The notorious Arizona eatery featured on Kitchen Nightmares is in the news again. This time because of a viral video which appears to show one of the owners, Samy Bouzaglo, chasing after a customer with a weapon. His wife Amy in turn calls the customer a "piece of sh** coward."
Samy and Amy say the patron was drunk, and that Samy had a pen in his hand, not a knife.
Should such volatile and unstable people be cast on reality T.V. in the first place?
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Sue said... 15
I thought Milo once hinted that she ran some sort I'd mail-order business from her home. Maybe I'm thinking of another sheep. They all blend together in my mind after a while.
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Sue, that's the way I was remembering it, too. Then, like you, I wondered if I were confusing one sheep with another. But since we both have the same memory, maybe there's something to it. I do seem to recall Iwana had an ebay business and thought maybe I was thinking of him.
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Marie-hole-in-heart supposedly ran mail order business out of her home. She and Iwana used to tweet back and forth about it. He was doing the same thing.
I've always been under the impression that Milo worked for LOM who is an accountant or CPA, perhaps has his own business.
I bet she means hard to get people to agree with HER. Lol. Poor Gladys trying to make herself sound so important because she was in a board meeting.
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Or she reads here and saw the comments about her being an elderly man in a facility, and she wants to set the record straight, thus, she runs and business and heads a board meeting.
"I hope she has a good attorney and the funds to
do it. Those things can go on for years!"
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No worries there. BV will find her an attorney who takes her case (or cases) pro bono, or BV will pay her legal fees for her.That's what best friends do for each other.
What's this?? I loved that show too but I hadn't heard about this. Please don't tell me the entire show was fake?!
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I don't know about the entire show, but it looked to me as if that collar tug was a set up by Grant. You can google it to see the video and come to your own conclusion. I vote fake. It's "reality tv". lol
GH investigated a few places in my area, and I've spoken to some of those who had personal contact with them. They couldn't say enough about how professionally they conducted themselves and they would love to work with them again.What impressed them was how much they respected the places they were filming.
I was also told that what you see on a half-hour show is only a small part of it, that investigations take several days and the amount of technical equipment is incredible. It takes hours and hours to do the set-up, and the whole thing is really fascinating to watch.
I was also told that no, they don't fake anything. They are up front and honest, and if they don't find anything, they will not "invent" something. The people with whom I spoke were very impressed with the whole experience. GH is there to try to "debunk" local stories and legends, not to embellish or pretend something is there when it isn't.
For what it's worth...
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I thought she got emotional because it was taken in front of their first house and she said how much they loved that house. 17
Many of us gave her the benefit of the doubt early on. In hindsight, we were all "formerly duped."
No offense to the poster of that name.
A lot of us got suckered. I feel the worst for the church people who gave "love offerings" to the poor little rich girl.
I did not mean her twitter was literally shut down, but obviously this birthday year is different with her being so quiet. It is a breathe of fresh air. I am just guessing TLC told her to zip it while they are filming so at least they can promo some big reveal. I think we already guessed it anyway. Kate and TLC are predictable. Another reason I am bored and stepping away from the Gosselins. I do find the BV article interesting, though. I knew there had to be some link between those two. BV got publicity and a hater blog got shut down; a win-win for two conspirators. I could not fathom why BV would ever take on Kate's critics unless there was something in it for the both of them and maybe some day we'll find out if there was cash involved. BV is out to make money and Kate never, ever does anything for free. I don't know why there is any suggestion those two had a falling out. I think BV had other fish to fry and just let the Kate episode fade out. Frankly, her involvement with BV may be the biggest story yet.
@Kateplusmy8: Happy Birthday 2 my sweet loving wonderful 14 yr olds! It was a lovely day, complete w all the usual traditions&some surprises! #I❤️USOMUCH
@Pumpkinbottom3: @Kateplusmy8 can't wait to hear the reaction!
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Judging by Jamie's response to TFW's tweet I'm pretty sure we've guessed what the surprise was. Although with filming going on I don't know how much of a surprise it could be unless they renovated the basement and made part of it into a new room for the twins. Maybe a basement renovation is why she was suddenly using dehumidifies down there.
They know their surprise now so why not just say what it was? Why keep up the obnoxious teasing and inuendos? Oh wait because it was filmed and your life and what you can and can't reveal is dictated by some lame cable TV network. What a world.
Didn''t the twins have a full wing to themselves? Kate was always saying no one could go up there.(Remember when Mady beat Alexis for trying to go up, and of course the famous clean-up Kate did, tossing items down the stairs after not being in there for a month?) While I know they shared a bedroom, surely there were other rooms up there? I don't know the layout, but why is renovating it so super special? ( although very nice) They already had the privacy and space.
It does seem rather silly to renovate what's already a very adequate huge house with ample space for the children and ample room for the twins to get away from their little siblings. The problems of the 1%.
I bet it was the basement that was converted into a teen apartment. That way, there are more bedrooms upstairs for the other kids not to share.
Anyone think TLC did some kind of crossover show with with the renovation? This really burns me up that this woman got a free new kitchen and now some other free renovation that she can well afford on her own. No wonder she wants to continue filming. It would be one thing if she put that saved money into a fund for the kids, but I doubt that's what her intentions are because she will never be "mediocre". Oh well, I'll just wait for the day someone finally exposes her and TLC. Too bad Robert's book has made little impact. He would have been better off keeping his powder dry and working with investigative journalists.
I don't imagine they're renovating anything--no structural changes, anyway. y guess is that they've just redecorated, to better suit M&C's teenage sensibilities.Wouldn't surprise me to learn that the twins' living quarters were never really decorated in the first place.
Whatever TFW did, it was a bribe to the twins so they would never want to leave the house to visit their Dad. Pathetic.
Kate has set a precedent for these over-the-top birthday celebrations. What happens when the money dries up? Some very spoiled kids will be very angry. Those kids expect STUFF.
Maybe the girl tups will get the twins' suite then, and the 3 bedrooms the tups have now ( boys and girls plus a spare) will go to the boys? Or maybe the icky boys will be banished to the isolated wing? That is, if the twins get the basement- but that's the playroom, and where they come inside in bad weather so I don't know if Kate would want that gone- but maybe more extensive renos are being done. Oh well, can't say I care much.
One would hope that the girl tups would get a bigger bedroom.
>8000 square feet in that home and they have to sleep in a closet that makes a prison cell look like The Ritz.
It's a good thing Kate recruited Pumpkinbutt to tweet to about all her little secrets and surprises. Otherwise who would she have besides Milo and Uggs and a couple of other creepy sheep and that's rather embarrassing for a 'famous' realitytv mom. I wonder if Jamie knows she's being used.
I wonder if Jamie knows she's being used.
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She's Kate's paid toadie. I don't think she gives a crap.
Anyone who could look at crying kids while mixing drinks and hopping into a limo for a "girl's" weekend in NYC has got ice water running through their veins.
Jamie tweeted "Can't wait to hear the reaction!" - dude, call your
friend and ask her! Again, back to the junior high vibe - (singsong)
"I know something you don't know!" What a couple of "twit-teases"
she and TFW are.
Tucker's Mom said... 36
One would hope that the girl tups would get a bigger bedroom.
>8000 square feet in that home and they have to sleep in a closet that makes a prison cell look like The Ritz.
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But closets are where props are usually kept when not in use.
FlimsyFlamsy said... 39
Jamie tweeted "Can't wait to hear the reaction!" - dude, call your
friend and ask her! Again, back to the junior high vibe - (singsong)
"I know something you don't know!" What a couple of "twit-teases"
she and TFW are.
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It's beyond pathetic that these 2 grown as women communicate via Twitter.
Nitwits.
Oooh, let's code speak on social networks!!
"I know something you don't know!" What a couple of "twit-teases she and TFW are.
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They remind me of a couple of snotty cheerleaders in junior high who point, whisper and giggle about anyone who isn't part of their clique. It must rip Gladys's heart out. :(
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 1h1 hour ago
@Pumpkinbottom3 @Kateplusmy8 Yep..all of us would love2know how life N the #GosselinCamp is goin! She's been teasing us w/ #SecretProject :)
All of you? All six of you? I don't recall her Twitter traffic being such that it was jammed with queries from all over the world about the project.
Poor Jamie. Kate won't answer her, so now she's trying to go through Jamie.
"I bet it was the basement that was converted into a teen apartment. That way, there are more bedrooms upstairs for the other kids not to share. "
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I doubt it. I'd really be surprised if that happened. That's where the kids play and where all of their stuff is kept. Where would they build their Legos, do their crafts projects, and whatever? Certainly not upstairs. Kate wouldn't want them on the first floor, anywhere near her, to mess up the dining room, living room, family room and kitchen. Out of sight and out of mind.
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I was also told that no, they don't fake anything. They are up front and honest, and if they don't find anything, they will not "invent" something. The people with whom I spoke were very impressed with the whole experience. GH is there to try to "debunk" local stories and legends, not to embellish or pretend something is there when it isn't.
For what it's worth...
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I'm sure they do try to do a professional paranormal investigation, whatever their interpretation of a professional paranormal investigation is (?) but it is reality tv and we know how honest and forthright that can be at times.
If you watch the video on Youtube - Jacket Pull Debunk 5:44 - it does raise some suspicion that Grant was partaking of a little chicanery imo, but he always seemed a little shifty-eyed to me, so I'm probably biased.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 1h1 hour ago
@Pumpkinbottom3 @Kateplusmy8 Yep..all of us would love2know how life N the #GosselinCamp is goin! She's been teasing us w/ #SecretProject :)
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You get that Kate lords knowing something that you don't know over your head and you still worship her.
Unreal.
Did she actually tweet Happy Birthday to the twins? I thought she said they do not have twitter accounts.
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Did Gladys ever wish the girls a HB? Seems like it's all been about Kate. No tweets today asking if the girls had a good time, just this directed at how Kate survived:
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 42m42 minutes ago
So how is the #DayAfter...the big FOURTEEN event going 4you @Kateplusmy8? Can U slow down a bit? Always on the move! :)
I hope that Kate isn't an ungrateful bitch when she gets another free home redo.
I'll never get over how she was too tired from her lavish BHI vacation to even get it up for her free 100K+ kitchen makeover.
bm: It is weird for Kate to tweet HB to the twins.Wouldn't she say it in person LOL? It's all for show. She insists they do not have any social media or access to it. Ha!
You are forgetting....that is a huge house so the e basement area is huge. It may not all be finished area either. I recall that there is already a full bath in the basement so I am guessing there is a bedroom too. According to public records, the house is 7,095 sq. feet with 6 bedrooms and 7 bathrooms. And that bedroom count probably does not include the garage bedroom as that is a separate building. Years ago we had a garage apartment and that sq. footage was not included.
Any one else having trouble posting? The whole message disappears as soon as I go to send it.
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But closets are where props are usually kept when not in use.
I hope it's not too late to post about GH!! LOL. GH was our favorite show. We would tape it on Weds. nights and watch the episodes over and over throughout the week until the next episode aired. We were excited that they were New England guys who got their own show. But as the years went on and the cast kept changing, the locations turned into pretty much commericial or famous locations (they investigated fewer and fewer homes) we began to lose interest. I think the final nail in the coffin for us was when they made big deal about their investigation of Alcatraz and all the show amounted to was the GH cast in a studio and clips of their Alcatraz investigation.
We have not watched GH in about 4 or 5 years. It was a great show, at first but it just lost it's spark.
Oh, and to anyone who visits the TAPS forums on TAPS website be warned, they are the worst trolls in the entire Internet. The members are just horrid. They pick on people horribly, unless you agree with them. Even if you post something nice, they still will try to pick a fight. I gave up on that forum years ago as well.
And Kate was also reportedly very rude and even left at the unveiling of her home makeover after the babies were born, and described in a book ( forget which) how garish and horrible the new look was.
That is WEIRD Kate would tweet HB to the twins. There is no point other than Kate could not contain herself and needed the twitter world to know the twins' birthday. Or, the girls do indeed have twitter accounts.
But as the years went on and the cast kept changing, the locations turned into pretty much commericial or famous locations (they investigated fewer and fewer homes) we began to lose interest.
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I was told that was because some homeowners fabricated stories just to get themselves on television...their 15 minutes of fame, whereas the "commercial" locations had years of documented "hauntings."
Makes sense to me, but then again, I'm not in the inner circle! ;)
You are forgetting....that is a huge house so the e basement area is huge. It may not all be finished area either. I recall that there is already a full bath in the basement so I am guessing there is a bedroom too. According to public records, the house is 7,095 sq. feet with 6 bedrooms and 7 bathrooms.
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Depends on which site you look...the house has ranged anywhere to 6,000 square feet to 7,000 square feet with various numbers of bedrooms and bathsl. In this area, basements, whether finished or not and garages aren't allowed to be counted in the total square footage of a house.
Regardless, Kate is boring, and it doesn't matter to me if she took the entire basement and turned it into an apartment, a filming studio, or a commercial yoga room, or if she built an addition onto the house just for her bird. I'm not planning on watching anything having to do with them, but I will read admin's recaps (if she's up to doing them!).
"They remind me of a couple of snotty cheerleaders in junior high who point, whisper and giggle about anyone who isn't part of their clique. It must rip Gladys's heart out. :("
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She's not getting anything out of Deanna either. It must really be killing her. Why doesn't she just call, DM or e-mail Kate to find out since they are such bosom buddies?
I doubt if Kate's not tweeting has anything to do with TLC silencing her. When has that ever stopped her before?
Formerly Duped said... 53
And Kate was also reportedly very rude and even left at the unveiling of her home makeover after the babies were born, and described in a book ( forget which) how garish and horrible the new look was.
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It was fairly hideous. That big old Humpty Dumpty was scary. But she got a bigger, better house anyway. It seems to me Jon even complained that he had to report the improvements on his income tax or something .
And yes Tucker's she was far too exhausted probably from frolicking with Ratclaws on the BHI vacay to appreciate the reveal of her new kitchen.
The thing with Kate is whenever her cup runneths over, she dumps it out and expects it to be filled again.
Oh, and I forgot to mention that I remember when GH did an investigation at a bar or restaurant (don't recall the location), but it was wired to pull all kinds of ghostly pranks because patrons were expecting to be spooked. The team found the trickery, and were really ticked off that the owner hadn't informed them of that. Therefore, they didn't know what was real and what was fake, and refused to go along with anything because they knew they were being duped.
Brenda Schuettler @sweetbren66 5m5 minutes ago
@Kateplusmy8 happy birthday twinsies. I hope your day is gr8 #SoPretty #Enjoy
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My mother is an identical twin. Her mother used to dress the two sister alike until they were old enough to complain about it, and then she relented. My mom and her sister are extremely close and happy to be twins, but I have a feeling she would have cringed to receive such a birthday greeting, especially in her teen years. "Twinsies"? Too cutesy by far.
Mrs. Uggs has a new fella! A man crush! Good gosh, woman, find a guy and stick with him!
Brenda Schuettler @sweetbren66
@ryansmithtv I love watching you on @ABC @GMA you are a great addition and #NotSoBadOnTheEyes #ThurdsayManCrush
Sometimes I love the sheeple -- much more fun than TFW.
But closets are where props are usually kept when not in use.
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Best quote of the year!!!!
AuntieAnn said...57
It was fairly hideous. That big old Humpty Dumpty was scary. But she got a bigger, better house anyway. It seems to me Jon even complained that he had to report the improvements on his income tax or something .
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Yes, AuntieAnn, you have to report this on your income taxes! The companies that donate give you a IRS form because it is taxable income. On TAGS, AB won 4K in prizes when she and the family went to Hollywood. Then the IRS showed up, played by Father Mulcahy, and told AT that AB owed the IRS almost 1100 dollars. AT flipped out and AB sold everything to pay off the taxes and just kept the garbage disposal.
The swag bags at the red carpet events are TI, remember when Lane Furniture GAVE everything to them, Lane Furniture even paid their tax bill for them. I would think that the money LF used to pay the tax bill would be more TI.
That is why I was wondering way back when she got the solar panels on her roof and Steve from TOH told her that she could get 4K tax break, that pricked her ears up because at that point she was not paying attention and acting like a jerk. I wondered if she had let them put them on and got the tax break and then sold them to make more money. But someone said that they drove by? or thought she still had them on her roof.
(I saw this recommendation on another website I sometimes look in on laineygossip.com Looks interesting)
(Serial is a new podcast from the creators of This American Life, hosted by Sarah Koenig. Serial will follow one story - a true story - over the course of a whole season. We'll follow the plot and characters wherever they take us and we won’t know what happens at the end of the story until we get there, not long before you get there with us. Each week we'll bring you the latest chapter, so it's important to listen in order, starting with Episode 1. If you need help knowing how podcasts work and how you get one, watch our tutorial. http://serialpodcast.org
Let's see if this disappears before I can post! I keep trying to remove one of the ( that I used above & it keeps flipping around
Did anyone see the Lego art sculptures today on HLN? They were so incredible! The Yellow Man. Wow. Your just speechless because you can't believe they are all made totally of LEGO'S!
SCgal Auntie Ann is the best isn't she?
I was trying to post the same comment as yours on # 51 but it only published part of my message.
@ryansmithtv I love watching you on @ABC @GMA you are a great addition and #NotSoBadOnTheEyes #ThurdsayManCrush
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I must really be out of the loop, but isn't a "girl crush" when a female a a crush on someone, and a "man crush" when a guy has a crush on another person?
It was fairly hideous. That big old Humpty Dumpty was scary. But she got a bigger, better house anyway.
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Fairly hideous? I think that's being kind. That whole thing was scary in a fun house kind of way. It reminded me of a brothel gone bad.
Over And Out said... 60
Mrs. Uggs has a new fella! A man crush! Good gosh, woman, find a guy and stick with him!
Brenda Schuettler @sweetbren66
@ryansmithtv I love watching you on @ABC @GMA you are a great addition and #NotSoBadOnTheEyes #ThurdsayManCrush
Sometimes I love the sheeple -- much more fun than TFW.
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Thurdsay? Is that the day after Wednedsay and right before Frdiay?
I gotta say, who knew Ms. Uggs was going to be so fun when she started out?
I propose a motto. "Sheeple: Picturing their heartthrobs in bathtubs since 2009."
jolie Jacquelyn said... 65
SCgal Auntie Ann is the best isn't she?
I was trying to post the same comment as yours on # 51 but it only published part of my message.
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Aw, thank you that's very kind of you Jolie but I cannot stake that claim. The LOTV (Ladies of the Veranda) here are forever tossing out zingers that make me run for my Poise Pantyliners. Or should that be @PoisePantyliners ?
I'm still laughing over fuckityhundred.
rainbowsandunicorns said... 67
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Fairly hideous? I think that's being kind. That whole thing was scary in a fun house kind of way. It reminded me of a brothel gone bad.
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It was pretty terrifying but it sure suited Kate's personality. Fugly.
I propose a motto. "Sheeple: Picturing their heartthrobs in bathtubs since 2009."
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Virginia Pen Mom (#68), if this is going to be an authentic sheeple
motto, you've got to muck it up grammatically somehow. Maybe
picturing "they're" heartthrobs? Or "there" heartthrobs?
Where did you ladies see photos of the renovated #fun house??
Dream Lover @luvinglife1979 · 19h 19 hours ago
Oh noooes! Zig is MAD that LisaK and the IW's have teamed up. She wants to know if SAGE knows. Poor zig was left out of the loop
Imperfect Woman is doing business with Lisa K and her business. The business Lisa created from the money she received from James McGibney
jolie Jacguelyn 63. I'm enjoying "Serial". Anything Ira Glass is involved in is usually outstanding. Do you listen to This Amercan Life?
Melly said... 74
Imperfect Woman is doing business with Lisa K and her business. The business Lisa created from the money she received from James McGibney
October 9, 2014 at 4:56 PM
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What's going on over there??
Melly said... 74
Imperfect Woman is doing business with Lisa K and her business. The business Lisa created from the money she received from James McGibney
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I saw that but nowhere in that blog article did she say HOW she found out. And of course no one is asking...but me. The fans are just taking her word for it. Do you know how she found out about the IW/Lisa arrangement?
#distentionamongtheranks.
Jane, I'm really enjoying it too. This is the first podcast I've ever listened to, believe it or not, but not the last.
I doubt if Kate's not tweeting has anything to do with TLC silencing her. When has that ever stopped her before?
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Nothing, except she wants to please TLC and continue getting fat pay checks. I really believe TLC specifically told her not to leak. You wait. TLC will be teasing the crap out of the December show.
Now Barb is creeping in with Milo and Jamie:
Barbara Gilmer @BarbGilmer 2h2 hours ago
@Pumpkinbottom3 @Kateplusmy8 Oh so you know what the surprise was Huh? :)
"Imperfect Woman is doing business with Lisa K and her business. The business Lisa created from the money she received from James McGibney"
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Do we know this for certain, or is this just something that is circulating in wake of the article on BV?
"I propose a motto. "Sheeple: Picturing their heartthrobs in bathtubs since 2009."
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LOL! She doesn't want to "picture" her heartthrob in a bathtub. She wants to be a soapsox in there WITH him! Funny stuff!
The latest from Mrs. Uggs. Junior still is jobless.
@KimKardashian it's like looking in a mirror. Love baby pics !! #BeautyRunsInFamily you all are gorgeous! #GreatGenes #AppleFalling 🍎🍏🍎🍏😍
19mBrenda Schuettler @sweetbren66
@daisych1 hi. Still job hunting. Big!! Interview last week with a huge company. #fingerscrossed thanks for asking. How r u?
What? No Yankees?
34mBrenda Schuettler @sweetbren66
@Sherrod_Small still in LA ?? Keep doing you !!! You deserve it all!! Hope to get to NYC to see your gig soon #MissingNYC
Look out, Sherrod. Someone is going to be pestering for tickets!
37mBrenda Schuettler @sweetbren66
@TheSharkDaymond HI!!! I have not heard from you in a bit. I hope all is well #CrossedMyMind
Oh, no! I guess that bathie didn't work out!
Sheeple are so exhausting. It's hard to keep up with them!
I really believe TLC specifically told her not to leak.
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Kate does as Kate wants to do. I really don't think that she'd listen to anything that TLC would tell her, especially when it comes to tweeting.
I know the discussion is a little bit more relevant than usual now because of the recent article about BV but let's be careful to limit our discussions that go in the direction of a blog that just talks about other blogs. Thanks.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 2h2 hours ago
@Kateplusmy8 I was going to hea
Heave? Heaven?
Formerly Duped said... 72
Where did you ladies see photos of the renovated #fun house??
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Formerly, I can't remember where the photos were posted. I did a search on google but so far nothing. They showed the babies' room, Jon and Kate's bedroom, and the bathroom where there were Post-It notes still stuck to the mirror - I remember that much but where escapes me.
I know the discussion is a little bit more relevant than usual now because of the recent article about BV but let's be careful to limit our discussions that go in the direction of a blog that just talks about other blogs. Thanks.
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You just read my mind! Nothing has been confirmed about any involvement that a former blogger may have with a current blog, what money, if any, exchanged hands, or who is in bed with whom.
I don't know if the Defective has a blog or not, and I don't read other Kate blogs, but I did read some of her tweets when she was on that manic tweeting frenzy. One in particular stood out for me -- the mockery she made about someone losing a baby and asking if there was a lot of blood. That spoke volumes. No matter if there is a sheeple-hater war or not, there is absolutely no excuse for anyone to make such a hurtful remark to or about another person. That one tweet told me all I need to know about that person, and if Kate considers "supporters" such as this as being normal, then heaven help her, and for those who are internet friends of this person, then heaven help them, too. Such nastiness, anger and meanness indicates that something is going on there and professional intervention is needed now...not sometime in the future.
Oh, my GOSH!
Jan Hooks, who was on SNL and Designing Women died this morning in NY.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/09/jan-hooks-dead-dies_n_5961882.html
If the mentally ill make a scene in the grocery store or library or workplace they are kindly escorted out. If they become so unhinged their children are at risk we take those children away. If it gets bad enough we can even place them on psych holds. There are consequences for manic and deranged behavior in real life. There are no such consequences on Twitter. It's an open forum where anyone even the mentally ill can just cut loose without repercussions. I imagine to someone who feels like that is not possible in other aspects of their life they may seek out the Internet in order to satisfy their urges without fear of repercussion. In many ways it's heartbreaking to imagine someone with such angst and inability to keep emotions in control.
Remember the finale of breaking bad where Walt finally admits he did this all for himself not for the family? So many parallels to lots of selfish people who justify their bad behavior by claiming it was really for the good of the family. Please. Sadly Kate is decidedly in that group.
Formerly, I can't remember where the photos were posted. I did a search on google but so far nothing. They showed the babies' room, Jon and Kate's bedroom, and the bathroom where there were Post-It notes still stuck to the mirror - I remember that much but where escapes me.
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And the twins room, and a bathroom sink. Wasn't there a video floating around on YouTube or a slide show somewhere?
In many ways it's heartbreaking to imagine someone with such angst and inability to keep emotions in control.
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If they fly into rages on Twitter and the internet, with all hell breaking loose and their anger uncontrolled, is it possible to shut it off in "real life" when they around family and friends? Can they really control the situation to such a degree that nobody in their circle at home suspects anything is amiss and that there are some very serious mental issues that need immediate attention?
If they fly into rages on Twitter and the internet, with all hell breaking loose and their anger uncontrolled, is it possible to shut it off in "real life" when they around family and friends? Can they really control the situation to such a degree that nobody in their circle at home suspects anything is amiss and that there are some very serious mental issues that need immediate attention?
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Fair point. I do know the mentally ill are as varied as snowflakes. In light of that I think it's possible some may be able to have more control of their venting than others. Some may indeed be able to do that. It may also depend on the day too.
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Formerly Duped said... 72
Where did you ladies see photos of the renovated #fun house??
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Formerly, I can't remember where the photos were posted. I did a search on google but so far nothing. They showed the babies' room, Jon and Kate's bedroom, and the bathroom where there were Post-It notes still stuck to the mirror - I remember that much but where escapes me.
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Here is the slide show that shows the horrendous renovations to the first, some of the renovations to the second one and also some pics of the new one.
http://s424.photobucket.com/user/CelebHouses/slideshow/?albumview=slideshow
AuntieAnn--the Humpty Dumpty pic is #41. I know you'd want to see that one again!! :)
Geez, Twit, it is worse than I remembered it. I had forgotten how hideous the twins' room was.
Auntie is NOT going to want to see Humpty before bedtime!
AuntieAnn--the Humpty Dumpty pic is #41. I know you'd want to see that one again!! :)
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KIAT - Thank you :) You are the dependable librarian here when it comes to Gosselin archives. OMG, I had forgotten how truly awful those colors were... and that terrifying Humpty mural! You're right Sleepless. Now I'm gonna be sleepless, too.
I know those women meant well, but you would think they would have opted for more subtle colors in some of those rooms. And that bathroom. EEEEEK. (That's my shriek, not Kate's).
Here's a pic of Kate in her wedding gown (from the first time she duped Jon).
Before kids and before the good bra was invented:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_vCQ3X4vHJ7A/Sqp_L-sdQhI/AAAAAAAAAAM/MkqXWWwUMcI/s320/Gosselin_old_wedding_02-fb.jpg
I scanned the article about the BV guy. I am still confused by much of this but I see a basic problem. He claims that his father was a bully for knocking out his mother. He claims other foster parents were bullies for abusing him physically and/or sexually.
I disagree with him what bullies are. People who beat up their wives and children are not bullies, they are criminals. I think of bullying as usually (not always) just a tad more subtle. The bully often manages to have slightly plausible deniability when confronted.
It is sad and awful that this man is working on his own childhood issues by making others' lives miserable. I do not understand how he has gotten so many people to trust him.
and that terrifying Humpty mural! You're right Sleepless. Now I'm gonna be sleepless, too.
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lol!! It could have been worse..."It" the clown comes to mind.
Sleep well.
Jeanne so well said. I'm very sorry for anyone with such sad childhood issues. But that's between them, the perpetrators, a therapist and the courts. It's unfair and uncalled for to wrap up other people in your vortex of unresolved issues. That includes both using unassuming folks to further the cause and the numerous threats and outings. I'm very pleased to know that other people are starting to understand the true depth of the dysfunction here. This is not about ending bullying. It's about someone's personal issues disguised as some kind of noble cause. That's wrong.
Before kids and before the good bra was invented:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_vCQ3X4vHJ7A/Sqp_L-sdQhI/AAAAAAAAAAM/MkqXWWwUMcI/s320/Gosselin_old_wedding_02-fb.jpg
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I had forgotten about that picture. Two fried eggs magically morphed into two nice firm cantaloupes. Someone should put that photo on Kate's TL, along with an "after" picture of her in a bikini or one of her favorite halter tops. Of course, the sheeple will say that those puppies just grew naturally after she had kids...one cup size for each of the kids.
Scary when you can think like they do, and know exactly what their answer would be!
Sleepless In Seattle said... 83
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 2h2 hours ago
@Kateplusmy8 I was going to hea
Heave? Heaven?
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LOL, Sleepless!
It finally happened. Lights Out Man yanked the keyboard away mid-thought.
Jeanne (97) and Admin (98), both of you are absolutely right. Very well said. The depth of mental illness displayed and reported on BVFiles is so disturbing. That TFW allowed herself to become embroiled with them is more than disturbing.
I'd also like to echo AuntieAnn's thanks to KIAT for the links to whatever topic is discussed. Good work.
I know those women meant well, but you would think they would have opted for more subtle colors in some of those rooms. And that bathroom. EEEEEK. (That's my shriek, not Kate's).
October 9, 2014 at 8:37 PM
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Those volunteers meant well and it looked like they put a lot of time and effort into Jon and Kate's house, but it was so disjointed and no editing whatsoever!
The girls' room was like a fairy tale book exploded inside a circus tent, and those garish purple and gold strips were vertigo inducing.
That said, when you hand over your home like that, you lose all control.
It was a dumb decision to someone like Kate, who's decorating taste runs very Plain Jane.
I used to watch Trading Spaces until it became a freak sow of gluing straw and silk flowers to walls and pissing owners off for ratings.
You couldn't have watched that show and not known how that show worked.
Some of those designers treated the show clients like they were Double Wide Doofuses and had no respect for the homes they were crapping all over to make their superior point.
When you think about it, the internet is a liar's worst enemy. How many times has TFW been called out for contradicting herself? I "always" this, I "never" that...nope, sorry sister, that's not true, and here's the proof.
A few days ago, someone here posted an old tweet of TFW's in
all caps, saying something about not having time for bullying,
and that she'd rather spend her time being positive, and helping others, or some such nonsense. Any longtime reader of this
blog could probably think of 10 statements of hers off the top of
our heads to contradict that. For me, that tweet was a laugh riot
when I remembered TFW using her savings blog to rip Tony
and Anderson a new one (two new ones?), because they'd
joked about her. How was that being positive? How was that
helping others? She certainly wasn't behaving in a way that
scanned with all those flowery platitudes she tweets and
retweets. And that's why I can't help scratching my head
about the devotion of this very small handful of fans who
continue to support someone who, based on her own words,
is a liar and a hypocrite. Will they ever see the truth?
Any longtime reader of this
blog could probably think of 10 statements of hers off the top of
our heads to contradict that.
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I bet we can think of 10 Gosselin "traditions" that contradict!
The only immutable tradition of Kate's is to use and film her children for money, whenever possible.
This picture of the wedding renewal gown is more fried eggish.
http://tinyurl.com/mlvhsel
Cantaloupe City:
http://tinyurl.com/nbwnq8v
Kate's using the CC blog as a bully pulpit to rail against Tony and Anderson reflected on the owner, Scott, as much as Kate.
For Scott to allow his company's website to be used in that manner showed a marked lapse in judgement.
But it did appear that Scott realized the complete joke that Kate's "tips" were and how inappropriate it was to allow Kate to first of all, use her blog to respond to AC's show, and second, to dole out obscenely off-the-mark couponing advice such as choosing from 3 cars to best suit your errands, and saving money on pool memberships by having a lavish in-ground pool.
Kate's suggestions on saving money on laundry bordered on downright disgusting.
And that's why I can't help scratching my head
about the devotion of this very small handful of fans who
continue to support someone who, based on her own words,
is a liar and a hypocrite. Will they ever see the truth?
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In a word, never.
If they can believe Kate hasn't had her breasts enhanced, when those mounds are undeniable, then there's no expecting them to have any critical thought rolling around in their heads.
Re: Abby Lee Miller. My daughter watches Dance Moms and she told me that she read Abby insulted another 13 year old dancer, Chloe, by making fun of her 'lazy" eye which appears to droop- she is a very pretty girl though.This was edited out. She also insulted her dancing and other aspects of her personality, and these were shown on the finale.
I recall Paige had a chair thrown by Abby right next to her, and she was very mean to her..I won't watch the show now, but why does this woman have, what, three shows??
I recall Paige had a chair thrown by Abby right next to her, and she was very mean to her..I won't watch the show now, but why does this woman have, what, three shows??
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I don't know why Abbey seems to pop up on crossover shows.
Publicity and marketing, I guess, but sure enough, she's also getting richly rewarded for behaving badly.
I think underneath it all, Abbey is an insecure teenager herself, and have seen her practically pee down her leg when people stand up her her and her antics.
She was the biggest suck up I've ever seen on The View, and I wanted to kiss Maks for dismissing Abbey's feedback because she was woefully miscast as a judge of the amazingly talented, hard-working dance pros on DWTS.
I don't think my post about the horrendously horrendous home make-over was published. I wanted to thank Kate is a Twit for the slideshow. While it was an awful make-over, if you sign up for one, you at least get media attention and probably other things. They could paint over the awful mural and other surfaces and remove the curtains and stick-ons- Kate's brother helped paint the twins' room in E-town- and be gracious and not rehash the disaster in her book. This was free and consented to- yes, it was ugly, but that's the chance you take.
Abby Lee Miller is the star of Dance Moms, Abby's Ultimate Dance Competition and Abby's Studio Rescue.She is a frequent guest on talk shows.Another narcissist.The episodes have been proven to be scripted and show faked competition results.You never really see Abby demonstrating dance moves, merely yelling out dance terms.The insults and heavy-handedness with the girls seem real, though. It's obvious other people choreograph the routines.Abby is supposedly this great mentor but she is just a bully. Why do these people come out on top?
Tucker's Mom said... 103
I used to watch Trading Spaces until it became a freak sow of gluing straw and silk flowers to walls and pissing owners off for ratings.
You couldn't have watched that show and not known how that show worked.
Some of those designers treated the show clients like they were Double Wide Doofuses and had no respect for the homes they were crapping all over to make their superior point.
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I remember the straw glued to the walls and think it was about the time I quit watching Trading Spaces too. How some of them could call themselves decorators is beyond me. It's Interesting that the woman who took charge of the redo on Jon and Kate's house cites their name, albeit misspelled, in the interior designer directory:
"NBC Jon & Kate Gossilen-designer for pilot. Extreme Home Makeover-Berks, PA. Interior Home Show, Phila, PA"
Pilot? So was Kate already show shopping when the tups were just weeks old? Rhetorical question. Of course she was.
Formerly Duped said... 114
You never really see Abby demonstrating dance moves, merely yelling out dance terms.
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I always wondered why she never danced. Not to be snide about it, but it would have been a great way for her to drop those extra hundred pounds and walk the talk instead of just standing there bellering at her students.
I remember the straw glued to the walls and think it was about the time I quit watching Trading Spaces too. 115
The one that did me in was when all the furniture was on the ceiling.
This was free and consented to- yes, it was ugly, but that's the chance you take.
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The people who did that, bless their hearts, thought they were doing the family a favor. However, before you do anything like that, you ask the homeowners what they prefer, their likes and dislikes, color preferences, and whatever. You just don't take it upon yourself and do it the way you think it should be done, especially if you aren't a professional decorator and haven't had a considerable amount of experience under your belt. The results could be disastrous and tacky, as we have seen. I'm not so sure just "painting over" that bathroom sink and vanity was an option, unless in the hands of a professional. It seems more like that entire thing would have to be replaced unless someone really knew what they were doing. Yes, you could paint over the walls, take down the curtains, but that would mean additional workers in your home, painters, people measuring for curtains, etc., and I would think that would be just one more inconvenience that you'd need to worry about.
Jeanne said... 97
The bully often manages to have slightly plausible deniability when confronted.
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Or is able to give the impression that they meant no harm after they've bullied. We watched Kate berate Jon for years but when he got defensive about it she'd feign inculpability. She did it with Tony, Jodi and Beth too and most people whom she thought she was a cut above. Kate very much fits the description of a bully.
I read some of the things that Abbey was accused of doing in the lawsuit. Paige said that Abbey would pinch the girls so hard, it drew blood! That is CHILD ABUSE! She would never pinch another kid if that would of been mine! Who does she think she is?
Why didn't the parent go to the police and file a police report? Because of the money. They would loose that big paycheck from TLC. SAD SAD SAD!
In a word, never.
If they can believe Kate hasn't had her breasts enhanced, when those mounds are undeniable, then there's no expecting them to have any critical thought rolling around in their heads.
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I agree, and even though they believe Kate never had anything done to her face, that she just de-ages naturally, has there ever been any denial on their part about the breast implants? I don't recall them commenting that those mounds are the real deal, or have they avoided that issue entirely by sweeping it under the rug and pretending those "girls" don't exist?
Thinking of Mrs. Malaprop right now! How is Dr. M? I'm sick with this darn bronchitis, watching an old episode of Roseanne, and Norm Crosby is in the role of a minister. who is joining Leon and Scott in the bonds of holy alimony..."Do you take this person to be your awfully rabid husband?"
"I used to watch Trading Spaces until it became a freak sow of gluing straw and silk flowers to walls and pissing owners off for ratings.
You couldn't have watched that show and not known how that show worked."
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Remember the woman who had to walk out of the room and she could be heard sobbing? I think it was after Doug did a contemporary re-do and closed up the fireplace. And, of course, those silk flowers glued to the bathroom wall, compliments of Hildi (is that correct?). Can you imagine the dust those things would pick up, not to mention what happens when the shower steam gets to them and they get moldy and mildewy? You just wanted to grab those "decorators" and ask them what the heck they were thinking! All for ratings, I guess, and the sobbing wife really did make people watch.
Rhymes with Witch said... 117
The one that did me in was when all the furniture was on the ceiling.
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LOL! Now that's just mean.
The one that did me in was when all the furniture was on the ceiling.
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LOL! Now that's just mean. 122
Another Hildi special of course.
October 10, 2014 at 11:27 AM
Why didn't the parent go to the police and file a police report?
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Maybe there was something written in the contract that wouldn't allow them to do this. You'd think, though, that if there was child abuse involved, the terms of the contract, if there were one, would have been invalid.
I think the reason that the family is suing ALM now is because their contract is finally up. They couldn't sue while under contract. I read that the dancer Chloe may not be coming back next season. ALM treated her like crap and they had to take it because of the contract obligations. That's what they all take her crap CONTRACTS. ALM favors Maddy and her sister. She makes no bones about it. Their mother actually took them out of school and is now home schooling so they can spend more time in the dance studio. SMH at what some parents will do to further their own ambitions.
Remember the woman who had to walk out of the room and she could be heard sobbing? I think it was after Doug did a contemporary re-do and closed up the fireplace. And, of course, those silk flowers glued to the bathroom wall, compliments of Hildi (is that correct?). Can you imagine the dust those things would pick up, not to mention what happens when the shower steam gets to them and they get moldy and mildewy? You just wanted to grab those "decorators" and ask them what the heck they were thinking! All for ratings, I guess, and the sobbing wife really did make people watch.
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I used to love to watch Trading Spaces -- back in the early seasons. It was a fun show. Of course, certain designers were highly sought after, like Vern Yip. You knew Vern would never create something awful or tacky. There was also a southern lady who usually did a wonderful job too. But Hildi was the worst, and Doug a close second. To go out of your way to create an unlivable, tacky living space within someone's home, that they would have to completely remove and redo the moment you leave -- is just wrong. What about the time Hildi pasted wine bottle labels all over one couple's kitchen -- and the couple were fairly religious and didn't drink! It's like flipping them the bird.
Anyway - that's why I think the show began to lose viewers and eventually get canceled - in part because they were disrespectful to the participants and viewers didn't like that.
Rhymes with Witch said... 117
I remember the straw glued to the walls and think it was about the time I quit watching Trading Spaces too. 115
The one that did me in was when all the furniture was on the ceiling.
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Was that a Hildie, too?
I used to want to smack her smug mug when she'd sit her pearl-clad ass in her LBD in the absolute fuckery she created, like she just loved the idea of crapping all over people's dreams, kicking puppies and stealing lollipops from children.
She always had a very self- satisfied "my work is done here" attitude about her as she proudly surveyed her damage, uh, I mean, work.
Remember the woman who had to walk out of the room and she could be heard sobbing? I
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Yes! I think that was Laurie, who painted when the owner absolutely did not want her walls changed.
Also, ceiling fans are terrific and can be beautiful in a room.
I agree, and even though they believe Kate never had anything done to her face, that she just de-ages naturally, has there ever been any denial on their part about the breast implants?
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Yes, clearly and defiantly to Joy Behar, both on The View, and on the Joy Behar Show.
Kate was asked, clearly and repeatedly by Joy, and she denied a boob job and face lift.
She simply cited her "good bra".
Well I just had to google Hildi Santo-Tomas to see some of her monstrosities. Oy.
>>The Hay Room: Hildi decided it would be great to decorate the walls with hay. She put wallpaper glue on the walls and then tossed hay on them.
The neighbors working with Hildi were quick to point out their concern; there was both a toddler and a baby living in the house.
Needless to say, the homeowners were not happy with the end result. The removal took 17 hours and was reportedly paid for by the production company.<<
http://www.buzzfeed.com/briangalindo/the-5-most-wtf-room-makeovers-hildi-santo-tomas-did-on-tradi#r8rnu0
ALM's downfall is coming, just like KIK. Steven Collins is experiencing this now, after all these years. I read that SC wrote 2 books about sexual fantasies and even had a disclaimer on Seventh Heaven website? that it was a fun read for adults and not for children. He addressed this note to Fans of Seventh Heaven.
Imperfect Woman is doing business with Lisa K and her business. The business Lisa created from the money she received from James McGibney. 74
I don't care about IW or other blogs, but I am surprised if Lisa is maintaining a public presence after screwing over her posters.
She always had a very self- satisfied "my work is done here" attitude about her as she proudly surveyed her damage, uh, I mean, work. 127
Tucker's, damage was the right word.
She simply cited her "good bra". 129
My one and only comment on the subject: even VS Miracle Bra isn't up to that.
I must have missed Hildi's nailing furniture to the ceiling.
That's just mean, nasty and frankly, shows signs of mental illness.
I bet as a kid, Hildi passed her time by pulling legs off spiders and holding a magnifying glass over ants.
Because she could.
I really liked Frank Bialik (sp?) on Trading Spaces. Cool guy.
I think I'd cry if I found out I was going to be made Doug's bitch for 48 hours.
I must have missed Hildi's nailing furniture to the ceiling.
That's just mean, nasty and, shows signs of mental illness. 136
Her smug satisfaction even in the face of the owners' dismay was pretty telling.
That was the end of TS for me.
I must have missed Hildi's nailing furniture to the ceiling.
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Me, too It's one of those things that would stick out in a person's mind, lol.
Good grief, can you imagine stepping out of your house for a few days hoping you'll see a nice transformation when you come home. Then you take your blindfold off and the first thing you see is your furniture on the ceiling. I think I would have grabbed the nailgun and chased her out of town.
Today on Divorce Court, the wife had a ton of complaints
about her husband -- he's like a child, he's lazy, etc. But when
the judge asked if she would move back to her native country of
Italy, she said no, because she wouldn't want to deprive the
children of their father. The judge thanked her for putting that
into the equation, because it's so important. And of course it
made me think of TFW, and what miserable, unkind decisions
she's made after ending her marriage. Not only saying awful
things about her ex-husband in the media, but letting strangers
(whom she considers "supporters") do the dirty work for her in
a public forum. And yet she keeps landing "butter side up"
(Flo said that once on "Alice" - is it a Southern expression?).
Yes, clearly and defiantly to Joy Behar, both on The View, and on the Joy Behar Show.
Kate was asked, clearly and repeatedly by Joy, and she denied a boob job and face lift.
She simply cited her "good bra"\
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Sorry, I wasn't clear in my post. My question was if the sheeple, in blogs or on Twitter, ever denied that Kate had a boob job, even after comparing the before and after picture. I was wondering if they just pretended those photos didn't exist and believed her when she said that she just got a good bra. Or did they just ignore the whole thing? I can't remember even Gladys coming to her defense on the lie about the good bra.
I had never seen the straw room. In addition to kids living there, who knows what insects were hidden in that stuff? I hope they had the entire house exterminated after that mess.
I once decided that I wanted a fireplace mantel constructed from a heavy wooden beam that was pulled out of an historic old barn that was demolished. It looked fantastic when it was done. Then I'd find little pieces of wood on the brick floor of the fireplace. I'd clean it up, only to find more fine pieces dropped there, along with some little white droppings. Seems that the contractor hadn't thought about having it de-bugged, sprayed and sealed before installing it and those critters were having a grand old time living in my family room.
I read the complaint filed by Paige Hyland. Her mother, Kelly, had been a student of Miller when she was a kid, and quit when she was 14 because of emotional abuse, demands, long hours and anxiety. Yet she allowed her daughter to be subject to the very same thing by the same teacher? Something makes no sense here, no matter how you look at it.
I liked Trading Spaces til I noticed all the times they disrespected the owners by using a color they hated or anything else they requested not to be done. Worst one I saw was the owner who hated the look of bare feet so the designers (I don't remember who it was then) made 3 pictures on a wall with drawn line art of a foot. (One section of the foot on each picture) Even put hair on the toes I think. It was hideous.
Is Twazzup working for others? I haven't been able to get in it for a couple days.
@MiloandJack: Discouraged to always hear docs giving me diagnosis of "acute this & acute that"...sweet hubs says it's because U are so CUTE! 😄 haha...
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Milo tweeted this yesterday and no one has asked her if she's OK. Her play for sympathy and attention didnt work.
(Leslie)
I only read here once or twice a week due to time restrictions.Does Lukebandit still posted here lately? It seems I haven't read any from her in a long time. Thanks!
Anon/Leslie, how sweet! Yes, change is good when necessary.
Amanda Bynes was put on a psych hold yesterday after she ranted on Twitter accusing her father of abusing her. I guess she said a short time later that it wasn't true. There's a huge difference between your past and some of the things that may bother you about your past informing your opinions on people like Kate, versus someone with true mental illness or very deep unresolved issues using a blog Twitter or other social media to work them out in a destructive and hurtful way. What someone like Bv did with social media I don't think you can even begin to compare to most people on social media who are able to have an opinion even an opinion you may very strongly disagree with but do so in a way that is not terrorizing of others. Moreover BV went after private people which is apples and oranges to some of the lively snarky chatter about public figures on social media.
Over and Out, I think Kelly was a student of ALM's mother who started the business. She and ALM are about the same age. I might be wrong though.
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I watched the creation of the straw room. It was horrible. I remember one show where a contemporary home got a "castle" room and the neighbors with a vintage home got ultra modern. I knew it was time to stop watching in hopes of getting an inspiring idea. I did not see the furniture on the ceiling episode.
Eeek- why on earth did people sign up for this? Because it's free?
Admin--Given the ongoing controversies and this latest outrage, do you think Dance Moms deserves its own post? Talk about reality TV kids, perpetually in harm's way...
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 148
Amanda Bynes was put on a psych hold yesterday after she ranted on Twitter accusing her father of abusing her. I guess she said a short time later that it wasn't true
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I can only gather my opinion from the media reports, but it seemed that Amanda's parents didn't take this as serious as they should have, as if they wanted to believe that she'd be OK, if only she found the right meds.
Amanda needs a conservator. She's not able to function all on her own at this time, and it might be years, if ever, that she will be able to handle negotiating the world on her own.
It's a very sad thought, but it has to be that Amanda's parents now take the bull by the horns, and assume the worst case scenario out of an abundance of caution.
One more psychological/mental crisis when she's out on the streets, alone, could be her last.
And I've been a really big fan of hers for many years. "What a Girl Wants", anyone?!
One of the Dance Moms girls is suing Abbie Lee Miller for assault. http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2014/10/dance-moms-abby-lee-miller-lawsuit-abuse/
A good article on how the law has not caught up with technology.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2014/10/10/even-at-a-national-memorial-no-one-is-safe-from-creepshots/?tid=hpModule_1f58c93a-8a7a-11e2-98d9-3012c1cd8d1e
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I read the complaint filed by Paige Hyland. Her mother, Kelly, had been a student of Miller when she was a kid, and quit when she was 14 because of emotional abuse, demands, long hours and anxiety. Yet she allowed her daughter to be subject to the very same thing by the same teacher? Something makes no sense here, no matter how you look at it.
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These allegations from Kelley or either revisionist history, or she is one pathetic parent for offering up her child to the very person that abused her.
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I only read here once or twice a week due to time restrictions.Does Lukebandit still posted here lately? It seems I haven't read any from her in a long time. Thanks!
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Sadly, I haven't seen LB here in a while. I miss her on the veranda.
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I bet she means hard to get people to agree with HER. Lol. Poor Gladys trying to make herself sound so important because she was in a board meeting. She probably was the woman who showed the people to the room and made sure and stragglers knew where to go.
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Day late and dollar short over here, but I am willing to bet a crisp $5 bill (fresh off my very own basement press coz I am just that talented) that Milo was at a Resident Council meeting in her care facility, and they were arguing about salisbury steaks vs meatloaf for next month's menu.
I have not read all the comments about Ghost Hunters yet, but is everyone aware that Dave Tango has Tourettes Syndrome and that Jason, Grant, and Steve are active in fund raising and support causes for TS?
Sadly, I haven't seen LB here in a while 157
She's here under a new name after whatever happened on twitter. RBS......
OT: Brooke Shields has written a new book called There Was a Little Girl, about her relationship with her mom, the infamous stage mother Teri Shields. It is the story of how Brooke was the breadwinner as a model and actress, and also tended to her divorced mother's emotional needs, and dealt with her mom's drinking problem. There is also to be details on how this affected her relationships with her own two daughters. I read her book about post-partum depression, which was very good in addressing a common issue- honestly explaining her lack of bonding, violent fantasies, guilt, and how medication helped her through. It was not terribly well-written but the content was there. I will probably read Brooke's new book when it's released.
Do you think Amanda has schizophrenia? It often starts to show itself and get very bad in one's early 20s. This seems like a recent thing.
These allegations from Kelley or either revisionist history, or she is one pathetic parent for offering up her child to the very person that abused her.
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That's exactly what I thought because what parent would do that, knowing exactly from personal experience that the teacher isn't playing with a full deck? It's right there in the complaint, word for word. Yes, I read the entire thing because I am bored with Kate! I would assume that what you put into the lawsuit has to be true and based on facts because if not, you could get yourself into a whole heap of trouble.
"Over and Out, I think Kelly was a student of ALM's mother who started the business. She and ALM are about the same age. I might be wrong though."
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That's what I thought also, because the wording in the complaint was a bit confusing, so I looked on a few other sites and each of them said that she first was a student of Abbey's mother, and then Abbey opened up a studio with her own name, and Kelley was enrolled there. It sounded like Kelley was a pre-teen or teen when she was in Abbey's class. Who knows...maybe they got it wrong, too.
ALM apparently taught dance at age 14, she once said on the show. She also stated she opened a studio then but that probably had something to do with her mother's? There was also some story about Kelly Hyland 'stealing' the boy Abby liked so I guess they are close in age.....I think Abby is 49 or 50.Kelly is in her 40s.
I used to love watching Trading Spaces, but I just couldn't handle it anymore when the designers did what they wanted instead of what the homeowners were looking for. Hildi was the worst. I remember watching a show where she wanted to do one thing in a home and the neighbors stood up to her and said no, that is not something the family would like. They fought Hildi on this and won. Then Hildi acted like an impetulant child, she refused to help them. She told the neighbors that they better have a plan and design because that's the big part of redoing a room. Well, the neighbors worked hard, Hildi complained, and at the reveal the family loved their new living room. I remember Hildi stating before the room that she wasn't happy because "that's not my room", that's not what she wanted done. I thought to myself, you arrogant B@!#%!! Of course it's not your room, it's their room in their home! It should be their desires. After that, I stopped watching.
As far as Dance Moms, I don't understand how this show has been on as long as it has. I do not watch it because my first couple times just ticked me off so much. My thoughts were not only what is wrong with Abbey, but what the hell is wrong with the parents that ALLOW their children to be treated like this???? I just don't understand it and these parents, like Kate, should be hung out to dry for putting their children through this just for their own (the parents) need for fame and money. How sad and abusive to use children in this way.
In comment 160, I meant to reference #147...
Formerly Duped said... 161
OT: Brooke Shields has written a new book called There Was a Little Girl, about her relationship with her mom, the infamous stage mother Teri Shields. It is the story of how Brooke was the breadwinner as a model and actress, and also tended to her divorced mother's emotional needs, and dealt with her mom's drinking problem.
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How Brooke has kept her feet planted on terra firma is an uncommon story in today's culture.
Brooke was the IT girl and so beautiful, she could have had anything on Earth that she wanted, but somehow, after the apex of her insane modeling career, she seems so normal.
Kathy Griffin has this schtick about Brooke's wedding, and although it takes digs at Brooke's mom, Kathy's recounting of her experience that day is both funny, and touching.
The story encapsulates what it must have been like for Brooke to deal with Teri, her narcissism and alcoholism.
Teri was one hell of a piece of work.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 162
Do you think Amanda has schizophrenia? It often starts to show itself and get very bad in one's early 20s. This seems like a recent thing.
October 11, 2014 at 12:13 PM
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IIRC, this has been going on, at least publicly, for about a year or more.
Amanda was wandering the streets of L.A. and NYC for quite some time before her hospitalization.
As far as Dance Moms, I don't understand how this show has been on as long as it has. I do not watch it because my first couple times just ticked me off so much. My thoughts were not only what is wrong with Abbey, but what the hell is wrong with the parents that ALLOW their children to be treated like this????
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McKees Rocks moms who got their sights set on Fox Chapel.
Nothing wrong with that, when you're not using your children to get there.
If I recall, when Amanda Bynes was hospitalized the first time she was diagnosed as schizophrenic. Her parents got conservatorship of her, the hospital put her on meds and she was doing better. When she was released to her parents, she started fashion design school. Apparently she felt she was well and stopped her meds. She is now back to square one. Mental health is finally being addressed for the illness that it is. I hope she finds herself and can get well.
Amazing the person who helped to get her back to LA and in the hospital was Sam Lutfi, one of Britney Spears' former managers.
Sam Lutfi was a notorious "manager" for Brittany Spears. Her father got rid of him rather quickly because of certain alleged conduct when he was around Brittany..
Speaking of the not-a-boob-job. I remember two photos in particular where the girls were displayed in all their glory. One was in a pink and black top or sundress on a trip somewhere. Those things were so engorged that I thought a farmer was there waiting for her to milk them. They were huge. The other photo was in a parking lot, at Target, shopping somewhere and she was wearing a light purple tank top. She was a hair's breath away from having a fully exposed nipple. I don't recall if the the kids were with here, but if they were, my gosh, what an embarrassment it must have been for them
How could the fans compare those with the photo of Kate on her wedding day, the two flat pancakes, and say that she didn't udder (pun intended) a blatant lie on national television when she said she just got a good bra? Has anyone ever tweeted Milo and the half dozen sheeple comparison photos? Do they just ignore it and believe everything that comes out of Kate's mouth?
When Kate had the tummy tuck she also asked Dr. Glassman for a breast augmentation because she felt they were sagging. He said no, all she needed was a good bra. Hence the term she uses, "it's just a good bra".
Yes, Tucker's Mom, Anon/Leslie, I have been on the veranda since a little blue birdie that moos down by the river got buckshot on it's paint me blue behind.
Has anyone ever tweeted Milo and the half dozen sheeple comparison photos?
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No idea, but they'd rationalize it somehow.
Do they just ignore it and believe everything that comes out of Kate's mouth?
By definition of a sheeple, yes.
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McKees Rocks moms who got their sights set on Fox Chapel. 169
Would you explain what this means, please? They are both towns in PA........
Amanda was wandering the streets of L.A. and NYC for quite some time before her hospitalization. 168
While I agree that she is troubled, in my state she would have to present an imminent danger to.self or others to be committed involuntarily.
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Do you think Amanda has schizophrenia?
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I think she suffers from paranoid schizophrenia
Mental health is finally being addressed for the illness that it is.
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It's way too easy to slip through the cracks of the woefully underfunded mental health system unless you're in Amanda Bynes tax bracket. Her situation may raise awareness temporarily but as this pattern normally goes, once the story fades, so too does the public interest and response for more resources.
While I agree that she is troubled, in my state she would have to present an imminent danger to.self or others to be committed involuntarily.
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That's the sad part. When I saw she was wandering aimlessly about the streets of NYC with a tiny puppy, it made me cringe.
redbirdsings said... 174
Yes, Tucker's Mom, Anon/Leslie, I have been on the veranda since a little blue birdie that moos down by the river got buckshot on it's paint me blue behind.
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ha! Strangely enough, I understood that redbird :0)
Speaking of MIA's, where has our chef disappeared to?
Hope you're okay, Chefsummer.
Millicent...126
The southern lady on Trading Spaces was Laurie Smith. I always thought she did a good job on her rooms. Besides Vern, another designer who the homeowners didn't need to worry about was Genevieve Gorder. Luckily, you can now watch her on HGTV. She just did a show on HGTV where she renovated her Brooklyn home. She bought the space next door, combined it with her present home, broke through the wall and renovated the two spaces into a large home/work space for her and her daughter. It came out beautiful.
Ingrid...144 Doug did that makeover and the pictures on the wall of the foot was his foot.
Sonia @jazzme07 32m32 minutes ago
@Kateplusmy8 will you be doing a teen age clothing line. I loved your clothing line you had when the children were young.
LOL!! Whatever happened with that thing? Was it Walmart or K Mart? It was very short-lived and I thought I remember it being dumped overseas somewhere. Was the reason for its demise ever reported?
I'm sure she wants to get right on a teenage clothing line!
(172) "Speaking of the not-a-boob-job. I remember two photos in particular where the girls were displayed in all their glory. One was in a pink and black top or sundress on a trip somewhere"
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I remember that top or dress. It was a side shot from the right, I believe. Her cup was more than running over, and somewhat sagging, if I recall...but enormous. You just knew that they weren't real. I remember a video of her in the dentist's office when she was wearing a gray sweater vest. She turned sideways, and I swear, there was absolutely nothing there, not even a bad bra. She was totally flat -- "boy flat."
I've never watched Dance Moms. Is it filmed in PA, or do they travel to competitions outside of the state? I was reading the complaint and it mentions violations of PA Child Labor Laws. Those laws would apply only when filming in PA; when traveling, or filming in other states, the laws of those states would apply.
If it's filmed in PA, then the "new" labor laws would apply, but prior to the passing of that legislation, I would imagine that they would have been home free regarding the laws, but they would have needed work permits. I wonder if the Department of Labor ever checked into this, or did they just let it slide, as they did the Kate's show?
Over In TFW's County said... 185
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It would be very interesting if the issue of child labor law compliance was investigated as they relate to filming children for Dance Moms.
I seem to remember that at least initially, Jon and Kate's contract specified that they were responsible for getting work permits.
I believe that they never complied, but got a slap on the wrist.
After the passing of the newer (Murt) legislation, which is fairly recent, I would think that Lifetime would cover their asses when it comes to compliance.
But, I wonder if Lifetimes also tasks the parents with securing work permits for their individual kids.
It really should be looked into.
There is a picture of kate when they arrived at OTBX and she had a blue flowery low cut tank top on and they were BUSTING OUT! I am going to try to find it. She is stopped on a bridge and she has her arm on the rail, with her head tilted back smiling really big. I think this is when the kids put pudding all over the walls.
Found it! Scroll down it is on the right. Put your Zoom on 300% to make the very small picture larger. Hate it that a girl tup is in the pic!
Does she even look that large now?
Here is the link:
http://gosselinfamilyfansite.blogspot.com/2010/09/kate-8-take-bald-head-island-all-new.html
OT- Anyone watching Gracepoint (Fox)? It's the U.S. remake of Broadchurch.
Anna Gun plays the lead female detective, and interestingly, the same U.K. actor who played the lead male detective in Broadchurch reprises the role.
Although the series starts the same, it's a different ending.
Over In TFW's County said... 185
I've never watched Dance Moms. Is it filmed in PA, or do they travel to competitions outside of the state? I was reading the complaint and it mentions violations of PA Child Labor Laws. Those laws would apply only when filming in PA; when traveling, or filming in other states, the laws of those states would apply.
If it's filmed in PA, then the "new" labor laws would apply, but prior to the passing of that legislation, I would imagine that they would have been home free regarding the laws, but they would have needed work permits. I wonder if the Department of Labor ever checked into this, or did they just let it slide, as they did the Kate's show?
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It's been a long time since I watched it ... The treatment of the girls was getting SO bad, I just couldn't take it. (And I really enjoyed the girls' dancing in the beginning. Never thought I'd stop watching it.)
Unless the format has changed, typically the girls get their assignments at the PA dance studio and then practice and prepare, also in PA. The second part of the show is the girls performing at competitions (some events completely faked) and most often, out of state.
Quite a long time ago, I came across an article where one of the kids or parents talked about the horrific hours the girls worked for a small amount of usable footage. I think Admin did a post on it. Realizing how hard those girls were working was the beginning of my disenchantment with that show.
foxy @ 171
A LOT of people are wondering about Sam's role and why he's around. Him being around Amanda is a big red flag to me. I just hope he's not trying to take advantage of her.
@Amber_Ryland: CALL TO ACTION: Stop reporting on and exploiting @amandabynes. She's ill and needs help. Not publicity.
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She does seem to have a conscience too bad it wasn't about the exploitation of the G8.
(187) "Found it! Scroll down it is on the right. Put your Zoom on 300% to make the very small picture larger. Hate it that a girl tup is in the pic!"
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Yep. That's the one. Those are not the same boobs that were in her wedding dress, and if the sheeple say it's just a good bra, they are in even more denial than I thought they were.
I don't think that anyone cares if she got them inflated, or had a half dozen implants, each one bigger than the rest. Just be honest about it and quit the darn lying.
NJGal51 said... 192
@Amber_Ryland: CALL TO ACTION: Stop reporting on and exploiting @amandabynes. She's ill and needs help. Not publicity.
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She does seem to have a conscience too bad it wasn't about the exploitation of the G8.
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Amber's concern would seem more genuine if ROL hasn't published fine (5) pieces on Amanda on Oct 10 alone. Even if Amber isn't at ROL any more, that's just the kind of thing they've always done.
Very OT. Heard the word "spores" tonite & it triggered a memory of a book I read as a teen in the 70's. Something about a girl going through her dad's (mom's?) lab & accidentally releasing spores. I know that there are a lot of voracious readers here on the blog & I was hoping someone would also have a memory of that book...It's on the edge of my brain, but I just can't remember enough to search & find it. Sound familiar to anyone?
I remember Kathy talking about Brooke at least a few times and poor Brooke's crazzzzy mother. Kathy has this way about explaining that situation that you can just picture Brooke saying thanks for helping me laugh about this because that's better than crying.
Based on some of the roles Brooke took on as a kid you just know somebody with no rational view of child protection was driving that train.
Abby lee Miller has been a child coach for dancing for years. Reality Tv found this and found a new show. The parents allow their kids to be trained here because they want fame. Sorry to say ,but Abby makes stars. Her kids make it to broadway and get in videos and get asked to come on talk shows. This isn't just " bring you'r kid to my class for fun" Abby is tough...just like olympic coaches ...this isn't a hobby...its a career with a goal. Tell me that an olympic coach would say...Oh it's ok we'll gettum next time. The kid's are trained hard. I don't agree with everything Abby does...but if I really thought my kid had the talent, I'd let her be in it to win in it....When and if my child had enough...I'd take her out.
This is not a dance camp...this is not an after school activity...this is not a class to make friends or learn how to socialize...This is a job..a career for the future. I do believe Abby had to step up her meanness for ratings...the moms sure did.
It's been a long time since I've commented but just had to add that my house burned down, and among the swarm of disaster contractors who suddenly appeared was someone wanting to film for a show. They would provide a designer. I thought of Trading Spaces and all those shows and did not respond to them. They'd probably screw up the insurance company paying. Plus I was and am still shell-shocked and can't deal with daily life very well.
It's just me 191......It has been reported that Amanda Byne's parents are trying to distance Sam Lutfi from Amanda. If I remember correctly he tried suing Britney Spears for millions of dollars after her father banned him from seeing her. I don't know this person, but to me he looks like slime. He may have had an ulterior motive for helping to get Amanda back to LA for medical help.
I believe Brooke and her mother were estranged foe a while when she was an adult but reconciled. Brooke looked after her mom when she developed Alzheimer's (or similar) and was institutionalized. Some pap took her out for lunch against the rules and interviewed her. Brooke was furious and rightfully so. She must have a heart of gold to forgive her mother for having her play child prostitutes and pose naked as an under-age model.I think going away to university was the best thing she did for herself, to get loose of the iron grip Teri had on her.(Same would probably be true for the G kids)
I don't think Brooke is the best actress in the world, but she seems to be a good person and a great mother.
I don't think even a coach who is working with Olympians needs to be cruel and mean. You can train someone to be the best of the best while still being respectful of them.
Admin @199. True. But there are many who are not.I read gymnast Dominique Moceanu's autobiography and other gymnasts agree with her that Bela Karolyi trained his winners using verbal abuse, isolating them from their families, insulting them, forcing them to diet and to work through injuries, even fractures. Keri Strug who performed with her broken foot at the Olympics was one example.
Star22 said... 197
Abby lee Miller has been a child coach for dancing for years.
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These girls are all under 14 years old. There is a huge difference between a tough coach and an abusive one. Abby is an abusive coach. In the last episode, she was making fun of Chloe's eye. (There were online accounts of this from other studios, edited out for tv) That's why she finally decided to leave. A good coach treats and trains younger athletes differently than older ones. A tough coach may be hard on their athletes but they also encourage them and treat them all as members of the team. Abby does not do this.
I find it ironic that ALM has a new show turning around failing dance studios. Before Lifetime came knocking, ALM's studio was in bankruptcy. She keeps telling everyone what a great teacher she is and how in demand, yet her own studio was failing! The money from the show saved her studio. She is truly a hypocrite!
I do believe Abby had to step up her meanness for ratings...the moms sure did.
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This isn't scripted tv with actors. These are real kids who don't have the insight, maturity or even fully developed brains to deal with Abbey's maliciousness.
They don't punch out at the end of the day and shake off their character and go home.
I don't think these talented kids become successful dancers because of Abbey, rather, I think they do in spite of her.
Worse yet, they go into the world believing that being uncivil, selfish, ill-mannered, with a 'second place is first loser" mentality is a viable strategy to be happy and successful in life.
Really successful, happy people, who are leaders know that the Golden Rule comes first.
I'm sorry, but there's no justification in the world for Abbey and her antics, and it's sickening that society rewards people like her.
Even worse, that parents will overlook the damage being done to their children because Abbey produces "winners".
I have a very different notion of success.
Talking about ALM's teaching tactics, I remembered Bela Karolyi, the Olympic gymnastics coach and how he was said to treat his girls. I went to Wikipedia and was aghast. He and his wife, animals. Go to the section of controversy.
Lynne in RI said...193
Yes, that is the one I have been thinking about and was trying to find the other day to post. I could not find it! It is just strange when I read yesterday about someone posting, describing about it, sorry, I can't remember who and I posted that I was going to go find it, and I immediately find it. hahaha
I've never watched "Dance Moms," and have no desire to, but if there
is manufactured drama, then that is terrible for kids to be exposed to.
They're not old enough to be "in on" the joke. This teacher and the
parents might be told to let their freak flags fly, but the kids who are
in the middle are not old enough to comprehend what's going on.
I'm sure they take every minute seriously. I don't care if someone
thinks hrt daughter is "14 going on 40," or whatever nonsense
some of these parents spew to get their kids on the fast track to
stardom. And as Tucker's Mom said (#4), these children can't
leave their "characters" behind when they walk away from the set.
Border Collie, so sorry to hear about your house fire. I hope you can get it all resolved and get your life back on track asap. Good luck to you. I'm not sure if having cameras around would help or hinder your healing. Reality T.V. isn't always a bad thing.
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Border Collie, so sorry about your house! Hope things are on the road to recovery.
I don't see many successful B'Way dancers crowing from the rooftops that they owe it all to Abby. Why aren't they coming forward to defend Abby and her teaching methods? Abby does seem to produce a lot of Disney dancers.
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Border Collie, this is LB. I am so sorry about your house! I am praying for you! Your right about the filming may mess up your insurance paying for your house, if the filming provided any renovation, designer you would be liable for the income tax on their services.
I remember years ago, I wanted to enter a contest for a chance to meet Randy Travis, the country singer. You would be flown to TN, meet and eat dinner with him. But, something told me read the Rules of the Contest. I started reading and it said the value of the prizes and just the value of RT's time was 4K and it was taxable!
I didn't want to be responsible for the taxes, so I didn't enter. I wonder if he got to write off the 4K off on his income taxes, for his generous time.
Border Collie said... 198
It's been a long time since I've commented but just had to add that my house burned down, and among the swarm of disaster contractors who suddenly appeared was someone wanting to film for a show. They would provide a designer. I thought of Trading Spaces and all those shows and did not respond to them. They'd probably screw up the insurance company paying. Plus I was and am still shell-shocked and can't deal with daily life very well.
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OMG, I am so sorry about your house. I can't even begin to imagine how shell shocked you are. The loss is incomprehensible, and I hope everyone is safe.
Please keep in touch.
Plus I was and am still shell-shocked and can't deal with daily life very well. 198
Border Collie, you are in my thoughts and prayers. Whatever decisions you make, I hope they turn out well.
The kid's are trained hard. I don't agree with everything Abby does...but if I really thought my kid had the talent, I'd let her be in it to win in it........When and if my child had enough...I'd take her out.
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I don't care how much talent my child had, or how good she or he was at dancing, Olympics, or whatever, if I took a good look at how this woman ran her studio, and the abuse, both physical and mental, went on there, you couldn't pay me enough money to put my child in that class. I wouldn't want my child around that kind of person. What a roll model! There's a big difference between training hard and getting kids to win by shaming them, pinching them, and mocking them. This teacher obviously doesn't know the difference. I watched the video of she and Kelley going at it. The look in her eyes was scary, especially when she went after Kelley's fingers with her teeth. That's the kind of person you want teaching your kids? Why? Because they win? Good grief.
What a price to pay for producing a winning dancer...allowing emotional abuse, a knock-down of self esteem, physical mocking, and whatever else comes with it is not success. How much is too much? If the child has had enough of it and removes herself from that situation, the damage most likely would have been done, and who knows if it EVER can be undone? Is it all really worth it? For my child and me, the answer would be absolutely not.
OT. I learned that the best friend (age 13) of my friend's 13 y.o. daughter (allegedly) wrote a "25 chapter book about sex." (no other details available about said book) except that whatever she wrote was on her own time, her own iPad but on a public forum.
The girl has been placed on in school suspension at another school for 30 days.
Of course this news is all over school. How accurate it is is questionable of course. However, I think there must have been better ways to handle it.
Watch Kim of Queens. Kim is a pageant coach that teaches w/kindness & encouragement. Kim finds that innate uniqueness in the young ladies. How refreshing that the young ladies develop Confidence. Same channel as ALMDC.
sarah @gypsi001 3h3 hours ago
@Kateplusmy8 Scrubbed every inch of the fridge in our new house yest. Ugggh. Remembered ur episode cleaning ur new place. Haha.. ☺️☺️
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Um, Gypsi, I'm not so sure that Kate would like to be reminded about that little fiasco when she vilified the former owners on national television. From what I understand they really weren't pleased when she claimed how filthy they left the house.
Border Collie said... 198
It's been a long time since I've commented but just had to add that my house burned down, and among the swarm of disaster contractors who suddenly appeared was someone wanting to film for a show. They would provide a designer. I thought of Trading Spaces and all those shows and did not respond to them. They'd probably screw up the insurance company paying. Plus I was and am still shell-shocked and can't deal with daily life very well.
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I am so sorry to hear about your home! So, so sorry. Hang in there, Border Collie. It may not seem so at the moment, but these difficult times will pass. I wish you strength.
(14) The look in her eyes was scary, especially when she went after Kelley's fingers with her teeth. That's the kind of person you want teaching your kids?
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Yes, and we teach our kids that bullying is wrong, and then parents would throw their children under the control of a person such as this. What a conflicting message about bullying this conveys to our children, all under the guise of "hard work" and winning?
Border Collie: Best wishes for recovery of your losses. I hope no one was injured, Still, what a devastating thing to happen. I'm sure there are many hassles to overcome as well as loss of important and / or sentimental items to deal with.
Border Collie, I am so sorry you are going through that. I hope you have some support from family or friends to help you through this.
With things like Dance Moms, it doesn't matter how talented your kid is, you need to know your child. A few children will thrive under someone like ALM who harps at them constantly. Most children need a combination of challenging and nurturing from their teachers to be stars. There are ways to challenge and keep kids focused without being abusive. The best teachers/coaches find that balance. And good teachers know not to treat each child exactly the same.
I find it awful that anyone admires ALM and that she can get rich from abusing young children. There is plenty of room for blame among the parents too. But I bet many dancers on Broadway or in famous dance companies were not abused and are still good dancers.
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