Did Adnan kill Hae? You decide over the course of 12 engrossing episodes.
Some questions to ponder:
- How much can you remember about what you did six weeks ago, on November 6, 2014?
- Is Adnan a smooth talking sociopath who has charmed narrator Sarah Koenig or is he actually who he says?
- What about that phone call to Adnan's then girlfriend the day of the murder?
- Was the investigation botched?
- If Adnan didn't kill Hae, who did?
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Speaking of fake accounts, I wonder if Kate ever found out that a Canadian teen posed as Cara on Tumblr, or that this same young fan and another teen set up a fake FB account to harass Ellen.
prairiemary - You are a kind soul. Thank you for sharing the Christmas joy you created. It warmed my heart.
One woman told me that I had just made her miserable day so happy. Imagine that, a little card with a hearty , turned this woman's day from bad to great! But it was me who got her own Christmas joy, the joy that I needed to have. Sharing in such a small way, brought me so much happiness.
That's great! I think we all do what we can - we just don't tell everyone. And remember that it's not about you and what joy *you* receive. It's about anonymously giving to those in need. Merry Christmas prairiemary!
In case anyone is up reading early (and not too busy making lists of
their children's names with hilarious Christmas twists), I wanted to
extend my best wishes for a happy holiday to whoever is celebrating.
Whether it be Christmas, Kwanzaa, Boxing Day, or this last day of
Hanukkah (or should I say Hannah-kah?!) - enjoy.
Redbirdsings, I just got an email from Operation Christmas Child.
I was tracking my shoeboxes, and they went to the Philippines!
Happy Holidays to all! And thank you to Admin for keeping the veranda open and maintaining a great site!!
So many good, intelligent and thoughtful people on the site. And great humor (Hi Auntie Anne!) and other humorists.
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Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 34m34 minutes ago
@awesomeone352 for starters, my girls are horrified by the fakers poor grammar, punctuation and sentence structure .. Lol #priorities
How do the girls know that there are mistakes in the fake instagrams if they don't have access to social media?
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I agree. Mady does what Mady wants so who knows? Don't know if it is a Mady account, but would not be surprised. The idea that the twins are not on social media would surprise me.
TFW is only worried about herself and how things reflect on her. If she was serious, she would have limited access on their phones. And checked them periodically as many of my friends do. Given some of the lunatics on internet.
Finally saw a trailer for Kate's new show on TLC. Boy, the twins' behavior was really bad. At this point, I wonder if it isn't almost too late for therapy to "fix" them? They have everything that money can buy, and nothing that it can't. Wish the judge would take a good look at those eight kids, and see what giving Kate total control of their lives has done to them.
Didn't Kate say her own mistakes were due to enthusiasm, speed and limits of length etc on Twitter and similar social media? She really doesn't realize how bad her own English usage is and thinks she is very witty and erudite.Pot meet Kettle.Or should I say "Kate-le?"
Will was off playing by himself watching Toy Story on his iPad and they couldn't just leave him be. Peppering him with questions, asking him if he wants to do something else. Good grief, can't a man watch a movie in peace? lol
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They were actually trying to get him to practice his ABC's on an app.
Those kids have no boundaries yet, are always placated with food, and it is starting to show.
I agree they are very materialistic and shallow. Can't blame the orphanage for everything. They have each spent more time with the Klein's than at the orphanage now.
Will is food obsessed and that is difficult to watch. These kids aren't just LP, they have obvious special needs as well. This kind of exploitation is so wrong.
SW
Those Christmas names were ridiculous. Kate has no idea.
I am enjoying coffee and cocoa with my lady pals in a little bit.
Have a great day everyone!
Merry Christmas to all who want only the best for the Gosselin children, that their mother joins with their father in allowing them the privacy they are entitled to in the few precious years they have left of their childhood. I fear they have been damaged by being exposed as entertainment for cash and the entertainment of others - just as the Dionne quints were 80 years ago.
bm
Merry Christmas Eve! Happy Hanukkah! Happy post winter solstice! Find something to celebrate! Happy Festivus, and may you air all your grievances with feats of strength!
Happy Holidays to all! And thank you to Admin for keeping the veranda open and maintaining a great site!!
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Yes, thanks to Admin, the pool girls and the lawn boys, and to those who keep the Rumspringa flowing so freely!
This is interesting.
http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/2014/12/23/mass-high-court-rules-cyber-harassment-not-protected-speech/Yj9z70lzwDpXn3vpmUpjfO/story.html?p1=well_Crime_subheadline_hp
Adriana @adellasio14 4h4 hours ago
@Kateplusmy8 is this another fake
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Someone on Twitter posted an account of CaraMadyGosselin. Some of the photos clearly were taken at school events, and some pictures are not ones that Kate has posted. If this is a fake account, I wonder who did it, or how they have access to these photos.
Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to all here.
I don't think the Little Couple is too sucked in by the "TLC" train. They are nothing like Kate Gosselin. I think we may be tainted by the Gosselin greed. Jen is a very educated woman with an excellent job and seems to be highly regarded in her field and by the hospital she works at. She almost died of cancer last year. Can you blame her for wanting to spoil the kids some? And Bill was getting ready for a serious back operation this past fall. I think she and Bill really appreciate life. Without the show, I don't think there life would be all that different in materialistic ways. I agree Wil does get too much cake and candy. Zoey was under weight when they got her and she hasn't been there a year yet. My biggest pet peeve is Wil still in diapers. That has to be getting gross at 4 years old. But I applaud them that they are NOT dealing with potty training in the public eye.
The love they have for each other and their family is huge.
I recall Bill and Jen had actually said the children were both treated very well at their respective orphanages and the people who took care of them were lovely.I didn't see will's episodes but I remember Zoey's and it was clean, spacious and had a friendly atmosphere.
An orphanage is never a good situation but it's not like the poor things were starved or never held or talked to, where you could understand why parents would be so overly indulgent. And they both got out young enough that the effects will be well mitigated if not completely disappear.
Adriana @adellasio14 4h4 hours ago
@Kateplusmy8 is this another fake
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It's either them or more likely, it's someone who has gone around friending all their friends and stealing the photos that M&C happen to be in, which is creepy but totally doable. The pictures are mostly all selfies that teen friends would take as well as some swiped from Kate. I don't find that all that credible.
I don't think they would be apt to share an account, kids at that age want one identity and their own accounts. Never seen twins "share." That said, if it IS them, especially with all the "private" pictures on it, Kate's an idiot. They have 3,000 followers.
The Supreme Court is taking up the cyber harassment issue right now. Over something that happened on Facebook. It will be interesting to see how they come out, they are extremely liberal about free speech.
You know I'm thinking it would be VERY easy to fake that account. I bet their school has a few hashtags of the school name the kids use. Just search the hashtag, start friending their friends and watch the twins pop up in their photos.
It would be somewhat time consuming, but totally possible and quite easy.Most people have instagram open, they dont go private. It's a less intrusive atmosphere you don't feel a need to clamp up like FB.
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Adriana @adellasio14 4h4 hours ago
@Kateplusmy8 is this another fake
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Someone on Twitter posted an account of CaraMadyGosselin. Some of the photos clearly were taken at school events, and some pictures are not ones that Kate has posted. If this is a fake account, I wonder who did it, or how they have access to these photos.
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Hmm, it's private now but has thousands of followers so at one point it wasn't. Did it just go dark? If it's not them, it's someone from their school IMO. TFW would be better off letting them getting an instagram and monitoring it. That's what I did (well with Facebook). At that age I even had my kid's password so I could delete stuff other kids would post to her wall. (this generation loves the F word).
I love the way she automatically jumps to defending her kids. Oh no, no 14 year old would lie about something to their mom that they were forbidden to do; and would never try and throw mom off their trail by making it look like it couldn't be them since they have perfect grammar (must be a recessive gene).
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Adriana @adellasio14 4h4 hours ago
@Kateplusmy8 is this another fake
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It's either them or more likely, it's someone who has gone around friending all their friends and stealing the photos that M&C happen to be in, which is creepy but totally doable. The pictures are mostly all selfies that teen friends would take as well as some swiped from Kate. I don't find that all that credible.
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Or that. I still think it's someone who knows them or is a friend of a friend who could find intagrams easily by starting with someone. If Cara's roster were online, one could search for names from that. I still think it would be better to let them have a private instagram and monitor it. Good grief.
I agree, just let them have an instagram. They're old enough now. It's a relatively mild form of social media and at least it gets kids thinking creatively about photography. And you can easily check in on it and even have the password to it.
It's not realistic to expect kids to never engage in this stuff in this day in age. They're just going to do it behind your back.
Most kids I know are on it and it's fine, I'd much prefer that to twitter or FB for them or some of the other things.
Wishing all the fine folks here a wonderful Christmas. Thanks to the Admin and the pool girls and boys for the bang-up job they do.
PJ
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What special needs do the Klein children have? I know Will has slow speech development due to ear infections, and he may be delayed in bowel control due to being a LP . I have not heard Zoey talk at all. I don't watch the show all that often, so I am not challenging your statement, just wondering?
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Finally saw a trailer for Kate's new show on TLC. Boy, the twins' behavior was really bad. At this point, I wonder if it isn't almost too late for therapy to "fix" them? They have everything that money can buy, and nothing that it can't. Wish the judge would take a good look at those eight kids, and see what giving Kate total control of their lives has done to them.
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Is this the same trailer that was on People? I don't see the twins much at all in the trailer except Mady doing her TFW impression when putting on clothes and them talking about TFW freaking out? Just wondering because Paige also thinks they are, well,...
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@Kateplusmy8 they'll grow out of that don't worry! Happy holidays!! Are you guys filming an xmas special?
Will takes speech therapy but he seems to be progressing well and Bill said they actually both are right on target now with their speech, no other delays.
I'm just not buying the poor disadvantaged orphan children lagging so behind, so that's why we spoil them. They will have many special needs with dwarfism in the future no doubt, but they also will probably be able to have very normal privileged lives being upper middle class Texans.
Prairiemary, thank you for posting your story. Small gestures like this can impact someone's life and make them believe that there still are kind, compassionate people out there in this world.
FlimsyFlamsy, thank you for letting me know about your OCC package! The Phillippines! They just had a typhoon recently and how wonderful it will be for a child to get an OCC box that possibly suffered during the storm.
Still waiting for an answer to see if I will be able to go to my sons on Friday. If you could say a prayer for me, it will be greatly appreciated!
Merry, Merry Christmas to everyone on this blog! Thank you Admin for running a great Veranda. Candy canes and chocolates in everyone's stocking! May the eggnog flow like rumspringa! Merry Christmas!
Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to all who celebrate. I wish you all joy, peace, health and prosperity. I so appreciate this blog, Admin and all the wonderful, wise and caring posters. I look forward to the new year and all the great posts and topics that will be covered here.
To all our Christian posters, I wish you a very Merry Christmas! Be safe and have a blessed holiday!
As usual, TFW's response to the (allegedly) fake Instagram accounts
is tone-deaf. Is she upset, outraged, creeped out by this news?
No -- she jokes that her daughters are horrified by the grammar!
LOL! Ha ha ha! People are pretending to be your kids, because
you thrust them in the public eye when they weren't old enough
to have a say in it! What a riot! I wonder how funny it'll be when
the pictures become innappropriate, and perhaps sexual in
nature? But, like Scarlet O'Hara, I guess TFW will worry about
that tomorrow.
And by the way, TFW, it should be "fakers' poor grammar," not "fakers poor grammar." Unless it's a singular faker, in which case it would
be "faker's poor grammar."
Thanks for understanding redbirdsings, so nice of you to be positive.
I never told anyone that I did this, not even my own children, just said it here. Greedygosselin, it DID bring me joy to make someone else smile.
And there is nothing wrong with that.
prairiemary, that was a lovely thing you did.
Merry Christmas everyone!
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 7m7 minutes ago
Merry almost Christmas everyone.. The excitement level here is off the charts...not to mention the sugar levels 😉. #CountingDownTheHrsNow 🎄🎁
Where's Milo? Why isn't she answering her Kate Twitter Alert? Something is wrong. It's been a long seven minutes!
Prairiemary (#32), blessings to you. Sorry you felt you had to
defend yourself. I think that's what the poster had in mind,
and perhaps derived some pleasure out of questioning your
motives. Hope you have a joyous holiday!
As usual, TFW's response to the (allegedly) fake Instagram accounts
is tone-deaf. Is she upset, outraged, creeped out by this news?
No -- she jokes that her daughters are horrified by the grammar!
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Speaking of grammar, why is it that the sheep just can't understand the "your" and "you're" usage? It's really not that difficult. It's almost as if incorrect usage is part of the sheeple handbook.
Eric Sjursen @ericsjursen 12m12 minutes ago
@Kateplusmy8 Merry Christmas Kate! Your beautiful. My best to u 4 a happy, healthy and successful New Year. @ericsjursen
Is Kate horrified by their poor grammar and spelling? I think it's really ironic that Kate mentioned this about the fake accounts when her fans are known to have terrible spelling, grammar and punctuation. Doesn't she realize that she might be stepping on some toes there, particular some of the die-hard fans whose grammar is really bad?
Prairiemary, there is nothing wrong with feeling good about making someone's day better. I like it when people share here because it makes me "think outside the box.". Sometimes life gets so busy that the creative juices go stale. At least mine do.
prairiemary -- I agree with you. There's absolutely nothing wrong with finding joy in making someone else smile. Blessings to you.
Just popping in here quickly to wish all who celebrate a wondrous and joyous Christmas. I hope your day is filled with the things that really matter in life -- family and friends. Not flippety-leven gifts that draw shrieks and squeals. For those who don't celebrate, I hope your day is wonderful too.
Why is she tweeting about the excitement level? The kids are spending Xmas Eve with Jon. Why does she insist on be deceptive?
Merry Xmas Everone!
Thanks to jolieJacquelyn, Flimsyflamsy, Readerlady, Rymes with Witch, I appreciate your kind support. For awhile I really thought I had done the wrong thing by relating my little story. Imagine what TFW could do, if she really did think about other people. But we all know better here.
Merry Christmas to all of you here:)
Fleecing The Sheeple said... 196
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 34m34 minutes ago
@awesomeone352 for starters, my girls are horrified by the fakers poor grammar, punctuation and sentence structure .. Lol #priorities
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Said Kate with a punctuation error. ("Fakers" needs an ending possessive apostrophe.) ""Lol #priorities." We're all "horrified," Kate!
Enjoy the holidays, all!
Thanks to jolieJacquelyn, Flimsyflamsy, Readerlady, Rymes with Witch, I appreciate your kind support. For awhile I really thought I had done the wrong thing by relating my little story. Imagine what TFW could do, if she really did think about other people. But we all know better here.
Merry Christmas to all of you here:)
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What a kind and thoughtful person you are. It's too late for me to do this before Christmas, but I am going to remember it next year and will be sure to do what you have done. I'll be thinking of you when I do! Merry Christmas!
Merry Christmas and happy holidays to all here on the veranda.
Sayitisntso, thanks for the shoutout :0)
(Oh and Dear Santa, if it's not too late...Please bring Kate a big box of common sense tonight. She desperately needs it.)
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That's great! I think we all do what we can - we just don't tell everyone. And remember that it's not about you and what joy *you* receive. It's about anonymously giving to those in need.
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How silly to imply that giving only counts if it is done anonymously.(Should we tell Mark Zuckerberg to forget about his plan to donate millions to improve education since he didn't do it anonymously? Seriously) And by the way, the 'good book' says "There is more happiness in giving than in receiving". So it actually IS "about you and what joy *you* receive". Prariemary - thank you for sharing your little story. It's nice to hear about unique ways to bring joy to others!
Prairiemary, you are so welcome! I missed the post about someone questioning you about what you did. There are people in this world who love to take away other peoples Joy. You have nothing to hang your head about here! I think it was wonderful what you did and maybe on Valentine's Day, get those cute little Valentine's Day cards that the kids take to school and put a piece of chocolate or homemade cookies with it and give them out randomly.
Maybe do this with your children. Teaches giving, kindness and charity. Just an idea.
Oh, when I see your name come up on the blog, I think, prairiemary, mary of LHOTP! hahaha
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I had to come back to see what anyone thought about doing random acts of kindness, and what you all have said in my support made me cry, but tears of happiness, not sadness. All of you probably know that I lost a child to cancer, so Christmas has been so sad for me. But not this year! I can't wait to do it again, and I would really love it if all of us would do these acts of kindness all year long. Let's be the ones to make someone happy, kindness should be in all of us. You don't need to have a lot of money, and nobody needs a gift every day, but every one can be kind and helpful in their own way. I know that my daughter was looking down on me as I gave those cards away, and she was smiling:)
And redbirdsings, love to be thought of because of LHOTP, always wished I had lived during that time period!
@MiloandJack: @Kateplusmy8 Awww...so nice 2see your kids there w/you! Dispels #TabloidRumor that you would be alone 2nite w/out the kids.
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Milo - They're divorced and split holidays. As much as you'd like to believe it, Jon is not dead. He is Alive and in their lives. Why is it OK for Jon to be alone but not OK for TFW to be alone on a holiday?
NJGal51, what are you showing us? My old peepers can't squint that hard.
I just came back from candlelight service. It felt very holy and reverent as we want Silent Night. One of the worship leaders was on stage facing us and took out his phone to snap pictures and I saw the pastor look at him like he was mentally whispering/hissing, "What are you DOING?" Not the time nor place nor occasion.
Kate's posting pictures, after Jon said he'd have the kids for Christmas Eve. Gotta wonder what goes on in that person's head.
PJ's Momma - I've been using some pictures from A Christmas Story.
My dad was an Episcopal priest and woe be unto anyone who thought they'd take a picture during any service.
prairiemary - Good for you. Your daughter would be proud.
NJGal, we are watching that movie as soon as the popcorn is ready! I do it old school style on the stovetop, so yummy.
Prairiemary, you are a gem. I am happy for your joy. God bless you.
Admin, I hope you got out for your kayaking adventure today. It was mostly a gorgeous day here in the San Diego area - we're lucky that way in So. CA.
Prairiemary, your story brought me to tears. That was a great idea. I hope I can do that some day.
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8
A tradition we started last year...Alexis remembered it and Mady made it happen.. Mini Christmas Eve snacks! #SoCute http://t.co/lijpJHbfTu
ANOTHER tradition? She has more traditions than Carters has little liver pills. I have no idea what that means, but my grandmother used to say it! Kate's tradition couldn't have made too much of an impression if only one of the kids remembered it.
I just got home from Christmas Eve services and it is 60 degrees out there, balmy and misting. It's only five degrees cooler than it is on the Gulf Coast of Florida. This is not supposed to be like this at Christmas, but at least there's not a foot of snow out there. Merry Christmas, and happy holidays to admin and her helper elves, and the Veranda Ladies. Rumspringas all the way around.
What is Milo even talking about with rumors, Jon himself said he would get the kids xmas eve. Maybe he had them all day and dropped them off after church or presents or whatever, I have no idea. Must she alienate him on Christmas Eve?? Isn't it a GOOD thing that children of divorce see and have good relationships with BOTH parents?
I don't see why we shouldn't take joy in making someone's day a little better. I imagine most of us probably do little kindness for friends and strangers often. It does lighten my heart to do so.
I just got home from Christmas Eve services and it is 60 degrees out there, balmy and misting. It's only five degrees cooler than it is on the Gulf Coast of Florida.
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And Gladys tweeted that the kids needed gifts to be entertained because of the "difficult" weather over winter break!
Here you go Over in TFW's County.
http://mentalfloss.com/article/55750/origins-8-nearly-obsolete-phrases
Merry Christmas to all!
Just quickly popping in to wish you all a wonderful Christmas! Health and happiness for the coming year!
Looking forward to the "worst moments", they seem to get better and better as each year goes by:)
I don't see why we shouldn't take joy in making someone's day a little better. I imagine most of us probably do little kindness for friends and strangers often. It does lighten my heart to do so
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I agree and it may just motivate others. Look at all the "acts of kindness" movements that have transpired over the last little while.
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I had to come back to see what anyone thought about doing random acts of kindness, and what you all have said in my support made me cry, but tears of happiness, not sadness. All of you probably know that I lost a child to cancer, so Christmas has been so sad for me. But not this year! I can't wait to do it again, and I would really love it if all of us would do these acts of kindness all year long. Let's be the ones to make someone happy, kindness should be in all of us. You don't need to have a lot of money, and nobody needs a gift every day, but every one can be kind and helpful in their own way. I know that my daughter was looking down on me as I gave those cards away, and she was smiling:)
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Now YOU'RE bringing me to tears!! You are a lovely soul, Merry Christmas!
Merry Christmas one and all!
Acts of kindness bring both the giver and the receiver joy. Is it "selfish" to love someone unconditionally because the feeling also brings you great joy?
Merry Christmas Admin, and whoever else is celebrating!
Dwindle, if you're still reading here (and I hope you are),
I hope you are well, and having a lovely holiday season.
Also Admin (#61), if sharing your act of kindness inspires others
to think of acts of their own -- as I believe it already did on this
blog -- then how can that be a bad thing?
Merry Christmas to all the verandah ladies. I am wishing all of you a holy and happy day.
Last night we know a family who loved a new grandchild into the world. And, at about the same time, we know a family that said goodbye to a beloved sister.
The emotions and tears just increased my awareness of how fragile and precious life is.
I appreciate the thoughts and personalities of my "friends" here. Thank you.
Merry Christmas to all who celebrate.
This year it's just Roo and me. I gave her a new toy and a marrow bone (bone is winning). She gives me the joy of her companionship.
What is Milo even talking about with rumors, Jon himself said he would get the kids xmas eve. Maybe he had them all day and dropped them off after church or presents or whatever, I have no idea. Must she alienate him on Christmas Eve?? Isn't it a GOOD thing that children of divorce see and have good relationships with BOTH parents?
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This is funny. Gladys claims that she doesn't read here at this "cesspool of hate," but it seems that she reads every tabloid story that comes along, even the negative ones. She seems to know all of the "rumors" that appear. If she didn't read the hateful ones, she'd have to idea what to claim as being false and hateful. But she doesn't read here. Sure she doesn't!
Happy day to everyone on the veranda! I was looking at Kate's TL and it seems that the "haters" are still going at it with some of the most vile and cruel tweets. They can't give it a rest on Christmas Day. I don't understand why they can't get it through their heads when they do this that they are playing right into Kate's hands, making her appear as the victim of hatred. Oh, well...I guess it fulfills something within them that is lacking from their lives. It's sad, really, but whatever. I often wonder if they are like that in "real life," when they can't hide behind the mask of the internet and Twitter.
MERRY CHRISTMAS & HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO ALL!!!!!!
Merry Christmas!
What, no gushing Tweet about the kids SHRIEKING over their bestest ever presents?
Was that photo of Mady reading "The Night Before Christmas" from this year?
10 is a tad old to be read a story to, but of course Kate won't miss an opportunity to show off "the littles".
Ah, right on cue. Xmas photos of the kiddies in their pajamas broadcast for all the world to see.
I saw all of the cozy at home Christmas pictures. Is she trying to tell everyone that this happened last night on Christmas eve? The kids were with Jon. Kicker: Goodnight to all and to all a good night while one of the twins read the book, The Night before Christmas.
She would of had to do this Tuesday night or yesterday afternoon when it got dark and then they went to Jon's. She had to be already packed and ready to head out with Steve as soon as they left for Jon's.
She and Steve are on a beach somewhere right now.
C'mon, Tucker's Mom (#71), let's be reasonable. TFW has a career
to think about! What with the new specials, and her CA appearance.
She can't just relax and enjoy family time like the mediocre! Not
with 8 kids to pimp out -- er, I mean, feed and clothe. Those
flippety-leven (thanks for that new number, readerlady!) gifts
weren't just for the kids to enjoy -- they were for America's
enjoyment, too, as Sally Q. Sheeple gets to live the good life
vicariously through her idol's tweets.
Just think -- the kids will be at Jon's next week (allegedly), and
TFW will have the mine-all-mansion to herself. Then they'll be
back at school, and the media spotlight will be shining on her
for the whole month of January. I can just imagine TFW's
Grinch-y grin unfurling at the prospect. Blech.
She and Steve are on a beach somewhere right now.
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Something tells me that might not be unlikely.
Minimal decorations. No tree.
Blah.
Saw Kates pics. GEEZ, for a person who cries poor all the time, she sure bought expensive gifts for her kids.
An the worse thing Kate put on there: #Jesus is the reason for the season, if that is not a slam to what Christmas is all about I don't know what is. Translates: Kate is claiming that the reason her kids have gifts is cause of Jesus. What you showed Kate, in those pics and putting that hash tag, is commercialism at it's finest. What you showed has nothing to do with Jesus. Not even on the same planet! Kate, You're a HYPOCRITE to religion. A true believer in Jesus at Christmas, down plays the gift giving or has no gifts, they go to church and celebrate Jesus birth, they don't buy into the commercialism of gift giving. To put both on the same tweet,on twitter, a pic of your kids opening expensive gifts, then to hashtag: Jesus is the reason for the season is hypocritical. SHAME ON YOU!
Wait, next pics will be the Christmas Dinner Kate slaved over, all day to make. The tiny portions. She does need to get off twitter.
Oh boy. I doubt those boys will think the photos portray them in a flattering light, with their manly snowman pajamas. These kids need their privacy. Good grief.
Redbirdsings, think Jon had them Christmas Eve day and part of the evening. They went back to Kate's sometime last night and she's got them today. They will be at Jon's probably tomorrow through the rest of their vacation.
Why read "'Twas the Night Before Christmas" when they do not believe in Santa Claus?
TFW won't be going away while the kids are at Jon's. She waits
at home by the phone in case they call, remember?
I've got to wonder if the kids, particularly Mady and Cara, were aware their mother was going to post those pictures on Twitter. If I were a young teenage girl, I WOULD NOT want my picture out there with my face covered in zits and no makeup. I was very self-conscious about that kind of thing at that age. Maybe they don't care, but I find that unlikely.
Did you notice that the boys' Nerf guns were stuffed in a corner behind the picture of the two tup girls? So they got to pose with their gifts, then had to put them away apparently.
They will be at Jon's probably tomorrow through the rest of their vacation.
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That will be a long time at Jon's, but I hope it's true. Has he said that they will be with him for the rest of break? They don't go back until January 5.
"To put both on the same tweet,on twitter, a pic of your kids opening expensive gifts, then to hashtag: Jesus is the reason for the season is hypocritical. SHAME ON YOU!"
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It's not hypocritical to her! If you read the notes in Robert's book, it appears that she is (or was) into Prosperity Theology, so I guess HE blessed them with "stuff."
Redbirdsings -- it's possible that he had them yesterday and into the evening, and then returned them home where they read the poem before bed...so they could wake up Christmas morning at home. There would be nothing unusual about that. Makes sense.
Anyone else think she cut a deal with Mip, Nerf, and Razor?
https://twitter.com/Kateplusmy8/status/548195435190706176
localyocul said... 84
Anyone else think she cut a deal with Mip, Nerf, and Razor?
https://twitter.com/Kateplusmy8/status/548195435190706176
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Yep. It's ridiculous to broadcast what your kids got.
If I were a young teenage girl, I WOULD NOT want my picture out there with my face covered in zits and no makeup
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They posed for the pictures and if they know their mother, was aware that she would be putting them out there on Twitter. Apparently they didn't care, or just don't feel like fighting her about it.
TLC Stinks @81 - I agree with you completely. I hope that TFW is paying for a good dermatologist for the twins.
I wouldn't put her past her to lie to the children and tell them I promise these are just personal photos for me, not for twitter.
It would be an unusual child who would be happy to have their private pictures plastered to hundreds of thousands. Although maybe the selfie generation has caused kids to not be as embarrassed about such things as our generations have been.
They posed for the pictures and if they know their mother, was aware that she would be putting them out there on Twitter. Apparently they didn't care, or just don't feel like fighting her about it.
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This is what I don't get and it bothers me. 8 kids and they're all OK with having their photos of them in their jammies plastered on social media?
I can't imagine they haven't figured out that Kate uses them to get Twitter traffic and followers.
It just seems odd- perhaps they've no sense of boundaries due to being born into The Truman Show. At their ages, kids want privacy and avoid giving anyone a reason to pick on them at all costs.
The boys in their jammies? That's not going to go unnoticed at school. Same goes for being read a bedtime story.
Cute when they're 3, at 10, not so much.
It would be an unusual child who would be happy to have their private pictures plastered to hundreds of thousands.
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But these aren't "normal" kids. Wouldn't you think by now they accept this as one of those things that she does? What may be annoying and horrifying to many kids this age, it's "normal" for them.
But these aren't "normal" kids. Wouldn't you think by now they accept this as one of those things that she does? What may be annoying and horrifying to many kids this age, it's "normal" for them.
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I think that could very well be the case, and if so, they have serious boundary issues. It's not normal for a teen to not feel self conscious and embarrassed about themselves from time to time. The concern is this lack of boundaries could extend to other aspects of their life with serious consequences in the future, including relationships, substances, the law, etc.
I was wondering where Stephanie (and the other women) went...haven't heard from her in a long time, and Merry Christmas to me -- she showed up today, along with hot Filipino women, all 2.8 miles away.
The boys in their jammies? That's not going to go unnoticed at school. Same goes for being read a bedtime story.
Cute when they're 3, at 10, not so much.
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I wonder how many of their classmates look at Kate's Twitter account. I would hope that they have interests other than seeing what the Gosselins are doing at home.
I was wondering why Gladys and the sheeple haven't been hawking Kate's coupon site recently. I tried to find it, but can't seem to pull it up. Sorry if this was discussed, but did another one of her endeavors bite the dust?
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I don't see why we shouldn't take joy in making someone's day a little better. I imagine most of us probably do little kindness for friends and strangers often. It does lighten my heart to do so
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I couldn't agree more. The only time I think it would be inappropriate is if you were sharing to say hey look at me. Am I wonderful or what. Or if you mean to shame others for not doing the same. Still, that is for the person who is sharing to decide when they take inventory of their own heart.
Thank you to those who have shared already. I also have a story, except I was unaware I was making someones day. The other day I was at walmart and as I was putting the things from the cart to the belt, I told the cashier where my stuff began. I cracked a stupid joke and said "unless the lady in front of me wants to pay for my stuff also". We both laughed and she commented that she would love to do that some day but her funds are just too small. I told her not to worry about it I was just joking. I mentioned to her that I have never been married or had any kids, so every Christmas I would choose one of my family members and would help them make Christmas a good one for their kids. Both the woman and I shared how good it makes us feel when can help others.
I shared with her that one Christmas I bought five bikes for my sisters kids and how happy I felt. She said something along the line of I should believe in a higher power and that blessings come our way when we give to others. I told her that I do serve and believe in God and that I AM AND HAVE BEEN a blessed person. I shared that I took care of my dad until he passed away five yrs ago, and that he left me a home that was paid for. Then I joked again and told her that ever since I moved into my house, my dad died, I had to put my baby girl dog of 16 yrs"socks" down three months after my dad passed and six months after my girl, my little boy shadow got ran over. It was three days after Christmas.
About eight months later, the city water pipes broke and a river of water came down one and a half blocks, bypassing everyone's home turned left into my driveway, made it's way inside my garage, where all of my mom's belongings were stored and down my basement stairwell into my basement where my nephew and his wife were staying and had all their stuff there. About one year after that it happened again. One month after the second flood my kitchen caught on fire. The worst part is that my insurance ended and I was waiting to get mom's check to replace a railing on the deck. That was the reason I couldn't renew it. I had about one week to go for mom's check and the fire happened. My family and their friend pitched in with donations and cleaning. The important thing is that I got mom and my two dogs out. So I dare anyone to say I'm not blessed. lol
Now because this is so long already, I will have cut tons of details that would show you how even with all that, there were SOOOO many good things that happened. I REALLY felt that I would be doing a great dishonor to God, my family, friends and life by having a pity party instead of recognizing the good that came from it.
Oh my goodness, I took the scenic route to get to my point. Anyway, after telling the lady everything and how blessed I am, she thanked me for sharing and said that it made her day and that she was so happy that we met. I had no idea that telling her my story it would make her so happy. Go figure.
The moral of the story Mr. Peabody....NEVER BE AFRAID TO SHARE YOUR STORY'S. THEY MAY BE AN ACT OF KINDNESS. If it's coming from selfish place, you won't die. You just might not get as big of a warm fuzzy feeling inside compared to doing it with a pure heart.
NJGal51 said... 87
TLC Stinks @81 - I agree with you completely. I hope that TFW is paying for a good dermatologist for the twins.
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I have to disagree. Not everything the body goes through requires medical intervention. Teenage acne is normal and hormonal. She's barely a teen. I wouldn't be worried about this yet.
PJ
As far selfies are concerned, I think the key word is "self" -- if you've
taken the picture of yourself, you are in control. Your pose, your smile, your silly face, your mood, your moment to be captured.
Having your mother take the picture -- the woman who was also
kind enough to photograph your first bowel moment in the potty
for America to see -- completely changes the dynamic.
There are so many layers to this picture issue. I agree the kids
might just say, oh, whatever, this is what Mom does, and we're
used to it. But that feeling may change according to kid, and
gender, and personality, and -- most significantly -- age. The
twins at 14 are different life forms than they were at 4, when
these babies were born and the cameras descended. And the
tups (how I hate that word) are 10 1/2 now -- closer to 11 than 10. They're preteens. And what flew when they were toddlers, and
even little kids, may horrify them now. Yet from what we've seen,
I think they're very aware that their opinions don't matter -- especially the boys. TFW said it for all the world to hear -- she's in charge,
and that's never gonna change.
I agree the photos were wrong to share. ( when were these supposedly taken??) The boys' PJs were way too young a style for them, and the girls were ok but what was with Leah's tank top and Mady's short-shorts? It was unseasonably warm here too, but not warm enough for those! What a variety of outfits not meant for public view. Kate is trying to prove what fun the kids had in their PJs ripping gifts open and shrieking with joy. Not one real thought about the kids' privacy or comments they may be subjected to. I hope they had some private fun at Jon's.
Oh, I will bet Cara and Mady's classmates look at Kate's Twitter. So embarrassing.
Should be quiet on her Twitter this week, thank goodness.
Can't wait to see what touch up work she is probably having done. Wonder if she's in NYC at her doc's?
This is a good story.
http://www.npr.org/2014/12/19/371647099/norads-santa-tracker-began-with-a-typo-and-a-good-sport
I have to disagree. Not everything the body goes through requires medical intervention. Teenage acne is normal and hormonal. She's barely a teen. I wouldn't be worried about this yet.
PJ
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Cara looks to have cystic acne that absolutely requires medical intervention. Those aren't just tiny white heads. There are so many great acne meds on the market. She and Mady both have it but Cara's is much worse.
I haven't seen a real smile on Cara's face in a long while. I think she thought this was just for Mom. And maybe she was happy for her lovely jewelry she just opened.
I very much believe kids and parents at their school go thru Kate's TL. And the instagram that someone found is their friend that was at the birthday party and the Boston vacation.
It is EASY to follow that trail and in a few minutes see pics of both girls, being just teenage girls. I bet after that exposure, Kate is sending out a school wide email to make all LCDS make their acct private. (sarcasm) but you know she would like to try!
Those kids are so sheltered and awkward, the 10.5 boys don't think twice about their snowman jammies. At this age boys want foot teams emblazoned on their pj pants, or plaid. Certainly not a pj set.
As for the girls, Mady and Cara are dressed appropriate in hoodies and shorts and socks. That is what teen girls wear.
Sara B
Rhymes with Witch said... 101
This is a good story.
http://www.npr.org/2014/12/19/371647099/norads-santa-tracker-began-with-a-typo-and-a-good-sport
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True story: my dad was a career Air Force guy. Guess what one of his jobs was in the 60s? He was a radar operator for NORAD and on Christmas Eve he gave out the "Santa Report" every hour or so.
Oh, I will bet Cara and Mady's classmates look at Kate's Twitter. So embarrassing.
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I bet most of them don't. These kids have so much more on their minds than following Kate's TL...school events, boys, bands and idols, etc., and don't give a flying fig about Kate's hair extensions, Celebrity Apprentice, the haters vs. the sheeple and everything else that pops up on there. They just don't.
"The boys' PJs were way too young a style for them, and the girls were ok but what was with Leah's tank top and Mady's short-shorts?"
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It depends on how warm it is in the house. If she has the heat cranked up, I would believe that this is what they wear. My kids still love tanks and shorts to wear to bed in the dead of winter and our house isn't all that warm. Kids are strange like that! I would be cold, but they aren't.
I really don't find the "style" of the boys' pajamas too young for them. They were long sleeved tees with long tight-at-the-bottom cotton knit pants. Maybe that's what they like. They're comfortable, and it could be that the snowmen theme pajamas were purchased for the Christmas pictures. I stopped by to see a friend the other night and her 16 year-old son, a school athlete, was wearing a pair of pajama bottoms with Cookie Monster santas all over them. He also has a pair featuring the Grinch (or so he says).
That said, to post those photos on Twitter was just a continuation of invading their privacy. Why must she do this? Because the fans want to see them? Too bad...let them take pictures of them own kids at Christmas and stop ogling the Gosselins. It's just wrong.
Teenage acne is normal but treatable. There is no reason in this day and age for a teen to suffer from acne. She has insurance, so just take care of it. Geez. I feel bad for Cara and Mady looking like that in their PJs having that posted on Twitter. I don't like the way the kids were posed either. And where is the damn tree? Looks like they opened gifts in the kitchen then had to put them away after she took the pictures. Why can't she just let those kids cut loose and have a joyful, private Xmas.
PA Dutch Mom said... 104
That said, to post those photos on Twitter was just a continuation of invading their privacy. Why must she do this? Because the fans want to see them? Too bad...let them take pictures of them own kids at Christmas and stop ogling the Gosselins. It's just wrong.
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Exactly. Send the photos PRIVATELY to friends and family, not the entire twitter population. Oh that's right. There is no family. They're all swirling around in the black hole of Kate Gosselin outcasts.
And I'm wondering why, if she insists on sticking photos of the kids on her TL, she doesn't plaster pics of herself holding up HER presents? Probably because Santa Claus Kate treated herself to a whole lotta pricey gifts and she doesn't want to risk ruining the piecing and patching theme she's been peddling the last couple of years.
AuntieAnn (#106), bet you're right about why TFW doesn't post
pictures of herself with her gifts. Besides, how do you wrap
botox?
I hope TFW took her kids to get gifts for Jon. I mean, the
bird got a stocking -- I'd think their father would merit at least
as much attention.
It doesn't look like she decorated the house at all this year. Maybe because the kids are spending more of the holiday with Jon and she's going on a little vacation? I'm sure if she'd decorated we'd have seen some pictures because she always seems to be so proud of the half-assed job she does (basing this on how proud she seemed to be of herself for hanging Christmas stockings this year).
Sara B, I agree that with Instagram, Twitter and Facebook, anyone who is friends with the Gosselin girls know darn well what their mom posts. I hate to say it, but if those girls are not liked by a few of their peers, this stuff that Kate posts is pure gold, in addition to the shows. Kids these days do not live in a bubble.
NJGal, ITA. I think the Xmas stockings were it this year. Just so odd with the kids posed and no tree pictured. Not even a mention and she has in the past bitched about the tree and the lights.
TLC Stinks (#110), oh, yes, the lights! Remember when she put
out an APB for white lights for the tree? It looks like she skipped
it this year. No pictures, no proof, as the fans love to say. For
such a tradition-lovin' gal, that's an awfully big corner to cut.
If only the cameras had stuck around, we probably would've
seen one to rival the tree at Rockefeller Center -- as long as
TLC was footing the bill.
FlimsyFlamsy said... 107
Besides, how do you wrap botox?
I hope TFW took her kids to get gifts for Jon. I mean, the bird got a stocking -- I'd think their father would merit at least as much attention.
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Maybe she has that paralyzed surpirse look again with a fresh botox treatment - if indeed she got one. I hope she looks like Tim Allen in Christmas with the Kranks, after he got his botox injections. lol!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytOmtx9I8OQ
And yes, I wonder how she handles shopping for gifts for their dad. I just can't see her cold heart melting enough to take them with her to do that. That's probably a job delegated to the not-a-nanny.
Sara B said... 102
I have to disagree. Not everything the body goes through requires medical intervention. Teenage acne is normal and hormonal. She's barely a teen. I wouldn't be worried about this yet.
PJ
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Cara looks to have cystic acne that absolutely requires medical intervention. Those aren't just tiny white heads. There are so many great acne meds on the market. She and Mady both have it but Cara's is much worse.
I haven't seen a real smile on Cara's face in a long while. I think she thought this was just for Mom. And maybe she was happy for her lovely jewelry she just opened.
I very much believe kids and parents at their school go thru Kate's TL. And the instagram that someone found is their friend that was at the birthday party and the Boston vacation.
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Which account? One was cnnggg.14 (Cara Nicole Gosselin age 14) and one was Caramadygosselin . Why would M's friend do that? Or are you someone tooks the pics from the friends accounts to make a fake account?
With regards to posting pics online, my kids are in a fun bad photo "war" with their cousins and second cousins. It's boys versus girls and they are hunting for the least flattering pics and posting them on twitter.
Didn't TFW say that all the kids would have braces by last August? Yet the only one who appears to have them is Cara. Alexis, Leah, and the boys definitely need them. Of course, TFW is holding out, hoping to get TLC to pay for them. She won't spend a dime on those kids if she thinks she can get someone else to do it.She probably has insurance, but most insurance has a family limit. She may have to pay for a few sets of braces out-of-pocket. I think she will let the kids go without if that is the case.
I agree that Cara and Mady need to see a dermatologist. One of my sons had bad acne like that, and was prescribed antibiotics. The doctor said that acne causes infection under the skin, and the infection must be treated in order to get rid of it. The antibiotics cleared it right up, and he never had it again. Perhaps TFW is hoping to pimp her girls out to do ads for Proactiv. I wouldn't put it past her.
Because of what went on with Aaden and his glasses, I absolutely do not put it past her to hold off of treatments for her kids in order to have TLC foot the bill, whether it's braces or the dermatologist.
She grifted and just did a shout out:
Wishing a very Merry Christmas& a BIG thankyou 2 r friends @peaceloveworld
We all,including Zorro,❤️d our surprises! pic.twitter.com/7nHiDaKysc
I bet anything peaceloveworkd provided the kids' clothing for filming.
njay said... 95
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Sometimes a chance encounter and sharing a story can make someone's day a little brighter. Thanks for sharing your story.
Another good story.
http://www.boston.com/travel/2014/12/23/santa-lands-his-reindeer-logan-bound-plane/2GnjZl1J8dsBMPTw8GYYQJ/story.html?p1=well_Culture_subheadline_hp
That company Peace Love world has given them a lot of stuff over the years.
#proudofmyson My son was Xmas shopping and asked a woman working in a booth in the mall where Godiva's was. She told him, and mentioned once she had been given some white chocolate from there but never had any since, as it's expensive. My son went back after he shopped with a small bar of white chocolate he bought for her.(He does not make a ton of money either) She was so happy! Not earth-shattering, but nice of him :)
PeaceLove whatever must love reality shows: Why don't they donate some stuff to needy people (maybe they do)?
Leah Remini @LeahRemini Dec 24
This is me attempting to take a selfie! And thank @peaceloveworld for my pj's! Love!! And sending u… http://instagram.com/p/xAlQqgNQS1/
Because of what went on with Aaden and his glasses, I absolutely do not put it past her to hold off of treatments for her kids in order to have TLC foot the bill, whether it's braces or the dermatologist.
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Then those boys will have a long wait if they have to postpone orthodontic work until the next series of specials, if that ever happens. We don't know why they aren't getting treatment right now. It could be because of jaw development, teeth alignment issues, or a step-by-step approach. It could very well be that they all have visited the ortho to be assessed and she's doing as they advised.
I can't see those girls agreeing to being filmed at a dermatologist because of acne problems. Kate would get hammered unmercifully in the media for allowing that to be filmed, and that's the only way that TLC would foot the bill.
This is actually the creator of the design, linked from the company's twitter: @peacelovealina
Formerly Duped said... 121 ---------
Very SWEET of your son!
I notice that nearly all of the fans who are crying, unable to breathe because of excitement, claiming that the series of specials is the best thing that ever happened in their lives are kids...teens and maybe a few young twenty-somethings. Why is that? There are a few adults thrown in there, but for the most part, these are just giddy teens. Their timelines reflect their immaturity. That's okay because we all were there once ourselves. I just wonder why the few adult sheeple, such as Gladys, Barb, Sandie, Carlene (oh, geez), PhD minus the D, UGGS, seem to stick with her. Could it be that most intelligent adults who are parents are finally seeing the light and deflecting the flock?
Layla 115- I believe Cara, Mady, and Hannah got braces. Not sure about the rest, but correct me if I am wrong. I am sure the boys are far down on the totem pole, when at least 1 or 2 of them need braces, but girls first with Kate.
I do doubt TLC will pay for braces, as this is on ongoing process, often for an extended time, and will not commit to braces. Glasses yes.
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 2h2 hours ago
Wishing a very Merry Christmas& a BIG thankyou 2 r friends @peaceloveworld
We all,including Zorro,❤️d our surprises!
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She put that bird down a kid's back. Good grief. What does our resident bird lady of the veranda have to say about this? I can't believe Zorro is still alive.
That online Peace love world, their clothing is very expensive, even at sale price. The clothes are around $80 +, on sale $65. Kate has expensive taste. The clothes they show I would not spend that much for a hoody or t-shirt.
Prairiemary- Giving to those in need does bring joy and happiness on both ends. I regularly participate in Toys for Tots and help deliver gifts, and my heart is always filled with the joy the kids express. So feel proud that your donations bring joy to the recipient as well as yourself. It's all good.
FlimsyFlamsy said... 111
TLC Stinks (#110), oh, yes, the lights! Remember when she put
out an APB for white lights for the tree? It looks like she skipped
it this year. No pictures, no proof, as the fans love to say. For
such a tradition-lovin' gal, that's an awfully big corner to cut.
If only the cameras had stuck around, we probably would've
seen one to rival the tree at Rockefeller Center -- as long as
TLC was footing the bill.
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I agree. Showing pictures of stockings hung, and not of their tree is odd at best. I think she is far too lazy to put a tree up for her kids. And is strange that she does not make this effort for her money makers.
"Can't Do" Kate. What does she do all day long?
FlimsyFlamsy said... 97
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So true.
I agree. Showing pictures of stockings hung, and not of their tree is odd at best. I think she is far too lazy to put a tree up for her kids. And is strange that she does not make this effort for her money makers.
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Maybe she did put one up,. but because of all the flack she took with the last poorly-decorated one, she decided not to subject herself to that again! That tree was a disaster. I could have done a better job if I were completely sloshed.
I'm surprised that the sheep haven't begged her to post a picture of it. You know they've never seen trees before.
The clothes are around $80 +, on sale $65. Kate has expensive taste. The clothes they show I would not spend that much for a hoody or t-shirt.
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Generally, yes, they are expensive. You just have to watch their sales. I got some World Peace shirts for kids there at 65 percent off. I think they were $12 a shirt, not too bad considering I have paid more than that at Kohl's and JC Penney.
I bet, though, that Kate didn't pay for anything she got from them.
Another good story. I usually don't like watching videos, but this one is worth seeing.
http://www.people.com/article/homeless-man-one-hundred-dollars
She could have put up a small tree in the kitchen keeping room but did not show it because she wants everyone to think she does everything over-the-top for her kids. I really don't believe, though, there was a tree. How can the kids be excited when she spoils the fun for them? No mention of attending church either. "Tis the season for Jesus" indeed!
Fleecing The Sheeple said... 134
I agree. Showing pictures of stockings hung, and not of their tree is odd at best. I think she is far too lazy to put a tree up for her kids. And is strange that she does not make this effort for her money makers.
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Maybe she did put one up,. but because of all the flack she took with the last poorly-decorated one, she decided not to subject herself to that again! That tree was a disaster. I could have done a better job if I were completely sloshed.
I'm surprised that the sheep haven't begged her to post a picture of it. You know they've never seen trees before.
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What qualifies a Christmas tree as a "disaster?" If people enjoy their Christmas tree, isn't that all that matters? What difference does it make if you thought it was over-decorated or under-decorated, disapproved of the ornaments, etc.? If you decorate your tree in order to impress others, that's just sad.
I've been away visiting family for Christmas, and didn't have an opportunity to wish everyone a Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays! Hope everyone had a wonderful Holiday.
Just catching up of the Gosselin stuff and really don't have anything to say that hasn't already been mentioned.
I did discover that CA has a youtube channel and they have posted several videos relevant to their new season. So far they have posted several promos, but none of them are about Kate. They have had promos that include Brandi, Kenya, Geraldo, Ian, Gilbert, Kevin, Jamie, Shawn, Sig, Vivica, & Terrell.
So it doesn't seem that they think (like Milo) that Kate is the big draw. They'll probably throw in some promo including her just before the first air date.
Forgot to post the link to the CA youtube channel:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdaXK2HDTAlcNlyLLmNCJ4g
Who is this crazy Organics tweeter who has posted enlarged pictures on her TL of Cara's face and Mady's legs? Is this the Moo poster? I can see calling out Kate on things, but to humiliate two teenage girls like that is mean-spirited and cruel. What kind of an ogre (or ogress, if female) would do this?
Over And Out said... 141
Who is this crazy Organics tweeter who has posted enlarged pictures on her TL of Cara's face and Mady's legs? Is this the Moo poster? I can see calling out Kate on things, but to humiliate two teenage girls like that is mean-spirited and cruel. What kind of an ogre (or ogress, if female) would do this?
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Yes, I think it's the CowsbytheRiver person. Same MO. Jerk
OH no, is this TFW crying at the beginning of Ian's clip?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HT9P6sigQAo
Local, I think it's so cool that your father tracked Santa.
Katie is an arse, just in case anyone wonders how I feel.
http://www.celebdirtylaundry.com/2014/the-celebrity-apprentice-2015-final-four-brandi-glanville-knocks-out-kate-gosselin-for-spot/?utm_source=feedburne
TLC stinks: Don't forget, Kate has not plaster pics of the Christmas dinner either. No tree, no dinner, the kids lack of excitement, hardly any christmas decor, except the stockings , which could have been an old pic. No bragging this year of her organized xmas. No pics of the dog getting it's present. I too think Kate got lazy, and is getting ready for a media tour. Too much to do.
Willing to bet TFW did not put up a tree out of concern for the bird.
Too bad Kate only thinks of herself. How awful that her older children are being made fun of for something that nearly everyone goes through In life and has no control over. She is the most disgusting poor excuse of a mother that I have seen in a long time. Most parents protect their children and for her to set them up where hateful adults are making them the butt of jokes is reprehensible.
Rhymes with Witch said... 144
Local, I think it's so cool that your father tracked Santa.
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Thanks! It was a family story long before the internet and Santa Tracker came along!
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While I have to agree with this, there would be nothing for that Cows person to bully if their own "mother" didn't put it out there.
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Milo apparently views herself as an alterego to TFW? Interchangeable with TFW???
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So which is worse, a person who criticizes physical appearance of reality tv teens or a Mother who puts her children back on low budget tv during their awkward years rather than getting a job? No protection or buffer for these children. Agents, PR, attorneys. ..no advocates. Even that doesn't stop the cruelty of social media.
While I have to agree with this, there would be nothing for that Cows person to bully if their own "mother" didn't put it out there.
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Yes, but there is absolutely no reason to blow up a photo and criticize the legs of a young teenage girl, even if Kate did put the pictures out there. You'd be better than that and not run with it, respecting their privacy even if Kate didn't.
No tree, no dinner, the kids lack of excitement, hardly any christmas decor, except the stockings , which could have been an old pic.
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It was a new picture. If you look at the one she took last year, this year's photo was missing the trees on the mantel.
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While I have to agree with this, there would be nothing for that Cows person to bully if their own "mother" didn't put it out there.
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Yes, but there is absolutely no reason to blow up a photo and criticize the legs of a young teenage girl, even if Kate did put the pictures out there. You'd be better than that and not run with it, respecting their privacy even if Kate didn't
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Oh yes absolutely!! It was horrible
What qualifies a Christmas tree as a "disaster?" If people enjoy their Christmas tree, isn't that all that matters? What difference does it make if you thought it was over-decorated or under-decorated, disapproved of the ornaments, etc.? If you decorate your tree in order to impress others, that's just sad.
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There was a reason for her to post a photo of the tree, and that would have been to impress others. She put it out there to show that she did all the work, it's a gorgeous tree, decorated to perfection, etc. etc. If she didn't want to be criticized, then don't tweet a picture of it. I don't care if it's a Charlie Brown tree and pathetic and if you like it, fine. That's all that matters. Our tree is decorated with popsicle stick ornaments, paper reindeer missing their antlers, bells that have been glued together, mostly things the kids have made. A decorator would think that it really is a sad tree, but it's our tree, complete with large colored lights (think Christmas Story). But I don't tweet pictures of it. She did it with the expectation of sheeple adulation...single, exhausted mom still manages to put together a gorgeous tree. If you do that, then yes, the tree is going to get scrutinized. You don't want negative comments, you don't put it out there.
Wasn't she grifting for white lights?
If Moo is showing pictures of M and C like that, Kate needs to get off her a*double*s and do something about it and get Moo suspended. She put me through Yell and back. It has started back again and I have warned Moo, keep it up because I will press charges this time. And I am serious, I contacted the FBI. M and C are minors and Moo can not do this. It is not free speech, it is against the law. Kate needs to be a mother and protect her kids! She needs to file a police report about the pictures and let them handle it. Can't believe TFM is not doing anything about it.
Twitter needs to have a better way to get a new account especially if it is from the same IP address.
Fired Up 4 Kate
@MiloandJack
@Kateplusmy8 It's one thing 4critics 2bully Kate or me...but its entirely unacceptable 2demean & bully Kate's kids! #DeplorableLowLifes :(
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Does Milo ever stop to think that if Kate stopped putting her kids lives out there on social media, there would be no reason for people to criticize them?
I noticed how she also included herself as being bullied by "Kate's critics". So she is comparing herself to Kate, and to her they are in the same boat.
But she doesn't block the critics. She seems to seek them out just so she has a reason to defend Kate and also to whine when she is attacked. She seems to dwell on the controversy, and always manages to mention it and plays on it.
Poor Kate--Poor Milo. Milo seems to thrive on what the "critics" say. She doesn't block them because then she couldn't stand up for her beloved queen Kate.
What would Milo do if no one ever said anything negative about Kate? She thrives on that negative in her ongoing defense of her queen.
If something happened to Kate and Jon got custody of the kids, I guarantee you he would do some kind of reality tv show with them. His excuse would be that the money Kate left is all tied up in trusts and he has to support them somehow. He really is just as bad as she is but he's got a nicer personality and has learned to say what the public wants to hear, so he's more likeable.
I'm a long time poster on this site, not a sheeple, I think they are both terrible parents and those kids are going to be so messed up. EVERY dime that man has should be used fighting to get those kids away from her and he has clearly given up and given in.
Elle O'Elle @NotJenD 2m2 minutes ago
@All433 @HandToForehead @Kateplusmy8 nothing would surprise me anymore w these people. Robert claims he knows who Milo is & we'd be shocked
Really? When and where was this?
OT, but another good story. Look at her face!
http://www.cosmopolitan.com/lifestyle/news/a34671/this-17-year-old-was-pulled-over-by-a-cop/
I noticed how she also included herself as being bullied by "Kate's critics". So she is comparing herself to Kate, and to her they are in the same boat.
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Yes. She loves to play martyr/victim. She lives vicariously through Kate. Scary, huh?
I was looking at Kate's TL. Did Gladys tweet that photo of the dogs in pantyhose to Kate and the kids? OMG, that is so creepy. Did she take the picture of the young girl in short shorts in the woods (from the back). Ditto on creepy. She's really weird.
Kate's Christmas tree *was* a disaster. It was only half decorated, lights missing. If you must tweet it, then finish decorating the darn thing, for gosh sakes, and then post the photo. Sheesh!
She put me through Yell and back. It has started back again and I have warned Moo, keep it up because I will press charges this time. And I am serious, I contacted the FBI.
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Do you have any idea why she/he/it is always after you? What kind of vendetta is that, and why did the person stalk you? Were you engaged in some kind of dispute at one time?
It that's a personal question and you don't want to answer, I understand. It's just so weird.
" If people enjoy their Christmas tree, isn't that all that matters?
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It is all that matters. But people who plaster it to 100,000 plus followers really aren't usually doing it because that's all that matters. Theyr'e usually seeking some kind of validation or adoration, and if you do that the public has every right to criticize it, especially if what you're "selling" to the public is your home life. I really don't care what a public figure's xmas tree looks like but I'm not going to get bent out of shape if someone else does.
Don't forget, Kate has not plaster pics of the Christmas dinner either. No tree, no dinner, the kids lack of excitement, hardly any christmas decor, except the stockings , which could have been an old pic. No bragging this year of her organized xmas
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But isn't that a good thing?
Gladys tweeted about "Kate and me." Isn't that on the list of
symptoms for Celebrity Worship Syndrome -- identifying with
the person? Make no mistake -- she loves the negative
attention every bit as much as her idol. One may argue TFW
stays on Twitter because she needs to keep up her public
persona. But why on earth is Gladys still there if it's such
a drag?
Reader, then she should keep the bird in its cage while the tree is up. It is kind of gross to let the bird loose in the kitchen anyway.
It's horrible that someone would make fun of the twins, but there you have it because of their mother! As a parent, I would not advertise my children's vulnerabilities so they would be embarrassed by cruelty. Sometimes I wonder if Kate has no feelings of empathy, and if that is the case, those kids have got to be totally messed up by now. No wonder Cara is shy and Mady aims to please.
Sleepless, it WAS a good thing until she posted those posed pictures of the kids.
No bragging this year of her organized xmas
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But isn't that a good thing? 164
Of course it is. I'm guessing that the point was that her "silence" is completely out of character.
As for.the pictures of the children - she is despicable.
I think she had them open gifts before going to Jon's and she has taken other pictures to randomly tweet over the next week to post on twitter to give everyone the impression she is slaving and exhaustedish with having 8 kids all by herself ALL day over break.....they are really with Jon....and she is away at a beach and spa with rat claws
I don't post on twitter at all, never will. But I do comment here as TFW continues to require these kids to film, after the divorce and 8 years later. I feel free to say that the majority of the kids do NOT seem happy to be filming at all. And it should stop. She is making a fool of herself.
As has been discussed a million time, don't care what she does on her own, but it is pretty clear most of the kids are not interested in filming and showing signs of same. The posted videos of her upcoming series clearly show that these kids have no respect for her, or are now mute. Why she chooses to continue filming with kids not interested any longer, and who are acting out, does not make her a great mother. TFW even admitted that 90% of people do not like her on DWTS and I feel comfortable voicing my opinions here.
It's not as if TFW really gives a crap about her twitter, as that makes her more of "victim" in her mind. Never mind the non-stop twitter bots.
I think the whole situation is very sad for the kids, who have no say in filming. Even though TFW insists they are want to film, not buying it, as the kids' behavior while filming says it all. I am sure the kids have no option not to film, as TFW makes it impossible for them not to film, using monetary issues. Very sad for the kids. SIIS
So RH knows who Milo is? Robert also claimed something about the kids' expulsion and the summer after it was going to be revealed ( not by him due to a promise) soon after his book came out. With RH you never know what will actually happen and when.
Wowser, it did not occur to me that she pretended it was Xmas morning. Could be. Something was off with those pictures. I just kind of assumed when Jon said he'd have the kids Xmas Eve, it meant that night rather than during the day. Anyway, she gave them the Nerf guns Jon said the boys wanted. Don't know if that was in agreement with him or not. I truly don't put anything past her. And I know she lied when someone tweeted where was Cara in the storytelling picture (in her bed).
Sleepless, this Moo came here on our veranda and read my posts and thinks she has figured out who Milo is. It thinks it is me. I can guarantee it is not me. I am not Milo. Moo went on google images and got a picture of a elderly lady in a Nhome and claimed she was me. It got pictures off my FB of my kids when they were minors and plastered them.
Then it went on a rant for days calling me a Christian hypocrite, my long winded stories, my fondness of Andy Griffith show, saying that I had MRSA, how messed up I was, calling me all sorts of things. I have never had anything to do with Moo, didn't know it existed until someone tweeted me to let me know.
Now, Moo is Organics2014 and it read about my money in my Sucret box getting stolen, it has made fun of that too. It sent out a tweet saying, I think I need a Sucret. Calling me a religious hypocrite, but I just went and read on tweet tunnel and she was rebuking the flu in Jesus's name. I hadn't even read the tweets about M and C and I was horrified for M and C. Kate needs to get off her a *double* s and get this person suspended and anything else she can do to stop this idiot.
Is it possible that kate is Milo AND Moo? That would be interesting. She doesn't block Milo and Moo. That right there is very telling. Moo criticizes kate a lot, so is this a way to make people think that she really has some nuts on twitter bashing her to get sympathy?
Also, on that clip of TFW "crying" on Ian's video, that gymnast was smiling at her and right before TFW dabs her eye, the hanky was getting close, you can see that she actually was smiling and then dab, and it looked like she was crying, but there was no tears.
Strange it said on tweet tunnel, cowsbytheriver was suspended. Now it says protected account. Then I looked up organics2014 and it said no tweets, I tried 2 more times then the tweets finally pulled up.
I looked at the photos again and Cara has bubble wrap all over her legs even though the gift she has opened is a book.. Was she cold, or knew TFW was taking a picture and she didn't want her legs shown all over Twitter? Poor kids.
TLC stinks said...167
No wonder Cara is shy and Mady aims to please.
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This is called survival. Cara is zoned out, Mady is the pleaser. The boys have each other and the chickens. 2 of the younger girls gang up against Alexis, because TFW has taught the girls to do this. TFW will regret molding her children like this. The day is coming when she finally cracks. I have a feeling when she finally cracks, they won't be no going back for a while at least.
I just hope Jon is prepared to tell Steve to hit the road and never come back and love on his kids like never, ever before!
Yes, in the Mady- reading picture the kids seem to be wearing the same PJs they had in the present-opening photos. It looks dark out. If Jon had the kids for Xmas Eve, I do believe these photos are a fake timeline.
However, maybe they wore the PJs to Jon's and then home again? Who knows. I know my divorced friends have a 'little' Christmas on the occasions where their ex's have the children for actual holidays.
Sleepless, it WAS a good thing until she posted those posed pictures of the kids.
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Posed pictures...that's a good point! I always took vid an pics of my kid unwrapping presents not posed with them. I did that only occasionally to send to whomever bought the present if it wasn't from me errrr Santa
Sleepless In Seattle said... 164
Don't forget, Kate has not plaster pics of the Christmas dinner either. No tree, no dinner, the kids lack of excitement, hardly any christmas decor, except the stockings , which could have been an old pic. No bragging this year of her organized xmas
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Yes and no. A photo of her tree in no way violates the kids' privacy. Same for her shitcraptastic food.
It's fun to have a good laugh at her tree, because you know she thinks it's the bomb. I don't believe for a moment that she didn't post a photo because she thought everyone would make fun of it.
That would never occur to her- in her mind, it's straight out of Macy's Trim-A-Tree.
What she DID post is disturbing and amounts to Kate keeping up her end of the bargain, posting thank you's and photos of all the things she grifted for her kids.
Nothing has changed since the kids were toddlers and she would tell companies that she'd use her kids as billboards/race cars/visors and advertise for freebies.
These Christmas photos are just wrong. You don't telegraph photos of your kids in their pajamas, girls in undershirts (which is just fine to wear, I don't care), your tween daughter in a clingy tank with her bra straps showing.
FTR, I don't think Kate bothered to put up a tree this year, but I'm sure Jon has.
I hope one day, when Kate makes the kids pose with their freebies to market the goodies she grifts for them, that they refuse. I wonder if those kids will develop a moral compass that tells them what she's done all these years, is wrong, and that they have more "stuff" than they could ever wish for, and that's it's so unfair that they get showered with gifts when other children are far more deserving.
They just didn't have the fortune of fertility drugs.
I looked at the photos again and Cara has bubble wrap all over her legs even though the gift she has opened is a book..
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Maybe the gift she opened prior to the book was bubble-wrapped and she (or one of the kids) put it around her legs just for a joke, and then she left it there when she opened the gift with the book.
I sometimes think so much of this is "over thought" just a tad too much! LOL!
Is it possible that kate is Milo AND Moo? That would be interesting. She doesn't block Milo and Moo. That right there is very telling. Moo criticizes kate a lot, so is this a way to make people think that she really has some nuts on twitter bashing her to get sympathy?
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Kate couldn't pull off one other sock, let alone two, and no matter what Kate is, she would never post those photos of Cara and Mady (acne and legs) on her timeline. If she got found out, she'd be battered in the media and hung out to dry. It's not worth taking the chance.
redbirdsings...but why has the Moo person singled you out to target in rants? Oh well, I guess it takes all kinds...
Yes, I noticed the bubble wrap on Cara's legs,too. I think there was no tree; Kate explained to them there will be a tree at their father's. I do not believe the pictures were taken Xmas morning either. If you recall on her photo of the cookie containers, there are presents in the background. I think she put up stockings on that kitchen keeping room fireplace and put the presents in that room. Period. If there was any whining about not having a tree, she probably told them to wait and see one at their dad's. She did not care because she was going out of town.
But why on earth is Gladys still there if it's such
a drag?
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She's in love. It's the only way to stay connected to the one and only who lights up her life.
The other thing that really bothers me, and speaks to the G kids growing up with skewed morals, is that Kate's idea of thanking them is tweeting about the freebies, mentioning them and showing photos of them.
Have those kids ever written a thank you for anything they've been given?
I'm thinking no.
Maybe Kate had her tree up when they did all of that filming this fall, and then got tired of looking at it for so long, and took it down?
I looked at the Kate plus 8 FB page. The latest post is the pictures of the kids on Christmas that Kate tweeted.
Last year, she didn't post any Christmas pictures of the kids with their presents. She posted one picture of Shoka, and then a picture of Mady reading "The Night Before Christmas".
So, I wonder if part of the reason she posted those pictures is because TLC told her to, so that they would have something to post on their FB account to promote the new episodes.
Have those kids ever written a thank you for anything they've been given?
I'm thinking no. 185
I just have to add - has Katie ever written a thank you note or personally thanked anyone except on twitter?
The things she is teaching these children will not serve them well.
Midnight Madness, I was so blindsided by this Moo thing. It reads here and I have mentioned that I live in a Nhome and we have talked about Milo living in a Nhome or assisted living facility. So it thinks it is the new Columbo and figured out that I am Milo, but it IS NOT TRUE!
The day is coming that Moo will tweet the wrong thing to a person who will not like it and retaliate. I have already warned Moo if it keeps up, charges will be pressed. I was just horribly upset the first round and I started getting my strength up to fight back and now I am angry, very angry for putting my kids pictures when they were kids, calling me all kinds of names and saying all the horrible stuff about someone she doesn't even know.
That is why I don't understand why Kate won't do anything about it. But, I don't know, she maybe trying. If Kate won't, Jon should take the wheel.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 2h2 hours ago
@helen41079 @Kateplusmy8 IDK..it was a beautiful sight..I quickly took the pic! Did not notice til later that there were actually 2of them.
This is one of the funniest things I have read to come out of Gladys. Remember the photo she sent to Kate and the kids of the mating butterflies? The sheeple Helen wanted to know what was wrong with the picture (that in itself is funny). Milo responded with the above tweet. It was as clear as the nose on her face. There were TWO butterflies! What in the name of heaven did she think it was? A mutated two-headed butterfly? She took the photo and couldn't see two butterflies?
She hasn't said beans about the dogs in pantyhose photo, though. I guess she didn't notice that these were women's hose and shoes and not doggy pajamas!
I need a drink. Is it too early?
Re: 188
Tucker's i just want to add that i realize that you already addressed the point i made. I thought it was worth re emphasizing because it is so egregious.
I was reading over at the Files page. Who is Jojo, how is he connected to BV and why is he at war with BV's attorney? I can't figure any of it out. I'm not on twitter. Does anyone here know the answer?
Rhymes with Witch said... 190
Re: 188
Tucker's i just want to add that i realize that you already addressed the point i made. I thought it was worth re emphasizing because it is so egregious.
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No problem!
OT- more British tv watching, and I recommend Scott & Bailey (sort of like Cagney and Lacey).
I think I already mentioned The Escape Artist- also very good.
I looked back at Milo's tweets and found this one, which I haven't seen posted here. It just shows how much she has ingrained herself into Kate's life.
Fired Up 4 Kate
@MiloandJack @deannatweeting This year is almost done....& I'm missing my #Deanna sarcasm/wit and fun! :)
9:53 AM - 22 Dec 2014
"MY" Deanna? Really, Milo?
She seems to think that she is part of Kate's family and that Kate's friends are now her friends. She started with Deanna and it has now escalated to Jamie. She seems to live her life through Kate. How sad is that?
It will be interesting to see if one of the TLC specials covers their Xmas. Yes, it is possible they did a fake Xmas before (TLC provided decorated tree). All I know for sure is that she pictured them opening gifts in the kitchen.
OT- more British tv watching, and I recommend Scott & Bailey (sort of like Cagney and Lacey).
I think I already mentioned The Escape Artist- also very good. 192
Channel please? I love British tv.
Rhymes with Witch said... 195
OT- more British tv watching, and I recommend Scott & Bailey (sort of like Cagney and Lacey).
I think I already mentioned The Escape Artist- also very good. 192
Channel please? I love British tv.
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Oops, sorry- I'm streaming them from Amazon.
OT to the dog people.
Too is my forth dog and she mystifies me .
When I let her out (fenced yard) she is more interested in patrolling the perimeter and "protecting" us from the neighbors than in doing her business. She has a ferocious bark but has never snapped at or tried to bite anyone. She makes friends easily when actually meeting someone.
I like the feeling of protection but she will come to the door to be let in w/out doing her business. I mean multiple times out over HOURS. ?????
Unique dog behavior in my experience.
P.s. on my OT.
She gets Innova kibble in the morning and kibble and canned Blue Wilderness in the pm. She drinks plenty of water.
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