The same day that cover was released, inTouch released their own cover of Kate, "Destroyed by Greed." In their interview with Jon, in which he lashed out at Kate, Jon said Kate is "hurting our children."
And the battle rages on.
Wednesday, January 8, 2014
Dueling magazine covers
This week Kate and the twins are on the cover of People. The twins insist they are not damaged by reality T.V.
The same day that cover was released, inTouch released their own cover of Kate, "Destroyed by Greed." In their interview with Jon, in which he lashed out at Kate, Jon said Kate is "hurting our children."
And the battle rages on.
The same day that cover was released, inTouch released their own cover of Kate, "Destroyed by Greed." In their interview with Jon, in which he lashed out at Kate, Jon said Kate is "hurting our children."
And the battle rages on.
520 sediments (sic) from readers:
«Oldest ‹Older 1 – 200 of 520 Newer› Newest»Well, the In Touch cover title pretty much is validated by the People cover and article.
NJGal51 said...(109)
"Admin, I think their come to Jesus moment is going to be when they say "but we're THE Gosselin's" and the answer is either "Who?" or "So what!" They live a very sheltered life now...private school, maybe some school activities, home...lather, rinse repeat. There's a big, bad world outside of those gates and none of the kids are going to be prepared to face it if they still believe that they are special and deserve everything on a golden platter."
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I agree totally that being put on the cover of magazines perpetuates a sense of entitlement and self-importance. I think that may be more difficult for them to deal with than even their parents' antics in public.
The longer they remain in the spotlight the greater the discrepancy between their current perspective and the real world.
More's the pity if it goes beyond people not caring who the hell they are to that the general public becoming as annoyed and put off by the kids' themselves as they are of their parents.
Lindsay Lohan is an excellent case in point. Now that's she an adult, no one sympathizes with HOW she got where she is, they are simply disgusted by her behaviour and have no problem criticizing HER.
Just when I thought I couldn't be more disgusted by Kate's exploitation of her children she goes and ups the ante.
The woman is a social pariah and a nutcase and sadly, it's her children that will pay the biggest price for her lack of insight and awareness.
ROL has now picked up the story, and refers to part of the article where M&C talk about Jon's dating habits.
"Regarding Jon’s serial dating during that frame, Mady said “the stuff I remember now is stuff that I didn’t really see anything wrong with that the time … but now that I look back, I can see all without really wasn’t a good thing.
“Like girlfriends, lots of girlfriends. Like, maybe it wasn’t so normal to have someone new, like, every week.”
Cara joked, “Every day, every minute, every second!”
Like I said, it seems this article was written right after Kate dropped the lawsuit. She knew didn't have a chance in hell to get back at Jon using the lawsuit, so instead she got her daughters to do it for her.
Just when I think Kate couldn't get any more despicable, she proves me wrong. Bad enough she uses her children to further her "career", now she's using them to trash their own father.
http://radaronline.com/2014/01/kate-gosselin-jon-twins-mom-annoying-not-messed-up-dad-dating-habits/
Agree with what Winsome said in the other thread about what do you EXPECT the kids to say then go to school the next day? They're damaged, then go to school? LOL.
To add to that, it would be the rare 13 year old who would be able to recognize and then accept that they are damaged. They're too young and the don't know anything DIFFERENT. If the kids do feel damaged from their upbringing, it will likely be many years from now and after much therapy that they are able to even say that. Until then of course anyone is going to say me, no there is nothing wrong with me how dare you suggest that!
Denial is very common and normal. Who wants to admit something is wrong? And what's more I wouldn't expect them to recognize and accept any damage right now. That is going to need to happen later once they are out of the house. Right now they're just going to have to go on with life and focus on school and friends. It's not time yet to process their childhoods. It's not time yet to lay it all out from A to Z to a therapist. Their childhoods aren't even over yet.
What I love too though is if Jon is soooo bad how come the twins are doing so great? Surely having such a deadbeat father would mean they would be affected somehow right? You can't have it both ways.
My head hurts. This is just an awful war, but it still points more to Kate's absolute obsession with fame and anger about the divorce which did not give her the media career she was sure would follow. Apparently she still hates her ex more than she cares about the well being of their children. This magazine cover is disgusting, and certainly points out how little she cares about their privacy. Why bother sending them to a private school if you are going to do this? She has absolutely no scruples, no shame and frankly, no career will come from this. Think her big plan to stick it to the ex had also backfired. Again.
Cara Gosselin sounded like an entitled, snotty little brat in that quote from People magazine.
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Of course the girls claim they are not damaged..did anyone expect them to say they are damaged, and then go to school the next day?
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That's the absurdity of it, what else WOULD they say? It's almost laughable, if it weren't so disgusting.
I didn’t really see anything wrong with that the time … but now that I look back, I can see all without really wasn’t a good thing.
“Like girlfriends, lots of girlfriends. Like, maybe it wasn’t so normal to have someone new, like, every week.”
Cara joked, “Every day, every minute, every second!”
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All right, Kate is feeding that to them and re-writing history. There was never a new girlfriend every second or even every week. There was a brief period where he was dating. I can rattle off all the dates right now and it's what, six or seven? One of them Jon maintains was just a FRIEND. After that, there were two serious relationships in over three years, Ellen and then Liz. Kate, you're so transparent.
And how deplorable for People to talk to them about that.
Look at the other "stars" on the People cover...Demi Moore? Kesha's eating disorder has been news for several weeks...People really is scraping the bottom for news these days.
careful Admin.....when TFW reads here, she will be twittering how the girls no longer see Jon on visitation because they WERE being damaged by Jon and how perfect their life is with her. It's so sad to me how those girls are getting sucked into her narcissistic, "we won't survive without tv...so HELP me girls and say this in the interview...because if you don't, we won't get a tv show and then we will lose the house and you won't get to do anything FUN anymore". Those kids are going to be so messed up. I am thankful it was just another stupid magazine article and NOT a dating show. And the saga continues......I wish Robert would give us an update!
(Leslie)
Well, we all know now that the "little 6" will definitely read and believe everything their sisters and mother say in this article. After all, in their immature 9 year brains, if they are on a national publication cover then what is said has to be true. I guarantee you the twins will be watching, with or without permission the entire CT series. More amno for Kate to turn them against Jon. I agree the hate she has for Jon is overwhelming. I hope the public really turns against her for this article.
How does this woman continually get cover after cover of People magazine. So what if that woman Kate likes her is a managing editor. I am sure she doesn't call all the shots. Kate is a nobody now. I am shock that here she is on the cover again. And somewhere I read that the cover garnered a $75,000 fee. You know they don't pay for their articles but they sure as heck pay for photo licensing fee. And I am sure Kate is going to funnel some of that money to the kids for the pay off.
When they this magazine come out. Admin. can someone please just re-type the article here. I mean what is the worse that could happen. People will tell you to remove it. Or if not, please let someone do a paragraph by paragraph summary. I will want to know how bad she is brainwashing her teens.
Can someone give a paragraph by paragraph summary of Jon's article.
I'm gobsmacked by this. Using children -- especially ones at such a vulnerable age -- sickens me. An engraved invitation for people to comment online, for posterity, on the physical appearance and emotional development of your young teenage daughters, TFW? Deplorable, even by your sub-zero standards.
And if anyone doubts that TFW offers bribes for her children...she admitted this on J&K+8. I think it was during a photo shoot, when the tups were pretty small, and they'd been given some kind of backpacks filled with goodies. And TFW said something like, we always give them bribes for doing these things. Back then I was still a fan, but the word "bribe" was a red flag for me. Not "rewards," or "treats," but "bribes." But, I thought this was all fun fun fun? Kids playing and doing everyday things while the cameras rolled? Bribes are a form
of compensation for a loss or effort...very different from rewards.
What a sickening development.
careful Admin.....when TFW reads here, she will be twittering how the girls no longer see Jon on visitation because they WERE being damaged by Jon and how perfect their life is with her.
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Yep, too bad there were sightings of all eight of them with Jon over Christmas. That ruined that little spin.
Wow, someone's PR machine is in overdrive. Two back to back stories about the Gosselin's on ROL.
Who knew they had, unfortunately, such staying power? Those kids may think they are not damaged now, but like Admin said, give it a couple years kids.
When you grow up and realize that so few parents would even contemplate using their kids the way your parents have used you, you'll probably notice that perhaps you have a couple of issues.
And their names are Jon and Kate.
One of the comments compares Kate to Kris Jenner, selling her children. At this point, sadly, I tend to agree.
To add to that, it would be the rare 13 year old who would be able to recognize and then accept that they are damaged. They're too young and the don't know anything DIFFERENT.
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Absolutely! and what a dunce tfw and coyne are to even publish something so blatantly obvious. Those who have not followed this witch for years will come to the conclusion that she knows NOTHING about kids and parenting. Those of us who know her and her kind see proof positive that she puts HER OWN words and agenda into their mouths. They have always been and continue to be the means to an end for her.
Right now they're just going to have to go on with life and focus on school and friends. It's not time yet to process their childhoods. It's not time yet to lay it all out from A to Z to a therapist. Their childhoods aren't even over yet.
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amen to that
(Leslie)
I just thought about Kate giving that wonderful sermon on Hallmark show about how to raise kids going through a divorce. Everyone she said on that show was like she was quoting the highlights from a book on all the right things to say and do.
But we all know that Kate did not and does not follow any of that advice. Hence, this article in People magazine. Again, I hope the public is outraged at Kate and disgusted with her for pitting her young teens against their father.
The mere fact that these girls are on the cover of this magazine and talking about these issues has affected them and they will not understand that until later in life....Kate has not made a good choice for them to do this. I just am flabbergasted at the lack of insight she has to her life and her childrens...
What I love too though is if Jon is soooo bad how come the twins are doing so great? Surely having such a deadbeat father would mean they would be affected somehow right? You can't have it both ways.
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Because she's the only parent. He's some random guy they visit every so often
(Leslie)
Admin. where did you see that quote from comment #2. Do you already have the magazine?
Like girlfriends, lots of girlfriends. Like, maybe it wasn’t so normal to have someone new, like, every week.”
Cara joked, “Every day, every minute, every second!”
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You know, why do I picture a little pow-wow with the twins and their "mother" making fun of Jon? This is her idea of "bonding"
I guess they have finally figured out that these types of articles are the only way to keep relevant... is this how they plan to support themselves? They are like pigs at the trough.
BTW, the People Mag said that the pictures were taken 11/23.
Admin said....
What I love too though is if Jon is soooo bad how come the twins are doing so great? Surely having such a deadbeat father would mean they would be affected somehow right? You can't have it both ways.
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Because Kate is a super-mom!
All right, Kate is feeding that to them and re-writing history. There was never a new girlfriend every second or even every week.
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This is a ploy you might see 14 or 15-year old school girls using to make themselves more popular among their peers. Not mothers.
When is her book on Parental Alienation coming out? She can finally write about something she's good at.
@Kateplusmy8: Shoka's not happy staying indoors d/t extreme cold temps!Prob solved:Got heated dog bed 4 pampered pup so he can patrol his land a lil more!
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Wth is she talking about? In the epi they brought him back she said he would be an outdoor dog with a heated dog bed/house. Heated doghouse or not you don't leave a dog outside in these frigid temps!
How would sheep handle it if Jon allowed an interview with twins on whether they preferred Steve in their live to Jon.
And what they would say when they find out Krazy threw out Jon went he asked her to get rid of the bodyguard...
Does their mother say she's damaged? (shrugs) 'Nuff said.
PJ
Will Coyne be around and ready to interview the kids and publish the headline "We ARE damaged" in a few years?
(Leslie)
I absolutely see in the very near future that the Gosselin kids--who will all be teens a few years--will embark on their own reality TV series. Some may be bit behind players and others will be forefront stars. But with Mady leading the way and the example both their parents have set it will happen. I predict the Gosselin teens will have their own reality show. By then the Kardashians will be old tired news and someone will have to replace them. This cover is just the tip of the iceberg. It may very well be on E!
Vanessa said... 22
Like girlfriends, lots of girlfriends. Like, maybe it wasn’t so normal to have someone new, like, every week.”
Cara joked, “Every day, every minute, every second!”
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You know, why do I picture a little pow-wow with the twins and their "mother" making fun of Jon? This is her idea of "bonding"
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Exactly what I think too, Vanessa. Kate invites them into her bedroom for sleepovers like they are her new bffs and then goes to work on their heads. The woman is a sick, twisted, immature idiot.
(Leslie)
Kate just tweeted: Shoka's not happy staying indoors d/t extreme cold temps!Prob solved:Got heated dog bed 4 pampered pup so he can patrol his land a lil more!
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Just like all the very smart peple here knew for years. She does keep Shoka outside in freezing cold weather..
Kate is a twit said...(3)
ROL has now picked up the story, and refers to part of the article where M&C talk about Jon's dating habits.
"Regarding Jon’s serial dating during that frame, Mady said “the stuff I remember now is stuff that I didn’t really see anything wrong with that the time … but now that I look back, I can see all without really wasn’t a good thing."
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Interesting, I wonder if in a few years she'll have the same "wisdom" about being so heavily exploited by her mother?
When is her book on Parental Alienation coming out? She can finally write about something she's good at.
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yeah, she WROTE the book
And what's next, pimping them out with her on the talk show circuit? Oh forgot, the talk shows are not interested in her, only her buddy Kate Coyne, who is fighting with Milo for space up her a*#, seems to think her relevant and interesting. Image teachers and parents at school are rolling their eyes, again.
Don't forget that all of the kids are having memories implanted via watching the show DVDs every night. They are seeing the edited version of the 2 overwhelmed, plucky parents that laughed and loved and bickered. And, most likely, they believe that it ended because of their father's infidelity. That is the timeline of the show. I honestly doubt that they know the timeline , I.e., that the marriage was over before his dating began.
However, that "brief" period of his "dating" is extremely damaging to children's perception of relationships, and their own relationship with each parent. Kids don't get over or move on from it--it will continue to affect them throughout their lives.
Will the twins get their own "My Dad is a Douchebag" media tour? Or will producers now be knocking down the Gosselin Mansion door to get the twins their own reality show?
Honest to God, I woke up today and found myself in Bizarro World again. I can't get this sick ploy of hers out of my head now, and any doubts I had about Jon with this CT stunt just went out the window. Kate wins hands down in the Idiot Parent contest. Again.
Mady said “the stuff I remember now is stuff that I didn’t really see anything wrong with that the time … but now that I look back, I can see all without really wasn’t a good thing.
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How very, very telling. Mady did not see anything wrong with what Jon was doing at the time. Until...uummmm....this below quote:
“Cara listening, Mady and I talking – it helped the three of us get through the ugliness. Things that happened with my divorce were hurtful, and there were many tears, but we got through it. They really are trying to work with me even now, when they have emotional
moments.”
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Just like we all knew. Yeah, Kate "helped" them through the divorce. No, she brainwashed them through it. And she went and cried and spilled out every little detail to her children during the divorce. The reason they "see" it was wrong what Jon was doing back then is because Kate told them it was wrong. They admit they didn't see anything wrong at the time.
And let's not forget that the twins are at the age where, in many divorce situations, the teens tend to swing their parental favoritism toward the parent offering the better ride. If Kate's fame and money take a downward spiral, watch them jump ship to Dad faster than you can blink.
this is so sad, it is not even worth making a joke....
(Leslie)
Kate just tweeted: Shoka's not happy staying indoors d/t extreme cold temps!Prob solved:Got heated dog bed 4 pampered pup so he can patrol his land a lil more!
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Just like all the very smart peple here knew for years. She does keep Shoka outside in freezing cold weather..
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She is beyond cruel. Just because ice runs through her veins doesn't mean Shoka can't feel the cold. Evil witch.
Kate feels entitled...Of course she is going to pass on those same "values" to her children. Those children, especially in their teen years, are in for a long, hard ride with their "mother".
Have you been googling yourself today TFW? Have you checked in here yet? Are you thrilled with the response your getting? Are you blocking blocking blocking? Busy busy busy!
Honest to God, I woke up today and found myself in Bizarro World again. I can't get this sick ploy of hers out of my head now, and any doubts I had about Jon with this CT stunt just went out the window. Kate wins hands down in the Idiot Parent contest. Again.
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ditto
SO! this is Kates good things are happening this week! Yeah, let's exploit the twins, cause the 6 pk are not interesting anymore. And I see Kates game: Jon took the wind from Kate, what twice now or is it 3 times. 1 with his interview on the View and mag interview, took the wind out of Kates cookbook tour, 2 the law suit, Kate filed, that backfired, with Jon doing an interview, Kates law suit made her look bad & stupid 3 Jon doing that therapy show & another interview, Kate counters with some stupid contest & now this article in People yet again, this time using the twins. Gee Kate who is leaking info and stories to the media, NOT JON! You Kate and your co-horts/fans/lackeys/so-call friends(Jamie, Deanna: hired help). This is Kate exploiting her kids to the hilt. Kate: I never exploit my kids, really, what do you call this interview for People, small talk at home on the couch.
Just saw Hoda & KathieLee, west coast time. No love for Kate there, they seemed uncomfortable with talking about her, more like a guess we should since it is breaking gossip this am. Don't think they are eager to talk to her about any of this on their show.
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this is so sad, it is not even worth making a joke....
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I agree. FUBAR. Absoluletly FUBAR.
And to think this THIS was her little tease on twitter. So smug and proud
Oh, one more thing. Kate has not publicized this People yet, she is trying to throw it off by talking about the dog. I do believe Kate will put those kids back on TV, even if she goes against the court & Jon. Then she will say I forgot crap. She already did it with People interviews and CWS, she will do it again. Kate is very desperate, to stay in the media. SHAME ON YOU KATE!
Sorry If I offended anyone...But really? I get why the sheeple watch anything and everything she is on....They are fans. We are not,but yet,we watch everything. WHY???
As for Jon being on this show....so what? You feel bad for the kids? Really? Jon making money off a show ...weather its real or not...again SO WHAT!!!! He got on a show w/o using the kids....if you give a shit...watch...if you dont...then don't watch.
Unless you have been in his shoes....used and abused for 10 years...How can you judge him?
I agree with Starzz, usually do! I d often wondered why I follow TFW..I think it's because I hate her, her lies, her self absorption, her manipulation. I hate her ability to be so tenacious, also. And always, always using the kids...for everything
This most recent People debacle is beyond the pale. And very damaging to those kids.
She cares not for the: she spawned them for one reason only, HER FAME. She has, and continues to damage them.
“Cara listening, Mady and I talking – it helped the three of us get through the ugliness. Things that happened with my divorce were hurtful, and there were many tears, but we got through it. They really are trying to work with me even now, when they have emotional moments.”
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Well now here's a different tune she's now singing.
What happened to her standard, "the kids are well adjusted, normal, happy, polite, blah, blah, blah," spiel?
She is beyond cruel. Just because ice runs through her veins doesn't mean Shoka can't feel the cold. Evil witch.
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Robert got it right in her book. She doesn't give a flying fat's rear end about the dog. I don't care if the dog has a heated doghouse or if he likes to be outside to roam. There is no excuse that anyone can give to allow a family pet to be outside in this weather. My strays are still inside, even though it warmed up to a balmy 18, and are staying inside until tomorrow. They did enjoy the Johnny Mathis CDs last night, though. Tonight it's Barry Manilow.
Update on cats and questions answered. They are two big, beautiful girls, no names, but they answer to "Hi guys." I could call them Laverne and Shirley! We could have a naming not-a-contest here with the winner receiving a rumspringa of the month prize, with Auntie's Saint Bernard delivering a keg at the beginning of each month. The cats are both long-haired kitties...very long hair, a grooming nightmare. I brushed each one of them out this morning. No fleas found.
Kate and the cover. She will never give up. Never. She's probably giddy with excitement, laughing hysterically over this. It's just a big finger at Jon, getting even, saying that she can do anything she wants with the kids and there's not a darn thing he can do about it. She needs more than intensive psychiatric help. How many posts have we had here...stories from child actors now grown up who had no idea of the effect the whole thing had on them until they were young adults? The twins, at 13, are not able to grasp this right now, but they will.
I honestly doubt that they know the timeline , I.e., that the marriage was over before his dating began.
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Funny, but Jon contradicts that timeline. He talks about going out without the intention of coming home, before his marriage was over, in his wonderful Philly Mag interview.
"'January 17th, 2009,' he says, somberly. 'That’s the first time I went out knowing full well that I wasn’t coming home. I got home at four in the morning. And [Kate] said nothing. And then I knew it was over.'"
I had a subscription to People for many years. They still send me subscription renewal incentives constantly through the years, even though I haven't renewed a subscription to this magazine for several years. I don't purchase the magazine or have a subscription because of the Gosselins' cover appearance on the new cover, especially at this point in their lives'. This just doesn't make me want to renew my long standing subscription and has opened my eyes as to the waste of money this magazine has become, even with the heavily discounted subscription price. The magazine was more than just a fabricated gossip magazine back in the day with minimal else showcased. It featured real stories of non celebrities rejoicing real triumphs, heart aches and much more. The magazine is barely a skeleton of what it used to be. I always considered the magazine to be a a step above other magazines of this genre, but I don't anymore.
Now, the article made it to Celeb Baby Scoop. More quotes from rag mag, something like Kate wishes they were more innocent ! I could tear my hair out.
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I honestly doubt that they know the timeline , I.e., that the marriage was over before his dating began.
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Funny, but Jon contradicts that timeline. He talks about going out without the intention of coming home, before his marriage was over, in his wonderful Philly Mag interview.
"'January 17th, 2009,' he says, somberly. 'That’s the first time I went out knowing full well that I wasn’t coming home. I got home at four in the morning. And [Kate] said nothing. And then I knew it was over.'"
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I caught that too
Here's a comment under the Radar article:
I have spent time with these kids and will absolutely agree the older 2 are damaged ..they hold resentments and have been used by Kate to hurt Jon . He didn't have girls everyday-In fact his one relationship with someone they actually liked and lasted almost 2yrs. Mady is disrespectful and outspoken to the point she's rude. Cara def more quiet and respectful .the younger 6 r just all over the place. Kate is a dictator and will do anything to stay relevant including use these children for interviews .its pathetic.
Kate opened the twins up to this type of commentary. And if this poster is accurate, Kate's repurcussions from being a parental alienator will haunt through some very difficult teen years with all of those kids.
Seriously, when is this all going to end? One jab done by Kate, another done by Jon in retaliation. Kate comes back swinging and Jon takes another swing. It's sick and disgusting and I'm just tired of it all.
~LAP
Regarding Jon’s serial dating during that frame, Mady said “the stuff I remember now is stuff that I didn’t really see anything wrong with that the time … but now that I look back, I can see all without really wasn’t a good thing.
“Like girlfriends, lots of girlfriends. Like, maybe it wasn’t so normal to have someone new, like, every week.”
Cara joked, “Every day, every minute, every second!”
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I'm so sad to see the girls talking about their dad this way.
I truly wish the court could step in and order these two to just knock it off. No more using the children for their own selfish reasons. Also order no more tweeting about their every move. That would end this nonsense once and for all, because that is all they have to keep them in the news anymore. I feel so bad for those kids.
Over in TFW's - The thing is, it's not even a heated dog house, it's a heated dog bed. What about his ears? They'll get frostbitten! I wish she would be forced to sleep out there on a heated mattress and see how long she'd last. I hope someone tweets Pamela Anderson about Kate's cruelty to animals and all other living things.
Great names for your cats, btw! My submission for naming not-a-contest: Lucy and Ethel.
Oh... its just a matter of time before the twins classmates do a theatrical interpretive reading of their interview at the lunch table. It's ridiculous to allow them to be in a magazine.
Today on Howard Stern actor Zachary Quinto (Saylar from TV show Heroes and Spock in 2009 movie Star Trek) said of reality TV stars..."they are sacrificing their integrity, their privacy and their lives to be famous." No truer words were ever spoken. I wish that I'd heard the whole interview. Maybe I'll be able to catch in on a replay. They weren't specifically talking about TFW (I think the Kardashians and some contestant on the Bachelor were being discussed) but it describes her to a T.
(Leslie)
OrangeCrusher what did they say about Kate on their Today Show?
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I always considered the magazine to be a a step above other magazines of this genre, but I don't anymore.
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You have Kate Coyne to thank for that.
I've said this before, you could take the head of a pig and photoshop it onto Coyne's shoulders and you wouldn't even notice the difference between the two faces.
Who exactly told Mady, "People think we're supposed to be messed up...."? I doubt very much strangers have approached her and made this comment.
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OK, let me try again with mt post. My iPad locked up so forgive me if this goes through twice.
Zachary Quinto (Spock in 2009 Star Trek and Saylar on Heroes) was on Howard stern today and they started to discuss reality TV. Of reality TV stars Zachary said "They are sacrificing their integrity, their privacy and their lives to be famous." I think at the time they were discussing the Kardashians and one of the Bachelor contestants but the description fits TFW to a T. She will do anything and use anyone to remain relevant.
As we speak, Milo is planning her trip to the store to get 50, count 'em, 50 copies of the magazine. She will then spend a day cutting out pictures and wallpapering the inside of her car. I imagine all of the rooms in her house already are covered with pictures of Kate, and she's run out of rooms. Next up...LOM's cycle.
I didn't read the article and have no plans to do so. That quote from one of the twins about her dad's girlfriends did it for me. Kids say things to be cute and funny. However, Kate was the parent present there and she did nothing to stop it. She could have easily said, wait, don't print that, but she didn't. What parent in their right mind would allow a child to throw their father under the bus like that? She's even more disgusting than I imagined. That woman needs to run, not walk, to a mental health professional. She's not only hell bent on revenge against Jon, but she's nuts.
This story is being picked up by several media outlets, and more about what the twins had to say is coming to light. This is from an article from USAToday.
"Kate's take on them and all they've been through? "They're figuring out stuff on their own."
One thing the girls know for sure is that they are more than ready to return to TV. "We'd love to do it again," says Cara. "We miss the crew, the people we saw everyday. It was fun."
And before the interview is over, Cara admits, "Honestly? Our mom is the best."
This interview has Kate written all over it, with the twins just repeating what Kate has been saying all along. Sounds like they've been brainwashed to mimic Kate, even to the point of using "Honestly". I doubt very much that "they're figuring stuff out all on their own". The only thing that they have "figured out" is to do as Mommy says or there will be hell to pay.
And from the Daily Mail:
"But the split and Jon's nasty comments aren't the hardest thing the twins have had to deal with. Suddenly getting six siblings was much more traumatic, they insisted.
'I love them but... yeesh,' said Mady said, who also noted she will not have more than two children when she is older.
Mady said she wanted to be an actress one day whereas Cara is interested in being a doctor.
The girls would also not mind doing reality TV again. 'We miss the crew, the people we saw every day,' said Cara. 'We'd love to do it again.'
Toward the end of the interview, when mom Kate was not near them, they took on a sweeter tone.
'Our mom is the best,' said Cara. 'She wants us to have everything, and she fights for that, and I love her for it.'
This morning on Hoda and Kathy Lee the article was discussed...or should I say disgusted. Both hosts said how horrible Kate is to brainwash the girls. Kate said in the article that at the time of the divorce she told the girls it was just her and them against the world. They were 9 years old at the time. She is beyond despicable.
I have to say, just the thought that the twins think that this is "normal", to be on the cover of a tabloid, is evidence enough to me that they are NOT normal and will have some lengthy consultations with a therapist in their futures.
Marie
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 5h
@SavGuercio sorry. Like my kids, I try hard to answer all requests :)
'Our mom is the best,' said Cara. 'She wants us to have everything, and she fights for that, and I love her for it.'
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Nope. No spoiling, entitlement issues going on there. Sheeesh
There are no words strong enough to adequately express how deplorable this woman is.
And now the gloves are off. Mady and Cara will be subjected to some of the most despicable and foul comments imaginable. Their own mother willingly and enthusiastically did this to them.
Utterly deplorable.
Auntie Ann,
The same goes for tfw.
As far as the timeline, I don't think he was with anyone on that particular night. He just "went out" and didn't come home. Who says he was with a woman? And he was probably already living over the garage, the kids weren't allowed in the bitch's lair under threat of severe punishment.
I'm done with this whole mess. Those two pigs are no longer going to take precious time out of my day, my life, my normal existence. They can both go to He**. I love this blog but it is becoming an obsession...the desire to see TFW taken down. And my time is too precious. There is a lesson to be learned in all of this....evil exists in the world and sometimes the justice just isn't served. So to hell with them both...I'm gonna spend my time on more wholesome, positive activities. It's been nice...see you all..
'Our mom is the best,' said Cara. 'She wants us to have everything, and she fights for that, and I love her for it.'
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Interesting choice of words.
"She wants us to have everything, and she fights for that..."
Why is she fighting for that rather than working for that?
PatK said... 39
And let's not forget that the twins are at the age where, in many divorce situations, the teens tend to swing their parental favoritism toward the parent offering the better ride. If Kate's fame and money take a downward spiral, watch them jump ship to Dad faster than you can blink
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I saw this quote on the Daily Mail website:
'Our mom is the best,' said Cara. 'She wants us to have everything, and she fights for that, and I love her for it.'
It's exactly what you said--the parent offering the better ride. Kate wants them to have everything. And, apparently, having things is what motivates these kids. I aheve no doubt that Zorro and 1D tickets--material things--were what Kate used to bribe the girls into doing this interview
Another disturbing quote:
The girls would also not mind doing reality TV again. 'We miss the crew, the people we saw every day,' said Cara. 'We'd love to do it again.'
The crew left in August of 2011. Almost 2 1/2 years ago, and they STILL miss them? But they don't mention missing their dad, their grandparents, friends, relatives, Jodi and Kevin and their cousins who lived just around the corner from them for years. Now, that is truly sad. They don't miss the people who have real bonds to them, they don't miss lost friends or family, they miss the camera crew who were there to do a job and to help exploit them.
A couple thoughts:
1) While we realize it wasn't a new girlfriend every other day, that doesn't mean it didn't feel that way to Cara and Mady. They were 9 at the time and they went from mom and dad being together to dad and mom not being together and dad suddenly dating other women. I can't believe that there wasn't some divorce angst on their part.
And while it wasn't a new girlfriend "every minute, every second", he did date five women in the course of what? A year? There was the school teacher, then Hailey and while he was with Hailey there was Stephanie Santorro (the babysitter) and Kate Major, and after Hailey there was the rich girl with the condo in Park City. She was followed a few months later by Ellen Ross, who was a steady girlfriend for about a year and then Liz Janetta (and we don't know who he dated between Ellen and Liz).
We know for sure, based on Jon's comments, that the kids had met Hailey and Stephanie, and I'm sure they heard their mom rant about the rest.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that I can understand how Mady and Cara feel about the women Jon has dated revolving in and out of their lives and while I'm sure loyalty to their mom is also a factor, I think they were expressing their own (IMO quite valid) feelings as well.
This is why it pisses me off that Kate made them do this interview (to be fair, yes, while it is possible they may have asked to do it but I don't find it very probable). These are their private feelings and the world did not need to read about them in a gossip magazine.
These children deserved better parents then they got, unfortunately, and frankly both Jon and Kate need to grow up and not use their kids to stay relevant.
2) I wonder if the article wasn't done in November as a response to his comments on Oprah's show and People chose not to run it until CT began airing, knowing it would likely generate more sales at that point.
This is ten times worse than her "my kids want to spend Christmas with ME! article. She must have been brainwashing them for years. I bet she cried to them the personal details of the divorce, etc. (truth or not). It makes me sad to think how they used to adore Jon and now they riducule him.
Kate is no stranger to the vitriolic comments these articles incite. She of all people should know you shouldn't create an environment where that will happen to the kids.
'She wants us to have everything, and she fights for that, and I love her for it.'
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Wow. Everything? On a golden platter too, I'll bet. Kate is teaching her kids to cut down anyone and anything that stands in the way of getting what they want.
Way to go Herr Kate. You miserable destroyer of lives.
How can a 13 yr. old, who has spent half her life in front of cameras, know if she has been "damaged"?
bm
Excellent point Marie 72
"The girls would also not mind doing reality TV again. 'We miss the crew, the people we saw every day,' said Cara. 'We'd love to do it again.' "
Frankly, I find this rather hard to believe, given the attitude, looks and posture we saw, and continue to see, whenever a film crew gets close to her. A real pot of crock IMO. What I do think is more real is that the twins would probably be happy if the six pack went to live with Dad and they had Kate and the big house all to themselves. They were displaced by the new children, cut off from their grandparents and other family support and tossed into the tv cesspool. And now their mother has alienated them from their father, curries their favor and treats them like her bff's. Entitlement? Oh sure, big time. Poor little boys.
You know it's almost as if this was Kate speaking and People attributed the comments to Mady and Cara. However, it is so disturbing that they are spewing the same nonsense as their Mother. I just have no words.
"Wanting the best" "Fight for it"
Etc.
Everything tfw has said. They really can't be blamed, it's what they've learned. They have an a**hole mother, she made her kids into the same. Adult a-holes have to come from somewhere.
I haven't felt this heartsick in awhile. Good Lord.
So the twins discussed their father's string of girlfriends, but nothing was said about Kate parading around with a married bodyguard? Why the heck not? Let's level the playing field. If you're going to interview these kids about what should be a private time in their lives (post-divorce), then let's ask them about how they feel about Uncle Steve and if you saw anything there. After all, why keep that under wraps? Fair is fair.
Using the kids to get back at Jon, and putting them on display by having them reveal things that should be private is the ultimate in exploitation. Having the film crew shoving cameras in their faces and filming the crap out of them now seems pale in comparison when you see now just how low this sorry excuse for a mother can actually go. She's out of her ever-lovin' mind.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that I can understand how Mady and Cara feel about the women Jon has dated revolving in and out of their lives and while I'm sure loyalty to their mom is also a factor, I think they were expressing their own (IMO quite valid) feelings as well.
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That was talked about on this blog also, about how his dating several women within a short period would affect the children. But, that being said, that should be private, not something talked about in a magazine by 13 year old children. Jon and Kate both should be held accountable for their actions, but having the children speak about it publicly is beyond the pale. It is the epitomy of being a bad parent to let this happen and to encourage it.
Marie
'Our mom is the best,' said Cara. 'She wants us to have everything, and she fights for that, and I love her for it.'
Spoiled, entitled little brats. You're proud of this Kate and put it out there for all the world to see? Kate is pushing for a show for them. The only problem is that none of them has any talent. Who wants to see kids always getting and never giving? Not me. And what network is going to foot the bill for elaborate trips? None. Kate seems to be raising spoiled, entitled little brats. I hope that the twins feel a moment of shame when they read what they said about their dad. Saying and seeing it in print are two different things.
Over in TFW's County:
I vote for Thelma and Louise for the kitties!
I' m thinking of changing my name to Bottom's Up, so apologies if this has been touched upon.
I subscribe but haven't seen this issue yet so haven't read the article.
It sounds like this is spin control and nothing less. Was this article about the twins or about how great their mom is?
And from the comments on revolving girlfriends? That has TFW written all over it. You just know she is the type of parent who bad mouth's the other parent.
Of course those girls see nothing wrong with the way they live.....now. But wait until it's gone, and the cuteness isn't what gets them through. They are ill prepared for what lies ahead.
They parroted exactly what Kate says. It's creepy.
If they miss the crew, they have iPhones. Pick them up, call or text the crew members. Invite them over to dinner or go out to see them sometime. You don't have to film in order to keep up the friendship. And if filming started up again it would probably be a whole new crew anyway because this is a fast business and people get tied down to other projects quick. It could easily be an all new crew and what's the point of that?
People leave jobs all the time, it doesn't mean if you made a good friend you can't keep up the relationship.
All that said I find it downright creepy a 13 year old would be this concerned about some 20 or 30 something crew member most of which were males. They need to make friends their own ages and forget the crew.
Also "everything" Cara? I'm very sorry that you feel that it's a good thing to have "everything." Very sorry.
They parroted exactly what Kate says. It's creepy.
If they miss the crew, they have iPhones. Pick them up, call or text the crew members. Invite them over to dinner or go out to see them sometime. You don't have to film in order to keep up the friendship. And if filming started up again it would probably be a whole new crew anyway because this is a fast business and people get tied down to other projects quick. It could easily be an all new crew and what's the point of that?
People leave jobs all the time, it doesn't mean if you made a good friend you can't keep up the relationship.
All that said I find it downright creepy a 13 year old would be this concerned about some 20 or 30 something crew member most of which were males. They need to make friends their own ages and forget the crew.
Also everything Cara? I'm very sorry you feel that having "everything" is something to be so highly valued.
From Jon:
"They have problems with wants and needs and manners and morals and what’s right and what’s wrong."
Well, let's see the twins love their mom because she fights to give them "everything". They bash their dad in a national magazine. Check. Check.
eonline has a story about Jon's article: Some excerpts:
""She uses them as her props," Jon, 36, says of Kate keeping their children in the public eye. "It's a problem for her that she can't afford our old lifestyle anymore. It's so unfair to them. I work really hard to keep my kids safe and then she just goes and tweets about them all the time. I don't have a Twitter anymore and even when I did, I never tweeted about my kids. I kept their lives private."
"I don't think being on TV is good for kids. A lot of them do not want to film and they come to me and tell me that," the restaurant waiter claims. "It's upsetting and I think it's embarrassing for them. They are enjoying having an ordinary childhood."
Also, some more quotes from Cara and Mady's article:
Despite her father's worries, Cara insists she's happy. "I feel like I've done a pretty good job at handling everything," she tells People. "People who think they know who we are, they don't really understand."
In fact, being the oldest of eight siblings has been more challenging for the twins than having their parents' divorce play out in the press. "Having six little kids show up all at once, that's the big deal in our life," Mady says. "And their messes, and their being annoying. I mean, I love them, but...yeesh."
In my opinion, BOTH of these parents are using their children as props to continue a war that should have ended 4 years ago. They both use their children as an excuse to attack the other parent. They talk about their children to make themselves look better. Sorry, Jon, you're just as bad as Kate in discussing your children in order to attack their mother. Their childhood is anything but "ordinary".
They both disgust me.
No offense to Mady and Cara but why should we care about your opinions/thoughts concerning your parents divorce? Kate has sunk to a new level of low, imo. NOW would be a good time for Robert to release his book if he intends to.
I went to the People site to see the cover, and didn't recognize those girls. I've seen heavy airbrushing, but that's ridiculous. The girls are naturally pretty and fresh, and in person look like 13-year-olds. I'm not sure what "look" they were going for there...possible models maybe, or prospective television stars, but on that cover they look much older than their years.
When Jon was gone the crew were the only ones that gave them richly needed attention. We saw that more and more as Kate+8 continued. Those kids were mere afterthoughts as she walked ahead of them without so much as a glance back and left the crew or nannies to do absolutely everything.
Kids comments in translation:
Dad's dating made mom mad and she says it's the reason we can't get a new show. Mom says if we can't get a new show, we'll have to give up our house, our dog, and our school. That's why we're doing this article - and also so mom can have her show and we can have other people around to run interference for us. We've had to take care of mom's emotional needs and those of our siblings for four years now, so we're a little resentful that dad left and put us in that position. Now excuse us, mom has some 1D tickets for us over there on that gold platter.
I agree orange. Did they quote the wrong twin because that sounds like something M would say, not C
How on earth would a kid know their parent was 'fighting for' things or for them unless they were told that? My mom did that for a while with us after our parents' bitter divorce (bitching about not getting enough support or our dad not seeing us) and it was very hurtful. We already knew he didn't see us enough; we didn't need to know he didn't care to pay for for our needs too, and that our mom was fighting on him on it. Kids should not know these things. I don't know what context Cara meant that, but it rubs me wrong. Any fighting should be kept between the parents. And the parents should not be seeking comfort from the kids.
FRP
Silimom #101 - Perfect translation.
bm
Kate's teaser was:
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8
I'm ready for bed... But wanted to tell you that good things are happening this week... Keep your eyes peeled..... #dontsayIdidntwarnyou
This is a GOOD thing? Is she totally off her rocker? If using your twin girls as your last ditch means to get back at your ex is a good thing, then I'd hate to see what a BAD thing would be.
She's crazy. Absolutely bonkers.
“Cara listening, Mady and I talking – it helped the three of us get through the ugliness. Things that happened with my divorce were hurtful, and there were many tears, but we got through it. They really are trying to work with me even now, when they have emotional
moments.”
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Am I understanding correctly that this is something TFW says in the article?
Holy shitballs!
What parent, grown-ass woman, professing being deserved of mother of the century does this to her children?
Divorce 101- you don't discuss with your children the intimacies of your divorce. You answer their questions as best you can without throwing blame.
You need to talk to someone? That's what friend's are for you POS!
Oh, right, you have none.
Then that's what hired lackeys are for.
Just when you think it can't get any worse................
Sometimes I wonder if the parents are working together to keep themselves in the public eye in order to generate income for the family. That's the only thing I can come up with as to why they would publicly fight about the well being of the children. Seriously, what other logical reason could they have for always regurgitating all of their private information to the public? Now Kate is using the children to do it. God, it's ugly. And the way the twins seem to think they are entitled and that the little kids disrupted their lives so, really makes me ill. Yuck. I would not want my children to think like this.
Marie
And those kids aren't allowed to breath without her permission and yet it's ok to let them be publically disrespectful to their father?? My heart goes out to Jon, he is what he is but to have that bitch turn them against him?
I' m thinking of changing my name to Bottom's Up, so apologies if this has been touched upon.
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I'm thinking of changing my name to that because these developments may drive me to drink...more. ;)
Next thing you know. . . .the twins will end up doing TV interviews to discuss how "normal" they are.
Marie
Jon's nasty comments? What about Kate's nasty comments? Start with mediocre and go from there. Why only mention dealing with Jon's nasty comments? They are both guilty of creating an absolute cesspool of bitter divorce hate, we can't be the only ones willing to acknowledge this. I detest the spin that somehow Jon is the root of the twins' turmoil. Like Kate is so innocent in this. They are both BOTH to blame and arguably Kate has said much more and much worse. Up until recently he was trying to say she was GOOD with the kids. The bottom line is two parents utterly failed at giving their kids a peaceful and amicable post divorce life and guess what People, it takes two to tango here. They should both be ashamed and both begging their kids for forgiveness, and both immediately enroll in some kind of parents with conflicts intensive therapy--enough is enough. This is not healthy or normal. It's not.
"But the split and Jon's nasty comments aren't the hardest thing the twins have had to deal with. Suddenly getting six siblings was much more traumatic, they insisted
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Has M held onto this resentment all these years? I mean we saw it on the show but come on! How well can she possible remember life before the tups? What were they, 4?
SMH said... 91
'Our mom is the best,' said Cara. 'She wants us to have everything, and she fights for that, and I love her for it.'
Spoiled, entitled little brats.
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Yes, let's keep insulting those children. That's what adults should do when 13 year-olds give interviews. It's "fair game."
You are assuming that she was talking about material things. By "everything" she may have meant a good education, money for college, a stable life, etc. Interpreting the comment in the worst possible light and then insulting the children serves what purpose, exactly? Oh, it makes Kate look bad. The end justifies the means I suppose.
I noticed it's pretty glaring they didn't say our mom is the best because she listens to us, spends time with us, has the warmest hugs, teaches me things, lets me be myself. That's what I said about my mom at that age. We didn't have stuff. But we had that.
Instead we love our mom because she's out there busting butt grifting for stuff. Sad, kids. Very sad. Stuff works now. It won't always be what you want though, I promise. When you realize you don't need stuff anymore what will be left?
Thought the same thing Admins - how sad that these girls only value their Mother because of the "stuff" she gives them.
"We miss the crew, the people we saw every day"
I would bet dollars to doughnuts that those kids wouldn't recognize the crew members if they fell over them today.
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'Our mom is the best,' said Cara. 'She wants us to have everything, and she fights for that, and I love her for it.'
It is so sadly telling that Cara said Kate wants them to "HAVE EVERYTHING," instead of that Kate wants "what is best for them."
Westcoastie. Thank you for expressing my thoughts so perfectly. What heavy duty, adult, distorted garbage is she unloading on those kids?
I know TFW coached the twins, but they don't come across as very likeable. They don't enjoy having brothers and sisters but miss the ever-changing crews in their faces? They do sound entitled and bratty and I very much hope they are not like that in real life.Wonder how Jon will take this. And they got $75,000? Or rather, mom did. I guess she can go and buy 'everything' for a while longer now.
The twins are starting to sound like they have Stockholm's syndrome.
#dontsayIdidntwarnyou
This is for Jon, not her adoring fans. He crossed HER line again, dared to get real lawyers and forced her to take her ludicrous lawsuit away. She is beyond help IMO. I would so love to see this parental alienation for the world to see have a day in court. How much lower can she go?
I guess no one has explained the sextuplets they seem to resent are the reason they are so rich.
I would be with you in that Sillimom except for Mady saying very clearly she thought nothing of it. Until later. That's a huge red flag that casual dating a child thought nothing of changed because someone, KATE, educated her there was a problem. Even so if it bothers her that much why hasn't Kate gotten her therapy? Please.
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You are assuming that she was talking about material things. By "everything" she may have meant a good education, money for college, a stable life, etc
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That would be nice if Cara meant that, but I think it would have been worded differently,like 'a well-balanced life with friends, school, family' for example. To a 13 year old 'everything' probably does mean material things.They wanted 1D tix, for example, top make their dreams come true, apparently, and we know TFW is materialistic so adding 2+2...but I get your point.Sadly I just don't agree.
Stop Trashing the Children said... 113
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I agree there should be no name calling of the kids. But TFW has made it clear she thinks her kids should have material things. "Life on a Golden Platter". She just tweeted today she tries to honor all requests of her kids.
On the camping trip, this same child threw a royal fit because she wanted HER way and TFW didn't want to hear it. She said just let her have her way it's easier that way. So even if she didn't just mean material things, it's just as bad. Kids have to learn they can't have EVERYTHING in life.
(Leslie) Comment #106
Exactly! And it struck me that Kate says, " They really are trying to work with me even now, when they have emotional moments.” Kate is their therapist. HA! ME, ME, ME. I hope Christina and her male co-host On Hallmark come across this article. Remember on Home and Garden Kate gave the perfect answer to how to raise kids through a divorce. It was like was was reading the bullet points from a divorce therapist on the proper things to say and do to help your children prosper through a bad divorce. And the male co-host seemed blown away by her wisdom and said so. We all knew Kate does the opposite of everything she purported. And this proves it.
Kate had and has much more time, access, money, drive, money, fame-whoring tendencies and media time than Jon has every had or will ever have. Therefore the kids will continue to be brainwashed by Kate for many years to come. As this article clearly says from Cara's own lips, "'Our mom is the best,' She wants us to have everything, and she fights for that, and I love her for it.' Of course what kid who was raise very entitled and rich isn't going to pick the parent that can give them everything on a gold platter. And it surprises me that Cara is the one who says she wants to film again. From seeing her on "Kate Plus 8" it looked like she did not like the cameras. Yes, these kids will have their own reality TV show when all are teenagers. And of course, they will have to up the teen drama to garner the ratings.
I feel for them. I don't think their eyes will be open to the truth until they are married themselves with kids and having to earn a living in the real world. That may well be 15 to 20 years from now. Until now Kate is ruling their minds and Jon's family should do an intervention and tell him every time he goes public with ANYTHING it gives Kate ammunition and more publicly. Jon needs to cut off all things public and NEVER give another interview for the next 20 years. Every time he opens his mouth it comes out wrong.
Stop Trashing the Children said... 113
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I agree there should be no name calling of the kids. But TFW has made it clear she thinks her kids should have material things. "Life on a Golden Platter". She just tweeted today she tries to honor all requests of her kids.
On the camping trip, this same child threw a royal fit because she wanted HER way and TFW didn't want to hear it. She said just let her have her way it's easier that way. So even if she didn't just mean material things, it's just as bad. Kids have to learn they can't have EVERYTHING in life
I can't believe that the dog is outside. She may think that he likes it there, but it's actually Kate that likes him to be there. What a cruel and heartless pet owner she is. "My" strays like it outside, too, but that doesn't mean that they wouldn't suffer if left there. They will be inside until tomorrow, if I feel it's safe for them to be go back outside. Does Kate actually realize how brutally cold it was/is out there? Has she stood outside for any length of time?
I tried to pump a full tank of gas and couldn't get it done. I was wearing gloves, and when I got back inside the car, my hands actually hurt. I mean...painful, and I was only outside for less than five minutes. Heated doghouse or not, no animal would enjoy being outside in the cold that we've had. This just makes me want to bang my head somewhere, or go shake some sense into her. Doubt, though, that the latter would do much good.
Remember when TFW was complaining about the storm that allegedly destroyed 497 of her trees? She tweeted how upset she was because the trees gave them "privacy." You know what the opposite of privacy is, TFW? Consenting to an interview during which you use your pubescent daughters to spout your agenda and throw their father under a bus. I can't blame those children - they're probably in survival mode
(which of course they're too young to understand). But I can't help but remember a moment on the show when one of these children hugged her dad, and TFW's voiceover said the child "still sees stars" when she sees her daddy. What a sad situation.
By "everything" she may have meant a good education, money for college, a stable life, etc. Interpreting the comment in the worst possible light and then insulting the children serves what purpose, exactly? Oh, it makes Kate look bad. The end justifies the means I suppose.
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Kate doesn't need any help from anyone here to make her look bad. She manages that fine, all by herself. Just putting her kids out there to do this interview speaks volumes, regardless of what the kids did or didn't say.
I'm thinking of changing my name to that because these developments may drive me to drink...more. ;)
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We'll, Auntie has a good supply of rumspringa in a keg. Why not call her up for a delivery? We have the brewery here, and all of us locals are getting together for a taste of the real thing!
From a HollywoodLife article on this subject:
"Kate explained that her daughters are thriving, despite not seeing their dad often. “Since Jon has been gone, they’ve just stepped up and pitched in,” she told the magazine. “They’ll have as normal a life as possible, given all that they’ve been through. I tell them, ‘You’re a kid, and your job is to be a kid.’”
If their job is being a kid, then why are they doing an interview with People magazine, Kate?
TFW says the twins are savvy because they "can size you up with a glance." Isn't that a bitl ike judging a book by its cover? Just like she said people who get to know her, love her, and should not superficially judge her.
Over In TFW's County said... 128
By "everything" she may have meant a good education, money for college, a stable life, etc. Interpreting the comment in the worst possible light and then insulting the children serves what purpose, exactly? Oh, it makes Kate look bad. The end justifies the means I suppose.
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Kate doesn't need any help from anyone here to make her look bad. She manages that fine, all by herself. Just putting her kids out there to do this interview speaks volumes, regardless of what the kids did or didn't say.
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That is no excuse for making nasty remarks about 13 year-olds, Adults need to behave like adults.
I hate the way Kate is using the kids but it's possible all this awful publicity is playing right into Robert's hands. She may be creating a market for the book where there wasn't one before.
I said...
Robert got it right in her book.
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Sorry. Robert. Egg all over my face. I know you're a "he." It's Milo that I'm not sure about! :) If you know, please tell us!
Both of those girls sound so entitled and spoiled. Mady was always like Kate even when she was 4 or 5 years old. It is really not their fault though. When the 6 came along they were thrown away like a used toy. This is truly sad. Imagine what their grandparents, aunts, uncles, etc. think of this mess. I feel bad when the 6 find out they were planned for fame and fortune, and not to be an addition to a family. Also note how Alexis is "grouped" with the boys and not any of the girls. You could not write this stuff as the old saying goes.
(Leslie)
Very excellent points made in comments #130 and #131. Kate is a walking contradiction of lies.
This is a quote from another article:
"Having six siblings show up all at once, that's the big deal in our life," said Mady. "And their messes, and their being annoying. I mean I love them but … yeesh." She went on to describe Alexis as "rabid" and "a wild animal."
No matter how the twins feel about their younger siblings, I find it so sad that this is being made public and that their mother approves of it.
And for the sheeple reading here, this is not "bashing" the twins. This is criticizing their mother for allowing and encouraging the twins to state their feelings in a public forum, just to "set the record straight".
TJ said... 19
The mere fact that these girls are on the cover of this magazine and talking about these issues has affected them and they will not understand that until later in life....Kate has not made a good choice for them to do this. I just am flabbergasted at the lack of insight she has to her life and her childrens...
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Exactly, TJ.
I fear for how these girls are going to feel someday about what they did to their father in this interview. It's going to hit them like a bucket of cold water in the face.
It shouldn't even be legal to use kids like this.
And if their job being a kid, why then were they made to work for their keep? Why are they acting as her therapist, maid, babysitter, companion?
If their job is being a kid, then why are they doing an interview with People magazine, Kate?
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And why the desperate attempt to get them on another television show? You can bet your bottom dollar that if the offer were made, she'd scoop those kids up so fast, heading for the studio never caring if their job is to just be a kid.
There's some poor illiterate soul on the People comment section called elenor (sic) who is defending Kate.Says she sends her gifts. Well, elenor, sorry to say they are likely in the trash with all the other well-meant gifts Several others claim to live near TFW and vouch for her wanting VIP treatment in stores, things we have heard and seen documented before.
Could this kind of interview have happened out in California, Admin? Or could the other parent have gotten her before a judge on parental alienation?
Remember when TFW was complaining about the storm that allegedly destroyed 497 of her trees?
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LOL!! You mean the Halloween storm that was here one day and gone the next and absolutely did not destroy the trees in her driveway? That storm? That big fib she told for sympathy, forgetting that there were locals in her area who could see that the trees weren't damaged?
OrangeCrusher1 said... 120
#dontsayIdidntwarnyou
This is for Jon, not her adoring fans.
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Totally agree, that's exactly who it was for. The queen letting him know that she was bringing out the pawns. Can she get any lower? Probably. It's only Wednesday.
Well, why are we even surprised by this circus? The twins have obviously been spoiled and brainwashed by mom and now it's clear to me why they don't care to spend much time with Jon. Then there's Jon complaining about wanting privacy for his kids but goes on a trashy show embarrassing his kids. I don't think we will EVER run out of things to talk about.
Oh, and poor Shoka out in the cold. She is incredibly cruel. I told you guys the only reason she allows Shoka around is to patrol the property. He is not a family pet. Having Shoka returned was probably Steve's idea.
And those of you who thought the wedding Lego tweet was odd, it was planned and that witch is out to get a show and use the kids to do it .
Finally as I blow off steam, if Jon really believes the kids are a mess, he needs to demand they go into therapy instead of getting paid to spout off in a magazine. The whole bunch is dysfunctional. . . Mom, dad and kids!
(Leslie) Comment #106
Exactly! And it struck me that Kate says, " They really are trying to work with me even now, when they have emotional moments.” Kate is their therapist. HA! ME, ME, ME.
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The blind leading the blind, as the saying goes. What a recipe for disaster in that household.
I'm trying to digest all of this nonsense, but right now I don't have words. I need more than a drink.
localyocul said... 112
Has M held onto this resentment all these years? I mean we saw it on the show but come on! How well can she possible remember life before the tups? What were they, 4?
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I think her resentment is understandable, although I agree holding on to it for 9 years is excessive. After all, before the sextuplets came, they had mom and dad's attention all to themselves. After the sextuplets came, they watched mom and dad's marriage go down the drain. And the impression I have is that they have taken over Jon's role as the keeper of the kids. I don't think Kate has changed all that much, and I'm sure she still sits around in a chair and orders Mady and Cara to take care of their siblings much like she did with Jon. I said it before and I'll say it again, it doesn't surprise me that they don't necessarily want to go to Jon's at the same time as the sextuplets do. That's probably one of the only times they get a break from them. Also, since they're Kate's best friends, that might be the time they get the most attention from her.
But in the end, who really knows what goes on in either of their houses? All I do know is that this family, imo, is dysfunctional and it's just very sad.
Admin - good point on Mady's comment. I wonder, though, if Cara didn't have a more difficult time with it. Mady seems like she can go with the flow more then Cara does. I also think Cara was more of a Daddy's girl, so the divorce might have hit her harder. Mady may have simply seen it as "Oh good, they're not fighting anymore".
But who really knows and in the end it's all speculation. It's just sad that she let them be interviewed in the first place. Did I read correctly that she made $75000 from this piece? Wow. Just wow.
Rearranging the Deck Chairs on the Titanic, your name us more relevant than ever!
Stop Trashing the Children said... 113
SMH said... 91
'Our mom is the best,' said Cara. 'She wants us to have everything, and she fights for that, and I love her for it.'
Spoiled, entitled little brats.
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Yes, let's keep insulting those children. That's what adults should do when 13 year-olds give interviews. It's "fair game."
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It IS "fair game". Momma pushed for this interview no doubt, but the words came out of the kids' mouths. Should we bury our heads like the sheep and NOT say how this makes them sound?
I won't call them any disgusting names, but they DO sound like entitled, spoiled brats. And we all saw M especially make that glaringly obvious on their tv show.
For those who are upset that some of us feel that way...scroll on by, baby.
This smells of Kate talk, from the twins. We should call this the Kate Games! Kate has brainwashed those kids. The article makes those girls sound like brats, spoiled entitled. The phrase: People think were messed up Wahhhh. Sorry, that smells of immature Kate all over it. Most of the People comments are negative, and call the girls brats. Wasn't it in November Kate was quiet on twitter? This is revenge, to Jon. Kate probably did not have Jon's ok to exploit the twins. Like I posted earlier, Kate will defy court orders and put the kids on TV. We will see more of this. The kids at school will love this. Jon was right, what he said in that interview about what he said about the kids. Kate just proved that. Jon was right Kate is an A-hole!
“Since Jon has been gone, they’ve just stepped up and pitched in,” she told the magazine.
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For the millionth time Kate, Jon isn't dead.
They didn't see anything wrong with dating because most people don't see anything wrong with dating. Dad's friends were probably nice to them, fun, not a big deal. They clearly never saw anything traumatic or upsetting or they wouldn't think it was any big deal. Then in the pow wows with their BFF they were educated about how terribly wrong it is to date after your relationship is over.
I can't wait until they can think for themselves. Even if they end up coming to the same conclusions I still think any intelligent adult would be angry at how used they were.
Lol auntie graveside visits are every weekend didn't you know?
Can you imagine if Jon said since Kate has been gone the kids have just stepped up and pitched in around my house. I mean, same difference.
She will never shut up. Never. What's next? Call Kate Coyne to do an interview with the other six, or will she wait a few years until she can make sure that they are fed enough stuff on their father that it sounds convincing?
There is a lot I don't share but I have had it with the friends with the crew bit. One of my clients knew about me living in their neighborhood and told me his grandson was on the crew. He said his grandson said Kate is a bitch but he would "do" her. I just shook my head. This is a member of the "crew" they miss and would now be around her teenagers.
After all this nonsense, I think it would be prudent for Mr. Hoffman to make a statement one way or the other regarding the publication of his book.
Is it going to happen, is it not? Was he silenced by Kate's lawyers? Did he have a change of heart and simply changed his mind?
I just don't see his silence, especially in view of recent developments, as lending to his credibility.
I want to believe that when he started this project he really was invested in just bringing to light the truth behind the Gosselin brand and revealing the abuse the children suffered.
Though I never particularly cared for his teasing and taunts and thought that perhaps it was not the most appropriate marketing tool, I still believed in the importance of his message.
These kids were NOT just playing; scenes were staged, content was scripted and behind closed doors kids were being beaten with a wooden spoon while countless "stage hands" looked the other way pretending not to hear their cries.
Mr. Hoffman, you swore you weren't going to bullied into silence. You were adamant that you have evidence to back your claims and then some.
Why so quiet now?
Kate's piecing & putting things together has gotten to a real time low; making her eldest children lie. Kate most likely promised them front row/back stage tickets for One direction.
Jon is right; TFW is going back in times using the kids to get where she wants to be; rich and famous. Hopefully this too will bottom out and Kate goes down.
Patk I'm with you.
"For the millionth time Kate, Jon isn't dead."
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Much to her dismay, I'm sure. That's the one thing she has no control over.
"Like I posted earlier, Kate will defy court orders and put the kids on TV."
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There are court orders in place prohibiting the kids from being filmed?
Where's this $75000 figure coming from?
As SNH said up thread, saying it to be "funny, flip or cute" is one thing but seeing it in print is quite another (and yes, i include Jon's "asshole" comment in this). I hope that the twins feel a bit of remorse for the things said about Jon especially when the kids in school start in with the "boy, you dad's a real jerk". As far as the twins being ver savvy and being able to size you up with a glance? Doubtful. They don't have enough life/people experiences to size anyone up. When they were filming they were surrounded by TFW's yes men and were not allowed to interact with those around them. We saw it time and time again when TFW freaked out because the unwashed masses were getting too close.
It's very sad that it's come to this. I hope they really, really enjoy the 1D concert especially if this is the price they had to pay to get those tickets.
Did anyone watch Ryan & Tatum O'Neil's reality show on OWN? THAT is this family's future.
Tatum lamented about having adult responsibilities, having the pressure to act etc...her father? Total narcissist like tfw.
It's wrong if the twins bashed the sextuplets and it was not edited out. Surely even TFW wouldn't stoop that low...would she?. That's terrible to say about Alexis. She and Collin really are the odd-ones out in that family.
Even back on the show this happened, for all to see.
It IS "fair game". Momma pushed for this interview no doubt, but the words came out of the kids' mouths. Should we bury our heads like the sheep and NOT say how this makes them sound?
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I agree. Disgusting names are uncalled for, but hey, they did the interview, they spoke, and their attitude and words are not supposed to be discussed? That's hardly a level playing field. If they didn't want to be judged, then all of them, momma and the kids, should never have consented to do this. She can't use her children to get back at Jon and not expect backlash. It doesn't work that way.
I think all of this is going to backfire on her. Big time.
"Having six siblings show up all at once, that's the big deal in our life," said Mady. "And their messes, and their being annoying. I mean I love them but … yeesh." She went on to describe Alexis as "rabid" and "a wild animal."
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That awful! I hope she didn't say that!
What ones it say about America that here is a woman who hasn't had a real job in 10 Years is a millionaire and just made more than i do in a year with two jobs by siting around while having her teens trash their dad!"Having six siblings show up all at once, that's the big deal in our life," said Mady. "And their messes, and their being annoying. I mean I love them but … yeesh." She went on to describe Alexis as "rabid" and "a wild animal."
Can you imagine if Jon said since Kate has been gone the kids have just stepped up and pitched in around my house. I mean, same difference.
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Oh she'd have a fit.
Jon calling her an asshole seems mild in comparison now.
If we sat down and counted the hours and days each of those two have spent with their kids, Jon's time would out-number that witch's.
She may live in the same house as they do but the whole reason she wanted that place was to distance herself from them. How quickly she forgets that those words came out of her very own piehole. I remember her saying that on one of the couch interviews.
(Leslie)
She went on to describe Alexis as "rabid" and "a wild animal." I am sitting here literally with my mouth ajar. Wow!! Holy Cow!!! How sad and Kate was sitting right there no doubt.
It speaks to Kate's lies that all the kids are doing great. I am not picking on Alexis. I am speaking directly and only to this comment by their sibling. From Kate's twitter comments and Jon's comments in the Roundtable interview, it sounds like Hannah and Leah or friends and that leaves Alexis out. Again, I am just going on Kate, Jon's and sibling comment. I feel really bad for Alexis to have this comment in print. And it is no secret to the entire world she was the girl that was expelled from kindergarten for bad emotional problems. And Kate wants the family to film again. Why? So we can further see the bad behavior of her kids just like in Katie Couric's piece on them.
(Leslie) I said that I read once this figure--$75,000. I don't know it to be truth.
OrangeCrusher1 said... 120
''#dontsayIdidntwarnyou''
''This is for Jon, not her adoring fans. He crossed HER line again, dared to get real lawyers and forced her to take her ludicrous lawsuit away. She is beyond help IMO.''
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I logged on to say the very same thing! Once again, most of us see right straight through TFMJG and into her evil mind/heart!! !!!!!!
Westbrooke said... 155
There is a lot I don't share but I have had it with the friends with the crew bit. One of my clients knew about me living in their neighborhood and told me his grandson was on the crew. He said his grandson said Kate is a bitch but he would "do" her. I just shook my head. This is a member of the "crew" they miss and would now be around her teenagers.
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There it is folks. Thank you Westbrooke. The real story will slowly seep through the drivel Kate spouts. She wanted those not-new-boobs for more than one reason.
Seems to me Robert said in his book that Kate did her fair share of bed hopping too before she met Jon. Why would she not go back to her old ways after he died? I mean after she divorced him?
I shudder to think of what's in these kids' future.
I noticed that People doesn't even have this story on the main page anymore. Hopefully this is due the backlash and outrage.
(Leslie)
It just hit me that Jon used the word "wild" when they introduced the kids in the opening of Jon and Kate Plus 8. Am I correct? And here is the same word to describe Alexis. Ever hear of the self-fulfilling prophesy? A strongly held belief, or delusion—declared as truth when it is actually false—so that they their reactions ultimately fulfill the once-false prophecy. Alexis may not be wild but she had heard her father call her that hundreds of times. (As innocent as it was of Jon). Remember they watch the reruns hundreds of times no doubt. And now here it is again by another family member years and years later. This quote by her sibling will affect Alexis very badly I predict. She may be too young now but believe me she will have the world mention this quote to her many times in her future.
Keep calling her wild and she may just become wild to prove the family right.
#167 - yep, AuntieAnn, you remember correctly. The word TFW used about the extra space in the new house (which was hers, all hers) was that it would allow the children to "disperse." And that word was accompanied by a grin I would liken to the one the Grinch sprouted when he decided to steal Christmas. That was the last episode I watched.
I have a knot in my stomach about this whole thing. One sister using such an awful description of another sister. In print. Forever. How can she possibly realize the power of her words at 13? She's a child, so I can't blame her. But I sure can blame her mother for facilitating it.
When Katie Couric arrived at TFW's house, the first thing I noticed was how Cara tried to hide from the camera by standing behind Kate. When the twins gave their names they looked miserable, and in Mady's case miserable with an attitude. For me at least, none of the kids looked happy or particularly thrilled to be in front of the camera again.
Kate sees the twins as young enough to manipulate and intimidate, and old enough to use as her mouthpieces. Sure, they will tow the line, because they see what ordinary life looks like at their dad's place, and what money has bought them at their mom's.
What's next, taking the twins along with her on the talk show circuit, so all 3 of them can beg together for a new show?
If she's not using her kids to get herself back into teevee, why is she in the picture on the cover of People and the cover of the crookbook?
User, child and animal abuser, disgusting WOS.
Everyone have a great week. Go Saints!
Kate, you idiot. A heated doghouse, in your opinion, may be fine if the dog lies in it all day, but eventually he must come out. The ground is frozen, there was snow cover, and those paws (and his nose and ears) have to hurt if he's outside too much. If you can't stand to have the dog upstairs with you, then at least allow him to be in the basement at night and get some relief from the cold weather.
I remember when they got the dog, she bragged that he had a heated house outside. Did she just now get a heated doghouse...was the old one worn out, and all this time he's spent the cold winters roaming outside?
This "I miss the crew" crap is enough. Of course they were nice. They were PAID to be nice. It was their JOB. That one statement shows that the kids are, indeed, damaged. Normal kids want to be with cousins, aunts, uncles, friends. Not paid employees.
Mom gives us "everything." Another statement that they are damaged. Controlled by extrinsic, material goods...but no mention of being loved by being listened to, being played with, etc.
The statement about Alexis is disturbing. NO sense of family, of protecting family. I bet that house is just like Lord of the Flies. And I agree w/ Jon...Kate is an Asshole. And much worse. She disgusts me.
Someone up thread made a very good point. Lindsey Lohan has two of the worst show business parents, and as a result, she is seriously messed up. But now that she's an adult, people mock her, and have little sympathy for her continuing antics and addictions. That's because most people think that once you reach adulthood, and if you have the monetary resources like Lohan, you ought to seek counseling, try to get your life together, and are now responsible for all decisions, both good and bad.
The same outlook is going to come down on Mady and Cara's heads if they continue on this road with Mommy Dearest. If it's true that they are rude and disrespectful to their father, and prefer to stay home with their mom because she bribes them and buys them expensive show tickets and iPhones, etc., then they are indeed entitled bratty children. Not really their fault, but the closer they come to graduation and age 18, the less people will cut them slack for their privileged attitude.
I can only hope that they felt they had to make such comments for the article in order to please their mother, and that they don't really feel this way. Only time will tell.
There is no low that Kate will not sink to, if it means getting her fugly mug on the cover of a magazine. She's so completely warped, and sounds like she has warped her two oldest kids in the process. It is a real shame, and People enables this. At this point, the National Enquirer has more respectability than People - which is good for nothing beyond lining your bird cage.
Years ago, I cancelled my subscription to People. I wrote to them and told them why I was cancelling. Who at People likes this woman so much? TFW is desperate to get another show. Hope no producer is desperate enough to take the bait. The last time TFW was on the cover of People, the magazine rack at local Wal-Mart stayed full until new issue came out. You'd think People would get a clue. I couldn't be the only person who cancelled.
Re Shoka, doesn't he come and stand by the door when he hears someone in the living area? He could freeze to death just doing that or even for a short while relieving himself.
Sick ass woman. I almost threw up when I woke up this morning and saw that People cover.
They all miss the crew, but the fact is, the crew doesn't miss them. If they did, they would keep in touch. It's sad that these kids still, after 2 1/2 years, pine over people who apparently don't give a crap about them. But the kids don't miss the people who do care about them, but were banished from their lives. How does that make sense?
Poor Alexis. She always seemed like the odd girl out, and she seemed shunned by the other girls. Remember the RV episode, when Hannah said to hold hands, so "If we die, we die together", and Leah wouldn't hold Alexis's hand? And just recently Kate tweeted that she told one of the girls (Hannah or Leah) that a pet peeve is something that really annoys you, and the girl said, "Alexis, you are my pet peeve". Just think how Alexis feels. It has to be hurtful, and now another sister is bashing her in a magazine that will be read by millions. That is far worse than anything said by/about Jon or Kate. Alexis is a 9-year-old child, and shouldn't have to deal with being publicly bashed. And the fact that Kate sat there and allowed it is inexcusable. That poor little girl has nobody to stand up for her. She must feel so alone and unwanted in that family.
Hmm, this makes me wonder. Did Kate contact People to give them exclusive access to the kids to counter not just Jon's interview but also his appearance on Couples Therapy?
I wouldn't put it past her. In her world everything is about her and the fact that her "horrid ex" husband is out in the public eye must make her crazy when she couldn't even get a call back from the guy from the "Girls Gone Wild" guy, if she wanted.
I think it is imperative that Jon haul Kate back into family court to address these 2 issues:
1. Twins visitation/custody schedule; Usually I think that teens should have a big say as to which parent to spend time with, but TFW seems to be exercising far too much control over which kids go or stay and the judge needs to put a stop to this.
2. ANY and ALL interviews, photo-shoots, TV segments, etc. must require BOTH parent's approval BEFOREHAND. Preferably, I think these things should be prohibited completely. A judge needs to make a ruling so TFW can't get away with constantly dragging her kids into the public eye. This would include using their names and likenesses on any product, including cookbooks, magazine covers and websites like her blog. If legally possible TFW should be prevented from using twitter, and other social media as well, to show pictures or talk about the kids.
Is it possible through the courts to force her to change her name back to Krieder?
I would also like to point out that is exceedingly rare for a 13-year-old (especially one who never had therapy!) to acknowledge or identify the negative aspects of their personalities or behaviors. That portion of their brain has not even completely formed yet. What young teen doesn't think they are awesome and the world revolves around them? Rarely happens.
It's been forever since I've posted here. I read occasionally, but had to comment on this topic. I've not read the article or all the posts, so bear with me if I'm repeating others' words.
My very bitter single mother railed against my father and his family from their day of separation (I was six) until she booted me out of the house at age 18.
My mother was narcissistic and controlling woman. My siblings and I would walk on eggshells and willingly jumped on the bandwagon with her against my father, because if we did not, we would suffer.
My mother also made me testify against a stepfather of mine. I had to state that he beat us (age 12), but of course I couldn't say a word about the beatings she gave us with wooden spoons, belts, hairbrushes, and her bare hand.
Thankfully my stepfather well knew I was made to testify (or else!) and he never held it against me. My relationship with him was a wonderful one and lasted until the day he passed. Compared to my relationship with my mother, I've spent many, many years estranged from her. The horrid, exaggerated, and negative talk about my father came into focus to me upon reaching adulthood.
I can only hope Jon reacts (to the twins remarks) in the same loving and caring manner my stepfather did.
AuntieAnn said... 65
URL said... 53
I always considered the magazine to be a a step above other magazines of this genre, but I don't anymore.
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You have Kate Coyne to thank for that.
I've said this before, you could take the head of a pig and photoshop it onto Coyne's shoulders and you wouldn't even notice the difference between the two faces.
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I don't know how Kate Coyne even keeps a job with PEOPLE. I refuse to ever buy it again as long as she's an Idiot, er I mean Editor.
Mr. Hoffman, you swore you weren't going to bullied into silence. You were adamant that you have evidence to back your claims and then some
Maybe he wasn't bullied into silence. Maybe he was paid off.
I'm simply speechless.
jbranck1980 said... 173
I noticed that People doesn't even have this story on the main page anymore. Hopefully this is due the backlash and outrage.
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Earlier, I went to the People site to take a gander at the comments. It seems like the article is only accessible now from their paid site. Interesting. I'm thinking that the comments were scorching.
Sheri said... 156
After all this nonsense, I think it would be prudent for Mr. Hoffman to make a statement one way or the other regarding the publication of his book.
Is it going to happen, is it not? Was he silenced by Kate's lawyers? Did he have a change of heart and simply changed his mind?
I just don't see his silence, especially in view of recent developments, as lending to his credibility.
I want to believe that when he started this project he really was invested in just bringing to light the truth behind the Gosselin brand and revealing the abuse the children suffered........
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For Kate to go balls out and put her twins on the cover of People so they can trash their father..... tells me that Robert has been silenced for good. She doesn't seem too concerned with him. We'll never hear from him again.
No loving mother does this to her kids or makes her kids do this. She is a sick, disturbed piece of garbage. I can't imagine how these girls face their very, very, very wealthy friends. Friends who don't have to be pimped on the cover of People to pay for next year's tuition. My God..... I never thought Kate would stoop this low. My heart breaks tonight for all the Gosselin children. Make it stop.
Rhythm Of Life said... 165
It IS "fair game". Momma pushed for this interview no doubt, but the words came out of the kids' mouths. Should we bury our heads like the sheep and NOT say how this makes them sound?
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I agree. Disgusting names are uncalled for, but hey, they did the interview, they spoke, and their attitude and words are not supposed to be discussed? That's hardly a level playing field. If they didn't want to be judged, then all of them, momma and the kids, should never have consented to do this. She can't use her children to get back at Jon and not expect backlash. It doesn't work that way.
13 year-olds cannot legally consent to anything. Maybe they wanted to do the interview, maybe they didn't. None of us knows. That's not a reason for adults to rip apart children.
I just went to the People main site and can still access the article. It's in the "News" section now.
Turtle Logic said... 185
I think it is imperative that Jon haul Kate back into family court to address these 2 issues:
1. Twins visitation/custody schedule; Usually I think that teens should have a big say as to which parent to spend time with, but TFW seems to be exercising far too much control over which kids go or stay and the judge needs to put a stop to this.
I think Jon has already answered this in one of his interviews. He says the twins prefer to be at their mom's more and he's fine with that. He has stated he spends time with the twins apart from the sextuplets. Despite his recent interview, I give Jon props for respecting his children's wished. He himself was a child of divorce and I think this gives him some insights into how to handle the twins right now. If he weren't seeing them at all, that would be different. Apparently the current arrangement works for him and the kids.
2. ANY and ALL interviews, photo-shoots, TV segments, etc. must require BOTH parent's approval BEFOREHAND. Preferably, I think these things should be prohibited completely. A judge needs to make a ruling so TFW can't get away with constantly dragging her kids into the public eye. This would include using their names and likenesses on any product, including cookbooks, magazine covers and websites like her blog. If legally possible TFW should be prevented from using twitter, and other social media as well, to show pictures or talk about the kids.
We've had this discussion before. Kate and Jon have joint physical custody. Kate has full legal custody. That means that if she wants to let the kids do interviews or film, she has the right to do so, and their judge has backed her up on this in the past. Yes, Jon could take her back into court and he did that during the Australia trip. However, I think Jon has realized that Kate isn't getting a show any time soon and I think he's probably decided to cross that bridge when and if it comes to that.
I am sure he probably is telling himself "9 more years and then all the kids will be over 18 and I won't need to deal with her again, except for graduations and weddings."
"Having six siblings show up all at once, that's the big deal in our life," said Mady. "And their messes, and their being annoying. I mean I love them but … yeesh." She went on to describe Alexis as "rabid" and "a wild animal."
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What a horrendous thing for People magazine to print. Horrible. And what 13 year old would use those terms to describe a sibling?? Maybe a 20 year old, but not a 13 year old.
It really is making Kate crazy that she can't just ban Jon from the kids' lives. That's where all the hate comes from. She has banished everyone else who ever mattered to them, attempting to make them completely emotionally dependent upon her, but she can't make him go away. So she makes him pay for it every chance she gets. Remember her email to Hailey saying, "I have to get my kids away from Jon". If she had been able to do that, then she would have succeeded in cutting them off from everyone else but her. Sure, they go to school, but she made sure it wasn't close to home so the other kids wouldn't be close to them. She wants her kids as isolated as possible, so that she gets to be the only influence in their lives.
I knew things were not good for Alexis when they said she was sleeping in the basement because she was a bat. Time and time again, Kate encouraged Hannah and Leah to be together and to leave Alexis out (Philly episode) and in her book she praised the other two and stated Alexis was delayed in physical development and liked to be on her own. The other two were the heroes in many of her anecdotes. I guess she passed this attitude down to the twins.
I used to think Joel was the odd boy out, but I guess now that he 'likes to look good' he's ok- for an icky boy. When Katie C visited Hannah pointed to Collin and Alexis as the troublemakers who liked to fight.
In my wildest imaginings of poor parenting, I did not think of a mother pimping out her daughters to trash their father to achieve some tabloid fame.
To quote Auntie -- What a world!
silimom said... 194
I just went to the People main site and can still access the article. It's in the "News" section now.
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Yes, it can be accessed but it isn't on the first page anymore. You have to click to see more headlines. This morning, it was the top story. I'm an avid people.com reader (don't judge) and I've never seen it where the top story of the day doesn't stay on the main page unless something BIG happens (divorce, scandal, death etc.)
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