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Beth's relationships with the children, whom she says she helped watch
for "a week at a time," was always very loving and warm. In this screen capture
from Gosselins Go Sking, Beth tells Aaden that she has to go home early for her
daughter's birthday but that she would like to take Aaden with her in her suitcase.
Aaden responds with enthusiastic and adorable nodding.
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- Beth wrote Multiple Blessings "absolutely" all herself, and she and Kate had agreed to a 50-50 split of the proceeds. Kate later tried to take back the deal and cut her down to at least a third. Beth had a lawyer and made sure she got her original cut.
- Beth's friendship with Kate ended after Kate cut Beth off from the promotion of Multiple Blessings (despite tweets from Kate in 2011 claiming Beth is still in her life). Beth confirms that is a lie, that she hasn't spoken to Kate "for years and years."
- Beth tried to keep up the relationship with Jon afterward, but it got "messy."
- Beth "purposely" has not commented for years.
Meanwhile, when asked if what Beth is saying is true, Kate responded on twitter: "no." Give it up, Kate.
1189 sediments (sic) from readers:
«Oldest ‹Older 801 – 1000 of 1189 Newer› Newest»The purpose of flash cards is to reinforce memorization of the subject, not to foster critical thinking. The education system expects you to be able to remember 11 X 11 is 121 without doing the calculation in your head. Its been almost 40 years since I was their age and I can still remember the multiplication tables to 12, but for anything above that, like 14 X 11, I have to take the time to multiply it out.
I don't think it is cute that she tweets her kids mistakes. Remember her correcting the tetanus error? The only purpose it serves is to try to make her look smarter than her kids. Guess what? A 39 year old woman should be smarter than a 10 year old. You don't need to broadcast it to the world. Wouldn't it be better for the kids to see Kate praising them when they get something right on their own instead of seeing her try to take credit for everything they do.
That sounds like something a 5 year old would say.
Mike, I agree. Not cute--sad! From what I have seen on the shows and in Kate's tweets, the lack of academic and social development amongst the sextuplets is disturbing. An argument can be made it's because they're preemies, but I think that's only part of the problem, if any part at all. I think the problem is Kate, and that is based on so many things it could be an entirely new thread of discussion.
Mel said... 14
That sounds like something a 5 year old would say
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Yep, which is why Kate totally made up that tweet. Her kids are in an excellent academically-focused school and would not be at the level at which Kate "tweets" that they are. This scenarios Kate tweets are totally in her head.
Wow, Bluebird! What a fantastic concert you saw! And I have to say, the scenery in your country is pretty spectacular as well!
Just to be clear, Kate never said she was doing the flashcards with the kids. She's got homework helpers for this, possibly even the twins. She probably just overheard the screaming from H as she was about to doze off with the bird after a busy morning of being rude to area store clerks. She needed the nap after hiking up to the nosebleed section of the arena where 1D played the night before.
The life of the 1%.
Joan Parks @nanniefila 5m
@CJWhodunit @Kateplusmy8 I'd have to do that one on paper not in my head.
lol, well, okay, then! It's simple division. 12 squared. Geez...
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Woah easy now...lol they're KK sheep so give them a break.
All they have to do is take how many kids Kk has which is 8 and how many pets she has which is 4 divided by 144 then they have their answer.
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@EmCr68: I could eat this little squish up�� #DaBabyCousin pic.twitter.com/MucaoUtC1s
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Whoa, shades of Single White Female.
I watched it! HOLY MOLY!
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Em would have to take Milo's spot first.
handinhand said... 18
Just to be clear, Kate never said she was doing the flashcards with the kids. She's got homework helpers for this, possibly even the twins. She probably just overheard the screaming from H as she was about to doze off with the bird after a busy morning of being rude to area store clerks. She needed the nap after hiking up to the nosebleed section of the arena where 1D played the night before.
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Great post. You're probably right too
hehe, Single White Female is the best! I have it on DVD.The book it's based on, same title is also excellent.
About the division, that's 4th grade here. Maybe Kate is having the homework helper get the kids ahead of the game. But if you hear the words "shriek" or "scream" you know the story is embellished or a lie.
I've always had trouble with math and am terrible at mental math (dyscalculia?) but even I could do that simple problem. TFW does her kids no favors when she tweets things like this. BTW, didn't CJ claim to be a teacher? Why would she have to put pencil to paper for this problem?
Great comments MikeB.
I think that since we have such a wide variety of smart cookies on here with good taste to boot - we should come up with a compilation of TFW's greatest blunders soundtrack. We've already got three (I think) from Culture Club so that's a start ;-) It could be named something like the "Now That's What I Call..."
I'm bored with her mediocre antics and think a group project would be fun. Plus my dog has decided that gravel is omm nomm and I need a distraction. Guess who will be having text/photo conversations with her vet today? Yays! I need Franzia...
An argument can be made it's because they're preemies, but I think that's only part of the problem, if any part at all. I think the problem is Kate
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Just judging by what we've seen on the show and her tweets, which she keeps insisting is all real, real real, it's Kate.
It's the lack of stimulation. Kate is up at 5am and heads straight to the kitchen and stirs her cauldron of witch's stew all day her bird on her shoulder. The kids are left to do choring and play on iPads. When it's time for bed they watch American Idol.
That's not enough stimulation. They need to be reading, watching educational programs on channels like PBS. They need to go out and about to the various historical sites in PA, the museums, the many other learning opportunities. They need summer projects. Building something and learning how to do that. Art projects going on. Painting, sculpting, photography. Music lessons. Competitive sports and camps. A professional nanny from an agency would see it as their role to arrange all these sorts of things. A "babysitter" that you cheaped out on may not.
Admin @23: Good post and so true. A good babysitter will do all that if asked or if he/she has initiative.I agree the kids are left to their own devices which probably leads to even more arguing than if they are properly focused and stimulated.Splitting them up other than girls vs boys would be good, too. A boy with a girl- get to know one another and reduce the animosity.
BTW, didn't CJ claim to be a teacher? Why would she have to put pencil to paper for this problem?
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I don't even see who pencil and paper would help you much with that problem in the first place. Is she seriously doing 12 goes into 14 1 time then 14 minus 12 is 2 bring down the four twelve goes into 24 2 so the answer is 1-2, 12?? You've got to be joking.
Sleepless, Gwen is the singer for No Doubt and Gavin is the singer for Bush. They are also fashion icons and followed by the paps a whole lot. http://www.people.com/article/gwen-stefani-pharrell-williams-the-voice-first-photo-adam-levine-blake-shelton-season-7
BTW, didn't CJ claim to be a teacher? Why would she have to put pencil to paper for this problem?
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CJ didn't tweet that. Someone tweeted it to her.
They'll keep of for getting we're talking about KK's sheep here. These are the same people. Who ask do they need to open a can first in-order to cook from a can lol.
I'm surprised her sheep know how to get dressed in the morning wo supervision or a Q&A from their quen.
Splitting them up other than girls vs boys would be good, too. A boy with a girl- get to know one another and reduce the animosity.
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Agree. Their divisions are extremely concerning.
The Dilleys did a great job with their kids and one thing they did was a lot of mixing and intermingling of the kids. In particular, two of the kids happened to like dancing, a boy and a girl. So they palled up. Stuff like that prevents it from being boys vs girls, especially since there were only 2 girl in that set making it easier for the boys to gang up.
I don't buy the preemie thing either. One of my gd's was very premature. She was caught up by age 4. No difference at that time between her and her pre school classmates.
Although she didn't spend her days confined to her home, watching videos of herself when she was 2, either.
Maybe instead of grifting, maybe she should of been Groupon-ing!
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I didn't know that the Kings of Leon sang, S** on Fire. A young man with a HUGE afro on Britian's X-Factor sang it for his audition! He sat the place on FIRE! He was really, really good. Even Simon was singing along. Never saw that before. His name is Jamie Archer, but they call him Jamie Afro because of this hair! I wished the lyrics were different like, My love is on fire, then the next chorus, Your love is on fire, then the last, Our love is on fire. I love the part where he says, you know what, we are the BEST! Here is the link:
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It's @nanniefila who tweeted that I see now, she just tweeted it TOO CJ.
Well what a big surprise, the first thing on her twitter is something about supporting Israel. Lol that was part of my sheeple average "profile" the other day!
Bluebird, your travels sound wonderful!
And yes, TFMJG is boring.
the goings on in the Big Brother house are just crazy! So much backstabbing and rumors and lying and switching alliances that I am getting whiplash from trying to keep up.
I would watch TFMJG in a celebrity version of Big Brother! Maybe she could go to Great Britain, they have a celeb version.
I don't even see who pencil and paper would help you much with that problem in the first place. Is she seriously doing 12 goes into 14 1 time then 14 minus 12 is 2 bring down the four twelve goes into 24 2 so the answer is 1-2, 12?? You've got to be joking.
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Here's another one who apparently can't do a times table, but she can multiple in her head? Good grief. I'm no math person, but even I can look at it and know immediately what the answer is.
Dana Evans @djsadlerfan 2m
@Kateplusmy8 Just looking at the problem makes me want to run. I can add, subtract, and multiply in my head. I can't divide large numbers.
My mistake. Thanks for the correction Tweet-le De.
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Joy in Virginia said...35
I totally agree! Ate would be so great at lying, backstabbing, master planning, causing rifts between alliances. I wonder if Steve would choose to accompany her to Big Brother in Britian. She should be on a soap opera as the villain. I have always said that about that horrible Casey Anthony. She lived in Orlando, she could applied and made a career out of being on reality shows. BB, Buck Wild and Bret Michaels shows come to mind. Those would of gotten her foot in the reality show door. Her manipulating, deceiving skills were unprecedented. She would of been the one to hate.
But she chose a different route and a precious angel suffered because of it.
At age 10 and going into fourth grade, they don't know their multiplication (12 times 12)? If I were Kate, I sure wouldn't admit this. But wait, she claims they are at the top of their class. Sheesh!
Can someone post the total sales of the ebook in June? I have July and Aug. and would like to see the total overall sales. TIA!
Okay what age did everyone her learn their times table?
Me age 8 if I remember right.
June sales of E-book: 572.
I get 3,051 books sold to date including the paperback. Not too bad since the end of June!
They need to be reading, watching educational programs on channels like PBS. They need to go out and about to the various historical sites in PA, the museums, the many other learning opportunities. They need summer projects. Building something and learning how to do that. Art projects going on. Painting, sculpting, photography. Music lessons. Competitive sports and camps
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I guess I'm in the minority here, and while planned activities are good to some degree, I don't think they need a steady diet of it in the summer. They should have all of that going on during the school term. We didn't have summer reading when I was a kid (and none of us forgot how to read by the time school resumed in the fall).
We didn't have projects. We rode our bikes around the neighborhood, played in everyone's yard, went to VBS, waded in the creek, and came home for supper when Mom or Grandmother rang the bell. We planned our own activities, and never lacked for anything to do. We looked forward to a few days at the beach, made memories on the boardwalk and sand in Atlantic City, and had the times of our lives, and later summer camp (which I think would be great for all of the Gosselin kids). We all grew up to graduate from college, many got master's degrees and some even their PhD degrees (with the D), and have respectable careers. One is a notable surgeon, one is a district attorney, and the one who, at about age 10 decided to "borrow" a neighbor's lawnmower to see how it worked, spent years with the FBI (minus the tip of his little finger).
Not that there is anything wrong with summer projects, but it seems that kids these days get very bored doing the fun things that we did during the summer and had the times of our lives doing them. I guess times they are a changin.
They shouldn't have poked the bear:
http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2014/08/kate-gosselin-didnt-write-any-multiple-blessings-book-beth-carson-author/
Jeanne: Kate does not like to break up a set/6 pk/team. Kate treats the twin and the tups as sets, not individuals. Though the twins are giving her a run for the money, on being individuals. Good for them. Kate held all 6 back a grade cause 2 were not ready for kindergarden, but the 4 others were, and Kate was also counting on filming till they were in college, if 4 are ready for kindergarden and 2 are not, it would have made it difficult to film them. Kate is also of the mind set: they were born together, they have to do things together, and stay together, play together, never mind, they are not identical and are individuals with different likes, hobbies, sports etc. It is taxing right now for Kate to do 2 kids in activities(the twins), much less have the other 6 in separate activities, and her going/complaining of driving all over to let the kids be in anything. So if there are activities that all 6 can be in then, Kate might consider putting the tups in it. The only reason one tup boy is going to the neighboring farm is so that kid, can be traded his work for veggies, and he can take care of the chickens that Kate had originally wanted. Kate is a lazy mom, I would not have a problem if she was a working mom, but she is home all day. What the hell does she do all day? And to have part-time help, so she says, I'm thinking, they are full time help.
Any former viewers of ABC's "Multiplication Rock" videos out
there? They covered the 12 times table in "Little Twelvetoes."
Maybe it's time to skip that 7th showing of "Princess Diaries 2"
and make sure the kids are up to speed with their schoolwork.
New article on ROL about Beth.
http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2014/08/kate-gosselin-didnt-write-any-multiple-blessings-book-beth-carson-author/
It's really just a reiteration of the previous articles with a couple of new quotes such as:
"“Kate and I would sit around feeding our babies, and Kate would talk. I would take notes and made it into a book,” Carson told Radar.
“Absolutely. I wrote the entire thing. Kate didn’t write one word of the book. I wanted to take nothing away from the fact that it was her story, but I put a lot of work into it.”
It also mentions the book tour interview where Kate said:
“That process wasn’t hard,” Kate answered in a 2008 interview in Michigan at a book signing when asked about authoring it.
“It was the time to write the book. It took us a year and a half. I started when the little kids were two and to re-live all of those things that we had been through was probably the most difficult part. As far as the book went, that was easy.”
PA Dutchmom: I remember those summers, but then it was a lot safer, back then and a lot of moms did not work. In Chicago area, some freak tried to kidnap 2 kids from their backyard, yesterday. Your kid is not even safe in your own backyard.
But there are activities kids can go to: day camp, kiddie college, vacation bible school, kid camp college, etc. If parents are able to put your kid in an activity they should do so, or have grandma/grandpa, or even the nanny/sitter, take the kids to the activity. We unfortunately live in a very different world, from the one you & I and a lot of others here grew up in. Too many freaks out there who ruin it for everyone.
It is a different era and also college applications are far more competitive than back in the day. Without a wide variety of experiences and activities it is hard to get a foot in the door to embark upon a career like being a doctor. For better or worse kids today are expected to be very well rounded, experienced and leaders. One of the best ways to do this is involve them in the mentioned activities. Sports is another area that's totally different. You can't get a scholarship these days by just working hard on the high school team. Rarely anyway. You need to start very young, play year round and have lessons. Same wth music, arts, etc. These kids are going to get left behind if they spend their summers in their rooms or on their iPads.
Admin is right. In today's world, acceptance into universities/colleges are very competitive. Students today must not only have good grades, good test scores, but have a range of extracurricular activities and service activities outside of the school world.
PA Dutch Mom, I agree with you too; we always made our own fun on top of some structured activities and sightseeing etc. These kids do not leave the property ( unless with Jon) that we know of, and do not partake of the joys of summer with friends. They only have one another to fight with or to 'play school' with. Chores to do.My own kids had a mixture of some fun summer classes where they learned about something they enjoyed, swimming lessons, summer sports, library club etc. They also were free to laze about the backyard with a book or organize a game or picnic with pals. Family outings. None of this for the G kids, sadly.I remember how Kate would get so 'exhausted-ish" just sitting in the plastic chair while the kids aimlessly played in the garage and driveway. On the new property they could be doing a lot- I hope so.
There's another story up ~
http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2014/08/kate-gosselin-didnt-write-any-multiple-blessings-book-beth-carson-author/
TLC stinks said... 2
She sure dressed the part as a tease for the concert. If Steve is indeed back with Gina, I can see Kate dressing like a vamp to show him what he is missing. It's so, so obvious she dresses like that for him.
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Often times, this form of taunting and teasing ("Lookie what you cant have") is a sign of childhood sexual abuse, usually from a much older, 'trusted' adult male in the child's life. Combine it with the narcissistic personality disorder and you get a trampy looking 40 year old like Kart or someone acting out in outrageous and obscene fashion like Miley Cyrus.
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Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said... 7
Are you saying they are a couple yet Kate pays him to accompany her? Steve is a gigolo?
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Another word for that is prostitute.
Getting into a D1 university is HARD. Not only are today's high school graduates competing against their American peers, it's a global application process...and most schools no longer care if mom and dad went to that particular school. Kids get in on SAT/ACT scores, essays, extracurricular involvement and volunteer work. It's a brutal process (my kids have been there, done that). College application deadlines have also shortened Prospective students that are on their toeswill have their college application submitted to the colleges of their choice BEFORE they start their first day of their senior year in high school!
Twenty years ago,college bound kiddos received admission to most universities they applied to. Today,those rates have been cut by more than half. (the university my kids went to/are still going to has an acceptance rate of 30%). And if they want to get into a particular major, that is a WHOLE DIFFERENT BALL GAME.
As far as sports is concerned, kids that only participate in UIL school sports are limiting themselves. Scouts will look FIRST at your child's club team results, USTA record, etc.
jcb
Students today must not only have good grades, good test scores, but have a range of extracurricular activities and service activities outside of the school world.
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Which can all be done during the school year. Summer is short. At age 10, let them be kids in the summer. Those months go by so fast. Whatever happened to "inventive" or imaginative play? Why must everything be structured and planned out for kids? There's nothing wrong with going on summer outings, taking music lessons, or whatever, but my gosh, there's such a thing as overkill.
**In 2013 the mother-of-eight released a cookbook, Love is in the Mix: Making Meals into Memories, and it was quickly criticized by fans who claimed the recipes in her book were stolen “from product boxes and magazine articles.”**
Um. No Amber. Her fans - all six of them - didn't criticize the book. They drooled over it.
I wish today's Radar article included the tweet where TFW was asked if what Beth Carson is saying is true; as well as the response which was "no". In fact I think today's article was likely because of that tweet because it is basicly the same as the one a few days ago.
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They shouldn't have poked the bear.
http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2014/08/kate-gosselin-didnt-write-any-multiple-blessings-book-beth-carson-author/ 46
I have to repeat: Amber Ryland is nobodies' fool.
The sheeple on the other hand........
Admin said:
That's not enough stimulation. They need to be reading, watching educational programs on channels like PBS. They need to go out and about to the various historical sites in PA, the museums, the many other learning opportunities. They need summer projects. Building something and learning how to do that. Art projects going on. Painting, sculpting, photography. Music lessons. Competitive sports and camps. A professional nanny from an agency would see it as their role to arrange all these sorts of things. A "babysitter" that you cheaped out on may not.
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It would be nice if those children had a great deal more stimulation and extracurricular activity, but that would cut into their chore time, so it ain't gonna happen.
When I was a kid, back in the 60's and 70's, summer time was indeed a time for lazing around. We could sleep in. We had a swimming pool, so on hot days we might take a dip in the pool. We had plenty of books to read. My parents didn't have a lot of extra money, and my mom was plenty busy just running the household, but we managed to have plenty of fun. Sometimes we had aunts and uncles and cousins come to visit for a week-end. We loved having the company, showing our cousins the creek, playing in the fort down in our field, barbequing hot dogs and hamburgers, trying to avoid the yellow jackets!
We had daily chores, like feeding our chickens, watering the vegetable garden, folding laundry and putting it away. But these were all quickly taken care of. We could have friends over, and we'd set up a tent in the back yard for the sleepover. We had a horse too, and we would saddle him up and go riding in the field across the street. At the time, it was fairly open and after riding back aways, there was a big patch of blackberry bushes. We'd pick the warm sweet berries and get all scratched up from the thorns, then argue a little among ourselves as to which one got to ride our horse back to the house - when he knew it was time to head home, he'd take off at a strong gallup!
I don't get the impression that Gosselin kids get to enjoy these types of little pleasures in life, and that's what makes me sad for them. I hope when they are with their dad, they get to just "be" and I think their happiest memories from childhood will probably be of times they spent with their father.
Paula said... 52
Admin is right. In today's world, acceptance into universities/colleges are very competitive. Students today must not only have good grades, good test scores, but have a range of extracurricular activities and service activities outside of the school world.
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Yep. This is very much emphasized in the schools these days - or at least in my son's middle and high schools. In his first two years of high school, he played football and did track. In his junior year, he is on the ASB and plans to run for student body president next year. He volunteers at various school events and other community events. He has been part of a college-bound program for the past 3 years and takes 6 weeks of classes each summer to prepare him for his next year's courses. All this because he knows when he applies for college, they will expect him to be "well-rounded." It sounds exhausting to me!
PA Dutch Mom said... 57 .....Which can all be done during the school year
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Not necessarily. If you have a heavy load of honors classes and/or AP classes, that doesn't leave much time for the extracurriculars.
This isn't the world we grew up in. We didn't need top grades, top SAT scores, extra-curriculars,,etc., to get into an acceptable college. Kids do now.
Bluebird - thanks for your kind words about the USA. Yes, this country has so much to offer. I think Canada is a beautiful country too and wish I had the opportunity to visit there more often. I've been to Vancouver and Toronto. Would love to see more of the country in between!
MiChi said... 8
............ 5) This was intentional! We saw in the specials how dedicated Kate is to keeping up her persona that she's just a normal, hard-working single mom! "See, guys, I'm sitting in the nosebleed seats just like you!"
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I wondered that as well. It goes with the new/old/intermittent "piecing and patching" persona.
I think at age 10 the kids should be enjoying themselves and also be learning about what interests them. Not left as a 'pack' where girls rule and boys get slapped and insulted and ordered around. I really think changing the dynamics would be great; also pair a twin with a tup for a change- maybe Mady will grow to 'like' her siblings.
“That was sort of the last straw, it was a smack in the face ,” Carson said.
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That smack in the face had to sting. It's just so typical of Kate to get someone to do all the work for her so she can take the credit. Not only did she want all the money she wanted the limelight too. Kate the Koveter was too busy trying to mimic Beth and people might have sensed that. They might have even liked Beth more than her and we can't have that.
Here's what she said about it (from "Never Before Seen" episode, pt. 2 , J&K+8, www.digitalspy.ca):
Kate says that her dream was to go on just one book tour for the experience but she ended up really enjoying meeting the fans.
"They are so excited and have such enthusiasm that it splashes on to me and you can't help but smile," she says. "You kind of get addicted to it because you're making people's days and it kind of makes you want to do it more."
From the ROL article.
“Kate and I would sit around feeding our babies, and Kate would talk. I would take notes and made it into a book,” Carson told Radar.
“Absolutely. I wrote the entire thing. Kate didn’t write one word of the book. I wanted to take nothing away from the fact that it was her story, but I put a lot of work into it.”
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Good for you Beth and Amber. Keep poking the bear sheeple.
That Kate tried to push Beth out of her rightful share of the book (including authorship) is even more insulting after this article. Beth said Kate didn't write a word. What's more, when they were feeding babies, Kate talked and Beth took all the notes for the book. Kate couldn't even be bothered to jot a few notes or scribble in a few edits for her own family story? Lazy as the day is long that one. And then to want to take all the credit and fight to get Beth's name removed? Despicable.
I was speaking about older children, obviously, not 10 year olds. Mady and Cara are certainly at the age where they need to start thinking ahead if attending college is something they want to pursue. But even at 10 this is the time for them to branch out and find out what interests them, not stuck inside all day long - with that I agree.
Math Girl said... 65
MiChi said... 8
............ 5) This was intentional! We saw in the specials how dedicated Kate is to keeping up her persona that she's just a normal, hard-working single mom! "See, guys, I'm sitting in the nosebleed seats just like you!"
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I wondered that as well. It goes with the new/old/intermittent "piecing and patching" persona.
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She has nothing to worry about then. Out of that whole big crowd only two people cared enough to mention her on twitter and take her pic on their phone.
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@Kimzolciak @Kateplusmy8 any advice for someone in college to be a RN?
OMG, could you ask two more inappropriate people for advice about nursing?!?!?!?
She has nothing to worry about th71en. Out of that whole big crowd only two people cared enough to mention her on twitter and take her pic on their phone. 71
She must be so relieved that those hordes of paps that she hated so much are a thing of the past.
heh, heh.
Anonymous said... 56
Getting into a D1 university is HARD. Not only are today's high school graduates competing against their American peers, it's a global application process...and most schools no longer care if mom and dad went to that particular school. Kids get in on SAT/ACT scores, essays, extracurricular involvement and volunteer work. It's a brutal process (my kids have been there, done that). College application deadlines have also shortened
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When I was a senior in high school, I wouldn't have known the term "D1 university." My son already knows how colleges are categorized. It is indeed a different world, and I for one am sorry that getting into college has become so difficult. A college education should be more readily available to anyone who wants to attend, even if they don't have the best grades, or didn't do 101 extracurricular activities to prove they somehow deserve a coveted slot. Unfortunately, the process has become exclusionary where it was once inclusionary.
As I took my afternoon walk today, I was ruminating on how I'm going to pay for my son's college. He'll work during the summers to help offset the expenses, but most of it will fall on my shoulders. His dad is unlikely to help out. Believe it or not, one option available to me is to move into a small cottage on my parents' property, rent free. I do not want my son to be saddled with a huge student loan debt, so while he may take out some loans, we're going to restrict the total amount borrowed to something manageable for when he graduates. Crazy stuff! My parents didn't have to twist into pretzels like this, but that's how today's economy and today's realities are.
And that, TFW, is an example of a single mother doing some real piecin' and patchin'.
I think the perks for the twins are their "currency" with TFW. They
are old enough now to rebel when asked to keep an eye on the 6,
with whom they often have an adversarial relationship. If Mom's
going to flounce off and leave them in charge when she runs off
for mani/pedis or tanning or mailbox visits, that may now come
at a price.
In 3 years, TFW will have 8 teenagers. If what you all said about
the update special is any indication, she is in no way prepared for
what's to come. Come and git yer popcorn!
“That was sort of the last straw, it was a smack in the face ,” Carson said.
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Makes you wonder what some of the other straws were that pushed Beth toward this being the last.
I think Beth makes it clear she took her own notes as Kate spoke, between the lines emphasizing she did not use the journals personally as material for the book.I think it's smart to distance herself from those damning journals. Hope this is what happened.
My son was an average student in high school. When he was ready for college he went to the local junior college for the first year and a half and got all his basic required classes out of the way. In my state if you do that you have automatic acceptance to any of the state colleges. He went to the "real" college of his choice without having to take SAT's, write essays or be a straight A student in high school and since he had all of the basic courses out of the way he was able to concentrate on his major. You should look into that in your state. He also took an American Sign Language course which they accepted as his "foreign" language credit. You just need to do your research for the little things they don't tell you. He's got a great job in the field of his choice and his diploma looks just as good on the wall as the child's who got ulcers in HS over college acceptance.
Off topic, but...I was checking out some properties in and around Lancaster with my SIL, who is contemplating moving. What a beautiful area! She is looking in Lancaster/Lititz/Manheim areas. I had to wonder,--why didn't Kate and Jon move to that area? Why did they end up in Wernersville? There are so many huge, beautiful homes on acreage in/near Lancaster, plus the kids go to school there, Kate likes to shop at the Park City mall (in fact, Robert mentioned in the book how Kate would drive an hour to shop there rather than at the local mall), and she has mentioned restaurants she likes there. They have to drive an hour to go see Mady in a school play or Cara's sports events. Wouldn't it have made sense to find a comparable house near Lancaster and cut out the daily commute for the kids and the long drive to go to places she likes there?
Just wondering--did she ever explain why she wanted to live in the Reading area? Why she would choose to live in "Ghettoville" rather than a more upscale area that she seems to like better? It's not like they had friends or family in Berks county any more. I don't get it!
Joining in the university/college admission discussion. I work at a 4-year university.
Yes, it is very competitive to get into a good 4-year university. As state funding has been less and less available universities had to look at inventive ways to fund the institutions. They looked to international students because in some cases they pay almost twice as much as US students. Add on top that foreign governments will fund their students to attend US institutions; Saudi Arabia and China are big contributors. Institutions then change the US/foreign ratio to include more international students (more money), meaning it has become more competitive for US students to be admitted. The competitive admission process is a fall out from the recession.
The other thing that is happening is the admission ceiling is being raised to accommodate more international students but the number is staying the same for US students. Same number of slots for US students, more students wanting in, thus the admission standards are more competitive.
Will someone tell me how many books Robert has sold? got my today. yea, yea!
@ljohnson2006: See @PBandJenelley_1 your constant abuse of animals has caught the attention of @peta. Animal abuse is never ok!
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This from a staunch Kate supporter. I guess it depends on who's doing the abusing.
Each state has different admission requirements. In Texas, kids graduating in the top 10% of their class gain automatic admission to a state public university (but they still have to meet course requirements, ACT/SAT scores, etc). But keeping that coveted spot takes lots of work, going to tutoring (some for profit tutoring businesses last until 1am) and working their butts off. Kids have to be careful not to take too many dual credit classes in high school--take too many and you are considered a transfer student---it's harder for a transfer student to gain admittance than an incoming freshman! And what happens if a university gives you that golden ticket and you turn it down? Guess what..you can never re-apply.
Two of my kids wanted admission into a certain degree field. Among the 12000 kids admitted each yr, only 700 are admitted into this college. My kids were fortunate in that they gained admittance to their chosen field. They were told at their new student conferences: "look to your left, look to your right, one of you will not be here in January'.
scary stuff.
Yes, Kate's kids are young. But it's time she pull her head out and start thinking long term.
jcb
Millicent said...
Millicent, I really hope things work out well for you and your son. Yes, you are an example of a piecing and patching single mother. A lot of other ladies on here are or were. So was I. I would pray constantly that things would work out when my ex left. God provided so much for me and my sons, for you and your sons and everybody because He knows the desires of our hearts.
Things out of left field. Things you never dreamed or thought of. I look back and I just stunned. And He is still doing it even today, this afternoon!
As "College" stated earlier, going to a community college for a couple of years can be an extremely wise choice with many benefits. Years ago, my DD was accepted to the universities she chose, but at that time she wasn't sure what career path she wanted to follow. She was concerned about us spending a lot of money when she felt so unsettled, so she chose to attend a local community college. It was the best decision for her.
The benefits are great:
* Students can get all the core type classes out of the way for a fraction of the cost of a 4-year university.
* Many community colleges have special partnerships with excellent public and private universities to allow for the transfer of all credits.
* Community colleges now have tons of extracurricular activities, including clubs and interscholastic athletics (including scholarships).
* You don't get buried under a mountain of debt. (Or at least the debt is smaller.)
* After you transfer, your diploma is from the 4-year school.
There are a few drawbacks, of course - the major one being that it delays the time when the student can go away to school and live on his or her own.
Attending a community college is really something to consider seriously, especially for people who have major financial constraints.
Is anyone really surprised that Beth Carson was shut-out of the book tour with Kate Gosselin? This story goes right along with the "mine, all mine" we heard when the Gosselins bought the large home w/acreage. Selfish to the core that one. Kate attempted to out show the Carsons, but there is one thing they have that she will never have and that is "class." Just cannot fake it or buy it. Hope Beth received all the money she deserved from writing the book. What a horrible experience it must have been for her. Moving on was the only thing she could do. Kate doesn't change for anyone. We have all seen that. User to the core.
I just read that October Gonzalez and Nicolle Wallace have been chosen to be the new hosts on The View. Two seats were available, and Kate didn't get either one. Of course, nobody will be surprised in the least--except Kate. I hope the kids are with Jon when she gets the news. I bet I can predict the sheeple reaction to this! They'll say that hiring Kate would take the focus and attention off of Whoopi and Rosie.
She must be so relieved that those hordes of paps that she hated so much are a thing of the past.
heh, heh.
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Oh yes. She's probably breathing much easier now that nobody recognizes her. She doesn't realize if they do they don't give a rat's ass about her anymore.
She's not fooling anyone. Her narcissistic ego is getting pretty banged up lately. She's going to have to do something really outlandish if this keeps up.
You have to wonder exactly how diabolical this really was. Did Kate kick Beth out after she realized the book would take off? Or did she intend to cut her off from the beginning by luring her in with promises of a book tour if she would just write it. Then once it was written she back peddles. Makes you wonder. Both are awful in their own way.
I was looking at the cover of MB (I never bought the book), and I think the way they got around this was that it's "Jon and Kate Gosselin And Beth Carson." It doesn't say "By Jon and Kate Gosselin, which would mean that the two of them (along with Beth) were the authors. This implies that this is the STORY of Jon and Kate Gosselin, not that they were the writers. Pretty darn sneaky. I'm surprised, though, that Beth didn't see that before it went to print and didn't put in some kind of objection. It's very misleading, and most likely should have been, "The Story of the Gosselins," BY Beth Carson (or something to that effect).
Just wondering, had the seventh baby lived, what she would have used to bill her family...
Millicent said...
Millicent, you are a great example of a piecing and a patching single mom. A lot of ladies on here are or were. I was and still am. I would pray constantly to God to provide for us and He came through every time we needed it. Money, medicine, food, clothes, a place to live, it didn't matter. So grateful to Him.
My son earned good grades and earned a full-ride scholarship to a D1 college in state only 65 miles away. He wanted to take the dual enrollment English 101 and 102 but it was 600 dollars. I couldn't pay that. But, He provided. I found out there was a fund set up to pay kids school fees to keep them from dropping out of high school. They paid these fees for him! The advisor doing his schedule at college said, well, lets get your English over with. He said, I have already taken 101 (A) 102 (B). She said, what? you what? hahaha
My middle ds made great grades and started playing football, 2 years of pee-wee, middle and high school. You have to start out young in the sport that you want to play to gain instruction on how to hit, block, sack and you gain experience.
All of my sons were athletes. You name it, they played it. Basketball, baseball, men's softball teams, soccer, football. My youngest son really wanted to play volleyball, but they only had it for girls. The HS should of had a boys volleyball team.
All of my sons got scholarships to Arts Camp for about 3 summers in a row. They got to go for 2 weeks ALL DAY. They loved it! Swimming, arts, crafts, gymnastics, all kinds of things. All I had to do was make them a sack lunch, towel, swim trunks, or whatever and TAKE, DROPOFF and PICKUP. The things they created there were awesome. My oldest wanted to take art lessons and I went and got a odd job and made the money and paid for them.
I will never forget a lady dressed to the nines, nautical blue jacket with full gold button showpieces, white skirt. An elitist. She was talking with the art teacher and I came in dressed in sweats, Tshirt and was stopping off to make a payment for the lessons. She looked down on me like I was nothing. The teacher said, oh, can I help you Ms. xxx, and I said, yes, I am here to make a payment for next weeks lessons. I think the lady was trying to run up a tab or I got the feeling she was bargaining for the lessons. I just smiled at her handing the teacher the money. That feeling was SO good, knowing that I worked for the money instead of grifting art lessons!
My brother begged our parents to play football and they refused to let him play. It would of benefitted him tremendously, like it did my sons. But they finally relented when he was in the 9th grade.
Worse thing they could of done. He had no experience. He got knocked so hard in the first game it knocked him out. He didn't play anymore. My dad told him, told ya' so! You wouldn't listen! I wish I would of told him, well, if you would of taken him to practice and let him start much younger, he would of had more experience, instead of you dating while married.
Sorry so long!
College said...
I think that is wonderful that your son took ASL and was able to use the foreign language credit! I have always wanted to sign.
It kinda spooks me how easily TFW lies to suit her agenda.
Like answering that tweet however long ago about Beth,
saying, yes, they're still friends, and how lots of things happen
that people don't know about. It was a bald-faced lie that
wasn't necessary. She could've just ignored the tweet.
But she felt safe that Beth wasn't going to contradict her
in public, so she provided an answer that'd make her look
good. Twitter continues to show her as the lying liar we've
always suspected she was.
PA Dutch Mom (91),
Makes sense--especially if people in that area were sick of her antics. But that is also true of the people in Berks County, who were taken for a ride when the tups were born. It must be terrible to know that you are are so disliked in your home area.
I looked at the house you mentioned, and wow! That is gorgeous! It's shocking to me to think of how much we paid for our house in the Washington/Baltimore area--and then see what we could buy for the same amount in PA. I grew up in Iowa, so I'm used to more space and less crowding. Around here, we're all right on top of each other. I appreciate all the cultural offerings--we can go to a museum, a world-class restaurant, to the ballet or Shakespearean theater--any time we like, but as I get older I really miss what I left behind. I really think we'll end up retiring in PA. And you have Roots Market up there! Bonus!
Martha said... 92
Just wondering, had the seventh baby lived, what she would have used to bill her family.
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Oh, Martha, that's easy: "The nine are MINE!" :)
And you have Roots Market up there! Bonus!
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LOL! I am there every Tuesday, even in the rain!
You're right -- you can get beautiful homes here, 3,500 square feet on two or more acres for around $350,000 to $400,000 or less. I'm shopping right now!
I do think that when Kate moved to Berks, she thought with that amount of land and privacy, she could stay hidden and wouldn't have to deal with the mediocres of the county. I'll never forget that scene, "Mine, all mine, as far as the eye can see." She had dollar signs in her eyes, and that look of greed was so...well, I couldn't believe the way she was bragging, and it wasn't even humble bragging. It was right in your face -- look at me, look at what *I* have. At that point, she knew that she had a bigger and nicer house than Beth did, and she didn't miss the chance to rub it in.
She bought the home in Wernersville, not in Wyomissing where they originally lived. I guess she thought that it didn't matter that people didn't like her. She was a star. She didn't need them and she wasn't elbow-to-elbow with anyone like she was in E-town. The heck with the little people, they are nothing but insects to be squashed.
Millecent, 74
DITTO!
Although I am so lucky to live in Canada where College tuition is 400 a year, we have all agreed ( grand-parents) to do what ever to keep her debt free until after graduation
As I believe, the new slavery is financial
So we will do what we can...I feel so bad for you guys with tuitions up beyond the stratosphere.
we may pay the 3rd hight taxes on everything in the world, but there are benefits
franky
IF a child of yours goes to college and has student loans and has some in her name and the parents have co-signed a couple of them, PLEASE buy a term life insurance policy for your son/daughter in their name to pay off what you have co-signed and for any children left behind!
There have been several stories recently on the news that their children in college have died and their student loans in their name are forgiven but not the co-signing parents.
One set of parents owed 100K and now it has doubled because of interest and penalties. They are taking care of their 3 grandchildren. A fund me account was set up by friends to help them out.
LaLaLandNoMore....86
I agree Beth showed her class by staying silent all these years. While I am pleased she decided to set the record straight, I feel her only misstep was using the word "cut", in that she would have been "cut out" of the pre-agreed-upon profits from the book she wrote unless she fought Kate for it.
Perhaps I am old fashioned, but I wish she had said they had a agreement regarding compensation and that Kate dishonoured that
verbal (or written) contract. Where's my "cut" seems a tad crass for someone as refined as Beth.
College...
My dd was just accepted to the college of her choice, she chose languages.
One of the extra requirements was proof of extra-curricullars...she is a beown belt, named her school and sensai
surprise, surprise, SURPRISE!!!!
she was the only one of her many friends accepted...go figure
Now she is almost lost, since she will be going there alone , I told her all the etra curriculars count,
franky
Yes, when you were born and raised here, you seldom move away!
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I remember reading once, about five years ago, that statistically Pennsylvania had the least number of people who moved away. In other words if you were born in PA you had the lowest chance of all 50 states of moving to another state at some point. Wow.
Forgot to mention in my COLLEGE post above.
DD grew up in one neighbourhood Ù( I may be a single mother, but I am ablr to be stable)
and I insisted on extra-curriculars...atheltics, dance, Karate...etc
she was the only one of her friends who stuck to it...now the rewards..have been after her to learn the universal languge..sign! think I will sign us up for a course
franky
may sound like bragging, and kinda am, just so proud!!
so shoot me
about dd , college and karate, forgot to mention not only did I make sure she name her belt, dojo ,and sensei ( she said it didn't matter, I insisted)..but also gave he them her Japan Dojo Federation number
she stopped karate a few years ago, but is going to pick it up again, but that number took her 8 years at 4 hours a week to earn, and winning got her mentions overseas at the major house
franky
You have to wonder exactly how diabolical this really was. Did Kate kick Beth out after she realized the book would take off? Or did she intend to cut her off from the beginning by luring her in with promises of a book tour if she would just write it. Then once it was written she back peddles. Makes you wonder. Both are awful in their own way.
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I'm going with (a). Beth doing all the writing, but sharing 50/50 in the credits and proceeds, would make sense if K got the benefit of the publicity from the book (i.e., the book helped promote the show and her other ventures). It was a win/win for both Beth and K. But the show and K's "career" took off between the time they made the agreement and started work on the book and the time it came out, so K didn't really need it. I think K must have signed some sort of contract with Beth, or Beth would have been totally screwed, and K wouldn't have done that if it didn't seem like a good deal at the time.
K could have done what Milo suggested - hire a ghost writer for a fixed fee and taken all the credit (and proceeds). But then K would have had to front the fee, and would have taken all the risk.
I think K must have signed some sort of contract with Beth, or Beth would have been totally screwed, and K wouldn't have done that if it didn't seem like a good deal at the time.
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That's essentially what Beth said. She said her husband said no you need to be careful doing business with friends and make sure you have all this on the up and up.
I took that to mean they had this in writing. Then, Beth said she was able to enforce their agreement because of her husband's foresight.
In any case this was with a real book publisher. I'm sure they would insist on a real contract too just so THEY don't get wrapped up in any lawsuits either.
PA Dutch Mom said... 91
Off topic, but...I was checking out some properties in and around Lancaster with my SIL, who is contemplating moving.
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The house you gave the listing for is really gorgeous, but it seems to be just a far from the kids school as where she is now. Wasn't the question, why didn't she move closer to the school? My thoughts are price, property size, zoning, and luck (what happened to be available when she was looking).
Over And Out said... 90
It's very misleading, and most likely should have been, "The Story of the Gosselins," BY Beth Carson (or something to that effect).
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Or maybe 'as told to'.
Beth didn't want to raise too much of a stink because, as she said, she was thinking of the kids first. Unlike Kate. I believe her.
I'd like to hear Jon's take on this.
Math Girl said... 108
The house you gave the listing for is really gorgeous, but it seems to be just a far from the kids school as where she is now. Wasn't the question, why didn't she move closer to the school?
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Do you think she was thinking that far ahead? Or she was thinking about their school at all? I don't. I think she was thinking about Kate.
The house is a perfect layout to distance herself from her kids. The sextuplets are upstairs and the twins are in another part of the house in another bedroom upstairs. Kate's bedroom is on the main floor. She said she needed a bigger house to spread them out so she could have some space away from them and that house fits the bill.
I don't know how the hell she'd hear them if they called out to her during the night, unless she has some kind of monitor or intercom installed. Perfect, right?
And on the off-chance she was thinking of schools, she scored there too. Their school is apparently quite a distance from their home. That gives her more ME time. It's an ideal setup.
Apparently God (aka TLC) was still listening when she called that order in - on her eleventy-billionth pink iphone.
Sorry I don't read here and reply as often as I would like.
In response to #1 on this page, yes I do think Steve is a gigolo. They use semantics or sleight of hand to not think about it. TLC paid Prudential whatever; Kate didn't pay Steve. He would of course still be here without the money but he needs to earn a living. You know how people lie to themselves.
But I do believe that he has been paid for years to be the man in her life. Think of this. She drives everyone away, even her closest family. She has no one else left in her life from that long ago. Why? Because they are a couple. A sick icky couple but still a couple. He is cheating; she is the other woman. Since she has no morals this doesn't bother her. His morals appear marginal as well. He is being paid to be her partner.
I think that Jon had his reasons to suspect they were having an affair. Kate chose Steve over Jon.
My niece is entering college in a few weeks. She had good grades and good extracurriculars. When I was that age, she would have been accepted almost anywhere. What is one of the main differences between now and then? Population. I was part of the baby bust. Population of children went down and down until it reached bottom with the kids 2 years younger than me. There are so many kids now applying for every spot. Looking at the statistics for her favorite school, the number of applications increased a lot from last year to this year. That increase even made the news. They have to have so much more to stand out in the crowd.
If community college is right for you, it can be a good choice. But even some of those programs are filling up and you can end up on a waiting list for the classes you need.
The house you gave the listing for is really gorgeous, but it seems to be just a far from the kids school as where she is now. Wasn't the question, why didn't she move closer to the school? My thoughts are price, property size, zoning, and luck (what happened to be available when she was looking).
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Yes, it is just as far to school. I looking for comps to see what is available at the same price that Kate paid for hers...to see if she overpaid for her house. That house appears to be much nicer than hers...more warm and friendly, and the pool and cabana are wonderful.
There are some really nice pieces of property listed right now that are close to the school, but they don't have as much acreage that Kate's current house sits on, and I think that's very important to her.
I just saw this story about a family of 14 that has been living in an RV for 2 years! Only one of them has bailed (the oldest daughter, who has gone back to Colorado, maybe to go to college) in that time.
http://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/family-of-14-lives-an-rv-life-1.1952177
You can google them to see other stories about them or read their blogs, but many of the stories are from when they were just starting out. The one above is current.
Eat your heart out, K.
My niece is entering college in a few weeks. She had good grades and good extracurriculars. When I was that age, she would have been accepted almost anywhere. What is one of the main differences between now and then? Population. I was part of the baby bust. Population of children went down and down until it reached bottom with the kids 2 years younger than me. There are so many kids now applying for every spot. Looking at the statistics for her favorite school, the number of applications increased a lot from last year to this year. That increase even made the news. They have to have so much more to stand out in the crowd.
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It's just incredible to witness how much has changed in such a small time frame. One of the kids I nannied for is a gifted sportsman. His sport, he's been playing it since he was three. At 10 years old the speed he was clocking as that of a prodigy. He destroyed me when I played with him. I thought, well that kid is division 1 all the way, headed to the major leagues. That's what his parents expected too, which is why they've forked over hundreds of thousands of dollars on equipment and a full home set up of the sport at the house, private lessons, public lessons, camps, club teams, school teams, three transfers to various school chasing the best coaches. Out of state tournaments even over holidays. This was his life and he was, I thought at the time, lucky his parents could fund it. He never was lazy with it or expected to get by on his name or his money. He worked his butt off.
And now here we are time to enter college and where is he? DIVISION TWO!
Yes he got a scholarship, which is LUCKY for division 2 since many kids don't in division 2, but I don't think it's a full scholarship, and it's division 2. He's crushed, can't believe it. He simply could not get interest from division 1 schools. And there are a lot of division 1! No takers. And his grades are great, 3.5, so it's not that. His behavior is somewhat to be desired at times, but not enough to sabotage a scholarship.
If he had shown up with these skills in 1998, division 1 would be a shoe in. Perhaps even an offer from the professional league and skip college.
It's unfortunately, not 1998 anymore. There are a hundred other kids just like him. And the TINIEST little leg up they have, like no black marks on their record, make them sail beyond him and leave him in the dust.
It's tragic in a way. All that time, money and energy. I worry he's going to be depressed at that no name school in no name nowhere.
To your point Jeanne as I was entering law school a million kids wanted to go to law school. I was not nervous until I started hearing the numbers then I thought well gee am I even going to get IN??
It was a time when the job market was poor so everyone in America was saying to their kids well you always said you wanted to go to law school why don't you go? Kids LISTENED and went. The application process was insane. I remember one of the letters saying they had 20,000 applicants for 250 spots or something. I was qualified for every school I applied to but certainly didn't make the cut at all of them. I had to apply to more schools than I wanted to just to be safe.
It's on a downward trend again so it ebb and flows but if you catch certain areas at the "wrong" time and everyone wants in too, your only hope is that your parents did what they could to make sure that your childhood has prepared you for it and giving you that slight edge. iPads and choring ain't gonna cut it.
All this talk on property in the Lancaster area is exciting but stressing me out! After 3 years in England we have started the visa process so that my English hubby and 6 month old (American/British citizen) can move back. I want to move somewhere within the Lancaster area. Love Manheim, Mount Joy, Etown and everywhere in between! Just so stressed with the thought of moving across the ocean and starting over, but I know I'm making the best decision for us long term.
Beth didn't want to raise too much of a stink because, as she said, she was thinking of the kids first. Unlike Kate. I believe her.
I'd like to hear Jon's take on this.
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I'd like to hear Jon apologize to Beth for being complicit in Kate's scheme to erase any trace of Beth from the book.
Jon was weak to not stand up to Kate and say, "no, it's indecent to cheat a good friend out of the money she earned and the credit she's due".
Very weak.
Jon was caught up too.
I don't know how the hell she'd hear them if they called out to her during the night, unless she has some kind of monitor or intercom installed. Perfect, right?
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Right.
I remember being appalled that I never saw any evidence of any child monitoring system when the kids were babies.
No monitor in the bedroom, kids in the basement with door closed all the time.
WTF??
With all of her money, Kate should install an intercom and CCTV.
I think that Jon had his reasons to suspect they were having an affair. Kate chose Steve over Jon.
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She sure did, and Steve seemed more than happy to infuse himself into the Gosselin family.
Jon was really weak back then. I would have had a man-to-man talk with Steve and told him to stay the hell away from my family, or I'd seriously hurt him.
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 · Aug 7
Doing division flash cards. When Hannah saw 144 div by 12=__, she reacted w a scream! 'Huge numbers!' #GuessWeBetterWorkHarder #SchoolPrep
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First of all, stop with the screaming- it's out of control at 10 years old.
Next, don't advertise that your child can't do simple math.
And "we" better work harder? By "we", I assume she means the tutors, sitters and twins.
getofftwitter said... 47
Jeanne: Kate does not like to break up a set/6 pk/team. Kate treats the twin and the tups as sets, not individuals...
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Wild guess - the family tree has been replaced by a Venn diagram?
I'd like to hear Jon apologize to Beth for being complicit in Kate's scheme to erase any trace of Beth from the book.
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I hope he does it in private not publicly so the sheep won't talk about him.
Plus he should stay quite so the media can stay on Kate and not turn their focus on him if he starts talking.
Just read this comment on the Radar article, from someone who
assures us she's not trying to defend TFW: "The ghost writer, regardless of how close they are to the subject, is of absolutely
zero interest to the public and NEVER goes on a book tour."
Here's where you're wrong, Person Who's Not Trying To Defend TFW.
Beth Carson absolutely WOULD be of interest to the public, because
she was on the show! Many times! Episodes were filmed in her
house. The kids did a photo shoot on her lawn. She traveled with
the family. She was the BFF to your beloved TFW. And in TFW's own words, she was like a second mother to those children. Would she be the main draw at the book signings? Of course not. But to say people had "zero interest" in her is incorrect. Same with Aunt Jodi. Fans enjoyed watching the kids interact on camera with
another female figure who seemed more relaxed and fun-loving
than their mother. And my theory is that the fans' interest in both
of these women was a huge part of the reason they were kicked
to the curb.
That one Radar comment really exposes the fan mentality. There is
no gray area with them. It's only black or white.
The girls shriek and scream because they imitate their mother who is over-dramatic. They also imitate her odd phrasing.
I doubt Kate spends any time overseeing schoolwork. Probably that's a chore for Mady or Cara. Notice in her tweet she left out "I" was helping Hannah. This is how she lies.
As far as Stevie goes, I haven't a clue what he sees in her other than money and sex, yet they seem to enjoy each other 's company. Maybe they are soul mates, LOL, but I feel bad that Steve has humiliated his family publicly. At this point, Kate's image is shot to hell anyway so they might as well stop with the denials. Gina is aware but some wives just refuse to divorce and put up with a husband cheating. I don't want to see Steve and Kate officially together because Kate wins again.
Actually a "ghost writer" doesn't go on tour. Ghost writer's names do nt appear. Beth was not a ghost writer. She was a co-author.
1) The agreement between K and Beth was that they would BOTH go on the media tour (whether or not Beth was a ghost writer).
2) Beth was NOT a ghost writer.
3) You can tell they were BOTH inexperienced, thus no 'as told to', or other standard format.
FlimsyFlamsy said... 124
Just read this comment on the Radar article, from someone who
assures us she's not trying to defend TFW: "The ghost writer, regardless of how close they are to the subject, is of absolutely
zero interest to the public and NEVER goes on a book tour."
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God, they're so stupid.
Beth was the writer, not the ghost writer. It's mind boggling how the sheep are spinning this.
Kate tried to break her contract with Beth. Her actions were deplorable. It takes a really, really nasty person to take, take, take, take and then kick the person who was so incredibly generous with her time, MONEY and home.
The sheep should go back and look at the episodes that show how generous Bob and Beth were. Kate wrote extensively in her journal about how incredible those two were to her and Jon.
Bob and Beth would have given them anything they needed, and I'm damn glad Bob had the presence of mind to make things legal from the get go.
I went and looked at the interviews J+K did for MB, and they both took full credit for writing the book.
Jon didn't do shit! He took care of the kids, great, but he didn't contribute squat to that book.
Shame on both of them.
Flimsy 124...that comment on ROL is the exact argument that Milo has been spouting about ghost writers. Makes you wonder if she scouts the internet to stick up for the "love" of her life.
With all of her money, Kate should install an intercom and CCTV.
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CCTV would just serve to remind her that she has more kids than she ever wanted to parent in earnest, three of them icky boys. Besides, I'm thinking soon they'll all have i-phones and they'll communicate in that house mostly using those. Just like Mady did when she texted Kate her breakfast order and remarked how bad it was that they text each other in the house all the time.
Steve should have looked up the definition of ghost writer before he told TFW that Beth was just a ghost writer, their justification to cheat Beth out of her contracted share of the proceeds.
It also made it easier for a tour for deux. Having Beth along would have surely put a crimp in the romantic candle lit dinners for two, at high end restaurants, and adjoining rooms (uh huh) in first class hotels.
Jeanne at #112:
Regarding increasing college applications:
Amy2 had an accurate explanation about today's college application process and WHO is applying. Between the time I went to college and my kids did, the application process went global. No longer are kids vying for spots just with their American peers.
Someone mentioned going to a local community college, but that depends on your child's long-term collegiate plans. The university my kids attend, certain majors within the university take such a small amount of transfer students it's almost impossible to get in.
Incoming high school freshman need to decide what type of college they'd like to attend after graduating, check the high school degree plans required by each university and plan accordingly. If these kids wait until their senior year to start the college application process, they waited too late. By that time lots of doors are already slammed shut.
Another thought on increased college applications: When I went to school, there was no FAFSA. Most college kids received some sort of financial aid.
(and for the G kids, since their parents are divorced, they can report ONE parent's income on their FAFSA). In their case, if Kate decides not to give them one cent of HER (ahem!) money, they can most likely receive LOTS of financial aid (when the 6 apply, the twins will still be in college, so having 8 in college with Jon's modest income will guarantee them LOTS of aid!). Being minorities WILL help them financially.
If Kate is the parent claiming all the kids on her tax return: if Kate does not provide over 50% of their expenses, she can no longer claim them as dependents. The kids will file their own tax returns due to being 'independent'. Parents no longer report their kid's 1098T (tuition statement) on their tax return--that changed a few years ago--now the college kiddo reports that on theirs.
there's lots of loopholes concerning divorced parents. But Kate can skirt by refusing to pay. And yep, those kids will have most of their college expenses paid for by grants, scholarships and loans. (If she is a trustee on the kid's college fund trust, she can absolve that, change the terms, etc on her own whim).
If Jon is correct in saying HE set up a college fund for them, then that will be used in the financial aid process, but whatever is in that account must be divided 8 ways).
jcb
is of absolutely
zero interest to the public and NEVER goes on a book tour."
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It doesn't matter what the common practice is or what you want to call Beth's role. The point is she was promised, it was agreed, she would go on tour. Then Kate backed out of her promise and agreement.
That's the bottom line no matter which way you spin it. A deal is a deal, that is the bottom line you dumb sheep.
Harrisburg Native, congrats on coming back to the states soon!
So...if it took them a year and a half to write the book, and K/Beth were holed up in hotels on the weekends, and K had volunteers in during the week to watch the kids....um...again....just exactly when did K watch the kids?
I think that Blind Gossip item might have been our TFW. Bolding is mine.
– This top celebrity makes a big deal out of talking about motherhood and how much time she spends being a good mom. She would lead you to believe that she dotes on her children and takes an active role in thier lives. Not so. When the kid/s were little, she only changed about one out of every hundred diapers. The kid/s are being raised by a small army of nannies. Our star has limited contact with them except during photo opportunities....
It also made it easier for a tour for deux. Having Beth along would have surely put a crimp in the romantic candle lit dinners for two, at high end restaurants, and adjoining rooms (uh huh) in first class hotels.
August 9, 2014 at 7:27 AM
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Bingo- Beth would have been a third wheel.
You know how Kate loved her "me and Steve" time, complete with hearts on the calendar and lots of restaurant choices.
Everyone don't forget our summer viewing party Sunday when AMC will begin to show their weekly mini marathon of Breaking Bad with extra behind the scenes footage. I don't think AMC breaks things up by time zones so for me it starts at about 2 p.m. PST. and goes until 9 I think. I won't be home but I'll try to catch up later in the day. We will be serving deep fried oreos on the porch.
TLC stinks said... 125
The girls shriek and scream because they imitate their mother who is over-dramatic. They also imitate her odd phrasing.
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And some also mimic her (TFW's) physical interactions (slaps, etc...) we saw her do to Jon. And the berating and aggressiveness. Their mimicking apparently goes unchecked by TFW, as she sees nothing wrong with it. The difference in how she treats the boys vs. girls is despicable. Can you imagine if one of the boys pushed Hannah like she pushed Collin in the special. TFW would have blown a gasket.
This is not going to end well for the boys, IMO.
I can't remember who posted this fable once years ago about Kate but I stumbled across it cleaning out my inbox (finally almost done with that project!!) and I can't believe how applicable it is to the situation with Beth. She cuts off her nose to spite her face. Beth could have helped her for years to come. Beth could have been that trusted advisor who actually made her twitter, web site and other endeavors not so darn embarrassing looking. Among many other things. But one slip up and Beth is done:
A scorpion asks a frog to carry him across a river. The frog says but you'll sting me! The scorpion asks why would I do that? It would doom us both! So the frog agrees, and halfway across, the scorpion does indeed sting the frog. The frog's last words are spent asking the scorpion why. He says I am a scorpion.
Kate is the scorpion. Her nature is irrepressible, no matter the consequences. The scorpion's final words in the fable are, "it is better we should both perish than that my enemy should live."
I think Jon does a lot of apologizing to former contacts behind the scenes. Em Tanner for one example.
To weigh in on college admissions and financing. Don't forget to look into scholarship help. There are tons of scholarships available for kids that don't depend upon academic achievement or talent (music, athletics, etc.). Most of them are small, but qualify for enough of them and it adds up. My Goddaughter received a $200 scholarship for being left-handed. There are websites that list these off-beat scholarships. Google them. You may be pleasantly surprised.
It was greed and Beth as a third wheel on those book tours that motivated Kate, that's for sure. ITA. I cannot imagine a grown woman drawing hearts on a calendar on those tour dates with Steve.
That's the bottom line no matter which way you spin it. A deal is a deal, that is the bottom line you dumb sheep.
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It;s a shame how blind they're.
I'm sure none of them would work for free and they would be upset if their friend tried to gypped them out of money they worked for.
Mel- that blind gossip sounds like it's Kate, but everyone knows she just plays a "mom" on tv.
Admin- Kate is the proverbial scorpion, no doubt. Her nature is very dark- most people couldn't live with themselves if they hurt everyone around them.
Jeanne: Kate does not like to break up a set/6 pk/team. Kate treats the twin and the tups as sets, not individuals...
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The" tups" contain a subset of 3 boys. The amount of speaking the boys were allowed to do (other than when interviewed directly) and how the girls pushed, hit, and shoved them (without a single word out of Kate) spoke volumes. Yet Collin said Leah had ugly hair, and was berated on, and on and on.... So sad. His defeated face said everything.
TLC stinks said... 125
The girls shriek and scream because they imitate their mother who is over-dramatic. They also imitate her odd phrasing.
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Yes, I noticed the odd phrases, especially from Mady, on the update special.Once about her alarm clock and once at the fishbowl game.And the couch interviews.
And Kate has always been one to report shrieks etc at the slightest thing- she does this herself plus makes weird faces, too..I think she believes it's funny.
I recall TFW said all the kids just LOVE to play school on their school vacation, with M and C as the teachers.Sure. Everyday.
Kate is the scorpion. Her nature is irrepressible
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No no no administrator.
I'm a scorpio and us scorpio's stick up for ourselves but we're very strong willed loyal.Loving and hard-working people.
Kate is a snake she's turn on you poison you while sinking her fangs into you when you least expected it.
Heck she'll squeeze the life and happiness out of you looke what she did to Jon.
Not so. When the kid/s were little, she only changed about one out of every hundred diapers. The kid/s are being raised by a small army of nannies. Our star has limited contact with them except during photo opportunities....
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This could be a lot of celebs. My theory on this is that most people agree a lot of narcissists gravitate toward Hollywood in the first place. Many of those narcissists don't REALLY have an interest in children, except maybe babies. But since children are expected and give you good publicity, you have them.
My narcissist did not understand or relate to children or seem to enjoy them UNLESS she could get them to enjoy something she enjoyed, like say going to a great concert. The nanny bought her children's own clothes, arranged their schedules, made sure they were fed and happy. After a long weekend if they were out of town without me, I would find their nails too long and very dirty. Their ears needed cleaning. They needed haircuts. They hadn't brushed their teeth the whole trip. It was possible they had worn the same tshirt the whole time. One time I watched narcissist unpack their bags and it was fascinating. She laid everything out on the guest room bed and one at a time, slowly, meticulously, held things up to look at them for a long moment then eventually put things away. Like it was the first time a bag had ever been unpacked by someone other than a staff.
They were rich as all get out but completely neglected by their parents. It was like they had no idea how to "look after" a little one when it came to all the little things that most mothers have instincts about, including how to quickly unpack a bag. I KNOW the kids knew it, too. They were smart and it affected them.
Washington state has a high school program which is called "Running Start". For the last 2 years in high school, two of my kids attended community college, and earned dual credit, that was 100% transferable to any state school in Washington, and most state schools in the US. They both had ADD, and they both did much better in college, because of the reduced number of classes they had to balance. They had an opportunity to take elective classes, and experience an independence that they wouldn't have had. My daughter graduated college in 3 years, and spent her first year out of school in France, teaching English in high school and middle school. For her second year in France, she taught English at the University of Bordeaux, and then returned home and got a teaching certificate. I'm not sure that she would have followed that path had she done 4 years in high school, because she really struggled with balancing so many academic classes. The state paid all of the tuition, the parents had to pay for the books. It was a great deal, and one that it not widely known.
If they had opted to go to a private school, the only college credits that would have transferred would have been electives that did not receive high school credit. However, they would still have been placed in higher classes, because they had completed all of their general education prerequisites.
So, we saved several years of tuition, which made college much more affordable.
After a long weekend if they were out of town without me, I would find their nails too long and very dirty. Their ears needed cleaning. They needed haircuts. They hadn't brushed their teeth the whole trip. It was possible they had worn the same tshirt the whole time
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Wow, that's horrendous. It must be really hard for nannies to leave sometimes, especially when parents are so self-absorbed and neglectful.
OT- I watched the last season of The Killing, which was great.
DH and I watched Tim's Vermeer, which was fascinating. Who thinks of this stuff!? I appreciate Tim's inquisitive nature (and LARGE bags of money), but I think he's drive me crazy.
"Kate is the scorpion..............." And that is the crux of the entire story.
Nothing will change when it comes to Kate. Hence the dead eyes and the lies. Friendship with a scorpion or a snake is always the same. Many times it's an "innocent" who comes along befriending the Kate's of the world and they are always but always going to end up devastated. Beth as the example.
Steve will, too. He'll be on the receiving end of despair. No one escapes really around such as TFW. As for the children, either they will learn, once as young adults, to make needed personality changes or they won't. It's not easy to do that, but it is a "what it takes to survive" effort. An overhaul. Literally.
When Jon wanted Kate to go for marriage counseling she was adamant that she didn't want to. The last thing she would have wanted was to save the marriage because she was already in love with another man.
MabelD said... 141
When Jon wanted Kate to go for marriage counseling she was adamant that she didn't want to. The last thing she would have wanted was to save the marriage because she was already in love with another man.
August 9, 2014 at 8:28 AM
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Getting out of that marriage allowed Kate to make a unilateral decision to keep filming.
And Kate has always been one to report shrieks etc at the slightest thing- she does this herself plus makes weird faces, too..I think she believes it's funny.
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She's such a bad actress. The weird faces, the darting eyes, the wide eyes, the grimaces were just so embarrassing. She knows she's lying out her bleached asshole, so she's got to "sell" it.
I wouldn't say Kate was "in love." It's neither the profile of a sociopath or a narcissist to feel love. They see others as either for them or against them, not as separate individuals with needs like they have. They're vehicles to get them what they want or roadblocks that need to be avoided.
Wow, that's horrendous. It must be really hard for nannies to leave sometimes, especially when parents are so self-absorbed and neglectful.
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To this day it hurts to think about and I know other nannies must experience the same. You really have to pull a Beth in that situation and put yourself first and much as you care for the kids and realize this is not your cross to bear. It not easy and I do strongly relate to the discarded Gosselin friends and family. My situation is good, I GUESS, since I keep in touch and know all their struggles as they've become adults. I think I would rather know what is going on than be cut off. You think never cutting your kids nails is just a little thing but I think all those little things have added up for these poor kids such that they feel like more of a nuisance than children who were loved and wanted. They then play that out in destructive behaviors. One of them had to go to one of those teen boot camps for an entire year, it's been hard to watch especially since I KNOW that is a darn good kid under there who is simply working through a lot of feelings from childhood.
If there's one lesson I took away from it is that kids KNOW when you don't give a rat's ass about them. They aren't stupid.
Anyone seen the Staples' Back-to-School commercials that feature the "Shopping Cart" dance? They hosted a dance contest...too bad Kart didn't enter!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGZT6MouJfA
Ex Nurse said... 149
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Ah, teaching in France, how amazing!
The parents here are so on the ball- really doing everything to help their kids succeed.
Kate's doing nothing, really.
She just tries to sell that her kids are sooooooooo smart and head of their class, but clearly, they are behind, even though they're older than their classmates.
The couch interviews showed them to not be able to sit still and their speaking and vocabulary is not what it should be.
The only kid getting special attention is Cara, with a sport.
Long ago, I felt Kate threw in the towel when it came to the tups. She once said she knows there's just not enough of her to go around, and I think while it's very hard with so many, she just doesn't even try.
The six pack are left to amuse themselves, and have nothing outside of school and the compound, and no, playing sports in school doesn't really count for much.
TLC stinks said... 142
It was greed and Beth as a third wheel on those book tours that motivated Kate, that's for sure. ITA. I cannot imagine a grown woman drawing hearts on a calendar on those tour dates with Steve.
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What? Kate did that. I never heard that before.
I cannot imagine a grown woman drawing hearts on a calendar on those tour dates with Steve.
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What? Kate did that. I never heard that before.
August 9, 2014 at 8:46 AM
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Yes. Kate would mark her calendar (the KATE calendar) with things like hearts and where she'd be traveling with Steve.
Can you imagine drawing hearts that mark that you are leaving your husband and kids to travel with a married man?
Kate was always very excited to travel and plan extensively for extra-curricular activities with Steve.
10 restaurants choices were given to Steve- all details about the cuisine etc.
Getting out of that marriage allowed Kate to make a unilateral decision to keep filming.
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That's the bottom line I just wish she'd be honest about it.
The divorce was because they had a massive disagreement about filming. Jon was getting tired of doing it to his kids and wanted to cut it down or completely, it was to commercialized was I think his word. Kate couldn't have that because that meant less money. She files for divorce and seeks full custody so she can call the shots. Nothing more, nothing less.That's how it works with Kate. She loves you, you just love her family, until you disagree with her. Then you're cut off.
Here's a project Kate should have thought of for herself.
Kim Kardashian is coming out with a book of "selfies" called Selfish. Very appropriate title.
http://www.rizzoliusa.com/book.php?isbn=9780789329202
Another missed opportunity for Kate. Just think--she could have taken limitless selfies of herself and Zorro!
She could have named it "Kate Gosselin Flips Everyone the Bird!!"
Mel said... 135
So...if it took them a year and a half to write the book, and K/Beth were holed up in hotels on the weekends, and K had volunteers in during the week to watch the kids....um...again....just exactly when did K watch the kids?
I think that Blind Gossip item might have been our TFW. Bolding is mine.
– This top celebrity makes a big deal out of talking about motherhood and how much time she spends being a good mom. She would lead you to believe that she dotes on her children and takes an active role in thier lives. Not so. When the kid/s were little, she only changed about one out of every hundred diapers. The kid/s are being raised by a small army of nannies. Our star has limited contact with them except during photo opportunities....
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The site "Blind Gossip" would never in a million years refer to Kate Gosselin (patooey) as a "Top Celebrity". Never. They would refer to Kart as a DLister wanna be or other similar language. They are usually very clear in their descriptions.
Tucker's Mom said... 161
Yes. Kate would mark her calendar (the KATE calendar) with things like hearts and where she'd be traveling with Steve.
Can you imagine drawing hearts that mark that you are leaving your husband and kids to travel with a married man?
Kate was always very excited to travel and plan extensively for extra-curricular activities with Steve.
10 restaurants choices were given to Steve- all details about the cuisine etc.
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Is this in Robert's book? I haven't gotten that far. How totally disgusting. Another example of how oblivious she is to others' feelings.
Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said... 160
TLC stinks said... 142
It was greed and Beth as a third wheel on those book tours that motivated Kate, that's for sure. ITA. I cannot imagine a grown woman drawing hearts on a calendar on those tour dates with Steve.
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What? Kate did that. I never heard that before.
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I also remember the hearts on the calendar and wondering if she drew them because she was happy at going on yet another trip, or if it was because she'd be with Steve, or both. Not that it matters, of course. I think this reference was in Robert's book but I could be mistaken about that.
She files for divorce and seeks full custody so she can call the shots
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Yup. Kate knew Jon was done with filming and wanted to move on, but Kate's mantra was "the show is our life..." which is really sick when you think about it.
The show will not be there forever, and tv and movie prospects aren't going to be beating down your door.
It would have been so much better to go out on top- to be remembered fondly. Instead, Kate made The War of the Roses look like a picnic.
The shame and embarrassment she's brought upon her family is tragic.
Robert has really caused a ground swell with his book. It won't be selling up there with Stephen King, but it's impact has had an amazing ripple effect.
People are actually seeing Kate for who she really is, thanks to people like Beth. I have a feeling that others will speak out about what the grind of churning out reality shows is really like for children.
The conversation is getting real, finally.
We've moved past "a purse full of bills' and "is Kate wearing her wedding ring?" and "who's Jon dating now".
No more smoke and mirrors created to misdirect the public about what those kids' lives were/are really like.
I hope that Beth continues to speak out about what she saw, and I also hope Ashley speaks too.
I just don't know how Kate can threaten to (successfully) punish them legally if they are coming out to give testimony about signing up very young children to demanding contracts that compel their participation.
I refuse to let Kate share my birth/zodiac sign lol she's no scorpio she a freaking snake.
Jane said... 166
Well, Jane, whether it was hearts or flowers or smiley faces, it was a slap in the face to Jon, and the kids as well, showing how super excited, slap-fuc*in' happy she was about getting away from the family. Speaki8ng of slap..... ;)
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 162
She would also be free to travel the world with Steve.
She could have named it "Kate Gosselin Flips Everyone the Bird!!"
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Kate's been giving everyone the middle finger for a long, long time.
Don't think I should be galavanting with a married man?
Fuck you!
Don't believe I didn't get a boob job?
Fuck you!
Don't think I should be filming the crap out of my kids?
Fuck you!
Don't think I should be having my twins do my bidding on live tv?
Fuck you!
When Kate wants your opinion, she'll give it to you.
If there's one lesson I took away from it is that kids KNOW when you don't give a rat's ass about them. They aren't stupid.
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My thing was the twin said the divorced didn't effect them it effected their mother and they we're taking care of mom I was like WTF..that not normal.
My mom left my abusive father when I was young they were separated for years befor divorced and. I saw their divorced coming & it needed to happen I was still effected by it,
That's the bottom line I just wish she'd be honest about it.
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But then she would be admitting SHE broke the marriage and not Jon and that won't ever happen.
I also remember the hearts on the calendar and wondering if she drew them because she was happy at going on yet another trip, or if it was because she'd be with Steve, or both. Not that it matters, of course. I think this reference was in Robert's book but I could be mistaken about that.
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Yes, there was a reference in Robert's book. Kate had made a notation on her calendar when she, Steve and Mady would be leaving for San Diego, and Robert said that it was circled with a big red heart.
It is in the chapter titled "In Steve We Trust", in the section "Notes and Observations".
Are the specials off Youtube? I was going to quickly check out Kate's weird faces and Mady's strange phrases and they seem just to have fragments,like one about the cake and 'no fun things'...??
Kim Kardashian is coming out with a book of "selfies" called Selfish. Very appropriate title.
http://www.rizzoliusa.com/book.php?isbn=9780789329202
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A sure sign of the Apocalypse...
Get your affairs in order, everyone! 168
While I think the entire kardashian clan is another waste is space (with the exception of Rob), I do note that Kim's book.isn't pictures of her daughter.
Actually a "ghost writer" doesn't go on tour. Ghost writer's names do nt appear. Beth was not a ghost writer. She was a co-author.
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But was Beth a co-author? If she wrote the entire book, then she was the author...as told to Beth Carson by Kate Gosselin.
I don't want to see Steve and Kate officially together because Kate wins again.
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But what has she really won? A little ratclaws person with small hands who carries purses, wears blue shirts, and won't eat pizza touched by human hands.
I think I'd rather be single.
Kendra is meeting with divorce attorneys. There you go, Kate. Hank will be available! What a catch!
If Steve was with them to provide his special 'protective services', then why weren't the twins sitting BETWEEN the 2 adults?
The Empress is a Clown said... 158
Anyone seen the Staples' Back-to-School commercials that feature the "Shopping Cart" dance? They hosted a dance contest...too bad Kart didn't enter!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGZT6MouJfA
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She couldn't enter. We all know how she feels about (gasp) markers!
I'm wondering when the media is going to pick up on the physical abuse of the kids & dogs instead of the "minor" issues in Robert's book.
They can't be worried about being sued can they, if it's already in the book?
One of the reasons I like this site is that manners reign and posters really are polite to one another and rarely use purple language. There was a site that used so many vulgar terms it became disgusting. Adult women really can find ways to express themselves other than like 6th grade boys do.
Love Manheim, Mount Joy, Etown and everywhere in between! Just so stressed with the thought of moving across the ocean and starting over, but I know I'm making the best decision for us long term.
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Let me know when you come on over! We'll have lunch and drink a few at Bube's in Mount Joy. I also know an awesome real estate agent!
chefsummer said... 173
If there's one lesson I took away from it is that kids KNOW when you don't give a rat's ass about them. They aren't stupid.
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My thing was the twin said the divorced didn't effect them it effected their mother and they we're taking care of mom I was like WTF..that not normal.
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Me too!
I wanted to pull my hair out when Mady and Cara said that on The View- and Kate sat there putting on her frowny 'poor me" face, nodding in agreement.
As a child, I can't imagine how sad and confused all those kids were, and frankly, Kate wasn't keeping up appearances for the sake of their kids if Mady can say it affected her mom more than her.
The kids should be the focus and not the ones 'bucking up" so that their flake of a mother doesn't lose her shit.
I thought Kate would say something like "I feel so bad that I handled it that way; I shouldn't have burdened my children", rather, she actually sat there feeling like she deserved the pity from her children and not the other way around.
Tucker's Mom said... 172
When Kate wants your opinion, she'll give it to you.
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Don't say things like that. I had just finished cleaning my keyboard!
All This Is That said... 180
Kendra is meeting with divorce attorneys. There you go, Kate. Hank will be available! What a catch!
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Yup, they can create their own new reality tv show, and relive the week that Kate left her kids with a porn star who teabags 80-year olds to live with a guy who likes dudes with boobs.
prairiemary said... 181
If Steve was with them to provide his special 'protective services', then why weren't the twins sitting BETWEEN the 2 adults?
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The girls know where Kate's priorities lie- just look at Mady getting excoriated for eating Stevie's pizza.
Yup, they can create their own new reality tv show, and relive the week that Kate left her kids with a porn star who teabags 80-year olds to live with a guy who likes dudes with boobs.
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Absolutely. The quintessential American family. All they need to do is to build the white picket fence!
Let me know when you come on over! We'll have lunch and drink a few at Bube's in Mount Joy. I also know an awesome real estate agent!
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Thanks PA Dutch Mom :) Can't wait for American food (and service) again. Though I'll really miss the pubs & fish n' chips here. Also will appreciate the "in" with a good realtor.
Bube's in Mount Joy
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Some may pack up and move to the area for this titillating sounding hotspot alone. (I just noticed the unintentional double entendre(s) as I reviewed the edit. Still clicking publish).
With all the discussions on colleges and education, perhaps some of you wouldn't mind sharing your thoughts on pre-school education :-)
My little girl will be starting preschool in the fall. I've been looking at Montessori schools. Do you have an opinion on that type of education? She is only two, but she is an only child without any family nearby. So we think she needs time to play and learn with others.
Any advice would be great!
(BTW....I tried the #1 resource, no not Google! I tweeted the SUPER MOM TFW! Sadly she ignored me. Hahahahahaha)
BTW....I tried the #1 resource, no not Google! I tweeted the SUPER MOM TFW! Sadly she ignored me. Hahahahahaha) 193
Consider yourself lucky!
Tucker's Mom said... 186
This just goes to show how self-centred their mother is plus their mother agreed that IT-(the div) affected her and her alone.
The more this book deal is discussed, the more disgusting it becomes. Most of us have had negative experiences with someone in out lifetime. Hurts for a while and the hurt would be even deeper as you watch the crumb of a person rise to the top in their pursuit of the limelight and you know the truth about that person. I am glad Beth finally talked, but most of us here suspected the truth before it was printed. I agree that Jon and Kate are both responsible for what happened to their association with the Carsons.
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prairiemary said... 181
If Steve was with them to provide his special 'protective services', then why weren't the twins sitting BETWEEN the 2 adults?
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The girls know where Kate's priorities lie- just look at Mady getting excoriated for eating Stevie's pizza.
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And how else will mom show off her hooker outfit and implants if she wasn't sitting next to rat claws.
Her had to protect the girls-(aka the implants)-right?
My little girl will be starting preschool in the fall. I've been looking at Montessori schools. Do you have an opinion on that type of education? She is only two, but she is an only child without any family nearby. So we think she needs time to play and learn with others.
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Montessori is super popular around here and I love the concept. Especially being an Italian American, I like that it's an Italian influenced way of education. Everyone I know with kids there is very happy!
I am glad Beth finally talked, but most of us here suspected the truth before it was printed. I agree that Jon and Kate are both responsible for what happened to their association with the Carsons.
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Robert was spot on with this one.
I love how Kate's been almost silent about this huge revelation (to most people).
There's just no defense for what she did to such good people.
Now, now, Tucker's Mom (#199), TFW loudly and clearly
responded to Beth's accusation, remember?
"no"
I believe her!
Seriously, who are these people??? I checked her profile to see if she was a teeny bopper, which she isn't and to see if maybe she lives in Australia and, I don't know---holds a lot of koala bears? But nope.
Trevor Casey @trevice8 1h
Kate Gosselin and I are so similar, we both cry when we hold koalas.
If Steve was with them to provide his special 'protective services', then why weren't the twins sitting BETWEEN the 2 adults?
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Kate would never sit next to the great unwashed, the general public, when she's got three others there to envelop her. Sacrificing the kids yet again.
Lots of fun discussion today! We are really on the beach vacation, hooray! Anyone in the OBX vicinity want to come have a rumspringa with me on the beach or in the hot tub?
I will definitely come over for FRIED OREOS Admin! See you tomorrow!
Re college and expenses, two nieces both went to community college for their nursing degrees, they are both successful RNs. We enrolled oldest child in Virginia 529 savings plan as son as it started, when we had paid that one off we started second one for younger child. Older child got academic scholarship that helped make cost of the expensive private college she loved same as a public college. Younger child is in a performing arts program that she had to audition for at same time she was applying to the university.
I love the Virginia 529 plan, we could DEDUCT OUR CONTRIBUTIONS FROM OUR STATE TAXES! It didn't make sense to NOT do it, but I had friends who never enrolled their kids.
both children had different experiences in elementary and high school to explore different interests and find some things they really loved.
Off to the beach to watch the sunset! Tomorrow is a super moon with the full moon!
JoyinVirginia,
Depending on your state, check into deducting the cost of the books. My daughter is a junior in college and we can deduct her books here.
Virginia, 193...
Montessori is wonderful. All of our kids started with that program and absolutely loved it. I'd recommend it to anyone. The only thing is that if you are a "traditional" educator, it might take awhile to get used to their approach.There are three age levels in one class. Some love this concept, others do not. We never had a problem with it; in fact, our children benefited from interacting with older and younger children. It almost reminded me of the old One Room School in Amish country, where grades one through eight were all together in one classroom, and each child learned at his/her own pace and according to ability, many times helped by their classmates.
handinhand said... 192
Bube's in Mount Joy
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Some may pack up and move to the area for this titillating sounding hotspot alone. (I just noticed the unintentional double entendre(s) as I reviewed the edit. Still clicking publish).
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It's pronounced "Boobies," (really!) and was featured on Syfy's "Ghost Hunters." The spirits there aren't just limited to the bar area.
Lanc native said
children benefited from interacting with older and younger children. It almost reminded me of the old One Room School in Amish country, where grades one through eight were all together in one classroom, and each child learned at his/her own pace and according to ability, many times helped by their classmates
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This is what I am really looking forward to. As children learn from their siblings, they will learn to model behavior from their classmates.
At this time, she is modeling our dogs behavior! Eating cheerios off the floor in a bowl and lifting her leg to pee. Yeah, she needs to be around kids.
I wouldn't exactly say that these kids have been deprived of the world around them. They've traveled, and been to more places than most kids will ever see in their lifetime.
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@ReneeAudric Kateplusmy8 Even her own kids ... unconscionable they have NO exposure to the world around them except visits to Jon. #TooFew
All This Is, I'd rather be single too. I say she wins again because she plotted to steal a married man and if Steve and Gina divorce, Kate's masterminding worked AGAIN.
I wouldn't exactly say that these kids have been deprived of the world around them. They've traveled, and been to more places than most kids will ever see in their lifetime.
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I think they've gotten a variety trips, more than the average child. Whether they really learned much, really experienced those places rather than were expected to just hit their marks, is questionable. Moreover, I don't believe traveling is a key component of a well rounded child. It's nice, but certainly not essential. And nobody is going to care they went to Alaska when they're writing their college essays. You can't say they haven't traveled and seen a lot of the world, that's true.
Mel said... 135
So...if it took them a year and a half to write the book, and K/Beth were holed up in hotels on the weekends, and K had volunteers in during the week to watch the kids....um...again....just exactly when did K watch the kids?
I think that Blind Gossip item might have been our TFW. Bolding is mine.
– This top celebrity makes a big deal out of talking about motherhood and how much time she spends being a good mom. She would lead you to believe that she dotes on her children and takes an active role in thier lives. Not so. When the kid/s were little, she only changed about one out of every hundred diapers. The kid/s are being raised by a small army of nannies. Our star has limited contact with them except during photo opportunities....
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The site "Blind Gossip" would never in a million years refer to Kate Gosselin (patooey) as a "Top Celebrity". Never. They would refer to Kart as a DLister wanna be or other similar language. They are usually very clear in their descriptions.
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I think Heidi Klum was the favorite on that Blind Gossip item?
Lalaland
I agree Admin that the kids' travel was not necessarily a good experience or educational. They were pushed around so fast, probably did extra takes of things, waited around in the sun too long. When they were tired and hungry, did anyone care or help them? And they were young. I would think their memories are like a few snapshots.
My parents tried to take us on a different vacation each year. Driving around in the station wagon with 5 people and the kids not using seatbelts. We went educational places. Museums, battle fields, historical places. They taught us how to behave in a museum and pointed out interesting facts. That sort of thing. They made the trips mostly fun. (I wanted to sleep in more.)
I just can't picture anything like that from Gosselin filming. They would film and move on. It is boring filming to watch a family read descriptions and point out an interesting museum piece. The children seemed so unfocused. And Kate has no interest if it isn't about her own life.
Just had to comment regarding Montessori. Be careful, because Montessori is a generic term, and schools can use the name without following her program. Montessori is a good educational concept. Just do your research. Compare the school's pedagogy with Maria Montessori's writings and research.
At this time, she is modeling our dogs behavior! Eating cheerios off the floor in a bowl and lifting her leg to pee. Yeah, she needs to be around kids.
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LOL!! That is not to say, though, that none of her two-year-old classmates do this, too!
Yes, a huge, huge factor is that they did the bulk of this traveling when they were so little.
They won't remember most of it. And if they were old enough to remember they certainly were not old enough to really understand and appreciate much of it. A far off place like Australia is much more wonderful when you are old enough to read about it, its history, people and culture, first. And then when you are there understand and connect what you learned with where you are.
When the kids were in Australia their priorities appeared to be the beach and zoos. You could drive three hours for all of that in PA.
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