A few photos have already been posted from today's yard sale:
Twitter user @followme4mybday:
WHEN: OCTOBER 25th SATURDAY
TIME: 7am-2pm
WHERE: St. JOHNS UNITED CHURCH OF CHRIST
591 N. CHURCH ROAD WERNERSVILLE 19565
The Gosselins will be there selling their unwanted/no longer needed items clogging up their house. Clothing, toys, books appliances, car/booster seats, furniture and MORE!
A portion of the proceeds will be donated to the Local Animal Rescue League. Tune in Monday Morning. Kate Gosselin is back with Jackie & Scott 8am.
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I agree with others saying she does not have a death grip on the girl's arm in that pic, no physical abuse going on there, on that day. What I DO believe is that someone who does hit, smack, punish, deprive, abuse etc. (her own words people, remember? red spoon, grabbing a toddler by the hair, afraid she could really hurt him?) CONTINUES to do so. I believe the threat is there, the kids know it and she manhandles them regularly. She has no boundaries and no restraint.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v60xIr51mOQ
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http://www.thestar.com/entertainment/television/2014/10/25/turning_off_the_cameras_is_the_bigger_boo_boo_menon.html
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Yes, great article
Tucker's Mom - I think the reason that TLC swept the whole Blankenship thing under the rug is because, even though it was indirectly, he worked for them. June's boyfriend does not work for them.
AnnieD - Thanks for the link to that article. If I had more information about the Blankenship thing I'd send it to the author. Maybe he could do a follow up.
TLC needs to watch out if they are trying to remake TFW. Boring/normal doesn't sell. Case in point is Table For 12. People want to see the kids fight and carry on so they can point at them and say "thank God my kids don't act like that" and they want to see TFW melt down.
Was shocked to see a recent comment of mine reposted to the comments thread of a popular tabloid's website. Word for word, attributed to someone else.
Creepy. And perhaps for some (Including me) a cautionary tale.
I have to admit I gave a knee jerk reaction to the photo. Who knows what was happening. It's the history. ..I would probably have the same reaction seeing Bernie Madoff pick up someone's dropped
checkbook.
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That's exactly it. It's WHO is grabbing the arm. those kids don't ever get a chance or opportunity to rebel or contradict her, she rules with an iron fist.
That little "innocent" arm grab is all she needs, or all she's willing to do knowing there are cameras on her.
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Agree with all of your points.
I don't like Kate's choice of hair style, but she's never had a sense of real style.
But, that's her choice and I guess she thinks she looks good in long, straight, hanging hair that pulls her face down.
This is very common among women in their 40's and 50's. Look at any Real Housewives show and you'll see ridiculous hair extensions. These women think that having too-long hair makes them youthful, but it just looks bad, especially on Kate.
Kate's costuming looks like what I think is her default wardrobe. I think she prefers comfy clothes and shoes vs. the look she wore during the faux corn maze episode- tight, tight jeans, spiky boots.
Eh, whatever. She rarely looks put together correctly to me. To have a full blow out yet not take 5 minutes to put your face on isn't a choice I'd make. It takes me 10 minutes to get a passable face on, where I don't look like death warmed over.
We have no idea why Kate is grabbing one of the girl's arms. My guess is that Kate was telling her to stop playing, or don't even think about playing or visiting with Jon while she's got a job to do, plus they were filming.
I think she didn't want Jon to become part of the episode.
Kate and Steve must have known it was extremely possible for Jon to show up. If Kate were smart, and I don't think she is, she would have called Jon and talked about him visiting the kids at the sale.
I know Kate will act all put out, and like Jon ruined something by showing up, and will go on and on about how hard she has it,what with Jon showing up willy nilly and rocking the boat, and look at what all she has to deal with, blah, blah, blah.
Vanessa said... 186
The jacket? How many times have we seen her in the middle of winter with no coat, open toe shoes etc.? She's just strange in that dept is all. She got cold and borrowed someone's jacket
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Kate is sartorially challenged, and that's all there is to it.
She rarely hits the mark.
A women needs a man with real intentions. Not a boy who can't pay attention. ~ EpicWomen Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · Oct 24
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Here's a platitude for ya. There's nothing worse than a passive aggressive woman.
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There are two BBB. One is the old one which Kate re-gifted to Jon and one is the new Mercedes.
Someone who may not have realized there are two BBB might have just assumed that was Kate's vehicle the kids were getting into.
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Hmm... since Jon drove the BBB to the sale, I wonder if his being there was him picking them up to have visit time with them.
Maybe he and Kate worked something out so that they could film, but still get time with Jon.
There have been numerous threats against her and the kids. Twitter is full of them.
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I don't think the threats are "numerous." The fact that somebody might be saying nasty things about her or the family doesn't constitute a "threat." There are crazies going off on twitter about everyone though. By that logic, I should start paying a bodyguard, since I've been gone off on.
I don't believe the family is in danger. I think the bodyguard is about ego, not protection.
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Maybe he and Kate worked something out so that they could film, but still get time with Jon.
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If so, it sounds like the first sign we've ever seen of actual co-parenting.
The kids are 10 and 13. Maybe they ASKED Jon if they could attend the sale and then see you after, and maybe he said sure if that's what you want, and Dad will come too and pick you up later.
The one thing my narcissist did right was that she did welcome her children's father to participate fully at the children's events. He would even sit with us, the ex and the new husband together. I really liked him, he found religion and was so dedicated to God and his church and a real changed man, and his new wife is just a doll. You could see how happy it made their mutual kids to see everybody get along. Heck, I was happy too. Nobody wants discord. Small compromises and concessions can mean the world to kids caught in a divorce.
This is why TLC’s decision to cancel it seems less like an act of child protection and more like an act of child abandonment. If the network is worried a convicted sex offender might prey upon one of these remarkable children, why is it leaving them alone? Wouldn’t the presence of crews and, more importantly, cameras be of some benefit? And now that Mama June has split with Honey Boo Boo’s father, a grown man who answers to Sugar Bear, isn’t it morally reprehensible to cut off her TV income? This is a woman who can’t feed her family without manic couponing and the occasional road kill.
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True dat!!
Funny how they fought so very hard to keep the illusion that all was well with the gosselin marriage. Then when Jon decided he wanted out, they fought even harder to bury him.
TLC has but one purpose and mission, to exploit whomever and whatever. Age, gender, social status, disabilities, mental illness, addiction etc, means nothing. And in the end, any semblance of concern or beatitude is as fake as tfw boobies
Here's a platitude for ya. There's nothing worse than a passive aggressive woman.
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Or how about
A person can only kiss so much a@@ before they choke on sh*t
By the look of the piles of stuff at that sale Kate is not the organized person she claims to be. A lot of it should have been garbaged out whenever she brought garbage in. That's what an organized person does to keep their house in order. We know very well she came up with this yard sale idea because that is how she rolls. She is too lazy to do it herself so she got the production assistants to do all the work and she got all the credit. Nothing new there. Her job was stand there at the meet and greet and smile like a heehaw jackass all the way through it. She also managed to come out on top with a remodel somewhere in the McMansion.
She's been a shrew to the people of her community for years and this is how she thought she'd win back their affection. Apparently a lot of people bought the act. I think the truth of the matter is she failed at becoming the great hollywood celebrity she's always wanted to be, so she's probably made up her mind if she's going to keep shilling her kids, she has to stick around PA and pretend to once again a part of the common folk. It's the new and improved brand of Kate.
She's a savvy narcissist who is very adept at manipulating people and situations to suit her needs. I am not convinced she has changed one bit from the miserable harridan she's shown herself to be over and over again just because she got TLC to film a lousy yard sale.
Geez, Honey Boo Boo show has always been the worst type of exploitation of a white trash family. That mother won't have a penny in a year because this new ex-con boyfriend is sniffing around for her money. Let's get real here. June is a gross, overweight, hillbilly with no sex appeal. This guy is turned on by young girls but he knows how to play June. TLC is responsible if anything bad happens because they put the family out there. They are also responsible for creating and promoting the devil that is Kate Gosselin. They think they can walk away, but the drumbeat of bad publicity may finally drag them into gutter they created. I sure hope so.
I would not have put it past Kate to insist that Jon show up at the yard sale to pick up the kids knowing full well there would be paps there. We all know he is not allowed on the McMansion property. If someone saw the kids board the BBB, did all the tups go with him? Cara and Mady? I doubt those two would. Cara definitely wants to hide in a hole and Mady is Mama's girl.
Thanks for clarifying the tax/donation thing. All I know is that my husband always says our donations don't bring down our taxes much, but we love to donate anyway. Always have, always will. That's what gets to me about Kate who received such generosity and has failed to pass it on. Totally selfish. I would live to know what the check was to the Animal League. Wonder if TLC was really the giver and Kate pocketed the cash. I bet that was the case, just like Celebrity Apprentice where the production company writes out the check to the charity.
I took a look at Milo's TL.
One of Kate's fans, @grisel1018, had a birthday on Saturday. She tweeted Kate 5 times stating it was her birthday. She also tweets Kate regularly asking how she is and says that it's been a long time since Kate has responded to her.
So who pops in to apologize for Kate? Milo, defender of all things Kate.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 13h13 hours ago
@grisel1018 Hey there! Sorry Kate didn't catch ur BD yesterday...she's been running at light speed lately! U have 2keep after her! :)
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 13h13 hours ago
@grisel1018 U picked the worst time 4BD! LOL Next week try again & "guilt her" for 4getting you! HaHa Glad 2hear ur doing so good!
So now Milo feels it's her duty to be Kate's apologist, too? I noticed though that Milo herself never wished the fan a HB.
Milo also tweeted Paige to ignore the haters, using a platitude that could really apply to her. Perhaps, that's why Kate ignores her:
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · Oct 24
SILENCE is the best reply to a fool. ~ Imam Ali >> Remember that @Paige_Kate8fan Ignore #ImaLiar10
Heehaw jackass
Bwahahaha! That was a real lol!
I have to find a way to use that one!
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Agree to disagree at this point. I do not see Jon showing up at this as "supporting" filming, nor do I think it's confusing for children at this age. I see it as wanting to spend time with his children, nothing more nothing less. Sometimes things just are what they are.
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I have to agree with you on this. I think Jon chose to show up for a "public" yard sale to spend time with his kids - period. Good for him. Whether TFW or TLC liked it or not is irrelevant if it was his custody time. Good that he got time to spend with his kids and did nothing to make a scene. His retort to Steve does not bother me at all. It should be mother and father conversing on these matters, not Steve.
I DO like that the kids were not required to pose for pictures. They did not sign up for this, TFW did, and so her not allowing kid pictures with locals was not a bad thing. I am glad that she decided to donate the full amount to the animal shelter, whether it is a tax write off or not. She should have done this in the first place as a "give back" to others. Regardless, it is a good thing; just hope all of the cash actually goes to the animal shelter : )
Not trying to be passive aggressive, but when either TFW or Jon do good things, try to be positive about it. Likewise, when they do stupid things (IMO),I comment as I believe both of them need to do what is best for the kids, and put their egos aside.
Anyway, sounds like a was a very nice day for all of the kids.
AuntieAnn@16: Well said: ' It's the new and improved brand of Kate.' I agree with you 100%. It's very sad for the kids and it makes me and countless others angry. How does this woman always land on her feet? I don't understand how so many people seem to have bought this new softer, gentler common-folk Kate.I don't really know what is going on with Jon either.But at least he seems to have seen all 8 kids this time. I'm just angry at how TFW is rewarded for her cunning ways to make a buck and all the abuse described in RH's book and elsewhere seems to have been forgotten by some. The donation to animal rescue is another trick that is fooling some..
My take on the pics:
1. if you look closely that tup, looks as if she was doing something she was not suppose to have been doing, she is not crying or upset. To me it looks like she has something in her hand, that possibly Kate was going to take away from her.
2. any pic can be misinterpret, depends on when it was taken and by who, and by which order they are published. So an angry looking pic of Kate does not mean she was angry cause Jon showed up.
Paps and TLC might rearrange pics for drama and story, when maybe there is no drama or story.
3. the media is taking pics out of context, and making up crap. They were not there, only the paps, who probably took pics at a distance, so they do not know what was said or happened. They are assuming. Unless they were there like a few people here, who were and witness what was said, the media is making this up. Cause , from one report here the paps were not allowed in the yard sale, they were kept at a distance.
We all can believe what we want. I only believe the people who were there, as I said pics can be taken out of order, inwhich they were taken and published, to make it appear that Kate was upset that Jon showed up. And what ever the tup was doing, Kate was not mad, it looks to me that the tup has a remote or phone in her hand and Kate was taking it away from her. There is another pic of that tup without anything in her hands, with Jon. JMO
If you blow up the death grip photos, you can see Kate's weave. Her natural hair looks to be about 5-6 inches long. Lol
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AuntieAnn@16: Well said: ' It's the new and improved brand of Kate.' I agree with you 100%. It's very sad for the kids and it makes me and countless others angry. How does this woman always land on her feet? I don't understand how so many people seem to have bought this new softer, gentler common-folk Kate.
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Thanks Formerly. I don't know how she gets away with it but she does. My dad used to say some people can fall into a hole in the outhouse and crawl out smelling like a rose. That's Kate.
As for this 'no pics of the kids' thing, I agree they shouldn't have to stand and pose with strangers. It's just so hypocritical of her to sell their faces to TLC cameras for ten years, put their images on magazine covers, easily find pictures of them all over the internet, and then turn around ask people not to take photos of them when she's groomed them FOR the camera lens all their lives. Please. Don't at this point of the game pretend you're a protective mother goose who cares about the safety and privacy of your brood. She didn't even know who Bill Blankinship was for crying out loud. She didn't care then and she doesn't care now. It's all part of the new act.
Vanessa, lol. She always reminds me of a donkey when she smiles.
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3. the media is taking pics out of context, and making up crap. They were not there, only the paps, who probably took pics at a distance, so they do not know what was said or happened. They are assuming.
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I agree. There is no way to tell from those pictures that Kate was angry because Jon showed up. It seems far more believable that Kate knew in advance that Jon would be there. Had he just shown up with no advance warning, she would not have been able to contain her anger/annoyance. Since it was his custody time, and she needed the children for filming, it served her purposes to allow him to be there.
http://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/report-mama-june-s-children-always-took-a-backseat-to-child-molester-boyfriend-says-sugar-bear-44860
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Someone posted here that they thought the original story about SB cheating was a plant by TLC. Would not surprise me in the least.
Probably thought it would steer the story in another direction or distract/deflect. They've wiped their hands I guess because child sexual abuse is where they draw the line!! a**holes!
The fact that tfw was your all American mom, good looking, middle class etc is why they tried a little harder to keep milking their cash cow. I guess they're not going to fight so hard with this one
OT- We share a lot about our favorite tv shows and streaming here, so I thought I'd share that Amazon has their Fire Stick on sale for 2 days, reduced $20 from $39 to $19.
The voice-activated remote is an upgrade for $29.99, so if you decide to upgrade, it's like getting the voice remote for $10.
I live that you just plug it into your tv. No wires!
Baldy TFW said... 23
If you blow up the death grip photos, you can see Kate's weave. Her natural hair looks to be about 5-6 inches long. Lol
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Most times it's hard to tell Kate's weave, except for her tresses suddenly tripling in volume. But yes, I can see the separations at the top of her head, and it does look like a weave.
Just the way the hair lays looks like a weave.
Gosh, she has such nice hair. It appears she's decided to make the weave a semi-permanent thing.
Why damage your follicles when your hair is good to begin with?
Wow.
In regards to this Honey Boo Boo fiasco. I for one think that TLC was quite aware of June hanging around this child molester. You can't tell me that they weren't filming when June went house hunting with this guy right there by her side. Also when she bought the cars, they were there. All the footage they have that they were supposedly ready to air for the new season you can bet he's there. It's disgusting to me that all they care about is ratings and the all-mighty dollar even at the cost of a young girl's innocence.
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getofftwitter said... 22
3. the media is taking pics out of context, and making up crap. They were not there, only the paps, who probably took pics at a distance, so they do not know what was said or happened. They are assuming.
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I agree. There is no way to tell from those pictures that Kate was angry because Jon showed up.
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No, we don't know for sure what's going on in that photo but the nostrils are flared and the gaping maw is open so we can assume she's barking at someone, maybe Aaden. She might have been moving Alexis out of the way.
3. the media is taking pics out of context, and making up crap. They were not there, only the paps, who probably took pics at a distance, so they do not know what was said or happened. They are assuming.
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I agree. There is no way to tell from those pictures that Kate was angry because Jon showed up.
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I agree with all of this.
One thing though, no matter where when why or how, she continues to provide us with those kinds of images. She is an ugly human being-inside and out.
Vanessa said... 19
Heehaw jackass
Bwahahaha! That was a real lol!
I have to find a way to use that one!
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Hahaha! Credit AuntieAnn for another good one!
All TFW needs is a straw hat with slits so her ears can fit through, turn around and bray at the camera when it is her turn during the intro!
I also agree about the paps making stuff up to sell the photos. I thought at first that Jon just showed up, but knowing now he loaded up the kids in his BBB, it was planned. What was also planned was for the paps to be taking pictures. I do believe the exchange between Steve and Jon occurred because Kate cannot help herself to be controlling. No doubt, none, that she sent her winged monkey to prod the kids away from Jon. Jon's rebuff was totally understandable.
The one thing my narcissist did right was that she did welcome her children's father to participate fully at the children's events. He would even sit with us, the ex and the new husband together.
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Admin, it sounds like your narcissist could contain her feelings better than Kate. She has established herself as a parental alienator time and again even as late as last week's tweet about the kitten. It would nice if she could bury the hatchet with Jon for the kids' sake, but she isn't emotionally or mentally mature enough to pull it off for any length of time. Maybe for filming but beyond that, I think she's as bitter towards Jon as ever and will never reverse herself on that.
All TFW needs is a straw hat with slits so her ears can fit through, turn around and bray at the camera when it is her turn during the intro!
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Redbird, lol. Francis the talking mule.
Vanessa said... 19
Heehaw jackass
Bwahahaha! That was a real lol!
I have to find a way to use that one!
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Hahaha! Credit AuntieAnn for another good one!
All TFW needs is a straw hat with slits so her ears can fit through, turn around and bray at the camera when it is her turn during the intro!
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That one's right up there with the Shrek donkey
Yes, AuntieAnn,
her nostrils ARE flaring. So whatever sequence or context those pics get posted out there in cyberland, they are pictures of HER, her SOUL her BEING. It comes shining through time and time again.
"gaping maw"
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Ha, Auntie. That one never gets old!
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One thing though, no matter where when why or how, she continues to provide us with those kinds of images. She is an ugly human being-inside and out.
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Vanessa - Truer words were never spoken.
E! News online reports (from a source) there are no plans for Jon to appear on the episode. The yard sale will air during the Dec. special.
I think the Dec. special may be the trial balloon by TLC to see if anymore specials are worth it. It takes hours and hours of filming to produce an hour show, and they are running low on fresh ideas ( so far I've seen nothing new).
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In regards to this Honey Boo Boo fiasco. I for one think that TLC was quite aware of June hanging around this child molester. You can't tell me that they weren't filming when June went house hunting with this guy right there by her side. Also when she bought the cars, they were there. All the footage they have that they were supposedly ready to air for the new season you can bet he's there. It's disgusting to me that all they care about is ratings and the all-mighty dollar even at the cost of a young girl's innocence.
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I was thinking about the fact that Boo Boo came to TLC ithrough Toddlers and Tiaras. If there were ever an industry rife with people into child porn, child beauty pageants is right up there. I wondered how June got more than one guy to father a kid with her (shudder). Guess now I know.
The funny thing about Jon showing up at the yard sale is that she can no longer pull the "single mother I do it all alone" card. Hahaha. Or that the kids don't want to be around their father.
I wonder if Robert Hoffman still researches the Gosselins? He said in his book more details about the kids' expulsion from Kindergarten and Kate's treatment of said kids would likely be revealed soon after the book came out.He might have gone to the yard sale, as he lives nearby...
Admin said:
Agree to disagree at this point. I do not see Jon showing up at this as "supporting" filming, nor do I think it's confusing for children at this age. I see it as wanting to spend time with his children, nothing more nothing less. Sometimes things just are what they are.
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This sounds very logical to me. I think some people have a very negative feeling for Jon and they are always alert for the sound of the shoe dropping. But I just don't see him jumping onto the "film the kids" bandwagon in this instance. I believe what we saw was a practical solution to either Kate or the kids wanting to be at the rummage sale on a Saturday when Jon would normally have them. Solution: kids go to rummage sale, and Jon shows up and eventually they all leave together. It reminds me of how my son's father and I work things out when there is a conflict in schedules.
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. His retort to Steve does not bother me at all. It should be mother and father conversing on these matters, not Steve.
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I agree. Even if Kate and Steve were married and he were officially the kids' step-dad, I still don't feel it would be appropriate for him to try to tell Jon what to do. It would still remain between Jon and Kate, since they are the children's parents. If my son's father sent his wife over to try to tell me what to do in relation to my son, it would not go over well.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 13h13 hours ago
@grisel1018 U picked the worst time 4BD! LOL Next week try again & "guilt her" for 4getting you! HaHa Glad 2hear ur doing so good!
Oh Milo just shut up will you.
Vanessa said... 186
The jacket? How many times have we seen her in the middle of winter with no coat, open toe shoes etc.? She's just strange in that dept is all. She got cold and borrowed someone's jacket
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Or maybe she grabbed one off the rack of clothes for sale.
I noticed in one of the pictures that K and the kids seemed underdressed for the weather. K was in long-sleeved t-shirt or light sweater and visitors were more warmly dressed. One young girl visitor was in a hoody, all "zhooped" up, as my daughter calls it.
No doubt, none, that she sent her winged monkey to prod the kids away from Jon. Jon's rebuff was totally understandable.
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What do we actually know happened in this exchange. I missed it. What was said or seen?
Jon haters from twitter going to radaronline making up stories can not stand that Jon was with his kid yard sale.... NY_Girl@Heart • an hour ago
I saw this and totally believe it > Robert the ex tabloid reporter who turned into a certified Kate stalker,who just happens to be Jons BFF.
The one who also wrote that tabloid trash book about Kate.Robert H is the one who set it up for Jon to go to the yard sale.
They both knew TLC were filming.
Robert is the one who leaked the story that Jon was there and he is the one who had pictures taken.
They split the tabloid profits once again!
getofftwitter said... 22
My take on the pics:
2. any pic can be misinterpret, depends on when it was taken and by who, and by which order they are published. So an angry looking pic of Kate does not mean she was angry cause Jon showed up.
Paps and TLC might rearrange pics for drama and story, when maybe there is no drama or story.
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And not just pics. Apparently The Bachelor(ette) does it all the time with their voice-overs. They show someone walking down a corridor with a voice-over of them saying/thinking something bad about the person they were just talking to. Only in real life the words were spoken weeks before in a totally different context.
I noticed in one of the pictures that K and the kids seemed underdressed for the weather. K was in long-sleeved t-shirt or light sweater and visitors were more warmly dressed. One young girl visitor was in a hoody, all "zhooped" up, as my daughter calls it.
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Here's the thing. With the weather we've been having, you just don't know how to dress. Tomorrow's high is supposed to be in the mid 70s, going down to a high in the mid 40s on Saturday. Mornings are chilly, very chilly, but by afternoon it really warms up and you don't need a jacket. That said, if Kate takes them to the bus stop in the mornings, she should know that at that time of the day it's very brisk and you do need a jacket. She could check the weather report since it appears that Milo is really falling down on the job.
Speaking of Milo acting as a spokesperson for Kate (the fan's birthday). If I were Kate, this would tick me off big time. I don't know why she doesn't tell her to butt out, unless she really does know that something is off about her and she just doesn't want to upset her. Maybe Kate knows who she is, that she's just a very lonely person with no friends, and her family wants nothing to do with her. If Gladys weren't so annoying, I think I'd actually feel sorry for her because it seems that answering for Kate makes her feel important. Perhaps that's all she has in her life, and that's really sad. Then again, maybe she's shunned because she's so nosy and obnoxious and she has nobody to blame but herself.
AuntieAnn (#24), talking about how ridiculous it is for TFW to
suddenly respect her children's privacy reminded me of something.
I think it was the first episode of Tori & Dean, when they only had
little Liam. And they were having some "private" family moment --
while the cameras rolled. Suddenly, Dean noticed the paps,
and ran to chase them away. While the cameras rolled. And
the family collected a paycheck for the whole thing. Sigh.
What the heck, Peaches. Of course your past is relevant when you're a child molester. Good lord.
Vanessa said... 186
The jacket? How many times have we seen her in the middle of winter with no coat, open toe shoes etc.? She's just strange in that dept is all. She got cold and borrowed someone's jacket
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Too bad she didn't borrow a big jacket from someone in Alaska. She'd have been warm enough to join the party and scarf down a moosedog or two.
Funny when it's all about her the chilly weather doesn't bother her. But share the spotlight with someone else and "nineteen" layers and a bonfire can't begin to thaw out that ice sculpture.
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What the heck, Peaches. Of course your past is relevant when you're a child molester. Good lord.
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It most certainly is -- since I don't think anyone "recovers" from that particular twisted bent in their personality. Once a molester, always a molester. There is no way in hell I would ever take the slightest risk with my child's well-being. That means I would not even be acquaintances with a known child molester, much less would I allow that person to be around my child. Anyone who knowingly exposes any minor children to such a person is just as bad as the molester in my book.
I think that June Shannon has had a thing for this man even before he was arrested and sent to prison. I think Sugar Bear was just a place holder - someone to help with the bills, until this man got paroled. That's why Mama June didn't want to marry him in that strange ceremony they had for the show. But how dumb must a person be to think that they could hide their relationship with a convicted pedophile and continue to rake in TLC money? I hope the minor children are removed from her care, and I also hope that any remaining TLC funds are removed from her control as well. Maybe Sugar Bear can retain a decent attorney to get custody of Alanna and make sure a trust fund has been set up for her. At this point, June has been exposed as a liar and dangerously negligent mother - so her story about setting up trust funds for the children could be a pack of lies.
In the E! News article, someone commented Kate might have dressed down to get more money, looking like she was in need of help- the extra large jacket, no-make-up/hair washing etc. Hadn't thought of that- I thought she was trying to blend in! Also I was thinking the pulling on Alexis' arm was fairly innocuous but now I see Kate looks angry and is definitely giving the child a good tug. Not abuse, but asserting physical authority. Of course we don't know why she was getting her to move, but it doesn't look too much #fun or motherly to me.
SNL nailed it when it was said "convicted sex offenders are the show's key demographic". That statement could also apply to Toddlers and Tiaras.
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I wonder if Mama June had contact with MMc while he was in prison. That would be a bombshell if email, phone calls were made, or did she even visit him in prison? Because he got out in March, and it wasn't long till they were seeing each other. I feel so bad for the daughters and granddaughter.
I always wondered why Mama June didn't get her neck fixed with plastic surgery. Now I know why. She spent that money on her child's child molester a really nice car.
Wendy Williams is just coming on and the top story is HBB on the intro and they show a pic of Tori S. in her hospital bed and wow, she looks bad.
If anyone wants to see the pictures of the yard sale, just go to google images and type in kate gosselin yard sale. They are all there.
Welp. This tweet from Saturday never got a reply.
Fired Up 4 Kate
@MiloandJack
@Pumpkinbottom3 So #WhatTheDevil have you been up to? >> give me a drum roll & then a Jamie "eye roll".... :)
I guess the Botox is wearing off. She still has the lifeless forehead but there are noticeable lines between her eyebrows.
One can only hope these specials will finally be the end of filming the kids. It appears the new Pennsylvania laws are doing something to protect the kids' schooling since the filming seems to be taking place on holidays and weekends. I guess TLC figures it is better to avoid school day filming altogether rather than comply with the pesky on-set tutoring rules.
Maybe the public will ignore TFW while these air. There is going to be nothing that hasn't been seen before. Vacation trip, done that. Prepare for school, done that. House fix-up, done that. Playtime with the kids, done that. There just isn't anything abnormally interesting about their lives anymore. The kids are all old enough to pretty much take care of themselves so the harried mother shtick is going to grow old quick. Watching her kids do the exact same activities as all other kids isn't going to bring in the ratings.
Honey boo boo family subject of cps investigation finally.
Back to school for little kids is always exciting but 10 and 14 year olds, not so much. She ordered their stuff online (and tweeted about it) so what more is there to do?
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · Oct 24
SILENCE is the best reply to a fool. ~ Imam Ali >> Remember that @Paige_Kate8fan Ignore #ImaLiar10
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Having trouble reading robot letters
FlimsyFlamsy said... 50
I think it was the first episode of Tori & Dean, when they only had little Liam. And they were having some "private" family moment -- while the cameras rolled. Suddenly, Dean noticed the paps, and ran to chase them away. While the cameras rolled. And the family collected a paycheck for the whole thing. Sigh.
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I know. Do they really think people buy that line? No one who sticks their child in front of a camera to be blasted out to millions of viewers gives two hoots about who is taking their picture, pap or public people makes no difference to them.
The stars of these shows are lazy money grubbers making big bucks off their kids. End of story. The Duggars, Kate, the Dance Moms and the boo boo mother are all cut from the same cloth.
Amidst allegations that Here Comes Honey Boo Boo star Alana Thompson‘s mother, June Shannon, is dating a convicted pedophile, Mark McDaniel, RadarOnline.com has learned that Child Protective Services in Georgia have formally opened an investigation to determine if any crimes have been committed involving her three minor children.
According to an insider, Mama June has been formally notified that the Georgia Division of Family and Children Services “have opened an investigation” into her relationship with McDaniel and the nature of his interaction with her three minor children, Lauryn “Pumpkin” Shannon, 14, Jessica “Chubbs,” 17, and Alana, “Honey Boo Boo,” 8.
“Social workers will be making formal contact with all of June’s children, and any other minors that might have come into contact with Mark McDaniel. This is being taken very, very seriously by the department,” a source told Radar.
If Gladys weren't so annoying, I think I'd actually feel sorry for her because it seems that answering for Kate makes her feel important. Perhaps that's all she has in her life, and that's really sad. Then again, maybe she's shunned because she's so nosy and obnoxious and she has nobody to blame but herself.
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Yes, it's like a couple getting divorced because one is an alcoholic. Is he divorcing her because she has a drinking problem and refuses to enter rehab, or did she become an alcoholic because he was overbearing, controlling and impossible to live with? It goes round and round and round...
To put it mildly, Mama June has been playing the semantics game. She reminds me of TFW when it comes to 'explaining' herself.
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The rumor is that Tori Spelling was hospitalized for "mental exhaustion".
How ironic Mama June gets investigated by CPS in Georgia, but Kate Gosselin slides by because she was pretty, married, upper middle class and Christian, not to mention a darling of TLC and any hint of cruelty would be an embarrassment.
Apparently TLC decided the unattractive, low class, uneducated Mama June was not worth covering up for this time.
sayitisntso said... 62
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · Oct 24
SILENCE is the best reply to a fool. ~ Imam Ali >> Remember that @Paige_Kate8fan Ignore #ImaLiar10
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Advice for Gladys: It is better to stop tweeting your empty platitudes and let people think you are a fool than to tweet them and remove all doubt.
TLC stinks said... 67
The rumor is that Tori Spelling was hospitalized for "mental exhaustion".
How ironic Mama June gets investigated by CPS in Georgia, but Kate Gosselin slides by because she was pretty, married, upper middle class and Christian, not to mention a darling of TLC and any hint of cruelty would be an embarrassment.
Apparently TLC decided the unattractive, low class, uneducated Mama June was not worth covering up for this time.
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I must have missed when TLC covered up the fact that Kate was dating a man who molested her daughter.
From the looks of Kate's timeline, the yard sale story took on a life of its own. Where are TLC's publicity people? They should be spinning this yarn.
Her "just regular folks" persona is quickly #Unraveling
A comment from the Daily Mail article on Mama June: "The mother looks like a fatter version of the Gosselin woman". The comment is from a U.S. resident.
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SMH Again said... 69
I must have missed when TLC covered up the fact that Kate was dating a man who molested her daughter.
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You seem confused. TLC only covered up Kreider's abuse of her children and her animals. They also covered up the fact that their golden girl had kicked her husband to the curb but pretended to be married for the cameras. They covered up the fact that she was closing on a $1.4 million house while taking "love offerings" from church groups. Seems like you missed a lot. I'm sure I missed many things in this list. Probably because TLC covered it up.
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Ot: dancing with the stars Halloween episode is great! No spoilers, but check it online if you didn't watch. The Halloween episode is always one of my favorites!
more ot: it has been gorgeous on the outer banks of north Carolina this weekend. i've been on a news limited viewing, actually didn't watch much TV at all. Watching the ocean waves is very zen. Got stress? Go outside for a while!
You seem confused. TLC only covered up Kreider's abuse of her children and her animals. They also covered up the fact that their golden girl had kicked her husband to the curb but pretended to be married for the cameras.
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Agree. We can debate the different degrees of child abuse until the cows come home, but the bottom line is TLC was complacent in child abuse and exploitation and in some instances even encouraged it. And, they had a hand in taking sides in a contentious divorce and child custody matter, which I've always found reprehensible no matter what side they ended up on it. I have also always firmly believed if it were Jon who said he wanted to film and Kate who said no, they'd be on Jon's side quicker than scat.
They have chosen to support some bad people but not others. While it's a given no network should be giving a paycheck to someone who would put their child at risk of sexual abuse, make no mistake, the line they have drawn here is quite arbitrary. I'm not sure where their line is here. I'm not sure they know themselves. It's clear sexual abuse crosses that line as it should, but does anything else?
Quite frankly, I'm betting if they had to do it all over again they probably wouldn't have backed Kate so strongly. They got in too deep, and as the Freakenomics guys explain, once you are "in deep" it is VERY hard to reverse course. I think they thought they would wrap up that crisis neat as a pin and get out. It morphed into something much bigger than something so simple. But by that time, they were already in deep water. I am willing to bet had they known what the future held, they would have gotten out while they could.
SMH, nobody is molesting Kate's kids, just the correlation of TLC dropping Mama June like a hot potato but continues to support Gosselin who is guilty of animal and child abuse. Pedophile, child or animal abuse is all bad. For whatever reason, TLC, the mother of all that is disgusting, decided that Mama June, taking up with a sex offender, was over the top and they decided to come out as being concerned about the children. If they were always concerned about children, they would have fired Gosselin sooner. I really think the reason they pulled out from Honey Boo Boo was that advertisers threatened to walk.
By the way I wanted to add, I think Kate's saga has informed TLC about future PR messes.
Just get out when you can. Don't ask questions, don't hesitate. Which is exactly how they handled this one. That is not their usual style. They usually hang for much longer than this. This is the new order of handling a PR crisis. Just get out. They have been paying attention.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 9m 9 minutes ago
Ah @kateplusmy8 we need U 2do a #RumoxFix See the clever tabs using J&K "reunited" angle...I think not.... :) And TLC filming ur EX? Nah
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Yes, "we" need to fix it, right, Gladys? You and Kate better get on that! If I were Kate and some woman in the Deep South kept referring to my life as "our" life--I'd be so creeped out. Gladys doesn't approve of the "EX" coming back in her lover's life, lol.
Thanks so much to those who were at the yard sale and wrote about it. I enjoyed reading your takes on it!
. Pedophile, child or animal abuse is all bad
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Exactly. It's all bad. Bad behavior is bad behavior. I think when you start splitting hairs about which bad behavior is worse than others or which ones it's okay to turn the other cheek to, you start to miss the point. I don't mean to diminish the absolutely reprehensible crimes that this man did to Honey Boo Boo's aunt, however, it does not mean that other bad things that adults do to children and animals are not bad too.
No, you should not support any illegal behavior. Child abuse and animal abuse are all illegal. So is violating child labor laws, and taking money from people under false pretenses. TLC is guilty of supporting bad, even illegal behavior, and more than once.
The story reads: Jon Gosselin showed up to his ex-wife Kate Gosselin's yard sale Saturday in Pennsylvania ... which can mean only one thing ... the guy wants to get some of his old junk back.
From the Department of Unfortunate Editing, this was tweeted
Totally different meaning.....hah, hah!
Bill said... 78
The story reads: Jon Gosselin showed up to his ex-wife Kate Gosselin's yard sale Saturday in Pennsylvania ... which can mean only one thing ... the guy wants to get some of his old junk back.
From the Department of Unfortunate Editing, this was tweeted
Totally different meaning.....hah, hah!
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Bill, I'm guessing that was the last thing on Jon's mind! hahaha
Yes, "we" need to fix it, right, Gladys? You and Kate better get on that! I
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She needs to STFU. This is where sheeple are the true haters, or at least Milo is.
I am happy to see Jon and Kate can at least have what looks to be a calm and peaceful day in the same vicinity of each other and their children. You know why? Because I actually care that all children have a mom and dad who get along and are positive around them even if they don't like each other.
The sheeple can't be happy that there is a glimpse of co-parenting going on here. They hate Jon more than they care about the kids and what's best for THEM.
So many of us said would wonders never cease. I don't think anyone objected to the idea of them co-parenting, in fact it seemed quite welcome here, even if it was startling. The only issue that caused some discord was speculation Jon might somehow involved in or supporting filming. That's a separate issue from the idea of them co-parenting, which nobody here objects to that I saw. The sheeple? Not so much.
The sheeple can't be happy that there is a glimpse of co-parenting going on here. They hate Jon more than they care about the kids and what's best for THEM.
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Yes, Admin. You're absolutely right! Milo's hatred for Jon shows through sometimes. She's not filled with "positivity" as she'd have us believe.
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That IS bad editing.
Did TFW respond to Gladys' query about Jon? Or is she
experiencing SILENCE - the best reply to a fool?
Yeah, the concept of co-parenting would shatter the illusion of
TFW as the World's Bestest Single Mom. How dare Jon spoil
that fantasy!
Just looked at the page stats which I haven't done in awhile and I saw we had a ton of viewers on Saturday. Way more than usual due to the yard sale. Welcome everyone, including those who don't post or maybe haven't posted yet!
Catching up on reading posts. Thanks to all who checked out yard sale and shared your impressions. I think its great that all the kids got to play outside. And TFMJG and the current Mr Gosselin were in the same vicinity and things were pleasantly ordinary and boring! Boring is good, ordinary is good!
So now Jon want's to get back together with Kate cause he's homeless and has no money?
Maybe Jon showed up because it was his day to have the kids and he's tried of Kate taking them away from him.
Maybe Jon has finally got to the point of " If you can't beat them, Join them".
Just need to throw in my two cents. I'm of the camp that is glad that the two of them were able to be civil to each other and that it looks like Jon's custodial time is being respected.
Whatever Kate's true feelings, it appears TLC or someone got it through her head that it's better for her image if she is seen getting along with Jon. Even though he wasn't likely filmed, her PR team knew that the paps would be there documenting their interactions. Whatever the reasoning, I'm glad for the kids if their parents can get along.
Ultimately, it's part of the re-branding of Kate Gosselin, imo. I don't anticipate her getting a regular show, but I do think it's probably that she will do "specials" around Back to school, the holidays, and the kids' birthdays. Especially with the Honey Boo Boo mess. Boring and Ordinary may be what TLC is shooting for right now.
Wonderwall on FB has an article and pictures of kate and how Radical her looks have changed and they have the yard sale pictures.
https://www.facebook.com/Wonderwall?fref=nf
TLC has not shown a conscience in the past, so there must more to this Honey Boo Boo thing. Dare I hope that we have turned a corner and reality TV has finally hit bottom, that the viewing public has grown a brain? Or is it simply the result of advertisers having enough? Even that would be good news.
Agree. We can debate the different degrees of child abuse until the cows come home, but the bottom line is TLC was complacent in child abuse and exploitation and in some instances even encouraged it. And, they had a hand in taking sides in a contentious divorce and child custody matter, which I've always found reprehensible no matter what side they ended up on it. I have also always firmly believed if it were Jon who said he wanted to film and Kate who said no, they'd be on Jon's side quicker than scat.
They have chosen to support some bad people but not others. While it's a given no network should be giving a paycheck to someone who would put their child at risk of sexual abuse, make no mistake, the line they have drawn here is quite arbitrary. I'm not sure where their line is here. I'm not sure they know themselves. It's clear sexual abuse crosses that line as it should, but does anything else?
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My opinion is that j&k was about a good looking middle class family. We know there was a tremendous amount of editing, the final "attempted" product was the everyday family next door. (for some of us, sheeple? not so much)
Honey's family? We were encouraged to be disgusted, to be repulsed, they
exaggerated every single redneck stereotype and then some. People were outraged from the very beginning. This last "stereotypical" redneck behavior/trait is what was expected pretty much. Even though we're shocked, it's kind of...well not surprising. How much more redneck backwoods can you get?
Pretty church going blond beats her kids? Woman who refused fetus reduction now beats them?
I said upthread, with J&K they had a "good cop" and a "bad cop"
with this family, where is the "good cop"? If TLC had come clean, so to speak, with allllll the abuse they witnessed (and participated in, eye roll) as they have with June, bet this blog wouldn't be here.
. Seems like you missed a lot. I'm sure I missed many things in this list. Probably because TLC covered it up.
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Slam dunk!
Apparently TLC decided the unattractive, low class, uneducated Mama June was not worth covering up for this time.
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Oh exactly!
“Social workers will be making formal contact with all of June’s children, and any other minors that might have come into contact with Mark McDaniel. This is being taken very, very seriously by the department,” a source told Rada
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I should friggin hope so!?
AuntieAnn said... 63
FlimsyFlamsy said... 50
I think it was the first episode of Tori & Dean, when they only had little Liam. And they were having some "private" family moment -- while the cameras rolled. Suddenly, Dean noticed the paps, and ran to chase them away. While the cameras rolled. And the family collected a paycheck for the whole thing. Sigh.
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I know. Do they really think people buy that line? No one who sticks their child in front of a camera to be blasted out to millions of viewers gives two hoots about who is taking their picture, pap or public people makes no difference to them.
The stars of these shows are lazy money grubbers making big bucks off their kids. End of story. The Duggars, Kate, the Dance Moms and the boo boo mother are all cut from the same cloth.
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Like, like, like are we living in the twilght zone??
They are morons. All these faux celebrities who allow their children to be on these shows. Even worse is Tori and Dean went in knowing full well the paps are part of selling your soul. I'll give the gosselins a pass on that, but only until they CONTINUED with the exploitation. The "ppp-people" were the enemy? Danger alert Danger alert!! Stranger danger!!!, Remember her encouraging one of the boys to shoot at them on that warship? but the "stand in daddies" were to be loved and hugged! xox They were just there to capture them going about their daily lives. Just pretend they don't have camera equipment and boom mics in your little faces.
They all disgust me
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Just need to throw in my two cents. I'm of the camp that is glad that the two of them were able to be civil to each other and that it looks like Jon's custodial time is being respected.
Whatever Kate's true feelings, it appears TLC or someone got it through her head that it's better for her image if she is seen getting along with Jon. Even though he wasn't likely filmed, her PR team knew that the paps would be there documenting their interactions. Whatever the reasoning, I'm glad for the kids if their parents can get along.
Ultimately, it's part of the re-branding of Kate Gosselin, imo. I don't anticipate her getting a regular show, but I do think it's probably that she will do "specials" around Back to school, the holidays, and the kids' birthdays. Especially with the Honey Boo Boo mess. Boring and Ordinary may be what TLC is shooting for right now.
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I agree. I think with HBB show, TLC treaded forward and I do believe the sponsors of this show pulled way back with recent news of June cavorting with a child sex offender who attacked her very own child. Hard to ignore.
For some reason, TFW gets a pass with the child porn guy viewing tapes of the kids, but Kate had very little, if anything to say about it. Granted, she did not hire him, but as in every situation, she knows how to keep things TO HER ADVANTAGE. That alone says a lot about TFW. I am glad Jon showed up to the yard sale - a public yard sale, and he clearly knows how much he and Kate received for free over many years, which she was selling. Went from a portion of donations to Animal Shelter (per Kate) to all proceeds going the local animal shelter. I don't think Kate changed her mind, but rather TLC did. She is ridiculously greedy.
I honestly don't care what either Jon or Kate do to support their kids, as long as they don't exploit the kids. Both need to get a job and stop filming them. It is a shame that both M & C and possibly Collin have been poisoned on visiting Jon, even when he had the resources to house them, but this is part of her BPD and her need to remain in control at all times, by putting down Jon as well as providing many perks (concerts, clothes, special privileges, not for them, but to keep them under her control. ) I am not sure what happened with Cara, who was very close to Jon, but something has seriously gone astray. Was Cara even around yesterday?
Alienating kids from their dad is not the way to go. And keep filming what a great mom you are - LOL. TFW only cares about her fame, so the kids appear to be an afterthought/accessory in her "scheme" of life. This never should have happened. Honestly, Cara has checked out (from filming from what I can see), but wondering about Colin. There is something very odd there. God knows what it is. Because he is the most verbal, she probably "shut him down" in one way or the other, and "broke him." Simply not good with parental alienation.
Jon is not a saint in my opinion, but what TFW does goes way beyond any human decency. This show will too end. Probably way too late, but the kids deserve privacy, as this has been going on for 10 years! Time for both parents to get a job, without the kids supporting KATE!!
So selfish and self absorbed.
irginia Pen Mom said... 77
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 9m 9 minutes ago
Ah @kateplusmy8 we need U 2do a #RumoxFix See the clever tabs using J&K "reunited" angle...I think not.... :) And TLC filming ur EX? Nah
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Yes, for the sake of the Gosselin children, let's ask Kate to ONCE MORE, tell the world that she and their father will never, ever, ever get together again.
No, bad behavior is not bad behavior. That's why we have misdemeanors and felonies.
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As I thought I explained, I'm talking about bad behavior is bad behavior in the context of somebody or something, like TLC, supporting it.
Regardless the degree of bad behavior, you don't support or encourage it. TLC on the other hand, has decided that some bad behavior is okay to support, while other bad behavior is not. This is where they split hairs. That was my point.
My point was not to suggest that stealing a box of pencils is the same as wiping an entire family's house clean of possessions lock stock and barrel. However, neither act should be supported.
Not sure where this pic came from:
Concerned Chick @ConcernedChick
Here's the next shot of @Kateplusmy8 manhandling her daughter at the yard sale. Guess Kate wanted her facing her. Ugh pic.twitter.com/6io0eZOYtT
I disagreed with a lot of the viewers here regarding the pic of TFW and her hand on the girl (not sure who it is). TFW's face looked angry and the girl's shirt was obviously being pulled. From this pic, TFW really looks angry and the girl looks upset. It looks like TFW whirled her around.
pic.twitter.com/6io0eZOYtT
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aha!
There you have it. The "look" that seems to get captured more often than not
JoyinVirginia said... 73
Ot: dancing with the stars Halloween episode is great! No spoilers, but check it online if you didn't watch. The Halloween episode is always one of my favorites!
more ot: it has been gorgeous on the outer banks of north Carolina this weekend. i've been on a news limited viewing, actually didn't watch much TV at all. Watching the ocean waves is very zen. Got stress? Go outside for a while!
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We were there a couple weeks ago- never miss a sunrise (which, mercifully, is later in the Fall). I caught the "green flash" when the sun first breaks the plane of the horizon.
It was emerald and brilliant and I almost shrieked. Almost...
Have you been lucky enough to catch this phenomenon??
http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2014/10/mama-june-child-molester-abuse-anna-incident-report/?utm_source=fb-SecretPoliceReportMamaJune&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=facebook
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June needs to have her parental rights stripped. How, HOW could she??
localyocul: I agree with you about the picture of Kate pulling Alexis' arm. She was angry and you could tell it was a strong tug. I did say it was not abusive, but it was physical intimidation.'Kate is in charge, and always will be.'
Well it's hard to tell from still pictures but from what I can gather, manhandling it is not.
Grabby, directing children around by touch and force even light force, yes. And I find that very disrespectful to a child's personal space and right to have physical contact in a peaceful manner. As I said the other day, that kind of touch should be for emergencies. Otherwise, any other physical contact with a child should be for appropriate affection, not direction.
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http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2014/10/mama-june-child-molester-abuse-anna-incident-report/?utm_source=fb-SecretPoliceReportMamaJune&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=facebook
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June needs to have her parental rights stripped. How, HOW could she??
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How could this be news to TLC? I can't believe that they wouldn't fully vet each "talent's" past, especially when minors are involved.
How hard would it have been to search legal/police records for June, SB and all the kids??
Just the fact that this family had a victim of child sexual abuse should have shut down production, or even the idea of production.
Why would you knowingly put the minors at risk when this family has been through the horror of one of their own being a victim of sexual abuse?
Apparently, June marginalized what the monster did to her daughter, at best, or at worst, doesn't believe it really happened to her.
Or maybe, she just doesn't think it's a big deal.
June is going down in flames.
Apparently, June marginalized what the monster did to her daughter, at best, or at worst, doesn't believe it really happened to her.
Or maybe, she just doesn't think it's a big deal.
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Both scenarios are repulsive.
I think TLC knew about this, but when is the question. I think TLC is covering their own rears and have come out full steam ahead with trying to make sure all attention was put on June and none of them. I liken it to their smear campaign to ruin Jon. I am curious as to how TMZ and Radar got all of those pics. Did someone hear a Private Detective? Seems all orchestrated to me. Just my opinion, though.
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Admin., don't you think that child protection services has great evidence and reason to remove all remaining children from June's care?
And the ROL article said the pervert was the daughter's step-father at the time of her rape. I had not heard of this before. Being that ROL gets things wrong, is this the truth. Has anybody read anything to confirm this? Thanks to everybody for making this a great blog!
Oh- that's a different picture of Kate and Alexis- you can't see the tight grip as much here.
Omg, that poor child Anna. This is outrageous and very sick and sad. When your own mother will not validate or protect you from abuse and maintain a relationship with the abuser, that's the lowest.
After having seen the first and now second picture, in front of Jon, she was clearly using physical tactics to control her. In public. Guess not much has changed, as she clearly does not how to speak to her kids, but rather still uses physical exertion to make her point. Seems a lot has not changed after 10 years.
It is always her way or the highway. I have no idea what happened with Colin and the twins visiting their dad, but guessing it might have to do with how she treats/punishes them to keep them under control. 5 out of 8 is not a sign of TFW encouraging visits with Jon. Did Mady, Cara or Collin even say hello to Jon? If not, that says a lot about TFW's influence, and it is not okay in any form, unless Jon has done something which we don't know about. But I clearly doubt it. TFW should be ashamed of herself, putting herself before the kids' best interest. ALL ABOUT KATE; divide and conquer.
If KK man-handle Leah I'm sure Jon would've did something I mean he was standing right there.
Or I'd hope he would do something if he thought Kate was man-handling their daughter,
. I think TLC is covering their own rears and have come out full steam ahead with trying to make sure all attention was put on June and none of them. I liken it to their smear campaign to ruin Jon. I am curious as to how TMZ and Radar got all of those pics. Did someone hear a Private Detective? Seems all orchestrated to me. Just my opinion, though.
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I'm with you there. You have to wonder though, if TLC had actually done their due diligence and vetted, as Tucker said, would they not be that much farther ahead? What's it costing them now?
Well said Tucker's Mom- This is really bad behavior by June at its worst. WTF was she thinking? I guess me, all me.
Women putting their kids on display for money OR fame are shameless, although June went well beyond anything a normal parent would do. Disgusting that she puts her men before kids, and daughter should sue her, as she did nothing to protect her? All about June.
How hard would it have been to search legal/police records for June, SB and all the kids??
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Can't be too hard-TMZ, ROL seem to be pulling out records like fish in a barrel
I don't know what was going on between Kate, Jon and Alexis, but the tabloids are loving that picture. I wish there was a video. What Kate was doing by grabbing that child, and I do believe roughly but not abusively, is typical Kate all the way. My impression is that Alexis picked up a couple of items from the table and Kate was not pleased. Her reaction was ridiculous, again displaying that temper of hers. I can only imagine what goes on behind closed doors.
TLC stinks said... 90
TLC has not shown a conscience in the past, so there must more to this Honey Boo Boo thing. Dare I hope that we have turned a corner and reality TV has finally hit bottom, that the viewing public has grown a brain? Or is it simply the result of advertisers having enough? Even that would be good news.
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As I'd hoped with the release of Robert's book, I hope that this opens up the conversation of the risks you put children at, when filming them for reality tv.
Children shouldn't be regulars on reality tv, let alone headline, as Alana and all of the Gosselin children do.
To have them carry a show, for years, and line their parents' pockets, is sickening.
I don't care if the money comes back to the kids for their clothes and schooling. Children should be 100% supported by their parents, and should support their parents lifestye 0%.
Period.
Grabby, directing children around by touch and force even light force, yes. And I find that very disrespectful to a child's personal space and right to have physical contact in a peaceful manner. As I said the other day, that kind of touch should be for emergencies. Otherwise, any other physical contact with a child should be for appropriate affection, not direction.
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Yes, the child is not a toddler wandering into the road.
I don't think it's harsh in a purely physical way, but grabbing like that on a 10-year old is uncalled for when verbal communication should get the job done.
It's just obvious that physical contact of the unfriendly kind is rampant in that household.
Vanessa said... 112
How hard would it have been to search legal/police records for June, SB and all the kids??
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Can't be too hard-TMZ, ROL seem to be pulling out records like fish in a barrel
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Yup. Ray Rice, anyone?
These people with deep pockets can get their hands on information if they truly want to, but they'd rather claim plausible denial when the shit hits the fan.
Yes Leslie that would definitely be enough here in CA. They call it failure to protect and people can and will lose their kids. You don't have to be the perpetrator to lose your kids you can also be complacent which is something a lot of parents don't understand. That's why I've said before Sandusky's wife and anyone supporting June should be careful what they say if they have kids or grandkids. The courts could restrict their access to them just like that if they feel you might put them at risk of sexual or other abuse by you not appreciating or accepting the problem.
I don't know what was going on between Kate, Jon and Alexis, but the tabloids are loving that picture. I wish there was a video. What Kate was doing by grabbing that child, and I do believe roughly but not abusively, is typical Kate all the way.
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I'm not even sure I see Kate grabbing her roughly. It looks like she is holding onto her for some reason, but in neither of the photos do I see a "death grip" and she certainly isn't manhandling her daughter, but they are still carrying on about it on Twitter. It's such a stretch to use the term "manhandling" and abusive and physically violent, when the photos don't show any such thing. Anger, perhaps, displeasure, but there is no indication that the child is being beaten down in those photos.
Blowing in the Wind - I see the pictures the same way that you do. Some say that the way the shirt is pulled indicates a death grip but if she snagged a piece of the shirt from the chest area the shirt is going to be pulled in just the way it looks in the picture. I do believe she is too physical with the kids but I just don't see the manhandling in these pictures. I guess we're in the minority. C'est la vie.
Blowing In The Wind said... 122
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No, I agree, but she is holding/pulling tightly on Alexis' arm. She obviously wants her to do or stop doing something and Alexis is refusing. I would never have grabbed my children like that, especially at an age where talking/asking them to comply should suffice. I would be annoyed if someone did that to me; Alexis at age 10 should be given that respect.Of course we do know those kids do not listen to Kate and can be mouthy and we don't know what Kate wanted her to do. All I know is that I would never feel right doing that unless the child was about to harm herself some way. But Kate has always used the physical way to deal with her kids.
Just to clarify, I personally didn't use "manhandle" to accuse Kate of being "abusive." I've always used "manhandle" to refer to grabbing someone, as in a person handling someone, and it may or may not be roughly. Online definitions agree with that.
I think Kate is too physical with her children. I saw anger in her face, especially in the second photo. While I don't think that particular grab was abusive or violent, I do think it was rough. It doesn't appear to be a gentle touch, in my opinion.
Also, we don't see what happened next and we don't see Jon's face or his reaction. For all we know he did say or do something.
man·han·dle (mnhndl)
tr.v. man·han·dled, man·han·dling, man·han·dles
1. To handle roughly.
2. To move or handle by manpower alone.
manhandle (ˈmænˌhændəl; ˌmænˈhændəl)
vb (tr)
1. to handle or push (someone) about roughly
2. to move or do by manpower rather than by machinery
man•han•dle (ˈmænËŒhæn dl, mænˈhæn dl)
v.t. -dled, -dling.
1. to handle roughly.
2. to move by human strength alone.
Vanessa said... 102
How hard would it have been to search legal/police records for June, SB and all the kids??
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ROL does describe it as a "secret police report". At least in Canada, those things are NOT public knowledge. Even if a case leads to a conviction, the perpetrator's name may be kept secret to protect the identity of the victim.
So I give TLC a bye on finding the police report. They could, however, have interviewed June's family and friends, including her mother, before they decided to spotlight the family.
I forgot to add, as an example, I would have considered what the Flying Monkey, Steve, did to Admin as manhandling. He had his hands on you and he had no right to. He wasn't violent but still manhandling, in my opinion, and by definition (at least by some definitions).
His crime should have shown up on his rap sheet which costs 20 bucks to pull. Even sex crimes. I'm not sure I feel like I have enough info to know if TLC did their job. I would expect them to background check all cast members but I don't think he was part of the cast. The question then becomes should they have checked into cast memeber's boyfriends and other associations and history too. Maybe so.
I agree CC. The flying monkey manhandled me. There is no reason he could not have simply asked me to leave first. That seems to be the order of the day for that lot. As I said, they're too grabby. While it's not necessarily abuse it is using touch in a negative way. Touch should be positive not negative. I don't think it's an exaggeration at all to say that a child who grows up with a lot of negative touch (I.e. Touch used to force them to do something, direct them, etc) may have difficulties with positive touch and recognizing the difference. Now and in the future. I wouldn't risk it.
Children shouldn't be regulars on reality tv, let alone headline, as Alana and all of the Gosselin children do.
To have them carry a show, for years, and line their parents' pockets, is sickening.
I don't care if the money comes back to the kids for their clothes and schooling. Children should be 100% supported by their parents, and should support their parents lifestye 0%.
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As if this pedophile atrocity isn't bad enough I don't think, and someone please correct me if I'm wrong, that there is an equivalent to Coogan's Law in Georgia. If June hasn't set up a trust for her children it just heightens the absolute immorality of every adult involved in this unholy mess. That most certainly includes TLC producers.
Paul Petersen must be banging his head on his desk right about now.
Lots of discussion of the "grabbing" photo. Again, if you were an adult, handling another adult in that manner, it could be considered assault and battery. In some places, moving another person or preventing another person from moving is considered kidnapping. (as we saw in the O.J. case in Las Vegas.
But because it's our kids, it's okay? I don't like the way she or her Flying Monkey put their hands on people. And one day, they might have to pay the price for doing so.
PJ
I was one of the ones who said I didn't see anything wrong with the first picture. I take it back.
After seeing the second picture, TFW was definitely man-handling her child.
This is the kind of stuff my dil does all the time to my 10 yo gd. Not abusive exactly. But not pleasant, for sure. Always with the rough handling, the ugly facial expression, and harsh tone of voice. Certainly not what one would call a loving interaction.
The rough handling that comes out of nowhere. You never know when it's gonna happen. What's gonna trigger it. There are times when she startles or scares even me; I can't imagine how my gd feels.
When it happens in front of me I always want to just gather the little thing up and hug her and tell her I'll protect her. Except that I can't protect her, and hugging only enrages the mother even further.
Sometimes I'll wait a little bit, and then reach out and put my hand on her knee. Just to let her know that that rough handling wasn't ok.
The kid never looks at me, but will lean in a bit, and try to absorb some of my strength. And I try to pour as much love into her as I can in those few seconds.
To me, that kind of man-handling should be reserved for when the child is in imminent danger. Such as a toddler running into the street, or reaching for a hot pan on the stove.
A ten yo might get into that kind of situation I suppose...walking in front of a car without thinking or something.
That kind of situation being highly unlikely to occur at a garage sale....
Formerly Duped said...(110)
"Omg, that poor child Anna. This is outrageous and very sick and sad. When your own mother will not validate or protect you from abuse and maintain a relationship with the abuser, that's the lowest."
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Unfortunately Formerly, it's way more common than you think. At least it was 30 years ago when I finally told my mother her husband has been sexually abusing me for years.
I was labeled a liar, a trouble maker, an attention seeker and finally when I would not relent, mentally ill. Even years later when my sister came forward with similar (but worse) accusations against her husband, our mother refused to believe it.
To this day, she is still married to the monster and is estranged from both her daughters and all our children.
Over the years I've come across many women with similar stories about suffering sexual abuse at the hands of a relative, which I believe represents a very high number of these kinds of assaults.
I know that 40 and 50 years ago, this sort of thing was just not discussed at all and so many girls and young women suffered in silence. Likely, many of them repressed those memories in order to cope.
Since awareness and a more open dialogue about sexual abuse has come out, many of these older women, I suspect, can not accept what happened to their daughters because it means accepting what happened to them. I'm not saying that's an excuse by any means because in this day and age, there is none.
I certainly like to hope that the more we talk about this subject, acknowledge the travesty that it is and see more offenders prosecuted, it will be easier for all involved to heal without having to break up such important relationships.
In the end though, for me and my sister, our mother chose that creep over her children and grandchildren and that's a mighty heavy cross to bear.
My deepest sympathies to anyone suffering a similar experience.
Word from a witness in GA is that Sugarbear picked up Alana this morning and took her to a police station. Entertainment Today will have an interview with Anna later this week.
CC - Semantics. I can't speak for BITW, but I wasn't referring to your tweets and the words violent & death grip were used both here and on twitter. I was answering another poster and giving my opinion and I didn't think to look anything up for a literal definition since manhandled, violently grabbed and death grip seem to be interchangeable both here and on twitter.
Wow good for Sugarbear.
It's sad that poor child has to go through this in public.
If this was Jane Q. Mom in a picture, we might shrug and say,
hmmm, I don't think we can jump to any conclusions. But I think
anyone who remembers that picture of TFW grabbing little L
and lifting her dress to spank her -- for the unthinkable crime of
blowing a whistle while her mom was on the phone -- will tend
to be more critical. The benefit of the doubt tends to shrink proportionately with the amount of miserable behavior
witnessed.
And I think part of the concern is, if this grabbing goes on in
public -- during the filming of a TV show, when you'd expect
someone to mind her P's and Q's -- what may be going on
behind closed doors?
Hmm...see, this is how little I can tell about hair extensions!
Theresa Guidice actually had her lawyer ask if she could keep her extensions in prison. I thought she had a glorious head of hair (albeit with a preternaturally small forehead). I know she had hair product endorsements, too.
Her "crowning glory", apparently, is mostly fake.
Who knew?
I wonder if Kate's hair really took a hit form refusing to let it grow out naturally, and now she depends on the extensions for fullness.
It's just too full, sometimes, and doesn't seem to be other times, especially when it's pulled back tightly.
In the "grabbing" photo, I could finally see (I think) the braiding of the grafted extensions.
Man, what a lot of work and money!
"http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2014/10/teresa-joe-giudice-rhonj-real-housewives-new-jersey-hair-extensions/"Radar Story
Mel said...(132)
"Sometimes I'll wait a little bit, and then reach out and put my hand on her knee. Just to let her know that that rough handling wasn't ok.
The kid never looks at me, but will lean in a bit, and try to absorb some of my strength. And I try to pour as much love into her as I can in those few seconds."
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It's been said before Mel, but I want to reiterate that your granddaughter is very fortunate to have you in her life. You may not be able to stop the unpleasant experiences at the hands of her mother but I guarantee you, that she holds your quiet support in her heart.
When she's old enough to break free from that environment she will remember you as someone who cared about her and countered that negativity with gentleness and love. There is no greater gift you can give her.
Studies show, and my experience validates, that a child who is believed and supported (told or shown that this kind of treatment of them is wrong) does much better in overcoming the negative messages than one who is left to try and sort it out on their own.
You are very strong to stand witness, I can only imagine how difficult it must be, and offer what support you can in those moments. Too often family members turn a blind a eye because it is just too painful.
Kudos to you for putting your granddaughter's need for that gentle hand above your own discomfort. It's surprising, and really sad, how so many don't.
Mel said ... 132
That kind of situation being highly unlikely to occur at a garage sale....
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Ha, ha! Unless, of course, Gladys and Uggs Lady both show up and someone has to step in to break up the fight when they both reach for one of Kate's bikinis to buy.
Call Me Crazy said... 140
Mel said ... 132
That kind of situation being highly unlikely to occur at a garage sale....
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Ha, ha! Unless, of course, Gladys and Uggs Lady both show up and someone has to step in to break up the fight when they both reach for one of Kate's bikinis to buy.
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I just spit out my Rumspringa. Again.
Sheri (#133), blessings to you. This HBB incident is obviously
something that strikes a nerve, and it takes courage to share
your own pain. You never know when it may empower others.
CC said... 127
I forgot to add, as an example, I would have considered what the Flying Monkey, Steve, did to Admin as manhandling. He had his hands on you and he had no right to. He wasn't violent but still manhandling, in my opinion, and by definition (at least by some definitions).
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I would agree as well. I think any time someone puts their hands on you, to direct you to do something, to try to take something from you, etc. - could fall under the term "man handling." As to the photo of Kate with one of the girls - she is definitely trying to control her daughter by physical touch. It did not look like a "death grip," but by that age, I think the better parenting style would be to ask your child to "wait a minute, I need to talk with you" or "please stop what you are doing and wait here with me for a minute" or some other politely phrased request.
By demonstrating a polite, civil tone, a parent is showing their child how others should be treated, and how to treat others with respect.
On the other hand, by physically holding a child in place, or physically moving their body in any direction, a parent demonstrates a lack of respect and courtesy. (I'm talking about a ten-year old child, not a toddler who often definitely requires some gentle directional help.)
Mel said:
To me, that kind of man-handling should be reserved for when the child is in imminent danger. Such as a toddler running into the street, or reaching for a hot pan on the stove.
A ten yo might get into that kind of situation I suppose...walking in front of a car without thinking or something.
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Exactly - and even then, I would comfort my child afterward and explain why I was so rough; that I was frightened for their safety and my first thought was to get them out of harm's way.
I'm glad your grand-daughter has you, but her mom's behavior toward her makes me infinitely sad. I can only imagine how hard it must be for you to bite your tongue and keep the peace, but I know you do so for your granddaughter's best interests. She definitely needs you as a source of whatever comfort you can provide without provoking her mom.
NJGal51,
No problem. We don't have to agree. However, I did see my tweet posted here and I was (from what I recall) the first one to use the term "manhandling." I just wanted to clarify what I meant. It seemed to evolve from manhandling to abusive and violent. Semantics or not, manhandling doesn't always mean violently.
I saw these two comments in particular and wanted to reply:
Blowing In The Wind said... 122
I'm not even sure I see Kate grabbing her roughly. It looks like she is holding onto her for some reason, but in neither of the photos do I see a "death grip" and she certainly isn't manhandling her daughter, but they are still carrying on about it on Twitter. It's such a stretch to use the term "manhandling" and abusive and physically violent, when the photos don't show any such thing. Anger, perhaps, displeasure, but there is no indication that the child is being beaten down in those photos.
October 28, 2014 at 9:03 AM
NJGal51 said... 123
Blowing in the Wind - I see the pictures the same way that you do. I do believe she is too physical with the kids but I just don't see the manhandling in these pictures. I guess we're in the minority. C'est la vie.
All that being said, etc, I do think Kate was manhandling that child. And seeing Kate's face and, as someone else just brought out, knowing how Kate has physically handled her children in the past led me to believe it was on the rough side. I see manhandling. JMO of course.
Mel,
I'm glad your granddaughter has you in her life. :)
FlimsyFlamsy said... 137
And I think part of the concern is, if this grabbing goes on in public -- during the filming of a TV show, when you'd expect someone to mind her P's and Q's -- what may be going on behind closed doors?
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Well, let's see. According to Kate, their home life and her mothering rivals the happiness that Maria brought to the Von Trapp brood.
Yep. Uh huh.
Since awareness and a more open dialogue about sexual abuse has come out, many of these older women, I suspect, can not accept what happened to their daughters because it means accepting what happened to them. I'm not saying that's an excuse by any means because in this day and age, there is none.
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I wanted to post earlier today that I had a sick feeling that June was also molested as a child, but then deleted it, not wanting to "stir it up". Just a thought
So so sorry for what also has happened to you Sheri.
There are a few articles on the Internet about how Kate was "unrecognizable" at the yard sale. It will be interesting when the show airs what the baggy look and no makeup was all about. Maybe this is what she thinks "mediocre soccer moms" look like at yard sales? I would only go out in public looking like she did if my house was on fire, LOL. I know, the gal can't win because we've criticized her for being slutty at Target, so I am at a loss at what she was trying to prove on Saturday other than: the scenario was she overslept or she decided to dress down for sympathy or to blend. There was a reason for it.
So I watched a TMZ clip regarding the yard sale and it appears the reason Jon was looking at the stuff because, no surprise here, she was selling some of his old stuff. In fact, there is a picture of him holding one of his old video games.
There appears to be contradictory stories as to whether the ENTIRE $$$ raised is going to the animal league or some of it. If there is no mention of the amount, then I doubt they got much. You would think she would make an announcement as to how much was raised, right? Why doesn't the "Reading Eagle" follow up with the animal league? I am tired of her getting away with her crap.
NJGal15,
Sorry, I don't even remember exactly what I wrote to you (multitasking) but I just wanted to acknowledge that you said you weren't referring to my tweets specifically. I didn't want it to seem like I was arguing with you that you were...
SMH Again said... 69
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I must have missed when TLC covered up the fact that Kate was dating a man who molested her daughter.
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Perhaps not for child molestation but if one is to believe, which I do, that it was Kate's journal that Robert Hoffman took from the trash, in it she wrote that they were being reported to child protection services for allowing the kids to be shown on their potties. She emailed Wendy at Discovery to "take care of it with the network" for her because it was "hurting her family in all ways".
I don't know what resulted from that email but would you not agree at the very least she wanted it covered up?
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...(136)
"Wow good for Sugarbear.
It's sad that poor child has to go through this in public."
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Indeed it is terribly sad. I think what's worse though is WHY this child and her family were "chosen" for their own reality show in the first place.
Toddlers and Tiaras was a side (shit) show from the get go and the only reason this family got the spin off at all was because of the controversy surrounding them.
"Go Go Juice"
"Holla for a dolla!"
"Redneckognize!"
TLC capitalized on their "hick" way of life and made huge bank exploiting this family. I remember so many comments from people saying things like...
"But, they're such a loving family."
"But, Mama June set up trust funds for all the kids."
"But, they're so real and down to earth."
Where are those people now when it comes to light just how effed up all of this is and has been?
Who freakin' cares about how loving they SEEM, what money June MAY have put away or how real they APPEARED on television?
Reality television is big stinking pile of bullshit and lies no matter how "uniquely" it's wrapped up.
I agree with Auntie Ann's (130) sediment...
"Paul Petersen must be banging his head on his desk right about now."
Yep, two steps forward and a dozen steps back.
All of this is, as always, just my opinion.
Perhaps not for child molestation but if one is to believe, which I do, that it was Kate's journal that Robert Hoffman took from the trash, in it she wrote that they were being reported to child protection services for allowing the kids to be shown on their potties. She emailed Wendy at Discovery to "take care of it with the network" for her because it was "hurting her family in all ways".
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Yes, providing footage that gave some sickos material to j*ck*ff to is oh so less evil than dating said sicko
The Animal Rescue League ironically has reports submitted to it with regard to treatment of Nala and Shoka according to RH's book
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Sheri, I am so sorry for what you went through and angry that you were not believed.You must have felt very alone and betrayed by your own mother.
Reality television is big stinking pile of bullshit and lies no matter how "uniquely" it's wrapped up.
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And I in turn agree with YOUR sediment(s), Sheri.
To Flimsy and Vanessa,
Thank you both so much. Really, I'm in a good place now. I don't share because I'm looking for sympathy.
I feel it almost a duty to share my experience because I was able, with the help of a loving husband and his family, to work through the resulting issues of what I experienced.
I'm very fortunate and I know that. I also always had a keen sense that what happened to me was not my fault, even if I didn't have much support while going through it.
I'm just so sad that these kids are having similar experiences while at the same time being exploited by their parents and a television network to boot.
I just can not fathom how much harder these experiences are for them while swimming inside a fishbowl, the world watching. My heart aches.
If sharing my experience can help one person (even on a mostly anonymous blog) feel less alone, then I am happy to. There is absolutely no shame in having been abused.
The shame belongs to a society that does not support the victims of such crimes and instead protects the abusers. I'm afraid we still have a long way to go.
Sheri and Andrea, I am so sorry about the bad experiences you suffered during your childhood.
If Anna was 8 years old when this happened, then the next girl was 5 and the next one was 2. I wonder if he also did some sick things to them as well, but at their age they would not remember. This is really a scary thought. I hope Alana gets away from this situation. What a sick world we live in. June is now estranged from her oldest child, can not see the grandchild if that creep is around, lost her job, her partner, and may even lose her other 3 kids.
Good article about how the HBB scandal may cause networks to increase their due diligence when it comes to reality TV, especially vetting the families and doing background checks on the crew.
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2014/10/28/june-shannon-was-involved-with-another-man-on-sex-offender-registry/
I had forgot that Discovery had another show, "Sons of Guns", where the star was arrested for molesting minors.
An excerpt:
"Discovery also had to abruptly cancel another show, “Sons of Guns,” this year after star Will Hayden was arrested on multiple charges of rape and sexual assault against minors. In this case, Hayden had no prior sex offenses, so Discovery would have had no way of knowing about the alleged crimes except from the victims themselves.
One high-powered reality TV executive says these two recent incidents may spur a big change in how cast and crew are vetted.
“This will force companies to go much deeper and look at who their personalities associate with,” explained the source. “If a child is involved in a show, the entire crew undergoes background checks too. That is likely to become more thorough as well.”
Glen Selig, President and CEO of Selig Multimedia says the public expects in-depth checks to ensure they are not watching shows populated by criminals or those cavorting with convicted child molesters.
“This will certainly cause networks to step up their due diligence,” he said. “People laugh at these shows and get a kick out of the ‘stars’ until the storyline turns painfully serious.”
A representative for TLC and Boo Boo’s production company, Authentic Entertainment, did not respond to a request for further comment."
I hope these incidents do cause the networks to step up their investigation into ALL people who work on the show. Perhaps, if TLC and Figure 8 had done that, they never would have hired Bill Blankenship.
MARIE @MY_2BCOLLIES 4m4 minutes ago
@Kateplusmy8 @bltsndwich Well Kate there are many articles saying you were jaw dropping beautiful at your garage sale, even without makeup!
Marie, Lexie, Border or whatever your name is. Let me tell you something. Kate has never been jaw-dropping beautiful. Years ago, with her pixieish haircut, before the botox and whatever the heck else she had done to her face, before the long, over-processed string hair, she was attractive. Fresh, natural, and cute, in fact.
But now, no way. If you'd see her on the street, you'd never look twice at her, much less drop your jaws over her stunning beauty. She's average-looking at best. Nothing more.
I haven't posted in awhile but this yard sale has made me curious. Nothing Kate does is ever without a motive, an agenda, or an angle.
This event was designed to show a generous Kate, dressed-down and humble, donating proceeds to a cause for animals. None of these things would come naturally to her, so she is just re-branding herself at TLC's request to drum up ratings and curiosity for her upcoming shows.
Her children must be terribly confused as to who their real mother is. Kate becomes the person the holder of the chequebook tells her to become. She is a chameleon, a caricature, and not the slightest bit interested in being a constant in her kids lives. She still lives with her dream of getting it all back and will be whatever Kate she is called on to be.
My guess is that Jon just showed up knowing there was absolutely nothing she could do to get rid of him. She has no restraining order, it's a free country, a public event in a church yard, and not held behind her locked gates at home. She had to be fuming, but obviously, TLC wanted to draw her out into the community at large, and then along came Jon! She must have been counting down the minutes to ending the phoney-baloney, made for TV yard sale.
There is nothing of interest in this event, it'll be edited down to a few minutes of Kate being kind and generous, just another ploy, and
no-one really cares what she does anymore. People may be buying her stuff, but no-one is buying the new, community-minded Kate.
Saw a great comment on one of the HBB discussions, it also applies to tfw
'A uterus doea not a mother make'
I hope these incidents do cause the networks to step up their investigation into ALL people who work on the show. Perhaps, if TLC and Figure 8 had done that, they never would have hired Bill Blankenship.
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But is there a background check done on the film crews? Kate always claimed that they were like family, their daddies, besties or whatever. I remember the scene in the basement with the crew member filming one of the twins; and the one left alone upstairs at the new house with one of the tups. At that time, were background checks done on those people? Even if the network hadn't done one, as a mother I certainly would have insisted on it. Granted, there may be things in their past that wouldn't show up in a report, but then again, you just never know what one might uncover. It's always worth the extra effort -- for the sake of the kids.
Anyone else see the Facebook page from A MINOR Consideration today? Sounds like a get together with Mr Murt and Peterson and among others. Glad they are still in contact with him.
June is now estranged from her oldest child, can not see the grandchild if that creep is around, lost her job, her partner, and may even lose her other 3 kids.
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Yes, but at least she has a new Sugar Bear to take care of her needs. Ugh. Who else would want her?
But now, no way. If you'd see her on the street, you'd never look twice at her, much less drop your jaws over her stunning beauty
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I have to disagree with this.....
Milo thinks her queen is breathtakingly beautiful and that body of her queen Milo could stare at it allllday.
Ha, ha! Unless, of course, Gladys and Uggs Lady both show up and someone has to step in to break up the fight when they both reach for one of Kate's bikinis to buy.
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I think Uggs would be much more likely to reach for the good supportive bra. Gladys, I'm not sure about...possibly anything that Kate touched or breathed upon.
Shut up. Shut up. Shut up!
miloandjack
@Kateplusmy8 U have such nice attractive features so that even w/out make-up...ur a knock out! Pretty eyes, gr8 smile, healthy skin! :)
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ingrid said... 164
Anyone else see the Facebook page from A MINOR Consideration today? Sounds like a get together with Mr Murt and Peterson and among others. Glad they are still in contact with him.
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Yes, I did see that post. For those of you who haven't seen it:
A Minor Consideration
I'm off to Pennsylvania to pay my political respects to Rep Tom Murt and his friends who helped us pass meaningful child labor legislation demanded by the ill-fated "Jon & Kate + 8." Yes, I will be seeing Jon Gosselin at one or more of the scheduled events. I wonder what I'll be talking about? Let's see, "Honey Boo Boo," "Dance Moms...
Be well, one and all, and have a safe Halloween. Best, Paul Petersen
Dear Lord!!
man on sex offender registry
By Hollie McKayPublished October 28, 2014FoxNews.com
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‘Honey Boo Boo’ matriarch denies dating child sex offender
LOS ANGELES – The Discovery network show “Here Comes Honey Boo Boo” was canceled after allegations and photographs arose suggesting that star June “Mama June” Shannon was dating her ex-boyfriend Mark McDaniel – a convicted child molester recently released from prison.
But it turns out McDaniel is not the first sex offender Shannon has been linked to.
The father of Shannon’s daughter Jessica, Michael Anthony Ford, was arrested in 2005 and later convicted for the sexual exploitation of a child over the Internet, putting him on the sex offender registry, too. According to Georgia Department of Corrections, he was sentenced to a maximum of four years behind bars and 10 years of probation, but the nature of the criminal offense remains unclear.
According to prison records, he is still behind bars on a separate charge of child abandonment.
The fathers of Shannon’s other children also have criminal records, though not sex related.
Alana’s father, David Michael “Sugar Bear” Thompson, was sentenced to five years for robbing a series of campsites and setting fire to another.
Anna’s father, David Dunn, did time for stealing a handgun and later for stealing a carton of cigarettes.
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2014/10/28/june-shannon-was-involved-with-another-man-on-sex-offender-registry/
If this doesn't cause Discovery to pull the plug on TLC, I don't know what will. Unbelievable.
PJ
chefsummer #Leh said... 166
But now, no way. If you'd see her on the street, you'd never look twice at her, much less drop your jaws over her stunning beauty
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I have to disagree with this.....
Milo thinks her queen is breathtakingly beautiful and that body of her queen Milo could stare at it allllday.
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^^ LOL, you called it, chef! And she just tweeted it!
Who is Kate, really? I think it'd be fun to have a Halloween-themed post in which K8s various personas are on display.
The b'day clown
Bikini Babe (Lounging on the chaise in Mexico)
The CA bride
Yard Sale Maven
Road Trip Mama
Cowardly Lion
Emmys skit
Dancing With the Stars (braying on the cherry picker)
I'm sure you can think of others...
I think Milo is suffering from cataracts...and doesn't know it.
bm
miloandjack
@Kateplusmy8 U have such nice attractive features so that even w/out make-up...ur a knock out! Pretty eyes, gr8 smile, healthy skin! :)
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Wow. Just wow. Milo has officially passed the border of Creepy.
And another step inside Creepy...
Fired Up 4 Kate@MiloandJack·42 mins42 minutes ago
@Kateplusmy8 @bltsndwich Amazing 3hrs sleep...up all day on ur feet...doing constant meet & greet...& still managed 2b oh so sweet! :)
Over In TFW's County said... 163
But is there a background check done on the film crews? Kate always claimed that they were like family, their daddies, besties or whatever. I remember the scene in the basement with the crew member filming one of the twins; and the one left alone upstairs at the new house with one of the tups. At that time, were background checks done on those people?
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Good question. Will we ever know though?
I think we learned from watching Kate on the show that if she was willing to expose her kids to millions of viewers on a weekly basis she wasn't very concerned about who was in the basement with her kids. As long as they stayed out of her hair she was happy. That's another reason why I have so much contempt for her. She makes every effort be as far from her kids as she possibly can UNLESS it's for filming.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 42m42 minutes ago
@Kateplusmy8 @bltsndwich Amazing 3hrs sleep...up all day on ur feet...doing constant meet & greet...& still managed 2b oh so sweet! :)
Good lord. Who in the world IS this person?
If this doesn't cause Discovery to pull the plug on TLC, I don't know what will. Unbelievable.
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This doesn't surprise me at all. I never watched the show, but I did see the commercials and I saw Mama and Child Boo on a talk show. All I had to do was look at that white trash family and know that the lifestyle was anything but clean and good. They made my skin crawl.
I think the takeaway message for this for networks should be that the people who seek out reality T.V. in the first place are often a nefarious lot to begin with. You can try to vet them, but even with a good vetting of the Honey Boo Boo family, there's no guarantee it would have turned up the true extent of their issues. Thus, the only best practice is to abstain. Get out of reality T.V., get out of exploiting families and other layman. It's become clear it's the only moral thing to do.
miloandjack
@Kateplusmy8 U have such nice attractive features so that even w/out make-up...ur a knock out! Pretty eyes, gr8 smile, healthy skin! :)
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Pretty eyes = contact lenses
Great smile = overly white/large veneers
Healthy skin = um, not so much - check out close-ups without photoshopping or without the make-up spackled on.
Virginia Pen Mom said... 171
I was actually kidding lol but Milo's creepiness never seems to fail.
miloandjack
@Kateplusmy8 U have such nice attractive features so that even w/out make-up...ur a knock out! Pretty eyes, gr8 smile, healthy skin! :)
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Wow. Just wow. Milo has officially passed the border of Creepy.
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Comments like that convince me her feelings for Kate are romantic in nature. Not that there's anything wrong with that. But you don't talk like that about a friend or think about a friend's "features" like that. Your girlfriends are just your girlfriends, who sits there and ponders about how Sally's "features" are so lovely down to her smile, eyes and skin? Weird.
I guess the sad part is more for Milo, who if she is to be believed, has a husband and children. If she is lusting after someone else, man or woman, that doesn't bode well for a healthy relationship with a spouse. Maybe her husband knows or has an idea and has distanced himself which explains the time she has to lust after Kate.
Also, Kate should not encourage it. That's wrong.
Going back to Paul Petersen's post on FB. I check out Rep. Murt's site and found this:
Murt to Host Jon Gosselin and Paul Petersen at Upper Moreland High School
10/28/2014
WHAT: Rep. Thomas Murt (R-Montgomery/Philadelphia) will host a discussion on child performers in Pennsylvania and the impact of the state’s child labor laws on the Pennsylvania film and television industry.
WHO: Jon Gosselin of “Jon and Kate Plus 8” and Paul Petersen of “The Donna Reed Show” and the child actor advocacy group “A Minor Consideration.”
WHEN: Thursday, Oct. 30, 7 p.m.
http://www.repmurt.com/NewsItem.aspx?NewsID=21908
I'm glad to see that Jon is hooking up with not only Paul Petersen, but also Rep. Murt.
AuntieAnn said... 151
Perhaps not for child molestation but if one is to believe, which I do, that it was Kate's journal that Robert Hoffman took from the trash, in it she wrote that they were being reported to child protection services for allowing the kids to be shown on their potties. She emailed Wendy at Discovery to "take care of it with the network" for her because it was "hurting her family in all ways". I don't know what resulted from that email but would you not agree at the very least she wanted it covered up?
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On the back of Robert's book is a quote from Kate's attorney that says "She has as much right to this being kept private as anyone".
There is a HUGE difference between privacy & secrecy. Not sure why these reality "stars" put their lives out there for all to see & then are shocked when their dirty little secrets are revealed. I guess TLC has a sliding scale that helps them determine which secrets they will continue to help cover up & which ones will get a 'star' canceled.
You know what argument never works in child abuse court?
Your honor, this sort of child molestation/exploitation is not as bad as that sort!
Rather, what you have to argue is that the evidence is not there. That is what will work, if it's true.
It does not matter what is "worse". It's all bad. As it should be. NO sort of abuse toward a child should be tolerated, and I'm saying that to YOU, TLC.
I'm glad to see that Jon is hooking up with not only Paul Petersen, but also Rep. Murt.
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Wow, excellent.
Hey weren't people just demanding that he hook up with them and criticizing him for not? Ask and you shall receive.
And that's just proof you can't make assumptions about what he is or is not doing. Folks had assumed he was NOT speaking with people like Murt. Turns out, he is.
Dear Lord!!
man on sex offender registry
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omg! It CAN get worse can't it.
That poor girl having to relive this shit. Dare I say, maybe all this publicity will keep that POS from acting on his depraved thoughts.
Why did TFW tweet 'din' in quotation marks?
All This Is That said... 177
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 42m42 minutes ago
@Kateplusmy8 @bltsndwich Amazing 3hrs sleep...up all day on ur feet...doing constant meet & greet...& still managed 2b oh so sweet! :)
Good lord. Who in the world IS this person?
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And WHAT is this person?? Milo is one strange bird. She's tweeting hard because Kate has responded to Border Collie and several others and not poor old Milo.
She even asked Kate if it were "poetry time??" You know Kate's just sitting around waiting for those childish rhymes. Wouldn't call them poetry ... An ode to Milo, with apologies to Robert Frost:
"Stopping by Kate's Timeline on a Chilly Evening"
Whose rhymes these are, I think I know
Her house is in the Deep South, though.
She will not stop the tweeting here,
In hopes of getting Kate aglow.
Her rescue dog must think it queer
To watch her tweeting all night here
Amidst the daffy lust and so,
The strangest tweeter of the year.
He gives his collar tags a shake
To ask if she is such a flake.
The only other sound's the tap
Of creepy Milo, tweeting crap!
"If June hasn't set up a trust for her children it just heightens the absolute immorality of every adult involved in this unholy mess. That most certainly includes TLC producers."
In past interviews, she has claimed to set up trust funds for her daughters and granddaughter that they will have when they're 21. It's hard to believe anything she says now though.
MORE THAN LIKELY, the terms of his parole include that he cannot be around minor children.
So now we're very likely looking at June also allowing someone to violate their parole by allowing them around her children.
Her kids would already be detained by now if she were in Los Angeles. I'd be shocked at this point if they didn't detain HBB, however because it appears SugarBear is appropriate (I think anyway), she likely will be placed with him instead of foster care.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 186
I'm glad to see that Jon is hooking up with not only Paul Petersen, but also Rep. Murt.
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Wow, excellent.
Hey weren't people just demanding that he hook up with them and criticizing him for not? Ask and you shall receive.
And that's just proof you can't make assumptions about what he is or is not doing. Folks had assumed he was NOT speaking with people like Murt. Turns out,
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Here here! But sadly, this will not be enough for some
FYI, Coogan accounts are only required in California, New York, Louisiana and New Mexico.
I hope HBB's money is protected somehow. Looks like it's all she's going to get.
"People rise and fall in the entertainment industry all the time. When you are rising, everyone wants to be your friend. When you are falling… half a dozen people are ready to step over your body and take your place! This former reality star has been planning a comeback. And now that there is a hole in the lineup of a network that banks on reality, she is ready to jump in. She looks good, she is already in meetings pitching multiple show concepts, she is flexible on the dollars, and she knows exactly how the whole system works. This opportunist is ready to go, but producers have to be sure of one important thing: Does the audience still care about her? If they do, her show will be rushed into production within the next couple of months.
Falling Reality Star:
Opportunist:"
Doesn't this blind item sound like Kate? But at the end, it sounds like she has not filmed anything, but she has the special in December they've been filming.
These sort of things are habitual and the fact that June has now been linked to two sex offenders speaks to the habitual and cyclical nature of some child abusers like June.
June too is a child abuser, because failure to protect a child from abuse IS abuse, by law.
Her children need therapy but June needs therapy too to understand why she won't protect her children.
Glen Selig, President and CEO of Selig Multimedia says the public expects in-depth checks to ensure they are not watching shows populated by criminals or those cavorting with convicted child molesters.
Or child beaters. Or animal abusers.
"People rise and fall in the entertainment industry all the time. When you are rising, everyone wants to be your friend. When you are falling… half a dozen people are ready to step over your body and take your place!
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Sure sounds like it. I think Jon's presence at the yard sale and now this meeting with Peterson have more meaning than we may think
Here's another thing Kate needs to ponder, but I bet she doesn't.
TLC is the teat, and they could take it away whenever they want. No notice, no explanation, no due process. Just GONE.
She says she needs this "job" to support her children but don't you need stability more than anything, even if another job is less money? A parent of eight children needs a stable job she can count on for the next 10 years. She can't count on TLC. She's nuts to think this is a sure thing and the sacking of HBB should be a wake up call to her. I find complaints about Jon's job ironic, since Kate's job is even more unstable than restaurant work. At least you usually have a lot of warning when a restaurant is failing and can start looking for something else well ahead of time. Last week HBB was TLC's star. Today, she's history.
"Drag a hundred dollar bill through a trailer park…" TLC should have known better.
Wow. Just wow. Milo has officially passed the border of Creepy.
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I can't figure out if she's really a creeper, or if what she tweets is nothing but snark, poking fun at Kate and being over-the-top in her lust for her (as in jest).
Whatever she is, it's not normal, and if Kate thinks that these fans demonstrate what is normal, then she's as "off" as they are.
I would be embarrassed out of my mind if someone such as Milo tweeted these insane gushing tweets to me. I'd distance myself as far as possible, or privately e-mail her and tell her in no uncertain terms to knock it off.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 42m42 minutes ago
@Kateplusmy8 @bltsndwich Amazing 3hrs sleep...up all day on ur feet...doing constant meet & greet...& still managed 2b oh so sweet! :)
Milo, you moron. If you are really nice and sweet and pleasant you don't have to "manage" to be sweet. You just are. It's not an act. It comes naturally.
Totally OT and probably TMI for some. My bully had his surgery today for his inverted lid and all went well. He's home, had a steak for dinner and didnt have a problem, ahem, with numbers 1 or 2. He is resting comfortably but is not happy with having to wear the cone of shame.
Speaking of really "off" sheeple, has Defective ceased her non-stop ranting about everything and everyone under the sun? I don't read her TL.
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