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| Petersen |
In the second time this month a major media outlet has discussed the Gosselin twin's appearance last January on the Today show, Paul Petersen has spoken out to Yahoo T.V. The child advocate and former child star had this to say about the twins' "choking" on national T.V.:
""That was the most frightening example of the damage being done to these kids. They were incoherent. They couldn't say what they really felt. They'd been turned into these performing seals, and not for their own benefit. If they had at least been child actors, they would have a support group of similar kids. I think this is doing tremendous long-term damage — the kind of damage that you really don't see until 10 years later."
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| Osmond |
Just last week, the hosts of The Talk, two of whom are former child stars, had similar criticism for the appearance. describing the twins as "shell-shocked" and "overwhelmed." Marie Osmond added, "As a parent, you need to look at your children's needs individually. I saw that Today show. Those girls didn't want to be on T.V. They shouldn't be on T.V. and that should be her responsibility as a mother."
Thank you Paul, Marie, Sara Gilbert and other former child stars who give these children a voice. You know better than anyone the dangers here. Of all people, Kate should listen to you.
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«Oldest ‹Older 601 – 800 of 1041 Newer› Newest»I see Krazy Kate is in full meltdown mode. Good for her. Maybe milo should run right over and comfort her. Since now she needs a "new" boyfriend because Stevie hit the road.
Kate Gosselin's BIG Admission
Sue Buddy--I just read your article. I had a feeling you couldn't pass on Kate's tweets tonight. Everything you said was spot on.
Your closing line made me laugh out loud!!
"But that's Kate's story and she's sticking to it...even if it is in code."
Good job!
Pfft. Kate made such a big deal out of being followed around by paps. Heck she even made an ass of herself on DWTS over it. She said she hated it but the lying liar loved every minute of it. It's how the narcissist rolls.
If you want to be a celebrity you've got to take what comes with it. Paparazzi is part of the package. Don't like it? Choose a different career. Jon did.
Drunk tweeting is always an inspiration. What happened to #happysummer? What a fool to engage with strangers on the internet.
Orangecoaster1
I've been on more sets than you have.
Neener neener. How many sets more? How do you know how many sets anybody here has been on?
I doubt you even leave your house. Wacko.
So it seems that there is truth to the ROL story that Steve quit this week. Apparently his job was to protect her from HERSELF . She is coming apart. I fear for those kids
I think with Steve now gone Kate is going to have several "pink wig"/Britney moments. Hopefully someone is watching out for the kids safety. And Milo if you're reading here, it wasn't Jon or Robert who ruined Kate (and her career). It was Kate who ruined Kate, plain and simple!!! Maybe you should man (?) up and tell Kate what she really needs to hear instead of what she wants to hear (therapy, lots and lots of therapy!!!).
stxmom @stxmom 17m
@Kateplusmy8 glad to see you speaking out about a crazy idiot fool trying to profit off your private thoughts.
Here is an example of what was being discussed today about the sheeple's lack of any kind of critical thinking ability. They just can't apply logic to this. If these were Kate's private thoughts and she wrote them down, fine...but if she regarded them as private, then she should have kept them locked in a box somewhere and not have put them in the trash where anyone could have retrieved them and they no longer would have been private, but public.
And stxmom, I highly doubt that Robert is living high on the hog from the huge profits he's making from this book. Think, dummkopf.
"That stolen info is embellished by money hungry low life's... Who have no hope of 'succeeding' any other way!"
Did TFW just call Robert and Jon "low life's?" Why the apostrophe,
Miss Grammar Expert? And calling the father of your children a
"low life" on a public forum is pretty much a low life move on your
part, heifer.
Since now she needs a "new" boyfriend because Stevie hit the road.
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I wonder if Grow-A-Boyfriend has deserted her, too, or if he's been deflated.
Where's the Irish Creeper?
I had seen her twitter tirade earlier tonight, and just went back to see if she had done any more incrimination of herself....and her twitter tirade is not showing up for me...anyone else seeing that?
The only tweet is the one about kids not following rules, and the faker being harassed.
Holy crap! So it's a FACT that the info was handed to Robert? How does she know this? Was there a picture because if there is no picture it didn't happen
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 1h
@Kateplusmy8 In hindsight...maybe a restraining order was needed 4 a couple of losers who made it their goal 2ruin/hurt U....
Wait a minute. Awhile back Milo asserted that Kate did put a restraining order on Jon. She probably deleted it, but I remember that's exactly what she claimed because she knew everything.
Sue great article! I forgot about the Does LOL someone needs to ask her how they fit into the stolen handed embellished info
MsGoody2Shoes21 @msgoody2shoes21 2h
@kateplusmy8 Stay strong Kate. I'm still in your corner.
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That is sooo comforting-(Not)
Looks like one of the kids finally poured Kate into bed. She stopped tweeting.
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 · 2m
@MiloandJack don't forget..That stolen info is embellished by money hungry low life's... Who have no hope of 'succeeding' any other way!
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As opposed to the money hungry fame whore who pimps out her kids every chance she gets because she has no hope of 'succeding' any other way.
Sue Buddy - Your article was great.
High Sodium Content said... 28
Looks like one of the kids finally poured Kate into bed. She stopped tweeting.
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Or she passed out.
Here is an example of what was being discussed today about the sheeple's lack of any kind of critical thinking ability. They just can't apply logic to this.
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Today was a perfect example of all that.
I mean she just admitted that info was hers. Oops. Now she's claiming she had a stalker for 18 months yet never bothers to actually take care of it like an adult and file a restraining order? Then insists Jon had something to do with it yet what was that whole lawsuit about and what happened to it?
None of her story adds up whatsoever but they won't stop and just think about it for two seconds to realize it. It's incredible.
That is sooo comforting-(Not)
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LOL! MsGoody is one of the last people I would want in my corner. I'd get out of that corner so fast that my head would spin Exorcist-style!
Localyocul said... 26
Sue great article! I forgot about the Does LOL someone needs to ask her how they fit into the stolen handed embellished info
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I just want to know why the Does are still tweeting rather than sailing Long Island Sound on that yacht they all purchased with their settlement money.
Good job, Sue!
To follow (a person) persistently, with or without attempts to evade detection; as, the paparazzi stalk celebrities to get candid photographs; obsessed fans may stalk their favorite movie stars.
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That's not what PA law says.
If you want to be a celebrity you've got to take what comes with it. Paparazzi is part of the package. Don't like it? Choose a different career. Jon did.
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Exactly. In that Larry King interview, Kate said that they put their family out there, so basically it is everyone's business. You put your family on display. Then you deal with whatever comes your way. You can't pick and choose. Celebrity-ism doesn't work that way.
Sherry Baby said... 39
Excuse me-(LOL)- you don't find a woman or man-(Milo) who is obsessed with you and your kids and a crazy man hater-(Msgoody) comforting?
So, TFW just admitted that to her, success in life is money, fame and all the stuff it can get you. Not working at a decent job, having a loving and supportive family, great friends, etc. Only the tangible things in life define success for her. That admission makes me very sad for her kids.
If TFW had a stalker for 18 months, and kept leaving her children
at the house, while she galavanted around the country with her
personal bodyguard, then she is a horrible, irresponsible mother.
Care to amend that comment, Supermom?
She's playing fast and loose with the truth, and now there are many,
many more eyes watching and ears listening. Keep tweeting, TFW.
None of her story adds up whatsoever but they won't stop and just think about it for two seconds to realize it. It's incredible.
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The bottom line for the sheeple...you can't apply logic when there is none.
Did TFW just call Robert and Jon "low life's?" Why the apostrophe,
Miss Grammar Expert?
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Yep. Looks like it. She didn't say "a money hungry low life," which would most likely mean Robert. She made it plural, meaning both of them.
As for the grammar mistake, looks like she's been reading Zig's tweets and blogs too much!
Wait a minute. Awhile back Milo asserted that Kate did put a restraining order on Jon. She probably deleted it, but I remember that's exactly what she claimed because she knew everything.
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She absolutely did say that Kate had a restraining order on Jon. I remember her also saying that Jon stole groceries from Kate's kitchen.
So what is it, Milo? Did you make up all that about the restraining order? It certainly sounds like it. Does anyone else remember that tweet? Is it still there?
Wait a minute. Awhile back Milo asserted that Kate did put a restraining order on Jon. She probably deleted it, but I remember that's exactly what she claimed because she knew everything.
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Yes, she did. Then when she got called out on it, she deleted it, and tried a different explanation. Got these from comments on an old thread here, dated 6/26/13.
Her original tweet:
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 4h
@RealZiggyFlo @Kateplusmy8 We know fr pap pics that he brought numerous girlfriends 2the house...eventually led 2restraining order N place.
Then she gets called out, and she starts backtracking.
teresa darienzo @popems42 3h
@MiloandJack @RealZiggyFlo @Kateplusmy8 Milo you need to get your facts straight, NEVER was there restraining order. No disrespect just fact
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 3m
@popems42 @RealZiggyFlo @Kateplusmy8 A reliable source shared that...if I was incorrect N saying it...I would certainly apologize.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 5m
@summerdowling87 @popems42 @RealZiggyFlo No...not talking abt that incident. I will just defer any further comment on this. I assumed ...
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 3m
@summerdowling87 @popems42 @RealZiggyFlo ...it was fact when info was given...I will stand down on this til I get it confirmed.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 2m
@popems42 @summerdowling87 @RealZiggyFlo Hey..I never would want 2tweet or say something deliberately inaccurate! I realize this is serious.
@popems42 @RealZiggyFlo @Kateplusmy8 It is obvious though he has not been allowed on property...in the house 4quite some time!
Meagler said... 29
I had seen her twitter tirade earlier tonight, and just went back to see if she had done any more incrimination of herself....and her twitter tirade is not showing up for me...anyone else seeing that?
The only tweet is the one about kids not following rules, and the faker being harassed.
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The majority of the tweets were replies. Make sure you click on "Tweets and replies"; you will see /with-replies at the end of the twitter URL.
It's sad that K's fans are encouraging her in her twitter tirades. I do think she's drunk. Not an excuse, but a reason for her intemperate and counter-productive behavior.
BTW, I thought she was referring to Robert and his time working for a tabloid when she tweeted about a "stalker". Not quite the same thing, as Admin has pointed out.
I realize this is serious.
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Yes, stalking and retraining orders ARE serious matters. Which is why you don't throw those terms around without it really being the case.
**8 It is obvious though he has not been allowed on property
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"Allowed"? So two parents who are having difficulty getting along can't both mutually just AGREE that it's best that they each not go on the other parent's respective property? I doubt Kate is "allowed" at Jon's place either but we never make a big deal about that.
So if Jon wasn't allowed on the property then how did he give Robert the info?
Here's a better Q what in the heck was Steve doing while Kate claims she was being stalked and harassed and her property being stolen where or where was her kiwi?
Milo's comment about the restraining order against Jon is probably in this archives of this blog because we discussed it when she said it. I absolutely remember her tweeting that.
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@Kateplusmy8: @MiloandJack Bottom Line: They stole my property and are making $ off embellished versions of it. I am NOT the 1 who should be ashamed!
ROL - TFW says that the "stolen information" Is embellished. Robert has offered the material for review. Take Robert up on his offer and see for yourself if they're embellished. In her twitter frenzy tonight she's basically admitted that information in the book is hers. Contrary to what she thinks, she should be very ashamed.
There's someone for everyone....unfortunately the someone for TFW is a psychiatrist.
Wow. She came right out again and said Jon "stole her property" and handed it over to Robert. At this point, it does not matter how Robert got the disks. It's all out there. And the property was jointly owned. It was Jon's to give away if he wanted to. Geez. She's the one who had the garage apartment cleaned out. If she had bothered to do it herself, maybe she would not have been so careless. But no. Ms. Lazy had someone else pitch Jon's stuff. What's really funny is that she was too freakin' lazy to back up the computer herself.
I hope the kids were all tucked away in their rooms tonight.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 3m
@summerdowling87 @popems42 @RealZiggyFlo ...it was fact when info was given...I will stand down on this til I get it confirmed.
So a fact is just a fact as time goes by? In Milo's screwed up head, when does a fact become not a fact?
Did she ever get it confirmed? If not, did she apologize?
TLC stinks said... 51
I wonder did Kate have Steve toss Jon's stuff as she had him toss fan letters and cards.
Would it be funny if Steve handed KK's stuff over to Robert.
There's someone for everyone....unfortunately the someone for TFW is a psychiatrist.
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One would think so, but I doubt that even he or she would know how to help Kate.
CJWhodunit @CJWhodunit 41m
@KatePlusMy8 {{{{{Hugs}}}} ♥️#PrayersGoingUp ♥️
Ugh. I mean ewe or eww. Can you imagine being hugged by a sheep? I need to get a shower.
Prayers for what, and for whom? That Kate finally shuts up? I think with tonight's tweeting pity party, she's going to need more than prayers if ROL or one of the tabs picks this up. She's really gone and put her foot in her mouth this time. I don't think that there's too much happy summer dancing going on in that house.
@MiloandJack ditches? Oh yes. Stalked for 18+ months, yes. Info from Trash? Nope. It was handed to him.... Fact.
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Whaaaaat!? Handed to him?? Gurl... turn that Franzia spout to the off position.
I thought Kate's failed and dropped lawsuits were about hacking. Now she's claiming the info was simply handed over?
Stalking. Ha. That's as laughable as the "hacking." She claimed Jon and Robert hacked every electrical device she owned but never reported it to the police. She filed and dropped a lawsuit 4 years later. Robert mentioned Kate calling the police on him and the other paps numerous, numerous times. All the police would do is shoosh them off private property if that's where they were. That's it. Again, we all know Kate is in VERY close contact with her local police department. They would have known how to help her if she was legitimately being stalked. Being caught in her many lies sucks for poor Katie, but it's not a crime. An employed pap is not stalking a public figure who made her life and the lives of her family our business.
Love your new article, Sue Buddy!
Prayers for what, and for whom?
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Prayers LOL. You're a filthy rich celebrity and boo hoo someone wrote a book about your diary. A diary you were obviously very careless with. Talk about first world problems.
Good point. Was it hacked or handed over? Because when you file a lawsuit and assert that it was hacked, that is supposed to be under penalty of perjury to the best of your knowledge. If it was just handed over she had an obligation to say that. She did not. She's deep into it now nothing is making any sense. The obsession with how the diary got WhoWhere why what just sounds paranoid at this point.
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 · 4m
@CarleneMarie_1 @MiloandJack some will do anything, sadly. At the expense of even their flesh and blood. Disgusting
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I have to agree with her here. (Hands mirror to TFW)
Oh, the irony.
Hacked... failed law suit. Now handed over .....Which one is it??
And now embellished.....
And Jon using his own flesh and blood to make money? TFW would NEVER do that. : )
At some point in your life, you have to reflect that you might be the problem, and take a look at your own choices. And make changes if you want a different outcome. Never going to happen and therein lies the problem.
As she said after argument with Tony D- "I just don't get it." As long as the problem is someone else, she will never accept any responsibility for her own bad behavior and choices. And we probably don't even know the half of it.
And I don't "hate" Kate. I simply don't like the impact her bad choices over many years have had on her kids. No way did all 8 kids want to film the special. Two eyes and two ears said everything, never mind any editing.
Why does Can-Do Kate need prayers and hugs? She's a scrappy
gal who picks herself up by her bootstraps again and again! It's all
for her 8 - count 'em, 8 - children!
And yet...last night's tweetfest wasn't about her children. She forgot
she's supposed to invoke their names (or at least their number) in
times like these. She's letting the mask slip much more often.
She is seething about Robert's book selling. You better believe
she reads every comment on those Radar articles. And let's
face it -- she's stuck with those kids in the house all summer,
and all the happy happy joy joy tweets in the world can't
convince me she enjoys their company. I bet she's counting
the minutes before they'll be out of her hair 8 hours a day.
And, sadly, they may be counting them, too.
Should be interesting to see what happens this weekend. If
the ewe inner circle keeps stroking her ego, and prying for
more details, she's bound to give them what they want. And
that positive attention -- albeit from total strangers -- must be
tempting about now. Especially if Steve is actually out of the
picture.
Hooooboy. When K opens her eyes this mornin with her head achin' and poundin' , you think she will cring and regret her twitter tirade last night ?
No.
Don't take it out on the kids. :(
Just watching a "Supernanny" episode on DVR, and the divorced
mom whose kids were having behavioral issues said these words:
"I would stay to any divorced couple, take a look at the relationship
that you have with your ex, and really evaluate how that could be
effecting your children. Because it's a lot more powerful than you
could ever imagine."
ok, guilty confession. I load this thread before I get on the metro, instead of playing textric * or whatever it is called)
Everyday...so, MILO?
keep your texts a comin', they amuse me
bwahahahah
franky
chef, my own opinion is that it was Steve who threw out Jon's stuff. It could have been Jamie, but it was night and it was raining so I would think Jamie would balk (I would). It was the same night that Robert was helping Jon move out, right?; when Robert went back to get the stuff in the trash?
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 · 4m
@CarleneMarie_1 @MiloandJack some will do anything, sadly. At the expense of even their flesh and blood. Disgusting
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baha! is that POS's tweet???
Classic narcissistic mirroring! Freudian slip? Oh that is rich!
I think Robert got Jon's stuff from.the trash and I would, if I were Robert and he's Jon's friend, ask him if he wants any of the stuff and Jon said no, so Robert decided to comb through the trash that Jon did not want. That's how I think it went down. Whether he went to Jon later and told him what he found, that I cannot guess.
I hope this weekend is like her manic phase last weekend
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Looks like she didn't disappoint
Will robert publish the police report now? Hmmm
I got the perfect song or KK when I heard it I thought of her.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PL3oelKBtw8&feature=youtu.be
TLC stinks said... 68
So it could've been her BFF or her MBFF-(married best fried 4evea) I woner which on would pi$$ her off more?
The fans are showing their support to TFW by leaving comments
on every single one of Radar's articles. Then last night we witnessed
the fans looping TFW in on their feelings about the articles, to which
she eagerly responded.
What does Radar learn from this? That the fans and the "haterz"
read these negative articles. Which will lead to many more.
Way to help, sheep! Surely they graduated at the"baaa-tom"
of their classes.
She has totally convinced herself that SHE didn't throw out the diaries. She can't own up to any "small mistakes" she's made, you think she'll cop to THIS one? Now her explanations are getting more and more out there. Sociopath
She has totally convinced herself that SHE didn't throw out the diaries. She can't own up to any "small mistakes" she's made, you think she'll cop to THIS one? Now her explanations are getting more and more out there. Sociopath
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She has such a either or mindset. What's really fascinating I think is her comment that SHE is not the one who should be ashamed because those who shall not be named obtained her diaries in a super duper improper manner.
Ok, let's assume for argument's sake that there is something to be ashamed of about how those diaries were taken. Sure. But that does not then mean that she is absolved of shame for the diary's content. It's not an inverse relationship. I don't understand why she and her sheeple are so incapable of understanding that one has nothing to do with the other.
Let me use an example. Say someone was going to steal your T.V. and broke into your house. In so doing, they discovered you in your house cheating on your spouse. Yes it's awful that they broke into your house, but that doesn't make it any less awful that you were caught cheating on your spouse just because they were trying to steal something when they caught you doing so.
Vanessa said (76)
She has totally convinced herself that SHE didn't throw out the diaries.
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Of course she will never own up to that. If she threw them out, then she is responsible for the diaries being available to Robert. No way could she ever admit such a thing, even to herself. So, it had to be Jon. And her flock is right there, egging her on and telling her that of course she didn't do anything wrong. They are all sociopathic if you ask me. They honestly cannot comprehend that Kate could ever be the one to blame for anything. It's all Jon, then.
I remember reading a few months ago, a sheeple said that she blames Jon for ending the show. Why? Kate and the kids went right ahead with their own show. Kate even said that they never stopped filming. And it certainly wasn't Jon who ended K+8. That was all Kate's failure. It had nothing to do with Jon. But somehow, everything is always his fault. Of course, he drives them nuts because he simply ignores their existence. They want so badly for him to say something negative so they can attack him, but he can't be bothered by them. He just goes about his life, working, spending time with his kids. That irritates them more than anything he could possibly say. I wonders if he chuckles at their childish antics. Nah, they're probably not important enough for him to even bother reading what they write.
Thanks, guys, for reading and commenting on my article.
What a crazy night it was, and what's more astonishing is, this morning, in the light of day, her excuses sound even more ludicrous than they did last night.
She's Come Undone. I think the ROL articles have been like death by 1000 cuts.
KIAT, your comment (20) cracked me up. I was reading her tweets and thinking, is she really saying this stuff...really?
And her poor fans having to defend such gibberish so maybe, just maybe she'll tweet them a little x and a o.
Admin 77- No matter what she says, the insane stuff she wrote in her journals was nasty, mean, selfish, and insane.
Who celebrates someone losing multiple babies (miscarriage)? I think this says everything we need to know.
She has such a either or mindset. What's really fascinating I think is her comment that SHE is not the one who should be ashamed because those who shall not be named obtained her diaries in a super duper improper manner.
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'She has such a either or mindset. What's really fascinating I think is her comment that SHE is not the one who should be ashamed because those who shall not be named obtained her diaries in a super duper improper manner."
What we are all missing here is that she is the victim. Because, in her perspective, in which everything is about her, she is always the victim. Not the babies/toddlers that suffered repeated beatings.
At one time, I was very critical of Jon, if he was in any way involved with arranging for the files and emails to get to RH, for the purposes of publishing. Clearly, he was legally entitled to do that, if he chose. And, if Jon purposely put the drive or disks or whatever in the garbage on that dark and stormy night, as a cover, then, I don't think it is fair to say that TFW was careless with her diaries. At the time they were written, Jon was her husband and partner in fame.
As far as Jon goes, that was a very dark period in time--some of which were of his own doing, and some of which was TLC and TFW. I don't think that he is the same person as he was during that period. Time has passed, and he is, while still has personal issues, he is a very loving father. Unlike TFW, he has taken responsibility for his actions, and, has tried to keep it civil between them, for the sake of their children. I am happy to see that he is staying out of the spotlight, although, of course, time will tell. Hopefully, watching TFW suffer her own consequences for her mean self, will give him the validation that he needs that he has tried to do the right thing for his kids, and make amends as best he can.
As far as the kids go, I think that they will see things differently when they are adults, and start their own families. Unlike most dysfunctional families, they will not have to dig to find the skeletons in the family, or identify the family roles.
TFW is done and her career is dead. There is no rising from the ashes for her--the public has very limited appetite for child abusers. It isn't as if the world is losing a beloved figure--there are plenty of other cougar wannabes out there to take her place. Some of who have some actual talent, and don't have to exploit their children for fame and fortune.
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 · 4m
@CarleneMarie_1 @MiloandJack some will do anything, sadly. At the expense of even their flesh and blood. Disgusting.
@Kateplusmy8: @MiloandJack ditches? Oh yes. Stalked for 18+ months, yes. Info from Trash? Nope. It was handed to him.... Fact.
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More Katespeak? Not once does she say who did what to whom. Yes she implies it and we all know she's talking about Jon and Robert but if called on it she can claim she wasn't talking about them. Just a little FYI for TFW...even if Jon did hand everything over to Robert, the book is about you and you're not his flesh and blood. You kicked him out and threw his stuff out. Even if Jon left the discs in the apartment knowing you said you were throwing his stuff out and told Robert that they'd be in the trash (thus handing it to him), you still threw it out without going through it first. Predictable and stupid. But, but, but you gave someone else orders to throw out Jon's stuff? Even more stupid. As you're pointing the finger at Jon and Robert those three fingers are still pointing back at you. Although I've enjoyed the twitter fest, you need to step away because you're doing yourself more harm than good. Jon has remained silent and so should you. The more you tweet the greater the interest in what you're talking about. I'd bet that all of your fans have purchased a copy. P. Chow actually told Milo to read the book.
On another note, TFW completely ignored Milo with all her woe is me tweets about her mother but had a twitter convo last night with another fan about her father. Will Milo start in again about her mother now?
OT-I haven't been posting much, because I have been busy taking care of my grandson. He is adorable, and it is so much fun to watch my son and DIL grow into parents. He is at the stage when he wiggles with excitement when he sees me, and is actively interacting with his toys and family. I was unprepared for how much I adore him, and, as my divorce is now in progress, there is a lot of joy and healing for my family. I have him at least one day a week, often more, while his mom volunteers at the aquarium. Unlike TFW, she spends her me time cleaning the otter environment, hauling fish, and conducting tours. No spa for her!
Vanessa said @ 53
Oops, don't know what happened there. This is what I wanted to post
The Narcissist Blames You!
Written by Alexander Burgemeester on July 23, 2013 · 21 Comments
Narcissists are notorious for placing blame on other people and not on themselves. Even when they clearly and definitely did something wrong, they cannot- and will not- accept responsibility. They almost always deflect the blame elsewhere. Narcissists either ignore their contribution to the situation or insist that the other person (spouse, child, co-worker or etc.) made them do it. Narcissists know right from wrong, they just cannot allow something bad to be their fault. It is another manifestation of their supreme self-centeredness as well as a protection for their fragile ego. It is also a primitive method of avoiding external repercussions.
. And, if Jon purposely put the drive or disks or whatever in the garbage on that dark and stormy night, as a cover, then, I don't think it is fair to say that TFW was careless with her diaries.
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While it remains irrelevant to the point how the diaries got where, I totally disagree with this.
She was a public figure going through a very messy divorce. She has a diary detailing very damning information about her including child abuse. Even if Jon would never do such a thing, he was making new friends she really didn't know well and who is to say they wouldn't try to get it.
Get half a brain and start securing your private documents. This is just basic common sense. Especially when you are a celebrity. Especially when you are in the middle of a divorce.
Narcissist's ex sold to the tabloids her private letters to him about how upset she was over the breakdown of their marriage. It was very upsetting to their children when that ran in the rag mags. I'm not sure a rag mag would run such a thing in this day in age but they sure did back then. Even she admits she never should have put that in writing. Even that narcissist can take responsibility for their stupidity, why can't Kate?
While it remains irrelevant to the point how the diaries got where, I totally disagree with this.
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I agree admin. Your SOL if your bank account gets cleared out through your own negligence and by not protecting your personal info/pin #.
This is a teaching moment (there ya go WOS, blog about it!) for her and a lot of people
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 · 4m
@CarleneMarie_1 @MiloandJack some will do anything, sadly. At the expense of even their flesh and blood. Disgusting.
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Lets say Jon did do it okay.-(So what if he did he exposed a child abuser)-
She finds it disgusting that he would expose her for $$ and yet she doing the same thing to the kids via twitter her website and her K+8 which she makes money from sooo.
Secondly.
Kate you beat your flesh and blood the children that you held in your own body for months. Then you wrote it all down.
Soo Jon supposedly sold the journals yet you dropped the lawsuit against him why??
Face it you're the disgusting one here not Jon not the haters not the media it's you.
-(You beat your kids blame who you want but it all started with you)-
And, if Jon purposely put the drive or disks or whatever in the garbage on that dark and stormy night, as a cover, then, I don't think it is fair to say that TFW was careless with her diaries.
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Sure she was. She knew what was in those diaries. You either put them under lock and key if you want to keep them (for what reason, I don't know) or YOU YOURSELF destroy them. During a messy divorce, when she obviously didn't trust Jon, you don't put anything out there that he or someone else could get their hands on. In addition to being careless, she was very stupid and very naive.
I can see if Jon-(supposedly) exposed Kate writing about sweet loving tender moment between her and the kids.
But he or Robert exposed a child abuser who beat her own flesh.then sold that flesh for profit.
Vanessa said... 89
This is a teaching moment (there ya go WOS, blog about it!) for her and a lot of people stxmom @stxmom 17m
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@Kateplusmy8 glad to see you speaking out about a crazy idiot fool trying to profit off your private thoughts.
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lol. Right Vanessa. It's a fun with Dick and Jane teaching moment.
Silly sheep.
See Kate? See the cliff? See Kate grazing near the cliff?
Follow Kate. Follow her right over the edge. Then we'll never have to talk about those private thoughts.
She will be back on twitter later to crow about the wonderful 2nd breakfast she made for all those hungry kids who just love, love, love everything Kate. She'll be farting rainbows and shitting skittles because everything is just wonderful in Gosselinland. Last night didn't happen. You would think that with all the money Steve and TLC made off of her & the kids that someone would at least have the decency to call and tell her to zip it. Jamie? Deanna? Any one of her 2000K+ followers? Crickets. They're all too busy watching her implode. Maybe the six biggest fans should be telling her to step away, regroup and think before you tweet because that would help more than the "I've got your back" platitudes. Or are they secretly enjoying watching her melt (much like the flying monkeys and the castle guards).
Vanessa said....
I agree admin. Your SOL if your bank account gets cleared out through your own negligence and by not protecting your personal info/pin #.
This is a teaching moment (there ya go WOS, blog about it!) for her and a lot of people.
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I disagree that it doesn't matter how the info got to RH. If she hoisted herself on her own petard by throwing them in the trash, then, yes--she should have secured them.
But, if Jon was at all complicit--either by direct or indirect means, of them falling into RH's hands, then I disagree that this analogy applies. The argument that it was joint property, and he therefore had the right to do whatever he wanted---would that apply to him emptying joint bank accounts? Since she was New York bestselling author, wouldn't her diaries be considered an asset, to be determined at the time of the divorce? Do the married people here keep all of their passwords computers, email account and bank accounts secure from their partners?
I don't care either way, but, unless it really happened the way it was described by RH, I don't agree that she was any more lax than the millions of people who share everything with their partners. I am of the opinion that Jon was complicit in some way. But, as I said, he is a different person today, and except for some notable exceptions in the last year, has remained out of the limelight for many years. However, TFW's drunk tweeting kind of confirmed it for me. Alcohol is often a truth serum--if she was telling the truth that the diaries were legitimate, then i tend to believe that all of it was true, because she clearly lost her filter last night. But, I could be wrong--JMHO.
lol. Right Vanessa. It's a fun with Dick and Jane teaching moment.
Silly sheep.
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And these silly sheep are retweeting Kate's tweets. Talk about stupid. Just keep bringing up her tweets rather than letting the stupidity of her insane tweeting just blow over.
Gawd, but they are so darn dumb.
Someday soon, all of Kate's children will find out that their crazy childhood was not normal and their mother's actions were not to their benefit.
And her "rules" and military discipline was neurotic. Anal, and cruel. And they will have a basis for their anger at how they were treated, and how their father was treated.
Kate is her father, but now for the 8, there is no other parent there to protect the Gosselin children, Kate had her mom and her protective brother. Just employed strangers that come and go. And tattle tail Hannah.
If it was a failure, it was on the part of her crack security team and attorneys who should have been giving her protection. TFW is a lot of things, but she was very naive and unschooled.
Didn't Robert say that after Jon packed up and left the garage apartment he informed Kate what was left she could do with what she wanted? Did I imagine that? Because if that was the case, then Kate did not go through Jon's stuff to find the backed up copies; instead she ordered someone ( I think Steve) to pitch everything of Jon's. I "suspect" she may have been in a drunken rage that night. She has NO ONE to blame but HERSELF. She wanted to erase Jon that very night. She sure got hers in the end.
Ex Nurse said... 95
If she thinks Jon is responsible for releasing her journals again why did she drop her suit?-(remember it was for the kids safely)-
Robert warned her time and time again to just stfu he got tired of her bullying and bs-ing he did what he said he was going to do.
If it was Jon and his daddy's journals I don't think we would be in debate here about who's fault it was that the journals were released.
JMO of course.
If it was a failure, it was on the part of her crack security team and attorneys who should have been giving her protection.
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Maybe they were, only she wasn't listening.
Do the married people here keep all of their passwords computers, email account and bank accounts secure from their partners?
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I would certainly hope that if they are going through a divorce, that they would. She knew it would be messy. She knew that she was a celebrity, and that those things should have been kept private.
Now she says the discs were stolen?
She's lying as usual. She has to, she can't take responsibility for being careless. Mouth moving or talons texting, she's lying and she's a reckless liar. She thinks she's so high and mighty that nothing can bring her down. Unfortunately for her the truth prevails this time and it's on those discs. She's an abusive parent and no amount of deflection by crying 'stolen!' will change that.
Anyway I don't have any trouble seeing her in one of her fits of anger tossing Jon's stuff into the trash. We've seen how she 'cleans house' on more than one occasion. If it's of no use to her out it goes. I can picture her shoving his things into the garbage with cruel satisfaction. She does that with people too.
I keep all my passwords secure but my husband does not. Not sure why.
But we are not going through a divorce!
I was trying to figure out Kate's motive behind the tweeting last night. Maybe since her "big surprise" and happy happy news about the braces didn't actually get all of the love tweets about what a wonderful mother she is, she decided to pull out the pity card, hoping that one worked for her. I have never seen anyone who craves the attention that she does.
What a sad life, and the sheeple say that we're just jellus.
Chefsummer...thank you so much for Karma song, I am listening to it now.
Reminds me of N'Orleans, Marley and Summer...lol
Suebuddy, spot on!
franky
we all deserve Karma
Any tweets from the compound yet? Or is TFW too busy enjoying
summer? #PayNoAttentionToTheLowLifesBehingTheCurtain
the world saw how she cleaned the twins' room by throwing everything down the stairs (which may be why she's not allowed in it now). How is it so hard for the sheep to believe that everything Jon left behind went in the garbage by TFW's own hand?
He just goes about his life, working, spending time with his kids. That irritates them more than anything he could possibly say. I wonders if he chuckles at their childish antics. Nah, they're probably not important enough for him to even bother reading what they write. 79
I agree. I think this is part of what is driving the sheeple AND Katie crazy.
Layla, I agree with your thoughts that Jon not being on twitter and ignoring the sheeple is engaging to them. There is a really big world out there outside the interwebs! Some if the sheeple would benefit from turning off the computers and electronic devices and spending time outside with real people.
OT: Guardians of the Galaxy is a FUN movie! That and Chef are the two most fun movies I have seen this summer! The dh and the dd agree. Yes movies are expensive, but the two main theaters we go to for new releases have rewards cards and my ticket last night was free. And they have matinee pricing all day Tuesdays at Bowtie cinemas. And of course for films we can wait on, we go to the second run Byrd Theater. Saw A Million Ways to Die in the West and Spider Man 2 recently there. Enjoyed both of them, but glad I waited and saved money.
And the summer guilty pleasure Big Brother continues with surprises. THANK YOU the posters who recommended Hamster Watch.com, it's so fun!
Admin, thanks for this fun gathering place! Where we can talk about TFMJG and anything and everything!
Serendipity said... 106
I have never seen anyone who craves the attention that she does.
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Agreed. Pretty damn sad. Especially when there are 8 count 'em 8 kids over 10 years old, involved in her crazy quest for fame!!
Her kids should be off limits on her twitter.
We've seen how she 'cleans house' on more than one occasion. If it's of no use to her out it goes. I can picture her shoving his things into the garbage with cruel satisfaction. 104
Yep. Jon's moments from his father? Gone. The twins moments from their grandfather? Gone ( anyone remember dustilies?) Cleaning out the twins' bedroom? Everything must go. Jon's moved out? Any of his remaining stuff MUST GO!
Sadly, I have a feeling she has said the same things about Jon to the twins that she did to Milo last night. It's interesting that she tweeted the same way her uber hateful fans do...subtweets without mentioning names but being obvious as to whom they are referring.
I and everyone I'm sure have done things I regret or am ashamed of and would be mortified if they came out into public like this, but I could at least honestly say yes, I did that and it was not good and I regret it and I learned from it and that was then and this is now. Not her, she has NOTHING to be ashamed of. Yawn she said , oh they posted household rules that are necessary. She is so clueless and without insight it's frightening.
But, if Jon was at all complicit--either by direct or indirect means, of them falling into RH's hands, then I disagree that this analogy applies.
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But Jon wasn't complicit, directly OR indirectly. WOS was. She set the wheel in motion, it's ALL on her. She didn't keep her journals safe, she didn't go through the disks, it's BECAUSE of HER actions or lack thereof, that the box of treasures landed into someone else's hands. The analogy applies. She has no recourse, nothing to complain about.
Hoffman took a lie detector test and I believe his story is true. Jon was NOT involved
My analogy about draining the bank accounts was in reference to any Joe Shmo who unknowingly and NOT deliberately lets his personal info get into the wrong hands. You know,like online scams etc... you are responsible. She is responsible for not adequately protecting what was personal and financial infromation
It has been discussed for quite awhile how Robert got Kate's journals. In my opinion, I don't really care anymore how he got them. Kate dropped the lawsuit against him and Jon and that tells me that they were not obtained illegally.
The bigger issue is what was in those journals, and no matter what else she has said, she hasn't denied their authenticity. She cooked her own goose by dropping the lawsuits and not denying the authenticity of the journals. She doesn't have a leg to stand on.
Well, it looks like Matt, the PA guy flirting with Kate, has a "wife" who tweeted that he is deleting his account because he needs to spend more time with his family. If that doesn't have "catfish" written all over it, I don't know what does! LOL!
If it was a failure, it was on the part of her crack security team and attorneys who should have been giving her protection. TFW is a lot of things, but she was very
naive and unschooled.
What were they supposed to do to protect her that night? Not sure what you mean here. She had a juvenile temper tantrum all by her little ol'self. Ahe didn't realize or was informed until much much later. For every action, there is a reaction
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what were her
IF true, it looks like somebody's wifey read her hub's (the creepy fan) twitter account and doesn't like what she found. UH OH! lol
@CelebAttict
@Kateplusmy8 @MiloandJack You stay strong for your babies Kate..Things will always work out for the best when we stay proud..#strongmommy
@dawnray89
@CelebAttict @Kateplusmy8 your crazy lol makes me laugh how brainwashed you all are facts are facts wake up her children are scared for life
@CelebAttict
@dawnray89 @Kateplusmy8 this is his wife and im blocking you. I dont know why he is so crazy talking with some someone he doesnt know.
@CelebAttict
@dawnray89 @Kateplusmy8 he is deleting his tweeter. He needs to spend less time arguing with u people and more time with his family.
@CelebAttict
@lukebandit @MY_2BCOLLIES this his his wife and im packing. This tweeter crap has taken over his life. We dont have one. Im 9 months prego
@CelebAttict
@lukebandit @MY_2BCOLLIES and unless this account his deleted asap im gone with all 6 of MY babies today. Thank you whom ever you aee
@ConcernedChick
.@CelebAttict @Kateplusmy8 Hope this is the wife! If so, I agree!! And less time fawning over female reality stars. I wish you the best!
Ex Nurse, happy to hear that you're having time with your
grandbaby! Sounds like it's win-win for everyone -- you,
your son, DIL, grandson, and the otters at the aquarium.
Does your daughter-in-law actually volunteer without a
camera crew? That would be a real head-scratcher to TFW...
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Right Vanessa. It's a fun with Dick and
Jane teaching moment.
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Yes.
See how baby "jane" is a d*ck!
See baby "jane" RUN off at the mouth!
See how baby jane makes everyone run!
See baby jane hurt "Spot" bite "Spot" bite!
You would think that with all the money Steve and TLC made off of her & the kids that someone would at least have the decency to call and tell her to zip it. Jamie? Deanna? Any one of her 2000K+ followers? Crickets.
I wonder if someone actually did call and alert her to all she'd been saying since she so rudely left her tweeties hanging w/o saying thanks for the support and goodnite or goodbye. Either that or she passed out.
My impression of the computer situation is that the disks were backups from an older computer, which was either Kate's, or a shared one. It was said that the computer was used by the kids. I assume that TFW probably had a new computer, which may very well have been secured. But that doesn't effect the backups that predated that. I think she probably didn't understand the ramifications (why would she?) of the existing backups. Whether through her own ignorance, or if it slipped through the cracks of her attorney and her security team, I just don't think that this is deserving of universal condemnation.
chefsummer--the fact that the suit was dropped does not mean that it was without merit. It sure seemed to be outside the statute of limitations, and, since it was dropped from the original complaint, I think that confirms it. This is just my opinion--the facts are just too incomplete to know for sure. So, I respect the other perspectives, too. We all arrive at our own conclusions--sometimes they concur, and sometimes they don't.My opinion on this hasn't changed at all. What has changed is my opinion about the re-release of the book. If she had just taken the opportunity to return to civilian life when her career withered on the vine, I would probably feel differently. But, in view of her grasping to stay in the limelight, she is, IMO, fair game. And, besides, it is fun to see her skewered on national TV. Sharon Osbourne's gagging spoke for many people!
I don't think TFW knows for sure how Robert got her journal, contracts, etc and she's just guessing - kinda like the lawsuit.
Whether Robert was tipped off to a mother lode of trash being available the morning after the rainy nite, or Jon made disk copies and 'handed' them to him, or the two colluded to hack her computers (that ridiculous accusation makes me smh and chuckle), I think TFW is just throwing out theories hoping some part of what she's saying might possibly be true and that someone will believe it.
I think that's why she flip flopped last night, One time her accusation was they were "STOLEN" and the next they were "HANDED TO" him. I think she's confused/clueless about how he got everything and coupled with alcohol and some mania thrown in for good measure it resulted in her careless tweeting last nite.
Why doesn't a Robert just take the journals to handwriting experts to verify once and for all ALL the statements Kate made. She's dug such a deep hole this time there ain't no climbing out. Ahh, sweet karma.
Kate's braces-off cake is nothing to tweet about- twice in a row! It's a nice concept, but nothing more than a plain sheet cake, some frosting and a bit of decoration. I also thought those lines she drew on the 'original' tent b-day cake were crooked and lame. Now, I am only saying this because she thinks she's such so wonderful in the kitchen, although she did say on the special ( I think to pave the way for the Zorro fake descent) she's not a baker except for bread.But doesn't she claim wonderful traditional Xmas cinnamon buns, homemade donuts, breads for the garbage collectors, cookies galore to freeze for her #1 rated school lunches??
The song that keeps playing in my head as I read all this is Too Bad by Doug and the Slugs. Sorry, I don't know how to make a link.
'Too bad. So sad. You're not as smart as you thought you were in the first place.'
Carole, I disagree that she's confused. She knows it was SHE who "handed" the disks. It's the fact that she cannot help herself to lying and engaging that her LIES become confusing and contradictory.
Whether through her own ignorance, or if it slipped through the cracks of her attorney and her security team, I just don't think that this is deserving of universal condemnation.
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Again, disagree.
She is a celebrity and there was interest in her.
She wrote a very damning diary.
To protect herself, it is her responsibility to determine the location or locations of that diary, including any backups. The helpless computer illiterate damsel in distress is no excuse. Woman up and take care of your stuff. Know where it is, where the backups are, and ensure it's properly secured. Even someone who does not know much about computers should have enough intelligence to understand and ask about back ups and to open her mouth and ask where her diary is and how to best secure it. She apparently did not. In fact as someone else said and I agree, I don't think she even really knows how it got to Robert, that's how careless she was.
Another reason and perhaps even more important one was that she was going through a nasty divorce. That journal could have been used against her in court if Jon felt like it. You need to keep track of your things during a breakup.
Many other celebrities seem to manage to keep their private writings private. It's pretty rare this has happened before. Once in a blue moon some tapes or diaries turn up, but it's rare and it's almost always because the celeb was extremely careless. It has a level of carelessness on the order of the Sterling debacle.
If it was a failure, it was on the part of her crack security team and attorneys who should have been giving her protection.
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How do we know she even mentioned this diary to them though?
It's hardly her security team's fault if she told them oh there's nothing to worry about on my computers. It starts with her and we have no idea what she did or didn't tell them about her computers, so don't be so quick to blame them.
If you write a diary it's your responsibility to secure it properly, or don't write one at all. You don't get to blame it on your "team."
I think TFW is just throwing out theories hoping some part of what she's saying might possibly be true and that someone will believe it. 109
I think that Robert is telling the truth but Katie can never admit she made a mistake. She has thrown out a variety of theories trying to get a court (we know how that went) and now the public to believe one of them. At least she has her sheeple
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She has demonstrated over and over that she doesn't think things through except where grifting is concerned.
I disagree that it doesn't matter how the info got to RH. If she hoisted herself on her own petard by throwing them in the trash, then, yes--she should have secured them.
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I don't think you're getting what I'm saying. Let me be as clear as possible. She wrote about the child abuse, and I believe that child abuse happened. HOW that information got out does not change anything about that child abuse in any way. THAT'S the point. They're trying to discredit Jon as if that somehow makes the information IN the diaries better or okay. It's improper and irrelevant.
It DOESN'T matter how the diaries got out, except to her. That's really an issue for her to resolve with the people involved. It's irrelevant to anybody else and certainly irrelevant to the point of their contents. It doesn't change one darn thing about it. The Grapes of Wrath is still a wonderful story whether I stole the book to read it or bought it fair and square.
Are you guys assuming she hand wrote her journals? I assumed she typed them into their computer. She has to have her journal in order to copyright it, correct?
You don't get to blame it on your "team." 116
Unless you're Katie Irene, who never takes responsibility for anything and is supported by a few immature sycophants.
That's like saying "well, you didn't have the best lock in the world on your front door so the guy who broke in and ransacked the place shouldn't be charged with burglary."
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Bad analogy. She wrote that diary during marriage and half of it is Jon's. It's not a crime for a husband to do what he likes with joint property, even diaries. Don't like this joint property concept, don't get married. She was too busy trying to snag a doctor's son though to read up on what marriage would mean for anything she created during the marriage.
Thus, it is your responsibility to protect your joint property. As soon as he could have easily gone to the judge and asked I'm to de
Lots of women manage to protect themselves in a divorce including their personal writing. So too can she. In any case it's all a moot point since she dropped that whole lawsuit against him, never going through with proving her bizarre theory he was involved. Case closed.
This is sooo far from the same thing as saying you didn't lock your door so whatever happens is your fault.
I love how the sheeple call the stuff in the book her "personal thoughts". They weren't thoughts, you idiots, THEY WERE HER DEEDS! HER ACTIONS! She abused her children, her animals, her staff, her (insert what ever here).
Give your heads a shake. Stop trying to "Defleck". I don't care if someone broke into the McMansion and stole everything. The bottom line is: SHE DID THOSE THINGS AND WROTE THEM DOWN!
PJ
I love how the sheeple call the stuff in the book her "personal thoughts". They weren't thoughts, you idiots, THEY WERE HER DEEDS! HER ACTIONS! She abused her children, her animals, her staff, her (insert what ever here).
Give your heads a shake. Stop trying to "Defleck". I don't care if someone broke into the McMansion and stole everything. The bottom line is: SHE DID THOSE THINGS AND WROTE THEM DOWN!
PJ
Rhymes with Witch said... 118
At least she has her sheeple
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Yes, the sheeple she chooses to ignore when she doesn't think they're necessary.
And I think it's funny how they now proclaim their loyalties to her and they have her back...baa baa baa. A lot of good that'll do her now. She's standing in quicksand and all they can do is watch her sink.
I think I'll take a minute to wipe away the tears. Tears of joy, that is. I'm glad the lying liar is going down. She finally did herself in with that journal.
Formerly Duped said...
I also thought those lines she drew on the 'original' tent b-day cake were crooked and lame.
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I totally agree with you Formerly Duped! I saw how unprofessional they were going to look. Remember when she had her hands out straight side by side and she was trying to steady them. She was shaking. Made me wonder if was drinking right then, secretly. We were all thinking maybe instead of water in the water bottle that she wouldn't give Mady a drink out of was vodka. She could of had vodka mixed in with the water. She was such a vile witch to those kids at the CBS interview.
The professionally done cake didn't have pinpoint lines on the top of the circus cluster cake. It was a WIDE STRIP OF FONDANT! Without 2,000 lbs. of butter.
Oh, what a tangled twitter web kate may weave,
Once she tweets drunk and deceives.
Oh, this is rich. celebaddict responded to my tweet. I told him I would divorce him if he didn't stop tweeting all hours to women and minors. You have wife w/6 kids? w/special needs? And you do this?
He response is, he thinks I am a man who whines all the time. sob sob whine.
He is an idiot.
I believe ate was manic some, hitting the sauce and with Steve gone, the articles, the book, she went postal on twitter last night. It piled on her. I would hate to be in a store in line and she comes in having an excuse to break line because she was in a hurry and expect someone to bow down and say, please take my turn, lovely princess!
WOW! Can you imagine someone telling her no and going to the back of the line? With all of this going on, she is going to snap! She is going to hit someone, and go nuts. Then the cops come and can you imagine her mug shot? Where's Ted and Deanna and Steve when I need them. They all left me. They don't know how to help me anymore! That would be one mug shot that would be on every news show and on the internet.
I am not, in any way, defending TFW on how the journal got out there. I agree that, ultimately, she is responsible for what happened, whether through stupidity or naïveté. She has always abdicated her responsibilities to others, including the raising of those kids she wanted so badly. She was so busy masterminding the laundry and Jon's convos with the nannies, she missed the biggest thing of all. She deserves every bit of what is happening, and, it is well-deserved.
Are you guys assuming she hand wrote her journals? I assumed she typed them into their computer. She has to have her journal in order to copyright it, correct?
Not me. I'm going on the assumption she typed those things into her computer and/or iPhone and the backup disks of her journal/emails, etc are what Robert found in the trash. As for copyrighting, yes she'd have to have it in her possession to apply for the copyright.
113. moments = momentos. Damn autocorrect.
About Robert saying HE stalked kate. I went to kindle and looked it up in the book. There are 3 places that even mention the word Stalk or Stalked or Stalking. It is not true.
Throngs of media and paparazzi had already been stalking this family for two months before I arrived at the Gosselin home on Heffner Road in Lower Heidelberg Township, PA.
Hoffman, Robert (2014-06-21). KATE GOSSELIN: HOW SHE FOOLED THE WORLD - THE RISE AND FALL OF A REALITY TV QUEEN (Kindle Locations 157-159). . Kindle Edition.
So, when Pink tweeted that “Paparazzi stalking children should be illegal,” Kate had the absolute nerve to tweet this in response: @Pink I totally agree! My kids ( or any kids stalked) shouldn't even have a word (' P-ppl') for paparazzi or know they exist! Kate is the only one stalking her children. She is the one putting them at risk and constantly tweeting and posting photographs of them online to the world of strangers, stalkers and pedophiles.
Hoffman, Robert (2014-06-21). KATE GOSSELIN: HOW SHE FOOLED THE WORLD - THE RISE AND FALL OF A REALITY TV QUEEN (Kindle Locations 9958-9964). . Kindle Edition.
They were only there for a few months during the summer of 2009. After that, except on a few occasions, it was just the lone pap – Kate’s very own personal stalker – giving the illusion to Kate’s few remaining fans that she was still being followed and photographed. She did nothing, of course, to dispel the rumors that the paps had gone. She still spoke about how much she was being followed and how much she hated the paparazzi, even when they were no longer interested in her. Kate dreaded the day when she would leave her property along her quiet country road … alone . No paparazzo. Desperation mode had set in, and Kate realized that the media frenzy was over and she would soon be all alone with her eight children. And how was she going to spread her lies now that the interview circuit had all but closed its doors on her?
Hoffman, Robert (2014-06-21). KATE GOSSELIN: HOW SHE FOOLED THE WORLD - THE RISE AND FALL OF A REALITY TV QUEEN (Kindle Locations 12287-12293). . Kindle Edition.
Sorry for the double post. No idea how that happened.
Robert found a hard drive. I never once thought of her "journal" as being pen to paper. They were all electronic files. She can whine all she wants about them being "stolen" or "handed over", but I believe Robert when he says everything he found was on the curb. Anybody here believe anything she says? Yeah, I thought so.
AutieAnn, here. I'll pass you a tissue. Bwahahaha!
PJ
Typo of the day! I was reading some of the book reviews on
Amazon, and read this recent one-star gem:
"Poorly written and full of heresy. Nothing to back claims."
This woman surely meant to say "hearsay," which is information
that is heard from other people. But instead she said "heresy,"
which is an opinion or belief that does not coincide with traditional established or traditional theory. As in, thinking it's appropriate
to beat toddlers is heresy.
Can't wait for Mommy Dearest #2....(book)
Steve did not do very good protecting Krazy's security, part of security involves their public persona....Steve left her with a black eye. lol
"Everyone leaves me~~~~~" boohoo.
Some of Kate's journals were handwritten because they were reproduced in Multiple Blessings. she must have switched to the computer later on. I think she said she did not know how to use a PC at that time.Or maybe it was difficult to use a computer while 'laying' on bed-rest for 100 weeks.
chefsummer--the fact that the suit was dropped does not mean that it was without merit.
-(YOu could be right however when Kate a mother claims that she HAS to do this in-order to protect her children then.
She going on media tours slamming her ex-husband and accuse him of crimes. I find her so called merit laughable since she dropped the suite weeks later.
It sure seemed to be outside the statute of limitations,-(You make good points though)
You could be correct but I bet if this gives her media rounds she would sue again in a heart beat.
Anonymous said... 107
This is why I try to be good to people casue I don't want any bad karma coming my way.
Robert found a hard drive. 147
I believe he said he found a trash bag full of backup disks.
Yes, the sheeple she chooses to ignore when she doesn't think they're necessary.
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They probably call it "loyalty". I call it stupid for not learning from from experience. Peas in a pod.
Just an added thought to a comment up thread about how kate cleaned kids rooms by throwing things down the stairs:
I think that was dramatics for TV! TFW is a slob. She is not a manic, obsessive neat freak. Pics of her room (a mess)
Anyone remember the episode where she "white gloved" and criticized the cleaners that cleaned her house?? She wiped her hand across the DVD player with a ton if dust on it...and moved the hamper and there was dirt and dust behind it....THAT JUST PROVES THAT TFW DOESN'T CLEAN EITHER!
I think she DOES have a crazy temper though and would in a rage throw anyone's stuff out that was in HER way though.....like Jon's stuff to the curb.
Sharknado 2 is on! The Second One For the second time! Did you notice the homage to the classic Twilight Zone episode with William Shatner, Kelly Osbourne as the flight attendant, Robert Hays as the pilot (he was in the original Airplane! parody movie), Billy Ray Cyrus as the surgeon (he played a doctor in NYC in the series Doc). Oh my gosh, so many funny cameos, so many funny nods to famous movies and pop culture!
(Leslie)
If Kate thinks she was being stalked, why did she constantly go running by herself for over an hour numerous times on different country back roads. And in her article in the magazine where she gave an interview about running the marathron she said that she loved to run at dusk. If she truly felt stalked, she would not have behaved in that matter at all.
And excellent catch about Kate "forgetting" that her personal diary was HACKED! Hacked and it being handed over are two entirely different things.
(Leslie)
To follow-up my comment #157, just ask any woman who has truly been stalked if they would do behave the way that Kate did when she was running alone.
She also seemed to feel stalked while she was gets tans and getting her hair and nails done.
She didn't feel stalked while parking in fire lanes and getting speeding tickets or while she went to target and BBB.
Anonymous said... 157
(Leslie)
Right I mean if obert was laying in ditches for hours why would she run alone?
My Steve was on his scooter behind her while playing paparazzi.
Steve did not do very good protecting Krazy's security, part of security involves their public persona....Steve left her with a black eye. lol
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Oh gee. That's right. It's STEVE'S fault. lol. No wonder SHE dismissed him. What a moron. How dare he let anyone hack and steal and hurt her eye on June 22, 2009.
So, did TFW tweet today? Or did someone care enough about her
to give her a pair of mittens?
I'm still convinced there's a pre-school getaway in her future. One
she may never bring up until/unless someone spots her at an airport.
Anonymous said... 158
(Leslie)
To follow-up my comment #157, just ask any woman who has truly been stalked if they would do behave the way that Kate did when she was running alone.
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Amen. My sister is currently in my guest room with her car hidden in my garage because after a year of successfully avoiding her ex, he found her on Friday. The thought of her even going to the gas station with a stalker on her trail is frightening. -- oh, wait, when Kart went to the gas station, it was by appointment with a pap so she could pose for pictures. Yeah, she was 'stalked', alright, all the way to the bank.
FlimsyFlamsy said... 162
So, did TFW tweet today? Or did someone care enough about her to give her a pair of mittens?
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I'll bet she's still lying in bed with an ice bag on her head.
Dwindle (#163), so sorry to hear about your sister. It must infuriate
you to read TFW's casual use of the word "stalking." I hope there's
some sort of solution/resolution in sight for your sister.
TFW's misuse of the word stalking reminds me very much of her misuse of the word bullying.
Anything to make herself look like a victim.
I imagine an entitled celebrity whining about an obnoxious but harmless paparazzo must be hard to hear for those who legitimately do have a stalker or have been stalked.
Agree Mel, reminds me of the bullying thing. She doesn't have the first clue what bullying, or stalking, really is. She always paints a picture of such a poor me hard celebrity life, while she sits in her mansion. I don't think she realizes is extremely off putting but then it's Kate and there's little she realizes.
AuntieAnn said... 164
FlimsyFlamsy said... 162
So, did TFW tweet today? Or did someone care enough about her to give her a pair of mittens?
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I'll bet she's still lying in bed with an ice bag on her head.
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Maybe Milo lent kk Mr.LO man for the rest of the night and he took away her phone.
Dwindle - I'm so sorry about your sister's situation. I hope she can find a lasting safe solution soon. I cannot imagine how awful it must be to live constantly looking over your shoulder. My thoughts go out to her.
Ex Nurse said... 98
If it was a failure, it was on the part of her crack security team and attorneys who should have been giving her protection. TFW is a lot of things, but she was very naive and unschooled.
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I'm not sure I understand - do you mean that Rat Claws and her attorneys should have been present at the house and stopped her from throwing out the disks? How could they know she would be throwing them in the trash, and on what day she would do so?
And Kate naive? I'm scratching my head at that one. She is completely self-absorbed, which is why she so often says or does something that shows her true colors. That's not naive - that's being completely wrapped up in herself, aka narcisstic. Pathologically so.
She and she alone wrote those journals. She and she alone typed her thoughts onto a community property computer. She and she alone tossed those back up disks into the garbage, probably along with a bunch of other stuff that belonged to Jon, in her desire to remove every last trace of Jon from the house.
It is therefore on Kate, and Kate alone, for the results of her actions. My goodness, how far must one bend over to try to make an excuse for what this woman chooses willingly to do? She beat her kids. She abused the family dogs. She berated, belittled and abused her own husband. She turned away every single one of her family members. Should her security personnel have stepped in and stopped her from "naively" do those things?
Unschooled? Not hardly. She has a high school education, she obtained a nursing degree, and she did work in the nursing field. She was "schooled" enough to plan for multiples and market them and herself successfully to TLC. She certainly was "schooled" enough to grift for every single freebie in the book. Oh no, that "unschooled and naive" stuff does not fly.
Here's how you don't end up with the moniker of "disgusting excuse for a mother and human being." #1 - treat your loved ones like you love them. Don't beat your kids, yank them by the hair, or otherwise mistreat them for being children. #2 - Treat others as you would like to be treated. #3 - don't write a journal wherein you describe how despicable you are as a human being.
#4 - if you can't help but write about your despicable behavior, you might want to give some thought to how you will keep these nasty secrets --- secret!
You don't get to cry "oh, I'm just a little ole Midwestern gal, don't know much about this great big world, and I don't even know how computers work, much less back up discs. Oh my gosh, however did those nasty ole disks get in the garbage?! That Robert Hoffman must have some sort of mind meld on me!." No you do not.
She and she alone wrote those journals. She and she alone typed her thoughts onto a community property computer. She and she alone tossed those back up disks into the garbage, probably along with a bunch of other stuff that belonged to Jon, in her desire to remove every last trace of Jon from the house.
It is therefore on Kate, and Kate alone, for the results of her actions. My goodness, how far must one bend over to try to make an excuse for what this woman chooses willingly to do? She beat her kids. She abused the family dogs. She berated, belittled and abused her own husband. She turned away every single one of her family members. Should her security personnel have stepped in and stopped her from "naively" do those things?
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Amen. Time to take some personal responsibility. It's not getting your house robbed or getting raped. It's a diary in which you wrote about ABUSE.
Arguably, anyone who stumbled upon such egregious details of abuse had a moral obligation to disclose them. Even if it were their father who found them. Arguably, nobody has to apologize for how they obtained whatever when they contained something far worse. If you see a crime going on in a house and all you have to do is break down the door to step up and stop it, you do so. You don't worry about bursting onto someone's property. Robert was very clear the first thing he did was contact CPS.
Robert was very clear the first thing he did was contact CPS.
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I as watching Lisa Ling she did a special on cps workers in LA and I could believe how over worked.They are one case worker has 21 cases that's alot they're supposed to have they much work,
I bet it's like this in Philly as well-(just a guess) Also how do you question a scared toddler?
My nephew was 5 when I called CPS on his mother and he was uneasy while he was being questioned so.
I don't want to think of how M&C felt or the 6 little six if they went through the same process,
Dwindle, please tell your sister that I am praying for her. I am not for sure if this is true, but I heard that the FBI has a program for women that are stalked. They can get a new identity and a new life. If they don't have one, they need one.
Dang that crazy witch needs to be horsewhipped for daring to say that she is stalked by the paps. Stupid witch! When they all went away, she called Chris everyday to document her movements and split the proceeds, er, ill gotten gains with him.
What was it kate? 90-10? 75-25? 60-40?
but not for our hero, St. Jon of Pennsylvania.
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Jon's been so quiet it's hard to tell where he stands anymore in terms of his sainthood! I don't believe Jon had anything to do with it, given that Robert said he didn't, took a lie dictator test, and Kate dropped her lawsuit where she was ranting about that. So Jon doesn't figure into the equation for me. Until we have some kind of proof otherwise I don't understand why we're going around in circles about it. But of course that's exactly what Kate wants, deflect on Jon so no one has to talk about how she's a CHILD ABUSER. I won't play.
chefsummer said... 168
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Whatever it is, it's been "Silence of the Twitter" today for Kate. About time too. She should have shut it down about two years ago. It must burn her ass that Jon took a higher road by doing that very thing. *snort*
Twitter silence from TFW usually means the kids are gone, or she's
away. I can't factor in her regretting Friday night's comments, because
at this point, I truly believe she's incapable of regret. I mean, she
chronicled physical abuse of her own children, and managed to spin
herself as the victim.
I really cannot fathom why a person would be compelled to document their child/animal abuse. It's bad enough that you do it, but then you have the need to write about it. Who does that?
It certainly adds to the layers of crazy in that woman.
I agree the kids must be gone this weekend. I doubt she would stop tweeting because she was ADVISED to step back from her accusations unless the advice came from Steve. If that were the case, the guy is still in her life. He may not be employed by her any longer, but that does not mean there is no contact.
Not a peep out of her since her last tweet. She was tweeting so fast on some of the tweets they were seconds apart! Either she is gone, it is Jon's weekend or someone called her and told her she better stop it before she gets sued. Or maybe Jon heard or saw the tweets and texted her to stop it and told her he was going to sue her for libel.
I hope he shut her down. Please Jon keep doing what you are doing. You're doing great. I know it is hard when she runs her mouth. Just keep staying under the radar, taking care of the kids, getting more time with Colin, and all the kids, getting them therapy and keep on trucking on the high road.
Also, according to the source, on ROL, if Steve is not having any more contact with her, what about SK8 Productions? LLC. Was this set up for the Growing Up Gosselins tv shows? It would of been so funny if someone would of thought of it long ago to get the domain rights to GUG and copyright it. haha. She would of exploded if she found that out! Like, someone naming one of their boys, Aaden. She named some of her kids after the McCauley's babies didn't she?
Read where a guy squatted in AOL offices for 2 months and they didn't even know he was there and he was working night and day trying to develop a start up company. He had clothes, food, showered in the gym. He was caught by a manager. But the funny thing he had a name for it and at the last minute changed it to Claco.
One of the posters that posted on the article said, I have been @Claco for years. They were teasing him for not getting the domain rights and copyrighting it. He was using his middle initial C and his last name Laco.
Dwindle, I hope your sister remains safe. You, too.
Every time Kate doesn't tweet does that mean the kids are gone? Four of them were with Jon last weekend, there was a picture. Where would they all be this weekend that they'd be gone?
Dwindle, Please let me add my concern and best wishes fro your sister. What a worry!
Perhaps, Kate & kids went on vacation, loose lips Milo, blabbed about Kate should be at the beach, last week. Maybe that is where Kate & kids are. Last year, Milo & Kate hinted around about the beach and , then kate went with kids. Kate did the silent twitter thing.
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What televised tup party has she NOT had a bakery cake on display? She has never made any effort to bake their cake when on TV!
Maybe TLC encouraged to make the cake to make her look like she "does it all on her own" knowing she has no clue how to make a cake tent. (there was no plans for the arc, so she looked foolish thinking this would even come close to working.) Could have been another slam at TFW that she does not do much of anything without help once the cameras are rolling. And the ordered cake was ordered plenty of time in advance. We all know she does everything for her kids...LOL
am far behind, Did I MISS SOMETHING?
thought not
franky
This tweet really made me sick.
Those teething days..... Difficult indeed.Hang in there..Frozen teething rings,Motrin,natural teething tabs&patience!
I tweeted to her patience? You had patience with Potty Training for 6 babies in 5 days? What a liar!
Yes, kate. It was difficult indeed for those babies to learn potty training with a time limit of 5 days. Hang in there, tup boy, while she picked you up by the hair of your head, frozen with fear while you were being beaten into your crib.
No Motrin for pain, no natural nurturing from your mother and not an ounce of patience either.
Those poor babies! And you Documented it! Copyrighted it. I believe she had to have one of those hard drives to have a copy of the Mommy Journals to copyright it. I am pretty sure Robert didn't email her a copy of it for her to be able to do that. First she said Robert and Jon hacked into her computer. How would of they done that? Did Robert and Jon come to the compound when she was gone? The nanny would have to report that to the fuhrer. Or did they do it by remote access. No. I believe Robert. He heard kate threaten Jon that anything he left was going in the trash. She ordered her staff to clean everything out of that apt. and put it in the trash and take it to the road. Robert went back and saw it in there, including the box, receipt of the stimulating ovaries shots that she got overseas in Karen Kaufman's name.
Either the person who actually threw them out may have never saw them, or thought it was music burnt on a CD. But the fuhrer said everything had to go! I would have loved for it to have been Steve! How Ironic!
My son has several cube sized back ups for his and his wife's computer things. This is how you do business. Back it up and get it separate from your computer just in case your computer is compromised and you won't have to bang your head or kick yourself for days on end! And oh, not counting the tears!
TLC stinks said... 178
I agree the kids must be gone this weekend. I doubt she would stop tweeting because she was ADVISED to step back from her accusations unless the advice came from Steve. If that were the case, the guy is still in her life. He may not be employed by her any longer, but that does not mean there is no contact.
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I agree, someone told her to stop her tweeting. Maybe Steve told her to stop by email, or her fans who have access to DM told her to stop. I know Milo mentioned in one tweet that no response was the best thing to do. Who knows, maybe her tweens told her it was crazy for her to respond. Sad.
Dmasy said... 180
Dwindle, I hope your sister remains safe. You, too.
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Likewise, hope you and your sister are okay. No one should have to live like that!
Where would they all be this weekend that they'd be gone?
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Various places? ;-)
It doesn't really matter where they are, out with friends, sleepovers, activities, with their father. As long as Kate permits them to leave the house, her days of these children swarming around her while she tweets how happy-happy she and her besties are, are over.
Almost 14 year old girls are probably never going to be home on the weekend unless forced to be home. Or if they are they certainly aren't hanging out with "Mommy." They're with friends or watching TV or texting or in their rooms or in the pool. And younger siblings tend to start doing all that stuff faster because they see their older siblings do it and want to emulate them.
Time is not on TFW's side. She doesn't appear to have any hobbies or friends who live in the state, or a job, I don't know what she's going to do with herself now.
I still can't get over Beth and Kate's 'friendship." RH mentioned their rift was over the book. Doesn't Taliah go to LCDS/?That must be awkward. She was the twins' BFF Possibly Beth saw only some or part of certain journal entries or Kate told her a watered-down version of events. RH also mentioned he couldn't understand why Beth, obviously a good and religious woman, would vote Kate for Mother of the Year and participate in these lies, and never lodge a complaint that he knows of, since she truly loved the kids and J + K..That will remain a mystery. Who is the G kids' guardian now?
I mean, she chronicled physical abuse of her own children, and managed to spin herself as the victim.
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But Flimsy you don't get it, it WAS their fault. They were two years old. They should have known better! They could have tried harder! Damn it why doesn't anyone understand that? They were eight against one. She was outnumbered. She HAD to beat them!!!!
Seriously, the woman is very disturbed. Enter at your own risk if you try to get inside her head. Or arm yourself.
(Leslie)
It's bad enough that you do it, but then you have the need to write about it. Who does that?
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I honestly think Kate never thought what she wrote was child abuse. Of course Kate wrote that she was afraid that she may hurt one of the kids, but I don't think she knew then or now how bad her abuse was/is. I think she was just afraid of her anger and wrote her thoughts down. She is clueless to how she acts and how it affects her kids or others to this day. And we see that she has not made any progress to this day.
Lukebandit, I thought Kate's receipt for the drugs was K. Kaufman. Did Robert write in his new book that the K. stood for Karen?
Formerly Duped said... 190
I still can't get over Beth and Kate's 'friendship." RH mentioned their rift was over the book. Doesn't Taliah go to LCDS/?That must be awkward. She was the twins' BFF Possibly Beth saw only some or part of certain journal entries or Kate told her a watered-down version of events. RH also mentioned he couldn't understand why Beth, obviously a good and religious woman, would vote Kate for Mother of the Year and participate in these lies, and never lodge a complaint that he knows of, since she truly loved the kids and J + K..That will remain a mystery. Who is the G kids' guardian now?
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I think the book Beth authored and wrote, became an issue, once Kate included Jon as an author, so she could get two thirds of profit, as opposed to half the profits originally agreed upon. Leave it to Kate.
Beth and her husband provided plenty of babysitting for J & K, as well as constant support, but sometimes when you get totally screwed over, you say enough is enough. Kate acted like she wrote the book by herself, when we know this is not true.
I say good for Beth for finally removing herself from this toxic, selfish, me-me-me situation. I can only imagine how draining Kate was to deal with (No one makes money off our family but us). Gratitude is not one of Kate's strong suites. Which explains why family, friends, and anyone other than her "staff" are still around. Jamie probably still getting paid for her "help" during filming, but am not sure why she is still around after the SUV episodes. (Remember- Kate referred to Jamie and Ashley as "paid help," when they both had enough of her.)
Mel said... 177
I really cannot fathom why a person would be compelled to document their child/animal abuse. It's bad enough that you do it, but then you have the need to write about it. Who does that?
It certainly adds to the layers of crazy in that woman.
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Mel, I will never understand this either.
I totally get that having six 2 yr. olds + 4 yr. old twins was unbelievably stressful, I don't think anyone denies that. However, how Kate decided to handle this stress was wrong on every level. She wrote these incidents down, often justifing her behavior by saying the child treated her terribly and needed to apologize to her. She wrote as if the toddlers had the reasoning skills and bodily function control of an adult and should know better. Sometimes she did pray to God to stop hurting the children, but she gets gets -0 points or sympathy from me for that. Her prayers should have been to God to help her find a solution to diffuse the situations that triggered her abusive outbursts. She could have sought professional help and meds. She said in her letter to her Medicaid appeal judge that help from college girls was too infrequent to consider. Hey, an infrequent break is better than no break. She could have finally admitted to herself that 4 hour daily "naps" were completely unreasonable, and only invited the wide awake kids to get into mischief in their rooms.
The worst part of all this is that Robert is telling us that nothing really has changed. The sheeple are sending virtual hugs and prayers to a woman who just recently tried to shove her son's face into dog feces. Who locked another boy outside in the freezing cold with no coat. Forcefully spanked 2 boys right in the driveway in front of the others for saying they wanted to stay longer at their Dad's house. Robert also says there's much more to the story about the 2 tups who were expelled. He said it's awful, but he was sworn to secrecy not to reveal it. He has made it very clear that these kids are still being abused to this day. Kate is not taking action to defend herself because she can't. A lawsuit will only bring more of her awful deeds out. It's a complete joke how the sheeple go trolling twitter trying to sniff out child abuse like truffle detecting pigs. When they find a mere whiff of what they think looks like abuse, they go ballistic. Meanwhile Kate behavior has been outed, docmented and Kate's been busted. For that, they send her a lil virtual prayer and hug. Disgusting and hypocritical, all of them.
Ladies, thank you soo much for your well wishes for my sister. We spent the weekend researching the laws in our state and the process for a protection order. But as one wise woman recently told me, sometimes a protection order can inflame the situation.
She is going home soon and has arranged a series of overnight guests for the week. During the day, she will be on walkie talkie with the woman who lives below her: a retired police officer who is really stepping forward with offers to help!!
He still has a set of keys to her car. That is a worry, so is the possibility of vandalism of her car. Yeah, Kart, you have it so rough. (flicks imaginary tear off my cheek...)
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 189
I agree. And I hope all the kids are experiencing what normal kids do, hanging out with friends, etc. instead of vying for their "wonderful" mother's attention 24/7.
I just don't think that every time Kate is silent on Twitter her kids are all away. She's been Twitter silence many times for days and days on end and the kids couldn't have all been away all that time.
Formerly Duped said... 190
I still can't get over Beth and Kate's 'friendship." RH mentioned their rift was over the book.
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Kate used Beth. Kate needed help to write the first book. My theory is that once the book was done, Kate was done with Beth. There was no way in hell Kate was going to share that book tour. At that point Jon and Kate were making enough of their own money that they didn't need Bob and Beth's generosity anymore. I think that Kate approached Beth about putting Jon's name on the book, thus cutting into Beth's profit, hoping Beth would get angry and Beth would be the one to sever the friendship. Beth seems like the type of person who probably said "ok, no problem." At that point, Kate probably just ceased contact with them like they did to Kevin and Jodi. Jodi had said they told Jon and Kate they didn't want any money and to just forget about it, let's move on. After that neither Jon nor Kate would return their phone calls. Froze out. All IMO, of course.
(Leslie)
Admin, your comments in #189 are so right and on point. And I think Kate is fearful her kids do not need her like they did years ago. In fact, she stated in the last special such thoughts when she was talking about how they can now pour their own cereal (at ten yrs. old!!)
In just a few years, again in a short few years, she will have eight teenagers hunkered down in their bedrooms with FULL ACCESS to the internet googling all the thousands of articles of what a bitch she is and what the world really thinks of her. Kate will down play it and tell them that they are just a few haters of her because of jealousy. And that a lot of the negativity is because of their father. The kids may initially believe this but further research will reveal that the vast majority of the country vastly dislikes their mother (and father) because of her exploitation of them. All of their lives they thought their family was most admired and it will be a very sad day when the kids find out otherwise. They will google themselves and hell will break out. They will see many, many articles written by professionals and see clips of many night time host mocking the Gosselins. They will read Robert's book and read Kate's lawsuit against Jon. They will see Tony's comments and many other influential people's comments (The View, The Talk, Anderson, Andy on Bravo, etc) about their mother. When they discover this, I really wonder how it will affect them and particularly their adolescence years. And will they NOT want their mother tweeting about them anymore. Poor Schmoopy!
And Kate may not let the tups get on the internet when they turn teenagers but Mady and Cara certainly will be on the internet in a few years. That is all that is needed. They will show and tell the tups what has been going on their entire lives.
I really cannot fathom why a person would be compelled to document their child/animal abuse. It's bad enough that you do it, but then you have the need to write about it. Who does that?
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Maybe someone who subconsciously feels guilty about it and putting it down in writing is the only way you can "confess" it -- a psychological therapeutic means to rid yourself of that guilt without actually having to reveal it to anyone.
For Kate it's always about money. I think those tweets were very revealing. It galls her that Robert and allegedly Jon are "profiting" from her journal. She has no shame as to what she wrote, just that someone, besides her, is making money off her words/property.
I just don't think that every time Kate is silent on Twitter her kids are all away. She's been Twitter silence many times for days and days on end and the kids couldn't have all been away all that time.
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When she's twitter silent usually it's because the kids are gone or she's getting her narcissistic feed elsewhere. Whether that's talking to Deanna, going to the spa, dreaming about Steve, who knows.
It is extremely rare she tweets when the kids are out and about. She discloses this info herself. She says all the time the kids are with her when she's tweeting. Her own words.
Though, they are getting much older, and it's completely plausible they are away a heck of a lot.
Kate used Beth.
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Absolutely. She was a hanger on to an upper middle class family. At a certain point things were going so well at TLC suddenly she was making more money and having more VIP opportunities than Beth used to. She had no use for her anymore, and so she just looked for a convenient opportunity to drop her. That came with the dispute over the book, which I doubt was big enough to end a friendship over. But it came up at a good time.
Dwindle said...
But as one wise woman recently told me, sometimes a protection order can inflame the situation.
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As my sister's lawyer said, "Try holding up your restraining order and see if it stops a bullet."
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As my sister's lawyer said, "Try holding up your restraining order and see if it stops a bullet."
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Yes, but it does help a lot in terms of getting help there fast, and carries a lot of weight with places like schools and workplaces in terms of looking out for you and your kids.
We always tell people when you call 911 tell them you have a restraining order. It's sort of like a "VIP" to your 911 call. At least here, usually it's a 2 minute response time or less. He could still kill you in two minutes, but it's a lot shorter than most response times when you don't have a RO.
It's not foolproof but it's not a piece of paper either.
It is extremely rare she tweets when the kids are out and about. She discloses this info herself. She says all the time the kids are with her when she's tweeting. Her own words.
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It's very possible that my mind is going. LOL
I seem to remember times when Kate has been silent for a long time (other than an infrequent job) and she couldn't have been without the kids for all that time.
Lukebandit, I thought Kate's receipt for the drugs was K. Kaufman. Did Robert write in his new book that the K. stood for Karen?
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I thought it was Katie Kauffman!
I seem to remember times when Kate has been silent for a long time (other than an infrequent job) and she couldn't have been without the kids for all that time.
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She was silent for a very long time during Celebrity Apprentice and she was without her kids except for I think one visit, which if I'm not mistaken she tweeted about! lol. It is what it is.
We always tell people when you call 911 tell them you have a restraining order. It's sort of like a "VIP" to your 911 call. At least here, usually it's a 2 minute response time or less. He could still kill you in two minutes, but it's a lot shorter than most response times when you don't have a RO.
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If the order is violated, he could get some time behind bars. However, it's only a band-aid approach, just short-term. When he gets out, all hell can break loose. The need for revenge would be greater than before. Is it worth it? I don't know.
Jon is so talented! He sings too.
@bthAJ @bthAJ: Jon Gosselin from Jon and Kate + 8 singing "Me So Horny" by 2 Live Crew
It's interesting to look at one of her tweets from 2011:
"Yes but I'm not heartless or ugly.My approach&wording could use sum work..I admit"
It seems like back then she was much more willing to acknowledge her shortcomings. Now when confronted about her "approach" and "wording" when she speaks to the crew, she can't even acknowledge maybe she was a real bitch to them and could have written those rules more respectfully. It'd be easier to understand if she said, look it was rather difficult to have a crew in the house but that was no excuse for the way I spoke to them. I could have handled that better.
It was K. Kauffman addressed to her P.O. Box in Wyomissing.
This is a thought to ponder. Since Kate's personality is revenge at all costs for those she thinks have "done her wrong", if Steve really dumped her, do you think he should hide the bunny? I am not trying to start anything, just wondering because it seems Steve was her reason for living. And Kate does not take rejection well. With everything else crumbling down in her life when is she going to snap? In my opinion she is scary right now.
If the order is violated, he could get some time behind bars. However, it's only a band-aid approach, just short-term. When he gets out, all hell can break loose. The need for revenge would be greater than before. Is it worth it? I don't know.
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Well, they can last up to five years so that's a pretty big bandaid.
Just as a general rule it's not a good idea to not get a restraining order just because it might antagonize someone. If you're truly in danger, get one.
This is crazy. This video came up while I was on youtube. If you can stomach it, it is only a little over 3 minutes.
11 Reasons Explaining Kate Gosselin.
This was uploaded over 5 years ago.
Get your buckets, Extra Strength Tylenol, your BP meds ready.
http://youtu.be/Tq7gBZBPOHg
Still not a tweet from the deflecting, deceiving, lying, accusing
twitter teeter totter tangled web tweeter typer.
And we see that she has not made any progress to this day. 192
She not only refuses to get help, she refuses to admit she has any problems (that aren't someone else's fault). She relies on her 6 sheeple to bolster her image as super mom. It's sick.
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I would take the RO to local police, where currently residing. And have them on speed dial. Best wishes for your sister.
I would take the RO to local police, where currently residing.
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Yes. Make several copies and take them to anyplace you might frequent. Have a copy in your car glove compartment. Give a copy to the school, to your church, to your workplace, to relatives and close friends you spend time with.
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I still can't get over Beth and Kate's 'friendship." RH mentioned their rift was over the book.
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It's an assumption that ATE was the one that ended the friendship with Beth.
It could have been that BETH ended the relationship.
Kate is on record saying she and Beth holed up in a hotel room to write that book. If Beth READ the 'mommy's journal" (and was under legal contract to white-wash it, and co-author a book), then heck yea, as soon as that book was finished Beth dropped Ate like the child abuser she is. Perhaps a NDA was involved as well, we know how Kate loves those!
jcb
Still not a tweet from the deflecting, deceiving, lying, accusing
twitter teeter totter tangled web tweeter typer.
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She's been AWOL many times without tweeting for days. It means nothing.
That CelebAttict fellow...account wasn't deleted. It's still up there, and I really would bet the farm that it wasn't "the wife" on there. The tweeting style, usage, is exactly the same as his, if "he" really is a "he." That has catfishing all over it.
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