But then how do you explain the poop that apparently was visible on the back of Kate's shit at some point? I didn't watch but did notice this comment on her Twitter:
TFW had to hobble out and feed the kids? What about the many moms who are wheel chair bound, and still cook supper for their family,every day? She sure never thinks of anyone but herself.
Sleepless In Seattle said... 6 SIS - Kate has an open tray on the counter with a small upright tree branch attached to it.
------------------ . . .Kate claims the bird is potty trained, and if she's not fibbing, then the bird won't poop on that play gym, but will only use his cage to do his business.
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But then how do you explain the poop that apparently was visible on the back of Kate's shit at some point? I didn't watch but did notice this comment on her Twitter:
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 · Jun 19 I DID? Sadly crap happens! RT @Mrs_Thood: Watching #KatePlus8 and @Kateplusmy8 has bird poop down her back lol #thestruggleisreal
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Okay everyone put down the rumspringa and wipe off your screens. I know it was a typo but it's too funny to ignore. How DO you explain the poop that apparently was visible on the back of Kate's shit? lol!!
Seriously though. I have to wonder why the bird is allowed to freely roam/fly around that kitchen. It's an accident waiting to happen in more ways than one.
She's raising her kids the same way...just throw caution to the wind and hope they all make it through alive.
Sherry Baby said... 9 Denise @Mydmaxx 2h @Paige_Kate8fan @Kateplusmy8 I recorded so I can watch over & over again too !
___________________________ Why would you want to watch the workings of a dysfunctional family and bad parenting over and over again? Sheeple psychology intrigues me.
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I went to some of the Sheep's timelines from last night and they are baffling. They just don't see what most people see.
OrangeCrusher1 said... 10 So if Mady's friend was invited, and apparently without informing Mady, does that mean that between the 8 children there is only 1 friend close enough to be invited to the outing? This is beyond sad and pathetic.
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Good point! Or was it because TFW was afraid M would act out and thought she may not if her friend were there.
TFW turned it around on her saying, oh next time I shouldn't invite her?
And even then Mady responded maturely, saying, no I didn't say that. I said next time ask me first.
TFW continued with the manipulation saying she wouldn't invite a friend next time.
Disgusting. She just had to win, had to have the last word. Couldn't just say, oh i'm sorry. You're right, I didn't think. After this I'll ask you first.
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She has to be mentally ill. She just has to be. Who behaves like this with their own children?
This is OT, but it relates to Kate and the pooping Zorro.
Right now I am fostering a rescue Scarlet Macaw named Bullet. He's as miserable as Kate and has anger/control issues. The two were meant for each other.
There's a lovely family who has experience with large parrots and they have expressed interest in adopting him. They have a very large, elaborate play gym for him. Because droppings in a bird this size are quite significant (think cow flop), they'd like him to be potty trained. I'm trying, but so far it's been a frustrating process and I think he knows that he's just tormenting me by not being cooperative. Bullet's vocab is extensive, though, and he will say "Bullet go potty" and then he laughs in a demonic "voice." This may take some time!
Another thing I wanted to mention about the broken "foot" Kate said "I broke my foot and I still hobbled out and fed you" to the kids. That is absolutely disgusting. How many of us mothers have been sicker than a dog, having been the lucky recipient of the flu or other bug that was passed around by our children? _________________ Seattle, what Kate said was actually worse.
"I don't really care! It was broken and you still forced me to hobble out and feed you!" The kids FORCED the bitch to feed them, yeah, right Kate!
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 · Jun 19 I DID? Sadly crap happens! RT @Mrs_Thood: Watching #KatePlus8 and @Kateplusmy8 has bird poop down her back lol #thestruggleisreal
Okay everyone put down the rumspringa and wipe off your screens. I know it was a typo but it's too funny to ignore. _________ What was the typo?
Okay everyone put down the rumspringa and wipe off your screens. I know it was a typo but it's too funny to ignore. How DO you explain the poop that apparently was visible on the back of Kate's shit? lol!!
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I saw it, too, Auntie Ann...I just didn't say anything. Too busy opening up another Rumspringa! I've got to lay off that stuff.
Pass the dunce cap because I am the dope of the day.
1. When I was reading the early comments about Gaga Ball I thought TLC paid for tickets to a Lady Gaga concert. Then I saw the clip. Oops, my bad. But Lady Gaga has called them "Monster Balls" so I guess I may not have been too far off the mark. 2. Someone posted a comment from an article with a link to the article. The comment was - jla • 13 hours ago Why is there a golden retriever on Kate's head? - I actually clicked the link to see a picture of TFW with a dog on her head and then the lightbulb went off. Ah, the mean her hair.
Mel said... 13 She was so manipulative with Mady. Mady voiced a concern (I don't like surprises) and what she needed (next time ask me first) in a very mature, rational manner. ------------------ I agree completely. I ranted on about this scene on the previous page of comments. Mady was very mature to recognize and express her needs; many adults can't do the same. Not that it will do her any good....
I haven't read through all of the posts yet, but most of them. Now let's see if I have this right. Kate has a bird perch on her kitchen counter, the bird is allowed to fly free in the house, and he even landed on the kids' special birthhday cake.
Yet, a couple of years ago, if I remember correctly, when the kids were making something in the kitchen, Kate put brown paper bags on the kitchen counter to keep things clean. She also told the kids that if one crumb fell on the floor, they would have to clean up every bit of it.
YET, a bird can fly freely in the home, in the kitchen, and even has a perch on the kitchen counter?!?! Kate doesn't seem too worried about cleanliness in that scenario, and I sure as heck would not want to eat anything off of her "brown bag" -less counter tops now.
My, how her standards have changed for the cameras.
I'm having a hard time keeping up with all the comments and links. Thanks to all who watched and have kept us updated. I had intended to record the show but I genuinely forgot ( must have been my subconscious kicking in ) so I am enjoying all the comments and snark.
TWF appears to be stark raving bonkers. I had previously thought that when she was called mentally ill, it was an overstatement or exaggeration or pure mockery. But she really is bananas. She hasn't a clue. Those poor kids.
they'd like him to be potty trained. I'm trying, but so far it's been a frustrating process and I think he knows that he's just tormenting me by not being cooperative. Bullet's vocab is extensive, though, and he will say "Bullet go potty" and then he laughs in a demonic "voice." This may take some time!
I don't think birds are meant to be potty trained. It's got to be as frustrating for the bird as it is for the owner. Birds aren't meant to be trained. They have wings. Let them fly.
Wasn't it a practice way back when to hobble a person (such as a convict) by tethering his or her legs together with a leather strap?
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Every time I hear or read 'hobble' I think of Kathy Bates hobbling James Caan's feet to that board and wacking them with the sledge hammer in 'Misery'. Gaaaaah
Funny how Kate can hobble around looking for sympathy with a little biddy broken toe but Mady is all 'dramatics' when she's hurt, whether it was fake or not. Kate lives by 'do as I say not as I do'.
Why is there a golden retriever on Kate's head? - I actually clicked the link to see a picture of TFW with a dog on her head and then the lightbulb went off. Ah, the mean her hair.
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haha!
The dunce cap is making it's rounds. Someone said she looked like Cousin It and I thought it was autocorrect correcting 'doesn't it' and it still didn't make sense. Doesn't it what??? Duh.
She sure has a hard time cracking a smile when she is with the kids, looked like a warden while taking their (fake) breakfast order. And in my eyes, there is no way that any of her dark-haired children look anything like her, they are all resembling Jon. The more work she has done, the less resemblance there will ever be. Putz.
As stated here numerous times, a large part of the Gosselin dynamic was Jon vs. Kate. Jon's gone. How can TLC bring the angst and drama back? Why, make it Kate vs. Mady! You've got everything you need for ratings that are gold AND Presidential.
For good measure, be sure to get lots of footage of the kids displaying their emotions vocally, physically and possibly even psychologically.
Too bad all TLC ended up doing was focusing a camera on those parts of their lives that should never be recorded for public consumption. Mae Keller from Tall Grass Oklahoma does not need to watch the coping skills of 8 children on TV.
You know the friend of Mady and her mother watched the show. I would because my daughter was on there and especially after the report she got back about what happened at BodyZone.
If I were the mom of the girl that went, I would be pretty upset. Did kate say that when a friend comes over, she gets their phone, iPad or whatever and confiscates it? Wow, W. You are making it awfully difficult for these kids to even have friends over.
She is bat crazy, her saying they forced her to hobble and fed them. Well, I believe her, because she said they just learned to pour their own cereal at the age of 10. And she makes the half sandwiches at Zorro's Island Paradise Central! All snark.
But she didn't have a problem hobbling to the Baltimore Book Festival and other stops on her cook book tour. She did quite well on the video I saw.
Who ever posted about kate being sensitive about the hair comments, yes, I agree. She knows her own hair is toast because of all the damage, chemicals, weaving, coloring and most of all, The Money she spent to look like a RHWOGHVPA!
Real Housewife of Ghettoville PA.
My apologies to the locals. Or, how about this?
RHWOBVPA.
Real Housewife of Bullyville PA
She must think the ugly hair comments are really a jab to her in a round about way. EW. Evil Witch.
"I don't really care! It was broken and you still forced me to hobble out and feed you!" The kids FORCED the bitch to feed them, yeah, right Kate! *****************************************************************************
See! See! GRRRRR! This is the guilt shit these kids deal with on a continuous daily basis. It is ALWAYS about her. There's no spin, no trying produce, plan/script, capture and replace the "jon/kate dynamic" this shit is for real.
TFW turned it around on her saying, oh next time I shouldn't invite her?
And even then Mady responded maturely, saying, no I didn't say that. I said next time ask me first.
TFW continued with the manipulation saying she wouldn't invite a friend next time.
Disgusting. She just had to win, had to have the last word. Couldn't just say, oh i'm sorry. You're right, I didn't think. After this I'll ask you first.
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She has to be mentally ill. She just has to be. Who behaves like this with their own children? ******************************************************************** my mother
This is true, except that parrots don't poop on their feet. The only way the bird would have poopy feet is if Kate didn't clean the grate at the bottom of the cage and he walked around in it. ********************************************************************** So birds don't walk on the bottom of their cages? Oh well, you know what I meant. Besides, I don't let our cat (knowingly, don't what he does when we're not around) walk on our countertops. His paws go into his litter box and no amount of self cleaning gets that s%$# off lol.. Imagine if there was a hair in something she ordered at a restaurant?? She won't eat anything the kids have prepared (who probably follow their mother's unrealistic hand washing rules religiously) but she lets a bird roam free range in their kitchen. Yes, she is mentally ill
Part of the head-wreckingness of being the Daughter of a Narcissistic Mother is that these women are quite often nice to us. It's not unremittingly awful.
It can be very confusing though. And of course, if you try to tell them you don't like the way they treat you, they can validly point to these nice things.
The thing is that there's always an underlying tension. You're only ever one wrong word away from it all going wrong. You can never relax. If you don't give her her due respect or adoration, or if you disagree with her, or whatever tiny trigger sets her off, then you get at best a cooling-off, and at worst, a bout of Narcissistic Rage.
You need to play by the rules, and then all is well.
Just never, ever EVER protest any treatment you get. The nice things are a favour doled out to you by her grace and favour. You actually have no rights. And if you try to assert rights - well, the fun is over and you're put back in your box.
Another aspect to Narcissistic Mothers being nice is that it's often a control thing, with an agenda - there is often big strings attached. One big string, of course, is that you start doubting yourself and thinking that you're imagining the dysfunction and abuse
Narcissistic mothers are masters of invalidation. It's part of their gaslighting armoury. They dismiss and undermine your your feelings and emotions to make you feel only what's acceptable to them. This means that they get to treat you the way they want, and manouvre the situation so you don't get to feel the appropriate responses.
It is cruel beyond measure. Of all the abuses heaped upon daughters of narcissistic mothers, this might be the worst. If you can't even trust and own your own feelings - well, what have you left?
Invalidation leaves daughters of narcissistic mothers with a lot of doubt into adulthood, not able to trust their own feelings - how do they know that they're feeling what they think they're feeling, or if it's right? And given that our feelings are our guides - every feeling carries an important message - then we're missing out on that essential system. For instance, if we don't trust our fear, how do we know if we're in danger, and then how can we take the necessary steps to protect ourselves?
Because of this invalidation daughters of narcissistic mothers can grow up believing that they are abnormal or twisted. This is because our totally natural and normal feelings are told to be wrong (either in as many words, or by implication), and so we absorb the message that we're wrong to have them.
This is totally head-wrecking stuff. It can leave you wondering if you're imagining it, if you're over-reacting and so on, and that doubt leaves you open to more abuse. With a Narcissistic Mother nothing is ever straightforward. There's an angle and an agenda to everything. So if she is generous, you can be sure there are big strings attached.
Usually the string is to instil guilt in you or a sense of being beholden to them. Or it's the ability to throw it in your face whenever you protest their treatment of you. It's as if this generosity gave them absolute permission to abuse you.
I knew though that everything they ever did for me was bound to be thrown in my face again in event of a row. "In case of fire, break glass. In case of row, throw this in Danu's face."
It used to be really confusing because I'd be saying, as calmly as I could, that I didn't like X treatment, and they'd be saying, "But we did nice things Y and Z for you."
And if I protested that, they'd say, 'Well are we not allowed to present evidence of when we were nice? You're only concentrating on the bad things'.
And I'd be left silenced. There was a flaw in that logic, but I couldn't put my finger on it. (Not then. I do now. I know it's the logical fallacy of the Red Herring.)
Narcissists are master projectors. No-one is better at looking directly at a person and seeing not who that person is, but who they wish for them to be. When a narcissistic mother looks at her child, she is capable of seeing many things: a source of narcissistic supply, an impediment to her lust for power, the inconvenience of a child’s feelings and needs, a string of intolerable annoyances, unwanted limitations, and a myriad of other possibilities. But never the actual child.
In a narcissist’s family, dysfunctional roles are the norm, and narcissistic mothers are always the producers, directors, and casting agents for the entire production. Children are assigned roles to play long before they are old enough to resist them, and grow up within the confines of these limitations, knowing nothing different exists anywhere. It is typical of parents with personality disorders to select at least one “Golden Child”, who can do no wrong, and at least one Scapegoat, who can do no right.
When deciding (unconsciously) what child will play each role, the narcissistic mother weighs her options on a deep, intuitive level. Which child is the most sensitive? Which child reminds her of a hated parent, or the ex-spouse who stood up to her, or something within herself she cannot accept? Which one asks more of her, either intentionally, or by way of circumstance? Which child expresses unhappiness more often about the unbearable situations the narcissistic mother creates? Which one is more vulnerable, or more outspoken? In short, which child bothers her the most?
This child will be made her Scapegoat.
This Scapegoat will ultimately be made to carry the lion’s share of the family’s blame, shame, anger, and rejection so the rest can more easily retain their patterns of dysfunction. This child will always and forever be the one who is not good enough, even when she excels at something – indeed, especially when she excels. This child will endure more put-downs, sideways remarks and behind-the-back betrayals than the rest of the family put together. This child will endure the wear and tear of the family’s dysfunction in a way that will enable the others to continue looking good despite the family’s toxicity.
Because the narcissist cannot accept her faults, she spends her days trying to convince herself that everything she does is perfect. When her personality disorder causes distress within her family, and her children’s issues begin to reflect this, the narcissistic mother is forced to make a choice. She must either acknowledge that she is making mistakes that are affecting her children negatively, or she must try to convince herself and others that the problems are coming not from her, but another source. And the latter is the option the narcissist always and unfailingly selects. In her mind, by blaming another, she absolves herself of any wrongdoing, and she can continue to believe - and strive to convince others - that she is in fact, perfect. But she must first have someone to blame.
Narcissists are master projectors. No-one is better at looking directly at a person and seeing not who that person is, but who they wish for them to be. When a narcissistic mother looks at her child, she is capable of seeing many things: a source of narcissistic supply, an impediment to her lust for power, the inconvenience of a child’s feelings and needs, a string of intolerable annoyances, unwanted limitations, and a myriad of other possibilities. But never the actual child.
In a narcissist’s family, dysfunctional roles are the norm, and narcissistic mothers are always the producers, directors, and casting agents for the entire production. Children are assigned roles to play long before they are old enough to resist them, and grow up within the confines of these limitations, knowing nothing different exists anywhere. It is typical of parents with personality disorders to select at least one “Golden Child”, who can do no wrong, and at least one Scapegoat, who can do no right.
When deciding (unconsciously) what child will play each role, the narcissistic mother weighs her options on a deep, intuitive level. Which child is the most sensitive? Which child reminds her of a hated parent, or the ex-spouse who stood up to her, or something within herself she cannot accept? Which one asks more of her, either intentionally, or by way of circumstance? Which child expresses unhappiness more often about the unbearable situations the narcissistic mother creates? Which one is more vulnerable, or more outspoken? In short, which child bothers her the most?
This child will be made her Scapegoat.
This Scapegoat will ultimately be made to carry the lion’s share of the family’s blame, shame, anger, and rejection so the rest can more easily retain their patterns of dysfunction. This child will always and forever be the one who is not good enough, even when she excels at something – indeed, especially when she excels. This child will endure more put-downs, sideways remarks and behind-the-back betrayals than the rest of the family put together. This child will endure the wear and tear of the family’s dysfunction in a way that will enable the others to continue looking good despite the family’s toxicity.
Because the narcissist cannot accept her faults, she spends her days trying to convince herself that everything she does is perfect. When her personality disorder causes distress within her family, and her children’s issues begin to reflect this, the narcissistic mother is forced to make a choice. She must either acknowledge that she is making mistakes that are affecting her children negatively, or she must try to convince herself and others that the problems are coming not from her, but another source. And the latter is the option the narcissist always and unfailingly selects. In her mind, by blaming another, she absolves herself of any wrongdoing, and she can continue to believe - and strive to convince others - that she is in fact, perfect. But she must first have someone to blame.
way too much to paste, but for anyone that's interested
"The Scapegoat is the one who assuages the narcissistic mother’s (and ultimately, the whole family’s) guilt, shame, and feelings of inadequacy. The Scapegoat is the shock absorber, the buffer against the harsh reality that there is something wrong with the family picture altogether – the trash bin into which all unwanted matter is cast. The Scapegoat role facilitates the existence of family denial. The narcissistic mother teaches her non-scapegoat children to accept and support the scapegoating of a given child by affirming and rewarding those children’s perceptions that whenever anything is wrong, it is to be the Scapegoat’s fault. Children adapt quickly to these roles, and learn readily that if they do not want to be responsible for something, they need only turn to the Scapegoat, whose case will never be sufficiently or properly heard, and whose “guilt” is so readily welcomed. Once the other family members have mastered this approach, they are much freer to do otherwise objectionable things without suffering negative consequences"
LMAO at my typo in the bird comment, must have been subliminal suggestion. And yes, Sleepless, I was asking you, wondering if birds just have "accidents" like this or whether the claim that this parrot is potty-trained is just another tall Kate tale.
That said, though, the bird just underscores Kate's total fakeness for the cameras. When her own child offered pizza to someone whom she's known for most of her life WITH HER BARE HANDS, Kate had a meltdown, the absurdity of which ultimately took her show OFF THE AIR. But as she walks around her kitchen with this bird perched on her shoulder (I love the people who've been asking, "Is she a pirate?"), which may or may not be defecating, she's all blase, oh yeah, CRAP HAPPENS.
Is her "I don't care" attitude with the bird supposed to show us how she's changed? (As she takes every opportunity to tell us.) Sorry, I don't think anyone changes in that manner or to that extent. Agree completely with the posters who've noted just how confusing this behavior must be to her children. I don't think there's been any real change, I think she's just much more self-conscious now about how she thinks she should be coming across--though she still fails miserably in the "genuine" department.
Does anyone else have doubts about Robert's book going on sale in two days?? I do, but if it does I will be buying it as I did the first one! Didn't watch the show and from what I am reading, glad I didn't.
"If there was poop on Kate's shirt, then the bird pooped."
The bird did poop on her shirt. I saw a freeze frame of it yesterday but can't find it again. It was disgusting. I can't imagine having a bird poop in your kitchen can be safe. I don't know for sure but couldn't it cause salmonella or another disease?
I'm a little baffled after looking at Kate's twitter feed last night. The fans were actually gushing about the ratings. How can they look at those numbers and be impressed?
If this were a regular weekly show, then 2.359 million would be good. But this is supposedly a highly-anticipated special.You'd expect the numbers to be through the roof. And we know that Kate is hoping that this leads to a new show. That makes the rating so not good. Judging by comments on different sites, many people watched to see how big the kids are. Some watched to see if Kate is really as awful as they remember. Some watched out of curiosity and were turned off by Kate's nastiness. Those people would not be long-term viewers. If TLC plans to make a regular show out of this, they will have to look at how many potential long-term viewers are out there. Having a second episode will help them determine that. They can compare ratings from the first and second episode and see how many viewers were lost. Of course, some sheeple (like Ziggy) believe the numbers will go up. Makes me wonder what kind of fantasy world they live in. I think they will drop. If they drop, especially if the ratings are under 2 million, then it's doubtful that a new show will materialize. Ever. Kate wanted a chance to prove herself. She got it. I think she failed.
K+8 premiered in June 2010 with 3.4 million. That number dropped by a million by the time the second episode aired. By August, the show was struggling in the ratings, eventually dropping to a low of 681,000. After 15 months, K+8 was done. This special doesn't have big enough numbers to survive much of a drop in ratings if it were to become a regular thing. Which it won't.
What I want to know is, during the shows opening credits when all the kids get to say their name the boys didn't get to say theirs, the girls did it for them....boys are too yucky to speak?
I agree about the ratings. I do not think they are significant for a special. All she has managed to do is picket some cash, embarrass her kids and prove what a horrible person she is. I see that she has now decided to embrace the hatred in hopes the controversy will bring viewers. Not happening. The children are in trouble.
US Weekly has an article about the gaga ball game, and this comment describes Kate perfectly.
"I agree that you must teach your children that they wont always win, but I disagree with the way Kate does it. She intentionally sets her kids up to not only fail but to have them do it in front of an audience."
Not sure if this link was already posted, but this is an Extra interview on youtube. The rolling of the eyes is annoying: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBW5Tm_I7f4
Admin (191( I agree that what is missing is the dynamic between Jon and Kate. When the conflict was between two adults, it was easier to watch. As awful as Kate's abuse of Jon was, he is an adult. People watched to see him fight back, which he did at times. C'mon, who wasn't thrilled when he told her to take the stick out? I know I was! But seeing her bully the kids? Now, that's different. They are kids, their developing self-esteem is at stake. It's not a level playing field, and it's not fair. All the popular reality shows center on the dynamic between the adults. The Real Housewives centers on the dynamic between the women. The Little Couple centers on the loving relationship between Bill and Jen (the adorable kids are just a bonus). Even 19 Kids is mainly about two parents juggling an absurd number of kids, and now that many of them are adults, they have their own story lines, too. With K+8, that adult dynamic does not exist. It's one adult being horrible to 8 vulnerable kids. That's what made it so painful to watch. And that's why it will never work.
Kylie (197) I am not telling anyone to watch or not to watch. It's a personal choice. The ones who watch share the awfulness with everyone, which reminds us all why we are here. 8 kids are still being treated horribly while the world watches. Kate is a woman who makes money off abusing vulnerable children. That's not right. And that's why we are here.
Had to laugh at this comment from the US article: "u gotta admit she's always trying to get them to be active and not just put them in front of the tv." TFW got them active because there was a camera crew there to film them. By her own admission on Twitter, their first week of summer vacation consisted of multiple viewings of an old Disney movie, plus a trip to the movies, plus a "Full House" marathon. Sure, it's possible that the kids had some outdoor play time. But I'm willing to bet that superfun family gaga ball game was the first and last time it would ever be played by the 8+TFW.
Having read that TFW went to hug M after humiliating her and was rebuffed, my theory is...TFW knew darn well M would push her away, and that's the only reason she did it. What a perfect way to demonstrate how "tough" TFW has it. Without a word being spoken, she could show us: "See? See what I go through? I go to hug her and she pushes me away! So what am I supposed to do? You'd take her phone away, too, wouldn't you?"
"And the idea was, the shark goes to the nearest man and then he'd start poundin' and hollerin' and screamin' and sometimes the shark would go away. Sometimes he wouldn't go away. Sometimes that shark, he looks right into you. Right into your eyes. You know the thing about a shark, he's got... lifeless eyes, black eyes, like a doll's eye. When he comes at ya, doesn't seem to be livin'. Until he bites ya and those black eyes roll over white." Quint
That scene with Mady and the dodgeball game was just deplorable. I guess that, for now, beating her at a game in which TFW has an overwhelming height advantage, is the only place she can best her. Mady has the upper hand in every other way. Right now, they are the same age, emotionally. Did anyone Hesse hear her say something about "a dramatic moment"? I thought she might have been referencing Mady's dramatic pause comment on the View--looked like her last shot was in retaliation for that. This is proven when TFW joined Mady in teasing Cara. It won't be long before the twins surpass her emotional age and physical ability. Then, the fun will really begin.
I am old enough (now) to understand and live beyond the confusion. I am the oldest of seven children. I can tell you exactly which roles we were assigned. I grieve for our scapegoat, who still carries scars and insecurities.
I will certainly follow the link you provided. Thank you.
She has to be mentally ill. She just has to be. Who behaves like this with their own children? ++++++++++++++++ My dil.
+++++++++ Vanessa...good posts. You have perfectly described my spouse, and my dil.
One word away from going wrong...so true. Golden boy is my gs. Scapegoat is my gd.
Nothing I can do to make it better except love her when I see her. Dil complains that I'm "too lax" with the kids, meaning that I'm not mean enough to the girl and I make the boy follow my rules (no hitting his sister, no calling her names, no tattling).
Funny how all the constant chaos at her house doesn't exist when they're with me. The gd happily sings as she explores the garden, the gs plays with his trucks. The gs spends the first few hours testing me to see if I mean it, finds out I am very serious about good behavior, settles down, and we have a nice day.
I'm allowed to only have them rarely because I think dil senses that I allow her daughter to have a peaceful time just being loved, and we can't have that.
.TFW knew darn well M would push her away, and that's the only reason she did it. ++++++++++ Exactly! All manipulation. No emotion shown by TFW is real. It's all gas ligting.
Sleepless in Seattle: They do have bird diapers, they are called flightsuites. From the pic I've seen, it's like a little body suit, with a pad, and the bird can still fly, and all you have to do is change the pad and wash the rest if needed in the wash. If you can't get the bird trained, it might also make the bird feel secure, you know like the body suit things they put on dogs to keep them calm & secure. IF I had bigger birds, I have 2 parakeets and 2 Cockatiels , I would probably get a few, they come in all sorts of designs. I think they are cute. So, my newbie is a baby parakeet, my other 3 are 7 years old this year, Sunnee, replaces my 9year old parakeet, Sassy. And no my birds do not walk around or fly around the house, I have 2 dogs.
But seeing her bully the kids? Now, that's different. They are kids, their developing self-esteem is at stake. It's not a level playing field, and it's not fair.
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Agree completely.
People want conflict there is no question. But it has to be somewhat of a fair fight. You want to see a heavyweight fight with another heavyweight even if one is a big underdog. You don't want to see a heavyweight punch and kick a little kid. Blowouts are not fun to watch in sports and they're not fun to watch on reality T.V.
Exactly! All manipulation. No emotion shown by TFW is real. It's all gas ligting. ********************************************************************************
And this is why I truly believe the die hard klovers are JUST LIKE HER. They WILL see it as poor poor mother. They treat their children just the same way
We haven't heard from Jon about this latest debacle. Curious, don't you think?
If he's avoiding the media, I should think we'd see something along the lines of, "We reached out to their father Jon for his reactions, but he was unavailable…"
PS Very recently, someone posted here as "Empress is Mediocre." Our thoughts don't contradict each other in the slightest, but just wanted to point out that it isn't me.
There is something seriously disturbing about a young person who cries over episodes of the show. I wonder what is going on in their lives that they get so emotionally involved in a 39-year-old divorced woman with eight children. Why are most of her fans teens or young 20-something women? Is it because Kate herself is this age, mentally, emotionally, and they identify with her?
Courtney Finnegan @xcourtneylynnex 4m Rewatching the @Kateplusmy8 special & crying because I love/miss them sooo much! I can't get over how much the kids have grown!! #KatePlus8
She is bat crazy, her saying they forced her to hobble and fed them.
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She didn't say that they forced her. She said she hobbled. There's a difference. If she said she hobbled, she was doing it of her own free will, thus implying she made the ultimate sacrifice, took care of them, fed them so they didn't starve, even if it meant she was in pain.
@MiloandJack: @SiobhanR111 @Kateplusmy8 @TLC I was impressed by the closeness, the affection & interaction the kids had w/ea other! #LovingFamily ======== Well I'm going to try again because I got an error when I hit post.
I watched the Gaga Ball clip and at the end saw one of the girl tups push one of the boys and then go after him swinging. Yup, there was interaction but I didn't see much affection.
It depends on the cage. If it's a flat-bottomed cage lined with paper for small birds like love birds and parakeets, yes, they can walk on the bottom of their cage. Kate has a large cage with a removable grate on the bottom. Birds usually don't walk around on those because it's very uncomfortable for them to get a grip. I've seen the nails on Kate's bird. They need to be trimmed. In this case, walking around on that grate, while not impossible, wouldn't serve the bird any purpose other than to cause him discomfort.
Getofftwitter -- I wouldn't recommend an avian flight suit, but I won't get into the negatives because this isn't a bird blog. If my foster isn't willing to be potty trained, then so be it. I'm, not going to force the issue, nor will I grab him by the feathers and whip him into his cage.
The only reason I mentioned the pooping is because there was a discussion about the bird walking around the counters and landing in the cake. If the bird does this, there's not going to be a happy ending if Kate's cooking on the stove and Zorro lands in a hot skillet. She should know better, but obviously, Kate does what Kate wants to do.
Bitchy, I LOVE Mistresses and am only somewhat ashamed to admit it ;)
I haven't read through the comments yet per the born, but am absolutely appalled that people are calling Mady names on Twitter which should only be applied to her Mother. I did glance through the Daily Fail article with the headline "Kate Gosselin has a problem with letting kids win all the time". If she were human, and a mother to boot, I might agree with her on that to a certain degree. But since I have a problem with this narcissistic, sociopathic, fame whoring, lying grifter I tend not to listen to any of her parenting theories. And besides, it's all damage control. What she should be doing now instead of defending herself is defending her daughter and asking people to please not refer to her in derogatory terms. That's what nearly every parent would do, but then again she's not a parent in my eyes.
I wish some foreign country would offer her some TV work and she'd leave the country and her kids for extended periods of time. Long enough for them to experience a normal life and get some counseling. They need guidance and hopefully it's not too late. I really worry about Cara and the boys. I see a lot of myself in Cara and would never wish the hell I've gone through just trying to see past the depression, self doubt etc.. Of course I don't know if she's feeling that way but it would not surprise me.
TFW playing martyr about having to feed her children while she had a broken toe has got to be a new low. Food? Basic. Human. Need.
You know what would significantly improve my opinion of TFW? If she would invest ONE TWEET in asking her followers - fans and haters alike - to kindly refrain from saying unkind things about her children. She's perfectly happy with what the non-fans say about her - she's as much as admitted that she doesn't care. But for the sake of those children's psyches, it is the very least she can do. She put them in the spotlight, and only she can control this situation. Just one tweet. Something as simple as this: "Glad U loved R show! May I respectfully ask that you not say unkind things about my kids? Hurts my heart:( Thanx!XO"
I haven't read through the comments yet per the born, but am absolutely appalled that people are calling Mady names on Twitter which should only be applied to her Mother =============
The Kate plus 8 FB is just as bad. Many are saying Mady is a brat and worse. Some even said that Mady needs a good beating or that Kate should have smacked her for talking to Kate that way. These were the same people who praised Kate for being a strong mother. They put all the blame on Mady, but in their mind Kate can't do anything wrong.
"You still forced me to hobble about and feed you"Alrighty there Drama Llama! At least you didn't have to drive yourself to work to pay for that food plus do all the other household chores. She literally makes me see red.
Why can't Terri Irwin build TFW her own exhibit at the zoo? She can take the bird with her and Bindi could toss in some bird seed and water a couple of times a day for both the bird and Skeletor. The kids could come visit a couple of times a year and TLC can film it. That would be the only update specials I'd be interested in watching.
I see Kate just took the twins to yet another concert. Didn't she just take them to a movie last week too? Never hear her talk about taking the younger kids any where fun.
Kelly said... 83 Bitchy, I LOVE Mistresses and am only somewhat ashamed to admit it ;)
I haven't read through the comments yet per the born, but am absolutely appalled that people are calling Mady names on Twitter which should only be applied to her Mother. &&&&&&&&&&
It is appalling and it should be considered child abuse that she's put Mady out there to be picked at by vultures. WTF!?
Kate has done nothing for the last how many years but whine about how she is cyber bullied. She was so desperate to try to stop it that she associated with vile thugs and just may find herself in some trouble for this conspiracy. Bitch and moan, moan and bitch, bitch and moan.... "I'm an adult bully victim..... wahhhhhhhhhhhh"
But when she throws Mady to the wolves and exposes her to cyber bullying, Kate calls that supporting her kids. What bullying? {crickets}
A sane, loving mother does NOT do this to their child. She is teaching them that their dignity can be bought for the right price. Kate doesn't like being cyberbullied when there's nothing in it for her. For a nice paycheck from TLC though, it is perfectly acceptable and a good way to capture buzz.
Holy back alley bar brawl, Batman! Thanks to your posts, I rewatched the GaGa ball ending and holy shit! A brawl broke out, and Kate is freaking oblivious to it.
Here's what looks like what happened- Kate takes Mady out and the stands clear. Girl tup goes up to Kate to celebrate with her, and sees of of the boys pointing in Mady's face (probably taunting that she lost), and she shoves the SHIT out of him! Then Cara rushes in to break up the fight, and the scene is cropped (on purpose?) so that you can't really sees the spillover brawling that even more tups get into, just arms flailing and more shoving.
But to Kate's point, if the ball wasn't a "hard" ball, but a "squishy" ball, then how could that possibly scar someone?????
If the bird does this, there's not going to be a happy ending if Kate's cooking on the stove and Zorro lands in a hot skillet. She should know better, but obviously, Kate does what Kate wants to do.
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If that happened, and it very well could, I wonder if she'd mention it. Nala ate a stuffed animal, and they had to film that for part of an episode, Shoka ate plastic wrap from the garbage and she couldn't restrain herself from putting it on twitter, so it's likely she'd have to announce that, too.
But I digress... Kate's carelessness is going to cause someone or some animal an injury one of these days that she won't be able to laugh off. Flinging babies into their crib, spanking them so hard that she has to phone Jon to come home, leaving them caged in their cribs are the actions of someone who has serious anger management problems. She apparently drives like a freaking maniac, too. Does she drive when she's angry? That's a scary thought.
These are just things we know about. What hasn't leaked out, I'd like to know? The woman is in desperate need of therapy. Years of it. Why does she have such a reckless disregard for other living things? I know it's just how she is, but I still don't understand that brain glitch in narcissists. NASA researchers would be perplexed by the mechanics of it.
And yet this abomination of a mother STILL manages to get her fugly mug on television for yet another play-by-play recording of her abusive behavior AND get paid for it. WTF is wrong with this picture?
Winsomeone said... 91 I see Kate just took the twins to yet another concert. Didn't she just take them to a movie last week too? Never hear her talk about taking the younger kids any where fun. ____________
That's a retweet. People are retweeting her old tweets today for some reason.
Winsomeone said... 91 I see Kate just took the twins to yet another concert. Didn't she just take them to a movie last week too? Never hear her talk about taking the younger kids any where fun.
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I checked her TL, and the concert tweet was from March 3rd. Someone retweeted it.
Auntie Ann, I agree. Years of therapy are needed and yet, here she is getting her face on television over and over again. I do not get it either. Time for reality shows to go away! Long ago was the time for the Gosselins to stop and get the help they still need.
Here's what looks like what happened- Kate takes Mady out and the stands clear. Girl tup goes up to Kate to celebrate with her, and sees of of the boys pointing in Mady's face (probably taunting that she lost), and she shoves the SHIT out of him! Then Cara rushes in to break up the fight, and the scene is cropped (on purpose?) so that you can't really sees the spillover brawling that even more tups get into, just arms flailing and more shoving.
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When Kate said to Mady, this is dramatics - IT's FAKE, one of the tups (Hannah?) yells "No it isn't. It happened to me!".
No matter. Kate was in her glory that she'd won and the kids were fighting about. Divide and conquer as usual. Mommie D wins again as usual.
Not that it's a big issue but that was not a "squishy" ball. It made a sound when it hit the walls. Squishy balls, like Nerf balls, don't make any sound when they hit a wall, hard balls do.
Kate frustrates me so much I'd like to pop her one.
And yet this abomination of a mother STILL manages to get her fugly mug on television for yet another play-by-play recording of her abusive behavior AND get paid for it. WTF is wrong with this picture? 94
Does anyone remember either a tweet or interview where Kate specifically said something about how we should not judge parents or don't judge parents or we should support all parents?
I know she's said that I just can't remember where or when.
"Hobbling Harridan" - thanks, AuntieAnn! Maybe we should adopt "HH" as the new "TFW!"
It's been said Shoka was glimpsed a few times during the special, but nothing more than that? Isn't he HH's 9th child? A friend and companion to all? Or has he been relegated to second-class citizen since Zorro flew on to the scene? Like everyone else TFW kicks to the curb, perhaps Shoka just didn't know how to help her.
Not that it's a big issue but that was not a "squishy" ball. It made a sound when it hit the walls. Squishy balls, like Nerf balls, don't make any sound when they hit a wall, hard balls do.
Kate frustrates me so much I'd like to pop her one.
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Well, she collects them so Kate thinks she's an expert on balls.
I think what might have happened to Mady wasn't by the ball, but looks more like she twisted her knee when she turned and fell to dodge the ball. I've only watched the clip so I don't know what was said about it afterwards.
Oh and if you want to pop her one, you'll have get to the back of line.
Shoka ate plastic wrap from the garbage and she couldn't restrain herself from putting it on twitter, so it's likely she'd have to announce that, too. ======== Ah yes AuntieAnn, that is what was originally tweeted. After the backlash it seems that Shoka is actually the most talented dog ever to live because he was able to unwrap every piece of banana bread and eat only the bread and none of the plastic wrap. How do I know this? Because TFW said so and in magic Kateland she found every piece of plastic wrap INTACT because in magic Kateland the wind doesn't even blow to carry away the evidence of Shoka's great unwrapping abilities.
The ratings might have been OK (not overwhelmingly great for a much anticipated special) but I don't think she pulled in quite the demographic that TLC was looking for. Over half of those that watched seemed to be under 18. Sponsors like the older demographic that will spend money on their products.
Does anyone remember either a tweet or interview where Kate specifically said something about how we should not judge parents or don't judge parents or we should support all parents? --------------------------------
This might be what your talking about. Kate wrote a blog post on her website titled Walk a Day In My Heels. This is only part of what she says:
"It’s time for all of us to make a change whereby all parents truly stick together! Period! No more contests, no more darts; just support, help, and concern for each other!"
It was posted here in full. This is the link. Comment #129 by I took a bullet.
I noticed in a the dodge-ball clip Leah said to Mady "At least you'll be happy now with your friend here" or similar. Sounds like Mady casts a pall on a lot of their 'fun."If Mady is treated like this often by Mommy no wonder she's unhappy and grumpy.Embarrassing in front of her friend, too.Imagine Kate going along on all the twins' outings and monitors all their phone calls/texts.
Did kate say that when a friend comes over, she gets their phone, iPad or whatever and confiscates it?
I can't answer since I didn't watch, but iif she did, what reason would she have for doing it? What is she preventing that they couldn't do with the friend's phone when they're away from the house? I don't understand her logic about this - or much of anything for that matter.
@Lori_Lovin_Life: @Kateplusmy8 OMG! THNK U 4 Being the GREAT MOM U R! U need to teach EVERY PARENT how to be a "PARENT" & not the child! LOVED your new show @Lori_Lovin_Life: @Kateplusmy8 yes, u r SOOO right! Continue to be that #example & may God give you #STRENGTH to deal w/ #hormones & #attitudes! @Lori_Lovin_Life: @Kateplusmy8 you are doing a GREAT JOB #teaching #great #morals #lessons #Ethics #integrity ! You possess much #Godly #wisdom & #FAVOR ======== I can only hope that this woman is being sarcastic because if she's not, just wow!
Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said... 110 AuntieAnn, that's gotta be one very long line by now! Maybe we should organize a game of Gaga Ball. ******* Team uniform- muumuus and Crocks! Pearls optional.
The winning coach gets a cooler of Rumspringa poured down her neck!
Rhymes with Witch said... 111 I don't really care! It was broken and you still forced me to hobble out and feed you!" The kids FORCED the bitch to feed them, yeah, right Kate! 22
The way she thinks is truly frightening. **** Was this an attempt at sarcasm on Kate's part? Did Kate really say that the tups are just starting to be able to serve themselves cereal? One more for those who watched- Kate says she has to clothe the kids, and a girl says she clothes herself, right? Does the girl not understand the difference? In other words, at 10, is some degree of abstract thought normal?
NJGal51 Check out @Lori_Lovin_Life TL. OMG - w/over the top love and positivity to just about every reality and tv person there is - from housewives and soaps to Big Brother to TFW. And she #s everything! LOL
One more for those who watched- Kate says she has to clothe the kids, and a girl says she clothes herself, right?
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It sounds like one of them is confusing the word "dress" with "clothe," the latter meaning to purchase clothing for them. She responds by saying she clothes herself, and she's saying that she dresses herself.
"Team uniform- muumuus and Crocks! Pearls optional."
Was this an attempt at sarcasm on Kate's part? 112
I think it was part and parcel of her martyr complex. Her attempts at sarcasm are much more obvious and always fall flat, not to mention the accompanying cackle.
I posted this a couple of hours ago but don't see it, so I'm sending it again: Mel said... 77 ''I also think that TFW trying to hug Mady after was Tfw trying to soothe herself for what she knew was jerk behavior.
It wasn't about Mady and her feelings, it was about TFW and *her* feelings.'' ~~~~~~~~~ I was watching a clip somewhere of TCFW's 'take down' of Maddy, and noticed the shoving of one of the boys by two of the younger girls but couldn't quite figure out what was happening in the background as WOS was trying to hug Mady. I was glad that I had dvr'd the episode so I could check out what was going on. I paused at the moment one of the boys slid off the wall and approached WOS and Mady and was very surprised to see something I hadn't noticed before.
At the moment Mady has her hands on her hips, WOS has her hands behind her with her hands balled into FISTS! As WOS starts to walk toward Mady, I was so glad that I knew Mady wasn't hit with one of those fists.
A few frames later as WOS attempts to hug Mady, WOS is smiling when Mady escapes from her...another thing I didn't notice before. It seemed to me that WOS was thrilled w/herself for not only 'winning' at the stupid game, but at the added bonus of REALLY upsetting her child! She is despicable!! !!!!!!
Rhymes with Witch said... 111 I don't really care! It was broken and you still forced me to hobble out and feed you!" The kids FORCED the bitch to feed them, yeah, right Kate! 22
The way she thinks is truly frightening.
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Yes, Rhymes, it is very frightening! She said in Michael's? that one of the tup girls voice sounds like a machine gun coming at her!! Then did she do that stupid rubbing her head and warbling her voice and rolling her eyes. She looked so crazy!
If you say someone's voice is coming at you like a machine gun, and your reacting like you are, YOU ARE MENTALLY ILL! You need meds, therapy, HELP!
Tucker's Mom said... 114 Team uniform- muumuus and Crocks! Pearls optional.
The winning coach gets a cooler of Rumspringa poured down her neck! _____________
We'll need to recruit some little kids that we can easily beat because "nobody lets me win" and I think we can teach them such a great life lesson by trouncing them mercilessly in a game of Gaga Ball.
Another thing I wanted to mention about the broken "foot" Kate said "I broke my foot and I still hobbled out and fed you" to the kids.
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That is absolutely disgusting. How many of us mothers have been sicker than a dog, having been the lucky recipient of the flu or other bug that was passed around by our children? Do we cast it up to our kids that we took care of them ***** Couldn't agree more! I still remember the time when my son was an infant. There was a terrible flu strain going around that year, and wouldn't you know it, the entire household came down with it. (We were living with my folks at the time.) My son didn't get it, but he did get an ear infection. No one to help out, so I had to get him to the doctor. I remember throwing up in the examining room before the doctor came in. Gross! I felt like the walking dead.
I don't hold this over my son's head - 'look what your mom had to go through to get you proper medical care!' It's part of being a parent and afterward you think, "thank goodness we got through that!"
TFW is the biggest baby, and seriously should never have had any children. She's not mentally able to handle it.
OT. My brother and SIL have received their Big Bang Theory Clue game and they are beyond thrilled (huge BBT fans). Thanks for the recommendation. I love this blog.
(Not a rhetorical question…I'm seriously wondering why it is that the media hasn't included his reactions --or lack of same. I asked earlier, but I'm thinking my question may have gotten lost in a posting flurry.)
There was an old woman who lived in a shoe. She had so many children, she didn't know what to do; She gave them some broth without any bread; Then whipped them all soundly and put them to bed.
New Christian Version:
There was an old woman Who lived in a shoe, She had so many children, And loved them all, too. She said, "Thank you Lord Jesus, For sending them bread." Then kissed them all gladly and sent them to bed.
Are these people serious, or are they just yanking some chains?
patricia degrave @PatriciaDegrave 1h @Kateplusmy8 What is ur phone number? I have to ask u some questions about ur family !
patricia degrave @PatriciaDegrave 1h @DdissidentT @Kateplusmy8 @GosselinBook no i wanted to ask her a few question and i also wanted to know if i could meet them in person!
savethe8, I did not label anyone. I carefully used the words "seems like" and "reminds me of". Did I label any kid? NO. And I meant what I said. I am sorry you misunderstood.
Totally agree with you. Everything she says and does is over the top and exaggerated to showcase her "supermom" qualities. She controls every morsel of food that goes in their mouths so she can control them. Probably why kids are now "allowed" to pour cereal at age 10. Her controlling issues have not led to a maturity level with the tups, as she always wanted to appear of having to do so much, when clearly the kids could have poured cereal years ago.
Her chore chart clearly shows the kids are very capable of doing many things each day, yet they can't pour a bowl of cereal- seriously? She is clearly a mean narcissistic control freak who does everything to make herself look like the poor overworked mom, when that clearly is not the case.
Does she transport or make arrangements for one single kid, other than Cara, to see that they get to participate in outside activities outside of the compound.? Never - all about Kate's convenience. Based on her premise that SHE DOES IT ALL HERSELF, when this is clearly not true. What a liar.
She clearly centers everything around her twisted control and convenience.
Some random thoughts that I'm not sure have been discussed: – When she was fixing breakfast she basically admitted that the only time she cooks a big breakfast is on school mornings and that on non school days they basically eat later if at all. – The big breakfast that she served was comprised of toast and one very small spoonful of scrambled eggs and one sausage. Served on a paper plate of course. – When she was serving the children kale chips, they only got three or four apiece served in a cupcake liner. – Whenever they were shown eating the children were at the table, however Kate was always standing in the kitchen behind the counter and never eating with them. – There are an awful lot of notes and lists posted for someone who claims not to have any help. – A previous poster was correct in noting that some of the items on the chore list required an adult to sign off upon completion. – Inspector gadget was also listed on the chore chart. – No sign of the chore jar that she blogged about on the stir. – The body zone (where she took them on spring break for the sports activities), looked as though it was closed to other customers and the Gosselin's had it all to themselves. If it was actually filmed during spring break , than this certainly was not an inexpensive "fun thing". – The older twins were allowed to invite friends to the sextuplets party (which the little kids were very upset about), but only because it adhered to Kates manipulative agenda. The twins friends were only welcome if they agreed to help out at the party by manning the booths. – During Kate's talking head segment on the couch where she was discussing each individual child, she would follow every I love so-and-so with a gigantic BUT and then proceed to insult each child with the exception of Joel whom she claimed is perfect. – The commercial for next weeks episode of the party showing Kate in her clown wig trailed by Deanna and Jamie, who exactly is with the children? – The children do an awful lot of pushing, hitting, and shoving, considering she claims everything is happy happy joy joy in that house. – I love how every time Kate claimed something or spewed forth a falsehood, the children were quick to correct her, or the edit would show the exact opposite of what she was claiming. -next weeks previews showed a bouncy house at the party, for 10-year-olds! -For those who are not seen the show yet, consider yourself warned. It was far worse than I ever imagined it could be. She's a very cruel woman and the children are clearly not very happy.
Tucker's Mom said... 93 Holy back alley bar brawl, Batman! Thanks to your posts, I rewatched the GaGa ball ending and holy shit! A brawl broke out, and Kate is freaking oblivious to it.
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That's because the filming crew and production assistants were there and as far as she was concerned they could 'stop playing Making A Tv Show' and watch her kids for her.
Or it was the job of the proprietors of the facility. After all, "society" created the drugs that she took to get pregnant so it is 'society's responsibility to take care of them.'
Remona, can you take a picture of her balled fists and put it on your computer with a link so we could see it or if anyone else can that taped it.
Oh, my, if she did that right then, there is no telling how many times her fists have landed on those kids. Isn't a closed fist much worse than an open hand!
Dear God in Heaven, Please intervene on these kids behalf! This abuse of her children is heartbreaking!
So this "Inspector Gadget" job seems to be a whistle blower -- hmmm, is that considered "building up" or "tearing down?"
It'd be funny if when the kids' books come out in 20 years (and they will), one of the kids reveals they threw that game so Mom would win and not be humiliated on TV. They're used to not having their own needs, so why not just give the narcissist what she wants?
I don't know if I'm up for Gaga Ball, because my legs bruise too easily. Even my striped sweat socks won't protect them (Dwindle, mine are orange and blue, which are the Mets' colors). But I'll supply snacks in divided plates. Grapes, crackers and cheese squares for all!
She's a very cruel woman and the children are clearly not very happy. 138
She would be perfectly cast as Cruella de Ville. One wanted Dalmatian puppies for $, the other wanted HOM for money. Both are cruel and evil. Evil is not a word I use lightly.
lukebandit said... 140 ''Remona, can you take a picture of her balled fists and put it on your computer with a link so we could see it or if anyone else can that taped it. Oh, my, if she did that right then, there is no telling how many times her fists have landed on those kids. Isn't a closed fist much worse than an open hand!'' ~~~~~~~~~~~ I would if I could, but I'm only computer semi-literate. I still haven't figured out how do get something recorded on dvr to go frame by frame! You wouldn't believe how many times I paused then backed up, then paused again when trying to figure out what the kids were doing!
The only clue I can give if someone else wants to do a screen shot is that it is the frame where Mady has her hands on her hips just before WOS starts walking toward Mady...that is the second that WOS has her hands behind her back balled into fists.
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Kate is really taking a beating all over the net for her face. General consensus is that she looks manly and tranny like. It's all her own doing. Between the excessive tanning and many facial procededures, she did this to herself.
I just saw a brief interview given by Kevin & Jodi Kreider a few yrs. back. They predicted what is happening today to the children. Back then they asked the public to just "stop watching" their nieces and nephews so this would all stop. They also said that Jon and Kate would never stop filming on their own. Jodi and Kevin pleaded to the public to "stop." Very enlightened and sincere people. They saw too many things, including the vow renewal, staged for ratings. I say, "Please bring back well performed scripted television."
Does anyone know why Jon is or was trending on Yahoo today? I clicked it but didn't see anything new. I have an ID but haven't used in a long time and forgot how.
lukebandit said... 140 Remona, can you take a picture of her balled fists and put it on your computer with a link so we could see it or if anyone else can that taped it. ---------------------------- Lukebandit,
I can't get a still, but it is at 2:07 of http://www.thewrap.com/kate-gosselin-would-never-throw-a-game-especially-not-against-her-kids-exclusive-video/
What I did was let the video run until Mady starts holding her knee. Stop it somewhere around there. Then hit play, and immediately hit stop. It will advance only part of a second. Repeat hitting play/stop until you see M with her hands on her hips and K with loose fists at her side/slightly behind her back. It didn't look to me like K actually intended to hit M, but K did look angry. After that K flung her arms out to her side with her palms up, as if she were surrendering, and then tried to hug M.
The kid melee some have described is right after that. I can't see much of it, but did see Jenna running over to stop it. It's interesting that K treated Jenna much as she treated Jamie and Ashley - as her servant!
Does anyone know if the online video is cropped from the video that is actually shown on the show? Other posters seem to have seen things I'm not seeing, and I'm wondering if they were on the edge of the frame and were cropped out.
I wonder if the reason the tups are just learning to pour their own cereal is because of how she monitors their food intake. God forbid they should pour themselves more cereal than she would normally allow. Gotta keep them small. She probably makes them measure the exact amount of cereal they pour and write it on a chart for her to inspect. And of course she will have Inspector Gadget monitoring everyone to make sure they are entering the exact amount they took. Of course, she could be afraid that some cereal will be spilled and she wouldn't know who to blame.
Sparkle, any update on the BV situation? I'm curious!
chefsummer said... 146 ''Maddy did push Kate and she let Maddy get away with-(even if she deserved 2b pushed) Kate should've done something.'' ~~~~~~~~ I didn't see an actual shove by Mady. What I saw was WOS making a (smiling) show of trying to hug Mady after humiliating her and Mady attempting to escape from WOS hug by pushing away her ARMS, not wanting faux sympathy! Maybe I'm wrong but to ME, that isn't Mady shoving anyone.
Well it's official. I colored my hair today an my hairdresser mentioned that there is a tell all book coming out about Kate , the one she has been fighting to stop. I was shocked because she's not all that interested in Kate or her family! So I guess Radar is helping Robert in advertising the book.
Does anyone know where I can purchase the book day after tomorrow?? I bought the last one at Amazon.
I did the stop/start trick again on the wrap (gaga ball) video, and this time I stopped at slightly different places. This time I saw K's fists behind her back and saw a girl tup shove a boy tup (think it was C), then saw her arm pointed accusingly at the melee that she caused (it was off screen, but apparently she shoved him into someone else, because that's where Jenna ran to). So once again a "golden child" causes a problem and then blames it on someone else!
And what was up with her forehead 3rd photo. Deanna filled in the wrinkles with darker foundation? Thought you were supposed to fill in lighter. Not that I know anything..I like my wrinkles and the fact that my face moves.
The kid melee some have described is right after that. I can't see much of it, but did see Jenna running over to stop it. It's interesting that K treated Jenna much as she treated Jamie and Ashley - as her servant!
Does anyone know if the online video is cropped from the video that is actually shown on the show? Other posters seem to have seen things I'm not seeing, and I'm wondering if they were on the edge of the frame and were cropped out. --------------------------------------
Actually, it was Cara who went over to stop the kids from fighting, You can Jenna going over to Mady, and Cara's back is in the frame,
I just rewatched the recording of the show that I have, and the clip that's been shown online is exactly the same as what was shown on TV. Nothing was cropped as far as I can tell.
Speaking of her looking like a Tranny I saw this look the other day:
Jeff Hiller @boomboomhiller Jun 20 Hey @drewdroege -Kate Gosselin stole your look. pic.twitter.com/cY0NIpzDTB
Not sure who drewoege is, but he is followed by Allison Argrim. Too funny!
Oh, and I went to the Kateplus 8 facebook page. If you go to a page it tells you which of those friends like that page (trying to convince you to like it I guess). Anyway, one of my 30-something cousin's likes it. I'm so disappointed. She's such a reasonable, loving mom. Go figure.
Math Girl said... 154 ''What I did was let the video run until Mady starts holding her knee. Stop it somewhere around there. Then hit play, and immediately hit stop. It will advance only part of a second. Repeat hitting play/stop until you see M with her hands on her hips and K with loose fists at her side/slightly behind her back. It didn't look to me like K actually intended to hit M, but K did look angry. After that K flung her arms out to her side with her palms up, as if she were surrendering, and then tried to hug M.
The kid melee some have described is right after that. I can't see much of it, but did see Jenna running over to stop it. It's interesting that K treated Jenna much as she treated Jamie and Ashley - as her servant!
Does anyone know if the online video is cropped from the video that is actually shown on the show? Other posters seem to have seen things I'm not seeing, and I'm wondering if they were on the edge of the frame and were cropped out.'' ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Math Girl, I watched the clip at Gawker and in order to figure out exactly what was happening, I went to my recorded on dvr of the episode. I do think that some of the 'action' may have been cropped out on some of the sites, because I didn't have that problem on my recorded episode.
I dvr almost everything I watch...especially anything concerning TCFW because so many on this blog see things that I miss when watching on tv so I can go to my dvr and see what others are discussing.
“Hear me very clearly: If there was another way to singly support eight children, you would not know this name and I would be on an island, and so would they. You would never hear from us again.”
Allow me to translate that from Famewhore-ese to English: “Hear me very clearly: If there is another way to pimp out my eight children on television, please tell me, because the money I’ll make off this 2-hour TLC special will only pay for 3 weeks of Botox injections and half a pack of polyester My Little Pony hair. I’d skipper a boat named The Minnow and take them all on a fateful 3-hour tour if it could get me a 22-episode reality show called Gosselin’s Island. When do you want to start filming? I can have the kids on a boat in 90 minutes.” &&&&&&&&&&
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha! My Little Pony hair! Michael K. never lets us down!
She's so full of shit. There absolutely IS another way to raise 8 kids. It's called not living in a $1.2 million dollar mansion, not having 3 cars, not sending the kids to private school. People do it every day and raise fine, productive, happy, healthy adults and human beings.
Upon seeing one of the younger girls shove Collin after he was taunting Mady for losing & another girl joining in the shoving & pushing, I thought that was an odd reaction as the taunting wasn't directed at them & Mady didn't even notice him, it appears. It seems these girls have a lot of anger directed at Collin. Why are they still using their fists to push & shove people at age 10? That's all kate's fault! What poor parenting skills she has.
Kate Gosselin@Kateplusmy8·1 hr So entertaining to see my kids negotiating...Mady&Caras old toys-->Little kids want them-->Willing to pay! #GosselinTradingPost #LifeSkills
And Milo has gone bonkers with these:
Fired Up 4 Kate@MiloandJack·55 mins @Kateplusmy8 LOL Tell me WHO is driving the hardest bargain there? Who has that ability like Mom 2get the best deal? :)
Fired Up 4 Kate@MiloandJack·56 mins @Kateplusmy8 Are they paying N real money...or are M & C negotiating chores! LOL
Fired Up 4 Kate@MiloandJack·53 mins @Kateplusmy8 Are M & C cleaning out the closet? Disposing of the toys in their long lost youth...you know..they are such big girls now? :)
Fired Up 4 Kate@MiloandJack·27 mins @Kateplusmy8 U just said U negotiate issues between kids all the time...looks like they all are learning from the #BestNegotiator >> MOM!
Fired Up 4 Kate@MiloandJack·27 mins @Kateplusmy8 Are the girls better at this...or the boys? #negotiating
That "Hear me very clearly" lead-in to HH's what-else-can-I-do speech is so freaking defensive. Doth the lady protest too much?
Before she was a, heaven help us, TV personality, she was a nurse. She was lucky enough to have chosen a recession-proof career. Plenty of jobs to be had in all manner of situations - hospital, clinic, doctor's office, billing from home, advice nurse, etc. During the school year, her kids are out of the equation for about 8 hours a day. She could get a job in a heartbeat. A well-paying one at that. Could there be challenges to it? Sure. There might be some schedule juggling here and there. But this woman managed to drop everything and run to NYC for about a month for CA! So she seems to have a knack for schedule juggling when it's to suit her agenda.
Oh, how I wish one reporter would have the guts to press the issue about her not getting a "real" job, and present the facts as we know them!
And Milo has gone bonkers with these =======================
Add this latest one to the list:
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 2m @Kateplusmy8 "TWO bananas & U get my undivided attn 4the nite...I'll stay right on your shoulder" #ZorrosTradingPost Any takers?? :)
She might as well tweet "Kate, I'm here!! See me waving' at ya! Pay attention to ME!"
She tweeted this the other day. She must have been talking about herself.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · Jun 20 Every family has ONE WEIRD relative. If you don't know WHO it is, it's probably YOU! LOL
I see Seaworld has a propaganda commercial out about how it's essential they do this work to save the whales.
I'm sorry what does a whale jumping up in the air and splashing an audience with his tail have to do with conservation?
This is like any exploitation, they justify it because it's educational or whatever other lame reason. But you can't justify something that is fundamentally wrong no matter how hard they try and the public gets it.
Kate Gosselin@Kateplusmy8·1 hr So entertaining to see my kids negotiating...Mady&Caras old toys-->Little kids want them-->Willing to pay! #GosselinTradingPost #LifeSkills
And Milo has gone bonkers with these:
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Can you imagine living with someone like that? She makes the "real" Gladys look like an socially shy introvert. I wonder if her family (if she has one) sticks fingers in their ears and says, "shutupshutupshut up with the hundred questions."
And then the sheeple have the um, balls to say that the non-fans are nosy and if Kate wants to reveal something she will because it's none of our business. I wonder if Milo doesn't secretly drive them nuts, too.
Suzy said... 166 Upon seeing one of the younger girls shove Collin after he was taunting Mady for losing & another girl joining in the shoving & pushing, I thought that was an odd reaction as the taunting wasn't directed at them & Mady didn't even notice him, it appears. It seems these girls have a lot of anger directed at Collin. Why are they still using their fists to push & shove people at age 10? That's all kate's fault! What poor parenting skills she has.
Suzy
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This is what she has reaped. From day one, J and K ignored the pushing, hitting, fighting amongst the kids. She controls EVERYTHING except that. Which reminds me, I was thinking, can you imagine controlling EVERYTHING in the house in order to make it perfect with 8 kids living there? "Masterminding" chores and to-do lists for everything from recording chickenshit to vacuuming needles to how to do this and that? No wonder she's exhaustedish!
Kate Gosselin@Kateplusmy8·1 hr So entertaining to see my kids negotiating...Mady&Caras old toys-->Little kids want them-->Willing to pay! #GosselinTradingPost #LifeSkills
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Oh why doesn't she just shut up already with the lifeskills bullshit. She shouldn't even be allowed to raise a potted plant.
Whatever happened to just handing down your old toys? That's ridiculous! Reminds me of the time TFW went into the twins' room for the first time in months, apparently, and threw all sorts of stuff down the stairs. The twins were not much older than the tups are now
I think KK was getting a sick thrill out of beating Maddy and I think she got a sick thrill out of hurting her as well.
Maddy did push KK it was all most like she shoved her. ~~~~~~~~~~ What I said @557 was ''I didn't see an actual shove by Mady. What I saw was WOS making a (smiling) show of trying to hug Mady after humiliating her and Mady attempting to escape from WOS hug by pushing away her ARMS, not wanting faux sympathy! Maybe I'm wrong but to ME, that isn't Mady shoving anyone.'' I just watched it again and in my opinion Mady pushed TCFW's ARMS that were around Mady. To ME that is not a shove, that was Mady trying to escape from the idiot's fake hug.
You see things differently. OK. We're not going to change each others minds, so I'm moving on.
This trading post twittersode is letting us know the kids are with her. It also scans with the "piecing and patching" storyline. See, the kids aren't spoiled rotten - the littles want their older siblings' toys.
Then again, she may be home alone with the bird...
I had a different take on C.'s role in the post-game melee. I thought he was standing behind/with M, not taunting her. And I didn't think the tup who shoved him was angry at him, I thought she did it out of pure meanness, to get her siblings into trouble and then gloat.
Even though I interpreted the details differently, I agree that there is a really bad dynamic in that family, and that J and K encouraged it by letting the kids go feral at a young age. ---------- Auntie, can I please have a dunce cap for confusing Jenna and Cara? Purple preferred, no glitter necessary.
Why can't Mady and Cara just GIVE their younger siblings their old toys. They're not using them. Geez!
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I can't believe it. Some family. Most kids just willingly hand off their old toys to their kid brothers and sisters. Another wonderful learned behavior from their tight-wad mother and her consignment issues. Imagine taking clothes you've grifted and selling them to get cash on top of the freebies. Good God.
Sigh.
Looking forward to your recap of the "ratings-gold" special Admin...
And what ever happened to pay it forward? That's a "life lesson."
I was the oldest. I get it, the younger ones get free access to all your stuff. That was a bit annoying as a kid. I had no stream of free stuff flowing down to me. But it does eventually go the other way. You'll get stuff too especially in adulthood. Sigh, and no matter, because it's just NICE to give your siblings things without anything in return but a smile.
I just watched it again and in my opinion Mady pushed TCFW's ARMS that were around Mady. To ME that is not a shove, that was Mady trying to escape from the idiot's fake hug. -------------------------- I watched in stop-motion (but unfortunately not frame-by-frame) and that's what I saw too. M pushed K's arms away. K was invading M's personal space so she (K) wouldn't look like the witch she is. Too late.
I had a different take on C.'s role in the post-game melee. I thought he was standing behind/with M, not taunting her. And I didn't think the tup who shoved him was angry at him, I thought she did it out of pure meanness, to get her siblings into trouble and then gloat. ---------- Auntie, can I please have a dunce cap for confusing Jenna and Cara? Purple preferred, no glitter necessary.
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Oh heck, they look pretty good with glitter. You should see Flimsy's , NJGal's and mine. They double as party hats.
Where does Kate get off bragging about teaching her kids about winning when the end result is a brawl and basically a cheater's win. What if Mady really was hurt? She should have called a time-out at least and taken a look at her daughter's knee instead of taking advantage of her injury, fake or not.
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LMAO at this typo
TFW had to hobble out and feed the kids? What about the many moms who are wheel chair bound, and still cook supper for their family,every day? She sure never thinks of anyone but herself.
Sad but true said... 8
Sleepless In Seattle said... 6
SIS - Kate has an open tray on the counter with a small upright tree branch attached to it.
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. . .Kate claims the bird is potty trained, and if she's not fibbing, then the bird won't poop on that play gym, but will only use his cage to do his business.
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But then how do you explain the poop that apparently was visible on the back of Kate's shit at some point? I didn't watch but did notice this comment on her Twitter:
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 · Jun 19
I DID? Sadly crap happens! RT @Mrs_Thood: Watching #KatePlus8 and @Kateplusmy8 has bird poop down her back lol #thestruggleisreal
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Okay everyone put down the rumspringa and wipe off your screens. I know it was a typo but it's too funny to ignore.
How DO you explain the poop that apparently was visible on the back of Kate's shit? lol!!
Seriously though. I have to wonder why the bird is allowed to freely roam/fly around that kitchen. It's an accident waiting to happen in more ways than one.
She's raising her kids the same way...just throw caution to the wind and hope they all make it through alive.
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Denise @Mydmaxx 2h
@Paige_Kate8fan @Kateplusmy8 I recorded so I can watch over & over again too !
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Why would you want to watch the workings of a dysfunctional family and bad parenting over and over again? Sheeple psychology intrigues me.
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I went to some of the Sheep's timelines from last night and they are baffling. They just don't see what most people see.
OrangeCrusher1 said... 10
So if Mady's friend was invited, and apparently without informing Mady, does that mean that between the 8 children there is only 1 friend close enough to be invited to the outing? This is beyond sad and pathetic.
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Good point! Or was it because TFW was afraid M would act out and thought she may not if her friend were there.
TFW turned it around on her saying, oh next time I shouldn't invite her?
And even then Mady responded maturely, saying, no I didn't say that. I said next time ask me first.
TFW continued with the manipulation saying she wouldn't invite a friend next time.
Disgusting. She just had to win, had to have the last word.
Couldn't just say, oh i'm sorry. You're right, I didn't think. After this I'll ask you first.
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She has to be mentally ill. She just has to be. Who behaves like this with their own children?
This is OT, but it relates to Kate and the pooping Zorro.
Right now I am fostering a rescue Scarlet Macaw named Bullet. He's as miserable as Kate and has anger/control issues. The two were meant for each other.
There's a lovely family who has experience with large parrots and they have expressed interest in adopting him. They have a very large, elaborate play gym for him. Because droppings in a bird this size are quite significant (think cow flop), they'd like him to be potty trained. I'm trying, but so far it's been a frustrating process and I think he knows that he's just tormenting me by not being cooperative. Bullet's vocab is extensive, though, and he will say "Bullet go potty" and then he laughs in a demonic "voice." This may take some time!
Sleepless In Seattle said... 1
Another thing I wanted to mention about the broken "foot" Kate said "I broke my foot and I still hobbled out and fed you" to the kids.
That is absolutely disgusting. How many of us mothers have been sicker than a dog, having been the lucky recipient of the flu or other bug that was passed around by our children?
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Seattle, what Kate said was actually worse.
"I don't really care! It was broken and you still forced me to hobble out and feed you!" The kids FORCED the bitch to feed them, yeah, right Kate!
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Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 · Jun 19
I DID? Sadly crap happens! RT @Mrs_Thood: Watching #KatePlus8 and @Kateplusmy8 has bird poop down her back lol #thestruggleisreal
Okay everyone put down the rumspringa and wipe off your screens. I know it was a typo but it's too funny to ignore.
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What was the typo?
Okay everyone put down the rumspringa and wipe off your screens. I know it was a typo but it's too funny to ignore.
How DO you explain the poop that apparently was visible on the back of Kate's shit? lol!!
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I saw it, too, Auntie Ann...I just didn't say anything. Too busy opening up another Rumspringa! I've got to lay off that stuff.
"I hobbled and fed you!!!"
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Wasn't it a practice way back when to hobble a person (such as a convict) by tethering his or her legs together with a leather strap?
Pass the dunce cap because I am the dope of the day.
1. When I was reading the early comments about Gaga Ball I thought TLC paid for tickets to a Lady Gaga concert. Then I saw the clip. Oops, my bad. But Lady Gaga has called them "Monster Balls" so I guess I may not have been too far off the mark.
2. Someone posted a comment from an article with a link to the article. The comment was - jla • 13 hours ago
Why is there a golden retriever on Kate's head? - I actually clicked the link to see a picture of TFW with a dog on her head and then the lightbulb went off. Ah, the mean her hair.
I need another drink!
Mel said... 13
She was so manipulative with Mady. Mady voiced a concern (I don't like surprises) and what she needed (next time ask me first) in a very mature, rational manner.
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I agree completely. I ranted on about this scene on the previous page of comments. Mady was very mature to recognize and express her needs; many adults can't do the same. Not that it will do her any good....
I haven't read through all of the posts yet, but most of them. Now let's see if I have this right. Kate has a bird perch on her kitchen counter, the bird is allowed to fly free in the house, and he even landed on the kids' special birthhday cake.
Yet, a couple of years ago, if I remember correctly, when the kids were making something in the kitchen, Kate put brown paper bags on the kitchen counter to keep things clean. She also told the kids that if one crumb fell on the floor, they would have to clean up every bit of it.
YET, a bird can fly freely in the home, in the kitchen, and even has a perch on the kitchen counter?!?! Kate doesn't seem too worried about cleanliness in that scenario, and I sure as heck would not want to eat anything off of her "brown bag" -less counter tops now.
My, how her standards have changed for the cameras.
I'm having a hard time keeping up with all the comments and links. Thanks to all who watched and have kept us updated. I had intended to record the show but I genuinely forgot ( must have been my subconscious kicking in ) so I am enjoying all the comments and snark.
TWF appears to be stark raving bonkers. I had previously thought that when she was called mentally ill, it was an overstatement or exaggeration or pure mockery. But she really is bananas. She hasn't a clue. Those poor kids.
they'd like him to be potty trained. I'm trying, but so far it's been a frustrating process and I think he knows that he's just tormenting me by not being cooperative. Bullet's vocab is extensive, though, and he will say "Bullet go potty" and then he laughs in a demonic "voice." This may take some time!
I don't think birds are meant to be potty trained. It's got to be as frustrating for the bird as it is for the owner. Birds aren't meant to be trained. They have wings. Let them fly.
Sleepless In Seattle said... 26
"I hobbled and fed you!!!"
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Wasn't it a practice way back when to hobble a person (such as a convict) by tethering his or her legs together with a leather strap?
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Every time I hear or read 'hobble' I think of Kathy Bates hobbling James Caan's feet to that board and wacking them with the sledge hammer in 'Misery'. Gaaaaah
Funny how Kate can hobble around looking for sympathy with a little biddy broken toe but Mady is all 'dramatics' when she's hurt, whether it was fake or not. Kate lives by 'do as I say not as I do'.
NJGal51 said... 27
Why is there a golden retriever on Kate's head? - I actually clicked the link to see a picture of TFW with a dog on her head and then the lightbulb went off. Ah, the mean her hair.
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haha!
The dunce cap is making it's rounds. Someone said she looked like Cousin It and I thought it was autocorrect correcting 'doesn't it' and it still didn't make sense. Doesn't it what??? Duh.
She sure has a hard time cracking a smile when she is with the kids, looked like a warden while taking their (fake) breakfast order. And in my eyes, there is no way that any of her dark-haired children look anything like her, they are all resembling Jon. The more work she has done, the less resemblance there will ever be. Putz.
As stated here numerous times, a large part of the Gosselin dynamic was Jon vs. Kate. Jon's gone. How can TLC bring the angst and drama back? Why, make it Kate vs. Mady! You've got everything you need for ratings that are gold AND Presidential.
For good measure, be sure to get lots of footage of the kids displaying their emotions vocally, physically and possibly even psychologically.
Too bad all TLC ended up doing was focusing a camera on those parts
of their lives that should never be recorded for public consumption.
Mae Keller from Tall Grass Oklahoma does not need to watch the coping skills of 8 children on TV.
Dictionary meaning:
Hobbling
Tie or strap together (the legs of a horse or other animal) to prevent it from straying.
Poor Shrek.
You know the friend of Mady and her mother watched the show. I would because my daughter was on there and especially after the report she got back about what happened at BodyZone.
If I were the mom of the girl that went, I would be pretty upset. Did kate say that when a friend comes over, she gets their phone, iPad or whatever and confiscates it? Wow, W. You are making it awfully difficult for these kids to even have friends over.
She is bat crazy, her saying they forced her to hobble and fed them. Well, I believe her, because she said they just learned to pour their own cereal at the age of 10. And she makes the half sandwiches at Zorro's Island Paradise Central! All snark.
But she didn't have a problem hobbling to the Baltimore Book Festival and other stops on her cook book tour. She did quite well on the video I saw.
Who ever posted about kate being sensitive about the hair comments, yes, I agree. She knows her own hair is toast because of all the damage, chemicals, weaving, coloring and most of all, The Money she spent to look like a RHWOGHVPA!
Real Housewife of Ghettoville PA.
My apologies to the locals. Or, how about this?
RHWOBVPA.
Real Housewife of Bullyville PA
She must think the ugly hair comments are really a jab to her in a round about way. EW. Evil Witch.
"I don't really care! It was broken and you still forced me to hobble out and feed you!" The kids FORCED the bitch to feed them, yeah, right Kate!
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See! See! GRRRRR! This is the guilt shit these kids deal with on a continuous daily basis. It is ALWAYS about her. There's no spin, no trying produce, plan/script, capture and replace the "jon/kate dynamic" this shit is for real.
TFW turned it around on her saying, oh next time I shouldn't invite her?
And even then Mady responded maturely, saying, no I didn't say that. I said next time ask me first.
TFW continued with the manipulation saying she wouldn't invite a friend next time.
Disgusting. She just had to win, had to have the last word.
Couldn't just say, oh i'm sorry. You're right, I didn't think. After this I'll ask you first.
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She has to be mentally ill. She just has to be. Who behaves like this with their own children?
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This is true, except that parrots don't poop on their feet. The only way the bird would have poopy feet is if Kate didn't clean the grate at the bottom of the cage and he walked around in it.
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So birds don't walk on the bottom of their cages?
Oh well, you know what I meant.
Besides, I don't let our cat (knowingly, don't what he does when we're not around) walk on our countertops. His paws go into his litter box and no amount of self cleaning gets that s%$# off lol..
Imagine if there was a hair in something she ordered at a restaurant??
She won't eat anything the kids have prepared (who probably follow their mother's unrealistic hand washing rules religiously) but she lets a bird roam free range in their kitchen. Yes, she is mentally ill
Part of the head-wreckingness of being the Daughter of a Narcissistic Mother is that these women are quite often nice to us. It's not unremittingly awful.
It can be very confusing though. And of course, if you try to tell them you don't like the way they treat you, they can validly point to these nice things.
The thing is that there's always an underlying tension. You're only ever one wrong word away from it all going wrong. You can never relax. If you don't give her her due respect or adoration, or if you disagree with her, or whatever tiny trigger sets her off, then you get at best a cooling-off, and at worst, a bout of Narcissistic Rage.
You need to play by the rules, and then all is well.
Just never, ever EVER protest any treatment you get. The nice things are a favour doled out to you by her grace and favour. You actually have no rights. And if you try to assert rights - well, the fun is over and you're put back in your box.
Another aspect to Narcissistic Mothers being nice is that it's often a control thing, with an agenda - there is often big strings attached. One big string, of course, is that you start doubting yourself and thinking that you're imagining the dysfunction and abuse
Narcissistic mothers are masters of invalidation. It's part of their gaslighting armoury. They dismiss and undermine your your feelings and emotions to make you feel only what's acceptable to them. This means that they get to treat you the way they want, and manouvre the situation so you don't get to feel the appropriate responses.
It is cruel beyond measure. Of all the abuses heaped upon daughters of narcissistic mothers, this might be the worst. If you can't even trust and own your own feelings - well, what have you left?
Invalidation leaves daughters of narcissistic mothers with a lot of doubt into adulthood, not able to trust their own feelings - how do they know that they're feeling what they think they're feeling, or if it's right? And given that our feelings are our guides - every feeling carries an important message - then we're missing out on that essential system. For instance, if we don't trust our fear, how do we know if we're in danger, and then how can we take the necessary steps to protect ourselves?
Because of this invalidation daughters of narcissistic mothers can grow up believing that they are abnormal or twisted. This is because our totally natural and normal feelings are told to be wrong (either in as many words, or by implication), and so we absorb the message that we're wrong to have them.
This is totally head-wrecking stuff. It can leave you wondering if you're imagining it, if you're over-reacting and so on, and that doubt leaves you open to more abuse.
With a Narcissistic Mother nothing is ever straightforward. There's an angle and an agenda to everything. So if she is generous, you can be sure there are big strings attached.
Usually the string is to instil guilt in you or a sense of being beholden to them. Or it's the ability to throw it in your face whenever you protest their treatment of you. It's as if this generosity gave them absolute permission to abuse you.
I knew though that everything they ever did for me was bound to be thrown in my face again in event of a row. "In case of fire, break glass. In case of row, throw this in Danu's face."
It used to be really confusing because I'd be saying, as calmly as I could, that I didn't like X treatment, and they'd be saying, "But we did nice things Y and Z for you."
And if I protested that, they'd say, 'Well are we not allowed to present evidence of when we were nice? You're only concentrating on the bad things'.
And I'd be left silenced. There was a flaw in that logic, but I couldn't put my finger on it. (Not then. I do now. I know it's the logical fallacy of the Red Herring.)
Narcissists are master projectors. No-one is better at looking directly at a person and seeing not who that person is, but who they wish for them to be. When a narcissistic mother looks at her child, she is capable of seeing many things: a source of narcissistic supply, an impediment to her lust for power, the inconvenience of a child’s feelings and needs, a string of intolerable annoyances, unwanted limitations, and a myriad of other possibilities. But never the actual child.
In a narcissist’s family, dysfunctional roles are the norm, and narcissistic mothers are always the producers, directors, and casting agents for the entire production. Children are assigned roles to play long before they are old enough to resist them, and grow up within the confines of these limitations, knowing nothing different exists anywhere. It is typical of parents with personality disorders to select at least one “Golden Child”, who can do no wrong, and at least one Scapegoat, who can do no right.
When deciding (unconsciously) what child will play each role, the narcissistic mother weighs her options on a deep, intuitive level. Which child is the most sensitive? Which child reminds her of a hated parent, or the ex-spouse who stood up to her, or something within herself she cannot accept? Which one asks more of her, either intentionally, or by way of circumstance? Which child expresses unhappiness more often about the unbearable situations the narcissistic mother creates? Which one is more vulnerable, or more outspoken? In short, which child bothers her the most?
This child will be made her Scapegoat.
This Scapegoat will ultimately be made to carry the lion’s share of the family’s blame, shame, anger, and rejection so the rest can more easily retain their patterns of dysfunction. This child will always and forever be the one who is not good enough, even when she excels at something – indeed, especially when she excels. This child will endure more put-downs, sideways remarks and behind-the-back betrayals than the rest of the family put together. This child will endure the wear and tear of the family’s dysfunction in a way that will enable the others to continue looking good despite the family’s toxicity.
Because the narcissist cannot accept her faults, she spends her days trying to convince herself that everything she does is perfect. When her personality disorder causes distress within her family, and her children’s issues begin to reflect this, the narcissistic mother is forced to make a choice. She must either acknowledge that she is making mistakes that are affecting her children negatively, or she must try to convince herself and others that the problems are coming not from her, but another source. And the latter is the option the narcissist always and unfailingly selects. In her mind, by blaming another, she absolves herself of any wrongdoing, and she can continue to believe - and strive to convince others - that she is in fact, perfect. But she must first have someone to blame.
Narcissists are master projectors. No-one is better at looking directly at a person and seeing not who that person is, but who they wish for them to be. When a narcissistic mother looks at her child, she is capable of seeing many things: a source of narcissistic supply, an impediment to her lust for power, the inconvenience of a child’s feelings and needs, a string of intolerable annoyances, unwanted limitations, and a myriad of other possibilities. But never the actual child.
In a narcissist’s family, dysfunctional roles are the norm, and narcissistic mothers are always the producers, directors, and casting agents for the entire production. Children are assigned roles to play long before they are old enough to resist them, and grow up within the confines of these limitations, knowing nothing different exists anywhere. It is typical of parents with personality disorders to select at least one “Golden Child”, who can do no wrong, and at least one Scapegoat, who can do no right.
When deciding (unconsciously) what child will play each role, the narcissistic mother weighs her options on a deep, intuitive level. Which child is the most sensitive? Which child reminds her of a hated parent, or the ex-spouse who stood up to her, or something within herself she cannot accept? Which one asks more of her, either intentionally, or by way of circumstance? Which child expresses unhappiness more often about the unbearable situations the narcissistic mother creates? Which one is more vulnerable, or more outspoken? In short, which child bothers her the most?
This child will be made her Scapegoat.
This Scapegoat will ultimately be made to carry the lion’s share of the family’s blame, shame, anger, and rejection so the rest can more easily retain their patterns of dysfunction. This child will always and forever be the one who is not good enough, even when she excels at something – indeed, especially when she excels. This child will endure more put-downs, sideways remarks and behind-the-back betrayals than the rest of the family put together. This child will endure the wear and tear of the family’s dysfunction in a way that will enable the others to continue looking good despite the family’s toxicity.
Because the narcissist cannot accept her faults, she spends her days trying to convince herself that everything she does is perfect. When her personality disorder causes distress within her family, and her children’s issues begin to reflect this, the narcissistic mother is forced to make a choice. She must either acknowledge that she is making mistakes that are affecting her children negatively, or she must try to convince herself and others that the problems are coming not from her, but another source. And the latter is the option the narcissist always and unfailingly selects. In her mind, by blaming another, she absolves herself of any wrongdoing, and she can continue to believe - and strive to convince others - that she is in fact, perfect. But she must first have someone to blame.
way too much to paste, but for anyone that's interested
Read more: http://www.daughtersofnarcissisticmothers.com/golden-child-scapegoat.html#ixzz35Gqnjfl1
OK, had to paste this---Globegate anyone?
"The Scapegoat is the one who assuages the narcissistic mother’s (and ultimately, the whole family’s) guilt, shame, and feelings of inadequacy. The Scapegoat is the shock absorber, the buffer against the harsh reality that there is something wrong with the family picture altogether – the trash bin into which all unwanted matter is cast. The Scapegoat role facilitates the existence of family denial. The narcissistic mother teaches her non-scapegoat children to accept and support the scapegoating of a given child by affirming and rewarding those children’s perceptions that whenever anything is wrong, it is to be the Scapegoat’s fault. Children adapt quickly to these roles, and learn readily that if they do not want to be responsible for something, they need only turn to the Scapegoat, whose case will never be sufficiently or properly heard, and whose “guilt” is so readily welcomed. Once the other family members have mastered this approach, they are much freer to do otherwise objectionable things without suffering negative consequences"
LMAO at my typo in the bird comment, must have been subliminal suggestion. And yes, Sleepless, I was asking you, wondering if birds just have "accidents" like this or whether the claim that this parrot is potty-trained is just another tall Kate tale.
That said, though, the bird just underscores Kate's total fakeness for the cameras. When her own child offered pizza to someone whom she's known for most of her life WITH HER BARE HANDS, Kate had a meltdown, the absurdity of which ultimately took her show OFF THE AIR. But as she walks around her kitchen with this bird perched on her shoulder (I love the people who've been asking, "Is she a pirate?"), which may or may not be defecating, she's all blase, oh yeah, CRAP HAPPENS.
Is her "I don't care" attitude with the bird supposed to show us how she's changed? (As she takes every opportunity to tell us.) Sorry, I don't think anyone changes in that manner or to that extent. Agree completely with the posters who've noted just how confusing this behavior must be to her children. I don't think there's been any real change, I think she's just much more self-conscious now about how she thinks she should be coming across--though she still fails miserably in the "genuine" department.
From the movie, not the show. I think the show would have been a better representation but here you go.
http://www.google.com/images?q=cousin+it&hl=en&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ei=zm6lU-PfBKjLsQTYq4LADA&ved=0CAsQsAQ#
She must think the ugly hair comments are really a jab to her in a round about way. 38
Actually, I think the ugly hair comments are pretty direct. :)
How can TLC bring the angst and drama back? Why, make it Kate vs. Mady! You've got everything you need for ratings.
Therein lies the reason I stopped watching anything on TLC. It sucks pondwater.
Does anyone else have doubts about Robert's book going on sale in two days?? I do, but if it does I will be buying it as I did the first one! Didn't watch the show and from what I am reading, glad I didn't.
Poor Cara and Collin. Kate is a monster.
"I don't really care! It was broken and you still forced me to hobble out and feed you!" The kids FORCED the bitch to feed them, yeah, right Kate!
She didn't feed them then anyway. She was on her whirlwind cookbook tour.
"If there was poop on Kate's shirt, then the bird pooped."
The bird did poop on her shirt. I saw a freeze frame of it yesterday but can't find it again. It was disgusting. I can't imagine having a bird poop in your kitchen can be safe. I don't know for sure but couldn't it cause salmonella or another disease?
I'm a little baffled after looking at Kate's twitter feed last night. The fans were actually gushing about the ratings. How can they look at those numbers and be impressed?
If this were a regular weekly show, then 2.359 million would be good. But this is supposedly a highly-anticipated special.You'd expect the numbers to be through the roof. And we know that Kate is hoping that this leads to a new show. That makes the rating so not good. Judging by comments on different sites, many people watched to see how big the kids are. Some watched to see if Kate is really as awful as they remember. Some watched out of curiosity and were turned off by Kate's nastiness. Those people would not be long-term viewers. If TLC plans to make a regular show out of this, they will have to look at how many potential long-term viewers are out there. Having a second episode will help them determine that. They can compare ratings from the first and second episode and see how many viewers were lost. Of course, some sheeple (like Ziggy) believe the numbers will go up. Makes me wonder what kind of fantasy world they live in. I think they will drop. If they drop, especially if the ratings are under 2 million, then it's doubtful that a new show will materialize. Ever. Kate wanted a chance to prove herself. She got it. I think she failed.
K+8 premiered in June 2010 with 3.4 million. That number dropped by a million by the time the second episode aired. By August, the show was struggling in the ratings, eventually dropping to a low of 681,000. After 15 months, K+8 was done. This special doesn't have big enough numbers to survive much of a drop in ratings if it were to become a regular thing. Which it won't.
What I want to know is, during the shows opening credits when all the kids get to say their name the boys didn't get to say theirs, the girls did it for them....boys are too yucky to speak?
laurajean
I agree about the ratings. I do not think they are significant for a special. All she has managed to do is picket some cash, embarrass her kids and prove what a horrible person she is. I see that she has now decided to embrace the hatred in hopes the controversy will bring viewers. Not happening. The children are in trouble.
The bird did poop on her shirt. I saw a freeze frame of it yesterday but can't find it again.
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Here's the picture. Not sure if it's poop, or if it's just a shadow.
https://twitter.com/AskAJAnything/status/479863912938999808/photo/1
Vanessa, thank you for all your posts. This particular sentence jumped out at me:
" You're only ever one wrong word away from it all going wrong. '
Sadly, that is so true.
US Weekly has an article about the gaga ball game, and this comment describes Kate perfectly.
"I agree that you must teach your children that they wont always win, but I disagree with the way Kate does it. She intentionally sets her kids up to not only fail but to have them do it in front of an audience."
http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/kate-gosselin-will-not-let-kids-win-games-tlc-special-video-2014206
Exactly. What she really meant when speaking to Collin was:
"We don't tear down"--only "I" can do that.
"We build up"--especially when it comes to "me, me, me".
Not sure if this link was already posted, but this is an Extra interview on youtube. The rolling of the eyes is annoying:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBW5Tm_I7f4
Admin (191(
I agree that what is missing is the dynamic between Jon and Kate. When the conflict was between two adults, it was easier to watch. As awful as Kate's abuse of Jon was, he is an adult. People watched to see him fight back, which he did at times. C'mon, who wasn't thrilled when he told her to take the stick out? I know I was!
But seeing her bully the kids? Now, that's different. They are kids, their developing self-esteem is at stake. It's not a level playing field, and it's not fair.
All the popular reality shows center on the dynamic between the adults. The Real Housewives centers on the dynamic between the women. The Little Couple centers on the loving relationship between Bill and Jen (the adorable kids are just a bonus). Even 19 Kids is mainly about two parents juggling an absurd number of kids, and now that many of them are adults, they have their own story lines, too. With K+8, that adult dynamic does not exist. It's one adult being horrible to 8 vulnerable kids. That's what made it so painful to watch. And that's why it will never work.
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I am not telling anyone to watch or not to watch. It's a personal choice. The ones who watch share the awfulness with everyone, which reminds us all why we are here. 8 kids are still being treated horribly while the world watches. Kate is a woman who makes money off abusing vulnerable children. That's not right. And that's why we are here.
Had to laugh at this comment from the US article: "u gotta admit she's
always trying to get them to be active and not just put them in front
of the tv." TFW got them active because there was a camera crew
there to film them. By her own admission on Twitter, their first week
of summer vacation consisted of multiple viewings of an old Disney
movie, plus a trip to the movies, plus a "Full House" marathon. Sure,
it's possible that the kids had some outdoor play time. But I'm willing
to bet that superfun family gaga ball game was the first and last
time it would ever be played by the 8+TFW.
Having read that TFW went to hug M after humiliating her and was rebuffed, my theory is...TFW knew darn well M would push her
away, and that's the only reason she did it. What a perfect way
to demonstrate how "tough" TFW has it. Without a word being
spoken, she could show us: "See? See what I go through? I go
to hug her and she pushes me away! So what am I supposed to
do? You'd take her phone away, too, wouldn't you?"
"And the idea was, the shark goes to the nearest man and then he'd start poundin' and hollerin' and screamin' and sometimes the shark would go away. Sometimes he wouldn't go away. Sometimes that shark, he looks right into you. Right into your eyes. You know the thing about a shark, he's got... lifeless eyes, black eyes, like a doll's eye. When he comes at ya, doesn't seem to be livin'. Until he bites ya and those black eyes roll over white." Quint
PJ
That scene with Mady and the dodgeball game was just deplorable. I guess that, for now, beating her at a game in which TFW has an overwhelming height advantage, is the only place she can best her. Mady has the upper hand in every other way. Right now, they are the same age, emotionally. Did anyone Hesse hear her say something about "a dramatic moment"? I thought she might have been referencing Mady's dramatic pause comment on the View--looked like her last shot was in retaliation for that. This is proven when TFW joined Mady in teasing Cara. It won't be long before the twins surpass her emotional age and physical ability. Then, the fun will really begin.
Vanessa, thank you so much for those posts.
I am old enough (now) to understand and live beyond the confusion. I am the oldest of seven children. I can tell you exactly which roles we were assigned. I grieve for our scapegoat, who still carries scars and insecurities.
I will certainly follow the link you provided. Thank you.
She has to be mentally ill. She just has to be. Who behaves like this with their own children?
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My dil.
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Vanessa...good posts. You have perfectly described my spouse, and my dil.
One word away from going wrong...so true. Golden boy is my gs. Scapegoat is my gd.
Nothing I can do to make it better except love her when I see her. Dil complains that I'm "too lax" with the kids, meaning that I'm not mean enough to the girl and I make the boy follow my rules (no hitting his sister, no calling her names, no tattling).
Funny how all the constant chaos at her house doesn't exist when they're with me. The gd happily sings as she explores the garden, the gs plays with his trucks. The gs spends the first few hours testing me to see if I mean it, finds out I am very serious about good behavior, settles down, and we have a nice day.
I'm allowed to only have them rarely because I think dil senses that I allow her daughter to have a peaceful time just being loved, and we can't have that.
.TFW knew darn well M would push her away, and that's the only reason she did it.
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Exactly! All manipulation. No emotion shown by TFW is real. It's all gas ligting.
Sleepless in Seattle: They do have bird diapers, they are called flightsuites. From the pic I've seen, it's like a little body suit, with a pad, and the bird can still fly, and all you have to do is change the pad and wash the rest if needed in the wash. If you can't get the bird trained, it might also make the bird feel secure, you know like the body suit things they put on dogs to keep them calm & secure. IF I had bigger birds, I have 2 parakeets and 2 Cockatiels , I would probably get a few, they come in all sorts of designs. I think they are cute. So, my newbie is a baby parakeet, my other 3 are 7 years old this year, Sunnee, replaces my 9year old parakeet, Sassy. And no my birds do not walk around or fly around the house, I have 2 dogs.
http://geofflivingston.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/grinch.jpeg
Yup, The Grinch
But seeing her bully the kids? Now, that's different. They are kids, their developing self-esteem is at stake. It's not a level playing field, and it's not fair.
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Agree completely.
People want conflict there is no question. But it has to be somewhat of a fair fight. You want to see a heavyweight fight with another heavyweight even if one is a big underdog. You don't want to see a heavyweight punch and kick a little kid. Blowouts are not fun to watch in sports and they're not fun to watch on reality T.V.
Glad I could provide some good reading ;)
Bitches, all of them!
Exactly! All manipulation. No emotion shown by TFW is real. It's all gas ligting.
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And this is why I truly believe the die hard klovers are JUST LIKE HER. They WILL see it as poor poor mother. They treat their children just the same way
We haven't heard from Jon about this latest debacle. Curious, don't you think?
If he's avoiding the media, I should think we'd see something along the lines of, "We reached out to their father Jon for his reactions, but he was unavailable…"
PS Very recently, someone posted here as "Empress is Mediocre." Our thoughts don't contradict each other in the slightest, but just wanted to point out that it isn't me.
I also think that TFW trying to hug Mady after was Tfw trying to soothe herself for what she knew was jerk behavior.
It wasn't about Mady and her feelings, it was about TFW and *her* feelings.
Here's the picture. Not sure if it's poop, or if it's just a shadow.
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The dark spot on her left side, mid-way down her back? That's not bird poop! Or am I looking at the wrong place?
There is something seriously disturbing about a young person who cries over episodes of the show. I wonder what is going on in their lives that they get so emotionally involved in a 39-year-old divorced woman with eight children. Why are most of her fans teens or young 20-something women? Is it because Kate herself is this age, mentally, emotionally, and they identify with her?
Courtney Finnegan @xcourtneylynnex 4m
Rewatching the @Kateplusmy8 special & crying because I love/miss them sooo much! I can't get over how much the kids have grown!! #KatePlus8
She is bat crazy, her saying they forced her to hobble and fed them.
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She didn't say that they forced her. She said she hobbled. There's a difference. If she said she hobbled, she was doing it of her own free will, thus implying she made the ultimate sacrifice, took care of them, fed them so they didn't starve, even if it meant she was in pain.
@MiloandJack: @SiobhanR111 @Kateplusmy8 @TLC I was impressed by the closeness, the affection & interaction the kids had w/ea other! #LovingFamily
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Well I'm going to try again because I got an error when I hit post.
I watched the Gaga Ball clip and at the end saw one of the girl tups push one of the boys and then go after him swinging. Yup, there was interaction but I didn't see much affection.
So birds don't walk on the bottom of their cages?
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It depends on the cage. If it's a flat-bottomed cage lined with paper for small birds like love birds and parakeets, yes, they can walk on the bottom of their cage. Kate has a large cage with a removable grate on the bottom. Birds usually don't walk around on those because it's very uncomfortable for them to get a grip. I've seen the nails on Kate's bird. They need to be trimmed. In this case, walking around on that grate, while not impossible, wouldn't serve the bird any purpose other than to cause him discomfort.
Getofftwitter -- I wouldn't recommend an avian flight suit, but I won't get into the negatives because this isn't a bird blog. If my foster isn't willing to be potty trained, then so be it. I'm, not going to force the issue, nor will I grab him by the feathers and whip him into his cage.
The only reason I mentioned the pooping is because there was a discussion about the bird walking around the counters and landing in the cake. If the bird does this, there's not going to be a happy ending if Kate's cooking on the stove and Zorro lands in a hot skillet. She should know better, but obviously, Kate does what Kate wants to do.
Bitchy, I LOVE Mistresses and am only somewhat ashamed to admit it ;)
I haven't read through the comments yet per the born, but am absolutely appalled that people are calling Mady names on Twitter which should only be applied to her Mother. I did glance through the Daily Fail article with the headline "Kate Gosselin has a problem with letting kids win all the time". If she were human, and a mother to boot, I might agree with her on that to a certain degree. But since I have a problem with this narcissistic, sociopathic, fame whoring, lying grifter I tend not to listen to any of her parenting theories. And besides, it's all damage control. What she should be doing now instead of defending herself is defending her daughter and asking people to please not refer to her in derogatory terms. That's what nearly every parent would do, but then again she's not a parent in my eyes.
I wish some foreign country would offer her some TV work and she'd leave the country and her kids for extended periods of time. Long enough for them to experience a normal life and get some counseling. They need guidance and hopefully it's not too late. I really worry about Cara and the boys. I see a lot of myself in Cara and would never wish the hell I've gone through just trying to see past the depression, self doubt etc.. Of course I don't know if she's feeling that way but it would not surprise me.
Has anyone seen the viewer numbers? I can't remember where to find that stuff.
SheepleHerder said... 85
Has anyone seen the viewer numbers? I can't remember where to find that stuff.
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They're here:
https://www.google.com/search?q=tv+by+the+numbers+cable&oq=tv&aqs=chrome.0.69i59l2j69i57j69i65l3.2122j0j7&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8
Although the sheeple are bleating that Kate was #1 in ratings, the FACT is, American Restoration beat out Kate for first in the 10pm time slot.
American Restoration - 2,606 mil
Kate - 2.359 mil
TFW playing martyr about having to feed her children while she had
a broken toe has got to be a new low. Food? Basic. Human. Need.
You know what would significantly improve my opinion of TFW? If
she would invest ONE TWEET in asking her followers - fans and haters alike - to kindly refrain from saying unkind things about her children. She's perfectly happy with what the non-fans say about
her - she's as much as admitted that she doesn't care. But for the sake of those children's psyches, it is the very least she can do.
She put them in the spotlight, and only she can control this
situation. Just one tweet. Something as simple as this:
"Glad U loved R show! May I respectfully ask that you not say
unkind things about my kids? Hurts my heart:( Thanx!XO"
One tweet, TFW. Please. Do it for your children.
I haven't read through the comments yet per the born, but am absolutely appalled that people are calling Mady names on Twitter which should only be applied to her Mother
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The Kate plus 8 FB is just as bad. Many are saying Mady is a brat and worse. Some even said that Mady needs a good beating or that Kate should have smacked her for talking to Kate that way. These were the same people who praised Kate for being a strong mother. They put all the blame on Mady, but in their mind Kate can't do anything wrong.
What is wrong with these people?
"You still forced me to hobble about and feed you"Alrighty there Drama Llama! At least you didn't have to drive yourself to work to pay for that food plus do all the other household chores. She literally makes me see red.
Why can't Terri Irwin build TFW her own exhibit at the zoo? She can take the bird with her and Bindi could toss in some bird seed and water a couple of times a day for both the bird and Skeletor. The kids could come visit a couple of times a year and TLC can film it. That would be the only update specials I'd be interested in watching.
I see Kate just took the twins to yet another concert. Didn't she just take them to a movie last week too? Never hear her talk about taking the younger kids any where fun.
Kelly said... 83
Bitchy, I LOVE Mistresses and am only somewhat ashamed to admit it ;)
I haven't read through the comments yet per the born, but am absolutely appalled that people are calling Mady names on Twitter which should only be applied to her Mother.
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It is appalling and it should be considered child abuse that she's put Mady out there to be picked at by vultures. WTF!?
Kate has done nothing for the last how many years but whine about how she is cyber bullied. She was so desperate to try to stop it that she associated with vile thugs and just may find herself in some trouble for this conspiracy. Bitch and moan, moan and bitch, bitch and moan.... "I'm an adult bully victim..... wahhhhhhhhhhhh"
But when she throws Mady to the wolves and exposes her to cyber bullying, Kate calls that supporting her kids. What bullying? {crickets}
A sane, loving mother does NOT do this to their child. She is teaching them that their dignity can be bought for the right price. Kate doesn't like being cyberbullied when there's nothing in it for her. For a nice paycheck from TLC though, it is perfectly acceptable and a good way to capture buzz.
Holy back alley bar brawl, Batman!
Thanks to your posts, I rewatched the GaGa ball ending and holy shit!
A brawl broke out, and Kate is freaking oblivious to it.
Here's what looks like what happened- Kate takes Mady out and the stands clear.
Girl tup goes up to Kate to celebrate with her, and sees of of the boys pointing in Mady's face (probably taunting that she lost), and she shoves the SHIT out of him!
Then Cara rushes in to break up the fight, and the scene is cropped (on purpose?) so that you can't really sees the spillover brawling that even more tups get into, just arms flailing and more shoving.
But to Kate's point, if the ball wasn't a "hard" ball, but a "squishy" ball, then how could that possibly scar someone?????
#faultylogic#youreallyjustdon'tgetit
Sleepless In Seattle said... 82
If the bird does this, there's not going to be a happy ending if Kate's cooking on the stove and Zorro lands in a hot skillet. She should know better, but obviously, Kate does what Kate wants to do.
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If that happened, and it very well could, I wonder if she'd mention it. Nala ate a stuffed animal, and they had to film that for part of an episode, Shoka ate plastic wrap from the garbage and she couldn't restrain herself from putting it on twitter, so it's likely she'd have to announce that, too.
But I digress...
Kate's carelessness is going to cause someone or some animal an injury one of these days that she won't be able to laugh off. Flinging babies into their crib, spanking them so hard that she has to phone Jon to come home, leaving them caged in their cribs are the actions of someone who has serious anger management problems. She apparently drives like a freaking maniac, too. Does she drive when she's angry? That's a scary thought.
These are just things we know about. What hasn't leaked out, I'd like to know? The woman is in desperate need of therapy. Years of it. Why does she have such a reckless disregard for other living things? I know it's just how she is, but I still don't understand that brain glitch in narcissists. NASA researchers would be perplexed by the mechanics of it.
And yet this abomination of a mother STILL manages to get her fugly mug on television for yet another play-by-play recording of her abusive behavior AND get paid for it. WTF is wrong with this picture?
Winsomeone said... 91
I see Kate just took the twins to yet another concert. Didn't she just take them to a movie last week too? Never hear her talk about taking the younger kids any where fun.
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That's a retweet. People are retweeting her old tweets today for some reason.
Winsomeone said... 91
I see Kate just took the twins to yet another concert. Didn't she just take them to a movie last week too? Never hear her talk about taking the younger kids any where fun.
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I checked her TL, and the concert tweet was from March 3rd. Someone retweeted it.
Auntie Ann, I agree. Years of therapy are needed and yet, here she is getting her face on television over and over again. I do not get it either. Time for reality shows to go away! Long ago was the time for the Gosselins to stop and get the help they still need.
Here's what looks like what happened- Kate takes Mady out and the stands clear.
Girl tup goes up to Kate to celebrate with her, and sees of of the boys pointing in Mady's face (probably taunting that she lost), and she shoves the SHIT out of him!
Then Cara rushes in to break up the fight, and the scene is cropped (on purpose?) so that you can't really sees the spillover brawling that even more tups get into, just arms flailing and more shoving.
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When Kate said to Mady, this is dramatics - IT's FAKE, one of the tups (Hannah?) yells "No it isn't. It happened to me!".
No matter. Kate was in her glory that she'd won and the kids were fighting about. Divide and conquer as usual. Mommie D wins again as usual.
Not that it's a big issue but that was not a "squishy" ball. It made a sound when it hit the walls. Squishy balls, like Nerf balls, don't make any sound when they hit a wall, hard balls do.
Kate frustrates me so much I'd like to pop her one.
And yet this abomination of a mother STILL manages to get her fugly mug on television for yet another play-by-play recording of her abusive behavior AND get paid for it. WTF is wrong with this picture? 94
EVERYTHING.
gotyournumberKate said... 53
"I don't really care! It was broken and you still forced me to hobble out and feed you!" The kids FORCED the bitch to feed them, yeah, right Kate!
She didn't feed them then anyway. She was on her whirlwind cookbook tour.
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Well you know what they say. Nothing helps heal a hobbling harridan like a little camera time.
Kelly said... 90
Why can't Terri Irwin build TFW her own exhibit at the zoo?
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As long as it involves and electric fence and shock collar ;-)
I'm working on the recap.
Does anyone remember either a tweet or interview where Kate specifically said something about how we should not judge parents or don't judge parents or we should support all parents?
I know she's said that I just can't remember where or when.
Thank you!
"Hobbling Harridan" - thanks, AuntieAnn! Maybe we should adopt
"HH" as the new "TFW!"
It's been said Shoka was glimpsed a few times during the special,
but nothing more than that? Isn't he HH's 9th child? A friend and
companion to all? Or has he been relegated to second-class
citizen since Zorro flew on to the scene? Like everyone else
TFW kicks to the curb, perhaps Shoka just didn't know how
to help her.
Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said... 99
Not that it's a big issue but that was not a "squishy" ball. It made a sound when it hit the walls. Squishy balls, like Nerf balls, don't make any sound when they hit a wall, hard balls do.
Kate frustrates me so much I'd like to pop her one.
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Well, she collects them so Kate thinks she's an expert on balls.
I think what might have happened to Mady wasn't by the ball, but looks more like she twisted her knee when she turned and fell to dodge the ball. I've only watched the clip so I don't know what was said about it afterwards.
Oh and if you want to pop her one, you'll have get to the back of line.
FlimsyFlamsy said... 104
"Hobbling Harridan" - thanks, AuntieAnn! Maybe we should adopt
"HH" as the new "TFW!
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You're welcome FF. lol! The Hobbling Harridan. hmmm. It would make a good scarey campfire story.
Shoka ate plastic wrap from the garbage and she couldn't restrain herself from putting it on twitter, so it's likely she'd have to announce that, too.
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Ah yes AuntieAnn, that is what was originally tweeted. After the backlash it seems that Shoka is actually the most talented dog ever to live because he was able to unwrap every piece of banana bread and eat only the bread and none of the plastic wrap. How do I know this? Because TFW said so and in magic Kateland she found every piece of plastic wrap INTACT because in magic Kateland the wind doesn't even blow to carry away the evidence of Shoka's great unwrapping abilities.
The ratings might have been OK (not overwhelmingly great for a much anticipated special) but I don't think she pulled in quite the demographic that TLC was looking for. Over half of those that watched seemed to be under 18. Sponsors like the older demographic that will spend money on their products.
Does anyone remember either a tweet or interview where Kate specifically said something about how we should not judge parents or don't judge parents or we should support all parents?
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This might be what your talking about. Kate wrote a blog post on her website titled Walk a Day In My Heels. This is only part of what she says:
"It’s time for all of us to make a change whereby all parents truly stick together! Period! No more contests, no more darts; just support, help, and concern for each other!"
It was posted here in full. This is the link. Comment #129 by I took a bullet.
http://www.realitytvkids.com/2011/10/jason-duggars-terrifying-accident-is.html
Kate is a twit thank you this is exactly what I had in mind!
I noticed in a the dodge-ball clip Leah said to Mady "At least you'll be happy now with your friend here" or similar. Sounds like Mady casts a pall on a lot of their 'fun."If Mady is treated like this often by Mommy no wonder she's unhappy and grumpy.Embarrassing in front of her friend, too.Imagine Kate going along on all the twins' outings and monitors all their phone calls/texts.
Well, she collects them so Kate thinks she's an expert on balls
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Good God woman, I'm going to pee myself!! Lololol
Did kate say that when a friend comes over, she gets their phone, iPad or whatever and confiscates it?
I can't answer since I didn't watch, but iif she did, what reason would she have for doing it? What is she preventing that they couldn't do with the friend's phone when they're away from the house? I don't understand her logic about this - or much of anything for that matter.
AuntieAnn, that's gotta be one very long line by now! Maybe we should organize a game of Gaga Ball.
I don't really care! It was broken and you still forced me to hobble out and feed you!"
The kids FORCED the bitch to feed them, yeah, right Kate! 22
The way she thinks is truly frightening.
@Lori_Lovin_Life: @Kateplusmy8 OMG! THNK U 4 Being the GREAT MOM U R! U need to teach EVERY PARENT how to be a "PARENT" & not the child! LOVED your new show
@Lori_Lovin_Life: @Kateplusmy8 yes, u r SOOO right! Continue to be that #example & may God give you #STRENGTH to deal w/ #hormones & #attitudes!
@Lori_Lovin_Life: @Kateplusmy8 you are doing a GREAT JOB #teaching #great #morals #lessons #Ethics #integrity ! You possess much #Godly #wisdom & #FAVOR
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I can only hope that this woman is being sarcastic because if she's not, just wow!
Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said... 110
AuntieAnn, that's gotta be one very long line by now! Maybe we should organize a game of Gaga Ball.
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Team uniform- muumuus and Crocks!
Pearls optional.
The winning coach gets a cooler of Rumspringa poured down her neck!
I can only hope that this woman is being sarcastic because if she's not, just wow! 112
Sadly, I think she's serious.
Rhymes with Witch said... 111
I don't really care! It was broken and you still forced me to hobble out and feed you!"
The kids FORCED the bitch to feed them, yeah, right Kate! 22
The way she thinks is truly frightening.
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Was this an attempt at sarcasm on Kate's part?
Did Kate really say that the tups are just starting to be able to serve themselves cereal?
One more for those who watched- Kate says she has to clothe the kids, and a girl says she clothes herself, right?
Does the girl not understand the difference? In other words, at 10, is some degree of abstract thought normal?
D-listed Always has her number.
http://dlisted.com/2014/06/21/kate-gosselin-has-to-pimp-out-her-child-army-on-tv-says-kate-gosselin/
NJGal51
Check out @Lori_Lovin_Life TL. OMG - w/over the top love and positivity to just about every reality and tv person there is - from housewives and soaps to Big Brother to TFW. And she #s everything! LOL
This pressure cooker fits 3 whole chickens. I'd consider donating one to the HH if she'd STFU about having to cook all day every day.
http://m.powerpressurecooker.com/
One more for those who watched- Kate says she has to clothe the kids, and a girl says she clothes herself, right?
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It sounds like one of them is confusing the word "dress" with "clothe," the latter meaning to purchase clothing for them. She responds by saying she clothes herself, and she's saying that she dresses herself.
"Team uniform- muumuus and Crocks!
Pearls optional."
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White knee socks with the Crocs?
Was this an attempt at sarcasm on Kate's part? 112
I think it was part and parcel of her martyr complex.
Her attempts at sarcasm are much more obvious and always fall flat, not to mention the accompanying cackle.
I posted this a couple of hours ago but don't see it, so I'm sending it again:
Mel said... 77
''I also think that TFW trying to hug Mady after was Tfw trying to soothe herself for what she knew was jerk behavior.
It wasn't about Mady and her feelings, it was about TFW and *her* feelings.''
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I was watching a clip somewhere of TCFW's 'take down' of Maddy, and noticed the shoving of one of the boys by two of the younger girls but couldn't quite figure out what was happening in the background as WOS was trying to hug Mady. I was glad that I had dvr'd the episode so I could check out what was going on.
I paused at the moment one of the boys slid off the wall and approached WOS and Mady and was very surprised to see something I hadn't noticed before.
At the moment Mady has her hands on her hips, WOS has her hands behind her with her hands balled into FISTS! As WOS starts to walk toward Mady, I was so glad that I knew Mady wasn't hit with one of those fists.
A few frames later as WOS attempts to hug Mady, WOS is smiling when Mady escapes from her...another thing I didn't notice before. It seemed to me that WOS was thrilled w/herself for not only 'winning' at the stupid game, but at the added bonus of REALLY upsetting her child! She is despicable!! !!!!!!
Rhymes with Witch said... 111
I don't really care! It was broken and you still forced me to hobble out and feed you!"
The kids FORCED the bitch to feed them, yeah, right Kate! 22
The way she thinks is truly frightening.
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Yes, Rhymes, it is very frightening! She said in Michael's? that one of the tup girls voice sounds like a machine gun coming at her!! Then did she do that stupid rubbing her head and warbling her voice and rolling her eyes. She looked so crazy!
If you say someone's voice is coming at you like a machine gun, and your reacting like you are, YOU ARE MENTALLY ILL! You need meds, therapy, HELP!
Did Kate Kate really say that the tups are just starting to be able to serve themselves cereal? 116
If so, (I didn't watch) I think it was
a). They are finally ALLOWED to and
b) her continuing attempts to infantilize them.
Tucker's Mom said... 114
Team uniform- muumuus and Crocks!
Pearls optional.
The winning coach gets a cooler of Rumspringa poured down her neck!
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We'll need to recruit some little kids that we can easily beat because "nobody lets me win" and I think we can teach them such a great life lesson by trouncing them mercilessly in a game of Gaga Ball.
Sleepless In Seattle said... 1
Another thing I wanted to mention about the broken "foot" Kate said "I broke my foot and I still hobbled out and fed you" to the kids.
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That is absolutely disgusting. How many of us mothers have been sicker than a dog, having been the lucky recipient of the flu or other bug that was passed around by our children? Do we cast it up to our kids that we took care of them
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Couldn't agree more! I still remember the time when my son was an infant. There was a terrible flu strain going around that year, and wouldn't you know it, the entire household came down with it. (We were living with my folks at the time.) My son didn't get it, but he did get an ear infection. No one to help out, so I had to get him to the doctor. I remember throwing up in the examining room before the doctor came in. Gross! I felt like the walking dead.
I don't hold this over my son's head - 'look what your mom had to go through to get you proper medical care!' It's part of being a parent and afterward you think, "thank goodness we got through that!"
TFW is the biggest baby, and seriously should never have had any children. She's not mentally able to handle it.
OT. My brother and SIL have received their Big Bang Theory Clue game and they are beyond thrilled (huge BBT fans).
Thanks for the recommendation. I love this blog.
Team uniform- muumuus and Crocks!
Pearls optional. 114
Finally! An occasion to wear my pearls.
Where is Jon in all of this?
(Not a rhetorical question…I'm seriously wondering why it is that the media hasn't included his reactions --or lack of same. I asked earlier, but I'm thinking my question may have gotten lost in a posting flurry.)
There was an old woman who lived in a shoe.
She had so many children, she didn't know what to do;
She gave them some broth without any bread;
Then whipped them all soundly and put them to bed.
New Christian Version:
There was an old woman
Who lived in a shoe,
She had so many children,
And loved them all, too.
She said, "Thank you Lord Jesus,
For sending them bread."
Then kissed them all gladly
and sent them to bed.
Why can't kate be like this????
Are these people serious, or are they just yanking some chains?
patricia degrave @PatriciaDegrave 1h
@Kateplusmy8 What is ur phone number? I have to ask u some questions about ur family !
patricia degrave @PatriciaDegrave 1h
@DdissidentT @Kateplusmy8 @GosselinBook no i wanted to ask her a few question and i also wanted to know if i could meet them in person!
savethe8, I did not label anyone. I carefully used the words "seems like" and "reminds me of". Did I label any kid? NO. And I meant what I said. I am sorry you misunderstood.
Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said... 111
AuntieAnn, that's gotta be one very long line by now! Maybe we should organize a game of Gaga Ball.
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Tweetle and Tucker's, I'm IN! The cooler of rumspringa was the hook. Let's not pour it out though.
Now where do we get a sack of balls? Let me think...
Tucker's Mom said... 116
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Totally agree with you. Everything she says and does is over the top and exaggerated to showcase her "supermom" qualities.
She controls every morsel of food that goes in their mouths so she can control them. Probably why kids are now "allowed" to pour cereal at age 10. Her controlling issues have not led to a maturity level with the tups, as she always wanted to appear of having to do so much, when clearly the kids could have poured cereal years ago.
Her chore chart clearly shows the kids are very capable of doing many things each day, yet they can't pour a bowl of cereal- seriously? She is clearly a mean narcissistic control freak who does everything to make herself look like the poor overworked mom, when that clearly is not the case.
Does she transport or make arrangements for one single kid, other than Cara, to see that they get to participate in outside activities outside of the compound.? Never - all about Kate's convenience. Based on her premise that SHE DOES IT ALL HERSELF, when this is clearly not true. What a liar.
She clearly centers everything around her twisted control and convenience.
Tucker's Mom said... 114
Team uniform- muumuus and Crocks!
Pearls optional.
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and 1970's men's athletic socks, in white only, up to the knee with the obligatory gold and blue stripe on top. That was part of their fantasy too.
Some random thoughts that I'm not sure have been discussed:
– When she was fixing breakfast she basically admitted that the only time she cooks a big breakfast is on school mornings and that on non school days they basically eat later if at all.
– The big breakfast that she served was comprised of toast and one very small spoonful of scrambled eggs and one sausage. Served on a paper plate of course.
– When she was serving the children kale chips, they only got three or four apiece served in a cupcake liner.
– Whenever they were shown eating the children were at the table, however Kate was always standing in the kitchen behind the counter and never eating with them.
– There are an awful lot of notes and lists posted for someone who claims not to have any help.
– A previous poster was correct in noting that some of the items on the chore list required an adult to sign off upon completion.
– Inspector gadget was also listed on the chore chart.
– No sign of the chore jar that she blogged about on the stir.
– The body zone (where she took them on spring break for the sports activities), looked as though it was closed to other customers and the Gosselin's had it all to themselves. If it was actually filmed during spring break , than this certainly was not an inexpensive "fun thing".
– The older twins were allowed to invite friends to the sextuplets party (which the little kids were very upset about), but only because it adhered to Kates manipulative agenda. The twins friends were only welcome if they agreed to help out at the party by manning the booths.
– During Kate's talking head segment on the couch where she was discussing each individual child, she would follow every I love so-and-so with a gigantic BUT and then proceed to insult each child with the exception of Joel whom she claimed is perfect.
– The commercial for next weeks episode of the party showing Kate in her clown wig trailed by Deanna and Jamie, who exactly is with the children?
– The children do an awful lot of pushing, hitting, and shoving, considering she claims everything is happy happy joy joy in that house.
– I love how every time Kate claimed something or spewed forth a falsehood, the children were quick to correct her, or the edit would show the exact opposite of what she was claiming.
-next weeks previews showed a bouncy house at the party, for 10-year-olds!
-For those who are not seen the show yet, consider yourself warned. It was far worse than I ever imagined it could be. She's a very cruel woman and the children are clearly not very happy.
Tucker's Mom said... 93
Holy back alley bar brawl, Batman!
Thanks to your posts, I rewatched the GaGa ball ending and holy shit!
A brawl broke out, and Kate is freaking oblivious to it.
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That's because the filming crew and production assistants were there and as far as she was concerned they could 'stop playing Making A Tv Show' and watch her kids for her.
Or it was the job of the proprietors of the facility. After all, "society" created the drugs that she took to get pregnant so it is 'society's responsibility to take care of them.'
Remona, can you take a picture of her balled fists and put it on your computer with a link so we could see it or if anyone else can that taped it.
Oh, my, if she did that right then, there is no telling how many times her fists have landed on those kids. Isn't a closed fist much worse than an open hand!
Dear God in Heaven, Please intervene on these kids behalf! This abuse of her children is heartbreaking!
So this "Inspector Gadget" job seems to be a whistle blower -- hmmm,
is that considered "building up" or "tearing down?"
It'd be funny if when the kids' books come out in 20 years (and they will), one of the kids reveals they threw that game so Mom would win and not be humiliated on TV. They're used to not having their own needs, so why not just give the narcissist what she wants?
I don't know if I'm up for Gaga Ball, because my legs bruise too
easily. Even my striped sweat socks won't protect them (Dwindle, mine are orange and blue, which are the Mets' colors). But I'll
supply snacks in divided plates. Grapes, crackers and cheese
squares for all!
Wow I just got around to watching the special and a few things I seen.
1. Kate's still a b**ch.
2. I feel even more sorry for the kids then I did before.
3. Kate's become an even bigger b**t then before.
Kate played the victim with Maddy throughout the episode ugh I can't stand this woman.
The only thing that as changed about KK is her face and her waist line.
She's a very cruel woman and the children are clearly not very happy. 138
She would be perfectly cast as Cruella de Ville.
One wanted Dalmatian puppies for $, the other wanted HOM for money. Both are cruel and evil.
Evil is not a word I use lightly.
lukebandit said... 140
''Remona, can you take a picture of her balled fists and put it on your computer with a link so we could see it or if anyone else can that taped it.
Oh, my, if she did that right then, there is no telling how many times her fists have landed on those kids. Isn't a closed fist much worse than an open hand!''
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I would if I could, but I'm only computer semi-literate. I still haven't figured out how do get something recorded on dvr to go frame by frame! You wouldn't believe how many times I paused then backed up, then paused again when trying to figure out what the kids were doing!
The only clue I can give if someone else wants to do a screen shot is that it is the frame where Mady has her hands on her hips just before WOS starts walking toward Mady...that is the second that WOS has her hands behind her back balled into fists.
http://dlisted.com/2014/06/21/kate-gosselin-has-to-pimp-out-her-child-army-on-tv-says-kate-gosselin/kate-gosselin-out-and-about-in-nyc/
Bahaaahaaahaaa best picture of her evah!!!
Maddy did push Kate and she let Maddy get away with-(even if she deserved 2b pushed) Kate should've done something.
Secondly M&C said only of the kids hair was ugly and what did she do???-(Nothing)
chefsummer said... 142
The only thing that as changed about KK is her face and her waist line.
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Kate is really taking a beating all over the net for her face. General consensus is that she looks manly and tranny like. It's all her own doing. Between the excessive tanning and many facial procededures, she did this to herself.
T said... 145
http://dlisted.com/2014/06/21/kate-gosselin-has-to-pimp-out-her-child-army-on-tv-says-kate-gosselin/kate-gosselin-out-and-about-in-nyc/
Bahaaahaaahaaa best picture of her evah!!!
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Ah!!! Dear God now this could be a halloween costume.
I just saw a brief interview given by Kevin & Jodi Kreider a few yrs. back. They predicted what is happening today to the children. Back then they asked the public to just "stop watching" their nieces and nephews so this would all stop. They also said that Jon and Kate would never stop filming on their own. Jodi and Kevin pleaded to the public to "stop." Very enlightened and sincere people. They saw too many things, including the vow renewal, staged for ratings. I say, "Please bring back well performed scripted television."
Wonder why Joel the 'globe peeler' is now perfect? Good for him...I guess..
Does anyone know why Jon is or was trending on Yahoo today? I clicked it but didn't see anything new. I have an ID but haven't used in a long time and forgot how.
sparkle said... 147
Kate is really taking a beating all over the net for her face.
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I wouldn't have said anything about her face but the way she treating the kids man I have to rag on her.
The whole time I was watching the show all I could think was what a freaking b---h.
lukebandit said... 140
Remona, can you take a picture of her balled fists and put it on your computer with a link so we could see it or if anyone else can that taped it.
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Lukebandit,
I can't get a still, but it is at 2:07 of http://www.thewrap.com/kate-gosselin-would-never-throw-a-game-especially-not-against-her-kids-exclusive-video/
What I did was let the video run until Mady starts holding her knee. Stop it somewhere around there. Then hit play, and immediately hit stop. It will advance only part of a second. Repeat hitting play/stop until you see M with her hands on her hips and K with loose fists at her side/slightly behind her back. It didn't look to me like K actually intended to hit M, but K did look angry. After that K flung her arms out to her side with her palms up, as if she were surrendering, and then tried to hug M.
The kid melee some have described is right after that. I can't see much of it, but did see Jenna running over to stop it. It's interesting that K treated Jenna much as she treated Jamie and Ashley - as her servant!
Does anyone know if the online video is cropped from the video that is actually shown on the show? Other posters seem to have seen things I'm not seeing, and I'm wondering if they were on the edge of the frame and were cropped out.
Mine too FlimsyFlamsy LET'S GO METS!
That face on the DListed site, oh my!
I wonder if the reason the tups are just learning to pour their own cereal is because of how she monitors their food intake. God forbid they should pour themselves more cereal than she would normally allow. Gotta keep them small. She probably makes them measure the exact amount of cereal they pour and write it on a chart for her to inspect. And of course she will have Inspector Gadget monitoring everyone to make sure they are entering the exact amount they took.
Of course, she could be afraid that some cereal will be spilled and she wouldn't know who to blame.
Sparkle, any update on the BV situation? I'm curious!
chefsummer said... 146
''Maddy did push Kate and she let Maddy get away with-(even if she deserved 2b pushed) Kate should've done something.''
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I didn't see an actual shove by Mady. What I saw was WOS making a (smiling) show of trying to hug Mady after humiliating her and Mady attempting to escape from WOS hug by pushing away her ARMS, not wanting faux sympathy! Maybe I'm wrong but to ME, that isn't Mady shoving anyone.
Well it's official. I colored my hair today an my hairdresser mentioned that there is a tell all book coming out about Kate , the one she has been fighting to stop. I was shocked because she's not all that interested in Kate or her family! So I guess Radar is helping Robert in advertising the book.
Does anyone know where I can purchase the book day after tomorrow??
I bought the last one at Amazon.
#GrowingUpGosselinWithMotherHobblingToFeedKids
I did the stop/start trick again on the wrap (gaga ball) video, and this time I stopped at slightly different places. This time I saw K's fists behind her back and saw a girl tup shove a boy tup (think it was C), then saw her arm pointed accusingly at the melee that she caused (it was off screen, but apparently she shoved him into someone else, because that's where Jenna ran to). So once again a "golden child" causes a problem and then blames it on someone else!
HEY!!! Dutch Tulip 119...
Nice to see ya!
And what was up with her forehead 3rd photo. Deanna filled in the wrinkles with darker foundation? Thought you were supposed to fill in lighter.
Not that I know anything..I like my wrinkles and the fact that my face moves.
franky
I like d-listed too, lol
The kid melee some have described is right after that. I can't see much of it, but did see Jenna running over to stop it. It's interesting that K treated Jenna much as she treated Jamie and Ashley - as her servant!
Does anyone know if the online video is cropped from the video that is actually shown on the show? Other posters seem to have seen things I'm not seeing, and I'm wondering if they were on the edge of the frame and were cropped out.
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Actually, it was Cara who went over to stop the kids from fighting, You can Jenna going over to Mady, and Cara's back is in the frame,
I just rewatched the recording of the show that I have, and the clip that's been shown online is exactly the same as what was shown on TV. Nothing was cropped as far as I can tell.
Speaking of her looking like a Tranny I saw this look the other day:
Jeff Hiller @boomboomhiller Jun 20
Hey @drewdroege -Kate Gosselin stole your look. pic.twitter.com/cY0NIpzDTB
Not sure who drewoege is, but he is followed by Allison Argrim. Too funny!
Oh, and I went to the Kateplus 8 facebook page. If you go to a page it tells you which of those friends like that page (trying to convince you to like it I guess). Anyway, one of my 30-something cousin's likes it. I'm so disappointed. She's such a reasonable, loving mom. Go figure.
Math Girl said... 154
''What I did was let the video run until Mady starts holding her knee. Stop it somewhere around there. Then hit play, and immediately hit stop. It will advance only part of a second. Repeat hitting play/stop until you see M with her hands on her hips and K with loose fists at her side/slightly behind her back. It didn't look to me like K actually intended to hit M, but K did look angry. After that K flung her arms out to her side with her palms up, as if she were surrendering, and then tried to hug M.
The kid melee some have described is right after that. I can't see much of it, but did see Jenna running over to stop it. It's interesting that K treated Jenna much as she treated Jamie and Ashley - as her servant!
Does anyone know if the online video is cropped from the video that is actually shown on the show? Other posters seem to have seen things I'm not seeing, and I'm wondering if they were on the edge of the frame and were cropped out.''
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Math Girl, I watched the clip at Gawker and in order to figure out exactly what was happening, I went to my recorded on dvr of the episode. I do think that some of the 'action' may have been cropped out on some of the sites, because I didn't have that problem on my recorded episode.
I dvr almost everything I watch...especially anything concerning TCFW because so many on this blog see things that I miss when watching on tv so I can go to my dvr and see what others are discussing.
“Hear me very clearly: If there was another way to singly support eight children, you would not know this name and I would be on an island, and so would they. You would never hear from us again.”
Allow me to translate that from Famewhore-ese to English:
“Hear me very clearly: If there is another way to pimp out my eight children on television, please tell me, because the money I’ll make off this 2-hour TLC special will only pay for 3 weeks of Botox injections and half a pack of polyester My Little Pony hair. I’d skipper a boat named The Minnow and take them all on a fateful 3-hour tour if it could get me a 22-episode reality show called Gosselin’s Island. When do you want to start filming? I can have the kids on a boat in 90 minutes.”
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Hahahahahahahahahahahaha! My Little Pony hair! Michael K. never lets us down!
She's so full of shit. There absolutely IS another way to raise 8 kids. It's called not living in a $1.2 million dollar mansion, not having 3 cars, not sending the kids to private school. People do it every day and raise fine, productive, happy, healthy adults and human beings.
So..T...138
J is perfect? hmmmm
Maybe he has the best coping skills when it come to Her Fuher
Thanks for your post, I don't believe I will ever watch the show.
Had enough growing up with one
OT...DD's grad was PERFECT!..even the last minute panic, everything came together and she was glowing.
I could not be prouder of the wonderful young woman my dd has become.
franky
Upon seeing one of the younger girls shove Collin after he was taunting Mady for losing & another girl joining in the shoving & pushing, I thought that was an odd reaction as the taunting wasn't directed at them & Mady didn't even notice him, it appears. It seems these girls have a lot of anger directed at Collin. Why are they still using their fists to push & shove people at age 10? That's all kate's fault! What poor parenting skills she has.
Suzy
Kate tweeted this:
Kate Gosselin@Kateplusmy8·1 hr
So entertaining to see my kids negotiating...Mady&Caras old toys-->Little kids want them-->Willing to pay! #GosselinTradingPost #LifeSkills
And Milo has gone bonkers with these:
Fired Up 4 Kate@MiloandJack·55 mins
@Kateplusmy8 LOL Tell me WHO is driving the hardest bargain there? Who has that ability like Mom 2get the best deal? :)
Fired Up 4 Kate@MiloandJack·56 mins
@Kateplusmy8 Are they paying N real money...or are M & C negotiating chores! LOL
Fired Up 4 Kate@MiloandJack·53 mins
@Kateplusmy8 Are M & C cleaning out the closet? Disposing of the toys in their long lost youth...you know..they are such big girls now? :)
Fired Up 4 Kate@MiloandJack·27 mins
@Kateplusmy8 U just said U negotiate issues between kids all the time...looks like they all are learning from the #BestNegotiator >> MOM!
Fired Up 4 Kate@MiloandJack·27 mins
@Kateplusmy8 Are the girls better at this...or the boys? #negotiating
That "Hear me very clearly" lead-in to HH's what-else-can-I-do speech
is so freaking defensive. Doth the lady protest too much?
Before she was a, heaven help us, TV personality, she was a nurse. She was lucky enough to have chosen a recession-proof career.
Plenty of jobs to be had in all manner of situations - hospital, clinic,
doctor's office, billing from home, advice nurse, etc. During the
school year, her kids are out of the equation for about 8 hours a day. She could get a job in a heartbeat. A well-paying one at that. Could there be challenges to it? Sure. There might be some schedule juggling here and there. But this woman managed to drop everything and run to NYC for about a month for CA! So she seems to have a
knack for schedule juggling when it's to suit her agenda.
Oh, how I wish one reporter would have the guts to press the issue about her not getting a "real" job, and present the facts as we know
them!
Paging Auntie Ann! I need a dunce cap, please. I screwed up on the "forced to hobble."
I'll gladly chip in for the craft supplies! Do I get a choice of colors?
And Milo has gone bonkers with these
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Add this latest one to the list:
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 2m
@Kateplusmy8 "TWO bananas & U get my undivided attn 4the nite...I'll stay right on your shoulder" #ZorrosTradingPost Any takers?? :)
She might as well tweet "Kate, I'm here!! See me waving' at ya! Pay attention to ME!"
She tweeted this the other day. She must have been talking about herself.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · Jun 20
Every family has ONE WEIRD relative. If you don't know WHO it is, it's probably YOU! LOL
Ya got that one right, Milo!!
I see Seaworld has a propaganda commercial out about how it's essential they do this work to save the whales.
I'm sorry what does a whale jumping up in the air and splashing an audience with his tail have to do with conservation?
This is like any exploitation, they justify it because it's educational or whatever other lame reason. But you can't justify something that is fundamentally wrong no matter how hard they try and the public gets it.
Kate Gosselin@Kateplusmy8·1 hr
So entertaining to see my kids negotiating...Mady&Caras old toys-->Little kids want them-->Willing to pay! #GosselinTradingPost #LifeSkills
And Milo has gone bonkers with these:
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Can you imagine living with someone like that? She makes the "real" Gladys look like an socially shy introvert. I wonder if her family (if she has one) sticks fingers in their ears and says, "shutupshutupshut up with the hundred questions."
And then the sheeple have the um, balls to say that the non-fans are nosy and if Kate wants to reveal something she will because it's none of our business. I wonder if Milo doesn't secretly drive them nuts, too.
Remona Blue said... 157
I think KK was getting a sick thrill out of beating Maddy and I think she got a sick thrill out of hurting her as well.
Maddy did push KK it was all most like she shoved her.
She tweeted this the other day. She must have been talking about herself.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · Jun 20
Every family has ONE WEIRD relative. If you don't know WHO it is, it's probably YOU! LOL
Ya got that one right, Milo!!
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I saw that and thought the same thing! LOL
Suzy said... 166
Upon seeing one of the younger girls shove Collin after he was taunting Mady for losing & another girl joining in the shoving & pushing, I thought that was an odd reaction as the taunting wasn't directed at them & Mady didn't even notice him, it appears. It seems these girls have a lot of anger directed at Collin. Why are they still using their fists to push & shove people at age 10? That's all kate's fault! What poor parenting skills she has.
Suzy
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This is what she has reaped. From day one, J and K ignored the pushing, hitting, fighting amongst the kids. She controls EVERYTHING except that. Which reminds me, I was thinking, can you imagine controlling EVERYTHING in the house in order to make it perfect with 8 kids living there? "Masterminding" chores and to-do lists for everything from recording chickenshit to vacuuming needles to how to do this and that? No wonder she's exhaustedish!
Kate Gosselin@Kateplusmy8·1 hr
So entertaining to see my kids negotiating...Mady&Caras old toys-->Little kids want them-->Willing to pay! #GosselinTradingPost #LifeSkills
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Oh why doesn't she just shut up already with the lifeskills bullshit. She shouldn't even be allowed to raise a potted plant.
Oh why doesn't she just shut up already with the lifeskills bullshit. She shouldn't even be allowed to raise a potted plant.
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I was thinking the same thing. Now she's on this "life skills" kick. Milo should buy her a Chia Pet Sheep to see if she can keep it alive.
Whatever happened to just handing down your old toys? That's ridiculous! Reminds me of the time TFW went into the twins' room for the first time in months, apparently, and threw all sorts of stuff down the stairs. The twins were not much older than the tups are now
chefsummer said... 173
Remona Blue said... 157
I think KK was getting a sick thrill out of beating Maddy and I think she got a sick thrill out of hurting her as well.
Maddy did push KK it was all most like she shoved her.
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What I said @557 was ''I didn't see an actual shove by Mady. What I saw was WOS making a (smiling) show of trying to hug Mady after humiliating her and Mady attempting to escape from WOS hug by pushing away her ARMS, not wanting faux sympathy! Maybe I'm wrong but to ME, that isn't Mady shoving anyone.''
I just watched it again and in my opinion Mady pushed TCFW's ARMS that were around Mady. To ME that is not a shove, that was Mady trying to escape from the idiot's fake hug.
You see things differently. OK. We're not going to change each others minds, so I'm moving on.
This trading post twittersode is letting us know the kids are with her.
It also scans with the "piecing and patching" storyline. See, the
kids aren't spoiled rotten - the littles want their older siblings' toys.
Then again, she may be home alone with the bird...
Why can't Mady and Cara just GIVE their younger siblings their old toys. They're not using them. Geez!
After finishing the recap it's clear to me they don't even like their siblings. In fact I think they hate them. How sad.
I had a different take on C.'s role in the post-game melee. I thought he was standing behind/with M, not taunting her. And I didn't think the tup who shoved him was angry at him, I thought she did it out of pure meanness, to get her siblings into trouble and then gloat.
Even though I interpreted the details differently, I agree that there is a really bad dynamic in that family, and that J and K encouraged it by letting the kids go feral at a young age.
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Auntie, can I please have a dunce cap for confusing Jenna and Cara? Purple preferred, no glitter necessary.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 181
Why can't Mady and Cara just GIVE their younger siblings their old toys. They're not using them. Geez!
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I can't believe it. Some family. Most kids just willingly hand off their old toys to their kid brothers and sisters. Another wonderful learned behavior from their tight-wad mother and her consignment issues. Imagine taking clothes you've grifted and selling them to get cash on top of the freebies. Good God.
Sigh.
Looking forward to your recap of the "ratings-gold" special Admin...
And what ever happened to pay it forward? That's a "life lesson."
I was the oldest. I get it, the younger ones get free access to all your stuff. That was a bit annoying as a kid. I had no stream of free stuff flowing down to me. But it does eventually go the other way. You'll get stuff too especially in adulthood. Sigh, and no matter, because it's just NICE to give your siblings things without anything in return but a smile.
Remona Blue said... 179
We both could be right.
I think we saw it differently i saw that Kate was taunting Maddy and M was mad at Kate so she pushed her away along with her fake hug.
Shoot if Maddy had pushed Kate any harder Kate would've fell backwards.
Why are the fans calling the haters "bleeple?" Who is the Einstein who came up with that? Do they know what it means, and that it's clearly racist?
Would they even care if they did know?
Remona Blue said... 179
I just watched it again and in my opinion Mady pushed TCFW's ARMS that were around Mady. To ME that is not a shove, that was Mady trying to escape from the idiot's fake hug.
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I watched in stop-motion (but unfortunately not frame-by-frame) and that's what I saw too. M pushed K's arms away. K was invading M's personal space so she (K) wouldn't look like the witch she is. Too late.
Math Girl said... 182
I had a different take on C.'s role in the post-game melee. I thought he was standing behind/with M, not taunting her. And I didn't think the tup who shoved him was angry at him, I thought she did it out of pure meanness, to get her siblings into trouble and then gloat.
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Auntie, can I please have a dunce cap for confusing Jenna and Cara? Purple preferred, no glitter necessary.
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Oh heck, they look pretty good with glitter. You should see Flimsy's , NJGal's and mine. They double as party hats.
Where does Kate get off bragging about teaching her kids about winning when the end result is a brawl and basically a cheater's win. What if Mady really was hurt? She should have called a time-out at least and taken a look at her daughter's knee instead of taking advantage of her injury, fake or not.
Why can't Mady and Cara just GIVE their younger siblings their old toys. They're not using them. Geez!
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Because Kate's the only one in the family that's allowed to get freebies.
All right folks recap's up. Enjoy!
I ate ate!
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