The same day that cover was released, inTouch released their own cover of Kate, "Destroyed by Greed." In their interview with Jon, in which he lashed out at Kate, Jon said Kate is "hurting our children."
And the battle rages on.
Wednesday, January 8, 2014
Dueling magazine covers
This week Kate and the twins are on the cover of People. The twins insist they are not damaged by reality T.V.
The same day that cover was released, inTouch released their own cover of Kate, "Destroyed by Greed." In their interview with Jon, in which he lashed out at Kate, Jon said Kate is "hurting our children."
And the battle rages on.
The same day that cover was released, inTouch released their own cover of Kate, "Destroyed by Greed." In their interview with Jon, in which he lashed out at Kate, Jon said Kate is "hurting our children."
And the battle rages on.
520 sediments (sic) from readers:
«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 400 of 520 Newer› Newest»I could only get through a dozen or so People comments.
If the purpose of this lunancy was to garner sympathy, get back on tv or to show how mentally and socially healthy her household is, TFW has missed the mark.
By a freaking hundred miles.
She is, has been and will always be a fucktard.
JudyK said... 188
I don't know how Kate Coyne even keeps a job with PEOPLE. I refuse to ever buy it again as long as she's an Idiot, er I mean Editor.
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JudyK- Hi! You've been MIA. Nice to see your name again.
I don't know how she has kept it either but I'm sure she's part or most of the reason the magazine has become so trashy.
Whatever....she still doesn't have a show and a big paycheck...that's the bottom line. This cover will be forgotten by next week. This article will get her nowhere....when the smoke clears...she will still be unemployed. She can go back to her piecing and patching. Believe me....she's done..
Unbelievable it really sucks when your heart breaks for someone else's children knowing full well there is nothing you can do...
Does Mady wonder what this statement would feel like if it was about her and Cara after they were born. Having TWINS show up all at once, that's the big deal in our life,"-------"And their messes, and their being annoying. I mean I love them but … yeesh."
Westcoastie ( #1): My coffee just went out my nose, you calling her a fucktard. That. Is. what. TFW. is.
It's not a surprise that she can't go away graciously. These little magazine thingys give her a glimmer of hope to get her mug on TV again. At some point you have to move on. She can't do that for whatever reason. If she wants to spin her wheels.....we'll then.
Admin, I'm wondering if Jon could use the People interview quoting the twins as a basis for going to court and using parental alienation as a way to stop TFW from using his children as a way to keep HER face in the news? Is there anything he can do to stop her awful behavior?
I just feel so sorry for the children (and Jon)!!
We suspected that the children were being exploited.
Sheeple denied it. Paul Petersen wrote the Gosselins a letter. Rep. Murt wrote a new law that was passed.
We "haters" knew the marriage was over while watching the fake vow renewal.
Sheeple denied it.
We knew Jon was out and about in bars.
Sheeple denied it.
Once it hit the tabloids, we know that Kate allowed Jon to date as long has he pretended to still be together while in front of the camera.
Sheeple denied it.
We knew Kate told Jon "it's over" and he than had to live above the garage.
Sheeple denied it.
We know Jon didn't start dating until the marriage was completely over.
Sheeple denied it.
Kate cleared this up with Hailey and in an interview. Sheeple STILL deny it.
We think there is something wrong with a woman choosing a married bodyguard over her husband's wishes.
Sheeple denied it.
We don't think publicity is good for children.
Sheeple denied it.
We knew Kate was abusing her kid.
Sheeple denied it.
We knew Kate was a greedy grifter.
Sheeple denied it.
We knew Kate had no talent and didn't have the ambition to actually learn anything. (Dancing, speaking, cooking, running, blogging, photography)
Sheeple denied it.
We don't think EITHER parent should exploit their kids.
Sheeple think only Kate can.
We care about the kids, their futures, their psyches and their privacy.
Sheeple don't.
I know there is much much more that the "haters" knew and the sheeple keep denying. They are pathetic.
Nancy said... 4
''Unbelievable it really sucks when your heart breaks for someone else's children knowing full well there is nothing you can do...''
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I know exactly what you mean Nancy. I'm so upset by all this that I'm sitting here with a stomach ache!
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I was just channel surfing and caught the very tale end of a piece on E channel about the People cover about the Gosselin shoot. The man host said something like it sounds like another reality show is in the works or it sounds like they want another reality show. The woman responded something like "don't do it, don't do it". Even the woman host knows better than their Mother Kate. A new reality show is not in the best of any parties concerned.
The fact that Jon said she can't afford her old lifestyle anymore was a very interesting comment. Sounds like she has some financial issues. I wished he could have elaborated on that. That was the most telling comment in the whole article.
I, too, find it very telling that People online has removed their COVER story......Maybe what is most unseemly to a lot of people, where it enters the category of SICK, is that previously Jon and Kate were slinging the dirt back and forth between themselves. Now Kate seems happy, no downright GIDDY to let two thirteen year old children trash their father on the cover of what is considered the most popular magazine in America.....it literally makes me feel nauseous...and she is a mentally ill individual.
Admin, I'm wondering if Jon could use the People interview quoting the twins as a basis for going to court and using parental alienation as a way to stop TFW from using his children as a way to keep HER face in the news? Is there anything he can do to stop her awful behavior?
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Remona, I was wondering the same thing. What mother is so desperate that she has to use her own children to get back at the ex that she despises? That's about as low as you can go. If the sheeple approve and condone this, then they are as sick as she is and shouldn't be parents.
I've had it up the gazoo with her. Can she get any more stupid that this last stunt? I don't know, but I wouldn't put it past her, and in her tweet she said that there were good things coming. She is out of her freaking mind. Isn't there anyone out there in her circle who can sit her down and read her the riot act...that you just don't do this no matter how desperate you are in your futile quest to remain relevant, you keep your children out of it?
As far as the twins being very savy and being able to size you up with a glance?
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This is probably the most disturbing thing Kate has said in my opinion. She's insinuating these young teen girls can handle whatever comes their way. What a dangerous attitude for a mother to have about her children. But, that's Kate. If she didn't see it, it didn't happen. Oh, what trouble awaits these kids down the road. I feel sick just thinking about it.
Nancy said... 4
''Unbelievable it really sucks when your heart breaks for someone else's children knowing full well there is nothing you can do...''
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Absolutely. We're watching it and there's not a dang thing that can be done about it. This isn't just a matter of nit-picking because Kate is what she is. There are children here, and she is encouraging parental alienation -- actually condoning it, and these kids are her pawns.
I am also concerned about the dog. She should be made to sit outside and see how she likes spending brutally cold days outdoors. That dog should be taken away from her. She's far too stupid to listen to any advice. The woman is so stubborn, so controlling, that no amount of reasoning is going to make any difference. Moreover, wait until that bird bites her on the cheek and she's scarred for life. People have told her, but she knows best. She needs a wake-up call. Now. About everything in her life.
I actually have a headache from all of this. I need to take a breather. Going to go hug my family and my pets, thankful that none of this is happening in our lives.
Kate sure is funny. Many of us were down on Jon. Jon's 'mistake' of going on CT was the main topic. She just couldn't stand Jon getting ANY attention. Now she outshined him by proving, once again, that she is the worst parent in this bad parent household.
I'm done defending Jon because he's not my personal friend and I really don't know where his heart is. However, Kate has no heart. She is a despicable human being who should never have been a mother.
So what do you, if you are JG, say to your teen daughters on your next dinner date? Their published remarks about his dating life are simply awful, maybe out of context, but how could their fucktard of a mother give consent to this? She did herself no favors, again, with this latest escapade in parental alienation. It's sickening.
Nearby there is a homeless man who feeds a stray cat. I saw the man looking for the cat and than saw the cat running at full speed towards him. It was very cute to see.
Nancy said... 4
''Unbelievable it really sucks when your heart breaks for someone else's children knowing full well there is nothing you can do...''
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I know exactly what you mean Nancy. I'm so upset by all this that I'm sitting here with a stomach ache!
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I do know that the bottom line is that this is none of my business BUT they keep making it my business. We just had a story on the news where a 4yr old girl was rescued from abuse from a family friend and I feel the same a WTF response and I'll damned if I sit idly by and not care!!! I have kids I have and will continue to fight tooth and nail to protect them whatever the cost I don't care how old they are IT'S MY JOB!!!!!
13 year-olds cannot legally consent to anything. Maybe they wanted to do the interview, maybe they didn't. None of us knows. That's not a reason for adults to rip apart children.
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What does it matter whether they consented legally or illegally? They did the interview (most likely at Kate's insistence). They poked at their father for the number of girlfriends he had. She used the kids for revenge. They spoke. Kate sanctioned it and did nothing to stop it, and therefore the kids are going to be judged. Ripping a child apart...not acceptable. Ripping Kate apart for allowing it to happen...totally fair.
There is something very very wrong in Kate Gosselin's mind that she thinks pimping her 13 year old twins out in an interview to People for a paycheck is a good thing. Is she that desperate for the money. Well honey, start looking for a cheaper home, close to the kids school. You have options, but continuing to use your children is one of your dumbest decisions in the last month. Have you no respect for yourself. What kind of attention does this give the kids in school? It cannot be favorable. The poor teacher's heads' must be spinning with Kate's latest antics and what they are left with to deal with the children.
I really should stop thinking about TFMJG and her horrid behavior because it is so personally upsetting and frustrating, but I just can't stop thinking about those poor children. I'm reduced to wondering if Shawn Tuma knows a good family law attorney that would step forward to help Jon deal with what TFW is doing to him and his children. How lame is that?
Kate...better to have remained quiet and been thought a fool..then to have opened your mouth and removed all doubt!
Shame on you for exposing your twins to this War of the Roses~!
Shame on you for not shutting down the twins comments about the sextuplets.
Ladies and gentlemen.... if Satan walks this earth, he looks and acts like Kate Gosselin!
When will the interview with the six-pack be in People? In another couple of months when things calm down and Kate decides it's time to be relevant again?
Perhaps in the summer we'll get Shoka and Zorro's take on things.
Those faux French nails of hers will be in shards pretty soon if she doesn't quit clawing her way around for some attention.
ANNA LOWE said... 13
I, too, find it very telling that People online has removed their COVER story......Maybe what is most unseemly to a lot of people, where it enters the category of SICK, is that previously Jon and Kate were slinging the dirt back and forth between themselves. Now Kate seems happy, no downright GIDDY to let two thirteen year old children trash their father on the cover of what is considered the most popular magazine in America.....it literally makes me feel nauseous...and she is a mentally ill individual.
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What I think is most telling is that out of the handful of sheeple comments on the article, none of them are defending her. They are just calling the other commenters poopy heads and the like. Even the sheeple know there is no defending this. There is no defense for what she has publicly done to her daughters. Worse, they just spent the last the last two weeks on their high horses comdemning Jon for his Philly mag article and how AWFUL it was for him to trash the mother of his children in public. Kate topped him by putting her girls up to doing her dirt. The sheeple are hypocrites and they know it, but this stunt so close to the Philly mag article puts them in a bad spot. If they think for a minute that Kate is #winning because she got 75k for this trash, they are sadly mistaken. It's the equivalent of blood money. It shows that Kate has no soul, no conscience, no morals and no inherent motherly instinct to protect her children. The only thing Kate loves more than herself is money. Today, more than ever, she made this abundantly clear.
This bitch has sunk to a new, disgusting low. I didn't think it was possible but she did it. She is so controlling desperate for stardom that she now has her children out there pitching for her. She's manipulating and brainwashing them and if she thinks the public is so stupid not to see through her transparency she is sadly mistaken. Someone needs to get those kids away from this nutcase, dictator. I am so sickened by this last stunt I could scream.
Here's the link to the Daily Mail article in case it hasn't been posted. It gives a little more info about the People article than the others.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2535976/Kate-Gosselins-reality-star-daughters-Cara-Mady-13-open-six-years-finding-fame.html
OrangeCrusher1 said... 120
''#dontsayIdidntwarnyou''
''This is for Jon, not her adoring fans. He crossed HER line again, dared to get real lawyers and forced her to take her ludicrous lawsuit away. She is beyond help IMO.''
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I logged on to say the very same thing! Once again, most of us see right straight through TFMJG and into her evil mind/heart!! !!!!!!
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Wow! You're right! When read in that context it is very very chilling!
OrangeCrusher1 said... 120
''#dontsayIdidntwarnyou''
''This is for Jon, not her adoring fans. He crossed HER line again,
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I didn't really process this at first. She can't be THAT evil can she? Cross me and I'll make you SORRY, Jon? Wow!
Such irony that Alexis was the break out star of the sextuplets for lack of a better word as she was absolutely the #1 fan favorite and now that she is out of the public eye she has been reduced to a rabid animal? So much for thinking that M&C were going along with TFW to help protect the little kids. As she has made it clear that anyone who watches them has he right to punish them it sounds like the kids or at least a couple of them have it far worse than anyone could have ever imagined. When I used to watch the show, I always commented that Alexis was the one who was always smiling and that Collin was the one who could work things out and wanted to help, and now they are ostracized from the group? How horrible. The twins sounds are now TWF's mini-me's. God save the children.
I agree that the comments about Alexis are worse than the comments about Jon. At least Jon is a grown adult who can take his concerns to family law court, ask for certain orders, and stand up for himself when parental alienation is going on. He is an adult that is able to understand those comments were not made in a vacuum, and were most likely heavily influenced by Kate. Alexis is a helpless little girl who is powerless to do anything or has the capacity to understand these comments on any there level but hurtful.
Shame on Kate for teaching her children that it's okay to trash your little sister at all, much less to millions of readers. Rather if Alexis is as wild as they claim, she should be teaching them patience and understanding. There are likely good reasons she is so wild. Could be something going on like ADHD, could be her upbringing, could be being upset about something. Shame on those twins. If they want to moan and groan about her at home that's their business but in public is unforgivable. How would they feel if Alexis does that to them in a few year's time?
They should be brought up as protectors of their younger siblings, not rivals. Especially when it comes to the media.
in his recent interview with Philly Magazine HE contradicted your timeline.
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All he said was he went out all night when he always would come home at night obviously. He said nothing about dating or women. People actually can go out all night and not be having sex. You added that interpretation. There is nothing contradictory about it.
Alexis was definitely a fan favorite for some creepy reason who knows. They always ask about Alexis first and then after her the "glasses baby" Aaden. Something about those glasses I guess.
Maybe that's why they marginalize Alexis so much, the ole jealousy thing.
rainbowsandunicorns said... 16
I am also concerned about the dog. She should be made to sit outside and see how she likes spending brutally cold days outdoors. That dog should be taken away from her.
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I completely agree. Not only Shoka, but the fish, the bird and any artificial plants she may have in the house as well. She couldn't stand the chilly weather in Alaska, but it's okay to leave the dog out there in the coldest recorded weather? That bitch!
I'm not going to allow a bunch of bickering about what should and shouldn't be said about the children here. It's not really productive and some people cannot do it without lecturing and insulting the posters here.
I and my staff will make the call what comments get posted about the kids. If you don't see your comment that's why. If you see something posted you don't like, you can email us.
Perhaps in the summer we'll get Shoka and Zorro's take on things.
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Followed by Kate and the chickens on the cover. I bet they hate Jon too, especially that 6 month period where he decided he is a warm blooded man who wanted to date again and find something different than a broken and unhappy marriage. This is the face of a shocked and appalled chicken:
http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6157/6165528911_407d8e2173_z.jpg
Kate's tweet:
Even Zorro is willing 2 help w/ after dinner clean up! I found him 'helping' Mady load the dishwasher! Love our bird! pic.twitter.com/Mw0XCPZlvl
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Folks who know birds, is that a good idea? It doesn't seem like it.
Speechless about the article and interviews. There's no respect in that family--not mother to child, not child to mother, and no one to the pets. Kate may be smug now, but she has not yet begun to get her comeuppance when those girls get another year or two on them. They've learned by example how to be spoiled, get their way, have a smart mouth... Disney Channel? I don't think so. Everyone will be screaming at each other there soon if they aren't already.
Speechless about the article and interviews. There's no respect in that family--not mother to child, not child to mother, and no one to the pets. Kate may be smug now, but she has not yet begun to get her comeuppance when those girls get another year or two on them. They've learned by example how to be spoiled, get their way, have a smart mouth.
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Yes exactly. Let her be smug. It's easy to be smug when they are 9 and 13. Try being smug when they are 20 and 16. This will backfire, it's only a matter of time. Like I said years later even if the kids feel exactly the same as they do now they still aren't going to like being used by their mother. Few people would like that.
I have alway found the disrespect sad. A sibling is a special thing. It is more special for these kids, because so few kids out there understand being celebrity children and what's more being a high order multiple. At the end of the day, only these kids really understand what they have been through. They will need each other. Someday Jon and Kate will be long gone and they will be their only link to their bizarre childhoods, whether they feel good about that time or not. Will there be tension, division and animosity among them, or will they be close? Because the way it's going it's going to be quite dysfunctional. And that is sad, since no one else is really going to understand. I sympathize and empathize, sure, but how could I REALLY understand? Or anyone?
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 15m
Even Zorro is willing 2 help w/ after dinner clean up! I found him 'helping' Mady load the dishwasher! Love our bird! pic.twitter.com/Mw0XCPZlvl
The picture shows Zorro perching on one of the dishwasher racks. To me this just seems like an accident waiting to happen. I hope they don't forget to check that Zorro isn't IN the dishwasher when the close it.
Also, I see several of those plastic divided trays in the dishwasher. Those kids who are going to be 10 in four months are still using those trays?
The only kid that I see eat off one of those trays is my granddaughter, but then she is only 2 years old.
Kate seems to want the twins to grow up fast, and to keep the sextuplets from growing at all.
Yep, her kids are "normal".
I don't think you have to have a bird to know that's not a good idea! You just have to have a brain.
Cat Story said... 19
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What a neat thing to see. It's not often you see a cat rushing to its owner. Hope they have a warm place to sleep.
Auntieann: I feel very sorry for that dog. My 2 freeloaders(lovingly put),are house dogs, with it being -15 out my dogs went out and did their stuff and came right back in. I did put coats on them, but even with the coats on, both were limping, from the cold, they were only out their for about 5 min. That dog is outside, cause Kate has a new toy, that bird. Kate just posted a pic of the bird sitting on the open dish washer door. This means, that the bird has flying freedom in the house. Remember the dog supposedly killed some chickens and ate a rat, that bird would be no different to the dog.
Kates latest game is backfiring. I saw the ET! piece, and the woman co-host said don't do it(as in another reality show). Kate you just proved what Jon said about your kids to be true. The way those girls talked, an bashed one of the 6 pk, this as I posted earlier, smells of Kate talk & brainwashing. Kate is truely immature. What a tool! All to get back on TV!
I don't know too many happily married men who go out for the evening not intending to come home, sex or no sex.
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He wasn't happily married. That's the point. And you have no idea what happened that night as Jon never elaborated. I can foresee plenty of guys calling an old high school buddy to commiserate, have a beer, play pool all night, and crash. No sex about it. You are imagining scenarios where he had a wild orgy that are not based on any truth.
I don't really care what your point is or isn't, I'm just saying you can stop gleefully saying that Jon contradicted the general story we've heard, because he did not. He has always maintained he never cheated on Kate unit she gave the go ahead that the marriage was over. He further elaborated recently that the moment he knew it was over was that night he went out and she didn't even care. That is nothing contradictory about that. It makes perfect sense. Perhaps the next morning was when the "it's over you're free to date" conversation actually occurred.
Well....Im so glad they asked 2 of the kids, 2 well-grounded, stable and child-psychology-trained teens, who btw still live under one roof with their mom, who of course has absolutely no influence on what they think and say of their dad and of their life, if their life is damaged by being on tv. And Im so glad that we all know the real truth now....that the answer is of course no, they are not damaged, they are fine, yankee-doodle fine....now we can all sit back, breath a sigh of relief, drink this Koolaid and believe this pile of nonsense!
I've had over six years of experience with parental alienators. I don't know what's going on, but I feel like these kind of people are increasing, not decreasing. I think it's because our system encourages contentious divorce battles and does not do enough to educate parents on how harmful this can be to the kids. I can only speak from this experience. I was optimistic about them in the beginning. I thought there are things we could do to help protect the kids and get the alienator to change. I have to tell you this now. When it is as severe as Kate, there is no stopping it. There is no reasoning with them. There is no court order they will follow. There is only one way to stop it: a no contact order and turning over full custody to the non-alienating parent. And it's been done to alienator parents here in CA and it's been upheld by the higher courts.
I'm not suggesting this be done to Kate, however I'm just saying it's the only way I've seen it stopped. Less severe (which is NOT Kate, she is SEVERE), therapy helps.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 11m
@Kateplusmy8 Tell M & C that I can really show them #annoying...let them listen 2my southern drawl & my poetry all day long! U think? :)
Milo, nobody has to "listen" to you in person at all. You show everyone, every time you tweet that you and Kate are both made out of the same annoying mold.
I guess Milo doesn't care that she's annoying, and her family just puts up with it.
I wonder if the payout for this article is being split 3 ways or if it's another of Kate's "mine all mine" gigs.
I remember the good ole days of People. I remember a handful of years ago I was in the hospital which is the only time I read magazines these days lol, and read a People I found--it was a beautiful story they did about a regional center mother who gave birth to a gifted little girl. She desperately wanted to keep her child, I think this was in Chicago. So social services put all these services in place to help her do it. The child at the time of the story was about 13, top of her class in school, and adored her mom. All the social services people were interviewed and said the family did so well. It was a success story about keeping an unusual family together, a it takes a village story.
The contrast between that sweet and humble family and these Gosselin girls strikes me as glaring now. That was when People did stories that mattered. This story, with all due respect to the Gosselins, doesn't matter like that other story does.
All this is compelling me to offer up extra prayers for families in turmoil.
The topics the twins addressed are best discussed with a professional counselor or pastor, not an angry parent who can hardly be neutral.
That dog is outside, cause Kate has a new toy, that bird. Kate just posted a pic of the bird sitting on the open dish washer door. This means, that the bird has flying freedom in the house. Remember the dog supposedly killed some chickens and ate a rat, that bird would be no different to the dog.
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The dog has always been an outside dog since Day One. I'm not so sure that the dog, prior to the new bird coming into the house, ever had access to the ground floor. Have there been photos posted of him there? I know that she talked about him coming into the lower level where the kids have their playroom, but I don't think she ever mentioned him being where the bird now is...in the kitchen, and living areas.
So Mady and Cara talked. The door has been opened for everyone to comment on them. They will be subjected to vile, ugly comments from strangers. They will be treated differently by their peers. People can say anything they want because they are public figures. No longer are they allowed to hide behind their parents. By talking they can never close the door to have some privacy.
I logged on to say the very same thing! Once again, most of us see right straight through TFMJG and into her evil mind/heart!! !!!!!!
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Wow! You're right! When read in that context it is very very chilling!
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Some really smart, discerning people here. When I read that tweet, I didn't get it. I saw the "warned you" hashtag and couldn't understand what she meant because why would she warn fans? About what? There was no hint of this coming, so why would this be for the fans? She sneaked it in there for Jon.
(Leslie)
The kids and Kate keep saying (for the past 21/2 years) that they want to film again because they miss "the crew". Well, if by some very slim chance TLC was to film again did it ever occur to her kids that more than likely their "crew" would not be the same people they grew to miss. And if another network, again by some slim chance, decided to give them a reality tv show it would not be the same crew. It sounds like this kids are not aware of this in the least. And Kate said years ago that the crew had high turnover. So the crew that was left for "Kate Plus 8" was not the same crew "K&J Plus 8".
Excellent points made by others how they don't miss cousins, grandparents, aunts and uncles but they miss the crew. Beyond sad really. I think all this continued talk from Kate and her kids is throwing up big red flags to any potential producers would was even considering giving them a reality show. This article just shows the family has extreme division all through it. Not something producers want to take on.
It would be interesting to hear from someone who went to school with the kids talk about what it is like to see them on the covers of magazines and then have them as your classmates. I would think their peers would be somewhat jealous of them. Just curious about the dynamics. Kids are competitive and envious of others, especially if your peers are reality 'stars' like these kids. If I was 13 or 9, I might find myself being resentful of all the attention these kids were getting.
Shame on Kate for teaching her children that it's okay to trash your little sister at all, much less to millions of readers.
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This is a HUGE parenting no-no, and I mean in the privacy of your own home! But in People Magazine?! Kate is one big disaster zone.
And then there's doofus Milo, congratulating Kate on the girls' interview and Kate's parenting... all while sending messages to the twins via Twitter... PROUD even, that she sees herself as more annoying than Kate. I wish Kate and Milo could be dropped off together on a deserted island. Preferably one that's underwater.
Hey, Milo, o great animal lover! What do you have to say about your idol leaving her pet outside in these temperatures? Would you do that with your dogs, Jack and Katie Irene (*snicker* at the name). Seriously, would you? I'd like to hear Milo's defense on it.
As here's the sad rub - Cara and Mady would never have 'talked' if not for the evil machinations of their biotch mother. And the equally evil Kate Coyne and her staff who can also take the blame for this shameful exploitation. Let Kate and Jon have at each other, but she has really gone too far this time. I cannot wait for karma to strike her, and I hope it strikes back hard.
The kids and Kate keep saying (for the past 21/2 years) that they want to film again because they miss "the crew". Well, if by some very slim chance TLC was to film again did it ever occur to her kids that more than likely their "crew" would not be the same people they grew to miss.
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Yes exactly what I said. As expected, crews are a revolving door of people. As we could even see, this crew was like most crews. They were 20-30 something hipsters, almost all men. Most likely they have aspirations to work their way up. They all, if they are even still in that business, have moved up to a bigger network or project or position, or are committed to other projects or living in LA or NY now. The odds you could even find 10% of your original crew is slim. Heck this is true of many industries. Say you started up an old restaurant again after being closed three years. Who in their right mind would expect all the same staff to show up? That's ridiculous.
With the exception of maybe the lead producer and director, who might be back, everyone else is probably going to be a new face.
Some really smart, discerning people here. When I read that tweet, I didn't get it. I
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Yes they are. When I read that tweet I thought that was an awfully odd thing to say but I sort of brushed it off like well it's Kate she's odd what else is new.
So many things make sense now. I even said after Jon's interview I feel like we're missing a piece of the puzzle. This is that missing piece.
I also want to compliment those who picked up on Kate's veiled threat to Jon in her hashtag. Really great catch. Terrifying woman.
Milo, I doooon't think you reciting poetry is the main reason your family finds you annoying. Just a hunch.
Milo sounds like one of Jerry Seinfeld's many ex girlfriends. They always have something about them that is weird and makes him break up with them. I can foresee one of the ex's likes to recite poetry at random times.
Even so, when a kid says their mom is annoying usually it's because "mom always asks me who I'm talking to, where I am, how much homework I have--uggh!" Not freakish stuff like a poetry recitation in the middle of the day.
(Leslie)
A terrible thought just popped into my mind. We know that People magazine will be in many, many homes of schoolmates of the 8 Gosselin kids.
How sad will it be if and when one or more of the school kids tease Alexis about the ugly names that her sibling called her. It is just heartbreaking. It will only take one kid. It may not be this week but more than likely these names will be used against Alexis. Heck, maybe even by her other siblings in her home. I have a feeling that those two names will come to haunt Alexis for a long time. And she will have only her Mother to thank for that. Shame on Kate.
By talking they can never close the door to have some privacy. 51
These children never had any privacy and have no hope of gaining any.
Shame on both their parents, but Katie in particular for allowing this travesty of an interview.
I don't normally like to put blame on journalists because they're just the messenger. But Kate Coyne needs to do some soul searching here. Number one is this REALLY journalism and REALLY a story? I think most journalists would agree this is not even tabloid journalists. Number two, are you really being a journalist when you actively help aide and abet dysfunctional parental alienation in a family? Journalism ethics says you are not to involve yourself in the story like that or appear to take sides as her articles ALWAYS do. Journalism ethics also has strict guidelines when interviewing children. Usually it was, just don't do it. I don't recall anything about it being okay to ask a child private questions about a divorce and dating.
Milo sounds like one of Jerry Seinfeld's many ex girlfriends.
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Mulva?
Oh wait... Milo just defended it. Really, Milo??? You love dogs, but you love Kate more. I guess we could say, Milo likes dogs, but she LIKES LIKES Kate. Milo knows that Shoka "always" stays indoors at night how exactly? She is a nutcase. I'm convinced, there's nothing Kate can do that Milo can't excuse and defend.
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 13h
Shoka's not happy staying indoors d/t extreme cold temps!Prob solved:Got heated dog bed 4 pampered pup so he can patrol his land a lil more!
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 17m
@Kateplusmy8 Totally get Shoka's love of his outdoor paradise there! He's got room 2roam & play...oblivious 2the cold. Mine R frisky here!
mscatie @mscatie 9m
@MiloandJack @Kateplusmy8 It's 20 degrees in Reading. I doubt Shoka is oblivious to extreme cold & ALL media is reporting to keep pets in.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 2m
@mscatie @Kateplusmy8 LOL..I was referring to his normal routine in the daytime..Shoka ALWAYS stays in the house at night! #NiceAndWarm :)
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 21m
@Kateplusmy8 Totally get Shoka's love of his outdoor paradise there! He's got room 2roam & play...oblivious 2the cold. Mine R frisky here!
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 21m
@Kateplusmy8 Totally get Shoka's love of his outdoor paradise there! He's got room 2roam & play...oblivious 2the cold. Mine R frisky here!
mscatie @mscatie 13m
@MiloandJack @Kateplusmy8 It's 20 degrees in Reading. I doubt Shoka is oblivious to extreme cold & ALL media is reporting to keep pets in.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 6m
@mscatie @Kateplusmy8 LOL..I was referring to his normal routine in the daytime..Shoka ALWAYS stays in the house at night! #NiceAndWarm :)
And Milo knows this how?
I also want to compliment those who picked up on Kate's veiled threat to Jon in her hashtag. Really great catch. Terrifying woman.
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I don't know which would be more annoying or terrifying...living with Kate, or living with Milo. One thing for sure is that I am thankful that I will never have to find out.
Kate now say Zorro is potty trained. I think I'll pour myself something very large and strong.
HuffPost just picked up the People article. The comments are mostly negative, mixed with a few who people who think Kate has to be tough because she has 8 kids. It frustrates me to no end that people still believe that because the tups were born 6 at one time, they should be subjected to a military/reform school upbringing.
I liked this comment from someone named Sarah:
I would like to know what person thinks a 13 year old would 1.) admit that they are having problems because of their childhood fame, and 2.) Would do so while sitting next to the mother who kept trotting them out in front of cameras.
I really should stop thinking about TFMJG and her horrid behavior because it is so personally upsetting and frustrating, but I just can't stop thinking about those poor children.
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I think you're asking yourself to stop caring about the kids, and I don't know if that's possible for most people who have stayed here this long. Sure we have lots of fun, but the bottom line is we care about these kids and what happens them. It's hard to just look away.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 8m
@Kateplusmy8 Shoka is a pampered dog! Gets more TLC than he can handle. He recently got a nice new fluffy & BIG doggy bed! :) #WhatALife
She is an idiot. A total idiot. Milo, you were the one who kept tweeting Kate about the dangerously low temperatures, and now you have the balls to say that Shoka is pampered and gets so much TLC. He's OUTSIDE!
I wonder if there's a therapist who would offer a group discount for both Milo and Kate, or at least one who would accept coupons.
If this article was the "good things coming" that Kate referred to in her tweet, I guess she thinks it's good that on almost every site that has posted about this article, people in the comments are calling Mady a "bitch" and a "brat".
Yeah, Kate, that's really a "good thing", that now your daughters once again being called names.
I hope your happy. Is their next interview going to be with BV about how they are being bullied? They only have you to thank for that.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 2m
@mscatie @Kateplusmy8 LOL..I was referring to his normal routine in the daytime..Shoka ALWAYS stays in the house at night! #NiceAndWarm :)
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Milo, our daytime temperature this week was one degree. ONE, with a windchill of 30 below zero. Just because it's daytime doesn't mean that this kind of temperature can't cause frostbite in both humans and animals. One degree is one degree regardless if it's at night or during the day. Can anyone really be this stupid? She has a long way to go before she's even a candidate for the Double Digit Club.
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Kate now say Zorro is potty trained. I think I'll pour myself something very large and strong.
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Why change previous methods of potty-training/throw away a perfectly good plastic spoon? It worked for TFMJG when the kids were little so it should work for her animals.
Saw these comments on one of the sites carrying the story and thought it says it all.
I'll bet if asked a 13 year old Lindseu Lohan would have said that she was fine too.
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Charlie Sheen thinks he is fine too. It isn't always about how great you think you are.
Sleepless In Seattle said... 71
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 8m
@Kateplusmy8 Shoka is a pampered dog! Gets more TLC than he can handle. He recently got a nice new fluffy & BIG doggy bed! :) #WhatALife
She is an idiot. A total idiot. Milo, you were the one who kept tweeting Kate about the dangerously low temperatures, and now you have the balls to say that Shoka is pampered and gets so much TLC. He's OUTSIDE!
I wonder if there's a therapist who would offer a group discount for both Milo and Kate, or at least one who would accept coupons.
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Absolutely. Milo is a nut, just certifiable. This is a woman (?) who repeatedly and regularly claims to adore dogs. But Shoka is just a pawn like the kids. Milo ONLY has eyes for Kate.
I agree with you, too, Sleepless, that she's as terrifying as Kate. I just picture someone who stays in bed all day in greasy clothes with Kate pin-ups and Kate wallpaper on her computer screen and crumbs all over and.... oh, gross.
Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said... 68
Kate now say Zorro is potty trained. I think I'll pour myself something very large and strong.
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Yeah right. Wait til he shits in her salad. He'll be roasted for supper and shared among eight hungry kids.
Kate and Potty Trained Zorro...
How old is Zorro? It's really unusual to find a parrot under the age of a year and a half to be potty trained. Yes, it can be done. But you'll usually find this with the larger species, the Grey, Amazon, Macaw, Cockatoo, not with birds the size of Zorro. IF the bird is potty trained, it may have learned this at the store. Potty training takes a lot of work, experience, and knowledge of bird's bathroom habits. There is no way in the world that Kate could have done this. Can you see her holding a waste can at his butt and knowing what commands to give him so that he will poop?
A potty-trained parrot will almost always have accidents. I can guarantee it.
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Kate now say Zorro is potty trained. I think I'll pour myself something very large and strong.
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Did she force him to sit on the bottom of the cage in the dark until he produced?
Yesterday I felt so bad...my poor bichon was shivering. Apparently the heater could not keep up. Plus her sweater caught in a throw ru so she couldn't curl up. She was INSIDE with a sweater on! I cranked the heat and wrapped her in a blanket. No dog should be out in his.
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Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said... 68
Kate now say Zorro is potty trained. I think I'll pour myself something very large and strong.
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Did she force him to sit on the bottom of the cage in the dark until he produced?
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I certainly hope Zorro doesn't find the bag of potty training treat millet and sneak some.
God help him if he does.
Are there any adult fans (not the giddy immature teens) who actually have some critical thinking ability who would dare call her out on this latest stunt? Or are all of them so far up her butt that they wouldn't dare do such a thing?
This is in response to someone's comment about Zorro shitting on the dishes while posed on the dishwasher.
@Kateplusmy8: @Xxxxxxxx no, oddly he's potty trained. Waits til he's in his cage or on his tree. I'm not kidding.
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TFW truly is the bird whisperer. Maybe she can get a show where she goes around and helps people with their troubled parrots. She's "for the birds" anyway so it would be appropriate.
Virginia said, 76 -- "I agree with you, too, Sleepless, that she's as terrifying as Kate. I just picture someone who stays in bed all day in greasy clothes with Kate pin-ups and Kate wallpaper on her computer screen and crumbs all over and.... oh, gross."
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and...empty beer cans and cigarette butts in paper cups that are used as ashtrays?
Hi KyPastor! It's very nice to read your voice!
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 14h
@lulu2465 I texted a friend last pm: 'I did not sign up2live in Antarctica.where on the globe r the heat warnings? I'm moving there.' #sigh
Neither did Shoka. She admits that it's cold, and yet that beautiful dog is outside.
By the way, It's been warmer in Antarctica than it was here this week.
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 14h
@lulu2465 I texted a friend last pm: 'I did not sign up2live in Antarctica.where on the globe r the heat warnings? I'm moving there.' #sigh
Neither did Shoka. She admits that it's cold, and yet that beautiful dog is outside.
By the way, It's been warmer in Antarctica than it was here this week
People Magazine is right down there with TLC in its use and abuse of minors. So sad for Alexis to be publically labelled in such a horrid fashion by her older sister and with her mother's approval. Kate is guilty of parental alienation and sibling alienation.
WIth respect to the girls "missing" the crew, I think the reality is that they miss having a crew at their beck and call. Was Steve not referred to as a "servant" in one of the road trip episodes? Kate is raising these kids to have an unhealthy sense of entitlement. Future prima donnas in the making. Just so, so sad.
People Magazine is right "down" there with TLC with respect to use and abuse of minors. So sad that Alexis is publically labelled in such horrid fashion by her sister, with the approval of her mother. Kate is guilty of parental alienation and sibling alienation.
With respect to the girls "missing" the crew - I think the reality is that they miss having a crew at their beck and call. Wasn't Steve referred to as a "servant" in one of the road trip episodes? These children are being raised with an unhealthy sense of entitlement. Two prima donnas in the making. So, so sad.
NJ Gal, I just wanted to say your avatar of the sand snow man is just darling!
TFMJG is still boring, just in a nasty way. I feel even more sorry for all those kids.
Oh poor bichon! My dog wears a lot of sweaters in the winter because our nights get chilly and he shivers in anything below 55. I've also taken him back East many times, he's been in temperatures as cold as 9 degrees so a winter wardrobe is a must. I would recommend though always take off any clothes when you leave them alone or go to bed. I've left him alone in a sweater on a chilly morning and when I got home he had worked one leg through the neckline and couldn't walk or move. This was a sweater that fit him just fine, so who knows how he did it. Like a kid, they manage strange things. So take those sweaters off and instead lay out a few old cozy fleece blankets. If they get really chilly they'll crawl under and fleece doesn't pick up dog hair.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 38
Speechless about the article and interviews. There's no respect in that family--not mother to child, not child to mother, and no one to the pets. Kate may be smug now, but she has not yet begun to get her comeuppance when those girls get another year or two on them. They've learned by example how to be spoiled, get their way, have a smart mouth.
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Yes exactly. Let her be smug. It's easy to be smug when they are 9 and 13. Try being smug when they are 20 and 16. This will backfire, it's only a matter of time. Like I said years later even if the kids feel exactly the same as they do now they still aren't going to like being used by their mother. Few people would like that.
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After reading this, and I have always thought this, but it goes along with my line of thinking. Just wait until those girls are 16 and have a driver's license. I can bet my last dollar that they are both going to want expensive sports cars. I mean why can mom have one, but not them? They earned the money after all, not her.
I really do feel that once they hit 16 that there will be a whole other story going on here and will be played out.
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Kate is guilty of parental alienation and sibling alienation.
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I've never heard or seen much sibling alienation and yet isn't that what she's doing?
I have no idea WHY though. My best guess is a divide and conquer thing. It's better to create as much turmoil and division as possible. That way they can never band together and figure out they should look to YOU as the root of the problem.
And also I think she likes playing sick games like that and creating conflict among others. I really think she enjoys seeing other people worked up with each other.
I really do feel that once they hit 16 that there will be a whole other story going on here and will be played out.
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Yes definitely. Look, 16 is a whole other story for almost EVERY child. Hardly any kids are the same at 16 as they were at 13. It is the time in your life where you become a completely different person, it's a wild ride. They will not be the same people they are now, this moment in time is so fleeting. Enjoy it while you can Kate.
The money thing I think LAP is going to be a huge rubber meets the road moment for them. They are either going to be okay that a good portion of their money was blown while they worked away their childhoods, or they're not. I'm guessing most young people who are fascinated with the idea of being able to have some money they earned and spend it on the things they want, would be pretty angry about this.
They are going to look at their bank accounts and see a certain number. And they're going to ask questions about how much was actually earned. They are going to find out that TLC never even paid the kids until the state of PA intervened and MADE THEM. They're going to find out the number in those accounts even if a big one, could have been much, much larger if TLC paid them and if their parents and in particular their mother had not blown it on things like the huge house sports cars personal upkeep and the other things we've talked about so much here.
They are going to want things that Kate bought for herself when the money was rolling in, and they are going to find that the money may not be enough for those same things. And they're going to want to know how that is fair, because it's not.
If there is one thing that will make them change their tune on this it will be over the money. Just like Missy Francis. They are just way too young at this point to be asking all the questions they need to ask about it and way too young to understand there is a big problem here.
Kate probably tells them oh don't worry kids it's in your trust see look look at this huge number you're RICH! When you're 13, even ten grand sounds like a ton of money. When you're 13 you don't process that mom got all her toys and the house and upkeep with YOUR paycheck. When you're 13 you don't know enough to do the math to see if the numbers are adding up versus all the work you did.
ANY and ALL interviews, photo-shoots, TV segments, etc. must require BOTH parent's approval BEFOREHAND. Preferably, I think these things should be prohibited completely. A judge needs to make a ruling so TFW can't get away with constantly dragging her kids into the public eye. This would include using their names and likenesses on any product, including cookbooks, magazine covers and websites like her blog. ______________________________________
Well, as admin points out a lot, Jon is more than capable of going to a judge and presenting this to him. He can't say he doesn't have the money, especially after doing a season of a reality show.
So why doesn't he? It's clear she's emotionally and mentally abusing the kids. Jon, you suck for not stepping up here!
Even though TFW needed to be on meds for her mental illness, or mental illnesses from the get go, it is NOW that she needs to be evaluated for her mental issues. She is a loose cannon that has went boom boom boom the last couple of months, shooting and destroying everything in her cross hairs. The stress, HURT AND SHAME that she has put on A and C is abominable. The People cover is BLOOD MONEY and has made me sick today. I am not joking. I can not imagine the hatred Jon has for kate doing the kids like this.
Someone posted that kate was promiscuous before Jon. I agree with that. Pregnant by 17, had an abortion, possibly dated before the boyfriend she moved in with and his family. Did she meet Jon while she was living with the boyfriend? She then saw Jon at the picnic and Jon was with another girl. She chose Jon because he was Asian (they would stand out more above regular babies) because of her master plan to get the public to pay for her multiples that she was planning. She was obsessed with the McCauley babies because they were showered with gifts, cash, everything they needed to raise the children. Corporations clamored over each other to provide for them.
I am so proud of the McCauley's for raising the kids the way they did. They were grateful for the help but also helped out others and gave away what they didn't need anymore. TFW is a hoarder. She hoards the gifts the fans send, the good ones and sells her kids clothes that were given to her for free at the consignment shop. I wonder if the shop had to sign a confidentiality agreement. I wouldn't put it past her.
IIRC, wasn't TFW upset that she didn't have more when M and C were born? How would M and C feel about that?? She managed to convince Jon to just to try to have ONE MORE! I remember Jon saying that he was happy with his family. Well, she went to two different doctors, without them even realizing it and with the help of the out of the country medicine shot got her wish.
Remember she over stimulating her ovaries so bad that she had to be hospitalized? Then the dr. told her not to have relations and she did it as soon as she possibly could. Jon didn't have a clue right then what she was doing. Then she has 7, then unfortunately, one did not make it. She should of never told the kids about it so young or even told them at all. Then she named the poor thing. To put that on her kids is wrong.
Back in 2009 during the divorce, the judge in this case should of appointed an guardian ad litem for the kids, placed a GAG order for Jon and TFW both until each child was 18 years old. They could not talk about the kids in media form as in parent alienation/sibling alienation like that STUPID FAME WHORE HAS DONE! And the crème de la crème, have the judge court order kate to relinquish the name GOSSELIN. She doesn't own it anymore.
I hope it is not true about the theory that maybe Robert was paid off. He was pretty aggressive in his taunting, and that might of pushed TFW over the edge of shutting him up for good. But I think there is hope because the gosselin book blog is still up and is available for media inquiries.
This is perhaps the saddest day of so many sad days we have had the misfortune of missing. How anyone can defend this blatant exploitation is beyond me. I think that any time TFW can put the focus on JOn's post divorce behavior, she thinks is a win. First a lawsuit that focused on that time period. Now, the girls are recalling that time. That was the last time public opinion swung in her favor. This really makes me wonder how she got this way. She is an aberration of what a mother should do--clearly the mission to parentify the twins has been accomplished.
Carole, how did you get Kate's mortgage info? Seems you have details not public?
The deed with mortgage info is public information on the Berks County Recorder of Deeds website. Property tax info w/the farm/clean & green exemptions are also public information and are available on the Berks County Assessor's page.
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Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 2m
@mscatie @Kateplusmy8 LOL..I was referring to his normal routine in the daytime..Shoka ALWAYS stays in the house at night! #NiceAndWarm :)
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Milo, our daytime temperature this week was one degree. ONE, with a windchill of 30 below zero. Just because it's daytime doesn't mean that this kind of temperature can't cause frostbite in both humans and animals. One degree is one degree regardless if it's at night or during the day. Can anyone really be this stupid? She has a long way to go before she's even a candidate for the Double Digit Club.
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Thank you for pointing that out, PA Dutch!! That says it all. Indefensible, Milo.
Kate is a cruel and bitter woman. Before millions, she managed to publicly humiliate Alexis and display the twins' brattiness and entitlement (which will come back to haunt them). And she abused her dog on a day where the rest of the civilized world knows animals should be inside... and even bragged about it. (Hey, Milo, if there's a dog bed outside, Shoka's napping and sleeping in the cold, not just "patrolling.")
Let's see, she can check off abusing three children and one animal, plus continued abuse of ex-husband--and getting publicity for all of it--in just one day. Kate must have gone to bed feeling VERY satisfied.
Wait, Kate. Wait. The nastiness the twins showed about your cropped top? That's only the beginning. They're still young enough to be partly controlled by you. Your karma will be 8 poorly raised teenagers. Your REAL trouble is getting closer... dirty diapers and stomach bugs will be nothing!
I've never heard or seen much sibling alienation and yet isn't that what she's doing?
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I don't know what it's called either but my mother did (and still does) pit us against one another. She'll bitch and moan and gossip about one sibling to the other, favors another (praises them to the UNfavored ones) and then denies she said anything after she's caused turmoil. Some of us let it go because for the most part it's always lies. Others get very angry and it's fuel for drama. She's insane,(and evil, I'm convinced) that's all. Don't try to understand it, don't think she can ever SEE the damaged lives she's responsible for, and don't ever EVER think there will be remorse.
And also I think she likes playing sick games like that and creating conflict among others. I really think she enjoys seeing other people worked up with each other.
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Yes. And then "Little old me? I didn't do anything"
Also they are very conniving, it's so subtle and just enough manipulation that those kids don't see that SHE's the one instigating the shit. Wait ,WAIT til they're teens! They still won't see it's HER, but they will be fighting like rabid dogs. When you grow up in violence, with threats, with punishment, with a mother who flies off the handle and solves conflict with MORE conflict, with anger, with physical abuse...you actually think they will resolve issues in a different way?? AND she thinks they won't call her on her bullshit? Like I said, just wait. Remember her throwing the girls stuff down the stairs? She actually did that for the cameras? Remember her fit about the basement being a mess and her freakout? THAT is tame to how they've seen her react to anything that stresses her. There will be stuff flying and thrown around X8, that's EIGHT!
Well, as admin points out a lot, Jon is more than capable of going to a judge and presenting this to him. He can't say he doesn't have the money, especially after doing a season of a reality show.
So why doesn't he? It's clear she's emotionally and mentally abusing the kids. Jon, you suck for not stepping up here!
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Maybe he has tried. Since Family Court records are sealed there's no way to know what he's done.
Potty training takes a lot of work, experience, and knowledge of bird's bathroom habits. There is no way in the world that Kate could have done this.
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But but but, she's given such wonderful potty training tips before! She's sooo knowledgeable about this subject! So qualified that herds of idiots ask her advice.
Yeah, she's a whisperer alright, a bullshit whisperer.
The dog has always been an outside dog since Day One. I'm not so sure that the dog, prior to the new bird coming into the house, ever had access to the ground floor. Have there been photos posted of him there? I know that she talked about him coming into the lower level where the kids have their playroom, but I don't think she ever mentioned him being where the bird now is...in the kitchen, and living areas.
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I don't think Shoka has ever been anywhere on the main floor of the house other than in the entry way for a few minutes to get a treat and a few hugs (and of course have a pic taken so she could post it on twitter) and then shown the door again. I don't think he's spent any time in the basement since he was kept in a cage there with Nala.
''This is for Jon, not her adoring fans. He crossed HER line again,
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Admin said... I didn't really process this at first. She can't be THAT evil can she? Cross me and I'll make you SORRY, Jon? Wow!
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Of course she is! This sickens me but it doesn't surprise me in the least. She's always been vindictive and vengeful and we're just seeing what steps she'll take to carry it out if/when he dares to fight back and WIN.
Oh wait... Milo just defended it. Really, Milo??? You love dogs, but you love Kate more. I guess we could say, Milo likes dogs, but she LIKES LIKES Kate.
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Well tfw IS the bitch of all bitches, the queen bitch let's say. Milo has to bow down to her highness at the expense of other bitches. Much like the queen of heart's subjects in Alice in Wonderland.
"The girls would also not mind doing reality TV again. 'We miss the crew, the people we saw every day,' said Cara. 'We'd love to do it again.'"
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How many times have we heard this before? I'm sure they do miss the crew because the *Crew* (any crew) means fancy and exciting trips, first class accommodations, special treatment, priority handling, 'servants', fancy dinners, attention and more attention. Jon said it best with one word; entitled.
I don't know too many happily married men who go out for the evening not intending to come home, sex or no sex.
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Because he "wasn't" happily married? Because he was isolated from friends and family for YEARS. Because he was a victim of spousal abuse, narcissistic abuse...would you say the same if it was a WOMAN in this situation?
AuntieAnn said... 64
Milo sounds like one of Jerry Seinfeld's many ex girlfriends.
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Classic!
I thought this was just snark about.a TFW lookalike but this person tweeted another time about Lancaster
@g00dbyesounds: Oh looks like kate gosselin from Jon and Kate plus 8 just cut me in line for mcdonalds.
Now Kate seems happy, no downright GIDDY to let two thirteen year old children trash their father on the cover of what is considered the most popular magazine in America.....it literally makes me feel nauseous...and she is a mentally ill individual.
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Yes! She's doing cartwheels! Those kids were conceived to be her pawns, period. She does not have any motherly instincts whatsoever.
She is justified in EVERY.SINGLE.THING.SHE.DOES. She sees absolutely NOTHING wrong in what she's done, and that's some scary shit. SCARY...people have said she's a sociopath?? I'm beginning to agree. Ariel Castro also felt justified.
I've never heard or seen much sibling alienation and yet isn't that what she's doing?
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It is ber common for child advisers to target one or two children. I've read about cases of severe abuse and neglect of one child while the rest are treated normally
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I really don't think that money is her motivation anyomore. She just wants a spotlight on her. She truly believes she is someone special, someone who deserves adulation, the "star' treatment. If you go back to when we first had the "pleasure" of knowing her? The sleeping in, the coffee made to her strict standards, the post it notes, the hundreds of volunteers...in her mind she truly thinks she is deserving of this.
"God Complex"
'A pattern of traits and behaviours which signify infatuation and obsession with one's self to the exclusion of all others and the egotistic and ruthless pursuit of one's gratification, dominance and ambition.'
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Is "interpersonally exploitative", i.e., uses others to achieve his or her own ends
Devoid of empathy. Is unable or unwilling to identify with or acknowledge the feelings and needs of others.'
The people article came off as a 'setting the record straight' stunt. Something that Kate is very familiar with. That was a incredible dumb move as a parent. 13 years old is too young to make that kind if decision. What motivated them to 'come forward'? She is supposed to protect their privacy & let them be kids. It sounds like she fed ideas & lines to them. Did they make up a script beforehand? Preapproved questions? If Kate knew the questions ahead of time of course she may have had a hand into feeding the answers to the girls. Mady sounded exactly like Kate! I'm concerned they do not fully understand the ramifications by agreeing to opening up to a rag magazine. A counselor would be a better choice.
Suzy
"The teenagers, who posed for the weekly in white clothes wearing their brunette hair down Kardashian style, didn't hold back when talking about their famous mom to writer Kate Coyne"
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Seriously??? Kardashian style? wft?
"Luckily for the girls, they don't remember much of their parents' ugly split, but they do remember their father's string of lady loves."
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Oh yes, NOT the divorce, NOT the split BUT the string of lady loves is
REALLY what they remember
'I don't remember any of it. At all,' started Mady then changes her tune.
'Actually, the stuff I remember now is stuff that I didn't really see anything wrong with at the time... but now that I look back I can see, "Oh that wasn't a really good thing." Like girlfriends. Lots of girlfriends.'
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Then she changes her tune, almost like "Oh yeah, I forgot this memorized part" I can actually see the bitch mouthing the words to her.
The blonde also said, 'I wish they were a little more innocent in some ways.'
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And who's fault is that? JON'S of course.
It is ber common for child advisers to target one or two children. I've read about cases of severe abuse and neglect of one child while the rest are treated normally
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I think you meant "child abusers", right? :)
and yes, textbook
Poor Alexis-labelled from the beginning of her young life. Continues to be labeled. TOLD she is this or that...she will fulfill that prophecy.
She WILL become all things she's been told she is.
I have another thought about the twins. It seems to me that Kate, instead of being a parent, has turned the twins into her BFF's. Probably due to the fact that she has no friends or relatives that she can relate to. And the twins probably feed into this because it makes them feel special and they probably do not (and I'm just guessing) get to socialize that much with their peers due to the fact that Kate makes them feel that they are better or more special than their peers.
As far as the entitlement attitude of the twins, I witnessed that more than once in the show, especially the motorhome episode. They had terrible attitudes. Definitely not healthy, especially toward the other little boy. It is an ugly trait to feel so entitled as a child and not something you can easily remedy, especially when it has been spoon fed to you by your mother.
Marie
Good Morning everyone. Still here, still lurking WOS is still an Idiot. Sadly there is not enough alcohol one can drink to make sense out of what she is doing.
Just wanted to give an FYI. Robert has a new post up and he does discuss the book.
Whoever gave the inside info about the friend who's nephew was a crew member, thanks for the confirming what we all know.
McDonald's? Cutting in line? She must just raise her arms and the masses divide for her entrance.
KYPastor -- Nice to see you here. Sadly, I think your prayers, and the prayers of those of us who recognize TFMJG's abuse for what it is, is about the only thing those kids have going for them at the moment.
TFMJG has just thrown down the gauntlet. She's told Jon and the world that she will do anything and everything to destroy him, including using his kids against him, and she doesn't care if the kids are collateral damage. We've been saying it for 4 years+, but she's made it clearer than ever -- she hates Jon far more than she cares about her children. I was going to say, loves her children, but I don't think she's capable of loving.
I was sort of neutral about Jon appearing on CT before this story broke. I thought it was a big error in judgment on his part, but I didn't think there was much chance of the kids seeing the show. I've changed my mind. TFMJG will make sure that the kids, or at least the twins, know just exactly what he says and does on that show. I wouldn't be surprised if she made them watch it with her. She's just that sick.
Kate has ALWAYS promoted conflict among the children. Even in the early days of the show, it was obvious. She would always promote C as the oldest child even though she knew it upset M. She always subjugated the twins needs to the 6 younger ones. Her insistence on going by birth order with the 6 always left J at the tail end. She played blatant favorites with H. She's done her best to promote turmoil and rivalry and competition among them from the start. It's one way to keep them from banding together to challenge her.
TFW's County -- God bless you for your concern and care of those stray kitties. I wish all the poor abandoned strays out there had an angel like you in their corner. I haven't had time to read all of the comments yet, so sorry if this is a duplicate, but I nominate Thelma and Louise for their names.
Greedy G's -- It's unfair to call Jon out for not "going before a judge". The truth is, we don't know how many times he's tried to get a judge to put a stop to TFMJGs behavior. We know of at least once that he did -- When she took them to Australia, on HIS custody time, no less. The judge shot him down then. We don't know but what he's done it numerous times and been shot down each time. As Admin has pointed out, it becomes counter productive after a while.
Vanessa, you must be my sister. We must have had the same mother. Those kids will be constantly pitted against one another, all to get mommy's approval, and she encourages it. Someone here called it "Lord of the Flies" in that house. I couldn't agree more and we know, from experience, it's going to get a lot worse.
I disagree about the bullshit whisperer. She's a bullshit shrieker.
PJ
Localyocul said... 111
I thought this was just snark about.a TFW lookalike but this person tweeted another time about Lancaster
@g00dbyesounds: Oh looks like kate gosselin from Jon and Kate plus 8 just cut me in line for mcdonalds.
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Oh good Lord, if that's the McDonald's I think it is, that's too freaking close for comfort. I think I would just want to slap the snot out of her if I ever saw her.
Vanessa said... 118
It is ber common for child advisers to target one or two children. I've read about cases of severe abuse and neglect of one child while the rest are treated normally
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I think you meant "child abusers", right? :)
and yes, textbook
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Haha YES damn phone. And ber is "very"
'I don't remember any of it. At all,' started Mady then changes her tune.
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But she can remember life before the six came along? When she was less than 4 years old? And still resents the changes it brought?
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I really do feel that once they hit 16 that there will be a whole other story going on here and will be played out.
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Yes definitely. Look, 16 is a whole other story for almost EVERY child. Hardly any kids are the same at 16 as they were at 13. It is the time in your life where you become a completely different person, it's a wild ride. They will not be the same people they are now, this moment in time is so fleeting. Enjoy it while you can Kate
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My daughter is now 17. We have been divorced since she was a toddler. When she was 13, her new stepmother and her father enaged in behavior very much like TFW. The SM managed to brainwash my daughter, who I had always been close to, against me. She pretty much hated me and refused to cooperate with me. She was exactly their age, 7th grade. Around 9-10th grade she started seeing the light. She came back to me. Now at 17 she sees her sm for who she really is. By 16 those girls will hopefully see who their mom really is but Jon has to put in the work. I went to therapy with my daughter and worked on things. I just kept on being me though and didn't engage in retaliation. She just eventually matured and looked around.
It seems to me that Kate, instead of being a parent, has turned the twins into her BFF's. Probably due to the fact that she has no friends or relatives that she can relate to.
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tfw "thinks" the twins are her friends because she can still manipulate them. Look at the list of "friends" she's lost because of her treatment of them? You wise up to a naricissit eventually. When they finally realize she's the life sucking monster that she is, she will lose them too. OR one will continue to be her puppet.
@PJ-would love to have coffee with you:)
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I, too, am far more disturbed by Mady bashing Alexis than any Jon-bashing that happened during this interview. Kate claims that she wants to some kind of national spokesperson against bullying, sat right there and listened to her daughter bash Alexis and did not correct her or even step in to protect Alexis by asking that those comments not be printed. Apparently she was so giddy about making money off her kids again that she didn't mind hearing her little girl thrown under the bus.
Kate said she educates her kids about bullying, but her kids do it. What has she taught them? Why doesn't she correct them when they are the ones doing the bullying? It looks like she only cares about bullying if she perceives that it is being directed at her. She is completely lacking in maternal instincts.
Oh good Lord, if that's the McDonald's I think it is, that's too freaking close for comfort. I think I would just want to slap the snot out of her if I ever saw her.
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If there was anyone who needed a good bitch slap, it's her
Robert just released a statement on his site.
Just past a week into the new year and Kate has already done something to make Admin's TFWs Worst List for 2014.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 91
Oh poor bichon! My dog wears a lot of sweaters in the winter because our nights get chilly and he shivers in anything below 55. I've also taken him back East many times, he's been in temperatures as cold as 9 degrees so a winter wardrobe is a must. I would recommend though always take off any clothes when you leave them alone or go to bed. I've left him alone in a sweater on a chilly morning and when I got home he had worked one leg through the neckline and couldn't walk or move. This was a sweater that fit him just fine, so who knows how he did it. Like a kid, they manage strange things. So take those sweaters off and instead lay out a few old cozy fleece blankets. If they get really chilly they'll crawl under and fleece doesn't pick up dog hair
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She does well in her Penn State sweater but she had one on that velcros on her tummy. She must have lied down on the small throw rug and the velcro caught it. She greeted me at the kitchen gate shaking and dragging the rug. She does have a bed with blankets in her favorite corner. Problem is, that is the north wall and I think the wall was cold which is why she went to the other rug. I wrapped her up and held her in front of the fireplace. I have no idea how TFW can be so mean to a dog.
Also, the same day it was 3 degrees and windy. I had to go to a business with a buzzer and like an idiot I thought I would be only outside a little and didn't put my hat or gloves on. Well, their buzzer had stopped working due to the cold but I didn't know it. I stood out there for maybe 5 minutes. I had to go back to the car where I left my phone and when I got in my fingers were painfully frozen stiff. That would be how a dog's paws and ears would be out there.
Virginia Pen Mom said... 100
Wait, Kate. Wait. The nastiness the twins showed about your cropped top?
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I missed this, what did they say?
I agree with Vanessa (#112): TFW IS a sociopath. And unfortunately, Cara and Mady seem to be becoming snotty, pig-headed little brats, just like the woman who conceived them and gave birth to them. (I refuse to call that monstrosity of humanity a "mother".)
I just posted about Robert's latest update. I've never posted but in light of the recent People article, I decided to step out...I was thinking that instead of moaning about all this that posters here could post on sites that are running comments about the article. It might attract enough attention to his site. Perhaps a publishing house might see some $$ in it for them to publish. Also the fact that she used her law suit to settle with Robert speaks the truth. Why would she want to settle if Robert was lying? Perhaps a web collection could be establish to help Robert publish. It seems the web can raise a lot of funds fast for a good cause. Words don't change situations -- actions do Because TLC (and others) have made so much money on these children, it has open the door, once again, for people to exploit children...Bringing the truth out about their situation will help prevent future children from exploitation from these reality shows.
Blessing in the New Year to all
I read Robert's statement and I agree with not bashing Mady and Cara. They were obviously manipulated by Kate Gosselin and Kate Coyne regarding this "interview". It's possible their quotes were taken out of context. If those girls are not already horrified as to how this went down and what was said, they will be. The blame lies with the so-called "adults" Kate and Kate.
I posted this link some months ago when she pulled out that "they miss the crew" nonsense during an interview. This is a link to a Gosselin's do Oprah episode where Kate herself says the crew changes so often at this point and she points to the one lone sound guy who was the only crew member that was there from the beginning.
From the horse's mouth starts @ 5:50.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVG08mSzOY8
I'm glad Robert posted an informative update on where things stand.
Thank you, Robert. I hope your health is improving.
Localyocul said... 80
Yesterday I felt so bad...my poor bichon was shivering. Apparently the heater could not keep up. Plus her sweater caught in a throw ru so she couldn't curl up. She was INSIDE with a sweater on! I cranked the heat and wrapped her in a blanket. No dog should be out in his.
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My Bichon was always on a sweatshirt or "jammies" in the cold weather months. He kinda looked nekked without them after a while!
I've saved all of his sweaters, jammies and coats for our next Bichon baby- I think he'd have wanted that.
I agree with Vanessa (#112): TFW IS a sociopath. And unfortunately, Cara and Mady seem to be becoming snotty, pig-headed little brats,
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That is uncalled for, about as nasty as you can get. Did you read Robert's new post?
Thank you, Robert. I hope 2014 finds your health improving and you and your family thriving.
This has been an exhaustive endeavor, I imagine.
Hmmm... "the coming lawsuit"? Can anyone elucidate?
Apparently, Kate admitted to the child abuse but it wasn't picked up by the media (how not shocking- Kate is still insulated), but there are a lot of good sleuths out there, so I think we'll figure this one out.
I've frequently paraphrased another critic of moms who put their children out there and use them for fodder, but, it bears repeating;
"A MOTHER'S JOB IS TO PROTECT HER CHILDREN FROM THE WORLD, NOT OFFER THEM UP TO IT."
I think we're doing a pretty good job of policing ourselves against being too harsh with Mady and Cara, but what Robert wrote is correct. Those girls don't know "normal" and it will be years, if not decades, before they realize the manipulation, deception and subterfuge they've been exposed to.
The rest of the interwebs, I'm afraid, will be the girls' first real foray into the Wild, Wild West, so, good luck with that.
You know Kate said on one her recent interviews that she had made so many mistakes in the past. Well evidently she hasn't learned very much from those mistakes because this latest stunt is the mother of all mistakes. Just makes you sit and shake your head in disgust.
I agree it's not really the twin' fault as they are manipulated by Kate, but they are 13, and should know not to say certain derogatory things about their father and siblings. Fine, say Kate is the most wonderful Mommy ever, but they could have said neutral things about Alexis,and Jon. He is their father and never hurt them the way their mother has.
They have obvious personality traits that are unpleasnat such as Cara's outbursts and meanness to younger kids (Clay) and Mady was seen as she was from an early age- would they want to be reminded of that in People? I think they are partly to blame for the content of this article but I agree not to bash them- what I said above is not an insult, just an observation from the 'realest reality show' they were on and recent interviews etc.(KC, CWS) They have good qualities I'm sure.Being forced to watch and help the tups with their showers, homework, meals etc as mandated by TFW probably did nothing to improve familial relationships! They all seem to be constantly at war with one another.
I meant to post this last night- for those with dogs in this cold and ice and salt, you might look into the paw wax products like "Musher's Secret", that protect the paw pads.
Of course there are booties, and believe me, it's hard to find ones that actually stay on.
My Bichon used Pawz dog boots, which are like little balloons that protect their feet and claws. Pawz are doable with little dogs for donning, but bigger dogs could be challenging.
Senior Bichon used them after spinal surgery for a disc herniation, as he initially still had a bit of leg drag in the back. Pawz helped allow him to walk increased distances without nail damage, AND, they helped him keep traction on our wood floors.
I think she is a sociopath too. I never did until now. That #dontsayididntwarnyou and offering up her kids like that against their dad cinched it for me.
Westcoastie said: "TFW has missed the mark."
In the Old Testament, "to miss the mark" is the translation of "to sin".
So Kate files a bogus lawsuit against Robert just to prove that Jon was a partner in crime with Robert (hiring a Mickey Mouse attorney that one of her heroes no doubt claimed could do the job for her), then found out that it didn't stand a snowball's chance because she'd have to admit to the abuse (oops), then dropped the lawsuit against Robert, leaving him with major debt in legal fees.
Nice, Kate, real nice,
Sorry but I do.
Just remember this about the kids . . . they emulate the behavior of the adults on their lives.
Marie
localyocul said... 128
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I always appreciate you sharing your experiences and am sure your dd loves and appreciates your fortitude during those tough years. I agree the G kids will vacillate between Jon and Kate, and to a degree, that's normal.
It sounds like Jon knows this, so I think his personal experience may help mitigate the hurt he must feel with this People expose.
Tucker's Mom said... 144
Thank you, Robert. I hope 2014 finds your health improving and you and your family thriving.
This has been an exhaustive endeavor, I imagine.
Hmmm... "the coming lawsuit"? Can anyone elucidate?
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Right? Either it is true she is going to sue for copyright, or he is going to sue her. I wish he would elaborate on that.
Q: What can we do to help you?
A: In light of yesterday's disgusting new People magazine cover story, please don't take out your frustrations on the twins by posting derogatory comments about them. They're wonderful girls and none of this is their fault.
THAT'S AWESOME
The teenagers, who posed for the weekly in white clothes wearing their brunette hair down Kardashian style, didn't hold back when talking about their famous mom to writer Kate Coyne"
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Talk about foreshadowing.
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Localyocul said... 80
Yesterday I felt so bad...my poor bichon was shivering. Apparently the heater could not keep up. Plus her sweater caught in a throw ru so she couldn't curl up. She was INSIDE with a sweater on! I cranked the heat and wrapped her in a blanket. No dog should be out in his.
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My Bichon was always on a sweatshirt or "jammies" in the cold weather months. He kinda looked nekked without them after a while!
I've saved all of his sweaters, jammies and coats for our next Bichon baby- I think he'd have wanted that.
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Aww..so sorry, I can't bear to think the day mine will be gone. :(
Mine looks nekked too without her sweater.She has her Penn State one, her spongebob one, her raincoat, and the new velcro one. She also wears infant t-shirts sometimes in the summer!
Carole said... 133
Just past a week into the new year and Kate has already done something to make Admin's TFWs Worst List for 2014
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And someone here predicted it would when she tweeted her teaser LOL
Siobhan R @SiobhanR111 36m
@Kateplusmy8 Can't wait 4 Friday when I buy my copy of @peoplemag with U & Cara & Mady on the cover!! U all look so stunning!!
Apparently this one (a really slow one) doesn't get out too much and has never heard about professional photography and airbrushing!
I'm afraid that this interview may just backfire because the twins will get some criticism from their friends about it and they (the twins) will take it out on TFW. It may be a case of "it was fun while we were doing it" but now that it's out "oh, shit!" TFW and the twins may think that it's great to be BFFs now but once they hit 16 and become more mobile they'll want to be with friends - boyfriends included. TFW is delusional if she thinks this will last. The twins will see their friends getting cars and having the freedom to go out and they will expect the same. Their friends families may have more money but the twins will expect to get everything the other kids have because TFW has set the standard of giving them everything on a golden platter. There's a shit storm a-brewin' and it may come sooner than anyone thinks.
One thing that I have always had in the back of my mind is that some of those children are going to be like Kate when they grow up. I hope I'm wrong but whether throught heredity or learned behavior, some of the Gosselin children could end up with a similar personality to Kate. At the same time, some may end up with Jon's personality traits. It's what they know.
I do realize that some of kids will develope their own personalities seperate of their parents and others may take on what they're parents are like. It is unfortunatel that the kids were never allowed to have a family member in their lives to keep them grounded (like a grandparent, aunts, uncles, cousins etc....).
I thought Jon said fairly recently that Kate's sitting on a pile of cash. Now he seems to indicate that she wants back on a reality show because money shortage is indeed becoming an issue. Am I mis-remembering this?
I thought by now People would've learned that putting TFW on the cover kills their newsstand sales.
Apparently TFW never met a scorched-earth policy that she didn't like. Is she trying to outdo Stalingrad here?
Really dumb move on her part with the twins. Even though I don't believe any of the quotes attributed to them in the article actually came from them, those quotes just green-lighted people to accost them in public and give the twins a piece of their mind. Looks like TFW missed the memo regarding the law of unintended consequences.
Standard TFW behavior here. Talks a lot about fighting for the family, but takes the chickenshit approach by drafting proxies to do the fighting for her.
I thought Jon said fairly recently that Kate's sitting on a pile of cash. Now he seems to indicate that she wants back on a reality show because money shortage is indeed becoming an issue. Am I mis-remembering this?
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I think it depends on which way the wind is blowing that day. I don't believe a word that either of Kate or Jon say.
Marie
My bully is wearing one of my socks right now because he hurt one of his pads playing too hard at day camp (think bad rug burn). We're treating it itch his first Id no chew/lick spray. He doesn't seem to mind the sock because it makes his "foot" feel better. I'm going to go out and check for some paw wax when the stores open. If all else fails there's always @amazon. He's funny to watch because he'll be sitting there and then just collapse in a puddle on the floor and wave his paw in the air. Whatever a male diva is he's it!
Kate claims that she wants to some kind of national spokesperson against bullying, sat right there and listened to her daughter bash Alexis and did not correct her or even step in to protect Alexis by asking that those comments not be printed.
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Oh such a good point Layla.
Her agenda changes like she changes her unnerwears (someone else said this:) to suit whatever PATHOLOGICAL need she has at any given moment. And those NEEDS change just as often. This is another reason why you think you're insane when you have a narc in your life. The rules change, the consequences change, what's expected of you changes...
how much you want to bet she's now telling them they shouldn't have said what they said? She'll have another "set the record straight" article?
And thank you Robert!!!
My view over coffee this am. So the woman who sends them an hour away to school for their privacy, can't/won't take them out in public for same privacy, has now splashed them (again) on the cover of a tabloid (sorry People you jumped that shark quite awhile ago), and this does what for their 'privacy'? Writer Kate Coyne? Now there's a joke in itself. Good job Kate - heading straight for the worst mother of the year, maybe decade, and it's only the beginning of January. I have run out of words to describe you. And you pretended that your pap friends were disrespectful about your children's privacy? Sure, having their picture plastered on grocery store aisles across the country, by your greedy and manipulative choice, says what about privacy protection? This ranks up there with the most disgustings things a parent can do. Congrats on that.
Sadly it seems that the twins have learned well from their mother.
If it's true that they don't want to see Jon, I can see why not. You don't normally go hang out with someone that you betrayed/threw under the bus.
Jon will have to talk with them about this in order to keep their relationship with him honest. It's going to be painful for all involved. I can only imagine the hurt he must feel.
Nice one, TFW. Hope you're proud of yourself.
For someone so focused on healthy, organic, from scratch, we don't do fast food, she sure is spotted in Mickey D's quite a lot.
She is a fraud who does not know who she is. Not authentic.
One thing that I have always had in the back of my mind is that some of those children are going to be like Kate when they grow up
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Speaking from my own experience, yes, with EIGHT kids, there will be at least ONE who will be her clone. Just like in tfw's family, SHE is the narcissist. (maybe another sibling? don't know)
Just like when tfw shoved her brother under the bus to justify her decision to do...ALL THIS (from conception to present day) I'm guessing one of those kids will step on anyone, including siblings/family to "fight" for what the "deserve", just as we saw with bashing their little sister. And if/when they get called on their words by their peers, what do you think's gonna happen?? You guessed it, cry bully!! This is the lesson she's giving them, you can BE a bully, but you can't be bullied yourself. Oh, and only "I" can bully too!
For someone so focused on healthy, organic, from scratch, we don't do fast food, she sure is spotted in Mickey D's quite a lot.
She is a fraud who does not know who she is. Not authentic.
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Yes
And if there was proof of her being there (picture) she would stone faced deny she was there. THIS is the crazy you deal with.
It is ber common for child abusers to target one or two children. I've read about cases of severe abuse and neglect of one child while the rest are treated normally
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This absolutely, 100% happens all the time.
Anyone remember that case of a poor little girl who was killed by her parents in Colorado then buried under their house?
Her other siblings (boys) were not TOUCHED.
This also happened to A Child Called It and it happened to Joan Crawford's children. This is why sometimes other siblings will turn on the abused child and speak out saying this is nonsense I wasn't abused mom was NOT abusive! Because it's true, in their reality it was a perfectly loving home. To THEM.
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Exactly!
She is a walking contradiction, in every aspect of her life. From her holier than thou insatiable need for attention, right down to her going to Mickey D's.
I'm seeing Divorce Corp this weekend with some attorney friends. It's a documentary about how arbitrary and corrupt the family law courts are. If the judge decides they like one parent over the other, a perfectly appropriate parent could lose custody. It is a system that relies too much on feelings and inclinations and the judge's mood than the facts of the case. If it is good I will do a review.
In any case, Jon surely has complained about Kate's twitter and so on to the judge long before he complained to a reporter. It doesn't mean the judge cared to make any orders to stop it.
NJGal51 said... 165
My bully is wearing one of my socks right now because he hurt one of his pads playing too hard at day camp (think bad rug burn)
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Just a story to relate, and you might be more aware than I was... Senior Bichon (years ago) used to have skin allergies and he'd get obsessive about licking his paws or legs or...
He could like a sore in his skin within minutes, I mean, so fast. So one day, I had to go to work and I covered his back leg with a sock and fastened it with athletic tape. By the end of the day, it was infected. That fast.
I had to run him over to the vet asap to treat it, so just beware of covering wounds because they can fester quickly.
I opted for an E collar any time I needed to keep him from licking and picking. He became quite accustomed to the collar so it was never a big deal to throw it on him as needed.
Really dumb move on her part with the twins
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That's what's so mind boggling!! She actually thought it was! How do you live with someone like that?
For someone so focused on healthy, organic, from scratch, we don't do fast food, she sure is spotted in Mickey D's quite a lot.
She is a fraud who does not know who she is. Not authentic.
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Yes
And if there was proof of her being there (picture) she would stone faced deny she was there. THIS is the crazy you deal with.
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The sad thing is she doesn't realize that if she peddled who she really is, she'd probably have a lot more fans.
I can relate much more to someone who has to swing by McDonald's on a Wednesday night because they just don't feel like cooking or didn't have time to grocery shop or whatever. Be real.
I can't relate to spending all day in the kitchen and bread machines and yogurt machines and all this from scratch. I'm simply not home enough to spend all day in there even if I wanted to.
http://psychcentral.com/lib/narcissistic-mothers/0002959
If you're so inclined to read.
The sad thing is she doesn't realize that if she peddled who she really is, she'd probably have a lot more fans.
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But that IS who she is. A liar, a manipulator, a bully, an abuser...
she DOES peddle who she really is and that results in this massive wave of disgust.
She doesn't know who she is "is who she is" lol
Am I making sense?
In an interview on the new CA law giving stiffer penalties to paparazzo harassing and taking pictures of celeb's kids she said:
"We are fair game, I get it," Bullock told CNN at her handprint and footprint ceremony outside the TCL Chinese Theatre in Hollywood on Wednesday. "Children should be allowed to be children and not be sold. You're taking a picture of a child and selling it!"
Wait, wait, wait! Isn't that what TFW just did with the twins? Sold them to People magazine? TFW was retweeting high-fiving this new law. I guess it's different when you're the one pimping the kids out and have the photographer come to the house for a photo shoot.
"Luckily for the girls, they don't remember much of their parents' ugly split, but they do remember their father's string of lady loves."
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See, they don't even remember much details of it. I bet they're "remembering" what Kate told them.
I bet they don't remember much about filming either and are also just remembering what Kate told them.
Sometimes the brain really can get confused between what's a real memory and what's just seeing a home video or remembering someone telling you the memory. I think what's glaring in the twins' statements is that most of the propaganda they peddle is without much details. What exactly is it about the crew they miss? Is there a person in particular or something fun they did with them that they are missing here? What exactly is it about Kate that is so great other than she gives them "everything." Be specific. They only get specific when they are trashing other family members. Their lack of specifics as to the party line is glaring.
And just wanted to say I'm enjoying the little off topic posts about your pets, rescuing cats, cats hurrying over to be fed by a homeless man...
enjoying them very much.
I can't relate to spending all day in the kitchen and bread machines and yogurt machines and all this from scratch. I'm simply not home enough to spend all day in there even if I wanted to.
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Another reason you, and the world, can't relate, is that she simply talks about it, and doesn't really do it. Authentic? Hardly. Her almost 10 year olds are still eating on toddler plates, her dog is out in the frigid cold and her new interest, the bird, is flying all over and then some. Passing fancy. Maybe the bird was the 'treat' for the interview, it was obviously a bribe of some kind. And if this interview was done in late November, and in December she was whoring for those 1D tickets, not sure if those came via People. At any rate, the lying liar is always caught up in her lies.
TFW was retweeting high-fiving this new law. I guess it's different when you're the one pimping the kids out and have the photographer come to the house for a photo shoot.
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As disgusting as it sounds, the analogy of pimp is so fitting. Those kids are her merchandise and if you want access, there's a price to be paid and the money goes straight into her hands.
I'm concerned they do not fully understand the ramifications by agreeing to opening up to a rag magazine.
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Biologically they can't understand it. They are 13. A 13 year old brain cannot understand consequences the way an adult does. They don't understand what is best for them might not be what they want at this moment. They are more emotional than rational. It's just a biological fact. This is why 13 year olds still live with their parents and parents make the big decisions for them.
Biologically they can't understand it. They are 13. A 13 year old brain cannot understand consequences the way an adult does.
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Doesn't it take the brain until age 25 to fully devleop? Then you add abuse to the mix?
yeah, these 13 yr olds are soooo worldly and have such great insight.(NOT bashing them)
I'm so glad to see the update from Robert. Sorry to hear about his health problems and I hope everything turns out okay.
The only part I of his update I have an issue with is about the twins. They still said what they said, it's in print, and it only re-confirmed my feelings along with how I've seen them behave on television.
I'm sure it's no fun having a large legal debt looming over one's head, and if I were uber-wealthy, I'd love to help the guy out more than with the pittance I already did.
Hang in there, Robert.
It's beyond suspect that M+C parrot Kate's talking points- the same ones she's repeated for the past several years.
I can't believe they miss the crew, and don't miss their own extended family. That, if true, is so very sad.
I'd be hanging my head in shame if my children's lives were so void of intrinsic enrichment that all they thought about was a crew of people whose job it is to be there and film them.
It's so warped that I can't really wrap my head around it.
I so hope Robert's health improves and he gets the help he needs to get the truth back out there.
These children are indeed pawns.
As disgusting as it sounds, the analogy of pimp is so fitting.
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I was going to say she is a pimp yesterday but I thought maybe that was too much.
But upon reflection it fits.
Her support of the paparazzi law, which is only in CA Kate so what do you care, is so ridiculous. None of the celebs supporting that law use their children. They're talking about trying to have careers on their own merit and then be walking their child to school and be hounded by photographers. This is not the Dakota Fanning bill. It is for mothers and fathers trying to keep their family PRIVATE. Apparently one of Ben Affleck's kids' goes to a school for kids with special needs and people think she has special needs, so we're talking about a photographer harassing a special needs child!
Kate should read the penal code. The law only applies to children harassed because of their PARENT's job. It does not apply to child celebrities themselves. It says nothing about celebrities at all. No way would the Gosselin kids be covered under this law.
While it's wonderful to form friendships with coworkers, the kids also need to have a healthy understanding that work is work and home life is home life. Your priority should be friends and family, not your work life.
Your work should not be your life or your family, it's not healthy. And yet Kate has actively encouraged this. What are the twins going to do at their first job, maybe at the cash register, burst into tears every time a coworker moves on? It's just work.
In a weird way I'm not sure I have much sympathy for Robert. If you're going to publish something about someone who is litigious as Kate, I think you need to anticipate that she is going to sue you for everything you are worth no matter how baseless. If that is something financially you cannot take on, unfortunately you may not be able to publish what you want, or be very careful about what you do publish, like not reprinting every single word of copyrighted material.
And this really wasn't done in a manner that suggests that he just wants to be a brave whistleblower, here is what I know, take it or leave it. He teased, taunted, poked at her every step of the way. It felt more like game playing than legitimate whistleblowing about child abuse, and I've said this from day one. The material we saw was important, but the messenger I have never been all that happy with.
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"Luckily for the girls, they don't remember much of their parents' ugly split, but they do remember their father's string of lady loves."
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Oh yes, NOT the divorce, NOT the split BUT the string of lady loves is REALLY what they remember
'I don't remember any of it. At all,' started Mady then changes her tune.
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You can actually tell from this statement by Mady, that the twins have been coached by their mother.
Mady remembers the divorce because right before their parents split Mady and Cara discussed it on the show. Mady told the camera that her parents 'fight all the time' (the clip has since disappeared... *poof*).
After the divorce, in a People article, Kate was asked how the twins took the news of their split and she said Mady sort of shrugged it off saying she wasn't surprised and Cara cried.
The thing is, Kate is a liar, not a good one, just an habitual one. Because in order to be a good liar, you need to have a good memory. If she is grooming her daughters to do interviews, she had better hone her talent for lying.
And let's not forget the G8 have been watching videos of their show since it ended. That should prompt their recall of the divorce.
I also wanted to add that when I type in caps (I tend to do this a lot) I'm not yelling, I'm trying the emphasize the word. How do I type in bold here?
Another thing they don't understand is that the "I can't stand my little sister" the little kids are annoying feelings they have now is probably not how they are going to feel later. It will not last forever. They will all be adults and peers in short order and COULD be good friends. I was mean to my little sister, she was mean right back to me, who isn't? But we grew out of it and are very close. We can forgive each other for the sibling spats, understand we were just little kids, and move on in a healthy manner.
But what if she had some magazine to refer to where I called her rabid and crazy and annoying? I think they are going to look back on that comment in later years and feel absolutely horrible about themselves. And there's nothing that can be done to take it back, it's done, forever in print.
I was going to say she is a pimp yesterday but I thought maybe that was too much.
But upon reflection it fits.
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I believe the phrase "Jon and Kate pimped their kids" has been tossed around for years. Nasty term but unfortunately accurate.
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And just wanted to say I'm enjoying the little off topic posts about your pets, rescuing cats, cats hurrying over to be fed by a homeless man...
enjoying them very much.
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Speaking of my house guests. They will return to the outside today. No wind, temps in the 30s, and after the frigid temps this week, it actually feels warm out there. If they want to come inside at night because it's too cold, I'll bring them in. They are perfect house guests...no complaints on the food, clean up after themselves, enjoy the oldies music, don't fight, just a belly rub now and then keeps them happy. In fact, even though they are in a room with antique furniture, quilts, and a four-poster rope bed, nothing was knocked over or disturbed or clawed, and they never failed to use the litter box.
Wish all "company" behaved like this! I'm still debating if I want to make them permanent inside cats. My other felines are strictly indoor cats. The only time they are outside, briefly, is for their trip to the vet or groomer's. I just wonder if I brought the strays in permanently if they'd be restless to be outside.
Auntie -- I thought about Lucy and Ethel. I like those names. Problem is that the name "Lucy" reminds me of Nancy Grace's "Little Lucy" and I can't stand Nancy Grace!
My iPad is being weird so I don't know if the other post is going through because I got a "conflict" message - whatever the hell that is!
Thanks Tucker's Mom. We basically only put the sock on when he's ready to go outside so that his poor paw isn't poked by the prickly-dry grass (he really is big, pitiful baby and stands there waiving his poor paw in the air. He'd like nothing better than to have me come out and carry him back in but at 78 pounds that's not about to happen). We wipe it down twice a day with Duxo Chlorhexidine pads to keep it clean and use an antiseptic spray for pain and to prevent licking. We've been lucky with this bully because he doesn't seem to have any allergies. Our previous bully had allergies that were all manifested in his poor feet. Poor thing was always chewing on them no matter what we did. The vet finally put him on Atopica for dogs which was like a miracle drug. His fur grew back and all the swelling went down and he stopped his chewing. The Atopica was expensive but so worth the money for the comfort it gave him in his final year.
To Vanessa (#178): I read your link about narcissistic mothers. It is absolutely CHILLING how TFW is basically described word for word. She is sic, sick, sick, and SHAME ON PEOPLE MAGAZINE FOR AIDING AND ABETTING THIS CHILD ABUSER.
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