Osbourne also explained that people in the business, like Gilbert's legendary family, have a much better understanding of how the industry works than ill-prepared and naive reality T.V. families from middle America: "It's our industry. We know what we're going to get, you know what you're not going to get. So therefore, it's a whole different thing."
http://www.cbs.com/shows/the_talk/video/udVZeYSOtYRxGvlt7zt5sB6tB6y0KCS7/the-talk-7-16-2014/
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Well I see Hoffie is riding this #MoneyTrain 4all he can get off @Kateplusmy8 Sells bits & pieces of his trash "tell all" comic bk 2ROL!
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But Milo you just tweeted the book was a flop so which is it a money train or a flop?
At least my childhood was not documented, dissected, analyzed, made into YouTube videos by strangers, or sold to the highest bidder.
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Not to mention ogled by guys like Blankinshit.
Aww it's time for rainbow farts.
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Yes. It's 11 p.m. Do you know where your LOM is? I wonder if he appreciates those rainbow farts in bed.
Rhymes with Witch said... 196
This Colllie person. Has she been around long? 169
She's been around for quite some time and has changed her name a bunch of times. I can't remember all of them, but she's had a hope in her heart, ins. problems, kidneys working at 50%, known all sorts of important people, been there, done that (whatever that may be). She's just one amazing ph without the d. Her sister has the d. Or vice versa. Hard to keep up.
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Oh, and let's not forget, she went to high school with a set of IDENTICAL quintuplets! Yes, she did. :)
Not to mention ogled by guys like Blankinshit.
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Oops. Sorry about that. I meant Blankinship, but I guess the misspelling works too.
chefsummer said... 7
But Milo you just tweeted the book was a flop so which is it a money train or a flop?
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Exactly. lol! Make up your mind.
The comic book is gaining momemtum. Pretty soon EVERYONE is going to want to read it.
Gladys will be shitting bricks when ole "Hoffie" is trending.
Sleepless In Seattle said... 9
I wonder if he appreciates those rainbow farts in bed.
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HAHA! "Milo! Dang it anyway. You talkin to that Kate woman again?!!"
Sleepless In Seattle said... 9
Aww it's time for rainbow farts.
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Yes. It's 11 p.m. Do you know where your LOM is? I wonder if he appreciates those rainbow farts in bed.
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I think he's trying to put Milo to bed.
Well I see Hoffie is riding this #MoneyTrain 4all he can get off @Kateplusmy8
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Lol wait substitute in TFW for Hoffie and kids for @KatePlus8 and it still works!
Hypocrite.
I've never been to Alaska. I'd like to, but there's retirement for that. Maybe one of those god awful cruises. I heard they're actually quite fun and easy when it comes to Alaska.
I don't feel deprived or like I missed some kind of experience. I never knew anyone on the east coast growing up who had been. It's FAR. I've seen many other things for quite cheap. It's easier and cheaper to go to Europe from the east coast. If anything they probably just made other kids jealous which doesn't help when a kid just wants to fit in.
Haters..they ARE NOT YOUR KIDS! U have NO say in how she raises them!
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No matter how many times you explain this to them they don't get it. Kate has made herself a public figure. In fact her entire image revolves around Kate as a mother and parent. As such, we can freely comment on her mothering, parenting, anything else she puts out there, and we can certainly comment on her kids and how she raises them if we want to.
We can even speculate how the kids feel and it doesn't matter if you don't like that. Deal with it. It's America.
If she does not like this, she is free to remove herself from the public eye with a polite request to be left alone, and I will honor that. She has made her choice to be public, and your issue is really with her choice, not us.
She has made her choice to be public, and your issue is really with her choice, not us.
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I think this is the point in the argument where they cover their ears and go lalalala. It's a real conundrum that messes up their little sheep brains. And what's even more difficult for them to understand is if we're not free to express our opinions of Kate, neither are they.
Gladys...they ARE NOT YOUR KIDS. Please stop asking about
what they're doing, where they're going, who won the lacrosse
game, who's doing the best negotiating when they sell their toys
to each other. They ARE NOT YOUR KIDS. #Creepy
And what's even more difficult for them to understand is if we're not free to express our opinions of Kate, neither are they. 19
Auntie, there you go with that gosh darned logic again.
I don't know if this is true, but I've read that sheep cannot go backward. If so, reflection and mind changing are not an option.
July 17, 2014 at 9:30 PM
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Haters..they ARE NOT YOUR KIDS! U have NO say in how she raises them!
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No matter how many times you explain this to them they don't get it. Kate has made herself a public figure. In fact her entire image revolves around Kate as a mother and parent. As such, we can freely comment on her mothering, parenting, anything else she puts out there, and we can certainly comment on her kids and how she raises them if we want to.
We can even speculate how the kids feel and it doesn't matter if you don't like that. Deal with it. It's America.
If she does not like this, she is free to remove herself from the public eye with a polite request to be left alone, and I will honor that. She has made her choice to be public, and your issue is really with her choice, not us.
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Admin- You hit the nail on the head!! TFW wants the fame, fortune and fan worship that go along with her "chosen career," but refuses to accept any of the consequences/feedback that go along with her choices.
Look at ME!!! I am putting myself out for all to see, for fame, as well as my kids, but don't dare criticize me. Goes with her choice; if you put yourself out there, some will like you, some won't. I think the majority of posters don't care what she does solo (unless she is spinning mistruths,) but when she puts her kids out there constantly, to make money, we are entitled to our opinions. Especially selling out you kids with twitter photos and comments. STOP TFW- How about some privacy for your kids? Yet she allegedly "hated" when paparazzi photographed her? Not really, she would call many of them in advance to take photos and later cry victim.
Didn't she say she would work at McDonald's to support her kids? And when is the last time she had a steady job? The McDonald's claim was ridiculous, just like everything else she says. None of it ever happens, just spin, spin and spin.
I honestly don't care what this "no talent" person does, but leave your kids to lead a private life. Many can see the filming and invasion of their privacy has taken a toll. Why can't TFW??
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Daryl Hall? Love that guy! Have you seen any of the YouTube videos in which he has various singers/bands come to his house and sing? Watch the one where he sings "Moneygrabber" with Fitz and the Tantrums. My favorite. I can't wait to watch his new show.
Re: hiring and firing help/.Kate mentioned in her CWS Manual that 'helpers' could not take the stress, only SHE could deal with the running of her household.As if everyone quit due to the stress- maybe the woman who was screeched at for putting yogurt in the fridge ( a volunteer) but not all the nannies and cleaners etc Good excuse.She also let on that the CWS Mom might break her breadmaker and not dare not to be 'exhausedish' every evening.. I think she added things to make the job harder- like it was conveniently time to buy more heavy bird seed when likely Forrest really carries it in for her.
Read about T's mice issue.
25(egads time flies!!!) yrs ago, we lived in the country. One winter mice decided to move in with us. I lost count on how many I caught. I finally stumbled across those electronic noise emitters that are supposed to make them flee...
It worked. never had mice again.
I put one of those electronic things in each room of the house. They do not cause harm to your pets. :)
Concerning the washer odor, I am surprised no one has said that 'V" word.
VINEGAR.
Where is Dmasy when you need her?
JCB
If you'd like some free entertainment, the comments on these Radar
articles are good times! Dozens and dozens of comments from the same people over and over, getting into online shouting matches over
someone they claim not to give a half a hoot about.
And if you're over 21, you can turn it into a drinking game - do a
shot every time they say "I can't stand the woman," "8 mouths
to feed," or "deadbeat ex!"
but when she puts her kids out there constantly, to make money, we are entitled to our opinions
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This is what the sheep doesn't get.
We don't care what Kate does just as as long as she not hurting the kids or using them to stay in the limelight she can do whatever she wants just as long as it on her own.
Kate can be on as many TV shows as she wants to just leave the kids alone.
Kate can be on as many TV shows as she wants to just leave the kids alone.
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Well, actually, she can't. NOBODY WANTS HER. ;)
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Yes, not on youtube but his show, Daryl's house. It is just amazing his career, his levelheaded greatness and he has musicians come to HIS house, jam and make wonderful music and SHARES the spotlight with others. I love his house. It is so inviting, warm. Amazing.
The closest I ever got to Daryl and John was in 1983 they were in concert and my ex and I went, I posted about it before. My ex and I were driving around the arena, hardly any traffic and we passed their limo and I saw D and J in the back seat, J close to us and Daryl on the opposite side. It was so exciting to see them. We were on the floor, no seats and kinda far back. We were closer to them out on the street than inside the arena!
Just think if kate had Daryl's ideas. Be nice, play fair, work hard, content with your life and family and friends, achieve real success, share, love your work, treat your friends and co-workers with respect, kindness and no taking advantage or being unkind to your fans. She would be in a much better place and happy.
Sad. She needs a complete medical mental evaluation and meds, meds, MEDS!
The Book sold a lot of books yesterday. Just in July in 18 days it has sold 1,142. June and July sales are 1,714. Avg. 69 books per day it started selling. Avg. July sales only, 63.4 per day!
I have started tweeting a take off on her other book, I just want you to know. I tweet: Read what Kate Gosselin doesn't want you to know! The book title and link to Amazon. I tweeted it to the Talk and 267K followers saw it.
This really reminds me of kate's book I want you to know, like OJ's like IF I DID IT. Because she was abusive in that book toward her kids!!! The Book Robert wrote with her own "Mommy's Journal", is the
OJ's, I DID IT!!!! Even Casey Anthony's book ghostwriter is now believing she did it. Mason Chaney or Chaney Mason whatever her attorney told him it didn't matter if she did it or not according to him. This is on ROL.
GO ROBERT GO!
Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said... 28
Kate can be on as many TV shows as she wants to just leave the kids alone.
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Well, actually, she can't. NOBODY WANTS HER. ;)
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We all know this but I was just that saying to be nice lol.
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Haters..they ARE NOT YOUR KIDS! U have NO say in how she raises them!
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But Milo, by putting those kids on TV and in the public eye, she made it our business!!
Kate, your idol, even said so herself when she appeared on Larry King in February 2009. Here's her words, direct from the transcript:
KING: Kate Gosselin -- by the way, the star of TLC's "Jon and Kate Plus 8," with multiple -- do you think your multiple children are our business?
K. GOSSELIN: Well, with our reality show, obviously, we put them out there. And, you know, our goal in our show is to show the real life of what it is like to have two sets of multiples. And basically, essentially, we've made it your business.
Straight from Kate's mouth. I'll repeat "we've made it your business"
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0902/02/lkl.01.html
JCB, I am here!
Someone else whispered the Vinegar word!
Thanks for remembering.
And the hits just keep on coming.
http://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/kate-gosselin-reportedly-sold-her-clothing-gifted-to-her-children-40585
PJ
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I looked, and wow! What's the point of all that back-and-forth arguing? None of them will ever change anyone else's opinion. It's pointless. And then that CJ person jumps in and starts talking lawsuits and legal fees and subpoenas. Does she think she's going to sue every person who ever said anything bad about Kate? She and BV have been promising this massive lawsuit for years now, and nothing ever came of it.
Admin, maybe you have some better insight into this. Doesn't it have to be the person who is harmed in some way that has to file the lawsuit? What can CJ or BV claim as damages? They have both dished out more then they ever got.
I remember my DH's grandfather (a retired judge--died years ago so I can't go to him with my questions) saying that the person with the money to fight is going to be the one to win a lawsuit most of the time. If you have money, you can use it to dig up dirt on your opponent and use it against them. Nobody is ever completely innocent, and everyone has secrets. CJ and BV, if they someday go through with whatever it is they think they are going to do, should be very careful that they don't cross somebody with the money to fight back. They both have a lot to hide.
Dear TFW - if the goal of your show was to show the real life of what
it is like to have 2 sets of multiples, you did that. Yeaaaaaaars ago.
So hats off to a job well done.
She "basically, essentially" made it our business. But not "honestly."
No wonder the fans are in an uproar - clearly she didn't mean it!
Oops. Sorry about that. I meant Blankinship, but I guess the misspelling works too 11
it works so well that I thought you did ot on purpose. :)
Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said... 28
Kate can be on as many TV shows as she wants to, just leave the kids alone.
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Well, actually, she can't. NOBODY WANTS HER. ;)
-Agreed! : ). Who actually wants to film her solo?
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 4h
@MY_2BCOLLIES @Kateplusmy8 Doesn't matter WHY she was crying...kids get upset..w/8 ur lucky 2get them all smiley at one time! So what? LOL
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LOL? What the hell does that mean? Does Milo really believe that adding those 3 letters in caps gives any credence whatsoever to watch she's tweeting?
Did she even look at the picture? Mady is more than "not being smiley", she's crying her eyes out and clearly VERY distressed.
It's been reported that there was a major issue and that Mady did not want to be there. Where the hell do the sheeple get "she was worried about not getting her shoes/feet wet"?
BTW, does Kate even look like she cares? Not one iota. A decent parent would not have let that photo be taken and would have put her child's distress before any fuckin' photo shoot.
Stuff it Milo and Marie, you are defending a child/animal abusing famewhore who has handed over her children's privacy and well being for her own pseudo celebrity.
Love how neither of you are the least bit concerned about these children's welfare EXCEPT when it comes to their father, who happens to be the only parent trying to respect their privacy.
And if it's none of our business because THEY ARE NOT OUR KIDS, well then it most certainly isn't any of yours either. So stfu!
So sick of these nimrods.
Doesn't matter WHY she was crying…kids get upset..
Does Milo ever read what she writes? She just said it doesn't matter why a child was crying. It DOESN'T MATTER? Does any mom here agree with her? I certainly don't! If one of my kids cries, I want to know why. I want to know what is making him so sad, and what can be done to make him feel better. Ignoring your child's pain is just bad parenting. It shows a complete lack of caring for your child's emotions. Add me to the list of people who don't believe Milo is a mother. No mother would ever think something like that, let alone post it for people to see.
Purest speculation on my part, but I think that Kate became very un-nerved by her experience in Alaska. She was thrown up against Sarah Palin, which clearly made her very uncomfortable. ...
I agree with un-nerved. TFW was clearly rattled from the moment she knocked on Sarah's front door. It was written all over her face.
Kate's interactions with others only work (in her mind) when she has the upper hand, when she has control.
There you have the crux of the problem at the Palin's. She had no control. It was Sarah's house...by default Sarah had control.
TFW, being a guest, had control over nothing other than her children, and not even them very much. Look what she had to do to regain control of her kids. Threaten to leave them with the Palin's as she left for parts unknown.
The kids were clearly having a fabulous time...with the men of the Palin family happily entertaining them. Can't have that!
Funny how it was ok for Jamie/Ashley to entertain the kids while TFW did nothing, but not ok Sarah Palin's father or brother to entertain them. TFW really has a problem with men, doesn't she.
At that point it wasn't all about TFW, it was about the family enjoying each other. And that's what TFW couldn't stand...it wasn't about her. No one was paying any attention to her or her antics.
The men in the family seemed to be studiously ignoring her. Teehee.
Think of Todd Palin telling Sarah that he'd just stay over here fishing...no reason...he just liked it over here better, as he gives Sarah an inscrutable look.
Tossed into a situation where she is expected to treat Palin as an equal, she clearly hated it.
I disagree here....TFW was expected to kowtow to the Palins, IMO...and that's what she hated. She kowtows to no one!
By default, Sarah was higher in the pecking order:
She was the host, TFW was the guest.
Sarah is an ex-governor and presidential candidate, TFW is uh....
Sarah had secret service around, TFW had Steve.
Sarah seemed fairly connected with her kids....I don't imagine she had to ask Piper if she liked basketball...TFW couldn't have cared less about her kids (and still doesn't)
Sarah appeared to have a ton of family support, TFW had....Steve?
TFW had 8 little kids, but Sarah had grandchildren
Sarah had a reality show about traveling Alaska which is pretty interesting to most people I would think, TFW had a reality show about me! me! did you see me! ... I mean where she show-cased abusing and exploiting her husband & kids, not all that interesting to most people.
TFW was low on the totem pole in that situation. No way in hell was she putting up with that for more than a nanosecond!
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-Agreed! : ). Who actually wants to film her solo?
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I laughed at Sharon Osbourne when Julie asked that same question on The Talk:
"She's not interesting. She's boooring."
I wonder what Kate threw at the tv when she watched that and how many of the kids had a bad day because of it. I'll bet she's in one ugly, mean state of mind right about now, more than usual, if that's even possible. This is not going well.
Clap ,Clap, Clap, Clap, (not golf clapping but real applause) Sheri You said a mouthful in the second paragraph from the end. Cut, Jib, Newsletter!!!
She just said it doesn't matter why a child was crying. It DOESN'T MATTER?
What kind of a human being is that??? The first thing I do when I see a kid in distress is squat down at face level with them, or take them onto my lap, and ask how can I help. Even if they're just having a temper tantrum about something, asking how you can help enables them to calm themselves.
The picture could have waited, couldn't it?
Mel said... 44
Sarah is an ex-governor and presidential candidate, TFW is uh....
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"TFW is uh..." lol!
Wow, great insight in your post Mel. BAM!
@MiloandJack: @Realitytea @intouchweekly @Kateplusmy8 LOL My thoughts exactly! One day laid in a ditch 4hrs 2catch sight of her/take a pic! #ObsessedMan
Obsessed man or paparazzi? I do believe he was being paid by one of the rag mags at the time and TFW was his assignment. This is what paparazzi do Milo - they lay and wait hoping to get that million dollar photo AND they follow the subject wherever they go. Milo, the same could be said of you #obsessedwomanontwitter
-Agreed! : ). Who actually wants to film her solo?
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Milo would love to see KK filmed solo.
Does Milo ever read what she writes? She just said it doesn't matter why a child was crying. It DOESN'T MATTER? Does any mom here agree with her?
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Exactly.
But KK was crying and whining and being a giant baby. I bet Milo wanted to comfort KK forget the kids it's all about Kate.
I'm not a mom and thought it was f-ed-up what Kate was doing in Alaska.
YEP! She wanted the trip but could not deal with any one else getting a spot light.
Kids wanted to stay, clearly, as they were having fun. But if Kate isn't happy, no one else will be allowed to.
BEGINNING OF HER DOWNFALL AS SHE CAN NOT GET ALONG WITH ANYONE, IMO. Her way or the highway!!!!!!!
Do any of these boobs defending Kate's selling all the FREE clothing which was donated or given for product placement realize that if Kate actually DONATED, she could have received a tax deduction, and thus, still benefited, but in a much more morally and civically-minded way.
That would have been the right thing to do.
That's called, paying it forward.
TFW is not the brightest, and clearly does not understand tax breaks, as she has rarely donated anything, unless TLC paid for it. Never mind the zillion donations she received - one way street and always about her piecing and patching.(Not too bright!).
Layla said...(43)
Doesn't matter WHY she was crying…kids get upset..
Does Milo ever read what she writes? She just said it doesn't matter why a child was crying. It DOESN'T MATTER? Does any mom here agree with her? I certainly don't! If one of my kids cries, I want to know why. I want to know what is making him so sad, and what can be done to make him feel better. Ignoring your child's pain is just bad parenting. It shows a complete lack of caring for your child's emotions. Add me to the list of people who don't believe Milo is a mother. No mother would ever think something like that, let alone post it for people to see.
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No kidding Layla. I could not, would not, ever stand by posing for some stupid publicity shot while my kid was so clearly upset.
And of course it matters why. The thing is, at first Milo/Marie, whichever, tried to make the argument that Mady was not crying about not wanting to be there but because she was worried about getting her feet wet.
Why would you try to explain the tears if it doesn't matter. The reason is matters is because Kate told the viewing audience that if ever anyone didn't want to film, that's it they're done.
The photo PROVES that Kate is lying liar who lies. The photo PROVES that Kate is more interested in getting her fugly mug photographed than her own child's distress. The photo PROVES that Kate is a fuckin' narcissistic bitch who doesn't give a rat's ass about her children's happiness.
If there's no photo, it didn't happen, right Sheep? Well, there's the photo, it bloody well happened.
That's called, paying it forward.
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But Kate DID give away some things for free. She gave away her books and her pictures when she had her 2 not-a-contests. To Kate, that's her way of paying it forward.
Of course, the contestants had to do what she told them to do--promote Kate plus 8 and do random acts of kindness. Why should she bother, when she could get her tweeties to do it instead?
Gosselin Book @GosselinBook · 6m
@Kateplusmy8 Kate Gosselin: How She Fooled The World PRINT EDITION AVAILABLE NOW! https://www.createspace.com/3585720
Add me to the list of people who don't believe Milo is a mother. No mother would ever think something like that, let alone post it for people to see.
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I'm not so sure about that. I don't know what to think anymore. Where's that poster who flew by here and said that Milo's identity will soon be known? It hasn't happened.
I once thought that Milo was just an obsessed fan (man or woman) in a facility and had no teenage children...maybe grown adults who left her there, but not teens. I'm thinking, though, that since she seems to love so much attention, has taken command of the Twitter sheep, keeps going and going and going with her utter ignorant comments, goes into self-exile when ignored, that she's really as much of a narcissist as Kate is.
As such, if she does have kids, she probably doesn't care that much about them because everything is about her. As a mother and a narcissist, wouldn't her tweets reflect that, and her comments would be exactly the same as she droned on about yesterday? The "who cares" and "what does it matter" would indicate that it's all about Kate, and Milo, if she is a mother, would share the same thoughts. Kids are secondary. She tweeted yesterday that the children belonged to Kate. In fact, Kate once said that the children are extensions of herself. Isn't this classic narcissist thinking?
I've donated each yr to various agencies, etc...and when inputting the data, it doesn't change my tax refund one cent.
Ate took those clothes to the consignment shop for CASH- free, unreported income....it actually benefits her pocketbook to do the consignment. That's why she does it. (so not only did TLC dress her kids for free, she got a nice little check at the end).
JCB
I wonder where Intouch got that $2.5 million figure. If that were true, she is indeed starting to run low on cash considering what little she has done since the show was cancelled. That low amount (can't believe I am saying that) is not going to last until the kids leave home. I bet she spends in total for everything $15,000-$20,000 a month.
Milo should as a mother or-(a father)-what Maddy was going through.
I tried consigning my kids clothes a time or two, and I found it not worth the amount of time it took for the pennies on the dollar I'd end up with. These were clothes from the current popular teen mall stores, all in excellent condition. They (the store employees) act like they're doing you a favor by taking these on trend, almost new clothes off your hands
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It depends on the store. I found that the ones where they take the clothing and you have to wait for them to sell the items before you get a check really aren't worth it. You could be waiting months for a few dollars. There are some, though, where the employees are really nice, they look over your clothing and make an offer and then pay you cash on the spot. It's up to them to sell them and you don't have to wait for a check. You can decide right there if it's worth it to you, or if you'd rather donate to a clothing bank.
I've done both...sold at a shop, and also donated locally. If I have some really high-quality expensive barely worn (or not worn at all) adult clothing, I might take them to the shop and get some pocket money. With kids' clothing, though, I'll generally donate everything to our local clothing banks. I usually have such a volume of used and out-grown clothing that I know kids could use, so I go that route. It doesn't make sense to drag boxes and boxes to the consignment shop and have them go through each piece.
She gave away her books
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No one wants her books-(besides the sheep) the dollar store doesn't want her books.
And she might have actually made out better donating for a tax break. The fair market value is often significantly higher than what you can sell it for. If I have a blender worth 50 bucks now but the only person who I can find who will buy it will only give me five bucks, it makes a hell of a lot more sense to donate and write off 50.
For anyone with vigilant mice, topping the peanut butter with a little Nestle Quick works for us every single time.
I just got my interwebz back after a three day hostage stand off with my next door neighbor the field irrigator. The Diva stopped moving in a space that blocked my signal so I'm reading like a crazy dog woman. Glad I got the tip about The Talk and am heading there now.
JCB, I am here!
Someone else whispered the Vinegar word!
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Vinegar! I was cooking with hot oil last week, some splashed on my arm -- really nasty burn. I ran my wrist under room temp water for about 10 minutes and splashed vinegar on it, patted it dry, and then poured more vinegar on it. I'll have some scars, but it really killed the pain immediately and there were no blisters. I have no idea if that's the right treatment for burns, but it certainly worked for me.
I've got an off topic question. I received a new iPad air as an early bday present. I need some recommendations for covers/ stands/ keyboards. I'm generally pretty gentle with my stuff and don't want something bulky. This is my first iPad and I'm super stoked and hopefully won't drop it before I get some sort of protection for it. :-)
I wish to the high Heavens that Nev and Max find out who Milo is. I am so sick of her undying devotion to her idol ate. The best thing for ate to do is shut down the sewage plant on her twitter. You boast on your twitter page that your kids would be so proud! Your shocked, Me too!
I am shocked. Shell shocked to be more specific that you would not shut down the sewage plant your TL has become. People have threated Jon with threats, wish he were in a coma, asked very personal questions about your children, weird creepy things about your children and you personally have posted some of the creepiest pictures of your kids and your bird nesting in you cleavage.
Why do you allow this?
Oops. Sorry about that. I meant Blankinship, but I guess the misspelling works too 11
No apologies needed. I thought it was appropriate.
JMO it is graduated by your tax bracket and is actually inverse. In that the more you make the bigger your deduction. So Kate who was making millions is even better off by donating than the mediocre.
However everyone does get something. If you are not seeing a reduction for a qualified charity have someone look at it. There may be something gone wrong in the return.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 58
And she might have actually made out better donating for a tax break. The fair market value is often significantly higher than what you can sell it for. If I have a blender worth 50 bucks now but the only person who I can find who will buy it will only give me five bucks, it makes a hell of a lot more sense to donate and write off 50.
July 18, 2014 at 10:21 AM
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This is why I donate almost everything.
I have a few pieces of furniture that I might consign or try to sell Ebay/Craigslist, but honestly, donating is so much easier.
Sure, I might pocket more money, but many organizations with pick it up for free, take it away, and I get a little break on my taxes.
At this point, the money spent for this stuff is long since spent.
I not looking to recuperate much.
Is it me or...this whole clothes donation thing is the least of what this monster con artist is capable of ....I find this a little on the petty end of what shes done. I hope they start mentioning how she conned church goers out of thousands of dollars. I would rather have her criminal activity and abuse exposed...the clothes thing is small potatoes...
The part I don't think has been adequately stressed about this
consignment thing is that many, many, many people and
companies donated to this family under the delusion that
they were IN NEED. They were not. So first we have TFW
grabbing the stuff with both hands ("Who am I to say no?),
which is bad enough. But it adds insult to injury when those
donations, given out kindness and compassion, goes to line
TFW's already filled pockets.
Bring on the print edition, Robert! Someone's going to have a
frowny face in the mansion today, and it ain't Zorro...
I hope the print edition comes to Amazon for a reasonable price soon!
Is anyone else having trouble with the CBS player? It will play the commercial and then just freezes.
Kelly, I couldn't play the video either...but I know some people did.
Sherry Baby said... 66
I was cooking with hot oil last week, some splashed on my arm -- really nasty burn. I ran my wrist under room temp water for about 10 minutes and splashed vinegar on it, patted it dry, and then poured more vinegar on it. I'll have some scars, but it really killed the pain immediately and there were no blisters. I have no idea if that's the right treatment for burns, but it certainly worked for me.
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Cold water for burns, for much longer than is comfortable (10 minutes is good). Run over, or better still immerse. The coldest water you can get out of your tap. Renew it if the water gets warm.
Some of the damage of a burn is done immediately, but damage to the deeper tissue continues over time.
I heard this once on the CBC and have sworn by it since. Once had a co-worker spill most of a cup of boiling coffee on her hand and wrist. I insisted she run it under cold water even after the cold water was making her hurt. Later in the day, she said "I don't know what the fuss was about. The skin isn't even red now." Doh.
Formerly Duped said... 74
I hope the print edition comes to Amazon for a reasonable price soon!
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Go to Robert's blog. The print edition is available now. The price is very reasonable. Thanks, Robert.
My mom saw Kate on tv and said she looks soooooo old and looks like a lush. She says Kate use to be pretty but she looks way beyond her years now. I laughed. My mom is an RN and is head nurse supervisor of the alcohol and drug detox unit at hospital which specializes in additions. She has seen it all. I think she got Kates number spot on.
JR.........72
I agree with you. I think that many people can actually justify the exploitation and the selling of clothes on consignment . Many will say" hey someone has to feed those kids, I'm not going to feed them with my tax dollars".
But the abuse and taking money from the church people when she was already rich was inexcusable!!!! Hope the media starts writing about some of the horrific things she did ( does ) to her kids.
I was reading in Robert's book how Kate says God is talking to her about things that benefit her. I do thing that someone is talking to her but with a whole different zip code! She is such a lying bitch.
Layla said... 37
FlimsyFlamsy (26)
I looked, and wow! What's the point of all that back-and-forth arguing? None of them will ever change anyone else's opinion. It's pointless. And then that CJ person jumps in and starts talking lawsuits and legal fees and subpoenas. Does she think she's going to sue every person who ever said anything bad about Kate? She and BV have been promising this massive lawsuit for years now, and nothing ever came of it.
Admin, maybe you have some better insight into this. Doesn't it have to be the person who is harmed in some way that has to file the lawsuit? What can CJ or BV claim as damages? They have both dished out more then they ever got.
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I read something on viaviewfiles about "clean hands". You can't go to court and cry about something when you've been doing the same thing for years. If either one of them sue,(fat chance) they'd better be prepared to be buried in screen shots right from the very beginning. They are laughingstocks.
Congratulations Robert. I bought the first book, I bought the second book and I'm buying the dead tree version too. I'll start my Christmas shopping early.
PJ
It depends on your income whether you get any tax benefit. We do not but I always donate anyway. I love that my gently used clothing will help someone in need. ITA Kate wanted the cash from clothes paid for by TLC. She is really despicable. Her not wanting the kids to stain their clothes had NOTHING to do with her claiming to be OCD. Such a con artist: Jon, the churches, etc. She conned us too for a short time but she's not a good enough actress, LOL.
Thanks!! The print edition is available for everyone without an e-reader. Good going, Robert!
It is possible to not get a tax benefit on charitable contributions. You can only use contributions when you itemize deductions. If your itemized deductions (home interest, property taxes, state income taxes, and charitable contributions are typically the biggest) are less than the standard deduction ($12,400 for a married couple), then you get to take the standard deduction.
Until the total of these items exceeds the standard deduction, your tax software will give you the benefit of the standard deduction and you won't see any change by adding more charitable contributions.
Having said that, given what the public records say about what TFW has financed on her McMansion I have no doubt that just her home interest alone pushes her over the point where she can itemize. She took the donated items to consignment simply because she loves to see the cash in her hand.
Kelly said... 75
Is anyone else having trouble with the CBS player? It will play the commercial and then just freezes.
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Kelly, if you have a ad blocker installed on your computer, try disabling it and see if that works. That's what I had to do.
I just ordered the hard copy.
PJ
How in the hell do people like this CJ character get so caught up in this twitter, facebook and whatever else there is.....shut the computer off and take care of your kids. It almost becomes their whole life. She is the sickest puppy on that twitter if you ask me. You wonder how they can get so deeply into this crap....that the "law" actually has to get involved. When it gets to the point where everything else in your life gets neglected or suffers...time to get some help. The funny thing is..it doesn't even scare her...she keeps getting on doing it. When is it enough? When will people like her be satisfied?
I'm not going to buy the DT version as I already have Robert's first two books on Kindle.
I will however spend that $15 - maybe more - on popcorn and butter because I'm not going to miss one minute of watching Kate rotate on that skewer as the media roasts her to a crisp.
Formerly Duped said... 74
I hope the print edition comes to Amazon for a reasonable price soon!
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Since Robert is already selling his Kindle book on Amazon, I'm sure he signed up for the print copy to be sold there too, through the Amazon sales channel. This is from the createspace website detailing how the Amazon sales channel works:
http://tinyurl.com/jvmanfz
This is an excerpt:
When does my book appear for sale on Amazon.com?
Once you approve your book for sale and keep the Amazon.com sales channel enabled within your Member Account, your book will appear for sale on Amazon.com within 5-7 business days.
So hopefully it'll be available direct from Amazon in about a week. I'd rather order directly from Amazon, since I'm a member and all my info is already there and I won't have to create an account at createspace just to order the book. Plus I might be able to get free shipping if I wait until it's on Amazon.
I think I'll just wait the week and keep checking Amazon to see if the print edition is available.
Now that Robert's book is available in print, I suspect TFW
is preparing to tweet more rainbows and unicorns. Or if she's as
desperate as I think she might be, she'll take the kids to another
movie this weekend - Disney's "Planes - Fire & Rescue." It's
about time for a boy twittersode, isn't it? #ThankUMommy #LoveMyBoys #SpecialSons
Someone upthread said some of the rabid fans are "laughinstocks,"
which I read as "laughingsocks." Which, considering their
multiple identities, is quite appropriate!
If you're not going to buy Roberts printed book because you have kindle version 1 or 2 would you please consider donating the $14.88 + whatever tax you might pay to Roberts legal fund. He still has massive legal bills from exposing Kate Gosselin's abuse, fraud etc.,
Thanks!
JR said... 88
How in the hell do people like this CJ character get so caught up in this twitter, facebook and whatever else there is.....shut the computer off and take care of your kids. It almost becomes their whole life. She is the sickest puppy on that twitter if you ask me. You wonder how they can get so deeply into this crap....that the "law" actually has to get involved. When it gets to the point where everything else in your life gets neglected or suffers...time to get some help. The funny thing is..it doesn't even scare her...she keeps getting on doing it. When is it enough? When will people like her be satisfied?
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In CJ's case - I think the woman has some mental issues, so for her, rational thought is apparently not an option. If what I read on other sites is correct (the anti-BV blog in particular, claims to know her name, address and other details about this woman), she is married, has kids, and her husband works for Cisco Systems. But she's clearly a nutcase.
I want to see that book at book stores. I want to see it at Costco. I want the casual browser to look and say, "Hey, this sounds interesting. Low price, why not?" I want everyone who buys the Nat'l Enquirer, People, In Touch to see this book that they've heard about and put it in their cart. I'd even love to see it carried at Target.
PJ
BarbGilmer tweeted a reply to Milo's and BorderCollies' tweets about the book. Looks like at least one fan has some common sense.
Barbara Gilmer @BarbGilmer · 7m
@MiloandJack @MY_2BCOLLIES @Kateplusmy8 For ppl to continually talk about it makes it worse!
Do you think they'll listen?
I think it's the begging for cash/freebies when they already had a million or so and were buying a large home on substantial property that gets people's goats. Even now, when she's clearly wealthy, she still has her hand out for freebies...toilet paper, swim suits, what have you.
That's what people object to. Stop asking for handouts when you already have plenty of assets. Stop crying poor when you're not. You can get by with a lot of crap publicly, but lying is a big no no.
For the smell of cat spray, etc. I use regular charcoal. I put 2 to 3 pellets in a mason jar with a little bit of water in the bottom of the jar. Works great!
Kelly - I couldn't watch The Talk on my iPad so went to the real computer and watched without any problems.
I use a Belkin cover for my iPad. It protects it nicely, it looks good and it puts the iPad to sleep when closed.
No One In Particular said... 92
If you're not going to buy Roberts printed book because you have kindle version 1 or 2 would you please consider donating the $14.88 + whatever tax you might pay to Roberts legal fund. He still has massive legal bills from exposing Kate Gosselin's abuse, fraud etc.,
Thanks!
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I purchased both of Robert's ebooks and plan to buy a few print editions. I also contributed to him through the Pay Pal link on his site but never received an acknowledgement. I suppose one isn't necessary but a thanks might have been nice.
PJ (95),
The book might still become more widely available. It looks like Robert is self-publishing, which means he is bankrolling this endeavor. The ebook has sold close to 2,000 copies, and maybe he was able to use the money from those sales to cover expenses for the print edition. Plus, it allowed him test the waters and see if there was an audience for a hardcover book. Now he can make some money off this print edition and be able to market it widely. At least, I hope so.
Jen said...(100)
"I purchased both of Robert's ebooks and plan to buy a few print editions. I also contributed to him through the Pay Pal link on his site but never received an acknowledgement. I suppose one isn't necessary but a thanks might have been nice."
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Mr. Hoffman went to great lengths to expose Kate Gosselin's abuse and exploitation of her own children.
At great cost to himself financially, and I'm sure emotionally, he decided that for the sake of eight innocent children the truth needed to be told.
And you were expecting a personal thank you?
I'm sure Mr. Hoffman is exceedingly grateful for our support and I think it's unrealistic to expect that he would, or even could if he wanted to, thank each supporter individually.
He's not doing this for us, he's doing it for the kids. We should, and most of us here are, THANKING HIM on behalf of those eight kids.
I ordered the print copy from CreateSpace in paperback. IF it becomes available in Hard Cover, I will buy that version as well. When I clicked on Amazon, it said it wasn't yet available. Is it because I ordered the one from CreateSpace the instant I saw it was for sale?
I'm SO easily confused! lol
T,
I had a mouse die in my garage and the only solution I found for the lingering odor was good ventilation and time.
However, since that happened I've been told to use an odor absorber which might work pretty well in your laundry room's more confined space.
Some suggestions:
Activated charcoal
Nature's Air Sponge Odor Absorber - Ace Hdwr
OdoBan - Solid Odor Absorber
I had always assumed that Mady was crying in the Alaska pic because she had allegedly been strongly "disciplined" by Kate. Perhaps I am mistaken but weren't there rumors that something had happened to Mady's shoulder(?) that was witnessed by someone in the Palin family/camp? Allegedly, didn't TLC have to ask the Palin's to keep this quiet and not report anything? Soon afterward and out of the blue, actor Eric Roberts (Julia's brother) called Kate out as being a child abuser and someone who exploits her children. I remember he said something like " Thank God it's on FILM" and wondering what he was talking about. Perhaps, he had a family member or friend that worked on the show that witnessed Kate's "discipline" techniques?
Sheri, I thanked him profusely in the comment section attached to the Pay Pal donation for all he's done on behalf of the children. A simple thank you to my email address, which he has, would have been nice. I was taught to always say thanks, which I did. Whether he does or doesn't feel the same matters little, I'm simply saying it seems like the right thing to do. It doesn't alter how I feel about him, about the effort he's put into exposing Kate and TLC and others, and I'll still purchase his books and continue to support him.
Remona Blue said... 103
I ordered the print copy from CreateSpace in paperback. IF it becomes available in Hard Cover, I will buy that version as well. When I clicked on Amazon, it said it wasn't yet available. Is it because I ordered the one from CreateSpace the instant I saw it was for sale?
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Remona-I didn't order it from createspace, and I get that it's not available yet, also. I did speak to someone at createspace and they told me in can take 5-7 days for it to appear on amazon, because they have to set up the page info, add "Look inside the book" etc. He did tell me that sometimes the wait may be as few as 2 days.
You can set it up that Amazon emails you when it becomes available. Here is the link to the print book's page.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/150026377X
I want to see that book at book stores. I want to see it at Costco. I want the casual browser to look and say, "Hey, this sounds interesting. Low price, why not?" I want everyone who buys the Nat'l Enquirer, People, In Touch to see this book that they've heard about and put it in their cart. I'd even love to see it carried at Target.
PJ
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Wouldn't it chap her bony a** to have to go to her local Target and turn over all those books.
LOL
JCB
For those of you who ordered 1 or both of Robert's books (I have both, although I don't plan on reading the 2nd--it was difficult enough to read the first one)....
please consider purchasing it and donating it to your local library.
JCB
You know I was just thinking to myself that if Kate is so darn special and has so many true fans then I would love for one of them to explain to me why her specials didn't garner higher ratings than they did. It just proves to me that when she was on CWS those high ratings had more to do with Kendra than they did with Kate. Also why does she have so few twitter followers when even most D-List celebs have way more followers than she does. All of these things make it painfully obvious to even a casual observer that she is not that popular at all.
Kate is a twit said... 107
''Remona-I didn't order it from createspace, and I get that it's not available yet, also. I did speak to someone at createspace and they told me in can take 5-7 days for it to appear on amazon, because they have to set up the page info, add "Look inside the book" etc. He did tell me that sometimes the wait may be as few as 2 days.
You can set it up that Amazon emails you when it becomes available. Here is the link to the print book's page.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/150026377X''
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Thank you Kate is a twit. I did set it up so I can get an Amazon email. Then I went to createspace and ordered the paperback. I will probably order another when I get the Amazon emails so it can be counted in Robert's sales on Amazon!
At the time of CWS, Kendra had just over a million followers and WOS had around 150K. Now WOS has 200K or so and Kendra is at 2.49 Million. Who brought the ratings to the show? Sheeple, give your heads a shake.
PJ
I was reading some of the comments on the ROL article and here's how the sheeple think: She still has those 8 mouths to feed, they still all need to go to college.
No sheeple they don't need to go to college. In fact some of them may not even want to go to college. The money she made by putting gritted clothes into consignment was spent long ago on something Kate wanted for Kate. My guess is that there are some sort of college funds for the kids, however, I'd also bet that TFW has something in place stating that if a kid doesn't go the money reverts to her.
Lukebandit - I have to commend you for taking on CJwhomever in the ROL comments. It's like talking to a wall though. You'll never win and they'll never really listen. Good try though. Is CJ still working with BV? Per her comments on ROL (maybe twitter too) the super secret truth will come to light in a few months and apparently the scales will drop from everyone's eyes as they see the light.
I wonder if the likes of Nancy Grace and Barbara Walters feel foolish for down grading Jon Gosselin the way they did and putting Kate on a pedestal. So many of the rags are now back tracking all of their support for Kate and writing scathing articles about her.
If I were being talked about so horribly I would crawl in a hole and stay there. She brought this on all by herself. I always had to change the channel when she came on and said, "but it is r life". Her voice is very grating, but the attitude along with it was over the top.
Lots of people can't afford college. I'd venture to say most. That's why we have a vast student loan program available as well as many other forms of aid. They may have to use those resources. Boo hoo. What makes them different from or more special than any other kid who has to do that? They never say.
I guess Milo didn't take Barb Gilmer's advice, instead she found another fan to latch onto:
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 1h
@AmyTyler400 @Kateplusmy8 Well said Amy! This bk was designed 2hurt Kate...full of malicious gossip & outright lies! #ObsessedStalker
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 1h
@AmyTyler400 @Kateplusmy8 It never ends..this group idolizes RH & takes his word as gospel. So unfair 2Kate, but she has 2move on 4her kids.
But Milo, YOU idolize Kate and take her word as gospel. Is that any different?
And by the way, I don't "worship" Robert. I applaud him for exposing Kate for the abuser she is. Trashing Robert isn't going to change that.
Could someone with Twitter ask Kate to send her BFF Milo a copy of the copyrighted Mommy Journal please? In fact, have her send it to all of her fans. In the exact format she had it copyrighted. Hell, have her put it out as an ebook for $8.88 or $7.77 or free to her most ardent fans! Give it away as another 'do a good deed' prize!
Milo, face the fact honey. Kate dropped the lawsuit because she didn't have a defense. Hoffman's book is based on Kate's own Mommy Journal.
I know you all bought into Captain O's 'inside information' that she dropped it in exchange for Hoffman not releasing it again. That's not true. Captain O's 'inside information' is just as reliable as your 'inside information' Milo.
I haven't looked at ROL comments in ages but was curious after NJGal's comment here. CJ has three children, one allegedly on the autism spectrum, one young teen who's apparently having problems and she has hours to spend on Twitter and ROL? I don't get it. She thinks she's cute and so intelligent but she comes across as obsessed and very odd. I wonder if any of her buddies have tried to reign her in.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 1h
@AmyTyler400 @Kateplusmy8 Well said Amy! This bk was designed 2hurt Kate...full of malicious gossip & outright lies! #ObsessedStalker
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When will this person get it through their head that Mr. Hoffman's book is not about hurting Kate but about helping her children.
The assumption being that we are as concerned about destroying their idol as they are about defending her.
They can't fathom that people care more about the children than anything else.
Was CJ the one who said even if the journals were true, well, that
was a long time ago? Because no one gave Gladys that memo.
According to her, it's all malicious lies!
The other night she granted TFW her blessing to pretty much
beg, borrow and steal to take care of her babies. Doesn't Robert
Hoffman have a family to take care of, too? You may not agree
with his methods, but the guy sure put a lot of work into proving
his case. And in the end, all he may have to show for it is a little
less debt than the legal fees he was buried in when he started.
FYI from someone who knows...Robert gets more of the proceeds if you order directly from the CreateSpace web address than if you order directly from AMAZON. (I may or may not have a novel available on CreateSpace at the moment right now...) ;-) It's roughly a $3.00 difference in proceeds. I'd order from CreateSpace...just as simple.
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I'm not here enough to know if this isn't supposed to be discussed here ... but I just wanted a real legal opinion ... because I don't understand any of this ... but if you don't post it .. I completely understand.
Some of Kate's fans keep insinuating ... there is a lawsuit ... law enforcement is watching the khaters' twitter ... khater's are going to be in trouble ... khater's will go to jail ... blah blah blah.
As far as I can tell, being a non-legal person - The only BV lawsuit that involves any Kate foes is one accusing a couple of them of being in cahoots with people I've never heard of ... to besmirch BV's name and cause him a loss of revenue? I don't see any lawsuit regarding Twitter or the pro-Kate/anti-Kate battle.
Am I missing something? Is there a lawsuit I don't know about? Are they still expecting the promised class action lawsuit?
FlimsyFlamsy said... 120
''Was CJ the one who said even if the journals were true, well, that was a long time ago?''
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No, that was the two shoes person, and I notice she's been pretty quiet since the book was released the second time.
Some of Kate's fans keep insinuating ... there is a lawsuit ... law enforcement is watching the khaters' twitter ... khater's are going to be in trouble ... khater's will go to jail ... blah blah blah.
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Some of them have been ranting about this for years. Nothing has ever come of it. Some of them push it so far the tables get turned on them and people file on THEM. As others have pointed out this sort of delusional manic behavior suggests some mental illness going on. I think it's best to ignore it. These people can be found in lots of fandoms. I suspect the mentally ill often turn to the internet for validation and to be able to rant and rave without people walking away, sighing, or even calling the cops. It's a captive audience for their differently wired brains. Best to just ignore it. I don't think it's good for these types to engage with them, it encourages the manic behavior.
Ok, my posts are never approved to this country club insider's only blog, but I am posting this anyways...Robert should thank every single person who donated money to him through Paypal or any other service, including me, by email. That is the proper thing to do.
Otherwise, how do I even know that he received the donation from me or cared that I sent him something at all? People's minds wonder when they don't hear back with things like, "Was I not important enough?" "Did he think I did not send enough to warrant a reply?" "Well to heck with him, if he can't even say thank you, I will never support his cause again," People are people and they do get offended and they do expect something in return, as it is human nature, and something as small as thanks would suffice.
By ignoring some and not others, he probably lost a lot more money by not acknowledging his donors personally.
And Robert, I know you read here, it is rude to ignore your "fans" just like you say it is bad for her to ignore her "fans. When someone takes the time to help you, it is never too late to say thank you. You don't have to write a book, but a simple thank you is in order. Proper etiquette is still alive, barely, but it is still considered a must in most social circles.
j4a
j4a, I'm not sure which posts of yours didn't go through. I don't even recognize your name. But it's only a minority of posts that don't go through. Most of them are because they are anonymous. If you didn't sign your post it does not go through even if there's nothing wrong with it. Strict rule. We have a few resident trolls I always delete or people being really snippy, but that's only one or two posts a day. Next time email me with the post that didn't go through so I can see. I don't think we're a country club here, we're a porch! A porch open to anyone who is respectful, with complimentary lemonade and even a rumspringa after 11 a.m. No membership required. You can even suck at tennis and prefer to watch T.V.
I think your opinion is a fair one, if someone donated the recipient should say thank you. Hopefully once things are less busy he will do so.
On a completely different note, regardless how anyone feels about Robert, and you know I've had my concerns, I thought it was kind of unacceptable the Talk didn't mention his book title and author. If you're going to discuss someone's book, common courtesy is to name the author and the title of the book. If that were my book that would really bother me that I made it so far to a national TV show then didn't even get a mention. Every other book is treated with a plug. That was my only criticism of that discussion.
IDK....did TFW ever thank anyone individually for buying any of *her* book(s)? Did she thank people individually for donating to her cause when she asked for love donations?
What about xmas and birthday presents?
The most she could manage was a generic tweet saying thanks all, I haven't picked them up at the post office yet but whatever...
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Actually it was Kate's word as gospel.
I too don't idolize Robert. Quite frankly, I really don't like him or his tactics. I respect trying to expose something bad, but I don't have to like the messenger.
However, I have been given plenty enough reason to believe the journals are Kate's. From her copyrighting of them to Em Tanner confirming those indeed were the emails she saw. We haven't seen a single "mistake" in the journals or emails that doesn't match up with the timeline as we know it. They are impeccably credible. Not a single journal of Kate talking about something in PA when she was actually in NY. Not one mistake. I don't believe he is capable of faking all of this. You'd have to be a genius to do that. Carefully studying every nuance of someone's tone and writing, carefully studying every single move of theirs public and private over the last four years, and be gifted in imitation. Judging by the rest of his writing, I don't see it.
What sealed the deal even more for me was some odd phrasing that Kate used on twitter or maybe it was the show? A couple weeks ago. Forgot, but it was odd and unique phrasing that she used that was exactly the same phrasing in one of her journals. How could an expert predict she would use that turn of words AFTER publishing the "fake" journals? ''
Most of all, where's her lawsuit? While it's hard for a celeb to sue, it would be easy to sue over a fake journal. Easy as pie. There's no lawsuit because she can't sue over something that is real and a matter of public concern and her lawyer knows it.
It's possible he just is getting a lot of emails and donations right now as well as press inquiries and is behind. I would give him the benefit of the doubt.
I was getting some traction on a certain photography site at one point, and I had a photo picked up by a popular app as "photo of the day" that got a ton of likes and comments from their regulars. Of course I was very happy others enjoyed it, and I always try to say thank you to every single person who comments and what's more I try to look at THEIR photos and comment and like the ones I enjoy. You can do that with 50 likes. You can't do that with 25,050 likes.
With that photo it got to be impossible. I couldn't keep up with it. I finally had to just accept I didn't have the time or energy to go through every single person and just hoped that they understood and knew I appreciated it. I couldn't even read all the comments. I felt both humbled and a bit frustrated that people might think I didn't care.
In any case I can't assume because someone doesn't thank you they are not grateful. They might just be a bit overwhelmed or behind or there's just too much to do.
He may be facing the same sort of thing. His book IS selling at the moment, it's at its peak. This can be a busy time. Yes, he should thank you, and hopefully he will, even if it's many months from now.
please consider purchasing it and donating it to your local library
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Well, most libraries would not consider adding it to their collections, because it is self-published, even if donated. (There are a few Createspace books that they might add occasionally, items such as craft books.
In addition, most collection policies are based on what will circulate frequently, and there is not much interest in her anymore *broadly* speaking. So many might consider that factor. The majority of libraries with up-to-date weeding policies would have already discarded the previous books by her and there aren't many that ordered the cookbook.
That being said, some libraries might be interested and it never hurts to ask! They always appreciate someone offering. Don't want to burst anyone's bubble, sorry, just want to indicate that you might not get the response expected. If it happens at some point to be covered by title in "legitmate" press or bigger tv shows, however, then yes, they will be interested. (The Talk would be overlooked, as they didn't mention it by name or focus the discussion on the book or author but rather an event.)
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 128
''I too don't idolize Robert. Quite frankly, I really don't like him or his tactics. I respect trying to expose something bad, but I don't have to like the messenger.''
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I don't ''idolize'' Robert either. However I really DO have a huge amount of respect for him, and I like him as much as you can like someone you've never met.
Once again Admin, I totally disagree with you about Robert AND his ''tactics''. I don't care one tiny bit if his ''tactics'' annoyed anyone.
For ME, the most important thing is that Robert had feelings for Jon's children and did whatever he needed to in order to see that WOS was exposed. GO ROBERT, GO!! !!!!!!
But Milo, YOU idolize Kate and take her word as gospel. Is that any different?
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Exactly.
Milo is accuse the no-fans of what he or she is doing and it is to blind or stupid to see this.
Thanks Admin!
Otherwise, how do I even know that he received the donation from me or cared that I sent him something at all?
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If you sent it through PayPal, your PP account will show that it was sent and received by the person to whom you directed the payment. If, for some reason, it was unclaimed or unable to go through to the address given, it will be put back into your account.
" I don't think we're a country club here, we're a porch! A porch open to anyone who is respectful, with complimentary lemonade and even a rumspringa after 11 a.m. No membership required."
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Is a good Bloody Mary acceptable before 11 a.m.?
There's no gated community here...just Joy's front porch and an occasional walk in the sand along the water's edge. All is good.
In CJ's case - I think the woman has some mental issues, so for her, rational thought is apparently not an option.
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*Some* issues? I'm amazed that she isn't receiving treatment in a facility somewhere. My gosh, that person is so out of touch with reality that I'd be scared to death of be a neighbor, or anyone who comes into contact with her.
"Cold water for burns, for much longer than is comfortable (10 minutes is good). Run over, or better still immerse. The coldest water you can get out of your tap. Renew it if the water gets warm.
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Awhile back, I was checking on the internet for burn remedies, and several of them say not to use cold water, but rather cool water. Mayo Clinic and Web MD both say cool water, not cold, and definitely not ice. Cold makes more sense, but I would think that they should know.
I finally figured out where I saw TFW's Cowardly Lion look...I caught an episode of Don't Be Tardy and the wig that Kim Zolciak wears is the exact hairdo that TFW was sporting. The difference being Kim Z freely admits that she wears a wig. She's one of the RHO Atlanta (I think) and her husband is some football player. I probably won't watch the show again because it wasn't very good. I did see a commercial for a new show on Bravo "Extreme Guide To Parenting". Maybe if TFW contacts Andy he'll get her a guest spot on the show.
Oh, my word. That crazy Steph PR person is back. I looked at her profile. She's currently on some kind of rant about homophobia. I guess Michael Jackson is on the back burner.
Why does Kate attract these people?
Like library lady said, Robert's book, even if donated, would probably not make it into the general circulating collection. TFW is simply not a subject of interest for inclusion in a public library collection. Too many books, and too little shelf space. This is also self-published and vanity press is also not usually included. It would have to get reviews from well regarded boom review sources. It's not personal, just how it works.
Funny, People sure has moved on - the negative shitstorm flying around KG is not of interest to them. Baby Prince George has the cover and former KG fan Kate Coyne is writing about Jillian Michaels this week. TLC has a double page spread ad with their coming season stahs, from the wedding dress folks, to Duggars sans kids and the little couple family. They don't seem to have an empty space there for that former famous family. Moving on. Get a clue Kate.
Yes, Robert should say thank you for donations. However, let's not forget that he published a book, took a lie detector test, was sued, hired a lawyer, filed a response (at least I think he and his lawyer did), re-edited and republished the book, all while suffering some serious medical issues.
The stress alone must have been crippling, but he hung in there. Robert, I never doubted you. Those 8 kids are going to thank you some day. I hope you're well and I hope the book keeps on selling and selling and gets you out of the financial hole you found yourself it.
Bravo.
PJ
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 2h
Spent another day in car...picked up aftr sleepover, dropped off at lax, took Jamie 2 airport...Home now missing my BFF #K8sDailyTaxiService
Kate misses Gladys? Don't worry, Kate...she'll be there as fast as you can say "grow a boyfriend."
PA Dutch Mom said... 135
Awhile back, I was checking on the internet for burn remedies, and several of them say not to use cold water, but rather cool water. Mayo Clinic and Web MD both say cool water, not cold, and definitely not ice. Cold makes more sense, but I would think that they should know.
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I stand corrected. My information was about 35 years old. One good thing about cool as opposed to cold water is that it is more comfortable, and you're likely to keep it up longer. They don't really define what temperature constitutes cool/cold. In fact, one website I saw used the two words interchangeably! But they do say 20 minutes. In some cases, you can't really control the temperature exactly. Any cool/cold (but not ice cold) water is MUCH better than no treatment. Even lukewarm (but not hot) water is better than no treatment.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 1h
@Kateplusmy8 Still doing Lacrosse? I thought tournament marked end of season? How does that game run...we don't play it here..what months?
It's none of your business, Milo. Remember...NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS! No questions. If Kate wants to tell you, she will. Otherwise, stop being so darn nosy.
Milo is such a hoot. Annoying, but a hoot nonetheless.
Why would anyone expect a personal thank you from the author for buying their book? Sounds like a very unreasonable expectation to me.
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Spent another day in car...picked up aftr sleepover, dropped off at lax, took Jamie 2 airport...Home now missing my BFF #K8sDailyTaxiService
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Aw. #K8sDailyTaxiService. Shmoops is trying real hard to sound mediocre. Poor thing. I wonder which of her three pricey vehicles she uses when she pretends to be a taxi driver.
@MiloandJack: Here's a parenting tip I think @Kateplusmy8 has been doing 4years! > pic.twitter.com/h39OBiGY0b #AwesomeWayToHelpOurKids
And just what has she taught them to do for themselves Milo? On the update special she seemed amazed that they were just now pouring their own cereal and juice. Earth to Milo, they're 10 for God's sake and should have been doing this years ago. Has she taught them to respect each other and h? Apparently not based on their behavior and back talking her as shown on the special.
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@Kateplusmy8: Spent another day in car...picked up aftr sleepover, dropped off at lax, took Jamie 2 airport...Home now missing my BFF #K8sDailyTaxiService
Well we called it here and she's right on time farting rainbows. The dead tree version of RH's book is now available and TFW is tweeting about her busy day playing taxi. She's so super special for doing this because, you know, none do us ever taxied our kids (and their friends) around nor have we ever taken anyone to the airport. Oh wait, yes we have we just don't expect kudos for doing normal hum drum activities. I'm currently watching Criminal Minds and during the investigation Emily Prentiss said " Saying you're happy isn't the same as being happy." Kate - saying you're a good mom isn't the same as being a good mom.
I never doubted Robert for a minute either. As far as a thank you for my Pay Pal donation, I got one. The generic thank you he offered up on the page it was plenty enough for me. I know he appreciates it. I appreciate what he's done even more.
Now I hope he's spending more real time with his children. And his wife
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 1h
@Kateplusmy8 Still doing Lacrosse? I thought tournament marked end of season? How does that game run...we don't play it here..what months?
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Is Milo calling TFW a liar?
Lalalalala said... 143
''Why would anyone expect a personal thank you from the author for buying their book? Sounds like a very unreasonable expectation to me.''
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That is a very good point Lalalalala. I ordered around 15 books from Amazon for my great-grandchildren the last couple of months and it never entered my mind that any of the authors should send me a personal thank you...not even Ree Drummond, and I ordered FOUR of her books for children!
The issue isn't about expecting a thank you for purchasing a book. Robert asked for financial donations above and beyond book purchases and I, as well as others, gladly obliged. I simply thought a thank you, even an automated one, might be nice.
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Yes, Robert should say thank you for donations. However, let's not forget that he published a book, took a lie detector test, was sued, hired a lawyer, filed a response (at least I think he and his lawyer did), re-edited and republished the book, all while suffering some serious medical issues.
The stress alone must have been crippling, but he hung in there. Robert, I never doubted you. Those 8 kids are going to thank you some day. I hope you're well and I hope the book keeps on selling and selling and gets you out of the financial hole you found yourself it.
Bravo.
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Very well said. I agree.
I am thankful that Robert never once gave up and was able to finally get his book back out for sale.
I do not worship him. But I am grateful that he saw the need to start his research on the LYING LIAR WHO LIES and recognized that she was exploiting and harming the Gkids. And that he saw so early on that Kate was a FAKE and a GRIFTER hiding her wealth while begging for handouts and freebies.
For me, Robert's book was what I would have liked to write if I had the time and opportunity. I am very grateful that he spent so many years methodically accumulating all the evidence to reveal the REAL KATE behind the curtain. And that he had the foresight to do it in a way that his facts and documents held up under a lawsuit !!! Way to go Robert, you NEVER gave up!
Thank you Robert for having the courage to keep going even during illness and financial hardship. I am so happy that your book is selling so well and being talked about by so many. So a BIG Congratulations to Robert on the success of his book!
(from a fan who now owns 2 of your ebooks with a print copy just ordered tonight)
Aw poor Shmoopy, such a tiring day of shlepping. She made what, 2-3 trips, which means at least 1 or 2 kids, probably the twins, got to do something. And the airport, OMG, how does she do it? This is what moms do, and if she even let the other kids have a life, she would be making more trips than that. And most moms are working through the summer as well. Poor Shmoops. I guess the only plus in this scenario is that the twins are not spending all their time at home this summer. Sorry, I forgot about the 5 whole sessions at VBS.
Jen said... 149
''The issue isn't about expecting a thank you for purchasing a book. Robert asked for financial donations above and beyond book purchases and I, as well as others, gladly obliged. I simply thought a thank you, even an automated one, might be nice.''
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OK Jen, I stand corrected. The thing is, I also donated to Robert and didn't expect a thank you, automated or not. I actually did ''gladly'' oblige. I suppose we will have to agree to disagree about what ''gladly obliged'' means. Having said that, I'm moving on.
I agree with you Jen. It makes us look like sheep when we can't admit Hoffman (of Jon) are immune to making mistakes.
As someone said here earlier, "Kate could rob a store and the sheep would STILL praise her".
Nothing wrong with good manners, in my book. However, I'm a bit more choosy as to who gets my hard earned money....
@Kateplusmy8: Spent another day in car...picked up aftr sleepover, dropped off at lax, took Jamie 2 airport...Home now missing my BFF #K8sDailyTaxiService
She has three, count 'em, three cars. Someone on Twitter should ask her in which car she spent the entire day. How does one decide which car to take? Such a decision...
Aw. #K8sDailyTaxiService. Shmoops is trying real hard to sound mediocre. Poor thing. I wonder which of her three pricey vehicles she uses when she pretends to be a taxi driver.
Sorry, Auntie. I read from the bottom up. That way I can say, "Bottoms up!"
We were thinking along the same line regarding the cars.
Little edie, I also am choosy about who gets my money, so that is why I have bought Robert's 2 e-books, and will also be buying the paper versions, that is so little to give to him, while he has given so much to those 8 children, who could not speak on their own. Thank-you Mr. Hoffman.
Jen said... 149
The issue isn't about expecting a thank you for purchasing a book. Robert asked for financial donations above and beyond book purchases and I, as well as others, gladly obliged. I simply thought a thank you, even an automated one, might be nice.
July 18, 2014 at 8:11 PM
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Sure, it would be nice. I've donated to many causes over the years, many times via an online Paypal link or otherwise. The usual thank you is the generic one you get as you click "donate." I understand the sentiment but it does seem a little nit picky.
And in a way, choosing to donate a little to defray his expenses can also be seen as a thank you from the giver to Robert for all his efforts in getting the truth out there.
Sorry, Auntie. I read from the bottom up. That way I can say, "Bottoms up!"
We were thinking along the same line regarding the cars.
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Ha! that's okay Sleepless. Kate must shower with Windex because we (here) can so clearly see right through her.
PA Dutch Mom said:
*Some* issues? I'm amazed that she isn't receiving treatment in a facility somewhere. My gosh, that person is so out of touch with reality that I'd be scared to death of be a neighbor, or anyone who comes into contact with her.
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I do feel sorry for her neighbors or anyone else that has to deal with her on a regular basis. Crazy is scary. Her husband appears unable to stand up to her either - maybe he's another version of Jon, a long-suffering husband who just puts his head down and slogs on day after day with a miserable marriage.
OrangeCrusher 1 said... 151
Aw poor Shmoopy, such a tiring day of shlepping. She made what, 2-3 trips, which means at least 1 or 2 kids, probably the twins, got to do something. And the airport, OMG, how does she do it? This is what moms do, and if she even let the other kids have a life, she would be making more trips than that. And most moms are working through the summer as well. Poor Shmoops. I guess the only plus in this scenario is that the twins are not spending all their time at home this summer. Sorry, I forgot about the 5 whole sessions at VBS.
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So true. I think Kate really does think when she actually does a normal mom duty like attending a sporting event or driving that she deserves a medal and applause.
For the last 10 years, she did NOTHING. The volunteers, TLC, Nannies, and JON did it ALL !!! So when she finally is doing something a normal mom does multiple times a day EVERY day Year after year, Kate is so proud of herself.
She has no self awareness of how lazy she sounds nor does she have any clue what most moms do in any one day all the while working jobs.
It is quite sad that Kate thinks performing one simple task like picking up or dropping off a child at a sport or a sleepover is some great feat of effort. If that was all I had to do today, I would be relaxed and stress free. And like most of us posting here (unlike Kate), we also work long hours, 5 or more days a week, at a JOB while still doing the small tasks that Kate tweets about with such exhaustion and self praising. And we do it with love and joy - never expecting praise or applause either from friends or family and definitely not strangers on twitter.
Admin said:
. I suspect the mentally ill often turn to the internet for validation and to be able to rant and rave without people walking away, sighing, or even calling the cops. It's a captive audience for their differently wired brains
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Years ago, when my son was just a toddler, there was a local radio show on our local station, hosted by a really funny intelligent woman. She would cover all kinds of topics, from politics, to local news, to agriculture, to whatever she thought was an interesting topic. During a certain time on her show, people could call in to discuss that day's topic. And almost always, there was a guy named "Gearhart from Oakland" who she was unfailingly polite to, but he would always end up going into a rant and being cut off.
Like you said, this opportunity to talk to someone and briefly be heard, was irresistible to him, but he could not refrain from blowing the moment every time by getting abusive, argumentative or crude. I would always just turn down the volume for a minute when he came on.
The internet gives a lot of people a place to be heard, at least until people get tired of them and drift off. Then they just move on to a new blog, bulletin board or elsewhere and start all over again.
He should thank those who have helped him along the way. However, I don't think it's worth getting as upset as the other poster is about it. You can't expect thank you's anymore when you give, across the board. It's sad. Don't give if you require that.
Thank you for who recommended The Woman Who Wasn't There. About 19 minutes in they showed a montage of newspaper articles about the man this evil Catfish was pretending was her husband. Wouldn't you know it, I saw one of my dearest friends' article featured, his name right there. He is still a journalist at a highly respected and well known organization. Proud of him.
During a certain time on her show, people could call in to discuss that day's topic. And almost always, there was a guy named "Gearhart from Oakland" who she was unfailingly polite to, but he would always end up going into a rant and being cut off.
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Oh my gosh. The John and Ken radio show in LA has a person like this too!! They too have a call in I think on Fridays but it's more of a gag. They will play some of the funniest rants Friday afternoons. People get weirdly worked up about the funniest things.
Tonight they did a montage of just this guy's calls and the producer deleting them all after the first sentence so he won't fill up the mailbox. He rants about all kinds of crazy things, from Sarah Palin to some boating accident and always has some crazy conspiracy theory. Except after every first sentence you hear "beeeep!" as the producer deletes it. LOL it was great.
I've come to realize people like this are not exactly rare and a few of them can be found among the sheeple. Smile, nod and/or ignore.
She needs to get a best friend who actually lives in her state.
Rich person and poor person donate the same item, rich person and poor person get the same write off.
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I think we agree about this. But the end result is that a rich person like Kate may end up getting 30 bucks of every hundred she donates where someone making much less might only see 10 or as pointed out for those who don't itemize, none. I didn't mean the actual value of the item is different if you are rich. You're just explaining it a different and probably better way. No reason to get upset. Just PICK A NAME for gosh sakes, explain it your way in a polite manner, and move on.
Millicent another thing I've learned as I'm sure you've experienced is that many clients just want to be heard. That they often have no one else in their life who will listen to their story. You may be the last and only person who will listen anymore. They don't necessarily even want advice or for you to do anything but to let them get their story out. Even if it's one that just seems like a rant to a normal person.
I try to be patient with people like this because most likely everyone else in their life doesn't want to listen anymore.
Oh, geez, how exciting. An infidelity episode: The dumbing down of society.
"Kendra Wilkinson and Hank Baskett Cheating Drama Will Air on Reality Show"
Did it Sleepless in Seattle. I saw that she had taken Jamie to the airport today. I tweeted to her:
Jamie has been there since circus cluster? Guess u took her back N the 2 seater, right? J Saying. Did Zorro..suddenly appear?
Bwahahahahaha
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 164
She needs to get a best friend who actually lives in her state.
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Should I volunteer? I can walk around on her counter tops and clean her oven hood.
Congrats, Admin to your dear friend's articles. If it is on Netflix, I will look it up. I want to see Heaven is for Real and I think it is on Netflix this coming Thursday.
My grandson came for a visit tonight. It is getting better. He still won't let me hold him, but he was on the bed and we played peekaboo and tossed a couple of stuffed animals and would play catch. He loves a deck of cards! Excited, my ds fixed my Skype. Now we can Skype!
Yeah, Baby!
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 1h
@Kateplusmy8 Still doing Lacrosse? I thought tournament marked end of season? How does that game run...we don't play it here..what months?
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Kate's private life and that of her children's is none of your business.
Or wait, is it your business but not our business? Whose business is it and whose is it not? So confused Milo, help.
Ha! that's okay Sleepless. Kate must shower with Windex because we (here) can so clearly see right through her.
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Maybe we should call her Mrs. Cellophane. Remember Mr. Cellophane in "Chicago?" You can see right through him.
If anyone still thinks catfish is no big deal, they just tell a few lies it's not devastating or destructive, watch The Woman Who Wasn't There.
The emotional toll this catfish had on everyone who believed her was overwhelming and destructive. These people's hearts were broken when they found out they had been duped. Some of them could barely handle it. One of her old friends said she feels nothing but hatred toward her and resents having the hope the catfish gave her ripped away.
Catfishing people is serious emotional business that should not be brushed off as nothing.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 1h
@Kateplusmy8 Still doing Lacrosse? I thought tournament marked end of season? How does that game run...we don't play it here..what months?
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Here we go. Gladys took Barb's advice...no more book discussion. We're moving on to the regular activities of a day in the life of the overworked mommie of eight. Let's get back to the lovefest. "Hoffie's" book is fizzlin' anyway.
Kate and her cars...
Did she ever say what she bought after her little sports car allegedly died and she got a ride from Mr. Tow Truck Man? I don't think she bought another small car. Isn't it a sedan?
Jamie has been there since circus cluster? Guess u took her back N the 2 seater, right? J Saying. Did Zorro..suddenly appear?
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LOL! Except that she didn't have a little two-seater. I remember the model. It was a sports car, but it actually had two seats in the back, both equipped with seatbelts. I think she bought a larger car when she replaced that one, but I'm not sure exactly what she has now. She has the Benz and the Toyota, but what is the other one?
I wonder if the boys ever get dropped off at friend's houses or to
any outside activities? Or is #K8sDailyTaxiService only available
to girls? I just can't picture TFW making the effort to coordinate
something special just for them - unless there was something in
it for her.
Hmm, is Milo now stealing quotes from other fans and pretending they're her own. One fan tweeted this to Kate:
Holly @Hollybm78 · 4h
“@Quotelmages: Common parenting misconception pic.twitter.com/JTneFIHCgC”@Kateplusmy8
It contains the quote from Ann Landers. It was tweeted at 6:17pm PDT.
About 40 minutes later, Milo tweets the same thing to Kate.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 3h
Here's a parenting tip I think @Kateplusmy8 has been doing 4years! > pic.twitter.com/h39OBiGY0b #AwesomeWayToHelpOurKids
Gee Milo, you could have at least given credit to Holly and to Quote Images where it original came from and not pretend that you found it all by yourself. You're becoming more and more just like Kate.
Danka Shhoen!!
The Book has sold another one in Germany. Now 2. lol
GO GO ROBERT!
I google translated Go Robert Go and this is what it came up with! Germany is probably still tipsy from the World Cup!
Over In TFW's County said... 172
Sleepless in Seattle
Showering with 4 squirts of Windex and ONE paper towel.
How does Steve stand it? hahaha
Also, do you think Jamie stayed in the garage apt., which she should have or did she and kate sleep in the same bed. Remember, kate said at OBX to the girls who were fussing over the sleeping arrangements that she and Jamie slept together when they traveled, or at the house. No big deal. I'm not saying anything was going on, but Jamie and kate shouldn't buddy up in the same bed with the kids there. Is she that clingy and needy?
It would highly embarrass them.
If I was 13 years old in that situation there, I would be highly upset and Rebel like hello.
I will not buy thos long awaited DTB..I cannot, in good conscience burden anyone with it, not even my library, but that is just me.
I can however donate 20$ I would have spent on it to Roberts Paypal, legal fund gladly, no thanks needed, just thank you for coming through Robert!
franky
NJgal...113
The scales will drop from everyones eyes???
What are we, Lizards? SERIOUSLY???
Sheeple, speak for yourselves, we do not have bi-focucused eyes...
But, If you want to talk chameloens, let me tell you what I found on my pillow first day in Cuba!
I named it Kate
franky
Just PICK A NAME for gosh sakes, explain it your way in a polite manner, and move on.
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Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 165
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Admin, just curious. When you said this, did you mean for the person to move on from the subject or for them to move on from this site? I've been here long enough to pretty much know what you mean but it can leave a question in a new persons mind.
njay, I don't think Admin meant to leave at all. Just pick a name, explain in a politely manner and move on. Like move on to a different subject.
Hmmm. What's the deal with Jaime staying so long? Kate must have had a ton of work for her to do, LOL. Or maybe she needed a drinking buddy.
Did anyone notice if Jamie's kids were at the carnival birthday party? Wonder if her ex still has physical custody.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 115
Lots of people can't afford college. I'd venture to say most. That's why we have a vast student loan program available as well as many other forms of aid. They may have to use those resources. Boo hoo. What makes them different from or more special than any other kid who has to do that? They never say.
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I completely agree. I doubt all 8 will want college, but even if they do, as many students/parents with many kids do manage to complete Financial Aid forms for grants, scholarships, loans etc...
My mom was widowed at 40 with 6 kids and somehow, all kids managed to get through college. We all worked and had part time jobs to get us through our college years and had student loans to pay off our expenses.. Paid back student loans, were lucky enough to get scholarships, grants and loans, so it can be done without all of the fuss Kate makes over college. Neither she or Jon attended a 4 year college, but years later, 10 to be exact, she still thinks "people" need to fund these kids for college.
Seriously, this is 5 and 8 years from now, but she should be planning and stop the whining. It is a slap in the face to all who save, struggle, work hard, etc... as I grew up in a small town with many families having 4-13 kids, and not a single one of the parents complained - ever. They found a way.
Why does Kate make this everyone's business? Start figuring it out already Kate, if that is want your kids to do, although some of them may want college and choose other careers that don't include college. One excuse after the other.
Forgot to note that most of my siblings used money they earned from JOBS (yes we had jobs) to pay expenses throughout our college years. No shame, anger or remorse, that is how many college kids survive and they do it, as they have a purpose in life.
And you appreciate that you were able to attend college, and were able to contribute to your education when you work for it.. Really 101 stuff. So TFW's claims are more of the same that she HAS to fund college. More excuses, as she has no idea how college funding works.
franky @182 - It's a biblical reference and an attempt at humor. I thought it was witty.
As far as college goes, Becki Dilley (I think TFW knows who she is) works as a FT nurse while managing 6 kids in college. I wonder how she's managed all these years without a TV show. Dd I mention she's a nurse? I guess it can be done, even when you have multiples.
There is an extra tup room- maybe it is a guest room now or maybe a study? It seems to me the upstairs is small for what it looks on the outside. Hannah was given the private room for her migraines, but then moved back in with her sisters. Their room is small (seen with bunks and a single,one dresser) on CWS so I would think maybe they use the old bedroom for storage/study. Jamie should either bunk there or in the garage. She was seen rolling her suitcase into the main house. It's not a matter of necessity here- they could talk (drink) all night then should retire their separate rooms IMO. Jamie's kids were 'away' so they weren't at the party- I don't think there's much love lost among all the kids after the RV adventure.
My mom was widowed at 40 with 6 kids and somehow, all kids managed to get through college. We all worked and had part time jobs to get us through our college years and had student loans to pay off our expenses.. Paid back student loans, were lucky enough to get scholarships, grants and loans, so it can be done without all of the fuss Kate makes over college. Neither she or Jon attended a 4 year college, but years later, 10 to be exact, she still thinks "people" need to fund these kids for college.
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You should be proud of your family. It's the American way. You figure things out.
I don't think she understands that it just sounds so gosh darn entitled. Why in the world is she special enough to expect that college should be covered for her children and what's more, why is it anyone else's problem but her family's? Get some class. This is a family matter and it's unacceptable and uncouth to constantly whine about it and use it to justify why you need to expose your kids. I doubt she cares two sh&ts if these kids go to college. It's just a convenient excuse to exploit them.
What's more, the children will be 18. Frankly, she is under no obligation to help them with college. It is an optional expense for parents who can afford it, not a mandatory expense you must provide your children like food or shelter. Many parents even those who can afford it chose not to provide college on a "golden" platter to their children. For many young adults, it is better for them to be responsible for the expense. It helps them appreciate it and learn to budget and prevents super and super-super seniors. Unless our government sees fit to make it available to everyone for free, college is not a right. It's an optional expense that she is under no obligation to pay.
Sure it would be nice if she figured this out for him given all the work, but she acts like they won't have a roof over their heads unless she figures out college. One, not our problem. Two, you are talking about a privilege not a right, which is REALLY not our problem.
I understand why Hoffman perservered in order to get his book out there. I think he actually would have preferred to have Kate attempt to sue him a second time, because that would have proven without a shadow that she has been abusing her children and the people around her for years. The thing is I am not certain that even if he is completely selfless and did this to help the Gosselin children it will benefit them in any way and quite possibly may do more harm than good. It has shone a light on Kate, but are the proper authorities going to step in now?
Forgot to note that most of my siblings used money they earned from JOBS (yes we had jobs) to pay expenses throughout our college years. No shame, anger or remorse, that is how many college kids survive and they do it, as they have a purpose in life.
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I started college about when the time college tuition was hitting record highs.
Very few people's parents could afford it. No one was able to budget for such an expense.
And yes my friends and I did work. We worked in the library, waitressing, at the campus gym, did work for professors with research projects. I worked in the cafeteria. I washed dirty nasty trays. I mopped floors. I cleaned off tables. I didn't like it. But welcome to the real world. If you want something, you have to work. Everybody I knew worked. No one was asking you to put in a 40 hour work week. But 12 hours, yes. It was good for us. I'm GLAD I worked. I'm glad I worked at a job like that for low wages. It's a taste of what the real world is like without a degree, and motivation to stay in school.
The house is over 7,000 square feet. You can't tell there is ANY reason for two adult women to share a bed unless they want to. As far as I've seen in photos, Jamie is a Kate wannabe and a fame whore. Beyond that, it's speculation (not that there's anything wrong with that!). The dressing alike is bizarre if you ask me. Maybe both don't have all their marbles.
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“@Quotelmages: Common parenting misconception pic.twitter.com/JTneFIHCgC”@Kateplusmy8
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Are they saying they disagree with Ann Landers? I'm confused by the "common parenting misconception" remark.
In any case Ann Landers is saying it's more important what you teach your kids to do for themselves. That's flipping ironic since Kate has such militant control over these kids right down to each squirt of Windex that they can never learn to make their own way. I can see these kids when they turn 18, grabbing that bottle of Windex and squirting the whole thing until it's empty.
Maybe TFW should look into college funding and which are interested before she spouts off "she has to fund college for 8 kids." And start investing in college funds as many parents do in advance.
At 10 and even 13, some of these kids may not even want to go to college, but has to keep the gravy train rolling, when she clearly has no idea of funding. More of her "poor me" crap. She clearly has no clue, but is still trying to get people to feel sorry for her and provide "assistance" to her, when she is clearly better off than many families. Her greed and entitlement never ends. Always about getting more money as she has it so bad. LOL
Thank you Kirkland!!
I think that had so many parallels to Kate and the question people ask how has she skated by from criticism so easily. How did Tania skate by for so long? Even one of her friends realized he couldn't find any record of her on google but he STILL didn't say anything. The only reason she was caught was because the NY Times was just doing standard basic fact checking and suddenly realized things weren't adding up. No one set out to "out" her. Her former friends said the reason was no one wanted to question a poor 9-11 survivor who had been through so much, whose story was so horrific. It felt wrong to question it.
I think that's what Kate has run into so much and taken advantage of. No one wants to question a poor put upon mother of eight children just trying to get by. It feels wrong. They're worried people will think they are being mean and cruel to question it. To some people anyway. Not to me anymore.
I also really enjoyed Dear Zachary however it is an emotional ride so be prepared.
Just took a look at the Amazon page for the paperback edition of the book. It's still not available, but it's interesting that Amazon posted all the original reviews from the first release on the page.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/150026377X
About parents showing kids how to handle things themselves -
it's kind of funny the way TFW picks and chooses which issues
to micromanage. She's got the Windex/Towel ratio down to a
science. But when her toddlers were slugging each other, she
was happy to let them resolve it on their own. She drilled them
about what order to eat their lunches in. And yet they were
mature enough while still in diapers to decide in a family vote
(snicker) whether or not to continue filming every year. So many
mixed messages, which will ultimately lead to bigger issues.
That's right she's all over the place.
When someone hurls a very minor insult at the golden child she's all over that kid. But if the golden child goes around slugging and slapping that very same child and others, just let them work it out.
She once said if the kids wanted a car they'd have to get a job and work for it. But college needs to be paid for? Why shouldn't they get a job and work for college?
Don't get me wrong I think she SHOULD have adequately saved for college but the inconsistencies are real head scratchers. Is she a mother who wants them to make their own way or does she want to provide everything for them? It's perplexing.
By the way, Jon said very clearly at least twice that they have substantial college funds and will be well taken care of. But she can't let that get out because then there's no reason to keep filming.
NJGal51 said... 113
I was reading some of the comments on the ROL article and here's how the sheeple think: She still has those 8 mouths to feed, they still all need to go to college.
No sheeple they don't need to go to college. In fact some of them may not even want to go to college. The money she made by putting gritted clothes into consignment was spent long ago on something Kate wanted for Kate. My guess is that there are some sort of college funds for the kids, however, I'd also bet that TFW has something in place stating that if a kid doesn't go the money reverts to her.
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It's getting to the point where the sheeple are no longer able to make ANY of their tired, lame excuses for Kate. Everything they say has a fact based, proven rebuttal which cannot be excused or explained away. In this case, it is well documented that in the show heyday not a dime was saved for the kids from their earnings. This fact was found to be so egregious, that PA had to draft and pass a law. The state of PA is not a jellus hater who stalks Kate. The law was passed so no other children from that state would be made to work and have their privacy violated to this degree, only for their greedy parent to spend all the money on themselves. Kate's words may have said one thing, but her actions which were uncovered by state agencies, tells another story. Kate considers that money hers and hers alone. And according to her it was "hard earned" by her. Yes, I did feel for how hard it is to make sure that the Essex House cooked the Kobe beef tips to medium/medium well. It's also hard to clearly express how the wheat bread must have "no obvious grain" in it. It bet she broke a nail. I also cried when I saw how hard it was for her to be paid for going to Australia. The agony she went through while TLC renovated her kitchen and converted her pool to salt water (w/ new $4,000 slide) was horrible to watch. Given those traumas, I completely understand why Kate had to be extremely difficult with TLC and show them who's the real boss, even though she ended up getting fired.
The kids have been working since they were toddlers and pre-schoolers, but she told Ellen they were going to have to get jobs and buy their own cars. I suspect they were/are also going to be told to get loans for college, too.
At this point, Kate is undefendable. I don't know why they don't give up. Pride? Refusal to admit they were wrong? They just love to argue? I don't get it. Kate may have pulled off 'fooling the world' but the world now has her number.
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By the way, Jon said very clearly at least twice that they have substantial college funds and will be well taken care of. But she can't let that get out because then there's no reason to keep filming.
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I just posted about Kate's car comment as well, before I saw your post. I recall Jon having to fight Kate in court over establishing untouchable (by anyone but the kids when they are of age) trust funds for the kids. Like, she fought tooth and nail against this. Where did we hear this from?
I think after 10 years, TFW is all over the place, and does not have a clue about college funding (she should have/be investing in college funds with interest. as many do.
Rather, she projects more money needed, without looking in to college funding and what she could do now. Never mind financial aid already noted. She is looking for a long term gravy train, to finance her kids, when she should be clearly doing this herself.
Poor me, I have 8 kids to fund college for( when these kids can not even decide now if college is the right choice for them. Keep the gravy train afloat.
Since the tups were born, she barely held a job, but rather counted on TLC to keep her afloat. In the past three years, seems she has learned NOTHING about how a parent supports 8 kids since this was her choice.
Perhaps she can meet with a financial adviser to discuss her kids' college funds to figure out payment, rather than always projecting she needs money. She is far better off than most, could clearly look for a job, but would rather grift money under the "poor me" entitlement. The tups are 10; figure it out like everyone else does. You are NOT special. And you kids are not special either. Get over yourself!!
FlimsyFlamsy said... 199
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I agree : ) Her hypocrisy is alarming! And ALWAYS self-serving. All about Kate. She has learned nada in 10 years- disturbing.
Okay- sarcasm- but SHE HAS LEARNED NOTHING IN 10 COUNT 'EM 10 YEARS!
Disturbing at best.
According to Novelrank, Robert's book is now ranked in sales 251 for Amazon books. Huge jump. He will soon be in the top 100!
Is Kate really working towards college funds and good life for the kids or for her own "retirement" once the kids move out? I have to wonder what she is going to do for income otherwise when they are gone. Who is going to hire a "nurse" who hasn't done any nursing for 18 or so yrs. She has no skills for television work that will keep her going the rest of her life. Who would even want her as a sales clerk or grocery bagger or anything.
She will be holding onto her money with a tight fist when those kids are gone because "she worked for it (not the kids because they just walked in and out of camera)" .
Regarding the kids' college funds, both Jon and Kate have said in the past that there were substantial funds for all of the kids to go to college. I also recall seeing the papers printed by ROL (supplied by Hailey) that showed information about the kids' trust fund. This was in, I think, 2010, and the balance of the trust was $900,000. Who knows how high the balance was after their K+8 money. and years of interest. Plenty of money for the kids to go to college, plus they have TAP accounts. But…the trust is a revocable trust. That means Kate can take money out for the mortgage, utilities, tuitions, food, clothes, etc. Does anyone believe that she could resist helping herself to that money? Of course not. So it's entirely possible--even probable--that, even though there was enough money to put them through college at one time, there is no longer enough. The sad part is, they already worked to put themselves through college, and they will probably have to do it again.
As far as I'm concerned she is in a much better position than most parents. When the kids were nearly babies she had a huge windfall coming in. Had she saved even a fraction of all that money, she has 16 years of interest on her side. The stock market has hit record highs in those very same years. She could have ten times the amount she put in and still has six to eight more years of interest to go. Any prudent financial advisor would have her money in stocks if you have a 16 year timeline and could get all eight of them well set for college. It's not our fault if she didn't listen and didn't ride this easy street train.
Meanwhile, most normal people can barely afford to put a few hundred bucks in a college fund if anything at all. It will be harder to see that money grow nearly as much.
I'd like to see her address whether Jon was lying when he said they have substantial trust funds and that their college will be taken care of.
I couldn't sleep last night so watched The Woman Who Wasn't There. Thanks again to all of you for your great recommendations! I watched it on this website: http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/tania-head-the-911-faker/
& intend to look at some of the others available there.
Plus, there's no reason for Jon to lie about their trust funds. If they had no money why wouldn't he put that out there so that people could keep giving donations? He said very clearly they have substantial trust funds.
In addition, when I first emailed him one of my biggest concerns was the children's money and whether he had been able to protect it from Kate. He assured me that he has protected a great portion of their money, he was satisfied it was more than ample and that Kate couldn't touch it, and that we need not lament about that anymore. He said the judge overruled Kate on this issue, which is one of the examples of when he HAS had small wins in court we don't necessarily hear about. I was pleasantly surprised.
If it was indeed 900,000 in trust, that will be plenty. Especially with compounding interest.
sparkle said... 1 -----------
Thank you! Think you hit many critical points and the hypocrisy! Well done.
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