Here's one of the longest clips to date, a four minute mash-up of the first task, baking pies:
http://starsentertainment.com/8850/kevin-jonas-ian-ziering-in-celebrity-apprentice-first-look/?utm_content=buffera13ac&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
717 sediments (sic) from readers:
«Oldest ‹Older 401 – 600 of 717 Newer› Newest»I'm to the point now that the Gosselin family is just hysterically dysfunctional. The twins demand separate rooms, they get separate rooms. Never mind the real money makers, the little kids, all have to move.
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It is funny in a sad way.
It's a family of eight children. There's no way it's feasible for everyone to have their own rooms. This is just part of having a big family. Perhaps some kids see it as a negative, but you trade some negatives for some positives with big families. You don't get to browbeat your way into getting your own room while everybody else has to do their part to make a big family tick.
These twins run the show over there and letting them have their way because Kate is desperate to just keep them cooperating with her or whatever her reasons, is going to create terribly spoiled children who don't understand the world does not revolve around them. It's really just a crying shame to see their behavior now, though it's exactly what one would expect would result from how Kate's handled them all these years. I don't think kids are ultimately happy to be calling the shots like this. If they think it makes them happy that feeling is temporary. Whether they know it or not kids crave boundaries and guidance and need a parent to be a parent, not a pushover.
Maybe she can get a guest zombie on The Walking Dead.
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She could always play a dead body on any one of the numerous crime shows. That doesn't require any acting skills. She just has to lie there and do nothing, which is one thing she should have down pat.
I wonder too if this is just another thing to sweeten the deal against Jon. You really want to see your father this weekend when you could hang out in your own room all day and have girlfriends over and do what you want? The playing field is hopelessly uneven, but Jon is not the first parent to be in a situation where the other parent is providing more than they can or want to. It must be hell to try to do right by your children and try not to spoil them or let them run the show only to have the other parent throw all your efforts away all the time by giving them everything you feel should be held back on.
IMO your next step should be a guest appearance in a television sitcom or drama.
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Wow Milo, I'm sure Kate has NEVER thought to try that before.
Lol good grief.
Comment 400 was really me.
your next step should be a guest appearance in a television sitcom or drama. 1
Or do an animation voiceover.
Bwahahahahaha.
I wonder if the twins are using the fact that they got screwed in favor of the sextuplets for years? Katie, you reap what you sow.
I share your disappointment that in this day in age with all we know and have learned about child exploitation, and given our history with the Dionnes and so on, the mistakes made there and the million dollar settlement that followed--that grown adults STILL think it's okay to exploit and expose kids like this. It is very disappointing and perplexing.
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Exactly, and why is that? It's disturbing. I would think that some of these adult fans have some kind of critical thinking ability. They can't all be stupid, can they? Many of them have children, for heavens sake. If not, wouldn't you think that they'd at least have some common sense, sit back and say, wait a minute, there is something not quite right with this, and ask themselves if there are long-range consequences when you put your kids on television for the purpose of keeping your face in the media. The only thing I can figure out is it's all because of their queen. Kate is the one they want to see, kids be darned. She is on so high a pedestal that they believe that anything she does is right and she knows what is best for her kids.
What they can't understand is that it's not the children's job to support their mother. No child should be saddled with that responsibility, stress, and perhaps guilt if things don't turn out as planned. Milo and the sheep aren't supporting Kate. The children are supporting themselves, as well as their mother.
Kids are bickering, whining, and fighting? My gosh, woman, their classmates will see this. Parents of their classmates will see this. How can you, as a parent, agree to put this on national television? For once in her life, she should consider the children's feelings and the embarrassment this will cause for the kids. It's so scary that she can't see this, or if she does, she just doesn't care. And the sheep just eat it up.
Milo. Dear sweet Milo. I agree that no matter how much vetting is done by a crack security person (tongue in cheek) that things can go wrong. It's fans such as this who clearly have deep psychological issues going on with them, who can snap and turn on you at the drop of a hat. I'd hate to see anything happen to Kate, but she doesn't need to let her guard down with some of these...not even for a minute.
Yes, Goody provided the laugh of the day. I understand that TLC is coming out with a new sex show, "All About Sex," hosted by Margaret Cho. I guess they passed over Kate when hiring a host. Perhaps that would have interested her. What about a featured spot on My Strange Addiction, which clearly would be appropriate since she is addicted to exploiting her own kids for money and freebies?
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 39m39 minutes ago
@Kateplusmy8 On the teaser clip...I believe I heard Aaden say "this is the room we got in lots of trouble..." LOL #ReflectingOnKidMemories
LOL, Milo? You're laughing about the fact that the boys got into lots of trouble and no doubt got the wooden spoon? Milo, you are clearly nuts and have no empathy for children. What in the world is wrong with you? Get some help!
One thing that stumped me at least since she upgraded to the McMansion is how any of the sheeple find this remotely
relatable.
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The magnificent TFW's life isn't supposed to be relatable! She's got EIGHT kids for gosh sakes and she deserves her mansion, swimming pool and leather couch. We the mediocre public can only admire her from afar and the haters can only be 24/7 jelus
I would think that some of these adult fans have some kind of critical thinking ability. They can't all be stupid, can they?
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There are a lot of dumb people out there. Also people with no critical thinking skills, and terribly selfish people who put love for a celeb and wanting to be part of her life and see her on TV over the well being of that celeb's children.
I also think there are still people out there who can't really separate what they see on TV form reality. I don't think they truly understand these are real people, if that makes sense. They are characters to them. Oh if you tell that to them they will deny it, but that's what's going on here for a lot of them. They are not truly grasping these are real children just like their children, children who need to stop being treated like commodities.
The magnificent TFW's life isn't supposed to be relatable! She's got EIGHT kids for gosh sakes and she deserves her mansion, swimming pool and leather couch. We the mediocre public can only admire her from afar and the haters can only be 24/7 jelus
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This is so true. Most of the fans are just your average Joe off the street. They are living vicariously through her. They don't need to relate to anything she does, or to the material possessions she has. Certainly many of them are piecing and patching, living from paycheck to paycheck, but they can look at her and perhaps believe that if an ordinary gal from a small Pennsylvania town can make it big, have three cars and live in what they would consider a mansion, then could there be hope for them? With the exception of two teenage fans, I don't think they are wealthy people or come from money or have any post-high school education (the exception would be the one without her D).
They're dreaming, of course, but her success in the entertainment industry is what it's all about. She's risen above her mediocre roots, she doesn't need to work when she has eight kids to put food on the table for her. Sad, really.
So that little blurb said that TFW puts on a brave face in front of
her kids? Well, that might be worth watching -- don't think I've
ever seen her do that before. Collapsing in a heap and being
comforted by her kids is more her style.
I defy Gladys to identify what makes TFW a "survivor."
"While she may put on a strong face for her kids, Kate does admit that raising eight kids on her own is exhausting in the trailer "
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I've heard of putting on a brave face & keeping a straight face. I've also heard it said that someone 'has a strong face'. But I've never heard of someone putting on a strong face. Kate unfortunately rarely gets past 'bitch face'.
If the fans have learned anything from Kate, it could be the fine art of grifting. Uggs does this all the time, asking for free show tickets because she says that can't find them herself, even though there are hundreds of tickets left. I just read some tweets from another Kate fan to a celebrity and it's a similar MO, even posting her phone number:
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@Usher I'm an Edmontonian but I can't afford tickets to your concert tomorrow night-I'm a single mom raising a 21yr old daughter !
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@Usher It would be a DREAM COME TRUE if my 21 yr old daughter xxxxxxx could meet you in person,while you are in Edmonton,AB,Canada!
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@Usher If you can make this dream come true,please call me @ xxxxxxx
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@Usher My 21yr old daughter has global learning delays-her self-esteem is low right now but she's a great young lady who adores you!HELP?
And, just like Mrs. Uggs, she's trying to connect with celebrities:
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@joeymcintyre I just wanted to let you know I've been thinking of you a lot lately-I'm here for you if you ever want to chat online?
What is WITH these people that they think celebrities have any interest in them? I remember Uggs telling Kate a few times that if Kate ever needs her, she's there for her. For what purpose?
Maybe she can get a guest zombie on The Walking Dead.
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She could always play a dead body on any
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Can you play a dead boy or a zombie with a stick up her butt?
Wouldn't she have to remove it first and make TFM guard it then she can re-insert it later.
The magnificent TFW's life isn't supposed to be relatable! She's got EIGHT kids for gosh sakes and she deserves her mansion, swimming pool and leather couch. We the mediocre public can only admire her from afar and the haters can only be 24/7 jelus
You nailed it with this comment.
ur dirty secret @Urdirtysecret 48m48 minutes ago
@Kateplusmy8 ya and theres a medior shower tonite too
lol! I guess if you can't spell, you just sound it out!
Kate is a twit said... 3
She could always play a dead body on any one of the numerous crime shows. That doesn't require any acting skills. She just has to lie there and do nothing, which is one thing she should have down pat.
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Tom Bergeron, the host of Dancing With The Stars and America's Funniest Home Videos, played a TV host who became a dead body on Castle. It was a bit of stunt casting, since he actually is a TV host of sorts, and Castle follows DWTS on ABC. Apparently it's not as easy as you'd think to play a dead body.
Kate is a twit said... 3
Maybe she can get a guest zombie on The Walking Dead.
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She could always play a dead body on any one of the numerous crime shows. That doesn't require any acting skills. She just has to lie there and do nothing, which is one thing she should have down pat.
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TFW can't act her way out of a paper bag, but she lives for the victim roles.
About the only non-stiff gig TFW could possibly get would be Stalker. They should be able to get a sufficiently cretinous-looking type from central casting once they figure out how to write for FUFK. Man? Woman? Angry hermaphrodite? Alien? Something else?
TFW loves playing the victim so much, she's typecast herself. No gigs for her that involve assertiveness, assisting the main characters, or leadership.
BaHaHa, TFW made it into one of Niki Minaj's gross songs..... have a listen, it is near the beginning.
http://www.fishwrapper.com/post/2014/12/12/nicki-minaj-only-video-drake-chris-brown-gross-pictures-photos-pics-videos-music-trashy-lyrics/
Do you think Kate could lay there long enough as a dead body without saying anything to draw the attention to herself? I picture a long drawn out comedy death scene. Something like the Carol Burnet show did or would have done.
Speaking of TFW playing a corpse...remember when Lucy Ricardo
got a part as a body when they were visiting Hollywood, and she wrote
her name on the souls of her shoes? I can imagine TFW lying on a
slab, holding up 8 fingers.
OMG too hilarious, will try to post this, found on my FB wall..
https://www.facebook.com/Couponing4you1/photos/a.591003907580482.145919.285784594769083/1015878848426317/?type=1&theater
I got likes when I said it looked like K8 giving birth to her litter
franky
Even here in French Quebec, she is ridiculed. If the last post goes through, I will show you. She is a meme here, bwahahahaha
franky
O/T thiese two crack me up:
Melissa Gilbert @MelissaEGilbert Dec 11
This is one sexy boot! #tornligaments #notfestive http://instagram.com/p/weeCdovoC9/
Arngrim @Arngrim 19h19 hours ago
@MelissaEGilbert Why am I now humming the Darth Vader theme from Star Wars? #stormtroopershoes #footieouchie
Melissa Gilbert @MelissaEGilbert 12m12 minutes ago
@Arngrim I will cut you
I loved that episode of I love Lucy! Lucy's bids for fame were always hilarious, never annoying like Kate's. Of course it was a fictional character, not the realest reality show...
Localyocul (#23), thanks for posting that exchange between Half
Pint and Nellie! Imagine if it had been between TFW and Jamie?
Gladys would already have herself in the convo by now:
"Those boots are made for walkin'-LOL! I should send u pic of
me wearing boots! #LotsInCommon#FancyFeet"
I know! That very heavy headdress that Lucy had to balance coming down the stairs was hilarious. If you look closely when she is sliding down the bannister, there is a brown blanket over the rail so she would slide down easier and faster! When she gets up from the railing, the man took it off and it was placed back on the top of the bannister.
chefsummer said...15
Wouldn't she have to remove it first and make TFM guard it then she can re-insert it later.
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I am sure after guarding the stick, TFM would love to re-insert the stick back in for her.
In the Big Chill, Kevin Costner was cast as the dead character Alex, but all scenes showing his face were cut. The Big Chill was filmed entirely on location in Beaufort, South Carolina and was shot at the same antebellum house used as a location for The Great Santini.
Yes, she could get a part in the Walking Dead.
Maybe Babs could lend her the Halloween costume that she wore on the View. The one with all naked, plastic babies in her mangled hair! Gosh, that was awful!
Babs didn't look quite as coif as she normally did on the View when she plugged her show on Sunday night. Her hair was much thinner, her makeup to me didn't look like before, she looked exhausted andtired. They could not of been using those expensive soft pink lights that have to be water cooled, because the difference is very obvious.
Sideline Observer said...20
About the only non-stiff gig TFW could possibly get would be Stalker. They should be able to get a sufficiently cretinous-looking type from central casting once they figure out how to write for FUFK. Man? Woman? Angry hermaphrodite? Alien? Something else?
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Wow. I laughed so hard. Thank you, I needed it! Angry Hermaphrodite? Bwahahaha!
Would it have been possible for Jon to have gotten a restraining order against kate for hitting, screaming and threating the kids in the house? That if she continued, she could of been arrested?
"I'm Divorcing the Real-Life Mommy Dearest"
Jamie says his soon-to-be ex-wife, Jennifer, is a real-life "Mommy Dearest" who verbally attacks their two children constantly -- yelling at them, calling them "stupid" and even waking them up at night to correct their chores. He says the drama has gotten so bad, he got a protection order against Jennifer -- something she claims he did in order to force her out of their lives. Jennifer admits she's strict but absolutely denies being abusive and says Jamie is exaggerating. When Dr. Phil brings this estranged couple together in search of a resolution, Jennifer confesses a disturbing and dangerous behavior. When offered a chance to get her life back on track, will Jennifer accept?
I watched the video on E and was shocked at the bedroom the three girls' shared. It looked like there was no furniture, other than their beds, and nothing on the walls and also what appeared to be cheap window treatments. If the girl tups are her favorites over the boys, what did the boys' room look like prior to TLC's paid for renovations? That room just showed me even more how cheap TFW is regarding her children unless TLC pays to remodel and pays for more furniture,etc. Unless TLC is paying for the episode plus the perks, she doesn't care about her kids' rooms and I don't understand how the few remaining fans don't see this. Of course, her priorities were a new kitchen when she moved into the house (even though the old kitchen was basically fine in my opinion), a new gator, new furniture for other rooms, landscaping, and many other perks for her home. She also received new furniture from Lane, but it appears she did not splurge on her kids' bedrooms. I can't forget all her many TLC paid for vacations which continue to this day. The kids always earned the money and their bedrooms appeared sparse and just basically rooms to sleep in, and they appeared messy considering she is supposedly an obsessed neat freak (obviously just her television image). I don't even want to get started on that poor dog Shoka and the way she treats him as an outdoor dog only.
I agree with the pumpkin smashing theory. It was very stupid. I thought of all those pumpkins if they were still good where they could of been eaten, it was a huge waste. She was giving us the old blank you. I have posted several times at my fury at her when Jon had all the kids in the garage, with newspaper spread out and each child was calmly and patiently waiting for their DADDY to carve their pumpkins. ALL EIGHT! She walked in and she couldn't believe her eyes!
It was making her look extremely bad. He could control them, gently, but she can control hers with an iron fist. She just kept on and kept on and Jon was just beside himself having to stop and obey that crazy witch. What he should of done, was get up, get the knife and put it on a high shelf so the kids wouldn't get it and go to her and tell her I need to talk to you, now!
He should of taken her to a room and told her if you don't just get your purse and leave right now, so I can carve their pumpkins, I am going to shut down the cameras and make them leave and never allow this family to film in this house again. I don't care if you go shopping and spend a couple of grand. GET OUT!
I have also posted that Jon should of quietly talked to the producer and had it arranged for kate to go shopping for something and keep her gone for a couple of hours while Jon carved the kids pumpkins. They could of filmed her and she would of loved being on camera without the kids! Then the kids would have a wonderful memory of their dad carving each and every one of their pumpkins. Now all that have is THE WITCH, hollering and grabbing the newspaper and wadding it up while Jon is still sitting there carving.
She is one sick sack of sap.
I thought there was a desk in the girls' room ( wow) But maybe they took down any wall ornaments if they were moving out? Not defending Kate, but the girls did seem to like their bedroom and were being forced to move out.I am surprised the two girls who are close did not make Alexis move into the other single room way before now.that's one of the family dynamics I really dislike and Kate has always encouraged it.
guess my post was lost
oh well, all is good, meme"s rule
franky
Oh, Mylanta! TMZ is reporting that Vivid has sent Mama June a letter offering her AND Sugar Bear, 1 million dollars for a video tape and even more if they do more! The names of the video that the TMZ guys are thinking they should name it are insane!
It would be hilarious if Vivid sent TFW a letter to make a video with her and Steve for 1 million. She just might take them up on it. What would the name of that tape be?
Did anyone catch the boys words in the sneak peak: "This is where we made a lot of memories right guys? We got in trouble a lot in this room". I moved when I was little, several friends moved.It never occured to me and I haven't met a child before the Gosselin boys who tought, when changing theri room(house whatever) about how much they got in trouble in said room.I find it unnatural that that was their first thought.Concerning too.
redbirdsings
many posts not going through, franky is sorry for hijacking your good name
On CWS the girls room was shown and all the was in there was bunk beds, a single bed, a dresser and a small TV on top of the dresser. The bathroom was en suite so at least they had that luxury. Nothing on the walls, nothing any where. The boys room was not shown and the twins room was not shown. It still makes no sense to me that 6 kids (the money makers) are rooted out so the other 2 can have their own rooms. Maybe being #7 out of 12 kids makes this move senseless, unless of course new things for the twins, a new room else where for the boys (basement to make Kate happy) is all free and on TLC. She has not replaced any furniture since the day she moved in and the kids furniture was from the older house.
Formerly Duped...33
I am surprised the two girls who are close did not make Alexis move into the other single room way before now.that's one of the family dynamics I really dislike and Kate has always encouraged it.
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Kate has 4 siblings. She was not a middle child. She was the 2nd child born. She has 3 sisters, Clarissa, Kendra, Christen, and one brother, Kevin. Since she obviously encourages Leah and Hannah to shun Alexis, is it possible that she and another sister did this to another sister or the other 2 sisters. It is so wrong to do this.
Love the tweet between Laura and Nelly. Very funny and Flimsy Flamsy's post about it was even funnier!
Hey, Admin. Hope you and everyone who post here are ok in CA! Fires, floods, rains, landslides, earthquakes and now a tornado in South LA. Hope all posters here are ok and not affected!
FlimsyFlamsy said... 25
Localyocul (#23), thanks for posting that exchange between Half
Pint and Nellie! Imagine if it had been between TFW and Jamie?
Gladys would already have herself in the convo by now:
"Those boots are made for walkin'-LOL! I should send u pic of
me wearing boots! #LotsInCommon#FancyFeet"
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Haha yes I refrained from to watch out because Alyson could push her down a hill in her wheelchair
I had to laugh at Kate staring at her reflection in the cookie sheet pan while she's mixing up the batter for Shoka's birthday cake. lol! She's such a narcissist.
Way OT for a minute - Am I the only one that is a bit weirded out by so many people sharing versions of the song Hallelujah as if it's a xmas devotional? Do people just listen to the chorus & not the actual lyrics? I love the song but it's a beautiful, poetic, cynical song about a dysfunctional relationship...not a spiritual ode God. Ok veranda friends...thanks for letting me get that off my chest....back to Kate & her silliness.
She has 3 sisters, Clarissa, Kendra, Christen, and one brother, Kevin.
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Actually, it's Clairissa, named after her grandfather, Clair E. Kreider. Kate's middle name, Irene, was her grandmother's middle name. She died this past summer.
You know, I'm kind of looking forward to watching the ratings plummet from one episode to the next. The sheeple (and Kate) seem to think that everyone adores this family and Kate is a big star. But if the ratings bottom out, once again, (and they will, judging from the half-million drop between the first and second summer specials), what will they do? Will they blame it on Jon? On Robert? Will they march around Wal-Mart parking lots with "Watch Kate Plus 8" signs again? This could be highly amusing!
AuntieAnn (#44), it'd be funny if TFW looked at her reflection and
saw the "old" TFW looking back at her -- not sure she'd even
recognize herself. That'd make a great photoshopped picture
(no, Admin, I'm not hinting -- you need to rest up for the recaps!).
Admin, I agree with you totally! In this day and age no one should enjoy parents parading children for the television audience to view. There is no way to control who/what is in that audience. Apparently, money overrides good sense to TFW.
(Leslie)
I wonder if the tup girls are going to take Mady and Cara's old bedroom and the tup boys are getting a new renovated bedroom in the basement. I remember Kate tweeting or saying that she always heard the tups 12 feet making noise above her bedroom. So I bet this move is just as much for her as it is for the kids. Plus she got a free renovation out of it.
It seems fitting she would move the boys in the basement to live. I wonder if all the tup girls are going in the same bedroom again or maybe Alexis will have the third little bedroom upstairs with Mady and Cara. It seems like nobody likes Alexis. SO SAD!
Rainbirdie said... 45
Way OT for a minute - Am I the only one that is a bit weirded out by so many people sharing versions of the song Hallelujah as if it's a xmas devotional? Do people just listen to the chorus & not the actual lyrics? I love the song but it's a beautiful, poetic, cynical song about a dysfunctional relationship...not a spiritual ode God.
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Thank You! I can't believe how people are making this out to be some kind of seasonal psalm. Pay attention to the lyrics. I believe that great Canadian songwriter, Leonard Cohen, wrote it that way for a reason. If all it takes is Hallelujah then you can look forward to hearing this one in church on Sunday. LOL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uKbIkYGsIg
PJ
Rainbirdie 45
I'm confused. Are you referring to Handel's Messiah?
redbirdsings said... 37
It would be hilarious if Vivid sent TFW a letter to make a video with her and Steve for 1 million. She just might take them up on it. What would the name of that tape be?
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The name of the tape would be "Pass the Eye Bleach"
So wait....we're not talking about the Hallelujah Chorus right? I'm totally lost.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 21h21 hours ago
@Kateplusmy8 All ur kids R adorable& unique..but Aaden comes up w/some of the sweetest moments. AustralianZoo panic worrying abt U! #BigCroc
Elle O'Elle
@NotJenD
@MiloandJack @Kateplusmy8 those Gosselin kids are no more adorable or unique than any kid out there in middle America.Stop w the worshipping
http://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/2014/12/kate-gosselin-puts-awful-parenting-on-display-in-new-kate-plus-8/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheHollywoodGossip+%28The+Hollywood+Gossip%29
Kate worst Mom ever.... http://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/slideshows/23-photos-of-a-terrible-mother/the-worst-mom-of-all-time/
Rainbirdie, thank you. I had no clue about the song. I just looked up the lyrics. Anon/PJ, you are right. It should not be a Christmas song.
Just as the line says, Maybe there is a God, my dad constantly says this and I am constantly correcting him, which to my sadness is futile.
Rhymes with Witch said... 52
NJGal51 said... 54
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Sorry. I was referring to the Leonard Cohen song 'Hallelujah'. There's a new version out that several of my friends have been passing around. Time mag online said in its headline for the link to it that the cover "will get you in the holiday spirit". I mentioned to a few friends that posted it that I was surprised that anyone would think it was a holiday song. And several actually disagreed with me. So I guess lyrics are no longer important to a song meaning lol! http://time.com/3629078/leonard-cohen-hallelujah-peter-hollens-cover/
I just think it is awful that Hallmark channel holds that channel hostage with Christmas movies, 24/7. I like a few Christmas movies, but to start the movie marathon the day after Thanksgiving until Jan. is ridiculous. I think they started it even earlier this time.
It would be great if they would show starting at 12 midnight, GG girls, then Fraiser, Cheers, I Love Lucy like they normally do then the movies. They have a marathon of the GG girls on TVland right now and I am thinking the ratings are higher right now of the GG girls than the Christmas movies that are being shown right now.
Another 3 weeks to go back to regular programming and then CA!
This tweet just shows how it's all about Kate and not about the kids.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack
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@Kateplusmy8 Born fr crisis that you go thru keeping up w/your teenagers >> "A mothers research is more thorough than the FBI" #MomLove :)
Crisis? WTF? Since when is having a teenager a crisis? Milo has 2 teenagers. She's not only dissing Mady & Cara, she's dissing her own children. Yes, having teenagers(as well as all kids) can be difficult at times, but calling it a "crisis" is just so over the top, even for Milo.
Then she adds:
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 11m11 minutes ago
@Kateplusmy8 Having said that N regards 2just keeping up w/2 here..I pray 4U every day as U begin this journey w/all eight! LOL #StayCalm
She prays for Kate? If Kate is such a wonderful mother, why would Kate need her prayers?
Miss Positivity sure isn't acting so positive.
Now this is a tweet that Milo should have sent directly to Kate, because it definitely applies to her:
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 7m7 minutes ago
Work for a cause, not applause. Live life to express, not impress. Don't strive to make your presence noticed, just make your absence felt.
Hijacking my good name?
HUH?? My posting floodgate just opened up today!
BC made a comment to Page 6, New York Post. Poor Shirley!
Milo must have no or little experience with kids or she would realize there is nothing unique about these children. Mattie Stepanek is a rare remarkable child. They are not that common.
Redbird thanks everything is fine here, just a little wet and we need it.
I've watched a little national news to see how they report this. It's kind of interesting actually being in the place where it is happening. L.A. is a city of 3.8 million people. The mudslides and other debris zones are just in a few areas, most of them quite remote and up in the foothills, and only affect a tiny minority of neighborhoods. Here, it's fine. There are no evacuations or other panic. I don't know anything about that tornado, I never heard any weather that remotely would give me concern to watch for that. Apparently I'm only 20 minutes or so from it but here you'd never know it happened.
In fact I was on Pacific Coast Highway today and drove up and down it 45 minutes each way without ever encountering the one or two spots where there were problems on it. I nearly forgot they had a mudslide on it until I was driving ON the road and I was scratching my head trying to remember if where I was going was before or after the area that was closed down. Hehe, it was before, thankfully!
Long story short, the real danger zones are isolated and few and far between, thankfully.
Rainbirdie 59, thank you so much for clarifying. I agree with you about LC.
I never looked at the lyrics of Hallelujah that carefully but now that I have it's actually rather sexual.
And this was a song used on the Shrek soundtrack, a kids' movie.
I think it's haunting and pretty, but I don't understand why it would be a xmas song! It was really popular when I was in college and we listened to it a lot. I got thoroughly sick of it then and I don't think I've listened to it in full since.
FlimsyFlamsy said... 48
AuntieAnn (#44), it'd be funny if TFW looked at her reflection and saw the "old" TFW looking back at her -- not sure she'd even recognize herself.
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Yep, when you look at her in their very first Raising Sextuplets special she is not the same person at all. I'm curious as to how much of the kids' money she's wasted over the years to give herself that evil Barbie Doll from Hell look.
Leonard Cohen's version is a modern take on the Bible story of David having an affair with his friend's wife, Bathsheba, isn't it?
Miss Positivity sure isn't acting so positive.
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Probably because in the preview clip Kate said she feels so overwhelmed at times that it's hard to stay positive. So of course Gladys jumps right in to support the poor thing.
Too bad. Suck it up Shmoops. You shouldn't have had them if you can't handle motherhood.
a cafe in Sydney, Australia is under siege by ISIS terrorists.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 11m11 minutes ago
@Kateplusmy8 Having said that N regards 2just keeping up w/2 here..I pray 4U every day as U begin this journey w/all eight! LOL #StayCalm
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If Milo really does have children, it sounds like she did a lousy job raising them and that they are out of control teens, defiant, ill-mannered, and not at all well behaved.
Formerly Duped said... 70
Leonard Cohen's version is a modern take on the Bible story of David having an affair with his friend's wife, Bathsheba, isn't it?
Yes, you are absolutely correct.
You know, I'm kind of looking forward to watching the ratings plummet from one episode to the next.
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I don't understand their agenda. If the Kate show was cancelled due to poor ratings, why would TLC think that a series of specials would be good enough to sustain viewers? It would seem that they should have learned the first time around, and now they're going back for more.
In 2009, Leonard Cohen asked for a halt to new versions of Hallelujah. Looks like he didn't get it.
Link:
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/leonard-cohen-asks-for-brief-halt-to-new-covers-of-hallelujah-20090710
or you can google it.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 1h1 hour ago
@Kateplusmy8 Bedtime cometh 4those still N school! What made you smile today? #CareToShare
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 1h1 hour ago
@Shortnsaszy @Kateplusmy8 This sequential stuff can be complicated! 1-2-3 LOL Now Kate has me looking at numbers 2nite on tax stuff!
Her entire life revolves around Kate. What a pathetic existence. To love someone that intensely and not have it reciprocated. I wonder if Milo thinks about Kate when she's showering, or sitting on the potty.
Eye bleach, please.
Midnight Madness posted Milo's tweet:
Bedtime cometh 4those still N school! What made you smile today? #CareToShare
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My Goodness! She takes being nosy to a whole new level! If she was tweeting me that, she would be blocked. If she/he/it is not in love with TFW, then what the heck is it?
I don't understand their agenda. If the Kate show was cancelled due to poor ratings, why would TLC think that a series of specials would be good enough to sustain viewers? It
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I don't understand it either. Ratings were below one million in the waning hours of the show's final season. It's pretty darn rare for a show that was cancelled with ratings that low to come back in any form. I have to hand it to her, she pulled off something pretty impressive getting this show back on TV even if it's brief. Much bigger celebs have been wholly unsuccessful keeping a dying show alive or bringing it back from the dead. Once in a blue moon somebody like Netflix will pick up some dead show. I can think of some shows cancelled that deserve a second chance way more than this does--My So Called Life and Freaks and Geeks to name a few. The only thing that might make sense is that they think the ratings were so low in the last season because there were too many episodes. If they keep the seasons very brief, allowing lots of time for anticipation to build (for instance, it's been more than 6 months since the last update special), maybe they expect much different results in the ratings department. Who knows, I guess we'll see.
Kate is a twit said... 3
She could always play a dead body on any one of the numerous crime shows. That doesn't require any acting skills. She just has to lie there and do nothing, which is one thing she should have down pat.
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Ha, KIAT. She IS very good at doing nothing. But she could never pull off being a corpse. It takes too much concentration and discipline to play dead. You have to lay there and not blink, or breathe, or twitch, or move a muscle. And you have to stay in or resume the exact same position for long periods of time. No. Concentration and discipline are two of the many traits TFW is sorely lacking in, so we can definitely scratch "dead body" off the list of things she could possibly be good at.
TLC is perfectly happy with ratings in the one million range. She probably had a smart attorney draw up a contract that requires specials if the show was cancelled. Also, she's someone's sugar baby at TLC, IMO.
Someone posted this on FB this a.m. & I thought it was fitting:
Children shouldn't have to sacrifice
so that you can have the life you want.
You make sacrifices
so that your children can have the life they deserve.
Something I find very interesting happened on my twitter just the other day. I was following both Kate and Milo basically for the entertainment value and would occasionally comment on some of the nonsense that came from Milo. Well, the other day I commented asking Milo why she always has to butt into conversations that she is not a part of when it concerns Kate. Well, lo and behold she blocked me. Not that I care but I thought it was VERY strange that at the same time Kate blocks me also. This has me totally convinced that Milo is either Kate herself of someone very close to her, maybe even her mother. Just wanted to see what you all here think.
Terri said... 83
Something I find very interesting happened on my twitter just the other day. I was following both Kate and Milo basically for the entertainment value and would occasionally comment on some of the nonsense that came from Milo. Well, the other day I commented asking Milo why she always has to butt into conversations that she is not a part of when it concerns Kate. Well, lo and behold she blocked me. Not that I care but I thought it was VERY strange that at the same time Kate blocks me also. This has me totally convinced that Milo is either Kate herself of someone very close to her, maybe even her mother. Just wanted to see what you all here think.
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Very interesting! I have a Twitter account and although I don't follow any of the non-fans, I do read their timelines once or twice a week. The other day two of them blocked me (I've never tweeted either of them) and keep a pretty low profile on Twitter. When I checked my various devices, I found I wasn't blocked on my iPad but was blocked on my Mac and iPhone. Then it cleared up - I was able to see the exact same two. And then, a few hours later, I was again blocked by the same two accounts on two out of three devices. I wonder if it's some kind of Twitter glitch? You'd think a true Twitter block would affect all devices. It also made me wonder if these two very vocal fans were one and the same.
Yikes! The above should say "I don't follow any of the fans, not non-fans". I do follow non-fans.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 67
I never looked at the lyrics of Hallelujah that carefully but now that I have it's actually rather sexual.
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Which is why it also bothers me when people post videos of their 8 year olds singing it.
Why the heck does Kate refer to her kids as "little miniature Pilgrim children, and why do the boys have adults dressing them like they're 2-year olds?
They must have just gotten hustled into the park at 5 and rushed to dress up and get footage.
I don't think I would have agreed to wearing silly costumes as a kid.
My family went to New England when I was that age, and fortunately, I got to wear my own clothing.
Nothing like making 10-year old boys wear knickers and knee socks.
Tucker's Mom said... 87
Why the heck does Kate refer to her kids as "little miniature Pilgrim children, and why do the boys have adults dressing them like they're 2-year olds?
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Listen to it again. She said "pilgrimIE" children, Tucker's. She thinks adding 'ie' to words is cute. It's not.
She's a complete and utter fool of a mother who doesn't give a damn about her kids' feelings or the teasing they'll get from their friends. As long as she can keep making money off their backs, that's all that matters.
Another thing that pissed me off about that clip is why did she lie down on the bed in the English Village? Who the hell does she think she is? It doesn't matter if the furnishings are reproductions, it's still a museum. I'll bet they politely ask people NOT to sit on the chairs or lay on the bed. But hey, she's Kate Gosselin, the poor, exhausted, overwhelmed mom of eight with a reality show, so she's allowed? I don't think so. She has no respect for anything and she shows it everywhere she goes.
I thought the Pilgrimie Village allows sleep overs- I wonder if they were forced to do that.
If Kate did just sprawl out on the bed because she's so tiredish, then she's a tool.
I wonder if Stevie had to don the knickers too??
Hubba hubba- what a turn on.
AuntieAnn said...88
Another thing that pissed me off about that clip is why did she lie down on the bed in the English Village? Who the hell does she think she is?
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She is an idiot. I wondered about that too, laying down like that. Did you see her squeeze that soft mattress next to her like a package of Charmin and says, This is concerning.
What on earth is wrong with her. Saw on HLN that a mother driving a van at a high rate of speed with her 6 kids inside and she would not slow down and pull over. Finally, she did and the kids were SO upset. The State Trooper asked one of the girls if they knew why their mother would not pull over and she said, because mom thought that you were going to take us away and separate us from her.
They rounded all the kids up and put them in the police car and ordered PIZZA for them because they were hungry. They had the mom handcuffed and they made her walk in front of the police car and the ST made her get down on her knees and sit.
She is being charged with felonies and 6 counts of child endangerment. They also said she had mental issues.
Reminded me SO MUCH of Leadfoot Kreider.
Is anybody having to do the captcha as in are you a robot any more?
Fired Up 4 Kate@MiloandJack·28 mins28 minutes ago
@TLC @Kateplusmy8 W/6girls to 3boys ratio N family..how do U as single Mom help ur boys 2maintain their masculinity & identity? #KatePlus8
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Oh no you didn't, Gladys. Who the hell do you think you are, concerning yourself with the boys' masculinity? You are disgusting.
Wow, Milo. So boys raised by single mothers need help maintaining their masculinity? What an ignorant assumption. Is she suggesting boys raised by women or around lots of sisters will turn out gay without focusing on preserving their masculinity? Ignorant Bible belt dolt.
Not to mention, Kate is not a single mom. The boys have a father. Even if one supposes you need a man in your life to maintain your masculinity, they have one.
Kate worst Mom ever.... http://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/slideshows/23-photos-of-a-terrible-mother/the-worst-mom-of-all-time/
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I agree. She is still trying to "infantilize" her kids, who are almost 11, so can show how much work she has to do, how much they need her as toddlers, and how adorable the "little" kids are. That ship has sailed long ago. Try calling them "younger" kids out of respect, as they were your "gravy" train.
She can't let go of the "branding" as the kids outgrow the original show.
It is scary and embarrassing that she is still trying advertise them this way.
Oh no you didn't, Gladys. Who the hell do you think you are, concerning yourself with the boys' masculinity? You are disgusting.
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She just won't shut up. She's not only a moron, but scary and creepy as well. Three strikes against her. Be careful, Kate. This one has more than a few loose screws.
Sorry if this goes through twice -- I keep writing posts that
disappear!
Gladys' tweet to TLC really reveals her level of denial about her
true love. Any fool can see TFW does NOTHING to separate, individuate, elevate, maintain -- anything that requires effort,
basically -- when it comes to the 6. They are a pack.
Whether it's 6 Little Pumpkins or 6 Little Pilgrims, the last
thing on their mother's mind is trying to do anything for them
individually.
TFW has repeatedly said unkind things about the boys and men
in her life (except her dead grandpa -- apparently he was the bee's knees). Dirty, icky, smelly, messy, sneaky, stubborn. Sneering, "What a man!" as her husband tried to iron his shirt so he'd look
nice at dinner. Snarling "Man up!" to her little boy, whose feet hurt walking in new cowboy boots.
So, please, Gladys, don't encourage TFW to help "maintain" the
G boys' masculinity. It could mean being banished to the
garage apartment.
redbirdsings said... 91
Is anybody having to do the captcha as in are you a robot any more?
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Nope, Redbird. It went away. Poof. Just like that. One minute it was there, the next it was gone. Be grateful for small favors! :)
Tucker's Mom said... 89
I thought the Pilgrimie Village allows sleep overs- I wonder if they were forced to do that.
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According to their website they do have overnight sleepovers, but participants bring their own bedding and sleep in a modern building and it's for groups with a minimum of 20 people. Let's see, Shmoops and the monkey, eight kids, two friends, a couple of nannies, and the camera crew... might add up to twenty if Kate and Steve didn't run off to another hotel to be by themselves again.
Terri, not surprised because I once thought that Milo was Kate's mother but convinced now it has to be someone working with or for Kate. If it's Kate, which I doubt because she's too lazy, then the men in the white coats better come and take her away pretending she's her own fan, LOL.
I believe someone mentioned that they thought Ashley was one of the nannies that went on the vacation filming. If that's the case, then the drama of Ashley leaving during the RV episode was scripted (or Kate paid her off). Really disappointing that this girl is still involved. She seemed sincere.
Not that I care but I thought it was VERY strange that at the same time Kate blocks me also. This has me totally convinced that Milo is either Kate herself of someone very close to her, maybe even her mother.
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But so many of her tweets have a sexual undertone...the rockin hot body, the daisy dukes, the great physique, walking together in the sunset, candles burning in the bathroom when she takes a bath, grow-a-boyfriend, and so many others. I just can't see Kate tweeting these things to herself, and I can't imagine a mother doing that. If it were Kate, and eventually would be outed, I'd want to hide in a closet and never come out. I'd be so embarrassed.
This clearly is a person with a physical attraction to Kate, not just a platonic one.
TFW does nothing if not foreshadow....so if Milo is talking about the boys maintaining their masculinity/keeping identity, be prepared that there was/will be filming of some event that was boys only....so that they could maintain their masculinity will be the excuse.
Or maybe Jon had only the boys someplace and they were inadvertently photo'd or something.
God Milo butt out will you.
I'm sure JON is doing a fine job of teaching his boys how to be fine young men.
And if Kate didn't throw her side of the family away the boy could have uncle Kevin and their uncles from their aunties and their grandfather's.
Just shut up Milo you're making your queen look bad.
redbirdsings said... 90
What on earth is wrong with her.
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I'm pretty sure a team of researchers at the Department of Psychiatry at Johns Hopkins Medicine is working on that very question.
PatK said... 92
Fired Up 4 Kate@MiloandJack·28 mins28 minutes ago
@TLC @Kateplusmy8 W/6girls to 3boys ratio N family..how do U as single Mom help ur boys 2maintain their masculinity & identity? #KatePlus8
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Oh no you didn't, Gladys. Who the hell do you think you are, concerning yourself with the boys' masculinity? You are disgusting.
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Milo is official a POS.
They have a father, you pathetic, hateful, spiteful mysandrist.
Oh, and they have an uncle and grandfather, but like Jon, they got kicked to the curb by Kate.
Jeebus, that makes me see red.
How sad is it that the only testosterone in their life is the hired help.
The biggest impediment to the boys not getting enough "masculinity" in their lives is the fact that they have to hang out with 5 sisters all the damn time.
Not ONE boy in Scouts or sports or any other organization that would surround them with other boys and male role models.
That's all Kate.
Blowing In The Wind said... 100
But so many of her tweets have a sexual undertone...the rockin hot body, the daisy dukes, the great physique, walking together in the sunset, candles burning in the bathroom when she takes a bath, grow-a-boyfriend, and so many others. I just can't see Kate tweeting these things to herself, and I can't imagine a mother doing that. If it were Kate, and eventually would be outed, I'd want to hide in a closet and never come out. I'd be so embarrassed.
This clearly is a person with a physical attraction to Kate, not just a platonic one.
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For a couple of years now, going by her TL, I've thought Gladys might be a lesbian.
Did TFW think that they were going to have to sleep in the beds that she laid down on? When she touched that mattress beside her and said, This is concerning. She was thinking about STEVE'S comfort and she would do anything to make sure he was comfortable and fed plenty of pizza. Jackwagon!
Poor Mady!
Also, WHY is Mady? screaming crying slipping into that Pilgrim costume? Why were the boys in adult costumes?
Just Unadulterated Chaos.
I just hate to think that the G boys will have to defend the father they love against disgusting man haters like Milo.
Milo acts as if Jon is dead and therefore, the boys have no father.
How hurtful and how utterly cruel.
Really, I blame Kate and her "single mom" schtick. Especially when she came right out and said that Jon shouldn't have any say in how the kids are raised.
They are both sick pups.
Also, WHY is Mady? screaming crying slipping into that Pilgrim costume? Why were the boys in adult costumes?
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Because she's been raised as a trained seal. Cameras turn on and so does she.
Well tfw disposed of jon's balls, I guess Milo has some legitimate concerns.
snark
Mady does act and speak a lot like Kate; Cara, when she talks, seems full of anger and vitriol towards her mother. I wonder if the twins had a falling out of sorts, wanting their own bedrooms now. Should be their business but now it's a 'special'
Tucker's Mom said... 110
Also, WHY is Mady? screaming crying slipping into that Pilgrim costume? Why were the boys in adult costumes?
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Because she's been raised as a trained seal. Cameras turn on and so does she.
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Glad someone finally said it!
Mady has been trying to get Kate's attention for years. She finally found a way to win her mother over so I can't blame her for her behavior. Actually I have to give her credit for outsmarting TFW. Maybe she'll beat her at her own game and dump her mom someday, just like her mom dumped people who were no longer useful to her.
Well tfw disposed of jon's balls, I guess Milo has some legitimate concerns.
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True, even though it is snark. I wonder about this. If Milo was raised with the fundamental Bible belt mentality (like the Duggars) where man is king, and wives submit unto their husbands as directed in the Scriptures, then why does she approve of Kate grabbing his balls and basically emasculating him? Gladys must have seen how she treated him, the constant berating, her way or no way, and yet she approves of Kate's behavior. Milo has inferred that LOM is the boss of her family, and I recall her tweeting that a few times when she apparently was in dispute with him over something. I would believe that he manages her life. Why, then, was it fine and dandy for Kate to treat Jon like a second-class citizen? Makes no sense. I guess, though, when you're in love like she is with Kate, you can overlook these things.
Kravitz is a conundrum.
Tucker's Mom said... 109
I just hate to think that the G boys will have to defend the father they love against disgusting man haters like Milo.
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I don't think that Milo hates all men, only Jon because of what she thinks he did to her precious Kate. Who knows, though, that deep inside she doesn't despise her "hubs" of ruling the roost?
PatK said... 113
Tucker's Mom said... 110
Also, WHY is Mady? screaming crying slipping into that Pilgrim costume? Why were the boys in adult costumes?
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Because she's been raised as a trained seal. Cameras turn on and so does she.
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Glad someone finally said it!
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I don't mean to be indelicate, I really don't, but Mady has always been very aware of the camera.
I think back to when she was 6 and the camera crew creepily followed her alone, down into the basement, where she proceeded to writhe around on the floor, for want of something to offer them behavior-wise.
I think a lot of her outbursts were amped up for the cameras too.
Now, it's her sassiness that seems to rear its ugly head.
For a couple of years now, going by her TL, I've thought Gladys might be a lesbian.
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It's possible. Do you think that she really is married with a husband and kids, and hiding her sexuality, or do you believe that she is just a single, lonely woman with a lust for Kate, or is "she" a male catfish who many times can't help but tweet his strong desire for Kate?
So many questions, but no answers yet! :)
Mady suffers from what I'll call the Ruthie and Simon syndrome.
Ruthie and Simon were the youngest (until the twins were born) kids on Seventh Heaven. They were the most precocious, loud, sassiest, disrespectful, sneakiest, unreal kids ever. Viewers loved them. Those that wrote recaps for TWOP and anyone else who hated that show couldn't stand them, found them exceedingly annoying. Of course we knew they were just characters, it was understood this was bad writing.
But it demonstrates the point in that for some reason some TV people think a sassy loud and obnoxious kid is good TV.
MsGoody2Shoes21 @msgoody2shoes21 29m29 minutes ago
@mscatie @MiloandJack @TLC @Kateplusmy8 I bet you Jon isn't keeping all his kids during visitation. He moved to a #TeenyTinyApt. Remember?
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Crazy Goody is back, putting in her two cents. So Jon can't be a role model for his kids, making sure his sons grow into fine young men because he lives in a "teeny tiny apartment?"
Break open a bottle of scotch...it's better than banging the head on the wall! I can't believe that some of these sheeple are wandering around unsupervised in society.
"But it demonstrates the point in that for some reason some TV people think a sassy loud and obnoxious kid is good TV."
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True. But in the case of a "reality" show, it doesn't cut it. And it truly doesn't help one's chances of getting that coveted Disney gig. (Ha.)
But it demonstrates the point in that for some reason some TV people think a sassy loud and obnoxious kid is good TV.
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It's a very fine line to toe. Precocious, sassy kids can be funny.
Until they're not.
I don't think that Singer can keep up with the damage control...
"An Atlanta college is suspending its endowed professorship with Bill Cosby amid allegations by more than two dozen women that the comedian and actor sexually assaulted them.
Spelman College is the latest school to disassociate itself from Cosby.
Spelman says in a statement that the program was established in the name of Cosby and wife Camille to bring positive attention and scholars to the campus. It says the goal was "to enhance our intellectual, cultural and creative life."
In the statement, the college says the current situation "prevents us from continuing to meet these objectives fully" and the program will be suspended until the goals can again be met.
Cosby has denied the allegations, but he has been mostly silent about the accusations."
Admin said:
But it demonstrates the point in that for some reason some TV people think a sassy loud and obnoxious kid is good TV.
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Sadly, this viewpoint of today's children, and today's teen especially, seems to be prevalent. I mean, that kids today are disrespectful, lazy, sit around all day playing video games, and are otherwise not as "good" as children of yesteryear.
I really dislike that point of view, probably because I have a teenager. My son is far from perfect. But I see a tremendous amount of difference between the teen I was and the teens I knew in the '70's and 80's, to my son's particular group of friends. For one thing, I was ignorantly racist. My school was comprised of probably 90% white, with the rest being Filippino, Hispanic and maybe 1% black. We were in essence, segregated. There were a lot of jokes that were openly racist. The different groups didn't associate much. If you wanted to buy cocaine, it was easily available. Same goes for marijuana. The rich kids did cocaine, while the less rich ones smoked pot. Some kids were lazy, some were disrespectful, and a good majority were just average kids trying not to get into trouble.
It was much easier to get into college with average grades. I didn't have to worry about participating in a lot of extra curricular activities in order to impress the college entrance board. I basically skated through high school. I am not impressed with myself as a high schooler.
By contrast, my son was shocked the other day when we were driving and stopped to chat with an elderly neighbor. She made a comment about too many Mexicans were moving into our area. One of my son's best friends is Latino, and he himself is self-taught bilingual. He understand the older generation doesn't have the same open mind as he and his friends, who are white, Latino, black, Indian, Korean, etc.
He has to put in a certain number of community service hours in order to graduate. He has to strive for a greater than 4.0 GPA. He's playing lacrosse and is on the ASB. In other words, he's working his butt off to better his chances of getting into college.
Okay, off my soap box. But that's one reason I hate seeing kids portrayed as rude or bratty on TV, as if that's funny or acceptable. Most parents I know do not allow such behavior, and a lot of the kids I know are quite polite kids just trying to do their best.
Jon's lack of a consistent domicile concerns me too, but it certainly doesn't mean the children can't stay with him.
Jon needs to pull it together- there, I said that too ;-)
Millicent, I think that is true for many kids. Your son sounds great! But I do think there is a decline in manners, use of obscenities, respect for elders and parents, bullying, competition for material perks, striving for 'the look' of the popular kids , all more prevalent today than in our teenage times.Kids still do drugs and have unprotected sex, drink themselves into alcohol poisoning and are glued to social media.
I also know that high schools can side with rule-breaking students who are athletes and not give them detention, count trivial things for community service,and raise their grades so they can remain on a sports team. This happens in the school my kids went to and I was saddened and shocked. As for the dress code...!!!
I do agree there are good kids out there, and also racism is one area where strides have been made this generation. JMO and experience with my own kids.
PA Dutch Mom said... 123
I don't think that Singer can keep up with the damage control...
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I watched Beverly Johnson on The View today and she recounted her story in great detail.
Whoopi has tweeted her support of Cosby, despite the number of woman who have come forward. You could tell she just wanted to rip Johnson's story apart.
I agree with Millicent that one of the big reasons I hate the "sassy kid" thing they do on TV is that it's not REAL. Most kids do not act like that or if they did it would not be tolerated.
Kids today are no worse than we were as kids. Although I do think some of this generation are very coddled, that's a problem with parenting, not the kids themselves. Kids were not born helicoptered. Parents made them so. When allowed to run the show, kids act like the Gosselins as any kid would whether born in 1850, 1950, or 2004.
You can always find people of all generations lamenting about "kids."
Point being though that for some reason "sassy kids" is in vogue on TV and has been for at least a few decades. It's not real or attractive, IMO, but it's what TLC is going for. Problem is it's all fun and games when it's Ruthie. These are REAL children, and that's a whole different thing.
I also know that high schools can side with rule-breaking students who are athletes and not give them detention, count trivial things for community service,and raise their grades so they can remain on a sports team. This happens in the school my kids went to and I was saddened and shocked. As for the dress code...!!!
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That's happened for forty years. If anything we're actually doing a much better job of cracking down on athletes not treating them special.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...
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Well, JMO- it happens to this day in our area...I guess it depends on the school and region maybe.My son was bullied by a football player and was given a detention on a Saturday cleaning up the cafeteria which also was credit for community service! That way he could play and start in the game that night. One example.
Camille Cosby has broken her silence and paints her husband, accused by over 20 women of drugging and raping them, as the victim.
Hello, Mrs. Sandusky.
Click WaPo article
PA Dutch Mom said... 118
For a couple of years now, going by her TL, I've thought Gladys might be a lesbian.
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It's possible. Do you think that she really is married with a husband and kids, and hiding her sexuality, or do you believe that she is just a single, lonely woman with a lust for Kate, or is "she" a male catfish who many times can't help but tweet his strong desire for Kate?
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She could have switched teams late in life but doesn't want to leave her husband this far into the game.
Catfishing is a possiblity though too. Geez who knows. She or he is pretty good at keeping it a mystery, whatever it is.
helen @helen41079 1h1 hour ago
@MiloandJack @Kateplusmy8 I do not believe she favours the girls at all .... Wonderful mum doing a fantastic job x
LOL!! Are these sheeple serious? Take off the rose-colored glasses and see things as they really are!
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 2h2 hours ago
@Kateplusmy8 Its fact ur boys spend abt 26 of 30 days a month w/Mom & 5 sisters..that is lots of femininity & #GirlyGirly stuff 2b around!
Fact, Milo? How in the world would she know this to be fact? She's crazier than a bed bug, and just lousy at math. If she believes this to be true, then go ahead, Milo, and ask Kate why the boys aren't in Scouts or sports and around positive male role models.
Kind of OT...
I wandered over to the GWOP blog and was surprised to see that there are no posts under the last Free Discussion thread that was put up on September 30. Nothing. There are only a few comments on one other thread, and those appear to be by a fellow who lives near Kate and only pastes and copies entire articles and tweets from other sites. Anyone know what has happened there?
"Its fact" that TFW left her children for about a month to tape
CA. Better take those 26 days off the tally, Gladys.
And "it's fact" that the children are away from home about 8
hours every weekday, so I sure don't count that as being with
their mother. And I don't count it as being with their mother
when she's tweeting, or holed up in her room with her favorites
while others are excluded from the fun.
This always amuses me. Of course, these days it doesn't take much to amuse me! A random sheeple shows up, berating the tweeter non-fans for bad grammar/English usage:
51mCara Stone @TheCaraStone
@HarryTNacious @NotJenD @Kateplusmy8 again please form all responses proper grammatical and English form. Also refrain from cursing.
52mCara Stone @TheCaraStone
@bitemeaholesFU @NotJenD @Kateplusmy8 sorry I don't speak your language of degenerate. Please compose responses in proper English form.
But then she tweets this:
Cara Stone @TheCaraStone
@NotJenD @Kateplusmy8 your words of ignorance is abusive. #NoMeansNo
Sweetie, the subject here is words, not ignorance (the object of the preposition). As such, you need correct subject/verb agreement and this would be the following: "Your words of ignorance ARE abusive."
Sheeple never fail to entertain.
Catfishing is a possiblity though too. Geez who knows. She or he is pretty good at keeping it a mystery, whatever it is.
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Darn good. Award-worthy performance, in fact. This is why I really don't think it's Kate. She could never pull this off.
Terri said... 83
This has me totally convinced that Milo is either Kate herself of someone very close to her, maybe even her mother.
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I remember there being speculation about Milo being Kate's mom and was actually just thinking about it earlier today. I think it would make so much sense except for all the sexual things Milo says to her.
Does Kate ever mention her mom? Maybe my brain is making this up, but I think I remember her mom publicly supporting Kate. Maybe in a magazine article or Facebook post or something?
Concerning Handel' s "Halleujah Chorus", it is not a Christmas piece at all. It is part of his Passion/Easter/Ascension oratorio. Somewhere it became mistakenly associated with the birth of Jesus, but it is a celebration of triumph over death at Easter.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 119
Mady suffers from what I'll call the Ruthie and Simon syndrome.
Ruthie and Simon were the youngest (until the twins were born) kids on Seventh Heaven. They were the most precocious, loud, sassiest, disrespectful, sneakiest, unreal kids ever. Viewers loved them.
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OT: I can never watch another 7th Heaven episode again, now that I know Collins(Rev Camden) is a pedophille who acted on some of his needs.I can't help but shudder when thinking about "Ruthie", "Mary" and "Lucy" and every other little girl who had scenes with him throughout the seasons.Which leads me to
On topic: This is what kids in television risk being exposed to.Why the heck would you willingly take such risks with you own precious child?
On topic: This is what kids in television risk being exposed to.Why the heck would you willingly take such risks with you own precious child?
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Ick. Why indeed. What is amazing is that the entertainment industry is one of the few places of employment where you are allowed to spend significant time with minors, in some cases every day all day long, and not ever have to go through any kind of background check in order to do so. There are numerous opportunities for someone in this industry to prey on a minor. Dressing room, casting couches, trailers.
Almost every other industry that spends such time with kids--from teachers to health care providers to child care, requires thorough vetting. And yet we continue to truck along letting sick people like the 7th Heaven Dad, and numerous other perverts, be around kids without absolutely ZERO look into who they really are.
Also, WHY is Mady? screaming crying slipping into that Pilgrim costume?
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i am not completely convinced she was upset. It doesn't show enough in the clip to tell for sure that she was really upset or faking it. TLC probably edited it to attract people who are always saying Mady is so awful.
Somewhere it became mistakenly associated with the birth of Jesus, but it is a celebration of triumph over death at Easter.
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Perhaps because Part I of the Messiah has to do with the Annunciation, and is often performed during Advent, and often concludes with the Hallelujah Chorus?
Good to see you, Pastor. Don't become such a stranger! Merry Christmas!
Almost every other industry that spends such time with kids--from teachers to health care providers to child care, requires thorough vetting. And yet we continue to truck along letting sick people like the 7th Heaven Dad, and numerous other perverts, be around kids without absolutely ZERO look into who they really are.
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Just what Corey Feldman spoke out about.
Tucker's Mom said... 125
Jon's lack of a consistent domicile concerns me too, but it certainly doesn't mean the children can't stay with him.
Jon needs to pull it together- there, I said that too ;-)
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I totally agree.
Somewhere it became mistakenly associated with the birth of Jesus, but it is a celebration of triumph over death at Easter.
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Perhaps because Part I of the Messiah has to do with the Annunciation, and is often performed during Advent, and often concludes with the Hallelujah Chorus?
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Yes. Several of the songs are advent oriented, For Unto Us a Child is Born, Hallelujah, etc., that fit in perfectly with Christmas time, regardless Handel's intentions. It makes perfect sense to sing some of it at Christmas. We have also done some songs at church around Easter. We piece and patch!
The BYU channel had a wonderful documentary about Handel a couple weeks ago that was fascinating. He was in some kind of scandalous love triangle and he used the money from the first Messiah concert to free people from debtors prison in Dublin.
In any case pulling some songs from an Easter piece that tie in directly with Christmas is not quite the same thing as appropriating a song with a lot of sexual undertones and has nothing to do with the holidays at all into a Christmas song just because it has the word Hallelujah in it.
Did TFW respond to the tweet asking how she "maintains" her sons'
"masculinity?" Or is there a chance she thought is was as looney
tunes as we did?
Just what Corey Feldman spoke out about.
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Yes exactly. He's a good egg who wants better for future children in the industry than what was handed to him.
Did TFW respond to the tweet asking how she "maintains" her sons'
"masculinity?" Or is there a chance she thought is was as looney
tunes as we did?
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Why doesn't she just BLOCK this woman like a normal person. Really, Kate? Really?
Did TFW respond to the tweet asking how she "maintains" her sons'
"masculinity?" Or is there a chance she thought is was as looney
tunes as we did?
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That was one of the questions Milo submitted to TLC for the AskKate epsidode, so Kate's not going to reply now. Notice how she included @TLC and the hashtag #Kateplu8. She also asked another one,
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 23h23 hours ago
@TLC @Kateplusmy8 W/6girls to 3boys ratio N family..how do U as single Mom help ur boys 2maintain their masculinity & identity? #KatePlus8
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 23h23 hours ago
@TLC @Kateplusmy8 Yr 2009 saw changes....Kate has changed alot! What R you most proud of abt urself now...what changes do U see? #KatePlus8
When she was called out for the first question, she got all defensive:
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 16h16 hours ago
@Kateplusmy8 I asked ? abt ur boys because 4yrs critics have accused U of "hating" ur sons...neglecting them...& that U favor the girls!
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 16h16 hours ago
@Kateplusmy8 I know 4 a fact that U love ur boys dearly...& do special things 4them. Wanted 2give U opportunity 2address that on #AskKate!
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 16h16 hours ago
@Kateplusmy8 Its fact ur boys spend abt 26 of 30 days a month w/Mom & 5 sisters..that is lots of femininity & #GirlyGirly stuff 2b around!
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 16h16 hours ago
@kateplusmy8 My ? was not 2invade anything private..not criticism of father...just a simple how U love them as boys ?..that's all! :)
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 16h16 hours ago
@GeeWhiz__ @Kateplusmy8 I'm not trying 2create anything difficult here...clearly the boys love their Mom...she spends time w/them!
Sometimes I wonder if Milo just throws out outrageous tweets like that just so the non-fans will call her out on it, and then she can whine about how the haters always pick on her.
I think that's another reason why she doesn't block the haters. She needs them so that she can later complain that they are picking on her.
Did TFW respond to the tweet asking how she "maintains" her sons'
"masculinity?" Or is there a chance she thought is was as looney
tunes as we did?
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Why doesn't she just BLOCK this woman like a normal person. Really, Kate? Really?
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I don't know what response Milo is looking for. I do know that Milo is once again, trying to do damage control for Kate and prompt her to address her detractors.
Listen, Kate screwed the pooch when she cut all of the many loving friends and family out of the kids' lives.
It was a critical, but not irrevocable, error.
Big. Huge.
Look, this isn't a boy problem because of the paucity of male role models, family members, community leaders and friends.
This is a problem for all of the G kids because every one of them has lost crucial ties in their lives, perhaps forever.
Being part of a family and extended social network is how we relate to our own identities in the world.
The crew does not replace this. I don't care what Kate calls them. "Daddies" or family.
They simply are not. They are people doing their jobs and will move on to the next job when they're done, and they will fill their social, family and emotional tanks with their own, not Kate's.
That's only right. To actually want and desire interlopers in your kids' lives isn't right.
So, Milo, dear, if you want to ponder what effect the profound loss of male family and friends has had on the boys, think about the profound loss all of the children have suffered, and ask yourself if a manse, private school and trips are worth it.
Ingrid, I had the same thought. It looks like Mady is play-crying for some reason, maybe, "WAH, I can't believe I have to put this getup on like I'm two" or something.
You can tell Milo knows she really stepped into it when people call her out on her freaking creepy tweets and she responds like six times to them desperately trying to frame what she said as something completely different. Milo, you f-ed up. Deal with it. She knows darn well it was question to try to give her queen an opportunity to paint Jon in the worst possible light. She knows darn well. It's really sick.
Taking the ridiculousness of the content out, the idea that Gladys
feels it's her mission/responsibility/agenda to manipulate TFW's
image is way, way out of line. She admitted it -- she asked a
specific question to give TFW a chance to express herself.
How is that in any way her business?
Kate Gosselin@Kateplusmy8·4 mins4 minutes ago
I'm WRAPPING...not the @NICKIMINAJ way of RAPPING...More like 'I'm a Mom of 8 w/ a TON of Christmas presents 2 WRAP & 9days left 2 do it'
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Oh, goody, goody! The annual tweet about how many kids she has and that she's wrapping their TON of gifts!!!!!!!!
All the cash-strapped, single mothers out there must feel GREAT!
Taking the ridiculousness of the content out, the idea that Gladys
feels it's her mission/responsibility/agenda to manipulate TFW's
image is way, way out of line.
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Exactly. Way out of line. She is not Kate's PR person. Butt out. Kate is a big girl and can speak about what she wants when she wants to without Milo trying to prod and guide her like she's a stupid child.
As far as Kate's Christmas tweets, of course she's showering the kids with "tons" of presents yet again. I've noticed that 90% of her holiday tweets are always about the materialistic side of things. Christmas lists, gifts, etc. Of course presents are a part of Christmas but not the only part. It's almost like she's completely incapable of understanding or relating to Christmas or the deeper meaning of the season. She can only grasp the tangible gift part of it. That's the narcissism I suppose.
There's a saying, I would rather live in a shack down by the railroad tracks and happy than live in a mansion and be miserable.
TFW wins the gold medal living in that mansion and making her kids miserable.
Jon wins a gold medal for providing a safe haven with love, hugs and plenty of food.
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 21m21 minutes ago
I'm WRAPPING...not the @NICKIMINAJ way of RAPPING...More like 'I'm a Mom of 8 w/ a TON of Christmas presents 2 WRAP & 9days left 2 do it' 🎁🎁
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I sure hope not, Kate:
"Yo, I never fucked Wayne, I never fucked Drake
On my life, man, fuck's sake
If I did I menage with 'em and let 'em eat my ass like a cupcake
My man full, he just ate, I don't duck nobody but tape
Yeah, that was a set up for a punchline on duct tape
Worried 'bout if my butt's fake
Worry 'bout yall niggas, us straight
These girls are my sons, John and Kate plus eight..."
You must be so proud, Kate.
(Please excuse the profanity- I wanted to point out how GREAT it is for Kate to be mentioned in a Nicki Minaj song.)
I found out that T, who I know lost her job and that was 2 months ago. She hasn't been able to land another job. She has 3 kids, ages 2 to 12. She has been living on 88 dollars a week and said that she was going to go and sign up for the Christmas gift program but her van motor blew up and she hasn't went. I don't know if someone can take her.
Then L said that she was going to go to Dollar Tree and buy as much as she could because she couldn't stand the thought of them not having something to open up. Another lady, T went to the penny auction and brought me a beautiful gift bag with Santa and Rudolf with nice things that I am going to give to the 12 yr. old to add to.
I would love to add some money too, but I can't, I am still reaping the repercussions of the theft of my money.
TFW disgusts me to the outer stratosphere with her bloodthirsty profited greed.
I can't imagine a childhood without extended family. No grandparents, cousins, aunts, uncles, friends of your parents whom you called aunt and uncle.
Never packing up the car and traveling to see people, see their trees and presents and all that good stuff.
I wonder if any of the kids realize how insular Kate has made their lives.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 16h16 hours ago
@kateplusmy8 My ? was not 2invade anything private..not criticism of father...just a simple how U love them as boys ?..that's all! :)
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Here's the simple answer: You hand their lives over to TLC in exchange for big $$. Every parent knows that's how to love your kids, boys and girls alike. Right, Kate?
Oh and don't worry about their privacy, Gladys. It's already been invaded.
I have changed my mind, I will bee watching every episode of celeb apprentice! just realized the STAR of SHARKNADO (1&2) is on CA! Somehow this just hit my awareness!
She can only grasp the tangible gift part of it. That's the narcissism I suppose. 155
And greed.
Yes, just the snippet of Mady fake crying proves she is her mother's daughter. Too bad. Maybe Cara and Mady are not that close any longer and they wanted separate bedrooms. If I were Cara, I'd want my alone time away from the BS and the puppet master.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 16h16 hours ago
@kateplusmy8 My ? was not 2invade anything private..not criticism of father...just a simple how U love them as boys ?..that's all! :)
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Milo (we know you read here) you've said that you've got a son and a daughter. As a mom do you love your son differently than you love your daughter? Do you have to love him as a "boy" and how do you love him as a "boy" rather than just as your child? I really would like to know.
JoyinVirginia said... 162
I have changed my mind, I will bee watching every episode of celeb apprentice! just realized the STAR of SHARKNADO (1&2) is on CA! Somehow this just hit my awareness!
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LOL! I assume you mean Ian Ziering? Wasn't he also on DWTS a few seasons ago?
Tucker's Mom said... 160
I can't imagine a childhood without extended family. No grandparents, cousins, aunts, uncles, friends of your parents whom you called aunt and uncle.
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I know! I do have regrets that I only have one child, because I wish my son could have a close sibling. But it was not meant to be. Still, he has memories of spending lots of time at my parents' home out in the country, spending time with my brother's kids who lived in the same town, annual family reunions, and so much more as family is a big part of our lives. That a parent would purposely cut out all relatives from her own children's lives is almost unfathomable to me.
Wow, Tucker's Mom! That rap lyric is Disgustingly Vulgar!
Is that idiot PROUD OF THAT? Is she just letting it slide by for free publicity or will she sue for not having permission to use it?
OH, I forgot. TLC will have to do that!
If ROL printed the lyrics and edited the bad stuff, all that would be left is cupcakes and Jon and Kate plus 8. And we all know how all that turned out.
The day will come when the children will get it that the "tons" of gifts were purchased with the income their mother received by selling their privacy.
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Yes.
The day will also come when the children realize love is not measured in gifts.
redbirdsings said... 168
Wow, Tucker's Mom! That rap lyric is Disgustingly Vulgar!
Is that idiot PROUD OF THAT? Is she just letting it slide by for free publicity or will she sue for not having permission to use it?
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I know that Kate was tweeted about how neat it was that Kate was mentioned in Nicki Minaj's lyrics, and performed on SNL.
Someone here mentioned that the lyrics are disgusting, so I had to look them up when Kate said she's not rapping like Nicki M., but wrapping gifts.
Evidently, Kate doesn't mind being inserted in between such utter filth. She used it as a punch line!
I'd want to crawl under a rock, and you KNOW her kids are going to find out.
Maybe they can have a sing along.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 16h16 hours ago
@kateplusmy8 My ? was not 2invade anything private..not criticism of father...just a simple how U love them as boys ?..that's all! :)
Milo, you idiot. Your whole life is devoted to invading Kate's privacy with personal questions.That is one of the most stupid comments she has ever made. She needs to shut up because she's just digging herself in deeper. If she has this burning desire to ask Kate questions, what she should ask Kate is, "Did your children watch your drunken birthday celebration in the New York episode? If not, why not? If so, how did you explain to them that you got sloshed and let a stranger lick your foot?
Come on, Gladys, I dare you. Double dog dare you.
I think that Kate may hate males because of her father. In Robert's book, Kate wrote in her diary something like "I reminded myselft of my father today" on a day when she was particularly harsh with the kids. I think Kate's father was probably abusive, if not physically, then at least emotionally.
Gawd! Her fingers must be raw from all that wrapping! Every year it's the same tweet! Whining when her kids will have tons of gifts under the tree. Gotta outdo Jon!
Of course she is hoping her tweet is written about, just like LAST YEAR:
http://www.celebdirtylaundry.com/2013/kate-gosselin-christmas-presents-children-twitter-1220/
Miranda @MirandaaaaaNoel 1h1 hour ago
Wait wait wait is the @Kateplusmy8 return a permanent thing or just a special?
She's just not going to tell them. No way. Wouldn't you think that with all of the love and gratitude she claims she has for her "tweeties" that she would at least have the courtesy to explain that this is a series of specials?
Oh, wait. They are nothing to her but they can't seem to grasp it.
She won't clarify exactly how many specials and how brief this stint back actually is because she's a selfish cow who just wants to be able to tell TLC look look at all the fans excited for a "season" give us more episodes!
It matters not to her that her fans are confused and want clarification or just a simple answer to a reasonable question. She could care less.
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 5h5 hours ago
I'm WRAPPING...not the @NICKIMINAJ way of RAPPING...More like 'I'm a Mom of 8 w/ a TON of Christmas presents 2 WRAP & 9days left 2 do it' 🎁🎁
It just occurred to me that Kate tweeted/linked to Minaj, hoping for a mention, I'm sure.
Way to use whatever you can for attention.
That song is filth, and I am no shrinking violet when it comes to swearing.
I so, so hope Radar and the like pick up on Christian Kate capitalizing on a profanity-laced song (about fucking and not fucking and who she fucks and who she doesn't fuck) that used her name as a badge of honor.
"Look at me!!!!!!!"
Orange is the new black, and Nicki Minaj is the bff Taylor Swift.
Can't wait 'til Kate takes the twins to THAT concert ;-)
Re Mady crying while trying to get in or out of that costume. Reminded me of a hot summer day when I needed to get a new dress for an important occasion. I decided to get one I had my eye on and just expected I would run in, try one on, and buy it. I had my two and three year old daughters with me, we all went into the dressing room, I was hot, the dressing room was small, and I became a prisoner in that stinking hot dressing room. The dress was over my head, my sweaty arms were up (like Mady in the picture) and I could not get that dress off my body. It took quite a bit of wiggling, squirming, grunting and groaning, while my little girls watched me intently wondering what in the world was going on. I still laugh about that hot day in that hot room.
I think Kate's father was probably abusive, if not physically, then at least emotionally
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I don't feel comfortable speculating about Katie's parents when we know nothing about them except that her father is/was a church deacon. I do get the impression that he was strict.
I don't think her sense of entitlement began with TLC. She was the poor deprived " middle child" who didn't get everything she thought she deserved growing up. She got Kevin to to her chores. She went for the guy with the nicer car ($$$) and shamelessly stole Jon from his existing girlfriend. (He is not blameless but she went at him like a freight train. I think he is finally figuring out what hit him).
I have never seen such unabashed, unmitigated greed.
There are still programs on television that tout the lie that Jon was the louse in the Gosselin marriage and the fault of the divorce. It is too bad that his wild time is on tape for a life time. On the other hand, it is also on tape for a life time showing how horrible he was treated by TFW for years. The programs do not seem to pick up on that. All the fakery such as "vow renewal", vacation upon vacation, fake Christmas mornings, purchase of mini-mansion w/hobby farm, etc. are never mentioned. I, along with many here, am still in Jon's corner. They love to mention his expensive sports car purchase, but there is no mention of TFW's car purchases. On the whole, Jon is still the better of the two parents. TFW is just a lot slicker and has been able to hide her misdeeds better during/after the marriage. I have experience of being lied about during a divorce many years ago and at times I can still feel the sting. I feel compassion for Jon.
Has anyone seen pictures of TFW's bloody fingertips from wrapping all the Christmas packages? Fake, all fake. If she had nurtured relationships with extended family/friends, they would be happy to help her get ready for Christmas. Sad for the children.
On another note, I have never listened to Nicki Minaj and those were the first lyrics I've ever read. Thanks for letting me know that I'm not missing anything.
The day will also come when the children realize love is not measured in gifts. The day will also come when the children realize love is not measured in gifts. 170
And life is not measured by how much stuff you accumulate.
I don't know if her family was abusive. Robert found some family members to say they were, and there was that thing about a possible abortion that made be suspect that if that happened it could have been the source of great discord a young girl would not be emotionally ready to handle. I suspect it was a combination of a difficult child and a parent or parent sometimes becoming abusive in struggling to deal with that child.
It kind of reminds me of the situation with Farrah from Couples Therapy. Is Debra the mother really an abusive parent, or is Farrah a narcissistic sociopathic child that Debra and no other mother has absolutely no idea how to handle and has tried everything? In that case I suspect the latter, and I have the same suspicions about Kate's upbringing. We will never know for sure unless you are the child or parent, but in both Farrah and Kate's situations I take a clue from observing their own behavior away from their parents to imagine what their behavior is like around their parents. I.e. despicable.
Maybe her family was abusive. Or maybe Kate had expectations for her parents and her upbringing that no parent could possibly fulfill, leaving them feeling unappreciated and lost. The way she has hinted and hawed at feeling like her childhood was somehow inadequate because of not having opportunities for trips is a huge clue. Jon had said once her parents just had chosen not really to be involved with the kids but there is much more to that story and that could have been the end result of decades of bending over backwards for a child and her children only to have it never understood or appreciated and to just watch her get worse. I definitely don't take that comment as something that happened in isolation because they're bad people or something. There is a reason for the limited contact for both parties. The true reasons we may never know.
I feel for any parent of a narcissistic child. You are dealt the child you are dealt and it is your responsibility until they are grown. But you can only do so much once they are an adult and making their own choices and if the relationship has become toxic into adulthood I don't fault any parent for creating some distance much like I wouldn't fault a child for doing the same to a narcissistic parent. It goes both ways.
I think that Kate is very reluctant to block Kreepy Kravitz. Her tweets get more bizarre as time goes by. Kate may have been advised to ignore her and not do anything to set her off. I don't blame her.
I remember when Gladys was giddy and practically peeing in her pants (oops...slacks) when she went to pick up the new dog on Kate's birthday. You could tell from Kate's tweets that she didn't know what was going on and may have been suspicious that Milo was headed in her direction with a gift or cake. When all was done, Kate didn't mention the dog, wasn't jumping up and down with excitement or appreciative that a dog was named after her. I think she was just glad the whole thing was over. Has she ever asked about the dog...I can't remember her doing so?
Somewhere (185): "Kate may have been advised to ignore her and not do anything to set her off. I don't blame her."
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I don't, either. What in the world does this mean:
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack
http://t.co/s941qqPG06 @Kateplusmy8 A good perspective when someone we love doesn't meet our expectations! #EffortMeansAlot
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 2m2 minutes ago
So @Kateplusmy8 How much progress did U make on the #ExteriorBeautificationOfGifts...how's that 4 a formal way 2say #GiftWrapping?
I have never seen anyone so nosy. If Kate wants to tell her, she will. Milo just can't help herself and this would scare the bejeezus out of me.
Kathie Lee said that Cosby tried to kiss her when she opened for him in the 70s. She said "no" and that was the end of it. She did say that she didn't see anything going on with these women, but did remember that he requested lattes. I didn't catch everything she said.
@MiloandJack: LOL Sometimes I try & stay ahead of the negative folks..I look at a tweet & say...now what can they twist w/that! How can they misread it?
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Sorry Milo but there's no tap dancing your way out of all those tweets about the boys. They were inappropriate and you know it.
Rhymes with Witch said... 182
On another note, I have never listened to Nicki Minaj and those were the first lyrics I've ever read. Thanks for letting me know that I'm not missing anything.
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On another note, this Minaj song, "Only", which lyrics include mention of 8 innocent children (sandwiched between f-bombs), sported a very controversial music video that was laden with Nazi imagery.
Just keep reaching out to Nicki, Kate. Whatever it takes.
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Great post. I also think Kate was impossible to please because she believes she deserves so much "stuff", and her upbringing didn't meet her lofty requirements.
Mrs. Uggs is still hot for this guy...
Brenda Schuettler @sweetbren66
@TheSharkDaymond @SunStaches sooo cool!! My fav yet #SantaDaymondCouldComeDownMyChimney #Anytime why can't I bump into you when in #nyc :)
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Oh, geez, Uggs...just get a freakin' room and get it over and done.
I bet he's thinking that if he ever sees her coming his way he's running as fast as he can in the opposite direction. I don't understand that these fans aren't embarrassed when they throw themselves at celebrities this way.
Wow, Tucker's Mom. I didn't know about the lyrics either. I think maybe Kate did not either but knows she's 'cool' among teens.If she DID, then, that's really low.
NJGal51 said... 198
There's nothing cute about 10 year olds acting like 2 year olds patting a lobster and having to be told that they can't keep them as pets. How dumb does she want us to think her kids are?
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Totally agree with you!
I think maybe Kate did not either but knows she's 'cool' among teens.If she DID, then, that's really low. 191
Really low = classic Katie.
She's too lazy to research anything.
Kathie Lee said that Cosby tried to kiss her when she opened for him in the 70s. She said "no" and that was the end of it. She did say that she didn't see anything going on with these women, but did remember that he requested lattes. I didn't catch everything she said.
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I was surprised that KLG was so forthcoming about Cosby coming on to and trying to "get with" her.
KLG used to perform at the same places Cosby did, so they were in the same casinos at the same time. She'd usually perform before him.
He walked her up to her room in the casino one night and put the moves on her. She rebuffed him and said, 'no, we're friends" and he backed off.
But, Cosby was a married guy!
KLG kept a friendship with him over the years.
She also said he sure did love his cappucino, so that was creepy.
I guess she never had a cup.
Kathy Lee Gifford also mentioned that she NEVER saw Cosby's wife, Camille, with him on the road, so I think she basically turned a blind eye a very long time ago.
Could be Gina is the same.
How dumb does she want us to think her kids are? 192
Not dumb, YOUNG.
They're all at the top of their class, remember?
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There's nothing cute about 10 year olds acting like 2 year olds patting a lobster and having to be told that they can't keep them as pets. How dumb does she want us to think her kids are?
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Totally agree with you!
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If a 10-year-old doesn;t know that you eat lobster tail and these are not pets, then there is something very wrong there. Very wrong. I certainly wouldn't want that aired.
On another note, this Minaj song, "Only", which lyrics include mention of 8 innocent children (sandwiched between f-bombs), sported a very controversial music video that was laden with Nazi imagery.
Just keep reaching out to Nicki, Kate. Whatever it takes.
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I had no idea who this Nicki person was until I saw her as a judge on American Idol. That was enough for me.
Kate doesn't care, as long as a celebrity pays her any attention. I wonder if Sunday-Go-To-Meetin Milo has listened to those lyrics.
Somewhere (185): "When all was done, Kate didn't mention the dog, wasn't jumping up and down with excitement or appreciative that a dog was named after her. I think she was just glad the whole thing was over. Has she ever asked about the dog...I can't remember her doing so?"
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Guess who just posted a picture of Kate's namesake? LOL!
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack
@Kateplusmy8. We even added #MissTrouble to the mix! #Friends http://t.co/acfPrq5OuJ
He got lucky. I wonder, though, if these alleged acts occurred only in the past, or if they still continue...
"Bill Cosby just caught a break.
The Los Angeles County District Attorney's Office will not file charges against the star following claims he molested a 15-year-old at the Playboy Mansion back in 1974. A document, obtained by The Insider With Yahoo, evaluating the charges and released on Tuesday states that the incident is too old.
At the time the alleged crime occurred, it would have been a misdemeanor: annoying or molesting a child under 18, which carried a statue of limitations of one year.
"Even if there was an applicable felony charge," the document reads, "the statute of limitations that existed in 1974 for felony sex crimes was three years. Therefore, prosecution today for any potential felony sex crime from 1974 would also be barred."
The filing was regarding the case of Judy Huth, who told her story to Los Angeles police earlier this month. Huth claimed that the actor plied her with booze and then sexually assaulted her.
"He attempted to kiss her on the mouth and slid his hand down her pants," part of the graphic account stated.
Huth also has filed a civil lawsuit against the 77-year-old star. Meanwhile, Cosby has accused Huth of attempting to extort $250,000 from him and is seeking to have her suit dismissed.
In addition to Huth, more than 20 women have accused Cosby of sexual assault in the last two months. Two of those other women are suing Cosby.
Cosby's attorneys have denied the claims against their client from the start, but it was only Monday when Camille Cosby, Bill's wife of years, defended her husband in a statement.
"He is a kind man, a generous man, a funny man, and a wonderful husband, father and friend," she said. "He is the man you thought you knew.
"None of us will ever want to be in the position of attacking a victim, But the question should be asked — who is the victim?"
Then there's this, which also happened in the 1970s...
"A multimillion-dollar judgment has been awarded to a former Boy Scout who was sexually abused by his scout leader.
A Connecticut Superior Court jury said last week that the Boy Scouts of America (BSA) will pay $7 million to the accuser, according to the Hartford Courant. The allegations date as far back as the 1970s.
Identified only as "John Doe," the accuser claimed the incidents happened during camping trips and other outings in the New Fairfield area.
The jury found Friday that the organization was liable due to its negligent and reckless actions that led to at least three instances of abuse at the hands of the depraved scout leader.
Files obtained in 2012 through court order by the Los Angeles Times were used as evidence, according to the Courant. The Times posted the documents online.
They painted the picture of a widespread cover-up within BSA that kept decades of abuse allegations from ever seeing the light of day.
Those files were never shared with local chapters or organizations.
"There is no doubt that they were aware of the existence of child sexual abuse within the Boy Scouts of America," attorney for the plaintiff Jennifer Goldstein told the Courant.
BSA was found liable at the national level, but the local Connecticut Yankee Council was surprisingly absolved of guilt following the two-week trial, according to the Courant.
The group declined to comment directly on the case when reached by the Courant, but issued the following statement.
"The Boy Scouts of America appreciates the court's time in the evaluation of this matter. Though we disagree with the findings, we will review the decision and comply accordingly.
"In addition, while we can't comment on the lawsuit, we extend our sympathies to those involved."
The suit is one of two filed against the same scout leader over his actions during 18-years with BSA, according to the Courant."
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