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In the second time this month a major media outlet has discussed the Gosselin twin's appearance last January on the Today show, Paul Petersen has spoken out to Yahoo T.V. The child advocate and former child star had this to say about the twins' "choking" on national T.V.:
""That was the most frightening example of the damage being done to these kids. They were incoherent. They couldn't say what they really felt. They'd been turned into these performing seals, and not for their own benefit. If they had at least been child actors, they would have a support group of similar kids. I think this is doing tremendous long-term damage — the kind of damage that you really don't see until 10 years later."
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Just last week, the hosts of The Talk, two of whom are former child stars, had similar criticism for the appearance. describing the twins as "shell-shocked" and "overwhelmed." Marie Osmond added, "As a parent, you need to look at your children's needs individually. I saw that Today show. Those girls didn't want to be on T.V. They shouldn't be on T.V. and that should be her responsibility as a mother."
Thank you Paul, Marie, Sara Gilbert and other former child stars who give these children a voice. You know better than anyone the dangers here. Of all people, Kate should listen to you.
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@deannatweeting Where oh where has Deanna Bell gone? Where O where can she be?
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I don't think someone like Milo understands at all that it's completely normal and appropriate for someone like Deanna to have times where she's quieter on social media. She actually works, which I guess she gets some credit for (it's more than can be said of Kate at least), and she's young and lives in a bustling city. Whatever she is up to I'm sure it's more productive than twitter. Don't make her feel guilty by whining for her to come back. Geez, how selfish.
That was my post above, carried over from the last thread - Deanna is not Milo's FRIEND. They do not know each other, so for her to pursue her, or the hairstylist, or any of few people K8 actually corresponds with is not only selfish, it's weird and creepy and inappropriate. It's gross! Can you imagine the eye-rolling that occurs when these people see those tweets?
I think it's clear this January appearance more than six months ago has firmly solidified itself as infamous enough to have a place in minor but notable T.V. history. It feels like whenever it's brought up everyone knows exactly what this was about. It's famous, notorious. I imagine we'll see it on T.V.'s most embarrassing or uncomfortable moments lists in years to come.
Good job Kate. You did this to your 13 year olds.
No offense to Mr. Patterson but anyone with a brain cab see that the G8 are being affected.
Examples.
1. CWS With Kendra,
2, C&M The Today Show,
3. Kate Trying her hardest to get the twins to turn on Jon during the today show,
4. KK suing Jon in a bs lawsuit.
5. Years of KK running Jon over with a bus.
6. RV Breakdown.
7. K+8 & Sarah Plain's Alaska Epi,
8. The Journals.
I think that appearance may have cost TFW the sextuplets birthday
cover of People in May. That seemed like an absolute no-brainer.
I wonder if Deanna moved away in the middle of the night? Gladys
seems to inspire that behavior in people...
Thanks to all who tried to help us follow the twitter meltdown this weekend. I'm not totally clear what she was saying but she was a big mess. I can't tell if her problem is alcohol, drugs, mental illness, or a combination. Whatever it is, it has gotten worse.
I think deep down she doesn't want to be alone. She is terrified of being alone. She is starting to realize how alone she really is. Her only way to get attention is this twitter mess. Sure she had 2 children at home. We say then spend time with them and enjoy them. I bet she waited too long and it's too late. Maybe even the golden child rejects her and won't snuggle and watch tv or whatever Kate likes to do. Kate doesn't have the love, warmth, or imagination to figure out how to engage the kids at this point.
It is sad to watch a breakdown.
The vast majority of the mentally ill maintain custody of their children. This is true even in more liberal states like CA. The law is very clear that you have a right to raise your child in a dysfunctional manner and around even DIAGNOSED mental illness. Only when it crosses the line to true physical or emotional abuse, a very high threshold, do courts intervene. Usually you have to see something truly demonic like extremely violent outbursts that severely hurt the kids or extreme neglect.
Just because you are bipolar, schizophrenic, have a personality disorder, are narcissistic or sociopathic in no way means you're going to lose your kids or even have court involvement. As a social worker who may be concerned, it is very, very difficult to write and push through a mental illness case and get the result you want. You'd be better off if you had a dirty meth test from nine months ago.
We always sort of say this is social engineering, of COURSE the children would be better off around mental stability. All children would. The law does not allow that though. We are not allowed to intervene just because they'd be better off by our standards.
Part of the issue with what Paul Peterson is saying is time. He was part of the early generation of child tv stars. They worked and then grew up. Some turned out well, some did not. Some learned to speak out about what happened and how they were treated. It takes years or even decades for many former stars to speak out about what heppened. (ex. sex abuse and the Corys) I don't even know if every state has laws about child tv actors, let alone laws for child reality stars. These children aren't old enough yet to tell their stories, to be mature and aware of how much they have been damaged. There are a few grown stars like Bobbi Brown but it will be 10-15 years before we have a large number of stories. I hope with more stories the public will believe that we have hurt these kids by not protecting them.
@PatriciaChow1: @MiloandJack @Kateplusmy8 Milo ! ask Kate if you can move in with her, than you will know everything !
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In the words of the great George Takei...Oh my!
Jeanne, spot on.
And this is the most frustrating thing. By the time the Gosselins or any child star are old enough to truly understand what's going on here and whether they want a part of it, the damage has been done. Which is why ADULTS must step in and cut this off at the knees.
It's irrelevant what a child's brain thinks of this now. It has nothing to do with how they may or may not feel when they are adults someday, which is why most kids should not be on T.V. in the first place and certainly not REALITY t.v.
Marie Osmond speaks so articulately now about her childhood and the dangers. Could she do that at 16 on stage when her family and the public was counting on her? Absolutely not she couldn't. She was just a child. It took her thirty years to get to this point.
The Gosselins will someday have adult brains, and view the show as we viewed the show, and the Today show and her tweets and you bet that most of them will see the things that so many other people saw including former child stars. You can bet some of them will share our feelings and concerns. They will also have questions about fame and finances, their father and TLC and Kate's role in what happened to him. But they're not emotionally there yet, not even close. I feel anxiety for them as they star to realize all of this, because there's just no telling where they're going to stand on it and as they begin to wrap their minds around it. It could be very upsetting to some of them, while others might feel okay about it. We just don't know.
I think the best insider's look at this process is Missy Francis's book. You really understand her development from an innocent child who kinda sort knew something was off but didn't think anything of it, to a teen who started to realize she didn't like what was happening to her and gradually stand up for herself, to a grown woman who got to a place where she knew she had to estrange her mother for the good of herself and her two precious children. This did not happen at 8, of course not. It took her decades.
Luke you were asking about our stats. They were easy to find on blogger. Thanks for mentioning it because I hadn't looked at them in ages and it was fun to see where we are at:
975 posts
283,550 comments
14,055,868 pageviews
14 million! Congrats.
reading the last few posts on last topic makes me think we should go back to blue...apparently some sheeple are again using regular names., JMO for one.
franky
It would be nice if the media had Robert and Mr. Patterson on Tv we need more people who are trying to help the 8 & other young kids.
Also maybe have a panel of people/experts who agree with Robert & Paul views that child exploitation is wrong. Also have them show that no good comes from it.
But then again if that happens KK might get her mug on tv crying and lying.-(Can't won for loosing I guess).
From the previous thread:
So are you saying the kids haven't been neglected or harmed by their mother?
No, not at all. I'm saying, that at this point in time, especially since we know that abuse was reported at least twice in 2010, I think it would be difficult for Jon to get the courts to order TFW to have a psych eval w/o new/recent abuse or neglect incident coming to light. People can have an untreated mental illness but until or unless it seriously affects the children the courts try keep their hands off.
IMO, Jon would be more successful pursuing the alienation issue which can occur independent of a psych illness. I think getting the court to order a mental eval would be a big hurdle and one that might never be accomplished w/o a more serious issue occurring first.
As Admin said in #7 above, "The law is very clear that you have a right to raise your child in a dysfunctional manner and around even DIAGNOSED mental illness. Only when it crosses the line to true physical or emotional abuse, a very high threshold, do courts intervene."
I don't really care who said it but yes please! Let's stop putting labels and other such things on 10 yr. old children! That is how vicious rumours are started! There's nothing wrong with those lovely kids. They're smarter than their mother is and they're only 10.
Bitchy pants-regarding your post number 138 on the last thread. I did not write anything about the kids and psych diagnoses. Please see my post number 136. (It was late and I mistakenly wrote 129 not 130 ...again-I did NOT write anything about that subject nor would I)
I don't know why that post is there. I did not write it. :/
Here is a guide to a fee acronyms used for those new to the blog.
Kate Gosselin = KK = Katie Kreider her maiden name = Katie Irene Kreider = TFMJG the former Mrs Jon Gosselin = TFW the former wife = TCFW the crazy former wife = WOS waste of space (what TFMJG called the Grand Canyon, we recycle!) = the warden = Schmoopy (its a Seinfeld reference that is just funny)
The McMansion = the orphanage (from so many times TFMJG was not home) = Little Shawshank (prison name in movie Shawshank Redemption)
Let's not leave out security expert Steve Nield = the Booby Guard = Purse Boy = Rat Claws.
That is a start, please add any of your favorite acronyms that I left out, there arr so many good ones!
The Gosselins will someday have adult brains, and view the show as we viewed the show, and the Today show and her tweets and you bet that most of them will see the things that so many other people saw including former child stars
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They have a unique set of circumstances. They will have a story that no other grown up child victim will have had. We all have our childhood abuse stories, our own experiences with a narcissist. Add the Truman show aspect to it? The scope of the "secrets" they've had to keep? We just had neighbors, schools, friends to worry about "finding out"...when you're whole existence was a lie in order to keep your mother in the lifestyle she felt was her God given right? Only time will tell just how bad their mental state will be as adults.
Whoops! Left out DWTS = Dancing With The Stars, TFMJG appearance on this show exposed a wide audience to her meanness, her impatience, her refusal to work hard, and her refusal to take any responsibility for her bad behavior by blaming her partner Tony for ” not knowing how to teach her”. This also earned Tony Dovolani the title of Saint Tony of the Ballroom, as he did remain TFMJG partner thruout the season and did not strangle her. Many of the longtime DWTS fans did start a Free Tony movement online to vote for someone, anyone other than TFMJG so Saint Tony would be free of her!
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#4 is something that I can not believe anyone couldn't point to as nothing short of torture for the children.
Kate couldn't even articulate the reasons Jon was being sued!
Children's "safety" and "future"?
WTF does that even mean?
I'm a pretty smart cookie, and I have no earthly idea as to the why Kate felt she had no other choice, but to sue the father of her 8 children.
What could she possibly have accomplished?
"See, kids, I did this all for you. Your dad really is a bad person and lucky for you, I sued him to protect you".
It was sick beyond belief, and I didn't see ONE tv person interview her and say, "really?"
Last week, I watched Matt Lauer interview Andrew Rector, the rather generously proportioned young man who fell asleep at a Yankees game, and was singled out on tv during the broadcast.
Mr. Rector decided that wasn't nice and he filed a $10M lawsuit.
Lauer grilled him on the lack of merit of his case, basically saying "really"???????
"Do you really think you'll win?" etc....
So, when 8 little children are involved when their father is being sued by their mother in a baseless lawsuit, no one challenged Kate as to the damage this would do (no could maybe do) to her children.
I don't think someone like Milo understands at all that it's completely normal and appropriate for someone like Deanna to have times where she's quieter on social media.
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Hopefully, Deanna realizes that it's not her place to insert herself into Kate's twitter wars, and that Kate's a big girl who should be taking care of herself, not relying on the largess of a friend to do her bidding.
Taking up arms for Kate was a fool's errand, if there ever was one.
Deanna, you were being a toadie.
Stop!! It's beneath you.
PJ's momma said... 2
That was my post above, carried over from the last thread - Deanna is not Milo's FRIEND. They do not know each other, so for her to pursue her, or the hairstylist, or any of few people K8 actually corresponds with is not only selfish, it's weird and creepy and inappropriate.
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Hopefully, Deanna is taking this as a learning moment.
Kate is not only polarizing, but she breeds toxicity.
Deanna should remain disengaged from those who tweet anything about Kate.
..when you're whole existence
**YOUR (blushing)
What's a parent of 8, count 'em 8 kids to do with these glorious days of summer, when the kids are home to love on and play with?
Twitter furiously and decry how much you need a break from your kids instead of actually, you know, playing with them?
Nah!!!
If you're Josh Malone, you invent on of the coolest things ever- a device that fills up 37 water balloons at on time!
Imagine the fun!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2705837/Let-battles-begin-Father-eight-invents-device-100-water-balloons-minute.html
*Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 3
I think it's clear this January appearance more than six months ago has firmly solidified itself as infamous enough to have a place in minor but notable T.V. history**Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 3
I think it's clear this January appearance more than six months ago has firmly solidified itself as infamous enough to have a place in minor but notable T.V. history"
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This video went viral, and not in a good way.
Kate's reaction, "oh, the girls just had stage fright" was right up there with her reaction to Bill Blankenship editing footage of her children, "never heard of him".
Tucker's Mom (#25), you silly goose, you clearly don't understand
the amount of energy and attention it takes to run a household
of 11 (including Shoka and Zorro). There is no fun on TFW's
to-do list! Any spare ounce of energy is put towards lovingly
"inventing" meals! Vegetable lasagna -- who'd ever come up
with that? Oh, yeah, everyone, for decades.
BTW - am I the only one who thought of "Seinfeld" when TFW
mentioned the veg lasagna? Elaine's seat mate on the airplane?
Lukebandit, are you out there?
LOL Flimsey! I thought of vegetable lasagna guy too.
Has anybody watched Leah Remini's new show on TLC? You can tell it is scripted, but there is no nastiness going on with any of the characters on the show. They seem to really love and respect each other and to me it is more of a sitcom than a reality show. The mother is quite funny and the little girl Sofia is very cute. Sofia does not have that many scenes which is good, but she is also very charming for a ten year old.
Amongst all the platitudes TFW has spouted over the years, was
there anything about listening to the advice of those who've gone
before you?
Paul Petersen is speaking from personal, relevant experience
about growing up in the public eye, and the unique issues that
go along with it. Wouldn't a GREAT mom like TFW give some credence to what he's saying, instead of mentally pushing
the "delete" button on him? Even if it's all for show, shouldn't
she at least take his thoughts into consideration as someone
older and wiser, with more than half a century of experience in
the entertainment business?!
FlimsyFlamsy said... 28
Tucker's Mom (#25), you silly goose, you clearly don't understand
the amount of energy and attention it takes to run a household
of 11 (including Shoka and Zorro)
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What was I thinking?!
Tucker's Mom said... 21
chefsummer said... 4
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#4 is something that I can not believe anyone couldn't point to as nothing short of torture for the children.
Kate couldn't even articulate the reasons Jon was being sued!
Children's "safety" and "future"?
WTF does that even mean?
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OMG yes Tuck.
She was suing for the kids safely from whom?-(Jon Robert haters?)-But that's the reason why she hired rat claws to protect the 8 right?
Also who was watching the kids while she was away on her suing tour?--Jon-(I doubt if but wouldn't put it past her)
-A nanny aka baby sitter?-(Who she claims she doesn't have.
-Steve-(Nah he was w/her)
-Or did she leave the 8 to fend for themselves while the twins watch the little six?
Secondly if she sued for the kids safely them why drop the lawsuit does the kids safely not matter anymore?
And now she got the lame excuse of she needs to feed the kids? But she just did two TLC specials and CA, Which I'm sure she didn't do for free lol.
KK has serious problems I feel for the kids and Jon.
If you're Josh Malone, you invent on of the coolest things ever- a device that fills up 37 water balloons at on time!
Imagine the fun!
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But Kate invented "vege lasagna!"
You're all forgetting about the all important Katespeak. When she talked about the children's safety and future what she really meant was....
If I don't get a job in the media I'll be stuck at home with those 8 kids 24/7/365 and there will be hell to pay (for them if the breath too loudly or act like kids). If I don't get my mug out there people might forget about ME! I'm talented damnit and I deserve life on a golden, diamond encrusted platter because I've got 8 kids. MY future is at stake here because I'm a star! Damn those kids for growing up!
Like a DIY you asked me toward the end of the last thread what I thought throttle couple were doing the same( I am having trouble c n p ing today on here for some reason ). IMO they should not be filming those very young children. Period. It's the same thing as K. Their kids have no say so. Their adoption was filmed. As if it wasn't scary enough there's a huge camera following them around w lights and mics. It's not right. They can blab all they want about raising awareness about little people. But at what cost. It's invasive and weird. Then they had to go and do a made for TV vow renewal too ? Gross. My sister in law is funny. She was talking about them and how cute they are and how much she loves that little boy on there. I told her I thought they shouldn't be on tv and she said said "but then I wouldn't get to see that little cute boy (she said his name but I don't remember it). Lol. I just laughed at her and said but it's not your business haha. I though t how similar it was to the sheeple attitude.
@CJWhodunit: @SiobhanR111 @jid517 @Kateplusmy8 Somewhere I have saved screenshots of Jon on Twitter chiding his 'fans' & saying Kate is a good mother!😕
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Yes, Jon probably did say that because, unlike TFW, he isn't a parental alienator and he loves hid kids more than he hates TFW. Although he has had his moments of frustration with her and has voiced them in a public forum he normally doesn't take every opportunity to bash her. Jon closed down his twitter and TFW should follow suit but she won't because she needs both the fans and non fans to validate her existence. So yes CJ, Jon can act like an adult. I would love it if TFW would say, just once, "Jon is a good dad and our kids love him so please stop bashing him." Sadly she won't because she hates Jon more than she loves her kids.
If I don't get a job in the media I'll be stuck at home with those 8 kids 24/7/365 and there will be hell to pay (for them if the breath too loudly or act like kids). If I don't get my mug out there people might forget about ME! I'm talented damnit and I deserve life on a golden, diamond encrusted platter because I've got 8 kids. MY future is at stake here because I'm a star! Damn those kids for growing up!
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Plus it's all Jon's fault he made me does this.
Yes, Jon probably did say that because, unlike TFW, he isn't a parental alienator and he loves hid kids more than he hates TFW.
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And this is what they don't get. There was a time when Jon made a real effort to be supportive of their relationship no matter what his ongoing issues with Kate are. His children love their mother, there is no doubt about that, and unlike Kate, he understands that it is not his place to come between that no matter what he thinks of her. Rather, he is to support that relationship.
With the exception of a few moments of frustration like when he was gone for a long time and she wouldn't let him speak to his children, we know he's said nice things about Kate, no screen capture required. Or more commonly, he says nothing at all. Good. This is how normal people who are not obsessed alienators behave. Shows he's a bigger person than she is.
Tucker's Mom said... 21
chefsummer said... 4
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#4 is something that I can not believe anyone couldn't point to as nothing short of torture for the children.
Kate couldn't even articulate the reasons Jon was being sued!
Children's "safety" and "future"?
WTF does that even mean?
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The lawsuit? Simply put, Kate is not done punishing Jon yet. The parental alienation just wasn't enough, she had to make sure she could hit him financially, as she PERCEIVES she is being hit by the actions she IMAGINES he's taken (and of which there is, unfortunately for her, no objective, conclusive evidence). IMO, she'll never be done punishing him. It is not "r bond" that gets her through each day, it is her single-minded drive to exact revenge and impose punishment on the guy who broke her golden platter. The children's "safety and future"? Words. She had to say something.
Also unlike Kate-(via twitter)-Jon also asked his fans not to talk about him self and the kids lives or ask him any question about the kids.
Jon rarely put what the kids were doing on his twitter unlike Kate does/do/did Jon is so different that Kate when it comes to parenting the kids.
NJGal51 said... 37
@CJWhodunit: @SiobhanR111 @jid517 @Kateplusmy8 Somewhere I have saved screenshots of Jon on Twitter chiding his 'fans' & saying Kate is a good mother!��
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Yes, Jon probably did say that because, unlike TFW, he isn't a parental alienator and he loves hid kids more than he hates TFW. Although he has had his moments of frustration with her and has voiced them in a public forum he normally doesn't take every opportunity to bash her. Jon closed down his twitter and TFW should follow suit but she won't because she needs both the fans and non fans to validate her existence. So yes CJ, Jon can act like an adult. I would love it if TFW would say, just once, "Jon is a good dad and our kids love him so please stop bashing him." Sadly she won't because she hates Jon more than she loves her kids.
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I'll call the detective's screenshots and raise her a People article. Jon said several nice things about Kate when interviewed for People.
There are numerous instances over the last 5 years where Jon showed who the bigger adult was and spoke well of Kate publicly. Or, just said nothing. Kate, during the same amount of time, had done nothing but publicly smear and trash him, although she hasn't done it directly in some time. In an attempt to recapture 2009, Kate kept attacking him in order to drum up press. I don't blame him one bit for giving up and declaring that she is an asshole. The sheeple were horrified! How dare Jon speak ill of the mother of his children! But sheeple, Kate has trashed him non stop since the separation, why is that different? Sheeple- because it just is.
as she PERCEIVES she is being hit by the actions she IMAGINES he's taken (and of which there is, unfortunately for her, no objective, conclusive evidence)
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And this is classic parental alienation. They always perceive that something dark and terrible is going on, perpetrated by the other parent. Everything is a conspiracy theory that traces back to the person they seek to alienate. When really, all most normal people see is someone going to work, having fun on the weekends at the beach, taking care of their children, and minding their own business. Even throwing in a few nice comments about the other parent now and again to try to defuse things.
Sad but True
I agree. She's making shit up in her head. If you cross a narcissist in ANY way, you will pay, and keep on paying. She has to justify her actions and as usual, she's vague and nonsensical. She knows she'll sound like a raving lunatic (more so than she already does) if she spills the REAL motivation and who knows what she's concocted in that bleached head of hers. Just like she believes God SPEAKS to her, she's getting intel from some "source" (whether it be divine or her changing what she's been told to suit her needs) and it's festering in her head, like a disease. Sociopath indeed
@Shortnsaszy: @CJWhodunit @MY_2BCOLLIES @SandieBellz @Kateplusmy8 We used to get spanked in school with wooden paddles with holes in them from a man teach
@CJWhodunit: @Shortnsaszy @MY_2BCOLLIES @SandieBellz @Kateplusmy8 Paddling was allowed when I was teaching(by the vice-principal)!#BestBehavedKidsAfter
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It may have been allowed but that doesn't make it right.
Paddling was allowed when I was teaching(by the vice-principal)!#BestBehavedKidsAfter
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I bet they were. Out of fear. But when the paddle goes away what have they learned other than that violence is a great way to get what you want?
It's amazing in 2014 there are still people who think physical abuse is the best way to get good behavior out of children.
@Shortnsaszy: @CJWhodunit @MY_2BCOLLIES @SandieBellz @Kateplusmy8 We used to get spanked in school with wooden paddles with holes in them from a man teach
@CJWhodunit: @Shortnsaszy @MY_2BCOLLIES @SandieBellz @Kateplusmy8 Paddling was allowed when I was teaching(by the vice-principal)!#BestBehavedKidsAfter
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30 states have outlawed corporal punishment in school, including Pennsylvania.
^^^^^Those are the same sheeple who went insane over a photoshopped picture of a little girl flipping the bird. They were obsessed with finding out who little photoshopped girl was and they were very concerned for her welfare, they felt she was being emotionally abused. They were drooling to call CPS on the person who posted the picture. However, going by today's meeting of the small sheeple minds.... if little photoshopped girl was told by her vice principal to bend over and grab her ankles so she can receive 3 or 4 whacks with a big wooden paddle w/holes in it, they would fully approve.
Seriously, who are these sheeple and how old are they?? The tweet below is disturbing. She thinks it was ok to paddle her students? Very happy that she is not teaching any more. Wonder how she would feel if her kids got paddled in school?
CJWhodunit @CJWhodunit 1h
@Shortnsaszy @MY_2BCOLLIES @SandieBellz @Kateplusmy8 Paddling was allowed when I was teaching(by the vice-principal)!#BestBehavedKidsAfter
Seriously, who are these sheeple and how old are they?? The tweet below is disturbing. She thinks it was ok to paddle her students? Very happy that she is not teaching any more. Wonder how she would feel if her kids got paddled in school?
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There's a question if she ever really taught at all. If any teacher paddled my child there would be hell to pay.
If you're Josh Malone, you invent on of the coolest things ever- a device that fills up 37 water balloons at on time!
Imagine the fun!
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But Kate invented "vege lasagna!"
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Dr. Evil's Dad invented the question mark.
@Shortnsaszy: @CJWhodunit @MY_2BCOLLIES @SandieBellz @Kateplusmy8 We used to get spanked in school with wooden paddles with holes in them from a man teach
@CJWhodunit: @Shortnsaszy @MY_2BCOLLIES @SandieBellz @Kateplusmy8 Paddling was allowed when I was teaching(by the vice-principal)!#BestBehavedKidsAfter
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This kind of lame defense infuriates me. If it was such a good and noble practice, why isn't it being done anymore?
So, they've gone from "It's LIES, ALL LIES I TELLS YA! KATE'S AN AWESOME MOM" to "Well, I was spanked and I turned out okay."
You idiots can't have it both ways. You can't come out swinging one day saying that Mr. Hoffman is a lying stalker and then the next defend physical abuse.
You look like freakin' morons, you know that, right?
Furthermore, we're not talking about being paddled in school. That has absolutely nothing to do with the accusations of child and animal abuse against Kate. She isn't some public school administrator, she's their mother, for F*&K's sake.
Arrrrrrgggggggh!
Sad but true said... 42
Tucker's Mom said... 21
chefsummer said... 4
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#4 is something that I can not believe anyone couldn't point to as nothing short of torture for the children.
Kate couldn't even articulate the reasons Jon was being sued!
Children's "safety" and "future"?
WTF does that even mean?
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The lawsuit? Simply put, Kate is not done punishing Jon yet
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Great post!
I actually laughed out loud that Kate's mouthpiece told radar that *he* has to move on because the divorce was 5-years ago.
According to the BV Files website, there's a court hearing today. Follow it on Twitter at bvfiles2014
NJGal51 said... 47
@Shortnsaszy: @CJWhodunit @MY_2BCOLLIES @SandieBellz @Kateplusmy8 We used to get spanked in school with wooden paddles with holes in them from a man teach
@CJWhodunit: @Shortnsaszy @MY_2BCOLLIES @SandieBellz @Kateplusmy8 Paddling was allowed when I was teaching(by the vice-principal)!#BestBehavedKidsAfter
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It may have been allowed but that doesn't make it right.
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Blacks were held as slaves and women couldn't vote- what's their point?
Here's mine: society has and is still evolving to recognize children as full fledged human beings with all of the natural and legal rights that humans are availed.
Blacks were held as slaves and women couldn't vote- what's their point?
Here's mine: society has and is still evolving to recognize children as full fledged human beings with all of the natural and legal rights that humans are availed.
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I think that logic would go right over their heads. Sheeple reasoning ability is an oxymoron. Their point is that they have no point. They write their own scripts to suit whatever they are trying to prove at the moment. It never flies.
Jen said... 55
According to the BV Files website, there's a court hearing today. Follow it on Twitter at bvfiles2014
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The account is locked. What good is that? LOL
I'll call the detective's screenshots and raise her a People article. Jon said several nice things about Kate when interviewed for People.
There are numerous instances over the last 5 years where Jon showed who the bigger adult was and spoke well of Kate publicly. Or, just said nothing.
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Maybe it's time to bring up the agonizing "Daddy don't go" video so the sheep can review what the kids - NOT KATE - think of their father.
http://www.realitytvkids.com/2010/08/daddy-dont-go-kids-hysterical-and.html
Tweet Le, If you have a Twitter account, click on follow. At some point, they'll begin tweeting but I believe the case is being heard in the afternoon in the western time zone. I assume they're being cautious so the non-fans etc. don't begin sending in ban requests.
Linda, I don't have a Twitter account and if I did I wouldn't follow so the bully boyz and their psycho-phants could try and ID me at some point. Did you see what one of them did to an occasional non fan posting about a bankruptcy just because non fan tweeted to one of the Kate toadies?
There is one of the BV crew there at the trial commenting on Twitter:
https://twitter.com/0ccupyRebellion/with_replies
BVfiles comment section can't be accessed nor his Twitter. I'd like to know why not. Oh, well.
Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said... 58
Jen said... 55
According to the BV Files website, there's a court hearing today. Follow it on Twitter at bvfiles2014
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The account is locked. What good is that? LOL
July 29, 2014 at 10:29 AM
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Can anyone give me the elevator version of this situation with BV in court?
Thanks!
Tweet Le, Sure is hard to keep the players straight!
Linda, yes it is, and to think the courts are tied up with this kind of crap. IF the trial is about child porn that's one thing, but I can't tell that that is the gist of it. I should go read the original lawsuit again. It's a mystery to me why non fans of Kate's are even involved.
There goes Kate with the teasing again:
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 · 2m
Good afternoon, everyone! THIS day is FINALLY here... #ItCallsForAParty #HaveWaitedALongTime4This #DontWorryBHappy #CuriousYet?
She just loves to get her tweeties all flustered and keep them guessing.
The kids weren't spanked in school-(I hope) there mother is the one who did it.
I went to a catholic grammar and yes spankings-(w/a ruler) were common however. My mother never allowed the nuns to spank by brother or myself.
Plus the kids were babies so WTF does school have to do with anything?
Can anyone give me the elevator version of this situation with BV in court?
Thanks!
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Tucker's, there is no elevator version. LOL It's now so convoluted it's impossible to follow, so many lies. BV is suing two alleged child pornographers for threatening him and his family. BV has included some non fans and DOES because they allegedly support the two alleged child porn guys, because if you're against BV you're my friend type of thing, which is pretty stupid, IMO.
At this juncture, I'd say the BV crew has much more credible evidence than the BVfiles guy. Again, my opinion.
Well today is National Lasagna Day, so she can throw a party and serve her "AMAZ vege lasagna".
Can anyone give me the elevator version of this situation with BV in court?
Thanks!
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There's a synopsis on the BV Files page, 3rd New Judge thread, posted under Cliffnotes.
Tweet Le, My impression also was that this suit, as opposed to other ongoing suits, was about BV allegedly being threatened by two (maybe) child pornographers. There's so much incorrect info out there, I dont think anyone knows what's going on, including the attorneys. The fact that a few of the non-fans were thrown in without cause, seems to make this a frivolous suit, only brought forth by BV to terrorize innocent women.And hopefully the judge will call him on it.
I also understand there may be a hit filed against the defective detective and others for a phishing scam? Who knows.
Dear TFW,
I'm not taking your bait. Enjoy your party.
Love,
FlimsyFlamsy
@Kateplusmy8: Good afternoon, everyone! THIS day is FINALLY here... #ItCallsForAParty
#HaveWaitedALongTime4This #DontWorryBHappy #CuriousYet?
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The grifted beach vacation came through?
Any connection between TFW's tease tweet about THIS day is FINALLY here and the BV court hearing today?
bm
After reading some comments here I decided to go to BVFiles to see what was what. That was a number of weeks ago and I cannot believe the labyrinthine rabbit hole I discovered.
What is most disturbing is that these are some of the people that KK recruited to fight her so called bullying. She said I believe: "My hero," about J McGibney which proves definitively that she has no judgement at all and no critical thinking and that she is as mentally disturbed as some of the major players involved.
On the thread of July 26th, a poster named CLIFF'S NOTES ON COURT CASE at 12:41pm gave an excellent run down of what is happening which is really needed as a guide to this whole mess.
I have read there with equal parts fascination, horror and disbelief that KK has been so stupid as to have allowed herself to become embroiled with the likes of these people. SMH
#CuriousYet?
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Nope.
And Gladys had her Twitter alert set. Thar she blows!
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 7m
@Kateplusmy8 Oh Geez...#QueenOfTease...here we go again....what is it? Did U pay off ur mortgage? LOL
I hope she didn't get a new bird as a companion for Zorro.
She's mentally ill and playing games. Don't....engage.
On the thread of July 26th, a poster named CLIFF'S NOTES ON COURT CASE at 12:41pm gave an excellent run down of what is happening which is really needed as a guide to this whole mess.
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The CLIFF NOTES ON COURT CASES is posted on July 28, 12:41 AM.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 7m
@Kateplusmy8 Oh Geez...#QueenOfTease...here we go again....what is it? Did U pay off ur mortgage? LOL
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Even if Kate did how would this affect you Milo?
You'd think with the the teasing she does her sheep would get tired of it.
Her latest tweet must tie in with the teaser tweet that turned out to be good news for the family but nothing to do with work. V A C A TION in the summertime! Give it to me free and I will be the happiest Kate that you will ever see. I'm on vacation in the summertime.
Ah, who cares. SHARKNADO2 is on tomorrow and I'm anticipating that much more than TFW's news.
Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said... 79
On the thread of July 26th, a poster named CLIFF'S NOTES ON COURT CASE at 12:41pm gave an excellent run down of what is happening which is really needed as a guide to this whole mess.
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The CLIFF NOTES ON COURT CASES is posted on July 28, 12:41 AM.
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Thank you. I stand corrected. I'm not wearing my glasses. In any case it is interesting reading.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 7m
@Kateplusmy8 Oh Geez...#QueenOfTease...here we go again....what is it? Did U pay off ur mortgage? LOL
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Even if Kate did how would this affect you Milo?
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It would mean that when Milo moves in with her, Milo wouldn't have to pay rent to contribute to the mortgage.
@MiloandJack: @Kateplusmy8 New puppy? New boyfriend? New show? Oh heck let's celebrate all three!! )
Milo, Milo, Milo you forgot to mention a companion bird for Zorro.
Fleecing The Sheeple said... 84
It would mean that when Milo moves in with her, Milo wouldn't have to pay rent to contribute to the mortgage.
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I was going to add this...But I waited for someone else to do it for me. :-)
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 78
She's mentally ill and playing games. Don't....engage.
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You know, we can snigger (or snicker, whatever you prefer) about it, but admin is right. There is really something wrong with this person, and with each tweet, it's becoming more evident.
Thank you. I stand corrected. I'm not wearing my glasses. In any case it is interesting reading.
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You're welcome. Very informative read. The whole convoluted mess which is going to go on indefinitely, no doubt, originated from BV's paranoia about conspiracies. That was the whole basis for Kate's lawsuit against RH, Jon and the DOES, a conspiracy!! That certainly didn't work out well.
Milo is just as mentally ill. This is her FOURTH response to that teaser tweet. 'My friend?' Uh no, I don't think K8 considers Milo her 'friend.' And friendship goes both ways.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 34m
@Kateplusmy8 I'm abt. 2go into a meeting!! Fess up my friend...ur causin #TwitterJitters here...:)
Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said... 67
Can anyone give me the elevator version of this situation with BV in court?
Thanks!
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Tucker's, there is no elevator version. LOL It's now so convoluted it's impossible to follow, so many lies. BV is suing two alleged child pornographers for threatening him and his family. BV has included some non fans and DOES because they allegedly support the two alleged child porn guys, because if you're against BV you're my friend type of thing, which is pretty stupid, IMO.
At this juncture, I'd say the BV crew has much more credible evidence than the BVfiles guy. Again, my opinion.
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BV, like Kate, is a public figure. Public figures are subjected to criticism, even harsh, intense criticism. BV knows this. To ramp up his efforts to silence people, he claims he has received death threats, a ploy he also tried to use to silence Kate critics. If someone truly receives a death threat, which is a serious crime and should be treated as such, the police and FBI should be brought in immediately. Immediately. Those authorites should handle it from there and investigate fully. The same with Kate. If Kate had ever received such a serious threat, Steve would know how to proceed and involve law enforcement. BV's help was never needed. Death threats are not a civil law matter.
There was a hearing in San Jose, CA this past May where BV and his lawyer were trying to have the BVfiles blog shut down. They filed a temporary restraining order. The weekend before the hearing, threats against BV's children were posted to the BVfiles blog. No threats of this type ever appeared there before. These threats are what BV and his attorney used to justify getting the blog shut down. In the meantime, BV reported these threats to the police. After some investigation, the officer found the threats to not be credible. There is a transcript of this TRO hearing on BVfiles where BV and his lawyer told some.. uhh.. tall tales to sway this judge. On this info, the BVfiles blog was ordered by the judge to be shut down, so the admins opened up again under a new name on Wordpress where it has remained since.
The person who BV accuses of being behind the blog (who BV also claims is a felon, pedophile, KKK member and part of the Aryan Brotherhood) complained to the judge's superior about the tall tale telling. The superior judge agreed and removed that judge from the case. A new judge was assigned, but she recused herself a few days later, saying that she was predjudiced against BV. When she was named, someone predicted right away that she would recuse herself. Today's hearing is in front of a 3rd new judge.
So while there are many, many more cases to go that have all been initiated by BV, this one today is a continuance of the one from May where the original judge was removed from the case. Today's hearing is about trying to establish who operates the blog and BV's attempts to have it shut down permanently. This info was all gleaned from the BVfiles site.
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 · 2m
Good afternoon, everyone! THIS day is FINALLY here... #ItCallsForAParty #HaveWaitedALongTime4This #DontWorryBHappy #CuriousYet?
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Sorry Kate...don't give a crap.
Anyone have a good summer dessert recipe for a large group?
My sister is hosting our annual 7 birthdays in 8 weeks summer get together and she asked me to bring a dessert. We're looking at about 20 people.
My first thought was to buy two watermelons and call it done but I thought maybe some of you guys might have some ideas for something more...uh, um...thoughtful. :)
I'd appreciate any and all ideas.
Kate popped back on and completely ignored the three fans begging to know what's up.
The non fan guesses are funny and the random off topic replies like Please follow the Beagle Project crack me up.
Ah, who cares. SHARKNADO2 is on tomorrow and I'm anticipating that much more than TFW's news.
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Speaking of Sharknado2. I was looking at the IMBd posting for Sharknado2 and checked the full cast and crew. Guess who's listed as "Key Makeup Artist?" Yep, Deanna Bell.
Check it out:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3062074/fullcredits?ref_=tt_ov_st_sm
Maybe that's why Kate is celebrating-except she's a day early.
Maybe Deanna is coming over and they're going to have a viewing party tomorrow night.
Snark and OT's aside...
I think Mr. Petersen's observations and vocal objections are so important because he both lived it and has worked consistently his adult life to advocate for and increase the rights of child performers.
People can say all they want that children in reality t.v. are not performers because they are not acting. That it's not the same.
IMO, it's much more damaging. A child actor can at least learn to separate themselves from the character they play.
How does a reality t.v. child separate themselves?
Will Alana Thompson look back on her, filmed and farmed out to the general public, antics as Honey Boo Boo fondly while she's in High School?
There is a huge disservice, and in my opinion outright abuse, being done to children in the name of entertainment dollars.
No amount of money makes it okay to put children on display to be watched, thought of negatively or positively, have opinions formed of their personalities, admired and/or criticized by strangers.
It's just wrong. Their mother who did this to them however, well, on that my opinion differs slightly.
Kate is a twit, NJ gal, maybe TFMJG gets eaten by a shark? Now that would be funny! Or maybe she scares the shark away!
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 · 2m
Good afternoon, everyone! THIS day is FINALLY here... #ItCallsForAParty #HaveWaitedALongTime4This #DontWorryBHappy #CuriousYet?
You have been waiting for so long, it calls for a party, you have no worries, and you are going to be happy.
Steve has FINALLY left Gina for you.
Flimsy, yes, I let the veg lasagna get by!
http://youtu.be/1nIiJLoDh7Y
I got it! She's updating her website after two years. She's added words of inspiration. Finally, after "Coming Soon" and she's removing the pre-order info for her cookbook.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 34m
@Kateplusmy8 I'm abt. 2go into a meeting!! Fess up my friend...ur causin #TwitterJitters here...:)
I hope the "meeting" is with his/her therapist.
Sheri - Peach Mousse - you can double and tripple very easily. It's always a crowd pleaser. Light and yummy.
1 3 oz package peach Jell-O
1 cup boiling water
3 ripe peaches (sliced)
2 tablespoons honey
1/4 teaspoon almond extract
1/2 cup Cool Whip
In large mixing bowl dissolve Jell-O in boiling water. In blender, combine peaches, honey and almond extract. Process until smooth. Stir peach mixture into Jell-O. Cover and refrigerate until syrupy (about 1-1/2 hours). Beat on high speed until mixture doubles in volume (about 5 minutes). Fold in the Cool Whip. Leave in bowl or spoon into dessert dishes. Refrigerate until firm (about 1 hour).
Fleecing The Sheeple said... 77
I hope she didn't get a new bird as a companion for Zorro.
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I certainly hope that Kate doesn't come down with a case of NEB (Not Enough Birds). It's quite common in the avian community. When you have one bird, you just keep adding to your flock until you find yourself with more than you can handle.
First off, I read some really yummy recipes (tsk, tsk, real cooks don't need a recipe *snort*), and second, are those recipes ORGANIC?
LOL, sorry, couldn't resist some snark.... :)
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as far as Ate's tweet :Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 · 2m
Good afternoon, everyone! THIS day is FINALLY here... #ItCallsForAParty #HaveWaitedALongTime4This #DontWorryBHappy #CuriousYet?"
....hmm. my guess is, the stick will finally be removed?
jcb
Sherri... How about frozen lemonade cupcakes? I came upon this recipe on The Stir when WOS was one of their feature "writers". It's NOTHING like ANYTHING I usually bake, lol, because one of the ingredients is white cake mix but... boy! is it delicious! And super easy to make. I use my own cream cheese frosting but I store bought would do.
And SusanNH: I'm definitely going to try that magic cake. I've never heard of that recipe before but I just know I'm going to love it!
http://www.yummly.com/recipe/Lemonade-Cupcakes-Recipezaar_1?columns=4&position=3%2F10
LOL. Only eight sheeple are curious. I think the guess that the braces came off the girls or the boys got them makes sense because even though it should be about the kids, she makes it about her. The party comment makes me think it has something to do with the kids too. Right now she is DESPERATE to prove what a good mother she is.
She is ridiculous to tweet a tease anyway. I guess it's a way to get attention just like some teenager. She is beyond ridiculous.
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 · 2m
Good afternoon, everyone! THIS day is FINALLY here... #ItCallsForAParty #HaveWaitedALongTime4This #DontWorryBHappy #CuriousYet?
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Is rat claws getting a divorce?
Sheri, this will blow your socks off!
Strawberry Pretzel Salad
2 cups coarsely crushed pretzels
3/4 cups butter, melted
1 cup plus TBLS sugar, divided
1 pkg (8oz) cream cheese, softened
1 container (8oz) Cool Whip, thawed
1 pkg (6oz) strawberry Jello
1 cup boiling water
1/2 cup miniature marshmallows
2 pkgs (10 oz each) frozen sliced strawberries, thawed
Combine crushed pretzels, butter, and 3 TBLS sugar; mix well. Press into a 13x9x2-inch baking dish. Bake in a preheated 400-degree oven 8 minutes. Remove from oven and let cool completely.
In a large mixing bowl with an electric mixer, beat cream cheese and remaining 1 cup sugar until well blended. Fold in whipped topping. Spread over cooled pretzel crust. Refrigerate until chilled.
In a mixing bowl, dissolve gelatin in boiling water. Add marshmallows and stir until melted. Add strawberries with their juice. Let stand 10 minutes. Pour over cream cheese layer. Refrigerate until firm. Cut into squares to serve.
Sheri,
Here is a quick, no bake lemonade pie.
1 tub of Sugar Free Crystal Light
1 big tub of Cool Whip or 2 regular sized
1 Sugar Free Vanilla Jello Pudding mix for pies
2 Graham Cracker pie crusts
Make the vanilla pudding for pies. Add Cool Whip and mix well. Add Crystal Light. I put a quarter of it in and then taste it and pour a little more to make it more sourer. When done, put in pie crust, place plastic dome on and refrigerate at least 2 hours. Great for overnight.
I wanted to make the pies taste like Dreamsicles. I was looking in the Crystal Light selections and they didn't have Orange. I thought, Where is Sugar Free Orange and MY AH HA MOMENT! lol
TANG!!! I ran to the Tang section and there it was! In tubs like Crystal Light and they had Sugar Free! Follow the same instructions as the lemonade pie and you have Dreamsicle Pie.
You could also put cream cheese in a mixer, mix it till smooth with the vanilla pudding then the Crystal Light to taste, Cool Whip, pie crusts refrigerate.
I would have to make 4 of these at a time. They inhaled them, I tell you, they inhaled them! Even middle ds called me from the grocery store and asked me for the ingredient list, he had forgot one item and was going to make some. He was out on his own. So proud!
It was printed in the big town paper 35 miles from me with several others in a recipe contest. So I guess maybe I invented it? hahaha
I have always been told that "the court does not dictate morals." I could site examples of this very fact. Admin, you are correct in everything you have written re: parents with mental illnesses being able to rear their children without court interference. I worked in child welfare for years. Tough place to be, but sometimes it was quite rewarding.
chefsummer said... 108
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 · 2m
Good afternoon, everyone! THIS day is FINALLY here... #ItCallsForAParty #HaveWaitedALongTime4This #DontWorryBHappy #CuriousYet?
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Is rat claws getting a divorce?
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Diabolical, yet so funny!!
Remember when Krazy was anxious to get some kind of deal with CoffeeMate?
LOL....all organic. She is so transparent. She is not a parent...she is a trans-parent.
"They love me.....they really really looooovvvveeee me"
Pathetic. imo
TLC stinks- I think you've decoded the message!
You may now move on to Level 8.
;-)
Or KK getting a new bra-aka-boob job.
Children's "safety" and "future"?
WTF does that even mean?
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In Kate speak, "safety" means to keep hiding the "hidden" information she did not want to come out. Who writes down some of the things she did? She is kray kray. Is every thought she has something to memorialize - apparently so as she was on a "fame high" and a narcissist. Of course the "future" means - I need to continue filming my kids to remain famous and keep my mug out there.
Her true self was exposed in her own writings (although we probably don't know the half of it; she treated her husband like a child; wanted to travel 2 weeks and be home 2 weeks in her own words, so I think everything is, was, and will always be about Kate. And what suits HER.
These kids have been through a circus, revolving around their mother. Should be the other way around. Vile,angry, selfish.
Using my tag name again, although someone may boost it. Hi to my counter part - JMO. lol
TLC Stink 107 I think you hit the nail on the head. The girls teeth perfect, but when will the boys get braces. Probably when they move in with Jon or high School cause boys are icky and don't need nice smiles.
Seems a little classist of TLC to allow Jon/Kate to search for land to build a fancy large new house, or allow them to buy a million plus home with acreage, but only allow Mama June to make improvements on her existing property...by the rr tracks.
LOL. Only eight sheeple are curious. I think the guess that the braces came off the girls or the boys got them makes sense because even though it should be about the kids, she makes it about her.
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She tweeted the other day that she got a phone call confirming good news. What dentist calls and tells you that your child's braces can be removed? Isn't that usually done at your appointment?
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 · Jul 24
This summer day is zipping right along...made egg/hash brown nests for brunch and then received some GR8 news via phone! #LoveDaysLikeThis
Let's see. She said it is family stuff, not work or television related, so it's probably something to do with her children, like braces, or school-related, but she's making it all about herself.
Boy, those few sheep will be so disappointed!
She is ridiculous to tweet a tease anyway. I guess it's a way to get attention just like some teenager. She is beyond ridiculous.
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And if she keeps this up, her few remaining sheeple will get sick of this pretty darn fast. Nobody is going to get excited over anything she says. Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me.
I think that I was spanked and turned out fine so the G kids will too is ridiculous. I wish we as a society could move beyond this. I was spanked and it did affect me. My parents did not beat me. They spanked me with a hand for a short time with my clothes on, never in front of siblings. I became a liar as a child. I believed I could not trust telling them anything. I certainly did not believe I could tell them I did anything wrong. Eventually, they knew I lied to them but not why. I am an adult and still do not trust them with many things. Looking back they did not spank often nor after I was about 12 yrs old. But I still have a fear of irrational punishment. As a child I did not understand it. I know that I am an adult and I am responsible for all my decisions and feelings but this is my story.
I was also punished at times with extra chores. I always had chores but my mom was good at rotating them. All of us did every chore. The only boy/girl distinction was when my brother got older and was a lot stronger. He did stuff that needed more strength than I had. But he still had to vacuum. My mom knew I would like to be off reading so extra chores were punishment. No one ever took my door off my bedroom.
There's a column in the Reading Eagle by John Rosemond on child discipline. I don't always agree but I like that he wants discipline to appear matter of fact and without passion. He does recommend in difficult cases clearing out a bedroom of all fun stuff and having a very early bedtime. Then kids can earn their fun time back by good behavior. In all cases he has the parents teaching the kids that their behavior is their responsibility and they earn their consequences. He never advocates violence.
I have heard of removing bedroom doors. I thought it was recommended when you have to do tough love for drug abusers. It's done with the advice of a drug counselor. And it only works because it is a lack of privacy. The twins would have no lack of privacy because of how the house is set up.
I have to wonder if Kate reads that horrible discipline book that the Duggars use. I can't remember the name. It is popular among some fundamentalist Christians and it could be that she read it and liked it. It advocates severe discipline.
For me, I can't understand how she can grow up hating the way she was treated and then do the same or worse to her kids. Maybe she is a sociopath. I don't know. Sorry for the long rambling post.
One of the "girls" got their braces off.
Good TV week. Royal Pains tonight, Sharknadoo tomorrow and the return of Hell on Wheels Saturday. DVR is going to be busy.
Jeanne (#113), thank you for your long and thoughtful post.
Sorry to hear how things scarred you, and I hope you find
comfort in knowing how many people have endured similar
pain. It takes courage to put those words down.
All this (120)
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Yes. Big letdown with the announcement of the braces:
chuck_fosho @endsley_josh 37m
@Kateplusmy8 I thought the show was coming back #jonandkateplus8
Kate, face it. You are so done. Your few remaining fans are not going to get all worked up in a frenzy because one of your kids is getting braces removed. You will need to do more than that.
What ever happened to photocopying workbooks and having the kids do school work all summer? Guess that I'm-the-smartest-mommy-in-the-whole-world schtick didn't go over so well so she dropped it like she does everything else.
PJ
Seems a little classist of TLC to allow Jon/Kate to search for land to build a fancy large new house, or allow them to buy a million plus home with acreage, but only allow Mama June to make improvements on her existing property...by the rr tracks.
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I totally agree and find it completely off putting. Honey Boo Boo's schtick is they are a hick family. Start giving them mcmansions and that hook is gone. But that wasn't the Gosselin shtick. Their shtick was the dynamic between Kate and Jon and what an asshole Kate was and is. That doesn't change when you give them a mcmansion. Rather that's just an easy way to crank out several episode ideas revolving around the purchase and moving in. So because of that they get to be pimped out and Honey Boo Boo gets the shaft? She is working just as hard as them, where is her first class upgrade?
Whoa, it was the braces! She tweeted a pic of a cake with a smile on it. You're KIDDING. Why can't she just say that's the news? What's with the teasing over something so stupid?
Oh her sheeple have to be annoyed even if they'd never admit it. Come on. I told you, folks---don't play her mind F games. I told you. She knows full well everyone will wonder if it's a show. She loves saying look at all these people buzzing about me and a show. Just as expected she pops in hours later after she got people all worked up, with the real lame news.
Thank you Jeanne.
I was spanked too, very hard enough to induce sobs, and I did not like it or find it one bit effective. As an adult, I had a discussion with my parents about it and I think we all found it really helpful. It helped me to move on from it that I had gotten it off my chest and knowing they felt bad that it was something that had bothered me into adulthood. And it's good to be on the same page as a family, as it is none of our desires that their grandchildren ever be touched like that by them or us. We have an understanding now of expectations for future generations.
My sense is that we are moving away from this technique. Far, far away. As Tucker said society and and should progress and part of that is learning how children should be treated. That certainly does not involve a paddle, you freak CJ.
Tucker's Mom said... 112
LOL if she and rat claws get married she's be miss rat claws.
. Why can't she just say that's the news?\
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Because she needs her fans to give her attention by asking what is it?
She's hoping that the media picks it up and gives her some attention,
We all know that if KK got a new show she would be manic tweeting about it and how excited she and kids are to be back.
I wonder how the poor boys feel about all this pomp and circumstance for braces off when they haven't even gotten to start their treatment yet. Feels like rubbing it in.
Radaronline has another article. I agree, I wish they would get to the meat in the book instead of the pie for desert.
http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2014/07/gosselin-family-money-made-reality-tv-kate-freebies/
What's a 3 year permanent restraining order---it's for 3 years OR permanent, isn't it? Sounds like conflicting terminology.
What's a 3 year permanent restraining order---it's for 3 years OR permanent, isn't it? Sounds like conflicting terminology.
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That's correct.
We use a permanent restraining order simply to mean it's a final ruling. No more hearings contesting it. A temporary restraining order means that it's just an order pending a full trial on the matter if you so desire a trial.
Permanent restraining order could be just 6 weeks long but are usually one year to three years to five. The permanent means no more questions asks, in a sense. It does not mean "forever."
Why, what happened? I missed it.
JMO said... 123
One of the "girls" got their braces off.
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I think it would be more exciting to the sheeple (Gladys in particular) if she had her "girls" re-inflated.
Why, what happened? I missed it.
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The judge in todays hearing announced a 3 year permanent restraining order for the Retzlaff guy, one of those who is being sued by McGib. He supposedly lives in AZ and McGib lives in Calif. And the judge denied Retzlaff's motion for a continuance. Apparently discovery can now start regarding some of the defendants.
Kinda weird you seem to be rooting for BV? I find all that too convoluted to follow or be all that interested in. It sounds like people got really worked up over what BV was doing but in so doing, crossed similar lines themselves. They should have tempered themselves.
The bottom line is this. A five minute browse of this mess should have told any celebrity with half a brain to freaking steer clear, go away, run away, do not pass go get the hell OUT OF THERE. It's a PR nightmare full of unstable and overzealous nuts. On BOTH sides.
But to TFW, that was her hero. She wanted to be part and parcel to it all. It's beyond me.
I think the damage being done to the children by taping them pales in comparison to the damage Krazy Kate is doing to them by this non-stop warfare with their father. The only parent that actually has empathy with his children.
Jon needs to see Collin.
I'm not rooting for BV. I think he's an egomaniacal, litigious POS. I'm still trying to figure out all the various lawsuits and what's happening when. Just reporting what I read today on a BV toady's Twitter.
Let me just add, the one who has been tweeting the info thinks that SS means social security numbers and therefore thinks something really down and dirty is going on among the non fans. None of BV's other toadies has the guts to correct her. LOL
Last year TLC offered the Honey Boo Boo family a new house especially due to a security scare. They turned the offer down. Rosie O'Donnell also offered to purchase a house for them but they again turned it down. Mama June was on a talk show last year, I can't remember which one, and stated she does not want to live above her means. She said the show could end anytime and the money that has been earned is in trust for all the kids. They do not want to leave that house. I think it is rented, but I am not sure. This season they are making a few upgrades like new carpets and furniture. I give her a lot of credit. She is still on a budget and their trips are close enough to home that Uncle Poodle drives them to the destinations. Totally unlike someone else who needs first class everything and is rude as hell at all times and to everyone that dares come near her......including her kids.
lukebandit said... 136
Radaronline has another article. I agree, I wish they would get to the meat in the book instead of the pie for desert.
http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2014/07/gosselin-family-money-made-reality-tv-kate-freebies/
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Ah no wonder why she rainbow tweeting about her lame surprise she want to distract people.
Jeanne said,
think that I was spanked and turned out fine so the G kids will too is ridiculous. I wish we as a society could move beyond this. I was spanked and it did affect me. My parents did not beat me. They spanked me with a hand for a short time with my clothes on, never in front of siblings. I became a liar as a child. I believed I could not trust telling them anything. I certainly did not believe I could tell them I did anything wrong. Eventually, they knew I lied to them but not why. I am an adult and still do not trust them with many things
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There is a difference between spanking and hitting with an object. I happen to believe that both are wrong and is very poor role modeling for children. There are much more effective ways to teach children and correct bad behavior.
Spanking with an open hand connects the spanner because they will feel a sting in their hand. However, beating with an object, like a spoon or belt, is disconnected--the spanner doesn't not feel the force of the blows. I consider these types of spankings to be beatings.
I will say that I do believe that many people are misguided, or are repeating what they learned in their families. Hopefully, this will fade away as other generations are becoming more educated about the long term effects of hitting a child.
There is a difference between spanking and hitting with an object.
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I see what you're saying about the object allowing the perp to feel a level of disconnect from the beating.
But to the victim it can hurt just as much. My mother was strong and could really pummel me with just her hand. It's one and the same to me. I was beaten. They are both equally wrong to me, although I am well aware that most states allow open handed spankings. I don't mean this as a pile on to my parents because as I said, we've discussed what happened as a family and have healed. Not everyone has been so lucky. As far as I understand it, Kate does both or did both. Open hand AND objects.
Didn't Kate do this before -- tease tweet and got fans all excited, and then it turned out to be nothing?
It was so boring that I can't even remember what it was, only that this is repeated behavior.
So the big teaser was a kid getting braces removed? hmm....how many single (*cough*) moms of 8, count'em, 8 kids, that hasn't received a steady paycheck can afford braces?? (and private school/3 new cars, etc)...well heck, it must be all that money she saved from not having to buy summer pool passes. LOL
(and, by the way, I took my twins to the orthodontist today to get that process going.....$11,000). eek!
maybe I need to start a go-fund-me page.
just kidding. hahahahaa....yep, ol' Ate is a' strugglin'. lol
jcb
Tweet I must have misinterpreted this comment from you then:
"At this juncture, I'd say the BV crew has much more credible evidence than the BVfiles guy."
I took that is you sounded in his corner. I do not find BV credible at all and certainly not more credible than that much more rational web site who has chosen to hold his feet to the fire for once. He has been nothing but a menace and I trust nothing he says.
As far as someone blabbing about permanent restraining orders on twitter who has proven not to be credible, I don't believe it until I see it. Respectfully, I never trust for sure what happened in court other than the minute order and transcripts. Everyone thinks they know what happened and are frequently wrong. It's sort of like the telephone game, and even excellent attorneys can misunderstand things. Much less some fan. I also think there is some interesting psychology going on in that if you ask one side what happened they tend to spin things more in their favor. Like a hear what you want to hear situation. And some judges are a heck of a lot more unclear than others. When you get one of those you have to open your mouth and say Your honor is it correct you are ordering this? Yet few do.
I was spanked but never hit their's a big difference.
oh geez, I just HAD to go and look at her tweet..that has to be the UGLIEST most mediocre cake I have ever seen.
B-L-E-C-H!!!!!!
(oh yea, she made that carnival cake....suuuurrreeeee....)
LOL
jcb
Tweet I must have misinterpreted this comment from you then:
"At this juncture, I'd say the BV crew has much more credible evidence than the BVfiles guy."
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No, you didn't misinterpret it. I do feel the evidence BV has is stronger. That doesn't mean I want him to win. If you haven't seen all he presented before his Twitter was shut down, it's difficult to know what is/will be presented to the judge. Apparently the judge was impressed enough today with what evidence he had that he ruled against Retzlaff. However, BV, wanted the BVfiles blog shut down. Don't know if that is going to happen.
Over And Out said... 149
Didn't Kate do this before -- tease tweet and got fans all excited, and then it turned out to be nothing?
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Her first big tease that I recall was when she hinted about something big happening and after quite a long wait finally tweeted she "won" the case that LaFair had brought against her. The non fans had been commenting and tweeting about it already, no big news and the fans had to have seen all of it. Big let down for her poor fans.
Apparently the judge was impressed enough today with what evidence he had that he ruled against Retzlaff.
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The BV files has a much better run down of it.
The permanent restraining order thing immediately sounded off to me since those are pretty hard to get and usually reserved for serious DV cases. It goes on your criminal record, it's serious.
Sure enough, first of all, it wasn't a real permanent restraining order like what I deal with in serious domestic violence case, but rather a "Workplace Violence injunction". Restraining order "lite." A slap on the wrist just leave them alone at work don't do it again. And, the judge warned BV to leave the other side alone too. Here is the form to apply for such an order: http://www.courts.ca.gov/documents/wv100.pdf
Second it will be stayed as soon as he posts bond so it's not even going to go into effect. I've never in seven years seen a restraining order stayed. The judge must not have taken it all THAT seriously if he was perfectly willing to stay it.
There was also talk of mutual restraining orders, which is common in a pissing match.
And, a shit ton of other stuff BV was whining about the judge turned down. Not surprisingly. It doesn't sound like much of a victory but of course that side highlights that one thing. This is spin from their side at its finest. Don't fall for it.
I flipped to about 5 minutes of this Asia show and I know exactly why she has this show...her MOTHER. Messed up.
Didn't Kate do this before -- tease tweet and got fans all excited, and then it turned out to be nothing?
It was so boring that I can't even remember what it was, only that this is repeated behavior.
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Oh she does this like several times a year.
As I recall, sometimes she never tells us what it is. That is when it's most annoying. Didn't her mother and father teach her that a tease is obnoxious?
Admin, thanks for the information. Haven't been over to BVfiles to read yet.
Admin - I turned Asia on for about 5 minutes also and switched to Chopped Teen Callenge. That Asia is a pie e of work and her attitude turned me off completely. And now I'm going to watch AGT.
The manic tweeting/teasing was about braces? Did she invite Gladys over for cake? She is one crazed person these days. Or I should say crazier than usual. Surprised she didn't tweet a picture of the smile since nothing is within boundaries for her.
OrangeCrusher 1
Didn't her mother and father teach her that a tease is obnoxious?
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I bet they did but remember if you criticize Kate then you're done.
Admin - I turned Asia on for about 5 minutes also and switched to Chopped Teen Callenge. That Asia is a pie e of work and her attitude turned me off completely. And now I'm going to watch AGT.
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She's already been ruined by the fame. She is so arrogant. She said the family just wants to be famous. At least she's honest but good Lord that's the worst kind of situation to give someone a reality show. I wish a little girl like her would rather say I just want to dance because I love to dance. Forget the fame thing, she's a child!
I felt awful for her little sister who apparently isn't interested in any of this and no one is interested in her. I can't watch any of this anymore. It was good for awhile when it was much more simple and really just about some small town girls who worked their tails off to beat other small town girls. That was fun. Now all the girls are mini celebs who expect music videos and monthly trips to LA to be in some performance and the production values are way up, 99% of it is absolutely scripted. It's not enjoyable anymore.
Didn't Kate once explain that ortho treatment is in place for all of her kids, boys included, but she's going along with dentist's recommendation for the boys, who for some reason, just aren't ready for braces? Not all mouths develop at the same rate. I seem to recall something about expanders for them, or some of pre-brace treatment has already been done.
She's already been ruined by the fame. She is so arrogant
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I saw a preview of her upcoming show and I so agree with you.
However, BV, wanted the BVfiles blog shut down. Don't know if that is going to happen.
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There's an update on the blog, "Not Such a Bad Day!"
Not such a bad day. See what I mean, BV people are crowing but so is the other side. They both think they won something. Who to believe. Well, I tend to believe the side that explained it credibly, but that's just me. The other side has immediately been caught in a MASSIVE exaggeration about the "permanent restraining order." You can't throw around legal terms like that and not expect people who know what they mean to question it.
It's all one big mess but the Files people never tried to attack me, threaten me and my personal life and many others, unprovoked, so that's where I stand. They also tend to explain things such that they 1. make sense and 2. don't sound irrational and manic. So there's that.
Her first big tease that I recall was when she hinted about something big happening and after quite a long wait finally tweeted she "won" the case that LaFair had brought against her.
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I seem to remember her tweeting something like that. I tried searching for it using @kateplusmy8+Lafair. Didn't find anything that Kate tweeted, but I did find this.
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@Chablis4u @kateplusmy8 It's Lafair, not LafLair. Someone withdraws their case against you, then you are the winner. Lafair ran, ran, ran.
Interesting how that interpretation changed when Kate dropped her lawsuit.
Admin--
I agree that you were the victim of a beating. Undoubtedly, your mom also felt it, although, of course, not to the same degree. Hitting with a spoon or paddle has zero consequences to the perp ( great word for it), and it is easier to do serious injury.
I was spanked as a young child, then beaten with a belt in my teens. The spanking was administered calmly, and only a few little slaps. It was more humiliating than painful. The belt lashes were in anger, and my father was out of control. By then he was drinking heavily every night, and had a very short temper. I am still traumatized by the sound of a belt being pulled through belt loops.
It sounds like your mom spanked out of anger, and was out of control--so, yes, I agree that that was not what I was describing as a spanking.
What "manic" tweeting/teasing? She made ONE tweet and then a follow-up.
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She was tweeting allllll day long this weekend about some good news phone call. Did you miss that? It was out of control. Truly out of control. I think most of us assume this was the final chapter of that. The phone call she was manic tweeting about for days was about the braces appointment I assume, with them coming off today. She's been manic for about four days now, this was just sort of the tail end of it. If you look at just today in isolation you're right not much happened today and she doesn't look manic TODAY. That's not accurate of the past several days though. You have to look at it as a whole.
Didn't Lafair win the first case and kate appealed and either Lafair won that or she withdrew. She just didn't want to go through the aggravation with kate again. I believe Admin said you have to pick your fires.
I wonder if Lafair could of after all the court dealings she could of put a lien on kate's house. If it goes up for sale, Lafair and other liens would have to be paid first.
Over And Out said... 149
Didn't Kate do this before -- tease tweet and got fans all excited, and then it turned out to be nothing?
It was so boring that I can't even remember what it was, only that this is repeated behavior.
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Lol, there was the creepy thing about something she put in the mail and sealed it with a kiss. I don't think we every found out what that was. Maybe her reworked crookbook manuscript.
Spanking to me is one, possibly two, swats on the behind when the child (older than 1.5?, younger than 4) has done something egregious, such as run into the street after being told not to. It's done in the spur of the moment as a reaction to danger, and not in anger.
Hitting the child with an object is a beating. So is waiting til later.
I was a little horrified to see what TFW was using to beat them with. They were too little to understand being hit. And that thing must have really hurt!
It had thick, stiff sides. That's something you use in a fit of anger to inflict pain. Something you use to hit with while you're enraged.
No wonder the kids are terrified of her.
That wasn't any paper towel tube with thin, flexible sides. That thing had thick, rigid sides.
That had to feel like getting hit with a piece of pipe.
I've seen that kind of core before, but can't place it. They're heavy duty and thick. I think brown paper rolls come around them. They come as the core to another product. We had them all the time as kids, but I can't remember what was around them. We had them to play with, and were forbidden from hitting with them because they would cause a welt and hurt like h*ll.
She tweeted 42 times on Saturday when she said she had one of the kids. If that's not manic I dont know what is. The entire weekend she tweeted 70 times. If you don't agree that's manic you must have a different definition. No one here posted 70 times that weekend, gimme a break. The point is it was outrageously higher than her normal one or two tweets and a good deal of them sounded very off suggesting some kind of manic phase. If you don't agree she was manic tweeting how high is your threshold?
Let's see....you're away from home for weeks filming CA and tweet once or twice; home with your children on a Saturday and tweet 42 times.
Nah. I don't see anything wrong with *that* picture.
That tweeting figure becomes more extreme when it's contrasted
with the fact that sometimes she disappears off the radar. When
she was doing CA, didn't she only tweet once, about the PieFace
event -- while other fans stayed in touch with their fans during
the filming period? And her birthday was around then, with fans
sending her wishes, which she completely disregarded. So,
yeah, knowing her patterns, I think "manic" is a perfectly fine
description of this little jag.
Assuming 8 hours to sleep, that's 2.6 tweets per hour, every hour.
Wow. Talk about being focused on your kids. Or even on your household duties. Not.
Spanking to me is one, possibly two, swats on the behind when the child (older than 1.5?, younger than 4) has done something egregious, such as run into the street after being told not to. It's done in the spur of the moment as a reaction to danger, and not in anger.
)))))))))))) Really Mel? I always reacted with gratefulness and an almost euphoria when my child ran out in traffic (once!) and wasn't hurt. I HUGGED her, hitting her didn't even enter the realm of my mind. Sure, I was upset with her much LATER (and told her so) but I certainly wouldn't think to spank her as a spur of the moment decision. Good grief.
IF one chooses to 'spank' a child, I'd hope it wouldn't be done as a rash, unthinking decision.
A few months ago, some of Kate's haters were complaining about the condition of the boys' teeth, and she said not to worry that by August, everyone would be in braces. Have yet to see a boy tup in braces though.
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 · 2m
Good afternoon, everyone! THIS day is FINALLY here... #ItCallsForAParty #HaveWaitedALongTime4This #DontWorryBHappy #CuriousYet?
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Oh God, she is sooo tacky, no couth. Braces came off?? Really?
Way to blow a very "mediocre" milestone into something that it's NOT. It's of no interest to ANYONE but the kid. And yes, when there is something WORTH tweeting about-CA?? Crickets. Oh, such a little tease isn't she? haha, how pathetic.THAT is the big event?
Yup, she is soooo missing her life of just a few short years ago. Bet she's fuming and having crazy talk in her head about how THIS could have been an episode
For me I was spanked or whooped-(As us black kids would say) as were all the kids in my family and most of my friends,
However I never feared my mother she never hurt me just corrected my naughty behavior. My older brother loves to spank but again he never hurts his kids my-(nieces and nephews).
You can spank your child w/i harming them physically and mentally IMO this is what KK has done she didn't spank them she beat them.
Sheesh, when I saw her tweet yesterday my heart dropped. Then I remembered, oh wait, it's TFW and it's probably not a new show. However, I at least thought it would be about CA since Trump said last week it would air this fall. Good grief. Braces off...who cares?
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Go Robert!
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I second that PJ Go Robert.
I swear, her cakes always resemble something the twins would bake. And this woman published a cookbook, LOL.
lukebandit said... 170
Didn't Lafair win the first case and kate appealed and either Lafair won that or she withdrew. She just didn't want to go through the aggravation with kate again. I believe Admin said you have to pick your fires.
I wonder if Lafair could of after all the court dealings she could of put a lien on kate's house. If it goes up for sale, Lafair and other liens would have to be paid first.
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LaFair won the first time in court. Kate appealed and then LaFair dropped it, claiming that it was not worth the time or money to allow Kate to drag it out. Kate's response when the sheeple were congratulating her for her faux "win" was the infamous "no nvr means no 2 me" tweet. No nvr means no is the motto for all 2 years olds, not a suppposedly grown ass woman. A perfect example of how money cannot buy class.
No response to the 70 plus tweet figure I cited, from the angry driveby who kept righteously insisting that Kate did not manic tweet this weekend. Rather WE were manic, they insisted. Maybe they forgot to hit "all replies" on twitter. #oops
Shriek of delight here!!!!!!!! Does this mean Robert is officially on the NYT Best Seller List?!?!
TLC stinks said... 185
I swear, her cakes always resemble something the twins would bake. And this woman published a cookbook, LOL.
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Lol! This is why she had to rely heavily on Shutterstock for food pictures!
She should have been embarrassed by that LaFair lawsuit. She's a multi millionaire who doesn't pay her bills and a judge said she didn't pay her bill, it's a fact now. I don't know, I think most people take a lot of pride in paying off what they owe and would be embarrassed to be called out on not doing that.
And great catch about the head ewe saying if you back out of a lawsuit you've lost. LOL oh ok, duly noted! Seriously they will say whatever in the moment to please her, they don't give a sheep's behind what they said before or will say in the future. Their credibility is shot.
Reading from the bottom. Vanessa, I think you have described the thought process in scary detail! An episode in the head of TFMJG! How truly awful for those children, that instead of being appreciated by their mother as unique individuals with their own special interests, they are seen as a pack that lives life in episodes.
TFMJG is never going to realize what she missed right in front of her, and what superficial rewards she sold out their childhood for. She will never get therapy, and she will never admit anything she did was wrong in the slightest. Never. fortunately I believe children are resilient and some will be able to break away from TFMJG.
A friend gave me a button years ago, it says ”it's never too late to have a happy childhood”. Some will choose to be happy away from TFMJG. Their Dad is providing a good example of life after TFMJG.
LOL! I guess this wasn't the happy family news from the other day! Good for you Mrs.Neild!
http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2014/07/kate-gosselin-steve-neild-quits-bodyguard/
http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2014/07/kate-gosselin-steve-neild-quits-bodyguard/
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Was he there for the update special? I'm drawing a blank. I know he was there for Celebrity Apprentice but can't remember seeing him since.
My two kids both had braces at the same time. Our dental insurance only covered 50% of the cost. A couple of questions here: does she self-insure because she is unemployed; and did she work out some deal because she always plays the "8" card. I did not get a discount from my orthodontist. I hope the doc has not given in to her tactics. Hell, she's rich.
Meting out spanking as punishment is just wrong.
When Kate told the nanny to keep track of transgressions so she could spank accordingly when she got home, it made me sick.
When I read that she beat the poor little boy for pooping, after she got everything cleaned up, my heart broke.
FFS, you don't even housebreak a dog like that!
So, when Kate attempted to justify her brutal actions by saying her child was not a dog, I say, BITCH, you don't hit a dog for having an accident!
I so, so believe that she beat her dogs for having accidents.
No doubt in my mind.
Admin, of course she was in full manic tweet mode this past weekend. She even said, Hi to Irish fan, Ooh, I love and miss Australia, and even to the defective detective, I need caffeine, GULP, GULP, GULP!
When her kids are gone, twitter silence, when they are under foot, she hits twitter like there is no tomorrow. She hates STAYING OFF twitter more than she loves her kids.
LaFair called it 100% right when she said something like I'm happy the court agreed with my position but I realize someone like Kate is never going to let this go will appeal me to the highest court in the land, and I don't think it's healthy neither financially or emotionally to continue to engage with her.
She would know seeing as she gave her 10 grand worth of therapy.
Isn't that how it always works? You get sucked into this woman's vortex and the more you engage the worse she gets. There is no closure with a sociopath, ever, unless you yourself decide to remove yourself from the toxic situation as LaFair did. Not only would Kate take it to the Supreme Court but she'd be harping on it and harping on it for years. Things are never let go for her unless the other side disappears. Since Jon will never do that, she will never let that one go,
I'm really struggling to remember where he was in the update specials, even blurred out. I feel like I would have noticed that, though to be honest I wasn't looking for him. But he's conspicuous even blurred out.
Radar never gets their facts straight. He has always been with Prudential Associates. He's a partner. Geez.
It is interesting that a neighbor decided to spill the beans. I buy it. The Neild's must be the talk of the street although I am surprised how long it's taken for someone to say anything but I got the feeling the neighbors were probably protecting Gina.
I thought that once Robert's book came out, Steve would be finished with Kate. He must realize she is going nowhere and maybe, just maybe he is putting his own family first. I am sure his boys must have been mortified with all the gossip and Gina works so she probably had to deal with gossip there.
Sort of off topic but it made me think that unless you've got a steady money stream is it really hard to maintain such a lavish lifestyle. The big local news is that Greg Louganis had a beautiful beachfront home north of L.A. that he had to sell. He started it at 3 million and ended up selling it for under 2. Word is the money ran out and he couldn't maintain his lifestyle anymore. And 3 million really isn't that expensive of a house for a celebrity. It's reasonable for an Olympian.
The money ran out for him decades later, but it did run out eventually. It does run out if you don't figure out something.
Kate's latest tweeting jag wasn't just manic, but it was schizophrenic!
#welovesummer
#ahrelaxingsummerdays
#lovemakingbrunch
#lovehavingallmykidshome
#wishitweresummerallyearlong
then...
#getmethefuckoutofhere
#ineeeeeeeeeeeeeeevergetaway
#i'mneeeeeeeeeeeeveralone
I have a new nickname for Kate... Sybil.
I only read here that he was on the update special but blurred. Maybe true but that was filmed a while ago and he could have quit recently. ITA, something had to give. Kate perceived him as her own man. Wonder if her drinking has escalated.
As much as I want to have a chuckle over Steve allegedly quitting,
I have to have a pang of sadness when I realize that yet another
adult will be leaving the children's lives. TFW described him as a
trusted family friend. So Dad - kicked to the curb. Grandparents,
aunts and uncles - don't know how to help us. What is the story
about Uncle Steve?
I thought that once Robert's book came out, Steve would be finished with Kate. He must realize she is going nowhere and maybe, just maybe he is putting his own family first.
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He also may be putting his career first. You don't want to circle the drain with a has been for too long before it reflects on you and your aspirations.
I thought it was very wise of him to hook up with the next big thing at TLC The Little Couple, no pun intended.
Seriously, he needs to be sticking around TLC celebs who are current and relevant. It starts to look pathetic for his image if he sticks to her like some kind of Driving Miss Daisy thing.
The ROL article(based on an NE article) makes it sound like Steve quit being Kate's bodyguard in order to take a position at Prudential Associates.
"The reality star’s longtime bodyguard Steve Neild, 51, has resigned from his position as her bodyguard to work as Executive Vice President of Prudential Associates in Rockville, Md., the ENQUIRER reports, and to boot, a source said that the two “no longer have any communication.”
We know Steve has been with Prudential Associates for quite a long time. That info isn't anything new, yet they make it seem like it's a new position for him.
I remember that Steve was spotted in the background during one of the preview clips for the special. I'll see if I can find it.
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Sort of off topic but it made me think that unless you've got a steady money stream is it really hard to maintain such a lavish lifestyle.
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It costs money to maintain a home. Even just the minimum adds up.
I have no doubt Kate could afford to buy the mansion, and boy, she got TLC to pay for an insane amount of upgrades; the kitchen ($100K+,btw), fencing, invisible fencing, major landscaping with extremely expensive trees (if you've ever landscaped, you KNOW how much those trees cost not only to buy, but to plant)
I would estimate Kate got at least a half million dollars of enhancements and freebies for in and out of that home.
That said, that's all well and good, but Kate has to be paying an insane amount of money for upkeep, not to mention a body guard(ish), nannies and housekeepers.
A young man was passed over an offering of a football scholarship to Penn St. because of his social media presence. This was tweeted by the Offensive Line Coach.
Dropped another prospect this AM due to his social media presence...Actually glad I got to see the 'real' person before we offered him.
These kids don't have any sense to realize that prospective employers, colleges, banks, credit have started checking twitter, Facebook vetting people. If you are trying to rent an apt. and the landlord finds you on FB in a apt. or house partying like it's 1999, or a pic of the police car with blue lights busting up the party and you look like a sloppy ol drunk, you will hear the landlord say, we have no occupancy.
Isn't that how it always works? You get sucked into this woman's vortex and the more you engage the worse she gets.
*******
Kate's like a Chinese finger trap.
The more you struggle, the worse it gets!
The only solution with people like Kate is to cut ties completely.
I used to think that it would be nice for Kevin and Jodi to make up with Kate, for the sake of the kids who are cousins, but I think not only has that ship sailed, but it's probably the most healthy thing to do for Jodi and Kevin to not expose their children to the toxic manure that is Kate and her craziness.
Guess Gina read the book.....
I wonder when exactly it happened.
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