I swear I saw a comment implying that Jon buying one are of clothes aren't enough to warrant no CS (but now I can't find the comment to c/p).
If the tips are with him one night dzuring the week and weekends, that's 3 nights = 18 outfits. He feeds them. He washes those clothes. He had to buy sheets ans bedding. Also, he actually takes the kids out to fun places.
Instead of whining how Jon doesn't pay CS, I think the sheep need to ask the judge why he made that ruling. Are they saying the judge is dumb? Maybe they need to write and/or call him with their concerns. I'm sure the judge would love to hear how he's doing his job wrong. I'm sure hearing from Kate's psychofans will help her case immensely.
GosselinBookStTeam (173) Robert had a link up last year for donations to his legal defense fund. Can he put it up again? Maybe on his blog where it's easy for everyone to find. I think there are still plenty of people who will donate, either to help with his legal fees or to help with getting the book published again. I know I will. We believe in what he is doing, and we believe in him.
Instead of whining how Jon doesn't pay CS, I think the sheep need to ask the judge why he made that ruling. Are they saying the judge is dumb?
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Exactly. I'm sure the judge is well aware of how to calculate a child support payment. Even if that calculation comes up zero. I am sure he is well aware of what eight children need financially, and knows whether or not both parents are providing that without an official payment in place.
Go ask the judge if you have an issue with it. The end.
I agree with GosselinStreetbookTeam let's send Robert some cash. I am cancelling my internet for the next month and I am sending him the cash I would have spent on it. I encourage everyone to do the same.
Do any of you remember when J & K took the twins to the modeling talent agency during one of the first shows? It didn't fly then, and apparently it is not flying now. No wonder none of TFW's extended family are never around. They must be mortified by this chasing the golden platter their dear relative has been doing. Sick, really sick! Of course, they probably questioned what TFW was doing many years ago so the axe fell upon their relationship. How is that a good example for the 8 children?
Are we helping to keep these people relevant? That is not what I want to be doing.
Thanks NJ! I cracked myself up over that one..which is kinda sad LOL. Yep that's the way to role model KIGgie. Trash talk their Dad and when that gets you nowhere, plant weeds in your twins' mind to up the sibling rivalry. You'd ruin your children's relationship with each other for a few more bucks. Of course we know you don't value family bonds from your own behavior towards your family, in-laws and the church that did it's best to help you. I know you're miserable, lonely and terrified of your mediocre future but why in the hell would you want that for your kids? You're paving their future and they have no choice. I just can't believe this is still going on and getting worse.
Gosselinbook person, with all due respect, please stop pandering people on this board. Robert had the chance to make plenty the first time around if he'd done better research. He still has an opportunity to make a killing but it's up to him to fund this. The book being republished will do nothing to help these kids. Their mother has thrown their father and siblings under the bus on national t.v. and yet the sheep bleat on. The only way to stop TFW is in a court of law, in a suit filed by their father.
Thanks for your link to the crushable article "The Gosselin Twins Bring Their Publicity Tour Of Awkwardness To The View". It had an embedded youtube video of the whole view mess, complete with Barbara helping Kate put words in Mady's mouth at the end. Very poor quality, but it was 8:17, and I don't think it was edited.
Local, the kids were fine with the divorce but their mother had it hard? Of course she did, she told them so.
MathGirl the CTV website will have the show but likely only tomorrow, they seem to be a day behind because of time-shifting for the left coast. Check here tomorrow. http://www.ctv.ca/TheView/video.aspx
Vanessa, keep pasting the narcissist stuff. I helps me to remember I'm not the crazy one. ;>)
Ex-Nurse, a show where M zings Kreider with her snarky one-liners? Kreider playing the abused Jon character and M playing the abusive Kreider character? Ain't gonna happen, not in a million years. Kate would have a coronary before that would happen.
GosselinStBookTeam, I'd donate to Robert's legal fund in a heartbeat. Tell me how I can help? I want the second book or my collection will be incomplete. LOL If Admin doesn't want to do that on her site, so be it, but please make it public on twitter.
There's also a big difference between the twins not going to Jon's because they don't like him vs not going because Liz and her kids might be there and they may not like her or just feel like with her three kids there they never get a break (I'm assuming that Liz and her kids are at Jon's a lot). With the responsibility that Kate herself states she puts on them, it may be the only time they really get a break is when the sextuplets go to Jon's.
As for their disdain for their younger sibs (or at least Mady's), that can happen when you expect 13 year olds to parent their 9 year old siblings.
I suspect these two would welcome another reality show simply because mom could go back and hire the nannies and housekeepers and gardeners and of course Steve. And they could go back to being kids.
Mind, I'm not saying the kids shouldn't have chores or help out but we know Kate's extreme chore list. We also know that she "Let's the kids work it out" amongst themselves aka locks herself in her room and tweets and drinks her wine and ignores her kids. So naturally, who picks up the slack? And of course the tups don't feel like they need to listen to their older sisters, hence they are annoying.
It will be interesting to hear what "Growing Up Gosselin" was like when the kids are 20 and 24.
Now THIS is creepy...a woman commenting on the body of a young teen. How in the name of all that's holy would Milo know about Cara's body?
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 3m @steelergirl1014 @Kateplusmy8 Well...R they attacking the girls now? Cara is an athlete! Feminine but strong! No flab on her! #PrettyTeen
Frankly, the behavior Mady and Cara exhibited on both shows was frightening. Sure they are lovely, and Mady was quick witted, but neither was charming. Even the laughs Mady elicited were because she was sniping back a Kate, and not because they were intrinsically funny (laughing with vs at). Cara looks like she is worn out by it all, and Mady has a simmering rage with shades of Kate that truly worries me. Both are showing typical coping mechanisms in response to abuse and lack of positive reinforcement and attention. Mady's all dramatic and "look at me look at me" (which is also a form of distraction- the question is who and what is she trying to distract from?), and Cara is trying to go unnoticed and disappear. The point is- none of it is good, and Kate should truly be ashamed.
Lastly, as stated by a few of the previous commenters, both girls are learning at the hands of a master manipulator and it won't be much longer before the student becomes the teacher.
Like many of you here, my own childhood was less than idyllic, and I am trying very hard not to let that reflect in the formation of my opinion, but my intuition says that Mady (and possibly Cara too) has something over Kate. She is definitely afraid, but not nearly as afraid as she could be. Maybe she has some kind of internal insurance plan and she will play along, but only to a certain point? Or better yet, maybe there have been some Child welfare inquiries where they covered for Kate and kept her secrets, but hold the option of reneging over her head? Plus, they are old enough to maybe have spoken to a judge directly, and know that they can again?
Eeekkkkkk.....the whole thing is sordid and gross.
This woman's relentless obsession with getting back on tv is horrifying. She has no morals, no empathy and no level that is too low to sink to in order to get her withered mug back on tv. She couldn't care less about the trauma and damage these kids already have suffered being raised in a home that was a tv set. She just doesn't care. Getting that tv paycheck and perks is more important than her own flesh and blood and their well being.
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Yes, it is horrifying, Sparkle. And when Mady tried to lamely say the cameras weren't invasive, it was so obvious Kate had coached her to say exactly that.
Who said let's put our own titles out there? Here's a couple:
ExNurse, I Susan, in NH, consider Kate Gosselin to be the shittyiest failure of a dirtbag , most horrible Mother that ever gave birth to a human child. A garbage bag of human shit whom never considered her own children as breathing. Her kids are just props. She eats her own young, just like a SPIDER or a reptille.........An abomination. A hunk of dirt.
I think I'm the only one here who had a normal childhood. I loved my parents and family then, I love them now, and we're very close. But what so many of you have bravely shared has really helped me understand this mess.
Nope Admin you are not alone I had a "normal" childhood and am very close with my family. I think that's why this mess breaks my heart because I know what it's supposed to be like.
I "hated" my parents for all the right reasons they were my parents not my friends and let me tell you as a teenager I gave them a run for their money just as my daughter did to me. My dad would just laugh at we when I would whine to him about my awful teenage daughter lol
Jon needs to go back to court while Kate goes on tv and sells lies to ROL? Ever wonder why Kate doesn't initiate court proceedings? Why are the today show and the view just fine but inside addition and TMZ are wrong? Do you really think there's a difference?
I "hated" my parents for all the right reasons they were my parents not my friends and let me tell you as a teenager I gave them a run for their money just as my daughter did to me. My dad would just laugh at we when I would whine to him about my awful teenage daughter lol
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Exactly. You don't understand how good your parents really are until well into adulthood. Or bad, I suppose. They were not my friends then, but they are now. I LIKE them and would be friend with them even if they weren't family. I think the opposite often happens to those who try to be friends with their teens.
TFW acts so much like my mother that it's unsettling. She'll divide and conquer no one. Next, she'll become jealous of the kids that manage to salvage some sort of normal life. Then, when those kids have children, she'll become even more jealous seeing some of her kids have good relationships with their own children and effectively end the chain of abuse she started. It's almost always the same old song and dance when it comes to "mothers" like this. My mom and I hit the end of the road when she started in on my daughter and I stopped it. The same thing will happen to TFW, only times four at least.
Chicagoland has big snow and negative wind chills on the way. Everyone in the path of this stay warm, dry and well fed. I expect to be locked in at work :(
I think I'm the only one here who had a normal childhood. I loved my parents and family then, I love them now, and we're very close. But what so many of you have bravely shared has really helped me understand this mess.
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My parents did their best to raise good and honest kids whom they hoped would grow into good and honest adults. If somewhere along the line I have fallen by the wayside, and I have now and then, I take full responsibility for my own actions.
To borrow a quote Tom Selleck: I could go into analysis for 20 years and not blame them for anything.
My parents also encouraged close relationships with cousins, aunts and uncles. My aunt in Chicago I text at least three times a week and I see her at least once a year and often more. We are very close. She's like a second mom to me and gives great advice. That is a relationship I treasure. I can't imagine if some little spat she and my mom had when I was six years old resulted in her not being in my life forevermore.
chefsummer said... 27 LOL Kate didn't even bring up her own cookbook Sherri did. January 20, 2014 at 6:18 PM ****** Kate runs a restaurant, dontcha know? Except, there's no menu and no choice. Other than that, it's just like a restaurant. Except it's not.
Lastly, as stated by a few of the previous commenters, both girls are learning at the hands of a master manipulator and it won't be much longer before the student becomes the teacher.
Tucker's Mom said... 36 chefsummer said... 27 LOL Kate didn't even bring up her own cookbook Sherri did. January 20, 2014 at 6:18 PM ****** Kate runs a restaurant, dontcha know? Except, there's no menu and no choice. Other than that, it's just like a restaurant. Except it's not. _____
But the kids said it is a restaurant and mommy needs a cooking show.
I had a thought while reading the Radar article on the Jon's estrangement from the twins because he "sold" them over to their mom so he wouldn't have to pay child support.
If this is true, then there's one other thing to consider - Kate paid for them so she could continue to exploit them. Seems to me that the twins should be upset with both parents, and rightly so if this, again, is true.
So what's worse? Your mom offering to your dad that she'll forgo his child support as long as he agrees to never interfere with filming again because she knows he's struggling to make ends meet, or your dad taking the offer?
As I said, I'm really looking forward to hearing what it was like growing up Gosselin when the twins are in their 20's.
Kate runs a restaurant, dontcha know? Except, there's no menu and no choice. Other than that, it's just like a restaurant.
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Okay, she DID say that. I thought that's what she said.
Poor Kate. Poor ignorant Kate. Poor narcissistic Kate. Poor stupid, ignorant, narcissistic Kate. Does she really think because she has eight kids she's running a restaurant? In layman's terms it's called 'putting a meal on the table'. Parents do that. She's not unique.
"He has explained on his blog he's incurred massive debt from defending himself against Kate & her lawyers. He cannot afford to publish his book. Time to really have his back & show him some gratitude for his selfless work." (174)
Well, well, well... Al? Is it you? Very clever, that topsy turvy idea of yours to disguise yourself as a wolf to hide your true sheeple identity and try to make Hoffman look like a beggar of some sort. Won't work here. Most of us have a very good sheepledar... And, besides, I think Robert is a big boy perfectly capable of taking care of his own business.
I agree with Ex-Nurse that many people will find Mady's outrageous and outspoken comments delightful - much like Whoopie did. That kind of teenage sass has been all over TV shows for quite awhile now and it sells.
He just said not a few moths ago he and the twins have special sort of "date nights" together and do things just the three of them. What happened to those, has Kate taken even THAT from these poor kids? What a parental alienator of the worst kind!
And, someone DID see Jon with all eight of him over xmas, they were very clear it was all eight, so I question whether Jon may be exaggerating for maximum effect, upset as he is.
Why is Kate pushing for her THIRTEEN year old daughters to appear on a stupid reality show? At THIRTEEN, their top priority should be their EDUCATION not supporting a lazy fame hungry mother! Also, what about their own interests and activities? It is so obvious Cara wants nothing to do with television. Mady is a different story. She is just like Kate, a little drama queen that loves attention. At the very least, Kate should just focus on the child that actually wants to be in the limelight. Instead Kate wants to drag all of her children back into the spotlight ( I'm sure the sextuplets would eventually find themselves starring in several episodes of Growing up Gosselin). Who would have ever thought Kate Gosselin is actually more despicable than Kris Jenner when it comes to child exploitation!
This family is in more trouble than anyone could have ever imagined.
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Kate, through her latest antics, made everyone aware of it. She did this by dragging them on national television. Prior to those two television appearances, it was known by some; suspected by others. What she did was confirm it. She's not even close to playing with a full deck. She has shot herself in the foot so many times, but this time she won't have to worry about breaking any toes or feet. With so many holes there, she won't even need shoes.
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I am not able to see any of the View video...guess us canucks dont count!!..lol..
What I do want to say about the kids not seeing Jon. When they first started doing visitations and jon was in the apartment, I believe I read somewhere that it was crowded at times so he was switching up taking the 6 and then would take the twins. This might have given opportunity for the twins to get a break from the younger ones and more 1-1 time with their dad.
I can see this leading to more separation and a great fish hook for TFW ( who I am now want to call NB .. she is a Narcissistic Bitch who is a nobody-so not important ! NB hits both definitions)
Anyways, the NB figured out that having the girls to herself on weekends gives her lots of time to begin brain washing.
Mady went uhm, because she knew NB wanted her to say NO, to seeing her dad, but knew that she does see her dad. The twins go down with the not a nanny to pick up the 6.
Watch the dreaded drop off video and it is all displayed there for us to see. The twins walked down with the Not a Nanny., and give their dad a BIG hug right before they hop into the BBB to go back up to the house.
The NB is trying to get Mady to do a typical NB play on words. They do see their dad. They might not stay overnight ... perhaps not, I dont know. Jon likely alos sees them when he picks the 6 up from the school bus too.
People are saying about the twins not seeing him fro 9 months. I bet the stayed with mom to help herget the cookbook ready..you know editing and taking pictures. Then the lawsuit came and maybe they felt they had to pick sides, who knows. I tell ya tho, something fishy is up there.
I agree with Ex-Nurse that many people will find Mady's outrageous and outspoken comments delightful - much like Whoopie did. That kind of teenage sass has been all over TV shows for quite awhile now and it sells.
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It might sell for an episode or so, but in the long-run, it will never hold viewers. Sass wears thin after awhile. How much of it can you take before you say "enough"?
Chelsea Handler just had her opening monologue and it was making fun of/spoofing TFW and the Today show interview. Looks like they've got her number too.
That wouldn't surprise me (Jon exaggerating that is). I know he's speaking out and all, but it's getting old really fast. He should have kept it to supporting them on the Today show and left the Kate complaining out of it. He's starting to look like just as much of a gripe as she is. I wouldn't blame either of them for wanting to get away from both parents. But who knows? They might have stayed quiet on the subject of Jon because it really is Kate keeping them away and they do it because they know Jon will forgive them some day. Besides, Jon has Liz. In their minds, it could be a case of "Mom needs us. She doesn't have someone like Liz."
You're right. TFW did tell Mady that the kids had multiple birthday parties because they were preemies to which Mady replied, "but we were preemies too." Zing.
When my daughters were growing up, I said no a lot but I always explained the reason why. My mother would tell me no and when I questioned it, it was always, "because I said so." I hated that. Never any explanation as to why I couldn't do what I was requesting. I vowed I wouldn't do that to my kids and I didn't. They bitched when I said no and were angry but they have since both told me they would raise their kids the same way. And my youngest, who has two kids, is doing that. I guess my husband and I did something right. My husband and I are very close with our daughters and when all of us are together, we have a good time.
I was watching a couple of old videos of the Gosselins and came across these discrepancies.
1. Gosselins on the Oprah show by skype. Oprah has a couple from Texas on who are expecting quads and have 2 other kids at home. The expecting mothers asks Kate if she thinks they will be able to manage without help. Kate says yes, because both parents each have 2 arms and so can each hold 2 babies.
Kate says she was able to go back to work when the 6 were one years old.
2. Kate on the Dr Phil show after it was discovered the octomom had got pregnant with 8 intentionally: Kate is practically in tears as she feels so bad for those kids, and how is the mom going to be able to manage? Kate had 6+2 and couldnt cope ( this was when she willed herself to not have post partum depression)...
Kate says she didnt leave the house for 2 years!!! She would get up in the morning and never sit down all day. Her helpers gave her 15 minutes a day to it outside and have her lunch!
3. Kate has Oprah cameras come to her house to see what it is like in her home. Kate is sure to tell the oprah camera people to make sure they take thier shoes off. Some asks why she has her shoes on in the house. Kate syas it makes her look taller and slimmer.
Kate says: The crew of our show changes FREQUENTLY!!!!! It isnt something that she likes , but.. ( you cant really hear what she says) She then introduces the boom guys who is the ONLY cre guy who has been with them since the beginning. Other wise it CHANGES frequently!
UGH, did she say today, the crew was the same, and they still always see them? ya right.
jbranck1980 said... 54 Chelsea Handler just had her opening monologue and it was making fun of/spoofing TFW and the Today show interview. Looks like they've got her number too.
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Crap! I was flipping between her and Andy Cohen and missed it! What did she say? Love her!
As I said, I'm really looking forward to hearing what it was like growing up Gosselin when the twins are in their 20's.
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I think you're right Silimom. We'll have to wait for the books by the G8 to start appearing in about 10 or 15 years from now and read their perspective on all this. If they're all still with us.
This is to me, right now, a family ruined by reality tv and a narcissist gone stark raving mad.
Chelsea Handler just had her opening monologue and it was making fun of/spoofing TFW and the Today show interview. Looks like they've got her number too.
Oops. The Charity Uggs Lady loves Chelsea and asked her for tickets to a show. That isn't going to go over big with Uggs.
That wouldn't surprise me (Jon exaggerating that is). I know he's speaking out and all, but it's getting old really fast.
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Yes, it is. And I have a pretty high tolerance for the bickering back and forth and for him speaking out.
The problem with Jon is that he is great at setting things up perfect for himself but then doesn't know when to quit. I bet he is the type of person who can never walk away from the gambling table.
The PR on this is perfect in terms of Jon coming out on top. Everyone (well, almost) thinks Kate is just a terrible mother and feels sorry for Jon. So leave it, let it simmer, let it ride. The public doesn't need much more help to come to the conclusions they did. We've heard his take on it, loud and clear. He made a great statement last Thursday, now leave it.
Ha ha! Andy Cohen just roasted Kate! Said basically made some funny remarks a out how awful she was and that he would normally give her his jackhole of the day, but in the spirit of MLK he would give her his Mazel and try to say 3 nice things instead: 1. Her new head looks nice 2. The surgery looks good 3. The extensions are convincing
Crap! I was flipping between her and Andy Cohen and missed it! What did she say? Love her!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ She replayed some of the interview then claimed she had backstage footage of what happened afterward. Heather MacDonald portrayed TFW to perfection...even going so far as to pretend to pull out the twins braces because she couldn't afford the since she wasn't on TV. She said "The only thing I like about being a mother is being a mother on TV." Chelsea also called TFW a bitch at least once (I think twice).
Here's a show idea Kate- it will be a motherhood contest starring you, Dina Lohan, Octomom, and Kris Jenner. The first one to look away from the $ signs and their mirrors wins.
Andy Cohen just gave TFW the Mazel of the day. He said she would normally get the jackhole for her "unsuccessful dubious media tour with her two oldest kids to promote the fact that they're basically (air quotes) OK and they they don't hate her (and then he mouthed "they do") "however in the spirit of MLK Jr. I'm going to say 3 nice things about Kate Gosselin. OK, her new head looks good, the extensions are convincing and also look good....was that 3? I think that was 3" (he then moved on to the jackhole)...everyone was laughing and hooting as he was talking. I love Andy!
Anyone else would be mortified having so many people mock them, but TFW is probably delighted with all the attention (much like her daughter, sadly). Look at meeeee!
NJGal51 said... 68 Andy Cohen just gave TFW the Mazel of the day. He said she would normally get the jackhole for her "unsuccessful dubious media tour with her two oldest kids to promote the fact that they're basically (air quotes) OK and they they don't hate her (and then he mouthed "they do") "however in the spirit of MLK Jr. I'm going to say 3 nice things about Kate Gosselin. OK, her new head looks good, the extensions are convincing and also look good....was that 3? I think that was 3" (he then moved on to the jackhole)...everyone was laughing and hooting as he was talking. I love Andy! @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Yes! Great recap NJ. Much better than my bare bones list
"I just watched the segment, and I disagree with the poster who does not think the girls have "it". Mady seems to be a very pleasant combination of both parents. She has the same sense of comedy and quick thinking that served Jon well on the original show. Even if she was fed the dramatic silence line, she delivered it perfectly, and the audience and hosts loved it."
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I just watched the clip myself and I thought the same thing about Mady. She was spot on and had great timing. I thought she did great.
That being said, I'm still horrified that Kate is still pimping them out for a reality show. The twins are only 13 and need to know a life outside the fishbowl.
If Mady has "it" now, she will still have "it" when she's an adult and able to make those kinds of life altering decisions for herself. Let her excel in school plays and the debate team.
Mady's talent isn't an excuse for Kate to trot her out and show her off like a prize pony.
I just wanted to thank everyone for what a civil and intelligent conversation this has been through some pretty tense events on our screen lately.
I think just this past week alone there have ben over 2,000 comments on this blog. Overall, of those I think I only deleted a dozen or so. That's pretty good.
The other thing is that I really have seen many, many comments I wanted to respond to but there just wasn't time. Please be assured that even if your comment didn't get a reply it was read and appreciated. And welcome to the newbies who have popped in.
Just watched the View interview. Sad to say, Mady is a "mini-Kate". "Honestly". "I'm the talkative one" (I've the gift of the gab). Willing to put down her siblings for the sake of a laugh from the audience. She loved the audience reaction. She's a prima donna in the making. The View continues to be an active participant in the ongoing exploitation of the Gosselin minors. Such a sad situation.
Thanks T. I have a DVR so it's pause....frantically type on iPad....resume....pause....well, you get the idea
Admin I'm another that had a normal childhood. There were 7 of us kids and our parents were first and foremost our parents. We always knew that we were loved even when we got on their last nerve.
I got a quick message from one of my good sources that Kate was violating court orders with this latest stunt and that Jon will do something about it. I actually haven't checked this blog email in a few days, just too much going on, so it was kind of an old message.
I'm trying to get more info on that but I can only speculate. I'm actually wondering if this may even have to do with she's not allowed to take them out of the state without permission or at least informing their dad. Usually when you do that the father must be informed, legal or not. He's also made it clear he will fight any future filming, and I'm wondering if she is cooking up something without informing him which could be an issue. Yes the judge said they had a contract but that was for a pre existing contract. It might be an issue that violates their current orders to sign a NEW contract with informing Jon, legal or not. Just a total guess.
Parental alienators do not are about court orders. They are suggestions to them, not orders, and don't really apply to them.
Re the speculation that TFW may be in some possible talks with a network or producer about creating a show called Growing up Gosselin featuring the twins --- I do believe anything is possible. But I also think the network/producer who took on this show would be taking a huge risk. Cara really seems unhappy with a camera on her. She may simply be painfully shy; or she make actually hate being filmed. Either way, her discomfort makes viewers uncomfortable on her behalf.
Mady might love being filmed, and she may have some smart aleck comments to make. However, that too wears thin fast. This is not a slam on her, but she is average. I cannot imagine a lot of viewers tuning in to see an average 13 year old girl make smart remarks about her younger siblings and life in general.
As to TFW - her three to six fixated fans can't carry a show for her. She'll want to be the center of attention. She interpose at any chance she gets and add her "humorous" comments about her twin daughters. The audience will find her intrusive and annoying as all get out (as they did when it was K+8).
If someone is foolish enough to sink money into producing this show and it finds a slot on some cable network, I predict they'll make only a few episodes, after which it won't be picked up for any further. And maybe that would end up being the silver lining - perhaps Mady at least would come to realize that she isn't going to get another tv show, nor will she get a singing contract, nor will she get jobs on commercials, etc. She is going to just be a regular person who was once on an ill-fated reality tv show.
I'm sorry to hear Jon is making an ass of himself once again. I guess he just cannot help it. He is a nice person, but I think he's often dumb as a box of rocks. He needs to stop giving interviews about the situation and work directly with his attorney to see if he can stop any future filming of his kids, or at least stop his ex from taking them out of the state without his permission. But I have no idea if he'll do so or merely continue to gripe in public about his very real troubles dealing with the shrew he unfortunately married years ago.
I got a quick message from one of my good sources that Kate was violating court orders with this latest stunt and that Jon will do something about it. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Yesss!
I agree with the posters who said everyone likes a train wreck but people do not like train wrecks when they involve children_________
And yet Honey Boo Boo is in it's 3rd (or is it 4th?) season.
I don't think the general public discriminates.
He should take it up with a judge then, not talk about it on television. He is legally entitled to see his children according to the custody schedule. Go to court if that's not happening, don't complain about it on Inside Edition.______________________________________
AMEN. Again, what has Jon learned from their last rodeo?? Nothing, it appears. For ONCE, can he not be the supportive, level headed parent? These kids need someone they can trust.
Admin, I know it seems as though many here have had less than ideal families and I am one of them. But it wasn't all doom and gloom. I learned to read at a very early age and books became my refuge and my salvation. I read a lot and learned a lot and observed even more and created a fine little life in my own head.
I did have good friends who had good families and I learned from them. I did have lots of outside activities and learned from them. I began to sift the wheat from the chaff at an early age. I developed a set of values that have served me well in life and so I have been able to have a successful marriage and wonderful kids and while I won't speak for them and call it ideal, it has been good.
I suppose I could thank my mother for that, for making me someone who learned early on what I wanted for myself and what not to do, how not to behave to achieve it.
The other thing is that I really have seen many, many comments I wanted to respond to but there just wasn't time. Please be assured that even if your comment didn't get a reply it was read and appreciated. And welcome to the newbies who have popped in.
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There have been so many good comments, I find myself reading through and wanting to comment on all of them! Admin, thanks for keeping up with thousands of messages. I liked when Robert referred to this as "the last remaining Gosselin blog."
Kate is such an ignorant fool. Sassy, disrespectful teens only works on sitcoms. Now you may not agree w/ their religious/political stance, but if you look at the #1 family reality show, Duck Dynasty, you see a family that loves each other. On the few times the kids are on (definitely not every single episode) they are spending time w/ Grandma and Grandpa....learning how to fish, learning how to bake. The teens are respectful to their elders and enjoy healthy relationships w/ their cousins. No one wants to see a 13 year old berating, bullying, emotionally damaging her younger siblings...just like mom. Kate is a mental mess of a bitch for letting Maddy say those things. The public will hate her and how does a 13 year old recover from that?
Mady and Cara also used silence as a mode of expression, like a pair of twins plotting together to take down the world solely by their non-verbal twinspeak of squints and winks. When asked about dealing with their parents’ divorce, they looked at each other and laughed. When asked about their siblings, Kate interrupted to tell Mady that this was the question she’s been waiting to answer her whole life, and Mady said evenly, “You ruined my dramatic silence.” It was chilling. Upon being presented with another question Mady said, “Cara would you like me to talk or would you like to talk? OK, I’ll talk. I’m the more talkative one.” Her tone was so measured and emotionless, it was as though she was a child of the corn and by “talkative” she meant “stabby.”
I got a quick message from one of my good sources that Kate was violating court orders with this latest stunt and that Jon will do something about it. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Yesss! ------------
her narcissism and parental alienation knows no bounds. I've never seen anyone as bad as WOS.
The only thing that will stop her is for Jon to gain custody and WOS have supervised visits. She'll fight Jon until her dying breath.
Also, maybe part of Maddy blames the 6 for the divorce. Life was all hunky dory before them. Mom and Dad loved each other, grandparents, aunts, uncles, cousins were all in the picture. Then came the 6 and all the securities she ever knew were gone. Just a thought.
Unfortunately, as long as someone is willing to give Kate and Jon a platform to bash each other, the back and forth will continue. The View and the Today Show are in it for the ratings. Obviously, with the bad press Kate received on the Today show, they will probably continue to use her to amp up their viewership. Jon, oh Jon . . . he didn't HAVE to do the Couples Therapy. If it was REALLY about needing therapy, he wouldn't do it in front of millions of people, he would do it privately. He can say it was because the "therapy was free" but I don't believe him. I believe he did it for the money and he also likes being in the media. They are both fame whores and their children are becoming fame whores. It is a way of life for them now, and apparently one that none of them are willing to give up easily.
Mady might love being filmed, and she may have some smart aleck comments to make. However, that too wears thin fast. This is not a slam on her, but she is average. I cannot imagine a lot of viewers tuning in to see an average 13 year old girl make smart remarks about her younger siblings and life in general.
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Exactly. I think that the networks would look at the longevity of this. Oh, it might draw some viewers for a brief time, but what networks wants to invest money when they can take a look at how Kate's rantings dropped when it was just her and the eight.
Agree that Jon has said all that needs to be said. He's ahead of the game. This tit for tat gets annoying, and he needs to back off with the interviews. If she's violating a court order, then he needs to pursue it in the courts and not depend on media fodder to do battle with TFW.
She absolutely did violate orders because child custody orders in PA all have a standard addendum of general rules. I don't have mine in front of me but they include things like the child shall have reasonable telephone contact with the other parent, the parent shall not speak negatively about the other in the child's presence, etc.
I can't find it online but here is one from Indiana. I'm sure most states have something similar:
http://www.in.gov/judiciary/rules/parenting/
SECTION I. GENERAL RULES APPLICABLE TO PARENTING TIME A. COMMUNICATIONS
1. Between Parents. Parents shall at all times keep each other advised of their home and work addresses, telephone numbers and email addresses. Notice of any change in this information shall be given to the other parent in writing. All communications concerning a child shall be conducted between the parents. Any communication shall occur at reasonable times and places unless circumstances require otherwise. A child shall not be used to exchange documents or financial information between parents.
2. With A Child Generally. A child and a parent shall be entitled to private communications without interference from the other parent. A child shall never be used by one parent to spy or report on the other. Each parent shall encourage the child to respect and love the other parent. Parents shall at all times avoid speaking negatively about each other in or near the presence of the child, and they shall firmly discourage such conduct by relatives or friends.
3. With A Child By Telephone. Both parents shall have reasonable phone access to their child. Telephone communication with the child by either parent to the residence where the child is located shall be conducted at reasonable hours, shall be of reasonable duration, and at reasonable intervals, without interference from the other parent.
I agree Jon needs to man up, quit whining, and do something. Go back for shared legal custody with evidence of her harmful decisions. Pay child support, and enforce the custody order. Sure teens can decide if they can't come due to plans or whatever but they are very young still. In this kind of alienation situation he needs to see them as often as possible and he needs to get them into therapy with him. Come on Jon!!
What network would possible be talking with her? The big three for reality shows are TLC, E!, an Bravo. TLC won't have anything to do with her, and the major hosts from the other two networks just bashed her.
Paula said... 95 If there really was a show, Kate would not be trying to sell it, but announce and promote it.
Without knowing what Jon has/has not done legally, telling him to "man up" is rather insulting and disrespectful.
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Sorry if I'm not respectful to someone who is allowing his ex to keep his 13 year olds from him and seemingly letting her have the kids two Christmases in a row, and letting on that he sees the twins regularly when it turns out it's a quick hug (if that) when bringing the other ones home. He's telling all to the media, I'm sure if he had done more he would be saying so to Inside Edition.
J&K divorced when Mady was 9 and yet she knew it was harder on Kate than on her. What does that say? How much did Kate tell those kids? It's too bad Kate didn't tell the kids that she initiated the break up of the relationship, withheld affection from their father, carried on with traveling around the country with a married man long after her husband asked her to stop, and refused to attend counseling sessions. If the divorce was so hard on Kate she can only blame herself. How dare she look to her children for pity.
"Man Up" is a derogatory term. You have no idea what he has/has not done behind the scenes to keep Kate "in check". Unless you have some information that the rest of us do not. Yes, he's telling it to the media because that's the only way to fight Kate at this point. Nothing else has worked. What's the saying.."...unless you have walked in my shoes.."?
Sorry if I'm not respectful to someone who is allowing his ex to keep his 13 year olds from him and seemingly letting her have the kids two Christmases in a row, and letting on that he sees the twins regularly when it turns out it's a quick hug (if that) when bringing the other ones home. He's telling all to the media, I'm sure if he had done more he would be saying so to Inside Edition. ***************** Unfortunately, I agree with you on this. They all need therapy, and not on TV.
It is pretty clear to anyone who has been a child of divorce that not only the divorce but the tension in the household before and after affects the child. Mady was, as sure as I breathe, coached by Kate to say she doesn't remember much from that time and the divorce did not affect her. On what planet does a 9 yr. old not know what is going on between mom and dad? Kate has launched a full scale assault to prove, to the handful that buy into it, that her children have NO issues because she is their sounding board and best parent ever on the planet.
ITA she has violated Jon's rights and does not give a damn. She just wants him to keep spending money on attorney fees. Horrible.
Sorry if I'm not respectful to someone who is allowing his ex to keep his 13 year olds from him and seemingly letting her have the kids two Christmases in a row, .... --------------------------- Just curious, how do you know that Kate had the kids for 2 Christmases in a row?
504 sediments (sic) from readers:
«Oldest ‹Older 401 – 504 of 504 Newer› Newest»I swear I saw a comment implying that Jon buying one are of clothes aren't enough to warrant no CS (but now I can't find the comment to c/p).
If the tips are with him one night dzuring the week and weekends, that's 3 nights = 18 outfits. He feeds them. He washes those clothes. He had to buy sheets ans bedding. Also, he actually takes the kids out to fun places.
Instead of whining how Jon doesn't pay CS, I think the sheep need to ask the judge why he made that ruling. Are they saying the judge is dumb? Maybe they need to write and/or call him with their concerns. I'm sure the judge would love to hear how he's doing his job wrong. I'm sure hearing from Kate's psychofans will help her case immensely.
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Robert had a link up last year for donations to his legal defense fund. Can he put it up again? Maybe on his blog where it's easy for everyone to find. I think there are still plenty of people who will donate, either to help with his legal fees or to help with getting the book published again. I know I will. We believe in what he is doing, and we believe in him.
Instead of whining how Jon doesn't pay CS, I think the sheep need to ask the judge why he made that ruling. Are they saying the judge is dumb?
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Exactly. I'm sure the judge is well aware of how to calculate a child support payment. Even if that calculation comes up zero. I am sure he is well aware of what eight children need financially, and knows whether or not both parents are providing that without an official payment in place.
Go ask the judge if you have an issue with it. The end.
I agree with GosselinStreetbookTeam let's send Robert some cash. I am cancelling my internet for the next month and I am sending him the cash I would have spent on it. I encourage everyone to do the same.
Do any of you remember when J & K took the twins to the modeling talent agency during one of the first shows? It didn't fly then, and apparently it is not flying now. No wonder none of TFW's extended family are never around. They must be mortified by this chasing the golden platter their dear relative has been doing. Sick, really sick! Of course, they probably questioned what TFW was doing many years ago so the axe fell upon their relationship. How is that a good example for the 8 children?
Are we helping to keep these people relevant? That is not what I want to be doing.
Sorry, not the second link I posted by accident, but use the one in the tweet.
pic.twitter.com/NI8UTFhxUz
Kate puts Andy Cohen in his place!
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Maybe it's just me, but there really seems to be something lacking in your delivery.
Thanks NJ! I cracked myself up over that one..which is kinda sad LOL. Yep that's the way to role model KIGgie. Trash talk their Dad and when that gets you nowhere, plant weeds in your twins' mind to up the sibling rivalry. You'd ruin your children's relationship with each other for a few more bucks. Of course we know you don't value family bonds from your own behavior towards your family, in-laws and the church that did it's best to help you. I know you're miserable, lonely and terrified of your mediocre future but why in the hell would you want that for your kids? You're paving their future and they have no choice. I just can't believe this is still going on and getting worse.
Gosselinbook person, with all due respect, please stop pandering people on this board. Robert had the chance to make plenty the first time around if he'd done better research. He still has an opportunity to make a killing but it's up to him to fund this. The book being republished will do nothing to help these kids. Their mother has thrown their father and siblings under the bus on national t.v. and yet the sheep bleat on. The only way to stop TFW is in a court of law, in a suit filed by their father.
And if that is what is going on here, that is pretty darn sick.
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Isn't most of what she does pretty darn sick?
Carole at 61,
Thanks for your link to the crushable article "The Gosselin Twins Bring Their Publicity Tour Of Awkwardness To The View". It had an embedded youtube video of the whole view mess, complete with Barbara helping Kate put words in Mady's mouth at the end. Very poor quality, but it was 8:17, and I don't think it was edited.
Wow, just wow.
My first post. I think the fact that mady didn't turn on dad at the end but looked at mother was a tale tell sign.
I think the fact that they didn't feel they were involved with divorce at any age was a Kate thing.
I remember my mom left my dad for 3 months and we lived in an apt. I complained once because Dad was an A**hole I have a new bus stop.
My Mom went postal. that is your father. They got back together and were together after that 30 years long.
But I remember the 3 months at apt. And Mady remembers the divore.
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Is this some kind of fundraising sanctioned by RH?
Catching up. Again.
Random thoughts:
Local, the kids were fine with the divorce but their mother had it hard? Of course she did, she told them so.
MathGirl the CTV website will have the show but likely only tomorrow, they seem to be a day behind because of time-shifting for the left coast. Check here tomorrow. http://www.ctv.ca/TheView/video.aspx
Vanessa, keep pasting the narcissist stuff. I helps me to remember I'm not the crazy one. ;>)
Ex-Nurse, a show where M zings Kreider with her snarky one-liners? Kreider playing the abused Jon character and M playing the abusive Kreider character? Ain't gonna happen, not in a million years. Kate would have a coronary before that would happen.
GosselinStBookTeam, I'd donate to Robert's legal fund in a heartbeat. Tell me how I can help? I want the second book or my collection will be incomplete. LOL If Admin doesn't want to do that on her site, so be it, but please make it public on twitter.
PJ
There's also a big difference between the twins not going to Jon's because they don't like him vs not going because Liz and her kids might be there and they may not like her or just feel like with her three kids there they never get a break (I'm assuming that Liz and her kids are at Jon's a lot). With the responsibility that Kate herself states she puts on them, it may be the only time they really get a break is when the sextuplets go to Jon's.
As for their disdain for their younger sibs (or at least Mady's), that can happen when you expect 13 year olds to parent their 9 year old siblings.
I suspect these two would welcome another reality show simply because mom could go back and hire the nannies and housekeepers and gardeners and of course Steve. And they could go back to being kids.
Mind, I'm not saying the kids shouldn't have chores or help out but we know Kate's extreme chore list. We also know that she "Let's the kids work it out" amongst themselves aka locks herself in her room and tweets and drinks her wine and ignores her kids. So naturally, who picks up the slack? And of course the tups don't feel like they need to listen to their older sisters, hence they are annoying.
It will be interesting to hear what "Growing Up Gosselin" was like when the kids are 20 and 24.
Changed my mind. post the CT recap tomorrow, to bump TFMJG off the top post. I want to read your impressions of the participants.
Now THIS is creepy...a woman commenting on the body of a young teen. How in the name of all that's holy would Milo know about Cara's body?
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 3m
@steelergirl1014 @Kateplusmy8 Well...R they attacking the girls now? Cara is an athlete! Feminine but strong! No flab on her! #PrettyTeen
Frankly, the behavior Mady and Cara exhibited on both shows was frightening. Sure they are lovely, and Mady was quick witted, but neither was charming. Even the laughs Mady elicited were because she was sniping back a Kate, and not because they were intrinsically funny (laughing with vs at). Cara looks like she is worn out by it all, and Mady has a simmering rage with shades of Kate that truly worries me. Both are showing typical coping mechanisms in response to abuse and lack of positive reinforcement and attention. Mady's all dramatic and "look at me look at me" (which is also a form of distraction- the question is who and what is she trying to distract from?), and Cara is trying to go unnoticed and disappear. The point is- none of it is good, and Kate should truly be ashamed.
Lastly, as stated by a few of the previous commenters, both girls are learning at the hands of a master manipulator and it won't be much longer before the student becomes the teacher.
Like many of you here, my own childhood was less than idyllic, and I am trying very hard not to let that reflect in the formation of my opinion, but my intuition says that Mady (and possibly Cara too) has something over Kate. She is definitely afraid, but not nearly as afraid as she could be. Maybe she has some kind of internal insurance plan and she will play along, but only to a certain point? Or better yet, maybe there have been some Child welfare inquiries where they covered for Kate and kept her secrets, but hold the option of reneging over her head? Plus, they are old enough to maybe have spoken to a judge directly, and know that they can again?
Eeekkkkkk.....the whole thing is sordid and gross.
This woman's relentless obsession with getting back on tv is horrifying. She has no morals, no empathy and no level that is too low to sink to in order to get her withered mug back on tv. She couldn't care less about the trauma and damage these kids already have suffered being raised in a home that was a tv set. She just doesn't care. Getting that tv paycheck and perks is more important than her own flesh and blood and their well being.
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Yes, it is horrifying, Sparkle. And when Mady tried to lamely say the cameras weren't invasive, it was so obvious Kate had coached her to say exactly that.
Who said let's put our own titles out there? Here's a couple:
"Growing up with Twisted Kate"
"Kate + Hate - Mate = Police State"
ExNurse, I Susan, in NH, consider Kate Gosselin to be the shittyiest failure of a dirtbag , most horrible Mother that ever gave birth to a human child. A garbage bag of human shit whom never considered her own children as breathing. Her kids are just props. She eats her own young, just like a SPIDER or a reptille.........An abomination. A hunk of dirt.
I think I'm the only one here who had a normal childhood. I loved my parents and family then, I love them now, and we're very close. But what so many of you have bravely shared has really helped me understand this mess.
How can anyone who does not value or respect relationships with their own parents and siblings, possibly teach her children to value their's?
Au contraire, The View DID announce everyone was getting a copy of the crookbook!
Nope Admin you are not alone I had a "normal" childhood and am very close with my family. I think that's why this mess breaks my heart because I know what it's supposed to be like.
I "hated" my parents for all the right reasons they were my parents not my friends and let me tell you as a teenager I gave them a run for their money just as my daughter did to me. My dad would just laugh at we when I would whine to him about my awful teenage daughter lol
Jon needs to go back to court while Kate goes on tv and sells lies to ROL? Ever wonder why Kate doesn't initiate court proceedings? Why are the today show and the view just fine but inside addition and TMZ are wrong? Do you really think there's a difference?
No one wants to watch a bunch of kids fight & bicker
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Yeah we do lol but the Kardashian have that covered.
Rhythm Of Life said... 193
Not sure she has many others in a pool to choose from.
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Milo and Lauren? Lauren and Gypsi?
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Jamie Ashley the ugg lady.
LOL Kate didn't even bring up her own cookbook Sherri did.
I "hated" my parents for all the right reasons they were my parents not my friends and let me tell you as a teenager I gave them a run for their money just as my daughter did to me. My dad would just laugh at we when I would whine to him about my awful teenage daughter lol
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Exactly. You don't understand how good your parents really are until well into adulthood. Or bad, I suppose. They were not my friends then, but they are now. I LIKE them and would be friend with them even if they weren't family. I think the opposite often happens to those who try to be friends with their teens.
Virginia Pen Mom said... 18
"Growing up with Twisted Kate"
"Kate + Hate - Mate = Police State"
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Jon beats Kate & Helps the 8 Escape.
TFW acts so much like my mother that it's unsettling. She'll divide and conquer no one. Next, she'll become jealous of the kids that manage to salvage some sort of normal life. Then, when those kids have children, she'll become even more jealous seeing some of her kids have good relationships with their own children and effectively end the chain of abuse she started. It's almost always the same old song and dance when it comes to "mothers" like this. My mom and I hit the end of the road when she started in on my daughter and I stopped it. The same thing will happen to TFW, only times four at least.
Chicagoland has big snow and negative wind chills on the way. Everyone in the path of this stay warm, dry and well fed. I expect to be locked in at work :(
Apparently admin we are the lucky ones for which I am thankful everyday!!
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 20
I think I'm the only one here who had a normal childhood. I loved my parents and family then, I love them now, and we're very close. But what so many of you have bravely shared has really helped me understand this mess.
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My parents did their best to raise good and honest kids whom they hoped would grow into good and honest adults. If somewhere along the line I have fallen by the wayside, and I have now and then, I take full responsibility for my own actions.
To borrow a quote Tom Selleck: I could go into analysis for 20 years and not blame them for anything.
I "hated" my parents for all the right reasons they were my parents not my friends and let me tell you as a teenager
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My mother all ways to me and my brothers."I'm your mother first and your friend second"
My parents also encouraged close relationships with cousins, aunts and uncles. My aunt in Chicago I text at least three times a week and I see her at least once a year and often more. We are very close. She's like a second mom to me and gives great advice. That is a relationship I treasure. I can't imagine if some little spat she and my mom had when I was six years old resulted in her not being in my life forevermore.
In the TMZ interview Jon said that when he saw them for visitation he was going to hug them and ask them about school. He sees them.
chefsummer said... 27
LOL Kate didn't even bring up her own cookbook Sherri did.
January 20, 2014 at 6:18 PM
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Kate runs a restaurant, dontcha know?
Except, there's no menu and no choice. Other than that, it's just like a restaurant.
Except it's not.
Lastly, as stated by a few of the previous commenters, both girls are learning at the hands of a master manipulator and it won't be much longer before the student becomes the teacher.
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,,,or the student surpasses the teacher.
Tucker's Mom said... 36
chefsummer said... 27
LOL Kate didn't even bring up her own cookbook Sherri did.
January 20, 2014 at 6:18 PM
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Kate runs a restaurant, dontcha know?
Except, there's no menu and no choice. Other than that, it's just like a restaurant.
Except it's not.
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But the kids said it is a restaurant and mommy needs a cooking show.
I had a thought while reading the Radar article on the Jon's estrangement from the twins because he "sold" them over to their mom so he wouldn't have to pay child support.
If this is true, then there's one other thing to consider - Kate paid for them so she could continue to exploit them. Seems to me that the twins should be upset with both parents, and rightly so if this, again, is true.
So what's worse? Your mom offering to your dad that she'll forgo his child support as long as he agrees to never interfere with filming again because she knows he's struggling to make ends meet, or your dad taking the offer?
As I said, I'm really looking forward to hearing what it was like growing up Gosselin when the twins are in their 20's.
Tucker's Mom said... 36
Kate runs a restaurant, dontcha know?
Except, there's no menu and no choice. Other than that, it's just like a restaurant.
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Okay, she DID say that. I thought that's what she said.
Poor Kate. Poor ignorant Kate. Poor narcissistic Kate. Poor stupid, ignorant, narcissistic Kate. Does she really think because she has eight kids she's running a restaurant? In layman's terms it's called 'putting a meal on the table'. Parents do that. She's not unique.
Wow. Just wow. Her ego is totally out of control.
I'm breaking open a fresh keg.
"He has explained on his blog he's incurred massive debt from defending himself against Kate & her lawyers. He cannot afford to publish his book. Time to really have his back & show him some gratitude for his selfless work." (174)
Well, well, well... Al? Is it you? Very clever, that topsy turvy idea of yours to disguise yourself as a wolf to hide your true sheeple identity and try to make Hoffman look like a beggar of some sort. Won't work here. Most of us have a very good sheepledar... And, besides, I think Robert is a big boy perfectly capable of taking care of his own business.
Mady likes One DIrection. Cara likes Demi. No mention of Taylor Swift. I guess that's the end of the free tickets and passes for her concerts.
I agree with Ex-Nurse that many people will find Mady's outrageous and outspoken comments delightful - much like Whoopie did. That kind of teenage sass has been all over TV shows for quite awhile now and it sells.
Admin that's it!! Twins vs. Tups!! Brought to you by Kate and Steve Productions.
Admin that's it!! Twins vs. Tups!! Brought to you by Kate and Steve Productions.
http://www.insideedition.com/entertainment/7654-kate-gosselin-and-daughters-address-awkward-interview
Jon Gosselin spoke to INSIDE EDITION’s Les Trent exclusively about his relationship with his twin daughters.
Jon said, "Maddy and Cara don't go to my house that much."
Trent asked, "How often do you see them?”
"I see them when I do custody drop-offs. Kate's been isolating me from them for some time," said Jon.
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Trent asked, "How often do you see them?”
"I see them when I do custody drop-offs. Kate's been isolating me from them for some time," said Jon.
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This family is in more trouble than anyone could have ever imagined.
WOW look how much thinner Kate looks now on the View than she did a year ago. Holy anorexia
He just said not a few moths ago he and the twins have special sort of "date nights" together and do things just the three of them. What happened to those, has Kate taken even THAT from these poor kids? What a parental alienator of the worst kind!
And, someone DID see Jon with all eight of him over xmas, they were very clear it was all eight, so I question whether Jon may be exaggerating for maximum effect, upset as he is.
Why is Kate pushing for her THIRTEEN year old daughters to appear on a stupid reality show? At THIRTEEN, their top priority should be their EDUCATION not supporting a lazy fame hungry mother! Also, what about their own interests and activities? It is so obvious Cara wants nothing to do with television. Mady is a different story. She is just like Kate, a little drama queen that loves attention. At the very least, Kate should just focus on the child that actually wants to be in the limelight. Instead Kate wants to drag all of her children back into the spotlight ( I'm sure the sextuplets would eventually find themselves starring in several episodes of Growing up Gosselin). Who would have ever thought Kate Gosselin is actually more despicable than Kris Jenner when it comes to child exploitation!
This family is in more trouble than anyone could have ever imagined.
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Kate, through her latest antics, made everyone aware of it. She did this by dragging them on national television. Prior to those two television appearances, it was known by some; suspected by others. What she did was confirm it. She's not even close to playing with a full deck. She has shot herself in the foot so many times, but this time she won't have to worry about breaking any toes or feet. With so many holes there, she won't even need shoes.
Hey everyone! Thanks for all of your well wishes and prayers! I wasnt expecting that! I feel blessed!
Well, the news is life changing. Today my daughter was going thru tests. My son went thru his last spring and will get his answers to seriousness in spring of 2014. He has slight dilation of his descending aorta.
My daughter has a Type C dissection of her abdominal aorta :( Very rare in young people . Waiting to hear from surgeon to see what the follow up will be. Not sure if she will require surgery at this time or not. If I understand correctly, most of what they know of how to treat this, is aimed at 40- 70 year old men and NOT teenagers.
Connective Tissue Disorder is another disease that robs people of a long life. If you want to know more about this check out the John Ritter Foundation. His family has put together a great charitable organization based on education and research. The University of Texas is doing some great work right now!
I am not able to see any of the View video...guess us canucks dont count!!..lol..
What I do want to say about the kids not seeing Jon. When they first started doing visitations and jon was in the apartment, I believe I read somewhere that it was crowded at times so he was switching up taking the 6 and then would take the twins. This might have given opportunity for the twins to get a break from the younger ones and more 1-1 time with their dad.
I can see this leading to more separation and a great fish hook for TFW ( who I am now want to call NB .. she is a Narcissistic Bitch who is a nobody-so not important ! NB hits both definitions)
Anyways, the NB figured out that having the girls to herself on weekends gives her lots of time to begin brain washing.
Mady went uhm, because she knew NB wanted her to say NO, to seeing her dad, but knew that she does see her dad. The twins go down with the not a nanny to pick up the 6.
Watch the dreaded drop off video and it is all displayed there for us to see. The twins walked down with the Not a Nanny., and give their dad a BIG hug right before they hop into the BBB to go back up to the house.
The NB is trying to get Mady to do a typical NB play on words. They do see their dad. They might not stay overnight ... perhaps not, I dont know. Jon likely alos sees them when he picks the 6 up from the school bus too.
People are saying about the twins not seeing him fro 9 months. I bet the stayed with mom to help herget the cookbook ready..you know editing and taking pictures. Then the lawsuit came and maybe they felt they had to pick sides, who knows. I tell ya tho, something fishy is up there.
UGH.. TFW is NB!!
I agree with Ex-Nurse that many people will find Mady's outrageous and outspoken comments delightful - much like Whoopie did. That kind of teenage sass has been all over TV shows for quite awhile now and it sells.
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It might sell for an episode or so, but in the long-run, it will never hold viewers. Sass wears thin after awhile. How much of it can you take before you say "enough"?
Chelsea Handler just had her opening monologue and it was making fun of/spoofing TFW and the Today show interview. Looks like they've got her number too.
That wouldn't surprise me (Jon exaggerating that is). I know he's speaking out and all, but it's getting old really fast. He should have kept it to supporting them on the Today show and left the Kate complaining out of it. He's starting to look like just as much of a gripe as she is. I wouldn't blame either of them for wanting to get away from both parents. But who knows? They might have stayed quiet on the subject of Jon because it really is Kate keeping them away and they do it because they know Jon will forgive them some day. Besides, Jon has Liz. In their minds, it could be a case of "Mom needs us. She doesn't have someone like Liz."
Sigh. What a mess.
localyocul said... 48
WOW look how much thinner Kate looks now on the View than she did a year ago. Holy anorexia
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At least the fun balloons look good.
PA Dutch Mom...116
Tucker's Mom...130
You're right. TFW did tell Mady that the kids had multiple birthday parties because they were preemies to which Mady replied, "but we were preemies too." Zing.
When my daughters were growing up, I said no a lot but I always explained the reason why. My mother would tell me no and when I questioned it, it was always, "because I said so." I hated that. Never any explanation as to why I couldn't do what I was requesting. I vowed I wouldn't do that to my kids and I didn't. They bitched when I said no and were angry but they have since both told me they would raise their kids the same way. And my youngest, who has two kids, is doing that. I guess my husband and I did something right. My husband and I are very close with our daughters and when all of us are together, we have a good time.
Watch in Kate's next interview she's going to be saying how the twins and sextuplets are getting along.
Hell she might even pimp the twins into saying it.
I was watching a couple of old videos of the Gosselins and came across these discrepancies.
1. Gosselins on the Oprah show by skype. Oprah has a couple from Texas on who are expecting quads and have 2 other kids at home. The expecting mothers asks Kate if she thinks they will be able to manage without help. Kate says yes, because both parents each have 2 arms and so can each hold 2 babies.
Kate says she was able to go back to work when the 6 were one years old.
2. Kate on the Dr Phil show after it was discovered the octomom had got pregnant with 8 intentionally: Kate is practically in tears as she feels so bad for those kids, and how is the mom going to be able to manage? Kate had 6+2 and couldnt cope ( this was when she willed herself to not have post partum depression)...
Kate says she didnt leave the house for 2 years!!! She would get up in the morning and never sit down all day. Her helpers gave her 15 minutes a day to it outside and have her lunch!
3. Kate has Oprah cameras come to her house to see what it is like in her home. Kate is sure to tell the oprah camera people to make sure they take thier shoes off. Some asks why she has her shoes on in the house. Kate syas it makes her look taller and slimmer.
Kate says: The crew of our show changes FREQUENTLY!!!!! It isnt something that she likes , but.. ( you cant really hear what she says) She then introduces the boom guys who is the ONLY cre guy who has been with them since the beginning. Other wise it CHANGES frequently!
UGH, did she say today, the crew was the same, and they still always see them? ya right.
jbranck1980 said... 54
Chelsea Handler just had her opening monologue and it was making fun of/spoofing TFW and the Today show interview. Looks like they've got her number too.
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Crap! I was flipping between her and Andy Cohen and missed it! What did she say? Love her!
silimom said... 39
As I said, I'm really looking forward to hearing what it was like growing up Gosselin when the twins are in their 20's.
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I think you're right Silimom. We'll have to wait for the books by the G8 to start appearing in about 10 or 15 years from now and read their perspective on all this. If they're all still with us.
This is to me, right now, a family ruined by reality tv and a narcissist gone stark raving mad.
Chelsea Handler just had her opening monologue and it was making fun of/spoofing TFW and the Today show interview. Looks like they've got her number too.
Oops. The Charity Uggs Lady loves Chelsea and asked her for tickets to a show. That isn't going to go over big with Uggs.
That wouldn't surprise me (Jon exaggerating that is). I know he's speaking out and all, but it's getting old really fast.
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Yes, it is. And I have a pretty high tolerance for the bickering back and forth and for him speaking out.
The problem with Jon is that he is great at setting things up perfect for himself but then doesn't know when to quit. I bet he is the type of person who can never walk away from the gambling table.
The PR on this is perfect in terms of Jon coming out on top. Everyone (well, almost) thinks Kate is just a terrible mother and feels sorry for Jon. So leave it, let it simmer, let it ride. The public doesn't need much more help to come to the conclusions they did. We've heard his take on it, loud and clear. He made a great statement last Thursday, now leave it.
I will post the recap tomorrow!
Ha ha! Andy Cohen just roasted Kate! Said basically made some funny remarks a out how awful she was and that he would normally give her his jackhole of the day, but in the spirit of MLK he would give her his Mazel and try to say 3 nice things instead:
1. Her new head looks nice
2. The surgery looks good
3. The extensions are convincing
Crap! I was flipping between her and Andy Cohen and missed it! What did she say? Love her!
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She replayed some of the interview then claimed she had backstage footage of what happened afterward. Heather MacDonald portrayed TFW to perfection...even going so far as to pretend to pull out the twins braces because she couldn't afford the since she wasn't on TV. She said "The only thing I like about being a mother is being a mother on TV." Chelsea also called TFW a bitch at least once (I think twice).
Here's a show idea Kate- it will be a motherhood contest starring you, Dina Lohan, Octomom, and Kris Jenner. The first one to look away from the $ signs and their mirrors wins.
Good idea for a show!
Andy Cohen just gave TFW the Mazel of the day. He said she would normally get the jackhole for her "unsuccessful dubious media tour with her two oldest kids to promote the fact that they're basically (air quotes) OK and they they don't hate her (and then he mouthed "they do") "however in the spirit of MLK Jr. I'm going to say 3 nice things about Kate Gosselin. OK, her new head looks good, the extensions are convincing and also look good....was that 3? I think that was 3" (he then moved on to the jackhole)...everyone was laughing and hooting as he was talking. I love Andy!
Kirby Anspaugh @kirbyanspaugh 11m
Did anyone see the clip of Kate Gosselin and her twin daughters on the today show? 😂😂😂😂😂
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Why, no, duh. (rolling eyes)...she was on the Today show? What happened? Duh...
Anyone else would be mortified having so many people mock them, but TFW is probably delighted with all the attention (much like her daughter, sadly). Look at meeeee!
NJGal51 said... 68
Andy Cohen just gave TFW the Mazel of the day. He said she would normally get the jackhole for her "unsuccessful dubious media tour with her two oldest kids to promote the fact that they're basically (air quotes) OK and they they don't hate her (and then he mouthed "they do") "however in the spirit of MLK Jr. I'm going to say 3 nice things about Kate Gosselin. OK, her new head looks good, the extensions are convincing and also look good....was that 3? I think that was 3" (he then moved on to the jackhole)...everyone was laughing and hooting as he was talking. I love Andy!
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Yes! Great recap NJ. Much better than my bare bones list
Sleepless In Seattle said... 69
Kirby Anspaugh @kirbyanspaugh 11m
Did anyone see the clip of Kate Gosselin and her twin daughters on the today show? ����������
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Why, no, duh. (rolling eyes)...she was on the Today show? What happened? Duh...
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lol!
Dang it! I must have flipped to Andy when Chelsea was talking about her and vice versa grrrrr
Ex Nurse said...(93)
"I just watched the segment, and I disagree with the poster who does not think the girls have "it". Mady seems to be a very pleasant combination of both parents. She has the same sense of comedy and quick thinking that served Jon well on the original show. Even if she was fed the dramatic silence line, she delivered it perfectly, and the audience and hosts loved it."
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I just watched the clip myself and I thought the same thing about Mady. She was spot on and had great timing. I thought she did great.
That being said, I'm still horrified that Kate is still pimping them out for a reality show. The twins are only 13 and need to know a life outside the fishbowl.
If Mady has "it" now, she will still have "it" when she's an adult and able to make those kinds of life altering decisions for herself. Let her excel in school plays and the debate team.
Mady's talent isn't an excuse for Kate to trot her out and show her off like a prize pony.
I just wanted to thank everyone for what a civil and intelligent conversation this has been through some pretty tense events on our screen lately.
I think just this past week alone there have ben over 2,000 comments on this blog. Overall, of those I think I only deleted a dozen or so. That's pretty good.
The other thing is that I really have seen many, many comments I wanted to respond to but there just wasn't time. Please be assured that even if your comment didn't get a reply it was read and appreciated. And welcome to the newbies who have popped in.
HA I saw the Chelsea mock Kate and she did a spot on job of KK.
Just watched the View interview. Sad to say, Mady is a "mini-Kate". "Honestly". "I'm the talkative one" (I've the gift of the gab). Willing to put down her siblings for the sake of a laugh from the audience. She loved the audience reaction. She's a prima donna in the making.
The View continues to be an active participant in the ongoing exploitation of the Gosselin minors. Such a sad situation.
Thanks T. I have a DVR so it's pause....frantically type on iPad....resume....pause....well, you get the idea
Admin I'm another that had a normal childhood. There were 7 of us kids and our parents were first and foremost our parents. We always knew that we were loved even when we got on their last nerve.
I got a quick message from one of my good sources that Kate was violating court orders with this latest stunt and that Jon will do something about it. I actually haven't checked this blog email in a few days, just too much going on, so it was kind of an old message.
I'm trying to get more info on that but I can only speculate. I'm actually wondering if this may even have to do with she's not allowed to take them out of the state without permission or at least informing their dad. Usually when you do that the father must be informed, legal or not. He's also made it clear he will fight any future filming, and I'm wondering if she is cooking up something without informing him which could be an issue. Yes the judge said they had a contract but that was for a pre existing contract. It might be an issue that violates their current orders to sign a NEW contract with informing Jon, legal or not. Just a total guess.
Parental alienators do not are about court orders. They are suggestions to them, not orders, and don't really apply to them.
Re the speculation that TFW may be in some possible talks with a network or producer about creating a show called Growing up Gosselin featuring the twins --- I do believe anything is possible. But I also think the network/producer who took on this show would be taking a huge risk. Cara really seems unhappy with a camera on her. She may simply be painfully shy; or she make actually hate being filmed. Either way, her discomfort makes viewers uncomfortable on her behalf.
Mady might love being filmed, and she may have some smart aleck comments to make. However, that too wears thin fast. This is not a slam on her, but she is average. I cannot imagine a lot of viewers tuning in to see an average 13 year old girl make smart remarks about her younger siblings and life in general.
As to TFW - her three to six fixated fans can't carry a show for her. She'll want to be the center of attention. She interpose at any chance she gets and add her "humorous" comments about her twin daughters. The audience will find her intrusive and annoying as all get out (as they did when it was K+8).
If someone is foolish enough to sink money into producing this show and it finds a slot on some cable network, I predict they'll make only a few episodes, after which it won't be picked up for any further. And maybe that would end up being the silver lining - perhaps Mady at least would come to realize that she isn't going to get another tv show, nor will she get a singing contract, nor will she get jobs on commercials, etc. She is going to just be a regular person who was once on an ill-fated reality tv show.
I'm sorry to hear Jon is making an ass of himself once again. I guess he just cannot help it. He is a nice person, but I think he's often dumb as a box of rocks. He needs to stop giving interviews about the situation and work directly with his attorney to see if he can stop any future filming of his kids, or at least stop his ex from taking them out of the state without his permission. But I have no idea if he'll do so or merely continue to gripe in public about his very real troubles dealing with the shrew he unfortunately married years ago.
I got a quick message from one of my good sources that Kate was violating court orders with this latest stunt and that Jon will do something about it.
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Yesss!
I agree with the posters who said everyone likes a train wreck but people do not like train wrecks when they involve children_________
And yet Honey Boo Boo is in it's 3rd (or is it 4th?) season.
I don't think the general public discriminates.
He should take it up with a judge then, not talk about it on television. He is legally entitled to see his children according to the custody schedule. Go to court if that's not happening, don't complain about it on Inside Edition.______________________________________
AMEN. Again, what has Jon learned from their last rodeo?? Nothing, it appears. For ONCE, can he not be the supportive, level headed parent? These kids need someone they can trust.
The entire situation is just so sad...
Admin, I know it seems as though many here have had less than ideal families and I am one of them. But it wasn't all doom and gloom. I learned to read at a very early age and books became my refuge and my salvation. I read a lot and learned a lot and observed even more and created a fine little life in my own head.
I did have good friends who had good families and I learned from them. I did have lots of outside activities and learned from them. I began to sift the wheat from the chaff at an early age. I developed a set of values that have served me well in life and so I have been able to have a successful marriage and wonderful kids and while I won't speak for them and call it ideal, it has been good.
I suppose I could thank my mother for that, for making me someone who learned early on what I wanted for myself and what not to do, how not to behave to achieve it.
Admin said...
The other thing is that I really have seen many, many comments I wanted to respond to but there just wasn't time. Please be assured that even if your comment didn't get a reply it was read and appreciated. And welcome to the newbies who have popped in.
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There have been so many good comments, I find myself reading through and wanting to comment on all of them! Admin, thanks for keeping up with thousands of messages. I liked when Robert referred to this as "the last remaining Gosselin blog."
Kate is such an ignorant fool. Sassy, disrespectful teens only works on sitcoms. Now you may not agree w/ their religious/political stance, but if you look at the #1 family reality show, Duck Dynasty, you see a family that loves each other. On the few times the kids are on (definitely not every single episode) they are spending time w/ Grandma and Grandpa....learning how to fish, learning how to bake. The teens are respectful to their elders and enjoy healthy relationships w/ their cousins. No one wants to see a 13 year old berating, bullying, emotionally damaging her younger siblings...just like mom. Kate is a mental mess of a bitch for letting Maddy say those things. The public will hate her and how does a 13 year old recover from that?
Calling all Canucks! The View video is now up for your viewing pleasure. (not)
http://www.ctv.ca/TheView/video.aspx
PJ
Gawker said:
Mady and Cara also used silence as a mode of expression, like a pair of twins plotting together to take down the world solely by their non-verbal twinspeak of squints and winks. When asked about dealing with their parents’ divorce, they looked at each other and laughed. When asked about their siblings, Kate interrupted to tell Mady that this was the question she’s been waiting to answer her whole life, and Mady said evenly, “You ruined my dramatic silence.” It was chilling. Upon being presented with another question Mady said, “Cara would you like me to talk or would you like to talk? OK, I’ll talk. I’m the more talkative one.” Her tone was so measured and emotionless, it was as though she was a child of the corn and by “talkative” she meant “stabby.”
SCgal said... 81
I got a quick message from one of my good sources that Kate was violating court orders with this latest stunt and that Jon will do something about it.
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her narcissism and parental alienation knows no bounds. I've never seen anyone as bad as WOS.
The only thing that will stop her is for Jon to gain custody and WOS have supervised visits.
She'll fight Jon until her dying breath.
Also, maybe part of Maddy blames the 6 for the divorce. Life was all hunky dory before them. Mom and Dad loved each other, grandparents, aunts, uncles, cousins were all in the picture. Then came the 6 and all the securities she ever knew were gone. Just a thought.
Unfortunately, as long as someone is willing to give Kate and Jon a platform to bash each other, the back and forth will continue. The View and the Today Show are in it for the ratings. Obviously, with the bad press Kate received on the Today show, they will probably continue to use her to amp up their viewership. Jon, oh Jon . . . he didn't HAVE to do the Couples Therapy. If it was REALLY about needing therapy, he wouldn't do it in front of millions of people, he would do it privately. He can say it was because the "therapy was free" but I don't believe him. I believe he did it for the money and he also likes being in the media. They are both fame whores and their children are becoming fame whores. It is a way of life for them now, and apparently one that none of them are willing to give up easily.
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For ONCE, can he not be the supportive, level headed parent?
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If his hands are tied as far as having his kids filmed, or if he has custodial issues, how does that make him not a supportive, level-headed father?
Mady might love being filmed, and she may have some smart aleck comments to make. However, that too wears thin fast. This is not a slam on her, but she is average. I cannot imagine a lot of viewers tuning in to see an average 13 year old girl make smart remarks about her younger siblings and life in general.
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Exactly. I think that the networks would look at the longevity of this. Oh, it might draw some viewers for a brief time, but what networks wants to invest money when they can take a look at how Kate's rantings dropped when it was just her and the eight.
Agree that Jon has said all that needs to be said. He's ahead of the game. This tit for tat gets annoying, and he needs to back off with the interviews. If she's violating a court order, then he needs to pursue it in the courts and not depend on media fodder to do battle with TFW.
She absolutely did violate orders because child custody orders in PA all have a standard addendum of general rules. I don't have mine in front of me but they include things like the child shall have reasonable telephone contact with the other parent, the parent shall not speak negatively about the other in the child's presence, etc.
I can't find it online but here is one from Indiana. I'm sure most states have something similar:
http://www.in.gov/judiciary/rules/parenting/
SECTION I. GENERAL RULES APPLICABLE TO PARENTING TIME
A. COMMUNICATIONS
1. Between Parents. Parents shall at all times keep each other advised of their home and work addresses, telephone numbers and email addresses. Notice of any change in this information shall be given to the other parent in writing. All communications concerning a child shall be conducted between the parents. Any communication shall occur at reasonable times and places unless circumstances require otherwise. A child shall not be used to exchange documents or financial information between parents.
2. With A Child Generally. A child and a parent shall be entitled to private communications without interference from the other parent. A child shall never be used by one parent to spy or report on the other. Each parent shall encourage the child to respect and love the other parent. Parents shall at all times avoid speaking negatively about each other in or near the presence of the child, and they shall firmly discourage such conduct by relatives or friends.
3. With A Child By Telephone. Both parents shall have reasonable phone access to their child. Telephone communication with the child by either parent to the residence where the child is located shall be conducted at reasonable hours, shall be of reasonable duration, and at reasonable intervals, without interference from the other parent.
I agree Jon needs to man up, quit whining, and do something. Go back for shared legal custody with evidence of her harmful decisions. Pay child support, and enforce the custody order. Sure teens can decide if they can't come due to plans or whatever but they are very young still. In this kind of alienation situation he needs to see them as often as possible and he needs to get them into therapy with him. Come on Jon!!
What network would possible be talking with her? The big three for reality shows are TLC, E!, an Bravo. TLC won't have anything to do with her, and the major hosts from the other two networks just bashed her.
If there really was a show, Kate would not be trying to sell it, but announce and promote it.
Without knowing what Jon has/has not done legally, telling him to "man up" is rather insulting and disrespectful.
Katykat said... 89
Also, maybe part of Maddy blames the 6 for the divorce.
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But Mady said that the divorce didn't affect her. With Kate coaching her what to say, who knows what to believe?
Marcia @mcecilia823 1m
@Sassccha @Kateplusmy8 was great on the view she was promoting a cook book. It's a great book too!
Really? You could have fooled everyone. I wonder how many books she sold as a result of that promo!
Sheeple, you gotta love 'em.
Paula said... 95
If there really was a show, Kate would not be trying to sell it, but announce and promote it.
Without knowing what Jon has/has not done legally, telling him to "man up" is rather insulting and disrespectful.
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Sorry if I'm not respectful to someone who is allowing his ex to keep his 13 year olds from him and seemingly letting her have the kids two Christmases in a row, and letting on that he sees the twins regularly when it turns out it's a quick hug (if that) when bringing the other ones home. He's telling all to the media, I'm sure if he had done more he would be saying so to Inside Edition.
J&K divorced when Mady was 9 and yet she knew it was harder on Kate than on her. What does that say? How much did Kate tell those kids? It's too bad Kate didn't tell the kids that she initiated the break up of the relationship, withheld affection from their father, carried on with traveling around the country with a married man long after her husband asked her to stop, and refused to attend counseling sessions. If the divorce was so hard on Kate she can only blame herself. How dare she look to her children for pity.
"Man Up" is a derogatory term. You have no idea what he has/has not done behind the scenes to keep Kate "in check". Unless you have some information that the rest of us do not. Yes, he's telling it to the media because that's the only way to fight Kate at this point. Nothing else has worked. What's the saying.."...unless you have walked in my shoes.."?
Sorry if I'm not respectful to someone who is allowing his ex to keep his 13 year olds from him and seemingly letting her have the kids two Christmases in a row, and letting on that he sees the twins regularly when it turns out it's a quick hug (if that) when bringing the other ones home. He's telling all to the media, I'm sure if he had done more he would be saying so to Inside Edition.
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Unfortunately, I agree with you on this. They all need therapy, and not on TV.
It is pretty clear to anyone who has been a child of divorce that not only the divorce but the tension in the household before and after affects the child. Mady was, as sure as I breathe, coached by Kate to say she doesn't remember much from that time and the divorce did not affect her. On what planet does a 9 yr. old not know what is going on between mom and dad? Kate has launched a full scale assault to prove, to the handful that buy into it, that her children have NO issues because she is their sounding board and best parent ever on the planet.
ITA she has violated Jon's rights and does not give a damn. She just wants him to keep spending money on attorney fees. Horrible.
The recap is up. I think of all the recaps I've ever done, I had the most fun with this one. Enjoy!
localyocul said... 98
Sorry if I'm not respectful to someone who is allowing his ex to keep his 13 year olds from him and seemingly letting her have the kids two Christmases in a row, ....
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Just curious, how do you know that Kate had the kids for 2 Christmases in a row?
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