a year's salary worthy of most people, instead of complaining about struggling.
I busted a gut reading that Farrah tried to get Golden Globe tickets. Just like Kate has finagled in the past.
It really says so much. These people actually think they are stars worthy of walking alongside the likes of Aaron Paul and other modern legends. Most people would be embarrassed to grovel for such a thing and feel unworthy. But they come from a different mindset where they feel like that is their crowd. That takes quite a bit of ego and delusion to think such a thing.
Tweet-le - So sorry to see you go and hope your decision isn't permanent. I always felt an understanding of where you stood and will miss your comments. Be well!
WW show: crap! I think I missed a lot of it... but here goes: Jon brought 2 women (count 'em 2, not a string) he dated around his kids in 2009. He pretty much owns dating Kate2, which he denied before. Kate goads the kids into filming with bribes, he believes Tony D. had nothing but bad to say about Kate, and WW knows this first hand because he was her teacher on DWTS. TD said it was all about "Queen Kate". Jon wouldn't take a cut of money if Kate films the kids Would fight filming. Period. Worked so hard to get them off tv. Went to family court to stop filming Kids have education and other trusts 8% of income has gone to trusts Jon re: CT- blah, blah, nothing new here... Jon likes the thought of marriage and commitment. Wants that growing old together thing. No more kids tho! He's fixed (thank gawd). Jon says he's ordinary. WW was really pleased to meet him
Did anyone catch the interview from beginning?
WW said after commercial break, "we all felt sorry for JG, we all liked him!" and the audience was nodding enthusiastically.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 154 I busted a gut reading that Farrah tried to get Golden Globe tickets. Just like Kate has finagled in the past.
It really says so much. ****** I think it says a lot about what real Hollywood and real celebs think about reality tv personalities. Julia Roberts- Cristal Kate Gosselin- rail liquor
Wouldn't it be interesting to know in all the years of Kate's mug on People what she has earned from them? Piecing and patching, indeed! The woman just made more money from that photo shoot than most make in a year. I think what's got Kate concerned these days is continuing to pull in substantial fees for just a few days work. She's got to keep relevant to keep the tabloids, talk shows and cable shows interested. This is what she does everyday.
I don't think her backup plan of putting Mady out there is going to work. She can spend all she's got on singing and dancing lessons, but the bottom line is that the kid does not stand out. In fact, the People article did not portray Mady or Cara in a good light. Who wants to work with bratty teens? They were not well spoken ( just like their mom).
Tweet-le -- I'l miss you and your posts. You always bring a sense of grounded-ness (?) to the blog, pointing out the need to stick to facts. I admit that the insanity of the sheeple is amusing, but sometimes I wonder if, when we read over there (even for snarking), we aren't caught up in the dumbing down process as we shake our heads wondering if some of those people are for real, or just clever baiters.
I stick around for the sociological/psychological aspect of it, as well as the humor and interesting things the posters here come up with. It's a fun group.
Not surprised Jon thinks she bribes the kids. Pretty obvious. " Hey kids, if you want to stay at your school, live in this nice house, travel and have tons of clothes and toys, you gotta film". I hope People gets plenty of blowback about featuring the witch for the zillionth time on their cover.
Hey all, it's been a long time since I posted. Just saw Jon on Wendy Williams. He said Liz couldn't make it, because she is sick. He said he now has a new house in addition the the other one, which is only 4 miles from Kate. Wendy gave him plenty of opportunity to 'bash' Kate, but he didn't. Just told the truth. He did a good job. I loved the comment that Tony D had nothing nice to say about Kate...haha
Coming out of Lurk-ville. Tweet-le, I will miss your posts. But you need to do whats best for you. Please pop in once in a while when you feel up to it. All the best.
As for the shake up at People Magazine, I have been a subscriber for 30+ years (good grief, that's a long time). Over the past few years I have noticed that People is giving more space to "healthy" topics. One magazine was 20 pages of receipes and healthy stuff. I don't subscribe to People for my health, I'll go elsewhere for that topic (and do). Readers want to read about the stars. The fact that reality stars (those two words do not go together) are getting People covers shows (to me) that the magazine has lost its way. Over the years when a major Hollywood icon has died, they are not front and center on the cover, but regulated to a small picture on the side bar. I interpret this as the People demographics they are aiming for have never heard of these major stars. But for a person like Mandela not to have a cover shows how shallow People has become. I look forward to the People magazine shake up and hope they return to the days of old when those who were on the covers actually did something (other than have babies).
That is GREAT he got a new place 4 miles from Kate. That's a good step in co-parenting. Also these kids spend enough time in the car going back and forth to school, it's nice to only be 4 miles from daddy's.
Eight percent is still something, but that still leaves 92 percent for Kate to spend. That's outrageous. It should be the opposite, the bulk of it is saved and they only live on a tiny percentage.
These kids are going to have serious questions about where it all went in a few years. Kate thinks her kid borrowing her yoga pants is her biggest problem. Boy is she in for a rude awakening. I really hope Miss Francis reaches out to them when they are older should they choose to talk to someone. Her situation is as close to theirs as I've ever read about, because her mother was also so very much like Kate and worse. A true sociopath. So it's the child exploitation in addition to the mental illness Missy dealt with. Missy was able to estrange her and go on to be very successful, and any of the kids who feel negative about Kate in the future are going to need the support of people like her. My favorite part of the book is when Missy gives birth to her two boys, feels love like she never has before, and wonders how on earth her mother could do the evil things she did to her and still have the same emotions she did when she had her kids.
And of course Kate bribes them, thanks Captain Obvious Jon! They will have their opinions about THAT too when they are older. Bribing is fine when you are 13 but feels dirty when you are 30.
I will bet that Kate is seething after Jon's interview on Wendy. She seemed to really like Jon and he came across as genuine and speaking from the heart. I'm glad he discussed the child support issue and that it was mutually agreed upon by Kate, himself, and the Judge. Nice to know he has a new home 4 miles away from the kids. I also thought it was good that he gets along well with Liz's ex husband. All in all I thought it was a good interview.
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I think what's got Kate concerned these days is continuing to pull in substantial fees for just a few days work.
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You know I think that's the bottom line. It's not that working scares her. It just scares her to have to work every day like the mediocre. It scares her to only make 30 bucks an hour or less like the mediocre.
What she wants to do is go on half a dozen trips a year and be paid to do so, sit down for half a dozen interviews where she can get in her Jon bashing, do three or four photoshoots, and have that make her millions and call it a day until next year. She wants to work maybe 100 hours a year and have that cut it financially. You know who really is the spoiled brat here? KATE.
lol...well, according to her blog, under News and Events, it's the rock and roll thing on December 4, 2012, ******* Oh, good. Now Kate only needs to grift for a Delorean and a flux capacitor.
No one. They are a liability. Like we talked about earlier, Jaden Smith is a bratty teen and his career is stalled. He can only get projects with his dad now. He and his sister are not likable.
Networks like Disney want a teen who is sweet, innocent, bubbly, well spoken, cookie cutter. Parents don't want their teens admiring other bratty teens. They want to say why can't you be more like Hannah Montana (in her younger days at least!)?
Even if the girls had any talent, which I don't see that they do, that interview ruined any chance they have at proving they are good at PR. They're finished before they even started. It's not like celeb adults where a certain element of controversy might still work for you. That's not how it works in the teen entertainment business.
Eight percent is still something, but that still leaves 92 percent for Kate to spend. That's outrageous. It should be the opposite, the bulk of it is saved and they only live on a tiny percentage. _______
It is outrages and wrong that KK gets all the money and the kids get only $1% each.
I hope you post Jon Wendy appearance I missed it and would like to see it.
Wendy Williams even looked to the camera and said, "sorry Tony, but..." and then dished about how awful it was for Tony to work with her. Looking back, I give Tony D. all the credit in the world. I think that not only did Tony suck it up and cater to Kate's whims and desires, but he not only put forth a positive face, he worked hard to adjust Kate's attitude as well. I hope he got hazard pay.
I bet Kate envisions being the kids' manager if she is not already. Obviously, the People article was a failure for the girls but in Kate world, they were a smashing success. The girls sounded very immature and self-centered which goes against what a Kate said about them being wise beyond their years. She wants the world yo believe these girls are able to choices which falls in line with their alleged desire to film. I think this People article is a PRE-EMPTIVE strike to prove the girls know what they want and to squash Jon's claims the kids have issues. Now she can point to the People article before a judge and say the twins are mature enough to make up their own minds. But, IMO, the article proves the opposite. Besides, I think since Jon sees the tups more often, they fill him in on what's going on in Kate's household. It could be that Kate has left the raising of the tups to the twins and the tups are becoming estranged from Cara and Mady. Sibling rivalry is probably playing a big role in how the tups are treated by their big sisters who resented all the attention paid to the babies.
chefsummer said... 178 Never mind I seeing Jon now and he's a much better interviewer then his former wife. ****** No hemming and hawing, no ums, no "honestly?". Jon looked good, too. Yeah, he's gained a couple pounds, but he looks like Jon. Kate barely resembles herself from a mere 5 years ago.
I wonder if KK had a heart-to-heart talk with the twins about why she choose Steve over their father. A paid employee no less.
And her vacation with Steve in Mex and Hilton Head? And adjoining rooms??
Come on people....she left that marriage first.
And as for Jo "dating", what was he suppose to do, cry in his milk and watch reruns?? When you date, you start by dating a variety of people. If he had a little fun....good for him!
I seriously doubt the 8 ever noticed one more or less person going in and out of their lives. That was normal for them.
I am completely convinced that Kate reads here. Just minutes after I post that she is probably seething about Jon's interview she tweets how wonderful her day is going. After days of silence, things that make you go hmmmmm.
(Leslie) Kate says everybody that meets me loves me. Tony told WW that "he had NOTHING but bad things to say about Kate". She wanted to be treated like Prince Kate. I love that comment. LOVE>>>LOVE>>>LOVE it.
And Jon said he would fight it if Kate wanted to put her kids on another reality show. And Jon said he gets alongs great with Liz's ex-husband and so does Liz. They showed a clip of Liz saying that she really tried to get along with Kate but it didn't work out. Jon also said that he does not pay child support but it was agreed to by the Judge, Kate, and himself. I wish Jon would have given the amount in child support he did pay in 2009. And I wished he would have stated that the support for the kids come from filming proceeds. It just sounds bad to flatly state that he doesn't pay child support. WW said it was great that he broke the his TLC contract to prevent seeing his children's parents divorce unfold on reality TV. WW was really impressed by that and said so. Jon came across great. Liz was at home sick. He also said that he said he would not film again with his kids but he never said he wouldn't film again himself.
I'm confused about the percentages. 8% of what they earned goes into a trust? Is that 8% of total earnings or 8% of their share (which was what?). Then is their schooling coming out of that 8%? And that is their current schooling, not future college? Can anyone figure out the breakdown of this?
Kate said she went back to bed this morning..... WHAT AN EFFING LIAR....she doesn't want anyone to think she saw Jon on the WW show. Shes too obvious....She probably recorded it... Ha
OMG! Can we say: Shit about to hit fan! Jon was excellent! Kate will be on the rampage! I'm sure she is going to find someway to get revenge on Jon. She is already brainwashing the kids. He confirmed what all of us have been saying for months, about bribing the kids. Kates CWS, appearance, she put the kids on TV behind his back, and Kate will continue to do that, and possibly get away with it. It sounds like Jon will be going to a lot of family court in the future. So the bird & 1d tickets were a bribe to do People. She is a vindictive tool. Jon was very down to earth, very pleasing to listen to. Hardly any ummm. I love how Jon talked about Liz's ex, that they get along fine. So Jon is fixed, no more kids, if he does get married again. That is understandable. Jon made Kates both People cover articles(recent & one before), to be BS. He also made her out to be a liar. Wendy confirmed how Kate is by bringing up what Tony said about Kate. I loved what Jon said about the kids, not doing TV again, and that it is his choice to do TV for himself, with out the kids. Good move Jon.
Tucker's Mom said... 180 chefsummer said... 178 Never mind I seeing Jon now and he's a much better interviewer then his former wife. ****** No hemming and hawing, no ums, no "honestly?". _______
Surprisely not lol he was smooth when it can to talking unlike her former ex-wife.
@Kateplusmy8 2day I'm xtra grateful 4 the smallest things: 8 early am smiles&hugs,hot coffee on a rainyday, &a quick return 2bed b4 the day begins agn!
Must be nice, TFW, going back to bed after the kids are off to school. I guess she wanted to watch Jon on WW show from the comfort of her bed.
A sheeple comment from the WW site listed above. You've got to love them. Cut and pasted exactly as on the site. According to this sheeple Kate has a new husband. LOL!
Kate made the right choice getting rid of this immature,cry baby looser. John Gosslin's girl friend looks like a "full throttle saloon" patron. Kate has class and her choice of a new husband put her further in an upper class society. I turned you off Wendy when you had the pig on your show. Kate is a hard working, beautiful women and a good mother. SHAME ON YOU. I NEVER THOUGHT YOU WOULD STOOP SO LOW AND TO GIVE THIS 'HARD ON THE EYES" LOOSER. SEXUALLY? UGH! KUDO'S FOR KATE.for vomiting this looser out of her life
Kate's Tweet:2day I'm xtra grateful 4 the smallest things: 8 early am smiles&hugs,hot coffee on a rainyday, &a quick return 2bed b4 the day begins agn! ________ She is so transparent. She knew Jon was going to be on WW show today. So she starts the day off with a very early tweet saying how appreciative she is of everything. Even the smallest things in life. And how loving she is as a parent kissing and hugging her smiling children. She said that in case Jon said anything bad about her. And then says she is going back to bed again in the morning. Right, Kate, I believe that fully. There is no chance in hell that you would watch with bated breath the interview that Jon gave this morning. She purposefully said she was going back to bed to imply she couldn't care less about him being on TV. Again, she is so transparent.
And as for Jo "dating", what was he suppose to do, cry in his milk and watch reruns?? When you date, you start by dating a variety of people. If he had a little fun....good for him! ***** Yup, I dabbled a bit. Fits and starts. There were a few serious, longer-term relationships before DH. For Jon, add into the mix that women, not all, but more than I'd like to think, (since I'm part of that club) will throw themselves at any penis with money and/or celebrity. Sad, but true.
localyocul said... 186 I'm confused about the percentages. 8% of what they earned goes into a trust? Is that 8% of total earnings or 8% of their share (which was what?). Then is their schooling coming out of that 8%? And that is their current schooling, not future college? Can anyone figure out the breakdown of this? ****** Of course, I can't answer that, but I did get the sense that the kids have sufficient funds for school. Jon seemed very matter of fact about it. Their needs for schooling (and maybe more) are taken care of. I don't think the kids will see anywhere near the money that Kate hoards for herself, but I do think they've got trust funds out the wazoo.
I will bet that Kate is seething after Jon's interview on Wendy.
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I'll bet she's sitting at home right now cutting that oversized fanny pack WW gave her into little pieces.
She had her chance to tour the talkshows and she blew it. She had many opportunities to do a lot of things but eventually people get tired of listening to her whine about being broke, but showing no signs of it.
Cortney Sanders @CortneySanders @WendyWilliams I'm surprised by Jon Gosselin on your show today!! He's been portrayed completely different! #hottopics
N O E L @KingOfHotTopics 2h @CortneySanders I love not to far from them and I'm finally happy he's being himself!
N O E L @KingOfHotTopics 2h @CortneySanders I knew it was in him! Just waited for the real him to come OITNB
N O E L @KingOfHotTopics 2h @CortneySanders *out
Cortney Sanders @CortneySanders 2h @KingOfHotTopics I was impressed by his reasoning for leaving TLC. I didn't expect that at all!
N O E L @KingOfHotTopics 2h @CortneySanders Yeah, Kate is a bitch. EVERYONE around here knows that.
Cortney Sanders @CortneySanders 2h @KingOfHotTopics I definitely figured that from what I've seen on TV. But he's always been portrayed really douchey.
N O E L @KingOfHotTopics 2h @CortneySanders Oh no he's a very nice guy!
Cortney Sanders @CortneySanders 2h @KingOfHotTopics I'm getting that impression from the show for sure. Seems like a normal dude.
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Sorry, if this posted twice. I came across this picture of Joel. Why was a picture taken and where are the adults?
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That picture was taken by a pap in October 2009, when Jon was at the house with the kids. Here is another picture of this same incident.
http://www.zimbio.com/photos/Joel+Gosselin/Jon+Gosselin+Playing+Kids/HRnyWK41e0x
Apparently, Joel fell down, and Jon took care of him. No big deal. Unfortunately, it was all recorded by the paps(INF).
My question for lukebandit is why you automatically jumped to the conclusion that there wasn't an adult around.
I think "dating" and alcohol are Achilles' heels for Jon causing him to abandon otherwise good judgement.
Ex-Nurse is so emotionally invested in insisting that Jon is harming the kids. However she/he has never commented on the fact that Kate was involved (emotionally – I won’t go as far as physically) with a man (Steve) who was not her husband and who was around her and the Gosselin children most of their lives. A man who is not their Father constantly hanging around their mother and accompanying them wherever they go – TO THIS DAY. Talk about confusing, harmful and inappropriate!!!
Kate has no friends, so she is bbf with Cara and Mady. That's why Kate talks like a teen herself with "like" in every sentence. I noticed in the People article that C and M were quoted using "like" often. No wonder the girls have been indoctrinated to think like mom and make sh*tty comments about their father. They have heard it straight from the horse's mouth every day. They may be mature, in Kate's mind, because they are helping to raise their siblings, but this has been forced upon them and I bet they are as ruthless as their mother when it comes to following rules. Does Kate allow the twins to punish the younger kids? My guess the answer is yes. I hope some of the tups have the sense to tell all to Jon.
Aw. poor Joel. Looks like an older photo. He seems to have hurt his knee and is crying. Hope he's not in time out for making a sound. Beats me why someone would photograph this.
Greedy Gosselins said....
I agree with this. I would never even entertain the notion of dating until my own son was old enough to understand what was going on. He's very protective of me, which is not always a good thing, but at his age (close to the twins' ages when they went thru their dad's women), he needs the security of knowing I'm not going anywhere. Until he feels secure, I wouldn't dream of dating. That would be cruel to him.
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Good for you! You're wise.
I had a close friend who went through a bitter divorce (from an abusive husband) and once out, she began dating, going away for the weekends, spending lots of time with men and leaving her children (ages 10-16) behind. Those kids had been through hell. I lost a lot of respect for her.
Another friend has a grown daughter and an adopted foster daughter. When my friend divorced, she met a man on a dating site and began spending every Friday night and Saturday with him, leaving the young daughter behind with the older daughter to sit for her. The younger adoptive daughter was only about 6 or 7 when this started, had come from an abusive environment. She really needed her mom (especially since adoptive dad didn't see her at all.)
You're doing right by your son, GG. More should follow that example.
Anonymous said... 181
I'm surprised that Jon and Kate haven't teamed up to do Jon and Kate co-parent 8. They both crave the spotlight and the easy money.
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I think KK would do anything to be on TV/spotlight again as we see in people mag.
However why would Jon punish himself again by working with her? And if he did do so I could see KK playing the victim again and living out her recent people article.
I'm surprised that Jon and Kate haven't teamed up to do Jon and Kate co-parent 8. They both crave the spotlight and the easy money.
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According to People's article from this summer TLC was happy to do an update special but only if Jon was involved, and Kate refused to do it if Jon was involved. She hates Jon even more than she hates buckets of money. That's hate. Since Kate says People always tells the truth, I'm going to assume this is the truth.
She doesn't hate him enough to drop his last name.....
I'm not trying to be combative, I'm saying that just because in your experience there was a good outcome, doesn't mean that's the way it is for everyone else.
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Oh of course not, neither is every bad example proof that you can always expect a bad outcome. My belief is that good parents can get kids through almost anything relatively unscathed. And if there are bumps in the road, they could have happened over anything. Childhood is sometimes bumpy even if you provide kids a perfect life. The proof is in the pudding. Mady and Cara's reaction was normal and indifferent. They are just fine. Their reactions about other things, like the STUFF they demand of Kate, were not normal at all.
Kate says the kids are constantly asking her to date. Why then, would they complain about their father dating? This does not make sense to me.
I hope Jon never ever does another show with Kate again.
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Kate says the kids are constantly asking her to date. Why then, would they complain about their father dating? This does not make sense to me.
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I seem to recall Kate saying that the kids were banging on the kitchen table, insisting on a new Daddy or some such crap.
There have been many reports of Kate and Steve being waaaaaaay too close for comfort, and this dalliance with a married man is worse than Jon dating single women?
Hundred of photos of Steve on a family vacations, and none of Jon??
Normal?? The kids never noticed a thing? Never noticed Mommy flirting with a married man?
C'mon!
Anonymous said... 3
Kate says the kids are constantly asking her to date. Why then, would they complain about their father dating? This does not make sense to me.
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"Kate says the kids are constantly asking her to date. Why then, would they complain about their father dating? This does not make sense to me."
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Because Kate is a parental alienator and put the idea in the kids' heads that it is horrible that he dated.
I personally think Kate went out of her way to make the association that the feelings the girls' had about the divorce (remember that was Kate's doing) was actually about their father dating.
When first asked they were quoted as saying they didn't think much of it. Then Kate "helped" them through their emotions.
What a great Mom, eh?
Remember when the two were expelled? TFW stated that they were receiving therapy. I wonder now if she was the therapist.
As a kid of div my mom all ways told me and my brother that she would never put a man be for us.
I sometimes was worried about my mom dating only because I didn't want her to be alone unlike Kate. My mom never complained about being alone or wanting a new husband.
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Remember when the two were expelled? TFW stated that they were receiving therapy. I wonder now if she was the therapist.
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Maybe she wanted to be her and Jon's marriage therapist to.
If Kate really wanted to date, she'd be dating. Either she is holding out for a dating show or she is waiting for Steve to dump Gina.
Does anyone remember around about the Red Cross scandal and some sheeple wanted to send Kate a free tshirt? Kate made a big point of saying she wanted a small please. We all rolled our eyes. It just reminded me of the yoga pants story. As others pointed out the only reason to mention that irrelevant story is to make it known she and her 13 year old are the same size.
I agree with this. I would never even entertain the notion of dating until my own son was old enough to understand what was going on. He's very protective of me, which is not always a good thing, but at his age (close to the twins' ages when they went thru their dad's women), he needs the security of knowing I'm not going anywhere. Until he feels secure, I wouldn't dream of dating. That would be cruel to him.
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On the flip side, however, is the case of a relative whose husband passed away. The kids were very young. She dated a man, a wonderful person, a physician, and they talked of marriage. The kids were upset, she was confused, and in the end she walked away, not wanting to throw the family into turmoil because she was afraid that the kids would think that someone was replacing their father. They just weren't ready for a new man in their lives.
Many years later, the kids are grown with families of their own, and she is alone. Looking back, she said she would have handled things a bit differently. Yes, she was right putting the kids first, but she gave up the chance of happiness for herself.
Every situation is different, and it's very difficult to make a decision that will ultimately affect your own life.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 17
Does anyone remember around about the Red Cross scandal and some sheeple wanted to send Kate a free tshirt? Kate made a big point of saying she wanted a small please. We all rolled our eyes. It just reminded me of the yoga pants story. As others pointed out the only reason to mention that irrelevant story is to make it known she and her 13 year old are the same size.
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I think she may have even been implying that her pants would get stretched out. That's how evil she is.
chefsummer said... 16
As a kid of div my mom all ways told me and my brother that she would never put a man be for us.
I sometimes was worried about my mom dating only because I didn't want her to be alone unlike Kate. My mom never complained about being alone or wanting a new husband.
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I remember thinking the same about my mom. She was widowed, and I was 17, so it wouldn't have been a big deal if she eventually dated.
I did want her to find someone wonderful, but she was just never interested. She got the brass ring the first time around, and that was that.
She also didn't want to take care of some widower that didn't know how to manage after his wife died. That, and some men were out to get a widow's money (mostly gained by her dead husband!).
But Jon was dating long before the divorce was final. I think that point is being missed.
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Jon had moved out. The marriage was over. As far as the kids knew, he wasn't coming back. Are children that young actually aware of the legal process and paperwork that needs to be done before their parents are divorced? I don't know...
I remember Morty and Lee from those sweet swiffer commercials. Although their previous spouses had died which is not the same as divorce, dating still presents the same question and potential anxieties for kids. Nonetheless, they chose to date each other. Their kids were little. In fact they met because of their kids, she was tutoring his son. They married, moved in together with they respective children and said the family blended just fine. Forty years later.
I guess I think what if Morty and Lee had said, well we should wait until the kids are grown before dating I don't know if the kids can handle it we have heard "studies" it's not good for kids. They would have missed out on a beautiful love and a new lease on life, and happiness, for them and their kids. It is the parents who have a large role in what outcome dating or not dating will have on their kids. I suspect with parents like Morty and Lee, it was never an issue for their kids.
GosselinbookStTeam.. @AlfredoCocozza 8h
Another frivolous lawsuit coming up huh? How much more of the kids $ R U going 2 throw away? Will ANYTHING B left 4 the kids?
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Kate's filling another complaint? Against whom? I can't keep up with this stuff. I give up.
But Jon was dating long before the divorce was final. I think that point is being missed.
Jon may have dated before the divorce was final but but how many were there, how many were introduced to the kids, and after being introduced how many spent time with them? Just because Jon dated doesn't mean the kids got to know the women. They were introduced to many people during that time. As Admin said, between the crew, security, paps, babysitters, nannies, housekeepers, caterers, and more, there were so many people in their lives then, I doubt they paid much attention to a few more. Even the twins said they didn't notice.
Rhythm that's sad. The other thing too is that sometimes adults have to think long term. Even if the child today is apprehensive about a new stepparent, sometimes loving that child means thinking of your own happiness too and you and your child's future 30 years from now. That child doesn't quite grasp yet that soon their parent won't the center of their universe. Soon they will have other interests, move out, and start their own lives. And their parent will be staring down 30 years or more of being alone.
I don't think it's selfish for a parent to think of their happiness in the long term, especially in the many decades they will be without their kids. Jon and Kate are relatively young adults who will still be relatively young when these children all hit 18 and move on. A happy and well adjusted kid will grow into an adult who is happy that their parent has someone when the kid is not there anymore. It takes some of the worry off the adult child when it comes to aging parents. It gives the parent other interests other than constantly checking in on the child. It gives them a life outside the kids that they will need because their kids will have their own lives. While sometimes children are upset over dating, I rarely hear an adult upset at their parent is dating UNLESS they have a specific issue with the person themselves--that's different. But the don't usually object to dating itself. My grandfather has been dating and I have not heard a single ill word from anyone in the family about it. We adored our grandmother and mom, but we're mature enough now to recognize this is good for him and he should date if it makes him happy. It is not about us anymore, we are all long gone now.
The process of normal child development starts with a very self centered and narcissistic outlook on life. This is normal and even helpful to little children. Then as childhood goes on you slowly start to have a more global view of your environment and start to think of others until hopefully as an adult, you are a selfless person who cares about others you love. And that includes seeing your parents as people with their own needs and desires, and eventually as your parent put you first so much for so many years, you in turn starting putting THEM first.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...(20)
"It is the parents who have a large role in what outcome dating or not dating will have on their kids."
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Exactly. I think it's more about how it's handled than simply a do or don't situation. For some post divorce families dating isn't an option and for others it is and in either case it can be handled perfectly fine or very badly.
Like everything else in this life, we shouldn't blanket an issue with black or white...do or don't. There are varying shades of grey in between and every family's needs are different.
Did Farrah's lips always look like this?
LOL, No.
She used to have 'normal' lips. Farrah had her lips injected with idk what a few days before taping Bethanny's show, then started taping CT about a week later. Farrah was on the Monday, 10/28/13 episode of Bethanny which was filmed sometime around 10/24-25. Her lips were SO swollen the day of the Bethanny taping she was having trouble speaking.
This link shows her lips on Bethanny. There are also pics on this page showing her normal lips. LOL
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv-movies/farrah-abraham-slams-bethenny-frankel-spat-talk-show-audience-member-article-1.1499092
She's going to make those girls "man haters" too
Question on the cookbook not-a-contest:
How does Kate know that some of the entries aren't coming from non-fans (okay, haters)? If she chooses one or more of them as winners, the sheeple will be pis$$ed and the haters will be rolling on the floor laughing. Is someone (like a sheeple detetective) vetting them to make sure that the not-a-contestants are indeed fans?
chefsummer said... 16
As a kid of div my mom all ways told me and my brother that she would never put a man be for us.
I sometimes was worried about my mom dating only because I didn't want her to be alone unlike Kate. My mom never complained about being alone or wanting a new husband.
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As a single parent raising my son, he has always and will always come first. That's just how I feel about being his mom. I did try dating when he was younger, but I found that I didn't have enough time to develop a new relationship. I worked full time, and I chose to spend my free time with my child rather than a new guy. I have never regretted that decision.
However, some women are extremely uncomfortable being on their own and seem to feel they "need" a man to either complete them, or to help them. In that case, I think often the children do suffer and feel like they are placed a distant second to the new man in mom's life. (The same hold true for when dads do this.)
Jon did have a wild period when the marriage was breaking apart. During that time, he made some bad choices. That's a long time ago now. He's been in two monogamous, committed relationships since then, demonstrating to his children that he has the capability to love again and include the children as fully as he is allowed to into his current life.
Compared to all else that the Gosselin children have been through, I think the fact that their father dated several women in the time of the divorce is probably pretty low level in terms of causing distress. Jon did not cheat on TFW - he was told the marriage was over, to move into the apartment above the garage, and to pretend they were married for the show. His reaction was fairly predictable. More important to me was: how did you clean up your mess? Did you continue down the same path or have you straightened out your life?
Children of divorce, or parental death, do not obsess about the remaining parent's dating unless they are forced to by behavior of said parent. I was a teen when my father died; mom went on a few dates while I was still living at home, and frankly, that was weird. In the coming years, when my sister and I were out of the house, married, on our own, I really wished she would have embraced the idea of a new partner. Her being alone made intrusions into our lives that were not always healthy. That said, as teens, mom's social life was not our first, second or probably even third, thoughts. Kate is the grand manipulator, and probably will only talk the talk - she has nothing to bring to the dating table and she knows it. Jon, OTOH, appears to enjoy the company of relationships. Ad we all know who the more grounded parent is.
Rhythm Of Life said... 23
But Jon was dating long before the divorce was final. I think that point is being missed.
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I dated when separated- quite a few months before my divorce was inked.
The marriage is o-ve-r, and unless you have some religious reasons for not moving on, like waiting for an annulment, then it's every man for himself!
Jon was well within his rights to date once the marriage was no longer a marriage, which is generally speaking, when you stop living in a marriage and separate.
I can not believe this is still an issue with Jon.
But Jon was dating long before the divorce was final. I think that point is being missed.
I wish he would have waited to date until the divorce was at least filed for, and he wasn't living on the property any more. Or even better, waited til the divorce was final.
Living the life he'd lived, he had to know that every move he made would be put under a microscope and judged, so why incur all that. Just wait out the months it takes til the divorce is final.
That being said, I do object to people referring to it as 'a string' of women. There were some months of crazy, for sure, but even then it wasn't a string. 3 or 4 women over a period of months...some of whom were users of a very vulnerable abuse survivor.
Since then it's been two relatively stable, long-term relationships, with women who seem relatively normal (not shrieking banshees who abuse and exploit their children). Hardly a string.
Admin, so true about a child feeling comforted when their parent finds companionship, whatever that may look like.
The parent has another focus and the child has the peace of mind knowing that their parent is happy and taken care of with someone there for them.
When my mom's health failed, it all fell on me to tend to her every evolving needs. I'm not complaining, it's just what it was.
I'm actually proud of myself for being selfish enough to move away from home, knowing that it would get harder as she aged.
"It's better to come from a broken home than to live in one." I don't know who said it first, but Ann Landers comes to mind.
Unfortunately, for these kids, they did and still do live in a broken home.
PJ
I know lots of people who dated before waiting for the divorce to be official. A separation is emotional not a piece of paper. These days divorce can take two to four years and more to wrap up. Jon had no way of knowing his divorce would settle with lightning speed. That was unprecedented given the complexities and I suspect he gave up a lot just to get it over with. And for many people it was long over before ever dating regardless when they finally filed. Anyway because it's so hard to get a quickie divorce anymore (in CA there is a mandatory waiting period of six months) I don't see anything wrong with dating before then should you choose to.
Kate must be up to something. She has not twittered since the 11th. Did she go on a mini-vacation, or is she going to say she was sick? Or did she film something. After all Kate never tells, when or where she, is to be or appearing on any show till after the fact. Or was Kate filing a new lawsuit/on the phone all weekend with lawyer. Or maybe the half-ass excuse, I spent all weekend reading the not a contest stuff, she will have some lamo excuse. She really loves & cares for her fans, doesn't she. snark! LOL
Mel said... 36
But Jon was dating long before the divorce was final. I think that point is being missed.
I wish he would have waited to date until the divorce was at least filed for, and he wasn't living on the property any more. Or even better, waited til the divorce was final.
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I find that a bit unfair to Jon.
As someone who lived in a dead marriage for quite some time before the separation, filing and eventual divorce, it can be a whole lot longer than you think, that a person in a marriage has been living alone.
For Jon, I think that was quite a long time and on top of that, once separated, there is a waiting period before you can file for divorce- at least it was in PA when I got divorced.
So, the marriage, again, was o-v-e-r.
I think Jon could have kept a lower profile, but you know, that might have been impossible given that he had a phalanx of paparazzi everywhere he went, armed with weapons-grade camera lenses, no less!
Living the life he'd lived, he had to know that every move he made would be put under a microscope and judged, so why incur all that. Just wait out the months it takes til the divorce is final.
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I understand this point, but on the other hand, TLC had a huuuge part in the "perception" and "spin". The minute he decided her was no longer going be held in shackles, the smear campaign began, with that bitch of a wife going along with it. I'm sure she even was involved with the big wigs at TLC, "masterminding" his demise.
If I might generalize for a moment, here's my observation about men and being alone; by and large, they can't do it!
I think men need companionship and to be taken care of, plus procreate more a whole lot more and sooner than women.
I just think women are the stronger sex.
OrangeCrusher1 said... 34
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I echo your sediments 100%
But Jon was dating long before the divorce was final. I think that point is being missed.
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Didn't Kate say she told Jon that it was over sometimes in 2008?
Haven't read everything written yet, but I haven't heard anyone say that a parent should never date. And, I think that we can agree that divorce can be preferable to a toxic one.
The difference in this situation, from all of the examples people are sharing, is that there was a public record being made--and, a very ugly one at that. If the kids didn't know about his "dating" at the time, they will have learned about it at some point. The trauma can also happen when they find out about it--not just while it is happening. THey are going to see that their parents marriage was over within months of their recommitment ceremony. They are going to put together dates and match them up with their own memories. And, they are not going to know what or who to believe. And, even if they manage to somehow escape the trauma, it will leak into their adult relationships years and decades later. How do you think Jon and TFW got the way they are? They are simply living out their family scripts because, without intervention, it is what we all do. People who come from dysfunctional families find others that somehow mirror themselves or another family member. I'm sure that TFW was charmed by Jon's laid-back attitude and willingness to carry out her bidding. And, he, who was kind of drifting through life, was probably attracted to her directing him. That's how it works in the beginning--the thing we love the most in someone is often the very thing we grow to hate later on.
I think that we also agree that there are right ways to handle a divorce, and wrong ways. So, what we have here are 2 people who handled their separation and divorce in the worst way possible. That is what I am seeing, and that is why I fear for the kids future mental state. They have a horrific role model and have done enormous damage to their children. We are seeing just some of that in the twins comments.
Sorry for the length of the post, and if my use of the word "we" implies that I am speaking for everyone. I mean it is a more general way, and, of course, there will always be exceptions.
Anonymous said... 38
"It's better to come from a broken home than to live in one." I don't know who said it first, but Ann Landers comes to mind.
Unfortunately, for these kids, they did and still do live in a broken home.
PJ
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I don't disagree with that statement, but it's a false dichotomy. A divorced home is better than an acrimonious married home- unless the acrimony not only continues, but infests like a pernicious parasite.
I think that the G kids just traded one caustic situation for another.
The tension that they must live with because their parents hate one another puts MY stomach in knots.
I just want to say that I hate autocorrect! It would be better to just red underline the mistakes so that they can be seen instead of sticking words in that make no sense! Or, at least show us the words that were changed in a different color--that would be useful!
Here's a documentary I saw on HBO it's about divorce and children it was pretty good.
http://www.hbo.com/video/video.html/?autoplay=true&vid=1278308&filter=all-documentaries&view=null
On the west coast...
I worked on a psychiatric adolescent unit as a counselor, for which I took a one year master's program--I had a Bachelor's degree in Psychology. I worked there for 5 years, including while going to nursing school, and after, as an RN. I decided I wanted a break from psych, so I worked on a regional Burn Unit. I quit full-time nursing after my 3rd child was born within 4 years. I made a career change after that. So, sorry, no discrepancy here. But, my kids are now in early 30s, so it has been awhile.
TLC had a huuuge part in the "perception" and "spin". ... I'm sure she even was involved with the big wigs at TLC, "masterminding" his demise.
So true about the spin. He didn't stand a chance.
You wonder how much she had to do with him being photographed with the teacher. That always had the smell of a set-up.
Just because she was more discreet in hanging out with Steve doesn't mean that she wasn't doing the same thing Jon was...finding companionship elsewhere.
It's really "amusing" that some believe Jon should not have dated until the divorce was final, but are so very silent on the fact that Kate was spending all of her time away from home with a man who was not her husband.
If I might generalize for a moment, here's my observation about men and being alone; by and large, they can't do it!
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I absolutely agree!!! I feel men have different needs than women do, nothing wrong with that, we are just different. I think their source of companionship comes from the significant woman in their lives, whereas women (me and most women I know) can get that fulfilment from girlfriends. Plus, I feel his needs, whether they were physical or not, were not being met for a veeeerrrryyy long time. I'm sure sex was one of the big things he was missing, but they need women for a whole lot more than just that, and we all witnessed what exactly he was getting from tfw.
Tucker's mom said...
As someone who lived in a dead marriage for quite some time before the separation, filing and eventual divorce, it can be a whole lot longer than you think, that a person in a marriage has been living alone.
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Yes, I agree that dead marriage is a very lonely place. I have no doubt that you handled your divorce with the same grace and wisdom that we see here. Unlike either of the Gosselins.
Since the kids watch the show, it is just a matter of time before they start piecing together a timeline. Remember when Jon was gone "helping his mother" ? And then he went to Utah to ski with disabled children? There were tabloid stories that he was seen with Deanna Hummel on that trip. Think about how disorienting that could be--that is the effects of having your own reality twisted and manipulated by someone else. It can be devastating and traumatizing. The trauma happens when the realization comes, which can be years later.
Jon and Liz will be on Wendy Williams tomorrow
http://www.wendyshow.com/2014/01/10/couples-therapy/#.UtQxItL2YjU
I see that Jon & Liz are going to be on the Wendy Williams Show tomorrow.
Maybe we have different definitions of what constitutes a string? Off the top of my head, there were at least 5 confirmed women, under the age of 25, in 2009 ( or early 2010). This does not include rumored one-night stands, public flirting or Ellen. To me, that is a string--others may not agree.
If I were Jon and had to stand by while Kate buggered off with the bodyguard every chance she got, I think I'd start getting a little suspicous of their activities too. And I'd REALLY be pissed if she came home one day and told me the marriage was over, but to keep up the facade for money's sake.
She wanted him to stick around so the show could go on but as far as sleeping with him - nope. What was he supposed to do? Watch her carry on with Steve? Of course he's going to go out with other women.
And you can bet just as soon as Jon was out the door and Kate realized he wasn't going to do the show anymore, she lay in a crumpled mass in her bed a la Skyjump style and cried like a baby, and not for the loss of her marriage either.
That's not to say any of it was 'right' or 'normal' but nothing about the whole Jon & Kate story has been from the beginning. Apparently neither one of them had very good moral hygiene or they wouldn't have allowed TLC in the door in the first place.
That the kids will be affected by their parents' divorce and their post-divorce behavior is a given, but that's just one part of the whole train wreck. I can't see how any of them will come out of this unscathed and in need of some sort of professional help to figure it all out.
I wish he would have waited to date until the divorce was at least filed for, and he wasn't living on the property any more. Or even better, waited til the divorce was final.
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I find that a bit unfair to Jon.
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I'm with Mel on this one. Jon had a responsibility to make sure the kids had adapted a little more to the idea that their parents were divorcing before cavorting so soon with the likes of Deanna H., Stephanie, Kate M. and Hailey. Paparazzi and TLC hounding him so much during that time is another good reason he should have acted with more restraint, or at least discretion. I know we can debate the validity of the relationships I listed but we each have our own take on that. I know mine is in the minority here. That's okay.
While Jon did come to have a couple of more settled, longer relationships, we really don't know the ins and outs of those. To hear his latest girlfriend tell it on the CT clip, when they broke up for a brief spell he dated a couple of women and moved one in for a while. Certainly he's allowed to lead his life as he sees fit, I just think it stinks for the kids.
Kate in her own ways is still worse.
Rhythm that's sad. The other thing too is that sometimes adults have to think long term. Even if the child today is apprehensive about a new stepparent, sometimes loving that child means thinking of your own happiness too and you and your child's future 30 years from now. That child doesn't quite grasp yet that soon their parent won't the center of their universe. Soon they will have other interests, move out, and start their own lives. And their parent will be staring down 30 years or more of being alone.
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Yes, that's true. At the time, though, you don't think what it would be like down the road in 20 or 30 years. If you're recently widowed with young kids (or even divorced), you're so busy taking care of those kids and your household is active. Time goes so fast, though, and the children are gone before you know it.
What my relative said that she misses so much is having her husband come home for dinner, having kids at the dinner table, with all the chatter about the day's events, and then that quiet time when the kids are asleep and she's in bed, talking about normal everyday things with her husband. She finds herself not cooking because there's no point to prepare meals for just one person, but rather she goes for take-out or eats frozen dinners. There is no need for homework help, packing lunch boxes, getting ready for the next day...all of the things one does so routinely and seldom thinking, "what if I didn't have this to do?" The time may come when you won't have to do it.
Her friends have families of their own. I imagine it gets very lonely, especially after having a very busy household with a husband and children, and then poof...they're gone. I remember reading Erma Bombeck's "Wet Oatmeal Kisses, " and thinking how sad that would be. I guess we all need to appreciate what we have now before those special moments become just a memory.
That was unprecedented given the complexities and I suspect he gave up a lot just to get it over with. And for many people it was long over before ever dating regardless when they finally filed. Anyway because it's so hard to get a quickie divorce anymore
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I thought she filed no-fault, which usually takes about five months to be finalized. There is a 90-day "cooling off" period after the complaint is filed. If neither contests, they file the actual written declarations.
My outdoor cats are happy. It's 55 degrees and sunny and after the frigid weather, they probably think they're in the Caribbean. Cold snap coming again at the end of the week. They'll probably be house guests again.
Tucker's Mom said... 41
''I find that a bit unfair to Jon.
As someone who lived in a dead marriage for quite some time before the separation, filing and eventual divorce, it can be a whole lot longer than you think, that a person in a marriage has been living alone.
For Jon, I think that was quite a long time and on top of that, once separated, there is a waiting period before you can file for divorce- at least it was in PA when I got divorced.
So, the marriage, again, was o-v-e-r.''
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Vanessa said... 42
''I understand this point, but on the other hand, TLC had a huuuge part in the "perception" and "spin". The minute he decided her was no longer going be held in shackles, the smear campaign began, with that bitch of a wife going along with it. I'm sure she even was involved with the big wigs at TLC, "masterminding" his demise. ''
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I agree with both of you. Also, as Jon has pointed out, people aren't taking into consideration the time frame between what was filmed and real time. The viewers are watching episodes of 'the past', and the paps/tabloids are recording the present, which caused a false impression. There is an interview out there when he discusses the problem.
I've not had my coffee yet, so I'm not 'together' enough to find the interview. Actually, I think I'm not awake enough to make a lick of sense, but hope you know what I'm attempting to say!
Honestly, what business is it of anyone here when Jon dated, who he dates, what the timeframe of their marriage, end of marriage, divorce, is/was? Such a dead horse IMO, add it to the pile of moving on. If you're concern is the well being of the children, then focus on the here and now, and the future. I feel the same about Robert and his tease about books and journals. Honestly don't care anymore.
Forgot to mention...
I went to the store today, checked out the People magazines, which were placed directly above the In Touch. I didn't see anyone even curious enough to flip through either of them. The woman ahead of me looked at me as I thumbed through the pile to see how many had been sold, and she said, "God, not again. What a wretched, wretched woman. Must be sleeping with someone at People."
For once in my life, I kept my mouth shut.
Kate must be up to something. She has not twittered since the 11th. Did she go on a mini-vacation, or is she going to say she was sick? Or did she film something.
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Does anyone except Milo and the few remaining fans really care? :)
OrangeCrusher1 said... 64
''Honestly, what business is it of anyone here when Jon dated, who he dates, what the timeframe of their marriage, end of marriage, divorce, is/was? Such a dead horse IMO, add it to the pile of moving on....''
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AMEN! In my head I'm like the scene Admin posted: Shutup shutup shutup shutup shutup SHUT UP!!! In keeping with that thought, I am going to shut up!
Watching a divorced couple on Dr.Phil and the ex-wife sound just like Kate.
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Sure Jon shouldn't have been seeing woman during their div/separation but then again .
Kate should have been traveling all over the US with her "friends" husband for days/weeks at a time.
@StEvieAreUokay: Why is #people magazine giving that Kate Gosselin a cover? U think the public
@williamreid: It's 2014, why is Kate Gosselin still on magazine covers?
Over In TFW's County said... 65
Forgot to mention...
I went to the store today, checked out the People magazines, which were placed directly above the In Touch. I didn't see anyone even curious enough to flip through either of them. The woman ahead of me looked at me as I thumbed through the pile to see how many had been sold, and she said, "God, not again. What a wretched, wretched woman. Must be sleeping with someone at People."
For once in my life, I kept my mouth shut.
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Wow, that says a lot. I'm guessing that folks in your area are sooooo over Katie Kreider.
Watching Katie C. last week, talking to Kate Coyne about Kate's and the twins' cover story, I was sitting next to my MIL and Kate didn't even register on her radar. No reaction.
I think Kate doesn't make a blip on most people's radar!
Who? What? Next!
It was only a matter of time...Nadya Suleman has been charged with welfare fraud.
http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2014/01/octomom-charged-felony-welfare-fraud/
She just got a check for 75,000 ....she's probably in the Bahamas!
Paula said... 53
It's really "amusing" that some believe Jon should not have dated until the divorce was final, but are so very silent on the fact that Kate was spending all of her time away from home with a man who was not her husband.
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Agree with you 100%. But you need to add that some believe that he should not be dating now and should wait until the children are grown before even looking at a woman.
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OrangeCrusher1 said... 64
''Honestly, what business is it of anyone here when Jon dated, who he dates, what the timeframe of their marriage, end of marriage, divorce, is/was? Such a dead horse IMO, add it to the pile of moving on....''
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AMEN! In my head I'm like the scene Admin posted: Shutup shutup shutup shutup shutup SHUT UP!!! In keeping with that thought, I am going to shut up!
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Must get the Skylar ringtone!
Loved that "Jesse Pinkman" gave a "Yo, Bitch!" at the Golden Globes last night!
Wow, that says a lot. I'm guessing that folks in your area are sooooo over Katie Kreider.
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LOL I got KK book I just want you to know a few months ago my friend walked in and asked me WTF did I have her book while rolling her eyes.
And she doesn't/didn't watch J&K+8 or even K+8 I thought her reaction was funny.
JR said... 72
She just got a check for 75,000 ....she's probably in the Bahamas!
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Or perhaps busy contacting talent agencies for the twins.
For once in my life, I kept my mouth shut.
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Wow, that says a lot. I'm guessing that folks in your area are sooooo over Katie Kreider.
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It says a lot that I kept my mouth shut, or that the people here can't stand her? LOL!!!
JR said... 72
She just got a check for 75,000 ....she's probably in the Bahamas!
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It'd be funny if People witheld her check until after this week's unsold copies were returned and subtracted say $1.88 or a $ 1.53 (1+5+3=9--trying to use 8's or come up with combos of 9) for each unsold copy from that $75,000.
Maybe we have different definitions of what constitutes a string? Off the top of my head, there were at least 5 confirmed women, under the age of 25, in 2009 ( or early 2010). This does not include rumored one-night stands, public flirting or Ellen. To me, that is a string--others may not agree.
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Others may agree or not agree, but aren't getting into the conversation and have moved on. I guess I'm at a loss why this is even being brought up again. Good grief...this was years ago, and we don't know how many there were, what the time frame was, who he got into the sack with, ad nauseam. Why is this so important...and to whom? Why don't you ask him if he has notches in his belt, or if he keeps a detailed journal describing his encounters and how far he got with each of them? My gosh, let it go!
Rhythm of Life said:
Her friends have families of their own. I imagine it gets very lonely, especially after having a very busy household with a husband and children, and then poof...they're gone. I remember reading Erma Bombeck's "Wet Oatmeal Kisses, " and thinking how sad that would be. I guess we all need to appreciate what we have now before those special moments become just a memory.
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Girl, this is something that has been on my mind, as my only child will be 16 soon, and already our lives are beginning to diverge. I know the natural upshot of being a parent is waving goodbye as your young leave the nest. However, in my case, once he's off to college, I'll probably be caring for an adult disabled sibling and possibly an elderly parent. Still, I'm taking steps to create activities for myself once again, because I don't want to be sitting in my empty quiet house with only my memories of busier days!
What does it even matter he dated younger woman? He was barely 32 years old, not 70. Even so, two of the happiest most healthy couples I know the man is 10 years older and 28 years old respectively. The self righteousness is mind numbing. I'm with you Pat, let it go.
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Loved that "Jesse Pinkman" gave a "Yo, Bitch!" at the Golden Globes last night!
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Madreof1 @Madreof1 35m
I have the worst cough ever....and my lungs are clear. Then I am told it allergies.Does this sound right? @Kateplusmy8
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Unless this fan lives on a remote desert island, wouldn't you think that there would be physicians in the area who could correctly diagnosis this? Kate is the to-go person for a possible allergy problem?
Sheep are so needy.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...(81)
"What does it even matter he dated younger woman? He was barely 32 years old, not 70."
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Isn't Kate older than Jon? And either way, so what? Oh geeze, breaking news, four years ago, a 30 something year old dated a couple of 20 something year olds after the separation from his wife.
It's all ridiculous and I'm done bringing it up too.
I'm pretty sure the Gosselin kids will have plenty of questions and concerns as they process their childhoods and experiences as they grow up.
But I'm guessing that way down on the list is going to be who Daddy dated in 2009. They were still being filmed and exposed to a myriad of people coming and going on a regular basis.
How would they even know?
The current topic is episode two of Jon on Couples Therapy. It stands to reason that with a topic like that, his dating history and how that has impacted the kids and people's perceptions of him are valid discussions.
I don't understand why this is such a hot button issue for this group. Often topics come up where posters respectfully agree to disagree. As a poster with a contrary view on this topic (and not just for contrary's sake), I would like to see the discussion develop like most other topics here do rather than calls for the opinions to be halted.
I keep reading on here that Kate received $75,000. from People Magazine. Where did that information came from?
Too bad we don't have the audio "shutup, shutup" link in the comment box. It would get worn out like an old record on here.
Virginia Pen Mom, thanks for the compliment but I'm not sure it's attributed to being wise. It's just instinct. My son comes first always and forever. :) He is literally the light of my life.
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It's almost reached the beating a dead horse stage. But, that's just my opinion, so I scroll by.
Carry on.
Agree with all those that say, LET.IT.GO!
I keep reading on here that Kate received $75,000. from People Magazine. Where did that information came from?
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I don't know but one of the recent commenters on the People site offered this:
Midwest Mom • a day ago
People did not pay Kate to be on the cover or for pictures, etc. This cover was done to help the family get a new show and improve their PR. People doesn't need to pay people like Kate to be on the cover...... Kate NEEDS People.....People doesn't need Kate.
How much longer are we going to beat a dead horse that was 2009?
As a poster with a contrary view on this topic (and not just for contrary's sake), I would like to see the discussion develop like most other topics here do rather than calls for the opinions to be halted.
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Are you referring to Jon's dating habits, who he slept with, how many girlfriends he had and when he had them? If so, why would a discussion on this be relevant? It's over, it's done, and since only Jon and the women know exactly what happened, nothing would be proven or disputed. What is the purpose?
I don't think it's a "hot button." It just wears thin after awhile, and it seems to me to be pointless given that no conclusion can be found because speculation would be based on facts unknown.
It gives the parent other interests other than constantly checking in on the child
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Please don't misunderstand. I have plenty of interests. I'm certainly not dependent upon my son for entertainment.
He's only going to be 'little' for so long. I just choose to take advantage of this special time. They grow up soooo fast! And I don't want to miss a thing.
Another 10 or so years and I'll have the rest of my life to do what I want. It's not like it's a sacrifice or anything. I love being a mom.
I agree with Fleecing. Going around and around about someone's dating history has little value. It's not the same as discussing current child exploitation or what's going on currently. At this point it is derailing the blog and enough people are tired of it that I'm going to ask it to stop. Further comments that I judge to be going around in circles on it or derailing my blog a ill not be published unless it somehow becomes relevant again. It's not a hot button. It's more like an old and tired button who is asking for a break.
Admin: I agree with you and PatK. I do understand why Jon did what he did, it's not hard to see. Jon put up with a lot of crap from Kate, it's a wonder he lasted that long in that marriage, most other men would have divorced her long ago, or just went & hid in a man-cave somewhere or physically fought back. When Jon & Kate were together they actually were not together, physically there, emotionally not. Think about all the things Jon did after they separated, these are probably things he wanted to do with Kate, but Kates idea of what the perfect couple did were very different. Kate, put her/saw herself in a different social society, from where she came from(that's probably one reason why she got rid of her family, they were an embarassment). Nothing but the top of the line, best of everything, top school, first class etc. Where Jon, was & is comfy on going to the local pub and having a drink or two and mingling with the locals doing local things, getting dirty.. Kate looked down on the locals, regular, normal average people as servants, slaves, yes people, dirt, look at the way she treated service people(not military). Kate lives in her own world, and she is sucking those kids or trying to suck those kids into that warped world. That People article is pure Kate thinking, she even said so in the article. Her & the twins sat down an talked about what was going on with their dad, how what he was doing was wrong, leaving completely out what she has/is doing wrong, cause we all know Kate thinks she is 100% right and everyone else is wrong. Her way or the highway.
Jon & Liz, is appearance on Wendy, will make Kate mad, cause , here is Kate with her new cookbook out and only a few had her on their show. Katie & Today, Hallmark the other shows were in Canada, and a few others I've never heard of. Kate also was hoping for Talk show coverage, cause of her new direction, using the twins. So far nothing.
I was at the Jewel food store and they had plenty of People and a few covered up by other mags(not me), even the bookstore had plenty.
Jon should have/Jon shouldn't have? The real question for me is how many times has this been discussed with the twins and by whom? I think it's a safe bet that it wasn't their father. That's what bothers me the most. Remember, she tightly controls what they see/hear/read.
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handinhand said... 85
The current topic is episode two of Jon on Couples Therapy
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I thought Jon and Liz didn't make it to L.A. in time for the second episode?
(haven't watched yet)
From the teaser clip, it sounds like Jon dated around when he and Liz were broken up. I didn't even realize they broke up or when they got back together.
It was my understanding from past cover photos that People does pay for the cover shot but not for the article.
I don't think it's a "hot button." It just wears thin after awhile, and it seems to me to be pointless given that no conclusion can be found because speculation would be based on facts unknown.
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If any of Jon's sex life is germane at all, it might be when we see his "counseling" session on CT. The teaser indicates that he's quite the horn dog when not in a relationship.
I can only imagine that there are still plenty of stupid women out there who would sleep with him because he's famous.
Derail the blog from what?
It's not a hot button. It's more like an old and tired button who is asking for a break.
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Or one that fell off an old pair of pants and you just don't feel like sewing it back on again.
If you ladies are history buffs looking for something interesting to watch, CSPAN is continuing their First Ladies series tonight @ 9:00. Tonight's episode is on Nancy Reagan. I have not seen them all, but the 3 I have watched have been very well done.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 3m
@EmCr68 @Kateplusmy8 @peoplemag LOL I have no doubt! We have 2support & protect our #ExtendedFamily! :) #MomKate
Oh my word.
Solved blind item today over at Blind Gossip. Farrah's "people" called the Golden Globe ticket committee and tried to score a pair of tickets for her by wowing them with her "accomplishments" (now is a good time to swallow completely any beverage you might be enjoying) Farrah’s publicist pitched her to the ticket committee as “… a New York Times best selling author and the #1 Googled reality TV star of 2013. Farrah can currently be seen starring in the VH1 hit series Couples Therapy.”
Among other things, this is one of the most irksome and laughable qualities of a reality show participant. They think they are equals and that they belong among legendary actors and actresses. I always cringe when Kate tweets the talented and hardworking real celebrities who fought for their children's privacy from the paps. The actresses behind this law truly and legitimately want their children to have total privacy. Kate has already sold her children's privacy for millions of dollars. She just sold it again last week. What pisses Kate off about the paps is that she can't stand the thought of someone other than herself making a buck off her kids. Completely different concept. But there Kate is, making a fool of herself and tweeting away like she's old buds with those women. Embarrasing.
handinhand, I was quite enjoying the discussion. Why can't people scroll if they're not interested? I do it plenty of times.
I thought the discussion was polite, at least. And it's not like there's any other discussions going on.
Over In TFW's County said... 104
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 3m
@EmCr68 @Kateplusmy8 @peoplemag LOL I have no doubt! We have 2support & protect our #ExtendedFamily! :) #MomKate
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What a strange fruit Milo is and a creepy one to.
Sheeple
Sheeple who need People
Are the luckiest Sheeple who buy the twins cover all over the world
Were children calling out dad and other children
And yet, letting kate and her petty pride
Hide the kids pain all inside
Sheeple
Sheeple who needs kG
To sell all the covers that kG and KC
Conspire and double team to do....
Sheeple
People needs Sheeple
Sheeple that buy People
Are the luckiest Sheeple in the world
That kG has fooled over and over all over the world!
Just a quick comment. I want to thank you all for your humor, recipes, book recommendations and snark!! :)
After a slow-coming realization that what I've been spending, to me, is an inordinate amount of time on a mediocre, going nowhere, reality TV personality, I need to move on for the sake of ME ME ME.
Netflix and my love of reading have been two saving graces that have allowed me to realize I need to move on and pursue my other interests. As coincidence does come around from time to time, I happened to check out a book at the library today and found a documentary on Netflix about a subject I'm most interested in; WWII and, specifically the Nazi atrocities of the concentration camps.
I'm not ancient...yet, but I realize I want to spend my time taking advantage of the internet and my local library (and a bit of cooking) and indulge myself in more of the worthwhile interests I've had for a long time...snarking for me is done.
Happy Trails, all. You're a great group. :)
And it's not like there's any other discussions going on.
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I thought the discussion was about women being strong and men being wusses (plural - wussi?) and without us they'd be jelly.
@MiloandJack: @EmCr68 @Kateplusmy8 @peoplemag Would U believe I can't find it anywhere..went back 2day 2usual outlets..said they ran out & no new ones! :(
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Where is poor Milo shopping for the magazine? Lets see, There are no copies to be had at all in Milo's town but Em was able to buy a copy for every room in her house. Maybe Em should send a copy to Milo. I was in Safeway today and there were many copies on the racks at checkout. She even included @people in her tweet! Look behind the copies on In Touch Milo. I know you want everyone to believe that it's flying off the shelves but unfortunately Tweeting it doesn't make it so Milo.
I've been watching Guy Vs. Rachel Celebrity Cook Off and Florence Henderson has been seated on stools a lot because she broke a bone in her foot. A much different scenario than when TFW supposedly broke her foot.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/business/blog/tourism-central/os-amid-blackfish-controversy-seaworld-sets-attendance-record-20140113,0,642857.post
Welp, if we can't continue to discuss the disgusting behaviour of Jon Gosselin, maybe we could discuss this? The hell? Is SeaWorld lying?? I find this hard to believe.
tweet-le DONE said... 109
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You've got to do what you've got to do. Enjoy!
Ree Drummond Dominates 2013 Cookbook Sales
Ree Drummond aka The Pioneer Woman, dominated the cookbook sales for the year of 2013 with both her new cookbook and previously released cookbooks. Despite not releasing her newest book, The Pioneer Woman Cooks: A Year of Holidays, until October 1st, the book was the top selling book of the year with 367,000 copies sold....
Wow! Just that one book has sold 367K since October 1st in 3 months!
Awesome, PW!
I think there are blogs out there where discussion of Jon's "disgusting behaviour" (ad nauseum) is very much welcomed. I'm sure the owners of said blogs would love more input.
Why don't cooler heads prevail and all the talk about Jon and his dating habits wait until AFTER he has appeared on CT. Since a scene with him in it hasn't even been on an episode yet, nobody even knows what the hell he's going to say. After he's appeared, have at it and discuss the episode.
So the topic is Couples Therapy, and the twins have been quoted talking about their fathers dating in 2009, but it is not a relevant topic? Then what is? Cats? Rumspringa?
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Hey! Leave my cats and kegs out of this!
I'm reminded of FDR and the Fala Speech. LOL!
Hi tweet Le done! Real life is so much more interesting than mediocre boring oh-so-predictable TFMJG!
Luke bandit, your song is great!
#voteshaka.com #shameless begging #GoVCU!
Over In TFW's County said... 104
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 3m
@EmCr68 @Kateplusmy8 @peoplemag LOL I have no doubt! We have 2support & protect our #ExtendedFamily! :) #MomKate
Oh my word.
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Perhaps she is just checking for polyps...
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Best wishes to you, old friend!
Ex nurse I don't care what you want to discuss other than what you've been asked multiple times to move on from but as my mother would say this is not open to debate. Enough people have spoken up saying they want to move on, and I made the call. One person does not get to dictate what the conversation is if a lot of other people are sick of it. And, it's just rude to the people here to keep bringing it up when they've asked you nicely to put a sock in it for over a year now. Don't like it, go somewhere else. It's not a democracy.
Lukebandit, the total number of cookbooks sold by PW in 2013 was 670,000, which included her other cookbooks. Wow.
Greedy Gosselins said:
Please don't misunderstand. I have plenty of interests. I'm certainly not dependent upon my son for entertainment.
He's only going to be 'little' for so long. I just choose to take advantage of this special time. They grow up soooo fast! And I don't want to miss a thing.
Another 10 or so years and I'll have the rest of my life to do what I want. It's not like it's a sacrifice or anything. I love being a mom.
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I completely understand where you are coming from and feel the same way. My son has added so much to my life and I love being a mom and having our own small family unit. And the years have indeed flown by, way too fast. I will be 54 when he is off to college, with many years ahead of me for 'my time." I'll enjoy having so much time to do as I choose but I will certainly miss the days of raising my son. I truly believe these have been the happiest years of my life.
In the comments section of one of the tabloids a post said tfw had a new dating show,and would be gone for 90 days. Kind of long for her worship to be away from her money-makers for, IF it is true.
seriously dudettes?
we are better than petty squabbles.....
maybe time to re-focus on things.
Admin? Drew Barrymore is expecting her ,2 nd child, ...is learning to cook, and just released a book it took her 10+ years to publish...
was on Ellen yesterday.
ps. tfw still sucks
franky
tweet-le DONE---I've always enjoyed your posts and I will miss you--but you've got to do what you've got to do.
Have fun and enjoy!!
URL basically what Seaworld did was slash prices dramatically and if I recall they even had several free days for kids, which helps gets people in the door so they can say don't look over here don't look at that attendance is up, see see? Unfortunately as well, a good number of people won't see or digest that documentary. I'm into that stuff and I even went so far as to read the pages and pages of police reports from the incident, but I am under no illusions that most people would go to the trouble of doing that (if they did, they'd be horrified.) Many people don't watch documentaries at all. Many more don't want to hear about sad things. While it is easier to look away, is that really what is right? I firmly believe that one day we will be horrified at what our "ancestors" did at Seaworld. We will look upon it with the same contempt as freak shows. They have a chance now to still be a player in marine biology and transform themselves into an educational theme park that does not enslave animals in bath tubs, but they refuse to take it.
I still don't know what exactly they intend to do when OSHA's sanctions hold up and they can't put on whale shows anymore the way they used to. They can't honestly be banking on winning their appeal.
In the comments section of one of the tabloids a post said tfw had a new dating show,and would be gone for 90 days. Kind of long for her worship to be away from her money-makers for, IF it is true.
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If that were true, wouldn't you think that Milo would know, and she'd be so giddy with the news that she couldn't contain her excitement? She'd have to spill...
Welp, if we can't continue to discuss the disgusting behaviour of Jon Gosselin
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That is not what was said at all. Don't twist my words. I am specifically asking ex Nurse to stop derailing the blog. She knows exactly what she is doing--and if she doesn't, I can't help her. I don't have an issue with anyone else here.
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I read this on Wiki about Ree Drummond's blog success. I thought it was interesting especially since it was mentioned in People that Kate is partially living off of her blog money (bullshsit). The artiicle below states that Ree earns a million or more a year just off of her blog. Take that Kate Gosselin and shove it up your crapfest outdated blog!
"As of September 2009, Drummond's blog reportedly received 13 million page views per month. On May 9, 2011, the blog's popularity had risen to approximately 23.3 million page views per month and 4.4 million unique visitors. According to an article in The New Yorker, "This is roughly the same number of people who read The Daily Beast". An article in the Toronto Globe and Mail described it as "[s]lickly photographed with legions of fans . . . arguably the mother of all farm girl blogs."The blog has been referenced in the Los Angeles Times, The New York Times, and BusinessWeek. In 2009 TIME Magazine named Drummond's Confessions of a Pioneer Woman one of the "25 Best Blogs" in the world. Estimates for her site's income suggest she is making a million dollars or more per year from display (advertisement) income alone.
Drummond's blog is especially noted for its visually descriptive recipes and high-quality photography.
For what it's worth -- January 15 is Full Wolf Moon, whatever that means, so if anyone feels like howling a little bit more than usual, I guess you could blame it on that.
Yes Ree's blog is great and that's why it eventually started making her big bucks.
She does some major things that Kate and many other mommy bloggers who fail are missing. She is a very good writer, her writing is interesting and engaging and funny (for many readers, it's not for everyone.) Good writing is essential. She is a good photographer. Either you need to be good at that or hire someone who is. No, she's not the best and some of her sets I would have sent to the trash bin, but she is good enough to be publishing on a professional blog. She writes good tutorials that are clear and not condescending. When I first got back into photography some time ago, I read HER tutorials first to help refresh my memory about how aperture and shutter speed and all that worked together. It says a lot that I turned to a Mommy blogger to get me kick started over the many other good photography web sites out there.
She does GREAT giveaways for GREAT stuff like mixers and iPads. She is detail oriented. She provides links to things she is talking about, doesn't make a typo, makes sure when she mentions her cookbook it is easy to find and order--the reader is never frustrated. She allows comments (Kate doesn't) yet always moderates them so that there is civil discussion.
The biggest thing she does, though, is she always strives to get better. Whether it's cooking or photography or writing, she has a real passion for learning, trying things, working at it. And clearly she has a passion for her blog. This comes across in the blog, and gives it the magic it needed to hit it big. We all want to believe that if we just work at it we too can grow and get better especially with the help of someone like her.
She also, of course has a big staff now to keep a great blog going. Kate is just not willing to put in the kind of effort she has and for that reason Kate's blog will never even come close. She wants to phone it in, 20 minutes here 20 minutes there, and that will rarely work in most industries and certainly not in the mommy blogging world. Or for that matter, anything else Kate dabbles in.
Tweet do check back in from time to time if you want to! If you're still here, what documentary was that?
I watched Bridegroom this weekend and was very moved by it. Netflix truly is a treasure. I also owe a world of thank you to this blog for mentioning that you can get free kindle books through your library. My cup runneth over. I am currently reading The Wolf of Wall Street, The Outliers, and a Clark Howard nonfiction. They have so many new books and best sellers, the only catch is sometimes there is a bit of a wait but I don't care about that.
Tweetle - I will miss your posts. Best wishes to you. I hope you will check in now and again.
Dwindle - Always glad to see a comment from you. Hope you have been well.
Speaking of blogs, I wondered how Kate's coupon thing was going since Milo isn't gushing about it as much. I checked it out. Of the 10 featured stores, four of them have pages not found, or no active coupons. Clicks on the other stores simply takes you to the store
website with the sales listed there. She really just doesn't seem to care.
Oh, and Walgreens has coupons for Trojans and FertilAid For Men Natural Fertility Supplement. Not sure if it's Kate's Pick of the Week or not.
Tweetle dee Don't. Will miss your funny posts. Please come by when you can.
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I took the 670K books and averaged 15 dollars per book, that is over 10 million dollars!! A million per year for her very nice blog. Wow!
If kate would of put more effort in her website. But kate wants it all, money making website, clothes sold at the consignment shop, sell books, interest off her investments, AND that is still not enough money to satisfy her. She still wants to put the kids on tv to make more money, even though she doesn't need it.
If it is true and TFW has a dating show, first of all her name on there should be Kate Kreider, not Kate Gosselin! She should not be allowed to use the Gosselin name.
If she is gone for 90 days, this needs to happen, but I know it will never happen. Jon needs to move into the compound and take care of the kids. It would save kate from having to pay someone to do it, unless she negotiates child care from the show. The kids would be so much better off. In their own beds at home, Jon taking them to school and he could work during the day and pick them up after school and take them to their activities, friends and family while kate plays coy, half drunk and letting the bachelors lick her foot!
This is astounding to me! NPR story on January 13: ”Is '16 and Pregnant ' an effective form of birth control?”
Amazingly, some economics researchers, looking for causes of the more rapid drop in teen pregnancy rates seen in recent years, studied twitter and google data (!) And attribute about 6% of the drop to teens WATCHING THIS SHOW! I am just astounded!
So go Farrah, your cray-cray antics have not glamorized teen pregnancy. In fact, tweets during viewing showed viewers commenting about how the show was a good form of birth control.
The researchers has never watched 16 and Pregnant before the study. They did watch after gathering their data and found it to be quite depressing.
Inn the eighteen month period the researchers looked out, they determined the reversion was responsible for half the drop in teen births, the show was responsible for one THIRD the drop, and the rest was a continuing downward tend in teen births. Reality TV has an impact on behavior in this case! Wow!
Twitter is not just a cesspool for twidiots. it can be actually a valuable source of data!
Who knew?
Kate is just not willing to put in the kind of effort she has and for that reason Kate's blog will never even come close. She wants to phone it in, 20 minutes here 20 minutes there, and that will rarely work in most industries and certainly not in the mommy blogging world. Or for that matter, anything else Kate dabbles in.
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Kate "chums the waters" on her blog and Twitter.
There is no established format that readers and followers can depend on and expect. It's so random that it's a joke.
I'd be embarrassed and ashamed to put forth such half-ass efforts.
Yet, Kate crows all the darn time about what a paragon of hard working virtue she is to her kids.
If there's not a carrot dangling in front of Kate, she never follows through.
BTW, when is her next marathon???
Anonymous said... 130
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I read this on Wiki about Ree Drummond's blog success. I thought it was interesting especially since it was mentioned in People that Kate is partially living off of her blog money (bullshsit)
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Total BS. No way. Making a little coin? Sure. Paying the bills? Uh uh.
Making real money off of a blog takes a full-time job mentality, because it can take that much to keep it going if you are doing it alone.
It also takes talent; writing, photography, graphics, contests maybe...
Both of Kate's blogs are jokes. Again, I'd be humiliated to put my name on any of her endeavors, except Multiple Blessing, which, of course, she DID NOT WRITE.
Beth Carson did, and that's why it stands apart from anything else Kate's rubber stamp has been put on.
Kate is a twit said... 126
tweet-le DONE---I've always enjoyed your posts and I will miss you--but you've got to do what you've got to do.
Have fun and enjoy!!
January 13, 2014 at 9:15 PM
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Me too. You have to do what feels right.
I hope you check in from time to time.
I know sometimes we get stuck in a rut, but the folks here still inspire me, make me laugh and even make me cry from time to time.
I hope the blog leaves you with an overall positive, learning experience.
Take care!!
I keep reading on here that Kate received $75,000. from People Magazine. Where did that information came from>
One of the posters here said they'd read somewhere that's what People pays for cover photos.
People cover photo fees are negotiable, though. Depending on the 'power' of the celeb, they can negotiate for much higher fees (and there are probably fees lower than the $75K, too). TFW is definitely not in the same league as Brad and Angie's $14 million payday for selling photos of their newborn twins, but it just shows that there is no set photo licensing fee.
Sleepless - You got me curious about the Full Wolf Moon so here's the explanation of the names. Interesting and I learned something today. Thanks. http://tinyurl.com/llt7l2f
tweet-le DONE said… 109
Best wishes! I'll miss reading your insightful, informative posts, but I totally get what you're saying. I sometimes feel as if we're on death watch here, with regards to TFW's dreams of returning to the spotlight. But then a reversal happens, and I realize that her dislike for Jon has no bounds, and that there's no end in sight for her exploitation of the G8.
Out of the quagmire, friendships grew. Our interests extend far and wide, beyond that of the Gosselin-related mishegas. But the infighting here is increasing, it seems, perhaps because we're suffocating under the weight of these realizations.
Real life beckons. Perhaps more of us need to stretch our legs and breathe some fresh air, to focus the lens beyond the seemingly endless stream of tabloid articles, TV appearances and tweets. I'm not suggesting a mass exit, so much as a step back-- or sideways. And only for those who feel its drag and pull.
capecodmama said... 117
Why don't cooler heads prevail and all the talk about Jon and his dating habits wait until AFTER he has appeared on CT. Since a scene with him in it hasn't even been on an episode yet, nobody even knows what the hell he's going to say. After he's appeared, have at it and discuss the episode.
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Agree. I'll set my dvr for Wendy Williams today. Should be interesting. I'm looking forward to seeing Liz "in real life". I've seen photos and read quotes, but really don't have any gist of her.
WW seems to be overall pro-Jon, so I want to see if they talk about he lawsuit and the People cover, if it was out at the time of taping and if Jon knew about it in the first place.
Will give y'all the 411 in a bit!
I will miss your posts Tweetle Done. Enjoy life!
Reality TV has an impact on behavior in this case! Wow!
Twitter is not just a cesspool for twidiots. it can be actually a valuable source of data!
Who knew?
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Wow, Joy, this was very interesting. Maybe it sparks more conversations between parents and young girls.
I'm glad to believe that Farrah A. is nobody's idol, even if young girls see her making bank by doing reality tv and porn and making surrogate genitalia.
I hope that the youth that sees this dreck see what a sleazy, depraved and soulless world Farrah lives in. By choice.
There's been a shakeup at People magazine. I hope this means bubye to Kate Coyne.
"NEW YORK, NY – January 10, 2014 — Time Inc. has named Jess Cagle Editor of PEOPLE and Editorial Director of Entertainment Weekly. Cagle will also oversee the editorial team of PEOPLE.com. A new Editor of Entertainment Weekly, who will report directly to Cagle, will be named shortly. Larry Hackett, Editor of PEOPLE since 2006, will be leaving the company. The announcement was made today by David Geithner, Executive Vice President, Time Inc. and Norman Pearlstine, Executive Vice President and Chief Content Officer, Time Inc. Cagle will continue to report to Geithner, with a dotted line to Pearlstine."
Send your complaints to editor@people.com
New management means most likely a new direction and turnover,
Here's the connection: Kate Coyne is the mother of TWIN boys.
According to others here who watch her Wendy Williams seems to sort of have a good read on the Gosselin situation. Her take on it seems to be as close to our take as any journalist except maybe my boyfriend's Anderson Cooper. I'm looking forward to this interview for the first time maybe ever in Gosselin history.
The article posted a few days ago suggested People was going to do a huge shakeup including staff. Good, I hope Kate Coyne is out of there. And yes it's been mentioned before she has twins. I think somewhere along the way Kate Coyne felt she understood what it was like to be a working mom frazzled with multiples to take care of, and she took the comments about Kate personally.
Kate Coyne? It was NOT personal. We weren't talking about YOU. Good grief.
People cover photo fees are negotiable, though. Depending on the 'power' of the celeb, they can negotiate for much higher fees
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Yes I assume they're negotiable too, and I bet Kate used her last cover as leverage. Even though no one can prove or disprove that the numbers didn't come directly from people who wanted to read about Paula Deen, but whatever. A good manager would use that to get a higher payout. I'm guessing it was more money than most of us make in a year. This for a woman piecing and patching. I wish she would be grateful that one six hour work day is enough to make a year's salary worthy of most people, instead of complaining about struggling.
I busted a gut reading that Farrah tried to get Golden Globe tickets. Just like Kate has finagled in the past.
It really says so much. These people actually think they are stars worthy of walking alongside the likes of Aaron Paul and other modern legends. Most people would be embarrassed to grovel for such a thing and feel unworthy. But they come from a different mindset where they feel like that is their crowd. That takes quite a bit of ego and delusion to think such a thing.
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Bye Tweetle. I will miss you too. I enjoyed your posts, and hope you check in to say hello.
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Tweet-le - So sorry to see you go and hope your decision isn't permanent. I always felt an understanding of where you stood and will miss your comments. Be well!
WW show: crap! I think I missed a lot of it... but here goes:
Jon brought 2 women (count 'em 2, not a string) he dated around his kids in 2009. He pretty much owns dating Kate2, which he denied before.
Kate goads the kids into filming with bribes, he believes
Tony D. had nothing but bad to say about Kate, and WW knows this first hand because he was her teacher on DWTS. TD said it was all about "Queen Kate".
Jon wouldn't take a cut of money if Kate films the kids
Would fight filming. Period. Worked so hard to get them off tv.
Went to family court to stop filming
Kids have education and other trusts
8% of income has gone to trusts
Jon re: CT- blah, blah, nothing new here...
Jon likes the thought of marriage and commitment. Wants that growing old together thing. No more kids tho! He's fixed (thank gawd).
Jon says he's ordinary.
WW was really pleased to meet him
Did anyone catch the interview from beginning?
WW said after commercial break, "we all felt sorry for JG, we all liked him!" and the audience was nodding enthusiastically.
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I busted a gut reading that Farrah tried to get Golden Globe tickets. Just like Kate has finagled in the past.
It really says so much.
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I think it says a lot about what real Hollywood and real celebs think about reality tv personalities.
Julia Roberts- Cristal
Kate Gosselin- rail liquor
Wouldn't it be interesting to know in all the years of Kate's mug on People what she has earned from them? Piecing and patching, indeed! The woman just made more money from that photo shoot than most make in a year. I think what's got Kate concerned these days is continuing to pull in substantial fees for just a few days work. She's got to keep relevant to keep the tabloids, talk shows and cable shows interested. This is what she does everyday.
I don't think her backup plan of putting Mady out there is going to work. She can spend all she's got on singing and dancing lessons, but the bottom line is that the kid does not stand out. In fact, the People article did not portray Mady or Cara in a good light. Who wants to work with bratty teens? They were not well spoken ( just like their mom).
Tweet-le -- I'l miss you and your posts. You always bring a sense of grounded-ness (?) to the blog, pointing out the need to stick to facts. I admit that the insanity of the sheeple is amusing, but sometimes I wonder if, when we read over there (even for snarking), we aren't caught up in the dumbing down process as we shake our heads wondering if some of those people are for real, or just clever baiters.
I stick around for the sociological/psychological aspect of it, as well as the humor and interesting things the posters here come up with. It's a fun group.
Be well.
Not surprised Jon thinks she bribes the kids. Pretty obvious. " Hey kids, if you want to stay at your school, live in this nice house, travel and have tons of clothes and toys, you gotta film". I hope People gets plenty of blowback about featuring the witch for the zillionth time on their cover.
Hey all, it's been a long time since I posted. Just saw Jon on Wendy Williams. He said Liz couldn't make it, because she is sick. He said he now has a new house in addition the the other one, which is only 4 miles from Kate. Wendy gave him plenty of opportunity to 'bash' Kate, but he didn't. Just told the truth. He did a good job. I loved the comment that Tony D had nothing nice to say about Kate...haha
If there's not a carrot dangling in front of Kate, she never follows through.
BTW, when is her next marathon???
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lol...well, according to her blog, under News and Events, it's the rock and roll thing on December 4, 2012,
Coming out of Lurk-ville. Tweet-le, I will miss your posts. But you need to do whats best for you. Please pop in once in a while when you feel up to it. All the best.
As for the shake up at People Magazine, I have been a subscriber for 30+ years (good grief, that's a long time). Over the past few years I have noticed that People is giving more space to "healthy" topics. One magazine was 20 pages of receipes and healthy stuff. I don't subscribe to People for my health, I'll go elsewhere for that topic (and do). Readers want to read about the stars. The fact that reality stars (those two words do not go together) are getting People covers shows (to me) that the magazine has lost its way. Over the years when a major Hollywood icon has died, they are not front and center on the cover, but regulated to a small picture on the side bar. I interpret this as the People demographics they are aiming for have never heard of these major stars. But for a person like Mandela not to have a cover shows how shallow People has become. I look forward to the People magazine shake up and hope they return to the days of old when those who were on the covers actually did something (other than have babies).
That is GREAT he got a new place 4 miles from Kate. That's a good step in co-parenting. Also these kids spend enough time in the car going back and forth to school, it's nice to only be 4 miles from daddy's.
Eight percent is still something, but that still leaves 92 percent for Kate to spend. That's outrageous. It should be the opposite, the bulk of it is saved and they only live on a tiny percentage.
These kids are going to have serious questions about where it all went in a few years. Kate thinks her kid borrowing her yoga pants is her biggest problem. Boy is she in for a rude awakening. I really hope Miss Francis reaches out to them when they are older should they choose to talk to someone. Her situation is as close to theirs as I've ever read about, because her mother was also so very much like Kate and worse. A true sociopath. So it's the child exploitation in addition to the mental illness Missy dealt with. Missy was able to estrange her and go on to be very successful, and any of the kids who feel negative about Kate in the future are going to need the support of people like her. My favorite part of the book is when Missy gives birth to her two boys, feels love like she never has before, and wonders how on earth her mother could do the evil things she did to her and still have the same emotions she did when she had her kids.
And of course Kate bribes them, thanks Captain Obvious Jon! They will have their opinions about THAT too when they are older. Bribing is fine when you are 13 but feels dirty when you are 30.
I will bet that Kate is seething after Jon's interview on Wendy. She seemed to really like Jon and he came across as genuine and speaking from the heart. I'm glad he discussed the child support issue and that it was mutually agreed upon by Kate, himself, and the Judge. Nice to know he has a new home 4 miles away from the kids. I also thought it was good that he gets along well with Liz's ex husband. All in all I thought it was a good interview.
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After a slow-coming realization that what I've been spending, to me, is an inordinate amount of time on a mediocre, going nowhere, reality TV personality, I need to move on for the sake of ME ME ME.
Happy Trails, all. You're a great group. :)"
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I think what's got Kate concerned these days is continuing to pull in substantial fees for just a few days work.
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You know I think that's the bottom line. It's not that working scares her. It just scares her to have to work every day like the mediocre. It scares her to only make 30 bucks an hour or less like the mediocre.
What she wants to do is go on half a dozen trips a year and be paid to do so, sit down for half a dozen interviews where she can get in her Jon bashing, do three or four photoshoots, and have that make her millions and call it a day until next year. She wants to work maybe 100 hours a year and have that cut it financially. You know who really is the spoiled brat here? KATE.
lol...well, according to her blog, under News and Events, it's the rock and roll thing on December 4, 2012,
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Oh, good. Now Kate only needs to grift for a Delorean and a flux capacitor.
Who wants to work with bratty teens?
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No one. They are a liability. Like we talked about earlier, Jaden Smith is a bratty teen and his career is stalled. He can only get projects with his dad now. He and his sister are not likable.
Networks like Disney want a teen who is sweet, innocent, bubbly, well spoken, cookie cutter. Parents don't want their teens admiring other bratty teens. They want to say why can't you be more like Hannah Montana (in her younger days at least!)?
Even if the girls had any talent, which I don't see that they do, that interview ruined any chance they have at proving they are good at PR. They're finished before they even started. It's not like celeb adults where a certain element of controversy might still work for you. That's not how it works in the teen entertainment business.
Tucker's Mom said... 158
WW show: crap! I think I missed a lot of it... but here goes:
Tony D. had nothing but bad to say about Kate, and WW knows this first hand because he was her teacher on DWTS. TD said it was all about "Queen Kate".
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Hee hee Well, a sheep must have watched it and not appreciated it because they already posted vitriol on the blog as "Auid":
http://www.wendyshow.com/2014/01/14/jon-gosselin-and-liz-jannetta/#.UtVlpdL2YjU
Eight percent is still something, but that still leaves 92 percent for Kate to spend. That's outrageous. It should be the opposite, the bulk of it is saved and they only live on a tiny percentage.
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It is outrages and wrong that KK gets all the money and the kids get only $1% each.
I hope you post Jon Wendy appearance I missed it and would like to see it.
So I'm guessing what ever Kate made of the new people rag mag that the twins only received 1% each maybe $4% each and KK got the rest.
Terri said... 168
Nice to know he has a new home 4 miles away from the kids.
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Awesome! He's out of the woods?
Wendy Williams even looked to the camera and said, "sorry Tony, but..." and then dished about how awful it was for Tony to work with her.
Looking back, I give Tony D. all the credit in the world. I think that not only did Tony suck it up and cater to Kate's whims and desires, but he not only put forth a positive face, he worked hard to adjust Kate's attitude as well.
I hope he got hazard pay.
Never mind I seeing Jon now and he's a much better interviewer then his former wife.
I bet the former wife is pissed that Jon is on all of the shows she was on now lets get him on the hallmark channel.-lol
I bet Kate envisions being the kids' manager if she is not already. Obviously, the People article was a failure for the girls but in Kate world, they were a smashing success. The girls sounded very immature and self-centered which goes against what a Kate said about them being wise beyond their years. She wants the world yo believe these girls are able to choices which falls in line with their alleged desire to film. I think this People article is a PRE-EMPTIVE strike to prove the girls know what they want and to squash Jon's claims the kids have issues. Now she can point to the People article before a judge and say the twins are mature enough to make up their own minds. But, IMO, the article proves the opposite. Besides, I think since Jon sees the tups more often, they fill him in on what's going on in Kate's household. It could be that Kate has left the raising of the tups to the twins and the tups are becoming estranged from Cara and Mady. Sibling rivalry is probably playing a big role in how the tups are treated by their big sisters who resented all the attention paid to the babies.
chefsummer said... 178
Never mind I seeing Jon now and he's a much better interviewer then his former wife.
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No hemming and hawing, no ums, no "honestly?".
Jon looked good, too. Yeah, he's gained a couple pounds, but he looks like Jon.
Kate barely resembles herself from a mere 5 years ago.
I wonder if KK had a heart-to-heart talk with the twins about why she choose Steve over their father. A paid employee no less.
And her vacation with Steve in Mex and Hilton Head? And adjoining rooms??
Come on people....she left that marriage first.
And as for Jo "dating", what was he suppose to do, cry in his milk and watch reruns?? When you date, you start by dating a variety of people. If he had a little fun....good for him!
I seriously doubt the 8 ever noticed one more or less person going in and out of their lives. That was normal for them.
Perhaps getting a home closer, and hopefully bigger, will allow him more time with ALL the kids.
How does he have two homes now..I thought the woods was a rental? If not I hope he is renting it out. Real Estate is a good investment over time.
I am completely convinced that Kate reads here. Just minutes after I post that she is probably seething about Jon's interview she tweets how wonderful her day is going. After days of silence, things that make you go hmmmmm.
(Leslie)
Kate says everybody that meets me loves me. Tony told WW that "he had NOTHING but bad things to say about Kate". She wanted to be treated like Prince Kate. I love that comment. LOVE>>>LOVE>>>LOVE it.
And Jon said he would fight it if Kate wanted to put her kids on another reality show. And Jon said he gets alongs great with Liz's ex-husband and so does Liz. They showed a clip of Liz saying that she really tried to get along with Kate but it didn't work out. Jon also said that he does not pay child support but it was agreed to by the Judge, Kate, and himself. I wish Jon would have given the amount in child support he did pay in 2009. And I wished he would have stated that the support for the kids come from filming proceeds. It just sounds bad to flatly state that he doesn't pay child support. WW said it was great that he broke the his TLC contract to prevent seeing his children's parents divorce unfold on reality TV. WW was really impressed by that and said so. Jon came across great. Liz was at home sick. He also said that he said he would not film again with his kids but he never said he wouldn't film again himself.
I'm confused about the percentages. 8% of what they earned goes into a trust? Is that 8% of total earnings or 8% of their share (which was what?). Then is their schooling coming out of that 8%? And that is their current schooling, not future college? Can anyone figure out the breakdown of this?
Happy Trails, all. You're a great group. :)
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Sorry to see you leave Tweetle.
Kate said she went back to bed this morning..... WHAT AN EFFING LIAR....she doesn't want anyone to think she saw Jon on the WW show. Shes too obvious....She probably recorded it... Ha
OMG! Can we say: Shit about to hit fan! Jon was excellent! Kate will be on the rampage! I'm sure she is going to find someway to get revenge on Jon. She is already brainwashing the kids. He confirmed what all of us have been saying for months, about bribing the kids. Kates CWS, appearance, she put the kids on TV behind his back, and Kate will continue to do that, and possibly get away with it. It sounds like Jon will be going to a lot of family court in the future. So the bird & 1d tickets were a bribe to do People. She is a vindictive tool.
Jon was very down to earth, very pleasing to listen to. Hardly any ummm. I love how Jon talked about Liz's ex, that they get along fine. So Jon is fixed, no more kids, if he does get married again. That is understandable. Jon made Kates both People cover articles(recent & one before), to be BS. He also made her out to be a liar. Wendy confirmed how Kate is by bringing up what Tony said about Kate. I loved what Jon said about the kids, not doing TV again, and that it is his choice to do TV for himself, with out the kids. Good move Jon.
Over all it was a wonderful interview.
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@Tr2v: Whoa! Because of @WendyWilliams, I really like Jon Gosselin! He seems like a good dude who handled his crazy ex bitch well. Mind blown.
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chefsummer said... 178
Never mind I seeing Jon now and he's a much better interviewer then his former wife.
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No hemming and hawing, no ums, no "honestly?".
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Surprisely not lol he was smooth when it can to talking unlike her former ex-wife.
@Kateplusmy8
2day I'm xtra grateful 4 the smallest things: 8 early am smiles&hugs,hot coffee on a rainyday, &a quick return 2bed b4 the day begins agn!
Must be nice, TFW, going back to bed after the kids are off to school. I guess she wanted to watch Jon on WW show from the comfort of her bed.
A sheeple comment from the WW site listed above. You've got to love them. Cut and pasted exactly as on the site. According to this sheeple Kate has a new husband. LOL!
Kate made the right choice getting rid of this immature,cry baby looser. John Gosslin's girl friend looks like a "full throttle saloon" patron. Kate has class and her choice of a new husband put her further in an upper class society. I turned you off Wendy when you had the pig on your show. Kate is a hard working, beautiful women and a good mother. SHAME ON YOU. I NEVER THOUGHT YOU WOULD STOOP SO LOW AND TO GIVE THIS 'HARD ON THE EYES" LOOSER. SEXUALLY? UGH! KUDO'S FOR KATE.for vomiting this looser out of her life
Oh, good. Now Kate only needs to grift for a Delorean and a flux capacitor.
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I was thinking more along the lines of an Edsel, or if she's really desperate, an AMC Gremlin.
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Kate's Tweet:2day I'm xtra grateful 4 the smallest things: 8 early am smiles&hugs,hot coffee on a rainyday, &a quick return 2bed b4 the day begins agn!
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She is so transparent. She knew Jon was going to be on WW show today. So she starts the day off with a very early tweet saying how appreciative she is of everything. Even the smallest things in life. And how loving she is as a parent kissing and hugging her smiling children. She said that in case Jon said anything bad about her. And then says she is going back to bed again in the morning. Right, Kate, I believe that fully. There is no chance in hell that you would watch with bated breath the interview that Jon gave this morning. She purposefully said she was going back to bed to imply she couldn't care less about him being on TV. Again, she is so transparent.
And as for Jo "dating", what was he suppose to do, cry in his milk and watch reruns?? When you date, you start by dating a variety of people. If he had a little fun....good for him!
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Yup, I dabbled a bit. Fits and starts. There were a few serious, longer-term relationships before DH.
For Jon, add into the mix that women, not all, but more than I'd like to think, (since I'm part of that club) will throw themselves at any penis with money and/or celebrity.
Sad, but true.
The girls sounded very immature and self-centered
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Just like mom Kate should be so proud.
@NakedArtisan: I like Jon Gosselin a lot #wendywilliams
@Tristanpz: You watching Jon Gosselin on Wendy? Great interview.
@KingOfHotTopics: @WendyWilliams This Jon Gosselin interview is GREAT!
@CortneySanders: @WendyWilliams I'm surprised by Jon Gosselin on your show today!! He's been portrayed completely different! #hottopics
localyocul said... 186
I'm confused about the percentages. 8% of what they earned goes into a trust? Is that 8% of total earnings or 8% of their share (which was what?). Then is their schooling coming out of that 8%? And that is their current schooling, not future college? Can anyone figure out the breakdown of this?
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Of course, I can't answer that, but I did get the sense that the kids have sufficient funds for school. Jon seemed very matter of fact about it.
Their needs for schooling (and maybe more) are taken care of.
I don't think the kids will see anywhere near the money that Kate hoards for herself, but I do think they've got trust funds out the wazoo.
Terri said... 168
I will bet that Kate is seething after Jon's interview on Wendy.
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I'll bet she's sitting at home right now cutting that oversized fanny pack WW gave her into little pieces.
She had her chance to tour the talkshows and she blew it. She had many opportunities to do a lot of things but eventually people get tired of listening to her whine about being broke, but showing no signs of it.
This whole conversation is awesome:
https://twitter.com/cortneysanders/status/423116918933839873
Cortney Sanders
@CortneySanders
@WendyWilliams I'm surprised by Jon Gosselin on your show today!! He's been portrayed completely different! #hottopics
N O E L @KingOfHotTopics 2h
@CortneySanders I love not to far from them and I'm finally happy he's being himself!
N O E L @KingOfHotTopics 2h
@CortneySanders I knew it was in him! Just waited for the real him to come OITNB
N O E L @KingOfHotTopics 2h
@CortneySanders *out
Cortney Sanders @CortneySanders 2h
@KingOfHotTopics I was impressed by his reasoning for leaving TLC. I didn't expect that at all!
N O E L @KingOfHotTopics 2h
@CortneySanders Yeah, Kate is a bitch. EVERYONE around here knows that.
Cortney Sanders @CortneySanders 2h
@KingOfHotTopics I definitely figured that from what I've seen on TV. But he's always been portrayed really douchey.
N O E L @KingOfHotTopics 2h
@CortneySanders Oh no he's a very nice guy!
Cortney Sanders @CortneySanders 2h
@KingOfHotTopics I'm getting that impression from the show for sure. Seems like a normal dude.
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