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«Oldest ‹Older 401 – 600 of 1245 Newer› Newest»This is the first I'm hearing about Jon having the kids for 3 wks. while she filmed CA.
How the heck did she let THAT happen? Her friends didn't know how to help her by babysitting for 3 wks?
PatK said... 3
This is the first I'm hearing about Jon having the kids for 3 wks. while she filmed CA.
How the heck did she let THAT happen? Her friends didn't know how to help her by babysitting for 3 wks?
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If this is true, it is a step in the right direction.
Kerry Lacey @Laceylove03 47m47 minutes ago
"@Sassccha: @Laceylove03 @jongosselin @Kateplusmy8 Jon refuses to live off $$ generated by his kids" jon does not tend or feed his kids
Oh, sheeple. I wonder how much weight the kids lost in the three straight weeks he was caring for them (if he didn't feed them).
"Anon/Leslie, kate was the one that went to Jon and told him, sign this CA agreement and you can do what you want to do, I can do what I want to do, but just show up for filming and lets keep the gravy train rolling."
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Redbirdsings -- You don't know this and yet are putting this out as fact, along with other rumors that were reported in the tabloids. Why? This is the kind of stuff that the non-fans (haters) come up with on Kate's twitter.
"Steve had his arm around her, cozy. Hugh Dillon said he wished he would of thought to have gotten that shot, I don't know what I was thinking!"
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Again, there is no proof of this. I can't imagine that if they were having an affair and they had kept it a secret for so long that they would snuggle up to each other in public, knowing that it could be captured on film by all of the photographers at that event. It makes no sense. Could it have happened? Yes, anything is possible...but it is just a story that was passed around.
Susie Cincinnati said... 5
"Anon/Leslie, kate was the one that went to Jon and told him, sign this CA agreement and you can do what you want to do, I can do what I want to do, but just show up for filming and lets keep the gravy train rolling."
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Redbirdsings -- You don't know this and yet are putting this out as fact, along with other rumors that were reported in the tabloids. Why? This is the kind of stuff that the non-fans (haters) come up with on Kate's twitter.
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Actually it was Jodi and Kevin who said that in an interview. It wasn't made up by "non-fans."
Robert also backed it up in his book. Whether you want to believe it or not is another issue, but it wasn't just one of those "anonymous sources" or a "tabloid" rumor.
Part of the article:
Robert, who formed a friendship with Jon while reporting on the family for Us Weekly, said Jon told Kate he didn’t feel comfortable continuing Jon & Kate Plus Eight in late 2007.
“That’s when Kate told him that their marriage was over and that she wanted to live separate lives, except for filming the show,” Robert claimed in the newly re-published book. “Kate gave Jon carte blanche to see other women and do whatever he wanted, as long as he was present and on time for filming… She used the words ‘open marriage’ to Jon.”
In 2009, when the public charade was up, Kate’s brother and sister-in-law made the same claims about a “marriage contract” Kate issued Jon.
“Kate came to him with a contract saying he could have girlfriends and that he could do his own thing,” said Kevin and Jodi Kreider, who are estranged from Kate. “In exchange, Jon needs to show up for filming. But otherwise he has the freedom, certain days, to do whatever he wants.”
In the book, Robert said Jon wasn’t initially interested in the offer. Instead, he wanted to go to marriage counseling with Kate, but she flatly refused and supposedly told him, “If something is wrong with you, you should go and fix it.” Robert said Jon did try to do that by “spending a small fortune” on his own therapy sessions.
Source: http://starcasm.net/archives/277267
I think Jon could use some time without a girlfriend. I think he should find a job that he can go to every day even if he doesn't love every minute of it. But to say he would refuse to feed his kids? That's some extreme hatred for someone you don't even know.
There are celebrities who do things I despise. I can't say I hate them though. To me, that's so personal an emotion. It's reserved for those I really know. That guy from Seventh Heaven. If he abused girls, he deserves his punishment and he is a horrible person. But I don't hate him. I don't know him. I'm sure if he had a family he would have fed and clothed them and probably loved them. Some of these Kate sheeple really seem to HATE Jon. They feel so intimately involved with Kate that they should hate Jon who hurt her or whatever. It's so warped.
Susie, 5: "Redbirdsings -- You don't know this and yet are putting this out as fact, along with other rumors that were reported in the tabloids. Why?"
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I agree. Kate is a shallow person, with a string of adjectives to describe her and her horrible, immature behavior. We've seen proof of many disgusting things that she's done, and many have called her out on the lies. We don't need to report tabloid rumors and other gossip as facts when she's done enough on her own that can be verified.
terri said... 192
Jon needs to just take his kids on his visitation times, enjoy his children and pretty much let her self destruct on her own. Because that day will eventually come.
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You know, I doubt if Kate even knows what co-parenting is. She has such a skewed understanding of things she probably thinks it means she and Jon and the kids have to do things as a family all the time so she flat out says absolutely not. She's too stubborn and immature to educate herself about co parenting.
But I get why it's all business with her and they just follow the custody orders without communicating otherwise. She hatched a business plan way back when she married Jon then turned her uterus into a cannula for doppelgangers. She hasn't strayed from the plan since. Business and commerce is all those kids are to her.
"Now the story continues with the fame spawn and their spawn. "
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Remember when the Duggars' catch phrase was "buy used and save the difference"? I think they ought to be honest about their current catch phrase: "have a rich Daddy, don't work at all."
I hope Jessa and Ben are happy in their marriage for many years to come. But this guy is in no way self-supporting, so how is he going to support himself, his wife, and the kids that are sure to follow soon? Is he going to keep working for JimBob, mowing his lawn, polishing his shoes, and making sure he always has 3 cans of Aquanet hairspray on hand? Are he and Jessa going to move into the basement of the big fancy house JimBob gave to Jill and Derick?
I also noticed that JimBob couldn't manage to dredge up a single tear over giving Jessa away to Ben.
I agree that JimBob is a huge cheapskate and treated the wedding guests terribly. Spring for a caterer you ass, and serve some real food to your guests. While you are at it, set up some tables and chairs so they don't have to stand around in a parking lot. So tacky.
I cannot imagine Jon would move to California, unless his children
moved there. As questionable as some of his choices have been,
that would truly shock me. But in the meantime, if he's in LA on a
weekend he doesn't have custody, that doesn't seem to be of any
negative consequence to anyone.
"Steve had his arm around her, cozy. Hugh Dillon said he wished he would of thought to have gotten that shot, I don't know what I was thinking!"
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Again, there is no proof of this
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This was the Red Cross Ball kerfuffle with Hugh Dillon (Philly Chat guy). Hugh bragged that he got some sort of money shot of Kate, that would be heard 'round the World yada yada...
After Hugh milked and teased this so called "money shot" (wink, wink, nudge, nudge), Kate went into retaliation overdrive and publicly called him a liar, basically attacking him before he even released said photo.
I have no idea whether Hugh was just stirring the pot and being hysterical for the sake of drumming up attention, but what he released as the "money shot" was a photo of Kate getting a Tarot card reading.
Big flipping whoop.
If, if Hugh did have some sort of Kate and Steve canoodling photo, someone put the kabosh on it.
If Hugh thought the photo of Kate getting a Tarot card reading would rock the world, then he's either a histrionic morn, or he's lying.
Kate's Christian patina was long worn off by that time, so who cares if she wanted to go all Severus Snape Dark Arts??
From what I remember, this Philly Chat pap guy was peeing his pants over getting Kate scoops, from their filming on the Rocky steps and then the Red Cross Ball.
He held back nothing when reporting about her ignoring the kids and focusing on her phone the whole time, telling them what to say for the cameras and making them repeat the run up the steps to get the shot right (and ignoring completely a boy who fell).
He was loving the attention he was getting reporting on the local celeb.
Then, suddenly, after he teased a photo that would shock everyone, he backed down and kissed Kate's ass.
Profusely. Poor guy must have needed a carton of Chap Stick.
I agree that JimBob is a huge cheapskate and treated the wedding guests terribly. Spring for a caterer you ass, and serve some real food to your guests. While you are at it, set up some tables and chairs so they don't have to stand around in a parking lot. So tacky.
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Jim Boob reminds me of Kate in that he's running a business, not raising a family.
What went on with the wedding? No food? Crappy food and no chairs for guests?
You know, after all these years of filming and books and appearances and magazine spreads and photo shoots, Jim Boob and Michelle are rolling in dough.
Are there laws that protect their kids' money from filming?
FlimsyFlamsy said... 11
I cannot imagine Jon would move to California, unless his children
moved there. As questionable as some of his choices have been,
that would truly shock me. But in the meantime, if he's in LA on a
weekend he doesn't have custody, that doesn't seem to be of any
negative consequence to anyone.
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Agree. I was just curious as to Jon's increased media presence. Maybe it's related to Paul Peterson, and maybe he's stoking the reality tv show flames again.
Stats on Jill Duggars Wedding:
•Volunteers: 200+
•Number of invitees: 3,000
•Number of guests that were able to attend: 1,000
•Number of months Jill and Derick had to plan the wedding: 3
•Number of bridesmaids: 6
•Number of groomsmen: 6
•Number of flower girls: 4
•Number of ring bearers: 4
•Number of cups of ice cream prepared for Jill’s special request of root beer floats: 3,000
•Gallons of pickles: 70 (it’s a Duggar thing)
•Number of cupcakes: 600
•Number of cookies: 4,000
•Pounds of popcorn: 75
•Amount of money Jim Bob will spend if all his daughters spend the average amount for an American wedding: $200,000
•Number of times Jill and Derick kissed before the wedding: 0
Source: TLC
Instead of a sit down dinner, they had a sit down sugar supper.
TLC should of done a crossover show with Food Network.
Dinner Impossible with Chef Robert Irvine!
I've stopped reading Kate's TL and only know about what's going on there when someone posts here. I was tired of the Jon bashing, saying he is homeless, he wants only fame and money, he wants to make money off his children by putting them on television, that both Kate and Jon are lousy parents and love fame more than they love their children, etc. I haven't seen any of that coming from Jon. In fact, his recent appearance with Rep. Murt and Petersen give evidence to the contrary. He knows what reality television can do to a child and he wants more child labor laws put into place. I'm not aware of any plans he has to shove the camera in his children's faces on television. If he has said he wants the kids to keep filming, where is the interview in which he has stated this? Have I missed it?
I also don't believe that he is homeless and without a job. He has to be living somewhere, and there must be money coming in from some source, and I'd be willing to bet that Kate isn't sharing her fortune with him...out of the goodness of her heart.
I agree that JimBob is a huge cheapskate and treated the wedding guests terribly. Spring for a caterer you ass, and serve some real food to your guests. While you are at it, set up some tables and chairs so they don't have to stand around in a parking lot. So tacky.
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Normally I'm a big believer in just putting on whatever wedding you like, it's not about the party it's about the marriage. But they seemingly can afford a nice wedding and it did seem very cheap.
When I saw all those root beer floats had melted I was embarrassed for them. And you didn't even get a full root beer float you got like those half cup things and one tiny scoop of icecream. That melted. When refrozen it'll taste gross.
It's the site, not us. I had the same problem connecting earlier today. Seems to be working fine now.
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It seems blogger is sort of tweaking with things lately trying to change things up, improve things. We'll have to wait and see.
Have Kate and Kravitz both disappeared at the same time again? ;-)
How the heck did she let THAT happen?
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I'm thinking I tend to believe he actually does have right of first refusal, if he actually KNOWS she's leaving town. If she's leaving town she can't get a nanny without first asking him if he would like the kids. I bet that's what happened here and there's nothing she can do about it if it's a court order.
Remember when he said something about how he didn't even know the twins were in NYC and the younger kids were back in PA? I recall him either saying or implying that he was supposed to be informed of that. That would be part of right of first refusal.
Has the story of Kate's kiss with Steve (one of the twins allegedly seeing it happen) been documented somewhere -- from Jodi and Kevin, or in Robert's book?
I'm thinking I tend to believe he actually does have right of first refusal, if he actually KNOWS she's leaving town. If she's leaving town she can't get a nanny without first asking him if he would like the kids. I bet that's what happened here and there's nothing she can do about it if it's a court order.
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But how can that be -- that he took the kids while Kate was filming CA? According to the sheeple, he doesn't see his kids and wants nothing to do with them, and they don't want to be with him.
Then, suddenly, after he teased a photo that would shock everyone, he backed down and kissed Kate's ass.
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Then again, maybe there was no photo and the whole thing was one big publicity tease.
Normally I'm a big believer in just putting on whatever wedding you like, it's not about the party it's about the marriage. But they seemingly can afford a nice wedding and it did seem very cheap.
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I think you should have the wedding you can afford and provide generously for your guests.
This can range from a backyard bbq to a lavish black tie affair.
1000 people is ridiculous. There's no way you can possibly begin to great and thank people for coming.
Pickles and crappy root beer floats is disgusting, ill-conceived and immature.
I hope the guests realized that the special couple chose not to provide not only not a meal, but not even decent noshing.
It sounds like it was a frigging cattle call...
Over And Out said... 21
Has the story of Kate's kiss with Steve (one of the twins allegedly seeing it happen) been documented somewhere -- from Jodi and Kevin, or in Robert's book?
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I don't think so, and I'm disinclined to believe it based on that.
What I do believe is first-hand accounts of how close Kate and Steve were in San Fran and BHI.
No way in heck do you canoodle with a married man like that when there's nothing going on.
Uh uh, no way.
Then again, maybe there was no photo and the whole thing was one big publicity tease.
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That's what I'm sayin'! Either Hughey wanted some attention and stirred the pot by teasing and implying he had an explosive photo (which, btw, if it wasn't involved Kate and Steve canoodling, then who cares?), or he actually is dumb enough to think that taking a pic of Kate getting a Tarot card reading is a big deal, which of course, NO ONE would think.
Maybe some Evangelical hanger-oners might clutch their pearls, but other than that, YAWN!!
Well, I have to say, I see nothing wrong with how the Duggars did their weddings. I have been to many weddings, both traditional, ethnic, and modern. The traditional ones, you had a sit down dinner, same with the ethnic weddings. Now some of the modern ones, had no dinner, just a sweet table and wedding cake, no music, no dancing, just a get together, after the ceremony. A lot of couples are doing that to cut down on costs. They don't go to a hall anymore, they use a church basement. Depends on how many people and how big your church is and how much you have to spend and your beliefs. I saw nothing wrong with what the Duggars did, Duggars don't dance. So just having something to drink: coffee, soda, milk, and sweets and wedding cake, I have been to a few weddings, and that is all they had. But they did have a breakfast before the wedding or a dinner for family & real close friends the night before. Although they probably could have had a place for people to sit and a very large sweet table. That is up to the wedding couple. Just as I have been to a few funerals and they had food, at the funeral home or you were invited to someones home or restaurant after. But, then some funerals I've been to, had no food or even going to anyones home or restaurant. depends on person.
OT- for your viewing pleasure ;-), I wanted to recommend HBO's "Olive Kitteridge". It's a 4-part series with Frances McDormand and an amazing cast.
The totally narcissistic character of Olive will have you thinking of Kate a lot!
We're also enjoying "The Paradise", which is for you "Downton Abbey" fans.
Over And Out said... 23
Then, suddenly, after he teased a photo that would shock everyone, he backed down and kissed Kate's ass.
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Then again, maybe there was no photo and the whole thing was one big publicity tease.
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I don't believe for one second that if he had a photo that showed the two of them in a romantic snuggle that he wouldn't have sold it to the tabs for big bucks...bingo! After several years, lowly pap finally captures Gosselin and her boobyguard in an intimate embrace. Certainly that would have been more lucrative for him than whatever he would have gotten out of kissing Kate's rear end.
Update on harassment on twitter. Hopefully it will go further.
http://www.cnet.com/uk/news/twitter-teams-with-womens-group-on-anti-harassment-tool/
1000 people is ridiculous. There's no way you can possibly begin to greet and thank people for coming. 24
I read that 3,000 people were invited and 1,000 attended.
I've been to all sorts of ceremonies too, but in this case, I agree with Tucker's. It sounds like a cattle call. For gifts perhaps?
Pickles
Has the story of Kate's kiss with Steve (one of the twins allegedly seeing it happen) been documented somewhere -- from Jodi and Kevin, or in Robert's book?
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I don't think so, and I'm disinclined to believe it based on that.
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I'm lost. Didn't someone posted this as if it actually happened? Was it redbirdsings?
I need a good Bloody Mary.
I think that it is telling that the guest were served pickles and root beer floats. Pickles and ice cream. Hmmm. That is what pregnant women crave and the Duggars are baby makers. Just ridiculous. Jill became pregnant within 30 days.
I believe Jim Bob talked Jill into the root beer floats to save money on a huge catering bill. Jim Bob is that backward and immature.
Cattle call, sounds more like a Christian Woodstock.
I read that 3,000 people were invited and 1,000 attended.
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I'm not sure it's physically possible to know 3,000 people. If all 3,000 showed up would either the groom or bride, depending on which side the party is there for, honestly remember each person's name and something about them? Seems doubtful.
Nothing wrong with root beer floats in and of itself, but it's the execution that was so embarrassing. Once the icecream melted it shouldn't have been served. You don't have to spend a lot of money, nor should you, to throw a classy party.
Sleepless In Seattle said... 32
Has the story of Kate's kiss with Steve (one of the twins allegedly seeing it happen) been documented somewhere -- from Jodi and Kevin, or in Robert's book?
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I don't think so, and I'm disinclined to believe it based on that.
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I'm lost. Didn't someone posted this as if it actually happened? Was it redbirdsings?
I need a good Bloody Mary.
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Yeah I'm having a Who's-on-first? moment here myself. A Bloody Mary does sound good right about now.
IIRC it was when Kate took Mady to CA for a short vacay with just the two of them and that's when the story came out that she'd seen mommie kissing the flying monkey.
It doesn't matter if they were kissing or not. What bugs me about it is that the guy didn't need to be the bodyguard for that trip or a lot of other trips with Kate and without Jon being along. TLC employs other security but I think it's a known fact that Kate asked for Steve to escort the family over the others. He was the bodyguard of her choice. If that doesn't put a kink in a marital relationship I don't know what would.
If the shoe was on the other foot and it were Jon always requesting a certain female production assistant (for example) and took off with her for weeks at a time you can bet your ass Kate would have thrown a royal fit.
That marriage was rocky in the first place and Steve was there too often not to cause some testosterone wars to flare up between Jon and him. And I'm sure Kate loved every second of it. She did the same thing to her old boyfriend Adam.
Toni N. @huckles75
@SiobhanR111 @Kateplusmy8 @dowd24 It's pure jeously... the negativity is so frustrating!
Toni N. @huckles75
@GangsterBolshev @Kateplusmy8 The hashtag that you say Kate is "using wrong," is not a rule in the English language. HS Eng teacher here.
JEOUSLY? Seriously? I hope she doesn't teach spelling, or is it an unwritten rule that sheeple must spell it incorrectly?
IIRC it was when Kate took Mady to CA for a short vacay with just the two of them and that's when the story came out that she'd seen mommie kissing the flying monkey.
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I thought it was on a beach vacation in the Carolinas, or someplace where Cara was along.
I don't know. All of these "stories" blend together after awhile.
That is what pregnant women crave and the Duggars are baby makers. Just ridiculous. Jill became pregnant within 30 days.
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So did I, no regrets, and it wasn't at Woodstock, Christian or Pagan! lol!! I didn't crave pickles and ice cream. For me it was spaghetti and garlic bread. To this day, I still don't want to even look at spaghetti. Garlic bread, occasionally
Sherry Baby said... 37
IIRC it was when Kate took Mady to CA for a short vacay with just the two of them and that's when the story came out that she'd seen mommie kissing the flying monkey.
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I thought it was on a beach vacation in the Carolinas, or someplace where Cara was along.
I don't know. All of these "stories" blend together after awhile.
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I don't know why I thought it was a trip to CA. It does all blur into a story that made a few tabloid headlines. I'm too tired to google it.
Want to join Sleepless and me for a Bloody Mary?
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A few are asking who wrote as fact that Mady saw Steve and Kate kissing. I responded that it was just a rumor because Star magazine reported it.
Redbirdsings also wrote in post #196 "There are 2 pictures that I wish that had of been taken. kate and Steve holding hands walking in that hotel lobby that the DJ talked about seeing. kate is wearing that very small red leather jacket. And, the photographer/journalist at the Red Cross banquet that he saw them together, with no one around them, Steve had his arm around her, cozy. Hugh Dillon said he wished he would of thought to have gotten that shot, I don't know what I was thinking! Those pictures would of been the Money Shots. I wonder how TLC would of spun those 2 sows ears into silk purses!"
I personally don't believe those two rumors either.
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OT- for your viewing pleasure ;-), I wanted to recommend HBO's "Olive Kitteridge". It's a 4-part series with Frances McDormand and an amazing cast.
The totally narcissistic character of Olive will have you thinking of Kate a lot!
We're also enjoying "The Paradise", which is for you "Downton Abbey" fans.
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"Olive Kittredge", with Frances McDormand in the title role, is a force. One of HBO's better series and filled with almost perfect casting. I found it hard to watch (depression, suicide) but couldn't turn away - the acting is that great. McDormand is as good in this as she was in "Fargo." I didn't, though, see narcissism in the main character. It's currently playing on HBO and is available on HBO Go.
I also enjoyed "The Paradise" but kept comparing it to Mr. Selfridge, which felt more accurate, and had IMO, better acting. Glad to see that "Bomb Girls" is returning at the end of this month! British television is incredibly good - thank heavens for Netflix! Oh, another good British production and one made for Netflix is "Happy Valley" with the wonderful Sarah Lancashire (also in "The Paradise).
Sleepless
I had Coffee Crisp Bars and Strawberry Milkshakes. I still shudder at the thought. uurrgghhh
franky
Jane....
Bomb girls is returning?
after the wrap up season? Oh, please say it is so
franky
Oh, another good British production and one made for Netflix is "Happy Valley" with the wonderful Sarah Lancashire (also in "The Paradise).
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Also loved her in Last Tango In Halifax. Hope it comes back.
There's a great article in the WaPo about Lisa Kudrow's "The Comeback": Click
It talks about how "The Comeback" was ahead of its time, when there was some semblance of lasting shame, just before the avalanche of reality television.
Franky - Netflix will be showing season 3 of Bomb Girls. It may have already broadcast in the US and Canada but I was late to the table!
Tucker's Mom - Loved "Last Tango in Halifax" and recommend "Getting On" which is returning soon to HBO. For all "The Newsroom" fans , it's back tonight. Oh, how I've missed that speedy, smart Sorkin dialogue.
Wasn't TFW relatively quiet on Twitter last week? All I can
remember other posters mentioning was that she'd tweeted about
her long-awaited hot shower (TMI), and that she was excited
she could finally reveal she was on CA, and a lovey-dovey shout
out to her makeup woman from the show (another person paid to
be nice to her).
When TLC pulled HBB so abruptly, I thought they might scramble
to stick the new K + 8 episodes to fill that time slot. But so far
that doesn't seem to be happening.
At school she also participates in the chorus and Hempfield’s Mini-Thon, and also has performed in the high school's variety show and school assemblies. She also is an active member of the San Juan Bautista Catholic Church chorus, and is employed by Goodwill Industries. She plans to attend college after high school."
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Good for her!
Kate knew this was going to be her charity. She should have visited them this summer. Then she might actually be able to speak about what they do and who they are with some credibility, instead of pulling out one tiny component of the big picture of their program and talking all about that like an idiot.
I've never seen a celeb on CA give to a charity without actually ever having BEEN to that charity.
I hope the RUMORS about K8 and Steve are not true. Mostly because there are a lot of people who will be hurt if it is true. She has eight kids who have watched her trash their father, who has gone through several public relationships (and 'they' lose when the breakups happen too), and Steve has two sons and a wife. They would ALL be very, very hurt if this RUMOR is true. For me, it's not the glee at catching her in yet another lie. That is so expected already, it isn't even funny anymore. She lies with ease. It's the pain it would cause so many others.
Just saw the latest Duggar show preview & it's the rip-roaring fun of watching the married son, his wife & kids in an RV on a road trip. Oh no! The RV breaks down! Will Duggar son be able to fix it & get the trip back on the road? TLC continues to recycle the same crappy scenarios - no original "storylines" allowed...although since they are Duggars, I'm guessing there will be lots of shots of babies crying rather than adult melt-downs over pizza being passed with bare hands.
Lisa Adcox @poorbabi 2h2 hours ago
@Laceylove03 @PuffX6 @jongosselin @Kateplusmy8 Kate is raising your kids Jon with no financial support from U.Where did the Jon go we loved
Lisa Adcox @poorbabi 40m40 minutes ago
@popems42 @Laceylove03 @PuffX6 @jongosselin @Kateplusmy8 she traded because he was not paying and she needed money to support 8 kids.
Why do these people accept this as gospel and run with it? This was never proven, nor confirmed by either one of them. It was a theory that someone came up with and sheeple and the media reported it as fact.
From Star magazine, June 2009:
"Kate Gosselin was caught kissing her bodyguard, Steve Neild, by her daughter Mady. While on vacation, Kate thought the kids were asleep, and she and Steve were talking in her bedroom. Mady came to the door and saw them "share a quick, gentle kiss." Mady started crying and ran to tell her sister, Cara. According to the mag, "It was far too much for a child of 8 to process."
This was when TFW was in NC with the kids (during the kitchen remodel?) end of May 2009.
Kate tweeted last night:
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8
Whoo,what a day! I'm thrilled &shocked to say I survived it! GN! ��My pillows look better than ever right now!�� MomsYouveHadThoseDaysToo
Apparently she went to bed early. Someone tweeted to her:
Amy Kelly @kamy1389 13h13 hours ago
@Kateplusmy8 My oldest has cancer, and I have one year old twins. Hubby is in the military so I'm alone a lot. I have many of those days!!
I took a look at this person's timeline. Kate should, too, and be ashamed to constantly tweet how exhausted she is and how much she likes her bed (and pillow). She just doesn't get it.
I don't know what's going on with Steve but I don't think "it came from tabloid trash" means it must be wrong. Who knows. Remember tabloid trash has broken some big stories, correctly, including the John Edwards affair.
But I think even the APPEARANCE of impropriety would be plenty enough for any man with any decency to get out. Just because you are not actually having affair does not mean your relationship is disrespectful to your wife and family. Just because your wife and family may be "fine with it" does not mean you are not disrespecting them.
I pretty much wrote him off when he let pizza gate escalate. A decent man would have stepped up and said, Hey Kate, it's no big deal. I will find something else to eat. Mady can have my pizza. He did not.
Instead he let Kate take up for him over her own child, and that's pathetic.
Are they or aren't they having an affair? Who knows? I kind of think it's more of an emotional affair on her part because after all this time someone would have gotten a picture of them together. No one is that careful. I don't think Jon even knows for sure. Maybe he's her Svengali.
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Lisa Adcox @poorbabi 2h2 hours ago
@Laceylove03 @PuffX6 @jongosselin @Kateplusmy8 Kate is raising your kids Jon with no financial support from U.Where did the Jon go we loved
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I wonder if they believe Kate gave Jon a big ole allowance to take care of all the children for three weeks while she was doing CA, and the other times he has had them. Did anyone see her hand Jon a couple hundred bucks at the garage sale when he left with the kids, for his allowance for the kids? lol.
"she traded [filming for child support] because he was not paying and she needed money to support 8 kids."
First of all Kate has never stopped saying she wants to film them so how did they make sense? It's not like she ever said I don't need to film them anymore Jon pays support, and then when the support stopped she suddenly wanted to film again! She's never stopped.
Second of all, utter nonsense. Jon is working in the service industry for bonafide restaurants/bars. He is getting a paycheck that I imagine takes out taxes and all the other normal things taken out of paychecks. If he is not paying his court ordered child support, the state of PA can and will garnish his wages. It's not like Jon can just say sorry I'm not paying support, and that's the end of it. If that were the case there would be a lot more mothers out there with starving children. So Kate could get her support from him, directly from his paychecks, IF a judge has decided he owes anything. In PA I believe they can even send you to jail for not paying. The most logical explanation for why he may not pay child support is that he has gotten more time with the kids. More time, less support. IF the time becomes so great the calculations reach zero, no more support. Too bad so sad. If I recall correctly PA does not require a perfectly even split in time before your support goes down to zero. That has always been and always will be the most logical explanation. I'm not sure they understand that child support is a complex calculation with one of the biggest factor being your custodial time.
Jon said very clearly, I support the kids on my time, she does on hers. You could even see he had a whole bunch of separate clothes and shoes for them, jackets, etc. We have no idea what they've worked out for school, medical, etc., but I don't recall Kate claiming she pays in full for all that.
The problem is the sheep just do not know exactly who is responsible for what expenses. They have always assumed he pays nothing for these kids, without having any clue who pays their various bills, or any understanding of the fact that when they are with him, HE pays for them. That IS supporting them just like Kate supports them on HER time. They don't seem to grasp this is the same side of the coin. If you're going to say she supports them because they are with her, you can't turn around and say he doesn't support them when they are with him. It makes no sense.
Admin said...48
I've never seen a celeb on CA give to a charity without actually ever having BEEN to that charity.
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Admin, you could be right. kate did a speaking engagement at a fundraiser for Camp Barnabas and it was not at the Camp. It was at the Remington’s Entertainment Complex in Springfield, MO in May of 2012. They raised 32,000.00. I wonder if she was paid by the event, or who paid for it? There is no way she is going to go to an event to speak without getting a check.
I went to google images and googled kate Gosselin at Camp Barnabas and the very first picture to the far left is a small picture that she has on twitter. Then down a line or two there is a picture of a very young man in a wheelchair crippled being helped with a young lady from the camp. Right next to him is kate. The picture of her in her boots, with her hands holding her chin, blue jeans, mustard puffy jacket on the steps of her front porch. With a big smile on her face showing those veneers. Like everything in life is great. No worries!
Then the video where she said those awful things about having to parent children like that, she said, MY kids will go to college, you (the twin interviewers) will go to college. IMO, she meant that MY kids and you will be productive in college and life, they can't. They are a burden to society. Praise the Lord, many kids that are special needs have employment, participate in events, go to school, college and live on their own, get married.
Here is a picture of kate at the event:
https://twitter.com/#!/LEIGHSHAHAN1/status/198883045615476736/photo/1
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8
Whoo,what a day! I'm thrilled &shocked to say I survived it! GN! ��My pillows look better than ever right now!�� MomsYouveHadThoseDaysToo
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I HATE when she plays the "all moms get what I'm going through I'm just like all moms" card. It's so obnoxious.
I wonder if her exhausted day was because of couch interviews. They have to do those sometimes. Newsflash, that's not what all moms are doing or even most moms.
Or maybe she had to cart some kids to sports or friends like a typical mom of 14 and 10 year olds. Poor thing. Don't like it don't have kids.
As far as we know her one and only contact with this charity was at that speaking engagement in 2012, which she has never claimed was unpaid.
She has never claimed to have any other contacts with them. In fact when interviewed, she only talked about meeting some kids at the speaking engagement. She never mentioned actually seeing the camp. No other contact was ever claimed by her.
The red flag was when all the pictures of the camp never included her. Other celebs are usually in the photos of their charity.
Just saw the latest Duggar show preview & it's the rip-roaring fun of watching the married son, his wife & kids in an RV on a road trip. Oh no! The RV breaks down!
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Ugh. I find the format of that show and other ones like it to be so annoying. The Little People, Little Couple and Kate Plus 8 all share the same format.
And yet when I'm flipping through I can't help myself, I'll watch a few minutes. Cringing the whole time. At least it's only a few minutes. Sort of like your great aunt giving a drunken speech at the wedding. You hate every second of it, but it's not like you're about to walk out of the room. You kinda want to hear it.
"My pillows look better than ever right now" -- AuntieAnn, don't
leave that (or "those") hanging...
Does TFW realize that DADS have those days, too? The whole
mom/girl power kick is quite obnoxious. She's raising 3 boys, too.
Is it ever about boys/men? Or are men only of value when they're
Mr. Tow Truck Man, or Mr. Vacuum Repair Man?
Does TFW realize that DADS have those days, too?
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Dads. Or parents. Or grandparents. Or legal guardians. Or foster parents.
Or people. We all can have terribly busy days where we are running around like crazy and are exhausted. There is this weird ownership of "exhausted" that SOME (not all) Mommy bloggers have taken on that's rather insulting, as if nobody else could possibly work as hard or be as exhausted as them unless you too are a mommy.
If your life is constantly like that, you might want to consider cutting down on the family's activities. Or asking for help from close friends and family. It's amazing how helpful it can be to have an extra pair of hands. Or figuring out if there is a way to be better organized so you don't end each and every single day wiping yourself up off the floor. Or consider not having eight kids if that's too much for you.
Kate's twitter fans/sheep only seem to think that Jon has to give money to in-order to take care of the kids.
Yes money is important-(duh)-but there's more ways to care for your children such as
Emotionally being their when they need you. Comforting them supporting their wants and needs spending time with them.
Sure money is nice to have but kids need more than money to survive.
They are overly preoccupied with finances and dollars in dollars out, who paid what dollar, who's on first.
They don't think it through when they make broad statements about who is or is not "supporting" their children.
By that logic, does a stay at home mom who never brings in a dollar of income to the family not support her children? Yeah I didn't think so.
The children called him to come to their yard sale because they wanted his emotional support, not his money.
The children called him to come to their yard sale because they wanted his emotional support, not his money.
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And them seem to want to see him and spend time with him and have fun with him.
So Jon spent gas money and spent $20 to see them.
I highly recommend The Comeback, and I am so excited it is coming back with a new season. Lisa Kudrow is pitch perfect in this role. As WAPO article said, it is extremely awkward. The character was a former sitcom star, that never worked again when it was cancelled. The first season chronicled her as she competed against several other washed up stars to star in a new sitcom, while simultaneously filming a reality show. She is repeatedly humiliated by the callous director of the sitcom, while her part is reduced to nothing, in order to let the hot young stars have bigger roles.
What makes it so heartbreaking is that, through it all, she maintains the kind of professionalism that we never see from TFW. It is that combination of desperation and professionalism that keeps her going, even as she is set up for failure time and time again.
Although most look at Valerie as a joke, there is also acknowledgement of her role in popular culture when she starred in the sitcom "I'm It", in which she displayed a lot of comic talent and timing. What is puzzling about TFW's come back, is that there is no history or hint of any actual talent. And, to boot, a complete lack of regard for anyone else, and a very nasty disposition.
Jane said... 46
Tucker's Mom - Loved "Last Tango in Halifax" and recommend "Getting On" which is returning soon to HBO. For all "The Newsroom" fans , it's back tonight. Oh, how I've missed that speedy, smart Sorkin dialogue.
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Wow, I'm so hooked on "Getting On" from the first episode.
Being in healthcare, the feel of the show is BANG on, and the archetypal lead characters help to convey the real essence of the (oft times) shit sandwich that is the rehab/extended care/transitional care unit, with all the constituents rubbing up painfully against one another in the stale air and florescent lighting.
Yet, the humor and humanity is stingily doled out for maximum effect, to keep me binging through episode 5 (had me in stitches!), and sad that only one more episode remains in the first season.
Admin 59-
As far as we know her one and only contact with this charity was at that speaking engagement in 2012, which she has never claimed was unpaid.
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I think she has been trying to get on CA for a very long time, and DT finally picked her. Thus, she may have put this on her most recent app or whatever when she requested to be on the show, since her appearance was more recent. All her other appearances for "charities" happened long ago, and were filmed or photographed and she no longer has anything to do with them (or they her- LOL). Remember the "blanket" Red Cross disaster.
Just saw the latest Duggar show preview & it's the rip-roaring fun of watching the married son, his wife & kids in an RV on a road trip. Oh no! The RV breaks down!
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Not to mention, this is an almost exact duplicate of an earlier 14 (or 15) Kids & Counting episode, where the Duggar parents load their kids into their old RV and head out on a trip, and what do you know? The RV breaks down and Grandpa Duggar had to come to their rescue. His reward -- being showcased in his last illness, pushed around in an office chair, and having his funeral filmed for "entertainment."
Well, TLC is recycling. Give them a round of applause.
The picture of her in her boots, with her hands holding her chin, blue jeans, mustard puffy jacket on the steps of her front porch. With a big smile on her face showing those veneers. Like everything in life is great. No worries!
http://www.mcall.com/entertainment/tv-watchers/mc-kate-gosselin-to-be-on-celebrity-apprentice-in-january-20141104-story.html
This one? Why is there a yellow bull at the bottom right of the photo?
The problem is the sheep just do not know exactly who is responsible for what expenses. They have always assumed he pays nothing for these kids, without having any clue who pays their various bills, or any understanding of the fact that when they are with him, HE pays for them. That IS supporting them just like Kate supports them on HER time. They don't seem to grasp this is the same side of the coin. If you're going to say she supports them because they are with her, you can't turn around and say he doesn't support them when they are with him. It makes no sense.
If you're a sheeple, what does make sense? They can't figure out the whole child support thing without jumping right in and saying that he's a deadbeat, unemployed, homeless father. I wonder why that is. I really doubt that all of them are that stupid...or are they? Maybe some of them really do have some kind of logical thinking ability, but they're afraid that if they point out the inconsistencies in the comments of some of the flock that they'll be shunned. They couldn't have that, now could they? So they just go along with group thinking (if you can call it that) because that's the position all of them are going to take.
All This Is That said... 70
I went back and checked and you are right. There is a bullyville logo on it. I didn't click on it before, if I had of I would of seen it.
She should be ashamed of herself talking about handicapped children and having to parent them for years on end. The tweet she tweet about being tired, bed and pillow and how she survived the day, just makes me sick. She has 8 healthy kids. Stupid moron.
This poor young mother who tweeted her whose husband is in the military, probably overseas, older child has cancer and 2 1 yr. old twins, my heart goes out to her! I hope she has some support to help her!
She's the HERO, kate is a HUGE ZERO!
Ooops! For being such a big supporter of Camp Barnabas she doesn't follow it on twitter. She follows 82 people/things and @capbarnabas isn't one of them. If she truly supported the charity she'd be following it and would re-tweet events or fundraisers that they have. #epicfailonherpart I'm going to put on my Milo rhyming hat and say now that we've pointed out that she's not following them: "Let's see if she will soon be following 83 :)" (I think the smiley face is obligatory in a Milo tweet when she goes in far a little dig.)
I've just finished watching the first season of Getting On and must say that I really enjoyed it. I'm looking forward to season 2. I'm now watching Olive Kitteridge. I love the new HBO Go app.
I went back and checked and you are right. There is a bullyville logo on it. I didn't click on it before, if I had of I would of seen it.
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I wonder if they just swiped it from BV. If so, does BV know about this? Somebody new for them to take down. Stealing is stealing and those who steal should be bullied into submission, no?
Ooops! For being such a big supporter of Camp Barnabas she doesn't follow it on twitter. She follows 82 people/things and @capbarnabas isn't one of them. If she truly supported the charity she'd be following it and would re-tweet events or fundraisers that they have. #epicfailonherpart
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She's had TWO YEARS to spread the word about this wonderful charity, encourage her followers to donate, keep people in the loop about what they're up to. And most of all, VISIT THEM.
Nothing. I've never seen such a disingenuous celeb.
Nothing. I've never seen such a disingenuous celeb. 75
Disingenuous is one of the nicest words you could use.
OT. Since I don't tweet, you folks will have to suffer my tmi.
Had to take poor Roo to Petco to get deskunked.
Bless them it worked. Her collar is in the wash. Lots of laundry in my one machine
May I add, kudos to extra strength Febreze.
Kate saw a movie and fist "pumped" it.
animalabuseneverwins @bitemeaholesFU 17m17 minutes ago
@Kateplusmy8 BTW kate you ignorant slut. It's fist bump not fist pump. You are confusing what u do do Steve, lol. U fist pump him. Got it
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Gosh, am I stupid. I thought it's fist pump, too. I guess I'm really out of it, huh? lol!
Gosh, am I stupid. I thought it's fist pump, too. I guess I'm really out of it, huh? lol!
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Hehe. It's both. Fist pump is when you raise your fist in the air and "pump" it and fist bump is like a high five only with fists.
I am still an ignorant slut however when it comes to this Miranda chick.
I didn't see her tweet, but did TFW take her kids to the movies?
I didn't see anything about it on the news, so I guess there was
not the unmitigated chaos and bedlam that she insists follow her
wherever she goes when she's with her children. She has 8,
you know.
She has 8, you know.
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Flimsy I giggle every time you write that :)
"When TLC pulled HBB so abruptly, I thought they might scramble
to stick the new K + 8 episodes to fill that time slot. But so far
that doesn't seem to be happening."
I don't know if it's a replacement, but Little Couple comes back December 2.
Rhymes with Witch said... 77
May I add, kudos to extra strength Febreze.
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Be careful with it around pets. I'm not sure if it's safe to be sprayed around dogs and cats, but it is toxic to birds, even though the company swears it's safe. I've know a few cases where it has actually killed parrots.
(Leslie)]
Correction to Post #40
I forgot to write that it was Redbirdsinging that original wrote as fact that Mady saw Steve and Kate kissing. I responded that it was Star magazine that wrote the story and I considered it as rumor only.
Flimsy Flamsy said...80
You are right. Can you imagine all the chaos and bedlam that she would love to claim happened when Jon kept ALL of them for 3 weeks straight? So sorry, kate! There. Wasn't. Any!
And, the new governor didn't have to deploy the National Guard.
Rhymes with Witch said... 76
Nothing. I've never seen such a disingenuous celeb. 75
Disingenuous is one of the nicest words you could use.
OT. Since I don't tweet, you folks will have to suffer my tmi.
Had to take poor Roo to Petco to get deskunked.
Bless them it worked. Her collar is in the wash. Lots of laundry in my one machine
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My dog got skunked about two months ago! Holy God that smells! Of course Petsmart was closed so no Skunk remover to be had.Pet Smart did get her smelling better the next day. Be warned, though, every time she gets wet the smell comes back. It goes away once she dries though. They said this will happen for SIX months!!
Ugh, skunking is the worst! My dog got skunked at 11 o'clock at night so there was no vet open. Google said mix hydrogen peroxide, baking soda and Dawn soap, I happened to have all three ingredients on hand. Totally worked really cut the smell in half. I did another bath the next day and a final one the next day and it was gone. Miracle cure.
Another friend of mine had their dog skunked and they said their vet told them the de-skunker they market contains the same ingredients.
Another friend of mine had their dog skunked and they said their vet told them the de-skunker they market contains the same ingredients.
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I used the tomato juice I was saving for the Bloody Marys. It totally worked...only one application.
If I may be cynical for a moment...I wonder if TFW took the kids to
the movies this weekend to deflect from Jon admitting he'd had the
kids for 3 weeks when she did CA. You know she must've been
livid about that interview. How dare he try to make a liar out of
her, when she claims she does 99% of the parenting?
(Leslie)
I have another view to refute the claim Jon is not supporting his kids. We all know govt. funds when the kids were babies, donations from the public, and money from his father (Jon's future inheritance) supported these kids when they where in the first years of their lives. Also Jon and Kate both worked a little too. Of course TLC funds trump most of the others because the great majority of their support came from TLC filming them since 2006.
The millions (yes millions) that BOTH Jon and Kate earned filming Jon & Kate Plus 8 is enough money for the kids to be supported in the past and present. Jon was part of that filming that earned the millions to support them. And we know that when the divorce settlement was done, a good portion of Jon's part of the settlement went into a special fund that he could NOT touch. These funds were to pay the $21,000 a month in support to his kids. (This is documented on Nancy Grace program by an attorney.) No, we don't know how long he paid those funds. But let's say he paid only 5 months, hell that is over $100,000 in support he has paid for those kids out of HIS OWN PERSONAL MONEY from the settlement.
So I call bullshit that Jon hasn't supported his kids. With the money he earned working for the governor in IT, earning millions Jon and Kate plus 8, and his child support of $21,000 per month from the settlement is a hell of a lot of support from Jon. Also I think a half million or million was earned from Multiple Blessings and Jon was part of that book verifie by his name on the cover. Plus he did pay some child support when the filming ended and he was working different jobs approx. 2010 thru 2013 too. There are records of this because somebody reported they signed on to the website and saw he was behind a few hundred or a few thousands about a year or 2 ago. So in addition to the above monies he also paid thousands in child support before it came out a year or two ago that he no longer pays any money.
So Jon has paid a ton of child support. He needs to add all these sums together and get a true figure. For instance, Jon knows how much he paid in $21,000 months of support. And he knows all the other figures of income I listed above. He needs to tell the media this and stop saying that he does not pay any support. If Kate can claim SHE supports her kids from filming then so can Jon.
Jon needs to knows these sums of monies well , and when the time comes sit down with all his kids and show them with written proof the million plus he has paid over their lives to support them. And yes, again, he needs to let the media know.
I am sick of this SHIT from Kate claiming she is the hero Mother supporting her kids.
(Leslie)
This is to add to my previous post, Jon needs to add to the list of support ALL of the money he has spent in support when the kids come to visit him over the years. Yes, that is support. Take that ex Mrs. Jon Gosselin.
Fist pump (YO! What we do in Jersey) or fist bump, does it really matte? An honest mistake and its not really worth the name calling. Although I do think it's a fist bump in the movie.
"After Hiro teaches Baymax how to fist bump, Baymax interprets the sound Hiro makes as "Bata-lata-la." He proceeds to do this every time he makes a fist bump."
Leslie I've always thought that. If a dime of what KATE "supports" her kids with is form work THEY did, which we're sure is exactly what is happening, half of that credit is Jon's as those kids are half his.
She can't work the kids, use that money to support them, then claim it's HER supporting them. Those kids are his kids too. If you're going to say their money can be used by the parents to support them, then credit for support should go to BOTH parents.
Of course all the credit should go to the kids, but that's not how sheeple logic works. They say the credit goes all to Kate who "supports" them. No she doesn't. At most, HALF the credit for support goes to her.
Honest mistake and its not really worth the name calling. Although I do think it's a fist bump in the movie.
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It doesn't matter and it is an honest mistake. Apparently it is fist BUMP though, not pump, in this movie.
But this mistake does make her look like she's trying SO hard to be one of the kids, which I find funny but sad. You're not one of the kids, so stop it just stop. Neither are you one of the teens.
It's okay to admit you're out of the loop with young people. Most people her age are and much younger. Young people don't WANT Mom to be just like one of their friends anyway. They want you to be mom and act your age. If they wanted another teen or pre teen friend they could find one. They want YOU.
(Leslie)
Amen, Admin. you are supporting my point exactly. I wish you would contact Jon and see if he agrees with this. Tell him he needs to go back and document this. If not for the media, he needs to have these facts supported when he sits down with his children.
It is horrible that Kate is telling the kids and the whole nation repeatedly that there Dad is not supporting them and she is their hero.
Also, if Jon does sit down with the media, then he also needs to alert them to these facts. The fact is Kate has earned milllions more from Kate Plus 8 when she was earning $250,000 reported by a very, very trusted magazine TV Guide. Add up the hour episodes times the $250,000. Plus she earned $500,000 from DWTS. Plus she earned more money from her other books.
My point in this is Kate does NOT need to be filming these kids anymore to support them. The general public thinks she NEEDS to be filming these kids because there is no money...especially NOW because poor ole Dad does not support them at all. Jon needs to add up all of Kate's millions and let the media know how much money she has now. Wow, even Geraldo, a very learned media man, thinks he would have had a hard time firing Kate because of her 8 kids to support. Holy Cow, this woman is a multi-millionaire doing NOTHING but filming her kids.
I swear Jon needs to find a reputable tv program that will allow him 20 minutes or so to present all these facts. And all these facts need to be back with documentation that he can provide. Hell, list these sources of his proof of child support on a board so it is easily seen. Make sure his facts are correct so Kate can't come back and dispute it. Have an attorney or rep. sit down with him if he can't present this simply and factually.
No, I don't think it is ideal for Jon to go to the media but I think at this point it is necessary. Kate started all this in the media not Jon. His reputation is being ruined. And the kids are getting to the age very soon where they can understand all of this. If Jon doesn't do anything, then his kids are going to believe the lies and be embarrassed to think their Dad is a complete deadbeat that didn't support them.
And while Jon is at it, he needs to get that tweet of Kate stating that it worked best for her family when she was away "working" (giving interivews and talks) for a week and back at home a week. She had 8 small kids under 10 years old at that time. She said it worked BEST for her family. Not that she HAD to be away from her kids to provide for them. Because she did not.
Gosh, am I stupid. I thought it's fist pump, too. I guess I'm really out of it, huh? lol!
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LOL it is pump but then again it depends on how you use pump and dump.
Yes, Leslie (#91), why is it that Jon isn't entitled to credit for his
expenses when the kids are in his care? The 8 kids eat 24 meals
a day. Multiplied by 3 weeks, that's 504 meals he provided. Do
the fans think the Food Fairy flew over his house and dropped
all those meals off? Or, deadbeat dad that he is, that maybe he
just put a trough of bargain cereal out back and let them graze
on that, while he splurged on booze and women?
(Leslei)
FlimsyFlamsy #97
Why are you attacking me? I am supporting Jon with all my posts. Please read post # 91 where I specifically state that he pays lots of money when his kids visit him for the past many years since the divorce. Of course this is Jon supporting his kids.
Yes, Leslie (#91), why is it that Jon isn't entitled to credit for his
expenses when the kids are in his care? The 8 kids eat 24 meals
a day. Multiplied by 3 weeks, that's 504 meals he provided. Do
the fans think the Food Fairy flew over his house and dropped
all those meals off?
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I remember when he was talking about how much shrimp the kids packed away. He didn't say it in a way that suggested he resented it or complained about it. Just sort of like a normal parent amazed reaction, whoa I cannot believe my kids and the way they eat!
Unless Kate gave him an allowance to buy those shrimp, I assume he is supporting the kids.
Leslie (#98), I wasn't attacking you - I was agreeing with you 100%!
(Leslie)
#100 Oh, Sorry then!!!!!!!!!!!(a tribute to "Kate The Money Hero" who is really a ZERO.) Ha, I love that thanks to the previous poster.
Guys this is why I said her sheep only think that monetarily is the only way that they think Jon should support the kid.
I mean forget food clothes forget shelter forget love forget emotional support the sheep what Jon to give Kate money and if he doesn't he's a deadbeat to them.
Just like their queen all the sheep see is money and nothing else.
LOL maybe the sheep think the kids don't eat or drink or wear clothes when with Jon.
I bet they think their queen is only capable of feeding clothing bathing the kids and not dad.
I don't think that it's admin's job to contact Jon and tell him what he should or shouldn't do. In fact, it is up to him how much of this he wants to make public -- to set the record straight. Remember that once you start the ball rolling on any of this and the more you say, the more open to criticism you find yourself. It can go on and on and on. He will never have the last word, and I would think that by now he knows that. No matter what he says in the media, and even if he dispels rumors about child support, those who hate him will always hate him, and the sheeple will claim that he is lying. Setting the record straight in the media serves no purpose. He does not need to go on television, nor does he need an attorney to present the facts.As long as the children know exactly what he does for them, that's what is important. We all know what happens when the media latches on to something; it would be distorted, and amount to nothing more than a game of whisper down the lane.
Apparently there are some tweets going back and forth with the new sheeple (the AP English teacher) who couldn't spell "jealous." Just for the fun of it, I looked at her profile, which mentions that she writes poetry. I took the bait and looked at one of her poems. Not only can't she spell "jealous," but she wrote the following:
"She haunts you...chains you down with
baded breath and raised brow."
Baded breath? LOL! Is that the past tense of bad breath?
I'm always suspicious of these "teachers" who can't spell and whose grammar is atrocious!
I'm glad I don't have Twitter.
Do the fans think the Food Fairy flew over his house and dropped
all those meals off?
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Maybe Steve flew by every night with pizza-in-foil.
**I swear Jon needs to find a reputable tv program that will allow him 20 minutes or so to present all these facts. And all these facts need to be back with documentation that he can provide. Hell, list these sources of his proof of child support on a board so it is easily seen. Make sure his facts are correct so Kate can't come back and dispute it. Have an attorney or rep. sit down with him if he can't present this simply and factually.**
Why? Other than a small group of people, nobody really cares any more. Kate isn't the media darling she once was. She didn't promote her yard sale on the View or GM America, she promoted it on a local radio station. While we all agree that Jon pays during his custody time what would he gain by going to the media and whining that TFW is being a bully and saying mean things about him. The fans will believe what they want to believe no matter what anyone says.
Sleepless In Seattle said... 105
Do the fans think the Food Fairy flew over his house and dropped
all those meals off?
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Maybe Steve flew by every night with pizza-in-foil.
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Nah the flying monkey doesn't share his pizza remember.
Kate did NOT make $500,000 on DWTS.
The Hollywood Reporter states: each star makes an initial $125,000 for signing, three weeks of rehearsal before the premiere and competing in the first two episodes, even if the cast member is cut after the first dance.
The breakdown for the remaining weeks is $10,000 an episode for Weeks 3 and 4, $20,000 an episode for Weeks 5 and 6, $30,000 an episode for Weeks 7 and 8, and $50,000 an episode for the final two weeks.
So she made the equivalent of a couple years of all her kids at private school.
(Leslie)
Post #106
I don't care what her "fans" think or her "haters" think. I think those people fall under a few hundred or thousands at best..Those fans and haters who would never be persuaded. I am not interested in Jon reaching those nuts. But she does have enough interest in her and the kids to garner over a million in viewers turning in to her show repeatedly. And the media is still interested in her even though it has dropped greatly.
Even Barbara Walters on the VIiew (another million(s) viewers) asked Jon if he paid child support. Why? Because it is known throughout the nation that he doesn't. And I think the majority--not her fans and haters-- needs to be informed.
And if Jon does do media, he needs to present the facts without any emotion or negativity towards Kate. That is why I think someone needs to be with him that can present this professionally. The worst thing he could do is go on TV and have an interview where he attacks Kate in any way. He needs to talk about himself and how he supports his kids. Forgot what I said about presenting Kate's tweet about how she loves to spend 50% of her time away from her kids. No attacking just present the truth. And also present the truth about Kate's millions and her NOT NEEDING to film HIS children. That is not attacking but presenting the truth.
I think time has come. And great time would be right before TLC does her TLC specials and CA comes on.
And again, even if he does not do any media, he needs to collect these facts NOW. So he can show his kids with documents how he has supported them.
(Leslie)
The black woman with short hair on E channel (don't know her name) who interviewed Jon seemed to like him a lot. In fact, if I recall, she seemed to tweet that Jon discussed money and his kids and she believed him. But that never aired.
Perhaps he could contact her and explain the situation. And he could get some good airtime to explain his support of his kids.
Yes, kate thinks she's a hero, but she is really a zero!
Flimsy Flamsy, I knew you were backing Leslie/Anon 100%, and I do to! I totally agree, this would be the perfect time for Jon to set the record straight. kate seems to do that all the time, but her record is scratched!
I remember when my ex only paid the first 4 months of CS and completely stopped. About 2 years later, I received a letter saying that the place where we had borrowed money was in a class action lawsuit and had to sign the paper and send it in before the deadline. I had 2 of them and they were in my ex's name. It was going to be 400 dollars, signed his name, sent them in and I told myself, I need this money so bad and if he ever finds out about it, I will give him credit for it in the arrears for CS.
I had completely forgot that I was suppose to get a check minus attorney fees until one day, when I really, really needed money for basics, I got 2 checks for 97 dollars each. Even though it was half, I was happy. He still doesn't know about it. Oh, well.
(Leslie)
Whether Kate earned approx. $135,000 or $500,000 on DWTS is not important becaused she earned millions in the past ten years. And I forgot all the money in endorsements both JON and Kate earned while they were married. Half of those endorsements are probably sitting in Kate's home. You know, the appliances and furniture to start with. That is support for the kids.
But I personally think both DWTS and CA probably don't have a sign on fee that goes across the board. Kate was at her absolute highest in demand and in the media when DWTS and Kate Plus 8 started. She was smeared all over the place like nobody else. I think she was on three People covers in a year's time. In fact Kate said and for once I believe her, that DWTS wanted her on the previous year. So they may have paid her huge money to come on at that time. None of us really know. So I somewhat believe she MAY have been paid $500,000. I looked it and it many, many news article also state this figure.
But again, we can forgot her salary on DWTS because of all the other monies she has earned.
De-Skunking....
One of my cats got sprayed. Poor guy ran home throwing himself on the ground trying to rub it off. I took him into the bathroom after I ran a warm bath...put him in the tub and rubbed tomato juice and tomato soup( no water added just the paste) on him. Rinsed him off with warm water. He never fought me...It was like he knew I was helping him. He had no skunk smell left when I was done.
I know Myth Busters tried this and said it failed...it didn't fail with me.
My kitty was a happy camper and has never tried to play with another black and white kitty again.
But she does have enough interest in her and the kids to garner over a million in viewers turning in to her show repeatedly. And the media is still interested in her even though it has dropped greatly.
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I'm not following this. So if Jon speaks out with the truth about how he financially provides for his children, she won't have as many viewers? Kate will always be their queen, no matter what he says or does.Sorry, but I just don't see why he should speak out or if anything positive could come out of it. Quite honestly, I don't think that anyone other than a few sheeple really care about her. There's just not enough interest there to generate any kind of media coverage on whether he pays child support. That issue is very low on the radar of most people, and most likely non-existent.
Why? Other than a small group of people, nobody really cares any more. Kate isn't the media darling she once was. She didn't promote her yard sale on the View or GM America, she promoted it on a local radio station.
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Yes and I've also noticed since RH's book came out we haven't been blessed with that blinding veneer smile of hers on any of those talk shows. I'll bet she can't get away with answering only questions approved by her anymore. She knows darn well they'll ask about it.
Yes and I've also noticed since RH's book came out we haven't been blessed with that blinding veneer smile of hers on any of those talk shows. I'll bet she can't get away with answering only questions approved by her anymore. She knows darn well they'll ask about it.
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I think the biggest factor here is shelf life. She is long past due, expired. And she's famous at a time when shelf lives are shorter than ever.
Sure she'll manage a few blurbs on Radar now and again and maybe even a stint or two on some random D lister reality show like Celebrity Apprentice. But her heyday is over. It's long over. The interest will never be there except from a very small group of people, like our group and the sheeple. And it's not coming back. Shouldn't this scare any normal person into finally getting a real job?
Thank you rainbowsandunicorns, my point exactly. As we've said in the past, people will watch her specials or they won't. I will watch CA in spite of TFW being on. I've watched every season and won't deprive myself of my guilty pleasure just because she's on.
(Leslie) Post #114 Rainbows
I'm not following this. So if Jon speaks out with the truth about how he financially provides for his children, she won't have as many viewers?___________________________
Sorry you are not following this. Jon speaking out is NOT to affect her viewership. That is not the point at all. Rainbows stated, "I don't think that anyone other than a few sheeple really care about her.There's just not enough interest there to generate any kind of media coverage on whether he pays child support. That issue is very low on the radar of most people, and most likely non-existent." I disagree with this.
At least a million will tune in to see Kate Plus 8 in Dec.several times and several million will probably see Kate talk about her kids on CA in Jan. and Feb. So I think there is enough interest in the Gosselins. Also GMA had her on to promote Kate Plus 8 last time and I think a few other may have too.
Who gives a damn about the dumb sheeple and her idiot tweeters. Those people are nuts and will not believe a thing anyway. My point was not for Jon to reach those nuts. But a great deal of America believe that Kate MUST film her EIGHT KIDS because their father does not support them. That is a lie. He does support now and always has and she does not need to be filming HIS kids anymore.because is a multi-millionaire.
(Leslie)
"The interest will never be there except from a very small group of people, like our group and the sheeple. And it's not coming back. Shouldn't this scare any normal person into finally getting a real job?"
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Well, if this is true and only our group and sheeple are interested in her than why is CA and TLC giving her airtime? And TLC is apparently giving her a few shows. And we know a million (I think) turned into her show last time.
You know that I agree with you that Kate should not film the kids anymore and get a stable, "9 to 5" per say job. But she isn't going to do it. And she probably does make more money filming than working a "regular" job. But don't get me wrong, she needs to stop with the filming. She could live very comfortably with her savings and a regular paycheck. But I expect to see the Gosselins on TLC or elsewhere all through their teen years, engagements and marriages. I hope I am wrong. Man that pains me to write that.
Shouldn't this scare any normal person into finally getting a real job?
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Normal person, yes. Kate Gosselin, no. She's still convinced she can't go back. Once a star always a star.
Does anyone know how long it takes to deflate a narcissist's ego? Has it ever been done? I'm curious. lol
I don't think Jon should go to the media about supporting his kids. Kids usually have a way of figuring out who was really there for them and who wasn't.
My son's dad is exactly the deadbeat father that Kate is always crowing on about. Doesn't pay court ordered support. Asks to see DS about once every 2 or so years and always coupled with some ridiculous demand that he know I will say no to so that I can look like the bad guy (ex. He hadn't seen our son in 2 years and said the only way he could see DS is if DS spent the entire summer with him. I obviously said no, so he told DS that he would LOVE to see him but mom said no.)
I can handle this situation a couple of ways. Since he loves to throw me under the bus (like Kate does to Jon), I could get up on my soap box (like if Jon were to go on TV) and tell DS about how much I do for him. Another approach is to allow DS to come to his own conclusions about who did what in regards to raising him. I'm here every day of his life taking him to practice, playing board games, going to school plays, and showing him unconditional love. He sees that. He isn't much older than the tups, and he's questioning the things his father has said about me because he sees they're not true.
Public opinion (mostly) doesn't matter. What matters is those children see what each of those parents are and aren't doing for them. I understand that it's probably hard for him not to at least want to go on TV to "set the record straight," but I don't think it's best for the kids. If they haven't already, they will soon start putting the pieces together on their own and they certainly don't need both of their parents fighting in the media.
rainbowsandunicorns said... 114
Sorry, but I just don't see why he should speak out or if anything positive could come out of it.
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I wrote a whole long reply before I saw this. You summed up my long winded post in a single sentence.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 116
The interest will never be there except from a very small group of people, like our group and the sheeple.
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Wasn't it just a week or two ago everyone was claiming how tired of Kate they were?
AuntieAnn said...
Does anyone know how long it takes to deflate a narcissist's ego? Has it ever been done?
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From my experience, she'll keep doing what she's doing until her back is firmly against the wall. I don't know if that's when she and the Flying Monkey will go public or he'll be gone for good. Then, she'll make a last ditch effort to latch on to a man with money. Think Scarlet O'Hara, wearing the curtain dress.
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Why does Anonymous not have to chose a name like everyone else? Is she a new Anonymous, or one of the many older ones?
Is Anonymous Leslie, or is she writing to Leslie? When Leslie is at the top of her posts, it made me think she was responding to Leslie, but if she is indeed Leslie, than I was mistaken about no name, and apologize.
I think many of the sheeple never could have watched the show. Didn't they see Jon bathing, dressing, feeding, playing with the kids? Taking them on trips and errands? Being kind and affectionate? In other words, being a good parent? Plus doing a lot of the housework and driving. The kids were always clinging to Jon, not Kate.
(can't post much lately due to instant crashing on this site?? My son will look at it when he has time. Miss reading more and commenting!)
The only reason TFW would have to be invited (or pushed by her agent) on to the talk show circuit is if there is something new or unexpected happening that would attract viewers. The normal routine doesn't do it.
The twins turning 13 was a semi-unique event that TFW leveraged to the max. Anyone who thinks she and her agent weren't floating the "Growing Up Gosselin" idea as a show about her teenage daughters is absolutely crazy. That tagline showed up in the background graphic on both of the talk shows they did in NYC. The only way two different networks used the same tagline is if she told them to. She also used it as a hashtag on some of her tweets. It might have worked too if TFW hadn't made it top priority to completely trash Jon in the interviews rather than let the focus stay on the twins.
There is nothing unique about the December specials. It is just filler material and possibly a test to see if the viewers turn in for more than a couple of weeks. TFW may think the world revolves around her but the truth is nothing she has done lately is headline worthy. I certainly hope it doesn't happen but I think the only thing that could draw them back into the spotlight is for one of the twins to do something absolutely shocking. TFW could then play the Kris Jenner part in "Keeping up with the Gosselins".
Both K & J need to shut up, and stop using" the kids" for filming. I couldn't care less about either of them at this point, as they both have made very foolish, selfish choices.
Stop filming the kids, stop arguing in public J & K, and get a job minus the kids. If either one is capable of this (Kids were with Jon who was watching the kids during CA), who cares ??
My main disgust with both of the parents, is that neither have come up with a peaceful resolution FOR the kids. No one needs to hear about this in the media. ( kids 10 and 13).
Both need to get jobs that do not include the kids. Period. They are both over shelf-life and continuing filming the kids and the public arguments/problems is not a great idea. Most parents would NEVER do this.
Both need to move on before they totally destroy the kids. Get a Life minus your kids and EX-spouse and do what is best for them. Leave the kids alone; the kids have more than earned their right to privacy, and Jon gets no pass from me as he reportedly allowed TFW to continue to film the kids in exchange for no Child Support. They both are screwed up.
I agree with Mike B, the specials are just filler, testing it out JUST in case for some reason there is massive interest again, which I think they know is doubtful.
They did more or less say they would try to do an update, so it's about promoting good will too and fulfilling their promises to viewers. Viewers need to know if they get "attached" to a show that TLC will see it through and give them a few updates now and again so viewers can check in.
Also they are lazy and not creative, and haven't come up with some other bigger and better concept for a show on TLC. It's the same old tired stuff and almost ALL the old big shows from the early 2000's are "back" in some form. They are still a very small network, and if a show pulls in a couple million apparently that's plenty for them. It's a cheap way to get them a few million over the holidays when there's so much else out there to watch, nothing more nothing less.
When these few filmed episodes and CA is over, there is nothing else filmed for us to watch. What is she going to do? I think she will start lobbying for a sweet 16 in 2016 birthday blowout for TLC to film and pay for, which each twin will receive matchy-matchy SUV's.
Courtesy of TLC.
Can you imagine what Milo would tweet about it?
Happy Sweet 16 Bday 2Mady 2Cara woo hoo! *\o/*
I am relieved now U can drive sibs everywhere while she gets deserved rest and snooze to rest that rockin body! Drove route 4 years #LegalDrivers #DeservedRest #BodyByKate *\o/*
sayitisntso said... 127
Both K & J need to shut up, and stop using" the kids" for filming. I couldn't care less about either of them at this point,
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Amen.
Just leave the kids alone and let them be kids let them have the remainder of their childhood while they still can.
Great article about a 8th grade girl convincing her school not to go on their field trip to SeaWorld!
http://www.upworthy.com/amazing-eighth-grader-convinces-entire-school-to-skip-seaworld?c=ufb1
Speaking of Milo, she hasn't tweeted in a week or so and the other sheep are beginning to fret...oh, and Jamie has gone private I see.
I have always watched CA, but I'm not even sure I will watch it for the sake of TFW appearing for even a few episodes. I'm so over her and whatever she or her handlers think she offers to any program. TLC is just desperate for ratings over the 1 million mark and for advertising dollars. Compared to the current Honey Boo Boo mess, the saga of TFW probably last premiere specials had well over 1 million viewers also (generating over 2 million to close to 2 million with the following episode). I don't watch 19 Kids and Counting, but I read that the last episode of Jill's wedding generated over 4.4million viewers and came in second in cable views for the night. Considering the show was down to 1million plus viewers not that long ago, that it pretty impressive. It's all about the advertising dollars and the offspring and their courtships, weddings, births, and this appears to be paying off for TLC. I have no idea what TFW and her kids have to offer TLC at this time in their lives, but TLC doesn't seem to care about anything but ratings over the 1 million mark. TFW did deliver well over that for their last specials. Time will tell if she can deliver with more episodes that shows viewers nothing new from this family, other than a bird that flies around and most likely craps all over her house. LPBW are also focusing on weddings. TFW needs to step it up with a wedding, some type of commitment ceremony or perhaps one of her pets getting pregnant and having an offspring ( as long as it isn't her).
localyocul said... 134
Speaking of Milo, she hasn't tweeted in a week or so and the other sheep are beginning to fret...oh, and Jamie has gone private I see.
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Smart. No one needs to read the thoughts of Pumpkin Pants, but I'm sure Milo is majorly bumming.
TFW needs to step it up with a wedding, some type of commitment ceremony or perhaps one of her pets getting pregnant and having an offspring ( as long as it isn't her).
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There's plenty of kid filming left. Twins turn 16- watch Kate lose her mind!!
Tups turn into teens!!!!!
Tups learn to drive!!!
School graduations!!!
TLC will be filming the kids for years to come, and I'm betting that there will be specials when they get married because believe me, some of those kids are going to follow mom and dad into reality tv.
Why study hard and work for a living when you can sell you soul to reality tv?
I saw on Radar that Michelle "Vagina Canon" Duggar posted a pic of her kissing Jim Boob a la the daughter Jenna kissing her new husband.
They're all fame whores and I don't see much difference between them, Kate and June Boo Boo.
I'm betting that Jenna gets a crossover show of her own.
Leave the kids alone; the kids have more than earned their right to privacy, and Jon gets no pass from me as he reportedly allowed TFW to continue to film the kids in exchange for no Child Support. They both are screwed up.
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Reportedly. The operative word. Where did this rumor initially come from? Did one of the sheeple put out there in their defective detective work, saying that this is what MUST have happened because there is no other reason for him not paying child support? It gave them a really good reason to bash him while making Kate look good...the single struggling mom of EIGHT who was kind enough to have pity on her ex.
This was never confirmed. We've discussed the CS process quite often, pointing out that Kate just can't relieve him of support payments without the whole thing going through the courts. We don't know the details of what went down here, how much he is actually contributing to their support, why he no longer pays Kate through the system, or anything else.
I don't understand all of the comments that Jon needs to stop using his kids for filming and making money. How is he doing this? Either I am really out of the loop here and missing something very important, but I haven't seen him shoving a camera in the faces of his children. In fact, it's been quite the opposite. If he didn't care about kids on reality television, then he never would have gone to the forum with a state representative or Paul Petersen and expressed his concerns about the effects of filming on young children.
I agree that going to the media for the purpose of telling his side of the child support issue isn't a good idea. It would do absolutely nothing to set anything straight and would, in fact, open up more issues that would need to be addressed. It's over, it's done, and those that care are only a blip in the whole scheme of things.
Anonymous said... 118
(Leslie) Post #114 Rainbows
I'm not following this. So if Jon speaks out with the truth about how he financially provides for his children, she won't have as many viewers?___________________________
Sorry you are not following this. Jon speaking out is NOT to affect her viewership. That is not the point at all. Rainbows stated, "I don't think that anyone other than a few sheeple really care about her.There's just not enough interest there to generate any kind of media coverage on whether he pays child support. That issue is very low on the radar of most people, and most likely non-existent." I disagree with this.
At least a million will tune in to see Kate Plus 8 in Dec.several times and several million will probably see Kate talk about her kids on CA in Jan. and Feb. So I think there is enough interest in the Gosselins. Also GMA had her on to promote Kate Plus 8 last time and I think a few other may have too.
Who gives a damn about the dumb sheeple and her idiot tweeters. Those people are nuts and will not believe a thing anyway. My point was not for Jon to reach those nuts. But a great deal of America believe that Kate MUST film her EIGHT KIDS because their father does not support them. That is a lie. He does support now and always has and she does not need to be filming HIS kids anymore.because is a multi-millionaire.
He has stated that he doesn't pay child support, so you're statement that he is supporting them now is false. (No, having food for them on their occasional visits does not equal supporting your children. I'm pretty damn sure that not ONE of you would consider the father of your children to be equally supporting them if they provided the amount of support that Jon does. GET REAL.)
You have conveniently forgotten that Jon GAVE UP legal custody of his children, so he has no say in whether his children are filmed. Whining to the tabloids and making bold proclamations about what you are going to do does not make one a responsible parent.
Well, if this is true and only our group and sheeple are interested in her than why is CA and TLC giving her airtime? And TLC is apparently giving her a few shows. And we know a million (I think) turned into her show last time.
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Two words. Train wreck. The person they love to hate and watch to see bad behavior. That gets old after awhile, when new people appear to take the place when her shelf life has expired. She will no doubt get some airtime in the near future, but those television hosting gigs, photo shoots for major magazines, appearances on prime time television...it's not going to happen. She is someone those few networks can turn to when they have nobody else. She will never pull in six million viewers for a series, and the networks know it. She's filler.
I see a non-fan on Twitter picked up the comment here from last night regarding the BV logo on the photo of Kate, and asked her about it. Will she respond, or will Milo answer for her? Assuming, of course, that Gladys comes out of hiding and resumes her work as spokesperson extraordinaire. Is Gladys pouting because Jamie went private?
Time will tell if she can deliver with more episodes that shows viewers nothing new from this family, other than a bird that flies around and most likely craps all over her house.
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Well she'd better throw a tightrope over Niagra Falls and walk across it backwards and blindfolded for me to even flip over to TLC again. The last thing I watched on that channel was an episode of Sister Wives over a year ago and decided we may as well be flushing money down the toilet. It's the worst channel on our entire cable package.
Anyway I watch CA faithfully and I'll watch it again with or without her appearance, even though it will be an added little bonus to see her make an ass of herself. Again.
Jon gets no pass from me as he reportedly allowed TFW to continue to film the kids in exchange for no Child Support.
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I thought this wasn't true.
Tweet-le De (123)...Wasn't it just a week or two ago everyone was claiming how tired of Kate they were?
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I think that the comments were that she was boring and old news, but to be patient because she would do something really stupid again. She did just that, with her insensitive comments about her charity, Camp Barnabas, and her yard sale with donations to the local shelter. One thing for certain is that she never disappoints because she keeps putting her foot in her mouth.
Over In TFW's County said... 139
Leave the kids alone; the kids have more than earned their right to privacy, and Jon gets no pass from me as he reportedly allowed TFW to continue to film the kids in exchange for no Child Support. They both are screwed up.
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Reportedly. The operative word. Where did this rumor initially come from?
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This rumor is bandied about like fact and is reported all over the place.
Reality Check said... 140
He has stated that he doesn't pay child support, so you're statement...
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Before the spelling/grammar police chime in, I meant "your" not "you're."
I am with Auntie on trying to figure out who's on first. I am well aware that he doesn't pay child support. Kate's attorney confirmed the fact. My comment is that it was never confirmed that he sold out his kids by allowing them to film in exchange for not paying child support. In addition, in PA, child support or non-payment of it must go through the courts. She just can't say, "Okay, Jon. I have money. You don't, so I'm relieving you of any financial obligation to the children, now and in the future." It doesn't work that way.
Someone came up with the theory that he made a deal with Kate, but who was it? Sheeple? He never said it, Kate never said it, and neither of their attorneys said it. Or did they?
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localyocul said... 134
Speaking of Milo, she hasn't tweeted in a week or so and the other sheep are beginning to fret...oh, and Jamie has gone private I see.
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Smart. No one needs to read the thoughts of Pumpkin Pants, but I'm sure Milo is majorly bumming.
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Not really; Milo is following Jamie so she can see Jamies tweets. If anything, she is no a member of Jamie's exclusive club
Reality Check said:
You have conveniently forgotten that Jon GAVE UP legal custody of his children, so he has no say in whether his children are filmed. Whining to the tabloids and making bold proclamations about what you are going to do does not make one a responsible parent.
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Reality Check - I think you have conveniently forgotten that Jon was significantly out-gunned and out-spent in the custody and divorce legal battles. TLC wanted to keep filming Kate and the children and they provided their legal resources to help ensure they got exactly what they wanted. Kate was more than happy to have their help, as it coincided with her wishes.
It was a David vs. Goliath, except in this case it had the more usual ending - Goliath won. Then TLC discovered that a lot of viewers lost interest in the show when it was just Kate sitting alone on the couch flapping her manicured fingers and talking to the camera.
This is not a normal divorce/custody situation. Jon is not the brightest bulb in the box; and he does not have ambition or drive. He's an easy-going, pleasant man who grew up with a wealthy father who indulged his wants and desires. This leads to an adult who will have trouble being successful, because he wasn't allowed to make his own way in his younger years. That does not mean he is an irresponsible parent -- only that he's not driven, not highly educated, not particularly smart. However, he does love his children and I think with his limited income and skill set, he's doing his best to be a part of their lives. He's doing his best dealing with a narcissistic ex-wife, and a court order that grants her legal custody. He's doing his best with court rulings against him, saying that Kate can take the children out of the country for filming.
When the kids are with him, he provides what they need during that time - food, clothing, shelter, and most of all, a loving environment. Kate has the McMansion, but when those kids are there, their day is strictly monitored and they are loaded with chores. I think that home is a very cold and unwelcoming environment.
But this is an old worn discussion. There will always be those who think Jon purposely gave up custody in exchange for some benefit. Yet I ask you to please point out the benefit. I see a guy who has had a series of jobs that pay modest amounts, having a hard time affording a place to live that would also accommodate his children, and who wants to be in a long-term relationship but it hasn't worked out for him. In short, he's like a lot of men who are just struggling to get by. I feel sorry for the guy.
Anonymous said... 112
(Leslie)
Whether Kate earned approx. $135,000 or $500,000 on DWTS is not important becaused she earned millions in the past ten years.
But I personally think both DWTS and CA probably don't have a sign on fee that goes across the board.
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I am a DWTS fan who reads on DWTS boards regularly. It it generally believed that in DWTS fandom that it DOES pay all celebs on the same scale, starting with $125,000 and adding the amounts stated above for additional weeks.
Shawn Johnson's contract was public knowledge, because she was a minor when she first did DWTS, and that's where those amounts came from. Several other contestants or would-be contestants have reported the same amounts. Some before Shawn, some since. Some bigger "draws" than Shawn, some smaller.
I do believe the DWTS celebs who last the same amount of time are paid the same amount of money.
Note that the same is NOT believed of the pro dancers - the belief is that those who have been on for years and/or have bigger fan bases are paid substantially more than the newbies.
Perhaps Joy, who is an avid DWTS fan, can chime in on this.
Sayitisntso said:
Stop filming the kids, stop arguing in public J & K, and get a job minus the kids. If either one is capable of this (Kids were with Jon who was watching the kids during CA), who cares ??
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Um, just wanted to point out that Jon has gotten a variety of jobs that do not involve the children. I'm not sure if he's still working for a local restaurant as a promoter/host person or not, but that was one of his most recent employment endeavors. Which, I think you will agree, did not involve the children in any way. Prior to that, I recall he worked for some solar panel company, I think he tried a job back in IT, and he went on that therapy tv show (again it did not involve the children, only him and Liz).
Kate did DWTS and CA and neither one involved filming the children (unless they were briefly filmed during a "family visit" portion of CA, which we won't know until that show airs). However, she has tweeted about them frequently, sharing various alleged stories and sayings. She allowed filming by TLC of the tups supposed 10th birthday party, a going back to school episode, and who knows what else. She is chomping at the bit to get them all back on any kind of regular show.
I wish people would stop saying that Jon and Kate are exactly the same when it comes to how they behave regarding the children. They are not exactly the same. You can dislike Jon all you want, but at least try to be factual when criticizing him.
Reality Check said... 140
You have conveniently forgotten that Jon GAVE UP legal custody of his children, so he has no say in whether his children are filmed. Whining to the tabloids and making bold proclamations about what you are going to do does not make one a responsible parent.
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Reality Check - When did Jon give up custody? I missed that one. Can you provide a link or a source to that statement?
I know a year ago he said he wasn't paying child support but I don't remember reading or him stating anywhere that he gave up custody.
Gosselin also noted that he does not pay any type of child support to his ex. "[Kate and I] both support [the children] financially because she takes care of school and all that stuff, but I take care of the exact same things she takes care of," he said. "I buy their own groceries. They have their own groceries at my house, their own bedrooms, their own stuff. It's doubled."
http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/jon-gosselin-says-he-doesnt-pay-child-support-has-no-relationship-with-ex-wife-kate-gosselin-2013199#ixzz3Ihh8788G
Before the spelling/grammar police chime in, I meant "your" not "you're."
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No worries. Posters here don't act as police for other posters...that's reserved for calling out the fans who have taken the Sheeple 101 spelling/grammar course at the ewe-niversity, with emphasis on their, there, and they're; loose and lose; jellus; hater's; see, saw and seen; you're and your, and laying and lying, among others! Those are very troublesome for the fans, and sometimes for Kate!
Millicent said... 150
Reality Check - I think you have conveniently forgotten that Jon was significantly out-gunned and out-spent in the custody and divorce legal battles. TLC wanted to keep filming Kate and the children and they provided their legal resources to help ensure they got exactly what they wanted. Kate was more than happy to have their help, as it coincided with her wishes.
It was a David vs. Goliath, except in this case it had the more usual ending - Goliath won. Then TLC discovered that a lot of viewers lost interest in the show when it was just Kate sitting alone on the couch flapping her manicured fingers and talking to the camera.
This is not a normal divorce/custody situation. Jon is not the brightest bulb in the box; and he does not have ambition or drive. He's an easy-going, pleasant man who grew up with a wealthy father who indulged his wants and desires. This leads to an adult who will have trouble being successful, because he wasn't allowed to make his own way in his younger years. That does not mean he is an irresponsible parent -- only that he's not driven, not highly educated, not particularly smart. However, he does love his children and I think with his limited income and skill set, he's doing his best to be a part of their lives. He's doing his best dealing with a narcissistic ex-wife, and a court order that grants her legal custody. He's doing his best with court rulings against him, saying that Kate can take the children out of the country for filming.
When the kids are with him, he provides what they need during that time - food, clothing, shelter, and most of all, a loving environment. Kate has the McMansion, but when those kids are there, their day is strictly monitored and they are loaded with chores. I think that home is a very cold and unwelcoming environment.
But this is an old worn discussion. There will always be those who think Jon purposely gave up custody in exchange for some benefit. Yet I ask you to please point out the benefit. I see a guy who has had a series of jobs that pay modest amounts, having a hard time affording a place to live that would also accommodate his children, and who wants to be in a long-term relationship but it hasn't worked out for him. In short, he's like a lot of men who are just struggling to get by. I feel sorry for the guy.
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I didn't conveniently forget anything. I don't buy the story that poor little Jon Gosselin was taken to the cleaners by big bad TLC. How did he afford a Manhattan apartment? a Porsche? International travel? etc. I don't believe for one second that he was left penniless. I believe he chose to live an extravagant lifestyle and blew threw his money. Of course, I don't know that for a fact since I'm not privy to the details. And neither are YOU.
I did not state that he gave up legal custody in exchange for some benefit. He does not have legal custody of his children according to HIM.
Hi math girl! Oh yes DWTS is SO fascinating to me!
Exactly as math girl says, when Shawn Johnson was on, because she was a minor, a copy of her contract got into the public record and thanks to TMZ everyone else ingested got to read about it.
I would not be surprised if the pro dancers have bonuses built into their contacts too. Karina, Derek, saint Tony, Mark, the Chermsky brothers, all are very popular. Max choose to skip this season, that's ok, Val has shown us plenty of his muscular chest!
Also the pro dancers remain on the show as part of the dance troop, and as choreographers, even after their celeb partners are voted off the dance floor.
New episode of DWTS tonight! They might as well hand the trophy over to Alfonso. I think Sadie Robertson will be in the final three or four, that girl can dance!
Over, 157: "that's reserved for calling out the fans who have taken the Sheeple 101 spelling/grammar course at the ewe-niversity, with emphasis on their, there, and they're; loose and lose;"
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LOL! Apparently it's not only the Twitter sheeple who have trouble with some of those, especially lose and loose!
raindrops @nochanceofrain 15m15 minutes ago
@Sassccha @ConcernedChick @Kateplusmy8 all I wanted todo was kick her in the shin lol & yell LOOSER!!! I WIN
I didn't conveniently forget anything. I don't buy the story that poor little Jon Gosselin was taken to the cleaners by big bad TLC.
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I do. I buy it. I also agree with Millicent's post (150). Jon got the short end of the stick (the other end is still up Kate's rear end), and he had to get out of that situation the best way he knew how to do it. That divorce could have dragged on for years and years and cost so much money for him to fight it that he just said the heck with it...get it done and over and bite the bullet. He stood no chance going up against her and the TLC machine. And yes, I do know some of the details, but I'm not going to open up that can of worms. If he wants to explain it in the media, he's free to do so although I don't think he owes anyone an explanation of what happened before, during or after divorce proceedings.
I did not state that he gave up legal custody in exchange for some benefit. He does not have legal custody of his children according to HIM.
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I'm so sick of hearing this legal custody bullshit used to cut Jon down. We have no idea why Jon allows Kate to have legal custody.
My sense is that Kate always made the very same decisions that she is now legally making, all along.
School, religion, doctors etc. That's always been Kate.
This in no way diminishes Jon's role as their father, so wielding it as some sort of evidence that he chose to fail his children is unfair and unwarranted.
Trusting Kate to continue to make the very same decisions she's made all along, and recognizing that she's the decision maker in these matters, shows maturity and trust.
I can imagine that Jon never imagined, in his wildest dreams, that Kate would refuse to co-parent with him, EVER.
That level of mental illness is something that I don't think Jon even realized about Kate.
Tucker's Mom...159...AMEN!
Time for stocking up on Rumspringa. Cold weather is coming! Where is Mrs. Kravitz and the weather reports for Kate?
I did not state that he gave up legal custody in exchange for some benefit. He does not have legal custody of his children according to HIM.
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And according to Kate she is the sole provider for the 8.
But she doesn't work a job w/o using them
And according to Kate she needs to exploit the 8 in-order to be the sole provider. In reality the 8 are providing for HER..
In very contentious cases it's common to give legal custody to one to avoid constantly taking everything to court. Even if both parents are appropriate. Since if Kate ever does something too crazy he can still take her to court, it shouldn't be skin off anyone's back. He seems to have no dispute over her medical, educational or religious decisions, which is what legal custody is, which probably explains why he said "who cares" when it comes to legal. He's right, who cares. Maybe it will do what was intended and cause less fighting. There is no reason filming decisions couldn't still be brought to court if they were detrimental, but it seems a judge has already decided they could film. Long before their arrangements were ever finalized. I believe Tamara and Simon from Real Housewives we're going through a similar dispute over filming. The piece of this that isn't being grasped is that all it means is that one parent can take a child with a broken bone to the hospital and get it fixed without calling the other parent to agree to it. I don't see why Jon would object to that. However it in no way prevents Jon from going to court if he believes some detrimental act by the other parent caused the broken bone. That's the best way I know to explain legal custody.
PA Dutch Mom said... 160
Tucker's Mom...159...AMEN!
Time for stocking up on Rumspringa. Cold weather is coming! Where is Mrs. Kravitz and the weather reports for Kate?
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We are already suffering through snowstorms and nasty cold weather here in our area north of the 49th parallel. I've loaded Bernie's kegs and he's all suited up and ready for Rumspringa to the Rescue season.
I certainly would have enjoyed more than seven and a half hours of summer this year. We got gypped.
JoyinVirginia said... 156
New episode of DWTS tonight! They might as well hand the trophy over to Alfonso. I think Sadie Robertson will be in the final three or four, that girl can dance!
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I'm not so sure. Bethany has the advantage of having "The Golden Boy" as her partner!
In DWTS circles, the pro dancer Derek (AKA the golden boy) is the big polarizing factor. He's won a lot more than anyone else. His detractors feel that he's given the best partners, pimped out relentlessly, and scored much more leniently than the other dancers. His fans think he's brilliant at choreography and at teaching his celebs to dance.
I think that he is brilliant - at creating the illusion that his partners are dancing well. He uses clever choreography and tricks to direct attention away from his partners' weaknesses. He's a magician and a master of misdirection.
I think that all DWTS celebs are paid on the same scale. But the really desirable ones can request their pro partner, and the smart ones request Derek. Note that K did NOT get Derek. So not desirable or not smart?
chefsummer #Leh said... 161
I did not state that he gave up legal custody in exchange for some benefit. He does not have legal custody of his children according to HIM.
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And according to Kate she is the sole provider for the 8.
But she doesn't work a job w/o using them
And according to Kate she needs to exploit the 8 in-order to be the sole provider. In reality the 8 are providing for HER..
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That's right. There wouldn't even BE any money at all if those kids hadn't been shoved in front of a camera their whole lives, but that was her whole plan in the first place.
Step one: have HOM
Step two: shill them on tv
Step three: quit nursing job
Step four:enjoy the spoils of celebrity
Step five: ditch the sperm donator
I just hope there's enough left for them when it comes time to use it for something worthwhile in their lives and that it's not all been used to finance Mommie Dearest's lifestyle.
The millions (yes millions) that BOTH Jon and Kate earned filming Jon & Kate Plus 8 is enough money for the kids to be supported in the past and present.
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The money that. Katie controlled and still does. Eleven bank accounts, remember?
And she was/is bullshit that Jon put money in trust for his children that she can't touch.
I seemed to recall Jon in a video clip saying something like "if Kate wants legal custody, fine. I don't care as long as I have visitation.". In searching I found this written article that touches on the legal custody. It seems like maybe he didn't really consider all the implications of what it meant to have legal custody?
http://dadsroundtable.com/spotlight/2013/07/the-jon-gosselin-interview/3/
This links to page 3 of 4.
"Have you been able to shed the effects of the divorce in anyway?
It’s still going on now. It’s 4 years now. Custody battles, not agreeing, what are the rules, and court. It doesn’t bother me though because I want to do what’s best for my kids. If they want to stay at my house, they can stay at my house. The custody order is a guideline; it’s not set in stone. Who has legal? Who cares? It doesn’t matter. I mean, are you going to take me to court over that? Over what my kids want to do? Go ahead." (my bolding)
I do agree Jon did party hard and he probably did spend tons of $$ but we can turn and she Kate spent tons of $$ on plastic surgery.
Jon had one vice partying/party boy mode and Kate had I wanna be barbie surgery mode.
Neither really worked hard for either their vices the kids paid for it.
OT. Took Roo to doggie day care where they gave her a second de-skunking bath, gratis. Love these people.
Anyone have ideas on how to get the skunk smell out of the house? I did a ton of laundry yesterday, blankets and dog bedding don't smell. Carpets? Air? It's not overpowering but definitely noticeable.
AuntieAnn said...
I certainly would have enjoyed more than seven and a half hours of summer this year. We got gypped
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Gee, rub it in, why don't ya. You got 7 hours more than we did. Are you sure it wasn't 8, count 'em, 8 hours of summer?
PJ
This is sad.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/10/showbiz/joan-rivers-death/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
This makes me pretty angry. She never saw it coming. A real tragedy, IMO.
PJ
Anonymous said... 171
This is sad.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/10/showbiz/joan-rivers-death/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
This makes me pretty angry. She never saw it coming. A real tragedy, IMO.
PJ
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Me too! Completely unacceptable. Poor Melissa
PA Dutch Mom said... 160
Tucker's Mom...159...AMEN!
Time for stocking up on Rumspringa. Cold weather is coming! Where is Mrs. Kravitz and the weather reports for Kate?
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Gladys gave the WOS several opportunities to agree that she, Milo, was a loyal friend and that loyalty, not blood, made you family. She put it out there for Kate and made sure Kate knew that St. Milo of Kravitz was a martyr for Kate. Kate ignored all of it. So Milo is sulking, waiting for Kate (or enough sheeple) to ask where she is and if she's okay.
(I looked it up, and there really was a St. Milo. Milo was controversial with strange and erratic behavior. Too eerie! And St. Milo was killed by a wild boar. Our Gladys should beware that she's not done in by a wild "bore" [Kate] or "boor" [the defective detective]. Teehee)
Anyone have ideas on how to get the skunk smell out of the house? I did a ton of laundry yesterday, blankets and dog bedding don't smell. Carpets? Air? It's not overpowering but definitely noticeable.
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I went through this too and I couldn't figure out how to make it any better. Nothing helped.
But rest assured it DOES go away. I think it took about two weeks where I finally didn't smell it anymore, and after the first week it was tons better.
But rest assured it DOES go away. I74
Thanks for the reassurance. A friend recommended Nature's Miracle. I'm looking into it. Once I got her collar out of here it also got better.
I love this veranda.
Rhymes, I've never used Nature's Miracle, but it works very well on whole male cat spray odor. Plus it's non-toxic to pets.
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Being familiar with whole male cat spray, I take that as a ringing endorsement. Thank you.
Off topic: It's really strange the way Kate's half dozen fans mock Jon's physical appearance regularly. They sure must hate the Gosselin kids. Kate is a very attractive woman beyond the artificialness :P and yet none of those kids look like her. I am thinking none of them will appreciate their "support".
While it does go away after awhile - a long while - you will become nose blind to it. Our 6 yr old hound got sprayed heavily on the face and neck some months ago (she had the skunk trapped under the deck and was going in for the kill). I can still smell that odor on her neck if I'm cuddling with her.
Nature's Miracle helps. So does the deskunking bath at Pet People or PetSmart. Original Dawn helps break down the odor as well.
Good Luck!
Personally, I think Kate is having an emotional affair with Steve. No physical intimacy. It might not even be reciprocated by Steve. Certainly the signs are there.
I want to thank all the veterans and the women and men serving in the military.
I went through this too and I couldn't figure out how to make it any better. Nothing helped.
But rest assured it DOES go away. I think it took about two weeks where I finally didn't smell it anymore, and after the first week it was tons better.
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I reverted back to the 60s and burned incense all over the house. The smell went away in a day or so. Of course, I had this overwhelming desire to go out and purchase a lava lamp and love beads.
Virginia Pen -- thanks for the update on Milo. I couldn't figure out what she was sulking about this time, and now I remember the love/loyalty/friendship tweet. She is so predictable with the pouting episodes. At least it's known that St. Milo was a male; with Gladys, we just don't know!
Midnight Madness said... 182
I went through this too and I couldn't figure out how to make it any better. Nothing helped.
But rest assured it DOES go away. I think it took about two weeks where I finally didn't smell it anymore, and after the first week it was tons better.
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I reverted back to the 60s and burned incense all over the house. The smell went away in a day or so. Of course, I had this overwhelming desire to go out and purchase a lava lamp and love beads.
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Burn those Patchouli punks!
What an amazing Veteran's Da. The National Mall is swelling with people going to see the Concert For Valor this evening, I'm in shorts and a tee-shirt, giving my dog a bath (outdoors) before the Polar Vortex descends upon us.
Thankfully, he hasn't been skunked, but was just smelling a bit musty ;-)
Of course, I had this overwhelming desire to go out and purchase a lava lamp and love beads. 182
Now you've got me wondering if my love beads are in a box somewhere!
Virginia Pen Mom, love term St Milo of Kravitz! We have St Tony, why not St Milo too?
Natures Miracle also highly recommended here, for cat and dog urine smell. Also white vinegar makes a good laundry rinse and you can use full strength on most carpet, it helped when I fostered an unneutered male who wanted to mark everywhere'
Speaking of dogs, we lost our black lab last week. She was 13 and a wonderful girl who we rescued from the Richmond, VA SPCA (right before they moved into the new facilities) when she was about 8 months old.
It made me think about how time flies.
I can't believe it. It seems like yesterday that I brought her poor, quivering, frightened-to-the-point-of-pooping-in-the-car! self home.
I'm so glad we got to take her back to the OBX in Sept. She loved chasing those crabs!
I was looking for the Nature's Miracle for my dad and I came across this from Petco. Nature's Miracle, 32 oz. bottle, reg. 13.99 on sale today for 8.39. 40% off!
http://tinyurl.com/pj2flkk
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Unfortunately, my dog got sprayed by a skunk TWICE within a three week time period, so I know a little bit too much about getting rid of the smell from both the dog and the house.
Learn from my mistakes and DO NOT bring your beloved inside the house, the spray from the skunk is a musk oil and is very hard to get rid of the odor and less you break down the enzymes in the oil. To get rid of the smell once it's in your house, you will a gallon or 2 of white vinegar that is used for cleaning. Boil a gallon of it on the stove and it will remove the odor of the skunk. I also recommend putting some vinegar in a spray bottle with some water and spraying it around the house, (using it the same way you would use febreeze). Yes, your house will smell like a tossed salad, but it's better than skunk! If the odor a very strong, it is also helpful to put some vinegar in a few small bowls around the house, as it will continue to absorb the odor). This worked so well for me, that I now keep a small bowl of it next to the cats litter box.
As for the dog, I can attest that the dawn dish soap/baking soda/hydrogen perioxide solution works best, but I have also had satisfactory results w/natures miracle skunk odor remover as well. Unfortunately, multiple baths will be necessary, and the odor will come back every time your pet gets wet, so I find it helpful to have that spray bottle of vinegar & H20 around and I will spray some on him whenever he gets damp. As, for the tomato juice- it doesn't really break down the enzymes in the skunk musk as well, but I do find it helpful to add it to the vat of vodka that will be necessary to help "mommy" cope with this ordeal...and by "mommy" I mean ME! I love my fur baby, but I am renaming him STINKY!
Good luck with Roostinker!
Has anyone tried Ozium for skunk smell in the house. It's the stuff that crime scene clean-up crews use and it's supposed to work on decomposition odors. Could a skunk smell possibly be worse than decomp?
My cat got skunked once and tomato juice did absolutely nothing. Six months later, when it rained, I could still smell it.
PJ
Tucker's Mom - So sorry to hear about your fur baby. I know he'll be missed.
Happy Veteran's Day to those who served and are still serving (and to us military wives who serve right along with them). I want to especially recognize one of my son's best friends who lost a leg to an IED explosion and after over a year in rehab is still serving proudly.
None of my bulldogs have ever been skunked but Nature's Miracle worked wonders when one of them expressed his AGs in the car one day.
Ozium works on whole male spray odor, too. A lot of cat show judges use it when a male sprays in the judging ring.
I just re-read my earlier post and realized it doesn't make any sense. I meant to say I've never used Nature's Miracle on skunk spray, not that I've never used it. Sorry 'bout that.
Ummmm......WHAT????
@TaraHelmig
kate gosselin came through my line, talked to me for 15 mins, and left by giving me her phone number and saying i could babysit whenever. ok
tar @TaraHellmig 38m38 minutes ago
kate gosselin came through my line, talked to me for 15 mins, and left by giving me her phone number and saying i could babysit whenever. ok
I don't know if this is true, but does Kate ever look at these kids' timelines or does a background check? My word.
MARIE @MY_2BCOLLIES · 5m 5 minutes ago
A personal Thank you to Veteran Marine James McGibney for serving our country & now is the founder of BullyVille who helps those in need.����
Seems they are still members of the cult and love him, doesn't it? That must be some powerful Kool Aid they are drinking. I wonder how that class-action lawsuit is progressing. We don't hear anything about it. You just have to shake your head...
It would seem to me that Kate would take that girl's phone number, not give out her own.
I don't know if this is true, but does Kate ever look at these kids' timelines or does a background check? My word. 194
I can't see why this unknown(?) person would make this up.
It also amazes me that Katie can't manage taking out all 8, but has no problem leaving all 8 with a teenager.
Tara Hellmig must have passed the smell test. She spells whoa woah!! I guess she is in.
I wonder how that class-action lawsuit is progressing. We don't hear anything about it. 195
I check out bvfiles (viaview.com) every 10 days or so out of curiosity. Apparently things aren't going in mccrazy's favor.
Whatever is in that koolaid I don't want any.
@TaraHellmig: Love when @Kateplusmy8 comes through my line at Giant 😁 Its nice talking one on one with someone from one of my favorite tv shows!
Looks like she changed her post
Sue said... 200
@TaraHellmig: Love when @Kateplusmy8 comes through my line at Giant �� Its nice talking one on one with someone from one of my favorite tv shows!
Looks like she changed her post
November 11, 2014 at 3:50 PM
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Interesting. She looks very young and her Twitter is a mess.
I don't even want to believe that Kate would scoop a young girl out of the checkout line at the grocery store and offer her a babysitting job.
Tucker's Mom said... 186
Speaking of dogs, we lost our black lab last week. She was 13 and a wonderful girl who we rescued from the Richmond, VA SPCA (right before they moved into the new facilities) when she was about 8 months old.
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Sorry about your sweet little girl, Tucker. Thanks to you and all here who rescue. These dogs have been through so much. I'm sure your girl had a wonderful life in her new home.
We had a dog from the same SPCA (in the old building too, back in the 80s), and she was also a wonderful girl until she passed. And my sister-in-law also got a very special little girl from there. That sweet dog's life was all too short due to an incurable kidney issue due to--the vet thought--kicking by the previous owner.
Last month, we learned one of our present rescues has Cushings disease. It was pretty rough for a few weeks (she couldn't hold her water and trembled relentlessly) until the medication kicked in. Cushings is caused by a tumor on the pituitary. It's incurable, and the medication doesn't always work, but in this case it did. She's an old girl and will be on it for the rest of her life.
She's such a mixed breed, she has mismatched ears--one up and one down. We think one is a basenji ear and one is a Jack Russell!
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