Filming locations include Michaels and a casual cafe. Thank you to the locals for keeping a keen eye out.
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Saturday, May 24, 2014
TLC filming for update special
After a long period of no new news about the promised "update special" from TLC, a few locals have spotted Kate and the crew filming around PA this week. Reactions from locals have been universally negative.
Filming locations include Michaels and a casual cafe. Thank you to the locals for keeping a keen eye out.
Filming locations include Michaels and a casual cafe. Thank you to the locals for keeping a keen eye out.
945 sediments (sic) from readers:
«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 400 of 945 Newer› Newest»I wonder why people come here to pick fights. 196
I think some people think their calling in life is to convince others of the wrongheadedness of their opinions and assert their own superiority.
This is different from expressing an opinion or voicing a thought or engaging in a meaningful debate. The former frames it as a power struggle that they intend to win.
Kate Coyne is dean of this prestigious institution. 1
And Milo and zheeple are on the dean's list.
This is different from expressing an opinion or voicing a thought or engaging in a meaningful debate. The former frames it as a power struggle that they intend to win.
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Yes.
Trolling is an addiction too. This strange bone to pick anonymous has is an addiction. It gets very personal for them, though I don't publish the comments, they do tend to pop on every day and pick everyone apart especially me.
Anonymous just told me to enjoy my Memorial Day. Enjoy? I don't consider a holiday of remembrance something to enjoy. It's a somber day. Says a lot about you that you would say that. Now I see where your priorities lie. Now go eat a hotdog for those who died for you... See how it feels to see every word you say attacked? It's silliness, anonymous. Yet this is what you do. I don't care if you want to enjoy today even if I disagree but why would I pick pick pick like that? What joy does it bring me? None. Inevitably you'll say we do the same to Kate and once again I remind you she is a public figure and millions of people do the same to hundreds of public figures all the time. However it's inappropriate to do the same to private people. Your option for public figures who irk you is to say something. Your option for private people who get under your skin however is to leave their turf.
I don't consider a holiday of remembrance something to enjoy. It's a somber day. 3
Absolutely. It's a day to remember those in the military over many generations and say thank you.
Kate needs to move on and be over already....... .Naughty But Nice Rob @NaughtyNiceRob 7h
Gossie Awards Winner “Celeb We Hate To Love” – Bethenny, Juan Pablo, Lindsay Lohan, Kate Gosselin? http://wp.me/p3gPyb-e2a
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 180
Showing how people with disabilities lead normal lives is the exact opposite of a freak show.
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You've bought into the propaganda.
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I agree with both of you.
To the first notion, yes, it is educational to see that little people are just like everyone else in many ways, and they have special challenges that most people never knew about (health, orthopedically).
10 years later though?
Really?
To Admin's point, which trumps all else, this is entertainment, not a scholarly endeavor.
It's voyeuristic and titillating more than edifying.
It's "must see tv" on premium cable, not PBS.
If Little People wish to live in a glass house, have a reality tv show, and make big bucks and enjoy perks that help mitigate the loss of privacy, then so be it.
When they offer up their adopted children, who have many challenges beyond being little, then I take issue.
I can't imagine a physician or psychiatrist or psychologist on Earth that would recommend cameras in a newly adopted child's home (from foreign countries and less than optimal circumstances), in order to facilitate integration and adaptation.
It's the opposite.
It's abusive, and frankly, I wonder wtf was going through the heads of the PTB who approved this adoption, with cameras in tow, knowing the cameras would be following these kids for years to come, and they would be forfeiting their privacy.
Isn't their situation challenging enough?
I have a question for our resident troll. What, pray tell, do you learn by watching Honey Boo Boo? (And I know you do) Makeup tips? How to accessorize camouflage? How many flies can sit on a fork-lift toe? How to turn cheese-balls into a breakfast food?
Seriously, what worthy educational enrichment do you achieve? And the same goes for K&8? What did you learn?
PJ
Math Girl said... 184
Tucker's Mom said... 158
At this point, Bill and Jen are on the resort/zoo/adventure park/cupcake-making merry go round.
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Don't forget vow renewal. Aren't they scheduled for that?
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Wouldn't that take the cake!
Perfect set up for it.
Just adopted 2 kids.
Jen bravely fought through her cancer treatment (I really, really admire her bravery, btw, and wish her recovery and cure)
These things seem to have brought the two of them closer and I wouldn't be surprised at all if a vow renewal was pitched to them.
Don't forget vow renewal. Aren't they scheduled for that?
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They've already done it:
http://www.people.com/article/little-couple-jennifer-arnold-bill-klein-renew-vows
"The couple's vow renewal will be featured in the season finale on June 17. "
Kate is a twit said... 9
Don't forget vow renewal. Aren't they scheduled for that?
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They've already done it:
http://www.people.com/article/little-couple-jennifer-arnold-bill-klein-renew-vows
"The couple's vow renewal will be featured in the season finale on June 17. "
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I'm shocked, shocked!
Well, let's just hope that this isn't a fake "mommy and daddy will be together forever" renewal and that Bill isn't really living over the garage...
Don't forget vow renewal. Aren't they scheduled for that?
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They've already done it: 9
TLC definitely has a formula. They just mix up the chronology. What next after Disney?
Who cares.
I do wish Jen good health. At the same time I wish privacy for those children.
Now that Kate knows the difference between Australia and Austria, I'm surprised that TLC didn't send the family to the latter for the update (snark).
When adopting children during pre-adoption there is a homestay interview with a social worker. Did Jen and Bill inform the social worker that the adopted children lives would be filmed? And post-adoption depending on the country the child was adopted from there are a minimum of six months of reports some in person others via forms filled out by the adoptive parents. Did the parents explain at this point the children's lives were being filmed? And if they didn't disclose this important point, what are the legal issues Jen and Bill could be facing.
As an adoptive parent of children from Russia, I know firsthand that the adoptive parents must toe the legal line during pre- and post-adoption. Failure to disclose important facts could result in the children being returned to their home country and the adoption being terminated.
Kate is a twit said... 9
Don't forget vow renewal. Aren't they scheduled for that?
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They've already done it:
http://www.people.com/article/little-couple-jennifer-arnold-bill-klein-renew-vows
"The couple's vow renewal will be featured in the season finale on June 17. "
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With one exception (Episode 3: Gym, Spa, Shop), I've never watched Little Couple so I looked up TLC's episode guide and surprise, surprise...Jon and Kate, Bill and Jen...there is no difference.
The Little Couple Episode Guide (snipped here and there by me)
SEASON 1
Episode 1: Bill Moves to Houston
Episode 2: Jen's Birthday
Flowers and jewelry just aren't enough for her first birthday as Mrs. Bill Klein, so he whisks Jen out for a romantic dinner after taking her to pick up a specially modified new car.
Episode 3: Gym, Spa, Shop 'Til Bill Drops
As Bill sweats up a storm at the gym, Jen enjoys a girls' day of pampering at the spa.
Episode 4: Work & Play in Galveston
when Jen has to lead a workshop on medical simulation in Galveston, TX, Bill tags along, secretly hoping to get her mind off work with a surprise.
Episode 5: House Hunting
The Little Couple decides to take the plunge and begin the process of house hunting. Only one problem, Jen wants something closer to work and the city, while Bill's heart is set on living in a sprawling home in the 'burbs. Can they reach a compromise?
Episode 6: One Year Anniversary
Can Jen and Bill put aside work and financial tensions long enough to enjoy the day?
Episode 7: Leavin' on a Jet Plane
Episode 8:While the Cat's Away
Bill's having a guys weekend in Vegas for his brother's bachelor party, leaving Jen just a little nervous. She calls and texts him repeatedly until he finally stops answering, sending her into a panic.
Episode 9: Bill's
Bill sets aside his own busy work schedule to complete Jen's wish list of home improvements.
Episode 10: Hawaii Here We Come Part 1
Jen and Bill cannot wait to leave the stresses of work behind them and head off on their first Hawaiian vacation together
Episode 11: Hawaii Here We Come Part 2
With their vacation days in Hawaii numbered, Jen has them booked solid with all that Hawaii has to offer
Episode 12: The Big Bang Theory
Jen enrolls in a self-defense class and Jen tries a few of her new moves on Bill at home.
Episode 13: Wedding Bells Are Ringing
The Little Couple jets off to Disney World for Bill's younger brother Joey's nuptials--but it's anything but a vacation! When Jen gets a monster migraine the day of the wedding Bill may have to face his best man duties alone.
Episode 14: Maybe a Baby?
Jen and Bill are anxious to start a family but they have concerns about Jen's safety during pregnancy.
TLC doesn't even have to use their imagination. Keep using the same formula, that's all there is to it. Whoever is in charge now figured out that if it worked for Eileen O'Neil, it will work for them. It's an expoitation factory and it's unbelievable that audiences have been dumbed down to this extent.
If Little People wish to live in a glass house, have a reality tv show, and make big bucks and enjoy perks that help mitigate the loss of privacy, then so be it.
When they offer up their adopted children, who have many challenges beyond being little, then I take issue.
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Exactly. I don't care of Jen and Bill want to have their show until their heart's content and I believe they have been on awhile now. I only take issue when they bring children into the mix. Very young children who are both adopted and have special needs. That's when you cross the line IMO between education and exploitation. The children certainly do not have to risk their emotional health so some suburban housewife can learn more about obscure medical issues like fluid on the brain and the like.
As far as the education goes, it's still a real stretch to try to claim Little Couple is all that educational. Once in a blue moon they'll mention various medical issues they have. A quick read of Wikipedia could tell you the same, faster and better. I have seen many episodes where nothing is said about any little people issues at all. What was educational about those episodes?
For anyone left who still is not aware of little people and their medical needs and preferences, they're not going to be the kind of people watching TLC in the first place. You've reached a point where you've reached everyone you can with this medium. It's exhausted itself. It's over. Now it's just about money. To say it's anything else is to ignore reality.
I have a question for our resident troll. What, pray tell, do you learn by watching Honey Boo Boo? (And I know you do) Makeup tips? How to accessorize camouflage? How many flies can sit on a fork-lift toe? How to turn cheese-balls into a breakfast food?
PJ
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Bwa haha! Excellent points.
Rhymes with Witch said... 10
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But has she learned the difference between North & South Korea? I remember she also seemed to stumble a bit on the significance of July 4th, when Jon asked (testing her) whom was America gaining independence from.
Episode 8:While the Cat's Away
Bill's having a guys weekend in Vegas for his brother's bachelor party, leaving Jen just a little nervous. She calls and texts him repeatedly until he finally stops answering, sending her into a panic.
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Lol. These episode descriptions are a hoot. What was educational about this one, pray tell? How to not be a harpy wife?
Amy2 (#13), thank you for that post about the continuing evaluation
of family situations once children have been adopted from other
countries. It's always cool when people contribute information from
their unique perspectives. We can learn a lot from each other!
But has she learned the difference between North & South Korea? 17
Excellent question Formerly! I doubt that she cares anymore, if she ever did.
I remember a little people family called the Fooses (iirc) who adopted a daughter from Russia with dwarfism and autism.They had two boys, as well, both short stature. They just did one show I think.It was several years ago.Anyone recall it?
Lol. These episode descriptions are a hoot. What was educational about this one, pray tell? How to not be a harpy wife?
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Think they brought Kate in as a consultant?
I remember a little people family called the Fooses (iirc) who adopted a daughter from Russia with dwarfism and autism.They had two boys, as well, both short stature. They just did one show I think.It was several years ago.Anyone recall it?
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YES. Very nice family. Reminded me a lot of the Little People Big World family. They had some rough and tumble boys. Mom was a lot like Amy, very in control and her way or the highway. I liked them a lot. Now that I buy as educational. It was a peek into how a family with special needs was living, you learned a lot about them and how they get buy (very well) and you learned a lot about dwarfism in general. One special, maybe two, and done. Kids can go back to obscurity and the public benefits. Win win.
Nothing says a sincere vow renewal like one that's a complete surprise to one of the spouses.
Sigh.
WTF?
They've been married 6 years and it's time to renew?
What ever happened to landmark anniversaries, like the 25th.
*That's* something to celebrate.
I'd be horrified if I showed up somewhere to see all of our friend and family waiting for me to walk down the isle again.
So, so, sooooooo contrived for ratings.
And of course, so very predictable.
Jen and Bill have officially crossed over.
Cue the fauxermony, cute kids looking on cluelessly, picking their noses, not caching the memory or even having an inkling about what Mommy and Daddy are doing even means.
But, it'll soar in the ratings.
Blech.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 18
Episode 8:While the Cat's Away
Bill's having a guys weekend in Vegas for his brother's bachelor party, leaving Jen just a little nervous. She calls and texts him repeatedly until he finally stops answering, sending her into a panic.
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Lol. These episode descriptions are a hoot. What was educational about this one, pray tell? How to not be a harpy wife?
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I'm sorry, but it's really sad if you can't trust your husband in Vegas with buddies.
Sorry.
What's Bill going to do? Go to a titty bar?
Yawn.
Next.
Seriously, chicks aren't going to be all over him unless he's paying.
That said, I'm betting the tension was amped up by the producers to create a more watchable story arc.
FlimsyFlamsy said... 19
Amy2 (#13), thank you for that post about the continuing evaluation
of family situations once children have been adopted from other
countries. It's always cool when people contribute information from
their unique perspectives. We can learn a lot from each other!
May 26, 2014 at 4:11 PM
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Yes, thank you for sharing.
I imagine that Jen being a doctor, and the couple being financially very secure, that the filming could be glossed over and only viewed as educating the public.
I wonder if those adoption agencies have any idea of American culture and reality tv...you know, like, the Gosselins and their salacious saga.
How many flies can sit on a fork-lift toe? How to turn cheese-balls into a breakfast food?
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I learned how many flies it takes to consume a cheese ball.
They just did one show I think.It was several years ago.Anyone recall it?
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A litte research (pardon the pun) and it turns out Figure 8 Productions describe(d) these kind of programs as "Advanced Medical Productions".
Lo and behold the Fooses started their own blog as a result of this special, but it has only one entry and that was July, 2008:
"Dwarf Family Life - Little People, Real World – no camera edits, no scene setups, no reality scripting"
No reality scripting, no editing, no scene setups?! Well shit no wonder they didn't stick around for a series. They had ethics.
Trolling is an addiction too. This strange bone to pick anonymous has is an addiction. It gets very personal for them, though I don't publish the comments, they do tend to pop on every day and pick everyone apart especially me.
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Admin, awhile back you went fishing for a certain troll and caught her in the net. Is this the same troll, the one who particularly enjoyed picking apart everything you said?
I know that there are a few sheeple out there who enjoy doing this, as well as one hater who flipped back and forth from this blog to other blogs, then to twitter, then back here again, then back to twitter bashing this blog, ad nauseam.
Tucker's Mom said... 25
I'm sorry, but it's really sad if you can't trust your husband in Vegas with buddies.
Sorry.
What's Bill going to do? Go to a titty bar?
Yawn.
Next.
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But think of the fun he'd have motor-boating their boobies. He's just the right height.
No, sheeple/troll. I'm not making fun of little people. I'm stating a fact. Little people are short.
The Arnolds are the TLC darlings (meaning, moneymakers) for now. But the tide will turn, it always does. This time it would take one set of parents who were turned down for foreign adoption to get wind of the Arnolds adopting and exploiting their children on reality TV. Then all heck will break loose. The by product of this would be people who are trying to adopt for the right reasons (something other than reality TV) having their adoptions affected (placed on hold, denied, country stopping adoptions, etc.)
The Arnolds need to get the stars (money) out of their eyes, and get these children off TV. Jen and Bill can film to their hearts desire. Go for it, exposure your luxury life for all to see. Just leave the children out of it.
Amy and Matt Roloff also had a renewal of vows on their 25th and now they are separated. Although to be fair, who didn't see that coming?
But think of the fun he'd have motor-boating their boobies. He's just the right height.
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Oh man, Cherry Garcia up the nose!
I went to Disney Land in the late 1950's and do not remember a thing about it. I was probably between 5 and 6 yrs. old. Have always believed my parents went for themselves because they were so young. It is quite boring how TLC uses the same formula with all their "family shows." Travel with the kids, no matter what the number. This new Gosselin special is sure to be awe inspiring and not in a good way.
Oh no. They're doing a vow renewal too ?? ....hurl
AuntieAnn said... 30
Little people are short.
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So THAT"S the medical stuff they learn watching that show. Who knew? Wow, and here I've been foolishly using Google and Wikipedia.
PJ
I was 6 or 7 the first time I went to Disney World and remember pieces and parts.
Memories from that age aren't really imprinted and they don't quite stay with you.
I also don't get the education part of The Little Couple. There are different types of dwarfism and they have some similar problems but also some very different problems. Like normal height people, it's also what you inherit. Brothers could have separate problems. I know a family of little people. They are really not that different from anyone else.
So THAT"S the medical stuff they learn watching that show. Who knew? Wow, and here I've been foolishly using Google and Wikipedia.
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Yep. We didn't know dwarfs were of small stature until TLC learned us. Now we is smart.
Fleecing The Sheeple said... 29
Admin, awhile back you went fishing for a certain troll and caught her in the net. Is this the same troll, the one who particularly enjoyed picking apart everything you said?
I know that there are a few sheeple out there who enjoy doing this, as well as one hater who flipped back and forth from this blog to other blogs, then to twitter, then back here again, then back to twitter bashing this blog, ad nauseam.
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The relentless tenacity of this troll sounds like the detective. It bothers her to the brink of insanity that they can't shut down or affect this blog. Just delete and ignore Admin. So pathetic, Kate wants nothing to do with any of these people but they've dedicated their lives to fighting for her.
Auntie said, "No, sheeple/troll. I'm not making fun of little people. I'm stating a fact. Little people are short."
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Why are they called "little people?" Why not call them "short people?" No, sheeple, I am not making fun of little/short people.
Why are they called "little people?" Why not call them "short people?" No, sheeple, I am not making fun of little/short people.
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If you watched all the little people shows you would be eduacamated about this.
Just kidding, no you wouldn't. They rarely talk about this stuff or if they do they don't really explain it in any depth, but it's very edumacational don't you know.
But Google knows!!! http://www.washington.edu/doit/Faculty/articles?442
So pathetic, Kate wants nothing to do with any of these people but they've dedicated their lives to fighting for her.
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That cuts both ways. Some have dedicated their lives to fighting against her. There are extreme fans and extreme haters.
Yup, hukked on TLC werked for mee. Now im smrt!
PJ
So pathetic, Kate wants nothing to do with any of these people but they've dedicated their lives to fighting for her.
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That cuts both ways. Some have dedicated their lives to fighting against her. There are extreme fans and extreme haters.
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Yes that's right. No one said otherwise. In fact it's been pointed out here time and time again that there are real extreme folks on either side. But with a few exceptions the extreme haters don't usually hang out here, for whatever reason. Some of the extreme sheeple do though, and it's constant, every single day. I can't go more than a day without this person or persons popping up in the anonymous comments ranting and raving even though I rarely respond to it. You don't see the unpublished comments. I really don't care how extreme one wants to be or what side they want to be on. All I ask is that they not then derail someone else's blog while doing so. It's basic common courtesy.
But Google knows!!! http://www.washington.edu/doit/Faculty/articles?442
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"Unless physical stature is of relevance in a conversation, simply using a person's name is appropriate." (http://www.washington.edu)
This throws a monkey wrench into TLC's program titles. What will they call them now? "The Couple","People, Big World", World's Man? Oh, dear.
This throws a monkey wrench into TLC's program titles. What will they call them now? "The Couple","People, Big World", World's Man? Oh, dear.
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People, Big World lol.
They also have that Gypsy wedding thing. Which is an entirely inappropriate and outdated term for the Romani people. All that does is perpetuate that word. I've seen sheeple get very upset about proper terminology, yet Kate's TLC uses incredibly offense terminology themselves in the TITLE of that show. So I get it, it's not okay here but is okay if TLC does it. Check.
I've seen sheeple get very upset about proper terminology, yet Kate's TLC uses incredibly offense terminology themselves in the TITLE of that show. So I get it, it's not okay here but is okay if TLC does it. Check.
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ha. Don't ya love it when they come here and prove our point. It must be so frustrating for them. I can hear them back at the sheeple bar "damn that 15min admin. pass me the clover kibbles"
ha. Don't ya love it when they come here and prove our point. It must be so frustrating for them. I can hear them back at the sheeple bar "damn that 15min admin. pass me the clover kibbles"
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The sheeple bar? Would that be the Black Sheep pub in Philadelphia?
The sheeple bar? Would that be the Black Sheep pub in Philadelphia?
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No. It's the bar over on the eweniversity campus... Wooley's Tavern. They flock to the place.
1of 2 Re: 'The Little Couple - Let's begin w/ a few caveats & a few buts:
1. I am against exploiting your children on reality TV period. BUT to be fair they had no children when the show started and filmed 96 out of 122 episodes with zero children.
2. I actually find the show 'The Little Couple' a bit boring and have only seen a handful of episodes when randomly channel surfing. BUT purposely watched a few (for professional and personal reasons) when Jen was diagnosed w/choriocarcinoma and the adoption from India
3. They appear to be following the usual reality TV plot lines and set ups, so there are some similarities between them and 'J & K plus 8', BUT there's also some huge differences:
-Their website offers helps rather than begging others for help. Very professional and details their services from personal appearances, to branding & marketing expertise, complete with a client list and videos of past engagements. Also, they admit that Julie May Carson is their representative. http://www.thelittlecouple.com
-Sure they want to 'educate' others, but they also also admit that it's all about the $ too.
-They love their parents and their nanny, and freely give them the love & respect that they have earned.
-Like Kate, they also love their crew and their fans, but unlike TFW, they don't consider them family, nor do they re-watch old episodes. In fact, anything personal that is done on camera, is done a second time without any cameras present.
-Unlike J&K, the little couple appear (dare I hope?) to actually like & love (?) each other.
http://www.channelguidemagblog.com/index.php/2013/09/23/the-little-couple-tlc-bill-klein/
Channel Guide Magazine: Was there ever a time when you and Jen doubted your decision to have the cameras following you...
Bill Klein: Our show started of as an education on a type of disability and a type of lifestyle...Then it just morphed into our pursuit of having a family, and all of a sudden it turned into something that touched on people’s lives more directly...
CGM: How much help have your own parents been...
BK: Jen was very fortunate to have the parents that she had and I was very fortunate to have the parents that I have... it was our parents that deserve all the credit...And I can only hope that we’re able to do as good a job with our kids as they were able to do getting us through our tough times.
CGM: Talk about the bane of every new parent’s existence — the day you have to go back to work.
BK: But what we’ve done is — we hired a nanny who has experience as a child life specialist and is formally educated in that, and she also has a lot of experience working with children who have orthopedic disabilities... Normally she’s here for 8 hours a day, five days a week. And I work both at the shop and at home — so, while it sounds like I’m leaving for the day, really I can hear him for most of the day from my office downstairs... We do have careers and we have a lifestyle that requires for us to continue with our careers. And from a realistic perspective, our bodies will not want us to continue the daily grind into our sixties. We will want to — and will probably need to — retire before then. But we can’t do single-income until we’re 52 and then retire. We need to do this during what my old CEO used to call ’the earning years’ and GRIND OUT AS MUCH AS WE CAN WHILE WE HAVE THE TIME TO.
CGM: Were you as astounded as viewers were at how instantly Will took to you and Jen? Tell us about taking a few weeks away from the cameras afterward to bond as a family
BK: I took it very seriously and Jen took it very seriously and the cameras became something we don’t even notice....WE WANTED TO REINFORCE THATE THE CAMERAMAN IS NOT UNCLE CAMERA MAN AND OUR FIELD PRODUCER IS NOT AUNT FIELD PRODUCER, so we wanted to separate that... that was very important. So the very, very much-welcomed vacation from cameras was also very much a requirement on everybody’s part
2of 2 Re: 'The Little Couple
http://www.glamour.com/entertainment/blogs/obsessed/2013/10/exclusive-behind-the-scenes-wi.html
"Glamour: Do you ever go back and watch old episodes?
Dr. Jennifer Arnold: That’s funny, I don’t think either of us have gone back and watched them, unless TLC is running a marathon.
Glamour: You have a gorgeous home, but I have to assume fans have taken it upon themselves to do drive-bys and pay you an unannounced visit!
Dr. Jennifer Arnold: Everyone has been so nice, but when someone knocks on your door, you do get a little nervous... we are at home that is obviously our private time. But seriously, everyone that has come to our door has been very well-intended. I do get it though because people watch us and feel like they know us!
Glamour: How long will you keep doing the series?
Bill: If it became too cumbersome, we’d probably leave it behind, but we’ve gotten good at managing careers and our personal lives and still be able to capture moments that are TV-worthy without it interfering. We still work two full-time jobs and can still cook dinner every night for our son and spend quality time with each other...so right now it's not too bad..we’ll see how having two kids will be. We’re one of the fortunate few that has been able to keep it the way it was before.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/26/little-couple-jen-and-bill_n_1031760.html
We celebrate special occasions twice
Jen: We try to remind each other that dinners out with the cameras don't really count and that we still need to have a separate celebratory dinner for us, for birthdays and anniversaries. Even though we celebrate on camera, we do something separate as well.
There's a simple system in place for housework
Jen: We divide and conquer based on who's the most tired.
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Thank you so much for posting this.
I "get"their strategy, to negotiate raising children publicly, on film, for a tv show.
I don't agree with it, however.
The thing is, still, this is a couple using their children for a financial means to an end, which for the LC, is retiring early (understandably due to health challenges).
The LC, just like Kate, sees a future built on offering up her family and forfeiting their privacy.
My problem is the same- the children can NOT give consent.
They are being used as a means to an end.
Faking one celebration for the cameras and doing a 'private" celebration off camera does nothing to mitigate my feelings.
In fact, it makes it sound even more like the LC's children are working.
One for the cameras (working) and one for the kid, privately (not working).
Their kids and the G kids will understand, one day, that their parents put them to work as minors, without their consent.
Of course, I still ask, "Gee, what do all those other people with large families and special physical challenges do? How do they manage?"
Oh, that's right, they live a mediocre life.
Also, like Kate, the LC have amassed a lifestyle that will be very difficult to maintain after the cameras go away, so they are trying to strike while the iron is hot.
Unfortunately, both the LC and Kate's best bet is to include the kiddies.
Bill's sentiment that if it gets too "cumbersome", they'll change tack.
WTF does that even mean????????????
I think he's another "code-speaker".
Could be a false alarm, but Bullyville, Cheaterville and many of the defamatory websites BV opened have been taken down. There is talk that a large scale investigation is underway. As always, take with the proverbial grain of salt. But it does seem like the real deal.
OT but not really:
Dean McDermott's son confirmed what most already assumed: Tori Spelling's reality show is fake.
On May 13, Dean's 15-year-old son, Jack, declared on Twitter that the show was being manipulated by producers to make his father look bad.
"'Reality' show my ass!" Jack wrote. "It's all set up plz don't buy into it. My father is not what the show makes him to be, he is a good man."
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All reality shows are a bunch of bull, IMO.
Could be a false alarm, but Bullyville, Cheaterville and many of the defamatory websites BV opened have been taken down. There is talk that a large scale investigation is underway. As always, take with the proverbial grain of salt. But it does seem like the real deal.
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Both of those sites are still there.
Their kids and the G kids will understand, one day, that their parents put them to work as minors, without their consent.
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But will it really matter to them? She'll convince them that it was for their own good. They lived the lifestyle they did because of it...otherwise, they would have been in a tiny house, living among the mediocre. Who knows if they will believe her or not. They may understand that they were filmed without their consent, but she will somehow find a way to justify what they got from it.
BK: I took it very seriously and Jen took it very seriously and the cameras became something we don’t even notice....WE WANTED TO REINFORCE THATE THE CAMERAMAN IS NOT UNCLE CAMERA MAN AND OUR FIELD PRODUCER IS NOT AUNT FIELD PRODUCER, so we wanted to separate that... that was very important. So the very, very much-welcomed vacation from cameras was also very much a requirement on everybody’s part
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They have some good boundaries and that's good. When children are involved, it's rarely a good idea to encourage an "uncle camera man" type relationship, for a variety of reasons. Those include that you don't really know who that person is, that that person is there to do a serious job and not babysit your kid, and that that person is working a job not part of your family and could very well be replaced with someone else just like that and where does that leave your child emotionally if they have become their "uncle"?
I had no problem with the hundred odd episodes they made before they had kids. Produce away. I only take issue once they involved the kids.
I think they're going to be one of those couples who does everything they can to make reality T.V. a good experience for their children. I still don't think it is enough to protect their children from all the negatives of being on reality T.V. The only sure way is to remove them from the situation. The best intentions does not mean you are guaranteed to avoid the harm. Why risk it? They seem to be saying they are desperate to make as much money as they can now so they can be comfortable in retirement. I don't find that excuse good enough reason to exploit your children, especially when they both have successful careers outside of reality T.V. If they must hustle and work, there are plenty of other things they could do that would bring in good money. They are both talented and capable of many things.
People.com has a short clip from the TLC special. It's going to air on June 25.
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20820516,00.html
It looks like they DID film on spring break, if you believe what's said in the video. Kate is still being the bitch--riveting drama!!
That hair is ridiculous. That must have been three hours in the makeup chair for all that getup. She looks like a fool.
She must be in hog heaven.
People says it's TWO HOURS? That's a long dang time to watch 13 and 10 year olds.....
I just watched the clip. She's in a total power struggle with Mady and is clueless how to handle her sass. I find it incredibly inappropriate to film and show this. How embarrassing for that poor child.
lil birdie said... 54
Could be a false alarm, but Bullyville, Cheaterville and many of the defamatory websites BV opened have been taken down. There is talk that a large scale investigation is underway. As always, take with the proverbial grain of salt. But it does seem like the real deal.
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They're up now....
They may understand that they were filmed without their consent, but she will somehow find a way to justify what they got from it.
May 27, 2014 at 6:07 AM
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She will never waiver in this and probably will never acknowledge the major negatives she brought on her entire family.
Not all the kids will be angry and have problems with Kate.
Kate is making sure she has golden children that will be by her side.
People.com has a short clip from the TLC special. It's going to air on June 25.
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20820516,00.html
It looks like they DID film on spring break, if you believe what's said in the video. Kate is still being the bitch--riveting drama!!
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Nasty, nasty, cruel woman. And you can see the joy in her eyes when she's in her dictator role. How about disciplining with love, Kate?
Originally, they said it was to be a ONE hour special, now it's morphed into 2 hours. The card at the end of the video says "two hour premiere. I hope that doesn't mean they plan on airing more shows.
So, in that clip, her reason for getting the twins Ipads and Iphones, is so that she can use them as leverage to get them to behave.
Yup, Kate, bribery seems to be your forte to get the kids to do what you want.
Kate still thinks she is cute I see. I thought the update was about the sextuplets..looks like it will be the Kate show like always.
People.com has a short clip from the TLC special. It's going to air on June 25.
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20820516,00.html
It looks like they DID film on spring break, if you believe what's said in the video. Kate is still being the bitch--riveting drama!!
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Come on, sheeple!!
If you can't recognize the dissonance between Kate's rainbows and unicorn farts Tweeting, and THIS, I don't know what else could possibly open your eyes.
What a freaking bitch, and can I say... DRAMA QUEEN!
My heart breaks for Mady. She is a child who is crying out for a different kind of structure. Something other than an iron fist battle of the wills, who can hold out longer Kate or Mady. It shows just how little respect she has for her mother when in the span of 10 seconds she 1. interrupts her mother when her mother is speaking 2. interrupts to sass and be rude 3. stomps off 4. sasses some more/talks back 5. stomps back 6. whines 7. Does this all in front of the cameras knowing full well she is embarrassing her mother in front of millions.
All teens have their moments but this was more than a teen moment. This was a child who does not have any respect for their mother and desperately wants to find that respect, and will go to great lengths to show her she does not respect her, including embarrassing her on national T.V. I feel sorry for her.
Shows just how much physical abuse and authoritarian parenting really doesn't work.
So their mom was away for a month, and then when they could finally spend time together during spring break, the G kids were filming?
In a very early episode, TFW was lamenting how little time she gets to spend with her kids one on one. And she said something like, she'd wonder at the end of the day, "Did I have any meaningful interaction with (boy tup) today?" That's when there was still a few drops of
maternal instinct running through her veins. But then she freely admitted that one week at home, and one week away was what worked best for her family. But when did that become, one month away, and one week with a crew invading my kids' lives? I feel
very sorry for those children, and especially those young boys.
So, in that clip, her reason for getting the twins Ipads and Iphones, is so that she can use them as leverage to get them to behave.
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That's a pretty sick way to see things. I give you things so I can take them away (and obviously get great pleasure out of watching you squirm when I do)? Jeepers. That sounds histrionic.
How about, I got them for them because they are educational and wonderful technological tools?
She says, "And, this will be your last redemption."
She still chooses the wrong words for awkward usage .
And, the French manicure is still used for punctuation.
The Definitive Ranking Of Reality Show Breakups That We’re Still Mourning.....#5- she must be so proud.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/wetv/the-definitive-ranking-of-reality-show-breakups-that-were-st
I just broke out in a cold sweat....what does "PREMIER" mean?? God help us all...
http://www.people.com/article/kate-plus-8-tlc-special-sneak-peek
Special is 6/25. Heaven help us all!
I still think this will be disturbing for her fans to watch...just that 30 second clip was disturbing...
I hope they are using the word premiere to mean "first airing."
I'm pretty sure I've seen one-time specials use the word. I hope it doesn't mean series.
I did pause when they were filming this weekend. I thought, that's an awful quick turn around for a special that's going to air in June. Now they already have plenty for a promo clip but they're still filming this past weekend??
It could just be the special is almost done and they needed 10 more minutes of filler so they went out this weekend. Or maybe they needed to reshoot a few things or redo the storyline a bit.
I hope that doesn't mean they're filming for more episodes and that this coffee shop stuff wasn't even part of the special. Oh geez.
Ps. The glee that she finds by being controlling and mean is even more creepy and terrifying now that her face doesn't move.
I still think this will be disturbing for her fans to watch...just that 30 second clip was disturbing...
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I agree. I just don't know if very many will admit it. That Sandie chick might admit it.
10 and 13 is just not cute. It's rarely going to be cute. These are the hair going grey years, not the "awww" years. I think it's uncomfortable for most people to watch someone who has no control over their 13 year old, a piss poor parent, engage in a battle of wills with them. Why would it be any different watching Kate have this battle? It should make any normal person's skin crawl. They'll suck up to her and tell her how wonderful it was but deep down inside they'll know they really miss the Thomas the Train years.
Mady's still crying and throwing tantrums like shes 5 years old...theres something wrong there. Is that the best clip they could find? Is that supposed to attract viewers? Wow...just wow..
She says, "And, this will be your last redemption."
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Yeah, that's weird. What's that mean? Last chance?
I also noticed her southern Pennsylvania accent is VERY strong, stronger than I ever heard it before. She hasn't been spending enough time outside town.
Not that there's anything wrong with that, I don't mind the accent, but that accent would stick out like a sore thumb if she tried to get some kind of other TV job besides her own life on T.V. For the accent alone she's a huge liability.
One of these days, Kate will push Mady too far, and that kid will tell all that she knows. Mady has no respect for her mother at all. I thought she was to apologize in order to return to the camera..did I miss her saying "sorry?"
For me, the ad that precedes the clip features Jennifer Aniston. When you watch Jennifer and then see Kate, what a difference!! And Jennifer is 7 years older than Kate.
The clapboard that the kids are holding in the beginning says "Interview Day" and is date 3-13-14. That was definitely done on their spring break.
Maybe when Mady said "no, no FUN things", she actually meant that she didn't want to film this special, especially since the Today show disaster.
I just find it so ironic that she has spent 13 years trying to control that child, asserting her authority, putting it out there she is the mother and Mady is the child and Mady is to obey her. There is evidence she used physical force with the children to assert her authority, and we have seen the way she verbally speaks to them, that's all on tape. It was Mommy's way or the highway for years. And she prided herself on her parenting.
For all her desperation to control these kids, it hasn't worked. In fact it's completely backfired on her. Mady is about as disrespectful as it gets at that age. She isn't afraid to say anything or do anything, and right to Kate's face. Kate's lost control over her. This is not Mady's fault. This is the sign of a child who has been parented poorly.
The child is begging, pleading for a different parenting style. This is not working for her, and she's desperate for structure. Not Kate's idea of iron fist structure, but normal structure with a normal parent.
The worst part of it all is that all the other kids are watching and learning, and seeing how far you can push Kate and how easy it is. Good luck to TFW with this, this is a mess.
I thought she was to apologize in order to return to the camera..did I miss her saying "sorry?"
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She said it quickly and sassily. Like she's not sorry at all. More behavior that is unacceptable. An apology needs to be said in sincerity, without the sass and attitude, and you need to explain what you did and why it was wrong. You could tell Kate just wanted to get through the motions of this particular battle of the wills and get back to giving her grand speech to the kids about whatever she was talking about as she hams for the cameras.
Really, this is bad.
"Uncomfortable" is the perfect word for this. I honestly can't watch it a second time. She sounds like such an ass trying so hard to be in control. I'm embarrassed for her.....
KIAT.....Good catch....why did Mady say no fun things? Do you think she didn't want to film. Also who made her come back into the camera shot. I doubt she came back on her own...
Of course, Kate has to point out how HARD she has it:
""It's all still happening, with or without cameras," she says. "I'm getting older, tireder, more worn out. The kids are getting older and smarter and giving me a run for my money, daily and hourly and moment by moment."
This will be all about poor, poor Kate. Look how rough she has it.
Nothing like putting down her own kids to make herself look like the sorry person she is.
There are already negative comments about Mady on the People site. How could any loving mother expose her children to this unfair criticism? Mady is a normal young teen girl and this is not abnormal behavior and does not make her a brat! I hope school is over for the year as I am sure her school mates will see these comments.
The by product of this would be people who are trying to adopt for the right reasons (something other than reality TV) having their adoptions affected...
The Arnolds need to get the stars (money) out of their eyes, and get these children off TV. Jen and Bill can film to their hearts desire. Go for it, exposure your luxury life for all to see. Just leave the children out of it.
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Are you saying the Bill and Jen adopted their children for a storyline for their show and don't have the same motivation as other adoptive parents?
That couldn't be farther from the truth. They desperately wanted children of their own. Jen went through a number of very painful procedures and tried to use a surrogate but they were unsuccessful. It was then that they turned to adoption. They didn't get any special treatment and went through the same inspections and scrutiny as any other potential adoptive parent. Most of the flack they're getting for continuing to have their kids on tv is justified but some of it is not based on accurate background information and slightly misguided. I don't think they live a "luxury life" at all. Jen works full time at the hospital. She travels giving speeches at medical conferences and trains others in her specialty. Bill is more hands on at home with the kids while still being a business owner (a pet shop and medical supplies). They're no slouches like the Gosselins, who did nothing at all except pimp their kids out to earn money.
This will be all about poor, poor Kate. Look how rough she has it.
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And the implication is it's her children's fault for giving her HOURLY challenges and not her own piss poor parenting that got them to this point where these dang kids are such an hourly, minute-by-minute challenge for poor shmoopy. I don't care how many kids you have you should not be struggling every single minute with them. Some problems are normal at this age, but she should strive for most of their time together being happy, peaceful, and without issues. This is just not right or normal.
Oh, dear God. What did I just watch?? Me, Me, Me, my BFF adolescent throwing a tantrum, mind games phone/iPad taking, drill sargeant tactics, young kids wriggling on the interview couch shrieking, and oh, doesn't my hair look loverly?
And it's now grown to TWO HOURS? GMAFB.
KIAT.....Good catch....why did Mady say no fun things? Do you think she didn't want to film.
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Just by the tone of her voice, I got the impression she was just being sassy. I.e. saying whatever was the opposite of what Kate was saying. Kate said we're going to do fun things, and Mady had to immediately pipe up and say NO fun things! It was the sort of thing an angry, upset, frustrated child would do to derail the train. Trolling behavior, if you like. Just doing it because she can, because she likes to watch her efforts to derail bear fruit. She embarrasses her mother (retribution for her) and she gets attention for it. Win win.
She was quick to come back to the group so obviously she did want to participate or at least see what the fun things were. I don't think it was REALLY about not caring about fun things.
This is what made it so concerning because she was basically just being disruptive, from what I can tell. It's completely unacceptable behavior, but of course should be blamed on her mother, who has allowed it and has no idea how to stop it. I want to be careful to say that I feel sorry for Mady and I don't blame her. I get a strong sense that the parenting is to blame here, and not Mady as a person. I'm sure she's a nice girl, she seems very bright and sharp. But she's caught in Kate's vortex and a kid that bright who knows her own mind at a very young age is going to feel VERY suppressed by someone like Kate, it was inevitable and is only going to get worse.
Wow, why would they film and show that clip? It shows TFW in a bad light as well as Mady. One of the tup girls is covering her face almost, huddled up.TFW seemed very angry. She also seemed weary of the common life in asking in a tired voice who wanted scrambled eggs.I think the angle is poor old single me, piecing and patching with all these ungrateful kids I have...what happened to #funfamiy #Ilovemy kids?
She should have tried to maintain some civility with her ex. He might back her up on some of her rules when they start doing what teens/tweens do. This way she's on her own and it's going to be a bumpy ride. I doubt they'll listen to Steve either.
She made this bed now she can lie in it.
I hate recapping two hour things it just feels like it will never end, and the longer it is I think the harder it is to keep the writing snazzy. A nice 42 minute episode is the perfect length to recap. DWTS was a drag. I mean it's fun but in the moment where you're only 45 minutes in and you realize you're not even halfway through.....lol oh brother.
OMG I just watched the clip. She is so miserable!! What happened to happy! happy! happy!!?? The thing is, she has been disciplining Mady like that for years with the harsh "that's it, leave" and it hasn't changed anything so she needs to think up something new. How about some compassion or empathy? I bet dollars to donuts Mady was expecting a trip when they filmed and that's why she said no, no fun things.
Who was it that put her head down when TFW went off? A tup or C?
Look at me...cracking eggs..piss, piss, moan, moan...".OMG..look and see how hard I have it. Ouch...I broke a fake nail"..."Shut that damn camera of so I can get the housekeeper to fix these little brats breakfast" "I think I'll go back to bed"..
Tucker's Mom said... 66Come on, sheeple!!
If you can't recognize the dissonance between Kate's rainbows and unicorn farts Tweeting, and THIS, I don't know what else could possibly open your eyes.
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Haha you said that so much better than I did but I said the same idea. She is m-i-s-e-r-a-b-l-e. And I see some commenters are saying well if I had 8 kids I'd be a dictator too. My dad's cousin had 16, count-em 16 kids; several from his first wife who died then the rest (2 sets of twins). They had big family parties in the summer and I don't remember any dictatorship or meanness. Just a large loving family. GMAB
LOL that "hair".
Tell us again, TFW, about how you don't use extensions anymore.
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20820516,00.html
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 67
My heart breaks for Mady. She is a child who is crying out for a different kind of structure. Something other than an iron fist battle of the wills, who can hold out longer Kate or Mady.
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Yes, like I said TFW has been disciplining her like this for 13 years and it hasn't worked. It also doesn't help that in the Katy Show, Mady sassed and shushed her and nothing got said to her. TFW took it and acted like it was cute. Talk about mixed messages.
"WE WANTED TO REINFORCE THATE THE CAMERAMAN IS NOT UNCLE CAMERA MAN AND OUR FIELD PRODUCER IS NOT AUNT FIELD PRODUCER"
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This is a direct slap at Kreider. Don't think the LC didn't do their research.
PJ
The thing is, she has been disciplining Mady like that for years with the harsh "that's it, leave" and it hasn't changed anything so she needs to think up something new. How about some compassion or empathy?
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Right. I think she would do well to do some conjoint therapy or therapy to help her with this child.
Actually my narcissist had very challenging children to discipline, and I give them credit, they did go to therapy for some pointers. That was very good. The kids would gang up on their parents and they were VERY bright kids, like gifted and talented bright. Also they're the kind of kids where if you punish them they would say stuff like "that's fine with me, I won't miss my playstation, iPod, etc." Like those kind of kids. I've never seen anything like it, they were the most tenacious kids ever and at eight years old could level their mother to collapsing into sobs of frustration, when that sort of carrying on really wasn't her normally.
What actually worked for them is that when they did something wrong, they would have to stay home from whatever and write a letter to the person they offended or wronged. Not two sentences. A full page. For a ten year old that's huge.
You could see when they had to really sit down and write out, it sunk in better. You would actually see real sincerity when they turned the letter over to the person they offended. They would finally get it. Sometimes at least. Quite honestly there were many more struggles, some very serious, but you get the child you get and yelling and screaming gets you nowhere.
Anyway, Mady is smart like those kids and the standard punishments don't always work on a kid like that. Certainly this yelling and screaming battle of the wills is not working. What is concerning is that TFW seems to think she has a handle on this when she really isn't anywhere CLOSE.
I wonder if TLC has come up with a name for this episode? I think the perfect one would be "The Bitch is Back!".
Since People got the exclusive to air this clip, I have a sinking feeling there will be another cover for Kate and the kids around the time of the episode.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 69
So, in that clip, her reason for getting the twins Ipads and Iphones, is so that she can use them as leverage to get them to behave.
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That's a pretty sick way to see things. I give you things so I can take them away (and obviously get great pleasure out of watching you squirm when I do)? Jeepers.
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My dd currently does not have her phone for being mouthy. I hate doing that...I don't take glee in it. In fact it's a pain in the ass. I'd rather her just behave!!
JR said... 79
Mady's still crying and throwing tantrums like shes 5 years old...theres something wrong there. Is that the best clip they could find? Is that supposed to attract viewers? Wow...just wow..
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Yes there's something wrong..for one thing she never sees her father. How can that be emotionally healthy? She used to love him dearly. If she feels betrayed by him, she wouldn't just write him off, she would have deep emotional injuries that may be displaced into other situations. Parental alienation......
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 95
I hate recapping two hour things it just feels like it will never end, and the longer it is I think the harder it is to keep the writing snazzy.
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Yeah two hours of recapping Kate's whining and moaning is a lethal dosage. Proceed with caution if you're going to do it all at once. Get some rest and drink plenty of fluids before you delve into it. lol
She travels giving speeches at medical conferences and trains others in her specialty. Bill is more hands on at home with the kids while still being a business owner (a pet shop and medical supplies). They're no slouches like the Gosselins, who did nothing at all except pimp their kids out to earn money.
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Regardless if they live a life of luxury and are not slouches. Bottom line is -- leave the kids out of it.
This really wouldn't draw much interest if her kids DIDN'T act out. I wouldn't be surprised if she told Mady and the others it's okay to be yourself and throw tantrums in front of the camera for high ratings which might lead to another series so we can all go on fun trips and not have to sell our house or leave our school!!
Just watched the clip. My God! I didn't think it was possible but she's worse than she ever has been.
Still whining about how tired she is and thinking she's the only parent on the planet. She's sick and evil.
PJ
Once again, the question begs asking...exactly what is TFW "tireder"
from? She just returned from a month without having to take care of her children. She was staying in a luxury hotel, having hair and makeup done every day. What ever her silly little CA tasks were, they were her only focus for each day. It's not like she had to divide her attention between a job, and children, and household responsibilities, like the vast portion of American women. Gladys tried to spin it like poor TFW was juggling her family commitments with this "job," but
I highly doubt that.
And "tireder?" Ms. Gift O' Gab, as eloquent as ever.
AuntieAnn said... 94
She should have tried to maintain some civility with her ex. He might back her up on some of her rules when they start doing what teens/tweens do. This way she's on her own and it's going to be a bumpy ride. I doubt they'll listen to Steve either.
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This is true. My ex just gave my dd a talking to about disrespecting me after I took her phone away.
Mady's outburst may have been part of the "story line", (at least I hope it was), but Kate's sheer glee in being in control is positively demonic. The entire interaction was completely inappropriate, and frankly if it wasn't pre-planned, then Kate should have protected Mady by not allowing it to be aired and put in a situation that will be open to ridicule. But alas, it's all about Kate of course and I wouldn't be surprised if the gist of the special is poor "victim" Kate - taking care of 8 unruly children all by herself.
Clearly, the scene itself was scripted. If this is just regular ordinary life, then why do "fun things" require a family meeting complete with poster boards and the CWS easel? I don't know what is on the agenda, but none of the kids looked like they were having any fun at all, in fact most of them look terrified.
I bet this weekends filming was for the kids 10th birthday party. It certainly would explain the lack of fanfare on their actual birthday weekend. I also agree with admin that "premier" is just referring to the first airing of the special and not the beginning of a new series. In order for TLC to 'help' Kate in exploiting her children, they will need to rerun the special as often as possible. Gotta feed that narcissistic ego of hers ya know.
Shes not a dictator...shes " monster"...and not because shes yelling at Mady, but because those kids do not want a camera in their face. She knows that and could care less. MONEY MONEY MONEY...its all about money and the lifestyle shes become accustomed to....SCREW YOU KIDS..MOMMY NEEDS ANOTHER FACE LIFT.
Kate ACTUALLY asked the children who wanted scrambled eggs? Isn't it her who chooses what they eat since she wasn't a 'short order cook'? For as long as I've heard her talk about meals, they had to eat what she served.
Suzy
This clip has horrid. She is simply horrid. HORRID.
admin said, "Not that there's anything wrong with that, I don't mind the accent, but that accent would stick out like a sore thumb if she tried to get some kind of other TV job besides her own life on T.V. For the accent alone she's a huge liability."
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So that's what is wrong with me...it's my accent. I was wondering why I didn't get all of those jobs on television. I don't get out of town enough. I'll have to work on that. Admin, do you have a guest bedroom? I need a road trip! :)
Of course Mady was disrespectful to her mother, in fact I bet all the children are disrespectful to Kate. Why should the children respect their mother, when their mother clearly doesn't respect her children, (or anyone else for that matter)?
Where is "Gladys" anyway?
I think M's "No fun things" comment was a slap at TLC for not lavishing a trip on them, and I think she was regurgitating what her mother had said to them when she announced the update show. What 13 year old would come out with that? This is straight from the horse's mouth.
I'm from a family of 10 kids. Who gives options for breakfast with that many? Breakfast was served and you ate. Period. I think that was done for the cameras too. Are you telling me that a woman who demands her kids eat lunch in a certain order cooks a custom breakfast? Fat chance.
PJ
If that clip doesn't bring Gladys out of sulking mode, I don't know what will.
"It's all still happening, with or without cameras," she says. "I'm getting older, tireder, more worn out. The kids are getting older and smarter and giving me a run for my money, daily and hourly and moment by moment."
Oh, poor Shmoopy, so tired and worn out, and all this without the burden of a real job, which makes her oh so relatable. And all those $$$ for the faux hair, faux face and gobs of makeup on said plastic face. So, so relatable.
And 2 hours of a special, take away even more commercial breaks and clips of babies, what do you really have - a lot of boring IMO. I am quite sure I have to wash my hair that night.
Of course:
Lauren @ljohnson2006: The @Kateplusmy8 special will air June 25th at 9 on @TLC Can't wait.
This reminds of the final episode of K+8 - TLC did their best to put Kate in a bad light. If that People clip is an indication of the special, wow, they did it to her again....It's sad that the kids have to collateral damage, though.
Dmasy said... 70
She says, "And, this will be your last redemption."
She still chooses the wrong words for awkward usage .
And, the French manicure is still used for punctuation.
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Along with that papal-ish gesture of benediction.
Holy Hair Extensions!
I won't be watching to give this show the hits for ratings.
T (#117), I would bet that the boys are respectful, only for fear of
the consequences. They have been portrayed as second class
citizens in their own home. To have been described as "dirty"
and "icky" by their mother -- at the height of their adorable pudgy toddler stage -- I can only imagine how she looks at them now.
Actually, Kate has made an ass of herself, and this special will confirm it. First, several of months ago, Kate did people with twins, and life was in lala land, she did CA, Kate state on twitter she was having a wonderful time, now to appear in a clip from the special, just re-confirms, Roberts book. It also makes Kate out to be a liar.
This is the angle Kate is hoping people will buy, so she can get back on TV . Much like the crap on Tori, and a lot of the reality TV people. Lots of DRAMA, that is why Kate was dressed that way at the bakery. Pulling the poor mom, harried, from dealing with 8 kids act. Since nothing else has worked. During the last 2 1/2 years, Kate was hardly seen in a run down condition, this is just a lie, to get people to watch. If TLC, does not give her another show, she is hoping that maybe Lifetime or other will. A show on a so-call: hard working single mom dealing with 8 kids, on her own, and the struggles, both with kids, money etc. Kate plus 8 the struggle or the single mom doing it herself.
Cause, we all know Kate is the only person in the world with 8 kids, count them 8.
And 2 hours of this kind of crap, Kate, bitching/whining/complaining/crying about how hard it is to raise 8 kids, doing it alone, and how she has no time for herself, even to dress to go out, and how tired she is(a person who does not work, home all day) and how ungrateful her kids are. Sounds, just like all of the rest of the reality shows.
To Kates fans: you really need an update? Look at Kates twitter, there are recent pics of the kids, and the twins were not that long ago on TV. If Kate would have waited say 3 more years, and not posted any pics of the kids, yeah, maybe it would be worth watching to see how the kids changed, but since Kate posted recent pics of the kids easter, birthday, and aussie shirt, why bother! COMPLETE WASTE OF HOURS.
Admin: if you do watch, to not give ratings, watch it when it comes on later, the second time.
She proved herself a liar in just that small clip. All her tweets about, happy, happy family, I love my kids so much, I miss my kids so much were her usual lying. She is the worst mother ever. She drains the joy out of any and every situation. All children lined up in perfect order in front of the whiteboard with the controlling witch ruling with an iron fist.
Disgusting. How do the fans support this??
Sherri said... 89
I respect what you said, however, Bill&Jen are in a unique position; being parents through foreign adoption. Yes B&J were filming before the kids came along and tried to have children the old fashion way and also with fertility drugs. I don't begrudge them how they came to be a family. My point is, as parents via foreign adoption they have a responsibility to not put their children on camera. In doing so, they potentially are putting other foreign adoptive parents at risk. India's laws are a bit more liberal so I wouldn't expect any backlash from the India government. China, on the other hand, adoptions are a well-oiled machine. For example, if an adoptive parent is morbidly obese, they cannot adopt. All it would take would be for someone to alert the Chinese government to investigate that the Will is on TV, and China could shut down adoptions.
I rescind my comment about their luxury life. They have both worked hard to have nice things, and they did it w/o the kids.
Suzy said... 114
Kate ACTUALLY asked the children who wanted scrambled eggs? Isn't it her who chooses what they eat since she wasn't a 'short order cook'? For as long as I've heard her talk about meals, they had to eat what she served.
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Actually she asked who wanted eggs, AFTER she had already cracked about a dozen of them and started to cook them. How would you know how many to make when you don't even know how many want them. For the record only 2 1/5 kids said they wanted any. Plus if she truly makes them every morning (as she has claimed in the past), wouldn't she already know who would want them?
Premiering June 5 on TLC, a very special Kate +8: "Lies, contradictions, and over reactions", with special guest star Zorro the parrot!
I just watched the clip. Yes, indeed...that's the Kate the locals know. She's still miserable, still controlling, with no redeeming qualities about her. She hasn't changed.
getofftwitter said, "During the last 2 1/2 years, Kate was hardly seen in a run down condition, this is just a lie, to get people to watch."
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Actually, that's not altogether true. Maybe not on camera, but out in public she's been looking sloppy...greasy hair, unkempt, and just generally grubby.
Ohhhh, I get it and I'm sure Mady and Cara and maybe the younger kids do, too.
CLAP, CLAP!! "We have fun things planned" = TLC is here filming. Right TFW?
Piecing & patching with cell phones & ipads...poor Kate & her first world problems.
OMG...she is working in the kitchen with the bird on her shoulder! Yeah, that's totally sanitary...what a nut.
Why do they have her dressed like a frumpy mom IN the show but as the barbie makeup doll I had in the 70s for the interview?
http://childhoodmemorykeeper.blogspot.com/2010/05/barbie-styling-head.html
Kate was already cooking a very large pan full of scrambled eggs when she asked who wanted them scrambled. What would she have done if no one raised their hand when asked if that was the kind they wanted? As it was, only a couple did raise their hands.
I think Mady's behavior is in part due to bad parenting, and constant filming when young. But also, I think that poor child has inherited a whole bunch of "Kate" genes.
She really needs to "get with the times". Presentation should have been in Powerpoint, presented options in a poll format for the kids to vote on (anonymously) on their iPads/iPhones/Laptops ;) M could stage a coup with a secret meeting to bribe the others and all voted down.
Sooo - trip to Michael's was for poster board, tripod and markers?
BOOORING. Same old, same old.
Oh my word! She has finally lost her effing mind, completely. So vicious, so evil, so demented. She has had nobody to keep her in check, what minimal check that would be, not sure. She's WORSE if that's possible. Was that Leah hiding her head, in shame, embarassement, stress? Can there be ANY doubt that she is an abuser? Can any rational human being not SEE the dysfunction? Those poor poor kids. Mady mimics her mother and unfortunately I think she'll be just like her as a wife, friend, parent. JMO.
It is very telling, to me at least, that this was a low-budget, no-thought-put- into-it, "where are they now" special. I think this was a contractual obligation of TLC and they just were not going to spend the big bucks to send Kate and her kids on an exotic vacation. I'm sure Kate was not happy AT.ALL.
Hmmmm.... The more that I think about it, the more convinced I become that Mady's outburst was not a coincidence. Perhaps this is Kate's revenge for the today show incident? After all, they made her look bad on national television, and in her deranged narcissistic mind, she thinks that if she shows them to be bratty uncontrollable kids we will feel bad for her and see that she was the victim all along. Her Machiavellian machinations and manipulations of the truth are grossly despicable, and I desperately hope that I'm completely wrong.
Actually, that's not altogether true. Maybe not on camera, but out in public she's been looking sloppy...greasy hair, unkempt, and just generally grubby.
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Just confirms what I'm seeing, she's gone over the edge, or she's very close to it. does anyone else see some very obvious mental issues going on there.
This clip is like on Wife Swap when the twins came down to early and were told to leave and they turned and left. But guess what, there will come a day when she will say leave and instead of stomping off, M will say NO. and stand there. What would she have to lose? She'd know the ipod and phone will be taken away. She's still 13. Wait until 16 if nothing changes.
Every outfit in the clip is the same style - long sleeve shirt with a sleeveless vest/hoodie over it. Maybe I'm overthinking, but I'm wondering if it's to cover a too skinny body.
She sure is putting her 'acting' skills to use. The dramatic heavy sigh as she cracks a million eggs for breakfast. The "trying to keep my balance" ballet as she tells Mady not to stomp. And the oh so dramatic "slam the cell phone on the table & point at it" move. Too bad her forehead can't move - a frown or two would add to the drama.
A premiere (or première, from the French première, meaning "first") is the first public performance of a work,[1] such as theatre work, film, dance, or musical composition. (Wikipedia)
The first episode of a series is called a pilot. I've seen TV movies advertised as "world premier events" which just means that it's the first time that they're airing the movie and it will be on again in case you miss it the first time.
She's only doing the egg thing for breakfast for the camera. Didn't she just make a comment about going to pick up chicken feed from a neighbor and either she or A commented that they needed a silo for cereal? My guess is that they get cereal more often than not, not that there's anything wrong with that other than lying about it. And what was up with her walking around with Zorro on her shoulder while in the kitchen?
So much for gift of gab...she could hardly spit out her lines in the barbie interview portion
First, that Rapunzel hair!!!
Cooking eggs in the kitchen with a bird on your shoulder...I thought she was Miss Super Sanitary! She slipped up with that one, LOL.
A chart of FUN spring break activities????? Stranger than strange.
Mady's outburst...she still is very impulsive and emotional. She just spoke the truth in that these were NOT fun things on that chart. She always ends up saying "sorry" to Kate (like on Today Show) because she fears the consequences.
This show will be all about the kids being brats and poor single mom having to deal with them. So what? What parent hasn't been through this stuff? The issue here is that Kate is nuts and the kids are AFRAID of her. Just in that short clip, she appears demented. Maybe this show will work in Jon's favor.
If Kate believes the airing of this update will bring in offers for a TV show, she is definitely not living in the real world. This will end her hope if EVER making a comeback. Except for her handful of loyal followers, I cannot imagine anyone enjoying the program of a mother screeching at her children all the time. It would be one thing if she disciplined but also was affectionate with her kids, but she's just not. She's just plain MEAN.
Do they not heat their house? I have never cooked breakfast in a quilted outdoor vest, but maybe I am just odd?
The other thing about bill and Jen is they are not the first people who need or want to retire early. Yet many people have done it without putting their children to work. For starters if they want to retire early they need to downsize now. They live in a huge and completely unnecessary house. You can't live like that then complain you have to work the kids so you can retire. You could cut so many expenses before restoring to child exploitation. No one said saving for early retirement is easy or fun. That's what everyone deals with. They are not special.
Ha, ha. She asked who wanted eggs and talk about hesitation from the kids. Aaden looked to see who raised their hands and another one timidly raised the hand. What a set up. How often would your kids all gather around the stove like that?
I don't think Mady's outburst was planned. I really believe she is highly impulsive and blurted out, which pissed Kate off. The kids were supposed to be excited about the activities their controlling mother planned. Nobody, and I mean nobody, would chart out activities like that on a board. It was probably for the cameras to prove how organized Kate is, but that's not organization. It's CONTROL.
Ut oh! There must be something wrong with my eyes. When the kids are spending one of their spring break days having a super fun "Interview Day"' the slate says "Take #3". But that can't be right, because Kate insists that her "realest reality show" never does retakes. Plus, I can't see Kate's face move at all, and all her frown lines have disappeared when she insists that she only had a tummy tuck. So yup, my eyes must be going for sure.
Can anyone pinpoint when she was fired from CA vs the date of this clip? (3/13)
And this is how the sheeple think. SMH in disgust.
@Xxxxxxxx @Kateplusmy8 best line ever! I got those girls cell phones and iPads so I can take them away!
I can't believe TFW thinks she can control what information the kids access when they have iPods and iPads. You'd better believe they see/hear all the news on BOTH their parents and to think otherwise is completely delusional.
She is a genius. The ipads and cell phones were DISGUISED as birthday gifts when they were actually intended to be used as a punishment. Two birds, one stone. Brilliant. How long until these poor kids can escape? Mentally ill doesn't even begin to describe her.
PJ
Was it chilly during mid-March during their spring break?
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Can anyone pinpoint when she was fired from CA vs the date of this clip? (3/13)
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CA didn't start filming until March 20. I don't remember when Kate was fired, but I think it was sometime mid-April. Remember, she was home on Easter and returned to twitter at that time.
NJGal51 said... 154
And this is how the sheeple think. SMH in disgust.
@Xxxxxxxx @Kateplusmy8 best line ever! I got those girls cell phones and iPads so I can take them away!
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Then she says 'find their currency and that's it'. Did she swallow a parenting manual?
Truth is, those kids paid for their own ipads and phones. They're the ones who made the money. Without them, Kate would be waiting tables...not that there's anything wrong with that.
Pull the stick out Kate.
I'm watching the preview again- lots of great comments so far.
But wait a second... Kate is ordering Mady to leave when she said "no fun things" and I see, over a secretary desk, a childhood photo of Kate?
My parents had my baby/kid photos hung in the house, but not their own childhood portraits.
I little odd?
I think it's a good idea to take away things and privileges as punishment.
It teaches them that having a phone or a tablet or lap top or game device is a want and not a need, and something that parents are not obligated to provide.
But if you do provide something, do it for the right reason- not with the intention that it is being given to CONTROL your child.
Sick.
Kate, Tammy Wynette called.
She wants her wig back.
The one she wore in 1973.
What is Mady saying when she stomps away? It sounds like "you never trust me" but that doesn't make any sense in the context.
I disagree about Mady behaving badly.
I think she's so, so over this that it's hard for her to toe the line.
Why the hell would a 13 year old girl want to sit down and plan her Spring break with her 10-year old siblings?
She's going to get dragged into activities she doesn't want to do and I think "fun stuff" doesn't interest her anymore.
And it shouldn't!
Frankly, Kate's way over-the-top mimicking of Mady, "stomping' back to the sofa was spiteful and provocative and not called for.
Mady said "sorry" and returned right away, and Kate has to not only call attention to the manner in which Mady did it, but imitate her like a little girl on a playground?
What the hell was with Kate's dramatics?
That was so uncomfortable to watch.
It's bad enough that there is years of footage of embarrassing tantrums and punishments that these kids have to deal with, as the footage will be around forever.
To have Mady's outburst, a pretty typical teen girl outburst, filmed and not only shown, but SHOWCASED in the preview, is SICK.
F*ck Kate and TLC.
Being a teen is hard enough. I can't imagine a parent leaving their child so open to teasing.
"Hey Mady, let's do FUN STUFF!!
Tucker's Mom said... 162
Kate, Tammy Wynette called.
She wants her wig back.
The one she wore in 1973.
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LMAO!!
You nailed it. That IS Tammy's hair from 40 years ago.
Local, I heard that too. And did she say she gave the GIRLS iPhones and iPads?
Also, when Kate is yelling at Mady, one girl is curling up like she wants to disappear- covering her face and barely peeping over her arms.
I find that curling up into a fetal position very telling- it looks very self-soothing.
When the 6 are lined up to do their announcement with the board, it's funny that 2 boys immediately jump up to leave!
Yeah, they're so over it- could see that back to CWS.
She also is all botoxed up if you notice during that couch interview. Deep frown lines like she had just don't disappear as you age.
She will only be able to intimidate, scare, control, punish, banish BEAT those kids for so long. There WILL be rebellion and retaliation. Lather rinse repeat----sadly history WILL repeat itself and she will have raised dysfunctional polarizing selfish adults who will raise their own kids in the same manner. Whether it was for the cameras or not, that sighing and bemoaning of ALL SHE HAS TO DO FOR THOSE KIDS is a daily occurance. That is my mother right there. Eight kids? pfft-she can't even fathom what's in store for her in her very near future...
And the little glances to the camera man? She really has lost it, she looks manic
And she most definitely has had a facelift. Look at her ears, they're slanted, she's got the tell tale pixie ears.
. Too bad her forehead can't move - a frown or two would add to the drama.
Bwahaha in spades!
Help. I cannot access that People clip here in Canada. I'm dying to see what is going on after all the comments. LOL.
local - I think she said I didn't do anything. You never trust me.
I wonder why Kate had her phone in the first place. Was this take 4 on the clapboard of the family conference room scene?
Children let us begin our super-fun Spring Break with a briefing in the war room ... and so, the filming began.
Frankly, Kate's way over-the-top mimicking of Mady, "stomping' back to the sofa was spiteful and provocative and not called for.
Mady said "sorry" and returned right away, and Kate has to not only call attention to the manner in which Mady did it, but imitate her like a little girl on a playground?
What the hell was with Kate's dramatics?
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But you see, THIS IS HER ROLE MODEL. You can bet Mady and some of the others act out in this exact same way. When you have a stunted adult with the brain of a tween parenting you? How can she teach them anything other than what she knows? You don't mimic and humiliate, but THIS is what she's teaching them. Like I said, good luck in a few years.
Also, when Kate is yelling at Mady, one girl is curling up like she wants to disappear- covering her face and barely peeping over her arms.
I find that curling up into a fetal position very telling- it looks very self-soothing.
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Yes, I felt that too
Paper Plates,
see if this link works if you copy it
http://www.people.com/article/kate-plus-8-tlc-special-sneak-peek
@ Admin,
They're mentioning this site left right and center in the comments section. :)
How riveting - a mom that cooks breakfast and teenagers that talk back and get punished. Woopty doo.
This is not entertainment, it's not even interesting.
And whomever said that it looks like TLC is trying their hardest to show Kate at her worst - a la RV road trip; you hit the nail on the head. This clip looks almost homemade or something - I can't quite put my finger on it - like it's not "produced" or polished.
Her parenting style is the absolute WORST - you don't give a child anything with hope to one day take it away from them.
Dmasy said... 177
Children let us begin our super-fun Spring Break with a briefing in the war room ... and so, the filming began.
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Yes, doesn't her tone and demeanor just scream FUN? Yeah, she puts the FU in FUN
Man, she looks evil when she says 'yes, indeedy'. Teeth clenched, the squinting, mean eyes. What a witch.
When Kate was standing in front the kids, I saw a Kendra Wilkerson clone. She have botoxed, and plastic surgeried (is that a word?) into Kendra's likeness.
Vanessa said... 179
Also, when Kate is yelling at Mady, one girl is curling up like she wants to disappear- covering her face and barely peeping over her arms.
I find that curling up into a fetal position very telling- it looks very self-soothing.
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And the girl next to her looks very anxious. On a good note I have no idea who is who
This clip looks almost homemade or something - I can't quite put my finger on it - like it's not "produced" or polished.
Her parenting style is the absolute WORST - you don't give a child anything with hope to one day take it away from them.
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yes, it looks very low budget. compare it to CWS?
And only a wicked evil person gives in order to take away. There are ALWAYS strings attached when a narcissist "seemingly" does something nice. Always an ulterior motive. Wolves in sheep's clothing
From one of the comments on the clip site. Who knows if it's true or not. Could be. But since everyone who meets her loves her....
You're only going to see the edited version. You're not going to see the hours of filming they did just this past weekend trying to get video of her going to a local restaurant for breakfast and bitching out the other customers and restaurant employees. Of course TLC will edit that out.
Kate slams the phone down on the table and says "That's mine, until further notice.", implying that that was Mady's phone.
My question is why was she holding the phone in the first place, BEFORE Mady's meltdown?
Can anyone pinpoint when she was fired from CA vs the date of this clip? (3/13)
I think she was fired during?after the cruise line task and before the task where Geraldo was photographed taking pics of the models walking down the sidewalk @ 4/14-16, so a month after the clip. The started filming CA with the Pie Face task 3 24/25.
My question is why was she holding the phone in the first place, BEFORE Mady's meltdown?
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KIAT - I wondered the same thing. (#176)
Scene retake?
This has got to be a living hell for Jon to have to watch as a parent I would be absolutely furious :(
That part in the clip where the one tup is curling up, burying her face...another tup is sitting to the side of her with a very distressed look on her face.
You can see it written all over her face that she thinks how Mady is being treated isn't right, but that she also doesn't dare voice it.
She kind of glances at the camera people to see if they're going to step in and make it stop, but they don't.
It's like watching a man beat his dog and no one will help you make him stop it.
Breaks your heart to see all the distress in the two little girls' faces. Sad, sad, sad.
My question is why was she holding the phone in the first place, BEFORE Mady's meltdown?
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I'm thinking she took it from her before "this" meltdown...last "redemption"?There was some previous "disobeying" that wasn't shown?
And then on the couch she's all giddy explaining to us idiot parents how to REALLY sock it to those pests! Go for the jugular!
Vanessa said... 194
My question is why was she holding the phone in the first place, BEFORE Mady's meltdown?
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I'm thinking she took it from her before "this" meltdown...last "redemption"?There was some previous "disobeying" that wasn't shown?
And then on the couch she's all giddy explaining to us idiot parents how to REALLY sock it to those pests! Go for the jugular!
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I wondered about the phone too. I had to rewatch it to see if I missed something, I thought maybe she grabbed it from her when she stomped out but no...I think you guys are right and that may be where the trust comment came from...an earlier segment. Maybe they'll show the whole thing on the show. Lovely.
Who has a family meeting with an easel and poster board anyway? Don't normal people just sit around the kitchen table?
The easel/poster board thing...she's trying waaay too hard to be all TV like. Trying to emulate the wife swap concept, I guess. She sure thinks she's Kendra. Except that Kendra had a heart.
Some of the comments on there are from people using the head Ewe's names. lol!
Bet they'll run to BV and tattle.
she puts the FU in FUN
Good one! It would be funny if it wasn't so damn true.
It's as plain as day those kids do NOT want to be doing this. Their stress level was probably through the roof. I'm sure it was lecture after lecture, threat after threat beforehand. They're afraid of saying/doing the wrong thing. Mady? Well JUST LIKE HER MOTHER, she melts down when she's stressed. How many times did that bitch justify her freakouts by blaming everyone and anything (when I'm stressed, ask me how can I help you?)
I can feel her tension and she has no other coping mechanisms because she's never been shown any.
Some of the comments on there are from people using the head Ewe's names. lol!
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Ha! Yes, I saw that. "hater" comments signed with the biggest Klover's name!
Pathetic, but funny none the less
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