Weren't Kathie Lee and Hoda bashing Kate over that cover? Aren't they part of the Today show? Kathie Lee also spoke out years ago about Kate's rudeness at a taping. Boggles the mind.
Carole said... 171 I'm sick to my stomach. Whoever said the People arrticle and cover were just a precursor to even bigger exploitation of the twins was right. \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
(Raising my hand) That was me!
Something is up. There are plans in the works for these girls. Whatever those plans may be, Jon seems really pissed.
Lindsay Lohan made Parent Trap in 1998. She didn't make another movie until 2003 with Freaky Friday. The 5 year break was supposed to allow her to have normal teenage high school years. And THAT didn't even work. My heart breaks for the twins and whatever Kate has up her sleeve for them. Kids should never be the breadwinners. Kids shouldn't be made to feel like it's up to them to maintain their parents ridiculous standard of living. Kids should never have the weight of the world on their shoulders. Kids should never feel like they have to do their parent's bidding to feel loved and accepted.
In a weird way it's kind on hysterical Kate keeps talking about the kids wanting to film and then Jon has to say actually I asked them and that's nonsense. Is there an offer on the table to film them?
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Remember the episode where she took the twins to that talent agency and the woman more or less told Kate to shut her yap, she was doing the talking and then after interviewing them she said the girls didn't have much to offer in the way of talent which really pissed Kate off.
So what's changed? Have they been taking acting lessons?
Gosselin Book @GosselinBook 6m Is @Kateplusmy8 the worst mother in all of entertainment? We'll know tomorrow if she exploits her twin 13-yr-old daughters on @TODAYshow.
Kate is a twit said... 7 Nancy said... 1 Correct me if I'm wrong but is not one of the ONLY times TFW has announced an appearance BEFORE it happens??? ==============
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I also think that she may think that although people don't care about her they will tune in to see the twins... sick and twisted either way!!!
While the stah and her daughters are on tour, just who is minding the other six? Kate needs to remember that on her never ending quest for fame during the uber-busy DWTS schedule she neglected the kids to the point where two of them got temporarily dismissed from kindergarten.
(Leslie) Was Jon even interviewed for the"In Touch" magazine? If the twins or Kate make reference to the things he said in that magazine then Kate should be reminded that she herself said that all tabloids are trash and say incorrect things. I bet she let the twins and/or the tups read that article like it was the gospel truth. But no doubt she hides all the other tabloids from her kids that have bad articles about her.
And I do hope the twins friends say bad things to the twins about these interviews? Why, because maybe their peers can open their eyes to the truth. It seems like Kate has them brainwashed that they are flawless and loved by millions and also brainwashed towards any truth their father may tell them.
They don't seem to understand that you don't get a TV show by groveling on the today show or the View. You get the show first through an audition or other negotiations behind the scenes and ThEN you do the talk show circuit to promote. They're doing this all backwards, and it's embarrassing. They have nothing to peddle but their family drama and begging for things they don't deserve or qualify for. I've never seen celebs get so much screen time for so little. At least Jon is doing the circuit to promote CT. At least his appearances actually make sense in the world of celebrity promotion. What a world!
I loathe this "woman" and "her" entire brand! said... 147
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Kate is reaping what she has sown. When your attention is more on a personal vendetta and not on your kids well being then there is so much trouble ahead for all eight of those kids. She is sick and needs to be stopped. If it means going on national TV to garner attention to what's going on in that house of horrors that Kate has built, then so be it. Her house needs to crumble. The kids will be OK because they have Jon. It's not like they have no where to go.
Sorry, but the sooner the truth hits the sunlight, the sooner the kids can get help. Kate is very lost in her insanity so there's really no hope for her.
Kate Gosselin is 10x worse then Kris Jenner God I'm really stating to dislike Kate less and less.
And as I said once be for she will never ever stop using her children unless someone stops her rather it be Jon or a Judge hell even then I bet she won't stop.
Amazing. Who at the Today Show thinks these 2 teens from PA, privileged girls from private school, no discernible talents, no amazing feats of rescue or charity, no hook but a fame whore mother looking to pimp them out, who thinks these girls have anything worthy of interest to entertain an adult morning talk show audience? I seriously do not understand this.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 13 They don't seem to understand that you don't get a TV show by groveling on the today show or the View _______
How can they understand when mom begs for a show every chance she gets?
I bet Kate told the girls "well I've asked and it didn't work so maybe if you ask nicely and say how much you miss it a producer will give us a show"
It's getting to the point where I'm afraid to press the "refresh" button on this blog -- who knows what horrors await?
Oh, you better believe that heads-up about tomorrow was a big ol' middle finger from TFW to her ex. But you've gotta love this: the Today show appearance will surely create more negative buzz than anything her ex may say or do on CT tomorrow might. Unless he tosses a puppy into a volcano, he'll look like Pa Ingalls in comparison.
Dmsay -- blessings to you. So sorry to hear about what's been a long and difficult time for you. I always enjoy your comments, and hope the challenging period comes to a close soon. Hang in there.
Actually Auntie Ann I'll raise my hand. I thought the People cover was going to be one and done, at least for a longer while. Thinking back on it now, all the promotion of the twins being a part of the crookbook editing and photography coupled with the tweets about Mady's movie making and theatrics has me second guessing myself.
You see! He can't disappear and live a private life, she's not letting him! Next Kardashians? Not in this lifetime. What a Delusional, ubserd, wine induced fantasy is she living in?
Not sure if my last post went thru, blogger said someting abou double editing??
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Yes I see Kate did do a pre-announcement of the girls being on the Today show.
Kate always said she couldnt make pre-announcements of her appearances because it was too dangerous.
I guess Kate's not as concerned about the danger she's putting her girls in. ( ya, I know, we have all sadly come to realize that.... )
Okay, I am thinking to the Child Labour law/amendments that came into play in Pennsylvania in Jan 2013. The school would have had to agree to this in order for the girls to get a work permit, right? I also thought there were some strict rules about filming and when it could occur. Perhaps that didnt include 1 time shots?
This is exploitation, and I thought the law had been formed to stop this crap from happening!
Amazing. Who at the Today Show thinks these 2 teens from PA, privileged girls from private school, no discernible talents, no amazing feats of rescue or charity, no hook but a fame whore mother looking to pimp them out, who thinks these girls have anything worthy of interest to entertain an adult morning talk show audience? I seriously do not understand this. ------------------------------------------------------
Or who at the Today Show , knowing of the battle that's playing out in the media between the exes right now, thinks it's responsible to allow two young teens to have a public voice in this sordid post divorce nonsense.
And I do hope the twins friends say bad things to the twins about these interviews? Why, because maybe their peers can open their eyes to the truth. It seems like Kate has them brainwashed that they are flawless and loved by millions and also brainwashed towards any truth their father may tell them.
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Sorry, I don't agree. The last thing they need is being torn apart by their peers for doing interviews. They're already being manipulated by their mother who is poisoning their minds against their father. Why would they believe anything their peers would tell them -- their mother most likely prepares them for anything they would say to the twins, throwing in the jealousy thing. Those kids would be so confused.
You know I'm thinking god knows how much she has tried to push auditions and things on them behind the scenes. When none of that ever panned out which would be expected, she resorts to begging on national tv. Not only is she teaching these kids to be spoiled and cruel but they are also learning to check your dignity at the door.
Kate is a twit said... 6 Robert broke his long twitter silence to tweet:
Gosselin Book @GosselinBook 6m Is @Kateplusmy8 the worst mother in all of entertainment? We'll know tomorrow if she exploits her twin 13-yr-old daughters on @TODAYshow.
Oh, .Robert...if anyone thought that maybe Kate couldn't be nearly as bad as the way she was presented in your book, this latest exploit of hers has removed all doubt.
I think some publicist hack she's probably hired with the kids' money told her if she's serious about making a go with the twins she needs to get serious about twitter stop being so lazy and take 10 seconds out of her oh so busy day of doing absolutely nothing other than keep her kids alive to actually announce their appearances ahead of time. She promoted People too, this is a new leaf for her.
She announced this because: middle finger to Jon; wants people to tune in; and wants pap coverage. I bet she has even hired a pap to be there in the morning.
Kate tweeted this announcement because she wants everybody to tune in to how she has coached the girls, from dispelling Jon's WW interview to begging to be back on TV.
OT: time for my shameless begging! Vote for Shaka Smart in the espn Coaches Challenge and help a worthy charity providing direct services to children! voteshaka.com #shameless begging #Go VCU! I've been in morning all day because my beloved vcu rams lost to the George Washington Patriots last night. Le Sigh.
Okay, I am thinking to the Child Labour law/amendments that came into play in Pennsylvania in Jan 2013
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They're not filming in PA. The PA child labor laws govern filming in this state. Whether a one-time guest appearance on a television show out of state is considered "working," I have no idea.
Beyond Disgusted, The View announced Kate and the kids will be on their show on Monday.
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Yes, I know. My bad. I wasn't clear in my post. I was responding to another poster who commented that Kate would be spending the weekend rehearsing the kids for Monday's show. I meant that there's no need to wait for the weekend, they're probably cramming tonight. Sorry.
As painful as this teeny media tour is to fathom, what really is her end game, besides sticking it to Jon? A show for the girls? Won't he have to sign off on anything besides these appearances? My head hurts.
Dmasy - Blogger is swiffering some of my posts. I've been waiting for it to show up but I'll post it again...
... I'm sorry about your beloved pup and your BIL as well as your house problems. 2013 tried it's best to knock you down, but look at you. You're still standing. Hang in there girlie, the sun will shine again. Best wishes and good thoughts are sent your way.
hater hater @BuzzedBunny 32s @Kateplusmy8 @TODAYshow Mady & Cara Gosselin ROCK'N the TODAY SHOW ! What could be more awesome ?
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Good gawd, they are nuts, or else just poking at the haters. Yes, sir, nothing more awesome than using your children to get back at their father. We should all be that awesome.
Sheeple not only can't see the whole picture, but they're idiots as well.
He has every right to correct his children as he sees fit, but a national talk show is not the vehicle through which that should occur.
Exactly. This is getting out of control now. Jon got whatever message he wanted to put out there, more than once, and continuing this is just 2009 tit for tat silliness. Does he really want all this to play out for his kids to watch in reruns? The guy is so confusing. Says one thing but does another.
Again, Kate's a lost cause, so it's up to Jon to end this immature battle of the twits before someone REALLY gets hurt. Obviously Jon needs more therapy.
New York Child Entertainment Laws updated Jan 1, 2014.
yes they need a work permit. models under 18 need permit from educational authorities/ Performer 16-17 needs employment certificate/ performers under 16 need permit from mayor or chief executive
o obtain certificates and permits need: written parental consent (exceptions for emancipated children), proof of age, and a certificate of physical fitness; separate procedures are in effect for New York City and for the remainder of the State. Sec. 7-7.1 Estates, Powers and Trusts Law - Courts may require a portion of earnings be set aside for the minor in a trust.
When none of that ever panned out which would be expected, she resorts to begging on national tv. Not only is she teaching these kids to be spoiled and cruel but they are also learning to check your dignity at the door.
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I've been having the same thought that she is really no different than a pan-handler. There are a lot of things she could be doing but it's easier to get hand outs. I really don't know which is worse - her entitlement issues or her laziness. But to show her kids how to do it too? Oy. There are no words.
I guess this means that the not-a-contest winners won't be announced any time soon, or the Nicole author person's book isn't going to get a testimonial this month.
Hi Dmasy, good to hear from you. So sorry about all the stressful events. Glad this blog can be a distraction. Testing new avatar. Time to put away all the Christmas decorations, and fully engage with NCAA basketball.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 33 You know I'm thinking god knows how much she has tried to push auditions and things on them behind the scenes. When none of that ever panned out which would be expected, she resorts to begging on national tv. Not only is she teaching these kids to be spoiled and cruel but they are also learning to check your dignity at the door. $$$$
What's worse, anything they may attempt surely will fail, crushing their young self esteem. Nothing against the girls, it's just that the Gosselin name is not really beloved. Like their parents, the girls have nothing to bring to the table. People know and accept that they were fooled by J&K+8. They were fooled by the fakeness of the whole sham and disgusted by the tabloid divorce. Famous for being famous is really getting old for most of America.
The only job Mady and Cara need to have is being teenagers in rural PA. Period.
Red @Retrogirl66 6m What time Thurs? Credits on tv schedule do not show them?? >>>. “@Kateplusmy8: Cara & Mady are SO honored to be on @TODAYshow tomorrow
Oh, my word. Look at your television schedule and see what time the Today show airs! I need a drink. Again.
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I just checked the calendar for Cara and Mady's school. The two Go$$elin girls DO HAVE SCHOOL on Thursday, 1-16; on Friday, 1-17 AND on Monday, 1- 20. Witch-face Khate is taking them out of school to go a'fame-whoring. F-ing great.
Mady and Cara will become fair game now, but please lets not make them fair game on this blog.
They are only 13. They may have been to many places in the world but they are not world-ly. They are not even very street wise I imagine.
I believe they are doing what they need to do to survive in the world in which they live. Not one of us here truly knows what it is like to live at the kompound.
This is the result of decisions their parents have made on their behalf. I highly doubt M or C called up the Today show or people magazine.
Lets not rip these girls apart on this blog, please! I thought we were all here because we were concerned about their well being!
PA Dutch Mom said... 186 Well, I guess Kate isn't at the Paying For College presentation at school tonight! She'll have those kids in the entertainment industry, earning their own way through college, come hell or high water ********************************************************************************
Can any of the locals enlighten us as to the kids' school take on missing school like this? I'm going to assume there's a little more wiggle room in a private school. I know my granddaughter's public school in TN is very strict, will make referrals to the truancy department if the child has one or two absences for non-medical reasons.
It always amazed me how Kate had the stamina to keep putting herself out there to recapture fame and easy money knowing the criticism that ensues every time she appears publicly. That she would invite that into the kids' lives on that same quest classifies her as a whole new category of unbalanced.
I'm behind but Jon?? Where are you and what are you doing to stop this?
After all the hate and critics' vitriol Kate has received, both on blogs and twitter, and she thinks putting her young daughters on talk shows IS A GOOD DECISION?
If we here are upset about it, can you imagine how upset Jodi and Kevin must be about this new development? Wow.
Are there no labor laws in PA to stop this from happening?
Sorry, I don't agree. The last thing they need is being torn apart by their peers for doing interviews
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I agree. Kate would say, "Who are you going to listen to...your classmates who know nothing, or your mom who knows best? Ignore them. They're just jealous."
Awhile back, the non-fans treated Milo as sort of a buffoon, annoying and crazy, but she was tolerated and poked fun at. I think that now not only the haters, but some of the sheeple as well, are fed up with her delusional obsession.
Can any of the locals enlighten us as to the kids' school take on missing school like this? I'm going to assume there's a little more wiggle room in a private school. I know my granddaughter's public school in TN is very strict, will make referrals to the truancy department if the child has one or two absences for non-medical reasons.
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What do you want to bet the school is fed up with her? The woman is a nightmare. I can't imagine the number of times they've had to deal with her regarding the kids absentees and other issues that we'll never know about. She is so freaking out of control at this point they're probably ready to throw their hands up and say to hell with it, let her have her way we have a school to run here.
We don't know what was decided in court regarding Kate putting the kids on television, but does she need Jon's permission for them to be paraded around in television media, even though they aren't technically working?
The twins are 13yrs not 18yrs old I say leave them alone especially after finding out about Kate's abusive and manipulative behaviour we don't know how scared she has her kids.
Something I find interesting is that the girls are being 'presented' on a morning talk show instead of actually going to cattle calls and open and private auditions. If they had any kind of agent/manager they wouldn't be put on display saying "here I am, offer me a show", instead, they would be showing what they can do like every other professional does. Heck, even Jennifer Garner, Drew Barrymore, and others have to audition for what they want, and they have the chops and resume propping them up.
What do those girls have. Sure, they aren't ugly - that's good, but the only claim to fame they have is being the older sisters to a set of sextuplets.
She's marketing the twins the same way Kris Jenner marketed the Kardashian girls. They had no talent and even today are only famous for being famous. *The Gosselin twins: what talent do they have, what training, what paying their dues on smaller jobs before doing a People cover or Today appearance have the twins done? *The Jenner girls started the same way. They were trotted out on tv and in magazines and became famous (infamous?) for basically just being a part of the family. Sound familiar, so far? *The Jenner girls got their first runway jobs without going through any of the usual casting calls or training other beginning models do. They got their first jobs because of their name. Same with the twins.
This stinks of the exact same technique that Kris used with her family and I don't think it bodes well for any of the G8, especially the twins with the strange/unhealthy bond she has with them - the 3 of them against the world, BFFs. There's no way now that the twins will ever say they don't want to be on tv after the special treatment and attention they've been given the past couple of months. No way. The ship has sailed and TFW is at the helm. What remains to be seen is who is managing them and I'll bet it's not TFW - she's too stupid and lazy to do it herself. She's hired someone to help her pimp them out to the highest bidder.
So two days dedicated to talk shows in NYC - two school days at that. And for what? To chat about being teenagers? Anyone here think they're going home between gigs? I have no answers, but remain thoroughly disgusted.
Meagler, do not act as if Cara and Mady are helpless to stop this.That is crap.
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I totally disagree. I don't think it's crap. I would think that if Kate says, "You do this," then they do it or face her wrath. God only knows what life would be like in that household if they refused. Penalty of severeness, I would bet.
Are there no labor laws in PA to stop this from happening?
Not that I know of. The new laws have to do with filming in PA only. If they go to New York, Virginia, or wherever, they are under their labor laws there. What kind of law in PA would prevent a minor from making a television appearance in another state? It's out of PA's jurisdiction, and I'm not even sure if another state's labor laws would apply since they aren't really filming. It's a guest appearance.Those laws would have to be reviewed before a determination could be made.
chefsummer, I disagree with you on this. These two are NOT scared of Kate. They are her BFF's. Probably her only true BFF's. And at least one of the two wants fame more than anything else. The other? I don't know what her game plan is--maybe she likes the nice things too?
I guess this is piecing and patching. What's next for these girls? The entire talk show circuit for $$$? I think people are curious as to what they will reveal about their parent, not really interested in two ordinary barely-teens and their opinions on 'everything teenager.' From what we saw on KC, Cara is sullen and Mady a diva who sulks when she doesn't get her way. That's entertainment?
That she would invite that into the kids' lives on that same quest classifies her as a whole new category of unbalance
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Yes, indeed. It's one thing to put herself out there, knowing how much she is hated but not caring as long as her face is on television. It's another to know this, and yet drag her daughters into the sordid mess for the same scrutiny. Mind boggling, isn't it?
Well, welcome to Kate new years resolution: using the twins to get a reality show. Her new direction! Like I said many times, Kate will fly under the radar, and put the kids on TV, and not tell Jon till after the fact. When it's too late to go to family court to stop. Jon has his hands full. Kate thinks she is entitled to do whatever she wants, she is above the law. Kate does not care if those kids miss school. SHAME ON HER! So those kids are missing 3 + days of school, just so she can get her mug on TV. This is a-hole revenge. Kates new direction use kids to get revenge against Jon. I hope it blows up in her face. Jon was right: Kate is an asshole! 100%, she is using kids for her own gain. It's almost beyond words! Nobody wants to see entitled, rich kids, especially teens on TV. There is a rich kids of LA coming on soon, on TV, more crap.
Are there no labor laws in PA to stop this from happening?
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PA laws don't matter. This is filming in NY. They have very good labor laws, but they don't protect from this kind of dysfunction and parental alienation and using your kids as pawns. No law that I've ever seen can really be written precisely enough to guard against that. Nor do they guard against children who have spent their entire lives working or being used as long as they followed the law on each individual day. There is no law that says once you've put in a total of X amount of hours of all hours of your life being exploited on T.V. or twitter or elsewhere you can't be exploited anymore. There should be. There should be a lifetime max.
two days dedicated to talk shows in NYC - two school days at that. And for what? To chat about being teenagers? Anyone here think they're going home between gigs?
I suppose it's possible that The View appearance on Monday is being taped tomorrow and they will only be interrupting one school week rather than two. Nahhh, that's too much to hope for.
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I think that is EXACTLY why they will be on the TODAY show tomorrow morning, to capitalize on what is going on in the tabloids. What could the Gosselin twins possibly have to offer the viewers tomorrow morning other than their physical changes, you are right, this is utter nonsense!
Yeeegads! Kate will stop at nothing..vitriol unleashed, running rampant. The girls ARE fair game. VANESSA, I am in total agreement. I didn't know that Jon was muzzled, by TLC. I thought he was too nice a guy, and was doing his best for the kids, post his eviction, but now? Why should he not curtail her loathsome tactics? Why should he not be heard? For too long, she has controlled everything. Take her down.
As for the show tomorrow...and the View next week...if she is coddled, there is zero intelligence in the world of media. Also, who is left on the View with even a shred of acumen, but Whoopi? If people (and some do) purport to believe TFW's saga of lies, they have never watched her shows. You'd have to be blind and deaf to believe a single thing she has to say.
I am thinking to the Child Labour law/amendments that came into play in Pennsylvania in Jan 2013. The school would have had to agree to this in order for the girls to get a work permit, right? I also thought there were some strict rules about filming and when it could occur. Perhaps that didnt include 1 time shots?
I wonder if a news/interview type show qualifies the same as having a role on a program. I'm leaning towards there being a difference and permits not needed for something like Today. AND, if they'd want to get around the permit they might say TFW was the only actual guest and if Today pays for this appearance then only issue payment to her and not the girls. Two birds killed with one stone - not needing a permit and not having to pay the twins. That would certainly appeal to TFW.
Just a little request, we've been generous with the comments and letting them go through. People are passionate and want to discuss all this and I've not wanted to hinder that too much. However in light of the girls being more public for now, please be more restrained than you would be with an adult. I'm not going to ask people to not comment on them if they are going to be public figures or to hold something back that is valid, but I am going to ask that if there is another way to make your point that is gentler, please do that. I think we need to keep in mind that they are old enough to seek out public opinion about their new public personas, and if they ever do read things about them here or elsewhere I don't think it will be helpful to them to just spout off in anger, even though I sense most of the anger is rightly directed at the adults in this mess. They may however take to heart something that is said in a respectful and calm manner, or at least give it a thought.
And as always if you have an issue with the comments please don't post a passive aggressive anonymous attack. That isn't productive for anyone especially when I never publish anonymous anymore. Compile your concerns and email them to us. We will read them.
Just a little request, we've been generous with the comments and letting them go through. People are passionate and want to discuss all this and I've not wanted to hinder that too much. However in light of the girls being more public for now, please be more restrained than you would be with an adult. I'm not going to ask people to not comment on them if they are going to be public figures or to hold something back that is valid, but I am going to ask that if there is another way to make your point that is gentler, please do that. I think we need to keep in mind that they are old enough to seek out public opinion about their new public personas, and if they ever do read things about them here or elsewhere I don't think it will be helpful to them to just spout off in anger, even though I sense most of the anger is rightly directed at the adults in this mess. They may however take to heart something that is said in a respectful and calm manner, or at least give it a thought.
And as always if you have an issue with the comments please don't post a passive aggressive anonymous attack. That isn't productive for anyone especially when I never publish anonymous anymore. Compile your concerns and email them to us. We will read them.
This is the result of decisions their parents have made on their behalf. I highly doubt M or C called up the Today show or people magazine.
Lets not rip these girls apart on this blog, please! I thought we were all here because we were concerned about their well being! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, Meagler. 'Fair game' or not, these are children we're discussing. And WE are the adults. Just because their parents can't seem to shut up and their mother is throwing them to the wolves, doesn't mean we have to BE the wolves and take the bait.
I wonder if a news/interview type show qualifies the same as having a role on a program.
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I had THE SAME THOUGHT. Does this even qualify under child labor laws? Local news shows interview kids all the time and I don't hear anything about permits, payment, a comfortable set, or anything that implies it's like acting with all the protections of acting. Usually it's so short I guess it wouldn't be an issue, but it begs the question what if a news program did an ongoing series following around certain kids for some reason (like the old Class of 2000 segments from the 90's). Would child labor laws kick in or not? Does 60 Minutes pay their kid subjects or make sure they don't work past certain hours? I really doubt it.
This looks like yet another loose end in child labor laws that no one has really cleaned up, just like reality T.V. was.
The problem too is this is supposed to be "news" as loose as that term is. You're not supposed to pay people to be on a show that is news and it is a fact that many of them don't. I even remember when I was helping with book guests some of them would be angry we wouldn't pay and couldn't believe it but our answer was the same every time, sorry we do not pay guests it is a conflict of interest. Yet I think many people believe minors should always be paid for doing any work like this, including me.
I really wonder how Cara is going to feel about all this when suddenly she has to miss her first lacrosse game to go do an appearance. She may change her tune.
All this talk about kids going to college isn't going to happen if Kate keeps pulling them out of the school. Don't have the grades, don't get admitted to college.
I'm behind but Jon?? Where are you and what are you doing to stop this?
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You can't snap your fingers and get a court date. If he just found out about this, he would not be able to get a court date tomorrow. Monday is a court holiday. We're looking at Tuesday or Wednesday before most "emergency" hearings would even have a chance at being heard. It would be done and over with by then.
And the anonymous poster who keeps posting about legal custody clearly doesn't understand what legal custody means. Just because one or the other parent may have legal custody doesn't mean the other parent can't share their concerns with the court. Legal custody doesn't mean you have the right to take your kid out of school four days a week or consent to a lypo procedure or boob job for their young child or do other crazy things. The other parent has every right to complain to family law court if the parent is making decisions that are detrimental, legal or not. It means the legal parent can MAKE the decision without consulting the other parent, it does not mean the other parent can't protest their decision in court if it's something crazy. Best interest ALWAYS trumps everything and a judge will always hear complaints if they are valid.
And if Kate really had such control about this in terms of legal matters, then why not just tell Jon what is going on? Why does she hide it? Wouldn't she love to just rub it in as long as possible? She hides it because she knows he has every right to run to court if her "legal" decisions are detrimental. She knows it.
How do we even know that they'll be "in studio" tomorrow? It may well be a Skype interview and may be something that was pre recorded. I read that Tracy & Lanny Barnes are supposed to be on with an "exclusive live interview" tomorrow. Now those twins actually bring something to the table. Hey, maybe TFW will announce the names of the not a contest winners.
Dmasy, let me add my prayers to all the others flying your way. Hopefully things will be looking up for you soon.
It's amazing how all this is putting Jon's frustration in context. We're all spouting off and frustrated too, how can I ask their FATHER to be anything else?
I feel kind of bad I was so hard on him over the infamous driveway peeing interview. I see now what he was so vexed about. He was a man furious that this woman was revving up for her big comeback tour, the twins front and center. He took a deep breath, calmed down, and gave a great interview to WW, getting his points across in a calm and rational manner. He pulled it together. Clutch.
I suppose it's possible that The View appearance on Monday is being taped tomorrow and they will only be interrupting one school week rather than two. Nahhh, that's too much to hope for.
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I wish I had the answer for you, but I don't. I only know that if she takes them to North Carolina and films the crap out of them, and NC has no child labor laws, PA can't do a thing about it. Frustrating, isn't it?
Not that I know of. The new laws have to do with filming in PA only. If they go to New York, Virginia, or wherever, they are under their labor laws there
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Anyone remember that reality show Kid Nation? They fled to Arizona or something to get away from California. It's like anything and the law, people will always go to a jurisdiction that is friendly to them and there's nothing their home state can do about it.
That's why some people say we need national child labor laws. Of course then they'll go to foreign countries. Terrible.
Like I said many times, Kate will fly under the radar, and put the kids on TV, and not tell Jon till after the fact
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She announced it on Twitter tonight. It's not after the fact. I'm sure by now he read about it. If she didn't want him finding out about it, she would have kept quiet.
What do you want to bet the school is fed up with her?
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Remember when Kristin what's her face from those vampire movies was whining about how her teachers didn't know how to help her?
I had the same thought I bet those teachers were FED UP with having to cater to that millionaire star's every whim and scheduling conflict. I bet they were actually interested in the children who wanted to focus on the only job a child should ever have, their education. Why should they drop everything to help her if school isn't her priority?
We're looking at Tuesday or Wednesday before most "emergency" hearings would even have a chance at being heard. __________________________________________________
When the court is closed on weekdays, nights, weekends or holidays, an emergency protection from abuse order may be granted by the Magisterial District Justice, a master for emergency relief, or in Philadelphia, a bail commissioner.
So what's Jon's excuse? He simply can NOT allow the girls to humiliate themselves on television. Please, Jon, do SOME thing!
SHAME ON HER! So those kids are missing 3 + days of school, just so she can get her mug on TV.
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How do you figure three plus days, unless she extends this tour into next week (sigh...don't even want to think about it)? They miss tomorrow if they come back at the end of the day; if not, perhaps part of Friday. Monday is a day off for MLK day.
I've been having the same thought that she is really no different than a pan-handler. There are a lot of things she could be doing but it's easier to get hand outs. I
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No different except for one thing at least the panhandler owns that they are asking for a handout and doesn't try to pretend that's not what is really happening. I would have more respect for Kate if she held a cup out and shook it. I might even give her something just because I'd be so happy she finally owned it.
She announced it on Twitter tonight. It's not after the fact. I'm sure by now he read about it. If she didn't want him finding out about it, she would have kept quiet.
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No, it's not that she doesn't want him finding out. She WANTS him to know because this is all about sticking it to him. But, she just doesn't want him to find out in time to get a court date. He can't get a court date now. Court are closed and lawyers have gone home. She announced it just in time for his attorney to shut off her work cell, close her work email and head home to her kids. She announced it just in time for it to be too late to run to court.
When the court is closed on weekdays, nights, weekends or holidays, an emergency protection from abuse order may be granted by the Magisterial District Justice, a master for emergency relief, or in Philadelphia, a bail commissioner.
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That's typically for a restraining order, if someone is going to seriously injure you or even kill you. That's typically not for nasty family law disputes unless you're trying to leave the country with the kids or something. This is no way shape or form would ever qualify for that. This would not be an "emergency" by any stretch of the imagination in any court I've ever been in. As much as it may be an emergency to us, that's not how court works. They deal with hundreds of thousands of family law disputes like this a day and only a scant few are classified as true emergencies to open the courts, and usually involve the child's life.
What do you want to bet the school is fed up with her? The woman is a nightmare. I can't imagine the number of times they've had to deal with her regarding the kids absentees and other issues that we'll never know about. She is so freaking out of control at this point they're probably ready to throw their hands up and say to hell with it, let her have her way we have a school to run here.
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You know what I think, I think she honestly wanted to make a go at being famous without the kids. I think they are a means to an end, and more often than not a nuisance to her. But she held on desperately to custody of them just in case she ever needed to play the kid card again. Well the time has come. She's realized there are no takers for just her, so now she's throwing the hail Mary pass and throwing the kids back out there. This is however, not her preference and her method of last resort, so we know she must be feeling really desperate at this point or why not pull this ages ago? It will be interesting to see if she can just let the girls talk without trying to insert herself in it. Bet she can't do it. As much as she uses the kids so much I firmly believe this was never, ever about the kids. It was about HER and the what the fame and money brought HER.
I just checked the calendar for Cara and Mady's school. The two Go$$elin girls DO HAVE SCHOOL on Thursday, 1-16; on Friday, 1-17 AND on Monday, 1- 20.
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Check again, Monday is MLK Day. No school. I think you have to go to the community calendar link, pull up Monday, January 20, and there should be a little thing on the calendar block that says Martin Luther King. Click on it. It should say No School.
This stinks of the exact same technique that Kris used...
With one big difference...TFW and company live in rural PA and not LA. Not exactly the fashion and/or entertainment capital of the world. Sure they're close to NY but close only counts in hand grenades and horseshoes. I don't think any network in their right mind is going to finance nothing but trips for them. Who knows, maybe they tried out for Momagers and will be appearing on the upcoming season of that gem of a reality show.
She announced it on Twitter tonight. It's not after the fact. I'm sure by now he read about it. If she didn't want him finding out about it, she would have kept quiet.
__________________________________________ Good point, PA Dutch Mom. Let's keep our fingers crossed that Jon can get someone, ANY one, to listen to him!
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 1h @Kateplusmy8 Okay you three...get some sleep. It will be an early morning 4U...that's 4sure! #SleepingBeauties pic.twitter.com/y1tIfmTaRQ :)
Milo makes my skin crawl. Sleeping beauties? This has to be a man. It just has to be. Doesn't it?
Jon should have pre-empted TFW and made the rounds of talk shows with the kids first. It's gonna happen whether he likes it or not, so why not do it in a way that he can control?
The kids had exposure on CWS and Katie Couric and no one started banging down Kate's door to give them a new show. In her mind, does she think the twins saying they want to film again on a talk show means someone will jump at the chance to give them a series? As if the only reason it's been almost three years since they had a series is because she's been saying the kids miss it and now that the twins are publicly saying the same, here comes the series she's been dreaming about? Am I following Kate's thought process correctly?
Interesting that a while back Milo was praising people for helping 'mom kate fly under the radar' for her safety, and yet TFW doesn't have *any* of those concerns for her children.
Once the twins spout off their coached answers about the divorce, what would they have to say that would be of interest? They don't do anything besides chores. Boring.
I don't think the original agenda for Jon to appear on WW was to be a rebuttal of that crap People article but since Liz didn't show Wendy changed the Focus of the interview. Whereas, what rationale is there for TFMJG to be dragging teens out of school to be interviewed? Oh, we want free trips and rotating crew families that we really, really deserve because our mommy is so awesome, fabulous and beautiful. And we are just as great too. I can't see what they would offer in an interview, never mind another series. Would they do a series about them doing homework, taking care of the annoying siblings, working their way through the 52 point chore list. No, they want to go on fancy trips with their BFF, TFW. Seriously, what I saw posted about the people article I fear they will make themselves look even more bratty. So sorry their mother has taught to be little princesses. Glad I don't watch either show, both of them must have to be scraping the bottom of the barrel to think the Gosselin twins are what America wants for entrainment. I'd rather watch crazy pet tricks than two dull teens begging for a TV show.
I was checking out Kate's TL and it seems like some of the sheeple are coming out with guns blazing and deliberately poking at the non-fans with over-the-top comments, just to raise their blood pressure...and the "haters" seem to be taking the bait.
I've been having the same thought that she is really no different than a pan-handler. There are a lot of things she could be doing but it's easier to get hand outs. I
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No different except for one thing at least the panhandler owns that they are asking for a handout and doesn't try to pretend that's not what is really happening. I would have more respect for Kate if she held a cup out and shook it. I might even give her something just because I'd be so happy she finally owned it. ************************************* Shame on you Admin, calling Kate a panhandler! Don't you know that begging for a 14 passenger van, having to repeatedly beg to have your Gymboree gift card loaded, begging for Loft, begging for your Clinique, begging to have someone ANYONE foot Steve's bill, begging for toilet paper, begging for breast implants, @Chipolte, guacamole, chicken, @CoffeeMate, @Keurig, and Little Angel DVDs, begging people to buy cheap makeup and jewelry, begging people to buy Bella bars and your horrendously horrendous cookbook, begging people to GO ON MY CRUISE, please go on my CRUISE tickets are only $1,000 more than the usual cabin price PLEASE, begging @ApplianceQuickyFixGuys for {cough, cough} "broken appliance advice," begging someone to just hand her a new show and begging St Tony to just "teach her the right way................... is HARD WORK! That's not begging it's hard, hard work. And if you beg, errr, WORK hard too, YOU can have a servant like Steve ;)
But she held on desperately to custody of them just in case she ever needed to play the kid card again. Well the time has come. She's realized there are no takers for just her, so now she's throwing the hail Mary pass and throwing the kids back out there.
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Didn't she try that with the cruise, and that didn't work either. Of course, you had the Trust Fund chick in there with her mass e-mailing fiasco, with a detective doing the vetting, and the whole thing failed miserably.
I made my post about asking people not to fire dirty shots at the girls and went off to deal with some other stuff and it looks like it created a bit of a war zone.
My reason for coming to this blog is to try and figure out a way to protect not only the gosselin kids but any kids who will end up in the world of reality tv or otherwise on the old boob tube. Is it my biggest and only passion? ..No! I have bigger fish to fry and greater passions closer to home to use my social activism on, but they all relate to kids and protecting them.
In my post #55 I copied the New York Child entertainment law. Permits are required, but as others have said, being interviewed on a news show likely does not fall under the scope of this law. Unless they are being paid, then it would/should but likely a grey area.
Here is a link to a site that will show you the map of the United States. You can click on any state and it will tell you whether there is a law for that state, if a working permit is required, and a quick snippet to what that law might be:
If M&C required the Principal or Superintendent of their school to sign the working permit giving permission for the girls to miss school, do you really think that person would NOT sign it?
If it was the Mayor of New York who needs to sign that working permit, do you really think that person is NOT going to sign it?
I dont think these people are going to go against the grain for a tv interview.
AS for the state that filmed Kid nation, where 40 kids under 16 were left in the desert for 40 days without adult supervision, That occurred in New Mexico, and they now seem to have some of THE strictest laws!!!
For those of you who had my back while I was gone THANK YOU!
admin said... "That's typically for a restraining order, if someone is going to seriously injure you or even kill you. That's typically not for nasty family law disputes unless you're trying to leave the country with the kids or something. This is no way shape or form would ever qualify for that."
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You are correct about that. No magisterial district or emergency relief master is going to open any doors on a Wednesday night to issue a PFA because Kate Gosselin's twins are going to be on the Today show tomorrow.
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You are a mind reader! I was just about to ask you if it would be possible to delete some of those!
I'm behind but Jon?? Where are you and what are you doing to stop this?
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You can't snap your fingers and get a court date. If he just found out about this, he would not be able to get a court date tomorrow. Monday is a court holiday. We're looking at Tuesday or Wednesday before most "emergency" hearings would even have a chance at being heard. It would be done and over with by then. ****
Thank you Admin, for pointing out the reality of family law, child custody issues, and the like. While it's understandable to feel frustration that one parent is seemingly doing "nothing," the truth is often quite different.
What exactly do some people think Jon should be doing to prevent these two appearances, short of basically kidnapping his teen daughters? If they are with their mother, how does he physically prevent or control anything they and their mother decide to do, as long as it's not breaking any laws?
So what's Jon's excuse? He simply can NOT allow the girls to humiliate themselves on television. Please, Jon, do SOME thing! ********************* Oh my goodness. First of all, how do you know the girls will "humiliate themselves" on either appearance?
Second, a court designed to hear emergency petitions would not look favorably on Jon running in with his hair on fire, exclaiming to the Court, PLEASE DON'T LET MY DAUGHTERS BE ON THE VIEW! Emergency hearings would often be because a woman is in very real fear for her life from an abusive partner; or perhaps a child welfare agency believes a child is in serious danger in their home. Jon would actually look like a fool wasting the court's time when it is supposed to be dealing with life-threatening matters.
The twins appearing with Kate on The View or Today Show is ridiculous. She's clearly using them. But it's not life-threatening. If they end up being embarrassed by what they say, they will not die from it.
Admin said: It will be interesting to see if she can just let the girls talk without trying to insert herself in it. Bet she can't do it. As much as she uses the kids so much I firmly believe this was never, ever about the kids. It was about HER and the what the fame and money brought HER. **************** Yep. And I agree - she will be unable to let either girl talk too long - because they spotlight must always be on TFW. She will insert her comments, make "funny" faces, and otherwise try to get the focus back on her. You would think that experienced interviewers on the Today Show or The View would be able to better control her by now - but let's see if she makes fools of them yet again.
This is just one more reason why Today has been losing viewers to Good Morning America. Plus that George Stephanopoulos and Robin Roberts are just so friendly and perky and nice and fun! Matt Lauer is unfun.
You can't snap your fingers and get a court date. If he just found out about this, he would not be able to get a court date tomorrow. Monday is a court holiday. We're looking at Tuesday or Wednesday before most "emergency" hearings would even have a chance at being heard. It would be done and over with by then.
And the anonymous poster who keeps posting about legal custody clearly doesn't understand what legal custody means. Just because one or the other parent may have legal custody doesn't mean the other parent can't share their concerns with the court. Legal custody doesn't mean you have the right to take your kid out of school four days a week or consent to a lypo procedure or boob job for their young child or do other crazy things. The other parent has every right to complain to family law court if the parent is making decisions that are detrimental, legal or not. It means the legal parent can MAKE the decision without consulting the other parent, it does not mean the other parent can't protest their decision in court if it's something crazy. Best interest ALWAYS trumps everything and a judge will always hear complaints if they are valid.
And if Kate really had such control about this in terms of legal matters, then why not just tell Jon what is going on? Why does she hide it? Wouldn't she love to just rub it in as long as possible? She hides it because she knows he has every right to run to court if her "legal" decisions are detrimental. She knows it. ********************************************************************************
I'm going to agree. I know from personal experience that the knee jerk reaction when a custodial parent is doing something that is not in the best interest in the child is to get an emergency hearing. It may take up to several days to get the emergency hearing on the docket . . you have to serve the other party, etc.
Anyway, TFW is so blind and hell-bent on getting her mug and the kids' mugs back on TV in order to refute the things Jon has been saying in his interviews and stick it to him AND beg for a new show that she hasn't stopped to think that she is validating everything that he and others have been saying about her. I really doubt that she and the kids have signed on for the Momanager show. She by herself is poison and most producers know it and once they factor in Jon, the father of the children, who is ready to go to court to keep his kids off TV, it's not worth the headache. So let her drag the twins onto the Today Show tomorrow. It will be a flop. Jon might be able to get a court order stopping the appearance on the View.
But even if he doesn't, she's just handing him more ammunition to take before the family court. I'd love to hear TFW explain to the judge why it is so imperative that the twins/kids go on these talk shows, sometimes missing school in the process, when they are not bound by any type of contract to make appearances on TV and haven't been for the last several years.
Dutch Mom - I'll wager there are people on this very blog who've had dealings with her and have a plethora of stories to tell, but are obliged for whatever reason to remain silent.
We here only go by what we read and see in the tabloids and talk shows and whatever makes it to the surface. What lies beneath? Sometimes I don't think I want to know. Those kids must be living in some kind of hell.
Meagler, Greedy Gosselins said it best: 'Fair game' or not, these are children we're discussing. And WE are the adults. Just because their parents can't seem to shut up and their mother is throwing them to the wolves, doesn't mean we have to BE the wolves and take the bait.
Let us all try to remember this! I know that Kate makes me so angry that I want to lash out at someone but do know that 13 yr. old girls are off limits.
I had the same thought I bet those teachers were FED UP with having to cater to that millionaire star's every whim and scheduling conflict. I bet they were actually interested in the children who wanted to focus on the only job a child should ever have, their education. Why should they drop everything to help her if school isn't her priority?
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Oh, wonderful. Now the school is included in the tweet by a non-fan.
Was at my day job at 730 and my second by 5?got home at 1030 helped dd with chemistry . Now at midnight I check olinbtobdindbmissbdo nothing has gotten her mediocre twins booked on shows! Gmab. There used to be a twitter truther called Pimp My Kids. How apropos
My fear is that the twins will again bash their father and dear little sister, Alexis. An interview on the Today show will reach a much bigger audience than a magazine interview. It's ironic that Kate and the twins are being given these opportunities as they wouldn't be there were it not for the tups.
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Weren't Kathie Lee and Hoda bashing Kate over that cover? Aren't they part of the Today show? Kathie Lee also spoke out years ago about Kate's rudeness at a taping. Boggles the mind.
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I'm sick to my stomach. Whoever said the People arrticle and cover were just a precursor to even bigger exploitation of the twins was right.
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(Raising my hand) That was me!
Something is up. There are plans in the works for these girls. Whatever those plans may be, Jon seems really pissed.
Lindsay Lohan made Parent Trap in 1998. She didn't make another movie until 2003 with Freaky Friday. The 5 year break was supposed to allow her to have normal teenage high school years. And THAT didn't even work. My heart breaks for the twins and whatever Kate has up her sleeve for them. Kids should never be the breadwinners. Kids shouldn't be made to feel like it's up to them to maintain their parents ridiculous standard of living. Kids should never have the weight of the world on their shoulders. Kids should never feel like they have to do their parent's bidding to feel loved and accepted.
In a weird way it's kind on hysterical Kate keeps talking about the kids wanting to film and then Jon has to say actually I asked them and that's nonsense. Is there an offer on the table to film them?
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Remember the episode where she took the twins to that talent agency and the woman more or less told Kate to shut her yap, she was doing the talking and then after interviewing them she said the girls didn't have much to offer in the way of talent which really pissed Kate off.
So what's changed? Have they been taking acting lessons?
This People Magazine/Today Show/The View tour seems oddly familiar to the PR route she used to take when she was employed by TLC.
Say it isn't so!
Robert broke his long twitter silence to tweet:
Gosselin Book @GosselinBook 6m
Is @Kateplusmy8 the worst mother in all of entertainment? We'll know tomorrow if she exploits her twin 13-yr-old daughters on @TODAYshow.
Nancy said... 1
Correct me if I'm wrong but is not one of the ONLY times TFW has announced an appearance BEFORE it happens???
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I believe you're right. Maybe it's her way of sticking it to Jon.
I guess you don't have to have talent to be on TV anymore, but you DO have to have something to peddle, and it's usually bad behavior.
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Nancy said... 1
Correct me if I'm wrong but is not one of the ONLY times TFW has announced an appearance BEFORE it happens???
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I believe you're right. Maybe it's her way of sticking it to Jon.
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I also think that she may think that although people don't care about her they will tune in to see the twins... sick and twisted either way!!!
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Nancy said... 1
Correct me if I'm wrong but is not one of the ONLY times TFW has announced an appearance BEFORE it happens???
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I believe you're right. Maybe it's her way of sticking it to Jon.
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Not maybe. It IS. Nothing will stand in her way now. If we thought it was bad before, it's going to get really ugly now.
While the stah and her daughters are on tour, just who is minding the other six?
Kate needs to remember that on her never ending quest for fame during the uber-busy DWTS schedule she neglected the kids to the point where two of them got temporarily dismissed from kindergarten.
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Was Jon even interviewed for the"In Touch" magazine? If the twins or Kate make reference to the things he said in that magazine then Kate should be reminded that she herself said that all tabloids are trash and say incorrect things. I bet she let the twins and/or the tups read that article like it was the gospel truth. But no doubt she hides all the other tabloids from her kids that have bad articles about her.
And I do hope the twins friends say bad things to the twins about these interviews? Why, because maybe their peers can open their eyes to the truth. It seems like Kate has them brainwashed that they are flawless and loved by millions and also brainwashed towards any truth their father may tell them.
They don't seem to understand that you don't get a TV show by groveling on the today show or the View. You get the show first through an audition or other negotiations behind the scenes and ThEN you do the talk show circuit to promote. They're doing this all backwards, and it's embarrassing. They have nothing to peddle but their family drama and begging for things they don't deserve or qualify for. I've never seen celebs get so much screen time for so little. At least Jon is doing the circuit to promote CT. At least his appearances actually make sense in the world of celebrity promotion. What a world!
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Kate is reaping what she has sown. When your attention is more on a personal vendetta and not on your kids well being then there is so much trouble ahead for all eight of those kids. She is sick and needs to be stopped. If it means going on national TV to garner attention to what's going on in that house of horrors that Kate has built, then so be it. Her house needs to crumble. The kids will be OK because they have Jon. It's not like they have no where to go.
Sorry, but the sooner the truth hits the sunlight, the sooner the kids can get help. Kate is very lost in her insanity so there's really no hope for her.
Kate Gosselin is 10x worse then Kris Jenner God I'm really stating to dislike Kate less and less.
And as I said once be for she will never ever stop using her children unless someone stops her rather it be Jon or a Judge hell even then I bet she won't stop.
Show of hands please. Who is surprised by this?
Anyone?
Bueller?
Amazing. Who at the Today Show thinks these 2 teens from PA, privileged girls from private school, no discernible talents, no amazing feats of rescue or charity, no hook but a fame whore mother looking to pimp them out, who thinks these girls have anything worthy of interest to entertain an adult morning talk show audience? I seriously do not understand this.
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They don't seem to understand that you don't get a TV show by groveling on the today show or the View
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How can they understand when mom begs for a show every chance she gets?
I bet Kate told the girls "well I've asked and it didn't work so maybe if you ask nicely and say how much you miss it a producer will give us a show"
They don't seem to understand that you don't get a TV show by groveling on the today show or the View. 13
Bu bu bu bu but Don't You Know Who SHE Is?
It's getting to the point where I'm afraid to press the "refresh" button on this blog -- who knows what horrors await?
Oh, you better believe that heads-up about tomorrow was a big ol' middle finger from TFW to her ex. But you've gotta love this: the Today show appearance will surely create more negative buzz than anything her ex may say or do on CT tomorrow might. Unless he tosses a puppy into a volcano, he'll look like Pa Ingalls in comparison.
Dmsay -- blessings to you. So sorry to hear about what's been a long and difficult time for you. I always enjoy your comments, and hope the challenging period comes to a close soon. Hang in there.
Pity the poor kids that may appear on The View on Monday and have to endure a weekend full of daddy-bashing coaching from Kate as a rehearsal.
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What weekend? They're cramming tonight in prep for tomorrow.
I just don't believe her fans can't see that Kate is using her children. I refused to believe that her fans can be that blind.
Or maybe they just don't give a f**k about the kids right to privacy and a normal life they would make more sense.
The definition of PIMP
[with object] informal sell or promote (something) in an extravagant or persistent way:
Yup, that's Katie Kreider. Oh, she should be so proud!
I seriously do not understand this. 17
Join the club.
It's getting to the point where I'm afraid to press the "refresh" button on this blog -- who knows what horrors await? 20
Right there with you.
Beyond Disgusted, The View announced Kate and the kids will be on their show on Monday.
Actually Auntie Ann I'll raise my hand.
I thought the People cover was going to be one and done, at least for a longer while.
Thinking back on it now, all the promotion of the twins being a part of the crookbook editing and photography coupled with the tweets about Mady's movie making and theatrics has me second guessing myself.
You see! He can't disappear and live a private life, she's not letting him! Next Kardashians? Not in this lifetime. What a Delusional, ubserd, wine induced fantasy is she living in?
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Beyond Disgusted, The View announced Kate and the kids will be on their show on Monday.
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Yeah and why would momma drive/fly home when not-a-nanny is their to tend to the kids left behind?
I mean momma got to get the star treatment which means hair/nails/nobu and time with rat claws.
Not sure if my last post went thru, blogger said someting abou double editing??
Anyways..
Yes I see Kate did do a pre-announcement of the girls being on the Today show.
Kate always said she couldnt make pre-announcements of her appearances because it was too dangerous.
I guess Kate's not as concerned about the danger she's putting her girls in. ( ya, I know, we have all sadly come to realize that.... )
Okay, I am thinking to the Child Labour law/amendments that came into play in Pennsylvania in Jan 2013. The school would have had to agree to this in order for the girls to get a work permit, right? I also thought there were some strict rules about filming and when it could occur. Perhaps that didnt include 1 time shots?
This is exploitation, and I thought the law had been formed to stop this crap from happening!
Someone enlighten me....
Amazing. Who at the Today Show thinks these 2 teens from PA, privileged girls from private school, no discernible talents, no amazing feats of rescue or charity, no hook but a fame whore mother looking to pimp them out, who thinks these girls have anything worthy of interest to entertain an adult morning talk show audience? I seriously do not understand this.
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Or who at the Today Show , knowing of the battle that's playing out in the media between the exes right now, thinks it's responsible to allow two young teens to have a public voice in this sordid post divorce nonsense.
And I do hope the twins friends say bad things to the twins about these interviews? Why, because maybe their peers can open their eyes to the truth. It seems like Kate has them brainwashed that they are flawless and loved by millions and also brainwashed towards any truth their father may tell them.
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Sorry, I don't agree. The last thing they need is being torn apart by their peers for doing interviews. They're already being manipulated by their mother who is poisoning their minds against their father. Why would they believe anything their peers would tell them -- their mother most likely prepares them for anything they would say to the twins, throwing in the jealousy thing. Those kids would be so confused.
Or maybe they just don't give a f**k about the kids right to privacy and a normal life they would make more sense. 22
I think that we need to recognize that they are fans of Katie the PIMP. The children are her props. She would be NOBODY without them.
You know I'm thinking god knows how much she has tried to push auditions and things on them behind the scenes. When none of that ever panned out which would be expected, she resorts to begging on national tv. Not only is she teaching these kids to be spoiled and cruel but they are also learning to check your dignity at the door.
Pity the poor kids that may appear on The View on Monday and have to endure a weekend full of daddy-bashing coaching from Kate as a rehearsal.
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What weekend? They're cramming tonight in prep for tomorrow.
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I began typing this before I saw the update about the Today Show.
I'm with Flimsy on having trepidation about hitting refresh.
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Robert broke his long twitter silence to tweet:
Gosselin Book @GosselinBook 6m
Is @Kateplusmy8 the worst mother in all of entertainment? We'll know tomorrow if she exploits her twin 13-yr-old daughters on @TODAYshow.
Oh, .Robert...if anyone thought that maybe Kate couldn't be nearly as bad as the way she was presented in your book, this latest exploit of hers has removed all doubt.
Sorry, I don't agree. The last thing they need is being torn apart by their peers for doing interviews
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I agree but lets be real kids can be very mean and say horrible things without even thinking about who they're hurting.
But Kate doesn't seem to care does she.
Bet she took them shopping in NYC to bribe.
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You're 100% correct.
Locals - Is there no school tomorrow in PA? How about Friday? Monday?
I think some publicist hack she's probably hired with the kids' money told her if she's serious about making a go with the twins she needs to get serious about twitter stop being so lazy and take 10 seconds out of her oh so busy day of doing absolutely nothing other than keep her kids alive to actually announce their appearances ahead of time. She promoted People too, this is a new leaf for her.
She announced this because: middle finger to Jon; wants people to tune in; and wants pap coverage. I bet she has even hired a pap to be there in the morning.
Kate tweeted this announcement because she wants everybody to tune in to how she has coached the girls, from dispelling Jon's WW interview to begging to be back on TV.
OT: time for my shameless begging! Vote for Shaka Smart in the espn Coaches Challenge and help a worthy charity providing direct services to children!
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#shameless begging
#Go VCU!
I've been in morning all day because my beloved vcu rams lost to the George Washington Patriots last night. Le Sigh.
Okay, I am thinking to the Child Labour law/amendments that came into play in Pennsylvania in Jan 2013
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They're not filming in PA. The PA child labor laws govern filming in this state. Whether a one-time guest appearance on a television show out of state is considered "working," I have no idea.
Beyond Disgusted, The View announced Kate and the kids will be on their show on Monday.
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Yes, I know. My bad. I wasn't clear in my post. I was responding to another poster who commented that Kate would be spending the weekend rehearsing the kids for Monday's show. I meant that there's no need to wait for the weekend, they're probably cramming tonight. Sorry.
As painful as this teeny media tour is to fathom, what really is her end game, besides sticking it to Jon? A show for the girls? Won't he have to sign off on anything besides these appearances? My head hurts.
Dmasy - Blogger is swiffering some of my posts. I've been waiting for it to show up but I'll post it again...
... I'm sorry about your beloved pup and your BIL as well as your house problems. 2013 tried it's best to knock you down, but look at you. You're still standing. Hang in there girlie, the sun will shine again. Best wishes and good thoughts are sent your way.
I hope they get bumped by some breaking news story!
I'm sorry, but I agree with whomever it was who said earlier, "they are fair game now".
Let's not blame Kate. They could say "no", but they won't.
Game on.
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@Kateplusmy8 @TODAYshow Mady & Cara Gosselin ROCK'N the TODAY SHOW ! What could be more awesome ?
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Good gawd, they are nuts, or else just poking at the haters. Yes, sir, nothing more awesome than using your children to get back at their father. We should all be that awesome.
Sheeple not only can't see the whole picture, but they're idiots as well.
Has Kate "up her butt" Coyne left People? If so, why, and has TFW had her surgically removed?
He has every right to correct his children as he sees fit, but a national talk show is not the vehicle through which that should occur.
Exactly. This is getting out of control now. Jon got whatever message he wanted to put out there, more than once, and continuing this is just 2009 tit for tat silliness. Does he really want all this to play out for his kids to watch in reruns? The guy is so confusing. Says one thing but does another.
Again, Kate's a lost cause, so it's up to Jon to end this immature battle of the twits before someone REALLY gets hurt. Obviously Jon needs more therapy.
New York Child Entertainment Laws updated Jan 1, 2014.
yes they need a work permit. models under 18 need permit from educational authorities/ Performer 16-17 needs employment certificate/ performers under 16 need permit from mayor or chief executive
o obtain certificates and permits need: written parental consent (exceptions for emancipated children), proof of age, and a certificate of physical fitness; separate procedures are in effect for New York City and for the remainder of the State. Sec. 7-7.1 Estates, Powers and Trusts Law - Courts may require a portion of earnings be set aside for the minor in a trust.
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http://www.dol.gov/whd/state/childentertain.htm#NewYork
Let's not blame Kate. They could say "no", but they won't.
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Even if the girls did say no I don't think that would stop their mother and let's face it the twins know how to please their mother..
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When none of that ever panned out which would be expected, she resorts to begging on national tv. Not only is she teaching these kids to be spoiled and cruel but they are also learning to check your
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I've been having the same thought that she is really no different than a pan-handler. There are a lot of things she could be doing but it's easier to get hand outs. I really don't know which is worse - her entitlement issues or her laziness. But to show her kids how to do it too? Oy. There are no words.
I guess this means that the not-a-contest winners won't be announced any time soon, or the Nicole author person's book isn't going to get a testimonial this month.
Hi Dmasy, good to hear from you. So sorry about all the stressful events. Glad this blog can be a distraction.
Testing new avatar. Time to put away all the Christmas decorations, and fully engage with NCAA basketball.
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You know I'm thinking god knows how much she has tried to push auditions and things on them behind the scenes. When none of that ever panned out which would be expected, she resorts to begging on national tv. Not only is she teaching these kids to be spoiled and cruel but they are also learning to check your dignity at the door.
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What's worse, anything they may attempt surely will fail, crushing their young self esteem. Nothing against the girls, it's just that the Gosselin name is not really beloved. Like their parents, the girls have nothing to bring to the table. People know and accept that they were fooled by J&K+8. They were fooled by the fakeness of the whole sham and disgusted by the tabloid divorce. Famous for being famous is really getting old for most of America.
The only job Mady and Cara need to have is being teenagers in rural PA. Period.
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What time Thurs? Credits on tv schedule do not show them?? >>>. “@Kateplusmy8: Cara & Mady are SO honored to be on @TODAYshow tomorrow
Oh, my word. Look at your television schedule and see what time the Today show airs!
I need a drink. Again.
I read through all of the laws for the states and only a few say they can be employed only outside of school hours under age 14.
Rep Murt was right...animals do seem to have more protection then our children. How sad is this.
I just checked the calendar for Cara and Mady's school. The two Go$$elin girls DO HAVE SCHOOL on Thursday, 1-16; on Friday, 1-17 AND on Monday, 1- 20. Witch-face Khate is taking them out of school to go a'fame-whoring. F-ing great.
Mady and Cara will become fair game now, but please lets not make them fair game on this blog.
They are only 13. They may have been to many places in the world but they are not world-ly. They are not even very street wise I imagine.
I believe they are doing what they need to do to survive in the world in which they live. Not one of us here truly knows what it is like to live at the kompound.
This is the result of decisions their parents have made on their behalf. I highly doubt M or C called up the Today show or people magazine.
Lets not rip these girls apart on this blog, please! I thought we were all here because we were concerned about their well being!
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Well, I guess Kate isn't at the Paying For College presentation at school tonight! She'll have those kids in the entertainment industry, earning their own way through college, come hell or high water
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Can any of the locals enlighten us as to the kids' school take on missing school like this? I'm going to assume there's a little more wiggle room in a private school. I know my granddaughter's public school in TN is very strict, will make referrals to the truancy department if the child has one or two absences for non-medical reasons.
It always amazed me how Kate had the stamina to keep putting herself out there to recapture fame and easy money knowing the criticism that ensues every time she appears publicly. That she would invite that into the kids' lives on that same quest classifies her as a whole new category of unbalanced.
Countdown to new Mady and Cara twitter accounts!
I'm behind but Jon?? Where are you and what are you doing to stop this?
After all the hate and critics' vitriol Kate has received, both on blogs and twitter, and she thinks putting her young daughters on talk shows IS A GOOD DECISION?
If we here are upset about it, can you imagine how upset Jodi and Kevin must be about this new development? Wow.
Are there no labor laws in PA to stop this from happening?
Sorry, I don't agree. The last thing they need is being torn apart by their peers for doing interviews
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I agree. Kate would say, "Who are you going to listen to...your classmates who know nothing, or your mom who knows best? Ignore them. They're just jealous."
Awhile back, the non-fans treated Milo as sort of a buffoon, annoying and crazy, but she was tolerated and poked fun at. I think that now not only the haters, but some of the sheeple as well, are fed up with her delusional obsession.
I think with the crookbook flop and the lawsuit debacle Kate knows she alone is done.
It's the full court press with the kids now.
Katie bar the door!
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Can any of the locals enlighten us as to the kids' school take on missing school like this? I'm going to assume there's a little more wiggle room in a private school. I know my granddaughter's public school in TN is very strict, will make referrals to the truancy department if the child has one or two absences for non-medical reasons.
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What do you want to bet the school is fed up with her? The woman is a nightmare. I can't imagine the number of times they've had to deal with her regarding the kids absentees and other issues that we'll never know about. She is so freaking out of control at this point they're probably ready to throw their hands up and say to hell with it, let her have her way we have a school to run here.
We don't know what was decided in court regarding Kate putting the kids on television, but does she need Jon's permission for them to be paraded around in television media, even though they aren't technically working?
The twins are 13yrs not 18yrs old I say leave them alone especially after finding out about Kate's abusive and manipulative behaviour we don't know how scared she has her kids.
Something I find interesting is that the girls are being 'presented' on a morning talk show instead of actually going to cattle calls and open and private auditions. If they had any kind of agent/manager they wouldn't be put on display saying "here I am, offer me a show", instead, they would be showing what they can do like every other professional does. Heck, even Jennifer Garner, Drew Barrymore, and others have to audition for what they want, and they have the chops and resume propping them up.
What do those girls have. Sure, they aren't ugly - that's good, but the only claim to fame they have is being the older sisters to a set of sextuplets.
She's marketing the twins the same way Kris Jenner marketed the Kardashian girls. They had no talent and even today are only famous for being famous.
*The Gosselin twins: what talent do they have, what training, what paying their dues on smaller jobs before doing a People cover or Today appearance have the twins done?
*The Jenner girls started the same way. They were trotted out on tv and in magazines and became famous (infamous?) for basically just being a part of the family. Sound familiar, so far?
*The Jenner girls got their first runway jobs without going through any of the usual casting calls or training other beginning models do. They got their first jobs because of their name. Same with the twins.
This stinks of the exact same technique that Kris used with her family and I don't think it bodes well for any of the G8, especially the twins with the strange/unhealthy bond she has with them - the 3 of them against the world, BFFs. There's no way now that the twins will ever say they don't want to be on tv after the special treatment and attention they've been given the past couple of months. No way. The ship has sailed and TFW is at the helm. What remains to be seen is who is managing them and I'll bet it's not TFW - she's too stupid and lazy to do it herself. She's hired someone to help her pimp them out to the highest bidder.
So two days dedicated to talk shows in NYC - two school days at that. And for what? To chat about being teenagers? Anyone here think they're going home between gigs? I have no answers, but remain thoroughly disgusted.
Meagler, do not act as if Cara and Mady are helpless to stop this.That is crap.
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I totally disagree. I don't think it's crap. I would think that if Kate says, "You do this," then they do it or face her wrath. God only knows what life would be like in that household if they refused. Penalty of severeness, I would bet.
Are there no labor laws in PA to stop this from happening?
Not that I know of. The new laws have to do with filming in PA only. If they go to New York, Virginia, or wherever, they are under their labor laws there. What kind of law in PA would prevent a minor from making a television appearance in another state? It's out of PA's jurisdiction, and I'm not even sure if another state's labor laws would apply since they aren't really filming. It's a guest appearance.Those laws would have to be reviewed before a determination could be made.
chefsummer, I disagree with you on this. These two are NOT scared of Kate. They are her BFF's. Probably her only true BFF's. And at least one of the two wants fame more than anything else. The other? I don't know what her game plan is--maybe she likes the nice things too?
I guess this is piecing and patching. What's next for these girls? The entire talk show circuit for $$$? I think people are curious as to what they will reveal about their parent, not really interested in two ordinary barely-teens and their opinions on 'everything teenager.' From what we saw on KC, Cara is sullen and Mady a diva who sulks when she doesn't get her way. That's entertainment?
That she would invite that into the kids' lives on that same quest classifies her as a whole new category of unbalance
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Yes, indeed. It's one thing to put herself out there, knowing how much she is hated but not caring as long as her face is on television. It's another to know this, and yet drag her daughters into the sordid mess for the same scrutiny. Mind boggling, isn't it?
Well, welcome to Kate new years resolution: using the twins to get a reality show. Her new direction! Like I said many times, Kate will fly under the radar, and put the kids on TV, and not tell Jon till after the fact. When it's too late to go to family court to stop. Jon has his hands full. Kate thinks she is entitled to do whatever she wants, she is above the law. Kate does not care if those kids miss school. SHAME ON HER! So those kids are missing 3 + days of school, just so she can get her mug on TV. This is a-hole revenge. Kates new direction use kids to get revenge against Jon. I hope it blows up in her face. Jon was right: Kate is an asshole! 100%, she is using kids for her own gain. It's almost beyond words!
Nobody wants to see entitled, rich kids, especially teens on TV. There is a rich kids of LA coming on soon, on TV, more crap.
It is a shame that TFW does not realize that by putting the twins on the morning shows she is proving Jon's point.
To PatK (#74): Thank you.
Are there no labor laws in PA to stop this from happening?
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PA laws don't matter. This is filming in NY. They have very good labor laws, but they don't protect from this kind of dysfunction and parental alienation and using your kids as pawns. No law that I've ever seen can really be written precisely enough to guard against that. Nor do they guard against children who have spent their entire lives working or being used as long as they followed the law on each individual day. There is no law that says once you've put in a total of X amount of hours of all hours of your life being exploited on T.V. or twitter or elsewhere you can't be exploited anymore. There should be. There should be a lifetime max.
two days dedicated to talk shows in NYC - two school days at that. And for what? To chat about being teenagers? Anyone here think they're going home between gigs?
I suppose it's possible that The View appearance on Monday is being taped tomorrow and they will only be interrupting one school week rather than two. Nahhh, that's too much to hope for.
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Or who at the Today Show , knowing of the battle that's playing out in the media between the exes right now, thinks it's responsible to allow two young teens to have a public voice in this sordid post divorce nonsense.
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I think that is EXACTLY why they will be on the TODAY show tomorrow morning, to capitalize on what is going on in the tabloids. What could the Gosselin twins possibly have to offer the viewers tomorrow morning other than their physical changes, you are right, this is utter nonsense!
Yeeegads!
Kate will stop at nothing..vitriol unleashed, running rampant.
The girls ARE fair game.
VANESSA, I am in total agreement. I didn't know that Jon was muzzled, by TLC. I thought he was too nice a guy, and was doing his best for the kids, post his eviction, but now? Why should he not curtail her loathsome tactics? Why should he not be heard? For too long, she has controlled everything. Take her down.
As for the show tomorrow...and the View next week...if she is coddled, there is zero intelligence in the world of media. Also, who is left on the View with even a shred of acumen, but Whoopi?
If people (and some do) purport to believe TFW's saga of lies, they have never watched her shows. You'd have to be blind and deaf to believe a single thing she has to say.
I am thinking to the Child Labour law/amendments that came into play in Pennsylvania in Jan 2013. The school would have had to agree to this in order for the girls to get a work permit, right? I also thought there were some strict rules about filming and when it could occur. Perhaps that didnt include 1 time shots?
I wonder if a news/interview type show qualifies the same as having a role on a program. I'm leaning towards there being a difference and permits not needed for something like Today. AND, if they'd want to get around the permit they might say TFW was the only actual guest and if Today pays for this appearance then only issue payment to her and not the girls. Two birds killed with one stone - not needing a permit and not having to pay the twins. That would certainly appeal to TFW.
Just a little request, we've been generous with the comments and letting them go through. People are passionate and want to discuss all this and I've not wanted to hinder that too much. However in light of the girls being more public for now, please be more restrained than you would be with an adult. I'm not going to ask people to not comment on them if they are going to be public figures or to hold something back that is valid, but I am going to ask that if there is another way to make your point that is gentler, please do that. I think we need to keep in mind that they are old enough to seek out public opinion about their new public personas, and if they ever do read things about them here or elsewhere I don't think it will be helpful to them to just spout off in anger, even though I sense most of the anger is rightly directed at the adults in this mess. They may however take to heart something that is said in a respectful and calm manner, or at least give it a thought.
And as always if you have an issue with the comments please don't post a passive aggressive anonymous attack. That isn't productive for anyone especially when I never publish anonymous anymore. Compile your concerns and email them to us. We will read them.
Just a little request, we've been generous with the comments and letting them go through. People are passionate and want to discuss all this and I've not wanted to hinder that too much. However in light of the girls being more public for now, please be more restrained than you would be with an adult. I'm not going to ask people to not comment on them if they are going to be public figures or to hold something back that is valid, but I am going to ask that if there is another way to make your point that is gentler, please do that. I think we need to keep in mind that they are old enough to seek out public opinion about their new public personas, and if they ever do read things about them here or elsewhere I don't think it will be helpful to them to just spout off in anger, even though I sense most of the anger is rightly directed at the adults in this mess. They may however take to heart something that is said in a respectful and calm manner, or at least give it a thought.
And as always if you have an issue with the comments please don't post a passive aggressive anonymous attack. That isn't productive for anyone especially when I never publish anonymous anymore. Compile your concerns and email them to us. We will read them.
This is the result of decisions their parents have made on their behalf. I highly doubt M or C called up the Today show or people magazine.
Lets not rip these girls apart on this blog, please! I thought we were all here because we were concerned about their well being!
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Yes, Meagler. 'Fair game' or not, these are children we're discussing. And WE are the adults. Just because their parents can't seem to shut up and their mother is throwing them to the wolves, doesn't mean we have to BE the wolves and take the bait.
I wonder if a news/interview type show qualifies the same as having a role on a program.
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I had THE SAME THOUGHT. Does this even qualify under child labor laws? Local news shows interview kids all the time and I don't hear anything about permits, payment, a comfortable set, or anything that implies it's like acting with all the protections of acting. Usually it's so short I guess it wouldn't be an issue, but it begs the question what if a news program did an ongoing series following around certain kids for some reason (like the old Class of 2000 segments from the 90's). Would child labor laws kick in or not? Does 60 Minutes pay their kid subjects or make sure they don't work past certain hours? I really doubt it.
This looks like yet another loose end in child labor laws that no one has really cleaned up, just like reality T.V. was.
The problem too is this is supposed to be "news" as loose as that term is. You're not supposed to pay people to be on a show that is news and it is a fact that many of them don't. I even remember when I was helping with book guests some of them would be angry we wouldn't pay and couldn't believe it but our answer was the same every time, sorry we do not pay guests it is a conflict of interest. Yet I think many people believe minors should always be paid for doing any work like this, including me.
I really wonder how Cara is going to feel about all this when suddenly she has to miss her first lacrosse game to go do an appearance. She may change her tune.
Thanks for the answer PA Dutch Mom. That makes me sad.
All this talk about kids going to college isn't going to happen if Kate keeps pulling them out of the school. Don't have the grades, don't get admitted to college.
I'm behind but Jon?? Where are you and what are you doing to stop this?
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You can't snap your fingers and get a court date. If he just found out about this, he would not be able to get a court date tomorrow. Monday is a court holiday. We're looking at Tuesday or Wednesday before most "emergency" hearings would even have a chance at being heard. It would be done and over with by then.
And the anonymous poster who keeps posting about legal custody clearly doesn't understand what legal custody means. Just because one or the other parent may have legal custody doesn't mean the other parent can't share their concerns with the court. Legal custody doesn't mean you have the right to take your kid out of school four days a week or consent to a lypo procedure or boob job for their young child or do other crazy things. The other parent has every right to complain to family law court if the parent is making decisions that are detrimental, legal or not. It means the legal parent can MAKE the decision without consulting the other parent, it does not mean the other parent can't protest their decision in court if it's something crazy. Best interest ALWAYS trumps everything and a judge will always hear complaints if they are valid.
And if Kate really had such control about this in terms of legal matters, then why not just tell Jon what is going on? Why does she hide it? Wouldn't she love to just rub it in as long as possible? She hides it because she knows he has every right to run to court if her "legal" decisions are detrimental. She knows it.
How do we even know that they'll be "in studio" tomorrow? It may well be a Skype interview and may be something that was pre recorded. I read that Tracy & Lanny Barnes are supposed to be on with an "exclusive live interview" tomorrow. Now those twins actually bring something to the table. Hey, maybe TFW will announce the names of the not a contest winners.
Dmasy, let me add my prayers to all the others flying your way. Hopefully things will be looking up for you soon.
It's amazing how all this is putting Jon's frustration in context. We're all spouting off and frustrated too, how can I ask their FATHER to be anything else?
I feel kind of bad I was so hard on him over the infamous driveway peeing interview. I see now what he was so vexed about. He was a man furious that this woman was revving up for her big comeback tour, the twins front and center. He took a deep breath, calmed down, and gave a great interview to WW, getting his points across in a calm and rational manner. He pulled it together. Clutch.
I suppose it's possible that The View appearance on Monday is being taped tomorrow and they will only be interrupting one school week rather than two. Nahhh, that's too much to hope for.
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I deleted some of Rearranging's posts. Please do not quote posts you have a problem with, as then I have to delete yours too.
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Thanks for the answer PA Dutch Mom. That makes me sad.
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I wish I had the answer for you, but I don't. I only know that if she takes them to North Carolina and films the crap out of them, and NC has no child labor laws, PA can't do a thing about it. Frustrating, isn't it?
Not that I know of. The new laws have to do with filming in PA only. If they go to New York, Virginia, or wherever, they are under their labor laws there
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Anyone remember that reality show Kid Nation? They fled to Arizona or something to get away from California. It's like anything and the law, people will always go to a jurisdiction that is friendly to them and there's nothing their home state can do about it.
That's why some people say we need national child labor laws. Of course then they'll go to foreign countries. Terrible.
Like I said many times, Kate will fly under the radar, and put the kids on TV, and not tell Jon till after the fact
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She announced it on Twitter tonight. It's not after the fact. I'm sure by now he read about it. If she didn't want him finding out about it, she would have kept quiet.
What do you want to bet the school is fed up with her?
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Remember when Kristin what's her face from those vampire movies was whining about how her teachers didn't know how to help her?
I had the same thought I bet those teachers were FED UP with having to cater to that millionaire star's every whim and scheduling conflict. I bet they were actually interested in the children who wanted to focus on the only job a child should ever have, their education. Why should they drop everything to help her if school isn't her priority?
We're looking at Tuesday or Wednesday before most "emergency" hearings would even have a chance at being heard.
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When the court is closed on weekdays, nights, weekends or holidays, an emergency protection from abuse order may be granted by the Magisterial District Justice, a master for emergency relief, or in Philadelphia, a bail commissioner.
So what's Jon's excuse? He simply can NOT allow the girls to humiliate themselves on television. Please, Jon, do SOME thing!
SHAME ON HER! So those kids are missing 3 + days of school, just so she can get her mug on TV.
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How do you figure three plus days, unless she extends this tour into next week (sigh...don't even want to think about it)? They miss tomorrow if they come back at the end of the day; if not, perhaps part of Friday. Monday is a day off for MLK day.
I've been having the same thought that she is really no different than a pan-handler. There are a lot of things she could be doing but it's easier to get hand outs. I
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No different except for one thing at least the panhandler owns that they are asking for a handout and doesn't try to pretend that's not what is really happening. I would have more respect for Kate if she held a cup out and shook it. I might even give her something just because I'd be so happy she finally owned it.
She announced it on Twitter tonight. It's not after the fact. I'm sure by now he read about it. If she didn't want him finding out about it, she would have kept quiet.
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No, it's not that she doesn't want him finding out. She WANTS him to know because this is all about sticking it to him. But, she just doesn't want him to find out in time to get a court date. He can't get a court date now. Court are closed and lawyers have gone home. She announced it just in time for his attorney to shut off her work cell, close her work email and head home to her kids. She announced it just in time for it to be too late to run to court.
When the court is closed on weekdays, nights, weekends or holidays, an emergency protection from abuse order may be granted by the Magisterial District Justice, a master for emergency relief, or in Philadelphia, a bail commissioner.
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That's typically for a restraining order, if someone is going to seriously injure you or even kill you. That's typically not for nasty family law disputes unless you're trying to leave the country with the kids or something. This is no way shape or form would ever qualify for that. This would not be an "emergency" by any stretch of the imagination in any court I've ever been in. As much as it may be an emergency to us, that's not how court works. They deal with hundreds of thousands of family law disputes like this a day and only a scant few are classified as true emergencies to open the courts, and usually involve the child's life.
What do you want to bet the school is fed up with her? The woman is a nightmare. I can't imagine the number of times they've had to deal with her regarding the kids absentees and other issues that we'll never know about. She is so freaking out of control at this point they're probably ready to throw their hands up and say to hell with it, let her have her way we have a school to run here.
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Auntie Ann...you are so perceptive:)
I have already emailed Today and The View with my disgust. So many contributors to this board are passionate, eloquent writers. Please consider sharing your thoug. Websites have email contact info.
You know what I think, I think she honestly wanted to make a go at being famous without the kids. I think they are a means to an end, and more often than not a nuisance to her. But she held on desperately to custody of them just in case she ever needed to play the kid card again. Well the time has come. She's realized there are no takers for just her, so now she's throwing the hail Mary pass and throwing the kids back out there. This is however, not her preference and her method of last resort, so we know she must be feeling really desperate at this point or why not pull this ages ago? It will be interesting to see if she can just let the girls talk without trying to insert herself in it. Bet she can't do it. As much as she uses the kids so much I firmly believe this was never, ever about the kids. It was about HER and the what the fame and money brought HER.
I just checked the calendar for Cara and Mady's school. The two Go$$elin girls DO HAVE SCHOOL on Thursday, 1-16; on Friday, 1-17 AND on Monday, 1- 20.
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Check again, Monday is MLK Day. No school. I think you have to go to the community calendar link, pull up Monday, January 20, and there should be a little thing on the calendar block that says Martin Luther King. Click on it. It should say No School.
I haven't seen people this furious at Kate since, well...
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This stinks of the exact same technique that Kris used...
With one big difference...TFW and company live in rural PA and not LA. Not exactly the fashion and/or entertainment capital of the world. Sure they're close to NY but close only counts in hand grenades and horseshoes. I don't think any network in their right mind is going to finance nothing but trips for them. Who knows, maybe they tried out for Momagers and will be appearing on the upcoming season of that gem of a reality show.
She announced it on Twitter tonight. It's not after the fact. I'm sure by now he read about it. If she didn't want him finding out about it, she would have kept quiet.
__________________________________________ Good point, PA Dutch Mom. Let's keep our fingers crossed that Jon can get someone, ANY one, to listen to him!
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 1h
@Kateplusmy8 Okay you three...get some sleep. It will be an early morning 4U...that's 4sure! #SleepingBeauties pic.twitter.com/y1tIfmTaRQ :)
Milo makes my skin crawl. Sleeping beauties? This has to be a man. It just has to be. Doesn't it?
Jon should have pre-empted TFW and made the rounds of talk shows with the kids first.
It's gonna happen whether he likes it or not, so why not do it in a way that he can control?
The kids had exposure on CWS and Katie Couric and no one started banging down Kate's door to give them a new show. In her mind, does she think the twins saying they want to film again on a talk show means someone will jump at the chance to give them a series? As if the only reason it's been almost three years since they had a series is because she's been saying the kids miss it and now that the twins are publicly saying the same, here comes the series she's been dreaming about? Am I following Kate's thought process correctly?
Interesting that a while back Milo was praising people for helping 'mom kate fly under the radar' for her safety, and yet TFW doesn't have *any* of those concerns for her children.
Once the twins spout off their coached answers about the divorce, what would they have to say that would be of interest?
They don't do anything besides chores. Boring.
I don't think the original agenda for Jon to appear on WW was to be a rebuttal of that crap People article but since Liz didn't show Wendy changed the Focus of the interview. Whereas, what rationale is there for TFMJG to be dragging teens out of school to be interviewed? Oh, we want free trips and rotating crew families that we really, really deserve because our mommy is so awesome, fabulous and beautiful. And we are just as great too.
I can't see what they would offer in an interview, never mind another series. Would they do a series about them doing homework, taking care of the annoying siblings, working their way through the 52 point chore list. No, they want to go on fancy trips with their BFF, TFW.
Seriously, what I saw posted about the people article I fear they will make themselves look even more bratty. So sorry their mother has taught to be little princesses.
Glad I don't watch either show, both of them must have to be scraping the bottom of the barrel to think the Gosselin twins are what America wants for entrainment. I'd rather watch crazy pet tricks than two dull teens begging for a TV show.
The Hatfields and the McCoys are still at it.
I was checking out Kate's TL and it seems like some of the sheeple are coming out with guns blazing and deliberately poking at the non-fans with over-the-top comments, just to raise their blood pressure...and the "haters" seem to be taking the bait.
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I've been having the same thought that she is really no different than a pan-handler. There are a lot of things she could be doing but it's easier to get hand outs. I
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No different except for one thing at least the panhandler owns that they are asking for a handout and doesn't try to pretend that's not what is really happening. I would have more respect for Kate if she held a cup out and shook it. I might even give her something just because I'd be so happy she finally owned it.
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Shame on you Admin, calling Kate a panhandler! Don't you know that begging for a 14 passenger van, having to repeatedly beg to have your Gymboree gift card loaded, begging for Loft, begging for your Clinique, begging to have someone ANYONE foot Steve's bill, begging for toilet paper, begging for breast implants, @Chipolte, guacamole, chicken, @CoffeeMate, @Keurig, and Little Angel DVDs, begging people to buy cheap makeup and jewelry, begging people to buy Bella bars and your horrendously horrendous cookbook, begging people to GO ON MY CRUISE, please go on my CRUISE tickets are only $1,000 more than the usual cabin price PLEASE, begging @ApplianceQuickyFixGuys for {cough, cough} "broken appliance advice," begging someone to just hand her a new show and begging St Tony to just "teach her the right way................... is HARD WORK! That's not begging it's hard, hard work. And if you beg, errr, WORK hard too, YOU can have a servant like Steve ;)
Who knows, maybe they tried out for Momagers and will be appearing on the upcoming season of that gem of a reality show.
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I thought this said "germ" of a reality show, which, of course, would be true.
But she held on desperately to custody of them just in case she ever needed to play the kid card again. Well the time has come. She's realized there are no takers for just her, so now she's throwing the hail Mary pass and throwing the kids back out there.
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Didn't she try that with the cruise, and that didn't work either. Of course, you had the Trust Fund chick in there with her mass e-mailing fiasco, with a detective doing the vetting, and the whole thing failed miserably.
I made my post about asking people not to fire dirty shots at the girls and went off to deal with some other stuff and it looks like it created a bit of a war zone.
My reason for coming to this blog is to try and figure out a way to protect not only the gosselin kids but any kids who will end up in the world of reality tv or otherwise on the old boob tube. Is it my biggest and only passion? ..No! I have bigger fish to fry and greater passions closer to home to use my social activism on, but they all relate to kids and protecting them.
In my post #55 I copied the New York Child entertainment law. Permits are required, but as others have said, being interviewed on a news show likely does not fall under the scope of this law. Unless they are being paid, then it would/should but likely a grey area.
Here is a link to a site that will show you the map of the United States. You can click on any state and it will tell you whether there is a law for that state, if a working permit is required, and a quick snippet to what that law might be:
http://www.dol.gov/whd/state/childentertain.htm#NewYork
If M&C required the Principal or Superintendent of their school to sign the working permit giving permission for the girls to miss school, do you really think that person would NOT sign it?
If it was the Mayor of New York who needs to sign that working permit, do you really think that person is NOT going to sign it?
I dont think these people are going to go against the grain for a tv interview.
AS for the state that filmed Kid nation, where 40 kids under 16 were left in the desert for 40 days without adult supervision, That occurred in New Mexico, and they now seem to have some of THE strictest laws!!!
For those of you who had my back while I was gone THANK YOU!
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"That's typically for a restraining order, if someone is going to seriously injure you or even kill you. That's typically not for nasty family law disputes unless you're trying to leave the country with the kids or something. This is no way shape or form would ever qualify for that."
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You are correct about that. No magisterial district or emergency relief master is going to open any doors on a Wednesday night to issue a PFA because Kate Gosselin's twins are going to be on the Today show tomorrow.
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I deleted some of Rearranging's posts. Please do not quote posts you have a problem with, as then I have to delete yours too.
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You are a mind reader! I was just about to ask you if it would be possible to delete some of those!
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I'm behind but Jon?? Where are you and what are you doing to stop this?
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You can't snap your fingers and get a court date. If he just found out about this, he would not be able to get a court date tomorrow. Monday is a court holiday. We're looking at Tuesday or Wednesday before most "emergency" hearings would even have a chance at being heard. It would be done and over with by then.
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Thank you Admin, for pointing out the reality of family law, child custody issues, and the like. While it's understandable to feel frustration that one parent is seemingly doing "nothing," the truth is often quite different.
What exactly do some people think Jon should be doing to prevent these two appearances, short of basically kidnapping his teen daughters? If they are with their mother, how does he physically prevent or control anything they and their mother decide to do, as long as it's not breaking any laws?
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So what's Jon's excuse? He simply can NOT allow the girls to humiliate themselves on television. Please, Jon, do SOME thing!
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Oh my goodness. First of all, how do you know the girls will "humiliate themselves" on either appearance?
Second, a court designed to hear emergency petitions would not look favorably on Jon running in with his hair on fire, exclaiming to the Court, PLEASE DON'T LET MY DAUGHTERS BE ON THE VIEW! Emergency hearings would often be because a woman is in very real fear for her life from an abusive partner; or perhaps a child welfare agency believes a child is in serious danger in their home. Jon would actually look like a fool wasting the court's time when it is supposed to be dealing with life-threatening matters.
The twins appearing with Kate on The View or Today Show is ridiculous. She's clearly using them. But it's not life-threatening. If they end up being embarrassed by what they say, they will not die from it.
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It will be interesting to see if she can just let the girls talk without trying to insert herself in it. Bet she can't do it. As much as she uses the kids so much I firmly believe this was never, ever about the kids. It was about HER and the what the fame and money brought HER.
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Yep. And I agree - she will be unable to let either girl talk too long - because they spotlight must always be on TFW. She will insert her comments, make "funny" faces, and otherwise try to get the focus back on her. You would think that experienced interviewers on the Today Show or The View would be able to better control her by now - but let's see if she makes fools of them yet again.
This is just one more reason why Today has been losing viewers to Good Morning America. Plus that George Stephanopoulos and Robin Roberts are just so friendly and perky and nice and fun! Matt Lauer is unfun.
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You can't snap your fingers and get a court date. If he just found out about this, he would not be able to get a court date tomorrow. Monday is a court holiday. We're looking at Tuesday or Wednesday before most "emergency" hearings would even have a chance at being heard. It would be done and over with by then.
And the anonymous poster who keeps posting about legal custody clearly doesn't understand what legal custody means. Just because one or the other parent may have legal custody doesn't mean the other parent can't share their concerns with the court. Legal custody doesn't mean you have the right to take your kid out of school four days a week or consent to a lypo procedure or boob job for their young child or do other crazy things. The other parent has every right to complain to family law court if the parent is making decisions that are detrimental, legal or not. It means the legal parent can MAKE the decision without consulting the other parent, it does not mean the other parent can't protest their decision in court if it's something crazy. Best interest ALWAYS trumps everything and a judge will always hear complaints if they are valid.
And if Kate really had such control about this in terms of legal matters, then why not just tell Jon what is going on? Why does she hide it? Wouldn't she love to just rub it in as long as possible? She hides it because she knows he has every right to run to court if her "legal" decisions are detrimental. She knows it.
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I'm going to agree. I know from personal experience that the knee jerk reaction when a custodial parent is doing something that is not in the best interest in the child is to get an emergency hearing. It may take up to several days to get the emergency hearing on the docket . . you have to serve the other party, etc.
Anyway, TFW is so blind and hell-bent on getting her mug and the kids' mugs back on TV in order to refute the things Jon has been saying in his interviews and stick it to him AND beg for a new show that she hasn't stopped to think that she is validating everything that he and others have been saying about her. I really doubt that she and the kids have signed on for the Momanager show. She by herself is poison and most producers know it and once they factor in Jon, the father of the children, who is ready to go to court to keep his kids off TV, it's not worth the headache. So let her drag the twins onto the Today Show tomorrow. It will be a flop. Jon might be able to get a court order stopping the appearance on the View.
But even if he doesn't, she's just handing him more ammunition to take before the family court. I'd love to hear TFW explain to the judge why it is so imperative that the twins/kids go on these talk shows, sometimes missing school in the process, when they are not bound by any type of contract to make appearances on TV and haven't been for the last several years.
That would be worth some popcorn.
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Dutch Mom - I'll wager there are people on this very blog who've had dealings with her and have a plethora of stories to tell, but are obliged for whatever reason to remain silent.
We here only go by what we read and see in the tabloids and talk shows and whatever makes it to the surface. What lies beneath? Sometimes I don't think I want to know. Those kids must be living in some kind of hell.
Meagler, Greedy Gosselins said it best:
'Fair game' or not, these are children we're discussing. And WE are the adults. Just because their parents can't seem to shut up and their mother is throwing them to the wolves, doesn't mean we have to BE the wolves and take the bait.
Let us all try to remember this! I know that Kate makes me so angry that I want to lash out at someone but do know that 13 yr. old girls are off limits.
I had the same thought I bet those teachers were FED UP with having to cater to that millionaire star's every whim and scheduling conflict. I bet they were actually interested in the children who wanted to focus on the only job a child should ever have, their education. Why should they drop everything to help her if school isn't her priority?
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Oh, wonderful. Now the school is included in the tweet by a non-fan.
Was at my day job at 730 and my second by 5?got home at 1030 helped dd with chemistry . Now at midnight I check olinbtobdindbmissbdo nothing has gotten her mediocre twins booked on shows! Gmab. There used to be a twitter truther called Pimp My Kids. How apropos
My fear is that the twins will again bash their father and dear little sister, Alexis. An interview on the Today show will reach a much bigger audience than a magazine interview. It's ironic that Kate and the twins are being given these opportunities as they wouldn't be there were it not for the tups.
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