Thursday, July 3, 2014

Recap: Kate Plus 8: Sextuplets Turn 10 part 2: I hate Kate!

I love sports. I love them for many reasons, and one of them is every so often something really good and pure and genuine happens. Something that shows us something so wonderfully human and tangible. It makes the occasional stupid scandal forgettable, we forget about the millions of dollars going back and forth that sometimes taint the purity of the game, and it reminds us that we need professional recreation in our lives. Especially international events like this. It makes our lives fuller in any case, and certainly more fun.

One of these great moments happened this week during the phenomenal USA-Belgium World Cup game. As you probably heard, we lost. But we lost playing our absolute hearts out, sweat and blood and spit flying everywhere until the final seconds, which makes any loss that hard-fought just plain honorable.

So, we pretty much lost because some Belgian who must be about 15 years old named Kevin De Buryne scored an impossible goal late in the game, threading it through about four different defenders straight into the corner pocket. Not too long afterward the same guy had an assist for their second death-knell goal that won it.



Kevin looks remarkably like Prince Harry too, so predictably that was the perfect storm to set Twitter ablaze.

People are saying Prince Harry looks like Kevin De Bruyne on the Belgium team. I disagree. I think Kevin De Bruyne looks like Prince Harry.
— Eric Stonestreet (@ericstonestreet) July 1, 2014


Times like this Twitter is tolerable.

Anyway, turns out Harry's Doppelgänger is not just a prince but also a stand-up guy. Late in the game in what I think was extra time or almost, when all the guys out there must have been absolutely dead, Harry had a fantastic steal away from American Jermaine Jones. But while trying to kick it away, Harry accidentally kicked it straight up into Jermaine's face, absolutely pummeling him across the head.

You know those old cartoons where they get hit by a sledge hammer and then all these stars float around their head? That was pretty much Jermaine's face. He kind of fell to the ground in a heap. Jermaine just broke his nose last week so you can imagine how that must have felt. Prince Harry's expression was utter shock and sympathy. Sort of an, "Ohhhh, man that's gotta hurt!!!"

Harry quickly jogged back over to Jermaine, looking at the refs and holding up his hand to indicate the game should stop. He then squatted down, tenderly placing his hands on Jermaine's chest, and then grasped his hand in his, waiting for help to arrive.



If you've seen a soccer field it's gigantic, and help does take a good 15 to 20 seconds to get there. That must feel like an eternity when you're seeing stars. I imagine it's not as bad though when royalty is with you, holding your hand. It was an awesome moment.

Anyway, I bring this up because this is more than just what true sportsmanship should be. It's just how human beings should behave in both competitions and in life. If someone is hurt or hurting or you hurt them, not only should things stop for them, but you should go comfort and help them. This makes the world spin round in a manner that creates order out of chaos and good times even in defeat.

Last week on Kate Plus 8 when Mady was injured at Play Days, instead of holding up her hand to stop and going over to help her, Kate just kept on pummeling her until Kate won. Belgian Prince Harry's simple act of kindness and sympathy just shows how deranged Kate's thinking is. Prince Harry is a normal, nice guy. Kate on the other hand is an abnormal, cruel woman. Kate's way does not teach any life lessons like she so smugly thinks. It does not make the world go 'round. Instead it derails it and makes everybody miserable. We should all be more like how Prince Harry was just now and less like that waste of space.

Coming up on Kate Plus 8. God is giving it His best effort to stop the Hobbling Harridan with plagues of hail, wind, velcro and birds. Well, unfortunately God failed and she's still around and tweeting. He should have gone for the locusts.

May, and it's yet another new look for Kate. Maybe that's what she meant by piecing and patching. Piece a trend from October 2012 here, patch another from January 2013 in here. This one is sort of a poor man's attempt at the super dark roots look that was trendy nine months ago. Only rag mags would try to convince us that ever looked good. As usual Kate can't pull it off. To me she always looks more like a two-bit hooker on the corner of Hollywood and Vine than she does Sarah Jessica Parker. I get it. I always look like it's Halloween whenever I try anything trendy or outside the box but at least I know my own limitations and just stick mostly to Sketchers, leggings and bangs.

There's a photo of Shoka featured prominently in the background, just so we remember Shmoopy never really abused him. Oh, okay.

Credits. It's 5:45 and Shmoopy's up already and messing around with something or other in the kitchen. Are they on the first breakfast or the second? I don't care, because I'm too distracted by the clip boards attached to the back of some of the children's chairs like Doogie Howser is going to walk in at any moment and start analyzing your urine sample results. 

Two questions immediately spring to mind. What the heck is on those clip boards and why are they on only some of the children's chairs? It's so flipping weird, but not much surprises me anymore about the level of psychosis in this household.

Hey, remember the awesome computer diary Doogie would type in at the end of every episode? I bet he never was careless enough to throw out those discs. He's smart.



Good gracious we certainly typed slowly in 1991, were we really that bad?

Because the internet is awesome and amazing, somebody actually collected every single diary entry from the show and put it in blog form, complete with the correct dates and everything. It includes forgotten gems like this one: "They say beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Maybe if we all spent a little less time beholding -- We'd be a lot happier." F-- yeah, now that is a platitude worth repeating!

doogiehowsermd.blogspot.com

Thank you, good sir or madam. Bookmarked it!

Kate gets up every single day of her life at 5:45 a.m. Not to be nit picky but she's said many times on Twitter, even as recently as a few days ago, that they sleep in to ungodly late hours when they don't have school, so I don't think that's true. But fine, what's another lie.

They spend an untoward amount of time telling us what time they get up and how the morning routine goes. The thing I fear for these kids is that they may think any of this is even remotely interesting and grow big heads. This is not interesting. They are, bless their hearts, not interesting. At all. Not even the time they get up in the morning is interesting. I'm a big fan of children understanding they are not special. The adult world is easier on people who understand they're not special. Sorry, Mr. Rogers, but it's true.



I'm partial to this guy's high school commencement speech in which he said the opposite. You, little Johnny and Suzy, hate to say it, are not special whatsoever. Now good luck to you. It went viral because it was a great message.

They text each other in the house, which I think is preferably to screaming and shouting frankly, which they also do. Kate wants an intercom system. She should get one. The house I worked in had that and I have to say it was the nicest feature about it. Instead of screaming, shouting, or wasting time searching for various kids, I'd just pick up the phone, hold five I think, and say "monkeys, come to the kitchen Admin has dinner ready." And there they'd come even if they were downstairs or outside. It makes for a more peaceful house all around.

The kids seem to like the breakfasts she makes and they talk about how healthy the food is. I don't think white bread, eggs and cheese every day is the healthiest. I think their mother is hopelessly ignorant, not healthy. The kids are still brushing their teeth in the kitchen while Kate looks on? That seems like it may have more to do with control than anything.

Oops, Kate says they've been doing this so long it runs like clockwork. They can get ready for school in 50 minutes. Well, I have to say that is very impressive. Good for them. I think it takes a normal sized family about 50 minutes if not longer. But then doesn't that prove the point things are not as hard as she makes them out to be? Seems like the kids, who despite some of their issues are overall pretty decent kids who usually aim to please, are pretty much keeping this train on the tracks with little effort from Kate anymore. So does she have it hard and is this just so difficult, or does the U.S.S. Gosselin keep a tight orderly ship that practically runs itself? I would hope the latter by now. Heh.

The producer asks the boys what does Kate do while they're at school.

Oh, okay, so he was wondering too. I'm interested in this. I've been scratching by head over this for years.

"Work," Joel says. He's been reading the script I see. Work where and doing what exactly? I ask. Ha, Joel adds that sometimes she goes back to sleep. Well yeah I figured that much, Shmoops. How nice she found some job where you can punch in and then go back to sleep. She runs errands, says Collin. Um, errands are not work. You cannot classify as "work" what everybody else has to do too whether you have a real job or not. It is rather called, "things everybody else has to do too whether you have a real job or not."

Nah, Kate's not really running as much as she used to (she must mean since Coupon Cabin stopped paying for it) because well you see, she broke her foot.

Let me stop you right there. Toe, toe, toe, toe!!! according to the children. Can I just say it's amusing how God damned stubborn she is? Even when all the kids have explained she certainly did not break her foot, she still won't let up on that story. It's remarkable.

What? Wait, she "broke" her "foot" when the perpetually coming soon "cookbook" came out and wasn't that like in September? This is May, some nine months later.

Kate also doesn't have time to run anymore anyway. That's understandable with all the "work" she does while they're at school.

Yawn, Kate likes to do everything over the top. Yawn, Kate buys paper plates. Oh this must be at Michaels where one of the shoppers there was annoyed she and the crew were blocking the aisles. Heh, I love how much most of the locals can't stand her or this mess. Poor Shmoopy's pulled in all different directions by these damn kids and some days just wishes she could throw in the towel. Being a single mom is so tough. Oh well, shouldn't have had eight kids then divorced their father and estranged all your family and friends. Shoulda bought that cactus instead.

She never meant to portray herself as super woman. Oh, that's why she joined all those smug Mommy bloggers at The Stir. So we are reassured she actually is just like any other mommy, the truth is, sniff, sometimes she cries behind closed doors.

I like when she says shit that makes her look unstable.

When she feels overwhelmed she reminds herself it's okay to mess up the important thing is you not give up. Throw that on a poster. Now imagine doing all this with a real job.

Commercials. I heart me some Blake Shelton but sadly the Pizza Hut near me closed and was replaced by a pretentious looking Jamba Juice. If you can't even make a go of a Pizza Hut and end up getting replaced by juice you might want to get out of the restaurant business.

We're back. I still think it's funny they were so cheap with the credits and little intros that they couldn't even get one updated photo of the family. Literally the Kate Plus 8 family photo has to be three years old. Mady and Cara are half the size they are now. It's tacky looking because it's so cheap.

Kate takes the kids to the mall to pick out new outfits for their party. As usual Mady and Cara are dragged along but they make it clear they were not permitted to buy anything and were bored out of their minds as am I. I still don't understand why at their ages they can't stay at home for a few hours while Kate does this nonsense with the younger kids. They seem well old enough to me.

I don't like this discussion about the younger kids and their boyfriends and girlfriends, I think these questions are embarrassing most of them, so I'm skipping this part.

Because when she's miserable she has to make everybody else miserable too, Mady tells the kids anything they've picked out is ugly.  I'm very sorry the kid is obviously struggling with many things right now and I don't see how filming is going to help anything.

The next day, and I feel like they're explaining every little mundane thing in every little mundane detail. It's not a home improvement show. It's really getting tortuous. The bottom line is, Marie Antoinette here is going to bake a cake.

Kate's off to the bus stop while the cake cools. She needs to be out the door in "32 seconds." For the longest time I thought her odd times (like awake at 6:02 a.m.) were done just to be cute or funny. Now I think in her rigid mind it actually is 32 seconds to her just like it was 246 toothpicks and four left in the box to Rain Man. Maybe for work she could be a timekeeper of some sort. Maybe working for the railroad as a dynamite detonator. I like Westerns.

Suddenly a huge hail storm rolls in. Sort of. It wasn't exactly anywhere near her house but it did hit the bus stop. Okay those are scary. We got those maybe once every couple years back East and they actually are quite dangerous when it's happening, if you are out in it. If you're inside, using your brain and staying put it'll be fine. A really bad one like this may only happen once every ten years. They can also really dent your car or cause other damage. Kind of funny they use footage of the storm from The Reading Eagle since that newspaper absolutely hates Kate Gosselin and her ten years of scams. Heh.

I don't like parents who freak their kids out. We should not pass our fears down to our children. Kate is at the bus stop clapping at the kids to come on, it's dangerous. Well, the storm is over now and it's sunny, so I don't quite get that. They have plenty of time to get to safety should it start up again. She hurries them into the van in an absolute panic. The problem with this attitude is that in the span of 30 seconds you may have just made your child afraid of hailstorms for decades to come, and unable to handle them rationally and reasonably. It's okay to have a healthy fear of danger but it's not okay to deal with that fear by panicking. The sad thing is I think she thinks behaving this way makes her look like a caring and protective mother. Sigh.

They head to the pet store to get some beta fish for the party. Hm, I don't see anybody asking the parents of their guests if sending them home with a live animal is okay. You can't have a carnival without winning fish, Kate explains.  Gaa, these people. I suppose these are the same people that can't have a circus without abused animals, or Sea World without orcas who live in a small swimming pool as their life until they finally snap and eat their trainer. The tide is changing in remarkable ways, and these people should know they will be left behind. It's happening.

"This is starting to feel real," Kate says dramatically. The... party? Good grief you would think she is talking about having her firstborn child or earning her PhD without the D. It's just a stupid birthday party that was pretty much catered for them anyways.

Commercials. The most random people are able to get reality shows. Leah Remini, really? I mean I like her just fine but not enough to care what she does on a day to day basis.

We're back, and Kate is whipping up some frosting that has 2,000 pounds of butter. Well, then she could say it has a ton of butter and actually not be exaggerating. The layered cake looks good actually.  It's moist and has a good color, although someone on the blog here pointed out it didn't really rise. True. Here we go with yet another long, mundane explanation. I'll skip this.

Zorro, who apparently is quite a fine method actor, creeps slowly toward the cake. Yes, he's out of his cage and supposed to be perched on some little tree thing on the counter.

"Stay!" Kate commands. I don't know if birds respond to things like "stay." Uh, maybe she should put him in his cage?

Finally his big moment to show his chops, er, rather beak, is here and he flies into the cake and takes a bite.

Kate is shocked that this happened. Shocked I tell ya. Lol. You place your bird two feet away from the cake. He is eyeing the cake like he really wants it. He is even walking toward the cake. And you're shocked that this happened. She's not exactly the best at reading body language now is she?

You know, he only got a tiny piece of it. I probably would have cut that piece out and figured out a way to replace it with frosting somehow and not say anything. But because Kate is 12 and can't handle anything more complicated than a shoebox, she cries and bemoans how she can't serve it now and the party could be ruined and what will she do about the cake?

Brilliant screen writing here and Zorro hit all his marks.

For someone doing it 99% alone, there sure are a heck of a lot of workers around doing various things for the party. The tent people show up and could you put it a little to the left, now a little to the right, now do the hokey pokey and turn yourself around, perfect. 

The "surprise" for the kids is here. It came on a flatbed truck and Kate shuts it away in the barn. Based on that information I can't rule out that it could still be a Jonas brother. This is Kate we're talking about after all.

Kate's friends all live out of state, which is both funny and odd. Jamie flew in for the weekend to help out. Good ole Jamie, I remember her and Ashley and how much Kate pissed them off on the Yellowstone trip. It just so happened Jamie's kids would be away that weekend. With their father whom we're told they live with? Just saying. I always found it ironic that for all the hate and judgment toward Jon, none of Kate's fans judge Jamie or ask why her children don't live with her full time either. I have no idea what Jamie's situation is but there are dozens of reasons that custody might not be balanced that have nothing to do with whether one is a good or bad parent. Because I have no hate in my heart I've always given Jamie the benefit of the doubt on that. I just like the hypocrisy.

Jamie understands Kate. I'm glad somebody does. They are sooo similar, says Kate. Why, they even got divorced in the same year, "ironically." Hey, Alanis, that's not ironic, that's just a coincidence or perhaps even poor misfortune.

Nothing that happened on or off camera has affected this sisterhood of the traveling pants. And that's the sign of a true friend, says Kate. No Kate, that's the sign of a true enabler who I guess doesn't have the self-esteem to insist she be treated with kindness and respect by her so-called BFF.

God tries again with a freak wind storm, interrupting the family as they are trying to paint signs for the carnival. Just to drive the point home, God blows the papers straight into the heated pool. Lol, God.

"Can somebody shut the pool gate at least!" Kate screeches.

You shut it, bitch. You're the closest. She finally does.

What's funny is in the midst of all this you see what looks like a cameraman and a producer running away from all this and not helping. Not that the Jane Goodalls of reality T.V. should be interfering with what's going on, but it's hysterical the way Kate is screeching for help and production just runs away.

You know what's awesome about this? The kids love it. They fish the papers out of the pool, and Alexis blurts how funny it was, like a word scramble. Kate of course is beside herself. God owes me a perfect day tomorrow, Kate says to God as she points at the sky. So she really does have a direct line to Him like her letters to Jesus in her book. I wonder how one gets chosen for that.



I like kids and I hate adults. Adults who act like this anyway. The kids will remember this forever and get a chuckle out of it forever. Lighten the F up.

It's getting late and everyone is inside now. Kate is still pacing and strung out. The kids are fine, laughing and playing with their iPads. Why is it always the girls who are playing with the iPads and the boys watching, may I ask? Is that an iPad mini in addition to their regular gadgets? Sheesh.

They eat the cake that Colin Firth over there jumped on/the producer threw him on. Kate has to trust the party will come together tomorrow but she doesn't really think it will. Well, that's kind of rude to the catering company who did it all. I'm sure they know full well what they're doing.

Thirty-six long minutes in and it's finally time for the party at last.

"One person, too much to do," Kate says. She's just such a tool. Not to even mention the catering company there is proof did it all, what about Jamie (and as you will see Deanna) who flew in, the twins and their friends who did help seemingly for free as far as I can tell, and the birthday kids themselves? They all helped a ton! Like 2,000 pounds of butter a ton. Wtf, I don't understand her and why she always has to marginalize anybody else who busts their butt for her.

At the last minute Kate is able to get a carnival cake that looks like a big top. It's cute. It was probably ordered three weeks ago by production.

What is with this episode? Now we're spending what feels like ages watching them stuff the pinatas. This really has gotten to be just like watching old boring home movies. I can't believe anyone in their right mind thinks this should be a weekly series. With the exception of Zorro's great escape and the water boarding she did to the poor thing afterward, there is nothing remotely resembling an interesting plot here. They got nothing.

There's literally people everywhere helping out. People setting up the various stands, Mady and Cara's friends helping out, other unidentified adults doing things. I swear to god for about ten seconds I thought that blond chick with the shower wet hair and pink shorts was the new nanny. Then she spoke and I realized it's Shmoopy herself! She's so skinny. Who is she? What is she?

Kate and Jamie are setting up something or other with a staple gun and Kate is out of staples and doesn't know how to change them. For someone who does it 99% herself she sure is helpless. What did she do when she was out of staples before and she was doing it 99% herself? Maybe just stand there and hold it together with her fingers until the 1% gets there?

I don't understand the point of a party if you're going to be running ragged and stressed out beyond belief the whole time, but that's just me.

I love the two second clip of Kate giving orders to the twins' friends. Their body language is so 13. The in one ear out the other look, sure Kate yep no worries, got it. And then they're off to talk about boys and lipgloss.

"Once I mentally envision something, I just have to make it happen," Kate says, gesticulating so we see her nails.

Actually she says it more like this, "Once I mentally envision something, I just have to make it happen???"

I imagine around about 2003 that's exactly what went down???

The kids are on the couch playing with the clapperboard, shouting various things. It's kind of annoying, no offense, though it's not their fault. Obviously the producers made them do this and some of the kids, like Joel, don't look like they think this is that fun. Oh by the way Hannah smacks Joel across his cheek in the middle of this, but it's Hannah so don't worry it's okay. The clapperboard has some interesting information on it, like some of the crew members and that it was "take two" of this "reality show." So we were wondering if the crew is really the same crew Kate says they love and missed. I don't have the skills of Nev or many of the posters here, but I did a little poor man's sleuthing on IMDB to see what I could come up with.

I see two names on the clapperboard. One is C. McCarthy-Miller. I pretend Max is sitting just to my right holding his stupid little canon video camera as I pull up google.



I quickly discover "C." is some guy named Clark, and he has been part of all of two episodes, not counting these, of Kate Plus 8, as a production assistant and as a photographer. In 2011, folks. "Ohhhhh, that could be him!" Max always says, even if it's totally obvious that is him. J. Bromiley is also on the clapperboard, and that's some man named Jack, a camera man who is credited with only one episode of Kate Plus 8. Also one of the Australia episodes way back in 2011.

Assuming IMDB is correct, and I have no reason to think it's not, how could you possibly form attachments to these Clark and Jack guys and call them your daddy and family after two episode three years ago? Do the kids even remember them? When you look at IMDB, you see over a hundred people have worked in production on this show. Even if you don't count people who sit in editing bays and don't interact with the kids, it's still a ton. They have been through a whopping sixteen producers. So this whole thing about how this is such a close knit family is utter nonsense, of course.

The size of their crew is normal. This is how Hollywood works. There is constant turnover as you move on to other projects or projects and contracts overlap making you unavailable even if you wanted to be on the crew. For Kate to put forth to her dumb fans it's anything different than everybody else's television show is lunacy. And it's dangerous. How could one parent possibly vet over a hundred people to any reasonable person's satisfaction? You can't, which is how Bill Blankinship slipped through. He's still there on IMDB the proud editor of over thirteen episodes, it's not like they can remove his name just because he's a sex offender now, and still has two more years of probation to serve.

Kate puts on a clown wig and nose, and pairs it with a strapless dress that looks better suited for the beach. In this getup she sort of reminds me of Carol Burnett's Miss Hannigan, naturally the best Miss Hannigan there ever was. She was an ever-evolving mix between trendy and slutty, sober and drunk, lovesick and bitter. And she was a master scammer too and used children to her benefit. Carol nearly stole the show. This look of Kate's would be complete if she would just carry around a bottle of Sake.

You won't regret watching this clip of the great Carol, it's just incredible.



Lol, I love Mady. She is finally old enough to stop Kate in her tracts. When Kate tries to say she promised the kids she would wear it Mady immediately jumps in and says give me an ever loving break they did not want you to wear that and mortify them I saw the whole thing! Heh!

Oh, there's Deanna, another enabler and out-of-state BFF, wandering in the background carrying a present. Yet another person around to help and take the immense burden off Shmoops.

I should be shaking my head at how disrespectful the kids are about this, but in this case Kate deserves it. The clown thing is creepy, Leah says. Yes it sure is.

There's very few kids at this "carnival" but tons of adults working, plus Mady's friends. It does look good and authentic, though pretty juvenile, with popcorn and cotton candy and games.

Mady says Kate scares her friends. Yikes, I don't think she was joking about that one. Awkward.

Wow some of these games are pretty lame. Pin the nose on the clown, really? I don't know if kids in 2014 would like these.

Ugh, the horrific fish game.

Mady helps run this game, and bemoans the children's "sins of impatience." Whoa okay, sister wife!

Kate says the bowls did not have a fish in them, but I can see several betas in the bowls right there swimming while the kids are throwing balls at them, so W....T...F!!!

So for anyone who still thinks this game is all fun and dandy, I want you to imagine yourself sitting in a shallow kiddie pool all afternoon in the heat. Now imagine as you are lounging in this pool, somebody is dropping giant ping pong balls three times your size on your head, repeatedly. Then you get sent home with some kid who either forgets about you and leaves you in the car to roast, or puts you on the dining room table in that same kiddie pool and tries to remember to feed you every once in awhile because the family was neither expecting you nor was asked to have you over, so nobody else wants to care for you. Fun!

It just occurred to Kate that if any of her children actually win the fish, which several of them do, she'll have more pets in the house.

I love that the narcissist is only capable of understanding this and what a bad idea it is when it's happening to her. I.e. when her kids win and are ready to set up shop with their new pet in her house of horrors. She didn't even consider what she was dumping on other parents when she set up this game in the first place, and she still doesn't seem to think about that. Remarkable and fascinating.

I have to say I do kind of like that parents can come to this too and that there's a ton of space for them to socialize. It's fun to share in your child's fun without making them feel like you're a pain or smothering.

The velcro wall is cool and somehow seems quite fun. It does what you expect. You wear a big velcro suit, jump and get stuck to the wall. There are literally like four different workers with name tags helping to run it, so I don't think Kate is doing any of this all by herself. Kate does the velcro wall several times because it's all about her.

The piñata has nothing to do with a carnival and is totally off the theme so for that reason I don't like it. This is a perfect example of Kate really having no idea how to throw a classy, themed party. But as long as the kids enjoy it fine. Collin says something about how they hit the piñata but no one would want to hit Mommy. Obviously he hasn't found this blog yet.

A long and boring explanation about having difficulty lighting the candles on the cake. This show has been boring for awhile but I never remember it being this mind numbing. It's like they didn't even try.

Hannah violently pushes Collin away from the cake with an accusation he spit on it while he was blowing out his candles (hey it happens, don't like spit don't do candles), which I never saw, and naturally, there are no consequences.

The kids really liked their party so that's nice. Why couldn't the families just pull their cars up into the driveway and park on the grass? Why do they have to take a shuttle? Seems like an unnecessary expense for a piecer and patcher.

Now the big surprise. Hey that's not a Jonas! Instead it's a John Deere gatar four-wheeler thing that lots of big properties have. Oh, something to help them with choring! Yeaaa!!!

Collin is onto this immediately, lol. Well this is just to drive down to take care of the chickens. Yep.

Oh my god this thing is huge and powerful. Seeing it up close like this it's more immense and scary than I thought. Seemingly without any instruction Joel hops right in and starts driving. The rest of the kids drive it as well. Somebody posted that John Deere recommends that only children 16 and older drive this honking thing. Oh good grief. I would have preferred a Jonas brother.

I have never heard someone go on so long about what a birthday is really about. Good heavens it's not her birthday.


As usual very little of it is on point and the rest is in outer space. Succinct shmoops is not! It's finally over and up next another show about dwarfs? Well I guess they don't have a family yet who subscribes to the philosophy that you should not modify your home to accommodate your short stature because the world is not going to do that for you, so I guess that's new. This pretentious couple calls themselves the Brad and Angelina of the dwarf world. Yeah and I'm the Natalie Portman of the blogging world.

A couple final thoughts on what I hope is the first and only update special. I hope to never have to recap this show or anything these children are on ever again. (Don't worry, I will happily recap Celebrity Apprentice!)

It's more clear than ever before these past two weeks were as much about Kate getting a platform to play celebrity than it has a single thing to do with wanting what's best for her kids. Most of this episode was just Kate. Kate baking, Kate bird watching, Kate velcroing, and most of all Kate yapping about all things Kate. This obsessive need to be the center of attention even so far as on a nationwide stage is a dangerous one, and has only led to bad things for these poor kids.

Mady, Cara, Aaden, Alexis, Collin, Hannah, Joel and Leah are both her sword and her shield. She uses them to slash through all the red tape and get what she wants, like this very update special and many other things we well know of. And if anyone ever tries to question her, they are her human shields to hide behind. After all, you'd have to be one bitter and ugly person to attack a mother with eight sweet babies, right? Anyone who still believes this needs to seriously think about what the morally right thing is to do in a situation where two competing values butt heads. Those values of course would be, being kind, understanding and deferential to the sacredness that is motherhood, versus the promotion of a child's overall best interest and the protection of children from abuse and exploitation.

Of course in my book, the protection of children is paramount. In fact, if you don't know, like many other bloggers who have passed by the Realitytvkids porch, I too have dedicated my career to working on just such child abuse cases and much worse. You can't imagine what I've seen. You don't want to. I certainly believe very strongly in parental rights and would cut off my right arm to be sure someone is getting their due process, but at the same time I subscribe to the idea that sometimes it takes a village to protect a child. I believe the protection of children from abuse and exploitation is a matter of public concern if it has indeed crossed that line into abuse and exploitation, as I believe it has here. I could care less if a mother, or father, or anybody else gets their feelings hurt in the process. That does not matter when kids are being abused. I believe this is how it should be.

Oh, and my replacement keyboard works like a dream so I can say it without problems: I HATE Kate. Have a wonderful Fourth everyone. The porch is open and the rumspringa spiked lemonades are flowing, on me. You are in good hands with the blog girls and pool boys and I'll see you soon!


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Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Similar to people believing the world is more dangerous today because of the 24 hour news cycle and sharing of horrific crimes on social media, it's a misconception.

There will always be brats and narcissists and greedy people (TFW) but we all get to share and laugh/cry and before we know it we think it's an epidemic.


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This is a really fascinating theory that I like. Basically what I Think you're saying is that because social media makes it so much easier to see what is going on with people we are much more in the loop about how people behave.

Perhaps many of us were always selfish, coddled and attention whores, but we just weren't as aware of it because we didn't have as easy access to it.

I definitely don't subscribe to things are so much more dangerous now. I think the complete opposite, the world is safer than ever to a point where you don't even need to use your own head anymore to be safe. I hate the 24 hour news channels. Perhaps that is actually tied to the coddled generation. Because the news has done such a good job convincing us of how scary the world is--war, famine, kidnapping, rape, exploitation--we feel compelled to be more protective of our little prince and princesses.

Alberta Girl said...

My family threw me a baby shower with my first one. Nothing fancy, but more of a get together so the extended family could meet the baby. My sister, on the other hand, had 3 showers for her first one, as she didn't want to have a large amount of people at one. She had one for family (thrown by me, my mom, and my other sister), one thrown by her friends, and one thrown by her co- workers. She wanted attendance by family at all 3. I thought that was ridiculous. I had already spent a lot of money to put on the family shower with my mom and sister (we have a large extended family, so there were approx 40 people at this shower), and since this was for my new nephew, I spent considerably more on a shower gift than usual.

It was the same for her wedding 3 years ago. Multiple showers, out of town bachelorette party, and the accompanying family wedding expenses. I am not cheap, and I will spend more for family if we can afford to, but I agree with others here, in that the expectation now is absolutely unreal. She just had her second child, and is now strongly hinting to my parents that she needs a double stroller. Her kids are 18 months apart (as were mine), and I told her to use her fancy baby bjorn to carry the baby, and put the older one in the stroller ( as I did). She felt it wasn't fair for the baby (LOL!) to not have the same "stroller experience" as her older child.

Oh! Best gift I got was a plastic baby tub full of shampoo, washcloths, towel, lotion, baby clippers, and thermometer. Little things that you don't necessarily think of at the time. It also included one of those baby handprint kits that I am so grateful for now. In the first few weeks, capturing something like that is furthest from your mind, so to have it handy was great. It's amazing to look at as your kids get older.

Paper Plates Forever! Yay! said...

This whole piecing and patching shit. So if her goal was to get rich which she successfully has (apparently she has millions invested), it would make sense why she is cheaping out on the kids now so that when they fly the coop, she finally gets to dive into that pile of money that she has so carefully squirreled away. It is brilliant actually, well thought out Kate, good work. There is no other reason for her to be couponing with millions stashed away if she wasn't planning a big payday for herself down the road. I think that she has bigger plans for all that money and it's to spend it on herself doing things that Kate has always wanted to do. She will eventually get to live the high life that she planned and she won't have the kids standing in her way anymore. She hates it when people accuse her of spending money on herself when she considers it necessary for her "work" so that she can keep her TV career going. After the kids are gone, she is hoping people will no longer criticize her for spending money and she can finally cut loose with all that cash. But my, what a horrible price she has paid for getting rich. To be hated by so many people. She will never get to repair her image. People will never give her that chance no matter what she does. She drops pathetic little tweets that she has changed and now realizes what is important. Ha. Good one. One day those kids will realize that mom has a whole lot of money stashed away and she ain't sharin'. I know that if I was one of her kids that would piss me off. I would want my cut. Wouldn't that be something if they took her to court. I'm giddy at the thought.

I predict that once those kids finally get their hands on the internet, game over for Kate. And to think that she actually reads all of their texts right now and complains that it takes up a huge amount of her time during the day. Those kids must be terrified of her and what she will do if she reads something she doesn't like. She thinks people are admiring her parenting by doing that? It's overkill and shows a complete lack of trust towards her children. Asshole.

lukebandit said...

Look who's back!!!!!! Bwhahahahahahaha!

Bad, Bad, Carlos! Bwhahahahaha! This is RICH!

Carlos Gosselin ‏@CarlosGosselinM · 23m
@Kateplusmy8 missed me?




lukebandit said...

I tweeted Carlos back and told him I was so glad he escaped the abuse/pet abuse from the Monster Mom. Just wish I could say that for your "siblings".

I can just see her response:

@support @TLC @Bullyville @MiloandJack @mariecolliecrazy
@her new bff that is overtaking Milo's place. Do something!

Here's a quarter, ate, call Laverne and Shirley and see if they care.

Vanessa said...

What's with the ROL story? Upset that Jon had a "nice" piece written about him? Had to get something about you written, right? Really, she can't just shut up. Now more people will be thinking, what exactly is in that book? Hoffman right off the bat explains where the info came from, how he got it, how she tried to stop it etc. She's just so stupid.

And yes, what's really behind the sudden coupon talk? Just too random, there's a reason behind it.

Layla said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 18
They are brilliant, funny, very social, civic-minded. Yes, there is hope for the next generation.

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I don't think the whole generation is doomed not at all. There are plenty of good kids out there and adults with their heads on straight. I think I saw Jack on 60 Minutes and he's awesome, too bad his test will probably be stuck in trials for years.

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Jack has a lot of things going on these days. He's working on new experiments all the time, and his talents go far beyond a lab. He showed me this thing he had invented to keep tools from sliding off roofs. His uncle is a roofer, and complained about his hammer always sliding off roofs he was working on. Jack came up with a very simple solution to the problem. He applied for a patent on it--I don't know if he received it.
Sometimes it seems like technology has made things so easy for humans that we might lose the ability to do things like counting change, or just doing math in our heads. It's inspiring to see kids like Jack who have the drive to work hard and make a difference.

Layla said...

Isn't it great that Kate's litle pity party with ROL actually increased sales of Robertt's book? His daily sales had dropped a bit on Tuesday, but then came ROL's story and sales were back up yesterday.
Keep crying the blues, Kate. It only makes people more curious to see what you're so upset about.

TLC stinks said...

NEW article on Radar from Kate insider includes this explanation for nanny rule book:

According to an insider close to Kate, the reality TV star felt like she had to spy on Jon to protect her family, for fear of what he was doing when she wasn’t around.

“The only reason Kate was so strict on the nannies pertaining to Jon is because he tells the tabloids what is going on within the family,” the source told Radar.

“She also does not allow Jon in her house at all because he takes papers and whatever he can get his hands on to use against her.”

TLC stinks said...

More.....

Confirming Radar’s exclusive report that nannies were often asked to keep tabs on Jon, the source says it’s because the estranged dad can’t seem to move on with his life.

“Kate just wants Jon to live an honest, hardworking life and stop dwelling on their failed marriage which ended 6 years ago,” the source said.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

TLC stinks said... 27
NEW article on Radar from Kate insider includes this explanation for nanny rule book:
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New today? Radar's new format is so confusing. I couldn't find the article. Can you post a link please? Thanks.

TLC stinks said...

From The Stir:

http://thestir.cafemom.com/big_kid/174579/kate_gosselin_takes_spying_on

If Kate really is preventing her kids from having contact with their father, she needs to put about a bajillion dollars in their therapy jar, because this is not going to end well.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Before my head completely explodes over TFP (The First Pot) calling
the kettle black about not moving on from their marriage, I shall throw
out a new theory.

Is New PR Lady responsible for this new flurry of responses from
TFW's camp? After all, she's associated with such luminaries as
Traci Catfish and the late Michael Jackson's hairdresser. I'm
guessing if TFW offered her a grand for a bit of press this week,
she might jump at the chance to dazzle her. Meanwhile, Robert's
book sales are going up. Or, as they say in OppositeLand, fizzling.

TLC stinks said...

http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2014/07/kate-gosselin-nanny-spies-jon-banned-from-her-house/

TLC stinks said...

I suspect Amber Ryland from Radar got all her "insider" info at the same time but has decided to drip this info out to make several postings. I was waiting to see how Kate was going to spin this nanny leak.

I would love to see more nanny stories to put Kate's spin to rest. Again Kate wants people to believe that Jon is a thief and is not over her. Doesn't make sense after his foaming at the mouth about her on Couples Therapy. I hope Jon's attorney has contacted these former nannies.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Why cut coupons when you can sell stories to the tabloids?
Is it only bad when "certain ones" do it?

So if this new Radar story confirms the nanny rules are true, then
what ridiculous lie was TFW laughing about with her friend, who
KNOWS the real her?

She can't keep up with the lies anymore. She's got too many plates
spinning, and they're starting to wobble and fall.

TLC stinks said...

Layla, ITA. Kate cannot help herself and has to contact Radar and thus advertises Robert's book. Such an idiot. She must have been really pissed with the nanny coming out.

Frankly, I see no fault with Jon if back in the early days of the divorce he searched for damning paperwork. Everybody does this, particularly if you suspect your estranged spouse is hiding money. I have a friend who searched her husband's desk at home and discovered he was hiding money in a secret account.

Formerly Duped said...

re: coupon tweet. Alexis is screaming with delight and it's unlike her to ask for anything? This is quite different from what we saw on the special and all other clips. Yes, they scream- at each other and at Kate. Not ask for anything? They did- while shopping for party goods, and Hannah and Alexis at the party (fish, stuffed toy). They have so much I guess they don't really need to ask for many material goods, but no one believes this bulls**t.But they are greedy and grabby and want their own way from what we have seen.

localyocul said...

“Kate just wants Jon to live an honest, hardworking life and stop dwelling on their failed marriage which ended 6 years ago,” the source said."

That's the funniest thing I've read in a looooooooong time!

TLC stinks said...

Anyone keeping track on average how many books Robert is selling per day?

Katykat said...

I'm not a fan of Rosie O., either. There is something "off" about her. Like Kate, when she smiles, it never reaches her eyes. No joy in her heart. IIRC, she talked over her co-hosts, too...just like Jenny and Sherri. I liked Meredith and Lisa Ling. Intelligent, informed, and had manners.

NJGal51 said...

From the ROL story:

“Kate just wants Jon to live an honest, hardworking life and stop dwelling on their failed marriage which ended 6 years ago,” the source said.

As Radar exclusively reported in May, Jon was fired from his job waiting tables at a small Beckersville, Penn. pub and has since taken up a sales job while Kate landed a two-part special with TLC featuring the sextuplets turing 10-years-old.
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So Jon is actually living an "honest hardworking life" while TFW continues to pimp the kids so that she can live in the lap of luxury.

Paula said...

“Kate just wants Jon to live an honest, hardworking life and stop dwelling on their failed marriage which ended 6 years ago,” the source said
______________________________________________________

Okay, did anyone else just burst out laughing when they read this? I mean it is so friggin' ridiculous. There is a lot of "stupid" coming from the sheeple (and yes, Deanna, you are one of the sheeple), but this is one is at the top of the stupid list.

TLC stinks said...

Yes! Hand claps to EM Tanner https://www.facebook.com/funkyemtanner for talking about the book on Facebook. The ladies there cannot put Robert's book down. They had no idea how bad things are with Kate. More and more are buying the book.

TLC stinks said...

EM Tanner validates Robert:

EMTanner Designs. Yea I don't think ill be mentioned. Thank God! Lol. Feel so bad for contributing for such a sad cause. But I didn't have any idea what it was gonna escalate to. They really were not known at all yet when I began that gig! Jenn Hughes I just found it interesting when I saw the email that was for meee bc a lot of people think it's untrue stuff someone is making up when in fact he retrieved this stuff from the trash and knowing I, too, have the same email proved to me the authenticity. Make sense?

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Take that, sheeple!

FYI said...

So a "source close to Kate" admits that she did have the nannies spy on Jon? Hmm, how is this sheeple going to spin that since she tweeted this yesterday?

MARIE ‏@MY_2BCOLLIES · 16h
@radar_online @Kateplusmy8 Same fools don't realize the so called Nanny Rules are full of lies,same as Kate wanting kids to spy on Jon. ROFL

TLC stinks said...

http://www.celebdirtylaundry.com/2014/kate-gosselin-tell-all-book-legal-action-robert-hoffman/

And this time, sources say that Kate will NOT be taking legal action. Honestly, I’m surprised her intimidation and threats worked for so long, especially as it’s always been clear that she wasn’t planning on taking legal action. How can she, when most of what’s in the book is true? She can’t sue for libel, because Hoffman isn’t lying. She can’t say that he got this information illegally, because most of it was obtained through her ex-husband, Jon Gosselin.
If she does take legal action, then there’s a high chance that the case will head to court. And if they go to court, Kate’s dirty secrets will come spilling out. In fact, things that aren’t even related to the book are likely to come out, and then proceed to leak to the press. Kate’s not going to risk the whole world finding out that she used to hit her children with a wooden spoon or abuse her pets. She won’t take the chance that the added publicity will bring her more infamy, even if it means that she gives up being the center of attention for a few weeks.

FYI said...

TLC stinks said... 38
Anyone keeping track on average how many books Robert is selling per day?

July 10, 2014 at 6:31 AM
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The book sales are averaging between 60-70 copies per day. In June, he sold 572 copies in 8 days, and so far in July, he's sold 600 copies, with 11 sold so far today. He even made a sale in Germany!

Just for comparison, Kate's cookbook's total sales on Amazon for 2013(Mar-Dec) was 1438 copies.

TLC stinks said...

http://blog.freejinger.org/review-kate-gosselin-how-she-fooled-the-world/#.U76eQSK9KK0

Blog with blow by blow summary of Robert's book.

Trigger warning: Posts on this topic may trigger survivors of child abuse.

Today begins our chapter by chapter summary of Robert Hoffman’s re-release of Kate Gosselin: How She Fooled the World – The Rise and Fall of a Reality TV Queen. Hopefully, in the future, I will be covering more than 1 chapter at a time. I was short on time today and the Preface was longer than I remembered.



Carole said...

Isn't it great that Kate's litle pity party with ROL actually increased sales of Robertt's book? His daily sales had dropped a bit on Tuesday, but then came ROL's story and sales were back up yesterday.

Super job TFW, super! lOl
I think TFW and her 'source' are doing a great job letting people know they can believe Robert's book.

TLC stinks said...

LOL! That posed photo of Alexis with the brand new coupon organizer in her hands...it looks empty! Total BS.

chefsummer #Leh said...

Kate is a twit said... 16

How can she forget her coupon site it's in her name lol.

chefsummer #Leh said...

@radar_online @Kateplusmy8 Same fools don't realize the so called Nanny Rules are full of lies,same as Kate wanting kids to spy on Jon. ROFL
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So evey1 is lying on poor little Kate wahh wahh.

TLC stinks said...

Thanks, Twit. I am thrilled Robert's book has stable sales numbers despite not much publicity. Also, nice catch with Marie the sheeple's tweet. Proves they will say anything.

chefsummer #Leh said...

“Kate just wants Jon to live an honest, hardworking life and stop dwelling on their failed marriage which ended 6 years ago,” the source said
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1. Jon talked about their divorce during CT once. Or Jon rarely talks about their div.
2. Kate's been the only one talking about their div for 6+yrs.
3. I guess someone-(JON)- has to work a "honest" job since KK is to damn lazy to go out on her own and stop exploiting the kids.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


“Kate just wants Jon to live an honest, hardworking life and stop dwelling on their failed marriage which ended 6 years ago,” the source said


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Holy goodness talk about projection.

What about Jon has not been honest and hardworking?

How has Jon not "moved on" when he's had at least a few serious, long term relationships the current one in which they are discussing marriage.

Has Kate even had a date in four years?

sparkle said...

localyocul said... 37
“Kate just wants Jon to live an honest, hardworking life and stop dwelling on their failed marriage which ended 6 years ago,” the source said."

That's the funniest thing I've read in a looooooooong time!
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Often when damning info comes out about a celeb, the response from the celeb's people is "we will not even dignify those statements with a response." Period and that's the end of it. It leaves reasonable doubt about the remarks and it cuts off attention to the person making the accusations. Then we have Can't Leave Kate. She can't leave anything alone. Every time she tries to answer the accusations and explain them away, she is erasing any doubt about the book and boosting sales. She is the one who cannot move on. She still thinks it's 2009 and she just has to open her mouth and tell some lies that people will automatically accept as fact.

The 'honest, hardworking life' slam particularly kills me. Jon has held a series of regular Joe jobs since the divorce. Jon has been in several relationships and has moved on. Jon is the one who in 2008 refused to continue the church talks because he could not take money from people living paycheck to paycheck while they had a million in the bank.

sparkle said...

Kate is a twit said... 44
So a "source close to Kate" admits that she did have the nannies spy on Jon? Hmm, how is this sheeple going to spin that since she tweeted this yesterday?

MARIE ‏@MY_2BCOLLIES · 16h
@radar_online @Kateplusmy8 Same fools don't realize the so called Nanny Rules are full of lies,same as Kate wanting kids to spy on Jon. ROFL
&&&&&&&&&

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Gee, "the sources close to Kate" REALLY, REALLY need to gets their lies and stories straight before they tweet and run to Radar. They are making her look worse than she already does and I didn't think that was possible. Their help is no help. Well, it does help Robert, lol.

TLC stinks said...

Yes, once again Kate is the "master" of doublespeak. Saying "honest" implies Jon lives a "dishonest" life, saying "hardworking" implies Jon has been lazy, and saying Jon should move on implies Jon is still in love with her.

Oh, and I do believe Kate has indeed gone in many, many, many dates with Steve (dinners alone, fancy hotels, vacays).

willowmom said...

“Kate just wants Jon to live an honest, hardworking life and stop dwelling on their failed marriage which ended 6 years ago,” the source said

I wish I could "bold" the 6 years ago part. According to the way I subtract, 2014 - 6 = 2008. To my recollection, things were still happy happy in 2008, with J&K announcing their separation in June of 2009.

Error...or Freudian slip?

TLC stinks said...

Yes, the freejinger blog has welcomed the ex GWOP bloggers. I had no idea the site existed either. Amazing what pops up when you search.

FYI said...

From the ROL article:

'“Kate just wants Jon to live an honest, hardworking life and stop dwelling on their failed marriage which ended 6 years ago,” the source said."

Hmm, 6 years ago was 2008. So is the "source" also admitting that the marriage was over before Jon got caught "cheating" in 2009? Is the "source" also admitting that the marriage was over before the vow renewal in August 2008?

The more Kate's "sources" speak, the more harm they are doing her and making her look more of a fool than she already is.

Ingrid said...


willowmom . 59 According to a part I just read in Robert's book, she told Jon it was over in Oct of 2008. They hid it for a while after that.

rainbowsandunicorns said...

So a "source close to Kate" admits that she did have the nannies spy on Jon? Hmm, how is this sheeple going to spin that since she tweeted this yesterday?

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This sheeple needs to learn to shut up before she gets so deep into that hole that she finds herself in a heap of doo doo.

Carole said...

LOL, the bots are tweeting: "HollywoodGossip: Kate Gosselin: Robert Hoffman Book is Fabricated and Untrue ... But I'm Not Suing " yet the story confirms she did tell the nanny to spy on Jon, etc. So, exactly what was fabricated and is untrue? smh

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Hmm, 6 years ago was 2008. So is the "source" also admitting that the marriage was over before Jon got caught "cheating" in 2009? Is the "source" also admitting that the marriage was over before the vow renewal in August 2008?
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Is the source admitting Jon didn't start dating until their marriage was done, kaput, over?

chefsummer #Leh said...

KK has worked but she's been fired for every job she's had.

Carole said...

Hmm, 6 years ago was 2008. So is the "source" also admitting that the marriage was over before Jon got caught "cheating" in 2009? Is the "source" also admitting that the marriage was over before the vow renewal in August 2008?

Just like TFW (sheeple/source) confirming that the nanny manual is true, she's confirmed what we've all known for years, that they were living separate lives when they had their sham vow renewal ceremony in Hawaii and bought the Mcmansion.
Yep - keep those stories coming TFW; you're doing a fine job confirming the rumors and the 'fabrications' in Robert's book. lol

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Talk away, TFW - the more you say, the lower you sink into that
hole you dug for yourself. Meanwhile, Jon's silence will only
raise him higher in people's esteem.

Another theory about the coupon mentions...do you suppose
TFW is gearing up for a getaway by herself, and needs to explain
how she could afford it? She's been stuck at the compound for months now - she must be going stir crazy.

Unknown said...

willowmom said... 59
“Kate just wants Jon to live an honest, hardworking life and stop dwelling on their failed marriage which ended 6 years ago,” the source said

I wish I could "bold" the 6 years ago part. According to the way I subtract, 2014 - 6 = 2008. To my recollection, things were still happy happy in 2008, with J&K announcing their separation in June of 2009.

Error...or Freudian slip?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I logged on in order to call attention to the SIX years willowmom. I see that I'm not the only one that can subtract!

TCFMJG just keeps on being stupid, giving the ''sources'' information that come back to slap her in her stuck on stupid face!

Carole said...

willowmom, the marriage was very shaky when they renewed the vows in Hawaii - it was all for show. They were essentially done w/each other a year prior to the separation announcement. Jon had been sleeping either in the basement in Etown and/or the garage apartment for quite a long time before the media picked up on their problems.

PJ's momma said...

TLC stinks, it looks like that coupon holder was pulled off the display behind her. They are still in the store....
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“Kate just wants Jon to live an honest, hardworking life and stop dwelling on their failed marriage which ended 6 years ago,” the source said.

I think Kate will never get over the fact that Jon chose to have relationships publicly with someone besides her. I don't think she'll get past the fact that he had relationships with someone besides her, period, no matter how public or private. She has not moved on from six years ago. In all the interviews she has done, she could have said, "I am not discussing Jon." If she did that enough, they would stop asking. But she gleefully slammed him every chance she got. SHE will never move on.

JR said...

WAIT...Let me get this straight...shes blaming Jon because she got exposed for spying on him?? Wow.. You would have to have an IQ of 60 to believe that. I love how she keeps insulting the intelligence of the public with her bullshit. When theres nothing else to think of ..."blame it on Jon"....shes being laughed out of the "business"..even her sheeple haven't made a peep this morning...they all look like idiots right now

rainbowsandunicorns said...

With the talk about her couponing, I went to her site to see if it was still alive. I checked the featured stores. All they are seems to be advertisements for online or in-store sales for which you don't need a coupon. Anyone interested in purchasing from those places only need to go directly to the store (in person or online) to find the same thing. Why use Kate as a middleman?

FlimsyFlamsy said...

You know, the timing of RH's book is perfect for attracting readers.
People are looking for books to read while on vacation, or staycation,
or for a beach read on their Kindles. And friends are getting together
at barbecues and picnics and asking, "Hey, anyone reading anything
interesting?"

rainbowsandunicorns said...

Amber Ryland ‏@AmberGoodhand 45s
@BarbaraJean_s @GosselinBook @Kateplusmy8 There r many reasons sources prefer 2 remain anonymous, but I can assure you the info is verified.

LOL!!

Kirkland said...

A long time ago, my sisters started talking about how young people are so clueless. We came up with a list of things parents should teach their kids before they graduate from high school. We called it "life skills". At the end, I thought it was a great list. I hope you don't mind me sharing it with you. Maybe you can add to it, it really is a great list.

Before graduating from high school, every person should know how to:
Change a tire
Change the oil in a car
Jump start a dead battery
Balance a checkbook
Set up a simple budget
Sew a button
Hem a pair of pants
Cook at least one entire meal well.
Build a campfire
How to tie a knot in a tie
How to find a wall stud on a wall to hang a picture
How to flip the main power switch when the lights go out.
How to run the washing machine and dryer
How to iron a shirt.
Understand basic economics
How to complete a W4 form (it's amazing how many young people think if they claim 1 they get more on their paycheck).
How to use a map (paper map)
Is able to point north, west, east and south at any given moment.
Know how to scramble an egg and make coffee.
Know the proper technique for cutting a steak.
Table manners
Know how to introduce one person to another
How to use chopsticks
How to properly shake hands
Understand the political process (candidates, primaries, delegates, etc.)
Can always name the the current president, vice-president, speaker of the house, secretary of defense, secretary of state, and their own senators.
How to register to vote
Know how to read and understand common contract terms.
Know basic consumer rights
How to use a ruler and tape measure.
Know how to stop a toilet from overflowing.
Know how to unplug a plugged drain
Know how to use a fire extinguisher.

sparkle said...

Carole said... 68
Hmm, 6 years ago was 2008. So is the "source" also admitting that the marriage was over before Jon got caught "cheating" in 2009? Is the "source" also admitting that the marriage was over before the vow renewal in August 2008?

Just like TFW (sheeple/source) confirming that the nanny manual is true, she's confirmed what we've all known for years, that they were living separate lives when they had their sham vow renewal ceremony in Hawaii and bought the Mcmansion.
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Exactly. In the first book, Robert said that Jon was kicked out of the marital bed in July of 2007. This was from Kate's journal although he did not print that particular portion. Jon slept in the basement and the bed was noted in some of the episodes from the E-Town house. I believe the lie given was that Hannah was sleeping down there because she was a "disturber?" I don't remember exactly.

During the fake vow renewal, Jon and Kate looked like they were on an episode of "Fear Factor" when they were asked to kiss. It was so blatent that there was zero love there. What a sham and a disgusting way to grift a free trip to Hawaii. Of course the sheeple brushed us off as just jellus of their luv.

sparkle said...

rainbowsandunicorns said... 78
Amber Ryland ‏@AmberGoodhand 45s
@BarbaraJean_s @GosselinBook @Kateplusmy8 There r many reasons sources prefer 2 remain anonymous, but I can assure you the info is verified.

LOL!!
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I hope the info wasn't verified like ROL falsely claimed to "verify" Hailey's fake texts. Jon didn't even have Verizon as his carrier at that time. He had AT&T. Oooooooo how the sheeple hung their hats on that one! #hehheh

AuntieAnn said...

FlimsyFlamsy said... 31

Meanwhile, Robert's book sales are going up. Or, as they say in OppositeLand, fizzling.

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And in Factland, we'd more accurately say the book is "sizzling".

(Sorry, Gladys. I know that's gotta hurt)

Tucker's Mom said...

I've been reading on my phone and haven't had a chance to respond!

Some thoughts:

I'm sure Jon grabbed plenty of papers from the house. Supposedly, he lived there too, and even if the mansion proper wasn't his domicile, it housed his information: taxes, legal, contracts etc.
It must have been a real bitch for Jon to get his hands on the papers he needed during the divorce.
Side note: You bet your ASS spouses get their hands on information before the divorce. You have to!
I remember, so clearly, gathering up papers and taking them to get copied when I was beginning my divorce.
You better believe I had every single right to cover my ass and prepare for what was coming.

I found Kate's (camp/person/Deanna) response to be utterly unhinged, and I hope Jon takes this as evidence that Kate is paranoid, delusional and alienating his affections towards his children.
I hope that child advocates and professionals in child psychology become aware of this and weigh in, especially in relation to what we already know- that Kate is continuing to use her children for money and fame, continuing to erode whatever is left of their childhoods and privacy, and contributing to a media circus that her children never asked to be a part of.

Exactly how long has it been since Jon poked his head out of his gopher hole? 6 months?

Please, Kate looks desperate here.
Every single disparaging comment she made about Jon applies to her ten fold.

PA Dutch Mom said...

willowmom, the marriage was very shaky when they renewed the vows in Hawaii - it was all for show. They were essentially done w/each other a year prior to the separation announcement. Jon had been sleeping either in the basement in Etown and/or the garage apartment for quite a long time before the media picked up on their problems.

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Yes. Those in the community knew about their marital issues back in the late summer/early fall of 2008 before they moved to Wernersville. It was no secret here. I won't discuss the details, but it appeared that they had a "business" relationship when they bought that property. From the chatter among locals, it certainly didn't sound like a marriage, which is why, during that fake vow renewal, we had our jaws hanging open even though we knew that whole thing was a joke. We couldn't believe anyone would put the kids through that farce just for a free trip and the cash that came with it.

AuntieAnn said...

Kirkland 79 - That is a fantastic list of 'stuff' you should know, if not before graduating, at least before you leave the nest.

I'll add another: how to fix a leaky faucet.

AuntieAnn said...

jolie @ 172 - I love you too.

I mean that :o)

Susan1956 said...

Carole said... 48
Isn't it great that Kate's litle pity party with ROL actually increased sales of Robertt's book? His daily sales had dropped a bit on Tuesday, but then came ROL's story and sales were back up yesterday.

Super job TFW, super! lOl
I think TFW and her 'source' are doing a great job letting people know they can believe Robert's book.
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Shhhhh. If we keep calling this to TFMJG's attention, it won't be long before she wants her cut of the $8.88 Robert gets from each book sold. After all, not only is she piecing and patching, but nobody makes money off her and the kids!

AuntieAnn said...

PA Dutch Mom said... 84

We couldn't believe anyone would put the kids through that farce just for a free trip and the cash that came with it.

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It is truly astonishing the lengths Kate is willing to go to in order to live her celebrity-ish lifestyle. I don't know how anyone can believe her claim that she does everything for her children. She does it all for Kate. She makes me sick.

It was pretty obvious on the vow renewal that it was all a big fat joke and yet she tried so hard to convince those kids it was real. She has SO screwed with their heads so many times.

Ingrid said...

Kirkland said... 79 That list is great!! I am going to save it for my grandkids!

AuntieAnn said...

Sue Buddy - Spot on!

Millicent said...

Tucker's Mom said:
Side note: You bet your ASS spouses get their hands on information before the divorce. You have to!
I remember, so clearly, gathering up papers and taking them to get copied when I was beginning my divorce.
You better believe I had every single right to cover my ass and prepare for what was coming.
******
Yep. That's called being a smart cookie. Divorce is always painful and usually ugly. I worked for a family law attorney years ago. One piece of advice/warning he gave me was that when people are going through a divorce, they can go a little insane and not to take it personally if a client called up and screamed at me. If you know your marriage is heading for divorce, the best thing to do is prepare, get important papers together, and definitely don't fly by the seat of your pants.

Jane said...

"Ardent lickspittles" - love it! Welcome back, Sue_Buddy!

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Thanks, Sue Buddy - loved your witty, cogent Gather piece!

Auntie Ann (#89), for me, the most deplorable, unforgivable sin
of that vow renewal was TFW telling her children that their parents
would be together forever - knowing darn well they were about to
split. Certainly I realize marriages break up every day, and that
well-intentioned parents find themselves having to tell their kids
that things aren't going to be "happily ever after." But to say those
untrue words (preserved on film, for ever and ever) to those sweet
little faces was its own form of abuse and cruelty. All for a free
vacation. What a horribly unkind decision that was.

Millicent said...

Kirkland said:
Is able to point north, west, east and south at any given moment.
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I do know how to change a tire - but I wouldn't want to drive any car that had a tire I had changed on it!
I know how to check my oil level, but I don't know how to change the oil
Last, but not least - I am directionally challenged. If the sun is rising or setting, I can easily tell east from west. Otherwise, I have a hard time telling direction and always have. :)

But I agree - there are certain basics that every young adult should know. Years ago, my mom gave me a book called "Where's Mom Now that I Need Her?" It has a plethora of basic advice and how to's. It has recipes, recipe substitutions, how to fix common household problems, and all sorts of things. I will be giving a copy to my son when he goes off to college.

I remember once calling my handyman to see if he could come over and replace the mechanism in my toilet for flushing (the little piece that attaches to the toilet handle and the bottom plug). He nicely explained that he was sure I could do it by myself, in about 5 minutes. LOL - he was right.

Millicent said...

PJ's Momma said:
I think Kate will never get over the fact that Jon chose to have relationships publicly with someone besides her. I don't think she'll get past the fact that he had relationships with someone besides her, period, no matter how public or private
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I think what Kate can never forgive nor forget, is the fact that her minion, Jon, actually stood up to her, defied her wishes, and refused to carry on pretending they were married "for the show." It took ten long years, a whole lot of abuse and derision, and he even put up with being relegated to the apartment above the garage for awhile, before he finally said "enough is enough."

That's what she cannot get over. She controlled him with an iron fist, and then one day the worm turned. It is also a constant reminder to her that one day, the same thing is going to happen with those children. Maybe Hannah and Mady will stick around and still put up with Kate, but I predict most of those children, once they reach adulthood (or maybe even around age 16), will break free from her grasp and her control.

That's what really drives her wild - whenever she loses control. How dare Jon interfere with her plans for continued stardom on TLC? How dare he destroy their brand that had been working so well? How dare he then move on and apparently lead a happy life without her dictating his every move!!! How dare he continue to be involved with her children and not just go away and curl up into a ball somewhere? I don't think she gives a darn about any other women - she's not jealous of that. But he was her possession and he dared to stand up to her.

Anonymous said...

I can do everything on the list except eat with chopsticks. I just can't figure them out.

But I once fixed our toilet with a paperclip.

Great list

PJ

Formerly Duped said...

There's a good book called Adulting by Kelly Williams Brown covering Kirkland's topics and more, including how to write a thank you note, lol, work etiquette, managing daily life your first time on your own, some basic necessities to own, simple recipes, how to set priorities,and lots of other issues. It's written in an orderly but casual style geared for young people.

Millicent, I also changed the flap and chain on my toilet a few years ago and was very proud of myself! Also the toilet lid. I also admit I cannot do all the things on Kirkland's list and have a terrible sense of direction.

Sue Buddy: Great article! We have missed your witty pearls of wisdom.

TLC stinks said...

First, about the vow renewal. I thought it incredibly odd that ZERO of Kate's family made that trip. I mean, would you not, as a parent, want to attend your daughter's vow renewal?

Also, Steve and family were vacationing in Hawaii (although Steve was supposed to be working so I guess TLC picked up the tab for his family). At that time, Jon had his suspicions and it must have been awkward, to say the least, to have Steve hanging around with his head-in-the-clouds wife.

PA Dutch Mom, I am guessing Jon was already out and about by himself and that's why there was talk in the community. The guy was given the go-ahead, but I have to say that it was a sneaky plan on Kate's part. She wanted her cake and eat it too. Fool the public but if Jon were to slip up, oh well, I'll divorce him and make myself the martyr. I have always thought that Steve had something to do with tipping off that pap for the picture with Jon and school teacher. Somebody had to have tipped off the pap! It just makes sense to me because Kate's head was so big at that time that she figured she could go it alone without Jon, and well, maybe Steve might be persuaded to follow suit. She is a "masterminder" after all.

I totally believe, as an IT person, Jon kept all the backups for everything. Smart. And I believe that all his stuff was indeed pitched into the trash, including those backups.

And her journal, well she COPYRIGHTED it, so she has indeed owned up that those words are hers. Her intention for the journal was to one day write a book, scrubbed of course, of all the bad stuff. But again, I say that Beth Carson had to have read that journal and must have been appalled. She followed through on her end of the deal, but once it was over, she was out. It's a shame she won't vouch about the journal but I guess it would make her look bad. So, I'm not a Beth Carson fan and if she got ripped off on the book proceeds, so what. So much silence. It's criminal.

JoyinVirginia said...

Lickspittles?!?!! Oh, Sue Buddy, you made me laugh out loud!

LaLaLandNoMore said...

I, too, remember the lie about the bed in the basement of the E-town house. I heard it like Alexis kept waking up all the little kids, so they relegated her to the basement. Found that to be quite strange considering their ages. Now, the truth comes out.

Also, I agree that it was cruel to tell the kids the parents would be together forever to get that trip to Hawaii and San Diego. What kind of people do that? Not the kind who care about their children. Say what we will about the Duggars, they appear to be loving and kind to everyone, especially their children. TFW could take lessons from Michelle.

Bitchy Pants said...

For those of you who are excited over how well Robert's book is doing, and for those Sheeple who are claiming it's a fizzle -- As I've mentioned before, I have a friend who is a published author. She self-pubs, writes several series (mystery and urban fantasy), and sells in e-format (Amazon, Kobo and B&N) and DTB. I asked her a general question about a non-fiction book only epub, only one outlet, selling over 1100 books in about 3 weeks. She says any author, self or trad pub would be happy with those numbers and that is VERY good sales. So -- GO ROBERT!! and CONGRATS!!

T said...

WHO THE HECK IS FORREST????

When they show the chicken chore check list that the boys have to use in part 1 of the special it says "OUR CHICKENS", then lists some chicken related yes or no questions underneath. But directly below the last question, it then lists a new heading that says "FORREST's CHICKENS" and then lists similar chicken related questions. Which brings me back to the big question: WHO THE HECK IS FORREST? Do all 50 chickens belong to Kate, or do some belong to Forrest? Perhaps she does have a flock of 50 and boys must care for additional chickens belonging to someone else on top of that? Is she trying to make even more $ by using her children as hired farm hands now? Also, Forrest sounds familiar to me. Has she mentioned him before, on twitter perhaps? Maybe someone who has a DVR or has on demand can upload a picture of it, but trust me it does say "Forrest's Chickens" clear as day.

Sue_Buddy said...

AuntieAnn said... 91, Jane said... 93, FlimsyFlamsy said... 94, Formerly Duped said... 98, JoyinVirginia said... 100

Thank you for reading and commenting. BTW, lickspittle is one of my favorite words. Seemed so appropriate considering.

Tuckers Mom said...

I can change a toilet ballcock.
I like saying ballcock.

Unknown said...

So great to read your comments, Sue Buddy. I had to look up ''lickspittles'' and the definition is the perfect way to describe the lickspittles!

I've been thinking about why that stuck on stupid WOS can't let things go with Jon. In my opinion the main reason is that she holds Jon responsible for leaving TLC and ruining her 'career'. She will never ever ever believe that SHE is the one responsible for ALL her problems. In her mind every. single. thing. wrong. is. Jon's. fault.

Good on Jon for keeping silent. I hope he realizes that the less he says the more WOS digs her own hole deeper and deeper.

GO ROBERT!! !!!!!!

AuntieAnn said...

Sue_Buddy said... 102

BTW, lickspittle is one of my favorite words. Seemed so appropriate considering.

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I had to look up the definition. lol! Never heard of it before. You're right, it describes her minions perfectly.

lick·spit·tle - a person who behaves obsequiously to those in power.

(And here I was thinking it was that icky spit on a kleenex that some mothers have a nasty habit of cleaning a kid's face with. Blech)

JR said...

Kates trending on Yahoo....AHHHHH...Gladys must be so proud

NJGal51 said...

@DrSethMeyers: Contacted Kate Gosselin to interview her on the experience of having kids do reality TV. No response yet. :( #gosselinbook #roberthoffman
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Interesting. If she does give an interview I wonder if she'll give him a list of questions he's allowed to ask.

Lukebandit or anyone else on twitter - Why don't you tweet him and suggest that he contact Jon for an interview.

Tuckers Mom said...

Great to see you Sue Buddy!
Loved your open in your article.

Sue_Buddy said...

Remona Blue said... 10

Thank you, Remona. Yes, lickspittles is a great word, most fitting for some we know.

NJGal51 said...

Tucker's Mom - I'm with you I can change a ball ok and love to go to Home Depot to ask for one. There's got to be a George Carlin routine about that somewhere!

Welcome back Sue Buddy. Your insightful articles have been missed.

Formerly Duped said...

I wonder what Jon really thought of the special and if he even watched it. He was so against it.Will he do anything about the dangerous John Deere? Can he? I hope the kids really talk to Jon when they are together. Cara would benefit greatly (as would all the kids) since they always seemed to have a special rapport.

Bitchy Pants said...

Sue Buddy -- GREAT article! It's so good to see you back. I've missed your snark -- and your insights.

the former readerlady

Carole said...

I loved your new article Sue_Buddy! It's so good to have you back! We've missed you. I learned a new word today thanks to you: 'lickspittles'. ;-)

"Now that the cat's out of the bag, I think Kate needs to issue daily talking points to her most ardent lickspittles so they don't have to go into hiding or lock up their Twitter accounts after she contradicts something they've been vociferously spewing for years."

LOL

http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474981979296

AuntieAnn said...

Tuckers Mom said... 105

I can change a toilet ballcock.
I like saying ballcock.

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haha. Oh yeah? Then I'll bet metal wizz snips and hori hori knives would really grab ya.

Who comes up with these names anyway?

Rhymes with Witch said...

Sue Buddy - thank you for my vocabulary word of the day: lickspittles. Also for your piece. Glad you are still around.

Robert- read the kindle version and plan to buy at least 2 dtv s, one for my local library.

willowmom said...

Tucker's Mom, NJ Gal, there's a cute line from the movie Murphy's Romance (Sally Field, James Garner). He's visiting her house, toilet is overflowing & she says "I think the problem is the ballcock" & he says "That's where most problems start".

lukebandit said...

NJGal51, I sure will.

I thought about Robert not doing interviews on the talk shows. It may be possible because of health issues. But, I thought maybe he could go to a local TV station like an affiliate of CBS, NBC, ABC and do a satellite interview and he wouldn't have to travel. I think that would be great.

Remember when ate went in Sarah Palin's house and saw her office, with the big window with the big mountain with the snow peak on it and the Satellite Equipment like a tv station in there? Her mouth dropped open, she look like she was in full throttle o'my you know.

The ENVY on her face was insane!

swingsandroundabouts said...

Kirkland, I loved your list and agree with it all. I would add that everyone should learn to swim at a young age. And ride a bike. Good typing skills should figure in there somewhere.

Sue Buddy, good article and well said.

I had promised to buy Robert Hoffman's book but it still took me 2 weeks to actually do it. I have read only about 25% so far and one thing that surprised me was the account of the yard sale. Kate not only had a garage full of things to sell but also a storage unit full. WTH
Most of that stuff would have been grifted by her or donated by corporations who wanted to help a young couple and their kids. She sold it off when she could have regifted it to other young families or women's shelters, etc. I am skeptical whether all the money collected actually made its way to pediatric cancer research.

Formerly Duped said...

I had to buy some 'bag balm" for my husband's cracked feet one winter- it's used for cows' udders but you can get it at any drugstore since it's great for skin. Unfortunately I asked for "ball balm." ;( ?????

Carole said...

@DrSethMeyers: Contacted Kate Gosselin to interview her on the experience of having kids do reality TV. No response yet. :( #gosselinbook #roberthoffman

Oh, heck no. As much as I'd hope Dr. Meyers would ask some pertinent questions and might not let her deflect, I don't think he'd be able/allowed to keep her on task and get anywhere w/her. The interview would be BS just like her others. Yes, he's questioned TFW's choices and is personally against reality tv, but he does tabloid tv.

I don't think TFW should be handed another platform where she'll be allowed to drone on about how reality tv has been so good for her family. She's already made it clear she believes it's done nothing but been wonderful and there have been no negatives from the exposure and loss of privacy.

Is there any need for her to exploit the kids again by doing another interview where they're the focus? I say NO. I hope he leaves well enough alone. The proof is already on tape.

Rhymes with Witch said...

OT: after what seemed like a long wait, my back yard is fenced. Petfinder.com here I come.

FYI said...

Sue Buddy-great article!! You condensed everything and put it all in one place! I love your humor and lickspittle has become my favorite new word! Your take and articles on Kate have been greatly missed! Welcome back.

Serendipity said...

Kate will just never learn to shut up. She has to keep it going. If I were contacted for a comment, I'd say, "No comment." That ends that. Apparently her PR person or persons, whether it be the newbie Milo-wannabe, or a sheeple insider, they don't seen to be giving her very good advice. Whenever you try to "set the record straight," you just end up weaving a new web that's going to expose you to even more criticism, comments, questions...a tit for tat thing that just keeps going.
It always backfires on her. Look what happened on The Today Show interview. In this case, it's probably going to sell more of Robert's book.

FYI said...

T said... 103
WHO THE HECK IS FORREST????
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If I'm not mistaken, Forrest is Kate's farmer neighbor who has the dairy farm and whose place they walked to in the J+K plus 8 finale.

I'll see if I can find a clip or a recap where his name is mentioned.

lukebandit said...

Good luck, Rhymes with Witch finding your new baby!

mamaK said...

Re: Who is Forrest....
Veeeerrryyy interesting. Have no idea what it means, but the location of this farm can't be a coincidence.

http://www.springcreekstrickerfarms.com/Aboutourchickens.html

lukebandit said...

I tweeted ROL and asked them to investigate why nobody from kate's side of the family went to the Hawaii wedding vow renewal. Steve Neild and family were vacationing at the same time.

You would think at least someone from her side would want to go to the HWVR. They ALL knew it was a SCAM!

FlimsyFlamsy said...

I just saw pictures on Wire Image of Discovery head Eileen O'Neill,
that pillar of taste and morality, with some of her "talent" in Beverly
Hills for the Television Critics Association junket. Too bad TFW
didn't get to go. A free, all-expense paid trip, without kids, fawned
and fussed over, probably swag bags everywhere you turn, cameras
in your face just waiting for your next words of wisdom. Too bad,
so sad.

Lynne In RI said...

I had to buy some 'bag balm" for my husband's cracked feet one winter- it's used for cows' udders but you can get it at any drugstore since it's great for skin. Unfortunately I asked for "ball balm." ;( ?????

)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

lol, Duped! My nephew liked Ghostbusters and I went to the store to pick up a CD for him. I asked the clerk to point me in the direction of the Ballbusters. They were falling down laughing over that one. I have no idea why I said it...it just came out.

Rhymes with Witch said...

Unfortunately I asked for "ball balm." ;( ????? 121

Thanks for the laugh! I discovered bag balm when I lived in Vermont. It was the only thing that healed my cracked heels during those bitter winters.

TLC stinks said...

I know who FORREST is! On GWOP there is a recap dated Nov. 26, 2009and that's the one where Kate walks the kids on the road to their neighbor, Forrest. Here's a snippet:

Finally they make it to the milking area. Kate lets us know the kids were bored so she had to ask Forrest if they could help hook the cows to the milkers. She actually is paying attention to what the kids are doing and gives a bit of encouragement. Kate has to relate it to herself that she felt like that after the tups were born.

https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6454349132986954975&postID=7188869055335980340&page=1&token=1259291307598_AIe9_BEKj1Z7M7A5ZVKyqZLHy2rUU7TPbWa9dJH0XEiCw1sZjXwyQD2ssrraX800SMBY4yLWdzmsgPV3C54xT9TaOYlL-EMmTWjqFFyhe3VMGGwZ1OrGIs-tYDcF7j-e0HPV9Zga-99QnsN3_1nzxTshKPF_yG5wZgXY0QNeU9Tqmlbfxsu4pQTVYnjhBFkuveLkJy0FUHeB0TFdU1SIBiRztvMlRtZnFfGGgtIpBx-HKnOsHex4e-r6Inaj9uWmOq6RN01JaYEu

So here's my thinking: not all the chickens are hers. No idea why. Any guesses? Does she have to claim a certain number of chickens to be classified as a farm? Is Forrest paying her (the boys) to take care of the chickens? It's odd.

mamaK said...

someone on twitter should ask her who Forrest is and her option of that farm.
She must be renting out her land to him.
So when she says "We have a flock of 50" she really means, Forrest and the boys.
Lying liar who lies.

mamaK said...

Also, one last thing. One of the photos on the farm's facebook page is of a bridge that was washed out. Someone commented on it that it was impassable unless you had a Gator.

Lynne In RI said...

It's a shame she won't vouch about the journal but I guess it would make her look bad. So, I'm not a Beth Carson fan and if she got ripped off on the book proceeds, so what. So much silence. It's criminal.

)))))))))))))))

I don't think it's a shame that Beth has remained silent. That's exactly what she should do. Kate's digging her own proverbial hole. Beth doesn't need to get into it at all.

Lynne In RI said...

(And here I was thinking it was that icky spit on a kleenex that some mothers have a nasty habit of cleaning a kid's face with. Blech)

((((((((((((((((((((((((((

Or the spit you put on your finger and clean your kid's face. Why bother with the Kleenex?

TLC stinks said...

Any locals know about agricultural tax breaks?

Here's part of an article I found:

It appears that the ultra-rich get all the breaks. Still, it seems many of them keep looking for different ways to hold onto their wealth by avoiding taxes while letting those of us who are less fortunate financially pay more than our share. Some of the well-heeled have even found a way to pay less than their fair share of local property taxes. They do that by claiming their large estates and properties as agricultural land. Here are the names of some of the “faux farmers” in New Jersey who have had their real estate taxes drastically reduced: Malcolm “Steve” Forbes, Jon Bon Jovi, E Street Band drummer Max Weinberg, Publishing magnate Donald E. Newhouse, former CEO of Commerce Bank Vernon Hill II, and Robert Wood “Woody” Johnson IV, heir to Johnson & Johnson and owner of the New York Jets football team.

Wealthy gentleman “farmers” haven’t just been gaming the system in New Jersey—they’ve been doing it in Texas, Florida, Iowa, Colorado, Alabama, and in many other states across this country. The tragedy of this tax avoidance by those who can well afford to pay more is that it is costing local governments the revenue they need to run their communities properly.

Several years ago, Art Cory, who was the chief appraiser for Travis Central Appraisal district in Texas, said: “It just seems to me that everyone ought to pay their fair share. That’s not happening now (American-Statesman, 2003). In regard to the agricultural tax break, Cory added, “You can go out and cut some brush, put out some feed and count the deer once a year and qualify.”

lukebandit said...

In about 3 to 5 days, the book will surpass the cookbook guru's sales!

Ted: If you do not have what it takes in the CHOPPED kitchen,
YOU WILL BE CHOPPED!

Ted: Dramatic Music!
Cameras Pan to each contestants face!
Ted lifts the Silver Dome!
BOOM BOOM
Awe! Chef, (Ted giggles) ate you've been CHOPPED!
Judges?

Judges: Bwahahahaahahaha!
GZ: To much SALT!
Alex: Everything on the plate wasn't cohesive!
Aaron: Your knifing skills were atrocious on the Chipotle
peppers. Also, real chefs don't toss food on the
with their bare hands!

I wonder if ate would try to grift at least 8 of the silver domes for her golden platters and spray paint them gold so they would be
matchy-matchy!

Seriously, on a CHOPPED the other night there was a girl chef and Alex said her knifing skills were above reproach, one of the best or one of the best so far that she had ever seen. I wanted her to win, but I can't remember if she won, she may have I think. She made ice cream and it was coming out and the I think GZ said, look at that ice cream it is PERFECT! They loved it.

FYI said...

In Robert's book, he writes about the episode where Kate and the kids go to the dairy farm, and he names the farm--Spring Creek Farms. This is from Spring Creek's website:

"Spring Creek Farms is a certified organic dairy and poultry farm offering beef, chicken and dairy products including raw milk. In addition to family members Forrest, Barbara and Greg, we employ four other dedicated people to care for the animals."

So Forrest is the farmer who lives down the rode from Kate.

Lynne In RI said...

MARIE ‏@MY_2BCOLLIES 15m
#Kateplusmy8 Oh poor Luke Bandi doesn't realize that family or friends could be there, do not HAVE to appear on camera and why should they?😃

But, but, but Collie. There were no pictures of Kate's family at the Hawaii fiasco. Therefore, it never happened. They weren't there! LOL!
She is sooooooo dumb.

Tucker's Mom said...

Is there any need for her to exploit the kids again by doing another interview where they're the focus? I say NO. I hope he leaves well enough alone. The proof is already on tape.
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Does this Dr. Meyers have a show? Radio? TV?

I would love Kate to have a sit down and have the host at least try to have an honest conversation with her.

localyocul said...

AuntieAnn said... 107
Sue_Buddy said... 102

BTW, lickspittle is one of my favorite words. Seemed so appropriate considering.

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I had to look up the definition. lol! Never heard of it before. You're right, it describes her minions perfectly.

lick·spit·tle - a person who behaves obsequiously to those in power.

(((

I had to look up "obsequious"

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Tucker's Mom (#130), you used the words "honest conversation"
and "Kate" in the same sentence. Step away from the computer
and go get a cold compress, dear. You're not at all well.

Once she parked herself in that seat and the director yelled "action,"
she'd be poking those talons in her eyes and saying she breathes
for her kids, and she's alone, and no one, NO ONE has walked in
her shoes. She uses those children as a shield (note to the fans -
this is a metaphor). If she's holding them in front of her and
someone tries to body-slam her with the facts, well, then,
they've just squashed those 8 little faces, haven't they? She's
not smart, but she sure is cunning.

Rhymes with Witch said...

would love Kate to have a sit down and have the host at least try to have an honest conversation with her. 130

I would too, but let's face it. She would dab her eyes and use her little girl voice and do the poor pitiful me thing that she's so good at.
My dream is for Jon to.get custody of his children and Kate to get treatment for her mh issues.

NJGal51 said...

Don't you just hate auto correct sometimes? ball ok BALLCOCK DAMNIT BALLCOCK!

chefsummer #Leh said...

I mean, would you not, as a parent, want to attend your daughter's vow renewal?
______

Maybe the parents knew it was fake and they refused to come.

Didn't Kevin & Jodi say that KK loves to fake things on tv?

I bet they knew it was fake and told the other family member about the fakeness.

Midnight Madness said...

Very slow sheeple Lauren tweeted:

Lauren ‏@ljohnson2006 5m
Why should @Kateplusmy8 have to sue over a book that she's already taken legal action against once? #HatersWillAlwaysHate

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Do these sheeple ever listen to themselves? I mean, do they ever really think before they tweet, or are they so stupid that they have no idea what they are saying, or that it makes no sense whatsoever?

Lauren, you fool. Kate did sue once and got absolutely nowhere with it. Do you really think she's going to go that route again, only to be shot down, and have to go through deposition in the process? Do you have any idea what takes place during depositions and Discovery?

TLC stinks said...

I bet MOST of the chickens belong to Forrest. It would seem odd for him to rent land from her since he owns a real farm. There's got to be a financial reason (in her favor) for their arrangement. Interesting comment about the Gator, too. No way was that just for the tups.

Tucker's Mom said...

She's
not smart, but she sure is cunning.

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Which is why I'd love for someone who doesn't have a dog in the hunt to hold her feet to the flames and not let her use her feminine wiles and children to deflect.

Tucker's Mom said...

Auntie Anne, I bet I can hit a shuttlecock further than you!

Beyond Disgusted said...

"Maybe the parents knew it was fake and they refused to come."

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Was Kate even talking to her parents at that point? If they were alienated, why would they be at the fake vow renewal? I thought that she said that they didn't know how to help her, so why would they go to the ceremony if she wasn't speaking to them?

TLC stinks said...

Forrest Stricker has a 400 acre farm. It really makes no sense that Kate would sell eggs to him. For whatever reason, she (I mean the boys) are also responsible for some of his hens. Why?

Call Me Crazy said...

Tuckers Mom said... 105

I can change a toilet ballcock.
I like saying ballcock.
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Hahahahahahahahahaha!

gabby2 said...

If it was all for the "children"....she would quit spending thousands on her own face and take the twins to a good dermatologist!

Go Robert.

....any news on Milo the enabler?

FlimsyFlamsy said...

So the fan said TFW's parents were there but not filmed, because why
should they be on camera if they didn't want to be? You mean there's
such a thing as not wanting to be on camera? Not to hear TFW tell
it. And how come her parents' wishes were respected and not her
kids'? That misspelled "No Cameras Allowed" sign on the twins' bedroom door made their feelings pretty clear...

chefsummer #Leh said...

Was Kate even talking to her parents at that point?
___

I believe once she said she and her parents do e-mail.-(WTF)

However her brother Kevin said she filmed a fake christmas so I'm betting her told the parents-"I do believe this vow thing is real so why go". Or something like that.

Sue_Buddy said...

Carole said... 115, Rhymes with Witch said... 117, swingsandroundabouts said... 120 thank you so much for commenting. Hope it made you smile.

TLC stinks said...

Do you think she "borrowed" extra hens from Forrest for the filming? She brags about her "50" chickens so there better be plenty there, LOL.

Sue_Buddy said...

Kate is a twit said... 124, thank you for your comments. And I'd like to say you're a terrific archivist. If ever there's a questions about a comment or article, you've got the link. Thanks for that.

jolie Jacquelyn said...

Hi Sue Buddy, great article. Very happy you've come back!!!!

PatK said...

So glad to see another article from you, Sue Buddy! Well done again!

Bill said...

willowmom said... 59

I wish I could "bold" the 6 years ago part.


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It is really quite easy.

Put <b> before the text you want bolded and put </b> after.

Like this: <b>bold</b>.

It may seem arbitrary, but lt is short for "less than" and gt for "greater than," the common use for those angle brackets used in mathematics and computer programming.

I did not make this stuff up; I just learned how to (ab)use it.

Carole said...

TFW's and Forrest's property look to be basically across the street from each other (via satellite view) and if you were to travel by gator the trip would be easy and very quick. If you drive on roads the trip is about 8/10 mile.

I'm guessing she gives her extra eggs to Forrest and he sells them for her, as a courtesy so they're not thrown away. I don't think there's any way she could use eggs from 50 chickens, no matter how many egg/bacon/cheese sandwiches she feeds the kids.

Carole said...

Does this Dr. Meyers have a show? Radio? TV?

I would love Kate to have a sit down and have the host at least try to have an honest conversation with her.


He's frequently on a tabloid tv interview shows like Extra or Inside Edition. He's done Dr. Drew, The Doctors, Dr. Oz, etc. He's a psychologist. As much as I'd love for someone to do an interview w/her with honest questions and followup, it's never going to happen with her. Especially not on a tabloid interview show. If he wants to interview her in private to write an article or book, then fine, but no way do I think it would be a wise decision to put her in front of another camera to spew her BS.

glitter said...

Oh, well, her daughter, my niece, is pregnant. Payback is a bitch. We all plan on attending the baby shower and not bringing a gift. We'll use her line: "Oh, were we supposed to bring a gift????"

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But it's your niece who will suffer. What did she do to deserve no gifts?

Carole said...

Re: Agricultural tax breaks.

TFW's property has always been covered by the "Clean and Green Act" which gives her a property tax credit/reduction. It has nothing to do with her having livestock. It's based on a certain percentage of land being left unimproved and natural. The land that's mowed and used for hay and her woods is why she qualifies for that credit.

I've not seen any indication on the property tax records that she's getting a further credit for the livestock. Maybe she writes it off on her personal or business income tax returns, but I've not seen it as a property credit.

localyocul said...

Carole said... 166
TFW's and Forrest's property look to be basically across the street from each other (via satellite view) and if you were to travel by gator the trip would be easy and very quick. If you drive on roads the trip is about 8/10 mile.

I'm guessing she gives her extra eggs to Forrest and he sells them for her, as a courtesy so they're not thrown away. I don't think there's any way she could use eggs from 50 chickens, no matter how many egg/bacon/cheese sandwiches she feeds the kids.

(((

Except he claims his eggs are from his chickens that roam around pecking for insects then file in line into the red house. Not sure if he claims "free range" or not but her chickens I'm sure do not roam free.

Carole said...

Oh dear -- ignore the comment I just posted about TFW's agricultural status. I didn't see sparkle's post about TFW qualifying for a homestead status 7/1. I'm heading off to see what that's all about!

localyocul said...

Oops I see you did because you replied LOL

Formerly Duped said...

If the kids come down at 6:03 for the breakfast sandwiches already dressed, they must get up very early. Didn't Kate put in the CWS manual all the girls' hair had to be flat -ironed ( didn't see that in the special, but there were some nice french braids no way Kate did) She said she allows 50 minutes to get the 'routine' done, and approx. half an hour was eating- clock said 6 :29 when finished. Add in chores of feeding Shoka and Zorro, then the tooth brushing/rinsing chore, shoe-and-book-bag extravaganza/lunch packing, seems to me they would be getting up closer to 5 AM. Ridiculous. Or was the breakfast faked and they just have cereal?? It actually looked pretty good- only half a sandwich each though. I just don't see how they eat all those eggs from 50 chickens if they really don't 'typically' have those sandwiches and they are a 'rare' treat..

Sorry for convoluted post!

FYI said...

That Homestead status seems similar to a program we have in NYS called STAR. It's basically a way to get a property tax reduction on your school district taxes. In NY, the homeowner's annual income has to be under $500,000 and it must be the homeowner's primary residence for the property to qualify. There are also additional credits for veterans and seniors 65 or older.

I don't know what the qualifications are in PA, but Kate must have somehow managed to meet the requirements for 2013. She had no major income producing project going on last year, unless you count her book sales. CWS was filmed in 2012, so I doubt whatever she earned for that was included in her 2013 income.

Homestead refers to owning a home, whereas farmstead would refer to owning a farm.

Carole said...

Here's the info about Homestead Exemption in PA.

http://www.newpa.com/local-government/tax-information/property-tax-relief-through-homestead-exclusion

It doesn't look like it has anything to do with her living on a farm or having any livestock. Basically the owner of the property must reside in the home. Owners of city homes and condos are eligible. IDK why she's just now approved for this credit, though. Maybe it was previously overlooked? Maybe someone local knows why she'd just now be getting it.

Beyond Disgusted said...

"Except he claims his eggs are from his chickens that roam around pecking for insects then file in line into the red house. Not sure if he claims "free range" or not but her chickens I'm sure do not roam free."

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Didn't Kate once claim that someone's chickens were free reign or free rain or free rein?

"So glad to see another article from you, Sue Buddy! Well done again!"

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Ditto! There's a fly or insect person on Twitter who said that Sue Buddy is an angry person. LOL! Sue Buddy has to be the most level-headed, calm, cool and collected person/blogger/tweeter I've seen in a long time!

"Unfortunately I asked for "ball balm." ;( ????? 121

Thanks for the laugh! I discovered bag balm when I lived in Vermont. It was the only thing that healed my cracked heels during those bitter winters."

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But did it do anything for your balls?



Carole said...

Except he claims his eggs are from his chickens that roam around pecking for insects then file in line into the red house. Not sure if he claims "free range" or not but her chickens I'm sure do not roam free.

Localyocul,
I agree. Who knows what she's up to!

lukebandit said...

Back to the wedding stories. Sorta.

I have been really, really thinking about a poster that posted that they had a simple wedding and they just met the guests at the church door and when it was time, they just walked down the aisle, hand in hand.

I just want to sincerely thank you and the other posters about the wedding stories.

I am in tears now just thinking how wonderful that would be. If I could go back, I would of had it at our beautiful, local state park. They have a over look overlooking mountains, the huge lake, trees, the sunsets! But we got married in 1982. So, I would of gotten the beautiful wedding gown that I wore, had my ex in a nice suit so he could use it for years. Put white sheets on the incline and big steps going down with blue Mason jars with flameless candles and sunflowers on the steps.

Had a big rug where we would stand, a few chairs for the guests. Would of been maybe 20 to 25 people. Have the jars on the railings a couple of inches apart to make a border. Then have some people who are at the campground get down at the beach and light those Chinese lanterns right when we finish!

Have a simple bouquet with green stems and a ribbon. Then everyone go up to the Lodge and eat the buffet. So good! Had a normal wedding cake bought at the bakery and taken to the lodge till later. Then stay at one of the nice cabins on the lake for a couple of days! Have it stocked with groceries. Good to GO!

But, it would hurt my dad if he didn't give me away. Thought of that already. My ex, my dad and I stand at the top of the hill. Me in the middle, my dad and I walk down and he says that he and my mother are giving me away, I would walk back up, because that is how much I loved him! and get each others hand and walk back down and marry my best friend.

When I first met my husband, he was working security for a security co. and he was working at Hardee's at a mall. He was standing by the permanent garbage can, I know, lol, and I came flying through the parking lot in my new pinto! He hollered at me and I didn't get what he said! So I drove around and went back through and I was approaching him, I PROMISE this happened! You know when you can see something like a movie and you can't stop it, like a vision, this is what I had. I saw myself in a wedding dress very much what I wore to my wedding holding a bouquet in front of me walking and it was dark all around, but I was all white. And I just shook my head, and I said NO NO NO. Not getting married! Then I drove up to my ex and he was tall and SO handsome! WOW! I was struck by lightning! He said, Hey you need to slow down! I said ok! Then by dumb luck I ran into him the next weekend and he asked me for my phone number and I asked my gf should I give it to him and she said, OH YEAH! I did and the rest is history. 3 boys, 2 dil, 1 grandson.

Now, I can cry.

Dmasy said...

Sue Buddy, that was a great article. I am so glad to see your name back here.

Sue_Buddy said...

jolie, PatK, thank you, thank you. It's fun to be back.

Sue_Buddy said...

localyocul said... 174
Oops I see you did because you replied LOL
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That was so cool. :)

Sue_Buddy said...

Beyond Disgusted said... 178

Ditto! There's a fly or insect person on Twitter who said that Sue Buddy is an angry person. LOL! Sue Buddy has to be the most level-headed, calm, cool and collected person/blogger/tweeter I've seen in a long time!
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An insect person. LOL Thanks, disgusted. Kate's fans appear to be humorless.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

I wish TFW's "source" would address this question. If it's so dang
hard taking care of 8 - count 'em, 8 - kids by yourself, how come a nanny is able to swing it? With children who aren't even her own? And at the same time manage cooking and cleaning and helping
with homework and showers, and supervising farm chores. And
let's not forget the #1, most super-important job, monitoring the
kids' phone calls to their dad, and remembering every word to
report back later?

White Organza said...

"My nephew liked Ghostbusters and I went to the store to pick up a CD for him. I asked the clerk to point me in the direction of the Ballbusters. They were falling down laughing over that one. I have no idea why I said it...it just came out."

Lol, Lynne! I once rushed in my hair salon on my lunch break and asked my hairdresser how much for a just a quick wash and a blowjob... instead of a blow dry. He never let me forget that one. For years after. Every. Single. Time. He. Wrote. My. Tab.

njay said...

Just like TFW (sheeple/source) confirming that the nanny manual is true,

Can you say who that sheeple was or maybe a link? Please? I have missed something.

chefsummer #Leh said...

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 2h
More
@Kateplusmy8 So very true! >> pic.twitter.com/KFEKaL2JPc No one can keep a positive/good woman down! We never give up! :)
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Um....KK gives up on everything.

Sue_Buddy said...

Admin, if I may take a few minutes and space, perhaps it's time to share something that happened recently. I checked my old email account that I used when I signed up for my Twitter account. I don't do it often, but for some reason did not very long ago. I have Twitter set up so when I'm mentioned in a Tweet, I receive an email. I saw that a couple of Kate's "most ardent lickspittles" had been talking about me recently, both claiming I'd written articles about them and put them on Gather.

I'm sure you all know NONE of my articles were about fans or a fan. They were all about Kate.

This particular tweet stood out:

"Was a few attacking me 4 exercising my #FreedomOfSpeech there!Got Gather admin to remove&warn her!#LoserSue"

The tweeter is saying there was [sic] "a few articles' I'd put on Gather attacking the tweeter. Do any of you remember seeing articles I devoted to Kate's fans? Again, not true as can be proven by looking at my articles which have NOT nor were they ever removed, nor did I EVER receive a warning from a Gather Admin.

But what is so hilariously hilarious is that tweeter is claiming I was attacking her right to free speech and in the same sentence brags (albiet it's a lie) that SHE interfered with MY free speech when she got the Gather Admin to REMOVE my articles and was proud of it.

These people truly suffer from "defective" thinking if you get my drift.

Sincerely, #LoserSue

Beyond Disgusted said...

Ditto! There's a fly or insect person on Twitter who said that Sue Buddy is an angry person. LOL! Sue Buddy has to be the most level-headed, calm, cool and collected person/blogger/tweeter I've seen in a long time!
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An insect person. LOL Thanks, disgusted. Kate's fans appear to be humorless.

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This is so true. I couldn't remember the person's Twitter ID -- just that it was a bug of some kind...spider? Ant? Whatever. You're right...they are totally humorless.

I wonder if these sheeple ever go to their own timelines and see how very angry they appear to be. The Lauren tweeter is constantly tweeting about haters, but her own tweets to celebrities are so malicious and nasty. Just makes you shake your head.

Rhymes with Witch said...

These people truly suffer from "defective" thinking if you get my drift. 189

Having followed this saga for years, I find it "so special" how many of the sheeple demand photographic proof while they fabricate things out of thin air and get defensive when they are called out

Sue_Buddy said...

This is so true. I couldn't remember the person's Twitter ID -- just that it was a bug of some kind...spider? Ant? Whatever. You're right...they are totally humorless.
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It's Fly on the Wall, a most lofty goal.

FYI said...

Sue Buddy--I remember seeing those tweets attacking you. Of course, I knew that one about contacting Gather was a total figment of that tweeter's imagination, or should I say delusion.

They'll say anything just so they can "prove" that they were "bullied", especially newcomers who show up on Kate's timeline.

I sometimes think that you scare them with your logical way of thinking.

Future Nurse said...

I never got to read Robert's first book. I am currently reading the rerelease and am on the part about the divorce and how heavily involved Discovery was in it.

I started reading at GWOP before the divorce was even hinted at and have read here for many years. Many times I only read the post and not the comments, but I had no idea that originally Jon was supposed to be the one to file for divorce. The original public statement was also much more amicable and didn't throw anyone under the bus like Kate's revised statement about filing to protect her kids. Reading about the divorce and how it was supposed to play out vs how it actually did made me really sad for Jon. It makes me sick how thoroughly Discovery manipulated the situation so they could get more profit (continue on with Kate Plus 8). This isn't a totally scripted show with actors portraying a character. Jon and the kids are real people who were (and still are) affected by the spin a corporate, who had no business taking sides and manipulating the situation, decided would be best.

If it was a "mutual decision" as had been originally planned, then I really doubt Kate would still be throwing Jon under the bus at every opportunity.

I'm sorry if this has been rehashed to death. I'm just really floored thinking of how different the divorce and post divorce could have been if it was handled as originally planned.

Bill said...

Millicent said... 95

I do know how to change a tire - but I wouldn't want to drive any car that had a tire I had changed on it!
I know how to check my oil level, but I don't know how to change the oil


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Today, I do not consider it important for most people to know how to change the oil since there are so many places which do it inexpensively and properly dispose of the used oil. What everybody needs is an understanding of why regular oil changes are necessary. Like you said, everyone needs to be able to check the oil level. It is also handy to know how to add oil should that be needed.

The same goes for checking the air pressure in the tires and how to do a quick once over for the condition of belts and hoses.

Bill said...

Kirkland said... 79

Before graduating from high school, every person should know how to:


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how to safely unload a gun

...because you never know when your kid might hand you one and say, "I found this on the way home from school."

Removing the ammunition magazine does not completely unload a gun!

Beyond Disgusted said...

This is so true. I couldn't remember the person's Twitter ID -- just that it was a bug of some kind...spider? Ant? Whatever. You're right...they are totally humorless.
::::

It's Fly on the Wall, a most lofty goal.

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lol, Sue Buddy! Thanks for the info. I guess it's better than a dung beetle on a manure heap!

Anonymous said...

Speaking of blow jobs, that's quite the avatar, White Organza. LOL

Sue_Buddy, with the defective, if you say the sky is blue, she'll find a threat in there. Bloviating Lickspittles. (did I get that right or is it redundant?)

PJ

Sue_Buddy said...

KIAT said: I sometimes think that you scare them with your logical way of thinking.
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I'm glad you saw those tweets. My jaw dropped seeing such fantasy, delusion, deliberate puffing up of oneself, whatever it was.

As far as my logic scaring them, maybe so, since they waited a long while, probably thinking I was gone for good, to mention my name.

Oh and BTW, I am not Bud Cooper or whatever the name is. Just because we both have "bud" in on names doesn't make us one in the same, Sherlock.

Beyond Disgusted said...

I do know how to change a tire - but I wouldn't want to drive any car that had a tire I had changed on it!

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Yes, Millicent. Same here. That's why we have AAA. Best money ever spent. If there's a nail on the road, my tire can find it without a GPS.

Beyond Disgusted said...

These people truly suffer from "defective" thinking if you get my drift.

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I think one needs to consider the source (s).

Bill said...

TLC stinks said... 149

I bet MOST of the chickens belong to Forrest. It would seem odd for him to rent land from her since he owns a real farm. There's got to be a financial reason (in her favor) for their arrangement. Interesting comment about the Gator, too. No way was that just for the tups.


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Might Forrest be the neighbor who cuts her grass and gets to keep the hay in exchange?

White Organza said...

"That's quite the avatar, White Organza..."

LOL, PJ!!! I never looked at it in that way! In fact, I chose it in honor of Gumgate... and also because it does represent me somehow because that's how I stopped smoking: chewing on mega wads of pink bubble gum and blowing the biggest bubbles I could whenever I was fighting the urge to light a cigarette. And that's all I'll say before I get myself into trouble, because as I write, I can see that the possibilities for double-entendre on this particular subject are way too high for my comfort zone. :)

Call Me Crazy said...

Dear "#LoserSue" - I'm sorry you had to pick your way through those sheeple droppings. They really are a breed unto themselves.

NJGal51 said...

Sue Buddy - Wink, wink, knudge, knudge, it doesn't take much detecting to get your drift. I've always enjoyed your articles and don't remember any of them being about and or attacking fans. They do have delusions of grandeur which might be one of the reasons they became such staunch supporters of BV. Birds of a feather and all that.

Kirkland - I didn't know that the was a proper technique for cutting a steak so I don't know if I taught it to my son or not. Probably not because I'm one of those that doesn't switch the fork to the right hand after cutting meat. My husband and I are not very handy. We once changed a doorknob but it never worked quite right. One day when our handyman was at the hose to help put up a fan he asked if we wanted him to fix the doorknob because it was on either upside down or backwards (I can't remember which it was). Who knew you could put a round doorknob on the wrong way.

Ingrid said...

I was thinking more about Kirkland's list. I know my 38 yr old daughter doesn't know some of it. but she is pretty darn smart otherwise.

She totally floored me a few weeks ago though. She and her husband and daughter live with me. (get along great and it helps me pay bills) She asked her husband when i was going to fill the LP tank (it was almost empty) so we could start using the air conditioner!!! OMG. I can't believe she didn't really know!

Beth said...

#LoserSue, earlier this week I heard "lickspittle" (possibly when watching Angel) , looked it up on my phone and meant to post that it's the perfect word to describe Kate's minions. I'm a little freaked-out that you used it.

Great column.

Kirkland said...

NJGal51 said... 6

Kirkland - I didn't know that the was a proper technique for cutting a steak so I don't know if I taught it to my son or not. Probably not because I'm one of those that doesn't switch the fork to the right hand after cutting meat. My husband and I are not very handy. We once changed a doorknob but it never worked quite right. One day when our handyman was at the hose to help put up a fan he asked if we wanted him to fix the doorknob because it was on either upside down or backwards (I can't remember which it was). Who knew you could put a round doorknob on the wrong way.

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So funny about the doorknob. When my sisters and I made that list, many of the items were added because of our personal experiences. I added the one about the steak knife. I personally do switch my fork after cutting my meat, but I definitely see the advantage of not switching. No, that's not why I added that to the list. To this day, I still cringe when I see my own son cut his meat. I can't even begin to describe it, but even though he's an adult, he still holds his hand like a fist when cutting meat. Drives me crazy!

And I admit, my Dad used to change my oil when I lived at home. When I left home to live in a different state, I knew nothing about cars. I had a cute Ford Mustang and I drove it until there was absolutely no oil left in that car. I had to abandon it at the side of the road and it was towed away. I sure learned a lesson and I now change my oil religiously. And yes, thank goodness for Jiffy Lube!!

Future Nurse said...

Maybe someone with a good memory or the original copy of the book can help me. In the Where's Aunt Jodi chapter of the book it says, "I happened to come across the following letter that Kate wrote to her manager, Julie May, to tell her side of the story. Kate’s version may or may not be what actually happened, but it’s her perspective on the situation in her own words so, in the interest of fairness, I have included the letter in its entirety."

But there is no letter or summary of the letter there. It goes straight in to things she said years later on Twitter. I assume the letter is one of the things he had to take out of the book because of copyright but he forgot to take out the paragraph leading up to it. Does anyone know what her spin on the Aunt Jodi fiasco was?

(I'm at Kindle Locations 8059-8063 in the new book if that helps anyone.)

Anonymous said...

My poor brother asked me if I knew how to change a tire..I said YES!

You Flip up the hood and look cute and a bunch of cars will stop, and your tire gets fixed! VOILA!!..He shook his head in disgust.

But it worked ,I tells yas, until it didn't.

Then I got out the thingimajiggy, and werked it until all dem numknuts came loose, and changed the dang thang. Me, myself and I were so proud!

Me bro...Not so much.

Although I believe he breathed a sigh of relief, outta my hearing.

At least that is what sil told me, BWAHAHAHA

Didn't tell him how I shifted to second on a downhill when I lost all fluids..Still have that lovely man's numbers, lol

franky

Vanessa said...

Oh my goodness, so much to catch up on. It's like an episode of Scandal!

Vanessa said...

So she didn't want him taking papers that he could uae against her? Isn't that also admitting that she is hiding stuff from him that he legally is entitledaccess to? If he can "use it against her" then it has to be legit info, documents etc. She just really can't stop herself can she? Close your trap pos, just close it.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Vanessa (#13), good point about the paperwork. She's practically
admitting that she has something to hide. And if anything she hides
can adversely effect Jon's children (waves to Remona!), he should
darn well be able to get to the bottom of it. If anything bad was to
happen to them (heaven forbid), you know he'll be blamed somehow
anyway.

Hope you're enjoying your trip, Admin. The pool girls are holding
down the fort just fine!

Tucker's Mom said...

When eating steak, or whatever main protein, if served whole, it's most important to cut one piece at a time, eat, and then cut another.
Whether you're eating American or Continental, this applies.
Table manners and "dining" skills are so important for kids to know.
They will be judged in some social settings, and most business settings.
To that end, know:
How to set a table, all the way to formal, multi-course dinners-this will ensure you know which bread plate and glass is your own.
How to rest utensils and know what order they are used in over the courses
How to use a napkin
How to eat bread and butter
How to eat soup
How to poise resting utensils while you're eating and when you're done eating
How to wait until everyone is served their food before eating
How to do basic wine pairings (optional, but it helps even for conversation)

This is all very formal and a bit stuffy, but it's good to be able to execute because your job may depend on it.

I just hope Kate eventually allows the children to serve themselves and that they learn how to at least eat "family" style.
I doubt it though.

Can you imagine your 15-year old boy sidling up to your counter and portioning out a paltry serving on his plate?

Our friends have 2, count 'em, 2 teen boys, and their mom says they eat them out of house and home.
Kate eventually has to give up with this tiny portion crap.
Growing teens need to eat at will, and not have to ask every single time they want to open the ridge or a cupboard.

NJGal51 said...

Ahhhhh, I get what you mean about the steak knife now Kirkland! My niece cuts her meat that way (at 23) and yes I also cringe waiting for the accident that's going to happen one of these days.

We belong to AAA and give our son a membership every year. W have a handyman and friends that actually know how to do things (and can help us out). We truly are helpless sometimes. However my husband just retired and he's going to take some classes to learn to do basic things around the house. Better late than never.

Tucker's Mom said...

Does anyone know what her spin on the Aunt Jodi fiasco was?
&***********
I have the first book, and will go back and re-read, but IIRC, the gist is that Kate put this spin on the fiasco to make it sound like she beseeched Kevin and Jodi NOT to take any money, for money will ruin everything between them.
You see, Kate didn't want K+J to be compensated because it would not end well, so, she was simply looking out for them.

I will go back and look, and report back, after I throw up a little in my mouth ;-)

Formerly Duped said...

Tucker, I agree. It's awful how many people butter and eat a whole roll etc or talk with a full mouth. Or leave caps on at the table.Not stuffy; basic manners needed.

Kate sure doesn't have them nor does she teach them. I remember kids eating with their fingers at a fairly 'old age' (Cara, age 10?) or not waiting till everyone is seated- for the show occasionally Kate would have them say a fake grace after they had started eating, and they looked surprised. But I guess eating off paper pates and not given a knife or a proper glass wouldn't help...

JoyinVirginia said...

OT: interesting things on TV
We watched repeat of first episode of Extant last night, it is very interesting with an intriguing premise and has lots of possibilities.
Under the Dome is back, my sister in law loves this show.
Big Brother is in full throttle alliance square dance mode, the alliances shift so much, and I am loving the secret Team America this summer. hamster watching is so fun!
Defiance is back on the SyFy channel, its an intriguing post apocalyptic tale with lots of interesting characters and terrific performances.
Loving the Wil Wheaton Project, its The Soup for science fiction, fantasy, real science fans.
The judges on Americas Got Talent are almost as much fun as the performers. And Last Comic Standing has some REALLY FUNNY people on the show that I want to see more of.
the dh and I still are watching fun kung fu and grind house movies on El Rey Network. Love the unedited Hong Kong kung fu films, the action sequences from these forty and fifty year old films are amazing. Watched the young Jackie Chan in Drunken Master the other week, and learned a little about real Chinese history.
Anyone else watching anything you really enjoy? I have heard about interesting films and TV shows and books from posters here and always appreciate the recommendations.

Tucker's Mom said...

"Where's Aunt Jodi?"

Summarizing from Robert's first release:

Jodi was paid (assume by TLC) for babysitting while J+K filmed. Kate claims this was great because at least the kids would be with family when they were away.
Sounds good so far.
This arrangement went on for a while.
Then, TLC wanted to offer honorariums or per-appearance fees for those who became part of the cast.
K+J were not the only ones asking, and Kate apparently thought that if other people were being paid, there would be less for her.

"it seemed as if everyone we knew was assuming we suddenly had plenty of money to share with anyone who helped us in any way- and most everyone was asking to be paid..."

So Kate put her foot down and said no one else gets paid, couching it on the magnanimous notion that it would ruin relationships.

The gist of Kate's account is that Kevin + Jodi found out that Kate put the kabosh on them getting paid to appear on the show, and that Kevin wanted more money for babysitting in lieu of that- in fact, she charged that Kevin got very greedy, and wanted Kate to negotiate a high appearance fee for him and Jodi, and that he's kick some back to her.

Kate's view is that cutting K+J off from being paid for being on the show (not just for babysitting and getting 'helper' fees when filming and traveling) would save their relationship.

Kate feels like this is when K+J turned on filming the kids, and publicly opposed it.

The passages written by Kate make Kevin out to be very greedy.
After all, Jodi was getting paid to babysit at her home and as a helper when traveling during filming.
Kate stated that Kevin wanted to be paid to appear on the Hawaii episodes, in addition to getting a free trip and getting paid as a helper/babysitter.

I can't say I know what to believe, or exactly where the truth lies.
One on hand, it sounds like Kate felt that if other people got paid to appear (in addition to being paid helper/babysitter fees and getting free everything that comes along with filming on or off location), there would be less money for her, and, people were getting greedy and that would ruin relationships, which she admitted, had dwindled precipitously.
On the other hand, it seems Kate wanted to control who was getting paid what, and I think she made a tempest in a teapot.

Who knows if K+J got paid handsomely to appear on the show, if history would be the same.

TLC stinks said...

Bill, I assume the grass cutter for hay was the Amish guy, Henry, but it could be Forrest. It appears Kate has some side deal going on with him, which is fine, except: the boys are doing the work and I assume they get zero of the money earned; she is lying that all those chickens are HERS. And, I wonder what the tax break consequences are because I assume she is claiming that and gets a reduction in her property taxes. OK, that's also fair but geez, she's a freakin' MILLIONAIRE. she sure can squeeze blood from a rock but I guess every bit of it is for her personally.

lukebandit said...

About kate getting in a twist about people that helped them and the kids getting paid. She was so afraid that it would lessen her more money. Did she not realize that TLC/Discovery had DEEP pockets and was a Sugar Daddy? I have posted for years that TLC should of went to who they wanted to pay that was on the show helping and secretly negotiated payments and sign CA's to protect who was getting paid without ate's knowledge.

It was only fair. Ate has the nerve to do this when she got a free whole organic cow and offered Jodi half of it, not for free but to pay for it. She didn't even pay for it. A normal person would of given her the half because of her helping taking care of the kids even when they were all sick and Ate and Jon went across the country to get laser eye surgery and hair plugs for Jon because they were free.

I can't wait when the kids get of age and they realize how horribly their childhood was taken away from them working without proper compensation. Then maybe Martin Sangus?, Robert's attorney will take their case pro-bono and TLC/Discovery will have to dig deep into those deep pockets and compensate 8 little faces for pain, suffering and allowing their mentally ill mother to keep on filming and exploiting them for a huge financial gain.

lukebandit said...

More book sales overnight. The daily average of the book selling is 68-72 a day! Total right now is: 1226 in 18 days. Average: 68.1.

I haven't figured out how to get the total of the cookbook sales. It just says June and July sales. Her book has been out 16 months. Can't believe it has been that long ago.

Formerly Duped said...

There was a different Amish man who let the boys try on his hat when the chickens arrived, IIRC It wasn't Henry- I had the feeling Henry's vegetable stand and farm were some distance away. Was this man was the neighbor whose farm they visited and the kids drank all that milk? If so it must be Forrest.The kids really acted up on that farm visit and were disrespectful- of course they had to walk a mile on the road in boots that didn't fit.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

OK, that's also fair but geez, she's a freakin' MILLIONAIRE. she sure can squeeze blood from a rock but I guess every bit of it is for her personally.
____________

It's the millionaires that get all the tax breaks. They all have their accountants who find every deduction for them. That's just not a Kate thing. Yes, it's unfair. Remember the old saying, "Them that's got gets?" That's always the way it's been and always the way it will be.

I have several very wealthy friends. They couldn't conceive of the fact that I don't pay federal taxes. It cracked me up. They receive SS too, but also dividends off lots of investments. I guess they assumed everyone has enough money coming in that they pay taxes.

Formerly Duped said...

I remember how rude it was when Kate said she didn't blame the kids for not wanting to go to Jodi's one day! Jodi paid them more attention than Kate ever would. I remember she also dealt well with Mady hitting the tups and lying. She let them bake special recipes and played pretend coffee with Joel and dress-up.She also helped with the potty training with no spanking! The kids were happy there with their cousins. And when Jodi and Kevin watched all the kids when Jon had his hair procedure- her own and the G kids were ill. Jodi was so patient and cuddled Joel, so different than Kate's banishing him to the laundry room floor. Kevin emptied the potties. I thought they were so sweet and loving- h0w could Kate deprive her children of such a nurturing relationship! For $$$$$$$.

Sara said...

On the Tups 10th bday special she was pouring milk from one of Forrests milk jugs. I bet my last dollar she is raising some of his chickens in exchange for milk. The problem lies in the fact that Forrest would not actually be raising them on his land or tending to them at all, merely doling out the instructions. In fact, when you buy hens/eggs at his farm, the Gosselin boys may very well have raised them.

More deception and more work for the kids, and quite possibly why Collin isn't allowed to leave on the weekends.

Forrest should never have involved himself with her.

Sara

Sara said...

Moving the chickens quickly may be necessary for a big buyer, and thus the gator.

Sara

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