This week Kate and the twins are on the cover of People. The twins insist they are not damaged by reality T.V.
The same day that cover was released, inTouch released their own cover of Kate, "Destroyed by Greed." In their interview with Jon, in which he lashed out at Kate, Jon said Kate is "hurting our children."
And the battle rages on.
520 sediments (sic) from readers:
«Oldest ‹Older 401 – 520 of 520 Newer› Newest»But what if she had some magazine to refer to where I called her rabid and crazy and annoying? I think they are going to look back on that comment in later years and feel absolutely horrible about themselves. And there's nothing that can be done to take it back, it's done, forever in print.
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True. and the thing is that siblings tease each other. It could have been said with no malicious intent. They are kids. What bothers me is that Kate did absolutely nothing to stop this, nor did she say "please don't print that." Her problem since the beginning of time has been that she can't think ahead. She lives in the moment without any thought that there may be repercussions or consequences to her decisions.
No responsible parent would allow an interview with a child without guidelines being set, with questions that are off limits. The two Kates are adults. They should know that comments from young teens may be taken out of context, especially in this saga that is so controversial. It never should have happened.
My iPad is being weird so I don't know if the other post is going through because I got a "conflict" message - whatever the hell that is!
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I get those on my computer. The conflicting post happens, I think, when posters are trying to submit at the same time. Two or more posters hitting "publish" apparently confuses the heck out of blogger, who can't handle simultaneous submissions!
Someone should remind the twins that without the 6, there would never have been trips, shows, money!!
Just like I feared, some of the girls will turn out to be mini-kates.
I am disgusted by TFW's latest attempt to remain relevant by using her twins to do so, she has no boundaries or limitations. I agree with many of the posters here who believe these girls were manipulated by their own mother. This is a woman who has always related success directly with income. Without fame and fortune, these teens have likely been told that all their lives will look a whole lot different if they don't tow the line.
I suspect we will see more of this unless she is court-ordered to stop the exploitation of minor children.
http://psychcentral.com/lib/narcissistic-mothers/0002959
If you're so inclined to read
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H.O.L.Y. C.O.W. that is her to a T!
Vanessa said... 101
I've never heard or seen much sibling alienation and yet isn't that what she's doing?
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I don't know what it's called either but my mother did (and still does) pit us against one another.
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It's the divide and conquer strategy. Narcissists use it all the time.
It's a way of keeping yourself in a position of power by making the people under you disagree with each other so that they are unable to join together and remove you from your position. (Cambridge Idioms Dictionary, 2nd ed.)
Of course they are parroting her...
Has anyone seen the film "The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie"? I saw it in 1969. Will ever forget the line, "little girls! I am in the business of putting old heads on young shoulders...Give me a girl at an impressionable age, and she is mine for life."
They turned on her, in the end...
Just desserts, and I can hardly wait for TFW to get hers.
Over In TFW's County said... 197
I'm still debating if I want to make them permanent inside cats. My other felines are strictly indoor cats. The only time they are outside, briefly, is for their trip to the vet or groomer's. I just wonder if I brought the strays in permanently if they'd be restless to be outside.
Auntie -- I thought about Lucy and Ethel. I like those names. Problem is that the name "Lucy" reminds me of Nancy Grace's "Little Lucy" and I can't stand Nancy Grace!
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Oh my. There's another kid I feel sorry for. Forget that! Go with Thelma and Louise. ha!
You are aware, are you not, that cats are aliens who have come here to take over the earth? Notice how they've been invited into your home and are now warm, happy and fed. Not only that, but they've captured your heart. You surrendered to them willingly. Smart aren't they?
This is not unplanned. It's a carefully designed mission to conquer the entire planet. lol!
I think at age 9 the twins remember quite a lot, especially within the family as they are so isolated there.A traumatic episode like parents' splitting and the fighting etc would be sure to stick in their minds IMO.
Rhymes with Witch said... 156
The teenagers, who posed for the weekly in white clothes wearing their brunette hair down Kardashian style, didn't hold back when talking about their famous mom to writer Kate Coyne"
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Talk about foreshadowing.
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"Growing up Gosselin" in the style of "Keeping up with the Kardashians." Kate envisions herself as future momager to the kids, don't you think? Hasn't she sucked up to Mama Kardashian before, maybe looking for a mentor?
What better way to get a show like that than to have the twins to indicate there's already family drama going on. Kate might be crazy like a fox. A cruel, bitchy, nasty fox, that is. That "Kardashian style" thrown in is just plain creepy.
GOSSELIN BOOK Questions Will Be Answered.
Q: Why don't you just find a publisher to handle everything?
A: It's easier said than done. We're open to any and all inquiries from publishers who want to release the book. Anyone can feel free to contact publishers on our behalf or take on the financial responsibility of publishing the book themselves.
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It seems as if no one wants to touch Kate Gosselin with a ten-foot pole. The woman is poison.
Maybe now, after this disurbing PEOPLE article hits the stands, a publisher will step forward.
Fingers crossed.
OrangeCrusher1 -- OR -- the twits about trying to get 1D tickets were a ruse to cover up that People already gave them the tickets? With TFMJG, ya never know!
Admin -- I think Jon said it best when he said his former wife views parenthood as ownership. That says it all, right there.
I do feel sorry for Robert. I don't like the way he poked and prodded and teased before the book came out, but I think his motive was exposing TFMJG for the lying liar that she is. I think he does care about the kids and, to a lesser extent, Jon. I hope someone comes along who can either get a publisher interested in the book or help Robert pay off his bills so that he can self-publish it.
Formerly Duped said... 147
I agree it's not really the twin' fault as they are manipulated by Kate, but they are 13, and should know not to say certain derogatory things about their father and siblings. Fine, say Kate is the most wonderful Mommy ever, but they could have said neutral things about Alexis,and Jon. He is their father and never hurt them the way their mother has.
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And, how would they know not to say derogatory things about their family?
Their mom regularly throws there mother under the bus, and if Jon's asshole comments are something he would say to a journalist, he is probably also saying it at home---whether it is reported or not. Jon did a great job staying out of the public, and I can see where this latest stunt, combined with the lawsuit, would put him over the edge. My guess is that the "I warned you" was retaliation for going on Couple's Therapy and talking about her. The "conversation" with Peop Le took place in November, so that's how the timing looks to me. Can't say I blame Jon for losing it--I don't think even Mother Theresa would have kept her cool. It just wish that jOn would think about whether the thing he is about t or do is going to help or hurt his kids.
On another note, Couples Therapy is on tonight....
It's always interested me how TFW seems to think that people tuned in to see HER. That SHE was the celebrity.
And now apparently the twins think it's about THEM. That they're the celebrities.
None of the three seem to understand that *they* are not the attraction at all and have never been. If it was just the three of them (against the world) there would be no Kate+8 show.
No one's interested in twins. It was the sextuplets *plus* the twins that were the original attraction when the kids were all toddlers.
The attraction evolved to be just the sextuplets, and as they've aged out of toddler cuteness, there isn't much attraction anymore.
Nothing like killing the golden geese, M & C.
Without those golden geese, there would be no servants, no fancy hotels/food, no pampering, no first class travel, no shutting down facilities just for you, no attention.
You girls were just along for the ride. As was your mother.
If I was you girls, I'd be mighty nice to the golden geese....
Rearranging the Deck Chairs on the Titanic and localyocal
Yes, chilling and like it was written FOR her. Not chilling to me, I've got stories that would make your toes curl. It's more of a validation that my childhood was NOT normal and it WAS abuse. I just pray that the reason I understand it, is because I'm NOT like my own mother.
AutieAnn,
Yup. Battlefield mentality. Constantly strategizing, constantly causing chaos, constantly ready for a fight or instigating a fight. It must be exhausting really. Many of us have predicted a very lonely future for her, it's inevitable. Especially that she is so well known, who can she fool??? What am I saying!??! BUT she wouldn't let those sheeple within 20 ft of her.
"Luckily for the girls, they don't remember much of their parents' ugly split, but they do remember their father's string of lady loves."
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See, they don't even remember much details of it. I bet they're "remembering" what Kate told them.
I bet they don't remember much about filming either and are also just remembering what Kate told them.
Sometimes the brain really can get confused between what's a real memory and what's just seeing a home video or remembering someone telling you the memory.
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I'd imagine their memories are full of only what was on the dvd's. Watching hour upon hour of the HEAVILY edited dvd's has rewritten any real memories they had of their childhoods. Now all they remember is the same crap her new teeny fans latch on to @ Kate being a harried mom with a brood of 8 adorable children. Whether intentional or not, it's a result of the brainwashing the dvd's did on them as well as Kate reinforcing her slanted version of the truth every chance she got when they had 'BFF time' after the divorce.
Well I finally found the quote about the crop top. I thought they were talking about her old haircut. Nope.
http://ca.omg.yahoo.com/blogs/the-juice-celeb-news/gosselin-twins-mom-kate-annoying-195620712.html
During a photo shoot for the magazine, the girls — who again said they'd like to return to TV — were highly critical of Kate's wardrobe. Though, for the record, the former nurse, who has eight children, did materialize from the dressing room wearing a crop top.
"I cannot believe how gross that is. Gross. You look gross," one of the twins said about Kate's outfit. Her sister was equally as critical, saying, "Oh, my God, that is the lamest thing I have ever seen. Ew. Ewwww."
This reminds me of the Katie Show when one of them told her to "Stop being inspirational and let me talk"
Now, my daughter has told me my clothes are embarassing or tried to make me not wear sneakers with my jeans, but again, this is in print and there's no tone or context so it just sounds. Well. Not good.
Vanessa said... 194
I also wanted to add that when I type in caps (I tend to do this a lot) I'm not yelling, I'm trying the emphasize the word. How do I type in bold here?
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Is this true? Were the six in high chairs until they were eight?
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@sammiemyami @Kateplusmy8 Not surprised, she only took them out of high chairs 2 years ago.
This has kind of bothered me all last night and all day today. The cover of People shows Kate and her daughters, front and center, an article about Demi and her younger man and Kesha's rehab. Then at the bottom is a photo a of US Veteran who is disabled and his amazing "Walking Suit".
Kind of puts things in perspective. As far as I am concerned, Kate and her kids should take a huge back seat to our troops and veterans. They are the ones who deserve to be front and center on the front of People, not some overbearing, selfish greedy woman and her bratty kids.
I'm sorry but I do a lot to support our troops and our veterans and I get tired of seeing celebs and pseudo celebs getting top billing when people who have made sacrafices beyond anything any Hollywood Startlet or single mother in PA. can even imagine. Our troops and veterans are so much more precious than Jon, Kate and the 8 Gosselins or anything they have to say.
I say that because our veterans and active duty military have done something that none of the Gosselins have or ever will do (or any celebrity), and that is make a choice to do something that is bigger than themselves. They do it humbly and quietly and without ceremony.
So in a word, instead of Kate's mug being on the cover of People, I think the disabled Veteran and his walking machine should have had the main cover and put Kate and her kids somewhere on the bottom.
Is it possible that TFW has finally grasped that the shield of 'mom of 8' no longer protects from public criticism? She probably thinks that the media will not criticize her young teens. Networks might like controversial adults, but who is going to risk being seen as exploiting young girls? No One! Not even Dance Moms would go there--and they pretty much will go anywhere. The adults are fair game, but children are OFF LIMITS. There are rodents that are more protective of their young than TFW.
I just went to the People magazine site and looked for the article on TFW and the twins. Wow, wow, wow. They really buried it and made it difficult to find, unless you really were searching for it. The comments are brutal, and often bizarre. At this point, is People just happy to get any sorts of comments at all? This one did make me laugh though:
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OK, this is to Kate's #1 fan For Real...SHE DOES NOT HAVE A TV SHOW! Please stop saying that! If she has a tv show, please post a link or something so that we can check it out. Her last show was cancelled in 2011 and that was Kate Plus 8. You may be her friend, but you don't know much.
2. IF she has a show and it is already airing, can you post the link? I'm sure the other 2 fans would like to watch with you for a total viewership of 3.
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Had my Kate laugh of the day! Kate tweeted, that her bird is potty trained to go back in it's cage and poop, when it needs to go. I have never ever heard of a bird that will go back in it's cage and poop, when it has to go. Birds poop at random, Kate! You can fool your fans/lackeys/etc, but those of us who owned birds most of out lives know the truth about, what birds do. You just made a FOOL out of your self. They do have these diaper things you put on parrots, if you are allowing them to fly free in your house. Kate most likely has the kids on poop patrol, with that bird, and that is another reason the dog is outside. Kate you are so full of shit!
LisaNH: I totally agree with you. Perhaps if you can get a lot of Vets to bomb-bard People about their a-hole choice, on their covers, maybe they might get the pic. Especially, that idiot, that did the article. It's a long shot! JMO.
Doesn't it take the brain until age 25 to fully devleop? Then you add abuse to the mix?
yeah, these 13 yr olds are soooo worldly and have such great insight.(NOT bashing them)
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YES-the pre-frontal cortex doesn't develop unto late twenties. This is responsible for mature thinking, developing empathy and a conscience, and decisions. Abuse and/or addiction can prevent development resulting in poor impulse control, poor decision-making and immature behavior. Narcissism is a normal stage of development. The diagnosis is never made in children, because normally they will pass through this stage.
Vanessa said... 129
@PJ-would love to have coffee with you:)
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PatK said... 188
The only part I of his update I have an issue with is about the twins. They still said what they said, it's in print, and it only re-confirmed my feelings along with how I've seen them behave on television.
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Vanessa, I'd love to meet up for coffee. Oh, the stories we could tell!
PatK, unless you've lived with a narcissist, you have no idea. I'm not defending their behaviour on the show, but I can't even begin to tell you all the things my narcissistic mother got me to say/do. I was a child, I would hope I wouldn't be held accountable. Their behaviour on the show speaks to another side of the parenting or lack thereof.
PJ
localyocul said... 4
http://psychcentral.com/lib/narcissistic-mothers/0002959
If you're so inclined to read
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H.O.L.Y. C.O.W. that is her to a T!
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Hey, Vanessa, I didn't read the article, but tell me this: Was my mother's picture there too? LOL
LisaNH,
I agree. If you are so inclined I recommend the book Band of Sisters: American Women at War in Iraq by Kirsten Holmstedt. This is a rough read but eye opening. These (women) soldiers, Marines have sacrificed so much.
Ex Nurse said... 12
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I think by 13 you know from school and your peers,even TV, how to behave properly, whether you chose to or not. These are supposedly bright kids. The girls would realize their family is dysfunctional while still loving their mom and probably their dad. They surely would know it is wrong to say hurtful things.After all, Mady was the subject of terrible online slurs as a kid and admitted she was teased at school. They know when they fight with their siblings what things cause pain. I am giving them the benefit of the doubt that they are not as self-absorbed as TFW.Maybe I'm wrong.
Has anyone ever figured out who or what this is?
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@Kateplusmy8 calves help the meat like cups help the things spicy and sweet: eyebrows help something.
I was reading some of the sheeple comments about the People article. I find it difficult to believe that they are really that dumb. There are four or so of them who appear not to be playing with the proverbial full deck. Sometimes I wonder if they really are as stupid as they present themselves to be, or if they are just baiting the haters with their idiotic comments, trying to get them all worked up, then sitting back and laughing, "Gotcha!"
I just find it difficult to believe that some of them are so slow on the uptake, possessing little or no critical thinking ability whatsoever. I'm not referring to Milo, who is an entity unto itself.
Robert says another lawsuit is coming. How does he know? Is it merely a threat or is one actually coming? Seems odd to me. One was supposedly filed the day before Thanksgiving but it's never shown up, and Robert said "coming" not filed. He also said he cannot afford another "frivolous" lawsuit (which it was). Can he afford a non-frivolous one?
Sounds like he's stuck without a publisher and can't afford to self-publish.
Robert your answers give us more questions.
Sideline Observer said... 163
I thought by now People would've learned that putting TFW on the cover kills their newsstand sales.
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People Magazine bases that decision on numbers, not your assumptions. The 2013 cover featuring Kate and the kids was one of the highest sellers of the year.
This interview just breaks my heart. It would appear Kate has completed her mission of alienating the twins from their father. I guess she can begin working on the younger ones now.
I don't find it at all believable that the twins don't remember anything about the divorce. My son was 4 when we divorced and he remembers his dad moving out (okay, mainly because his dad moved into an apt with a Murphy bed .. uber fun for a 4-year-old .. but he remembers.) And we were completely civil and remain so to this day.
Having said that, it makes me question this whole interview. How many times were the twins answering a question and mommy interjected or poked or prodded to get them to give a different answer? People Mag doesn't seem to be unbiased when it comes to Kate .. so we will never know the answer to that question. The whole thing is just so heartbreaking.
It's snowing again in Indiana, on our already crappy snow/ice packed roads. Temp is up to 19 though, so I guess I shouldn't whine, but I will ... I'm ready for sunny and 70 and it's only January 9th!
Aren't they the Gosselin twins? Kate hasn't exclusive rights!
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Well, here it is...
And it's all PUBLIC RECORD.
Robert Hoffman said in his most recent blog post that you can find PROOF online that Kate admitted the journals are hers.
April 1, 2013 Hoffman posts this on his blog:
The entire text of the book KATE GOSSELIN: HOW SHE FOOLED THE WORLD, including all supporting documents, digital files and photo libraries for verification, is now available for viewing by any legitimate news-gathering organization interested in this story.
Contact gosselinbook@gmail.com for more information and author interview requests.
http://gosselinbook.blogspot.com/2013/04/0-0-1-92-525-maddie-4-1-616-14.html
So, Kate learns that Hoffman plans to make all her journals and back-up info public...
About two weeks later on April 16, 2013 Kate Gosselin files for copyright. For what? Mommy's Journal !!!
You can find it here:
http://www.copyright.gov/records/
Online Records
Search the Catalog
Search by Keyword: Katie Irene Gosselin
It's the first one listed.
Click the [1] on the left-hand side. It will bring you to this:
http://cocatalog.loc.gov/cgi-bin/Pwebrecon.cgi?v1=1&ti=1,1&Search_Arg=Katie%20irene%20gosselin&Search_Code=FT%2A&CNT=25&PID=-O7qHHslAA_GkVyDQwTthizqQC&SEQ=20140109143724&SID=2
Teflon Kate. When will she finally get what she deserves? Apparently she succeeded with lawsuits causing Robert much legal debt. He can't find a publisher because they don't want to be sued. I'm glad he finally spoke out as to his silence and I wish him well in regards to his health issues, but I don't think his book will ever see the light of day. No wonder the people who know what she is will not speak out.
Girls at age 13 are sometimes not very nice, and Mady and Cara are probably not any different, but I think those two are worse if that People article is accurate. They sound just like her, mean and entitled. Robert hasn't been anywhere near those girls in recent years so maybe they were sweet once, but not now. I cannot agree him in regards to not criticizing the girls. Sure, it's not their fault, but I hope when they mature they look back on these times and realize how they were bribed and coached.
I just read Robert's update. I certainly hope his health improves. No doubt the stress of this last lawsuit has not been good for his health.
The upcoming lawsuit? I wish we knew more, but it will come out one of these days. And when he said his legal debt was in the mid-five figures, wow--I wonder how much Kate's was. She had to have a lot more legal work done than Robert, so this must have cost her in the six figures. I certainly hope that the money from this Poeple magazine interview didn't go toward legal fees. That would be just too sick--having the twins publicly bash their father and sister to make money to pay for their mother to file a bogus lawsuit against their father and his friend. Wasn't there a link somewhere that allowed people to contribute to Robert's legal fund? I wonder if he'll put that back up somewhere. He's fighting the good fight. I know I would help out.
Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said... 26
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Agree. Robert always has reasons to stall. I understand his position is difficult, but I doubt this book will be re-released and edited. I have the original on my kindle app. He's going to have to keep updating as the drama continues to unfold. I also agree with whoever said they don't care for the teasers he puts up.
PROOF, great find. Wow. I hope Milo and the other fans read here. Not that it would make a lick of difference. But it sure appears to be proof that she owns those words.
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Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said... 31
Robert says another lawsuit is coming. How does he know?
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Perhaps this time around, Robert is going to be the one suing.
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Sideline Observer said... 163
I thought by now People would've learned that putting TFW on the cover kills their newsstand sales.
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People Magazine bases that decision on numbers, not your assumptions. The 2013 cover featuring Kate and the kids was one of the highest sellers of the year.
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Paula Deen was also on that cover. Her racism scandal was hot news right at that time. Oprah also did an interview about herself about how she was falling apart, which was on that same cover as well.
Are you SURE it was Kate and the kids bringing in the sales?
Kate is a twit said... 40
Perhaps this time around, Robert is going to be the one suing.
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That's what I was thinking.
PROOF-- Good find!! To add to you timeline, it was on April 19, 2013, that ROL had an article stating that Kate was moving forward with her lawsuit--just 3 days after she filed for copyright.
Virginia Pen Mom
I think you've got something there.
Anonymous? Your mother's pic was just under mine;)
PJ , maybe Rumspringas would be in order instead of coffee:)
Tweetle, thanks for the tip!
So does Kate's copyrighting the Mommy Journal negate Robert ever being able to publish his book, even though she didn't do it until after the first book was released (albeit briefly)?
If so, I would assume Robert would know that and ditch his plans for any new publishing of same.
Buy, hey, at least she admits there was a journal and it was hers!
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Sideline Observer said... 163
I thought by now People would've learned that putting TFW on the cover kills their newsstand sales.
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People Magazine bases that decision on numbers, not your assumptions. The 2013 cover featuring Kate and the kids was one of the highest sellers of the year.
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I could be wrong but I thin it was among the most commented upon articles online, not the best seller. And we know why that is .
Admin can this copyright be linked to the journals hoffman has in his possession because that would be a real smoking gun! We all know that Kate kept a journal we saw it on the show and read about it in her other books.......her copyrighting her journal doesn't prove it's the one Robert has does it?
All I can say is what the f%%k kate really she is so gross I dislike her even more now.
Seriously? Why aren't the smut mags publishing the fact that she had the journal copyrighted? Even Lance Armstrong had to pay the Piper
People Magazine bases that decision on numbers, not your assumptions. The 2013 cover featuring Kate and the kids was one of the highest sellers of the year.
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I could be wrong but I thin it was among the most commented upon articles online, not the best seller. And we know why that is .
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Kate Coyne was on Katie C. today at the end of the show, doing a People mag this week recap (regular segment weekly??) and Coyne said Kate's covers while not *the* best sellers, are "up there", so yes, Kate sells People magazine.
Without the shitstorm that Kate's lovingly nurtured like a wet nurse, she'd be yesterday's news.
I don't expect her to make peace with Jon, or keep or children away from the public eye anytime soon, if ever.
She's found a means to stay relevant, even if that makes her a monster.
Whatever is the opposite of America's Sweetheart, that's Kate, and it's making her bank account fatter by the day.
Bored with TFMJG and her best bud Kate Coyne.
Please can we have a new post on Couples Therapy? I want to see if cray-cray Farrah mentions her child at all, and to count how many more times Taylor drags her deceased husband thru the mud.
We have to remember a lot of the divorce was happening at pretty crazy times for them. At one point they were going on filming trips every couple months plus all the regular filming. Kate was gone a TON so she wouldn't be around much for them to witness divorce drama. At some point Jon stopped the filming but they still had school all day and filming resumed quickly again. They also had full time nannies who could keep them on the school and filming track at all times, with no time to be aware much of divorce drama. I think their lives were way more whirlwind than most kids so I believe them when they sort of imply that the divorce was a blur. To them I believe it very well could have been.
Oops. Vanessa, that comment about my mother's picture was me. LOL I did see your mom's picture when I went to read the article. You don't look a thing like her. ;)
Anything with Rum in the name is good enough for me.
PJ
I guess Kate couldn't let Jon win by calling her an A$$-hole which she is God this woman is pure evil.
Secondly why is Kate so worried about Jon's dating life after all most 5yrs of div makes you think.
Has anyone seen the film "The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie"? 6
Yes and it made an indelible impression on me.
I cannot forget the girl who went to Spain to fight for the "wrong" side in the civil war
I feel so sad for Jon in reading what is monster ex-wife put his daughter up to.
He probably knows it's all Kate's brainwashing but I bet it still hurts his heart.
Why doesn't Robert just write a "novel" based on true events? Ripped from the headlines, blah, blah, blah. Everyone will know who it's about and he can reference her copyright of the mommy journal when he thanks her for giving him inspiration for the book.
Oh love the image - Kate Coyne on Katie Couric talking about Kate Gosselin. Hmm, Kate Coyne and Karie Couric. Funny how Katie Couric just got it in her head to take a film crew to PA. To think she still calls herself a journalist. Birds of a feather.
I truly regret having ever watched J & K plus 8. I wish I didn't even know their names. Still remember the first time I felt "taken in" by these people. They need to be out of any spotlight what so ever. Another money grab is all they are about. What will it take for them to fade in to private life? If Kate runs out of money, would that make a difference? We never hear about the other regulars on the show like: Carla, Beth Carson, Jodi and Kevin. Somehow they manage to avoid the spotlight.
Has anyone else noticed that on the trailers for Honey Boo Boo, TLC has them traveling in a motor home? Pete and repeat those story lines! Where is any creativity? Are we going to see the end of the "Reality" shows any time soon?
KatesCooked said... 47
Admin can this copyright be linked to the journals hoffman has in his possession because that would be a real smoking gun! We all know that Kate kept a journal we saw it on the show and read about it in her other books.......her copyrighting her journal doesn't prove it's the one Robert has does it?
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The timeline proves it and so does the fact that she sued Hoffman and Jon for "stealing" those files off her computer to write a book.
Other than Kate saying the exact words "Yes, Hoffman printed MY WORDS FROM MY PERSONAL JOURNAL" I don't think you can provide any more proof.
People have been convicted of murder and many other crimes based on less than a full confession. I think the evidence speaks for itself.
Gayle said... 57
Why doesn't Robert just write a "novel" based on true events?
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"Kate Gosselin- How She Fooled The World"
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Tucker's Mom said... 50
Coyne said Kate's covers while not *the* best sellers, are "up there", so yes, Kate sells People magazine.
Without the shitstorm that Kate's lovingly nurtured like a wet nurse, she'd be yesterday's news.
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lol. Well, when you put it that way...I'll have to rethink my opinion of Kate's magnetic draw of readers.
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The version with Maggie Smith? One of my favorite movies, and the song is hauntingly beautiful.
What a scaly, slimy, slithering snake she is! I am so very surprised she dragged the twins into this mess, though I shouldn't be. I bet she still has a huge stash of cash when they spoke and sold pictures, would not be surprised. I don't think she is short on money, back when she was friends with the Carson's, and the dough began rolling in, I bet that Beth's successful husband likely gave them advice, or pointed them to someone who does investing in stocks and gold, etc.
I do believe that TFW spent hours with her BBF daughters, getting more friendly and less motherly, brainwashing them against their dad. It makes me ill that they have turned against him, and what they said about the girl friends. I still can't believe that the very married bodyguard, gets away from being called a 'boyfriend' all these years. After Mexico-when she was waiting by the phone!-and that pose for Steve on the lounge chair in Australia or NZ, is when I decided he was doing her. Yet the twins think nothing of it, because Jon would not have been discussing it with them, which he should not been anyway. You don't talk to kids about things like that, it puts stress on their minds. I still can't believe all the twins said, floors me every time I read it! Jon must be so heartbroken. Imagine how things would be if it had been TFW who left the mansion, and Jon had stayed with the kids. I wish it would have been that way, the kids would likely be so different, with much less negative issues. She has ruined those 8 kids, just ruined them.
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Sad Fact said... 32
People Magazine bases that decision on numbers, not your assumptions. The 2013 cover featuring Kate and the kids was one of the highest sellers of the year.
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Paula Deen was also on that cover. Her racism scandal was hot news right at that time. Oprah also did an interview about herself about how she was falling apart, which was on that same cover as well.
Are you SURE it was Kate and the kids bringing in the sales?
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Thank you Auntie Ann for adding some perspective. It reminds me of the sheeple claiming that Kate's participation on DWTS gave them higher viewing numbers, without any actual proof that it was Kate people were tuning in for.
Maybe despite the fact that WOS was on the cover in 2013, People still sold more copies because people wanted to read about Paula Deen, or Oprah.
Just as I can't prove my statement, neither can the other side prove theirs that WOS sells magazines. My good common sense however, tells me it simply isn't possible that enough people would purchase a People magazine to read about someone they cannot stand.
Coyne is as adept a liar as her dear friend, WOS.
:-D PJ
At some point Jon stopped the filming but they still had school all day and filming resumed quickly again.
Wasn't the divorce in June of 2009? They would have been out of school by the end of May, and the filming was stopped in October of that year. Kate Plus 8 started filming in May of 2010, if I recall. What were they doing between October of 2009 and May of 2010?
Or am I way off?
prairiemary said... 64
What a scaly, slimy, slithering snake she is! I am so very surprised she dragged the twins into this mess, though I shouldn't be.
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Sadly you should be surprised this is KG we're talking about she using her kids for her own hateful gain and all she cares about is money and winning.
She is truly sick and vile.
Coyne said Kate's covers while not *the* best sellers, are "up there", so yes, Kate sells People magazine.
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lol!! Speaks volumes about People's demographics, doesn't it? Sheeple must really set the bar low when it comes to their reading material.
As far as Jon being hurt by the girl's words, perhaps.
On the other hand, maybe this comes as no surprise to him at all and he has heard as much or worse over the past year or so. He knows full well now how Kate rolls, and that she's bringing the twins along for as long as they'll allow right now may not be all that alarming to him.
I think his real heartbreak is that Kate entices his daughters to play this out in the media.
That truly is a bridge too far.
Agree. Robert always has reasons to stall. I understand his position is difficult, but I doubt this book will be re-released and edited.
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He posted that it has been edited: "It's been professionally edited and updated with additional stories not reported previously. "
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 32m
Ha...I got so many #Gross comments abt my slacks after wt loss. Teens were #Annoyed w/me 2get moving & buy skinny jeans! @Kateplusmy8 :)
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 13m
@MY_2BCOLLIES @Kateplusmy8 C & M's intervw just confirms they R typical teens..they love 2aggravate Kate..obviously love& respect their mom!
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Isn't this the one who was mad that her 18 y/o came in late..said "our house..our rules". Isn't she the one whose hubby made same boy I mean man "drop and do 20" for backtalk?
Speaking of which, she was tweeting before about how she and her idol teach their kids to Strive for Excellence (not mediocrity)...yet the last we heard about her son he graduated from HS and just got his drivers license. A little later she tweeted that he was already talking about getting an apartment. No mention whatsoever of college. She is full of sheeet
I don't think it's ever appropriate for any child to tell their mom ewww or gross. It's disrespectful, period. It's normal to be annoyed with parents at that age but that does not mean you check your manners and respect at the door.
On Couples Therapy tonight:
Sneak Preview of Episode 2
''The couples dive into their first group therapy session, where they each discuss the darkest moments in their past relationships and how that impacts them today.''
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I wonder what Jon will have to say. What can TFW do to top her using Jon's twins to bash their father? What will be her next #dontsayIdidntwarnyou nasty thing?
<=======Tucker's Mom - The diva collapsed and waiving his poor paw. It's not even that red anymore but he will milk it for all the extra treats he can get ( not to mention the hugs and pats).
I still believe that someone at People likes Kate and the talk (mostly negative) she brings along. Remember, publicity is what they are all about. It doesn't matter if it is good or bad. Attention is what Kate has been after. I believe she has been starving for attention all of her life. You notice we still hear from none of her relatives; not a sister, not a brother, not her father or mother, not a cousin, and as of late, there are no friends talking.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 73
I don't think it's ever appropriate for any child to tell their mom ewww or gross. It's disrespectful, period. It's normal to be annoyed with parents at that age but that does not mean you check your manners and respect at the door.
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I don't either. If (when) my daughter said something like that she is called on the carpet. You don't talk to ANYONE like that. But now all of a sudden Milo is OK with that? She sure can change her tune with the wind to agree with TFW
lol!! Speaks volumes about People's demographics, doesn't it? Sheeple must really set the bar low when it comes to their reading material.
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There's a reason why the average length of time it takes to read a People article is about the same length of time as taking a dump.
Katie's show (3pm pst) has update on Kate Gosselin & twins...................
I truly regret having ever watched J & K plus 8. I wish I didn't even know their names. Still remember the first time I felt "taken in" by these people. 59
You and me both.
I see what Robert is saying about not being upset with the twins but they are not toddlers. They are getting to an age where it's time to start being responsible for what comes out of your mouth. Even at 13 you can really hurt someone. I see no reason to name call but I think it is important to call them out. There's a difference. I think they do need to understand their words have consequences and that being a public figure, if this is what they'd like, comes with a lot of responsibility. The problem is at what age is it okay to say something about it? By that time it may be too late. It may be better they realize what they say is not right today, rather than at 16 or 18. And it just may give them something to think about in terms of who is brainwashing them to say this nonsense if they hear the general public did not appreciate it.
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@KellyJeanturner @MiloandJack @Kateplusmy8 Yes perfectly normal but best of all they are also respectful and caring and that's important:)
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What part of that interview was respectful? Saying Eww Gross to their mom? or caring? Calling A a rabid wild animal? Its just like when they call TFW positive and strong!! Opposite of reality!
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I totally agree and said so earlier.I'm sure they know what is right and wrong in this regard, having been victims of it themselves.
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Blowing In The Wind said... 63
Has anyone seen the film "The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie"? 6
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Fantastic film ( and book) I love Maggie Smith. Another more recent film she was wonderful in is My House in Umbria.
I see what Robert is saying about not being upset with the twins but they are not toddlers. They are getting to an age where it's time to start being responsible for what comes out of your mouth.
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This is true, but this really isn't a normal situation. I also think that they were Kate's puppets in all of this. They appear to have been coached. Don't you think that by now they have her all figured out -- know what will make her happy, and they try to please her by not disagreeing with her? I think that they know the consequences if they don't do as she says. I imagine she would have been a real spitfire if they didn't follow her script. After all, this was "don't say I didn't warn you" and it all went down to torment him.
Isn't this the one who was mad that her 18 y/o came in late..said "our house..our rules". Isn't she the one whose hubby made same boy I mean man "drop and do 20" for backtalk?
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If you believe she really has children. She's like Kate. She forgets the stories she's put out here. Either that, or she's so deep into her obsession with Kate that there are two sets of standards...one for Kate's household where Kate is perfect, and everything the kids do is normal, and one for her own family, where LOM rules with an iron fist.
I think they do need to understand their words have consequences and that being a public figure, if this is what they'd like, comes with a lot of responsibility.
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First they need a mother with some moral responsibility and oh maybe some parenting smarts.
Rule number one is to tell your children not to discuss private family matters outside the family or a therapist, or if necessary an authority figure who is in a position to help you if the other options aren't available. But seeing as though Kate's entire existence depends on blabbering her children's personal life to the public, that idea removes all hope they'll learn anything but the same from her.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 2h
@Kateplusmy8 So I put on my best #PositiveFace & did a cold sponge bath this mornin'! LOL Running water should be back by this evening! :)
Oh, good gawd. Now I have *that* vision in my head. I need a drink. Preferably a double.
By the way, how do you do a sponge bath without running water? Use a dry sponge, or bottled water?
Millicent said... 65
Just as I can't prove my statement, neither can the other side prove theirs that WOS sells magazines. My good common sense however, tells me it simply isn't possible that enough people would purchase a People magazine to read about someone they cannot stand.
Coyne is as adept a liar as her dear friend, WOS.
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This is exactly right. How would Coyne know what articles their readers buy the magazine for. Do they survey them after each publication? I doubt it.
Of course, Kate's sheep will jump right in and say KG on the cover sells the magazine. For all we know Kate Coyne was here to enlighten us about it.
Rhymes with Witch said... 80
I truly regret having ever watched J & K plus 8. I wish I didn't even know their names. Still remember the first time I felt "taken in" by these people. 59
You and me both
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Me to and I wish I never watched K+8 either god I loathe this woman now.
Well according to every single one, let me repeat that, every.single.one. of Kate's fans on twitter, all of their teens tell them they are annoying and gross. It's just the way they all tease each other. In fact, one fan was told at least twice while out to lunch that she was annoying. They always find a way to excuse everything that TFW does.
Tucker's Mom (78)...
There's a reason why the average length of time it takes to read a People article is about the same length of time as taking a dump.
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That's assuming that the sheeple can read. Maybe they just look at the pictures.
Oh, good gawd. Now I have *that* vision in my head. I need a drink. Preferably a double.
By the way, how do you do a sponge bath without running water? Use a dry sponge, or bottled water?
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LOL! Why did she share that on twitter? She's turning us into raging alcoholics.
And what a coincidence that Milo should have the same problem Kate had just days ago. Creepy how this person lives her life in a reflection of Kate's.
BTW, re: Kate Coyne on Katie C., Coyne did mention that that M+C were "13 going on 30". Katie C. seemed to nod knowingly.
Katie C. threw Coyne a softball question about the decision Kate made to put the twins on the cover and have them directly interviewed. Coyne of course was prepared for that talking point and said that since everyone says Kate is putting words into her kids' mouths, that the twins would speak for themselves.
Sort of, "see, if the twins concur with Kate, it MUST be true".
So there, you doubters!
Who of us at the tender, yet pedantic, age of 13 didn't know everything there is to know about everything, everywhere, at any time and forever to infinity?????
They were so supportive of Kate's authoritative parenting cause that's how you raise kids up right. Now that the kids are disrespectful and a pill, that's all fine and dandy with them.
I don't put a lot of weight in what Kate Coyne says. For all we know one of her better selling issues just means in the top 50%. It was her cover story and of course she wants to spin it that it did spectacular. Yet I didn't hear any actual numbers. Pony them up. She fancies herself as sort of a Gosselin expert has spoken about this saga many times and I think somewhere along the way journalism ethics were blurred and she started identifying with Kate. I think she has twins herself and took the comments personally when she shouldn't have. (No one was talking about YOU)
And she should know something. Just because you can doesn't mean you should. People could also sell a lot of magazines by putting a naked lady on the cover too. But that's not journalism nor is that a story, and neither was this.
Lauren @ljohnson2006 8 Jan
I'd hate to be someone who spreads hateful rumors and lies about @Kateplusmy8. I obviously live a more productive lie than the trolls
LOL!! One of the funniest comments a fan has made!
We know of at least once that he did -- When she took them to Australia, on HIS custody time, no less. The judge shot him down then. We don't know but what he's done it numerous times and been shot down each time. As Admin has pointed out, it becomes counter productive after a while.
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Thanks for the response, Bitchy Pants. Love your name!
How DID we discover Jon went to the judge to stop the kids from going to Australia? And if we discovered that, how come we can't discover any other times, if there are any, that Jon went to the court on behalf of his children?
Surely this stunt of Kate's would not be looked upon by the court as frivolous or counterproductive!
http://gosselinbook.blogspot.ca/ has an interesting "interview" style post. I wonder who's asking the questions?
PJ
If I had told my mother she was gross annoying and ewww I think this blog wouldn't be here because *I* wouldn't be here. Yeesh! At most I was permitted to say politely and quietly mom can you please not do that you're embarrassing me. Even that was pushing my luck. I am very sorry for the sheeple if they feel that it's okay to hear such disrespect from their own daughters. It's not. And unless you tell your child to watch their mouths and get some respect this kind of behavior will continue on and on to future generations.
I don't put a lot of weight in what Kate Coyne says. For all we know one of her better selling issues just means in the top 50%
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Kate and the kids are also a 2-page spread in the People Yearbook 2014.
There's a paragraph about their life almost going down the toilet when the show was canceled, but now Kate's a piecin' and a patchin' and kumbaya.......
Could Kate open her pie hole any further in these photos when she "smiles", btw? It's like she's on the verge of unhinging her jaw to swallow kittens or something.
So effin' fake.
We discovered it Greedy because Jon himself said so. He made a statement some time ago that he tried to stop the Australia trip but the judge shut him down because of their contract. Further we had the court docket that confirmed that. You can find the court docket we posted here awhile back that shows this man has brought her to court dozens of times and even once asked the judge to hold her in contempt. He has not sat on his hands and the docket proves it.
And unless you tell your child to watch their mouths and get some respect this kind of behavior will continue on and on to future generations.
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Kate fancies herself a mom much younger than 38. She's hip, she's cool, she's a bff.
Just wait until the 3 of them start dressing alike. Can't wait to see which one dyes their hair blonde.
13 going on 30 is not a good thing. It's a sign of parentification.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 2h
@Kateplusmy8 So I put on my best #PositiveFace & did a cold sponge bath this mornin'! LOL Running water should be back by this evening! :)
Milo, I know you read her so I want to give you a tip. If you're using bottled water for your sponge bath (and i assume you are because you had two "busted pipes")' guess what...it doesn't have to be cold! You can heat it gently on the stove so that it's a nice warm temperature, pour it in the sink and voilĂ a warm sponge bath. You're welcome.
I'm wondering if this People magazine will sell, or whether people will be turning them around in the racks again. I won't get any info from DS#2 (the one who works at Costco). He works summers and school breaks, but now is back at college.
NJGAL51,
I love the pic of your little drama queen (king)! Pets are so entertaining, aren't they? My little psycho kitty (Lucy) was spastic with glee at all the boxes and gift bag from Christmas. She loves to take a running start and dive headfirst into them. We didn't have the heart to throw them all out, and just left a bunch of them scattered all over for her. Once they are destroyed by rough play, they go into the recycling bin. Sadly for her, they were all gone (and my house looks so clean without them!). But...today a delivery man showed up with a box for me to sign for. Lucy spotted the box in his hands and came tearing down the hallway and tried to scramble up his leg, trying to get at that box. Freaked him out! Once I unpacked the box (with a howling kitty at my feet), I put the box on the floor, and she went wild! She stalks it first--peeking around the corner from the back hall, getting ready to spring, then shoots out across the floor and dives in so there's just her back legs and twitching tail sticking out. Then she backs out, scrambles down the hall, and does it all over again. She's more entertaining than TV.
13 going on 30 is not a good thing. It's a sign of parentification. 100
So much for "just being kids."
They have become her "besties" and her confidants.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 98
If I had told my mother she was gross annoying and ewww I think this blog wouldn't be here because *I* wouldn't be here
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LOL I wouldn't even able to form my lips into saying that to my mom.
The thing is, my dd was disrespectful to me at 13. She had been a happy, cooperative kid til her sm brainwashed her. But guess what. She got the door taken off her room, the phone taken away, grounded, and sent to therapy. Left unchecked, especially if/when the twins' wants exceed what TFW is willing or able to provide (because it WILL just increase), "you're so annoying" will turn into "you're such a bitch" and "fuck you" in the later teen years.
13 is barely a teenager.
If I had told my mother she was gross annoying and ewww I think this blog wouldn't be here because *I* wouldn't be here.
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Nor would I. I was reading Milo's tweets and some of the other sheeples' comments, and I'm thinking...this is okay with them? It's normal among teens? I never called my parents "annoying" -- it never entered my mind, probably because they weren't annoying and also because we learned at a very young age to be respectful.
Still, had I said that, the fur would have flown and you can be darned sure I wouldn't have said it again.
I don't know how many copies Kate's covers sell but I did read this article that says her stories get a lot of hits on their website. I believe the hits mainly come from the "haters" and "sheeple". I doubt the non-fans buy the actual magazine. I know I don't.
http://www.people.com/people/package/article/0,,20755963_20767441,00.html
Tucker's Mom said... 101
And unless you tell your child to watch their mouths and get some respect this kind of behavior will continue on and on to future generations.
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Kate fancies herself a mom much younger than 38. She's hip, she's cool, she's a bff.
Just wait until the 3 of them start dressing alike. Can't wait to see which one dyes their hair blonde.
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It's time to revisit the clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZP2NpFC5P48
LOL! Why did she share that on twitter? She's turning us into raging alcoholics.
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Is that worse than being a mellow alcoholic?
Great...now admin posts this:
"People could also sell a lot of magazines by putting a naked lady on the cover too."
Now I have the vision of a People cover showing Milo giving herself a dry sponge bath.
Auntie, send that Saint Bernard over here.
Love Lucy the cat! Great energy!
Brian wants you to know how real Reality TV really is. Threats from Network & RadarOnLine? You betcha! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOdClw0J9g0&feature=player_embedded
Paula Deen was also on that cover. Her racism scandal was hot news right at that time. Oprah also did an interview about herself about how she was falling apart, which was on that same cover as well.65
The Paula Deen scandal was HUGE for a time. Tfw was old news.
Rhymes with Witch said... 105
13 going on 30 is not a good thing. It's a sign of parentification. 100
So much for "just being kids."
They have become her "besties" and her confidants.
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Just wait a year or two down the road when Kate tries to discipline her besties. Hoo boy to be a fly on the wall........ I'm sure they already have plenty of friends *they need a mother*
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I always thought Kate Gosselin exploited her kids, but this glowing People cover story about her 13-yr old twins really opened my eyes. AK
Please inform me as to where one can read comments by that person, Robert (?) who was writing a book about Kate? Sorry, I don't know how you all find all the reading you write about. (I'm embarrassed to be such a ninny.)
"you're so annoying" will turn into "you're such a bitch" and "fuck you" in the later teen years.
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Don't forget.
I hate you.
You ruined my life or I wish I was never born.
I can't wait till I turn 18 so I can leave/move out.
Admin -- I'm with you. If I'd even looked like I planned to say something like that to either of my parents, I might as well start planning my funeral, because it would be imminent.
Layla, loved the story about your kitty and the boxes. I had a kitty once who adored boxes and who couldn't keep her paws off of tissues or toilet paper. One night I was awakened by a terrible racket coming from the living room. I was sure someone was breaking in. I grabbed the cordless phone and slunk down the hall, quaking in my slippers. There in the living room, banging into furniture and knocking things over, was my kitty, with her head stuck in a tissue box. Took both of us an hour or two to recover from that one.
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