Osbourne also explained that people in the business, like Gilbert's legendary family, have a much better understanding of how the industry works than ill-prepared and naive reality T.V. families from middle America: "It's our industry. We know what we're going to get, you know what you're not going to get. So therefore, it's a whole different thing."
http://www.cbs.com/shows/the_talk/video/udVZeYSOtYRxGvlt7zt5sB6tB6y0KCS7/the-talk-7-16-2014/
1722 sediments (sic) from readers:
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Thank you! Think you hit many critical points and the hypocrisy! Well done.
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Thank you JMO!!
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 10
In addition, when I first emailed him one of my biggest concerns was the children's money and whether he had been able to protect it from Kate. He assured me that he has protected a great portion of their money, he was satisfied it was more than ample and that Kate couldn't touch it, and that we need not lament about that anymore. He said the judge overruled Kate on this issue, which is one of the examples of when he HAS had small wins in court we don't necessarily hear about. I was pleasantly surprised.
If it was indeed 900,000 in trust, that will be plenty. Especially with compounding interest.
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Admin, you do know by verifying that Jon fought for ample and untouchable trusts for the kids, you are taking acrylic tips off Kate's fingers and gas out of the gas tank in her Mercedes bus (diesel is not cheap, you know) ; ) ; ) ;)
Admin- Thanks for the clarification!
(Leslie)
Just curious, does anybody remember what kind of Audi got when she traded in her sport coupe. Thanks!
The sheep need to do their research about what Kate AND Jon have said about the college funds. The funds are TAKEN CARE OF. They BOTH admit this.
This is what Kate told Betheny after Betheny gave her a grilling: "The majority of what we made, I personally took and put into a college fund for the kids because they will go to college."
If you put the MAJORITY of what they made in a college fund and let it sit for 16 years there is no reason all eight can't go to college.
http://www.eonline.com/news/466092/kate-gosselin-feels-sadness-and-empathy-and-pity-for-ex-jon-gosselin
And this is what Jon has said, public record not to me, to OPRAH: "Yes, they have trust funds, and they’re taken care of educationally."
http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2013/11/kate-gosselin-letter-defending-children-jon-gosselin-developmental-comments/
Given that Jon said they are "taken care of" and Kate said the MAJORITY of their money went to college funds, seeing as that they both admitted they all have very good college funds, I'm not sure what Kate or the sheeple are whining about.
So it's entirely possible--even probable--that, even though there was enough money to put them through college at one time, there is no longer enough.
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Yes but Kate herself just recently said not a few months ago they still have the funds and that they're fine.
I mean when Kate herself is saying it it's baffling to me the sheeple would continue to insist she needs to exploit them for college.
Kate probably was fine years ago with money set aside for college because she believed the money would keep rolling in. Now that the rubber has hit the road that her TLC glory days are over, she probably is fretting about HER future standard of living. It's part of her deceptive nature to make it sound that she needs a good income for the kids when it's really all about HER. The kids will fine when college time comes.
Re: the kids working at jobs for their college educations.... haven't they been working at a job since they were babies? I'd say they've already earned plenty of the cost of getting their degrees. Why do they have to go back to work a second round of jobs? They did their part, all before they could pour their own cereal.
What's more, the children will be 18. Frankly, she is under no obligation to help them with college. It is an optional expense for parents who can afford it, not a mandatory expense you must provide your children like food or shelter.
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It depends. If it's written into the divorce/settlement agreement that one or both parents must provide for college, then they must follow that. It happened to one of my friends. The wife, who was earning a substantial bit more than the husband, agreed to split the cost with him on all four years of college expenses, room, board, books...everything. They wrote it into the terms of the divorce agreement. In their case, it is mandatory.
Thank you, Kirkland! As a Christian, Jesus Camp terrified me! If you want to see a gentle, inspiring story, watch God Grew Tired of Us. Your heart will melt for these young men.
Hot Coffee was eye opening too, wasn't it? Of course, THAT information and graphic images never hit the mainstream media. Not salacious enough!
anna ford @fordanna21 2h
@Kateplusmy8 so Kate where are the shows on TLC did u guys stop again?
Oops. Another lost soul who didn't get the memo that this wasn't a series, but rather just a two-part special! Milo isn't doing her PR work very well.
It depends. If it's written into the divorce/settlement agreement that one or both parents must provide for college, then they must follow that.
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Well that's a rare exception, and we have no reason to know that's part of the Gosselin divorce settlement.
In GENERAL, a parent is not obligated to support a child past the age of 18.
All money talk aside, just where exactly do these sheeple think she IS going to find any more gigs on tv? She doesn't have enough talent to sell swiffers on the shopping channel. She is NOT suited for the business. She got lucky in the beginning because the kids were cute and little and yada yada...but IT'S OVER.
Re: the kids working at jobs for their college educations.... haven't they been working at a job since they were babies? I'd say they've already earned plenty of the cost of getting their degrees. Why do they have to go back to work a second round of jobs? They did their part, all before they could pour their own cereal.
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Right, but the sheeple are saying they need to work NOW to support for college.
What we're saying is NO, you work when you are an ADULT to help pay for college. Now is not the time to do that. Nor does a parent HAVE to exploit their children to pay for college, what's more, s parent is not "generally" even required to pay for college. The whole sheeple argument is ridiculous, is the point. They never should have worked in the first place as children to pay for college, is the point.
Seems like Milo is losing it more than ever, if that's at all possible. She tweeted this last night:
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 15h
@Kateplusmy8 Successful women walk past ignorance, hate, gossip & negativity! We don't cower down! We R determined 2b the best we can be!
This is how she's "walking past" all the negativity, etc:
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 56m
Dumb critics gettin all out of whack because I said Gs belong 2Kate! Til they R of legal age...they are hers! She makes decisions 4them!
At least she admitted that the kids have no voice, and that Kate makes all the decisions.
Then she continues her "walk":
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 53m
@Kateplusmy8 Haters R the #Jack of ugly insults & can #Ace your self-esteem. But here's something 2never 4get....1 of 2 >
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 54m
@Kateplusmy8..2 of 2 > Love of family & friends never fails..always rises above..sees the good..stands firm & #Trumps the "Queens of Mean"!
James Miller @JamesMi09835625 · 35m
@MiloandJack @Kateplusmy8 If u really cared abt K8 & her kids u wld be honest w/her rather than enable her. UR a big part of her problem.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 33m
@JamesMi09835625 Don't know U...but there is NOTHING 2enable abt Kate! She's a mature, loving mother...take ur head out of tabloid sewer!
James Miller @JamesMi09835625 · 31m
@MiloandJack @Kateplusmy8 I have no doubt she loves her kids. Its not tabloid sewer. I have seen it w/my own eyes.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 17m
@JamesMi09835625 Well James....U better head 2CPS...we don't need silent/anon witnesses.
James Miller @JamesMi09835625 · 9m
@MiloandJack I'm not saying its a case 4 CPS. I have lost my temper a few times w/my own kids. Its exploitation 4 fame & money.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 2m
@JamesMi09835625 Ha....Kate's not into fame...she justneeds 2pay her bils & support these kids ...not my business how she does it.
If Kate's not "into fame" why doesn't she get a regular job? Kate herself said that she needs TV to pay her bills and I quote:
""If there was another way to singly support eight children, you would not know this name and I would be on an island, and so would they. You would never hear from us again."
Milo should just shut up. She's doing more harm to Kate than good.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 15
So it's entirely possible--even probable--that, even though there was enough money to put them through college at one time, there is no longer enough.
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Yes but Kate herself just recently said not a few months ago they still have the funds and that they're fine.
I mean when Kate herself is saying it it's baffling to me the sheeple would continue to insist she needs to exploit them for college.
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Lol, the sheeple just don't know how to help Kate, do they?
So with all that aside and both parents confirming that the kids education is secured (for those who choose to go) we get down to the real reason Kate wants she and the kids to be on tv. A mansion was purchased with 23 acres with no real long term plan or guarantee of income for paying for it. Kate chose to keep the mansion after the divorce, still with no real long term plan or gurantee of income to pay for it. For the first time in 10 years, Kate is having to pay for things herself, instead of the state and citizens of PA and TLC being her sugar daddy. In her mind, this is wrong and needs to be corrected immediately. She has 8 kids! It doesn't cross her mind that perhaps she needs to downsize to a smaller house and get rid of a vehicle or two. Instead, she feels someone or some network or company should take pity on her and see that she gets to maintain the lifestyle she feels she deserves.
From the People article on Jillian Michaels' decision to leave her reality show,written by the fabulous Kate Coyne, Jillian talks about all the negative blowback she was getting from her perceived enforcer role on the show, but apparently the real kick to the pants was when she picked her 4 year old up from day camp and the little one said, (paraphrase), "Mommy, every one says you're so mean."
This is what I have been saying for a long time, the Gosselin kids must get this, even in small doses, all the time. Does Kate not think that when she drops Cara off at lax practice during a week when The Talk has trashed her, that none of the other girls or their moms have seen the show? Is she that locked into her own narcissist world? I would think that more than one teen follows Kate's Twitter timeline as her notoriety shows up in selfies at tournaments. She can't keep the kids locked up and so she really, if cared about them at all, needs to get off Twitter, and bury herself deep in the private world. Will she? No, because she craves the attention. But it is not as if the negative attention bringing in a paycheck of any kind. I really feel for the kids, the teens especially have to know what many people think about their mother, and if they even read the nasty comment at places like ROL, even worse.
What's more, the children will be 18. Frankly, she is under no obligation to help them with college.
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I have to disagree she made her children pay and still are paying for her lifestyle so why can't she pay for a few years of college?
And most normal loving parents help their kids with higher education.
haven't they been working at a job since they were babies?
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According to Kate they've been playing all this time,
And most normal loving parents help their kids with higher education.
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Sigh. I feel like I'm being unclear.
Yes it would be nice if she helped her kids with college. Many loving parents financially cannot. In any case, that does not JUSTIFY exploiting them to "help" them with college, as the sheeple think it does.
The value of helping a child with college conflicts with exploiting them. She is not OBLIGATED to support them for college, and therefore, does not "need" to exploit them to do so.
In GENERAL, a parent is not obligated to support a child past the age of 18.
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But Administration we aren't talking about a normal parent here that works a 9to5 we're talking about a woman-(& previously Jon) who exploit their children for $$ & fame.
If these parents-(Jon & Kate) don't owe their kids to pay for college then I don't know what parent does.
They soild their kids privacy paying for college is the least they can do.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 2m
@JamesMi09835625 Ha....Kate's not into fame...she justneeds 2pay her bils & support these kids ...not my business how she does it.
Milo, you make everything Kate does YOUR business. Not into fame? That's got to be one of the funniest (and saddest) things Milo ever tweeted. Good lord. Her whole life is about fame. What Milo is saying here that the end justifies the means. She doesn't care how Kate goes about supporting the kids, even is exploitation is involved...even if these kids are forced to work to support themselves and their mother. Milo doesn't give a rat's rear end about those kids, and with that tweet, she makes it quite clear.
Problem is, she doesn't understand that no children should have to support their parents, and that's exactly what Kate is doing when she totes those kids out before the cameras.
I think that Milo is so far gone in this celebrity obsession that she can't possibly apply any kind of logical thinking to the situation. I wonder why those on Twitter even bother to engage her. I know it may be difficult to exercise self-restraint when she goes off on these tirades, but it's not going to do any good. Milo has no self-awareness, just like her hero.
Sometimes I actually feel sorry for her. I wonder if her own family ignores her because they know that she's so far into idolizing Kate that nothing they can say or do will make a difference. I also wonder that if they figured out if they leave Milo alone to worship Kate, it means less time for her to meddle into their lives. It must be a rather sad existence for Milo, devoting so much energy into something for which she gets absolutely nothing in return, other than the ridicule of the non-fans. But, hey, like Kate, she's done this to herself.
Then again, if Milo is a catfish, my whole theory goes out the window!
I seriously can't wait to see her deal with those kids in a few years. It ain't gonna be pretty.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 2m
@JamesMi09835625 Ha....Kate's not into fame...she justneeds 2pay her bils & support these kids ...not my business how she does it.
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Kate's not into fame? Did hell freeze over and no one told me? Se needs to support her kids (agreed) and it's not your business how she does it? Bwahahahahahahahahaha! Pardon my mirth but aren't you the one wanting to know every little detail of every little thing that goes on in her life? What did you cook for dinner? How's Zorro? How's Shoka? How's the weather? How's the pool? Are you running and if so how many miles? #andonandonandonandon Milo, go be with your mother and get off twitter.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 32
I got what you were saying this is why I said helped :-)
Well she not obligated to help them pay or pay for their colleges.
I just feel that since she exploited the crap out of them since they were babies that she should helped them.
Just IMO of course.
Ii can't imagine Kate without the kids someday. No one to order around, no Post-it notes on view, no pomp and circumstance around everything she does...she really has nothing else in her life. All the others interests have lost since waned, like running. She doesn't even like the pool.How will she fill her time? Is the the reason behind her new animal-lover persona?
I just feel that since she exploited the crap out of them since they were babies that she should helped them.
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Of course.
As long as it's not exploiting them.
The sheeple believe she is obligated to help them and must exploit them to accomplish this obligation.
It's not an obligation in the first place and exploiting children is wrong even if it were an obligation.
That's my issue and my only issue.
If Kate's not "into fame" why doesn't she get a regular job? Kate herself said that she needs TV to pay her bills and I quote:
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It's the lame excuse she's been spouting when asked that. All of the money she earns would have to go to pay a sitter. We all know that it isn't true, but she thinks everyone is stupid enough to buy her "reasoning." Now that the kids are no longer toddlers and are in school full-time, she'll have to come up with something better than that.
Isn't is simply amazing how a parent or a single parent of more than one child is able to support them without a television show? They work. They figure it out. Of course, downsizing and getting rid of three cars would be a step in the right direction. They don't need to live like that. Just imagine the huge expenses she could cut out by not having the maintenance of that house, the private school tuition, the insurance and upkeep of those cars. She certainly could work a normal job and take care of those children if she just used her head and came up with a plan. After all, as Milo says, she's not concerned with fame. Yeah, right...and I have some swamp land...
She's had her taste of being a celebrity. You can't keep 'em down on the farm after they've seen Paree.
Regarding child support in some states child support does not end at 18. My brother is paying for his 18 1/2 year old son until 21, per the state. If his son decided to move from his mother's house, I'm sure he could go back to court. And his son just graduated from high school and isn't planning to attend college, at least this coming fall.
I was always under the impression that child support ended at 18 or high school graduation.
In Pennsylvania, child support terminates when a child reaches the age of eighteen (18) or graduates from high school, whichever is later.
As long as it's not exploiting them.
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This would be a dream.
This is what I have been saying for a long time, the Gosselin kids must get this, even in small doses, all the time.
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Oh abso-freakin-lutely they've been told these things. We all had a neighborhood meanie, an old fart who was just miserable. SHE'S that person and you can bet other kids have been very vocal about it.
Glad to hear that Jon confirmed that the kids have a substantial amount of money hidden away in trust. Funny though he had to have a judge enforce it. Oh, what am I saying...of course he had to have a judge FORCE her to put money aside, all the while she's fighting against it.
Channel surfed to the Duff girls new cooking show. There's just no way Kate could ever pull something like this off. She's so comfortable with the camera, her food looks appealing, bright, and healthy. She knows what she's talking about when she talks about cooking.
It's still a bit of a fluffy Duffy, nothing special, but the production values are impressive.
Dumb critics gettin all out of whack because I said Gs belong 2Kate! Til they R of legal age...they are hers! She makes decisions 4them!
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Oh so if I want to, let's say, make the decision for MY kids to live in a closet, eat off the floor...I can because they are MINE? Until they are 18?
Then I guess there's no need for CPS, the police or social workers. We are ALL free to own our children and think of them as property, as possessions.
Why doesn't JON have a say??
stupid ignorant ass kisser
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 2m
@JamesMi09835625 Ha....Kate's not into fame...she justneeds 2pay her bils & support these kids ...not my business how she does it.
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hmmm, just like the pos-s that put their kids on street corners, on the internet, sell them...f$#@ she's making my blood boil today
In GENERAL, a parent is not obligated to support a child past the age of 18.
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Yes, it's this whole generation feeling they need to fund their adult children's education. Suze Orman is totally against it. Adults depleting their savings. going into debt, tapping into their retirement funds all to pay for college. it's not the right way to do it. And in tfw's case her lifestyle greatly increased, if she was so worried about college, why did she not live exactly like she did before and squirrel away the money. A truly sacrificing parent goes without if they are "honestly" worried about college. they are spending years socking away money and living with LESS "stuff"
Re: the kids working at jobs for their college educations.... haven't they been working at a job since they were babies?
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she fancies herself as another Trump or Sting or any other extremely wealthy adult who is trying to instill a strong work ethic in their children. Not just give them a trust fund and let them go nuts. BUT SHE DIDN'T EARN THAT MONEY!!!! She is rich BECAUSE of those kids. She STILL doesn't "work", she doesn't command respect, she rules with fear and intimidation.
And when they truly finally realize the bullshit she's been spewing about how hard she works and all she does for them?? Watch out
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Then why is she all ways begging to be on tv?
BUT SHE DIDN'T EARN THAT MONEY!!!! She is rich BECAUSE of those kids. She STILL doesn't "work",
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And this is my whole point.
she is not obligated to help them pay or pay for their colleges
No. But she is obligated to be a good steward of the money *they* earned, so that it is available to them for college, weddings, houses, further education.
I think that's what most people object to...she appears not to be a good steward of the money the kids earned, instead spending it frivously on herself.
I think the whole problem is that she didn't earn her wealth. If she earned it and still dressed her kids in too big clothes, didn't pay for college, or whatever, there wouldn't be so much of an uproar.
But the fact that *they* earned it and she spends it on *herself* is what people object to. It's not right.
Plus that fact that she's living an obviously wealthy lifestyle with the money her kids earned and then crying poor besides just doesn't sit well with just about anyone.
Vanessa...50
"BUT SHE DIDN'T EARN THAT MONEY!!!! She is rich BECAUSE of those kids"...
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And that's it in a nutshell. TCFW will never get this and neither will the sheeple. TCFW feels that she did all the work laying on bedrest for 645 years. She feels the kids have done nothing. They don't deserve the money. She does.
Joy...
I saw your comment on the previous thread. If there gets to be too many comments on this thread and the posters are up for a detour, I'll do a virtual tour of the historic downtown area of Sandwich.
Kate's not into fame?
Excuse me while I go check out a bridge I heard about....
I agree that parents are not obligated to pay for their childrens' college (although in Kate's case, I make an exception because the kids earned the money, not her).
I agree with you, Vanessa, that parents should not go into debt to pay for college. We had special funds for our daughter for college, but they didn't do so well so there wasn't alot of money by the time she went to college. We paid for the books every semester and a small part of the tuition; she took out college loans for the rest.
When she graduated, we were able to give her a monetary gift to put towards the college loans. However, she was responsible for paying off most of it, which she did.
I think that's what most people object to...she appears not to be a good steward of the money the kids earned, instead spending it frivously on herself.
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But how do we know this? We have no idea what she is using the money for, although I suspect that, knowing Kate's fondness for nice things, she very well could be dipping into that even though it is earmarked for their welfare. She could very well "fudge" the reasons for withdrawing the money -- education, mortgage, utilities, etc., because they kids need a house, food, and whatever. By default, then, in providing for them with their own money, she also receives the benefits.
But we have no idea what is left of that fund, if any, so it is just speculation that she is taking it for herself, not fact.
But we have no idea what is left of that fund, if any, so it is just speculation that she is taking it for herself, not fact.
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I think it's a fair bet she's really pissing away a heck of a lot of money on herself and her luxuries. It would be hard to support this lifestyle on only a few update specials and appearances like she's doing now.
However, I have no reason to believe their college funds are in jeopardy. One, Jon said they are secure, and he has no motivation to lie about that especially when he's been critical of Kate's finances and lifestyle. And two, when Betheny was on the attack and pressing her, Kate actually admitted well yeah they do have quite good college funds. Before she denied it when journalists were hand holding her, when she wasn't being pinned down. I think she gets more truthful the more you corner her.
I do believe they have substantial college funds and that college will be fine. I do believe that even if they didn't have college funds, it's not even remotely a good reason to continue filming. It's the sheeple who continue to use it as an excuse to exploit the children. That said, for all the work they did I would expect that there were more money than just a college fund. I would expect full trust funds that would make sure they are comfortable for decades to come. They certainly worked for five straight years to at least have that.
Admin,
In (11) you said a judge overruled Kate on the issue (of keeping the kids' money out of her reach). Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems like that's an indicator that she has tried to get at it, and Jon (and the judge) blocked her. Not surprising, really, but what kind of mother would do that? When they turn 18, will they be struggling to feed themselves while she's trading up to a bigger Audi with the money they earned?
The biggest issue is that she will not be paying for them to go to college. The kids already earned that money. They have already provided the money for their educations, so it is not an obligation for Kate. She doesn't have to contribute anything. Just give them the money they earned with their own hard work.
I recall an interview, right about the time K+8 ended, where Kate said the kids' college funds were "not even close to what they'll need". I think there was a post about it--there was a picture of Collin. I'll go back and look in the archives.
Leslie (16)
She traded her used Audi TT for an Audi A4. The guy down the street from me has an A4 convertible. A cute little car. I would bet my eyeteeth that Kate got a convertible. She would never settle for a sedan when she could get a convertible.
Does anyone know if the G kids still get a 'discount' on tuition for larger families? Also how much would the uniforms, supplies and fees cost per child a year? I know there are LDS parents out there! I wonder if the kids are on good behavior at school now- it's fairly strict, isn't it?
Collin looked like a model student, the only one with his shirt tucked in.Cara had a skirt that looked a bit short to me for school, but these are only superficial observations.
In Pennsylvania, child support terminates when a child reaches the age of eighteen (18) or graduates from high school, whichever is later.
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Generally, yes, UNLESS it is stipulated in the terms of the divorce that one or both parents will pay for the continuing higher education of their child/children. Of course, that's not considered "child support," but it would fall under the terms for which the divorce was granted. We don't know what was written into that divorce agreement concerning their college education.
As greedy as we all know ate is, I think she is seething that Jon and the judge stopped her from the college fund. She keeps blowing her horn that they need money for college, I think she wants to keep the donations coming in for it. Then I wouldn't put it past her to secretly hope they don't go so she could get her hands on it someway.
Jon stopped Steve from being on a account with ate. Remember that?
About Jamie's kids at the circus. I did not see them because when Jamie arrived, her kids were not there. So ate just took J back to the airport yesterday. So she has been there for a couple of months?
I guess ate's philosophies are rubbing off on J. A week home and a week away works best for our family. But a couple of months?
Found it! It was the post on this site dated July 29, 2011. Kate had done an interview where she said the kids' college savings was "not even close to what they'll need". But she had just told Natalie Morales in another interview that the kids had ample savings for college. So, which was the truth? She directly contradicted herself. I guess we'll know in a few years whether there is money for college or not. That time is coming soon--probably too soon for Kate's comfort.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 11
''Plus, there's no reason for Jon to lie about their trust funds. If they had no money why wouldn't he put that out there so that people could keep giving donations? He said very clearly they have substantial trust funds''..........
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Admin, I'm so glad you commented about the trust funds. Since Jon said that they have ''substantial trust funds'', I believe it is true. Jon may not have been able to prevent WOS from freely spending the money he, WOS and his children earned, but he did manage to protect their college trusts, thank goodness!
Kate has convinced herself that all of that money is actually hers and that she worked hard for it just like how I go to work every day at my office. She has gone on TV plenty of times to call the filming of her show, "work". Her "job". She thinks she is "good at it" and feels "comfortable in front of the camera". The kids just run in and out of the frame. So simple. So all that cash is hers and she is earning it for the family. Those kids are too young to figure out that they worked for that money, not her. They have her blabbing at them telling them she has to go to NY to "work" and LA to "work" and when asked what mom does when they are at school, Colin said, she "works". Aiden said she does errands too. Or goes back to bed. Robert let us know what her daily errands are: tanning, nails, package pick ups, shopping, hair etc. So once they go on the internet, they will see the millions of comments about that money being theirs. Will the kids go after her for it? Is the sky blue on a sunny day Kate? LOL.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbG412UiOAw
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Quintessential Kate in this clip. Bethenny asks her what happened to the money, and midstream through the answer Kate turns it into another bash Jon fest carrying on about how Jon turned into another person overnight and this is why the marriage failed.
Couple this with the fact that she starts this segment with Bethenny by stating that she's real and she has nothing to hide, but when the subject of money comes up, she obfuscates like there's no tomorrow.
I wonder if M and C will feel badly about bad mouthing the younger kids once they find out if it weren't for them they would not go to a private school, live in a mini-mansion, trips, clothes, ipods, etc. I wonder how the younger kids are going to feel when they find out they were conceived out of greed and not out of love. This is truly a mess she created. I can just imagine the emotions and animosity those kids are going to have for each other when they are older. Then Kate can really watch the "Rabid Beasts" when they are set loose.
Mel said... 56
Kate's not into fame?
Excuse me while I go check out a bridge I heard about....
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Forget the bridge. I'd be happy to show you the swamp land I'm selling.
I don't know why Gladys would say Kate's not into fame. She's "into it" like the rest of us are "into" oxygen. I hope someone is monitoring her meds. I think she's taking more than the prescribed dosage. She's more delusional than ever these days.
Here's a few snippets from an article in People written by her bottom feeder friend Coyne from Sept of 2011, after the Kate Plus 8 was dropped, cancelled, revoked, annulled or otherwise made void. (I enjoy writing that)
Bolding is mine, all mine.
Kate Plus 8: 'My Family Can't Be Canceled'
By KATE COYNE
Eight Kids, Six Years and One Failed Marriage Later, Kate Gosselin Faces Her Off-Camera Future
Kate feels it's the very least she can do; providing well for her massive brood has offset the downsides of reality stardom. "They gave up some freedom, some privacy," she says of her kids' on-camera lives. "As a trade-off, we live in a great house on great property, and they go to a great school. I feel they deserve that much. I can't ever say, 'Okay, I did this to them, but now that it's over we can just go back to living in a house where we're all on top of each other.' I don't want to take away anything they've been given."
While Kate says she's saved enough to last "for a little while" (and the kids have college funds established), real issues loom. "People think we made gazillions of dollars, and we didn't. After the show was canceled, I said, 'I'll go back to my old nursing job.' If nothing comes up, I'll do it," she says. "But the scary reality is, 12-hour nursing shifts every day wouldn't let me continue to provide well for eight kids essentially on my own. When you think about it that way, it gets really scary."
Yet Kate realizes some things remain the same whether a camera is rolling or not. "Tomorrow morning the nine of us will still wake up together. My family can't be canceled," she says. And trips, though scaled back, will continue: "Not like the ones they're used to, but as many as we can handle and afford." Some benefits of their old life will continue. Steve Neild, the security expert who is often by Kate's side, will remain a fixture. "He's always going to be with us. He and his wife are friends," she says. "He has moved from security to top adviser and road manager. His opinions are great; his advice is great. Everything we went through was hard on both our families; through it all he has cared about my kids and their future. He's amazing support when I need it. I've walked many hard miles, but I've had a small circle of people around me. He's one of them."
Still, she's not willing to let go of other dreams. For starters, don't expect her to fade into off-camera obscurity. "I want to stay in TV because I feel comfortable there; it's an exciting life," she says. Her children are another matter. "Give the kids a break, that's fine," she says. "Check back in with us when they're teenagers. I'd really love to find a place of my own on a talk show or something like that." Whatever shape her next job takes, Kate remains certain of one thing. "I'll be back," she says. "This is too much fun not to find a way back."
Oh and here's one more quote from the article from that bitch. It almost reads like she really is convinced that Jon is dead.
"As for Jon's take on the show ending, "I haven't heard from him directly, but I hear he's pleased," Kate says tersely. (Jon Gosselin could not be reached for comment.) Kate says when she views old episodes of herself in happier times with Jon, she feels no nostalgia. "I don't feel like that person exists anymore," she says of her ex. "And there's nothing that can be done about that."
Before I make my comments, I would be remiss if I did not acknowledge the outstanding series of interesting, funny, touching, educational—and the list goes on—posts by Admin! Though I read here almost everyday, I only rarely make a comment, but need to applaud your amazing abilities and want you to know you are appreciated! Of course the “regulars” have input that usually say what I am thinking—much better than I can say it! So thank you to those of you adding so much to this blog.
Meanwhile, may I share something I indirectly suggested to the Gosselin parents several years ago when discussion came up about paying for their children’s college education? I urged them to do what I did: get advanced education.
In my case, getting a PhD opened doors that would have been otherwise closed as I eventually became a university administrator and professor! Having earned a number of degrees prior to getting my doctorate (I started out as a nurse, by the way!), I was able to put my son and daughter through college tuition free, including a master’s degree! Even though I enjoyed an affluent life as the daughter of a nationally recognized innovative MD, I also recognized the importance of making my own way in this world. With God’s help, nothing feels as good as earning what you get in life, rather than having it handed to you!
Whether or not the Gosselin children have dedicated funds for their educational pursuits, can you imagine the positive impact if they saw their parents make an honest effort at bettering themselves? Heaven knows it appears their mother has all kinds of time on her hands each day while the children are in school. Why not use that time to enhance her education instead of constantly looking for the freebies? Where is the honor in that pursuit?
When I was dean of faculty, one of my responsibilities was to observe various classes. One interesting class involved a lecture by a professor discussing this term: rightsizing! As opposed to the negative connotations associated with “downsizing,” to rightsize is to make the necessary changes in order to become efficient and effective. Though the lecture pertained to corporations, I always think of how TFMJG would do well in rightsizing everything in her life! It is not too late…if one is willing!
Layla said... 65
Kate is always lying about something.
Excuse me while I go check out a bridge I heard about....
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Careful Milo might be trolling under their inorder to protect his/her's queen.
My family can't be canceled
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Excuse me but what how do you cancel a family?
AuntieAnn said... 72
"As for Jon's take on the show ending, "I haven't heard from him directly, but I hear he's pleased," Kate says tersely. (Jon Gosselin could not be reached for comment.) Kate says when she views old episodes of herself in happier times with Jon, she feels no nostalgia. "I don't feel like that person exists anymore," she says of her ex. "And there's nothing that can be done about that."
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AuntieAnn, in this case I think WOS accidentally spoke the truth. She IS right that Jon is not the person he once was...the man that allowed her to slap him, ridicule his breathing, not recognize that HE was doing most of the care of his children, and on and on and on.
Thank goodness for Jon and his children that THAT person doesn't exist anymore! WOS has lost control of Jon, and ''there is nothing that can be done about that''. Period.
Why would the kids need a break from something so beneficial for them?
She just really can't keep anything straight, it's unbelievable.
AuntieAnn said... 72
"As for Jon's take on the show ending, "I haven't heard from him directly, but I hear he's pleased
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I believe when he was on WW-(wendy) show she asked him why did he have to work.
And he said he paid for lawyers and his div CS he also said that HE made sure that 80% of what the kids got paid went into trust. Jon also said yes We/He did make a lot of money for TLC.
Whether or not the Gosselin children have dedicated funds for their educational pursuits, can you imagine the positive impact if they saw their parents make an honest effort at bettering themselves?
I have not seen anyone else express that better, California Suzy. This is a huge piece of the picture that is missing. Of course we don't know what Jon may have done -- getting a new job in IT after being out of the field for some time suggests he probably did some upgrading.
Kate could start in a small way by picking up a book or two this summer along with the kids.
Here is Jon on WW explain $$
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQVeHaiqDRE starts at 4:33
Why is everything so dramatic and over the top with this woman? She wouldn't be working "12 hour nursing shifts every day". She could do three 12's or two 12's and 2 8's per week and make out just fine. Admit it TCFW. You have no plans to go back to nursing. Fine. However, don't insult us by saying you couldn't support your kids on a nursing salary.
One interesting class involved a lecture by a professor discussing this term: rightsizing! As opposed to the negative connotations associated with “downsizing,” to rightsize is to make the necessary changes in order to become efficient and effective.
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More political correct speech? I have to wonder if the employees who get laid off when their company "rightsizes" feel more positive about their job loss or is that just to make management feel better...until they, too, get "rightsized."
Remona Blue said... 77
AuntieAnn, in this case I think WOS accidentally spoke the truth. She IS right that Jon is not the person he once was...the man that allowed her to slap him, ridicule his breathing, not recognize that HE was doing most of the care of his children, and on and on and on.
Thank goodness for Jon and his children that THAT person doesn't exist anymore! WOS has lost control of Jon, and ''there is nothing that can be done about that''. Period.
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I think he buried who he really was until his conscience wouldn't allow him to go along with Kate's plan (scam) anymore. I think when he finally cracked under the pressure and from Kate's constant abuse, the old Jon came out from hiding.
Of course Kate thought it was the ultimate betrayal so he's dead to her. Just like everyone else who will not see/do things her way - they are gone.
So yes, I completely agree with you Remona. The Jon that Kate molded into a Jon that was to her liking doesn't exist any longer, and thankfully so.
chefsummer said... 76
My family can't be canceled
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Excuse me but what how do you cancel a family?
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Katespeak. What can we say? lol! But good point. She can say that but Jon couldn't use 'seasons' to describe their life. She always took great pleasure in her adverse criticism of him in front of the camera.
capecodmama said... 82
Why is everything so dramatic and over the top with this woman? She wouldn't be working "12 hour nursing shifts every day". She could do three 12's or two 12's and 2 8's per week and make out just fine. Admit it TCFW. You have no plans to go back to nursing. Fine. However, don't insult us by saying you couldn't support your kids on a nursing salary.
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Yes, but Shmoops wants 'a place of her own on a talk show or something'. Ha! That ship sailed. A talk show with her as a host wouldn't last a month. She's nuts if she thinks anyone is interested in hearing her utter another word on television.
Don't tell Gladys that though. She thinks Kate isn't into fame.
Dear gawd. I need a big tall rumspringa.
One interesting class involved a lecture by a professor discussing this term: rightsizing! As opposed to the negative connotations associated with “downsizing,” to rightsize is to make the necessary changes in order to become efficient and effective.
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More political correct speech? I have to wonder if the employees who get laid off when their company "rightsizes" feel more positive about their job loss or is that just to make management feel better...until they, too, get "rightsized."
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I never thought of downsizing as having negative connotations. My parents downsized when everyone left the nest. For them it was the right choice. They moved into a lovely condo, called it downsizing, but as far as I know, there wasn't anything negative about it. It was just another phase of their lives beginning without the burden, responsibility and cost of a huge house and lots of acreage to maintain.
For them, "downsizing" was indeed positive. In this case, there was nothing negative about it.
Are the sheeple running out of damage control when it comes to Kate's book? How are they explaining his great sales? I'm surprised they haven't yet pulled the old "haters are buying all of the books" tactic. Yes, indeed, watch for it. The six or so haters each have purchased 300 copies to boost the numbers and make it appear that his sales have surpassed Kate's on the doomed cookbook.
Weirdo Watcher @Weirdo_Watcher
@Kateplusmy8 As a casual observer, I don't think much of your ex & wouldn't trust him out of my sight. That goes for his buddy Hoffman too
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What an idiot. This is when, if I were Kate, I would put out a blanket request that these sheeple do not speak ill of the father of her children. Of course, she'll never do it, but she'd gain a considerable amount of respect if she did. They need to have their fingers slapped, and that includes Milo's.
This "weirdo" person isn't here. I'd have no problem with my own kids being in Jon's care. I would have complete trust in him. I've seen him many times interacting with his children, and the love he has for them. I would, however, have reservations about leaving kids in Kate's care, especially now when everything around her is crashing down. I don't trust her stability at all. Something's gotta give.
Well, Blowing, it all depends on which side of the downsizing you are on. In ate's case it would mean getting rid of pool boys, nannies, and Steve. All very well for ate but somewhat hard on the employees, although they all probably have other clients . In business it means booting people out the door even if you dress it up with a kinder, gentler term.
Dear gawd. I need a big tall rumspringa.
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Well, Auntie. The invitation still stands. If you're ever down this way...!!
I was just reading an article about the Sandusky's family response to Matt's Oprah interview. Part of the response said:
""Our family is supportive of our father/husband and hope that truth and justice will prevail as we know untruths have been spoken, at the trial and since then on TV. Some people want us to speak. Others don't. When we have tried to speak and share our side of the story, we are called liars and delusional. We are not in denial. The story we share is true and honest and what we lived. We saw no abuse ever take place and never saw or heard of any indication that anything inappropriate was ever occurring."
http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2014/07/sandusky_appellate_attorney_is.html
So just because they never saw it, they say it never took place? Sorry, but yes, they ARE in denial.
Well, Auntie. The invitation still stands. If you're ever down this way...!!
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Aw thanks PA. I'll print that out and hold you to it. Boy will you be sorry. lol.
pym said... 90
Well, Blowing, it all depends on which side of the downsizing you are on. In ate's case it would mean getting rid of pool boys, nannies, and Steve. All very well for ate but somewhat hard on the employees, although they all probably have other clients . In business it means booting people out the door even if you dress it up with a kinder, gentler term.
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I agree, however, to me the word rightsizing is even more offensive than downsizing (in the business world). Rightsizing sounds like things will be just the right size once they're rid of x number of employees.
My definition of rightsizing is making a company the right size after profit loss, so the CEO can continue getting his big paycheck. Rightsize=less employees and more money for the man. LOL
We saw no abuse ever take place and never saw or heard of any indication that anything inappropriate was ever occurring."
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This family infuriates me. They need to take a sexual abuse awareness class and get some intensive therapy. Talk about sheep.
This guy was smart and sophisticated. He wasn't going to LET you see anything. He was going to LET you know anything was inappropriate. If you DID notice anything he had a circle of protectors around him making sure nothing came of it. The bulk of the abuse didn't even occur in the family home or around his family. When it did it was carefully hidden away in the basement behind closed doors. His abuse occurred in schools, on campus, and on the road.
He is the worst kind, because he is so darn good at covering it up.
Have they read the reports? Why would the janitor who walked in on him make it up? It's not like he got a payout for it. In fact, he kept it pretty quiet between himself and a few coworkers. And when he saw it he had no idea S. was a pervert. It makes absolutely no sense to make something like that up. None. In fact it probably put his job in jeopardy which explains why he was afraid to say anything. It wasn't until years later when it all blew up the coworkers came forward and disclosed he had told them he saw something. He is now ailing.
Those in his family who have kids better be darn careful. Go around refusing to believe sexual abuse too much and a judge might be concerned you can't protect your children from inappropriate people and take them away from you. Careful what you say because it can and does happen.
We saw no abuse ever take place and never saw or heard of any indication that anything inappropriate was ever occurring."
http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2014/07/sandusky_appellate_attorney_is.html
So just because they never saw it, they say it never took place? Sorry, but yes, they ARE in denial.
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Where have we heard that before?
What an affront to the victims of that pervert.
...the man that allowed her to slap him, ridicule his breathing, not recognize that HE was doing most of the care of his children, and on and on and on.
Thank goodness for Jon and his children that THAT person doesn't exist anymore! WOS has lost control of Jon, and ''there is nothing that can be done about that''. Period.
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Now he allows his new gf to take that role. Didn't you see how he was treated by her on Couples Therapy? *That* Jon, sadly, still seems to exist. Hopefully he learned something on there.
Kate needs to downsize in the best interest of her children. It will be very unfortunate for any of her staff who would have to be laid off, but you have to do what is in the best interest of you and your family. You can't live beyond your means and waste money because you feel badly about firing someone you can't afford in the first place. This goes for anyone, people and companies alike. As a society we need to adjust to downsizing and being less bloated and more efficient. It is in our long term best interest. Generally, downsizing your home life doesn't involve firing anyone because most people downsizing don't have employees in the first place. I guess it indirectly hurts businesses because you're not buying so much unnecessary junk anymore, but that's speculative.
What do they say to the fact that two of the victim's stories were nearly identical yet it was proven they never even met, talked or knew of each other? Just one big coincidence?
In other words S. had an M.O. and the boys with similar stories proves he used the same M.O. on each victim.
I am very sorry for these people and fear for their kids.
Well, Blowing, it all depends on which side of the downsizing you are on. In ate's case it would mean getting rid of pool boys, nannies, and Steve. All very well for ate but somewhat hard on the employees, although they all probably have other clients
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Kate says she doesn't have any help, so who would be affected?
Not all business owners are just out to make as much money as possible and cut everyone's jobs. In fact in this recession there are countless stories of business owners taking no pay check at all. The media highlights a few stories of selfish and greedy CEOs. That's not how everyone is. However, someone who is legitimately high skilled and educated should be paid more. There is nothing wrong with that. I would not expect someone qualified to be a CEO who obtained the job fairly and properly to make the same as a line worker.
Some cuts are necessary. If the alternative is to go bankrupt and EVERYONE gets fired that's not attractive. We were WAY too bloated and if we insist on staying that way it's going to result in another economic crash. We simply cannot support it.
In my case, getting a PhD opened doors that would have been otherwise closed as I eventually became a university administrator and professor!
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Are you sure that you have the D?
I don't think Kate is Phd material with or without the d.
It depends on the degree how helpful it is to advancement. But at the very least she could have advanced her studies in nursing. Learned a new skill, taken continuing ed classes, and kept up with the industry. There's no way she could get a job now in this area without months perhaps even years of work getting herself back up to speed. I also think she could have spent all these years learning to get very good at producing, directing, or other production roles as many actors do. If she actually applied herself she might just have been able to get a job at TLC in production. What an absolute waste.
Doesn't she ever miss working? The kids are in school so much now and this is the time when many women get the itch to go back to work. Did she ever have a passion for it at all or was it just about marrying a doctor? The bottom line is she never has wanted to get back into nursing or any other job regardless of all these silly excuses--she wants to be a star, just admit it.
Now he allows his new gf to take that role. Didn't you see how he was treated by her on Couples Therapy? *That* Jon, sadly, still seems to exist. Hopefully he learned something on there.
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Yeah, I don't see much change in Jon really. He's still passive and hasn't found his voice in relationships.
"Kate's not into fame" - proof positive that Gladys is living in
fantasyland. The more she tries to defend her goddess, the
more out of touch she sounds.
I can show you a way to disprove her comment. Find any random
10 pictures of TFW with her kids. Then find any random 10 pictures
of TFW playing star. Crop the pictures so only her face shows.
Then look at the faces. When she is the center of attention,
being catered to in any manner, her face is lit up like effin'
Christmas morning (the real one, not the TLC one celebrated
around Labor Day). When she's with her kids, she looks put
upon, exasperated, tired, and disappointed. If she is smiling,
as many people here have noticed, it never reaches her eyes.
Here's my version of Gladys' tweet:
"TFW isn't into being a mother, she justneeds 2pay her bils & support her kids because they're her ticket2ride...and as she said on Larry King, it is very much my business. 8LittleMealTickets#OneLazyMom"
I thought it was positive that Liz both recognized her flaws, seemed to feel badly about her behavior and strived to change it. I hope she has made the change permanent.
She's not ideal but I think it's unfair to imply he's traded one awful woman for another. Dr. Jenn wasn't afraid to tell people they should break up but she seemed hopeful they could make it work if they wanted to.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 103
It depends on the degree how helpful it is to advancement. But at the very least she could have advanced her studies in nursing. Learned a new skill, taken continuing ed classes, and kept up with the industry.
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She could read a frickin' newspaper once in a while to know what's going on in the world, instead of watching DVDs of their show. She couldn't learn a new skill, she's the expert at everything. Narcs like her always think they're better than everyone else and shouldn't have to improve, they're perfect just the way they are. Whatever they choose to do in life, the people with the education/experience are their peers. Eg. Tony-he's a professional but she's going to teach him how to teach. People like her don't need to do the mundane and actually learn something. It's in their blood and their brilliant minds will see them through. Education is for the mediocre people.
PJ
The bottom line is she never has wanted to get back into nursing or any other job regardless of all these silly excuses--she wants to be a star, just admit it.
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Kate likes the big, fast money when it does come her way, from whatever silly, mindless reality tv gig that might be. That and the pampering in the makeup room and the hair treatments, the swag, being with other celebrities, sitting in the wings and the green room and all the other stuff that comes with being (and I'm choking as I write this) a 'star'. She thrives on being recognized.
All the attention tv gives her is like a narcissistic IV drip feeding directly into her veins. "It's too much fun!". What could be a better way to get that supply for someone like her.
Yep. Going back to nursing is absolutely out of the question now. It's not going to happen and never was. And we don't even want to think how awful it would be for others to have to be on the same shift.
Let her keep trying to make it where she is. Who knows, she might find some rich stupid producer to marry. Then she can suck the life out of him too. It might take the heat off the kids. Hell, she'd probably even give them all up for if that were to happen.
Aw thanks PA. I'll print that out and hold you to it. Boy will you be sorry. lol.
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LOL!
We'll round up the other locals, head on over to the real Rumspringa Brewery, and the only ones who will be sorry will be the good people there who have to pick us up off the floor!
little edie said... 97
''Now he allows his new gf to take that role. Didn't you see how he was treated by her on Couples Therapy? *That* Jon, sadly, still seems to exist. Hopefully he learned something on there.''
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I did see CT, and it was clear that BOTH Jon and Liz learned a lot during Couples Therapy. I don't see Jon on social media. I don't see Jon exploiting his children in any way. I do hear from people who HAVE seen Jon with his children that he is a loving and caring father. I think I'll believe them.
little edie, it seems you've made up your mind, so just go ahead on, think what you want to think.
Norma said... 104
''Yeah, I don't see much change in Jon really. He's still passive and hasn't found his voice in relationships.''
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I think it would be more accurate to say that one doesn't see much of Jon at all. How would we know if he is STILL ''passive or hasn't found his voice in relationships'' or not? The only ones that have actually seen Jon are some of the locals that comment here, and they have very positive things to say about Jon.
Remona Blue said... 110
I think it would be more accurate to say that one doesn't see much of Jon at all. How would we know if he is STILL ''passive or hasn't found his voice in relationships'' or not? The only ones that have actually seen Jon are some of the locals that comment here, and they have very positive things
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Ramona you are awesome. It frustrates me when people think just because Jon has not said anything public he hasn't done anything or is passive. He is attacked on every side whenever he does try to say something. I don't blame for keeping quiet.
I felt KIND OF bad for Liz on celeb. rehab. She had never been on a reality show before and the public ate her up. Yes she was a lot like Kate. It was brought up and she even began to see it for herself. Jon had made a comment during the airing that the therapy helped them a lot and we have heard comments where they are still living together. I hope they have really taken what they have learned and have improved. I hope that Dr. Jen made arrangements to continue therapy after the show in their home town.
The bottom line is that Jon CAN'T comment positively about anything Kate does because there isn't anything she does that is positive. It's best that he keeps quiet. After all, isn't this one of his greatest criticisms when he does say anything? "Jon should stayed silent." "Jon shouldn't have said that about his mother." etc.
Damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. The greatest of the two for the kids is he doesn't. I think he gets that better than any one.
The other thing with the nursing is you don't have to work 3 12-hr shifts or whatever anymore. There are a lot of jobs where you work from home or an office with regular or even flexible hours. You can do call centers/advice lines, you can do paper work for insurance companies, you can work on clinical trials or for pharmaceutical companies. But you have to interview and get a job; then you actually have to do work. And all those jobs have a boss. I think that's the real problem. I can't even imagine her first performance review.
How is it that Jamie can only now be leaving after 6-7 weeks at Kate's house? Doesn't she have a job either? Doesn't Jamie want to see her kids at all? (Even if their father has custody she should have visitation during those weeks.) I don't understand this relationship either. Jamie is willing to come to PA and stay for 7 weeks being ordered around, doing chores and driving children, in return for what?
Oop's, I meant Couples Therapy not celeb. rehab. lol silly me.
Ramona, that is too kind of you. Thank you for allowing me to reserve my own judgement! :)
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 101
We were WAY too bloated and if we insist on staying that way it's going to result in another economic crash. We simply cannot support it.
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Not being obtuse, here, Admin. I honestly don't know what you mean by "bloated." Certain industries had too many employees? When unemployment is low, are we bloated? Who is "we?" I read here all the time that the economy is still in bad shape. Isn't unemployment one of the reasons? How do we keep people employed without becoming bloated?
Maybe Jamie made two trips to PA? I can't imagine wanting to stay ( in the main house) for almost 2 months. She would have had to arrive in good time for filming the tups' party..There weren't any twitter pics or mentions of her, were there? I would hope it was two separate visits and she did indeed see her own children.
AuntieAnn said she needed a big tall rumspringa.
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Would a big, tall, cold 40 oz. rumspringa do?
Not being obtuse, here, Admin. I honestly don't know what you mean by "bloated."
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Many industries had too many employees. Surely you heard about this. A great deal of cuts occurred across the board so that industries are still running but with less staff.
In my own experience, we had many cuts in the court system over the past several years. It was very difficult on many people. The tradeoff is now it runs much more efficiently with less employees and much cheaper. Everything still gets done.
I know that she lives out of state with her husband but do Jamie's kids and their father still live in PA? If so she may fave clown back to get them for summer custody time (with TLC footing the bill while she filmed) and when she brought them back she stopped in for another visit with TFW. I doubt she was with her this whole time - she wasn't in any of the Lacrosse pictures and I'm sure she would have gone so TFW had someone to talk to and there weren't any tweets about the great time they were having. I'm sure she would have tweeted about another girls night out (or girls get-away weekend) so Milo could lead the charge telling her how much she deserved it.
Adding to my Jamie post, her kids seem like very nice children. The twin girls seemed well-behaved and cooperative, and ready for fun. Clay seems spirited and eager to join in. Their treatment by the G kids was awful. We don't know what the Lego fuss with Cara and Collin was all about but Clay was blamed for just wanting to play.Same with the Play Doh when the tup girls were so rude and unwilling to share. I would think he would get on fine with the tup boys, though, Joel and Aaden anyway...Cara really shocked me on the RV trip about the Lego and Kate also blamed Clay and Jamie.
I did think Jamie's kids seemed like good kids.
I distinctly remember one of the Tup girls making fun of Clay and provoking him, calling him weird. Clay was just quietly playing with a stick in the dirt, minding his own business. Clay finally snapped back, "According to science, you're weird." It was funny and completely deserved. Don't keep poking someone then expect them not to poke back. Of course the Tup was scandalized. But I actually thought it was good for the kids to get a little "real world" push back from a kid instead of being able to run everybody over like a Mack truck and have them just take it, per their usual schedule.
James Garner died.
The Notebook, The Rockford Files, Maverick, Victor/Victoria.
15 Emmy nominations, Emmy for The Rockford Files, Emmy for Maverick. Oscar nomination for Murphy's Romance.
The awards list is too long: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001258/awards
Purple Heart in Korea. RIP James Garner.
"Bloated" is a relative term, I guess. I haven't noticed more "efficient" operations, but I *have* encountered significant backlogs at the cash register, phone-in centers, and help desks, practically everywhere I turn.
In my own experiences and that of my colleagues, service workers and professionals alike are being required to absorb the responsibilities of laid off workers, without an accompanying boost in pay. That's demoralizing and detrimental in countless ways. As for any rise in "productivity and efficiency," this study suggests the root cause of both is fear, not business acumen : "... workers were still able to do more work than ever before. The explanation? Workers who are fearful of losing their jobs are willing to do more."
http://www.navitrust.com/blog/2013/09/25/nationwide-study-analyzes-the-effect-of-layoffs-on-remaining-workers/
I'm glad you're not being impacted, Admin, except in positive ways. I'm not a lawyer and I haven't had any direct experience with the CA court systems, but this LA TIMES article (May 2014) paints a portrait of system-wide problem...courts and cases plagued by significant, ongoing problems as a direct result of recent budget cuts and layoffs:
http://www.latimes.com/local/la-me-court-cuts-20140511-story.html#page=1
WHAT THE HELL AUTO CORRECT???!!! "fave clown" in my post above (121) should have been "have flown".
Twitter Storm Alert! Till Noon
Twitter Storm for SeaWorld! #EmptyTheTanks #BLACKFISH #SEAWORLDBOYCOTT #NoSchoolFieldTripsToSEAWORLD
The announcement for the twitter storm for seaworld said noon. It should be all day!
Ok, Admin, you're talking government bloat. That's true and IMO it's still bloated, but I don't find bloat in the private sector so much. There's unemployment which should have reduced some of that supposed bloat but they end up on the gov't dole which requires more gov't workers which causes...bloat.
As for any rise in "productivity and efficiency," this study suggests the root cause of both is fear, not business acumen : "... workers were still able to do more work than ever before. The explanation? Workers who are fearful of losing their jobs are willing to do more."
But at least now the companies are "rightsized."
I didn't say we're not being impacted. I said everything still gets done. This comes with a lot more wait times, mistakes, stress, and certainly lower morale for more work for the same or less pay. We even had furloughs for awhile. But, the end result is still achieved.
We are at a terrible crossroads where we cannot afford the system that we set up and allowed to expand so significantly. We had no choice, the money simply wasn't there anymore to support it. Unless people want to pay more taxes. People always want things to stay as they are but no one is willing to pay to make it happen. There's no magic way to make it work as before that anyone has hit on other than cuts.
Government bloat in CA is/was absurd. I can't speak so much for the private sector. I don't think most savvy business people would allow that to happen in the first place. When you run a business you should know exactly how many workers and how much money you need to spend to achieve the results you want. You don't go over that unless you legitimately can afford it. Government is notorious for always pushing the envelope beyond that limit by leaps and bounds. No private business can run like the government runs its businesses or they would fail within weeks! The tragic result is that a lot of people were hired who never should have been hired in the first place. They thought they had a good job in a secure area, only to be furloughed, fired, or both.
Workers who are fearful of losing their jobs are willing to do more."
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Well wait a second. Somehow because their jobs were in jeopardy they found it in them to turn out more work product? Imagine that. Maybe everyone's jobs should be on the line, lol.
Seriously though, I don't find this study that compelling. It's not such a bad thing to find ways for workers to churn out more work product out of necessity, within REASON. It doesn't have to be one extreme or the other. On the one hand, you don't need ten people to do a job better suited for two or three. I saw this all...the...time in CA government jobs. However, if it's a job for two or three people then it should be two or three, not just one or none.
I work for the federal government and I can tell you that there's been a hiring freeze on for quite a while now. If someone leaves for another job or retires they don't hire behind him. We do more with less people because we can't let the mission fail. No bloat in my office.
NJgal51...said 126
"fave clown"
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It is okay, NJ! Jamie WAS with her "fave clown". Bwahahahaha!
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 103
I don't think Kate is Phd material with or without the d.
It depends on the degree how helpful it is to advancement. But at the very least she could have advanced her studies in nursing. Learned a new skill, taken continuing ed classes, and kept up with the industry.
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My career has been in health care, some 20+ years, and I've worked in a variety of settings.
I have always envied nurses- yes, that career that Kate threw away, and here's why: nurses can get the fast track into management and hospital administration.
They are heads of departments etc.
Nursing is an amazing career choice, so all of this "I can't go back to nursing" is bullshit.
Kate should have advanced her degree, and by now, she's have an excellent job and lifetime career that would NOT be 12-hours days, rather, it would be 9-5.
The fact is that Kate never wants to have to work a normal job again.
Formerly Duped said... 122
Adding to my Jamie post, her kids seem like very nice children. The twin girls seemed well-behaved and cooperative, and ready for fun. Clay seems spirited and eager to join in. Their treatment by the G kids was awful.
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I think we got a glimpse of how the G8 interact with other kids. Unfortunately I think some of them have taken on Kate's superiority complex to a degree. Clay and his sister obviously were outnumbered and certainly not as accustomed to the added intrusion of the cameras as Kate's kids are. It was like tossing lambs into the wolves den.
I wonder whose bright idea it was to take Jamie and her two kids, Kate and her eight, Ashley, Ratclaws, probably eight or nine (maybe more) crew members, a couple of drivers, throw them all together for two weeks and watch what happens. Surely they knew it would not end well. I hope they hid the knives.
I very rarely comment on tweets as I don't tweet, the fans are delusional in their blind adoration of Kate and nothing will change the remaining believers minds. However, two of Milo's tweets demand a response.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack • 15h
@Kateplusmy8 Successful women walk past ignorance, hate, gossip & negativity! We don't cower down! We R determined 2b the best we can be!
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She's right successful women can and should! However, successful women are just that, successful, because of their hard work and commitment. Not their children's, their spouse's, though as a TEAM with their spouse, yes. They don't sacrifice their children's privacy and sense of security to live a life of luxury because of their sense of entitlement. That old song comes to mind "She works hard for the money … " Kate wouldn't know hard work if it hit her in the face.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack • 2m
@JamesMi09835625 Ha....Kate's not into fame...she justneeds 2pay her bils & support these kids ...not my business how she does it.
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Bullshit, see the above, plus... If Kate didn't care about fame, she wouldn't have taken the path she did. They sought fame out and once she got a taste of it there was no going back, no matter the consequences or the well-being of her husband, marriage or children. Thousands of large families successfully support themselves daily without pimping their children's childhoods out to the highest bidder!
She also has admitted that she likes showbiz and that it's her desired career. However, her performances on The View, wooden appearances on talk shows and cooking demo's should have shown her clearly, her 'gift of gab' didn't translate to hosting or presenting. IF she had dedicated herself to improving her communication skills and 'talent' she may well have been able to parlay that into a somewhat successful career on TV.
To become successful in any field, it takes hard work and dedication. When it was dependent on Kate herself to commit and put in a hard day's work, she didn't. Instead of buckling down, putting in the time and effort required, she cried and blamed the instructor, that he didn't know how to teach her. Wonder if we'll get to see what efforts she put forth on CA and when she fails, who's to blame?
Milo tweeted that ate wasn't into fame.
Sorry, I disagree oh, idol worshiper one!
Remember when ate was on the Red Carpet at the Emmy's? She was smiling so big and creepy like, the wheels in her brain were spinning they love me, they want me, they want me on tv, kids? WHAT KIDS?
Then she said it all! This is my FIRST EMMY Red Carpet. I have never recalled anybody saying anything like that ever. Like they are going to love her so much, that offers and deals will pour out of the sky like Manna for Momma! The piecing and patching Momma of Eight. Oh, I forgot what eight?
When she was in the sketch when they opened the door, it would of been much better to have seen Antoine Dodson of the Hide yo kids, Hide yo wife. He was big right then. But they chose a Haus Ex-Frau from PA with 8 kids. So dumb. So dumb.
Hollywood must confess, they're not going to ask you again, not going to ask you again
So now you can go and run and tell that, run and tell that to Steve boy, Steve, Steve, Steve boy.
AuntieAnn said, I hope they hid the knifes.
Oh, wow. That is what that devil step-mom told that little boy that was found in the basement. But she threatened him when said she knew where the knives were. I hope they permanently take away their parental rights and give full custody to his bio mom. He is with her and is happy. They abused the hello out of him.
When the dad was on Nancy Grace, she told him that they had just found his son alive in the basement and his reaction is totally ridiculous. He knew he was in the basement. A normal dad would of jumped up and scream, he's alive! I want to see him! Someone take me to him! He never did or say that! He sat there trying to fake a panic attack!
I just received a FULL PAGE thank you e-mail and apology for the delay from.......ROBERT. It's a form letter, but I know it's legit because it came through PayPal and has the correct name, donation amount and other info. It came into my Junk folder from Dameon (and some numbers) and I was just ready to delete it when I decided to take a peek.
Totally unnecessary, but very nice anyway. THANKS, Robert!
Fido (#140), nice to hear you got a thank you, even though I know
you said it didn't matter to you either way. I've always enjoyed your
comments, and notice that you don't post as often as you used to.
Hope you're well!
Regarding Jamie--remember, we only have Kate's word that she was actually there. Even if Jamie was there, I doubt if Jamie has been there since they filmed the party. When the 2nd part of the special was airing, Kate tweeted:
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 · Jun 26
Awwwww I miss my Jamie..... :( @TLC
Why would she tweet that if Jamie was still there?
Lukebandit said Oh, wow. That is what that devil step-mom told that little boy that was found in the basement.
What are you talking about?
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack • 15h
@Kateplusmy8 Successful women walk past ignorance, hate, gossip & negativity! We don't cower down! We R determined 2b the best we can be
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Ummmm no Milo, pretty sure when Kate chose to conspire with a pack of scurrilous thugs, she wasn't walking past anything. She chose to lie down with dogs because she's an ugly, spiteful person. There was nothing illegal done to her. If there was, Steve would have handled it. After all, that's his chosen profession.
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Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack • 2m
@JamesMi09835625 Ha....Kate's not into fame...she justneeds 2pay her bils & support these kids ...not my business how she does it.
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Ooooooo wrong again, darn. Supporting her kids is different than supporting the rock star lifestyle she created for herself. I'm all for her supporting her own kids. But she doesn't get to stomp her feet and demand to work in the entertainment business because of the "bills" she created. At what point does she stop demanding someone or something take responsibility for HER choices, all of them? It's been 10 years straight and she still hasn't shut up yet. And yes, she is into fame because she. will. not. go. away.
Nurses can work from home as well. Since Kate loves the computer, there should be NO PROBLEM with supporting 8 kids on a nurses salary.
I just read about a 7-year-old boy in Pennsyvania who was rescued from his mother and grandparents. He was beaten, starved, and only weighed 25 pounds when the police found him. A doctor said he was maybe a month away from a cardiac event that he would not have survived. The sheeple keep claiming that if the G8 had been abused, CPS would shave taken them away. More proof that CPS isn't infallible. Plenty of kids are abused to the point of near-death (or death) before anyone discovers them.
I know we've had many nursing discussion, but it's silly for Kate to let on nurses work 12 hour shifts 7 days a week! You usually work 2, get 3 off, work 3, get 2 off. There are so many daytime options- part-time, per diem, doctors' offices, school nurse, public health nurse, clinics, hospice care, support lines/home jobs as jennine said, many, many ways to make a good salary on your desired hours, with benefits and pension.
The kids really must wonder what Mommy does all day! Does she lie to them about it?
I wonder whose bright idea it was to take Jamie and her two kids, Kate and her eight, Ashley, Ratclaws, probably eight or nine (maybe more) crew members, a couple of drivers, throw them all together for two weeks and watch what happens. Surely they knew it would not end well. I hope they hid the knives.
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I think it was an absolute setup. TLC knew exactly how it would play out. I think they were looking for a reason where they would not look so bad for closing the show down. They showed her at her worst. Hummm, it also could have been her best. Wait, I'm confused. Naaahh, there is no best or worst when it comes to Kate. She is just Kate. A noun of her own making, if that's possible. Is she a person? Place? or a thing? lol. That goes for Milo also. Steve even said to ask him in six months if he would take that trip again.
I have to say, I was quite shocked when I saw Cara shove Jamie's boy's head and whined like a spoiled brat. This is what comes when you leave baby's to work out scuffles by themselves without teaching and giving them the tools The scary thing is you never know what "their normal" may become when they are adults. I'm not saying that I think ANY of the G8 will do this but, what happens when teenage or adult situations can't be solved the way they solved sibling rivalry? We have already seen what can and has happend to adults when they were in kindergarten. Look at how the girl tup's talk to her already. Can you imagine how it will be when the hormones start flowing?
One more thing I would like to say about the boys. I love that they take care of the chickens. I don't like that some of it is so hard but seeing the boys on the couch and the comradery between them. IT WAS NOT FAKE. So sweet. Little Collin didn't get angry about the teasing of the other two. I loved when he told them they were going off/over the edge and both cracked up so hard. I think that taking care of the chickens gives them a feeling of self worth. I'm speculating but I think they really love the chickens. I bet they could tell you the name and personality of every one of them. I also think it makes such a bonding time that will remain till the end of time. I would love to be a fly on the wall, not the tv lol, when they are adults and reminiscing about the times they had to take care of "all those chickens". The time the chickens did this or that. What a special conversation that will be.
I feel bad for the girls. They don't seem to be as close to each other as the boys do, except for M and C. I find it kind of odd that C loves sports so much. That lax is a violent game. I tend to believe, because of her loving sports, that her shyness is more about being in front of the cameras, not socializing with others. Total speculation on my though.
kiat, I know. And, why would she send it to @TLC? Did TLC just pay for a return plane ticket and she had to leave right after film circus cluster chaos, then come back on her own because ate said she just took Jamie to the airport on Friday?
Awwwwwwww.
Nurses can work from home as well. Since Kate loves the computer, there should be NO PROBLEM with supporting 8 kids on a nurses salary.
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Kate's not a nurse, oh maybe she was for awhile back before she hatched her 'marry money and birth multiples" plan, before TLC showed her the guiding light. Her nurse career is a ship that she put into the harbor and sailed away. 10 years later she is now woefully unskilled and similarly behind, even her getting her license renewed is years ago. Why we continue to discuss all the ways she could work as a nurse is beyond me. She certainly gives no indication her short career is anything she would resume. Don't see her ex working in IT either; people do move on into other pursuits, but most of them actually get jobs. TFW is still waiting for her close-up call. Another ship that may finally have sailed.
People Kate does not want to ruin her nails doing nursing of any kind. In her mind, it's a dirty tiredsome job, and you make no money and have shitty hours. We all know that is not true.
Formerly: you hit the nail on the head. Kate can work the same hours her kids are in school, and if she had been a lot nicer to Jon, even his family and her own family, she would not have to hire anyone to watch the kids, during the summer months, she would have had an army of relatives to watch kids. Kate claims to have barter ways, and gift of gab, she could have set something up, where the relative watching gets food, and maybe, lodging, some money in exchange for watching kids. But Kate got rid of anyone who did not want to do work at the house.
Kate said in an interview, when asked about what kind of guy she was looking for: Anyone who comes to my property gets work, so if you are helpful and willing to help. That seems to apply to everyone, maybe this is why Kate's family were kick out of the kids & Kates life, cause they refuse to be free hired help or refused to work at her house. That is what Kate means when she said: My family does not know how to help me. Bottom line, if don't work at Kate house & property you are worthless to Kate, and gotten rid of. This includes friends, Jamie proves herself, by working there, can't have a freeloading friend visit, got to put them to work. God forbid they come to visit.
@MiloandJack: More & more reports that #Aspartame is not good 4the brain! @Kateplusmy8 Another thing 4 a good Mom 2have 2watch out for! #HealthyEating :)
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And that sugarless gum that TFW constantly chomps on is probably full of #aspartame. What is your real message here Milo?
@Sarah_levy8
Just passed Jon Gosselin at the beach. With a girl and kids. He's always down here at Funland
Hmmmm....even though he had custody last weekend, I hope he had some of his kids too and not just Liz's.
Yes, I was so glad to see the boys laughing and joking amongst themselves, rather than that zombie look they wear around Kate. It is sad the tup girls are not close, except Leah and Hannah when it suits them, although they too spit and hit.. Alexis seems to really like animals and keep separate from her sisters. But every girl in that family was mouthy to Kate; not so the boys. Her preferential treatment of the female part of the household did not work out to her advantage and I agree with njay, it's just going to get worse. And Cara's temper is something to behold- Mady is just persistently mouthy and a lot like Mommy.I think they both have bad tempers .The way they all were raised- it all comes out now.
people do move on into other pursuits
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Yes but Kate never said she wanted to move on to other things. She said she can't be a nurse because she'd have to pay a babysitter. Her sheeple whine that she has to exploit her kids because she can't be a nurse.
My issue is she pretends she would like to resume this career BUT it just won't support eight kids. My issue is it's used as an excuse to work her children when it's been shown over and over how nursing could support a family even a large one.
At least Jon admits he finds office jobs boring and had wanted to move on and do something like work in a restaurant. Fine, whatever, at least you're honest about it. I would love to hear Kate say she finds nursing boring and would like to move on. I would respect her honesty for once.
I was just thinking I hope the kids do something fun and have a beach getaway this summer even a close by one. Glad to see Jon is into things like that and I hope at least some or all are with him.
From what I saw on the special clips, the tup girls stick together- thick as thieves.
They are openly hostile to the boys.
When one boy pointed his finger in Mady's face after she lost gagaball, and two girls starting shoving and hitting him.
I can only imagine what a nightmare is was trying to discipline the two who got kicked out of school.
Vanessa Mcguire @vanessamcguire5 · 97h
@Kateplusmy8 you need to do a coupon blog again..would love to read your finds
I guess this one doesn't know about Coupons by Kate. Oh wait, she isn't blogging there like she promised to. Another endeavor put up on the shelf, never to be thought of again.
Then she said it all! This is my FIRST EMMY Red Carpet. I have never recalled anybody saying anything like that ever. Like they are going to love her so much, that offers and deals will pour out of the sky like Manna for Momma! The piecing and patching Momma of Eight. Oh, I forgot what eight?
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Kate went the following year, too.
Any excuse to leave and she took it.
What did she spend in Las Vegas? 9 days?
9 days away for a 5 hour race.
Oh- I was looking up the tuition of LCDS and I found it listed at 4K each? Can that be right? That means Kate has 64 more school years left to pay in total for all the kids. $256K??? Plus fees and uniforms? WOW.
Tucker: Agree, the girl tups stick together against the boys, against the twins, against Kate. but they are not close- it's just to get another child in trouble and they are way more physical than the boys. In the basement they were really roughhousing more than the boys. Punching, shoving, tattling. But were there any moments of fondness among the girls? I didn't really spot any .They were also happy to choose Aadan's glasses for him- why would Kate give them this decision to make? He looked a little bewildered by all the thumbs down.
My issue is she pretends she would like to resume this career BUT it just won't support eight kids. My issue is it's used as an excuse to work her children when it's been shown over and over how nursing could support a family even a large one.
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It's so damn insulting, too.
Kate just lies like a rug and thinks she can get away with selling horse shit.
Same with the boobs.
She can have her boobs and never be a nurse again- I don't care.
But, Kate's lies are just so over the top that it's pathological.
The tuition at their school starts around $4,000. I thought I read in RH's book that their tuition had been lowered to $1,500 per child? Not sure if that was when the twins went or for all the children and I don't have access to the book at the moment to check.
Students per teacher: Elementary: 15, Secondary: 12
Tuition: $3,760-$22,050
% Receiving financial aid: 30%
Thanks, Gayle, I hadn't read that.(I had the first Kindle book but it has disappeared...am waiting for the paperback- over 500 pages!)
Sue said...143
A young man named Charlie in Detroit was forced twice a day to do exercises, and they were many. His step mother threatened him telling him she knew where the knives were. And she threatened to blanking kill him.
Workout 2 times a day:
100 push ups
200 sit ups
100 jumping jacks
25lb. weight curl on arms
5,000 rounds on the elliptical machine
Well, he came up missing. His dad went around putting up missing fliers, trying to find him. He seemed sincere. But click on the link in the article to see his reaction to Nancy Grace when she told him that she just got the news that his son was found alive in the basement. He DID NOT do the He's Alive??? Jump up and scream? Thanking the Lord? I want to see him!!
If that would of been me?? I would of did all that and running to catch a cab to get to my son!
Here is the link to the story:
http://www.people.com/article/charlie-bothuell-boy-missing-basement-abused-by-parents
Personally, it doesn't matter what the tuition at their school.is.
They EARNED it.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 2m
@JamesMi09835625 Ha....Kate's not into fame...she justneeds 2pay her bils & support these kids ...not my business how she does it.
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AuntieAnn said...(71)
Kate Plus 8: 'My Family Can't Be Canceled'
By KATE COYNE
For starters, don't expect her to fade into off-camera obscurity. "I want to stay in TV because I feel comfortable there; it's an exciting life," she says. Her children are another matter. "Give the kids a break, that's fine," she says. "Check back in with us when they're teenagers. I'd really love to find a place of my own on a talk show or something like that." Whatever shape her next job takes, Kate remains certain of one thing. "I'll be back," she says. "This is too much fun not to find a way back."
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You were saying Milo? Kate's not into fame? It's right there, from the horse's mouth.
Kate's having too much fun in the spotlight to not find a way back into it even if it means exploiting her children to get there.
For their sake, of course. *HUGE EYE ROLL*
I read the article about the 7 year old little boy who weighed 25 pounds barely alive. It made me sick. My 14 month old grandson weighs at least 30 pounds. He is not fat, just a strong stout boy. I think my son told me about 2 months ago that he weighed 27 lbs.
I hope the parents never make bail and if there are any siblings they take them all away. They don't deserve to have, take care of, or even look at a child.
Kate is a twit said... 157
Vanessa Mcguire @vanessamcguire5 · 97h
@Kateplusmy8 you need to do a coupon blog again..would love to read your finds
I guess this one doesn't know about Coupons by Kate. Oh wait, she isn't blogging there like she promised to. Another endeavor put up on the shelf, never to be thought of again.
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Good point!
Ah, sheeple, Kate has a coupon SITE which she never, ever, ever updated.
Not once.
Nada.
Nyet.
Zip, zero and zilch.
That said, let me give you the highlights- instead of joining your reasonably priced community pool, build an in ground pool.
A big one, preferably.
Have 3 cars so like Goldie Locks, you can choose just the right one for the task at hand.
Hmm...what else? Oh, I've got one more- wash your kids sheets only once a month and don't was their clothes unless they are visibly soiled.
Hope this helps!!!!!!!!
Well, on the other hand, it matters in that their money might all blown on this school which I'm sure is wonderful but is it necessary? I hope they do get the discount Gayle mentioned.
I think she says she can't be a nurse in response to being asked about it; she does not initiate conversations about nursing. She has, however, made many comments about her dream jobs in media. Nursing is a dead horse and yes, she doesn't admit it probably because she likes the idea that she has a career. Nursing is just one of the many things she is coy about. Not quite a lie, not quite the truth - the Kate Gosselin smoke screen approach to life.
Regardless who brings it up, when someone asks about nursing it would be simple enough for Kate to say something canned like, Nursing was a good career choice for me at the time and I'm very grateful. However I have long moved on from that part of my life and my focus now is on a career in the media. No, I do not wish to go back to nursing and have no plans to do so. It is not because it would not be a career that is respectable and could amply support my family. It is because I desire a career in the media instead. But I have all the respect in the world to those who choose this career.
She would earn so much more respect.
Reading Kate's designs on a media career is just funny, and sad.
She really thought she could carry her own show, or surely, she'd secure a spot on a talk show.
I remember when she was on Bethenny, and she said something like "I'm so proud of you", whispered in her ear.
As if to say "hey reality tv show comrad, good for you" as if they're in the same club.
Bethenny shot her a nasty look, like "wtf? Do I look like I need your approval?".
Gosh, just look at the ladies of The Talk- Kate is despised.
This goes way beyond people loving to hate her.
That strategy was ill-conceived and not a good long term plan.
I would argue that after the years they have spent there, the kids' school.is necessary. The only things we know about it is what Kate puts out there or people research.
No pap pics even at the height of their fame, etc.
On the other hand, 3 vehicles for one person? God only knows how much on plastic surgery.......I could go on and on.
The least she can do is spend the money they earned on THEIR education.
College be damned. If any of them want to go, there are ways to finance it even if their college funds aren't adequate, which they just might be.
She would earn so much more respect. 171
There is NOTHING she can do to earn my respect.
To clarify 173. No pap pics at school.
We've all heard about students who are working their way through college. But come on, the Gosselin children have been working their way through elementary school.
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The tuition at their school starts around $4,000. I thought I read in RH's book that their tuition had been lowered to $1,500 per child?
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It was for the twins (first grade) and the tuition wasn't lowered because of who they were and because they have eight children. They applied for, and received financial aid. That was only for the twins in first grade.
Just one more thing. Does anyone think that any money Kate saved on tuition wouldn't be spent on Kate?
Oh- I was looking up the tuition of LCDS and I found it listed at 4K each? Can that be right? That means Kate has 64 more school years left to pay in total for all the kids. $256K??? Plus fees and uniforms? WOW.
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No, that is not correct. The low tuition is for the lower grades only, with an increase per grade level. By the time the little ones get to the upper grades, the cost would be around $150,000 per year total for all six., and that's excluding the cost for the twins.
"I want to stay in TV because I feel comfortable there; it's an exciting life," she says.
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Yeah, comfortable when Steve is within three feet, mouthing the script to her. Comfortable when she's being interviewed by some suck-up asking all the right questions they've been given. Comfortable when she's squawking like a chicken hawk at her kids to do their chores. But by golly don't sit her across from anyone who dares to ask her the hardball questions. The pumping leg stops and she powers up the dart gun in her eyeballs.
I don't know where she gets off thinking just because she likes the shiney stuff she gets from being in the media, that makes her a good fit. She's anything but. She's proved time and again there is no place for her on tv. She doesn't fit in anywhere.
Unless I see her standing in front of Judge Judy someday, I 'honestly' cannot think of one thing she could do anymore that would make it worthwhile watching. Her 15 minutes were up long ago.
She would earn so much more respect. 171
Well of course, but nursing is just one of many topics she does not address, but rather talks around. Maybe in her mind she really does think she would go back to nursing if the the conditions were right, as in she chooses her hours and commands a huge salary, plus no one is allowed to talk to her :-). The reality is she stonewalls most everything presented to her.
What in the world is wrong with these crazy sheeple? They are now tweeting Gloria Allred. They're nuts...no doubt about it. Who came up with this idea? The one missing her D? Good lord.
Rhymes with Witch said... 175
To clarify 173. No pap pics at school.
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No. not allowed on school property.
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You're right, that school is very expensive. I remember from the book that M&C's tuition for1st grade was $13,500 (and that was in 2006 I think--tuitions have gone up) each and they got $12,000 each in financial aid. That was before the show, or maybe right when it started, so their income was very low, which justified the aid. There are also fees, uniforms, plus payment for bus service. That can be expensive, too. I pay $800 per child, per school year, for bus service, and we are much closer to their schools so it's a shorter route than the Gs have. I know our schools charge more for students outside the county.
Of course, Kate will cry poor and try to get financial aid no matter how much she makes. She just can't help herself.
Here's a question....do parents receiving financial aid for LCD private school have to declare that aid as income? (which in a sense, it is)
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TFW does not want to go back to nursing, she doesn't want to work at all. Remember when she said she would do anything to support her children, including working at McDonalds? I know nursing would pay better because my daughter is a nurse. However, Kate never did either.
Regardless of what she says, she doesn't want to work. She wants a job the media because SHE thinks it would be easy money with very little work on her part. She is under the impression that she could bully people like she did when she was with TLC.
She is a talentless hack who would rather sit on her lazy butt and run through the money that the kids earned, instead of actually going out and getting a job to support the kids that she claims she would do anything for.
There is a financial aid page for the kids' school. The lower school tuition is listed as $14,000 and upper school tuition is listed as $18,000. I don't know if M&C are in upper school yet, but that school is a huge expense.
Anyone know what financial standards need to be met at LDS? Federal Aid for college (FAFSA) is pretty thorough...they want to know #'s on your tax return, if your kids filed, if you own property, if someone else is paying for part of college, if there is money set aside for college, etc...
I realize that the G kids' private school may (or may not) have rigorous requirements to determine who deserves aid and who doesn;t, but if these kids are receiving aid Ate should be ashamed of herself. (I'd have a hard time rubber stamping Ate's financial aid sheet after watching her drive up in her 3rd car, an Audi).
LOL
JCB
Layla...high school tuition for all eight, if the tuition increase continues at its current rate, will be (ballpark) $800,000, and that's just upper school.
Kids don't wear uniforms in high school, so there's a break there.
Regardless of what she says, she doesn't want to work. She wants a job the media because SHE thinks it would be easy money with very little work on her part. She is under the impression that she could bully people like she did when she was with TLC.
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Kate loves the lifestyle and thinks that she should get paid for yammering on about herself.
She would never deign to get a normal job, and have to drive in rush hour traffic and brown bag her lunches.
She's all about limos, town cars and fish in paper.
Kate's very used to calling up Ann Taylor and telling them that she can get a pap to photograph her with their bags in her hand, if she can fill them up for free.
It's always rather sickening to see her fill huge shopping carts for free when she's filming.
Regardless of what she says, she doesn't want to work. She wants a job the media because SHE thinks it would be easy money with very little work on her part.
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Exactly.
And she's way off base which is why she'll never get over this hump she's stuck behind.
She thinks it's easy street money. And it was. When she hit it big and didn't have to do anything but be herself. But those days are over, that was a one trick pony, and she's got to come up with something else if she wants to keep on going.
It's not the most difficult job out there but unless you're well established most successful people in the business work very hard for what they have and to get there and STAY there . They don't just read a script. They live the script. They don't just scout a few locations. They live, breathe and experience a hundred locations for many weeks. They don't just watch one audition tape, they watch fifty. They don't do two drafts of their screen play they do two dozen. While all this is going on they're constantly thinking of the next big idea and next project and constantly keeping in touch with their rolodex. I wouldn't say this is exactly "hard" but it is a LOT of work and those that are not willing to do it, as she sure isn't, are rarely going to find a spot for themselves in this competitive industry.
Lanc Native,
I noticed that--Gloria Allred? They are so desperate for someone to put a stop to the book! They really didn't think it would be re-released, which allowed them to make up wild stories like the one about RH having to pay Kate a settlement and agree to never re-release. Then came word that the book was coming back out, and they predicted that would never happen. But it did! They couldn't stop it, Kate couldn't stop it, and it shot their story about a settlement all to hell. The book came out, people bought it, people are talking about it--and now they find that it's coming out in print form. Oh, no!! Whatever is a sheeple to do??? They are searching for someone to help. Go for it, sheeple. More publicity for the book!
@AmyTyler2014
@MY_2BCOLLIES @neverletyoupart @Kateplusmy8 I'm curious how many issues @GloriaAllred can find within his book?
@MY_2BCOLLIES
@AmyTyler2014 @neverletyoupart @Kateplusmy8 @GloriaAllred It's nothing for Ms. Alfred to even get involved since it's clearly libel for $$$
@AmyTyler2014
@MY_2BCOLLIES @neverletyoupart @Kateplusmy8 @GloriaAllred no, I'm curious to find out if the other ppl he wrote about had rights violated?
@MY_2BCOLLIES
@AmyTyler2014 @neverletyoupart @Kateplusmy8 @GloriaAllred I'm pretty sure that is the case. It's a clear case of stalking plain and simple.
LOL, Gloria Allred take a case TFW previously dropped after Jon & Robert's representation by Tuma and Garbus? Dang, these fans who come to the party so late and who don't put in the work to get up to speed. SMH
And then there are the sheeple who've been here since the beginning... lol
@AmyTyler2014
@neverletyoupart Maybe he's behind those accts? I made 1 comment & I was being called names by #Bullies I'm send each convo to @Support
Bwahahaha You betcha, support will jump right on those pretty tame back and forth convos. Uh, huh, fer sure.
The school might be expensive, but the children earned that money and it should be spent on them. IMO, the school is the one and only constant in their life and that is the last thing that should be taken away.
If Kate should need to cut expenses, there are many ways she could do so, but I agree with Rhymes. School should not be one of those.
The sheeple want Gloria Alred to intervene on Kate's behalf?
Do they not realize that she was involved in PA's "Gosselin Law"?
Well, I agree the school is good for the kids, but my concern was, isn't it very expensive, and since college funds aren't used for tuition etc it may just take their last dime. Mady said she didn't really like school, although Cara does. I think they are entering 8th so that's middle school? There are plenty of ways Kate could cut costs; I really think she likes that school for prestige.Don't know how the kids feel- I heard there was some anti- Gosselin LCDS Facebook. It may be quite hard on them, who knows.
As opposed to the negative connotations associated with “downsizing,” to rightsize is to make the necessary changes in order to become efficient and effective.
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Whether you call it downsizing or right sizing, or being frugal, or "making do", it's something many of us have had to do at times (or continue to do), to get by. I don't feel the need to find a more attractive term for what's happening.
I used to earn more money. Then I had an accident and now I can't work full time. So I figured out how to make my lesser income still cover our bills. I was efficient and effective when I worked full time. Now we make do with less. That's all. No pretty term needed.
Only a handful of foolish people actually believe Kate's claim that she could not work as a nurse and support her children. Most of us probably know a nurse or two, and we've seen them work full time and yet manage to be a parent to their children and a loving spouse to their partner.
However, I would hate to see Kate return to nursing. Think of all the patients who would suffer under her "care."
She never liked nursing work to begin with, and it was simply a means to an end. I doubt she could hold a real job at this point anyway - she cannot deal with people. Period. She would have a melt down in about half an hour - similar to what we saw in Alaska. That's why her Twist of Kate show never made it past the initial filming. She's incapable of holding down a job that demands anything of her besides looking into a camera and talking about herself while waving her french tip nails around in the air. She cannot do anything!
So eventually, she'll end up with all her kids grown and estranged from her, out of money, wondering why Steve Nield left with her last dollar, and one or more of those poor kids will probably be guilted into taking care of their horrible excuse of a mother. She'll lose her fragile grip on reality and probably be a fall down drunk.
I heard there was some anti- Gosselin LCDS Facebook. It may be quite hard on them, who knows.
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I've never heard about this.
Is this for real?
LOL, Gloria Allred take a case TFW previously dropped after Jon & Robert's representation by Tuma and Garbus? Dang, these fans who come to the party so late and who don't put in the work to get up to speed. SMH
And then there are the sheeple who've been here since the beginning... lol
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Why would Gloria take a case (what case...stalking?). They're bosom buddies with BV, and surely he could put them into touch with one of his excellent attorneys who could intervene on Kates behalf! If they want to get Gloria involved, are the sheeple going to all throw in the money to pay her...no doubt from the money they get from their class action lawsuit!
"Do they not realize that she was involved in PA's "Gosselin Law"?"
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Obviously not!
Are these sheeple for real? Are they employed? Can they function in society? I guess I just don't understand how anyone could be so dumb and still manage out in the real world.
Mady has a facebook page. I wonder if it is real and if Kate knows about it. So much for her kids not being on social media.
I don't believe this is the kind of case that would interest someone like Gloria Alred.
Well, I agree the school is good for the kids, but my concern was, isn't it very expensive, and since college funds aren't used for tuition etc it may just take their last dime.
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I don't believe for one minute that if Kate was even close to being out of money, she would send those kids to such an expensive school. It's hers all hers dontcha know. I believe she would place them in public school in a second without looking back. NO ONE'S going to take away her style of living. I also believe that when she can no longer control them with her fear she will then remember that Jon didn't die. Let him have all the problems, after all, it's because of him they are anything but perfect. Wait until the paps start to post "gossip" about their outlandish behavior and blemish her perfect reputation. (sarcasm of course for now)
It makes me sad to know that their "normal" is so far from being normal. Even if Jon got them today, they are still a mess and don't even know it. They have seen all their lives that being nasty, mean and demanding gets you what you want. The one thing I am proud of is when Mady was asked if everything said about them was wrong, she didn't just lie and make everyone think it was. She said that it wasn't necessarily wrong, just not everything was known. It gives me a smidgen of hope that the truth is still important to them when lying was the greater example in their life.
I don't believe for one minute that if Kate was even close to being out of money, she would send those kids to such an expensive school. It's hers all hers dontcha know. I believe she would place them in public school in a second without looking back.
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She wouldn't use her money if her well was running dry, but if she's using her kids' money to pay for their education (and anything else she could get away with), I think that she would do it.
I agree that the boys are benefiting from working with the chickens. Their work is not too hard for them. Kids CAN do hard things.
I was interested that when the boys were on the couch talking, they were having fun with each other. What really surprised me was that Collin and Joel were talking about things they had done in the past, and Aaden was saying he didn't remember doing the different things the other boys were saying. What? Wouldn't he know about those past "wonderful" times of making memories if they did watch the CDs of their show?
Mady has a facebook page. I wonder if it is real and if Kate knows about it. So much for her kids not being on social media.
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There have been multiple FB pages and Twitter accounts in the kids' names. None of them is legit.
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 2m
A lovely summer Sunday here w a perfect family dinner:marinated salmon, sautéed snow peas and delicious baked sweet potatoes! #LifeIsGr8
What? Nothing HOMEMADE? Oh, the humanity!
The one thing I am proud of is when Mady was asked if everything said about them was wrong, she didn't just lie and make everyone think it was. She said that it wasn't necessarily wrong, just not everything was known. It gives me a smidgen of hope that the truth is still important to them when lying was the greater example in their life.
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I had a whole different take on that (canned and rehearsed) answer.
When I saw Kate's lips mouthing what Mady was saying, I knew that question was a set up, teed up perfectly by Savannah for Mady to "set the record straight".
I see nothing on its face "loser" about a parent who is a host (not a waiter, but that's fine too) or a parent who is in the entertainment industry. As long as they work hard at what they do, any child should be proud of such a parent. That's really not the issue for me. What is "loser" about it is if you're going to sell your children's privacy too or refuse to leave an industry with dignity when your ship has obviously sailed.
Oh, geez -- another helpless soul!
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Lisa Michelle @ccjockeymom 15m
@Kateplusmy8 did you make the marinade or store bought, or a chef? I never know what marinade to use on salmon #needachef
Is Kate being punked...or is this a sheeple who is really late to the party?
Erin @erinheartscoco 16m
@Kateplusmy8 Please come out with a cookbook! All your food always looks delicious!
Oh, imagine the backlash IF the G8 switched schools where confidentially agreements would be a nightmare and classmates would
have something to say about any whiff of celebrity entitlement. It would not be a successful learning environment for the Gosselins. Well, at least not readin', writin' 'n 'rithmatic.
Lisa Michelle @ccjockeymom 15m
@Kateplusmy8 did you make the marinade or store bought, or a chef?
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The correct answer is:
C. A chef
I'm behind as usual, but I haven't seen this mentioned yet.
I will never forget how a few years ago, Kate's reason for needing to film the kids was she would do anything to "pay her kid's bills."
That always struck me as an odd turn of phrase because since when do children have bills? The costs incurred with raising children are the PARENTS responsibility and part of being a parent. If she makes expensive choices FOR her children, such as a Mcmansion and private school, that is fine, but that is HER bill not her children's bill.
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